THE MORNING RANT - EV Death Pool Update: Rivian Puts Halt to Georgia Plant; Fisker Circling the Drain

Governor Brian Kemp’s Parkway to Nowhere

As I’ve been documenting over the past few years, there has been no easier mark for electric vehicle hustlers than Georgia Governor Brian Kemp (R). He has repeatedly thrown outrageous amounts of taxpayer money at pie-in-the-sky EV and battery ventures. He embraced the eco-communists’ vision of a world without gasoline-powered cars, and to paraphrase Nikita Khrushchev, Brian Kemp wanted Georgia to become the premier manufacturer of the electric ropes with which western civilization would be hung.

Rivian has been Gov. Kemp’s largest and most visibly bad ~~communist~~ public-private investment – a boondoggle for which he pledged $1.5 billion of Georgia taxpayer money. The state has already condemned the land, graded it, turned the land over to Rivian, and spent tens of millions of dollars on roadways for the project. Rivian is a start-up with neither a customer base, nor any historical manufacturing experience. It not only hemorrhages cash, but it suffers a gross loss of tens of thousands of dollars on every vehicle it sells. There is no pathway to profitability for it. Like a dot-com company from 25 years ago, its financial performance is measured in its cash-burn rate. Rivian already has a plant in Illinois with a manufacturing capacity of 150,000 units per year, but it can only sell about a third of that.

This announcement has been inevitable for quite some time:

“Automaker Rivian pauses construction of its $5 billion electric truck plant in Georgia” [AP – 3/07/2024]

The CEO of Rivian Automotive announced Thursday that the electric truck maker is pausing construction of its $5 billion manufacturing plant in Georgia to speed production and save money.
It would also save $2.25 billion in capital spending for now, Rivian said in a news release. The company has been burning through accumulated cash quickly, even as it hasn’t met production targets at its Illinois plant.
Rivian did not give a timetable for restarting work on the Georgia plant, saying in a statement: “The timing for resuming construction is expected to be later.”

I can help out here regarding the timetable for Rivian’s Georgia plant - it will never be built.

Like a degenerate gambler who has just put the deed to his house on the table because he knows his luck is about to turn around, Gov. Kemp is still confident about this awful EV gamble.

“Kemp: Rivian and Georgia remain 'committed' to $5B manufacturing plant” [Fox5 Atlanta – 3/13/2024]

At a press conference on Tuesday, Kemp addressed the automaker's announcement for the first time, saying that Rivian's decision was "disappointing" but that the state was still optimistic about the deal. "What they've relayed to me is that there is no doubt here. We're under contract with them. The state is in a really good place," he said.

To be fair, the state is in a better place than it would have been had construction started before Rivian goes out of business. This way, there will not be any demolition required for whatever future purpose is found for this land.

Still, Kemp remained positive that construction would continue on schedule. "They can still meet the metrics that they have to under our contract obligations by 2030," Kemp said, "We honor our commitments in our state, and we're going to do that in regards to the site, and we're expecting the company to honor their commitments as well."

This last sentence (below) made me smile. Someone at the state’s highway department understands better than the Governor himself that the Rivian misadventure is now winding down.

The state also has completed most of the $50 million in roadwork that it pledged. But signs for Rivian Parkway at a new traffic signal on U.S. 278 had been removed as of last week.

I might suggest that Rivian Parkway be renamed “Governor Kemp’s Parkway to Nowhere.”

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Fisker Is Going Bankrupt – Again

While Rivian is the most prominent of the failing EV start-ups, it looks like Fisker is going to go out of business before Rivian does.

“Electric-Vehicle Startup Fisker Prepares for Possible Bankruptcy Filing” [WSJ – 3/13/2024]

Fisker, which recently warned that it risked running out of cash this year, hired financial adviser FTI Consulting and the law firm Davis Polk to work on a potential filing, the people said. The car company reported last month that it had $273 million in sales last year and more than $1 billion in debt. Fisker last month issued a so-called going-concern warning that there was “substantial doubt” about its ability to stay in business.

This will be Henrik Fisker’s second visit to bankruptcy court with an electric vehicle startup. He had a previous EV venture (“Fisker Automotive” that went bankrupt in 2013, yet there was such a voracious appetite from ~~suckers~~ investors during the EV bubble, that Fisker was able to successfully fleece the EV true believers a second time. Fisker, Inc. went public in 2020 and achieved a market capitalization of $6 billion. Fisker’s 40% ownership made his shares worth $2.4 billion at the time.

“Fleece” may actually be too polite a word. In 2021, Fisker’s investors bought him a $21 million mansion in the Hollywood Hills.

As their fortune balloons, it’s no secret that the Fiskers have been living primarily in Los Angeles, where Fisker Inc. is headquartered. Since 2019, the couple has leased a house on Sunset Plaza Drive in the Hollywood Hills; now, records reveal they’ve opted to buy a lavish mansion in the same area.

Fortunately for the Fisker family, Henrik had the foresight to start selling Fisker stock before its price collapsed. Coincidentally enough, he sold $20 million worth of stock right about the time he was buying the $21 million mansion in Hollywood Hills. The stock he sold at $9.50 per share is now worth 15 cents per share.

If Mr. Fisker would like to make yet another EV fortune - before going bankrupt a third time - all he has to do is fly to Georgia and purr into Brian Kemp’s ear “EVs, Jobs” and Gov. Kemp will almost certainly start throwing billions of Georgia taxpayer dollars at Mr. Fisker.

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Time to Put Team EV on Defense

My latest piece has been published at The Pipeline.

In it I argue that despite the failure of the “EV transition” to date, the left and the EV evangelists are not going to back off from their quest to ban gasoline-powered cars, so we should respond in kind and put them on the defensive by implementing laws and regulations that effectively ban their precious EVs. I have a list of suggestions for red states and President Trump, which include requiring a giant warning label on the hood of every EV cautioning that foreign slaves and child labor were used to source the rare earth minerals in the car.

As to whether this conflicts with our conservative, free market principles, I point out that, “There really is no conflict at all because there is a greater principle in play – when my property, safety, or freedom are attacked, I may respond in a manner that I otherwise wouldn’t have if I had simply been left alone.”

The critical point is that we begged the left and its passionate EV fanboys to leave us and our gasoline powered cars alone. They wouldn’t.

Begging our adversaries to just leave us alone hasn’t worked. Let them beg us to leave them alone. Only then should we consider allowing them to keep their E.V.s. -- for a price.

My latest at The Pipeline: “Time to Put Team EV on Defense” argues that despite the initial failure of “the EV transition,” the left still wants to ban our gas cars. Thus we must now retaliate & make the fight about them saving their precious EVs.https://t.co/wVry9HXJ6L
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) March 14, 2024

I’d be honored if you’d give it a read.

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*Breaking News* - Hertz’s Woke, EV-Loving CEO Just Resigned

This news just broke over the weekend, Hertz’s CEO, Stephen Scherr, has just stepped down as CEO after his destructive tenure at Hertz. He committed big to EVs and cost the company a fortune with that awful decision, before being forced to backtrack and start dumping the fleet of hated EVs, causing the company to take a $245 million hit for his virtuously inept management.

It was just one month ago I wrote the following:

With Hertz being mismanaged by a CEO who does not understand either his product or his customers, you will not be surprised to learn that Hertz stock has fallen by more than 60% in the past year, from $20 to less than $8 per share.

So who is the CEO of Hertz?

Stephen Scherr is Chair and Chief Executive Officer of Hertz. He is focused on transforming the iconic American company into a global leader in shared mobility, electrification, and digital-first customer experience. Prior to joining Hertz in February 2022, Stephen spent nearly three decades at Goldman Sachs.

With Scherr’s resume, his global-communist agenda, and degrees from Princeton and Harvard, poor Hertz doesn’t stand a chance with him at the helm.
And, of course, as Hertz hemorrhages money and its stock price collapses, Mr. Scherr is looting the company. Hertz CEO Stephen Scherr’s total compensation of $182 million made him the third highest–paid chief executive in the U.S., according to executive-pay-data and analytics company C-Suite Comp used in a report from the Wall Street Journal.

I will have much more to write about Stephen Scherr and the Hertz lesson in the near future.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at March 18, 2024 11:00 AM (7hSpl)

2 1st?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:01 AM (9yWhg)

3 Not first. Dammit, Robert.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:01 AM (9yWhg)

4 I've culled the otters.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:01 AM (9yWhg)

5 I am shocked... shocked, I say, that yet another bubble-based grift is falling apart. Fortunately, mostly it's only the taxpayers that are harmed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:02 AM (zhLdt)

6 I like stories with happy endings

Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2024 11:02 AM (IrUIF)

7 Battery powered vehicles.... aka "toys."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 18, 2024 11:02 AM (Q4IgG)

8 Rivian is a start-up with neither a customer base, nor any historical manufacturing experience. It not only hemorrhages cash, but it suffers a gross loss of tens of thousands of dollars on every vehicle it sells.

There is no pathway to profitability for it.

BECAUSE IT IS A MONEY LAUNDERING OPERATION.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:02 AM (SbJgO)

9 I had an extremely rare sighting on the road recently: a Rivian driving under its own power.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 18, 2024 11:03 AM (CsUN+)

10 Jeepers, no one really wants these things. Who knew?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 18, 2024 11:03 AM (FmapG)

11 Just promise me an EV would never just accidentally reverse into a small pond and refuse to open doors or windows until the passenger has drowned. Or it couldn't be hacked to do that.

because that would be crazy

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 18, 2024 11:03 AM (z+89e)

12 As I’ve been documenting over the past few years, there has been no easier mark for electric vehicle hustlers than Georgia Governor Brian Kemp (R).

Three questions come to mind:

1. What was his net worth before?
2. What is his salary?
3. What is his net worth now?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:04 AM (zhLdt)

13 I'd like to see a cross country "race" between an ev and ice vehicle...from LA/SF to DC/NY...taking same route.

Posted by: BignJames at March 18, 2024 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

14 We really need a rule that says if politicians are going to meddle in markets and economics, their personal fortunes must top the list of who pays back losses to the creditors, i.e. us.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 18, 2024 11:05 AM (CsUN+)

15 Just promise me an EV would never just accidentally reverse into a small pond and refuse to open doors or windows until the passenger has drowned.

Sis, is that you?

Posted by: Elaine Chao at March 18, 2024 11:05 AM (9yWhg)

16 Shocking news regarding EV builders short-circuiting.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 18, 2024 11:05 AM (YF3RS)

17
97.3% of the EV are still on the road

the other 2.7% actually made it home

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2024 11:05 AM (bEb2S)

18 Rivian is a start-up with neither a customer base, nor any historical manufacturing experience. It not only hemorrhages cash, but it suffers a gross loss of tens of thousands of dollars on every vehicle it sells.

There is no pathway to profitability for it.

We'll make it up on volume.

Posted by: Rivian at March 18, 2024 11:06 AM (CsUN+)

19 ha ha ha I guess those EV's weren't shovel ready

-Captain Oblowme

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at March 18, 2024 11:06 AM (djLbh)

20 11 Just promise me an EV would never just accidentally reverse into a small pond and refuse to open doors or windows until the passenger has drowned. Or it couldn't be hacked to do that.

because that would be crazy
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 18, 2024 11:03 AM (z+89e)

Yerah, an old-fashioned ca with an ICE engine could do the same thing. Or, so I've heard...

Posted by: Zombie Edward Kennedy at March 18, 2024 11:06 AM (PiwSw)

21 This news just broke over the weekend, Hertz’s CEO, Stephen Scherr, has just stepped down as CEO after his destructive tenure at Hertz.

Stepped down is a nice way of saying it. He was told to leave.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 18, 2024 11:06 AM (lTGtQ)

22 There's nothing wrong with the EV market that massive government intervention won't fix.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:07 AM (aD39U)

23 97.3% of the EV are still on the road

the other 2.7% actually made it home

Posted by: AltonJackson

Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:07 AM (SbJgO)

24 Hertz CEO Resigns After Blowing Big Gamble on EVs

Posted by: Bid Gamble Jackson at March 18, 2024 11:08 AM (djLbh)

25 Off, Sock.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:08 AM (9yWhg)

26 As I’ve been documenting over the past few years, there has been no easier mark for electric vehicle hustlers than Georgia Governor Brian Kemp (R). He has repeatedly thrown outrageous amounts of taxpayer money at pie-in-the-sky EV and battery ventures.

