Music Thread: Overrated? You're Damned Straight They Are Overrated!

[Garrett's winter footwear]

Overrated? How dare you!

Yeah...I am not suggesting that the artists I have on my sh*t list are bad, but I am claiming that their reputations are not completely deserved. And that of course is mostly opinion, but that's the fun of talking music...

I bounced this question off of Garrett, who actually does know a thing or two about music and other stuff that totally isn't gay. He had a few comments about overrated, and of course he is 100% wrong. Lou Reed is great! Well, maybe not 100%. He is correct about Neil Young and Post-65 Dylan, but those are no-brainers.

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Janis Joplin is a pretty run-of-the-mill blues rock (folk rock?) singer. I think her voice is overrated, and what I consider her best song was written by Kris Kristofferson!

Me And Bobby McGee

Jimi Hendrix is annoying. His guitar is screechy and cacophonous, and I think the real reason he is lauded is that he was one of the first to expand what a guitar could do (aside from hurting my ears. But Hey Joe is a solid song, so I'll give him a bit of credit.

Pearl Jam is crap. As bad as Nirvana, and even more pompous. Imagine being more unpleasant than Kurt Cobain! But Eddie Vedder manages that.

Better Man is a pretty good song, so at least he isn't a complete disaster.

Bruce Springsteen is not to be confused with his solid band from the 1970s and early 1980s. I think The E Street Band carried Springsteen, as evidenced by his total sh*t solo stuff. Yeah, "Nebraska" had a couple of okay songs on it, but Bruce Springsteen as a solo artist is laughable. If I wanted to be yelled at, I would just pick a fight with my wife. Why spend $500 for a concert ticket?

Spirit In The Night is from Greetings from Asbury Park, N.J., his first album. It's pretty good, as are the next three. Then he made a pop album, and then his head got so big he couldn't fit through the doors of his mansion. 21 albums, and nothing worth a damn after 1980!

And the Grand Prize Winner is below the fold!

The Beatles are not the ne plus ultra of rock bands. They are sometimes great! They made some wonderful music! But they also made a bunch of forgettable, formulaic stuff that everyone seems to forget about. And while Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band isn't the worst album ever, it sure isn't great. Maybe half the songs are good, and that does not a classic album make!

Here Comes The Sun is a sweet song from their last album, Abbey Road, which is a solid piece of musicianship. Solid. Upper tier. Certainly putting them in the top 100 bands of all time.

Now go home and get your f*cking shinebox!

Posted by: CBD at 07:30 PM

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1 If you hadn't said, I'd have said that Janis Joplin was the most overrated singer since Yoko Ono.

Another ridiculously overrated act - Lady Gaga. Any decent southern country church had a soprano better than her in it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:33 PM (S6gqv)

2 Man, if you wanted to start a flamewar you could have just said so. Anyway...

1. I never, ever, "got" the Rolling Stones.
2. Bob Dylan can't sing. I don't mean his musicianship is bad, I mean he cannot fucking sing. And his songs are pretentious crap.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 07:34 PM (H5IZ1)

3 It's Mozart's birthday today and he's certainly not overrated.

Posted by: Tuna at January 27, 2024 07:35 PM (oaGWv)

4 Bruce Springsteen

Brilliant Disguise

http://tinyurl.com/bkphz5ef

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:36 PM (ENQN6)

5 I have thoughts about this. They trend towards classic blues/rock.

Posted by: RI Red at January 27, 2024 07:36 PM (d9i2R)

6 Joni Mitchell. For some reason people believe she was a good singer. She was not. Her voice sounds like a dental drill and her songs have unusually vapid lyrics.

Bob Seger. "Night Moves" is a decent, vaguely memorable song. The rest of his work is vastly self-important. I have a suspicion his career was based on people confusing him with Pete Seeger.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 27, 2024 07:36 PM (78a2H)

7 Another ridiculously overrated act - Lady Gaga. Any decent southern country church had a soprano better than her in it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:33 PM (S6gqv)

Solo female acts don't tend to be anything special. They're not there to sing, they're there to sell lifestyle inadequacy, affirmative messaging and social trends to women.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 07:36 PM (H5IZ1)

8 Lay down a track like that...

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:37 PM (ENQN6)

9 There is nothing about Janis Joplin that I want to listen to.

I really like Electric Ladyland and Are You Experienced by Hendrix.

I agree that the E Street Band is what made Springsteen Springsteen.

Posted by: browndog plays the grooves of early Beatles records at January 27, 2024 07:37 PM (TTAGa)

10 And I played bass in basement bands, that never graduated to garage bands.

Posted by: RI Red at January 27, 2024 07:37 PM (d9i2R)

11 Janis

Kris

Jimi

Bob

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:38 PM (ENQN6)

12 Green Day - most annoying hack commie band ever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:39 PM (S6gqv)

13 Yellow submarine, yellow submarine, yellow submarine.

Now, that's what I call a real song.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2024 07:39 PM (6PzPj)

14 Green Day - most annoying hack commie band ever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:39 PM (S6gqv)

Rage Against the Machine takes that one, IMO.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 07:39 PM (H5IZ1)

15 Joplin sucked.
Screaming, scratchy, drugged up.
No thanks.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 27, 2024 07:40 PM (W/lyH)

16 Clapton . . .

Posted by: RI Red at January 27, 2024 07:41 PM (d9i2R)

17 Janis's best song was Cry Baby, but it sounds like shit live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfGSd-tikH4

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2024 07:41 PM (Q4KYm)

18 Now Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen, well, there's a band. Second place, the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM (W/lyH)

19 Kris also threw this down.

http://tinyurl.com/453ev6kx

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM (ENQN6)

20 You forgot U2. First three albums were remarkable. Everything after that was dreck

Also forgot to include Neil Young and Lou Reed. Both these bastards can. not. sing.

Your list is pretty good.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM (RIvkX)

21 Springsteen is a draft dodging, tax evading, drunk driving commie and can go fornicate himself in the heart with a dull steak knife.

Beatles had some OK songs, but I never really got the hero worship thing they received.

Posted by: Hillary's Jockstrap at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM (M1YRs)

22 I've posted this before but not on the music thread....

Danny Carey of Tool, Neal Peart of Rush and Stewart Copeland of The Police jamming..

Copeland looks at the other two drummers and says f**k it, I'll play guitar.

http://tinyurl.com/2yn73uzp

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM (XV/Pl)

23 Tina Turner and Anita .Baker.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM (bn3/b)

24 Weezer.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:43 PM (S6gqv)

25 I agree about the Beatles AND the Rolling Stones - their best song was "Honkeytonk Blues". Taylor Swift seems overrated to me, having listened to most of her top-rated songs in a row. The most recent ones blend together.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 27, 2024 07:43 PM (4GLpL)

26
From another genre, three musicians I can't understand the fuss about:

- Maria Callas
- Glenn Gould
- Wilhelm Fürtwangler

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2024 07:43 PM (MoZTd)

27 Nitty Gritty Dirt Band.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM (W/lyH)

Best version of Mr Bo

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:43 PM (ENQN6)

28 If someone had asked me, "what are the odds of somebody - anybody - at Ace of Spades making several observations about recording artists, and you, Paco, agreeing with every word", I would have said the odds were about as likely as encountering a live specimen of the Great Auk. And yet, it has happened. If there's to be a flame war, I stand by CBD.

Posted by: Paco at January 27, 2024 07:44 PM (njExo)

29 The best band of the Grunge Era was Stone Temple Pilots.

I did go on a vacation to Seattle during the tail end of the grunge era it really was cool how many music spots and clubs in Seattle to listen to music.

Jazz and Swing was also very big in Seattle at the time I went.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 07:44 PM (XV/Pl)

30 Springsteen's "Jersey" shtick was lame and gay.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 27, 2024 07:45 PM (RIvkX)

31 Dishonorable mentions from the early 2000s: Limp Bizkit and Staind. IMO Staind was worse because as stupid as Limp Bizkit was, they were just what they were. Staind's lyrics were all 'my dad didn't love me' masturbatory poor-me BS.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 07:45 PM (H5IZ1)

32 Nobody's mentioned us yet?

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!

Posted by: Nickelback at January 27, 2024 07:45 PM (a3Q+t)

33 Im not waiting on a lady

Im just waiting on a friend

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:45 PM (ENQN6)

34
And I played bass in basement bands, that never graduated to garage bands.
Posted by: RI Red

Are there any attic bands?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 27, 2024 07:45 PM (63Dwl)

35 Just so I'm not merely picking on Baby Boomers, let me throw in George Gershwin. He seems to have been a competent Tin Pan Alley composer who inexplicably wrote discordant, repetitive "symphonic" works, which orchestra directors inexplicably fell in love with.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 27, 2024 07:46 PM (78a2H)

36 Tina Turner and Anita .Baker.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM

I have a soft spot for Tina Turner because she was a great live performer. Very entertaining. But neither she nor Baker could compare to Aretha Franklin, my favorite.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 27, 2024 07:46 PM (4GLpL)

37 20 You forgot U2. First three albums were remarkable. Everything after that was dreck

Also forgot to include Neil Young and Lou Reed. Both these bastards can. not. sing.

Your list is pretty good.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM (RIvkX)

INXS left us hanging

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:46 PM (ENQN6)

38 Beatles
Rolling Stones
U-2
Metallica
Jimmy Buffett
Motley Crue
Guns N Roses

Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2024 07:47 PM (xPl2J)

39 29. Jazz and Swing was also very big in Seattle at the time I went. - Thomas Bender

I should probably have pointed out in my previous comment that my opinion on the pop music of the last 50 years isn't worth very much anyway. Classic jazz and swing are my thing.

Posted by: Paco at January 27, 2024 07:47 PM (njExo)

40 Rush

The lead singers voice sounds like a strangled cat.

And every song sounds the same.
Boring and annoying.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 27, 2024 07:48 PM (dgvn5)

41 Im not waiting on a lady

Im just waiting on a friend
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:45 PM (ENQN6)
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I'm texting right now with my buddy who gifted me that cassette in 1981

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 27, 2024 07:48 PM (RIvkX)

42 Bruce Springsteen is not to be confused with his solid band from the 1070s

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I had no idea he was THAT old.

Posted by: Bigsmith at January 27, 2024 07:49 PM (+j+ar)

43 Aerosmith. They're main claim to fame is that they managed to outlive most everyone else in their generation, except for Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. They had a couple good songs, but most of their output has been generic and forgettable.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:49 PM (S6gqv)

44 @30

>>Springsteen's "Jersey" shtick was lame and gay.

Just as retarded as "Scranton Joe," who lived in Scranton for a sum total of 5 years, his family moved around because his dad was similarly a retarded meathead like his son, before settling down in Delaware.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 07:49 PM (XV/Pl)

45 Cold Play.

Awful.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 27, 2024 07:50 PM (dgvn5)

46 If you’re still listening to people that made music 50 years ago, give it up.

Posted by: JackWayne at January 27, 2024 07:50 PM (iUX6L)

47 Joan Baez...I 'd rather listen to a cat hollering in an alley

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 07:50 PM (bn3/b)

48 The dead guy formally known as Prince. Also, Kansas,Toto, Foreigner, Kiss, and The Dead. Shall I go on?

Posted by: fd at January 27, 2024 07:50 PM (vFG9F)

49 In my experience, Rush is a band that most men like, and that few women can tolerate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:51 PM (S6gqv)

50 I'm texting right now with my buddy who gifted me that cassette in 1981
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 27, 2024 07:48 PM (RIvkX)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLVmBOOqVU

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:51 PM (ENQN6)

51
46 If you’re still listening to people that made music 50 years ago, give it up.
Posted by: JackWayne at January 27, 2024 07:50 PM (iUX6L)
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I make music every time I get out of a chair.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 27, 2024 07:51 PM (RIvkX)

52 Never liked Springsteen even before he got preaching his Leftism

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 07:52 PM (fwDg9)

53 Toto was pocoros and other studio people

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 07:52 PM (ENQN6)

54 In my experience, Rush is a band that most men like, and that few women can tolerate.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:51 PM (S6gqv)

I don't get them.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 07:52 PM (H5IZ1)

55 ... The Dead. Shall I go on?
Posted by: fd at January 27, 2024 07:50 PM (vFG9F)

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No. I denounce you.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 27, 2024 07:52 PM (RIvkX)

56 AC/DC.

Background music for a beer bong.

Posted by: mikeski at January 27, 2024 07:52 PM (DgGvY)

57 Grateful Dead?

Posted by: Ducks and runs away at January 27, 2024 07:52 PM (NBVIP)

58 I like to tweak Springsteen fans by referring to Bruce as "Jersey Bob Segar," which is actually an insult to Segar.

Posted by: holygoat at January 27, 2024 07:53 PM (O+7J6)

59 In my experience, Rush is a band that most men like, and that few women can tolerate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:51 PM (S6gqv)

They have this reputation, but I always saw a fair number of women at Rush concerts.

Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2024 07:53 PM (xPl2J)

60 I do find that side 2 of Abbey Road is an unbroken string of music that consistently pleases me.

Often even the most overrated artists have a some catchy tunes.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at January 27, 2024 07:53 PM (gllTv)

61 Never saw Joplin but wife and I saw Pearl. Joplin cover. It was pretty darn good.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 07:53 PM (XMkZw)

62 Basically any stoner band is likely overrated, because everyone listening to their music is high already so it all sounds fine.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 27, 2024 07:53 PM (78a2H)

63
When these geriatric rockers get pushed onto stage, do they play anything new? I can imagine a large fraction of the crowd not wanting to hear anything they didn't get high listening to 50 years ago.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2024 07:53 PM (MoZTd)

64 Tom Servo Nurse made your point.

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 07:54 PM (fwDg9)

65 @46

>>If you’re still listening to people that made music 50 years ago, give it up.

The Zenith of Music was a 20 year period between 1975 to 1995.

That is not to say there wasn't good music before and after but that represents a time when numerous genres and sub-genres were created.

Music would coast on for a little while until it began to die an ignoble death sometime in the middle of Obama's first term.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 07:54 PM (XV/Pl)

66 Were we separated at birth, or did you steal my opinions?

Posted by: SteveF at January 27, 2024 07:54 PM (iM6iw)

67 Seen Rush something like 6 times.
I'm a fan. And a dude.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 07:54 PM (XMkZw)

68 14 Green Day - most annoying hack commie band ever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:39 PM (S6gqv)

Rage Against the Machine takes that one, IMO.
Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 07:39 PM (H5IZ1)

Agreed. And if it weren't for a wah pedal and drop-D tuning, Tom Morello would be selling handjobs and communist tracts under the overpass at $5 a throw.

Posted by: Yet capitalism made those commie fucks rich at January 27, 2024 07:55 PM (pKFK0)

69 Saw Jackson Brown a coupla summers ago. Absolutely loved it.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 27, 2024 07:56 PM (NBVIP)

70 Rush,
Technically they're good but their silly libertarian fantasy world building is off-putting.

Posted by: Abzod at January 27, 2024 07:56 PM (HqRdV)

71 @49

>>In my experience, Rush is a band that most men like, and that few women can tolerate.

They are an acquired taste I suppose, but they are most defiantly a band other bands really like and site as major influences.

Other than Iron Maiden, Rush is the band I've seen live more than any other.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 07:56 PM (XV/Pl)

72 e.g. good tunes
Hollies
Outfield
Jethro Tull
The Guess Who
The Who e.g "I cant explain"
Cheap Trick
REM
INXS
Yes

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at January 27, 2024 07:57 PM (gllTv)

73 Soundgarden has been my utube live thing lately.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 07:57 PM (XMkZw)

74 29 The best band of the Grunge Era was Stone Temple Pilots.

Alice In Chains > Stone Temple Pilots

But STP was damn good.

Posted by: Yet capitalism made those commie fucks rich at January 27, 2024 07:57 PM (pKFK0)

75 Bought 1 GD album, soon after someone borrowed it never to return it, didn't miss it even right away

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 07:58 PM (fwDg9)

76 29 The best band of the Grunge Era was Stone Temple Pilots.

They were the best songwriters of the genre.

Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2024 07:58 PM (xPl2J)

77 Nothing like a music thread to make me comment.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 07:59 PM (XMkZw)

78 Saw STP before wyland croaked. Damn good concert

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 08:00 PM (XMkZw)

79 I love music. All kinds of music. I listen to Mozart and Post Malone, Bb King and Clapton, Gershwin, Jimmy Buffett, Robert Johnson and Miles. I don't like every one of their songs but music feeds everyone's soul.

Posted by: Megthered at January 27, 2024 08:00 PM (yyACW)

80 70 Rush,
Technically they're good but their silly libertarian fantasy world building is off-putting.
Posted by: Abzod at January 27, 2024 07:56 PM (HqRdV)

Oh Come on 2112 is the Greatest Sci Fi Album ever made! (ok maybe it's the only one but still)

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 08:01 PM (S6gqv)

81
Joni Mitchell

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 27, 2024 08:01 PM (xG4kz)

82 I think that music sticks in your brain in a way very close to sex.

It can take you back to a point and place that a good memory of sex and love can do.

