We've Got a New "Trust the Science Experts" Update, and It's a Doozy: Study Links Fluoridated Water to Behavioral Problems in Kids, and... Autism-Like Symptoms

Just perfect, guys.

Give yourselves all $5 million bonuses for sciencing so fucking good.

CBS LOS ANGELES - "A just-released University of Southern California study found that pregnant women exposed to fluoride have an increased risk of their child demonstrating behavioral problems." pic.twitter.com/ql7m5SjGvM
— Fluoride Action Network (@FluorideAction) May 21, 2024

Children exposed to fluoride in the womb were 1.83 times more likely to show behavioral problems with emotional reactivity, somatic complaints (such as headaches and stomachaches), anxiety and symptoms linked to autism. #pregnancy https://t.co/rIjhJB1kTF
— Keck School of Medicine of USC (@KECKSchool_USC) May 20, 2024

David Strom writes Fluoride. Autism. Linked.

The case for putting fluoride in water has always seemed particularly weak to me, not because there is no evidence that fluoride can strengthen teeth but because of its topical application mechanism. Consuming fluoride is actually bad for your bones and hence, your teeth, at least in higher quantities. It is called fluorosis. The NIH has a paper on the positive and negatives regarding fluoridation, which helps explain why it is very uncommon in Europe, where most countries have ceased the practice of adding the substance to drinking water.

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Fluoride as a neurotoxin has been proven in several animal studies. A 2006 National Research Council report stated that it is apparent that fluorides have the ability to interfere with the functions of the brain and the body by direct and indirect means.[19,20] This finding was confirmed by a study where groups of children exposed to 8 ppm fluoride in water were found to have lower average IQs, less children attaining high IQ, and more children affected by low IQ.[21] While 8 ppm is much higher than the fluoride level added to water in fluoridation programs (0.7--1.2 ppm), these results are in congruence with previous studies[22] from China that indicate that fluoride may affect IQ at lower levels.[23]

As you can see from this quote, the evidence that putting fluoride in water as opposed to mouthwashes or other topical applications is not just weak; research seems to indicate that too much fluoride is a positive danger.
I bet you never read that. I have refrained from writing about the subject because any reference to the dangers of fluoride are used to automatically discredit you. In fact, I have long suspected that the American obsession with debunking fluoride skeptics is rooted in a desire to not admit that the critics were right.

I will never trust government "Science" ever again.

They don't know what the fuck they're doing, and they're killing people and making kids autistic, just to justify their fucking salaries.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:33 PM

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1 First?!?

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at May 22, 2024 05:34 PM (pgwxJ)

2 There it is.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:34 PM (lX8VI)

3 Heh.

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at May 22, 2024 05:34 PM (pgwxJ)

4 My precious bodily fluids

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2024 05:34 PM (FQmDC)

5 My least favorite words in the English language have become "A study has shown".

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (lX8VI)

6 Get out of our pockets. Experiment on yourself, study the results and get back to us in 50 years.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (as3uC)

7 My wife and kid use a fluoride free toothpaste. If my wife sees this, boy am I going to hear it

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (zVPU+)

8 Was it the John Birch Society that was against fluoridation?

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (FQmDC)

9 Children exposed to fluoride in the womb were 1.83 times more likely to show behavioral problems

That would be every child in the US.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (ofCHO)

10 Science is great.

But there is a down side to Science-hype.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (krQz2)

11 Next thing they'll tell us is putting iodine in salt increases global warming.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 05:36 PM (nOjd9)

12 General Ripper was not a good example.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 22, 2024 05:36 PM (as3uC)

13 I've been saying this for a while. BUT, the primary issue with fluoride is that it shuts down the bodily process that creates testosterone. You might wonder at all the effeminate young men, men wearing dresses, flamboyant pride parades. Well, consider the massive increase in fluoride related products associated with "Teeth Whiteners" that exploded over the last half decade. Gosh, could there be a correlation.

Incidentally, the vast majority of sodium fluoride comes from China....just saying.

Posted by: Orson at May 22, 2024 05:36 PM (dIske)

14 Do you know what is good for you? Eggs, red meat, wine, and butter. Exactly the things they told you not to consume for the past 40 years.

I tend to do the opposite of whatever the government recommends, and it has served me very well for years.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:36 PM (lTGtQ)

15 As we used to sing:

Don't put fluoride in our streams,
Don't poison all our seas.
It's a Commie plot, you see
To get us orally.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 22, 2024 05:36 PM (1bNHn)

16 Are conspiracy theorists wrong about anything?

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:36 PM (lX8VI)

17 No way I can get in before the Gen. Jack Ripper comments.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (wzAuc)

18 Studies also show that kids that are brainwashed into embracing communism also are more likely to show behavioral problems and cuts their dicks/breasts off.

Posted by: Ponzi Scheme, Fonzi Schem at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (ynpvh)

19 My least favorite words in the English language have become "A study has shown".
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (lX8VI)

Pfft.

Posted by: Experts Report... at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (nOjd9)

20 Sap my precious bodily fluids will you? Why you I oughta…..

Posted by: Blutarski at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (Cp1vk)

21 Why did no one tell me this back in the day in S.A.?

Posted by: Kay Turner at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (8sMut)

22 cut, not cuts. damn fingers.

Posted by: Ponzi Scheme, Fonzi Schem at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (ynpvh)

23 Children exposed to fluoride in the womb were 1.83 times more likely to show behavioral problems

That would be every child in the US.

Posted by: rickb223

Except those on wells. You know, the backward rednecks.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (lTGtQ)

24 My least favorite words in the English language have become "A study has shown".
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (lX8VI)
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Because a vast amount of those will never be repeated and many can't be repeated.

People throw around the word "Science" too loosely, because it is the replication of results that turns research into the benefits we've actually received from Science

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (krQz2)

25 I did not have 'the fluoridation of water' guys as being right on my bingo card.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (xcxpd)

26 19 My least favorite words in the English language have become "A study has shown".
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (lX8VI)

Pfft.

Posted by: Experts Report... at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (nOjd9)

Especially in the hard sciences of sociology and psychiatry.

Posted by: Ponzi Scheme, Fonzi Schem at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (ynpvh)

27 Do you know what is good for you? Eggs, red meat, wine, and butter. Exactly the things they told you not to consume for the past 40 years.
--

Ice cream? Children's ice cream?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (wzAuc)

28 A new study has shown that people exposed to fluoride early on are more likely to believe the results of studies.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (lX8VI)

29 I've been saying this for a while. BUT, the primary issue with fluoride is that it shuts down the bodily process that creates testosterone. You might wonder at all the effeminate young men, men wearing dresses, flamboyant pride parades. Well, consider the massive increase in fluoride related products associated with "Teeth Whiteners" that exploded over the last half decade. Gosh, could there be a correlation.

That would be soy.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (ofCHO)

30 General Ripper smiles.

Posted by: Allen at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (BVsdH)

31 Fluoridated water is okay if you use it to wash down the leaded paint chips.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (nOjd9)

32 Studies show that 100% of people that drink non fluoridated water die.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (8sMut)

33 Anyone who doesn't trust the science is a threat to democracy.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (LkLld)

34 Okay, off sock. geesh

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (ynpvh)

35 My least favorite words in the English language have become "A study has shown".
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:35 PM (lX8VI)

Pfft.
Posted by: Experts Report... at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (nOjd9)
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This is TOTAL bunk!

Posted by: 70-Expert Open Letter at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (krQz2)

36 does every municipal water supply add fluoride?

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (KXtNg)

37 25 I did not have 'the fluoridation of water' guys as being right on my bingo card.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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So Buckley putting the kibosh on the John Birch Society was bad then.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (PkS4e)

38 32 Studies show that 100% of people that drink non fluoridated water die.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (8sMut)

Studies show that 100% of people the drink water will die.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (ynpvh)

39 >>>>Do you know what is good for you? Eggs, red meat, wine, and butter.
*******
The perfect breakfast.

Posted by: Crusader Rabbit at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (Jpaxf)

40 In the 2020s, "Science" has been equivocated.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 05:40 PM (krQz2)

41 Real science is seeking facts and truth, not pushing an agenda. When it pushes an agenda, it ain't science you stupid bitch.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 22, 2024 05:40 PM (pohLc)

42 Why would they put flouride in the womb?
Supposed to be in the mouth.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 05:40 PM (cOq4q)

43 Sometimes I brush my teeth going up and down instead of circular strokes.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 22, 2024 05:40 PM (J8LnB)

44 I read when I was a kid the autism rate was 1 in 10,000. Now it is 1in 34. Maybe y’all should work on that.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 22, 2024 05:40 PM (Cp1vk)

45 Do you know what is good for you? Eggs, red meat, wine, and butter.
*******
The perfect breakfast.

Posted by: Crusader Rabbit

I was once asked about my daily red meat intake.
I pointed out that I limited myself to once per meal.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:41 PM (lTGtQ)

46 does every municipal water supply add fluoride?

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (KXtNg)
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Absolutely!

Posted by: Flint, Michigan at May 22, 2024 05:41 PM (krQz2)

47 Seriously, I'd have to dig deep into this study to see how they severed their effects of fluoride from every other environmental exposure imaginable over the course of three generations. Not that I'm dismissing it. It just sounds like hard reading.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2024 05:41 PM (wzAuc)

48 16 Are conspiracy theorists wrong about anything?
Posted by: ...
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Batboy? The British Royal family owning the US corporation? I got others.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:41 PM (PkS4e)

49 39 >>>>Do you know what is good for you? Eggs, red meat, wine, and butter.
*******
The perfect breakfast.

Posted by: Crusader Rabbit at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (Jpaxf)

After my stress test, the doc offered me a paper with dietary guidlines; I said no thanks. He forced it into my hands anyway. Bastard. Why no, I refuse to follow (0 to 1) servings of meat/day...I ain't no vegetarian. I was also clear that I know my triglycerides are high, HDL low, LDL high, and cholesterol high and I don't care. One day I'll pay for my dietary sins, as it should be.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:42 PM (ynpvh)

50 31 Fluoridated water is okay if you use it to wash down the leaded paint chips.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (nOjd9)

All of us that are 29 years old know that we all probably ate lead paint. We all chewed on our cribs with lead paint. Maybe that's what's wrong with us? /s

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:42 PM (KXtNg)

51
I live on a well. Almost two hundred feet down - no fluoride. I check my IQ once in a while and it is above Joe Biden's by a factor which should keep me above his for the next hundred years. Maybe longer if I keep IQ decay to just 1 point per year.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 22, 2024 05:42 PM (RKVpM)

52 39 >>>>Do you know what is good for you? Eggs, red meat, wine, and butter.
*******
The perfect breakfast.
Posted by: Crusader Rabbit at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (Jpaxf)

Ewe fergot grits an a bourbon appetizer.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 22, 2024 05:42 PM (pohLc)

53 Just saw this
So much for trust the science

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2024 05:42 PM (fwDg9)

54 does every municipal water supply add fluoride?

Get on the bandwagon today!

Posted by: Big Fluoride at May 22, 2024 05:42 PM (nOjd9)

55 The greatest risk to transgendered gay couples of color is from fluoridated lube.

Posted by: Doc Johnson, MD, PhD at May 22, 2024 05:42 PM (FxINA)

56 Next thing they'll tell us is putting iodine in salt increases global warming.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 05:36 PM (nOjd9)

...

