A New Documentary Makes the Case That It Was the Tyrannical, Obsessive Incompetent Deborah Birx Who Pushed the Hardest For Shutdowns and Lockdowns

John Tierney at City Journal interviews Rob Montz, who just did a documentary called "It Wasn't Fauci: How the Deep State Played Trump."

Now, I know, the first part of that title isn't so promising.

But let's hear a little about Deborah Birx.

I've written a lot about these issues at City Journal, how these terrible measures were imposed against the longstanding advice of the best experts on dealing with pandemics and against the best scientific evidence about these measures. Now, this was, I think, the costliest and worst mistake ever made in the history of public health. Probably the worst public policy blunder ever made during peacetime in America. And like a lot of people, I've wondered, how could we be so stupid? Well, Rob answers that question in his new documentary, and the answer will be news to the many people who put all the blame on Anthony Fauci.
Now, there's no question that Fauci bears a lot of responsibility. He was the public face of Covid. He was the darling of the gullible reporters in the mainstream media who bought his version of "the science." And because his agency controlled so much of the research funding into infectious diseases, scientists depended on that funding, were afraid to contradict them, and therefore there was a silence from people who knew better. But as Rob shows in his documentary, it was another veteran federal bureaucrat who actually orchestrated these terrible measures and conned Donald Trump and the White House into going along with it. Her name is Deborah Birx. Could you tell us about her, Rob?

Montz talks about people not wanting to even think about covid any longer - and by "people," he means the people who were wrong about everything, or believed the people who were wrong about everything.

Rob Montz: ...
They don't really want to be told that it actually wasn't worth it at all. There was no nobility to it. The cousin of yours that died of a drug overdose didn't die for a good reason. The fact that your nine-year-old still can't read. It's not for any particularly good reason. The fact that you had to shutter your family business, there was no good reason. So people just want to move on, even though, as I'm sure your audience knows, there's been a lot of pretty rigorous investigations into the efficacy of the lockdowns, and they've essentially proven that they had no impact whatsoever on cases or death rates.

Would you be surprised to learn that Mike Pence shepherded Deborah Birx into power?

Rob Montz: And it's so funny because the ways that lockdowns became the default policy prescription in America, it's so pedestrian. It's like Alex Jones-style conspiracy theorizing has all these grand forces and complicated machinery and all these complex variables, but then you dig into how Birx got power and it's the most mundane thing imaginable, and the mistakes she made is the most mundane thing in imaginable, and that became the default policy prescription for nearly 400 million Americans. So she immediately, in the wake of Covid hitting American shores in 2019, early 2020, the White House forms a special Covid task force. Importantly, Trump gives Pence complete control of the task force. He essentially outsources the whole Covid task force portfolio to Pence. And as they're assembling this group, they're frantically looking around for a public health expert that can bring some level of scientific rigor to their policy prescriptions for the rest of the country. And through a complicated set of connections, someone within the Trump administration recommends Deborah Birx. Her background importantly is in fighting AIDS in Africa.

It turns out that a report on Birx's performance in "fighting AIDS" says that she was a disaster.

Rob Montz: And it comes out, and this thing, which is mostly based upon surveys with municipal and public health officials in African countries that have been working with Deborah Birx, is a barnburner of an indictment on her management and leadership. It's insane. I mean, anybody can read it. It's not difficult to find. It's just nobody did read it because nobody's curious about it.
John Tierney: Right. This is the first I've seen of it, and it really is a barn burner showing what a horrible administrator she was.
Rob Montz: Everyone's like, she's a dictator. She doesn't listen to feedback. She very quickly becomes myopically committed to a particular paradigm and doesn't change it based upon the facts on the ground. She's dictatorial.
John Tierney: Draws the wrong conclusions, you say?
Rob Montz: Yeah. She draws conclusions that lead down the wrong path. And this is the person who then gets brought up to be part of this elite group of, it's only like 10 people that are principals on the Covid task force, and she's the chief scientist on the task force. That's the woman. Somehow the mechanics of history are such that she's the person that gets to write the guidelines. And what she does, and again, I don't want to give away everything in the documentary, I want people to have a reason to go watch it, is she essentially makes this 75 IQ instinctual parallel between Covid and AIDS. She makes a certain set of assumptions that the Covid virus and HIV/AIDS virus are the same. And from those parallel assumptions come a certain set of policy prescriptions, including getting to zero cases at any cost, treating Covid as an equal opportunity killer, focusing on children and shutting down schools. This is all based on an HIV/AIDS paradigm.
John Tierney: Right, where every case is potentially fatal.
Rob Montz: Exactly. I don't know. This is not a hot contrarian take to be like, "Yo Covid's not like HIV/AIDS." Not at all. It's extremely different. They're radically different diseases. We get into a bunch of the particulars, not least of which, and again, it's still shocking how few Americans seem to appreciate this. It's mostly because of the thematic misinformation fed to them by the corporate establishment media, that there's this really, really sharp age gradient for Covid death where it's a serious disease if you're 74, and it's not a serious disease at all if you're 20. And that reality needs to be reflected in your policy interventions. And it wasn't. Then the central mystery also that we try to solve, Trump initially had okayed the lockdown and very famously cut off air transportation from China. He greenlit a couple weeks to slow the spread, and then a couple more weeks.

He talks about Trump coming out publicly against lockdowns, while his actual government continued to push them. He says Deborah Birx was the "linchpin" for the government going in an opposite direction from the president which supposedly led it.

With Mike Pence's help:

Rob Montz: But my reporting mostly indicates that she was able, Birx in particular, was able to systematically stymie and marginalized Atlas, not because of her close alliance with Fauci and Redfield, but because of her close alliance with Mike Pence. Remarkable, right?
John Tierney: And he really emerges as another villain. He was supposedly in charge of the task force, but he just bowed to her at every turn. He was afraid to stand up to her. Right?
Rob Montz: Well, it's not exactly, I don't really know his motivations. From a distance, before I'd gotten into this, he'd always struck me as the paradigmatic hollow man elected politician. He just seems like he was grown in a lab and is a soulless political automaton, and he just regurgitates on command GOP Christianist talking points. Are you even a person? Do you have a subjective experience of reality, or are you just a non-player character? So I don't really know what his motivations were. I don't really know.

Full interview at the link, of course.

Deborah Birx went to Mike Pence and asked for his permission to "continue to write the guidelines" for shutdowns and re-openings which would directly contradict Trump. Pence understood she intended to be insubordinate, and he granted her permission to do so.

Also a Birx Booster: Jared Kushner, who was terrified at the idea of breaking from the Fauci/Birx line.

The second half of the mini-doc is infuriating. If you don't watch the whole thing, make sure you start watching from around the 10:00 mark.

The documentary itself is only 25 minutes long and is linked below. Along with the New York Times waking up after three years and realizing hey, maybe the lockdowns hurt students, huh?

Wait until they hear about the suicide and drug overdose numbers in adults!

A growing body of research shows that pandemic school closures came at a steep cost to students. Data shows the more time students spent in remote instruction, the further they fell behind. https://t.co/96kMFd4Pun pic.twitter.com/tmqwSlV1kC
— The New York Times (@nytimes) March 18, 2024

New York Times publishes further data showing what is increasingly indisputable: Remote learning during Covid was a failure that did significant harm to children. https://t.co/wmCp9Z8uFR pic.twitter.com/bKV6OJIq7g
— AG (@AGHamilton29) March 19, 2024

Bonus: NPR: Did the so-called Deep State protect the country from Trump?

In other words: Did the Deep State stage a COUP that the establishment Regime approves of?

Answer: Yes.

