Gun Thread: Happy One Week After the Night Before Christmas Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving hell did it get to be One Week After the Night Before Christmas? How many of you choose to celebrate? Do you go out and whoop it up, or are you usually asleep on the couch by 10:30, which is the Weasel M.O.? Thinking back I believe the last time I was up at the stroke of midnight was for 2000 with a small group of amigos, and since the world didn't end, went home shortly thereafter. Anyway, Happy New Year everyone!

I am still way behind on all of my email correspondence, so many thanks for your continued patience.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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Happy F'n New Year!

Q: Weasel, what is going to be the Gun Thread focus for 2024?
A: I think I am going to dedicate 2024 to harping on fundamentals. Thank you for asking.

Fundamentals, people. Fundamentals.

When was the last time you really focused on them at the range? When was the last time you concentrated on stance, grip, sight alignment and trigger pull? Hmm????

Below are some helpful diagnostic charts.

And for a greatly simplified example:

So what is your New Years resolution and does it include practicing fundamentals and buying ammo?

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This guy is all muscly and says he was a SEAL, so he must know what he's talking about.

Here's a vid on sight picture.

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Gun Review
Let's take a look at the Sig P365

Weasel are not a fan of polymer guns but that's just Weasel. YMMV.

Anyhoo, here's hikok45 with one:

and here is some other guy with one.

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What has our pal RI Red been up to?

I thought Wolf was cheap, crappy, dirty, steel-cased commie ammo. Not so in .22. Made by Eley in England. And it out shot Eley Match and 10 X in both my Christiansen Ranger and my Ruger Precision Rimfire.

Nice shooting RI Red!

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Stupid Question Department

Q: Weasel, is it true there are no stupid questions?
A: No, no, a thousand times NO! There are endless stupid questions, and whether or not revolvers are still relevant is very clearly one of them.

Our pal Mas Ayoob helps tackle this knotty problem.

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Kleening Korner
Soiled your relevant stainless steel revolver practicing your fundamentals?

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Alternatives to Firearms
These little fellas look like fun!

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Guess Who?

Bonus question: Guess what Weasel got for Christmas?

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Bizarre Characteristics of Uranus
Does Uranus have bizarre characteristics? If yes, you might want to see your doctor.

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Beat the Bomb!

Why yes, you can beat the bomb!

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Organic Tree Farming
A little refresher on pine resin.

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Musical Interlude
How about 12 hours of Tibetan meditation music?

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Gun Basics 101
Just in time for Christmas, here is the She Equips Herself gal with a holiday gift guide!

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Cigar of the Week

Obviously not a cigar, but here is how I like lighting mine. I know, I know - I am doing it wrong and ruining the cigar and probably causing climate change in the process, but nothing beats a good 'ol Zippo.

I seem to keep finding things to collect. Although I mostly look for vintage Zippo's with offbeat advertising, does it surprise anyone that I couldn't pass this up?

Here's a look at the bottom where clues to the date of manufacture can be found. The B and XV on the bottom of the case indicate this Zippo was made in1999. Do you have an old Zippo lighter laying around? Here are a couple of charts with date codes.

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo NEW!

***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal WTM. This is a really great one!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 Happy New year!!!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:00 PM (f0/sc)

2 bang Z-X3

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 07:01 PM (NxC5+)

3 Happy Gub Thread!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 31, 2023 07:01 PM (maYGA)

4 Sorry I was not here last week for the Christmas edition. Was sick all weekend. Bah humbug.

Wishing all of you a Happy and Safe New Year!!! Looking forward to what the year brings.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:02 PM (f0/sc)

5 Greetings, fellow Morons and 'Ettes, and as always, thank you dear Mr. Weasel for your ongoing efforts to make this thread the ONLY place to be on a Sunday evening. Back in a bit...

Posted by: Cowboyneal at December 31, 2023 07:02 PM (/jWPx)

6 Hello, Weasel! And a Happy New Year to all.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 07:03 PM (yRXSd)

7 Good evening everyone
Happy New Year

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 07:04 PM (fwDg9)

8 scuba, you're doing better than I. I was so wiped out I've been out of action for two gun threads.

Thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 07:04 PM (tT6L1)

9 Fundamentallsare a good resolution.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 07:06 PM (W/lyH)

10 The final gun thread of 2023. Good thing we all know better than to go outside and discharge our guns into the night air.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 31, 2023 07:07 PM (I6hse)

11 Happy New Year, Weasel …

And thank you for the always informative 2023 gun threads.

Posted by: Adriane the Sci Fi Critic . . . at December 31, 2023 07:08 PM (4Winp)

12 Damn it.
Fundamentals are a goodresoluzation. .

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 07:08 PM (W/lyH)

13 I am giving serious thought to making a bullpup BRN-180 18 inch build.

Posted by: sven at December 31, 2023 07:08 PM (X0I7i)

14 Well crap.

I'm shooting more in '24!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 07:09 PM (W/lyH)

15 Here! Happy new years!
Except we are doing Christmas today now the Jr and DILIT are here. She got a metric sh*t-ton of pewpew stuff to go with her G44.
Be in and out tonight.
Best to all!

Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 07:09 PM (4WoWo)

16 The final gun thread of 2023. Good thing we all know better than to go outside and discharge our guns into the night air.
Posted by: Ben Had

Well … if we waited until 12:01, technically it would be morning …

Just sayin’

Posted by: Adriane the Sci Fi Critic . . . at December 31, 2023 07:09 PM (4Winp)

17 Happy new year, gun horde. If you're feeling bad about not getting me anything for Christmas, there's still time to bid on a High Standard 10-X on gunbroker. Or, you could, ya know, just get over it.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 07:10 PM (sNc8Y)

18 So, due to the fact I'm finally recovering, I manage to have a range report.

I headed out to our local range to do some shooting at our 500 meter silhouette range. And, thanks to Gun Sensei Weaselsan, I had a plan, a pen and a notebook.

The idea was to note the how much the scope needed to come up at various ranges, 200 meters, 300 meters, all the way out to 500 meters. I worked with two guns yesterday, My Noreen Carbine X and my Savage. It was interesting to see how much variation there was between the 16" barrel on the Noreen and the 22" barrel on the Savage. Anyway, my eventual goal: the Noreen becomes my designated 500 Meter Silhouette rifle while the Savage becomes my designated 1,000 yard rifle. We shall see.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 07:10 PM (tT6L1)

19 Damn blake, hope you are feeling better.

Thankfully no work tomorrow so I can hang for a bit. But I did just start watching The Fellowship of the Ring (extended version). Will start the 2nd half after I am done here and may go on to watch The Two Towers.

Any who, still no range time for me and the girls are still in the Pelican case where they have been locked up since October when the last shot rang out at the Texas MoMe.

I have renewed my membership at my range and also donated some money too.

Thinking of hitting the indoor range by me and renting potential CC candidates. Somehow I get the feeling it might be the Sig P365 XMacro. But willing to try others.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:12 PM (f0/sc)

20 Thank you for the whole year of Sundays Weasel!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 07:14 PM (k+eYX)

21 Weasel, from time to time, you've mentioned that old gun threads are archived at your Weasel Acres site. Can you post a link for that? Specifically, I am looking for the one you did a few years ago about the load development process.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 07:14 PM (sNc8Y)

22 I'll bet that the B on your Zippo means it was made in February!

Posted by: Otto Zilch at December 31, 2023 07:14 PM (npRIq)

23 I am also contemplating giving the lad our PC carbine and starting to trick out another one.

His began life as a sadly California compliant model that we fixed up by putting it on a new chassis and adding ambi controls and spare charging handle.

It will never been a 500 yard gun, but it is loads of fun as a 300 foot gun.

Posted by: sven at December 31, 2023 07:14 PM (X0I7i)

24 Oh, NM. There's the link down there at the bottom of the content. Yeah, like I'm gonna read that.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 07:15 PM (sNc8Y)

25 Really appreciate what you put in here every Sunday Weasel. I learn something every time.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 07:16 PM (W/lyH)

26 The final gun thread of 2023. Good thing we all know better than to go outside and discharge our guns into the night air.
Posted by: Ben Had

Looks around sheepishly.
Puts 12g slugs back into box and Wingmaster back in case.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 07:16 PM (k+eYX)

27 By the way, I'm sorely tempted to head over to CA with the Noreen with its 20 round detachable magazine and shooting a match.

