Gun Thread: Tax Day Eve Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Form 1040 Shitballs! How in the ever-loving hell did it get to be Tax Day Eve? Are you a last minute filer frantically adding receipts and filling out forms with a stubby little pencil? Just in case you're wondering, Weasel are not a fan of taxes in general and the stupid clown show we're paying for, in particular. I am perfectly capable of wasting my own money and really don't need the gummint's help in that regard, thank you very much.

Special Administrative Note
Remember to mark your calendars for the afternoon of Saturday, June 8th if you care to attend the cultural and social event of the season, the 2024 NoVAMoMe. That's right guys and gals, our pal bluebell has gently reminded me with the tip of a shiv that I need to get busy and set up the registration page, so expect an email link on the main page left sidebar to go live this coming week. Anyone who has attended this gala event will tell you it's a lot of fun! There are fabulous prizes, fabulous food, fabulous drinks, and a bigly fabulous opportunity to spend time with your fabulous online pals. An informal get together Friday evening will be held again this year, so pencil that in too!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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Fundamentals
With all the NoVaMoMe excitement, you thought I'd forgotten about fundamentals, didn't you?

Ok, so we've gone over stance and grip and you have been practicing at home in front of a mirror and on the range where you have been taking notes on what works, what doesn't work, and what looks good for the range babes. Most importantly, you are focusing on the elements of good fundamentals as you practice and develop muscle memory. Now let's take a look at sight alignment. To start things off, here is an NRA article on sight picture.

Now let's go to the video!

Paul Harrell

SEALs

Which leads us to the inevitable question; why use sights?

1911's in action!

More Paul Harrell

More SEALs

Our Pal Jer!

And finally, Sig Sauer

Hopefully you get the picture. Get it? The picture! Hahahahaha! I crack myself up.

Next week, trigger pull/squeeze/press/pinch/press/actuation!

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Guns of the Horde

First up, a Bigly Gun Thread congratulations to our pal and delightful 'ette Screaming in Digital on the recent acquisition of this beautiful Smith & Wesson Model 28!

Here is my latest, long-desired acquisition, a S&W model 28-2 "Highway Patrolman" bought from Gunbroker on my first-ever bidding attempt! (That part was easy - turns out I was the only bidder!)
Most of you know the backstory to this purchase, but if you don't - Jesse had a model 28-3 with a 6-inch barrel. It was special not only because it is beautiful and easy to shoot well, but it was the first gun he bought new for himself, in 1986. The model 28-3 now resides with J's son, and rightly so. But I loved it so much I had to find a similar one for myself. My stepson and I have promised to shoot them side-by-side next time we see each other.
Last Saturday I took it to the range with a small supply of .38 Special and .357 Magnum. My first 6 shots went exactly where I wanted them to go. I neglected to photograph that target, as I thought I could replicate my success, but alas... I had a little bittersweet moment, lost focus and the next rounds started drifting a little high. It was happy with the cheap .38 I had; one of my cheap .357 rounds didn't go bang on the first try, so future trips may experiment with different ammo.
It will be tempting to shoot this on every range outing, but it is nice and special enough that it will be an occasional shooter for me. The Highway Patrolman is expected to make a limited appearance at the TX MoMe.

Wishing you many years of happy shooting, SiD!

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Choosing a Carry Gun

Our pals at Gun Tests offer this article on the 5 Best 9mm Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2024, which fits in nicely with SEH gal's series on the same topic in the Gun Basics 101 section, below.

Lots of great content and resources at Gun Tests, so you might want to consider a membership.

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CBD and Weirdness

Our pal CBD is not only an art critic and good cooker but also a gun nut who recently posed the following question:

So...during the winter I carry a Kimber 1911 Commander (cocked and locked). When I re-holster, I put my thumb between the hammer and the frame, because...uh...I have no idea. But it makes sense to me that I block the hammer from falling during one of the most risky times of my gun handling.
And it got me thinking...what other things do people do in the name of safety that aren't accepted, taught techniques? Besides wearing a turnip on their belts.

Well now that's a good question! What do all y'all think, or rather what sort of perhaps unconventional stuff are you doing safety-wise?

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Cat Women Of The Moon!

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Musical Interlude
Here is Tennessee Ernie Ford and Sixteen Tons

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Gun Basics 101
New video from the She Equips Herself gal! This week's video is on finding the perfect carry gun.

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Cigar of the Week

This week our pal rhomboid scores again with this excellent review of the Brick House Habano Classic

J.C. Newman is one of the few legacy American cigar companies still around. Hope to visit their historic HQ and rolling rooms in Tampa at some point (most of their production is outside the US). One of their stand-bys sticks is Brick House. I reviewed the maduro version here in the past (liked it). There's also a connecticut in the line.
The original Brick House habano version - now dubbed the "Classic" - is a nice medium-brown stick with clean lines and appearance. Ecuador habano wrapper, Nicaraguan binder and filler. I've tried both the toro and robusto sizes. They produce very good smoke volume, and the draw is easy. Solid medium, as far as strength. Flavors for me are just general pleasant tobacco notes, and overall it's quite smooth. A solid basic cigar that is good for any occasion and goes for $6 and up online.

Excellent as always, thank you rhomboid!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo NEW!

***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal WTM. Cool!

Thanks for keeping these coming, WTM!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

2 FIRST!

Posted by: scottst at April 14, 2024 07:00 PM (AZf41)

3 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2024 07:00 PM (fwDg9)

4 Kaboom!

Posted by: Norman Spiny at April 14, 2024 07:00 PM (bpWz8)

5 Good evening horde. Thanks Weasel! To the content...

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

6 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

7 Still have not fired a shot since October last year. I am going to have to fix that.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 14, 2024 07:02 PM (QNSds)

8 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 07:02 PM (yRXSd)

9 That's a fine looking revolver, SiD.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:04 PM (Wnv9h)

10 sid,

Great acquisition, great story!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:04 PM (HlyYF)

11 Nice score, SiD!

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 07:05 PM (yRXSd)

12 Remember to mark your calendars for the afternoon of Saturday, June 8th if you care to attend the cultural and social event of the season, the 2024 NoVAMoMe.

Reservations already made. I and the RMBS Mom are looking forward to seeing y'all in June!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:05 PM (Wnv9h)

13 Howdy Weasel!

Howdy Morons!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:06 PM (HlyYF)

14 No shooting this week, but since tomorrow is one of the highest of the High Hack Holidays* here in MA, I will be at the range.

*Patriots' Day. So Imma go be patriotic and shoot things.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:07 PM (Wnv9h)

15 Hi Weasel and hello horde.
SID, that is a lovely pistol, and thank you for sharing the story.

Posted by: Grateful at April 14, 2024 07:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

16 Howdy all y'all!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:08 PM (QVgBk)

17 Evening all!! Sorry for the tardiness, was watching The Masters.

Now off to the content!!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:09 PM (f0/sc)

18 Gub!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 14, 2024 07:09 PM (V8he0)

19 Scoob!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:09 PM (Wnv9h)

20 Good evening, gunthusiasts.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 14, 2024 07:09 PM (byJ28)

21 Reservations already made. I and the RMBS Mom are looking forward to seeing y'all in June!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:05 PM (Wnv9h)
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Yippee!!!!

Posted by: bluebell at April 14, 2024 07:10 PM (bS+DD)

22 "Next week, trigger pull/squeeze/press/pinch/press/actuation!"

Thank goodness. Went to the range to work on fundamentals as advised by Weasel-san. I'm still a new shooter and still working to learn my new gub.

Good news - feeling comfortable. Reasonably consistent. Groupings reasonably close. ("Reasonably" is doing a lot of work here.) Getting a few shots on target.

Bad news - clusters are consistently hitting from the bulls-eye down to the lower left. I'm a right hand shot. The interwebs tell me this is from jerking the trigger or pulling the trigger to the left. I tried to work on this but not sure what I'm doing wrong. Feels like a good straight pull to the rear, but either it really isn't or I have some other hitch somewhere.

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:10 PM (IQ6Gq)

23 I have a strong feeling that irony is lost on the left

Posted by: Jamaica at April 14, 2024 07:10 PM (IG7T0)

24 Good evening, gunthusiasts.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 14, 2024 07:09 PM

Evenin', Ben Had!

*hoists Manhattan, stirred in the manner of CBD*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:10 PM (Wnv9h)

25 I suppose there is another bicycle with ammo. Wouldn't want to be that guy.

Posted by: fd at April 14, 2024 07:11 PM (vFG9F)

26 Bad news - clusters are consistently hitting from the bulls-eye down to the lower left. I'm a right hand shot. The interwebs tell me this is from jerking the trigger or pulling the trigger to the left. I tried to work on this but not sure what I'm doing wrong. Feels like a good straight pull to the rear, but either it really isn't or I have some other hitch somewhere.
Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:10 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Anticipating recoil? Don't do that.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:11 PM (QVgBk)

27 Taco night at church. Later, gators.

Posted by: Eromero at April 14, 2024 07:12 PM (DXbAa)

28 RMBS, hoists a Cab in return. Please say hello to RMBS Mom for me.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 14, 2024 07:13 PM (byJ28)

29 Congrats on the S&W 28, SiD. It's a beauty. It's a mystery why some guns on auction sites get attention and others don't. I've gotten a couple of good deals on what I would have thought were desirable guns and been gobsmacked at what some others go for.

Re: the actual content (see, I do ~~read~~ skim it), I happened across a Youtube video a few weeks ago with Rob Leatham titled "Why Aiming is Useless." As you probably guessed, the title is clickbait. His point was that aiming is useless unless and until you are able to pull the trigger without moving the rest of the gun off target. Which is a fair enough point I suppose.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:13 PM (/y8xj)

30 No range report this week. (Or this year for that matter!)

Whenever I make it out to the farm, I have too many work projects that are overdue.

Did take a break Saturday to help my brother get set up for spring turkey season. The cell phone game camera just chimed at me, and there is a turkey that has wandered into the "harvest zone". Hopefully, the evening pattern will hold, and he can go out with my nephews this week and bag some tasty turkeys!