So do we play music to set the mood or to accompany the mood.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2024 08:01 PM (ENQN6)

83 Other than Iron Maiden, Rush is the band I've seen live more than any other.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 07:56 PM (XV/Pl)

I have their first three albums. The only band that's as hit-or-miss for me is Judas Priest. On Maiden's first record I always end up skipping to Phantom of the Opera, listening to that and Transylvania and then switching to something else.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 08:01 PM (H5IZ1)

84 Jay Black. Johnny Maestro. Guys could sing.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 27, 2024 08:01 PM (0EOe9)

85 Iron Maiden? EXCELLENT!!!

Posted by: Bill and Ted at January 27, 2024 08:01 PM (pKFK0)

86 Took me a while to figure this out..but I only care about the music as music. Not looking for wisdom in the lyrics, dont care if the performer is an idiotic jerk, only really focused on the best of the work and not too concerned at the later decline. Side note why is it that almost nobody writes their best stuff after their late 20s? Occasionally you get a ZZ Top or a Cheap Trick who get better and better at playing their early stuff until age gets them, but you would think composing skills would get better. BTW Cobain was an idiot, he himself said his lyrics were just words he usually made up at the studio but if you don't hear the raw power and sound you are missing what appears to be the Last Great Rock Band. Cobain couldn't function in life but music was thoroughly understood. My wife thinks in spiritual terms and says he was possessed. She doesn't really like hard rock anyway

Posted by: Azjaeger at January 27, 2024 08:02 PM (3/XaG)

87 I was heavy into rock n roll in the 60s and early 70s. The music started deteriorating toward the end of the 70s and had gone, completely to sh&t by the end of the 70s. It has never recovered. I don't even turn on the radio anymore. I still play music all day long nut it is all old sh%t.

Posted by: vic at January 27, 2024 08:03 PM (A5THL)

88 Kanye West. I mean seriously, who ever sits down and says "you know what I want? I want to listen to some Kanye West music!!!" I wanna go hit myself in the head with a hammer, more likely.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 08:03 PM (S6gqv)

89 De gustibus and all that but Camera Obscura is a lovely Scottish indie-pop folk band that deserves much more love than they've enjoyed in their twenty several year run.

Posted by: mea culpa at January 27, 2024 08:03 PM (/2cRw)

90 Naughty Pine, how about Toni Braxton?

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 08:03 PM (bn3/b)

91 Kanye West. I mean seriously, who ever sits down and says "you know what I want? I want to listen to some Kanye West music!!!" I wanna go hit myself in the head with a hammer, more likely.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 08:03 PM (S6gqv)

I would point out that you're probably not in his target demographic.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 08:04 PM (H5IZ1)

92 The Limelighters and Glen Yarbourgh sang music my dad made me listen to. Good for folk revival.

Christine Lavin does comic folk music. I've been on stage with her twice for audience men singing her "Sensitive New Age Guys." At the Birchmere. Was fun, even if it took a bit to overcome my shyness.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:04 PM (u82oZ)

93 “ Music would coast on for a little while until it began to die an ignoble death sometime in the middle of Obama's first term.”

The Eastern Europeans, Russians, Japanese, South Americans, some Euro bands play some really great rock ‘n roll. Just gotta look around. There’s some American bands that are good but not nearly like the rest of the world.

Posted by: JackWayne at January 27, 2024 08:05 PM (iUX6L)

94
3 Dog Night, particularly "Easy to be Hard", where those mf-ers introduced "social injustice" into pop song lyrics. GFY, boy-os.

3 Night Dogs kicked their asses up one side of the alley and down the other.

I'm outta here ... gotta peruse a catalog or two and get my order in with our wholesale buyer.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 27, 2024 08:05 PM (xG4kz)

95 . I don't even turn on the radio anymore. I still play music all day long nut it is all old sh%t.
Posted by: vic at January 27, 2024 08:03 PM (A5THL)

Nostalgie golden oldies stations play 80's and 90's music. You know you're really over the hill when the Golden Oldies music is too new for you. (Ha I'm there too)

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 08:05 PM (S6gqv)

96 Love Rush, and I'm an 'ette way over 29.

Could never stand Jackson Browne. Ever. All his songs have the same musical line, am I the only one who's ever noticed?? Always suspected him of getting by on his looks.

Posted by: skywch at January 27, 2024 08:05 PM (uqhmb)

97 I like a lot of 'early' music

early Beatles when they were covering Chuck Berry and other RnB hits- Twist and Shout, etc

early Elvis- rockabilly @ Sun Records "Mystery Train"
early Rolling Stones- Route 66, Little Red Rooster, etc

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:06 PM (geLO8)

98 The point of Dylan are the lyrics. The music is the pompous part.
The Doors are too different to be under/over rated.
Stones, Beatles, Aerosmith and Bruce all suck.
The Who don't suck, but, I do rate them as an over.

Posted by: Jamaica at January 27, 2024 08:06 PM (Eeb9P)

99 I was a Hendrix fan from late teens to early 20s, but kind of see what you mean.

Lately been tending to listen older music through Postmodern Jukebox or Bardcore

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 08:06 PM (fwDg9)

100 No, our local station is 70s and 80s. It's not as awful as I thought it would be.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 27, 2024 08:07 PM (L8hCM)

101 .. The Dead. Shall I go on?
Posted by: fd

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I'm indifferent to them overall but dated a swimmer that liked them and Crosby, Stills, etc. a lot so I heard a BUNCH of all of that. I tolerated her musical taste because of obvious reasons.

I am of the mind that if a good band like Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Little Feat, the Band, Guy Clark, John Prine, etc. had written and recorded "Ripple" then it would be widely regarded as one of the best songs ever recorded.

As it is it's just a Grateful Dead song.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 08:07 PM (k1AR8)

102 I saw an ad for the Stones 2024 concert tour. The ad was sponsored by AARP, so that tells you something.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 27, 2024 08:07 PM (0EOe9)

103 There was gold lame sport coat Elvis
then leather jacket Elvis
then sequin jumpsuit Elvis

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:07 PM (geLO8)

104 Pearl Jam's first album was pretty good. Later on, they developed the weird habit of sticking an intriguing intro on a song that sounded completely different (and worse) than the intro. "Corduroy" is a prime example, and it got a shit-ton of radio play in the mid-late 1990s.

"Yellow Ledbetter" is a solid song, more for the guitar work than the vocals.

But, in general, I'll take 80s cock-rock swagger over 90s grunge melancholia. Music is more fun when it's fun.

Posted by: Cybernetic at January 27, 2024 08:07 PM (xawZJ)

105 Skip

Postmodern Jukebox does excellent covers. Some of their singers are pretty hot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:07 PM (u82oZ)

106 You know you're really over the hill when the Golden Oldies music is too new for you. (Ha I'm there too

=========================

I figured that out long ago.

Posted by: vic at January 27, 2024 08:08 PM (A5THL)

107 Put me in the "meh" camp where Rush is concerned.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 27, 2024 08:08 PM (78a2H)

108 For some reason I always pay attention to the bass player and drummer. If they're good it's a good chance the band is good.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 08:09 PM (XMkZw)

109 I get a lot of commie rock, especially Rage, Butthole and DK. Irony is completely lost on them.

Posted by: Jamaica at January 27, 2024 08:09 PM (Eeb9P)

110 @93

>>There’s some American bands that are good but not nearly like the rest of the world.

No doubt, I've been put onto two bands from mentions on the music thread, The Beth's from Auckland New Zealand and a Canadian band whose name escapes me right now that sound like Rush and Led Zeppelin had a baby.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 08:09 PM (XV/Pl)

111 Fun fact: The Doors had no bassist

Fun Fact: Johnny Cash never used a steel guitar in his band

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:09 PM (geLO8)

112 Joplin: Spot on. Never understood the adulation.

Hendrix: You’re a tard.

The Beatles: Tard to the tard power.

The most overrated musician of all time is The Dross. He’s a total media phenomenon. None of his shit is worth listening to.

Posted by: Hammer Dog at January 27, 2024 08:09 PM (gf2Ru)

113 Over 100, so OT. Lambo Diablo formerly owned by President Trump sold for a cool $1 million at Barrett Jackson. Commentators said it was double the going rate for that Lambo.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (0EOe9)

114 vic

How are you doing?

And you figured it out when Gregorian Chants hit the top of the charts, right?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (u82oZ)

115 Rhapsody in Blue (grass)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DHPxRZFWQE

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (Q4KYm)

116 Huh. For whatever the link to the Afro article praising engineers isn't sticking. I guess I could do one of the other three, but I'm still shocked no one thought "hey, this isn't a great idea."

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (k1AR8)

117 The unique thing about rock and roll is that you don't have to sing well to be a star. Dylan can't sing is a given, but he was proclaimed a prophet. Bruce is horrible. Janice fingernails on chalkboard.

Posted by: iandeal at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (CVSBQ)

118 Dittoes to “actually inside the beltway” at January 27, 2024 07:53 PM. Here Comes the Sun established George Harrison as a bona fide songwriter. Abbey Road: my favorite Beatles album, and the first of their CDs that I bought loooong ago.

Posted by: dhmosquito at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (Ja40E)

119 You know, years ago once in a while you'd meet somebody who'd just say, "I don't like music."

Why don't you just do that, and save yourself a lot of time?
Is throwing the chairs around the whole point?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (zdLoL)

120 BTW, I never liked anything Dylan did. Even that album he did with Johnny cash s&cked.

Posted by: vic at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (A5THL)

121 That's a lot of goods in my post. Lol

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 08:11 PM (XMkZw)

122 Cold Play.

Awful.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 27, 2024 07:50 PM

Their best songs are iterations of the same one from the '90s.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 27, 2024 08:11 PM (4GLpL)

123 Fun fact: The Doors had no bassist

What?

Posted by: Ray Manzerak's Left hand at January 27, 2024 08:11 PM (xPl2J)

124 Comment 1. Oddly I listened to Gaga for the first time about 2 hours ago. Not impressed.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 27, 2024 08:11 PM (NETUM)

125 I tend to agree with "Sturgeon's Revelation", effectively that 90% of everything is crap.

Posted by: javems at January 27, 2024 08:12 PM (WSVNe)

126 BTW, I never liked anything Dylan did. Even that album he did with Johnny cash s&cked.
Posted by: vic at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (A5THL)

Dylan being a terrible musician and having no singing voice probably didn't help.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 08:12 PM (H5IZ1)

127 you know what I mean!

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:12 PM (geLO8)

128 Bleach by Nirvana is a very solid rock album as are a few songs from other albums, agree Pearl Jam Sucks.

Posted by: Captain Trout at January 27, 2024 08:13 PM (z7RNN)

129 I like Flash Cadillac.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 27, 2024 08:13 PM (zmjWB)

130 >>102 I saw an ad for the Stones 2024 concert tour. The ad was sponsored by AARP, so that tells you something.

Heh. The Steel Wheels tour in '89 was jokingly called the Steel Wheelchairs tour. Little did we know...

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 27, 2024 08:13 PM (n+WKq)

131 javems

Time does terrible things to musician's legacies.

Even Betthoven and Bach went though decades of lack of any appreciation.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:13 PM (u82oZ)

132 It is notable to me how, now that the goddam Baby Boomers -- and more importantly their cultural importance -- are finally starting to die off, there's been a sea change in how people listen to music.

We're no longer in lockstep, listening to this year's hits or the stuff by the band that did this year's hits when we got laid for the first time. I listen to classical, jazz standards, film soundtracks, 80s New Wave, renaissance and baroque. My kids have even more eclectic tastes -- all the stuff I listen to plus Mongolian heavy-metal throat-singing, old sea chanteys, shape-note singing, K-pop, French jazz, and probably a lot I don't know about.

In short, music is now a matter of personal taste, rather than commodified youthful rebellion or a substitute for a sense of identity. This is a Good Thing.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 27, 2024 08:14 PM (78a2H)

133 Is Wierd Al over/under rated?

Posted by: Jamaica at January 27, 2024 08:14 PM (Eeb9P)

134 Well they were decomposing.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 27, 2024 08:14 PM (zmjWB)

135 AZdeplorable , I second that.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 08:15 PM (bn3/b)

136 Workingman's Dead is probably their best album. And I was never a Deadhead.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 27, 2024 08:15 PM (L8hCM)

137 Even Betthoven and Bach went though decades of lack of any appreciation.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:13 PM (u82oZ)

I've been on a bit of a Bach kick lately. His violin and harpsichord concertos are really good.

Tchaikovsky is still the best, though.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 08:15 PM (H5IZ1)

138 In Janis Joplin's defense she probably knew she sucked but also knew her fans were out of their gourds on acid, pot and bell bottoms.

Posted by: Son of Dad at January 27, 2024 08:15 PM (8JB5s)

139 Trimegistus

That is a profound insight. It is true even among us shuffling ff the mortal coil boomers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:15 PM (u82oZ)

140 The Stones get my vote for most overrated band.

And I'm a chick who likes Rush. Not as much as Doof does. But I like them.

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 08:15 PM (i671v)

141 I knew the Beatles would be on the list.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 27, 2024 08:15 PM (rJ7Hd)

142 Where's the Berserker love, huh?

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 08:16 PM (bn3/b)

143 43 Aerosmith. ...... but most of their output has been generic and forgettable.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:49 PM (S6gqv)
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I read that as 'geriatric'.

Posted by: Ciampino - Discovered the US bands in 2000 at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM (qfLjt)

144 Salty yes they are

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM (fwDg9)

145 Hadrian,

I've always thought that Tchaikovsky was overplayed yet underrated.

I think Gould just had a schtick. Not that he wasn't an excellent pianist but he seemed very aware of projecting a marketable
outré persona.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM (3AwA+)

146 Where's the Berserker love, huh?
Posted by: Ben Had

Probably working in his shop!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM (zmjWB)

147 Why would anyone still listen to music on the radio? With all of the services you can get you can assemble a playlist or channel of whatever suits you and no commercials.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM (NBVIP)

148 How many rock bands have 20 to 30 songs that almost everyone can recognize? I'll wait for your answer .....

Answer: The Beatles.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM (Cwy/S)

149 Naughty Pine, how about Toni Braxton?
Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 08:03 PM

When she comes on the oldies station, I don't change the channel. But the last album of hers I listened all the way through was Pulse, which a friend lent me. How long ago was that?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM (4GLpL)

150 137 Wagner. Give it a six. Nice beat. Easy to dance to. Makes you want to invade Poland.

Zombie Dick Clark

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (0EOe9)

151 Hendrix was actually a damn good musician. I would have liked to see where he would have taken his music. I saw some documentary stuff on him where they interviewed his sound engineer. The stuff he put into his recordings was unique.

Janis Joplin is good precisely because she couldn't sing. She was a regular, screwed up, unsuccessful person who had the balls to get on stage and sing about it. There are some other acts in that category - people don't listen to them for musical talent, they listen for the emotional aspects.

Posted by: Penultimatum at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (1QSX/)

152 Vanya

*Fistbump*. My Dad strongly pushed the Russian classics, Debussy, Martin Denny, and Koto music from the Edo period. He was a real eclectic music loverr.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (u82oZ)

153 Azjaeger
Turn on the classical stations.
Truly timeless music

Posted by: MkY at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (cPGH3)

154 Doors are way over rated

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (fwDg9)

155 one bad thing about being >29, all the hot rock chicks of my formative years are all wizened dried out husks now

Joan Jett
Kate Pierson
Cindy Wilson
Linda Ronstadt
Shirley Manson
whatsername from Heart- the brunette

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (geLO8)

156 Yeah, we still listen to music from 50 or so years ago.

A band that's lasted the test of time, live, should still be able to take you on a journey (the mark of a good song and performance).

I give you such a performance:
ELO - Turn To Stone

http://tinyurl.com/2j4tr5ta

The audience is enjoying themselves. The band is tight and engaged. The production values are stellar.

And Jeff Lynne is in his fucking 70's...

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (TTAGa)

157 Is Wierd Al over/under rated?
Posted by: Jamaica at January 27, 2024 08:14 PM (Eeb9P)

Well he's a parody artist, so it depends on whether you like the jokes. It's like asking if Nanowar of Steel is good-- Well, do you think a heavy metal song about working in a big box home improvement store is funny? If so, yes. If not, no.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (H5IZ1)

158

Crown Lands are born storytellers, with eyes on this world and others. Painters of strange, absorbing universes. Advocates for the LGBTQ+ and indigenous communities. Counter-culturalists for the 21st century, informed by a cocktail of old-world thinking, science-fiction, and musical narrators from Rush to Paul Simon, Led Zeppelin to John Prine. It’s prog rock, but not as you know it – or as you thought it could be.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (63Dwl)

159 Trimegistus, I will agree, except I think the reason is that music is so much more available now. Albums were expensive and radio was limited; I didn't even have FM till I was a senior in college. Nowadays you can call up anything imaginable with a few seconds' search.

Posted by: skywch at January 27, 2024 08:19 PM (uqhmb)

160 I just heard a Taylor Swift song on the radio while driving.

Already forgot it. But her next song will be "My ex-Boyfriend Dropped a Pass on 4th and Goal."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:19 PM (u82oZ)

161 Weird Al is pro-rated.

Posted by: fd at January 27, 2024 08:19 PM (vFG9F)

162 >>The unique thing about rock and roll is that you don't have to sing well to be a star. Dylan can't sing is a given, but he was proclaimed a prophet.

Because of his songwriting. Probably the most covered songwriter in modern history.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 08:20 PM (ZLI7S)

163
Gimme a C
a bouncy C

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:20 PM (geLO8)

164 I've a theory that every musician or band is overrated.

We build them up way beyond their actual talent.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 27, 2024 08:20 PM (3CVIc)

165
Even Betthoven and Bach went though decades of lack of any appreciation.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:13 PM (u82oZ)

*polite cough*

Both were appreciated, if not widely performed. The "unrecognized genius" is largely a myth.

