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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Sunday Morning Book Thread - 03-10-2024 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]PIC NOTE Today's pic is not the library on Antares Prime. Nope. It's a picture of the Sandro Penna Municipal Library, located in the hamlet of San Sisto, smack dab in the middle of the Italian peninsula. As libraries go, it's fairly small, with only about 20,000 volumes. It is part of a larger library system, so presumably there's an ILL function between them for people to order resources that are not locally available. EPIC REVIEW - Malazan Books of the FallenI checked out Nate's website. He has some pretty neat 3D illustrations and artwork, along with some interesting items that would be great on the Gun and Hobby Threads. I even found some blueprints for bookshelves! I may have to try making some as these seem pretty easy to do...Even ace could figure these out... This next one is not by a Moron per se (as far as I know, but then this blog has a fairly wide readership). I know ace has linked to John Nolte's content as recently as this week. MORON RECOMMENDATIONS Comment: "[T]heir ideas for the masses are not at all how they live." That seems to sum up A LOT about liberalism. They always seem to have such wonderful ideas for the rest of us, such as living in 15-minute cities and eating bugs, but they are not at all keen on adopting that lifestyle for themselves and their children. Foster care is a bit of a mixed bag. On the one hand, you have people taking in foster kids to game the system and grift from the local and state governments. On the other hand, you also have loving, caring people who take in foster kids and do their best to give them a stable, healthy environment. One of my old college buddies and his wife did this, raising three adopted kids as best they could, despite the fact the three boys were initially dealt a bad hand at life. But now they have loving parents who care for them as deeply as if they were biological sons. Comment: I went and checked out the reviews of this book on Amazon. Seems like the people who didn't like it are the ones who have a different political ideology than the author. They commented that W.H. Hawthorne seemed to be injecting a lot of right-wing political bias. Of course, if they had read the blurb for the book, they could probably have picked that up as it's not hard to figure out. Hawthorne spent 40 years working in the defense industry, so he has inside scoop on how the American military-industrial complex really works and can bring that experience to his storytelling. More Moron-recommended reading material can be found HERE! (1000+ Moron-recommended books!)
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No reading, except for manuals trying to get new phone and tablet to work.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 10, 2024 09:00 AM (0eaVi) 2
Ahoy bookists!
Posted by: goatexchange at March 10, 2024 09:01 AM (i4W9G) 3
Perfessor saved himself!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 10, 2024 09:02 AM (0eaVi) 4
Good Sunday morning, horde!
Library pic is interesting. Looks like a spaceship. I wonder if there are deck chairs up there on that top part for sitting and reading. Also, cranium guy made me laugh. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 10, 2024 09:03 AM (OX9vb) 5
No reading this week.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 10, 2024 09:04 AM (ENQN6) 6
The top pic and the cranium pic make me think of Saturday morning cartoons. The Jetsons for pic one, and the alien from the Flintsones for number two.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 09:05 AM (56Kaj) 7
Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at March 10, 2024 09:06 AM (zudum) 8
I'm a longtime lurker at AoS (and a very - very - occasional commenter under the name "napresto" [this nic does ring a bell -- PS]). I did a search 'site:ace.mu.nu napresto' and it was not found in older threads. But interestingly enough this thread it returned, twice. So AoS is catalogued pretty damn quickly. Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 10, 2024 09:07 AM (RKVpM) 9
Yay Book Thread!
We've got some snow overnight, but the promise of an early spring compelled me to start cleaning up the house. Yesterday I cleared out a pile of surplus books and cleaned out half a shelf. Before people howl in rage, I took them to Curious Books and got in-store credit. For those who know mid-Michigan, Curious is something of an institution, and I was saddened to hear that the sister store, The Archives, will be closing. The proprietor, Ray Walsh, is at least 100 years old in my estimate, and he's likely trying to get a handle on the operation while he still can. This was why my quest for replacement books was largely unsuccessful - both stores are in disarray as inventory is shifted around. I'm going to wait a few weeks until things settle down. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:08 AM (llXky) 10
hiya
Posted by: JT at March 10, 2024 09:08 AM (T4tVD) 11
Booken morgen horden!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 10, 2024 09:09 AM (DpEcY) 12
Going through classic Marvel Avengers stories, bouncing between '60s and '70s adventures. The '60s reprint is only B/W; I wish it were in color. As it is, the Scarlet Witch's hair keeps switching from its original black to auburn to black again. Apparently Marvel didn't estaish a color guide until the '70s.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 10, 2024 09:10 AM (p/isN) 13
Morning, book folken,
I'm reading a 1981 Western, Eyes of the Hawk, by Texas author Elmer Kelton, whose work I've just discovered. The narrator, one Reed Sawyer, leaves Louisiana in 1854 and works his way to Texas, and finds himself in the middle of a feud between visionary rancher Thomas Canfield and his enemy, businessman Branch Isom. Tragedies ensue, including family deaths, Reed's wounding in the Civil War, and . . . well, I haven't finished it yet. But I fully expect there to be a real payoff kind of climax to the story. Kelton's stuff has not been made into many movies (that I know of), which puzzles me. He draws interesting characters who are easy to picture as character or leading actors. His Canfield here, for instance, would have been a good role for Lee Van Cleef. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:10 AM (omVj0) 14
Currently re-reading Marine series by WEB Griffin.
Posted by: vic at March 10, 2024 09:11 AM (A5THL) 15
Read Cyberbooks when it first came out -- as with too many others, I now blank on details. But I recall a delightful sequence in which the inventor bounces the idea off a publishing guy, who says, "Jesus, kid, are you trying to get us all killed?" He then goes through a description of all the people from publishers to distributors and bookstore clerks who depend on everything staying just the way it is.
Haven't read a lot of Bova's fiction, but he could be fun. The Starcrossed (based on the fiasco of the Starlost tv series) was nifty too. Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 10, 2024 09:11 AM (q3u5l) 16
I should add that anyone who wants some of the sources that went into Walls of Men: A Military History of China, can score them once everything settles down.
As for my sold purchase, it's Getting to Know The General, an obscure pocket-sized book by Graham Greene. Apparently in the 1970s he struct up a relationship with the ruler of Panama, and I've been meaning to start reading Greene, so this will be something of an introduction. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:11 AM (llXky) 17
The Erikson books sound interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if my local suburban big library would have a lot of his stuff in the Fantasy/SF section. They love to stock lots of titles by recent series authors.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:12 AM (omVj0) 18
For those who know mid-Michigan, Curious is something of an institution, and I was saddened to hear that the sister store, The Archives, will be closing. The proprietor, Ray Walsh, is at least 100 years old in my estimate, and he's likely trying to get a handle on the operation while he still can.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:08 AM (llXky) --- Do you have any pics of The Archive? Maybe we can preserve it here on this site as it once was before it shuts down... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2024 09:12 AM (BpYfr) 19
Okay you convinced me to try book one of Malazan Book of the Fallen.
I hope you're happy! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 10, 2024 09:12 AM (66s2O) 20
Comment: I went and checked out the reviews of this book on Amazon. Seems like the people who didn't like it are the ones who have a different political ideology than the author. They commented that W.H. Hawthorne seemed to be injecting a lot of right-wing political bias. Of course, if they had read the blurb for the book, they could probably have picked that up as it's not hard to figure out.
Heh. About 4 years ago, Kurt Schlichter put out a new book, which I hadn't read, but on literally the day it was available on Amazon, it got some very negative reviews along the usual lines of Nazi, white supremacist, etc. I might have called the authors lefty trolls who clearly hadn't read the book, but emitted their "reviews" based on the simple fact that they didn't like Schlichter's politics. No profanity was used. Not long after, I was accused by Amazon of being a troublemaker, and was banned from further reviews. I refused to ask forgiveness, because f*** them. I am still banned, despite being frequently asked to review purchases I've made. Posted by: Archimedes at March 10, 2024 09:13 AM (CsUN+) 21
I have a signed copy of A Wizard of Earthsea
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 10, 2024 09:13 AM (RIvkX) 22
Finished "Footfall". I like how Niven and Pournelle got revenge against the Proxmires of the world in their novels: Project Orion is resurrected, Rods From God are deployed, etc. All it takes is a good alien invasion!
Along with this plot-heavy book, I've been rucking my way through the doorstop "1Q84". It's good, but it's like crossing an arid plane toward the mountains in the distance, which never seem to get closer. Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 10, 2024 09:14 AM (3e3hy) 23
After careful consideration, I think the Pants guy owns a weedwhacker and he used it on Cranium guy's hair.
Posted by: JT at March 10, 2024 09:14 AM (T4tVD) 24
Thanks for posting the note on 'Borrowed Time' Perfessor. Appropriate that it comes out as counter-programming to the Oscars.
Posted by: Candidus at March 10, 2024 09:15 AM (CqK30) Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 10, 2024 09:15 AM (DpEcY) 26
Read Cyberbooks when it first came out -- as with too many others, I now blank on details. But I recall a delightful sequence in which the inventor bounces the idea off a publishing guy, who says, "Jesus, kid, are you trying to get us all killed?" He then goes through a description of all the people from publishers to distributors and bookstore clerks who depend on everything staying just the way it is.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 10, 2024 09:11 AM (q3u5l) --- The climax revolves around a lawsuit between the sales people of a publishing company and senior management. Somehow, Canadian environmentalists also become involved on the side of the salespeople. (Their "jobs" depend on Canadian forestry, which is a major supplier of book paper.) It really is a satirical look at the entire publishing industry. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2024 09:15 AM (BpYfr) 27
I'm about 2/3 the way through "A Fire Upon the Deep" by Vernor Vinge. It's amusing to see how the plot was derived from the early days and technology of the net.
Posted by: pawn at March 10, 2024 09:15 AM (QB+5g) 28
I have a signed copy of A Wizard of Earthsea
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 10, 2024 *** Harlan Ellison was speaking at a small college in the Denver area in the late '90s. I went to hear him, and got him to sign my paperback editions of his first novel, Web of the City, and his short story collection Love Ain't Nothin' But Sex Misspelled. He gave me a funny look -- "Why aren't you buying any of my new stuff?" -- but signed anyway. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:15 AM (omVj0) 29
In a little over 40 seconds on an April morning in 1906, an earthquake leveled a city. The buildings in San Francisco that didn't topple soon were threatened with fire from broken gas lines. In A Crack in the Edge of the World, Simon Winchester captures the tragedy of the 8.2 magnitude earthquake that hit the city, and the stories of those who frantically sought escape, or tried to rescue others. He also intertwines the story of the pioneers who sought to formulate what would become the science of plate tectonics.
1906 was a turbulent year. In January, a huge quake rocked Ecuador, and a few weeks later St. Lucia in the Caribbean suffered a massive tremor. In March, the island of Formosa was hit, and shortly thereafter Vesuvius erupted. As scientists tried to make sense of it, the great quake hit the young crowded city in California. in truth, the city never recovered from the quake - a town to the south had cheaper land and seemed less risky. That town was called Los Angeles. In this book Winchester has captured the panic in the streets that day, the permanent changes to the region as a result and illuminates the corner of geology that grew out of this turbulent time. Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 09:16 AM (56Kaj) 30
If you poke through the Amazon reviews of Joseph Epstein's books from the time of his "Kiddo" remark re DOCTOR Jill, you'll find a perfect example of what Archimedes is talking about.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 10, 2024 09:16 AM (q3u5l) 31
Okay you convinced me to try book one of Malazan Book of the Fallen.
I hope you're happy! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 10, 2024 09:12 AM (66s2O) --- That's what sucked me in... Be warned...Erickson drops you square in the middle of a violent revolution. It takes some time to figure out the world and its mechanics. The journey is totally worth it. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2024 09:17 AM (BpYfr) 32
Oh, and that library..." smack dab in the middle of the Italian peninsula. "
The Italians are incapable of being mundane. I remember being amazed at the design of the radio and TV towers there. Each one is a unique work of the art of design. Posted by: pawn at March 10, 2024 09:17 AM (QB+5g) 33
In other news, I finished St. Augustine's Confessions and I've got mixed reviews. The best part for me, was his autobiography, which was wonderful to read. For the first time in a while, I stayed up because I couldn't put it down.