P.S. If anyone needs to monitor something too distant for the wifi range or direct wiring range of their house, the cell phone game cameras are a great addition to the tool box to catch trespassers, revenuers looking for your moonshine still, etc.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:14 PM (HlyYF)

31 Late.
But the Marital Capital Account has been replenished.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:14 PM (ufoOV)

32 Range time you ask? Yes indeed, twice this week. And those fundamentals that Weasel keeps harping about? Well...I started with grip. Found out that doing it "correctly" may or may not work, but making an adjustment for my funky joints works far better. So, score that a win. Next up was sight lines, and by the end of today I determined what I was doing wrong, and believe it or not, those bullets were within those black circles - including the tiny red one! To say this is exciting is an understatement. This week's assignment is stance, which will probably take more than one session.

Posted by: Grateful at April 14, 2024 07:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

33 What a beautiful 28, s i d!

old-school S&W quality assures many many years of shooting enjoyment!

with the 6" barrel that gun should produce exceptional accuracy even at fairly long (for a pistol) distances.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying to us for decades at April 14, 2024 07:14 PM (PFYt9)

34 No one expects the SiD acquisition!

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 07:14 PM (vtyCZ)

35 RMBS, hoists a Cab in return. Please say hello to RMBS Mom for me.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 14, 2024 07:13 PM

Will do!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:14 PM (Wnv9h)

36 No one expects the SiD acquisition!
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 07:14 PM

*golf clap*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:15 PM (Wnv9h)

37 I saw "Cat Women of the Moon" at a midnight show many years ago. The print was in terrible shape, so much so that my friend said (speaking as one of the heroes) "A couple more jump cuts and we should be out of here!"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 14, 2024 07:15 PM (CHHv1)

38 Good evening, fellow gub threadists! Very nice iron, SiD!
I just got to the thread, as strangely enough I just now signed, scanned, and emailed my Form 8879-PE to the accountant. I suppose I could have waited until the last minute to send it . . .

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at April 14, 2024 07:15 PM (3rnQf)

39 26 Anticipating recoil? Don't do that.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:11 PM
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May be more subtle than I'm aware of. Tried to keep that in mind at the range. Did firing at home with snap caps and a coin on the end of the barrel and went very well.

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

40 I think "bicycle guns" used to be a thing of some kind. I don't think you pedalled them, but cool anyway.

Posted by: irright at April 14, 2024 07:16 PM (1dyot)

41 Congrats SiD on your acquisition, may you have many happy years shooting that piece.

That picture with the machine gun mounted on the bicycle is interesting. How fast does it go from 0-60 in full auto?

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:17 PM (f0/sc)

42 *hoists a Bloody Mary to all good Hordelings everywhere!*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying to us for decades at April 14, 2024 07:17 PM (PFYt9)

43 May be more subtle than I'm aware of. Tried to keep that in mind at the range. Did firing at home with snap caps and a coin on the end of the barrel and went very well.
Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Try having someone load a magazine with a snap-cap round among the live rounds without your looking. See what happens when it goes 'click'.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:18 PM (QVgBk)

44 SiD - appreciate the story!

Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at April 14, 2024 07:18 PM (n3DL0)

45 Sunday Gun Day! Sorry I'm late, I was eating a messy sammich and couldn't type.

Thanks, y'all, I'm pretty happy about my recent purchase.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 07:19 PM (wQXfi)

46 If you think that machinegun bicycle is bizarre, check out the Vespa 150 TAP. It's a scooter with an integral 75mm recoilless rifle, used by French paratroopers. It's real and it's spectacular.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 14, 2024 07:19 PM (5YmYl)

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Anticipating recoil? Don't do that.
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:11 PM -
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Exactly. I find it as easy as not thinking of an elephant.

Posted by: irright at April 14, 2024 07:19 PM (1dyot)

48 Nice pistol, SiD.
How was the Highway Patrolman?

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:20 PM (ufoOV)

49 thanks again for the thread, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 07:20 PM (tT6L1)

50 Anticipating recoil? Don't do that.
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May be more subtle than I'm aware of.

This video helped me with that probably more than any other single thing.

https://youtu.be/nYzheuJE47E

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:20 PM (/y8xj)

51 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:20 PM (IFNME)

52 Bad news - clusters are consistently hitting from the bulls-eye down to the lower left. I'm a right hand shot. The interwebs tell me this is from jerking the trigger or pulling the trigger to the left. I tried to work on this but not sure what I'm doing wrong. Feels like a good straight pull to the rear, but either it really isn't or I have some other hitch somewhere.
Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:10 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Anticipating recoil? Don't do that.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:11 PM

I was doing that consistently until the range guy told me to ride the trigger just past the reset and stop, do not let the trigger run all of the way out before you shoot. Once I started doing that my groups tightened up and got back on target.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 14, 2024 07:20 PM (QNSds)

53 Did firing at home with snap caps and a coin on the end of the barrel and went very well.

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:15 PM

I have trouble holding the coin on the barrel - even before I pull the trigger!

I think I will need light sedation beforehand if I ever expect to find myself in a fire fight.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:20 PM (HlyYF)

54 Exactly. I find it as easy as not thinking of an elephant.
Posted by: irright at April 14, 2024 07:19 PM (1dyot)
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Agreed, it's easier said than done. That's part of the focus and concentration I keep talking about. You have to will yourself not to flinch.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:21 PM (QVgBk)

55 Seems like the bicycle machine gun is perfectly designed for French retreats.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:21 PM (ufoOV)

56 43 Try having someone load a magazine with a snap-cap round among the live rounds without your looking. See what happens when it goes 'click'.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:18 PM
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Good reminder. Thanks. The DMV MCG did that for me with a revolver early on and I had forgotten that idea. Will do.

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

57 Nice looking pistol, SiD. Hopefully, I'll get a gander at your pistol in TX in a few months.

Congratulations are definitely in order.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 07:22 PM (tT6L1)

58 55 Seems like the bicycle machine gun is perfectly designed for French retreats.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:21 PM

Right? Combination covering fire with a retreat.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:23 PM (f0/sc)

59 50 This video helped me with that probably more than any other single thing.

https://youtu.be/nYzheuJE47E

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:20 PM
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Thank you!

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

60 Belgian machinegun dog-cart.

https://tinyurl.com/hjts7hfc

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 07:24 PM (vtyCZ)

61 52 I was doing that consistently until the range guy told me to ride the trigger just past the reset and stop, do not let the trigger run all of the way out before you shoot. Once I started doing that my groups tightened up and got back on target.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 14, 2024 07:20 PM
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Thank you! Added to the list...

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:25 PM (IQ6Gq)

62 We went to the range this week. sra blaster and I joined TRex and grateful on side by side lanes and the Sig Army was in full effect, a Sig P226 Mk 25 and P365 X Macro on their lane and our matchy matchy P320 RXZPs on our lane.

Want to brag a bit on TRex and grateful as they really just got started in this sport and their posts make them sound like terrible shots and that just is not the case. They shoot good. Don't let them fool you.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:25 PM (IFNME)

63 Bluebell and Weasel, good call on the NoVaMoMe date. That way I can schedule the NHMiniMoMe a week or two later. Mud season and black fly season should be over by then.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:25 PM (ufoOV)

64 with the 6" barrel that gun should produce exceptional accuracy even at fairly long (for a pistol) distances.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
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J would often shoot his model 28-3 and the 1917 S&W revolver, also a 6 inch barrel, at up to 40 yards. I'm not that good so I stick with more typical pistol distances. But I shoot these 2 much better and more consistently than any other pistol.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 07:25 PM (wQXfi)

65 Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:25 PM (IFNME)
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Noted in their permanent records.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:26 PM (QVgBk)

66 -
Agreed, it's easier said than done. That's part of the focus and concentration I keep talking about. You have to will yourself not to flinch.
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:21 PM -
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I think my will WANTS to embarrass me, and probably should. It knows all my shameful secrets.

Posted by: irright at April 14, 2024 07:27 PM (1dyot)

67 Sensei weasel, given the whole world going shit etc., should we think about maybe buying guns and ammo?

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:28 PM (IFNME)

68 Pet Thread hijacking!

Dogs of WW1
https://tinyurl.com/4xf58xbc

Including 1914 Brits using a dog-cart for transporting a machinegun as well.
https://tinyurl.com/4yda6cft

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 07:28 PM (vtyCZ)

69 Watched the 1911 training video. Some comments:
- Note the use of tracer ammo by the trainees. I have never seen .45 ACP tracer ammo, ever.
- The revolver shown in the video looks like a Colt Official Police or Colt Commando (an Official Police w/ a Parkerized finish).
- Note the "teacup" two-handed grip method being taught.
- GI 1911 sights made the point shooting method taught to the trainees almost a necessity. The GI sights are difficult to use on the range. They're practically useless in low light conditions.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 07:28 PM (yRXSd)

70 Thanks Blaster. Appreciate your and SRA's support. But we are still newbies....

Posted by: Grateful at April 14, 2024 07:28 PM (IQ6Gq)

71 Sunday Gun Day! Sorry I'm late, I was eating a messy sammich and couldn't type.

Thanks, y'all, I'm pretty happy about my recent purchase.
Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 07:19 PM

Mmmm...messy sammiches are often the best sammiches.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:28 PM (Wnv9h)

72 Sadly, no range time this week, I had a range trip and plan in place, only to have my plan foiled by that dastardly villain: real life.

Next Friday I plan head out and confirm range data for an upcoming 1200 yard turkey shoot.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 07:28 PM (tT6L1)

73 I was eating a messy sammich and couldn't type.
Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 07:19 PM

Wut? That's a Bad Thing?

Dang, with that kind of thinking, next we'll be discussing taupe, fawn, ecru, and periwinkle, and then this could easily turn into the second Fashion Thread this week.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:29 PM (a3Q+t)

74 Oddbob,

I also clicked on your video.

Looked pretty good, so I clicked to save it to favorites, but it was already saved there.