DAVE DAVIES, HOST:
This is FRESH AIR. I'm Dave Davies, in for Terry Gross. A few years back, we started hearing about a sinister, unseen force threatening American progress. It was the deep state, an unnamed group of officials within the U.S. government that would always use their leverage in the federal bureaucracy to oppose change, either because the deep staters were wedded to ill-advised policies of the past or because they sought to protect their own power, status, salary and pensions. The menace of the deep state was an idea particularly propagated by backers of President Donald Trump.
Our guest, David Rothkopf, says if there is a deep state, we should probably be thanking rather than condemning it. His new book recounts many instances during the Trump administration when veteran government officials quietly intervened to undermine some of Trump's most troubling orders and policy initiatives, not because they threatened the officials' personal interests, but because they were illegal, unworkable, immoral or against the country's interests.

The Deep State decided that the policy agenda elected by the voting public was "against the country's interests," you say?

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:33 PM

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1 Afternoon.

OT

Reading...well, skimming...Jean-Paul Sartre's preface to Franz Fanon's Wretched Of The Earth and...man, dude's a fucking psychopath.

It does clarify something. If you ever wonder why the so-called "Decolonization" movement seems oddly intent on flooding Europe with non-natives it's because marxists view Europeans as the only ones with a need and a drive for colonization. All other peoples, apparently, don't. So "decolonization" is less about removing Europeans from places they previously colonized and more about the destruction of European civilization and its people. In other words, mass murder and genocide. More succinctly, kill whitey.

But we all knew marxism is nothing but an intellectual exercise to justify orgiastic violence.

Also, fuck Birx and Fauci.

Posted by: Robert at April 05, 2024 05:35 PM (1Yy3c)

2 Sponge

Posted by: Bete at April 05, 2024 05:35 PM (LX4y3)

3 Faultless Faci and friends are getting the band back together just in time for election 2024...

"Chicken-Pig flu"

//Broink Broink-the flying pig

Posted by: sven at April 05, 2024 05:35 PM (X0I7i)

4 Only white people have a need for colonization. Someone hasn't seen the history of Islam.

Posted by: Bete at April 05, 2024 05:36 PM (LX4y3)

5 At least the palace coup worked out alright in Afghanistan.

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 05, 2024 05:38 PM (vtyCZ)

6 They say hindsight is 20/20 but in this case even my foresight could read the bottom line.

Posted by: fd at April 05, 2024 05:38 PM (vFG9F)

7 Tyrannical, Obsessive Incompetent Deborah Birx
____

She always dressed so well, and had the nicest scarves!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 05, 2024 05:38 PM (fs1hN)

8 >> She always dressed so well, and had the nicest scarves!

The scarves were to cover up that neck. My God, that neck....

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 05, 2024 05:39 PM (w6EFb)

9 I have a cousin whose son overdosed/committed suicide around Halloween 2020. Even then I knew it wasn't worth it.

Posted by: InZona at April 05, 2024 05:41 PM (E+mhF)

10 I just finished this film earlier today. Watch the whole thing: it is short, damning, and worth every minute of your attention.

The film documents the coup, using direct quotes and specific documentary statements. America is governed by an illegal force, just as Trump claims.

Donald Trump for President. Philip Hamburger for SCOTUS. The Grim Reaper for the Administrative State.

Posted by: The Frumious Follywood at April 05, 2024 05:41 PM (xcNAP)

11 On February 27, 2020, Vice President Mike Pence appointed Birx to the position of White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator.

Birx led the creation of a reopening plan presented by Trump on April 16, 2020, with voluntary standards for states to end coronavirus lockdowns.[31]

Jul 17, 2022
Dr. Deborah Birx admits being deceitful when recommending Covid strategies to Trump "I couldn't do anything that would reveal my true intention," she writes, "to use the travel ban as one brick
in the construction of a larger wall of protective measures we needed to enact very soon."

https://tinyurl.com/ymbv7mcc

George W. Bush Institute
In March 2021, Birx joined the George W. Bush Institute in Dallas, Texas, as a senior fellow, working on initiatives
to reduce health disparities and prepare for future pandemics.[58][59][60][61]

Career health officials like Dr. Deborah Birx circumvented Trump's instructions to moderate COVID lockdowns.
Environmental Protection Agency lawyers pursued cases against fossil fuel producers and withheld the information from Trump appointees.

https://tinyurl.com/y2w27efc

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 05, 2024 05:41 PM (vtyCZ)

12 Pence again. Hopefully he wasn't ever alone with Birx.

Posted by: nckate at April 05, 2024 05:41 PM (nUPKW)

13 Are they trying to deflect blame from saint fauci with this article? Because I can't believe grandma neck scarf had the balls to push all of the lock down garbage and make it stick.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 05, 2024 05:42 PM (QNSds)

14 Cigarettes. Blindfolds. Cinder block wall. Firing squads.

I will gladly volunteer to be that guy, under the law, to administer justice to the evil entities we have within our so-called medical community.

A significant number of people have died needlessly because of the COVID hysteria.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 05, 2024 05:42 PM (WtvCN)

15 Team scarf!

Posted by: I miss Rush at April 05, 2024 05:43 PM (dg+HA)

16 6 It isn't helped that no one who was for it at the time seems to want to admit they were wrong, just lead astray by certain voices or "science". Cause admitting wring is worse than any of the negatives that people experienced.

Posted by: Bete at April 05, 2024 05:43 PM (LX4y3)

17 not because they threatened the officials' personal interests, but because they were illegal, unworkable, immoral or against the country's interests.

They make is sound like the secretary from a 90's sitcom telling their boss they can't import tigers to protect their building because it's against the law. In reality it feels like it was more "you can't close off travel to China because that's where our orders come from".

Posted by: Flyguy at April 05, 2024 05:44 PM (OYxA4)

18 Would you be surprised to learn that Mike Pence shepherded Deborah Birx into power?

So Mike Pence was really Mike Ponce?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 05, 2024 05:44 PM (ynpvh)

19 Pence again. Hopefully he wasn't ever alone with Birx.
Posted by: nckate at April 05, 2024 05:41 PM (nUPKW)

He wouldn't know what to do if he had been.

Once more it must be said: We've got a government that runs on blackmail. His sex perversions keep him doing what he's told.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 05, 2024 05:44 PM (dGCAG)

20 Wait until they hear about the suicide and drug overdose numbers in adults!

Wait until they hear about the payback is a bitch numbers...

Posted by: Diogenes at April 05, 2024 05:44 PM (W/lyH)

21 It was Fauci all along...

Posted by: runner at April 05, 2024 05:44 PM (V13WU)

22 I was always very suspicious of AIDS in Africa, because it seemed to perfectly fit the AIDS alarmists need to get second wind funding after the initial wave of homosexuals got it and died off.

Sure, a homosexual disease is just rife a long way away where it is impossible to measure and it will take millions to pretend to solve! Lets cut more checks for the next 10 years!

And there never did seem to be this huge wave of deaths happen there either.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 05:44 PM (eoQWY)

23 The Deep State decided that the policy agenda elected by the voting public was "against the country's interests," you say?

The people, what do they know?

Posted by: nameless unelected bureaucrat at April 05, 2024 05:45 PM (VGOMa)

24 And under-20s weren't being affected by, let alone dying of, WuFlu at all. [Ten dead in Ontario over all 1.75 lockdown years spread evenly throughout all of the age cohorts.]

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 05, 2024 05:45 PM (vtyCZ)

25 Are they trying to deflect blame from saint fauci with this article? Because I can't believe grandma neck scarf had the balls to push all of the lock down garbage and make it stick.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 05, 2024 05:42 PM (QNSds)
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Different crimes: Fauci designed Covid, paid for it, and designated Wuhan to build it, all through EcoHealth, while Birx shut the country down and led the White House staff in rebelling against Trump policies on how to deal with the pandemic impact.

