Guest Music Thread [Joe Mannix]

One thing that appears to be on the wane is the specialty music label/record company. There have always been the majors like Capitol Records and the like, of course, but the funky or specialized little labels were fun for two reasons: once you found one, you could assume that something from some other band on that label was probably worth checking out, and the demo discs/tapes from those labels were usually a killer value with decent stuff on them.

Two that spring immediately to mind are Vegas Records and 4AD. Vegas Records was (is? - I can't quite tell) a California-based label specializing in ska and punk. 4AD is still around. It's a British label that used to specialize in alt rock, dream pop, shoegaze and various slightly off-center music genres.

In some ways, this is to be expected. It's easier than ever to be an independent thanks to cheaper good equipment, computers, services like Bandcamp and access to streaming platforms and that's probably a good thing. I do still like - at least nostalgically, anyway - discovering a label that was worth going back to. Do any labels stand out in your collections or preferences?

NOTE: As always, the intro is just a conversation starter if needed. You're welcome to go off-topic, just please keep it to the world of music!

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~~Exceptional~~ Weird as Hell Live Performances
Remember when those paragons of mainstream normality Bjork and PJ Harvey collaborated to perform a cover of the Rolling Stone's "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" at the 1994 BRIT Awards? If not, you're in for one of the odder big TV performances I can think of.

Bonus PJ Harvey
Non-musical Bjork, where she explains how a TV set works in typically bizarre Bjork fashion, including such gems as "you shouldn't let poets lie to you."

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Great Covers
Several years ago, Natalie Imbruglia put out an entire album of covers. One of the tracks on that album was a cover of "Instant Crush" by Daft Punk. Her rendition - really, a full reinterpretation of the track - is distinctly hers and stands distinct from the original. Apparently, she once commented that she really liked the original but wasn't happy that she had trouble understanding the words and wanted to do a cover that was clearer and easier to listen to. Mission accomplished.

Bonus Natalie Imbruglia

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Cool Music Videos
The Shins are a vaguely poppish indie group that formed in the 90s. I'm not overly fond of them, but I think the music video for their track "Simple Song" is excellent. It tells a very complete story, is cut together really well, the musical cues and action are nicely put together and it's overall produced nicely. I think it's a great video.

Bonus The Shins

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Semi-Arbitrary picks from my collection
In no particular order and no implications of quality, here are two songs from the aforementioned labels and two others the randomizer has sent me recently.

Jeffries Fan Club - I Want More (Vegas Records)
It's never enough.

Lush - Ladykillers (4AD)
Sometimes, even a pick-up artist hits a brick wall.

Velvet Revolver - Fall to Pieces
Don't do drugs.

Robert Plant and Alison Krauss - Killing the Blues
My neighbor told me about the couple of albums they did together. They're a good combo.

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Have a great rest of your weekend!

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 07:30 PM

Comments

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1 Rock on

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2024 07:32 PM (fwDg9)

2 nooded.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2024 07:32 PM (UC3nL)

3 No Herb Alpert?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:32 PM (RIvkX)

4 No Herb Alpert?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:32 PM (RIvkX)
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You can add it! It's a music thread!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 07:33 PM (d04cU)

5 Weirdest live performance: David Bowie on Saturday Night Live 12/15/79. We were all in someone's basement smoking a lot of weed.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:35 PM (RIvkX)

6 Thx Joe. Scott Weiland was a helluva singer with both STP and Velvet Revolver. He was also a complete mess of a human being

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2024 07:36 PM (GeMrz)

7 I have not failed to nood if first in years I would wager

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2024 07:36 PM (fwDg9)

8 I've been pimping Live From Daryl's House since most of the episodes are now on YouTube. I watched the episodes with Joe Walsh and Tommy Shaw last night . Still amazed at these old timers musical skills which I think are rare these days .

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2024 07:36 PM (SHMXB)

9 Thx Joe. Scott Weiland was a helluva singer with both STP and Velvet Revolver. He was also a complete mess of a human being
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2024 07:36 PM (GeMrz)
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Yup, so it often goes in Rock 'n Roll.

Chris Cornell, too. Bigly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 07:37 PM (d04cU)

10 I've been pimping Live From Daryl's House since most of the episodes are now on YouTube. I watched the episodes with Joe Walsh and Tommy Shaw last night . Still amazed at these old timers musical skills which I think are rare these days .
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2024 07:36 PM (SHMXB)
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An overall excellent series. Darryl Hall really knows how to retire. His whole set with KT Tunstall was excellent, too. If you haven't seen that one, I recommend it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 07:37 PM (d04cU)

11 Coolest music video: "Addicted to Love" by Robert Palmer

It's a good song but its not the song.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:38 PM (RIvkX)

12 Ditto with the HerbAlpert.
In the rotation on the iPod.
Pre-teen in the ‘70s, Dad would blast The Lonely Bull at 6:00am, telling us to get up and ready for some outing or another.
Had to get the “Best Of CD” for nostalgic reasons.
Rhino Records always had obscure and eclectic artists.
Like the Kingsmen.
Who knows their most famous diddy?

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 22, 2024 07:39 PM (cWet5)

13 Some of my favorite live videos.

Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere - The Who on Ready, Steady, Go!

A Quick One - The Who on Rolling Stones Rock & Roll Circus.

Black Sabbath live in Paris.

Satisfaction - D.E.V.O. on Saturday Night Live.

Echos - Pink Floyd Live at Pompeii.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 22, 2024 07:40 PM (fv27Y)

14 Cranks up some Louis Prima and Keely Smith

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (8i5Iz)

15 My musical hobbies include listening to Darius Rucker being strangled...

Posted by: Harry Baggot at June 22, 2024 07:42 PM (ViNgA)

16 Kingsmen
Louie Louie

Posted by: kactus at June 22, 2024 07:42 PM (twS2i)

17 Got some Mark Knopfler/Dire Straits playing now ("What It Is")

Knopfler has a very, very distinctive play style such that I can immediately recognize his songs within just a few notes of him starting to play.

Just a fantastic musician.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2024 07:43 PM (BpYfr)

18 An overall excellent series. Darryl Hall really knows how to retire. His whole set with KT Tunstall was excellent, too. If you haven't seen that one, I recommend it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 07:37 PM (d04cU)

One that surprised me that was really good was the episode with Lisa Loeb.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2024 07:44 PM (SHMXB)

19 Knopfler has a very, very distinctive play style such that I can immediately recognize his songs within just a few notes of him starting to play.

Just a fantastic musician.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2024 07:43 PM (BpYfr)
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Absolutely! Knopfler is top-tier.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 07:44 PM (d04cU)

20 Mark Knopfler and Chet Atkins
Fun tunes

Posted by: kactus at June 22, 2024 07:44 PM (twS2i)

21 One that surprised me that was really good was the episode with Lisa Loeb.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2024 07:44 PM (SHMXB)
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I haven't seen that one.

:: adds it to the pile ::

Thanks!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 07:44 PM (d04cU)

22
Music (and Musicians) You Love to Hate. Begin.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2024 07:45 PM (MoZTd)

23 Not sure I have a favorite video

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2024 07:45 PM (fwDg9)

24 Not sure I have a favorite video
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2024 07:45 PM (fwDg9)
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I definitely don't, no more than I have a "favorite song." Too wide a field, too many moods, too many situations, too many contexts. I have both songs and videos I like a lot, but I don't know that I could pick a "favorite" of either that wouldn't shift next week or tomorrow or whatever.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 07:46 PM (d04cU)

25 Very much dislike la la la whitebread pop.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2024 07:46 PM (8i5Iz)

26 Yep.
Louie Louie
And I have Louie Prima’s best of too.
Classic, but when I first heard it, I wondered if he was truly legit.
Keely Smith had some pipes on her. They were good together.
Even David Lee Roth got into the Louie!

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 22, 2024 07:46 PM (cWet5)

27 Thanks for the thread, Joe. Most of these are way out of my musical genre wheelhouse, but it's always fun to check it out.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 22, 2024 07:47 PM (mH6SG)

28 Man, I bring up some old shit, and new shit, and there's no love in the comments.

The Morons are a selective, elite crowd.

You old fucking bastards, life did not cease when Jim Morrison, from the Doors, gargled everclear and heroin.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 22, 2024 07:47 PM (dmXQN)

29 >>Knopfler has a very, very distinctive play style such that I can immediately recognize his songs within just a few notes of him starting to play.

