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NONE of the books listed above would classify as "great" literature in the traditional sense. However, they all gripped my imagination and inspired me in ways that I still don't quite understand. Each of them involves an otherwise ordinary person being called upon to do great things, sometimes against his will. But all of the heroes in the stories above are at their core "good" men in the traditional sense of the word. Some (e.g., Rand al-Thor, Repairman Jack) go on to become truly great men at the end of their story. Others (Harry Dresden, Agent Pendergast) are still in development as their stories have not yet ended. I eagerly wait for the conclusion and will devour those books in turn. BOOKS BY FRIENDS OF MORONSMORON RECOMMENDATIONS Comment: The simple definition of "heresy" is that it's a belief or opinion that is contrary to popular, mainstream, or orthodox views. I don't want to start a religious war this morning, so let's not go into the various heresies that apply to Christianity. However, "modernism" as a heresy that explicitly rejects even the *possibility* of the supernatural is something that could be discussed. To me, it seems that nihilism at its core is self-destructive. And we see that today with the behaviors and attitudes that lead to an increase of despair and hopelessness. A coroner buddy of mine said that he's seen a sharp increase in suicides recently. That does not bode well for society. Comment: I have to admit I am not at all a financial guru in any sense of the word. I can live within my means and have a couple of investments here and there, but I do not pretend to understand high finance in any meaningful way. I leave that to the professionals. However, it's undeniable that we, as a species, rely on some medium of trade for our commercial relationships with each other. Barter ain't gonna cut it once you get past a certain point of trade. The fallback default medium always seems to be precious metals (gold and silver). Though one science fiction book I read (Illegal Aliens by Nick Pollota and Phil Foglio) had a galactic currency based on thulium. Not sure if that would work in real life. Comment: Languages are always evolving and changing. However, the rise of mass communication has led to much greater standardization and transmission of languages--especially English and a few others that are default lingua franca used around the world. It will be interesting to see how many languages go extinct in the next few decades. Will we achieve a true universal language for all mankind? Will it be English? Chinese? Or some weird mixture of both? In know in the Firefly universe the dominant languages of humans fleeing Earth-That-Was were English and Chinese, which is why the characters in the show occasionally speak Chinese phrases (badly, from what I've read). Or will our languages devolve as civilization devolves? More Moron-recommended reading material can be found HERE! (1000+ Moron-recommended books!) WHAT I'VE BEEN READING THIS PAST WEEK: After reviewing some of OregonMuse's old Book Threads, I thought I'd try something a bit different. Instead of just listing WHAT I'm reading, I'll include commentary as well. Unless otherwise specified, you can interpret this as an implied recommendation, though as always your mileage may vary.![]() The Rise of Endymion by Dan Simmons This is the conclusion of Dan Simmons' epic space opera The Hyperion Cantos. Raul Endymion and Aenea must save humanity from itself so that it can grow again, joining the rest of the advanced civilizations in the universe that have ascended to a higher state of being in union with the true Ultimate Intellgence (i.e., God). Or something to that effect. It's actually a bit hard to follow exactly what's going on. We do get to see some epic battles when the Shrike faces opponents that can finally pose a challenge. Of course, the Shrike--being outside of time and space to some extent--does curb stomp one or two of them just to remind them that it's really the boss. Very good conclusion to the series that wraps up most of the loose ends and explains the origins, history, and diabolical plans of the human-created artificial intelligences that were operating behind the scenes this entire time. Highly recommended if you enjoy epic space opera. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Didn't do anything last week. I must remedy that this week.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 14, 2024 08:59 AM (0eaVi) 2
Tolle Lege
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2024 08:59 AM (fwDg9) 3
Almost finished Triumph Forsaken by Mark Moyar
Triumph Regained is next on Vietnam 1965-68 A very good book if you want to know why everything went just about wrong in Vietnam Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2024 09:01 AM (fwDg9) 4
hiya
Posted by: JT at April 14, 2024 09:03 AM (T4tVD) 5
Finish up those tax returns? I did that in January. I'd like to know just how badly I'm getting screwed as soon as possible.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 09:04 AM (5esVy) 6
For some reason, all I've felt like reading for the last couple of weeks (besides AoS threads) are Simenon novels.
Morning, gang. Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 14, 2024 09:06 AM (q3u5l) 7
"The Cloudspotter's Guide" by Gavin Pretor-Pinney.
Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:07 AM (5HQE5) 8
Primary reading last week was China's Small Arms of the 2nd Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) by Bin Shih.
It is very informative and essential reading for anyone even considering contemplating the mere possibility of maybe taking a tentative look at getting into and perhaps maybe collecting Chinese surplus from that era. The great weakness of the book is that the monochrome photography is very low resolution, and similar markings are hard to distinguish. He does use line drawings and I wish he did that for the receiver markings. Lots of vintage photos of Chinese Nationalist troops in full German kit (a bit jarring to modern eyes). Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:08 AM (llXky) 9
Perfessor Squirrel, isn't your email in this post somewhere? I cannot see it, even if it is right there in front of me. I have a book I'd like to talk to you about (not a book I wrote).
Posted by: TecumsehTea at April 14, 2024 09:09 AM (JrYM1) 10
Started Belloc's Heresies. See how far I get.
Posted by: Jamaica at April 14, 2024 09:09 AM (IG7T0) 11
The first two books of Peake's "Gormenghast" trilogy are brilliant, but by the third volume, Merv was losing it (syphilis?).
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 14, 2024 09:09 AM (3e3hy) 12
I read "The Sunlit Man" last week, straight through, couldn't put it down style. I'm not even a sci-fi fan anymore, but these secret project books were appealing. "Tress" was terrific. "The Frugal Wizard" was entertaining. "Yumi" was the only one I did not finish. It lost me early on. I might go back and try it again one day.
Posted by: huerfano at April 14, 2024 09:09 AM (VGOMa) 13
Perfessor Squirrel, isn't your email in this post somewhere? I cannot see it, even if it is right there in front of me. I have a book I'd like to talk to you about (not a book I wrote).
Posted by: TecumsehTea at April 14, 2024 09:09 AM (JrYM1) --- Yeah, but it's not "linked" in the conventional sense of the word. I do include the link in my nic, if that helps. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 14, 2024 09:10 AM (BpYfr) Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:10 AM (5HQE5) 15
working my way through the Shute corpus. Finished Round the Bend and started on Most Secret. One thing I like about Shute is his ability to tell other character's stories such that you sometimes miss who's doing the narrating. You have to pay attention.
Not much work on the other 5 or 6 books in progress. Posted by: yara at April 14, 2024 09:11 AM (jwDtS) 16
I read "The Sunlit Man" last week, straight through, couldn't put it down style. I'm not even a sci-fi fan anymore, but these secret project books were appealing. "Tress" was terrific. "The Frugal Wizard" was entertaining. "Yumi" was the only one I did not finish. It lost me early on. I might go back and try it again one day.
Posted by: huerfano at April 14, 2024 09:09 AM (VGOMa) ---- Stick with Yumi. There's a pretty neat twist once things start coming together and it has a satisfying Sandersonian ending. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 14, 2024 09:12 AM (BpYfr) 17
The simple definition of "heresy" is that it's a belief or opinion that is contrary to popular, mainstream, or orthodox views. I don't want to start a religious war this morning, ...
=== *takes breath* *opens mouth* *closes mouth* Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 14, 2024 09:12 AM (RIvkX) 18
I picked up Robert Kaplan's _Imperial Grunts_ during a used bookstore raid and just DEVOURED it during a trip last weekend. I heard of it when it came out, but I think I just dismissed it as yet another book about evil American imperialism blah blah.
In fact, my suspicion is that Kaplan set out to write just that, but along the way developed a serious crush on Army and Marine noncoms and junior officers, particularly Special Forces operators. His thesis, which I think is pretty valid, is that America is an imperial power nowadays, like it or not, and the American troops abroad -- especially the Special Forces teams in places you've never heard of -- are doing a pretty good job of keeping the peace. At least, in the Bush era. I'd love to hear from someone with more recent service experience: did Obama manage to get rid of the bits that worked well? Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:12 AM (78a2H) 19
Thanks for the Book Thread, Perfessor!
The week is not complete without reading for enjoyment. Appreciate the fellowship here and the sharing of knowledge and authors. Books are truly the repository for the wonders of our civilization. All that knowledge is captured for everyone who cracks a book and reads. What would we do without books? Posted by: Legally Sufficient at April 14, 2024 09:13 AM (U3L4U) 20
>>I don't want to start a religious war this morning
You will start a religious war this morning. Do it. Now. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:14 AM (5HQE5) 21
Book I could not finish: A comic, actually. The Secret Invasion miniseries. I was so bored with the lousy execution of what seemed to be a great concept -- Skrulls take the place of certain Marvel heroes -- that I chose not to buy the rest of the mini. Still don't know what happened, and I don't feel that I missed anything.
Book I had to finish: "The Detonators," a late entry in the Matt Helm series. Helm encounters a freelance terrorist contractor who's built a nuclear bomb. I snapped if off the supermarket shelf, took it home, and finished it around 3 a.m. Single men can do that sort of thing. Back to the remaining content. Posted by: Weak Geek at April 14, 2024 09:14 AM (p/isN) 22
Oh, Yay book thread!
A bit of an expansion on Belloc's The Great Heresies, particularly the Reformation. His point (which is inarguable) was that when people began to formulate alternatives to the traditional reading of scripture and religious practice (which included rejecting traditional authority), it unleashed a process of creative thought that spurred incredible advances in science and technology. This was one reason why the Protestant states quickly surpassed the Catholic ones (aka the "Protestant Work Ethic"). However, the spirit of free inquiry led to 19th Century German Theologians deconstructing the Bible, insisting the miracles didn't happen, the authorial attributions were wrong, it was riddled with errors and inconsistencies, and so forth. There is a direct line from this dismantling sacred scripture and modern deconstructionism. To put it another way, if your foundation is Sola Scriptura, what happens if you decide the scripture is malleable and prone to new interpretations? I'm not trying to reignite the Wars of Religion, just noting that Belloc is correct, and to put my own spin on it, you can't have Yard Sign Calvinists without Actual Calvinists. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:15 AM (llXky) 23
Just picking through various and sundry books this week. Brain is in monkey mode, can't seem to focus. Braudel's exhaustive and exhausting "The Structures of Everyday Life", Charles Lamb's essays, and ST: DS9 novel for fun.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 14, 2024 09:15 AM (3e3hy) 24
Have tried the Gormenghast trilogy a couple of times over the years but just can't seem to get more than a few chapters in. Read Tolkien in high school (the Ace paperbacks that showed up on the racks before the authorized Ballantines), but find myself unable to reread LotR now. Go figure.
Thinking about the bookshelves, my own and the library's, these days is like looking at a map of the world and making note of all the countries I'll never visit or revisit... Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 14, 2024 09:16 AM (q3u5l) 25
The first two books of Peake's "Gormenghast" trilogy are brilliant, but by the third volume, Merv was losing it (syphilis?).
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 14, 2024 09:09 AM (3e3hy) Merv Griffin ? Posted by: JT at April 14, 2024 09:17 AM (T4tVD) 26
I had a different reaction to Assassin's Apprentice. the first book is relatively benign; the second book was a further exploration of his dilemma's, personal and otherwise; the third book, the first time I read it was a big letdown. the second time through it made a lot more sense. All in all, I liked the series, but I only go back to re-read the first one.
Posted by: yara at April 14, 2024 09:17 AM (jwDtS) 27
Thanks for running the picture, Perfessor! I had fun, building that kit!
I'm away later this morning, with a tub of books, for a place at the Folkfest in New Braunfels, at the Heritage Village on Church Street. If any 'Rons and Ronettes are in the area, I'm set up in front of the Museum of Handmade Furniture. Next to the Camel Corps... Posted by: Sgt. Mom at April 14, 2024 09:17 AM (xnmPy) 28
Yes, JT, that's why he needed co-hosts. Sad.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 14, 2024 09:17 AM (3e3hy) 29
I'd love to hear from someone with more recent service experience: did Obama manage to get rid of the bits that worked well?
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:12 AM (78a2H) --- Yes. Trump put a tourniquet on it and stopped the bleeding. Biden ripped it off and stomped on the open wound. No president in American history has damaged the US military so badly. The active army has lost 10 percent of its strength in merely 2 years. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:18 AM (llXky) 30
"Kingdom of the Wicked" by Anthony Burgess is on the nightstand. Heading back to NoVA next week for work, accompanied by the paperback "Graham Greene: Collected Short Stories."
Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:19 AM (5HQE5) 31
A while back, a famous painting was highlighted on a morning art thread entitled The Wreck of the Medusa. The story of this tragedy is recounted by Jonathan Miles in his book of the same name. On July 2, 1816, the Medusa, sailing along the west coast of Africa under the command of royalist and incompetent captain Chaumareys struck a reef and foundered. The captain and his crew jumped into the lifeboats, and left the passengers in a hastily built raft. Those in the lifeboats eventually made shore, but were faced with navigating the Sahara with no food or water in order to find civilization. Those on the raft were in an even worse situation. With no means of control and no supplies, drifting, madness and death soon followed. Of the nearly 150 people abandoned on the raft, only 15 were alive 13 days later when the vessel Argus came to their rescue. The wreck was a huge story that shook France to the core, and was as infamous as the story of the Titanic would be a century later. Miles covers not only the tragedy, but also the repercussions, the investigation of the cowardice of the crew, and details how the tragedy inspired artist Theodore Gericault to capture the horror on canvas.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 09:19 AM (5esVy) 32
Good Sunday morning, horde!
My only reading this week has been The Year of the Locust, by Terry Hayes. Hoo, boy. I was so looking forward to it, so I read it even with the many warnings I've seen here and on Goodreads. It's a good spy novel for 3/4 of the book, but then it takes a hard turn to sci fi. Should have been two different books, and that is all I have to say about it. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 09:20 AM (OX9vb) 33
I need to remember that the Garrett books by Glen Cook are noir gumshoe as well as fantasy. "Bitter Gold Hearts" takes a dark turn near the end. When I go to the next book in the series ... forewarned is forearmed.
*********** I'm well into "The Sooner Spy," a book in the One-Eyed Mack series by the late Jim Lehrer of PBS. Mack is the lieutenant governor of Oklahoma. In an effort to help a constituent who wants to join the CIA -- this was written when I thought they were the good guys -- Mack learns of a Soviet defector who's resettled in the state. But it seems that hostile agents have found the guy, too. Lehrer drops Oklahoma town names like seed -- with one exception: Adabel, which doesn't exist. There are Ada and Idabel, and it looks as if Lehrer fused the two. It's his fault, even if an editor made the error; Lehrer should have kept closer eyes on his book. Posted by: Weak Geek at April 14, 2024 09:20 AM (p/isN) 34
Longest book I've ever read, in one sitting.
"Sum Of All Fears", by Clancy. Fresh off of an Oct. '98 motorcycle wreck, with five brand new screws in my left ankle, where else would I have been, other than deep in my recliner? More than twelve hours of reading though, to be sure. Don't ask about the bathroom breaks. The lack of help in "getting there and back", were direct lead-ins to the '99 divorce. Previously, an overnight read-through of Crighton's "Jurrasic Park" (long before it was a movie), made for a hellacious endurance test at the Regional Meeting at the Marriott, the next morning. Such is a book that you really couldn't put down. Now then. Gotta go play in traffic! Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at April 14, 2024 09:21 AM (e6UQI) 35
Also read _Fantastic Creatures of the Mountains and Seas_ by Jiankun Sun, translated by Howard Goldblatt, with illustrations by Siyu Chen.
This is really an art book -- pictures by Siyu Chen inspired by Jiankun Sun's selections of creatures from one of the Chinese ancient classic texts, Mountains and Seas. I had to figure a lot of this out by myself with help from Wikipedia because the translator's introduction is incredibly useless. He assumes the reader knows all this stuff already. The pictures are lovely -- pen drawings, or maybe brush drawings; not sure. The text is whimsical and entertaining, and the creatures are of course batshit crazy. Throw some of these into your next D&D game. Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:22 AM (78a2H) 36
I buy it , I read it.
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2024 09:22 AM (fwDg9) 37
Finish up those tax returns? I did that in January. I'd like to know just how badly I'm getting screwed as soon as possible.
Posted by: Thomas Paine Surprised I got a large chunk of change back from Uncle Sam this year. I read "Elantris" several years ago. Really enjoyed it. Our local Barnes and Noble closed last week. Their 20 year lease was up and the landlord had already made a deal with some boutique gym to take over the space. To say the community was a bit upset is an understatement. It was a really nice store. No overt wokeness on display. Well run and well stocked. B&N says they will look for another location in the area. We'll see if that happens. They did donate all their unsold merchandise to our local library which I thought was awfully nice. My DIL, who works at the library, sent me pictures of all the swag. Dozens and dozens of boxes. They were thrilled. So I guess there was one good thing to come out of the closing. Posted by: Tuna at April 14, 2024 09:22 AM (oaGWv) 38
"The Red Hourglass: Lives of the Predators" by Gordon Grice is superb nature writing.
Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:24 AM (5HQE5) 39
Yes i made that point if locusts had not gone into morlock territory it would be a little overstuffed
Ive tried snowcrash a couple of times much as with fall the supposed successor to cryptonomicon Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 09:26 AM (PXvVL) 40
Books on the TBR pile - these were all gifts from the kids but I just haven't gotten to them yet.
Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson and a couple by David McCullough - The Pioneers, The Great Bridge, etc. One I'd really like to open is Brian Kilmeade's George Washington's Secret Six. Posted by: Tonypete at April 14, 2024 09:26 AM (WXNFJ) 41
Longest book I've ever read, in one sitting.
"Sum Of All Fears", by Clancy. Posted by: Jim at April 14, 2024 09:21 AM (e6UQI) --- I think my last Clancy book was Clear and Present Danger. By that point I was old enough to have become sensitive to writing style and the weaknesses in Clancy's character development were becoming apparent. I was also finding the inexorable rise of Jack Ryan tedious. In short: the techno-thriller had lost its thrill. His earlier work was exciting for its time, and while The Hunt for Red October doesn't not hold up well, the story was gripping enough to make you forget it. That's not nothing. He's also a brand rather than an author. I hope his family's getting paid for all the stuff with his name on it. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:27 AM (llXky) 42
Good morning horde and thanks for another great book thread. Unfortunately, all my reading in the past week has been white papers and other thinking on GenAI. With so much noise to signal lately, I needed to get a lot smarter. Still in process but working to impose order on my mental chaos but making progress. Still deciding whether this qualifies as fiction or non-fiction...
Posted by: TRex at April 14, 2024 09:27 AM (IQ6Gq) 43
Gormeng hats by Mervyn Peake are the apex of gentlemen's fashion. Each Gormeng Hat is constructed of !00% Pure Venezuelan Beaver Fur with a Pure Moldavian Silk Hat band. Each Gormeng Hat is designed to inspire admiration from the Ladies and jealousy from Gentlemen onlookers. Buy Gormeng Hats. Those in the know will know! Posted by: naturalfake at April 14, 2024 09:27 AM (eDfFs) 44
Book I couldn't finish: "The Satanic Verses". IMHO, putting a FATWA on this thing was the literary equivalent of the Streisand Effect.
Posted by: Toad-0 at April 14, 2024 09:28 AM (cct0t) 45
Morning.
I started, added to the current reading stack, JJ's 100 days. I'm about 17 pages into it and mad as hell. So far it's a view from the East coast of the 2020 election ballot counting BS. I watched it from the West coast. I'n honestly not sure I can finish this one. I can't get my blood boiling like that before bed. Posted by: Reforger at April 14, 2024 09:28 AM (B705c) 46
We are net tax payers, roughly 6k out and 2.5k back.
I read WOT books as fast as I could. But, once they all split up in the Waste, it became a slog. QPL has had every book mentioned on this thread except for Camp of The Saints. Posted by: Jamaica at April 14, 2024 09:28 AM (IG7T0) 47
I suspect (but cannot prove) that the Pants Guy doesn't own a weedwhacker.
Posted by: JT at April 14, 2024 09:29 AM (T4tVD) 48
Locusts was kind of a technothriller in how kane tracks the protagonist back in to the badlands of western pakistan
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 09:29 AM (PXvVL) Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 09:29 AM (q2svT) 50
He's also a brand rather than an author. I hope his family's getting paid for all the stuff with his name on it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd I'm seeing a lot of that lately, where the dead or retired author's name is prominent, and the actual author's name, be it child or someone else, is in small letters. I have to assume it is a marketing thing, where the big name is given shelf space due to the name. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 09:32 AM (5esVy) 51
Book I couldn't finish: "The Satanic Verses". IMHO, putting a FATWA on this thing was the literary equivalent of the Streisand Effect.
Posted by: Toad-0 I believe I read somewhere that Rushdie has a new book coming out about the knife attack he suffered as a result. Posted by: Tuna at April 14, 2024 09:32 AM (oaGWv) 52
There is a short story extension to the Hyperion Cantos called "Orphans of the Helix".
Quite enjoyable, with a surprise happy ending. I strongly endorse the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons. All four books are strong space opera with memorable scenes and good writing. I do remember one clunker of a page, fortunately rare. It involved spaceship operation reflexes the space pilot uses inherited from his space pilot ancestors. No. Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 09:32 AM (u82oZ) 53
I'n honestly not sure I can finish this one. I can't get my blood boiling like that before bed.
Posted by: Reforger at April 14, 2024 09:28 AM (B705c) --- That's why I have blotted all that out and walled myself off from the fake news. I can't help it, can't change it, so I'm focusing on the family, my parish and my community, in that order. Life's too short to be angry. I find great satisfaction in doing a deep dive in how Chinese Nationalist weapons got here in such quantities. The defaced ones with markings on the stocks were captured by Chinese Red Army and sent to Korea with the "volunteers" and then brought home as trophies. But the ones without the marks...near as I can figure, bringbacks from US troops in China during the war and after. Not a lot of info out there. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:34 AM (llXky) 54
Andromeda Strain was jr HS level. I doubt I would read another. I thought about Climate of Fear but from what I read of it, there is no thermodynamics or quantum mechanics involved. That is all the science you need to see through the CO2 bs.
Posted by: Jamaica at April 14, 2024 09:34 AM (IG7T0) 55
Assassin's Apprentice took me about 3 tries to get through the first time. I ended up enjoying the series, but the main character's self deprecation got old after awhile. I liked Robin Hobb's Rain Wild series better.
Posted by: Quirky bookworm at April 14, 2024 09:35 AM (rKyZg) 56
I'm seeing a lot of that lately, where the dead or retired author's name is prominent, and the actual author's name, be it child or someone else, is in small letters. I have to assume it is a marketing thing, where the big name is given shelf space due to the name.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 09:32 AM (5esVy) --- Frank Herbert immediately comes to mind, as does the Shaara family "Based on the Best-Selling The Killer Angels!" cash grab. The Killer Angels is a great book, but it was a one-off about a specific time and place. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:35 AM (llXky) 57
All the talk about the "Big Sleep" here yesterday got me started on old bookshelf sitter "Farewell, My Lovely" last night. Posted by: Auspex at April 14, 2024 09:36 AM (j4U/Z) 58
Clearly your library’s small
I can hardly read it at all The best I can hope is the small microscope which won’t arrive until fall. Posted by: Eromero at April 14, 2024 09:36 AM (NxC5+) 59
Oh, KTE is looking for fantasy or sf books that are low-stakes, slice of life type that will let her escape happily without exacerbating her anxiety.
She did enjoy Tress a lot, and picked up an old Sanderson I've never read - Rithmatist. I've got to see if I can dig out my old copy of Sorcery & Cecelia (aka the Enchanted Chocolate Pot) by Wrede & Stervermer So if you have recs, let me know. Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 09:37 AM (q2svT) 60
God and family. America is an idea, not a place. Time to move on.
Posted by: Jamaica at April 14, 2024 09:38 AM (IG7T0) 61
If memory serves, Harlan Ellison had left instructions to destroy his unfinished stories so that nobody else would come along and "finish" them after he was gone.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 14, 2024 09:38 AM (q3u5l) 62
Two books I've never finished: "War and Peace" and "The Tale of Genji". Good lord I've tried but I get about 3/4 through and then quit.
Posted by: Tuna at April 14, 2024 09:39 AM (oaGWv) 63
All the talk about the "Big Sleep" here yesterday got me started on old bookshelf sitter "Farewell, My Lovely" last night.
Posted by: Auspex at April 14, 2024 09:36 AM (j4U/Z) --- The film version of The Big Sleep is a great example of how you can have a movie with a completely incoherent plot that is still fun to watch. I've tried many times to follow it and why what happened happened, but it's mostly just Bogart and Bacall doing their think. Also: hot bookstore chick who is good to go with that bottle of rye you have in your pocket. If only! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:39 AM (llXky) 64
PS I do believe we got Kid the Younger one those Rolife kits for her bday last year. But I can't recall.which right now.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 09:39 AM (q2svT) 65
A book has to be godawful before I abandon it.
