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Wednesday Morning Rant
There was a spectacular new example of this from a couple of weeks ago. The Wall Street Journal ran an article about one of the favorite topics of business experts. The article's title doesn't leave much to the imagination: Diversity Was Supposed to Make Us Rich. Not So Much. The new "DEI" push - in hiring, in production, in investing, etc. - accelerated rapidly in 2015 when those paragons of business consulting over at McKinsey published their findings regarding "diversity" and profitability. The WSJ dutifully covered it.
As the Journal so bluntly puts it in the new article, the problem is the same as everywhere else in academia: the study was bad and non-reproducible:Since 2015, the approach has been tested in the fire of the marketplace and failed. Academics have tried to repeat McKinsey's findings and failed, concluding that there is in fact no link between profitability and executive diversity. And the methodology of McKinsey's early studies, which helped create the widespread belief that diversity is good for profits, is being questioned.Well gee whiz. Knock me over with a feather. The greater piece of amazement for me, however, is this little tidbit from later in the article when it goes into McKinsey's ongoing defense of its work and additional objections to it from the rough terrain of the real world:
Even the correlation is in doubt. Academics can't replicate McKinsey's study precisely, because it keeps secret the names of the companies it used.Real scientific, guys. Keeping your data secret is the primary indicator of good scientific process, right? This is what they do in "climate science," so I guess it's okay. But the purpose, of course, was not to tell the truth but to move the goalposts. The McKinsey
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:00 AM (GBKbO)
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I have called the others.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 10, 2024 11:00 AM (O7YUW)
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Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2024 11:01 AM (Ni+U3)
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This is disgustingly typical, and people like Nichols still wonder why normals increasingly reject the expert class.
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I propose that all use of the word "expert" be banned, that the word be purged from the English language, and that its use should be punishable by being poked hard with a pointy stick for several minutes.
In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
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I propose that all use of the word "expert" be banned, that the word be purged from the English language, and that its use should be punishable by being poked hard with a pointy stick for several minutes.
In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (O7YUW)
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You mean hiring a bunch of talentless hacks based on their skin color or weird sexual perversions doesn't result in a better product?
Someone should inform Disney.
Someone should inform Disney.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:03 AM (hY4dx)
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When everyone's an expert, nobody is.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 11:04 AM (Q4IgG)
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Have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by: Boeing at July 10, 2024 11:04 AM (2UnvF)
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Experts agree that experts should not be subjected to scrutiny.
Experts agree that experts should not be subjected to scrutiny.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 10, 2024 11:04 AM (RKVpM)
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Top 10?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:05 AM (J2vNu)
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Yeah, people who are consistently wrong should be ignored!
Posted by: Weather Forecasters at July 10, 2024 11:05 AM (2UnvF)
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"This is disgustingly typical, and people like Nichols still wonder why normals increasingly reject the expert class."
I wonder who, who wrote the Book of Love?
I wonder who, who wrote the Book of Love?
Posted by: BignJames at July 10, 2024 11:06 AM (AwYPR)
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In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Their percentage would be less than most major leaguer batting averages (for pitchers no less).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Their percentage would be less than most major leaguer batting averages (for pitchers no less).
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:06 AM (mIs2x)
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Peel off the skin of a gleaming expert and you'll always find the rancid entrails of a sad partisan hack
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:06 AM (iFTx/)
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Have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by: Boeing at July 10, 2024 11:04 AM (2UnvF)
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You sold your soul to keeping your stock price inflated. Heck, you probably bought people to front run trades on your stock in order to keep the price artificially high.
Posted by: Boeing at July 10, 2024 11:04 AM (2UnvF)
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You sold your soul to keeping your stock price inflated. Heck, you probably bought people to front run trades on your stock in order to keep the price artificially high.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2024 11:06 AM (tT6L1)
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High INT, low WIS. Ranks in Linguistics and Knowledge (Nobility), nothing in Survival or even Perception.
Posted by: pookysgirl can spot a TPK at July 10, 2024 11:06 AM (wDRTj)
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You mean hiring a bunch of talentless hacks based on their skin color or weird sexual perversions doesn't result in a better product?
Someone should inform Disney.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:03 AM (hY4dx)
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At absolute *best,* this is a case of inverted causality.
Let's assume - for no reason other than argument - that McKinsey's findings were accurate and that companies with "more diverse" executive ranks were more profitable. That is a correlation, not a causation - at least, not without more evidence. Were they more profitable *because* they were more diverse, or was it the other way around and they were more diverse because they were more profitable and operated in more markets, more regions, etc.? Or was it neither, and it was merely coincidence and that "diversity" and "profitability" are in fact uncorrelated? Coincidental apparent correlation happens all the time.
But McKinsey asserted causation, didn't support it, and then happily went along with using that asserted causation has a cudgel to promote its ideology and give others air cover to go do the same.
Just like everything in academia.
Someone should inform Disney.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:03 AM (hY4dx)
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At absolute *best,* this is a case of inverted causality.
Let's assume - for no reason other than argument - that McKinsey's findings were accurate and that companies with "more diverse" executive ranks were more profitable. That is a correlation, not a causation - at least, not without more evidence. Were they more profitable *because* they were more diverse, or was it the other way around and they were more diverse because they were more profitable and operated in more markets, more regions, etc.? Or was it neither, and it was merely coincidence and that "diversity" and "profitability" are in fact uncorrelated? Coincidental apparent correlation happens all the time.
But McKinsey asserted causation, didn't support it, and then happily went along with using that asserted causation has a cudgel to promote its ideology and give others air cover to go do the same.
Just like everything in academia.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:07 AM (HnUIn)
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13 Their percentage would be less than most major leaguer batting averages (for pitchers no less).
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:06 AM (mIs2x)
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A great expert being right only 40% of the time would be clarifying.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:06 AM (mIs2x)
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A great expert being right only 40% of the time would be clarifying.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:07 AM (GBKbO)
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Besides Cultural Marxist Seminary dumbing down learning, tile think those who are successful assume they got there from being super intelligent.
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2024 11:07 AM (Ni+U3)
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COVID wiped out any remaining vestige of belief I had that there are competent apolitical experts working in government.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:07 AM (hY4dx)
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I propose that all use of the word "expert" be banned, that the word be purged from the English language, and that its use should be punishable by being poked hard with a pointy stick for several minutes.
In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
This. VERY much this!
In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
This. VERY much this!
Posted by: Doof at July 10, 2024 11:07 AM (RhGG0)
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Tom Nichols is an expert in what, exactly? I've never understood how a failed quasi-academic could claim expertise.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (c72m5)
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In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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The world would end.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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The world would end.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)
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Jose, you had it correct there at the end. Malicious incompetence, indeed it was.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (P7Iz+)
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Tom Nichols is an expert in what, exactly? I've never understood how a failed quasi-academic could claim expertise.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (c72m5)
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He's an expert in expertise.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (c72m5)
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He's an expert in expertise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)
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23 In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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The world would end.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)
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He expertly predicted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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The world would end.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)
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He expertly predicted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
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Look how many academic papers prove to be fraudulent.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (uxCna)
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6 You mean hiring a bunch of talentless hacks based on their skin color or weird sexual perversions doesn't result in a better product?
Someone should inform Disney.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Look, so we appeal to a more selective audience.
Someone should inform Disney.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Look, so we appeal to a more selective audience.
Posted by: Leslie hedland at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (OiAR7)
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"Academics have tried to repeat McKinsey's findings and failed, concluding that there is in fact no link between profitability and executive diversity."
I disagree. There is indeed a kind of diversity that will lead to better decision-making and more profitability: diversity of thought. But of course that's not the diversity these fucknuggets have in mind. Just the opposite. They want diversity of skin color and ethnic background and genitalia all thinking the exact same NPC programming.
I disagree. There is indeed a kind of diversity that will lead to better decision-making and more profitability: diversity of thought. But of course that's not the diversity these fucknuggets have in mind. Just the opposite. They want diversity of skin color and ethnic background and genitalia all thinking the exact same NPC programming.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
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> The second is that McKinsey was lying and produced known-bad work product for the purpose of promoting ideological revolution or simply as a raw power move, with the expectation that their fellow "experts" wouldn't look into it too closely.
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Bingo
Every DEI/ESG program is designed to further the left's ideological goals. Same goes for battery cars, windmills, solar farms, edible bugs, etc.
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Bingo
Every DEI/ESG program is designed to further the left's ideological goals. Same goes for battery cars, windmills, solar farms, edible bugs, etc.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 11:09 AM (Q4IgG)
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Diversity in the work place: A some yes men with one or two who are willing to see the glass as half empty.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2024 11:09 AM (tT6L1)
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29 I disagree. There is indeed a kind of diversity that will lead to better decision-making and more profitability: diversity of thought. But of course that's not the diversity these fucknuggets have in mind. Just the opposite. They want diversity of skin color and ethnic background and genitalia all thinking the exact same NPC programming.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
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What advantage is there to a manufacturing company when 1/3 of their board (all of the same race and gender) insists that the company would be better off if they intentionally shit on their existing customer base?
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
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What advantage is there to a manufacturing company when 1/3 of their board (all of the same race and gender) insists that the company would be better off if they intentionally shit on their existing customer base?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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DEI, Experts, Diversity have vaulted Disney stock from $200 to under $100 in just a short time. Has Disney repented, changed course-Nah!
Posted by: Death to Bathouse Willie! at July 10, 2024 11:10 AM (V5BDR)
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"McKinsey was lying and produced known-bad work product for the purpose of promoting ideological revolution or simply as a raw power move, with the expectation that their fellow "experts" wouldn't look into it too closely."
Lots of funding for BigPharma (and others I'm sure) Product Research is funded by the corporations seeking to profit from the product. The lies about the mRNA experimental product (fake vax) was a good example. They paid for the results they wanted, and covered up the bad outcomes. Thousands (millions?) dead as a result did not matter to them.
Was it just for profit, or also part of a larger scheme to Control the Masses? There were certainly elements of Obedience Training for the public, but there was alos a ton of money going to those making the big decisions.
Lots of funding for BigPharma (and others I'm sure) Product Research is funded by the corporations seeking to profit from the product. The lies about the mRNA experimental product (fake vax) was a good example. They paid for the results they wanted, and covered up the bad outcomes. Thousands (millions?) dead as a result did not matter to them.
Was it just for profit, or also part of a larger scheme to Control the Masses? There were certainly elements of Obedience Training for the public, but there was alos a ton of money going to those making the big decisions.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 10, 2024 11:10 AM (Cus5s)
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Wow
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, ha bisogno dei pantaloni. at July 10, 2024 11:10 AM (qfLjt)
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Continuing the theme of this morning's Art Thread: Would the Oracle at Delphi qualify as an "expert"? People in mythology believed what she told them, and if the stories are accurate, she was often right, though usually with a hidden catch. (Croesus asked her if he should attack Persia. She replied that a great empire would fall if he attacked. So Croesus did strike, but it was his own empire that fell.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)
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I propose that all use of the word "expert" be banned, that the word be purged from the English language, and that its use should be punishable by being poked hard with a pointy stick for several minutes.
In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
I have a good track record of designing structures that stand up, so I think I will accept the state of Nebraska recognizing me as an expert in structural engineering.
In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
I have a good track record of designing structures that stand up, so I think I will accept the state of Nebraska recognizing me as an expert in structural engineering.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:10 AM (9mfKN)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (L/fGl)
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Is this the time to mention that I saw Credential Worshiping Lickspittles open for Fine Young Cannibals?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (3Fz6p)
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A member of the Military who wears the badge or of EXPERT, be it rifle, pistol or grenade, has earned the right to do so. Proficiency; proven performance under observation, objectively scored and evaluated.
Damn few of the so-called "experts", brandish that title due to a similarly earned testing, under pressure.
A Bomb Disposal Veteran of 10 years service IS an EXPERT.... proven by the mere fact of his or her continued existence. THAT is "under pressure"
The "expert class" can make no similar claims. They Didn't Earn It.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Damn few of the so-called "experts", brandish that title due to a similarly earned testing, under pressure.
A Bomb Disposal Veteran of 10 years service IS an EXPERT.... proven by the mere fact of his or her continued existence. THAT is "under pressure"
The "expert class" can make no similar claims. They Didn't Earn It.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (kQgoX)
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Even nominally expert folks can get a little too enthusiastic.
Remember Colbert or that other guy, playing clips of self described Doctors waxing eloquently on how experty expert they are because they went through Medical school and memorized 206 bones and have massaged a heart during surgery.
Take the experimental emergency vaccine, you ignorant hick rubes!
Without regard to that - no dissenting opinions would be allowed, were an equally credentialed class of medical doctors crying foul. The order came down, from on high.
What else can we conclude? I trust a doctor with everything to lose for stating their honest opinion, versus someone paid to re-state someone else’s.
See Also: “Appeal To Authority”, a classic logic fallacy known for thousands of years, but must be re-learned by each generation.
Remember Colbert or that other guy, playing clips of self described Doctors waxing eloquently on how experty expert they are because they went through Medical school and memorized 206 bones and have massaged a heart during surgery.
Take the experimental emergency vaccine, you ignorant hick rubes!
Without regard to that - no dissenting opinions would be allowed, were an equally credentialed class of medical doctors crying foul. The order came down, from on high.
What else can we conclude? I trust a doctor with everything to lose for stating their honest opinion, versus someone paid to re-state someone else’s.
See Also: “Appeal To Authority”, a classic logic fallacy known for thousands of years, but must be re-learned by each generation.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (UTD5a)
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Tom Nichols is an expert in what, exactly? I've never understood how a failed quasi-academic could claim expertise.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (c72m5)
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He's an expert in expertise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)
Similar to a celeb-u-tante. Someone who is famous for being famous. Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, etc.
I guess this is just another page in the "politics is show business for ugly people" book.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (c72m5)
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He's an expert in expertise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)
Similar to a celeb-u-tante. Someone who is famous for being famous. Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, etc.
I guess this is just another page in the "politics is show business for ugly people" book.
Posted by: Doof at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (RhGG0)
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If major institutions actually believed in true diversity, I would not have been the only 60+ yr old white man in my division when I retired. The next oldest person there was 20 years my junior.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 10, 2024 11:12 AM (WXNFJ)
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There is indeed a kind of diversity that will lead to better decision-making and more profitability: diversity of thought. But of course that's not the diversity these fucknuggets have in mind. Just the opposite. They want diversity of skin color and ethnic background and genitalia all thinking the exact same NPC programming.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
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This is the basis for the now-ignored and largely forgotten risk-management strategy of bringing in "fresh blood" periodically rather than exclusively promoting from within. With zero outside perspective, you can be literally blind to huge categories of events and outcomes because you simply do not know how to consider that they exist in the first place.
This is called "idiosyncratic risk" and it can be managed (and it go way too far, and responding to it can introduce lots of new risks through the collapse of organizational culture and expectations - like everything, it's a balancing act). Creating a false equivalence between something subtle but real - idiosyncratic risk - and something that is a revolutionary mechanism - postmodern race/sex/etc. group power theory - was extremely effective.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
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This is the basis for the now-ignored and largely forgotten risk-management strategy of bringing in "fresh blood" periodically rather than exclusively promoting from within. With zero outside perspective, you can be literally blind to huge categories of events and outcomes because you simply do not know how to consider that they exist in the first place.
This is called "idiosyncratic risk" and it can be managed (and it go way too far, and responding to it can introduce lots of new risks through the collapse of organizational culture and expectations - like everything, it's a balancing act). Creating a false equivalence between something subtle but real - idiosyncratic risk - and something that is a revolutionary mechanism - postmodern race/sex/etc. group power theory - was extremely effective.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:12 AM (HnUIn)
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I disagree. There is indeed a kind of diversity that will lead to better decision-making and more profitability: diversity of thought. But of course that's not the diversity these fucknuggets have in mind. Just the opposite. They want diversity of skin color and ethnic background and genitalia all thinking the exact same NPC programming.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx
So a gay female production team can't make optimal decisions until they hire a straight white male?
Well I don't want to be in that room when you tell them.
That's what the dei director is for, right?
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx
So a gay female production team can't make optimal decisions until they hire a straight white male?
Well I don't want to be in that room when you tell them.
That's what the dei director is for, right?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 10, 2024 11:12 AM (OiAR7)
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Speaking of the expert class...
TMZ got George Stephanopoulos to say Biden couldn't serve 4 more years today. George had to apologize and ABC came out and said this is George's personal stance and not theirs.
TMZ got George Stephanopoulos to say Biden couldn't serve 4 more years today. George had to apologize and ABC came out and said this is George's personal stance and not theirs.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 10, 2024 11:12 AM (exHjb)
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"Academics have tried to repeat McKinsey's findings and failed, concluding that there is in fact no link between profitability and executive diversity."
This is one of those "studies" where the results are so insanely improbable -- if not impossible -- that the entire scheme should immediately be called into question.
Plus, when the insanely improbably results just so happen to conveniently support a leftwing sacrament, then more red flags should be exploding than in all of China.
What possible rational link could there be between executive ethnic diversity and profitability? It makes no sense at all.
This is one of those "studies" where the results are so insanely improbable -- if not impossible -- that the entire scheme should immediately be called into question.
Plus, when the insanely improbably results just so happen to conveniently support a leftwing sacrament, then more red flags should be exploding than in all of China.
What possible rational link could there be between executive ethnic diversity and profitability? It makes no sense at all.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:12 AM (iFTx/)
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I disagree. There is indeed a kind of diversity that will lead to better decision-making and more profitability: diversity of thought. But of course that's not the diversity these fucknuggets have in mind. Just the opposite. They want diversity of skin color and ethnic background and genitalia all thinking the exact same NPC programming.
Posted by: Elric Blade at
This is where it originated- approaching problems from a different vantage often led to creative solutions to problems. It was intended to remove group think and build upon ideas. The morphed into this ridiculous we have now that does nothing for anyone except make work life miserable because you never know who is going to interpret what as a micro aggression and 50% being told they are inherently terrible people because they are white.
Posted by: Elric Blade at
This is where it originated- approaching problems from a different vantage often led to creative solutions to problems. It was intended to remove group think and build upon ideas. The morphed into this ridiculous we have now that does nothing for anyone except make work life miserable because you never know who is going to interpret what as a micro aggression and 50% being told they are inherently terrible people because they are white.
Posted by: Piper at July 10, 2024 11:13 AM (p4NUW)
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Obama. The greatest failed and disastrously so, DEI hire in the history of man, has been the point of the spear in directing stooges into academia and orgs such as McKinsey from his his first term to today.
Posted by: Son of Dad at July 10, 2024 11:13 AM (8JB5s)
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See Also: “Appeal To Authority”, a classic logic fallacy known for thousands of years, but must be re-learned by each generation.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (UTD5a)
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I have 51 Intelligence Community grandees who say you're completely wrong on this.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (UTD5a)
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I have 51 Intelligence Community grandees who say you're completely wrong on this.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:13 AM (hY4dx)
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I have 51 Intelligence Community grandees who say you're completely wrong on this.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:13 AM (hY4dx)
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Okay. They say he's wrong. But what do they actually say? Can we talk about what they actually say?
I have 51 Intelligence Community grandees who say you're completely wrong on this.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:13 AM (hY4dx)
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Okay. They say he's wrong. But what do they actually say? Can we talk about what they actually say?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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Amy Coney Barrett’s SCOTUS Tenure Has Been Disappointing So Far
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B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something that you never gonna forget
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You ain't seen nothin' yet
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something that you never gonna forget
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
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Is this the time to mention that I saw Credential Worshiping Lickspittles open for Fine Young Cannibals?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (3Fz6p)
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As good a time as any!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (3Fz6p)
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As good a time as any!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:14 AM (HnUIn)
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Ya know who else's papers are secret? Freud's
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 10, 2024 11:15 AM (QSrLX)
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But McKinsey asserted causation, didn't support it, and then happily went along with using that asserted causation has a cudgel to promote its ideology and give others air cover to go do the same.