Alas, the remainder of the books is a deep meditation on theology, in part a rebuttal to Manicheanism. This is interesting, but in a different way, and it wasn't something I could breeze through. Reading more than 10 pages at a time was difficult because of way he was drawing everything out. It is good stuff, foundational to the faith, and I got quite a bit out of how his points that the Bible is written in such a way that there are situations where there can be different interpretations and they might all be false - or true. It's also clear that Tolkien knew the work well, because one of St. Augustine's questions was about sound vs song and could the first sound have been song? I immediately thought of the Music of the Ainur. The Prof also uses water a lot, and St. Augustine likewise considers it a key part of creation. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:18 AM (llXky) 34
Finished "Footfall". I like how Niven and Pournelle got revenge against the Proxmires of the world in their novels: Project Orion is resurrected, Rods From God are deployed, etc. All it takes is a good alien invasion! . . .
Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 10, 2024 *** Niven tells the story of how he and Pournelle wrote that one, taking turns on chapters and scenes. They built up to the climax. Writing at white heat, Pournelle wound up the very last scene and stood up from the computer. Niven read what he'd written, said, "I can top that," and sat down and wrote: THE END Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:19 AM (omVj0) 35
Tolle Lege
Just started hard back Triumph Forsaken by Mark Moyar, it's the first of 3 books on Vietnam War. This is 1956 - 1965. I was warned it's small print and 400 pages. Posted by: Skip at March 10, 2024 09:19 AM (fwDg9) 36
This week...
The operations manual for the 2024 Subaru Forrester. This epic tome of unusual size goes in depth into the features and functions of the car. It gives no clue where or how to turn off all the stupid safety and fuel ecconomy shit this car has packed into it. I really like the whole engine dying at every stop thing. Trade fuel ecconomy for starter motors and actually being able to go when you hit the gas. Coffee is done. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 09:19 AM (vQGcO) 37
It's the first day of the week, and the first day of the month (that month is Adar 2, during one of our relatively infrequent and fun Jewish leap years)! My reading has been alternating between R. Ariel b. Tzadok's series of wonderfully clear and conversational takes on classic Jewish mysticism (currently The Greatest Story Never Told), and Jim Beard's excellent stories featuring Sgt. Janus, the Ghost-Breaker. What makes Beard's stand out from the common run of occult detective tales is that they're all told from the viewpoint of Janus' clients (in different voices!), while the hero remains just so slightly elusive. And both series are conveniently available on Kindle Unlimited!
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 10, 2024 09:20 AM (SPNTN) 38
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:08 AM (llXky)
A.H., I've been to Curious Book Shop a couple times and it's a hoot! Just stacks of stuff. And they have a nifty selection of old sci fi paperbacks. You will always find a magnificent gem in that Smaug pile. Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 10, 2024 09:20 AM (3e3hy) Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 10, 2024 09:20 AM (DpEcY) 40
The Italians are incapable of being mundane. I remember being amazed at the design of the radio and TV towers there. Each one is a unique work of the art of design.
Posted by: pawn at March 10, 2024 *** They do a number of things very well: shaving supplies, food, leather, music, beautiful women, and automotive design (though the reliability is still not much). Oh, and their ancestors built some kind of empire near the Mediterranean; I forget what it was called. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:21 AM (omVj0) 41
"I really like the whole engine dying at every stop thing."
Why would you buy something like that? Posted by: pawn at March 10, 2024 09:22 AM (QB+5g) 42
Do you have any pics of The Archive? Maybe we can preserve it here on this site as it once was before it shuts down...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2024 09:12 AM (BpYfr) --- I could get some. It's just down the street. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:22 AM (llXky) 43
I didnt remember thar one but i did remember privateers slightky earlier in ben bovas career sent in a resurgent soviet union where the us has abandoned space a tony stark type tycoon is the title charscter who steals mine ore from asteroids there is a very elbowy venezuelan chick there are lots of space battles
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 09:22 AM (PXvVL) 44
At least have reading glasses 👓
Posted by: Skip at March 10, 2024 09:22 AM (fwDg9) 45
Still rereading stuff
Now it's Mercy Thompson & Alpha & Omega, as well as the Hidden Legacy series by ilona andrews Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 10, 2024 09:22 AM (DpEcY) 46
I'm about 2/3 the way through "A Fire Upon the Deep" by Vernor Vinge. It's amusing to see how the plot was derived from the early days and technology of the net.
Posted by: pawn I absolutely love this book and recommend you follow with the next book in that Universe (but not a sequel), 'A Deepness in the Sky'. Posted by: Candidus at March 10, 2024 09:23 AM (CqK30) 47
Good reading day here. Snowy and blowy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 10, 2024 09:24 AM (3e3hy) 48
Prolly ten years ago I read The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman. No, it isn't dystopian science fiction set on another planet, dimension and century. There is no character development or plot twists because it's nonfiction.
But it helped me learn a great deal about myself and my relationships with others. Since I find myself thinking about it fairly often it seems appropriate to mention it in the book thread. The most important books are those that influence our every day thoughts. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 10, 2024 09:25 AM (dg+HA) 49
Oh, BTW, try this on for irony: I just looked up Bova's Cyberbooks on Amazon. IT'S NOT AVAILABLE IN EBOOK FORMAT. You gotta love it .... So it's off to Abebooks or WorldCat to scrounge a paper copy, depending on how much it costs.
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 10, 2024 09:25 AM (SPNTN) 50
I did finish the raj quarter which was a series our dear captain hate had started
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 09:25 AM (PXvVL) 51
A.H., I've been to Curious Book Shop a couple times and it's a hoot! Just stacks of stuff. And they have a nifty selection of old sci fi paperbacks. You will always find a magnificent gem in that Smaug pile.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 10, 2024 09:20 AM (3e3hy) --- I realized yesterday that I've been going to Curious Books for 35 years. Back in the 80s my mom would read bodice rippers and pulp mysteries and we had a designated bag for her to toss them in when she was done. When the bag was full, I'd put it in the crate on my bike, pedal downtown, and trade them for sci-fi, fantasy or military history paperbacks and a bit of cash. I'd then hit Campus Comics and lunch at Taco Bell before heading back. Those were happier times. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:25 AM (llXky) 52
I could get some. It's just down the street.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:22 AM (llXky) --- Cool! Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2024 09:25 AM (BpYfr) 53
Finished reading The Shirley Letters.
Blurb: The Shirley Letters is a series of epistolary-styled letters written by Louise Amelia Clappe to her sister in 1851 and 1852. They were first published under the pseudonym of "Dame Shirley" in the Pioneer Magazine, 1854-55. In these letters she describes life at the Feather River gold diggings encampments of Rich Bar and Indian Bar. Posted by: 13times at March 10, 2024 09:26 AM (Df1rq) 54
Ben Bova wrote a fun little novel about the Moon declaring independence from the earth. Millenium
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 10, 2024 09:27 AM (RIvkX) 55
I do remember seeing the napresto nic recently
I remember coz I read is as nespresso Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 10, 2024 09:27 AM (DpEcY) 56
At least have reading glasses 👓
Posted by: Skip at March 10, 2024 09:22 AM (fwDg9) Sure. Rub it in. Posted by: Henry Bemis at March 10, 2024 09:28 AM (0eaVi) 57
Good morning horde and good morning Perfessor. Congrats on 9700+ pages.
I wanted to better understand Elon Musk, so I read three books: - Elon Musk (Walter Isaacson) - Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future (Ashlee Vance) - When the Heavens Went on Sale (Ashlee Vance) I learned: Musk's actions and the operations of Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter/X are not irrational. You may not agree with the decisions, but Musk has a logic. Progress is not inevitable. Without a driving force, stagnation is inevitable. Time is the biggest enemy. Musk's biggest goal is to make humanity an interplanetary species. Physics is the only constraint. Money, logistics, regulations, and "because someone said so," are impediments but not true constraints. The mission is THE most important thing. Everything is else subordinate. Musk values technical and engineering knowledge. He is baffled by CEOs who aren't expert in their products. Money is not a motivator. It is a means to an end. Musk is fan of humanity in a macro sense but his micro sense lacks a strong empathy gene. Things obvious to him aren't always viewed the same by others. Posted by: TRex at March 10, 2024 09:29 AM (IQ6Gq) 58
Browsing through assorted Simenons this week. Also skipping through a new anthology called Reports from the Deep End, a collection of short stories inspired by the work of J. G. Ballard (the Ramsey Campbell entry is quite nice).
Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 10, 2024 09:29 AM (q3u5l) 59
They do a number of things very well: shaving supplies, food, leather, music, beautiful women, and automotive design (though the reliability is still not much). Oh, and their ancestors built some kind of empire near the Mediterranean; I forget what it was called.
They had the good sense to realize Hitler was a loon and they wanted no more to do with him. Unfortunately, by then it was too late for many of them. They just seem to enjoy life more than most folks. Posted by: Archimedes at March 10, 2024 09:30 AM (CsUN+) 60
Inspector also recommends Lawrence Watt-Evans highly. I enjoyed the couple I read several decades ago, but hadn't known there were a bunch more at the time.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 09:31 AM (XjtdB) 61
Musk values technical and engineering knowledge. He is baffled by CEOs who aren't expert in their products.
Well, that's just silly. Posted by: Mary Barra, CEO, General Motors at March 10, 2024 09:32 AM (CsUN+) 62
@51 --
I wonder what percentage of books churn through secondhand stores and what percentage remain in the hands of the original buyer. I'm a hoarder, although of used books. I'm starting to wonder how many of mine will go into the estate sale unread. Posted by: Weak Geek at March 10, 2024 09:33 AM (p/isN) 63
OT to OrangeEnt: That link to Townsends in Indiana has got me thinking I might buy one of their Deluxe Leather Wallets to keep in the car. The new wheels have a lock socket, and I don't want it rolling around in the console making noise. Wrapping it in a face towel is dumb; I use that to wipe fog off the windshield and water off the steering wheel when I climb in during a rain. $40 seems reasonable for that wallet.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:33 AM (omVj0) 64
Money is not a motivator. It is a means to an end.
This is a key insight. Mankind is replete with wealthy men, but the ones you remember are those who do something worth remembering, something that moves humanity forward (or, sadly, backwards). Being rich isn't one of those things. Posted by: Archimedes at March 10, 2024 09:34 AM (CsUN+) 65
I'm currently reading The Great Heresies by Hillaire Belloc (he of "Whatever happens, we have got the Maxim gun and they have not" fame).
It is a much easier read than St. Augustine (God be praised!) and I'm enjoying it. One issue is that this appears to be an off-brand scan/reprint, so there are artifacts in the text here and there. The theme of the book is that humans are spiritual creatures and that ideology is often a mask for heresy. He discusses five heresies: Arian, Mohammedan, Albigensian, Reformation and what he dubs "Modernism," because it was still emergent. I'm part-way through it (because it is easy to read) and it's interesting that his take on Islam is that it's not a true faith, but a heresy. I'm still on that chapter, so I don't know if he doubts Mohammed existed, but he uses that term rather than Islam because heresies are always named after their leader, so the archaic "Mohammedism" is for him appropriate. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:34 AM (llXky) 66
Mentioned this last week, but it was late in the thread, so I'll repeat it:
In book news we thought we'd probably never see -- Harlan Ellison's anthology The Last Dangerous Vision is up for pre-order at Amazon (hardcover, paperback, and audio -- Kindle listing soon). Release date is October 1. Haven't seen a table of contents page yet, but Blackstone or Ellison estate executor J. Michael Straczynski (sp?) will probably release that soon. Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 10, 2024 09:35 AM (q3u5l) 67
Why would you buy something like that?
Posted by: pawn at March 10, 2024 09:22 AM (QB+5g) No choice. 19 year old KIA killed itself at 99,996 miles. I guess there were choices but what I wanted was a new Bronco Raptor that the sticker shock sent the wife into shock. Forrester was the best deal we could find. We offered up our first born years ago for the KIA and they aren't taking arms and legs as payment anymore. It's the wifes car anyway I drive garbage jeeps and such. Pretty much whatever I have running at the time. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 09:36 AM (zYHH+) 68
And both series are conveniently available on Kindle Unlimited!
