Daily Tech News 18 June 2024

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The DOJ has filed suit against Adobe for hiding termination fees and making it difficult to cancel subscriptions. (Tech Crunch)

Well, sure, you do that. And when you're done, I've got a little list...

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The Surgeon General wants to put tobacco warning labels on social media. (NBC)

Let's just pretend you never said that.
Realtek has shown of its new 5Gb Ethernet switch chips. (AnandTech)

I mentioned just the other day that 5Gb Ethernet exists on PC motherboards, but 5Gb Ethernet switches don't exist at all.

The only option available is to find a 10Gb switch that supports 5Gb as well - not all of them do.

These new switches should be cheaper and use significantly less power than 10Gb, and 5Gb is still a pretty decent speed.
Understanding SPF, DKIM, and DMARC, a simple guide, Volume 1 of 37. (GitHub)

Wouldn't it be cheaper just to target spammers with cluster bombs?
Hackers are trying to extort money from Snowflake customers. (Bloomberg)

At least ten companies have received extortion demands. As many 165 companies have been affected by the breach, which Snowflake is still blaming on security practices of its users - none of whom have reported recent breaches unrelated to Snowflake.

Disclaimer: I do not think, therefore I do not am.

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1 First!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:04 AM (omVj0)

2 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 18, 2024 04:07 AM (UwckB)

3 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 18, 2024 04:07 AM (fwDg9)

4 from late in the ONT:

https://tinyurl.com/4j6wds2z

@JWheelertv
10h
BREAKING: A U.S. Secret Service agent was robbed at gunpoint over the weekend during Biden’s trip to California, police say

Posted by: m at June 18, 2024 04:07 AM (NHMTR)

5 Evening and morning to all the aoSHQ satellites across the system! Whass happenin' on Europa tonight?

I dreamed I was driving a Ford Econoline 150 delivery van like the ones I piloted for Purolator in the '80s. I was wearing civilian clothes, though. My difficulty was parking the thing close enough to the curb on a cross street just outside my apartment complex of today. Finally I got it settled. Then Miss Linda and I were taking the harness off my late big black cat Wolf, who was on the grass outside the van. Could I leave him outside the van for the night? We were worrying about leaving his red velvet collar on him, when I woke up.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:11 AM (omVj0)

6 GDay / GEvening

Adobe is run by gangsters.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at June 18, 2024 04:11 AM (T12tR)

7 The Surgeon General wants to put tobacco warning labels on social media.

Ja rite, mon

Posted by: Miklos would smoke the less-taxed item at June 18, 2024 04:13 AM (BbopU)

8 morning already? (groan.......)

Posted by: caf at June 18, 2024 04:13 AM (/+mVZ)

9 I dreamed I was driving a Ford Econoline 150 delivery van like the ones I piloted for Purolator in the '80s. I was wearing civilian clothes, though. My difficulty was parking the thing close enough to the curb on a cross street just outside my apartment complex of today. Finally I got it settled. Then Miss Linda and I were taking the harness off my late big black cat Wolf, who was on the grass outside the van. Could I leave him outside the van for the night? We were worrying about leaving his red velvet collar on him, when I woke up.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Not bad

Smiley face!

Posted by: raimondo's writing tutor at June 18, 2024 04:14 AM (BbopU)

10 The hell of it is, Wolf never wore a harness or a red velvet collar. What does it mean, doctor?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:15 AM (omVj0)

11 Damn. Warning labels? You think it's bad, those disfiguring warnings on tobacco products in the US? In Europe they put actual pictures of people with cancer and tumors on their mouths and gums *on the outside of the package*. Germany has a label in big black letters in German, "Smoking Is Deadly" ("Rauchen Ist Todlich") bigger than the name of the product.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:21 AM (omVj0)

12 G’night ….

Posted by: MiceElf at June 18, 2024 04:24 AM (TX4bP)

13 "As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I’ve got a little list—I’ve got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed—who never would be missed!"

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 04:25 AM (oaGWv)

14 "As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I’ve got a little list—I’ve got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed—who never would be missed!"
Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024

***
Tuna, what's that from? Gilbert & Sullivan?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:28 AM (omVj0)

15 BOING!

l8r

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 18, 2024 04:30 AM (UXgSa)

16 Tuna, what's that from? Gilbert & Sullivan?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Yes. It's a patter song from The Mikado

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 04:30 AM (oaGWv)

17 So the 5g thing would be awesome if it can meet the two tests:

First test: Can you make a 5g NIC that will work in a single lane PCIe 3.0 slot? My math says maybe, but that need-duplex thing might hurt it.

Second test: If it is possible to make it, will anyone actually make it?