Just like everything in academia.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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The HR functions at the companies paid McKinsey to tell them DEI was a great investment. Why? Well, partly ideology, and partly, on a more practical level, to handicap their competition. "If we made a bad move, let's make sure everybody else does the same "
Just like everything in academia.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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The HR functions at the companies paid McKinsey to tell them DEI was a great investment. Why? Well, partly ideology, and partly, on a more practical level, to handicap their competition. "If we made a bad move, let's make sure everybody else does the same "
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 10, 2024 11:15 AM (Zbn3V)
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He's an expert in expertise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)
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Exactly. No accomplishments, no actual interesting thoughts, and no work worth citing. Despite that, he persists, like Hillary, or covid.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)
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Exactly. No accomplishments, no actual interesting thoughts, and no work worth citing. Despite that, he persists, like Hillary, or covid.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 10, 2024 11:15 AM (c72m5)
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49 Obama. The greatest failed and disastrously so, DEI hire in the history of man, has been the point of the spear in directing stooges into academia and orgs such as McKinsey from his his first term to today.
Posted by: Son of Dad at July 10, 2024 11:13 AM (8JB5s)
Failed? I disagree. He succeeded in almost endeavor that he took on.
Posted by: Son of Dad at July 10, 2024 11:13 AM (8JB5s)
Failed? I disagree. He succeeded in almost endeavor that he took on.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:15 AM (9mfKN)
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How the hell would diversity in the sense they mean it make money for a company?
Hiring people based on skin color instead of talent will of course lower the level of talent.
And this would be true if you were hiring white people for their skin color instead of black people as well...
This was an argument against segregation back in the day
Hiring people based on skin color instead of talent will of course lower the level of talent.
And this would be true if you were hiring white people for their skin color instead of black people as well...
This was an argument against segregation back in the day
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2024 11:16 AM (oZhjI)
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Expert: someone who knows more and more about less and less until they now absolutely everything about nothing.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 10, 2024 11:16 AM (w9Wax)
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58 How the hell would diversity in the sense they mean it make money for a company?
Hiring people based on skin color instead of talent will of course lower the level of talent.
And this would be true if you were hiring white people for their skin color instead of black people as well...
This was an argument against segregation back in the day
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2024 11:16 AM (oZhjI)
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They will bring their unique lived experiences which will lead to making better decisions and then making the company more profitable.
Duh.
Hiring people based on skin color instead of talent will of course lower the level of talent.
And this would be true if you were hiring white people for their skin color instead of black people as well...
This was an argument against segregation back in the day
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2024 11:16 AM (oZhjI)
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They will bring their unique lived experiences which will lead to making better decisions and then making the company more profitable.
Duh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (GBKbO)
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52 Amy Coney Barrett’s SCOTUS Tenure Has Been Disappointing So Far
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You ain't seen nothin' yet
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something that you never gonna forget
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
In the grand scheme - she is a little disappointing, but she was put on to overturn Roe. And she was the 5th vote. That forever puts her in "okay" land.
Roberts is actually the disappointment. And he's the chief.
If we got all Barretts, we'd be okay. If we get all Roberts, we're sunk. All Scalias, and we're golden, but those are hard to come by (we seem to always get Roberts, instead)...
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You ain't seen nothin' yet
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something that you never gonna forget
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
In the grand scheme - she is a little disappointing, but she was put on to overturn Roe. And she was the 5th vote. That forever puts her in "okay" land.
Roberts is actually the disappointment. And he's the chief.
If we got all Barretts, we'd be okay. If we get all Roberts, we're sunk. All Scalias, and we're golden, but those are hard to come by (we seem to always get Roberts, instead)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (exHjb)
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How did McKinsey define diversity?
Did the people doing the research use McKinsey's definition or did they go with the DEI definition?
Or, are they one in the same?
Did the people doing the research use McKinsey's definition or did they go with the DEI definition?
Or, are they one in the same?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (tT6L1)
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You can't keep a good man down.
Joey Chestnut Eats 200 Boneless Wings After Challenge From Buffalo Wild Wings
Joey Chestnut Eats 200 Boneless Wings After Challenge From Buffalo Wild Wings
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
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Actually one of the things I find fascinating is that in police society, most people are an expert on something.
The Left has intentionally conflated expert and credentialed.
But I'll give you an example. My mother in law taught me how to make pie. Both sweet and savory. Of course I already knew how to make pie but that woman gave me lifelong tips and tricks that only an "expert" would know. It was a dozen years ago but I still carry her knowledge with me.
That's an expert. It doesn't mean you are more special than anyone else. Most people here have an expertise in *something*. Whether it's whig and politics, atc and law, or Wolfus and celebrity feet.
Credentialism is just another form of top down social control and deception which is where the Left's expertise lies.
The Left has intentionally conflated expert and credentialed.
But I'll give you an example. My mother in law taught me how to make pie. Both sweet and savory. Of course I already knew how to make pie but that woman gave me lifelong tips and tricks that only an "expert" would know. It was a dozen years ago but I still carry her knowledge with me.
That's an expert. It doesn't mean you are more special than anyone else. Most people here have an expertise in *something*. Whether it's whig and politics, atc and law, or Wolfus and celebrity feet.
Credentialism is just another form of top down social control and deception which is where the Left's expertise lies.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (V3MYN)
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Let me add this to compliment Joe Mannix's rant post:
"... For those who have to work in marketing infested areas, you need to be extremely bloody minded. Ask yourself how you could know if the claims are true, independent of someone making the claim. You absolutely must not listen to any experts without a complete "qui bono" analysis: you need to think through how the information in question got in front of your nose. There are no more "scientific americans" to do the vetting for you, and everything now published there and in other such legacy places is probably a lie. "Experts" are almost universally frauds."
https://is.gd/BHa9Nq
Scott Locklin, from his blog "Locklin on science"
June 25, 2024: "I’m a scientist, I don’t believe in anything"
"... For those who have to work in marketing infested areas, you need to be extremely bloody minded. Ask yourself how you could know if the claims are true, independent of someone making the claim. You absolutely must not listen to any experts without a complete "qui bono" analysis: you need to think through how the information in question got in front of your nose. There are no more "scientific americans" to do the vetting for you, and everything now published there and in other such legacy places is probably a lie. "Experts" are almost universally frauds."
https://is.gd/BHa9Nq
Scott Locklin, from his blog "Locklin on science"
June 25, 2024: "I’m a scientist, I don’t believe in anything"
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (O7YUW)
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How the hell would diversity in the sense they mean it make money for a company?
Hiring people based on skin color instead of talent will of course lower the level of talent.
And this would be true if you were hiring white people for their skin color instead of black people as well...
This was an argument against segregation back in the day
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2024 11:16 AM (oZhjI)
Apparently, REAL segregation has never been tried - because it's all the rage again!
Hiring people based on skin color instead of talent will of course lower the level of talent.
And this would be true if you were hiring white people for their skin color instead of black people as well...
This was an argument against segregation back in the day
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2024 11:16 AM (oZhjI)
Apparently, REAL segregation has never been tried - because it's all the rage again!
Posted by: Doof at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (RhGG0)
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Speaking of the ongoing agony of the Democratic Party, I read an essay last night explaining the core of the problem.
The Bidens are assholes.
This had been known in Washington for decades, and it was only when Joe ran for VP that the media manufactured the persona of a kindly grandfather and his loving family to fit the political needs of the moment.
This is a man who repeatedly watched his dogs attack Secret Service agents and White House staff, and did nothing about it until the attacks became public.
Imagine what sort of person you have to be to watch that, and do nothing.
So, the Bidens are completely invulnerable to any appeals to their "better nature" - they don't have one. Their sole criterion for making a decision is whether it benefits them or not.
The Democratic elites picked Joe to be President, and I hope that they fully enjoy the consequences.
The Bidens are assholes.
This had been known in Washington for decades, and it was only when Joe ran for VP that the media manufactured the persona of a kindly grandfather and his loving family to fit the political needs of the moment.
This is a man who repeatedly watched his dogs attack Secret Service agents and White House staff, and did nothing about it until the attacks became public.
Imagine what sort of person you have to be to watch that, and do nothing.
So, the Bidens are completely invulnerable to any appeals to their "better nature" - they don't have one. Their sole criterion for making a decision is whether it benefits them or not.
The Democratic elites picked Joe to be President, and I hope that they fully enjoy the consequences.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (uxCna)
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It gets to the heart of epistemological studies. How do we know what is real, how do we know what is false? I mean really know.
“Follow the money” and “Occam’s Razor” sort of intersect here I reckon. There are a lot of scoundrels out there in Washington city, so no laws or legislation yet crafted no matter how fine matter in the slightest in the long run. The fact that the “money” they are following is just phony baloney confetti-bucks just means the collapse will come sooner rather than later.
None of the unpleasantness would have been remotely possible without that “elastic” currency and deficit borrowing and spending and continued resolutions and reconciliations and voodoo economics.
“Follow the money” and “Occam’s Razor” sort of intersect here I reckon. There are a lot of scoundrels out there in Washington city, so no laws or legislation yet crafted no matter how fine matter in the slightest in the long run. The fact that the “money” they are following is just phony baloney confetti-bucks just means the collapse will come sooner rather than later.
None of the unpleasantness would have been remotely possible without that “elastic” currency and deficit borrowing and spending and continued resolutions and reconciliations and voodoo economics.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (UTD5a)
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"... Academics have tried to repeat McKinsey's findings and failed, concluding that there is in fact no link between profitability and executive diversity. ..."
The truth is probably that there is no link between profitability and executives in the first place.
I remember some years ago when a friend told me that they cut 700 top executive positions at the huge corporation he worked for. "Golden Parachutes", early retirement, that sort of thing, I guess. The corporation didn't miss a beat without them.
It works like any other gang of criminals - you show your abject fealty to the right people - even to the point of breaking the rules to their benefit, without having to be asked (so they have deniability) - and you move up. Meritocracy is a fantasy.
The truth is probably that there is no link between profitability and executives in the first place.
I remember some years ago when a friend told me that they cut 700 top executive positions at the huge corporation he worked for. "Golden Parachutes", early retirement, that sort of thing, I guess. The corporation didn't miss a beat without them.
It works like any other gang of criminals - you show your abject fealty to the right people - even to the point of breaking the rules to their benefit, without having to be asked (so they have deniability) - and you move up. Meritocracy is a fantasy.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:18 AM (hOOi9)
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Amy Coney Barrett’s SCOTUS Tenure Has Been Disappointing So Far
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You ain't seen nothin' yet
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something that you never gonna forget
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024
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You ain't been around!!!
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You ain't seen nothin' yet
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something that you never gonna forget
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024
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You ain't been around!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:19 AM (J2vNu)
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""Academics have tried to repeat McKinsey's findings and failed, concluding that there is in fact no link between profitability and executive diversity."
There is a link, but it is an inverse link. The more DEI, the less profitability. (from my own personal research, attained from reading AofS links ... heh)
There is a link, but it is an inverse link. The more DEI, the less profitability. (from my own personal research, attained from reading AofS links ... heh)
Posted by: illiniwek at July 10, 2024 11:19 AM (Cus5s)
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My oldest son left one of the top tier consultancies not too long ago. He billed monster $$$$ for his hourly rate when at industries he knew absolutely nothing about.
He often says "House of Lies" is mostly dead center accurate.
He often says "House of Lies" is mostly dead center accurate.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 10, 2024 11:19 AM (WXNFJ)
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Joey Chestnut Eats 200 Boneless Wings After Challenge From Buffalo Wild Wings
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
Is it gonna' be on Espn? It's gotta' be on Espn!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
Is it gonna' be on Espn? It's gotta' be on Espn!
Posted by: BignJames at July 10, 2024 11:20 AM (AwYPR)
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Wear two masks!
Posted by: The Experts, circa 2021 at July 10, 2024 11:20 AM (tNgW5)
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60 58 How the hell would diversity in the sense they mean it make money for a company?
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I saw a movie on TV where the white boys at NASA couldn't figure out how to bring back a crippled spacecraft until a black woman on the custodial staff showed them the math.
That stuff would happen all the time if only the diverse custodial staff was allowed to make all the important corporate decisions.
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I saw a movie on TV where the white boys at NASA couldn't figure out how to bring back a crippled spacecraft until a black woman on the custodial staff showed them the math.
That stuff would happen all the time if only the diverse custodial staff was allowed to make all the important corporate decisions.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:20 AM (hY4dx)
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That's an expert. It doesn't mean you are more special than anyone else. Most people here have an expertise in *something*. Whether it's whig and politics, atc and law, or Wolfus and celebrity feet. . . .
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM
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I'd rather think I'm renowned for my knowledge of tobacco and pipes, or vintage razors, or vintage TV; but, whatever . . .
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM
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I'd rather think I'm renowned for my knowledge of tobacco and pipes, or vintage razors, or vintage TV; but, whatever . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (J2vNu)
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72 My oldest son left one of the top tier consultancies not too long ago. He billed monster $$$$ for his hourly rate when at industries he knew absolutely nothing about.
He often says "House of Lies" is mostly dead center accurate.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 10, 2024 11:19 AM (WXNFJ)
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We had a management consultancy come into my last place of work.
They set up a time tracking system that was supposedly designed to increase productivity over time.
It was an administrative nightmare just to maintain. We were something like 9 months into the contract when one of the directors asked for an opinion from a very large room. "Raise your hand if you think we should get rid of this."
The entire room raised their hand.
The consultancy guy was in the room next to the director. His face was something else in that moment.
He often says "House of Lies" is mostly dead center accurate.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 10, 2024 11:19 AM (WXNFJ)
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We had a management consultancy come into my last place of work.
They set up a time tracking system that was supposedly designed to increase productivity over time.
It was an administrative nightmare just to maintain. We were something like 9 months into the contract when one of the directors asked for an opinion from a very large room. "Raise your hand if you think we should get rid of this."
The entire room raised their hand.
The consultancy guy was in the room next to the director. His face was something else in that moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
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Well I've done my share of asking 'diversified' idiots how does skin color, sex or social status influence decision making in basic scientific research (not applied) but cannot ever get a coherent answer, most times no answer at all.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, e marrone e femina at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (qfLjt)
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Good post Joe. McKinsey again.
George Clooney has a op Ed in the NY times saying he loves Biden but he should withdraw. If you've lost Clooney. .. anyway
George Clooney has a op Ed in the NY times saying he loves Biden but he should withdraw. If you've lost Clooney. .. anyway
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (oSruC)
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I'd rather think I'm renowned for my knowledge of tobacco and pipes, or vintage razors, or vintage TV; but, whatever . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (J2vNu)
I was just messin' with ya bud.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (J2vNu)
I was just messin' with ya bud.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (V3MYN)
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... I remember some years ago when a friend told me that they cut 700 top executive positions at the huge corporation he worked for. "Golden Parachutes", early retirement, that sort of thing, I guess. The corporation didn't miss a beat without them. ...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:18 AM (hOOi9)
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Depends how bloated the executive ranks are. At a lot of big companies, they're very bloated. In any creative population, approximately the square root of the population is responsible for more than half the output (Price's Law, but can be approximated with the "80/20 rule" that often serves to get into the ballpark). The average is dragged down by the dead weight and if you have seriously bloated ranks, most of them are almost-certainly useless.
Look at a corporate org chart and count the number of management steps between a front-line production worker and the CEO. The more steps, the more bloated the executive rank. My prior company had *seven* people between me (front-line worker) and the CEO. After the acquisition and purging began, there were four.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:18 AM (hOOi9)
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Depends how bloated the executive ranks are. At a lot of big companies, they're very bloated. In any creative population, approximately the square root of the population is responsible for more than half the output (Price's Law, but can be approximated with the "80/20 rule" that often serves to get into the ballpark). The average is dragged down by the dead weight and if you have seriously bloated ranks, most of them are almost-certainly useless.
Look at a corporate org chart and count the number of management steps between a front-line production worker and the CEO. The more steps, the more bloated the executive rank. My prior company had *seven* people between me (front-line worker) and the CEO. After the acquisition and purging began, there were four.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)
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America has a good 20 years to look at what the Didn’t Earn It crowd (or really even a single egregiously stupid individual) can do to a city or town or county. This isn’t a criticism of genuine diversity.
But a denunciation of the sort or bait and switch that Leftists are famous for. Air dropping Okra Winfrey or Tay Tay to be the standard bearer for the New New Left may not have the exotic cachet it once had.
But a denunciation of the sort or bait and switch that Leftists are famous for. Air dropping Okra Winfrey or Tay Tay to be the standard bearer for the New New Left may not have the exotic cachet it once had.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (UTD5a)
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79 Good post Joe. McKinsey again.
George Clooney has a op Ed in the NY times saying he loves Biden but he should withdraw. If you've lost Clooney. .. anyway
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (oSruC)
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I wonder if Clooney has let go of his dream of becoming president.
George Clooney has a op Ed in the NY times saying he loves Biden but he should withdraw. If you've lost Clooney. .. anyway
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (oSruC)
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I wonder if Clooney has let go of his dream of becoming president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO)
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78 Well I've done my share of asking 'diversified' idiots how does skin color, sex or social status influence decision making in basic scientific research (not applied) but cannot ever get a coherent answer, most times no answer at all.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, e marrone e femina at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (qfLjt)
Easy - “Black Girl Magic”. Duh.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, e marrone e femina at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (qfLjt)
Easy - “Black Girl Magic”. Duh.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (9mfKN)
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Hiring people based on skin color instead of talent will of course lower the level of talent.
It's worse than that - changing the criteria for hiring and promotion from achievement to DEI fundamentally changes an organization.
The talented people know that they won't be rewarded for their work, and the DEI hires know that their position in the organization isn't dependent on their achievement.
That changes everything about an organization.
It's worse than that - changing the criteria for hiring and promotion from achievement to DEI fundamentally changes an organization.
The talented people know that they won't be rewarded for their work, and the DEI hires know that their position in the organization isn't dependent on their achievement.
That changes everything about an organization.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:23 AM (uxCna)
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Seeing at Legalinsurrection.com Chucky is trying to get Trumps SS denied if he gets sent to jail. LI and comments seem to think it won't work for many reasons.
Made me wonder if the delay was in conjunction with Chucky.
Made me wonder if the delay was in conjunction with Chucky.
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2024 11:23 AM (Ni+U3)
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79 Good post Joe. McKinsey again.
George Clooney has a op Ed in the NY times saying he loves Biden but he should withdraw. If you've lost Clooney. .. anyway
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (oSruC)
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I'm still waiting to hear from Bette Midler on this.
George Clooney has a op Ed in the NY times saying he loves Biden but he should withdraw. If you've lost Clooney. .. anyway
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (oSruC)
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I'm still waiting to hear from Bette Midler on this.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:23 AM (hY4dx)
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The appellation expert is next to hubris. One may be well versed in a given subject but there is always more to learn
Posted by: Ben Had at July 10, 2024 11:23 AM (5MvGY)
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So which is moar likely to occur this week? Biden steps down or a Boeing Jet Liner drops some pieces while in flight?
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2024 11:23 AM (n17eQ)
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The entire room raised their hand.
The consultancy guy was in the room next to the director. His face was something else in that moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Consultant apparently had ongoing payment stream if you kept the system running.
The entire room raised their hand.
The consultancy guy was in the room next to the director. His face was something else in that moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Consultant apparently had ongoing payment stream if you kept the system running.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 10, 2024 11:24 AM (Zbn3V)
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If you have a group of people assigned to a specific task, diversity of thought, not ideology might be beneficial.
Presuming the specific task can be accomplished any number of ways. Some of which may be more effective, cheaper/expensive, take more/less time, etc.
Still, there will likely be some seriously stupid ideas that come out of that group anyway.
Presuming the specific task can be accomplished any number of ways. Some of which may be more effective, cheaper/expensive, take more/less time, etc.
