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McConnell and Other Liberal Trash Traitor "Republicans" Are Pressuring Speaker Johnson to Accept Their "Deal" For Protecting Ukraine's Borders While Providing No Protection for America's
Scumbags, sellouts, grifters, foreign agents and criminals.
To hell with the "Biden Republicans."I can't wait until this monster is gone.
President Biden and congressional leaders in both parties are ramping up pressure on Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to accept an expected deal on Ukraine funding and border security, warning national security is at risk without action by Congress. Security experts at a White House meeting Wednesday briefed Johnson and other leaders about the dire situation faced by Ukraine. Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines and White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan were among those in attendance. The looming package also includes funding for Israel and the Indo-Pacific region, two other hot spots where U.S. concerns are rising. Lawmakers say the intent was to highlight that Congress is running out of time to pass an emergency supplemental and that the primary intended audience was Johnson, who has pushed back against the emerging Senate border deal amid pressure from conservatives in his own conference. The White House and congressional leaders, including Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), are stepping up their engagement with Johnson after he poured water on the border security talks over the weekend.
Then fuck Ukraine. Let them die. If you won't defend the US border, then let the Russians stage their own massive unchecked invasion across Ukraine's.
Johnson on Saturday posted a Fox News summary of the deal, which reported it would include an increase in green cards and allow up to 5,000 migrants a day into the United States. "Absolutely not," Johnson wrote above the news graphic. The Speaker then doubled down on his criticism Wednesday morning, telling reporters: "I don't think now is the time for comprehensive immigration reform, because we know how complicated that is." He called for more time for the talks to play out, and made another pitch for H.R. 2, the Secure the Border Act, which the House passed in May without any Democratic votes. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), however, has called that bill a "non-starter" in the Senate.
.@SpeakerJohnson: "I looked at the President right across the table... I said, Mr. President, you have the authority right now to end this catastrophe. It's your actions that created it." pic.twitter.com/2X8WMNtIN7
— GOP (@GOP) January 18, 2024
McConnell: “Even though we've been emphasizing the border, I want to remind everybody of the importance of Ukraine.” pic.twitter.com/dDN4Q1AL8T
— TheBlaze (@theblaze) December 12, 2023
.@RandPaul GOES OFF on the DC uniparty:
— Young Americans for Liberty (@YALiberty) January 10, 2024
"People like Senator McConnell care more about Ukraine than anything else... he wants to send $60 billion of your money to Ukraine." pic.twitter.com/CYKxxy3vUJ
.@JoeNBC: "If Speaker Johnson had his way, Vladimir Putin would already [have taken] Kyiv because he's voted against all funding to defend Ukraine against Russian aggression— And now he's also killing a bill that would stop the chaos on the southern border? You gotta ask why." pic.twitter.com/8fPZfxJTjw
— Morning Joe (@Morning_Joe) January 18, 2024
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 18, 2024 12:08 PM (+sD5M)
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Unexpectedly.
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:09 PM (TgVp6)
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Winning.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 18, 2024 12:09 PM (+sD5M)
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I'll get the others.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 18, 2024 12:09 PM (+sD5M)
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"I want to remind everybody of the importance of Ukraine.”
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Ukraine is not important to America at all.
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Ukraine is not important to America at all.
Posted by: Jay in PA at January 18, 2024 12:09 PM (i7Q7S)
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And Mitch will run for re-election and win his primary by 50 points again because KY Republicans genuinely like him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Protect Ukraine, watch ours melt away
Rat bastards
Rat bastards
Posted by: Skip at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (9jCEt)
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In a negotiation, you can't just be willing to say you're willing to walk away from a deal and accept the consequences. You have to actually walk away and be comfortable with the consequences.
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Nitpick.
You don't have to be comfortable with them. You just have to accept them.
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Nitpick.
You don't have to be comfortable with them. You just have to accept them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
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They’re doing this for a reason and I am still not totally clear on why. Cheap labor? Guaranteed Democratic votes? I can’t figure it out.
Posted by: keena at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (RiTnx)
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I can't wait until this monster is gone.
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Yeah.
The next monster will be indistinguishable, but that one will nonetheless be gone.
Too bad he'll be able to enjoy the brief time left to him, instead of being locked in a giant bird cage suspended over the town square so the people can pelt him with rotten food.
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Yeah.
The next monster will be indistinguishable, but that one will nonetheless be gone.
Too bad he'll be able to enjoy the brief time left to him, instead of being locked in a giant bird cage suspended over the town square so the people can pelt him with rotten food.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (z8vUP)
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The Speaker then doubled down on his criticism Wednesday morning, telling reporters: "I don't think now is the time for comprehensive immigration reform, because we know how complicated that is."
This is a bit disappointing. I'd prefer Johnson had said "There will NEVER be a time for comprehensive immigration reform, since that just means amnesty."
This is a bit disappointing. I'd prefer Johnson had said "There will NEVER be a time for comprehensive immigration reform, since that just means amnesty."
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (CsUN+)
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Joe Scarborough is a big bag of fail. F*ck that guy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (+sD5M)
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If you won't defend the US border, then let the Russians stage their own massive unchecked invasion across Ukraine's.
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Racist.
I think.
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Racist.
I think.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (z8vUP)
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6 And Mitch will run for re-election and win his primary by 50 points again because KY Republicans genuinely like him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
This place is strange.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
This place is strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (zZu0s)
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6 And Mitch will run for re-election and win his primary by 50 points again because KY Republicans genuinely like him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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There is evidence that Mitch cheats too in elections. Basically, his function is the same as Hunter Biden--bagman to collect grift for his GOP senator 'family'.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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There is evidence that Mitch cheats too in elections. Basically, his function is the same as Hunter Biden--bagman to collect grift for his GOP senator 'family'.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (gvoQe)
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10 Yeah.
The next monster will be indistinguishable, but that one will nonetheless be gone.
Too bad he'll be able to enjoy the brief time left to him, instead of being locked in a giant bird cage suspended over the town square so the people can pelt him with rotten food.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (z8vUP)
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The next monster is Thune, who is all in on McConnell's efforts.
The next monster will be indistinguishable, but that one will nonetheless be gone.
Too bad he'll be able to enjoy the brief time left to him, instead of being locked in a giant bird cage suspended over the town square so the people can pelt him with rotten food.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (z8vUP)
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The next monster is Thune, who is all in on McConnell's efforts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (GBKbO)
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In a negotiation, you can't just be willing to say you're willing to walk away from a deal and accept the consequences. You have to actually walk away and be comfortable with the consequences.
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Yup. What is true in the car salesman's cubicle is still true with larger stakes.
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Yup. What is true in the car salesman's cubicle is still true with larger stakes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (z8vUP)
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Secure the border first, then we'll talk about reform.
Posted by: BignJames at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (AwYPR)
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Amen!
Posted by: Bob in Idaho at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (8pLV0)
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I want to remind everybody what an arrogant knob gobbler I am.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (jbnUc)
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This place is strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (zZu0s)
Granted, but his comment is not incorrect.
This place is strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (zZu0s)
Granted, but his comment is not incorrect.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (+sD5M)
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I never liked Ukraine anyway. Their busty ladies, sure.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (zZu0s)
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If McConnell and his buddy Biden will not protect America, then we absolutely must not spend another dime protecting Ukraine.
Period. That simple.
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Yup. I don't care about Ukraine anyway and never have, but using it as a cudgel to get something I want is appealing.
Period. That simple.
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Yup. I don't care about Ukraine anyway and never have, but using it as a cudgel to get something I want is appealing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:14 PM (z8vUP)
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Security experts at a White House meeting Wednesday briefed Johnson and other leaders about the dire situation faced by Ukraine.
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Johnson should counter with his own security experts about the dire situation here in America.
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Johnson should counter with his own security experts about the dire situation here in America.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 18, 2024 12:14 PM (7fElN)
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Granted, but his comment is not incorrect.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (+sD5M)
That's one of the reasons Kentucky is strange.
AOSHQ is ALSO strange, but that was not what I was speaking to.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (+sD5M)
That's one of the reasons Kentucky is strange.
AOSHQ is ALSO strange, but that was not what I was speaking to.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:14 PM (zZu0s)
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"I want to remind everybody of the importance of Ukraine.” - he forgot to add, "especially to our continued corruption."
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 18, 2024 12:14 PM (yACxx)
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Security experts at a White House meeting Wednesday briefed Johnson and other leaders about the dire situation faced by Ukraine.
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I was unaware that our senators and representatives were responsible for Ukraine and not for America.
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I was unaware that our senators and representatives were responsible for Ukraine and not for America.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 18, 2024 12:14 PM (BwMHy)
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14 Democrat House members voted with the Republicans on a non binding border security resolution.
Posted by: rd at January 18, 2024 12:14 PM (hFKyk)
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14 6 And Mitch will run for re-election and win his primary by 50 points again because KY Republicans genuinely like him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
This place is strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (zZu0s)
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In KY's defense, Mitch won his last primary by 76 points, so it'd be an improvement.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
This place is strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (zZu0s)
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In KY's defense, Mitch won his last primary by 76 points, so it'd be an improvement.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:14 PM (GBKbO)
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My security is more important than theirs. Period. If McConnell is going to refuse to provide for my security for the 1000th time, then let all the Ukrainians die.
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GASP!
This sounds like fascistic "America First" jingoism!
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GASP!
This sounds like fascistic "America First" jingoism!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:14 PM (z8vUP)
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He will either accept that Americans are more important than his foreign funders, or his foreign funders can all fucking die.
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I like this vision of the future.
I don't believe it for a second, but I like it.
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I like this vision of the future.
I don't believe it for a second, but I like it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (z8vUP)
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Why do I feel we're gonna get shafted on this
Posted by: It's me donna at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (n2vyf)
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"People like Senator McConnell care more about Ukraine than anything else... he wants to send $60 billion of your money to Ukraine."
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$60 billion? That was in the first fucking month, Rand!
It's more like closing in on $500 billion total, and will likely be over $1 trillion when all is said and done.
How much of that is being kicked back to our treasonous political caste? If only we had a free media and feral spending accountability ...
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$60 billion? That was in the first fucking month, Rand!
It's more like closing in on $500 billion total, and will likely be over $1 trillion when all is said and done.
How much of that is being kicked back to our treasonous political caste? If only we had a free media and feral spending accountability ...
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (TgVp6)
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Ace, once again, out here speaking for a whole lot of people.
Posted by: Brando at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (lg2+d)
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Thunedoggle is what we get next.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (R4t5M)
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I would like Speaker Johnson (or even the Speaker's Johnson) to say something like;
"Senator McConnell says we can't get a good deal with Trump if he's elected.
I disagree, I believe we'll get real, true border security and control of illegal entry to our country with President Trump at the helm.
To make myself clear, I have no interest in this bill. It is dead on arrival. And i will do my damnest to defeat it."
But, it's just a dream...a beautiful, beautiful dream.
I would like Speaker Johnson (or even the Speaker's Johnson) to say something like;
"Senator McConnell says we can't get a good deal with Trump if he's elected.
I disagree, I believe we'll get real, true border security and control of illegal entry to our country with President Trump at the helm.
To make myself clear, I have no interest in this bill. It is dead on arrival. And i will do my damnest to defeat it."
But, it's just a dream...a beautiful, beautiful dream.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (nFnyb)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (EXyHK)
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What’s up with Kentucky? They have McConnell, the worst senator out of 100 and the best, Rand Paul (although I might give that distinction to JD Vance)…. And they re-elected a dem governor because he’s “moderate”… voters there are schizophrenic…. Or maybe, like many other places these days, voting is overwhelmed by shenanigans
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (1jdMT)
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Too bad he'll be able to enjoy the brief time left to him, instead of being locked in a giant bird cage suspended over the town square so the people can pelt him with rotten food.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (z8vUP)
I can't even express how happy that image makes me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:12 PM (z8vUP)
I can't even express how happy that image makes me.
Posted by: ....and here we go at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (SNVFk)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (jbnUc)
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"Absolutely not," Johnson wrote above the news graphic.
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As I put it on the Morning Report, I am nonetheless not hopeful.
Johnson probably won't advance it. The Bailey will be surrendered by the Party and the *next* bill they send will be marginally less egregious, but spun as much more "reasonable."
The House will decline to attack the Motte, the Senate will claim that their commitment to the border is unwavering, and we will get a "deal" that is merely spectacularly bad instead of totally catastrophic
I've seen this show before.
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As I put it on the Morning Report, I am nonetheless not hopeful.
Johnson probably won't advance it. The Bailey will be surrendered by the Party and the *next* bill they send will be marginally less egregious, but spun as much more "reasonable."
The House will decline to attack the Motte, the Senate will claim that their commitment to the border is unwavering, and we will get a "deal" that is merely spectacularly bad instead of totally catastrophic
I've seen this show before.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (z8vUP)
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The Democrats got amnesty under Reagan with the promise of enforcing the law afterward. Forty years later and they refuse to meet their obligations on that deal. So no; I have no sympathy for the problems of other countries at this time.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (lXCUP)
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Democrat Mayors and Governors all bitch about the illegal aliens, but not one of them tell Biden to close the border.
Keep the illegals, DEPORT THE DEMOCRATS!
Keep the illegals, DEPORT THE DEMOCRATS!
Posted by: rd at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (hFKyk)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (DsA2n)
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If we want to reduce the white proportion of the population, we should exile the US Senate.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (ogTiX)
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McConnell should be in a nursing home pinching male orderlies bottoms.
Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (VMFAF)
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I would like Speaker Johnson (or even the Speaker's Johnson) to say something like;
"Senator McConnell says we can't get a good deal with Trump if he's elected. ...
Posted by: naturalfake at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (nFnyb)
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McConnell is likely spot-on, 100% correct.
The key question to ask is "a good deal for whom?"
"Senator McConnell says we can't get a good deal with Trump if he's elected. ...
Posted by: naturalfake at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (nFnyb)
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McConnell is likely spot-on, 100% correct.
The key question to ask is "a good deal for whom?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (z8vUP)
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And now he's also killing a bill that would stop the chaos on the southern border?
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GFY and sell gaslighting somewhere else, asshat.
Why will new laws make any difference when existing laws are willfully not enforced with impunity?
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GFY and sell gaslighting somewhere else, asshat.
Why will new laws make any difference when existing laws are willfully not enforced with impunity?
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (TgVp6)
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The House will not approve this stand alone, but everything Mitch and his Dem friends want will be in the next massive government funding bill that nobody reads.
Posted by: Jay in PA at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (i7Q7S)
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Secure the border first, then we'll talk about reform.
Only if "securing the border" means deportation of anyone here illegally in the last 20 years. Both DeSantis and Trump have made noises in that direction.
Only if "securing the border" means deportation of anyone here illegally in the last 20 years. Both DeSantis and Trump have made noises in that direction.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (CsUN+)
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McConnell will never leave voluntarily. He's there for the duration of his life. The Sam Bankman-Fried scenario is an example as to why. Without the clout to shut down his involvement in benefiting from Fried's scheme, he's exposed. And considering his involvement in Chinese business opportunities (and how that ties into various parties on both sides of the aisle)...he needs to be able to wield power for protection. So, the only way he leaves is in a box. And, unfortunately, he gets better healthcare than most of us.
Posted by: Orson at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (dIske)
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My feelings about Ukraine used to be ambivalent. They aren't that strong now.
Posted by: huerfano at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (Q4KYm)
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One of the main things you get and have gotten wrong, ace, is the priority is not the Ukraine grift. The main priority is the open border. And this is just as true for McConnell/most of the GOP as it is for "Biden" and those who pull his strings.
That's the whole enchilada, and the military will massacre American citizens if there is any actual attempt to close the border.
And, no, it is not a "Great Replacement."
It is a genocide.
And the Republicans are fine with it, too.
That's the whole enchilada, and the military will massacre American citizens if there is any actual attempt to close the border.
And, no, it is not a "Great Replacement."
It is a genocide.
And the Republicans are fine with it, too.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (KSNKu)
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41 I've seen this show before.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (z8vUP)
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I'm sorry, but this is Team Red we're talking about.
Giving power to Team Blue would mean the end of the world, so anything that Team Red does is ultimately acceptable because Team Blue would have done worse.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (z8vUP)
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I'm sorry, but this is Team Red we're talking about.
Giving power to Team Blue would mean the end of the world, so anything that Team Red does is ultimately acceptable because Team Blue would have done worse.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
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Haha. Whoops!
Haha. Whoops!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 18, 2024 12:18 PM (jbnUc)
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38 What’s up with Kentucky? They have McConnell, the worst senator out of 100 and the best, Rand Paul (although I might give that distinction to JD Vance)…. And they re-elected a dem governor because he’s “moderate”… voters there are schizophrenic…. Or maybe, like many other places these days, voting is overwhelmed by shenanigans
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (1jdMT)
Kentucky has always been weird. We may also be corrupt, but I dunno. I have not seen it, but I am voting in fairly toney areas.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (1jdMT)
Kentucky has always been weird. We may also be corrupt, but I dunno. I have not seen it, but I am voting in fairly toney areas.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:18 PM (zZu0s)
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43 Democrat Mayors and Governors all bitch about the illegal aliens, but not one of them tell Biden to close the border.
Keep the illegals, DEPORT THE DEMOCRATS!
Posted by: rd at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (hFKyk)
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Wasn't it reported yesterday that Hochul is going to DC to tell them to straighten out the border mess?
This immigration issue must be having some kind of effect in internal polling that is scaring the shit out of non-DC Democrats.
Keep the illegals, DEPORT THE DEMOCRATS!
Posted by: rd at January 18, 2024 12:16 PM (hFKyk)
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Wasn't it reported yesterday that Hochul is going to DC to tell them to straighten out the border mess?
This immigration issue must be having some kind of effect in internal polling that is scaring the shit out of non-DC Democrats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:18 PM (GBKbO)
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"And now he's also killing a bill that would stop the chaos on the southern border?"
The bill will not stop the chaos. It will legitimize and fund it.
The bill will not stop the chaos. It will legitimize and fund it.
Posted by: Ripley at January 18, 2024 12:18 PM (JojsZ)
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"In a negotiation, you can't just be willing to say you're willing to walk away from a deal and accept the consequences. You have to actually walk away and be comfortable with the consequences."
If only we had a presidential candidate who was skilled in the art of negotiating...maybe even someone who wrote a book on it...
;-)
If only we had a presidential candidate who was skilled in the art of negotiating...maybe even someone who wrote a book on it...
;-)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J Trump is our duly elected president at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (l0Cy4)
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (RVloE)
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What’s up with Kentucky? They have McConnell, the worst senator out of 100 and the best, Rand Paul
Rand Paul shows they're pure, but McConnell brings home the bacon. Self-interest FTW!
Rand Paul shows they're pure, but McConnell brings home the bacon. Self-interest FTW!
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (CsUN+)
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@33
>>How much of that is being kicked back to our treasonous political caste? If only we had a free media and feral spending accountability .
Virtually none of the money is actually getting in theater.
Once you realize that the FEDGov is run like the Mob ran the Tiki Bar in Goodfellas, all will be illuminated.
>>How much of that is being kicked back to our treasonous political caste? If only we had a free media and feral spending accountability .
Virtually none of the money is actually getting in theater.
Once you realize that the FEDGov is run like the Mob ran the Tiki Bar in Goodfellas, all will be illuminated.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (rc3Z7)
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He will either accept that Americans are more important than his foreign funders, or his foreign funders can all fucking die.
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This.
Well-said, Lamont!
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This.
Well-said, Lamont!
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (TgVp6)
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58 "And now he's also killing a bill that would stop the chaos on the southern border?"
The bill will not stop the chaos. It will legitimize and fund it.
Posted by: Ripley at January 18, 2024 12:18 PM (JojsZ)
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If Joe Scarborough says it enough, it becomes true because leftists are Gnostics.
The bill will not stop the chaos. It will legitimize and fund it.
Posted by: Ripley at January 18, 2024 12:18 PM (JojsZ)
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If Joe Scarborough says it enough, it becomes true because leftists are Gnostics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Remember Tom Daschle? We all sure loved Thune when he beat that idiot….. little did we know they’re almost the same guy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (1jdMT)
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Putin will soon be marching through the Chunnel to London.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (63Dwl)
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9 They’re doing this for a reason and I am still not totally clear on why. Cheap labor? Guaranteed Democratic votes? I can’t figure it out.
Posted by: keena
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Mitch and his cohort of fellow GOP travelers in the Senate function as uniparty shills for whatever nonsense is cooked up by our nation's oligarchs in the military industrial complex, the financial industry, the bureaucracy, and the hyper wealthy. None of them really have a concept of a nation state anymore but view the US as a resource to be plundered for the global and their own good. That is why America First is an anathema to them.
Property developers, the construction industry, the food processing plants, etc. all want cheap labor and our retailing establishment wants more easy profits from illegal immigration plus Black Rock etc. benefit from rising rents and demands for housing.
Literally the goal is population replacement on a large scale for the US as a divided country is easier to rule by pitting one group against another.
Posted by: keena
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Mitch and his cohort of fellow GOP travelers in the Senate function as uniparty shills for whatever nonsense is cooked up by our nation's oligarchs in the military industrial complex, the financial industry, the bureaucracy, and the hyper wealthy. None of them really have a concept of a nation state anymore but view the US as a resource to be plundered for the global and their own good. That is why America First is an anathema to them.
Property developers, the construction industry, the food processing plants, etc. all want cheap labor and our retailing establishment wants more easy profits from illegal immigration plus Black Rock etc. benefit from rising rents and demands for housing.
Literally the goal is population replacement on a large scale for the US as a divided country is easier to rule by pitting one group against another.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (gvoQe)
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They are in deep.
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (V13WU)
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This.
Well-said, Lamont!
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (TgVp6)
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Almost makes up for that 2 year old story that he "accidentally" put back into draft.
This.
Well-said, Lamont!
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (TgVp6)
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Almost makes up for that 2 year old story that he "accidentally" put back into draft.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
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Wasn't it reported yesterday that Hochul is going to DC to tell them to straighten out the border mess?
This immigration issue must be having some kind of effect in internal polling that is scaring the shit out of non-DC Democrats.
So naturally, our "leaders" choose now to give up.
This immigration issue must be having some kind of effect in internal polling that is scaring the shit out of non-DC Democrats.
So naturally, our "leaders" choose now to give up.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (CsUN+)
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The war in Ukraine must be supported because of all the lies, corruption and graft emanating from it. If Putin prevails then the truth will out and that must be stopped and there is no amount of your treasure or blood that these evil scumbags won't spill in order to prevent that from happening. All this in spite of the recent death of an American journalist Gonzalo Lira who went there to report on exactly what I have just written.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (MeG8a)
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Virtually none of the money is actually getting in theater.
Once you realize that the FEDGov is run like the Mob ran the Tiki Bar in Goodfellas, all will be illuminated.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (rc3Z7)
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Heh, good analogy.
Once you realize that the FEDGov is run like the Mob ran the Tiki Bar in Goodfellas, all will be illuminated.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (rc3Z7)
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Heh, good analogy.
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (TgVp6)
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Once you realize that the FEDGov is run like the Mob ran the Tiki Bar in Goodfellas, all will be illuminated.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (rc3Z7)
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"F*** you. Pay me."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (rc3Z7)
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"F*** you. Pay me."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 18, 2024 12:21 PM (7fElN)
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65 Remember Tom Daschle? We all sure loved Thune when he beat that idiot….. little did we know they’re almost the same guy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
That is the Uniparty and they compose of at least 60-70 senators and probably 150-200 members at a minimum in the House.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
That is the Uniparty and they compose of at least 60-70 senators and probably 150-200 members at a minimum in the House.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:21 PM (gvoQe)
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The Border is like the Economy.
It is an issue you don't want on peoples minds when they are about to Vote.
It is an issue you don't want on peoples minds when they are about to Vote.
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2024 12:21 PM (RVloE)
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70 So naturally, our "leaders" choose now to give up.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (CsUN+)
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I assume they figure on getting as much graft in before calling it fixed and then trying to get the media to stop reporting on the issue.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (CsUN+)
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I assume they figure on getting as much graft in before calling it fixed and then trying to get the media to stop reporting on the issue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:21 PM (GBKbO)
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They’re doing this for a reason and I am still not totally clear on why. Cheap labor? Guaranteed Democratic votes? I can’t figure it out.
They're deputizing illegals as police now and giving them guns. We will all be J6 prisoners soon.
They're deputizing illegals as police now and giving them guns. We will all be J6 prisoners soon.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 18, 2024 12:21 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:22 PM (FVME7)
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ace, since you...follow Disney, here is this (at the DM) :
"Activist investor Nelson Peltz has nominated himself and former Disney CFO Jay Rasulo to the board of the entertainment giant's directors, slamming CEO Bob Iger as 'underperforming.'
Peltz' firm Trian Fund Management, which owns about $2.5 billion worth of Disney shares, submitted the filing on Thursday, sparking a second proxy war in the company in just two years.
Speaking on CNBC on Thursday, Peltz said: 'This board- from Bob to every independent director, has underperformed the S&P on every measure....(here is the funny bit) ..They said I have no media experience — I don’t claim to have any... But I will tell you, I don’t think they have much media experience.' "
"Activist investor Nelson Peltz has nominated himself and former Disney CFO Jay Rasulo to the board of the entertainment giant's directors, slamming CEO Bob Iger as 'underperforming.'
Peltz' firm Trian Fund Management, which owns about $2.5 billion worth of Disney shares, submitted the filing on Thursday, sparking a second proxy war in the company in just two years.
Speaking on CNBC on Thursday, Peltz said: 'This board- from Bob to every independent director, has underperformed the S&P on every measure....(here is the funny bit) ..They said I have no media experience — I don’t claim to have any... But I will tell you, I don’t think they have much media experience.' "
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:22 PM (V13WU)
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$60 billion? That was in the first fucking month, Rand!
