Saturday Evening Movie Thread: Poor Things [moviegique]

Yorgos Lanthimos. I like the way that sounds: YorGOS LANthiMOS!

Sorry, I can't see a movie from this bizarre Greek filmmaker without going on about his name. It may be, in fact, that I don't like his movies per se but I enjoy any excuse to say his name. Yorgos. Lanthimos.

Seriously, though, the deal with YL is this: He's weird. He makes odd movies that, shall we say, challenge sentimentality.

Mark Ruffalo is less credible as a lothario than as a heartbroken schlub.

Personally, I like sentimentality, so if you're going to dismantle it, you'd better do a good job. And so it was with the very challenging The Lobster and the somewhat more accessible (Academy Award winning) The Favourite. And while I liked The Lobster (a lot!) it was definitely in the realm of Movies-I-Would-Not-Generally-Recommend. (The Favourite, arguably, hides some of its prickliness and may be more watchable.)

Poor Things is also going to be challenging, no doubt. It is a brilliant concept (enough to where I want to read the '90s book it was based on). Take the Victorian-era tropes of the young virgin, lured to her ruin by a seductive Lothario, struggling to survive by working in a brothel, only to come back home sadder-but-wiser.

OK, now, for the young virgin, substitute Frankenstein's monster, and you have Poor Things.

The Monster. (This pose, and several others in the early part of the film evoke Elsa Lanchester in "Bride of Frankenstein"

The monster in this case is Emma Stone, and if you wish to see said actress naked, simulating sexual responses, this is undoubtedly the film for you.

But, as always, for Mr. Lanthimos, this is not the point. The story goes like this: A mad scientist (a wonderfully Frakensteined-up Willem Dafoe) brings his young student (Ramy Youssef) to babysit his monster (Emma Stone). Quickly, though, we realize she's not a monster but a baby in a woman's body.

The movie is increasingly blunt about it's non-literal nature. The scenery is largely CGI mattes, there are dirigibles everywhere, strange architecture—I kind of feel like Lanthimos, far from a shock-the-squares kinda guy, is someone who just wants to tell weird stories without people getting crazy about the horror they would depict were they real.

Willem Dafoe had to spend nine hours in the makeup chair to look slightly scarier than usual.

It's odd to say that a movie that has such intense graphic violence and sex has a "light touch" but there's a purity of intent here: It's not trying to gross you out or turn you on, it's trying to get you to consider why you have certain reactions.

This mostly comes out as funny, if blackly so. The lothario (Mark Ruffalo) ends up the basket case as the monster uses him for sexual pleasure without any sentimental attachment. And then, as she learns of the suffering of others, she ruins him even further to give his money to the suffering and the destitute. She has no moral compunctions about sexuality but far from leading her to endless ecstasy, she ends up frustrated and ultimately numb.

But she never grasps the concept of victimhood either, and she becomes increasingly in control of her circumstances, even as she deals with unscrupulous, exploitative people.

There's a third act twist which is both dark and funny, as the monster discovers her roots. And the mad scientist, who is constantly talking dispassionately about the tortures his own father inflicted on him (why? for science!) ultimately, much like his monster, discovers the value in genuine human sentiment.

Congrats on the Golden Globe, Emma.

For all the sex, violence and depravity, it's a pretty upbeat story, actually. But you have to get through all the sex, violence and depravity, which could be either a plus or a minus depending on your own tendencies.

Acting is top notch. The music is brilliant. The CGI is fake-as-hell but deliberately so, that sort of not-trying-to-fool-you-just-trying-to-entertain look. The costumes are fabulous, capturing a Victorian feel mixed with the absurdity of Stone running around in what would've been called her underwear back then.

Though the 'gique's niece argues that it's much more accessible than The Lobster. Still, the 'gique counters, it's not going to win over her grandmother (my mother) who hates The Lobster and considers it the worst movie ever made.

Overall, it's of a piece with the rest of the director's work. It's much more highly rated (8.5 on IMDB) than his next higher work, The Favourite (7.5), but ultimately it cannot escape its own Yorgosity. Lanthimosity? That is, if you don't like this guy's style, this probably isn't going to win you over.

I would be surprised if it breaks the top five. If the Golden Globes are worth anything (and they shouldn't be) it might break the $30M (domestic) box office, but I'm guessing it peters out in the mid-20s. It's gotten nowhere near the top five, and I don't expect it to.

In the past three weeks, we've seen Monster, The Boy and the Heron, upheld the Christmas tradition of seeing Korean movies on the 24th, 12/12 and The Deadly Sea, and in the new year the 3D documentary from Wim Wenders, Anselm, and The Iron Claw. They're all really good in their respective genres.

12/12 is a political thriller about how fascists took over South Korea in the '80s (see 1987: When The Day Comes for the end of that story). These sorts of movies are typically super-hard to follow for us, but this one was so well done we were on the edge of our seats the whole time.

The Iron Claw is a moving drama based on a real-life wrestling family which is really terrific but also a tearjerker. Even so, it's my recommendation of the week for "normie American fare". It manages to portray values and people foreign to Hollywood in a respectful way. Check it out.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:30 PM

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1 1?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 13, 2024 07:38 PM (MoZTd)

2
And now, having registered my First with the Land Claims Office, I will bow out.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 13, 2024 07:39 PM (MoZTd)

3 The Favourite was such a let down of a movie.

Posted by: nckate at January 13, 2024 07:40 PM (EPm6B)

4 The Von Erich family was one snake bit family. Haven't seen the movie yet but I know the story. (Iron Claw)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 13, 2024 07:41 PM (PGK1w)

5 Yorgos Lanthimos is second only to Panos Cosmatos for Hellenic awesomsauceness.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 07:43 PM (+RQPJ)

6 Disease X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noNa3WUGpC8

[ apologies if I missed a "no politics" warning ... meh ... this is science!! ]

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 13, 2024 07:44 PM (KBjAN)

7 I wish I knew more about movies.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 13, 2024 07:45 PM (lwOKI)

8 Since I embrace the weird, and even give it a little tongue on occasion, this sounds like a movie made just for me.

You had me at "dirigible", Moviegique.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 07:45 PM (+RQPJ)

9 For all the sex, violence and depravity, it's a pretty upbeat story, actually. But you have to get through all the sex, violence and depravity, which could be either a plus or a minus depending on your own tendencies.

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This sentence is just one example of why the Movie Thread is so great.

Posted by: LASue at January 13, 2024 07:46 PM (YDB6U)

10 I don’t like dark movies for the most part .

My favorite depressing movie is The Human Stain.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 07:50 PM (MNhXM)

11 Aliens: The Musical:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NtTqG0yaYU0

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 07:51 PM (+RQPJ)

12 Of the four of his films I've seen, I'm not whether I prefer The Lobster, or Killing Of a Sacred Deer.

I have The Favorite on Bluray here, but haven't watched it.

I like Alps, and thought Dogtooth an incredible film, but as you've noted, not one I'd recommend for most people.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 07:52 PM (QBaJw)

13 For all the sex, violence and depravity, it's a pretty upbeat story, actually. But you have to get through all the sex, violence and depravity, which could be either a plus or a minus depending on your own tendencies.