Andy Beshear (D-KY) and Bill Lee (R-TN) enter the chat.

Posted by: Factoids at March 18, 2024 11:08 AM (DQaYG)

27 -Captain Oblowme

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at March 18, 2024 11:06 AM (djLbh)

Filling out yourbrackets?

Posted by: BignJames at March 18, 2024 11:08 AM (AwYPR)

28 The EV equivalent of a Yugo.

Posted by: Butkus51 at March 18, 2024 11:08 AM (BBPQE)

29 > Rivian is a start-up with neither a customer base, nor any historical manufacturing experience.
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IIRC they also lost most of their executives and engineers last year to other EV manufacturers.

Also, it seems to me that most EV startups are just some sort of con job and/or money laundering operation. Especially the ones that don't even have a representative vehicle to demonstrate, or only a couple one-offs.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 18, 2024 11:09 AM (Q4IgG)

30 Rivian is a start-up with neither a customer base, nor any historical manufacturing experience.

There are one or two of the vehicles near where I live. I see them often enough to recognize them. When they get behind me, I slow down about ten miles an hour to force them to go around me. I don't want that heavy thing behind me where it can kill me because the lefty loon driving it is on his cell phone and not paying attention to the road.

Posted by: BifBewalski at March 18, 2024 11:09 AM (o38pB)

31 Willowed. as Anna Puma mentioned:
Breaking911 @Breaking911 26m
HORROR: Teen Girl Fatally Stabbed, Another Injured After Rejecting Man's Advances at NYC Deli, Cops Say
• Young woman dead, and another hospitalized overnight after a stabbing at a Brooklyn deli.
• Incident occurred around 2:30 a.m. in Park Slope at Saint Marks Place and 4th Avenue.
• Witness reported the altercation began when a man made advances towards the two young women, which they rejected.
• After being rebuffed, the man left but returned later, banging and kicking on the deli's glass door.
• The group inside locked the door for safety, but eventually opened the door to let everyone out. That's when the man stormed in and attacked the women.
• Police confirmed both victims are 19 years old but have not released details about the suspect or any arrests

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:09 AM (2yu8s)

32 Reminiscent of the time the City of Portland and the State of Oregon plowed hundreds of millions of dollars into a solar company about ten years ago.

The solar company went bankrupt, of course.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 18, 2024 11:09 AM (YAtuc)

33 Beshear was doing something similar here in Kentucky.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:10 AM (di6C2)

34 Somehow I don't think Stephen Scherr needs to worry about his compensation package being revoked.

Posted by: Oglebay at March 18, 2024 11:10 AM (7fVdQ)

35 Kemp be a’marchin’ thru Georgia jes lak Gen’l Sherman done.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2024 11:10 AM (NxC5+)

36 I really enjoyed the way that the Hertz CEO leaving was spun. They announced that they were selling the EVs and replacing with ICE vehicles and that the company was moving in a new direction.

They also put their 40,000 EV for sale just after Tesla announced price decreases, so they are going to get about $10K per car that they paid $50-60K for a year ago. $10K is about what it costs to replace a dented body panel on one.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 18, 2024 11:10 AM (lTGtQ)

37 In it I argue that despite the failure of the “EV transition” to date, the left and the EV evangelists are not going to back off from their quest to ban gasoline-powered cars, so we should respond in kind and put them on the defensive by implementing laws and regulations that effectively ban their precious EVs.

Given the increased weight associated with EVs, and the road damage caused, and the lack of gasoline taxes paid, it seems like an EVs annual registration should be MUCH higher.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:10 AM (zhLdt)

38 Police confirmed both victims are 19 years old but have not released details about the suspect or any arrests

I bet the assailant was a cracker.

Posted by: Eric Adams, Mayor! at March 18, 2024 11:11 AM (YAtuc)

39 Kemp be a’marchin’ thru Georgia jes lak Gen’l Sherman done.
Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2024 11:10 AM (NxC5+)

If he burnt Atlanta I would give him a second look.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:11 AM (aD39U)

40 Rivians are also just dog ugly. And not in the somewhat endearing Gremlin-like way, but the Pontiac Aztek kind of way. Rip your heart out of your chest awful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:11 AM (di6C2)

41 No EV for me

Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at March 18, 2024 11:11 AM (Z3n5G)

42 If you need tax breaks, subsidies, loan guarantees, third-party incentives or so on, there is one thing that you absolutely do not have: a viable business.

If you *don't* need those things but shop around for them anyway (for example, when Hyundai/Kia took Mississippi and Alabama for everything they could get), then I don't like it but it's just capitalizing on someone else's foolishness to improve your own bottom line. It's sleazy, but you at least actually have an enterprise. If you actually *need* those things, however, you don't have a business - you have a racket.

Stadiums are a racket. Most of the EV companies are rackets. The "green energy" complex is a racket. "Tech incubators" run by wannabee Silicon Valley politicians are a racket.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:11 AM (HnUIn)

43 An EV Bloodbath column-I love it! You know, the word Bloodbath sounds much better if you say it in a British accent.

Posted by: Amping Up the Discord at March 18, 2024 11:12 AM (V5BDR)

44 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

45
Rivians are also just dog ugly. And not in the somewhat endearing Gremlin-like way, but the Pontiac Aztek kind of way. Rip your heart out of your chest awful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:11 AM

if a 1959 Edsel and a hippopotamus loved each other very much...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 18, 2024 11:13 AM (bEb2S)

46 Saw a Fisker for the first time the other day.

Sort of resembles an Aston Martin. Wide as can be.

Other than that, it was hideous.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)

47 Fisker? I just met her!

Posted by: Couldn't resist at March 18, 2024 11:14 AM (dg+HA)

48 If you need tax breaks, subsidies, loan guarantees, third-party incentives or so on, there is one thing that you absolutely do not have: a viable business.

The solar and wind people defend their huge subsidies by claiming that oil and gas also get huge subsidies.

True or not, take away oil and gas' "subsidies", and oil and gas get a bit more expensive.

Take away wind and solar's subsidies, and they collapse.

Slight difference.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 18, 2024 11:15 AM (YAtuc)

49 To be fair, the state is in a better place than it would have been had construction started before Rivian goes out of business. This way, there will not be any demolition required for whatever future purpose is found for this land.
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That's fairly secondary. These things tend to be built in new areas or in blighted, rotting areas. The property usually has fairly little value in the first place, which is why it's selected for these kinds of projects and why these projects are always expected to return incredible ROI to the state (they never do, but the logic behind it is that the area goes from worthless to valuable).

So what usually happens in the failure phase is that it just ... sits there. It adds to the blight, or creates a new blighted area. If the property every becomes valuable in the future - it does happen, usually due to blind luck - then the demolition costs will be well worth the expense and the future owner might be moderately better off for it (utilities are already run, etc.) or it will be only a modest proportional cost.

The real cost of this stuff failing is the destruction of virgin areas, filling them with blight or the compounding of blight.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:15 AM (HnUIn)

50 Rivians are also just dog ugly. And not in the somewhat endearing Gremlin-like way, but the Pontiac Aztek kind of way. Rip your heart out of your chest awful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:11 AM

Rich guy around the corner has one. He was going to tow his Airstream trailer this past weekend. I said to the wife "I hope he's camping at Lake Lewisville......"

Lake Lewisville is only a few miles away.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

51 Speaking of "rackets"...NC just made sports betting legal...being swamped with Draft King etc. ads.

Posted by: BignJames at March 18, 2024 11:15 AM (AwYPR)

52 Never fear the Biden junta is going to put higher mileage standards on cars. So there is still hope that the failing idea of EVs could work.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 18, 2024 11:15 AM (17s+e)

53 Filling out yourbrackets?
Posted by: BignJames at March 18, 2024 11:08 AM (AwYPR

Im looking at losers ... Rutgers13th in the Big Ten

Meh Fitting for South Campus ...

Posted by: Bid Gamble Jackson at March 18, 2024 11:16 AM (djLbh)

54 Time to Put Team EV on Defense

"My latest piece has been published at The Pipeline....
...I’d be honored if you’d give it a read."

Great article, as usual, Buck. You are my go-to source for arming myself with knowledge with which to argue and debate against the EV proponents I encounter. It's amazing how little people really know about this stuff. Thank you for being a voice of reason about this!

Posted by: Doof at March 18, 2024 11:16 AM (JunzL)

55 If you need tax breaks, subsidies, loan guarantees, third-party incentives or so on, there is one thing that you absolutely do not have: a viable business...

Stadiums are a racket. Most of the EV companies are rackets. The "green energy" complex is a racket. "Tech incubators" run by wannabee Silicon Valley politicians are a racket.

What?

Posted by: CA high speed rail at March 18, 2024 11:16 AM (CsUN+)

56 The EV equivalent of a Yugo.
Posted by: Butkus51

"A liberal guy and a liberal gal buy an EV."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:16 AM (9yWhg)

57 Breaking911 @Breaking911 26m
HORROR: Teen Girl Fatally Stabbed, Another Injured After Rejecting Man's Advances at NYC Deli, Cops Say
• Young woman dead, and another hospitalized overnight after a stabbing at a Brooklyn deli.
• Incident occurred around 2:30 a.m. in Park Slope at Saint Marks Place and 4th Avenue.
• Witness reported the altercation began when a man made advances towards the two young women, which they rejected.
• After being rebuffed, the man left but returned later, banging and kicking on the deli's glass door.
• The group inside locked the door for safety, but eventually opened the door to let everyone out. That's when the man stormed in and attacked the women.
• Police confirmed both victims are 19 years old but have not released details about the suspect or any arrests
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:09 AM (2yu8s)

What is California calling them now? Vacationing shoppers?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

58 Hertz CEO has decided to spend more time with his charging station.

Posted by: Amped Up at March 18, 2024 11:17 AM (dg+HA)

59 Aetius 451 AD @ 40-
Ah yes, the infamous Aztec/Avalanche Affair. Dreadful.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2024 11:17 AM (NxC5+)

60 Gotta' give Tesla at least some credit. They came up with an overly priced niche vehicle that sometimes works.

I'm still gonna ask what I've been asking - where is all the juice going to come from ? You drive, say an hour a day ? Trust me, if you drive anything over a golf cart, that's gonna require 40 horsepower minimum. That, my friends, is right at 30 kWhr per day. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Now go look at your electric bill - and add 30 kWhr PER DAY to your bill. Do the math. For an average household ? 50% demand increase - for just one car. Somebody tell me again where all this juice, and grid to carry it, is going to come from ?

Posted by: Factoids at March 18, 2024 11:17 AM (DQaYG)

61 Geeta Gupta looks like a Troon.

Posted by: XTC at March 18, 2024 11:17 AM (UnA8+)

62 This news just broke over the weekend, Hertz’s CEO, Stephen Scherr, has just stepped down as CEO after his destructive tenure at Hertz. He committed big to EVs and cost the company a fortune with that awful decision, before being forced to backtrack and start dumping the fleet of hated EVs, causing the company to take a $245 million hit for his virtuously inept management.
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It's kind of amazing that he was forced out. This kind of failure is the "right" kind of failure.

Maybe because Hertz survived COVID-response-related Chapter 11 recently and emerged victorious in part because it became a meme stock (something you can never count on), the Board there is concerned about viability. I dunno.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:17 AM (HnUIn)

63 I

It not only hemorrhages cash, but it suffers a gross loss of tens of thousands of dollars on every vehicle it sells.

That is the story of ever EV maker out there. Normal people do not want these POS.

Posted by: vic at March 18, 2024 11:17 AM (A5THL)

64 An EV Bloodbath column-I love it! You know, the word Bloodbath sounds much better if you say it in a British accent.
Posted by: Amping Up the Discord at March 18, 2024 11:12 AM (V5BDR)

I trust you are pronouncing it "BLOOD-bith"?