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 10, 2024 09:20 AM (SPNTN) Cool, that could keep me busy for a while. That rabbi is a prolific publisher. Isn't he the guy that appears on Ancient Aliens now and then? *Maybe the rest of you don't have a spouse who watches this all the time, but I do, and the rabbi always seemed interesting to me. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 10, 2024 09:37 AM (OX9vb) 69
read Mongol Moon and its followup - Dance of Devils based on a recent mention/recommendation. A different take on EMP TEOTWAWKI in that it concentrates more on the perpetrators than the ones affected. One factor which was a bit unbelievable was how easily the main character congregated. Not that it wasn't unexpected. I did like that there was more available tech than in most of these. What I missed (wasn't mentioned?) is that this is the second of three. So be aware of that.
Also continuing in The New Rome: A History of Byzantium. @13 "Kelton's stuff has not been made into many movies (that I know of), which puzzles me." The other side of "90% of everything is crap" is how much good stuff is out there and is ignored. Not about reading so no link, but Rick Beato has a couple of videos about how much good music he's produced which is the result of people's extended efforts and no one will ever hear. Posted by: yara at March 10, 2024 09:38 AM (jwDtS) 70
48 Prolly ten years ago I read The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman. But it helped me learn a great deal about myself and my relationships with others.
The most important books are those that influence our every day thoughts. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 10, 2024 09:25 AM *** Agreed - both on this book and the overall sentiment of influential books. One of the hardest things about interpersonal relationships is getting beyond your own behaviors and what makes sense to you to understand how others act. Humans are all different but there are themes. Humans are simple and complicated at the same time. Posted by: TRex at March 10, 2024 09:39 AM (IQ6Gq) 71
I wonder what percentage of books churn through secondhand stores and what percentage remain in the hands of the original buyer. I'm a hoarder, although of used books. I'm starting to wonder how many of mine will go into the estate sale unread. Posted by: Weak Geek at March 10, 2024 09:33 AM (p/isN) --- The owner is something of an eccentric, and his collection reflects that. He has mass-market books, but he's drawn to the esoteric and in a sense, the book stores are his personal libraries. As to pass-through, I think it depends. I buy books to read and keep them if I like them. If I don't, I get rid of them. I am very cautious about buying books because my in-laws were hoarders and I'm very sensitive to this. Memento Mori is prominently displayed in our home. My wife and daughter came with me and my youngest glanced around but said her "to read" stack was already high enough. I know, I know. "Blasphemy!" Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:41 AM (llXky) 72
Took a break from Shelby Foote's Civil War and tried some Bruce Catton. I have his two books about General Grant. I'm enjoying his writing. It is similar in approach to Foote who is still my favorite. Catton provides context for situations and personal details for the people involved so you can understand the times and motivations. He uses footnotes but doesn't drown the reader with them. Vastly superior to the history textbooks I remember from high school and college: dry, full of facts but little understanding, and perpetuating popular misconceptions about the times and individuals.
Catton wrote a lot on the Civil War but I started with the Grant books because I find Grant so interesting. The idea of the gruff cigar smoking, hard drinking, attack, attack general is so incomplete as to be sinful. Read his dispatches and his memoirs. Follow the care he took in planning battles and troop movement. Learn about his attachment to his beloved wife. Like George Washington, there is a lot more to the man than typically is covered in the standard books. Posted by: JTB at March 10, 2024 09:41 AM (zudum) 73
This week I've been reading two books from my recent bookstore raid. The first (and better) is _Kai Lung's Golden Hours_, by Ernest Bramah. It's a novel written by a British author in the 1920s, set in ancient China. Not sure exactly when, except that there are Mandarins and an Emperor, but that doesn't narrow it down much.
It's fun, a kind of Arabian Nights style narrative where the clever storyteller Kai Lung has to keep spinning yarns to keep from being executed. He is aided by the lovely Hwa Mei, and has to deal with a vindictive bureaucrat who keeps coming up with new crimes to accuse him of. Not at all relevant to our day. It's a lovely book, really captures the spirit of old China, and of course nowadays anyone publishing anything like this would be sentenced to be burned alive by a tribunal of Ibram X. Kendi, Anita Sarkeesian, and Brianna Wu. Fortunately Dover Books (the Keepers of the Flame of the West) have a facsimile edition in softcover. Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 09:41 AM (78a2H) 74
On foster care. Had a HS teacher/football coach and his wife who had 4 of their own, then adopted 6. All started as foster care. All races and ages. Teach was pasty redhead, wife a blond so it stood out.
Last 2, brother and sister from a bad situation. CPS called and asked if they could take them just until they could find a placement. His wife said “You know if those kids come here they’re never leaving.” Posted by: Marty at March 10, 2024 09:41 AM (6LexV) 75
Good morning everyone. I was hoping someone could recommend books about the history of the British in India. I know it’s not something that you could fit into one book without losing details, but I’m curious about this part of British history and I have no problem reading any number of books on the subject. Just can’t let the wife know that my TBR pile will be getting higher. LOL.
Thanks in advance. Posted by: RetSgtRN at March 10, 2024 09:41 AM (eTkTC) 76
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:33 AM (omVj0)
If I was into re-enacting, that's a great site to buy stuff. I wouldn't mind visiting that village Jon and crew built as a frontier colonial settlement. Been watching his YT channel off and on for a few years now. Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 10, 2024 09:42 AM (0eaVi) 77
Recently I read my first bit of "Lady Mechanika." A comic book, and a somewhat modern one. There are a half-dozen books available on Amazon (some of them quite cheap) and each book appears to be its own separate adventure. The story is set in a steampunk world, or at least a high-tech world with a victorian culture. The title-character is a lady with mechanical limbs, and no memory of how she acquired them. She's got an inventor-dude sidekick, who is affable but somewhat buffoonish. And she fights crime/tech-monsters in a London-stand-in that in anachronistically diverse.
In short, the book hits all the cliches for insufferable modern storytelling. And yet, it isn't. The book I read (volume 3) was just a standard, well-told (if slightly too short) adventure story. I liked it. And I picked up a few other volumes. Also, the art is extremely 90s. Elegant, if very lanky figures, and everything is sharp and pointy. And the art is detailed enough to really drive home the steampunk/clockwork aesthetic. Posted by: Castle Guy at March 10, 2024 09:42 AM (Lhaco) 78
Re: the Fostercare book
John (late, first) Husband and I were going through the training to be foster parents when several major life changes made that no longer an option. We were becoming very concerned about how the whole thing would effect the biological children we already had, so we may well not have proceeded even without those changes. It seems like families who *are* sincere and doing everything they can are often the ones the State ends up harassing while letting the known evil money-grubbers continue with no trouble. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 09:42 AM (XjtdB) 79
36 This week...The operations manual for the 2024 Subaru Forrester.
It gives no clue where or how to turn off all the stupid safety and fuel ecconomy shit this car has packed into it. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 09:19 AM *** Amen. The car should work for you not the other way around. I also hate having a computer with wheels rather than a car with a computer. fwiw, we have a Subaru BRZ and really like it. But there are bells and alerts that I'd love to be able to de-activate. Posted by: TRex at March 10, 2024 09:44 AM (IQ6Gq) 80
I just finished Ursula K. LeGuin's A Wizard of Earthsea. Entertaining read, but also a "simplified" version of fantasy.
After reading the Malazan books, other books just seem to be so much easier to read... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2024 09:44 AM (BpYfr) 81
The other side of "90% of everything is crap" is how much good stuff is out there and is ignored. Not about reading so no link, but Rick Beato has a couple of videos about how much good music he's produced which is the result of people's extended efforts and no one will ever hear.
Posted by: yara at March 10, 2024 09:38 AM (jwDtS) --- Yes. We now have three Dune adaptations and about to kick off the fourth or fifth Batman series (depends on how you count it), it's never been easier to discover new writing talent but Hollywood would rather paint by number using AI (which was programmed by the same hacks who can't write a decent story). I mean, AI is nothing more than GIGO writ large. The notion that 100 stupid, ignorant people can create a smart, witty one is ludicrous. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:45 AM (llXky) 82
This week I've been reading two books from my recent bookstore raid. The first (and better) is _Kai Lung's Golden Hours_, by Ernest Bramah. It's a novel written by a British author in the 1920s, set in ancient China. Not sure exactly when, except that there are Mandarins and an Emperor, but that doesn't narrow it down much. . . .
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 *** I believe Bramah was also a pioneer in the "disabled detective" subgenre, with a blind detective named Max Carrados. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:47 AM (omVj0) 83
@65: re Belloc's Great Heresies. People that know more than me seem to think Islam is a Jewish rather than a Christian heresy, though exactly why they think that I don't know.
Posted by: yara at March 10, 2024 09:47 AM (jwDtS) 84
48 Prolly ten years ago I read The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 10, 2024 09:25 AM It wouldn't hurt me to read something like that, but I really hate that kind of book. So, I'm probably target audience. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 10, 2024 09:47 AM (OX9vb) 85
2024 Subaru Forrester. It gives no clue where or how to turn off all the stupid safety and fuel ecconomy shit this car has packed into it. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 09:19 AM How to turn off: 5:53 video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUF2TlamfFc Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 10, 2024 09:49 AM (RKVpM) 86
The other side of "90% of everything is crap" is how much good stuff is out there and is ignored. Not about reading so no link, but Rick Beato has a couple of videos about how much good music he's produced which is the result of people's extended efforts and no one will ever hear.
Posted by: yara at March 10, 2024 09:38 AM (jwDtS) --- This comes up in Bova's Cyberbooks. The editors at publishing houses are NOT concerned at all about quality--only "what sells." A trashy horror author receives a million dollar advance because he brings in tons of revenue, while a truly excellent novel only receives a $5,000 advance and will not be promoted by the publisher. First time author. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2024 09:49 AM (BpYfr) 87
Because islam borrowed more of jewish iconography and customs dietary habits and such
Mohammed had less contacts with nazrani then the jews in the khaybar valley Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 09:50 AM (PXvVL) 88
I was hoping someone could recommend books about the history of the British in India. I know it’s not something that you could fit into one book without losing details, but I’m curious about this part of British history and I have no problem reading any number of books on the subject. Just can’t let the wife know that my TBR pile will be getting higher. LOL.
Thanks in advance. Posted by: RetSgtRN Somewhat tangential, but I enjoyed reading Thug, by Mike Dash. It is the history of the Thuggee, the huge band of Indian killers and theives that plagued the country for years, and how the East India company developed a campaign to wipe them out. Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 09:50 AM (56Kaj) 89
Kelton's stuff has not been made into many movies (that I know of), which puzzles me. He draws interesting characters who are easy to picture as character or leading actors. His Canfield here, for instance, would have been a good role for Lee Van Cleef.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:10 AM (omVj0) I met Kelton once. He seemed like a good guy. I think the main reason for lack of Hollywood is that he's a very naturalistic storyteller. His most famous and probably best book, "The Time It Never Rained" is a good example of this. I'm not a big Westerns reader, so I didn't dig deep into his oeuvre but he seemed like a more "slice of life"y kind of author than a "good vs bad conflict"y author, which is what Hollywood likes. Posted by: naturalfake at March 10, 2024 09:50 AM (nFnyb) 90
Amen. The car should work for you not the other way around. I also hate having a computer with wheels rather than a car with a computer.
fwiw, we have a Subaru BRZ and really like it. But there are bells and alerts that I'd love to be able to de-activate. Posted by: TRex at March 10, 2024 *** The '15 BMW had that ASS (automatic stop-start) feature, but you could turn it off and keep it off. When I was shopping for its replacement, I liked the '17 or '18 Buick LaCrosse, the last generation. But you couldn't turn that feature off without a $150 aftermarket device. The '16 Buick does not have it, and I'm glad. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:51 AM (omVj0) 91
re Belloc's Great Heresies. People that know more than me seem to think Islam is a Jewish rather than a Christian heresy, though exactly why they think that I don't know.
Posted by: yara at March 10, 2024 09:47 AM (jwDtS) --- I haven't finished Belloc's take on it, but other modern scholars have noted that well after Mohammed's supposed death, "Muslim" rulers were still minting coins with Christian symbols on them. This is utterly at variance with every other regime in history - the first thing you do is change the coins. There are some Roman emperors whose reign was so brief that the only image we have of them is from their coins. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:51 AM (llXky) 92
Started "Interstellar Medic: The Long Run" by Patrick Chiles this week. I would classify this one as science fiction light or light hearted. So far so fun.