But, I also fear CA confiscating first and asking questions later.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 07:18 PM (tT6L1)

28 Happy New Year, Horde!

Wow, Weasel, finishing out the old year with mucho content - it's gonna take a while to go through it all!

Happens I did get a little shooting done this week, and also happens I concentrated on the fundamentals - trigger press, mostly. Seemed to pay off.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 31, 2023 07:18 PM (PWe8a)

29 AZ deplorable, I say that in jest but some of the neighbors do just that.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 31, 2023 07:19 PM (I6hse)

30 AZ deplorable, I say that in jest but some of the neighbors do just that.
Posted by: Ben Had

I hear them in the desert around this place and huddle inside.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 07:20 PM (k+eYX)

31 Good evening all. Special thanks to our intrepid host, Mr. Weasel without whom I would not enjoy this weekly tradition. May your evening be safe and enjoyable.

Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 31, 2023 07:21 PM (L3byd)

32 I hear them in the desert around this place and huddle inside.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 07:20 PM (k+eYX)
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Yeah, we're county where we're at and we get a few booms which are quite obviously generated by gunfire.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 07:21 PM (tT6L1)

33 LOL, Weasel, that might be the last time I was up at midnight for New Years, too!

I remember standing on the back porch, watching the lights of the city in the distance, listening to sporadic gun / pyrotechnics fire ...
the lights stayed on, the gunfire didn't pick up ... finished my cig & went to bed.

Same as it ever was.

Happy New Year everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, for certain values of sock, rat, & Eez ... at December 31, 2023 07:22 PM (kc18b)

34 Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 07:14 PM (sNc8Y)
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That whole archive is a complete mess. It probably makes more sense to just walk you thru it, so send me an email. If there is enough interest I can write something up.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 07:23 PM (JwHpX)

35 And a happy New Year to all creatures, great and small at the Weasel homestead. *hoists a glass to FSJ*

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 07:24 PM (V8he0)

36 Howdy Weasel!

Howdy Gub-Threaders!

Happy New Year!!!!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:24 PM (HlyYF)

37 Went to the Chantilly show this weekend. I took home a new 2 1/2 inch barreled Colt Python. This variant comes with thin service grips vice the larger target grips that equip its longer barreled siblings. The only choice of finish is still high polish stainless steel. Apparently, Colt has not made a big deal out of re-introducing this Python variant. The Colt website has no mention of the return of the 2 1/2 inch Python. MSRP is still $1499, but I picked mine up for $1399.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 07:26 PM (yRXSd)

38 That whole archive is a complete mess. It probably makes more sense to just walk you thru it, so send me an email. If there is enough interest I can write something up.

Thanks. I think the Gooble Machine found what I was looking for.

https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=387754

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 07:26 PM (sNc8Y)

39 Took my Vz 52 and Vz 52/57 out this week to contrast and compare. The Vz 52 was insanely accurate out to 600 yards. Almost too easy. The Czech 7.62 x 45 is a nice round although obsolete now. The Vz 52/57 also shot well but suffered after the 300 yard distance, had to play with the elevation and hold to make hits on the steel at that distance being 7.62 x 39. Rapid fire for both at 150 yards worked quite well with the nod going to the Vz 52 for repeated center hits on the steel torso targets.

The Czechs make good stuff.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2023 07:28 PM (R/m4+)

40 Brief range report:
Took my niece who was in town all week. This time we used the 5.7 Rock, the SW K-38 my father used in competition, and the G2C that Mrs CM66 and I each carry. This was only her second time shooting, so I was impressed that she went with the larger calibers.

She wasn't quite as afraid of the blast and recoil this time. We started with the 5.7 and by the time she had been through both magazines (46 rounds) she was all in the critical zone with the last 10.

The K38 threw her until she went to single action. I think she was still flinching from the blast though.....the uncontained revolver action.

By the time we got to the G2C she was doing OK, at least keeping everything in the 7 ring or closer which is all torso hits. So a good trip, and she enjoyed herself which is the most important thing.

