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Gun Thread: Third Sunday of 2024 Edition!
Fundamentals
Show of hands - how many of you went to the range in the last couple of weeks and practiced the fundamentals of marksmanship? I don't mean standing still and vaguely aiming at the center of the target plinking, but really, seriously, focused on the elements of stance, grip mechanics, sight-alignment and trigger squeeze as you were shooting? This doesn't mean you cannot enjoy the process and have fun with your shooting pals, but if you want to improve you need to be thinking while you are shooting. Here's an AMU guy covering the basics in under 3 minutes.
Guns of the Horde
Well our pal Ed L has been busy with a Colt New Model Army Revolver so take it away Ed L!!
If it's remembered at all today, the Colt New Model Army Revolver is remembered as a failure that set the US Army down the path that culminated in the famous Colt M1911 semiautomatic pistol. But if the New Model Army is a failure, it's a very influential failure. The .38 Long Colt cartridge's ineffectiveness against the Moro tribal warriors is well known. Less well known are some of the New Model Army's other failings. The Colt New Model Army's greatest weakness was not its .38 Long Colt cartridge, but its operating mechanism. Unlike all other Colt revolvers before and since, the New Model Army's cylinder rotates counter-clockwise. As the "hand" that pushes the cylinder wore down with use, the rotation of the cylinder tended to go "out of time." This results in the chamber not completely lining up with the barrel, posing a danger to the user. The direction of the cylinder rotation contributes to the problem. It's also possible to rotate the cylinder clockwise when the operating mechanism is at rest. The Colt New Service reversed the cylinder rotation to clockwise and changed the operating mechanism to lock the cylinder in place when not in use. This basic operating mechanism is largely the same one used on Colt revolvers today. Smith and Wesson (S&W) tried to capitalize on the Colt New Model Army's failure by mating their new .38 Special cartridge with their Model 1899 revolver. Christened the "Military and Police," S&W's proposed it as a replacement for the Colt. Rebuffed by the US Army, S&W went on to develop the .44 Special and the .357 Magnum cartridges in their quest for military contracts. S&W continued developing ever more powerful revolver cartridges through the 20th century, with the .500 Magnum being the most recent entry. S&W had to find a locking method suitable for counter clockwise rotation of the cylinder. The operating mechanism used in the Military and Police revolver's 4th Change Model of 1905 remains mostly unchanged in S&W revolvers today.
This Colt New Model Army revolver is a Model 1901, identified by the markings on the bottom of the butt and the lanyard ring, the principal difference between it and earlier models. The initials "R.A.C" (for Rinaldo A. Carr, US Army Civilian Sub-Inspector) are on the bottom of the wooden grips. His initials also appear on the frame and cylinder, signifying US Army acceptance of revolver and its major parts. Note the patent dates on the top of the barrel. Despite its failings, the Army and Navy dragged Colt New Model Army revolvers out of storage in 1917 at the outbreak of WWI. Some made their way to France in the hands of support units such as engineers, railroad, and signal troops. After WWI, most were sold as surplus.
The New Model Army can still be found at gun shows and pawn shops today. But it should be treated as either a paperweight or safe queen. It's not safe to shoot with modern commercial ammunition. The problem is that the cylinder can chamber .38 Special and .357 Magnum cartridges and fire both, as shown in the photos (.38 Special is the blue snap cap, .357 Magnum is the dark red snap cap). The .38 Long Colt cartridge generates about 13,000 psi of pressure. The .38 Special generates about 17,500 psi of pressure. .357 Magnum generates about 35,000 psi of pressure. .357 Magnum should NEVER be fired from this revolver. Doing so is likely to be fatal. Note the difference in the thickness of the steel in the top strap of the New Model Army on the right and the 1962 Colt Python on the left.
Situational Awareness
I am constantly amazed by how oblivious people can seem to be, walking along wearing headphones and checking their phones. Our very own Nurse R can tell us a thing or two about the importance of being aware of what's going on around us. Let's see what Mas Ayoob has to say.
Spare Magazine
Wonder How The Glock Works?
Here is one of those cool animation videos on how stuff works.
Armed Attorneys: Federal Safe Passage
The provisions of 18 U.S. Code § 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms - says you're allowed to go from point A to point B without a bunch of hassle between the two. Naturally, it's a wee tad more complicated than that.
Rickshaw Production
Wonder how your rickshaw was manufactured? Well your 'ol pal Weasel has you covered!
Toys of Yesteryear
Toys were just better in the olden days!
Civil Defense in Schools
School boards sure did tackle different issues in the olden days!
Musical Interlude
Here is EC with Nathan East and Can't Find My Way Home
Gun Basics 101
New video from the She Equips Herself gal! This week's video is on thigh holsters!.
Possibly the best-known cigar tobacco coming out of Brazil is either the aripiraca, or mata fina, leaf. The former is used as a wrapper in several good cigars, the latter usually is filler. Drew Estate's Herrera Esteli Brazilian Maduro puts the mata fina on the outside. The result is a nice flavorful maduro. It has a Connecticut broadleaf binder, and Nicaraguan fillers. My example was the Lonsdale Deluxe size (6 X 44). I got mellow sweetish earth flavors, with definite hints of chocolate or cocoa at various points, and some tangy notes as well. I would put it on the milder end of medium-full, in terms of profile. The burn required some touching up, but the draw was easy and perfect. You can find these cigars online in the $7-8 dollar rangeExcellent, rhomboid! Thank you!
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Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
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Comments
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Howdy horde! Now onto the content...
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 07:00 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Guns out!
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:00 PM (32nmx)
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Bang bang
Posted by: Eromero at January 21, 2024 07:01 PM (NxC5+)
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oregano
Posted by: Ciampino - Not English cooking? at January 21, 2024 07:01 PM (qfLjt)
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Yay! Gubs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:02 PM (Wnv9h)
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Good evening everyone.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2024 07:02 PM (qoGsy)
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Good evening everyone
Been on a Hog hunting video watching lately, looks like lots of fun, don't see the disposable of the carcasses
Been on a Hog hunting video watching lately, looks like lots of fun, don't see the disposable of the carcasses
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 07:03 PM (fwDg9)
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Gun thread, now I can relax and just read about good stuff!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 21, 2024 07:05 PM (hOUT3)
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Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea.
Let's talk expectation setting. The number is 360. Three. Six. Zero.
Don't let weasel down.
Let's talk expectation setting. The number is 360. Three. Six. Zero.
Don't let weasel down.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 07:06 PM (IFNME)
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Here!
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 07:07 PM (ABWoE)
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Aye aye Captain Blaster. Three six zero.
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I'm trying to find some Jarts. Somhow mine were lost in a move. I believe they can be had as parts one assembles.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 21, 2024 07:08 PM (6098b)
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Finally I can welcome the Gun Thread with something besides guilt about being somehow blocked about resuming my shooting.
Went to the range yesterday with Mrs Splunge, for the first time in maybe 20 years. We had an instructor, to ease us into everything.
She was firing her new Glock 43, for the first time. It was the one that fit her hand at the store. Went very well. I was firing my S&W 6906, which I'd had for a long time, but had not fired much, and not for 20 years.
It went very very well. The instructor got our grips and stances squared away, and we started ripping through ammo, of which I clearly do not have enough. Not one shot escaped the rubber, vaguely torso-and-head-shaped target, even when we speeded up, and the vast majority were within the large circles, even when we backed up to 15 yards.
A successful day at the range, at long last, with many more soon to follow. I had forgotten how much pure joy I get from shooting.
Went to the range yesterday with Mrs Splunge, for the first time in maybe 20 years. We had an instructor, to ease us into everything.
She was firing her new Glock 43, for the first time. It was the one that fit her hand at the store. Went very well. I was firing my S&W 6906, which I'd had for a long time, but had not fired much, and not for 20 years.
It went very very well. The instructor got our grips and stances squared away, and we started ripping through ammo, of which I clearly do not have enough. Not one shot escaped the rubber, vaguely torso-and-head-shaped target, even when we speeded up, and the vast majority were within the large circles, even when we backed up to 15 yards.
A successful day at the range, at long last, with many more soon to follow. I had forgotten how much pure joy I get from shooting.
Posted by: Splunge at January 21, 2024 07:08 PM (BAbpt)
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 07:09 PM (RG6z4)
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Evening all!!
Good to hear you and the fam survived the road trip Weasel.
I myself am weighing the options of a road trip in October versus flying. Will make that decision around April or so.
No range report. Mainly be staying in the apartment and out of the COLD. Full work week tomorrow so I am going to have an early evening tonight.
Good to hear you and the fam survived the road trip Weasel.
I myself am weighing the options of a road trip in October versus flying. Will make that decision around April or so.
No range report. Mainly be staying in the apartment and out of the COLD. Full work week tomorrow so I am going to have an early evening tonight.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 21, 2024 07:11 PM (f0/sc)
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No range time, unfortunately. The health situation took a turn for the worse. Fortunately, it's not nearly as bad as what I had before Christmas, but, still annoying as I'd barely gotten back to feeling somewhat like myself. And yeah, missed the thousand yard match yesterday.
That's two matches I've missed due to whatever seasonal colds are out there. Yay me.
On the up side, I did find out one of our local ranges has what they call "The Patriot Mile," 1,776 yards. It's now on my list of things to try and accomplish this year. We shall see.
That's two matches I've missed due to whatever seasonal colds are out there. Yay me.
On the up side, I did find out one of our local ranges has what they call "The Patriot Mile," 1,776 yards. It's now on my list of things to try and accomplish this year. We shall see.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:11 PM (tT6L1)
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Well, I'm a bit housebound. The car went on the fritz and AAA has to pick it up tomorrow (doubtful, ice storm on the way) or Tuesday and take it to the car hospital. Occupying time with a gun cleaning lalapalooza, big time with the punches and screwdrivers. Amazing the crud you find in those little places that don't see daylight often.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 07:11 PM (0EOe9)
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SpaceX Starlink SpaceX's 7th Launch of 2024,
Starlink 7-11 Mission| Falcon 9
January 21st at 8:50 p.m. ET
Link #1 http://tinyurl.com/2s4e6a9w
Link #2 http://tinyurl.com/mrrup82m
Space is a great place to get rid of bodies.
Starlink 7-11 Mission| Falcon 9
January 21st at 8:50 p.m. ET
Link #1 http://tinyurl.com/2s4e6a9w
Link #2 http://tinyurl.com/mrrup82m
Space is a great place to get rid of bodies.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space no one can hear you shoot at January 21, 2024 07:12 PM (qfLjt)
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Good Glock video Weasel. The same channel has a "how it works" video for several other gubs, including a revolver, shotgun, AR-15 and AK-47.
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 07:12 PM (IQ6Gq)
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We need to hit 360 comments? Is it okay to cheat?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:13 PM (tT6L1)
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Slow evening? Everybody watching sportsball?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 21, 2024 07:13 PM (ln6cw)
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Your calendar seems to be missing a few days...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:14 PM (UlPt4)
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Today was a DMV MGC and Mini-Mome. Smaller than usual the winter weather took its toll on attendance.
We set up with an SP5k and EP9 (both dotted) on one lane and handguns on the other - 2 Sig P226s and a Sig P320 from the rental shop. My P226 was recently re-sighted - put on so new X-RAY3s on and removed the dot. The transplant was a success.
I was surprised at how well the P320 shot in comparison with the P226s. Now a Legion P320 RXP with a dot is beoming a potential candidate for a new full size shooter.
We set up with an SP5k and EP9 (both dotted) on one lane and handguns on the other - 2 Sig P226s and a Sig P320 from the rental shop. My P226 was recently re-sighted - put on so new X-RAY3s on and removed the dot. The transplant was a success.
I was surprised at how well the P320 shot in comparison with the P226s. Now a Legion P320 RXP with a dot is beoming a potential candidate for a new full size shooter.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 07:14 PM (IFNME)
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Current number of food thread comments is 369....just saying....
Posted by: Grateful at January 21, 2024 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq)
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OT, Desantis ends 2024 campaign, throws support to the golden scalp weasel.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 21, 2024 07:16 PM (u5DUI)
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It looks like I will have more free time to spend at the range now.
Posted by: Ron D at January 21, 2024 07:16 PM (vFG9F)
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Read an article today regarding Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency officers - Before 2022, the TWRA could secretly place trail cams or similar devices on private lands and officers could visit any private lands without permission. These visits or placement of devices were not during investigations of crimes necessarily but rather whenever they chose.
The TWRA was sued and in late '22 the courts held that these such actions were, essentially, warrantless searches and therefore, illegal.
Still winding through the appeals process as near as I can figure.
No range time this week - way too fooking cold. However, I did redo the vehicle boom stick racks and case.
The TWRA was sued and in late '22 the courts held that these such actions were, essentially, warrantless searches and therefore, illegal.
Still winding through the appeals process as near as I can figure.