Still, there will likely be some seriously stupid ideas that come out of that group anyway.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 11:24 AM (Q4IgG)
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67 The Democratic elites picked Joe to be President, and I hope that they fully enjoy the consequences.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at
Don’t forget his skinny dipping while secret service agents, especially female, had to watch. And Jill is no better. She didn’t stop it. She, in fact, liked to wear revealing bikinis for her show. Let me be clear, I don’t care about any woman wearing a bikini, especially in your own pool. I do, but nothing crazy. If I am on the beach, I am more modest. I certainly am not skinny dipping in front of strangers or staff. They are just weirdos, in summary.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at
Don’t forget his skinny dipping while secret service agents, especially female, had to watch. And Jill is no better. She didn’t stop it. She, in fact, liked to wear revealing bikinis for her show. Let me be clear, I don’t care about any woman wearing a bikini, especially in your own pool. I do, but nothing crazy. If I am on the beach, I am more modest. I certainly am not skinny dipping in front of strangers or staff. They are just weirdos, in summary.
Posted by: Piper at July 10, 2024 11:25 AM (p4NUW)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)
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The exception to the diversity/profitability link might be the monopoly giants like Google or Twitter. But those were not profitable because of their diversity, but because of their monopoly powers, plus government interference.
Musk showed he could fire most of the staff and still function just fine, even as he now is at odds with the benefits of government subservience. There are a lot of government perks that might help the DEI company be more profitable ... none make the company more productive.
Musk showed he could fire most of the staff and still function just fine, even as he now is at odds with the benefits of government subservience. There are a lot of government perks that might help the DEI company be more profitable ... none make the company more productive.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 10, 2024 11:25 AM (Cus5s)
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"McKinsey was sloppy, unsophisticated and stupid"
They hired Chelsea Clinton, so you can rule that one out.
They hired Chelsea Clinton, so you can rule that one out.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:25 AM (CgbEA)
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We had a management consultancy come into my last place of work.
They set up a time tracking system that was supposedly designed to increase productivity over time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
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Was this one of those "Time and Motion" studies/fads that had a brief show in the second half of the 20th century?
We had a management consultancy come into my last place of work.
They set up a time tracking system that was supposedly designed to increase productivity over time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
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Was this one of those "Time and Motion" studies/fads that had a brief show in the second half of the 20th century?
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, l'orologio e fermo at July 10, 2024 11:25 AM (qfLjt)
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{77} ... The consultancy guy was in the room next to the director. His face was something else in that moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
I'll bet. That just made my morning. Thanks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
I'll bet. That just made my morning. Thanks.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (O7YUW)
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89 So which is moar likely to occur this week? Biden steps down or a Boeing Jet Liner drops some pieces while in flight?
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2024 11:23 AM (n17eQ)
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Boeing is now including a roll of duct tape with every aircraft sale, so my money is on Biden leaving.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 10, 2024 11:23 AM (n17eQ)
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Boeing is now including a roll of duct tape with every aircraft sale, so my money is on Biden leaving.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (hY4dx)
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96 Was this one of those "Time and Motion" studies/fads that had a brief show in the second half of the 20th century?
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, l'orologio e fermo at July 10, 2024 11:25 AM (qfLjt)
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Can't remember. Maybe?
I just remember having to track every 15 minutes of time in real time.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, l'orologio e fermo at July 10, 2024 11:25 AM (qfLjt)
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Can't remember. Maybe?
I just remember having to track every 15 minutes of time in real time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (GBKbO)
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America was a better place when workers and managers were hired on the basis of their skills, expertise and experience than the color of their skin, what's in their pants or their 'sexual preference or orientation.'
We go back or this whole planet is doomed for destruction.
We go back or this whole planet is doomed for destruction.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)
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Boeing pieces in flight
Afternoon delight
Afternoon delight
Posted by: Starliner Vocal Band at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (w9Wax)
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I think it stems from yhe notion of eexperts declaring that the core knowledge of a given field has neared perfection that there is only one clearly superior way to accomplish a given task.
In medicine this emerged as "Best Practices". Once declared, anyone who didn't embrace best practices wad ostracized, and looked down upon. That led to large numbers becoming risk averse and deferring to the experts. Practicing Pediatricians dared not deviate from the Practice Guidelines of the AAP, as those became the benchmark of malpractice claims and litigation. This mindset eventually leads to paralysis or ossification of an entire profession..
Junior members of the profession are not allowed to become decision makers in their own right.
I've known experienced and knowledgable physicians to defer to the insanity espoused by gender specialists for just these reasons.
In medicine this emerged as "Best Practices". Once declared, anyone who didn't embrace best practices wad ostracized, and looked down upon. That led to large numbers becoming risk averse and deferring to the experts. Practicing Pediatricians dared not deviate from the Practice Guidelines of the AAP, as those became the benchmark of malpractice claims and litigation. This mindset eventually leads to paralysis or ossification of an entire profession..
Junior members of the profession are not allowed to become decision makers in their own right.
I've known experienced and knowledgable physicians to defer to the insanity espoused by gender specialists for just these reasons.
Posted by: muldoon at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (uCfKO)
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I wonder if Clooney has let go of his dream of becoming president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO)
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All right - I'm with you fellers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO)
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All right - I'm with you fellers.
Posted by: Delmar O'Donnell at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (3Fz6p)
Posted by: SMOD at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (RHGPo)
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Gorilla Tape > Duck Tape
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (CgbEA)
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The talented people know that they won't be rewarded for their work, and the DEI hires know that their position in the organization isn't dependent on their achievement.
Scott Adams ("Dilbert") worked for the phone company in the 80s, and was told that he wouldn't be promoted because he was a white male.
This has been going on a long time.
Scott Adams ("Dilbert") worked for the phone company in the 80s, and was told that he wouldn't be promoted because he was a white male.
This has been going on a long time.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (uxCna)
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IOW, Squeaky wheels get "greased".
Posted by: muldoon at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (uCfKO)
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64 Actually one of the things I find fascinating is that in police society, most people are an expert on something.
The Left has intentionally conflated expert and credentialed.
But I'll give you an example. My mother in law taught me how to make pie. Both sweet and savory. Of course I already knew how to make pie but that woman gave me lifelong tips and tricks that only an "expert" would know. It was a dozen years ago but I still carry her knowledge with me.
That's an expert. It doesn't mean you are more special than anyone else. Most people here have an expertise in *something*. Whether it's whig and politics, atc and law, or Wolfus and celebrity feet.
Credentialism is just another form of top down social control and deception which is where the Left's expertise lies.
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You would be absolutely right. People even those below the median in iq can be an expert in what they know best via applying experience (personal and observed) and then acting in the future in accordance with successes while avoiding failures.
I have found that those that blather on about their expert status are generally the same as those blathering about muh principles or muh morality
The Left has intentionally conflated expert and credentialed.
But I'll give you an example. My mother in law taught me how to make pie. Both sweet and savory. Of course I already knew how to make pie but that woman gave me lifelong tips and tricks that only an "expert" would know. It was a dozen years ago but I still carry her knowledge with me.
That's an expert. It doesn't mean you are more special than anyone else. Most people here have an expertise in *something*. Whether it's whig and politics, atc and law, or Wolfus and celebrity feet.
Credentialism is just another form of top down social control and deception which is where the Left's expertise lies.
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You would be absolutely right. People even those below the median in iq can be an expert in what they know best via applying experience (personal and observed) and then acting in the future in accordance with successes while avoiding failures.
I have found that those that blather on about their expert status are generally the same as those blathering about muh principles or muh morality
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (mIs2x)
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103 I wonder if Clooney has let go of his dream of becoming president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO)
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All right - I'm with you fellers.
Posted by: Delmar O'Donnell at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (3Fz6p)
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Well, if he's in, then I'm out. That pomade stinks something fierce.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO)
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All right - I'm with you fellers.
Posted by: Delmar O'Donnell at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (3Fz6p)
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Well, if he's in, then I'm out. That pomade stinks something fierce.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
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"Was this one of those "Time and Motion" studies/fads that had a brief show in the second half of the 20th century?"
That was the big hotness in early 20th C.
That was the big hotness in early 20th C.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (CgbEA)
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This sure seems like a real tort bonanza against McKinsey
Posted by: SMOD at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (RHGPo)
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Two words to listen for when Presidentish is speaking: "look" and "anyway."
Usually he's started a thought or sentence but part way through he runs out of steam and derails. Those are his two go-to words as he attempts to get back on track and it usually doesn't end well.
Another idiosyncrasy is the phrase "the idea" which he uses as a form of emphasis. It was very apparent during the debate mumblings.
Usually he's started a thought or sentence but part way through he runs out of steam and derails. Those are his two go-to words as he attempts to get back on track and it usually doesn't end well.
Another idiosyncrasy is the phrase "the idea" which he uses as a form of emphasis. It was very apparent during the debate mumblings.
Posted by: Casual observer at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (tNgW5)
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@96/Ciampino: Eventually you realize that they're all fads and that companies that continue to fall for these con-men's scams are not the companies you want to work for, nor are they companies you want to invest in.
Stupidity costs.
Stupidity costs.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (O7YUW)
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I propose that all use of the word "expert" be banned, that the word be purged from the English language, and that its use should be punishable by being poked hard with a pointy stick for several minutes.
In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
I feel similarly about 'pundits' and 'divas.'
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
In its place, those who would normally be called experts would instead be named, their credentials listed, and a history of previous predictions and their comparisons to reality shall be provided.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
I feel similarly about 'pundits' and 'divas.'
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
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The appellation expert is next to hubris. One may be well versed in a given subject but there is always more to learn
Posted by: Ben Had at July 10, 2024 11:23 AM (5MvGY)
Agree totally but there is a use for the term even if it has been corrupted. In modern life it helps to know who knows what about what. I presume though I haven't looked, that expert and experienced have the same root? It helps to know who has significant experience in certain subjects. We pay people for just that.
I think the term master is above expert. And we all know people we would call masters in certain areas. I don't have a problem with it. The problem is their credentialism. Many bs professions are based solely in credentialism. For example you can become a gold level certified hypnotist for 1000 dollars but a platinum certified one for 2000. That is the Left's game writ small.
Throw in equity and you have a recipe for a godless Planned Society which is fake from the ground up.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 10, 2024 11:23 AM (5MvGY)
Agree totally but there is a use for the term even if it has been corrupted. In modern life it helps to know who knows what about what. I presume though I haven't looked, that expert and experienced have the same root? It helps to know who has significant experience in certain subjects. We pay people for just that.
I think the term master is above expert. And we all know people we would call masters in certain areas. I don't have a problem with it. The problem is their credentialism. Many bs professions are based solely in credentialism. For example you can become a gold level certified hypnotist for 1000 dollars but a platinum certified one for 2000. That is the Left's game writ small.
Throw in equity and you have a recipe for a godless Planned Society which is fake from the ground up.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (V3MYN)
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Well, if he's in, then I'm out. That pomade stinks something fierce.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
That’s only because I had to use FOP, not Dapper Dan!
~ Ulysses Everett McGill
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
That’s only because I had to use FOP, not Dapper Dan!
~ Ulysses Everett McGill
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (9mfKN)
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114 I feel similarly about 'pundits' and 'divas.'
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
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Oh, don't be such a prima donna.
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
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Oh, don't be such a prima donna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
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103 I wonder if Clooney has let go of his dream of becoming president.
.. under the objectives of DEI, everyone should be given a chance, if only for a few second, to be POTUS
.. under the objectives of DEI, everyone should be given a chance, if only for a few second, to be POTUS
Posted by: SMOD at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (RHGPo)
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I suppose one factor in all of this is that hiring can never be perfectly objective. You can't ask people a set of questions and review their resume and come away perfectly being able to rank candidates.
Hell google(?) tried this with an automated system and found it didn't work. It mostly hired asians IIRC so it was rayciss too
BUT you can generally pick the better candidates from the worse ones and you can see on teams and companies those that do a more through interview then others do end up with better employees...
Hell google(?) tried this with an automated system and found it didn't work. It mostly hired asians IIRC so it was rayciss too
BUT you can generally pick the better candidates from the worse ones and you can see on teams and companies those that do a more through interview then others do end up with better employees...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (oZhjI)
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I tried to shift the paradigm but somebody moved my cheese so I resorted to business reengineering.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (CgbEA)
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IOW, Squeaky wheels get "greased".
Posted by: muldoon at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (uCfKO)
....but the nail that sticks up gets hammered down.
Posted by: muldoon at July 10, 2024 11:27 AM (uCfKO)
....but the nail that sticks up gets hammered down.
Posted by: BignJames at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (AwYPR)
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DEI conversations mix well with a SaltyVoter YouTube post I just saw (not Salty Cracker...Salty voter is a super Lefty).
Get an old photo of sexy younger Kamala Harris, add old azz Willie Brown, yank a handful of pubes, add a splash of 2% milk, throw it in a Red MAGA blender for one second, and voila! You have the latest 'Kamala Harris was a prostitute that slept with old politicians to move up the ranks' Red MAGA conspiracy!
Have to admit, younger Kamala looks pretty good in the photo he posted: https://tinyurl.com/2pmjhkj9
Interestingly, I couldn't find the photo he used on Google...but using the same keywords, had no trouble finding it on Bing lol.
Get an old photo of sexy younger Kamala Harris, add old azz Willie Brown, yank a handful of pubes, add a splash of 2% milk, throw it in a Red MAGA blender for one second, and voila! You have the latest 'Kamala Harris was a prostitute that slept with old politicians to move up the ranks' Red MAGA conspiracy!
Have to admit, younger Kamala looks pretty good in the photo he posted: https://tinyurl.com/2pmjhkj9
Interestingly, I couldn't find the photo he used on Google...but using the same keywords, had no trouble finding it on Bing lol.
Posted by: Intercepted SaltyVoter Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (JCZqz)
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Oh, don't be such a prima donna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
asshole.
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Oh, don't be such a prima donna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
asshole.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (Zz0t1)
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There's a good Clifton Webb movie where he portrays a time-and-motion dude.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (CgbEA)
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I feel similarly about 'pundits' and 'divas.'
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
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How about "maven?" I was a DOS maven, back in the day.
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
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How about "maven?" I was a DOS maven, back in the day.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 10, 2024 11:31 AM (3Fz6p)
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I feel similarly about 'pundits' and 'divas.'
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
Even the old school WWE Divas division with the Bellas and Trish Stratus?!
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
Even the old school WWE Divas division with the Bellas and Trish Stratus?!
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:31 AM (CIS44)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:31 AM (L/fGl)
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Socrates discussed this in his Apology. (The word meant "defense" back then, not confession.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (1bNHn)
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Was this one of those "Time and Motion" studies/fads that had a brief show in the second half of the 20th century?
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, l'orologio e fermo at July 10, 2024
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I think those started earlier. Frank Gilbreth, the father in the Cheaper By the Dozen memoir, was a pioneer in time and motion studies. He named the smallest step in any process after himself in reverse (sort of), the "therblig." Any process would take n therbligs. The idea was to minimize your therbligs.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, l'orologio e fermo at July 10, 2024
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I think those started earlier. Frank Gilbreth, the father in the Cheaper By the Dozen memoir, was a pioneer in time and motion studies. He named the smallest step in any process after himself in reverse (sort of), the "therblig." Any process would take n therbligs. The idea was to minimize your therbligs.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (J2vNu)
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128 Socrates discussed this in his Apology. (The word meant "defense" back then, not confession.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (1bNHn)
Apologia, if you will.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (1bNHn)
Apologia, if you will.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (9mfKN)
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Citing unnamed 'senior US intelligence officials,' the Journal writes:
The officials didn’t mention Trump by name, but said that Russia’s current activity—described as covert social-media use and other online propaganda efforts—mirrored the 2020 and 2016 election cycles, when Moscow also favored Trump and sought to undermine Democratic candidates, according to U.S. intelligence agencies.
.. if these intelligence officials are unnamed, then they have no intelligence
The officials didn’t mention Trump by name, but said that Russia’s current activity—described as covert social-media use and other online propaganda efforts—mirrored the 2020 and 2016 election cycles, when Moscow also favored Trump and sought to undermine Democratic candidates, according to U.S. intelligence agencies.
.. if these intelligence officials are unnamed, then they have no intelligence
Posted by: SMOD at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (RHGPo)
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123 Oh, don't be such a prima donna.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
asshole.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (Zz0t1)
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Well, I never...
*faints, aghast*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
asshole.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (Zz0t1)
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Well, I never...
*faints, aghast*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (/7KEl)
Posted by: anachronda at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (oY6Yp)
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There's a good Clifton Webb movie where he portrays a time-and-motion dude.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024
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That was it, Cheaper By the Dozen.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024
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That was it, Cheaper By the Dozen.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (J2vNu)
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I will take this opportunity to thank the Horde for all the diverse knowledge and experience that shows up in the posts and comments.
I have led, it seems, a very sheltered life- never worked at a career or had to deal with the vicissitudes of the "real world". I am amazed and thankful for all the things y'all are good at and the information and commentary that you share.
Y'all are truly a National Treasure.
I have led, it seems, a very sheltered life- never worked at a career or had to deal with the vicissitudes of the "real world". I am amazed and thankful for all the things y'all are good at and the information and commentary that you share.
Y'all are truly a National Treasure.
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (y7DxH)
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We had a management consultancy come into my last place of work.
They set up a time tracking system that was supposedly designed to increase productivity over time.
It was an administrative nightmare just to maintain. We were something like 9 months into the contract when one of the directors asked for an opinion from a very large room. "Raise your hand if you think we should get rid of this."
The entire room raised their hand.
The consultancy guy was in the room next to the director. His face was something else in that moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
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In those situations where expensive, complicated new systems are implemented -- of any type -- it's usually the IT guy who is getting bribed by outside vendors to buy and maintain the expensive, complicated system. The workers will get shafted. The company will get nothing out of it but headaches. The IT guy will get superbowl tickets with a side of hookers and blow.
They set up a time tracking system that was supposedly designed to increase productivity over time.
It was an administrative nightmare just to maintain. We were something like 9 months into the contract when one of the directors asked for an opinion from a very large room. "Raise your hand if you think we should get rid of this."
The entire room raised their hand.
The consultancy guy was in the room next to the director. His face was something else in that moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
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In those situations where expensive, complicated new systems are implemented -- of any type -- it's usually the IT guy who is getting bribed by outside vendors to buy and maintain the expensive, complicated system. The workers will get shafted. The company will get nothing out of it but headaches. The IT guy will get superbowl tickets with a side of hookers and blow.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (iFTx/)
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I'm more of a minor donna.
Posted by: Lower tier Donna at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (tNgW5)
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110 "Was this one of those "Time and Motion" studies/fads that had a brief show in the second half of the 20th century?"
That was the big hotness in early 20th C.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea
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Still a valid area of study but the studies got worse as they became more squishy in nature.
Kuhn's paradigms have basically been ignored by natural scientists but social scientists found the concept useful as it explains how academic fads rise and fall (hopefully leaving something useful in their wake). Basically the pioneers usually come up with some useful observations but over time mediocrity then mendaciousness tends to overtake a particular field as often the unsavory get involved. Just like muggers don't hang out where there are no victims, sociopaths move into toward area of society that are flourishing, not declining segments of society.
That was the big hotness in early 20th C.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea
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Still a valid area of study but the studies got worse as they became more squishy in nature.
Kuhn's paradigms have basically been ignored by natural scientists but social scientists found the concept useful as it explains how academic fads rise and fall (hopefully leaving something useful in their wake). Basically the pioneers usually come up with some useful observations but over time mediocrity then mendaciousness tends to overtake a particular field as often the unsavory get involved. Just like muggers don't hang out where there are no victims, sociopaths move into toward area of society that are flourishing, not declining segments of society.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (mIs2x)
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mirrored the 2020 and 2016 election cycles, when Moscow also favored Trump and sought to undermine Democratic candidates, according to U.S. intelligence agencies.
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Putin has said multiple times he preferred/prefers both Hillary and Biden to be in office.
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Putin has said multiple times he preferred/prefers both Hillary and Biden to be in office.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (CIS44)
141
Wait. Freud had a hippo act?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (hY4dx)
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124 There's a good Clifton Webb movie where he portrays a time-and-motion dude.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (CgbEA)
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Cheaper By The Dozen. Frank Gilbreth, the author, was noted for that. I have one of his professional books, too. (Sequel was Belles on Their Toes was the sequel.)
