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Japanese beetles!
They ate half of my plants in my garden boxes last year. How do you all cope with them? Posted by: Beverly at March 09, 2024 01:29 PM (Epeb0) 2
Wonder if Don got the snow we had yesterday. Not a lot but below freezing temps. My rhubarb seems to be okay. Up to 50 today so the snow is mostly gone.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 09, 2024 01:30 PM (yeEu9) 3
Second?
Posted by: Pat* at March 09, 2024 01:30 PM (EGzLc) 4
Well Morons I just got through with a visit from 2 of my brothers who drove up from Dublin, Ga. It was a good visit.
Posted by: vic at March 09, 2024 01:30 PM (A5THL) 5
That's great, Vic! And happy birthday!
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 09, 2024 01:32 PM (yeEu9) Posted by: KT at March 09, 2024 01:33 PM (rrtZS) 7
I bought five African violets before the move. It was rough on them and I lost two the first year here. I thought they were coming back but then were hit with what looked like root rot. I bought three pots with an unglazed sleeve. You put water in them and it wicks into the soil. I still lost one. One plant started growing like crazy and is about to bloom. The other had one tiny new leave and a couple of sickly ones. I almost threw it out. Then it started adding tiny new leaves. I think it will make it! The pots weren't cheap but seem to work really well
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 09, 2024 01:38 PM (yeEu9) 8
I got seeds off my amaryllis plant. Anyone planted these?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 09, 2024 01:40 PM (yeEu9) 9
It has been a lovely couple of days here, it got up into the high 40's yesterday and with clear blue skies (it just started raining today)
It was freezing in the morning though, so I went out to cover a few seedling plums I had grafted to try and keep them from freezing off. I have trouble grafting plums reliably so this is something I have to practice I guess. I went out for a walk day before yesterday with a friend and her dog, it was really the first nice day we have had so far, and in the leaf litter in the trees there were a good number of what we call "yellow racer" garter snakes. They were awfully pretty and shiny. I think they are the "valley garter snake" Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2024 01:42 PM (D7oie) 10
Good Afternoon Greenthumbs
Raining again, just looking to see if chives have popped up but not sure them or other grass weeds. Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 01:49 PM (fwDg9) 11
Wife found a tick at the table last week, probably brought it
Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 01:50 PM (fwDg9) 12
Anyone with an opinion on grow lights? Even with a southern exposure my seedlings aren't exactly going gangbusters. Looks like danger of frost in next 10 days in my corner of SE PA is next to zero. May be able to get some stuff outdoors earlier this year. Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 09, 2024 01:50 PM (RKVpM) 13
Daffodils are foot high but not blooming yet
Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 01:53 PM (fwDg9) 14
My version of "gardening" is to buy high-quality artificial plants and flowers. Pretties up the indoors, well enough.
And last week, I ran the lawnmower over the weeds that pass for "lawn" out in the yard. I've already had to mow twice, in February, in fact. Yay, Texas. Pity. Not even an "astroturf" lawn would hold up in the Texas Coastal Sun. It'd be cooked down to plastic dust in two, three years, tops. Meanwhile, complaining aside, I sure DO LIKE reading about y'all's exploits and seeing the pics. Just because I'd Brown Thumb everything to death, doesn't mean I can't admire y'all's talents and skills! Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at March 09, 2024 01:53 PM (e6UQI) 15
Pretty flower pictures, the Crepe Myrtle... not pretty yet.
Wild flowers are blooming here lupine and poppies in the yard, desert marigolds on south facing berms. I bought lupin and poppy seeds and didn't get them cast in time. Hope they store for next year. I think I'll go harvest some of the desert marigold seeds. I did that at the last house; but, didn't get any to start. They do self-spread; but, I want more. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 09, 2024 01:54 PM (jq8FP) 16
Anyone with an opinion on grow lights?
