Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, June 8

Above, from Neal in Israel, some lovely Alstromeria, a great cut flower that grows in his garden.

St. Martin's Lily: That's the plant according to the plant identifier app, though I haven't taken the time to confirm. I planted last year, and they bloomed from spring well into the summer. Now they're putting on a nice spring display, and I hope they'll once again continue flowering into the summer.

They should be well-adapted outdoors in Israel.

Below the fold, a few more flowers he has been growing.

Well, the hot weather predicted for a lot of California hit us on Thursday. The urban heat thing is real. The concrete around the house stayed hot after the sun went down longer than the air stayed hot.

How is your weather treating you and your garden?

From Neal:

Hollyhocks: I now have hollyhocks at a number of spots around the front garden. Some are carryovers from last year; some from self-seeding; some from seedlings I produced from last year's flowers.

Anybody else get self-seeding hollyhocks?

Lobelia and violas: Lobelia has established a presence on the basis of self-seeding, and flowers nicely in the spring. I planted violas from a nursery in the winter, and they're still going pretty strong thanks to lots of shade under the olive tree and what are still moderate temperatures overall.

Amaryllis: The bulbs planted in the garden have had a difficult couple of years. Some subterranean pest started boring in the bulbs, and during the past winter the snail population skyrocketed and devastated a lot of plants. The two strongest stands in the garden did flower well, but just as they were peaking we had a couple of days of sharav (masses of super hot and dry air which blow through Israel in the spring) which finished off the flowers before I could get some nice shots. So, all I can offer are staged photos of plants in planters.

Love that white one today.

Alstromeria with a bee.

Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

From By-Tor:

Container garden update- my salad bowl has sprouted in a week as have my sunflowers.
Not sure what kind of pepper this is but one tiny nibble has my mouth burning for about eight minutes. I think it's an habenero pepper, Scoville rating about 1 million (jalepeno is about 10K ).

Careful with those peppers!

Dug out this two year old jar of green tomatoes and made a tasty sandwich, perfect for a warm late spring afternoon.
Two years old and still as good as the day I canned them.

Anybody else can fried green tomatoes?

Art

Olga Kvasha, painting, "In the Field"

Gardens of The Horde

KT,
We had our Yucca bloom again this year, and since it only does so periodically I am assuming it is a result of the dryness of the spring. It is June 3 and we have had one storm in May and that, like so many early season rains, was short and not really rainy. Anyway it isn't much to offer but it is a lovely sight when approaching the front door.
About two months ago, I put in a couple of manzanillo olive trees. I have no desire to become the Polk county olive baron. I am more concerned with the effort required to harvest and then clean up the resulting mess. I chose these because of their silvery-green almond leaves and distressed trunks they are rather beautiful to look upon. Hopefully they will provide some character to the gazebo I have hopes of adding some day. With a little luck I will send in pictures of more mature trees in a few years, and maybe this won't be just an idea.
Best Regards,
rdohd

WOW!

Hoping that those olive trees grow just as you want them to!

Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, June 1

Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:29 PM

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1 Hello

Posted by: Live from Madhouse Farm at June 08, 2024 01:31 PM (o2zz+)

2 Hi

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 08, 2024 01:31 PM (o2zz+)

3 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Getting lots of peppers staring, no buds on tomatoes eyes.
And twas sure some dill was popping up but not as hopeful now.

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2024 01:33 PM (fwDg9)

4 Yo Skip. First year in the mountains, had bumper crop of veggies. Red cabbage my fav. Last year our veggies killed by bugs. (Aphids mostly) This year looks good. Heidi sees a bug and goes to war. Saw a grub and got nematodes. Lol.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 08, 2024 01:38 PM (o2zz+)

5 Potatoes and tomatoes are doing well. The cucumber is starting but the yellow squash and the zucchini are not happy. Might have to start over with them.

The each put out flowers, but are not actually growing and look sort of sickly.

bummer

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2024 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)

6 Heidi joined the Community Garden and they give classes. I did not know that some veggies do not like to be near some other types. Gees.

And don't touch the hairs on tomato stems when planting? The hell? Lol.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 08, 2024 01:42 PM (o2zz+)

7 One thing about perennial oregano is it gets bigger year by year. It's a shame how much I have and hardly use any.

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2024 01:42 PM (fwDg9)

8 I keep forgetting to send in pictures of my stuff. It's all (mostly) growing well, although one of my medlar trees suddenly had all its leaves die....I'm guessing that's a bad thing.