Was that a past "Gun Thread" video?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:29 PM (HlyYF)

75 60 Belgian machinegun dog-cart.

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 07:24 PM

I give you the X-15 Cruise Basselope

https://tinyurl.com/3cmeu9hd

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:30 PM (f0/sc)

76 Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:29 PM (a3Q+t)
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Thought about you this week when WCv2 made a bold move and occupied the Cozy Cave. FSJ was not amused!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:31 PM (QVgBk)

77 Here's a fundamental that we found we had to think about - finger placement on the trigger. Remembering to get the pad of the last joint on the trigger insted of weapping it all up and getting the trigger in the crease of the joint.

It actually made a difference.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:31 PM (IFNME)

78 Paul was such a wealth of knowledge. RIP.

Congrats SID! Such a nice revolver!

I remember seeing a WW2 training film one time on "Snap Shooting In The Jungle" with the Thompson. The instructor was telling the fellas that while on the move if they came upon an ambush to fire bursts from the hip and to turn their body and weapon quickly towards where the enemy fire was coming from without using the sights.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 07:32 PM (R/m4+)

79 Sensei weasel, given the whole world going shit etc., should we think about maybe buying guns and ammo?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:28 PM

Not Sensei Weasel, but some kind of reason is needed to participate in that activity? When did this happen?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:32 PM (a3Q+t)

80 Range Report!
Vortex Venom glass arrived, is mounted and is zeroed.
PMag Back Up Sights do not fit under it, so last week’s zeroing was a rabbit hole.
AR10 hates 150 grain, loves 168 and may be fond of 175 and 185.
Reloaded 168 from all my fire-formed brass and so far it’s a 1 MOA gun. I think I can do better.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:33 PM (ufoOV)

81 Also, I will note that apparently due to the lack of appreciation from Gub Thread readers regarding the background chosen for the photograph of the CotW, we're back to plain jane backdrops.

#BeBetter

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:34 PM (a3Q+t)

82 Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:28 PM (IFNME)
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No question on ammo. In fact, GA Arms was having a sale/free shipping dealio this weekend. Expires tonite I think.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:35 PM (QVgBk)

83 @RI Red, hah, been there on the ammo front. I've a Howa in .243 Winchester that hates certain ammo. I had to give up a bunch of ammo for the rifle simply because it was useless in the gun, other than to make noise and maybe scare what I was shooting at.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 07:36 PM (tT6L1)

84 Another way to concentrate on fundamentals is dry firing - we have an iTarget and its getting a good bit of use in the house.

And its a lot cheaper that shooting real ammo.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:36 PM (IFNME)

85 A couple of weeks ago I asked about replacing a 1911 grip safety. I got the part yesterday and installed it today. The hardest part was removing the thumb safety. All the how-to videos say to pull and wiggle it and it will come out. I wiggled and pulled until my thumbs were raw. Finally found a vid showing a guy using a little plastic prybar. I don't have one of those but I do have some wooden framing shims and that did the trick. Now I have to take it back apart and trim a bit either from the bottom of the safety or the top of the mainspring housing. Probably the latter because that won't require messing with the thumb safety again.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:36 PM (sNc8Y)

86 I give you the X-15 Cruise Basselope

https://tinyurl.com/3cmeu9hd
Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:30 PM

As lefty as they were, I liked Bloom County.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:37 PM (Wnv9h)

87 Weasel, now that Tax Season is over, does that mean you can pay more attention to us?

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:37 PM (ufoOV)

88 Was that a past "Gun Thread" video?

Yes. Weasel featured it two or three years ago and I've repeated the recommendation several times since then.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM (sNc8Y)

89 Thought about you this week when WCv2 made a bold move and occupied the Cozy Cave. FSJ was not amused!
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:31 PM

Did FSJ ask for intervention, or just grump about it?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM (a3Q+t)

90 Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:31 PM (IFNME)

This may be a "fundamental" where your mileage may vary. I've seen and read several sources that say how you place your finger on the trigger is different for just about everyone --- place it where it feels right to you.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM (3rnQf)

91 Weasel, now that Tax Season is over, does that mean you can pay more attention to us?
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:37 PM (ufoOV)
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Are you a range babe?

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM (QVgBk)

92 S&W 28-2 was the first gun I ever bought, in 1979.

Posted by: Marty at April 14, 2024 07:39 PM (2VYdP)

93 91 Are you a range babe?

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM

Hey, he might identify as one!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:39 PM (f0/sc)

94 I have mentioned several times.

I am about as American can be, but I live in Australia because my wife is Australian and I love her so she wins.

But the original plan was for her to move to America with me, and I told her straight up the first thing I will buy her when she moves to the states is a gun. I'm not from a great place, and I grew up rougher than I lived as an adult. I was not going to allow my wife to be weak. So I took her shopping for a gun, and though she hates guns, for a reason, I will not ever let her live without the great equalizer in the land of the free.

In Australia it's illegal to carry the 3" knife that I have carried for the last 30 fucking years. Australia is a snowglobe nation. They think they are great, when really they are isolated and kept in a tiny little bottle to make the populace safe until the brits want to wast their lives on random war actions.

Australia has no hero's.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at April 14, 2024 07:40 PM (bqHza)

95 Blake, I couldn’t believe it. 150s were spraying all over about 4” apart at 100 yards. I almost doubted the whole PSA thing.
At least I’ve got the brass now.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:40 PM (ufoOV)

96 Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM (a3Q+t)
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He looked confused with hurt feelings, then went and hopped into the heated cat bed.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:40 PM (QVgBk)

97 Posted by: Marty at April 14, 2024 07:39 PM (
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Howdy and welcome!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:41 PM (QVgBk)

98 that little dog is no fool!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying to us for decades at April 14, 2024 07:42 PM (PFYt9)

99 88 Was that a past "Gun Thread" video?

Yes. Weasel featured it two or three years ago and I've repeated the recommendation several times since then.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM

Thanks. It just got moved to the "Watch List" BEFORE the next handgun trip to the range!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:42 PM (HlyYF)

100 Bluebell and Weasel, good call on the NoVaMoMe date. That way I can schedule the NHMiniMoMe a week or two later. Mud season and black fly season should be over by then.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:25 PM

*prepares to mark calendar*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:42 PM (Wnv9h)

101 Something that we don't include in our buy mantra enough - buy magazines, too. You need more of those than the 1, 2, or 3 that came with your gun.

I picked up a half dozen Amend2 P320 mags that were very reasonably priced in comparison to Sig OEM mags.

Also grateful pointed me to a place that is selling P320 Legion mags for half price - shipping was a little higher than I would have liked so I made that a little less painful by ordering a half dozen of those, too. Not sure that math pencils out, but, hey, no math.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:42 PM (IFNME)

102 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 07:32 PM (R/m4+)

If you've ever hefted a Thompson (especially the 1921 and 1928 models w/ foregrips), it's easy to understand why. If you bring a TSMG up to your shoulder, it's not a steady hold because the TSMG is so heavy and ill-balanced (even when unloaded). You'll get five rounds max on target before the recoil knocks your aim off center, due to the long drop built into the stock. The TSMG was designed to be fired from the hip at very close (bad breath) ranges. Tuck the stock between your elbow and body, and it'll get the job done at very close ranges.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 07:42 PM (yRXSd)

103 Anticipating recoil? Don't do that.
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:11 PM

There is iron in Weasel's words of technique for all Morons to see.

Posted by: Ten Bears at April 14, 2024 07:42 PM (a3Q+t)

104 70
But very determined and disciplined newbies!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (iPhone version) at April 14, 2024 07:43 PM (hOUT3)

105 Wickedpinto sign!

On the gun thread, even!

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:43 PM (IFNME)

106 Weasel, now that Tax Season is over, does that mean you can pay more attention to us?
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:37 PM (ufoOV)
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Are you a range babe?
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM

I think we need to hear from Mrs. RI Red on this.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM (Wnv9h)

107 94 We were in Australia a few years back, and an couple from there were quizzing us on why we Americans have to have guns? Simply told her that we had a disagreement with our British landlords a few centuries ago and decided we weren't going to do that again. You should have seem the withering look she game me!

Posted by: Grateful at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

108 I've a Howa in .243 Winchester that hates certain ammo.
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I bought a Howa 1500 in 6.5 CR several months ago; I haven't broken it in but I'll have to see about different ammo makers then in case the same thing happens to it.

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM (vtyCZ)

109 Posted by: Wickedpinto at April 14, 2024 07:40 PM (bqHza)
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Howdy and welcome to you too!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM (QVgBk)

110 Are you a range babe?

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM

Hey, he might identify as one!!
Posted by: Scuba Dude

I identify as a Range Master. In my head.
IRL, I am a range disaster.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM (ufoOV)

111 93 91 Are you a range babe?

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM

Hey, he might identify as one!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:39 PM

Good point, Scoob!

Surely, if I identify as a 0.5 MOA shooter, then I will be able to shoot that way in the real world!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM (HlyYF)

112 This may be a "fundamental" where your mileage may vary. I've seen and read several sources that say how you place your finger on the trigger is different for just about everyone --- place it where it feels right to you.

Agreed. Too close to the tip and you'll push the gun left (assuming right-handed). Too far from the tip and you'll pull it right. It depends on each gun and each hand.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM (sNc8Y)

113 Ammo question - how much variation is there between manufacturers of the same ammo? We see the exact same specs made by different manufacturers. I'm guessing each would say that their process is the best, but are there some that are known to be better or worse (or at least more or less consistent) than others?

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

114 I identify as a Range Master. In my head.
IRL, I am a range disaster.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM (ufoOV)
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Master of Disaster?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 07:45 PM (tT6L1)

115 Ammo question - how much variation is there between manufacturers of the same ammo?

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:45 PM

All the variation.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:46 PM (Wnv9h)

116 Some advice for the newbies from a slightly less newbie...Things don;t always progress the way you hope. You can have a bad day or even a bad run just when you thought you knew what you were doing. I can personally attest to this. Just have to put the bad day at teh range behind you and Work on the Fundamentals next time.
(did I do that right Weasel?)

