Pro-Terror Accounts Now Claim That 10/7 Was a False Flag Attack Conducted by... Israel

I'm really tired of the "false flag" bullshit, from both the left and the right. Whenever something happens that damages one faction's political standing, some will begin claiming that this incident was actually conducted by the opposing faction in order to reduce the original faction's political standing.

Did a mass shooting cause problems for the right's (constitutionally correct) pro gun rights position? No problem, we'll just claim that the shooting was actually conducted by the left, in order to boost the polling for gun control by 2-3 points for 2-3 weeks.

It's so fucking stupid and ignorant. It's embarrassing. And it's always the same tired syllogism, with the same lack of evidence. The only evidence is this: This incident has set our cause back, therefore, our enemies actually perpetrated this incident to damage us.

And now, as Hamas and its allies realize just how badly their terror-rape offensive (in both senses of the word) has damaged their military and propaganda position, they begin claiming, "You know, it was really Israel who did this whole time, just to give them a false flag justification to invade Gaza.

The terrorists did this with 9/11, too: When 9/11 turned out to be not the opening shot in an Islamic revolution that would topple the west, but the shot that caused the toppling of Islamist terror states, terror apologists started taking the credit away from Osama bin Ladin, who they had just spent months lionizing as the Hero of 9/11, to claim that the hated Jews and Americans had akshually conducted the 9/11 attacks.

From The Washington Post:

A small but growing group denies the basic facts of the attacks, pushing a spectrum of falsehoods and misleading narratives that minimize the violence or dispute its origins. Some argue the ambush was staged by the Israeli military to justify an invasion of Gaza. Others say that some 240 hostages Hamas took into Gaza were actually kidnapped by Israel. Some contend the United States is behind the plot...
It's bleeding into the real world: Demonstrators have shouted the claim at anti-Israel protests and have used it to justify removing posters of hostages in cities like London and Chicago. At a November city council meeting in Oakland, Calif., multiple residents disputed the veracity of the attack...
"So basically the Hamas attack was a false flag for Israel to occupy Gaza and kill Palestinians," reads a recent post on the Reddit forum r/LateStageCapitalism. "Expected behaviour from nazi wannabes."
LateStageCapitalism is a community of left-wing activists that bills itself as "A One-Stop-Shop for Evidence of our Social, Moral and Ideological Rot."But the claim can be found elsewhere on the internet, including publications critical of Israel like Electronic Intifada and GrayZone, and in messaging groups like Monte's Uncensored Truths, which previously had been focused on pandemic-related gripes about vaccines and conspiratorial ideas about "globalists" ushering in a so-called New World Order. Right-wing Holocaust deniers also have latched onto the claims.

Sure, the "right-wing Holocaust deniers," all 200 of them, have to be mentioned so that the Washington Post's leftwing alliance partners don't have to bear this shame alone.

Below: "Allegedly."

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:30 PM

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1 Right...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:30 PM (di6C2)

2 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:30 PM (xcxpd)

3 Top 5?

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at January 22, 2024 05:31 PM (pgwxJ)

4 The more they talk Israel (or Conservatives) doing false flag ops, the more convinced I am that Hamas and Democrats are planning false flag ops.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:31 PM (xcxpd)

5 "Auschwitz, a town that allegedly witnessed genocide"
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Wow.

Posted by: bluebell at January 22, 2024 05:31 PM (pTb/Z)

6
They're not even pretending any longer. They don't want an accommodation, they want a conquest. One that will make Auschwitz look like a spa resort.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:31 PM (yXg8+)

7 5 "Auschwitz, a town that allegedly witnessed genocide"
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Wow.
Posted by: bluebell at January 22, 2024 05:31 PM (pTb/Z)

Yeah, they really are shitweasels.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:32 PM (di6C2)

8 allegedly 1st!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at January 22, 2024 05:32 PM (WsTvr)

9 Huh. brave recognizes 'shitweasels' as a word.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:32 PM (di6C2)

10 The Palestinian attack on innocent civilians was sick and barbaric. What is surprised that Palestinian supporters are trying to dismiss the attack?

Posted by: Ann at January 22, 2024 05:33 PM (4neFu)

11 Wait, how did they get all the hostages then? And the rape and torture videos?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:33 PM (di6C2)

12 "Did a mass shooting cause problems for the right's (constitutionally correct) pro gun rights position? No problem, we'll just claim that the shooting was actually conducted by the left, in order to boost the polling for gun control by 2-3 points for 2-3 weeks."

Ace? What are you talking about here?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:33 PM (xcxpd)

13 Huh. brave recognizes 'shitweasels' as a word.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:32 PM (di6C2)
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You've probably saved it. My phone recognizes all kinds of nics from here, including yours. And WeaselDog.

Posted by: bluebell at January 22, 2024 05:34 PM (pTb/Z)

14
Ask every Democrat, "Does Israel have a right to exist?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:34 PM (yXg8+)

15 The 10/7 attack was the greatest thing ever. Also Israel brought it on themselves. Also it didn't happen, but if it did Israel did it.
-DU

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 22, 2024 05:34 PM (MGB5H)

16 this is all just incredibly depressing

but good - a good reminder of the evil that men do

the evil that people will condone

the evil that shouts and laughs in these dark times

Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at January 22, 2024 05:35 PM (AcWfM)

17 I love the term "Late Stage Capitalism," as though capitalism is not only in decay but near the end of its natural life.

This is, sad to say, a very hot take in some quarters of the professional historian community, which wants to pretend capitalism is only a relative blip in human existence.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 22, 2024 05:35 PM (g0Y4p)

18 I thought it was brave Palis who did that because of oppression and such.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:35 PM (YofvK)

19 Overcome with emotion, Shapiro dropped down to speaking 260 words per minute.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 22, 2024 05:35 PM (cf/0E)

20 You've probably saved it. My phone recognizes all kinds of nics from here, including yours. And WeaselDog.
Posted by: bluebell at January 22, 2024 05:34 PM (pTb/Z)

To be fair, Aetius was a real dude.

And WeaselDog is a real dog.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:36 PM (di6C2)

21 Typical leftists logic

It doesn’t exist. Also it’s good that it exists.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:36 PM (YofvK)

22 If I understand correctly, Auschwitz was a false flag op by Israel.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at January 22, 2024 05:36 PM (FVME7)

23
"Late Stage Socialism": the USSR in 1986.

.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (yXg8+)

24 On to the next

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (1jfyW)

25 "Auschwitz, a town that allegedly witnessed genocide"

Well much of the town did not "witness" it, they ignored it .. at least till Americans forced them to visit the camps after the war (not sure if that was at Auschwitz)

Posted by: illiniwek at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (Cus5s)

26 Tune into my new podcast, "Fun With False Flags"

Posted by: Sheldon Cooper at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (hqVaF)

27 19 Overcome with emotion, Shapiro dropped down to speaking 260 words per minute.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 22, 2024 05:35 PM (cf/0E)

He actually looks fairly resolute and serious in that photo. I can see women going, who's the hardass standing next to Elon?

With his mouth shut.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (di6C2)

28 So-called New World Odor

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (63Dwl)

29 Tune into my new podcast, "Fun With False Flags"
Posted by: Sheldon Cooper

*snort*

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 22, 2024 05:38 PM (MGB5H)

30 11 Ate

Also, for months Hamas leaders BRAGGED ABOUT 10/7.

In a sane world, a pivot from "We did it, & we're proud that we did it!" to "The Jews did it all by themselves" would be a tough sell.

Posted by: mnw at January 22, 2024 05:38 PM (NLIak)

31 Using 9/11 as an example of a bad false flag is, IMO, not wise. Those dudes were flagged by the FBI and they knew where they were staying IIRC.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 22, 2024 05:38 PM (1jfyW)

32 If I understand correctly, Auschwitz was a false flag op by Israel.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at January 22, 2024 05:36 PM (FVME7)

Those sneaky time-traveling Joos!

Posted by: Dr. T at January 22, 2024 05:38 PM (g0Y4p)

33 nd it's always the same tired syllogism, with the same lack of evidence. The only evidence is this: This incident has set our cause back, therefore, our enemies actually perpetrated this incident to damage us.

A syllogism is a form of deductive reasoning consisting of a major premise, a minor premise, and a conclusion; for example:

Smart humans use Venn Diagrams (the major premise)
I am a human (the minor premise)
Therefore, I use Venn Diagrams (the conclusion)

Posted by: Kamala! 2024! 2028! David Hogg 2032! at January 22, 2024 05:38 PM (a3Q+t)

34
Well much of the town did not "witness" it, they ignored it .. at least till Americans forced them to visit the camps after the war (not sure if that was at Auschwitz)
Posted by: illiniwek at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (Cus5s)

__________

*polite cough*

The Red Army overran Auschwitz.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:39 PM (yXg8+)

35 The camp at Auschwitz was just a place where people could work to better themselves. See? It says so right on the sign.

Posted by: The Left, 100 million bodies and counting at January 22, 2024 05:39 PM (+MgZd)

36 Well much of the town did not "witness" it, they ignored it .. at least till Americans forced them to visit the camps after the war (not sure if that was at Auschwitz)
Posted by: illiniwek

Would have been hard for Americans to do it since the Russians liberated the camp.

Americans did force Germans to visit camps as they liberated from the west.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:39 PM (YofvK)

37 Some say that the SS may have done something, something?

-- the left

Posted by: Tonypete at January 22, 2024 05:39 PM (qoGsy)

38 We are going to Hungry this year and they have a Museum on the Horrors of Nazism and Communism, my Son is 11 I think he needs to see what the horrors they inflicted on people

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at January 22, 2024 05:40 PM (dKiJG)

39 Did a mass shooting cause problems for the right's (constitutionally correct) pro gun rights position? No problem, we'll just claim that the shooting was actually conducted by the left, in order to boost the polling for gun control by 2-3 points for 2-3 weeks."