The first book of the continuation of Asimov's Foundation series "Foundation's Fear" by Gregory Benford was the only book I remember meeting my admittedly low criteria for tossing a book before finishing. Posted by: McLurkerson at April 14, 2024 09:39 AM (wNDOJ) 66
48 Locusts was kind of a technothriller in how kane tracks the protagonist back in to the badlands of western pakistan
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 09:29 AM (PXvVL) Yes, that part was great! Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 09:39 AM (OX9vb) 67
I think there needs to be a constitutional amendment, or maybe a Supreme Court decision, about what taxes states can impose on people outside that state. It's maddeningly inconsistent.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:39 AM (78a2H) 68
I do include the link in my nic, if that helps. Ahhh, that works. Why didn't I think to look there? I thought I remembered seeing it spelled out, at some point. Thank you. Posted by: TecumsehTea at April 14, 2024 09:40 AM (JrYM1) 69
That's why I have blotted all that out and walled myself off from the fake news. I can't help it, can't change it, so I'm focusing on the family, my parish and my community, in that order.
Life's too short to be angry.. . . Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd Amen Brother! Posted by: Tonypete at April 14, 2024 09:40 AM (WXNFJ) Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2024 09:40 AM (fwDg9) 71
I enjoyed "Elantris" even if the name sounds like something you see on an ad for old people medication. He's correct in his assessment that the story does start out depressing and the magic system doesn't get explained until later. It's Sanderson. I'll forgive most anything.
For a fun light read, I whole-heartedly recommend the "Scattered, Smothered, Spellbound" trilogy from Kelly Grayson (AKA Ambulance Driver). The quick summary: You know how certain clients at a Waffle House don't look normal? They aren't. Posted by: NR Pax at April 14, 2024 09:40 AM (x0K/Y) 72
"The Little Engine That Could" is implausible and, worse, irresponsible: teaching children that a very small locomotive can pull a long train over a steep hill undermines their critical faculties when they're later enrolled in physics classes.
Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:42 AM (5HQE5) 73
Books I quit reading:
The Bloodlands (too depressing) Ulysses (tiresomely clever) That Hideous Strength (enough with the extended allegory) Battle for Spain (packed with lies and propaganda) Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:42 AM (llXky) 74
That's why I have blotted all that out and walled myself off from the fake news. I can't help it, can't change it, so I'm focusing on the family, my parish and my community, in that order.
Life's too short to be angry.. . . Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd I'm trying, but it is hard some days. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 14, 2024 09:42 AM (R4t5M) 75
The Farseer books are pretty grim, but I read and loved all of those. I think because I cared so much about the main character.
But I couldn't finish Hobb's other series - the Wild River (?) ones. Didn't care about any of the characters. Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 09:43 AM (q2svT) 76
>>a completely incoherent plot that is still fun to watch
Tv show "Daniel Boone," episode "The Grand Alliance" (1969) Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:44 AM (5HQE5) Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:45 AM (5HQE5) 78
Can one read The Sunlit Man without being spoiled for other Cosmere books?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 09:46 AM (q2svT) 79
I'm trying, but it is hard some days.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 14, 2024 09:42 AM (R4t5M) --- There's definitely a push-pull thing going on. I get curious, something breaches my indifference, I start digging and then my RUN AWAY reflex kicks in. On the one hand, wokeness and madness are everywhere, and it's hard to find a refuge. On the other, classic books (and movies) ARE a great refuge and there is effectively a limitless supply of both. Plus, with good weather, outdoor activity is a thing. Lots of work to do around the yard and on the house. Much better than grinding my teeth while watching a flickering screen. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:46 AM (llXky) 80
It's rare that I don't finish a book that I start. I'll always give a novel 50-100 pages before I quit. and usually, the author has given me a chance to see what he/she is doing by page 50-100 or simply interest me. Also, I tend to know what I'll like. Most of the books I haven't finished have already shown up: "Gormenghast" - I might give that another go as I was a wee tad and had just finished read LoTR and was looking for something similar. This was not that. "The Satanic Verses" - man, did i feel all freedom-loving and virtuous in a literary fashion buying that one to read. Take that, mullahs!!! jUnfortunately, Rushdie's motto was take that, readers! The Simarillion - like reading a cookbook recipe for a cake instead of eating a cake. Some Tom Clancy book - too much uninteresting technical gobbledygook. I'm sure there's one or two more. But, have forgotten them. Posted by: naturalfake at April 14, 2024 09:46 AM (eDfFs) 81
The Key Trilogy (Key of Light, Key of Knowledge, and Key of Valor) by Nora Roberts is the story of three Celtic demigoddesses imprisoned in a glass box by an evil god and a quest by three mortals to find the keys that will release the locks. The evil spell that sent the innocents to their prison specifies that only mortals can find the hidden keys, the search is limited to the length of one phase of the moon, and only mortal hands may turn those keys to unlock the box. Three young ladies agree to the quest, driven by morals, empathy, and a sense of justice. Each lady has a convoluted clue to lead her to the key, and the limited assistance of two gods who serve as caretakers of the prisoners. The story is gripping, characters are richly developed and there are twists and turns along the way. An enjoyable read, a worthy quest, a compelling tale, and unforgettable characters.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at April 14, 2024 09:46 AM (U3L4U) 82
Currently reading The German Invasion of Norway, April 1940 by Geirr H Haarr. This is a comprehensive telling of the naval action.
Right now I am seeing how poor leadership in the top of government (lack of coordination, blinkered planning, and slow execution of needed action) led to Norway falling to the Nazis. The good that came out of the Norway invasion was the German Navy was wrecked. This helped save Britain from invasion later in the same year. Looking forward to the HMS Glowworm (H92) story. How did the destroyer get close enough to the German CA Admiral Hipper to ram it? I know the CO of the Glowworm got the Victoria Cross based on the recommendation of the Admiral Hipper's CO. Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 09:46 AM (u82oZ) 83
The Little Engine That Could" is implausible and, worse, irresponsible: teaching children that a very small locomotive can pull a long train over a steep hill undermines their critical faculties when they're later enrolled in physics classes.
Posted by: ZOD LOL. One my son's favorites when he was little. Posted by: Tuna at April 14, 2024 09:47 AM (oaGWv) 84
I only recently discovered that _The Death of Stalin_ (great movie) began as a graphic novel. A friend lent us a copy but I haven't opened the cover yet. I'm pretty sure I'm going to hear all of Zhukov's dialog in Jason Isaacs's voice.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:47 AM (78a2H) 85
"The Little Engine That Could" is implausible and, worse, irresponsible: teaching children that a very small locomotive can pull a long train over a steep hill undermines their critical faculties when they're later enrolled in physics classes.
Posted by: ZOD Whereas the Curious George series promotes irresponsibility and lack of consequences for poor behavior by George. The Man in the Yellow Hat always comes and saves his sorry monkey ass. There are many parallels to today's environment people! Posted by: Tonypete at April 14, 2024 09:47 AM (WXNFJ) 86
Very eager to read , in my grubby hands, Leigh Bardugo's new release (not YA) - The Familiar
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 09:47 AM (q2svT) 87
"Elantris" sounds like a kind of Toyota.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:48 AM (78a2H) 88
It's not for everyone.
Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:45 AM (5HQE5) --- I was pleased to find that my father and I are of the same opinion on it. We disagree about many things, but on that, we found perfect agreement. I stole a few of his Nabokov books, but I'm hesitant to get into them because I want to take a break after reading St. Augustine, Belloc, etc. My brain would like some lighter fare, maybe a re-read of Waugh. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:48 AM (llXky) 89
Ulysses (tiresomely clever)
It's not for everyone. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:45 AM (5HQE5) I read Ulysses. It was okay. But, I couldn't finish "Finnegan's Wake" Sort of a malicious novel...like being diddled by your wicked Uncle Ernie. Joyce was fiddling about for his own pleasure exclusively. Posted by: naturalfake at April 14, 2024 09:48 AM (eDfFs) 90
The only book I have been unable to finish reading was In Cold Blood by Truman Capote. After 100 pages, I just couldn't take it anymore.
A high school English teacher dared me to read Portnoy's Complaint, thinking I would not be able to finish it. Dare accepted, and the teacher was wrong. I finished the book, even though it was not an enjoyable read. Posted by: Legally Sufficient at April 14, 2024 09:48 AM (U3L4U) 91
I only recently discovered that _The Death of Stalin_ (great movie) began as a graphic novel. A friend lent us a copy but I haven't opened the cover yet. I'm pretty sure I'm going to hear all of Zhukov's dialog in Jason Isaacs's voice.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:47 AM (78a2H) --- My youngest daughter's favorite movie. "Choose your dates, boys!" Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:49 AM (llXky) 92
Can one read The Sunlit Man without being spoiled for other Cosmere books?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 09:46 AM (q2svT) --- Yes, as it's only tangentially related to events in the greater Cosmere. Roshar (Stormlight Archive) and Scadrial (Mistborn) are mentioned a few times, but that's as far as it goes. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 14, 2024 09:49 AM (BpYfr) 93
Curious George is an APE, not a MONKEY! Even the goddamned BOOKS get it wrong! He doesn't have a f*****g TAIL so he's an APE! What's WRONG with the world?!
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:50 AM (78a2H) 94
I'd like to second Sgt. Mom's suggestion to visit the Folkfest in New Braunfels if you are in the area. We went a couple of years ago and loved it. They have a lot of demonstrations of traditional trades and crafts and some of them even let you try them. I got to try one of the tools at the cooperage. Very cool.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at April 14, 2024 09:50 AM (FEVMW) Posted by: Tuna at April 14, 2024 09:51 AM (oaGWv) 96
They have a lot of demonstrations of traditional trades and crafts and some of them even let you try them. I got to try one of the tools at the cooperage. Very cool.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey Sounds like a barrel of fun! Posted by: Tonypete at April 14, 2024 09:51 AM (WXNFJ) Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 09:51 AM (q2svT) 98
Curious George is an APE, not a MONKEY! Even the goddamned BOOKS get it wrong! He doesn't have a f*****g TAIL so he's an APE! What's WRONG with the world?!
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:50 AM (78a2H) --- "Oook!" Posted by: The Librarian at April 14, 2024 09:52 AM (BpYfr) 99
>>Sort of a malicious novel...like being diddled by your wicked Uncle Ernie. Joyce was fiddling about for his own pleasure exclusively. Posted by: naturalfake at April 14, 2024 09:48 AM (eDfFs)
Huh. De gustibus non est, etc. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:52 AM (5HQE5) 100
On the topic of books I could not finish:
"King Rat" by James Clavell. The characters sucked and I was quietly hopeful that the Japanese would commit war crimes on them at some point. I gave up before chapter 10 and returned the book to the library. Posted by: NR Pax at April 14, 2024 09:52 AM (x0K/Y) 101
I managed to slog, grimly, through Joyce's Ulysses, but I began to get very cross with Mr. Joyce by the end of it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 09:53 AM (78a2H) 102
I've kinda liked what I've read of Philip Roth, but I've never been able to read Portnoy's Complaint. Couldn't stay interested in it at all.
Ditto Rushdie. Any Rushdie. Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 14, 2024 09:53 AM (q3u5l) 103
I must be nuts to drop this here and have to run (major family business all day today), but hey - in for a penny, in for a pound:
On the subject of heresies, I conceived an insight yesterday - at least I think it's an insight - that the "independent Palestinian state" is the modern version of the Tower of Babel. In keeping with the traditional commentaries, said Tower was being built to protect / free its builders from the power of G-d and affirm their own greatness and control of their destiny. Today, the masters of the nations have agreed that supplanting Israel and erecting "Palestine" in its place will prove that there is no power greater than theirs, and that the world obeys their will and no One else's. Am I crazy, or is this a useful analogy? Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at April 14, 2024 09:53 AM (SPNTN) 104
The Throne of Tiffany, Part IV of The Stripper Wars.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 14, 2024 09:53 AM (vtyCZ) 105
The defaced ones with markings on the stocks were captured by Chinese Red Army and sent to Korea with the "volunteers" and then brought home as trophies. But the ones without the marks...near as I can figure, bringbacks from US troops in China during the war and after. Not a lot of info out there.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:34 AM (llXky) I can honestly say I'm a life long news junkie. I wish I could not pay attention or even better just stand for nothing. It's not in me though. That being said I'm pretty sure I know where one on the missing "Legacy" Katanas from WW2 is located. It seems that trophy hunting was quite popular with the WW2 generation. At the VFW in Gabbs NV was (it's in the museum in Hawthorne now) a 2" Japaneese Howitzer. How that thing got there is a mystery to me. Little too big to slip into a ruck sack. I'd say there is probably a pretty good book in the subject but there are very few left with any firsthand knowlege. A few years ago here in my little town a WW2 vet passed away and they found a box of German stick grenades in an shed. I'd swear there were two when we, being shithead kids, broke into it many years before. Posted by: Reforger at April 14, 2024 09:54 AM (B705c) 106
I'm continuing, with many breaks for hobby related books, with Wind in the Willows. It's taking longer than usual because I take so much time over the Shepard illustrations and I'm hearing the words in my head as if I were reading it aloud to a child. Grahame's writing is so full of joy and discovery. Hearing the words that way reinforces those qualities and brings back, at least to me, those pleasures.