No range time this week - way too fooking cold. However, I did redo the vehicle boom stick racks and case.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2024 07:16 PM (qoGsy)
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21 Slow evening? Everybody watching sportsball?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 21, 2024 07:13 PM (ln6cw)
Not me. Watching wife. Making sure she doesn't try to get up without help. She already fell once doing this (and I was in the room, too), so being more vigilant. Why yes, that means less sleep for me.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 21, 2024 07:13 PM (ln6cw)
Not me. Watching wife. Making sure she doesn't try to get up without help. She already fell once doing this (and I was in the room, too), so being more vigilant. Why yes, that means less sleep for me.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:17 PM (UlPt4)
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Oh yeah, there's a new offering out there by Kimber I need to acquire: Kimber KDS9c.
Though, I have to laugh because they're being lauded for the black out rear sight with the fiber front.
Shoot, I put that sight arrangement on my Kimber years ago.
Though, I have to laugh because they're being lauded for the black out rear sight with the fiber front.
Shoot, I put that sight arrangement on my Kimber years ago.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:17 PM (tT6L1)
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Your calendar seems to be missing a few days...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:14 PM (UlPt4)
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Well it was free!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:14 PM (UlPt4)
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Well it was free!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (RG6z4)
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TukTuk welder dude gonna be blind one day soon, I don't care how quick he closes his eyes be fore he strikes an arc. Mr. TukTuk needs to buy that guy a shield.
Posted by: Eromero at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (NxC5+)
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I simply love road trips, especially to the great State of Tennessee...neighbor headed down to UTK to drop off son for this semester and I wanted to offer to go along...instead I'm focused on this white stuff that fell this week and the ensuing ice...totally offends the So CA blood that I built for way too long....
Posted by: Grateful at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I wasn't going to go off thread. Can you recommend a good cigar to assuage defeat?
Posted by: Ron D at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (vFG9F)
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Not gubby but gub adjacent - sra blaster and I bought a dump truck.
One of those Japanese mini-truck dump trucks. We ordered it from Japan. It will be a little bit before we get it. But it will be a farm implement, instead of a side by side.
Should be helpful in plan to build 100 yard range this year.
One of those Japanese mini-truck dump trucks. We ordered it from Japan. It will be a little bit before we get it. But it will be a farm implement, instead of a side by side.
Should be helpful in plan to build 100 yard range this year.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (IFNME)
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Hornady did it again!! I knew the 22 ARC was coming out and after running the numbers I'm all in. It's basically a 6.5 Grendel necked down to 22 cal, I'll be shooting the 88gn bullets at around 2800 fps.( .545 BC) Pretty cool for an AR-15. I'm on the waiting list for a 24" Faxon barrel and a 22" Ranier Arms barrel. I have 3 6mm Arc's and they use the same bolt so it fits in to my arsenal perfectly Thanks for the thread as always Weasel!
Posted by: ck at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (ljHmZ)
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Good evening. Gunthusians. I sure wish a pig or
10 would amble through here.
10 would amble through here.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:19 PM (2obW2)
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The cigar is resting against the Garand I just fully disassembled and cleaned (I do this rarely, since they don't seem to really need it, and those wise in the ways of the M1 say "lock-up" is key to accuracy, and can degrade over time if you take the receiver out of the stock frequently).
Some funkiness in the disassembly - the op rod would *not* come out of the receiver slot without fairly robust pressure on it down where it is over the barrel. This is a new thing.
But function was fine. The first 4 cases fired of the first clip ejected at almost 90 degrees, vs. the 30 degrees (1 to 2 o'clock) that is normal. Odd.
What remains a mystery is how the load that has not changed for years, and has long required 13 clicks up for centered elevation on the target, now requires 16 clicks. ??? A mystery that will remain, as I just ran out of 4064 and now will be using TAC for the 30-06 reloads.
Some funkiness in the disassembly - the op rod would *not* come out of the receiver slot without fairly robust pressure on it down where it is over the barrel. This is a new thing.
But function was fine. The first 4 cases fired of the first clip ejected at almost 90 degrees, vs. the 30 degrees (1 to 2 o'clock) that is normal. Odd.
What remains a mystery is how the load that has not changed for years, and has long required 13 clicks up for centered elevation on the target, now requires 16 clicks. ??? A mystery that will remain, as I just ran out of 4064 and now will be using TAC for the 30-06 reloads.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2024 07:20 PM (GcNJ2)
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The Colt Army being able to chamber .38 Special or .357 Mag should remind us of many guns that will chamber, fire, and function with various ammos. Some can also grenade on you. One famous or notorious pistol handling many types of rounds is the Astra 400. These were advertised by Interarms as being capable of digesting about anything 9mm, but things can get dangerous. Really, they are only for 9mm Bergman Bayard or .38 ACP. They will chamber a host of 9mm rounds, fire most, and function in a manner. How long before bad things happen is a guess. If you ever encounter one, examine the frame carefully for any cracks or signs of stress as .38 Super will work in them (for awhile, anyway).
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 07:20 PM (0EOe9)
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It looks like I will have more free time to spend at the range now.
Posted by: Ron D at January 21, 2024 07:16 PM (vFG9F)
So will Ron Desantis
Posted by: Ron D at January 21, 2024 07:16 PM (vFG9F)
So will Ron Desantis
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 21, 2024 07:20 PM (ln6cw)
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30 Your calendar seems to be missing a few days...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:14 PM (UlPt4)
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Well it was free!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (RG6z4)
Some months have 31 days, some have 30. How many have 27?
A: all of them, including Weasels!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:14 PM (UlPt4)
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Well it was free!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (RG6z4)
Some months have 31 days, some have 30. How many have 27?
A: all of them, including Weasels!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:20 PM (UlPt4)
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No range time for me this week, but after our impending travels it's going to be get serious time...join the range and 1:1 instruction. Then a gun purchase, or two....
Posted by: Grateful at January 21, 2024 07:21 PM (IQ6Gq)
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"Whenever I am shooting, I mentally review what I am about to do in terms of stance, grip, sight alignment and trigger pull as I get to the line, and then with each and every shot I really focus on at least one of these elements"
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My main problem with a pistol is grip squeeze. Unless I'm concentrating on preventing that I shoot low left. I might be just griping incorrectly. Next time I'm at the range I'll get someone to school me. Did get my carry permit renewed, so that's good.
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My main problem with a pistol is grip squeeze. Unless I'm concentrating on preventing that I shoot low left. I might be just griping incorrectly. Next time I'm at the range I'll get someone to school me. Did get my carry permit renewed, so that's good.
Posted by: javems at January 21, 2024 07:22 PM (8I4hW)
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**waves to Ben Had***
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 07:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
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3 I wasn't going to go off thread. Can you recommend a good cigar to assuage defeat?
Posted by: Ron D at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (vFG9F)
Some folk here can be...blunt...about it.
Posted by: Ron D at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (vFG9F)
Some folk here can be...blunt...about it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:22 PM (UlPt4)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks for the forum and other due consideration provided by our host Weasel.
2nd session of the Concealed Carry competition shoot is this coming Friday at my local freedom store. (First experience writeup is in the Weaselqueue.) I'm going to try to climb out of the bottom of the standings, though the competition is pretty stout.
2nd session of the Concealed Carry competition shoot is this coming Friday at my local freedom store. (First experience writeup is in the Weaselqueue.) I'm going to try to climb out of the bottom of the standings, though the competition is pretty stout.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 07:22 PM (v23vE)
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@ck, I'm looking at Hornady's ELD-VT bullets, too. They look like they're going to be very good.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:22 PM (tT6L1)
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"Show of hands - how many of you went to the range in the last couple of weeks and practiced the fundamentals of marksmanship?"
Actually, my last two range sessions I did just that and it made a difference. After such a long time without shooting I expected the target to look like it had freckles but the results were pretty good. Slow pace, aware of breathing, paying close attention to trigger pull, it all helped. A side benefit is I went through less ammo and with a better outcome. I'm used to a slower pace because of my black powder shooting; trigger discipline is another matter. Big hands make it easy to have my last knuckle on the trigger instead of the pad. But paying attention to that really works.
There's a time for casual plinking but I need to get the fundamentals better cemented in place.
Actually, my last two range sessions I did just that and it made a difference. After such a long time without shooting I expected the target to look like it had freckles but the results were pretty good. Slow pace, aware of breathing, paying close attention to trigger pull, it all helped. A side benefit is I went through less ammo and with a better outcome. I'm used to a slower pace because of my black powder shooting; trigger discipline is another matter. Big hands make it easy to have my last knuckle on the trigger instead of the pad. But paying attention to that really works.
There's a time for casual plinking but I need to get the fundamentals better cemented in place.
Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2024 07:23 PM (zudum)
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To add to Blaster's range report:
i have been considering the P226 as my next purchase so was thrilled to have Blaster's older model and Ed's new MK25 to compare. I was going to rent another but the guy at the range talked me into trying the P320 instead. I shot mediocre with pretty much all three. The MK25 felt the best in my hand but I had trouble with the sighting. I was low. I adjusted and shot okay but felt like i had to aim high. Don;t have that problem with the sight on the Glock. Ed pointed out that the MK25 has night sights so that may have been the difference.
Maybe think about a P226 with a red dot. Problem solved!
i have been considering the P226 as my next purchase so was thrilled to have Blaster's older model and Ed's new MK25 to compare. I was going to rent another but the guy at the range talked me into trying the P320 instead. I shot mediocre with pretty much all three. The MK25 felt the best in my hand but I had trouble with the sighting. I was low. I adjusted and shot okay but felt like i had to aim high. Don;t have that problem with the sight on the Glock. Ed pointed out that the MK25 has night sights so that may have been the difference.
Maybe think about a P226 with a red dot. Problem solved!
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 07:23 PM (t/2Uw)
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Good evening, Ben Had.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:23 PM (tT6L1)
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I was so happy! I was able to identify the .32 ACP handgun used as a murder weapon in a Columbo just from freezing-frame when it was on-screen and 'net searching, confirming it at the Internet Movie Firearms Database.
http://tinyurl.com/yc438rs2
And I've seen them all -- Eddie Albert, Robert Culp, William Shatner, George Wendt, and Ray Milland.
http://tinyurl.com/yc438rs2
And I've seen them all -- Eddie Albert, Robert Culp, William Shatner, George Wendt, and Ray Milland.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 21, 2024 07:24 PM (2yu8s)
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TRex and Grateful, Hi and I hope you both are well.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:24 PM (2obW2)
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Nice review rhomboid. That is a nice cigar.
Cigar fans. A friend of mine is the president of the White House Historical Association and he has pointed me towards Liberty Cigars. They offer several different series, The Presidents, Washington Commanders, and others. Check them out online. Looks awesome and I will be testing a few in the near future.
Cigar fans. A friend of mine is the president of the White House Historical Association and he has pointed me towards Liberty Cigars. They offer several different series, The Presidents, Washington Commanders, and others. Check them out online. Looks awesome and I will be testing a few in the near future.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 07:25 PM (W/lyH)
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The DMV MGC was a good outing. Thanks to the group. The compare/contrast was helpful. I had good success with the P226 but the P320 was good too. For a newbie, it may be a good entry point - less $$ than the P226. Getting close to just needing to get something and get good on it. We could spend ages evaluating hardware.
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 07:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Never leave home without a belt buckle gun.
Posted by: Sex Machine Tom Savini at January 21, 2024 07:26 PM (ZnrCl)
55
Blake, we need to start little confab about Oct.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:27 PM (2obW2)
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I forgot to mention, thanks Ed L for the historical knowledge. That stuff is always fascinating for me.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:27 PM (tT6L1)
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Howdy, Horde! Watched "Bullitt" this week for the first time since I originally saw it at the Levy Theater in downtown Enterprise, Alabama as a young sprout. Yeah, the car chase was still awesome, but even more so was the bad guy's choice of weapon. It was that first time seeing one on the screen that ignited my lust for, and a lifelong love of, the Winchester Model 1897 with a short barrel. Yes, there have been great improvements to shotguns over the years, but something about that exposed hammer just expresses the ultimate in Badassery.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 21, 2024 07:27 PM (PWe8a)
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Very slow duty day at the range this month. In terms of members or day customers - the USN was emptying brass with gusto on two of the smaller ranges. A destroyer and an LCS crew doing their qualifications.
One of my crew did bring a K31, and I got to shoot it, first time for that platform. Very interesting straight-pull, and funky bolt action. Recoil was not bad at all. I recall about a decade ago when Classic had K31s - real beauties in great shape - in abundance on their website.
A group of deer decided to flaunt their protected status by grazing on some winter weeds out at the 200-yd line, just barely off to the right of the last lane. Always amusing. They ambled off before the first shooter was shooting.
One of my crew did bring a K31, and I got to shoot it, first time for that platform. Very interesting straight-pull, and funky bolt action. Recoil was not bad at all. I recall about a decade ago when Classic had K31s - real beauties in great shape - in abundance on their website.
A group of deer decided to flaunt their protected status by grazing on some winter weeds out at the 200-yd line, just barely off to the right of the last lane. Always amusing. They ambled off before the first shooter was shooting.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2024 07:29 PM (GcNJ2)
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TRex is being modest. He shot pretty fantastic.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 07:29 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:29 PM (tT6L1)
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OK...rant time.
