The Moral Equivalence Of The Left Is Structural, And Evil

Morality is a living, breathing, changing thing, and can be manipulated to accommodate the needs and desires of humanity. In fact, a moral imperative from one era can be flipped on its head as political needs change.

Sounds nuts, because it is.

Morality is a fixed point in our world, and to treat it as a malleable political or philosophical tool is to reject the very point of it. Whether one accepts the source of that morality as God, or one simply accepts its existence, morality provides a powerful structure with which to navigate the world, and the assumption of a flexible moral structure leads to boundless evil.

The Enlightenment may have accelerated our scientific inquiry and provided a structure for religious and intellectual freedom, but it also gave us a platform for moral relativism that perversely allows some to reject those freedoms in favor of a rigid orthodoxy of personal pleasure and the rejection of anything even remotely noble or edifying about the human condition.

By rejecting the concept of God or religion as the source of a moral code, and replaced it with the historically shaky idea that man is perfectible by his own devices, we are confronted with things like abortion as practically a sacrament of the new-age religion of personal entitlement and pleasure. The idea of a good greater than oneself is relegated to some quaint and naive view of man that has no place in a modern world. Thus the idea of love of country, of respect for tradition, for honor, for care for one's fellow man is an anachronism.

Just make sure that government is taking care of our access to personal pleasure, and it doesn't matter what else they do! 400 channels and endless entertainment on demand! So what if people who think differently are languishing in jail? So what if our country (what's that if not a cute and passé idea) is being overrun by looters and murderers intent upon taking what we have built? We can still get great Thai noodles delivered at 3:00am while we smoke high-quality legal marijuana! And that pesky fetus will be gone in a few days so we can get back to what feels good.

Just make sure that those horrible religious people who believe in antiquated ideas like human life is precious stay out of our neighborhoods! Arrest them! We need to get to the next protest against Israel...you know, that tiny country borne out of the ashes of the Holocaust that simply wants to live in peace! They are occupiers or colonists or genocidal...or whatever...our Middle Eastern Studies instructor told us that!

And let those illegals (what a mean word!) across the border. Give them food and clothing and money and plane tickets to everywhere. Well, except here. We don't really like them, so keep them in those horrid flyover states that don't even know how to make pour-over coffee! That silly talk about American Exceptionalism is so boring!

Sure, I am making fun of the silliness of the intellectually flaccid soft left. But they are the useful idiots of the committed left that has been working assiduously for 100 years to undermine the foundations of America, and they are doing a great job.

Maybe it's time to return to those supposedly dated concepts of Duty, Honor, Country. They worked for a very long time, and while our technological society is amazingly advanced, have we not regressed in other, more important things?

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:01 PM (8sMut)

2 Duty, honor, country you say?

Posted by: Douglas MacArthur at March 03, 2024 12:02 PM (8sMut)

3 Hiya CBD !

Nice rant !

Posted by: JT at March 03, 2024 12:02 PM (T4tVD)

4 Systemic, too.

Posted by: BignJames at March 03, 2024 12:05 PM (AwYPR)

5 There is no morality in the Left except for pursuit of power because they need power to perfect people. The Left learns zero from history and dismiss the failure of the Second World with lots of excuses, and if we try it (insert place name here) with (insert names here), IT WILL WORK!

And it must be remembered that the Left sees human nature as a disease that must be cured.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:05 PM (8sMut)

6 Nice rant !

Posted by: JT at March 03, 2024 12:02 PM (T4tVD)

You read it?

Wait a second...you can't be JT!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 12:06 PM (gSZYf)

7 'Maybe it's time to return to those supposedly dated concepts of Duty, Honor, Country.'

Oh. I completely agree. We'll have to fight the leftists first, however. They can't have anyone near them with those values.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 03, 2024 12:06 PM (roH4R)

8 Reading the first paragraph I'm thinking 'no way' and then get to the rest of the rant and see that CBD is making a strong case for why morality is not a changing thing.

Of course humanity has a great ability to rationalize why it is ok do something that is morally wrong and history shows the long track record of civilizations and leaders doing this.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 03, 2024 12:07 PM (3cGpq)

9 Excuse my lateness, I was cleaning plumbing parts

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 12:08 PM (fwDg9)

10 Guess these folks don't realize they're "settlers".

https://tinyurl.com/35e6fh2f

Posted by: BignJames at March 03, 2024 12:11 PM (AwYPR)

11 Morality is the only thing I can think of that is able to exert control over tne combined bane/blessing of humanity, that of free will.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 03, 2024 12:11 PM (KATBx)

12 Power, greed and revenge/hatred. The three legs of the leftist stool. They neither believe or care if their way works.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at March 03, 2024 12:13 PM (o5xMZ)

13 Well said CBD.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 12:14 PM (W/lyH)

14 Reminds me of a great essay that was linked on the HQ several years ago. The west used to be largely an honor based society. That was replaced by being a dignity based society according to the essay. I will say that honor was still considered a good thing.

Then the evil forces got the madness of crowds to adapt a victim based society; exalting victims instead of heroes and that has led to the current insanity. 'I was born the wrong gender' is a huge victim token.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 03, 2024 12:14 PM (3cGpq)

15 Our pastor put it this way in his sermon this morning…. Talking about King Saul and how he lived his life: He simply didn’t take God seriously and disaster was the result.

You could say the same thing about our society as a whole

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 03, 2024 12:14 PM (4Fb0A)

16 Guess these folks don't realize they're "settlers".

https://tinyurl.com/35e6fh2f
Posted by: BignJames
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They seem nice.

Posted by: olddog in mo at March 03, 2024 12:16 PM (ju2Fy)

17 I would make a change to that statement about what we need to return to.

Maybe it's time to return to those supposedly dated concepts of God, Duty, Honor, Count

Posted by: vic at March 03, 2024 12:18 PM (A5THL)

18 I remember a video where Carl Benjamin (aka Sargon of Akkad) was defending the spread of Western civilization by the British through colonialism. The main point was that, just as science and technology evolve over time, so too does culture and morality. Primitive societies just slaughtered their captured enemies, and later, they were often enslaved. Later still, they were often held for ransom, and today, they're usually held and provided for, and returned unharmed and without condition upon the end of hostilities.

How much of this moral and cultural progress is due to religious influence vs pragmatism is debatable, but we're certainly reaching a crossroads where cultural and moral changes may no longer be "good".

Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 03, 2024 12:18 PM (JCZqz)

19 This post hits on another of the 10 mental defects common in all Leftists.

Presentism. And of course they even bastardize their own mental defect because they pick and choose when to apply it depending on whether it fits their agenda.

Posted by: Burnt Umber at March 03, 2024 12:20 PM (MNhXM)

20 El Salvador is becoming awesome!

End Wokeness
@EndWokeness

BREAKING: President Bukele bans "every last trace" of gender ideology in public schools & universities in El Salvador

Education Minister Pineda says that he will implement this ban nationwide

Bukele says he wants public education in El Salvador to educate and revilalize civility, religion, and the family

https://tinyurl.com/4d4spftn

Posted by: redridinghood at March 03, 2024 12:22 PM (NpAcC)

21 20: El Salvador is becoming awesome because of THIS

Posted by: Clickbait Headline at March 03, 2024 12:24 PM (8sMut)

22 We have delinked morality from reality. A surgeon who can cut the healthy breasts off of a confused teenage girl is committing great evil but deludes himself that the money he/she is making comes from a theoretical good. The protestor who supports the death cult known as Hamas ignores the killing of babies and rape of women by Hamas because of an asinine academic theory of intersectionality and the even dumber idea that everyone can be labeled as either the oppressed or the oppressor. Reality is the actions of individuals. Morality is the culturally shared sense of the rightness or wrongness of those actions.

Posted by: iandeal at March 03, 2024 12:26 PM (zR9mW)

23 Bukele says he wants public education in El Salvador to educate and revilalize civility, religion, and the family

https://tinyurl.com/4d4spftn

Posted by: redridinghood at March 03, 2024 12:22 PM (NpAcC)

Argentina too! Is there a renaissance to our south?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 12:27 PM (gSZYf)

24 Posted by: Clickbait Headline at March 03, 2024 12:24 PM (8sMut)
*****
Did you even watch the video? The president of El Salvador is destroying leftist ideologies.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 03, 2024 12:28 PM (NpAcC)

25
Guess these folks don't realize they're "settlers".

https://tinyurl.com/35e6fh2f
Posted by: BignJames
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Five thousand quatloos that the newcomers will have to be destroyed.
Posted by: Provider #2

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 03, 2024 12:28 PM (63Dwl)

26 Again watching or listening to historical videos on YouTube and reading comments here and got the Nikki H8s DJT commercial

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 12:30 PM (fwDg9)

27
Did you even watch the video? The president of El Salvador is destroying leftist ideologies.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 03, 2024 12:28 PM (NpAcC)

After he sends his criminals to El Norte

Posted by: GOP sux at March 03, 2024 12:30 PM (Zzbjj)

28 Posted by: Clickbait Headline at March 03, 2024 12:24 PM (8sMut)
*****
Did you even watch the video? The president of El Salvador is destroying leftist ideologies.

I think that was a joke saying how your post would've been worded as the title of a YouTube video.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:30 PM (FD5dr)

29 Excuse my lateness, I was cleaning plumbing parts
Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 12:08 PM (fwDg9)

Is that what you youngin's are calling it these days?

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at March 03, 2024 12:31 PM (iODuv)

30 After he sends his criminals to El Norte

Nope, he's locking them all up and not letting them out. This is enraging the left, of course.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:31 PM (FD5dr)

31 And I cannot stress this enough. The Left does, in fact, believe in God; just not God the way YOU know him to be. For the Left, God is the State. If they need a Pope and College of Cardinals, just subsititute the President, a SCOTUS and Congress. Freedom of conscience is a concept that makes the Left sick.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:32 PM (8sMut)

32 Argentina too! Is there a renaissance to our south?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 12:27 PM (gSZYf)
******
I pray that this is only the beginning of a worldwide governance that wipes out evil.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 03, 2024 12:32 PM (NpAcC)

33 Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at March 03, 2024 12:31 PM

No preparing for my 1WP

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 12:33 PM (fwDg9)

34 Of course humanity has a great ability to rationalize why it is ok do something that is morally wrong and history shows the long track record of civilizations and leaders doing this.