What's remarkable are the composers who were popular at the time who have now almost completely disappeared.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2024 08:21 PM (MoZTd)

166 Already forgot it. But her next song will be "My ex-Boyfriend Dropped a Pass on 4th and Goal."
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:19 PM (u82oZ)

Country breakup football songs:
"He Dropped the Pass and I Dropped Him"
"He Fumbled the Ball and My Heart"

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (H5IZ1)

167 I don't think I've ever heard a Taylor Swift song. What's her appeal?

Posted by: Megthered at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (yyACW)

168 I've a theory that every musician or band is overrated.

We build them up way beyond their actual talent.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 27, 2024 08:20 PM (3CVIc)

You can be the best and still be overrated.

Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (xPl2J)

169 155 Linda Ronstadt was a little hotty during the shacked up in the governor's mansion days. Jerry Brown was a pretty lucky guy at the time. Linda tried doing opera, but didn't quite have the range or the ability to lay on the coloratura. Stick with what you do best.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (0EOe9)

170
There are some other acts in that category - people don't listen to them for musical talent, they listen for the emotional aspects.

Posted by: Penultimatum at January 27, 2024 08:18 PM (1QSX/)

*Edith Piaf has entered the conversation*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (MoZTd)

171 @148

>>Answer: The Beatles.

They have twenty number one hits, 26 charting albums of which 14 went to number 1.

So apparently, a lot of people liked The Beatles.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (XV/Pl)

172 Time does terrible things to musician's legacies.

Even Betthoven and Bach went though decades of lack of any appreciation.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:13 PM (u82oZ)

I am a big fan of their selected (by me) works. Works for a lot of artists.

Posted by: javems at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (WSVNe)

173 > I don't think I've ever heard a Taylor Swift song. What's her appeal?

she's leggy
oh you mean to her fans

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (geLO8)

174
Gimme a C
a bouncy C
Posted by: Don Black

Love that Martin Short piano music!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 27, 2024 08:23 PM (63Dwl)

175 13 Yellow submarine, yellow submarine, yellow submarine.

Now, that's what I call a real song.

Posted by: Ronster at January 27, 2024 07:39 PM (6PzPj)
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Well
Black U-Boat, Black U-Boat, Black U-Boat
doesn't quite have the ring to it ......

Posted by: Ciampino - A teen in 1960 is different at January 27, 2024 08:23 PM (qfLjt)

176 And you figured it out when Gregorian Chants hit the top of the charts, right?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:10 PM (u82oZ)

I did not know I was supposed to hunt for that music.

Posted by: vic at January 27, 2024 08:23 PM (A5THL)

177
I don't think I've ever heard a Taylor Swift song. What's her appeal?
Posted by: Megthered

Carrying a torch for divorced white women.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2024 08:23 PM (MoZTd)

178 Posted by: skywch

Yes, Rush, one of the best 70s bands. I can and do listen to every album consecutively but no farther than the 80s ("Presto"), their attempts to do 90s and beyond mainstream were dismal.

FYI - they were one of the outspoken conservative/libertarian groups ("The Trees" is an example) in their prime, then turned stupid lefty as they aged so as to get into the RRHoF.

Posted by: Son of Dad at January 27, 2024 08:23 PM (8JB5s)

179 Postmodern Jukebox does excellent covers. Some of their singers are pretty hot.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:07 PM (u82oZ)

love that band, but the singers at their October show were decidedly not hot.

Posted by: DenverGregg at January 27, 2024 08:23 PM (ccqW3)

180 Hadrian the Seventh

I would stand abashed, but both were not in the hearts of music lovers for a while. Everyone knew they were appreciated, but not played.

Yes, the lesser talents are forgotten, except for NPR when they get quirky.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:24 PM (u82oZ)

181 Why would anyone still listen to music on the radio? With all of the services you can get you can assemble a playlist or channel of whatever suits you and no commercials.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM

I listen to the radio because the DJs have interesting things to say. But then I listen to the classical day/jazzy night station out of Detroit. They obviously love the genre they play.

The only service I listen to is Pandora because the ads aren't intrusive for the free version. Have something like 30 separate channels now.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 27, 2024 08:25 PM (4GLpL)

182 Early Linda Ronstadt was good but she went to sh&t fairly soon.

Posted by: vic at January 27, 2024 08:25 PM (A5THL)

183 In short, music is now a matter of personal taste, rather than commodified youthful rebellion or a substitute for a sense of identity. This is a Good Thing.
Posted by: Trimegistus

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Right up to the point where it isn't.

Similar to when Saturday morning cartoons became available all day every day and kids didn't self-regulate and go outside because adult TV is boring, or when things like Dallas' "Who Shot J.R.?" and movies of the week went away, we have very few common cultural similarities any longer. Nothing to gather around the water cooler over.

Don't misunderstand, I love that I can find my old Pailhead cassettes and 7" of the Garage Monsters doing Power House on youtube whenever I want, but I also remember the big-time radio rock ballads and sappy love songs of the time because I had to hear them.

People are losing that connection, and in 30 years there will be no or very little equivalent to "Man, I hated Paradise City when it came out, but that's kind of an interesting song."

Those circuits have been disconnected.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 08:25 PM (k1AR8)

184 ELO - Turn To Stone

http://tinyurl.com/2j4tr5ta

The audience is enjoying themselves. The band is tight and engaged. The production values are stellar.

And Jeff Lynne is in his fucking 70's...
Posted by: browndog
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great band, great tune, great performance

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 08:25 PM (i671v)

185 Eine Gelb Unterseeboot, eine Gelb Unterseeboot. Nah, this isn't going to work in the German market, Paul.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 27, 2024 08:26 PM (0EOe9)

186 Rod Stewart is a hard one. He doesn't have a great voice but he does great songs.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 08:26 PM (bn3/b)

187 Yah, Bob Dylan's been coasting on his reputation for about thirty years now.

I'm sure folks think the Doors are overrated, for me though they're great. Their first album is one of those that could have been recorded in the 60's or last week.

Wire is great. The Residents were great. French music consists of Magma and Metal Urbain and that's it.

The Clash are way overrated. And I'm keeping my civil tongue in my head about Zappa.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 27, 2024 08:27 PM (CHHv1)

188 I don't think I've ever heard a Taylor Swift song. What's her appeal?

-

Madonna, Britney Spears, etc. aged out and the industry needed a new model.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 08:27 PM (k1AR8)

189 My grade school student are united in their detain for Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber.

A friend told me today the younger female faculty in Montgomery County, MD public schools like them some Taylor Swift.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:27 PM (u82oZ)

190 "Bruce Springsteen is not to be confused with his solid band from the 1070s."

Not to be confused with Rick Springfield, either.

Posted by: davidt at January 27, 2024 08:27 PM (SYTee)

191
Do you listen to Harry Styles?

Do you know who Harry Styles is?

If you've answered "Yes", you may be a woman.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 27, 2024 08:28 PM (a3Q+t)

192 >Rod Stewart is a hard one. He doesn't have a great voice but he does great songs.

Posted by: Ben Had
---

check out his cover of Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Rock N Roller"

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:28 PM (geLO8)

193 >>In short, music is now a matter of personal taste, rather than commodified youthful rebellion or a substitute for a sense of identity. This is a Good Thing.

For some of us it always was.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 08:29 PM (ZLI7S)

194 CAN.

Posted by: Theodore at January 27, 2024 08:30 PM (pGonq)

195 great band, great tune, great performance
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 08:25 PM (i671v)

SiD...

For me, it's all right there at the end of the performance when the strings finish with a flourish and a smile.

They knew they hit it out of the park.

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 08:30 PM (TTAGa)

196 Have a great night, everyone.

May your favorite tunes be ear-worms that lull you to sleep.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 08:31 PM (u82oZ)

197 Do you listen to Harry Styles?

Do you know who Harry Styles is?

If you've answered "Yes", you may be a woman.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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No, and no. I hope this doesn't mean I need to transition.

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 08:31 PM (i671v)

198 Gamazda is a hot Russian blonde who does piano covers of classic rock songs.
She's on the UTubez.

Here's Bohemian Rhapsody

https://youtu.be/nV4wFBijcwQ

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 27, 2024 08:32 PM (NBVIP)

199 I have never heard of Harry Styles before tonight.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 08:32 PM (S6gqv)

200 Bob Dylan can't carry a tune to save his life.

Janis Joplin was a fad. Pretty much all acid rock was a fad with the exception of Innagaddadavida.

About the only Bob Server song I like is Fire Lake.

Like somebody already mentioned, I didn't get the Rolling Stones, either, and I was a big fan of the British Invasion.

The XO gave me the CD with all the Beatles' #1 songs. I listened to it and pretty much went "Yuck!" So many of their earlier albums were horribly misogenic.

And I swear if I hear one more version of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah I will scream. Anyone who thinks they are folk adjacent seems to feel obligated to record the damn thing.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at January 27, 2024 08:32 PM (O8QaP)

201 I think the only act I'm aware of that's pretty famous (you've seen him but don't know it*) and not only not overrated but wildly underrated is Jonathan Richman. What an amazing talent. He and Tommy still tour in a nondescript white van.

*
youtube.com/watch?v=_03dYaM7efc

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 08:33 PM (k1AR8)

202 The Rutles and The Dukes of Stratosphear.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 27, 2024 08:33 PM (63Dwl)

203 ELO played here at the performing arts center in Anchorage. Maybe20 years ago?. Great show.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 08:33 PM (XMkZw)

204 167 I don't think I've ever heard a Taylor Swift song. What's her appeal?
Posted by: Megthered at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (yyACW

She's in the middle of a AI nightmare at the moment.

She might actually end up the catalyst for laws banning all AI deepfakes.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 27, 2024 08:34 PM (3CVIc)

205 How many rock bands have 20 to 30 songs that almost everyone can recognize? I'll wait for your answer .....

Answer: The Beatles.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM

The Beach Boys.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 27, 2024 08:34 PM (a3Q+t)

206 For me, it's all right there at the end of the performance when the strings finish with a flourish and a smile.

They knew they hit it out of the park.

Posted by: browndog
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I'm listening to the full show now. I love ELO but have not listened in awhile. Suits my mood perfectly tonight. Thanks for the link :-)

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 08:34 PM (i671v)

207 They have twenty number one hits, 26 charting albums of which 14 went to number 1.

So apparently, a lot of people liked The Beatles.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 08:22 PM (XV/Pl)

And all their solo careers were very successful.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 08:34 PM (MNhXM)

208 Something by George Harrison, guy was underrated.

Posted by: Eromero at January 27, 2024 08:35 PM (NxC5+)

209 How many rock bands have 20 to 30 songs that almost everyone can recognize? I'll wait for your answer .....

Answer: The Beatles.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM

The Beach Boys.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 27, 2024 08:34 PM (a3Q+t)

Creedence Clearwater Revival

Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2024 08:35 PM (xPl2J)

210 Something weird. When I try to open Gateway Pundit I get this

"These are not the URLs you're looking for!"

Posted by: javems at January 27, 2024 08:35 PM (WSVNe)

211 This list of the overrated is the truest thing ever posted. The interwebs can be shut down now, Nirvana has been achieved.

Posted by: at January 27, 2024 08:36 PM (4w3I6)

212 One personal quirk I have about songs: I pay attention to lyrics. I'm a verbal person.

Which means it's like fingernails on a blackboard when a lyric is ungrammatical or incorrect. I don't mind any amount of "ain't got no" illiterate blues authenticity. I'm talking about lyricists who should know better. Jim Morrison using "for you and I" in Touch Me when he could have easily found a rhyme for "you and me" instead.

It also means I notice weird shit like the lyrics of Tom Petty's "Free Falling" which seems to be about some kind of Omega Man vampire apocalypse scenario.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 27, 2024 08:36 PM (78a2H)

213 Looking back, one of my favorite groups from the 60s and 70s was The Fifth Dimension. Just easy to listen to stuff, and Marilyn and Billy are reported to be some of the nicest people on Earth.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 27, 2024 08:36 PM (0EOe9)

214 I know who Harry Styles is like I know who Ru Paul is.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 08:36 PM (MNhXM)

215 I was heavy into rock n roll in the 60s and early 70s. The music started deteriorating toward the end of the 70s and had gone, completely to sh&t by the end of the 70s. It has never recovered. I don't even turn on the radio anymore. I still play music all day long nut it is all old sh%t.

My sons introduced me to some good stuff in the 2000's.

This became my favorite American band of the century.

https://youtu.be/Pn-6eOxnEMI?si=S6GrLPdpWdEP3tSC

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 27, 2024 08:36 PM (9yUzE)

216 No, and no. I hope this doesn't mean I need to transition.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 08:31 PM

Please don't. The World needs all of the feminine pulchritude it currently has.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 27, 2024 08:36 PM (a3Q+t)

217 The band Morphine consisted of a drummer, single string bass guitar and saxophone. "Low rock" it was coined. Singer,
Mark Sandman died of an heart attack on stage in Italy. Underrated and quite a loss.

Posted by: Son of Dad at January 27, 2024 08:36 PM (8JB5s)

218 French music consists of Magma and Metal Urbain and that's it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

I thought I was the only one here who knew about Magma.

Now that there's two of us, I guess they're overrated.

Posted by: mikeski at January 27, 2024 08:37 PM (DgGvY)

219 Creedence Clearwater Revival
Posted by: Mark1971 at January 27, 2024 08:35 PM (xPl2J)

AC/DC still gets clipped at sports venues all over the place. The opener of "Hell's Bells"? Come on.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 08:37 PM (H5IZ1)

220 Sure, you know me as a zoot-suited alligator, togged to the bricks and boots laced up, a hep cat who can cut a rug, a righteous gate who's a solid sender each and every set of seven brights (you do dig my jive, dontcha, buddy ghee, or are you one of those ickies straight off the cob?). Anyhoo, I also dig that long-hair stuff, Jackson. It's the mezz!

Posted by: Paco at January 27, 2024 08:37 PM (njExo)

221 Answer: The Beatles.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at January 27, 2024 08:17 PM

The Beach Boys.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

Elton John.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 27, 2024 08:37 PM (NBVIP)

222 >>I think the only act I'm aware of that's pretty famous (you've seen him but don't know it*) and not only not overrated but wildly underrated is Jonathan Richman. What an amazing talent. He and Tommy still tour in a nondescript white van.

I've heard of him.

http://tinyurl.com/s4bw8tus

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 08:37 PM (ZLI7S)

223 The only performer I would pay money to see is .....Lyle Lovett

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 08:37 PM (bn3/b)

224 @207

>>And all their solo careers were very successful.

Yep, they all had chart topping hits and albums as solo artists.

Apparently people liked The Beatles together and apart.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 08:38 PM (XV/Pl)

225 Back in the day we had season tickets at the PAC.
Dave brubeck, BB King. Victor Borga,

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 08:38 PM (XMkZw)

226 Linda Ronstadt managed operetta pretty well though. She was in a movie version of Pirates of Penzance. with Kevin Kline and Angela Landsbury.

Posted by: Lirio100 at January 27, 2024 08:38 PM (I5U35)

227 209 How many rock bands have 20 to 30 songs that almost everyone can recognize? I'll wait for your answer
……..

Weird Al.

Posted by: Zounds at January 27, 2024 08:39 PM (4w3I6)

228 The cool part about this video is - having made it big - they invited all the Indy bands they toured with on the way up to participated in the video. That's most of the guys lip-synching.

https://youtu.be/Pn-6eOxnEMI?si=S6GrLPdpWdEP3tSC

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 27, 2024 08:39 PM (9yUzE)

229 Jim Morrison using "for you and I"
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 27, 2024 08:36 PM

He traveled to the beat of a different drum.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 27, 2024 08:39 PM (a3Q+t)

230 The Arctic Monkeys have a pretty kickass sound. Not to make you feel old but they used MySpace to land their record deal.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 27, 2024 08:40 PM (VWZJU)

231 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4bUCMV2oCE

A little threading on Saturday night music.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 08:40 PM (H5IZ1)

232 Most overrated was Bjork

Billie Ellish is today’s Bjork though she doesn’t make me want to puncher my eardrums.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 08:40 PM (MNhXM)

233 Eine Gelb Unterseeboot, eine Gelb Unterseeboot. Nah, this isn't going to work in the German market, Paul.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 27, 2024 08:26 PM (0EOe9)

Maybe if Rammstein sang it.

Unter
Untersee
Unterseeboot
Ein Geld Underseeboot!
Ein Geld Underseeboot!
Ein Geld Underseeboot!

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2024 08:41 PM (D7oie)

234 "From another genre, three musicians I can't understand the fuss about:"
"- Maria Callas"
Granted, Callas tended to sing sharp, and some of her recordings are embarrassing, in particular her "Carmen". But she was a great singing actress. If you don't believe me, just go to YouTube and look at her performance in "Tosca", opposite Tito Gobbi as Scarpia. The haughtiness of the diva, her disgust at Scarpia's proposal, her fear as she sees the dagger, the determination as she screw up her courage and takes the dagger in hand; and the triumph when she finally drives it home: that is acting of a very high order. A mentor of mine saw her live at Chicago's Lyric Opera in "La Traviata", and said that she was pure electricity.

"- Glenn Gould"
Listen to his two recordings of the Goldberg Variations, one at the beginning of his career, the other at the end. Or his marvelous recording of the Emperor Concerto. The man was a great pianist, period.