I ordered a base and rings for my new scope. Just to be safe, I emailed Winchester to determine whether I had a long or short action. Gave them all the data and a serial # for the rifle. So...short action. Base ordered. When it arrived yesterday, it was...wait for it...too short. Grrrr.....
I must now return the base, double check measurements with Ken Farrell ( great help line, btw), and get a new base.
*sigh*
Thanks, Winchester.
I ordered a base and rings for my new scope. Just to be safe, I emailed Winchester to determine whether I had a long or short action. Gave them all the data and a serial # for the rifle. So...short action. Base ordered. When it arrived yesterday, it was...wait for it...too short. Grrrr.....
I must now return the base, double check measurements with Ken Farrell ( great help line, btw), and get a new base.
*sigh*
Thanks, Winchester.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:29 PM (Wnv9h)
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Some years back I bought disassembly books for rifles and handguns. Helped me strip and clean a number of Dad's guns. The '68 Berreta was a mess as Dad used it and NEVER cleaned it.
C'mon Dad! I cleaned mine after every use!
Rest in peace Dad; you didn't have to die on my birthday two years ago.
C'mon Dad! I cleaned mine after every use!
Rest in peace Dad; you didn't have to die on my birthday two years ago.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:29 PM (br28R)
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Hmmmm, good video from Ayoob. I would instead, though, call "Black" the aftermath. That's how it is in the military with chem attacks - Black is the post-attack phase.
We hear from the "Armed Attorneys" all the time, and others, advising us how to deal with police, etc. And this is the "Condition Black" I would propose. The event is over (or you have escaped the event), now you need to NOT go immediately to Condition White - which is what most people do, post-adrenalin-dump.
Instead, don't let your guard down. Don't do stupid things like pick up the bad guy's gun. Move your firearm to a non-threatening state while maintaining alertness. Look for casualties which you might be able to administer first-aid or direct others to do so. And keep watch over your tongue so you don't give the prosecutor something with which to work against you.
Once the post-event part has worked itself out, and you get home, THEN you can go Condition White and let yourself lose control and such.
I also really liked what he said about Condition Yellow. It's not a condition of paranoia, but of looking around you and seeing what's going on.
We hear from the "Armed Attorneys" all the time, and others, advising us how to deal with police, etc. And this is the "Condition Black" I would propose. The event is over (or you have escaped the event), now you need to NOT go immediately to Condition White - which is what most people do, post-adrenalin-dump.
Instead, don't let your guard down. Don't do stupid things like pick up the bad guy's gun. Move your firearm to a non-threatening state while maintaining alertness. Look for casualties which you might be able to administer first-aid or direct others to do so. And keep watch over your tongue so you don't give the prosecutor something with which to work against you.
Once the post-event part has worked itself out, and you get home, THEN you can go Condition White and let yourself lose control and such.
I also really liked what he said about Condition Yellow. It's not a condition of paranoia, but of looking around you and seeing what's going on.
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:30 PM (32nmx)
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Blake, thank you and I will do.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:31 PM (2obW2)
65
I had forgotten how much pure joy I get from shooting.
Posted by: Splunge at January 21, 2024 07:08 PM (BAbpt)
The best part of your range report.
Posted by: Splunge at January 21, 2024 07:08 PM (BAbpt)
The best part of your range report.
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:32 PM (32nmx)
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I've been watching the Hornady podcasts lately. Outstanding info and they really get into deep detail on whatever subject they're talking about. Great ballistics info, cartridge design, you name it. Really smart guys talking about things that interest me. That ELD-VT looks like the ultimate varmint rig, I'm going to go with the 88gn ELD-M because I shoot paper. LOL
Posted by: ck at January 21, 2024 07:32 PM (ljHmZ)
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The people are retarded.
Well, the Baghwan Rajneesh. Sure tried to prove that once in Eastern Oregon. what an ass.
Well, the Baghwan Rajneesh. Sure tried to prove that once in Eastern Oregon. what an ass.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 07:32 PM (W/lyH)
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Love the Army Colt. There is something about old iron that draws me.
Posted by: javems at January 21, 2024 07:32 PM (8I4hW)
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52 Nice review rhomboid. That is a nice cigar.
Cigar fans. A friend of mine is the president of the White House Historical Association and he has pointed me towards Liberty Cigars. They offer several different series, The Presidents, Washington Commanders, and others. Check them out online. Looks awesome and I will be testing a few in the near future.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 07:25 PM (W/lyH)
Dennis Prager had (has?) them as advertisers. He pimped their stuff on air quite often
Cigar fans. A friend of mine is the president of the White House Historical Association and he has pointed me towards Liberty Cigars. They offer several different series, The Presidents, Washington Commanders, and others. Check them out online. Looks awesome and I will be testing a few in the near future.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 07:25 PM (W/lyH)
Dennis Prager had (has?) them as advertisers. He pimped their stuff on air quite often
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:33 PM (kpOx5)
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Diogenes, thanks - and that Brazilian maduro is a nice stick. Very mellow and lots of flavor.
Good tip on the Liberty Cigars - will look into them. Be sure to send Weasel reviews of those you like when you try them.
Related - Weasel, what's burning this evening? Just finished an Oliva Serie G, while as usual chatting with an old friend and former fellow RSO who decamped to TX.
Good tip on the Liberty Cigars - will look into them. Be sure to send Weasel reviews of those you like when you try them.
Related - Weasel, what's burning this evening? Just finished an Oliva Serie G, while as usual chatting with an old friend and former fellow RSO who decamped to TX.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2024 07:33 PM (GcNJ2)
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38, A Ruger Blackhawk in .357 can shoot .38, .357, and even hot loads by less than expert reloaders. I can only vouch for the old ones from say 40 years ago, but those won’t get tripped up by much. I did encounter split cases that locked up the cylinder, but they didn’t harm the gun. These were from overcharged loads and likely casings that were used too many times.
Posted by: Quint at January 21, 2024 07:33 PM (Aqzz5)
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High pressure ammo in low strength guns: Some type of award should go to Federal ammunition, who brought out the 9mm Federal Rimmed several years ago to solve the problem of shooting 9mm Parabellum in revolvers. It was loaded to about 35,000 PSI, to mimic 9mm ballistics. A sizeable production run was made, as they braced for the demand. And then somebody pointed out the new cartridge would fit into ancient .38 S&W top break revolvers of very dubious strength.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 21, 2024 07:33 PM (ln6cw)
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27 Read an article today regarding Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency officers - Before 2022, the TWRA could secretly place trail cams or similar devices on private lands and officers could visit any private lands without permission. These visits or placement of devices were not during investigations of crimes necessarily but rather whenever they chose.
The TWRA was sued and in late '22 the courts held that these such actions were, essentially, warrantless searches and therefore, illegal.
Still winding through the appeals process as near as I can figure.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2024 07:16 PM (qoGsy)
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I remember that. I figured if I found such a device on my private property then I would take such device and auction it off or sell it somehow.
The TWRA was sued and in late '22 the courts held that these such actions were, essentially, warrantless searches and therefore, illegal.
Still winding through the appeals process as near as I can figure.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2024 07:16 PM (qoGsy)
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I remember that. I figured if I found such a device on my private property then I would take such device and auction it off or sell it somehow.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space no one can hear you shoot! at January 21, 2024 07:33 PM (qfLjt)
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"The Patriot Mile," 1,776 yards.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:11 PM (tT6L1)
I LOVE it! I couldn't shoot it worth a darn yet, but I love it!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:11 PM (tT6L1)
I LOVE it! I couldn't shoot it worth a darn yet, but I love it!
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:33 PM (32nmx)
75
I'll start asking now... does anyone want a two hour skeet shooting session at the MoMe?
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM (2obW2)
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Hi Mr Weasel!
Yes! I did go to the range yesterday and Yes! I did shoot with focus on sight alignment, breathing and a smooth trigger squeeze. 50 rounds through the Ronin.
Then I relaxed and plinked 50 rounds through the Ruger Mark IV for funzies.
Thinking I need to do some double action dry fires with the .357 and try to balance a dime on the end of the barrel.
Keep your wits about you, horde. Especially if you're a city dweller.
Yes! I did go to the range yesterday and Yes! I did shoot with focus on sight alignment, breathing and a smooth trigger squeeze. 50 rounds through the Ronin.
Then I relaxed and plinked 50 rounds through the Ruger Mark IV for funzies.
Thinking I need to do some double action dry fires with the .357 and try to balance a dime on the end of the barrel.
Keep your wits about you, horde. Especially if you're a city dweller.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM (5G0pQ)
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Space is a great but very expensive place to get rid of bodies.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space no one can hear you shoot at January 21, 2024 07:12 PM (qfLjt)
FIFY
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space no one can hear you shoot at January 21, 2024 07:12 PM (qfLjt)
FIFY
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM (32nmx)
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My understanding is the Colt SAA is simply not as rugged as a Ruger. For sure, you have to be more careful with that firearm, but wow what a nice piece.
Posted by: Quint at January 21, 2024 07:35 PM (Aqzz5)
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Next time anybody has a face to face with their congresscritter, here's a question. The gubmint finally released quantities of 1911s for sale through the CMP. Now, the Berettas being phased out will probably remain in reserve for many years, as they should. The question is whatever happened to all the revolvers phased out of government service, both by the military and civilian agencies? Did they get the chop saw like the Colt Air Crew models? Are they gathering dust? CMP could sell a lot of USAF Combat Masterpieces if put up for sale. Hell, the FBI was changing handguns like underwear from the 70s to recent days.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 07:35 PM (0EOe9)
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Weapons from Bullitt!
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Bullitt
And it's interesting seeing 1970's and earlier TV and movies with the cops all using revolvers.
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Bullitt
And it's interesting seeing 1970's and earlier TV and movies with the cops all using revolvers.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 21, 2024 07:36 PM (2yu8s)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 21, 2024 07:37 PM (kpOx5)
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Shot the Vz 52/57 and the Vz 58 out to 500 yards on Friday, both in 7.62.x 39. Very windy, left to right about 15-20 mph. Good hits for both out to 300 yards but only a few at 500 for the 58 and none for the 52. Wet berms meant hard to see splashes and couldn't adjust shots due to no see em. I tried holding off right a bit but couldn't see the results. Iron sights only. Trigger for 58 is about 4 pounds while the Vz 52/57 is a surprising 2 pounds.
I can see why the 58 replaced the 52/57 as lighter and handier and more rounds per magazine.
I can see why the 58 replaced the 52/57 as lighter and handier and more rounds per magazine.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2024 07:37 PM (QGJ7D)
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Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM
Nurse!
The RMBS Mom and I are heading up to your AO late summer for an Alaskan cruise. Would love to pick your brain on what to do for a few hours in Seattle on either side. If you'd like, Weasel has my email and can share.
Nurse!
The RMBS Mom and I are heading up to your AO late summer for an Alaskan cruise. Would love to pick your brain on what to do for a few hours in Seattle on either side. If you'd like, Weasel has my email and can share.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:38 PM (Wnv9h)
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Should be helpful in plan to build 100 yard range this year.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (IFNME)
Also, a really good start for a more robust 'technical'!
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 07:18 PM (IFNME)
Also, a really good start for a more robust 'technical'!
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:38 PM (32nmx)
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61
I must now return the base, double check measurements with Ken Farrell ( great help line, btw), and get a new base.
*sigh*
Thanks, Winchester.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:29 PM (Wnv9h)
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AA or DIE employee?
I must now return the base, double check measurements with Ken Farrell ( great help line, btw), and get a new base.
*sigh*
Thanks, Winchester.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:29 PM (Wnv9h)
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AA or DIE employee?
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you ca get rid of the corpse at January 21, 2024 07:38 PM (qfLjt)
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Wasn't the reason for the 357Mag having a longer case precisely to prevent it from being used in legacy/existing 38 Special revolvers (whose metallurgy when the 357 came out could not handle the pressure)?
Posted by: rhomboid at January 21, 2024 07:39 PM (GcNJ2)
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I'll start asking now... does anyone want a two hour skeet shooting session at the MoMe?
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM
Hmmm...
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM
Hmmm...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 07:40 PM (0EOe9)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:29 PM (Wnv9h)
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AA or DIE employee?
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you ca get rid of the corpse at January 21, 2024 07:38 PM
Could well be.
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AA or DIE employee?
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you ca get rid of the corpse at January 21, 2024 07:38 PM
Could well be.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:41 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 21, 2024 07:42 PM (2yu8s)
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80, the 1980s too. You have 48 hours, and Lethal Weapon as examples. I would say revolvers were at least half the cop guns in the 80s. in movie, such as sudden impact and lethal weapon actually had to make a point of saying it’s time to use autos. I think there was more resistance to it than is generally acknowledged.