It's more like closing in on $500 billion total, and will likely be over $1 trillion when all is said and done.
How much of that is being kicked back to our treasonous political caste? If only we had a free media and feral spending accountability ...
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (TgVp6)
Let's not forget the amount of weaponry that we have given them which now can't be accounted for.
$60 billion? That was in the first fucking month, Rand!
It's more like closing in on $500 billion total, and will likely be over $1 trillion when all is said and done.
How much of that is being kicked back to our treasonous political caste? If only we had a free media and feral spending accountability ...
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (TgVp6)
Let's not forget the amount of weaponry that we have given them which now can't be accounted for.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 18, 2024 12:22 PM (N39Ws)
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saw that on Laura last night. Johnson was squirming and Laura was holding his feet to the fire... Both said they have talked to Trump and he is vehemently opposed to the "bill." or what they think will be the bill
Posted by: It's me donna at January 18, 2024 12:22 PM (n2vyf)
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All this in spite of the recent death of an American journalist Gonzalo Lira who went there to report on exactly what I have just written.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (MeG8a)
Well we can't have that.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (MeG8a)
Well we can't have that.
Posted by: BignJames at January 18, 2024 12:22 PM (AwYPR)
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If we top spending taxpayer money on the Ukraine, Russia wins. If Russia wins, they get stuck with the reconstruction tab. Where could the American taxpayer find a better deal?
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:22 PM (ogTiX)
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Almost 100,000 Americans died from drug overdoses in 2023. Most of that was from fentanyl coming across the open border and originating in Biden's benefactor country, China.
Our schools, social services, hospitals and communities have been overrun by illegal immigrants. Our tax money is being used to pay organizations like the Red Cross and other NGO's to facilitate this illegality and enrich people who are not even citizens. Meanwhile, our seniors, veterans and most needy get put to the back of the line.
Given that, do you really think most people give a shit about Ukraine, or shutting down the government in order to get the border secured and start removing illegal aliens, most of whom are now from countries hostile to America?
Go to hell, senate.
Our schools, social services, hospitals and communities have been overrun by illegal immigrants. Our tax money is being used to pay organizations like the Red Cross and other NGO's to facilitate this illegality and enrich people who are not even citizens. Meanwhile, our seniors, veterans and most needy get put to the back of the line.
Given that, do you really think most people give a shit about Ukraine, or shutting down the government in order to get the border secured and start removing illegal aliens, most of whom are now from countries hostile to America?
Go to hell, senate.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (ZSrej)
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And they re-elected a dem governor because he’s “moderate”… voters there are schizophrenic…. Or maybe, like many other places these days, voting is overwhelmed by shenanigans
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Vote buying in KY is a long running tradition in poorer areas of the state.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Vote buying in KY is a long running tradition in poorer areas of the state.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (gvoQe)
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I assume they figure on getting as much graft in before calling it fixed and then trying to get the media to stop reporting on the issue.
I think this is a tell for '24. The Dems aren't as convinced as some here that they can pull off the steal again, so they're working with "our side" to get a deal in place before either DeS or Trump is back in charge, and their ability to control events goes away. That's what I'm telling myself anyway.
I think this is a tell for '24. The Dems aren't as convinced as some here that they can pull off the steal again, so they're working with "our side" to get a deal in place before either DeS or Trump is back in charge, and their ability to control events goes away. That's what I'm telling myself anyway.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (CsUN+)
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The war in Ukraine must be supported because of all the lies, corruption and graft emanating from it.
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how else are we supposed to make money and set up our children, our grandchildren, our friends and our family for life and then some ???
---DC Denizens
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how else are we supposed to make money and set up our children, our grandchildren, our friends and our family for life and then some ???
---DC Denizens
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (V13WU)
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Literally the goal is population replacement on a large scale for the US as a divided country is easier to rule by pitting one group against another.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (gvoQe)
One hundred percent. It is no more complicated.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:20 PM (gvoQe)
One hundred percent. It is no more complicated.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (KSNKu)
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Saw pictures this morning of the new TSA rules for illegals. You just tell TSA you're an illegal and you basically skip all the screening and the now-mandatory having your picture taken.
Why does TSA exist then? "Am illegal, durka durka Mohammed jihad". "Ok, go on through. Do you need a dolley for your bomb?"
Why does TSA exist then? "Am illegal, durka durka Mohammed jihad". "Ok, go on through. Do you need a dolley for your bomb?"
Posted by: Ian S. at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (2ocoG)
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67 9 They’re doing this for a reason and I am still not totally clear on why. Cheap labor? Guaranteed Democratic votes? I can’t figure it out.
Posted by: keena
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I used to think this a lark, but I'm told by a number of people in a position to know that one of the strongest lobbies in Washington is the Chamber of Commerce. Just about every region in the country has an HQ. Cheap labor is definitely a motivation. In addition, the CofC is set up in such a way that tthe main decision making process can be hi-jacked by a small group of executives. So, if you get a true believer in there...he/she has a lot of money to spread around during campaign season.
Posted by: keena
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I used to think this a lark, but I'm told by a number of people in a position to know that one of the strongest lobbies in Washington is the Chamber of Commerce. Just about every region in the country has an HQ. Cheap labor is definitely a motivation. In addition, the CofC is set up in such a way that tthe main decision making process can be hi-jacked by a small group of executives. So, if you get a true believer in there...he/she has a lot of money to spread around during campaign season.
Posted by: Orson at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (dIske)
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Laying down a marker: They'll shave 5 billion off or somesuch as a "compromise" and Johnson will cave. Repbulican'ts always cave. ALWAYS.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (PWI4f)
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In addition to the money laundering, I suspect those in Ukraine with some authority also have some serious blackmail on our congressional assholes.
Thus the constant "save Ukraine" bullshit.
They all deserve to be strung up with fishhooks through their thumbs and flogged with barbed wire.
Thus the constant "save Ukraine" bullshit.
They all deserve to be strung up with fishhooks through their thumbs and flogged with barbed wire.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (Q4IgG)
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It's all a mindfuck and a lie. All of it.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (R4t5M)
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One thing that has made me cynical about Ukrainian refugees in general: Our local churches are helping resettle military-age men. So, to be frank, we're helping draft-dodgers. Yes, I know, the twin 18-year-olds are "too smart to be cannon fodder" and the guy in his mid-40s is a dad and a pastor, and I know there are others. But why should we bail out Ukraine with money and military assistance when its own citizens aren't willing to fight for it?
Posted by: pookysgirl, cynic from birth at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (dtlDP)
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No shit. I’m not pro-Putin or even pro-Russian. I’m pro-American Republic and not some globalist world empire.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (cMXNt)
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👆👏👏👏
With you, ace. Let it (government) be shutdown.
Obama did it and, reportedly, no one died or starved.
With you, ace. Let it (government) be shutdown.
Obama did it and, reportedly, no one died or starved.
Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear. They only have to outrun us - for now at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (GshMh)
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"Let them die. I have pushed back against what I considered a pro-Russian kind of tilt on Ukraine, but now I'm here: Let the Ukrainians die."
Ace, I've been there from the beginning. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to live in a perfect world where countries respected each other's borders, but we clearly don't live in that world. So what do I care if one Eastern European scumbag strongman is stronger than some other Eastern European scumbag strongman? Fuck 'em all. Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Ace, I've been there from the beginning. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to live in a perfect world where countries respected each other's borders, but we clearly don't live in that world. So what do I care if one Eastern European scumbag strongman is stronger than some other Eastern European scumbag strongman? Fuck 'em all. Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 18, 2024 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
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And now he's also killing a bill that would stop the chaos on the southern border?
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The Surrender Now and Avoid the Rush Bill.
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The Surrender Now and Avoid the Rush Bill.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:25 PM (FVME7)
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I thought the administration has indicated they're backing off on Ukraine.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 18, 2024 12:25 PM (kSHhA)
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89 Heh. Before TSA the movie "Airplane" showed sons of the desert with RPGs boarding.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (0EOe9)
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I do not envy Johnson. There is barely a majority.
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (V13WU)
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Let the government shut down.
Let Kyiv go to Putin.
Neither will effect your life in any measurable way.
Let Kyiv go to Putin.
Neither will effect your life in any measurable way.
Posted by: Jay in PA at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (i7Q7S)
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86 I assume they figure on getting as much graft in before calling it fixed and then trying to get the media to stop reporting on the issue.
I think this is a tell for '24. The Dems aren't as convinced as some here that they can pull off the steal again, so they're working with "our side" to get a deal in place before either DeS or Trump is back in charge, and their ability to control events goes away. That's what I'm telling myself anyway.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (CsUN+)
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I'm sure they want to win legitimately. At the minimum, the column of the party that is the consultant class can't let it become a known reality that elections mean nothing. If it does, they lose their goose and its golden eggs.
Winning illegitimately is dangerous, and the inability to tamp down on the anti-establishment spirit of the American people has to be somewhat scary.
Essentially, they have the scorpion on their back.
Doesn't mean that they won't just ballot box stuff in the middle of the night across 8 states this time to get their win, though.
I think this is a tell for '24. The Dems aren't as convinced as some here that they can pull off the steal again, so they're working with "our side" to get a deal in place before either DeS or Trump is back in charge, and their ability to control events goes away. That's what I'm telling myself anyway.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (CsUN+)
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I'm sure they want to win legitimately. At the minimum, the column of the party that is the consultant class can't let it become a known reality that elections mean nothing. If it does, they lose their goose and its golden eggs.
Winning illegitimately is dangerous, and the inability to tamp down on the anti-establishment spirit of the American people has to be somewhat scary.
Essentially, they have the scorpion on their back.
Doesn't mean that they won't just ballot box stuff in the middle of the night across 8 states this time to get their win, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (GBKbO)
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I would like Speaker Johnson (or even the Speaker's Johnson) to say something like;
"Senator McConnell says we can't get a good deal with Trump if he's elected. ...
Posted by: naturalfake at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (nFnyb)
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McConnell is likely spot-on, 100% correct.
The key question to ask is "a good deal for whom?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (z8vUP)
Well, yeah, of course, but-
the point in saying it that way means that it negates the "Trump won't give us a good dead" now being broadcasted.
And it kinda sorta forces them to argue exactly what the Turtle et al mean by "a good deal".
Or at least sets the table to define what they mean by their deal.
I'd debate that all day every day with them before the American people.
"Good deal" is fuzzy enough to let people fill in the blanks with their own hopes. We've seen how that works out with Obama.
"Senator McConnell says we can't get a good deal with Trump if he's elected. ...
Posted by: naturalfake at January 18, 2024 12:15 PM (nFnyb)
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McConnell is likely spot-on, 100% correct.
The key question to ask is "a good deal for whom?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:17 PM (z8vUP)
Well, yeah, of course, but-
the point in saying it that way means that it negates the "Trump won't give us a good dead" now being broadcasted.
And it kinda sorta forces them to argue exactly what the Turtle et al mean by "a good deal".
Or at least sets the table to define what they mean by their deal.
I'd debate that all day every day with them before the American people.
"Good deal" is fuzzy enough to let people fill in the blanks with their own hopes. We've seen how that works out with Obama.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (nFnyb)
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The reason why they went all in on the J6 “insurrection” BS was to let the American people know resistance will ruin you.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (cMXNt)
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If McConnell and his buddy Biden will not protect America, then we absolutely must not spend another dime protecting Ukraine.
Period. That simple.
Well said. That’s where I am. I don’t give a shit about spending any money for any foreign project until and unless the border is shut down.
Period. That simple.
Well said. That’s where I am. I don’t give a shit about spending any money for any foreign project until and unless the border is shut down.
Posted by: Ex GOP at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (pa4TJ)
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Saw pictures this morning of the new TSA rules for illegals. You just tell TSA you're an illegal and you basically skip all the screening and the now-mandatory having your picture taken.
Why does TSA exist then? "Am illegal, durka durka Mohammed jihad". "Ok, go on through. Do you need a dolley for your bomb?"
Posted by: Ian S. at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (2ocoG)
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Just absolutely INSANE!!!!
If you all haven't yet, read Schlichter's new book, The Attack.
It's like our government is making it a "How To" manual.
Why does TSA exist then? "Am illegal, durka durka Mohammed jihad". "Ok, go on through. Do you need a dolley for your bomb?"
Posted by: Ian S. at January 18, 2024 12:23 PM (2ocoG)
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Just absolutely INSANE!!!!
If you all haven't yet, read Schlichter's new book, The Attack.
It's like our government is making it a "How To" manual.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 18, 2024 12:27 PM (W/lyH)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at January 18, 2024 12:27 PM (T4tVD)
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No shit. I’m not pro-Putin or even pro-Russian. I’m pro-American Republic and not some globalist world empire.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (cMXNt)
I'm more anti-communist at this point.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (cMXNt)
I'm more anti-communist at this point.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 18, 2024 12:27 PM (R4t5M)
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91 Laying down a marker: They'll shave 5 billion off or somesuch as a "compromise" and Johnson will cave. Repbulican'ts always cave. ALWAYS.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (PWI4f)
Johnson at least said no, sad no publicly, and said how ridiculous the current plan is.
If we had Kevin, this would be a done deal. So, we got a lot of improvement EVEN IF he folds, and I don't think Mike is.
It shows the WILD importance of having a non-Uniparty member in charge...and to do that, we need to primary more of the Uniparty folks. We have a list now from a few public votes - we should use it, especially in deep red districts...if those folks aren't already retiring (which a lot are), we should help them do so...
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at January 18, 2024 12:24 PM (PWI4f)
Johnson at least said no, sad no publicly, and said how ridiculous the current plan is.
If we had Kevin, this would be a done deal. So, we got a lot of improvement EVEN IF he folds, and I don't think Mike is.
It shows the WILD importance of having a non-Uniparty member in charge...and to do that, we need to primary more of the Uniparty folks. We have a list now from a few public votes - we should use it, especially in deep red districts...if those folks aren't already retiring (which a lot are), we should help them do so...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:27 PM (exHjb)
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I thought the administration has indicated they're backing off on Ukraine.
The administration has at least two obvious factions, and probably more. The hardcore one wants the borders erased and the US military to nuke Tel Aviv.
The administration has at least two obvious factions, and probably more. The hardcore one wants the borders erased and the US military to nuke Tel Aviv.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 18, 2024 12:27 PM (2ocoG)
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100 89 Heh. Before TSA the movie "Airplane" showed sons of the desert with RPGs boarding.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (0EOe9)
IIRC, that was the 'xray' scanner in Airplane! 2. Nudity. It sticks in my head.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (0EOe9)
IIRC, that was the 'xray' scanner in Airplane! 2. Nudity. It sticks in my head.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:28 PM (zZu0s)
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101 I do not envy Johnson. There is barely a majority.
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (V13WU)
This is true. Didn't help that they tossed out a reliable Conservative vote with santos.. yeah he's a POS but they could have let him stay his term
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (V13WU)
This is true. Didn't help that they tossed out a reliable Conservative vote with santos.. yeah he's a POS but they could have let him stay his term
Posted by: It's me donna at January 18, 2024 12:28 PM (n2vyf)
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I assume they figure on getting as much graft in before calling it fixed and then trying to get the media to stop reporting on the issue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking w
Nitpick
just telling the media to stop reporting on the issue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking w
Nitpick
just telling the media to stop reporting on the issue.
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 18, 2024 12:28 PM (CIS44)
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Let them die. I have pushed back against what I considered a pro-Russian kind of tilt on Ukraine, but now I'm here: Let the Ukrainians die.
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Oh dear, I don't much care for your tone. You can't do politics with such harsh language. You have to be willing to Compromise.
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Oh dear, I don't much care for your tone. You can't do politics with such harsh language. You have to be willing to Compromise.
Posted by: Irony at January 18, 2024 12:28 PM (Tez8k)
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Let the Euro Trash take care of Ukraine. You know, those same people over at WEF telling us we must surrender to the globalists, the Climate Cult and the DEIMasters. Take the money you're funneling into that Marxist crap and give it to your best buds.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:28 PM (ZSrej)
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"I want to remind everybody of the importance of Ukraine.”
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But for Ukraine, the Moon would fall from the sky and the oceans would boil!
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But for Ukraine, the Moon would fall from the sky and the oceans would boil!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:28 PM (FVME7)
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The reason why they went all in on the J6 “insurrection” BS was to let the American people know resistance will ruin you.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (cMXNt)
Hasn't hurt Hunter.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (cMXNt)
Hasn't hurt Hunter.
Posted by: BignJames at January 18, 2024 12:28 PM (AwYPR)
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I have pushed back against what I considered a pro-Russian kind of tilt on Ukraine, but now I'm here: Let the Ukrainians die.
At the risk of annoying Ace and having him devote a post to excoriating me...
I believe that even the most "pro-Russian" of the people here merely pointed out that, in this conflict, Russia really isn't the bad guys. We made promises to Russia which we have violated many times over. Our intelligence services interfered in Ukrainian elections to install a "pro-Western" kleptocrat as opposed to a pro-Russian kleptocrat. The Ukrainian government has been killing ethnic Russians for a decade.
Despite all that... what most of us said was that it's not our fight. It's never been our fight. There is absolutely zero benefit to the US to stick our noses in this fight.
Now, after all this time and money... it's not our fight.
At the risk of annoying Ace and having him devote a post to excoriating me...
I believe that even the most "pro-Russian" of the people here merely pointed out that, in this conflict, Russia really isn't the bad guys. We made promises to Russia which we have violated many times over. Our intelligence services interfered in Ukrainian elections to install a "pro-Western" kleptocrat as opposed to a pro-Russian kleptocrat. The Ukrainian government has been killing ethnic Russians for a decade.
Despite all that... what most of us said was that it's not our fight. It's never been our fight. There is absolutely zero benefit to the US to stick our noses in this fight.
Now, after all this time and money... it's not our fight.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 18, 2024 12:29 PM (GYIa4)
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Heh. Remember when Ace got mad at some of us when the question was posed of if you see an American drowning and a foreigner drowning we wouldn't automatically lean to saving the American just because of their nationality?
Posted by: Bete at January 18, 2024 12:29 PM (6nJJ6)
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101 I do not envy Johnson. There is barely a majority.
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (V13WU)
He actually has an absolute minority - it's 300 Uniparty D, and about 100 REAL Rs in the House (with the rest nut Ds)...the Rs just can't out themselves and get re-elected, so that's Johnson's sole power...
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (V13WU)
He actually has an absolute minority - it's 300 Uniparty D, and about 100 REAL Rs in the House (with the rest nut Ds)...the Rs just can't out themselves and get re-elected, so that's Johnson's sole power...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:29 PM (exHjb)
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Years ago, Vicente or some prezdent of ole Mexico was being interviewed by CNN or somebody like that, and he matter of factly claimed that entering the US illegally is not a crime.
This is a common refrain by the border deniers. My suspicion has long been that secret “binding agreements” or some faggy treaty were made long ago, that nobody in government will ever admit to. Only thing that makes sense.
Similar conclusions can be inferred with respect to all the oh-so convenient “Wilderness” and “National Monument” declarations. Sometimes you’ll hear people suggest that the federal government should auction off its landholdings.
What makes you so sure they haven’t already? The world’s largest known oil, gas, timber, - and other valuable rare earth minerals make for dandy collateral. With $100 Trillion of liabilities, they gotta start pawning shit.
This is a common refrain by the border deniers. My suspicion has long been that secret “binding agreements” or some faggy treaty were made long ago, that nobody in government will ever admit to. Only thing that makes sense.
Similar conclusions can be inferred with respect to all the oh-so convenient “Wilderness” and “National Monument” declarations. Sometimes you’ll hear people suggest that the federal government should auction off its landholdings.
What makes you so sure they haven’t already? The world’s largest known oil, gas, timber, - and other valuable rare earth minerals make for dandy collateral. With $100 Trillion of liabilities, they gotta start pawning shit.
Posted by: Common Tater at January 18, 2024 12:29 PM (2bEw1)
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I’m pro-American Republic and not some globalist world empire.
I've seen it referred to as GAE, which is alternately Globalist American Empire or Gay American Empire.
The latter is likely more accurate given Obama's in the power structure.
I've seen it referred to as GAE, which is alternately Globalist American Empire or Gay American Empire.
The latter is likely more accurate given Obama's in the power structure.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 18, 2024 12:29 PM (2ocoG)
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114 I assume they figure on getting as much graft in before calling it fixed and then trying to get the media to stop reporting on the issue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking w
Nitpick
just telling the media to stop reporting on the issue.
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 18, 2024 12:28 PM (CIS44)
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This plan does not include a massive amount of graft, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking w
Nitpick
just telling the media to stop reporting on the issue.
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 18, 2024 12:28 PM (CIS44)
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This plan does not include a massive amount of graft, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
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Johnson at least said no, sad no publicly, and said how ridiculous the current plan is.
If we had Kevin, this would be a done deal. So, we got a lot of improvement EVEN IF he folds, and I don't think Mike is.
Correct.
If we had Kevin, this would be a done deal. So, we got a lot of improvement EVEN IF he folds, and I don't think Mike is.
Correct.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:29 PM (CsUN+)
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So far, whenever a patriotic American says "We need to secure the US border before we send billions more to Ukraine," a globalist mediocrity sniffs, "We're America, we can do two things at once." Well it's time to respond with: "Prove it." Because they haven't done anything to show they are willing to do it. And consider me out on any Republican unwilling to take a real stand.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at January 18, 2024 12:30 PM (4+3qm)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:30 PM (wtvvX)
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118 Has Hunter resisted anything but rehab?
Posted by: Bete at January 18, 2024 12:30 PM (6nJJ6)
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I think this is a tell for '24. The Dems aren't as convinced as some here that they can pull off the steal again, so they're working with "our side" to get a deal in place before either DeS or Trump is back in charge, and their ability to control events goes away. That's what I'm telling myself anyway.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Ha. I'd forgotten about how all the same True Conservatives That Are On Our Side (R)s who had investigated Trump for two years even though they had clearances to allow them to know it was all fake from the get-go and then worked against him and thwarted him/us at every opportunity after giving the (D)s the House in 2020 immediately hamstrung the 2022 (R) election winners taking the House.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Ha. I'd forgotten about how all the same True Conservatives That Are On Our Side (R)s who had investigated Trump for two years even though they had clearances to allow them to know it was all fake from the get-go and then worked against him and thwarted him/us at every opportunity after giving the (D)s the House in 2020 immediately hamstrung the 2022 (R) election winners taking the House.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:30 PM (+RC1q)
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The other issue is they are spending money which we don't actually have. We have to BORROW the money to give to them. The US takes in $5trillion and spends $7trillion, year after year after year. Never have the revenues been this great, and it's still not enough.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 18, 2024 12:30 PM (MeG8a)
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at January 18, 2024 12:30 PM (+6273)
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Saw pictures this morning of the new TSA rules for illegals. You just tell TSA you're an illegal and you basically skip all the screening and the now-mandatory having your picture taken.
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if we had real investigative journalism in this country , this would have been quite the headline grabbing, ratings bonanza for some 20/20 or 60 minutes, or whatever program
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if we had real investigative journalism in this country , this would have been quite the headline grabbing, ratings bonanza for some 20/20 or 60 minutes, or whatever program
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (V13WU)
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128 118 Has Hunter resisted anything but rehab?
Posted by: Bete at January 18, 2024 12:30 PM (6nJJ6)
Child support
Posted by: Bete at January 18, 2024 12:30 PM (6nJJ6)
Child support
Posted by: It's me donna at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (n2vyf)
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Johnson at least said no, sad no publicly, and said how ridiculous the current plan is.
If we had Kevin, this would be a done deal. So, we got a lot of improvement EVEN IF he folds, and I don't think Mike is. ...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:27 PM (exHjb)
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He will.
The Senate sent over a bill that is among the worst they *could* have sent. This was done on purpose. Johnson will reject it. The Senate will bitch. The Press will caterwaul for a while.
In a few weeks, the Senate will send over a new bill. The new bill will be nearly as bad, but provide a few "concessions" that are still worse than status quo but not as bad as in the rejected deal. Johnson then grudgingly assents and it moves forward. Both sides claim they won, both sides restate their bone-deep commitment to American security and everything gets worse.
This is how the show goes. American government is like a Hollywood movie: it just recycles the same story over and over and over again.
If we had Kevin, this would be a done deal. So, we got a lot of improvement EVEN IF he folds, and I don't think Mike is. ...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:27 PM (exHjb)
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He will.
The Senate sent over a bill that is among the worst they *could* have sent. This was done on purpose. Johnson will reject it. The Senate will bitch. The Press will caterwaul for a while.
In a few weeks, the Senate will send over a new bill. The new bill will be nearly as bad, but provide a few "concessions" that are still worse than status quo but not as bad as in the rejected deal. Johnson then grudgingly assents and it moves forward. Both sides claim they won, both sides restate their bone-deep commitment to American security and everything gets worse.
This is how the show goes. American government is like a Hollywood movie: it just recycles the same story over and over and over again.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (z8vUP)
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House in 2018, sorry. Point stands.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (+RC1q)
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Everyone crossing the border illegally should be immediately turned back except for hot women and their children under 12.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (ogTiX)
137
you can't say you want US border secured, it's like saying "all lives matter" !
Posted by: runner at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (V13WU)
138
The senate is looking very likely to have a Republican majority in 2024. We need to make sure that any McConnell lackeys are not part of that group. Anyone the NRSC supports should be shunned.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (ZSrej)
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Ace’s new position has been my position on Ukraine from the beginning. If the Biden junta has taken the same the war would have ended in months with the same outcome but tens of thousands less deaths and hundreds of billions less dollars burned/stolen.