They're the Ten Commandments, not the ten suggestions, you know, if you feel like it.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2024 12:33 PM (CsUN+)

35 And I cannot stress this enough. The Left does, in fact, believe in God; just not God the way YOU know him to be. For the Left, God is the State.

Close: for the left, power is God. The state is usually how they make that happen, but it doesn't have to be. Karening people to death at an HOA works too.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:33 PM (FD5dr)

36 30 After he sends his criminals to El Norte

Nope, he's locking them all up and not letting them out. This is enraging the left, of course.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:31 PM (FD5dr)

Even funnier if El Salvador took off economically, or hell, became a favorable resort destination because the government's revelation that "Hey, if we lock up our criminals..."

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:33 PM (8sMut)

37 They're the Ten Commandments, not the ten suggestions, you know, if you feel like it.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2024 12:33 PM (CsUN+)

Not the Ten Life Hacks?

Posted by: Some kid born well after 1980 at March 03, 2024 12:34 PM (8sMut)

38 Even funnier if El Salvador took off economically, or hell, became a favorable resort destination because the government's revelation that "Hey, if we lock up our criminals..."

You can go to Mexico and take your chances with the cartels, or you can go to El Salvador and it's safer than major US cities. Hard decision for people, I'm sure.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:35 PM (FD5dr)

39 Then the evil forces got the madness of crowds to adapt a victim based society; exalting victims instead of heroes and that has led to the current insanity. 'I was born the wrong gender' is a huge victim token.
Posted by: PaleRider at March 03, 2024 12:14 PM (3cGpq)

Dignity based can be turned into "victim based" if you turn it on its head, and treat it as honor.

"I am dignified in my actions" is the ethos of a dignity based society where "I am honored by how others think of me" is an honor based system.

"You are keeping me down and refusing to allow me dignity" is using the language of dignity to enforce honor, and it is even more disruptive because it is an honor based system that can be enforced by people who have no intention of being honorable, just willing to impose behavior on others.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 03, 2024 12:36 PM (D7oie)

40 I'm sure this fellow in El Salvador is a swell guy and his plans to pull his country out of failed narco-state dysfunction sound good, but whenever I encounter one of the headlines I can't help but read it as President Bukkake and marvel at the world's first X rated government. Too much internet in my youth, I figure.

Posted by: CppThis at March 03, 2024 12:36 PM (PZvjL)

41 The moral code of the post-1917 left isn't malleable *at all*

That's because it's simple: The left is so overwhelmingly morally correct that what is morally correct is literally defined as "what the left wants, right now". That's it. That is their entire moral compass.

What is malleable for them is reality, as they reject the entire concept of objective reality. They believe that they are so right that reality as understood by each individual must give way to whatever their need of the moment is.

Posted by: somedood at March 03, 2024 12:36 PM (Wro9I)

42 Did you even watch the video? The president of El Salvador is destroying leftist ideologies.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 03, 2024 12:28 PM (NpAcC)

I saw a great video of President Bukele laying the smack down on some BBC hack. Good enough?

Posted by: Clickbait Headline at March 03, 2024 12:36 PM (8sMut)

43 One can only hope El Salvador can turn their situation around, Leftism is the normal in most countries

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 12:37 PM (fwDg9)

44
Even funnier if El Salvador took off economically, or hell, became a favorable resort destination because the government's revelation that "Hey, if we lock up our criminals..."
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

I'd hate to be around when/if they bust out.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 03, 2024 12:37 PM (63Dwl)

45 Posted by: GOP sux at March 03, 2024 12:30 PM (Zzbjj)

You misspelled "UN"

Try again.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 03, 2024 12:37 PM (D7oie)

46 Guess these folks don't realize they're "settlers".
https://tinyurl.com/35e6fh2f
Posted by: BignJames
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They seem nice.
Posted by: olddog in mo
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MECHA and related groups are among the most racist POSs out there. Them and pretty much every other group screaming 'racist' and pointing fingers.

Their attitudes on race are not the real problem. It's the endless lies about fabricated history justifying the threats of genocide of the 'other' with the intent of justifying mass murder and theft.
Not into the DoJ Division of Pre-Crime and Wrongthought...but when someone/somegroup makes clear signals on such future goals just maybe something should be done about it. Perhaps what the tourists of J6 are being forced to endure... we do conspiracy to overthrow the guvment with these groups, or they really believe the 'other' will just put their own heads on the chopping block.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 12:38 PM (cOq4q)

47 They believe that they are so right that reality as understood by each individual must give way to whatever their need of the moment is.

And that reality is whatever grants them the most power.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:38 PM (FD5dr)

48 The Bolsheviks have always want to liquidate the Kulaks

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2024 12:38 PM (RovqD)

49 You can go to Mexico and take your chances with the cartels, or you can go to El Salvador and it's safer than major US cities. Hard decision for people, I'm sure.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:35 PM (FD5dr)

well, not if you have MS-13 tats on your face.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 03, 2024 12:38 PM (D7oie)

50 "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."--John Adams

The left has been on a unending mission to destroy us as a moral people. Everything is relative. One COULD argue that without a higher power (i.e. God), there IS no morality, only that which we ourselves define, which is anything. Thus, you have the "moral" equality made between a culture that upholds individual freedoms and the right to life and liberty and those that feel that humans are fungible, interchangeable, and merely chattel to be used by their betters.

Or as the joke goes, if all cultures are equivalent, then cannibalism is just a matter of taste.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

51 Five thousand quatloos that the newcomers will have to be destroyed.
Posted by: Provider #2
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 03, 2024 12:28 PM (63Dwl)

Of?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:40 PM (8sMut)

52 Or as the joke goes, if all cultures are equivalent, then cannibalism is just a matter of taste.

CBD's Food Thread is going to be about sous vide long pig?

Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:40 PM (FD5dr)

53 49 You can go to Mexico and take your chances with the cartels, or you can go to El Salvador and it's safer than major US cities. Hard decision for people, I'm sure.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:35 PM (FD5dr)

well, not if you have MS-13 tats on your face.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 03, 2024 12:38 PM (D7oie)

El Salvador as it CURRENTLY is. Did anyone here thing the US would devolve from its founding principles so quickly to be a banana "republic" in so few years? It wasn't on my Bingo card in the year 2000...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

54 I saw a great video of President Bukele laying the smack down on some BBC hack. Good enough?
Posted by: Clickbait Headline at March 03, 2024 12:36 PM (8sMut)
*******
🙂

Posted by: redridinghood at March 03, 2024 12:42 PM (NpAcC)

55 "And that reality is whatever grants them the most power.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:38 PM (FD5dr)"

It's even worse than that. It's whatever reality grants each individual lefty the most power, clashing against the other moonbats, and whoever wins (up to and including via brute force) dictates what the reality is.

It's a bit ironic but they way the progs have crafted an ideology that is consistently inimical and united vs. all other ideologies - is to have the members engage in a constant epistemological thunderdome against each other. It's like tyrant that keeps subordinates in check by having them at each other's throats, without having to have the titular tyrant.

Posted by: somedood at March 03, 2024 12:42 PM (Wro9I)

56 Great rant, CBD. It reminds me of what pisses me off about the left mangling scripture to suit their carnal desires. They like to throw out how Jesus was not judgmental.

Right. Jesus said "Go, and sin no more. Or not. I DGAF."

Posted by: fly gal at March 03, 2024 12:43 PM (6CtMt)

57 41 The moral code of the post-1917 left isn't malleable *at all*

That's because it's simple: The left is so overwhelmingly morally correct that what is morally correct is literally defined as "what the left wants, right now". That's it. That is their entire moral compass.

What is malleable for them is reality, as they reject the entire concept of objective reality. They believe that they are so right that reality as understood by each individual must give way to whatever their need of the moment is.
Posted by: somedood at March 03, 2024 12:36 PM (Wro9I)

This also perfectly describes the French Revolution and why it collapsed back into absolute rule.

Posted by: CppThis at March 03, 2024 12:43 PM (PZvjL)

58 Morality is a fixed point in our world
Disagree, CBD. Morality is entirely dependent on your frame of reference. You and I feel like it should be fixed because we received it from religions that deny the power of other gods - and therefore our frame of reference is absolute.

But, those that worship other gods have other frames of reference. This does not make those other frames of reference equally valid or right. But it behooves us to understand this, because without noting the source of our frame of reference we cannot defend it.

"Moral relativism" is not bad simply because it blows with the wind, but because there is no tertium quid. It's founded in our minds and hearts, and that makes us the final arbiters of it. So, evil is simply "that with which we disagree at the moment." Or, worse, "that which makes us feel less than superior at the moment" - for that is unreasoning self-centeredness.

The important thing to understand is that Progressives are NOT hypocrites. They actually have a different moral reference than those raised in Christian (and Jewish) culture/religion*.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 12:43 PM (Fc2+y)

59 They're the Ten Commandments, not the ten suggestions, you know, if you feel like it.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2024 12:33 PM (CsUN+)

Not the Ten Life Hacks?
Posted by: Some kid born well after 1980 at March 03, 2024 12:34 PM (8sMut)

Not Good ideas?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 12:43 PM (W/lyH)

60 >>> After he sends his criminals to El Norte

Nope, he's locking them all up and not letting them out. This is enraging the left, of course.
Posted by: Ian S.

Given demeanor of the prisoners I wonder if the police had to 'wound' a few with 9mm to the kneecaps, elbows, gut... to get the others to fall in line.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 12:43 PM (cOq4q)

61 (* Religion is the actual source. But American culture became Christian (well, Protestant) culture, and even those who didn't profess the religion had learned the standard from the religion.)