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (CgbEA)
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Cheaper By The Dozen. Frank Gilbreth, the author, was noted for that. I have one of his professional books, too. (Sequel was Belles on Their Toes was the sequel.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (1bNHn)
Posted by: Jim at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (kQgoX)
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137 In those situations where expensive, complicated new systems are implemented -- of any type -- it's usually the IT guy who is getting bribed by outside vendors to buy and maintain the expensive, complicated system. The workers will get shafted. The company will get nothing out of it but headaches. The IT guy will get superbowl tickets with a side of hookers and blow.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (iFTx/)
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I seem to remember there was talk of piloting the system with one team, but suddenly it was the entire organization (professional services) that got it all at once.
We had lull times, and very, very busy times. When we began to hit up against the very, very busy time of the year, it all collapsed.
But yeah, I'd be surprised if the consultancy hadn't sweetened the pot for someone high up to bypass the pilot stage.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (iFTx/)
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I seem to remember there was talk of piloting the system with one team, but suddenly it was the entire organization (professional services) that got it all at once.
We had lull times, and very, very busy times. When we began to hit up against the very, very busy time of the year, it all collapsed.
But yeah, I'd be surprised if the consultancy hadn't sweetened the pot for someone high up to bypass the pilot stage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
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Putin has said multiple times he preferred/prefers both Hillary and Biden to be in office.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (CIS44)
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All a smokescreen in front of the 14-dimensional chess-backgammon game!!!!
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (CIS44)
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All a smokescreen in front of the 14-dimensional chess-backgammon game!!!!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (3Fz6p)
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An excellent H. Beam Piper short story, possibly one of his best, is Omnilingual that highlights the difference between a true expert and a credentialed one.
True experts have less fear about being wrong than not knowing about a phenomenon. Credentialled 'experts' always play to the other elites and public for fame, money, and pleasure of being the head cheese.
True experts have less fear about being wrong than not knowing about a phenomenon. Credentialled 'experts' always play to the other elites and public for fame, money, and pleasure of being the head cheese.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (mIs2x)
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Boeing is now including a roll of duct tape with every aircraft sale, so my money is on Biden leaving.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (hY4dx)
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I can just imagine the size of that roll!
Boeing is now including a roll of duct tape with every aircraft sale, so my money is on Biden leaving.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 10, 2024 11:26 AM (hY4dx)
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I can just imagine the size of that roll!
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, il nastro adesivo e finito at July 10, 2024 11:36 AM (qfLjt)
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84 78 Well I've done my share of asking 'diversified' idiots how does skin color, sex or social status influence decision making in basic scientific research (not applied) but cannot ever get a coherent answer, most times no answer at all.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, e marrone e femina at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (qfLjt)
Easy - “Black Girl Magic”. Duh.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July
I like to be an example to flummox people, especially because I was HR, so it was doubly interesting to me. Maybe not necessarily scientific research, but anything. The premise seemed to default to be quotas, which are illegal. I would ask how they would know to fill their quota. There was a lot of “well duh” stares. I asked how they would categorize me. Red hair, green eyes, glow in the dark skin. White as white can be, right? Wrong. I have a tribal card. Now, I am 1/2 French, a lot of English, but a decent amount of Native American (my great grandfather). And y’all just discriminated against me. 😂 It’s all stupid. I said it then, and I say it now. Hire the smartest one, and don’t worry about the packaging.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, e marrone e femina at July 10, 2024 11:21 AM (qfLjt)
Easy - “Black Girl Magic”. Duh.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July
I like to be an example to flummox people, especially because I was HR, so it was doubly interesting to me. Maybe not necessarily scientific research, but anything. The premise seemed to default to be quotas, which are illegal. I would ask how they would know to fill their quota. There was a lot of “well duh” stares. I asked how they would categorize me. Red hair, green eyes, glow in the dark skin. White as white can be, right? Wrong. I have a tribal card. Now, I am 1/2 French, a lot of English, but a decent amount of Native American (my great grandfather). And y’all just discriminated against me. 😂 It’s all stupid. I said it then, and I say it now. Hire the smartest one, and don’t worry about the packaging.
Posted by: Piper at July 10, 2024 11:36 AM (p4NUW)
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I feel similarly about 'pundits' and 'divas.'
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
I loved when Biden called in to Morning Joe and said “I’m getting so frustrated by the elites — not you guys..."
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
I loved when Biden called in to Morning Joe and said “I’m getting so frustrated by the elites — not you guys..."
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 10, 2024 11:36 AM (JCZqz)
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"... Depends how bloated the executive ranks are. At a lot of big companies, they're very bloated. In any creative population, approximately the square root of the population is responsible for more than half the output (Price's Law, but can be approximated with the "80/20 rule" that often serves to get into the ballpark). The average is dragged down by the dead weight and if you have seriously bloated ranks, most of them are almost-certainly useless. ..."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)"
Sounds like it's pretty typical to be pretty bloated, so I guess that supports my point. If most of them are useless, it doesn't really matter what color they are, or what sexual deviancy they exhibit.
My example was a giant defense contractor, BTW.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)"
Sounds like it's pretty typical to be pretty bloated, so I guess that supports my point. If most of them are useless, it doesn't really matter what color they are, or what sexual deviancy they exhibit.
My example was a giant defense contractor, BTW.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:37 AM (hOOi9)
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I think it was Gilbreth who, when he went into a factory, asked to watch the laziest man there.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2024 11:37 AM (1bNHn)
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I've worked with credentialed people before... PhD's. They were "smart" in very narrow fields of study... very narrow. Their ability to speak beyond that narrow area of interest was minimal at best.
They also were unable to navigate most daily tasks, such as using a coffee machine, tying shoe laces, operating any mechanical device, etc.
Experts. One and all.
They also were unable to navigate most daily tasks, such as using a coffee machine, tying shoe laces, operating any mechanical device, etc.
Experts. One and all.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 11:37 AM (Q4IgG)
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I just remember having to track every 15 minutes of time in real time.
I heard of a law firm in Portland that required that their attorneys bill in five minute increments.
I heard of a law firm in Portland that required that their attorneys bill in five minute increments.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:37 AM (uxCna)
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I think it was Gilbreth who, when he went into a factory, asked to watch the laziest man there.
Posted by: Eeyore
So the manager...
Posted by: Eeyore
So the manager...
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:37 AM (CIS44)
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True experts have less fear about being wrong than not knowing about a phenomenon. Credentialled 'experts' always play to the other elites and public for fame, money, and pleasure of being the head cheese.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (mIs2x)
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*cough* michael mann *cough*
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (mIs2x)
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*cough* michael mann *cough*
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 10, 2024 11:38 AM (3Fz6p)
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Webb and Stanwyck "Titanic" (1953). Also recommended.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:38 AM (CgbEA)
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Even the old school WWE Divas division with the Bellas and Trish Stratus?!
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:31 AM (CIS44)
Never watched it, but likely since there would be incredibly few exceptions for the word not being annoying.......
And it became annoying because of it's overuse and incorrect actual use, so.......
Like, literally.......
Even the old school WWE Divas division with the Bellas and Trish Stratus?!
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:31 AM (CIS44)
Never watched it, but likely since there would be incredibly few exceptions for the word not being annoying.......
And it became annoying because of it's overuse and incorrect actual use, so.......
Like, literally.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Low hanging at July 10, 2024 11:38 AM (tNgW5)
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“Science is the organized skepticism in the reliability of expert opinion.” ― Richard Feynman
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at July 10, 2024 11:38 AM (XeU6L)
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Sounds like it's pretty typical to be pretty bloated, so I guess that supports my point. If most of them are useless, it doesn't really matter what color they are, or what sexual deviancy they exhibit. ...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:37 AM (hOOi9)
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Yes, and satisfying "DEI requirements" and the like lead to a tremendous amount of executive bloat. Those positions have to be created.
At best, it just contributes to bloat and therefore lower average efficiency (you pay them to do nothing but show up). At worst, it destroys things because you created a position for a revolutionary and then paid him to do real work to blow up your organization.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:37 AM (hOOi9)
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Yes, and satisfying "DEI requirements" and the like lead to a tremendous amount of executive bloat. Those positions have to be created.
At best, it just contributes to bloat and therefore lower average efficiency (you pay them to do nothing but show up). At worst, it destroys things because you created a position for a revolutionary and then paid him to do real work to blow up your organization.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:39 AM (HnUIn)
Posted by: anachronda at July 10, 2024 11:39 AM (oY6Yp)
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I once told a 4 star that a 3 star's pet "managerial hours tracking" program was garbage in front of all the officers on base. There was some shock from the 4 star b/c he'd never heard there was any issues at all...and I got to share more of the issues right then.
I was a 1LT getting promoted to Cpt. I was leaving in 6 months.
I did get that program killed that year. It was a blessing.
(After the event, I did have a lot of junior folks both thank me and express disbelief that I said anything - I said why wouldn't we say anything when it was an expensive piece of garbage making our jobs harder - this may be why I was separating from the military - wrong mindset
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I was a 1LT getting promoted to Cpt. I was leaving in 6 months.
I did get that program killed that year. It was a blessing.
(After the event, I did have a lot of junior folks both thank me and express disbelief that I said anything - I said why wouldn't we say anything when it was an expensive piece of garbage making our jobs harder - this may be why I was separating from the military - wrong mindset
...Posted by: Nova Local at July 10, 2024 11:39 AM (exHjb)
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Pedant Mode ON:
In fact, the books about the Gilbreath family were written by two of the older daughters.
It is interesting that his wife not only contributed to his research, but also carried it on after his death.
PM OFF.
In fact, the books about the Gilbreath family were written by two of the older daughters.
It is interesting that his wife not only contributed to his research, but also carried it on after his death.
PM OFF.
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 11:39 AM (y7DxH)
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Cheaper By The Dozen. Frank Gilbreth, the author, was noted for that. I have one of his professional books, too. (Sequel was Belles on Their Toes was the sequel.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2024
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I think the book of CbtD was written by one or two of his kids as a memoir. There is a funny scene where the local head of whatever was equivalent to Planned Parenthood then, the Family Plannng Drive or something, comes to recruit Mrs. Gilbreth. During the scene all twelve of her kids come into the room. With each new child's appearance the woman gets paler and paler . . .
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2024
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I think the book of CbtD was written by one or two of his kids as a memoir. There is a funny scene where the local head of whatever was equivalent to Planned Parenthood then, the Family Plannng Drive or something, comes to recruit Mrs. Gilbreth. During the scene all twelve of her kids come into the room. With each new child's appearance the woman gets paler and paler . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:39 AM (J2vNu)
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There's a good Clifton Webb movie where he portrays a time-and-motion dude.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake
Clifton Webb was a hoot. His Mr. Belvedere series is well worth watching. Basically the same persona as Mr. Hand (Ray Walston). Re. Mr. Hand, saw an interview with Ray's daughter (post mortem) and she said you saw Ray's basic personality and behavior in his Mr. Hand portrayal. Did not suffer fools gladly but had an overall core of human decency and sly humor.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake
Clifton Webb was a hoot. His Mr. Belvedere series is well worth watching. Basically the same persona as Mr. Hand (Ray Walston). Re. Mr. Hand, saw an interview with Ray's daughter (post mortem) and she said you saw Ray's basic personality and behavior in his Mr. Hand portrayal. Did not suffer fools gladly but had an overall core of human decency and sly humor.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:39 AM (mIs2x)
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IT'S OVER FOR JOE
BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Zombie Walt Disney at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (w9Wax)
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134 54 Ya know who else's papers are secret? Freud's
that's because of the hippo act, isn't it?
Posted by: anachronda
Old Man Freud would never come here, but his id knows these places like the back of his hand
that's because of the hippo act, isn't it?
Posted by: anachronda
Old Man Freud would never come here, but his id knows these places like the back of his hand
Posted by: Fredo Corleone at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (JCZqz)
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166 IT'S OVER FOR JOE
BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)
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But he has a team.
BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)
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But he has a team.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
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131 Citing unnamed 'senior US intelligence officials,' the Journal writes:
The officials didn’t mention Trump by name, but said that Russia’s current activity—described as covert social-media use and other online propaganda efforts—mirrored the 2020 and 2016 election cycles, when Moscow also favored Trump and sought to undermine Democratic candidates, according to U.S. intelligence agencies.
.. if these intelligence officials are unnamed, then they have no intelligence
Posted by: SMOD at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (RHGPo)
C'mon, Fat! Of course those "intelligence officials" have such important covert careers that they can't be named lest they be attacked by hordes of nameless assassins.
The officials didn’t mention Trump by name, but said that Russia’s current activity—described as covert social-media use and other online propaganda efforts—mirrored the 2020 and 2016 election cycles, when Moscow also favored Trump and sought to undermine Democratic candidates, according to U.S. intelligence agencies.
.. if these intelligence officials are unnamed, then they have no intelligence
Posted by: SMOD at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (RHGPo)
C'mon, Fat! Of course those "intelligence officials" have such important covert careers that they can't be named lest they be attacked by hordes of nameless assassins.
Posted by: Octochicken at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (oCS0o)
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But he has a team.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
But also if you elect Trump you are electing an all powerful tyrant that will kill us, not a team.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
But also if you elect Trump you are electing an all powerful tyrant that will kill us, not a team.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:41 AM (CIS44)
Posted by: muldoon at July 10, 2024 11:41 AM (uCfKO)
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It Looks Like Mad Maxine Put Her Wig On Backwards
https://tinyurl.com/bddrjp3e
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (/7KEl)
Another annoying thing about modern media.
Ask the damn question. I don't need you rambling on for 3 minutes, then waiting for a response to whatever the f*ck it is you just said..........
That being said, I would've stopped and asked her if everything was OK and if she needed a moment to collect herself. Holy CRAP that was distracting.
https://tinyurl.com/bddrjp3e
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (/7KEl)
Another annoying thing about modern media.
Ask the damn question. I don't need you rambling on for 3 minutes, then waiting for a response to whatever the f*ck it is you just said..........
That being said, I would've stopped and asked her if everything was OK and if she needed a moment to collect herself. Holy CRAP that was distracting.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)
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I've heard that McKinsey's business model is to keep half of their people, and encourage the other half of their people to go directly work for clients, so they will be able to hire McKinsey.
The one person I know who worked for McKinsey bounced from McKinsey to a very senior position at a big tech company, and then back to McKinsey.
The one person I know who worked for McKinsey bounced from McKinsey to a very senior position at a big tech company, and then back to McKinsey.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:41 AM (uxCna)
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The average is dragged down by the dead weight and if you have seriously bloated ranks, most of them are almost-certainly useless. ...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)
Nonsense.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)
Nonsense.
Posted by: Columbia University at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (d9fT1)
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The one person I know who worked for McKinsey bounced from McKinsey to a very senior position at a big tech company, and then back to McKinsey.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:41 AM (uxCna)
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A lot of business consultancy is a big racket.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:41 AM (uxCna)
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A lot of business consultancy is a big racket.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (HnUIn)
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Bet Clokney and Robert's would like to have some of those millions back
Posted by: Ben Had at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (5MvGY)
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BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)
BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney can EABOD.
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)
BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney can EABOD.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)
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171 But he has a team.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
But also if you elect Trump you are electing an all powerful tyrant that will kill us, not a team.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:41 AM (CIS44)
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Trump's Team is Project 2025! Don't read it, though. Trust us that it's full of mandatory menstruation passports for all women.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
But also if you elect Trump you are electing an all powerful tyrant that will kill us, not a team.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 11:41 AM (CIS44)
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Trump's Team is Project 2025! Don't read it, though. Trust us that it's full of mandatory menstruation passports for all women.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
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Have to admit, younger Kamala looks pretty good in the photo he posted: https://tinyurl.com/2pmjhkj9
Interestingly, I couldn't find the photo he used on Google...but using the same keywords, had no trouble finding it on Bing lol.
Posted by: Intercepted SaltyVoter Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (JCZqz)
She looks mighty white in that photo.
Interestingly, I couldn't find the photo he used on Google...but using the same keywords, had no trouble finding it on Bing lol.
Posted by: Intercepted SaltyVoter Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (JCZqz)
She looks mighty white in that photo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (/lvBc)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (kwfp9)
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AI sez "Belvedere Rings the Bell is a 1951 American comedy film, the third and final one starring Clifton Webb as Lynn Belvedere. It follows on from Sitting Pretty (194
and Mr. Belvedere Goes to College (1949)."
Added to my list, thanks!
and Mr. Belvedere Goes to College (1949)."
Added to my list, thanks!
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:43 AM (CgbEA)
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*cough* michael mann *cough*
Posted by: Captain Obvious
Yep. Michael A. Bellesiles, Paul Krugman, etc are examples that embraced charlatanism instead of the obscurity of an academic. Tom Nichols as well.
Our elite class eats up that crap produced by the 'public' intellectual and fetes them in Vanity Fair, NYT, WaPo, etc.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
Yep. Michael A. Bellesiles, Paul Krugman, etc are examples that embraced charlatanism instead of the obscurity of an academic. Tom Nichols as well.
Our elite class eats up that crap produced by the 'public' intellectual and fetes them in Vanity Fair, NYT, WaPo, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:43 AM (mIs2x)
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Is anyone here a marine pachyotherapist?
Posted by: Larry David at July 10, 2024 11:43 AM (tNgW5)
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In those situations where expensive, complicated new systems are implemented -- of any type -- it's usually the IT guy who is getting bribed by outside vendors to buy and maintain the expensive, complicated system. The workers will get shafted. The company will get nothing out of it but headaches. The IT guy will get superbowl tickets with a side of hookers and blow.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (iFTx/)
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We had lull times, and very, very busy times. When we began to hit up against the very, very busy time of the year, it all collapsed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
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Stupidly complex billing systems were all the rage at big law firms in the early 2000s. It was sold as a benefit to clients, who could (in theory) track legal fees and expenses with great detail. Some clients did press for it. Until it was actually implemented. It required all kinds of entry of codes for this or that type of work on this or that type of matter. There were literally like 100 codes and many were for basically the same thing. Everyone hated it, even the clients. Lotsa money down the crapper
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (iFTx/)
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We had lull times, and very, very busy times. When we began to hit up against the very, very busy time of the year, it all collapsed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
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Stupidly complex billing systems were all the rage at big law firms in the early 2000s. It was sold as a benefit to clients, who could (in theory) track legal fees and expenses with great detail. Some clients did press for it. Until it was actually implemented. It required all kinds of entry of codes for this or that type of work on this or that type of matter. There were literally like 100 codes and many were for basically the same thing. Everyone hated it, even the clients. Lotsa money down the crapper
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:43 AM (iFTx/)
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This blonde with underboob asserts no particular expertise:
http://tiny.cc/lmg3zz
http://tiny.cc/lmg3zz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:43 AM (HnUIn)
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I'm late to the party again.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2024 11:43 AM (kwfp9)
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I loved when Biden called in to Morning Joe and said “I’m getting so frustrated by the elites — not you guys..."
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 10, 2024 11:36 AM (JCZqz)
Yes. It was a spectacular kick to the crotch for BOTH the Mika twins.
I loved when Biden called in to Morning Joe and said “I’m getting so frustrated by the elites — not you guys..."
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 10, 2024 11:36 AM (JCZqz)
Yes. It was a spectacular kick to the crotch for BOTH the Mika twins.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)
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She looks mighty white in that photo.
When Kamala ran for Senate, she ran as an "Indian-American".
When Kamala ran for Senate, she ran as an "Indian-American".
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:44 AM (uxCna)
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Webb and Stanwyck "Titanic" (1953). Also recommended.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024
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Webb was amazing. Came to movies rather late in his life after acting (maybe even dancing?) on stage. He usually played stuffy or prissy types, but he did it so well. His Mr. Belvedere character (later resurrected for TV, remember?) appeared in three movies, I think, and by the end of each film you really liked and approved of the man.
His peak was playing Elliott Templeton, the snobs' snob, in [iThe Razor's Edge w/ Tyrone Power.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024
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Webb was amazing. Came to movies rather late in his life after acting (maybe even dancing?) on stage. He usually played stuffy or prissy types, but he did it so well. His Mr. Belvedere character (later resurrected for TV, remember?) appeared in three movies, I think, and by the end of each film you really liked and approved of the man.