What my wife has been learning/reading recently is that thyroid issues are almost entirely iodine deficiencies. Doctors all know this but prescribe medication rather than just saying increase your iodine (which can be hard to do).

Floride blocks iodine intake.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 22, 2024 05:42 PM (z/ifB)

57 >>I read when I was a kid the autism rate was 1 in 10,000. Now it is 1in 34.

I doubt that too. A childhood diagnosis of autism is a ticket to a lifetime partnership with the pharmaceutical industry.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (LkLld)

58 I can't believe the people who promote promiscuous sex up men's rectums, anytime abortion and race rioting during a pandemic would lie to me.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (lX8VI)

59 Whig, I was wllowed but I want to both agree with you and make my own point (as I do)

from yesterday's discussion on communal societies: my take is that Utopianism of any stripe is the fallacy of believing that human interaction and social cohesion is scaleable

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (D7oie)

60 50 31 Fluoridated water is okay if you use it to wash down the leaded paint chips.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (nOjd9)

All of us that are 29 years old know that we all probably ate lead paint. We all chewed on our cribs with lead paint. Maybe that's what's wrong with us? /s

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:42 PM (KXtNg)

Lead tastes sweet; makes for delicious water...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (ynpvh)

61 Once they took the lead out of gasoline they had to find something to blame city dwellers mental issues on.

Hint - It being a city dweller.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (cOq4q)

62 To think of all the tinfoil hat wearing people who were bashed and called all sorts of ugly names because they said that fluoride was poisoning our water supply, who were, in fact, spot on as usual.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (3CVIc)

63 So Buckley putting the kibosh on the John Birch Society was bad then.
Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (PkS4e)
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More and more, I think so.

Most people don't know that the JBS would kick you out for showing racial animus.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (krQz2)

64 Seriously, I'd have to dig deep into this study to see how they severed their effects of fluoride from every other environmental exposure imaginable over the course of three generations. Not that I'm dismissing it. It just sounds like hard reading.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

My understanding is that the hormones they use for BC pills don't get filtered out of the water supply. If you want to find an answer to the falling testosterone levels, I would start there.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (lTGtQ)

65 Think the impetus to fluoridation came from Deaf Smith County Texas where the water is naturally fluoridated.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (PkS4e)

66
John Birch Society vindicated.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (MoZTd)

67 Crime 1: Food Pyramid
Crime 2: Climate Science
Crime 3: mRNA vaccines

Posted by: Max Power at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (q177U)

68 And Dr. Strangelove was supposed to be satire...

Posted by: Halfhand at May 22, 2024 05:44 PM (T4iZG)

69 36 does every municipal water supply add fluoride?

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (KXtNg)

__________________________

Well, in the last few months, Union County North Carolina removed fluoride from their drinking water....for some of the reasons listed above.

Posted by: Orson at May 22, 2024 05:44 PM (dIske)

70 I will never trust government "Science" ever again.

I was skeptical back in the Gulf when they gave certain vaccines to certain units based on likelihood of exposure to the certain scary pathogen despite the fact that we were all operating in the same AO. The COVID buffoonery sealed the government's fate, and huge section of the private medical field as well, for me.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 22, 2024 05:44 PM (YRsIm)

71 I still love Buckley's God and Man at Yale (1959), but I think his repudiation of the JBS might have been a power move or something.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 05:44 PM (krQz2)

72 I automatically discount/ ignore any studies of this sort… they are all politically/culturally motivated now.. a Soviet style situation.

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 05:44 PM (PCK5/)

73 72 I automatically discount/ ignore any studies of this sort… they are all politically/culturally motivated now.. a Soviet style situation.

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 05:44 PM (PCK5/)

What's wrong with a little Lysenkoism?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:45 PM (ynpvh)

74 Sure, your kid's an autistic rager, but his teeth are cavity free!

Posted by: The Science Man at May 22, 2024 05:45 PM (3CVIc)

75 "I will never trust government "Science" ever again.

They don't know what the fuck they're doing, and they're killing people and making kids autistic, just to justify their fucking salaries."

Oh, I think they know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (N39Ws)

76 These "breaking reports" will have the effect of making RFK Jr. a more appealing candidate among moms. Peeling off votes from Biden.

Posted by: Coki at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (Wkrcf)

77 Next year they may go after chlorinated water…

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (PCK5/)

78 I miss leaded gasoline...

Stopped using fluoride enhanced toothpaste about 5 years ago. No cavities. Anecdotal, I know.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (A2E7p)

79
Fluoridated water hasn't given me any behavioral problems and I'll kill any bastard who says different.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (MoZTd)

80
My understanding is that the hormones they use for BC pills don't get filtered out of the water supply. If you want to find an answer to the falling testosterone levels, I would start there.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (lTGtQ)

I bet you're on to something and I'm betting every water district doesn't test for things like estrogen. There are standard tests for drinking water where they look for coli form bacteria and lead and nitrates but I'm betting they are testing for hormones.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (KXtNg)

81 I will never trust government "Science" ever again.

They don't know what the fuck they're doing, and they're killing people and making kids autistic, just to justify their fucking salaries.

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"Just be glad I used puppies instead of caged deplorables to torture with sand flies, h8r!"

-- Dr. Faucistein, Mass-Murdering Mad Science Psychopath Awaiting His Presidential Medal of Freedom Medal & Ceremony

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (H4H7c)

82 Have you lost the ability to get a turgid penis when your husband comes home after a night out with the boys? Have you felt weak, hairless, uninspired and just want your mommy to come put you in your PJ's and read you a bedtime story? Well, you could be a victim of fluoride poisoning! We have a call center set up to get you the help you need! Call 1-888-SOFTONE today!

I want to get you money!

Posted by: Alexander Shunnarah, Billboard King And Ambulamps Chaser at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (R/m4+)

83 Batboy? The British Royal family owning the US corporation? I got others.
Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:41 PM (PkS4e)

Oooh I once came across a site with that British Royal Family stuff on it. To say the site had some rather... unsavory things to say... would be a colossal understatement. It's difficult to have an opinion that makes me squirm but those did.

Suffice to say there really are some kooks on our side. And I fucking hope to God they're not right. 🤣

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (lX8VI)

84 What's wrong with a little Lysenkoism?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:45 PM (ynpvh)
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It goes a long way.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (krQz2)

85 >>>>>Crime 1: Food Pyramid
Crime 2: Climate Science
Crime 3: mRNA vaccines
Posted by: Max Power at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (q177U)
*********
The food pyramid may be a greater crime against humanity than the vid and vax.

Posted by: Crusader Rabbit at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (Jpaxf)

86 You know what.

EVERY KID ON THE PLANET HAS ONE OR MORE SIGNS OF AUTISM.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (6yQ3Y)

87 Fluoridated water is okay if you use it to wash down the leaded paint chips.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 05:38 PM (nOjd9)

All of us that are 29 years old know that we all probably ate lead paint. We all chewed on our cribs with lead paint. Maybe that's what's wrong with us? /s
Posted by: CaliGirl

I recall seeing a movie (reel to reel projector) all the way back in 1st grade telling not to eat the paint.... it really struck me wondering, "Who would eat paint chips." and thought it really odd they would tell not to do something so weird.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 05:47 PM (cOq4q)

88 from yesterday's discussion on communal societies: my take is that Utopianism of any stripe is the fallacy of believing that human interaction and social cohesion is scaleable
Posted by: Kindltot

Yep. My ideal form of government is minarchism with free exit from incompatible jurisdictions. But I would rather have a monarchy or despot than a degraded republic like we have now.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:47 PM (PkS4e)

89 Stopped using fluoride enhanced toothpaste about 5 years ago. No cavities. Anecdotal, I know.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (A2E7p)

Since I started using Camp Lejeune water my cavities have completely disappeared, along with my teeth!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 05:47 PM (nOjd9)

90 67 Crime 1: Food Pyramid
Crime 2: Climate Science
Crime 3: mRNA vaccines
Posted by: Max Power at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (q177U)

And yet the lamp posts don't have ropes hanging from them. Huh.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 22, 2024 05:47 PM (N39Ws)

91 77 Next year they may go after chlorinated water…

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (PCK5/)

Estimated to cause 1 or 2 cases of renal cancer per 100,000 people in a 30-year period.
Number that would die from unchlorinated water? Much, much higher, unless you find another cost-effective disinfection method for large-scale potable water delivery.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:47 PM (ynpvh)

92 Well it must be fluoride because it couldn’t POSSIBLY be the COVID jabs

Posted by: Doc Fauci, PhD at May 22, 2024 05:48 PM (FxINA)

93 I don't see what the big deal is. I've known many Floridians and they all seem to be nice people.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 22, 2024 05:48 PM (2UnvF)

94 Studies show that 100% of people will die.

Posted by: AnonybotymousDrivel at May 22, 2024 05:48 PM (aXxgO)

95
My understanding is that the hormones they use for BC pills don't get filtered out of the water supply. If you want to find an answer to the falling testosterone levels, I would start there.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

__________

Forget it. Any study that embarrasses or inconveniences women is invalid.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2024 05:48 PM (MoZTd)

96 If you have an antique vehicle, like my 60's era Honda Dream, you can order tetraethyl lead on line. It also seriously boosts octane.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 22, 2024 05:48 PM (pohLc)

97 So basically since the early 1900’s the US government and our “betters” have made us:

Fat;
Ignorant;
Autistic;
Mentally Ill;
And Dead.

I think we need a new government.

Posted by: Czech Chick at May 22, 2024 05:49 PM (I6NNh)

98 If your of a certain age, you probably stood in the front yard as the mosquito fogger drove by spraying DDT in your neighborhood.

You soon realize humans really have no clue and are just winging it till something forces a change.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 05:49 PM (3CVIc)

99
My understanding is that the hormones they use for BC pills don't get filtered out of the water supply. If you want to find an answer to the falling testosterone levels, I would start there.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM

The whore moans (sorry, hormones) in BC pills make grls wanna have sex with guys who don't wanna marry. If you want to find an answer to falling marriage and birth rates, it might just be there.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 22, 2024 05:49 PM (RKVpM)

100 86 You know what.

EVERY KID ON THE PLANET HAS ONE OR MORE SIGNS OF AUTISM.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (6yQ3Y)

The fat ones have Ass-burgers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:49 PM (ynpvh)

101 That would be every child in the US.

Posted by: rickb223

Except those on wells. You know, the backward rednecks.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:37 PM (lTGtQ)

Unless your dentist said, "Hey, you're on a well. Better take these fluoride tablets."

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 22, 2024 05:49 PM (VGRuw)

102 Most people who grew up in south Texas have very few cavities. So much lime in the water, their teeth are like granite. Now, gum disease, sure. Probably more likely.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:49 PM (lTGtQ)

103
Grain alcohol and distilled rainwater.

Posted by: Gen. Miklos D. Ripper at May 22, 2024 05:49 PM (wWqRd)

104 Fluoride and aluminum, too.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 22, 2024 05:50 PM (w6EFb)

105 autism is correlated with a number of issues, from fluoridation to the child vaccine schedule. The real science is figuring out which of these things is not like the others, and what might be in common to most.
It seems to be linked to inflammation issues at a very young age, and crappy diets.

the more I learn about Fluoride, the more I want it out of the municipal water. It doesn't do much good administered that way, and it actually has some risks to the general public.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 05:50 PM (D7oie)

106 I would like to have NGU’s take on the matter…

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 05:50 PM (PCK5/)

107 If your of a certain age, you probably stood in the front yard as the mosquito fogger drove by spraying DDT in your neighborhood.