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This sentence is just one example of why the Movie Thread is so great.
Posted by: LASue at January 13, 2024 07:46

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Indeed it is, love the movie thread. I'm contemplating what to put on as we are homebound here for a bit. We shall see.

Posted by: Farmer at January 13, 2024 07:52 PM (55Qr6)

14 he Iron Claw is a moving drama based on a real-life wrestling family which is really terrific but also a tearjerker. Even so, it's my recommendation of the week for "normie American fare". It manages to portray values and people foreign to Hollywood in a respectful way. Check it out.…………

Is it better than The Wrestler?

Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 07:53 PM (MNhXM)

15 Popcorn and Diet Coke, huge, please.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at January 13, 2024 07:54 PM (GVsiV)

16 I have begun watching Season 5 of Fargo.

1. It is interesting that the chose to take elements of the movie and mix them up. There's an attempted kidnapping of the wife of car dealership owner by two thugs. The dealership guy has an overbearing parent. There's a female cop with a thick Minnesota accent in a relationship with an unsuccessful man. But they use the pieces differently. I am not sure if it's purely manipulative subverting expectations through fan service, or if it's going to be something more.

2. "Jon Hamm's Partytits" would be a great Moron nic. Almost a counterpart to MPPPP.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 13, 2024 07:54 PM (9yUzE)

17 I finally saw Nolan's "Oppenheimer". I didn't manage to catch it in the theater and after Nolan's exhortation to SEE IT IN IMAX!!, I thought I might be missing something by watching it on my home screen. Naaaah. The Bomb scene was oversold and underwhelming.

Surprise bonus laugh: young Feynman playing the bongos after a successful test at Trinity.

Anyway, great cast, good movie, but self-indulgent artiness knocked it down a few pegs for me. I am very familiar with the players in this saga and had no problem following the personalities and timeline jumps, but I wonder if it was confusing to the Bomb Virgin.

I have minimal sympathy for Oppie. You aren't granted a security clearance in perpetuity.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 07:54 PM (+RQPJ)

18 I'm a big Wes Anderson fan. I saw that there was a new Wes Anderson movie on Amazon, and I set aside time to watch it. I was really excited and enjoyed the first 12 or so minutes immensely, because it set up a lot of characters the way that I enjoy him doing.

Then I turned it off because The Gay happened, and I don't know if I'll finish it. Although I'll admit that I sort of think The Gay occurred in a way to make fun of stereotypes, because the actor and the playwright meet for the first time and start the monkeypox-spreading stuff because, well, Gay actors and Hollywood.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 07:55 PM (/TehT)

19 I saw The Iron Claw at Chuck E. Cheese.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2024 07:55 PM (63Dwl)

20 I've been on a bit of a Clint kick, spurred on by Netfux putting a couple of the 60s era westerns on their site: Joe Kidd and High Plains Drifter.

Both fine films, and then I watched Hang 'Em High, which I thought I had seen before, but apparently not. I was somewhat surprised by it, I guess I was assuming the main character would be one way, and turned out he was another.

Also some subtle characterizations for the other characters, some of whom didn't have a lot of screen time. Not to mention Dennis Hopper getting to be Dennis Hopper for about 2 minutes. That was nice.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 07:57 PM (QBaJw)

21 saw The Iron Claw at Chuck E. Cheese.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2024 07:55 PM (63Dwl)

That would be The Very Light Grip Claw.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 07:57 PM (MNhXM)

22 The Bob’s Burgers Movie is about to start on FX.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 07:58 PM (MNhXM)

23 Also sort of movie related because sound systems:

Our Walmart has $300 Samsung wireless surround sound systems (soundbar, wireless rear right and left, subwoofer) for $80. I broke down and bought one and it sounds fantastic. So much so that I removed my other setup that took up a bunch of room and looked kind of tacky.

Worth a look if you're going by and in the market.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 07:59 PM (/TehT)

24 Then I turned it off because The Gay happened, and I don't know if I'll finish it. Although I'll admit that I sort of think The Gay occurred in a way to make fun of stereotypes, because the actor and the playwright meet for the first time and start the monkeypox-spreading stuff because, well, Gay actors and Hollywood.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 07:55 PM (/TehT)

Don't let The Gay discourage you. It's basically just a small comment on the fact that yeah, most playwriters are gay. It really has no further bearing on the film.

It's a joyful film, and I got my first exposure to the song "Freight Train." An interesting little ditty, written by a black woman, and covered here by a Scottish skiffle singer, sounding so chipper and gay (in the traditional sense), until you realize the lyrics.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:00 PM (QBaJw)

25 I want to see Emma Stone's naughty bits.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:01 PM (rJ7Hd)

26 https://youtu.be/l4bKAt_6UUc?si=0ZwvVKp8v-K_SWhT
a subtitled version of Union of Salvation, the real story of the Russian Decembrists revolt.
It was my 3rd viewing of the 2 hour version and watched the 8 50some minutes episodes.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 08:03 PM (fwDg9)

27 I have minimal sympathy for Oppie. You aren't granted a security clearance in perpetuity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 07:54 PM (+RQPJ)

I'm not sure why he needs to be revived, as a sympathetic person. He's a guy too smart for his own good, and was well and truly used by the commies.

I'm not interested in seeing the movie, I think Nolan is a hack. The aforementioned Wes Anderson film, Asteroid City, has a couple atom bomb explosions. They're a nice touch for that film.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:04 PM (QBaJw)

28 Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:01 PM (rJ7Hd)

Cut and paste into search engine.
Click images.
Append 'hot' and reload.

Almost always works although many of the images will say 'fake'.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at January 13, 2024 08:04 PM (KBjAN)

29 It's a joyful film, and I got my first exposure to the song "Freight Train." An interesting little ditty, written by a black woman...

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Wait, is it Elizabeth Cottons (sp)? I know the original and it's lovely but yeah, not a cheerful song. I don't think I made it that far. I'll keep watching it, though. I own everything he's ever done, and I hated to turn it off, but I wasn't in the mood for it at the time.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 08:05 PM (/TehT)

30 I just had a movie playing on TCM, Up Periscope with James Garner and Edmond O'Brien. I like reading bios on actors. Edmond O'Brien had a good career, but died a sad death at age 69. Alzheimer's really sucks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 13, 2024 08:06 PM (0EOe9)

31 I want to see Emma Stone's naughty bits.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:01 PM (rJ7Hd)

I assume they all use body doubles these days. When I watched part of Wolf Of Wall Street, I turned it off not long after Margot Robbie's pleasant scene.

I figure it was all downhill from there, and yeah, I think all Scorsese films are pretty much the same.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:06 PM (QBaJw)

32 I'm watching Star Wars: A New Hope and as many times as I've seen this, I'm just now realizing that Leia is a total asshole who bets the entire Rebel Fleet at Yavin on her gamble to destroy the Deathstar.

After they 'escape the DS' (right after Obi-Wan dies), she clearly says they only got away because they were let go. She says the Falcon is being tracked, which Solo waves off.

So she knows they are being tracked and then proceeds to lead the Empire right to the base on Yavin.

She's either an idiot or is gambling that she can entice Tarkin to attack the DS because it's coming.