Posted by: Qwinn at June 18, 2024 04:32 AM (VmtEf)

18 Tuna, what's that from? Gilbert & Sullivan?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
*
Yes. It's a patter song from The Mikado
Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024

***
I'm unfamiliar with their work, except for the lines about "A policeman's lot is not a happy one" and "I am the model of a modern major general." But it seemed more like a stage musical song than a poem.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:35 AM (omVj0)

19 @16

If you want a fine example of Gilbert and Sullivan patter song performance look on YouTube for John Reed. He could rattle those things off with barely a breath.

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 04:36 AM (oaGWv)

20 I'm unfamiliar with their work, except for the lines about "A policeman's lot is not a happy one" and "I am the model of a modern major general." But it seemed more like a stage musical song than a poem.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

The quote is from a song sung by the character Ko-Ko, The Lord High Executioner.

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 04:40 AM (oaGWv)

21 "When adolescents spend more than three hours a day on social media, we’re seeing an association with a doubling of risk of anxiety and depression symptoms," he said.

Maybe get the kids interested in cigarettes, drugs and sex changes instead!

Posted by: Bruce at June 18, 2024 04:41 AM (mCFMv)

22 I'm unfamiliar with their work, except for the lines about "A policeman's lot is not a happy one" and "I am the model of a modern major general." But it seemed more like a stage musical song than a poem.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
*
The quote is from a song sung by the character Ko-Ko, The Lord High Executioner.
Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024

***
The "policeman" one? Yes, a lot of mystery writers have quoted it; that's how I know it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:42 AM (omVj0)

23 Today is anniversary of Waterloo, so made French Toast

Posted by: Skip at June 18, 2024 04:42 AM (fwDg9)

24 It rained a little overnight here, and some yesterday, so the air -- already viciously humid -- is now as thick as butter with moisture. It keeps the temp down, but raises the humidity. Gah.

Anyway, one more day until the holiday. Tomorrow morning I have to run the car over to the tire shop, which will be open. One of the tire monitor sensors, or perhaps its battery, has gone out, and the yellow light and missing tire pressure figure is accusing me from the instrument panel of monstrous neglect.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:45 AM (omVj0)

25 The "policeman" one? Yes, a lot of mystery writers have quoted it; that's how I know it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

No. The policeman one is The Pirates Of Penzance.

Mikado takes places in Japan

Pirates of Penzance, The Mikado and The H.M.S. Pinafore are probably the most famous G&S musicals.

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 04:46 AM (oaGWv)

26 Today is anniversary of Waterloo, so made French Toast
Posted by: Skip

It's also the anniversary of Churchill's "Finest Hour" speech.

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 04:49 AM (oaGWv)

27 Tuna, what's that from? Gilbert & Sullivan?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Yes. It's a patter song from The Mikado
Posted by: Tuna

thank goodness

Posted by: Miklos did not read that in a Gilbert Gottfried voice at June 18, 2024 04:49 AM (BbopU)

28 thank goodness
Posted by: Miklos did not read that in a Gilbert Gottfried voice at June 18, 2024 04:49 AM (BbopU)

I laugh every time I read your hash.

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 04:51 AM (oaGWv)

29 The "policeman" one? Yes, a lot of mystery writers have quoted it; that's how I know it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

No. The policeman one is The Pirates Of Penzance.

Mikado takes places in Japan

Pirates of Penzance, The Mikado and The H.M.S. Pinafore are probably the most famous G&S musicals.
Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024

***
Clearly I got the references mixed up. I was sure some classical mystery writer (who may also have been confused) has a character say that Ko-Ko spoke the "policeman" line.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:51 AM (omVj0)

30 It's also the anniversary of Churchill's "Finest Hour" speech.
Posted by: Tuna

"Until the New World, with all it's power and might, comes to the rescue of the Old".

quaint

Posted by: Miklos Spencer Churchill at June 18, 2024 04:51 AM (BbopU)

31 No. The policeman one is The Pirates Of Penzance.

Mikado takes places in Japan

The Mikloskado takes place wherever the feather-light oriental ladies walk barefoot on his back.

Posted by: The Ordeal of Gilbert Miklos-Pinfold at June 18, 2024 04:54 AM (BbopU)

32 I laugh every time I read your hash.
Posted by: Tuna

For your dining and (especially) dancing pleasure.

Hors d'Oevre? Champagne?

Posted by: The Ordeal of Gilbert Miklos-Pinfold at June 18, 2024 04:56 AM (BbopU)

33 Good morning morons

Local TV news is all about a wildfire in Sonoma causing evacuations.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 04:59 AM (RIvkX)

34 Clearly I got the references mixed up. I was sure some classical mystery writer (who may also have been confused) has a character say that Ko-Ko spoke the "policeman" line.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

"
A policeman’s lot is not a happy one.
Ah!
When constabulary duty’s to be done—
(To be done)
A policeman’s lot is not a happy one—
(Happy one.)"