Posted by: The Frumious Follywood at April 05, 2024 05:45 PM (xcNAP)

26 I just hope I don't catch that birdbrain flu.

Posted by: fd at April 05, 2024 05:45 PM (vFG9F)

27 Would you be surprised to learn that Mike Pence shepherded Deborah Birx into power?

So Mike Pence was really Mike Ponce?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 05, 2024 05:44 PM

Mike Pence was George HW Bush if George HW Bush was somehow less qualified for the job.

Posted by: Flyguy at April 05, 2024 05:46 PM (OYxA4)

28 I'm sure this is normally the case for an R president, but it does seem like Trump had nearly everyone in the executive branch working against him. It doesn't help that so many R's also stabbed him (us) in the back.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 05, 2024 05:46 PM (fs1hN)

29 19 or alternatively, Pence is exactly the GoPe tool many thought he was when picked as VP, and no blackmail is required to have a snake act like a snake.

Posted by: Bete at April 05, 2024 05:46 PM (LX4y3)

30 I blame Evil Dr Fauci mostly, but Dr Scarf has a lot of blame as well

Posted by: Skip at April 05, 2024 05:46 PM (fwDg9)

31 Are they trying to deflect blame from saint fauci with this article? Because I can't believe grandma neck scarf had the balls to push all of the lock down garbage and make it stick.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 05, 2024 05:42 PM (QNSds)

Lockdowns were decided in 2015, with the wargaming that took place then, to plan the pandemic.

Fauci was there, but only as a signal to the globalist oligarchs that he'd keep fedgov in line for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 05, 2024 05:47 PM (dGCAG)

32 ...when veteran government officials quietly intervened to undermine some of Trump's most troubling orders and policy initiatives, not because they threatened the officials' personal interests, but because they were illegal, unworkable, immoral or against the country's interests.

As for illegal, there's a white house attorney as well as an Attorney General to keep the President straight. As for the rest, piss off Rothkoph, whoever the eff you are. You don't choose for me what is unworkable, immoral or against my interest.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 05, 2024 05:48 PM (W/lyH)

33 I never could figure out why Governor Mike "Race Bannon" Pence got the VP job. Now, I know. He was the Trojan horse.

Posted by: huerfano at April 05, 2024 05:48 PM (VGOMa)

34 All other peoples, apparently, don't. So "decolonization" is less about removing Europeans from places they previously colonized and more about the destruction of European civilization and its people.

Also, fuck Birx and Fauci.
Posted by: Robert at April 05, 2024 05:35 PM (1Yy3c)

European civilization has been dead for a while, longer than the recent idiocy of importing underclasses. Frankly the Nigerian and other imports I see in London on shows seem far more rational than the while liberals.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 05:48 PM (eoQWY)

35 Pence was tasked with the covid response and election integrity. I suspect sabotage.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 05, 2024 05:48 PM (m3FnN)

36 Oh, no! Deborah Brix!

Posted by: Kim Jong Il at April 05, 2024 05:48 PM (Wnv9h)

37 "I will gladly volunteer to be that guy..."

Take a number. Back of the line is (points waaaayyy over there).

Posted by: PabloD at April 05, 2024 05:49 PM (RhJqb)

38 Pence was Trump's pick to be the "COVID Tsar." Brix was Fauci's choice. IIRC.

It was an op. So who knows.

*however....

Trump's penchant for giving chicks some power was likely in play.

As evidenced by some of his female appointees.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 05, 2024 05:50 PM (Q4IgG)

39 illegal, unworkable, immoral or against the country's interests.
____

Cite details, fockers. I'm not trusting any of your judgements as to what is illegal, unworkable, immoral or against the country's interests.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 05, 2024 05:50 PM (fs1hN)

40 I have no doubt that Brix and Fauci played a big hand in creating the disaster in the US but I'd like to know more about how virtually the same policies were enacted in almost ever western nation. I think the WHO was a lot more involved than we are being told.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 05, 2024 05:51 PM (LkLld)

41 It really pisses me off when people I generally agree with excuse the catastrophic Covid response as a “mistake” or “blunder.” It was not.

It was a deliberate lie and scam to force people under the boot of tyranny, make Pfizer and its remoras piles of dirty money, and steal an election. It accomplished everything its evil proponents sought to accomplish, and then some.

To be sure, it’s fair to characterize the conduct of Trump and DeathSantis — and indeed every Republican other than Noem — in falling for this scam as a mistake. They weren’t in on the scam. They were played by the “experts.” Some realized this sooner than others.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 05, 2024 05:51 PM (IyWcq)

42 And under-20s weren't being affected by, let alone dying of, WuFlu at all. [Ten dead in Ontario over all 1.75 lockdown years spread evenly throughout all of the age cohorts.]
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 05, 2024 05:45 PM (vtyCZ)

And given the zeal for attributing deaths as Covid if you had the word written in a slip of paper in your pocket that was going on, it was probably less than that.

About a year after the wave hospitals in CA were dowgrading their covid deaths down from a quarter to a third across the board.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 05:51 PM (eoQWY)

43 Embrace the Power of AND!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2024 05:51 PM (Hkcdp)

44 15 Team scarf!
Posted by: I miss Rush at April 05, 2024 05:43 PM (dg+HA)

I’ll be the designated driver …

Posted by: zombie Isadora Duncan at April 05, 2024 05:52 PM (TTAGa)

45 When someone says, "then COVID happened," every member of my family responds in unison, "COVID didn't happen; tyrannical government happened"

Posted by: Oglebay at April 05, 2024 05:52 PM (ogTiX)

46 So we're at the, "yes they're real and they're spectacular!" part in the conspiracy theory evolution with regards to the deep state.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 05, 2024 05:52 PM (Y6IkP)

47
So, Fauci funded the research that developed the pestilence, while Birx imposed the draconian measures that strangled the economy and peoples' spirits?

* ponders this *

"Guilty" for both. Public execution for committing treasonous acts against the People of the United States. Sell tickets AND broadcast it across ALL media channels. Justice demands no less.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 05, 2024 05:52 PM (xG4kz)

48 Does this scarf make my butt look big? Anyway, let them eat ventilators!

Posted by: DOCTOR Birx at April 05, 2024 05:53 PM (V8he0)

49 I remember her in May and beyond at the Trump briefings using charts and graphs to show data she was looking at to try tofigure out transmission rates and vectors and the like. It was data from selected counties, not states or nationwide, counties she personally selected for a ???? reason. I am an engineer and it didn't take me long to realize she was immersed in and blinded by the sketchy data of COVID cases and deaths from various counties nationwide. Or maybe her focus on county-level data was part of her act, to appear to be an expert for the rubes.

I'm sure she had a data analysis mumbo-jumbo routine that would impress and confuse most non-scientists and non-doctors. In other words, politicians and all of the media ninnies.

Posted by: Gref at April 05, 2024 05:53 PM (5fDan)

50 They both are doomed to Hell I think

Posted by: Skip at April 05, 2024 05:53 PM (fwDg9)

51 Team scarf!
Posted by: I miss Rush at April 05, 2024 05:43 PM (dg+HA)

I’ll be the designated driver …
Posted by: zombie Isadora Duncan at April 05, 2024 05:52 PM

Ouch, baby. Very ouch.

Posted by: Austin 'Danger' Powers at April 05, 2024 05:54 PM (Wnv9h)

52 when veteran government officials quietly intervened to undermine some of Trump's most troubling orders and policy initiatives, not because they threatened the officials' personal interests, but because they were illegal, unworkable, immoral or against the country's interests.

You mean like not funding Iran's terroristic and nuclear ambitions? Like securing the border?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 05, 2024 05:54 PM (ynpvh)

53 I'd forgotten what shit Fresh Air is. One of the benefits of moving to NC is that the public radio station is not NPR. This may be had to believe, but it's all classical music.

