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Gun Thread: Numbero Uno of el 2024 Edition!
(has begun)
LaPierre is OUT! LaPierre is OUT!!
Oh, wonderful, joyous and happy day! Effective January 31st, Wayne LaPierre is OUT as head of the NRA! As I have said a bunch of times, this guy has drawn too much negative attention from within the organization and had become nothing more than a major distraction from the stated purpose of the organization. I don't know if any (or all) of the accusations of financial irregularities are true, but even if a few of them have merit, well, I truly hope he suffers the legal consequences. Adios Wayne! Here are a couple perspectives on the news from the online 2nd Amendment community.
A: Why yes, yes I am. Here's the tactical guy with a Really Big Watch reviewing how to grip a handgun.
A: If only we knew. If only we knew.
As long as we're looking at guns being made, let's take a peek inside the Norma Ammunition factory for funsies.
Well, you and the electrical power grid. Buy batteries!
Musical Interlude
Two hours of Danny Gatton being Danny Gatton.
Gun Basics 101
New video from the She Equips Herself gal! This week's video is on concealed carry whilst shopping..
I've reviewed several Joya de Nicaragua cigars here before, and noted that the company is the oldest cigar outfit in Nicaragua, opening prior to the exodus of Cuban growers and makers that has led to Nicaragua's becoming the center of the non-Cuban cigar universe. The Antano was one of the sticks that put the company on the map in the premium cigar world. Haven't tried it - it's reportedly a powerhouse stick that would probably be above my strength preference - but the company did a slick thing and took the same blend, but aged the filler for a few extra years first. This mellows the experience. The Antano Gran Reserva, I figured, was more in my lane. And so it is. A beautiful dark brown, softly box-pressed cigar, it's soft in the hand and has a rich sweet aroma before lighting. The draw was easy, the smoke as voluminous and thick as any I've yet seen, the burn line required little touching up. For flavors, a rich earthy and tobacco sweetness best sums it up for me. This stick falls in the medium-full spot on the spectrum. You can find it online for around $7.Bigly excellent as always, rhomboid! Thank you!
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Cigarbid.com A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
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Comments
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BANG!!!! Happy New Year!!! To the content!!!
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:00 PM (f0/sc)
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st!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2024 07:00 PM (fwDg9)
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Weasel!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:01 PM (E7aft)
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Damn it, Scoob!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)
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In now, back later. Finishing cooking evening meal.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 07:01 PM (81RcT)
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Well done Scoob.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 07, 2024 07:02 PM (HeECw)
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Is that an ammo chess board?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:02 PM (sSx7k)
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Yeah, I read some of the content. Rookie move.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:03 PM (sSx7k)
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Made it in from snow removal just too late for the Food Thread, but made a fantastic braised lamb shank yesterday for lunch today. Perfect thing for a snowy day.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:03 PM (Wnv9h)
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Buddy just had a Beretta 92 FS in .40 cal blow up. Chunk stuck in the overhead at our indoor range.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:04 PM (E7aft)
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:04 PM (f0/sc)
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Weasel, are you an NRA member? Because we had a lot of seconds to my nomination of you for Pres of NRA the other evening.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:04 PM (sSx7k)
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Isn't the Beretta 92 the civilian version of the M9? Because that would explain much about its popularity.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:05 PM (sSx7k)
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The Gub!
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 07:05 PM (V8he0)
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8 Is that an ammo chess board?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:02 PM
I thought the exact same thing. Bet there is one out there made from spent shell casings.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:02 PM
I thought the exact same thing. Bet there is one out there made from spent shell casings.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:06 PM (f0/sc)
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gun thread Sunday. Always a good day.
No range report this week. Neither the weather nor my body felt like cooperating with a range trip.
Next weekend, hopefully.
Thanks again, Weasel!
No range report this week. Neither the weather nor my body felt like cooperating with a range trip.
Next weekend, hopefully.
Thanks again, Weasel!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:06 PM (tT6L1)
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Good to see Wayne LaPenis heading off into the sunset.
Lifelong grifter, he must have finally stole enough money and has enough whores in tow to keep him in high cotton until he shuffles off his mortal coil.
Good. Riddance. And don't let the door hit ya where your whore done licked ya.
Lifelong grifter, he must have finally stole enough money and has enough whores in tow to keep him in high cotton until he shuffles off his mortal coil.
Good. Riddance. And don't let the door hit ya where your whore done licked ya.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2024 07:07 PM (R/m4+)
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Scoobs ushers in the New Year. With RMBS a close second!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:07 PM (E7aft)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 07:07 PM (a3Q+t)
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11 Buddy just had a Beretta 92 FS in .40 cal blow up. Chunk stuck in the overhead at our indoor range.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:04 PM (E7aft)
In before everyone says .40 is terrible and awful and no one should be shooting it anyway.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:04 PM (E7aft)
In before everyone says .40 is terrible and awful and no one should be shooting it anyway.
Posted by: Prisoner #60638, Cell Block H at January 07, 2024 07:07 PM (IFNME)
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Anybody else a fan of the Beretta?
Pistols? Not so much, but my only experience is with a slushy service pistol. I do have a nice 12 ga. Silver Hawk SxS from the 60's though. Nice piece.
Pistols? Not so much, but my only experience is with a slushy service pistol. I do have a nice 12 ga. Silver Hawk SxS from the 60's though. Nice piece.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:08 PM (Wnv9h)
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13 Weasel, are you an NRA member? Because we had a lot of seconds to my nomination of you for Pres of NRA the other evening.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:04 PM (sSx7k)
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Yes, but I should never be let anywhere near a position of responsibility!
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:04 PM (sSx7k)
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Yes, but I should never be let anywhere near a position of responsibility!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 07:08 PM (JwHpX)
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Why did the Beretta 92 become so popular? I think the movie "Lethal Weapon" might have had something to do with it.
It was Martin Riggs side arm in the movie and the scene in the shooting range where he proceeds to shoot a smiley face in the target at xx distance away was something that made an impression on me.
It was Martin Riggs side arm in the movie and the scene in the shooting range where he proceeds to shoot a smiley face in the target at xx distance away was something that made an impression on me.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (f0/sc)
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No range report this week. Neither the weather nor my body felt like cooperating with a range trip.
Dammit, blake, you used my excuse!
Dammit, blake, you used my excuse!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (E7aft)
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The NRA just needs to apoint Rob Province as its head, and then declare itself an organized militia..... then take over the entire north west.
Posted by: Rbastid at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (Dqb19)
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Scoobs ushers in the New Year. With RMBS a close second!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:07 PM
In my defense, I was pouring a much-needed martini.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:07 PM
In my defense, I was pouring a much-needed martini.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (Wnv9h)
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I presume that anyone nominated for NRA BoD by the nominating committee is still a LaPierre lackey but just maybe we can get one or two who isn't. I used to check the Neal Knox website for recommendations but for maybe a decade now their recommendation has basically been "don't bother."
Posted by: Oddbob at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (sNc8Y)
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Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea!
Just back from DMV MGC and Mini MoMe. This time there were 9 attendees. 9. It's almost like a full on MoMe anymore.
Just back from DMV MGC and Mini MoMe. This time there were 9 attendees. 9. It's almost like a full on MoMe anymore.
Posted by: Prisoner #60638, Cell Block H at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (IFNME)
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I thought the exact same thing. Bet there is one out there made from spent shell casings.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:06 PM (f0/sc)
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I was thinking it wouldn't be hard to designate cartridges for pieces on a chess board. For instance 45 acp for the Rook, 9 mm for the bishop. 30.06 for the King, 22 lr for pawns 300 Win Mag for the Queen, 303 British for the Knight..and, good to go!
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:06 PM (f0/sc)
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I was thinking it wouldn't be hard to designate cartridges for pieces on a chess board. For instance 45 acp for the Rook, 9 mm for the bishop. 30.06 for the King, 22 lr for pawns 300 Win Mag for the Queen, 303 British for the Knight..and, good to go!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:10 PM (tT6L1)
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Dammit, blake, you used my excuse!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM
You guys get much global warming up your way?
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM
You guys get much global warming up your way?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:10 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: The AoS Gubbers at January 07, 2024 07:11 PM (V8he0)
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Anybody else a fan of the Beretta?
The script writing could have been better, but the cockatoo made the show.
The script writing could have been better, but the cockatoo made the show.
Posted by: Rbastid at January 07, 2024 07:12 PM (Dqb19)
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19 Scoobs ushers in the New Year. With RMBS a close second!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:07 PM (E7aft)
It was an honor to be first on target. ;-)
Hope you had a good New Year Red.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:07 PM (E7aft)
It was an honor to be first on target. ;-)
Hope you had a good New Year Red.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:12 PM (f0/sc)
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I can tell you that the Beretta Silver Pigeon is a phenomenal O/U.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:12 PM (0PGSy)
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Recvd my 2nd 1911A1 from CMP this past week. It was a field grade (mid grade) Remington Rand Frame, Colt SLide that left the factory in January 1945. That hits my lifetime limit, so I'm going to have to bug Mrs Dude next year to put in for one.
I got a service grade last time ) Remington Rand Frame and Slide) that left the factory in March 1945.
They also have a small lot of M1917 rifles just in after a loooong absence - the American Enfield (30 06 caliber)- mostly from the Eddystone manufacturing plant.
They still have garands and they shouldn't run out until years end for all you fence sitters out there.
Don't be like me when I didn't order the CMP M-1 carbines and ended up paying 2-3 times as much later from the private market after CMP ran out.
I got a service grade last time ) Remington Rand Frame and Slide) that left the factory in March 1945.
They also have a small lot of M1917 rifles just in after a loooong absence - the American Enfield (30 06 caliber)- mostly from the Eddystone manufacturing plant.
They still have garands and they shouldn't run out until years end for all you fence sitters out there.
Don't be like me when I didn't order the CMP M-1 carbines and ended up paying 2-3 times as much later from the private market after CMP ran out.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:12 PM (cCxiu)
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Dammit, blake, you used my excuse!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (E7aft)
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Well, this time of year, it's a solid excuse. I'm pretty sure weasel won't put it down on your permanent record if you use the same defense.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (E7aft)
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Well, this time of year, it's a solid excuse. I'm pretty sure weasel won't put it down on your permanent record if you use the same defense.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:13 PM (tT6L1)
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Loves me some Beretta pistols: 92, 84F, & 85F.
The BM-59 - what the M-14 coulda/shoulda been - is pretty sweet, too.
The BM-59 - what the M-14 coulda/shoulda been - is pretty sweet, too.
Posted by: butch at January 07, 2024 07:13 PM (2ogzT)
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7” both up here and down in Manch. Junior just reported from the airport hotel after a strenuous drive.
But that’s why we have Earth F*cker 5000 Jeep Wranglers with big knobbies - snow tires, that is.
But that’s why we have Earth F*cker 5000 Jeep Wranglers with big knobbies - snow tires, that is.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:14 PM (E7aft)
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Berreta makes fantastic over under shotguns, with ornate metal engravings.
Bring lots of money.
Bring lots of money.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 07, 2024 07:15 PM (MeG8a)
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Don't be like me when I didn't order the CMP M-1 carbines and ended up paying 2-3 times as much later from the private market after CMP ran out.
Posted by: The Walking Dude
Do they still offer Mrs?
Posted by: The Walking Dude
Do they still offer Mrs?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:16 PM (0PGSy)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:17 PM (0PGSy)
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Good evening gub threaders. Good content Weasel. Looking forward to watching the factory videos in particular.
Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 07:17 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Errr, off sock
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 07:17 PM (IFNME)
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Don't be like me when I didn't order the CMP M-1 carbines and ended up paying 2-3 times as much later from the private market after CMP ran out.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:12 PM (cCxiu)
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Heh. A few years ago I walked into a gun shop which had several M1 Carbines for sale. I thought "cool" then looked at the price tag. Gulp!
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:12 PM (cCxiu)
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Heh. A few years ago I walked into a gun shop which had several M1 Carbines for sale. I thought "cool" then looked at the price tag. Gulp!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:17 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 07, 2024 07:18 PM (2yu8s)
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Wayne needed to go. The NRA does some good with grants to gun clubs and such but as a defender of the Second Amendment, no.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:19 PM (tT6L1)
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After a way too long hiatus, was back at the range today. Muscle memory was tested, and after forgetting some important fundamentals I am now back on the right track. Very thankful for the DMV MGC teachers, who finally got thru my thick skull that a lighter gub is not always the better. By the end of the session, I was actually putting bullets in the small red circle on the target. Looking forward to lessons and far more practice sessions. Hope everyone had great NYE celebrations and enjoy a happy 2024.
Posted by: Grateful at January 07, 2024 07:19 PM (IQ6Gq)
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@41(Thomas Paine) - they should start round 5 later this year, watch the CMP website "thecmp dot org".
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:19 PM (cCxiu)
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Berreta makes fantastic over under shotguns, with ornate metal engravings.
Bring lots of money.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
Yes, I thought I spent a lot when I got mine, but looked at prices lately - wow.
Bring lots of money.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
Yes, I thought I spent a lot when I got mine, but looked at prices lately - wow.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:19 PM (0PGSy)
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No range report. May not be one for a bit. Toys are still locked up in the Pelican.
Glad to see LaPierre is finally leaving. Wished he was voted out, but take your wins where you can.
He and his cronies have done more harm than good IMHO.
Hopefully someone who actually believes in the 2nd Amendment and wants to fight for it becomes the NRA's next leader.
Glad to see LaPierre is finally leaving. Wished he was voted out, but take your wins where you can.
He and his cronies have done more harm than good IMHO.
Hopefully someone who actually believes in the 2nd Amendment and wants to fight for it becomes the NRA's next leader.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:21 PM (f0/sc)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:21 PM (0PGSy)
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OK, I've got a few things this week....
Range report:
I took my son to the range Wednesday. It was a member's only day (I used one of my free passes). And the place was kinda packed. My son's AR is now working (he cleaned it and possibly banged on it some), but he ended up causing a problem. I didn't know it was possible to short-stroke the charging handle on an AR. But he did - riding it forward after maybe not pulling it back all the way. So he charged it again without looking... and lo and behold he had 2 rounds in there. It took stripping the magazine out hard to get it to let go of the last bit of the rim so he could clear the weapon.
1/?
Range report:
I took my son to the range Wednesday. It was a member's only day (I used one of my free passes). And the place was kinda packed. My son's AR is now working (he cleaned it and possibly banged on it some), but he ended up causing a problem. I didn't know it was possible to short-stroke the charging handle on an AR. But he did - riding it forward after maybe not pulling it back all the way. So he charged it again without looking... and lo and behold he had 2 rounds in there. It took stripping the magazine out hard to get it to let go of the last bit of the rim so he could clear the weapon.
1/?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:22 PM (sSx7k)
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Spent casings set but with them tooled into shape and decorated:
http://tinyurl.com/4jt2fe34
BTW, to take LIVs into account, I searched Images for 'bullet chess set".
http://tinyurl.com/4jt2fe34
BTW, to take LIVs into account, I searched Images for 'bullet chess set".
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 07, 2024 07:23 PM (2yu8s)
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BTW, to take LIVs into account, I searched Images for 'bullet chess set".
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 07, 2024 07:23 PM (2yu8s)
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Imaging trying to get that chess set through TSA.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 07, 2024 07:23 PM (2yu8s)
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Imaging trying to get that chess set through TSA.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:25 PM (tT6L1)
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I like my Beretta,92 FS. But it always just felt like a huge gun delivering a small package.
That’s why it hasn’t been shot in going-on three years in its vacuum-sealed long term test bag.
May be in a deep lake doing its test.
That’s why it hasn’t been shot in going-on three years in its vacuum-sealed long term test bag.
May be in a deep lake doing its test.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:25 PM (E7aft)
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Is that an ammo chess board?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:02 PM
I thought the exact same thing. Bet there is one out there made from spent shell casings.
Posted by: Scuba Dude
One of the "Riddick" movies (2nd one) had a scene where they were using various live rounds for chess pieces.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:02 PM
I thought the exact same thing. Bet there is one out there made from spent shell casings.
Posted by: Scuba Dude
One of the "Riddick" movies (2nd one) had a scene where they were using various live rounds for chess pieces.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 07:25 PM (cOq4q)
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I recall many years ago seeing a batch of Garands in a Walgreens in Houton of all places for maybe $200 each. If I had only known...
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:26 PM (0PGSy)
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The Beretta remains my nightstand gun to this day. I did upgrade from the 92 to the newer M9A3.
I love the heft, the reliable weight is something I am comfortable with when shooting it.
And she's made in Tennessee!
I love the heft, the reliable weight is something I am comfortable with when shooting it.
And she's made in Tennessee!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 07:26 PM (xrlnV)
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He has a red-dot on the rifle and it zeros pretty well. Even when you take it off to put in the rifle case and put it back on at the range. Yeah, we talked about that.
I think he also needs to push it a little further out over the ejection port. It seemed awfully tight for me.
Then we worked a drill I had targets for. It involves 6 targets and you put 3 on 1, then 2 on the next strong-hand, then 2 on the next weak hand, etc. There's a magazine change in there.
We didn't go for time, but we'll work up to that. He definitely needs some work on his pistoling. He is definitely anticipating the shot. (He was doing that with the AR, btw. When I noticed, he improved.) He is also ... the grip on the G3C for him seems to necessitate actually putting MORE of the finger on the trigger. It helped bring his shots back from the left when he tried that.
2/?
I think he also needs to push it a little further out over the ejection port. It seemed awfully tight for me.
Then we worked a drill I had targets for. It involves 6 targets and you put 3 on 1, then 2 on the next strong-hand, then 2 on the next weak hand, etc. There's a magazine change in there.