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 07:46 PM (t/2Uw)

117 Australia has no hero's.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at April 14, 2024 07:40 PM

Can you get a "Crocodile Dundee" knife to carry and have it registered as a movie prop?

Bureaucrats the world over seem to be stupid enough to fall for stuff like that.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:47 PM (HlyYF)

118 I see in the SEH video she's holding up a S&W M&P EZ. We got sra blaster's older sister into one of those, and she just got her CWP. The Nation's Gun Show is next weekend so we are headed there to help her pick out a holster.

And advice for those seeking a good carry gun - consider holster choices and mag availability/price as well. I mean the king of that is Glock but this does kind of restrict you to major brands. But logistics is important.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:47 PM (IFNME)

119 Australia is a strange bird. Virtually everything on the continent is trying to kill you and the government disarms you.

That being said, I am planning on going there in 2028 and spend a good part of a month seeing the sights of Australia and with luck New Zealand. NZ Frank is now forewarned. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:48 PM (f0/sc)

120 Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
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It seems counterintuitive, but muchly difference. Find something your gun likes and just as importantly, that you have confidence in, and stick with that.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:48 PM (QVgBk)

121 Speaking of AR-10's I finally broke down and ordered a couple of 24" 6.5 Creedmoor barrels from Ballistic Advantage. They'll fit nicely between my 308's and 6 Creedmoor's. LOL

Posted by: ck at April 14, 2024 07:48 PM (nMOLw)

122 true dat, blaster ... if I don't see anything else tempting at local gun stores there's always another Magpul 30 round or Wilson Combat 8-round ... I think I have enough HKs and speed-strips for the revolvers.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying to us for decades at April 14, 2024 07:49 PM (PFYt9)

123 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 07:46 PM (t/2Uw)
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100%!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:49 PM (QVgBk)

124 Surely, if I identify as a 0.5 MOA shooter, then I will be able to shoot that way in the real world!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM

The journey to 0.5 MOA begins with a single shot.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM (a3Q+t)

125 112 Too close to the tip and you'll push the gun left (assuming right-handed). Too far from the tip and you'll pull it right. It depends on each gun and each hand.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM
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Interesting observation. I've been doing finger pad rather than finger crease. Thx.

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

126 73
Duncanthrax
Wait until you see Sharon's new Glock!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (iPhone version) at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM (hOUT3)

127 OK looking to buy snap caps to work on my flinching issue. Holy cow - $18 for 5? Are they reusable?

Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM (n3DL0)

128 For the record, I can fire 0.5 MOA single-shot groups all day.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM (a3Q+t)

129 There's only one problem with shooting 0.5 MOA...one gets frustrated when the group opens up to .8 MOA.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 07:51 PM (tT6L1)

130 TRex, there is a world of difference between ammo manufacturers. None of the same caliber shoots the same. That’s why you’ll see a bunch of us talking about reloading.
And certain ammo works better in certain guns.
You can literally tune your ammo to your gun.
That’s what I am doing now with my .308. Seeing if a factory load is good, then trying to duplicate it, then beat it.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:51 PM (ufoOV)

131 128 For the record, I can fire 0.5 MOA single-shot groups all day.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM (a3Q+t)

ISWYDT

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 07:51 PM (IFNME)

132 yes they are, Iris

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying to us for decades at April 14, 2024 07:51 PM (PFYt9)

133 Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 07:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

I don't think it's ammo manufacturers' QA/QC (there is a significant difference between the likes of Red Army and Hornady) as there is between ammo types. Your cheap practice ammo probably won't get the same level of QA/QC put into it as defense or match ammo. That QA/QC work costs $$, and you'll pay the price for it w/ each round you buy.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 07:51 PM (yRXSd)

134 @ Iris, yes, snap caps are reusable.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 07:52 PM (tT6L1)

135 Iris, yes, assuming you can find them when they roll under the furniture or fly into a hoodie pocket.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 07:52 PM (wQXfi)

136 The TSMG was designed to be fired from the hip at very close (bad breath) ranges. Tuck the stock between your elbow and body, and it'll get the job done at very close ranges.
Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 07:42 PM (yRXSd)

Yup...that's exactly what the instructor was telling the guys. I searched the interboobs but couldn't find it but it is out there somewhere. Those old black and white training films are a wealth of know how.

Thanks Ed L!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 07:52 PM (R/m4+)

137 OK looking to buy snap caps to work on my flinching issue. Holy cow - $18 for 5? Are they reusable?

The good A-Zoom or similar ones are reusable until you lose them. Cheaper plastic ones will get torn up by the extractor eventually.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:52 PM (sNc8Y)

138 At one time we had Spectre M4 in the armory (think we "borrowed" them from someone in ISAF). While a little heavy for its size, It was a magnificent MG. It had a DA/SA trigger, delayed blowback, some weird closed two part bolt. No safety. Most were in 9mm. But one was in .45. We had 30 and 50 round mags, some which had tracers. That's the last time I saw a .45 tracer.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 14, 2024 07:53 PM (gx6ss)

139 Well that makes my cheapskate heart a little happier...

Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at April 14, 2024 07:53 PM (n3DL0)

140 124 The journey to 0.5 MOA begins with a single shot.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM

And we are keeping quiet how many shots later it will be before you are one.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:53 PM (f0/sc)

141 AR10 hates 150 grain, loves 168 and may be fond of 175 and 185.

Federal Gold Medal 168 FTW.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 14, 2024 07:53 PM (V8he0)

142 Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:51 PM (ufoOV)
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Very good, grasshopper.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:53 PM (QVgBk)

143 And SiD with the complete answer about snap caps.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 07:53 PM (tT6L1)

144 Beautiful pistol SID, congratulations!
I'd be interested to know how the 'shoot-off' with the step son goes.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 07:54 PM (vGIR7)

145 Duncanthrax
Wait until you see Sharon's new Glock!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (iPhone version) at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM

Did she score one of the special Black Cherry or Stormtrooper G19s, or the all-gold G19X?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:55 PM (a3Q+t)

146 Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM (n3DL0)
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9mm? Email me.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:55 PM (QVgBk)

147 Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:51 PM (ufoOV)
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Very good, grasshopper.
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:53 PM

Wise in the Way of the Gun is this Moron.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 07:55 PM (Wnv9h)

148 I bought the MAX 9 which the Gun Test guys liked. Mine came with a red dot already mounted from a local gub store.
I have to go get some more range time; but, I like it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 07:55 PM (vGIR7)

149 128 For the record, I can fire 0.5 MOA single-shot groups all day.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM

Yep!

You are now exactly describing my level of shooting expertise.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:56 PM (HlyYF)

150 The TSMG was designed to be fired from the hip at very close (bad breath) ranges.
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Yup...that's exactly what the instructor was telling the guys.

My dad was an MP in Nevada during the atomic testing. They were issued TSMGs. He said that the way to shoot it was to hold it against your hip and hang the full weight of your left arm on the foreend.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 07:57 PM (sNc8Y)

151 Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at April 14, 2024 07:50 PM (n3DL0)

Get A-Zoom snap caps. They're made of solid aluminum. They're significantly more expensive than the cheaper ones made of plastic, but they'll last a lot longer in a semi-auto pistol. Also, if you buy a pack of 9mm snap caps, you can use them in any 9mm firearm. You should get many years of use out of them before you have to buy replacements.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 07:57 PM (yRXSd)

152 Notorious, I’ve found that 168 seems to be the sweet spot. Both Federal Gold Match and Hornady Match turn in respectable results.
But as a reloader, I’m always trying to beat the manufacturer. I’ve done it in 6.5 CM with a bolt gun - now I’m trying to see if I can do .308 in a gas gun.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:58 PM (ufoOV)

153 AZ, I'm sure he will out-shoot me but it will make me smile (and probably cry a little too)

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 07:58 PM (wQXfi)

154 9mm? Email me.
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I've got eleven 9mm snapcaps because one of the two packs I bought had six in it instead of five!

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 07:58 PM (vtyCZ)

155 Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 07:58 PM (vtyCZ)
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Lucky!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:00 PM (QVgBk)

156 We are an hour in. How we doing vis a vis the food thread?

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:00 PM (IFNME)

157 SiD, that gun is really a work of art. Like a hand crafted piece of furniture, but with the added value of being an incredibly useful piece of equipment.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 08:00 PM (t/2Uw)

158 I've got eleven 9mm snapcaps because one of the two packs I bought had six in it instead of five!
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 07:58 PM

I hope you don't live in California, New York, or Illinois.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:00 PM (a3Q+t)

159 TEF TV!

The Betterhalf came over and sang and danced to that piece. She said "That's my dad's favorite".
Thanks Weasel!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 08:01 PM (vGIR7)

160 I hope you don't live in California, New York, or Illinois.
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I understood that reference.

10-round pistol mag limit here too but it's just 10+1

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 08:03 PM (vtyCZ)

161 Calling it a night. Still battling a cold I caught last week. Annoying as heck.

Thanks again Weasel for supplying us reprobates with content week after week for this little hobby.

Have a good week everyone!!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 08:04 PM (f0/sc)

162 Sharon, it is beautiful and a joy to shoot. Sort of like the 1911, it just feels right in your hand.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:04 PM (wQXfi)

163 Lucky!
Posted by: Weasel
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But bought a bunch of .303 Brit ones for my nephew that are expensive as heck and only two to a pack so no freebies there.

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 08:05 PM (vtyCZ)

164 OK, JUNIOR ARMORERS! Question for the day:
You are shooting an AR, either 15 or 10, doesn’t matter. All of a sudden the bolt will only go back 2/3 of the way.
You take it home,take the lower off, and you can’t remove the charging handle or bolt carrier group. What gives? (It took me about 10 minutes.)