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 04:59 AM (oaGWv)

35 Hors d'Oevre? Champagne?

I forgot the Best Part

POP!

Posted by: Maitre d'Mikleuse with Frtz Feld POP! at June 18, 2024 05:00 AM (BbopU)

36 My daughter was involved with a company that produced Gilbert and Sullivan operettas when she was young. One of those "on the little list" was the "banjo serenader".

However, I bought a book of the original libretto and Gilbert originally wrote the "N****r serenader. Not surprised they changed that one.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 18, 2024 05:06 AM (Cp1vk)

37 POLL: Trump Takes Lead Over Biden in Vital Swing State of Pennsylvania

BREAKING

Biden takes swing at Pennsylvania, Fat

Posted by: MiklosWatch at June 18, 2024 05:08 AM (BbopU)

38 Western Lensman
@WesternLensman
OFFICIAL: The House has now held Merrick Garland in Contempt of Congress.

Here are three minutes of Democrats, Never-Trump Republicans and the media assuring us that defying a congressional subpoena means that you belong in jail and that no one is above the law

Posted by: 13times at June 18, 2024 05:08 AM (Bukd2)

39 Only problem is Pa starts voting Sept 22, that makes a long time to stuff in the system fraud ballots

Posted by: Skip at June 18, 2024 05:10 AM (fwDg9)

40 My daughter was involved with a company that produced Gilbert and Sullivan operettas when she was young. One of those "on the little list" was the "banjo serenader".

However, I bought a book of the original libretto and Gilbert originally wrote the "N****r serenader. Not surprised they changed that one.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly

Was it perhaps The Ohio Light opera Company?

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 05:11 AM (oaGWv)

41 Only problem is Pa starts voting Sept 22, that makes a long time to stuff in the system fraud ballots
Posted by: Skip

*buys Skip a good high capacity printer*

Posted by: Auntie Miklos, so very proud at June 18, 2024 05:12 AM (BbopU)

42 Was it perhaps The Ohio Light opera Company?
Posted by: Tuna

No, it was a small one in central Oklahoma.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 18, 2024 05:13 AM (Cp1vk)

43

The weather here in Wyoming is never boring. It's 30 degrees this morning. We bought flowers yesterday, I think we have to wait to plant them, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:13 AM (//riP)

44 And in 2020 approximately %.0001 mail ballots were tossed out, the reast counted

Posted by: Skip at June 18, 2024 05:14 AM (fwDg9)

45 44 And in 2020 approximately %.0001 mail ballots were tossed out, the reast counted
Posted by: Skip

Miklos is sending you a printer. Better get busy. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 05:16 AM (oaGWv)

46 And in 2020 approximately %.0001 mail ballots were tossed out, the reast counted
Posted by: Skip

Not between Atlanta closing and 4:46 AM

Now looky here

Posted by: Laquanda from Philly, and no you can not watch me at June 18, 2024 05:16 AM (BbopU)

47 The weather here in Wyoming is never boring. It's 30 degrees this morning. We bought flowers yesterday, I think we have to wait to plant them, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:13 AM (//riP)

Good Morning Four Seasons. We aren’t quite that low yet but it’s a jarring change from the beautiful warm weekend that we just had.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 05:18 AM (As+xM)

48 The weather here in Wyoming is never boring. It's 30 degrees this morning. We bought flowers yesterday, I think we have to wait to plant them, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:13 AM (//riP)

Good Morning Four Seasons. We aren’t quite that low yet but it’s a jarring change from the beautiful warm weekend that we just had.
Posted by: Pete Bog

Are these parts of the world with-

Visitor-I don't like the weather

Local-Fine, just wait an hour

Posted by: El Mikloso del Carolina del Sur at June 18, 2024 05:20 AM (BbopU)

49 We have had 3 days of sunny mild weather, which means the fog will come in today.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 05:21 AM (RIvkX)

50 Multiple places making fun of Raggity Karine saying the Sundowner freezing up videos are fake.

I am very surprised she has lasted this long, thought for sure she would have given up long ago. She has no shame I guess. Maybe she knows she has no where else to go.

Posted by: Skip at June 18, 2024 05:23 AM (fwDg9)

51 We have had 3 days of sunny mild weather, which means the fog will come in today.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

"the coldest winter I spent was a Summer in San Francisco"

Posted by: Samuel Langhorne Miklos-Clemens at June 18, 2024 05:23 AM (BbopU)

52 Multiple places making fun of Raggity Karine saying the Sundowner freezing up videos are fake.

I am very surprised she has lasted this long, thought for sure she would have given up long ago. She has no shame I guess. Maybe she knows she has no where else to go.
Posted by: Skip

The White House put a chick in it. Made her gay and lame.