I've also had multiple trees grow out from the rootstock. I'm no expert, so I'm probably WAY too conservative with pruning, but I've noticed several trees that seem to have different leaves and fruit on one half and another lol.

Posted by: Grimmy at June 08, 2024 01:45 PM (QWk6e)

9
I got a compost container a couple of weeks ago. My wife is really into it, surprisingly enough. It's kinda amazing how she adds table scraps, I add leaves, and the volume keeps dropping. Eventually I'll add some 'red wiggler' worms who seem to enjoy compost. Then we'll catch some tasty fish from our worm garden.

She's already wiped out my early crop of spinach and leaf lettuce. Every day with the scissors out the door she heads. I get store bought, she prefers home grown.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 08, 2024 01:54 PM (RKVpM)

10 Just for fun we planted a yellow squash and cherry tomato seedlings in a container, not expecting much. Darned if we don't have squash blossoms and tomato flowers and the plants are thriving. Even if we get only a few veggies it will be a success.

The sweet basil we started as seeds indoors sprouted but haven't really developed. They went outside a couple of weeks ago. The seedlings haven't died but haven't developed either. Maybe we have a basil time stasis.

Posted by: JTB at June 08, 2024 01:56 PM (zudum)

11 Who knew! Even the weeds don't like multiple days over 105F!

We've been getting our yard work and all outside work done just after dawn.

I do owe some pictures though!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 08, 2024 01:58 PM (KWEqV)

12 No pics but my own tree work has been ... interesting.
Came home from the Yakima MOME last Saturday. A large piece of the trunk of my black hawthorn has split and crashed onto the fence. No real damage done but annoyed. Spent four hours Sunday morning cutting that up, I have a weed whacker but no chain saw. Looked at the remaining split but hanging on by a thread limb. Monday had forecast 30-40 mph winds with gusts to 50. Cut down the second limb. I've been cutting up branches for days.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at June 08, 2024 02:01 PM (PwcNq)

13 Getting lots of peppers staring, no buds on tomatoes eyes.
And twas sure some dill was popping up but not as hopeful now.

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2024 01:33 PM (fwDg9)

Staring peppers and tomato eyes sound kinda scary.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 08, 2024 02:04 PM (w6EFb)

14 We'll have to replant some corn, which may have disliked the heavy rainfall in the past week. Also some fill-ins on the green beans. I've got most of the tomato plants in place and they look happy.

I've got dill volunteers from last year in the raised bed. The crowns are beautiful. Need to resow for a fresh batch to use for pickling etc.

And some smoked whitefish on water crackers with mayo and reams of fresh dill. Mmm!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 08, 2024 02:08 PM (w6EFb)

15 I've got tons of blossoms on my various 'maters and a handful of tiny fruits on my Indigo Sun cherry tomato. The hot peppers are throwing out bambinos too.

The kale and lettuces are producing too quickly for me to eat.

And now, to plant more zinnias in the pollinator bed.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2024 02:10 PM (FkUwd)

16 You type in the sun and see how your words come out.

Working on truck body rust, 2nd filling done so will let harden , sand and look again at results.

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2024 02:10 PM (fwDg9)

17 Lovely photos and gardens as always! We're still cleaning up in Tyler from the catastrophic storm last Tuesday night - most people have got their power back on, finally. (even WeirdDave!)

two intense storm cells unexpectedly combined, amplified each other, and it was like a full force hurricane (85 mph winds) rolling through the city for nearly an hour.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2024 02:11 PM (q3gwH)

18 Alstroemeria flowers are a favorite cut flower at Kroger

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2024 02:13 PM (FkUwd)

19 And now, to plant more zinnias in the pollinator bed.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2024 02:10 PM (FkUwd)

We're putting rows of flowers in the vegetable garden. I can't wait to see how they do.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 08, 2024 02:17 PM (w6EFb)

20 I had a bunch of dried alstromeria pods hanging above my bed, and one morning I woke up in seeds. They'd popped overnight.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 08, 2024 02:18 PM (w6EFb)

21 Some of the rosemary plants we have in a container have put up flower spikes with little puffy flowers. The local bumble bees, especially the big fat ones, love them.

Bees amuse me. If any bug looked like it could not fly, it would be the bumble bee. But they just flit casually from flower to flower then, well-coated with pollen, fly off to wherever the hive is. Besides their many benefits, I think they were created just to confound physicists. That adds to their appeal and proves that God has a sense of humor.

Posted by: JTB at June 08, 2024 02:19 PM (zudum)

22 My corn looks lovely and thriving, but occasionally one of the stalks will lean over. I've never had this problem before. Maybe the soil is too loose?

Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2024 02:25 PM (Sf2cq)

23 I almost forgot
Good luck with squash, they takeover a garden and watch for the beetles, kill with extreme prejudice

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2024 02:30 PM (fwDg9)

24
My corn looks lovely and thriving, but occasionally one of the stalks will lean over. I've never had this problem before. Maybe the soil is too loose?

Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2024 02:25 PM

Same problem here with a couple. I just provide some support for them with a Y type branch poked into the soil for a few days.

Unless it's aliens trying to create a crop circle with your corn. I don't mess with those fellers. What they wanna do to ya is in the prior thread.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 08, 2024 02:31 PM (RKVpM)

25 Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 08, 2024 02:31 PM (RKVpM)

Thank you, DbZ (does anyone ever call you "undefined"?). I did have a couple of stalks recover after I propped them up.

Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2024 02:36 PM (Sf2cq)

26 In hell there is no internet. I’m in a restaurant scarfing up their wifi while waiting on Hogmartin. KT, that calendar page for June says more what I remember June being. Beauty, and peace. Not our progressive June, ugly, hateful.

Posted by: Eromero at June 08, 2024 02:43 PM (5VW1S)

27 The local bumble bees, especially the big fat ones, love them.

They seem to be the most hospitable of bees. Maybe its a self confidence thing. A bumble bee on the porch is no cause for concern. Leave it alone, and it'll do the same.

Not like a yellow-jacket ... certainly not a hornet. Or really, any other bee I can think of.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 08, 2024 02:43 PM (U6Sn/)

28 Yesterday I bought orange and deep purple Alstromerias for my wife. Nature's art.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 08, 2024 02:44 PM (TReD2)

29 The fried green tomato sammich looks yummy but where is the mayo. The flowers are beautiful as always.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at June 08, 2024 02:47 PM (bj34f)

30 Bumble bees are like flying teddy bears.

Honey bees are awesome.

I have to fight paper wasps (?) every summer, mostly in my shed. They are not overly aggressive and build small hives. But I've been stung by them more than a few times.

Had a nest of hornets under my house one year. Huge hive, but they were gone the next summer.

No yellowjackets. Which is good, because them fookers are nasty.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, with a drawer full of pieces of flair at June 08, 2024 02:53 PM (hZc6Q)

31 Yellow jackets and wasps are the junkie drifters of the buzzy world.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2024 02:55 PM (FkUwd)

32 No love for the yellow tomato ? Called the no acid tomato here.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 08, 2024 02:55 PM (U6Sn/)

33 Every year either yellow jackets or vicious wasps decide my mailbox is an ideal place to build their nests. Not this year. Curious.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 08, 2024 02:59 PM (0ZYe2)

34 We're putting rows of flowers in the vegetable garden. I can't wait to see how they do.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 08, 2024 02:17 PM (w6EFb)
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I've got marigolds, zinnias, snapdragons, and blue salvia tucked in on the perimeter of my tomato plot, and a row of sunflowers in between the two rows. They can give some shade to the 'maters when it gets really hot.

I also have a serious problem with overplanting, but the soil must not be suffering because my yield is always gonzo.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2024 02:59 PM (FkUwd)

35 Ah ... the honey bee. Yeah ... they're cool as well. You really gotta' screw with a honey bee to piss 'em off. They're just doing their thing. We get them along with the butterflies in the flower beds.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 08, 2024 03:00 PM (U6Sn/)

36 Yellow jackets and wasps are the junkie drifters of the buzzy world.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2024 02:55 PM (FkUwd)

What is their positive purpose? Any at all ?

Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2024 03:01 PM (SHMXB)

37 Regarding leaning corn, I think if you're going to prop it up to save it, you'll need a good stake. Most of the time the stalks put out those anchor roots at the base, and after that they're pretty sturdy (unless a varmint messes with them).

I don't bother since there's already too much corn, LOL! This year we only have to deal with one planting, thank God.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 08, 2024 03:02 PM (w6EFb)

38 32 No love for the yellow tomato ? Called the no acid tomato here.
Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 08, 2024 02:55 PM (U6Sn/)
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I love yellow tomatoes! Ive got Yellow Brandywine, Sungold, SartRoloise, and the aforementioned Indigo Sun (yellow with blurple shoulders).