Posted by: Tuna at March 10, 2024 09:51 AM (oaGWv) 93
Yes no one really had any contemporaneous contact with mohammed not the byzantines or the persians
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 09:52 AM (PXvVL) 94
I'm not making much progress in "The Case for Christian Nationalism." It's not a bad book, but it's not a rousing adventure story that makes you stay up late just to read another page. The next few days will be filled reading over disclosure forms and what-not, since we're in the middle of buying a new house. SMOD, where are thy tender mercies?
Posted by: PabloD at March 10, 2024 09:54 AM (zqwN3) 95
Because islam borrowed more of jewish iconography and customs dietary habits and such
Mohammed had less contacts with nazrani then the jews in the khaybar valley Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 09:50 AM (PXvVL) --- That could simply have been an effort to differentiate it from Orthodoxy while also assuming the attitude of an older, more austere faith. The Mormons at one point claimed to be Israel's true heirs and in the founding years called non-believers gentiles. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:56 AM (llXky) 96
88 I was hoping someone could recommend books about the history of the British in India. I know it’s not something that you could fit into one book without losing details, but I’m curious about this part of British history and I have no problem reading any number of books on the subject. Just can’t let the wife know that my TBR pile will be getting higher. LOL.
Thanks in advance. Posted by: RetSgtRN "Sharpe's Tiger" by Bernard Cornwell. It's fiction, but it fits your theme. And I think Cornwell has a good reputation for historical accuracy...It'll give you a feel for the era, if nothing else. And I think a few of the other Sharpe books also take place in India. Posted by: Castle Guy at March 10, 2024 09:56 AM (Lhaco) 97
Yes no one really had any contemporaneous contact with mohammed not the byzantines or the persians
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 09:52 AM (PXvVL) --- Gibbon pointed this out at great length. Belloc references Gibbon in his discussion of Arianism, dissing him in a way that Captain Hate would have loved. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 09:57 AM (llXky) 98
Somewhat tangential, but I enjoyed reading Thug, by Mike Dash. It is the history of the Thuggee, the huge band of Indian killers and theives that plagued the country for years, and how the East India company developed a campaign to wipe them out.
Thanks. I’ll check it out. Sounds like Gunga Din, one of my favorite movies. Posted by: RetSgtRN at March 10, 2024 09:57 AM (eTkTC) 99
Posted by: TRex at March 10, 2024 09:29 AM (IQ6Gq)
The most important thing I learned about Musk, not even sure how at this point, was that he's a big fan of Kerbal Space Program (which was mentioned several times in the original Gaming Thread at the HQ). The Rapid Unplanned Disassembly (RUD) so deprecated in the recent 60 Minutes episode comes from that game. And when Musk says he meant a prototype to blow up? He *means* that. That's why he makes them out of stainless steel. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 09:58 AM (XjtdB) 100
"World Without Rain"
Many contend that there was no rain prior to the Great Flood of Noah's day. Supposedly a mist arose from the ground to water green things or some such. I'm not so sure the Bible story clarifies the point though. Posted by: illiniwek at March 10, 2024 09:58 AM (Cus5s) 101
The '15 BMW had that ASS (automatic stop-start) feature, but you could turn it off and keep it off. When I was shopping for its replacement, I liked the '17 or '18 Buick LaCrosse, the last generation. But you couldn't turn that feature off without a $150 aftermarket device. The '16 Buick does not have it, and I'm glad.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius In a world where everything is expensive and borrowing costs are high, you would think that someone would market a vehicle with minimal bells and whistles. There are too many "safety and convenience" features that are just costly additional failure points. Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 09:58 AM (56Kaj) 102
My second book was _An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West_, by Konstantin Kisin. He's the smaller, hip-looking dude on TRIGGERnometry. Family from Russia, suffered a lot of trouble because of very mild political dissent. His parents did manage to send him to the UK for school in the 80s and he never wanted to go back. The book's basically "why are so many Westerners trying to destroy the West?"
The book's good, a solid and well-reasoned polemic. I have to say that I think I know why Kisin's career as a standup comic led him into political commentary -- he's a hell of a lot better at commentary than he is at making jokes. I got it at a leftyish bookstore, and I suspect nobody there knew what was inside. Just "immigrant good, Russia bad, put it on the shelf!" Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 09:58 AM (78a2H) 103
63 ... "I might buy one of their Deluxe Leather Wallets to keep in the car. "
Wolfus, I've bought a lot of stuff from Townsends over the years. It's good stuff. That wallet may not be fancy since it's intended for reenactors but I'm sure it would be well made. The knives they sell are expensive but excellent and their stoneware and hand made redware vessels are great. And they look so cool. In keeping with the thread, Townsends offers a lot of books on 18th century history, some fairly obscure, and at decent prices. Posted by: JTB at March 10, 2024 09:59 AM (zudum) 104
How to turn off:
5:53 video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUF2TlamfFc Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 10, 2024 09:49 AM (RKVpM) Wait, what? I could just watch the movie. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 09:59 AM (OnhBr) 105
References to Kai Lung appear several times in Dorothy Sayers's Peter Whimsey novels. Harriet's recognition of a quote from Kai Lung is one of the first things that attracted Peter to her.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at March 10, 2024 09:59 AM (FEVMW) 106
ecause islam borrowed more of jewish iconography and customs dietary habits and such
Mohammed had less contacts with nazrani then the jews in the khaybar valley Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 *** I recall reading that Mohammed invited the Jews of his time to take part in his jihad. They went, "Nah, bro. 'Nother time, maybe." Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 10:00 AM (omVj0) 107
Currently re-reading A Practical Guide to Evil. I don't know how many words it is, but I've been working on it for several weeks at least and not quite to the end, and I typically read several books a week. But don't let that put you off - the Guide is outstanding.
Next up, I'll get back to my unread ebook backlog. It's interesting going through these; I've picked up a really eclectic selection of free ebooks over the years. Biography, history, science, SF, cozy mystery, thriller, etc., etc. Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 10, 2024 10:00 AM (Y+AMd) 108
Nonfiction books about the British Raj are hard to find. You can get reprints of 19th century works, but they are often too narrow-focused. Anything written after Indian independence is likely to have elements of "white man BAD" in it, getting worse as you get closer to the present.
For depictions of life in British India, just read everything Kipling ever wrote. Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 10:01 AM (78a2H) 109
"Interstellar Medic: The Long Run" by Patrick ChilesPosted by: Tuna at March 10, 2024 09:51 AM (oaGWv)
I might get this one. Reviews are positive. Thanks. Posted by: 13times at March 10, 2024 10:01 AM (xvrHE) 110
In a world where everything is expensive and borrowing costs are high, you would think that someone would market a vehicle with minimal bells and whistles. There are too many "safety and convenience" features that are just costly additional failure points.
Posted by: Thomas Paine You could design and build one; but, you can't sell it in the US, there are too many rules and regs which the insurance companies demanded and are now enforced by the feds. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 10, 2024 10:02 AM (66s2O) 111
o it's off to Abebooks or WorldCat to scrounge a paper copy, depending on how much it costs.
Oooh, I just learned something new. Thank you. Posted by: Oddbob at March 10, 2024 10:02 AM (sNc8Y) 112
In a world where everything is expensive and borrowing costs are high, you would think that someone would market a vehicle with minimal bells and whistles. There are too many "safety and convenience" features that are just costly additional failure points.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 *** My LaCrosse may not have the ASS, but it has lots of other things like side vehicle detection, lane departure warning (which I've turned off), a warning beep and flash for obstacles ahead (I've kept that on for city driving), and more. So far the car has 77K miles, is 8.5 years old, and everything has held up. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 10:03 AM (omVj0) 113
Thanks Thomas Paine for the recommendation on Thug by Mike Dash. Just ordered a copy.
Posted by: RetSgtRN at March 10, 2024 10:03 AM (eTkTC) 114
Some time ago one of the commenters here mentioned the "ICS Fleet" series of SiFi books. I had some credits or whatever Amazon uses and was able to pick up the series a couple weeks ago. With the weather being crappy the past week or so I've made progress and I'm now on book #3.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 10, 2024 10:04 AM (Q4IgG) 115
In keeping with the thread, Townsends offers a lot of books on 18th century history, some fairly obscure, and at decent prices.
Posted by: JTB at March 10, 2024 09:59 AM (zudum) I was interested in the Hessian soldier's diary Jon mentioned a couple of years ago. Found it in the local library and started reading it during story time the kid and wife were attending. Went back a couple of weeks later, and it wasn't on the shelf, and no longer showing in the catalog. Couldn't remember the name for the longest time. Think I know which one it is, but can't get through library loan. It was the Brunswicker who went home after the Revolution. Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 10, 2024 10:04 AM (0eaVi) 116
@88 --
I've not read it, but I understand that Kipling's "Kim" has details about the British in India. And this is not a book, but I've heard good things about the PBS documentary "The Jewel in the Crown." Posted by: Weak Geek at March 10, 2024 10:04 AM (p/isN) 117
101 In a world where everything is expensive and borrowing costs are high, you would think that someone would market a vehicle with minimal bells and whistles. There are too many "safety and convenience" features that are just costly additional failure points.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 09:58 AM *** Sadly, you are a problem and risk to be managed. The "features" are there to control you, not to empower you. These things make cars more expensive to produce and repair, and then we all look at each other with open palms turned upward to the sky and wonder why vehicles keep getting more expensive... Posted by: TRex at March 10, 2024 10:04 AM (IQ6Gq) 118
Thanks Thomas Paine for the recommendation on Thug by Mike Dash. Just ordered a copy.
Posted by: RetSgtRN I thought the 'Temple of Doom' took out the Thuggies? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 10, 2024 10:04 AM (66s2O) 119
Few things are more satisfying than buying a new book. But it can also feel good when you don't buy a book, and know that you made the right decision.
On Kickstarter I saw a campaign to release some hardcover collections of "the Darkness" comic. I was torn. I've gotten some books from the publisher before, and they were well put-together. The art would have been peak 90's, including work from Mark Silvestri. But...The story was urban fantasy, about a mafia hit-man who inherits demonic powers. Not my usual cup of tea. Did I really want to gamble that the art could carry a less-than-enjoyable story? Nope! As it happens, I have some digital "The Darkness" comics from an old Humble Bundle. After actually reading some the comics, I can safely say that they are not for me, and pass on the hardcovers guilt-free. ...Man, there were some unpleasant characters in that comic. Starting with our 'protagonist'.... Posted by: Castle Guy at March 10, 2024 10:05 AM (Lhaco) 120
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 09:41 AM (78a2H)
Ernest Brahmah also has a series of stories about a blind detective in England. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name right now. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 10:05 AM (XjtdB) 121
Wait, what? I could just watch the movie.
Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 09:59 AM (OnhBr) Voids the warrantee, I'd bet. Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 10, 2024 10:05 AM (0eaVi) 122
Finished "Doomsday Recon" by Ryan Williamson and Jason Anspach, which I absolutely loved. I call the genre Fantastical Apocalyptic, and it's a fun genre I can tell ya.
Just started Ryan Williamson's first novel, "The Widow's Son," which is also great and involves vampires, native American legends and Buffalo Soldiers riding weird coal-fired machines. Also, Catholic priests and nuns fighting the vampires and witches with, among other things, an exploding sphere containing Holy water that the priest got from some folks in Antioch, IYKWIMAITYD. Really great stuff I'm thoroughly enjoying. Posted by: Sharkman at March 10, 2024 10:06 AM (/RHNq) 123
Thats the raj quartet
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 10:06 AM (PXvVL) Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 10, 2024 10:07 AM (0eaVi) 125
A.H., I've been to Curious Book Shop a couple times and it's a hoot! Just stacks of stuff. And they have a nifty selection of old sci fi paperbacks. You will always find a magnificent gem in that Smaug pile.