Posted by: Doof at March 18, 2024 11:18 AM (JunzL)

65 My system is FU.

Posted by: vic at March 18, 2024 11:18 AM (A5THL)

66 I saw a CyberTruck in person on Saturday.

Ho-Lee-Fuk that thing is ugly. not, it’s kinda weird but it may grow on me ugly.
More, what in the fuck were they thinking ugly.

Posted by: Montec at March 18, 2024 11:18 AM (4+s9S)

67 Did they ever standardize on charging hookups? Or are we still at the point where Tesla owners can only charge up at Tesla stations, etc.?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at March 18, 2024 11:18 AM (xcxpd)

68 off sock

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at March 18, 2024 11:18 AM (djLbh)

69 My four ICE vehicles are a combined 179 years old. Not bloody likely any of them are going to be replaced by a plug-in golf cart.

Posted by: King of Carbon Emissions at March 18, 2024 11:18 AM (V5BDR)

70 Police confirmed both victims are 19 years old but have not released details about the suspect or any arrests

I bet the assailant was a cracker.
Posted by: Eric Adams, Mayor!

With a MAGA ball cap.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 18, 2024 11:19 AM (FVME7)

71 Kemp. Putz. So wrong, so often.

Posted by: DOYLE at March 18, 2024 11:19 AM (Z8Yh2)

72 The solar and wind people defend their huge subsidies by claiming that oil and gas also get huge subsidies.

True or not, take away oil and gas' "subsidies", and oil and gas get a bit more expensive.

Take away wind and solar's subsidies, and they collapse.

Slight difference.

Posted by: The ARC of History!

Just so everyone will know, the oil and gas "subsidies" are depletion instead of depreciation on the oil in the ground, which means they can expense their costs slightly faster than a factory can expense their capital equipment. Because oil fields tend to deplete faster than the timeline the IRS gave for buildings and furniture.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 18, 2024 11:19 AM (lTGtQ)

73 The EV equivalent of a Yugo.
Posted by: Butkus51

"A liberal guy and a liberal gal buy an EV."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:16 AM (9yWhg)

Yet another reminder of how much I miss El Rushbo

Posted by: Doof at March 18, 2024 11:19 AM (JunzL)

74 The wife looks like a real leftwing scold in that photo.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 18, 2024 11:19 AM (BxvY+)

75 I'd like to see a cross country "race" between an ev and ice vehicle...from LA/SF to DC/NY...taking same route.

And if the race rules stated that the ICE a/k/a Real car had to drive the speed limit and the EV could drive as fast as they wanted, I would bet that the real car would still win.

Posted by: Chuck C at March 18, 2024 11:20 AM (yOPBE)

76 In the U.S., the phase-out of leaded gasoline began in the 1970s and was completed when the EPA banned the sale of leaded gasoline for on-road vehicles in 1996.

A quarter of a century to phase out leaded gasoline. And the Biden administration and California expect to replace internal combustion vehicles by 2035 or 2050.

Morons.

Posted by: SMOD at March 18, 2024 11:20 AM (RHGPo)

77 Thx Buck, great post. Keep up the good work on this idiocy.
I always check people who are fired for doing things not capitalist. Mr. Scherr lo and behold is a member of The Council on Foreign Relations. Seems to be indicating that his main reason for being there wasn't to make Hertz profitable.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 18, 2024 11:20 AM (5q0pY)

78 Harvard grads are sure doing their level best to wreck the economy.

Posted by: torabora at March 18, 2024 11:21 AM (/DSmj)

79 I know I'm repeating myself and others here, but the objective was never to get us all into EVs; it was about getting us out of our ICE vehicles. Gotta keep the peasants on foot, unarmed, malnourished, and penned up.

Posted by: Butch at March 18, 2024 11:21 AM (0APJ3)

80 I had a relative that worked for years at the Mitsubishi auto plant in Normal, IL….. they closed shop and lots of jobs lost/moved so the local area was thrilled with Rivian taking over the former Mitsubishi facility. They’re still thrilled; at least about the news from GA, I guess because it keeps the IL plant going ahead (on life support)….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 18, 2024 11:21 AM (gZ3KO)

81 I read an article on the awful new paint colors you see everywhere now. I'd been trying to think of how to describe them, but the article called them "clay" or "putty" and I think that sums them up nicely. Apparently, Porsche used to use such paint, and I guess everyone thinks if they buy that kind of paint, they also drive a Porsche.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 18, 2024 11:21 AM (CsUN+)

82 Nice article(s) Buck.
And Geetha Fisker looks....well honestly, ugly on the inside.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at March 18, 2024 11:21 AM (xcxpd)

83 The solar and wind people defend their huge subsidies by claiming that oil and gas also get huge subsidies.

Wind is the scam of scams. Ponzi would be proud. I have yet to talk to a wind operator that is getting more than 20% utilization. I also have yet to talk to one that isn't cannibalizing the fleet, with no intentions of ever buying another.

Posted by: Factoids at March 18, 2024 11:21 AM (DQaYG)

84 This EV crap is the pure implementation of leftwing economics.

People won't buy EVs (because they suck). So we'll throw a ton of research dollars at them, pay people to make them, and pay people to buy them.

And...it doesn't work. Why? Because the companies getting federal dollars have no incentive to improve their product.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2024 11:21 AM (ibTVg)

85 Gotta' give Tesla at least some credit. They came up with an overly priced niche vehicle that sometimes works.

Posted by: Factoids

It helped that the world's richest man could lose money every year and keep going for years without going bankrupt. It also helped that Tesla's main source of income up until 2022 was selling carbon credits to GM and Ford.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 18, 2024 11:22 AM (lTGtQ)

86 HORROR: Teen Girl Fatally Stabbed, Another Injured After Rejecting Man's Advances at NYC Deli, Cops Say ... Police confirmed both victims are 19 years old but have not released details about the suspect or any arrests

This is going to be another busy day, isn't it?

Posted by: Orwells Memory Hole at March 18, 2024 11:22 AM (yOPBE)

87 42 If you need tax breaks, subsidies, loan guarantees, third-party incentives or so on, there is one thing that you absolutely do not have: a viable business.

Stadiums are a racket. Most of the EV companies are rackets. The "green energy" complex is a racket. "Tech incubators" run by wannabee Silicon Valley politicians are a racket.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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True. I once befuzzled a local pol by commenting that a city would be better served by treating its existing businesses kindly via regulations, taxing, and essential services than subsidizing mega corp or oligarch to come in.

The difference I explained to the pol is that local business people WANT their town/city to be nice because they mostly live there. Megacorp or oligarchs have no intention of living in what they consider podunk towns and often once the family control of a business is diluted enough by stock prices, the company HQ moves to where the CEO can rub elbows with their own class rather than the flyover people.

CEO's of stock companies increasingly resemble the petty titled aristocrats--living the high life off of accumulated capital from the past (the CEO for Hertz is an example).

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:22 AM (TPpzE)

88 The CEO of Rivian Automotive announced Thursday that the electric truck maker is pausing construction of its $5 billion manufacturing plant in Georgia to speed production and save money.

All contingent of jailing PDT.

Fawnay messed things up bigly..

Old joke; Give a person a fur coat and they think they own the world..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at March 18, 2024 11:22 AM (djLbh)

89 Oh, no! Mitch McConnell is socking Vic!!

Banhammer Mitch's ass!!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:22 AM (2yu8s)

90 A Tesla is a very expensive very fast and fun golf cart.

Posted by: Subsidized by the taxpayers at March 18, 2024 11:22 AM (dg+HA)

91 Just so everyone will know, the oil and gas "subsidies" are depletion instead of depreciation on the oil in the ground, which means they can expense their costs slightly faster than a factory can expense their capital equipment. Because oil fields tend to deplete faster than the timeline the IRS gave for buildings and furniture.

Thanks for that. The mindless drones simply repeat the line about oil and gas subsidies, and have not the foggiest notion what they're talking about.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 18, 2024 11:22 AM (CsUN+)

92 This news just broke over the weekend, Hertz’s CEO, Stephen Scherr, has just stepped down as CEO after his destructive tenure at Hertz. He committed big to EVs and cost the company a fortune with that awful decision, before being forced to backtrack and start dumping the fleet of hated EVs, causing the company to take a $245 million hit for his virtuously inept management.
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It's kind of amazing that he was forced out. This kind of failure is the "right" kind of failure.

Maybe because Hertz survived COVID-response-related Chapter 11 recently and emerged victorious in part because it became a meme stock (something you can never count on), the Board there is concerned about viability. I dunno.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

He better be glad this isn't Japan. The board would have had him executed.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:23 AM (SbJgO)

93 And if the race rules stated that the ICE a/k/a Real car had to drive the speed limit and the EV could drive as fast as they wanted, I would bet that the real car would still win.
Posted by: Chuck C at March 18, 2024 11:20 AM (yOPBE)

The ONLY advantage an EV has is cost of refill. Time wise, it loses in almost every category.

Tesla brags about getting 150 mile range added in 30 minutes or some such when rapid charging.

Yeah, wife's Expediction gets 350 miles added in a 15 minute fuel stop.

Blow me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

94 I would accept an EV for free or cheap. It would make a decent extra town car for running to the store. I would not pay a fortune for one though.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:23 AM (aD39U)

95 There are one or two of the vehicles near where I live. I see them often enough to recognize them. When they get behind me, I slow down about ten miles an hour to force them to go around me. I don't want that heavy thing behind me where it can kill me because the lefty loon driving it is on his cell phone and not paying attention to the road.
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 18, 2024 11:09 AM (o38pB)

They don't have the safety feature where they burst into flames if they get too close to the vehicle in front of them?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:24 AM (zhLdt)

96 Perhaps it is time to give Hertz stock a look.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 18, 2024 11:24 AM (GZYu7)

97
I trust you are pronouncing it "BLOOD-bith"?
Posted by: Doof at March 18, 2024 11:18 AM (JunzL

I was watching Raheem Kassam on the War Room and he said bloodbath. Pronounced it more like blood-BAAAth.

Posted by: Brit from Pock-ee-stahn at March 18, 2024 11:24 AM (V5BDR)

98 71 Kemp. Putz. So wrong, so often.
Posted by: DOYLE
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He knows where his bread is buttered. He attended the last two WEF forums now that he has his second term. Davos man type.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:24 AM (TPpzE)

99 That is the story of ever EV maker out there. Normal people do not want these POS.
Posted by: vic at March 18, 2024 11:17 AM (A5THL)
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Plenty of normal people want an EV. Few normal people want only an EV, and far fewer can afford the EV price for a second car.

There are plenty of those kind of "second car" EVs out there, but there *is* an EV premium, even at the low end. A Nissan Leaf, for example, is basically an ideal "second car" EV. The Leaf has a base MSRP of $28k and as equipped it's usually about a grand more.

That's a lot for a car that is only barely considered a "midsized" car. A Toyota Corolla hatchback - fairly premium among the standard brands - is just under $25k for the most popular trim per Edmunds.

Even in the small, practical, "second car" kind of territory for those in the market, there's still a multi-thousand-dollar premium on the vehicle, and it gets worse if you install a home charger.

It's niche. The cars often don't suck for what they are, but the premium for them is real, and a lot of people can't or won't try to justify paying it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:24 AM (HnUIn)

100 He better be glad this isn't Japan. The board would have had him executed.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:23 AM (SbJgO)

I've got some seppuku equipment I'll part with. Used only once.

Posted by: Zombie Yukio Mishima at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (PiwSw)

101 Good rant, Buck. Thanks.
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8 ...here is no pathway to profitability for it.

BECAUSE IT IS A MONEY LAUNDERING OPERATION.
Posted by: rickb223

This ^^

Posted by: L - And they can all x my royal Irish arse at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (GshMh)

102 Anyone else getting THC gummies (advertised by Cheech and Chong so you know they're intended to get you stoned) ads? Or it just because I'm in WA?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (xcxpd)

103 A Tesla is a very expensive very fast and fun golf cart.
Posted by: Subsidized by the taxpayers

Kinda like a Ma Duece.
Very expensive, very fast and fun, but not a gun I want to carry around every day.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (SbJgO)

104 I had this Indian co-worker who hoped to retire back to India so he went looking for a Mercedes before 1968 (?) because 1) it ran on leaded gas as there was no unleaded gas in India at the time, 2) you can get spare parts for a Mercedes in India, but getting parts for a Jeep or Ford or Chevy was nearly impossible.