Ace? What are you talking about here?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:33 PM (xcxpd)

Yeah. I'm a bit confused by this too.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 22, 2024 05:40 PM (BdMk6)

40 Some say that the SS may have done something, something?

-- the left
Posted by: Tonypete at

What difference, at this point, does it make
-also the left

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 22, 2024 05:41 PM (MGB5H)

41 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at January 22, 2024 05:40 PM (dKiJG)

Yes. Yes he does. As do all kids.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 22, 2024 05:41 PM (1jfyW)

42 Well much of the town did not "witness" it, they ignored it .. at least till Americans forced them to visit the camps after the war (not sure if that was at Auschwitz)
Posted by: illiniwek at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (Cus5s)

Point of order: Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviets, not the Americans, and it was located in Poland. Though, the Poles' own history with Jews has been, shall we say, complicated.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 22, 2024 05:41 PM (g0Y4p)

43 My biggest problem with the Palestinian genocide is the same as with the Trans genocide.

While in the real world, few, if any, condemn actual genocide at the time it was happening.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 22, 2024 05:41 PM (C2U4G)

44 e are going to Hungry this year and they have a Museum on the Horrors of Nazism and Communism, my Son is 11 I think he needs to see what the horrors they inflicted on people
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio

Don't think I was much more than 11 when I went to the holocaust museum in dc

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 22, 2024 05:41 PM (MGB5H)

45
Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk at Auschwitz today. Nice.

Ben Shapiro endorsed Donald Trump today. I have some other cruel blogger on my Bingo Card who I expect (some limited) Trump endorsement from soon.

So far, no joy.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 22, 2024 05:42 PM (nIvob)

46 The theory is much like that of 9/11, that Americans allowed it to happen. ... And I've seen even some "conservative" sites that suggest we and Israel had intel that something was about to happen. Egypt also (iirc) alleges that they warned Israel.

I have no idea about politics in Israel, except they seem to be infiltrated by leftists ... not sure if it is worse or better than in the US. Wasn't the concert (or whatever) where many were taken and killed ... a sort of kumbaya leftist thang?

Posted by: illiniwek at January 22, 2024 05:42 PM (Cus5s)

47 Ace? What are you talking about here?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:33 PM (xcxpd)

Yeah. I'm a bit confused by this too.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 22, 2024 05:40 PM (BdMk6)

I think he flipped the hypothetical that he was 'suggesting' (that we have seen them do several times.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:42 PM (di6C2)

48 This makes me shake my head and flirt with tears.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 05:42 PM (SExFt)

49 Reddit is a good place to see what the typical 22 year old urban dweller thinks about the world. It ain’t pretty.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:43 PM (YofvK)

50 The coordinated lying and gaslighting is why you don't waste time reasoning with these inherently dishonest people.

You spend that time punching their collective dicks in.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 22, 2024 05:43 PM (OZjDX)

51 I have some other cruel blogger on my Bingo Card who I expect (some limited) Trump endorsement from soon.

So far, no joy.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 22, 2024 05:42 PM

Does VDH endorse candidates?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 22, 2024 05:43 PM (a3Q+t)

52 I have heard that Israeli forces showed up sooner than first reported and implemented something called The Hannibal Directive where they prevent hostages "by any means necessary."

And that this was not initially reported for the obvious reason that some (?) of the Israeli citizens were killed by friendly fire. The reports I read said that the friendly fire may have gotten out of hand, and included Apache's machine gunning cars on road, tank blasting a Kibbutz held by the invaders but full of hostages, and firing into the woods where concert goers were seeking shelter.

So for reasons it was reported that the IDF was not there, but then that led people to ask why the delay. The delay is hard to explain, but the friendly fire is maybe worse, but maybe not.

I don't know where the truth is on this, but it opens up some possible limited hangout type explanations which are the always the seeds for conspiracy theories.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 22, 2024 05:43 PM (kWbXR)

53 Well much of the town did not "witness" it, they ignored it .. at least till Americans forced them to visit the camps after the war (not sure if that was at Auschwitz)
Posted by: illiniwek at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (Cus5s)
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No that was done in the concentration camps within Germany. The death camps were all in the eastern territories (deliberately so), so the residents didn't have much choice in the matter.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 22, 2024 05:43 PM (9XOwt)

54 44 e are going to Hungry this year and they have a Museum on the Horrors of Nazism and Communism, my Son is 11 I think he needs to see what the horrors they inflicted on people
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio

Don't think I was much more than 11 when I went to the holocaust museum in dc
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 22, 2024 05:41 PM (MGB5H)

I would have been 13-14 when our History teacher showed us Night and Fog. Made an impression.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:43 PM (di6C2)

55 Included in the "op" are a couple of high ranking hamas/Pali also, who said there would be 10/7s over and over.

So there's that.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at January 22, 2024 05:44 PM (FxH7T)

56 I have some other cruel blogger on my Bingo Card who I expect (some limited) Trump endorsement from soon.

So far, no joy.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 22, 2024 05:42 PM (nIvob)

I think ace wants to cost me $5.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:44 PM (di6C2)

57 I don’t know if it happens here but I’ve seen people comment that mass shooters are false flags to deflect from something else going on. Wag the dog type stuff.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:44 PM (YofvK)

58 "We're never going to be able to wail about how much we regret the annihilation of the Jews if you knuckle draggers keep preventing the annihilation from happening."

Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 22, 2024 05:45 PM (8AONa)

59 My phone recognizes all kinds of nics from here, including yours. And WeaselDog.
Posted by: bluebell at January 22, 2024 05:34 PM

While bluebell recognizes hashes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 22, 2024 05:45 PM (a3Q+t)

60 I believe Dachau is the best known example of camps which the western Allies forced German civilians to inspect-- if they wanted ration cards.

I believe this was done at other camps, too-- but not at the most famous extermination camps, which were in Russian-occupied Poland.

Posted by: mnw at January 22, 2024 05:45 PM (NLIak)

61
Europe will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:46 PM (yXg8+)

62 Early OT. Noted AoSHQ Cruelty Expert Victor Davis Hanson on the disturbing historical trends in election years.

http://tinyurl.com/54ea2dt9

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 22, 2024 05:46 PM (OZjDX)

63 We are going to Hungry this year and they have a Museum on the Horrors of Nazism and Communism, my Son is 11 I think he needs to see what the horrors they inflicted on people
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio

If you have a chance, seek out Barbara Turkeltaub of Stark County. She is one of the few remaining Holocaust survivors. As far as I know, she still gives talks throughout Ohio on her experience.

Mrs. Trukeltaub is the Mom of one of my HS classmates. She came and spoke to our student body every year. As did her husband. Riveting, first hand testimony.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 22, 2024 05:47 PM (qoGsy)

64 Time for Abbott to send nonstop busses to the neighborhoods of Roberts and ACB.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at January 22, 2024 05:47 PM (7X4UN)

65 I'm still waiting for Zuckerburg to climb into the ring with Elon.

Of course, I think Zuck has about same muscle tone as the wee mouthy anti gun zealot David Hogg.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at January 22, 2024 05:47 PM (tT6L1)

66 Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 22, 2024 05:42 PM (nIvob)

He has to. If he wants ANY love post primary it’s his only option. He’s still a homunculus POS.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (1jfyW)

67 Elon Musk tweeted about the Patriot Front. He wants to know why someone hasn't followed them and identified them.

In a report today, someone did follow them back to their cars. They all had blank license plates.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (woPEM)

68 Europe will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:46 PM (yXg8+)

Ain't that the truth.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (BdMk6)

69
As the Red Army moved in from the east they moved the prisoners to the west. Some as many as six times.

There were a shitload of death camps.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (nIvob)

70 Israel made a big mistake in not releasing all of the footage (without blurring any of it out) they should have known Jew haters would lie about everything.

Posted by: Allen at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (YWSUL)

71 Of course, I think Zuck has about same muscle tone as the wee mouthy anti gun zealot David Hogg.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at January 22, 2024 05:47 PM (tT6L1)
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And still looks like a poorly-animated sex doll.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (9XOwt)

72 57 I don’t know if it happens here but I’ve seen people comment that mass shooters are false flags to deflect from something else going on. Wag the dog type stuff.
Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:44 PM (YofvK)

I don't think they are necessarily complete false flags. But it is odd how much hardware (expensive) and brand new truck that say, the Uvalde kid was able to get his hands on.

It's not a false flag per se, the kid still pulls the trigger themselves, but if they are... groomed? Encouraged?

I dunno. I wish it was 20 years ago and I could call myself a fucking nut.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (di6C2)

73 Ace? What are you talking about here?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:33 PM (xcxpd)

Yeah. I'm a bit confused by this too.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
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Sometimes he's riffing.
Will you allow him to riff?
As the leader, can't he just riff?
CAN'T HE RIFF?!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (C2U4G)

74 I was waiting for the false flag claims. I knew from the start it was only a matter of time. Never mind that the perpetrators themselves filmed it and broadcast it to the world. The victims would end up being blamed.

Posted by: junior at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (XX1Xz)

75 Amy Coney Day O’Connor

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:48 PM (YofvK)

76
An American enlisted man who fought from Normandy to the end of the war said when his unit liberated a camp he'd go through it all again if it meant stopping this.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:49 PM (yXg8+)

77 Hell, I saw people making this false flag claim by Oct 9th.

Lots of people.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 22, 2024 05:49 PM (wNDOJ)

78 The theory is much like that of 9/11, that Americans allowed it to happen. ... And I've seen even some "conservative" sites that suggest we and Israel had intel that something was about to happen. Egypt also (iirc) alleges that they warned Israel.

I have no idea about politics in Israel, except they seem to be infiltrated by leftists ... not sure if it is worse or better than in the US. Wasn't the concert (or whatever) where many were taken and killed ... a sort of kumbaya leftist thang?
Posted by: illiniwek at January 22, 2024 05:42 PM (Cus5s)

The New Neo has covered this topic extensively at her blog. The gist of her position is, Yes, Israeli intelligence had info that something was about to go down, but dismissed it because a) it was relying too much on technological rather than human intelligence, b) Hamas had successfully lulled Israel into a false sense of security, and therefore c) those to whom the warnings were brought simply didn't want to believe them.