His peak was playing Elliott Templeton, the snobs' snob, in [iThe Razor's Edge w/ Tyrone Power.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:44 AM (J2vNu)
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She looks mighty white in that photo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (/lvBc)
Not a lot of sunshine under a desk.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (/lvBc)
Not a lot of sunshine under a desk.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:44 AM (9mfKN)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:44 AM (KRG3V)
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"... True experts have less fear about being wrong than not knowing about a phenomenon. Credentialled 'experts' always play to the other elites and public for fame, money, and pleasure of being the head cheese."
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (mIs2x)
Aren't "true experts" afraid about "not knowing a phenomenon" precisely because it's the main thing that might cause them to be wrong?
Maybe you're saying that they don't worry so much about simply making a mistake in their figuring. They know how to do it so as to minimize human error.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:35 AM (mIs2x)
Aren't "true experts" afraid about "not knowing a phenomenon" precisely because it's the main thing that might cause them to be wrong?
Maybe you're saying that they don't worry so much about simply making a mistake in their figuring. They know how to do it so as to minimize human error.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:44 AM (hOOi9)
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This blonde with underboob asserts no particular expertise:
http://tiny.cc/lmg3zz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024
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Sara Jean Underwood of Playboy fame!
http://tiny.cc/lmg3zz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024
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Sara Jean Underwood of Playboy fame!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:45 AM (J2vNu)
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> IT'S OVER FOR JOE
BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
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Well, if an expert in politics like George Clooney says it...
BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
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Well, if an expert in politics like George Clooney says it...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)
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True experts look at situations and, when wrong, change their way of thinking to plan for future events.
Other approaches are not taken by experts but by shysters.
Other approaches are not taken by experts but by shysters.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:46 AM (KRG3V)
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Depends how bloated the executive ranks are.
If those 6% betting Hillary will be the nominee are correct...well, whether Trump OR Hillary is elected, the executive is going to be bloated.
If those 6% betting Hillary will be the nominee are correct...well, whether Trump OR Hillary is elected, the executive is going to be bloated.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 10, 2024 11:46 AM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Most guys at July 10, 2024 11:47 AM (tNgW5)
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Well, if an expert in politics like George Clooney says it...
Posted by: Martini Farmer
... then that's a message from Hollywood and its donor-class.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
... then that's a message from Hollywood and its donor-class.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 10, 2024 11:47 AM (gKWVE)
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AI sez "Belvedere Rings the Bell is a 1951 American comedy film, the third and final one starring Clifton Webb as Lynn Belvedere. It follows on from Sitting Pretty (194 and Mr. Belvedere Goes to College (1949)."
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Added to my list, thanks!
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 202
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I've seen the college one, I think. Just about as far from Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School as you can imagine, but fun.
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Added to my list, thanks!
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 202
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I've seen the college one, I think. Just about as far from Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School as you can imagine, but fun.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:47 AM (J2vNu)
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Stupidly complex billing systems were all the rage at big law firms in the early 2000s. It was sold as a benefit to clients, who could (in theory) track legal fees and expenses with great detail. Some clients did press for it. Until it was actually implemented. It required all kinds of entry of codes for this or that type of work on this or that type of matter. There were literally like 100 codes and many were for basically the same thing. Everyone hated it, even the clients. Lotsa money down the crapper
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Reminds me of People Soft crapware for travel reimbursements that I was required to use at one time and it was coupled with an equally horrendous in house travel reservation portal.
Someone got paid out of all of that rubbish but at the expense of usability and and higher costs.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Reminds me of People Soft crapware for travel reimbursements that I was required to use at one time and it was coupled with an equally horrendous in house travel reservation portal.
Someone got paid out of all of that rubbish but at the expense of usability and and higher costs.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:47 AM (mIs2x)
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"The Razor's Edge" (1946), added to my list, thanks!
youtube.com/watch?v=owVRxX3xeVA
youtube.com/watch?v=owVRxX3xeVA
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:47 AM (CgbEA)
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BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)
Quote: "It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe 'big f***ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)
Quote: "It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe 'big f***ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 11:48 AM (jGGMD)
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BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
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Well, if an expert in politics like George Clooney says it...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)
Shorter clooney..DO OVER!
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
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Well, if an expert in politics like George Clooney says it...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)
Shorter clooney..DO OVER!
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 10, 2024 11:48 AM (OiAR7)
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>>The officials didn’t mention Trump by name, but said that Russia’s current activity—described as covert social-media use and other online propaganda efforts—mirrored the 2020 and 2016 election cycles, when Moscow also favored Trump and sought to undermine Democratic candidates
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do these intelligence officials know or can explain why Putin would favor a hardass like Trump, sure to be confrontational, over a crew of wishy washy Democrats that won't do fuckall to thwart his ambitions?
Putin wants America to elect an idiot, a weakling
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do these intelligence officials know or can explain why Putin would favor a hardass like Trump, sure to be confrontational, over a crew of wishy washy Democrats that won't do fuckall to thwart his ambitions?
Putin wants America to elect an idiot, a weakling
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:48 AM (/7KEl)
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Quote: "It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe 'big f***ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 11:48 AM (jGGMD)
OOF. When Joe’s lucid, that quote will feel like a kick to the balls.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 11:48 AM (jGGMD)
OOF. When Joe’s lucid, that quote will feel like a kick to the balls.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (9mfKN)
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This blonde with underboob asserts no particular expertise:
http://tiny.cc/lmg3zz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024
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Sara Jean Underwood of Playboy fame!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
She brings the underboob, and I'll bring the underwood, thanks.
http://tiny.cc/lmg3zz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024
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Sara Jean Underwood of Playboy fame!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
She brings the underboob, and I'll bring the underwood, thanks.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (JCZqz)
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"The Razor's Edge" (1946), added to my list, thanks!
youtube.com/watch?v=owVRxX3xeVA
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:47 AM (CgbEA)
Much shorter and more entertaining.......
https://youtu.be/l_7SxoQW11g
youtube.com/watch?v=owVRxX3xeVA
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:47 AM (CgbEA)
Much shorter and more entertaining.......
https://youtu.be/l_7SxoQW11g
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)
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This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: Underboob blondes at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (tNgW5)
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Have to admit, younger Kamala looks pretty good in the photo he posted: https://tinyurl.com/2pmjhkj9
Interestingly, I couldn't find the photo he used on Google...but using the same keywords, had no trouble finding it on Bing lol.
Posted by: Intercepted SaltyVoter Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (JCZqz)
She looks mighty white in that photo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (/lvBc)
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Kamala might be a stupid whore, but she was very attractive in her prime. That pic is from 1995. Willie Brown was a crooked degenerate pimp. But he knew a good-looking woman when he saw one, and he knew how to identify and entice the ones willing to suck dick in exchange for career advancement. He found that all in Kamala.
Interestingly, I couldn't find the photo he used on Google...but using the same keywords, had no trouble finding it on Bing lol.
Posted by: Intercepted SaltyVoter Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 10, 2024 11:30 AM (JCZqz)
She looks mighty white in that photo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (/lvBc)
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Kamala might be a stupid whore, but she was very attractive in her prime. That pic is from 1995. Willie Brown was a crooked degenerate pimp. But he knew a good-looking woman when he saw one, and he knew how to identify and entice the ones willing to suck dick in exchange for career advancement. He found that all in Kamala.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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"But why would the normals not? How much patience and credulity do the "experts" expect when they continuously fail?"
Ahhh lets be clear here... there are two groups we're talking about. Over-credentialed NPC's with 115 IQ's who think they're a lot smarter than they are, but are just herd followers... and those that, whether smart or just cunning, actually know what they're doing. The latter are prog true believers and as such they understand that their ideology rejects objective reality in the first place, which sort of renders "expertise" moot.
In prog-land, you either jockey with other progs in dictating reality, climb the ladder by being a hatchetman for the first group, or curry favor by frantically following along. Or you're in the fourth group, non-prog cattle.
Ahhh lets be clear here... there are two groups we're talking about. Over-credentialed NPC's with 115 IQ's who think they're a lot smarter than they are, but are just herd followers... and those that, whether smart or just cunning, actually know what they're doing. The latter are prog true believers and as such they understand that their ideology rejects objective reality in the first place, which sort of renders "expertise" moot.
In prog-land, you either jockey with other progs in dictating reality, climb the ladder by being a hatchetman for the first group, or curry favor by frantically following along. Or you're in the fourth group, non-prog cattle.
Posted by: somedood at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (SbE5e)
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Quote: "It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe 'big f***ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."
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So why did you wait until after the debates?
Quote: "It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe 'big f***ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."
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So why did you wait until after the debates?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (KRG3V)
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Be sure to ask those demanding Biden “Step down” if they are demanding he resign. They probably don’t know. Is he too feeble to remain president now? The next 6 months? How about the last 6 months?
“He has a Team”. Yeah - that isn’t how this works. Who is running the country? Not Biden.
Yeah, all the leftists are fine with this, because they are stupid. That doesn’t mean you have to be stupid.
“He has a Team”. Yeah - that isn’t how this works. Who is running the country? Not Biden.
Yeah, all the leftists are fine with this, because they are stupid. That doesn’t mean you have to be stupid.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (UTD5a)
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Quote: "It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe 'big f***ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 11:48 AM (
Yeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaa
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 11:48 AM (
Yeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaa
Posted by: Slim pickens at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (OiAR7)
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Congrats on the theory to practice proving racism is bad, guys. Dumb.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024 11:50 AM (B0mGw)
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BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
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As I said earlier, NOPE! You manufactured this braindead retard's first term, you get to KEEP him. No takebacks. No trade-ins.
Reap it, bitch.
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
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As I said earlier, NOPE! You manufactured this braindead retard's first term, you get to KEEP him. No takebacks. No trade-ins.
Reap it, bitch.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)
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Have to admit, younger Kamala looks pretty good in the photo he posted: https://tinyurl.com/2pmjhkj9
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That's how the wall works.
Even unattractive women are more attractive when they're young. 35 comes at them fast, though.
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That's how the wall works.
Even unattractive women are more attractive when they're young. 35 comes at them fast, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:50 AM (KRG3V)
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Scott Adams ("Dilbert") worked for the phone company in the 80s, and was told that he wouldn't be promoted because he was a white male.
This has been going on a long time.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Can you be a minority woman?
This has been going on a long time.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Can you be a minority woman?
Posted by: The Secret of My Success (1987) at July 10, 2024 11:50 AM (gKWVE)
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Merrick? I want that f***ing actor arrested! I want him strung up by his heels and waterboarded! I don't care how many friends he has with the Jews and the blacks, I want it done now!!!!
Posted by: "Doctor" Jill Biden at July 10, 2024 11:51 AM (jGGMD)
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Amanpour interview with Wesley Clark mirrors this piece. The both of them are vile pieces of shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 10, 2024 11:51 AM (qZEuM)
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I feel similarly about 'pundits' and 'divas.'
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
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Mine is 'star'. If you had a minute part in a movie, you're a star.
If you play for a professional sports team, you're a star.
etc. etc. etc. (Yul Brynner)
Funny how it only applies to professions where people 'play' something.
I feel similarly about 'pundits' and 'divas.'
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
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Mine is 'star'. If you had a minute part in a movie, you're a star.
If you play for a professional sports team, you're a star.
etc. etc. etc. (Yul Brynner)
Funny how it only applies to professions where people 'play' something.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, tutte le stelle fanno schifo at July 10, 2024 11:51 AM (qfLjt)
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"The Razor's Edge" (1946), added to my list, thanks!
youtube.com/watch?v=owVRxX3xeVA
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024
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I've seen the Power version; never have caught the one with Bill Murray from about 1986. (It's not a comedy.) Don't know who played Ultra Snob Elliott in that one.
youtube.com/watch?v=owVRxX3xeVA
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024
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I've seen the Power version; never have caught the one with Bill Murray from about 1986. (It's not a comedy.) Don't know who played Ultra Snob Elliott in that one.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:51 AM (J2vNu)
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Putin wants America to elect an idiot, a weakling
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Or, and stay with me on this, Russia is the same Russia that Hillary had a photo-op to "reset" our relations with and they're not our enemy and want a predictable, intelligent leader for everyone's benefit in world events.
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Or, and stay with me on this, Russia is the same Russia that Hillary had a photo-op to "reset" our relations with and they're not our enemy and want a predictable, intelligent leader for everyone's benefit in world events.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (KRG3V)
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Quote: "It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe 'big f***ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."
Joe Biden in 2020 was making up shit about Corn Pop and his hairy legs at the swimming pool. He couldn't complete a sentence at campaign rallies. He was exhibiting dementia with anger back then, fat dogfaced pony soldier.......
Joe Biden in 2020 was making up shit about Corn Pop and his hairy legs at the swimming pool. He couldn't complete a sentence at campaign rallies. He was exhibiting dementia with anger back then, fat dogfaced pony soldier.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (Zz0t1)
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And now, Bible study moment with the Reverend Oliver White . . .
Jeffrey: 'Do you disagree as a Christian minister with what is described as marriage in Genesis and what Jesus Himself describes as marriage? Do you disagree with that?'
White: 'Well yes I do, because I think the book of Genesis - '
Jeffrey: 'As a Christian minister, you disagree with Jesus on marriage?'
White: 'Right, say that again please.'
Jeffrey: 'Well Jesus, as you know, in the Gospels, said that a man and a woman should come together in marriage and be as one flesh. He personally, Jesus, our Christian Savior, defined marriage as a man and a woman. Do you disagree with the way that Jesus Christ defined marriage in the Gospels?'
White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Jeffrey: 'Do you disagree as a Christian minister with what is described as marriage in Genesis and what Jesus Himself describes as marriage? Do you disagree with that?'
White: 'Well yes I do, because I think the book of Genesis - '
Jeffrey: 'As a Christian minister, you disagree with Jesus on marriage?'
White: 'Right, say that again please.'
Jeffrey: 'Well Jesus, as you know, in the Gospels, said that a man and a woman should come together in marriage and be as one flesh. He personally, Jesus, our Christian Savior, defined marriage as a man and a woman. Do you disagree with the way that Jesus Christ defined marriage in the Gospels?'
White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
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OOF. When Joe’s lucid, that quote will feel like a kick to the balls.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (9mfKN)
Every morning when Joe wakes up it's like a fresh kick in the balls. Lol.
OOF. When Joe’s lucid, that quote will feel like a kick to the balls.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (9mfKN)
Every morning when Joe wakes up it's like a fresh kick in the balls. Lol.
Posted by: 50 first dates at July 10, 2024 11:53 AM (OiAR7)
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>I feel similarly about 'pundits' and 'divas.'
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
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most over-used word on the internet is...
'stunning'
everything is stunning
Those are words that turn me completely away in most cases.
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most over-used word on the internet is...
'stunning'
everything is stunning
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:53 AM (/7KEl)
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BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
Remember, his whore wife is leading the movement to prosecute Israeli leaders for war crimes.
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
Remember, his whore wife is leading the movement to prosecute Israeli leaders for war crimes.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 11:53 AM (uxCna)
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The internet largely destroyed the claims of the credentialed class to argue from authority.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at July 10, 2024 11:53 AM (wGerL)
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The both of them are vile pieces of shit.
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Which raises the question:
Are there pieces of shit that are NOT vile?
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Which raises the question:
Are there pieces of shit that are NOT vile?
Posted by: muldoon at July 10, 2024 11:53 AM (uCfKO)
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Oh -- it was Denholm Elliott playing the ultra snob in the Bill Murray Razor's Edge. You know him as Indiana Jones's dean or colleague in the first and third films.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 11:53 AM (J2vNu)
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Aren't "true experts" afraid about "not knowing a phenomenon" precisely because it's the main thing that might cause them to be wrong?
Maybe you're saying that they don't worry so much about simply making a mistake in their figuring. They know how to do it so as to minimize human error.
Posted by: MrExcitement
Nah. True empirical experts versus credentialed tend to have ideas about how the world works (impossible to be anything otherwise) but find enjoyment testing those ideas versus actual data.
Ideally, these are actually the ones that tenure is designed to protect because it can take a long time to actually gather data, analyze it, and then produce results. Most of the ones that I have encountered over the years freely admit mistakes, learning from those mistakes, and improving their ideas.
Theorists, on the other hand, I have found to be more rigid because they invest in the actual structure of the arguments over ideas and having no empirical results to mention, face academic life or death over their frameworks. Jobs are also more precious in those areas because the lack of outside opportunities commensurate with their self regard.
Maybe you're saying that they don't worry so much about simply making a mistake in their figuring. They know how to do it so as to minimize human error.
Posted by: MrExcitement
Nah. True empirical experts versus credentialed tend to have ideas about how the world works (impossible to be anything otherwise) but find enjoyment testing those ideas versus actual data.
Ideally, these are actually the ones that tenure is designed to protect because it can take a long time to actually gather data, analyze it, and then produce results. Most of the ones that I have encountered over the years freely admit mistakes, learning from those mistakes, and improving their ideas.
Theorists, on the other hand, I have found to be more rigid because they invest in the actual structure of the arguments over ideas and having no empirical results to mention, face academic life or death over their frameworks. Jobs are also more precious in those areas because the lack of outside opportunities commensurate with their self regard.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:54 AM (mIs2x)
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So why did you wait until after the debates?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (KRG3V)
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I, uh...had lactose reflux.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (KRG3V)
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I, uh...had lactose reflux.
Posted by: George Clooney at July 10, 2024 11:54 AM (3Fz6p)
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So Clooney's ideal Biden was a gaffe-prone retard who couldn't even stop himself being a foul-mouthed c*nt during a signing ceremony for his party's signature legislative "accomplishment".
Posted by: spindrift at July 10, 2024 11:54 AM (OguvZ)
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>and they're not our enemy and want a predictable, intelligent leader for everyone's benefit in world events.
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hmmm
NAAH
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hmmm
NAAH
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:54 AM (/7KEl)
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234 So Clooney's ideal Biden was a gaffe-prone retard who couldn't even stop himself being a foul-mouthed c*nt during a signing ceremony for his party's signature legislative "accomplishment".
Posted by: spindrift at July 10, 2024 11:54 AM (OguvZ)
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But he spoke better and wasn't Trump.
Posted by: spindrift at July 10, 2024 11:54 AM (OguvZ)
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But he spoke better and wasn't Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:55 AM (GBKbO)
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White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
Hahhahaha. What a fucking clown.
Hahhahaha. What a fucking clown.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 10, 2024 11:55 AM (qZEuM)
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But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
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uh...
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uh...
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:55 AM (SkCDA)
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"Cunning liars," or "cunning linguists?"
Posted by: Marooned at July 10, 2024 11:55 AM (kt8QE)
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White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
Jesus is alive today, and what he is saying is, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”
Jesus is alive today, and what he is saying is, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”
Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at July 10, 2024 11:55 AM (wGerL)
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228 BREAKING NEWS
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
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Clooney is past his sell by date. At least George Hamilton had his impeccable tan going for him.
George Clooney calls on Biden to STEP DOWN from the race and gives scathing review of debate performance
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Clooney is past his sell by date. At least George Hamilton had his impeccable tan going for him.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:55 AM (mIs2x)
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That's how the wall works.
Even unattractive women are more attractive when they're young. 35 comes at them fast, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:50 AM (KRG3V)
You bet your ass, they are all cute at 12
Even unattractive women are more attractive when they're young. 35 comes at them fast, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:50 AM (KRG3V)
You bet your ass, they are all cute at 12
Posted by: Barf Brandon at July 10, 2024 11:55 AM (NtVYv)
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36 I will take this opportunity to thank the Horde for all the diverse knowledge and experience that shows up in the posts and comments.
I have led, it seems, a very sheltered life- never worked at a career or had to deal with the vicissitudes of the "real world". I am amazed and thankful for all the things y'all are good at and the information and commentary that you share.
Y'all are truly a National Treasure.
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (y7DxH)
I nominate this for Comment of the Year!
I have led, it seems, a very sheltered life- never worked at a career or had to deal with the vicissitudes of the "real world". I am amazed and thankful for all the things y'all are good at and the information and commentary that you share.
Y'all are truly a National Treasure.
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (y7DxH)
I nominate this for Comment of the Year!