Posted by: SMOD at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (RHGPo)

105 Wind is the scam of scams. Ponzi would be proud. I have yet to talk to a wind operator that is getting more than 20% utilization. I also have yet to talk to one that isn't cannibalizing the fleet, with no intentions of ever buying another.

Posted by: Factoids

Windmills are subsidized at about 30% for installation. There is no subsidy for maintenance, therefore, it isn't done.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (lTGtQ)

106 That Fisker grift is sure some sweet grift. Do nothing and walk away with a $20M Hollywood Hills mansion. Where do I sign up?

Of course that Hertz CEO makes the Fiskers look like pikers. What a stupid idiot I am every day going to work….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (gZ3KO)

107 I read an article on the awful new paint colors you see everywhere now. I'd been trying to think of how to describe them, but the article called them "clay" or "putty" and I think that sums them up nicely. Apparently, Porsche used to use such paint, and I guess everyone thinks if they buy that kind of paint, they also drive a Porsche.
Posted by: Archimedes

I've read that it was Audi that started the trend, with its "Nardo" color.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (9yWhg)

108 "My latest at The Pipeline: “Time to Put Team EV on Defense” argues that despite the initial failure of “the EV transition,” the left still wants to ban our gas cars. "

No cars, electric or ICE, that would suit the left just fine. They will be perfectly happy with no private vehicle for the commoners. Does anybody believe they would stop bitching about the damage electric are are doing to the environment if that is all we had?

Posted by: Ripley at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (JojsZ)

109 Stadiums are a racket.

I've never quite figured out why a city should buy an NFL team a stadium. The economic impact of a wealthy team owner, 53 players (mostly temporary) that vary in wealth, and eight weekends of hotel rooms and hot dog vendors ? The juice doesn't quite seem worth the squeeze.

Posted by: Factoids at March 18, 2024 11:25 AM (DQaYG)

110 I looked at rivian EV truck once....they said it had "vegan" leather seats. I have no idea what that means but I suspect it has something to do with them going out of business. Either that or the federal government subsidy $$$$ are drying up.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 18, 2024 11:26 AM (QNSds)

111 81 I read an article on the awful new paint colors you see everywhere now. I'd been trying to think of how to describe them, but the article called them "clay" or "putty" and I think that sums them up nicely. Apparently, Porsche used to use such paint, and I guess everyone thinks if they buy that kind of paint, they also drive a Porsche.
Posted by: Archimedes
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To me, that article's most interesting point was that the 'showy' colors might attract too much attention from the hoi polloi so the elites are buying drab luxury vehicle colors for blending in rather than stirring resentment.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (TPpzE)

112 =====
He knows where his bread is buttered. He attended the last two WEF forums now that he has his second term. Davos man type.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:24 AM (TPpzE)

In a bit of GOOD news, Alex Jones has Eyepatch McCain in his sights and is laying waste to him on Infowars recently.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)

113 I looked at rivian EV truck once....they said it had "vegan" leather seats.

Pleather?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (aD39U)

114 At least those two ladies in Brooklyn could go to a deli at 2:30 AM. Can probably get Thai food at 3 AM, too.

Posted by: Look On the Sunny Side at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (V5BDR)

115 "Mr. Scherr is looting the company. Hertz CEO Stephen Scherr’s total compensation of $182 million made him the third highest–paid chief executive in the U.S"

Who hired him? The Board of Directors?
What is their individual benefit from Hertz?
Have they fired themselves as well or will they hire another loser from Harvard?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (CHqTn)

116 110 I looked at rivian EV truck once....they said it had "vegan" leather seats. I have no idea what that means but I suspect it has something to do with them going out of business.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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Mebbe vegan leather is made from roadkill--thus no animal was purposefully killed for its skin.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (TPpzE)

117 A good look at Biden's Frankenstein shoes.

https://tinyurl.com/5ytb495h

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (FVME7)

118 To be fair, the state is in a better place than it would have been had construction started before Rivian goes out of business. This way, there will not be any demolition required for whatever future purpose is found for this land.
==

We could have lost a lot more money on this. Also when we get "conned" into the nest tax money bonfire it will cost slightly less to ignite those bundles of cash. So WIN-WIN. Vote for me!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (17s+e)

119 Even in the small, practical, "second car" kind of territory for those in the market, there's still a multi-thousand-dollar premium on the vehicle, and it gets worse if you install a home charger.

And it's not like its free for the one hour commute I outlined above ? You'll pay a little under $5 in electric to charge it daily, if you live in the cheaper parts of the US.

Posted by: Factoids at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (DQaYG)

120 I looked at rivian EV truck once....they said it had "vegan" leather seats.

Pleather?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (aD39U)

Cows are vegans.

Posted by: BignJames at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

121 True. I once befuzzled a local pol by commenting that a city would be better served by treating its existing businesses kindly via regulations, taxing, and essential services than subsidizing mega corp or oligarch to come in. ...
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:22 AM (TPpzE)
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That's crazy talk. Once established, they're just resources to harvested. We can't have them thinking they're important or valuable.

The new guy, though, *he* is valuable.

Local governments are like bad women who keep their husbands around to take care of the place while they go philander, except the governments do it openly and say, "you should be happy we're not burning down the family home while we court our side man."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (HnUIn)

122 U.S. Ministry of Truth @USMiniTru 9h
🚨🚨BREAKING: Donald Trump warns that there will be "Updog" if he loses the presidential election in November, @NBCNews reports.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (2yu8s)

123 they said it had "vegan" leather seats.

Well, cows do only eat grains and grass.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

124 Ah yes, the infamous Aztec/Avalanche Affair. Dreadful.
Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2024 11:17 AM (NxC5+)

Dad LOVED the avalanche. He had 2. The second one, this:

https://tinyurl.com/a8x9nadp

It was very pretty in person, but it also did not look like the normal avalanche.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:29 AM (di6C2)

125 >>they said it had "vegan" leather seats

naugahyde making a comeback?

Posted by: DanMan at March 18, 2024 11:29 AM (8uzBS)

126 REAKING: Donald Trump warns that there will be "Updog" if he loses the presidential election in November, @NBCNews reports.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (2yu8s)

John has a long mustache.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:29 AM (aD39U)

127 At least those two ladies in Brooklyn could go to a deli at 2:30 AM. Can probably get Thai food at 3 AM, too.
Posted by: Look On the Sunny Side at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (V5BDR)

But, they told me that Laken Riley would be ALIVE TODAY if she'd only have jogged with a PARTNER......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (Zz0t1)

128 >>they said it had "vegan" leather seats

naugahyde making a comeback?
Posted by: DanMan at March 18, 2024 11:29 AM

Will no one think of the naughahs?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (5sOEG)

129 Who hired him? The Board of Directors?
What is their individual benefit from Hertz?
Have they fired themselves as well or will they hire another loser from Harvard?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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That is one of the reasons that corporations suck as a form of governance without a strong individual at the helm. Mediocre CEO's in biz serve on multiple corporate boards and share in the looting of the stockholders' equity with the CEO.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (TPpzE)

130 drab luxury vehicle colors for blending in rather than stirring resentment.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (TPpzE)

I think some of them look pretty good. I doubt I would buy a car painted in that style, but it's an interesting change.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (tChwj)

131 naugahyde making a comeback?
Posted by: DanMan at March 18, 2024 11:29 AM (8uzBS)

I doubt it. The Nauga were hunted to extinction in the last century.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (aD39U)

132 naugahyde making a comeback?
Posted by: DanMan

The naugas all died out due to climate change.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (9yWhg)

133 The Biden administration is expected this week to finalize highly anticipated regulations targeting gas-powered vehicle tailpipe emissions, considered the tip of the spear in its efforts to electrify the transportation sector. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is slated to issue the final rulemaking — which officials have boasted will incentivize greater adoption of electric vehicles (EV), but which opponents have criticized as a de facto mandate — as soon as Wednesday

Posted by: SMOD at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)

134 Spuming up Ketanji Brown Jacksons' viewpoint: Seriously, we need more government coercion. There's too much conservative, oops, I mean misinformation out there.

Posted by: WisRich at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (G0vdT)

135 I've read that it was Audi that started the trend, with its "Nardo" color.

According to Google, that color was introduced in 2013. IIRC, the article described Porsches with that paint in the 60s.

To me, that article's most interesting point was that the 'showy' colors might attract too much attention from the hoi polloi so the elites are buying drab luxury vehicle colors for blending in rather than stirring resentment.

If so, they failed. I notice every car with the putty paint jobs.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (CsUN+)

136 I looked at rivian EV truck once....they said it had "vegan" leather seats. I have no idea what that means but I suspect it has something to do with them going out of business.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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Mebbe vegan leather is made from roadkill--thus no animal was purposefully killed for its skin.
Posted by: whig

Vegan leather = plain old vinyl seats.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (SbJgO)

137 Dad LOVED the avalanche. He had 2.

Poor guy. He wanted an El Camino, yet once again, the market failed to deliver on demand.

Posted by: Factoids at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (DQaYG)

138 Test.

Posted by: spindrift at March 18, 2024 11:31 AM (OguvZ)

139 add 30 kWhr PER DAY to your bill. D

A kWh is about, what, $0.10? (Last time I looked, mine was like 6.3 cents, but that was a while ago and super-cheap.)

So, $3.00 more per day, $90, call it $100 more per month. $1200 a year.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 18, 2024 11:31 AM (ufFY8)

140 The mindless drones simply repeat the line about oil and gas subsidies, and have not the foggiest notion what they're talking about.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 18, 2024 11:22 AM (CsUN+)

In fairness, they generally don't know what they're talking about on any other subject either.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:31 AM (zhLdt)

141 Coincidentally enough, he sold $20 million worth of stock right about the time he was buying the $21 million mansion in Hollywood Hills. The stock he sold at $9.50 per share is now worth 15 cents per share.

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'Cause a man with a briefcase
Can steal more money
Than any man with a gun

Posted by: ShainS -- Neo-Dissident (A psychpathocracy, if you can keep it) at March 18, 2024 11:31 AM (pfFc5)

142 Mebbe vegan leather is made from roadkill--thus no animal was purposefully killed for its skin.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (TPpzE)
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"Vegan leather" is a contradiction and so you know what is actually going on: it's not leather. I'm surprised that they can get away with calling it that. Other fake substitute "vegan" goods have to call it something else like "chikin" or "cheeze" or the like.

"Vegan leather" is usually, IIRC, made out of mushrooms. I have no idea how well it holds up. The good stuff is pretty nice to the touch. It might be a viable material. I have no idea. But the key benefit to leather besides feel is durability and cleanability. I don't know if the "vegan leathers" measure up in the latter two categories.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:31 AM (HnUIn)

143 Dad LOVED the avalanche. He had 2. The second one, this:

https://tinyurl.com/a8x9nadp

It was very pretty in person, but it also did not look like the normal avalanche.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:29 AM (di6C2)

Moderately useless trucks who's plastic dash would crack and rattle within the first 40,000 miles. Don't even look at the plastic trim everywhere that turns grey within a couple years.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

144 Assets must be seized, of course a lot of seizures will occur. Paging Pfizer seizure med division,

Posted by: Pfeizer seizure division calling. at March 18, 2024 11:31 AM (LcRVs)

145 110 I looked at rivian EV truck once....they said it had "vegan" leather seats. I have no idea what that means but I suspect it has something to do with them going out of business. Either that or the federal government subsidy $$$$ are drying up.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 18, 2024 11:26 AM (QNSds)

Which means pleather. You'd be surprised how little leather is in actual 'real' leather seats though. The standard for one manufacturer is that only the panels directly coming in contact with the driver have to be leather for them to be called a leather option. All the other panels can be whatever.

However, when you have all the different varieties side by side and can touch them, there is a world of difference.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:31 AM (di6C2)

146 I looked at rivian EV truck once....they said it had "vegan" leather seats. I have no idea what that means but I suspect it has something to do with them going out of business. Either that or the federal government subsidy $$$$ are drying up.