She gambles the whole resistance on this when she didn't have to.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:06 PM (GB0ku)

33 "The Old Dark House" is coming on Svengoolie. It's kind of like "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" without the transvestites and aliens. And Meatloaf.

Posted by: fd at January 13, 2024 08:06 PM (vFG9F)

34 I assume they all use body doubles these days. When I watched part of Wolf Of Wall Street, I turned it off not long after Margot Robbie's pleasant scene.

I figure it was all downhill from there, and yeah, I think all Scorsese films are pretty much the same.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:06 PM (QBaJw)

You don't think that was Robbie's hoohah?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:07 PM (GB0ku)

35 Wait, is it Elizabeth Cottons (sp)? I know the original and it's lovely but yeah, not a cheerful song. I don't think I made it that far. I'll keep watching it, though. I own everything he's ever done, and I hated to turn it off, but I wasn't in the mood for it at the time.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 08:05 PM (/TehT)

Elizabeth Cotton is the black woman who wrote the song. The cover, done by Nancy Whiskey, is what is featured at the end of the film. Some difference to the lyrics between versions. Cotton is an amazing guitar player, plays "upside down," but her voice is... I guess it's an acquired taste.

Whiskey's voice is smooth and deceptively warm. As it should be.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:09 PM (QBaJw)

36 You don't think that was Robbie's hoohah?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:07 PM (GB0ku)

Sadly, I do not.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:10 PM (QBaJw)

37 g'night everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at January 13, 2024 08:11 PM (WsTvr)

38 FWIW, I tested out that new sound system with 13 Assassins.

Good movie if you're into that kind of thing. By that kind of thing I mean samurai and subtitles and good stories and expertly filmed really long battles, with people saying things like "kill anyone who makes it past me. Don't leave anyone alive" while two people face two dozen other professional swordsmen.

youtube.com/watch?v=xfBmKZVPPHc

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 08:11 PM (/TehT)

39 I finally went back to a movie theater for the first time since before Covid. Saw Godzilla Minus One. It was far better than it had any right to be.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 08:11 PM (H5IZ1)

40 She gambles the whole resistance on this when she didn't have to.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:06 PM (GB0ku)

That, or Lucas and Co. were just making it up as they went along.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:12 PM (QBaJw)

41 10 I don’t like dark movies for the most part .

My favorite depressing movie is The Human Stain.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 07:50 PM (MNhXM)
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Is that about FJB and his dragging Depends?

Posted by: Ciampino - On the USS Enterprise do they use Star Bucks for currency? at January 13, 2024 08:14 PM (qfLjt)

42 36 You don't think that was Robbie's hoohah?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:07 PM (GB0ku)

Sadly, I do not.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:10 PM (QBaJw)

I'm willing to investigate this further.

For the sake of filmmaking authenticity, of course.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:14 PM (GB0ku)

43 So with all these movies out that sound like they'd be worth a watch, what do I do?

Flip around in TubiTV, see that they've got Dark of the Sun (1968, Rod Taylor, Jim Brown, Yvette Mimieux), notice that the streaming version is much better picture quality than what I'd caught from TCM on the dvr some years ago, so bought that and watched it again. A nifty and grim piece of work -- and even if it wasn't as nifty and grim as it is, hey, anything that gives Yvette Mimieux a few minutes of screen time can't be all bad.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 13, 2024 08:15 PM (a/4+U)

44 Evening.

I was going to bitch and moan because I thought this week's thread was going to be about The Lego Movie and how badly the sequel (which I never saw) sucked but then I remembered it was 'Giques week to post the Movie Thread.

I'm totally up for Emma Stone doing degenerate things. Where can I see this film?

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 08:17 PM (wCEl7)

45 I don't think I'll ever understand the allure of those caterpillar eyebrows.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 13, 2024 08:17 PM (53Ltd)

46 Bushy eyebrows, bushy back forty.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:21 PM (GB0ku)

47 Has anyone watched the Baztan Trilogy? I have all three downloaded but haven't invested the time yet.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 13, 2024 08:22 PM (aD39U)

48 I'm willing to investigate this further.

For the sake of filmmaking authenticity, of course.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:14 PM (GB0ku)

Maybe it is, I guess she wasn't as big a star then, but there was something weird about the framing of the scene that looked fake.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:22 PM (SyQqu)

49 Anywho, saw way too many movies when I was home.

Did watch the Godzilla/Kong Monsterverse films. They got stupider with each passing film but amazingly they got more entertaining as well. By the last one I just wanted to feed all the human characters through a fucking wood chipper but the monster action was *glorious*. Hong Kong is, apparently, lit up light a strip club.

The 2014 Godzilla was, unfortunately, borderline unwatchable at the end. It was so fucking dark you couldn't see what was happening. I don't recall having this problem when I saw it in the theater but on my TV it was nothing but black crush. Holy shit.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 08:22 PM (xEE0b)

50 Maybe it is, I guess she wasn't as big a star then, but there was something weird about the framing of the scene that looked fake.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:22 PM (SyQqu

She says it was real in multiple interviews. Speaks of tequila shots of courage and lying to her family about their being any nude scenes.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:24 PM (GB0ku)

51 Apropos of nothing, I think there are two kinds of people in this world; those that think Donnie Darko is a masterpiece and those that think w.t.f?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 13, 2024 08:26 PM (aD39U)

52
The 2014 Godzilla was, unfortunately, borderline unwatchable at the end. It was so fucking dark you couldn't see what was happening. I don't recall having this problem when I saw it in the theater but on my TV it was nothing but black crush. Holy shit.
Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 08:22 PM (xEE0b)

Cheap CGI has made movie makers lazy and careless.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 08:26 PM (H5IZ1)

53
The 2014 Godzilla was, unfortunately, borderline unwatchable at the end. It was so fucking dark you couldn't see what was happening. I don't recall having this problem when I saw it in the theater but on my TV it was nothing but black crush. Holy shit.
Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 08:22 PM (xEE0b

I hate this shit with the heat of ten suns. All these idiot filmmakers who think low or no lighting somehow makes mood are idiots.

I have a great TV but it's not capable of handling all the black scenes and you can't make out a thing.

Zero dark thirty was another screw up when they filmed the compound scene. I couldn't see shit until they go inside.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:27 PM (GB0ku)

54 Aliens: The Musical:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NtTqG0yaYU0
Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 07:51 PM (+RQPJ)

LOL! That's hilarious! Of course the best Alien musical was at the end of Spaceballs - "Hello my baby, hello my darling, hello my good time gal!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 13, 2024 08:28 PM (S6gqv)

55 A good scene to test your surround sound system with is the rocket launch from Apollo 13.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 08:30 PM (H5IZ1)

56 I did a Streisand triple feature last weekend. I know, I know. But she was actually in some great films early on.

Funny Girl, The Way we Were, and Prince of Tides.

Tides doesn't hold up well. Nolte's performance is kinda of forced. Should have gone for A Star Is Born instead.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:30 PM (GB0ku)

57 LOL! That's hilarious! Of course the best Alien musical was at the end of Spaceballs - "Hello my baby, hello my darling, hello my good time gal!"
Posted by: Tom Servo

With John Hurt playing the same character, '...not again...'.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 13, 2024 08:33 PM (PGK1w)

58 Three kinds of people -- #3 is People Who Have Never Seen Donnie Darko.

What can I say -- I've been slow on the uptake the last few decades...

Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 13, 2024 08:33 PM (a/4+U)

59 Apropos of nothing, I think there are two kinds of people in this world; those that think Donnie Darko is a masterpiece and those that think w.t.f?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 13, 2024 08:26 PM (aD39U)

I haven't seen it in years but I felt it was trying too hard to be weird.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 08:34 PM (Wl9BE)

60 A good scene to test your surround sound system with is the rocket launch from Apollo 13.
Posted by: Vanya

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That's a good idea.

I was amazed once I started tinkering with the whole surround thing again after a few years out of it that the streaming services have such good audio. I don't know why that would be surprising, but it was neat to see all the options offered.

I will also admit that the wife likes this Samsung a lot more than using the stereo. Something about having to just turn it on to use it vs turn it on, choose this input, select this mode, pick this sound design, etc.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 08:36 PM (/TehT)

61
That's a good idea.

I was amazed once I started tinkering with the whole surround thing again after a few years out of it that the streaming services have such good audio. I don't know why that would be surprising, but it was neat to see all the options offered.

I will also admit that the wife likes this Samsung a lot more than using the stereo. Something about having to just turn it on to use it vs turn it on, choose this input, select this mode, pick this sound design, etc.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 08:36 PM (/TehT)

Even better. Use the sonic grenade scene from Star Wars Attack of the Clones.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:38 PM (GB0ku)

62 Would the bank shoot-out sequence from Heat be a good test for a surround-sound system?

Posted by: davidt at January 13, 2024 08:40 PM (SYTee)

63 I have a great TV but it's not capable of handling all the black scenes and you can't make out a thing.

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I remember reading a few years ago how that was the big challenge in TVs and what people pay big money for in the manufacturers' attempt to reproduce the variation in dark scenes, and whoever could crack that puzzle would own the market.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 08:40 PM (/TehT)

64 Mark Ruffalo is a born loser who would have had his sorry ass handed to him in my high school every time he opened his mouth.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 13, 2024 08:40 PM (J3ryZ)

65 Even better. Use the sonic grenade scene from Star Wars Attack of the Clones.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:38 PM (GB0ku)

The only things I remember about that movie are the memes it spawned for having the worst romantic story since OJ Simpson's marriage.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 08:41 PM (H5IZ1)

66 Ed Driscoll links to a video about the visual effects of Napoleon.

https://instapundit.com/626577/

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 08:42 PM (UkL8L)

67 62 Would the bank shoot-out sequence from Heat be a good test for a surround-sound system?
Posted by: davidt at January 13, 2024 08:40 PM (SYTee)

Sure, though I don't know how much mixing they did in that scene. I know they chose the location for the building echos that would result. But I don't know if they designed it for 5.1.

Probably did.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:42 PM (GB0ku)

68 Would the bank shoot-out sequence from Heat be a good test for a surround-sound system?
Posted by: davidt at January 13, 2024 08:40 PM (SYTee)

That's a good one too. I saw that in theaters and they did a really good job with the sound design on that one.

The movie's too fucking long and too involved but that scene is good.

Perhaps also: Beach scene from Saving Private Ryan.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 08:43 PM (H5IZ1)

69
I remember reading a few years ago how that was the big challenge in TVs and what people pay big money for in the manufacturers' attempt to reproduce the variation in dark scenes, and whoever could crack that puzzle would own the market.
Posted by: Nikki Haley

Isn't that what OLED is supposed to fix?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2024 08:43 PM (63Dwl)

70
The only things I remember about that movie are the memes it spawned for having the worst romantic story since OJ Simpson's marriage.
Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 08:41 PM (H5IZ1)

Crap movie but great sound design. The scene I'm talking about is where Obi-Wan is sneaky following BobaFett. Fett Launches those sonic charges that go from dead silent to this string pluck twang that just crushed my sound system it was so good.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:44 PM (GB0ku)

71 "The Old Dark House" is coming on Svengoolie. It's kind of like "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" without the transvestites and aliens. And Meatloaf.
Posted by: fd

So, it's like sitting in a darkened theater while the people behind you throw stuff at you?

Posted by: mikeski at January 13, 2024 08:45 PM (DgGvY)

72 I cheated and went to look at movies that were good to show off surround sound systems, and I had no idea that Kraftwerk recorded a 3D video album called "The Catalogue"

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 08:45 PM (/TehT)

73 Fett Launches those sonic charges that go from dead silent to this string pluck twang that just crushed my sound system it was so good.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:44 PM (GB0ku)

I remember that now, the ones with the X-shaped shock waves. Yes, that was good.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 08:45 PM (H5IZ1)

74 Isn't that what OLED is supposed to fix?

-

No idea. I'm a stranger in a strange land when it comes to TV stuff.

Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 08:46 PM (/TehT)

75 I have to say I really disliked The Lobster. It seemed forced and artificial. I thought Colin Farrell was good in it, though.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 13, 2024 08:47 PM (CHHv1)

76 Ford vs Ferrari is another good one for sound systems.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:48 PM (GB0ku)

77 Cleveland Browns still suck.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:50 PM (GB0ku)

78 OLEDs are just the diodes that backlight the picture on your TV.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 08:50 PM (yf+dE)

79 Oh, no, forget I said that.

My shits all retarded tonight.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 08:52 PM (yf+dE)

80 A good sound system, can of diesel fuel behind your recliner and very stinky socks after wearing them a month never washed on the back of the recliner and Das Boot on and it would be like you were back in time.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 08:53 PM (fwDg9)

81 I remember a time when Predator was the go-to at all Audio-Video stores for impressing the rubes looking to pick up a $5000 home system. The sound was pretty impressive and Dutch was a badass.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 13, 2024 08:53 PM (J3ryZ)

82 I liked Donnie Darko, BUT you had to spend a couple hours on obscure websites after you saw it, just to figure what the hell you just saw.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 13, 2024 08:53 PM (S6gqv)

83 Apropos of nothing, I think there are two kinds of people in this world; those that think Donnie Darko is a masterpiece and those that think w.t.f?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 13, 2024 08:26 PM (aD39U)

I watched it a long time ago, and different times and places can change one's perspective. It has a tone to it that resonated with me at the time, but if I watched it now, it probably would not.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:54 PM (EvQC2)

84 I am Yiorgos...
http://tinyurl.com/5n966tt8

Posted by: Yiorgos at January 13, 2024 08:54 PM (ynpvh)

85 When I saw "The Boys in the Boat", there were two previews: one for a foreign film about a beautiful diverse inclusive blended family, and one for Jason Statham's "The Beekeeper", replete with 'splosions, face punching, car chases, and pushing people through plate glass and/or setting them on fire.

Not exactly tailoring the preview for the audience, unless your audience is a bunch of gay redneck NASCAR fans who love sensitive subtitled films.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 08:54 PM (+RQPJ)

86 She says it was real in multiple interviews. Speaks of tequila shots of courage and lying to her family about their being any nude scenes.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:24 PM (GB0ku)

Dammit! I guess I have to watch it again.