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AOS Ladies Brigade, Plucky Comic Relief at July 10, 2024 11:56 AM (SRRAx)
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>and they're not our enemy and want a predictable, intelligent leader for everyone's benefit in world events.
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hmmm
NAAH
Posted by: Don Black
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No, you're right. They're buying facebook ads to steal our elections!
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hmmm
NAAH
Posted by: Don Black
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No, you're right. They're buying facebook ads to steal our elections!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:56 AM (SkCDA)
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Jeffrey: 'Well Jesus, as you know, in the Gospels, said that a man and a woman should come together in marriage and be as one flesh. He personally, Jesus, our Christian Savior, defined marriage as a man and a woman. Do you disagree with the way that Jesus Christ defined marriage in the Gospels?'
White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
Example #436,089,076,043 of "The Ego of Man."
White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
Example #436,089,076,043 of "The Ego of Man."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)
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We’ve been hearing that diversity is our STRENGTH for decades, far before this McKinsey study.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 10, 2024 11:56 AM (0im+u)
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Which raises the question:
Are there pieces of shit that are NOT vile?
Posted by: muldoon at July 10, 2024 11:53 AM (uCfKO)
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The kind that you can pick up by the clean end?
Are there pieces of shit that are NOT vile?
Posted by: muldoon at July 10, 2024 11:53 AM (uCfKO)
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The kind that you can pick up by the clean end?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 10, 2024 11:56 AM (3Fz6p)
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They didn't have homosexuals or transsexuals in Roman days.
And Jesus Christ is the wisdom of God and is God and has been with God from the beginning. I don't think he was surprised by what is or is not sin.
And Jesus Christ is the wisdom of God and is God and has been with God from the beginning. I don't think he was surprised by what is or is not sin.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024 11:56 AM (B0mGw)
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He knew me before I was born, but He couldn't have anticipated the Rainbow Pride bunch.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:57 AM (SkCDA)
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225 And now, Bible study moment with the Reverend Oliver White . . .
Jeffrey: 'Do you disagree as a Christian minister with what is described as marriage in Genesis and what Jesus Himself describes as marriage? Do you disagree with that?'
White: 'Well yes I do, because I think the book of Genesis - '
Jeffrey: 'As a Christian minister, you disagree with Jesus on marriage?'
White: 'Right, say that again please.'
Jeffrey: 'Well Jesus, as you know, in the Gospels, said that a man and a woman should come together in marriage and be as one flesh. He personally, Jesus, our Christian Savior, defined marriage as a man and a woman. Do you disagree with the way that Jesus Christ defined marriage in the Gospels?'
White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
Anathema. Purge the heretic from the body.
Jeffrey: 'Do you disagree as a Christian minister with what is described as marriage in Genesis and what Jesus Himself describes as marriage? Do you disagree with that?'
White: 'Well yes I do, because I think the book of Genesis - '
Jeffrey: 'As a Christian minister, you disagree with Jesus on marriage?'
White: 'Right, say that again please.'
Jeffrey: 'Well Jesus, as you know, in the Gospels, said that a man and a woman should come together in marriage and be as one flesh. He personally, Jesus, our Christian Savior, defined marriage as a man and a woman. Do you disagree with the way that Jesus Christ defined marriage in the Gospels?'
White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
Anathema. Purge the heretic from the body.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 11:57 AM (9mfKN)
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>>> 73 Joey Chestnut Eats 200 Boneless Wings After Challenge From Buffalo Wild Wings
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
Is it gonna' be on Espn? It's gotta' be on Espn!
Posted by: BignJames at July 10, 2024 11:20 AM (AwYPR)
Brandon will mention this amazing feat of his in passing when he responds to OrangeManBad's charity golf challenge.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
Is it gonna' be on Espn? It's gotta' be on Espn!
Posted by: BignJames at July 10, 2024 11:20 AM (AwYPR)
Brandon will mention this amazing feat of his in passing when he responds to OrangeManBad's charity golf challenge.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 10, 2024 11:57 AM (VavZF)
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"Can you be a minority woman?
Posted by: The Secret of My Success (1987) at July 10, 2024 11:50 AM (gKWVE)"
Only if you had, or have, a dick. I know of companies boasting about *hundreds* of "female" employees making up ~40% of the company... and they have like 15 biological females. Actual women are bailing as fast as they can for a bunch of reasons; being un-promotable is one of them.
Posted by: The Secret of My Success (1987) at July 10, 2024 11:50 AM (gKWVE)"
Only if you had, or have, a dick. I know of companies boasting about *hundreds* of "female" employees making up ~40% of the company... and they have like 15 biological females. Actual women are bailing as fast as they can for a bunch of reasons; being un-promotable is one of them.
Posted by: somedood at July 10, 2024 11:57 AM (SbE5e)
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White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Judgment Day just might be a surprise for Mr. White. He may not go where he thinks he ought to go.
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Judgment Day just might be a surprise for Mr. White. He may not go where he thinks he ought to go.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:57 AM (mIs2x)
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245 Jeffrey: 'Well Jesus, as you know, in the Gospels, said that a man and a woman should come together in marriage and be as one flesh. He personally, Jesus, our Christian Savior, defined marriage as a man and a woman. Do you disagree with the way that Jesus Christ defined marriage in the Gospels?'
White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
Example #436,089,076,043 of "The Ego of Man."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)
Bingo bango. Takes a real high view of one's self to think they're more enlightened than Jesus Christ.
White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
Example #436,089,076,043 of "The Ego of Man."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)
Bingo bango. Takes a real high view of one's self to think they're more enlightened than Jesus Christ.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 10, 2024 11:58 AM (LDevB)
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I'll take the conclusion behind door number two, Monty.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 10, 2024 11:58 AM (Rbu5d)
256
The Chosen.
Posted by: Come and see at July 10, 2024 11:58 AM (tNgW5)
Posted by: brak at July 10, 2024 11:58 AM (AR07F)
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Quote: "It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe 'big f***ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."
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So why did you wait until after the debates?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (KRG3V)
Lol cause now everybody knows he knows.
Clooney cutting him off at the knees is brutal. Fun watching the dems break into two camps. The ones that support the current commi train wreck and the ones who want to move on to the next one.
Quote: "It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe 'big f***ing deal' Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate."
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So why did you wait until after the debates?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:49 AM (KRG3V)
Lol cause now everybody knows he knows.
Clooney cutting him off at the knees is brutal. Fun watching the dems break into two camps. The ones that support the current commi train wreck and the ones who want to move on to the next one.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 10, 2024 11:58 AM (OiAR7)
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Thank you, Teresa! I mean that comment from the bottom of my heart.
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 11:58 AM (y7DxH)
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (CgbEA)
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"... [Kamala] looks mighty white in that photo."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (/lvBc)
It's so racist, how they keep calling her "black". I guess "of color" applies, though. She's supposed to be half Indian (asian kind) and half Hispanic, right?
She doesn't look the least bit Indian to me, but I'm hardly an expert. Then again, you run into cases among these people - chosen by globalists to lead at high levels - where the children are obviously not biological offspring of the supposed parents (with not mention of being adopted). Does Obama look like his supposed father? No. Do either of the Obama daughters look a damn thing like their parents? No. How come Justin Trudeau looks like Fidel Castro (who his parents visited some months before he was born), and not a damn thing like his supposed father?
"Hispanic", however, is a mix of things, right? Mostly, it's Spanish immigration to Latin America - which is to say "white" - but with some amount of aboriginal and African ancestry mixed in. Or do I have that wrong?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2024 11:42 AM (/lvBc)
It's so racist, how they keep calling her "black". I guess "of color" applies, though. She's supposed to be half Indian (asian kind) and half Hispanic, right?
She doesn't look the least bit Indian to me, but I'm hardly an expert. Then again, you run into cases among these people - chosen by globalists to lead at high levels - where the children are obviously not biological offspring of the supposed parents (with not mention of being adopted). Does Obama look like his supposed father? No. Do either of the Obama daughters look a damn thing like their parents? No. How come Justin Trudeau looks like Fidel Castro (who his parents visited some months before he was born), and not a damn thing like his supposed father?
"Hispanic", however, is a mix of things, right? Mostly, it's Spanish immigration to Latin America - which is to say "white" - but with some amount of aboriginal and African ancestry mixed in. Or do I have that wrong?
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (hOOi9)
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"Judgment Day just might be a surprise for Mr. White. He may not go where he thinks he ought to go."
How did you get in here without a wedding garment?
How did you get in here without a wedding garment?
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (B0mGw)
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>>> Diversity Was Supposed to Make Us Rich. Not So Much.
A lot was pissed away trying to find the "Magic Negro"* to make everything awesome.
Or is this the poney in a pile of manure?
*Movie Trope #3
A lot was pissed away trying to find the "Magic Negro"* to make everything awesome.
Or is this the poney in a pile of manure?
*Movie Trope #3
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (6TUIG)
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White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
That, right there, is a specific denial of the Triune God, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Fucker is not a Christian.
https://is.gd/i0ZsXx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
That, right there, is a specific denial of the Triune God, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Fucker is not a Christian.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (/lvBc)
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Huh. Didn't expect Oliver White to be black. Makes sense in a way, though:
"When White, for 22 years the head of a small, predominately black church in St. Paul, Minnesota, stood up for gay marriage, most of his congregants left. With his financially ruined church lost to foreclosure and only a few believers by his side, White remains undeterred. Here is his story (as told to Jennie Rothenberg Gritz)."
https://tinyurl.com/2xs9gjp3
"When White, for 22 years the head of a small, predominately black church in St. Paul, Minnesota, stood up for gay marriage, most of his congregants left. With his financially ruined church lost to foreclosure and only a few believers by his side, White remains undeterred. Here is his story (as told to Jennie Rothenberg Gritz)."
https://tinyurl.com/2xs9gjp3
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (SkCDA)
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all seriousness aside- don't you think Putin might prefer a US President who is going to f*** everything up for his international rival?
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (/7KEl)
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256 The Chosen.
Posted by: Come and see
White is auditioning for a different series--the UnChosen.
Posted by: Come and see
White is auditioning for a different series--the UnChosen.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 12:00 PM (mIs2x)
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We have reached the stage that many old monarchies and empires reached before they fell, where we have a corrupt and ignorant ruling class which is completely out of touch with everything actually going on 10 feet outside their front doors.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:00 PM (wyMQY)
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I liked the parody video that was around years ago.
The idea in it was to force all politicians to wear the logos and brands of any corporation or lobbying group funding their campaigns.
Basically, we treat them like NASCAR drivers.
Now I don’t view it as parody but a serious proposal, and it would work on “experts” too.
Imagine if Fauci had to wear a giant Pfizer logo on his jacket in 2020 and you’ll see what I mean.
The idea in it was to force all politicians to wear the logos and brands of any corporation or lobbying group funding their campaigns.
Basically, we treat them like NASCAR drivers.
Now I don’t view it as parody but a serious proposal, and it would work on “experts” too.
Imagine if Fauci had to wear a giant Pfizer logo on his jacket in 2020 and you’ll see what I mean.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 10, 2024 12:00 PM (6ydKt)
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Thank you, Teresa! I mean that comment from the bottom of my heart.
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 11:58 AM (y7DxH)
Now none of these bastards are going to be able to get their heads through a door.......
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 11:58 AM (y7DxH)
Now none of these bastards are going to be able to get their heads through a door.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 12:00 PM (Zz0t1)
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120 I tried to shift the paradigm but somebody moved my cheese so I resorted to business reengineering.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (CgbEA)
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I looked up Time and Motion Studies:
From wiki "After its first introduction, time study developed in the direction of establishing standard times, while motion study evolved into a technique for improving work methods. The two techniques became integrated and refined into a widely accepted method applicable to the improvement and upgrading of work systems. This integrated approach to work system improvement is known as methods engineering and it is applied today to industrial as well as service organizations, including banks, schools and hospitals."
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 11:29 AM (CgbEA)
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I looked up Time and Motion Studies:
From wiki "After its first introduction, time study developed in the direction of establishing standard times, while motion study evolved into a technique for improving work methods. The two techniques became integrated and refined into a widely accepted method applicable to the improvement and upgrading of work systems. This integrated approach to work system improvement is known as methods engineering and it is applied today to industrial as well as service organizations, including banks, schools and hospitals."
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, tutti i capi sono stupidi at July 10, 2024 12:00 PM (qfLjt)
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White: 'I don't, I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. But what I do say is that if Jesus were alive today, I think He would be more inclined to say, "You know, I didn't know it all.'"
cut, jib, newsletter
cut, jib, newsletter
Posted by: Episcopal Church at July 10, 2024 12:00 PM (AR07F)
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Can you be a minority woman?
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You're asking about the group that makes up 51%+ of the U.S. population?
Shut up, they/them explained.
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You're asking about the group that makes up 51%+ of the U.S. population?
Shut up, they/them explained.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 12:01 PM (SkCDA)
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Far-left Hollywood star George Clooney has publicly urged Joe Biden to step down and not seek re-election, citing concerns over his age and recent public appearances.
Posted by: SMOD at July 10, 2024 12:01 PM (98r5m)
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She's supposed to be half Indian (asian kind) and half Hispanic, right?
Dot-Indian mother, black Jamaican father.
Both parents taught at elite universities - one of the fun parts about Kamala is watching her try to weave a tale of oppression with a mother who taught at Berkeley, and a father who still teaches at Stanford.
Dot-Indian mother, black Jamaican father.
Both parents taught at elite universities - one of the fun parts about Kamala is watching her try to weave a tale of oppression with a mother who taught at Berkeley, and a father who still teaches at Stanford.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 12:01 PM (uxCna)
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Imagine if Fauci had to wear a giant Pfizer logo on his jacket in 2020 and you’ll see what I mean.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
Itd be a pfizer logo, a chinese flag, and a us govt seal, literally nothing about being a doctor
Posted by: SpeakingOf
Itd be a pfizer logo, a chinese flag, and a us govt seal, literally nothing about being a doctor
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:02 PM (CIS44)
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all seriousness aside- don't you think Putin might prefer a US President who is going to f*** everything up for his international rival?
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (/7KEl)
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Not sure, at this point. In the Trump vs. Hillary thing, it was obvious that Putin would prefer Hillary unless the stronger preference was for chaos.
But the current presidentless Party-Bureaucratic politburo rule is so inconsistent and vague while still possessing a lot of legacy power. Very dangerous. A known but stable rival might be preferable. Not sure.
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (/7KEl)
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Not sure, at this point. In the Trump vs. Hillary thing, it was obvious that Putin would prefer Hillary unless the stronger preference was for chaos.
But the current presidentless Party-Bureaucratic politburo rule is so inconsistent and vague while still possessing a lot of legacy power. Very dangerous. A known but stable rival might be preferable. Not sure.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 12:02 PM (HnUIn)
278
I am miffed at the makers of The Chosen. New season requires I update my Eye Phone to view. There are no updates for Eye phone 6.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 10, 2024 12:02 PM (pohLc)
279
>>>They didn't have homosexuals or transsexuals in Roman days.
*Elagabalus has entered the chat*
*Elagabalus has entered the chat*
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:02 PM (jGGMD)
280
Wonder how our friends at DU are feeling with Clooney saying Joe’s cheese slipped off his cracker and slid out the front door.
Posted by: Piper at July 10, 2024 12:02 PM (p4NUW)
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Dot-Indian mother, black Jamaican father.
Both parents taught at elite universities - one of the fun parts about Kamala is watching her try to weave a tale of oppression with a mother who taught at Berkeley, and a father who still teaches at Stanford.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 12:01 PM (uxCna)
All while culturally appropriating the African-American plight........
Both parents taught at elite universities - one of the fun parts about Kamala is watching her try to weave a tale of oppression with a mother who taught at Berkeley, and a father who still teaches at Stanford.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 12:01 PM (uxCna)
All while culturally appropriating the African-American plight........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)
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McKinsey exists to help create a 'pretend' governing group and strategy for civil society. In other words, imho, it's a breeding ground, probably one of many similar.
Often, its very 'best' members wind up in - for example - Albright Stonebridge Group. And, "ASG, a foundational partner of DGA Group, is a leading provider of global strategic advisory and commercial diplomacy services."
McKinsey has long had exposed 'issues," i.e., Responsible Statecraft, 'The McKinsey consulting scandal you might not have heard about' The firm's work for both authoritarian governments and the Pentagon raises questions about conflicts of interest and harm to US security. Reporting | Middle East
Regions Middle East Conflicts Of Interest
Nick Cleveland-Stout, Feb 03, 2023
And yet, it is.
'When Pete Buttigieg Was One of McKinsey's 'Whiz Kids'
The New York Times. Jan. 21, 2021
"Mr. Buttigieg was recruited by McKinsey at Oxford. The company seeks out Rhodes scholars like him, banking that their intellects will make up for their lack of M.B.A.s from traditional recruiting grounds like Harvard Business School."
Often, its very 'best' members wind up in - for example - Albright Stonebridge Group. And, "ASG, a foundational partner of DGA Group, is a leading provider of global strategic advisory and commercial diplomacy services."
McKinsey has long had exposed 'issues," i.e., Responsible Statecraft, 'The McKinsey consulting scandal you might not have heard about' The firm's work for both authoritarian governments and the Pentagon raises questions about conflicts of interest and harm to US security. Reporting | Middle East
Regions Middle East Conflicts Of Interest
Nick Cleveland-Stout, Feb 03, 2023
And yet, it is.
'When Pete Buttigieg Was One of McKinsey's 'Whiz Kids'
The New York Times. Jan. 21, 2021
"Mr. Buttigieg was recruited by McKinsey at Oxford. The company seeks out Rhodes scholars like him, banking that their intellects will make up for their lack of M.B.A.s from traditional recruiting grounds like Harvard Business School."
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (NFX2v)
283
Feather or tech support.
Posted by: You can't be both at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (tNgW5)
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>>one of the fun parts about Kamala is watching her try to weave a tale of oppression
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and they celebrated kwaanza every year, too
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and they celebrated kwaanza every year, too
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (/7KEl)
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Wonder how our friends at DU are feeling with Clooney saying Joe’s cheese slipped off his cracker and slid out the front door.
Posted by: Piper at July 10, 2024 12:02 PM (p4NUW)
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Now I'm all hungry. Time to make breakfast.
Posted by: Piper at July 10, 2024 12:02 PM (p4NUW)
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Now I'm all hungry. Time to make breakfast.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (3Fz6p)
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All while culturally appropriating the African-American plight........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
and boasting about locking up black men for smoking weed
All while culturally appropriating the African-American plight........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
and boasting about locking up black men for smoking weed
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (CIS44)
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all seriousness aside- don't you think Putin might prefer a US President who is going to f*** everything up for his international rival?
Posted by: Don Black
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Wait, all seriousness aside?
I'm not saying this in a mean way, but I thought that was already what you were posting.
Russia is a created enemy. Yes they're competing against us, same as Britain, Mexico, and everyone else, but the Hillary Reset moment was real. They became the enemy because the left/feds suddenly needed an enemy again.
Posted by: Don Black
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Wait, all seriousness aside?
I'm not saying this in a mean way, but I thought that was already what you were posting.
Russia is a created enemy. Yes they're competing against us, same as Britain, Mexico, and everyone else, but the Hillary Reset moment was real. They became the enemy because the left/feds suddenly needed an enemy again.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (SkCDA)
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"When White, for 22 years the head of a small, predominately black church in St. Paul, Minnesota, stood up for gay marriage, most of his congregants left. With his financially ruined church lost to foreclosure and only a few believers by his side, White remains undeterred.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Down Low, cough. Worked with a guy like that at Sears---was on the down low, had a gorgeous girlfriend, and was in the choir at a local black church attending every Sunday. Dude would get his pickup calls at work and eventually got fired for stealing from the register.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Down Low, cough. Worked with a guy like that at Sears---was on the down low, had a gorgeous girlfriend, and was in the choir at a local black church attending every Sunday. Dude would get his pickup calls at work and eventually got fired for stealing from the register.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (mIs2x)
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At least George Hamilton had his impeccable tan going for him.
Posted by: whig
According to visitor logs, George Hamilton visited the White House 7 times in the week prior to the recent debate.