Posted by: Mister Scott

Vegan leather seats means the cows ate grass instead of meat.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (lTGtQ)

147 Cows are vegans.
Posted by: BignJames

Not entirely. There are recorded incidents of cows eating chickens, due to some kind of extreme nutritional deficiency.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (9yWhg)

148 Local governments are like bad women who keep their husbands around to take care of the place while they go philander, except the governments do it openly and say, "you should be happy we're not burning down the family home while we court our side man."
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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That reading of the situation is actually biblical. You see Israel's kings and leaders being excoriated for acting just as you say above.

Well said.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (TPpzE)

149 Moderately useless trucks who's plastic dash would crack and rattle within the first 40,000 miles. Don't even look at the plastic trim everywhere that turns grey within a couple years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

Dad's did pretty well and he drove it over 300k miles.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (di6C2)

150 I just bought a new car. I looked at the electric model for about 5 minutes because it was less than what I ended up buying and because my commute is 3.5 miles. And then bought the most impractical little turbo convertible with a roar that sounds like those videos of lion cubs trying out their pipes. It couldn’t be more me. 😂

Posted by: Piper at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (ZdaMQ)

151 naugahyde making a comeback?
Posted by: DanMan at March 18, 2024 11:29 AM (8uzBS)

I doubt it. The Nauga were hunted to extinction in the last century.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Where did you go Ricardo Montalban? The world casts it lonely eyes towards your Rich Corinthian Pleather.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (SbJgO)

152 To me, that article's most interesting point was that the 'showy' colors might attract too much attention from the hoi polloi so the elites are buying drab luxury vehicle colors for blending in rather than stirring resentment.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (TPpzE)

Ironically, the colors *do* stand out because of their ugliness. That does answer my question of "Why would you get such a nice car in such an ugly color?" when I first saw one.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (XjtdB)

153 Vegan leather = plain old vinyl seats.
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So Petroleum hides.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (hWxEy)

154 A kWh is about, what, $0.10? (Last time I looked, mine was like 6.3 cents, but that was a while ago and super-cheap.)

Mine is up to .16, and I live well under the national average of .20. We haven't had dime a kWhr electric for at least a decade.

Posted by: Factoids at March 18, 2024 11:33 AM (DQaYG)

155 Ad-world suggest otherwise. All the car ads I see are for ALL ELECTRIC (insert model name here).

Guess businesses want to learn the hard way.

Just remember when they start taking catastrophic losses, it’s due to bad business decisions.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 18, 2024 11:33 AM (LqqGi)

156 The two massive EV battery assembly plants here in Glendale, KY have turned into quite the disaster. There are environmental concerns at the one under construction and the other plant is on hold.

Plus the locals who were told they're quality of life would be better, they'd get rich and so on have figured out that was all utter bullshit spouted by the county and state to con the rubes.

They're finding out they were duly conned.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 18, 2024 11:33 AM (Q4IgG)

157 "Vegan leather" is usually, IIRC, made out of mushrooms.
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Fitting, mushrooms are grown in shit so tote's organic in points.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:34 AM (TPpzE)

158 I'm beginning to think Ford may not survive. Nobody's buying their Lightnings, but guess what--nobody's buying their overpriced ICE F150's either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeGtILtbs2Y&t=4s

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 18, 2024 11:34 AM (woPEM)

159 LOL:

zerohedge @zerohedge 15h
51 former intelligence officials sign a letter saying Trump's "bloodbath" remark was an endorsement of political violence

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:34 AM (2yu8s)

160 Cows are vegans.
Posted by: BignJames

Not entirely. There are recorded incidents of cows eating chickens, due to some kind of extreme nutritional deficiency.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I just got a crazy idea for a McDonald's ad campaign.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 18, 2024 11:34 AM (lTGtQ)

161 Not entirely. There are recorded incidents of cows eating chickens, due to some kind of extreme nutritional deficiency.

For the most part herbivores aren't herbivores because they won't eat meat its because they are terrible hunters.

I saw a squirrel run by with a baby bird in its mouth the other day...probably a lot more nutrients then an acorn.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2024 11:34 AM (ibTVg)

162 Depending on the car, states
Like Cali are offering up to $5k tax credits on top of the $7500 federal credit. $12,500 off. Take that and use it towards a lease and it’s almost a free 2 year lease.

Posted by: Montec at March 18, 2024 11:34 AM (4+s9S)

163 Cows are vegans.

Don't kid yourself, Jimmy. If given the chance a cow would eat you and everyone you love.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:34 AM (aD39U)

164 Not entirely. There are recorded incidents of cows eating chickens, due to some kind of extreme nutritional deficiency.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (9yWhg)

How could a cow catch a chicken?

Posted by: BignJames at March 18, 2024 11:34 AM (AwYPR)

165 I have linked this kind of thing before, but Nebraska parking lot in the 60s:

https://tinyurl.com/f73yvx7a

Notice something?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (di6C2)

166 142 Mebbe vegan leather is made from roadkill--thus no animal was purposefully killed for its skin.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM

The fake leather version available for my car is called “leatherette”.

Posted by: Piper at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (ZdaMQ)

167 Mebbe vegan leather is made from roadkill--thus no animal was purposefully killed for its skin.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:28 AM (TPpzE)

One of the sources is pineapple leaves. As with most vegan products, I suspect a lot of chemicals and pollution go into creating the final product.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (XjtdB)

168 The drab car thing isn't new, it's just variation on a theme.

Next time you're on the road, look around. Most cars on the road are black, red or the color of twilight.

The twilight cars are usually dominant. Light gray or dark gray, sometimes with color involved (e.g., gray-blue, gray-green, gray-red).

I think it's for the same reason as the generic colors and the like people choose for houses: resale. "I'd like the bedroom to be yellow, but then I'll just have to repaint if I go to sell the house, so I'll paint it eggshell instead" is the same basic problem, I suspect.

Dealers have to stock the lot, and nobody wants a forest green car to sit around for three months longer than a twilight car. The generic is easy to sell. Nobody will ever love it, but almost nobody will be offended by it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (HnUIn)

169 No one wants a knee in the Nardo.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (2yu8s)

170 Hasn't Musk turned his $44 billion Twitter into $22 billion aptly named X?

Posted by: torabora at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (/DSmj)

171 Begging our adversaries to just leave us alone hasn’t worked. Let them beg us to leave them alone. Only then should we consider allowing them to keep their E.V.s. -- for a price.

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Great idea, Buck -- I hope it catches fire like an EV on a cargo vessel full of EVs!

* And Ace's excellent post on Game Theory from a few years ago has entered the chat once again *

Posted by: ShainS -- Neo-Dissident (A psychpathocracy, if you can keep it) at March 18, 2024 11:36 AM (pfFc5)

172 Vegan leather, plant-based meat, transwomam.

They're all just one thing lying about being another thing.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at March 18, 2024 11:36 AM (fKIdX)

173 Ironically, the colors *do* stand out because of their ugliness. That does answer my question of "Why would you get such a nice car in such an ugly color?" when I first saw one.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
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Elites must have conveniently forgot the charming auto colors of the seventies. Mud brown Pintos are one of the things that come to mind along with Toxic Green Slime AMC Gremlins.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:36 AM (TPpzE)

174 I've never quite figured out why a city should buy an NFL team a stadium.

It's not my money. -- NFL city mayor

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:36 AM (zhLdt)

175 Non GMO, lactose free, BHT and gluten free vegan leather seats.

Pretty selective marketing there.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 18, 2024 11:36 AM (17s+e)

176 The digital sports media company said it and owner Authentic Brands have agreed to a "long-term partnership" to run the iconic publication. The owner of "Sports Illustrated" came to an agreement with digital media company Minute Media, officials said Monday, to operate the iconic magazine, two months after mass layoffs appeared to signal the publication's demise.

Posted by: SMOD at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM (RHGPo)

177 I have a list of suggestions for red states and President Trump, which include requiring a giant warning label on the hood of every EV cautioning that foreign slaves and child labor were used to source the rare earth minerals in the car.

my fading memory tells me that back in the day ripley's "believe it or not" claimed that london used to require that horseless carriages be accompanied by people walking before and behind waving red flags. i.e., such a thing wouldn't be unprecedented.

Posted by: anachronda at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM (v3pYe)

178 Who hired him? The Board of Directors?
What is their individual benefit from Hertz?
Have they fired themselves as well or will they hire another loser from Harvard?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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That is one of the reasons that corporations suck as a form of governance without a strong individual at the helm. Mediocre CEO's in biz serve on multiple corporate boards and share in the looting of the stockholders' equity with the CEO.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (TPpzE)
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Once you are in the club - the club is always right. Never have seen a place of more group think than there. Criticism is rarely broached, and never respected.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM (GZYu7)

179 That reading of the situation is actually biblical. You see Israel's kings and leaders being excoriated for acting just as you say above.

Well said.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:32 AM (TPpzE)

Ahab and Jezebel? Our pastor preached about Elijah’s epic confrontation with the prophets of Baal yesterday; and his subsequent freakout after Jezebel threatened his life in the aftermath. One of my favorite stories in the OT

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM (gZ3KO)

180 The fake leather version available for my car is called “leatherette”.
Posted by: Piper at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (ZdaMQ)

Is it warm?

Posted by: The Normal at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM (aD39U)

181
170 Hasn't Musk turned his $44 billion Twitter into $22 billion aptly named X?
Posted by: torabora at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (/DSmj)

Nobody knows since it’s a private company now. If you believe leftists though, Twitter was on the verge of going under a year ago. So yeah they all lie, always.

Posted by: Montec at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM (4+s9S)

182 I see a news story that one of the "newcomers" raped a 14 year old girl in Mass.

Remember though he's just raping the girls that Americans won't. Really its an act of love as Jeb Bush would say

Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM (ibTVg)

183 I'd say white and silver dominate car colours here.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:38 AM (2yu8s)

184 ...they said it had "vegan" leather seats. I have no idea what that means...

The cows who's skins were used only ate plants. More likely, though, it meant they slaughtered nauga by the tens.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:38 AM (zhLdt)

185 Vegan leather = plain old vinyl seats.
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So Petroleum hides.

Posted by: Pudinhead

Everywhere, in plain sight, invisible to green whackos.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at March 18, 2024 11:38 AM (hCzfy)

186 Naugas once roamed the plains in vast numbers. The native population only harvested what they needed and used all parts of the Nauga. Wypipo hunted them to extinction-all to upholster Pintos and Vegas and cheap couches. Horrific crime against nature and the environment.

Posted by: Chief Wacky Wig at March 18, 2024 11:38 AM (V5BDR)

187 Hasn't Musk turned his $44 billion Twitter into $22 billion aptly named X?

Posted by: torabora at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (/DSmj)

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It could potentially be worth $0 if F. Joe Mugabe bans it per the TikTok ~~trojan horse~~ bill.

Posted by: ShainS -- Neo-Dissident (A psychpathocracy, if you can keep it) at March 18, 2024 11:38 AM (pfFc5)

188 I see a news story that one of the "newcomers" raped a 14 year old girl in Mass.

Remember though he's just raping the girls that Americans won't. Really its an act of love as Jeb Bush would say
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM (ibTVg)

People like him built this country.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at March 18, 2024 11:39 AM (fKIdX)

189 173 Elites must have conveniently forgot the charming auto colors of the seventies. Mud brown Pintos are one of the things that come to mind along with Toxic Green Slime AMC Gremlins.

once saw a pinto that was exactly the same color as pepto-bismol.

Posted by: anachronda at March 18, 2024 11:39 AM (v3pYe)

190 I've never quite figured out why a city should buy an NFL team a stadium.

—

Because even though it’s been disproven a million times, owners still push the “economic benefits” the stadium will bring. And mayors of big cities are Democrats who are both stupid and gullible.

Oh and the graft!!

Posted by: Montec at March 18, 2024 11:39 AM (4+s9S)

191 A kWh is about, what, $0.10? (Last time I looked, mine was like 6.3 cents, but that was a while ago and super-cheap.)