Such a chore.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:55 PM (puc/+)

87 Not exactly tailoring the preview for the audience, unless your audience is a bunch of gay redneck NASCAR fans who love sensitive subtitled films.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 08:54 PM (+RQPJ)

When I saw Godzilla Minus One, two of the previews were for The Beekeeper and that Freud vs Lewis thing (I forget the title). Maybe I'm showing my age but if you stuck a gun in my face and told me to choose I'd choose the Freud thing.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 08:56 PM (H5IZ1)

88 I liked Donnie Darko, BUT you had to spend a couple hours on obscure websites after you saw it, just to figure what the hell you just saw.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 13, 2024 08:53 PM (S6gqv)

Now that you mention it, the thing comes off as very derivative of a Lynch film.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 08:57 PM (yX885)

89 Not exactly tailoring the preview for the audience, unless your audience is a bunch of gay redneck NASCAR fans who love sensitive subtitled films.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 08:54 PM (+RQPJ)

Gay rednecks have feelings, too.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 08:57 PM (yf+dE)

90 Mark Ruffalo SMASH!!! Wait no Mark is...SMART. SMART VERY SMART! Mark RUFFALO SEXY!!! VERY SEXY SMART

Posted by: Mark Ruffalo at January 13, 2024 08:59 PM (ibTVg)

91 She says it was real in multiple interviews. Speaks of tequila shots of courage and lying to her family about their being any nude scenes.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 13, 2024 08:24 PM (GB0ku)

You know, maybe I'm a wet blanket, but perhaps if you have to drink tequila and lie to your family, maybe just don't do it?

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:00 PM (H5IZ1)

92 Freud vs Lewis on Pay Per View!

*ding ding*

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 09:01 PM (+RQPJ)

93 You know prior to 2019 I thought the "evil mad scientist" trope was stupid.

And...nope. Turns out I was. People are a lot worse then I thought.

And speaking of Dr Fauci...apparently now he says that it is not a racist conspiracy theory to say it came from the Wuhan lab...The origin is getting a lot closer to home with him as they say

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:01 PM (ibTVg)

94 Jerome Weiselberry posted her review of The Sound Of Freedom.

https://youtu.be/visl1q8h8Pk

The comments section is, as you might guess, moronic. Apparently because Tim Ballard falls short of the Christian ideal of not being a womanizing turd this somehow invalidates the entire movie.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:02 PM (9Pnxy)

95 I liked Donnie Darko, BUT you had to spend a couple hours on obscure websites after you saw it, just to figure what the hell you just saw.

My exact reaction and view of that movie!

I think that does point to needing a re-work to hint at those points. You don't need to do a Zach Snyder "now I am going to spell the plot twist" but...a little more explanation of why all the things happened the way they did in the movie would have helped.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:03 PM (ibTVg)

96 Jerome Weiselberry posted her review of The Sound Of Freedom.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:02 PM (9Pnxy)

I'm on a hiatus from YouTube (time sink) and I was going to ask who that was, but then I realized the first name was 'Jerome' and the pronoun was 'her' and I was like aaaaahhhh I think I know where this is going.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:04 PM (H5IZ1)

97 18 I'm a big Wes Anderson fan. I saw that there was a new Wes Anderson movie on Amazon, and I set aside time to watch it. I was really excited and enjoyed the first 12 or so minutes immensely, because it set up a lot of characters the way that I enjoy him doing.

Then I turned it off because The Gay happened, and I don't know if I'll finish it. Although I'll admit that I sort of think The Gay occurred in a way to make fun of stereotypes, because the actor and the playwright meet for the first time and start the monkeypox-spreading stuff because, well, Gay actors and Hollywood.
Posted by: Nikki Haley - DeSantis is losing to Nikki and it's Trump's fault at January 13, 2024 07:55 PM (/TehT)

As a big Wes fan, you may like the AI parody trailers of famous films done in a Wes Anderson style.

This one is for Star Wars:

https://youtu.be/d-8DT5Q8kzI?si=rxSaiBZ3a0F1o1dd

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 13, 2024 09:05 PM (aqQRE)

98 Jebus. After three days of this shit I knew this was coming...

It's -25deg F and all of the pipes in and under the house are frozen except for the bathroom. The tires and starter on my truck are screaming bloody murder, but I'm not going to further torment them.

Hunker down and stay warm, Morons!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 13, 2024 09:05 PM (J3ryZ)

99 Mark Ruffalo SMASH!!! Wait no Mark is...SMART. SMART VERY SMART! Mark RUFFALO SEXY!!! VERY SEXY SMART
Posted by: Mark Ruffalo at January 13, 2024 08:59 PM (ibTVg)

I was something of a captive audience a couple weeks ago, and watched the first Avengers film. It doesn't hold up well. Maybe that's due to the success of the franchise, but it just looks so paint-by-numbers now. And characters like Ruffalo's Hulk, it's so shallow watching him brood all through the film, and then finally master his Hulkitude. It's like watching a movie about a witch discovering her powers.

I can do it! Yes, now you go beat the bad guy and save the world. Yay.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:05 PM (QBaJw)

100 Here's two other movies I saw.

Random Harvest and Mrs. Miniver.

Greer Garson. Mmmmmmm!!!!!!!!

Random Harvest is just a really good melodrama. Dude loses his memory, falls in love, gets married, gets hit by a car but forgets he fell in love and got married, meets his wife but doesn't recognize her...it's good. Really, really good.

So was Mrs. Miniver. Slice of life wartime drama with Garson embodying the British stiff upper lip. Very good, but I wouldn't be surprised if Winston Churchill has written the final speech at the end.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:06 PM (EqOOv)

101 I don't think I'll ever understand the allure of those caterpillar eyebrows.
Posted by: IrishEi

Eyebrows keep sweat out of your eyes. A good pair allows you to be more "energetic" in most circumstances.

I don't find them appealing either, but I guess that would make sense to someone?

The look I've never understood is the pale bottle-blonde with black eyebrows. Do eyebrow hairs just not take to bleaching and dyeing?

Posted by: mikeski at January 13, 2024 09:07 PM (DgGvY)

102 And characters like Ruffalo's Hulk, it's so shallow watching him brood all through the film, and then finally master his Hulkitude. It's like watching a movie about a witch discovering her powers.

I think Marvel got lucky with Hemsworth, RDJ, Hiddleston and a few others to build out their cinematic world.

But Ruffalo is a second rate actor. And when you watch him with other better actors it really becomes obvious...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:07 PM (ibTVg)

103 As a big Wes fan, you may like the AI parody trailers of famous films done in a Wes Anderson style.

This one is for Star Wars:

https://youtu.be/d-8DT5Q8kzI?si=rxSaiBZ3a0F1o1dd
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 13, 2024 09:05 PM (aqQRE)

Heh, that was pretty good. I especially liked Owen Wilson, that part made me larf.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:08 PM (QBaJw)

104 You know, maybe I'm a wet blanket, but perhaps if you have to drink tequila and lie to your family, maybe just don't do it?
Posted by: Vanya

But how can you play the Victim Card later?