Posted by: Jukin at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (17s+e)
140
When Morning Joe and McConnell agree you know you are getting screwed.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (v0R5T)
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Our border first. Then we negotiate the rest. After Trump is in office.
Our border first. Then we negotiate the rest. After Trump is in office.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (nIvob)
142
About Johnson, I saw him on Laura Ingram last night. He certainly does not strike one as the Profile in Courage type. Therefore I expect the worst.
Posted by: Ex GOP at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (pa4TJ)
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The intentional vagueness of the Democrats/GOPe is one reason that I like Vivek for Veep.
He goes clearly and cleanly dagger-straight to the heart of these matters.
His clean rhetoric is the worst thing that could happen to the Dims in debates and on the campaign trail.
Define, shine the light, and expose these a-holes as they are to the American people.
(For all you DeSantis people out there, he had the potential to be a good Veep, for much the same reason but totally mishandled it. Maybe we'll see him in 2028 or 2032.)
He goes clearly and cleanly dagger-straight to the heart of these matters.
His clean rhetoric is the worst thing that could happen to the Dims in debates and on the campaign trail.
Define, shine the light, and expose these a-holes as they are to the American people.
(For all you DeSantis people out there, he had the potential to be a good Veep, for much the same reason but totally mishandled it. Maybe we'll see him in 2028 or 2032.)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (nFnyb)
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134 This is how the show goes. American government is like a Hollywood movie: it just recycles the same story over and over and over again.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (z8vUP)
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I wouldn't mind if we got some more Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, to be honest.
Perhaps even with Mel Gibson's revised ending:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8imsr2WmEg
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (z8vUP)
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I wouldn't mind if we got some more Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, to be honest.
Perhaps even with Mel Gibson's revised ending:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8imsr2WmEg
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (GBKbO)
145
Speaking of Ukraine, can Lloyd Austin pee on his own yet?
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (v0R5T)
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138 The senate is looking very likely to have a Republican majority in 2024. We need to make sure that any McConnell lackeys are not part of that group. Anyone the NRSC supports should be shunned.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (ZSrej)
1) Agree.
2) Good luck with that.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (ZSrej)
1) Agree.
2) Good luck with that.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (wtvvX)
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I’ll admit that I’m an economic illiterate but solely on the question of money for Ukraine or any government spending for that matter….. why do we even care? I mean it’s all funny money, Monopoly money at this point. It just roles off a printing press somewhere. I mean why do we even pay taxes anymore? The government doesn’t need our money as long as it can print more….. you’d think it wouldn’t work after awhile but all continues on for the last 50+ years since Nixon took us off the gold standard
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (1jdMT)
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Missed the last thread,
moon_over_vermont, Rest in Piece.
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of His hand.
moon_over_vermont, Rest in Piece.
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of His hand.
Posted by: Inogame at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (53oGX)
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Anyone the NRSC supports should be shunned.
Shunning is weak sauce. We need stonings and hangings from the yardarm.
Shunning is weak sauce. We need stonings and hangings from the yardarm.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (CsUN+)
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138 The senate is looking very likely to have a Republican majority in 2024. We need to make sure that any McConnell lackeys are not part of that group. Anyone the NRSC supports should be shunned.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (ZSrej)
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I can't wait until we have to support the McConnell lackeys because Democrats will be worse. Should be...six months?
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (ZSrej)
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I can't wait until we have to support the McConnell lackeys because Democrats will be worse. Should be...six months?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (GBKbO)
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the movie "Airplane"
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This is surely from that movie. The CEO of United crawls on his belly like a reptile.
http://tinyurl.com/3baxzvf3
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This is surely from that movie. The CEO of United crawls on his belly like a reptile.
http://tinyurl.com/3baxzvf3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (FVME7)
152
He will.
The Senate sent over a bill that is among the worst they *could* have sent. This was done on purpose. Johnson will reject it. The Senate will bitch. The Press will caterwaul for a while.
In a few weeks, the Senate will send over a new bill. The new bill will be nearly as bad, but provide a few "concessions" that are still worse than status quo but not as bad as in the rejected deal. Johnson then grudgingly assents and it moves forward. Both sides claim they won, both sides restate their bone-deep commitment to American security and everything gets worse.
This is how the show goes. American government is like a Hollywood movie: it just recycles the same story over and over and over again.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (z8vUP)
Not sure they'll have the time pre-elections to get it done, b/c they don't do anything controversial in the 6 months for House elections - they wait til Nov 15 for that...so it's done before May 1, or it's not done for awhile...and they still have to deal with the budget...and all those bills...
The Senate sent over a bill that is among the worst they *could* have sent. This was done on purpose. Johnson will reject it. The Senate will bitch. The Press will caterwaul for a while.
In a few weeks, the Senate will send over a new bill. The new bill will be nearly as bad, but provide a few "concessions" that are still worse than status quo but not as bad as in the rejected deal. Johnson then grudgingly assents and it moves forward. Both sides claim they won, both sides restate their bone-deep commitment to American security and everything gets worse.
This is how the show goes. American government is like a Hollywood movie: it just recycles the same story over and over and over again.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (z8vUP)
Not sure they'll have the time pre-elections to get it done, b/c they don't do anything controversial in the 6 months for House elections - they wait til Nov 15 for that...so it's done before May 1, or it's not done for awhile...and they still have to deal with the budget...and all those bills...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (exHjb)
153
As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (z8vUP)
Posted by: Inogame at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (53oGX)
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for = before (damn brain speed)...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (exHjb)
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Remember Tom Daschle? We all sure loved Thune when he beat that idiot….. little did we know they’re almost the same guy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
That is the Uniparty and they compose of at least 60-70 senators and probably 150-200 members at a minimum in the House.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:21 PM (gvoQe)
Bring on the state nullifications of DC edicts. Fuck the fed.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
That is the Uniparty and they compose of at least 60-70 senators and probably 150-200 members at a minimum in the House.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:21 PM (gvoQe)
Bring on the state nullifications of DC edicts. Fuck the fed.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (BdMk6)
157
Everyone crossing the border illegally should be immediately turned back except for hot women Mexican weather girls and their children under 12.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (ogTiX)
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (ogTiX)
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (v0R5T)
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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said his country would no longer pursue reconciliation with South Korea and called for rewriting the North’s constitution to eliminate the idea of shared statehood between the war-divided countries, state media said Tuesday.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said his country would no longer pursue reconciliation with South Korea and called for rewriting the North’s constitution to eliminate the idea of shared statehood between the war-divided countries, state media said Tuesday.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (63Dwl)
159
Ukraine, like Hamas, could always surrender if things are so bad.
Posted by: Wally at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (hqVaF)
160
if McCarthy was still Speaker, he would be greasing the wheels for very quick passage of this bill.
I maintain my view that Matt Goetz is the single most effective and consequential Republican Congressman of the last 30 years. He fought, and won, when everyone told him fighting was pointless and stupid. He's the only reason we even have any chance of stopping this bill.
I maintain my view that Matt Goetz is the single most effective and consequential Republican Congressman of the last 30 years. He fought, and won, when everyone told him fighting was pointless and stupid. He's the only reason we even have any chance of stopping this bill.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (i9ffA)
161
Prayers for Moon over Vermont.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (R4t5M)
162
141
Our border first. Then we negotiate the rest. After Trump is in office.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (nIvob)
No, I am fine with:
1) Secure the Border
2) Fuck Ukraine unless someone can give a compelling reason beyond sunk cost fallacy. That is where we are at now. The rationale was never anything solid beyond wishcasting and 'protecting graft.'
Our border first. Then we negotiate the rest. After Trump is in office.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (nIvob)
No, I am fine with:
1) Secure the Border
2) Fuck Ukraine unless someone can give a compelling reason beyond sunk cost fallacy. That is where we are at now. The rationale was never anything solid beyond wishcasting and 'protecting graft.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (zZu0s)
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This plan does not include a massive amount of graft, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking
well ya, as you said theyll get their craft then tell the media to shove it.
This plan does not include a massive amount of graft, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking
well ya, as you said theyll get their craft then tell the media to shove it.
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 18, 2024 12:35 PM (CIS44)
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151 the movie "Airplane"
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This is surely from that movie. The CEO of United crawls on his belly like a reptile.
http://tinyurl.com/3baxzvf3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (FVME7)
There's a drag queen in the road,
His brain is squirming like a toad...
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This is surely from that movie. The CEO of United crawls on his belly like a reptile.
http://tinyurl.com/3baxzvf3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (FVME7)
There's a drag queen in the road,
His brain is squirming like a toad...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:35 PM (wtvvX)
165
As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......
I would invade that.
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......
I would invade that.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:35 PM (v0R5T)
166
We do need to update the Roll of Honor. Captain Hate and Moon now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:35 PM (zZu0s)
167
Look at the National polling on illegal immigration. It is becoming the number one issue with voters. You don't even need a big set of balls to take a hard line on this. You need to have a brain that realizes the citizens whom you are suppose to represent oppose illegal immigration and want these people out of the county.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (ZSrej)
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160 if McCarthy was still Speaker, he would be greasing the wheels for very quick passage of this bill.
I maintain my view that Matt Goetz is the single most effective and consequential Republican Congressman of the last 30 years. He fought, and won, when everyone told him fighting was pointless and stupid. He's the only reason we even have any chance of stopping this bill.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (i9ffA)
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But he didn't have a plan and he cost Republicans any chance in 2024.
I maintain my view that Matt Goetz is the single most effective and consequential Republican Congressman of the last 30 years. He fought, and won, when everyone told him fighting was pointless and stupid. He's the only reason we even have any chance of stopping this bill.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (i9ffA)
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But he didn't have a plan and he cost Republicans any chance in 2024.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (GBKbO)
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As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (z8vUP)
I think she's more buxom than busty
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (z8vUP)
I think she's more buxom than busty
Posted by: Doof at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (eNASR)
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President Biden and congressional leaders in both parties are ramping up pressure on Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to accept an expected deal on Ukraine funding and border security, warning national security is at risk without action by Congress.
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Has anyone ever explained this last part?
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Has anyone ever explained this last part?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (+RC1q)
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Shorter GOPe : "Accept OUR socialism without gulags, or we'll let the Democrats incorporate it WITH gulags."
Posted by: XTC at January 18, 2024 12:37 PM (6Uni8)
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153 As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (z8vUP)
Me rikey.
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (z8vUP)
Me rikey.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:37 PM (wtvvX)
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160 if McCarthy was still Speaker, he would be greasing the wheels for very quick passage of this bill.
I maintain my view that Matt Goetz is the single most effective and consequential Republican Congressman of the last 30 years. He fought, and won, when everyone told him fighting was pointless and stupid. He's the only reason we even have any chance of stopping this bill.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (i9ffA)
I agree - he had chutzpah and strategy...b/c he managed to take out the king AND get Johnson into the top spot, and not just a Kevin wannabe...he can no longer be underestimated for political instincts and strategy...
I maintain my view that Matt Goetz is the single most effective and consequential Republican Congressman of the last 30 years. He fought, and won, when everyone told him fighting was pointless and stupid. He's the only reason we even have any chance of stopping this bill.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (i9ffA)
I agree - he had chutzpah and strategy...b/c he managed to take out the king AND get Johnson into the top spot, and not just a Kevin wannabe...he can no longer be underestimated for political instincts and strategy...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:37 PM (exHjb)
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meaning Ukraine, of course.
Everyone knows we've been letting tens of thousands of terrorists over our Mexican border for the last couple of years.
Everyone knows we've been letting tens of thousands of terrorists over our Mexican border for the last couple of years.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:37 PM (+RC1q)
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>>As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Rong Time.
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Rong Time.
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2024 12:38 PM (RVloE)
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175 >>As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Rong Time.
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2024 12:38 PM (RVloE)
Cue 2 Live Crew...
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Rong Time.
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2024 12:38 PM (RVloE)
Cue 2 Live Crew...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:38 PM (wtvvX)
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@JoeNBC: "If Speaker Johnson had his way, Vladimir Putin would already [have taken] Kyiv because he's voted against all funding to defend Ukraine against Russian aggression -- And now he's also killing a bill that would stop the chaos on the southern border? You gotta ask why."
the second half is a most impressive mix of the purest doubletalk, gibbberish and gobbledygook you might only see once every the year
the second half is a most impressive mix of the purest doubletalk, gibbberish and gobbledygook you might only see once every the year
Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (B1FKF)
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165 As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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I would invade that.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:35 PM (v0R5T)
It is strange to try to analyze the meatbrain. There are some ladies of non-white origin (be it black, asian- whatever) that turn me on. There does not appear to be any rhyme or reason to it though. It is not simple a matter of slim+big boobs+round face=hot or anything.
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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I would invade that.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:35 PM (v0R5T)
It is strange to try to analyze the meatbrain. There are some ladies of non-white origin (be it black, asian- whatever) that turn me on. There does not appear to be any rhyme or reason to it though. It is not simple a matter of slim+big boobs+round face=hot or anything.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (zZu0s)
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Wasn't it Nikki Haley that said "Your sons and daughters are going to go fight and die for Ukraine if we don't continue laundering hundreds of billions of dollars" or something to that effect?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (+RC1q)
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The spice must flow.
Posted by: Guild Navigator Mitch McConnell at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (v0R5T)
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PS - We should still be blowing up ALL R Senator phones today. Right now, the full court press should be on Senators, to include D senators in swing states and border states, to stop this at their level, and never stick Johnson in the rough spot...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (exHjb)
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177 @JoeNBC: "If Speaker Johnson had his way, Vladimir Putin would already [have taken] Kyiv because he's voted against all funding to defend Ukraine against Russian aggression -- And now he's also killing a bill that would stop the chaos on the southern border? You gotta ask why."
the second half is a most impressive mix of the purest doubletalk, gibbberish and gobbledygook you might only see once every the year
Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (B1FKF)
I thought Ukraine was about finished with the good sacking of Moscow and was ready to just set the place on fire and then go home. Stephen Green has been telling me that for the last decade it feels like.
the second half is a most impressive mix of the purest doubletalk, gibbberish and gobbledygook you might only see once every the year
Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (B1FKF)
I thought Ukraine was about finished with the good sacking of Moscow and was ready to just set the place on fire and then go home. Stephen Green has been telling me that for the last decade it feels like.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (zZu0s)
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This is how the show goes. American government is like a Hollywood movie: it just recycles the same story over and over and over again.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (z8vUP)
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I literally cannot remember the last time that there was floor debate on anything.
Old C-SPAN junkies hardest hit ...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:31 PM (z8vUP)
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I literally cannot remember the last time that there was floor debate on anything.
Old C-SPAN junkies hardest hit ...
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (TgVp6)
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There seems to be an unusual level of pushback on the senate. McConnell polls lower than anyone in Washington on either side. That's translating into people looking at their own senators and not giving them the pass they usually do. Some realize the real problem in Washington is the senate and specifically McConnell's acolytes. It is even showing in some of the polling. People have had it with Democrats and especially these phony Republicans.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (ZSrej)
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As to the question of McConnell and Kentucky upthread, look no further than the sewer known as "Louisville." A town that has been under demoncrat occupation since 1968, there are just enough of "us" in the city along with the rest of the state to keep the demons from controlling the entire territory, while also getting and keeping snakes like McConnell elected.
Some of you may recall that both Trump and McConnell took the state with around 60%. The alternative to McCon was a commie (Amy McGrath) in disguise who attempted to use her status as a USMC vet to buffalo the people into voting for a 100% hard core leftist. Fortunately as it were, it didn't work.
As for Beshear, he is a buffoon who can be controlled by the Republican state legislatures super majority, similar to North Carolina. That he now thinks he has a "mandate" and can run for national office is amazing and testament to what a fool he truly is.
Some of you may recall that both Trump and McConnell took the state with around 60%. The alternative to McCon was a commie (Amy McGrath) in disguise who attempted to use her status as a USMC vet to buffalo the people into voting for a 100% hard core leftist. Fortunately as it were, it didn't work.
As for Beshear, he is a buffoon who can be controlled by the Republican state legislatures super majority, similar to North Carolina. That he now thinks he has a "mandate" and can run for national office is amazing and testament to what a fool he truly is.
Posted by: Derby City Refugee at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (cmBdF)
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Really really good five minute TuCa video on this very subject:
http://tinyurl.com/mu8bs3sk
http://tinyurl.com/mu8bs3sk
Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (MvF+J)
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And Mitch will run for re-election and win his primary by 50 points again because KY Republicans genuinely like him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
This place is strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
This place is strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Posted by: screaming in digital at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (i671v)
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179 Wasn't it Nikki Haley that said "Your sons and daughters are going to go fight and die for Ukraine if we don't continue laundering hundreds of billions of dollars" or something to that effect?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (+RC1q)
Wasn't that Milley? Or Austin?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (+RC1q)
Wasn't that Milley? Or Austin?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (zZu0s)
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Who are these people who care so deeply for Ukraine? Attention whore actors and politicians. And most of those don't know where it is on a map.
Normal people don't give a shit.
So what if Russia protects its borders from NATO?
Good for them.
Normal people don't give a shit.
So what if Russia protects its borders from NATO?
Good for them.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (JeYYB)
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Normally I don't even see the asian ladies...but, every once and a while I spot one and I can't look away.
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (RVloE)
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It is strange to try to analyze the meatbrain. There are some ladies of non-white origin (be it black, asian- whatever) that turn me on. There does not appear to be any rhyme or reason to it though. It is not simple a matter of slim+big boobs+round face=hot or anything.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (zZu0s)
Same. But includes Caucasians. There are only a few redheads I find attractive, but I find those VERY attractive.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (zZu0s)
Same. But includes Caucasians. There are only a few redheads I find attractive, but I find those VERY attractive.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (wtvvX)
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I think she's more buxom than busty --Doof
A nice distinction, and we would profit mightily by having a day-long detailed discussion of the fine points.
Fake puffy lips, WNB.
A nice distinction, and we would profit mightily by having a day-long detailed discussion of the fine points.
Fake puffy lips, WNB.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (zdLoL)
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Everyone knows we've been letting tens of thousands of terrorists over our Mexican border for the last couple of years.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:37 PM
When shit goes really bad, as it is sure to, the Dems own it lock, stock, and barrel. To sign onto any 'plan' then means we're accepting responsibility. Fvck that. Until nobody crosses that border until they have had a data enema of personal info, no way.
Everyone knows we've been letting tens of thousands of terrorists over our Mexican border for the last couple of years.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:37 PM
When shit goes really bad, as it is sure to, the Dems own it lock, stock, and barrel. To sign onto any 'plan' then means we're accepting responsibility. Fvck that. Until nobody crosses that border until they have had a data enema of personal info, no way.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (nIvob)
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@JoeNBC: "If Speaker Johnson had his way, Vladimir Putin would already [have taken] Kyiv because he's voted against all funding to defend Ukraine against Russian aggression -- And now he's also killing a bill that would stop the chaos on the southern border? You gotta ask why."
the second half is a most impressive mix of the purest doubletalk, gibbberish and gobbledygook you might only see once every the year
Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (B1FKF)
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Yeah, that is approaching perfection.
the second half is a most impressive mix of the purest doubletalk, gibbberish and gobbledygook you might only see once every the year
Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (B1FKF)
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Yeah, that is approaching perfection.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (z8vUP)
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I literally cannot remember the last time that there was floor debate on anything.
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Make the Actual Mr. Smith Goes To Washington Filibuster Great Again!
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Make the Actual Mr. Smith Goes To Washington Filibuster Great Again!
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (TgVp6)
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Her left boob is chilly but the right one is not?
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (v0R5T)
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It is strange to try to analyze the meatbrain. There are some ladies of non-white origin (be it black, asian- whatever) that turn me on. There does not appear to be any rhyme or reason to it though. It is not simple a matter of slim+big boobs+round face=hot or anything.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
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Same here. If it were a choice between this young lady, who is certainly attractive, and the fit, curly haired pierced blonde lady with a slightly mannish face from last week, I would say the blonde was more attractive.
God bless America that folks have different tastes and we're not all chasing the same people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
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Same here. If it were a choice between this young lady, who is certainly attractive, and the fit, curly haired pierced blonde lady with a slightly mannish face from last week, I would say the blonde was more attractive.
God bless America that folks have different tastes and we're not all chasing the same people.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (+RC1q)
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We live in an oligarchy. The rest is polite fiction.
Posted by: mr tmz at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (rJ48h)
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As for Beshear, he is a buffoon who can be controlled by the Republican state legislatures super majority, similar to North Carolina. That he now thinks he has a "mandate" and can run for national office is amazing and testament to what a fool he truly is.
Posted by: Derby City Refugee at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (cmBdF)
How is that battery plant Beshear was crowing about in all the ads out that way coming along?
Posted by: Derby City Refugee at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (cmBdF)
How is that battery plant Beshear was crowing about in all the ads out that way coming along?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (zZu0s)
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“you’d think it wouldn’t work after awhile but all continues on”
It works just fine, for a while. Until it doesn’t.
That’s what all the maneuvering is about. That’s why no politician has mentioned balance of trade flows or deficits for many years. That’s why it seems like entirely depraved degenerates have embedded themselves like ticks in the body politic.
Because they have. When the music stops, it gets interesting. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. When this MFer goes it will be Biblical, like nothing ever seen.
It works just fine, for a while. Until it doesn’t.
That’s what all the maneuvering is about. That’s why no politician has mentioned balance of trade flows or deficits for many years. That’s why it seems like entirely depraved degenerates have embedded themselves like ticks in the body politic.
Because they have. When the music stops, it gets interesting. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. When this MFer goes it will be Biblical, like nothing ever seen.
Posted by: Common Tater at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (2bEw1)
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I literally cannot remember the last time that there was floor debate on anything.
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There would need to be disagreement.
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There would need to be disagreement.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (+RC1q)
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Doesn't McConnell control a large source of Republican campaign cash?
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (ogTiX)
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Wasn't it Nikki Haley that said "Your sons and daughters are going to go fight and die for Ukraine
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Look, I say a lot of stupid things. But I'm polite and willing to compromise. And compromise is always the right thing g to do.Sure I might have compromised my self in the ba k seat of that car with will folkes, but you don't want to upset a colleague.
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Look, I say a lot of stupid things. But I'm polite and willing to compromise. And compromise is always the right thing g to do.Sure I might have compromised my self in the ba k seat of that car with will folkes, but you don't want to upset a colleague.
Posted by: Nikki. It's not a stripper name at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (Tez8k)
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (v0R5T)
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If you are not able and willing to walk away from the table, you get bent over the table. But a lot of marks place great value in just being at the table. I've seen no evidence that the GOP is willing.
Posted by: so ho long on lube at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (L81HX)
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2) Fuck Ukraine unless someone can give a compelling reason beyond sunk cost fallacy. That is where we are at now. The rationale was never anything solid beyond wishcasting and 'protecting graft.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (zZu0s)
Putin will get all the data and funding information about the bioweapons labs that the US has been operating there.
Imagine what he would do if he could get his hands on those bioweapon labs!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (zZu0s)
Putin will get all the data and funding information about the bioweapons labs that the US has been operating there.
Imagine what he would do if he could get his hands on those bioweapon labs!
Posted by: Kindltot at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (D7oie)
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Kentucky re-elected a Democrat governor who has been actively working against the people. I guess they like the abuse.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (ZSrej)
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145 Speaking of Ukraine, can Lloyd Austin pee on his own yet?
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (v0R5T)
Yep. Pisses on everyone - just as before the surgery.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:32 PM (v0R5T)
Yep. Pisses on everyone - just as before the surgery.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (N39Ws)
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The UniParty see this bill as their last best chance to affect immigration for low priced workers, before Trump cuts it off.
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (RHGPo)
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188 *South Carolina has entered the chat*
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (i671v)
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SC is less strange.
Graham regularly gets semi-competent primary challengers that manage to get within 20 points. He still wins, but it's nothing compared to Mitch winning by 76 points in 2022. 76 points in his primary. That's...huge.
Also, on the first general election ballot Tim Scott was also Graham's regular election. Graham got about a hundred thousand fewer votes than Scott. Graham's support is much softer than McConnell's. Though, again, I don't think Graham has too much to worry about.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 18, 2024 12:40 PM (i671v)
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SC is less strange.
Graham regularly gets semi-competent primary challengers that manage to get within 20 points. He still wins, but it's nothing compared to Mitch winning by 76 points in 2022. 76 points in his primary. That's...huge.
Also, on the first general election ballot Tim Scott was also Graham's regular election. Graham got about a hundred thousand fewer votes than Scott. Graham's support is much softer than McConnell's. Though, again, I don't think Graham has too much to worry about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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73 Once you realize that the FEDGov is run like the Mob ran the Tiki Bar in Goodfellas, all will be illuminated.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (rc3Z7)
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"F*** you. Pay me."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 18, 2024 12:21 PM (7fElN)
Does that make Ace, funny... like a clown?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 18, 2024 12:19 PM (rc3Z7)
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"F*** you. Pay me."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 18, 2024 12:21 PM (7fElN)
Does that make Ace, funny... like a clown?
Posted by: Inogame at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (53oGX)
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Same. But includes Caucasians. There are only a few redheads I find attractive, but I find those VERY attractive.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (wtvvX)
Ok, I'll agree that the same thing can be true of Caucasians- but Caucasians hew closer to a formula I can define.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (wtvvX)
Ok, I'll agree that the same thing can be true of Caucasians- but Caucasians hew closer to a formula I can define.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2024 12:44 PM (RVloE)
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And most of those don't know where it is on a map.
I confess that my knowledge of Ukraine's location owed entirely to Risk and I was a bit surprised when I look at an actual map and saw where it was.