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 12:43 PM (Fc2+y)

62 However, I think you are right.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 12:44 PM (Fc2+y)

63 52 Or as the joke goes, if all cultures are equivalent, then cannibalism is just a matter of taste.

CBD's Food Thread is going to be about sous vide long pig?

Posted by: Ian S. at March 03, 2024 12:40 PM (FD5dr)

"~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork is the fruit of the ~~sea~~ Earth. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, sauté it. There's, um, ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork kabobs, ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork creole, ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork and lemon ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork , coconut ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork , pepper ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork , ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork soup, ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork stew, ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork salad, ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork in potatoes, ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork burger, ~~Shrimp~~ Long Pork sandwich. That's, that's about it."--Bubba, cannibal, long-pork expert

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:44 PM (ynpvh)

64 Righteous, CBD.
Now, I am going to the range with DILIT so she can sharpen her mother lioness skills in the event the moral failings of our time threaten my yet unconceived grandchildren.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 12:45 PM (2hOms)

65 El Salvador as it CURRENTLY is. Did anyone here thing the US would devolve from its founding principles so quickly to be a banana "republic" in so few years? It wasn't on my Bingo card in the year 2000...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

What is it that Reagan said about freedom always being one generation away from extinction?

"(The Mexican government) has failed to establish any public system of education, although possessed of almost boundless resources, (the public domain,) and although it is an axiom in political science, that unless a people are educated and enlightened, it is idle to expect the continuance of civil liberty, or the capacity for self government." (TX Dec. of Ind., 1836)

Now, history will show it was folly to rely on a public system of education to educate and enlighten the people, as we see in our public schools today, but what have WE done outside of this to ensure freedom and civil liberty are continued as long as possible?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:47 PM (8sMut)

66 Sad news, everyone.

PJ Media
@PJMedia_com
CNN Appears on the Verge of an Epic Collapse
. . . .
The struggling network is now desperately trying to get out of its death spiral, and step one is to cut costs by axing the remaining big name talents who have extremely large salaries.

https://tinyurl.com/23ndhrz6

-
We'll always have MSNSDAP.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:47 PM (FVME7)

67 63: what about short pork?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:47 PM (8sMut)

68 The cops in NYC have protected us from a Final Fantasy weapon.

https://tinyurl.com/5n844zmy

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:47 PM (FVME7)

69 "El Salvador as it CURRENTLY is. Did anyone here thing the US would devolve from its founding principles so quickly to be a banana "republic" in so few years? It wasn't on my Bingo card in the year 2000...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:41 PM (ynpvh)"

It was on a lot of people's bingo cards by the mid-90's. Let's be honest here, Uncle Jimbo who was never quite right after coming back from 'Nam and liked runnnig around in the woods larping as a colonel with his drinking buddies was pretty much spot-on, while all of the "respectable" conservatives who spent decades circle jerking around pundits who turned out to be shills and sellouts were wrong.

Think about how much time people like VDH could have saved if they'd realized back then what was actually going on. Some people did and they were roundly mocked.

Posted by: somedood at March 03, 2024 12:47 PM (Wro9I)

70 64 Righteous, CBD.
Now, I am going to the range with DILIT so she can sharpen her mother lioness skills in the event the moral failings of our time threaten my yet unconceived grandchildren.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 12:45 PM (2hOms)

Took me a while...
Daughter-in-Law-in-training, e.g. fiance of son?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

71 66 Sad news, everyone.

PJ Media
@PJMedia_com
CNN Appears on the Verge of an Epic Collapse

I'm going to go mourn for approximately two minutes.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:48 PM (8sMut)

72 Reminds me of a great essay that was linked on the HQ several years ago. The west used to be largely an honor based society. That was replaced by being a dignity based society according to the essay. I will say that honor was still considered a good thing.
Then the evil forces got the madness of crowds to adapt a victim based society; exalting victims instead of heroes and that has led to the current insanity. 'I was born the wrong gender' is a huge victim token.
Posted by: PaleRider at March 03, 2024 12:14 PM (3cGpq)

I don't exactly agree with that. Pretty much all of Western society was Guilt Based, ie. an individual took responsibility for his/her own actions.

Guilt is the foundation of honor.

Most Asian and all Socialist/Communist/Leftist cultures are Shame Based, ie. the idea that people outside of you determine your responsibility for..well, anything.

In Asian society, that would be losing face or shaming your family. In our Leftist-run America, obeying the law, getting and keeping a good job, going to church, raising your children well and to be good citizens, makes you evil and deplorable because someone else doesn't have what you have, you are shamed.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 03, 2024 12:48 PM (nFnyb)

73 65
...
"(The Mexican government) has failed to establish any public system of education, although possessed of almost boundless resources, (the public domain,) and although it is an axiom in political science, that unless a people are educated and enlightened, it is idle to expect the continuance of civil liberty, or the capacity for self government." (TX Dec. of Ind., 1836)

Now, history will show it was folly to rely on a public system of education to educate and enlighten the people, as we see in our public schools today, but what have WE done outside of this to ensure freedom and civil liberty are continued as long as possible?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:47 PM (8sMut)

It's always the catch; corruption is antithetical to morality, but is always with us as we humans are prone to it and every other vice under the sun (an not under the sun). Mexico is KNOWN for its corruption. We are just starting to see some of the depth of US corruption.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

74 The main point was that, just as science and technology evolve over time, so too does culture and morality.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 03, 2024 12:18 PM (JCZqz)

Nope. Sin has been sin since the beginning of time. Morality didn't evolve. What happened was the folks following what we consider to be morals (because we were raised in a Christian society) grew and became dominant.

Where our problem has arisen is when people who desired to follow their own hearts managed to convince enough folks that "evolution" of things like morals was possible, and they started twisting them subtly to direct people away from correct morals into another frame of reference.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 12:50 PM (Fc2+y)

75 "The important thing to understand is that Progressives are NOT hypocrites. They actually have a different moral reference than those raised in Christian (and Jewish) culture/religion*.
Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 12:43 PM (Fc2+y)"

^ That.

When the moral compass is steered only by "what grants me power, because I'm so right that right is literally defined by what I want right now", hypocrisy as a concept doesn't even exist. For the left, they believe with every fiber of their being that they are by definition incapable of hypocrisy.

Posted by: somedood at March 03, 2024 12:50 PM (Wro9I)

76 67 63: what about short pork?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:47 PM (8sMut)

Not as much meat. Nobody wants to sous vide Tattoo.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

77 CNN could have charted its own course as the less politics obsessed network, more 'fluff' and pop-culture crap maybe but covering legitimate stories and less wedded to the fickle tastes of the echo chamber. And for a little while in the early 2010s it looked like they just might do it. But then they got TDS and let people like that Stelter guy steer them right into the ditch. GG CNN, ya did it to yerself.

Posted by: CppThis at March 03, 2024 12:50 PM (PZvjL)

78 And now, fresh from the oven . . .

The Last Word
@TheLastWord
Lt. Col. @AVindman: Threat of Trump undoing American democracy ‘very real’

The Hill
@thehill
Retired Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman suggested that President Trump has "every intention" to undo American democracy if reelected.

"If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)

79 CNN is collapsing.
And always will be.

Have they found the plane yet?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 03, 2024 12:51 PM (NBVIP)

80 PJ Media
@PJMedia_com
CNN Appears on the Verge of an Epic Collapse
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Oh, no!

Anyway...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 12:52 PM (DeFcY)

81 Righteous, CBD.
Now, I am going to the range with DILIT so she can sharpen her mother lioness skills in the event the moral failings of our time threaten my yet unconceived grandchildren.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 12:45 PM (2hOms)

Took me a while...
Daughter-in-Law-in-training, e.g. fiance of son?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:48 PM (ynpvh)
***

Yeah. Took me a minute too.
I'm gonna use that phrase in the future, suitably adjusted for the grands.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 12:52 PM (W/lyH)

82 Week or two ago read article crime in Central or South America was down as the crime gangs have moved here

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 12:53 PM (fwDg9)

83 71 66 Sad news, everyone.

PJ Media
@PJMedia_com
CNN Appears on the Verge of an Epic Collapse

I'm going to go mourn for approximately two minutes.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:48 PM (8sMut)

You have to mourn like the Palis; through candy and ululate.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:53 PM (ynpvh)

84 through = throw. Damnit, fingers!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:53 PM (ynpvh)

85 Media
@PJMedia_com
CNN Appears on the Verge of an Epic Collapse

They need to rehire Tater and Lemon right now.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 12:54 PM (xcrUy)

86 72
...
Posted by: naturalfake at March 03, 2024 12:48 PM (nFnyb)

Wanna see some of the differences?
Western culture: get in a line
Eastern culture: scrum instead of a line

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

87 Bingo, Jim.
Now, we may actually be missing the ring thing as yet (Junior assures me it’s coming). But she has been living with us for two years and we are fully on board.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 12:55 PM (2hOms)

88 The Hill
@thehill
Retired Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman suggested that President Trump has "every intention" to undo American democracy if reelected.

"If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

Let's hope they get it halfway right this time.

Maybe Trump will get it right and deputize the entire 75th Ranger Regiment (and logisitcs tale) as US Marshals and send them to round up his perceived 'insurrectionists'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 12:55 PM (cOq4q)

89 75 "The important thing to understand is that Progressives are NOT hypocrites. They actually have a different moral reference than those raised in Christian (and Jewish) culture/religion*.
Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 12:43 PM (Fc2+y)"

^ That.

When the moral compass is steered only by "what grants me power, because I'm so right that right is literally defined by what I want right now", hypocrisy as a concept doesn't even exist. For the left, they believe with every fiber of their being that they are by definition incapable of hypocrisy.

Posted by: somedood at March 03, 2024 12:50 PM (Wro9I)

That's not morality, per say, but amorality with rigid rules for the others.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

90 83 You have to mourn like the Palis; through candy and ululate.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:53 PM (ynpvh)

Is randomly shooting my AK-47 in the air okay, or...?