We didn't go for time, but we'll work up to that. He definitely needs some work on his pistoling. He is definitely anticipating the shot. (He was doing that with the AR, btw. When I noticed, he improved.) He is also ... the grip on the G3C for him seems to necessitate actually putting MORE of the finger on the trigger. It helped bring his shots back from the left when he tried that.
2/?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:27 PM (sSx7k)
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@42 Thomas - yep they have all 3 grades of H&R and Springfirld M-1 Garand (service 900 bucks, field - 800 bucks and rack grade 700 bucks). Thats a steal at those prices. They are getting down to the end so many of them have new walnut stocks.
They also have some International Harvesters (new barrels and stocks) for 1450 .
They have some chambered in 308 also (new barrels) for matches. at 1150.
These prices are great if you compare them to gunbroker etc. Plus they do a lot to promote marksmanship in young people.
They also have some International Harvesters (new barrels and stocks) for 1450 .
They have some chambered in 308 also (new barrels) for matches. at 1150.
These prices are great if you compare them to gunbroker etc. Plus they do a lot to promote marksmanship in young people.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:27 PM (cCxiu)
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Wayne needed to go. The NRA does some good with grants to gun clubs and such but as a defender of the Second Amendment, no.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:19 PM (tT6L1)
What is needed is a young gun who is in touch with the gun community today to lead the NRA. Brandon Herrera comes to mind as the template.
1) Mandatory weapons classes in every government hi skool as well as rifle and pistol teams for matches, etc.
2) Repeal of the NFA and all it's nonsense.
3) A public rifle/pistol range, in partnership with the CMP, in every county, parrish and hood free of charge for NRA and CMP "members". 100 yards should be fine.
A Man Can Dream.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:19 PM (tT6L1)
What is needed is a young gun who is in touch with the gun community today to lead the NRA. Brandon Herrera comes to mind as the template.
1) Mandatory weapons classes in every government hi skool as well as rifle and pistol teams for matches, etc.
2) Repeal of the NFA and all it's nonsense.
3) A public rifle/pistol range, in partnership with the CMP, in every county, parrish and hood free of charge for NRA and CMP "members". 100 yards should be fine.
A Man Can Dream.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2024 07:28 PM (R/m4+)
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Just a mere couple of hours ago, I received a cotton drawstring bag, chok-fulla assorted screw-in shotgun chokes of all gauges and constrictions.
Also in the bag was a kit, about 6"x2"x1", marked "Perazzi", in which was a specialized wrench, two mainsprings, and what appears to be a pair of automatic ejector plungers with springs.
Now, knowing a bit about Perazzi shotguns, I'm thinking that this is one HELL of a spendy wee bit of kit.
I'm going to have to meticulously sort, catalog and research each and every choke in the bag. There's one rather comprehensive Browning set in there, ten chokes and a wrench.
Some are stainless, but most are blued steel.
Oh, and one wee tiny but gorgeous, set of .410 chokes.
Fun project, ahead!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Also in the bag was a kit, about 6"x2"x1", marked "Perazzi", in which was a specialized wrench, two mainsprings, and what appears to be a pair of automatic ejector plungers with springs.
Now, knowing a bit about Perazzi shotguns, I'm thinking that this is one HELL of a spendy wee bit of kit.
I'm going to have to meticulously sort, catalog and research each and every choke in the bag. There's one rather comprehensive Browning set in there, ten chokes and a wrench.
Some are stainless, but most are blued steel.
Oh, and one wee tiny but gorgeous, set of .410 chokes.
Fun project, ahead!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 07, 2024 07:28 PM (e6UQI)
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Who is the babe up there with Wayne?
Posted by: vic at January 07, 2024 07:29 PM (A5THL)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special hello to our purveyor of all good things, Weasel.
No range time this week, as my local freedom store was having their floor refinished and it didn't dry like they expected it to. All is well now, though, so I'm out of excuses.
No range time this week, as my local freedom store was having their floor refinished and it didn't dry like they expected it to. All is well now, though, so I'm out of excuses.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 07, 2024 07:29 PM (v23vE)
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My carry weapon shot better than it has. I used a boresight recently to confirm the sights are actually NOT my problem. But I was able to pay attention to proper technique and put a bunch of bullets in the center of various targets. I also forgot to follow the rules on the drill target and didn't shoot strong hand on that bullseye. We'll get there.
BTW, I had also cleaned my carry weapon. I think that helped, as I had ZERO FTFs, FTEs, or jams. Which brings me to a review...
3/?
BTW, I had also cleaned my carry weapon. I think that helped, as I had ZERO FTFs, FTEs, or jams. Which brings me to a review...
3/?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:30 PM (sSx7k)
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By the way, I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but, Paul Harrell is turning over his youtube channel to his brother. Sounds like the pancreatic cancer he was diagnosed with last year has really taken hold.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:30 PM (tT6L1)
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Happy First Gun Thread of the New Year to all and sundry!
This week I finally got my Colt Commander slide back from the gunsmith after nearly 4 months of waiting for him to replace the broken front sight. I'd still be waiting if I hadn't finally contacted the folks at Novak Sights myself and gotten them to drop ship a sight to the lazy so and so. He hadn't even bothered to order a replacement. Good people to work with at Novak.
This week I finally got my Colt Commander slide back from the gunsmith after nearly 4 months of waiting for him to replace the broken front sight. I'd still be waiting if I hadn't finally contacted the folks at Novak Sights myself and gotten them to drop ship a sight to the lazy so and so. He hadn't even bothered to order a replacement. Good people to work with at Novak.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 07, 2024 07:31 PM (PWe8a)
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 07, 2024 07:31 PM (2yu8s)
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Happy New Year fellow enthusiasts!
After a month's hiatus, I have a range report! (you can tell I'm enthusiastic by all the exclamation points!)
Because I promised myself a new purchase in the new year and have been eyeing buying another Glock, I asked the members ofthe DMV MGC to bring their favorite 9mms so I could try out some other models and get to shoot side by side with my G48.
Got to shoot a HiPower, actually 2 different models, a P99 and a P226. Considering the layoff, I was surprised at how well I shot no matter what I picked up but Wow, the P226 was great. Now I don't knwo what to do. Thought this would make the decision easier but instead it's more difficult. And expensive because I think I will need to buy 2 now.
After a month's hiatus, I have a range report! (you can tell I'm enthusiastic by all the exclamation points!)
Because I promised myself a new purchase in the new year and have been eyeing buying another Glock, I asked the members ofthe DMV MGC to bring their favorite 9mms so I could try out some other models and get to shoot side by side with my G48.
Got to shoot a HiPower, actually 2 different models, a P99 and a P226. Considering the layoff, I was surprised at how well I shot no matter what I picked up but Wow, the P226 was great. Now I don't knwo what to do. Thought this would make the decision easier but instead it's more difficult. And expensive because I think I will need to buy 2 now.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 07:32 PM (t/2Uw)
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Did weasel say practice your fundamentals?
Yes he did.
So, I took my bedside 1911 to the range and shot 50 rounds. Very slowly. Very deliberately. Focused on breathing, sight alignment and pulling the trigger straight back.
I also put some attention into my posture. Engaging my core. Forcing my shoulders down. Not clenching my jaw.
Good day at the range.
Yes he did.
So, I took my bedside 1911 to the range and shot 50 rounds. Very slowly. Very deliberately. Focused on breathing, sight alignment and pulling the trigger straight back.
I also put some attention into my posture. Engaging my core. Forcing my shoulders down. Not clenching my jaw.
Good day at the range.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 07:32 PM (bTaUx)
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If one examines it closely, one would see that it is a Case-Gard brass holder in which one places empty, clean primed cartridges in order that they may be lovingly filled with magic boom dust.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:33 PM (E7aft)
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45 "Heh. A few years ago I walked into a gun shop which had several M1 Carbines for sale. I thought "cool" then looked at the price tag. Gulp!"
Yep, I have my Dads from WWII (inland) n0 import mark. I picked up another inland, and when we had the Ethiopian returns I got a saginaw and an underwood that were rode hard and put away wet. heh.
Winchester and rockola are on my bucket list, but at those prices that may stay a dream.
Yep, I have my Dads from WWII (inland) n0 import mark. I picked up another inland, and when we had the Ethiopian returns I got a saginaw and an underwood that were rode hard and put away wet. heh.
Winchester and rockola are on my bucket list, but at those prices that may stay a dream.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:33 PM (cCxiu)
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I bought Liberal Tears gun lube for me and my son for Christmas. What the heck, it was a stocking stuffer.
Well, it actually does smell like bacon, so it has that going for it.
However, it is in a pump spray bottle. Which means you canNOT actually target locations on your weapon. And it IS a protectant and such, so it doesn't just wipe off.
What I ended up doing was cleaning my 1911, then spraying this in some places showing wear. Then I sprayed cleaner back on the parts of the weapon I didn't want lubed. And I cleaned it all off. This seems a wasteful way to lube your weapon.
Next time I will try using a sheet of cardboard with a hole in it to try and limit where this stuff goes.
4/?
Well, it actually does smell like bacon, so it has that going for it.
However, it is in a pump spray bottle. Which means you canNOT actually target locations on your weapon. And it IS a protectant and such, so it doesn't just wipe off.
What I ended up doing was cleaning my 1911, then spraying this in some places showing wear. Then I sprayed cleaner back on the parts of the weapon I didn't want lubed. And I cleaned it all off. This seems a wasteful way to lube your weapon.
Next time I will try using a sheet of cardboard with a hole in it to try and limit where this stuff goes.
4/?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:33 PM (sSx7k)
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 07:33 PM (JwHpX)
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Well. I guess I'll have to look at the video, "For Older Shooters".
Actually prefer the one with the dancing girl.
I have a small pistol that has a grip feature, kind of like a rasp, on the outside, front of the trigger guard. I assume they are prompting me to put my off hand forefinger there as part of a grip. Never have.
If the grip guy were to shoot my 1911 he might end up with a bloody purlicue. I have.
Actually prefer the one with the dancing girl.
I have a small pistol that has a grip feature, kind of like a rasp, on the outside, front of the trigger guard. I assume they are prompting me to put my off hand forefinger there as part of a grip. Never have.
If the grip guy were to shoot my 1911 he might end up with a bloody purlicue. I have.
Posted by: javems at January 07, 2024 07:34 PM (8I4hW)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 07, 2024 07:34 PM (XeU6L)
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Hello, Weasel! And Happy New Year to all!
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 07:35 PM (yRXSd)
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Good job, Nurse!
I've been concentrating on rifle so much my pistol practice has taken a back seat.
However, there are plans to rectify that problem in the near future.
I've been concentrating on rifle so much my pistol practice has taken a back seat.
However, there are plans to rectify that problem in the near future.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:36 PM (tT6L1)
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Late supper, but it’s free!
Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2024 07:36 PM (NxC5+)
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I also worked on my AR Beowulf build this week. Or I tried to. Unfortunately, the same thing that stymied me previously was still a problem: the bolt catch roll pin just will NOT go into the hole for it.
So, I emailed PSA, where I bought the lower. It's one of their special engraving ones (F15s and nukes) and I really want to use it for the .50 cal.
PSA service is GREAT! After a little email back and forth and sending them some pictures, they have sent me a new roll pin that is smaller. They did warn me I will have to smack it hard to get it in. I have a new tool for that (more in a moment).
One thing I did that I think helped is I put my almost unused calipers to work. I checked the outside dimensions of the pin, then used the other side of the calipers to check the inside diameter of the hole. It's hard to fit a .101 roll pin inside a .092 hole. Yay! I used my calipers, and used them properly!
5/?
So, I emailed PSA, where I bought the lower. It's one of their special engraving ones (F15s and nukes) and I really want to use it for the .50 cal.
PSA service is GREAT! After a little email back and forth and sending them some pictures, they have sent me a new roll pin that is smaller. They did warn me I will have to smack it hard to get it in. I have a new tool for that (more in a moment).
One thing I did that I think helped is I put my almost unused calipers to work. I checked the outside dimensions of the pin, then used the other side of the calipers to check the inside diameter of the hole. It's hard to fit a .101 roll pin inside a .092 hole. Yay! I used my calipers, and used them properly!
5/?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:38 PM (sSx7k)
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Nurse,
That is precisely what we are planning to do. With hopefully the same result.
Hope your holidays were happy.
That is precisely what we are planning to do. With hopefully the same result.
Hope your holidays were happy.
Posted by: Grateful at January 07, 2024 07:38 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Let's see how long my internet connection lasts. We have a new modem coming tomorrow and hoping that will help. Apparently, eight year old modems aren't reliable.
Anyway, LaPierre going is only a first step. The board members who have been supporting and running interference for him have to go as well. I would love to see the NRA revitalized as a source of fear and consideration for the anti-gunners and politicians.
Anyway, LaPierre going is only a first step. The board members who have been supporting and running interference for him have to go as well. I would love to see the NRA revitalized as a source of fear and consideration for the anti-gunners and politicians.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 07:39 PM (7EjX1)
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I would like an M1 carbine but it looks like those come up rarely.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:39 PM (0PGSy)
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Who is the babe up there with Wayne?
Posted by: vic at January 07, 2024 07:29 PM
The first video? Liberty Doll. Ex-Masshole who's now down in SC.
Never met her when she was still single and in my area. Not cool, life...not cool.
Posted by: vic at January 07, 2024 07:29 PM
The first video? Liberty Doll. Ex-Masshole who's now down in SC.
Never met her when she was still single and in my area. Not cool, life...not cool.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:41 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:41 PM (0PGSy)
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it has now been Revealed that he had been in the Intensive Care Unit at Walter Reed for the last 4 Days and that Deputy Secretary of Defense, Kathleen Hicks assumed his Duties and Powers even though she continued her Vacation in Puerto Rico
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 07:41 PM (lwOKI)
Posted by: mindful webworker - slightly past 29 at January 07, 2024 07:42 PM (yxIYY)
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Whig, I followed up on your tip about used FN High Powers at AIM Surplus. I picked up a lightweight alloy framed High Power circa 1979 on Friday (w/ two spare magazines from AIM Surplus too) and took it to the range w/ the DMVMGC this afternoon. I think the pistol shot just fine. Sights are a bit small, but that's normal for the period. The rest of DMVMGC gave it mixed reviews. Some liked the ergonomics, but others didn't like the increased recoil from the lighter frame. Hrothgar shot well w/ it. I think he's going to order one for himself before they run out at AIM Surplus.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 07:42 PM (yRXSd)
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@84 Thomas, check estate sales. When old gunners like me die, the wives sell off them oily, smelly guns. The nice thing is they rarely know the current value and only remember what he paid for them back in the day.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:43 PM (cCxiu)
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So, that tool I picked up...
There was a set of them on the wall, just two punches. One regular for the roll pin (except it's coated with rubber and flat on one side to fit a little better), and one that is recessed to hold a pin you haven't yet gotten into the hole!
It's the Wheeler Bolt Catch Install Tool Kit. I paid $12.99 for it at the local pawn/gun shop. (The only gun place around here with an adequate parts selection. I've bought several magazines there for my 1911s.)
I was in there to look for something else (which I also bought - a night sight for my carry 1911, which I now have to learn how to install) and was browsing and this caught my eye. So, bonus to the range trip and the Liberal Tears!
(BTW, my carry weapon still smelled slightly like bacon after shooting about 50 rounds through it.)
6/6
There was a set of them on the wall, just two punches. One regular for the roll pin (except it's coated with rubber and flat on one side to fit a little better), and one that is recessed to hold a pin you haven't yet gotten into the hole!
It's the Wheeler Bolt Catch Install Tool Kit. I paid $12.99 for it at the local pawn/gun shop. (The only gun place around here with an adequate parts selection. I've bought several magazines there for my 1911s.)
I was in there to look for something else (which I also bought - a night sight for my carry 1911, which I now have to learn how to install) and was browsing and this caught my eye. So, bonus to the range trip and the Liberal Tears!
(BTW, my carry weapon still smelled slightly like bacon after shooting about 50 rounds through it.)
6/6
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:43 PM (sSx7k)
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it has now been Revealed that he had been in the Intensive Care Unit at Walter Reed for the last 4 Days and that Deputy Secretary of Defense, Kathleen Hicks assumed his Duties and Powers even though she continued her Vacation in Puerto Rico
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 07:41 PM (lwOKI)
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Holy ..... do none of these idiots take their jobs seriously? If I'm the second in command, vacation is cut short and I head back. This administration continues to catch me off guard with their complete and utter disregard for the country.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 07:41 PM (lwOKI)
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Holy ..... do none of these idiots take their jobs seriously? If I'm the second in command, vacation is cut short and I head back. This administration continues to catch me off guard with their complete and utter disregard for the country.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:44 PM (tT6L1)
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it has now been Revealed that he had been in the Intensive Care Unit at Walter Reed for the last 4 Days and that Deputy Secretary of Defense, Kathleen Hicks assumed his Duties and Powers even though she continued her Vacation in Puerto Rico
Fortunately there is nothing going on in the world right now that might require high level decisions on short notice involving the military.
Fortunately there is nothing going on in the world right now that might require high level decisions on short notice involving the military.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 07, 2024 07:45 PM (sNc8Y)
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Hello, Grateful!
It's calming to really slow down and focus. I have to admit to a few flinches still, even when I was really concentrating!
Next trip out, I will have my carry 1911 and will be a little more relaxed. I'll also plink some .22, because, well, that's just fun.
It's calming to really slow down and focus. I have to admit to a few flinches still, even when I was really concentrating!
Next trip out, I will have my carry 1911 and will be a little more relaxed. I'll also plink some .22, because, well, that's just fun.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 07:45 PM (bTaUx)
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Vic, I wondered about that decent-looking female next to Wayne LeP, as well. She’s wearing a shirt that probably say that horny moms are demanding some action, or something.