I confess that my knowledge of Ukraine's location owed entirely to Risk and I was a bit surprised when I look at an actual map and saw where it was.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 18, 2024 12:44 PM (GYIa4)
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As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I'd be willing to spot for her.
.......
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I'd be willing to spot for her.
.......
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 18, 2024 12:44 PM (kSHhA)
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America first, bitches.
Ukes second.
Ukes second.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:44 PM (xcxpd)
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Eh, it was the 2020 primary, not the 2022. Still.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:44 PM (GBKbO)
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203 Doesn't McConnell control a large source of Republican campaign cash?
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (ogTiX)
Yep and when he wields it, he isn't afraid to tank winnable seats for the Republicans. See NH with General Bolduc.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (ogTiX)
Yep and when he wields it, he isn't afraid to tank winnable seats for the Republicans. See NH with General Bolduc.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (N39Ws)
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When the music stops, it gets interesting. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. When this MFer goes it will be Biblical, like nothing ever seen.
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Gonna make book of revelation seem like a frat party.
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Gonna make book of revelation seem like a frat party.
Posted by: It'll get worse before it gets better at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (Tez8k)
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210 The UniParty see this bill as their last best chance to affect immigration for low priced workers, before Trump cuts it off.
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (RHGPo)
And they can have the media say "it's already been dealt with in the 2024 law, so we don't need to cover it, and we can keep harping on Trump/DeS doing what's already been done"...
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (RHGPo)
And they can have the media say "it's already been dealt with in the 2024 law, so we don't need to cover it, and we can keep harping on Trump/DeS doing what's already been done"...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (eYF7X)
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I think she's more buxom than busty --Doof
A nice distinction, and we would profit mightily by having a day-long detailed discussion of the fine points.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (zdLoL)
Fantastic idea!!
A nice distinction, and we would profit mightily by having a day-long detailed discussion of the fine points.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (zdLoL)
Fantastic idea!!
Posted by: Doof at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (eNASR)
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213 Same. But includes Caucasians. There are only a few redheads I find attractive, but I find those VERY attractive.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (wtvvX)
Ok, I'll agree that the same thing can be true of Caucasians- but Caucasians hew closer to a formula I can define.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (zZu0s)
Oh, I meant just for me personally, not necessarily for everybody...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (wtvvX)
Ok, I'll agree that the same thing can be true of Caucasians- but Caucasians hew closer to a formula I can define.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (zZu0s)
Oh, I meant just for me personally, not necessarily for everybody...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (wtvvX)
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>>Doesn't McConnell control a large source of Republican campaign cash?
Yes. And he spends it to benefit the Uni-Party. Not you.
Yes. And he spends it to benefit the Uni-Party. Not you.
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (RVloE)
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My security is more important than theirs. Period. If McConnell is going to refuse to provide for my security for the 1000th time, then let all the Ukrainians die.
He will either accept that Americans are more important than his foreign funders, or his foreign funders can all fucking die.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
^^^^THIS^^^^
Times the heat of a thousand suns.
He will either accept that Americans are more important than his foreign funders, or his foreign funders can all fucking die.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
^^^^THIS^^^^
Times the heat of a thousand suns.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (3CCua)
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I support MASSIVE aid to Ukraine.
HOWEVER, it's a good political move to tie that aid to US border security. If it's important to them Dems to help Ukraine - then THEY should make a deal.
Let them scream.
HOWEVER, it's a good political move to tie that aid to US border security. If it's important to them Dems to help Ukraine - then THEY should make a deal.
Let them scream.
Posted by: comradearthur at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (bUnPj)
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Wasn't it Nikki Haley that said "Your sons and daughters are going to go fight and die for Ukraine
No. That was Lloyd Austin. Note that not any his kids or grandkids will be doing that. Just us assholes.
No. That was Lloyd Austin. Note that not any his kids or grandkids will be doing that. Just us assholes.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (R4t5M)
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"He will either accept that Americans are more important than his foreign funders, or his foreign funders can all fucking die."
Art Of The Deal right there!
Art Of The Deal right there!
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (5C4od)
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219 203 Doesn't McConnell control a large source of Republican campaign cash?
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (ogTiX)
Yep and when he wields it, he isn't afraid to tank winnable seats for the Republicans. See NH with General Bolduc.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (N39Ws)
Thankfully, I think Johnson will have the House money, so it should be more "fair" for real R candidates in the House...
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (ogTiX)
Yep and when he wields it, he isn't afraid to tank winnable seats for the Republicans. See NH with General Bolduc.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (N39Ws)
Thankfully, I think Johnson will have the House money, so it should be more "fair" for real R candidates in the House...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (exHjb)
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219 203 Doesn't McConnell control a large source of Republican campaign cash?
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (ogTiX)
Yep and when he wields it, he isn't afraid to tank winnable seats for the Republicans. See NH with General Bolduc.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (N39Ws)
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And McCarthy tried to do the same thing with the House, but McCarthy was Speaker, not Majority Leader. It was a bad plan that didn't work.
McConnell, though, just needs support of a majority of Republicans to keep his grip on power, and that vote is always behind closed doors. If I remember the grumbling around the 2023 vote, there were efforts to make the final ballot unanimous for McConnell but the opposition refused.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (ogTiX)
Yep and when he wields it, he isn't afraid to tank winnable seats for the Republicans. See NH with General Bolduc.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (N39Ws)
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And McCarthy tried to do the same thing with the House, but McCarthy was Speaker, not Majority Leader. It was a bad plan that didn't work.
McConnell, though, just needs support of a majority of Republicans to keep his grip on power, and that vote is always behind closed doors. If I remember the grumbling around the 2023 vote, there were efforts to make the final ballot unanimous for McConnell but the opposition refused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (GBKbO)
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i'd like to hear Trump take a position on this.
DeSantis too.
I want to hear from them. And I don't want any pussyfooting with the open borders corporate caucus.
DeSantis too.
I want to hear from them. And I don't want any pussyfooting with the open borders corporate caucus.
Posted by: ace at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
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223 I think she's more buxom than busty --Doof
A nice distinction, and we would profit mightily by having a day-long detailed discussion of the fine points.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (zdLoL)
Fantastic idea!!
Posted by: Doof at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (eNASR)
SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR?
A nice distinction, and we would profit mightily by having a day-long detailed discussion of the fine points.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (zdLoL)
Fantastic idea!!
Posted by: Doof at January 18, 2024 12:45 PM (eNASR)
SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (wtvvX)
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Kentucky re-elected a Democrat governor who has been actively working against the people. I guess they like the abuse.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (ZSrej)
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State song ideas for Kentucky:
The Offspring - Self-Esteem
Now I know I'm being used
That's okay because I like the abuse
Eminem - Love the Way Your Lie
Just gonna stand there and watch me burn
Well, that's alright because I like the way it hurts
Just gonna stand there and hear me cry
Well, that's alright because I love the way you lie
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:43 PM (ZSrej)
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State song ideas for Kentucky:
The Offspring - Self-Esteem
Now I know I'm being used
That's okay because I like the abuse
Eminem - Love the Way Your Lie
Just gonna stand there and watch me burn
Well, that's alright because I like the way it hurts
Just gonna stand there and hear me cry
Well, that's alright because I love the way you lie
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (z8vUP)
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He called for more time for the talks to play out, and made another pitch for H.R. 2, the Secure the Border Act, which the House passed in May without any Democratic votes.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), however, has called that bill a "non-starter" in the Senate.
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The House bill is a non-starter in the Senate? Ok, this bullshit sellout deal is a non-starter in the House. Your move, Chucky.
-Speaker Johnson (with Spine Implant)
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), however, has called that bill a "non-starter" in the Senate.
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The House bill is a non-starter in the Senate? Ok, this bullshit sellout deal is a non-starter in the House. Your move, Chucky.
-Speaker Johnson (with Spine Implant)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (fs1hN)
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Has Hunter resisted anything but rehab?
Posted by: Bete
Didja see this unfortunate photo of Dr. Jill?
http://tinyurl.com/56szz67w
Posted by: Bete
Didja see this unfortunate photo of Dr. Jill?
http://tinyurl.com/56szz67w
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (FVME7)
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Wasn't it Nikki Haley that said "Your sons and daughters are going to go fight and die for Ukraine if we don't continue laundering hundreds of billions of dollars" or something to that effect?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (+RC1q)
Wasn't that Milley? Or Austin?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
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I know Zelensky did, because there was tons of "fact checkers" insisting that people not listen to the words he was saying.
I'm almost certain Haley said something similar recently.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:39 PM (+RC1q)
Wasn't that Milley? Or Austin?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
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I know Zelensky did, because there was tons of "fact checkers" insisting that people not listen to the words he was saying.
I'm almost certain Haley said something similar recently.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (+RC1q)
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167 Look at the National polling on illegal immigration. It is becoming the number one issue with voters. You don't even need a big set of balls to take a hard line on this. You need to have a brain that realizes the citizens whom you are suppose to represent oppose illegal immigration and want these people out of the county.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (ZSrej)
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Sure but big money donors and what they want are more important.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (ZSrej)
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Sure but big money donors and what they want are more important.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (cMXNt)
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@SpeakerJohnson: "I looked at the President right across the table...
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I wonder what that was like. Did Biden stare blankly and then yell "LET'S PLAY TIDDLY-WINKS!"?
@SpeakerJohnson: "I looked at the President right across the table...
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I wonder what that was like. Did Biden stare blankly and then yell "LET'S PLAY TIDDLY-WINKS!"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (mvAZ0)
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This is Mike Johnson's moment. This is your test, buddy.
DON'T GIVE ONE MORE CENT FOR UKRAINE! Not another iota, or jot, and stand up for border security.
If you give in on either, you're dead. Politically. At the very least.
DON'T GIVE ONE MORE CENT FOR UKRAINE! Not another iota, or jot, and stand up for border security.
If you give in on either, you're dead. Politically. At the very least.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (dGCAG)
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Look, I say a lot of stupid things. But I'm polite and willing to compromise. And compromise is always the right thing g to do.Sure I might have compromised my self in the ba k seat of that car with will folkes, but you don't want to upset a colleague.
Posted by: Nikki. It's not a stripper name at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (Tez8k)
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meh. You'll need to grow an upper lip first.
Posted by: Nikki. It's not a stripper name at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (Tez8k)
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meh. You'll need to grow an upper lip first.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (v0R5T)
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236 Has Hunter resisted anything but rehab?
Posted by: Bete
Didja see this unfortunate photo of Dr. Jill?
http://tinyurl.com/56szz67w
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (FVME7)
Literally true most days
Posted by: Bete
Didja see this unfortunate photo of Dr. Jill?
http://tinyurl.com/56szz67w
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (FVME7)
Literally true most days
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (xcxpd)
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>>As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
No tats, no piercings and nice full breasts. A little meat around the waist. Would bang.
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
No tats, no piercings and nice full breasts. A little meat around the waist. Would bang.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (eYF7X)
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Her left boob is chilly but the right one is not?
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (v0R5T)
Water spot on the mirror. The housekeeper should be sacked.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (v0R5T)
Water spot on the mirror. The housekeeper should be sacked.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (tkR6S)
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225 >>Doesn't McConnell control a large source of Republican campaign cash?
Yes. And he spends it to benefit the Uni-Party. Not you.
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I'm not giving anyone any money so I can't expect anyone to give a crap about my agenda. But McConnell's agenda is top of mind if a Republican wants that seat cash to keep flowing.
Yes. And he spends it to benefit the Uni-Party. Not you.
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I'm not giving anyone any money so I can't expect anyone to give a crap about my agenda. But McConnell's agenda is top of mind if a Republican wants that seat cash to keep flowing.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (ogTiX)
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Why would it be cheap labor if everything's getting automated?
Posted by: SFGoth at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (KAi1n)
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What has zelinsky done with the Billions already given to him? Spreadsheet please.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (XIfwF)
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A friend told me to look at a residence in Kentucky. I replied, the place that elected a Democrat governor and Mitch McConnell?" Yeah, hard no.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (ZSrej)
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232 i'd like to hear Trump take a position on this.
DeSantis too.
I want to hear from them. And I don't want any pussyfooting with the open borders corporate caucus.
Posted by: ace at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
I'd agree with this- even if it makes no difference, the attention being drawn to it is a good thing.
DeSantis too.
I want to hear from them. And I don't want any pussyfooting with the open borders corporate caucus.
Posted by: ace at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
I'd agree with this- even if it makes no difference, the attention being drawn to it is a good thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (zZu0s)
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232 i'd like to hear Trump take a position on this.
DeSantis too.
I want to hear from them. And I don't want any pussyfooting with the open borders corporate caucus.
Posted by: ace at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
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Someone posted above, without attribution, that Johnson's been talking with Trump and Trump is in vehement opposition to the bill. I imagine DeSantis is also in opposition.
I can't wait to hear from Nikki Haley, trying to win over NH non-affiliated liberals for the primary, about how the Senate just needs to be allowed to impose its will on America without any pushback from Americans.
DeSantis too.
I want to hear from them. And I don't want any pussyfooting with the open borders corporate caucus.
Posted by: ace at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
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Someone posted above, without attribution, that Johnson's been talking with Trump and Trump is in vehement opposition to the bill. I imagine DeSantis is also in opposition.
I can't wait to hear from Nikki Haley, trying to win over NH non-affiliated liberals for the primary, about how the Senate just needs to be allowed to impose its will on America without any pushback from Americans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
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I wonder what that was like. Did Biden stare blankly and then yell "LET'S PLAY TIDDLY-WINKS!"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (mvAZ0)
I saw the vid of him walking up to a bike shop somewhere. The dead look in his eyes, being guided around like he's a toddler.
This is horrible. It's hard to overstate how horrible it is to have a dementia patient as the titular head of the nation.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at January 18, 2024 12:47 PM (mvAZ0)
I saw the vid of him walking up to a bike shop somewhere. The dead look in his eyes, being guided around like he's a toddler.
This is horrible. It's hard to overstate how horrible it is to have a dementia patient as the titular head of the nation.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 12:49 PM (dGCAG)
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Mexican weather girls and their children under 12.
Children under 12 will just be immediately trans'd by our delightful American schools (yes, even in red states). Seems like a bad deal for them.
Children under 12 will just be immediately trans'd by our delightful American schools (yes, even in red states). Seems like a bad deal for them.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 18, 2024 12:49 PM (2ocoG)
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Water spot on the mirror. The housekeeper should be sacked.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (tkR6S)
++++
She instructed the underbutler to deal with the housekeeper, but it's so hard to find good help nowadays. Next up is the butler and if he doesn't get it done, she's going to purge the entire household staff.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (tkR6S)
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She instructed the underbutler to deal with the housekeeper, but it's so hard to find good help nowadays. Next up is the butler and if he doesn't get it done, she's going to purge the entire household staff.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:49 PM (z8vUP)
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160 if McCarthy was still Speaker, he would be greasing the wheels for very quick passage of this bill.
I maintain my view that Matt Goetz is the single most effective and consequential Republican Congressman of the last 30 years. He fought, and won, when everyone told him fighting was pointless and stupid. He's the only reason we even have any chance of stopping this bill.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (i9ffA)
The DOJ/FBI investigated/blackmailed him as a direct result.
I maintain my view that Matt Goetz is the single most effective and consequential Republican Congressman of the last 30 years. He fought, and won, when everyone told him fighting was pointless and stupid. He's the only reason we even have any chance of stopping this bill.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 18, 2024 12:34 PM (i9ffA)
The DOJ/FBI investigated/blackmailed him as a direct result.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 18, 2024 12:49 PM (KSNKu)
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No tats, no piercings and nice full breasts. A little meat around the waist. Would bang.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (eYF7X)
'It's a shame you two don't get along.'
Sorry, you just reminded me of the little old lady in Airplane!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (eYF7X)
'It's a shame you two don't get along.'
Sorry, you just reminded me of the little old lady in Airplane!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:49 PM (zZu0s)
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Morning ace.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 18, 2024 12:49 PM (OZjDX)
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'supple breasts... MMMMM'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (zZu0s)
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153 As an Asian, this busty and athletic lady is permanently confused by our failure to secure the border because where she comes from, border control is paramount:
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (z8vUP)
I miss Thailand some days
http://tiny.cc/1d87wz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:33 PM (z8vUP)
I miss Thailand some days
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (xcxpd)
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Look at the National polling on illegal immigration. It is becoming the number one issue with voters....
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Wow, it turned out voters in these five cities once again turned out for abortion to put Biden over the top by 0.4%!
-MSM
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Wow, it turned out voters in these five cities once again turned out for abortion to put Biden over the top by 0.4%!
-MSM
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (+RC1q)
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The “weird” thing about this is that usually a multi-prong bill like this one ties something you want with something you don’t want, so that you’re forced to either reject what you want, or support what you don’t.
Huh.
Huh.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (EXyHK)
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245 I'm not giving anyone any money so I can't expect anyone to give a crap about my agenda. But McConnell's agenda is top of mind if a Republican wants that seat cash to keep flowing.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (ogTiX)
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Which is why perhaps the most important thing to do in terms of changing the Republican Party is to support alternate funding sources for campaigns.
Most of the alternate sources get built up around single candidates, though, with little sharing. It's a problem.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (ogTiX)
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Which is why perhaps the most important thing to do in terms of changing the Republican Party is to support alternate funding sources for campaigns.
Most of the alternate sources get built up around single candidates, though, with little sharing. It's a problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (GBKbO)
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I haven't actually seen stories saying so, but I'd bet anything that my senior senate-traitor, Tillis, is singing along with Mitch. I just hope Budd isn't totally bought.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (1bNHn)
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199 We live in an oligarchy. The rest is polite fiction.
Posted by: mr tmz
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If the oligarchs were wise and restrained in their appetites, you can get a stable and decent governance. But ours are evil and unrestrained in their appetites. History tells us that it won't end well for them or us. The only saving virtue is that such oligarchies are unstable and usually become rule by a despot aka dictator or sometimes a mob democracy breaks out (French Revolution) and the mob rule deteriorates after a bloodbath into a stable and prudent oligarchy.
Posted by: mr tmz
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If the oligarchs were wise and restrained in their appetites, you can get a stable and decent governance. But ours are evil and unrestrained in their appetites. History tells us that it won't end well for them or us. The only saving virtue is that such oligarchies are unstable and usually become rule by a despot aka dictator or sometimes a mob democracy breaks out (French Revolution) and the mob rule deteriorates after a bloodbath into a stable and prudent oligarchy.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (gvoQe)
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252 Mexican weather girls and their children under 12.
Children under 12 will just be immediately trans'd by our delightful American schools (yes, even in red states). Seems like a bad deal for them.
Sadly, some sacrifices must be made to get the elites out of the way.
Children under 12 will just be immediately trans'd by our delightful American schools (yes, even in red states). Seems like a bad deal for them.
Sadly, some sacrifices must be made to get the elites out of the way.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (ogTiX)
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Welcome to Davostistan.
Posted by: Eromero at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (F21AL)
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President Biden and congressional leaders in both parties are ramping up pressure on Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to accept an expected deal on Ukraine funding and border security, warning national security is at risk without action by Congress.
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Has anyone ever explained this last part?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (+RC1q)
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The gaslighting is part of the kink.
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Has anyone ever explained this last part?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (+RC1q)
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The gaslighting is part of the kink.
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (TgVp6)
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Hasn't been said lately: This country is so fucking boned.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (BdMk6)
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Ukraine - sunk cost fallacy, or graft? Ok, both, though mostly graft.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (fs1hN)
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259 Wow, it turned out voters in these five cities once again turned out at 143% turnout for abortion to put Biden over the top by 0.4%!
-MSM
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (+RC1q)
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Suggested addendum.
-MSM
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (+RC1q)
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Suggested addendum.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
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248 A friend told me to look at a residence in Kentucky. I replied, the place that elected a Democrat governor and Mitch McConnell?" Yeah, hard no.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (ZSrej)
It's a lovely state, though. And there's bourbon, my God, the bourbon...
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (ZSrej)
It's a lovely state, though. And there's bourbon, my God, the bourbon...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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Posted by: ace at January 18, 2024 12:46 PM (KRtlO)
I'd agree with this- even if it makes no difference, the attention being drawn to it is a good thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (zZu0s)
Seems like such a no-brainer. Close the border, stop funding the money suck in Ukraine. Any pol who can state both should be a landslide winner.
But then Vivek got less than 8% in Iowa. He's less clear on Ukraine, but was very clear on the border. Maybe the straights just don't care. Maybe national suicide is inevitable.
I'd agree with this- even if it makes no difference, the attention being drawn to it is a good thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (zZu0s)
Seems like such a no-brainer. Close the border, stop funding the money suck in Ukraine. Any pol who can state both should be a landslide winner.
But then Vivek got less than 8% in Iowa. He's less clear on Ukraine, but was very clear on the border. Maybe the straights just don't care. Maybe national suicide is inevitable.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (dGCAG)
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Look, I say a lot of stupid things. But I'm polite and willing to compromise. And compromise is always the right thing g to do.Sure I might have compromised my self in the ba k seat of that car with will folkes, but you don't want to upset a colleague.
Posted by: Nikki. It's not a stripper name at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (Tez8k)
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meh. You'll need to grow an upper lip first.
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Hey i really know how to work pole. Ask Will.
Posted by: Nikki. It's not a stripper name at January 18, 2024 12:42 PM (Tez8k)
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meh. You'll need to grow an upper lip first.
==
Hey i really know how to work pole. Ask Will.
Posted by: It'll get worse before it gets better at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (Tez8k)
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>>Water spot on the mirror. The housekeeper should be sacked.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Are you sure those are water spots?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Are you sure those are water spots?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (eYF7X)
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270
It's a lovely state, though. And there's bourbon, my God, the bourbon...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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Not even Kentuckians can get Blanton's!
(because it's primarily made for the Japanese market, but still)
It's a lovely state, though. And there's bourbon, my God, the bourbon...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (xcxpd)
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Not even Kentuckians can get Blanton's!
(because it's primarily made for the Japanese market, but still)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (GBKbO)
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I think she's more buxom than busty --Doof
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A nice distinction, and we would profit mightily by having a day-long detailed discussion of the fine points.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2024
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There's a difference?
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A nice distinction, and we would profit mightily by having a day-long detailed discussion of the fine points.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2024
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There's a difference?
Posted by: Editors of Big 'Uns at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (J2vNu)
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199 We live in an oligarchy. The rest is polite fiction.
Posted by: mr tmz
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Well, oligarchy IS the natural tendency of republics. The question is whether one can keep it under some control.
Posted by: mr tmz
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Well, oligarchy IS the natural tendency of republics. The question is whether one can keep it under some control.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (1bNHn)
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"If the oligarchs were wise and restrained in their appetites, you can get a stable and decent governance. But ours are evil and unrestrained in their appetites."
And crazily in thrall to false dogma.
And crazily in thrall to false dogma.
Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (MvF+J)
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I wonder what dirt Ukraine is prepared to release on the likes of Joetato and Cocaine Mitch?
they seem ... shockingly devoted to giving Ukraine loads of aid
they seem ... shockingly devoted to giving Ukraine loads of aid
Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (AcWfM)
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Has anyone ever explained this last part?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (+RC1q)
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The current border condition is disastrous and a threat to national security. (true)
The new bill provides for major reform that will improve the border situation, reduce inflow and minimize the chaos associated with the migratory wave (lie)
By opposing the border bill, Johnson is harming our national security by leaving the border unaddressed (lie)
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:36 PM (+RC1q)
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The current border condition is disastrous and a threat to national security. (true)
The new bill provides for major reform that will improve the border situation, reduce inflow and minimize the chaos associated with the migratory wave (lie)
By opposing the border bill, Johnson is harming our national security by leaving the border unaddressed (lie)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (z8vUP)
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So, waddya gonna do about it? vote? Hahahahaha
Posted by: phydeaux at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (MunRT)
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Welcome to Davostistan.
Posted by: Eromero at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (F21AL)
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"Wait a minute, those thing you're putting around our necks are NOT leis!
Posted by: Eromero at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (F21AL)
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"Wait a minute, those thing you're putting around our necks are NOT leis!
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:53 PM (TgVp6)
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If the oligarchs were wise and restrained in their appetites, you can get a stable and decent governance. But ours are evil and unrestrained in their appetites.
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*shifty eyes*
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*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Chuck MartelUnited Air Lines Cross Dressing CEO at January 18, 2024 12:53 PM (fs1hN)
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"It's a lovely state, though. And there's bourbon, my God, the bourbon...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (xcxpd)"
I don't disagree and there are some nice people. But I will never move to a state that's moving slowly into the Democrat Cult.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (xcxpd)"
I don't disagree and there are some nice people. But I will never move to a state that's moving slowly into the Democrat Cult.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:53 PM (ZSrej)
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What has zelinsky done with the Billions already given to him? Spreadsheet please.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (XIfwF)
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If I was him I would have already bought a couple islands in the Maldives.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 18, 2024 12:48 PM (XIfwF)
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If I was him I would have already bought a couple islands in the Maldives.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:53 PM (v0R5T)
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Not even Kentuckians can get Blanton's!
(because it's primarily made for the Japanese market, but still)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (GBKbO)
literally true. I drove to KY (from Indiana but still) and no Blantons to be found. Then last month, my local liquor store had a bottle and sold it to me....secretly. Apparently he won't admit to having Blanton's in stock if there are other customers around, to avoid the speculators looking to flip bottles (?)
(because it's primarily made for the Japanese market, but still)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (GBKbO)
literally true. I drove to KY (from Indiana but still) and no Blantons to be found. Then last month, my local liquor store had a bottle and sold it to me....secretly. Apparently he won't admit to having Blanton's in stock if there are other customers around, to avoid the speculators looking to flip bottles (?)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (xcxpd)
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From the beginning, McConnell announced that the only thing that matters him is paying for the Deep State's proxy war in Ukraine, and that his commitment to border security was just a posture:
I've asked this before. I'll ask it again.