Posted by: CppThis at March 03, 2024 12:56 PM (PZvjL)

91 Joe Scarborough
@JoeNBC
“Despite his age, Joe Biden is almost certainly the strongest possible candidate Democrats can field against Donald Trump in 2024.”

-
Democrats are a morally bankrupt party.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:56 PM (FVME7)

92
"If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.

Stop!

You don't need to convince me. I already decided to vote for Trump.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 03, 2024 12:56 PM (nFnyb)

93 Joe Scarborough
@JoeNBC
“Despite his age, Joe Biden is almost certainly the strongest possible candidate Democrats can field against Donald Trump in 2024.”

The world already knows you're retarded and morally worthless, Joe.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (xcrUy)

94 92
"If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.

Stop!

You don't need to convince me. I already decided to vote for Trump.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 03, 2024 12:56 PM (nFnyb)

you can vote for a dictator or the plain tater; you decide.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (ynpvh)

95 The Hill
@thehill
Retired Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman suggested that President Trump has "every intention" to undo American democracy if reelected.

"If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)
***

As most of us here know, Vindman is an idiot, and too stupid to realize the left used him for their purposes and then shit-canned him. He thinks he's still relevant.
Fool.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (W/lyH)

96 Unlike that idiot Blackstone, I would rather hang 10 innocent men to make sure I got the 1 that was guilty.

A Man Can Dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (R/m4+)

97 Where our problem has arisen is when people who desired to follow their own hearts managed to convince enough folks that "evolution" of things like morals was possible, and they started twisting them subtly to direct people away from correct morals into another frame of reference.
Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 12:50 PM (Fc2+y)

So, it's important that man rules God and manipulates his words and laws so they comport with his desires, rather than God rule man? Seems the case.

Posted by: GOP sux at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (Zzbjj)

98 The world already knows you're retarded and morally worthless, Joe.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (xcrUy)
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Talks like a fag, too.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (DeFcY)

99 Most Asian and all Socialist/Communist/Leftist cultures are Shame Based, ie. the idea that people outside of you determine your responsibility for..well, anything.
In Asian society, that would be losing face or shaming your family.
+++
I'm so old I can remember a time in this country when people would do without and even go hungry because they were ashamed to accept charity.
Those days are long gone.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (dr4Q1)

100 91 Joe Scarborough
@JoeNBC
“Despite his age, Joe Biden is almost certainly the strongest possible candidate Democrats can field against Donald Trump in 2024.”
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Democrats are a morally bankrupt party.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:56 PM (FVME7)

the great irony is that his statement is true.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (q3gwH)

101 "If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.

Stop!

You don't need to convince me. I already decided to vote for Trump.
Posted by: naturalfake

Classic comeback.
Fortunately nobody talks politics at the shop, but will have to use it if anybody wants to go there.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 12:59 PM (cOq4q)

102 If a guy telling me that Trump will destroy democracy is also saying that democracy must be preserved in another country by suspending elections and banning opposition parties, classical logic would suggest that Trump will therefore hold elections and not ban opposition parties. Sounds like a good deal to me.

Posted by: CppThis at March 03, 2024 12:59 PM (PZvjL)

103 93 Joe Scarborough
@JoeNBC
“Despite his age, Joe Biden is almost certainly the strongest possible candidate Democrats can field against Donald Trump in 2024.”

The world already knows you're retarded and morally worthless, Joe.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (xcrUy)

Zombie LBJ
Zombie Rosalind Carter
Zombie Geraldine Ferrarro
a tree stump
a broken rock
a cracked brick

Yeah, lots of candidates better than Joey.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

104 Hope the Communist News Network goes down in flames in a fire sale.

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 01:00 PM (fwDg9)

105 95 The Hill
@thehill
Retired Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman suggested that President Trump has "every intention" to undo American democracy if reelected.

"If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)
***

As most of us here know, Vindman is an idiot, and too stupid to realize the left used him for their purposes and then shit-canned him. He thinks he's still relevant.
Fool.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (W/lyH)

I dunno; he has Ukrainian connections. May explain a lot.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:00 PM (ynpvh)

106 “Despite his age, Joe Biden is almost certainly the strongest possible candidate Democrats can field against Donald Trump in 2024.”

That's quite an indictment of the Democrat party.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at March 03, 2024 01:01 PM (qUkBO)

107 "We've secretly replaced Joey with a baked Potato. Let's see if anybody knows the difference"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:01 PM (ynpvh)

108 I dunno; he has Ukrainian connections. May explain a lot.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:00 PM (ynpvh)
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Want to bet that at home he cosplays as a Ukrainian field marshal?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:02 PM (DeFcY)

109 If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.

I want to see the evidence that Trump said that.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 01:02 PM (xcrUy)

110 108 I dunno; he has Ukrainian connections. May explain a lot.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:00 PM (ynpvh)
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Want to bet that at home he cosplays as a Ukrainian field marshal?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:02 PM (DeFcY)

That would be his boyfriend. He's the bitch in the relationship, into getting teased with bearclaws.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

111 Town I lived nearest was neat, tidy and very low crime. How did that happen?
That's what we do.
We don't do that.
And it was strictly enforced and reinforced by the majority of townspeople.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (0nHUB)

112 How many of you are rural? That would explain a lot.

Posted by: My name is Sid and I like to gobble dog poop at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (BPtic)

113 I want to see the evidence that Trump said that.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 01:02 PM (xcrUy)
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I think he joked that he'd like to be dictator for a day.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (DeFcY)

114 43 One can only hope El Salvador can turn their situation around, Leftism is the normal in most countries
Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 12:37 PM (fwDg9)

El Salvador under Bukele HAS turned it's situation around; they are now by far the safest country in Central America. They did it by putting nearly 2% of the country's population in a new series of high capacity prisons. Also El Salvador just banned any gender based nonsense.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (q3gwH)

115 111 Town I lived nearest was neat, tidy and very low crime. How did that happen?
That's what we do.
We don't do that.
And it was strictly enforced and reinforced by the majority of townspeople.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (0nHUB)

And probably a non-Soros DA.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

116 "If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)

The Colonel is right. Don't you guys remember when he suspended all elections? When he declared in a speech to the American people, "My word is the law"? That one occasion when he dissolved Congress and had Congresscritters arrested left right and center?

Oh, damn, I don't either. Never mind.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 01:04 PM (8sMut)

117 >@JoeNBC
“Despite his age, Joe Biden is almost certainly the strongest possible candidate Democrats can field against Donald Trump in 2024.”

---

I think it's safe to ignore what Scarborough has to say

Posted by: Don Black- came in 2nd in the sales contest at March 03, 2024 01:04 PM (oCjPU)

118 116 "If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)

The Colonel is right. Don't you guys remember when he suspended all elections? When he declared in a speech to the American people, "My word is the law"? That one occasion when he dissolved Congress and had Congresscritters arrested left right and center?

Oh, damn, I don't either. Never mind.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 01:04 PM (8sMut)

The Dread Presidency[TM] was something.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

119 If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.

I want to see the evidence that Trump said that.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 01:02 PM (xcrUy)

During an interview he jocklary said in answer to a question "would he be a dictator?": he said only for one day. These left assholes would not know a joke if it spit in their eye.....MOrons

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2024 01:04 PM (PQ4m2)

120 Evil is alway evil.

Isaiah 5:20

[20] Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter!

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at March 03, 2024 01:05 PM (gxokI)

121 Strip Vindman of his right to donuts.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 01:05 PM (xcrUy)

122 I'm so old I can remember a time in this country when people would do without and even go hungry because they were ashamed to accept charity.
Those days are long gone.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (dr4Q1)

Years ago a radio DJ had a contest that the 10th caller into his show would get two Phree tickets but he stopped there. A lady called as the 10th caller and the DJ axed her did she know what the tickets were for? She said she had no idea. The DJ told her she called because she heard the majik word "Phree". Hilarious.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 03, 2024 01:05 PM (R/m4+)

123 117 >@JoeNBC
“Despite his age, Joe Biden is almost certainly the strongest possible candidate Democrats can field against Donald Trump in 2024.”
---

I think it's safe to ignore what Scarborough has to say
Posted by: Don Black- came in 2nd in the sales contest at March 03, 2024 01:04 PM (oCjPU)

His intern certainly hasn't said anything, not that she can.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:05 PM (ynpvh)

124 Aren't the Vindmans in Ukraine lending their vast military experience in the righteous battle against Putin and for the Nuland biolabs, child trafficking, and globohoma agenda? Put up or shut up, fatass!

Posted by: General Nuisance at March 03, 2024 01:06 PM (V5BDR)

125 That would be his boyfriend. He's the bitch in the relationship, into getting teased with bearclaws.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

That's not a bear claw, THIS is a bear claw!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z1fcgX8QLU

Posted by: naturalfake at March 03, 2024 01:07 PM (nFnyb)

126 122 I'm so old I can remember a time in this country when people would do without and even go hungry because they were ashamed to accept charity.
Those days are long gone.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (dr4Q1)

Years ago a radio DJ had a contest that the 10th caller into his show would get two Phree tickets but he stopped there. A lady called as the 10th caller and the DJ axed her did she know what the tickets were for? She said she had no idea. The DJ told her she called because she heard the majik word "Phree". Hilarious.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 03, 2024 01:05 PM (R/m4+)

Free traffic tickets?
Free garbage?
One could have lots of fun and mischief.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:07 PM (ynpvh)

127 Just saw on American Thinker article this morning a small town in Chester County has been hit by a illegal crime gang stealing 10s of thousands with at retail stores, one was deported and was back a few weeks later.

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 01:07 PM (fwDg9)

128 Strip Vindman of his right to donuts.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 01:05 PM (xcrUy)
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Hmmm. I'll have to get my copy to be sure, but I think the Constitution is silent on the matter of donuts.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:07 PM (DeFcY)

129 Ex-Federal Prosecutor Complains About How First Amendment Makes It Harder To Regulate Speech

A left-wing legal analyst claimed this week that the First Amendment makes the U.S. “vulnerable” and makes it hard for Democrats to be able to “regulate speech” without being accused of censorship.