Posted by: Quint at January 21, 2024 07:42 PM (Aqzz5)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 21, 2024 07:43 PM (tT6L1)
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77 Space is a great but very expensive place to get rid of bodies.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space no one can hear you shoot at January 21, 2024 07:12 PM (qfLjt)
FIFY
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM (32nmx)
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I should have expressed myself better. I didn't mean to send the bodies to space, I was thinking more of when actually being in space in numbers (think Wild West) and shooting occurs. LOL.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space no one can hear you shoot at January 21, 2024 07:12 PM (qfLjt)
FIFY
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM (32nmx)
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I should have expressed myself better. I didn't mean to send the bodies to space, I was thinking more of when actually being in space in numbers (think Wild West) and shooting occurs. LOL.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you can get rid of the corpses at January 21, 2024 07:44 PM (qfLjt)
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RMBS!
I'd love to give y'all some ideas. I will ask weasel for your contact info.
Hey, weasel, can I have RMBS' contact info please?
I'd love to give y'all some ideas. I will ask weasel for your contact info.
Hey, weasel, can I have RMBS' contact info please?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2024 07:47 PM (5G0pQ)
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RMBS, interesting that you mention that. Iris and I have been talking about an Alaska cruise. We were hoping to talk some Morons into it and make it into a MoMe. Trying to decide what forum on the blog would be a good place to ask. Hobby thread?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 07:48 PM (t/2Uw)
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RMBS!
I'd love to give y'all some ideas. I will ask weasel for your contact info.
Hey, weasel, can I have RMBS' contact info please?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2024 07:47 PM
Cool! And if you'd like to link up for a drink, we can do a MicroMoMe.
I'd love to give y'all some ideas. I will ask weasel for your contact info.
Hey, weasel, can I have RMBS' contact info please?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2024 07:47 PM
Cool! And if you'd like to link up for a drink, we can do a MicroMoMe.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:48 PM (Wnv9h)
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nurse, if you don't hear from Weasel, I have it.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:48 PM (2obW2)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 21, 2024 07:48 PM (J3ryZ)
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Back to the Astra 400 mentioned up in 38. When I was a kid, a bunch of these came across the pond for cheap, like $15. I am guilty as sin of shooting these with 9mm Luger which headspaces on nothing, just the extractor holding on for dear life. This was with cruddy WW2 ammo and some of that real hot Canuck stuff for Sterlings. Miracle something bad never happened.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 07:48 PM (0EOe9)
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BTW, thanks to Ed L for the history lesson. I'm glad there are people that know how the present came to be.
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 07:49 PM (IQ6Gq)
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RMBS, interesting that you mention that. Iris and I have been talking about an Alaska cruise. We were hoping to talk some Morons into it and make it into a MoMe. Trying to decide what forum on the blog would be a good place to ask. Hobby thread?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 07:48 PM
*channels inner Zod*
You will do this. You will do thisnow at your earliest opportunity.
Seriously, though, I can tell you when we're going if y'all want to do an AoSHQ cruise.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 07:48 PM
*channels inner Zod*
You will do this. You will do this
Seriously, though, I can tell you when we're going if y'all want to do an AoSHQ cruise.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:51 PM (Wnv9h)
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Cop shows with automatics. Detective Crocker on Kojak carried a model 1914 Mauser .32. Not NYPD approved.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 07:52 PM (0EOe9)
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63 I also really liked what he said about Condition Yellow. It's not a condition of paranoia, but of looking around you and seeing what's going on.
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:30 PM
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Sounds like good advice for SOP.
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 07:30 PM
****
Sounds like good advice for SOP.
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 07:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 21, 2024 07:53 PM (xaFKb)
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Didn't get to the range this week because of the weather: snow, ice cold temps and some nasty wind. Good time to stay in and read. I have a number of printouts of articles I've come across over the years. Can't rely on their online access forever.
One is for the Gato Feo number 1. This is a black powder lube based on an old formula from the 1800s. Sheep tallow, canning wax and beeswax put together in a double boiler. It makes an excellent patch lube and BP bullet lube. Easy, cheap and effective is always appealing. A search on Gato Feo #1 will bring up any number of references
The second I'll mention is for the hand loaders: "The Load" by Ed Harris. He was given a caddy of Red Dot powder but no longer reloaded shot shells. He worked out a load with Red Dot that worked with cast or jacketed bullets and is good for any 30 caliber rifle cartridge. He used it mostly in old surplus bolt action battle rifles. The loads are meant for 200 yards or less and recoil is light. It will work for 30-06, 308, 30-30, 303 British and others. The article is worth the read.
One is for the Gato Feo number 1. This is a black powder lube based on an old formula from the 1800s. Sheep tallow, canning wax and beeswax put together in a double boiler. It makes an excellent patch lube and BP bullet lube. Easy, cheap and effective is always appealing. A search on Gato Feo #1 will bring up any number of references
The second I'll mention is for the hand loaders: "The Load" by Ed Harris. He was given a caddy of Red Dot powder but no longer reloaded shot shells. He worked out a load with Red Dot that worked with cast or jacketed bullets and is good for any 30 caliber rifle cartridge. He used it mostly in old surplus bolt action battle rifles. The loads are meant for 200 yards or less and recoil is light. It will work for 30-06, 308, 30-30, 303 British and others. The article is worth the read.
Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2024 07:54 PM (zudum)
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Hello Weasel and horde! I have computer problems tonight, so my ability to participate is limited.
Posted by: Ed L at January 21, 2024 07:54 PM (CuBSo)
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94 RMBS!
I'd love to give y'all some ideas. I will ask weasel for your contact info.
Hey, weasel, can I have RMBS' contact info please?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2024 07:47 PM (5G0pQ)
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Done.
I'd love to give y'all some ideas. I will ask weasel for your contact info.
Hey, weasel, can I have RMBS' contact info please?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2024 07:47 PM (5G0pQ)
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Done.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 07:56 PM (RG6z4)
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I need a 9
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2024 07:56 PM (lwOKI)
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I took Holland America cruise to Alaska from Seattle. Stayed at the Edgewater and had a great view of the trains going north for stuff.
Posted by: Jamaica at January 21, 2024 07:56 PM (Eeb9P)
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I was recently informed that firearms are not allowed on the property. Also, you can't smoke tobacco in your vehicle.
I am certain law-abiding citizens can get permits for these things.
I will endeavor to vote harder and sacrifice for the common good.
I am certain law-abiding citizens can get permits for these things.
I will endeavor to vote harder and sacrifice for the common good.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 21, 2024 07:58 PM (J3ryZ)
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Hey, weasel, can I have RMBS' contact info please?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2024 07:47 PM (5G0pQ)
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Done.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 07:56 PM
Thanks, Weasel san.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2024 07:47 PM (5G0pQ)
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Done.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 07:56 PM
Thanks, Weasel san.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 07:58 PM (Wnv9h)
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Posted by: Ed L at January 21, 2024 07:54 PM (CuBSo)
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Thanks again for the contribution this week!
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Thanks again for the contribution this week!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 07:58 PM (RG6z4)
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Weasel, So glad you and the Weasel family made it back safely. I've made similar speed runs in the past and they aren't fun.
Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2024 07:58 PM (zudum)
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We need to get to 360 comments for approval to continue of thus thread?
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 07:59 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:00 PM (RG6z4)
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So, my Glock really really needs to be cleaned. Can i count on all of you to ask me next week if I have done it? I believe I require soe peeer pressure or will surely procrastinate.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 08:01 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2024 08:02 PM (lwOKI)
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We need to get to 360 comments for approval to continue of thus thread?
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 07:59 PM
And to cover all modalities.
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 07:59 PM
And to cover all modalities.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 08:02 PM (Wnv9h)
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Rhomboid, the Colt New Model Army is a 1st generation double action revolver. It doesn’t have “shoulders” cut into the cylinder to limit what rounds it can chamber like modern revolvers do.
Posted by: Ed L at January 21, 2024 08:03 PM (CuBSo)
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Weasel, So glad you and the Weasel family made it back safely. I've made similar speed runs in the past and they aren't fun.
Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2024 07:58 PM (zudum)
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I don't mind the driving really, but we left Knoxville about 5pm and arrived home around 1 am the following day which wasn't ideal. Still happy we made it home before all the wacky snow business started in E TN and SW VA.
Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2024 07:58 PM (zudum)
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I don't mind the driving really, but we left Knoxville about 5pm and arrived home around 1 am the following day which wasn't ideal. Still happy we made it home before all the wacky snow business started in E TN and SW VA.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:03 PM (RG6z4)
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..I'll start asking now... does anyone want a two hour skeet shooting session at the MoMe? Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM (2obW2)
Sure. Set 'em up on the 100 yd. line, facing the shooting line.
.22 rifles, only. I think I'd manage to break maybe one, at least?
Awesome Gun Thread, boss. Portends well for the rest of the year!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Sure. Set 'em up on the 100 yd. line, facing the shooting line.
.22 rifles, only. I think I'd manage to break maybe one, at least?
Awesome Gun Thread, boss. Portends well for the rest of the year!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Daffy at January 21, 2024 08:03 PM (e6UQI)
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RMBS, will see if JJ will let us post something on the hobby thread next Saturday if you want to pursue this. I think late summer is the best time.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 08:04 PM (t/2Uw)
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RMBS, will see if JJ will let us post something on the hobby thread next Saturday if you want to pursue this. I think late summer is the best time.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 08:04 PM
Sharon, we're booked for the last week of August. If you're interested in getting on the same ship, I can let you know the details.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 08:04 PM
Sharon, we're booked for the last week of August. If you're interested in getting on the same ship, I can let you know the details.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 08:06 PM (Wnv9h)
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75 I'll start asking now... does anyone want a two hour skeet shooting session at the MoMe?
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM (2obW2)
Would such a session allow single-barrel shotguns like my Remington 870, or only double-barrel entrants?
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 07:34 PM (2obW2)
Would such a session allow single-barrel shotguns like my Remington 870, or only double-barrel entrants?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 08:06 PM (v23vE)
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.22 rifles, only. I think I'd manage to break maybe one, at least?
Awesome Gun Thread, boss. Portends well for the rest of the year!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
I'd be interested if it ws 22 rifles.
Awesome Gun Thread, boss. Portends well for the rest of the year!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
I'd be interested if it ws 22 rifles.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 08:06 PM (t/2Uw)
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Thanks to our pal CBD and other secret observers for keeping an eye on things here in the ol' Gun Thread
You're welcome, Weasel. As always, happy to help.
You're welcome, Weasel. As always, happy to help.
Posted by: Bob from NSA at January 21, 2024 08:07 PM (a3Q+t)
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Sharon, we're booked for the last week of August. If you're interested in getting on the same ship, I can let you know the details.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Yes
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Yes
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 08:08 PM (t/2Uw)
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Thanks much mi amigo Weasel, but Most Dangerous Toys forgot "Bag o' Broken Glass". "Teddy Bear with Built in Chain Saw:" and "Jonny Switchbade".
When SNL was Funny.
I'll go now.
When SNL was Funny.
I'll go now.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2024 08:08 PM (SNVFk)
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I might be just griping incorrectly.
Posted by: javems at January 21, 2024 07:22 PM (8I4hW)
I guess there are incorrect methods of griping. But most of them seem to work to some extent. Squeaky Wheel Method works for most, it seems.
Posted by: javems at January 21, 2024 07:22 PM (8I4hW)
I guess there are incorrect methods of griping. But most of them seem to work to some extent. Squeaky Wheel Method works for most, it seems.
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 08:08 PM (32nmx)
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:10 PM (RG6z4)
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The Astra 400 is a great pistol and a great piece of firearm history. Mine was made in the 1920's before the Spanish required standard proof marks and is marked "Guernica Espana" on top of the slide which is where Astra was located. The only "proof" is a Mercedes type symbol on the trigger guard. "Astra" crest on top of slide near front sight post. 21,000 range serial number.
9mm Largo is a nice round and the Spanish Army surplus I have fired gives a nice fire ball. The commercial stuff was not as hot.
Very accurate pistol, on par with the 1911. Magazines can be quite rare and expensive but what ya gonna do. Excellent reliability. Sights are crap but you get used to them.
9mm Largo is a nice round and the Spanish Army surplus I have fired gives a nice fire ball. The commercial stuff was not as hot.
Very accurate pistol, on par with the 1911. Magazines can be quite rare and expensive but what ya gonna do. Excellent reliability. Sights are crap but you get used to them.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2024 08:10 PM (QGJ7D)
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Weasel, how's the organic tree farming going?
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 08:10 PM (2obW2)
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I do try and get to cleaning no later than day after outing
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 08:12 PM (fwDg9)
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Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 08:10 PM (2obW2)
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Been so busy with work I haven't seen the place in a while!
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Been so busy with work I haven't seen the place in a while!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:12 PM (RG6z4)
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Big hands make it easy to have my last knuckle on the trigger instead of the pad.
Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2024 07:23 PM (zudum)
I'm going to be the deviant here and say that putting your first pad on the trigger isn't always the right answer. If the gun is small enough, putting the pad on the trigger might actually induce a push left (assuming righties). It's the "pull straight back" part that is important to watch. (And, yes, in most cases, pulling with the joint will cause the pull to not be straight back.)
Am I wrong?
Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2024 07:23 PM (zudum)
I'm going to be the deviant here and say that putting your first pad on the trigger isn't always the right answer. If the gun is small enough, putting the pad on the trigger might actually induce a push left (assuming righties). It's the "pull straight back" part that is important to watch. (And, yes, in most cases, pulling with the joint will cause the pull to not be straight back.)
Am I wrong?
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 08:12 PM (32nmx)
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@79 whatever happened to all the revolvers phased out of government service
When wife's US agency replaced the Ruger .357 with a semi, they were offered for sale BUT the in-service buyer had to pay a hefty fee for having the factory inspect and refurbish it. AFAIK none of them made it to the surplus market, as they were all ordered, indemnified and snatched up by those who had previously carried them. Her boss was a district armorer and arranged for her to get one. None were crushed.
When wife's US agency replaced the Ruger .357 with a semi, they were offered for sale BUT the in-service buyer had to pay a hefty fee for having the factory inspect and refurbish it. AFAIK none of them made it to the surplus market, as they were all ordered, indemnified and snatched up by those who had previously carried them. Her boss was a district armorer and arranged for her to get one. None were crushed.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 21, 2024 08:13 PM (zdLoL)
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Weasel, a lonely John Deere is pining for company.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 08:14 PM (2obW2)
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131 There was a batch that came across the pond in the nineties, after surplus sales loosened a bit. They were coming through with a worn Astra box and a spare magazine. I would imagine these were surplused out when the Guardia Civil updated their handgun armory.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 08:14 PM (0EOe9)
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Weasel, a lonely John Deere is pining for company.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 08:14 PM (2obW2)
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I miss it the most!
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 08:14 PM (2obW2)
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I miss it the most!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:15 PM (RG6z4)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2024 08:16 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:18 PM (RG6z4)
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With tree farming it goes with squirrel herding
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 08:18 PM (fwDg9)
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Thank you Weasel. Time for the recliner and heating pad. The ice storm is getting closer, so The Knee tells me.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 08:19 PM (0EOe9)
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Weasel, a lonely John Deere is pining for company.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 08:14 PM
Where have you gone, Mr. Weasel-o?
A tractor turns its lonely eyes to you,
Wooo-woo-woooooooo
Posted by: Ben Had at January 21, 2024 08:14 PM
Where have you gone, Mr. Weasel-o?
A tractor turns its lonely eyes to you,
Wooo-woo-woooooooo
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2024 08:20 PM (a3Q+t)
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95 RMBS, interesting that you mention that. Iris and I have been talking about an Alaska cruise. We were hoping to talk some Morons into it and make it into a MoMe. Trying to decide what forum on the blog would be a good place to ask. Hobby thread?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 07:48 PM (t/2Uw)
You know, this has been proposed before. Pirate flags were involved.
I don't see how this turns out well.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 07:48 PM (t/2Uw)
You know, this has been proposed before. Pirate flags were involved.
I don't see how this turns out well.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 08:21 PM (IFNME)
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Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 08:19 PM (0EOe9)
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Good luck with the storm!
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Good luck with the storm!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:21 PM (RG6z4)
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I didn't mean to send the bodies to space, I was thinking more of when actually being in space in numbers (think Wild West) and shooting occurs. LOL.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you can get rid of the corpses at January 21, 2024 07:44 PM (qfLjt)
Ahhhh. Heh. More Outland and less Godfather with access to a rocket.
Though, it could explain some failures in more recent years....
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you can get rid of the corpses at January 21, 2024 07:44 PM (qfLjt)
Ahhhh. Heh. More Outland and less Godfather with access to a rocket.
Though, it could explain some failures in more recent years....
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 08:21 PM (32nmx)
148
Old GI revolvers: No confirmation, but I think most of them were scrapped. By the time these revolvers were finally replaced by M9 and M11 pistols in the mid 90s and early 00s, they were completely worn out. I personally saw numbers of old S&W Victory models in the hands of aviators of all services as late as 1991 in Gulf War 1. CID agents had Colt Detective Specials into the late 90s. All of these revolvers were very tired when I saw them.
Posted by: Ed L at January 21, 2024 08:22 PM (CuBSo)
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131 There was a batch that came across the pond in the nineties, after surplus sales loosened a bit. They were coming through with a worn Astra box and a spare magazine. I would imagine these were surplused out when the Guardia Civil updated their handgun armory.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 08:14 PM (0EOe9)
Excellent! I have always liked Spanish pistols. Great firearms for the money and lots of old skool workmanship. Astra and Star being the most abundant.
I saw an Astra 300 in .380 once in meatspace but failed to purchase it much to my regret.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2024 08:14 PM (0EOe9)
Excellent! I have always liked Spanish pistols. Great firearms for the money and lots of old skool workmanship. Astra and Star being the most abundant.
I saw an Astra 300 in .380 once in meatspace but failed to purchase it much to my regret.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2024 08:22 PM (QGJ7D)
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Tried a new (to me) cigar.
HC Series Criollo. Size in 7" x 48 churchill. The 48 is lot smaller than the usual 50 and surely enhances the flavor of the wrapper and binder over the filler. Good construction and fairly firm. Little touchups needed. Good flavor and I burned it down to 1/2". Maintained light very well.
Not being able to distinguish subleties in flavor I am going to swipe CI dot COM review -
"Jam-packed with Honduran and Nicaraguan tobaccos, chewy flavors of leather, nuts, and tobacco generously coat the palate.
Still need more encouragement? The HC Criollo received a well-deserved 91 rating noting: “Large and thick, this cigar draws well, though burns a touch unevenly. It’s nutty and woody with a salty, leathery note. Pleasant and consistent with no harshness or acidity.”
I found most of HC cigars to be good enough... except the "Blue" barber pole, that one was very... uninspiring... could have been plain label cigarette tobacco. Took long rests to get any flavor out of it, and a second more it would go out.
HC Series Criollo. Size in 7" x 48 churchill. The 48 is lot smaller than the usual 50 and surely enhances the flavor of the wrapper and binder over the filler. Good construction and fairly firm. Little touchups needed. Good flavor and I burned it down to 1/2". Maintained light very well.
Not being able to distinguish subleties in flavor I am going to swipe CI dot COM review -
"Jam-packed with Honduran and Nicaraguan tobaccos, chewy flavors of leather, nuts, and tobacco generously coat the palate.
Still need more encouragement? The HC Criollo received a well-deserved 91 rating noting: “Large and thick, this cigar draws well, though burns a touch unevenly. It’s nutty and woody with a salty, leathery note. Pleasant and consistent with no harshness or acidity.”
I found most of HC cigars to be good enough... except the "Blue" barber pole, that one was very... uninspiring... could have been plain label cigarette tobacco. Took long rests to get any flavor out of it, and a second more it would go out.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 21, 2024 08:22 PM (cOq4q)
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BTW, thanks to Ed L for the history lesson. I'm glad there are people that know how the present came to be.
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 07:49 PM (IQ6Gq)
DITTO
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 07:49 PM (IQ6Gq)
DITTO
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 08:23 PM (32nmx)
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You know, this has been proposed before. Pirate flags were involved.
I don't see how this turns out well.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 08:21 PM
Arrrrrrr!
I don't see how this turns out well.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 08:21 PM
Arrrrrrr!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 08:23 PM (Wnv9h)
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A lot of triggers have some adjustment to them, to account for big hands or long fingers. I was not shooting well with a SpfldArmory 1911 once, and took it to a gunsmith who used to work for CMP to find out what I could do. He said, you know this isn't the right trigger tab don't you? No, I did not know that. Someone had spec'd this pistol with a much shorter trigger, causing my long finger to "crab," bend backward. He just happened to have the right one, a lovely gold toned thing, and he charged me $5 to change it out. My pistol was their National Match model, and the NM trigger is supposed to engage the finger pad much farther forward than a knuckle-grip. That solved my problem.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 21, 2024 08:23 PM (zdLoL)
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Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 21, 2024 08:22 PM (cOq4q)
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Thanks for that - I'll check them out!
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Thanks for that - I'll check them out!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:24 PM (RG6z4)
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Brief range report. Brought out old 6.5 Betsy to see if she still shoots.
Yup.
Yup.
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 08:24 PM (cB1i4)
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NOTE Updated time
SpaceX Starlink SpaceX's 7th Launch of 2024,
Starlink 7-11 Mission| Falcon 9
January 21st at 9:25 p.m. ET
Link #1 http://tinyurl.com/2s4e6a9w
Link #2 http://tinyurl.com/mrrup82m
SpaceX Starlink SpaceX's 7th Launch of 2024,
Starlink 7-11 Mission| Falcon 9
January 21st at 9:25 p.m. ET
Link #1 http://tinyurl.com/2s4e6a9w
Link #2 http://tinyurl.com/mrrup82m
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you can get rid of the corpses at January 21, 2024 08:25 PM (qfLjt)
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If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline
bluebell?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2024 08:16 PM (a3Q+t)
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Dear Weasel Staff,
Which makes a better shiv...a trimmed down section of leaf spring from a '87 Mustang, or a filed down Stanley Phillips screwdriver?
bluebell?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2024 08:16 PM (a3Q+t)
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Dear Weasel Staff,
Which makes a better shiv...a trimmed down section of leaf spring from a '87 Mustang, or a filed down Stanley Phillips screwdriver?
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 08:25 PM (W/lyH)
158
Border crosser makes threat. ‘Soon you will know who I am.’
911 912 whatever it takes
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2024 08:02 PM (lwOKI)
9mm, .45, 12.7x42, whatever it takes.
911 912 whatever it takes
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 21, 2024 08:02 PM (lwOKI)
9mm, .45, 12.7x42, whatever it takes.
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 08:25 PM (32nmx)
159
In the background of the closeup of the barrel markings of the New Model Army Revolver, I notice a treatise that appears to be written by noted small arms expert David Hogg.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2024 08:26 PM (a3Q+t)
160
148 Old GI revolvers: No confirmation, but I think most of them were scrapped. By the time these revolvers were finally replaced by M9 and M11 pistols in the mid 90s and early 00s, they were completely worn out. I personally saw numbers of old S&W Victory models in the hands of aviators of all services as late as 1991 in Gulf War 1. CID agents had Colt Detective Specials into the late 90s. All of these revolvers were very tired when I saw them.
Posted by: Ed L
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Clinton Administration ended the practice of selling surplus military firearms to the public so they most likely ended up as scrap by the time that units turned the revolvers in and then got issued Berettas.
They did a lot of stupid stuff including cutting up jeeps to prevent them from being sold as anything other than scrap, etc. Same idiocy as Cash for Clunkers where they ruined parts that could have been sold.
Posted by: Ed L
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Clinton Administration ended the practice of selling surplus military firearms to the public so they most likely ended up as scrap by the time that units turned the revolvers in and then got issued Berettas.
They did a lot of stupid stuff including cutting up jeeps to prevent them from being sold as anything other than scrap, etc. Same idiocy as Cash for Clunkers where they ruined parts that could have been sold.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:28 PM (2RPGb)
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Sharon, we're booked for the last week of August. If you're interested in getting on the same ship, I can let you know the details.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Yes
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 08:08 PM
Check your email.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Yes
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 08:08 PM
Check your email.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 08:29 PM (Wnv9h)
162
C&Rsenal has a You Tube episode about the Colt New Model Army if anyone wants to know the full backstory about this firearm.
Posted by: Ed L at January 21, 2024 08:29 PM (CuBSo)
163
NOTE Updated time
SpaceX Starlink SpaceX's 7th Launch of 2024,
Starlink 7-11 Mission| Falcon 9
January 21st at 9:25 p.m. ET
Link #1 http://tinyurl.com/2s4e6a9w
Link #2 http://tinyurl.com/mrrup82m
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you can get rid of the corpses at January 21, 2024 08:25 PM (qfLjt)
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7-11 mission? Complicated way to get a slurpee and slim jims!
SpaceX Starlink SpaceX's 7th Launch of 2024,
Starlink 7-11 Mission| Falcon 9
January 21st at 9:25 p.m. ET
Link #1 http://tinyurl.com/2s4e6a9w
Link #2 http://tinyurl.com/mrrup82m
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you can get rid of the corpses at January 21, 2024 08:25 PM (qfLjt)
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7-11 mission? Complicated way to get a slurpee and slim jims!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:29 PM (RG6z4)
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Definitely recommend the Mas Ayoob video Weasel included. Too many people have their "head in their app" while in vulnerable / transitional spaces, and that's just asking to be a victim.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 08:29 PM (v23vE)
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Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 08:24 PM
As you can see from my rant above, it will be a little longer before I can take you up on your offer of help with scope mounting. Mumblemumblefrickin'helplinesmumblemumble.....
As you can see from my rant above, it will be a little longer before I can take you up on your offer of help with scope mounting. Mumblemumblefrickin'helplinesmumblemumble.....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 08:31 PM (Wnv9h)
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7-11 mission? Complicated way to get a slurpee and slim jims!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:29 PM (RG6z4)
Joe Biden wonders if this launch will have a slight Indian accent.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:29 PM (RG6z4)
Joe Biden wonders if this launch will have a slight Indian accent.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 08:32 PM (v23vE)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 21, 2024 08:32 PM (6bRle)
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Duncanthrax, the author is Ian Hogg.