Saw a Dire Straits concert back in the early 80s. Great live band.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2024 07:47 PM (LkLld)

30 You old fucking bastards, life did not cease when Jim Morrison, from the Doors, gargled everclear and heroin.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 22, 2024 07:47 PM (dmXQN)
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Hey! I'm a Dread Millennial!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 07:48 PM (d04cU)

31 way back in the 80's Henry Rollins had multi-part series in Spin Magazine on printing your own records with small presses.
The bit that sticks with me was where he cautions that you should try to get your demo printed in the middle of someone else's run, or between pressings so the press will be warm. Which, he advises won't happen, since they want to do your short run first to warm the press for someone else who is paying for a big run, and it will sound like crap and you will go home to swear and break things.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2024 07:48 PM (D7oie)

32 Best cover: "Love is All Around" by Joan Jett
https://youtu.be/VlquhjCeVrk

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:48 PM (RIvkX)

33 Now I'm listening to a Feuerschwanz cover of Rammstein's "Engel." They add a Celtic flavor to the original song.

Gregorian also has a cover of "Engel" which sounds, appropriately enough, like Gregorian chanters. Pretty cool.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2024 07:49 PM (BpYfr)

34 I posted previously on another OT thread that Herb Alpert's Taste of Honey scared the crap out of me when it was playing in a dark empty house as the adults were all outside . It gave this 4 year old the feeling of birds or some animals about to attack . Yes weird but I still get a foreboding feeling when I here it to this day.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2024 07:49 PM (SHMXB)

35 OK, who has " The Best Gregorian Chants" on their playlist?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2024 07:51 PM (8i5Iz)

36 Very much dislike la la la whitebread pop.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2024 07:46 PM (8i5Iz)
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"I Think I Love You" by the Partridge Family
"Sugar, Sugar" by the Archies

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:53 PM (RIvkX)

37 Dire Straights is a band I wish I saw, do have a couple albums but sure Brothers in Arms is one I lost

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2024 07:53 PM (fwDg9)

38 You old fucking bastards, life did not cease when Jim Morrison, from the Doors, gargled everclear and heroin.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 22, 2024 07:47 PM (dmXQN)
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Talentless hacks.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:54 PM (RIvkX)

39 No Herb Alpert?

Now I wonder where that came from, since the A in A&M Records was Alpert, and they were responsible for pulling up a lot of obscure talent in the late 60's. Used to run a full-page in Rolling Stone, with shots of Tijuana Brass albums on one side marked "Still Our Meat" and The Doors, Tim Buckley and 20 others on facing page labeled "Try Our Potatoes." Herb Alpert was, perhaps the the primary A&R man of that whole generation.

He's about 90 now, and still plays a few dates a year, with that knockout wife who was once the lead singer of Brasil 66. Several years ago my kids went to hear him at Blue Note Honolulu -- 30 year olds going to hear this 80-something guy playing a vacation gig. And they reported that "He's still got it." As you nasty fat empty-head fucks say, "Hell of a show."

What is wrong with us? All day long it's about defending American culture, and then we turn snide and back-stab our own when we get a couple of drinks in us.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 22, 2024 07:55 PM (zdLoL)

40 You old fucking bastards, life did not cease when Jim Morrison, from the Doors, gargled everclear and heroin.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 22, 2024 07:47 PM (dmXQN)
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To your point, I admit my musical taste is very ossified. There was about 10 years I didn't listen to much besides Grateful Dead concert tapes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:56 PM (RIvkX)

41 Bjork and PJ Harvey, Nixsth
that's not music it's destruction.

Cowboy Junkies give me a hit.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 22, 2024 07:56 PM (mP6Ur)

42 23 lNot sure I have a favorite video“

OK.
Here’s my lineup, when I just feel like watching live music videos:
Stairway to heaven with Ann Wilson at the Kennedy Center.
While my guitar gently weeps for the George Harrison inductee ceremony for the R&R Hall of fame. Awesome with his kid, Jeff Lynn, Tom Petty, and Prince, who absolutely Shreds!
Look at Harrison’s kid’s face while Prince does his thing…
Simply Red. Older and a little heavier from back in the day, but the dude still can sing, audience participation is notable.
And my absolute favorite, Glenn Campbell doing Witchta Lineman with the South Dakota Orchestra ( I think)
This one definitely brings a tear to your eyes.

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 22, 2024 07:56 PM (cWet5)

43 What is wrong with us? All day long it's about defending American culture, and then we turn snide and back-stab our own when we get a couple of drinks in us.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 22, 2024 07:55 PM (zdLoL)
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I think you nailed it. Speaking of,

bourbon. I'll be back.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 07:57 PM (d04cU)

44 Elliotsmithia longiceps is a Permian synapsid discovered in 1913 and finally described in 1932, and has nothing to do with Elliott Smith from Heatmiser

In case anyone was wondering.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2024 07:57 PM (D7oie)

45 You old fucking bastards

Guilty as alleged.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 22, 2024 07:58 PM (mH6SG)

46 >>To your point, I admit my musical taste is very ossified. There was about 10 years I didn't listen to much besides Grateful Dead concert tapes.

An enlightened soul.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2024 07:59 PM (LkLld)

47 https://youtu.be/La-QiWzwgOM?si=-cTTKd0XcE5Az6AD

Doc tells Chet “Get one”

Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2024 08:00 PM (HNLv4)

48 What is wrong with us?

Is that not an existential question?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 22, 2024 08:00 PM (mH6SG)

49 2 oz of Knob Creek. The normal one. The 9-year bourbon.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:02 PM (d04cU)

50
What is wrong with us?

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What is wrong with me? What isn't?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2024 08:02 PM (MoZTd)

51
You old fucking bastards, life did not cease when Jim Morrison, from the Doors, gargled everclear and heroin.

Posted by: Dr. Bone

Tell us you're confused without mentioning you're confused!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2024 08:02 PM (UC3nL)

52 Speaking of covers - I recently stumbled across a British gal - 'Harriet'. This woman can sound exactly like Karen Carpenter.

Yesterday Once More
https://youtu.be/mwF_ooTJ0t4?si=BXTuf5ttfGmsp410

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2024 08:03 PM (WXNFJ)

53 OK, who has " The Best Gregorian Chants" on their playlist?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2024 07:51 PM (8i5Iz)
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I don't have that on my playlist specifically, but I do like the musical performances of Gregorian.

Ace posted a video of their rendition of AC/DC's Hell's Bells. I was instantly hooked on their music from then on.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2024 08:04 PM (BpYfr)

54 >>To your point, I admit my musical taste is very ossified. There was about 10 years I didn't listen to much besides Grateful Dead concert tapes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:56 PM

I have been a bluegrass fan for most of my life. Think how I feel.

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2024 08:04 PM (VGOMa)

55 I have been a bluegrass fan for most of my life. Think how I feel.
Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2024 08:04 PM (VGOMa)
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Like you wanna pull up stakes and move to East Tennessee?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:05 PM (d04cU)

56 Sigh. I need to go finish packing a suitcase. Anyone have a "music to pack by" recommendation?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:05 PM (d04cU)

57 R&B is for me!!!

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2024 08:06 PM (8i5Iz)

58 Yay, music.

I've got tickets to see Clapton in October.

Woo-hoo!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:06 PM (i+HwW)

59 OK, who has " The Best Gregorian Chants" on their playlist?
Posted by: Ben Had

For the real thing: Saint Andrew's Abbey Valyermo California

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2024 08:07 PM (UC3nL)

60 Nitro had some cool comps. And some of those songs ended up as album releases. They'd use early releases from headliners to promote the undercard acts at the label.

One of them (Go Ahead Punk... Make My Day) had one of my favorite Guttermouth songs on it, about a degenerate gambler:

https://youtu.be/4A0kjleNKpk?si=vnfEEV1ZGJc0gDsB

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2024 08:07 PM (0FoWg)

61 Sigh. I need to go finish packing a suitcase. Anyone have a "music to pack by" recommendation?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Born to be wild works.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2024 08:08 PM (UC3nL)

62 I'm sitting here wondering, would a matchbox hold my clothes

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:08 PM (/7KEl)

63 Weird performance? My vote has to go to Steve Vai vs. Ralph Macchio in 'Crossroads'.

I know it's a movie but how many time can one suspend belief in a fictional story?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2024 08:08 PM (WXNFJ)

64 Chet Leo & Doc

Thanks Tater

Posted by: kactus at June 22, 2024 08:09 PM (twS2i)

65 >>To your point, I admit my musical taste is very ossified. There was about 10 years I didn't listen to much besides Grateful Dead concert tapes.

>>Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:56 PM

>I have been a bluegrass fan for most of my life. Think how I feel.

>Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2024 08:04 PM (VGOMa)

Got you both covered.

https://tinyurl.com/2s322aea

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2024 08:09 PM (LkLld)

66 >>To your point, I admit my musical taste is very ossified. There was about 10 years I didn't listen to much besides Grateful Dead concert tapes.

An enlightened soul.
Posted by: JackStraw

Trouble ahead or behind?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2024 08:09 PM (UC3nL)

67 Just love Fall to Pieces. Watched that video dozens of times during a rough patch a few years ago. It seemed to express perfectly how I was feeling at the time until it was supplanted by Lifetime by Three Days Grace.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:09 PM (ftFVW)

68 A&R man

What is this?