When CA began spraying Malathion over our neighborhoods to fight the dreaded fruit fly, I remember seeing some public official drink a glassful of it on TV. Thought it would calm the edgy public.

I always wondered what happened to that guy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 22, 2024 05:51 PM (nOjd9)

108
Oooh I once came across a site with that British Royal Family stuff on it. To say the site had some rather... unsavory things to say... would be a colossal understatement. It's difficult to have an opinion that makes me squirm but those did.

Suffice to say there really are some kooks on our side. And I fucking hope to God they're not right. 🤣
Posted by: ...

Embrace the term observational equivalence--we cannot always tell if someone is acting out of malice or stupidity nor can we really be sure of the truth in things beyond our personal experiences.

So you place you bet and spin the wheel. I always thought a dark inverted Game of Life version with the wheel and all would be amusing. For example, landing on go to college and study Grievance studies. You graduate and come out 100k in debt. Your job was offshored and you have to train your replacements for $100 severance. That sort of thing.

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:51 PM (PkS4e)

109 My school was built in the late 1800s and had lead paint and asbestos wrapping all the beams and pipes.

It's a wonder any of us survive.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 05:52 PM (3CVIc)

110 94 Studies show that 100% of people will die.

Posted by: AnonybotymousDrivel at May 22, 2024 05:48 PM (aXxgO)

Yes, but the question is: what did they die of?
https://youtu.be/oORNagSrlNs&t=67s

Posted by: Garak, talking to Bashir at May 22, 2024 05:52 PM (ynpvh)

111 Quick warning to any commenter tempted too make a snarky comment using the Keck USC School of Medicine in your name field--

Don't do it.

We don't need any more Keck Sockers.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 22, 2024 05:52 PM (991eG)

112 Are we serving paint chips here??

Posted by: raimondo! at May 22, 2024 05:52 PM (gKWVE)

113 OT: I don't suppose anybody is saying anything about Boeing's recent failure to get their spaceship off the ground...

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 05:52 PM (krQz2)

114 John Birch Society was right about everything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (Y5w1c)

115 EVERY KID ON THE PLANET HAS ONE OR MORE SIGNS OF AUTISM.

Posted by: nurse ratched

*rocks back and forth silently*

Posted by: Miklos, uncommunicative at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (wWqRd)

116 I will never trust government "Science" ever again.

They don't know what the fuck they're doing, and they're killing people and making kids autistic, just to justify their fucking salaries.

Close it up

Posted by Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:33 PM Comments

Now do the "we're going to give you diabetes" food pyramid.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (FCbAQ)

117 I grew up drinking fluoridated water out of a garden hose.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (seACy)

118 Most people who grew up in south Texas have very few cavities. So much lime in the water, their teeth are like granite. Now, gum disease, sure. Probably more likely.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:49 PM (lTGtQ)

Willamette Valley in Oregon, the water is terrible, it is depleted of most needful nutrients and old timers have terrible teeth. The dentists did find that cavities went down when they added Fluoride to the municipal water, but it is more useful for Fluoridation to be in things like toothpaste and rinses.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (D7oie)

119 98 If your of a certain age, you probably stood in the front yard as the mosquito fogger drove by spraying DDT in your neighborhood.

You soon realize humans really have no clue and are just winging it till something forces a change.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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"In 1971 two people in North Hollywood started eating DDT pills every day. That’s right, they willingly swallowed 10mg of poison every single day for three months. In front of witnesses.

From the Associated Press:

Robert Loibl and his wife, Louise, hold 10-milligram capsules of DDT which they took in front of witnesses for 93 days at lunch time, June 10, 1971. Loibl said their total dosage was more than the average person consumes in 83 years. He said his wife’s dandruff disappeared, their appetites perked up and they feel better. Loibl said they just wanted to call attention to the public that DDT was safe."

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (PkS4e)

120 My school was built in the late 1800s and had lead paint and asbestos wrapping all the beams and pipes.

It's a wonder any of us survive.

Posted by: AlaBAMA

There is nothing dangerous about lead paint if you don't eat it, and nothing dangerous about asbestos if you don't mine it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:54 PM (lTGtQ)

121 They should do a study on crack babies and autism.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 05:54 PM (cOq4q)

122 I used to paint houses as a summer job… lead paint really went on smoothly, better than the latex crap… the brush cleanup sucked though… we used gasoline.. wonder if it was leaded??

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 05:54 PM (PCK5/)

123 Studies show that 100% of people will die.

Posted by: AnonybotymousDrivel at May 22, 2024 05:48 PM (aXxgO)
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Never read them!

Posted by: Enoch and Elijah at May 22, 2024 05:54 PM (krQz2)

124 111 Quick warning to any commenter tempted too make a snarky comment using the Keck USC School of Medicine in your name field--

Don't do it.

We don't need any more Keck Sockers.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 22, 2024 05:52 PM (991eG)

Oh, stop being such a Keck blocker.

Posted by: Garak, talking to Bashir at May 22, 2024 05:54 PM (ynpvh)

125 Most people who grew up in south Texas have very few cavities. So much lime in the water, their teeth are like granite. Now, gum disease, sure. Probably more likely.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Their kidneys are granite, too.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 05:55 PM (seACy)

126 117 I grew up drinking fluoridated water out of a garden hose.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (seACy)

When did you die??

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 05:55 PM (PCK5/)

127 116 I will never trust government "Science" ever again.

They don't know what the fuck they're doing, and they're killing people and making kids autistic, just to justify their fucking salaries.

Close it up

Posted by Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:33 PM Comments

Now do the "we're going to give you diabetes" food pyramid.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (FCbAQ)

Ooh, ooh! I know the answer to this one!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:55 PM (ynpvh)

128 They should do a study on crack babies and autism.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 05:54 PM (cOq4q)

JUST SHUT UP!!!

Posted by: Greta Thunberg at May 22, 2024 05:55 PM (nOjd9)

129 Science me harder.

Posted by: Scampydog at May 22, 2024 05:55 PM (j2wou)

130 John Birch Society was right about everything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (Y5w1c)
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Probably.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 05:55 PM (krQz2)

131 Bacon Jeff >>> Chem Jeff

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 22, 2024 05:55 PM (u82oZ)

132 An apple a day keeps the doctor away (depending on how good your throwing arm is).

Posted by: Orson at May 22, 2024 05:56 PM (dIske)

133 I'm almost certain there's other external issues affecting kids other than fluoride in the water.

Like insane teachers, parents, social media....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2024 05:56 PM (Q4IgG)

134 118 Most people who grew up in south Texas have very few cavities. So much lime in the water, their teeth are like granite. Now, gum disease, sure. Probably more likely.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:49 PM (lTGtQ)

Willamette Valley in Oregon, the water is terrible, it is depleted of most needful nutrients and old timers have terrible teeth. The dentists did find that cavities went down when they added Fluoride to the municipal water, but it is more useful for Fluoridation to be in things like toothpaste and rinses.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (D7oie)

Yup. Swished and spit out, not swallowed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:56 PM (ynpvh)

135 does every municipal water supply add fluoride?

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (KXtNg)

Portland Oregon doesn't.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 05:57 PM (D7oie)

136 Gee, missed a perfect Kumala Sock opportunity there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:57 PM (ynpvh)

137 "This finding was confirmed by a study where groups of children exposed to 8 ppm fluoride in water were found to have lower average IQs, less children attaining high IQ, and more children affected by low IQ.[21] While 8 ppm is much higher than the fluoride level added to water in fluoridation programs (0.7--1.2 ppm),..."

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Where did these children who were exposed to 8ppm in water come from if that is 8 times higher than the average exposure of .07 to 1.2 ppm?

Posted by: javems at May 22, 2024 05:57 PM (8I4hW)

138 Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:51 PM (PkS4e)

As usual you are over my head and I have to work to understand it. But I got there LOL

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 05:57 PM (lX8VI)

139 Fortunately for SCIENCE™, the researchers' computer models negated and/or ignored any possible confounding variables that may have occurred between the in utero exposure to fluoride in the maternal drinking water and the headache in the second grade.

Also any self reporting bias.

(Do I really need a /sarc tag?)

Posted by: Muldoon at May 22, 2024 05:57 PM (991eG)

140 119 98 If your of a certain age, you probably stood in the front yard as the mosquito fogger drove by spraying DDT in your neighborhood.

You soon realize humans really have no clue and are just winging it till something forces a change.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
-------
"In 1971 two people in North Hollywood started eating DDT pills every day. That’s right, they willingly swallowed 10mg of poison every single day for three months. In front of witnesses.

From the Associated Press:

Robert Loibl and his wife, Louise, hold 10-milligram capsules of DDT which they took in front of witnesses for 93 days at lunch time, June 10, 1971. Loibl said their total dosage was more than the average person consumes in 83 years. He said his wife’s dandruff disappeared, their appetites perked up and they feel better. Loibl said they just wanted to call attention to the public that DDT was safe."

Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (PkS4e)

Prolly killed all the internal parasites.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:57 PM (ynpvh)

141 Would a heavily fluoridated Moron glow under a black light?

I mean, aside from the usual Jason Pollak kind of autistic imagery, that is.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 22, 2024 05:57 PM (e6UQI)

142 I'm almost certain there's other external issues affecting kids other than fluoride in the water.

Like insane teachers, parents, social media....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2024 05:56 PM (Q4IgG)
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Chem trails, 5G, ...

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM (krQz2)

143 Next you're going to tell me the Food Pyramid isn't good science

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM (enVpg)

144 @133 Cool, let’s bring back leaded gasoline then.

Posted by: Allen at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM (sfQLR)

145 Their kidneys are granite, too.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
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The kidney stones are for sure...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM (cDvOu)

146 Little known fact:

Junior Mints were created by the guy who founded the John Birch society.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM (3CVIc)

147
There is nothing dangerous about lead paint if you don't eat it, and nothing dangerous about asbestos if you don't mine it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:54

I thought asbestos is only dangerous when you start tearing it out/demo the buildings.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM (1LUI4)

148 135 does every municipal water supply add fluoride?

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:39 PM (KXtNg)

Portland Oregon doesn't.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 05:57 PM (D7oie)

Well yeah…

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM (PCK5/)

149 Chemtrails and geo-engineering are fake.

But if they were to exist, that would be boffo!

Posted by: Clown World at May 22, 2024 05:59 PM (znEX4)

150 117 I grew up drinking fluoridated water out of a garden hose.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (seACy)

And it gave you microplastics in your balls.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 22, 2024 05:59 PM (N39Ws)

151 Sources say

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2024 05:59 PM (63Dwl)

152 146 Little known fact:

Junior Mints were created by the guy who founded the John Birch society.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM (3CVIc)
____________________________

Might as well get this in before 20 other people do.

"They're Refreshing!!!"