Posted by: All Hail Eris _____________ Was in Detroit for a day and wanted to do two things, but didn't get to do either. See the Michigan Central Station and go to the King bookstore. Does the bookstore fill that entire warehouse? Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 10, 2024 10:07 AM (Dm8we) 126
Reading The Year of the Locust by Terry Hayes. It’s every bit as good as I am Pilgrim. Thanks to the moron who recommended I am Pilgrim a couple of years ago. Take a bow sir or madam. Posted by: GeoNC at March 10, 2024 10:08 AM (wOaji) 127
Ernest Brahmah also has a series of stories about a blind detective in England. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name right now.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 10:05 AM (XjtdB) Max Carrados Posted by: Wethal at March 10, 2024 10:08 AM (NufIr) 128
I thought the 'Temple of Doom' took out the Thuggies?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 10, 2024 *** Believe it or not, twenty years before that IJ film, The Man From U.N.C.L.E. had an atmospheric episode, "The Yellow Scarf Affair," with Solo encountering a modern Thuggee cult who didn't just murder travelers by the roadside, but on airplanes! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 10:09 AM (omVj0) 129
I have the complete collection of Kipling. He was an amazing writer. I remember way back when I first read The Jungle Book. Disney it ain’t.
I love his descriptions of life in India. I thought I would give other books a read. Posted by: RetSgtRN at March 10, 2024 10:09 AM (eTkTC) 130
9700 frigging pages. You must have a head like cranium boy up top. Still, I'm tempted to read one of those books. They sound pretty cool.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2024 10:11 AM (VwHCD) 131
If you haven't read Kim, read it. I'm not kidding, it's in the short list for Greatest Novel of All Time. Every time I re-read it I find new excellences.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 10:12 AM (78a2H) 132
I have the complete collection of Kipling. He was an amazing writer. I remember way back when I first read The Jungle Book. Disney it ain’t.
I love his descriptions of life in India. I thought I would give other books a read. Posted by: RetSgtRN at March 10, 2024 10:09 AM (eTkTC) --- Supposedly when hiring the creative staff, Walt wouldn't take anyone who had read the book because he was going to it his way. At least he was honest. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 10:15 AM (llXky) 133
"...and go to the King bookstore. Does the bookstore fill that entire warehouse?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 10, 2024 10:07 AM (Dm8we)" ----- It's YUGE! And yes, as far as I can tell. Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 10, 2024 10:15 AM (3e3hy) 134
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Reading The Year of the Locust by Terry Hayes. It’s every bit as good as I am Pilgrim. Thanks to the moron who recommended I am Pilgrim a couple of years ago. Take a bow sir or madam. Posted by: GeoNC at March 10, 2024 10:08 AM (wOaji) Oooh, just put that on hold at the library--thanks for reminding me. I loved I Am Pilgrim, and have been looking forward to this release. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 10, 2024 10:15 AM (OX9vb) 135
Has anyone thought of creating a cultural seed bank? Store up books and CDs of things the Left wants to destroy? Right now public libraries are all about last year's bestsellers and whatever Oprah recommends. University libraries _ought_ to be the cultural repositories, but I know perfectly well that lefty administrators would happily host book-burnings to purge the shelves.
Anybody own a salt mine they can donate to the cause? Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 10:17 AM (78a2H) 136
Voids the warrantee, I'd bet.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 10, 2024 10:05 AM (0eaVi) That'd be my luck. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 10:18 AM (iZ4/B) 137
131 If you haven't read Kim, read it. I'm not kidding, it's in the short list for Greatest Novel of All Time. Every time I re-read it I find new excellences.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 10:12 AM (78a2H) Hm. Digital version of the book is 99 cents. It is bought. Posted by: Castle Guy at March 10, 2024 10:18 AM (Lhaco) 138
Also, Catholic priests and nuns fighting the vampires and witches with, among other things, an exploding sphere containing Holy water that the priest got from some folks in Antioch, IYKWIMAITYD.
Really great stuff I'm thoroughly enjoying. Posted by: Sharkman "Thou shalt count to three..." Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 10:19 AM (56Kaj) 139
I recall reading that Mohammed invited the Jews of his time to take part in his jihad. They went, "Nah, bro. 'Nother time, maybe."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 10:00 AM (omVj0) --- One of the arguments that Islam is a heresy is the way it treats Christians and Jews. The whole "conversion by the sword" thing really applies to them alone, because when you roll up on a new society, you first have to explain your faith before conversion is even possible. The assumption with heresy is that the other people know the truth, but refuse to admit it, instead adhering to proven lies. This is why they get such rough treatment, because they're not ignorant of the faith, but blaspheming it. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 10:19 AM (llXky) 140
Last night, we streamed "Poor Things" (wait for it. This has a book connection).
"Poor Things" is the "Freddy Got Fingered" of "Fear of Flying"s. However, it made me think of "Lanark" which is the first novel IIRC written by Alasdair Gray. "Lanark' was also listed as one of Anthony Burgess' 99 greatest novels of the 20th Century. "Lanark" is basically a story of hell, where the denizens thereof are forced to relive their lives over again in a grotesque and surreal manner. It's a bit dry. I liked it well enough but didn't love it. Check it out though if that sounds interesting to you. Reliving your life over again with changes seems to be Alasdair Gray Big Theme and it's basically what happens in "Poor Things". A pregnant woman driven to suicide by her cruel husband is has her brain taken out and her babies brain implanted by a Frankensteinian doctor, gains a feminist perspective, mainly through fucking, "rejoins" her old life but this time murders her asshole-husband by taking out her husband's brain a replacing it with a goat's. "Lanark' is the better story if your thing is literary fantasy. Posted by: naturalfake at March 10, 2024 10:20 AM (nFnyb) 141
Has anyone thought of creating a cultural seed bank? Store up books and CDs of things the Left wants to destroy? Right now public libraries are all about last year's bestsellers and whatever Oprah recommends.
Posted by: Trimegistus I'm pretty much doing that now. Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 10:21 AM (56Kaj) 142
And the Lord spake, saying, ''First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'
Posted by: TRex at March 10, 2024 10:21 AM (IQ6Gq) 143
Speaking of Thugees reminds me that the video game Nightingale (gaslamp survival crafting) introduced the 40 Elephants as an element of the story and I had to look that up.
Turns out they were a real-life all girl ring of thieves in the late Victorian and early Edwardian era that were known for their success and ability to evade capture, which almost certainly means they had official help of some sort. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 10:23 AM (XjtdB) 144
I am Pilgrim. A super enjoyable spy thriller.
>>>>Posted by: GeoNC at March 10, 2024 10:08 AM (wOaji) Posted by: 13times at March 10, 2024 10:24 AM (J3ppD) 145
115 ... OrangeEnt,
Could the book be "A Hessian Diary of the American Revolution" by Johann Conrad Döhla? if so, it is available, new and used, on Amazon. I might get a copy since the Hessian soldier in question was part of the British (spit) occupying force in Newport, RI, my home town. Posted by: JTB at March 10, 2024 10:24 AM (zudum) 146
Store up books and CDs of things the Left wants to destroy?
If you're going to preserve digital media, you also need to preserve the devices needed to read them and the instructions for the devices. Depending on your level of pessimism, you might also need to preserve sources to power those devices and fuel for those. It quickly becomes a rabbit hole. But ink on paper is always good. Posted by: Oddbob at March 10, 2024 10:26 AM (sNc8Y) 147
This has been my reading for the last couple of weeks. Building out the success measures and technical performance metrics for an FMS program. Link goes to aiaa.org https://is.gd/t5skYE Posted by: BifBewalski at March 10, 2024 10:27 AM (MsrgL) 148
Locusts goes a little crazy
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 10:27 AM (PXvVL) 149
Finished The Scholomance Trilogy by Naomi Novik earlier this week. I know it's received a lot of glowing reviews but honestly I was underwhelmed.
Reminded me in a way of the Twilight novels in that there was a lot of what I call "talky talk" from El, the main character. Then by the third book it seems like the author felt she had to establish her progressive creds by adding a lesbian relationship for El. So unnecessary in my view as I added absolutely nothing to the story. Posted by: Tuna at March 10, 2024 10:27 AM (oaGWv) 150
I had some time to kill yesterday, and roamed around a Barnes & Noble nearby. It looks like they are putting in at least an effort to appeal to more than just lefties now. I did note however that they only seem to carry the latest book by any author I might be interested in - I imagine the used book market has claimed that segment, and they know they cannot compete.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 10:28 AM (56Kaj) 151
Reliving your life over again with changes seems to be Alasdair Gray Big Theme and it's basically what happens in "Poor Things". A pregnant woman driven to suicide by her cruel husband is has her brain taken out and her babies brain implanted by a Frankensteinian doctor, gains a feminist perspective, mainly through fucking, "rejoins" her old life but this time murders her asshole-husband by taking out her husband's brain a replacing it with a goat's.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 10, 2024 10:20 AM (nFnyb) --- The reminds me that as part of the whole trans thing, I'm seeing a lot more discussion about the inseparability of body and soul in various religious publications. You can only "know" who you are, and if you think you know, that's just your fantasy, it's not objective truth. It's basically a rebuttal to the notion that humans put together on an assembly line and an absent-minded angel or distracted God slips the wrong soul into your body, requiring after-market replacement parts. It's really weird how fast that became "settled science." Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 10:29 AM (llXky) 152
Could the book be "A Hessian Diary of the American Revolution" by Johann Conrad Döhla? if so, it is available, new and used, on Amazon.
I might get a copy since the Hessian soldier in question was part of the British (spit) occupying force in Newport, RI, my home town. Posted by: JTB at March 10, 2024 10:24 AM (zudum) That seems to be it. Looks like it's available on archive.org. I can read it there. Thanks. Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 10, 2024 10:29 AM (0eaVi) 153
I'm pretty much doing that now.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 10:21 AM (56Kaj) Ditto. Neighbors need to quit asking about my new mounds of dirt and mind they own business though. No, it's not a doomsday bunker It's a salt mine okay, fk off. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 10:29 AM (iZ4/B) 154
Huh, some text got clipped. "If you think you know what it is to be the opposite sex, that's just your fantasy, not objective truth."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 10:30 AM (llXky) 155
What materials are in the Library of Congress collections?
The Library has in its collections well over 100 million items, in hundreds of different languages and virtually every format--not just books and journals, but also prints, drawings, government documents, photographs, microforms, films, sound and video recordings, manuscripts, and other formats. As large and diverse as the Library's collections are, it does not have every book ever published. While virtually all subject areas are represented in the collections, the Library does not attempt to collect comprehensively in the areas of clinical medicine and technical agriculture, which are covered by the National Library of Medicine and the National Agricultural Library, respectively. Researchers should also note that the Library of Congress is distinct from the National Archives, which is the major repository for the official records of the United States government. Posted by: TRex at March 10, 2024 10:30 AM (IQ6Gq) 156
If the Democrats are able to turn America into the one-party totalitarian kleptocracy of their dreams, I wouldn't bet a whole lot of money on how well the Library of Congress collections are preserved.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 10:34 AM (78a2H) 157
Re: 65, 83, 91, 95:
Islam has a wonderfully narcissistic trick I call Retcon Doctrine: Simply declare that the original monotheist, Avraham, was an orthodox Muslim, therefore all earlier religions are actually Islamic heresies. No refutation is possible, because no contrary evidence is admitted. But while the topic is in the air, it's instructive to remember that from another perspective, Christianity is a Jewish heresy from a period which spawned quite a lot of them. Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 10, 2024 10:34 AM (SPNTN) 158
No, it's not a doomsday bunker It's a salt mine okay, fk off.
Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 10:29 AM (iZ4/B) Heh. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 10, 2024 10:35 AM (OX9vb) 159
135 ... "Anybody own a salt mine they can donate to the cause?"
If I had one I would do just that: preserve physical copies of the written word that are under threat from the left. A library of Alexandria approach but with better security and technology. Like you, I have no faith in the Left preserving anything outside their nihilistic, ephemeral view. They are the Taliban for books and art. Posted by: JTB at March 10, 2024 10:35 AM (zudum) 160
I had some time to kill yesterday, and roamed around a Barnes & Noble nearby. It looks like they are putting in at least an effort to appeal to more than just lefties now. I did note however that they only seem to carry the latest book by any author I might be interested in - I imagine the used book market has claimed that segment, and they know they cannot compete.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 *** Abut twelve years ago when the film Skyfall came out, B & N had the new softcover printings of all the James Bond books with neat cover paintings (read: attractive girls), and I should have bought them. Two years ago I went looking for anything by Fleming to give to a writing group colleague, so he could see how tension, action, and fight scenes can be done. Zip for Ian Fleming. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 10:38 AM (omVj0) 161
150 I had some time to kill yesterday, and roamed around a Barnes & Noble nearby. It looks like they are putting in at least an effort to appeal to more than just lefties now.