I can take one for the team.
I can take one for the team.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 07:46 PM (E7aft)
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Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:33 PM (cCxiu)
They're definitely not getting any cheaper. Even the beat up, refinished, refurbished M1 carbines are getting what would have been crazy prices less than 10 years ago.
They're definitely not getting any cheaper. Even the beat up, refinished, refurbished M1 carbines are getting what would have been crazy prices less than 10 years ago.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 07:46 PM (yRXSd)
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I bought an M1 Carbine in 1977 right after I got out of Navy. $300 and I thought that was high. The last time I saw an ad for one it was over $1000.
Posted by: vic at January 07, 2024 07:47 PM (A5THL)
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lol. All gun threads are eventually M1 carbine threads.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 07:48 PM (xrlnV)
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it has now been Revealed that he had been in the Intensive Care Unit at Walter Reed for the last 4 Days and that Deputy Secretary of Defense, Kathleen Hicks assumed his Duties and Powers even though she continued her Vacation in Puerto Rico
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 07:41 PM (lwOKI)
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Holy ..... do none of these idiots take their jobs seriously? If I'm the second in command, vacation is cut short and I head back. This administration continues to catch me off guard with their complete and utter disregard for the country.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:44 PM (tT6L1)
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Eh...She can still do meetings via Zoom and then hit the beach! /sarc
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 07:41 PM (lwOKI)
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Holy ..... do none of these idiots take their jobs seriously? If I'm the second in command, vacation is cut short and I head back. This administration continues to catch me off guard with their complete and utter disregard for the country.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:44 PM (tT6L1)
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Eh...She can still do meetings via Zoom and then hit the beach! /sarc
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 07, 2024 07:48 PM (BpYfr)
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Thomas, check estate sales. When old gunners like me die, the wives sell off them oily, smelly guns. The nice thing is they rarely know the current value and only remember what he paid for them back in the day.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:43 PM
That's how I picked up my Silver Hawk.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 07:43 PM
That's how I picked up my Silver Hawk.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:49 PM (Wnv9h)
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Eh...She can still do meetings via Zoom and then hit the beach! /sarc
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 07, 2024 07:48 PM (BpYfr)
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Not sure it's sarcasm because I'll bet that's exactly what she had planned.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 07, 2024 07:48 PM (BpYfr)
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Not sure it's sarcasm because I'll bet that's exactly what she had planned.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:52 PM (tT6L1)
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Imaging trying to get that chess set through TSA.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:25 PM (tT6L1)
Maybe in your checked luggage. But no part of anything that could comprise a cartridge, bullet, or gun can be in your carry-on. Not an obvious snap cap. Not some necklace made from an empty casing. Not even a bullet all by itself with no cartridge, no powder, no primer.
They are (or were when that was written) very concerned, evidently, over a team of bad guys bringing on board bits and pieces of a gun and ammunition and putting it together on the plane.
Question for all you reloaders out there: How hard would it be for the average bad guy to do reloading on a plane in flight? (I'm pretty sure I know your answers.)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:25 PM (tT6L1)
Maybe in your checked luggage. But no part of anything that could comprise a cartridge, bullet, or gun can be in your carry-on. Not an obvious snap cap. Not some necklace made from an empty casing. Not even a bullet all by itself with no cartridge, no powder, no primer.
They are (or were when that was written) very concerned, evidently, over a team of bad guys bringing on board bits and pieces of a gun and ammunition and putting it together on the plane.
Question for all you reloaders out there: How hard would it be for the average bad guy to do reloading on a plane in flight? (I'm pretty sure I know your answers.)
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:52 PM (sSx7k)
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Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (f0/sc)
And by the time John McClane wielded his Beretta 92FS against Hans Gruber's gang in "Die Hard" two years later, the Beretta 92's fame in Hollywood was assured.
"Happy Trails, Hans."
And by the time John McClane wielded his Beretta 92FS against Hans Gruber's gang in "Die Hard" two years later, the Beretta 92's fame in Hollywood was assured.
"Happy Trails, Hans."
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 07:53 PM (yRXSd)
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Only a tiny fraction of Illinois gun owners registered their AR-15s and similar firearms before the state’s ban officially took effect.
Fewer than 30,000 of the state’s Firearms Owner Identification (FOID) card holders registered firearms recently classified as “assault weapons” by the end of the December 31 registration deadline, according to updated data the Illinois State Police (ISP) released on Tuesday.
Those will be easy to find and kill!
Fewer than 30,000 of the state’s Firearms Owner Identification (FOID) card holders registered firearms recently classified as “assault weapons” by the end of the December 31 registration deadline, according to updated data the Illinois State Police (ISP) released on Tuesday.
Those will be easy to find and kill!
Posted by: The State at January 07, 2024 07:53 PM (lwOKI)
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And by the time John McClane wielded his Beretta 92FS against Hans Gruber's gang in "Die Hard" two years later, the Beretta 92's fame in Hollywood was assured.
"Happy Trails, Hans."
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 07:53 PM (yRXSd
Also, Mel Gibson Lethal Weapon
"Happy Trails, Hans."
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 07:53 PM (yRXSd
Also, Mel Gibson Lethal Weapon
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 07:53 PM (xrlnV)
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I have a small pistol that has a grip feature, kind of like a rasp, on the outside, front of the trigger guard.
Squaring and checkering the front of the trigger guard was a popular custom modification back in the 70s or 80s. Started I believe by legendary 1911 'smith Armand Swenson. Glocks still have a square guard with molded-in texture.
Squaring and checkering the front of the trigger guard was a popular custom modification back in the 70s or 80s. Started I believe by legendary 1911 'smith Armand Swenson. Glocks still have a square guard with molded-in texture.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 07, 2024 07:53 PM (sNc8Y)
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Evening All.
Thanks to Weasel for the thread as always.
Short range report. Was 22 WMR day at the range yesterday. My buddy brought his KelTec PMR30. I brought my AMT AutoMagII and Charter Arms Pathfinder.
A good time was had by all.
Then he brought out the 300BLK pistol with the new can that he just received.
Much more fun was had by all. At personal defense distance, the it was accurate enough to be confident in headshots....30 rounds in a 3" hole. 1/2
Thanks to Weasel for the thread as always.
Short range report. Was 22 WMR day at the range yesterday. My buddy brought his KelTec PMR30. I brought my AMT AutoMagII and Charter Arms Pathfinder.
A good time was had by all.
Then he brought out the 300BLK pistol with the new can that he just received.
Much more fun was had by all. At personal defense distance, the it was accurate enough to be confident in headshots....30 rounds in a 3" hole. 1/2
Posted by: Chappyman66 at January 07, 2024 07:54 PM (L3byd)
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What is needed is a young gun who is in touch with the gun community today to lead the NRA. Brandon Herrera comes to mind as the template.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2024 07:28 PM (R/m4+)
Not just in touch with the gun community, but someone who loves guns. Someone who actually enjoys shooting them and doing various things with them - hunt, carry, compete, and plink.
I also like your dream. It's mine, too, mostly.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2024 07:28 PM (R/m4+)
Not just in touch with the gun community, but someone who loves guns. Someone who actually enjoys shooting them and doing various things with them - hunt, carry, compete, and plink.
I also like your dream. It's mine, too, mostly.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:55 PM (sSx7k)
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Hunter Biden‘s Lawyer Producing Documentary About First Son
Bring lawyers guns and money
the shit has hit the fan
Bring lawyers guns and money
the shit has hit the fan
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 07:56 PM (lwOKI)
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Question for all you reloaders out there: How hard would it be for the average bad guy to do reloading on a plane in flight? (I'm pretty sure I know your answers.)
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:52 PM (sSx7k)
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I'm wiling to bet a bad guy could, with a bit of help, get some version of a cap and ball revolver onto a flight. Not need for metallic cartridges, then.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:52 PM (sSx7k)
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I'm wiling to bet a bad guy could, with a bit of help, get some version of a cap and ball revolver onto a flight. Not need for metallic cartridges, then.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:57 PM (tT6L1)
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2/2
The AMT had a couple of FTEs, but was exceedingly dirty. I got it home, field stripped it, and got the brass brushes out to get that carbon off of there. Once cleaned, it runs flawlessly again.
Rimfire fun for all!
The AMT had a couple of FTEs, but was exceedingly dirty. I got it home, field stripped it, and got the brass brushes out to get that carbon off of there. Once cleaned, it runs flawlessly again.
Rimfire fun for all!
Posted by: Chappyman66 at January 07, 2024 07:57 PM (L3byd)
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The widow Eromero’s sale’s gonna be a blast.
Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2024 07:57 PM (NxC5+)
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Question for all you reloaders out there: How hard would it be for the average bad guy to do reloading on a plane in flight?
A hand-held press about the size of a large pair of pliers could work but it certainly wouldn't be very covert.
A hand-held press about the size of a large pair of pliers could work but it certainly wouldn't be very covert.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 07, 2024 07:57 PM (sNc8Y)
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And expensive because I think I will need to buy 2 now.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 07:32 PM (t/2Uw)
Yes, Grasshopper, you begin to understand now....
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 07:32 PM (t/2Uw)
Yes, Grasshopper, you begin to understand now....
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 07:58 PM (sSx7k)
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What is needed is a young gun who is in touch with the gun community today to lead the NRA. Brandon Herrera comes to mind as the template.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2024 07:28 PM
That would be epic, but the man has a congressional race to win first.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2024 07:28 PM
That would be epic, but the man has a congressional race to win first.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:58 PM (Wnv9h)
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That would be epic, but the man has a congressional race to win first.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:58 PM (Wnv9h)
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Brandon Herrera, then?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 07:58 PM (Wnv9h)
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Brandon Herrera, then?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:59 PM (tT6L1)
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Late supper, but it’s free!
Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2024 07:36 PM (NxC5+)
That's only because it's not lunch.
Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2024 07:36 PM (NxC5+)
That's only because it's not lunch.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:00 PM (sSx7k)
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Saw that Ayoob video when it came out last year. Since I'm close to his age I wanted to hear what he said. The part dealing with aging eyes was helpful. After the recent cataract surgery, I'm happy to say my eyes are no longer an excuse for 'interesting' targets. The part about less hand strength is true. I compensated by switching to semi-autos that are easier to rack which is why I carry a Smith Equalizer now. Much easier to use than the earlier M and P Shield series. I do have to concentrate more on trigger discipline these days, especially for DA revolvers. That's not a bad thing. It helps that I no longer go for heavy recoil loads. Mild and accurate is more fun.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:00 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 08:01 PM (lwOKI)
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A word of thanks to all the DMV MGC MiniMoMe crew. Appreciate sharing knowledge, equipment, encouragement, and giggles. Also thanks to those at Corsicana who helped as well.
We're still newbies, but trying to catch up... Been easier with moron help than it would have been otherwise.
We're still newbies, but trying to catch up... Been easier with moron help than it would have been otherwise.
Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 08:01 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Brandon Herrera, then?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:59 PM
Can you imagine him in Congress? Pretty much the anti-AOC. I'd pay money to watch him roast her on the House floor.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 07:59 PM
Can you imagine him in Congress? Pretty much the anti-AOC. I'd pay money to watch him roast her on the House floor.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 08:01 PM (Wnv9h)
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Wow, the P226 was great.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 07:32 PM
You can't go wrong with a P226. There was a time when you could find police trade-ins for ~$300.
If you can find one, the Mk. 25 variant has some additional sweetness over a regular P226.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 07:32 PM
You can't go wrong with a P226. There was a time when you could find police trade-ins for ~$300.
If you can find one, the Mk. 25 variant has some additional sweetness over a regular P226.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:01 PM (a3Q+t)
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I'm still writing 2019 on my checks.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:41 PM (0PGSy)
Shouldn't you still be writing 1789?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 07:41 PM (0PGSy)
Shouldn't you still be writing 1789?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:01 PM (sSx7k)
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I am watching a movie right now about a thing I know a lot about. Like its my current job. And its...bad. And of course wildly inaccurate - except it uses some terminology that is highly specific that is...correct.
And it is a 2022 movie with Bruce Willis in it. I feel bad for him. Slurring his dialog. Must have been one of his last.
Lots of guns in the movie though.
And it is a 2022 movie with Bruce Willis in it. I feel bad for him. Slurring his dialog. Must have been one of his last.
Lots of guns in the movie though.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:02 PM (IFNME)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...liberal esthete at January 07, 2024 08:02 PM (gSZYf)
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The Food and Drug Administration said Friday it will allow Florida to buy prescription drugs directly from wholesalers in Canada, a move that is intended to lower the cost of prescription drugs for residents in the state.
OK Stupid
Where did these drugs come from? China India? Fuckistan?
OK Stupid
Where did these drugs come from? China India? Fuckistan?
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (lwOKI)
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Does everyone still have their first handgun?
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
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Brandon Herrera, then?
Colion Noir? I was a little disappointed when he backed out of the NRA convention a couple of years ago right after the Uvalde school shooting but I can almost understand and forgive that since he was supposed to be there repping Daniel Defense.
Colion Noir? I was a little disappointed when he backed out of the NRA convention a couple of years ago right after the Uvalde school shooting but I can almost understand and forgive that since he was supposed to be there repping Daniel Defense.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (sNc8Y)
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89 Whig, I followed up on your tip about used FN High Powers at AIM Surplus. I picked up a lightweight alloy framed High Power circa 1979 on Friday (w/ two spare magazines from AIM Surplus too) and took it to the range w/ the DMVMGC this afternoon. I think the pistol shot just fine. Sights are a bit small, but that's normal for the period. The rest of DMVMGC gave it mixed reviews. Some liked the ergonomics, but others didn't like the increased recoil from the lighter frame. Hrothgar shot well w/ it. I think he's going to order one for himself before they run out at AIM Surplus.
Posted by: Ed L
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Glad you could take advantage of it. Along with the late lamented Detective slide for the HP made by FM of Argentina (these slides have a 4 inch barrel but fit on the frame of an HP) FM also made some complete Detective HP's, the Alloy frames are pretty rare variants over here as I think Browning only made them for a couple of years.
Posted by: Ed L
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Glad you could take advantage of it. Along with the late lamented Detective slide for the HP made by FM of Argentina (these slides have a 4 inch barrel but fit on the frame of an HP) FM also made some complete Detective HP's, the Alloy frames are pretty rare variants over here as I think Browning only made them for a couple of years.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:06 PM (81RcT)
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I blame Weasel.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...liberal esthete at January 07, 2024 08:02 PM (gSZYf)
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Well it's probably my fault!
I blame Weasel.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...liberal esthete at January 07, 2024 08:02 PM (gSZYf)
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Well it's probably my fault!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 08:06 PM (JwHpX)
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Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:01 PM (a3Q+t)
That's the variant she shot today. Picked it up used for $700 almost ten years ago.
That's the variant she shot today. Picked it up used for $700 almost ten years ago.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 08:06 PM (yRXSd)
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If you can find one, the Mk. 25 variant has some additional sweetness over a regular P226.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:01 PM (a3Q+t)
Yeah that is what Ed L. brought. A Mk 25.
P226's are pretty sweet. I have one with West German rollmark. I put a dot on it with an adapter plate. But I am thinking about returning it to iron sights, but a better set.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:01 PM (a3Q+t)
Yeah that is what Ed L. brought. A Mk 25.
P226's are pretty sweet. I have one with West German rollmark. I put a dot on it with an adapter plate. But I am thinking about returning it to iron sights, but a better set.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:06 PM (IFNME)
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Since I'm close to his age I wanted to hear what he said.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:00 PM (7EjX1)
And I really expected the next sentence to be about hearing aids.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:00 PM (7EjX1)
And I really expected the next sentence to be about hearing aids.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:06 PM (sSx7k)
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124 I am watching a movie right now about a thing I know a lot about. Like its my current job. And its...bad. And of course wildly inaccurate - except it uses some terminology that is highly specific that is...correct.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:02 PM (IFNME)
Uniformly true. Mass media gets it wrong 99 and 44/100's of a percent of the time.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:02 PM (IFNME)
Uniformly true. Mass media gets it wrong 99 and 44/100's of a percent of the time.
Posted by: javems at January 07, 2024 08:07 PM (8I4hW)
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Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (lwOKI)
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Anything shooting related to share?
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (lwOKI)
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Anything shooting related to share?
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 08:08 PM (JwHpX)
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CBD, is it right after drawing from a holster? That happened when I switched my carry G32 holster to a quick-draw IDPA rig. New holster depressed the mag release when drawing. First shot dislodged the mag.
Oops.
Oops.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 08:08 PM (E7aft)
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127 Does everyone still have their first handgun?
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
I do! And I shot it today. Ruger P95 DC.
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
I do! And I shot it today. Ruger P95 DC.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:08 PM (IFNME)
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Help! I have a magazine that drops out of a pistol after the first round.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...liberal esthete at January 07, 2024 08:02 PM (gSZYf)
Put some maple syrup on it. It won't drop out as easily.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...liberal esthete at January 07, 2024 08:02 PM (gSZYf)
Put some maple syrup on it. It won't drop out as easily.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:08 PM (sSx7k)
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I just put some sticky tape on the magazine. Helps it stay put.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM (xrlnV)
140
Tell me, fellow gunslingers: how much ammo is enough? I'm sure that the common answer is "there is no such thing". However, with 5K+ .22 rounds, 10K+ .223 rounds, 2K+ .308 rounds, and at least 7 boxes of .300 WM, .270 Winchester, 7mm Rem Mag, .22Hornet, .30-30 Win, cases of shotgun shells in .410, 20 gauge, 12 gauge, and etcetera, I think I'm covered.