Mitch McConnell went straight from graduating UofL Law into politics. He also was hit with polio light in his youth. So the hog jawed, shambling man you see today was never a virile lad - not even in his prime.
So how, exactly, did he pull Elaine Chao ? A woman who was good looking into her fifties, from a wealthy Taiwan family ? At what moment did Elaine look across the room and decide "That's the guy. I must have the limping dude from Kentucky who's never turned a day's hard labor in his life." ?
Has it ever occurred to anyone else that Mitch McConnell might be up to his ass in corruption, and compromised by his wife who may just also be his handler ?
I've asked this before. I'll ask it again.
Mitch McConnell went straight from graduating UofL Law into politics. He also was hit with polio light in his youth. So the hog jawed, shambling man you see today was never a virile lad - not even in his prime.
So how, exactly, did he pull Elaine Chao ? A woman who was good looking into her fifties, from a wealthy Taiwan family ? At what moment did Elaine look across the room and decide "That's the guy. I must have the limping dude from Kentucky who's never turned a day's hard labor in his life." ?
Has it ever occurred to anyone else that Mitch McConnell might be up to his ass in corruption, and compromised by his wife who may just also be his handler ?
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (1/cvT)
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Kentucky re-elected a Democrat governor who has been actively working against the people. I guess they like the abuse.
Posted by: Marcus T
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It's a dynasty. Half the idiots here probably thought they were still voting for his daddy.
Posted by: Marcus T
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It's a dynasty. Half the idiots here probably thought they were still voting for his daddy.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (h4L2p)
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Ukraine - sunk cost fallacy, or graft? Ok, both, though mostly graft.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (fs1hN)
Don't forget the secret bio and chemical labs! The stuff we're doing over there that's a violation of "international law."
Some of these assclowns in DC know they're subject to crimes against humanity charges, if all that info gets out in the world.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (fs1hN)
Don't forget the secret bio and chemical labs! The stuff we're doing over there that's a violation of "international law."
Some of these assclowns in DC know they're subject to crimes against humanity charges, if all that info gets out in the world.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (dGCAG)
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Missed the last thread,
moon_over_vermont, Rest in Piece.
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of His hand.
Posted by: Inogame
May you be in the sweet land of liberty a half hour before Biden knows you're dead.
moon_over_vermont, Rest in Piece.
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of His hand.
Posted by: Inogame
May you be in the sweet land of liberty a half hour before Biden knows you're dead.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (FVME7)
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But then Vivek got less than 8% in Iowa. He's less clear on Ukraine, but was very clear on the border. Maybe the straights just don't care. Maybe national suicide is inevitable.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (dGCAG)
My guess would be that it is because Trump owns the issue of the Border. Right or Wrong, he is the chief mascot.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (dGCAG)
My guess would be that it is because Trump owns the issue of the Border. Right or Wrong, he is the chief mascot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (zZu0s)
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Geez. My local guy has Blanton's. What's up with that.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (ZSrej)
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285 literally true. I drove to KY (from Indiana but still) and no Blantons to be found. Then last month, my local liquor store had a bottle and sold it to me....secretly. Apparently he won't admit to having Blanton's in stock if there are other customers around, to avoid the speculators looking to flip bottles (?)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (xcxpd)
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My father in law got us a bottle of Blanton's for Christmas a couple of years ago. He paid $200 for it.
We still haven't opened it. We probably never will.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (xcxpd)
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My father in law got us a bottle of Blanton's for Christmas a couple of years ago. He paid $200 for it.
We still haven't opened it. We probably never will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (GBKbO)
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But then Vivek got less than 8% in Iowa. He's less clear on Ukraine, but was very clear on the border. Maybe the straights just don't care. Maybe national suicide is inevitable.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (dGCAG)
Vivek's problem was that he was "believe me that I'm exactly Trump without being Trump". Most of the people who wanted exactly Trump voted for Trump.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 12:51 PM (dGCAG)
Vivek's problem was that he was "believe me that I'm exactly Trump without being Trump". Most of the people who wanted exactly Trump voted for Trump.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 18, 2024 12:55 PM (GYIa4)
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Let them die. I have pushed back against what I considered a pro-Russian kind of tilt on Ukraine, but now I'm here: Let the Ukrainians die.
An entire generation has already died and WE CAUSED THIS. We overthrew Ukraine's government. We pushed putting Ukraine in NATO, even though Putin was very clear that was his red line. We scuttled negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.
Our taxpayers and their men have paid the price for all of this. I've read reports that the men in Ukraine who are not already dead are in hiding. They don't go out for fear of being snatched off the streets and pressed into service.
There was a video going around a couple of months ago where a bunch of middle aged, grim looking men were all in some sort of recruiting morale event where an attractive woman was playing up to the camera and the men all looked like they knew they were going to die.
Mitch and the rest of the uniparty did this.
An entire generation has already died and WE CAUSED THIS. We overthrew Ukraine's government. We pushed putting Ukraine in NATO, even though Putin was very clear that was his red line. We scuttled negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.
Our taxpayers and their men have paid the price for all of this. I've read reports that the men in Ukraine who are not already dead are in hiding. They don't go out for fear of being snatched off the streets and pressed into service.
There was a video going around a couple of months ago where a bunch of middle aged, grim looking men were all in some sort of recruiting morale event where an attractive woman was playing up to the camera and the men all looked like they knew they were going to die.
Mitch and the rest of the uniparty did this.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 18, 2024 12:55 PM (Odg76)
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@278
>>they seem ... shockingly devoted to giving Ukraine loads of aid
Again, I think it really boils down to the entire Corrupt Global System is predicated and undergirded by vast amounts of American Taxpayer money sloshing through the sluices.
The can't and will never turn off the taps.
Just a couple of days ago, Yellen said, hey 51T in US debt is nothing and will be a good thing.
These people are f**king maniacs and are hellbent on taking us to oblivion.
>>they seem ... shockingly devoted to giving Ukraine loads of aid
Again, I think it really boils down to the entire Corrupt Global System is predicated and undergirded by vast amounts of American Taxpayer money sloshing through the sluices.
The can't and will never turn off the taps.
Just a couple of days ago, Yellen said, hey 51T in US debt is nothing and will be a good thing.
These people are f**king maniacs and are hellbent on taking us to oblivion.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (rc3Z7)
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These are the same Republicans who sold President Trump out in 2020. They wanted him gone. It's because they hate MAGA, as it represents a true threat to their iron grip on power. I personally hope I live to see Mitch McConnell and his sycophants pay for the numerous crimes they have committed, both against Trump and this nation. McConnell is fucking scum!
Posted by: Tracy at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (2aUa7)
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But then Vivek got less than 8% in Iowa. He's less clear on Ukraine, but was very clear on the border. Maybe the straights just don't care. Maybe national suicide is inevitable.
Posted by: BurtTC
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My guess is that most primary voters in Iowa where border security was an issue went with Trump or DeSantis. Vivek has no track record and people should and do automatically discount what any aspiring pol says versus prior track record.
I am sure that at one time or another that Nikki claimed she wants 'border security' in order to fool the plebes.
Posted by: BurtTC
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My guess is that most primary voters in Iowa where border security was an issue went with Trump or DeSantis. Vivek has no track record and people should and do automatically discount what any aspiring pol says versus prior track record.
I am sure that at one time or another that Nikki claimed she wants 'border security' in order to fool the plebes.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (gvoQe)
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Mybe if we fund Sex Changes for the Russian Soldiers in Ukraine that will end the war....
Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (BKOUD)
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290 My guess would be that it is because Trump owns the issue of the Border. Right or Wrong, he is the chief mascot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (zZu0s)
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Even Willie Talos thought the people could be moved with numbers on tax rates in his speeches until he went full-bore anti-establishmentarian populist.
(All the King's Men the novel >>>> All the King's Men the movie)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (zZu0s)
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Even Willie Talos thought the people could be moved with numbers on tax rates in his speeches until he went full-bore anti-establishmentarian populist.
(All the King's Men the novel >>>> All the King's Men the movie)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
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If the oligarchs were wise and restrained in their appetites, you can get a stable and decent governance. But ours are evil and unrestrained in their appetites. History tells us that it won't end well for them or us. The only saving virtue is that such oligarchies are unstable and usually become rule by a despot aka dictator or sometimes a mob democracy breaks out (French Revolution) and the mob rule deteriorates after a bloodbath into a stable and prudent oligarchy.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (gvoQe)
Our oligarchy now is just as batshit crazy as a huge swath of the American public. Their ho's and help in Congress largely are ho's and help, but quite a few of them also are batshit crazy.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (gvoQe)
Our oligarchy now is just as batshit crazy as a huge swath of the American public. Their ho's and help in Congress largely are ho's and help, but quite a few of them also are batshit crazy.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (KSNKu)
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This is horrible. It's hard to overstate how horrible it is to have a dementia patient as the titular head of the nation.
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Sorry we don't understand. By "horrible" do you mean "absolutely fucking ideal", because this is perfect for us.
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Sorry we don't understand. By "horrible" do you mean "absolutely fucking ideal", because this is perfect for us.
Posted by: The string pullers at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (Tez8k)
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Afternoon Ace. McConnell has probably pocketed millions from his position and from the Ukraine bs. What good is that money
his children or grandchildren are dead or enslaved ? He like the GOPe cannot see beyond the imperial city.
his children or grandchildren are dead or enslaved ? He like the GOPe cannot see beyond the imperial city.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (/Mbcg)
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What has zelinsky done with the Billions already given to him? Spreadsheet please.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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How many other billionaire low level actors in 3rd world nations have you ever heard of?
Posted by: nurse ratched
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How many other billionaire low level actors in 3rd world nations have you ever heard of?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (+RC1q)
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I'd love it if Speaker Johnson asked why the Biden's allowed journalist Gonzalo Lira to die in Ukrainian prison and why should we give more money to such an evil regime.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (fs1hN)
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If the oligarchs were wise and restrained in their appetites, you can get a stable and decent governance. But ours are evil and unrestrained in their appetites. History tells us that it won't end well for them or us. The only saving virtue is that such oligarchies are unstable and usually become rule by a despot aka dictator or sometimes a mob democracy breaks out (French Revolution) and the mob rule deteriorates after a bloodbath into a stable and prudent oligarchy.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (gvoQe)
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Agree.
OTOH reading of the history of Israel in the Old Testament will show that the degradation could take centuries.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 12:50 PM (gvoQe)
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Agree.
OTOH reading of the history of Israel in the Old Testament will show that the degradation could take centuries.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (cMXNt)
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My father in law got us a bottle of Blanton's for Christmas a couple of years ago. He paid $200 for it.
We still haven't opened it. We probably never will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Ive got a friend that buys a bottle of pappy and then only takes a single shot for special occasions, like Sparty winning a national title and his birthday.
We still haven't opened it. We probably never will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Ive got a friend that buys a bottle of pappy and then only takes a single shot for special occasions, like Sparty winning a national title and his birthday.
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (CIS44)
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278 I wonder what dirt Ukraine is prepared to release on the likes of Joetato and Cocaine Mitch?
they seem ... shockingly devoted to giving Ukraine loads of aid
Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (AcWfM)
If it was just about graft, they wouldn't be as scared as they are.
It's not just about graft.
they seem ... shockingly devoted to giving Ukraine loads of aid
Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at January 18, 2024 12:52 PM (AcWfM)
If it was just about graft, they wouldn't be as scared as they are.
It's not just about graft.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (dGCAG)
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My father in law got us a bottle of Blanton's for Christmas a couple of years ago. He paid $200 for it.
We still haven't opened it. We probably never will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (GBKbO)
I now own two bottles. One for drinking and one for looking at.
We still haven't opened it. We probably never will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (GBKbO)
I now own two bottles. One for drinking and one for looking at.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (xcxpd)
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105 The reason why they went all in on the J6 “insurrection” BS was to let the American people know resistance will ruin you.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (cMXNt)
The other end of that trick bag is you can get people that realize they need to go full tilt...
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:26 PM (cMXNt)
The other end of that trick bag is you can get people that realize they need to go full tilt...
Posted by: Inogame at January 18, 2024 12:57 PM (53oGX)
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Kentucky has many horses. They also have many flies and bad odors from the horses and farm animals. I'll pass.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 12:57 PM (eYF7X)
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Has it ever occurred to anyone else that Mitch McConnell might be up to his ass in corruption, and compromised by his wife who may just also be his handler ?
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (1/cvT)
There have been hundreds, perhaps thousands, of comments on that very subject.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (1/cvT)
There have been hundreds, perhaps thousands, of comments on that very subject.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 18, 2024 12:57 PM (GYIa4)
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306 Ive got a friend that buys a bottle of pappy and then only takes a single shot for special occasions, like Sparty winning a national title and his birthday.
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (CIS44)
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You've got to drink whiskey within a year of opening it, or else it loses all flavor and just tastes of alcohol.
That's a waste of Pappy.
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (CIS44)
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You've got to drink whiskey within a year of opening it, or else it loses all flavor and just tastes of alcohol.
That's a waste of Pappy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
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>>they seem ... shockingly devoted to giving Ukraine loads of aid
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I suspect there's a reason the head of the teacher's union decided she needed to make a personal trip over there.
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I suspect there's a reason the head of the teacher's union decided she needed to make a personal trip over there.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 12:57 PM (+RC1q)
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Yeah, we haven't been re-electing McConnell because we LIKE him. We've been trying to contain Dems running that'd immediately have an AOC-level presence in the media if we DIDN'T. Plus, he's quite frankly pulled the wool over some people's eyes. If he runs for re-election... and I wouldn't be so sure that he gets to decide that, since the Grim Reaper is hovering over his left soldier laughing every time he speaks... he may well not win. His endorsement probably sank Daniel Cameron as much as the Cult of Moloch did.
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 12:58 PM (rM26B)
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you know, thy could just pass a bill that biden could sign that says pretty much what we want to hear, and then the biden admin could then just refuse to enforce it like they do now. everyone wins except the country
Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 18, 2024 12:58 PM (B1FKF)
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308 I now own two bottles. One for drinking and one for looking at.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (xcxpd)
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I hope to one day have all 8 bottle tops to spell out Blanton's and have the whole motion of the horse. All still on top of unopened bottles, of course.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (xcxpd)
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I hope to one day have all 8 bottle tops to spell out Blanton's and have the whole motion of the horse. All still on top of unopened bottles, of course.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: garrett at January 18, 2024 12:58 PM (RVloE)
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Even Willie Talos thought the people could be moved with numbers on tax rates in his speeches until he went full-bore anti-establishmentarian populist.
(All the King's Men the novel >>>> All the King's Men the movie)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
I'm increasingly sympathetic to populists. I'll take that over rule by the elites, now that I've seen what that looks like.
(All the King's Men the novel >>>> All the King's Men the movie)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
I'm increasingly sympathetic to populists. I'll take that over rule by the elites, now that I've seen what that looks like.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (JeYYB)
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Romney asked “about Iowa caucus entrance polls showing that a majority of GOP caucusgoers didn’t believe that Joe Biden was elected legitimately.”
Romney replied, "I think a lot of people in this country are out of touch with reality and will accept anything Donald Trump tells them. You had a jury that said that Donald Trump raped a woman. And that doesn’t seem to be moving the needle. There’s a lot of things about today’s electorate that I have a hard time understanding."
Romney replied, "I think a lot of people in this country are out of touch with reality and will accept anything Donald Trump tells them. You had a jury that said that Donald Trump raped a woman. And that doesn’t seem to be moving the needle. There’s a lot of things about today’s electorate that I have a hard time understanding."
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (RHGPo)
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Stefanik is the whip, she seems able, hope she keeps them in line behind Johnson. She's certainly not GOPe Scalise.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (Wj/z9)
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I saw Crazily In Thrall To False Dogma open for Karma To Burn at The Purple Fiddle in 2017.
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (TgVp6)
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literally true. I drove to KY (from Indiana but still) and no Blantons to be found. Then last month, my local liquor store had a bottle and sold it to me....secretly. Apparently he won't admit to having Blanton's in stock if there are other customers around, to avoid the speculators looking to flip bottles (?)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (xcxpd)
*supresses image of MAE walking up to the counter silently, looking both ways and stretching dramatically, the cashier looking both ways and then touching his nose. MAE then knocks a news paper off the counter, picks it up, stuffs $20s into the folded paper and then lays it back on the counter. The cashier slides the paper back to himself opens it, scans the contents, closes it. 'There's a sale at Penny's.' in monotone. MAE nods silently, knowing he is to come around the back of the store at 5:13PM and the back door will be unlocked. Just inside will be a key to the propane tank cage...*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (xcxpd)
*supresses image of MAE walking up to the counter silently, looking both ways and stretching dramatically, the cashier looking both ways and then touching his nose. MAE then knocks a news paper off the counter, picks it up, stuffs $20s into the folded paper and then lays it back on the counter. The cashier slides the paper back to himself opens it, scans the contents, closes it. 'There's a sale at Penny's.' in monotone. MAE nods silently, knowing he is to come around the back of the store at 5:13PM and the back door will be unlocked. Just inside will be a key to the propane tank cage...*
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 01:00 PM (zZu0s)
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There was a video going around a couple of months ago where a bunch of middle aged, grim looking men were all in some sort of recruiting morale event where an attractive woman was playing up to the camera and the men all looked like they knew they were going to die.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 18, 2024 12:55 PM (Odg76)
Like the open southern border, this is all part of the WEF's plan. Global population of 750M, predominately Asian and Latin as they are well suited to regimentation and/or strongmen.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 18, 2024 12:55 PM (Odg76)
Like the open southern border, this is all part of the WEF's plan. Global population of 750M, predominately Asian and Latin as they are well suited to regimentation and/or strongmen.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 18, 2024 01:00 PM (GYIa4)
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318 I'm increasingly sympathetic to populists. I'll take that over rule by the elites, now that I've seen what that looks like.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (xcxpd)
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Populists start from the assumption that the people should get what they want from government.
I'm not opposed to that concept in theory. It's the specific flavor that concerns me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (xcxpd)
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Populists start from the assumption that the people should get what they want from government.
I'm not opposed to that concept in theory. It's the specific flavor that concerns me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
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I'd love it if Speaker Johnson asked why the Biden's allowed journalist Gonzalo Lira to die in Ukrainian prison and why should we give more money to such an evil regime.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM
Very good question as to why we would support such a corrupt country. I can't say I cared too much about Ukraine's predicament from the beginning but the Lira death has me now pegged at -zero.
I'd love it if Speaker Johnson asked why the Biden's allowed journalist Gonzalo Lira to die in Ukrainian prison and why should we give more money to such an evil regime.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM
Very good question as to why we would support such a corrupt country. I can't say I cared too much about Ukraine's predicament from the beginning but the Lira death has me now pegged at -zero.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 18, 2024 01:00 PM (nIvob)
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316 308 I now own two bottles. One for drinking and one for looking at.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (xcxpd)
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I hope to one day have all 8 bottle tops to spell out Blanton's and have the whole motion of the horse. All still on top of unopened bottles, of course.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
Well...it's a goal. There are worse ones.
It's just SUCH a good drink. I hate that I have to save it for special occasions. In a just world, I'd have a couple ounces every night before bed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (xcxpd)
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I hope to one day have all 8 bottle tops to spell out Blanton's and have the whole motion of the horse. All still on top of unopened bottles, of course.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
Well...it's a goal. There are worse ones.
It's just SUCH a good drink. I hate that I have to save it for special occasions. In a just world, I'd have a couple ounces every night before bed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:01 PM (xcxpd)
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I despise the whole "let's reach across the aisle" bullshit.
I hated it with Reagan and O'Neil.
Conservatives ALWAYS get fucked with these "deals."
Always.
Compromise is just asking politely for the dems to use lube.
I hated it with Reagan and O'Neil.
Conservatives ALWAYS get fucked with these "deals."
Always.
Compromise is just asking politely for the dems to use lube.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 18, 2024 01:01 PM (JeYYB)
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320 Romney asked “about Iowa caucus entrance polls showing that a majority of GOP caucusgoers didn’t believe that Joe Biden was elected legitimately.”
Romney replied, "I think a lot of people in this country are out of touch with reality and will accept anything Donald Trump tells them. You had a jury that said that Donald Trump raped a woman. And that doesn’t seem to be moving the needle. There’s a lot of things about today’s electorate that I have a hard time understanding."
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (RHGPo)
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He could have also noted that the decreasing legitimacy of institutions is something that institutions have to counteract by becoming more legitimate and trustworthy, but he just laid the blame on the people.
Because elitist piece of shit.
Romney replied, "I think a lot of people in this country are out of touch with reality and will accept anything Donald Trump tells them. You had a jury that said that Donald Trump raped a woman. And that doesn’t seem to be moving the needle. There’s a lot of things about today’s electorate that I have a hard time understanding."
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (RHGPo)
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He could have also noted that the decreasing legitimacy of institutions is something that institutions have to counteract by becoming more legitimate and trustworthy, but he just laid the blame on the people.
Because elitist piece of shit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:01 PM (GBKbO)
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323 literally true. I drove to KY (from Indiana but still) and no Blantons to be found. Then last month, my local liquor store had a bottle and sold it to me....secretly. Apparently he won't admit to having Blanton's in stock if there are other customers around, to avoid the speculators looking to flip bottles (?)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (xcxpd)
*supresses image of MAE walking up to the counter silently, looking both ways and stretching dramatically, the cashier looking both ways and then touching his nose. MAE then knocks a news paper off the counter, picks it up, stuffs $20s into the folded paper and then lays it back on the counter. The cashier slides the paper back to himself opens it, scans the contents, closes it. 'There's a sale at Penny's.' in monotone. MAE nods silently, knowing he is to come around the back of the store at 5:13PM and the back door will be unlocked. Just inside will be a key to the propane tank cage...*
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 01:00 PM (zZu0s)
lol
Not far off...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:54 PM (xcxpd)
*supresses image of MAE walking up to the counter silently, looking both ways and stretching dramatically, the cashier looking both ways and then touching his nose. MAE then knocks a news paper off the counter, picks it up, stuffs $20s into the folded paper and then lays it back on the counter. The cashier slides the paper back to himself opens it, scans the contents, closes it. 'There's a sale at Penny's.' in monotone. MAE nods silently, knowing he is to come around the back of the store at 5:13PM and the back door will be unlocked. Just inside will be a key to the propane tank cage...*
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 18, 2024 01:00 PM (zZu0s)
lol
Not far off...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:02 PM (xcxpd)
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think it really boils down to the entire Corrupt Global System is predicated and undergirded by vast amounts of American Taxpayer money sloshing through the sluices
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We are an unlimited ATM card that they can access at will. A nice war means an excuse to charge it up even more. The uniparty is best understood as a mafia like bustout operation silent partnered to a sole proprietor that can't easily go bankrupt because it has nearly unlimited credit.
Nearly.
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We are an unlimited ATM card that they can access at will. A nice war means an excuse to charge it up even more. The uniparty is best understood as a mafia like bustout operation silent partnered to a sole proprietor that can't easily go bankrupt because it has nearly unlimited credit.
Nearly.
Posted by: It's like having a crooked business manager at January 18, 2024 01:02 PM (Tez8k)
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Mittens is looking rough as fuck lately. Maybe he can take the turtle with him.
Posted by: nckate at January 18, 2024 01:02 PM (EPm6B)
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Has it ever occurred to anyone else that Mitch McConnell might be up to his ass in corruption, and compromised by his wife who may just also be his handler ?
Posted by: Questions
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Of course he is. Basically the Senate Committee on Intelligence is a center for uniparty corruption from information peddling, insider trading using secret intel, to using the fedgov's intel resources to target their political enemies.
McConnell and his 'wife' got a huge multimillion dollar 'gift' from Chao's father who happens to run one of the world's largest shipping companies, Foremost Group focusing on the China trade. Chao's father and mother were both KMT refugees from the mainland China.
Posted by: Questions
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Of course he is. Basically the Senate Committee on Intelligence is a center for uniparty corruption from information peddling, insider trading using secret intel, to using the fedgov's intel resources to target their political enemies.
McConnell and his 'wife' got a huge multimillion dollar 'gift' from Chao's father who happens to run one of the world's largest shipping companies, Foremost Group focusing on the China trade. Chao's father and mother were both KMT refugees from the mainland China.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 01:02 PM (gvoQe)
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Let them die. I have pushed back against what I considered a pro-Russian kind of tilt on Ukraine, but now I'm here: Let the Ukrainians die.
An entire generation has already died and WE CAUSED THIS. We overthrew Ukraine's government. We pushed putting Ukraine in NATO, even though Putin was very clear that was his red line. We scuttled negotiations between Russia and Ukraine...
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The current average age of a Ukranian soldier:
43
WINNING!!!
An entire generation has already died and WE CAUSED THIS. We overthrew Ukraine's government. We pushed putting Ukraine in NATO, even though Putin was very clear that was his red line. We scuttled negotiations between Russia and Ukraine...
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The current average age of a Ukranian soldier:
43
WINNING!!!
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:02 PM (+RC1q)
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Agree.
OTOH reading of the history of Israel in the Old Testament will show that the degradation could take centuries.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (cMXNt)
I think religion does factor into this, in that a nation that was on paper at least, governed by pious men, the rot is either going to come in more slowly, or hey who knows, not at all.
In the case of biblical Israel, it's kinda easy to see the pattern, when men strayed from God, bad things tended to happen. So there were good times and bad times mixed in, accordingly.
OTOH reading of the history of Israel in the Old Testament will show that the degradation could take centuries.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (cMXNt)
I think religion does factor into this, in that a nation that was on paper at least, governed by pious men, the rot is either going to come in more slowly, or hey who knows, not at all.