The Friday remarks from former federal prosecutor Barbara McQuade on MNSBC came while she was discussing a book that she wrote about “disinformation.”

https://tinyurl.com/5n729pxb

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A book on disinformation, huh? Doesn't say whether she was pro or con.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 01:09 PM (FVME7)

130
Rupaul "civil war is coming". It buys a 60,000 acre ranch in eastern Wyoming.

Posted by: four seasons at March 03, 2024 01:09 PM (PisyI)

131 Hmmm. I'll have to get my copy to be sure, but I think the Constitution is silent on the matter of donuts.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:07 PM (DeFcY)

It's in the 14th Amendment where everything else is.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 01:09 PM (8sMut)

132 128 Strip Vindman of his right to donuts.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 03, 2024 01:05 PM (xcrUy)
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Hmmm. I'll have to get my copy to be sure, but I think the Constitution is silent on the matter of donuts.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:07 PM (DeFcY)

It's in the 9th and 10th amendments...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

133 What is it that Reagan said about freedom always being one generation away from extinction?
...
but what have WE done outside of this to ensure freedom and civil liberty are continued as long as possible?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 12:47 PM (8sMut)

It was said as early as Deuteronomy (6:7-9):
You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

If you value it, you'll pass it on. And only if you pass it on will it remain valued.

(Also, great hash)

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:09 PM (Fc2+y)

134 116 "If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:51 PM (FVME7)

We already have that it's called the Biden administration

Posted by: It's me donna at March 03, 2024 01:09 PM (Akjoo)

135 Posted by: Florida Peasant at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (dr4Q1)

Charity is a wonderful thing, if it a last resort, temporary, and designed to improve the lot of the recipient. Permanent charity does not work that way.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 01:10 PM (gSZYf)

136 >>> "If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, (FVME7)
***

It's honest projection from the left. This will be our next Democrat president.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 03, 2024 01:10 PM (0nHUB)

137 133
...
Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:09 PM (Fc2+y)

Maybe Vindman needs them NAILED to his forehead.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

138 129 Ex-Federal Prosecutor Complains About How First Amendment Makes It Harder To Regulate Speech

Congratulations, THAT IS THE POINT.

More importantly, what law school did this idiot go to?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 01:10 PM (8sMut)

139 *Yeah, lots of candidates better than Joey.*

Is this about me?

Posted by: Marianne Williamson at March 03, 2024 01:10 PM (NBVIP)

140 86 72
...
Posted by: naturalfake at March 03, 2024 12:48 PM (nFnyb)

Wanna see some of the differences?
Western culture: get in a line
Eastern culture: scrum instead of a line

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:54 PM (ynpvh)
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You left out Africa.

Posted by: Ciampino - What's a queue? at March 03, 2024 01:11 PM (qfLjt)

141 I pray that this is only the beginning of a worldwide governance that wipes out evil.

I read the book. I don't think that's how it goes.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2024 01:12 PM (sNc8Y)

142 135 Posted by: Florida Peasant at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (dr4Q1)

Charity is a wonderful thing, if it a last resort, temporary, and designed to improve the lot of the recipient. Permanent charity does not work that way.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 01:10 PM (gSZYf)

If someone is hungry, I'll get them some food. If they're cold, I'll get them a blanket/socks. I won't give money. Many/most of the panhandlers are in the service of others making them do it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

143 One thing that bugs the shite out of me is when people make these ridiculous hyperbolic statements, and they never get called on them.
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'put y'all back in chains'
'will destroy democracy'
'will be a dictator'

One reason I hate politicians and 'officials' with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns

Posted by: Don Black at March 03, 2024 01:12 PM (oCjPU)

144 The Colonel is right. Don't you guys remember when he suspended all elections? When he declared in a speech to the American people, "My word is the law"? That one occasion when he dissolved Congress and had Congresscritters arrested left right and center?

Oh, damn, I don't either. Never mind.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 01:04 PM (8sMut)

Wrong president. He was think Zelensky. His buddy.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 01:12 PM (W/lyH)

145 Church of England Slammed for Posting a Job for Anti-racist Office to “Deconstruct Whiteness”

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Well, this is Bassackwards World.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 01:12 PM (FVME7)

146 140 86 72
...
Posted by: naturalfake at March 03, 2024 12:48 PM (nFnyb)

Wanna see some of the differences?
Western culture: get in a line
Eastern culture: scrum instead of a line

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:54 PM (ynpvh)
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You left out Africa.

Posted by: Ciampino - What's a queue? at March 03, 2024 01:11 PM (qfLjt)

Tutsi rolls.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

147 111 Town I lived nearest was neat, tidy and very low crime. How did that happen?
That's what we do.
We don't do that.
And it was strictly enforced and reinforced by the majority of townspeople.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (0nHUB)

Probably not a massive police force either, and those that are there are professionals and know the townspeople.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 01:13 PM (8sMut)

148 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

Jim, How are you doing ?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 03, 2024 01:13 PM (Akjoo)

149 145 Church of England Slammed for Posting a Job for Anti-racist Office to “Deconstruct Whiteness”

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Well, this is Bassackwards World.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 01:12 PM (FVME7)

It's really, "Deconstruct Western Progress". The WANT the horrors of the Middle Ages.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:14 PM (ynpvh)

150 I think the worst problem the Left 'morality' has... is that it is self defeating. Modern Society depends on trust. We trust others to know how to do their jobs, and do them adequately. We put rules (laws) in place to force those who won't follow the rules, to be identified and cast out.

But when there is no rule of law, when we can no longer trust the system, it will break down. They are championing the breaking of the very rules, which keep THEM safe and secure.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2024 01:15 PM (xaFKb)

151 148 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:12 PM (ynpvh)
Jim, How are you doing ?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 03, 2024 01:13 PM (Akjoo)

I'm doing okay. Feeling a little down yesterday, better today, but worried about my FIL. Youngest child is still a mess (as he was even before wife passed). Cleaning up little by little, some days more than others.

Also worried about Debby Doberman.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

152 136 It's honest projection from the left. This will be our next Democrat president.
Posted by: Braenyard

We just need to look north. The proposed Canadian Hate Speech law is a peep at what is wanted here. You say the wrong thing, you file a complaint, you don’t even have to tell anyone who you are, and if you are successful, you get $20k, the govt gets $50k. No hearing, just tell someone who ‘tis appointed to the hate speech committee your feelings were hurt in a quasi credible manner and voila, you are $20k richer. Think about this. You overhear someone in a restaurant mention they sat “Indian style” and poof! Call the stasi. You don’t even have to be Canadian! Wait a minute….

Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:16 PM (ZdaMQ)

153 Also worried about Debby Doberman.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

Gotta take it one day at a time.. What happened to Debby ?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 03, 2024 01:17 PM (Akjoo)

154 94

you can vote for a dictator or the plain tater; you decide.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (ynpvh)
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Old Clinton joke.
The Clintons are going to a fancy dress party. Hillary comes down the stairs naked with three leaves in the usual places and Bill asks, "Who are you supposed to be?" and she replies, "Eve, and what about you?", seeing Bill naked but with a spud taped to his dick. Bill replies, "I'm a dick-tator."

Posted by: Ciampino - What's a queue?? at March 03, 2024 01:17 PM (qfLjt)

155 152 136 It's honest projection from the left. This will be our next Democrat president.
Posted by: Braenyard

We just need to look north. The proposed Canadian Hate Speech law is a peep at what is wanted here. You say the wrong thing, you file a complaint, you don’t even have to tell anyone who you are, and if you are successful, you get $20k, the govt gets $50k. No hearing, just tell someone who ‘tis appointed to the hate speech committee your feelings were hurt in a quasi credible manner and voila, you are $20k richer. Think about this. You overhear someone in a restaurant mention they sat “Indian style” and poof! Call the stasi. You don’t even have to be Canadian! Wait a minute….

Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:16 PM (ZdaMQ)

Also the deference to "Native" cultures and traditions. Some of my ancestors had a tradition of cutting hearts out of people; maybe that should make a resurgence in DC and Sacramento.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:17 PM (ynpvh)

156 Nobody wants to sous vide Tattoo.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

Mostly because no one wants to hear the muffled-by-water "De pain! De pain!"

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:17 PM (Fc2+y)

157 Also the deference to "Native" cultures and traditions. Some of my ancestors had a tradition of cutting hearts out of people; maybe that should make a resurgence in DC and Sacramento.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:17 PM (ynpvh)

Don't tease me Jim.
But if so, I'll come down and help build the pyramid. Or will a currently standing building do? Maybe just go with a scaffold and make it portable?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 01:20 PM (W/lyH)

158 153 Also worried about Debby Doberman.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

Gotta take it one day at a time.. What happened to Debby ?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 03, 2024 01:17 PM (Akjoo)

I believe she lost her hubby some time before I lost my wife, but has been having a hard time of it. Booze doesn't help make it better.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:20 PM (ynpvh)

159 The left does too have morality!

philip lewis
@Phil_Lewis_
A Philadelphia judge has ordered Terrence Howard to pay nearly $1 million in back taxes and penalties after he allegedly threatened a DOJ lawyer and said that it was “immoral for the U.S. government to charge taxes to the descendants of slaves”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 01:21 PM (FVME7)

160 Churches must get back to preaching about the evils of sin.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 03, 2024 01:21 PM (yeEu9)

161 So, it's important that man rules God and manipulates his words and laws so they comport with his desires, rather than God rule man? Seems the case.
Posted by: GOP sux at March 03, 2024 12:58 PM (Zzbjj)

One way to distill the essence, yes.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:21 PM (Fc2+y)

162 91 Joe Scarborough
@JoeNBC
“Despite his age, Joe Biden is almost certainly the strongest possible candidate Democrats can field against Donald Trump in 2024.”

