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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Feb. 106-10 oz. fruit, Some are Larger. Large Pink Heart. Beautiful. Meaty, dense fleshed pink heart tomato. Good production, Mid-season. Plant has droopy wild foliage common with hearts. Very good flavor, well balanced, sweet-acid.Wouldn't you love to have one about now? There is a multicolored heart from Wild Boar Farms called Crushed Heart: Crushed Heart was released in 2016 by Wild Boar Farm and developed by Brad Gates, Napa Valley, California, USA. Medium to large fruit (100-300g), heart-shaped, irregular, often with elongated, pointy ends. Very meaty, only few seeds. Light pink in color with green/yellowish stripes and light antho splash. Very vigorous, indetermiante plants with regular wispy leaf foliage. Very good production until first frost. About 80 days from transplant.Link now goes to the main page of the World Tomato Society, where you can find a lot of great tomato information, but they seem to want you to join now. Here's a new photo from Wild Boar Farms: As home gardeners in the U.S. page through seed catalogs and pick out their favorite heirlooms, there's a new seed that has never been available to them before: a tomato the color of a concord grape with plum-colored flesh. It looks otherworldly, maybe Photoshopped. But it's not. This nightshade is purple because its creators at Norfolk Plant Sciences worked for about 20 years to hack color genes from a snapdragon flower into the plant. The genes not only provide pigment, but high levels of anthocyanin, a health-promoting compound. This dusky fruit, named the Purple Tomato, is the first genetically modified food crop to be directly marketed to home gardeners - the seeds went on sale Saturday. Last year, a handful of small farmers started growing and selling the tomatoes, but until now, genetically modified foods were generally only available to commercial producers in the U.S. Norfolk's purple tomato has, per weight, as much anthocyanin as a blueberry or eggplant, Pumplin says. And Americans eat more tomatoes annually, so it makes the nutritional benefits more accessible. In a research published in Nature, Martin found that mice who ate a diet supplemented with purple tomatoes lived 30% longer than those who didn't.But there are also some anthocyanin-enriched tomatoes available to home gardeners which were bred conventionally. You may have grown some tomatoes in the Indigo series, or some others bred from it: Genetic modification in the lab isn't the only way to supercharge foods with nutrients, notes Jim Myers, a professor specializing in vegetable breeding at Oregon State University. He says in fact, traditional breeders were the first to release a tomato to the public with boosted levels of anthocyanins. More than two decades ago Myers began using traditional plant breeding to cross genes from wild tomatoes with modern varieties. The modern domesticated tomato originated from an 80,000 years old species from Ecuador. There are about 10,000 varieties of Solanum lycopersicum, which vary from marigold orange to celery green to khaki maroon Domesticated tomatoes have anthocyanins only in the plant, but Myers says their wild relatives have them in the fruit. He crossed Solanum cheesmaniae from the Galapagos and Solanum chilense from South America with a domesticated variety to ultimately create the Indigo collection of tomatoes.Here are a couple of descendants from the Indigo collection, from Wild Boar Farms, first one called Persuasion: 2-4 oz. fruit, Mid Season, Lovely pink-rose colored with green-gold striping and varying degrees of anthocynin splashes. Very good flavor. Great hang on the vine ripe ability and post harvest self life.Some of the tomatoes with "anthocynin splashes" are not particularly tasty. Valued for health reasons. Maybe this one tastes better. 1-2 oz. fruit, Chocolate brown with black anthocyanin tops. Very ripe fruit gets very sweet and rich. Great production. Sunburn, crack resistant. Great hang time and shelf life. Along the same lines, California-based food company Fresh Del Monte created a pink pineapple in 2020. Its rosy flesh comes from a high level of lycopene, an antioxidant that gives peaches, tomatoes and watermelon their rosy hues. But unlike the Purple Tomato, which the company is making widely available to both farmers and consumers, only Fresh Del Monte can grow it.It's also supposed to have an extra-sweet flavor. Here's another bouquet, with a close-up of one carnation. 'This is the corner of a hand sewn sail made in the 1800s. The craftsmanship and quality of the work is amazing. This is a lost art. The canvas sails were made of hemp along with clothing, ropes, and the caulking used to fill gaps between planks among other things. Hemp is 3 times stronger than jute and was preferred because it was unaffected by salt water. The work done by sail makers was demanding and left no room for error as their sails would be what brings fishermen home safely.' ~ Archaeology & Civilizations by Lori Michael Malone Two guys doing sand art in Pismo today. Right below Kon Tiki. - KJ, Central Coast Life If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is: ktinthegarden at g mail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker. Any thoughts or questions? I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Now that is a beautiful tomato!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 10, 2024 01:37 PM (aicAN) 2
Oh, and First!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 10, 2024 01:37 PM (aicAN) 3
I'll go fetch them.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 10, 2024 01:38 PM (aicAN) 4
Fetched.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 10, 2024 01:38 PM (aicAN) 5
In the park!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 10, 2024 01:38 PM (aicAN) 6
that sail is incredible! the craftsmanship of the past is always astounding.