I have two other books by Grahame which precede WITW in the TBR pile: Dream Days and The Golden Age. I need to get to those. Posted by: JTB at April 14, 2024 09:54 AM (zudum) 107
I was wracking my brain trying to think of a book that I abandoned, and naturalfake comes to my rescue. Finnegan's Wake was not only cast aside, but placed in the trash so as not to claim another unsuspecting victim.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 09:55 AM (5esVy) 108
>>96 They have a lot of demonstrations of traditional trades and crafts and Indian means of torture and some of them even let you try them. Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey
"Okay. So, first you stake the scared, innocent rancher to the hot desert floor, spreadeagled--but be sure it's near a fire-ant hill, or no bueno. Then you pour the honey all over him, and go up to a hillside to watch. It's only really fun if it's a blazing hot day." Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:55 AM (5HQE5) 109
The new Shogun series is quite good. I read the book long ago and remember it as a good page turner.
Author James Clavell was first introduced to Japanese culture as a POW. Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 09:55 AM (Gse2f) 110
It's been a while but I remember my children reading Curious George and the cover had hi. Hanging from a tree by his tail. And I think that's hiw he caused trouble, by swinging on his tail.
Posted by: Megthered at April 14, 2024 09:55 AM (BolxK) 111
>>Finnegan's Wake was not only cast aside, but placed in the trash so as not to claim another unsuspecting victim. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 09:55 AM (5esVy)
Sorry to hear that, victim. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:56 AM (5HQE5) 112
I guess enough time has passed that I must once more advise people not to read anything by Antony Beevor. Yes, he's a best-selling author and all that, but his book on the Spanish Civil War was utter trash.
In order to force through his narrative he has to resurrect debunked lies about Guernica, deliberately omit contradictory information regarding election irregularities and the complete abuse of power by the Popular Front government, and top it all off with a bizarre and transparently bigoted take on why the Catholic Church was the worst thing ever and deserved to have all its clergy killed. This twit literally wrote that the Spanish Civil War was caused by the scars of the Spanish Inquisition. Totally ignores the collapse of the Empire, Napoleon's intervention, the Carlist Wars, the rise of Anarchism - I guess that's too much work. So he just blames the Papists. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:57 AM (llXky) Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 09:57 AM (u82oZ) 114
Since I see Ulysses being mentioned:
A few years back, the Washington Post ran a story about a young lady visiting her family in WV during a break from college. Every other fucking paragraph had to remind us that she was reading Ulysses around these unwashed masses. Posted by: NR Pax at April 14, 2024 09:57 AM (x0K/Y) 115
"Okay. So, first you stake the scared, innocent rancher to the hot desert floor, spreadeagled--but be sure it's near a fire-ant hill, or no bueno. Then you pour the honey all over him, and go up to a hillside to watch. It's only really fun if it's a blazing hot day."
Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:55 AM (5HQE5) Eventually, the screaming stops. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 14, 2024 09:57 AM (R4t5M) 116
"Yard Sign Calvinist." I'm stealing that one. Thank you, Mr. Lloyd.
Books I couldn't finish: 1. Ulysses. It was like working a very complicated acrostic puzzle. I got about halfway through, then said to myself, "Why am I doing this?", shut the book and never went back. 2. Everything Is Illuminated, by Jonathan Safran Foer. It was sent to me by a friend so I had to at least take a crack at it. It has two POVs, Jonathan Safran Foer, or his fictional alter ego, and a Russian named Alexei. The Alexei chapters are hilarious; the Jonathan ones are boring and incoherent, so I abandoned it without remorse. Did someone actually read part of Finnegan's Wake? I couldn't even get out of the first sentence. Posted by: Annalucia at April 14, 2024 09:58 AM (S6ArX) 117
>>110 It's been a while but I remember my children reading Curious George and the cover had hi. Hanging from a tree by his tail. And I think that's hiw he caused trouble, by swinging on his tail.
Posted by: Megthered at April 14, 2024 09:55 AM (BolxK) "...that's how th' pig got a curly tail!" Uncle Remus, "Song of the South" Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 09:59 AM (5HQE5) 118
I was wracking my brain trying to think of a book that I abandoned, and naturalfake comes to my rescue. Finnegan's Wake was not only cast aside, but placed in the trash so as not to claim another unsuspecting victim.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 09:55 AM (5esVy) --- I have on many occasions considered riddling Battle for Spain with bullets from a 1939 production Astra 400, but I've decided to keep the book solely for the purpose of pulling examples out of it that discredit the author. Who needs to be discredited. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:59 AM (llXky) 119
I dimly recall an essay (Joseph Epstein?) where the essayist said he was keeping a copy of Finnegans Wake after culling his shelves because you should always have a book that you know you'll never actually get around to reading.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 14, 2024 10:00 AM (q3u5l) Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:00 AM (5HQE5) 121
Too nice to be indoors. L8R l337s!
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Death of Stalin is one of my favorites of the last decade.
So true, it's laugh out loud funny! Buscemi's Khruschev steals the show, until Jason Isaacs's Zhukov steals it back. Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:02 AM (Gse2f) 124
"King Rat" by James Clavell. The characters sucked and I was quietly hopeful that the Japanese would commit war crimes on them at some point. I gave up before chapter 10 and returned the book to the library.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 14, 2024 09:52 AM (x0K/Y) --- So this is another candidate for the "movie is better than book" collection. Because the movie is pretty good. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:02 AM (llXky) 125
Eventually the screaming rancher becomes boring and incoherent.
At that time it's fine to abandon him without remorse. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:02 AM (5HQE5) Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2024 10:03 AM (u82oZ) 127
Just checked the cover of the original Curious George, illustrated by H.A. Rey his own bad self. No tail.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 10:03 AM (78a2H) 128
Ignoramus, I've read the original "Death of Stalin" comic book; it's about as funny as tertiary syphilis. I marvel that the screenwriters were actually able to make it funny.
Posted by: Annalucia at April 14, 2024 10:03 AM (S6ArX) 129
Went to the Nashville Predators game last night. The arena is right there on Broadway where all the bars and honky tonks are. I've never seen such a mass gathering of folks intent on enjoying themselves before. I found myself making up stories about some of people I passed by based on their outfits and the way they carried themselves. I'd love to pull up a chair on the sidewalk and just people watch all night. If I was a talented writer what a collection of short stories it would make.
Posted by: Tuna at April 14, 2024 10:04 AM (oaGWv) 130
Couldn't finish Dan Simmons's Carrion Comfort. I was really enjoying it, it was right up my alley. Then he killed off a main character, and I just couldn't keep going. I understand that sometimes main characters have to die, and that's okay. But this time it was just so jarring, and I was so emotionally invested in that character that I just couldn't enjoy it after that. Kate Winslet's Boobs tried to convince me to pick it back up, but there was just no way.
Posted by: She Hobbit at April 14, 2024 10:04 AM (ftFVW) 131
90 The only book I have been unable to finish reading was In Cold Blood by Truman Capote. After 100 pages, I just couldn't take it anymore.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at April 14, 2024 09:48 AM (U3L4U) I've started and abandoned that at least twice. Which is weird, because I usually devour the true crime stuff. Just could not get interested in this one. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:04 AM (OX9vb) 132
Well, off to take down the storm windows from the porch!
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 14, 2024 10:05 AM (78a2H) 133
I don't keep a list of books I couldn't finish but if I did it would be getting longer all the time. Current best sellers would top the list as many of today's popular books just plain suck due to bad writing, shallow characterization, and topics that are so urban-based they turn me off. (I'm not a fan of cities.) Then there are the 'classics' that I've heard about all my reading life. Russian authors come to mind.
The list would be even longer if I hadn't learned to avoid most politics and current events books all together. Not worth getting started which save time and money. Posted by: JTB at April 14, 2024 10:06 AM (zudum) Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 10:06 AM (5esVy) 135
Today, the masters of the nations have agreed that supplanting Israel and erecting "Palestine" in its place will prove that there is no power greater than theirs, and that the world obeys their will and no One else's. Am I crazy, or is this a useful analogy?
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at April 14, 2024 09:53 AM (SPNTN) --- It's a lot of things, and I'd say the bulk of it comes down to low-grade distraction politics. The Arab world is in relative decline, so Israel is a convenient scapegoat. Add to that the religious aspect, and you've got problems. The telling thing is that Trump solved it. He did the impossible but never got credit for it because a lot of people depend on "managing the conflict" for their livelihood. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:06 AM (llXky) 136
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 09:57 AM (llXky)
Agreed about Beevor's take on the Spanish Civil War, though what really bothered me was his determination to pretend that the Red Terror committed by the Republicans was no big deal (unlike Franco's White Terror, natch). However, his book on the fall of Berlin in 1945 is very good; it's very detailed, and leaves no doubt that the Red Army acted just as horribly as the Nazis (Beevor's account of the mass rapes is stomach-churning). If anything, I would say he's slightly sympathetic to the Prussian conservative aristocracy in that work. Posted by: Dr. T at April 14, 2024 10:07 AM (g0Y4p) 137
I'm reading The Life of Sir Richard Burton (the explorer not the actor)l.
I found the description of a Persian girl interesting. " her eyes were narcissi, her cheeks sweet basil". I have no idea what that means but it has a certain Song of Solomon feel. And whatever happened to upper class elitists who live adventurous, interesting lives? Posted by: Northernlurker at April 14, 2024 10:08 AM (ewqMN) 138
Buscemi's Khruschev steals the show, until Jason Isaacs's Zhukov steals it back.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:02 AM (Gse2f) --- One of those classic ensemble cast movies I didn't think anyone could make anymore. Michael Palin's Molotov arguing with himself in circles was also a highlight. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:08 AM (llXky) 139
Am I right? Mark Moyar books on Vietnam argue that Vietnam was a US strategic interest and that we badly botched the war's execution.
Who knows. My own read is that Vietnam only became so strategic because we made it so. And I want to better understand if the CIA was responsible. FFS, they took out the duly elected leader of the South. And then Gulf of Tonkin. Any reading suggestions? Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:09 AM (Gse2f) 140
Other books I could not finish include anything at all written by William S. Burroughs.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:09 AM (OX9vb) 141
Sgt. Mom's bookshop kit is wonderful. Someone had fun coming up with all the details and signs. And I love that typewriter.
Posted by: JTB at April 14, 2024 10:10 AM (zudum) 142
I guess enough time has passed that I must once more advise people not to read anything by Antony Beevor. Yes, he's a best-selling author and all that, but his book on the Spanish Civil War was utter trash.
Lloyd, aren't you being a little rough on the Beevor? Posted by: Zombie Barbara Blillingsley at April 14, 2024 10:10 AM (eDfFs) 143
I like when it gets nice out to take book outside
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2024 10:11 AM (fwDg9) 144
And whatever happened to upper class elitists who live adventurous, interesting lives?
Posted by: Northernlurker Elites now spend their time and money trying to subvert the countries that allowed them to acquire their wealth, and build bunkers on remote islands. Quite a departure from the "robber barons". Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 10:12 AM (5esVy) 145
124 So this is another candidate for the "movie is better than book" collection. Because the movie is pretty good.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:02 AM (llXky) That was a low bar to clear in my opinion. Posted by: NR Pax at April 14, 2024 10:13 AM (x0K/Y) 146
My own read is that Vietnam only became so strategic because we made it so. And I want to better understand if the CIA was responsible. FFS, they took out the duly elected leader of the South. And then Gulf of Tonkin.
Any reading suggestions? Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:09 AM (Gse2f) --- For the Chinese perspective, read my Walls of Men: A Military History of China 2500 B.C. to A.D. 2020. I know it's shameless self-promotion, but too many books on Vietnam take the American perspective, which exclusively uses the lens of the Cold War. Yes, Mao was a Communist, but he was also Chinese, and Vietnam was a Chinese vassal for centuries, same as Korea. When the attempt to return Korea to vassal status failed in 1953, it was inevitable that China would try to prevent the same fate from befalling Vietnam. The extent of Chinese involvement has been largely hidden from what I've seen. China provided the entire air defense network, supplies, and huge amounts of logistical material. The business about the CIA coup is beside the point. If South Vietnam had found greater stability in the early 1960s, China would simply have raised its level of involvement. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:14 AM (llXky) 147
"King Rat" by James Clavell. The characters sucked and I was quietly hopeful that the Japanese would commit war crimes on them at some point. I gave up before chapter 10 and returned the book to the library.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 14, 2024 09:52 AM (x0K/Y) Both the novel and the movie are excellent. James Clavell was held as a Japanese POW in prison camps during WWII, I'm pretty sure his take on and people in the prison camps of "King Rat" is the straight story. Reality at the extremes ain't pretty. Posted by: Zombie Barbara Blillingsley at April 14, 2024 10:15 AM (eDfFs) 148
"The Boer War" and "The Scramble For Africa" by Thomas Pakenham were both very good.
Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:15 AM (5HQE5) Posted by: naturalfake at April 14, 2024 10:16 AM (eDfFs) 150
I spent the week bouncing between various comic book collections, trying in vain to whittle down to 'to be read' pile. I say 'in vain' because just yesterday a new collection arrived in the mail: a crowdfuned collection I pledged to months ago and had all but forgotten about. Anyways, the books I'm pushing through:
"Deadly Hands of Kung-Fu: Omnibus 1." From the mid 70s, it's a little bit silly, and a little bit shlocky. But it does include some early work from an artist (George Perez) that I was not expecting to find. "Wolverine: Omnibus 2." Superhero stories from the late 80's/early 90's. Lots of different writers and artists in this book, but most of them are seasoned veterans. Just master-craftsmen grinding away at their jobs. Mostly good. "The Complete Witchblade 3." An Image comic from the early 00's. This series flirts with greatness, but always falls short: sloppy writing in book 1, inconsistent art (after the initial penciller moved on) and lack of direction in book 2. Book 3 is transitioning to a new creative team, but I haven't read far enough to know if they will be better. Posted by: Castle Guy at April 14, 2024 10:16 AM (Lhaco) 151
>>140 Other books I could not finish include anything at all written by William S. Burroughs.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:09 AM (OX9vb) "You win something like jellyfish. Or it win you." Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:17 AM (5HQE5) 152
Except in the wildermess of mirrors kennedy blinked
He was more focused on laos in the preceding years which was in a small scale civil war with the neutralist region and vang pao Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:19 AM (PXvVL) 153
The extent of Chinese involvement has been largely hidden from what I've seen. China provided the entire air defense network, supplies, and huge amounts of logistical material.
The business about the CIA coup is beside the point. If South Vietnam had found greater stability in the early 1960s, China would simply have raised its level of involvement. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd China was pushing to expand in North Korea and Vietnam, is now pushing on Taiwan and India, yet all of our focus us on Russia. We are focused on the wrong threat. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 10:19 AM (5esVy) 154
"Did someone actually read part of Finnegan's Wake? I couldn't even get out of the first sentence.
I read the last sentence which runs into the first. a way a lone a last a loved a long the / riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs. It's poetic, And it's drivel Joyce was inspired by the poplular Irish pub song about Tim Finnegan getting a knock on the head at work, and then waking up at his own wake. Begorrah! Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:19 AM (Gse2f) 155
>>Any reading suggestions?
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:09 AM (Gse2f) "Meditations In Green" by Stephen Wright. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:20 AM (5HQE5) 156
King Rat -- my favorite cookbook!
Posted by: Barack Hussein 'I can use it now' 0bama at April 14, 2024 10:21 AM (vtyCZ) 157
"it seems that nihilism at its core is self-destructive."
Definitely. Unfortunately, nihilism does so much damage as it trudges to self-immolation. Perfessor, Your comment made me think of Yeats' "The Second Coming" and it's closing lines. "And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?" Posted by: JTB at April 14, 2024 10:21 AM (zudum) 158
Poppies. Vietnam was over Poppies. Big money for a fledgling spy agency or a new commie regime.
Posted by: Reforger at April 14, 2024 10:21 AM (B705c) 159
The greatest weakness of American foreign policy is it's inability to dig deep into the past. We are a nation with a shallow history - hardly 1% of the population can tell you with any certainty where its ancestors were in 1750.
Older nations have deep ties to their past, and even though Mao tried a reset to Year Zero, he was deeply tied to it. Indeed, the Cultural Revolution was in large part a counter-coup by Mao to restore his control of the country. Thus, one can't examine Vietnam without understanding that the Western powers had dominated China for a century, patrolling its rivers, running its ports and even collecting its taxes. This was intolerable, and China desired (and still desires) to have its greatness unchallenged, especially along its frontiers. It was never going to allow a foreign-backed government to dominate a part of Vietnam, especially after the failure of Korea. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:21 AM (llXky) 160
"The Boer War" and "The Scramble For Africa" by Thomas Pakenham were both very good.
Posted by: ZOD Yes, I highly recommended The Scramble for Africa. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 10:22 AM (5esVy) 161
In short: the techno-thriller had lost its thrill.
Happened to the whole genre once every possible conflict had been done. I knew it was over when one of the big names did US vs Mexico and had to really work to a situation where we only could use a couple of National Guard divisions so as not to make it a ten minute war. That was pretty much the only scenario that hadn't been done yet Posted by: azjaeger at April 14, 2024 10:22 AM (3/XaG) 162
I never read Witchblade, but I thought it had only two selling points, and they both were barely covered.
Posted by: Weak Geek at April 14, 2024 10:22 AM (p/isN) 163
But it was a joint affair remember ho had survived the stalin purges
Of course triumph just shows how big a fool halberstam and prochnau and sheehan were from the getgo Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:25 AM (PXvVL) 164
China was pushing to expand in North Korea and Vietnam, is now pushing on Taiwan and India, yet all of our focus us on Russia. We are focused on the wrong threat.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 10:19 AM (5esVy) --- China was seeking to *restore* its historical position in Korea, Vietnam, and Taiwan, and is trying to intimidate India. Just as it is the definition of insanity to think that Russia would ever accept a foreign-aligned Ukraine (as likely as us accepting a Chinese-affiliated Texas), so is it important that we understand China's moves are not pure aggression for its own sake. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:25 AM (llXky) 165
I went out to get the paper this morning only to be informed that I was the last subscriber to the Sunday Grand Rapids Press within a half mile and delivery may be stopped. An all leftist rag these days but an article about a commie bookstore called Black Dog on Fulton street than read like an ad caught my eye, might go down next week and ask for a copy of "God and Man at Yale". Posted by: Auspex at April 14, 2024 10:25 AM (j4U/Z) Posted by: callsign claymore at April 14, 2024 10:25 AM (JcnCJ) 167
And whatever happened to upper class elitists who live adventurous, interesting lives?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 14, 2024 10:08 AM (ewqMN) They died in the great wars. Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 14, 2024 10:26 AM (0eaVi) 168
137" her eyes were narcissi, her cheeks sweet basil". I have no idea what that means but it has a certain Song of Solomon feel.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 14, 2024 10:08 AM (ewqMN) I plugged that into Microsoft's AI. It gave me a pretty picture, but I don't think it understood the assignment, really. https://tinyurl.com/mr2tvcyx Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:26 AM (OX9vb) 169
A new comic collection arrived in the mail yesterday (after being 'pre-orderded' via kickstarter months ago) and I dove right in, rather than waiting until it felt like just another book on my shelf. "By the Horns" hardcover 1. The book itself looks really nice: hardcover, omnibus size (7.75"x11.5"), sewn binding (more than 1 self-published hardcover I've gotten has skipped that option) and it even has a built-in ribbon bookmark. The story....
The story does have a few worrisome elements. It's a fantasy world, but with random tech that seem unsupportable by the medeval society creating it. (but maybe its all magic-pwered....) The demographics match that of downtown LA, even small farming towns have the modern racial misture. And the main character is a woman (okay, cool) who fights monsters (again, cool, I read Red Sonja as well) and who has dyed the tips of her hair pink (euh.). But... (Continued, because it seems I ran out of room) Posted by: Castle Guy at April 14, 2024 10:28 AM (Lhaco) 170
Yes pillsburys view of a hundred year war does suggest itself
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:28 AM (PXvVL) 171
In short: the techno-thriller had lost its thrill.
Posted by: azjaeger These days, if you want to read a story about a dystopian agency trying to destroy the fabric of the country, using technology and even murder, just pick up a newspaper. Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 14, 2024 10:28 AM (5esVy) 172
>>might go down next week and ask for a copy of "God and Man at Yale".
Posted by: Auspex at April 14, 2024 10:25 AM (j4U/Z) Or "Trousered Apes," by Duncan Williams. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:28 AM (5HQE5) 173
Poppies. Vietnam was over Poppies. Big money for a fledgling spy agency or a new commie regime.
Posted by: Reforger at April 14, 2024 10:21 AM (B705c) --- The Golden Triangle is in Thailand, though. Lots of institutions wanted to stay - the Army for one, because historically we didn't need one in peacetime. Vietnam meant they ate well and got lots of toys. In reality, we could get buy with half of the active duty army and vastly increase the National Guard. The MIL hates that because it would limit their profits and interventions. If every little intervention involves pulling people from their jobs and families, that's a problem. This is why the solution to Vietnam's manpower needs was NOT to use the reserve component, but snatch up teenagers before they got established in life. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:28 AM (llXky) 174
Started reading Butcher and Blackbird by Brynne Weaver this week based on a recommendation I got on vacation last month. Loving it so far! In the realm of serial killer romance novels, I'm going out on a limb to guess this is the best one. I know some of the other 'ettes are as twisted as me, so I think they might enjoy it too.
There is a page-long, tongue-in-cheek trigger warning after the title page, but I knew I was going to like the book when I got to the dedication: "For those of you who read the trigger warnings and said: 'Accidental cannibalism?! Count me in!' This one's for you." Posted by: She Hobbit at April 14, 2024 10:28 AM (ftFVW) 175
The Vietnamese hate China. They got into a shooting war after we left.
I'm still going with "we blundered into a local thing in a place that wasn't strategic." And We The People were manipulated and lied to ... "This too is the story of Ukraine ..." Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:29 AM (Gse2f) 176
@165 --
an article ... that read like an ad ... A British press baron's definition of news was: "What someone somewhere wishes to be suppressed. All else is advertising." Posted by: Weak Geek at April 14, 2024 10:30 AM (p/isN) 177
Yes what was the real purpose of that war
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:31 AM (PXvVL) 178
I was making another, futile, attempt at organizing some of my books. While meditating about the difficulty in assigning Chesterton as literature, history, or historical literary criticism (you can see my problem here) I came across my copies of the Landmark History series. I have all of them and while I've thumbed through them I never finished them. I get too involved in the maps and rabbit holes leading from the footnotes. They should go on the TBR pile, maybe their own pile since they are thick and heavy.
Posted by: JTB at April 14, 2024 10:31 AM (zudum) 179
That was a pretty short skirmish although china had taken over in kampuchea thailand was pretty resistant to invasion though
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:32 AM (PXvVL) 180
("By The Horns" comic review, part 2)
But, despite these warning signs, I'm hopeful the story will stay good. (I'm only an issue or two in) In the first 10 pages, our heroine establishes herself as a strong-independent-wahmen (tm) who would rather kill monsters than work on a farm like a peasant. And then she is banished from her village, because it's a farming village, and if she isn't going to help farm, they aren't going to feed her! I had to stop reading because I was laughing so hard. It's so rare to see karma catch up with these characters. To see them actually have to deal with the consequences of their decisions.... Anyways, that bought the comic a lot of good will, so I'm looking forward to the rest of the story. Posted by: Castle Guy at April 14, 2024 10:32 AM (Lhaco) 181
174 Started reading Butcher and Blackbird by Brynne Weaver this week based on a recommendation I got on vacation last month.
** I was wary of a booktok popular book.but I will try that one Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 10:33 AM (q2svT) 182
The Vietnamese hate China. They got into a shooting war after we left.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:29 AM (Gse2f) --- So? Are you saying China didn't provide 300,000 PLA troops to support them against us? It was an alliance of convenience, and it fell apart because Vietnam intervened against the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Mao launched a spoiling offensive to punish Vietnam and force them to withdraw. It failed. But these people have been dealing with each other for a long time. It's complicated. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:33 AM (llXky) 183
>>> hardly 1% of the population can tell you with any certainty where its ancestors were in 1750.
-------------- Mine were in SC. Posted by: Braenyard at April 14, 2024 10:35 AM (zoOf+) 184
>>kampuchea
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:32 AM (PXvVL) (Pauses in yard work, surveys beautiful spring day, moment of profound inner peace that demands verbal expression) "Kampuchea." (Smiles, resumes yard work) Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:35 AM (5HQE5) 185
I should clarify - Mao was dead. His successors share his worldview, hence the strike against Vietnam.
Which went poorly. And again we come back to: Is it a good use of American lives and treasure to police the border between Vietnam and China? Or the borders of Eastern Europe? Can't we let the locals work it out, as they have done since the dawn of time? Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:35 AM (llXky) Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 10:35 AM (q2svT) 187
Read Nuclear War: A Scenario by Annie Jacobson. It describes the first few hours after North Korea fires two missiles at the US. The first is a decapitation strike on DC and the second on the Diablo Canyon reactor in CA. Cutting to the chase, it all goes very badly and escalates to all-out annihilation among Korea, Russia, the US, Europe and China. The writing style is pretty bad and I don't agree with the extent of "nuclear winter" she describes but the two disturbing things are 1) how little time and under what pressures there are after a launch has been detected and 2) how difficult the process is to stop after things begin. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 14, 2024 10:36 AM (MoZTd) 188
I discovered Brandon Sanderson, which was a joy for seeing how incredibly prolific he is. I saw the title Alcatraz versus the Evil Librarians and could not resist the title. The audiobook has a great cast.