Posted by: Miklos from South Trailer Park at June 18, 2024 05:25 AM (BbopU)

53 I am very surprised she has lasted this long, thought for sure she would have given up long ago. She has no shame I guess. Maybe she knows she has no where else to go.
Posted by: Skip

Word was out a few weeks ago they wanted to replace but she simply refused to step down. Some good leadership in that maladministration.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 18, 2024 05:26 AM (Cp1vk)

54 Good morning! Currently 76 out on the patio, on the way to 92 with lots of sun and few clouds. I bought some sunnies for the grand daughter to wear when we golf, and I think we're gonna test drive them tomorrow if all goes as planned.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 18, 2024 05:26 AM (YRsIm)

55

Hiya Pete!

We just moved back to Wyoming from South Carolina. We love it here and the weather is always interesting, lol.

It was a perfect weekend.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:27 AM (//riP)

56 Eventually the fog will come and stay, which is why we decamp to Sonoma in July and August.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 05:27 AM (RIvkX)

57 The White House put a chick in it. Made her gay and lame.
Posted by: Miklos from South Trailer Park

I swear that head mop of hers keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Posted by: Tuna at June 18, 2024 05:27 AM (oaGWv)

58 We just moved back to Wyoming from South Carolina. We love it here and the weather is always interesting, lol.
Posted by: four seasons

Where about if I may ask? Wyoming is one of my bug out locals.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 18, 2024 05:28 AM (Cp1vk)

59 We just moved back to Wyoming from South Carolina. We love it here and the weather is always interesting, lol.
It was a perfect weekend.
Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:27 AM (//riP)

Welcome back. Did you run into Miklos while in South Carolina? Maybe at the Waffle House?

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 05:30 AM (As+xM)

60 Amn't is a valid contraction for am not even though prudence and tact and good sense demand it shouldn't be.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2024 05:31 AM (BpZ5k)

61
Blutarski,

We are about an hour from the Utah state line, southwestern Wyoming.

Pete, no see Miklos. He was busy with his women, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:32 AM (//riP)

62 Hopefully today I will get done the tedious work
Another hot one so stay cool.

JT hope your alright out there

Forward Dog 9 out

Posted by: Skip at June 18, 2024 05:32 AM (fwDg9)

63 We just moved back to Wyoming from South Carolina. We love it here and the weather is always interesting, lol.
It was a perfect weekend.
Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:27 AM (//riP)

Welcome back. Did you run into Miklos while in South Carolina? Maybe at the Waffle House?
Posted by: Pete Bog

They can send me a post card in January.

If they even do mail in Wyoming in January.

How much is Purina Husky Chow?

Posted by: Miklos from Myrtle Beach at June 18, 2024 05:33 AM (BbopU)

64 Visitor-I don't like the weather

Local-Fine, just wait an hour
Posted by: El Mikloso del Carolina del Sur at June 18, 2024 05:20 AM (BbopU)

"I don't like the weather."

"It doesn't like you, either. "

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2024 05:34 AM (BpZ5k)

65 Blutarski,

I’m north eastern Wyo. Apparently it’s high on lots of bug out lists.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 05:35 AM (As+xM)

66 Pete, no see Miklos. He was busy with his women, lol.
Posted by: four seasons

Well there was that One Time at South of the Border

Posted by: Pedro sez at June 18, 2024 05:35 AM (BbopU)

67 "I don't like the weather."

"It doesn't like you, either. "
Posted by: Warai-otoko

I am trying to read that in a Henny Youngman voice

Posted by: Miklos vaguely recalls at June 18, 2024 05:36 AM (BbopU)

68 I just realized how thankful i am that no one calls the area north of the Mason-Dixon Line "Masie".

That would just be awkward.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2024 05:37 AM (BpZ5k)

69 Safe travels Skip

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 05:37 AM (RIvkX)

70 JT's presence is required

Posted by: the birds, money in beak at June 18, 2024 05:38 AM (BbopU)

71 How much is Purina Husky Chow?

Posted by: Miklos from Myrtle Beach at June 18, 2024 05:33 AM (BbopU)

Ranch and cattle dogs and bird dogs around here mostly. The occasional husky I guess.

An Occasional Husky sounds like having a tuxedo. Only occasionally useful but good to have on hand.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 05:39 AM (As+xM)

72 I am trying to read that in a Henny Youngman voice
Posted by: Miklos vaguely recalls at June 18, 2024 05:36 AM (BbopU)

Truth be told, i was going for Peter Stormare in that episode of Seinfeld where George is trying to save his Frogger high score.