Posted by: Ed L at January 21, 2024 08:33 PM (CuBSo)
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I'm going to be the deviant here and say that putting your first pad on the trigger isn't always the right answer. If the gun is small enough, putting the pad on the trigger might actually induce a push left (assuming righties). It's the "pull straight back" part that is important to watch. (And, yes, in most cases, pulling with the joint will cause the pull to not be straight back.)
Am I wrong?
Posted by: GWB
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Using the pad is a target shooting technique but supposedly Gaston Glock designed his Glocks to use the pad. Old double action revolver shooters and DA/SA shooters learn that you use the power crease in the first joint to deal with a heavier trigger pull. If your firearm has a heavier trigger pull (or you get issued one that is a no no to alter), use the power crease. Critical to manage heavy trigger pulls and other issues like stacking, etc.
That is the reason that bullseye shooters used 1911's as the trigger pull could be adjusted well down safely as to use the pad of the trigger finger. You can shoot single action revolvers similarly but if the revolver is double action, best to learn only one trigger press.
Am I wrong?
Posted by: GWB
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Using the pad is a target shooting technique but supposedly Gaston Glock designed his Glocks to use the pad. Old double action revolver shooters and DA/SA shooters learn that you use the power crease in the first joint to deal with a heavier trigger pull. If your firearm has a heavier trigger pull (or you get issued one that is a no no to alter), use the power crease. Critical to manage heavy trigger pulls and other issues like stacking, etc.
That is the reason that bullseye shooters used 1911's as the trigger pull could be adjusted well down safely as to use the pad of the trigger finger. You can shoot single action revolvers similarly but if the revolver is double action, best to learn only one trigger press.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:33 PM (2RPGb)
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We need to pick up the pace a bit, Comrades. Food Thread had 378 comments. We don't want Weasel worried about his evaluation, when his situational awareness should be focused on driving his John Deere down the path toward the range, where his next video will feature his Gyrojet.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2024 08:37 PM (a3Q+t)
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Weasel, I’ll say goodnight to everyone. I have to start searching for a new computer.
Posted by: Ed L at January 21, 2024 08:39 PM (CuBSo)
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FWIW, Colt progressively went from the New Army Navy model to the Army Special and then to the Police Positive. Both the Army Special and Police Positive are 'modern' revolvers and Colt ironed out most of the issues of the earlier Army Navy model.
The US Army, while waiting for the 1911 trials to end, issued one last revolver, the Colt New Service as the Model 1909 in 45 Colt.
The US Army, while waiting for the 1911 trials to end, issued one last revolver, the Colt New Service as the Model 1909 in 45 Colt.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:40 PM (2RPGb)
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:41 PM (RG6z4)
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Seriously, I was checking Hornady 140s and 147s.
My Ruger does not shoot the 147s very well. 140 goes sub 1/2 MOA.
My Ruger does not shoot the 147s very well. 140 goes sub 1/2 MOA.
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 08:41 PM (cB1i4)
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One thing wonder in this hog hunting is see once first shot goes off the pod runs, if a silencer was used would that maybe not spook the herd?
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 08:43 PM (fwDg9)
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so spawn is #3 in markmanship
Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2024 08:45 PM (I6rgD)
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Ahhhh, TukTuks....
The Army loves to tell its soldiers "you may not own, operate, nor ride in any 3-wheeled conveyances."
While those same soldiers are deployed to someplace like Khorat Thailand, where your choices are tuktuks, or... walking.
We AF folks squashed that every time they tried it at our exercises there. At a minimum we said "Well, we won't be following that 'guidance'." Especially when our lodging was slightly out of town.
The Army loves to tell its soldiers "you may not own, operate, nor ride in any 3-wheeled conveyances."
While those same soldiers are deployed to someplace like Khorat Thailand, where your choices are tuktuks, or... walking.
We AF folks squashed that every time they tried it at our exercises there. At a minimum we said "Well, we won't be following that 'guidance'." Especially when our lodging was slightly out of town.
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 08:46 PM (32nmx)
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For all rookie shooters in JROTC. Air soft rifles which are new to her.
Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2024 08:46 PM (I6rgD)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at January 21, 2024 08:46 PM (FVME7)
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Ed, glad you made the MGC meet today. Fun getting to shoot the P226 but your help with the Glock was invaluable.
Hope the computer search goes well.
Hope the computer search goes well.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 08:46 PM (t/2Uw)
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And I’m up over 2500 rounds though this barrel. I’m thinking I might have to check out the Ruger American Mod 2. Better factory stock. Spiral fluted barrel with brake. AICS mags.
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 08:48 PM (cB1i4)
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 08:48 PM (RG6z4)
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Weasel, I’ll say goodnight to everyone. I have to start searching for a new computer.
Posted by: Ed L at January 21, 2024 08:39 PM
It's always in the last place you look.
Posted by: Ed L at January 21, 2024 08:39 PM
It's always in the last place you look.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 21, 2024 08:49 PM (a3Q+t)
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181 And I’m up over 2500 rounds though this barrel. I’m thinking I might have to check out the Ruger American Mod 2. Better factory stock. Spiral fluted barrel with brake. AICS mags.
Posted by: RI Red
The Ruger American is an interesting choice. Don't hear much about them while the P series was everywhere.
Posted by: RI Red
The Ruger American is an interesting choice. Don't hear much about them while the P series was everywhere.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:50 PM (2RPGb)
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so spawn is #3 in markmanship
Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2024 08:45 PM
Excellent! As I said to her at the MoMe, if you want to humble yourself and really work on follow through and reducing shooter error, a recoilless match air rifle will put you in your place very quickly, and make you a much better shooter. I was OIC of the 10th Mtn Div's rifle team a couple of years, and the first thing I did was get my people some airguns to work with. It helped them. A lot.
Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2024 08:45 PM
Excellent! As I said to her at the MoMe, if you want to humble yourself and really work on follow through and reducing shooter error, a recoilless match air rifle will put you in your place very quickly, and make you a much better shooter. I was OIC of the 10th Mtn Div's rifle team a couple of years, and the first thing I did was get my people some airguns to work with. It helped them. A lot.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 08:51 PM (Wnv9h)
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183 Weasel, I’ll say goodnight to everyone. I have to start searching for a new computer.
Posted by: Ed L
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Build your own if a desktop. Microcenter if buying a laptop.
Posted by: Ed L
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Build your own if a desktop. Microcenter if buying a laptop.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:51 PM (2RPGb)
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Definitely recommend the Mas Ayoob video Weasel included.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
Yep - I like what he added about now being able to see the good in everyday living simply by being aware of the world around you.
Great point.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
Yep - I like what he added about now being able to see the good in everyday living simply by being aware of the world around you.
Great point.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2024 08:52 PM (qoGsy)
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176 so spawn is #3 in markmanship
Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2024 08:45 PM (I6rgD)
Yay spawn! So encouraging to see one so young invested in the shooting sports.
Posted by: lin-duh at January 21, 2024 08:45 PM (I6rgD)
Yay spawn! So encouraging to see one so young invested in the shooting sports.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 08:52 PM (v23vE)
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I was OIC of the 10th Mtn Div's rifle team a couple of years, and the first thing I did was get my people some airguns to work with. It helped them. A lot.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Respect. Anyone at Ft Drum in the Winter deserves their own campaign badge for Operation Frost Miser.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Respect. Anyone at Ft Drum in the Winter deserves their own campaign badge for Operation Frost Miser.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:53 PM (2RPGb)
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The wrongest wrongness in the history of wrong. (maybe 2 minutes)
http://tinyurl.com/55tx3tep
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at January 21, 2024 08:46 PM (FVME7)
She doesn't even realize that she's basically demanding absolute conformity to her religion (yes, it's a religion) and basing the exercise of rights on that conformity. And she doesn't care how totalitarian it might be. (On top of being wholly ignorant about all of those things she spouts off on.)
http://tinyurl.com/55tx3tep
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at January 21, 2024 08:46 PM (FVME7)
She doesn't even realize that she's basically demanding absolute conformity to her religion (yes, it's a religion) and basing the exercise of rights on that conformity. And she doesn't care how totalitarian it might be. (On top of being wholly ignorant about all of those things she spouts off on.)
Posted by: GWB at January 21, 2024 08:54 PM (32nmx)
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Respect. Anyone at Ft Drum in the Winter deserves their own campaign badge for Operation Frost Miser.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:53 PM
We had people from Alaska telling us, damn, son....that place is freakin' cold!
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:53 PM
We had people from Alaska telling us, damn, son....that place is freakin' cold!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 08:56 PM (Wnv9h)
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The wrongest wrongness in the history of wrong. (maybe 2 minutes)
http://tinyurl.com/55tx3tep
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
My argument against this is thus: How about I get to decide who is a threat and should have their 2A rights revoked?
It does tend to get their attention, if not to engage their brain.
http://tinyurl.com/55tx3tep
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
My argument against this is thus: How about I get to decide who is a threat and should have their 2A rights revoked?
It does tend to get their attention, if not to engage their brain.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2024 08:56 PM (qoGsy)
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I was OIC of the 10th Mtn Div's rifle team a couple of years, and the first thing I did was get my people some airguns to work with. It helped them. A lot.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Concur. I shoot single shot break barrel, semi auto Co2 and full auto Co2 out my back door 3 or 4 times a week.
Set up a nice back drop and some metal and paper targets and your good to go.
Fun and you can work on the fundamentals like Weasel said on the cheap.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Concur. I shoot single shot break barrel, semi auto Co2 and full auto Co2 out my back door 3 or 4 times a week.
Set up a nice back drop and some metal and paper targets and your good to go.
Fun and you can work on the fundamentals like Weasel said on the cheap.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2024 08:57 PM (5+mfg)
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190 The wrongest wrongness in the history of wrong. (maybe 2 minutes)
http://tinyurl.com/55tx3tep
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at January 21, 2024 08:46 PM (FVME7)
She doesn't even realize that she's basically demanding absolute conformity to her religion (yes, it's a religion) and basing the exercise of rights on that conformity. And she doesn't care how totalitarian it might be. (On top of being wholly ignorant about all of those things she spouts off on.)
I don't expect her to be at the head of the stack to go in and grab the merchandise from all those folk she named.
http://tinyurl.com/55tx3tep
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at January 21, 2024 08:46 PM (FVME7)
She doesn't even realize that she's basically demanding absolute conformity to her religion (yes, it's a religion) and basing the exercise of rights on that conformity. And she doesn't care how totalitarian it might be. (On top of being wholly ignorant about all of those things she spouts off on.)
I don't expect her to be at the head of the stack to go in and grab the merchandise from all those folk she named.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 08:57 PM (v23vE)
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If they change the time once more then it's a scrub as this is the last window tonight. Open a site and keep an eye on the count-down clock to commentary, etc.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching at January 21, 2024 09:00 PM (qfLjt)
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190 agree, this brainwashing that anyone not a Leftist makes them some sort of terrorist to their religion
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:01 PM (fwDg9)
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Concur. I shoot single shot break barrel, semi auto Co2 and full auto Co2 out my back door 3 or 4 times a week.
Set up a nice back drop and some metal and paper targets and your good to go.
Fun and you can work on the fundamentals like Weasel said on the cheap.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2024 08:57 PM
Absolutely. I have my 40 year old RWS 75T01 springer, and that thing is a fantastic tool for working on the fundamentals.
Set up a nice back drop and some metal and paper targets and your good to go.
Fun and you can work on the fundamentals like Weasel said on the cheap.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 21, 2024 08:57 PM
Absolutely. I have my 40 year old RWS 75T01 springer, and that thing is a fantastic tool for working on the fundamentals.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 09:03 PM (Wnv9h)
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174 Seriously, I was checking Hornady 140s and 147s.
My Ruger does not shoot the 147s very well. 140 goes sub 1/2 MOA.
Posted by: RI Red
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Every pistol has its quirks. May have something to do with the shorter bearing surface of the Hornady 140gr bullet. That seems to be a good bullet wt by Hornady and Winchester Silvertips in 357 Magnum as well.
My Ruger does not shoot the 147s very well. 140 goes sub 1/2 MOA.
Posted by: RI Red
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Every pistol has its quirks. May have something to do with the shorter bearing surface of the Hornady 140gr bullet. That seems to be a good bullet wt by Hornady and Winchester Silvertips in 357 Magnum as well.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:04 PM (2RPGb)
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Good night all.
I hear some Dulce de Leche calling from t he kitchen.
Thanks Weasel. The only thing better than a day at teh range is getting to share it with all of you.
I hear some Dulce de Leche calling from t he kitchen.
Thanks Weasel. The only thing better than a day at teh range is getting to share it with all of you.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 21, 2024 09:05 PM (t/2Uw)
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200!
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 09:06 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Actually getting sick of January already
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:07 PM (fwDg9)
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I always carry two extra magazines. It just feels nice and offsets the weight of whatever handgun I carry..