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Democrats are a morally bankrupt party.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 03, 2024 12:56 PM (FVME7)

What he means is Decrepit Joe is the only well-known Democrat who can believably pretend to be a middle-of-the-road politician.

Posted by: Gref at March 03, 2024 01:21 PM (5fDan)

163 151

I'm doing okay. Feeling a little down yesterday, better today, but worried about my FIL. Youngest child is still a mess (as he was even before wife passed). Cleaning up little by little, some days more than others

Jim, you are grieving. Give yourself grace, even on the days you can’t muster the strength to do anything except pray. Big virtual hugs to you.

Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:22 PM (ZdaMQ)

164 156 Nobody wants to sous vide Tattoo.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

Mostly because no one wants to hear the muffled-by-water "De pain! De pain!"

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:17 PM (Fc2+y)

LOL. Well, if done right in a vacuum-sealed plastic bag, shouldn't be an issue.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:22 PM (ynpvh)

165 107 "We've secretly replaced Joey with a baked Potato. Let's see if anybody knows the difference"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:01 PM (ynpvh)
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Was it topped with butter or cream?

Posted by: Ciampino - a potato by any other name at March 03, 2024 01:22 PM (qfLjt)

166 @133 Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:09 PM (Fc2+y)
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Thank you for posting that. I saved it .

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at March 03, 2024 01:22 PM (o5xMZ)

167 Zombie LBJ
Zombie Rosalind Carter
Zombie Geraldine Ferrarro

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

So, for purposes of the Constitution, is candidate Zombie LBJ a resident of where he still votes, or of where he's buried? It matters when he picks his VP, you know.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:23 PM (Fc2+y)

168 "If Trump comes to office, he’s already declared that he intends to be a dictator," Vindman said.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, (FVME7)
***

It's honest projection from the left. This will be our next Democrat president.

If they really believed this, they'd all already have purchased plane tickets out of the country on the off chance that Trump really does win.

No, these juvenile hysterics are all to make themselves feel brave and tough, because only someone who was would have the guts to speak up as they do in the face of incipient tyranny.

None of them have purchased plane tickets out of the country.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2024 01:23 PM (CsUN+)

169 157 Also the deference to "Native" cultures and traditions. Some of my ancestors had a tradition of cutting hearts out of people; maybe that should make a resurgence in DC and Sacramento.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:17 PM (ynpvh)

Don't tease me Jim.
But if so, I'll come down and help build the pyramid. Or will a currently standing building do? Maybe just go with a scaffold and make it portable?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 01:20 PM (W/lyH)

I hear roof and lawn Aztecs abound, so might be fairly quick to build, assuming we can get a religious permit for some ground and building materials.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

170 >>>>Also the deference to "Native" cultures and traditions. Some of my ancestors had a tradition of cutting hearts out of people; maybe that should make a resurgence in DC and Sacramento.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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I left my heart in Sacramento...
_sung by some politician

Posted by: Braenyard at March 03, 2024 01:24 PM (0nHUB)

171
I believe she lost her hubby some time before I lost my wife, but has been having a hard time of it. Booze doesn't help make it better.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:20 PM (ynpvh)

No it doesn't.. I will pray for her...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 03, 2024 01:25 PM (Akjoo)

172 Also the deference to "Native" cultures and traditions. Some of my ancestors had a tradition of cutting hearts out of people; maybe that should make a resurgence in DC and Sacramento.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Pretty sure we had a thing for scalping. Not on my French side, obviously, but my Native American side. We could join forces in honor of our heritage. Who is to argue with our cultures?

Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:25 PM (ZdaMQ)

173 163 151

I'm doing okay. Feeling a little down yesterday, better today, but worried about my FIL. Youngest child is still a mess (as he was even before wife passed). Cleaning up little by little, some days more than others

Jim, you are grieving. Give yourself grace, even on the days you can’t muster the strength to do anything except pray. Big virtual hugs to you.

Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:22 PM (ZdaMQ)

I do grieve when it hits me, mostly when I'm by myself. I also know myself, and the way to fight feeling depressed is to do something, preferably constructive. So I clean up the mess here, because it's needed and it's therapeutic.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:25 PM (ynpvh)

174 It's really, "Deconstruct Western Progress". The WANT the horrors of the Middle Ages.

In this morning's book thread, there was discussion about who would fare better: a person from long ago time traveling to today, or a person from today time traveling to medieval times.

I know the answer. Today's wannabe tough revolutionary cosplayers wouldn't last 5 minutes.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2024 01:26 PM (CsUN+)

175 What he means is Decrepit Joe is the only well-known Democrat who can believably pretend to be a middle-of-the-road politician.
Posted by: Gref at March 03, 2024 01:21 PM (5fDan)

Plus he got 81 million votes last time !

Posted by: It's me donna at March 03, 2024 01:26 PM (Akjoo)

176 Wanna see some of the differences?
Western culture: get in a line
Eastern culture: scrum instead of a line

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:54 PM (ynpvh)
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You left out Africa.
Posted by: Ciampino
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and San Francisco.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:26 PM (XeU6L)

177 165 107 "We've secretly replaced Joey with a baked Potato. Let's see if anybody knows the difference"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:01 PM (ynpvh)
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Was it topped with butter or cream?

Posted by: Ciampino - a potato by any other name at March 03, 2024 01:22 PM (qfLjt)

Ice cream, but it melted.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

178 My favorite is when people tell you not to judge. Usually they want a pass for their bad behavior. Sure, God will sort it all out, but meanwhile we need to use discernment in our earthly dealings.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 03, 2024 01:26 PM (w6EFb)

179 Pretty sure we had a thing for scalping. Not on my French side, obviously, but my Native American side. We could join forces in honor of our heritage. Who is to argue with our cultures?
Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:25 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Hey, go back far enough, the Celts were head-takers.

Viking ancestry gets cutting the blood-eagle.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:27 PM (DeFcY)

180 167 Zombie LBJ
Zombie Rosalind Carter
Zombie Geraldine Ferrarro

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

So, for purposes of the Constitution, is candidate Zombie LBJ a resident of where he still votes, or of where he's buried? It matters when he picks his VP, you know.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:23 PM (Fc2+y)

I would think where he sleeps is where he resides, Constitutionally speaking.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

181 We just need to look north. The proposed Canadian Hate Speech law is a peep at what is wanted here. You say the wrong thing, you file a complaint, you don’t even have to tell anyone who you are, and if you are successful, you get $20k, the govt gets $50k. No hearing, just tell someone who ‘tis appointed to the hate speech committee your feelings were hurt in a quasi credible manner and voila, you are $20k richer. Think about this. You overhear someone in a restaurant mention they sat “Indian style” and poof! Call the stasi. You don’t even have to be Canadian! Wait a minute….
Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:16 PM (ZdaMQ)

Yet one more reason Canada needs to be kicked out of NATO.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 01:30 PM (8sMut)

182 179 Pretty sure we had a thing for scalping. Not on my French side, obviously, but my Native American side. We could join forces in honor of our heritage. Who is to argue with our cultures?
Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:25 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Hey, go back far enough, the Celts were head-takers.

Viking ancestry gets cutting the blood-eagle.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:27 PM (DeFcY)

I think that you'll find that in almost all cultures, if you go back far enough.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

183 Today’s “Dump Biden” Installment

Just a guess, but I think the word has gone out from the Obama redoubt in Martha’s Vineyard and/or his shadow White House in Kalorama that the New York Times needs to lead the push this week to force Biden out of the race. The Times is doom-scrolling its latest poll showing Biden on his way to certain defeat to Trump. Yesterday’s installment gave the raw numbers—Biden is eroding across the board.

Today the Times is out with another headline of doom, whose contents could have been part of yesterday’s story, except the Times wants to mile their poll for maximum effect. Biden’s own voters think he is too old:

https://tinyurl.com/yvn5puj3

Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2024 01:30 PM (CsUN+)

184 They are championing the breaking of the very rules, which keep THEM safe and secure.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2024 01:15 PM (xaFKb)

Remember that someone mentioned "presentism"? This is part of that. They think that the house which has stood so long (and which is mostly good) can continue to stand even if they remove its foundation. Because they don't like concrete. And it hasn't fallen down yet.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:31 PM (Fc2+y)

185 The cultural traditions of a number of my ancestors mainly consisted of drinking. A Lot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 03, 2024 01:31 PM (q3gwH)

186
I would think where he sleeps is where he resides, Constitutionally speaking.
Posted by: jim
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I'm dubious. I mean, so far as I know, all politicians remain residents of their home state.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:31 PM (XeU6L)

187 I know the answer. Today's wannabe tough revolutionary cosplayers wouldn't last 5 minutes.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2024 01:26 PM (CsUN+)

Oh hell, they wouldn't survive 5 minutes in the 1980s.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 01:31 PM (8sMut)

188 127 Just saw on American Thinker article this morning a small town in Chester County has been hit by a illegal crime gang stealing 10s of thousands with at retail stores, one was deported and was back a few weeks later.

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 01:07 PM (fwDg9)
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Next time make sure he falls down the steps.
Also shoot a few.

Posted by: Ciampino - Person with shotgun at the door. at March 03, 2024 01:31 PM (qfLjt)

189 So I guess the "new" campaign strategy by the Dems is to scare the public to death over the prospect of Trump as President...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 03, 2024 01:31 PM (Akjoo)

190 The cultural traditions of a number of my ancestors mainly consisted of drinking. A Lot.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Scots? Irish?