I rotate out for spots: Non-fiction, gothic sci-fi, classic sci-fi, and Brandon Sanderson. My current non-fiction is the biography of Elon Musk. It occurs to me that if the book is only two years old, I will be missing major events. The man isn't just important, he goes from one important event to another. Gothic Sci-fi: Book of the New Sun, book 2. Usually a warhammer novel goes here. Classic Sci-fi: A Wizard of Earthsea. How nice that a feminist wrote a book that doesn't pass the Bechtel test. Every great story completely fails that test BTW. Sanderson: Currently it is Mystborn. OFF TOPIC: I'm watching The Seventh Son, a wizard's journey where the mentor is basically Rooster Cogburn. They even cast Jeff Bridges. Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2024 10:36 AM (lhenN) 189
"But these people have been dealing with each other for a long time. It's complicated."
Agreed. Why did we get involved? Korea was different. Because Japan was a Big Domino. Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:36 AM (Gse2f) 190
Yes forgot to capitalize year zero was a byproduct of our embrace with mao
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:37 AM (PXvVL) 191
Korea was different. Because Japan was a Big Domino. Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:36 AM (Gse2f) --- Had we stopped at the 38th Parallel, the Chinese would not have come in. This is known. Mao's forces were not ready for a showdown, and it's telling that the troops they sent in were still armed with Kar98ks and even Hanyang 88s. Production of the PPsh was underway, but the Mosin, SKS and AK tooling wasn't set up until 1953-56. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:41 AM (llXky) 192
Our local Barnes and Noble closed last week. Their 20 year lease was up and the landlord had already made a deal with some boutique gym to take over the space. To say the community was a bit upset is an understatement. It was a really nice store. No overt wokeness on display. Well run and well stocked. B&N says they will look for another location in the area. We'll see if that happens. They did donate all their unsold merchandise to our local library which I thought was awfully nice. My DIL, who works at the library, sent me pictures of all the swag. Dozens and dozens of boxes. They were thrilled. So I guess there was one good thing to come out of the closing.
Posted by: Tuna at April 14, 2024 09:22 AM (oaGWv) Aw, man, that'd be heartbreaking. To loose a bookstore to low sales is one thing. To loose it just because their lease wasn't renewed.....Ouch. Posted by: Castle Guy at April 14, 2024 10:41 AM (Lhaco) 193
And whatever happened to upper class elitists who live adventurous, interesting lives?
Posted by: Northernlurker They die taking selfies while traveling to see the world's wonders and cliffs, tall buildings, and towers. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 10:41 AM (ZF2NB) 194
>>> Mao launched a spoiling offensive to punish Vietnam and force them to withdraw. It failed.
-------------- The Chinese are not good ground pounders, probably leadership. Leadership is willing to throw its people into the meat grinder but the same (analogous root?) underlying problem exists with their engineering and assembly. Something missing in their culture something intrinsic to US and to the Japanese. Today, they routinely get pushed back by the Indians at their border. Posted by: Braenyard at April 14, 2024 10:42 AM (zoOf+) 195
He's also a brand rather than an author. I hope his family's getting paid for all the stuff with his name on it. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd ___________ I gave up on Clancy after a while. He has a quaint belief in the competence of our military and intelligence agencies. The settings became increasingly implausible. And his characters are made of cardboard. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 14, 2024 10:43 AM (MoZTd) 196
They die taking selfies while traveling to see the world's wonders and cliffs, tall buildings, and towers.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 10:41 AM (ZF2NB) --- Or work at trendy non-profits and travel the world accomplishing nothing because they were raised in sheltered bubbles where accountability doesn't exist. See also: Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, all of the Bush and Romney families. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:43 AM (llXky) 197
>Joyce was inspired by the poplular Irish pub song about Tim Finnegan getting a knock on the head at work, and then waking up at his own wake. Begorrah!
We throw him the wake of his life and he ruins it. Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2024 10:44 AM (lhenN) 198
174 Started reading Butcher and Blackbird by Brynne Weaver this week based on a recommendation I got on vacation last month. Loving it so far! In the realm of serial killer romance novels, I'm going out on a limb to guess this is the best one. I know some of the other 'ettes are as twisted as me, so I think they might enjoy it too.
Posted by: She Hobbit at April 14, 2024 10:28 AM (ftFVW) My chiropractor's assistant recommended this to me a couple of weeks ago. It's on my kindle TBR list. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:44 AM (OX9vb) 199
Later in the Burton book a young woman describes him as having defined sagacious eyebrows.
What man doesn't want defined sagacious eyebrows? Posted by: Northernlurker at April 14, 2024 10:45 AM (ewqMN) 200
>>Today, they routinely get pushed back by the Indians at their border. Posted by: Braenyard at April 14, 2024 10:42 AM (zoOf+)
Edited to read: Today, they routinely get staked to a fire-ant nest and covered with honey by the Indians at their border. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:45 AM (5HQE5) 201
Today, they routinely get pushed back by the Indians at their border. Posted by: Braenyard at April 14, 2024 10:42 AM (zoOf+) __________ But they beat the tar out of India in 1962. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 14, 2024 10:45 AM (MoZTd) 202
Or work at trendy non-profits and travel the world accomplishing nothing because they were raised in sheltered bubbles where accountability doesn't exist.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Add NGOs and I'll agree. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 10:45 AM (ZF2NB) 203
The members of the landsraad
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:46 AM (PXvVL) 204
The extent of Chinese involvement has been largely hidden from what I've seen. China provided the entire air defense network, supplies, and huge amounts of logistical material.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:14 AM (llXky) Concur...During Ia Drang, Lt.Col. Moore's men reported they thought they heard Chinese speakers on the comms and came across PLA uniforms on a few of the dead but this was dismissed and never expounded on. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 10:47 AM (R/m4+) 205
>>And his characters are made of cardboard.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 14, 2024 10:43 AM (MoZTd) Hollywood endings. None of his books end with the U.S. hero being captured, tortured, and then thrown off a tall building, the end. Meh. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:47 AM (5HQE5) 206
Played by Denzel, Frank Lucas is the hero of American Gangster. He took over the Harlem heroin trade, then sold wholesale to the "guineas" greatly expanding the carnage in NYC in the 60s into the 70s.
He did this by smuggling Golden Trianglle heroin in the caskets of dead American soldiers in volume. To did this, he needed high-level support from our government. I wonder who? FFS, it was probably their idea, not Lucas. Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:48 AM (Gse2f) 207
Gotta go to Mass. Thanks again, Perfesser!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 14, 2024 10:49 AM (llXky) 208
Weak Geek mentioned a Matt Helm book in comment 21. There are a few books I always read nonstop. The Matt Helm series and anything by Donald Hamilton qualified. The Martha's Vineyard books by Philip Craig and the Liturgical Mystery series by Mark Schweizer are on the list. I would include Nero Wolfe stories but many are too short to be books by themselves so finishing them in one go is easy.
Posted by: JTB at April 14, 2024 10:49 AM (zudum) Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 10:49 AM (ZF2NB) 210
Actually it was atkinson who smuggled them in tea chests this was just the storylucas told gullible reporters like jacobsen its bad enough
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:50 AM (PXvVL) 211
The defaced ones with markings on the stocks were captured by Chinese Red Army and sent to Korea with the "volunteers" and then brought home as trophies. But the ones without the marks...near as I can figure, bringbacks from US troops in China during the war and after. Not a lot of info out there.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd ======== The usual practice of how Commie obtained weaponry ended up as Western collector items is laundering them through a third country. Some of the big firearm import warehouses had pretty close relations back in the day with our intel community which apparently let them bring in a lot of stuff in the past. Some of it was also that Commie countries like China, Russia, Czecholslovakia, Yugoslavia, etc. sprayed surplus weaponry across the third world. Try Hoosier Gunworks as they did have examples of Chinese V24 Mausers with markings and militia knockoffs. Whole subvariant of Mauser collecting that I simply did not want to start because of difficulty in obtaining information of which militia used what and so on. Occasionally you will also see M1917 US rifles that went through China as aid to the Nationalists and some were captured too. Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 10:50 AM (vKfbp) 212
Books I couldn't finish? Downbelow Station by C. J. Cherryh. When they decide that they have to issue ID's to everyone so they can be fed and also decide that they have to positively identify everyone to issue an ID, I wall the book. That's not how bureaucrats work. The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson. I'm like 18 hours into the audiobook and it's like 1/3 done and I'm, well, waiting for something interesting to happen. Every one of the viewpoint characters is moaning about how hopeless their situation and, well, I just can't care. The Broken Crown by Michelle West. There's lots of people talking about stuff and some of what they say is essential to the plot, but I couldn't figure out what it was and I had no idea who was on which side of this ultimate battle of good and evil.
On the other hand, I had no trouble finishing The Incrementalists Somebody at the book group I inhabit gave me a copy and I've read it at least twice. I can certainly understand the criticisms of it, though. Posted by: Cybersmythe at April 14, 2024 10:50 AM (iZEhM) 213
The formula for just about every military novel. 1. Trouble brewing 2. The storm breaks 3. The US is pushed back 4. Brilliant idea developed 5. The tables turn 6. Our boys prevail 7. Epilogue Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 14, 2024 10:51 AM (MoZTd) 214
"Had we stopped at the 38th Parallel, the Chinese would not have come in. "
Agreed. It's on MacArthur, no? He defines vainglorious. Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2024 10:52 AM (Gse2f) 215
I don't read much fantasy but . . .
Harry Sisson @harryjsisson In a moment of incredible uncertainty, I’m so happy that we have President Biden in the Oval Office. He’s calm, cool, collected, experienced, and knows what he’s doing. I’m thankful for this administration. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 10:52 AM (FVME7) 216
I gave up on Clancy after a while. He has a quaint belief in the competence of our military and intelligence agencies. The settings became increasingly implausible. And his characters are made of cardboard.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh ========= Often people that excel at putting forth technical information suck at writing plausible characters and dialogue. Also vice versa. Michael Crichton was one of the few that could do both in a story but not always. Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 10:53 AM (vKfbp) 217
When dealing with any country in Asia, it's always complicated. Observed that while in the ME. Families, clans, tribes, etc.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 14, 2024 10:54 AM (R4t5M) 218
So far in Triumph Forsaken Ho was wishing either the Soviets or China would help his takeover of the South and didn't care who as long as one or the other or both.
Neither was getting much from the North Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2024 10:55 AM (fwDg9) 219
217 When dealing with any country in Asia, it's always complicated. Observed that while in the ME. Families, clans, tribes, etc.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 14, 2024 10:54 AM (R4t5M) The first of the classic blunders... Posted by: Vizzini the Sicilian at April 14, 2024 10:55 AM (PiwSw) 220
Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson In a moment of incredible uncertainty, I’m so happy that we have President Biden in the Oval Office. He’s calm, cool, collected, experienced, and knows what he’s doing. I’m thankful for this administration. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 10:52 AM (FVME7) Holy shit. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 14, 2024 10:55 AM (R4t5M) 221
Dont do weed kids or you end up like sisson
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at April 14, 2024 10:57 AM (PXvVL) 222
>In a moment of incredible uncertainty, I’m so happy that we have President Biden in the Oval Office. He’s calm, cool, collected, experienced, and knows what he’s doing. I’m thankful for this administration.
Unreachables. Sometimes I see a gaggle of them on twitter. Twitter is one of two things. Scroll and laugh, or click and seethe. Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2024 10:57 AM (lhenN) 223
The formula for just about every military novel.
1. Trouble brewing 2. The storm breaks 3. The US is pushed back 4. Brilliant idea developed 5. The tables turn 6. Our boys prevail 7. Epilogue Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh ======== I prefer reading the real deal rather than military set novels. A few military veterans did good turns in integrating their experiences and knowledge into sci fi like David Drake or Michael Z Williamson among others. Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 10:57 AM (vKfbp) 224
I'm like 18 hours into the audiobook and it's like 1/3 done and I'm, well, waiting for something interesting to happen.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at April 14, 2024 10:50 AM (iZEhM) Holy....I hope you're exaggerating. It would take the rest of my life to listen to a 54-hour audiobook. Haha! Interesting topic of discussion for listeners of audiobooks--do you have to like the reader to continue? How far in before you abandon a book because you don't like the narrator? And do you listen at regular speed, always, or do you accelerate it so you can listen to more books in limited time? Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:58 AM (OX9vb) 225
162 I never read Witchblade, but I thought it had only two selling points, and they both were barely covered.
Posted by: Weak Geek at April 14, 2024 10:22 AM (p/isN) Sadly, you're not wrong. Posted by: Castle Guy at April 14, 2024 10:59 AM (Lhaco) 226
Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson In a moment of incredible uncertainty, I’m so happy that we have President Biden in the Oval Office. He’s calm, cool, collected, experienced, and knows what he’s doing. I’m thankful for this administration. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks ====== Perfect example of the aphorism that it is best to keep one's mouth shut rather than proving one is a fool in public. Tweets are more or less forever even if you try to delete them. Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 10:59 AM (vKfbp) 227
>>Unreachables. Sometimes I see a gaggle of them on twitter. Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2024 10:57 AM (lhenN)
Eloi. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 10:59 AM (5HQE5) 228
Brezhnev had sagacious eyebrows.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2024 11:00 AM (lhenN) 229
Good morning.