Posted by: Orson at May 22, 2024 05:59 PM (dIske)

153 I'm torn on this. Fluoride has been in the water way longer than this crazy uptick in autism.

On the other hand, if the origin story is true, that they had piles of something laying around and decided to see what would happen if they put in the water supply.... who the hell knows??

And I'll also just go ahead and say that I am at that age where my friends are having grandchildren, and I really am stunned at the amount of shots these kids get.

I am by no means anti- vax, but I had no idea how many more they get now.

I didn't get the coof jab and I admit that I have been giving serious side eye to some of the ones they give kids now. Don't get me started on that hpv one.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 05:59 PM (Vvh2V)

154 141 Would a heavily fluoridated Moron glow under a black light?

I mean, aside from the usual Jason Pollak kind of autistic imagery, that is.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 22, 2024 05:57 PM (e6UQI)

I hear Kumala glows pretty well in UV...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 05:59 PM (ynpvh)

155 They don't know what the fuck they're doing, and they're killing people and making kids autistic, just to justify their fucking salaries.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:33 PM
Since autistic children are easy to convince they're trans, this is a win-win situation for the left.

Posted by: Eromero at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (NxC5+)

156 I always said the difference between the Left and Right was essentially if there was a shot (or a water additive) that would turn people into leftards the Left would implement it and lie without a moment's hesitation.

If there was a similar thing on the Right, thd Right would not only hesitate, they probably wouldn't want to do it.

That was always my contention. I still think I'm correct.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (lX8VI)

157 147
There is nothing dangerous about lead paint if you don't eat it, and nothing dangerous about asbestos if you don't mine it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:54

I thought asbestos is only dangerous when you start tearing it out/demo the buildings.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM (1LUI4)

yeah, don't want to breathe it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (ynpvh)

158 We can use mercury to make hats again.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (2QA3G)

159
150 117 I grew up drinking fluoridated water out of a garden hose.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 05:53 PM (seACy)

And it gave you microplastics in your balls.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 22, 2024 05:59 PM (N39Ws)

You seem to imply that is a bad thing…

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (PCK5/)

160 Here, rub a little mercurichrome on that cut.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (seACy)

161 I can't believe all this Fluoride-denying...

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (krQz2)

162 Nowadays, kids that has behavioral problems have wheat or lactose or peanut or sesame or eggs intolerance or they are on one spectrum or another.
Or, they have a helicopter mom that is on one spectrum or another.

Growing up when some food gave me a bellyache or behavior problems my mom said then don't eat it. She didn't tell everyone in my school not to eat it.

Posted by: old chick at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (F3Dlr)

163 I am sure that Glenn Reynolds has an opinion on this matter…

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (PCK5/)

164 There is nothing micro about my balls. I have macroplastics.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (seACy)

165 >> If your of a certain age, you probably stood in the front yard as the mosquito fogger drove by spraying DDT in your neighborhood.

I lived in the town that inspired Silent Spring. A dubious honor.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (LkLld)

166 160 Here, rub a little mercurichrome on that cut.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (seACy)

I remember that stuff...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (ynpvh)

167
My kids grew up in a home with un-chlorinated well water and they have perfect teeth. Perfect straight, cavity free teeth that cost me and an arm and a leg to have perfectly straight.

My sister told me recently that my last aunt to die had one remaining tooth. Yikes!

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (RKVpM)

168 85 >>>>>Crime 1: Food Pyramid
Crime 2: Climate Science
Crime 3: mRNA vaccines
Posted by: Max Power at May 22, 2024 05:43 PM (q177U)
*********
The food pyramid may be a greater crime against humanity than the vid and vax.
Posted by: Crusader Rabbit

VAX is number one. You don't have to follow the food pyramid a lot of people had to take the VAX to keep their jobs. Yeah the vax is number one by a longshot.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (ofCHO)

169 Where did these children who were exposed to 8ppm in water come from if that is 8 times higher than the average exposure of .07 to 1.2 ppm?
Posted by: javems
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Tuskegee, Alabama.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 06:02 PM (cOq4q)

170 Red dye is totally safe, tho.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 06:02 PM (seACy)

171 You people should be put into camps and forced to drink fluoridated water!

That'd show ya, conspiracy nuts!

Posted by: Good Ideas For the New World at May 22, 2024 06:02 PM (krQz2)

172
Still waiting for the study proving chocolate ice cream and pizza lower cholesterol.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2024 06:02 PM (MoZTd)

173 When your flight is on a chemtrails plane:

https://youtu.be/T1W3g8fYBAQ?si=afG6I46VN_sB-ymT

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:02 PM (znEX4)

174 There is nothing dangerous about lead paint if you don't eat it, and nothing dangerous about asbestos if you don't mine it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 22, 2024 05:54

I thought asbestos is only dangerous when you start tearing it out/demo the buildings.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 05:58 PM

Nothing wrong with asbestos until it turns into micro fibers that go airborne. That generally happens with age or when someone disturbs the asbestos.

I spent 3 years on the Midway CV-41 and slept on the top rack on the O2 level right under the number two arresting wire. I would wake up with my face and blanket covered in white asbestos powder. Every time a plane landed and trapped on that wire a fine cloud of asbestos dust would rain down on us from the overhead.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 22, 2024 06:02 PM (QNSds)

175 We are not meant to live in a world of progress. It's killing us all.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 06:03 PM (3CVIc)

176 Stopped using fluoride enhanced toothpaste about 5 years ago. No cavities. Anecdotal, I know.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 22, 2024 05:46 PM (A2E7p)

Hydroxyapatite toothpast is supposed to help remineralize your teeth, like fluoride, but in a different manner. You can also try xylitol based toothpaste or mints, it helps kill those bacteria that cause tooth decay. (it is toxic to dogs though)

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:03 PM (D7oie)

177 167
My kids grew up in a home with un-chlorinated well water and they have perfect teeth. Perfect straight, cavity free teeth that cost me and an arm and a leg to have perfectly straight.

My sister told me recently that my last aunt to die had one remaining tooth. Yikes!

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (RKVpM)

My Dad had 2 1/2; two implanted and 1/2 of a real tooth he that didn't fall out. In his latter years, Dad did NOT take care of his teeth...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:03 PM (ynpvh)

178 Isn't fluoride a by product from the timber / wood pulp industry?

How else are you going to get rid of it? Pay for disposal? Screw that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at May 22, 2024 06:03 PM (bqpm6)

179 When I started going to the dentist again after turning 29, my dentist told me I had so few cavities, I must have grown up in an area that fluoridated the water.

“I grew up in the middle of nowhere. We got our water from a well.”

“It must have been high-fluoride groundwater.”

At which point I knew fluoridation was a religion regardless of benefits or drawbacks.

(This was in San Diego, which at the time did not fluoridate. Since then, California law has overridden local law, so I think they do fluoridate now.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 22, 2024 06:03 PM (olroh)

180 Here, rub a little mercurichrome on that cut.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (seACy)

I remember that stuff...
Posted by: jim

Monkey blood for the win!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 22, 2024 06:03 PM (ofCHO)

181 96 If you have an antique vehicle, like my 60's era Honda Dream, you can order tetraethyl lead on line. It also seriously boosts octane.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 22, 2024 05:48 PM (pohLc)

Is this what you have to do to get leaded gas? I bet that's illegal here behind enemy lines in CA.

I was just wondering what you'd do if you had an antique car that needed leaded gas.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 06:04 PM (1LUI4)

182 Here, rub a little mercurichrome on that cut.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 06:00 PM (seACy)

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Monkey blood!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 22, 2024 06:04 PM (2UnvF)

183 You are trusting your municipal water authority guy to add just the right amount of fluoride and chlorine. Not too much or it will leech the lead out of the supply lines.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 06:04 PM (seACy)

184 Oh, and now "they" are recommending we not rinse after we brush our teeth.

Spit it out, but not rinse; "let the fluoride do it's job.:

Afyer learni h sbout all the voof jab side effect, it makes one wonder what the job description actually is.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:04 PM (Vvh2V)

185 164 There is nothing micro about my balls. I have macroplastics.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (seACy)

Someone has a new nickname.

Macro Balls!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 06:04 PM (3CVIc)

186 I always said the difference between the Left and Right was essentially if there was a shot (or a water additive) that would turn people into leftards the Left would implement it and lie without a moment's hesitation.
===============

Soy.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 22, 2024 06:05 PM (cOq4q)

187 It was linked the other day, but the microplastics that are everywhere?

They're from recycling.

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at May 22, 2024 06:05 PM (bqpm6)

188 Another example of something being called a conspiracy theory suddenly not being so farfetched after all. In fact they're coming true

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 22, 2024 06:06 PM (enVpg)

189 Painter Bob Ross grew up drinking fluoridated water, so there may be something to this story.

What's that? Autistic?

Autistic? With an A-U?

Oh, my mistake. I thought you said it would make people ARtistic!

Never mind.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 22, 2024 06:06 PM (991eG)

190
You are trusting your municipal water authority guy to add just the right amount of fluoride and chlorine. Not too much or it will leech the lead out of the supply lines.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

_________

"We're good" - Flint Water Authority

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2024 06:06 PM (MoZTd)

191 185 164 There is nothing micro about my balls. I have macroplastics.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (seACy)

Someone has a new nickname.

Macro Balls!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 06:04 PM (3CVIc)

Dangerous for spreadsheets.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:07 PM (ynpvh)

192 This finding was confirmed by a study where groups of children exposed to 8 ppm fluoride in water were found to have lower average IQs...

I used to work with drinking water analysis. The federal maximum contaminant level (MCL) for fluoride in drinking water is 4ppm. California's MCL is 2ppm.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at May 22, 2024 06:07 PM (RMngd)

193 "New Scientific Study Finds Asshole Parents Raise Little Asshole Kids!"

Posted by: JROD at May 22, 2024 06:07 PM (IlL6s)

194 Yep. My ideal form of government is minarchism with free exit from incompatible jurisdictions. But I would rather have a monarchy or despot than a degraded republic like we have now.
Posted by: whig at May 22, 2024 05:47 PM (PkS4e)

the problem is the corruption, and not the form of government. All governments are to some degree a form of cartelism, and so centralized and corrupt. The difference was to be the limited and decentralized part. A corrupt dictatorship is not accountable as long as the checks clear to the de[f]squads, and the corrupt monarchy is Imperial China.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (D7oie)

195 > I always said the difference between the Left and Right was essentially if there was a shot (or a water additive) that would turn people into leftards the Left would implement it and lie without a moment's hesitation.

If there was a similar thing on the Right, thd Right would not only hesitate, they probably wouldn't want to do it.

That was always my contention. I still think I'm correct.
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Well, the "political right" is similarly aligned with the left, so....

Maybe not.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (Q4IgG)

196 I spent 3 years on the Midway CV-41 and slept on the top rack on the O2 level right under the number two arresting wire. I would wake up with my face and blanket covered in white asbestos powder. Every time a plane landed and trapped on that wire a fine cloud of asbestos dust would rain down on us from the overhead.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 22, 2024 06:02 PM (QNSds)
Ditto, but enlisted, and my time was on the Independence CV62 and Roosevelt CV43. And yes, I've had cancer.