In the case of biblical Israel, it's kinda easy to see the pattern, when men strayed from God, bad things tended to happen. So there were good times and bad times mixed in, accordingly.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:02 PM (dGCAG)
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Has Pathetic Pierre Delecto ever commented on Joe Biden's corruption?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 18, 2024 01:03 PM (kSHhA)
Posted by: davidt at January 18, 2024 01:03 PM (SYTee)
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327 Well...it's a goal. There are worse ones.
It's just SUCH a good drink. I hate that I have to save it for special occasions. In a just world, I'd have a couple ounces every night before bed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:01 PM (xcxpd)
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I think it's...bourbon. The overrepresentation of corn in the mash of all bourbons (by legal definition) creates this sameness to most bourbons that makes so many taste so similar.
It's one reason I prefer scotches: There's a greater variety.
It's just SUCH a good drink. I hate that I have to save it for special occasions. In a just world, I'd have a couple ounces every night before bed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:01 PM (xcxpd)
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I think it's...bourbon. The overrepresentation of corn in the mash of all bourbons (by legal definition) creates this sameness to most bourbons that makes so many taste so similar.
It's one reason I prefer scotches: There's a greater variety.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:03 PM (GBKbO)
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What good is that money his children or grandchildren are dead or enslaved ? He like the GOPe cannot see beyond the imperial city.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (/Mbcg)
It's not unlike all the global elite who've built doomsday bunkers in the belief that they'll be just fine in the aftermath of whatever hellscape they plan on unleashing on us.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (/Mbcg)
It's not unlike all the global elite who've built doomsday bunkers in the belief that they'll be just fine in the aftermath of whatever hellscape they plan on unleashing on us.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 18, 2024 01:03 PM (GYIa4)
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Romney replied, "I think a lot of people in this country are out of touch with reality and will accept anything the media tells them about Donald Trump.
There, fixed it, you out of touch 'elitist'.
There, fixed it, you out of touch 'elitist'.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 01:03 PM (fs1hN)
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Yeah, we haven't been re-electing McConnell because we LIKE him. We've been trying to contain Dems running that'd immediately have an AOC-level presence in the media if we DIDN'T.
I can't think, in the last twenty years, of a single candidate put up against Mitch McConnell that wasn't bat-shit crazy. The last one, Allison Grimes, ran a fantastic campaign for Boston or NYC. Unfortunately for her, the contest was held in Kentucky.
It's odd - the other Senate seat, currently held by Rand Paul - gets reasonable DNC challengers. They seem to find credible Governor candidates. But never Mitch's seat. It's almost ... collusion. But that could never be, of course. The UniParty is just a fever dream of us folks with a fetish for tin foil head wear.
I can't think, in the last twenty years, of a single candidate put up against Mitch McConnell that wasn't bat-shit crazy. The last one, Allison Grimes, ran a fantastic campaign for Boston or NYC. Unfortunately for her, the contest was held in Kentucky.
It's odd - the other Senate seat, currently held by Rand Paul - gets reasonable DNC challengers. They seem to find credible Governor candidates. But never Mitch's seat. It's almost ... collusion. But that could never be, of course. The UniParty is just a fever dream of us folks with a fetish for tin foil head wear.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (1/cvT)
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Make the Azovs Great Again
Posted by: Sen. Mitch McConnell at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (e1pHV)
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"...There’s a lot of things about today’s electorate that I have a hard time understanding."
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The media are pushing to the front causes and people otherwise forgotten in order to achieve their tyrannical goals.
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The media are pushing to the front causes and people otherwise forgotten in order to achieve their tyrannical goals.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (Wj/z9)
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I'm increasingly sympathetic to populists. I'll take that over rule by the elites, now that I've seen what that looks like.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (xcxpd)
You see, Populism has less to do with a form of government than how many people you have to make happy to keep in charge of running things.
The type of populism people actually fear is the one where the message is "I listen to you" and the reality is "If you make the wrong decision en masse, I will of course do what my close coterie of supporters think is best anyways"
It is the difference between, say, having a policy of letting the people who do the work make the decisions, and having a "buy-in" initiative run by HR.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (xcxpd)
You see, Populism has less to do with a form of government than how many people you have to make happy to keep in charge of running things.
The type of populism people actually fear is the one where the message is "I listen to you" and the reality is "If you make the wrong decision en masse, I will of course do what my close coterie of supporters think is best anyways"
It is the difference between, say, having a policy of letting the people who do the work make the decisions, and having a "buy-in" initiative run by HR.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (D7oie)
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Even if there was any justification for giving Ukraine money, which there isn't aside from protecting the graft and evidence of the graft, it is about as unrelated to border security as anything.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (BwMHy)
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Romney replied, "I think a lot of people in this country are out of touch with reality and will accept anything Donald Trump tells them. You had a jury that said that Donald Trump raped a woman. And that doesn’t seem to be moving the needle. There’s a lot of things about today’s electorate that I have a hard time understanding."
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (RHGP
The jury didn’t convict Trump of anything close to rape. What a low life douche bag bearing false witness.
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (RHGP
The jury didn’t convict Trump of anything close to rape. What a low life douche bag bearing false witness.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (MNhXM)
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It's one reason I prefer scotches: There's a greater variety.
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Tastes ranges from dirt to peat and everything in between.
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Tastes ranges from dirt to peat and everything in between.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (fs1hN)
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341 I can't think, in the last twenty years, of a single candidate put up against Mitch McConnell that wasn't bat-shit crazy. The last one, Allison Grimes, ran a fantastic campaign for Boston or NYC. Unfortunately for her, the contest was held in Kentucky.
It's odd - the other Senate seat, currently held by Rand Paul - gets reasonable DNC challengers. They seem to find credible Governor candidates. But never Mitch's seat. It's almost ... collusion. But that could never be, of course. The UniParty is just a fever dream of us folks with a fetish for tin foil head wear.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (1/cvT)
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Mitch won his last primary by 76 points.
Fuck the excuses. Republicans in KY like Mitch.
It's odd - the other Senate seat, currently held by Rand Paul - gets reasonable DNC challengers. They seem to find credible Governor candidates. But never Mitch's seat. It's almost ... collusion. But that could never be, of course. The UniParty is just a fever dream of us folks with a fetish for tin foil head wear.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (1/cvT)
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Mitch won his last primary by 76 points.
Fuck the excuses. Republicans in KY like Mitch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (GBKbO)
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Romney replied, "I think a lot of people in this country are out of touch with reality and will accept anything Donald Trump tells them. You had a jury that said that Donald Trump raped a woman. And that doesn’t seem to be moving the needle. There’s a lot of things about today’s electorate that I have a hard time understanding."
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (RHGPo)
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They despise unprincipled eunuch scum like you? Now, what do I win?
I saw Unprincipled Eunuch Scum open for ...
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 12:59 PM (RHGPo)
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They despise unprincipled eunuch scum like you? Now, what do I win?
I saw Unprincipled Eunuch Scum open for ...
Posted by: ShainS at January 18, 2024 01:05 PM (+ZdIS)
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For $61 billion more we should own that dump. Plant the American flag, level the place and start building casinos.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:05 PM (v0R5T)
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Populism is mob rule in my opinion but sometimes the mob is right.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:05 PM (MNhXM)
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He could have also noted that the decreasing legitimacy of institutions is something that institutions have to counteract by becoming more legitimate and trustworthy, but he just laid the blame on the people.
Because elitist piece of shit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Perfect example of a oblivious and greedy oligarch and fitting example of a GOP senator.
The only difference in the Senate uniparty is that GOPe senators hate and disdain their voters and feel free to publicly announce it. Dem uniparty senators are afraid of their lefty voters and thus rarely insult them in public.
Because elitist piece of shit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Perfect example of a oblivious and greedy oligarch and fitting example of a GOP senator.
The only difference in the Senate uniparty is that GOPe senators hate and disdain their voters and feel free to publicly announce it. Dem uniparty senators are afraid of their lefty voters and thus rarely insult them in public.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (gvoQe)
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I think it's...bourbon. The overrepresentation of corn in the mash of all bourbons (by legal definition) creates this sameness to most bourbons that makes so many taste so similar.
It's one reason I prefer scotches: There's a greater variety.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:03 PM (GBKbO)
I can't argue with your taste buds. But to me, there are amazing variations in flavor from one mash bill to the next. Then the variations when you add ice. Or drink with chocolate.
Then there's rye.
I am amazed by the sheer flavors a bourbon has, personally. Most Scotch is too harsh and 'mediciney' to me. There are exceptions but not enough for me to chase Scotch over Bourbon.
It's one reason I prefer scotches: There's a greater variety.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:03 PM (GBKbO)
I can't argue with your taste buds. But to me, there are amazing variations in flavor from one mash bill to the next. Then the variations when you add ice. Or drink with chocolate.
Then there's rye.
I am amazed by the sheer flavors a bourbon has, personally. Most Scotch is too harsh and 'mediciney' to me. There are exceptions but not enough for me to chase Scotch over Bourbon.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (xcxpd)
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EV news from Chicago - Tesla owners are much more likely to be stranded in their vehicles if it's very, very cold.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (ogTiX)
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Funny story, I was trying to find my cocaiine pouch this morning, when I found it there was a gun in it, in addition to half a pound of blow
Posted by: N at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (3JYMN)
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The current average age of a Ukranian soldier:
43
Average? Geez, how much time do you have to put in before you get to start laundering money?
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Average? Geez, how much time do you have to put in before you get to start laundering money?
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (e1pHV)
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I'd love it if Speaker Johnson asked why the Biden's allowed journalist Gonzalo Lira to die in Ukrainian prison and why should we give more money to such an evil regime.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (fs1hN)
I don't know anything else about the man, but I do know if this was a just world, his name would be on the lips of every politician, similar to the manner in which they talked about St. George of Floyd.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 12:56 PM (fs1hN)
I don't know anything else about the man, but I do know if this was a just world, his name would be on the lips of every politician, similar to the manner in which they talked about St. George of Floyd.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (dGCAG)
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I would like to point out that after the Iowa caucus, Chip Roy looks like the ball sucking loser douchebag he really is. Do better Texas.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (eYF7X)
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"9 They’re doing this for a reason and I am still not totally clear on why. Cheap labor? Guaranteed Democratic votes? I can’t figure it out."
The answer is Collapse. As part of the Soviet Unions attempt to destroy America when it was still a think - part of that plan was to flood the country with migrants, and overwhelm its welfare system.
That, is what the goal is. Destroy the system so a new, 'progressive' one can be put in its place.
Weather everyone involved can articulate that or not, that is exactly what is being done and why.
The answer is Collapse. As part of the Soviet Unions attempt to destroy America when it was still a think - part of that plan was to flood the country with migrants, and overwhelm its welfare system.
That, is what the goal is. Destroy the system so a new, 'progressive' one can be put in its place.
Weather everyone involved can articulate that or not, that is exactly what is being done and why.
Posted by: FrozenTech at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (ESZMY)
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Democrats in Kentucky love Mitch.
Posted by: nckate at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (EPm6B)
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347 It's one reason I prefer scotches: There's a greater variety.
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Tastes ranges from dirt to peat and everything in between.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (fs1hN)
lol
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Tastes ranges from dirt to peat and everything in between.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 01:04 PM (fs1hN)
lol
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:07 PM (xcxpd)
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Populism is popular when the Emperor has no clothes. These dipshits haven't figured out that they need to put some pants on, instead of screaming at everyone how great their invisible clothes look.
In short, people don't look to populism when their ruling class is competent. This ain't it.
In short, people don't look to populism when their ruling class is competent. This ain't it.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:07 PM (5C4od)
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iirc, Rand Paul has his own independent campaign financing machine, unconnected to the RNC.
Posted by: davidt at January 18, 2024 01:07 PM (SYTee)
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353 Then there's rye.
I am amazed by the sheer flavors a bourbon has, personally. Most Scotch is too harsh and 'mediciney' to me. There are exceptions but not enough for me to chase Scotch over Bourbon.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (xcxpd)
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Objection: rye is not bourbon.
Rye is rye, the mash build is 100% rye.
I think rye is pretty good. It's never my first, but my sister (who lives in KY) keeps giving me rye for presents, and I never object.
I am amazed by the sheer flavors a bourbon has, personally. Most Scotch is too harsh and 'mediciney' to me. There are exceptions but not enough for me to chase Scotch over Bourbon.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (xcxpd)
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Objection: rye is not bourbon.
Rye is rye, the mash build is 100% rye.
I think rye is pretty good. It's never my first, but my sister (who lives in KY) keeps giving me rye for presents, and I never object.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:07 PM (GBKbO)
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358 I would like to point out that after the Iowa caucus, Chip Roy looks like the ball sucking loser douchebag he really is. Do better Texas.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (eYF7X)
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I know I don't want to hear it, but what did Chip Roy say or do?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (eYF7X)
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I know I don't want to hear it, but what did Chip Roy say or do?
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 18, 2024 01:07 PM (JeYYB)
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354 EV news from Chicago - Tesla owners are much more likely
Fwiw, Chicagoans are more frequently stranded by weather than non retards
Fwiw, Chicagoans are more frequently stranded by weather than non retards
Posted by: N at January 18, 2024 01:08 PM (3JYMN)
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Populism is mob rule in my opinion but sometimes the mob is right.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:05 PM (MNhXM)
Either we're a nation of citizens, and self rule, or we are not. What I've learned here, since the days of the Romney wars, is that a not small number of Republicans fear the idea of self-rule. To them, the problem isn't rule by the elites - but rather that the current batch of elites have went off the reservation.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:05 PM (MNhXM)
Either we're a nation of citizens, and self rule, or we are not. What I've learned here, since the days of the Romney wars, is that a not small number of Republicans fear the idea of self-rule. To them, the problem isn't rule by the elites - but rather that the current batch of elites have went off the reservation.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:08 PM (1/cvT)
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Populists start from the assumption that the people should get what they want from government.
I'm not opposed to that concept in theory. It's the specific flavor that concerns me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking
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Rhymes with Consent of the Governed.
Populists start from the assumption that the people should get what they want from government.
I'm not opposed to that concept in theory. It's the specific flavor that concerns me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking
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Rhymes with Consent of the Governed.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:08 PM (Wj/z9)
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Average? Geez, how much time do you have to put in before you get to start laundering money?
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (e1pHV)
Let's put it this way: In the Ukrainian army, you can put in for retirement after serving 5 years. The payment for retirees in the Ukrainian budget these past couple years? 0 dollars and 0 cents.
Posted by: t-bird at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (e1pHV)
Let's put it this way: In the Ukrainian army, you can put in for retirement after serving 5 years. The payment for retirees in the Ukrainian budget these past couple years? 0 dollars and 0 cents.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:08 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:08 PM (v0R5T)
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362 Populism is popular when the Emperor has no clothes. These dipshits haven't figured out that they need to put some pants on, instead of screaming at everyone how great their invisible clothes look.
In short, people don't look to populism when their ruling class is competent. This ain't it.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:07 PM (5C4od)
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That was one of the great things the book All the King's Men did very well:
It portrayed the previous power centers as deeply corrupt in very good detail. There was a reason that Talos was able to gain purchase with the voters: because they felt left behind.
In short, people don't look to populism when their ruling class is competent. This ain't it.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:07 PM (5C4od)
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That was one of the great things the book All the King's Men did very well:
It portrayed the previous power centers as deeply corrupt in very good detail. There was a reason that Talos was able to gain purchase with the voters: because they felt left behind.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
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>>I know I don't want to hear it, but what did Chip Roy say or do?
Posted by: Seems Legit
He's one of the many Meatball cockholsters.
Posted by: Seems Legit
He's one of the many Meatball cockholsters.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (eYF7X)
373
EV news from Chicago - Tesla owners are much more likely to be stranded in their vehicles if it's very, very cold.
Posted by: Oglebay
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(goes to find the article on this where the EV enthusiasts fill the comment section with posts insisting that most new cars struggle to crank and run in cold temperatures, too)
(one even says that the oil freezes up)
Posted by: Oglebay
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(goes to find the article on this where the EV enthusiasts fill the comment section with posts insisting that most new cars struggle to crank and run in cold temperatures, too)
(one even says that the oil freezes up)
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (+RC1q)
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I just wrote my Senator to request he publicly support Speaker Johnson’s position.
He’s been warned.
He’s been warned.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (MNhXM)
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Objection: rye is not bourbon.
Rye is rye, the mash build is 100% rye.
I think rye is pretty good. It's never my first, but my sister (who lives in KY) keeps giving me rye for presents, and I never object.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:07 PM (GBKbO)
I'm aware. It usually gets shelved with the bourbon for...reasons? Rye is more hit and miss with me but a good rye is really nice, flavor-wise.
Objection: rye is not bourbon.
Rye is rye, the mash build is 100% rye.
I think rye is pretty good. It's never my first, but my sister (who lives in KY) keeps giving me rye for presents, and I never object.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:07 PM (GBKbO)
I'm aware. It usually gets shelved with the bourbon for...reasons? Rye is more hit and miss with me but a good rye is really nice, flavor-wise.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (xcxpd)
376
McConnell gets reelected because he has a substantial amount of democrat votes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (BwMHy)
377
I miss Thailand some days
Oh, I am sorry, but we've already had the requisite day-long discussion of the fine point of that.
So maybe, the less said about Miss Thailand, the better. Kok having been Banged, so to speak.
Oh, I am sorry, but we've already had the requisite day-long discussion of the fine point of that.
So maybe, the less said about Miss Thailand, the better. Kok having been Banged, so to speak.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (zdLoL)
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>>370 Stefanik is the whip
.....
I find that strangely erotic.
Posted by: wth
Only is she's in leather and heels.
.....
I find that strangely erotic.
Posted by: wth
Only is she's in leather and heels.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 01:10 PM (eYF7X)
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The very idea that if we don't send a few more billion then 'all the Ukrainians die an Putin wins' is crap anyway.
PUTIN IS ALREADY WINNING. Sending money just makes him win slower.
If we STOP the fire hose of corrupt graft, then Zelensky will have to actually negotiate for peace.
As it stands now, unless NATO and the US send troops, Putin will hold the territory he has already taken, and slowly take more. PERIOD.
So anybody that whines about YOU WANT PUTIN TO WIN, unless they are arguing to send troops, is ALSO arguing for Putin to win, just slower, and with them getting a cut of the graft.
PUTIN IS ALREADY WINNING. Sending money just makes him win slower.
If we STOP the fire hose of corrupt graft, then Zelensky will have to actually negotiate for peace.
As it stands now, unless NATO and the US send troops, Putin will hold the territory he has already taken, and slowly take more. PERIOD.
So anybody that whines about YOU WANT PUTIN TO WIN, unless they are arguing to send troops, is ALSO arguing for Putin to win, just slower, and with them getting a cut of the graft.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 18, 2024 01:10 PM (setIA)
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And there are lots of ryes that aren't 100% rye. A rye just has to be 51%+ rye in the mash bill
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:10 PM (xcxpd)
381
The answer is Collapse. As part of the Soviet Unions attempt to destroy America when it was still a think - part of that plan was to flood the country with migrants, and overwhelm its welfare system.
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Also some politician in IIRC NY gave the short-term game away and outright said "I need more illegals for my House district"
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Also some politician in IIRC NY gave the short-term game away and outright said "I need more illegals for my House district"
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:10 PM (+RC1q)
382
Grimes is EXACTLY who I was talking about initially there... if she were to have beaten Mitch, she'd have been on the national stage majorly because she could actually fake not-crazy for twenty minutes at a stretch, but was to the left of Hilary Clinton. Amy McGrath's military background would have made her useful for the Dems too, if she could have won. Both were DANGEROUS, and we voted them down, because we HAD to.
As for Beshear, the fact that he's relatively subtle in his idiocy, his competition the first time was a genuine psychopath who never should have been allowed INTO the state, much less been Governor in retrospect, his name recognition, and the abortion issue combined with the 1% or so of rural voters that wouldn't go for Cameron because he was African-American has kept him in power. (My wife insists that people were impressed with his daily COVID roadshow, but I refuse to believe people were THAT stupid.)
As for Beshear, the fact that he's relatively subtle in his idiocy, his competition the first time was a genuine psychopath who never should have been allowed INTO the state, much less been Governor in retrospect, his name recognition, and the abortion issue combined with the 1% or so of rural voters that wouldn't go for Cameron because he was African-American has kept him in power. (My wife insists that people were impressed with his daily COVID roadshow, but I refuse to believe people were THAT stupid.)
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (rM26B)
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>>>I can't think, in the last twenty years, of a single candidate put up against Mitch McConnell that wasn't bat-shit crazy.
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That's what the locals do. They are in cahoots with the national e.
That's why we get crappy senators all over the US.
It's the primaries stupid. The only way to control this is to engage at the precinct and filibuster.
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That's what the locals do. They are in cahoots with the national e.
That's why we get crappy senators all over the US.
It's the primaries stupid. The only way to control this is to engage at the precinct and filibuster.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (Wj/z9)
384
For $61 billion more we should own that dump. Plant the American flag, level the place and start building casinos.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:05 PM (v0R5T)
That's the problem, we did that already.
Only not casinos. Bio and chemical weapons labs.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:05 PM (v0R5T)
That's the problem, we did that already.
Only not casinos. Bio and chemical weapons labs.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (dGCAG)
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That, is what the goal is. Destroy the system so a new, 'progressive' one can be put in its place.
Weather everyone involved can articulate that or not, that is exactly what is being done and why.
Posted by: FrozenTech at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (ESZMY)
There is an argument by Luongo and the like that the collapse is the final step to implementing a central bank digital currency, and may freeze out the big banks and the FED.
Weather everyone involved can articulate that or not, that is exactly what is being done and why.
Posted by: FrozenTech at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (ESZMY)
There is an argument by Luongo and the like that the collapse is the final step to implementing a central bank digital currency, and may freeze out the big banks and the FED.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (D7oie)
386
Ukraine is a black hole that sucks up US taxpayer dollars
personally, I don't GAF about Ukraine. Russia has no territorial ambitions* beyond the continent of Eurasia. China does. We should be getting Taiwan ready for what's coming.
I despise the Congress of the United States.
*Unless I'm wrong.™
personally, I don't GAF about Ukraine. Russia has no territorial ambitions* beyond the continent of Eurasia. China does. We should be getting Taiwan ready for what's coming.
I despise the Congress of the United States.
*Unless I'm wrong.™
Posted by: Don Black at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (+RC1q)
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375 I'm aware. It usually gets shelved with the bourbon for...reasons? Rye is more hit and miss with me but a good rye is really nice, flavor-wise.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (xcxpd)
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Both American, probably, though I think Canadians make more ryes than American distilleries.
The most recent was Bulliet's rye. It's nice. And my dad bought me Angel's Envy. And I bought myself a bottle of Writer's Tears (an Irish whiskey). We re-upped our whiskeys since we moved, and I am happy again.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (xcxpd)
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Both American, probably, though I think Canadians make more ryes than American distilleries.
The most recent was Bulliet's rye. It's nice. And my dad bought me Angel's Envy. And I bought myself a bottle of Writer's Tears (an Irish whiskey). We re-upped our whiskeys since we moved, and I am happy again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)
389
Does bearing false witness not count as sin when it's against Trump?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (kSHhA)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (FVME7)
391
That was one of the great things the book All the King's Men did very well:
It portrayed the previous power centers as deeply corrupt in very good detail. There was a reason that Talos was able to gain purchase with the voters: because they felt left behind.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
Corruption is one thing - all governments are corrupt to one degree or another. After all, they are made up of imperfect humans. What kills any regime - monarchical, republican, communist - is a lack of competency. Also known as the "Mandate of Heaven" or "Institutional Trust".
It portrayed the previous power centers as deeply corrupt in very good detail. There was a reason that Talos was able to gain purchase with the voters: because they felt left behind.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
Corruption is one thing - all governments are corrupt to one degree or another. After all, they are made up of imperfect humans. What kills any regime - monarchical, republican, communist - is a lack of competency. Also known as the "Mandate of Heaven" or "Institutional Trust".
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:12 PM (5C4od)
392
EV news from Chicago - Tesla owners are much more likely to be stranded in their vehicles if it's very, very cold.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (ogTiX)
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Moar polar vortex please
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 01:06 PM (ogTiX)
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Moar polar vortex please
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:12 PM (v0R5T)
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Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:08 PM (1/cvT)
We are a supposed to be a Republican form of government not a direct democracy for a reason.
We are a supposed to be a Republican form of government not a direct democracy for a reason.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:12 PM (MNhXM)
394
Pulls into charging station near the end of my EV's 180 mile range (out of 320 advertised range) only to find charging stations down because it's cold. Yeah, but your ICE vehicle is hard to start if you leave it outside overnight in this weather.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 01:12 PM (ogTiX)
395
McConnell gets reelected because he has a substantial amount of democrat votes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (BwMHy)
If by Democrat votes you mean he cheats, just like the Democrats, then yes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (BwMHy)
If by Democrat votes you mean he cheats, just like the Democrats, then yes.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (dGCAG)
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395 McConnell gets reelected because he has a substantial amount of democrat votes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (BwMHy)
If by Democrat votes you mean he cheats, just like the Democrats, then yes.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (dGCAG)
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This doesn't explain him winning his last primary by 76 points.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 18, 2024 01:09 PM (BwMHy)
If by Democrat votes you mean he cheats, just like the Democrats, then yes.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (dGCAG)
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This doesn't explain him winning his last primary by 76 points.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
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That's what the locals do. They are in cahoots with the national e.
That's why we get crappy senators all over the US.
It's the primaries stupid. The only way to control this is to engage at the precinct and filibuster.