"- Wilhelm Fürtwangler"
OK, he was Hitler's favorite conductor of Wagner. Other than that, meh.

Posted by: Nemo at January 27, 2024 08:42 PM (S6ArX)

235 https://youtu.be/Qgmh0BjLKVM?si=v7rohMnOQgNjFd5a

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:43 PM (geLO8)

236 The only performer I would pay money to see is .....Lyle Lovett
Posted by: Ben Had

---

I couldn't decided whether to say "I'll meet you there" or

Jonathan Richman (mentioned above) will probably play a $20 show nearby sometimes soon and it's worth going, especially if it's near Valentines Day. Those are always the best ones.

Forgive me if I've posted it before, but he wrote a song that might be just for you:

Since She Started to Ride

youtube.com/watch?v=a3Y7QUB9CgQ

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 08:44 PM (k1AR8)

237 Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2024 08:41 PM (D7oie)

The music video would be some horrifying thing where they all die in the end. One thing I'll say for Rammstein in the last few years, they pull zero punches in their videos and actually put a lot of work into them, for good or ill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thJgU9jkdU4

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 08:44 PM (H5IZ1)

238 @232

>>Most overrated was Bjork

Say what you want about Bjork at least she was original.

Billie Eilish is derivative, boring and one note.

She does have gigantic secret bazoombas though, which is a point in her favor.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 08:44 PM (XV/Pl)

239 I always said that Queen was a forgettable band, and this thread so far supports that notion.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at January 27, 2024 08:44 PM (a/7LW)

240 If you can perform on Car Karaoke or Live from Daryl’s House you are not overrated even if I don’t personally care for your music.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 08:45 PM (MNhXM)

241 223 The only performer I would pay money to see is .....Lyle Lovett
Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 08:37 PM (bn3/b)

Reasonable choice...

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 08:45 PM (TTAGa)

242 Having played bass in a Hendrix cover band, of course I disagree with that one.

All of the others in the list are pretty much accurate.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 27, 2024 08:45 PM (fv27Y)

243 Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 08:44 PM (XV/Pl)

Bjork is who Yoko thinks she sounds like.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 08:46 PM (MNhXM)

244 https://youtu.be/PTZYI5NR8wc?si=I_HM8PQ6JU8Hy_6m

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:46 PM (geLO8)

245 Hendrix didn't even write Hey Joe. He always sounded out of tune every live vid I ever saw of him. I think Joe South wrote Hey Joe.

Posted by: docweasel at January 27, 2024 08:46 PM (GFPQN)

246 If the goal was to piss people off, then you have succeeded. Otherwise, this is pointless. There is no good music or bad music. There's only what you like.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at January 27, 2024 08:46 PM (MZ+PY)

247
Or his marvelous recording of the Emperor Concerto. The man was a great pianist, period.

I have. That was my first hearing of the Emperor. Between the agonizingly slow tempo of the opening cadenzas and his humming, it hasn't held up well to me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2024 08:47 PM (MoZTd)

248 Thx CBD. Agree that Pearl Jam is overrated, though their first album was good. Their best song was State of Love and Trust, which is only on the Singles movie soundtrack. Nirvana had raw power in their songs but they got way over praised. STP was the best of the grunge movement. Whenever Interstate Love Song comes on when driving the volume goes to 11

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 27, 2024 08:47 PM (3noVV)

249 190 "Bruce Springsteen is not to be confused with his solid band from the 1070s."

Not to be confused with Rick Springfield, either.

Posted by: davidt at January 27, 2024 08:27 PM (SYTee)

He was on a Crusade or something.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 08:47 PM (ynpvh)

250 Watched a YT of Janis in concert. Her gratitude and joy for her audience is something you don't see much anymore.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at January 27, 2024 08:47 PM (os8zY)

251 yeah, STP won the grunge wars

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 27, 2024 08:48 PM (3CVIc)

252 https://youtu.be/Qgmh0BjLKVM
Posted by: Don Black

Surfin' Bird?

Here's the best Irish-folk-rock band's middle-eastern surf rock song ever:

https://youtu.be/CJsEYRvp6UM

Posted by: mikeski at January 27, 2024 08:48 PM (DgGvY)

253 Another vote for Bruce Stringbean as Most Overated. I would also put him at the top of the Easy to Hate list.

Posted by: Ex GOP at January 27, 2024 08:48 PM (qS8WV)

254 Hey Joe I thought was a much older Blues song, no idea who wrote it

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 08:48 PM (fwDg9)

255 Bjork is who Yoko thinks she sounds like.

Funny. I think of Wednesday Campanella as "Japanese Bjork."

Here's a Stargate-inspired video where she raps about golden rice being the key to world justice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOY7hh_KplE

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 27, 2024 08:48 PM (9yUzE)

256 Bruce Springsteen is not to be confused with his solid band from the 1070s."

Not to be confused with Rick Springfield, either.

Posted by: davidt at January 27, 2024 08:27 PM (SYTee)

I recently downloaded Springfield’s greatest hits.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 08:49 PM (MNhXM)

257 https://youtu.be/x8_xSZMTuKo?si=3c7uxJv-fGyWmQQ1

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:49 PM (geLO8)

258 Bjork with the Sugarcubes was a lot of fun. They wrote songs about meat and seeing people die in car crashes and then going home to eat snacks. Bizarre but fun.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 08:49 PM (k1AR8)

259 Feeling a weird hankering for Mozart's Requiem, especially the Lacrymosa, after four straight days of rain and fog.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 27, 2024 08:49 PM (mDkcm)

260 Prince wasn't overrated. That freaky little man could play any instrument and wrote more music that he ever got a chance to record.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 27, 2024 08:49 PM (3CVIc)

261 These posts don't piss me off.
I find them interesting without getting worked up.
To each his own.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 27, 2024 08:50 PM (XMkZw)

262 Isn't Billie Elish that weird chick whose songs all sound like she's speaking through a voice warbler?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 27, 2024 08:50 PM (3CVIc)

263 ... "Another ridiculously overrated act - Lady Gaga. Any decent southern country church had a soprano better than her in it."

I think you are (partially) wrong about this. Gaga is an enormous talent mostly wasted(?). Pull up and listen to some of her acoustic (piano) rendered songs - many border on sublime in performance IMHO.

She has a magnificent voice, a very talented songwriter and excellent piano player.

I do agree about the "Gaga" stuff though - but she chose that path. Too bad for us - she could have been a "Sinatra" level talent - or more - Frank didn't write or play.

She is also quite a looker when she isn't playing "Gaga".

My opinion.

Posted by: phaedrus at January 27, 2024 08:51 PM (E5FSX)

264 By the way, Joplin had a great live presence. Her performance on "Monterey Pop" of "Ball and Chain" is electric, though you have to ignore the terrible band that's backing her.

And Jimi Hendrix's best song was "Watchtower".

And the Beatles best album was "Revolver". Each song is a gem. Granted, it was as much George Martin as it was the Fab Four - the string quartet on "Eleanor Rigby" was his, including those final five chords that descend like the verdict of Fate - but listen to the lyrics for "For No One". This is the poetry of loss that is unforgettable.

Posted by: Nemo at January 27, 2024 08:51 PM (S6ArX)

265 The Zazzoff Boys. Right, Miklos?

Posted by: Eromero at January 27, 2024 08:52 PM (NxC5+)

266 257 https://youtu.be/x8_xSZMTuKo?si=3c7uxJv-fGyWmQQ1

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:49 PM (geLO

I'm not sure how to "gauge" this song. I give it a solid #8.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 08:52 PM (ynpvh)

267 I gained a lot of respect for Gaga after A Star is Born came out.

She really can sing and play. When she isn't wearing a meat suit.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 27, 2024 08:52 PM (3CVIc)

268 >>Jonathan Richman (mentioned above) will probably play a $20 show nearby sometimes soon and it's worth going, especially if it's near Valentines Day. Those are always the best ones.

Richman was from the Boston area and was a minor celebrity when I was growing up. His band the Modern Lovers played the local club circuit which was thriving back in those days. Some of his bandmates when off to play with The Cars and the Talking Heads.

If you didn't grow up in an area where club music was a big thing and all you had was the radio you got the same corporate music over and over. Not a surprise that some of that music seems overrated and tired because it got played to death.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 08:53 PM (ZLI7S)

269 > Isn't Billie Elish that weird chick whose songs all sound like she's speaking through a voice warbler?

Posted by: AlaBAMA
---

all I know about her is she has RBF in every photo, sports a fine set of jennifers, and bats for the other team

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:53 PM (geLO8)

270 Willard on Svengoolie. Awesome!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 27, 2024 08:54 PM (9yWhg)

271 It's Zappa.

Posted by: DOYLE at January 27, 2024 08:54 PM (Z8Yh2)

272 Alongside society's obedience during the COVID lockdown, Lady Gaga is the absolute pinnacle of peak societal stupid. The look, the canned digital noise, the packed stadiums. I've adjusted my outlook on the general citizenry accordingly.

Posted by: Son of Dad at January 27, 2024 08:55 PM (8JB5s)

273 192 >Rod Stewart is a hard one. He doesn't have a great voice but he does great songs.

Posted by: Ben Had

I put Tom Petty in that category. I've heard other musicians talk since his death, and it seems that his biggest talent was being a wonderful person to work with; he appears to have been one of the most respected band managers ever. That's why he could put together the Traveling Wilbury's.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 08:55 PM (S6gqv)

274 Aside from Evenflow, Pearl Jam sucks balls. Don't know how they got their own channel on Sirius, aside from being Bush-hating commie dickbags. Grunge winner is Soundgarden by a mile. Unless you count Alice in Chains as grunge, in which case they are king.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 27, 2024 08:55 PM (06/xc)

275 5 year old piano prodigy plays Mozart.

https://shorturl.at/bLM78

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 27, 2024 08:55 PM (9yUzE)

276 This column is hateful, racist and likely an atrocity.

Jimi is the GOAT. He was a prodigy - he picked up a guitar for the first time at 16 and was self-taught.
The next column will probably say Michelangelo sucked.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at January 27, 2024 08:56 PM (xaNfJ)

277 all I know about her is she has RBF in every photo, sports a fine set of jennifers, and bats for the other team
Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:53 PM (geLO

I think she likes dick. She’s had a few long term boyfriends.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 08:56 PM (MNhXM)

278 Bill in Arkansas,

I'll second that cheer for the 5th Dimension.

And I'll toss in Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 27, 2024 08:56 PM (a/4+U)

279 Janis would probably have been a personality in her later years, if she had survived drugs and gotten healthy. She was fun and humorous talking to Dick Cavett on his show. She was the type of woman who would have grown better looking as she aged, too. It's sad to read about how ugly people said she was.

Posted by: skywch at January 27, 2024 08:56 PM (uqhmb)

280 I recall a few decades ago having a friend who was a musician and an amateur paleontologist. I was stationed with him in the UK. Went with him once on one of his fossil collecting trips and we talked music. He told me that Springsteen would not stand the test of time. I disagreed. He said that in 15-20 years, I'd wonder what the fuss over BRUUUCCCEEEE was. Well, he was right. Bruce Springsteen was definitely overrated. I still like some of his songs but he's mostly meh. Steve Earle is more blue collar than Springsteen ever was, and Steve is a burned-out commie.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 08:56 PM (qKYfj)

281 Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 08:53 PM (ZLI7S)

You ever run across a band by the name of

James Montgomery Band

Bluesy...

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 08:57 PM (TTAGa)

282 Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust

Posted by: The Clash at January 27, 2024 08:57 PM (8sMut)

283 65- The Zenith of Music was a 20 year period between 1975 to 1995.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 07:54 PM

1972 was my favorite year.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 08:57 PM (rbKZ6)

284 274 Aside from Evenflow, Pearl Jam sucks balls. Don't know how they got their own channel on Sirius, aside from being Bush-hating commie dickbags. Grunge winner is Soundgarden by a mile. Unless you count Alice in Chains as grunge, in which case they are king.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 27, 2024 08:55 PM (06/xc)

Seems like this is a setup for:
I saw Commie Dickbags front for Bush at the Moscone Center in '98...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 08:58 PM (ynpvh)

285 >>Jimi is the GOAT. He was a prodigy - he picked up a guitar for the first time at 16 and was self-taught.

And one of his most well known songs was written by BoB Dylan.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 08:58 PM (ZLI7S)

286 Unless you count Alice in Chains as grunge, in which case they are king.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 27, 2024 08:55 PM (06/xc)

They may have started grunge, but never intended to.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2024 08:58 PM (D7oie)

287 That's why he could put together the Traveling Wilbury's.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 08:55 PM (S6gqv)

I thought that was Jeff Lynne's doing?

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 08:59 PM (TTAGa)

288 You know who is overrated?

Eric Clapton.

So is Jethro Tull, who is known for one single song: Aqualung.

So is Peter Frampton, who recorded one live album, made mad money off of it, and fucked off right around December 1975 and hasn't been seen since.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 08:59 PM (8sMut)

289 https://youtu.be/AalipGj0utc?si=6iRN9NQXnQ7a8IHe

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 08:59 PM (geLO8)

290 Jimi is the GOAT. He was a prodigy - he picked up a guitar for the first time at 16 and was self-taught.

-

(The entire Mississippi Delta has entered the chat)

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 08:59 PM (k1AR8)

291 I challenge anyone to pull up Jackie Evancho singing Ave Maria on America’s Got Talent and not get chills.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 08:59 PM (MNhXM)

292 Nick Cave has done a lot of really good stuff. He's also done some stuff that...isn't that great.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 27, 2024 08:59 PM (CHHv1)

293 @283

>>1972 was my favorite year.

Punk Music did not exist in 1972, so, Invalid.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:00 PM (XV/Pl)

294 On this day in 1756, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was born in Salzburg, Austria.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:00 PM (8sMut)

295 "Janis Joplin is a pretty run-of-the-mill blues rock (folk rock?) singer."

Are you out of your mind? She wasn't remotely pretty.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2024 09:00 PM (KAi1n)

296 Pearl Jams first album I loved. The rest after that was garbage. Nirvana's 'Nevermind' wasn't nearly as good as Alice in Chains 'Facelift' or Soundgarden's 'Badmotorfinger' or anything from Husker Du.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 09:00 PM (qKYfj)

297 >>You ever run across a band by the name of

>>James Montgomery Band

>>Bluesy...

Oh yea. Saw them a bunch of times. They used to play around the area all the time.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 09:00 PM (ZLI7S)

298 Underrated band: the Greek Chorus guy from There’s Something About Mary.

I’m at the age where I’d prefer Markie Post.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 27, 2024 09:01 PM (VWZJU)

299 275 5 year old piano prodigy plays Mozart.

https://shorturl.at/bLM78

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 27, 2024 08:55 PM (9yUzE)

Damn, the kid is amazing!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:01 PM (ynpvh)

300 Oh, and as a unreformed headbanger, I STILL cannot see the hype behind Nirvana. Never had, never will.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:01 PM (8sMut)

301 Are there even any popular music acts today with musicians playing instruments? Or is it all drum machines, synths, samples, and auto tuned singers?

Lotta new rock and metal bands here and all over Europe that are great, but just like back in the 70s and 80s, they aren't considered popular.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 27, 2024 09:01 PM (06/xc)

302 https://youtu.be/f3HpZNE1Z9k?si=QqbiDoh5pB1QzEfY

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:01 PM (geLO8)

303 Gone too soon was Amy Winehouse

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 09:02 PM (bn3/b)

304 241 223 The only performer I would pay money to see is .....Lyle Lovett
Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 08:37 PM (bn3/b)

Reasonable choice...
Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 08:45 PM (TTAGa)

I've seen him 3 times, each performance was completely different, and absolutely brilliant. 2 were with his Large Band, one was just him playing solo and talking.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:02 PM (S6gqv)

305 I like Alice in Chains
The band is good too

Just kidding

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 09:03 PM (fwDg9)

306 283- 1972 was my favorite year.
Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 08:57 PM

Oops- I posted too soon. I also was going to mention that I was driving the other day and listening to American Top 40 recounting the Top 40 songs of the year 1977, the year I graduated from high school. They were awful!! Does anyone remember "I Like Dweamin" by Kenny Nolan? "Undercover Angel"? "Torn Between Two Lovers"? UGH! I really thought the music was better at the time!

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 09:03 PM (rbKZ6)

307 303 Gone too soon was Amy Winehouse

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 09:02 PM (bn3/b)

She had pipes, but was an alcoholic druggie with self-destructive tendencies. She was supposed to do the song for that Bond movie that I think Adele did instead.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:04 PM (ynpvh)

308 303 Gone too soon was Amy Winehouse
Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 09:02 PM

Agreed.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 09:04 PM (rbKZ6)

309 287 That's why he could put together the Traveling Wilbury's.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 08:55 PM (S6gqv)

I thought that was Jeff Lynne's doing?
Posted by: browndog

Lynne, Petty, Harrison, Dylan, and it happened by accident, more or less. Struck gold when the late great Roy Orbison joined them. Can't remember who brought him in. Harrison maybe.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 09:04 PM (qKYfj)

310 https://youtu.be/hFredbE3goM?si=njA_Sip-XbVGtVqI

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:04 PM (geLO8)

311 Unless you count Alice in Chains as grunge, in which case they are king.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings

They may have started grunge, but never intended to.
Posted by: Kindltot

Three AiC references means I need to link to Drain STH, the Swedish Bikini Team of Alices in Chains.

https://youtu.be/rOCBhmPcCtI

Posted by: mikeski thinks that's the correct plural at January 27, 2024 09:05 PM (DgGvY)

312 @301

>>Are there even any popular music acts today with musicians playing instruments? Or is it all drum machines, synths, samples, and auto tuned singers?