Posted by: Rod Porkmore at June 22, 2024 08:09 PM (ViNgA)

69 I'm admittedly a dinosaur. I love what I consider good music. My tastes may not align with others, but I will always remain unapologetic for that. We tend to gravitate towards what moves us. It's all good.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 22, 2024 08:10 PM (mH6SG)

70 37 Dire Straights is a band I wish I saw, do have a couple albums but sure Brothers in Arms is one I lost
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2024 07:53 PM (fwDg9)

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Tom Petty.

Aerosmith.

(I know Aerosmith is still touring, but I've been burned buying $600+ seats for Aerosmith twice, only to see the show canceled because Steve Tyler got "sick.")

No more.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:10 PM (i+HwW)

71 I listen to the Mark Knopfler station on Pandora a lot. Excellent tunes.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at June 22, 2024 08:10 PM (FEVMW)

72 OK, who has " The Best Gregorian Chants" on their playlist?
Posted by: Ben Had

Ummmm, I do. Hours of them in fact.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2024 08:11 PM (WXNFJ)

73 You hear just a fill or a measure on a song, and you think "this sounds likeKnopfler'' and you check the liner and he's not on it, and then a while later you read that he just was sitting in and added a small piece.
He's got that recognizable a style.

Posted by: From about that Time at June 22, 2024 08:11 PM (4780s)

74 Old & In The Way

… like a lot of us

Posted by: kactus at June 22, 2024 08:11 PM (twS2i)

75 Nitro had some cool comps. And some of those songs ended up as album releases. They'd use early releases from headliners to promote the undercard acts at the label.

One of them (Go Ahead Punk... Make My Day) had one of my favorite Guttermouth songs on it, about a degenerate gambler:

https://youtu.be/4A0kjleNKpk?si=vnfEEV1ZGJc0gDsB
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2024 08:07 PM (0FoWg)
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Punk had a bunch of little labels for a minute. Big market, boomed, mushroomed, died - all in the space of about what? A decade?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:11 PM (d04cU)

76 Speaking of bluegrass, Billy Strings and Chris Thile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsOC2ecWe28

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2024 08:12 PM (VGOMa)

77 She Hobbit, I kept playing "Thank G-d and Greyhound you're gone"

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2024 08:12 PM (8i5Iz)

78 What is this?
Posted by: Rod Porkmore at June 22, 2024 08:09 PM (ViNgA)
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He's the guy says, "I don't hear a single."

Posted by: Tom Petty at June 22, 2024 08:13 PM (d04cU)

79 >>Trouble ahead or behind?

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2024 08:14 PM (LkLld)

80 70 Cicero

Dude looks like a lady.

Literally.

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2024 08:14 PM (NLIak)

81 For some reason, I find the idea of covering Daft Punk amusing.

Posted by: TRex at June 22, 2024 08:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

82 73 You hear just a fill or a measure on a song, and you think "this sounds likeKnopfler'' and you check the liner and he's not on it, and then a while later you read that he just was sitting in and added a small piece.
He's got that recognizable a style.

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Mark Knopfler is the most expressive guitarist out there. Not to mention, a true poet as a lyricist.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:15 PM (i+HwW)

83 Did well last night getting to bed on my schedule so better turn this off.
Have a great evening everyone and Rock on

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2024 08:16 PM (fwDg9)

84 What’s with all the old music? Don’t you listen to anything new? Lots of great rock from all over the world. Japan has some outrageous shredders. There’s symphonic like Therion. There’s a female singer for Hess who sounds like Dio. Many heavy blues bands like Black Moth and Black Road. Best female singer in America is Taylor Momsen from The Pretty Reckless. Experiment a little!!!

Posted by: JackWayne at June 22, 2024 08:16 PM (rLxLT)

85 Did well last night getting to bed on my schedule so better turn this off.
Have a great evening everyone and Rock on
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2024 08:16 PM (fwDg9)
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G'night, Skip!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:17 PM (d04cU)

86 Mark Knopfler is the most expressive guitarist out there. Not to mention, a true poet as a lyricist.

Agreed.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 22, 2024 08:17 PM (mH6SG)

87 >>Old & In The Way

>>… like a lot of us

Midnight Moonlight remains one of my favorite songs.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2024 08:18 PM (LkLld)

88 A&R Man--Artists and Repertoire

The part of a record company that scouts and develops performers and songwriters

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at June 22, 2024 08:18 PM (FEVMW)

89 What’s with all the old music? Don’t you listen to anything new? Lots of great rock from all over the world. Japan has some outrageous shredders. There’s symphonic like Therion. There’s a female singer for Hess who sounds like Dio. Many heavy blues bands like Black Moth and Black Road. Best female singer in America is Taylor Momsen from The Pretty Reckless. Experiment a little!!!
Posted by: JackWayne at June 22, 2024 08:16 PM (rLxLT)
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Throw in some links! I'll start! I also like The Pretty Reckless. It's virtually all about misbehavior, but hey, rock 'n roll.

https://youtu.be/_5aeuEtJ1r0

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:18 PM (d04cU)

90 G'nite, Skip.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 22, 2024 08:19 PM (mH6SG)

91 Evening.

Michael Schenker (with Slash and Erik Gronwall) - Mother Mary

https://youtu.be/z94FeCcvmrc

Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2024 08:20 PM (J7bmC)

92 hope you cool cats and kittens are digging some groovy sounds tonight

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:21 PM (/7KEl)

93 I took a survey once as to musical tastes and my answer came up “You quit listening to new music when Stevie Ray Vaughn died.” Sadly, that is true.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2024 08:21 PM (S6gqv)

94 Art Rondelet, there is a fun movie that involves aspiring musicians and an A&R man "Rock My World"

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2024 08:22 PM (8i5Iz)

95 3 No Herb Alpert?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2024 07:32 PM

If you haven’t already seen it, there’s a great 2-part documentary on MGM+ called “Mr. A and Mr. M: The Story of A&M Records”. I highly recommend it. I really enjoy learning the history of the recording arts.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 22, 2024 08:22 PM (rbKZ6)

96 Lush is a great track and graces several of my Spotify playlists.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2024 08:23 PM (szKLp)

97 hope you cool cats and kittens are digging some groovy sounds tonight
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:21 PM (/7KEl)
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What about losers? No love for the losers? Not even the beautiful ones?
https://youtu.be/5BRSTJeHwEk

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:23 PM (d04cU)

98 92 hope you cool cats and kittens are digging some groovy sounds tonight
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:21 PM (/7KEl)

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Queuing up the crazy stacks of wax as we speak.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:23 PM (i+HwW)

99 His A&R Man said "I don't hear a single."

Posted by: Tom Petty at June 22, 2024 08:24 PM (i+HwW)

100 Lush is a great track and graces several of my Spotify playlists.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2024 08:23 PM (szKLp)
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I think Lush was pretty cool. "Childcatcher" is super creepy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:25 PM (d04cU)

101 Knopfler has a very, very distinctive play style such that I can immediately recognize his songs within just a few notes of him starting to play.

Just a fantastic musician.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Love his score for the movie "Local Hero".

Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2024 08:25 PM (oaGWv)

102 PJ Harveyis very talented...you'd never know it from that horrid cover

Posted by: ziggggeeee at June 22, 2024 08:25 PM (DyyFt)

103 Commander Cody and His Lost Planer Airmen.

Throwback time.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2024 08:25 PM (W/lyH)

104 As for myself, I continue to follow my favorite group, The Little Known Band. Their latest album, Please Be Quiet is out now and available for streaming.

You probably haven't heard of them because they like to book small venues in a different town from you.

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:25 PM (/7KEl)

105 Now I'm listening to "Deionarra Theme" from the video game Planescape: Torment

That whole game has a very haunting soundtrack...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2024 08:26 PM (BpYfr)

106 Knopfler’s guitar solo at the end of “Tunnel of Love” tells you more than all the lyrics do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2024 08:26 PM (S6gqv)

107 My comments look like spam now, and rejected. Maybe pixie doesn't like bluegrass?

Posted by: From about that Time at June 22, 2024 08:26 PM (4780s)

108 Going through some old records that belonged to my parents and older brothers, came across this 45 and was surprised to find that I knew almost all the words. Guess I must have heard it a million times when I was a wee lass.

https://tinyurl.com/yxznvu5r

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2024 08:26 PM (3ImbR)

109 Love his score for the movie "Local Hero".
Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2024 08:25 PM (oaGWv)
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I just recently discovered he did the score for The Princess Bride.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2024 08:27 PM (BpYfr)

110 Oooooo, also like Pretty Reckless, though I tend more toward In This Moment for some good angry lady rock here lately.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:27 PM (ftFVW)

111 Oooooo, also like Pretty Reckless, though I tend more toward In This Moment for some good angry lady rock here lately.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:27 PM (ftFVW)
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For overly emotional or lachrymose, I love me some Amy Lee. Evanescence kicked ass.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:28 PM (d04cU)

112 You know who did some interesting covers was CCR

mm-hmm

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:28 PM (/7KEl)

113 And this one was a favorite of my mom and Aunt May. Pretty song. I remember them singing along.

https://tinyurl.com/v9664e8e

Alright, that's it. Enough nostalgia!