Posted by: jackcoke at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM (bwsqx)
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113 Question for all you reloaders out there: How hard would it be for the average bad guy to do reloading on a plane in flight?
A hand-held press about the size of a large pair of pliers could work but it certainly wouldn't be very covert.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Would quite frankly be a PITA---Lyman tong hand presses are probably the smallest but you have to deprime (can be a bitch with hand tongs on high pressure cases), size, load powder and expand case mouth, load bullet, crimp case mount on bullet. The Lee Loader is the simplest but you have to whack it with a hammer to decap and size which is not exactly concealable.
A hand-held press about the size of a large pair of pliers could work but it certainly wouldn't be very covert.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Would quite frankly be a PITA---Lyman tong hand presses are probably the smallest but you have to deprime (can be a bitch with hand tongs on high pressure cases), size, load powder and expand case mouth, load bullet, crimp case mount on bullet. The Lee Loader is the simplest but you have to whack it with a hammer to decap and size which is not exactly concealable.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM (81RcT)
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Does everyone still have their first handgun?
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
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Yep. And every other gun that has ever come into my possession!
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
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Yep. And every other gun that has ever come into my possession!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM (JwHpX)
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140 Tell me, fellow gunslingers: how much ammo is enough? I'm sure that the common answer is "there is no such thing". However, with 5K+ .22 rounds, 10K+ .223 rounds, 2K+ .308 rounds, and at least 7 boxes of .300 WM, .270 Winchester, 7mm Rem Mag, .22Hornet, .30-30 Win, cases of shotgun shells in .410, 20 gauge, 12 gauge, and etcetera, I think I'm covered.
Posted by: jackcoke
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Probably need some handgun ammo as carrying long arms during unrest can simply make you a target. Handguns are more concealable.
Posted by: jackcoke
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Probably need some handgun ammo as carrying long arms during unrest can simply make you a target. Handguns are more concealable.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:11 PM (81RcT)
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140 Tell me, fellow gunslingers: how much ammo is enough? I'm sure that the common answer is "there is no such thing". However, with 5K+ .22 rounds, 10K+ .223 rounds, 2K+ .308 rounds, and at least 7 boxes of .300 WM, .270 Winchester, 7mm Rem Mag, .22Hornet, .30-30 Win, cases of shotgun shells in .410, 20 gauge, 12 gauge, and etcetera, I think I'm covered.
Posted by: jackcoke at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM (bwsqx)
It depends. Weekend of shooting? Probably covered. Invasion of a small country? Probably need more.
Posted by: jackcoke at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM (bwsqx)
It depends. Weekend of shooting? Probably covered. Invasion of a small country? Probably need more.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:12 PM (xrlnV)
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That Ruger P95 DC is a dream. Why did they stop making them?
Posted by: Grateful at January 07, 2024 08:12 PM (IQ6Gq)
146
Does everyone still have their first handgun?
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Ruger P95 - testbed for 9mm reloading workups.
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Ruger P95 - testbed for 9mm reloading workups.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 08:12 PM (cOq4q)
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133 ... "Since I'm close to his age I wanted to hear what he said.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:00 PM (7EjX1)
And I really expected the next sentence to be about hearing aids."
LOL. I have to turn off my hearing aids when I put on the ear protection muffs. Besides, I usually use captions on YT videos.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:00 PM (7EjX1)
And I really expected the next sentence to be about hearing aids."
LOL. I have to turn off my hearing aids when I put on the ear protection muffs. Besides, I usually use captions on YT videos.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:12 PM (7EjX1)
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Is there such a thing as a "classic" or "basic" P226? Looking at the Sig website and see several variants (including the MK25) but nothing that obviously looks like a classic/basic version.
Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 08:13 PM (IQ6Gq)
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lol. Did everyone have a P95?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:13 PM (xrlnV)
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Ooh, the movie just made a really bad gun error. To go with all the other wrongness.
Guard armory at a federal building has an AK47 in it.
Um. no.
Guard armory at a federal building has an AK47 in it.
Um. no.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:13 PM (IFNME)
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Tell me, fellow gunslingers: how much ammo is enough?
Posted by: jackcoke at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM (bwsqx)
How long will it last at your rate of shooting practice (the practice you should be doing) if the industry goes pear-shaped stocking up for a big war or something? Is that long enough?
If you're of a more negative mindset, how long will it last you when the burning times come? Is it enough to take care of things, so the last thing you hear is not a 'click' as you pull the trigger on an empty chamber?
Posted by: jackcoke at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM (bwsqx)
How long will it last at your rate of shooting practice (the practice you should be doing) if the industry goes pear-shaped stocking up for a big war or something? Is that long enough?
If you're of a more negative mindset, how long will it last you when the burning times come? Is it enough to take care of things, so the last thing you hear is not a 'click' as you pull the trigger on an empty chamber?
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:13 PM (sSx7k)
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Well, time to wander.
Thanks again, Weasel!
and, thank you CBD, for the thread before the gun thread!
Thanks again, Weasel!
and, thank you CBD, for the thread before the gun thread!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at January 07, 2024 08:15 PM (tT6L1)
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Adios blake!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 08:15 PM (JwHpX)
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Does everyone still have their first handgun?
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Yes, a 5 shot revolver. Even if I wanted to sell it, I doubt anyone would want it. Kept it in good shape though.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Yes, a 5 shot revolver. Even if I wanted to sell it, I doubt anyone would want it. Kept it in good shape though.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:15 PM (0PGSy)
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And every other gun that has ever come into my possession!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM
So, you keep the sequentially odd-numbered guns that have come into your possession? What about the even-numbered ones?
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 08:10 PM
So, you keep the sequentially odd-numbered guns that have come into your possession? What about the even-numbered ones?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:16 PM (a3Q+t)
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Guard armory at a federal building has an AK47 in it.
Um. no.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:13 PM (IFNME)
Why not? We had lots of OPFOR weapons at Fort Drum for their training classes. (I got to be an extra in some of their training one summer for a bit, shooting newbie AF guys from the other side of the base.)
Um. no.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:13 PM (IFNME)
Why not? We had lots of OPFOR weapons at Fort Drum for their training classes. (I got to be an extra in some of their training one summer for a bit, shooting newbie AF guys from the other side of the base.)
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:16 PM (sSx7k)
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Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:06 PM (81RcT)
Anthony Vanderlinden's most recent edition of his magnum opus of FN pistols from 1900 to today (in print and available now, BTW) says that the Belgian Gendarmerie requested FN to make these lightweight alloy variants specifically for them in the late 1970s through the 1980s. Some other Belgian PDs also received this variant, but only a few were commercially sold. Apparently, FN never promoted or advertised this lightweight variant. The pistol itself carries no markings identifying it as a lightweight alloy model. The only way to tell the difference between it and a steel version is to pick it up.
Anthony Vanderlinden's most recent edition of his magnum opus of FN pistols from 1900 to today (in print and available now, BTW) says that the Belgian Gendarmerie requested FN to make these lightweight alloy variants specifically for them in the late 1970s through the 1980s. Some other Belgian PDs also received this variant, but only a few were commercially sold. Apparently, FN never promoted or advertised this lightweight variant. The pistol itself carries no markings identifying it as a lightweight alloy model. The only way to tell the difference between it and a steel version is to pick it up.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 08:16 PM (yRXSd)
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Now that LaPierre is out of the NRA, they need to institute procedures to ensure that fresh blood (and faces) rotate through the top of the organization. And of course, the membership needs to drive this.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 07, 2024 08:17 PM (9isyS)
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Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:16 PM (a3Q+t)
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My retention policies are complex.
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My retention policies are complex.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 08:17 PM (JwHpX)
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Tell me, fellow gunslingers: how much ammo is enough?
Posted by: jackcoke
How big is your house?
Posted by: jackcoke
How big is your house?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:17 PM (0PGSy)
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148 Is there such a thing as a "classic" or "basic" P226? Looking at the Sig website and see several variants (including the MK25) but nothing that obviously looks like a classic/basic version.
Posted by: TRex
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If you don't mind 40 S&W in your 226 or the 229, you can pick up ex lawman firearms from CDNN or Aim Surplus among others for 400-500.
Been awhile but I think that you can convert a Sig 40 to a 9mm with a change in barrel, recoil spring, and magazine. Mind you some of those LEO Sigs are DAK (Double Action Kellerman) instead of the traditional DA/SA decockers.
Posted by: TRex
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If you don't mind 40 S&W in your 226 or the 229, you can pick up ex lawman firearms from CDNN or Aim Surplus among others for 400-500.
Been awhile but I think that you can convert a Sig 40 to a 9mm with a change in barrel, recoil spring, and magazine. Mind you some of those LEO Sigs are DAK (Double Action Kellerman) instead of the traditional DA/SA decockers.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:17 PM (81RcT)
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I just found out that OmahaOutdoors is actually in Texas. i wonder why I thought differently?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 08:17 PM (t/2Uw)
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shooting newbie AF guys from the other side of the base.)
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:16 PM (sSx7k)
Shooting at newbies who were from the other side of the base, not shooting at them on the other side of the base. I'm not Weasel, you know.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:16 PM (sSx7k)
Shooting at newbies who were from the other side of the base, not shooting at them on the other side of the base. I'm not Weasel, you know.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:18 PM (sSx7k)
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“The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (IEA, i.e., the Afghan Taliban) is caught in an international controversy after it has come to light that an eight-member official Taliban delegation secretly visited North Korea to discuss cooperation on nuclear weapons technology.”
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 08:18 PM (lwOKI)
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127 Does everyone still have their first handgun?
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
Dan Wesson .38/.357 revolver, with interchangeable barrel. Bought 1971. Still have it.
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
Dan Wesson .38/.357 revolver, with interchangeable barrel. Bought 1971. Still have it.
Posted by: javems at January 07, 2024 08:18 PM (8I4hW)
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Interestingly, the EMO wasn’t discovered until the advent of solid state electronics. If you have a UNIVAC or some other ancient vacuum tube computer and a cellphone by each other, if you set off a nuke (at a safe distance), the cellphone’s circuitry will be fired by but the UNIVAC will keep chugging right along.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 07, 2024 08:19 PM (9isyS)
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Oh, I had a question for the Horde, too - though mostly for folks like Ed L and whig:
What would be a good book about the 1911? I'd like one that is technical (schematics and such) but packed with history. A recommendation for 2 would be alright, too.
What would be a good book about the 1911? I'd like one that is technical (schematics and such) but packed with history. A recommendation for 2 would be alright, too.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:19 PM (sSx7k)
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I did sell a Winchester 1400. It was never going to stand up to thousands of shells.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:19 PM (0PGSy)
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Had to laugh at that last photo of the old lady. We have a photo of my great great grandmother that looks similar but without the weaponry. Supposedly a sweet lady but never smiled in photographs. I inherited her Lodge cast iron skillet and use it almost every day. 130 years of seasoning helps.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:19 PM (7EjX1)
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lol. Did everyone have a P95?
Nope. Not a fan of the Ruger centerfire autos. My dad was a big Ruger fan and he got a P89 when they first came out. My sister has it now assuming that she hasn't pawned it.
Nope. Not a fan of the Ruger centerfire autos. My dad was a big Ruger fan and he got a P89 when they first came out. My sister has it now assuming that she hasn't pawned it.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 07, 2024 08:19 PM (sNc8Y)
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Well, another year younger today. Working my way slowly back towards 29.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 08:20 PM (V8he0)
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Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
Still have it. Colt M1991A1 Government Model. Featured on the blog a couple of times already.
Still have it. Colt M1991A1 Government Model. Featured on the blog a couple of times already.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 08:20 PM (yRXSd)
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The pistol itself carries no markings identifying it as a lightweight alloy model. The only way to tell the difference between it and a steel version is to pick it up.
Posted by: Ed L
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I do know they are fairly rare on the various auction websites and depending on condition, AIM has a smoking deal on them.
One thing though about alloy frames, never run them out of lube as the steel slide will gall the aluminum frame rails and contact areas.
Stephen A. Camp (deceased now) but his website is still online has a lot about the different High Powers and shooting them. www dot hipowersandhandguns dot com
Posted by: Ed L
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I do know they are fairly rare on the various auction websites and depending on condition, AIM has a smoking deal on them.
One thing though about alloy frames, never run them out of lube as the steel slide will gall the aluminum frame rails and contact areas.
Stephen A. Camp (deceased now) but his website is still online has a lot about the different High Powers and shooting them. www dot hipowersandhandguns dot com
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:21 PM (81RcT)
174
127: my first was the civilian version of the M9 that I purchased for practice. I decided I didn’t need to qualify on the 9; I needed to be PROFICIENT at it. This is also the reason I bought the M18 last year.
I rather like the M9 (an unpopular opinion I realize, amongst my comrades in arms), so I won’t be giving mine up anytime soon.
I rather like the M9 (an unpopular opinion I realize, amongst my comrades in arms), so I won’t be giving mine up anytime soon.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 07, 2024 08:21 PM (9isyS)
175
How much ammo …?
Lots of people don’t consider philosophy of use. Is it just for you? Does it include family members? Does it include a circle of close trusted friends?
Is it for practice? Is it for real? Are you going to share? Do you have spare platforms to share?
Answers to those questions are personal and likely not for public consumption.
Moot question for me. Davy Jones claimed everything I had. Except for my reloading gear.
Lots of people don’t consider philosophy of use. Is it just for you? Does it include family members? Does it include a circle of close trusted friends?
Is it for practice? Is it for real? Are you going to share? Do you have spare platforms to share?
Answers to those questions are personal and likely not for public consumption.
Moot question for me. Davy Jones claimed everything I had. Except for my reloading gear.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 08:22 PM (E7aft)
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145 That Ruger P95 DC is a dream. Why did they stop making them?
Posted by: Grateful at January 07, 2024 08:12 PM (IQ6Gq)
It's a good question. It is very similar to the Sig P226 in form and function, though it is a polymer frame. I would guess that Ruger just couldn't keep that many models in the lineup and more "modern" guns won the business case. Sig might have dropped the P226 were it not for the government contracts and now just reputation.
Posted by: Grateful at January 07, 2024 08:12 PM (IQ6Gq)
It's a good question. It is very similar to the Sig P226 in form and function, though it is a polymer frame. I would guess that Ruger just couldn't keep that many models in the lineup and more "modern" guns won the business case. Sig might have dropped the P226 were it not for the government contracts and now just reputation.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:22 PM (IFNME)
177
Have every one I ever bought
Colt 357 first
Colt 357 first
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2024 08:23 PM (fwDg9)
178
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:00 PM (7EjX
Massad's videos can get one into a lot of trouble. I watched one this week in which he made a case for the average civilian to purchase body armor. He made some very convincing arguments. Then I open up my email, and Armored Republic is having a BOGO sale on body armor. The rest, as they say, is history. Has anybody else invested in SHTF armor, or am I the only dummy in the crowd?
Massad's videos can get one into a lot of trouble. I watched one this week in which he made a case for the average civilian to purchase body armor. He made some very convincing arguments. Then I open up my email, and Armored Republic is having a BOGO sale on body armor. The rest, as they say, is history. Has anybody else invested in SHTF armor, or am I the only dummy in the crowd?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 07, 2024 08:24 PM (PWe8a)
179
156 Guard armory at a federal building has an AK47 in it.
Um. no.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:13 PM (IFNME)
Why not? We had lots of OPFOR weapons at Fort Drum for their training classes. (I got to be an extra in some of their training one summer for a bit, shooting newbie AF guys from the other side of the base.)
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:16 PM (sSx7k)
The AK-47 assault rifle is the preferred weapon of our enemy. It makes a distinctive sound when fired. Our troops should remember it. Therefore, why not use them in training?
Um. no.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:13 PM (IFNME)
Why not? We had lots of OPFOR weapons at Fort Drum for their training classes. (I got to be an extra in some of their training one summer for a bit, shooting newbie AF guys from the other side of the base.)
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:16 PM (sSx7k)
The AK-47 assault rifle is the preferred weapon of our enemy. It makes a distinctive sound when fired. Our troops should remember it. Therefore, why not use them in training?
Posted by: GySgt Highway at January 07, 2024 08:24 PM (9isyS)
180
Nope. Not a fan of the Ruger centerfire autos. My dad was a big Ruger fan and he got a P89 when they first came out. My sister has it now assuming that she hasn't pawned it.
Posted by: Oddbob
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The P95 is more refined and does not have some of the teething problems that the P85 I and II or the P89 had. Actually has a nice DA/SA trigger if you have the DC only model and a nice double action trigger if you come across the relatively rare Ruger DAO variants. The slide safety (or decocker) is a bit of a pain on the early models and can chew your hand up with repeated strings of fire. They work best with medium to large size hands.
Posted by: Oddbob
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The P95 is more refined and does not have some of the teething problems that the P85 I and II or the P89 had. Actually has a nice DA/SA trigger if you have the DC only model and a nice double action trigger if you come across the relatively rare Ruger DAO variants. The slide safety (or decocker) is a bit of a pain on the early models and can chew your hand up with repeated strings of fire. They work best with medium to large size hands.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:24 PM (81RcT)
181
Does everyone still have their first handgun?
No. Sadly, it was used in the death of another so, lots of baggage surrounding it.
It is in good hands though so there's that.
No. Sadly, it was used in the death of another so, lots of baggage surrounding it.