In Richmond, the Marx:Mozart ratio was at least 10:1, here it's 0.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 05, 2024 05:54 PM (1bNHn)

54 There was an interesting article years ago. Maybe in Scientific American before they got crazy. Researchers from Europe and America came up with guidelines to limit AIDS in Africa that ignored the fact that much of Africa did not have a monogamous culture. Not understanding that your aids carrier is banging half a dozen people in a given month and probably skipping a condom as the way to pretend they weren't sleeping around was a recipe for failure.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 05, 2024 05:55 PM (wTs+0)

55 "not because they threatened the officials' personal interests, but because they were illegal, unworkable, immoral or against the country's interests."

No, because they threatened the officials personal interest.

The truth is always stated first before the smirking lie is deployed to squid-ink up what was first confessed...

Posted by: Boswell at April 05, 2024 05:55 PM (K+UlC)

56 Hadn't read all the above, but the rule is -
- first comment, then read.

Birx admitted some time a ago that the "Two Weeks" was never intended to last just two weeks but to get the foot in the door and always wanted an indefinite lockdown.

Unfortunately there were a lot a Birx curiuos amonst the hoard as she always presented herself as some sort of moderate while pushing for a totalitarian police state.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 05, 2024 05:55 PM (cOq4q)

57 DAVIES: You know, as I looked over your [ROTHKOPF's] background and your career, it occurred to me that if anyone might be accused of being too cozy with the deep state, it would be somebody with your history.

Yeah, well, Deep Stater's gonna deepstate.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 05, 2024 05:55 PM (ynpvh)

58 Send the entire npr crew to Haiti.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2024 05:56 PM (63Dwl)

59 Isn’t Faici very active/big within WHO?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2024 05:56 PM (Hkcdp)

60 I'm also tired of hearing people use the word "pandemic."
It wasn't. I think they just want to give themselves credit for surviving some sort of epic historical event.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 05, 2024 05:57 PM (dg+HA)

61 I have no doubt that Brix and Fauci played a big hand in creating the disaster in the US but I'd like to know more about how virtually the same policies were enacted in almost ever western nation. I think the WHO was a lot more involved than we are being told.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 05, 2024 05:51 PM (LkLld)

Given the penchant for groupthink in our modern 'elites' it might have been just everyone picking up on the chance to do some Nazi cosplaying. There certainly was variety even in the US with NYC going after the Jews, the housing of sick people with healthy. Australia had the dog murders. New Zealand had its own twists. Sweden somehow avoided all of it, which a global plot probably would have avoided.

It might be comforting to think that it was a well conceived plot from a few evil people, but probably it just that every one of the elites has their own fantasy of control, force and murder in their heads to spill out when the chance comes.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 05:57 PM (eoQWY)

62 "Guilty" for both. Public execution for committing treasonous acts against the People of the United States. Sell tickets AND broadcast it across ALL media channels. Justice demands no less."

Put me down for six.

You take a personal check?

Posted by: Ju at April 05, 2024 05:57 PM (aTmM/)

63 Birx is the AWFL queen.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 05, 2024 05:57 PM (2UnvF)

64 Send the entire npr crew to Haiti.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2024 05:56 PM

Don't tease.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 05, 2024 05:57 PM (Wnv9h)

65 I'm also tired of hearing people use the word "pandemic."
____

plandemic

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 05, 2024 05:58 PM (fs1hN)

66 So it wasn't Fauci who came up with COVID policy; it was just Fauci who cooked up the g*dd*mned virus in the first place.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at April 05, 2024 05:58 PM (GD2xa)

67 I think the WHO was a lot more involved than we are being told.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 05, 2024 05:51 PM (LkLld)

We won’t be fooled again …

Posted by: zombie Keith Moon at April 05, 2024 05:58 PM (TTAGa)

68 I’ve asked this before, but please indulge me; name a single Trump policy that was dangerous for the American people? I get that he runs people the wrong way, but I can’t think of something he did that made my life harder when he was in office

Posted by: UGAdawg at April 05, 2024 05:59 PM (tRd71)

69 54 There was an interesting article years ago. Maybe in Scientific American before they got crazy. Researchers from Europe and America came up with guidelines to limit AIDS in Africa that ignored the fact that much of Africa did not have a monogamous culture. Not understanding that your aids carrier is banging half a dozen people in a given month and probably skipping a condom as the way to pretend they weren't sleeping around was a recipe for failure.
Posted by: PaleRider at April 05, 2024 05:55 PM (wTs+0)
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Yep, and that "non-monogamous culture" exactly parallels the culture that exists in the gay communities, especially in large cities in the West. They fuck each other with reckless abandon and without any sort of protection.

Then our Betters in Science stand around scratching their heads about why HIV/AIDS is really only still prevalent in two places: Africa and among gay men.

Posted by: ballistic at April 05, 2024 05:59 PM (oqH4h)

70 It's like Alex Jones-style conspiracy theorizing has all these grand forces and complicated machinery and all these complex variables

I used to write him off as just a crank. Then he tuned out to be right. A lot. Then I saw the machinery of the state being used to destroy him. I view him differently as a result.

Posted by: Strange days indeed at April 05, 2024 05:59 PM (pFhjh)

71 I just hope I don't catch that birdbrain flu.
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Stay away from Texas cows then!

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 05, 2024 06:00 PM (vtyCZ)

72
Gettin' some mild aftershocks here in SE PA.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 05, 2024 06:00 PM (RKVpM)

73 To finish up the Lincoln conspiracy treason trials there was a gallows built in Washington that hung six or so of them (one was an innocent woman IIRC).

ANYWAY, this could happen again except the D.C. jurors are fortified against Republicans. But one could dream.

Perhaps they can be swayed if shown the disease unleashed on us killed people of color at a rate double that of white people and attacked the elderly at a rate ten times the rest of the population.

Fauci funded the diseases production. Brix merely made its effects more deadly. The killing was baked in the cake.

Posted by: torabora at April 05, 2024 06:01 PM (QXKI2)

74 Stay away from Texas cows then!
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 05, 2024 06:00 PM

*contemplates lost BBQ opportunities*

I'll risk it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 05, 2024 06:01 PM (Wnv9h)

75 Yup. I can report aftershocks in libtardville USA.

Posted by: ... at April 05, 2024 06:02 PM (lX8VI)

76 40 Posted by: JackStraw at April 05, 2024 05:51 PM (LkLld)

Oct 7 basically sealed the deal for me Jack, the UN and IONGO matrix is part of an anti-democracy Anti-Anglosphere conspiracy to enact a "global order."

The IO-NGO antics on behalf of Hezbollah and backing CUOMO19 have completely turned me on the members of that class of "servant."

Posted by: sven at April 05, 2024 06:02 PM (X0I7i)

77 The NPR fresh air episode sounds like it was cribbed from a recent NY Times editorial:

"It Turns Out the ‘Deep State’ Is Actually Kind of Awesome"
By Adam Westbrook and Lindsay Crouse•March 19, 2024
Meet the unsung heroes making our country great.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 05, 2024 06:02 PM (ogTiX)

78 "The Deep State decided that the policy agenda elected by the voting public was "against the country's interests," you say?"

If you haven't guessed yet, the title of Rothkopf's book is "American Resistance."

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:02 PM (MvF+J)

79 Covid facts:

President Trump initiated the fast track vaccine development.

President Trump had multiple emergency portable hospitals erected that were never used!

President Trump had two maybe three hospital ships docked on either coast of the US that were never used.