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Repeal the 17th Amendment!!
*shakes fist at clouds*
That's why we get crappy senators all over the US.
It's the primaries stupid. The only way to control this is to engage at the precinct and filibuster.
___
Repeal the 17th Amendment!!
*shakes fist at clouds*
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (fs1hN)
398
The most recent was Bulliet's rye. It's nice. And my dad bought me Angel's Envy. And I bought myself a bottle of Writer's Tears (an Irish whiskey). We re-upped our whiskeys since we moved, and I am happy again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)
We have all three in our kitchen. I use Bulliet Rye to introduce new drinkers to rye. It's good.
The wife loves Writer's Tears.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)
We have all three in our kitchen. I use Bulliet Rye to introduce new drinkers to rye. It's good.
The wife loves Writer's Tears.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (xcxpd)
399
Chip's aRoy is a piece of shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 18, 2024 01:14 PM (R4t5M)
400
Well, oligarchy IS the natural tendency of republics. The question is whether one can keep it under some control.
Posted by: Eeyore
Without being yoked to accountability and perpetual reform, all forms of government become corrupt. Our Republic is dying because those that grab power are no longer accountable.
Posted by: Eeyore
Without being yoked to accountability and perpetual reform, all forms of government become corrupt. Our Republic is dying because those that grab power are no longer accountable.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 18, 2024 01:14 PM (IG4Id)
401
Amen. Walk away.
Posted by: setnaffa at January 18, 2024 01:14 PM (OiczO)
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That, is what the goal is. Destroy the system so a new, 'progressive' one can be put in its place.
I truly do not think so. Maybe a George Soros - but not your typical Liberal from the poorest of classes or the richest. The least or best connected.
This is dogma, pure and simple. And it really helps me to think of it in Religious terms. Truly faithful folk ignore cause and effect sometimes, because this world is simply an audition for the next one to them.
And that's what today's Liberal is. They, frankly, don't give a damn about cause and effect. They're doing what they do because - to them - it's simply "right".
I don't believe there is a master plan to destroy America - and it would be easier to deal with these bastards if a plan existed. Nope. They are doing all this, I am convinced, out of faith. Not even a faith based on a notion of eternal bliss after death. And that makes them really, really dangerous.
I truly do not think so. Maybe a George Soros - but not your typical Liberal from the poorest of classes or the richest. The least or best connected.
This is dogma, pure and simple. And it really helps me to think of it in Religious terms. Truly faithful folk ignore cause and effect sometimes, because this world is simply an audition for the next one to them.
And that's what today's Liberal is. They, frankly, don't give a damn about cause and effect. They're doing what they do because - to them - it's simply "right".
I don't believe there is a master plan to destroy America - and it would be easier to deal with these bastards if a plan existed. Nope. They are doing all this, I am convinced, out of faith. Not even a faith based on a notion of eternal bliss after death. And that makes them really, really dangerous.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:14 PM (1/cvT)
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Delusional "Squad" Rep. Bowman Wants $14 Trillion in Reparations
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Let me get my checkbook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (FVME7)
I mean, why not. 34 trillion, 48 trillion. At this point, what difference does it make.
Everyone can put a chandelier on their El Dorado. It's all good.
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Let me get my checkbook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (FVME7)
I mean, why not. 34 trillion, 48 trillion. At this point, what difference does it make.
Everyone can put a chandelier on their El Dorado. It's all good.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:14 PM (dGCAG)
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398 We have all three in our kitchen. I use Bulliet Rye to introduce new drinkers to rye. It's good.
The wife loves Writer's Tears.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (xcxpd)
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We got Writer's Tears in a Flaviar box was back in the day when it was a good subscription box, and it quickly became my favorite Irish whiskey.
Dolley's is Roe and Co. We couldn't find either in Charleston, but the local ABC store in NC has both, $40 and $30 each. It's nice to have those easy to get.
The wife loves Writer's Tears.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (xcxpd)
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We got Writer's Tears in a Flaviar box was back in the day when it was a good subscription box, and it quickly became my favorite Irish whiskey.
Dolley's is Roe and Co. We couldn't find either in Charleston, but the local ABC store in NC has both, $40 and $30 each. It's nice to have those easy to get.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:15 PM (GBKbO)
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372 >>I know I don't want to hear it, but what did Chip Roy say or do?
Posted by: Seems Legit
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He's a stealth Rhino.
Down in TX he was a proponent, a backer of Ken Paxton being impeached. Sounds like a Bushie to me.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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He's a stealth Rhino.
Down in TX he was a proponent, a backer of Ken Paxton being impeached. Sounds like a Bushie to me.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:15 PM (Wj/z9)
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Delusional "Squad" Rep. Bowman Wants $14 Trillion in Reparations
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Let me get my checkbook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024
Too bad Biden already sent all our money to Ukraine
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Let me get my checkbook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024
Too bad Biden already sent all our money to Ukraine
Posted by: LASue at January 18, 2024 01:15 PM (Ed8Zd)
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390 Delusional "Squad" Rep. Bowman Wants $14 Trillion in Reparations
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Let me get my checkbook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (FVME7)
Reparations is the payoff that will make it OK that dems ejected blacks from the top of the grievance hierarchy in favor of illegals.
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Let me get my checkbook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (FVME7)
Reparations is the payoff that will make it OK that dems ejected blacks from the top of the grievance hierarchy in favor of illegals.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 18, 2024 01:15 PM (KbCG3)
408
"Also some politician in IIRC NY gave the short-term game away and outright said "I need more illegals for my House district"
Thats likely less for pure votes, and more to make sure the district remains where it is as we don't count population by *citizens* just by residents. New York is in danger of losing some House seats due to a massive outflow of residents. If we counted citizens and only citizens mattered for maintaining house seats the entire make up of the House of Representatives would shift a bit.
Thats likely less for pure votes, and more to make sure the district remains where it is as we don't count population by *citizens* just by residents. New York is in danger of losing some House seats due to a massive outflow of residents. If we counted citizens and only citizens mattered for maintaining house seats the entire make up of the House of Representatives would shift a bit.
Posted by: FrozenTech at January 18, 2024 01:16 PM (ESZMY)
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This doesn't explain him winning his last primary by 76 points.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
Sure it does. He's the capo. He's the mob boss. How many underlings in the crime family are going to challenge the boss? None, unless they have a clear shot at killing him.
Otherwise it's political suicide.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
Sure it does. He's the capo. He's the mob boss. How many underlings in the crime family are going to challenge the boss? None, unless they have a clear shot at killing him.
Otherwise it's political suicide.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:16 PM (dGCAG)
410
The Dems had no trouble cutting off all funds to South Vietnam so their communist brethren could take over almost immediately. The South Vietnam Army was actually making ground after our withdrawal with our funding. Unlike Ukraine.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:16 PM (MNhXM)
411
"If you won't defend the US border, then let the Russians stage their own massive unchecked invasion across Ukraine's."
My contention since day one.
My contention since day one.
Posted by: fd at January 18, 2024 01:16 PM (vFG9F)
412
Vidkun Quisling would like his reputation back.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 18, 2024 01:16 PM (VhSqk)
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382 Grimes is EXACTLY who I was talking about initially there... if she were to have beaten Mitch, she'd have been on the national stage majorly because she could actually fake not-crazy for twenty minutes at a stretch, but was to the left of Hilary Clinton. Amy McGrath's military background would have made her useful for the Dems too, if she could have won. Both were DANGEROUS, and we voted them down, because we HAD to.
As for Beshear, the fact that he's relatively subtle in his idiocy, his competition the first time was a genuine psychopath who never should have been allowed INTO the state, much less been Governor in retrospect, his name recognition, and the abortion issue combined with the 1% or so of rural voters that wouldn't go for Cameron because he was African-American has kept him in power. (My wife insists that people were impressed with his daily COVID roadshow, but I refuse to believe people were THAT stupid.)
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (rM26B)
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A McGrath wins versus McConnell would have had zero practical impact on Senate legislation.
A McConnell loss OTOH would have at least given some other GOP senator to be minority leader.
As for Beshear, the fact that he's relatively subtle in his idiocy, his competition the first time was a genuine psychopath who never should have been allowed INTO the state, much less been Governor in retrospect, his name recognition, and the abortion issue combined with the 1% or so of rural voters that wouldn't go for Cameron because he was African-American has kept him in power. (My wife insists that people were impressed with his daily COVID roadshow, but I refuse to believe people were THAT stupid.)
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (rM26B)
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A McGrath wins versus McConnell would have had zero practical impact on Senate legislation.
A McConnell loss OTOH would have at least given some other GOP senator to be minority leader.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (cMXNt)
414
what immigration problem ? We are getting chinese girls with tits.
Posted by: yoeman at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (j1QfB)
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We are a supposed to be a Republican form of government not a direct democracy for a reason.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:12 PM (MNhXM)
Yes, fear of a tyranny of the majority weighed on the founders. Unfortunately, we now have a tyranny of the minority - when mixed with blatant incompetence breeds - you guessed it - populism.
Again, the onus is on the ruling class to reform itself or be swept away by the tide of rising populism. My money is on the populists - eventually.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:12 PM (MNhXM)
Yes, fear of a tyranny of the majority weighed on the founders. Unfortunately, we now have a tyranny of the minority - when mixed with blatant incompetence breeds - you guessed it - populism.
Again, the onus is on the ruling class to reform itself or be swept away by the tide of rising populism. My money is on the populists - eventually.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (5C4od)
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409 This doesn't explain him winning his last primary by 76 points.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
Sure it does. He's the capo. He's the mob boss. How many underlings in the crime family are going to challenge the boss? None, unless they have a clear shot at killing him.
Otherwise it's political suicide.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:16 PM (dGCAG)
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Hell, Graham only won his last primary by 50 points in SC.
76 is a mandate from Republicans, especially when McConnell had 5 opponents on the ballot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
Sure it does. He's the capo. He's the mob boss. How many underlings in the crime family are going to challenge the boss? None, unless they have a clear shot at killing him.
Otherwise it's political suicide.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:16 PM (dGCAG)
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Hell, Graham only won his last primary by 50 points in SC.
76 is a mandate from Republicans, especially when McConnell had 5 opponents on the ballot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (GBKbO)
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382 Grimes is EXACTLY who I was talking about initially there... if she were to have beaten Mitch, she'd have been on the national stage majorly because she could actually fake not-crazy for twenty minutes at a stretch, but was to the left of Hilary Clinton. Amy McGrath's military background would have made her useful for the Dems too, if she could have won. Both were DANGEROUS, and we voted them down, because we HAD to.
As for Beshear, the fact that he's relatively subtle in his idiocy, his competition the first time was a genuine psychopath who never should have been allowed INTO the state, much less been Governor in retrospect, his name recognition, and the abortion issue combined with the 1% or so of rural voters that wouldn't go for Cameron because he was African-American has kept him in power. (My wife insists that people were impressed with his daily COVID roadshow, but I refuse to believe people were THAT stupid.)
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (rM26B)
That's fair, I guess
As for Beshear, the fact that he's relatively subtle in his idiocy, his competition the first time was a genuine psychopath who never should have been allowed INTO the state, much less been Governor in retrospect, his name recognition, and the abortion issue combined with the 1% or so of rural voters that wouldn't go for Cameron because he was African-American has kept him in power. (My wife insists that people were impressed with his daily COVID roadshow, but I refuse to believe people were THAT stupid.)
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:11 PM (rM26B)
That's fair, I guess
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (xcxpd)
418
How does Romney manage to suck himself off?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (kSHhA)
419
Again, note that Mitch's last REAL primary was against Matt Bevin, who was as Bushie as they came, and, as it turned out, genuinely psychopathic when he responded to his gubernatorial loss by pardoning every murderer and sex offender he could find and releasing them into the state out of spite. The one after him, Wesley Morgan, was an ATF agent who endorsed the Democrat out of pique when he'd lost re-election to the statehouse. Yeah, too many of us bought the "Cocaine Mitch" bit, but his "love" is a micrometer deep. If he got a primary candidate running against him that wasn't as bad as he was, or somehow impossibly worse, he'd lose. Or if we could figure out how to trick Indiana into taking Louisville, which I've been trying for years now...
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (rM26B)
420
EV news from Chicago - Tesla owners are much more likely to be stranded in their vehicles if it's very, very cold.
Posted by: Oglebay
Virginia Democrats uphold state's EV mandate despite growing opposition: 'Defy common sense'
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Because fuck reality!
Posted by: Oglebay
Virginia Democrats uphold state's EV mandate despite growing opposition: 'Defy common sense'
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Because fuck reality!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (FVME7)
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390 Delusional "Squad" Rep. Bowman Wants $14 Trillion in Reparations
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Let me get my checkbook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
He can have my reparations. It's just that he's going to have to get them from the descendants of the Romans, Huns, Mongols, and Ottomans. I would only require that he film every attempt he makes to get them.
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Let me get my checkbook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
He can have my reparations. It's just that he's going to have to get them from the descendants of the Romans, Huns, Mongols, and Ottomans. I would only require that he film every attempt he makes to get them.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (IG4Id)
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Repeal the 17th Amendment!!
*shakes fist at clouds*
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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More effectively, vote in the primary then GO to the local meeting afterwards and filibuster. Take as many like minded people you know into this scenario. This is how the platform is built. This is how the primary candidates are picked.
Repeal the 17th Amendment!!
*shakes fist at clouds*
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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More effectively, vote in the primary then GO to the local meeting afterwards and filibuster. Take as many like minded people you know into this scenario. This is how the platform is built. This is how the primary candidates are picked.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (Wj/z9)
423
Much of the harshness and vitriol in this Thread is unseemly.
Posted by: Pierre Delecto at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (a3Q+t)
424
I don't want ALL the Ukranians to die. There's got to be a few decent mail order brides left.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:19 PM (v0R5T)
425
414 what immigration problem ? We are getting chinese girls with tits.
Posted by: yoeman at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (j1QfB)
If all our illegal immigrants were big titted asian chicks, I would not be complaining.
Posted by: yoeman at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (j1QfB)
If all our illegal immigrants were big titted asian chicks, I would not be complaining.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:19 PM (xcxpd)
426
Secure the border first, then we'll talk about reform.
Posted by: BignJames at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (AwYPR)
Secure the border first
The round up all illegals and deport them
Then appoint 1200 new conservative judges to clear the asylum backlog
Then streamline the immigration process while stiffening penalties for coyotes and smugglers ( death or life in prison come to mind).
Change birthright citizenship to exvlude those born of anyone in the country illegally or temporarily
Posted by: BignJames at January 18, 2024 12:13 PM (AwYPR)
Secure the border first
The round up all illegals and deport them
Then appoint 1200 new conservative judges to clear the asylum backlog
Then streamline the immigration process while stiffening penalties for coyotes and smugglers ( death or life in prison come to mind).
Change birthright citizenship to exvlude those born of anyone in the country illegally or temporarily
Posted by: LASue at January 18, 2024 01:19 PM (Ed8Zd)
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413 A McGrath wins versus McConnell would have had zero practical impact on Senate legislation.
A McConnell loss OTOH would have at least given some other GOP senator to be minority leader.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (cMXNt)
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We'd have Thune, who would suck, but might be less good at the whole game while probably mismanaging things and opening up political holes within the Senate for an opposition candidate to win the caucus leadership.
Or he'd have been an amazing manager and squeezed the last bit of ideological purity from even Rand Paul.
I dunno.
A McConnell loss OTOH would have at least given some other GOP senator to be minority leader.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (cMXNt)
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We'd have Thune, who would suck, but might be less good at the whole game while probably mismanaging things and opening up political holes within the Senate for an opposition candidate to win the caucus leadership.
Or he'd have been an amazing manager and squeezed the last bit of ideological purity from even Rand Paul.
I dunno.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Or if we could figure out how to trick Indiana into taking Louisville, which I've been trying for years now...
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (rM26B)
Remember the Make Kentucky Great Again tees with the wall around Louisville ? I should have bought one.
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (rM26B)
Remember the Make Kentucky Great Again tees with the wall around Louisville ? I should have bought one.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:19 PM (1/cvT)
429
McConnell is, in my view, Public Enemy #1. Wearing a GOP lapel pin, he is not much different than a German soldier in WWII wearing an American uniform in order to carry out sabotage.
Posted by: Paco at January 18, 2024 01:20 PM (njExo)
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Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (5C4od)
I think the problem is that we moved closer to a direct democracy system and the msm made the average voter more ignorant of the truth. I think we’ve been in a populist voting mode for a long time.
I think the problem is that we moved closer to a direct democracy system and the msm made the average voter more ignorant of the truth. I think we’ve been in a populist voting mode for a long time.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:20 PM (MNhXM)
431
If we counted citizens and only citizens mattered for maintaining house seats the entire make up of the House of Representatives would shift a bit.
Posted by: FrozenTech
It would move the needle more than a bit. Fifteen percent of the US population is illegal, and at least three quarters of them are in urban districts.
Posted by: FrozenTech
It would move the needle more than a bit. Fifteen percent of the US population is illegal, and at least three quarters of them are in urban districts.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 18, 2024 01:20 PM (BwMHy)
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Hell, Graham only won his last primary by 50 points in SC.
76 is a mandate from Republicans, especially when McConnell had 5 opponents on the ballot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (GBKbO)
He had zero opponents on the ballot. He had 5 tomato cans on the ballot.
I shouldn't have to explain this.
76 is a mandate from Republicans, especially when McConnell had 5 opponents on the ballot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (GBKbO)
He had zero opponents on the ballot. He had 5 tomato cans on the ballot.
I shouldn't have to explain this.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:20 PM (dGCAG)
433
Southern indiana got the fuck out of Louisville in the 1970s. I think they'll let Jeff Co. keep the west end crew.
Posted by: nckate at January 18, 2024 01:21 PM (EPm6B)
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I think the problem is that we moved closer to a direct democracy system and the msm made the average voter more ignorant of the truth. I think we’ve been in a populist voting mode for a long time.
Regardless of what the Founders did or did not intend, it's turned out that the 10th Amendment wasn't worth the paper it was written on. And I'm tired of one party embracing mob rule while the other constantly urges restraint.
Regardless of what the Founders did or did not intend, it's turned out that the 10th Amendment wasn't worth the paper it was written on. And I'm tired of one party embracing mob rule while the other constantly urges restraint.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:21 PM (1/cvT)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 18, 2024 01:22 PM (VhSqk)
436
Don't forget McConnels commie bitch wife. You dont just get to leave China. Especially if rich.
Posted by: DOYLE at January 18, 2024 01:22 PM (Z8Yh2)
437
We got Writer's Tears in a Flaviar box was back in the day when it was a good subscription box, and it quickly became my favorite Irish whiskey.
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Tullamore Dew is worth a try if you never have.
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Tullamore Dew is worth a try if you never have.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:22 PM (+RC1q)
438
I would agree with a reparations plan that would provide a reparation figure in exchange for emigrating to another country and giving up your American citizenship for life.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:22 PM (MNhXM)
439
And Trump announced he's going to be dictator for a day, once reelected.
To which I say, "Why just one day, Mr. President?"
To which I say, "Why just one day, Mr. President?"
Posted by: red speck at January 18, 2024 01:22 PM (0Id0S)
440
How does Romney manage to suck himself off?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (kSHhA)
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the magic underpants?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (kSHhA)
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the magic underpants?
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (v0R5T)
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432 He had zero opponents on the ballot. He had 5 tomato cans on the ballot.
I shouldn't have to explain this.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:20 PM (dGCAG)
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If Republicans in KY didn't like Mitch, they'd vote for someone else in the primary against him. They do it in numbers to send at least a message. It didn't matter if they had never heard of the opposition.
So, KY is either full of Republicans who actually don't mind Mitch and what he's doing, or their so dull that they only vote for names they recognize.
I shouldn't have to explain this.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:20 PM (dGCAG)
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If Republicans in KY didn't like Mitch, they'd vote for someone else in the primary against him. They do it in numbers to send at least a message. It didn't matter if they had never heard of the opposition.
So, KY is either full of Republicans who actually don't mind Mitch and what he's doing, or their so dull that they only vote for names they recognize.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (GBKbO)
442
I would take 5 Thunes over one McTurtle.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (eYF7X)
443
Her left boob is chilly but the right one is not?
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (v0R5T)
The AC vent in that room is on the left...
Her left boob is chilly but the right one is not?
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 12:41 PM (v0R5T)
The AC vent in that room is on the left...
Posted by: Zombie Isadora Duncan at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (n+4am)
444
John Cornyn is isolating himself. I have called almost every Cornyn office in DC and Texas and they are not answering calls, only allow a message to be left.
Chickenshit Cornyn is obviously going to sell us out.
Chickenshit Cornyn is obviously going to sell us out.
Posted by: DanMan at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (8uzBS)
445
Yes, fear of a tyranny of the majority weighed on the founders. Unfortunately, we now have a tyranny of the minority - when mixed with blatant incompetence breeds - you guessed it - populism.
Again, the onus is on the ruling class to reform itself or be swept away by the tide of rising populism. My money is on the populists - eventually.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (5C4od)
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The Founders were not altruistic. They were the “elite” oligarchs of the day and no form of government was going to pass muster if it didn’t protect their interests.
Then after it passed they spent decades ingraining into the American public’s mind that it was the best form of government ever devised by man, even blessed by God.
Again, the onus is on the ruling class to reform itself or be swept away by the tide of rising populism. My money is on the populists - eventually.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (5C4od)
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The Founders were not altruistic. They were the “elite” oligarchs of the day and no form of government was going to pass muster if it didn’t protect their interests.
Then after it passed they spent decades ingraining into the American public’s mind that it was the best form of government ever devised by man, even blessed by God.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (cMXNt)
446
GOP rep Troy Nehls in a CNa. interview that he is unwilling to pass bills to increase border patrol funding because it might help to improve Biden's approval ratings
Posted by: Paul banned at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (wNRp3)
447
Hey! I saw the article on the economy the other day!
Get your reporting right, or YOU AIN'T BLACK!
Get your reporting right, or YOU AIN'T BLACK!
Posted by: Anonymous White House Crank at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (krQz2)
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"I don't believe there is a master plan to destroy America - and it would be easier to deal with these bastards if a plan existed. Nope. They are doing all this, I am convinced, out of faith. Not even a faith based on a notion of eternal bliss after death. And that makes them really, really dangerous."
You aren't wrong. But the majority of the 'right think' of the Progressive Left comes from Soviet propaganda. They don't know that, and the professors that taught them that likely don't realize that they were taught by either first or second generation communists who's job *was* to destabilize this country.
We won the Cold War.
But the Soviets long plan kept running without anyone at the helm. And it works. Its not a big conspiracy. Its a destruction of moral fabric, and culture.
That, was the plan. It came to fruition decades after the people that created it died and went off to hell and their own country collapsed
The people who are driving the bus now aren't secret soviet spies or something, they're just people who have been taught a lie, have turned it into dogma.
That is what I mean.
You aren't wrong. But the majority of the 'right think' of the Progressive Left comes from Soviet propaganda. They don't know that, and the professors that taught them that likely don't realize that they were taught by either first or second generation communists who's job *was* to destabilize this country.
We won the Cold War.
But the Soviets long plan kept running without anyone at the helm. And it works. Its not a big conspiracy. Its a destruction of moral fabric, and culture.
That, was the plan. It came to fruition decades after the people that created it died and went off to hell and their own country collapsed
The people who are driving the bus now aren't secret soviet spies or something, they're just people who have been taught a lie, have turned it into dogma.
That is what I mean.
Posted by: FrozenTech at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (ESZMY)
449
Waves scarf at errant sock
Waves scarf at errant sock
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (n+4am)
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438 I would agree with a reparations plan that would provide a reparation figure in exchange for emigrating to another country and giving up your American citizenship for life.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:22 PM (MNhXM)
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Me too.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:22 PM (MNhXM)
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Me too.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (cMXNt)
451
Tullamore Dew is worth a try if you never have.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:22 PM (+RC1q)
Lisbeth Salander’s favorite
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:22 PM (+RC1q)
Lisbeth Salander’s favorite
Posted by: Oglebay at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (ogTiX)
452
"I want to remind everybody of the importance of Ukraine.”
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Ukraine is not important to America at all.
Posted by: Jay in PA
He just didn't finish the sentence. "I want to remind everybody of the importance of Ukraine to the American political grifting class who benefit from this with the added bonus of hiding the shit-ton of grifting and money laundering we have so enjoyed over the years." So pay up you ungrateful taxpayers.
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Ukraine is not important to America at all.
Posted by: Jay in PA
He just didn't finish the sentence. "I want to remind everybody of the importance of Ukraine to the American political grifting class who benefit from this with the added bonus of hiding the shit-ton of grifting and money laundering we have so enjoyed over the years." So pay up you ungrateful taxpayers.
Posted by: Cheri at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (oiNtH)
453
People in KY like Mitch because he brings a ton of money to the state courtesy of the US taxpayers
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (/Mbcg)
454
GOP rep Troy Nehls in a CNa. interview that he is unwilling to pass bills to increase border patrol funding because it might help to improve Biden's approval ratings
Posted by: Paul banned
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Fine.
And the border is plenty funded. Funding isnt the problem.
Enforce the law. It costs nothing.
Posted by: Paul banned
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Fine.
And the border is plenty funded. Funding isnt the problem.
Enforce the law. It costs nothing.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (+RC1q)
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I don't want ALL the Ukranians to die. There's got to be a few decent mail order brides left.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:19 PM (v0R5T)
The lie changed mid-course, of course. First we were there to save Ukraine. Then we were there to bleed Russia.
Well, we sure did make things harder for Russia, but what we really accomplished was massive amounts of Ukrainian blood to be spilled.