Posted by: Mike O'Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:32 PM (XeU6L)

191 184 They are championing the breaking of the very rules, which keep THEM safe and secure.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2024 01:15 PM (xaFKb)

Remember that someone mentioned "presentism"? This is part of that. They think that the house which has stood so long (and which is mostly good) can continue to stand even if they remove its foundation. Because they don't like concrete. And it hasn't fallen down yet.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 01:31 PM (Fc2+y)

So Jenga!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:32 PM (ynpvh)

192 I know the answer. Today's wannabe tough revolutionary cosplayers wouldn't last 5 minutes.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 03, 2024 01:26 PM (CsUN+)

Oh hell, they wouldn't survive 5 minutes in the 1980s.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 01:31 PM (8sMut)
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Poul Anderson wrote a short story to that effect, about a guy who went back to 11th Century Iceland and thought he would dominate the place. The locals thought he was a complete idiot, as he hadn't educated himself in local customs and mores, and they wound up killing him out of sheer irritation.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:33 PM (DeFcY)

193 So I guess the "new" campaign strategy by the Dems is to scare the public to death over the prospect of Trump as President...
Posted by: It's me donna
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Oh, they have been at it for the last two years.
'Nazi, nazi!'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:33 PM (XeU6L)

194 186
I would think where he sleeps is where he resides, Constitutionally speaking.
Posted by: jim
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I'm dubious. I mean, so far as I know, all politicians remain residents of their home state.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:31 PM (XeU6L)

Well, if he was cut up into a bunch of pieces, each of which was transported and buried in a different state, could he vote in each?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

195 Dems didn't think about the downside of putting a dementia patient in the White House. Now they're trying to tell grandpa that he's got to give up his car keys, and he's pissed about it, throwing things around the room, and yelling that he's gonna cut them out of his will.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 03, 2024 01:34 PM (q3gwH)

196 The cultural traditions of a number of my ancestors mainly consisted of drinking. A Lot.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Scots? Irish?
Posted by: Mike O'Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:32 PM (XeU6L)
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Could be Russian.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at March 03, 2024 01:34 PM (DeFcY)

197 Well, if he was cut up into a bunch of pieces, each of which was transported and buried in a different state, could he vote in each?
Posted by: jim
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Well, Democrat, so, of course.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:35 PM (XeU6L)

198 The cultural traditions of a number of my ancestors mainly consisted of drinking. A Lot.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Scots? Irish?
Posted by: Mike O'Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:32 PM (XeU6L)
***

Mine are Irish and English.
So we drank alot, but sounded really sophisticated when we talked.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 01:35 PM (W/lyH)

199 Mine are Irish and English.
So we drank alot, but sounded really sophisticated when we talked.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Ah. The Churchill model.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:37 PM (XeU6L)

200 198 The cultural traditions of a number of my ancestors mainly consisted of drinking. A Lot.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Scots? Irish?
Posted by: Mike O'Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2024 01:32 PM (XeU6L)
***

Mine are Irish and English.
So we drank alot, but sounded really sophisticated when we talked.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 01:35 PM (W/lyH)

There was some routine that Steve Martin did where he explained his father was a German Shepherd and his mother a Great Dane.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

201 172
Pretty sure we had a thing for scalping. Not on my French side, obviously, but my Native American side. We could join forces in honor of our heritage. Who is to argue with our cultures?

Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:25 PM (ZdaMQ)
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I have read accounts (unverified) that the French, and the Whiteman in general, started the practice of scalping to keep count of how many Indians killed - for bounty money.

Posted by: Ciampino - One way to cure dandruff at March 03, 2024 01:39 PM (qfLjt)

202 201 172
Pretty sure we had a thing for scalping. Not on my French side, obviously, but my Native American side. We could join forces in honor of our heritage. Who is to argue with our cultures?

Posted by: Piper at March 03, 2024 01:25 PM (ZdaMQ)
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I have read accounts (unverified) that the French, and the Whiteman in general, started the practice of scalping to keep count of how many Indians killed - for bounty money.

Posted by: Ciampino - One way to cure dandruff at March 03, 2024 01:39 PM (qfLjt)

Other body parts too, if I recall what I read correctly.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

203 I keep noticing how evolution and man made climate change are just assumed to be true. They are routinely worked into the text of articles, documentaries, and even advertising as if it is an accepted reality about which there is no longer any debate. Saying that your product or service is "carbon neutral" is just casually mentioned as a humble brag value signal and we're all supposed to nod our heads in affirmation.

I always want to ask: so which was the first ape to realize he had an eternal soul? And of course my favorite: what's so bad about carbon?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 03, 2024 01:42 PM (NBVIP)

204 125 That would be his boyfriend. He's the bitch in the relationship, into getting teased with bearclaws.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

That's not a bear claw, THIS is a bear claw!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z1fcgX8QLU
Posted by: naturalfake at March 03, 2024 01:07 PM (nFnyb)

I think cooking chicken's feet is simpler, and I know what those taste like when cooked right (yummy!)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:44 PM (ynpvh)

205 203 I keep noticing how evolution and man made climate change are just assumed to be true. They are routinely worked into the text of articles, documentaries, and even advertising as if it is an accepted reality about which there is no longer any debate. Saying that your product or service is "carbon neutral" is just casually mentioned as a humble brag value signal and we're all supposed to nod our heads in affirmation.

I always want to ask: so which was the first ape to realize he had an eternal soul? And of course my favorite: what's so bad about carbon?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 03, 2024 01:42 PM (NBVIP)

Since carbon is black, it's racist! to be against it's promotion.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:45 PM (ynpvh)

206 Man is born with a conscience and innately knows right from wrong. Free will allows for which he will choose. Environment can somewhat mute the voice in your head but it's always there.

Posted by: Burnt Umber at March 03, 2024 01:48 PM (T5tzx)

207 205
Since carbon is black, it's racist! to be against it's promotion.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:45 PM (ynpvh)
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You're onto something there Jim. Maybe we need to use that against them.

Posted by: Ciampino - One way to cure dandruff! at March 03, 2024 01:49 PM (qfLjt)

208 @159

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 03, 2024 01:49 PM (tqAXq)

209 -------

I'm dubious. I mean, so far as I know, all politicians remain residents of their home state.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Manchin lives in a yacht on the Potomac.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 03, 2024 01:50 PM (0nHUB)

210 @159 , wasn't Howard the actor who said he was going to prove 1 x 0 doesn't equal zero?. Not surprised the spouted out this nonsense

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 03, 2024 01:50 PM (tqAXq)

211 In the early 1900s every city had houses of ill repute throughout. Normal for people to drink on the the job . Even opium dens would not be uncommon.

Posted by: Burnt Umber at March 03, 2024 01:51 PM (T5tzx)

212 Terrence Howard made a brilliant career move when he held out for more money after the 1st Iron Man pic

they re-cast his character, and he missed out on being part of a jillion-dollar franchise

Posted by: Don Black at March 03, 2024 01:52 PM (oCjPU)

213 >>I keep noticing how evolution and man made climate change are just assumed to be true.

The globalist crowd admitted that they pushed the climate change hoax to achieve their real goal of population control but far too many people refuse to read the evidence that is right in front of them.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 03, 2024 01:52 PM (LkLld)

214 213 >>I keep noticing how evolution and man made climate change are just assumed to be true.

The globalist crowd admitted that they pushed the climate change hoax to achieve their real goal of population control but far too many people refuse to read the evidence that is right in front of them.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 03, 2024 01:52 PM (LkLld)

The whole "We have to kill almost all the people to save the people" paradigm. Them first.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

215 Posted by: JackStraw at March 03, 2024 01:52 PM (LkLld)

The Left are unable to correctly determine cause and effect for the most part.

Posted by: Burnt Umber at March 03, 2024 01:55 PM (T5tzx)

216 Axxshually Norm, it's a well established fact that both Orville and Wilbur used to smoke while piloting the Wright Flyer. And it wasn't unusual to have a bottle of hooch aboard to boot.

Posted by: Clifford C. Clavin, Jr.[ at March 03, 2024 01:56 PM (NBVIP)

217 >>The Left are unable to correctly determine cause and effect for the most part.

They also aren't happy unless they are unhappy. Seriously, if they don't have a cause to whine and virtue seek about they will invent one.

They have convinced themselves that Trump is some inhumane monster but if you ask him what he did in office to make you say that they just say something stupid like he's a racist or mean with zero evidence.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 03, 2024 01:57 PM (LkLld)

218 > The globalist crowd admitted that they pushed the climate change hoax to achieve their real goal of population control but far too many people refuse to read the evidence that is right in front of them.

I would like to know more.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 03, 2024 01:58 PM (oLm4C)

219 "Man is born with a conscience and innately knows right from wrong."

Strong disagree here. Man's basic instinct is to control and dominate the weak. Morality, civility and virtue must be taught.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 03, 2024 01:59 PM (MeG8a)

220 You can't go 'back' to anything. Duty, Honor, Country is dead.

The Country is dead, it was killed by the Uniparty to keep control over us plebs. Duty to such a Country is madness or evil. Honor is faintly remembered and if it is at all, it ought to compel those who feel it's tender chains to oppose the Oligarchs and Plutocrats who have taken power.

But Honor is dead too. It died in 2021 of lack of sustenance. Just as the Tree of Liberty died from dehydration.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at March 03, 2024 02:01 PM (xcxpd)

221 "Man is born with a conscience and innately knows right from wrong."
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Strong disagree here. Man's basic instinct is to control and dominate the weak. Morality, civility and virtue must be taught.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 03, 2024 01:59 PM (MeG8a)

Wow, is this a debate? Man is an animal, it's born with a drive to survive and procreate. Life is about the perpetuation of the genetic code.

Everything else, including morality, is learned.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 03, 2024 02:01 PM (GtZ7X)

222 Man is born with a conscience and innately knows right from wrong.

Posted by: Burnt Umber at March 03, 2024 01:48 PM (T5tzx)

Absolutely false.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 02:01 PM (gSZYf)

223 219 "Man is born with a conscience and innately knows right from wrong."