It is in good hands though so there's that.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 07, 2024 08:25 PM (GmDse)
182
Range time in another three weeks…: o )
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 07, 2024 08:26 PM (9isyS)
183
Never owned a Beretta. I might have been tempted but doubt it would be better than a CZ 75b.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:26 PM (7EjX1)
184
Massad's videos can get one into a lot of trouble. I watched one this week in which he made a case for the average civilian to purchase body armor. He made some very convincing arguments. Then I open up my email, and Armored Republic is having a BOGO sale on body armor. The rest, as they say, is history. Has anybody else invested in SHTF armor, or am I the only dummy in the crowd?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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If you spend a lot of time in 'gun free zones', it might nowadays be prudent for the soft makes. The plates that takes rifle rounds is not very concealable aside from the Michelin Man and would only be useful in a boogaloo.
BTW, if you spend a lot of time at public ranges, body armor is also a bit of insurance from idiots on the range.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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If you spend a lot of time in 'gun free zones', it might nowadays be prudent for the soft makes. The plates that takes rifle rounds is not very concealable aside from the Michelin Man and would only be useful in a boogaloo.
BTW, if you spend a lot of time at public ranges, body armor is also a bit of insurance from idiots on the range.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:27 PM (81RcT)
185
It was Martin Riggs side arm in the movie and the scene in the shooting range where he proceeds to shoot a smiley face in the target at xx distance away was something that made an impression on me.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (f0/sc)
Don’t forget me.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at January 07, 2024 07:09 PM (f0/sc)
Don’t forget me.
Posted by: John McLane at January 07, 2024 08:28 PM (9isyS)
186
Body armor would be interesting…but you get that argument between armor vs maneuverability.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 07, 2024 08:30 PM (9isyS)
187
On general principle, I think you should have the civilian version of every common military small arm, starting from 1911.
If you can get the military version, call me.
If you can get the military version, call me.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 08:30 PM (E7aft)
188
Has anybody else invested in SHTF armor, or am I the only dummy in the crowd?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 07, 2024 08:24 PM (PWe8a)
Umm, yeah. Carriers and plates for the whole family.
sra blaster insisted.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 07, 2024 08:24 PM (PWe8a)
Umm, yeah. Carriers and plates for the whole family.
sra blaster insisted.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:31 PM (IFNME)
189
it seems some of the P226 models have a beavertail and some don't. Is there a reason? Do they all have tritium sights? arer night sights and tritium sights the same thing?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 08:31 PM (t/2Uw)
190
Don’t forget me.
Posted by: John McLane
I thought he had a PX4, but that might have been a sequel.
Posted by: John McLane
I thought he had a PX4, but that might have been a sequel.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:31 PM (0PGSy)
191
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
THE reference book about the M1911's history from the first automatic pistol trials in 1900 through 1945, with LOTS of details about anything could think of about M1911 minutia remains Charles W. Clawson's "Colt .45 Service Pistols, Models of 1911 and 1911A1." 30 plus years after its publication, it remains the gold standard of M1911 references that everyone else draws from. Because of the huge interest by collectors in the M1911, and its out of print status, the price of this book on the secondary market has skyrocketed. If you're serious about getting this book, be prepared to pay as much as $2,000. That should tell you how in demand this book is. Among collectors, this volume is known as "The Big Book." (1/3)
THE reference book about the M1911's history from the first automatic pistol trials in 1900 through 1945, with LOTS of details about anything could think of about M1911 minutia remains Charles W. Clawson's "Colt .45 Service Pistols, Models of 1911 and 1911A1." 30 plus years after its publication, it remains the gold standard of M1911 references that everyone else draws from. Because of the huge interest by collectors in the M1911, and its out of print status, the price of this book on the secondary market has skyrocketed. If you're serious about getting this book, be prepared to pay as much as $2,000. That should tell you how in demand this book is. Among collectors, this volume is known as "The Big Book." (1/3)
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 08:31 PM (yRXSd)
192
The AK-47 assault rifle is the preferred weapon of our enemy. It makes a distinctive sound when fired. Our troops should remember it. Therefore, why not use them in training?
Posted by: GySgt Highway at January 07, 2024 08:24 PM (9isyS)
True but...in this movie, these are the armed guards at a Federal civilian facility. Their arms locker had an AR, a Mossberg 500, and an AK.
Posted by: GySgt Highway at January 07, 2024 08:24 PM (9isyS)
True but...in this movie, these are the armed guards at a Federal civilian facility. Their arms locker had an AR, a Mossberg 500, and an AK.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:33 PM (IFNME)
193
171 ... "Well, another year younger today. Working my way slowly back towards 29."
Happy birthday, Nortorious. Mrs. JTB subtracts from her age as I get older. By the time I get to 75, she'll probably be a zygote.
Happy birthday, Nortorious. Mrs. JTB subtracts from her age as I get older. By the time I get to 75, she'll probably be a zygote.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 08:33 PM (7EjX1)
194
Does everyone still have their first handgun?
Posted by: AlaBAMA
S&W .357 Magnum
It taught me how to shoot.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
S&W .357 Magnum
It taught me how to shoot.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 08:34 PM (5Skxj)
195
be prepared to pay as much as $2,000.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 08:31 PM (yRXSd)
Hoo boy. That would be out of my price range for a book.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 08:31 PM (yRXSd)
Hoo boy. That would be out of my price range for a book.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:35 PM (sSx7k)
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189 it seems some of the P226 models have a beavertail and some don't. Is there a reason? Do they all have tritium sights? arer night sights and tritium sights the same thing?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Tritium glows in the dark due to radioactivity and thus are called night sights. Euro night sights though are often photo phosphorescent where you 'charge' the sights with a bright light before expected use (most places in Euroland tightly restrict firearms for individual citizens and so cops don't mind the delay in charging sights that way.)
Not all Sigs have night sights.
The beavertails, I think are on the premium makes of Sigs but I haven't paid much attention to the Sig P series in years.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Tritium glows in the dark due to radioactivity and thus are called night sights. Euro night sights though are often photo phosphorescent where you 'charge' the sights with a bright light before expected use (most places in Euroland tightly restrict firearms for individual citizens and so cops don't mind the delay in charging sights that way.)
Not all Sigs have night sights.
The beavertails, I think are on the premium makes of Sigs but I haven't paid much attention to the Sig P series in years.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:37 PM (81RcT)
197
Does everyone still have their first handgun?
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yes but I only got it 3 years ago :-) P365, of course
It was almost pitched into RancherBob's pond at a MoMe after an egregiously bad day on the range in October 2021. Now I think we are committed to each other.
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yes but I only got it 3 years ago :-) P365, of course
It was almost pitched into RancherBob's pond at a MoMe after an egregiously bad day on the range in October 2021. Now I think we are committed to each other.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 08:37 PM (CL9FV)
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It was almost pitched into RancherBob's pond at a MoMe after an egregiously bad day on the range in October 2021. Now I think we are committed to each other.
Most good love stories have that part.
Most good love stories have that part.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:38 PM (xrlnV)
199
>>> Actually has a nice DA/SA trigger if you have the DC only model and a nice double action trigger if you come across the relatively rare Ruger DAO variants.
I have the SS DAO model. Ordered it from gun shop.
Didn't really get why it was called "DAO" - it has trigger, mag release, and decocker too. No safety.
Is gun. Not safe.
Thinking of loading a batch of VV's 3n38 published loads and label for "Ruger P95 Only".
I have the SS DAO model. Ordered it from gun shop.
Didn't really get why it was called "DAO" - it has trigger, mag release, and decocker too. No safety.
Is gun. Not safe.
Thinking of loading a batch of VV's 3n38 published loads and label for "Ruger P95 Only".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 08:38 PM (cOq4q)
200
186 Body armor would be interesting…but you get that argument between armor vs maneuverability.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
Soft body armor stops most if not all handgun cartridges but a rifle bullet or shotgun slug will sail on through. The modern makes don't require much sacrifice other than making the wearers a bit hot when wearing them.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
Soft body armor stops most if not all handgun cartridges but a rifle bullet or shotgun slug will sail on through. The modern makes don't require much sacrifice other than making the wearers a bit hot when wearing them.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:38 PM (81RcT)
201
S&W .357 Magnum
It taught me how to shoot.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 08:34 PM (5Skxj
What size barrel?
It taught me how to shoot.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 08:34 PM (5Skxj
What size barrel?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:39 PM (xrlnV)
202
True but...in this movie, these are the armed guards at a Federal civilian facility. Their arms locker had an AR, a Mossberg 500, and an AK.
Director to prop master: "Get a rack full of military looking guns." PM: "Anything in particular?" D: "Whatever. Nobody's gonna care."
Director to prop master: "Get a rack full of military looking guns." PM: "Anything in particular?" D: "Whatever. Nobody's gonna care."
Posted by: Oddbob at January 07, 2024 08:39 PM (sNc8Y)
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Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
Clawson also published another book about commercial Colt Government Models and its variants (Ace, Commander, etc.) titled "Colt .45 Government Models (Commercial Series)." This book covers commercially produced Colt Government Models and civilian market variants from 1912 through about 1970. Like its bigger brother, this volume is also out of print and increasingly difficult to find.
To meet collector demand for a book covering the markings and characteristics of M1911/M1911A1 production, Clawson published the "Collector's Guide to Colt .45 Service Pistols, Models of 1911 and 1911A1." This book summarizes much of what's in the "Big Book," but leaves out the technical and historical details found there. This is the most common Clawson book encountered today. (2/3)
Clawson also published another book about commercial Colt Government Models and its variants (Ace, Commander, etc.) titled "Colt .45 Government Models (Commercial Series)." This book covers commercially produced Colt Government Models and civilian market variants from 1912 through about 1970. Like its bigger brother, this volume is also out of print and increasingly difficult to find.
To meet collector demand for a book covering the markings and characteristics of M1911/M1911A1 production, Clawson published the "Collector's Guide to Colt .45 Service Pistols, Models of 1911 and 1911A1." This book summarizes much of what's in the "Big Book," but leaves out the technical and historical details found there. This is the most common Clawson book encountered today. (2/3)
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 08:39 PM (yRXSd)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 08:39 PM (Wnv9h)
205
Yes, a 5 shot revolver. Even if I wanted to sell it, I doubt anyone would want it. Kept it in good shape though.
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Good enough for the NYC subway, in 1984 anyway.
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Good enough for the NYC subway, in 1984 anyway.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 07, 2024 08:39 PM (2yu8s)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 08:40 PM (cCxiu)
207
yes but I only got it 3 years ago :-) P365, of course
It was almost pitched into RancherBob's pond at a MoMe after an egregiously bad day on the range in October 2021. Now I think we are committed to each other.
Posted by: screaming in digital
That is surprising. I have let several people try the 365, and generally everyone does well with it.
It was almost pitched into RancherBob's pond at a MoMe after an egregiously bad day on the range in October 2021. Now I think we are committed to each other.
Posted by: screaming in digital
That is surprising. I have let several people try the 365, and generally everyone does well with it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:40 PM (0PGSy)
208
Hoo boy. That would be out of my price range for a book.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:35 PM
I've heard you might recoup some of the investment by writing a review for the Book Thread.
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:35 PM
I've heard you might recoup some of the investment by writing a review for the Book Thread.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:40 PM (a3Q+t)
209
171 Well, another year younger today. Working my way slowly back towards 29.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 08:20 PM (V8he0)
Congrats on another year 'round the sun!
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 08:20 PM (V8he0)
Congrats on another year 'round the sun!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 07, 2024 08:41 PM (v23vE)
210
It was almost pitched into RancherBob's pond at a MoMe after an egregiously bad day on the range in October 2021. Now I think we are committed to each other.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 08:37 PM
*sniff*
That's beautiful.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 08:37 PM
*sniff*
That's beautiful.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 08:41 PM (Wnv9h)
211
I've heard you might recoup some of the investment by writing a review for the Book Thread.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:40 PM (a3Q+t)
ROFL
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:40 PM (a3Q+t)
ROFL
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:43 PM (sSx7k)
212
(links go to gunbroker)
Base model P226
http://tinyurl.com/muddm8fn
Mk25
http://tinyurl.com/4asyjf63
But I just saw this. Oooh. Want....
http://tinyurl.com/2pmewmfe
Base model P226
http://tinyurl.com/muddm8fn
Mk25
http://tinyurl.com/4asyjf63
But I just saw this. Oooh. Want....
http://tinyurl.com/2pmewmfe
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:43 PM (IFNME)
213
What do people like about the Sig P 365?
I’m thinking of getting one for DILIT after she’s used to her G44.
I’m thinking of getting one for DILIT after she’s used to her G44.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 08:44 PM (E7aft)
214
Listening to Tucker Carlson's latest with congressman Clay Higgins. Wow.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:45 PM (0PGSy)
215
Didn't really get why it was called "DAO" - it has trigger, mag release, and decocker too. No safety.
Is gun. Not safe.
Thinking of loading a batch of VV's 3n38 published loads and label for "Ruger P95 Only".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Does yours have the DC moniker on the Ruger plastic box? The DC stands for DeCocker only where the lever only decocks back to Double Action from Single Action. The true DAO is double action and has a plug where the decocker/safety would be in the other two variants DA/SA or DC models. Here is a pix at Classic Firearms for reference on what the DAO looks like.
http://tinyurl.com/55e8ewb6
Is gun. Not safe.
Thinking of loading a batch of VV's 3n38 published loads and label for "Ruger P95 Only".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Does yours have the DC moniker on the Ruger plastic box? The DC stands for DeCocker only where the lever only decocks back to Double Action from Single Action. The true DAO is double action and has a plug where the decocker/safety would be in the other two variants DA/SA or DC models. Here is a pix at Classic Firearms for reference on what the DAO looks like.
http://tinyurl.com/55e8ewb6
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:46 PM (81RcT)
216
"Does everyone still have their first handgun?
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA"
**********
Ruger Blackhawk 357 magnum purchased in 1978.
It's the only gun I'll never sell.
SW single stack 9mm with comp sites.
Posted by: AlaBAMA"
**********
Ruger Blackhawk 357 magnum purchased in 1978.
Posted by: Cosda at January 07, 2024 08:46 PM (dOk3f)
217
True but...in this movie, these are the armed guards at a Federal civilian facility. Their arms locker had an AR, a Mossberg 500, and an AK.
Posted by: blaster
What movie?
Posted by: blaster
What movie?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 08:46 PM (cOq4q)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 07, 2024 08:46 PM (wK4hU)
219
I just saw this one. Pricey but very pretty.
http://tinyurl.com/2p9kh3w9
http://tinyurl.com/2p9kh3w9
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 08:46 PM (t/2Uw)
220
106 year old Armenian woman defending her house, 1990.
She's 26.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 07, 2024 08:46 PM
And in reserve she has a wooden spoon. She will fuck you up wit dat.
She's 26.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 07, 2024 08:46 PM
And in reserve she has a wooden spoon. She will fuck you up wit dat.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 08:48 PM (Wnv9h)
221
Blaster, apparently you and I have similar taste. lol
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 08:48 PM (t/2Uw)
222
What do people like about the Sig P 365?
I’m thinking of getting one for DILIT after she’s used to her G44.
Posted by: RI Red
Lots of rounds in a small package, and very accurate for such a small pistol. I have big hands, but it fits comfortably. It is a small gun that feels and shoots like a full size.
I’m thinking of getting one for DILIT after she’s used to her G44.
Posted by: RI Red
Lots of rounds in a small package, and very accurate for such a small pistol. I have big hands, but it fits comfortably. It is a small gun that feels and shoots like a full size.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:49 PM (0PGSy)
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Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
The other reference besides Clawson for M1911 history is the three-volume series by Edward Scott Meadows, "US Military Automatic Pistols." Volume 1 covers the period from 1894-1920. Volume 2 covers the period from 1920-1945. Volume 3 covers the period from 1946-2012. Although the M1911 remains a main character in all three volumes, Meadows also looks at other automatic pistols tested/used by the US military. Volume 1 includes numerous submissions from firms for the many trials and tests the Army conducted prior to 1911. Volume 2 includes the numerous non-standard pistols used for training and service in WWII. Volume 3 covers the numerous M1911 refurbishment efforts, the M9 and M11 trials and testing, and special operations pistols such as the H&K Mark 23 and Mark 24 (H&K Compact Tactical), and the Mark 25 (SiG Sauer P226). (3/3)
The other reference besides Clawson for M1911 history is the three-volume series by Edward Scott Meadows, "US Military Automatic Pistols." Volume 1 covers the period from 1894-1920. Volume 2 covers the period from 1920-1945. Volume 3 covers the period from 1946-2012. Although the M1911 remains a main character in all three volumes, Meadows also looks at other automatic pistols tested/used by the US military. Volume 1 includes numerous submissions from firms for the many trials and tests the Army conducted prior to 1911. Volume 2 includes the numerous non-standard pistols used for training and service in WWII. Volume 3 covers the numerous M1911 refurbishment efforts, the M9 and M11 trials and testing, and special operations pistols such as the H&K Mark 23 and Mark 24 (H&K Compact Tactical), and the Mark 25 (SiG Sauer P226). (3/3)
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 08:51 PM (yRXSd)
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P365, of course
It was almost pitched into RancherBob's pond at a MoMe after an egregiously bad day on the range in October 2021. Now I think we are committed to each other.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 08:37 PM
Odd. I don't remember a level of wailing and gnashing of teeth that would have indicated anything so egregious could happen.
It was almost pitched into RancherBob's pond at a MoMe after an egregiously bad day on the range in October 2021. Now I think we are committed to each other.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 08:37 PM
Odd. I don't remember a level of wailing and gnashing of teeth that would have indicated anything so egregious could happen.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:51 PM (a3Q+t)
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@ Andycanuck 295 "Yes, a 5 shot revolver. -
It wasn't made by charter arms was it?
I had a 5 shot 44 special short barrelled pistol from them that would nearly wrench your hand off.
It wasn't made by charter arms was it?