Posted by: Divide by Zero If you want to *really* know about grow lights search for people who grow marijuana, they know all about using lights for sprouting and growing. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 09, 2024 01:56 PM (jq8FP) 17
About beans:
The main green bean raised around here are the Blue Lakes, and since I used to work in the canneries, I hate them. I do like Kentucky Wonder pole beans, so I grow them and can them every year. I figure that pole bean trellises make the garden look better. Last summer I got some "roman beans" which are apparently also called "cranberry beans" that I decided to cast on the garden as a cover crop. They grew very well, and the green pods are as good as the string beans, and I made dilly beans with them. Apparently if I plant them in the spring I will get dried beans from them too, which are better to eat than dried pole beans. Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2024 01:57 PM (D7oie) 18
We grow a bush bean called Wyatt for our green beans. It grows well, the beans cook up nicely in soup or just water, and it makes a great pickle in a recipe we found called “dilly beans”. The pickling uses dill and garlic cloves, so it’s essentially a garlic dill green bean.
Posted by: Advo at March 09, 2024 02:08 PM (VHN21) 19
The mini Daffodils up in middle of yard have blooms
Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 02:09 PM (fwDg9) 20
Pity. Not even an "astroturf" lawn would hold up in the Texas Coastal Sun. It'd be cooked down to plastic dust in two, three years, tops.
Meanwhile, complaining aside, I sure DO LIKE reading about y'all's exploits and seeing the pics. Just because I'd Brown Thumb everything to death, doesn't mean I can't admire y'all's talents and skills! Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX I live about two hours down the coast from you, Jim. I know that from crossing the toll bridge on the south tip of the island more than a few times. Posted by: Advo at March 09, 2024 02:11 PM (VHN21) 21
Forsythia growing next to heat reflecting walls are blooming with that golden yellow color. And some of the cherries and tulip poplars are blossoming. Just so gorgeous when the full sun light hits them. It's like bits of gems showing here and there.
Posted by: JTB at March 09, 2024 02:12 PM (zudum) 22
I cut back my one Crape Myrtle a bit more severely. Below fence level so it'll bush out at a lower point. I don't want to see neighbors, whoever is gardening neked or not.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 02:12 PM (cOq4q) 23
You should make some "leather britches" out of the Kentucky Wonders. They're good! String them and let them dry. They are my favorite beans to grow.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 09, 2024 02:13 PM (yeEu9) 24
Thanks for leading off the post with a daffodil. One of my favorite flowers if not my absolute favorite. The many subtle variations in shape and color, not to mention the glorious scent, fascinate me.
Posted by: JTB at March 09, 2024 02:16 PM (zudum) 25
Advo. Yep, that's the San Luis Pass toll bridge.
San Luis Pass is one of the most dangerous places for fishermen or families at the beach. Hardly a year goes by, without some fisherman "wading" along the shore, being swept out to sea. The currents there are swift and strong, and the bottom changes contours, not by the day, but by the hour. Fish from the beach, or from a boat. But don't go wading there. That becomes a matter of "when", and not a matter of "if". Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at March 09, 2024 02:18 PM (e6UQI) 26
Spring is done in central florida. Went outside at o'dark thirty last night and it was hot and humid.
Above 80 today and it will stay that way until November. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 09, 2024 02:18 PM (cOq4q) 27
I should send that photo of the naked gardener to some other old, wrinkled guys I know. Good for a laugh. (And probably true.)
Posted by: JTB at March 09, 2024 02:19 PM (zudum) 28
My wife likes Leather Britches beans and I dry them for her. Her father's parents were Swiss, and apparently that is a thing there. He liked them as a winter dish.