Most of the acts in the Billboard top 100 are rap, pop and r&b, they are mostly made created in a computer although, there are songs here and there that feature live musicians, like Chad Smith of The Red Hot Chili Peppers doing live drums on Dua Lipa song.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:05 PM (XV/Pl)

313 40 Rush

The lead singers voice sounds like a strangled cat.

And every song sounds the same.
Boring and annoying.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 27, 2024 07:48 PM (dgvn5)

WIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!

"She's a witch, can we burn her???"

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:05 PM (8sMut)

314 I've seen him 3 times, each performance was completely different, and absolutely brilliant. 2 were with his Large Band, one was just him playing solo and talking.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:02 PM (S6gqv)

His sense of pacing / rhythm is off the charts...

I'd pay up to see either solo or with his Large Band.

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:05 PM (TTAGa)

315 Love Eric Clapton. General consensus is he's overrated. I don't care. Still a fan boy.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 09:05 PM (qKYfj)

316 And Jethro Tull's album Songs from the Wood is wonderful. So there.

Posted by: skywch at January 27, 2024 09:06 PM (uqhmb)

317 306 283- 1972 was my favorite year.
Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 08:57 PM

Oops- I posted too soon. I also was going to mention that I was driving the other day and listening to American Top 40 recounting the Top 40 songs of the year 1977, the year I graduated from high school. They were awful!! Does anyone remember "I Like Dweamin" by Kenny Nolan? "Undercover Angel"? "Torn Between Two Lovers"? UGH! I really thought the music was better at the time!

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 09:03 PM (rbKZ6)

Wife liked "Torn Between Two Lovers", but hated when I'd adlib the lyrics to:
Torn Between two Lovers,
STDs in bloom,
Loving both of you
a clinic visit soon...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:06 PM (ynpvh)

318 Good thing there is no dispute in matters of taste.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 27, 2024 09:06 PM (aD39U)

319 Will agree to all but Janis Joplin. Get it while you can, Try; To Love Somebody and, of course, Piece of My Heart - And so many more. And, Janis with the Full Tilt Boogie Band.

Vunerable when she sang, a real entertainer on The Tonight & Dick Cavett Shows, 1969 & maybe 1970, before she died.

Posted by: L - cutting it short, phone needs charging at January 27, 2024 09:06 PM (GshMh)

320 Hate the Beatles.
Hate Springsteen.
Like Janis. Her voice was raw power. Wouldn't even be allowed in a studio today because she didn't have the right look. Damn sight better than the generic female voices now.
Hendrix was doing shit with a guitar that no one else was doing and making it sound awesome while he was loaded.
Hate nirvana.
Like the Stones.
I like Veders voice but Pearl Jam songs mostly suck.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 27, 2024 09:06 PM (cRrcX)

321 JackStraw, did you ever see Susan Tedeschi?. She started in the Boston clubs.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 09:07 PM (bn3/b)

322 I get a little freaked out by young prodigies.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 27, 2024 09:07 PM (VWZJU)

323 79 I love music. All kinds of music. I listen to Mozart and Post Malone, Bb King and Clapton, Gershwin, Jimmy Buffett, Robert Johnson and Miles. I don't like every one of their songs but music feeds everyone's soul.
Posted by: Megthered at January 27, 2024 08:00 PM (yyACW)

Where's Pre Malone?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:07 PM (8sMut)

324 Oh yea. Saw them a bunch of times. They used to play around the area all the time.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 09:00 PM (ZLI7S)

He has a number of performances up on YouTube, but I'm still on the look out for "Schoolin' Them Dice"...

Really catchy tune, but it's from back in the early stages of his career.

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:07 PM (TTAGa)

325 By the way Prodigy was pretty cool.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 27, 2024 09:08 PM (VWZJU)

326 https://youtu.be/LujHv3vTNkY?si=464Eidf7w2CljZFb

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:08 PM (geLO8)

327 Jimi - Loved and still listen to
Red House, entire Band of Gypsies

Posted by: SonnyD at January 27, 2024 09:09 PM (4jtdv)

328 Speaking of the Traveling Wilburys, here's one of their tunes as performed by ELO at Wembley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfOzv4O5cHU

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 09:09 PM (i671v)

329 317- Wife liked "Torn Between Two Lovers", but hated when I'd adlib the lyrics to:
Torn Between two Lovers,
STDs in bloom,
Loving both of you
a clinic visit soon...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:06 PM

Oh jim! That put a tear in my eye. Such a great memory for you.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 09:09 PM (rbKZ6)

330 Posted by: nurse ratched at January 27, 2024 07:48 PM (dgvn5)

WIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!

"She's a witch, can we burn her???"
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:05 PM (8sMut)

Nope...she floats...like an Otter

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:09 PM (TTAGa)

331 Richman was from the Boston area and was a minor celebrity when I was growing up. His band the Modern Lovers played the local club circuit which was thriving back in those days. Some of his bandmates when off to play with The Cars and the Talking Heads.

-

If you haven't heard it, he performed a monologue at a show about why the band broke up after they went to play gigs in Bermuda. It's quite funny and insightful:

youtube.com/watch?v=w5tTW2UQIeQ

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 09:09 PM (k1AR8)

332 313 40 Rush

The lead singers voice sounds like a strangled cat.

And every song sounds the same.
Boring and annoying.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 27, 2024 07:48 PM (dgvn5)

WIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!

"She's a witch, can we burn her???"
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

GREATEST BAND EVER!!!!!

https://youtu.be/_MWzDKE4zbY?si=2oP4V2ebHDuTTWqd

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 09:10 PM (qKYfj)

333 The Harmonicats 2024 tour is gonna be lit! Good night , all.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 27, 2024 09:10 PM (0EOe9)

334 Eddie Vedder got the Cubs on track to win the World Series with his Game 5 rendition of Take Me Out To the Ballgame.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 27, 2024 09:10 PM (VWZJU)

335 322 I get a little freaked out by young prodigies.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 27, 2024 09:07 PM

It got me wondering- he can play like Mozart, but can he compose like Mozart? That's the true genius.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 09:11 PM (rbKZ6)

336 328 Speaking of the Traveling Wilburys, here's one of their tunes as performed by ELO at Wembley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfOzv4O5cHU
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 09:09 PM (i671v)

I'm so glad you're having fun with this concert tonight

***fist bump***

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:11 PM (TTAGa)

337 Also that Bermuda youtube link is possibly NSFW because he uses the S-word while quoting some lyrics.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 27, 2024 09:11 PM (k1AR8)

338 My favorite genre is what I call pop punk though some might disagree with some of the artists I include in that category.

Elvis Costello, The Cars, Talking Heads, Go-Gos , Blink 182, Sum 41 are just some

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:12 PM (MNhXM)

339 I don't listen to radio much anymore, but ever since I was in my teens, anytime a Springsteen song came in, I'd damn near drive off the edge of the road lunging for the radio dial to change it. What the fuck is he "The Boss" of anyway? Shit-voiced douchebags?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 27, 2024 09:13 PM (06/xc)

340 https://youtu.be/rK5UZvT9y_E?si=rsJi42ThRAwVaTs1

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:13 PM (geLO8)

341 Elvis Costello, The Cars, Talking Heads, Go-Gos , Blink 182, Sum 41 are just some

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:12 PM (MNhXM)

Not familiar with Sum 41, but the rest of the list is somewhere in my rotation...

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:14 PM (TTAGa)

342 Springsteen’s best song is the one he didn’t sing.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:14 PM (MNhXM)

343 BOC came out with a new album in late 2020 that has some good stuff on it and several songs that go over well in concert. It can be done but for most bands of a certain stature, they don't need to. See J. Priest. What's the point of a new album? It'll either be derivative or boring, and will push stuff people really want to hear off the set list.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2024 09:14 PM (KAi1n)

344 Thank you all. What a fun evening

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 09:15 PM (bn3/b)

345 https://youtu.be/CXfQYRjjxvc?si=X1ZGmxHyWgpt6vW9

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:15 PM (geLO8)

346 His sense of pacing / rhythm is off the charts...

I'd pay up to see either solo or with his Large Band.
Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:05 PM (TTAGa)

His solo performance was with 3 other great songwriters (John Hiatt, Joe Ely, and Guy Clark) and between songs they would converse about music with each other, and to the audience. During that Lovett would talk about venues and that he played 30 years before, and I realized he not only remembered perfectly every gig he ever played, but that he remembered every band that he ever shared a stage with, the order they played in that particular night, and the name of every member of every band he ever met, for his entire career. The guy has got an incredible mind, with a true photographic memory. (and he's very funny too, a true entertainer)

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:15 PM (S6gqv)

347 >> JackStraw, did you ever see Susan Tedeschi?. She started in the Boston clubs.

Only saw here once, Ben Had. She played a show at the Hatch Shell which is an outdoor amphitheater on the Boston Esplanade. I used to live right across the street.

She's great. Fun fact. Her family owns a chain of markets around the regions called Tedeschis. Or at least they did for many years. Not sure who owns them now.

I'd love to see one of her shows with her husband. They have a number of recordings on Youtube that are great.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 09:16 PM (ZLI7S)

348 Not familiar with Sum 41, but the rest of the list is somewhere in my rotation...
Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:14 PM (TTAGa)

They had one song that went big about 25 years ago.

Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 09:16 PM (H5IZ1)

349 I'm so glad you're having fun with this concert tonight

***fist bump***
Posted by: browndog
---
I may or may not be spinning around the dining room with a glass of wine...

*thump*
*crash*
*thud*

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 09:17 PM (i671v)

350 Not familiar with Sum 41, but the rest of the list is somewhere in my rotation...
Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:14 PM (TTAGa)

Blink 182 , Sum 41 , Avril Lavigne, etc probably known as skater music ( skateboard) but I still call it pop punk.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:17 PM (MNhXM)

351 1972 was a great year for rock, especially debut albums. Doors' last (post-Morrison doesn't count) and BOC's first.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2024 09:18 PM (KAi1n)

352 STP was pretty slick!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 27, 2024 09:18 PM (63Dwl)

353 239 I always said that Queen was a forgettable band, and this thread so far supports that notion.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at January 27, 2024 08:44 PM (a/7LW)

Five-year-old me has entered the chat.

I have vivid memories of the ladies who ran kindergarten/day care breaking out some albums of the day and playing them for the class. Key among these: the Flash Gordon soundtrack.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:18 PM (8sMut)

354 Workingman's Dead is probably their best album. And I was never a Deadhead.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

I'm going with American Beauty though W'sD is great.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 27, 2024 09:20 PM (KAi1n)

355 >>276 This column is hateful, racist and likely an atrocity.

Jimi is the GOAT. He was a prodigy - he picked up a guitar for the first time at 16 and was self-taught.

--
I saw documentary on electric guitars in which they pointed out Hendrix's genius. Apparently before him electric guitars were basically acoustic guitars amplified. He was the first (according to this doc) - to experiment with all of the different sounds the guitar could make beyond just amplification. After that the electric guitar was changed in how it was. played. Again this is what the doc explained for what its worth.

Posted by: Lancelot_link at January 27, 2024 09:21 PM (G+Jfs)

356 347: Derek Trucks is Susan Tedeschi's husband. He's the nephew of the late Butch Trucks of The Allman Brothers Band. Derek played on the last studio album (Hittin' The Note) put out by ABB. Was a member with them quite a bit with Warren Haynes as the other guitarist. That's quite the duo.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 09:21 PM (qKYfj)

357 Are there even any popular music acts today with musicians playing instruments? Or is it all drum machines, synths, samples, and auto tuned singers?

Lotta new rock and metal bands here and all over Europe that are great, but just like back in the 70s and 80s, they aren't considered popular.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings

Leprous (from Norway, since we're drinking like vikings), live in the studio, about a year ago:

https://youtu.be/8jZddRE_iHg

Should be popular, but aren't. Sad.

Posted by: mikeski at January 27, 2024 09:21 PM (DgGvY)

358 When I eat lots of beans, this song comes to mind...

https://youtu.be/3NE6X4IQNA4

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:22 PM (ynpvh)

359 last one
this the definitive version of "Hawaii 5-0"

by The Ventures

https://youtu.be/TJ3hv9a3tgU?si=6wHhjQ1raTU72hFO

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:22 PM (geLO8)

360 Queen, and specifically Freddie Mercury, knew how to entertain, that was always the focus of their music, and that was why they were one of the rare bands where their live performances were generally *better* than their albums. That was the basis of their popularity - for an example, of course Bohemian Rhapsody is schlocky, and over the top, and bombastic, but it also does all those things in a way that tens of millions of fans *loved* and wanted to hear over and over again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:22 PM (S6gqv)

361 I listen to the radio when I'm in the car, mostly short trips. I don't need to carry a soundtrack around with me. On Sundays, they do Casey Kaseem shows from the 80s, where I can hear lots of forgettable songs. And they have Kansas sports.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 27, 2024 09:22 PM (L8hCM)

362 47 Joan Baez...I 'd rather listen to a cat hollering in an alley

... Joan Baez was on #2 at Live Aid back in 1985 in Philadelphia.
The local nobody that came on first was equally ignored.
She was a 'has been' back then.

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:23 PM (RovqD)

363 ... (and he's very funny too, a true entertainer)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:15 PM (S6gqv)

Must have been how he landed Julia Roberts...

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:23 PM (TTAGa)

364 Classic Pop Dissected

Melanie RIP

So, just how did it come about that she had the new skates but he had the new key? Seems mighty suspicious.

Skate key.... another one the Kids Today can't understand. Like Croce's Operator. "You can keep the dime," such a poignant line... totally over the heads of the cell phone generation.

Posted by: mindful webworker - oh beautiful at January 27, 2024 09:23 PM (4m2f2)

365 348 Not familiar with Sum 41, but the rest of the list is somewhere in my rotation...
Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:14 PM (TTAGa)

They had one song that went big about 25 years ago.
Posted by: Vanya at January 27, 2024 09:16 PM (H5IZ1)

Almost they had two top hits in too deep and Fat Lip) and a few more in the top 100.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:23 PM (MNhXM)

366 359 last one
this the definitive version of "Hawaii 5-0"

by The Ventures

https://youtu.be/TJ3hv9a3tgU?si=6wHhjQ1raTU72hFO

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:22 PM (geLO

Oh yessss.
Was a kid watching the show. For some reason I was more than intrigued with the hula girls in the show intro...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:23 PM (ynpvh)

367 Pour a double Captain Morgan, a dollop of orange juice, and put on Supertramp. Loud. Eat some shrimp.

Posted by: Eromero at January 27, 2024 09:24 PM (NxC5+)

368 https://youtu.be/_MWzDKE4zbY?si=2oP4V2ebHDuTTWqd
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 09:10 PM (qKYfj)

THE NIGHT IS BLACK WITHOUT A MOON
THE AIR IS THICK AND STILL
THE VIGILANTES GATHER ON
THE LONELY TORCHLIT HILL

When I listen to this song, SO DO THE NEIGHBORS!!!!!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:24 PM (8sMut)

369 STP, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Jeff Buckley...all missed out on the Golden Years tours in their 50s...on account of the front men dying. Another way we Gen Xers get screwed.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 27, 2024 09:24 PM (YIxO9)

370 342 Springsteen’s best song is the one he didn’t sing.
Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:14 PM

Springstein in his early days had some great summertime sing-a-long bar songs with the E Street Band. "Rosalita" comes to mind. Everything else was dreck.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 09:24 PM (rbKZ6)

371 and he's very funny too, a true entertainer)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:15 PM (S6gqv)

Must have been how he landed Julia Roberts...
Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:23 PM (TTAGa)

He was the good looking one in that relationship.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:24 PM (MNhXM)

372 @351

>>1972 was a great year for rock, especially debut albums. Doors' last (post-Morrison doesn't count) and BOC's first.

I'll see your 1972 and raise you a 1978 with the debut albums of Van Halen, The Cars, Dire Straights, Kate Bush, The Police and Soundtrack from Grease was released including about 25 other dynamite albums from Elvis Costello, Devo, Blondie, Public Image, Kraftwerk, The Ramones, The Buzzcocks and many many more.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:25 PM (XV/Pl)

373 >>Derek Trucks is Susan Tedeschi's husband. He's the nephew of the late Butch Trucks of The Allman Brothers Band. Derek played on the last studio album (Hittin' The Note) put out by ABB. Was a member with them quite a bit with Warren Haynes as the other guitarist. That's quite the duo.

Yep.

Great song from Clapton, Steve Winwood and Derek Trucks, Can't Find My Way Home.

http://tinyurl.com/smdyh98j

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 09:25 PM (ZLI7S)

374 367 Pour a double Captain Morgan, a dollop of orange juice, and put on Supertramp. Loud. Eat some shrimp.
Posted by: Eromero at January 27, 2024 09:24 PM (NxC5+)

Supertramp...very playable!