I had a 5 shot 44 special short barrelled pistol from them that would nearly wrench your hand off.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 07, 2024 08:51 PM (cCxiu)
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Has anybody else invested in SHTF armor, or am I the only dummy in the crowd?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 07, 2024 08:24 PM (PWe8a)
Greg Ellifritz (activeresponsetraining.net) also recommends at least soft body armor. I have yet to invest, though.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 07, 2024 08:24 PM (PWe8a)
Greg Ellifritz (activeresponsetraining.net) also recommends at least soft body armor. I have yet to invest, though.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 07, 2024 08:51 PM (v23vE)
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Never seriously considered body armor. I sure as hell am not gonna gear up with it on a daily basis. I suppose there is a chance that would be my last regret in a SHTF scenario but que sera, sera.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 08:52 PM (V8he0)
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I saw a YouTube the other day with a post 50,000 round review of the P365. That is a recommendation.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:53 PM (0PGSy)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 08:53 PM (5Skxj)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:53 PM (xrlnV)
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>>> 164 "The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (IEA, i.e., the Afghan Taliban) is caught in an international controversy after it has come to light that an eight-member official Taliban delegation secretly visited North Korea to discuss cooperation on nuclear weapons technology."
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 08:18 PM (lwOKI)
How many of the eight were women???
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 08:18 PM (lwOKI)
How many of the eight were women???
Posted by: Kathleen Hicks at January 07, 2024 08:54 PM (llON8)
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T Paine, thanks.
I have that slot covered with my Ruger Max 9, but I’d like to see how the P365 compares. Maybe I need to get one before burdening the DILIT.
I have that slot covered with my Ruger Max 9, but I’d like to see how the P365 compares. Maybe I need to get one before burdening the DILIT.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 08:55 PM (E7aft)
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Per comments above, I fired Ed L's alloy Hi-Power and it was a natural fit for me. I liked it better than my newer FN which I think really needs fiber optic sights.
Now I am digging through the sofa cushions to find spare change!
Now I am digging through the sofa cushions to find spare change!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 07, 2024 08:55 PM (hOUT3)
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213 What do people like about the Sig P 365?
I’m thinking of getting one for DILIT after she’s used to her G44.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 08:44 PM (E7aft)
P365 created the genre for high-capacity sub compact - pocket gun with 10+1, then 12+1. They are tiny and they hold lots of bullets and they are light and they are Sigs so shoot reasonably well.
BUT - the tiny part does cut against them in man-sized hands. For men I recommend moving up to the P365 XL.
I’m thinking of getting one for DILIT after she’s used to her G44.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 08:44 PM (E7aft)
P365 created the genre for high-capacity sub compact - pocket gun with 10+1, then 12+1. They are tiny and they hold lots of bullets and they are light and they are Sigs so shoot reasonably well.
BUT - the tiny part does cut against them in man-sized hands. For men I recommend moving up to the P365 XL.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:56 PM (IFNME)
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It's a 686, 7 round revolver, 4 inch barrel.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 08:53 PM (5Skxj
Nice! That's an expensive gun today.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 08:53 PM (5Skxj
Nice! That's an expensive gun today.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:56 PM (xrlnV)
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My revolver was a S&W with a 1 inch barrel. Sort of like a shotgun with one pellet.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:56 PM (0PGSy)
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 08:56 PM (sSx7k)
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236 My revolver was a S&W with a 1 inch barrel. Sort of like a shotgun with one pellet.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:56 PM (0PGSy
A derringer?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:56 PM (0PGSy
A derringer?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:57 PM (xrlnV)
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Lots of rounds in a small package, and very accurate for such a small pistol. I have big hands, but it fits comfortably. It is a small gun that feels and shoots like a full size.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:49 PM
I'll echo this. It's more accurate than it should be, the X-Ray sights are excellent. There are an increasing number of (almost uniformly high quality) after-market parts for it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 08:49 PM
I'll echo this. It's more accurate than it should be, the X-Ray sights are excellent. There are an increasing number of (almost uniformly high quality) after-market parts for it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 08:57 PM (a3Q+t)
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ha
“In recent years it has become common belief within the scholarly community as well as the general public that the criminal justice system is biased due to race and class issues. We sought to examine this with meta-analysis. Our results suggest that for most crimes, criminal adjudication in the US is not substantially biased on race or class lines,”
“In recent years it has become common belief within the scholarly community as well as the general public that the criminal justice system is biased due to race and class issues. We sought to examine this with meta-analysis. Our results suggest that for most crimes, criminal adjudication in the US is not substantially biased on race or class lines,”
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 07, 2024 08:57 PM (lwOKI)
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What do people like about the Sig P 365?
I’m thinking of getting one for DILIT after she’s used to her G44.
Posted by: RI Red
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I think my favorite thing is - I was a total noob when I bought it, and I'm hopelessly unmechanical. But even I could learn how to operate it easily (if not well) and I can field strip and reassemble it with a minimum of profanity. It's tiny and lightweight. I have been practicing carrying it with a Liberty Band and it's reasonably comfortable. In anyone's hands but mine, it's accurate. Mine has been very reliable (and I've put A LOT of rounds through trying to get better). You can get 12 or 15 round extended mags for my model, and I think the XLs can take even larger mags. (I have a couple 12 round mags and I shoot better with those - a little extra real estate for better grip.)
I don't love it like I love my 1911 or my revolvers, but I think it was a good purchase. Mine is the smallest model with no bells or whistles (or chainsaw bayonets) and cannot accommodate any optics. It ran about $500 3 years ago.
That's my review. YMMV.
I’m thinking of getting one for DILIT after she’s used to her G44.
Posted by: RI Red
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I think my favorite thing is - I was a total noob when I bought it, and I'm hopelessly unmechanical. But even I could learn how to operate it easily (if not well) and I can field strip and reassemble it with a minimum of profanity. It's tiny and lightweight. I have been practicing carrying it with a Liberty Band and it's reasonably comfortable. In anyone's hands but mine, it's accurate. Mine has been very reliable (and I've put A LOT of rounds through trying to get better). You can get 12 or 15 round extended mags for my model, and I think the XLs can take even larger mags. (I have a couple 12 round mags and I shoot better with those - a little extra real estate for better grip.)
I don't love it like I love my 1911 or my revolvers, but I think it was a good purchase. Mine is the smallest model with no bells or whistles (or chainsaw bayonets) and cannot accommodate any optics. It ran about $500 3 years ago.
That's my review. YMMV.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 08:58 PM (CL9FV)
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Also, if Weasel is ever up for any position in NRA leadership, I'll gladly start paying NRA dues again!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 07, 2024 08:58 PM (hOUT3)
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Does yours have the DC moniker on the Ruger plastic box? The DC stands for DeCocker only where the lever only decocks back to Double Action from Single Action. The true DAO is double action and has a plug where the decocker/safety would be in the other two variants DA/SA or DC models. Here is a pix at Classic Firearms for reference on what the DAO looks like.
http://tinyurl.com/55e8ewb6
Posted by: whig
Ah, corrected I have been,
Box says "KP95D",
Manual says, 'Do not use this manual for pistols equiped with manual safeties or "Double Action Only" pistols'.
http://tinyurl.com/55e8ewb6
Posted by: whig
Ah, corrected I have been,
Box says "KP95D",
Manual says, 'Do not use this manual for pistols equiped with manual safeties or "Double Action Only" pistols'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 08:59 PM (cOq4q)
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I was quoting Thomas Paine, so to speak, TWD. ...
Yes, a 5 shot revolver. Even if I wanted to sell it, I doubt anyone would want it. Kept it in good shape though.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Yes, a 5 shot revolver. Even if I wanted to sell it, I doubt anyone would want it. Kept it in good shape though.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 07, 2024 09:00 PM (2yu8s)
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A derringer?
Posted by: AlaBAMA
It was one of those detective specials that were used so often in police dramas.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
It was one of those detective specials that were used so often in police dramas.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 09:00 PM (0PGSy)
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P365 created the genre for high-capacity sub compact - pocket gun with 10+1, then 12+1. They are tiny and they hold lots of bullets and they are light and they are Sigs so shoot reasonably well.
BUT - the tiny part does cut against them in man-sized hands. For men I recommend moving up to the P365 XL.
Posted by: blaster
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Heh, Smith and Wesson did that in the 80's and 90's with the 69xx series and its predecessor 2nd generation series. Some of the finest pistols Smith and Wesson ever made and pretty affordable on the used market. Only downside is somewhat heavy and only two grip sizes for the 69xx.
The firearm market moves in circles and I am amused by the sudden reappearance of new models of metal framed handguns. I guess polymer market has reached saturation point.
BUT - the tiny part does cut against them in man-sized hands. For men I recommend moving up to the P365 XL.
Posted by: blaster
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Heh, Smith and Wesson did that in the 80's and 90's with the 69xx series and its predecessor 2nd generation series. Some of the finest pistols Smith and Wesson ever made and pretty affordable on the used market. Only downside is somewhat heavy and only two grip sizes for the 69xx.
The firearm market moves in circles and I am amused by the sudden reappearance of new models of metal framed handguns. I guess polymer market has reached saturation point.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:00 PM (81RcT)
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Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 07, 2024 08:05 PM (xrlnV)
For a more affordable alternative to the "top of the heap" books above, Joe Poyer's "The Model 1911 and Model 1911A1 Military and Commerical Pistols" is in print and available on Amazon for $35.95. This book has all of the technical details given in the Clawson books (slide markings, serial number ranges, grip composition, inspection stamps, etc.), but it leaves out almost all of the historical context that makes the Clawson books super desirable (probably for copyright reasons).
For a more affordable alternative to the "top of the heap" books above, Joe Poyer's "The Model 1911 and Model 1911A1 Military and Commerical Pistols" is in print and available on Amazon for $35.95. This book has all of the technical details given in the Clawson books (slide markings, serial number ranges, grip composition, inspection stamps, etc.), but it leaves out almost all of the historical context that makes the Clawson books super desirable (probably for copyright reasons).
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 09:00 PM (yRXSd)
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Odd. I don't remember a level of wailing and gnashing of teeth that would have indicated anything so egregious could happen.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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That was a different occasion than the one I think you have in mind. Jesse convinced me not to give up.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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That was a different occasion than the one I think you have in mind. Jesse convinced me not to give up.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:00 PM (CL9FV)
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BUT - the tiny part does cut against them in man-sized hands. For men I recommend moving up to the P365 XL.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:56 PM
You can do the same thing with a 12-round magazine (and now have 15 and 17's available). There is some advantage to the 3.7" barrel on the XL, particularly if you want to run a red dot (IMHO). Sig has lots of mix and match now with the 3.1 and 3.7" barrels, and the regular, XL, and Macro grip module variants.
A great addition (again, IMHO) is the Wilson Combat P365 grip modules, although Sig has improved the ergos of the Macro grip modules, so the Wilson isn't quite as superior.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 08:56 PM
You can do the same thing with a 12-round magazine (and now have 15 and 17's available). There is some advantage to the 3.7" barrel on the XL, particularly if you want to run a red dot (IMHO). Sig has lots of mix and match now with the 3.1 and 3.7" barrels, and the regular, XL, and Macro grip module variants.
A great addition (again, IMHO) is the Wilson Combat P365 grip modules, although Sig has improved the ergos of the Macro grip modules, so the Wilson isn't quite as superior.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:01 PM (a3Q+t)
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... box tossed back into hall closet with the rest.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 09:02 PM (cOq4q)
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It's a 686, 7 round revolver, 4 inch barrel.
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I misread that as "7 pound" revolver at first!
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I misread that as "7 pound" revolver at first!
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 07, 2024 09:03 PM (2yu8s)
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SiD, thanks. That’s what I was looking for. DILIT is not quite a newbie shooter, but close.
I see where many folks’ first handgun was a .357 magnum in past years, but there’s so many different (perhaps better) choices today.
I see where many folks’ first handgun was a .357 magnum in past years, but there’s so many different (perhaps better) choices today.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:03 PM (E7aft)
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Also, if Weasel is ever up for any position in NRA leadership, I'll gladly start paying NRA dues again!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 07, 2024 08:58 PM (hOUT3)
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I'm sure I'd need a legal defense fund in short order!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 07, 2024 08:58 PM (hOUT3)
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I'm sure I'd need a legal defense fund in short order!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:03 PM (JwHpX)
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Ah, corrected I have been,
Box says "KP95D",
Manual says, 'Do not use this manual for pistols equiped with manual safeties or "Double Action Only" pistols'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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You have a nice fairly uncommon pistol that a lot of people prefer to the safety equipped model. I do know that the K prefix for the P series refers to stainless steel. The DAOs were to help older cops that used to fire revolvers by giving them a similar trigger press and weight. It became a market issue so Sig made their DAK models aimed mainly at the LEO market and even H&K came out with the LEM trigger.
Box says "KP95D",
Manual says, 'Do not use this manual for pistols equiped with manual safeties or "Double Action Only" pistols'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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You have a nice fairly uncommon pistol that a lot of people prefer to the safety equipped model. I do know that the K prefix for the P series refers to stainless steel. The DAOs were to help older cops that used to fire revolvers by giving them a similar trigger press and weight. It became a market issue so Sig made their DAK models aimed mainly at the LEO market and even H&K came out with the LEM trigger.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:03 PM (81RcT)
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241,
sid, I am trying very not to be upset with you for not going for the chainsaw bayonet option, but I am sure you will not make that mistake again!
sid, I am trying very not to be upset with you for not going for the chainsaw bayonet option, but I am sure you will not make that mistake again!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 07, 2024 09:03 PM (hOUT3)
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You can do the same thing with a 12-round magazine (and now have 15 and 17's available).
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Yes, I use the 12 round at minimum, otherwise I can't hold it properly.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Yes, I use the 12 round at minimum, otherwise I can't hold it properly.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 09:04 PM (0PGSy)
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Box says "KP95D",
Manual says, 'Do not use this manual for pistols equiped with manual safeties or "Double Action Only" pistols'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 08:59 PM (cOq4q)
K means stainless slide. The D is Decocker so it is DA/SA. Later it got the DC designation.
Manual says, 'Do not use this manual for pistols equiped with manual safeties or "Double Action Only" pistols'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 08:59 PM (cOq4q)
K means stainless slide. The D is Decocker so it is DA/SA. Later it got the DC designation.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 09:05 PM (IFNME)
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Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:00 PM (CL9FV)
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Everyone has a bad day at the range now and then. Everybody.
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Everyone has a bad day at the range now and then. Everybody.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:05 PM (JwHpX)
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Oh, the Smith third generation 6900 series will also allow full size 5900 series mags to be used and there are several aftermarket grip extenders for that.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:05 PM (81RcT)
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250 ... box tossed back into hall closet with the rest.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Nowadays, those firearm boxes are pretty collectible themselves as people always are trying to buy them for used firearms where the box was pitched down the line.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Nowadays, those firearm boxes are pretty collectible themselves as people always are trying to buy them for used firearms where the box was pitched down the line.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:06 PM (81RcT)
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SiD, thanks. That’s what I was looking for. DILIT is not quite a newbie shooter, but close.
I see where many folks’ first handgun was a .357 magnum in past years, but there’s so many different (perhaps better) choices today.
Posted by: RI Red
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If I knew then what I know now, I might have made a different choice. At the time (pre-Jesse) I thought it was the only gun I'd ever have (LOLOLOLOL) and I wanted a good CC pistol. And it is definitely that. So, no regerts.
It is fun to shoot when I'm having a decent day. I look down and somehow 100 rounds have gone poof! in no time at all.
I see where many folks’ first handgun was a .357 magnum in past years, but there’s so many different (perhaps better) choices today.
Posted by: RI Red
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If I knew then what I know now, I might have made a different choice. At the time (pre-Jesse) I thought it was the only gun I'd ever have (LOLOLOLOL) and I wanted a good CC pistol. And it is definitely that. So, no regerts.
It is fun to shoot when I'm having a decent day. I look down and somehow 100 rounds have gone poof! in no time at all.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:06 PM (CL9FV)
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Sig is coming around to using the MIL-STD-1913 rail, instead of their proprietary one, so chainsaw bayonet accessories that fit should be easier to source and procure.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:07 PM (a3Q+t)
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RI Red, i will put in a pitch for the G48. It has close to the same configuration as the G44 and it is a bit heavier so recoil was never an issue. I found the P365 too snappy for me. my only regret is that the G48 MOS was unavailable when I bought mine and now the MOS versions also come in colors like pink, blue and plum. the G48 only has a few parts so easy to clean.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 09:08 PM (t/2Uw)
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A great addition (again, IMHO) is the Wilson Combat P365 grip modules, although Sig has improved the ergos of the Macro grip modules, so the Wilson isn't quite as superior.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:01 PM (a3Q+t)
I don't disagree with any of that. I got the XL OI - with the Sig Romeo Zero installed. I am swinging back from the dots on everything stance, but only slightly. Dots on MOST things.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:01 PM (a3Q+t)
I don't disagree with any of that. I got the XL OI - with the Sig Romeo Zero installed. I am swinging back from the dots on everything stance, but only slightly. Dots on MOST things.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 09:08 PM (IFNME)
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I wish I had that two shot derringer Paladin used in Have Gun, Will Travel. No matter the range, it never missed. Very helpful since he lost his Colt at least once an episode.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 09:10 PM (7EjX1)
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sid, I am trying very not to be upset with you for not going for the chainsaw bayonet option, but I am sure you will not make that mistake again!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
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*kicks dirt*
*goes to corner to Think About What I Did*
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
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*kicks dirt*
*goes to corner to Think About What I Did*
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:10 PM (CL9FV)
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Everyone has a bad day at the range now and then. Everybody.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:05 PM
* nods in agreement *
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:05 PM
* nods in agreement *
Posted by: The Fourth Shot at January 07, 2024 09:10 PM (/Z7xb)
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:11 PM (JwHpX)
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I know I'm gonna get crap for this, but ... the few Sigs I've handled I didn't particularly like. I shot them well, but something about them just didn't work for me. I REALLY wanted to like the P365 and was prepared to buy one. But then I shot it and didn't like it. Don't remember exactly why.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM (5Skxj)
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What about me ruining a perfect group?