-- It very much depends on the location. It's fun to check out BNs when traveling Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 10, 2024 10:40 AM (DpEcY) 162
I have no faith in the Left preserving anything outside their nihilistic, ephemeral view. They are the Taliban for books and art.
Posted by: JTB They are already tearing down statues of our founding fathers; books are certainly next. One must destroy the evidence of a better world before creating a false history of the new, inferior world. Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2024 10:41 AM (56Kaj) 163
156 If the Democrats are able to turn America into the one-party totalitarian kleptocracy of their dreams, I wouldn't bet a whole lot of money on how well the Library of Congress collections are preserved.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 10:34 AM (78a2H) Eh, they'll probably burn the contents. Year Zero and all that you know. One of the funniest, for certain values of funny, things when we visited France was going to Versailles and seeing the guide complain, in the French Way, about how there's very few pieces of original furniture left in the palace, because- the French Revolutionaries sold all of their furniture to the British Royal Family for cash, because who needs that old historic royal crap anyway. But, now, the French want the furniture back and they have to pay current market prices, aaaaaand can't afford to do it more than one piece at a time. Makes the French castle look shabby compared to the Italian ones. Posted by: naturalfake at March 10, 2024 10:42 AM (nFnyb) 164
It very much depends on the location.
It's fun to check out BNs when traveling TBH, I've never noticed a dime's worth of difference between different B&N stores. Posted by: Oddbob at March 10, 2024 10:44 AM (sNc8Y) 165
BTW, full SpaceX Starship stack underway right now in Boca Chica. March 14 plan for launch.
Posted by: TRex at March 10, 2024 10:44 AM (IQ6Gq) 166
Old books written by English authors about the British Raj.
Internet Archive; creator:"Digital Library Of India" The OCR scanning runs the gamut from horrific to pretty good quality, but rarely excellent. At least its all free to download. Posted by: 13times at March 10, 2024 10:45 AM (MUx3Y) 167
Thanks for the Sunday Morning Book Thread, Perfessor!
Still reading fluff and enjoying every page. I seem to have misplaced an hour this fine morning... Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 10, 2024 10:46 AM (KglbO) 168
BTW, full SpaceX Starship stack underway right now in Boca Chica. March 14 plan for launch.
* looks up from browsing pron * Wut?! Posted by: EPA Droid #22178 at March 10, 2024 10:46 AM (sNc8Y) 169
The new Head Guy at B&N has tried to save the company from ruin by giving store managers much more discretion is what they stock and what they push. The idea is that the manager of the store in Tulsa probably knows what people in Tulsa are reading better than some blue-haired fool at the main office.
For some reason "Tulsa" is a very hard word to type. Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2024 10:46 AM (78a2H) 170
The operations manual for the 2024 Subaru Forrester.
This epic tome of unusual size goes in depth into the features and functions of the car. It gives no clue where or how to turn off all the stupid safety and fuel ecconomy shit this car has packed into it. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 09:19 AM (vQGcO) Word. Mr. S has the 2022, and it is maddening. We call it the "OK, Mom" car. Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at March 10, 2024 10:49 AM (jN2/U) 171
I recently read Anna O by Matthew Blake despite its being a book club pick by some actress or another. It's the story of a forensic psychologist who works in a posh (set in England) private hospital who is assigned the task of waking up a privileged young woman who murdered her two friends by stabbing them many times and then promptly fell asleep and has not awakened in the four years since the incident. It's very twisty and people are not what they seem, of course, but it held my attention and surprised me a few times. It's the author's first book, but I'll keep an eye out for another down the road.
Posted by: huerfano at March 10, 2024 10:50 AM (AT/9h) 172
Well, time to go! Thanks again, Perfesser!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 10:50 AM (llXky) 173
The far pavilians in mid 19th century
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at March 10, 2024 10:51 AM (PXvVL) 174
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 10, 2024 10:29 AM (llXky) The soul just purely as a concept is really interesting. Just as a matter of what we see, it would have to be closely linked/adhered to the body. Playing around with that idea a bit, in the novel I'm currently writing. Posted by: naturalfake at March 10, 2024 10:53 AM (nFnyb) 175
The operations manual for the 2024 Subaru Forrester.
This epic tome of unusual size goes in depth into the features and functions of the car. It gives no clue where or how to turn off all the stupid safety and fuel ecconomy shit this car has packed into it. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 *** Look for an auto forum devoted to Subaru, and to the Forester. People there may have already posted suggestions/tips/tricks, or you can ask. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 10:53 AM (omVj0) 176
Mention of Kipling's "Kim" reminded me of grade school in the early 60s. We were given a copies of Kim to read because it was 'classic' but the shit for brains teacher provided no context or background. We just read and reported what was in the chapter to prove we had done the reading. don't remember anything about the book except that I hated it. What a waste of time and what a great way to kill a child's interest in reading. The bitch did the same thing with David Copperfield. It took half a century for me to get over a hatred for Dickens.
However, I like Kipling so maybe it's time to try reading Kim again. I'll certainly bring a different perspective to it 60-plus years later. The Seawolf Press version has the original illustrations by Kipling's father for a reasonable price. Posted by: JTB at March 10, 2024 10:57 AM (zudum) 177
Mostly been playing Nightingale, which is a blend of real people, who I just realized recently are all "representational" with female reporter Nellie Bly, former slave frontier Marshall Bass Reeves, and girl gang 40 Elephants, but they're all legitimately presented at least so it's better than your average push for minorities and may spark some research into lesser-known historical figures, and literary figures like Viktor Frankenstein and Alan Quartermaine.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 10:58 AM (XjtdB) 178
This week I read A Return To Zion by Bodie Thoene. This is the third book in her The Zion Chronicles series. As Israel approaches statehood, work is done to keep the Old City of Jerusalem stocked with food and to increase the number of weapons there to defend it when the British withdraw. An effort is also being made to acquire WWII surplus planes to form the core of the new state's air force.
Posted by: Zoltan at March 10, 2024 11:01 AM (cfQ/i) 179
Look for an auto forum devoted to Subaru, and to the Forester. People there may have already posted suggestions/tips/tricks, or you can ask.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 10:53 AM (omVj0) That's where I found out they don't make a decent front brush guard for it. We have lots of deer here, that front end looks spendy and I want to wrap it in 1 1/4" tubing. I might build one myself based on one that is available but nothing like what I want. Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 11:02 AM (VxFM0) 180
I even found some blueprints for bookshelves! I may have to try making some as these seem pretty easy to do...Even ace could figure these out...
Are you sure about that? Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 10, 2024 11:02 AM (a3Q+t) 181
>>> It gives no clue where or how to turn off all the stupid safety and fuel ecconomy shit this car has packed into it.
Posted by: Reforger at March 10, 2024 You'd think they'd been clear about optional subscription services. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 10, 2024 11:02 AM (cOq4q) 182
I've been listening to the Charlie Chan series as well and, honestly don't think their all that good. The radio and tv series took a decent character concept and fleshed it out while providing more interesting mysteries. In a lot of ways the original books seem like a way for the author to knock Western habits, and prejudices, while entirely ignoring that China remained horrifically brutal even at its pinnacle of civilization.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 11:05 AM (XjtdB) 183
I was hoping someone could recommend books about the history of the British in India. I know it’s not something that you could fit into one book without losing details, but I’m curious about this part of British history and I have no problem reading any number of books on the subject. Just can’t let the wife know that my TBR pile will be getting higher. LOL.
Thanks in advance. Posted by: RetSgtRN' 'The Anarchy', William Dalrymple. The rather colorful history of the East India Company. From the excerpts I've read it's terrific and a page-turner. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:09 AM (43xH1) 184
while entirely ignoring that China remained horrifically brutal even at its pinnacle of civilization.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 11:05 AM (XjtdB) Pinnacle ....the card game with a lotta face cards ! Posted by: JT at March 10, 2024 11:10 AM (T4tVD) 185
Book club is reading Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles. Last read it a long time ago. It doesn't really hold up. In my memory Bradbury was hard SF but no, not really. I guess as a Golden Age author I thought of him like Clarke.
I remember there was a miniseries of it that had little to do with the book It starred Rock Hudson. Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2024 11:13 AM (IFNME) 186
I've been listening to the Charlie Chan series as well and, honestly don't think their all that good. The radio and tv series took a decent character concept and fleshed it out while providing more interesting mysteries. In a lot of ways the original books seem like a way for the author to knock Western habits, and prejudices, while entirely ignoring that China remained horrifically brutal even at its pinnacle of civilization.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 *** I've never read any of the CC books by Earl Derr Biggers. The "China"-oriented stuff I grew up on was Sax Rohmer's Dr. Fu Manchu thrillers. Nowadays Rohmer has been painted, unfairly in a lot of cases, as a racist for his depiction of Dr. Fu Manchu as an evil mastermind. He was no Arthur Conan Doyle in writing style, but his stories were vivid and memorable. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 11:13 AM (omVj0) 187
If I had any doubts about getting a copy of "Kim", the 3 or fewer star reviews on Amazon resolved them. Complaints about 'hard to read', 'slow pace', 'too little action', 'endless descriptions', etc. I've seen the same remarks in reviews for Moby Dick, The Count of Monte Cristo, even LOTR. I can understand not enjoying a book, that's a matter of taste. But to rate it poorly because it is from a different era and doesn't meet modern 'tastes' is foolish. And these Yahoos aren't embarrassed by their blatant ignorance.
It's almost in the same category as the negative reviews posted about a conservative book a few minutes after its release. I'm sure they absorbed every word and nuance before posting. Posted by: JTB at March 10, 2024 11:13 AM (zudum) 188
182 I've been listening to the Charlie Chan series as well and, honestly don't think their all that good. The radio and tv series took a decent character concept and fleshed it out while providing more interesting mysteries.
**** For an interesting similar experience, try comparing the 1906 original book The Tracer of Lost Persons with the 1940s radio version. (Robert W. Chambers, the "shopgirls' Scheherazade," one of the top authors of the other turn of the century, is now almost completely forgotten except for Mr. Keane, and for the King in Yellow.) Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 10, 2024 11:14 AM (SPNTN) 189
Book club is reading Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles. Last read it a long time ago. It doesn't really hold up. In my memory Bradbury was hard SF but no, not really. I guess as a Golden Age author I thought of him like Clarke.
I remember there was a miniseries of it that had little to do with the book It starred Rock Hudson. Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2024 11:13 AM (IFNME) So, a lotta butt stuff ! Posted by: JT at March 10, 2024 11:14 AM (T4tVD) 190
Two new books to read, the first one I'm kind of paging through:
'AC-119 Gunship Stories', Wayne Laessig and Roy Davis. Published, rather printed, by the veterans association, who are dying off at a rapid rate. Lots of crazy tales. Their website: https://www.ac119gunships.com The book is a compilation of stories from the members of the association. Interesting stuff, I'm kind of reading it off and on as it's just a collection by people who aren't writers, the usual kind of book put out by these kinds of associations. It's unusual enough to hold interest and the plane lore is cool. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:15 AM (43xH1) 191
Book club is reading Ray Bradbury The Martian Chronicles. Last read it a long time ago. It doesn't really hold up. In my memory Bradbury was hard SF but no, not really. I guess as a Golden Age author I thought of him like Clarke.
I remember there was a miniseries of it that had little to do with the book It starred Rock Hudson. Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2024 *** No, Bradbury was more of a poet. His Mars bore little relation to what we thought we knew about the actual red planet even then. The miniseries was in the early to mid-'80s, and I think Darren McGavin was in it too. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 11:15 AM (omVj0) 192
Due to the magic of e-books, Jerry Boyd was just able to release #44 in his "Bob's Saucer Repair" space opera series. He pumps out about one every month. Aside from whatever literary value these short novels have, can you imagine being a publisher and making a run of a new paperback book every single month? And the shelf space it would take in a bookstore to have every volume in the series on hand?