Mine is up to .16, and I live well under the national average of .20. We haven't had dime a kWhr electric for at least a decade.
Posted by: Factoids

.15. Last month's bill is $103.69 for 664 kWh.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:39 AM (SbJgO)

192 Vegan leather = plain old vinyl seats.
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So Petroleum hides.

Then: Ban fossil fuels

Now: Except the seats in my new EV

Posted by: AWFLs at March 18, 2024 11:39 AM (ibTVg)

193 108
‘ Does anybody believe they would stop bitching…’

Since they are constitutionally unhappy people and their real goal is control; No, I don’t expect them to stop bitching.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 18, 2024 11:40 AM (jbnUc)

194 Joe "The Fish" Scarborough: "I've Never Really Heard People Discuss Macroeconomics in Terms of Bloodbaths"

Slow growth is a win amid ‘bloodbath’ in the retail supply market, says Lever Style CEO

Trump warns of ‘bloodbath’ for auto industry and country if he loses the election

Twitter 'bloodbath' will end soon-—tech stocks—commentary - CNBC

Posted by: SMOD at March 18, 2024 11:40 AM (RHGPo)

195 Notice something?

Posted by: Aetius451AD

I see a lot of what old timers used to call station wagons.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 18, 2024 11:40 AM (lTGtQ)

196 This bespectacled brunette wouldn't mind having a fun EV performance car to play around with when the mood strikes her - as long as it wasn't only her only vehicle, of course:
http://tiny.cc/3mujxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:40 AM (HnUIn)

197 The fake leather version available for my car is called “leatherette”.
Posted by: Piper at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (ZdaMQ)

Is it warm?
Posted by: The Normal

As a mother in law.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:41 AM (SbJgO)

198 >>Moderately useless trucks who's plastic dash would crack and rattle within the first 40,000 miles. Don't even look at the plastic trim everywhere that turns grey within a couple years.

if you have Chevy/GMC from 2009 to 2015 you know all about bullshit upholstery. Try to find a Tahoe/Suburban driver's door panel intact from those years.

Posted by: DanMan at March 18, 2024 11:41 AM (8uzBS)

199 Once you are in the club - the club is always right. Never have seen a place of more group think than there. Criticism is rarely broached, and never respected.
Posted by: Black JEM
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Managerialism at its finest. They got where they were by playing politics instead of knowledge, integrity, and competence. That sort of leader scares the shit out of the corporate types.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:41 AM (TPpzE)

200
*Cows are vegans*

https://youtube.com/shorts/KZb6Rmv3rjA

Posted by: Not always at March 18, 2024 11:41 AM (dg+HA)

201 Gov. Kemp’s largest and most visibly bad communist public-private investment – a boondoggle for which he pledged $1.5 billion of Georgia taxpayer money

Finally.
Someone outdoes the WPPSS...Washington Public Power Supply System, aka Whoops.
The state's stab at nuclear power. Thousands lost millions.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 18, 2024 11:41 AM (W/lyH)

202 Joe "The Fish" Scarborough: "I've Never Really Heard People Discuss Macroeconomics in Terms of Bloodbaths"

ZH has one story with a headline along the line of "bloodbath" in some financial market every day. Some of the time their editors come up with the title but usually they take it straight from some financial pundit.

Scarborough is a liar AND an idiot.

Posted by: AWFLs at March 18, 2024 11:41 AM (ibTVg)

203
I always thought cows were serene and not vicious. I was wrong.

A friend and her husband were moving their cattle in Wyoming. One cow went crazy and my friend was knocked off her horse is now crippled for life.

Elsie the cow is a myth.

Posted by: four seasons at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (PisyI)

204 EV's are proof that just because someone is gullible and stoopid does not mean that they are poor.

Wonder what the next stoopid thing that will come down the pike to take their money.

I point and laugh.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (MHhQj)

205 190 I've never quite figured out why a city should buy an NFL team a stadium.

I’m told by useful idiots that ache for high speed rail in TX that it will be a “game changer”, a huge economic miracle, etc.

Wanna piss them off? Ask them “how so”. And mention CA.

The arguments for stadia remind me of the high speed rail talk.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (LqqGi)

206 Dealers have to stock the lot, and nobody wants a forest green car to sit around for three months longer than a twilight car. The generic is easy to sell. Nobody will ever love it, but almost nobody will be offended by it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (HnUIn)

Heh. My Wrangler is forest green. She also just turned old enough to drink legally.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (T+Iwg)

207 Want a racket? I got a great one...
Here in the Mayhem area we are in the path of totality for the upcoming eclipse. The Monroe County fairground is holding an event that day that may include an appearance by William Shatner. They are expecting 300,000 people. Every hotel is booked up and charging $300 to $400 dollars per night. Even a small hotel in the middle of nowhere (it's literally in a former cornfield) that usually charges about $80 per night is getting $350 per night for the eclipse weekend. Sheriff offices all over the area are recommending that locals stock up on food, water, and medications then hunker down and stay off the roads. The schools are closing for that day and making bank by offering their parking lots as viewing stations.
Hubbymayhem is a truck driver and he is using his last available vacation day to avoid the psychosis on the roads.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (cRrcX)

208 San Francisco city officials plan to pull its offices from a downtown building near City Hall due to high rent and a bad real estate market, The San Francisco Standard reported Friday. The 11-story building in downtown San Francisco was initially leased to city and county officials back in 1999 and has over the years served as office space for many municipal departments like the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission, Office of the Treasurer & Tax Collector, the Mayor’s Office of Disability and the Department of the Environment, the outlet reported.

.. great way to lower your rent .. destroy the real estate market

Posted by: SMOD at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (RHGPo)

209 180
Is it warm?
Posted by: The Normal at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM

I don’t know, I got the real leather option, though it’s a blend like most are for durability. It’s quilted and the color of a baseball glove.

Posted by: Piper at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (ZdaMQ)

210 I have never bothered known what my electricity costs because .. what ya gonna do?

But, looking at my bill it appears that I pay 13.9 cents/kwh.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (aD39U)

211 You may not be able to get a Rivian anymore, but you can still pick up a Porsche. Their 1092 hp "Taycan TurboGT" EV is only $230,000. (how do you 'turbo' an EV?)

I'm guessing you're essentially shorting the battery when you push the pedal all the way down and that one lap on the Nurburgring is its maximum range.

Posted by: t-bird at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (5q/cj)

212 Toxic Green Slime AMC Gremlins.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:36 AM (TPpzE)

Those are so awful as to be nearly cute though. These new ones look like a sleek car covered in Bondo that the owner was too lazy to paint.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 18, 2024 11:43 AM (XjtdB)

213 We'll make it up on volume!

Posted by: Brian Kemp at March 18, 2024 11:43 AM (woPEM)

214 I always thought cows were serene and not vicious. I was wrong.

A friend and her husband were moving their cattle in Wyoming. One cow went crazy and my friend was knocked off her horse is now crippled for life.

Elsie the cow is a myth.
Posted by: four seasons

Dairy cows mostly are. Beef cows are a completely different animal.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:43 AM (SbJgO)

215 With Scherr’s resume, his global-communist agenda, and degrees from Princeton and Harvard, poor Hertz doesn’t stand a chance with him at the helm. And, of course, as Hertz hemorrhages money and its stock price collapses, Mr. Scherr is looting the company. Hertz CEO Stephen Scherr’s total compensation of $182 million made him the third highest–paid chief executive in the U.S., according to executive-pay-data and analytics company C-Suite Comp used in a report from the Wall Street Journal.

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But we shouldn't tax these shitheads incompetents who are obviously benefiting from a rigged system. Because all those rich people got where they are solely on their own merit and they are the most productive members of society.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 18, 2024 11:43 AM (++4z6)

216 ... causing the company to take a $245 million hit for his virtuously inept management.

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"Virtuously Inept" it's a good turn of phrase and would be a great name for a rock band.

Posted by: ShainS -- Neo-Dissident (A psychpathocracy, if you can keep it) at March 18, 2024 11:43 AM (pfFc5)

217 142 "Vegan leather" is a contradiction and so you know what is actually going on: it's not leather.

ah. transleather.

Posted by: anachronda at March 18, 2024 11:44 AM (v3pYe)

218 *Cows are vegans*

https://youtube.com/shorts/KZb6Rmv3rjA

Look at the tongue on that thing.

Does anyone know how I can contact the cow?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 18, 2024 11:44 AM (CsUN+)

219 Warm Leatherette

https://ytube.io/3rdh

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18, 2024 11:44 AM (aD39U)

220 Why aren't there clawbacks in the legislation?

Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2024 11:44 AM (ZiwLX)

221 EV's should have to be smog tested since no car should be above the law.

Posted by: torabora at March 18, 2024 11:44 AM (/DSmj)

222 Toxic Green Slime AMC Gremlins.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:36 AM (TPpzE)

Those are so awful as to be nearly cute though. These new ones look like a sleek car covered in Bondo that the owner was too lazy to paint.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

AMC pacer looks like someone farted in the car with the windows rolled up.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:44 AM (SbJgO)

223 Dairy cows mostly are. Beef cows are a completely different animal.
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Yep.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 18, 2024 11:45 AM (hWxEy)

224 If Georgia were smart...not sure they are, they'd find two or three of the more successful Quad Copter companies and lure them there. They aren't likely to crash.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 18, 2024 11:45 AM (W/lyH)

225 (how do you 'turbo' an EV?)

Back in the day, my 486 PC had a button on it for that.

Posted by: spindrift at March 18, 2024 11:45 AM (OguvZ)

226 Dairy cows mostly are. Beef cows are a completely different animal.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:43 AM (SbJgO)
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Been around dairy cows - there are mean ones of those as well.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 18, 2024 11:45 AM (GZYu7)

227 I see a news story that one of the "newcomers" raped a 14 year old girl in Mass.

Remember though he's just raping the girls that Americans won't. Really its an act of love as Jeb Bush would say
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2024 11:37 AM (ibTVg)

People like him built this country.
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at March 18, 2024 11:39 AM (fKIdX)

He brought her his spark of the divine.

Posted by: Robert at March 18, 2024 11:45 AM (sqiOS)

228 Ahab and Jezebel? Our pastor preached about Elijah’s epic confrontation with the prophets of Baal yesterday; and his subsequent freakout after Jezebel threatened his life in the aftermath. One of my favorite stories in the OT
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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They were an extreme example but yes. Unfortunately, you get a whole string of depressing kings and leaders through much of Judah's and Israel's (the Northern kingdom) existence brightened only by a few leaders who tried to restore good governance and faith among the people.

A nation rots from the head. Leaders misdeeds inevitably lead to the overall deterioration of society and its ability to defend itself.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:46 AM (TPpzE)

229 I see a lot of what old timers used to call station wagons.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 18, 2024 11:40 AM (lTGtQ)

That too. I was mostly pointing out the color variety, but the station wagon shows: people have always wanted an SUV like vehicle that can do multiple things. SUVs also give them a height advantage which people like.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:46 AM (di6C2)

230 Saw a purple AMC AMX the other day. Mint condition too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 18, 2024 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)

231 Naugas once roamed the plains in vast numbers. The native population only harvested what they needed and used all parts of the Nauga. Wypipo hunted them to extinction-all to upholster Pintos and Vegas and cheap couches. Horrific crime against nature and the environment.

Posted by: Chief Wacky Wig at March 18, 2024 11:38 AM

The plaid ones were the most sought after and the first to disappear.....

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 18, 2024 11:46 AM (QNSds)

232 That is one of the reasons that corporations suck as a form of governance without a strong individual at the helm. Mediocre CEO's in biz serve on multiple corporate boards and share in the looting of the stockholders' equity with the CEO.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:30 AM (TPpzE)

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It's why I think that it should be illegal to serve on more than one board of directors.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 18, 2024 11:46 AM (++4z6)

233 have linked this kind of thing before, but Nebraska parking lot in the 60s:

https://tinyurl.com/f73yvx7a

Notice something?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

The lot is full of big boats that drove like crap?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 18, 2024 11:46 AM (CHqTn)

234 206 Dealers have to stock the lot, and nobody wants a forest green car to sit around for three months longer than a twilight car. The generic is easy to sell. Nobody will ever love it, but almost nobody will be offended by it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:35 AM (HnUIn)

Heh. My Wrangler is forest green. She also just turned old enough to drink legally.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (T+Iwg)

British Racing Green!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:46 AM (di6C2)

235 211 You may not be able to get a Rivian anymore, but you can still pick up a Porsche. Their 1092 hp "Taycan TurboGT" EV is only $230,000. (how do you 'turbo' an EV?)