Posted by: Flyer at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM (81RcT)
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Sharon, I made the decision to start her on the G44 for that exact reason - she’ll know how to operate and take down every Glock out there. And it is the same size as the 19, 23, 32, etc,
I’m Sig-curious right now (because I don’t have any).
At least it’s not caliber creep. Just complete manufacturer creep.
I’m Sig-curious right now (because I don’t have any).
At least it’s not caliber creep. Just complete manufacturer creep.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:14 PM (E7aft)
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The movie was Wire Room.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 09:14 PM (IFNME)
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We have some sleety chunky rain out thar.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:14 PM (5Skxj)
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>>> The DAOs were to help older cops that used to fire revolvers by giving them a similar trigger press and weight.
So they had to lower the hammer while pulling the trigger?
I always point in safe direction when 'decocking', and generally would trust that over cowboy techniques.
So they had to lower the hammer while pulling the trigger?
I always point in safe direction when 'decocking', and generally would trust that over cowboy techniques.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 09:15 PM (cOq4q)
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Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM (5Skxj)
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Not a thing in the world wrong with that. If a gun is comfortable you will shoot it more confidently. Stuff that bugs you standing at the gun counter rarely gets better after you own the gun.
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Not a thing in the world wrong with that. If a gun is comfortable you will shoot it more confidently. Stuff that bugs you standing at the gun counter rarely gets better after you own the gun.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:15 PM (JwHpX)
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269 I know I'm gonna get crap for this, but ... the few Sigs I've handled I didn't particularly like. I shot them well, but something about them just didn't work for me. I REALLY wanted to like the P365 and was prepared to buy one. But then I shot it and didn't like it. Don't remember exactly why.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM (5Skxj)
Insert rolleyes emoji here.
But I guess you can't really question a lady who chooses to carry a 1911.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM (5Skxj)
Insert rolleyes emoji here.
But I guess you can't really question a lady who chooses to carry a 1911.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 09:16 PM (IFNME)
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I know I'm gonna get crap for this, but ... the few Sigs I've handled I didn't particularly like. I shot them well, but something about them just didn't work for me. I REALLY wanted to like the P365 and was prepared to buy one. But then I shot it and didn't like it. Don't remember exactly why.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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There is no perfect handgun for everyone--should really be driven by hand fit, ability to use controls without shifting firing grip, and what function you plan for it to serve. Home gun, carry gun, truck gun, and so on.
I like the old P series single stacks but the later double stacks did not fit my hand near as well.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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There is no perfect handgun for everyone--should really be driven by hand fit, ability to use controls without shifting firing grip, and what function you plan for it to serve. Home gun, carry gun, truck gun, and so on.
I like the old P series single stacks but the later double stacks did not fit my hand near as well.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:16 PM (81RcT)
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What about me ruining a perfect group?
Posted by: Flyer at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM (81RcT)
Hate has no home at my house, but I think you have a room here.
Posted by: Flyer at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM (81RcT)
Hate has no home at my house, but I think you have a room here.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:16 PM (E7aft)
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I know I'm gonna get crap for this, but
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM
Compared to the crap you get for shooting and liking 9mm instead of .45 ACP?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM
Compared to the crap you get for shooting and liking 9mm instead of .45 ACP?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:17 PM (a3Q+t)
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So they had to lower the hammer while pulling the trigger?
I always point in safe direction when 'decocking', and generally would trust that over cowboy techniques.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 09:15 PM (cOq4q)
No, the hammer never locked back. No decock necessary.
I always point in safe direction when 'decocking', and generally would trust that over cowboy techniques.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 09:15 PM (cOq4q)
No, the hammer never locked back. No decock necessary.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 09:17 PM (IFNME)
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know I'm gonna get crap for this, but ... the few Sigs I've handled I didn't particularly like. I shot them well, but something about them just didn't work for me. I REALLY wanted to like the P365 and was prepared to buy one. But then I shot it and didn't like it. Don't remember exactly why.
Posted by: nurse ratched
This is actually more common than you would think. For example, I can't shoot a Glock. Literally. I can't get the passive safety to work for some reason. Also , in the shotgun world, there are Beretta people and Browning people, and you would be surprised how many can shoot one and not the other.
Posted by: nurse ratched
This is actually more common than you would think. For example, I can't shoot a Glock. Literally. I can't get the passive safety to work for some reason. Also , in the shotgun world, there are Beretta people and Browning people, and you would be surprised how many can shoot one and not the other.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 09:18 PM (0PGSy)
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RI Red, It seemed counter intuitive to me. Being a woman, small hands, petite person, the tiny, lighter gun should have worked. But, it didn't. The longer barrel and heavier gun made for less recoil.
I shot the P226 today and liked it but it is not at all like the P365.
I shot the P226 today and liked it but it is not at all like the P365.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 09:18 PM (t/2Uw)
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Wayne LaPierre to be replaced by Claudine Gay.
Posted by: Babylon BB gun at January 07, 2024 09:18 PM (63Dwl)
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I REALLY wanted to like the P365 and was prepared to buy one. But then I shot it and didn't like it. Don't remember exactly why.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM (5Skxj)
Not unlike why I bought my IA Baby Eagle. As soon as I picked it up, it just "fit." Love at first sight, if you will.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:12 PM (5Skxj)
Not unlike why I bought my IA Baby Eagle. As soon as I picked it up, it just "fit." Love at first sight, if you will.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 07, 2024 09:19 PM (W/lyH)
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So they had to lower the hammer while pulling the trigger?
I always point in safe direction when 'decocking', and generally would trust that over cowboy techniques.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
No, by the time that revolvers were leaving the police forces, most required recruits to be taught to use them in double action only--no cocking. Some like NYPD were further and made then ordered them where the single action notch was eliminated on the hammer and the trigger spur was ground off. The DAO semi autos were like a DAO only revolver, you could only shoot them with a heavier trigger press--none of the crunch en tick of the DA/SA. The DAO also usually had the hammers rendered where you can't cock them so the police could not be sued by people alleging such.
I always point in safe direction when 'decocking', and generally would trust that over cowboy techniques.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
No, by the time that revolvers were leaving the police forces, most required recruits to be taught to use them in double action only--no cocking. Some like NYPD were further and made then ordered them where the single action notch was eliminated on the hammer and the trigger spur was ground off. The DAO semi autos were like a DAO only revolver, you could only shoot them with a heavier trigger press--none of the crunch en tick of the DA/SA. The DAO also usually had the hammers rendered where you can't cock them so the police could not be sued by people alleging such.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:20 PM (81RcT)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:20 PM (5vsma)
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Stuff that bugs you standing at the gun counter rarely gets better after you own the gun.
Posted by: Weasel
Truth
Posted by: Weasel
Truth
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 09:20 PM (t/2Uw)
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>>>Nowadays, those firearm boxes are pretty collectible themselves as people always are trying to buy them for used firearms where the box was pitched down the line.
Posted by: whig
I keep all the boxes and all the extra stuff they might have... user manual, reloader, lock thing.
Only so much room in the sock drawer for the good stuff.
Posted by: whig
I keep all the boxes and all the extra stuff they might have... user manual, reloader, lock thing.
Only so much room in the sock drawer for the good stuff.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 09:20 PM (cOq4q)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 09:20 PM (V8he0)
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Nice review rhomboid. Definitely going to pick up a few of those. Sounds like a good cigar.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 07, 2024 09:20 PM (W/lyH)
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Tiny and lighter sounds good, sharon.
But F=MA goes in both directions.
But F=MA goes in both directions.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:21 PM (E7aft)
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:21 PM (JwHpX)
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The longer barrel and heavier gun made for less recoil.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 09:18 PM
Newtonian physics can help explain this phenomenon.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 09:18 PM
Newtonian physics can help explain this phenomenon.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at January 07, 2024 09:21 PM (a3Q+t)
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If I have this right... All gubs are different and are more/less comfortable for different people. Your task is to find the right one. Also you will always be on the hunt for other gubs because others might be better and everyone is always curious about other gubs (and you can never have enough). Right?
Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Wayne LaPierre to be replaced by Claudine Gay.
Posted by: Babylon BB
He will gladly sell her all of his old speeches.
Posted by: Babylon BB
He will gladly sell her all of his old speeches.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM (0PGSy)
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM (JwHpX)
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About the nuke tests? Let’s not give the jihadis or NORKS any more ideas.
Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2024 09:23 PM (NxC5+)
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294 If I have this right... All gubs are different and are more/less comfortable for different people. Your task is to find the right one. Also you will always be on the hunt for other gubs because others might be better and everyone is always curious about other gubs (and you can never have enough). Right?
Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
ByJove I think you've got it!
Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
ByJove I think you've got it!
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 09:23 PM (IFNME)
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>>> vNo, the hammer never locked back. No decock necessary.
Posted by: blaster
Ahh, so it really was 'double action only'.
Posted by: blaster
Ahh, so it really was 'double action only'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 09:23 PM (cOq4q)
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If I have this right... All gubs are different and are more/less comfortable for different people. Your task is to find the right one. Also you will always be on the hunt for other gubs because others might be better and everyone is always curious about other gubs (and you can never have enough). Right?
Posted by: TRex
Exactly!
Posted by: TRex
Exactly!
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 09:23 PM (t/2Uw)
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Newtonian physics can help explain this phenomenon.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at January 07, 2024 09
Shut up, Wesley. Then see 291.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at January 07, 2024 09
Shut up, Wesley. Then see 291.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:23 PM (E7aft)
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Thanks Weasel and other commenters.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:24 PM (81RcT)
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Don't know about Horde Mind, but it appears that Weasel has Wesley Mind.
Posted by: The Fourth Shot at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM (kHFTq)
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Have a food one Weasel!
Thanxs for a great start to the year!
Thanxs for a great start to the year!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM (W/lyH)
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When it comes to brand loyalty, mine would be Ruger single action revolvers. Smith K-frames are wonderful but the Ruger SA just work for me. And they are more or less indestructible. I have a 357 Blackhawk and a Single-Six convertible from 1955. They still shoot superbly even after many, many thousands of rounds.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM (7EjX1)
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Compared to the crap you get for shooting and liking 9mm instead of .45 ACP?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
I never said that. I carry a 1911 in 9mm because I can conceal carry it. And I can not afford a fancy Kimber custom compact.
I shot .45 all day yesterday and it was a dream.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
I never said that. I carry a 1911 in 9mm because I can conceal carry it. And I can not afford a fancy Kimber custom compact.
I shot .45 all day yesterday and it was a dream.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM (3drxe)
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Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 08:21 PM (81RcT)
Thanks for the info, Whig. I made sure to put on a good coat of lubricant before today's range trip. That High Power was dry as a bone when I picked it up. I don't like shooting firearms dry. Tac sergeants and my NCOs beat that into my head.
Thanks for the info, Whig. I made sure to put on a good coat of lubricant before today's range trip. That High Power was dry as a bone when I picked it up. I don't like shooting firearms dry. Tac sergeants and my NCOs beat that into my head.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM (yRXSd)
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I have this right... All gubs are different and are more/less comfortable for different people. Your task is to find the right one. Also you will always be on the hunt for other gubs because others might be better and everyone is always curious about other gubs (and you can never have enough). Right?
Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
Gubs, women, …
Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
Gubs, women, …
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:26 PM (E7aft)
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Thanks for being here everyone!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:21 PM (JwHpX)
Thanks for putting up with us, Weasel! G'nite, all
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:21 PM (JwHpX)
Thanks for putting up with us, Weasel! G'nite, all
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at January 07, 2024 09:26 PM (PWe8a)
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 09:26 PM (yRXSd)
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I did not say that. I was hacked.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:26 PM (E7aft)
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 09:27 PM (IFNME)
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Thanks, Weasel. Yet another stellar Sunday night gub.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 09:27 PM (V8he0)
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Good one...
Stoopid phat thumb.
Stoopid phat thumb.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 07, 2024 09:27 PM (W/lyH)
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Night, weasel. Great start to the new year.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:28 PM (E7aft)
316
BFD, happy birthday!
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:28 PM (CL9FV)
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Hopefully my work stuff will calm down in the next several weeks and I can start paying more attention to the Gun Thread. Thank for your patience!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:28 PM (JwHpX)
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Thanks weasel.
I love this place.
I love this place.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 07, 2024 09:29 PM (t/2Uw)
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I never said that. I carry a 1911 in 9mm because I can conceal carry it. And I can not afford a fancy Kimber custom compact.
I shot .45 all day yesterday and it was a dream.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM
I forgot the ;-) at the end.
I've seen you shoot a 1911 in .45 ACP, you know.
I shot .45 all day yesterday and it was a dream.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM
I forgot the ;-) at the end.
I've seen you shoot a 1911 in .45 ACP, you know.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:29 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 09:30 PM (V8he0)
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (JwHpX)
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>>> It seemed counter intuitive to me. Being a woman, small hands, petite person, the tiny, lighter gun should have worked. But, it didn't. The longer barrel and heavier gun made for less recoil.
There is a YouTuber (Outlaw something..) that reviews a lot of guns and that is a common point he hits - bigger heavier gun with light slide and traditional hammer (vs striker) has less recoil --> race gun... and good gun for those with weaker grips.
His review of the Ruger Security 380 is why I got one for Wifey to try. She had no problem with Dad's Kimber 45, but relative to her size it is a bit clubby.
There is a YouTuber (Outlaw something..) that reviews a lot of guns and that is a common point he hits - bigger heavier gun with light slide and traditional hammer (vs striker) has less recoil --> race gun... and good gun for those with weaker grips.
His review of the Ruger Security 380 is why I got one for Wifey to try. She had no problem with Dad's Kimber 45, but relative to her size it is a bit clubby.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (cOq4q)
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Thanks Weasel and thanks 'rons and 'ettes. I learned stuff. We have a post count in excess of the food thread so Weasel's 2024 AoS performance review should be off to a good start.
Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (3drxe)
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I really like my Sig P365 with the extended 12 round magazine, which makes it the same size as the P365 X. If I was starting from scratch, I'd buy the P365 XL.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (CUv7Y)
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317 Hopefully my work stuff will calm down in the next several weeks and I can start paying more attention to the Gun Thread. Thank for your patience!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:28 PM (JwHpX)
I sent you content! All you have to do is cut and paste!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:28 PM (JwHpX)
I sent you content! All you have to do is cut and paste!
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (IFNME)
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It's fizicks.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM
That sounds suspiciously like math.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM
That sounds suspiciously like math.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (Wnv9h)
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Hopefully my work stuff will calm down in the next several weeks and I can start paying more attention to the Gun Thread. Thank for your patience!
Posted by: Weasel
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dammit
*puts matches away*
*whistles nonchalantly*
Posted by: Weasel
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dammit
*puts matches away*
*whistles nonchalantly*
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:32 PM (CL9FV)
329
Food Thread had 254 comments (as of now), so Weasel's evaluation by Ace is stellar for CY2024!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:32 PM (a3Q+t)
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I keep all the boxes and all the extra stuff they might have... user manual, reloader, lock thing.
Only so much room in the sock drawer for the good stuff.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Smart IAB. It can add up to an extra 100-200 bucks at sale if you have that stuff.
Only so much room in the sock drawer for the good stuff.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Smart IAB. It can add up to an extra 100-200 bucks at sale if you have that stuff.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:33 PM (81RcT)
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*puts matches away*
*whistles nonchalantly*
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:32 PM
Young lady, I hope you brought enough matches for everybody.
*whistles nonchalantly*
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:32 PM
Young lady, I hope you brought enough matches for everybody.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 09:33 PM (Wnv9h)
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" I have a 357 Blackhawk and a Single-Six convertible from 1955. They still shoot superbly even after many, many thousands of rounds.
Posted by: JTB"
************
So your Rugers are the old models with half and full cock instead of the hammer block like my new models?
Posted by: JTB"
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So your Rugers are the old models with half and full cock instead of the hammer block like my new models?
Posted by: Cosda at January 07, 2024 09:34 PM (dOk3f)
333
Food Thread had 254 comments (as of now), so Weasel's evaluation by Ace is stellar for CY2024!
One would think that it would demand a pay raise?
One would think that it would demand a pay raise?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 09:34 PM (V8he0)
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I just love any segment that begins with Atomic Blasts and You.
Love it!!!
Love it!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 07, 2024 09:34 PM (W/lyH)
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I sent you content! All you have to do is cut and paste!
Posted by: blaster
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I can help with that.
Posted by: blaster
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I can help with that.
Posted by: Claudine Gay at January 07, 2024 09:34 PM (CL9FV)
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dammit
*puts matches away*
*whistles nonchalantly*
Posted by: screaming in digital
What do I do with all these whipped cream pies?
*puts matches away*
*whistles nonchalantly*
Posted by: screaming in digital
What do I do with all these whipped cream pies?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:35 PM (3drxe)
337
Give FSJ and WCV2 some skritches.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (3drxe)
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Will do! I have taken FSJ to the office a couple of times lately and he loves it! The car ride to the office? Not so much, but he's getting better about it. He will get a big test next weekend when he goes on a road trip with us to TN.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (3drxe)
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Will do! I have taken FSJ to the office a couple of times lately and he loves it! The car ride to the office? Not so much, but he's getting better about it. He will get a big test next weekend when he goes on a road trip with us to TN.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:35 PM (JwHpX)
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If I was starting from scratch, I'd buy the P365 XL.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (CUv7Y)
Me too...and I can't carry more than 10 rounds, or it's a felony!