Posted by: mikeski at January 13, 2024 09:09 PM (DgGvY)

105 But Ruffalo is a second rate actor. And when you watch him with other better actors it really becomes obvious...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:07 PM (ibTVg)

Yeah, I think Scarlett has real talent, and they have several scenes together, where they seem to be trying to make them a thing.

Don't do it, Natasha! He's a ninny on steroids!!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:09 PM (QBaJw)

106 I finally saw Nefarious on Prime. My goodness, it was so much better than I expected. I'm still thinking about it a week later.

Also saw Equalizer 3. It was what I expected. I liked it okay.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:10 PM (BKOUD)

107 I'm on a hiatus from YouTube (time sink) and I was going to ask who that was, but then I realized the first name was 'Jerome' and the pronoun was 'her' and I was like aaaaahhhh I think I know where this is going.
Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:04 PM (H5IZ1)

No, no, nothing like that. It's a pseudonym to help protect her privacy. She's a very intelligent and cute girly girl with perky little B cups that enjoys old movies. I've really been enjoying her reviews. She's led me to check out more than a few very good old films that I probably would never have normally considered such as the two Garson movies mentioned above.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:10 PM (EqOOv)

108
Random Harvest is just a really good melodrama. Dude loses his memory, falls in love, gets married, gets hit by a car but forgets he fell in love and got married, meets his wife but doesn't recognize her...it's good. Really, really good.

PAULA!

Posted by: Smitty at January 13, 2024 09:10 PM (63Dwl)

109 It's -25deg F and all of the pipes in and under the house are frozen except for the bathroom. The tires and starter on my truck are screaming bloody murder, but I'm not going to further torment them.

Hunker down and stay warm, Morons!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 13, 2024 09:05 PM (J3ryZ)

My kitchen zink periodically has very low water pressure. I don't know why. It's certainly not from the cold.

It's prolly still around 40F out there right now.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:11 PM (QBaJw)

110 But how can you play the Victim Card later?

I remember Jennifer Connolly complaining that sexist directors stressed her looks in movies and...as a second rate actress she never, ever would have been cast without her looks.

And the odd thing with her is that the film I would regret most, were I her, was Trainspotting. The movie does make a good point, but were I her there is no way I would have done THAT scene.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:12 PM (ibTVg)

111 I can do it! Yes, now you go beat the bad guy and save the world. Yay.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:05 PM (QBaJw)

Marvel has only one plot. The Bad Guy has the Thing and he's going to destroy the world/enslave all life/brainwash all living things/beat Hillary Clinton in 2016/save 15% or more on his car insurance unless he is stopped. The Hero challenges him, the Hero is Brought Low, the Hero slinks away and discovers that The Power Was In Me All Along, comes back and wins. Wham bam CGI comic relief scene wham pow sarcastic quip pow GOOD GUYS WIN roll credits.

And yeah, they've absolutely wrung every drop of use out of it over the last 15 years.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the MCU and DCEU are professional wrestling via CGI. Nothing wrong with that, the WWE printed money with big names and good characters, but that's all it is. Looking for more than that is usually futile.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:12 PM (H5IZ1)

112 Emma doesn't do much for me, no idea why

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 09:12 PM (fwDg9)

113 Emma doesn't do much for me, no idea why
Posted by: Skip

Skip, you and I are in the same boat. I do not understand the attraction.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:14 PM (BKOUD)

114 Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:10 PM (EqOOv)

Hmm, good to know-- nice to be wrong about something like that. I'll have to check her out when the hiatus is over.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:14 PM (H5IZ1)

115 Just got here and would like to say that the girl in the top pic looks
w e i r d.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 13, 2024 09:16 PM (jnt+a)

116 I also saw a film called Sisu about a Finnish prospector in WWII. It's got a John Wick vibe in that the Nazis cannot seem to kill him. Aksel Hennie plays the Nazi leader. He's always good.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:17 PM (BKOUD)

117 I've said it before and I'll say it again: the MCU and DCEU are professional wrestling via CGI. Nothing wrong with that, the WWE printed money with big names and good characters, but that's all it is. Looking for more than that is usually futile.
Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:12 PM (H5IZ1)

I can be very easy to please, with movies, but I have to say, even watching Civil War the first time, it was like the characters were all acting like babies. Ooh, we're gonna fight... each other! Cuz, the name of the movie. No other reason than that.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:17 PM (QBaJw)

118 Emma doesn't do much for me, no idea why
Posted by: Skip

Skip, you and I are in the same boat. I do not understand the attraction.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:14 PM (BKOUD)

She's an extremely average looking woman, but does manage to emote a sweetness about her in the things I've seen. That counts for something.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:19 PM (QBaJw)

119 there is no way I would have done THAT scene.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:12 PM (ibTVg)

A "THAT scene" you say?

I've never seen Trainspotting. What is that scene?

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:19 PM (QUP6v)

120 I can be very easy to please, with movies, but I have to say, even watching Civil War the first time, it was like the characters were all acting like babies. Ooh, we're gonna fight... each other! Cuz, the name of the movie. No other reason than that.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:17 PM (QBaJw)

All they need is that ringside announcer in the cowboy hat to scream "OH MY GOD!!!!" whenever there's a villain appearance.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:21 PM (H5IZ1)

121 I remember Jennifer Connolly complaining that sexist directors stressed her looks in movies and...as a second rate actress she never, ever would have been cast without her looks.

And the odd thing with her is that the film I would regret most, were I her, was Trainspotting. The movie does make a good point, but were I her there is no way I would have done THAT scene.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:12 PM (ibTVg)

Speaking of, I watched "Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane" last week. I was shocked to see... a nude scene with Jodi Foster! Holy cripes! Is that really her???

I should hope not, I don't know how old she was during the filming, but her character was 13.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:21 PM (QBaJw)

122 Movies and video games need some new historic periods to mine because holy shit am I sick of Nazis.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:22 PM (H5IZ1)

123 A "THAT scene" you say?

I've never seen Trainspotting. What is that scene?

So...I can't give you a link to youtube because...you have to go to an adult site to see it.

The point of the movie is the degradation that drug addiction can lead people to. Connelly's character certainly embraces that.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:23 PM (ibTVg)

124 If you are ever concerned about frozen pipes, better to just shut the water off and empty the pipes when you prepare for the cold weather. Less a hassle than burst pipes.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 09:23 PM (MNhXM)

125 I've never seen Trainspotting. What is that scene?
Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:19 PM (QUP6v)

I've never seen the movie, don't plan to. But it's about heroin addicts, so I would assume there's degrading scenes involving having to do things for money.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:23 PM (QBaJw)

126 THAT scene was in Requium for a Dream.

Posted by: davidt at January 13, 2024 09:25 PM (SYTee)

127 Movie recommendation for the current weather conditions.

Death Hunt with Lee Marvin and Charles Bronson.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 09:25 PM (MNhXM)

128 THAT scene was in Requium for a Dream.
Posted by: davidt at January 13, 2024 09:25 PM (SYTee)

I was thinking that, the famous Jennifer Connolly degenerate scene was from Requiem.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:26 PM (H5IZ1)

129 Movies and video games need some new historic periods to mine because holy shit am I sick of Nazis.
Posted by: Vanya

There's an entire sub-genre of horror movies about zombie Nazis. Also Nazis on the moon and under Antarctica.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:26 PM (BKOUD)