I'm guessing you're essentially shorting the battery when you push the pedal all the way down and that one lap on the Nurburgring is its maximum range.
Posted by: t-bird at March 18, 2024 11:42 AM (5q/cj)

The turbo trim is just code for fastest version. Every Porsche is now a turbo engine. But back in the day turbo meant turbo. And they still keep the word to signify “fastest”.

Oh and there’s a Turbo S as well as an S, which is also a Turbo but a few trim levels down. To make it even more confusing.

Posted by: Montec at March 18, 2024 11:47 AM (4+s9S)

236 The lot is full of big boats that drove like crap?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 18, 2024 11:46 AM (CHqTn)

But they were stylish barges.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:47 AM (di6C2)

237 I have linked this kind of thing before, but Nebraska parking lot in the 60s:

https://tinyurl.com/f73yvx7a

Notice something?
_____________

Nobody backed into their spot.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 18, 2024 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)

238 Those are so awful as to be nearly cute though. These new ones look like a sleek car covered in Bondo that the owner was too lazy to paint.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
========
Good pithy description. Most excellent.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:47 AM (TPpzE)

239 Biden-Harris HQ @BidenHQ Mar 17
Biden-Harris campaign statement on Trump tonight promising a “bloodbath” if he loses
https://tinyurl.com/2c95b7pu
[screencap of statement]

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 14h
Biden-Harris are calling for violence against Trump and his supporters, based on their own Democrat hoax.

I interpret the Democrats' Hitler/dictator/threat to democracy/bloodbath hoaxes as priming the public for violence.

"They always blame you for what they are doing." -- Tucker.
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And WTF is with Black but not Brown too?? Racists.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:47 AM (2yu8s)

240 The last time I looked rates here were about 6C/kw. I no longer a bill so I can't look at it. Its probably around between 7 and 9 cents/kw. I'll try to find it on the internet.

Posted by: vic at March 18, 2024 11:47 AM (A5THL)

241 *Cows are vegans*

https://youtube.com/shorts/KZb6Rmv3rjA
Posted by: Not always at March 18, 2024 11:41 AM (dg+HA)

that's some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

242 219 Warm Leatherette

https://ytube.io/3rdh
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 18

Thank you for saving me from me. I will go hide my head in shame that I not only missed this, but then described my real seats that no one even asked about. 🤣

Posted by: Piper at March 18, 2024 11:47 AM (ZdaMQ)

243 Nobody backed into their spot.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 18, 2024 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)

Hah!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:48 AM (di6C2)

244 I was doing contractor work for a European EV charging company that was setting up a manufacturing operation in the Chicago area. Governor Fatass made a special effort to get the plant here in 2020.

It was the most amateurish operation I've ever seen in my years in manufacturing. The products themselves were easily hacked and were basically held together with strategically placed neodymium disk batteries.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 18, 2024 11:48 AM (YIxO9)

245 San Francisco city officials plan to pull its offices from a downtown building near City Hall due to high rent and a bad real estate market, The San Francisco Standard reported Friday.

What worries me most is if San Francisco keeps declining into an unlivable democrat shithole, which it is, will the sodomites who love the place leave or can they be forced to stay.

Thoe Horror, The Horror...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 18, 2024 11:48 AM (MHhQj)

246 British Racing Green!
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Always liked that color. The Germans got grey I think in that racing scheme.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:48 AM (TPpzE)

247 You call that love in French, but it's just Frenchette.
I've been to France, so let's just dance.

Posted by: David Johansen at March 18, 2024 11:49 AM (V5BDR)

248 kWh is about, what, $0.10? (Last time I looked, mine was like 6.3 cents, but that was a while ago and super-cheap.)

Mine is up to .16, and I live well under the national average of .20. We haven't had dime a kWhr electric for at least a decade.
Posted by: Factoids
===

You was lucky! In Peoples Democrat Republic of Kalifornia electricity at lowest cost tier is 32 cents per KW. Up from 14 cents/KW since 2017. Because democrats are for the poor people... for fucking the poor people.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 18, 2024 11:49 AM (17s+e)

249
EVs don't work in places like Wyoming.

Posted by: four seasons at March 18, 2024 11:49 AM (PisyI)

250 Been around dairy cows - there are mean ones of those as well.
Posted by: Black JEM

There are always exceptions to the rule.

Dairy cows - calves are removed from mamas because they forget about them

Beef cows:
City people- let's pet the baby
Rancher - there's a reason he isn't ear tagged.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:49 AM (SbJgO)

251 If Georgia were smart...not sure they are, they'd find two or three of the more successful Quad Copter companies and lure them there. They aren't likely to crash.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 18, 2024 11:45 AM (W/lyH)

Georgia govt may not be smart, but Georgia does have Kirby Smart!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 18, 2024 11:49 AM (gZ3KO)

252 It's why I think that it should be illegal to serve on more than one board of directors.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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I agree. Interlocking directorates were one of the corporate means of consolidated control by the likes of Rockefeller etc.

Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:50 AM (TPpzE)

253 .15. Last month's bill is $103.69 for 664 kWh.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:39 AM (SbJgO)

Just looked at mine.
9.02 cents per kWh, plus a readiness charge of $11.75, plus fucking sales tax of $2.70. (Thanks, Whitmer )

$70.28 for 619 kWh.

I never complain about my electrical service.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 18, 2024 11:50 AM (ufFY8)

254 Traditionally, BRG is a flat green (can be polished of course) without metal flake in the paint.

This is a good example.

https://tinyurl.com/3au8pz35

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:50 AM (di6C2)

255
Back in the day, my 486 PC had a button on it for that.
Posted by: spindrift at March 18, 2024 11:45 AM (OguvZ)

My 8086 had a 3 finger salute to go from 8 Mhz to 12.5 Mhz.

I think it was ctrl-alt-left shift, then it would make this rabid beeping sound to let you know you just unleashed the hounds.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

256 Greta Gupta - great name for a nursery. rhyme.

Greta Gupta, puddin' and pie
Bought a mansion in the sky
When the bills came due to pay
Greta Gupta ran away

Posted by: Muldoon at March 18, 2024 11:50 AM (991eG)

257 Greta Gupta, puddin' and pie
Bought a mansion in the sky
When the bills came due to pay
Greta Gupta ran away
Posted by: Muldoon at March 18, 2024 11:50 AM (991eG)
++++
LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:50 AM (HnUIn)

258 Been around dairy cows - there are mean ones of those as well.
Posted by: Black JEM at March 18, 2024 11:45 AM (GZYu7)

Well, grab one of Joe.Mannix's ladies by the udders and watch those sultry come hither smiles.disappear in a flash.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 18, 2024 11:51 AM (W/lyH)

259 My new Nissan is BRG. Love that color. Or "colour" if you will.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 18, 2024 11:51 AM (YIxO9)

260 Why aren't there clawbacks in the legislation?

Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2024 11:44 AM

All of this bull$hit goes back the Kelo vs. The City of New London Development Corporation case when SCOTUS said sure you can seize private property and give it to a corporation.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 18, 2024 11:51 AM (QNSds)

261 When you're sweaty, if you shift around on your leatherette, you can make some ripping fart noises and upset the girls.

Posted by: Jubilant Delinquent at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (V5BDR)

262 have linked this kind of thing before, but Nebraska parking lot in the 60s:

https://tinyurl.com/f73yvx7a

Notice something?

Yes, and Pennsylvania still hasn't gotten over the loss of the Conestoga Wagon industry to those newfangled machines.

Posted by: t-bird at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (5q/cj)

263 And no, the new car is not an EV. I tooled my family around in a Chevy Bolt loaner and the whole crew got carsick.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (YIxO9)

264 Paige Spiranac is a racket.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (9yWhg)

265 A nation rots from the head. Leaders misdeeds inevitably lead to the overall deterioration of society and its ability to defend itself.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:46 AM (TPpzE)

Especially depressing is how rare two righteous kings in a row were. Pretty obvious that Daddy Righteous King was *not* in charge of teaching his sons how to do things right.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (XjtdB)

266 WaPo has a spin on this today, seen in my phone's stock app:

EVs have never been cheaper!

Because dealers are offering multi-thousand-dollar discounts, because all the True Believers have bought one already, and nobody else wants to.

Posted by: mikeski at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (tvfnl)

267
I was outside at the local Toyota dealer last week and walked down a row of about 100 Rav's for sale and the color choices were black, white, or gray. That's it.

People don't seem to like color anymore.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 18, 2024 11:53 AM (RKVpM)

268 Paige Spiranac is a racket.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (9yWhg)

You misspelled 'has a significantly large implanted rack.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

269 Too bad, they made a pair of really good scissors. RIP.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 18, 2024 11:53 AM (4p0Xq)

270 So Fisked has a new meaning.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 18, 2024 11:54 AM (4p0Xq)

271
My Gupta hurts.

My Geeta is not much better

Posted by: Mr Fishkar Puddin Pie at March 18, 2024 11:54 AM (NtVYv)

272 Where do the charging stations go in the neighborhoods of expensive - $600/$700K and up - row houses that are being built, after tearing down all the damn trees, throughout the Mid-Atlantic states (and now Georgia too) in semi-suburban and now even "exurban" areas?

Idiot planning. Ignition potentials, few paid fire companies equipped to handle such fires. Located off major highways, often near train or El lines so population density will catch up there, too. (Occasional rows of houses burning down and eventual car jacking and robbery paradises.)

Posted by: L - And they can all x my royal Irish arse at March 18, 2024 11:54 AM (GshMh)

273 I will have much more to write about Stephen Scherr and the Hertz lesson in the near future.

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"Hertz puts you in the sucker’s seat."

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 18, 2024 11:54 AM (RETyH)

274 This bespectacled brunette wouldn't mind having a fun EV performance car to play around with when the mood strikes her - as long as it wasn't only her only vehicle, of course:
http://tiny.cc/3mujxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:40 AM (HnUIn)

She's Asian. Wouldn't she be concerned with drowning?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:55 AM (zhLdt)

275 At least those two ladies in Brooklyn could go to a deli at 2:30 AM. Can probably get Thai food at 3 AM, too.
Posted by: Look On the Sunny Side

Kathy Hochul Says Her National Guard Subway Patrol Is ‘Working’ Despite Recent Train Shooting

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Subway shootings are just the price we pay for democracy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 18, 2024 11:55 AM (FVME7)

276 I wonder how much money the Chinese put into bribing presstitutes, universities, pols, and bureaucrats to advance the e-vehicle agenda, and given the Chinese investment in the Mexican factories, how what else they're going to pay for to protect their investments so far. And what their Fifth Columnists and the border crossing sleepers are going to do to keep Trump out of the White House.

Posted by: Peter B at March 18, 2024 11:55 AM (HJ+is)

277 Especially depressing is how rare two righteous kings in a row were. Pretty obvious that Daddy Righteous King was *not* in charge of teaching his sons how to do things right.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (XjtdB)

Eh, it is hard to do properly. Marcus Aurelius gave the world Commodus.

On the other hand, Julia Mamaea gave us Alexander Severus (he was pretty level headed) and her influence was one of the primary reasons he was assassinated.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:55 AM (di6C2)

278 There were only 4 Kings of Israel or Judah where you can prove from Scripture that they were righteous, or saved, if you will.

Posted by: Kinda Like Presidents at March 18, 2024 11:56 AM (V5BDR)

279 My Gupta hurts.

My Geeta is not much better
Posted by: Mr Fishkar Puddin Pie

My Tata's are humming along just fine.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 11:56 AM (SbJgO)

280 Was Hertz the company that OJ did the ads for back in the 70s, the ones where he was running through airports?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:56 AM (9yWhg)

281 246 British Racing Green!
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Always liked that color. The Germans got grey I think in that racing scheme.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:48 AM (TPpzE

Mine is a click darker - Rebel Green.