I have a couple of jars left still. Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2024 02:20 PM (D7oie) 29
My grandparents - who were teens during the Depression - had a crop garden that was probably about an entire acre in size. I can't recall ever seeing beans growing there but they would drive down to Delaware to farm markets every summer and bring back bushel baskets of produce to make soups. I remember my 'job' one summer day was to shuck this enormous bag of green beans. Hours of work to fill up a good sized bowl. I think my grandfather gave me a couple of quarters for my effort. I love green beans while my wife hates them. She can not appreciate the amount of manual labor required for even a small bowl, I guess. Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 09, 2024 02:23 PM (RKVpM) 30
We have lots of something with tiny white flowers growing in the grass of the yard. Low growing and probably a weed but I don't care since they are pretty and don't distract the pup when she is doing her business. I have the same approach to dandelions. Spots of gold in the grass and good for tea. Better than a 'perfect' lawn and less trouble.
Posted by: JTB at March 09, 2024 02:25 PM (zudum) 31
In that Texas climate, I would go with Contender bean as an early bean, good for canning or pickling, too. It's sort of like Kentucky Wonder, but not stringy if picked at a reasonable stage. You can eat the beans inside as shellies or dried beans, too.
For lovely little skinny beans, check the catalogs for "heat tolerant". Some of these will tend to come on all at once because they are commercial varieties. For a bush Roma type, Romanette works if not too late. There are a couple of purple pole beans that will bear early. If you're lucky, you can plant a late crop in fall, but you have to choose your variety well. Posted by: KT at March 09, 2024 02:27 PM (rrtZS) 32
The pollen from the various blooming trees is just starting to show on the windshield. Now is the time I start taking a spoonful of locally produced honey every morning. I never had severe hay fever but the honey eliminates it and tastes good as well. Win-win situation.
Posted by: JTB at March 09, 2024 02:29 PM (zudum) 33
We have little white flowers, not unlike a daffodil plant, wife has always called them Johnny Jump ups, they always are the first flowers in late winter
Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 02:39 PM (fwDg9) 34
Gardeners and people who know things about landscaping:
If you recall, I was surprised with my builder installed beds redone with a stone edging i hate. I also hate the flowers and decorative grasses chosen, but despite having the blackest thumb of all, those jokers are still thriving. Is there a way to get moss to grow over the stone edging to make me hate it less? I am on the gulf coast of Alabama so lots of rain and lots of heat. Posted by: Piper at March 09, 2024 02:39 PM (ZdaMQ) 35
I never had severe hay fever but the honey eliminates it and tastes good as well. Win-win situation.
Posted by: JTB That's a good idea, the betterhalf and I have allergies and there is a local honey seller on a corner near us. I'll be chatting with him later today or tomorrow. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 09, 2024 02:40 PM (jq8FP) 36
those purple/black hellebores are amazing, haven't seen that color in a flower before. We have some white/pink ones, nice but not nearly that spectacular.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2024 02:41 PM (S6gqv) 37
Loved the naked gardener. Thanks.
Posted by: Ciampino - The dangler at March 09, 2024 02:42 PM (qfLjt) 38
I am on the gulf coast of Alabama so lots of rain and lots of heat.
Posted by: Piper I searched "grow moss on stone in Alabama", looking at the results there are lots of resources for you. Some on how to grow, some on moss growing 'clubs?'. One caught my eye "there are over 400 blah, blah, blah"... I think you'll find what you looking for Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 09, 2024 02:44 PM (jq8FP) 39
30 We have lots of something with tiny white flowers growing in the grass of the yard. Low growing and probably a weed but I don't care since they are pretty and don't distract the pup when she is doing her business. I have the same approach to dandelions. Spots of gold in the grass and good for tea. Better than a 'perfect' lawn and less trouble.