and now I really, really want a purple tomato! Posted by: Tom Servo at February 10, 2024 01:42 PM (S6gqv) 7
It’s been 6000 years or so since the agricultural revolution. Everything at this point is a GMO.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 10, 2024 01:42 PM (CNd16) 8
That purple tomato is not what I expected.
I'd really like to know how it tastes! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 10, 2024 01:47 PM (aicAN) Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at February 10, 2024 01:48 PM (sHRkV) 10
Thanks for the always wonderful gardening thread K.T. Is it spring yet, sigh?
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at February 10, 2024 01:49 PM (XuPWx) 11
I wonder if I can hire a crop duster to dump roundup on the weeds in my yard.
The roundup container I have says application should be in temps above 70F. We might get there by next Saturday. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 10, 2024 01:49 PM (aicAN) 12
I have never had luck growing 'maters from seed. And if I buy small plants to set out, the price of the yield winds up more than what similar 'maters would cost me at the market.
But I will probably buy some cherry tomato plants this Spring, regardless, as being able to pic them off the vine and eat them on the spot is a luxury. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2024 01:50 PM (tkR6S) 13
The “demanding” and “no room for error” observation with the sail pic is interesting. Today we often have quick cheap things that are disposable; if something wears out or breaks we just replace it; we are wealthy and it’s easier.
But theres’s no resilience in this. Let a supply chain be disrupted by an insane Covid lockdown, a cell tower knocked out by a cheap Hamas drone, or the power grid fail because of idiotic green policies, and things collapse like a house of cards. Posted by: Durak K. at February 10, 2024 01:51 PM (zg/mP) 14
I wonder if Wild Boar Seeds didn't want to admit they are in the greater Sacramento area! Citrus Heights CA
Used to shop in CH when we lived in Fair Oaks CA. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 10, 2024 01:51 PM (aicAN) 15
Also re the sail: Painstaking quality of work makes it stronger, but also builds a mindset that makes the person doing the work stronger.
Posted by: Durak K. at February 10, 2024 01:53 PM (zg/mP) 16
I wonder if Wild Boar Seeds didn't want to admit they are in the greater Sacramento area! Citrus Heights CA
Used to shop in CH when we lived in Fair Oaks CA. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 10, 2024 01:51 PM (aicAN) I would wonder if all their varieties come from a single site, or if they contract with growers from multiple localities to raise seed crops for them? I expect the latter would be more resilient in the event of drought or disease. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2024 01:54 PM (tkR6S) 17
hiya
Posted by: JT at February 10, 2024 01:58 PM (T4tVD) 18
Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2024 01:50 PM
If you can find them, Chocolate Cherry is a great one for extending the harvest of good-tasting fruit into fall as nights cool. Posted by: KT at February 10, 2024 01:59 PM (rrtZS) 19
Love me some 'maters. Not sure if I'll try to grow any this year. My next priorities for SiD (Half) Acres are acquiring a lawn mower and a shed to store said lawn mower and eventually some gardening tools (and a charcoal grill, of course).
I could use some Horde help with my dumb questions (be gentle, I don't have the knowledge and skillz that most people here have) A. I have 0.5 acres to mow. Should I even consider an electric mower for a yard this size? I have used a gas mower 20 years ago. I can put gas in, start it and run it, but that's the extent of my skillz. I am physically capable and willing to work hard, but don't have the time or brain space to learn mechanical skills right now. Low maintenance is preferable to me if possible. 2. I have no level spots in my yard, but I do have a concrete patio. Could I put a resin shed on my patio? I'd like to avoid the expense of grading the yard (although I do actually know someone I'd trust to give a fair price). Or should I just hire some young burly men to take care of my yard? Posted by: screaming in digital at February 10, 2024 02:01 PM (1eY81) 20
Good afternoon. Can't stay long but had a couple of comments.