Strong disagree here. Man's basic instinct is to control and dominate the weak. Morality, civility and virtue must be taught.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 03, 2024 01:59 PM (MeG8a)

You can, for non-psychopaths, believe there is some innate empathy that would lead to the realization that "Hey, I don't like being treated that way! Maybe I shouldn't treat other that way". Then there's also the "How can I get the most pleasure and profit out of a situation" that can override the first, and unfortunately does in many cases, thus reinforcement of societal norms is necessary.
Take my kids; they believe it is morally acceptable to steal from large chain stores. When I confront them with the reality that enough folks doing that lead to closing of such chains and the loss of employment for those who worked there, they have no good response. How they got to believe that has to be "friends" and the school system.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 02:02 PM (ynpvh)

224 I dreamed that Newsome got elected as POTUS. The disgust woke me up.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 03, 2024 02:03 PM (w6EFb)

225 >>I would like to know more.

Read up on The Club Of Rome, the predecessor to the WEF and their publication The Limits To Growth. They partnered with the UN at the first Rio Summit and that was how all this idiocy started.

They needed something to justify their belief that there are too many people on earth and the population must be controlled and global warming fit the bill for them. Eugenics enthusiasts are gonna eugenics.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 03, 2024 02:03 PM (LkLld)

226 222 Man is born with a conscience and innately knows right from wrong.

Posted by: Burnt Umber at March 03, 2024 01:48 PM (T5tzx)

Absolutely false.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 02:01 PM (gSZYf)

Half false. Conscience seems to be universal. If it's not, well...Hell is gonna be full AF.

I reject salvation by the elect only.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at March 03, 2024 02:04 PM (xcxpd)

227 224 I dreamed that Newsome got elected as POTUS. The disgust woke me up.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 03, 2024 02:03 PM (w6EFb)

I dreamt I was playing an AI-created game. It was hillarious. I had to pick which new trends and objects the AI thought it's AI denizens of the game would want to buy, and stock those. What the AI denizens picked was as bizarre and it was hillarious.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 02:05 PM (ynpvh)

228 FWP. Never throw away an old gas can.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 03, 2024 02:05 PM (NBVIP)

229 Well, if he was cut up into a bunch of pieces, each of which was transported and buried in a different state, could he vote in each?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

Or they could sprinkle his ashes in all 50.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 03, 2024 02:05 PM (w6EFb)

230 226 222
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I reject salvation by the elect only.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at March 03, 2024 02:04 PM (xcxpd)

The left believes in their salvation by rigging elections so that their elect are voted in.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

231 229 Well, if he was cut up into a bunch of pieces, each of which was transported and buried in a different state, could he vote in each?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

Or they could sprinkle his ashes in all 50.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 03, 2024 02:05 PM (w6EFb)

for some reason that sounds a bit like homeopathic remedies. "Yeah, there are a few molecules of the stuff in there".

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 02:07 PM (ynpvh)

232 AI is the Mariana Trench of Uncanny Valley.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 03, 2024 02:07 PM (w6EFb)

233 NOOD First World Problems

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 02:08 PM (ynpvh)

234 I reject salvation by the elect only.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at March 03, 2024 02:04 PM (xcxpd)

The left believes in their salvation by rigging elections so that their elect are voted in.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 03, 2024 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

Damn them, then

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at March 03, 2024 02:09 PM (xcxpd)

235 But hark! A HERALD this way comes!

Herald: "Great tidings, your Lordships. Biden is routed everywhere! Even the NYT doth now proclaim this! He is afflicted by a myriad of woes, and so numerous are they that they defy exact account."

Posted by: mnw at March 03, 2024 02:11 PM (NLIak)

236 JUST IN: #SCOTUS sets unusual, short-notice opinion release for Monday morning. Appears to signal that ruling on Trump ballot eligibility is looming.

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2024 04:24 PM (RovqD)

237 Absenting a moral code instituted by an entity greater than, and outside of, ourselves, the moral code becomes nothing more than a choice by personal convenience. It might be convenient to have "community standards" but those are no more defensible than any other set one might choose.

Without God, with pure rationality, what is the rational argument against killing any inconvenient individual who gets in our way?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 03, 2024 05:19 PM (TOe+Q)

238 Off Topic, but apropo. Ace mentioned a few days that during the covid panicdemic he had a life threatening illness that could have killed him. He didn't have covid, but at any moment covid, or rather the panic, could have killed him.

I have EXACTLY that story.

In may of 2022, I showed up to my GP, late, because I didn't have covid like symptoms other than a cough, so I wasn't prioritized, in fact deprioritiezed, I live in Australia, so your labels might be different.

I initially had a bruised rib, which caused a poor expansion of my lungs, and I wore a mask out of respect, though I bitched about it every time. I finally said to myself, "4 weeks is too fucking long," and I went to the doc, I have a good doctor, not my judgment but by my thoracic specialist, who Immediatlely put me on a prophelactic treatment of ammoxycyllin, he recommend NO PAINKILLERS AT ALL, so that I can understand what is happening and then help him. I got the initial 10 day treatment, and I showed up for the second referral, after he had already referred me to the thorasic, however you fucking spell it, specialist, and THIS is what happened.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at March 03, 2024 06:00 PM (XKj0h)

239 I walked in to check in for my appointment in advance of going to the specialist, and maybe (turned out to happen) expand my regimine of anti-bac's, and the administrator, fancy name for a secretary, asked me why I'm not wearing a mask, I said, "I don't need to" she asked me to prove it, I said, "get on with it." she said, "do you have flu like symptoms?" I said, "No, I have pneumonia like symptoms." She said "You need to put on a mask. " I said, "That is the OPPOSITE of what I'm supposed to do." And because she's an adminstrator/secretary, she kicked me out of the clinic and had me wait outside next to the emergency drop off for ambulances, and DEMANDED that I wear a mask. "If you don't follow the rules you might not be seen." is what she said.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at March 03, 2024 06:03 PM (XKj0h)

240 I sat outside, waiting for my doctor, a very small indian dude came out and asked me, "why are you sitting out here?" I said, She, I know who she is, told me to wait here." He was visibly pissed off.

I'm a relatively large man, but the anger in this dudes face was clear. As he brought me in for the consult, I started to put on my mask because it's the law, Not an option, not good practice, it was THE FUCKING LAW, and my doc Doctor Dariush, a great guy, said, "Take that off, I have to or I lose my job, don't you put on a mask again."

I get my final consult, being sent to the specialist, and my prescription for the antibiotics was reafirrmed. And like I said, this tiny man, who took his job serious was FURIOUS with that secretary bitch.

In total, at the time, I had a 3 MONTH cycle of amoxycillin. Doctors don't always tell you the truth of what is happening, knowing that stress is one of the greatest issues with recovery.

At any time, my lungs, and I'm a smoker, so my lungs are already a bit of a mess, could have been overloaded with infection and the infection could have jumped to my heart and fucking killed me.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at March 03, 2024 06:10 PM (XKj0h)

241 Yes, CBD, well said, and we are falling for the same big lie: ye shall be as gods.

Well no, we shan't. It always leads to suffering and death. I remember reading a novel set in Russia and the military men were boasting about how they trusted science now, not some antiquated idea about God!

That was the message of the movie Jesus Revolution, I think. https://tinyurl.com/yc3y3c7s

Posted by: PJ at March 03, 2024 06:16 PM (G1dq6)

242 But the secretary's and the politicians sure patted the fuck out of their own backs as I could have died at any moment.

Related. We, my wife and I, have a small collage of pictures we keep on the wall, so that our little man can see his family and understand who he is and keep memories. The most prominant picture of me on that wall is an UGLY fucking picture. I look like I just came back from a terrible fight and woke up from a coma, but it's me sitting at a computer chair, and my little man holding my hand, as I am leaning away from him, even though I wasn't contagious.

It's one of my favorite pictures, even though there is nothing aesthetic about it, because I look like a bum, and Lukas, my little man, looks like a stray child looking for a raw potato, the back story is that I had a massive coughing spasm bringing up black sputim.

Little man askes me "you okay poppy? Popp Okay?" he was just over 2 years old.

I said, "yes Lukas, Poppy just has it tough" or something like that.

Lukas walked up to me, and held my hand and said, "You're okay poppy I will help you."

This lazy ass looking photo of me and my kid looks like a lazy picture just taken

Posted by: Wickedpinto at March 03, 2024 06:17 PM (XKj0h)

243 out of convenience, which it wasn't. My boy sat there with me for several minutes to make me feel comfortable while I was sick, sick to the degree that I could have died, holding my hand and telling me everything is okay.

My wife saw it, I didn't because I was basicly death walking, but my wife grabbed her phone and was crying as she took that picture.

So FUCKING "THE SCIENCE"

Posted by: Wickedpinto at March 03, 2024 06:18 PM (XKj0h)

244 @PJ on 241.

I LOVE hearing people pretending that the big bang disproves the existence of or at least the stories of the judeaic god and his creation of all that exists.

The Big bang was the RECOGNITION, that there is much we don't understand it's a VALIDATION of gods creation.

The big bang is not at all in conflict with creation, it's actually a validation.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at March 03, 2024 06:22 PM (XKj0h)

245 CBD: Morality is a fixed point in our world,

me: Correct, which is why lynching niggers and robbing and exiling jews is a good thing

CBD: not like that

Posted by: tevildo at March 03, 2024 09:57 PM (L6/j2)

246 Bill Maher: Stop with the I’m sharper than ever. Nobody’s buying that. Don’t try to deny the age thing. Lean into it. Lean in? Lean in like you’re eating soup and just admit it. Say yes. I’m bad with names, and I walk like a toddler with a full diaper.

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2024 09:58 PM (RovqD)

247 All of the coverage of the James Webb Space Telescope has cast a “shadow” on the Big Bang.
Before JWST, the universe started 13.6 billion years ago. Now, the “experts” are saying the universe is about twice as old, but the Big Bang hasn’t moved.
Have no idea where this will land.

Posted by: SMOD at March 03, 2024 10:03 PM (RovqD)

248 Nic update 1

Posted by: ShainS -- Neo-Dissident (A psychopathocracy, if you can keep it) at March 03, 2024 10:10 PM (S/101)

249 Nic update 2

Posted by: ShainS -- Neo-Dissident (A psychpathocracy, if you can keep it) at March 03, 2024 10:26 PM (92BeF)

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