Story old as time, really.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 22, 2024 05:49 PM (g0Y4p)

79 "Whenever something happens that damages one faction's political standing, some will begin claiming that this incident was actually conducted by the opposing faction in order to reduce the original faction's political standing."

Back in 2016, David Cole over at Taki's Magazine came up with the term "false flaggots" to describe these kids of people.

Posted by: Alex at January 22, 2024 05:51 PM (EcUen)

80 The "false flag" thing is played out, really.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

But it is good to see just how many people in this country deeply hate Israel and want to carry Hamas's water, just so they can be exposed. It's always good to see them pull their own pants down so they can be pointed out.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 22, 2024 05:51 PM (8sMut)

81
I don't think they are necessarily complete false flags. But it is odd how much hardware (expensive) and brand new truck that say, the Uvalde kid was able to get his hands on.

—

I remember people saying that about the guns. But he did have a full time job and was living for free at his grandparents house. Even making $8/hr it doesn’t take a lot to save up for some guns if you have no other expenses. And the truck was the grandfather’s.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:51 PM (YofvK)

82 So lefties have moved from celebrating 10/7 to denying it?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 05:51 PM (SExFt)

83 >Europe will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz.

Yup Europe's beautiful moral superiority was torn away.

I remember reading that for the first time. Reading and re-reading, "is this a mistake?" before getting. Maybe my most cynical epiphany.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 22, 2024 05:52 PM (cf/0E)

84 >>>37 Some say that the SS may have done something, something? -- the left

Some people did some things.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 22, 2024 05:52 PM (GXBev)

85 fwiw, if netanyahu wanted a false flag, this would be the false flag he wanted

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (RjBju)

86 Some people did some things.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 22, 2024 05:52 PM (GXBev)
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I do not approve this message.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (9XOwt)

87 From The Washington Post:

A small but growing group denies...what group WP?
Some argue...who exactly WP?
Others say...what others WP?

Jeez. If you clowns had been in my journalism 101 class, the prof and retired.editor, would flunk your sorry asses.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (W/lyH)

88 >>An American enlisted man who fought from Normandy to the end of the war said when his unit liberated a camp he'd go through it all again if it meant stopping this.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:49 PM

I heard my uncle talk about this once. He was as tough a guy as you'd ever meet. He cried.

Posted by: huerfano at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (Q4KYm)

89 Zuckface does BJJ and is quite fit. Elon's fighting weight would be way above his, though.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (cf/0E)

90 82 So lefties have moved from celebrating 10/7 to denying it?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 05:51 PM (SExFt)

It didn’t happen. Also it’s awesome it happened,

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (YofvK)

91 25 "Auschwitz, a town that allegedly witnessed genocide"

Well much of the town did not "witness" it, they ignored it .. at least till Americans forced them to visit the camps after the war (not sure if that was at Auschwitz)
Posted by: illiniwek at January 22, 2024 05:37 PM (Cus5s)

A little far east for the Americans to reach. The Red Army went through the gates of Auschwitz on January 27, 1945.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (8sMut)

92 85 fwiw, if netanyahu wanted a false flag, this would be the false flag he wanted
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (RjBju)

I don't think anyone could have wanted this- except the Palis.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:54 PM (di6C2)

93 Posted by: Dr. T at January 22, 2024 05:49 PM (g0Y4

Intelligence allows something to happen to embiggen themselves

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 22, 2024 05:54 PM (1jfyW)

94 Zuckface does BJJ and is quite fit. Elon's fighting weight would be way above his, though.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

Believe he tore his pec or bicep too, so won't be fighting for awhile.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 22, 2024 05:54 PM (MGB5H)

95 Then: Yeah we raped and/or killed all those Jews on 10/7. It was great. We're proud of it and will do it again if given half a chance.

Now: All those Jews raped and killed themselves on 10/7. It was great, but they're trying to blame it on us. We're so mad about this that we'll rape and kill Jews if given half a chance.

Posted by: Hamas at January 22, 2024 05:54 PM (/OWHH)

96 But it is good to see just how many people in this country deeply hate Israel and want to carry Hamas's water, just so they can be exposed. It's always good to see them pull their own pants down so they can be pointed out.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-

wanting answers and hating Israel have nothing in common
we should have demanded more answers after 911

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:54 PM (RjBju)

97 I don't think anyone could have wanted this- except the Palis.
Posted by: Aet

who benefits?

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:55 PM (RjBju)

98 @89 Also I think Elon might have “weird” strength.

Posted by: Allen at January 22, 2024 05:55 PM (YWSUL)

99 The New Neo has covered this topic extensively at her blog. The gist of her position is, Yes, Israeli intelligence had info that something was about to go down, but dismissed it because a) it was relying too much on technological rather than human intelligence, b) Hamas had successfully lulled Israel into a false sense of security, and therefore c) those to whom the warnings were brought simply didn't want to believe them.

Story old as time, really.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 22, 2024 05:49 PM (g0Y4p)

Yup. When experts have the last word.......

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 22, 2024 05:55 PM (BdMk6)

100 Best thing Spielberg has ever done is the Shoah Foundation archives.
A documentary called Let my people go seen in Jr high has given me a life time of study about the Holocaust.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 22, 2024 05:55 PM (VUqXH)

101 90 82 So lefties have moved from celebrating 10/7 to denying it?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 05:51 PM (SExFt)

It didn’t happen. Also it’s awesome it happened,
Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (YofvK)

Must be a day ending in Y.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 22, 2024 05:55 PM (eYoxG)

102 Didn’t O’Bama claim his white grandfather liberated Auschwitz? Or am I mis remembering.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 05:55 PM (YofvK)

103 Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:54 PM (di6C2)

No disrespect meant. However, haven’t we been shown that world leaders, most of them, DGAF about their citizens? Israel, sadly, is one of the most jabbed countries on earth.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 22, 2024 05:56 PM (1jfyW)

104
Elon Musk tweeted about the Patriot Front. He wants to know why someone hasn't followed them and identified them.

In a report today, someone did follow them back to their cars. They all had blank license plates.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist

How does one get away with that? Maybe they are James Bond rotating license plates that got stuck on a blank one.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 22, 2024 05:56 PM (63Dwl)

105 Ahhh, looks like we have someone "just asking questions"

Allow me to be the first to say GFY.

Sorry if I missed someone beating me to that.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 22, 2024 05:56 PM (wNDOJ)

106
Maybe my most cynical epiphany.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 22, 2024 05:52 PM (cf/0E)

_________

Jewish population of Europe
1939: 9.5 million
1970: 3.2 million
2015: 1.3 million

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (yXg8+)

107 Ahhh, looks like we have someone "just asking questions"

Allow me to be the first to say GFY.

Sorry if I missed someone beating me to that.

you refering to my comments?

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (RjBju)

108
There is an edited version of what Eisenhower said when informed of the existence of the death camps and what our troops witnessed.

I would love to hear what he actually said, complete with every obscenity.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (nIvob)

109 Didn’t O’Bama claim his white grandfather liberated Auschwitz? Or am I mis remembering.
Posted by: Montec at January

Doesn't Joe claim to have been the first American to enter the camp?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (SExFt)

110 >>An American enlisted man who fought from Normandy to the end of the war said when his unit liberated a camp he'd go through it all again if it meant stopping this.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:49 PM

I read some years ago about a USAF veteran who'd taken part in the bombing of Dresden and who was asked if he felt bad, dropping bombs on people who never did anything to him. He had the ultimate comeback: "At least I knew I wasn't killing any Jews."

Posted by: Dr. T at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (g0Y4p)

111 85 fwiw, if netanyahu wanted a false flag, this would be the false flag he wanted
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (RjBju)

Seriously ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (n2vyf)

112 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 22, 2024 05:56 PM (63Dwl)

On the right team! Plus you have people telling you, you can’t question things.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (1jfyW)

113 fwiw, if netanyahu wanted a false flag, this would be the false flag he wanted
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (RjBju)

Seriously ?
Posted by: It's

do you not understand false flags?

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:58 PM (RjBju)

114 In law, what Hamas lovers are doing is called alternative pleading.

Posted by: mnw at January 22, 2024 05:58 PM (NLIak)

115 Oregon's only medical school (OHSU) is having issues:

Furnstahl’s memo had more bad news. In a ranking done by Vizient, a health-care consulting company, OHSU dropped to 56th place overall in quality and accountability out of 116 academic medical centers, down from 15th the year before. OHSU ranked near the bottom—105th—in terms of safety, Vizient said.

But since it's Oregon:

One bright spot: OHSU was No. 1 in equity, Vizient said.

They may kill you, but at least staff is checking all the intersectionality boxes...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 22, 2024 05:59 PM (YAtuc)

116 "Both sides"
Thinks the 2020 election was 100% legit
Obviously embarrassed of his commentariat.

I see where this ship is going...
AHOY

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 22, 2024 05:59 PM (DL9fz)

117 Fiddler on the Roof was based on Joe's memories.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 05:59 PM (SExFt)

118 do you not understand false flags?
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:58 PM (RjBju)

Do you understand what a stupid comment that was ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2024 05:59 PM (n2vyf)

119 @104

>>How does one get away with that? Maybe they are James Bond rotating license plates that got stuck on a blank one.

They are a performance act like a sh**ty Blue Man Group, all jazz hands and spirit fingers.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 22, 2024 05:59 PM (XV/Pl)

120 My decision not to pay taxes is "a false flag."

Chew on that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (Q4IgG)

121 113 fwiw, if netanyahu wanted a false flag, this would be the false flag he wanted
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (RjBju)

Seriously ?
Posted by: It's

do you not understand false flags?
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:58 PM (RjBju)

Netanyahu wanted to ultimately end his political career? Because he's done after this security failure.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (eYoxG)

122 47 Ace? What are you talking about here?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:33 PM (xcxpd)

Yeah. I'm a bit confused by this too.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 22, 2024 05:40 PM (BdMk6)

I'm thinking he's still butt mad and not thinking clearly...
I think he flipped the hypothetical that he was 'suggesting' (that we have seen them do several times.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 05:42 PM (di6C2)

Posted by: VAR1ABLE at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (SrP94)

123 500 billion arabs claiming "genocide" ?? I read that over 20k babies been born in Gaza since 10/7/2023.