But Henny also works.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2024 05:40 AM (BpZ5k)

73 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 18, 2024 05:40 AM (a1415)

74

The town here is so small we don't have mail delivery to the house. Everyone has a post office box.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:40 AM (//riP)

75 I just realized how thankful i am that no one calls the area north of the Mason-Dixon Line "Masie".

That would just be awkward.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Masie, Masie
Give me your answer, do
Have one country
Or shall we make it two?

Posted by: Miklos has never actually been on a bicycle built for two, much less the mandatory EV types at June 18, 2024 05:40 AM (BbopU)

76 I'm waiting for the President to be robbed a gunpoint. Since it can happen to the SS, why not grab a few billion from Uncle Joe like the Biden family does. Will he know he has been robbed?

Posted by: Colin at June 18, 2024 05:41 AM (/z/eU)

77 Will he know he has been robbed?
Posted by: Colin at June 18, 2024 05:41 AM (/z/eU)

Know? That's basically the new mechanism of presidential succession now.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2024 05:41 AM (BpZ5k)

78 The town here is so small we don't have mail delivery to the house. Everyone has a post office box.

Posted by: four seasons

First or Second World Problem?

VOTE NOW

Posted by: Clickbait MiklosCorp at June 18, 2024 05:42 AM (BbopU)

79 Amusingly, my wife and I are planning to move to Wyoming in the next few years. Keep the information coming!

Regarding Adobe and the subscription model. The best solution is to invest in the alternatives who only ask for one time payments.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 18, 2024 05:42 AM (OPGS/)

80

Colin, we won't know if that happens. We do know that we, the taxpaying citizens are being robbed.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:42 AM (//riP)

81 The town here is so small we don't have mail delivery to the house. Everyone has a post office box.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:40 AM (//riP)

We are a booming metropolis in comparison. We have mail delivery. Even in January. Post lady waves when you pass her on her route.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 05:44 AM (As+xM)

82 Enjoying nature- a reflection from the rabbis's daughter at "The international Fellowship of Christians and Jews"

https://tinyurl.com/wb86kswe

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 18, 2024 05:45 AM (zkHQx)

83 Robbed? When the robins come back to Capis..tru..banos, breakfast amigos

Posted by: El Presidente, Fat at June 18, 2024 05:45 AM (BbopU)

84

Amazon delivery here is interesting. Sometimes they decide there will be no home delivery, so everything is shipped to the post office. The post office is small and the employees get overwhelmed. Ya never know where your orders are, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:47 AM (//riP)

85 I have just realized that when a Biden utterance is indistinguishable from raimondo, the Streams will have been truly crossed.

Posted by: Miklos begins the countdown and betting pool at June 18, 2024 05:47 AM (BbopU)

86 Ya never know where your orders are, lol.
Posted by: four seasons

In the back, behind one thing and under another.

Posted by: Miklos hazards a guess at June 18, 2024 05:48 AM (BbopU)

87 Amusingly, my wife and I are planning to move to Wyoming in the next few years. Keep the information coming!.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 18, 2024 05:42 AM (OPGS/)

Four Seasons and I will host a Wyoming Q and A thread. There used to be three Wyoming morons, but one moved We can Talk about the quaint habits of the locals and the second winter syndrome that gets a lot of new migrants.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 05:49 AM (As+xM)

88 Morning, 'robs and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 18, 2024 05:50 AM (hoCmQ)

89 We had a flock of chickadees at our birdbath yesterday.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 05:50 AM (RIvkX)

90 or 'rons.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 18, 2024 05:51 AM (hoCmQ)

91 Making righteous choices- A devotional from "Guideposts" magaziine:

https://tinyurl.com/4eerzp4h

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 18, 2024 05:52 AM (zkHQx)

92 "My Doctor was a wife, you know, teacher, help my with my smelling"

Posted by: Biden Youth Outreach at June 18, 2024 05:52 AM (BbopU)

93 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 18, 2024 05:52 AM (dg+HA)

94 I've got a bluebird nest in the eave of my shed. All this nonsense and lists of iron clad rules for building bluebird houses, and the little shits are like, "nah, bro, we're gonna live with the tractor. "

Fine with me, little guys. Do your thing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2024 05:52 AM (BpZ5k)

95

The best thing about Wyoming is the feeling of freedom.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 05:53 AM (//riP)

96 or both robs and 'rons. Good morning, however you identify.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 18, 2024 05:53 AM (hoCmQ)

97 We had a flock of chickadees at our birdbath yesterday.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I read that in a W.C. Fields voice, with suggestive eyebrow raised.