Posted by: JTB at March 09, 2024 02:25 PM (zudum) I can't know if mine are the same as yours, but in my yard those tiny white flowers come off of Onion Grass, which is a wildflower that gets into a lot of yards. Some call it a weed, but I like it - and if you pull the stem of one of the flowers and chew it, it really does taste just like green onion. (in the same family) Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2024 02:46 PM (S6gqv) 40
you looking for
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron Thank you. I feel like an idiot, I should have just googled. Hahah. Posted by: Piper at March 09, 2024 02:47 PM (ZdaMQ) 41
pollen from the various blooming
Saw a honeybee with his "saddlebags" bulging with pollen. Looked like a full dresser Harley. Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at March 09, 2024 02:49 PM (kt+Zf) 42
Lots of weeds here with various flowers... white, yellow, pink. Tulips poking up. Same with the Iris and Lilies. Otherwise the yard in general looks like crap... but it always does.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 09, 2024 02:50 PM (Q4IgG) 43
Thank you. I feel like an idiot, I should have just googled. Hahah. Posted by: Piper Don't feel like an idiot, you have had a bunch on your plate lately. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 09, 2024 02:56 PM (jq8FP) 44
quiet here, just the "white forsythia" is in bloom and the hellebores. daffodils and narcissus are almost opening!
I wisely put my tulip bulbs in containers this year, so I finally have tulips coming up! if they are out in the yard the deer were eating them, apparently. Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 09, 2024 03:00 PM (AcWfM) 45
Started tomato seeds yesterday. Ordered new kinds from tomato fest, all cherry sized. Petit Chocolate, black cherry, Tiny Tim, Texas Wild, and Gardener's Delight. I'll have about a dozen containers I can adjust as my backyard strip of sunlight moves all summer.
Posted by: skywch at March 09, 2024 03:02 PM (uqhmb) 46
Hiya
Posted by: JT at March 09, 2024 03:09 PM (T4tVD) 47
I've had my elephant ear plants out for a couple weeks as it's been pretty mild. BUT, it's suppose to get down below freezing tomorrow so I'll drag them back into the garage. They're in pots so it shouldn't be too hard of a task.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 09, 2024 03:20 PM (8Voqu) 48
I wisely put my tulip bulbs in containers this year, so I finally have tulips coming up! if they are out in the yard the deer were eating them, apparently. Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 09, 2024 03:00 PM I saw a video recently on X about how the introduction of wolves back into a national park was a net positive for the environment in nearly every way because they limited the deer population. The deer ate the small trees, the wildflowers, and caused natural wildlife which had avoided the area to return. They are a nightmare for me. I'll plant, they'll rip the planting out of the ground. 'Rat's with antlers' is what I call them. My state limits the ability of hunters to keep the population under control. It's been said that there are more deer in Pennsylvania now then when William Penn was alive. But Bambi, I guess. Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 09, 2024 03:24 PM (RKVpM) 49
I will plant tomato and broccoli seeds this weekend.
And pray the grass doesn't grow too quickly, need a new battery for the lawn tractor Posted by: JQ at March 09, 2024 03:32 PM (njWTi) 50
still raining here.
Posted by: JT at March 09, 2024 03:33 PM (T4tVD) 51
Forsythia is starting to bloom around here. I notice two main shades of yellow-- one more golden, one more lemon-y & bright.
Mom had the brighter yellow, and took cuttings & more cuttings over years, to create a forsythia hedge around the property. She'd bought a sack full of King Alfred daffodils on sale one year, which multiplied into many hundreds. The whole yard was lively each spring with all that yellow, and pink-flowering crabapples & many colors of tulips and bluebells and then roses.... Oh, how I miss her and that gorgeous garden! Posted by: JQ at March 09, 2024 03:42 PM (njWTi) Posted by: KT at March 09, 2024 03:49 PM (rrtZS) 53
Still burning 🔥 hete
Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2024 04:02 PM (fwDg9) Posted by: JT at March 09, 2024 04:07 PM (T4tVD) 55
The snow missed me. It was just cold, wet and dreary here.
The current generation of LED grow lights works very well for both seedlings and orchids. I use two different sorts, one with mostly red and blue diodes and one that's mostly white. Both seem to work equally well. I run them twelve hours a day during winter and fifteen hours during summer. Posted by: Don at March 09, 2024 04:09 PM (e4XTG) 56
The daffys are out in full force. Last year it was February; we had a warm spell that triggered them.