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:25 PM (TTAGa)

375 >320. Like Janis. Her voice was raw power. Wouldn't even be allowed in a studio today because she didn't have the right look. Damn sight better than the generic female voices now

Janis was like that because she grew up on the Texas Gulf coast listening to blues belters from the Delta. And here's this tiny white girl bringing that music (Ball and Chain) and attitude to that amazing stew that was San Francisco's music scene in the late 60s, where you're have a rock band like Steve Miller and a jazz cat like Charles Earland on the same bill.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at January 27, 2024 09:25 PM (npRIq)

376 The songs that play constantly in my head are "Indian Summer" by Joe Walsh and "Thunder Island" by Jay Ferguson

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:26 PM (RovqD)

377 Derek Trucks is Susan Tedeschi's husband

Midnight in Harlem is a regular on my playlist

Posted by: SonnyD at January 27, 2024 09:26 PM (4jtdv)

378 Contextual analysis indicates many of you are over 29.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher, Ensign, UFP Starfleet at January 27, 2024 09:28 PM (a3Q+t)

379 378 Contextual analysis indicates many of you are over 29.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher, Ensign, UFP Starfleet at January 27, 2024 09:28 PM (a3Q+t)

Shut up weasley, so are you.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:28 PM (ynpvh)

380 I consider her best song was written by Kris Kristofferson!.
----------

The first time I heard Kris Kristofferson, I thought it was Ernest Tubb.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2024 09:28 PM (XeU6L)

381 @378

>>Contextual analysis indicates many of you are over 29.

The median age is around 58 give or take.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:29 PM (XV/Pl)

382 I wish I could play a guitar like Jose Ortega & Mariachi Ensemble in "My Love"

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:30 PM (RovqD)

383 After watching Documentaries on the Wrecking Crew and The Muscle Shoals Swampers it appears most of the bands that recorded in the America in the 60s and early 70s are over rated since those studio musicians created a lot of the sounds and riffs that made the songs memorable.

Posted by: Lancelot_Link at January 27, 2024 09:30 PM (xNeIs)

384 I will also mention that Warren Haynes is often overlooked as a great guitarist and singer. His band, Govt Mule, is pretty damn good.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 09:30 PM (qKYfj)

385 372 @351
I'll see your 1972 and raise you a 1978 with the debut albums of Van Halen, The Cars, Dire Straights, Kate Bush, The Police and Soundtrack from Grease was released including about 25 other dynamite albums from Elvis Costello, Devo, Blondie, Public Image, Kraftwerk, The Ramones, The Buzzcocks and many many more.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:25 PM

It's amazing how much musical tastes changed in just 6 years. The Saturday Night Fever soundtrack also charted in 1978.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 09:31 PM (rbKZ6)

386 I also listened to my Dad's and Grandma's music.
So 40's big bands and some 50's and 60's from Dad
Ragtime from Grandma.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:31 PM (ynpvh)

387 When I was in junior high, our music teacher allowed us to bring in albums and she'd play one track from a couple each period.

Except the day In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida was played.

Annnnnnnnd, that was the end of that.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 27, 2024 09:31 PM (cn09p)

388 380 I consider her best song was written by Kris Kristofferson!.
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The first time I heard Kris Kristofferson, I thought it was Ernest Tubb.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2024 09:28 PM (XeU6L)

I saw a blurb on him earlier today.

Supposedly a great amateur athlete, was an Army Ranger, and started in Nashville as a janitor...just so he could get an opportunity to have his songs heard.

I knew he was a Rhodes Scholar...

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:31 PM (TTAGa)

389 >>I will also mention that Warren Haynes is often overlooked as a great guitarist and singer. His band, Govt Mule, is pretty damn good.

And the circle is complete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGU0fhsxLYQ

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 09:31 PM (ZLI7S)

390 383 After watching Documentaries on the Wrecking Crew and The Muscle Shoals Swampers it appears most of the bands that recorded in the America in the 60s and early 70s are over rated since those studio musicians created a lot of the sounds and riffs that made the songs memorable.
Posted by: Lancelot_Link at January 27, 2024 09:30 PM (xNeIs)

iirc, the Eagles started out as Linda Ronstadt's studio band.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:32 PM (S6gqv)

391 After watching Documentaries on the Wrecking Crew and The Muscle Shoals Swampers it appears most of the bands that recorded in the America in the 60s and early 70s are over rated since those studio musicians created a lot of the sounds and riffs that made the songs memorable.
Posted by: Lancelot_Link at January 27, 2024 09:30 PM (xNeIs)

Just like painters, there are tens of thousands musical artists that are technically better than those considered musical stars.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:33 PM (MNhXM)

392 Anybody who ever wasted their money on the artists listed above is a dork.

I never spent a penny on any of these ass-clowns because everybody I know had always bought this shit so I didn't have to.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 27, 2024 09:33 PM (EEgXH)

393 For a great change up, try "Bailando" by Descemer Bueno
There is a great video of it on YouTube.

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:33 PM (RovqD)

394 @387 ... we had that too. BJ brought in W.A.S.P. Mrs Wilkinson didn't care much for Fuck Like a Beast.

Man the 80s were great.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 27, 2024 09:33 PM (YIxO9)

395 Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:31 PM (TTAGa)

Don’t forget helicopter pilot.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:34 PM (MNhXM)

396 WIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!

"She's a witch, can we burn her???"
Posted by: atch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:05 PM (8sMut)

the purpose of Progressive Rock was to whittle away at the same motif for the full 60 minutes of the double album. Some people don't see the purpose when The Dead Milkmen can do the same thing in two minutes and fifteen seconds.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2024 09:34 PM (D7oie)

397 Ernest Tubb was a road scholar?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 27, 2024 09:34 PM (63Dwl)

398 386 I also listened to my Dad's and Grandma's music.
So 40's big bands and some 50's and 60's from Dad
Ragtime from Grandma.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:31 PM (ynpvh)

My ex, when she was a wee lass, had a babysitter who turned out out to be a crazy good stride piano player.

Even in her 80's when I met her, she could move that left hand back and forth over the keys.

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:35 PM (TTAGa)

399 @385

>>It's amazing how much musical tastes changed in just 6 years. The Saturday Night Fever soundtrack also charted in 1978.

As I said up thread, 1975 was really the beginning of a 20 year cycle of the most creative and dynamic period of music in the history of the country.

As I said, Punk, Metal, Rap, Synth Pop, Industrial, Grunge and many other genres, sub-genres and sub-sub-genres of music did not exist before 1975.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:35 PM (XV/Pl)

400 I do love The Cars 1 &2

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 09:35 PM (fwDg9)

401 Trismegistus (#212):
Ungrammatical lyrics? What if they're grammatical as sung but the written version in the booklet is ungrammatical? In "Here's a quarter, call someone who cares", Travis Tritt rhymes the title line with "you and your sordid affairs".

At least I hope that's what he's singing. The booklet gives "you and your sorted affairs". Did he write it that way, or did his publisher hire someone to listen and write down the words? It is an interesting misreading: made we wonder if the woman he's dumping has so many lovers her little black book is actually a card file, Excel spreadsheet, or MySQL database, with categories for "money, no looks", "looks, no money", and "looks AND money".

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at January 27, 2024 09:35 PM (uL3GK)

402 390 383 After watching Documentaries on the Wrecking Crew and The Muscle Shoals Swampers it appears most of the bands that recorded in the America in the 60s and early 70s are over rated since those studio musicians created a lot of the sounds and riffs that made the songs memorable.
Posted by: Lancelot_Link at January 27, 2024 09:30 PM (xNeIs)

iirc, the Eagles started out as Linda Ronstadt's studio band.
Posted by: Tom Servo

The Band was backing up Bob Dylan. Toto was a bunch of session musicians.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 09:36 PM (qKYfj)

403 I also listened to my Dad's and Grandma's music.
So 40's big bands and some 50's and 60's from Dad
---------

I still think of Guy Mitchell now and then.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2024 09:36 PM (XeU6L)

404 Silver Wings. Merle Haggard.

Posted by: Eromero at January 27, 2024 09:36 PM (NxC5+)

405 It goes from St Louis
down thru Missouri
Oklahoma City looks oh so pretty
you'll see Amarillo
and Gallup New Mexico
Flagstaff Arizona
don't forget Winona
Kingman Barstow
San Bernadino

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:37 PM (geLO8)

406 Dwayne Allman did lots of session work. Ry Cooder too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 27, 2024 09:38 PM (qKYfj)

407 There was a movie supposedly about Janis, wasn't there? I think "Rose" was in the title? And Bette Midler played Joplin?

Bette Midler's name hasn't come up. Where does she fit in?

Posted by: Wenda at January 27, 2024 09:38 PM (wJ0Sm)

408 I have all of my dad’s albums he got in the 50’s and 60’s.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:38 PM (MNhXM)

409 The dissing of all those musicians reminds me of commenters criticizing Mannix's girlie links. "Her belly button isn't symmetrical- would not bang."
🤣

Posted by: mindful webworker - what belly button? (.)(.) at January 27, 2024 09:38 PM (4m2f2)

410 the purpose of Progressive Rock was to whittle away at the same motif for the full 60 minutes of the double album. Some people don't see the purpose when The Dead Milkmen can do the same thing in two minutes and fifteen seconds.
Posted by: Kindltot

"Was?" It's still around. Here's a track from last September.

https://youtu.be/qbGkZ31Fmp8

Posted by: mikeski at January 27, 2024 09:38 PM (DgGvY)

411 My ex, when she was a wee lass, had a babysitter who turned out out to be a crazy good stride piano player.

Even in her 80's when I met her, she could move that left hand back and forth over the keys.
Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:35 PM (TTAGa)

A lot of oldtimers had great talent - I remember, and was sad I only got to hear it a couple times, but my grandmother who passed when I was about 13 could sit down and play ragtime off the top of her head like crazy. She never learned how to read music, either, she just played, and I remember it was amazing. all just by memory, or improvised on the fly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:38 PM (S6gqv)

412 CBD = Click-Bait Douchebaggery (at least in this post). But hey, I clicked.

Posted by: Dagwood at January 27, 2024 09:38 PM (CC0N1)

413 Booker T and the MGs was a studio band

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:39 PM (geLO8)

414 393 For a great change up, try "Bailando" by Descemer Bueno
There is a great video of it on YouTube.

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:33 PM (RovqD)

My wife loved her Mexican music. Mostly Mexican Pop starting in the 1980s.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:40 PM (ynpvh)

415 I saw documentary on electric guitars in which they pointed out Hendrix's genius. Apparently before him electric guitars were basically acoustic guitars amplified. He was the first (according to this doc) - to experiment with all of the different sounds the guitar could make beyond just amplification. After that the electric guitar was changed in how it was. played. Again this is what the doc explained for what its worth.
Posted by: Lancelot_link at January 27, 2024 09:21 PM (G+Jfs)

There had been some other performers that had the "fuzz-tone" as a feature, but I think Hendrix was trying to use it as drum set, too.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2024 09:40 PM (D7oie)

416 >Bette Midler's name hasn't come up. Where does she fit in?

Posted by: Wenda
---

she fits in a refrigerator carton

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:40 PM (geLO8)

417 She never learned how to read music, either, she just played, and I remember it was amazing. all just by memory, or improvised on the fly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:38 PM (S6gqv)

Yep...

That was Gall. No sheet music, just an ear.

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:40 PM (TTAGa)

418 >>The Band was backing up Bob Dylan. Toto was a bunch of session musicians.

Kind of a different world back then before the record companies corporatized the music world. Many of them were friends and played together and sat in with each other.

Fun movie of the early days.

http://tinyurl.com/4cvj34tk

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 09:41 PM (ZLI7S)

419 My wife loved her Mexican music. Mostly Mexican Pop starting in the 1980s.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:40 PM (ynpvh)

Selena?

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:41 PM (MNhXM)

420 Can't believe I just saw this post. I saw Janis Joplin in a small auditorium at Fitchburg State College. She was amazing.
I also saw Jimi Hendrix live and he sucked.
I saw Springsteen live and best song was Dancin in the Dark. He played for such a long time(E Street Band days with Clarence Clemons) I just wanted to go home and go to bed.
I went to a little college in Worcester MA that had a little 500seat theatre. Jefferson Airplane, Hendrix, Jackson Brown, the Grateful Dead, Ray Charles and more all played the venue. Had to move the concert to Holy Cross to accommodate The Who.
So many stories....

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2024 09:41 PM (t/2Uw)

421 Steve Cropper and Donald ‘Duck’ Dunn.

Posted by: Eromero at January 27, 2024 09:42 PM (NxC5+)

422 Bette Midler's name hasn't come up. Where does she fit in?
Posted by: Wenda

Any gay bathhouse in Key West, Provincetown, Castro District, etc.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 27, 2024 09:42 PM (cn09p)

423 I will also mention that Warren Haynes is often overlooked as a great guitarist and singer.

Totally agree.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 27, 2024 09:42 PM (V8he0)

424 I remember a time in the early 70s when Black Sabbath and BOC were controversial. Fucking devil music for grade schoolers.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 27, 2024 09:42 PM (EEgXH)

425 Heh. Started a Ewetoob vid and there was a Statefarm commercial where there was a water leak in the home, and someone said, "This is ludicrous!" and Ludacris pops up...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:42 PM (ynpvh)

426 400 I do love The Cars 1 &2
Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 09:35 PM (fwDg9)

I think Cars 1 is one of the most perfectly constructed albums I've ever listened to; and by that I mean every song flows seamlessly into the next, and although each individual song is great, the Sum is much greater than its parts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 09:42 PM (S6gqv)

427 Aerosmith and The doors are crap to me. Pearl Jams first was pretty good. After that. Nope

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 27, 2024 09:42 PM (EhIpK)

428 I wonder how many do their aerobic exercise to Momoland

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:43 PM (RovqD)

429 though Johnny cash used the guitar as a percussion instrument also, Hendrix was using it like a full drum set.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2024 09:43 PM (D7oie)

430 >The dissing of all those musicians reminds me of commenters criticizing Mannix's girlie links. "Her belly button isn't symmetrical- would not bang."

oh we're just joking around with that
but many of the artists mentioned above do in fact suck, and that is a scientific fact

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:43 PM (geLO8)

431 Sadly mistaken about the Beatles. Watch some videos of serious music experts doing a deep dive on the music they made between 1966and 1970. Some of the finest musical compositions ever. I started out a Paul guy as a child, grew into a John fan in college before transitioning to a George fan for a few year. As I go older I returned to being a Paul fan again. Absolutely brilliant songwriting for about a 10 year period in time. I think John was being grounded into a real songwriter by Paul's influence. Meanwhile George was all his own writer, just not quite as good.
I didn't mention Ringo on purpose - a great drummer, but there are many of those.

Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 09:43 PM (bkbx3)

432 Another RIP: Mary Weis, the fabulous lead singer of the 60's (teen) group The Shangri-las. Btw, all of the girls in the group were Jewish.

Posted by: L - cutting it short, phone needs charging at January 27, 2024 09:43 PM (GshMh)

433 ...non est disputandum.

End of story.

Posted by: De gustibus.... at January 27, 2024 09:44 PM (RyDQ3)

434 23 Tina Turner and Anita .Baker.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2024 07:42 PM (bn3/b)

Overrated? I'd say that Anita is underrated, if anything.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2024 09:44 PM (vWWqj)

435 >I remember a time in the early 70s when Black Sabbath and BOC were controversial. Fucking devil music for grade schoolers.
---

remember when Beavis & Butthead was thought to be a harbinger of the apocalypse?

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:44 PM (geLO8)

436 And Jimi was left handed playing a right handed guitar

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 09:45 PM (fwDg9)

437 ... As I go older I returned to being a Paul fan again. Absolutely brilliant songwriting for about a 10 year period in time. I think John was being grounded into a real songwriter by Paul's influence. Meanwhile George was all his own writer, just not quite as good.
I didn't mention Ringo on purpose - a great drummer, but there are many of those.
Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 09:43 PM (bkbx3)

Agreed on this. George only started writing songs after he became a Beatle; John and Paul had years on him by then. He did learn, however. I think their most enduring songs are his.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2024 09:47 PM (vWWqj)

438 419 My wife loved her Mexican music. Mostly Mexican Pop starting in the 1980s.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:40 PM (ynpvh)

Selena?

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:41 PM (MNhXM)

Julio Iglesias, Enrique Iglesias (his son), Mana, Alejandra Guzman, Mecano, and on and on.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:47 PM (ynpvh)

439 I didn't mention Ringo on purpose - a great drummer, but there are many of those.
Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 09:43 PM (bkbx3)

You know it don't come easy

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 27, 2024 09:47 PM (EhIpK)

440 I like Ringo’s solo hits better than John’s solo hits.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:48 PM (MNhXM)

441 Saw Bruce with E-Street Band live twice - once New Year’s Eve at Tower Theater in Yeadon PA. Pure energy and amazing. Sucked after that. Peaked early, and agree, his “backup” carried him, and asshole he was he fucked them over, first his Sax Man. He should be slowly tortured in a Gulag and be unceremoniously and anonymously buried once he’s one. Maybe I’ll tell you how I really feel later.

Posted by: epador at January 27, 2024 09:48 PM (TRnzq)

442 422 Bette Midler's name hasn't come up. Where does she fit in?
Posted by: Wenda

Any gay bathhouse in Key West, Provincetown, Castro District, etc.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 27, 2024 09:42 PM (cn09p)

Being chased by a Japanese whaling vessel.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:48 PM (ynpvh)

443 Eleanor Rigby might just be my #1 Pop song of all time. The more I listen to it the more I find in it.

Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 09:48 PM (bkbx3)

444 No ome mentioned reggae? Top of my list is Bob Marley at the Music Hall in Boston before he shot his toe. Think I was in the 3rd row. It was like a religious experience.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2024 09:49 PM (t/2Uw)

445 There was a great interview with George Harrison from some years before he died on YouTube about putting together a song he owed his label.
In the process, he managed to get Tom Petty, Jeff Lyne and Bob Dylan to help out. (Pretty sure this was before the Traveling Wilburys) The label thought it was too good to just fulfill his requirement.