Posted by: Eromero at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (NxC5+)

197 193 "New Scientific Study Finds Asshole Parents Raise Little Asshole Kids!"

Posted by: JROD at May 22, 2024 06:07 PM (IlL6s)

And those that don't have the public school system to cover the gap.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (ynpvh)

198 Did you just assume my atomic weight, bigot?

Posted by: Fluoride at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (lX8VI)

199 Not that I disagree with your main point, Whig

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (D7oie)

200 I hear Kumala glows pretty well in UV...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

God, I hope it's urine!

Posted by: Michael Scott at May 22, 2024 06:09 PM (znEX4)

201 I fucking screwed that up. Fuck

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 06:09 PM (lX8VI)

202 198 Did you just assume my atomic weight, bigot?

Posted by: Fluoride at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (lX8VI

So reactionary!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 06:09 PM (3CVIc)

203 Intestinal parasites, that's another long lecture from my wife. You see back in Jamaica, kids took dewormers once a month and Jamaica has no faggots or autism

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM (fRFTM)

204 198 Did you just assume my atomic weight, bigot?

Posted by: Fluoride at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (lX8VI)

In the end, I've got lead in my shoes.

Posted by: Uranium at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM (ynpvh)

205 Still waiting for the study proving chocolate ice cream and pizza lower cholesterol.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2024 06:02 PM (MoZTd)

Would you believe that Oreos lower cholesterol?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38276308/

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM (FCbAQ)

206 Goldie got confirmation from Base that Ripper ordered Attack Plan DC! Sheeeit! The Commies must have taken over Washington by infiltration! Men, this is it. Nooklear combat toe-to-toe with Commie Infiltrators!

Posted by: Major Kong at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM (5fDan)

207 ... my last aunt to die had one remaining tooth.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

********

Sounds like she timed that perfectly.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM (991eG)

208 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM (T4tVD)

209 Well, the "political right" is similarly aligned with the left, so....

Maybe not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (Q4IgG)

No I meant liberals vs conservatives. Not idiot fag Republicans who seem to be best at conning people and making us look like shit.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM (lX8VI)

210 The're always trying to kill Us.... On a different note I missed the Merchan thread so I'm gonna opine here that I think sometime this week we will be getting some "leak" from one of the jurors.. Just a gut feeling

Posted by: It's me donna at May 22, 2024 06:11 PM (Akjoo)

211 Soy in everything.
Seed oils in everything.
Phytoestrogens from plastic everywhere.
Hormones in the water supply
Fluoride
The food pyramid (get your 11 servings of bread!)

If they wanted us fat, lazy, and effeminate, what would they do differently?

Posted by: brak at May 22, 2024 06:11 PM (R9s0U)

212 Hydroxyapatite toothpast is supposed to help remineralize your teeth, like fluoride, but in a different manner. You can also try xylitol based toothpaste or mints, it helps kill those bacteria that cause tooth decay. (it is toxic to dogs though)

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:03 PM (D7oie)
______________

Fluoride salts convert the superficial layer of teeth from hydroxyapatite (a calcium phosphate compound containing a hydroxyl group) to fluoroapatite (in which a fluoride ion replaces the hydroxyl group), which is considerably harder and less prone to decay.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:11 PM (YqDXo)

213 People stopped drinking tap water a couple decades ago, so fluoridation is likely irrelevant to the genesis of our current ClownWorld.

Posted by: gp Abides at May 22, 2024 06:11 PM (MvF+J)

214 200 I hear Kumala glows pretty well in UV...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

God, I hope it's urine!

Posted by: Michael Scott at May 22, 2024 06:09 PM (znEX4)

Urinal lot of trouble if the wrong people hear about this...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:11 PM (ynpvh)

215 We gave up fluoridated water for water with microplastic in it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 22, 2024 06:12 PM (3CVIc)

216 Chem trails, 5G, ...
Posted by: Axeman

Are you calling from East or West of the Rockies?

Posted by: Art Bell's bartender at May 22, 2024 06:12 PM (wWqRd)

217
Jamaica has no faggots or autism

Just melanoma that starts in the foot and kills you dead.

Posted by: Zombie Bob Marley at May 22, 2024 06:12 PM (RKVpM)

218 203 Intestinal parasites, that's another long lecture from my wife. You see back in Jamaica, kids took dewormers once a month and Jamaica has no faggots or autism

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM (fRFTM)

Iran doesn't have any gays either.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:12 PM (ynpvh)

219 Jesus stated that the harvest was great but the laborers were few.

The satanic inversion is the harvest of destroyed souls and lives can be billions but has has a long line for laborers.

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:13 PM (znEX4)

220 We've Got a New "Trust the Science Experts" Update, and It's a Doozy: Study Links Fluoridated Water to Behavioral Problems in Kids, and... Autism-Like Symptoms
______________

Frankly, I'm a little skeptical of this study. "Linked" suggests causation to most people, but a fall in barometer readings is linked to rainfall, too. Before subscribing to this study's findings, I'd want to scour their methodology. Biomedical research is notoriously crappy and unreliable.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:13 PM (YqDXo)

221 @213 That’s a silly claim.

Posted by: Allen at May 22, 2024 06:14 PM (pQBIG)

222 And it continues to be proved right:

Buckley was a fucking idiot.

The Birchers were right about the commies. And now, right about fluoride.

The Birchers were never a problem.

The Republican Party would have been better if they kicked the big business country club assholes out and kept the Birchers.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2024 06:14 PM (g9W3m)

223 Hey let's throw BGH in the pot while we're at it... old farmers in bib overalls with some serious tits...

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 06:14 PM (PCK5/)

224 Did you just assume my atomic weight, bigot?

Posted by: Fluoride

I knew we should've kept an ion you.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at May 22, 2024 06:14 PM (RMngd)

225 Is this what you have to do to get leaded gas? I bet that's illegal here behind enemy lines in CA.

I was just wondering what you'd do if you had an antique car that needed leaded gas.
Posted by: CaliGirl at

AV Gas is 100 low lead. Can obviously still get that.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 22, 2024 06:14 PM (MGB5H)

226 I refuse to get het up about fluoride in the water.

So many other things that are far more threatening.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I May No Longer Be able To Even at May 22, 2024 06:15 PM (hZc6Q)

227 gave up fluoridated water for water with microplastic in it.

-

I also wonder about the part where we're bottling millions of gallons from rivers and shipping it somewhere else.

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at May 22, 2024 06:15 PM (bqpm6)

228 "New Scientific Study Finds Asshole Parents Raise Little Asshole Kids!" Posted by: JROD

or, over the years it has become chique to not have a well adjusted, average child.

Posted by: old chick at May 22, 2024 06:15 PM (F3Dlr)

229 Is this another conspiracy theory confirmed?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 22, 2024 06:15 PM (JLq/1)

230 CIA or British military kill Bob. He was a Man Of Peace whom they couldn't control.

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 06:15 PM (fRFTM)

231 224 Did you just assume my atomic weight, bigot?

Posted by: Fluoride

I knew we should've kept an ion you.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at May 22, 2024 06:14 PM (RMngd)

It can't help it; it's the most electro-negative of the elements.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:15 PM (ynpvh)

232 Also, wtf is up with all the nut allergies and ear infections?

Did any of you have to have PBJ sandwiches banned st school?

And it seems like every one of my friends kids had constant ear infections. I never heard of an ear infection or tubes put in kids ears when I was a kid, and I have a shit-ton of cousins.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:16 PM (Vvh2V)

233 refuse to get het up about fluoride in the water.

So many other things that are far more threatening
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It's not the fluoride, it's the regulations

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at May 22, 2024 06:16 PM (bqpm6)

234 What's next? LBJ confirmed as killer of JFK?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 22, 2024 06:16 PM (JLq/1)

235
... my last aunt to die had one remaining tooth.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

********

Sounds like she timed that perfectly.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM

Yeah, but seriously what the hell good is one tooth? I don't think you're chewing anything... maybe peeling the skin off an orange. A very soft orange.

Posted by: Zombie Bob Marley at May 22, 2024 06:16 PM (RKVpM)

236
or, over the years it has become chique to not have a well adjusted, average child.
Posted by: old chick at May 22, 2024 06:15 PM (F3Dlr)

________

"We didn't want to inhibit Xyler's creativity."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2024 06:17 PM (MoZTd)

237 @226 “don’t get upset about this thing, get upset about a thing I didn’t even name!”

Posted by: Allen at May 22, 2024 06:17 PM (pQBIG)

238 My understanding is that the hormones they use for BC pills don't get filtered out of the water supply. If you want to find an answer to the falling testosterone levels, I would start there.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

I just started working in the water treatment industry three years ago. I'm structural so not really in the weeds on the process side, but one statement I've heard is that every drop of the Mississippi is recycled 13 times by the time it reaches New Orleans. And no, we don't/can't get psychotropic drugs and such out of the water.

Get your water at the source or just enjoy the free drugs I guess.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 22, 2024 06:17 PM (z/ifB)

239 230 CIA or British military kill Bob. He was a Man Of Peace whom they couldn't control.

Posted by: Jamaica at May 22, 2024 06:15 PM (fRFTM)

He just wouldn't toe the line.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:17 PM (ynpvh)

240 I drink tap water.

Not dead yet.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I May No Longer Be able To Even at May 22, 2024 06:17 PM (hZc6Q)

241 And it seems like every one of my friends kids had constant ear infections. I never heard of an ear infection or tubes put in kids ears when I was a kid, and I have a shit-ton of cousins.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:16 PM (Vvh2V)

I had constant ear infections as a Kid and one of My Grandkids had to have the tubes in the ears... We have narrow ear canals

Posted by: It's me donna at May 22, 2024 06:17 PM (Akjoo)

242 @228 old chick-to me it seems kids are more of an accessory to people than a little human you're suppose to raise.

Posted by: JROD at May 22, 2024 06:17 PM (IlL6s)

243
Off Rastafarian sock.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 22, 2024 06:17 PM (RKVpM)

244 wtf is up with all the nut allergies and ear infections?

-

The best explanation I've seen is that food has been forcibly evolved faster than humans can parallel the development, so lots of allergies arise because of the sudden change to new food.

Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at May 22, 2024 06:18 PM (bqpm6)

245 235
... my last aunt to die had one remaining tooth.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

********

Sounds like she timed that perfectly.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM

Yeah, but seriously what the hell good is one tooth? I don't think you're chewing anything... maybe peeling the skin off an orange. A very soft orange.

Posted by: Zombie Bob Marley at May 22, 2024 06:16 PM (RKVpM)

If teeth on top don't overlap sufficiently with teeth on the bottom, not much, at least for eating.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:18 PM (ynpvh)

246 I use a prescription strength fluoride toothpaste... good as dead.

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 06:18 PM (PCK5/)

247 Yeah, but seriously what the hell good is one tooth? I don't think you're chewing anything... maybe peeling the skin off an orange. A very soft orange.
Posted by: Zombie Bob Marley at May 22, 2024 06:16 PM (RKVpM)

I bite my thumb at yo...well crap.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 22, 2024 06:19 PM (z/ifB)

248 The term "conspiracy theory" itself was conjured up by the feds in the '60s to forestall the inevitable criticism the horseshit Warren Report would receive.