Taxi is a great yellow tomato with even bright yellow fruit.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2024 03:02 PM (FkUwd)

39 The lily I discovered is a day lily. And the reason its leaves are so long is that it's not getting enough sun which indicates transplant work for me. Wonder it they would like to live in pots? They seem too big for pots.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 08, 2024 03:03 PM (0ZYe2)

40 I have a hollyhock plant, but i bought it as a rhizome(?). It's a blackish-purple bloom and WAS seven feet tall, until the wind and rain of earlier this week (central ohio). Now it's the leaning tower of hollyhock, though i have tied it to an upright stake, it's about done for the year, i think. Now I have to go figure out if I need to cut it down, and will it come back next year? If I learn anything, I will let y'all know.

Posted by: Appycay at June 08, 2024 03:09 PM (EdYR/)

41 Appycat, my black hollyhocks were beaten down by the rain one year so I cut off the flopped over bits but left some, and the plant recovered.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2024 03:11 PM (FkUwd)

42 Carpenter Bees... they're an issue here this year. Found bore holes on two 6X6 posts that hold up the porch roof. Filled them with acrylic caulking. They can't eat that.

Haven't seen much activity since I filled the holes, but I know they're still around.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2024 03:12 PM (Q4IgG)

43 Okay I looked up my own question. Wasps contribute to the environment by killing other insects and pollination.

Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2024 03:13 PM (SHMXB)

44 I also bought tall stakes with an arc of metal between them to brace up the hollyhocks as a bunch.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2024 03:13 PM (FkUwd)

45 Okay I looked up my own question. Wasps contribute to the environment by killing other insects and pollination.
Posted by: polynikes

I read hornets in AZ are cicada larva predators. (I don't know how they attack them underground.)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 08, 2024 03:16 PM (KWEqV)

46 All Hail Eris, thank you!

And, where are my manners....... K.T., thank you, as always, for the Thread. They're always so interesting, informative and fun.

Posted by: Appycay at June 08, 2024 03:17 PM (EdYR/)

47 Good call Appycay!

Thanks KT.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 08, 2024 03:18 PM (KWEqV)

48 I had the same kind of question about poison ivy--what purpose does it serve? Answer is, it provides berries in the fall for a lot of varieties of birds.

Posted by: skywch at June 08, 2024 03:18 PM (uqhmb)

49 I had the same kind of question about poison ivy--what purpose does it serve? Answer is, it provides berries in the fall for a lot of varieties of birds.
Posted by: skywch

And pain for all who forget what it looks like... or needs a bio-break in the forest!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 08, 2024 03:20 PM (KWEqV)

50 Do wasps like trumpet vine? Considering putting some in along the fence in back.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 08, 2024 03:20 PM (YRsIm)

51 My corn looks lovely and thriving, but occasionally one of the stalks will lean over. I've never had this problem before. Maybe the soil is too loose?
Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2024 02:25 PM (Sf2cq)

traditionally with the tall corn types, you are supposed to hill up around the base of the corn, they make specific implements for that.
I generally only had the problem with the stalks falling over when it rained extra hard, though back then I used to plant the corn extra wide to avoid needing to water so much so that might have had something to do with it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2024 03:24 PM (D7oie)

52 Nice tomatoes. Lobelias are blooming nicely here in N Illinois.

Little Meanie requested we plant a hibiscus and it's been flourishing all spring, but I don't know if it'll survive winter around here. Also planted a hydrangea in the garden--I keep planting them, and they keep dying. I think it's insects.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 08, 2024 03:24 PM (YIxO9)

53 Do wasps like trumpet vine? Considering putting some in along the fence in back.

They like White Trailer Park Trash ... the same way I like biscuits and gravy. So don't plant any of me.

Wasps and hornets are absolutely attracted to me. Not in a good way.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at June 08, 2024 03:26 PM (U6Sn/)

54 45 Okay I looked up my own question. Wasps contribute to the environment by killing other insects and pollination.
Posted by: polynikes

I read hornets in AZ are cicada larva predators. (I don't know how they attack them underground.)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 08, 2024 03:16 PM (KWEqV
What ever happened with the murder hornets? Succumb to some kind of bee kuru?

Posted by: Eromero at June 08, 2024 03:27 PM (5VW1S)

55 Yellow jackets scavenge but they also hunt and eat flies and other insects.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2024 03:27 PM (D7oie)

56 🐕 and 🐈 NOOD

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2024 03:33 PM (fwDg9)

57 Trumpet vine or clock vine..... seems like trumpet vine is pretty hardy here in NTex, but it's also poisonous for the dogs. Looks like it's gonna e clock vine.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 08, 2024 03:35 PM (YRsIm)

58 Eromero at June 08, 2024 03:27 PM

We have some sort of digging wasp around here. Don't know if they sting. I think they have blue eyes.