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:49 PM (RovqD)

446 I think Cars 1 is one of the most perfectly constructed albums I've ever listened to; and by that I mean every song flows seamlessly into the next, and although each individual song is great, the Sum is much greater than its parts.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Moody Blues. In Search of the Lost Chord.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 27, 2024 09:50 PM (i75mC)

447 399- As I said........

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:35 PM

I think I was noting and agreeing with your comments upthread...?

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 09:50 PM (rbKZ6)

448 Posted by: Dagwood at January 27, 2024 09:38 PM (CC0N1)

Try to use grown-up words to refute my points.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2024 09:50 PM (gSZYf)

449 @443

>>Eleanor Rigby might just be my #1 Pop song of all time. The more I listen to it the more I find in it.

You know, I can't really name one favorite Beatles song, I kind of celebrate them all, I am Beatles fan, I really am.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:50 PM (XV/Pl)

450 443 Eleanor Rigby might just be my #1 Pop song of all time. The more I listen to it the more I find in it.

.. I've come to wonder if this wasn't a George Martin song performed by the Beatles.

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:51 PM (RovqD)

451 449 @443

>>Eleanor Rigby might just be my #1 Pop song of all time. The more I listen to it the more I find in it.

You know, I can't really name one favorite Beatles song, I kind of celebrate them all, I am Beatles fan, I really am.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:50 PM (XV/Pl)

There's always the Phone Company song...
Michelle, Ma Bell...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:51 PM (ynpvh)

452 Bette Midler's name hasn't come up. Where does she fit in?
Posted by: Wenda

Demanding to see the manager

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2024 09:51 PM (D7oie)

453 No ome mentioned reggae? Top of my list is Bob Marley at the Music Hall in Boston before he shot his toe. Think I was in the 3rd row. It was like a religious experience.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2024 09:49 PM (t/2Uw)

The Bob Marley movie recently released. I forgot the title.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:51 PM (MNhXM)

454 The Cars would be on an all-time under-rated list. Along with Elvis Costello and XTC

Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (bkbx3)

455 >>No ome mentioned reggae? Top of my list is Bob Marley at the Music Hall in Boston before he shot his toe. Think I was in the 3rd row. It was like a religious experience.

Big fan. Not just of Marley but of reggae in general.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (ZLI7S)

456 453 No ome mentioned reggae? Top of my list is Bob Marley at the Music Hall in Boston before he shot his toe. Think I was in the 3rd row. It was like a religious experience.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2024 09:49 PM (t/2Uw)

The Bob Marley movie recently released. I forgot the title.

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:51 PM (MNhXM)

Sorry, I've never toked.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (ynpvh)

457 @447

>>I think I was noting and agreeing with your comments upthread...?

Don't mind me, I come across as a screachy dick most times.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (XV/Pl)

458 Barry Manilow made Bette Midler famous.

He & her backup singers, the Harlets.

Posted by: L - cutting it short, phone needs charging at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (GshMh)

459
Moody Blues. In Search of the Lost Chord.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 27, 2024 09:50 PM (i75mC)

I've said this before...

M/B are a very underrated band.

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (TTAGa)

460 From that era I also liked Styx and ELO.
Now I like symphonic metal, with as little throat clearing as possible and with a female vocalist. Bands Epica and Nightwish as very good examples.

Posted by: Ciampino - I don't know about them at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (qfLjt)

461 Weird story popped up on my Newsbreak feed . It's seems that EU president Van Der Layen had a prize pony. It was eaten by a wolf. Now they are trying to hit and kill the wolf. Tragic about the pony , but leave the wolf alone. And Van Der Layen is a miserable creature

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (3noVV)

462 413 Booker T and the MGs was a studio band
Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:39 PM (geLO

. . . and a damn fine one. they also were the core of the band in the 1980 Blues Brothers movie.

Posted by: DenverGregg at January 27, 2024 09:53 PM (ccqW3)

463 I detest reggae

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 09:53 PM (fwDg9)

464 461 Weird story popped up on my Newsbreak feed . It's seems that EU president Van Der Layen had a prize pony. It was eaten by a wolf. Now they are trying to hit and kill the wolf. Tragic about the pony , but leave the wolf alone. And Van Der Layen is a miserable creature

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (3noVV)

Wolf vs. Van der Layen:
Two enter, one comes out...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:53 PM (ynpvh)

465 When searching for one of the weirdest songs ever, you have to include "Spill The Wine" by Eric Burdon & The Animals

It seems everybody knows where they were when they heard this song.

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:54 PM (RovqD)

466 So I'm watching the concert film of ELO at Wembley with some commentary from Jeff Lynne et al. in between every few songs. Unfortunately I can't listen to British musicians talk any more without thinking of Spinal Tap and expecting to hear about spontaneously combusting drummers at any moment. So whatever they say is bound to be a disappointment.

'rons will appreciate the rack on the female singer though.

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 09:54 PM (i671v)

467 @451

>>There's always the Phone Company song...
Michelle, Ma Bell...

I'm kind of partial to Martha My Dear, it's really fun to play on the piano, that and Lady Madonna, you can really dig into those tunes on the keys.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:54 PM (XV/Pl)

468 456- Sorry, I've never toked.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM

Agreed. Marley was never my cup of tea.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 09:54 PM (rbKZ6)

469 America didn’t suck except when they did Muskrat Love.

WTH? How does that song get recorded three different times?

Posted by: Cobalt Blue at January 27, 2024 09:54 PM (MNhXM)

470 >>450 443 Eleanor Rigby might just be my #1 Pop song of all time. The more I listen to it the more I find in it.

.. I've come to wonder if this wasn't a George Martin song performed by the Beatles.

He really was a key part of the whole operation. I think both influenced each other pretty heavily.

Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 09:54 PM (bkbx3)

471 'rons will appreciate the rack on the female singer though.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 09:54 PM (i671v)

And she's been with the band for a while too.

#eyecandy

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:55 PM (TTAGa)

472 Just finished seeing Disney's "Tarzan" cartoon movie.

Someone (maybe Lizzy0 had recently seen it and said the music was good.

I didn't remember seeing it so I thought I'd give it a try.

The difference between this and most Disney cart own musicals is that none of the characters sang. They used Phil Collins singing/songs as a kind of Greek chorus to give emotional context to what was happening. Interesting idea.

I enjoyed "Tarzan' a lot Good songs. Very good Story. Excellent animation.

BONUS! Probably the last time Disney tried to make entertainment for sane human beings. The story was about family, growing into an adult, and a nice romance between a man and a woman. You know, important relatable stuff.

Give it a look. Well worth it. And it seems to be treated like the red headed stepchild of Wokeified Disney.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 27, 2024 09:55 PM (nFnyb)

473 .. I've come to wonder if this wasn't a George Martin song performed by the Beatles.

He really was a key part of the whole operation. I think both influenced each other pretty heavily.
Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 09:54 PM (bkbx3)

Bingo...

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:55 PM (TTAGa)

474 Weird story popped up on my Newsbreak feed . It's seems that EU president Van Der Layen had a prize pony. It was eaten by a wolf. Now they are trying to hit and kill the wolf. Tragic about the pony , but leave the wolf alone. And Van Der Layen is a miserable creature
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 27, 2024 09:52 PM (3noVV)

That happened a year or so ago, and now the EU is trying to move forward on culling wolves to protect farmers. Apparently the Glorious Leader decided to rewrite the rules to allow it and her green supporters are all upset about it.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2024 09:55 PM (D7oie)

475 The Animals' Sky Pilot was an unusual song too. I liked them even as a kid.

Posted by: skywch at January 27, 2024 09:55 PM (uqhmb)

476 @444 aside from Marley, the best reggae album (and a great album no matter what genre) is the soundtrack from The Harder They Come.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 27, 2024 09:56 PM (3noVV)

477 463 I detest reggae

There is some good reggae

One song I love to listen to "Identify Yourself" by Inner Circle (the guys who did "Bad Boys")

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:56 PM (RovqD)

478 405 It goes from St Louis
down thru Missouri
Oklahoma City looks oh so pretty
you'll see Amarillo
and Gallup New Mexico
Flagstaff Arizona
don't forget Winona
Kingman Barstow
San Bernadino
Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:37 PM (geLO

Depeche Mode did a wicked cover of this song.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:57 PM (8sMut)

479 In the right place at the right time Bob Marley can be magical. I would never just play his music on my own. But damn if it hits me at the right time it can be perfect.

Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 09:57 PM (bkbx3)

480 Tonight's launch from NZ is moved to 28th.

Posted by: Ciampino - I don't know about those at January 27, 2024 09:57 PM (qfLjt)

481 Depeche Mode did a wicked cover of this song.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:57 PM (8sMut)

Really...

***goes to look it up***

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 09:57 PM (TTAGa)

482 Thank you CBD for another fun thread. the Music Thread is *never* overrated!

Thank you browndog for cheering me up with some ELO.

I'm saving Mr Blue Sky for tomorrow in hopes of seeing him then.

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 09:58 PM (i671v)

483 Surprised Jefferson Airplane / Starship and Grace Slick haven't been mentioned.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 27, 2024 09:58 PM (MIKMs)

484 >Depeche Mode did a wicked cover of this song.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

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I have the Rolling Stones version

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:58 PM (geLO8)

485 though I understand von der Leyen's concern, her being the Grandmother and all

Posted by: Kindltot at January 27, 2024 09:58 PM (D7oie)

486 @473

>>Bingo...

Let's not get it twisted, The Fab Four were musical and writing geniuses, Martin directed that energy and was able to take the musical ideas they were crafting and make them a reality.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 27, 2024 09:58 PM (XV/Pl)

487 Nood

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2024 09:58 PM (u82oZ)

488 478 405 It goes from St Louis
down thru Missouri
Oklahoma City looks oh so pretty
you'll see Amarillo
and Gallup New Mexico
Flagstaff Arizona
don't forget Winona
Kingman Barstow
San Bernadino
Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:37 PM (geLO

Depeche Mode did a wicked cover of this song.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 09:57 PM (8sMut)

Younger brother was big-time into Depeche Mode...
"Personal Jesus"
"Policy of Truth"
"Enjoy the Silence"
...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 09:58 PM (ynpvh)

489 ONT is NOOD.

https://youtu.be/kkGioi9cJWw

Spellbound in anger, my heroes have failed
To remember my name.

Posted by: mikeski at January 27, 2024 09:59 PM (DgGvY)

490 SAMHONT UP

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 27, 2024 09:59 PM (hOUT3)

491 Y'all are mentioning Pearl Jam a fair amount.

Not a fan, but I like this song by them quite a bit-

"Wishlist"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH9KBA5D8T0

Posted by: naturalfake at January 27, 2024 09:59 PM (nFnyb)

492 One of the most recognizable songs, that nobody knows the name to, is "Jessica" by Allman Brothers Band

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:59 PM (RovqD)

493 >>aside from Marley, the best reggae album (and a great album no matter what genre) is the soundtrack from The Harder They Come.

Pretty good movie, too.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 09:59 PM (ZLI7S)

494 ok this was a thing

Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:59 PM (geLO8)

495 @486

Well said

Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 09:59 PM (bkbx3)

496 Jimmy Cliff , Toots and the Maytals. Agree about The Harder They Come.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2024 10:00 PM (t/2Uw)

497 463 I detest reggae
Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2024 09:53 PM (fwDg9)

Don't be no cloud on a sunny day Jim...

Posted by: browndog takes a dose regularly at January 27, 2024 10:00 PM (TTAGa)

498 Is there ANYTHING being done musically right now that isn't going to be forgotten in 5 years?

Posted by: PJ Nagrom at January 27, 2024 10:01 PM (bkbx3)

499 435 >I remember a time in the early 70s when Black Sabbath and BOC were controversial. Fucking devil music for grade schoolers.
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remember when Beavis & Butthead was thought to be a harbinger of the apocalypse?
Posted by: Don Black at January 27, 2024 09:44 PM (geLO

As a junior in HS, many days began on the Walkman on my way to school on the bus hearing Slayer's "Seasons In The Abyss". ("War Ensemble" always gets my blood flowing.) As a senior, it was time for Slayer's HELL AWAITS.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 27, 2024 10:01 PM (8sMut)

500 >> In the right place at the right time Bob Marley can be magical. I would never just play his music on my own. But damn if it hits me at the right time it can be perfect.

I lived in the Caribbean. It was perfect.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2024 10:01 PM (ZLI7S)

501 492 One of the most recognizable songs, that nobody knows the name to, is "Jessica" by Allman Brothers Band

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 09:59 PM (RovqD)

Hear that song many times, always wondered what the name was. Thanks.

Reminds me of hearing "Sleepwalk" by Santo and Johnny; didn't know the name of the song or artists for the longest time.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 27, 2024 10:02 PM (ynpvh)

502 I recently did a search to find the origins of the song "Apache"
First recorded by Bert Weedon
More generally know by The Shadows, Jorgen Ingmann And His Guitar, and a long list of musicians

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 10:04 PM (RovqD)

503 197 Do you listen to Harry Styles?

Do you know who Harry Styles is?

If you've answered "Yes", you may be a woman.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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No, and no. I hope this doesn't mean I need to transition.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 08:31 PM (i671v)

Hadn't heard of Styles before last year, but I'd heard snippets of his songs everywhere. Decided to listen to a couple of his early albums at that point. He's not overrated. Very good pop sensibilities. His wearing a dress shtick is a pose, simply to get attention.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2024 10:05 PM (vWWqj)

504 Politically, the most outstanding Beatles song is "Piggies"

The "little piggies" are the press
The "bigger piggies" are the elites

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 10:08 PM (RovqD)

505 Bowie had a great career, from Space Oddity through Let's Dance, and yes I include that because it proved he could be commercial. And after that, he flailed.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 27, 2024 10:14 PM (CHHv1)

506 Melanie died last week.
While most people will remember her for "Brand New Key" and "Lay Down (Candles in the Rain)", my favorite was "Christopher Robin"

Little boy kneels at the foot of the bed,
Droops on his little hands, little gold head.
Sssttt, whisper. Who dares?
Christopher Robin is saying his prayers

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 10:14 PM (RovqD)

507 One song that reappeared in the public conscience is "Spirit In the Sky" by Norman Greenbaum

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 10:22 PM (RovqD)

508 505 Bowie had a great career, from Space Oddity through Let's Dance, and yes I include that because it proved he could be commercial. And after that, he flailed.

.. the video from his "Let's Dance" tour seemed lots of fun. Wished I had gone to see him then.

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 10:24 PM (RovqD)

509 The first time I heard Kris Kristofferson, I thought it was Ernest Tubb.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2024 09:28

Who was it he played with, they were on the Beverly Hillibiliies?

Posted by: Farmer at January 27, 2024 10:27 PM (55Qr6)

510 Really wish I had gotten here sooner.
I pretty ,I h listen to country music these days which seems weird since I like Rock, reggae, blues .i really like Morgan Wallen. Zac Brown was/is a favorite but don't like his newer stuff as much as the old stuff.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 27, 2024 10:28 PM (t/2Uw)

511 Who can listen to "Feeling Good" by Nina Simone without imaging a 1950's detective movie.

Posted by: Javier Gerardo Milei at January 27, 2024 10:29 PM (RovqD)

512 For those countering my comment with Beach Boys, CCR and Elton John, check out:
http://tinyurl.com/2sdy7xx2

Posted by: MichiCanuck at January 27, 2024 10:31 PM (Cwy/S)

513 Some forgotten and very underrated power pop from the late 70’s. Holds up against the best of the era.

The Records, “Crashes”

http://tinyurl.com/34zwd3r9

Posted by: HeartsInHerEyes at January 27, 2024 10:32 PM (a/Yqx)

514 503 197 Do you listen to Harry Styles?

Do you know who Harry Styles is?

If you've answered "Yes", you may be a woman.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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No, and no. I hope this doesn't mean I need to transition.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 27, 2024 08:31 PM (i671v)

Hadn't heard of Styles before last year, but I'd heard snippets of his songs everywhere. Decided to listen to a couple of his early albums at that point. He's not overrated. Very good pop sensibilities. His wearing a dress shtick is a pose, simply to get attention.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 27, 2024 10:05 PM

I LOVE Harry Styles! If I were a teenager, I would have posters of him on my bedroom wall. He is definitely not overrated. Nor was One Direction as far as boy bands go. Some of their music was fantastic.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 27, 2024 10:34 PM (rbKZ6)

515 She had pipes, but was an alcoholic druggie with self-destructive tendencies. She was supposed to do the song for that Bond movie that I think Adele did instead,

Jim, Amy was turned onto hard drugs at a tender age while backstage at her parents’ concerts. Try harder not to be a jerk.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at January 27, 2024 10:44 PM (s6PBU)

516 "Jimi Hendrix is annoying."

Wrong! Jimi Hendrix _was_ annoying.

(Just kidding, I'm a big Jimi fan.)