Those tomatoes made me salivate and long for summer. I'd put one of those thick slices on a burger or between two slices of bread with bacon. Lettuce just does not belong when you have a slice of tomato like that. I grew some cherry tomatoes called chocolate sprinkles last summer. They were fabulous and the plant gave copious amounts well into the fall. When you have to container garden and have limited space that is a terrific feature. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 10, 2024 02:02 PM (t/2Uw) 21
My wife's organic food store had those pink pineapples. I asked her if she wanted one. No, pineapples are yellow.
I got a purple tomato from Baker Creek, but, no tomatoes from the plant. Their purple bean grew to 12' and lots of beans. I don't know how they taste because beans are green. Jamaicans are like that. Posted by: Jamaica at February 10, 2024 02:07 PM (Eeb9P) 22
All the varieties of things for your garden is nice and all, but you probably won't be allowed to grow your own food soon:
http://tinyurl.com/yk9cp9k3 Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 10, 2024 02:08 PM (Angsy) 23
What is the best time of year to prune trees? And how do you prune them to make them Branch out more?
Posted by: Beverly at February 10, 2024 02:15 PM (Epeb0) 24
I've not been impressed with the dark tomatoes. I love the yellow ones!
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 10, 2024 02:16 PM (dfztv) 25
What does great hang time for a tomato mean?
Posted by: Ronster at February 10, 2024 02:18 PM (JTTfX) 26
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A. I have 0.5 acres to mow. Should I even consider an electric mower for a yard this size? I have used a gas mower 20 years ago. I can put gas in, start it and run it, but that's the extent of my skillz. I am physically capable and willing to work hard, but don't have the time or brain space to learn mechanical skills right now. Low maintenance is preferable to me if possible. 2. I have no level spots in my yard, but I do have a concrete patio. Could I put a resin shed on my patio? I'd like to avoid the expense of grading the yard (although I do actually know someone I'd trust to give a fair price). ————- I don’t even know what a resin shed is, so I’m no help there. But get a gas powered lawn mower. If you are worried about maintenance, once a year take it to the local dealer or small engine repair shop. Electric mowers are junk. Buy a gas mower now before Brandon outlaws them. Posted by: Durak K. at February 10, 2024 02:18 PM (zg/mP) 27
SiD if you are asking me: electric mowers are incredibly simple and convenient, they are like running an RC car. My only concern is that they are marginally powered.
Gas mowers are very simple too, they just require gas and to check the oil. They make electric start ones that have powered drives, just like the battery ones. You could also get a riding mower too, if you felt the need. You can put a resin shed anywhere, a concrete slab is nice, but they are like a trailer, you can put them on piles or blocks as well, and that might preserve your patio for things you like to do outside. Yard services are good too. I almost got one for dad at the end, but I was too cheap to spring for it. If you have untamed corners you might consider getting someone in to cut them back to start with. Posted by: Kindltot - Erehwon is closed for re-formatting at February 10, 2024 02:18 PM (D7oie) 28
What does great hang time for a tomato mean?
Posted by: Ronster at February 10, 2024 02:18 PM (JTTfX) . . . right across the plate . . . Actually it means they will stay ripe on the vine longer. Posted by: Kindltot - Erehwon is closed for re-formatting at February 10, 2024 02:19 PM (D7oie) 29
I have a push reel mower, Great Lakes brand. Does a very good job, but, it does function better with short grass, so mow often.
Posted by: Jamaica at February 10, 2024 02:21 PM (Eeb9P) 30
I am done, finally, pruning. I butchered the grape vines like the articles told me to, and hopefully the young ones will continue to be good, and hopefully I haven't killed the ancient ones.
I actually restrained myself, I will be cutting some of them further back next winter so I can get a decent size and shape for the vines. I also put some rose cuttings into the ground to see if I could root them (the experts say "maybe" but it is going to be a wet spring) and I put some rose seeds into potting soil in the fridge, next to my fruit wood, and the baggies I have of apple and service berry seeds in dirt all waiting for me to pull them out in April. Posted by: Kindltot - Erehwon is closed for re-formatting at February 10, 2024 02:24 PM (D7oie) 31
Those tomatoes look awesome....
Love me a nice burger with onion lettuce and a big slice of that tomato. Posted by: Inogame at February 10, 2024 02:26 PM (KCCqb) 32
Thank you Kindltot and Durak!