And Russia isn't even remotely close to getting tired of winning. They have hundreds of thousands of military men they could send if, if they wanted to. Which they don't. Their economy is booming. They have all the weapons and ammo they could possibly need (we don't, by the way).
It would be hard to imagine how this thing could have gone any worse... if the plan was to help Ukraine.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:19 PM (v0R5T)
The lie changed mid-course, of course. First we were there to save Ukraine. Then we were there to bleed Russia.
Well, we sure did make things harder for Russia, but what we really accomplished was massive amounts of Ukrainian blood to be spilled.
And Russia isn't even remotely close to getting tired of winning. They have hundreds of thousands of military men they could send if, if they wanted to. Which they don't. Their economy is booming. They have all the weapons and ammo they could possibly need (we don't, by the way).
It would be hard to imagine how this thing could have gone any worse... if the plan was to help Ukraine.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (dGCAG)
456
If McConnell is replaced by a loon we will have one more loon in the senate.
But that loon will not be head of the senate minority he'll be a npc.
But that loon will not be head of the senate minority he'll be a npc.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:25 PM (Wj/z9)
457
*suddenly has visions of the time the cloning machine went haywire on Naga Serpent*
The laughing in multi-sonic stereo...
The laughing in multi-sonic stereo...
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 18, 2024 01:25 PM (VhSqk)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but did not FJB and his Confederacy of Dunces basically give Russia the green light to invade Ukraine a year or two ago?
Correct me if I am wrong, but did not FJB and his Confederacy of Dunces basically give Russia the green light to invade Ukraine a year or two ago?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 18, 2024 01:25 PM (xG4kz)
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I'll agree that McGrath vs. Mitch wouldn't have been much different on the day-to-day basis. McGrath spinning out that victory into being an "electable" Dem nationally was scarier than Mitch to most of us though. *shudders*
Bottom line, we expect Mitch to die of old age/disease/substance abuse issues before he can hurt us MUCH more, and we kinda appreciated him holding the line on Merrick Garland, which was CLEARLY worth something, now that he's clearly outed himself as Laverenty Beria's reincarnation. But elect a Dem to Senate for KY that has national ambitions and adds to the Dem bench, we start to worry that they'll do some damage.
Bottom line, we expect Mitch to die of old age/disease/substance abuse issues before he can hurt us MUCH more, and we kinda appreciated him holding the line on Merrick Garland, which was CLEARLY worth something, now that he's clearly outed himself as Laverenty Beria's reincarnation. But elect a Dem to Senate for KY that has national ambitions and adds to the Dem bench, we start to worry that they'll do some damage.
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:25 PM (rM26B)
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Posted by: Paul banned at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (wNRp3)
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So, the immigration issue that Biden himself created is affecting him negatively?
Maybe Biden should consider using the existing powers and resources he has to help. You know, like Trump had to do.
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So, the immigration issue that Biden himself created is affecting him negatively?
Maybe Biden should consider using the existing powers and resources he has to help. You know, like Trump had to do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)
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>>> what immigration problem ? We are getting chinese girls with tits.
Posted by: yoeman at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (j1QfB)
If all our illegal immigrants were big titted asian chicks, I would not be complaining.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:19 PM (xcxpd)
The typical roof replacement job would be a lot more interesting. "So how old did you you say your roof was Mr. Dream sir?"
"About five months, lots of rain though,... and squirrel attacks, I saw a very heavy looking crow up their last week, absolute unit..."
(puts down lawn chair, beer cooler)
Posted by: yoeman at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (j1QfB)
If all our illegal immigrants were big titted asian chicks, I would not be complaining.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 18, 2024 01:19 PM (xcxpd)
The typical roof replacement job would be a lot more interesting. "So how old did you you say your roof was Mr. Dream sir?"
"About five months, lots of rain though,... and squirrel attacks, I saw a very heavy looking crow up their last week, absolute unit..."
(puts down lawn chair, beer cooler)
Posted by: banana Dream at January 18, 2024 01:26 PM (Y6IkP)
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The lie changed mid-course, of course. First we were there to save Ukraine. Then we were there to bleed Russia.
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hahahaha
Remember when we passed the sanctions to destroy Russia's economy and they got stronger while our food, gas, energy, and car prices doubled?
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hahahaha
Remember when we passed the sanctions to destroy Russia's economy and they got stronger while our food, gas, energy, and car prices doubled?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:26 PM (+RC1q)
Posted by: DOYLE at January 18, 2024 01:26 PM (Z8Yh2)
464
I think the problem is that we moved closer to a direct democracy system and the msm made the average voter more ignorant of the truth. I think we’ve been in a populist voting mode for a long time.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:20 PM (MNhXM)
I agree that the 17th amendment was a mistake and contributed to the diminution of states rights.
But "direct democracy" would involve things like national referendums for policy decisions, such as Athens employed.
No, populism is only now rising in the sense that in the past, people elected representative on general values and philosophy, and expected said representatives to use their discretion in representing the interests of their constituents. That is no longer the case, because nobody trusts any politician, due to corruption and incompetence, to represent them any longer. Trump is a symptom of this lack of trust, and he won't be the last.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:20 PM (MNhXM)
I agree that the 17th amendment was a mistake and contributed to the diminution of states rights.
But "direct democracy" would involve things like national referendums for policy decisions, such as Athens employed.
No, populism is only now rising in the sense that in the past, people elected representative on general values and philosophy, and expected said representatives to use their discretion in representing the interests of their constituents. That is no longer the case, because nobody trusts any politician, due to corruption and incompetence, to represent them any longer. Trump is a symptom of this lack of trust, and he won't be the last.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:26 PM (5C4od)
465
...or their so dull that they only vote for names they recognize.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (GBKbO)
Now you're starting to get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (GBKbO)
Now you're starting to get it.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:26 PM (dGCAG)
466
=========
If Republicans in KY didn't like Mitch, they'd vote for someone else in the primary against him. They do it in numbers to send at least a message. It didn't matter if they had never heard of the opposition.
So, KY is either full of Republicans who actually don't mind Mitch and what he's doing, or their so dull that they only vote for names they recognize.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (GBKbO)
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Those KY Republicans make sure Mitch's primary opponent is an idiot.
If Republicans in KY didn't like Mitch, they'd vote for someone else in the primary against him. They do it in numbers to send at least a message. It didn't matter if they had never heard of the opposition.
So, KY is either full of Republicans who actually don't mind Mitch and what he's doing, or their so dull that they only vote for names they recognize.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:23 PM (GBKbO)
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Those KY Republicans make sure Mitch's primary opponent is an idiot.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:27 PM (Wj/z9)
467
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (+RC1q)
We don’t have enough manpower to cover the border especially with no sufficient barriers along most of it.
We don’t have enough manpower to cover the border especially with no sufficient barriers along most of it.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:28 PM (MNhXM)
468
But elect a Dem to Senate for KY that has national ambitions and adds to the Dem bench, we start to worry that they'll do some damage.
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:25 PM (rM26B)
———
She probably would’ve had 6 years then out.
And frankly the Dems are crazy leftists all over.
This post on “border security” proves it.
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:25 PM (rM26B)
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She probably would’ve had 6 years then out.
And frankly the Dems are crazy leftists all over.
This post on “border security” proves it.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 18, 2024 01:28 PM (cMXNt)
469
People in KY like Mitch because he brings a ton of money to the state courtesy of the US taxpayers
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (/Mbcg)
Horseshit. The Turtle doesn't bring in nearly as much money as he claims. A big chunk of Fed dollars going into KY is coming from the TVA, which is largely baked into the cake.
People in KY like Mitch because he brings a ton of money to the state courtesy of the US taxpayers
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (/Mbcg)
Horseshit. The Turtle doesn't bring in nearly as much money as he claims. A big chunk of Fed dollars going into KY is coming from the TVA, which is largely baked into the cake.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 18, 2024 01:28 PM (n+4am)
470
Remember when we passed the sanctions to destroy Russia's economy and they got stronger while our food, gas, energy, and car prices doubled?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:26 PM (+RC1q)
It's like a Looney Tunes cartoon. All the men lined up, pointing their guns at the enemy, and the captain shouts "Fire!"
But no one noticed Bugs Bunny bent all the barrels of their guns, so they're pointed back at them.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:26 PM (+RC1q)
It's like a Looney Tunes cartoon. All the men lined up, pointing their guns at the enemy, and the captain shouts "Fire!"
But no one noticed Bugs Bunny bent all the barrels of their guns, so they're pointed back at them.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:28 PM (dGCAG)
471
Forgot to add - illegal immigration is the most glaringly obvious area where this is the case. As has been said on here - there is literally zero incentive for anyone, left or right, to support illegal immigration. And yet here we are. Trump understood this, and this issue is the reason for his political existence.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:29 PM (5C4od)
472
466 Those KY Republicans make sure Mitch's primary opponent is an idiot.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:27 PM (Wj/z9)
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"I would vote against McConnell, whom I hate, but his opposition is crazy! I guess it's McConnell again."
---3 months later---
"Foiled! McConnell betrayed me! I hate him! Why can't we get rid of him!"
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:27 PM (Wj/z9)
=========
"I would vote against McConnell, whom I hate, but his opposition is crazy! I guess it's McConnell again."
---3 months later---
"Foiled! McConnell betrayed me! I hate him! Why can't we get rid of him!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 18, 2024 01:29 PM (GBKbO)
473
As has been pointed out, if you're going to stage a coup and sieze power, the next step is to at least govern close to well.
That's the part where they screwed up. If they'd manage to maintain even 50% of Trump-era awesome people would've cut them some slack because the MSM would've constantly reminded them of COVID and whatever.
But instead they tanked EVERYTHING.
That's the part where they screwed up. If they'd manage to maintain even 50% of Trump-era awesome people would've cut them some slack because the MSM would've constantly reminded them of COVID and whatever.
But instead they tanked EVERYTHING.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:29 PM (+RC1q)
474
Elmer Fudd > Joey Bidet
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 18, 2024 01:29 PM (VhSqk)
475
We don’t have enough manpower to cover the border especially with no sufficient barriers along most of it.
Posted by: Titanium White
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Nonsense. We sent the national guard to Iraq to die, but they can't repel invaders here?
Posted by: Titanium White
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Nonsense. We sent the national guard to Iraq to die, but they can't repel invaders here?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:30 PM (+RC1q)
476
And I'm tired of one party embracing mob rule while the other constantly urges restraint.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:21 PM
This is not the hill to die on.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:21 PM
This is not the hill to die on.
Posted by: Pierre Delecto at January 18, 2024 01:30 PM (a3Q+t)
477
Mitch McConnell is a straight laced Chamber of Commence type. As such, everything in his world is a business deal. He was on the forefront of outsourcing to China, Korea, Brazil, VietNam, Thailand, Indonesia etc.
Every consideration is what makes the cost of labor cheaper.
Every consideration is what makes the cost of labor cheaper.
Posted by: SMOD at January 18, 2024 01:30 PM (RHGPo)
478
Horseshit. The Turtle doesn't bring in nearly as much money as he claims. A big chunk of Fed dollars going into KY is coming from the TVA, which is largely baked into the cake.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 18, 2024 01:28 PM (n+4am)
Exactly. This outdated mode of thinking, that people like THEIR congresscritter, because he brings home the bacon... it doesn't work that way anymore.
And not having to actually count votes makes it even easier to just perpetuate the pig trough, from which the pol sucks his slop, and the people get jack squat.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 18, 2024 01:28 PM (n+4am)
Exactly. This outdated mode of thinking, that people like THEIR congresscritter, because he brings home the bacon... it doesn't work that way anymore.
And not having to actually count votes makes it even easier to just perpetuate the pig trough, from which the pol sucks his slop, and the people get jack squat.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 18, 2024 01:30 PM (dGCAG)
479
GOP rep Troy Nehls in a CNa. interview that he is unwilling to pass bills to increase border patrol funding because it might help to improve Biden's approval ratings
Posted by: Paul banned
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Fine.
And the border is plenty funded. Funding isnt the problem.
Enforce the law. It costs nothing.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (+RC1q)
Hey Paul banned--/
Step 1 - ( completely free) Drop DOJ suit against Texas
Posted by: Paul banned
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Fine.
And the border is plenty funded. Funding isnt the problem.
Enforce the law. It costs nothing.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:24 PM (+RC1q)
Hey Paul banned--/
Step 1 - ( completely free) Drop DOJ suit against Texas
Posted by: LASue at January 18, 2024 01:30 PM (Ed8Zd)
480
what immigration problem ? We are getting chinese girls with tits.
Posted by: yoeman at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (j1QfB)
.......
I like the ones coming out of Tianjin that have eight of them.
Posted by: yoeman at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (j1QfB)
.......
I like the ones coming out of Tianjin that have eight of them.
Posted by: wth at January 18, 2024 01:30 PM (v0R5T)
481
Just saw the White Sox want another new ballpark.
Fuck 'em. They should have NEVER razed Old Comiskey.
Fuck 'em. They should have NEVER razed Old Comiskey.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 18, 2024 01:30 PM (wtvvX)
482
New thread, about bank investigations related to J6. NOOD
Posted by: gdgm+ at January 18, 2024 01:31 PM (w0+ZH)
483
Nonsense. We sent the national guard to Iraq to die, but they can't repel invaders here?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:30 PM (+RC1q)
You think they are free?
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:30 PM (+RC1q)
You think they are free?
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:31 PM (MNhXM)
484
noot
Posted by: fd at January 18, 2024 01:31 PM (vFG9F)
485
Yes, fear of a tyranny of the majority weighed on the founders.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (5C4od)
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Actually the Federalist Papers are quite sanguine about tyranny.
Often they resort to the comparison that abuses of the Constitutional system are no worse than abuses of a more traditional system.
The President is supposed to be a more limited king, and the Congress is supposed to have more power than Parliament to check the king, but not all the power Parliament had, which Madison deferred to a third body (which Jay admits was a bit of an afterthought) the Supreme Court to decide disputes over the wording of laws.
Can the President abuse his powers? They would say yes. But he is to be checked by both Congress formally, and the Supreme Court for violating terms that bind him.
In fact, unlike the squeamish of today who think that it should somehow be a rule that disqualifies the President for using the military to carry about assassinations of political foes, Impeachment is the check.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:17 PM (5C4od)
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Actually the Federalist Papers are quite sanguine about tyranny.
Often they resort to the comparison that abuses of the Constitutional system are no worse than abuses of a more traditional system.
The President is supposed to be a more limited king, and the Congress is supposed to have more power than Parliament to check the king, but not all the power Parliament had, which Madison deferred to a third body (which Jay admits was a bit of an afterthought) the Supreme Court to decide disputes over the wording of laws.
Can the President abuse his powers? They would say yes. But he is to be checked by both Congress formally, and the Supreme Court for violating terms that bind him.
In fact, unlike the squeamish of today who think that it should somehow be a rule that disqualifies the President for using the military to carry about assassinations of political foes, Impeachment is the check.
Posted by: Axeman at January 18, 2024 01:31 PM (krQz2)
486
It doesn't hurt that Lexington and Louisville are... horrific. People don't realize that Louisville is the 27th biggest city in the US, larger than Miami, Atlanta, and a host of places that you'd think were major urban areas. Even Lexington is bigger than Jersey City, Pittsburgh, etc.... and those places take a TOLL on us.
Posted by: American Hawkman at January 18, 2024 01:32 PM (rM26B)
487
We don’t have enough manpower to cover the border especially with no sufficient barriers along most of it.
Posted by: Titanium White
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Nonsense. We sent the national guard to Iraq to die, but they can't repel invaders here?
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You think they are free?
Posted by: Titanium White
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I'll allow the shifting goalposts.
I'd suggest that is literally their job, and one that America pays for already.
Posted by: Titanium White
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Nonsense. We sent the national guard to Iraq to die, but they can't repel invaders here?
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You think they are free?
Posted by: Titanium White
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I'll allow the shifting goalposts.
I'd suggest that is literally their job, and one that America pays for already.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:32 PM (+RC1q)
488
"I want to fundamentally transform America", Shit Midas.
There is your fucking plan.
Cloward-Piven, yet another plan.
WEF, still more plans.
500 million is the ideal population of the earth. Plans.
There is your fucking plan.
Cloward-Piven, yet another plan.
WEF, still more plans.
500 million is the ideal population of the earth. Plans.
Posted by: DOYLE at January 18, 2024 01:32 PM (Z8Yh2)
489
This is some and I think the speaker needs to repeat ad nauseum:
Congress controls the purse strings.
Next question.
Congress controls the purse strings.
Next question.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at January 18, 2024 01:33 PM (FxH7T)
490
475 We don’t have enough manpower to cover the border especially with no sufficient barriers along most of it.
-------------------
Wonder if Trump would get any qualified volunteers for a border militia?
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Wonder if Trump would get any qualified volunteers for a border militia?
Posted by: Braenyard at January 18, 2024 01:33 PM (Wj/z9)
491
As has been pointed out, if you're going to stage a coup and sieze power, the next step is to at least govern close to well. That's the part where they screwed up.
Yup. It's actually why I have hope. Because I'd be terrified if this current collection of ass-holes could keep an economy somewhat working. Because then, they'd have time on their side and could do whatever they wanted.
But they can't. So shit is going to get worse, which is necessary for shit to then get better. I don't know how long it will take, but I'm certain of this; some people will only endure so much, and the rest will follow the strong horse.
Yes, its the end of Classical Liberalism, and it's probably the end of republican government. I'm OK with both.
Yup. It's actually why I have hope. Because I'd be terrified if this current collection of ass-holes could keep an economy somewhat working. Because then, they'd have time on their side and could do whatever they wanted.
But they can't. So shit is going to get worse, which is necessary for shit to then get better. I don't know how long it will take, but I'm certain of this; some people will only endure so much, and the rest will follow the strong horse.
Yes, its the end of Classical Liberalism, and it's probably the end of republican government. I'm OK with both.
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:34 PM (1/cvT)
492
I'll allow the shifting goalposts.
I'd suggest that is literally their job, and one that America pays for already.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:32 PM (+RC1q)
I’ll allow you your simplistic solution which I agree but which is not based on financial reality. It has a cost thus more funding need for it.
I'd suggest that is literally their job, and one that America pays for already.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - Trump losing one massively (D) county by one vote proves that he can't beat Biden at January 18, 2024 01:32 PM (+RC1q)
I’ll allow you your simplistic solution which I agree but which is not based on financial reality. It has a cost thus more funding need for it.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:34 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Questions at January 18, 2024 01:36 PM (1/cvT)
494
Corruption is one thing - all governments are corrupt to one degree or another. After all, they are made up of imperfect humans. What kills any regime - monarchical, republican, communist - is a lack of competency. Also known as the "Mandate of Heaven" or "Institutional Trust".
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:12 PM (5C4od)
It means the rubes, the ones that got sucked into it by the fast talking con-men who sold them the keys to power, inherited the Earth, and now have the levers of powers and a pamphlet they never understood.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at January 18, 2024 01:12 PM (5C4od)
It means the rubes, the ones that got sucked into it by the fast talking con-men who sold them the keys to power, inherited the Earth, and now have the levers of powers and a pamphlet they never understood.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 18, 2024 01:36 PM (D7oie)
495
I’ll allow you your simplistic solution which I agree but which is not based on financial reality. It has a cost thus more funding need for it.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:34 PM (MNhXM)
This is pretty pushy for someone who was talking about his onus earlier.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 18, 2024 01:34 PM (MNhXM)
This is pretty pushy for someone who was talking about his onus earlier.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 18, 2024 01:38 PM (D7oie)
496
Fuck Ukraine.
And their hot women.
In other news, Big Tit Donna has been sighted, taking Geezer Eric home from the hospital after being saved by a mysterious procedure from a mysterious ailment.
And their hot women.
In other news, Big Tit Donna has been sighted, taking Geezer Eric home from the hospital after being saved by a mysterious procedure from a mysterious ailment.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 18, 2024 01:41 PM (ufFY8)
497
"Foiled! McConnell betrayed me! I hate him! Why can't we get rid of him!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That is why Conservatism is a failed ideology. When you can claim the policy of invade the world, invite the world as conservative, it literally has no meaning. Conservatism as a behavior is decorum not policy.
What has been little reported is that the House GOP and the Senate Uniparty have coalesced around agreements to a) restore tax breaks to bizness, and b) boost the child tax credit (and make it welfare to non tax payers).
This is an example of the uniparty in action--the GOP takes care of bizness and the Dems take care of their voters by subsidies. No one cares that the tab will simply be charged to the national debt credit card.
That is the reason I think that the system will collapse because the encrusted interest groups, like in the late Bourbon years of France (1760 or so to the French Revolution), simply are overwhelming any way to correct the fiscal situation. Our government (and most of the West) is simply drowning in debt which is also killing off the future. Native childbirths inevitably decline during harsh economic conditions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That is why Conservatism is a failed ideology. When you can claim the policy of invade the world, invite the world as conservative, it literally has no meaning. Conservatism as a behavior is decorum not policy.
What has been little reported is that the House GOP and the Senate Uniparty have coalesced around agreements to a) restore tax breaks to bizness, and b) boost the child tax credit (and make it welfare to non tax payers).
This is an example of the uniparty in action--the GOP takes care of bizness and the Dems take care of their voters by subsidies. No one cares that the tab will simply be charged to the national debt credit card.
That is the reason I think that the system will collapse because the encrusted interest groups, like in the late Bourbon years of France (1760 or so to the French Revolution), simply are overwhelming any way to correct the fiscal situation. Our government (and most of the West) is simply drowning in debt which is also killing off the future. Native childbirths inevitably decline during harsh economic conditions.
Posted by: whig at January 18, 2024 01:43 PM (gvoQe)
498
I have no "f's" left to give for Ukraine. And where the h--- is the peace movement on all this? Vitamin "D" even inoculates against Code Pink.
Posted by: Martin Tell at January 18, 2024 01:45 PM (U7YKP)
499
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Posted by: Cheap Private Proxies at January 18, 2024 01:46 PM (lpojc)
500
Her left boob is chilly but the right one is not?
If you have never known a woman with this fascinating characteristic, your life is not totally fulfilled yet.
The floormount dimmer switch has three positions.
If you have never known a woman with this fascinating characteristic, your life is not totally fulfilled yet.
The floormount dimmer switch has three positions.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 18, 2024 01:54 PM (zdLoL)
501
How does Romney manage to suck himself off?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (kSHhA)
No spine.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 18, 2024 01:18 PM (kSHhA)
No spine.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 18, 2024 01:54 PM (aD39U)
502
Probably too late:
There is a great political novel that may explain a lot in DC, Robert Penn Warren's "All the King's Men."
A reporter is toid to find dirt on a judge.
The Boss said: "But if it takes ten years, you find it."
“But suppose there isn't anything to find.”
And the Boss said, “There is always something. And make it stick."
There is a great political novel that may explain a lot in DC, Robert Penn Warren's "All the King's Men."
A reporter is toid to find dirt on a judge.
The Boss said: "But if it takes ten years, you find it."
“But suppose there isn't anything to find.”
And the Boss said, “There is always something. And make it stick."
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 18, 2024 02:03 PM (pVKJu)
503
Here are the decepticons who routinely vote democrat:
Capito (WV), Cassidy (LA), Collins (ME), Cornyn (TX), Ernst (IA), Graham (SC), McConnell (KY), Murkowski (AK), Romney (UT), Tillis (NC), and Young (IN)
These are the neo-liberals who are at the heart of our problems.
Capito (WV), Cassidy (LA), Collins (ME), Cornyn (TX), Ernst (IA), Graham (SC), McConnell (KY), Murkowski (AK), Romney (UT), Tillis (NC), and Young (IN)
These are the neo-liberals who are at the heart of our problems.
Posted by: Danimal28 at January 18, 2024 02:09 PM (klw0w)
504
Eagle Pass is more important than Kyiv. Once Eagle Pass is better, then we can talk about Kyiv. That's not a "no" on help, but priorities. Putin is the last bit of the Evil Empire and he has to go and i do want to help the Ukrainians, but my problems come first. Those Bradleys tag teaming that T-90 is good, keep doing that.
Posted by: hurricane567 at January 18, 2024 02:10 PM (uPraa)
505
"So we have to be serious in saying: We are not only willing to give Ukraine entirely to the tender mercies of Putin, we kind of want to do that.
Let them die. I have pushed back against what I considered a pro-Russian kind of tilt on Ukraine, but now I'm here: Let the Ukrainians die."
Ace is becoming increasing psychopathic lately. It's disturbing.
Let them die. I have pushed back against what I considered a pro-Russian kind of tilt on Ukraine, but now I'm here: Let the Ukrainians die."
Ace is becoming increasing psychopathic lately. It's disturbing.
Posted by: Jason at January 18, 2024 02:10 PM (yS8bt)
506
Anyone else think Vivek would make
a great White House Press Secretary?
a great White House Press Secretary?
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507
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Posted by: grandparent at January 18, 2024 02:25 PM (37ieQ)
508
The UN/Globalists is a real enemy
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 18, 2024 04:27 PM (wGqjj)
509
The best thing about Ukraine is that you can find a bunch of great and cheap lingerie on Etsy from Ukraine.
Posted by: hatethedeepstate at January 18, 2024 04:47 PM (rrm0E)
510
I have pushed back against what I considered a pro-Russian kind of tilt on Ukraine, but now I'm here: Let the Ukrainians die.…
—-Ace
“Welcome to the party, pal, I mean Ace!”
—-Ace
“Welcome to the party, pal, I mean Ace!”
Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at January 18, 2024 06:09 PM (V8yYW)
511
Umm Ace? Isn't this the party you support and vote for? The non maga party? Just wondering
Posted by: Isolden at January 18, 2024 06:31 PM (dB99g)
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New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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