Posted by: Miklos also has signs of a mis-spent youth, and can show 'em to ya at June 18, 2024 05:53 AM (BbopU)

98 I had lunch in Cheyenne in June once and there were snow flurries

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 05:54 AM (RIvkX)

99 The best thing about Wyoming is the feeling of freedom.
Posted by: four seasons

I call that boxer shorts.

Posted by: Miklos lets the boys out to play in the summer breeze at June 18, 2024 05:55 AM (BbopU)

100 I had lunch in Cheyenne in June once and there were snow flurries
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Snow bunnies>>>snow flurries

Posted by: Miklos happily concedes the Northern half of the country, as is at June 18, 2024 05:56 AM (BbopU)

101 Where's the report on how many quit smoking due to Surgeon Warning on pack of smokes? Cig's are sold behind a counter. Can't read the warning. Smokers don't care about the warning.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 18, 2024 05:57 AM (hoCmQ)

102 I was struck by the sign at the cash register that said "No Fighting"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 05:57 AM (RIvkX)

103 I was struck by the sign at the cash register that said "No Fighting"
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Presumptive indicator.

Like a neighborhood where they have bars on the windows.

Posted by: Miklos observes and considers at June 18, 2024 05:59 AM (BbopU)

104 I had lunch in Cheyenne in June once and there were snow flurries
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024

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When I lived in Denver, I drove up to Cheyenne one fine May day. The wind blew incessantly, and everything was closed.

To be fair, it was Memorial Day weekend.

How are house prices in smaller WY towns?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 06:00 AM (omVj0)

105
Our last night of the looooonnnnggg trip here, we stayed at Little America in Cheyenne.

I highly recommend the place. It is beautiful and quiet.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 06:00 AM (//riP)

106 102 I was struck by the sign at the cash register that said "No Fighting"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 05:57 AM (RIvkX

Well then I hope you struck whoever did it back with the "No Personal Cheques" sign.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2024 06:01 AM (BpZ5k)

107 Smokers don't care about the warning.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 18, 2024

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If I have a choice, and sometimes I do, I'll buy the pipe tobacco tin or pouch that doesn't have the text on it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 06:01 AM (omVj0)

108 How are house prices in smaller WY towns?

Yu an yo WYpipl towns

Posted by: Latoya Cantrell, real estate sales agent at June 18, 2024 06:02 AM (BbopU)

109

Wolfus, housing is costly where we are. It's a small area and not much housing available.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 06:02 AM (//riP)

110 Wolfus, housing is costly where we are. It's a small area and not much housing available.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024

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That's what I was afraid of. How about in Casper or Cheyenne or Laramie? Any idea?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 06:03 AM (omVj0)

111 Policeman in CA pursue a piglet:

https://tinyurl.com/2nwda5x6

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 18, 2024 06:03 AM (zkHQx)

112 I stopped at a red light in Casper once upon a trip, and four guys jumped out of the car in front of me and started fighting in the intersection. Entertainment like that doesn't come along very often.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 18, 2024 06:06 AM (rOVFP)

113 Tucker Carlson is just listening to Vincent Everett Ellison declaim.

He does a great job linking religion, race, and culture analyzing the current crisis.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:06 AM (RIvkX)

114 Prayer request- The husband ( B) of a friend of mine is having troubles at work.. Younger women are trying to force him out of the company. He's of retirement age but wanted to stay longer to provide for their adult daughter who has medical issues.

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 18, 2024 06:07 AM (aCEbO)

115 After watching Yellowstone I guess there is not much else to do there but fight.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:07 AM (RIvkX)

116 How are house prices in smaller WY towns?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 06:00 AM (omVj0)

Depends on which towns. A lot of Wyoming has suffered the same population decline occurring throughout the Midwest. There are a few towns that are growing rapidly and housing prices are fairly high.

That and all the Wyoming towns are smaller. Cheyenne is the largest and it has 65,000 people. That’s the 140th biggest city in California.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 06:08 AM (As+xM)

117 87 We can Talk about the quaint habits of the locals and the second winter syndrome that gets a lot of new migrants.
Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 05:49 AM (As+xM)

I lived in Montana for two years. Bring it on!

That being said, we are planning a trip out to Cheyenne or Casper early next year so we are there in the winter to make sure this is a good move. But we are getting out of the GPROMD one way or another.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 18, 2024 06:09 AM (OPGS/)

118

Wolfus,

I don't know. Best thing is to look at zillow and trulia.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 06:09 AM (//riP)

119 yo wut sup

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 18, 2024 06:11 AM (ENQN6)

120 That's what I was afraid of. How about in Casper or Cheyenne or Laramie? Any idea?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 06:03 AM (omVj0)

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My sister lives in Cheyenne. Prices are sky high.