Instead of availing President Trumps quarantine facilities NY Gov Cuomo housed Covid patients with fragile seniors that resulted in multiple deaths.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at April 05, 2024 06:03 PM (pqOO2)

80 Staying cooped up in a house was a sure way to make sure everyone caught the disease.

Posted by: torabora at April 05, 2024 06:03 PM (QXKI2)

81 Just had a small aftershock here in NY...very small but noticeable...

Posted by: Boswell at April 05, 2024 06:03 PM (K+UlC)

82 When my BIL got covid bad his PC doctor told him to go to the hospital and do not let them check you in. His doctor had ordered the IV treatment for him and told him to not let them do anything but that. When he got to the hospital they tried to check him in and put him on a ventilator, luckily he kept refusing and after about 3 hours they did the IV treatment and he left.

Pretty sure he would have been dead if they checked him in and put him on a ventilator.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 05, 2024 06:03 PM (QNSds)

83 It does clarify something. If you ever wonder why the so-called "Decolonization" movement seems oddly intent on flooding Europe with non-natives it's because marxists view Europeans as the only ones with a need and a drive for colonization.
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Marxists are actually the ultimate colonizer. Look what they've done to all the organizations, entertainment, news, insurance, law, politics, health etc

Posted by: ... at April 05, 2024 06:03 PM (lX8VI)

84 Deep State is far more widespread than most imagined when a mere Lt Colonel Bearclaw can subvert the President's foreign policy. He should have been busted down to E-1.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 05, 2024 06:05 PM (cOq4q)

85 ANYWAY, this could happen again except the D.C. jurors are fortified against Republicans. But one could dream.
____

I will vote for a candidate that can deliver on returning DC to Maryland except for whatever includes the Capitol and WH. And will fire the entire DC court system and set up a lottery for cases that would have otherwise gone to DC circuit.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 05, 2024 06:05 PM (fs1hN)

86 Deep State is far more widespread than most imagined when a mere Lt Colonel Bearclaw can subvert the President's foreign policy. He should have been busted down to E-1.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 05, 2024 06:05 PM (cOq4q)
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Is there such a thing as E-0?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 05, 2024 06:06 PM (DeFcY)

87 Earthquakes are actually 'beforeshocks.' 'Aftershocks' are the actual earthquakes themselves. This faulty nomenclature was discovered too late for geologists to correct it, so it lives on. That's the way they roll.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:06 PM (MvF+J)

88 Marxists are actually the ultimate colonizer. Look what they've done to all the organizations, entertainment, news, insurance, law, politics, health etc
Posted by: ... at April 05, 2024 06:03 PM (lX8VI)
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Just like government, they HATE competition, especially when the competitors' policies actually WORK.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 05, 2024 06:06 PM (BpYfr)

89 To finish up the Lincoln conspiracy treason trials there was a gallows built in Washington that hung six or so of them (one was an innocent woman IIRC).
-------
Stella Mudd??

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 05, 2024 06:06 PM (vtyCZ)

90 It really pisses me off when people I generally agree with excuse the catastrophic Covid response as a “mistake” or “blunder.” It was not.

Posted by: Elric Blade

>Guess what's next. It's up to a younger generation to stay on top of this shit and to prevent it from happening again.

This is probably one of the greatest failures of human judgement in history, because it was a global event.

In a sane world, it should never be allowed to happen again.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 05, 2024 06:06 PM (WtvCN)

91 Don't recall seeing a flaming skull yet this year. Has it been retired?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 05, 2024 06:07 PM (Dm8we)

92 And remember Birx traveled despite her anti travel rules and then had a stupid shit excuse about it. "Family"

Like that bitch is the only person with family.

Posted by: ... at April 05, 2024 06:07 PM (lX8VI)

93
Wenda, if you are here, I posted two responses regarding hemochromatosis -- 281 and 288 -- in the GAINZZZZ thread. Mrs KvC has it and has been managing it for about a decade.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 05, 2024 06:09 PM (xG4kz)

94 I was very surprised President seemed naive when choosing his cabinet also some of his decisions based on info from his advisors turned sour.

Deep state to Trump:
You fucked up! You trusted us!!!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at April 05, 2024 06:09 PM (pqOO2)

95 Say what you will, Debbie Brix was hot., the perfect counterweight to tat wormy little pigmy Fouchy.

Posted by: Eromero at April 05, 2024 06:10 PM (o2ZRX)

96 Quakes and aftershocks? Meh, just a warmup to April 8th. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 05, 2024 06:10 PM (V8he0)

97
Stella Mudd??
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ)

Mary Surratt, the landlady.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 05, 2024 06:10 PM (xG4kz)

98 And the word quarantine was used when the proper term is "house arrest."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 05, 2024 06:10 PM (dg+HA)

99 The deep state played off of Trump's viral phobia. He is
suspected or having Nosophobia... afraid of contracting disease.

It's not as bad as some, but it is a contributing factor to the covid op.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 05, 2024 06:10 PM (Q4IgG)

100
87 Earthquakes are actually 'beforeshocks.' 'Aftershocks' are the actual earthquakes themselves. This faulty nomenclature was discovered too late for geologists to correct it, so it lives on. That's the way they roll.
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:06 PM (MvF+J)

It's written in stone.

This is a website that shows all the earthquakes. You have to scroll down to find the NJ one.

https://tinyurl.com/yc5mjrtc

Posted by: Just Lily at April 05, 2024 06:11 PM (RLLZj)

101 I always thought Birx was the level headed one.

In the end they are all terrible

Posted by: blaster at April 05, 2024 06:12 PM (IFNME)

102 To finish up the Lincoln conspiracy treason trials there was a gallows built in Washington that hung six or so of them (one was an innocent woman IIRC).
-------
Stella Mudd??
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 05, 2024 06:06 PM (vtyCZ)

Mary Surratt. Mudd was the doctor who supposedly innocently set Booth's broken leg and got some prison time until he worked hard to fight a disease outbreak in the prison and was freed.

I haven't done a ton of reading on Surratt's case but I don't see a lot of evidence that she was innocent aside from being 'just a woman'. Certainly her boarding house was in use by the conspirators for a long time, and for spying and smuggling across the lines for a long time before that.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 06:12 PM (eoQWY)

103 Has the earthquake been blamed on fracking yet?

Posted by: nckate at April 05, 2024 06:12 PM (nUPKW)

104
Of the four woodpiles on my property two of them had wood knocked over. I'm either a sloppy wood stacker or there was a whole lotta shakin' goin' on.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 05, 2024 06:12 PM (RKVpM)

105 I don't need new reasons to despise Dr. Scarf.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 05, 2024 06:12 PM (w6EFb)

106 Is it worse than SuperStormSandy?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 05, 2024 06:12 PM (dg+HA)

107 Point of clarification:
Brix didn't just set the response for the US.
What the US did, the world followed.

She now sits as second only to Rachel Carson in causing the most human deaths and miserly.
Carson may likely never be overtaken as her false science continues to kill needlessly tens of thousands even decades later.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 05, 2024 06:13 PM (yikga)

108 Heh, called Mike Pence an NPC.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 05, 2024 06:13 PM (cOq4q)

109 From all I read on websites , and conclude myself it was a massive plot to destroy Trump and Western civilization

Posted by: Skip at April 05, 2024 06:13 PM (fwDg9)

110 "veteran government officials quietly intervened to undermine some of Trump's most troubling orders and policy initiatives, not because they threatened the officials' personal interests, but because they were illegal, unworkable, immoral or against the country's interests."

They need to be very specific, or it is just a broad brush smear ... as is typical for the criminal Deep State. MAGA threatens the DeepState grifters and saboteurs. Draining the Swamp is a direct threat on the oligarchy.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 05, 2024 06:13 PM (Cus5s)

111 Is there such a thing as E-0?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 05, 2024 06:06 PM
We used to call them draft evaders

Posted by: Eromero at April 05, 2024 06:13 PM (o2ZRX)

112 At he time the CDC was recommending, the evacuations and shutdowns. after that the President had little choice but the actual recommendation came from local governments.

Posted by: vic at April 05, 2024 06:14 PM (A5THL)

113 The video destroys any claim that Pence really was a sincere, honorable man just trying to fulfill his sworn Constitutional duty.