Posted by: Piper at March 18, 2024 11:56 AM (ZdaMQ)

282 Greta Gupta, puddin' and pie
Bought a mansion in the sky
When the bills came due to pay
Greta Gupta ran away
Posted by: Muldoon at March 18, 2024 11:50 AM (991eG)

You asked for it..........ish.......

https://youtu.be/YSQGPG1B024

*NSFW in a big way*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)

283 You misspelled 'has a significantly large implanted rack.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

269 Too bad, they made a pair of really good scissors. RIP.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 18, 2024 11:53 AM (4p0Xq)

Paige Spiranic and Nancy Mace scissoring would be interesting.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 18, 2024 11:56 AM (ufFY8)

284 >>> 274 This bespectacled brunette wouldn't mind having a fun EV performance car to play around with when the mood strikes her - as long as it wasn't only her only vehicle, of course:
http://tiny.cc/3mujxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 18, 2024 11:40 AM (HnUIn)

She's Asian. Wouldn't she be concerned with drowning?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:55 AM (zhLdt)

You didn't notice the flotation devices???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 18, 2024 11:56 AM (llON8)

285
Beta Aviation in Vermont seems to be successful without selling product. How is that?

Posted by: Auspex at March 18, 2024 11:56 AM (j4U/Z)

286 In the automotive racing arena green is considered bad luck to have on your car. At least that's the story I've been told. Nowdays I see green on many race cars, but it's still not as significant as red, black, white, silver....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 18, 2024 11:57 AM (Q4IgG)

287 Too bad, they made a pair of really good scissors. RIP.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 18, 2024 11:53 AM (4p0Xq)

Lost in time like shears in rain.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 18, 2024 11:57 AM (D7oie)

288 Paige Spiranac is a racket.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (9yWhg)

You mean a (golf) club, right?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 18, 2024 11:57 AM (gZ3KO)

289
Here in my area of SE PA generation cost is about .10 but distribution charge is another .10 - so altogether about .20 per kwh.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 18, 2024 11:57 AM (RKVpM)

290 Re. a Staples's computer chair I'm buying...

"PU leather is artificial leather made of polyurethane, a type of plastic. It's 100 percent vegan and water resistant, but it has some drawbacks such as imperfections, color fading and cracking."

I think the leatherette mixes polyurethane with shredded real leather pieces -- there was something like that anyway even if it wasn't 'leatherette'.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 11:57 AM (2yu8s)

291 Aetius @ 254-
I wrecked my 64 Valiant when I was in the 10th grade, and changed the color to that green. The body shop called it British Racing Green back in 1965.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2024 11:57 AM (NxC5+)

292 237
‘ Nobody backed into their spot.’

I noticed that too. That way to park bugs me for some reason.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 18, 2024 11:57 AM (jbnUc)

293 http://tiny.cc/3mujxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She's inviting someone to undo those last two snaps on her shirt.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg)

294 268 Paige Spiranac is a racket.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (9yWhg)

You misspelled 'has a significantly large implanted rack.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

Tsk, tsk. Those puppies are real and they are spectacular.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 18, 2024 11:58 AM (KbCG3)

295 On the other hand, Julia Mamaea gave us Alexander Severus (he was pretty level headed) and her influence was one of the primary reasons he was assassinated.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 18, 2024 11:55 AM (di6C2)

Julie Tits?!

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 18, 2024 11:59 AM (XjtdB)

296 You was lucky! In Peoples Democrat Republic of Kalifornia electricity at lowest cost tier is 32 cents per KW. Up from 14 cents/KW since 2017.

And now the electrical rate you pay in California will be tied to your income, because every purchase you make should have an income redistribution mechanism built into it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 18, 2024 11:59 AM (YAtuc)

297 good look at Biden's Frankenstein shoes.

https://tinyurl.com/5ytb495h
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Is a two-fer.

Because of his back he wears these to help it. Hence, the funky gait

If he falls, he's getting use to these new shoes.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 18, 2024 11:59 AM (JkCto)

298 From cars to electric rates to boobs.

Easy peasy!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 18, 2024 11:59 AM (ufFY8)

299

Is a two-fer.

Because of his back he wears these to help it. Hence, the funky gait

If he falls, he's getting use to these new shoes.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 18, 2024 11:59 AM (JkCto)

He walks like he's got drop foot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:59 AM (Zz0t1)

300 To me, that article's most interesting point was that the 'showy' colors might attract too much attention from the hoi polloi so the elites are buying drab luxury vehicle colors for blending in rather than stirring resentment.

There was also a major study around 2012/2013 that trumpeted that women are terrified of non-neutral colors because they might offend someone. Yes, it's cancel culture for colors, and having completely taken over houses it's also come for cars.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 18, 2024 12:00 PM (2ocoG)

301 British Racing Green!
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Always liked that color. The Germans got grey I think in that racing scheme.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:48 AM (TPpzE

Mine is a click darker - Rebel Green.
Posted by: Piper

Official Color of Texas - Stormtrooper White

Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2024 12:00 PM (SbJgO)

302 The darker shades of BRG are the best national racecar color. Pure white (Japan) is next best. White+Blue (US) is next after. German gray is meh. Italy got the short end of the stick with red. Lamest car color. They should've gone with yellow.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 18, 2024 12:00 PM (0FoWg)

303 Nood. Inflatables or something.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 12:00 PM (zhLdt)

304 nood biden's inflation

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 18, 2024 12:00 PM (bving)

305 Given the increased weight associated with EVs, and the road damage caused, and the lack of gasoline taxes paid, it seems like an EVs annual registration should be MUCH higher.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 18, 2024 11:10 AM (zhLdt)

I was next to a Rivian pickup last week. 7000 pound vehicle and the owner put studded tires on the thing. And we had zero snow in town this winter.

Posted by: Rex B at March 18, 2024 12:01 PM (5h/8D)

306
You guys who go on and on about boobs.

Either your mamas did mot breastfeed you or they did and you still want to suck on the teats.

Posted by: four seasons at March 18, 2024 12:01 PM (PisyI)

307 ‘ Nobody backed into their spot.’

I noticed that too. That way to park bugs me for some reason.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 18, 2024 11:57 AM (jbnUc)

Because too many people who do it are bad at it and end up on the line? Also, it takes them three times as long to park.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 18, 2024 12:01 PM (XjtdB)

308 PU leather is artificial leather ..." comes with 7 years of accumulated stale fart smell.

Pre-seasoned, as you might say

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 18, 2024 12:01 PM (yikga)

309 Paige Spiranac is a racket.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:52 AM (9yWhg)

You misspelled 'has a significantly large implanted rack.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 18, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

Tsk, tsk. Those puppies are real and they are spectacular.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 18, 2024 11:58 AM

There is more plastic in those boobs than there is vegan leather in a rivian truck.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 18, 2024 12:01 PM (QNSds)

310
Yes, it's cancel culture for colors, and having completely taken over houses it's also come for cars.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 18, 2024 12:00 PM (2ocoG)

It's gotten to the point I have to verify the license plate is mine. It just seems that everyone wants to drive a grey SUV.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 18, 2024 12:02 PM (RKVpM)

311 So Fisked has a new meaning.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 18, 2024 11:54 AM (4p0Xq)

--------------

Similar to Being Epsteined.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 18, 2024 12:03 PM (RETyH)

312 PU leather is artificial leather ..." comes with 7 years of accumulated stale fart smell.

Pre-seasoned, as you might say
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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That must be why Staples is marketing it as a computer-gamer chair.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 12:04 PM (2yu8s)

313 It's gotten to the point I have to verify the license plate is mine. It just seems that everyone wants to drive a grey SUV.

I had to be very firm with the dealer to get my current car in dark blue. When the sun's not out everyone thinks it's black anyway though.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 18, 2024 12:04 PM (2ocoG)

314
🚨🚨BREAKING: Donald Trump warns that there will be "Updog" if he loses the presidential election in November, @NBCNews reports.

Does that have something to do with yoga?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 18, 2024 12:04 PM (63Dwl)

315 we have three electric providers where I live and two distributors, fortunately our house is served by a co-op that provides both the power and the distribution infrastructure. Cost is 11.3 cents/kw-hour. If you need anything they show within an hour.

Have a rent house in AEP's territory with Centerpoint distribution. If you need anything expect to call 5 times at 45 minutes each and wait three weeks for any response.

Posted by: DanMan at March 18, 2024 12:04 PM (8uzBS)

316 .... It's 100 percent vegan and water resistant

*******

If it really is 100 percent vegan resistant, that alone would bee worth the price.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 18, 2024 12:05 PM (991eG)

317 She's inviting someone to undo those last two snaps on her shirt.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 18, 2024 11:58 AM

This makes no sense. Numbers 4, 5, 6, and 8 are the snaps still snapped.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at March 18, 2024 12:06 PM (+CDXK)

318 You was lucky! In Peoples Democrat Republic of Kalifornia electricity at lowest cost tier is 32 cents per KW. Up from 14 cents/KW since 2017.

And now the electrical rate you pay in California will be tied to your income, because every purchase you make should have an income redistribution mechanism built into it.

Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Comrades the future will be glorious. GLORIOUS COMRADES!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 18, 2024 12:06 PM (17s+e)

319 Does that have something to do with yoga?
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It's like the BOFA. What's 'BOFA'? Bofa deeze nuts on yo' face! meme.

What's 'updog'?? Nothin' much. What's up with you, dog?

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 18, 2024 12:06 PM (2yu8s)

320 I like to call it "leather veneer". We had a couch like that. Very thin layer of leather glued to an underlay. Didn't hold up.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 18, 2024 12:07 PM (yeEu9)

321 To me, that article's most interesting point was that the 'showy' colors might attract too much attention from the hoi polloi so the elites are buying drab luxury vehicle colors for blending in rather than stirring resentment.
Posted by: whig at March 18, 2024 11:27 AM (TPpzE)

So, I guess, my tropical turquoise/India ivory 57 Chevy might attract too much attention? The hell you say!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at March 18, 2024 12:07 PM (iODuv)

322 Mrs. Jukin bought four dining "leather" chairs that a couple years later started to flake like your skin after a bad sunburn.... but she got a good deal on them.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 18, 2024 12:11 PM (17s+e)

323 What's worse than a degenerate gambler blowing all his money on losing bets? Degenerate gambler Brian Kemp blowing everyone else's money on losing bets.

Posted by: JT Smith at March 18, 2024 12:16 PM (FxdZx)

324 "Prior to joining Hertz in February 2022, Stephen spent nearly three decades at Goldman Sachs."

Goldman Sachs is a blight. I'd rather have locusts in the heartland or toads overwhelm Manhattan. I can't think of one positive lasting impact they have ever made, unless the collapse of the economy in 2008/2009 counts.

Posted by: Jake Speed at March 18, 2024 12:47 PM (Vu1jV)

325 Politicians, like many bankers I have known, are the most swashbuckling entrepreneurs - when it is other people's money at stake.

Posted by: Paco at March 18, 2024 01:16 PM (njExo)

326 Please, Hertz, hire me as CEO. 10MM a year will do it, and it won't go bankrupt. I'm serious.

Posted by: exliberal at March 18, 2024 01:57 PM (KtT/B)

327 Public-private is fascist, not communist. (Then again, whichever regime calls itself "communist" is actually feudal, in practice.)

Posted by: Chas C-Q at March 18, 2024 02:07 PM (U8S9W)

328 Love it, Buck!

I hope we all now finally see who globalist republicans like Brian Kemp and his Chinese-lover Brad Raffensperger really are. They are NOT America First and never will be.

If you think Trump 'wins' Cobb or Fulton county come November... You have another thing coming.

Posted by: Danimal28 at March 18, 2024 03:02 PM (klw0w)

329 Hey everybody. I'm thinking of starting a solar panel mfg. business and of course I need investors. The new company will be called Solyndra! Let me know if you'd be interested. To the moon!

Posted by: Guillermo at March 18, 2024 06:42 PM (558mO)

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