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (V13WU)

124 lol, Reddit...

Not sure if any of you Morons have ever ventured over there, but if you ever want to just scratch your head at how people can insert leftwing Marxist politics into literally ANY topic or field of interest on the planet, it's a hell of a trip.

You'll read shit there in random subreddits that makes the stuff that gets posted here by the AoS DU Correspondent look milquetoast by comparison.

Posted by: ballistic at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (oqH4h)

125
'N' caused us to lose 'Biden's Dog' as a commenter.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (nIvob)

126 >>fwiw, if netanyahu wanted a false flag, this would be the false flag he wanted
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (RjBju)

You are a retard.

Posted by: garrett at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (0nZCd)

127 Listen here fat I was in Auschwitz with my band of brothers including Korn Pop who’s a real bad dude. And he said to the Germans he said he said he said, in a whispering voice, hdbdbdbjrjedm. And then we went on to Tokyo and liberated the Chinese from the Italian army.
- Joe B.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (YofvK)

128 do you not understand false flags?
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:58 PM (RjBju)

Do you understand what a stupid comment that was ?
Posted by: It's me donna

it is not stupid to somebody that understands false flags. saying that it would be good false flag and that it is are not the same

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:01 PM (RjBju)

129 fwiw, if netanyahu wanted a false flag, this would be the false flag he wanted
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (RjBju)

You are a retard.
Posted by: garr

am I wrong?

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:01 PM (RjBju)

130 Of course the greatest tragedy was that Beau gave his life liberating the Jews at Auschwitz and they repay him by murdering themselves on 10/7 and blaming the innocent Palistinian infants and women.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 22, 2024 06:01 PM (RLLZj)

131 My favorite statement by an ignoranus (and yeah I spelled that right) about 9-11 came from Joy Reid on the View. She boldly asserted that "fire can't melt steel". So it was supposed to be an inside conspiracy job or something. She really wasn't sure what.

It takes a particular level of stupidity, and a very large rectum, and a bad case of cranial rectal insertion (did I mention that Joy is a fathead?) to make a statement like that. But that's Joy Reid.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at January 22, 2024 06:01 PM (cB7nX)

132 Tune into my new podcast, "Fun With False Flags"
Posted by: Sheldon Cooper

Not so fast! I forgot to press "record".

Posted by: Amy Farrah Fowler at January 22, 2024 06:01 PM (iODuv)

133 'N' caused us to lose 'Biden's Dog' as a commenter.

==

say what now ????

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:02 PM (V13WU)

134 Not sure if any of you Morons have ever ventured over there, but if you ever want to just scratch your head at how people can insert leftwing Marxist politics into literally ANY topic or field of interest on the planet, it's a hell of a trip.

You'll read shit there in random subreddits that makes the stuff that gets posted here by the AoS DU Correspondent look milquetoast by comparison.
Posted by: ballistic at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (oqH4h)

—-

Could be a hell of a drinking game. Drink every time Trump is mentioned in a non political sub. It could be cute puppies and kittens and someone within 5 comments will mention Trump or a variation of him.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:02 PM (YofvK)

135 I read some years ago about a USAF veteran who'd taken part in the bombing of Dresden and who was asked if he felt bad, dropping bombs on people who never did anything to him. He had the ultimate comeback: "At least I knew I wasn't killing any Jews."
Posted by: Dr. T at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (g0Y4p)

USAAF. There was no USAF in WWII.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 22, 2024 06:02 PM (BdMk6)

136 Netanyahu wanted to ultimately end his political career? Because he's done after this security failure.
Posted by: R

he was about done anyway, nothing unifies better than war

not saying it was

would somebody do a false flag to hurt themselves?

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:03 PM (RjBju)

137 >>> I'm thinking he's still butt mad and not thinking clearly...
I think he flipped the hypothetical that he was 'suggesting' (that we have seen them do several times.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at
-------------------

Again

Posted by: Braenyard at January 22, 2024 06:03 PM (5WOkT)

138
say what now ????

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:02 PM

I watch what goes on and how some shit gets past the Cobs and I know that was the reason he bolted.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:04 PM (nIvob)

139 'N' caused us to lose 'Biden's Dog' as a commenter.

Forewarned is forearmed.
Posted by: Pub

bs

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:04 PM (RjBju)

140 >>am I wrong?

Yes. You are wrong.

And also. When I say you are are a Retard I don't mean the enduring type. Like Corky.
Or, even the heartbreaking type that just sits there and drools.

You sir, are a Retard by Choice. You could have taken another path.
But you decided to choose retardation.

Posted by: garrett at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (0nZCd)

141 If it was a Netanyahu false flag he did it wrong; shoulda taken out the Israeli Supreme Court.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (Z8kKz)

142 who benefits?
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:55 PM (RjBju)

Ok, let's play.

It's obvious on the Pali side, they saw the video of torture and rape as a propaganda tool. Look at what you can do, fightin for Mohammed! Also, look how defenseless you are, Jews of Israel.

IF Israel let this occur, what have they gained? Sure they have mitigated somewhat the constant rocket attacks, but at the same time you still have more open anti-Semitism moving both here and abroad. You still have the same international pressure to roll over and take it. And even in a brute numbers calculation, consider this: Israel was under constant bombardment and low grade attacks. 1400 in a lump a (and the negative morale hit that was), does it offset by what they have 'gained'? And what have they gained? I'd say the same people who were for them are more for them and those who were against them are more against them.

I don't know that anyone has benefited, except in that it has made people more comfortable to show anti-Semitism and tie it to the gestalt leftist cause.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (di6C2)

143
What happens when a false flag of the Left really IS a false flag of the Left?

Like what Pelosi and the FBI did on 1/6. If that wasn't planned by them, they knew ahead of time that any meshugas and excitement by Ray Epps and William Sullivan types would be blown into an actual Trump-led insurrection.

And that is exactly what they did. Until my dying day I believe it because I and we all saw it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (x0n13)

144 I watch what goes on and how some shit gets past the Cobs and I know that was the reason he bolted.
Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:04 PM (nIvob)

He bolted ?? when ?

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (V13WU)

145 85 'fwiw, if netanyahu wanted a false flag,'

Worth about as much as anything you've said.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (roH4R)

146 N, bro, just stop.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (YofvK)

147 An example of what has been going on is that Haaretz, the New York Times of Israel (only even more loathsome) ran an article saying that an Israeli police helicopter may have shot a handful of Israelis at the music festival while counterattacking Hamas on October 7th.

Israel Police furiously denies this, but the pro-Hamas people have transmuted this into: "Most Israelis killed at the music festival were killed by IDF Apache helicopter gunships. Even Haaretz admits it."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (YAtuc)

148 125
'N' caused us to lose 'Biden's Dog' as a commenter.

Forewarned is forearmed.
Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:00 PM (nIvob)

Wut?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (xcxpd)

149 So False Flags are false?

Posted by: ...and here it comes at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (VYnM/)

150 you refering to my comments?

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (RjBju)

Do you think I am?

****Spoiler alert****

I am.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (wNDOJ)

151 fwiw, if netanyahu wanted a false flag, this would be the false flag he wanted
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (RjBju)

You’re a disgusting POS. I hope you and your family, though I doubt that you have one, DIAF.

Posted by: A Know Nothing at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (gxRWI)

152 Yes. You are wrong.

And also. When I say you are are a Retard I don't mean the enduring type. Like Corky.
Or, even the heartbreaking type that just sits there and drools.

You sir, are a Retard by Choice. You could have taken another path.
But you decided to choose retardation.
Posted by: gar

nothing I said was wrong, just saying how false flag work

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:06 PM (RjBju)

153 Haters and other death-cultists are easy to spot.

Posted by: setnaffa at January 22, 2024 06:06 PM (jeNdr)

154
bs

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:04 PM

That's not a denial is it? You're out of your league here. Head over to Stormfront where you belong.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:06 PM (nIvob)

155 Not to be confused with a False Fag.

Posted by: ...and here it comes at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (VYnM/)

156 149 So False Flags are false?

Posted by: ...and here it comes at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (VYnM/)

Right, I suppose.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (Z8kKz)

157 Odd, someone altered my quote. I did not say the 'butt' part, I would have gone with 'ass mad.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (di6C2)

158 Auschwitz is good object lesson in what Democrats do when they attain absolute power.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (tkR6S)

159 "The more they talk Israel (or Conservatives) doing false flag ops, the more convinced I am that Hamas and Democrats are planning false flag ops."

Case in point: J6.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (gxokI)

160
Commenter "N" is Netanyahu.

Heh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (x0n13)

161 Is a false, false flag, a true flag?

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (YofvK)

162 >>nothing I said was wrong, just saying how false flag work

Go play with your feces. Retard.

Posted by: garrett at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (0nZCd)

163 155 Not to be confused with a False Fag.
Posted by: ...and here it comes at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (VYnM/)

Lil Nas X?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (xcxpd)

164 Hey N, did the Holocaust happen?

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 22, 2024 06:08 PM (wNDOJ)

165 131

RE: "fire can't melt steel"

That wasn't the race lady on The View. That was Rosie O'Donnell.

Posted by: mnw at January 22, 2024 06:08 PM (NLIak)

166 61
Europe will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 22, 2024 05:46 PM (yXg8+)

There's always something, all right. At least this one they had to hide for a while.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2024 06:08 PM (eoQWY)

167 125
'N' caused us to lose 'Biden's Dog' as a commenter.'