Posted by: Half Dozen at April 05, 2024 06:14 PM (wSMaH)

114
I will vote for a candidate that can deliver on returning DC to Maryland except for whatever includes the Capitol and WH.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

This, so much this. Maryland is presently a lost cause vis-a-vis booting Dims out of office.

What we so not need is the 51st state of Washington, Didn't Earn It.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 05, 2024 06:14 PM (xG4kz)

115 I haven't done a ton of reading on Surratt's case but I don't see a lot of evidence that she was innocent aside from being 'just a woman'. Certainly her boarding house was in use by the conspirators for a long time, and for spying and smuggling across the lines for a long time before that.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 06:12 PM (eoQWY)
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Also, her son was one of the conspirators.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 05, 2024 06:14 PM (DeFcY)

116 The media idiocy continues. I just heard a reporter list what he called the 'median average' age of Senators and Congressmen.

Top. Idiots.

Posted by: Gref at April 05, 2024 06:14 PM (5fDan)

117 103 I saw an article that said NY rocks are extra hard, so their puny quakes feel bigger than they really are. Everybody else's rocks are soft.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:14 PM (MvF+J)

118 Fauci screwed up the AIDS response. He favored big pharma until Larry Kramer turned Fauci into his poodle by protesting. He did the same crap with COVID only this time he had help from other scientists and the media to shut down dissent. Birx is bureaucratic scum but Fauci is bureaucratic scum king

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 05, 2024 06:15 PM (ixVYR)

119 The deep state played off of Trump's viral phobia. He is
suspected or having Nosophobia... afraid of contracting disease.

It's not as bad as some, but it is a contributing factor to the covid op.
--
Tucker Carlson, driving 100mpg overnight to haraung and browbeat Trump into aceeding to the overreactions.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 05, 2024 06:15 PM (yikga)

120 So the past few years of madness were the result of a low-IQ grandma on a power trip who seemed more interested in how you could embroider your face mask than in whether it did any good?

Sounds about right.

Posted by: Dr. T at April 05, 2024 06:16 PM (g0Y4p)

121 If remote learning didn't screw them up enought, they came back to Trannies in the libraries and classrooms.

Posted by: TC at April 05, 2024 06:16 PM (cHOHf)

122 A median average?
How very, ultra- unique!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2024 06:16 PM (Hkcdp)

123 The buck stops here.

Posted by: Harry Truman at April 05, 2024 06:16 PM (9X60i)

124 ‘ Did the Deep State stage a COUP that the establishment Regime approves of?

Answer: Yes.’

By all means, keep shoveling tax dollars to these cock gobblers.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 05, 2024 06:17 PM (roH4R)

125 123 The buck stops here.

Posted by: Harry Truman at April 05, 2024 06:16 PM (9X60i)

!0% of all the bucks stop here.

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 05, 2024 06:18 PM (5fDan)

126 A median average?
How very, ultra- unique!!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2024 06:16 PM (Hkcdp)
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It's super-duper sciency-sounding!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 05, 2024 06:18 PM (DeFcY)

127 Geologists screwed the pooch with the name "crust" too. It's technically a "rind."

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:18 PM (MvF+J)

128 I wouldn't call Birx incompetent. She succeeded wildly in what she set out to do.

Now, if she was trying to protect the health and interests of American citizens, then she was spectacularly incompetent.

Posted by: Emmie at April 05, 2024 06:19 PM (xAC7C)

129 Geologists screwed the pooch with the name "crust" too. It's technically a "rind."
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:18 PM (MvF+J)
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"Crust" sounds more delicious.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 05, 2024 06:19 PM (DeFcY)

130 I think there’s a lot of room to blame CHYNA, too

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2024 06:20 PM (Hkcdp)

131 So, yet again Trump picked the worst person possible to run a function and the results were horrendous.

Good thing he's you're only choice in the upcoming rigged election.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at April 05, 2024 06:20 PM (433Il)

132 '"Crust" sounds more delicious.'

The deception is thus doubly cruel.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:20 PM (MvF+J)

133 I saw an article that said NY rocks are extra hard, so their puny quakes feel bigger than they really are. Everybody else's rocks are soft.
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:14 PM (MvF+J)

Why do I feel like that's just another case of New Yorkers making up crap to fuel their fragile egos?

Posted by: Dr. T at April 05, 2024 06:20 PM (g0Y4p)

134 Deborah Birx went to Mike Pence and asked for his permission to "continue to write the guidelines" for shutdowns and re-openings which would directly contradict Trump. Pence understood she intended to be insubordinate, and he granted her permission to do so.

need I copy and paste more

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 05, 2024 06:21 PM (ENQN6)

135 Haven't heard bupkiss about some of the lawsuits that were filed.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 05, 2024 06:21 PM (m3FnN)

136 Rob Montz: ... He just seems like he was grown in a lab and is a soulless political automaton, and he just regurgitates on command GOP Christianist talking points. Are you even a person? Do you have a subjective experience of reality, or are you just a non-player character?

Best description of Pence I've read so far. A hollow man with no true convictions except to kneecap Trump.

Posted by: Cheri at April 05, 2024 06:21 PM (oiNtH)

137 127 Geologists screwed the pooch with the name "crust" too. It's technically a "rind."

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:18 PM (MvF+J)

Now do 'craton'

Posted by: Gref at April 05, 2024 06:21 PM (5fDan)

138 133 Then it turned out the epicenter was in f'n Jersey.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:22 PM (MvF+J)

139 89 To finish up the Lincoln conspiracy treason trials there was a gallows built in Washington that hung six or so of them (one was an innocent woman IIRC).
-------
Stella Mudd??

she shouldn't have trusted normal to coordinate

Posted by: anachronda at April 05, 2024 06:22 PM (v3pYe)

140 I wouldn't call Birx incompetent. She succeeded wildly in what she set out to do.

Now, if she was trying to protect the health and interests of American citizens, then she was spectacularly incompetent.
Posted by: Emmie at April 05, 2024 06:19 PM (xAC7C)

Threadwinner.

Posted by: Dr. T at April 05, 2024 06:22 PM (g0Y4p)

141 I was very surprised President seemed naive when choosing his cabinet also some of his decisions based on info from his advisors turned sour.overreaction.
---.
Which he realized too late.
None of us, I think, though realized ir even had a clue just how completely saturated the GOP was with uniparty pencil pushers.

But, the article linked this morning, from his OOP director ....
Trump had started cleaning house before the election (which likely accelerated the stand down and stand by orders to let the fraud through).

The mass firing at the RNC was a continuation of that, screening current staff and firing those incomparable with the Trump agenda.

That's a huge change.
Don't buy the FUD that "nothing will change even if Trump wins."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 05, 2024 06:22 PM (yikga)

142 Mass Hospital system will stop reporting babies born addicted to drugs to Child Protective Services, because reporting criminals to police is racist.
Babies will be sent home with drug-addicted mothers, no questions asked.

Make PP look like a place that loves black babies.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 05, 2024 06:23 PM (ENQN6)

143 I saw an article that said NY rocks are extra hard, so their puny quakes feel bigger than they really are. Everybody else's rocks are soft.
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:14 PM (MvF+J)

Why do I feel like that's just another case of New Yorkers making up crap to fuel their fragile egos?
Posted by: Dr. T at April 05, 2024 06:20 PM (g0Y4p)
.......

California said pussy.

Posted by: wth at April 05, 2024 06:23 PM (v0R5T)

144 Good God, people.

It was a 4.5! Get over yourselves.

Just like the wildfire smoke. When it happens to New York, it's the worst, scariest , horriblist disaster ever in the HISTORY OF ALL HISTORY and New York is suffering unimaginably.