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2024 08:30 PM (3ImbR)

114 112 You know who did some interesting covers was CCR

------------

Midnight Special had been recorded by at least six other artists.

Originated by Leadbelly, IIRC.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:30 PM (i+HwW)

115 Some months ago I watched a video of Dimmu Borgir as a headliner at the Wacken Open Air Festival (not sure which year). they were backed up by the Czech orchestra and the Polish Choir (or the other way around, possibly). Say what you will about metal. These fookers know how to create music. Even if it's dark and creepy. And they do the 10,000 hours of practice.

I love metal music. Just gonna leave this here.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Ready for the Cart at June 22, 2024 08:31 PM (hZc6Q)

116 What music did you listen to while watching submarine races?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2024 08:34 PM (Rtbl4)

117 For overly emotional or lachrymose, I love me some Amy Lee. Evanescence kicked ass.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

*fistbump* She is hard to beat. Remember being encouraged by Evanescence as a young lassie. My singing voice is really only good for lullabies and chamber music, but Amy showed you could still apply that to rock. Not that I have nearly the strength or range as Amy. But still was nice to sing along and not feel like I sounded totally incongruous.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:34 PM (ftFVW)

118 Damn, Bob Seeger kicks ass. It's been a while since I've spun him up. I'll need to add him back into the rotation for a while.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:34 PM (d04cU)

119 I love a great, wide variety of music, but lack the detailed knowledge of this artist, that track, which album and so much etc., besides.

Worse, I'm a bit of a low-end snob as to the quality of audio playback. Good equipment matters. Doesn't have to be high-end, or super-powered. But clean, crisp, non-distorted, distinct "voicing" and correct rendition of instruments, subtle shadings of background effects, and more.

A modest, mid priced, well matched and balanced set of receiver or tuner & amp, playback device such as turntable, tape or CD player, the right speakers for the output and the listening space... when it all comes together right, it makes Magic, and makes the Music, Magical.

Not a "Pro Tip", cause I'm not a pro. But, find and KEEP your BEST...not necessarily your favorite music, but BEST test CD, separately cased and ready to go to the audio store with you. You know how Dark Side of the Moon sounds on your gear NOW. Then compare the same CD on stuff you're lookin' to buy. Using the exact same tracks helps you learn to "hear" the differences in various gear.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 08:35 PM (e6UQI)

120 117 For overly emotional or lachrymose, I love me some Amy Lee. Evanescence kicked ass.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

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Very unique style. I put myself as a fan of Evanescence.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:35 PM (i+HwW)

121 I like Gregorian chants

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 22, 2024 08:36 PM (Ka3bZ)

122 *fistbump* She is hard to beat. Remember being encouraged by Evanescence as a young lassie. My singing voice is really only good for lullabies and chamber music, but Amy showed you could still apply that to rock. Not that I have nearly the strength or range as Amy. But still was nice to sing along and not feel like I sounded totally incongruous.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:34 PM (ftFVW)
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Nice!

And yeah, if you look up "vocal power," you'll find a picture of her. Incredible control and projection, and she does it without screaming (usually). Screaming is cheating. It has its place and some people do well with it, but I always thought of it as a crutch.

But I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket with a lid nailed on it. That was inside another bucket. That was welded into a steel drum. So I really have no place to talk

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:36 PM (d04cU)

123 Barenaked Ladies did one of the most beautiful lullabies ever.

When you Dream.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Ready for the Cart at June 22, 2024 08:37 PM (hZc6Q)

124 CCR has covered

Little Richard
Screamin' Jay Hawkins
Wilson Pickett
Roy Orbison
Elvis Presley
Ricky Nelson
Dale Hawkins (no relation)
Lead Belly

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:38 PM (/7KEl)

125 But I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket with a lid nailed on it. That was inside another bucket. That was welded into a steel drum. So I really have no place to talk
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:36 PM (d04cU)

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You would be perfect for karaoke!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:38 PM (i+HwW)

126 ... Worse, I'm a bit of a low-end snob as to the quality of audio playback. Good equipment matters. Doesn't have to be high-end, or super-powered. But clean, crisp, non-distorted, distinct "voicing" and correct rendition of instruments, subtle shadings of background effects, and more.

A modest, mid priced, well matched and balanced set of receiver or tuner & amp, playback device such as turntable, tape or CD player, the right speakers for the output and the listening space... when it all comes together right, it makes Magic, and makes the Music, Magical. ...
Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 08:35 PM (e6UQI)
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This is getting to be a *serious* challenge. The old "middle class HiFi" market is nearly dead. There's low-end trash, midrange high-tech stuff, and ultra-premium stuff where the primary purpose of it is to boast about how much you spent on it.

If you're a dude looking to build a, say, $3,000 stereo, you're damn near SOL nowadays. I did it a few years ago (housewarming gift to myself) and the selection in the sub-$5k range for *anything* - let alone a complete setup - is a damn desert. Everything is Ferraris. Not many Camaros out there anymore.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:39 PM (d04cU)

127 For some reason my 80% black gym played Paradise City this morning.
Apocalypse Now is a great album. I wish I'd seen them live.

Posted by: Jamaica at June 22, 2024 08:40 PM (IG7T0)

128 yeah Bob Seger has that song that's really good

it's so good that it's a shame it's so short
should be longer

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:40 PM (/7KEl)

129 Having listened to a lot of karaoke, I have a huge appreciation for a professional who can actually carry a tune.

99% of the population is utterly hopeless at this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:40 PM (i+HwW)

130 You would be perfect for karaoke!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:38 PM (i+HwW)
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I have never been drunk enough for karaoke. I don't think it's possible. The space between "drunk enough for karaoke" and "passed out" is for me so narrow that it is purely theoretical.

I'm that bad and I know it. I would never subject someone potentially innocent to it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:40 PM (d04cU)

131 22
Music (and Musicians) You Love to Hate. Begin.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2024 07:45 PM

Dobie Gray.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 22, 2024 08:41 PM (rbKZ6)

132 What about losers? No love for the losers? Not even the beautiful ones?

Such a great song.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 22, 2024 08:41 PM (mH6SG)