Yumi was also a book I couldn't finish. I'm encouraged by the Perfesser's comments and a Sanderson fan so maybe try again. Hrothgar loaned me a copy of Timeline by Michael Chrichton and although I usually like his books, put this one down. Maybe because I really don't like time travel books. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 11:00 AM (t/2Uw) 230
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But they beat the tar out of India in 1962. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh ------------------ Apparently the Indians learn from their mistakes. As barbaric as parts of that country are there is an element that is pushing hard toward modernity. Posted by: Braenyard at April 14, 2024 11:00 AM (zoOf+) 231
If sisson has much money somebody's gonna try to sell him the Golden Gate Bridge soon. And he'll probably buy it...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 14, 2024 11:01 AM (q3u5l) 232
In reality, we could get buy with half of the active duty army and vastly increase the National Guard. The MIL hates that because it would limit their profits and interventions. If every little intervention involves pulling people from their jobs and families, that's a problem. This is why the solution to Vietnam's manpower needs was NOT to use the reserve component, but snatch up teenagers before they got established in life.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd --------- I nominate you for Secretary of War--forget the wimpy Sec. of Defense. Posted by: whig at April 14, 2024 11:02 AM (vKfbp) 233
As far as what I'm reading, I've got nonfiction and fiction in my active reading pile. For fiction, I'm reading Reaper Man by Terry Pratchett and Brothers of the Wind by Tad Williams. I got all of pTerry's Discworld books via Humble Bundle several months ago, and the Tad Williams book through the book group last month. (Meeting coming up Monday, so I'm hustling to finish it today.) It has nothing to do with the movie of the same name.
Nonfiction? Effective Modern C++ and C++ Move Semantics because the guy who sent me the job offer suggested I could have a broader pick of projects if I got up to speed on C++17 and C++20. I've got more books coming even though it feels like my mind has gone 20 rounds with Mike Tyson. Metaphorically. Posted by: Cybersmythe at April 14, 2024 11:02 AM (iZEhM) 234
Twitter is one of two things. Scroll and laugh, or click and seethe.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2024 10:57 AM (lhenN) I have another way: Ignore and ignore. Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2024 11:02 AM (zkeGc) 235
>>Interesting topic of discussion for listeners of audiobooks--do you have to like the reader to continue? Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:58 AM (OX9vb)
Absolutely. Barrett Whitener is an excellent narrator. Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 11:04 AM (5HQE5) 236
Books I couldn't finish. Probably a bunch but one that was at least good enough for me to remember trying to read it was Stephenson's Diamond Age. I gave it at least two tries.
Books I started, put down, and haven't gotten back to "yet:" Foote's trilogy. But I will. Really. Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 11:04 AM (/y8xj) 237
Finished Fahrenheit 451 this week. It's just brilliant. All I remember from my first read as a teenager was the basic plot, and very little of that. The prose alone is worth the effort, it's almost lyrical in places. Written as a cautionary tale in the early 50s it remains relevant today, and in fact may be even more relevant today.
I'm also almost done with Treasure Island. I had almost forgotten how much fun a grand adventure story can be. Posted by: who knew at April 14, 2024 11:04 AM (4I7VG) 238
>Interesting topic of discussion for listeners of audiobooks--do you have to like the reader to continue? How far in before you abandon a book because you don't like the narrator? And do you listen at regular speed, always, or do you accelerate it so you can listen to more books in limited time?
I am more likely to abandon a book because of the sound than because of the story. The audiobook for Warbreaker has a fine cast but the music and ambient noise is bad and very loud. Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2024 11:04 AM (lhenN) Posted by: Just Some Guy at April 14, 2024 11:05 AM (q3u5l) 240
Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson In a moment of incredible uncertainty, I’m so happy that we have President Biden in the Oval Office. He’s calm, cool, collected, experienced, and knows what he’s doing. I’m thankful for this administration. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 10:52 AM (FVME7) Nobody believes that. Nobody. How sad, to go through life having to lie in public, because your fruity little club tells you to. Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2024 11:06 AM (zkeGc) 241
Wow. My library has a copy of Butcher &Blackbird so I put a reservation in. I love it when a plan comes together.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 11:07 AM (t/2Uw) 242
4. Brilliant idea developed
===== How the heck could a brilliant idea be developed and get through the Plump Princes of the Pentagon in less than 20 years? Posted by: mustbequantum at April 14, 2024 11:07 AM (MIKMs) 243
It is the first book in a trilogy.
I hope it isn't like getting me to read Islington's Will of the Many and finding out the book was just published and who knew when book 2 would be coming out. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 11:09 AM (t/2Uw) 244
Books I started, put down, and haven't gotten back to "yet:" Foote's trilogy. But I will. Really.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 14, 2024 11:04 AM (/y8xj) I did finish that one, eons ago, but had the same reaction to Churchill's Marlborough works. Egad, those are big and thick, and I tried. I really did. Someday. Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2024 11:10 AM (zkeGc) 245
Greetings, O Book Thread!
The scribbling continues. New release just started pre-orders. And in the amazing tech side, I have been playing with the new beta program with AI voice generated audiobooks. It is amazing. Because I write science fiction I occasionally have to help the nice robot learn how to pronounce my made-up terms and names, but for the most part it even understands how dialogue needs different emphasis on different words, all by itself! And it makes generating audiobooks massively cheaper, so it's affordable for people to buy. Right now I'm just doing the Sequoyah trilogy (one book left!) as an experiment, but the feedback has been encouraging. What do people think of audiobooks? What is a dealbreaker? What do people like? I haven't used them much myself so I don't know. Posted by: Sabrina Chase at April 14, 2024 11:13 AM (Sebkt) 246
Absolutely. Barrett Whitener is an excellent narrator.
Posted by: ZOD at April 14, 2024 11:04 AM (5HQE5) Oh, good--I'll look for things he's read. I like Gerard Doyle for any Irish books. I also like Will Collyer. Christian Delaine is awful, as are most authors who read their own work. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 11:14 AM (OX9vb) 247
Posted by: She Hobbit at April 14, 2024 10:28 AM (ftFVW)
My chiropractor's assistant recommended this to me a couple of weeks ago. It's on my kindle TBR list. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:44 AM (OX9vb) Serial killer. Romance novels. Well that does it. I'm in the wrong line of work. Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2024 11:15 AM (QpPZM) 248
Also I am 113 out of 113 holds on the book so it may be awhile before I get it.
Picked up a Reacher book that I must have read at so,e point in the last because my Kindle says so. Personal. I don't remember it. It is one where Reacher is actually playing detective and I'm enjoying it. Haven't figured out which female character he's going to sleep with at the end of the book yet. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 14, 2024 11:15 AM (t/2Uw) 249
Books I couldn't finish: I'm sure I've bailed on a lot of ebooks. But the reason is usually boredom or not engaging with the characters or writing styles. So I usually don't remember the books I abandon...
There is one novel I do remember bailing on, or rather, rage-quitting. I don't recall the title, but it was some doorstop-style fantasy novel. The main character was an aspiring warrior from a small tribe: he and two buddies went out into the world to prove themselves. Thier first 'quest' involved luring the men away from a neighboring settlement, then sneaking into the village and killing all the children and raping all the women, so that the village would have their bloodline, instead of the neighboring bloodline. I didn't rage-quit then, but I should have. I gave up when it became clear that our 'hero' wasn't going to bet better. While I appreciate the idea of writing about genuinely different culture, with its own worldview, and not imposing modern morality onto fantasy settings...There are limits. And life is too short to waste time reading about the adventures of an evil monster... Posted by: Castle Guy at April 14, 2024 11:15 AM (Lhaco) 250
I gave up on Ulysses three times before I finished it and once I did I thought it was worth it. I read "Beloved" the first time but 30 years later I tried to reread it and tossed into the Goodwill pile before chapter three. Horrible writing, ant least in my opinion.
Posted by: who knew at April 14, 2024 11:17 AM (4I7VG) 251
"What do people think of audiobooks? What is a dealbreaker?"
I use audiobooks quite a lot, enjoy them while washing the dishes or going for a walk. Deal breaker is a narrator with a harsh or confusing style of speech. Fortunately there is a sample offered before you buy the audio book. Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 14, 2024 11:17 AM (MeG8a) 252
"What do people think of audiobooks? What is a dealbreaker?"
I like them when I'm driving and cooking (not usually at the same time). If I don't like the reader, I will abandon it within ten minutes. Usually less. If I do like the reader, I will start to look for every single thing that person has narrated. Some readers are just too in love with the sound of their own voice. Too slow, too dramatic, in an Acting! Yes! Thank you!!! sense. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 11:22 AM (OX9vb) 253
53 ... "That's why I have blotted all that out and walled myself off from the fake news. I can't help it, can't change it, so I'm focusing on the family, my parish and my community, in that order.
Life's too short to be angry." Pretty much my approach. That's why I seldom comment on the weekday threads except for the art threads. I do read the posts but then deal with more pleasant matters. I have no idea who the faces are on local or national news casts. Haven't watched them in years. And don't miss them. PS: Reading Ace and COB threads will keep you better informed than any official 'news' source. Posted by: JTB at April 14, 2024 11:22 AM (zudum) 254
235 >>Interesting topic of discussion for listeners of audiobooks--do you have to like the reader to continue? Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:58 AM (OX9vb)
--------------- Absolutely Posted by: Braenyard at April 14, 2024 11:24 AM (NlLwm) 255
Life's too short to be angry. ____________ "Things are desperate, but not serious." - Old Viennese saying Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 14, 2024 11:25 AM (MoZTd) 256
I've really been getting into Joseph Pearce's commentary on great books, particularly Shakespeare. He contends they are almost parables on how distinguish virtue from evil. I'm not 100% sure that was Shakespeare's intent but I find it very interesting.
In addition, I've been reading Eric J. Wittenberg's The Union Cavalry Comes of Age. He blames (surprise!) MacClellan for misusing, misunderstanding, and poorly organizing his cavalry arm in the early years of the war. Although I haven't gotten that far, I believe we are working our way to Brandy Station where the Union cavalry went toe to toe (hoof to hoof?) with the Confederates and proved their worth. (I may be a bit emotionally confused on this point but while I'm perfectly willing to accept the death of cavalry troopers (what are the enlisted for, anyway?) but I find the death and abuse of the horses heartbreaking.) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 11:26 AM (FVME7) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 11:27 AM (FVME7) 258
Two of the best warhammer narrators, I can't distinguish from each other. However I can tell instantly which character they are speaking for, in a book with twenty major characters.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2024 11:28 AM (lhenN) 259
I read 5 sci fi novellas this week for a course. Not knowledgable about either sci fi or novellas, so I relied on the younglings in my friendly neighborhood bookstore to pick for me. I could only finish one.
I concluded that the young have a tolerance not just for dystopia, but miserable ugly smelly dystopia that can't be endured, let alone survived or improved. One writer seemed to be sneering at the reader, lie the author of The Incident of the Fingerpost, which I couldn't finish either. Three were so complex I concluded that sci fi readers must like to read everything three times just to understand it instead of rocketing along. The only one I finished was about a robot who kept complaining that his owners hadn't ordered expensive enough programs for him to do his work properly. He spent his down time watching soap operas. The rest of the book wasn't worthy of him but he was still enough fun that I finished it. Very discouraging week. Posted by: Wenda at April 14, 2024 11:29 AM (G1K9S) 260
I sometimes adjust the playback speed to adjust for the speed of the narration. I'm in a book on Churchill right now and the reader is very good, but he rips right along. So I playback at 90% of original speed and all is good. Unfortunately that turns a 25 hour audio book into quite a bit longer, but I have time these days.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 14, 2024 11:30 AM (MeG8a) 261
I wish I could say I wish I'd like Sci Fi more, but I can't. Something just makes the genre repulsive to me.* * This is not to disparage the pleasure anyone else gets from it. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 14, 2024 11:33 AM (MoZTd) 262
I've been listening to the P.G. Wodehouse Jeeves ouvre on YouTube and am quite enjoying them. The readers are quite good. I love the way the narrator, Jeeves employer Bertie Wooster, is an unreliable narrator because of his lack of understanding of the situation.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 11:36 AM (FVME7) 263
Books I could not finish: Immortal Merlin.