Stepping out now for a grocery run but will check back later. I appreciate all Horde advice! Posted by: screaming in digital at February 10, 2024 02:27 PM (1eY81) 33
>>>What is the best time of year to prune trees? And how do you prune them to make them Branch out more?
Posted by: Beverly at February 10, 2024 02:15 PM (Epeb0)\ Check with your county Extension Service, but winter is traditionally the time to prune, but that depends on where you live. As they say YMMV. Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at February 10, 2024 02:27 PM (XuPWx) 34
I'm so glad I saw this thread so I can share that my however-many-greats grandfather Zemri worked on a whaler repairing rigging. His needles turned up, tied together with a piece of string, in my mother's desk after her death. They were called net needles and are wood, ranging from half a foot to a foot, very different shapes. Fortunately they came to me, and I've had them framed.
Thanks for letting me see the kind of work Grandpa Zemri did. Posted by: Wenda at February 10, 2024 02:30 PM (IaGYs) 35
What is the best time of year to prune trees? And how do you prune them to make them Branch out more?
Posted by: Beverly at February 10, 2024 02:15 PM (Epeb0) Traditionally apples, plums and pears (and grapes and currants) get pruned before they start breaking bud. I think you want to also not prune before really bad cold weather, and a couple days at least before heavy rains. We usually get nice weather in February, so I prune then. Now, I mean. the commercial vineyards prune earlier than I do in late November and December, and I don't know if that is because it is the best time to do it, or if because the farm labor contractor companies plant trees in January and March. I suspect planting trees pays better. My earliest plum is starting to show green getting ready to break out in flowers, and my wife's asian pear is also stretching its buds in anticipation so I started pruning the second I saw that. Posted by: Kindltot - Erehwon is closed for re-formatting at February 10, 2024 02:31 PM (D7oie) 36
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Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at February 10, 2024 02:38 PM (s+cGt) 37
Beverly, the best thing about Youtube is that there are a number of people who really like to talk about something.
There is an English hobby orchardist named Stephen Hayes who does a lot about pruning and grafting trees, I have watched a lot of what he put out. Mostly you want to cut out the middle so there is air and sun to the whole crown, and get rid of those tall suckers growing up because in fruit trees the growth goes to the tallest bits, and those suckers don't have apples Then you prune it from the bottom so you can mow under it, since getting slapped in the face with branches while running a mower can cause you to swear, and that may be detrimental to your morals/ Posted by: Kindltot - Erehwon is closed for re-formatting at February 10, 2024 02:40 PM (D7oie) 38
34 .... "my however-many-greats grandfather Zemri worked on a whaler repairing rigging. His needles turned up, tied together with a piece of string, in my mother's desk after her death. They were called net needles and are wood, ranging from half a foot to a foot, very different shapes"
Wenda, That is so cool. I wonder if there are folks who try to retain these skills and tools like some people who do historical reenactment with period correct tools and materials. The treadle sewing machine we inherited, made circa 1890s, came with the leather and sail making needles, and others, intended to be used with that machine. Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2024 02:53 PM (zudum) 39
Those photos of the various tomatoes has me salivating for a sun-warmed tomato sammy on sourdough.
Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2024 02:54 PM (zudum) 40
KT,
Thanks for all those tomato links in the post. Even if we only grow cherry-style types, the subject is so varied and interesting. Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2024 02:55 PM (zudum) 41
Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Just leaving work and a long drive home Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2024 02:58 PM (SJ3l8) 42
I gots the hots for tuhmaters!
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 10, 2024 03:01 PM (w6EFb) 43
Safe travels Skip !
Posted by: JT at February 10, 2024 03:02 PM (T4tVD) 44
I'm going to grow black strawberry tomatoes again - they were extremely productive and maintained their integrity for a long time.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 10, 2024 03:03 PM (w6EFb) 45
I'm going to grow black strawberry tomatoes again - they were extremely productive and maintained their integrity for a long time.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 10, 2024 03:03 PM (w6EFb) They wouldn't lie under oath ? Posted by: JT at February 10, 2024 03:08 PM (T4tVD) 46
Any SoCal morons feel the 4.7 earthquake yesterday? Coincidentally on the anniversary of the '71 Sylmar 6.7 quake.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at February 10, 2024 03:14 PM (sHRkV) 47
North Texas: we got a week of 60-70 degrees of false spring, and it set off the foolish optimism in the gardener ion all of us.