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:05 PM (ufoOV)

165 Duncanthrax, it is lilac with a black slide. Very sexy.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 08:05 PM (t/2Uw)

166 Adios Scoob!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:06 PM (QVgBk)

167 AZ, I'm sure he will out-shoot me but it will make me smile (and probably cry a little too)
Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 07:58 PM

{{{SiD}}}

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 08:06 PM (Wnv9h)

168 You take it home,take the lower off, and you can’t remove the charging handle or bolt carrier group. What gives? (It took me about 10 minutes.)
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:05 PM (ufoOV)
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Drop the trigger group?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 08:07 PM (tT6L1)

169 Have a good week everyone!!!
Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 08:04 PM

Peace out, Scoob.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 08:07 PM (Wnv9h)

170 SiD, do take care of that box. From what I see in the pictures, that Highway Patrolman does qualify as a collectible firearm with the box in the condition it's in.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 08:07 PM (yRXSd)

171 Oh, wait, trigger group comes off when you remove the lower. (I'm new to the AR configuration)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 08:07 PM (tT6L1)

172 Oddbob will try that video suggestion
I have no place close to fire my handguns, but can set up a BB pistol and maybe accomplish this

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2024 08:07 PM (fwDg9)

173 Night, Scoobs.Serves you right for going eclipse watching in TX..

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:08 PM (ufoOV)

174 Weasel

How is your sword refurbishment going. I didn't hear a resolution. Been busy on Sunday night, but now my taxes are done.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 08:08 PM (u82oZ)

175 I better call it too
Hope everyone has a great evening

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2024 08:08 PM (fwDg9)

176 Ah, what is it, the cam pin? Something wrong with the cam pin on the bolt carrier?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 08:09 PM (tT6L1)

177 You are shooting an AR, either 15 or 10, doesn’t matter. All of a sudden the bolt will only go back 2/3 of the way.
You take it home,take the lower off, and you can’t remove the charging handle or bolt carrier group. What gives? (It took me about 10 minutes.)
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:05 PM (ufoOV)

Sounds like its broken.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:09 PM (IFNME)

178 Correct, blake. Not a lower issue.
And it’s not obvious, at least to me.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:09 PM (ufoOV)

179 Looking forward to the gun show next weekend so I can pick up the Holosun for the new Glock. Looked at pricing and it looks like I can get the best price there.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 08:10 PM (t/2Uw)

180 SiD, do take care of that box. From what I see in the pictures, that Highway Patrolman does qualify as a collectible firearm with the box in the condition it's in.
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Best I can do is 50 bucks.

Posted by: Rick at April 14, 2024 08:10 PM (vtyCZ)

181 EdL and HB Guy, the Thompson was made in reaction to the French doctrine of walking fire using their Chauchat lmg that the US used to much lesser success in 30.06 compared to the original 8 mm Level for which the Chauchat was designed around.

Easier for the US to use 45 acp as it was already in the logistics system for the US due to the 1911 pistol.

The Garand was heavy enough to do the same thing in WW2 but it was a field expedient and not taught as doctrine.

Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:10 PM (vKfbp)

182 blaster, is master, of the obvious!

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:10 PM (ufoOV)

183 Oddbob will try that video suggestion
I have no place close to fire my handguns, but can set up a BB pistol and maybe accomplish this

That is one thing about that method. It only works for live fire because if you're dry firing, your brain knows there's not going to be any noise and recoil so it won't try to "protect" you from it.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 08:11 PM (sNc8Y)

184 Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 08:08 PM (u82oZ)
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Howdy Salty! I have a note on my to-do list to call the guy. I haven't heard anything and we're way past the 2 year wait he mentioned.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:11 PM (QVgBk)

185 {{SiD}}}
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Thank you {{{RMBS}}}

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:11 PM (wQXfi)

186 And this failure is in something I have never used in 50 years of handling ARs.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:12 PM (ufoOV)

187 177 RI Red, check your charging handle. They can get warped. The charging handle channel rarely can develop a burr or be affected if some debris is in that channel.

Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:13 PM (vKfbp)

188 86 And this failure is in something I have never used in 50 years of handling ARs.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:12 PM (ufoOV)
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Fwd assist?

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:13 PM (QVgBk)

189 186 And this failure is in something I have never used in 50 years of handling ARs.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:12 PM (ufoOV)

The forward assist?

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:13 PM (IFNME)

190 Hint: Upon inspection the forward assist seems to be way forward.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:14 PM (ufoOV)

191 Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:05 PM (ufoOV)

Lack of lubrication?

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at April 14, 2024 08:14 PM (3rnQf)

192 And this failure is in something I have never used in 50 years of handling ARs.

I'm trying to think of what could break or get jammed behind the gas key and I'm not coming up with anything. Interesting puzzle.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 08:14 PM (sNc8Y)

193 thanks, again, weasel! Time to wander.

Later!

And, again, great job SiD. Nice firearm you've added to your collection.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 14, 2024 08:15 PM (tT6L1)

194 Adios blake!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:16 PM (QVgBk)

195 And this failure is in something I have never used in 50 years of handling ARs.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:12 PM (ufoOV)
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Fwd assist?
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:13 PM

The thing that goes up?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:16 PM (a3Q+t)

196 Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:10 PM (vKfbp)

Didn't the US get the opportunity to try out their version of "walking fire" with the BAR in the closing weeks of WWI? The TSMG prototypes never made over to France (as far as I know). The BAR was a much better firearm than the Chauchat, but six weeks (or less) wasn't much time to test and refine the doctrine. Especially since only a very few US units (36th Division, 4th Marine Brigade among them) ever got to use BARs in combat.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 08:16 PM (yRXSd)

197 screaming in digital

When you mentioned a Highway Patrolman in an earlier thread, I thought, "Well, she is stepping out. A sign of recovery. I'm sure she can protect the poor guy. And this is better than Rokko or Thor from a dive bar."

I will put cash money down that you will outshot your stepson.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 08:16 PM (u82oZ)

198 Ed, I definitely will. It has some other stuff too. Can't wait to show y'all in person. Based on advice from Stinky's Daddy, I think it was a good price. I saw others with higher minimum bids (and some lower that didn't look as nice) but I had my limit and I stuck to it. Good thing nobody else wanted this particular one.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:16 PM (wQXfi)

199 188 86 And this failure is in something I have never used in 50 years of handling ARs.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:12 PM (ufoOV)
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Fwd assist?
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:13 PM (QVgBk)

189 186 And this failure is in something I have never used in 50 years of handling ARs.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:12 PM (ufoOV)

The forward assist?
Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:13 PM

Hordemind...beautiful and terrible.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 14, 2024 08:17 PM (Wnv9h)

200 I am rereading a Reacher book where he is trying to determine which of a group of 4 possible snipers could have made a 1400 yd shot in an assassination attempt at teh French President. Amazingly, I understand exactly what is going into his analysis. It is making the story much more fun to read.(at one point wind analysis is critical). I have found this in multiple books which involve firearms especially where they go into detail about why they carry or use a particular gun.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 08:17 PM (t/2Uw)

201 And this failure is in something I have never used in 50 years of handling ARs.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:12 PM (ufoOV)
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Fwd assist?
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:13 PM

The thing that goes up?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:16 PM (a3Q+t)
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Thing that goes down?

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:17 PM (QVgBk)

202 Weasel, with blaster close behind.
Somehow the forward assist lever that engages the bolt got caught, broke, and carried forward. It is the only part that could get in the way. I tapped the assist backward, pulled the little lever out, and all is good.
But it had me for a while.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:17 PM (ufoOV)

203 While we are gunsmithing by ESP, I have a budy with a TNW Aero Survival Rifle. It's a takedown rifle with a barrel that slides into the receiver and the barrel nut which is basically the heat shroud screws down.

Except his the barrel nut goes about 2/3 of the way, his barrel rattles.

There's a pin that sticks through the receiver that is a tension device for the ratchet on the barrel nut - he thinks that is protruding too far and keeping the barrel nut from bottoming out. Anyone have experience with this rifle?

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:17 PM (IFNME)

204 If we are going to talk Cat Women on the Moon, I should bring up a YT channel showing Space: MCMXCIX reruns. I first saw this when I was nine and didn't get it. I see it now at 29 and it makes much more sense. The first season is good, the second is just bizarre. Which is a shame, really...

Last week's eclipse allowed me to get the guns, sitting in San Antonio in a locked case, back to its proper home in my Panhandle abode, and now I need to clean them. I'm looking at firing them again next month in celebration of a major life event, as a long part of my life draws to a close.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 14, 2024 08:18 PM (WGqLx)

205 Thing that goes down?
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:17 PM

Bob Dole can help with that.

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 14, 2024 08:18 PM (Wnv9h)

206 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 08:17 PM (t/2Uw)
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Gun nut.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:19 PM (QVgBk)

207 Ditto everything Rhombiod said about the Brick House Classic. A very fine smoke.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 14, 2024 08:19 PM (W/lyH)

208 Salty, I only got a revolver by the name of "Highway Patrolman." No strapping young officer. Sorry to disappoint:-)

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:19 PM (wQXfi)

209 {{{ screaming in digital }}}

No disappointment. Enlightenment.
You chart your own course, and do not need a junior navigator.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 08:21 PM (u82oZ)

210 EdL and HB Guy, the Thompson was made in reaction to the French doctrine of walking fire using their Chauchat lmg that the US used to much lesser success in 30.06 compared to the original 8 mm Level for which the Chauchat was designed around.
Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:10 PM (vKfbp)

Ah, I did not know that. The French had some good ideas.

The Chauchat is one of those guns I have yet to see and shoot in MeatSpace. It gets a bad rap but I bet in the hands of a trooper who knew his weapon it probably worked quite well given the circumstances.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 08:21 PM (R/m4+)

211 When sra blaster and I are watching shows and movies now she's always saying "Pause it- what gun is that." Except when she spots them on her own. "That's an MP-5!"