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:19 PM (znEX4)

249 I was shocked to see that jugs of water for babies (I guess for formula) contains added fluoride.

Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:19 PM (Sf2cq)

250 If you like fluorine, you'll love chlorine trifluoride! Wikipedia sez "It ignites sand, asbestos, glass, and even ashes of substances that have already burned in oxygen." It's two, two, two halogens in one!

Posted by: gp Abides at May 22, 2024 06:19 PM (MvF+J)

251 248 The term "conspiracy theory" itself was conjured up by the feds in the '60s to forestall the inevitable criticism the horseshit Warren Report would receive.

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:19 PM (znEX4)

Yeppers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:19 PM (ynpvh)

252 While 8 ppm is much higher than the fluoride level added to water in fluoridation programs (0.7--1.2 ppm)
Can no one actually read? This study basically is the same crap they do with things that "cause cancer" - if you give the rats something equivalent to 10 times the "safe" level it's going to cause problems.

Dang experts.

Posted by: GWB at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (zUT35)

253 Also, wtf is up with all the nut allergies and ear infections?

Did any of you have to have PBJ sandwiches banned st school?

And it seems like every one of my friends kids had constant ear infections. I never heard of an ear infection or tubes put in kids ears when I was a kid, and I have a shit-ton of cousins.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor

Never. At least one kid every day had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (ofCHO)

254 If Buckley were alive today he'd be attacking the sawed-off Runt for horning in on his "DESTROY them with FACTS and LOGIC" scam.

Never ever has facts and logic won a single election: Every election is won on emotional appeal.

Facts and Logic are the Sportsmanship Trophy for losers.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (g9W3m)

255 I lived in the town that inspired Silent Spring. A dubious honor.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (LkLld)

Rachel Carson, Ken Kesey and Upton Sinclair have had far too much influence in our modern world. They wrote stories that were more compelling than accurate.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (D7oie)

256 We should see what the British do with their water and do the opposite

Posted by: It's me donna at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (Akjoo)

257 People were raving against flouridated water when it was first suggested in the 1950s or 60s. The arguments seems so good that, when I heard about the controversy in the late 60s I assumed that OFC they never actually did it.

DON'T PUT MEDICINE IN THE PUBLIC WATER!

Posted by: comradearthur at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (OdNzD)

258 I read when I was a kid the autism rate was 1 in 10,000. Now it is 1in 34. Maybe y’all should work on that.
Posted by: Blutarski at May 22, 2024 05:40 PM (Cp1vk)

As soon as I heard the term "on the autism spectrum" I discounted all measurements of autism. People with no autism are on the spectrum, way over on the normal side. I'm to used to advocates in any field redefining the limits on everything downward so what was rare becomes common because the doctor decides so.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:21 PM (eoQWY)

259 All ya gotta do is rebrand fluoride as T-Dazzle. easy peasy.
-Tom Haverford and Leslie Knope

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 22, 2024 06:21 PM (MGB5H)

260 Every quirk is "autism" now...

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 06:21 PM (PCK5/)

261 People were raving against flouridated water when it was first suggested in the 1950s or 60s. The arguments seems so good that, when I heard about the controversy in the late 60s I assumed that OFC they never actually did it.

DON'T PUT MEDICINE IN THE PUBLIC WATER!
Posted by: comradearthur at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (OdNzD)

Fluoride isn't a medicine which was why people who resisted called it poison in the water.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:22 PM (eoQWY)

262 Fluoride is one of the drugs they used to give to people with overactive thyroid function (hypothyroidism) to reduce the thyroid hormone production.

Slowing down the thyroid too much makes you fat and dumb.

Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:22 PM (Sf2cq)

263 260 Every quirk is "autism" now...

Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 06:21 PM (PCK5/)

I have Ought-ism; I oughta do this, I oughta do that...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:22 PM (ynpvh)

264 One tooth can help you hold that cigarette in your mouth.

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:22 PM (znEX4)

265 Everyone is on the Spectrum -- that's what makes it a "spectrum."

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at May 22, 2024 06:22 PM (wBaIH)

266 I did some IT contracting work for a silicon wafer plant. The plant required extra pure water. Took a tour with the plant water control guy. The amount of different chemicals dumped into the municipal water that fed the plant was ridiculous.

The guy had a tough time getting the water the right quality to run the plant.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (XT+5H)

267 I'm to used to advocates in any field redefining the limits on everything downward so what was rare becomes common because the doctor decides so.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:21 PM (eoQWY)

But let's face it, you can't make billions when you only have hundreds of customers. You gots to expand the customer base.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (FCbAQ)

268 Posted by: It's me donna at May 22, 2024 06:17 PM (Akjoo)

I have narrow ear canals, too, didn't realize that was an issue!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (Vvh2V)

269 260 Every quirk is "autism" now...
Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 06:21 PM (PCK5/)

Every kid who doesn't sit still in class is deemed ADHD and medicated... Happened to 2 of My Grandsons

Posted by: It's me donna at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (Akjoo)

270 Rachel Carson, Ken Kesey and Upton Sinclair

I was very disappointed that this didn’t continue with “walk into a bar.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (olroh)

271 Yet still no Bigfoot or Loch Ness Monster.

Posted by: fd at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (vFG9F)

272 @228 old chick-to me it seems kids are more of an accessory to people than a little human you're suppose to raise.
Posted by: JROD

The accessory varies just as purses and shoes, the more symptoms/behavior and diagnosis of "something" is better than plain old kid being kid.

Posted by: old chick at May 22, 2024 06:24 PM (F3Dlr)

273 Every quirk is "autism" now...
Posted by: tubal at May 22, 2024 06:21 PM (PCK5/)

Yup...I know some folks whose kid is really autistic and man, it is bad.

Then you got those broads out there who plaster "Autism" stickers all over their minivan and the poor kids are normal but not according to "Mommy".

"Mommy" is the nutjob.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 22, 2024 06:24 PM (R/m4+)

274 I mentioned in an earlier thread that my second oldest son was developing normally until he got the MMR vaccine. A couple of days after getting his shots when he was about 18 months old he passed out with a high fever and almost died.

Afterwards it was basically ground zero in development. He started stimmy behavior (hitting himself), ecolalia and other autistic behaviors.

Years later we did a genetic test and found he had a gene problem that leads to Dravit’s syndrome, the only known genetic link to autism.

I have wondered if the vaccine and genetic code worked together to lead to autism in some people.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 22, 2024 06:24 PM (sEYaD)

275 I lived in the town that inspired Silent Spring. A dubious honor.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (LkLld)

Rachel Carson, Ken Kesey and Upton Sinclair have had far too much influence in our modern world. They wrote stories that were more compelling than accurate.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (D7oie)

That's the long form definition for "lie" isn't it?

And Jackstraw, well one advantage is it is quiet now, what with all the puffers and albatrosses and whatever birds she was on about are gone.

I actually read that book once when I was a kid.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:24 PM (eoQWY)

276 265 Everyone is on the Spectrum -- that's what makes it a "spectrum."

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at May 22, 2024 06:22 PM (wBaIH)

One day at work, I was using a disc-cone antella and a Spectrum analyzer to look at the emissions spectrum of a device. A guy from Marketing came in and asked what I was doing; when I was done explaining, I asked him, "Would you like your spectrum analyzed?"...he was not amused.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:24 PM (ynpvh)

277 Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?

Posted by: Gen Jack D. Ripper at May 22, 2024 06:24 PM (6gW4D)

278 271 Yet still no Bigfoot or Loch Ness Monster.

Posted by: fd at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (vFG9F)

They were the first victims of fluoridation!

Posted by: General Ripper at May 22, 2024 06:25 PM (5fDan)

279 Well, the "political right" is similarly aligned with the left, so....

Maybe not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2024 06:08 PM (Q4IgG)

No I meant liberals vs conservatives. Not idiot fag Republicans who seem to be best at conning people and making us look like shit.
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM (lX8VI)
------------
Ahh, understood.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 22, 2024 06:25 PM (Q4IgG)

280 Rachel Carson, Ken Kesey and Upton Sinclair

I was very disappointed that this didn’t continue with “walk into a bar.”
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (olroh)

Ok. Rachel Carson, Ken Kesey and Upton Sinclair walk into a bar.

Hemingway ducked under and had a good laugh.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 22, 2024 06:25 PM (FCbAQ)

281 266 I did some IT contracting work for a silicon wafer plant. The plant required extra pure water. Took a tour with the plant water control guy. The amount of different chemicals dumped into the municipal water that fed the plant was ridiculous.

The guy had a tough time getting the water the right quality to run the plant.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (XT+5H)

RO water wasn't good enough? Or at least further processed RO water?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:25 PM (ynpvh)

282 Fluoride salts convert the superficial layer of teeth from hydroxyapatite (a calcium phosphate compound containing a hydroxyl group) to fluoroapatite (in which a fluoride ion replaces the hydroxyl group), which is considerably harder and less prone to decay.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:11 PM (YqDXo)

Yes, but if you want something other than Fluoride, then there are options other than brushing extra hard with salt and baking soda.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:25 PM (D7oie)

283 Yup...I know some folks whose kid is really autistic and man, it is bad.

Then you got those broads out there who plaster "Autism" stickers all over their minivan and the poor kids are normal but not according to "Mommy".

"Mommy" is the nutjob.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

Ya a friend of mine has a barely verbal autistic son. It's a huge battle for them. The hey I'm a little shy and awkward kid isn't autistic he's just shy and awkward.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 22, 2024 06:26 PM (MGB5H)

284 Fluoride is one of the drugs they used to give to people with overactive thyroid function (hypothyroidism) to reduce the thyroid hormone production.

Slowing down the thyroid too much makes you fat and dumb.
Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:22 PM (Sf2cq)

Guess I only got half the dose.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:26 PM (eoQWY)

285 Fluoride isn't a medicine…

It’s the first attempt at turning us into cyborgs. NTTAWWT.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 22, 2024 06:26 PM (olroh)

286 I read when I was a kid the autism rate was 1 in 10,000. Now it is 1in 34. Maybe y’all should work on that.
Posted by: Blutarski at May 22, 2024 05:40 PM (Cp1vk)
_________________

The power of suggestion. See also the "transgender epidemic."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:27 PM (YqDXo)

287 I do remember reading a report from a dentist and had to be 10 years ago that said this fluoride added was useless

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2024 06:27 PM (fwDg9)

288 Yes, but if you want something other than Fluoride, then there are options other than brushing extra hard with salt and baking soda.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:25 PM (D7oie)

One of the classic Roman poets wrote a poem about a dude from Spain who got white teeth by brushing with Urine.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:27 PM (eoQWY)

289 257 DON'T PUT MEDICINE IN THE PUBLIC WATER!
Posted by: comradearthur at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (OdNzD)

We can still dump statins into the water supply, though, right?

*sigh*

I know what I'll be dreaming about tonight...

Posted by: you friendly neighborhood MD at May 22, 2024 06:27 PM (DTX3h)

290 245 235
... my last aunt to die had one remaining tooth.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

********

Sounds like she timed that perfectly.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 22, 2024 06:10 PM

Yeah, but seriously what the hell good is one tooth? I don't think you're chewing anything... maybe peeling the skin off an orange. A very soft orange.