There are some upsides to living in this modern age. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at March 10, 2024 11:16 AM (CUv7Y) 193
Time I nipped off to handle some chores, including shaving. I'll see if I can drop in again before closing time!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 11:17 AM (omVj0) 194
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 10, 2024 11:14 AM (SPNTN)
I've listened to Tracer of Lost Persons on an OTR channel that has both a Youtube and Bitchute presence. The book isn't great? I didn't know that one was from a book. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 11:18 AM (XjtdB) 195
It's unusual enough to hold interest and the plane lore is cool.
Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:15 AM (43xH1) No peanut lore ? Posted by: JT at March 10, 2024 11:19 AM (T4tVD) 196
Well, Tracer of Lost Persons was free on Kindle, so I'll give it a try.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 11:21 AM (XjtdB) 197
Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:15 AM (43xH1)
My dad was a loadmaster/instructor on C-119s...always wore his chute while flying. He felt 119s had a bad habit of falling out of the sky. Posted by: BignJames at March 10, 2024 11:24 AM (AwYPR) 198
And the second book, which I didn't get for fun:
'The Occult in Russian and Soviet Culture', Bernice Glatzer Rosenthal (Editor); 1997. This book I got for reference for an ongoing project I am supposed to be working on *right now* but have been avoiding due to personal problems with my role in the subject material. It's outstanding; which doesn't make it any less fun or less depressing. A lot of people have believed some extremely destructive things, and acted on them, and continue to act on them, to cause social, political, and global disasters. It's absolutely not a read for the weak-hearted, it's awful stuff. To its credit, I guess, it's neither particularly judgmental nor enthusiastic about the subject material; with the notable exception of Jewish occultism which, the author being Jewish, dances around as it makes a lot of people look very bad. Why am I slogging through this material? Well. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:25 AM (43xH1) 199
I recently purchased a 2024 car which also has the auto stop-start feature. The manufacturer calls it Eco mode. But I can override it if I like. The car has 4 modes and I can dial them up, Eco, Dry, Wet and Ice.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 10, 2024 11:25 AM (MeG8a) 200
My dad was a loadmaster/instructor on C-119s...always wore his chute while flying. He felt 119s had a bad habit of falling out of the sky.
Posted by: BignJames' The first story I read is about a crash on takeoff caused by overloading and a tendency for the nose to go down (from what I could tell from the writing, which is amateur, sorry it is), and then when it hit the nose would 'fold' underneath the fuselage, killing the cockpit crew and anyone near the front. Then it would catch fire and explode. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:26 AM (43xH1) 201
No peanut lore ?
Posted by: JT' I mean I've read a lot of Vietnam books and unless there is something unusual they kind of are very similar. This one is at least different in subject matter. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:28 AM (43xH1) 202
then when it hit the nose would 'fold' underneath the fuselage, killing the cockpit crew and anyone near the front. Then it would catch fire and explode.
Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:26 AM (43xH1) That seems...bad. Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2024 11:29 AM (IFNME) 203
Posted by: Zoltan at March 10, 2024 11:01 AM (cfQ/i)
For a history of the battle for Jerusalem, there isn't much better than "O Jerusalem," by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 10, 2024 11:32 AM (gSZYf) 204
it was 1979, Mars had a very sparse look, kind of bahaus, rock hudson was the head of the 3rd expedition,
Posted by: no 6 at March 10, 2024 11:33 AM (PXvVL) 205
That seems...bad.
Posted by: blaster' The storyteller was assumed dead, although due to a fluke he simply walked out the rear of the plane as it was crashing and had only a minor back injury. He thought he was fine, and returned to his barracks to find his bunk/room taped off in anticipation of packing up his stuff to ship home. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:34 AM (43xH1) 206
So late but saw Vmom's comment. I loooved both those series.
I'm bogged down in the middle of the third book in the 3Body series by Cixin Liu. Almost gave up and then the good guys came up with a new idea so I will finish to see if they succeed. I read Kelley Armstrong's latest in hr Haven Rock series. Easy read and made for a good break from the 3Body intensity. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 10, 2024 11:34 AM (t/2Uw) 207
However, I like Kipling so maybe it's time to try reading Kim again. I'll certainly bring a different perspective to it 60-plus years later. The Seawolf Press version has the original illustrations by Kipling's father for a reasonable price.
===== When I was a grade school kid, 'Stalky & Company' was my 'wanted to live in the story' book. Password: The bleating of the kid excites the tiger. Posted by: mustbequantum at March 10, 2024 11:35 AM (MIKMs) 208
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 10, 2024 11:36 AM (Zz0t1) 209
I feel like LeBron James without the millions of dollars and rampant douchebaggery.
I bought one of TJM's books a while ago. I'm on Chapter 2........Will have to start over because I don't remember much of what I read. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 10, 2024 11:37 AM (Zz0t1) 210
No reading for fun this week. All policy, procedures and non-profit accounting manuals. A real snooze fest but someone has to do it.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2024 11:38 AM (WXNFJ) 211
Coffee absorption mechanism, Engage!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2024 11:38 AM (tkR6S) 212
I tip my hat to Nolte. He's usually a fairly consistent and enjoyable daily read.
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I've listened to Tracer of Lost Persons on an OTR channel that has both a Youtube and Bitchute presence. The book isn't great? I didn't know that one was from a book. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette **** Oh, no! Chambers is good, especially at evoking atmosphere; it's just that much of his work is, shall we say, very much of its time (particularly his romantic stories), but a few books are exceptional. And I didn't know that Tracer was a book either, until I looked up In Search of the Unknown and the dam broke... Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 10, 2024 11:39 AM (SPNTN) 214
Well, time to go act like I'm dealing with reality.
Thanks for the thread, Perfessor. Have a good one, gang. Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 10, 2024 11:40 AM (q3u5l) 215
Anyway, the Russian/Soviet Occult book is not so much a manual as a history of the incredible array of what look like whack-a-doo ideas scrambling around, having to do with Alchemy, Spiritualism, Cosmism, all kinds of nutty stuff (Sergei Eisenstein, the film director, was initiated into Rosicrucianism in the 1920s, and packed his movies with occult symbols).
I personally do not believe in ANY of this utter nonsense, but a whole lot of people, a terrifying number of them influential and powerful, absolutely did and do. One of the points of the book (not why I got it, I already knew this) is that a serious number of Bolsheviks were all about occult ideas, merging them with 'Scientism' to create a syncretic New Cosmology of Communism. It sounds nuts but it's quite factual. A startling number of Bolsheviks were some real crazies out to utterly destroy, then remake, the World in its entirety using a corrosive mishmash of occultism and pseudo-science. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:43 AM (43xH1) 216
I'm re-reading Starship Troopers and heartily endorse implementing public floggings and hanging people by the neck until dead, dead, dead. Or maybe I need more coffee.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 10, 2024 11:45 AM (Aoykm) 217
It would seem to me that if you believed that communism as a social structure would actually work in the real world, you could also believe a lot of weird sh..stuff too.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 10, 2024 11:48 AM (t/2Uw) 218
OT to OrangeEnt: That link to Townsends in Indiana has got me thinking I might buy one of their Deluxe Leather Wallets to keep in the car. The new wheels have a lock socket, and I don't want it rolling around in the console making noise. Wrapping it in a face towel is dumb; I use that to wipe fog off the windshield and water off the steering wheel when I climb in during a rain. $40 seems reasonable for that wallet.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 09:33 AM (omVj0) Put the "lock socket" in a small drawstring bag, and attach the strings to the jack handle in whatever cubbyhole the jack is stored. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2024 11:49 AM (tkR6S) 219
A startling number of Bolsheviks were some real crazies out to utterly destroy, then remake, the World in its entirety using a corrosive mishmash of occultism and pseudo-science.
Sounds right up our alley. Do you have a contact? Posted by: Disney / Marvel at March 10, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+) 220
it was 1979, Mars had a very sparse look, kind of bahaus, rock hudson was the head of the 3rd expedition,
Posted by: no 6 at March 10, 2024 11:33 AM (PXvVL) Maybe that's where AIDS came from. Posted by: BurtTC at March 10, 2024 11:50 AM (Bb376) 221
Sounds right up our alley. Do you have a contact?
Posted by: Disney / Marvel at March 10, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+) Yes. WWW.NIH.GOV Posted by: BurtTC at March 10, 2024 11:51 AM (Bb376) 222
Time I nipped off to handle some chores, including shaving.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 10, 2024 11:17 AM Hardwood, FTW! Posted by: Trigglypuff at March 10, 2024 11:52 AM (iOgGi) 223
'The Occult in Russian and Soviet Culture'
The real reason I got this slog of insanity is dealing with a project in which I'm supposed to be working on a book: the instigator of this project insists he is Orthodox Christian, but persistently reveals beliefs that have NOTHING to do with any form of Christianity of which I am aware. It's all ancient Monism, or some stew of ancient beliefs of the area he's from. It's all been sitting in his psyche this whole time and dealing with him insisting these obviously Pagan ideas *are* Christianity is incredibly difficult. I got this book to unpack what exactly is going on with this guy. I'm not amplifying, promoting, his beliefs as-is: they are flat-out pre-Christian Pagan. Thankfully he was back home a few weeks ago and our Church had it out with him, so I'll see what I can do now that's happened. If they okay it, it's out of my hands. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:52 AM (43xH1) 224
Finished 1st chapter of Triumph Forsaken catching up on history of Vietnam up to 1956, so far very informative
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Mars ain't a place to raise your kids, in fact it's cold as Hell
Posted by: Skip at March 10, 2024 11:54 AM (fwDg9) 226
'The Occult in Russian and Soviet Culture'
One of the crazy ideas the Bolsheviks spent a lot of time and resources on was some kind of beam or ray or electrical impulse device/mechanism that would plant beliefs directly into people's minds. Kind of like a smartphone with social media apps. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:55 AM (43xH1) 227
Kind of book adjacent; wife and I are watching The Travels of Jaimie McPheeters. the book was my Dad's favorite, and it is one of mine as well. I've read it at least a half dozen times. The show only sort of follows the story, but the cast and episodes are excellent. Dan O' Herlehy and Kurt Russell as Sardius and Jaimie are outstanding, and the girl playing Jenny was a dolly. Even has some Osmond brothers as Matt Kissel's kids.
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then when it hit the nose would 'fold' underneath the fuselage
- Another airliner accident yezterday. https://tinyurl.com/y9c5td8h Minor accident but still, that's three within a week. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 10, 2024 11:56 AM (FVME7) 229
'The Occult in Russian and Soviet Culture'
I knew this project was in serious trouble when I watched this guy wade out into the Pacific Ocean in Mexico, cross himself, and pray to the Sun. Posted by: LenNeal at March 10, 2024 11:58 AM (43xH1) 230
Pro tip: There are only three books in the EarthSea saga.
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I enjoyed The Malazan Book of The Fallen, although the middle two or three were a grind because of the abrupt changes in locations and characters. Some of the imagery in the Crippled God was amazing. I borrowed all of them from a friend, but I may buy my own and re-read.
Right now I just started Salvation by Peter F. Hamilton (read a bunch of his other stuff, like it very much), and in the middle of re-reading Stainless Steel Rat For President by Harry Harrison and occasionally reading interviews from The Stanley Kubrick Archives and dipping into The Shifting Realities of Philip K. Dick, ed. by Lawrence Sutin. I'm a mood reader, sometimes I get bored and shuffle around. Posted by: ragnarokpaperscissors at March 10, 2024 11:58 AM (sBGiW) 232
Still, I'm tempted to read one of those books. They sound pretty cool.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2024 10:11 AM (VwHCD) --- It's some of the most incredible world building you've ever seen. Although they are long, the pacing is excellent and the character development is top-notch. They are not hard reads, just long. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2024 11:58 AM (BpYfr) 233
Speaking of airlines . . .