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:23 PM (IFNME)

212 BTW, it appears that a number of AR 10s are being made without forward assists now.
I’m probably late to the party.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:24 PM (ufoOV)

213 No strapping young officer. Sorry to disappoint:-)
Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:19 PM

TBF, your first screening question "Compare and contrast Dewey and the LoC." is probably not something they went into any depth in the Academy, which may be keeping them away.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:25 PM (a3Q+t)

214 Somehow the forward assist lever that engages the bolt got caught, broke, and carried forward.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:17 PM

I know exactly what caused the failure.

RI Red has been working out and had GAINZZZ!

A normally constructed forward assist just isn't strong enough in that situation.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:25 PM (HlyYF)

215 Blaster mentioned considering availability of holsters when looking at carry guns. I will add to that, be prepared to buy several holsters, belts, belly bands, etc, before you find what works, and many of us will want/need some different options. I didn't realize this and it takes practice actually carrying to figure out. Probably obvious to everyone but me.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:25 PM (wQXfi)

216 I’m probably late to the party.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:24 PM

Welcome.

Posted by: John McClane at April 14, 2024 08:26 PM (Wnv9h)

217 So, I started reading up on the subject. Apparently, if you ride the charging handle forward (like if you want to be really quiet), you then push on the forward assist to put it into battery.
Son of a gun.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:27 PM (ufoOV)

218 213
Well done!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at April 14, 2024 08:27 PM (hOUT3)

219 Last week's eclipse allowed me to get the guns, sitting in San Antonio in a locked case, back to its proper home in my Panhandle abode,
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You're a vampire, CTT33??

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 08:27 PM (vtyCZ)

220 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 08:21 PM (R/m4+)

I've heard the Chauchat described as a WWI Sten gun, but without the same level of QC the Sten gun got. The fact that it was widely available in serious numbers (tens of thousands) was its strongest asset.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 08:27 PM (yRXSd)

221 Duncanthrax, Dewey aficionados are right out.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:27 PM (wQXfi)

222 Last week's eclipse allowed me to get the guns, sitting in San Antonio in a locked case, back to its proper home in my Panhandle abode, and now I need to clean them.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 14, 2024 08:18 PM

Dang, is there anything a good eclipse CAN'T do?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:27 PM (HlyYF)

223 {{{Salty}}}

Virtual hug til I can give you one in person.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 08:28 PM (t/2Uw)

224 212 BTW, it appears that a number of AR 10s are being made without forward assists now.
I’m probably late to the party.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:24 PM (ufoOV)

The 4 ARs at the bottom of our creek all have forward assists - I insist on them, because I have had to use them in, er, a few years of handling them.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:28 PM (IFNME)

225 PI, at my advanced age, my Gainz are only at the brain level.
Muscle atrophy sux.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:28 PM (ufoOV)

226 Catch 33, congrats! Enjoy your celebratory gunfire!

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:30 PM (wQXfi)

227 Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:24 PM (ufoOV)

As Eugene Stoner intended.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 08:30 PM (yRXSd)

228 be prepared to buy several holsters, belts, belly bands, etc, before you find what works, and many of us will want/need some different options. I didn't realize this and it takes practice actually carrying to figure out. Probably obvious to everyone but me.
Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:25 PM (wQXfi)

The drawer full of holsters is not just a trope!

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:30 PM (IFNME)

229 196 Ed L. The BAR was more of a squad weapon but it could indeed be used for walking fire. Brig General Thompson felt there was an opening though for pistol caliber SMG though but post WW 1 was a tough market for AutoOrdnance as the Thompson was unneeded by the US military and a huge amount of all kinds of surplus weaponry limited new sales abroad.

Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:30 PM (vKfbp)

230 210 HB Guy, supposedly the Chauchat is fairly reliable if you get the 8mm Lebel version.

Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:31 PM (vKfbp)

231 219 Last week's eclipse allowed me to get the guns, sitting in San Antonio in a locked case, back to its proper home in my Panhandle abode,
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You're a vampire, CTT33??
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 08:27 PM (vtyCZ)

Only in my wildest nightmares.

And when working deep into the night.

: o )

(The eclipse gave me the excuse to drive home and pick them up.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 14, 2024 08:31 PM (WGqLx)

232 Blaster, I watched an old army training film where a junior GI didn’t know how to use the forward assist and got dead.
I’ve always known about the use, but never had to.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:32 PM (ufoOV)

233 Even though sra blaster assured me that if we got the P320s I could still get the P226 RXP Legion, I kinda feel my dotted full size Sig appetite is sated and I want her to buy me a tractor instead.

Am I okay?

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:32 PM (IFNME)

234 225 PI, at my advanced age, my Gainz are only at the brain level.
Muscle atrophy sux.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:28 PM

I worked at the farm all day yesterday.

This morning when I rolled out of bed, my knees decided that they would be taking the rest of the weekend off!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:32 PM (HlyYF)

235 111 93 91 Are you a range babe?

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 07:38 PM

Hey, he might identify as one!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 14, 2024 07:39 PM

Good point, Scoob!

Surely, if I identify as a 0.5 MOA shooter, then I will be able to shoot that way in the real world!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM (HlyYF)
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But can you achieve equity?

Posted by: Ciampino - Bushes! I'm tired of eating bushes ... at April 14, 2024 08:33 PM (qfLjt)

236 But can you achieve equity?
Posted by: Ciampino - Bushes! I'm tired of eating bushes ... at April 14, 2024 08:33 PM (qfLjt)

You're a .5 MOA shooter, and you're a .5 MOA shooter, and ....

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:34 PM (IFNME)

237 Am I okay?
Posted by: blaster
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embrace the power of "and"

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:34 PM (wQXfi)

238 I've heard the Chauchat described as a WWI Sten gun, but without the same level of QC the Sten gun got. The fact that it was widely available in serious numbers (tens of thousands) was its strongest asset.
Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 08:27 PM (yRXSd)

Sounds right. I have never shot a French 8mm Lebel in anything but I figure it must be like a 8mm Mauser and give a bit of a kick.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 08:34 PM (R/m4+)

239 Procrastinators take heart. Form 4868 is your friend. Have a brother from church coming out tomorrow morning to try out my range. Fairly certain I have a blank F1040 hanging around. Think I'll put it up on the 100 yd target.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * hanging out at the corner of Crazy and Sanity at April 14, 2024 08:34 PM (3ElJg)

240 I worked at the farm all day yesterday.

This morning when I rolled out of bed, my knees decided that they would be taking the rest of the weekend off!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:32 PM (HlyYF)
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To the untrained eye, organic tree farming looks a lot like sitting in the shade smoking a cigar, but it's a lot of work I tell you!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:34 PM (RG6z4)

241 I went and checked myself - we just outstripped the fishy thread.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:35 PM (IFNME)

242 Another range trip today. Mrs. Splunge came too, which is more occasional, and always a cause for celebration. She is catching fundamentals fever too, and wants to get better groups with that little Glock 43 of hers. She says I've really improved, which was music to my ears. Yay for weekly range visits.

I think I've almost entirely cut out flinching aka anticipating the boom (down and to the left). It was mindset and habituation more than anything else. In my mind now, the boom has become much less noticeable, and my finger movement on the trigger a very isolated thing, as though in my mind I can just see a disembodied finger, a trigger, and nothing but fog around.

The next frontier in bad habits is anticipation of recoil (shots hitting low). Seems to be another mental thing, not sure just what is the right trick for that one, but I'll figure it out eventually.

I guess I had better decide whether to order more ammo before the May price rise.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 08:35 PM (oBPoz)

243 nd I want her to buy me a tractor instead.

Am I okay?
Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:32 PM

Only if you plan to charge the batteries on the kitchen counter.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:36 PM (a3Q+t)

244 I kinda feel my dotted full size Sig appetite is sated and I want her to buy me a tractor instead.

That brings bait-and-switch to a whole new level! But based on what you've told us before, I suspect you'll get away with it.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 08:36 PM (/y8xj)

245 Good news in general. Buddy at the range today said his buddy got a suppressor turnaround in THREE days!
Of course, that is hearsay.
I might have to investigate.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:36 PM (ufoOV)

246 Oh look, content! And it's about point shooting, a topic I have not yet dived into. Might have to wait until tomorrow, my brain is full of post-range thoughts right now.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 08:36 PM (oBPoz)

247 Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 08:35 PM (oBPoz)
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Behold the power of focus and concentration on fundamentals!!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:37 PM (RG6z4)

248 233 Even though sra blaster assured me that if we got the P320s I could still get the P226 RXP Legion, I kinda feel my dotted full size Sig appetite is sated and I want her to buy me a tractor instead.

Am I okay?

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:32 PM (IFNME)

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Careful not to catch gonorrhea from the seat.
{obligatory Seinfeld reference https://youtu.be/_LqNF8Z5Gzs}
That was posted on AoS a day or two ago by another Moron and it made me laugh - I had not seen that episode.

Posted by: Ciampino - Bushes! I'm tired of eating bushes .. at April 14, 2024 08:37 PM (qfLjt)

249 Iris, upon Ed L's recommendation, we purchased the A-Zoom snap caps in bright blue. Much easier to locate them after firing.

Posted by: Grateful at April 14, 2024 08:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

250 HB Guy, the Lebel is more like a 303 or the 8x57 mm with the 150 gr WW1 loading. By WW2, Germans went to heavier 196 gr bullets with a stouter powder charge for their 98k rifles.

Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:38 PM (vKfbp)

251 233 Even though sra blaster assured me that if we got the P320s I could still get the P226 RXP Legion, I kinda feel my dotted full size Sig appetite is sated and I want her to buy me a tractor instead.

Am I okay?

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:32 PM

I just asked my wife this week about buying a badly needed tractor. There is a nice JD at auction that is still currently way underpriced. (Based on her recent auction prowess, I should probably have SiD bid on it for me!)