I'm happy to report that a 10" flower stalk has appeared on one of my orchids. They really like the bathroom, which has windows in the corner of the tub - one window faces east and the other faces north. Again, the key is ignoring them. They always seem to bloom if I ignore them. Posted by: Butthead at March 09, 2024 04:47 PM (w6EFb) 57
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Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 09, 2024 04:48 PM (w6EFb) 58
They ate half of my plants in my garden boxes last year. How do you all cope with them?
Posted by: Beverly at March 09, 2024 01:29 PM (Epeb0) My uncle always picked them off and put them in a Mason jar half-full of kerosene. We just picked them off, or sprayed if there was a serious infestation. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 09, 2024 04:58 PM (w6EFb) 59
I got seeds off my amaryllis plant. Anyone planted these?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 09, 2024 01:40 PM (yeEu9) I got seeds 4 years ago but didn't plant them because I had no room at the time. I don't know if they're still viable, but apparently once an amaryllis produces a seed pod, it will not flower again. There are Youtube vids on how to sow them. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 09, 2024 05:03 PM (w6EFb) 60
Oh, and happy birthday, Vic!
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 09, 2024 05:03 PM (w6EFb) 61
From Boise area: Lows 25-32 F, highs 34-45. Snow on Mon. and Tues. - still a bit on the ground.
We started seeds - poblano peppers, cucumbers, cantaloupe - tomatoes 'SunGold', 'Super Beefsteak', 'San Marzano', and 'Roma'. Half of each are in an outdoor mini greenhouse (in a cat litter pan, with a heating pad), half are indoors on the kitchen table (in a cat litter pan, with a grow light, which will get turned on when a sprout shows up). Broccolini (Aspabroc) seeds got started indoors because I ran out of room in the outdoor pan. I finally finished cutting up and freezing all the butternut squash from this past harvest (it was a great year for them). Today we cut down some bunchgrass for the trash, I topped it off with leaves, then we trimmed and shaped the old Golden Delicious tree. The crocus are getting a second wind and still look good. The hyacinths are showing buds but not flowering yet. Tulip leaves are 3 inches tall. No daffodils or lilies of the valley showing yet. As far as I know "Johnny Jump-Ups" are pansies with a flower about the size of a nickel, and mine are flowering in the paddock. Posted by: Pat* at March 09, 2024 05:28 PM (EGzLc) 62
My Lenten roses are blooming quite nicely, especially since I trimmed off last year's foliage.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at March 09, 2024 06:43 PM (Vf4Y7) 63
Is there a way to get moss to grow over the stone edging to make me hate it less? I am on the gulf coast of Alabama so lots of rain and lots of heat.
Posted by: Piper at March 09, 2024 02:39 PM (ZdaMQ) A friend of mine used to scrape some moss and run it through a blender with a little water, then paint it onto the rocks she wanted mossy. Worked like a charm (if the moisture and sunlight are right). Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 09, 2024 11:33 PM (w6EFb) 64
Started tomato seeds yesterday. Ordered new kinds from tomato fest, all cherry sized. Petit Chocolate, black cherry, Tiny Tim, Texas Wild, and Gardener's Delight. I'll have about a dozen containers I can adjust as my backyard strip of sunlight moves all summer.
Posted by: skywch at March 09, 2024 03:02 PM (uqhmb) I've grown Tiny Tims - they're delicious and prolific, not much more than a foot high and thus perfect for containers. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 09, 2024 11:36 PM (w6EFb) 65
They are a nightmare for me. I'll plant, they'll rip the planting out of the ground. 'Rat's with antlers' is what I call them. My state limits the ability of hunters to keep the population under control. It's been said that there are more deer in Pennsylvania now then when William Penn was alive. But Bambi, I guess.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 09, 2024 03:24 PM (RKVpM) Not until I began to garden in SC did I realize how awful they were. Electric fencing. my friend. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 09, 2024 11:38 PM (w6EFb) Processing 0.02, elapsed 0.0202 seconds. |
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