133 I like Gregorian chants
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 22, 2024 08:36 PM (Ka3bZ)
~~~~~

Hah! I just blasted some Gregorian chants at the obnoxious dubstep some kids next door were playing about an hour ago. I like nearly all kinds of music, but dubstep is an obnoxious strobe-like sound that gives me seizures.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2024 08:41 PM (3ImbR)

134 Down to seeds and stems.
Again.

Posted by: From about that Time at June 22, 2024 08:41 PM (4780s)

135 https://youtu.be/NVSQCIEdKfU?si=bp0Gulz1O_Vt8mGu

https://youtu.be/PH4_UcaKK-o?si=uFKJIKFGka-ElLhh

Emily Nenni

Kind of bumped into her stuff on YTube. She's adorable and cute. I like her.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2024 08:42 PM (gllTv)

136 I have never been drunk enough for karaoke. I don't think it's possible. The space between "drunk enough for karaoke" and "passed out" is for me so narrow that it is purely theoretical.

I'm that bad and I know it. I would never subject someone potentially innocent to it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Have you considered rapping?

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:42 PM (ftFVW)

137 Have you considered rapping?
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:42 PM (ftFVW)

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LOL

Perfect

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:43 PM (i+HwW)

138 yeah Bob Seger has that song that's really good

it's so good that it's a shame it's so short
should be longer
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:40 PM (/7KEl)
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LOL. Story time.

I used to do bar trivia (I enjoyed it, might do it again now that I have plenty of free time courtesy of being unemployed). One night, the "quiz master's" laptop crashed so he had to improvise while it rebooted. He made up a question on the spot. The prompt was, "In the early 90s, this rocker - he's kinda lame - once made more money from General Motors than he did from album sales."

Without thinking, I stood up and pointed at him and shouted, "don't talk shit about Bob Seeger!"

He replied, "well, so much for that question. I'll remind people to *NOT* shout out the answers, please."

Then some dude at another table piped up with, "well, he has a point, you know."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:43 PM (d04cU)

139 Have you considered rapping?
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:42 PM (ftFVW)
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*snort*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:43 PM (d04cU)

140 Commander Cody and His Lost Planer Airmen.

Throwback time.

Guitarist Bill Kirchen lives in the Austin area and plays local dives when he's not touring.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 22, 2024 08:44 PM (/y8xj)

141 Been listening to Mastodon lately, their first four albums are unassailable, Crack The Skye has got to be in the conversation of best metal album ever.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2024 08:44 PM (XV/Pl)

142 Down to seeds and stems.
Again.
Posted by: From about that Time at June 22, 2024 08:41 PM (4780s)
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Commander Cody is another that's been out of rotation for too long.

I've always had to actively stop myself from humming or muttering the words to this one when I'm in an airport - which is hard, because I *always* want to do it, from the first time I ever stepped foot on an airplane. I was flying from Syracuse to Denver. Didn't matter.
https://youtu.be/vXXRjPUvZnY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:45 PM (d04cU)

143 134 Down to seeds and stems.
Again.
Posted by: From about that Time at June 22, 2024 08:41 PM (4780s)

But you still have gummies, right?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 22, 2024 08:45 PM (pIfcn)

144 ...But I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket with a lid nailed on it. That was inside another bucket. That was welded into a steel drum. So I really have no place to talk
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:36 PM (d04cU)

The last time I sang in the shower, the water curdled.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 08:45 PM (e6UQI)

145 if you are only used to the skinny/anorexic unsexy PJ Harvey, it will mess with your head to see the sexy, very leggy PJ!
https://tinyurl.com/y32m9vze

Posted by: ziggggeeee at June 22, 2024 08:45 PM (DyyFt)

146 But you still have gummies, right?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 22, 2024 08:45 PM (pIfcn)
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No love for the classics?

:: sobs ::

Posted by: Pot Brownies at June 22, 2024 08:46 PM (d04cU)

147 The last time I sang in the shower, the water curdled. ...
Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 08:45 PM (e6UQI)
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That's excellent. I'm taking it. I will not be providing attribution.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:46 PM (d04cU)

148 I like a lot of Narada Mystique records. Fit in with my tastes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 08:47 PM (u82oZ)

149 I like a lot of Narada Mystique records. Fit in with my tastes.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 08:47 PM (u82oZ)
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What do they do?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:48 PM (d04cU)

150 Every now and then, I belt out The Way It Used To Be.
A lonely table just for one
Ina bright and crowded room

Posted by: Jamaica at June 22, 2024 08:48 PM (IG7T0)

151 67 Just love Fall to Pieces. Watched that video dozens of times during a rough patch a few years ago. It seemed to express perfectly how I was feeling at the time until it was supplanted by Lifetime by Three Days Grace.
Posted by: She Hobbit

The late Scott Weiland really did Fall to Pieces. Dude was a mess.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2024 08:48 PM (gllTv)

152 if you are only used to the skinny/anorexic unsexy PJ Harvey, it will mess with your head to see the sexy, very leggy PJ!
https://tinyurl.com/y32m9vze
Posted by: ziggggeeee at June 22, 2024 08:45 PM (DyyFt)
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She softened nicely.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:49 PM (d04cU)

153 >>Guitarist Bill Kirchen lives in the Austin area and plays local dives when he's not touring.

https://tinyurl.com/4ay9v5sv

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2024 08:49 PM (LkLld)

154 Bjork is a weirdo, and I dismiss her words as the ravings of a lunatic.

Posted by: Gary Busey at June 22, 2024 08:49 PM (oRDb1)

155 Evanescence kicked ass.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:28 PM (d04cU)

You're the first person I've ever seen..."seen"...admit that openly.

Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2024 08:49 PM (zpoIl)

156 Dubstep is where I draw the line. Really, any of that techno dance* music. I love all kinds of music. But not that.

*PS that's not dancing, you're just high AF, you weird homo.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2024 08:50 PM (0FoWg)

157
When I was stationed in Japan, you were, at some point going to be singing karaoke if you were hanging out with Japanese folk.

Not a great singer but I can hold a tune so I'd go ahead and join in. And- BONUS! - no matter how bad you were, someone was always worse.

It was fun.

My selection was always limited though because the songbooks were always in Japanese. But, they always had "Country Roads", "Yesterday", and "My Way".

So, sappy songs....I was your guy!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2024 08:50 PM (eDfFs)

158 You're the first person I've ever seen..."seen"...admit that openly.
Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2024 08:49 PM (zpoIl)
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:: shrug ::

I'm way over being insecure about music LOL. She's got a hell of a voice and her band knows what it's doing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:50 PM (d04cU)

159 The problem with modern music is primarily modern music production.

It tends to be over compressed, over filtered, quantized and auto-tuned.

Ie, it sounds like music made and preformed by robots.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2024 08:51 PM (XV/Pl)

160 Right, Patsy Cline, "I Fall To Pieces"

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:51 PM (/7KEl)

161 ... Not a great singer but I can hold a tune so I'd go ahead and join in. And- BONUS! - no matter how bad you were, someone was always worse. ...
Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2024 08:50 PM (eDfFs)
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Ah, so one of those natural paradoxes that defy explanation. Like "no matter what, you're not the fattest person at Country Buffet."

It shouldn't be possible, but it is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:51 PM (d04cU)

162 I was at a lounge in Vegas last year watching a band doing covers of 70s and 80s rock. When they started playing something from AC/DC' Back In Black, Brian Johnson jumped up on the stage to finish the song.

That was pretty cool.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:51 PM (i+HwW)

163 The problem with modern music is primarily modern music production.

It tends to be over compressed, over filtered, quantized and auto-tuned.

Ie, it sounds like music made and preformed by robots.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2024 08:51 PM (XV/Pl)
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The destruction caused by the Loudness War has never been undone.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:51 PM (d04cU)

164 Odd stuff? Music out of New Zealand, of all places. Punk Pop?

The Veils, "Us in Leaves"
https://youtu.be/-FOI5IVuors

Plus Gin Wigmore.
https://youtu.be/u7aNKstBCM4

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2024 08:52 PM (/ZMUq)

165 ...If you're a dude looking to build a, say, $3,000 stereo, you're damn near SOL nowadays. I did it a few years ago (housewarming gift to myself) and the selection in the sub-$5k range for *anything* - let alone a complete setup - is a damn desert. Everything is Ferraris. Not many Camaros out there anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:39 PM (d04cU)

Which is why I've bought a professionally reconditioned, 1979 Sansui G-5700 receiver. Guts are like new, and the cabinet and faceplate look like it all just came out of the factory box.

Shopping speakers on the same basis. Recapped and refoamed, Olde Speakers become new. Especially if their cabinets and grills are minty, like new.

I'm not EVEN trying to shop audio in today's "new" market, for exactly the reasons you've so adroitly laid out.

I mean, why not buy the great gear from the era of Peak Audio, vs. the compromised crap that's sold, today?

Jim

Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 08:52 PM (e6UQI)

166 I really respect that Robert Plant "grew up". I got to thinking about this in a discussion elsewhere about, of all people, Eminem. I know a lot of you don't like rap, and I understand, but bear with me. Robert Plant isn't writhing around on stage making sexual noises like he did when he was in his early twenties. The old folks at the time hated it like many here hate rap, and for similar reasons. He aged, and his music aged as he did, gracefully and with class. He mellowed, and so did his music.

My question to the forum was "Will we ever see a rap artist grow older, wiser, and more mature, and have his music, performance, and lifestyle reflect this, even into his 70s?"

I'm not going to hold my breath. Rap is a young, angry man's genre. The Eminems and Ragers Against the Machine grow old and grey, but not mellow and wise. Their recordings and performances still showcase them yelling and angry, seemingly forgetting that they're in their 50s now, and greying.

Whoever does it first -- as an elderly rap artist, continues but does it in a way which reflects maturity, like Plant, or Clapton, or Elton John, or McCartney -- will have my respect. Doubt it will happen.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 22, 2024 08:52 PM (iRX3h)

167 Dubstep is where I draw the line. Really, any of that techno dance* music. I love all kinds of music. But not that.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2024 08:50 PM (0FoWg)
~~~~~

The only person who can dance to dubstep is Elaine Benis.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2024 08:53 PM (3ImbR)

168 I'm way over being insecure about music LOL. She's got a hell of a voice and her band knows what it's doing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Oddly, the main dude has a new band called We Are the Fallen with some other chick that sounds quite similar to Amy. He claimed it was different and going in a new direction than Evanescence. But that dude is delusional, it sounds just like Evanescence with an Amy Lee impersonator.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:53 PM (ftFVW)

169 ... I mean, why not buy the great gear from the era of Peak Audio, vs. the compromised crap that's sold, today? ...
Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 08:52 PM (e6UQI)
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Not all of it is compromised and there *is* value to be found, but it's rare. Klipsch still makes decent speakers at attainable prices (especially if you go factory refurbished, which I did for my home theater).

For my actual HiFi, I went with Magnepan. Their midsized speakers sound phenomenal (weak bass - get a sub or a bass panel if needed) and only set me back about $1,250 a piece after haggling with the dealer.

Maggie's big stuff, though, yowza.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:54 PM (d04cU)

170 @163

>>The destruction caused by the Loudness War has never been undone.

I'm a veteran of the loudness war... also... The Psychic War.