Posted by: Eromero at January 21, 2024 09:07 PM (NxC5+)
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I haven’t been to a range in a bit, but the last time I was, I practiced the advice to focus on the front sight. I can’t say for sure it improved my accuracy, but I felt better about picking up the point of impact.
I’m pretty sure I already do the things in this week’s shooting tips, but I can’t wait to get out and practice them.
Does anyone know if the armed attorneys sell those coffee mugs? I’d like to get a couple. I’m close enough to Houston to stop by, if mail order isn’t available.
I’m pretty sure I already do the things in this week’s shooting tips, but I can’t wait to get out and practice them.
Does anyone know if the armed attorneys sell those coffee mugs? I’d like to get a couple. I’m close enough to Houston to stop by, if mail order isn’t available.
Posted by: Advo at January 21, 2024 09:08 PM (VHN21)
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Posted by: Advo at January 21, 2024 09:08 PM (VHN21)
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Howdy and welcome! Not sure about the AA merch, but I bet they have a website.
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Howdy and welcome! Not sure about the AA merch, but I bet they have a website.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:11 PM (RG6z4)
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201 Actually getting sick of January already
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:07 PM (fwDg9)
Same. Some days I wake up cold and don't get any warmer all day. 0/10 would not recommend.
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:07 PM (fwDg9)
Same. Some days I wake up cold and don't get any warmer all day. 0/10 would not recommend.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:12 PM (v23vE)
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Dear Weasel Staff,
Which makes a better shiv...a trimmed down section of leaf spring from a '87 Mustang, or a filed down Stanley Phillips screwdriver?
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 08:25 PM (W/lyH)
LMAO. But ponders.
Which makes a better shiv...a trimmed down section of leaf spring from a '87 Mustang, or a filed down Stanley Phillips screwdriver?
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 08:25 PM (W/lyH)
LMAO. But ponders.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2024 09:13 PM (SNVFk)
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S puppy, I worked 7 days straight through our mini ice age in ETEX. I'm right there with you bro.
Posted by: Eromero at January 21, 2024 09:13 PM (NxC5+)
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Hey all y'all - slow nite tonite so I'm going to try and get a few things done before work tomorrow. Thank you all for being here tonight - I really do appreciate it! I'll try and check in later but if I don't, hope to see you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:14 PM (RG6z4)
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Working inside but unheated space made a cold day. Night shift at least is heated if actually a bit warmer than should be.
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:14 PM (fwDg9)
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208 Hey all y'all - slow nite tonite so I'm going to try and get a few things done before work tomorrow. Thank you all for being here tonight - I really do appreciate it! I'll try and check in later but if I don't, hope to see you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:14 PM (RG6z4)
Appreciate you, sir! Thanks for the forum.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:14 PM (RG6z4)
Appreciate you, sir! Thanks for the forum.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:15 PM (v23vE)
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The Situational Awareness is something that is easily forgotten. I had an incident a few months ago and it could have gone really bad. I got complacent. No bueno.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 21, 2024 09:15 PM (SNVFk)
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Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 09:16 PM (Wnv9h)
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Hey y'all I have a small ? that is OT how much longer do we have to wait to talk about Pres.Trump winning the Republican primary election? Ok I will now go back to lurking. Thanks much😁
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at January 21, 2024 09:16 PM (RrfDO)
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Sorry, Whig. I was distracted by sports ball and not being clear.
I was shooting my Ruger Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor. It loves Hornady 140 ELD Match. Ruger is just now coming out with a Mod 2 in .243, 6.5 and .308. My LGS has some on order . . .
I was shooting my Ruger Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor. It loves Hornady 140 ELD Match. Ruger is just now coming out with a Mod 2 in .243, 6.5 and .308. My LGS has some on order . . .
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 09:17 PM (cB1i4)
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RMBS, if I just happen to get that new 6.5, I’ll need to put new glass on it. We can have a workshop.
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 09:19 PM (cB1i4)
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Hey, fellas. What's new?
Posted by: Smart Alec Baldwin at January 21, 2024 09:20 PM (J3ryZ)
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I don't expect her to be at the head of the stack to go in and grab the merchandise from all those folk she named.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 08:57 PM (v23vE)
I seriously doubt she will be opening ho her home (once told to by the guv'mint) to those arab speaking illegals coming across the border either.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 08:57 PM (v23vE)
I seriously doubt she will be opening ho her home (once told to by the guv'mint) to those arab speaking illegals coming across the border either.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 09:21 PM (W/lyH)
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Hey y'all I have a small ? that is OT how much longer do we have to wait to talk about Pres.Trump winning the Republican primary election?
Just you wait! War Karen, uh, I mean Orange Hillary, uh, Nikki Haley will get at least 20% of the vote in New Hampshire, thus proving that Trump is unelectable!
Just you wait! War Karen, uh, I mean Orange Hillary, uh, Nikki Haley will get at least 20% of the vote in New Hampshire, thus proving that Trump is unelectable!
Posted by: The MSM at January 21, 2024 09:23 PM (ln6cw)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 21, 2024 09:23 PM (63Dwl)
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214 Sorry, Whig. I was distracted by sports ball and not being clear.
I was shooting my Ruger Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor. It loves Hornady 140 ELD Match. Ruger is just now coming out with a Mod 2 in .243, 6.5 and .308. My LGS has some on order . . .
Posted by: RI Red
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Ah, I thought you were talking about moving from your Ruger 9mm pistol to the Ruger American
I was shooting my Ruger Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor. It loves Hornady 140 ELD Match. Ruger is just now coming out with a Mod 2 in .243, 6.5 and .308. My LGS has some on order . . .
Posted by: RI Red
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Ah, I thought you were talking about moving from your Ruger 9mm pistol to the Ruger American
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:23 PM (2RPGb)
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Hey y'all I have a small ? that is OT how much longer do we have to wait to talk about Pres.Trump winning the Republican primary election? Ok I will now go back to lurking. Thanks much😁
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at January 21, 2024 09:16 PM (RrfDO)
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There are plenty of political threads during the week, and I really want to keep current events out of this thread. Thanks for asking!
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at January 21, 2024 09:16 PM (RrfDO)
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There are plenty of political threads during the week, and I really want to keep current events out of this thread. Thanks for asking!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:24 PM (RG6z4)
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RMBS, if I just happen to get that new 6.5, I’ll need to put new glass on it. We can have a workshop.
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 09:19 PM
Sounds good. I'll be working on getting that new base tomorrow. Hopefully it won't take too long.
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 09:19 PM
Sounds good. I'll be working on getting that new base tomorrow. Hopefully it won't take too long.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 21, 2024 09:26 PM (Wnv9h)
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Thanks Weasel for the thread.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:27 PM (2RPGb)
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Not shocking the Eff Bee Eye virtually destroyed the Colt Alec used to kill trying to prove it shot all by itself.
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:30 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Puddleglum, Just lurkin' about at January 21, 2024 09:31 PM (sAmhv)
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Much content tonight Weasel. Well done.
Posted by: Eromero at January 21, 2024 09:32 PM (NxC5+)
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Speaking as a long-time concealed carrier, I'm very impressed by Kydex holsters. They are inexpensive compared to equally well-fitted leather ones, and if you use Inside the Waist Band models nobody has to know how cheap you are.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 21, 2024 09:33 PM (ln6cw)
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Ok I'll sit back and wait for the next thread then. Thanks for replying🌝.
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at January 21, 2024 09:34 PM (RrfDO)
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New thread should be within the 1/2 hour
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:35 PM (fwDg9)
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227 Speaking as a long-time concealed carrier, I'm very impressed by Kydex holsters. They are inexpensive compared to equally well-fitted leather ones, and if you use Inside the Waist Band models nobody has to know how cheap you are.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
I prefer leather but right now I'm wearing a VersaCarry Kydex on leather back OWB G-45.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
I prefer leather but right now I'm wearing a VersaCarry Kydex on leather back OWB G-45.
Posted by: Eromero at January 21, 2024 09:36 PM (NxC5+)
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Both Louis Awerbuck and Col. Cooper stressed the basics of trigger manipulation and the importance to revisit it from time to time. Good video posted above.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:37 PM (2RPGb)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 21, 2024 09:37 PM (V8he0)
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Check out Garrett holsters for leather lined kydex. I really like these and have them for most of my carry guns.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:38 PM (RG6z4)
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227 Speaking as a long-time concealed carrier, I'm very impressed by Kydex holsters. They are inexpensive compared to equally well-fitted leather ones, and if you use Inside the Waist Band models nobody has to know how cheap you are.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Kydex works for a lot of folks, leather works for others, and then there are the hybrid types of leather and kydex. It's all good.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Kydex works for a lot of folks, leather works for others, and then there are the hybrid types of leather and kydex. It's all good.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:39 PM (2RPGb)
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They did a lot of stupid stuff including cutting up jeeps to prevent them from being sold as anything other than scrap, etc. Same idiocy as Cash for Clunkers where they ruined parts that could have been sold.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:28 PM (2RPGb)
The jeep cutting came from the M151a1 jeeps being unsafe. They would still sell the whole jeep surplus but, yes, cut in half. Of course there were people who would buy them and weld them back together.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 08:28 PM (2RPGb)
The jeep cutting came from the M151a1 jeeps being unsafe. They would still sell the whole jeep surplus but, yes, cut in half. Of course there were people who would buy them and weld them back together.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 09:39 PM (IFNME)
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There are plenty of political threads during the week, and I really want to keep current events out of this thread. Thanks for asking!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:24 PM (RG6z4)
Might be a good idear to get with Ace, and do a late day Political / Open type thread on Sundays.
One from the morning gets pretty stale by evening time.
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:24 PM (RG6z4)
Might be a good idear to get with Ace, and do a late day Political / Open type thread on Sundays.
One from the morning gets pretty stale by evening time.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 21, 2024 09:40 PM (xaFKb)
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Yikes. The Bills are most likely gonna lose on a missed field goal.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 21, 2024 09:40 PM (V8he0)
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Garrett has holsters? I thought he only had Crocs!
Posted by: RI Red at January 21, 2024 09:40 PM (cB1i4)
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Guys we got 20 minutes to make 120 posts up. 6 posts a minute. One every 10 seconds.
You can do it.
You can do it.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 09:40 PM (IFNME)
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233 Check out Garrett holsters for leather lined kydex. I really like these and have them for most of my carry guns.
Posted by: Weasel
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Garrett? Same guy that wears crocs Garrett?
Seriously thank for the gear tip. I bookmarked the website.
Posted by: Weasel
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Garrett? Same guy that wears crocs Garrett?
Seriously thank for the gear tip. I bookmarked the website.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:40 PM (2RPGb)
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching your butt at January 21, 2024 09:41 PM (qfLjt)
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It should be possible to put a silencer on a hunting rifle?
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:41 PM (fwDg9)
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So if you're the Buffalo kicker, what class of body armor do you choose to get out of the city?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:42 PM (v23vE)
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@206 Which makes a better shiv...a trimmed down section of leaf spring from a '87 Mustang
*Ect-shu-ally* the leaf spring has a chapter in the history ofshivs hunting knives. The purpose-made knife does not go that far back in history. They were often re-shaped from a broken sword, or what was left of a file, because blanks of specialty steel were just never called for until the late 19th century.
For whatever reason, the 1932 Studebakers (their classic year) had spring steel that was either a superior alloy, or a great heat-treat, and they are in demand even today as the starting point for customshivs hunting knives. AOP is probably a-packin one as we speak. Put Studebaker spring knife into a search engine, and you'll find them discussed on knife-maker groups.
*Ect-shu-ally* the leaf spring has a chapter in the history of
For whatever reason, the 1932 Studebakers (their classic year) had spring steel that was either a superior alloy, or a great heat-treat, and they are in demand even today as the starting point for custom
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Oh. There was a guy with his daughter shooting a Sig.22 suppressed. It was such a fun little thup thup thup sound. Always makes me giggle.
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Cheers y'all. This was a good day. Hope everyone has a good evening and a good week. Thanks Weasel and thanks DMV MGC.
Posted by: TRex at January 21, 2024 09:44 PM (IQ6Gq)
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242 It should be possible to put a silencer on a hunting rifle?
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:41 PM (fwDg9)
Yes. But you need a threaded barrel, most likely. And most hunting rifles will not be threaded - you'd likely have to get it custom.
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:41 PM (fwDg9)
Yes. But you need a threaded barrel, most likely. And most hunting rifles will not be threaded - you'd likely have to get it custom.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 09:44 PM (IFNME)
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The jeep cutting came from the M151a1 jeeps being unsafe. They would still sell the whole jeep surplus but, yes, cut in half. Of course there were people who would buy them and weld them back together.
Posted by: blaster
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It was done because they did not meet NHTSA modern safety standards which is kind of ridiculous. Saw the end results at a DMRO facility.
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It was done because they did not meet NHTSA modern safety standards which is kind of ridiculous. Saw the end results at a DMRO facility.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:44 PM (2RPGb)
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SPACE NEWS
The wind at the launch site is bad and I imagine the booster recovery zone is worse with heavy seas.
The recovery ship is named "Of Course I Still Love You" - a great sense of humor. There's two other ships but offhand I don't remember the names.