Posted by: KT at June 08, 2024 03:35 PM (rrtZS)

59 Well then, according to the Old Farmer's Almanac, hollyhocks grow from seeds, not rhizomes. So I'm not sure what I got, but it's definitely a hollyhock plant.
It does say but it's a perennial but that the blooms contain seeds, so perhaps I could multiply my stock by collecting up the spent blooms.
It also instructs to cut the plant down to the ground at the end of the season to keep things healthy.
Well, glad I got curious enough to do the slightest bit of digging.
Oh, and, Miley, hollyhock is related to okra! Makes sense, as both plants get ridiculously tall.

Posted by: Appycay at June 08, 2024 03:36 PM (EdYR/)

60 My mock orange is blooming, I love that shrub since it grows like a weed, and makes a thicket that the front yard grape climbs, every year.

I have transplanted most of my seedling and all my rooted sucker apple trees to larger pots, I am going to have to buy bigger pots or get some ground to plant them in. Not sure what I got since I basically saved a bunch of seeds from trees that had good fruit or were growing well in really harsh spots.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2024 03:39 PM (D7oie)

61 Its Always Been This Way at June 08, 2024 02:55 PM

Not all yellow tomatoes are "no acid". They vary quite a bit. Some are quite sweet.

The variety 'Lemon Boy' is especially recommended for fried green tomatoes, but it is picked green for that use.

Posted by: KT at June 08, 2024 03:41 PM (rrtZS)

62 Hello, Morons and 'Ettes. Thanks for the thread KT.

The new neighbor hired a guy to cut the lawn. My house number is one digit different from his. So I got a starter cut. He came by to see what not to cut out.

I dug out a 5 o'clock. He accidentally took out my "ghost fern" when he razed the overgrown flowerbed. I will be planting grass this coming week on that bare strip.

The sudden cool weather was not good for the peppers, but I have backups at work. Despite same soil, water and sun, some of the indoor pepper plants have gotten huge compared to the others.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 08, 2024 03:43 PM (gJoNf)

63 Appycay at June 08, 2024 03:36 PM

Hollyhock has a fibrous root that looks like a rhizome. It is a perennial (often short-lived), so it will sprout from the roots or from seeds. Some strains of hollyhocks live longer than others. There are some dwarf strains that bloom as annuals.

You can eat the flower petals. They are sort of gummy, like okra and other members of the hibiscus family. The leaves are too fuzzy, but you could probably cook and eat them, too.

My mother wouldn't let us grow hollyhocks when I was growing up, because she thought they were a sign of poverty (because they will grow by themselves, with no care).

Posted by: KT at June 08, 2024 03:51 PM (rrtZS)

64 Oh, and, Miley, hollyhock is related to okra! Makes sense, as both plants get ridiculously tall.

Posted by: Appycay at June 08, 2024 03:36 PM (EdYR/)

I prefer the single hollyhocks over the doubles, and of course the okra flowers are lovely, but short-lived.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 08, 2024 04:00 PM (w6EFb)

65 I always love Neal's photos.

I think that pepper is a habanero too, I may be wrong.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 08, 2024 04:43 PM (uHd5d)

66 KT, thank you for that additional info.
When the article I read said "edible", I thought, no thanks, those leaves would be way too tough. Interesting about the bloom. Now I have to go outside and inspect the plant more closely. I hope you're happy!
(Insert smirking smiley face here. I don't want to do anything that will send me to the barrel)

Posted by: Appycay at June 08, 2024 05:04 PM (EdYR/)

67 I was traveling for 2 weeks - got back and my red plastic mulch sheets had gotten unsecured and wiped out a quarter of my tomatoes - which I started too late indoors so I was already behind - had to hit the store today to do some replacing. Picked my second planting of radishes which were better than my first. Weeding around cucumbers and pea pods. About ready for the final roto till of the carrot bed. My pepper plants started were also late - and a some died - so I am playing catch up. Cool right now in north central Indiana - but hitting 90 by end of the week, and 70 at night, which tomatoes love.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 08, 2024 06:50 PM (UVyKP)

68 Alstromeria are also known as Peruvian Lillies. I buy bunches of them from a local florist, as they are my favorite flower, and they bring back fond memories of the years that I spent living in Lima, Peru. They last for two weeks, first week with tall stems in a tall vase, second week, stems cut in a short vase.

Posted by: Stinky at June 08, 2024 07:52 PM (xCOLA)

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