Posted by: whig
According to visitor logs, George Hamilton visited the White House 7 times in the week prior to the recent debate.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (w9Wax)
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"This integrated approach to work system improvement is known as methods engineering and it is applied today to industrial as well as service organizations, including banks, schools and hospitals."
Just imagine what schools and hospitals would be like with unimproved work systems.
Just imagine what schools and hospitals would be like with unimproved work systems.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (CgbEA)
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They didn't have homosexuals or transsexuals in Roman days.
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Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024
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Never forget about me.
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Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024
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Never forget about me.
Posted by: The Emperor Hadrian at July 10, 2024 12:04 PM (J2vNu)
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Feather or tech support.
Posted by: You can't be both at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (tNgW5)
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HA! I used to work in Application Support and had an American Indian colleague!
Posted by: You can't be both at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (tNgW5)
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HA! I used to work in Application Support and had an American Indian colleague!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 12:04 PM (HnUIn)
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According to visitor logs, George Hamilton visited the White House 7 times in the week prior to the recent debate.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks a
I assumed it was an Alabama sorority girl showing just how to apply the bronzer.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks a
I assumed it was an Alabama sorority girl showing just how to apply the bronzer.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:04 PM (CIS44)
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"All while culturally appropriating the African-American plight........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)"
If we don't arrest this slide into the abyss by booting out the progs and RINOs, you're going to continue to see politicians and business leaders adopting bullshit ethnic backgrounds to suit whatever is currently in fashion.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)"
If we don't arrest this slide into the abyss by booting out the progs and RINOs, you're going to continue to see politicians and business leaders adopting bullshit ethnic backgrounds to suit whatever is currently in fashion.
Posted by: somedood at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (SbE5e)
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McKinsey exists to help create a 'pretend' governing group and strategy for civil society. In other words, imho, it's a breeding ground, probably one of many similar.
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Don't let it be missed that McKinsey was responsible for the worldwide COVID response and no-bid contracts for how to respond because "there's no time"
It was all planned and coordinated.
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Don't let it be missed that McKinsey was responsible for the worldwide COVID response and no-bid contracts for how to respond because "there's no time"
It was all planned and coordinated.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (SkCDA)
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I think it is hard to have expertise when you don't have a base of competence.
I saw described somewhere about the younger generations of digital natives that they are very good with interfaces but don't know the underlying technology. I think that is part of it. Also we discount competence against other characteristics. Yes, that is a knock on DEI. But also with some of the other BS we allow to substitute, like "passion."
I saw described somewhere about the younger generations of digital natives that they are very good with interfaces but don't know the underlying technology. I think that is part of it. Also we discount competence against other characteristics. Yes, that is a knock on DEI. But also with some of the other BS we allow to substitute, like "passion."
Posted by: blaster at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (xhfG9)
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The idea that Diversity among people is an unalloyed good is totally unsupported by history at any time, anywhere.
Mostly, mixing populations led to war, civil unrest, slavery, extinction. The Romans sorta had it working as long as your group benefited the Roman Empire and knew your place.
The US had diversity dumped on it by history and nation-building and we made a fair go of it by establishing a republic and a national identity, and the general idea of a meritocracy. Not perfect at times but it seemed to be improving, buuuuuuuuuut, the Left got rid of all that and now we're stuck with the usual results of human diversity, ie. endless antagonist jockeying for benefits extracted by force from other groups.
Great job a-holes.
The hilarious thing is why anyone in Europe wanted to install the "benefit" of competing races and cultures and religions straight up in their relatively affluent and well-ordered societies.
Just outstanding work everyone! Take a bow!
The idea that Diversity among people is an unalloyed good is totally unsupported by history at any time, anywhere.
Mostly, mixing populations led to war, civil unrest, slavery, extinction. The Romans sorta had it working as long as your group benefited the Roman Empire and knew your place.
The US had diversity dumped on it by history and nation-building and we made a fair go of it by establishing a republic and a national identity, and the general idea of a meritocracy. Not perfect at times but it seemed to be improving, buuuuuuuuuut, the Left got rid of all that and now we're stuck with the usual results of human diversity, ie. endless antagonist jockeying for benefits extracted by force from other groups.
Great job a-holes.
The hilarious thing is why anyone in Europe wanted to install the "benefit" of competing races and cultures and religions straight up in their relatively affluent and well-ordered societies.
Just outstanding work everyone! Take a bow!
Posted by: naturalfake at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (eDfFs)
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The fox says the henhouse is clean as hound's tooth. His words: clean as a hound's tooth.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (Cx3Fg)
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Three decades ago, at the beginning of my career, I worked at a parenting publication.
I quickly saw what the expert class did to erode parents' confidence in their own abilities to raise healthy and happy children. Every issue was fear + you've been doing it all wrong + experts say.
If readers (nearly all women) let them, parenting experts would destroy their grounded parenting instincts.
Two decades ago, I stood in a checkout line behind a young man. In the magazine racks was Matthew McConaughey on Cosmo for Men staring at us.
I said to the young man, "They're coming for you" and pointed at the magazine. I didn't really explain my comment, but he somehow understood that "they" meant the beauty product industry.
He shot back, "Not me! I don't even use shampoo - only bar soap!"
I think Cosmo for Men failed. I'd like to think men rejected all that gaslighting from the "experts" that fills those garbage magazines.
I quickly saw what the expert class did to erode parents' confidence in their own abilities to raise healthy and happy children. Every issue was fear + you've been doing it all wrong + experts say.
If readers (nearly all women) let them, parenting experts would destroy their grounded parenting instincts.
Two decades ago, I stood in a checkout line behind a young man. In the magazine racks was Matthew McConaughey on Cosmo for Men staring at us.
I said to the young man, "They're coming for you" and pointed at the magazine. I didn't really explain my comment, but he somehow understood that "they" meant the beauty product industry.
He shot back, "Not me! I don't even use shampoo - only bar soap!"
I think Cosmo for Men failed. I'd like to think men rejected all that gaslighting from the "experts" that fills those garbage magazines.
Posted by: Coki at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (Wkrcf)
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and they celebrated kwaanza every year, too
And the parents in ultra-liberal Palo Alto refused to let their kids play with Kamala and her sister, because her father was a black Stanford professor.
And the parents in ultra-liberal Palo Alto refused to let their kids play with Kamala and her sister, because her father was a black Stanford professor.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (uxCna)
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and boasting about locking up black men for smoking weed
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (CIS44)
So, you're saying culturally appropriating African-American plight while CREATING African-American plight?
That's brilliant.
and boasting about locking up black men for smoking weed
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (CIS44)
So, you're saying culturally appropriating African-American plight while CREATING African-American plight?
That's brilliant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (Zz0t1)
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and they celebrated kwaanza every year, too
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (/7KEl)
Whenever I come across a mention of Kwanzaa, I remember an episode of Futurama in which there's a shortage of beeswax for candle-making or whatever they do for that "holiday," and Amy says, "Oh no! There could be no Kwanzaa this year! Like every year before 1966!"
Posted by: Don Black at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (/7KEl)
Whenever I come across a mention of Kwanzaa, I remember an episode of Futurama in which there's a shortage of beeswax for candle-making or whatever they do for that "holiday," and Amy says, "Oh no! There could be no Kwanzaa this year! Like every year before 1966!"
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (jGGMD)
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133
Well, I never...
*faints, aghast*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (GBKbO)
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TJM has the vapors ......
Well, I never...
*faints, aghast*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (GBKbO)
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TJM has the vapors ......
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, la stella e svenuta at July 10, 2024 12:06 PM (qfLjt)
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I've seen the college one, I think. Just about as far from Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School as you can imagine, but fun.
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Higgins. Unexpected depths.
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Higgins. Unexpected depths.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 10, 2024 12:06 PM (AYNL4)
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According to visitor logs, George Hamilton visited the White House 7 times in the week prior to the recent debate.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (w9Wax)
The Left will never let go of that musical.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (w9Wax)
The Left will never let go of that musical.
Posted by: blaster at July 10, 2024 12:06 PM (xhfG9)
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They didn't have homosexuals or transsexuals in Roman days.
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Every generation of commies thinks they invented these same tired tropes they're constantly recycling. I had some idiot tell me one time that Queen Victoria and Prince Albert invented romantic love, that before that, women were just bargaining chips and had no romantic value to men.
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Every generation of commies thinks they invented these same tired tropes they're constantly recycling. I had some idiot tell me one time that Queen Victoria and Prince Albert invented romantic love, that before that, women were just bargaining chips and had no romantic value to men.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024 12:06 PM (B0mGw)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM
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Busty bikini brunettes are experts at wedgies.
Hint, hint.
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Busty bikini brunettes are experts at wedgies.
Hint, hint.
Posted by: wth at July 10, 2024 12:06 PM (v0R5T)
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268 We have reached the stage that many old monarchies and empires reached before they fell, where we have a corrupt and ignorant ruling class which is completely out of touch with everything actually going on 10 feet outside their front doors.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill
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Corrupt republics and democracies in the past as well. All forms of government fail over time and primarily because society and their chosen leadership. Basically we choose the form of our destructor when the government is set up.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill
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Corrupt republics and democracies in the past as well. All forms of government fail over time and primarily because society and their chosen leadership. Basically we choose the form of our destructor when the government is set up.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 12:06 PM (mIs2x)
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So, you're saying culturally appropriating African-American plight while CREATING African-American plight?
That's brilliant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
well when you put it that way maybe she's smarter than I give her credit for
*furrows brow, contemplates*
nahhhhh, shes not
That's brilliant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
well when you put it that way maybe she's smarter than I give her credit for
*furrows brow, contemplates*
nahhhhh, shes not
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (CIS44)
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Y'all are truly a National Treasure.
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (y7DxH)
I nominate this for Comment of the Year!
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth,
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I think he should name names...
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (y7DxH)
I nominate this for Comment of the Year!
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth,
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I think he should name names...
Posted by: muldoon at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (uCfKO)
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I saw described somewhere about the younger generations of digital natives that they are very good with interfaces but don't know the underlying technology. I think that is part of it. Also we discount competence against other characteristics. Yes, that is a knock on DEI. But also with some of the other BS we allow to substitute, like "passion."
Posted by: blaster at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (xhfG9)
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High-tech today is extremely easy to use, and that user-friendliness makes it utterly unimportant to know how the system itself works. That's okay. Cars that are easy to drive are accessible to lots of people, but most of the people who drive cars don't know how to fix them. Operating the machine does not require understanding of the machine. Anyone can flip a light switch. Fewer people can wire a house competently, fewer than that can wire a neighborhood competently, and fewer still can generate power competently.
Operational ability does not reflect expertise, it reflects operational ability. Nothing more. This is no problem unless you conflate the two.
Posted by: blaster at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (xhfG9)
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High-tech today is extremely easy to use, and that user-friendliness makes it utterly unimportant to know how the system itself works. That's okay. Cars that are easy to drive are accessible to lots of people, but most of the people who drive cars don't know how to fix them. Operating the machine does not require understanding of the machine. Anyone can flip a light switch. Fewer people can wire a house competently, fewer than that can wire a neighborhood competently, and fewer still can generate power competently.
Operational ability does not reflect expertise, it reflects operational ability. Nothing more. This is no problem unless you conflate the two.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (HnUIn)
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well when you put it that way maybe she's smarter than I give her credit for
*furrows brow, contemplates*
nahhhhh, shes not
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (CIS44)
You know what they say, Griftin’ ain’t easy!
*furrows brow, contemplates*
nahhhhh, shes not
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (CIS44)
You know what they say, Griftin’ ain’t easy!
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (9mfKN)
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Does anyone still read magazines? Do they still print them?
Posted by: Not really paying attention at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (tNgW5)
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That 133 should be 132
That 133 should be 132
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, la stella e svenuta. at July 10, 2024 12:08 PM (qfLjt)
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I had some idiot tell me one time that Queen Victoria and Prince Albert invented romantic love, that before that, women were just bargaining chips and had no romantic value to men.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024
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Utter rubbish!
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024
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Utter rubbish!
Posted by: Heloise, Juliet, Isolde, et al. at July 10, 2024 12:08 PM (J2vNu)
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I had some idiot tell me one time that Queen Victoria and Prince Albert invented romantic love, that before that, women were just bargaining chips and had no romantic value to men.
Posted by: Ribbed
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Comes to a shock for those studying courtly love in the Middle Ages.
Always amused by the idee fixe types that read one book that sticks with them come hell or high water.
Posted by: Ribbed
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Comes to a shock for those studying courtly love in the Middle Ages.
Always amused by the idee fixe types that read one book that sticks with them come hell or high water.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 12:08 PM (mIs2x)
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You know what they say, Griftin’ ain’t easy!
Posted by: DoublySymmetric
I thought that was pimpin'
Posted by: DoublySymmetric
I thought that was pimpin'
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:08 PM (CIS44)
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Diversity Was Supposed to Make Us Rich. Not So Much.
Wait, so you're ADMITTING that basing your hiring standards on skin color instead of ability ISN'T WORKING?!??!
The hells you say........
Wait, so you're ADMITTING that basing your hiring standards on skin color instead of ability ISN'T WORKING?!??!
The hells you say........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 12:08 PM (Zz0t1)
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She doesn't look the least bit Indian to me,
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Mrs. Wrecks is going to a Native American meet up in Denver at the end of the month. You know what that means for me? Three days without adult supervision.
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Mrs. Wrecks is going to a Native American meet up in Denver at the end of the month. You know what that means for me? Three days without adult supervision.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
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Women are, and have always been , the most valuable things to men and the most treasured thing men could hope to attain. Worthy of wars. Strangers worthy of protection.
It's hilarious that women decided to exchange that dynamic for 40+ hour workweeks and dying alone.
U GO GIRLZ
It's hilarious that women decided to exchange that dynamic for 40+ hour workweeks and dying alone.
U GO GIRLZ
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024 12:08 PM (SkCDA)
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Does this distrust of experts apply to Disinformation Expert Ace?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 10, 2024 12:08 PM (v6JzV)
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DEI Failure.
In many ways this is the story of Obama...
Midwit 'B' Team execs hiring fellow cocksuckers from Hahvard solely because they are fellow cocksuckers will result in them hiring the 'C' Team and 'DEI' Team.
They do this with confidence because they know enough that they themselves got the job only because they are cocksuckers, and that is all they know, so why not a little for DEI, don't want to look racist for only sicking Hahvard cock.
They cannot comprehend real knowledge. Just sucking cock.
In many ways this is the story of Obama...
Midwit 'B' Team execs hiring fellow cocksuckers from Hahvard solely because they are fellow cocksuckers will result in them hiring the 'C' Team and 'DEI' Team.
They do this with confidence because they know enough that they themselves got the job only because they are cocksuckers, and that is all they know, so why not a little for DEI, don't want to look racist for only sicking Hahvard cock.
They cannot comprehend real knowledge. Just sucking cock.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 10, 2024 12:09 PM (6TUIG)
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According to visitor logs, George Hamilton visited the White House 7 times in the week prior to the recent debate.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks
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Probably needed to score some blow.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks
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Probably needed to score some blow.
Posted by: wth at July 10, 2024 12:09 PM (v0R5T)
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well when you put it that way maybe she's smarter than I give her credit for
*furrows brow, contemplates*
nahhhhh, shes not
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (CIS44)
I will file it away in the "Blind Squirrel, Nut" folder, then.
well when you put it that way maybe she's smarter than I give her credit for
*furrows brow, contemplates*
nahhhhh, shes not
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (CIS44)
I will file it away in the "Blind Squirrel, Nut" folder, then.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 10, 2024 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 10, 2024 12:09 PM (6TUIG)
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"Hispanic", however, is a mix of things, right? Mostly, it's Spanish immigration to Latin America - which is to say "white" - but with some amount of aboriginal and African ancestry mixed in. Or do I have that wrong?
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (hOOi9)
this will sound vicious, but it's what the Mexicans themselves say about their origin - the Conquistadores didn't bring any women with them (none of them wanted to leave Spain), so they took over, killed all the men, and raped all the women. The Mexican "race" was their offspring. Mexico was the ultimate dysfunctional nation right from the start.
"Hispanic", however, is a mix of things, right? Mostly, it's Spanish immigration to Latin America - which is to say "white" - but with some amount of aboriginal and African ancestry mixed in. Or do I have that wrong?
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 11:59 AM (hOOi9)
this will sound vicious, but it's what the Mexicans themselves say about their origin - the Conquistadores didn't bring any women with them (none of them wanted to leave Spain), so they took over, killed all the men, and raped all the women. The Mexican "race" was their offspring. Mexico was the ultimate dysfunctional nation right from the start.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (wyMQY)
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The book of Genesis says Isaac was sporting with his wife. I don't think they were playing a rousing game of tennis.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (B0mGw)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (W2Pud)
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It's hilarious that women decided to exchange that dynamic for 40+ hour workweeks and dying alone.
U GO GIRLZ
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024
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You got sold a bill of goods, girlz. They call it "work" and not "play" for a reason.
U GO GIRLZ
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men don't care about women's accomplishments, only looks and not nagging at July 10, 2024
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You got sold a bill of goods, girlz. They call it "work" and not "play" for a reason.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (J2vNu)
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I think Cosmo for Men failed. I'd like to think men rejected all that gaslighting from the "experts" that fills those garbage magazines.
Posted by: Coki
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Most men associate that stuff with gays or gay wannabees/metrosexuals.
Posted by: Coki
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Most men associate that stuff with gays or gay wannabees/metrosexuals.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (mIs2x)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (O7YUW)
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It's hilarious that women decided to exchange that dynamic for 40+ hour workweeks and dying alone.
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Don't forget the cats!
It's hilarious that women decided to exchange that dynamic for 40+ hour workweeks and dying alone.
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Don't forget the cats!
Posted by: You CAN have it all at July 10, 2024 12:11 PM (tNgW5)
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134 54 Ya know who else's papers are secret? Freud's
that's because of the hippo act, isn't it?
Posted by: anachronda at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (oY6Yp)
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Do you ever wonder why they chose a hippopotamus instead of, say, an elephant?
that's because of the hippo act, isn't it?
Posted by: anachronda at July 10, 2024 11:32 AM (oY6Yp)
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Do you ever wonder why they chose a hippopotamus instead of, say, an elephant?
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, gli ippopotami sono pesanti at July 10, 2024 12:11 PM (qfLjt)
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Noodus bidenia golfonus
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 10, 2024 12:11 PM (J2vNu)
335
"Just imagine what schools and hospitals would be like with unimproved work systems.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (CgbEA)"
This sounds funny until you have to work with a building full of retards who can't understand that they're making 300% more work for themselves.
I actually worked for one of the big logistics/parcel companies; not going to say which one between USPS/UPS/FedEx. It was a short-time gig a long time ago. These rocket surgeons wasted something like half their man-hours sorting shit into piles based on a specific criteria, but then had to move those piles through a machine, rendering all of the complex sorting meaningless. Then they fucking sorted them again. If you explained the pointlessness of it they'd just stare at you. They truly did not get it.
The simple fact of the matter is that most people can do a given job very well, but are not bright enough to actually originate an efficient job design.
Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake on Tea at July 10, 2024 12:03 PM (CgbEA)"
This sounds funny until you have to work with a building full of retards who can't understand that they're making 300% more work for themselves.
I actually worked for one of the big logistics/parcel companies; not going to say which one between USPS/UPS/FedEx. It was a short-time gig a long time ago. These rocket surgeons wasted something like half their man-hours sorting shit into piles based on a specific criteria, but then had to move those piles through a machine, rendering all of the complex sorting meaningless. Then they fucking sorted them again. If you explained the pointlessness of it they'd just stare at you. They truly did not get it.
The simple fact of the matter is that most people can do a given job very well, but are not bright enough to actually originate an efficient job design.
Posted by: somedood at July 10, 2024 12:11 PM (SbE5e)
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"She doesn't look the least bit Indian to me,"
Close your eyes and imagine her saying, "Welcome to Quickie Mart!"
Close your eyes and imagine her saying, "Welcome to Quickie Mart!"
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024 12:11 PM (B0mGw)
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329 It's hilarious that women decided to exchange that dynamic for 40+ hour workweeks and dying alone.