What'd he do, bite him?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 22, 2024 06:08 PM (roH4R)

168 it is not stupid to somebody that understands false flags. saying that it would be good false flag and that it is are not the same
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:01 PM (RjBju)

If you believe that Netenyahu intentionally acted to cause a situation where he knew that his own citizens would be murdered, raped and kidnapped for his own political gain, please say so openly and plainly, instead of this mincing, honorless side reference in hypotheticals.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 22, 2024 06:08 PM (D7oie)

169 I don't think Gaza would be a good place to visit right now.

Posted by: The Flaming 20s at January 22, 2024 06:08 PM (vFG9F)

170 The more they talk Israel (or Conservatives) doing false flag ops, the more convinced I am that Hamas and Democrats are planning false flag ops.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:31 PM (xcxpd)

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2024 06:09 PM (tkR6S)

171 More and more low IQ ideologues are coming out in te open proclaiming they should be removed from the gene pool.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 22, 2024 06:09 PM (17s+e)

172 >>>> And that is exactly what they did. Until my dying day I believe it because I and we all saw it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
-----------------------

Yep. It wasn't orchestrated, like the Philharmonic, it was more free form but they all knew their parts and played them well.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 22, 2024 06:09 PM (5WOkT)

173 Anyway, just saw Palmetto State Armory's SHOT show products. There's a 10mm, a .22 and a .45 ACP Dagger on display. AND they're gonna be making a pump shotty.

#Want.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:09 PM (xcxpd)

174 so with everything we have been through since 9/11, covid, j6, everything it does not even warrant consideration as part of what might have happened here?

is there any serious intel division that would not ask the qutstion when it happened?

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:10 PM (RjBju)

175 This story was on left wing blogs October 8th. It was being repeated in the comments on some, supposedly, right wing blogs by Oct 10-11 or so. Several of which I stopped reading because of all the NatSoc commenters.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 22, 2024 06:11 PM (KBjAN)

176 *doubt that commenter Biden's Dog would leave because of some troll

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:11 PM (V13WU)

177 It's kind of hard to make that claim when Jihad Johnnie was live streaming it.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at January 22, 2024 06:11 PM (qZdIZ)

178 What happens when a false flag of the Left really IS a false flag of the Left?

Like what Pelosi and the FBI did on 1/6. If that wasn't planned by them, they knew ahead of time that any meshugas and excitement by Ray Epps and William Sullivan types would be blown into an actual Trump-led insurrection.

And that is exactly what they did. Until my dying day I believe it because I and we all saw it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (x0n13)

----------------

* The "pipe bombs" suspiciously not investigated that were planted at the RNC and DNC HQs in DC on 1/6 by the Feds have entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- I did not come here to guide lambs, I came here to awaken lions at January 22, 2024 06:11 PM (3awxI)

179 want to just scratch your head at how people can insert
STEINER WILL COME
into literally ANY topic

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 22, 2024 06:11 PM (XYu4n)

180 I have heard that Israeli forces showed up sooner than first reported and implemented something called The Hannibal Directive where they prevent hostages "by any means necessary."

And that this was not initially reported for the obvious reason that some (?) of the Israeli citizens were killed by friendly fire. The reports I read said that the friendly fire may have gotten out of hand, and included Apache's machine gunning cars on road, tank blasting a Kibbutz held by the invaders but full of hostages, and firing into the woods where concert goers were seeking shelter.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 22, 2024 05:43 PM (kWbXR)

At least in the 70s it was common knowledge that Israel would risk the death of hostages to free them. The death of the Olympic team in 72, the raid on Entebbe. I don't know if they changed that policy, but I am surprised anyone is surprised.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2024 06:12 PM (eoQWY)

181 do what I do, kids, scroll right past him

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:12 PM (V13WU)

182 What happens when a false flag of the Left really IS a false flag of the Left?

Like what Pelosi and the FBI did on 1/6. If that wasn't planned by them, they knew ahead of time that any meshugas and excitement by Ray Epps and William Sullivan types would be blown into an actual Trump-led insurrection.

And that is exactly what they did. Until my dying day I believe it because I and we all saw it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (x0n13)

This. Just like Nov 3, 2020 or J6 or 10/7. If you are all inculcated in the same mythos, it does not necessarily HAVE to be a grand coordination, just knowing how people will respond and that they will do their part. Sure, someone somewhere planned, but for the most part, it was people doing what they saw they had the opportunity to do. And doing it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:12 PM (di6C2)

183 Words again.

Posted by: DOYLE at January 22, 2024 06:12 PM (Z8Yh2)

184
'Biden's Dog' was a decent Israeli guy who I conversed with a lot in the am Tech Treads because of the time difference.

'N' went after him one night and BD recently announced he's taking a break.

This is what happens when the shitheads don't get the banhammer.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:12 PM (nIvob)

185 Auschwitz is good object lesson in what Democrats do when they attain absolute power.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2024 06:07 PM (tkR6S)

Democrats/socialists. It's been tried so many times and the results end up the same.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 22, 2024 06:13 PM (BdMk6)

186 We have to consider that Lexington and Concord might have been false flags.

Posted by: The Flaming 20s at January 22, 2024 06:13 PM (vFG9F)

187 I don't know that anyone has benefited, except in that it has made people more comfortable to show anti-Semitism and tie it to the gestalt leftist cause.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:05 PM (di6C2)

Iran benefitted by stalling Israel's diplomatic progress with their Arab rivals. Hamas is an Iranian proxy. It's not a super complicated situation.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 22, 2024 06:13 PM (eYoxG)

188 there are a lot of rumors, and every time there is an event, The Hannibal Directive is brought up

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:13 PM (V13WU)

189 183 Words again.
Posted by: DOYLE at January 22, 2024 06:12 PM (Z8Yh2)

What are words for?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:13 PM (xcxpd)

190 In all the chaos of 10/7 it’s not that far fetched to think there was friendly fire on the part of Israeli police and IDF. It’s quite likely. It’s also stupid of the govt to hide it if there was. Like always the coverup is worse than the crime.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:13 PM (YofvK)

191 179 want to just scratch your head at how people can insert
STEINER WILL COME
into literally ANY topic
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 22, 2024 06:11 PM (XYu4n)

It can fit in pretty much anything that touches on the GOPe, you must admit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:13 PM (di6C2)

192
Are not trans pyrsyns by definition self-genociders?

Sterility, what do it mean?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 22, 2024 06:14 PM (XeTAE)

193 Anyway, just saw Palmetto State Armory's SHOT show products. There's a 10mm, a .22 and a .45 ACP Dagger on display. AND they're gonna be making a pump shotty.

#Want.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:09 PM

10mm will put hair on your chest.

Posted by: Your FBI at January 22, 2024 06:14 PM (a3Q+t)

194 If you believe that Netenyahu intentionally acted to cause a situation where he knew that his own citizens would be murdered, raped and kidnapped for his own political gain, please say so openly and plainly, instead of this mincing, honorless side reference in hypotheticals.
Posted by: Kin

i am not saying that,
have not said that and
do not believe that,

what I am saying is that to just dismiss it out of hand because what gov would harm its citizens, given what govs have done, is a bit naieve

did you not hear about the vid and the vaxx?

who has not lied to us? there was a hq story about bush jr working to bring in more immigrants.

there's not anybody that I have voted for or supported that has not screwed us

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:14 PM (RjBju)

195 it does not even warrant consideration as part of what might have happened here?

In order to "warrant consideration" there would have to be SOME evidence of it. There is none. The murderous scum filmed themselves in the act and rejoicing.

Embrace your new title as "retard", retard.

Posted by: Halfhand at January 22, 2024 06:14 PM (+MgZd)

196 191 179 want to just scratch your head at how people can insert
STEINER WILL COME
into literally ANY topic
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 22, 2024 06:11 PM (XYu4n)

It can fit in pretty much anything that touches on the GOPe, you must admit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:13 PM (di6C2)

And a lot of WWE promos

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:14 PM (xcxpd)

197 This is what happens when the shitheads don't get the banhammer.

===
that is a shame.

yankeefith needed to be banned a long time ago - the assholery of that one is legendary

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:14 PM (V13WU)

198 N, what do you suppose Israel or Netanyahu gained?

Was it money? Those Joos do love money don't they? Not sure expending all of that ordinance is a money-making venture.

What did they gain by their enemies seeing Iron Dome overwhelmed, their women raped, their soldiers executed?

Do you suppose they couldn't have attacked Gaza without this, if they had, for some reason, really fucking wanted to attack Gaza with less justification? They haven't gained any international support, virtually every country opposes their counterattack, including the banana republic once known as the US.

You, sir, are a dumb son of a bitch.

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (4O4h5)

199 179 want to just scratch your head at how people can insert
STEINER WILL COME
into literally ANY topic

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 22, 2024 06:11 PM (XYu4n)

When will that GrubHub order come?

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (N1WhU)

200 'N' went after him one night and BD recently announced he's taking a break.

This is what happens when the shitheads don't get the banhammer.
Posted by: Publi

bs

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (RjBju)

201 Iran benefitted by stalling Israel's diplomatic progress with their Arab rivals. Hamas is an Iranian proxy. It's not a super complicated situation.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 22, 2024 06:13 PM (eYoxG)

Hmmm, valid. I was more attacking the 'false flag' portion of the question re: the directly involved parties.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (di6C2)

202 of course , ignoring his stupid ass is another option

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (V13WU)

203 Everybody knows Pearl Harbor was an op.

Posted by: The Flaming 20s at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (vFG9F)

204 168 Kindltot

Same poster who drove Teresa in Fort Worth (TiFW) away from AoS for quite a while, by suggesting she give her husband a blowjob instead of a Christmas gift.

Same poster who calls other posters "Sugar Tits."

Notice the nexus between stupidity & vulgarity?

Posted by: mnw at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (NLIak)

205 back to topic, FALSE FLAG

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (V13WU)

206 193 Anyway, just saw Palmetto State Armory's SHOT show products. There's a 10mm, a .22 and a .45 ACP Dagger on display. AND they're gonna be making a pump shotty.

#Want.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:09 PM

10mm will put hair on your chest.
Posted by: Your FBI at January 22, 2024 06:14 PM (a3Q+t)

It's a 13 rounder in a G19-sized frame. If it will work with G20 mags, I'm gonna buy one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM (xcxpd)

207 Posted by: mnw at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (NLIak)

really ? and he is still around ???

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM (V13WU)

208 10mm will put hair on your chest.
Posted by: Your FBI

And pain in your hand.