Posted by: Molly k. at June 18, 2024 06:11 AM (j/yko)

121 Ellison is saying his father made the family into a gospel group, and they recorded three albums.

Wild.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:11 AM (RIvkX)

122 "Longmire", despite no Kelly Reilly attractions, is a good TV show, set somewhere along the southern part in Wyoming.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 18, 2024 06:11 AM (UlAse)

123
Tucker Carlson is just listening to Vincent Everett Ellison declaim.

He does a great job linking religion, race, and culture analyzing the current crisis.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:06 AM

That was so good. I made through all three hours, with some breaks here and there. If all people of color saw things the way he does it would end the (D)'s as a party of division.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 18, 2024 06:13 AM (RKVpM)

124 My sister lives in Cheyenne. Prices are sky high.
Posted by: Molly k. at June 18, 2024 06:11 AM (j/yko)
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Hold my beer.

Girl F. and SiL pay $4,000 for a 2Br 1 Ba 2nd story walk up with 1/2 garage.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:13 AM (RIvkX)

125 Beautiful Christian praise song "As the deer panteth" based on one of the psalms:

https://tinyurl.com/3bkrbbyb

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 18, 2024 06:14 AM (aCEbO)

126 Wolfus,

I don't know. Best thing is to look at zillow and trulia.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 06:09 AM (//riP)
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I have Zillow set up to alert me when the kind of place I'm looking for is listed.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:15 AM (RIvkX)

127 NR Pax,

I’m happy to fill you in on my neck of the woods. Wyoming is a big state with widely varying geography and climate. You may wish to cast your net more broadly than Cheyenne.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 06:16 AM (As+xM)

128
Ellison talks about black preachers and how they get paid by the (D) party to transport busloads of blacks to the polls. Something like fifteen dollars per person.

'Souls on the roll' - or something similar.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 18, 2024 06:16 AM (RKVpM)

129 Girl F. and SiL pay $4,000 for a 2Br 1 Ba 2nd story walk up with 1/2 garage.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:13 AM (RIvkX)
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Goodness, thats a lot. Has SF housing rent market softened at all with all the empty office space? (Which I assume means less high paying work)

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 18, 2024 06:16 AM (vS5Dp)

130 "We are about an hour from the Utah state line, southwestern Wyoming."

There are some mean ranch dogs not too far from there.

Posted by: KT at June 18, 2024 06:16 AM (rrtZS)

131 127 Pete Bog,

We were in Cheyenne for a vacation two years ago and the state really made an impression. We're not committed to that city; it's just what we know for right now.

Basically, as long as we have a medical center, a grocery store and decent internet access we're fine. I can look at telework jobs until I get old enough to take out from my retirement without penalty.

But if you'd like to chat outside of this site so you can go into more detail I'd be happy to learn.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 18, 2024 06:19 AM (OPGS/)

132 Hold my beer.

Girl F. and SiL pay $4,000 for a 2Br 1 Ba 2nd story walk up with 1/2 garage.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:13 AM (RIvkX)

.........

Thats insanity!!!! To put that into perspective, here in SD I live in a 4000 sq ft home on an acre. 5 bdr 3 bath. 3 stall garage. My property taxes for a year are only 1600 more than that.... for a YEAR.

Posted by: Molly k. at June 18, 2024 06:19 AM (j/yko)

133 Goodness, thats a lot. Has SF housing rent market softened at all with all the empty office space? (Which I assume means less high paying work)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 18, 2024 06:16 AM (vS5Dp)
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Not at all, that empty office space is work being done at home. She works at home most days and goes down to her office when she needs to. SiL works at home.

Commercial real estate is destroyed but residential is still very strong.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:19 AM (RIvkX)

134 If feeling OK plan to stop a d see about getting a new bird bath on way home

Posted by: Skip at June 18, 2024 06:21 AM (0Z771)

135 Commercial real estate is destroyed but residential is still very strong.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:19 AM (RIvkX)

I'm actually a little surprised that "Zoom room" hasn't become an official thing in real estate listings.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 18, 2024 06:21 AM (BpZ5k)

136
We sold our house to Open Door. It was a good experience. Did we get what we thought it was worth? No we didn't, but there were many good aspects of selling to them. One is we didn't have to deal with a realtor who comes in and tells you to do this that and another, adding expenses. Another was the deal was done in 6 weeks so by not listing with a realtor, we don't have the stress of the house being on the market for a long time. The other great thing about it was they buy it as is. The house was in great shape, needs some updating, but we didn't have to do any costly things. Depending on your situation at the time you want to sell, it can be the right decision.