However, if you look closely at the videos from Weasel Acres, you will note that our gracious host not only utilizes guns at the property, but he ALSO has a tractor!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:38 PM (HlyYF)

252 {{{sharon(willow's apprentice)}}}

Your hugs count as therapy in numerous HSAs. Next time we meet, your first drink in on me.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 08:38 PM (u82oZ)

253 Thank you for increasing my knowledge.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/
ar-15-forward-assist/

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 08:38 PM (vtyCZ)

254 Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:30 PM (vKfbp)

Thompson was a visionary, but he was either just too late for WWI or far too early for WWII. I've read that of the first 15,000 Model 1921 Thompsons made by Colt, sales were so slow that the last of these weapons weren't sold until 1940 when they went to the Brits, who were desperate for any SMG they could get.
Interestingly, the USMC obtained the first military Thompsons. But the USMC (always short of $$) didn't buy them. The Postal Service acquired 200 Thompsons to protect the mail when mail trains and post offices were robbed. Since the USMC got the job to protect the mail, the Post Office handed off the Thompsons to the USMC, who liked them and promptly took them into service.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 08:39 PM (yRXSd)

255 Current Food Thread comment count is 232, so we're looking good for a + in Weasel's Annual Evaluation.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:39 PM (a3Q+t)

256 SiD. I think I've got a set of Pachmyer Gripper Pros for the N frame, square butt. I'll dig down for 'em, and if found, bring 'em in October.

Most comfortable shooting grip on the revolver I've yet to find. Myriad physical reasons, too much to type. But, their magic is real, and works.

Personally, I shoot the 4" version better than the 6". Same in that I shoot a 1911 Commander, better than the standard Government Model. They just simply balance better, for me.

One of the Holy Grail of the N frame .357s, is the scarce 5" barrel on the Model 27, a favorite of legendary gun writer Skeeter Skelton, of 1970s gun-magazine (publications, not equipment) fame.

I bought my 4" bbl Model 28 in 1980. It has served me well. Alas, it's dying, not of old age, but by way of "flame cutting" the top strap, above the barrel cylinder gap.

Takes a whole lotta rounds to eat through the steel like that. Which is why it fires (mostly) only 148 gr. wadcutters, now. Low pressure, low stress loads. I'll keep shooting it for as long as it lets me.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 14, 2024 08:39 PM (e6UQI)

257 Y'all have fun. Not feeling so great tonight.

Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:39 PM (vKfbp)

258 Only if you plan to charge the batteries on the kitchen counter.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:36 PM (a3Q+t)
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Is there a better place?

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:40 PM (RG6z4)

259 Pillage Idiot

Every man about the farm needs a tractor. Some even need backhoes, but only the tough urban survivors living in Deep Democratic slums.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 08:40 PM (u82oZ)

260 Nothing wrong with a tractor.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 14, 2024 08:40 PM (R4t5M)

261 241 I went and checked myself - we just outstripped the fishy thread.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:35 PM (IFNME)
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A good plaice to be.

Posted by: Ciampino - A Plaice In The Country at April 14, 2024 08:41 PM (qfLjt)

262 whig

**Respectful tip of the hat to ya.**

And may your immune system bring smiles to your face.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 08:41 PM (u82oZ)

263 the Lebel is more like a 303 or the 8x57 mm with the 150 gr WW1 loading. By WW2, Germans went to heavier 196 gr bullets with a stouter powder charge for their 98k rifles.
Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:38 PM (vKfbp)

Oh, I did not know that. The .303 is a nice even shooter.

I wonder if anyone is still making 8mm Lebel. Probably PPU.

Thanks whig!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 08:41 PM (R/m4+)

264
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:38 PM (HlyYF)
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I love that tractor!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:41 PM (RG6z4)

265 Surely, if I identify as a 0.5 MOA shooter, then I will be able to shoot that way in the real world!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 07:44 PM
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But can you achieve equity?

Posted by: Ciampino - Bushes! I'm tired of eating bushes ... at April 14, 2024 08:33 PM

Yes, by the usual methods of authoritarian Leftists, I could certainly be the best shooter on the Gun Thread.

Step one, cut down all of the tall poppies. Step two, PI hits the broad side of a barn and demonstrates that the shortest poppy is now the best shooter.

QED.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:41 PM (HlyYF)

266 g'night everyone, & thanks as always Weasel!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying to us for decades at April 14, 2024 08:44 PM (PFYt9)

267 242 I guess I had better decide whether to order more ammo before the May price rise.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 08:35 PM
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Say more words. Expected annual price increase? Kind of like gas prices going up right before everyone takes summer road trips?

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 08:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

268 Nite sock!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:44 PM (RG6z4)

269 258 Only if you plan to charge the batteries on the kitchen counter.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:36 PM (a3Q+t)
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Is there a better place?

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:40 PM (RG6z4)
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The make-up vanity table in the bedroom? Handy curtains to wipe greasy hands too.

Posted by: Ciampino - A Plaice In The Country? at April 14, 2024 08:45 PM (qfLjt)

270 Jim, thank you! So far, I'm happy with the wood grips on the model 28. My 1917 has small, smooth wood grips that I found very uncomfortable, and I like it much better with Pachmayr. The model 28, though, is pretty comfortable with wood grips so far.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 08:46 PM (wQXfi)

271 However, if you look closely at the videos from Weasel Acres, you will note that our gracious host not only utilizes guns at the property, but he ALSO has a tractor!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:38 PM (HlyYF)

I am aware! I just want a Ford 8N which we can get at about the same price as a Sig 226 RXP

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:46 PM (IFNME)

272 233 I want her to buy me a tractor instead.

Am I okay?

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:32 PM
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Are you going to mount a machine gun on the back to make it go like the French bicycle guy?

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 08:46 PM (IQ6Gq)

273 I want her to buy me a tractor instead.

Am I okay?
Posted by: blaster

Satiated with gubs and want/need tractor... heck yeah... I'd go for a tractor in a heartbeat.
(As long as I have money to by ammo... lots of ammo.)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 08:46 PM (vGIR7)

274 I hear the U.S. is ramping up production of 155mm artillery rounds.

Hopefully, the price of those will go back down to reasonable levels in a few years!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:46 PM (HlyYF)

275 The make-up vanity table in the bedroom? Handy curtains to wipe greasy hands too.
Posted by: Ciampino - A Plaice In The Country? at April 14, 2024 08:45 PM (qfLjt)
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Have a carburetor soaking in a salad bowl on that.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:47 PM (RG6z4)

276 AND, BTW:
Kitty litter made from corn does a wonderful job as brass cleaning media in a tumbler.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:47 PM (ufoOV)

277 Thanks for another gun thread Weasel.

Dinner beckons!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:48 PM (HlyYF)

278 But as a reloader, I’m always trying to beat the manufacturer. I’ve done it in 6.5 CM with a bolt gun - now I’m trying to see if I can do .308 in a gas gun.
Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 07:58 PM

Endeavor to persevere! Best of luck to ya, Red.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 14, 2024 08:48 PM (V8he0)

279 Good news in general. Buddy at the range today said his buddy got a suppressor turnaround in THREE days!
Of course, that is hearsay.
I might have to investigate.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:36 PM

I recently saw a video on youtube about that very thing. They claimed that for some unknown reason the ATF has streamlined their internal process and what used to take 10-12 months is now usually less than three months.

All I know is my NFA suppressor application 5 years back took 14 months to get approved.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 14, 2024 08:49 PM (QNSds)

280 Adios PI!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:49 PM (RG6z4)

281 Y'all have fun. Not feeling so great tonight.
Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 08:39 PM (vKfbp)

Get some rest Brother and please take care and hope you feel better.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 08:49 PM (R/m4+)

282 Ammoseek really is a pretty terrific way to find the best price for ammo. You can screen so that the lowest shipping priced dealers come up first on the list and there are reviews so you know if a place is reliable. you can screen for a particular brand as well as caliber.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 08:49 PM (t/2Uw)

283 279 Good news in general. Buddy at the range today said his buddy got a suppressor turnaround in THREE days!
Of course, that is hearsay.
I might have to investigate.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:36 PM

Check out SilencerShop - they are sold out of just about everything.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:50 PM (IFNME)

284 I bought my 4" bbl Model 28 in 1980. It has served me well. Alas, it's dying, not of old age, but by way of "flame cutting" the top strap, above the barrel cylinder gap.

Jim, I never understood flame cutting until I put my left forefinger forward of the forcing cone.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:50 PM (ufoOV)

285 Whig, hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 08:50 PM (yRXSd)

286 Hope tomorrow is a better day for ya, whig.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 14, 2024 08:51 PM (V8he0)

287 Hopefully, the price of those will go back down to reasonable levels in a few years!
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Alright! By then I should have my 155mm SpGH ZUZANA paid-off!

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 08:52 PM (vtyCZ)

288 RI Red....

Check whether the gas key is properly staked and nice and tight. If it bounces around at all it will impede the bolt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2024 08:52 PM (A3700)

289 Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:47 PM (ufoOV)
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You can get big bags of crushed walnut media sold in pet stores as reptile bedding. Very reasonably priced.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 08:52 PM (RG6z4)

290 I hear the U.S. is ramping up production of 155mm artillery rounds.

Hopefully, the price of those will go back down to reasonable levels in a few years!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:46 PM

After the chiding, even beratement, that I received for posting the charge weight in grains for a 16" gun on an Iowa-class battleship here, I will not post any reloading data for your 155 here.

For the reloading noobs here however, I will say start light, and work your way up, paying attention to any overpressure signs.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:52 PM (a3Q+t)

291 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:46 PM (HlyYF)

They're looking to double production this year and ramp up production even further in 2025 and 2026. I think their goal 500,000 shells per year by the end of 2025. In the interim, expect ammo prices to continue going up. That artillery ammo getting used in Ukraine and Israel requires gunpowder to send the shell downrange, and it's got to come from somewhere.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 08:54 PM (yRXSd)

292 272 233 I want her to buy me a tractor instead.

Am I okay?

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:32 PM
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Are you going to mount a machine gun on the back to make it go like the French bicycle guy?

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 08:46 PM (IQ6Gq)
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It's a Bersagliere - Italian, not French. I didn't know FIAT made MGs, we learn new stuff all the time. Thanks Weasel.