Now go and change your armor.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 05, 2024 06:23 PM (pmFfT)

145 I read that below Manhattan is solid granite. I read it I don't know it.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 05, 2024 06:24 PM (VMSDU)

146
Stella Mudd??
Posted by: andycanuck

STELLLLLLLLLLLLLA!

Posted by: Harcourt Fenton Brando at April 05, 2024 06:25 PM (63Dwl)

147
Why do I feel like that's just another case of New Yorkers making up crap to fuel their fragile egos?
Posted by: Dr. T at April 05, 2024 06:20 PM (g0Y4p)
.......

California said pussy.
Posted by: wth at April 05, 2024 06:23 PM (v0R5T)

You are pussies if someone is trying to say New York rocks are harder and you guys feel earthquakes more violently. I'm going to need an expert journalists" opinion.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 05, 2024 06:25 PM (R4Smv)

148 Thank you, Krebs. That's very helpful.

My daughter says, essentially I should just read all the dietary advice out there and then do the opposite!

Posted by: Wenda at April 05, 2024 06:26 PM (G1K9S)

149 143 I saw an article that said NY rocks are extra hard, so their puny quakes feel bigger than they really are. Everybody else's rocks are soft.
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:14 PM (MvF+J)

Seems legit — “The Eagles are arguably the greatest Californian rock band ever”

Posted by: Oglebay at April 05, 2024 06:26 PM (7fVdQ)

150 Good God, people.

It was a 4.5! Get over yourselves.

Just like the wildfire smoke. When it happens to New York, it's the worst, scariest , horriblist disaster ever in the HISTORY OF ALL HISTORY and New York is suffering unimaginably.

Now go and change your armor.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Probably a Senior Editor at NYT spilled his coffee, and the TV news imbeciles got their hair mussed and were scared!

Posted by: Cheri at April 05, 2024 06:26 PM (oiNtH)

151 Is Birx the new Jamie Gorelick? What else can these people f up?

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 05, 2024 06:27 PM (R4Smv)

152 Remember how guilty Oppenheimer felt about the bomb compared to these psychopaths?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 05, 2024 06:27 PM (wBaIH)

153 147 A lot of the NY rocks are moving out, so things there should get less quaky as time goes on.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:27 PM (MvF+J)

154 CaliGirl, the question is more likely, is there anything they haven't fucked up?

Posted by: Ben Had at April 05, 2024 06:28 PM (m3FnN)

155 Something of a feel-good story:

Following NC's passage of a new anti-DEI law, Appalachian State University has shut down a bunch of its LGBT nonsense. "Pride Week" was renamed "Spring Fest," a Drag Trivia event (don't even want to know) was canceled, and several gay and/or trans employees were let go.

Student activists are predictably irate, screaming "queer suppression!" and the like. Good.

Posted by: Dr. T at April 05, 2024 06:29 PM (g0Y4p)

156 Mass Hospital system will stop reporting babies born addicted to drugs to Child Protective Services, because reporting criminals to police is racist.
Babies will be sent home with drug-addicted mothers, no questions asked.

Make PP look like a place that loves black babies.
Posted by: rhennigantx
_________

Unless they changed the law, I'm sure there's a duty to report. Serious liability issues when something happens to one of the kids if they stop. Plaintiff's lawyer's dream.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 05, 2024 06:29 PM (Dm8we)

157 And now they're taking these disturbed kids, convincing them they're transgender, pumping them full of hormones and cutting their junk off. All part of the plan?

Posted by: Cui bono? at April 05, 2024 06:30 PM (pFhjh)

158 Pence has certainly done absolutely everything in his power since 2020 to confirm that he's an absolute Grade-A scumbag.

The only thing most RINOs will say about Pence is that he is a 'nice guy'.

When actually pressed and forced to say exactly what makes him a 'nice guy', they're stumped. They can't actually give any example of him ever being nice, only that he 'talks nice'.

Pence is a political quisling that thinks that as long as he mouths Christian crap people will buy it.

He's a lying scumbag just like the rest of them.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at April 05, 2024 06:30 PM (AjL/0)

159 There is no Deep State, and it's good that the Deep State impeded OrangeManBad.

Posted by: NPR at April 05, 2024 06:31 PM (aXxgO)

160 82 Pretty sure he would have been dead if they checked him in and put him on a ventilator.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 05, 2024 06:03 PM (QNSds)

And, with his survival, the hospital lost out on some sweet, sweet government cash. I'll bet management was pissed.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at April 05, 2024 06:31 PM (DTX3h)

161 West Coast has finally found something that it can gloat about.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 05, 2024 06:31 PM (VMSDU)

162 My daughter says, essentially I should just read all the dietary advice out there and then do the opposite!

Posted by: Wenda at April 05, 2024 06:26 PM (G1K9S)

I would do meat eggs nothing white for a month before half marathon drop 12 lbs and gain a minute a mile.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 05, 2024 06:31 PM (ENQN6)

163 People like Pence and Birx demonstrate the true face of evil. It greets you with a smile not a roar.

Posted by: ... at April 05, 2024 06:31 PM (lX8VI)

164 I read that below Manhattan is solid granite. I read it I don't know it.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 05, 2024 06:24 PM (VMSDU)

You took it for granite !

Posted by: JT at April 05, 2024 06:32 PM (T4tVD)

165 Mass Hospital system will stop reporting babies born addicted to drugs to Child Protective Services, because reporting criminals to police is racist.
Babies will be sent home with drug-addicted mothers, no questions asked.

Make PP look like a place that loves black babies.
Posted by: rhennigantx
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Unless they changed the law, I'm sure there's a duty to report. Serious liability issues when something happens to one of the kids if they stop. Plaintiff's lawyer's dream.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 05, 2024 06:29 PM

It's Mass and unfortunately it's mostly black babies that are born with drugs in their systems, not all but the vast majority. No way is the State or the Fed going to step in and do anything because racism.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 05, 2024 06:32 PM (QNSds)

166 The Deep State decided that the policy agenda elected by the voting public was "against the country's interests," you say?
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Our Democracy (tm)

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 05, 2024 06:32 PM (RIvkX)

167 nood

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 05, 2024 06:33 PM (vtyCZ)

168 >>>Tucker Carlson, driving 100mpg overnight to haraung and browbeat Trump into aceeding to the overreactions.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

>As a suspected slave owner, was he doing this with any urgency? I want what he has, forget EV and solar and wind! 100 mpg! That's my ticket to unlimited vagina!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 05, 2024 06:33 PM (WtvCN)

169 It's Mass and unfortunately it's mostly black babies that are born with drugs in their systems, not all but the vast majority. No way is the State or the Fed going to step in and do anything because racism.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 05, 2024 06:32 PM (QNSds)

So they're just going to throw the black babies under the proverbial bus. How very progressive of them.

Posted by: And that's not racist how? at April 05, 2024 06:33 PM (pFhjh)

170 Basically, the guy all but said that the 200+ fired at the RNC fully agreed with CNN's view of fraud in 2020.

That's not a few rogue agent saboteurs-- thats enough that they were running the RNC.

You think Rove is pissed because Trump is going to pardon the J6ers?

No, that's a feignt for the real ire: A whole bunch of his friends just lost their cushy jobs and his ability to control the GOP.
And ending fraud threatens the GOPe as much as it does Dems.

Most hilarious is every single GOPe has burnt all their bridges-- they have no sway over voters or Trump now. All their big guns from the past--donors, networks, endorsements--burned.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 05, 2024 06:33 PM (yikga)

171 >>> Covid hitting American shores in 2019.

Wow. Now they are admitting it was here months before the farcical lockdown swing to full-blown facism.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 05, 2024 06:34 PM (cOq4q)

172 when veteran government officials quietly intervened to undermine some of Trump's most troubling orders and policy initiatives, not because they threatened the officials' personal interests, but because they were illegal, unworkable, immoral or against the country's interests.