Posted by: MkY at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM (cPGH3)

209

This is what happens when the shitheads don't get the banhammer.
Posted by: Publi

bs

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM

Then why did you talk shit about his mother? You need to be gone.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM (nIvob)

210 35 The camp at Auschwitz was just a place where people could work to better themselves. See? It says so right on the sign.

Posted by: The Left, 100 million bodies and counting at January 22, 2024 05:39 PM (+MgZd)
----
Ah I see, Apprentice School.

Posted by: Ciampino at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM (qfLjt)

211 runner, totally conceivable. This is happening on his doorstep and his family is directly involved. To have some fucking armchair contriarian mouthing at him is a bridge too far.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM (VUqXH)

212 A black bear got tangled up in my Florida house's downspout a couple nights ago, ripping it off the wall and bending what was straight into an ell.

Ms G was in bed reading, the bear on the outside wall behind her, I was elsewhere playing music.

Bear probably thought, WTF was that?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 22, 2024 06:17 PM (KiBMU)

213 Are not trans pyrsyns by definition self-genociders?

Sterility, what do it mean?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 22, 2024 06:14 PM (XeTAE)

I will point to the eugenicists of the early 20th century (also including the Nazis- but not ONLY the Nazis) looking to sterilize the undesirables. Now they are getting people to do it themselves. Demand it, even.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:17 PM (di6C2)

214 197
'yankeefith needed to be banned a long time ago'

That explains the familiar stench.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 22, 2024 06:17 PM (roH4R)

215 can you call a color revolution a "false flag", I mean , it fits the definition

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:17 PM (V13WU)

216 203 Everybody knows Pearl Harbor was an op.
Posted by: The Flaming 20s at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (vFG9F)

—

Shhh
- zombie FDR

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (YofvK)

217 runner, totally conceivable. This is happening on his doorstep and his family is directly involved. To have some fucking armchair contriarian mouthing at him is a bridge too far.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM (VUqXH)

I hear you.

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (V13WU)

218 Anyway, just saw Palmetto State Armory's SHOT show products. There's a 10mm, a .22 and a .45 ACP Dagger on display. AND they're gonna be making a pump shotty.

#Want.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist...

-

I heard something about a Dagger Mini recently. I don't keep up so I don't know if that means it's here, it's coming, or it's just the slide, but if it's a G30 or 26 sized piece that would be interesting.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - Click to see the HQ after DeSantis concedes to Nikki at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (2WOSG)

219 208 10mm will put hair on your chest.
Posted by: Your FBI

And pain in your hand.
Posted by: MkY at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM (cPGH3)

It's not that bad out of a G20. Other handguns, like metal frame tools, yeah. Can be snappy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (xcxpd)

220 like I said, ignoring is the way to go

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (V13WU)

221 There’s bears in Florida?

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (YofvK)

222 The more they talk Israel (or Conservatives) doing false flag ops, the more convinced I am that Hamas and Democrats are planning false flag ops.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:31 PM (xcxpd)

We're not even through the first month of 2024. They're in their final planning stage.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (BdMk6)

223 From The Washington Post:

A small but growing group denies...what group WP?
Some argue...who exactly WP?
Others say...what others WP?

Jeez. If you clowns had been in my journalism 101 class, the prof and retired.editor, would flunk your sorry asses.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 22, 2024 05:53 PM (W/lyH)
________________

Face it: they're making up shit.

It's that simple.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 22, 2024 06:19 PM (N8WbB)

224
Seriously ?
Posted by: It's me donna

Yeah, either a very hateful guy or a troll posting so people can say 'see that place is bad'.

I tend to consider the source when I read something that doesn't make sense so I'm able to skip the drivel.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 22, 2024 06:19 PM (2VYyL)

225 I heard something about a Dagger Mini recently. I don't keep up so I don't know if that means it's here, it's coming, or it's just the slide, but if it's a G30 or 26 sized piece that would be interesting.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Click to see the HQ after DeSantis concedes to Nikki at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (2WOSG)

Their Dagger Mini is a G43x sized pistol. It has a weird 15 round polymer/metal mixed mag. I don't want to get into new magazines (because I live in WA state and this state sucks now) but if I can use my existing Glock mags, I'm all in.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:19 PM (xcxpd)

226 bs
Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (RjBju)

there is a difference between being a contrarian making statement to stir up conversation, and being a contrarian who defends his position because he can't stand being wrong.

allow yourself to be wrong. Or at least allow yourself to be disagreed with. Everyone has an opinion. If you are going to fight to the death, make sure it is worth it, and not just some random thought you managed to type down.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 22, 2024 06:19 PM (D7oie)

227 It's a 13 rounder in a G19-sized frame. If it will work with G20 mags, I'm gonna buy one.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM

If they make a G17-sized one that I could cut the grip down to G19 size, I'd buy one (cf. the G49)

Otherwise, the G20/40 Gen5s have some nice improvements.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 22, 2024 06:19 PM (a3Q+t)

228
Then why did you talk shit about his mother? You need to be gone.
Posted by: Pu

what are you talkng about?

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:19 PM (RjBju)

229 runner you are absolutely right.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 22, 2024 06:19 PM (VUqXH)

230 203 Everybody knows Pearl Harbor was an op.

Posted by: The Flaming 20s at January 22, 2024 06:15 PM (vFG9F)

Pancho Villa's incursion into New Mexico was an op to get the US in Mexico...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 22, 2024 06:19 PM (N1WhU)

231
'Biden's Dog' was a very decent Israeli who did not need some American filth impugning his mother. So he bowed out gracefully.

It got past the Cobs.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (nIvob)

232 I don't believe IDF has killed 25,000 Palestinian women, children, elderly, etc., or even in the region of that number. I do believe Hamas and PIJ are responsible for tens of thousands deaths of 'their' own people. They care not for a large majority of their elderly, women, girls...why would they care for other's?

I don't believe the U.S. has made an outstanding effort to help free ALL Hamas hostages, including our citizens, children & the elderly. That's not what we were all that long ago.

Posted by: L - cell, but still Confident they're working the rope-a-dopes at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (GshMh)

233 like I said, ignoring is the way to go
Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (V13WU)

Ignore whom?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (SExFt)

234 222 The more they talk Israel (or Conservatives) doing false flag ops, the more convinced I am that Hamas and Democrats are planning false flag ops.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 05:31 PM (xcxpd)

We're not even through the first month of 2024. They're in their final planning stage.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 22, 2024 06:18 PM (BdMk6)

Yeah, I'm worried about this year. Quite a bit. At least the primaries are effectively over.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (xcxpd)

235 If a one denies being a contrarian is he a contrarian?

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (YofvK)

236 Yep. Black Bear in Florida.

Amazingly, NJ is covered up them, too.

Posted by: garrett at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (0nZCd)

237 So OT, ACB voted that Border Patrol can cut TX razor wire. She needs an illegal bus pulling up to her place.

Posted by: ...and here it comes at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (VYnM/)

238 I think they are pissed off that Musk went to Auschwitz that did not happen , but hey totally want emulated.

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (V13WU)

239 The Pearl Harbor one is one that has been floating in the pool forever.

I get what they are saying as far as motive and opportunity. I can't buy the will to carry it out. I hate Roosevelt with the heat of 1000 suns, but I do not buy that he would intentionally do it. Was it a gigantic clusterfuck of epic proportions? Probably.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (di6C2)

240 Matt Drudge?

Posted by: VAR1ABLE at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (SrP94)

241 This denialism is disgusting, but it does point something out - the leftist elite feel exactly that way about people like us.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (lTGtQ)

242 Ignore whom?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (SExFt)

exactly !

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (V13WU)

243 Its pretty clear that the trigger for this op was Hamas losing its last chance to get something out of the alliance/trade deal the Saudis and Israel were finalizing and they were kicked out of the meeting shortly before.

They were pissed, and likely pulled this op out of the contingency drawer to get the upper hand and/or to break up improving relations in the area. So I don't think this was under Iranian orders, because they were not ready to move which they would have been if a true conquer Israel plan was triggered.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2024 06:22 PM (eoQWY)

244 227 It's a 13 rounder in a G19-sized frame. If it will work with G20 mags, I'm gonna buy one.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:16 PM

If they make a G17-sized one that I could cut the grip down to G19 size, I'd buy one (cf. the G49)

Otherwise, the G20/40 Gen5s have some nice improvements.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 22, 2024 06:19 PM (a3Q+t)

I do like the Gen 5's I've shot. I SHOULD have bought the G26 Gen 5 instead of buying a Gen 3 frame and then trying to buy a slide separately...oy what a shit show that turned into...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:22 PM (xcxpd)

245
allow yourself to be wrong. Or at least allow yourself to be disagreed with. Everyone has an opinion. If you are going to fight to the death, make sure it is worth it, and not just some random thought you managed to type down.
Posted by: Ki

that I allow myself to be wrong is why I question everything. how do you watch what happened with 9/11, covid, teh vaxx, biden, and everything and just accept anything from any gov unquestioningly?

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:22 PM (RjBju)

246 Don't get me wrong, i don't deny the concept of the Holocaust. I wish it had happened.

Posted by: Rashida Tlaib at January 22, 2024 06:22 PM (RVqCe)

247 10/7 Was a dual track, "lack of imagination" and Chauncey Gardner, "We Like To Watch," failure.

Heads need to roll when this over, but first the palis need to be inflicted a maximum serving of pain and then a forceful ejection form Israeli soil.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 22, 2024 06:22 PM (XV/Pl)

248 'Biden's Dog' was a very decent Israeli who did not need some American filth impugning his mother. So he bowed out gracefully.

It got past the Cobs.
Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (nIvob)

this is getting worser and worser....

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:23 PM (V13WU)

249 207 runner

Still around? I would say so!

It's N! It's all the same asshoe.

Posted by: mnw at January 22, 2024 06:23 PM (NLIak)

250 I did not see why Biden's Dog (who seems like good people) left, just when he announced it on the Tech thread.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:23 PM (di6C2)

251 239 The Pearl Harbor one is one that has been floating in the pool forever.