Posted by: Tom Perry at January 27, 2024 11:23 PM (MX0bI)

517 The Doors Suck ass
Nirvana is absolute crap
Motley Crue is the worst band ever

Posted by: jrg at January 27, 2024 11:34 PM (OrwdB)

518 515 She had pipes, but was an alcoholic druggie with self-destructive tendencies. She was supposed to do the song for that Bond movie that I think Adele did instead,

Jim, Amy was turned onto hard drugs at a tender age while backstage at her parents’ concerts. Try harder not to be a jerk.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at January 27, 2024 10:44 PM

I think "know your audience" definitely applies here.

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 28, 2024 12:09 AM (rbKZ6)

519 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2024 09:50 PM (gSZYf) "Try to use grown-up words to refute my points."

I would have, if you'd chosen to write a grown-up music thread post. Claiming that Sgt. Pepper isn't a classic album because You feel that some of the songs on there are clunkers? So do I, when considered apart from the album as a whole work. But it is the most influential album of the rock era. Citizen Kane isn't on my top ten list, or even my top 100 list of favorite films, but I understand and appreciate the reasons it is so highly regarded and considered a classic film.

Posted by: Dagwood at January 28, 2024 12:32 AM (CC0N1)

520 Re: original post:

Janis: haven't explored all of her work enough to definitely judge, but definitely not a great voice. Will respect the opinions of those who say she was unpretentious, though.
Hendrix: As my one friend says, maybe the reason he died young was to make sure there were still some things left for others to do with guitars. Love the explosiveness of a lot of his stuff, although if you listen to all three of his Experience albums, he has plenty of non-screechy songs too. I'll also give him credit for letting the one white guy sing sometimes, and "Voodoo Child" is a rare ten-minute jam that is always going somewhere and never turns into noodling. Can't guarantee with this assessment.
Pearl Jam: "Ten" is good, and "Vitalogy," while weird, has some great bits. I will strangle myself if I ever hear
"Hunger Strike" again, though.
Springsteen: Early on, when the band was the focus and he had the kind of loosy-goosy, unpretentious blues hippy thing going on, he was pretty good, and "Rosalita" is probably my favorite song ever. Then he did "Born to Run," and his head grew two sizes and he thought he was a working-class prophet or something. Led to the jerk he is today.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:13 AM (QINni)

521 Original post cont:

The Beatles: I shall expect you to see you at dawn on the field of honor, sir. Drumsticks at ten paces. I must point out that a lot of the formulaic stuff only sounds that way now because we've been listening to it and a lot of other bands doing similar things for close to sixty years now. At the time, it wasn't formulaic, it was a revelation. (For example, the harmonica solo in "Little Child" blows away 95% of *guitar* solos that had been done up to that time.) I will also say that Sgt. Pepper is the one album that does sound dated sometimes, but it's overrated in the way that the Mona Lisa is overrated: while it's not as great as many people think it is, it's still great. Revolver, the White Album, and Abbey Road, on the other hand, are all easily top 10 albums ever.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:21 AM (QINni)

522 2. "1. I never, ever, "got" the Rolling Stones.
2. Bob Dylan can't sing. I don't mean his musicianship is bad, I mean he cannot fucking sing. And his songs are pretentious crap."

1. I finally sat down and went through the Stones' catalog from the beginning up to about Tattoo You, and I must say that my opinion of them has gone way up: I always liked them, but now I love them. The Beatles are still ahead IMO, because they set trends while the Stones followed them. However, when the Stones followed trends, they took them and made them their own. They definitely followed the crowd in doing psychedelia, for instance, but songs like "Dandelion" or "2000 Light Years from Home" (an underappreciated song, by the way) are *Stones* songs; you can't mistake them for anyone else. Same thing for "Emotional Rescue": totally cashing in on disco, but it's Stones disco. I will also say that they did a better job of managing their interpersonal and drug problems than the Beatles'. and therefore managed to have a much longer fertile period than the Fab 4 did.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:33 AM (QINni)

523 cont. 2.) 2.) Dylan's voice worked with his original wise-guy folk prophet schtick; it's hard to imagine anyone else doing "Like a Rolling Stone" nearly as well for example. However, a.) his voice has been intolerable for a long time now, and b.) a lot of people have done much better jobs with a lot of his other songs.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:35 AM (QINni)

524 6

"Bob Seger. "Night Moves" is a decent, vaguely memorable song. The rest of his work is vastly self-important. I have a suspicion his career was based on people confusing him with Pete Seeger."

I've only listened to his hits, so maybe you know better, but he always projected this working-class, ordinary guy image to me. That being said, "Turn the Page," while still a great song, is a bit pretentious. (An unusual example, at least IMO, where the live version is better than the studio recording. The sax is much better developed and more poignant, and Seger's delivery is much better as well. Only other example of that I can think of off the top of my head is "I Want You to Want Me" by Cheap Trick.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:39 AM (QINni)

525 14 "Green Day - most annoying hack commie band ever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2024 07:39 PM (S6gqv)

Rage Against the Machine takes that one, IMO."

This. Gee, lets repeat the same profanity-laden line twenty-seven times, shall we?

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:41 AM (QINni)

526 20 "You forgot U2. First three albums were remarkable. Everything after that was dreck"

Cannot agree. While I love the early albums, and I'm disappointed that they drifted away from their faith, The Unforgettable Fire and Joshua Tree are both great albums, the studio parts of Rattle and Hum are sadly not as known as they should be, and even their electronica phase has a lot of high points. After "Beautiful Day," it did go downhill, though.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:45 AM (QINni)

527 49 "In my experience, Rush is a band that most men like, and that few women can tolerate."

The first girl I broke my heart on in high school was a huge Rush fan. Still have never listened to them as a result.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:47 AM (QINni)

528 74 "29 The best band of the Grunge Era was Stone Temple Pilots.

Alice In Chains > Stone Temple Pilots

But STP was damn good."

Must agree that AIC was the best of the grunge period.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:49 AM (QINni)

529 80 "70 Rush,
Technically they're good but their silly libertarian fantasy world building is off-putting.
Posted by: Abzod at January 27, 2024 07:56 PM (HqRdV)

Oh Come on 2112 is the Greatest Sci Fi Album ever made! (ok maybe it's the only one but still)"

/Elo's Time, Paul Kantner's Blows Against the Empire, and much of Parliament's oeuvre have entered the chat./

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:53 AM (QINni)

530 94
"3 Dog Night, particularly "Easy to be Hard", where those mf-ers introduced "social injustice" into pop song lyrics. GFY, boy-os."

Beyond the fact that it's a cover from Hair, listen to the rest of the lyrics sometime. That song critiques do-gooder lefties who "love the people" but don't actually care about individual persons. Given when it was written, it was actually highly. . .*subversive* :-)

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 01:59 AM (QINni)

531 98 "The Doors are too different to be under/over rated."

I listened to all of their albums with Morrison for the first time in a while, and it struck me that that might have been the most perfectly constructed band ever. Manzarek is, of course, the GOAT of keyboardists, Krieger and Densmore were very good at guitar and drums respectively, and Morrison was a well-above average singer by rock standards and an interesting writer, even if he did get weird and self-indulgent sometimes. They did some very complicated things very well, particularly their notorious epics like "The End" or "When the Music's Over," but even their regular songs were generally much more ambitious than the typical band fare. It's a pity that Morrison was self-destructive; it would have been interesting to see where they would have gone in the rest of the 70's.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:07 AM (QINni)

532 133 "Is Wierd Al over/under rated?"

Weird Al is awesome. Speaking of the Doors, "Craigslist" is not only hilarious about its subject, but it is also a pitch-perfect Doors imitation. My recommendation from his lesser known songs is "Genius in France", which is his Zappa tribute.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:10 AM (QINni)

533 155 "one bad thing about being >29, all the hot rock chicks of my formative years are all wizened dried out husks now

Joan Jett
Kate Pierson
Cindy Wilson
Linda Ronstadt
Shirley Manson
whatsername from Heart- the brunette"

As my one friend says, Marilyn Manson is a poser. Shirley Manson is the real thing. :-)

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:12 AM (QINni)

534 187 "The Clash are way overrated. And I'm keeping my civil tongue in my head about Zappa."

They're my favorite punk band, precisely because unlike your normal punk band, they could actually play and be tuneful. About 3/4 of London Calling is great songs (the rest do wander around a bit and go on for too long), and "Should I Stay or Should I Go" is one of my top twenty songs.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:15 AM (QINni)

535 200 "The XO gave me the CD with all the Beatles' #1 songs. I listened to it and pretty much went "Yuck!" So many of their earlier albums were horribly misogenic."

OK, "Run for Your Life" I'll give you, and maybe "Please Please Me" (once you know what the *actual* subject is), but beyond that, the Beatles, misogynic? Traditional, certainly, but not much actual woman-hating. You sure you're not thinking of the Stones?

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:20 AM (QINni)

536 208 "Something by George Harrison, guy was underrated."

All Things Must Pass definitely the best Beatles solo album.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:21 AM (QINni)

537 212 "It also means I notice weird shit like the lyrics of Tom Petty's "Free Falling" which seems to be about some kind of Omega Man vampire apocalypse scenario."

Nah, it's just about a guy moping around LA after breaking up with his girlfriend. The "vampires" are either goths or hungover guys going home after their one-night stands.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:25 AM (QINni)

538 213 "Looking back, one of my favorite groups from the 60s and 70s was The Fifth Dimension. Just easy to listen to stuff, and Marilyn and Billy are reported to be some of the nicest people on Earth."

The wife and I recently moved to Houston, which has some of the most incredible freeway interchanges on earth. The first time we went on one, we took the uppermost ramp, which must go at least 100 feet up, and to amuse my wife, I started singing, "Up, up and away, in my beautiful, my beautiful, exit ramp!" The next day, I thought, damn, I haven't listened to the 5th Dimension in a long time, so I played all of their albums while I was at work. There's a good bit of filler there, but also some amazing songs ("Carpet Man" is probably the best one that you don't hear very often), and the harmonies are of course incredible. They also had, of all things, a concept album, and it isn't half bad!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magic_Garden

Marilyn and Billy are also rare examples of born-again Christians in secular pop music, which may help explain while they're still together.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:31 AM (QINni)

539 232 "Billie Ellish is today’s Bjork though she doesn’t make me want to puncher my eardrums."

I listened to When We All Fall Asleep. . . to see what the hype was about, but expecting to not like it. While I don't like the fact that she often mumbles at a barely audible level, in general I was pleasantly surprised. She has a lot of interesting sounds, and there are a couple of songs near the end that are heartbreakers: one describing a drug overdose from the point of view of the victim, and another about two people falling in love with each other, knowing that it won't work out in the end, but unable to stop themselves. I'm not confident that she'll continue to produce good work, but that album is worth a listen.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:38 AM (QINni)

540 264 "Granted, it was as much George Martin as it was the Fab Four"

If anyone was the fifth Beatle, it was George.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:40 AM (QINni)

541 273 "I put Tom Petty in that category. I've heard other musicians talk since his death, and it seems that his biggest talent was being a wonderful person to work with; he appears to have been one of the most respected band managers ever. That's why he could put together the Traveling Wilbury's."

Looking at the history of the Heartbreakers on Wiki, you have a point: they were around for over forty years, and only one guy left due to interpersonal problems (another quit early on due to not liking touring; he eventually came back to replace another guy who had emotional and drug issues.)

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:43 AM (QINni)

542 288 "You know who is overrated?

Eric Clapton."

Clapton is weird in that, once he went solo, he gravitated towards music that didn't particularly showcase his playing. For example, "After Midnight" is both great and fun, but a lot of people could have done those guitar solos 99% as well as he could. I don't know if he felt like he had to prove himself as a singer to be a great musician, or whether he thought huge guitar hero solos were vain, or what, but he seemed to shy away from the sort of spectacular things that people like Hendrix did. I will say that I saw an interview of him from the Cream days, where he was asked to talk about guitar technique, and it is one of the best examples of explaining something complicated that I've ever seen; he did it in a way which made it comprehensible to the layman, but without being condescending about it. I have to figure he's a good chap, and I'm not surprised that he came out against the COVID hysteria.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:49 AM (QINni)

543 "311 Unless you count Alice in Chains as grunge, in which case they are king.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings

They may have started grunge, but never intended to.
Posted by: Kindltot

Three AiC references means I need to link to Drain STH, the Swedish Bikini Team of Alices in Chains.

https://youtu.be/rOCBhmPcCtI"

You are indeed correct.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:54 AM (QINni)

544 355 "I saw documentary on electric guitars in which they pointed out Hendrix's genius. Apparently before him electric guitars were basically acoustic guitars amplified. He was the first (according to this doc) - to experiment with all of the different sounds the guitar could make beyond just amplification. After that the electric guitar was changed in how it was. played. Again this is what the doc explained for what its worth."

It's not like no one had gone there before--to choose a band a lot of people have been dragging here, the Beatles very famously started "I Feel Fine" with a quick bit of feedback--but he definitely took it to a whole other level, and did some things that no one has really ever done since, at least not without the help of a computer.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 02:58 AM (QINni)

545 360 "Queen, and specifically Freddie Mercury, knew how to entertain, that was always the focus of their music, and that was why they were one of the rare bands where their live performances were generally *better* than their albums. That was the basis of their popularity - for an example, of course Bohemian Rhapsody is schlocky, and over the top, and bombastic, but it also does all those things in a way that tens of millions of fans *loved* and wanted to hear over and over again."

They are indeed a very fun band. My absolute favorite of theirs is "Somebody to Love"--I would love to see a pair skating couple work up a routine for that sometime.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 03:00 AM (QINni)

546 454 "The Cars would be on an all-time under-rated list."

Yeah, I was going through their hits recently, and I had forgotten how many good songs they had.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 03:05 AM (QINni)

547 483 "Surprised Jefferson Airplane / Starship and Grace Slick haven't been mentioned."

Surrealistic Pillow is a great album, Jefferson Airplane Takes Off (their first album, with the Signe woman instead of Slick), is also pretty good, and Volunteers has some high points ("We Can Be Together" is in a lot of ways a perfect capitulation of the arrogance of the 60's generation, and yet I can't help but feel poignant every time I hear it--probably because I think the band knew that the Summer of Love scene and their own relationship were both coming to an end, and some of that comes through in the song. "Good Shepherd" is also an awesome song that deserves to be known better, and "A Song for All Seasons" is a hilarious commentary on the music scene done in country-western style that is Weird Al-worthy.) Their other albums are mostly too dissonant and avant-garde for my taste.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 03:16 AM (QINni)

548 507 "One song that reappeared in the public conscience is "Spirit In the Sky" by Norman Greenbaum"

Not sure it totally works as a Christian song (though I give him credit for trying it in that era), but surely one of the best intros ever.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 03:19 AM (QINni)

549 512 For those countering my comment with Beach Boys, CCR and Elton John, check out:
http://tinyurl.com/2sdy7xx2

Interesting that most of the top of the list is earlier stuff.

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 03:22 AM (QINni)

550 421 "Steve Cropper and Donald ‘Duck’ Dunn."

They were the backbone, the nerve center of a great rhythm and blues band. They were powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline. /bluesbrothers :-)

Posted by: Joe Smith at January 28, 2024 03:36 AM (QINni)

551 Pixies
Sonic Youth
Dinosaur Junior
Urge Overkill
Any number of "Dunedin Sound" bands from the 80's

Posted by: krontekag at January 28, 2024 04:18 AM (YfZ3W)

552 Totally wrong about Hendrix and the Beatles. Hendrix was one of the most groundbreaking and influential instrumentalists ever. If his stuff sounds less interesting today it's because everybody tried to copy him for at least the next 30 years. Plus he wrote some cool songs, especially on Axis: Bold as Love.

The Beatles - mostly Lennon/McCartney - wrote scores of memorable, catchy melodic pop tunes when writing 5 or 6 makes you a "genius". Not impressed when someone finds a few songs they don't like out of their catalog of at least 150.

Posted by: FOAF at January 28, 2024 04:29 AM (eMc9U)

553 Read it once, can't source it, but someone told Dylan that Bob Seger was a poor man's Bruce Springsteen, and Dylan replied that Springsteen was a rich man's Bob Seger.

Dylan for the win.

Posted by: Kreskin at January 28, 2024 07:35 AM (xP8Wr)

554 I was with you until The Beatles.

Posted by: Gobba goo at January 28, 2024 07:45 AM (kGC7y)

555 Allman Brothers
Journey
Rush

Posted by: TC at January 28, 2024 07:46 AM (cHOHf)

556 Only total fucktards diss The Beatles and praise Lou F'n Reed. So there.

Posted by: leber at January 28, 2024 08:57 AM (rovGg)

557 I probably have the only complete, unopened set of the Beatles vinyl cause they suck & I would never subject my needle to that garbage.

Posted by: Bob at January 28, 2024 12:02 PM (YiqZD)

558 Joe Smith - thanks for the commentary. I enjoyed your insights.

Posted by: forheremenaremen at January 28, 2024 12:12 PM (4ublw)

559 Hendrix is indeed overrated -- nobody is THAT good -- but for me what he did best was to play rhythm and lead at the same time. I think most of his fame comes from his stage presence, the fact he was a black rock star popular with a white audience, and the fact that he died young. Both Clapton and Roy Buchanan showed more range imo.

Posted by: teejuss at January 28, 2024 12:55 PM (yylD+)

560 "Danny Carey of Tool, Neal Peart of Rush and Stewart Copeland of The Police jamming.."

Tim Alexander of Primus.

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