130 110:And the odd thing with her is that the film I would regret most, were I her, was Trainspotting. The movie does make a good point, but were I her there is no way I would have done THAT scene.
Posted by: 18-1

She was in Trainspotting?? Requiem for a Dream (similar kind of movie), she was in that. I don't remember her in Trainspotting. If she was, she did a fine Scottish accent.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 13, 2024 09:26 PM (PGK1w)

131 Movie recommendation for the current weather conditions.

Death Hunt with Lee Marvin and Charles Bronson.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 09:25 PM (MNhXM)

Dr. Zhivago
Stalingrad

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:27 PM (H5IZ1)

132 Pretty Baby is the movie that never should have been made.

Brooke Shield’s mother should have done time for that.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 09:28 PM (MNhXM)

133 THAT scene was in Requium for a Dream.

Oh wait...that's right.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:28 PM (ibTVg)

134 Movies and video games need some new historic periods to mine because holy shit am I sick of Nazis.

The games I play are more likely set in the middle ages or the bronze age.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:29 PM (ibTVg)

135 Here's a mildly amusing marginally movie-related anecdote.

Years ago I was at a family gathering. My younger sister was seated to my left, her teenage son across from us.

They were talking about his girlfriend, named Jasmine. I did a quick IMDb check on what year Aladdin premiered and did a quick calculation. I said to my nephew, "So, she's fifteen?" Which he confirmed.

My sister, who had had a drink or two by then, got irate. "You told me she was sixteen!"

I excused myself from the table and took a little walk while they proceeded to "discuss" the matter.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I can show you the world at January 13, 2024 09:29 PM (jfdO+)

136 Speaking of, I watched "Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane" last week. I was shocked to see... a nude scene with Jodi Foster! Holy cripes! Is that really her???

I should hope not, I don't know how old she was during the filming, but her character was 13.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:21 PM (QBaJw)

According to Wikidingdong it was a body double.

Specifically her 21 year old sister.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:31 PM (haGDE)

137 Another plug for Union of Salvation link I put up way up above.
It's well acted, costumes are awesome ( comments in the 8 part episodes wonder about dress uniforms but at least Napoleonic era fans think they went very well) and it's fairly good with historical accuracy. Actually if you see the 8 parts it's even better in accuracy.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 09:32 PM (fwDg9)

138 MST3K is on all the time on YT now. Yay me!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 13, 2024 09:32 PM (8sMut)

139 What the hell is "peacock"? It took over the NFL football game I was watching.

Posted by: Theodore at January 13, 2024 09:32 PM (pGonq)

140 I've said it before and I'll say it again: the MCU and DCEU are professional wrestling via CGI. Nothing wrong with that, the WWE printed money with big names and good characters, but that's all it is. Looking for more than that is usually futile.
Posted by: Vanya

And the combos in some of the movies. Hulk, Thor, and Black Widow? A mutant with infinite strength, a physical god on Earth, and..... a human woman somewhere between James Bond and Batman?

To link to the other discussion going on, she was there because someone had to bring the superpower "look hot in a catsuit."

Posted by: mikeski at January 13, 2024 09:33 PM (DgGvY)

141 MST3K is on all the time on YT now. Yay me!
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

I've been watching it since before Christmas! In fact I'm watching Pumaman right now. How nice is that?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:34 PM (BKOUD)

142 I should hope not, I don't know how old she was during the filming, but her character was 13.
Posted by: BurtTC

According to Wikidingdong it was a body double.
Specifically her 21 year old sister.
Posted by: Robert

Thanksgiving-table discussions were fun that year!

Posted by: .....probably at January 13, 2024 09:34 PM (DgGvY)

143 So...I can't give you a link to youtube because...you have to go to an adult site to see it.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:23 PM (ibTVg)

Good thing I'm an adult!

Gonna 'dult myself on over to *mumblemumble*.

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:34 PM (haGDE)

144 116 I also saw a film called Sisu about a Finnish prospector in WWII. It's got a John Wick vibe in that the Nazis cannot seem to kill him. Aksel Hennie plays the Nazi leader. He's always good.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:17 PM (BKOUD)

Saw it in the theater last year. Good movie.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 13, 2024 09:35 PM (8sMut)

145 131 Movie recommendation for the current weather conditions.

Death Hunt with Lee Marvin and Charles Bronson.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 09:25 PM (MNhXM)

Dr. Zhivago
Stalingrad
Posted by: Vanya

'Death Hunt'. I liked that movie. Nothing fancy. Just Charles Bronson killing and maiming across the west while being pursued by a posse lead by Lee Marvin, also killing and maiming across the west. Beautiful scenery and a 'happy' ending. Haven't seen it in a long time. I wonder if I'd still like it.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 13, 2024 09:35 PM (PGK1w)

146 Lara's Theme is one of my favorite snow shoveling snow, that and 16 Tons

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 09:35 PM (fwDg9)

147 According to Wikidingdong it was a body double.

Specifically her 21 year old sister.

I don't really understand why there is a need for underage nudity. In this case the director got around the law and I'll admit I never saw the movie so maybe I'm just spouting off...but presuming someone was abusing her why do you need to show the act?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:35 PM (ibTVg)

148 Stalingrad is one of those movies I really liked and never want to see again. 'City of God' too.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 13, 2024 09:36 PM (PGK1w)

149 And Union of Salvation takes place in December and January

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 09:36 PM (fwDg9)

150 >Movie recommendation for the current weather conditions.

Hateful 8

Posted by: davidt at January 13, 2024 09:37 PM (SYTee)

151 And the combos in some of the movies. Hulk, Thor, and Black Widow? A mutant with infinite strength, a physical god on Earth, and..... a human woman somewhere between James Bond and Batman?

Her ability is supposed to be she is a great spy.

But since they had her standing side to side next to the rest of the Avengers many times in public that spy thing isn't very believable.

TBH it could have been a great role where she was always the person giving the rest of the Avengers intel or setting up ambushes and such for them but...then she wouldn't have the MOST OBVIOUS girlboss...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:37 PM (ibTVg)

152 Brooke Shields was naked in Pretty Baby and it wasn’t a body double.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 09:37 PM (MNhXM)

153 Which Stalingrad movie, saw 1 on German side, started another by Russian on YouTube but haven't finished it

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 09:38 PM (fwDg9)

154
>Movie recommendation for the current weather conditions

The Thing

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2024 09:38 PM (63Dwl)

155 I don't really understand why there is a need for underage nudity. In this case the director got around the law and I'll admit I never saw the movie so maybe I'm just spouting off...but presuming someone was abusing her why do you need to show the act?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:35 PM (ibTVg)

Probably goes without saying, it's unnecessary for the film.

The story is about a perv who is basically stalking her, and she's a very mature for her age girl, in an unusual circumstance. Not what I was expecting when I watched it, and can't recommend on any level to anyone.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2024 09:39 PM (QBaJw)

156 Jody Foster in House By the Woods had her sister as a body double

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 09:39 PM (fwDg9)

157 Movie for current weather - Frozen, obviously.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 13, 2024 09:39 PM (S6gqv)

158 >Movie recommendation for the current weather conditions.