I get what they are saying as far as motive and opportunity. I can't buy the will to carry it out. I hate Roosevelt with the heat of 1000 suns, but I do not buy that he would intentionally do it. Was it a gigantic clusterfuck of epic proportions? Probably.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (di6C2)

I don't know for sure, but it sure feels like someone in FDRs admin 'let' the attack happen. I could be wrong of course, WW2 has enough drama for a thousand different novels.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:23 PM (xcxpd)

252 246 Don't get me wrong, i don't deny the concept of the Holocaust. I wish it had happened.
Posted by: Rashida Tlaib at January 22, 2024 06:22 PM (RVqCe)

I shouldn't have laughed at that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:24 PM (xcxpd)

253 250 I did not see why Biden's Dog (who seems like good people) left, just when he announced it on the Tech thread.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:23 PM (di6C2)
That's a shame... I enjoyed what he had to say

Posted by: It's me donna at January 22, 2024 06:24 PM (n2vyf)

254 235 If a one denies being a contrarian is he a contrarian?

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (YofvK)

Not necessarily (channeling Monty Python)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 22, 2024 06:24 PM (N1WhU)

255 I don't believe IDF has killed 25,000 Palestinian women, children, elderly, etc., or even in the region of that number. I do believe Hamas and PIJ are responsible for tens of thousands deaths of 'their' own people. They care not for a large majority of their elderly, women, girls...why would they care for other's?

I don't believe the U.S. has made an outstanding effort to help free ALL Hamas hostages, including our citizens, children & the elderly. That's not what we were all that long ago.
Posted by: L - cell, but still Confident they're working the rope-a-dopes at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (GshMh)

Yeah the "civilian deaths" probably is partly plain lie and Hamas fighters. I'm sure a good number did happen though since they hide behind them at every opportunity. This is why you don't provoke wars if you care about your civilians.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2024 06:25 PM (eoQWY)

256 236 Yep. Black Bear in Florida.

Amazingly, NJ is covered up them, too.
Posted by: garrett at January 22, 2024 06:20 PM (0nZCd)

So I hear. And don't get me started on the Jersey Devil...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:25 PM (xcxpd)

257 239 The Pearl Harbor one is one that has been floating in the pool forever.

I get what they are saying as far as motive and opportunity. I can't buy the will to carry it out. I hate Roosevelt with the heat of 1000 suns, but I do not buy that he would intentionally do it. Was it a gigantic clusterfuck of epic proportions? Probably.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (di6C2)

Indeed. I am no FDR fan, but The Enemy Gets A Vote. And no, moving the Pacific Fleet from one American port to another does...nothing. The Japanese were going to do what they were going to do regardless.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 22, 2024 06:25 PM (8sMut)

258 'Biden's Dog' was a decent Israeli guy who I conversed with a lot in the am Tech Treads because of the time difference.

'N' went after him one night and BD recently announced he's taking a break.

This is what happens when the shitheads don't get the banhammer.
Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:12 PM (nIvob)

I believe he was here this morning.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2024 06:25 PM (tkR6S)

259 Florida's black bear population rivals any other state that has the species. Look at the map on Google Earth, to see how much is wild when you get inland.

In our case, a relatively high-population metro area on the Gulf, there are huge areas inland of wild forest and swamp. The bears go where the garbage is, and can smell it 25 miles out.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 22, 2024 06:25 PM (KiBMU)

260 'N' went after him one night and BD recently announced he's taking a break.

this is a flat out lie,

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:26 PM (RjBju)

261 I would think Florida would be kind of hot and humid for black beans.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 06:26 PM (SExFt)

262 there are rumors of another phased hostage release deal . this is new news, btw.

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:26 PM (V13WU)

263 Apache's machine gunning cars on road, tank blasting a Kibbutz held by the invaders but full of hostages, and firing into the woods where concert goers were seeking shelter.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 22, 2024 05:43 PM (kWbXR)
----

Instant death by friendly fire or torture? From the horrors perpetrated on hostages, I believe Isatael made the right call. Also sounds like Israel is under no illusions about what Hamas does to prisoners.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at January 22, 2024 06:27 PM (tT6L1)

264 Palis: The holocaust is a lie.

Also Palis: visit our store in the West Bank dedicated to Nazi memorabilia, called Hitler.

And yes that is a real store.

Posted by: Montec at January 22, 2024 06:27 PM (YofvK)

265 I believe he was here this morning.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2024 06:25 PM (tkR6S)

nyet

Posted by: runner at January 22, 2024 06:28 PM (V13WU)

266
I did not see why Biden's Dog (who seems like good people) left, just when he announced it on the Tech thread.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:23 PM

I saw what led up to it and understood why he wanted to walk away from the comment section. He said he would still read Ace but (implied) he didn't want to engage with people who the Cobs aren't always around to expunge.

I don't blame the Cobs who can't be here 24/7. But they should know and since JJ is here I suspect the problem will be resolved.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:28 PM (nIvob)

267 It should be easy enough to verify, just go to the ONT before the tech thread where he said he was taking a break.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:29 PM (di6C2)

268 Also the victim caste system and where
your head is placed upon the victim totem pole.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 22, 2024 06:29 PM (J8LnB)

269 I saw what led up to it and understood why he wanted to walk away from the comment section. He said he would still read Ace but (implied) he didn't want to engage with people who the Cobs aren't always around to expunge.

I don't blame the Cobs who can't be here 24/7. But they should know and since JJ is here I suspect the problem will be resolved.
Posted by: Public

pics or it didn't happen

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:29 PM (RjBju)

270 Heh, Rob Schneider just ripped the cross dresser at United Airlines a new one.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 22, 2024 06:31 PM (lTGtQ)

271
I believe he was here this morning.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 22, 2024 06:25 PM

Erroneous memory. Easily resolved. Show me the comment.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:31 PM (nIvob)

272 266 PSA

No, it won't!

He must have photos of the cobs with a sheep. Otherwise he would've been banned 10 times over already.

Posted by: mnw at January 22, 2024 06:31 PM (NLIak)

273 OT, but ... from a DNC bleg:

"FIRST: Abortion became a constitutionally protected right on this day in 1973.

THEN: In June 2022, Donald Trump’s Supreme Court picks provided the deciding votes to overturn Roe v. Wade, putting our reproductive freedoms in grave danger.

NOW: We’re at the start of another pivotal election year, and Democrats nationwide are fighting to win statehouses, governorships, ballot measures, and more to protect reproductive freedoms at every level."

Which Constitutional amendment is it that protects abortion? I must have missed it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 22, 2024 06:31 PM (a3Q+t)

274 239 The Pearl Harbor one is one that has been floating in the pool forever.

I get what they are saying as far as motive and opportunity. I can't buy the will to carry it out. I hate Roosevelt with the heat of 1000 suns, but I do not buy that he would intentionally do it. Was it a gigantic clusterfuck of epic proportions? Probably.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (di6C2)

I don't know for sure, but it sure feels like someone in FDRs admin 'let' the attack happen. I could be wrong of course, WW2 has enough drama for a thousand different novels.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:23 PM (xcxpd)

I'd tend to believe it more if the carriers were far off for that day instead of nearby - Enterprise entered harbor the next day. Lexington was a bit farther off but in the area she might have been spotted if the Japanese hadn't routed northward on the way back. The US had been on alert for a month previous to Dec 7 and stood down on that day to give people a rest. Japan had planned to hit them the week before but were delayed.

Sometimes the other side gets lucky on you, that's all.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2024 06:32 PM (eoQWY)

275
He must have photos of the cobs with a sheep. Otherwise he would've been banned 10 times over already.
Posted by: mnw

or I have not violated any rulz

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:32 PM (RjBju)

276 I hate Roosevelt with the heat of 1000 suns, but I do not buy that he would intentionally do it. Was it a gigantic clusterfuck of epic proportions? Probably.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

How would that conversation have gone, anyway?

"Mr. President, we have actionable intelligence that Japan will be attacking Pearl Harbor on December 7. I know that you want us to be at war with Germany, so my suggestion is we don't stop Japan's attack, so after the attack we will be at war with Japan and Germany"

"How will us declaring war with Japan bring about war with Germany?"

"Well, Hitler will declare war on us first, so problem solved"

"What if Hitler doesn't declare war on us? Then we'll just be at war with Japan and the American people will want us to redirect whatever help we are giving Britain to be turned against Japan"

"Whoops!"
"Whoopsie!"

Posted by: Chuck C at January 22, 2024 06:32 PM (xttsV)

277 "Then why did you talk shit about his mother? You need to be gone.:

I remember that...something like "Now do your Mother" in reply to Now do X.

Totally off the wall shitheadism.

Don't deny fucker.

Posted by: pawn at January 22, 2024 06:33 PM (QB+5g)

278 270 Heh, Rob Schneider just ripped the cross dresser at United Airlines a new one.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 22, 2024 06:31 PM (lTGtQ)

Roy Scheider died in 2008. I misread the comment at first and had to look it up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:33 PM (di6C2)

279 The Pearl Harbor one is one that has been floating in the pool forever.

I get what they are saying as far as motive and opportunity. I can't buy the will to carry it out. I hate Roosevelt with the heat of 1000 suns, but I do not buy that he would intentionally do it. Was it a gigantic clusterfuck of epic proportions? Probably.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:21 PM (di6C2)

The US was actively helping the Chinese Nationalists in Burma, and giving out lend-lease trucks via the British and establishing and running airplane factories in Burma to aid them as well. Believing the Japanese were going to accept that forever was wishcasting by Congress and Roosevelt

Posted by: Kindltot at January 22, 2024 06:33 PM (D7oie)

280 109
Doesn't Joe claim to have been the first American to enter the camp?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 22, 2024 05:57 PM (SExFt)
----
Wasn't that Beau?

Posted by: Ciampino - bad memory at January 22, 2024 06:34 PM (qfLjt)

281 Roy Scheider died in 2008.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:33 PM

Hopefully he's found a bigger boat.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 22, 2024 06:35 PM (a3Q+t)

282 Nood. Hits that are quick.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 22, 2024 06:35 PM (di6C2)

283
Sorry, but if you want to attack an Israeli someone for their opinion by bringing their mother into it, and their mother's ashes may have ended up in a pond in Poland?