** Boom Boom Cha, Boom Boom Cha...

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2024 08:54 PM (XV/Pl)

171 Evanescence covering Fleetwood Mac's "Break the Chain:"
https://youtu.be/M2kgcpZX42w

They recorded it for the "Gears of War" video game.

We live in an odd time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:55 PM (d04cU)

172 Video killed the radio star.

Once MTV and videos came out it became more about the show and less about the music.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2024 08:56 PM (LkLld)

173 He's your oldest and your best friend. If you need him, he'll be there again.

Posted by: Beautiful Loser at June 22, 2024 08:56 PM (mH6SG)

174 ... I'm not going to hold my breath. Rap is a young, angry man's genre. The Eminems and Ragers Against the Machine grow old and grey, but not mellow and wise. Their recordings and performances still showcase them yelling and angry, seemingly forgetting that they're in their 50s now, and greying. ...
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 22, 2024 08:52 PM (iRX3h)
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Similar to punk in that respect. Punk rockers age, but punk doesn't. It basically can't. To "age gracefully," they'd have to pivot to something else, I think.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:57 PM (d04cU)

175 Right, Patsy Cline, "I Fall To Pieces"
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2024 08:51 PM (/7KEl)
~~~~~

A friend of mine used to sing "Crazy" at every karaoke as soon as the drink strengthened her. With a Bronx accent!

Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2024 08:57 PM (3ImbR)

176 Were The Kinks the first punk band? I saw it posited on the interwebz recently that this was the case. I like the Kinks well enough, but I'm not well versed in punk.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 22, 2024 08:57 PM (pIfcn)

177 The only person who can dance to dubstep is Elaine Benis.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 22, 2024 08:53 PM (3ImbR)

*Katie Couric has entered the chat*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:57 PM (e/j/n)

178 *Katie Couric has entered the chat*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2024 08:57 PM (e/j/n)
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:: sighs ::
:: mentally prepares ::

It's a living. I've got mouths to feed.

Posted by: Colonoscope at June 22, 2024 08:58 PM (d04cU)

179 Rap is nihilism.
They burn out or die.
Rap mellows like a sphagnum peat bog.

Posted by: Jamaica at June 22, 2024 08:58 PM (IG7T0)

180 I like these guys for interesting covers:

https://tinyurl.com/bdd8e9kc

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 08:59 PM (ftFVW)

181 We live in an odd time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Indeed. Consider heavy metal with 8-bit chiptune.

These guys perform live, too. Master Boot Record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owrSlbD4spE

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 22, 2024 08:59 PM (iRX3h)

182 170: My favorite BOC song!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2024 08:59 PM (gllTv)

183 I have never been drunk enough for karaoke. I don't think it's possible. The space between "drunk enough for karaoke" and "passed out" is for me so narrow that it is purely theoretical.

I'm that bad and I know it. I would never subject someone potentially innocent to it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:40 PM (d04cU)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF4O3Wt_3vo

Obligatory.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 22, 2024 09:00 PM (sRfrW)

184 Similar to punk in that respect. Punk rockers age, but punk doesn't. It basically can't. To "age gracefully," they'd have to pivot to something else, I think.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 08:57 PM

A very apt comparison.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 22, 2024 09:00 PM (iRX3h)

185 166 I really respect that Robert Plant "grew up"j
Posted by: Taq,

I remember buying Robert Plant’s album with The Honeydrippers. I was never a huge fan of Led Zeppelin but I could appreciate his voice and the range of his musical interests.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 22, 2024 09:00 PM (rbKZ6)

186 Joe Mannix...

I could fit some Klipsh speakers into the living room, here. Magnaplanars are right out though, as I lack the square footage and cubic volume for them to develop their sound.

As it is, I'm going to have to confine things to the larger sizes of "bookshelf" speakers, and maybe a very compact subwoofer, to make things work, here.

The classic size speakers, such as the Large Advent, most CVs and such, would just overhelm this space. Pity, cause the speakers I abandoned in the '99 divorce were Advent Heritage, tower speakers. And for a higher-end, consumer grade speaker, they were near perfect, for me. But alas, too big for here, now.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 09:01 PM (e6UQI)

187 Were The Kinks the first punk band? I saw it posited on the interwebz recently that this was the case. I like the Kinks well enough, but I'm not well versed in punk.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 22, 2024 08:57 PM (pIfcn)

Not really...but, their early stuff like "You Really Got Me" could've come from a and sounded like a modern punk pop group.

And...just about every early punk band played "You Really Got Me" at some point.

Maybe the Kinks were the spiritual godfathers of punk/new wave.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2024 09:01 PM (eDfFs)

188 I am dismayed that I didn't appreciate The Cramps until after they were gone. Been watching, listening to all their stuff on Youtube. Lux and Ivy could put on a show.

Posted by: People Ain't No Good at June 22, 2024 09:01 PM (V5BDR)

189 171 Evanescence covering Fleetwood Mac's "Break the Chain:"
https://youtu.be/M2kgcpZX42w

They recorded it for the "Gears of War" video game.

We live in an odd time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Amy Lee has got some serious pipes.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2024 09:02 PM (gllTv)

190 ... As it is, I'm going to have to confine things to the larger sizes of "bookshelf" speakers, and maybe a very compact subwoofer, to make things work, here.

The classic size speakers, such as the Large Advent, most CVs and such, would just overhelm this space. Pity, cause the speakers I abandoned in the '99 divorce were Advent Heritage, tower speakers. And for a higher-end, consumer grade speaker, they were near perfect, for me. But alas, too big for here, now. ...
Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 09:01 PM (e6UQI)
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Yeah. Magnepans need space, and I'm lucky enough to have it. Barely.

For "bookshelf" sized speakers, the hands-down best value I've seen so far are the Klipsch RP-600M.I don't know your budget, but they're available for under $700 a pair and they sound really good. You can do better, of course, but if you're looking at something new, they're the best "bang for the buck" that I've heard in living memory. A really well balanced speaker.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:04 PM (d04cU)

191 You want to see music critics immediately form,
do as I dd and sing the Witch Doctor Song in from of impressionable preschoolers, kindergarteners, and their own hardened teachers.

Just as I was finishing the refrain, a young pre-school boy I knew tugged my pants leg, and said "Mr. Salty we said nooo singing." In a voice of pain and despair.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:05 PM (u82oZ)

192 Obligatory.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 22, 2024 09:00 PM (sRfrW)
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Heh. Hadn't heard that one before.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:05 PM (d04cU)

193 Screw it. Time for another 2 oz of bourbon!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:06 PM (d04cU)

194 I sort of already knew Plant world evolve as he grew older, even when Zeppelin did "D'yer Mak'er". That use of reggae was a clue that he wouldn't be stuck in any musical boxes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwy07azI8nc

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 22, 2024 09:07 PM (iRX3h)

195 One "modern" type of electronic music, known as New Retro Wave, is truly superb. Based on 80's sounds and styles. Some have accompanying videos that serve to accentuate the beats.

Posted by: Gary Busey at June 22, 2024 09:07 PM (oRDb1)

196 Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

A lot of electronic jazz, dubbed New Ag at the time.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:08 PM (u82oZ)

197 A lot of electronic jazz, dubbed New Ag at the time.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:08 PM (u82oZ)
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Ah, okay. Right on!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:09 PM (d04cU)

198 For evolution I really like Aaron Lewis's country. Then again, maybe not exactly evolution since you can go back and hear the country hidden in a lot of Staind's songs.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 09:09 PM (ftFVW)

199 New Age. Sheesh.

New Ag is nothing to moo at: "I'm Going to Glory in a Glad Bag."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:10 PM (u82oZ)

200 One "modern" type of electronic music, known as New Retro Wave, is truly superb. Based on 80's sounds and styles. Some have accompanying videos that serve to accentuate the beats.
Posted by: Gary Busey

I've been on a Synthwave kick lately. If you put Master Boot Record Radio on Spotify, they're metal, but the rest of the playlist will be synthwave, which overlaps a lot with what you're talking about. Great music for driving long distances.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 22, 2024 09:11 PM (iRX3h)

201 I saw The New Agriculture open for Devo in '85.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:11 PM (d04cU)

202 ...For "bookshelf" sized speakers, the hands-down best value I've seen so far are the Klipsch RP-600M.I don't know your budget, but they're available for under $700 a pair and they sound really good. You can do better, of course, but if you're looking at something new, they're the best "bang for the buck" that I've heard in living memory. A really well balanced speaker.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:04 PM (d04cU)

They are indeed, on my list to review. And the price ain't bad, being about $100 more than I paid for those Advents, in 1995 dollars.

I've test-driven a lot of Wharfdale and Bowers & Wilkerson sets, and though there are values there, there's also a lot of overpricing going on.