Posted by: Ciampino - Also made electric trains at April 14, 2024 08:54 PM (qfLjt)

293 you can screen for a particular brand as well as caliber.
Posted by: sharon

Agree, I find that I like eliminating known 'dirty' ammo manufacturers as well.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 08:54 PM (vGIR7)

294 Have a great night, everyone.

May you not need a zeroed distance of less than 30 feet for your bedside cordless hole puncher.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 08:55 PM (u82oZ)

295 I was just checking my Midway account and somebody ordered a bunch of Norma 168 grain .308 ammo this weekend. I certainly don’t remember that.
Must have been Mrs. Red.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 08:56 PM (ufoOV)

296 A CROW on a tractor sounds like a not bad idea....

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2024 08:56 PM (IFNME)

297 I hear the U.S. is ramping up production of 155mm artillery rounds.

Hopefully, the price of those will go back down to reasonable levels in a few years!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 14, 2024 08:46 PM

After the chiding, even beratement, that I received for posting the charge weight in grains for a 16" gun on an Iowa-class battleship here, I will not post any reloading data for your 155 here.

For the reloading noobs here however, I will say start light, and work your way up, paying attention to any overpressure signs.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 08:52 PM

Don't go purple bag for your first reload on the 155mm howitzer.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 14, 2024 08:58 PM (QNSds)

298 Anyone shooting a .50 Beowulf, can not expect accuracy better than 0.5 MOA, one shot groups.

*grins, runs*

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 14, 2024 08:58 PM (e6UQI)

299 CBD, all good, it was the forward assist. I am noticing that the AR 10 recoil, although not felt, seems to loosen things quickly.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 09:01 PM (ufoOV)

300 300!

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 09:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

301 267 242 I guess I had better decide whether to order more ammo before the May price rise.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 08:35 PM
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Say more words. Expected annual price increase? Kind of like gas prices going up right before everyone takes summer road trips?
Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 08:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

It was an email from SGAmmo:

We have become aware of another round or price increases from the ammo factories, and many popular items will be effected very soon. The Kinetic group (AKA Vista & the brands CCI, Speer, Federal and Remington) has announced a May 1st price increase on all handgun ammo, and they are the factory that leads the market up and down due to their massive production capacity and portfolio of iconic ammunition brands. Winchester just went up on 9mm and is expected to follow Federal on other calibers in May. Magtech / S&B have verbally stated they will follow Federal's lead and increase in a similar percentage, and Prvi Partizan announced verbally they are doing a 6% to 7% price increase coming in June. If you care about paying prices that are 7% more, now is the time to buy.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 09:01 PM (oBPoz)

302 Thanks for another great thread, Weasel.
Nicely done SiD on your acquisition.
Back to the house projects for me.

Posted by: scampydog at April 14, 2024 09:02 PM (41CYW)

303 301 I guess I had better decide whether to order more ammo before the May price rise.

It was an email from SGAmmo:

If you care about paying prices that are 7% more, now is the time to buy.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 09:01 PM
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Thank you. Very helpful. Current events gub knowledge on the gub thread. How about that!

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 09:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

304 Yup, another great thread, Weasel. Although I may have just blabbed a lot.
I love this thread. Ace, please take notice for Weasel’s annual report.

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2024 09:05 PM (ufoOV)

305 Thanks guys.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 09:06 PM (RG6z4)

306 Just got home from a tough church voters meeting. I didn't shoot this week. It's probably a good thing or I might have been tempted to use a couple of people for target practice tonight.

Thanks for the thread (in advance of me reading it), Weasel. And happy Sunday to everyone.

Posted by: GWB at April 14, 2024 09:06 PM (1zxQh)

307 From the opening credits to "Cat Women On The Moon:

Hair Stylist: Ida Forgett

Seriously? How many other people decided they didn't want their real name used on that thing?

Posted by: RonF at April 14, 2024 09:07 PM (c+mk0)

308 Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 09:01 PM (oBPoz)

Thanks for the reminder about the pending price increase at the end of the month.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 09:07 PM (yRXSd)

309 Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 09:01 PM (oBPoz)

Thanks for the reminder about the pending price increase at the end of the month.
Posted by: Ed L

Add my thanks as well.
I've been pricing 9mm; but, haven't been reading my email.
Shame on me.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 09:09 PM (vGIR7)

310 Wow, SiD that gun is purty! And, unlike the other kind of Highway Patrolman, you don't have to feed it donuts!

I'm glad it works for you.

Posted by: GWB at April 14, 2024 09:10 PM (1zxQh)

311 301
"... and many popular items will be ~~effected~~ very soon."

Affected

Posted by: Ciampino - one of my pet peeves at April 14, 2024 09:12 PM (qfLjt)

312 Wow, SiD that gun is purty! And, unlike the other kind of Highway Patrolman, you don't have to feed it donuts!

I'm glad it works for you.
Posted by: GWB
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Thank you! Its food is pretty expensive though...

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 09:12 PM (wQXfi)

313 Just checked Ammoseek for 9mm and the top two places with the best prices Rogers and Berelli are both companies I use. The price for Fiocci at $12.49/50 rds is the best price I have found.
Guess I need to order more.
I also bought a pair of electronic ear buds from Rogers this week. They shipped the day I ordered them. Ammo usually arrives in 48 hours.
Strange. My emails are almost all from gun places....

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 09:13 PM (t/2Uw)

314 "... and many popular items will be effected very soon."

Affected
Posted by: Ciampino - one of my pet peeves at April 14, 2024 09:12 PM (qfLjt)
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We score targets, not spelling.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 09:14 PM (RG6z4)

315 RI Red, at your convenience, drop me a line at the address in my nic. Thx.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 09:14 PM (/y8xj)

316 My emails are almost all from gun places....
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 09:13 PM (t/2Uw)

Hard to believe...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at April 14, 2024 09:15 PM (hOUT3)

317 Thank you! Its food is pretty expensive though...

Bwahahahaha. This is how people get sucked into yet another time and $$ consuming aspect of the hobby -- reloading.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 09:16 PM (/y8xj)

318 Machine-gun bicycles.

Of all the places I'd want to have a machine gun, "right up in my crotch" is not one of them.

Posted by: mikeski at April 14, 2024 09:17 PM (DgGvY)

319 OK, 9:18 thank you time!

Thank you all for being here and participating!

Hope to see you again next Sunday!!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 09:19 PM (RG6z4)

320 Thanks, Weasel and Horde.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 09:20 PM (/y8xj)

321 Thanks Weasel. See you next Sunday!

Posted by: Grateful at April 14, 2024 09:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

322 Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 09:19 PM (RG6z4)

Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 09:20 PM (yRXSd)

323 A minute late on the thank you comment. You all can have refunds.

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 09:20 PM (RG6z4)

324 323 A minute late on the thank you comment. You all can have refunds.
Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 09:20 PM (RG6z4)

Can that refund be used for the NoVAMoMe entry fee?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at April 14, 2024 09:24 PM (hOUT3)

325 Thank you for letting me show off my new (to me) gub. I was in & out earlier, so I missed responding to some comments but I'm so glad my purchase is deemed Hordeworthy.

I am disappoint that I will miss NoVa, but TX is about 6 months away, if I can hold out that long.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 14, 2024 09:25 PM (wQXfi)

326 Best thread of the week.
Thanks Weasel.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 09:25 PM (t/2Uw)

327 Each time I watch any type shooting demo, I'm reminded of Jerry Miculek and wonder how on earth could you survive a hostile encounter with the man. Have to wonder if he's as humble and unassuming in real life.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 14, 2024 09:25 PM (KATBx)

328 A minute late on the thank you comment. You all can have refunds.
Posted by: Weasel

A less-scrupulous Moron would have claimed it was a typo. You're a gentleman and a scholar.

Posted by: mikeski at April 14, 2024 09:25 PM (DgGvY)

329 A less-scrupulous Moron would have claimed it was a typo. You're a gentleman and a scholar.
Posted by: mikeski at April 14, 2024 09:25 PM

Weasel's typos are nearly always actually Commentator alertness quizzes or mid-terms.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 14, 2024 09:29 PM (a3Q+t)

330 Thanks Weasel and thanks to the awesome Horde Gub contributors. Hope y'all have a great week.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 14, 2024 09:29 PM (V8he0)

331 Bike looks....uncomfortable.

Posted by: Eromero at April 14, 2024 09:31 PM (NxC5+)

332 Posted by: mikeski at April 14, 2024 09:17 PM (DgGvY)

That setup for the Fiat-Revelli MG is almost certainly for moving it around, especially since the Fiat-Revelli is a water-cooled MG. It weighs in at 37 pounds w/o any water, so it's not like a single soldier could carry it like an M60. If you look closely at the picture, you can see the MG's tripod is integrated into the frame of the bike. Given that the Italians squared off against the Austro-Hungarians in the Tirolian Mountains and the Isonzo River, the most mountainous frontline in WWI, anything that increased heavy weapons mobility for the Italians would have been quite welcome.

Posted by: Ed L at April 14, 2024 09:31 PM (yRXSd)

333 327 Each time I watch any type shooting demo, I'm reminded of Jerry Miculek and wonder how on earth could you survive a hostile encounter with the man. Have to wonder if he's as humble and unassuming in real life.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 14, 2024 09:25 PM (KATBx)
He is.

Posted by: Eromero at April 14, 2024 09:32 PM (NxC5+)

334 Well, better get my thanks in before the gub thread closes shop for another week. Thanks as always to Weasel-san (note to self: work on fundamentals and buy more ammo). Thanks to the horde for the knowledge and giggles. I learned stuff (mostly to work on fundamentals and buy more ammo - also don't follow Italian soldiers riding bicycles). Cheers y'all!

Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 09:34 PM (IQ6Gq)

335 Nite TRex! Keep up the good work!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2024 09:38 PM (RG6z4)

336 I want tracer rounds for my 45. Can I has tracer rounds for my 45?

Posted by: GWB at April 14, 2024 09:51 PM (1zxQh)

337 @336 Of course you can get tracer , suggest Green for best visibility, but use care, IIRC the stuff is incendiary.

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