Posted by: Zombie Bob Marley at May 22, 2024 06:16 PM (RKVpM)

If teeth on top don't overlap sufficiently with teeth on the bottom, not much, at least for eating.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:18 PM (ynpvh)
An old lady who lived on GrandPappy's farm in the mid 1950s had NO teeth and could eat an apple.

Posted by: Eromero at May 22, 2024 06:27 PM (NxC5+)

291 270 Rachel Carson, Ken Kesey and Upton Sinclair

I was very disappointed that this didn’t continue with “walk into a bar.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 22, 2024 06:23 PM (olroh)

Carson: "are the snacks organically grown?"
Kesey: "This is just nuts!"
Sinclair: "When I said I wanted a finger of whiskey, I didn't want a literal one"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:28 PM (ynpvh)

292 I have asked lots of people on line and in person to produce a single study that indicates fluoride in drinking water produces any benefit whatsoever over regular usage of fluoridated toothpaste. Not one person has risen to the challenge.
End the fluoridation of drinking water now!

Posted by: Bonecrusher at May 22, 2024 06:28 PM (6KkyI)

293 People stopped drinking tap water a couple decades ago, so fluoridation is likely irrelevant to the genesis of our current ClownWorld.

Posted by: gp Abides at May 22, 2024 06:11 PM (MvF+J)
---
There must be some minunderstanding.
There must be some kind of mistake.

Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (krQz2)

294 I lived in a town for five years before they began fluoridating their water. People were mostly normal-sized when we moved there. I myself was skinny and ate like a teenaged boy.

After they began fluoridating, people started getting bigger and bigger. Now the average-sized people, including the kids, are fat. There are some skinny-to-normal people, but they are the minority now.

Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (Sf2cq)

295 How boomers will hand over the reins

https://youtu.be/GRC4mg7dm4Y?si=UgyJFEbSp2wdL4il

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (lhenN)

296 We have a well... We're just drinking bugs and dirt

Posted by: It's me donna at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (Akjoo)

297 I don't know what my diagnosis is, but it's whatever Napoleon Dynamite had. I blame those flavored drinking straws back in 1956. Added strawberry taste to milk.

Posted by: gp Abides at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (MvF+J)

298 Studies have shown that 99% of all studies are crap.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (YqDXo)

299 General Jack D. Ripper comments:

https://tinyurl.com/Gen-Ripper-Flouride

Posted by: Sharkman at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (/RHNq)

300 Yes son. Everybody has given you experimental drugs.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (J8LnB)

301 >>Rachel Carson, Ken Kesey and Upton Sinclair have had far too much influence in our modern world. They wrote stories that were more compelling than accurate.

Carson wrote Silent Spring because she read a letter to the editor in a newspaper from a woman who claimed she had less migratory birds in her yard because they were spraying for mosquitos.

That's the kind of sciencing that gave us global warming.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (LkLld)

302 While 8 ppm is much higher than the fluoride level added to water in fluoridation programs (0.7--1.2 ppm)
Can no one actually read? This study basically is the same crap they do with things that "cause cancer" - if you give the rats something equivalent to 10 times the "safe" level it's going to cause problems.

Dang experts.
Posted by: GWB at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM (zUT35)

Especially when you drop a 5 pound bag of it on them from shoulder level.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:30 PM (eoQWY)

303 As soon as I heard the term "on the autism spectrum" I discounted all measurements of autism. People with no autism are on the spectrum, way over on the normal side. I'm to used to advocates in any field redefining the limits on everything downward so what was rare becomes common because the doctor decides so.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:21 PM (eoQWY)

———

Being socially awkward is now “on the spectrum”. If you are walking around (absent weird piercings, etc) and little kids don’t stare at you like there is something wrong with you, you aren’t on the spectrum. When I’m out with my autistic son, if there is a young child around they instantly begin staring at him.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 22, 2024 06:30 PM (sEYaD)

304 After they began fluoridating, people started getting bigger and bigger. Now the average-sized people, including the kids, are fat. There are some skinny-to-normal people, but they are the minority now.

Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (Sf2cq)
______________

Fluoridation causes video games and cancellation of PE in schools?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:30 PM (YqDXo)

305 Studies.
Maybe we need a study on how many stupid studies we have?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 22, 2024 06:30 PM (bvWAj)

306 As soon as I heard the term "on the autism spectrum" I discounted all measurements of autism. People with no autism are on the spectrum, way over on the normal side. I'm to used to advocates in any field redefining the limits on everything downward so what was rare becomes common because the doctor decides so.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:21 PM

Kind of like what I heard on talk radio this morning....There was some woman they had on for "mental health" month claiming that 20% of all Americans have mental health disorders. It's all bull$hit made up stats.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 22, 2024 06:30 PM (QNSds)

307 Anyone else trolling lately?

My only output today was the sports cheer cadence

Epstein Island!
👏 👏 👏👏👏

on a Colbert video clip.

It's probably wrong but fuck it, I'm Catholic and I'll confess it later.

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:31 PM (znEX4)

308 Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 22, 2024 06:24 PM (sEYaD)
====

Mrs. F. is convinced Boy. F.'s autism is due to MMR vaccine.

I do not agree.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 22, 2024 06:31 PM (RIvkX)

309 The hey I'm a little shy and awkward kid isn't autistic he's just shy and awkward.
Posted by: BruceWayne

or, you know, just an average kid!

Not all kids are celebrity drummers or basketball players or geniuses at 3 years old. Society stopped wanting to accept kids being normal shy kids when facebook likes became the most important gauge of a kid's daily measure.

Posted by: old chick at May 22, 2024 06:31 PM (F3Dlr)

310 Being socially awkward is now “on the spectrum”.
______________

Half of my fellow grad students were socially awkward.

Of course, they probably said that about me, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:31 PM (YqDXo)

311 RO water wasn't good enough? Or at least further processed RO water?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:25 PM

Honestly, I don't remember. This was about 29 years ago. However, I'm sure the blue cloud of swear words are still hovering over the former plant.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 22, 2024 06:31 PM (XT+5H)

312 255 I lived in the town that inspired Silent Spring. A dubious honor.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2024 06:01 PM (LkLld)

Rachel Carson, Ken Kesey and Upton Sinclair have had far too much influence in our modern world. They wrote stories that were more compelling than accurate.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:20 PM

Rachel Carson killed more poor Africans with her stupid book. Why do they hate poor people?

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 06:31 PM (7i76d)

313
Once, when I was severely impoverished and worked 16 hours a day, I worked with a guy with no teeth. He was a hoot and we got along great.

I'd have to browse through the DMS manual to find all the issues he had. At least five. But fun guy to work with.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 22, 2024 06:32 PM (RKVpM)

314 Studies have shown that 99% of all studies are crap.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (YqDXo)

It is true that 99 percent of scientific papers are never cited by anyone, ever, in their papers, or some other high percentage.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:32 PM (eoQWY)

315 I believe (but I could be mistaken) that fluoride applied to teeth can strengthen the enamel. As far as I know, there is no benefit from swallowing fluoride. In fact, the reason your toothpaste package says to see a doctor if you swallow the toothpaste is because the toothpaste contains fluoride.

Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:32 PM (Sf2cq)

316 307 Anyone else trolling lately?

My only output today was the sports cheer cadence

Epstein Island!
👏 👏 👏👏👏

on a Colbert video clip.

It's probably wrong but fuck it, I'm Catholic and I'll confess it later.

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:31 PM (znEX4)

I know that's supposed to be clapping, but look like falafels or something...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:32 PM (ynpvh)

317 Part o f the rise in autism is just that they have given it a name that covers a lot of territory.

Autism in my youth was the kind where they're non verbal and spend all day beating their head a'gin the wall.

It now encompasses geeks, nerds, band fags, dorks, people with no filters and zero social skills.... all the interesting people who were my friends in high school. All the Aspbergers.

A lot of extremely intelligent people who were just considered to be a lil odd are swelling the dtsts.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:33 PM (Vvh2V)

318 Studies are really no different than polls. Designed to persuade, not to inform.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 22, 2024 06:33 PM (bvWAj)

319 Rachel Carson killed more poor Africans with her stupid book. Why do they hate poor people?
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 22, 2024 06:31 PM (7i76d)

I think it was that after DDT was banned Malaria deaths in coastal India went from essentially 0 to 17 million or some such. And they don't even have Bald Eagles there.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:34 PM (eoQWY)

320 nood

Posted by: gp Abides at May 22, 2024 06:34 PM (MvF+J)

321 Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:32 PM (stats.

Emmie!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:34 PM (Vvh2V)

322 Alternative Headline

Women in suburbs less likely to slap the stupid out of their kids than rural women with well water

Posted by: Nom de Blog at May 22, 2024 06:34 PM (FPBDR)

323 I have wondered if the vaccine and genetic code worked together to lead to autism in some people.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 22, 2024 06:24 PM (sEYaD)

Like thalidomide and phocomelia? There was one court case where it was determined that a child got multiples of a vaccination as an infant and developed autism, and it was credited to a genetic condition, and that the overdose was actually the clinic's fault and cause of the autism.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:34 PM (D7oie)

324 RO water wasn't good enough? Or at least further processed RO water?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 22, 2024 06:25 PM (ynpvh)

———

If it was electronics, it was probably full on deionized water.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 22, 2024 06:34 PM (sEYaD)

325 It is true that 99 percent of scientific papers are never cited by anyone, ever, in their papers, or some other high percentage.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:32 PM (eoQWY)
________________

I could easily believe that about the social sciences, which abounds with incredibly obscure journals. I don't think that that's true in the sciences, especially not true for mainstream, reputable journals.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:35 PM (YqDXo)

326 Nood Cohen

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 22, 2024 06:35 PM (ftFVW)

327 It is true that 99 percent of scientific papers are never cited by anyone, ever, in their papers, or some other high percentage.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:32 PM (eoQWY)

--Because all the shitty articles are plagiarized by black female professors.

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:36 PM (znEX4)

328 311 Fab water needs to be super-duper pure. The whole fab is extremely sensitive to contaminants and a bunch of other gremlins.

Posted by: gp Abides at May 22, 2024 06:36 PM (MvF+J)

329 It now encompasses geeks, nerds, band fags, dorks, people with no filters and zero social skills.... all the interesting people who were my friends in high school. All the Aspbergers.

A lot of extremely intelligent people who were just considered to be a lil odd are swelling the dtsts.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:33 PM (Vvh2V)
_______________

Ah, the stories I could tell about my fellow grad students ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:37 PM (YqDXo)

330 People stopped drinking tap water a couple decades ago, so fluoridation is likely irrelevant to the genesis of our current ClownWorld.

Posted by: gp Abides at May 22, 2024 06:11 PM (MvF+J)
---
There must be some minunderstanding.
There must be some kind of mistake.
Posted by: Axeman at May 22, 2024 06:29 PM (krQz2)

Most bottled water is just somebody else's tap water shipped to you.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:37 PM (eoQWY)

331 330 Lots of holes in my thesis, I admit.

Posted by: gp Abides at May 22, 2024 06:38 PM (MvF+J)

332 --Because all the shitty articles are plagiarized by black female professors.