Eliminated from consideratin: Polk Audio. They DO have some good stuff, but a lot of junk, too. I'm not going to do all THAT work to sort 'em all out.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 09:12 PM (e6UQI)

203 ... Eliminated from consideratin: Polk Audio. They DO have some good stuff, but a lot of junk, too. I'm not going to do all THAT work to sort 'em all out. ...
Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 09:12 PM (e6UQI)
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Yeah, Polk is *seriously* hit-and-miss. I had some tower speakers that were decent. I have a soundbar from them and it's unalloyed shit. It's sitting in a closet. I kind of don't even want to give it to Goodwill. It works, but then someone else would be subjected to it and be given a seriously perverted notion of how "good stuff" is supposed to perform. Just crap from end to end.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:13 PM (d04cU)

204 Gary Busey

Commander M turned me on to it. Lots of 2 hour tracks on You Tube. Well, when YouTube was watchable.

Adjacent too that is Space X ambient and jazz "Chillwave" music.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:13 PM (u82oZ)

205 Rick Beato interviews *the* go to live performance sound man for all the big names, Dave Natale. This guy is awesome, and Beato conducts an awesome interview...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEcx9gdhdbw

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2024 09:15 PM (SYTee)

206 Jim
You should check out Ascend Acoustics
Even their inexpensive ones sound better than most

Posted by: kactus at June 22, 2024 09:15 PM (twS2i)

207 I'd say the strangest music genre I've heard lately is Electro-Swing. Basically techno mashed up with big band jazz, and there's dozens of artists doing it.

I dig it, but rarely and in small doses. Lots of "WTF?" and "OMG how did they even do that?" but more than a little is too much, for me.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 22, 2024 09:16 PM (iRX3h)

208 Speakers I abandoned

KLH 6 pair

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at June 22, 2024 09:16 PM (HVU0s)

209 Christen Lavin is a Folk comic singer.

She has gotten me on stage (twice!) at the Birchmere in metro DC singing "Sensitive New Age Guys." What fun!!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:16 PM (u82oZ)

210 Which is why I've bought a professionally reconditioned, 1979 Sansui G-5700 receiver. Guts are like new, and the cabinet and faceplate look like it all just came out of the factory box.

Shopping speakers on the same basis. Recapped and refoamed, Olde Speakers become new. Especially if their cabinets and grills are minty, like new.

I mean, why not buy the great gear from the era of Peak Audio, vs. the compromised crap that's sold, today?

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX
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This is wisdom. Much easier on the pocket book as refurbing old speakers is pretty easy. Receivers putting new capacitors in and such requires either a deft hand in soldering or a repair shop.

Crossovers nowadays can be easily sent out for refurbing or even bought that way.

Belt drive turntables etc. are a snap to refurb in many cases with a little elbow grease.

And pots, sliders, contact surfaces, etc. Deoxit is the bomb in its various flavors. Super Lube synthetic grease does well on items like cd mechanisms and other such duties.

Posted by: whig at June 22, 2024 09:17 PM (/0X3E)

211 Another cover... Not a big Dierks Bentley fan but his cover of American Girl makes you wonder why Tom Petty didn't think to use banjo in that song.

https://tinyurl.com/557v94pv

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 09:18 PM (ftFVW)

212 Magna Carta Records were pretty reliable if you were into prog.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2024 09:18 PM (8sMut)

213 Natalie Imbruglia is not to be forgiven for that awful beaten to death “Torn”.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2024 09:19 PM (8sMut)

214 Natalie Imbruglia is not to be forgiven for that awful beaten to death “Torn”.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2024 09:19 PM (8sMut)
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Eh. Blame that on the DJs, VJs and music buyers...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:21 PM (d04cU)

215 Hey Joe Mannix, 'sidebar' question for you, since we're well past 100 comments. A year or so ago, you mentioned that you were looking for a way to get 'streaming' to your older stereo system. Since then, there have been a number of new devices to do that, some inexpensive, some quite expensive ;-(

An inexpensive example, the Logitech Wireless Speaker Adapter, available at stores such as Best Buy:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/
logitech-wireless-bluetooth-speaker-adapter-black/
5294033.p

A more expensive example, the McIntosh MB25 Bluetooth
Transceiver:
https://www.mcintoshlabs.com/
products/media-streamers/MB25

Did you ever make a decision / get streaming to work? In
full disclosure, I'm using the inexpensive Logitech device with an iPhone, to a passive preamp input, it works fine
with minor limitations.

(remove spaces from both URLs, since tinyurl has been difficult for my computer lately)

Posted by: gdgm+ at June 22, 2024 09:21 PM (w0+ZH)

216 202- I've test-driven a lot of Wharfdale and Bowers & Wilkerson sets, and though there are values there, there's also a lot of overpricing going on.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 22, 2024 09:12 PM

I bought my B&W floor-standing speakers years ago in San Francisco. They’ve held up really well.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 22, 2024 09:22 PM (rbKZ6)

217 That Bjork performance sounds like it started the trend of taking upbeat songs and turning them as slow and as unremarkable as hell.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2024 09:22 PM (8sMut)

218 Eh. Blame that on the DJs, VJs and music buyers...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:21 PM (d04cU)

Agreed.

And on her for creating it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2024 09:23 PM (8sMut)

219 Mapleshade / WildChild has quite an eclectic catalog that is extremely well engineered and mastered.
Putumayo has some nice collections too

Posted by: kactus at June 22, 2024 09:23 PM (twS2i)

220 ... Did you ever make a decision / get streaming to work? In
full disclosure, I'm using the inexpensive Logitech device with an iPhone, to a passive preamp input, it works fine
with minor limitations. ...
Posted by: gdgm+ at June 22, 2024 09:21 PM (w0+ZH)
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I did. My issue wasn't connecting a streaming service to my stereo, it was being able to stream my actual library - the one I own, on my own server - to stream reliably and conveniently.

I had an old Windows tablet I wasn't using anymore. I use that. It runs Kodi/XBMC connected out to my file share, and I use the "Kore" app on my mobile phone for remote control. It works fine. My amp/receiver has a digital signal path with a very good DAC and can act as a PC sound card. Sounds great, is reliable, is convenient enough.

For true streaming, I use a bluetooth receiver with an unmolested optical output. The problem with most bluetooth receivers other than tragically expensive ones is that the DACs suck. The clean digital signal going in comes out as a noisy, shitty, unbalanced analogue signal. My receiver has a good DAC, so I keep it digital and let it do the work.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:27 PM (d04cU)

221 And on her for creating it.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2024 09:23 PM (8sMut)
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LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:27 PM (d04cU)

222 Rick Beato interviews *the* go to live performance sound man for all the big names, Dave Natale. This guy is awesome, and Beato conducts an awesome interview...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEcx9gdhdbw
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2024 09:15 PM (SYTee)

Rick Beato certainly likes JSB. A lot.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2024 09:28 PM (rj6Yv)

223 Best cover of the 80s?

Toni Basil's cover of "Kitty", AKA "Hey, Mickey"

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2024 09:29 PM (rj6Yv)

224 You know who does good covers? Post Modern Jukebox, Lake Street Dive, Foxes & Fossils. Leonid And Friends. That’s who.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2024 09:29 PM (LHPAg)

225 On a serious note, off the beaten path music listening is so ephemeral.

Copyright restrictions and YouTube make getting music from your past hard, unless you have the CDs.

One example is Fourplay, where a folder of YouTube links are dead. Had to search, and what I wanted to hear is gone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:30 PM (u82oZ)

226 Joe, I'm glad to 'hear' your answer.

Posted by: gdgm+ at June 22, 2024 09:30 PM (w0+ZH)

227 Eromeo

Post Modern Jukebox can be very hot!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:31 PM (u82oZ)

228 Damn…that cover by Bjork reminded me of a cover of Satisfaction from circa 1987 with Justine Bateman at the vocals. Shown on MTV for a hot minute. Pretty good as I remember it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2024 09:32 PM (8sMut)

229 You know who does good covers? Post Modern Jukebox, Lake Street Dive, Foxes & Fossils. Leonid And Friends. That’s who.
Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2024 09:29 PM (LHPAg)
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Yeah, they can be cool. See also: Sershen&Zaritskaya

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:32 PM (d04cU)

230 Damn…that cover by Bjork reminded me of a cover of Satisfaction from circa 1987 with Justine Bateman at the vocals. Shown on MTV for a hot minute. Pretty good as I remember it.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2024 09:32 PM (8sMut)
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I had no idea she ever sang. In my mind, she's "Jason Bateman's Sister and she's in some stuff, I think."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:33 PM (d04cU)

231 OT but I'm at a truck stop across from a little restaurant I just ate a chocolate pie with meringue.

Delicious.

I grabbed a slice of pecan pie for the road.

It, too, looks delicious.

Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2024 09:33 PM (WBvYt)

232 OT but I'm at a truck stop across from a little restaurant I just ate a chocolate pie with meringue.