These folks tried to smuggle goose intestines onto a plane by hiding them under rattlesnakes. I can't believe this is real life. https://tinyurl.com/bd62nzth - M*therf*cking goose intestines on a plane! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 10, 2024 11:59 AM (FVME7) 234
We haz a NOOD
Posted by: Skip at March 10, 2024 12:01 PM (fwDg9) 235
Haiti has completely collapsed, gangs have taken over the capital, and the US has evacuated its embassy. Now El Salvador's Bukele has offered to fix things.
https://tinyurl.com/2s3mm9mr - The Chicago way! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 10, 2024 12:02 PM (FVME7) 236
Saddest part of Sunday morning, again. Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 10, 2024 12:03 PM (0eaVi) 237
I finished book #3 in Nicholas Kotar's Raven Son Series. It was...okay. Maybe I'm just not cut out to read series. I like books that have some sort of conclusion, even if it's minor. I didn't really get that from this series so far, and it feels... unsatisfying. I can't decide if it feels like the series is one continuous story divided into 5 books or if it's more like when television season finales would leave a cliff hanger so you'd have to tune in to the next season. Either way, it's not for me, at least not at this time.
Besides, Miss Pym Disposes by Josephine Tey arrived in the mail this week. I love the way she writes. Her clarity, humor, understanding of human nature (without being cruel about it) make her a joy to read. Thank you, Perfessor for another awesome thread. Thank you all for your excellent recommendations. Posted by: KatieFloyd at March 10, 2024 12:07 PM (bQoqR) 238
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at March 10, 2024 11:39 AM (SPNTN)
You're right about the characterization. I'm just a couple of chapters in and the reading is *much* more fun than the Charlie Chan books. I'm glad other media went on to make Chan famous, because the books definitely don't sparkle. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 10, 2024 12:12 PM (XjtdB) 239
Finished "Moggies back in Space" (the second anthology from Raconteur Press about cats who work and live in space, usually alongside their humans, but not always!)
I loved Spearman Burke's story "Chosen One" where the one grunt (Gunnar Knox), the one guy who really isn't enamored of cats, is (of course) chosen by the ship's new cat. Let's just say that the cat either effects a profound change on Gunnar, or a part of Gunnar that was always there comes out more, and you'll love how that plays out. Ted Begley's "Voyage of the Porth Ia" is a wonderful future-casting of an old poem and riddle, presented for you in story form in a heartening display of people helping people. (I won't spoil it for you) A. Kristina Casasent's story "Cat Math" is a delightful tale of how a cat smuggled on board ends up being extremely useful in dire circumstances. Moze Howard's story "Cats! In! Space!" is a hilarious send-up of a famous science fiction show you'll recognize quickly, and the pillorying of same is very well done. I'd cite more examples from the ten stories but I'm out of space here. If you like felines, treat yourself to this anthology, you won't be sorry. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at March 10, 2024 12:58 PM (qPw5n) Posted by: mnw at March 10, 2024 12:59 PM (NLIak) 241
"Good morning everyone. I was hoping someone could recommend books about the history of the British in India."
Any particular part? They were there for hundreds of years and it's a big place, so there's tons of stuff available. Lots of literate Brits passed through India during the Raj, and hundreds of them wrote about their experiences. Also lots of modern Indians are writing about the period. Although the modern stuff written by Indians is generally, but not always, anti-Raj, I've also noticed in the past 20 years or so that India based printers have been reprinting 18th and 19th century British memoirs and histories of the British in India-I've bought some pulp-quality reprints, e.g., Robert Orme's "A History of Military Transactions of the British Nation in Indostan from the year 1745," (pub 1778, reprint ed 1985) with extensive fold-out maps, for about $25 including shipping from India. I've got a pretty extensive library, speciality rather than general, myself on the military and naval side of British India. If you can be more specific about your interests I might have some suggestions. Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 01:18 PM (cYrkj) Posted by: Weak Geek at March 10, 2024 01:33 PM (p/isN) 243
"Nonfiction books about the British Raj are hard to find."
Not true; as I say, I've a, mostly military and naval histories, library about British India running to hundreds of volumes. And, as another commenter mentioned, many are available as pdfs from the Internet Archive, the Heath Trust Digital Library or other sources. Although a few rare old books may not be available anymore, most are available as used copies, and many more as reprints. Helion books, for one example, publishes half a dozen or so books a year about India-mostly military or naval-Helion has new books due out shortly on the naval battles between Suffren and Hughes in the Indian Ocean in the 1780s and another on the armies and wars of the French East India Company between 1664-1770. Leonaur Press also has an extensive library of mostly reprints of military and naval histories of war in India. "You can get reprints of 19th century works, but they are often too narrow-focused." Sure, memoirs are generally narrowly focused on what the writer actually experienced. There are some 19th century histories of British India, but they are obviously incomplete and, to my taste, too general. cont below Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 02:44 PM (cYrkj) 244
India history cont...
A bit later (1920s on) we have the Cambridge History of India and later the New Cambridge History of India, but those are more a collection of articles on specific topics rather than narrative histories. 20th century narrative histories are also probably a bit more balanced than the 19th century stuff; British 19th century writers, fiction and non-fiction, are often pretty gungho on the Empire. For narrative general histories of British India, you could do much worse than Lawrence James's "RAJ, The Making and Unmaking of British India," also, I haven't read John Keay's "India, A History," but his book on the British East India Company was pretty good, and Jan Morris wrote an interesting trilogy on the British Empire that obviously included much on India. For a bit of Imperial flavor, through fiction, obviously Kipling is great. Cornwell's Sharpe served in India before Spain-IIRC, he fought at Assaye and, maybe, the siege of Seringapatam. Fraser also had his protagonist Harry Flashman in several adventures in India-IIRC, the First Afghan War and the First Sikh War. Fraser also included short bibliographies with his Flashman books. cont below... Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 03:06 PM (cYrkj) 245
India history cont
More modern books providing a bit of the flavor of the late Raj are Yeats-Brown's "Lives of a Bengal Lancer," and John Masters' fiction ("Night Runners of Bengal" and "The Ravi Lancers") and non- "Bugles and A Tiger," and "The Road Past Mandalay." Field Marshall William Slim also wrote some magazine articles about his service in the Indian Army (including one on assisting the civil authority, kind of Amritsar done right). Slim's articles have been recently reprinted in book form; I can provide titles and sources, including a link to an online copy of one of the articles, if anyone is interested. And more recently, Byron Farwell wrote a series of non-fiction books on British colonial wars and the British Army. cont below... Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 03:24 PM (cYrkj) 246
India history cont...
"Anything written after Indian independence is likely to have elements of 'white man BAD' in it, getting worse as you get closer to the present." Yep, and I'd place William Dalrymple's "The Anarchy" in that category. The extended title alone, gives a good indication that he brought some baggage with him to the task of writing the book: "The Anarchy: The East India Company, Corporate Violence, and the Pillage of an Empire." If you read "The Anarchy" you might want to also read another book for a bit of balance. Indian scholarship can also be a bit odd at times. I've seen references to oral traditions and the like without any identification of sources-sort of "everybody knows..." I've also seen fiction cited as a source for historical fact. For example, in addition to other flaws, in his "Military System of The Sikhs During the Period 1799 to 1849," Fauja Singh Bajwa cites a work of fiction, G.A. Hinty's (a 19th century author of YA adventure fiction; sort of a "We Were There for pretty much every war from the Punic Wars to the Boxer Rebellion), "Through the Sikh War" as if it were factual history rather than young adult fiction. Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 03:50 PM (cYrkj) 247
India history end...
Above I referred to two specific sources for pdf copies of old books about India. One was the Internet Archive, the other was the Hathi Trust Digital Library, helpfully "corrected" by spellcheck to "Heath Trust." Correcting spellcheck's errors slows down my typing somewhat, and I don't always get my stuff sufficiently proofread before posting. There are several other typos above, but the Hathi to Heath is, I believe, the only one that might mislead the reader. Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 03:56 PM (cYrkj) 248
Pope John 20th, thank you for your knowledgable recommendations for books on Indian history! If I may expand on one minor point the titles of the Flashman books are set (primarily or partly) in India are:
"Flashman" the First Afghan War (where Flashman begins his totally undeserved rise to the status of a Victorian military hero). "Flashman in the Great Game" (where Flashman is caught up in the horrors of the Indian Mutiny). "Flashman and the Mountain of Light" (where Flashy's talents for fabulation and fornication are tested in a diplomatic mission to the Sikh court that leads up to the First Sikh War). Posted by: John F. MacMichael at March 10, 2024 05:16 PM (jjfDF) 249
Pope John 20th, this thread obviously touched on a subject dear to you. Bully for you!
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 10, 2024 06:37 PM (p/isN) 250
Thanks Weak Geek.
Today we live in a golden age for the amateur historian, or for any other reader. When I was a young man, my library of available books was limited to what was on the shelves of my small midwestern town library (no interlibrary loan), my smaller school library, and what I could buy from the rack at the drugstore or on my infrequent trips to the big city. Nowadays, I have access to an incredible library-much of it available online. Pretty much any fiction in the public domain is available for download, as a pdf or kindle format, from faded page, Gutenberg, the Internet Archive or other online sources. Access to nonfiction is a bit more limited, but mostly because there is so much more of it. And through various academic providers I have access to doctoral theses and scholarly papers and articles of all sorts. And this is all, or almost all, free. On top of that, I have between 1500 and 2000 kindle books accessible through any kindle device, with an average cost of less than a buck each-there are lots of places to get kindle books for free or for $0.99. cont below... Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 07:00 PM (cYrkj) 251
golden age of books cont....
Then we come to new books in hard copy or kindle copy. Today we are in a golden of publishing (well maybe not for authors looking to get published).There are small publishers everywhere, publishing new material and reprinting older works in great numbers. Small publishers like NESFA and Haffner Press are reprinting science fiction and pulp mystery classics that are somewhat hard to find secondhand. And other specialty presses like Leonaur, Pencil and Sword, the Naval and Military Press and Helion are publishing reprints of older books as well as new books on subjects that would have been too obscure to merit publishing in the past. On top of all that, the ability to search for out-of-print books today using the internet is amazing. Back in the 1960s I read Raymond Chandler's Atlantic essay "The Simple Art of Murder." In it he listed about half a dozen mysteries he thought were the equal of any of the British classics. I immediately began searching for those books and at the dawn of today's internet, about 40 years later, I finally got the last of the books recommended by Chandler-"Mr. Bowling Buys a Newspaper" for those interested. cont below.. Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 07:17 PM (cYrkj) 252
Golden age of books end...
My search for the Chandler recommendations led me to dozens of bookstores throughout the US before I got them all. Today I could do the same search from my armchair, buy the book online if it was available, and have it shipped to me. Oh, there are still a few books I'm looking for and haven't found copies of yet, and a few more that I can find but the price is too high for my interest. In the main, however, if I want a book badly enough I can find and buy it. And more often, in the course of looking for one book, I find a few dozen others that interest me-including more than a few suggested here. Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 07:30 PM (cYrkj) 253
Mr. MacMichael, thanks for adding the titles of the relevant Fraser Flashman books. I confess that after awhile I grew a bit tired of Fraser's Flashman character and stopped reading them; on the other hand, I greatly enjoy his "Hollywood History of the World," his autobiography "Quartered Safe Out Here," and the McAuslan books.
"Flashman's Lady," and its bibliography, though, did inspire me to begin reading about James Brooke, the first White Raja of Sarawak-an interest that has led me to collect and read a dozen or more books about the Brookes, Sarawak, the Iban, the British pirate-hunting expeditions against the Moro pirates and Brooke's great (fictional) enemy, Sandokan. Posted by: Pope John 20th at March 10, 2024 07:43 PM (cYrkj) 254
Pope John 20th, I strongly agree with your recommendations of "Quartered Safe Out Here" and the McAuslan stories.
Two more of Fraser's books that I recommend are: "The Pyrates" a glorious comic romp in which Fraser indulges his love of pirates historical, fictional and cinematic. Leading characters are Long Ben Avery and Colonel (not Captain) Blood. And "Mr. American" a novel in which the title character, one Mark Franklin, comes out of the Wild West with a fortune in gold and finds his way to his ancestral village in Edwardian England. Flashman appears as a secondary character in this story. He is now in his 80s and recognizes Franklin as a fellow rogue. Posted by: John F. MacMichael at March 11, 2024 03:12 AM (jjfDF) Processing 0.04, elapsed 0.0443 seconds. |
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