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:36 PM (znEX4)
_______________

There is some Ur-Negro who wrote the original CRT/DEI rubbish, and all the rest have been plagiarizing him ever since.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:38 PM (YqDXo)

333 It is true that 99 percent of scientific papers are never cited by anyone, ever, in their papers, or some other high percentage.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:32 PM (eoQWY)

--Because all the shitty articles are plagiarized by black female professors.
Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2024 06:36 PM (znEX4)

I remember reading a book on scientific fraud and there was a Middle Eastern dude who copied papers from obscure journal A and submitted them to obscure journals B, C, D and E. He had a great CV. I forget how he got busted but it wasn't by the journals, just some bad luck.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:40 PM (eoQWY)

334 Like thalidomide and phocomelia? There was one court case where it was determined that a child got multiples of a vaccination as an infant and developed autism, and it was credited to a genetic condition, and that the overdose was actually the clinic's fault and cause of the autism.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 22, 2024 06:34 PM (D7oie)

———-

Don’t know. Sometimes I think it was maybe just the fever itself. He was just standing there one second, then sat down then flopped to the floor. He was burning hot, stopped breathing and his lips turned blue. Maybe that was enough to damage some of his brain and the result was autistic behavior. Thankfully he is only moderately autistic, can communicate verbally and can take care of his basic hygiene. But he (20 yo) has limited comprehension skills and all the typical stimmy and vocal issues.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 22, 2024 06:40 PM (sEYaD)

335 Most bottled water is just somebody else's tap water shipped to you.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:37 PM (eoQWY)
_______________

Yep. Penn and Teller had a great segment on just that. A must-see in the current context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCsytWaYuMg

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:40 PM (YqDXo)

336 Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 22, 2024 06:24 PM (sEYaD)

A lady I used to work with had a similar thing happen to one of her children. He let out a strange "howl" immediately after his mmr vaccine, and was all but vegetative after. The nurse had seen it before and grabbed him and ran with him to the ER. I didn't know the lady well enough to ask her for details, but he was in a nursing home from then on.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:40 PM (Vvh2V)

337 Honestly, I’ve pondered if the rise in autism (and food allergies) might be because the people who have them would have previously died of childhood illnesses, and there is some sort of shared gene predisposing somebody to both one and the other. (Alternatively, perhaps the illnesses themselves could lead to onset, if the infant survives - which they now do much more often.) That could explain why, for example, vaccines meant to immunize children from illnesses that could kill them before the age of 5, could be followed by the onset of autism. I imagine that the nasty ear infection I got when I was 18 months old or whatever, would have killed me a century ago, and then I wouldn’t have to worry about either my peanut allergy or my Asperger’s because I’d be kaput.

Posted by: The Dogs with Bees in Their Mouths, So When They Bark, They Shoot Bees at You at May 22, 2024 06:41 PM (nW0Z/)

338 I have been puzzled by statements I've heard that say fluoride sanitizes drinking water, but I thought it was chlorine that did that.

Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:41 PM (Sf2cq)

339 sted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:37 PM

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:42 PM (Vvh2V)

340 No way I can get in before the Gen. Jack Ripper comments.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

Others will make references to general Ripper, but only Sharkman is nice enough to provide the video.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 22, 2024 06:43 PM (/RHNq)

341 Lotta bottled water contains fluoride, and many water filter systems do not remove fluoride.

Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:44 PM (Sf2cq)

342 I could easily believe that about the social sciences, which abounds with incredibly obscure journals. I don't think that that's true in the sciences, especially not true for mainstream, reputable journals.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:35 PM (YqDXo)

Nope, this was for hard sciences. Someone did a citation tree study to find papers that made a huge difference to Science, but most did not. Doesn't make them suspect or frauds, of course, just unimportant to science in general.

A similar thing is the Burgess Shale fossils. These basically sat in a drawer from 1915-20 because the guy doing the dig became an administrator and never really looked at them. In like 1970 someone opened up the drawer and actually looked at them and made all sorts of exciting discoveries that I am unconvinced would not have been seen at the time of discovery. Steven Gould thought different, but even the dudes he was praising for being forward thinking thought his analysis of the situation was wrong.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:45 PM (eoQWY)

343 I have been puzzled by statements I've heard that say fluoride sanitizes drinking water, but I thought it was chlorine that did that.

Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2024 06:41 PM (Sf2cq)
_______________

It is. It's chlorine GAS that is bubbled into drinking water for sanitization purposes, whereas it's fluoride ION that's is sometimes added for dental purposes.

I've read that in some parts of Europe they bubble ozone into drinking water for sanitization purposes, but ozone is so reactive that it is removed rapidly, leaving the water susceptible to bacteria.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:47 PM (YqDXo)

344 Posted by: The Dogs with Bees in Their Mouths, So When They Bark, They Shoot Bees at You at May 22, 2024 06:41 PM (nW0Z/)

Very feasible!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:48 PM (Vvh2V)

345 So the John Birch Society was right.

Posted by: Don at May 22, 2024 06:48 PM (yy2s0)

346 Honestly, I’ve pondered if the rise in autism (and food allergies) might be because the people who have them would have previously died of childhood illnesses, and there is some sort of shared gene predisposing somebody to both one and the other.
Posted by: The Dogs with Bees in Their Mouths, So When They Bark, They Shoot Bees at You at May 22, 2024 06:41 PM (nW0Z/)

If this were the dominant cause you would expect the autism spike to happen at the same time or closely following the drop in infant mortality when they were several hundred years apart in the developed world.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:49 PM (eoQWY)

347 Women in suburbs less likely to slap the stupid out of their kids than rural women with well water
Posted by: Nom de Blog at May 22, 2024 06:34 PM (FPBDR)

😂😂😂 True!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:51 PM (Vvh2V)

348 the rise in autism
_____________

Begs the question: IS there a rise in autism, or just a rise in the diagnosis of autism?

Again, the power of suggestion. See also, inter alia, "fibromyalgia" and the "transgender epidemic."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:51 PM (YqDXo)

349 There is some Ur-Negro who wrote the original CRT/DEI rubbish, and all the rest have been plagiarizing him ever since.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:38 PM (YqDXo)

He was almost certainly white.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:51 PM (eoQWY)

350 Women in suburbs less likely to slap the stupid out of their kids than rural women with well water
Posted by: Nom de Blog at May 22, 2024 06:34 PM (FPBDR)
__________

LOL. A perfectly sensible hypothesis, and one that comports well with the facts to hand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2024 06:53 PM (YqDXo)

351 Also, someone mentioned Upton Sinclair. Fun fact: He was not setting out to reform the food industry. His goal was actually to show how utterly corrupt and horrible capitalism was, and that the workers needed to organize and overthrow the system. In fact, he was quite peeves that The Jungle just led to the FDA.

One reason the Pure Food and Drug Act really took off was that the companies who could afford the regulations took advantage of it drive their competition out of business. H.J. Heinz was one of the beneficiaries, IIRC.

Posted by: The Dogs with Bees in Their Mouths, So When They Bark, They Shoot Bees at You at May 22, 2024 06:55 PM (nW0Z/)

352 My initial theory about the rise in autism was that the boom in tech, internet development, etc., created a breeding ground for the aforementioned geeks, nerds, dorks in Silicon Valley and other similar techie areas. They were all able to date and marry their own kind, so the genes were being passed down double time.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at May 22, 2024 06:56 PM (Vvh2V)

353 349 He was almost certainly white.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 22, 2024 06:51 PM (eoQWY)

It depends who this person was thinking of. The current movement has many parents. Frantz Fanon, Derrick Bell and Kimberle Crenshaw were black. Herbert Marcuse and Paulo Freire were not.

Posted by: The Dogs with Bees in Their Mouths, So When They Bark, They Shoot Bees at You at May 22, 2024 06:57 PM (nW0Z/)

354 After the covid madness, I decided to finally go to listen to Dr Andrew Wakefield for myself. He is the Doctor Who first noticed a correlation between Autism and the MMR vaccine given to children at age 18 months. A friend of mine who works with mentally retarded children says that after they started giving the kids that shot she couldn't tell me how many mothers over the last 30 years or so have come to her and said that their children developed autism within 48 hours after having that injection.

So I finally listened to his interviews on Rumble and the man is the farthest thing from a quack. Brilliant and thoughtful and soft spoken and very meticulous about what he claims and does not claim --- but of course he's been smeared is a conspiracy theorist.

The British Health establishment stripped him of his medical license even though his original article had 12 co-authors who were all distinguished doctors and scientists and it was peer-reviewed five times before it was published in the Lancet.

He is viewing the massive red pilling about vaccines that has been going on with a certain wry and bitter satisfaction.

Posted by: Beverly at May 22, 2024 07:56 PM (Epeb0)

355 m.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyf3QgRP-c

“ I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.”

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Posted by: lima at May 22, 2024 08:32 PM (KsArU)

357 One reason the mental hospitals/institutions were shut down was because they were full of folks who just had autism but had been diagnosed with 'psychosis'. In France they still treat autism as 'psychosis' and it's cruel. Look at pics of 1800s 'Bedlam' in London - a bunch of people with severe autism symptoms. The 'rise' is a matter of rationalising and simplifying diagnostic criteria.

Posted by: pakisa at May 22, 2024 09:13 PM (gAHC3)

358 Teens who use marijuana are more likely to suffer psychotic disorders, study finds

… so, who pays when there is Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) for cannabis ? This time the states would be co-conspirators

Posted by: SMOD at May 22, 2024 09:15 PM (GITLP)

359 The Bradford Hill criteria for causation are not satisfied for fluoride. This is just correlation. The hidden variable is childhood vaccinations. Childhood vaccination and brain damage does meet all the Bradford Hill criteria for brain damage. Timing and location. Dose dependency. Biological Plausibility.

Vaccine is a term created by Jenner, as the Latin name for cow is Vacca, so injecting filth from a diseased cow was called a vaccine by Jenner to prevent smallpox. In this century, we use filth from E. coli bacteria containing all kinds of DNA plasmids along with the programmed psuedourindine modified mRNA and call it a covid vaccine. Neither worked nor are working.

The childhood vaccines contain "adjuvents, AlOH" that triggers the immune system against all antigens and sometimes against self proteins and cause autoimmune disease. Sometimes the child just develops lifelong hay fever if the jab is given during ragweed season.

The aluminum adjuvants, salts, upset the delicate zeta potential of the blood. Red blood cells have a negative charge, so they repel each other and remain in suspension. The +3 charge of Aluminum ions destroy that suspention - microclots.

Posted by: FlimFleamed at May 22, 2024 11:51 PM (Eaklp)

360 Keep in mind this was an epidemiological study, not "real" "science." Also, fluoride has been in drinking water far longer than recent uptick in autism numbers.

Not that it should have been in the water.

Posted by: eddie at May 23, 2024 12:00 AM (4+Tgo)

361 Flouride fucks up the ability of iodina, another halide, to get into your thyroid hormones. Don't drink it, don't brush with it. And stay away from the chlorine too. They are trying to kill us or make us infirm or dumb.

Posted by: Hazchic at May 23, 2024 12:04 AM (eIFmm)

362 Fluoride is important to developing teeth which begins in utero. Logically, it has been in use for so long that there should be no trend for anything it may cause. Another scare of bad science as with children's vaccines. (I am a dentist!!)

Posted by: Elliott Althouse at May 23, 2024 10:06 AM (jomcu)

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