The Thing

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 13, 2024 09:39 PM (PGK1w)

159 Which Stalingrad movie, saw 1 on German side, started another by Russian on YouTube but haven't finished it
Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 09:38 PM (fwDg9)

The version I saw was German.

Spoilers: Basically everyone dies.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:40 PM (H5IZ1)

160 Ok, better get to bed, not no night shift next week though as certainly as the sun comes up will be the week after if not sooner.
Have a great evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2024 09:41 PM (fwDg9)

161 I'm not a huge Wes Anderson fan, although I've watched most (I think) of his films. I find his obsession with visual symmetry kinda annoying

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 13, 2024 09:41 PM (sJHOI)

162 Movie recommendation for the current weather conditions.

The Big Chill.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 13, 2024 09:41 PM (dZVON)

163 Pumaman LoL!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 13, 2024 09:42 PM (S6gqv)

164 I don't really understand why there is a need for underage nudity. In this case the director got around the law and I'll admit I never saw the movie so maybe I'm just spouting off...but presuming someone was abusing her why do you need to show the act?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:35 PM (ibTVg)

It's totally unnecessary. It's there to shock. And because the people who are in charge of these things are twisted weirdos.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:42 PM (H5IZ1)

165 62 Would the bank shoot-out sequence from Heat be a good test for a surround-sound system?
Posted by: davidt at January 13, 2024 08:40 PM (SYTee)

Saving Private Ryan is good for testing surround sound.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 13, 2024 09:42 PM (8sMut)

166 "In fact I'm watching Pumaman right now. How nice is that?
Posted by: Blutarski, "

He flies like a Moron!

Posted by: fd at January 13, 2024 09:43 PM (vFG9F)

167 Willem Dafoe had to spend nine hours in the makeup chair to look slightly scarier than usual.
====

Heh.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 13, 2024 09:44 PM (RIvkX)

168 TBH it could have been a great role where she was always the person giving the rest of the Avengers intel or setting up ambushes and such for them but...then she wouldn't have the MOST OBVIOUS girlboss...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 09:37 PM (ibTVg)

She also must have Glock magazines stuffed up her butt or something because there are no pouches or rig on that suit.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:44 PM (H5IZ1)

169 He flies like a Moron!
Posted by: fd

And now Devil Fish, where Italians pretend to be Floridians.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:44 PM (BKOUD)

170 Stalingrad is one of those movies I really liked and never want to see again. 'City of God' too.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 13, 2024 09:36 PM (PGK1w)

Mine is 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane'. It's very, very well done and I never want to look at it again.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:46 PM (H5IZ1)

171 Movie recommendation for the current weather conditions.

Eiger Sanction

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 13, 2024 09:46 PM (sJHOI)

172 Mine is 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane'. It's very, very well done and I never want to look at it again.
Posted by: Vanya

Mine is Papillon.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:46 PM (BKOUD)

173 BurtTC,
http://tinyurl.com/2f49xwcn

Posted by: Braenyard at January 13, 2024 09:48 PM (jnt+a)

174 Okay, had to look up Puna Man.

https://youtu.be/GhRdUM8WKXE

Posted by: Robert at January 13, 2024 09:48 PM (FHHkD)

175 @102

>>But Ruffalo is a second rate actor.

You do a real injustice to second rate actors by lumping them in with Ruffalo.

Having said that, he's been in a crap ton of indie films so he has built up industry cred that way, that's what probably got him the marvel gig.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 13, 2024 09:50 PM (XV/Pl)

176 In Pumaman, the archvillain Donald Pleasence dresses like Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:52 PM (BKOUD)

177 There's an entire sub-genre of horror movies about zombie Nazis. Also Nazis on the moon and under Antarctica.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at January 13, 2024 09:26 PM (BKOUD)

Oh, yeah. Valley of the Dead. It is a Spanish Civil War flick with zombies . . . That were created by the Nazis

Posted by: Kindltot at January 13, 2024 09:53 PM (D7oie)

178 Having said that, he's been in a crap ton of indie films so he has built up industry cred that way, that's what probably got him the marvel gig.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 13, 2024 09:50 PM (XV/Pl)

He's also a True Believer in all their hard left wing BS.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:53 PM (H5IZ1)

179 157 Movie for current weather - Frozen, obviously.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 13, 2024 09:39 PM (S6gqv)
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If it's the "Frozen" about the people stuck on a ski lift overnight, then yes, that's a perfect cold weather movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 09:53 PM (+RQPJ)

180 It is a Spanish Civil War flick with zombies . . . That were created by the Nazis
Posted by: Kindltot at January 13, 2024 09:53 PM (D7oie)

But the Nazis were on the side of... Oh, never mind.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:54 PM (H5IZ1)

181 @161

>>I'm not a huge Wes Anderson fan, although I've watched most (I think) of his films. I find his obsession with visual symmetry kinda annoying

His films are visual whimsy and nostalgia, sweet, harmless puffballs.

The Royal Tenenbaums is probably his best film.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 13, 2024 09:55 PM (XV/Pl)

182 Did they ever make a movie about Robert Falcon Scott?

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:55 PM (H5IZ1)

183 We will never find villains as sartorially dashing as the Nazis again.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 09:56 PM (+RQPJ)

184 @178

>>He's also a True Believer in all their hard left wing BS.

Being a leftist has only helped his career, it's a smart move on his part, being a no talent ass clown and all.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 13, 2024 09:56 PM (XV/Pl)

185 The Thing
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2024 09:38 PM (63Dwl)

I was thinking of the movie as I was putting on my parka this morning to walk down to the post office.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 13, 2024 09:57 PM (D7oie)

186 Being a leftist has only helped his career, it's a smart move on his part, being a no talent ass clown and all.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 13, 2024 09:56 PM (XV/Pl)

Yes-- That's what I was trying to say. He's done a lot of work, AND he's free labor for the Left.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:58 PM (H5IZ1)

187 We will never find villains as sartorially dashing as the Nazis again.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 13, 2024 09:56 PM (+RQPJ)

That's why history is so important. We need an IP with European Hussar villains. Have you ever seen those uniforms? Those guys had flash.

Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 10:00 PM (H5IZ1)

188 We will never find villains as sartorially dashing as the Nazis again.

The Patriot disagrees.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 10:01 PM (ibTVg)

189 But the Nazis were on the side of... Oh, never mind.
Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:54 PM (H5IZ1)

See, that's the twist, a band of Republicans capture a Nationalist officer and in retreating from the re-animated dead, - which apparently is the Beta test of the technology - stumble into a handful of other Republican troops, and they all have to survive by escaping the valley.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 13, 2024 10:02 PM (D7oie)

190 NOOD outside...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 13, 2024 10:04 PM (ibTVg)

191 Movie recommendation for the current weather conditions.

Death Hunt with Lee Marvin and Charles Bronson.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 13, 2024 09:25 PM (MNhXM)

Dr. Zhivago
Stalingrad
Posted by: Vanya at January 13, 2024 09:27 PM (H5IZ1)

Dr. Zhivago is the coldest movie I have ever seen. Colder than Ice Station Zebra.

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