Merlin the Magician is now 1500 years old and while capable of being killed, has the power to know he is in danger and has.clever ways of.dealing with that. So you'd think he'd be smarter. The books are a series. I forced myself to finish the first just to see if it got better in book two. It didn't. He's an idiot. Posted by: Diogenes at April 14, 2024 11:36 AM (W/lyH) 264
And it makes generating audiobooks massively cheaper, so it's affordable for people to buy.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at April 14, 2024 11:13 AM (Sebkt) And it cuts author's royalties! So, win-win! Posted by: Audiobook Publishers at April 14, 2024 11:37 AM (0eaVi) 265
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I wish I could say I wish I'd like Sci Fi more, but I can't. Something just makes the genre repulsive to me.* * This is not to disparage the pleasure anyone else gets from it. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 14, 2024 11:33 AM (MoZTd) The genre is repulsive? Or just the authors who work in the genre? I tried to get into steampunk a decade ago. I bought a novel, and an anthology of short stories. More than half the authors (including that of the novel) were just being degenerate and perverted, under the guise of writing a 'steampunk' story. It left a scar, and I haven't really tried looking for anything else in the genre. ...Well, except for maybe a Lindsay Buroker book or two, which turned out to be a romance novel with a steampunk/fantasy veneer. But at least those were well-written and moderately entertaining. Posted by: Castle Guy at April 14, 2024 11:42 AM (Lhaco) 266
Finished Fahrenheit 451 this week.
- I saw a YouTube about the making of the movie. Apparently, star Oskar Werner and director François Truffaut hated each other so much that Werner would sabotage the film by such acts as radical haircuts to create continuity problems. Yeah, shitting where you eat is always a good strategy! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 11:43 AM (FVME7) 267
The genre is repulsive? Or just the authors who work in the genre? __________ The genre. It's a bit hard for me to articulate. Like I largely stopped reading alt-history because the what-if fascination is usually ruined by the bad history and worse writing. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 14, 2024 11:47 AM (MoZTd) 268
224 ... "Do you have to like the reader to continue?"
Yep. The right reader can make or break an audiobook. Irritating vocal tones, too slow or fast, overly dramatic, etc., will drive me to a printed copy quickly. The right reader can enhance a familiar book. Gary Sinese doing Travels With Charley and Andy Serkis for LOTR brought out new facets in books I had pretty much memorized. Posted by: JTB at April 14, 2024 11:50 AM (zudum) 269
What man doesn't want defined sagacious eyebrows?
Posted by: Northernlurker I was just notified on Facebook that I've won $30,000 because my comment was so sagacious! I don't even remember making the comment but it must have been a humdinger! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 11:50 AM (FVME7) 270
If I don't finish a book, the reason is usually the writing. Reading is like being in the author's head, and sometimes I just don't want to be in that author's head any more.
Those, I don't generally remember. I do remember that I really enjoyed Harlen Coben's Myron Bolitar novels, so I checked out a couple of his other books. Enjoyed the first one, but the second one seemed like the first one, and when I looked up the others, they all seemed like the same story, dark secret from the past reaches out to disrupt current stable life. I'm sure this is an exaggeration, but it's got enough truth to it that I have not returned to his work. I am currently on hiatus from the Harry Dresden serles. I read very far into the series, then hit a moment I couldn't seem to get past, Dresden seeming to betray and deceive a colleague who had always treated him well. Maybe that wasn't what it seemed, but it somehow ruined the character for me. I expect I'll be back, but if someone wants to tell me that that moment wasn't the betrayal it seemed to be, I'm all ears (Dresden was trying to get access to something that his Hispanic colleague was charged with guarding). Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 11:52 AM (oBPoz) 271
Snwe Crash was, to me, his best book by far!
To me his books got progressively worse. have not looked at one in 20 years. Spoiled I am. Read Heiinlein 60 years ago; Asimov 70 years ago. They were great. Mormon Kid wrote a book about a kid winning a war about 30 years ago; whichI liked a lot. But clearly not as much as Bob since I remember not book name not writer's! Ii grok Bob! Posted by: rodney stanton at April 14, 2024 11:52 AM (ohNOt) 272
Andy Serkis did The Silmarillion and he was most excellent. His fame (voice of Gollum) does not lend itself.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2024 11:54 AM (lhenN) 273
Thanks for the recommendation, She Hobbit! It's in my library queue.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 14, 2024 11:56 AM (3e3hy) 274
Another thing that has kept me from finishing books is the "you're not as funny as you think you are" phenomenon. Or, more charitably, the author's sense of humor is not compatible with mine. Or the author is flippantly dismissive of the actual story he is trying to tell, in an effort to be funny, which is a thing that should never be done, IMO.
This has kept me from enjoying Neil Gaiman and Douglas Adams at all. I enjoy Isaac Asimov's books and stories, but not when he is trying to be funny. Agatha Christie occasionally crossed this line, to the detriment of the work, as in The Big Four. Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2024 11:57 AM (oBPoz) 275
Interesting topic of discussion for listeners of audiobooks--do you have to like the reader to continue? How far in before you abandon a book because you don't like the narrator? And do you listen at regular speed, always, or do you accelerate it so you can listen to more books in limited time?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:58 AM Although a good reader can enhance the experience of an audiobook, a poor reader generally won't prevent me from finishing the book. The Sanderson in question is the only one that I bumped the speed up in hopes of getting through it faster. I normally listen at normal speed. I expect to do a lot more listening to audio books in the near future. I just sort of stopped when we all started working from home. Posted by: Cybersmythe at April 14, 2024 11:58 AM (iZEhM) 276
This twit literally wrote that the Spanish Civil War was caused by the scars of the Spanish Inquisition.
- Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 12:00 PM (FVME7) 277
I saw a YouTube about the making of the movie. Apparently, star Oskar Werner and director François Truffaut hated each other so much that Werner would sabotage the film by such acts as radical haircuts to create continuity problems. Yeah, shitting where you eat is always a good strategy!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 11:43 AM (FVME7) He as great in "The Spy Who Came In From The Cold". I always wanted a small scene where Mundt lines him up against the wall to be shot while the credits were rolling. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2024 12:03 PM (R/m4+) 278
Huh? The end of the Book Thread, again?! What's this world coming to? Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 14, 2024 12:05 PM (0eaVi) 279
There are certain audiobooks I would buy in a heartbeat if they existed. Shelby Foote reading his Civil War narrative is one.
Posted by: JTB at April 14, 2024 12:06 PM (zudum) 280
"Why has gold been a unique standard for money? "
In the West, perhaps. But in China, silver - and sometimes copper- was used as the standard. Money was either a small weighted lump or coin of silver. Copper coins also appeared from time to time as a second currency. But golf was never used. Posted by: junior at April 14, 2024 12:06 PM (PTw5h) 281
Nood Times.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 12:07 PM (ZF2NB) 282
But golf was never used.
Posted by: junior Glad to see you took a swing at it. Pure whiff though. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 14, 2024 12:08 PM (ZF2NB) 283
"Yumi was also a book I couldn't finish. I'm encouraged by the Perfesser's comments and a Sanderson fan so maybe try again. "
Ironically, of the four Kickstarter books, it's the one that I enjoyed the most. Posted by: junior at April 14, 2024 12:08 PM (PTw5h) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 14, 2024 12:09 PM (FVME7) 285
The Dresden files has the unusual distinction of being the only books that I can handle reading at a responsible pace. The writing and characters are good enough to just balance my dislike of urban fantasy, so I finish them without bingeing like I do with most books I like.
Posted by: Charlie at April 14, 2024 12:09 PM (Us+8Y) 286
🧠 ⛽️
Mind Fuel The series that didn't quite make it. An early (1996) webwork, a comic strip pondering creating a series, developing a character, self-publication, the transition from print 🖨 to digital, and touching on (hahaha) making money at it. An experiment in daily online comic stripping that didn't last long and ended with a pencil sketch. At the time, as the story shows, I was still thinking mostly in terms of printed works, not online webworks. The panels were too wide and file sizes too big (even with mere 16-color graphics) for the average Internet reader of those days, and as well, the computer tools at my disposal were discouraging. Still like the "three nephews" trope. Link in nic. Posted by: mindful webworker - comically at April 14, 2024 12:11 PM (YdVca) 287
@270 (Dresden was trying to get access to something that his Hispanic colleague was charged with guarding).
-------- I've read all of the Dresden novels, and I'm pretty sure I know which wizard you're referring to. But I don't remember a scene like that. Posted by: junior at April 14, 2024 12:12 PM (PTw5h) 288
Aw, man, that'd be heartbreaking. To loose a bookstore to low sales is one thing. To loose it just because their lease wasn't renewed.....Ouch.
Posted by: Castle Guy at April 14, 2024 10:41 AM (Lhaco) One would think that Barnes and Noble might have had an inkling the lease would not be renewed, and looked for an alternate location. I am guessing the lease must have been extremely favorable to B&N, and they realized that a new location at market rates for square footage would never be profitable. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 14, 2024 12:18 PM (tkR6S) 289
"Snow Crash" and Cryptonomicon" are the only Stephenson books I've finished. Some of the others are initially interesting but inevitably start to drag. Adrian McKinty has written an interesting series of six books about "The Troubles" in Northern Ireland during the 70s, 80s, & 90s. RUC policeman Sean Duffy is a Catholic peeler with an IRA bounty on him. He checks under his car for bombs before starting it. A lot of historical figures make appearances, i.e., John DeLorean, Patrick Kennedy. I learned a lot of Irish slang and swear words. Worth a read. Posted by: frankly at April 14, 2024 01:13 PM (ERjZP) 290
>>Interesting topic of discussion for listeners of audiobooks--do you have to like the reader to continue? Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 14, 2024 10:58 AM (OX9vb)
Yes! A bad one can make me quit in 3 minutes. Otoh I am binge-listening to the Rivers of London series right now because Kobna Holdbrook-Smith is so good at the accents and expressions of emotion. Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 14, 2024 01:17 PM (q2svT) 291
Books I haven’t finished, but not for lack of trying, several times:
The unabridged version of “Little Women” “The Satanic Veses” (I did get farther along in it than the friend who gave me the book. Kind of proud of that!) “A Portrait of the Artist As A Young Man” Worst book I ever read, and finished because I kept waiting for it to get better (it didn’t): “Wifey,” by Judy Blume. Posted by: March Hare at April 14, 2024 01:59 PM (jfX+U) 292
Books I just can't finish: Plutarch's Lives (sic). It's been on my nightstand for four or five years. And, it's one of the classics that "everyone" recommends. The half-page sentences with no discernable topic, coupled with the names I have no idea how to pronounce in my head (Wisconsin public school education) rendered this classic unreadable to me.
I was at the Truman Library on Tuesday this past week and Plutarch was displayed as one of Truman's favorites. Likewise, many Louis L'Amour characters had "Lives" as a foundation. I'm kinda disappointed in myself. Posted by: GR8RDave at April 14, 2024 02:12 PM (WQa1X) 293
I have read "Assassin's Apprentice" and mildly regret it. As far as I remember, there is nothing wrong with it, but it is mildly exploitative: the hero is an orphan and various injustices are done to it, the hero is discriminated against based on class and/or gender (I don't remember), when the hero believes he/she can rely on someone that support is withdrawn, and so on.
Each time, after the author has milked enough injustice thrills, something good happens at the last moment and the hero overcomes the current peril and lives to fight another day. I did not like this rather formulaic book. The author seemed to suffer from a lack of imagination. Posted by: PG at April 14, 2024 04:44 PM (gQbO4) 294
BOOKS I COULD NOT FINISH
Of other note are books that I could not finish, but later did -- indeed, even finding some of them finally compelling. One of particular note was "Dune." I tried it, and could not get into it. Somewhat later, I tried it again, and still could not get into it. I think it was on the third try that it finally 'clicked' with me, and I could scarcely put it down. And, of course, have since read all the sequels and most of the prequels as well. I couldn't finish the book; then I couldn't put it down. A similar story was with John LeCarre. "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" was highly recommended, but I absolutely could not get into it. After a few tries it finally worked, and ultimately found LeCarre to be a good writer for me. Not all of his works, but enough of them, such that I could give new releases a decent shot at them. But, yes, there are other books that I will never finish. Of top note is probably Rick Warren's "Purpose Driven Life." I made it through about 70% of it, but -- 'nuff said; I don't feel like getting into a theological argument today. Cheers! Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at April 14, 2024 04:55 PM (TOe+Q) Processing 0.03, elapsed 0.0308 seconds. |
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