Posted by: four seasons at June 18, 2024 06:22 AM (//riP)

137 Girl F. Is 3 years into her career with a Big 6 consulting firm and has never worked in a traditional office environment.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:23 AM (RIvkX)

138 This year the three of us will have to share the zoom room in Sonoma because I am doing a lot of meetings on Zoom now.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:26 AM (RIvkX)

139 Sounds like Adobe hasn't been making the correct level of political donations.

Posted by: Son of Dad at June 18, 2024 06:27 AM (8JB5s)

140 'Souls on the roll' - or something similar.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 18, 2024 06:16 AM (RKVpM)
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I'm there now. Its not slavery but it is serfdom.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:28 AM (RIvkX)

141 I'm unfamiliar with their work, except for the lines about "A policeman's lot is not a happy one" and "I am the model of a modern major general." But it seemed more like a stage musical song than a poem.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 18, 2024 04:35 AM (omVj0)

Those are from their third opera, The Pirates of Penzance. Many years ago, impresario Joe Papp did a modernized version for his "Shakespeare in the Park" project, which later became a movie with Linda Ronstadt and (IIRC) Angela Lansbury.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 18, 2024 06:29 AM (Q0kLU)

142 I saw Hamlet then wandered drunkenly through Central Park until I got to a subway station.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

143 NR Pax,

The southern part of the state is higher elevation, colder and generally a lot more wind than elsewhere. The southwest corner around Pinedale is growing and is lovely. Decent proximity to Idaho Falls and Salt Lake. I haven’t spent a lot of time there, but hear that the Jackson crazy hasn’t reached it too badly yet.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 18, 2024 06:32 AM (As+xM)

144 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 18, 2024 06:33 AM (3Fz6p)

145 G'morning everyone,

Got my morning walk in to beat the humidity and heat coming today. Now for coffee and content... (Thanks Pixy)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 18, 2024 06:34 AM (O7YUW)

146 And morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Got a pinched nerve or strained muscle in my back, which has been very painful and keeping me from sleeping the last couple of days. Trying Alleve and hoping it works, but nothing much so far.

I see, WRT to Gilbert and Sullivan, someone mentioned the patter singer John Reed. He was an excellent interpreter with crystal-clear dictation and is worth listening to. Being a bit older, however, my preference is for Martyn Green.

Anyway, time to work.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 18, 2024 06:36 AM (Q0kLU)

147 Linda Ronstadt did an interview some months ago talking about how her palsy has ended her ability to sing, to walk steadily and even eat sometimes.

Very difficult end stage to a glorious life. I hope she has her family around her.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 18, 2024 06:39 AM (803A3)

148 MPPP a prayer for speedy and complete healing

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:40 AM (RIvkX)

149 mornin yall. This morning I've already read about 3 restaurants that are closing stores. Bidenomics, baby. Something is going to break.

Posted by: fd at June 18, 2024 06:41 AM (vFG9F)

150 My buddies back east enjoy sending each other embarrassing photos from our lengthy past. They will digitize edit and caption photos from 1975. I just got one from Long Beach Island.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:43 AM (RIvkX)

151
MPPP:
Muscular pain for me is Naproxen and supplement with magnesium. Nothing else works.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 18, 2024 06:46 AM (RKVpM)

152 "They're apostates! They're weirdos, perverts, and malcontents!"
-Ellison referring to the Progressive Baptist Convention, MLK's splinter group

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 18, 2024 06:46 AM (RIvkX)

153 Thank you, Pete. I emailed your comment to the spousal unit. I'm hoping that next year or the year following, we get out of Maryland.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 18, 2024 06:46 AM (OPGS/)

154 I saw Weirdos, Perverts & Malcontents open for Earth, Wind & Fire at the Hollywood Bowl in '72.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 18, 2024 06:48 AM (3Fz6p)

155
D'uh. 'Aleve' is Naproxen.

Anyway...

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 18, 2024 06:48 AM (RKVpM)

156 The Biden administration is awarding $623 million in grants to states, local governments and tribes to help build an electric vehicle charging network across the nation. Grants announced Thursday will fund 47 EV charging stations and related projects in 22 states and Puerto Rico.” That breaks down to $13,255,319.10 per station.

On average, the cost to build a gas station is around $2.4 Million based on a 3200 sqft building.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 18, 2024 06:49 AM (ENQN6)

157 Nood.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 18, 2024 06:49 AM (U7wke)

158 >>>Disclaimer: I do not think, therefore I do not am.

; )

Posted by: m at June 18, 2024 02:13 PM (NHMTR)

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