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I’d like to see that list.

Meanwhile the Deep State has no problem implementing the completely unworkable conversion to EV automobiles.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 05, 2024 06:34 PM (ehu56)

173 Before-shocks, after-shocks, they are all earthquakes. Plates get pushed together more and more until something gives. This is usually the quake with the highest energy. This movement then creates more localised stresses that get relieved as well but not with the same energy.

Posted by: Ciampino - It's CO2 I tell you at April 05, 2024 06:35 PM (qfLjt)

174 Based on personal experience 4.5 you sleep through in California.

I was in a backyard swimming pool and the pool water start making waves.
I looked up and the telephone/power poles were shaking... and not all in the same direction. I levitated out of the pool thinking the electric wires were going to come down and cook me in the pool.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 05, 2024 06:35 PM (Bmysc)

175 117 103 I saw an article that said NY rocks are extra hard, so their puny quakes feel bigger than they really are. Everybody else's rocks are soft.
Posted by: Lithiated gp
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a 4.8 or 5.0 is barely noticeable in a house, but in a tall building it will sway gently and be very noticeable.

I feel 5.0s all the time, and I get notices about them all the time that I didn't notice. But in a tall building - say 20 floors or more - you always notice.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 05, 2024 06:36 PM (t11Fv)

176 California said pussy.
Posted by: wth at April 05, 2024 06:23 PM (v0R5T)
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285 All my friends back east are cackling

"Did u feel that? oMg!"

Pussies
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 05, 2024 10:44 AM (RIvkX)

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 05, 2024 06:36 PM (RIvkX)

177 Unless they changed the law, I'm sure there's a duty to report. Serious liability issues when something happens to one of the kids if they stop. Plaintiff's lawyer's dream.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 05, 2024 06:29 PM

It's Mass and unfortunately it's mostly black babies that are born with drugs in their systems, not all but the vast majority. No way is the State or the Fed going to step in and do anything because racism.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 05, 2024 06:32 PM (QNSds)

There is no one that hate black babies more than white liberal women.

Ask ME

Posted by: RBG Star Wars Wheelchair at April 05, 2024 06:36 PM (ENQN6)

178 >"Just had a small aftershock here in NY...very small but noticeable..." -Posted by: Boswell

Fwiw, geophysics researcher Dutchsinse says that he predicted this earthquake a week ago, but YouTube took his video down.

He's back on and livestreaming right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFjyw5kt0Gg

Suspects he's also being shadow-banned.

Posted by: Just reporting at April 05, 2024 06:37 PM (2+3Q/)

179 171 >>> Covid hitting American shores in 2019.

Wow. Now they are admitting it was here months before the farcical lockdown swing to full-blown facism.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 05, 2024 06:34 PM (cOq4q)

They have blood donations from Pac West in oct that year with CV.

Posted by: RBG Star Wars Wheelchair at April 05, 2024 06:38 PM (ENQN6)

180 Unless they changed the law, I'm sure there's a duty to report. Serious liability issues when something happens to one of the kids if they stop. Plaintiff's lawyer's dream.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 05, 2024 06:29 PM

It's Mass and unfortunately it's mostly black babies that are born with drugs in their systems, not all but the vast majority. No way is the State or the Fed going to step in and do anything because racism.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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The feds or state don't have to step in. It would be a lawsuit against the hospital system by the kid, or the estate if the kid dies. Multimillion dollar liability trumps wokeism at some point.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 05, 2024 06:39 PM (Dm8we)

181 Was at Costco today. They're definitely bracing for the bird flu Karen-corps to go on an eggs and TP hoarding spree. I've never seen so many cases of eggs in my life. Half the giant walk in dairy fridge was full from floor to ceiling with eggs. The back aisle had most of the bottled water cleared out to make room for TP mountain. I took heart in the fact that none of this stuff was flying out the door.

I think enough people know what was done to us in 2020 was a fucking op or at the very least think the shit we did didn't work and the panic mongers will have to find a new game.

That being said, may Birx be spit roasted in hell for the evil that witch unleashed. Lost so many YOUNG friends to suicide/alcoholism/ delayed medical care thanks to her and her ilk.

Posted by: Ravenmother at April 05, 2024 06:40 PM (oiHdz)

182 Wasn’t there another advisor to Trump who butted heads with Birx, Fauci and the Left in general….a Scott Adams? He was getting the same treatment that they’re giving John Eastman right now.

Posted by: Rex B at April 05, 2024 06:42 PM (uU94S)

183 off sox

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 05, 2024 06:42 PM (ENQN6)

184 Good God, people.

It was a 4.5! Get over yourselves.

Just like the wildfire smoke. When it happens to New York, it's the worst, scariest , horriblist disaster ever in the HISTORY OF ALL HISTORY and New York is suffering unimaginably.

Now go and change your armor.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 05, 2024 06:23 PM (pmFfT)

yeah I've had ash flakes falling out of the smoke like snowflakes before forming little drifts.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 06:48 PM (eoQWY)

185 Geologists screwed the pooch with the name "crust" too. It's technically a "rind."
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at April 05, 2024 06:18 PM (MvF+J)
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"Crust" sounds more delicious.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight

I prefer skum floating a big ball of molten rock...
But we are still trying to figure out where Earth's heat comes from.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 05, 2024 06:49 PM (cOq4q)

186 a 4.8 or 5.0 is barely noticeable in a house, but in a tall building it will sway gently and be very noticeable.

I feel 5.0s all the time, and I get notices about them all the time that I didn't notice. But in a tall building - say 20 floors or more - you always notice.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 05, 2024 06:36 PM (t11Fv)

Depends on the distance I've found. A rattler of that size within 20 miles is much like what was in that clip.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 06:49 PM (eoQWY)

187 But we are still trying to figure out where Earth's heat comes from.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 05, 2024 06:49 PM (cOq4q)

Gravity and radioactive decay.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 06:50 PM (eoQWY)

188 Mason-Dixon 1/05/2024 625 RV ±4% 49% 43% 8%
Virginia Commonwealth Univ. 8/03/2023 747 RV 43% 40% 17%

Va would take a fucking miracle.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 05, 2024 06:55 PM (ENQN6)

189 Remember how guilty Oppenheimer felt about the bomb compared to these psychopaths?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 05, 2024 06:27 PM (wBaIH)

Ah screw Oppie. Did he give back any of the money he got making it?

I'm not sorry we didnt' suffer a million casualties killing a large fraction of the people of Japan doing less damage than the fire bombings were doing to every Japanese city in 1944 and 1945.

The A Bomb gave Hirohito the nerve to order the generals to give up and not take the nation with them.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 06:56 PM (eoQWY)

190 Gravity and radioactive decay.
Posted by: Oldcat

Nah. Gotta be carbon dioxide in the air.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 05, 2024 07:08 PM (cOq4q)

191 a 4.8 or 5.0 is barely noticeable in a house, but in a tall building it will sway gently and be very noticeable.

I feel 5.0s all the time, and I get notices about them all the time that I didn't notice. But in a tall building - say 20 floors or more - you always notice.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 05, 2024 06:36 PM (t11Fv)

Depends on the distance I've found. A rattler of that size within 20 miles is much like what was in that clip.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2024 06:49 PM (eoQWY)

Two homes in Newark are now leaning into each other.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at April 05, 2024 07:19 PM (iODuv)

192 I was giving Birx the benefit of the doubt at first, but when she told that tear filled story about her telling her daughter not to take her infant daughter to the emergency room when she was running a 104 temp because she could catch Covid , I was done.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 05, 2024 07:20 PM (/gTA+)

193 The school shutdowns were to protect the teachers, not the kids, been said I'm sure.

Posted by: javems at April 05, 2024 07:33 PM (lfS+4)

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