U GO GIRLZ
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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An old hard knocks boss of mine referred to the type as corporate nuns. In essence, the organization takes the place of family.
U GO GIRLZ
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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An old hard knocks boss of mine referred to the type as corporate nuns. In essence, the organization takes the place of family.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 12:11 PM (mIs2x)
338
Will the Rainbow flag have to be re-designed if some of the alphabet people don't get along?
Will the Rainbow flag have to be re-designed if some of the alphabet people don't get along?
Posted by: Auspex at July 10, 2024 12:11 PM (j4U/Z)
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this will sound vicious, but it's what the Mexicans themselves say about their origin - the Conquistadores didn't bring any women with them (none of them wanted to leave Spain), so they took over, killed all the men, and raped all the women. The Mexican "race" was their offspring. Mexico was the ultimate dysfunctional nation right from the start.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (wyMQY)
And like so much of Mexico's historical memory, it's a mix of lies, half-truths, and generalizations, held together by a correct closing statement.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (wyMQY)
And like so much of Mexico's historical memory, it's a mix of lies, half-truths, and generalizations, held together by a correct closing statement.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:12 PM (jGGMD)
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"When White, for 22 years the head of a small, predominately black church in St. Paul, Minnesota, stood up for gay marriage, most of his congregants left. With his financially ruined church lost to foreclosure and only a few believers by his side, White remains undeterred.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
There is an ex-evangelical woman author, who founded a church in Austin with her pastor ex-husband. They decided, after "deep theological study", that gay unions were okay and foisted this decision on the church.
When the backlash hit- a chain of Christian bookstores took out her works, the church lost members, her fellow evangelicals took them to task on the internet- she wrote a Good Friday post about how she really understood how Jesus felt, because she had been betrayed by her friends, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
There is an ex-evangelical woman author, who founded a church in Austin with her pastor ex-husband. They decided, after "deep theological study", that gay unions were okay and foisted this decision on the church.
When the backlash hit- a chain of Christian bookstores took out her works, the church lost members, her fellow evangelicals took them to task on the internet- she wrote a Good Friday post about how she really understood how Jesus felt, because she had been betrayed by her friends, too.
Posted by: sal at July 10, 2024 12:12 PM (y7DxH)
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280 Wonder how our friends at DU are feeling with Clooney saying Joe’s cheese slipped off his cracker and slid out the front door.
Posted by: Piper
Obama and Clooney are pals. They shouldn't be too surprised but 🤷♀️ who knows what games are going on.
(dailymail, June 2019, Barack Obama and George Clooney look dressed for business as they sail on a boat toward a charity dinner near ER actor's lakeside mansion in Italy. The foundation, founded by the Clooneys, is devoted to marginalized communities who have fallen victim to human rights abuses. George Clooney was a gracious host, helping his wife, Amal; the former first lady, Michelle; and the Obamas' daughter, Malia, off the boat. Credit: Vantagenews.com)
And the Clooney Foundation for Justice will be protected.
Posted by: Piper
Obama and Clooney are pals. They shouldn't be too surprised but 🤷♀️ who knows what games are going on.
(dailymail, June 2019, Barack Obama and George Clooney look dressed for business as they sail on a boat toward a charity dinner near ER actor's lakeside mansion in Italy. The foundation, founded by the Clooneys, is devoted to marginalized communities who have fallen victim to human rights abuses. George Clooney was a gracious host, helping his wife, Amal; the former first lady, Michelle; and the Obamas' daughter, Malia, off the boat. Credit: Vantagenews.com)
And the Clooney Foundation for Justice will be protected.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 10, 2024 12:13 PM (NFX2v)
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315 I had some idiot tell me one time that Queen Victoria and Prince Albert invented romantic love, that before that, women were just bargaining chips and had no romantic value to men.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024
Victoria put a huge and concsious effort into shows of Public Virtue and Morality, and the idea of Romantic Love, because her father, and her uncle George IV, and all of his brothers, had been such notoriously debauched whoremongers that the British Public was ready to be done with the monarchy once and for all.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 10, 2024
Victoria put a huge and concsious effort into shows of Public Virtue and Morality, and the idea of Romantic Love, because her father, and her uncle George IV, and all of his brothers, had been such notoriously debauched whoremongers that the British Public was ready to be done with the monarchy once and for all.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:13 PM (wyMQY)
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"... Ideally, these are actually the ones that tenure is designed to protect because it can take a long time to actually gather data, analyze it, and then produce results. Most of the ones that I have encountered over the years freely admit mistakes, learning from those mistakes, and improving their ideas. ..."
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:54 AM (mIs2x)
Sounds more like a scientist to me - someone who develops knowledge - than what I would think of as an "expert" - someone who is employed to use such knowledge. The "mistakes" in this case just represent the educated guesses they make along the way not panning out. As opposed to them making actually screwing up.
I guess you could say that a REAL scientist is certainly an "expert", but such people are a small subset of the latter group.
"Theorists", as you describe it, are basically just politicians. They tell the other members of the club what they want to hear, so that they can get what they want from them.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2024 11:54 AM (mIs2x)
Sounds more like a scientist to me - someone who develops knowledge - than what I would think of as an "expert" - someone who is employed to use such knowledge. The "mistakes" in this case just represent the educated guesses they make along the way not panning out. As opposed to them making actually screwing up.
I guess you could say that a REAL scientist is certainly an "expert", but such people are a small subset of the latter group.
"Theorists", as you describe it, are basically just politicians. They tell the other members of the club what they want to hear, so that they can get what they want from them.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 12:14 PM (hOOi9)
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Idaho Central Credit Union lost a customer who read updated terms of use that she couldn't use her account for firearms or ammunition, materials that promote "hate", or certain alimony or child support payments.
https://tinyurl.com/427wrjv5
The broadcasters refer to her as a "unicorn" because she actually read the terms.
According to ICCU, the terms are "standard industry verbage". Check those terms!
https://tinyurl.com/427wrjv5
The broadcasters refer to her as a "unicorn" because she actually read the terms.
According to ICCU, the terms are "standard industry verbage". Check those terms!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 10, 2024 12:14 PM (LWWI4)
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313 Does anyone still read magazines? Do they still print them?
Posted by: Not really paying attention at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (tNgW5)
I think there is a Cosmo for Guys - an iPad launch.
Posted by: Not really paying attention at July 10, 2024 12:07 PM (tNgW5)
I think there is a Cosmo for Guys - an iPad launch.
Posted by: Coki at July 10, 2024 12:14 PM (Wkrcf)
346
My favorite part of Kwanza is the airing of grievances.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 12:14 PM (L/fGl)
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t's a mix of lies, half-truths, and generalizations, held together by a correct closing statement.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:12 PM (jGGMD)
Thank you! That's what I go for with my posts!
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:12 PM (jGGMD)
Thank you! That's what I go for with my posts!
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:15 PM (wyMQY)
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> I had some idiot tell me one time that Queen Victoria and Prince Albert invented romantic love, that before that, women were just bargaining chips and had no romantic value to men.
Was that person Greek?
Was that person Greek?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2024 12:16 PM (Odg76)
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Thank you! That's what I go for with my posts!
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:15 PM (wyMQY)
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that you were a liar. I meant that what Mexicans say about their own past is mostly a lie.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:15 PM (wyMQY)
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that you were a liar. I meant that what Mexicans say about their own past is mostly a lie.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:17 PM (jGGMD)
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154 I think it was Gilbreth who, when he went into a factory, asked to watch the laziest man there.
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So the manager...
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Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, gli ippopotami sono grossi at July 10, 2024 12:19 PM (qfLjt)
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The Olde Guard Democrats seem to be siding with *biden. I guess they sense a precedent if he's forced out due to "old age." Or senility.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 12:19 PM (Q4IgG)
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Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that you were a liar. I meant that what Mexicans say about their own past is mostly a lie.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:17 PM (jGGMD)
oh I understood you, but I did really like the phrase!
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:17 PM (jGGMD)
oh I understood you, but I did really like the phrase!
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:20 PM (wyMQY)
353
In those situations where expensive, complicated new systems are implemented -- of any type -- it's usually the IT guy who is getting bribed by outside vendors to buy and maintain the expensive, complicated system. The workers will get shafted. The company will get nothing out of it but headaches. The IT guy will get superbowl tickets with a side of hookers and blow.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (iFTx/)
Then that IT guy quits, and the organization gets to "lather-rinse-repeat" with a new system, just when they'd finally adapted to and worked the kinds out of the old new system.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 10, 2024 11:33 AM (iFTx/)
Then that IT guy quits, and the organization gets to "lather-rinse-repeat" with a new system, just when they'd finally adapted to and worked the kinds out of the old new system.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 10, 2024 12:20 PM (hB7mE)
354
The hilarious thing is why anyone in Europe wanted to install the "benefit" of competing races and cultures and religions straight up in their relatively affluent and well-ordered societies.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (eDfFs)
Many reasons, but the main one was low-skill worker shortages in Germany & France.
Many thought they could imitate the American Melting Pot theory, not realizing we’re not pot of soup but a bowl of salad.
So they began importing as many people as possible from Turkey into Germany & Netherlands and from Algeria into France.
The UK had their pick of talent across the world due to the late, great, empire but chose Jamaica, India, Pakistan as their main imports to do the shit jobs.
There’s a lot more but that’s how it started and now they’re in a worse situation than we are.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 10, 2024 12:05 PM (eDfFs)
Many reasons, but the main one was low-skill worker shortages in Germany & France.
Many thought they could imitate the American Melting Pot theory, not realizing we’re not pot of soup but a bowl of salad.
So they began importing as many people as possible from Turkey into Germany & Netherlands and from Algeria into France.
The UK had their pick of talent across the world due to the late, great, empire but chose Jamaica, India, Pakistan as their main imports to do the shit jobs.
There’s a lot more but that’s how it started and now they’re in a worse situation than we are.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 10, 2024 12:22 PM (6ydKt)
355
this will sound vicious, but it's what the Mexicans themselves say about their origin - the Conquistadores didn't bring any women with them (none of them wanted to leave Spain), so they took over, killed all the men, and raped all the women. The Mexican "race" was their offspring. Mexico was the ultimate dysfunctional nation right from the start.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (wyMQY)
That would certainly explain how it came to be.
But there were also areas - especially in the Caribbean, I think, where African slaves were brought in, so a certain amount of African ancestry can be included in the mix, too, right? Or is that not "Hispanic" when that happens.
I heard once that in Puerto Rico there was a special term for somebody who was 3/4 one thing and 1/4 the other, because that was pretty typical. Probably, it was European vs Aboriginal. I forget the term, but could probably find it if a gun were held to my head.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Jill at July 10, 2024 12:10 PM (wyMQY)
That would certainly explain how it came to be.
But there were also areas - especially in the Caribbean, I think, where African slaves were brought in, so a certain amount of African ancestry can be included in the mix, too, right? Or is that not "Hispanic" when that happens.
I heard once that in Puerto Rico there was a special term for somebody who was 3/4 one thing and 1/4 the other, because that was pretty typical. Probably, it was European vs Aboriginal. I forget the term, but could probably find it if a gun were held to my head.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 12:23 PM (hOOi9)
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The Olde Guard Democrats seem to be siding with *biden. I guess they sense a precedent if he's forced out due to "old age." Or senility.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 12:19 PM (Q4IgG)
I think that if Trump and his crew were smart, they would of course mention Biden's senility, but-
They should start emphasinzinbg strongly that Biden's senility isn't the reason that people hate "Bidenonomics and the current culture.
It his and the Democrats' policies that aremleading to nation malaise and failure.
Electing any Democrat would mean the same failed policies only now initiated by the someone who's not a senile vegetable,
and that would be worse.
Start building coat-tails, baby!
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2024 12:19 PM (Q4IgG)
I think that if Trump and his crew were smart, they would of course mention Biden's senility, but-
They should start emphasinzinbg strongly that Biden's senility isn't the reason that people hate "Bidenonomics and the current culture.
It his and the Democrats' policies that aremleading to nation malaise and failure.
Electing any Democrat would mean the same failed policies only now initiated by the someone who's not a senile vegetable,
and that would be worse.
Start building coat-tails, baby!
Posted by: naturalfake at July 10, 2024 12:24 PM (eDfFs)
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38 Speaking of experts . . .
https://is.gd/Ivhiip
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (L/fGl)
From the Twitchy article: What were people doing in 1971 to cool the planet rather than heat it up?
It was all the flapping from the wide bell bottom jeans, I'm sure. An expert said so. Allegedly.
https://is.gd/Ivhiip
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 10, 2024 11:11 AM (L/fGl)
From the Twitchy article: What were people doing in 1971 to cool the planet rather than heat it up?
It was all the flapping from the wide bell bottom jeans, I'm sure. An expert said so. Allegedly.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 10, 2024 12:24 PM (Rbu5d)
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54 Ya know who else's papers are secret? Freud's
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 10, 2024 11:15 AM (QSrLX)
Freud, Fraud, not much difference.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 10, 2024 11:15 AM (QSrLX)
Freud, Fraud, not much difference.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 10, 2024 12:25 PM (Rbu5d)
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The hydrogen leaks in the Space Shuttle in 1990, NASA sent out it’s expert on the umbilical that was leaking to help the Ops folks figure out what was going on.
So everyone is on a platform hundreds of feet in the air next to the external tank and the guy says “Wow, I’ve never seen flight hardware before!”
So everyone is on a platform hundreds of feet in the air next to the external tank and the guy says “Wow, I’ve never seen flight hardware before!”
Posted by: pawn at July 10, 2024 12:27 PM (i+bi7)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 10, 2024 12:27 PM (eDfFs)
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74 Wear two masks!
Posted by: The Experts, circa 2021 at July 10, 2024 11:20 AM (tNgW5)
SIX FEET apart, citizen!
Posted by: The Experts, circa 2021 at July 10, 2024 11:20 AM (tNgW5)
SIX FEET apart, citizen!
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 10, 2024 12:29 PM (Rbu5d)
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"And like so much of Mexico's historical memory, it's a mix of lies, half-truths, and generalizations, held together by a correct closing statement."
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:12 PM (jGGMD)
I didn't take it 100% literally, but it's not hard to imagine that the European women didn't want to go live in the wilds of America, which caused the European men to make more use of the indigenous women. Europeans arrived, and racial mixing occurred - that's the important part regarding what "Hispanic" really means, I'd say.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 10, 2024 12:12 PM (jGGMD)
I didn't take it 100% literally, but it's not hard to imagine that the European women didn't want to go live in the wilds of America, which caused the European men to make more use of the indigenous women. Europeans arrived, and racial mixing occurred - that's the important part regarding what "Hispanic" really means, I'd say.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 12:34 PM (hOOi9)
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186 This blonde with underboob asserts no particular expertise:
http://tiny.cc/lmg3zz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Looked at that picture, and _Night Moves_ started running through my head...
http://tiny.cc/lmg3zz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Looked at that picture, and _Night Moves_ started running through my head...
Posted by: buddhaha at July 10, 2024 12:43 PM (CQALu)
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... So everyone is on a platform hundreds of feet in the air next to the external tank and the guy says “Wow, I’ve never seen flight hardware before!”
Posted by: pawn at July 10, 2024 12:27 PM (i+bi7)
That's probably pretty typical - I don't think I EVER got to see the actual hardware for anything. For example, I worked on developing the nav system for the Tomahawk cruise missile, when we were adding a GPS capability, but I never saw a Tomahawk in person, or even the nav hardware.
Even when I was on a flight test (for a different system) and the hardware was there, it was tucked inside a pod where I couldn't really see any of the parts.
Other experts were involved in actually fabricating the various devices - experts who were experts at fabricating things, and who probably didn't have a detailed understanding about how the overall system was supposed to work.
Posted by: pawn at July 10, 2024 12:27 PM (i+bi7)
That's probably pretty typical - I don't think I EVER got to see the actual hardware for anything. For example, I worked on developing the nav system for the Tomahawk cruise missile, when we were adding a GPS capability, but I never saw a Tomahawk in person, or even the nav hardware.
Even when I was on a flight test (for a different system) and the hardware was there, it was tucked inside a pod where I couldn't really see any of the parts.
Other experts were involved in actually fabricating the various devices - experts who were experts at fabricating things, and who probably didn't have a detailed understanding about how the overall system was supposed to work.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 10, 2024 12:45 PM (hOOi9)
365
My grandfather was a self-taught genius. There wasn't anything he couldn't build. At 76 years old, he built a telescoping hydraulic lift that he could tie into the PTO of his old Ford tractor, so he could lift asphalt shingles to re-roof his two-story barn. He never owned a store-bought lawn mower for his 2-acre plot; he pieced together a rear-wheel-steering mini lawn tractor from parts he'd accrued, then built a powered reel mower that he towed around him to cut the grass. He built his own telescope from brass tubes and lenses he'd ordered to fit his specifications.
A few weeks ago, I needed something to chase the threads on a new brake master cylinder because the fittings were too tight owing to a mfg defect. It took five stores to finally find someone who knew where the parts I needed were. (At the 1st store -- an auto parts store -- the girl looked at my master cylinder and said, "What's THAT thing?"
It won't be long before out "betters" replace everyone with AI; the people who know things will die off; and people will end up pouring Brawndo on the plants before that's what plants crave.
A few weeks ago, I needed something to chase the threads on a new brake master cylinder because the fittings were too tight owing to a mfg defect. It took five stores to finally find someone who knew where the parts I needed were. (At the 1st store -- an auto parts store -- the girl looked at my master cylinder and said, "What's THAT thing?"
It won't be long before out "betters" replace everyone with AI; the people who know things will die off; and people will end up pouring Brawndo on the plants before that's what plants crave.
Posted by: red speck at July 10, 2024 12:47 PM (0Id0S)
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odds for Trump’s VP selection are as follows, per Odds Checker.
J.D. Vance +250
Doug Burgum +255
Marco Rubio +900
Ben Carson +1600
Tim Scott +1800
Tulsi Gabbard +3000
Michael Flynn +3300
J.D. Vance +250
Doug Burgum +255
Marco Rubio +900
Ben Carson +1600
Tim Scott +1800
Tulsi Gabbard +3000
Michael Flynn +3300
Posted by: SMOD at July 10, 2024 12:54 PM (RHGPo)
367
McKinsey did that study TO MAKE MONEY by charging ridiculous fees to recruit DEI personnel to its totes-sucker clientele.
Posted by: dad29 at July 10, 2024 12:54 PM (c/0XQ)
368
This is called "idiosyncratic risk" and it can be managed (and it go way too far, and responding to it can introduce lots of new risks through the collapse of organizational culture and expectations - like everything, it's a balancing act). Creating a false equivalence between something subtle but real - idiosyncratic risk - and something that is a revolutionary mechanism - postmodern race/sex/etc. group power theory - was extremely effective.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:12 AM (HnUIn)
Nope. Americans reject this, cheerfully, in favor of hiring the “networked”. Americans embrace corruption and can’t figure out why things are going so terribly wrong.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 10, 2024 11:12 AM (HnUIn)
Nope. Americans reject this, cheerfully, in favor of hiring the “networked”. Americans embrace corruption and can’t figure out why things are going so terribly wrong.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 10, 2024 01:20 PM (Nt9p1)
369
Wasn’t that an old Mexican curse? May your life be full of experts.
Phony, self-interested experts need to be replaced with American Pragmatism at the national level, and common sense at the individual level.
The America people reached great heights adhering to these principles. The way out of our national malaise is known. It worked before; it will work now.
Phony, self-interested experts need to be replaced with American Pragmatism at the national level, and common sense at the individual level.
The America people reached great heights adhering to these principles. The way out of our national malaise is known. It worked before; it will work now.
Posted by: J. Burns at July 10, 2024 01:22 PM (2vn3Z)
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Posted by: surpluses at July 10, 2024 04:31 PM (Xtdyk)
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dei/esg, a whole host of other things is not the result of business capture of govt, but the reverse. DEI was govt putting its hand on the scale to pressure businesses. This is very important, as the fix for bus capture of govt is more special interests; but govt capture of bus requires dismantling the structures of govt
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When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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