Fuck 'N'.

Troll got his five minutes tonight. I'm done.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 22, 2024 06:36 PM (nIvob)

284 Indeed. I am no FDR fan, but The Enemy Gets A Vote. And no, moving the Pacific Fleet from one American port to another does...nothing. The Japanese were going to do what they were going to do regardless.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 22, 2024 06:25 PM (8sMut)

There is a better case for McArthur in the Philippines. After getting notice for Pearl Harbor, he put his planes up for the estimated time of a raid from Formosa. When that didn't happen, they all landed for lunch. Which is when the Japanese raid hit, being delayed by fog a few hours and destroyed a lot of planes on the ground making the defense of the islands that much harder.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2024 06:36 PM (eoQWY)

285 "Then why did you talk shit about his mother? You need to be gone.:

I remember that...something like "Now do your Mother" in reply to Now do X.

Totally off the wall shitheadism.

Don't deny fucker.

1. not denying anything

2. that is not going after anybody

3. that is just normal hq banter

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:36 PM (RjBju)

286 Posted by: Chuck C at January 22, 2024 06:32 PM (xttsV)

Well you're half right. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and got everyone enraged and...70% of our war materials went immediately to the European theater. There were no offense plans re: Japan at all until MacArthur got famous and Adm King decided more or less on his own to greenlight Guadalcanal.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:36 PM (xcxpd)

287 Sorry, but if you want to attack an Israeli someone for their opinion by bringing their mother into it, and their mother's ashes may have ended up in a pond in Poland?

Fuck 'N'.

Troll got his five minutes tonight. I'm done.
Posted by: Public

show the comment or quit lying

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:37 PM (RjBju)

288 Regarding 9-11 everybody knows that WTC-7 was deliberately pulled, right? It didn't fall down in sympathy for the other ones.

Posted by: The Tinfoil Hat at January 22, 2024 06:38 PM (PWI4f)

289 277 pawn

Speaking of off-the-wall shitheadism:

Teresa In Fort Worth (TiFW) posted a note about how she hadn't decided what to get her husband for Christmas. Our boy said, "Give him a blowjob. He'll like that better."

TiFW also announced she was taking a break from posting here.

Our man N explained that TiFW actually LIKED his post.

Posted by: mnw at January 22, 2024 06:39 PM (NLIak)

290 Regarding 9-11 everybody knows that WTC-7 was deliberately pulled, right? It didn't fall down in sympathy for the other ones.
Posted by: The Tinfoil Hat at January 22, 2024 06:38 PM (PWI4f)

Have you been listening to Adam Curry?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 22, 2024 06:39 PM (D7oie)

291 The US was actively helping the Chinese Nationalists in Burma, and giving out lend-lease trucks via the British and establishing and running airplane factories in Burma to aid them as well. Believing the Japanese were going to accept that forever was wishcasting by Congress and Roosevelt
Posted by: Kindltot at January 22, 2024 06:33 PM (D7oie)

Another factor was the embargo of US oil and scrap metal to Japan he'd done in the summer. Intended to delay the start of war it instead made them go into overdrive to secure the Dutch East Indes oil before they ran out of both.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2024 06:39 PM (eoQWY)

292 Speaking of off-the-wall shitheadism:

Teresa In Fort Worth (TiFW) posted a note about how she hadn't decided what to get her husband for Christmas. Our boy said, "Give him a blowjob. He'll like that better."

TiFW also announced she was taking a break from posting here.

Our man N explained that TiFW actually LIKED his post.
Posted by: mnw

its the hq

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:39 PM (RjBju)

293 Well you're half right. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and got everyone enraged and...70% of our war materials went immediately to the European theater. There were no offense plans re: Japan at all until MacArthur got famous and Adm King decided more or less on his own to greenlight Guadalcanal.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:36 PM

Yes, because Hitler decided to declare war on us. There was no treaty requiring that, so what if Germany doesn't declare war?

Posted by: Chuck C at January 22, 2024 06:40 PM (xttsV)

294
Our man N explained that TiFW actually LIKED his post.
Posted by: mnw

what Isaid is she said she did not quit because of it , which she said

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:41 PM (RjBju)

295 I think N likes being accused of hurting people.

He likes it. Leave him his small pleasures.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 22, 2024 06:41 PM (D7oie)

296 I think N likes being accused of hurting people.

He likes it. Leave him his small pleasures.
Posted by: Kin

sigh

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:42 PM (RjBju)

297 yes, sexual banter and crude comments are not appropriate for the hq.

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 06:43 PM (RjBju)

298 Posted by: Chuck C at January 22, 2024 06:32 PM (xttsV)

Well you're half right. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and got everyone enraged and...70% of our war materials went immediately to the European theater. There were no offense plans re: Japan at all until MacArthur got famous and Adm King decided more or less on his own to greenlight Guadalcanal.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 22, 2024 06:36 PM (xcxpd)

True enough, but the war plan Rainbow had already determined that immediate offensives to save US holdings weren't going to happen, PH or no PH. Losing the obsolete battleships ironically gave the rest of the Navy a lot of experienced men to fit into the remaining ships. The first priority was to secure bases to protect the line of communication to Australia to retain it but the carriers had been raiding bases for training purposes long before Guadalcanal, as well as fighting Coral Sea and Midway.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 22, 2024 06:46 PM (eoQWY)

299 @261 I don’t think black beans care.

Posted by: Allen at January 22, 2024 06:48 PM (/50l+)

300 I have as much respect for N's opinion as those of a syphillitic Crack whore

Posted by: Ben Had at January 22, 2024 06:49 PM (VUqXH)

301 Dear shit head,

I hope you are getting the message.

Maybe tone down your shit head remarks because you are definitely running against the grain here.

I've been smelling your shit for a while now.

Posted by: pawn at January 22, 2024 06:53 PM (QB+5g)

302 Check out the Ringer's postmortem on Sports Illustrated- no mention of the Swimsuit Issue.

Posted by: MikeN at January 22, 2024 06:59 PM (XygMV)

303 Dear shit head,

I hope you are getting the message.

Maybe tone down your shit head remarks because you are definitely running against the grain here.

I've been smelling your shit for a while now.
Posted by: paw

Show where anything I said was wrong

Eabod

Posted by: N at January 22, 2024 07:05 PM (RjBju)

304 The October 7th attack does appear to be a false flag attack by Israel to justify a war on Gaza.

Israel has a long history of false flag attacks:

King David hotel bombing in 1946 (done by Israel's future leaders)

Lavon Affair bombings in Egypt in 1954, designed to be blamed on Muslims.

USS Liberty attack in 1967, which killed over 30 American sailors and injured close to 200.

A series of false flag bombings in Lebanon in the 1980s created to justify a war in the country.

9/11, which was designed to justify an American war on Israel's enemies in the Middle East.

This page has lot of evidence for Israel's involvement in 9/11 (remove spaces to access link):

https :// binkylarue. substack. com/p/ israel-and-elements-of- the-us-government

Israel is NOT our friend, but our greatest enemy. The problem is, they pretty much control our country right now.

Posted by: William at January 22, 2024 07:31 PM (u2BSL)

305 Isn’t it interesting how one troll: (N) managed to derail the entire conversation?

Posted by: Allen at January 22, 2024 07:34 PM (Fob1X)

306 Clean up on aisle 304, please.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 22, 2024 07:39 PM (KATBx)

307 This chap William at 305 doesn't seem to understand what the concept of "false flag" actually involves.

Posted by: Bill the Butcher at January 22, 2024 09:31 PM (gDRaE)

308 Bill the Butcher,

Just look at the evidence I present in the link. It is very clear that the official account of what happened on 9/11 is false and that Israel was behind the attacks. I had always supported Israel, until I woke up in just the last couple of months to what that country did to us on 9/11. Most people don't dig into the details about the attacks and I didn't until just recently. Once I researched 9/11, the truth about it became pretty obvious.

Posted by: William at January 22, 2024 09:38 PM (u2BSL)

309 False flags happen. There start to be issue when the false flag is the unfounded accusation of a false flag. Layers upon layers. Nauseating.

Posted by: Myopic Contender at January 22, 2024 10:00 PM (sHAbL)

310 Either October 7 was a false flag operation or Hamas managed to outsmart and the money is no object vaunted Israeli intelligence community and defense establishment.

Posted by: Eric at January 22, 2024 10:33 PM (FdsNM)

311 Against UNFOUNDED claims of a false flag operation? Sure. But there ARE false flag operations. J6 was a false flag operation. It was a Reichstag fire.

Some mass shootings are false flag operations too. That Robert Crimo leftist who shot up the July 4 parade outside of Chicago a year and a half ago was an anti-gun a-hole who was explicit that he was doing it to advance gun control.

That's what he told his father the night before the shooting. They had talked about a mass shooting that just occurred in Europe and the son said that the reason mass shooters do it is "to amp up the people who want to ban all guns."

Posted by: Alec Rawls at January 22, 2024 11:33 PM (wh9C3)

312 There's MASSIVE evidence that many of the supposed "mass sh0otings" reported in national media are either h0axes or false flags. For example, at Sandy Hook, the police cruiser dashcam video showed ZERO children being evacuated, even though it was parked facing across the parking lot where any evacuation would've taken place. There should've been 400+ children evacuated but ZERO are on video. Also ZERO shown on the TV news helicopter footage.

There's a smoking gun photo that shows the first responders, portable mortuary, and crime scene tape up at the school, but some of the windows that were eventually shot out by "Lanza" (and shown shot out in other photos) still intact. So it was either staged, or the first responders arrived before Lanza.

The State of Connecticut CHANGED THE LAW to avoid releasing the autopsy reports and crime scene photos, even those of the adult victims and gun man. What was the public not supposed to learn?

Several of the "bullet holes" in the wall of the school were made at perfect 90 degree angles, which isn't what happens during a shooting, but would happen if they were made with a drill.

The Las Vegas "mass shooting" is even more a joke.

Posted by: Fred at January 23, 2024 01:34 AM (/tyfs)

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