Delicious.

I grabbed a slice of pecan pie for the road.

It, too, looks delicious.
Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2024 09:33 PM (WBvYt)
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I remember dessert with longing. When I finish losing weight, I may dabble in dessert again. Something to look forward to.

Man, thinking about desert after having had a few drinks makes me *really* glad I'm not walking distance from a diner.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:34 PM (d04cU)

233 Saw Tom Petty four times . All great shows. Two were great but weird. The first was at SPAC and he was on a bill of the Del Fuegos and Georgia Satellites. I had lawn seats and two songs into Petty's set it started raining so hard you couldn't see the stage. The second time was at Orange County (NY) Speedway with The Replacements opening. It was a Petty crowd and while I loved The Replacements their music wasn't appreciated and they were booed off the stage . The came back out with lead singer Westerburg wearing a tutu. Petty came on laughing this ass off

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2024 09:34 PM (GeMrz)

234 Although we've moved on from the karaoke discussion... best karaoke I ever saw was a big dude in overalls with no shirt singing Christina Aguilera's Genie in a Bottle.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 22, 2024 09:36 PM (ftFVW)

235 Anyone familiar with Gorillaz, the virtual rock band created by Damon Albam and Jamie Hewlett? The two of them intended just to parody and insult MTV and the Boy Band phenomenon, but it turned into a 24-year-long wonder in its own right, ever-evolving and still going strong. Well worth a listen.

Posted by: John Drake Is Now Rounding The East Coast Of The Caspian Sea at June 22, 2024 09:37 PM (ENHQb)

236 FWIW, Just got through running Fre:ac encoder on Linux and it worked quite well going through encoding about 30 cds to a usb stick for a trip.

Pretty fast with a lot of options and audit-able code if that is your security thing.

Posted by: whig at June 22, 2024 09:37 PM (/0X3E)

237 Robert

Safe travels. Seems to be a lot of bad / new truck drivers on the road these days.

It doesn't help that intermodal is broken.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:38 PM (u82oZ)

238 OT but I'm at a truck stop across from a little restaurant I just ate a chocolate pie with meringue.

Delicious.

I grabbed a slice of pecan pie for the road.

It, too, looks delicious.
Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2024 09:33 PM (WBvYt)
Bluebonnet Cafe?

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2024 09:39 PM (LHPAg)

239 225 On a serious note, off the beaten path music listening is so ephemeral.

Copyright restrictions and YouTube make getting music from your past hard, unless you have the CDs.

One example is Fourplay, where a folder of YouTube links are dead. Had to search, and what I wanted to hear is gone.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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There are ways to download youtube videos which I suggest you might want to do if you see something you value.

Posted by: whig at June 22, 2024 09:39 PM (/0X3E)

240 whig

I'll look into it.

Links do not cut it. Possession of the data is where it is at.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:40 PM (u82oZ)

241 whig

Thanks!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:41 PM (u82oZ)

242 >>Copyright restrictions and YouTube make getting music from your past hard, unless you have the CDs.

This is why the Dead have such a loyal following to this day. Not only did they give their live shows away free they helped fans tape their shows.

There is an endless amount of stuff online.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2024 09:43 PM (LkLld)

243 @235 Clint Eastwood bby The Gorillaz is great, as is Feel Good Inc

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2024 09:43 PM (GeMrz)

244 Links do not cut it. Possession of the data is where it is at.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:40 PM (u82oZ)
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If you can't stand in front of it and defend it, you don't own it.

It's why I'm generally unfond of streaming as a general concept.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:43 PM (d04cU)

245 My dad was something of an audiophile, something I did not take after him. I do have his gear which I want to get refurbed and pass on to my son once he has a house with space for it.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 22, 2024 09:43 PM (/y8xj)

246 Rick Beato interviews *the* go to live performance sound man for all the big names, Dave Natale. This guy is awesome, and Beato conducts an awesome interview...

Very cool. Thanks for that.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 22, 2024 09:46 PM (mH6SG)

247 @235 Clint Eastwood bby The Gorillaz is great, as is Feel Good Inc
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Definitely - On Melancholy Hill and Dirty Harry were pretty awesome too.

Posted by: John Drake Is Now Rounding The East Coast Of The Caspian Sea at June 22, 2024 09:47 PM (ENHQb)

248 241 whig

Thanks!
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Saving youtube videos as keywords give you a bunch of options depending on what OS you are using. VLC is one such free software that operates on most OS's Windows, Linux, etc.

VLC is a pretty decent all around media player and not proprietary.

Posted by: whig at June 22, 2024 09:48 PM (/0X3E)

249 I hooked Mrs fd's old cassette / 8-track / tuner combo to some Klip RF-3s and it sounds better than a lot of new stuff I've heard. So much of what is supposed to be so great is like some digital photography. Artificially enhanced in a way that fails to convey the original experience.

My primary speakers though, that I bought in the 80s, I'll never replace. That pair of Klipsch LaScalas are all the speakers I need.

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2024 09:49 PM (vFG9F)

250 If you can't stand in front of it and defend it, you don't own it.

It's why I'm generally unfond of streaming as a general concept.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Ehh, lot of junk movies, tv shows, etc. that I don't care to store. As far as video is concerned, there are so many streaming options that it is getting hard to keep track of what is where.

Posted by: whig at June 22, 2024 09:49 PM (/0X3E)

251 Just skimmed the content and haven't read comments, but FYI, Plant and Krause are currently on tour together through Sep. 1. Info: https://tinyurl.com/44zr73s9

Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2024 09:51 PM (Q379z)

252 245 My dad was something of an audiophile, something I did not take after him. I do have his gear which I want to get refurbed and pass on to my son once he has a house with space for it.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Pop the top on some of the equipment like a receiver or crossover on speakers to make sure that you don't have dying capacitors leaking corrosive goop on the circuit boards.

Capacitors can be replaced---proprietary circuit boards from later 70's 80's, and 90's, are pretty hard and expensive to do so.

Posted by: whig at June 22, 2024 09:52 PM (/0X3E)

253 Ehh, lot of junk movies, tv shows, etc. that I don't care to store. As far as video is concerned, there are so many streaming options that it is getting hard to keep track of what is where.
Posted by: whig at June 22, 2024 09:49 PM (/0X3E)
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Sure. For purely transactional stuff, I dig it and I use it.

For anything I want in my library, though, I buy physical media or non-DRM download (if physical is not available) that I then maintain and back up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:53 PM (d04cU)

254 NOOD ONT

Thanks for a fun thread. I always enjoy subbing in for CBD on these :-)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2024 09:53 PM (d04cU)

255 249 I hooked Mrs fd's old cassette / 8-track / tuner combo to some Klip RF-3s and it sounds better than a lot of new stuff I've heard. So much of what is supposed to be so great is like some digital photography. Artificially enhanced in a way that fails to convey the original experience.

My primary speakers though, that I bought in the 80s, I'll never replace. That pair of Klipsch LaScalas are all the speakers I need.
Posted by: fd

I was pleasantly surprised to find some 80's era mix tapes using chrome and metal cassettes to not have lost much in punch contrary to my fears about a slow erosion of magnetism. Part of it is that analog degrades better than digital media but even mass produced cds that are nearing 40 years old are not generating errors when ripped.

Posted by: whig at June 22, 2024 09:55 PM (/0X3E)

256 Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Thank you for stepping up. In addiction, yo lightened his load.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2024 09:55 PM (u82oZ)

257 Sure. For purely transactional stuff, I dig it and I use it.

For anything I want in my library, though, I buy physical media or non-DRM download (if physical is not available) that I then maintain and back up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Heh. Now do software today. Most of it no longer has any media attached but you have to download it. A lot of smaller software companies in Windows that I have used in the past are moving to yearly licensing just like the big boys do.

Posted by: whig at June 22, 2024 09:57 PM (/0X3E)

258 Posted by: Common Tater at June 22, 2024 08:00 PM (HNLv4)

Thats probably one of my absolute favorite clips on all of Youtube, Leo always cracks me up, thru the whole song the look on his face is pure, "HOLY CRAP! i'M PLAYING WITH DOC WATSON AND CHET ATKINS IN A HOTEL HALLWAY!!" Leo with his left ear hearing loss, Doc blind I think from birth and Chet either with cancer or about to come down with it all just playing and having a great time, and I think I saw Chet tuning his guitar by feel, not knowing anything about guitars, I didn't even know that was thing you could do.

Posted by: Bob in Houston at June 22, 2024 10:11 PM (xOllw)

259 At this time it seems like Expression Engine is the preferred blogging platform
available right now. (from what I've read) Is that what you are using
on your blog?

Posted by: mainstream at June 23, 2024 03:14 AM (oNguU)

260 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at June 23, 2024 04:27 AM (NHMTR)

261 Bearsville Records never disappointed

Posted by: Baronov GrayMatter at June 23, 2024 01:23 PM (BQNyf)

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