[Peoples Republic of New Jersey]
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (CUv7Y)
Me too...and I can't carry more than 10 rounds, or it's a felony!
[Peoples Republic of New Jersey]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2024 09:35 PM (gSZYf)
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Posted by: TRex at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
Gubs are like shoes. What fits me probably won't fit you. Shoes are (usually) made for a specific purpose. They are best for that purpose. You wouldn't wear your dress shoes for a 5k run, nor would you wear flip flops to a formal event. That snub nosed .38 Colt Detective Special isn't what you'd use for a long range competition with 50 yard targets. And you don't want to even try to conceal carry an H&K Mark 23. So you get more gubs for the specific purposes you have in mind. And the list keeps growing, and growing...
Gubs are like shoes. What fits me probably won't fit you. Shoes are (usually) made for a specific purpose. They are best for that purpose. You wouldn't wear your dress shoes for a 5k run, nor would you wear flip flops to a formal event. That snub nosed .38 Colt Detective Special isn't what you'd use for a long range competition with 50 yard targets. And you don't want to even try to conceal carry an H&K Mark 23. So you get more gubs for the specific purposes you have in mind. And the list keeps growing, and growing...
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 09:35 PM (yRXSd)
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One would think that it would demand a pay raise?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 09:34 PM (V8he0
He now gets Flossers in the Dental Plan.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 09:34 PM (V8he0
He now gets Flossers in the Dental Plan.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:36 PM (E7aft)
341
What do I do with all these whipped cream pies?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:35 PM
You can hide them over here with my seltzer bottles.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:35 PM
You can hide them over here with my seltzer bottles.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 09:36 PM (Wnv9h)
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Me too...and I can't carry more than 10 rounds, or it's a felony!
[Peoples Republic of New Jersey]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2024 09:35 PM (gSZYf)
Wait - does that mean you can't carry an extra mag?
[Peoples Republic of New Jersey]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2024 09:35 PM (gSZYf)
Wait - does that mean you can't carry an extra mag?
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2024 09:36 PM (IFNME)
343
Food Thread had 254 comments (as of now), so Weasel's evaluation by Ace is stellar for CY2024!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:32 PM (a3Q+t)
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All of my eval metrics are OK, but I constantly get marked down for having a bad attitude.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:32 PM (a3Q+t)
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All of my eval metrics are OK, but I constantly get marked down for having a bad attitude.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:37 PM (JwHpX)
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Will do! I have taken FSJ to the office a couple of times lately and he loves it!
Damn, I misunderstood. FSJ is still with us? It was WD who crossed the Rainbow Bridge?
Damn, I misunderstood. FSJ is still with us? It was WD who crossed the Rainbow Bridge?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2024 09:37 PM (V8he0)
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Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (cOq4q)
Sounds like the Honest Outlaw You Tube channel.
Sounds like the Honest Outlaw You Tube channel.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 09:37 PM (yRXSd)
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Regarding the video of She Equips Herself, I have the exact same Ukoala bag. Excellent gun carrying bag and IMO far more secure than carrying a typical carry purse. Lots of guys own them also as they are good for riding motorcycles and carrying. Most of that video is too much reality show, but the brief segment on the bag is worth watching. Ukoala has a website also.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 07, 2024 09:38 PM (Ivdh/)
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I shot .45 all day yesterday and it was a dream.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM (3drxe)
Or you were dreaming?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM (3drxe)
Or you were dreaming?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2024 09:38 PM (gSZYf)
348
Notice how CBD only shows up after eating everything he made in the last thread? Or even doing the dishes?
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:38 PM (E7aft)
349
It's fizicks.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM
That sounds suspiciously like math.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (Wnv9h)
Velocities, mass, vectors, acceleration, and a black board filled with weird formulae and other odd looking thingies.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:22 PM
That sounds suspiciously like math.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 09:31 PM (Wnv9h)
Velocities, mass, vectors, acceleration, and a black board filled with weird formulae and other odd looking thingies.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 07, 2024 09:38 PM (W/lyH)
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Something else to keep in mind, a narrower grip will give more felt recoil than a wider grip. In addition, metal is more unyielding than wood, and wood is more unyielding than polymer/rubber and that will also affect felt recoil as will the actual design of the grips. This is something that becomes more important if you like older firearms. Wood grips are stylish but the old splinter type grips in something like a Colt Cobra or Detective can generate unpleasantness to your hand similar to smacking them with a ruler each time you fire something like the FBI load.
PPK in 380 ACP is a classic example--extremely narrow grip that makes it great to conceal but quite a bit of felt recoil when fired.
PPK in 380 ACP is a classic example--extremely narrow grip that makes it great to conceal but quite a bit of felt recoil when fired.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:38 PM (81RcT)
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Velocities, mass, vectors, acceleration, and a black board filled with weird formulae and other odd looking thingies.
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And a small notation... "then a miracle happens".
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And a small notation... "then a miracle happens".
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 07, 2024 09:40 PM (2yu8s)
352
Young lady, I hope you brought enough matches for everybody.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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*hands RMBS the gas can*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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*hands RMBS the gas can*
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:40 PM (CL9FV)
353
All of my eval metrics are OK, but I constantly get marked down for having a bad attitude.
Posted by: Weasel
What, I thought having a bad attitude was a REQUIREMENT for a COB?
Posted by: Weasel
What, I thought having a bad attitude was a REQUIREMENT for a COB?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 07, 2024 09:41 PM (hOUT3)
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Whig, I felt bad about taking the wood grips off my old SWModel 10 and Colt Cobra .38s. But the Hogues made them so much easier.
I did keep the woodies for posterity.
I did keep the woodies for posterity.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:42 PM (E7aft)
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*hands RMBS the gas can*
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:40 PM
*cranks Pyromania*
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:40 PM
*cranks Pyromania*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 09:43 PM (Wnv9h)
356
Thanks for the info, Whig. I made sure to put on a good coat of lubricant before today's range trip. That High Power was dry as a bone when I picked it up. I don't like shooting firearms dry. Tac sergeants and my NCOs beat that into my head.
Posted by: Ed L
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I bought one Smith Third Generation via auction with an alloy frame, some cop apparently did not lube it properly and it had quite a bit of galling at the rear right side rails. Hadn't had a chance to shoot it yet but suspect it will affect function and be kind of a pain to fix.
Posted by: Ed L
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I bought one Smith Third Generation via auction with an alloy frame, some cop apparently did not lube it properly and it had quite a bit of galling at the rear right side rails. Hadn't had a chance to shoot it yet but suspect it will affect function and be kind of a pain to fix.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:43 PM (81RcT)
357
RMBS, does your Mom know you play with matches??!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:45 PM (E7aft)
358
RMBS, the latest promo email from PSA featured a flamethrower on clearance for $350.
I've got a bit of $ sitting around. Whaddya think?
I've got a bit of $ sitting around. Whaddya think?
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:45 PM (CL9FV)
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354 Whig, I felt bad about taking the wood grips off my old SWModel 10 and Colt Cobra .38s. But the Hogues made them so much easier.
I did keep the woodies for posterity.
Posted by: RI Red
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My firearms are what I consider tools and I use grips that are comfortable for me. Hogues are at the top of the list along with Pachmyrs.
I try to give those old wood grips some wood love every now and then with some natural oil like tung, birch, or linseed oils. Keeps them from cracking.
I did keep the woodies for posterity.
Posted by: RI Red
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My firearms are what I consider tools and I use grips that are comfortable for me. Hogues are at the top of the list along with Pachmyrs.
I try to give those old wood grips some wood love every now and then with some natural oil like tung, birch, or linseed oils. Keeps them from cracking.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:46 PM (81RcT)
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347 I shot .45 all day yesterday and it was a dream.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM (3drxe)
Or you were dreaming?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Neener Neener Neener
I can carry more than 10 rounds.
Oh wait. No. I can't. And we have to take a firearms safety course and show the certificate to purchase a gun now.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:25 PM (3drxe)
Or you were dreaming?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Neener Neener Neener
I can carry more than 10 rounds.
Oh wait. No. I can't. And we have to take a firearms safety course and show the certificate to purchase a gun now.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:46 PM (3drxe)
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I'm sure I'd need a legal defense fund in short order!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:03 PM (JwHpX)
How different would things be with the head of the NRA telling everyone "Buy ammo!" and "Practice fundamentals!"
Would it change the paradigm of the organization?
And thanks, Weasel, for another great gun thread!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:03 PM (JwHpX)
How different would things be with the head of the NRA telling everyone "Buy ammo!" and "Practice fundamentals!"
Would it change the paradigm of the organization?
And thanks, Weasel, for another great gun thread!
Posted by: GWB at January 07, 2024 09:46 PM (sSx7k)
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SiD and RMBS. A match made in Gub Heaven.
Calling it here in 2024.
Calling it here in 2024.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:47 PM (E7aft)
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I put Hogue Combat grips on anything I want to shoot well, and the originals go into a baggie with an identifying note.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:48 PM (JwHpX)
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Thanks Weasel, and the rest of the Horde. Have a good week and see y'all next Sunday!
Posted by: Grateful at January 07, 2024 09:49 PM (IQ6Gq)
365
Noodus
Posted by: Rex B at January 07, 2024 09:49 PM (5h/8D)
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I can carry more than 10 rounds.
Oh wait. No. I can't. And we have to take a firearms safety course and show the certificate to purchase a gun now.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:46 PM (3drxe)
Nurse,
Tomorrow I'll send you an email about that class.
An easy so!ution.
Oh wait. No. I can't. And we have to take a firearms safety course and show the certificate to purchase a gun now.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:46 PM (3drxe)
Nurse,
Tomorrow I'll send you an email about that class.
An easy so!ution.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 07, 2024 09:49 PM (W/lyH)
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put Hogue Combat grips on anything I want to shoot well, and the originals go into a baggie with an identifying note.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:48 PM (JwHpX)
You ARE paying attention!
Yes, I have baggies, too.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:48 PM (JwHpX)
You ARE paying attention!
Yes, I have baggies, too.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:49 PM (E7aft)
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Whig, I felt bad about taking the wood grips off my old SWModel 10 and Colt Cobra .38s. But the Hogues made them so much easier.
I did keep the woodies for posterity.
Posted by: RI Red
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Same with my 1917 revolver, except Pachmayr.
I can shoot it all day long now, or until I run out of ammo, whichever comes first. Before, I could only manage about 18 rounds before I had enough.
I did keep the woodies for posterity.
Posted by: RI Red
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Same with my 1917 revolver, except Pachmayr.
I can shoot it all day long now, or until I run out of ammo, whichever comes first. Before, I could only manage about 18 rounds before I had enough.
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:50 PM (CL9FV)
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363 I put Hogue Combat grips on anything I want to shoot well, and the originals go into a baggie with an identifying note.
Posted by: Weasel
Keeping up with OEM grips is not hard, keeping up with OEM sights, extractors, mag releases, triggers, and etc not so much.
Posted by: Weasel
Keeping up with OEM grips is not hard, keeping up with OEM sights, extractors, mag releases, triggers, and etc not so much.
Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2024 09:50 PM (NxC5+)
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Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:45 PM (CL9FV)
Warning to trespassers on SiD's estate: "You are afraid. Amber lashes of searing flame, lungs filled with acrid smoke. You ought to be afraid. You're made out of meat."
Warning to trespassers on SiD's estate: "You are afraid. Amber lashes of searing flame, lungs filled with acrid smoke. You ought to be afraid. You're made out of meat."
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 09:51 PM (yRXSd)
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Nurse,
Tomorrow I'll send you an email about that class.
An easy so!ution.
Posted by: Diogenes
Is it the online version where you just click through, click to verify, download and print and sign the certificate?
Tomorrow I'll send you an email about that class.
An easy so!ution.
Posted by: Diogenes
Is it the online version where you just click through, click to verify, download and print and sign the certificate?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 07, 2024 09:51 PM (3drxe)
372
Or you were dreaming?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2024 09:38 PM
The Defense rests.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2024 09:38 PM
The Defense rests.
Posted by: Clarence Darrow, on behalf of Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:51 PM (a3Q+t)
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Welp, ONT has kicked us to the curb. Nite everyone and hope to see you next Sunday (from the road)!
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 09:52 PM (JwHpX)
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Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:38 PM (81RcT)
I guess there's a reason why the final production run of Colt Detective Specials in 1993-95 came with Hogue rubber grips as standard.
I guess there's a reason why the final production run of Colt Detective Specials in 1993-95 came with Hogue rubber grips as standard.
Posted by: Ed L at January 07, 2024 09:53 PM (yRXSd)
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What, I thought having a bad attitude was a REQUIREMENT for a COB?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 07, 2024 09:41 PM
I think it's more of a consequence. You can only fix so many close tags for the boss, you know.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana - again! ~ at January 07, 2024 09:41 PM
I think it's more of a consequence. You can only fix so many close tags for the boss, you know.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:54 PM (a3Q+t)
376
Nite, weasel. Road trip!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:54 PM (E7aft)
377
Keeping up with OEM grips is not hard, keeping up with OEM sights, extractors, mag releases, triggers, and etc not so much.
Posted by: Eromero
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I keep spare sets of firearm parts for my vintage ones and have them separated using the plastic baggie and tag method. Fortunately my pharmacy keeps me well supplied with baggies as they give all their prescriptions out that way with the bottle and receipt inside the baggie.
Big rifle parts--barrels, stocks, and that sort of thing, I got to where I use painter's masking tape labels. One Mauser barrel can look pretty much like another.
Posted by: Eromero
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I keep spare sets of firearm parts for my vintage ones and have them separated using the plastic baggie and tag method. Fortunately my pharmacy keeps me well supplied with baggies as they give all their prescriptions out that way with the bottle and receipt inside the baggie.
Big rifle parts--barrels, stocks, and that sort of thing, I got to where I use painter's masking tape labels. One Mauser barrel can look pretty much like another.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:54 PM (81RcT)
378
Peace out, Weasel. Thanks for another great gub thread.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 09:54 PM (Wnv9h)
379
I'm a Beretta 92FS fan. I fired many, many, many rounds through it and I can remember that the misfires could be counted on one hand. And they were all reloads.
The late Louis Awerbuck used my Beretta to demonstrate the "prison grab" (that's what i call it) where the perp grabs the slide from the top and presses the slide release at the same time. After the third try, he finally pulled it off (so to speak) and it took me 15 minutes to find the recoil spring. Good times.
The late Louis Awerbuck used my Beretta to demonstrate the "prison grab" (that's what i call it) where the perp grabs the slide from the top and presses the slide release at the same time. After the third try, he finally pulled it off (so to speak) and it took me 15 minutes to find the recoil spring. Good times.
Posted by: mrp at January 07, 2024 09:55 PM (rj6Yv)
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One Mauser barrel can look pretty much like another.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:54 PM
Except for the ones procured by the French.
Those are pristine.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:54 PM
Except for the ones procured by the French.
Those are pristine.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 07, 2024 09:55 PM (a3Q+t)
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I guess there's a reason why the final production run of Colt Detective Specials in 1993-95 came with Hogue rubber grips as standard.
Posted by: Ed L a
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Hogues have one annoying feature for carry firearms, the rubber is a bit too grippy for pocket carry draws. Pachmyrs are less grippy with their Combat version.
Posted by: Ed L a
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Hogues have one annoying feature for carry firearms, the rubber is a bit too grippy for pocket carry draws. Pachmyrs are less grippy with their Combat version.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:56 PM (81RcT)
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Nite, weasel. Road trip!
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:54 PM
Hmmm...June is just down the road. But I have a scope to mount before then.
Posted by: RI Red at January 07, 2024 09:54 PM
Hmmm...June is just down the road. But I have a scope to mount before then.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 09:56 PM (Wnv9h)
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Except for the ones procured by the French.
Those are pristine.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Well, I guess the French have not dropped them once.
Those are pristine.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Well, I guess the French have not dropped them once.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:57 PM (81RcT)
384
Bye folks.
Posted by: whig at January 07, 2024 09:57 PM (81RcT)
385
RMBS, the latest promo email from PSA featured a flamethrower on clearance for $350.
I've got a bit of $ sitting around. Whaddya think?
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:45 PM
Hmm. This idea has merit...
I've got a bit of $ sitting around. Whaddya think?
Posted by: screaming in digital at January 07, 2024 09:45 PM
Hmm. This idea has merit...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 07, 2024 09:58 PM (Wnv9h)
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332 ... "So your Rugers are the old models with half and full cock instead of the hammer block like my new models?"
Yup! Since I don't carry them and just shoot at the range the transfer bar isn't a big deal. If I carried them in a holster I would load five rounds (load one, skip one, load four) and have the hammer on an empty chamber.
Yup! Since I don't carry them and just shoot at the range the transfer bar isn't a big deal. If I carried them in a holster I would load five rounds (load one, skip one, load four) and have the hammer on an empty chamber.
Posted by: JTB at January 07, 2024 10:00 PM (7EjX1)
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I thought the cigar was sitting on a checkerboard!
Which would have been a very cool checkerboard!
Which would have been a very cool checkerboard!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2024 10:02 PM (gSZYf)
388
We introduced a new member to the family, wife got a 20ga Stoeger coach Gun....
~479 bucks of SASS goodness.
~479 bucks of SASS goodness.
Posted by: sven at January 07, 2024 10:03 PM (X0I7i)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2024 10:02 PM (gSZYf)
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It's an even cooler ammo tray.
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It's an even cooler ammo tray.
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2024 10:03 PM (JwHpX)
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