The wind at the launch site is bad and I imagine the booster recovery zone is worse with heavy seas.
The recovery ship is named "Of Course I Still Love You" - a great sense of humor. There's two other ships but offhand I don't remember the names.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching your butt! at January 21, 2024 09:45 PM (qfLjt)
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So if you're the Buffalo kicker, what class of body armor do you choose to get out of the city?
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Disguise yourself as a snowplow. [And I've got the golden comment-box outline again! 🧈 ]
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Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching your butt! at January 21, 2024 09:45 PM (qfLjt)
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"Just Read The Instructions" is another, and I think there is one named "Bob".
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"Just Read The Instructions" is another, and I think there is one named "Bob".
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The recovery ship is named "Of Course I Still Love You" - a great sense of humor. There's two other ships but offhand I don't remember the names.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching your butt! at January 21, 2024 09:45 PM (qfLjt)
A Shortfall of Gravitas
Just Read the Instructions
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching your butt! at January 21, 2024 09:45 PM (qfLjt)
A Shortfall of Gravitas
Just Read the Instructions
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Interesting NRA article that seems to merit a look, as it extolls the virtues of disciplined range time, of all things:
https://shorturl.at/kntU5
https://shorturl.at/kntU5
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 21, 2024 09:47 PM (hOUT3)
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242 It should be possible to put a silencer on a hunting rifle?
Posted by: Skip
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Yes it is. Gunsmiths thread barrels of hunting rifles all the time for muzzle breaks or suppressors.
Lot of new models come with threaded barrels either standard or as an option as suppressor use has become more common.
There are still some states that do not allow suppressor use when hunting but fewer than there used to be.
Posted by: Skip
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Yes it is. Gunsmiths thread barrels of hunting rifles all the time for muzzle breaks or suppressors.
Lot of new models come with threaded barrels either standard or as an option as suppressor use has become more common.
There are still some states that do not allow suppressor use when hunting but fewer than there used to be.
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Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 21, 2024 09:47 PM (hOUT3)
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That's just crazy-talk!
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That's just crazy-talk!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:48 PM (RG6z4)
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253 Interesting NRA article that seems to merit a look, as it extolls the virtues of disciplined range time, of all things:
https://shorturl.at/kntU5
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 21, 2024 09:47 PM (hOUT3)
That seems like a great idea! Maybe we could bring that up in a gun thread!
https://shorturl.at/kntU5
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 21, 2024 09:47 PM (hOUT3)
That seems like a great idea! Maybe we could bring that up in a gun thread!
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254 242 It should be possible to put a silencer on a hunting rifle?
Posted by: Skip
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Yes it is. Gunsmiths thread barrels of hunting rifles all the time for muzzle breaks or suppressors.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:48 PM (2RPGb)
What would such a service typically cost?
Posted by: Skip
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Yes it is. Gunsmiths thread barrels of hunting rifles all the time for muzzle breaks or suppressors.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:48 PM (2RPGb)
What would such a service typically cost?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:49 PM (v23vE)
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Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching anything at January 21, 2024 09:51 PM (qfLjt)
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So if you're the Buffalo kicker, what class of body armor do you choose to get out of the city?
A Bradley might be a good start.
A Bradley might be a good start.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 21, 2024 09:51 PM (V8he0)
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Somewhat firearms' related...
Fox News @FoxNews 15h
LeVar Burton shocked to discover he's descended from a Confederate soldier trib.al/ekMctZN
LeVar Burton shocked to discover he's descended from a Confederate soldier
Actor LeVar Burton was stunned to discover he had a secret White ancestor who served in the Confederate army when appearing on the PBS show, 'Finding Your Roots,' last week.
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I recall Larry David was shocked about Jewish ancestors of his in Atlanta who had a couple of house slaves. Ancestor was a doctor.
Fox News @FoxNews 15h
LeVar Burton shocked to discover he's descended from a Confederate soldier trib.al/ekMctZN
LeVar Burton shocked to discover he's descended from a Confederate soldier
Actor LeVar Burton was stunned to discover he had a secret White ancestor who served in the Confederate army when appearing on the PBS show, 'Finding Your Roots,' last week.
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I recall Larry David was shocked about Jewish ancestors of his in Atlanta who had a couple of house slaves. Ancestor was a doctor.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 21, 2024 09:51 PM (2yu8s)
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What would such a service typically cost?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:49 PM (v23vE)
You know. Twenty bucks. Same as in town.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:49 PM (v23vE)
You know. Twenty bucks. Same as in town.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 09:51 PM (IFNME)
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They are out hunting hogs with Ma Deuce or electric Gatling guns, doubt we are talking about your average hunt
Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2024 09:52 PM (fwDg9)
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What would such a service typically cost?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
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Probably about 100-150 to thread for a suppressor with an average stainless steel or chrome moly barrel. A gunsmith has to take their time with it as you want the threads concentric to the bore or bad things can happen when a suppressor is mounted as in baffle strikes. They make rods to check the work to make sure after threading and mounting the suppressor that doesn't happen in the field.
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Probably about 100-150 to thread for a suppressor with an average stainless steel or chrome moly barrel. A gunsmith has to take their time with it as you want the threads concentric to the bore or bad things can happen when a suppressor is mounted as in baffle strikes. They make rods to check the work to make sure after threading and mounting the suppressor that doesn't happen in the field.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:52 PM (2RPGb)
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Lots of hunting rifles are now being produced with threaded barrels. They reduce the "boom" at the muzzle, but if your bullet is supersonic ( more than 1000 feet per second) you still have the "crack" to deal with.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM (ln6cw)
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That's just crazy-talk!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:48 PM (RG6z4)
Sorry, I forgot which thread I was on!
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That's just crazy-talk!
Posted by: Weasel at January 21, 2024 09:48 PM (RG6z4)
Sorry, I forgot which thread I was on!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM (hOUT3)
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Thank you Blaster.
Thank you Blaster.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching anything? at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM (qfLjt)
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>>> It should be possible to put a silencer on a hunting rifle?
Posted by: Skip
It is possible.
Legal to hunt with is another matter.
A lot are sold with basic muzzle brakes. Screw it off. On goes the can. Most of the feral hog culling is probably done with one installed... but for general regulated game I'd check with the state wildlife regulators.
Posted by: Skip
It is possible.
Legal to hunt with is another matter.
A lot are sold with basic muzzle brakes. Screw it off. On goes the can. Most of the feral hog culling is probably done with one installed... but for general regulated game I'd check with the state wildlife regulators.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM (cOq4q)
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261 What would such a service typically cost?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:49 PM (v23vE)
You know. Twenty bucks. Same as in town.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 09:51 PM (IFNME)
Walked right into that one, for sure ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:49 PM (v23vE)
You know. Twenty bucks. Same as in town.
Posted by: blaster at January 21, 2024 09:51 PM (IFNME)
Walked right into that one, for sure ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM (v23vE)
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Thanks, Weasel. Have a great week.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 21, 2024 09:54 PM (V8he0)
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Walked right into that one, for sure ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM (v23vE)
You're new here, right?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM (v23vE)
You're new here, right?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 21, 2024 09:55 PM (hOUT3)
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So if you're the Buffalo kicker, what class of body armor do you choose to get out of the city?
A Bradley might be a good start.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 21, 2024 09:51 PM (V8he0)
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I put the blame on the coach. Some shitty play calling.
A Bradley might be a good start.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 21, 2024 09:51 PM (V8he0)
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I put the blame on the coach. Some shitty play calling.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 09:55 PM (W/lyH)
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you still have the "crack" to deal with.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM
I find Secret Service agents are pretty good at that.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM
I find Secret Service agents are pretty good at that.
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Schnorflepuppy,
I meant to also mention in some cases, easier just to get a replacement barrel that is already threaded. Savage models 110 and 11 with the barrel nut or the new Ruger American models have factory ready barrels threaded correctly that a gunsmith can put in place and headspace check in a matter of minutes after removing the old barrel.
Older Remington 700s can be retrofitted using the Remage barrel nut substitution to achieve the same result.
I meant to also mention in some cases, easier just to get a replacement barrel that is already threaded. Savage models 110 and 11 with the barrel nut or the new Ruger American models have factory ready barrels threaded correctly that a gunsmith can put in place and headspace check in a matter of minutes after removing the old barrel.
Older Remington 700s can be retrofitted using the Remage barrel nut substitution to achieve the same result.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:57 PM (2RPGb)
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271 Walked right into that one, for sure ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM (v23vE)
You're new here, right?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 21, 2024 09:55 PM (hOUT3)
Sadly, no, having attended TxMoMe 2021 and 2023. Distracted by sportsball, I was -- yeah, that's the ticket!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:53 PM (v23vE)
You're new here, right?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 21, 2024 09:55 PM (hOUT3)
Sadly, no, having attended TxMoMe 2021 and 2023. Distracted by sportsball, I was -- yeah, that's the ticket!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:57 PM (v23vE)
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ONT Nood
Posted by: olddog in mo at January 21, 2024 09:58 PM (ju2Fy)
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Older Remington 700s can be retrofitted using the Remage barrel nut substitution to achieve the same result.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:57 PM (2RPGb)
Not changing my 700.
No suppressor either.
It's fun firing that first round and everyone on the range stopping and looking over.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:57 PM (2RPGb)
Not changing my 700.
No suppressor either.
It's fun firing that first round and everyone on the range stopping and looking over.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 21, 2024 09:58 PM (W/lyH)
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The M151 "Mutt" jeep was perhaps unfairly maligned, as was the M1 carbine when it was first issued. I heard directly from the guys at the factory museum to avoid it at all costs because its handling was so treacherous. In fact, it had independent suspension, so had a tendency to load up and launch if driven from pavement into soft ground under acceleration, a terrible rollover hazard in combat situations. But, baja racers and modern midgets will do the same, so it's not as if they had a lit fuse or anything. Operated only off-road, as the spec called for, they're probably better than the traditional jeep. The difference was that inexperienced drivers were already used to using live-axle small trucks in bad ground, and it took the US military a generation and some casualties to figure out how to train the operators. During that time, barrack-room engineering gave it a reputation it could never live down.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 21, 2024 09:58 PM (zdLoL)
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274 Schnorflepuppy,
I meant to also mention in some cases, easier just to get a replacement barrel that is already threaded. Savage models 110 and 11 with the barrel nut or the new Ruger American models have factory ready barrels threaded correctly that a gunsmith can put in place and headspace check in a matter of minutes after removing the old barrel.
Older Remington 700s can be retrofitted using the Remage barrel nut substitution to achieve the same result.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:57 PM (2RPGb)
That's good to know, whig. Thank you!
I meant to also mention in some cases, easier just to get a replacement barrel that is already threaded. Savage models 110 and 11 with the barrel nut or the new Ruger American models have factory ready barrels threaded correctly that a gunsmith can put in place and headspace check in a matter of minutes after removing the old barrel.
Older Remington 700s can be retrofitted using the Remage barrel nut substitution to achieve the same result.
Posted by: whig at January 21, 2024 09:57 PM (2RPGb)
That's good to know, whig. Thank you!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 21, 2024 09:58 PM (v23vE)
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A lot of the new hunting rifles come with threaded barrels. My buddy just got a Savage 300 Win Mag, $500 rifle, it came with muzzle brake and a 2 stage trigger. That's a pretty basic hunting rifle but it shoots really well.
Posted by: ck at January 21, 2024 09:58 PM (ljHmZ)
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Ben Had, how are you? So looking forward to Corsicana this year...hope you are doing well in 2024.
Posted by: Grateful at January 21, 2024 10:00 PM (IQ6Gq)
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The recovery ship is named "Of Course I Still Love You" - a great sense of humor. There's two other ships but offhand I don't remember the names.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching your butt! at January 21, 2024 09:45 PM (qfLjt)
I want to know when they will have a drone ship called “THE SPICE MUST FLOW”.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Space you have trouble scratching your butt! at January 21, 2024 09:45 PM (qfLjt)
I want to know when they will have a drone ship called “THE SPICE MUST FLOW”.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 21, 2024 10:50 PM (8sMut)
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Too late, too late will be the cry...
But for posterity: Did some range time testing some S&B 230 gr JHP rounds. The ammo has some nice snap and it's accurate. However the nose is a wide dish and lots of pistols will have issues chambering them. So far, only my Ruger SR1911 and my Glock 21 and 30 and 36 could feed the rounds. Even my XD45, one of the gold standards for reliability, had one failure to feed out of each mag of 13. Frustrating. I also had two light primer strikes though they fired the second time. Might be a spring or striker issue.
But for posterity: Did some range time testing some S&B 230 gr JHP rounds. The ammo has some nice snap and it's accurate. However the nose is a wide dish and lots of pistols will have issues chambering them. So far, only my Ruger SR1911 and my Glock 21 and 30 and 36 could feed the rounds. Even my XD45, one of the gold standards for reliability, had one failure to feed out of each mag of 13. Frustrating. I also had two light primer strikes though they fired the second time. Might be a spring or striker issue.
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