A friend had half a bag of red onion starts left over from her garden, so I filled most of a raised garden bed, and then filled the rest with leftover radish seeds from two years ago. It's on the north side of a building, so I'm seeing if the soil temp stays cold until the threat of frost is past. If not, hey, it was a free experiment. Posted by: Not From Around Here at February 10, 2024 03:19 PM (wrzAm) Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 10, 2024 03:21 PM (EEgXH) 49
I only eat tomatoes the one month I spend in Sonoma and get them from the farmstand. Incredibly sweet and gorgeous to look at.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 10, 2024 03:31 PM (RIvkX) 50
Those are some lovely tomatoes! I long to eat them raw standing over a sink with a tomato in one hand and a salt shaker in the other.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 10, 2024 03:35 PM (MeG8a) 51
Our backyard is gonna pop blossoms like crazy in about another month or so. As you may recall, I completed a major overhaul of the yard in order to evict gophers, which had pocketed the entire area. Hazardous to walk on. They are now gone, as I (and a hired hand) put down 2 layers of fine mesh gopher wire over the majority of the yard and covered that with decomposed granite 4" deep. We left a 36" border with plants all around. After all the rains we've had it's gonna look great and we'll have a nice space to catch a few rays.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 10, 2024 03:42 PM (MeG8a) 52
Notsothoreau at February 10, 2024 02:16 PM
If you haven't liked the dark tomatoes, you might want to try picking them while the shoulders are still green. Most of them taste better then. Indian Stripe is reputed to maintain its flavor when fully colored. Posted by: KT at February 10, 2024 03:45 PM (rrtZS) 53
Beverly at February 10, 2024 02:15 PM
For deciduous fruit trees, prune before the tree buds to increase growth in the direction of the cuts. To decrease growth, prune after budding. This directs growth into the newly opened buds. There are some disease considerations for timing of pruning stone fruits. Check with your extension agency. Posted by: KT at February 10, 2024 03:50 PM (rrtZS) 54
It is quite remarkable to me that they've been working on that GMO tomato for 20 years and still don't want to describe the flavor to NPR.
Posted by: KT at February 10, 2024 04:35 PM (rrtZS) 55
Screaming in digital:
"I have 0.5 acres to mow..." ------------ We live on a 1/2 acre property, about two-thirds is lawn (for certain definitions of 'lawn'-- it's mostly grass anyway) and use a riding mower, followed by tow-behind sweeper to pick up the clippings. Hubby used to cut it with a regular walk-behind unit, said it took most of a day. Suggest you walk your property, back and forth as if you were mowing, and decided whether you want to: -- DIY with walk-behind (time your walkabout, to see if electric is even an option. My guess is no, if you want to mow it all same-day) --DIY with rider ($$$$ and where will you store it?) --Just pay someone to do it and not worry about gas, charger, time, storage... If we had the extra $, would definitely hire someone! Posted by: JQ at February 10, 2024 04:39 PM (njWTi) 56
From Boise area: lows 25-39 F, highs 41-55. We had a brief snow flurry Friday morning - roaring wind last Sunday night.
I've been sick all week, but am feeling better today, so we both went out for a bit of yard work. Husband trimmed back the red raspberries, and we both took some whacks at the gangly sagebrush (the only known native plant in the yard). I worked in the garden behind the kitchen window - cut down the 3 mums first. Then I pulled out as much alyssum roots as I could, to let the bulbs get sunlight. The hyacinths look strong, and the crocus appear to have multiplied nicely. There are a few leftover tulip sprouts and one daffodil sprout, from things that were planted there previously. I checked on the daffodils I planted last fall, in a raised bed and in 2 large pots - nothing yet. There are tulip sprouts by the front sidewalk - it seems a bit early for them. There are sprouts of chives in the vegetable bed - those usually are this early. The damned sycamore trees have not yet dropped all their leaves! - we continue to dispose of those leaves, and rake up all the sticks that fall from them. Posted by: Pat* at February 10, 2024 06:58 PM (td6Vu) 57
Pat*,
Sorry you've been sick. Glad you're seeing signs of life from your bulbs. And chives! Sycamore leaves (and those seed balls) are a pain to deal with! Posted by: KT at February 10, 2024 10:04 PM (rrtZS) 58
Black Beauty Tomatoes taste wonderful. https://www.rareseeds.com/tomato-black-beauty
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