Now back to content. Thanks to all who chip in every week. I have learned a lot, and my father who was a collector and an armorer was no slouch. Lots of good folks here.

Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 31, 2023 07:28 PM (L3byd)

41 34 Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 07:23 PM

Sounds like a potential New Years Resolution!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:29 PM (f0/sc)

42 I do think every year to go out and ram a charge of black powder down Bess and fire it off.
But it's cold outside, and would need to clean it afterwards

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 07:29 PM (fwDg9)

43 Sounds like a potential New Years Resolution!!
Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:29 PM (f0/sc)
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Thanks for stepping-up, Scoob. Let me know when you would like to get started!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 07:30 PM (JwHpX)

44 Navy SEAL's advice wasn't bad, even though that's not how I was taught to shoot while in the Parachute Ski Marines stationed in Macho Grande; however, I take exception to forcing the thumb of the support hand to point along the slide. I say doing so increases the chance of the thumb bumping into the slide lock lever at an inopportune time.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 31, 2023 07:30 PM (yWvc2)

45 At any rate Vernon lake is down, you can hear the gators barking.

Posted by: sven at December 31, 2023 07:31 PM (X0I7i)

46 Can I get some Moron advice on selling guns?

I have a non-gun buddy that just inherited his father-in-law's collection. Probably worth around $10,000? Some old Savage 99s in good shape, Citori shotgun, Ithaca Model 100 shotgun, etc.

1.) What is the best venue to get an accurate appraisal? (In a medium-sized city.)

2.) What is the best way to sell the guns?

Thanks!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:33 PM (HlyYF)

47 I no longer have any guns. I gave almost all of my guns to two of my brothers who came up B4 Christmas. I only kept my SS 357. My neighbor who was supposedly coming by to feed my animals stole it and a lot of other stuff while I was in the hospital

Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 07:33 PM (A5THL)

48 Damn it.
Fundamentals are a goodresoluzation. .
Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 07:08 PM

Stuff Biden said?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 31, 2023 07:35 PM (maYGA)

49 43 Thanks for stepping-up, Scoob. Let me know when you would like to get started!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 07:30 PM

You have reached a non-working Nic at AoS.

Please try your message again

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:36 PM (f0/sc)

50 And would be good opportunity to try my home made black powder

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 07:36 PM (fwDg9)

51 1.) What is the best venue to get an accurate appraisal? (In a medium-sized city.)

2.) What is the best way to sell the guns?

Thanks!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:33 PM (HlyYF)
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Gun Broker is probably a good way to get a decent idea of how much a firearm is worth. Plug in the make, model and caliber and see what comparable firearms are selling for. Then sell on Gun Broker.

I've no idea of the fee structure or anything but, the reach of Gun Broker versus selling locally might be worth the trouble.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 07:37 PM (tT6L1)

52 Happy New Year!

I don't participate much in this thread as I am still a complete novice on this topic.

I wish everyone here a happy and prosperous New Year!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 31, 2023 07:37 PM (BpYfr)

53 Gaston Glock passed away on Wednesday, 12/27/23. He was 89.

In his memory, let us set our strikers at half-cock.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 07:37 PM (a3Q+t)

54 I don't have anything to contribute other than to say Thanks to Weasel and the regulars for the gun threads- I learn stuff here, especially from the videos-

and I only bought one gun this year-
Cheers!

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 07:38 PM (geLO8)

55 47 Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 07:33 PM (A5THL)

That sucks Vic, I had several weapons stolen from me when I lived in SC.

It seemed to be the state sport for a lot of years.

Posted by: sven at December 31, 2023 07:38 PM (X0I7i)

56 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:33 PM (HlyYF)

Whig can help you more on this, but here's my quick and dirty summary.

If you want to just sell them off ASAP and don't care about how much $$ you get, go to your local gun shop and ask them to put them up for sale or on consignment (or on Gun Broker). This will usually get you more $$ for your guns (assuming that they're desirable on the market), but can take some time before you see the $$ go into your pocket.

If you have time, you might want to contact one of the big auction outfits that specialize in firearms (Rock Island, Morphy's, Collectors' Firearms) and have them go through the process to put them into the pipeline for their next auction.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 07:40 PM (yRXSd)

57 > 1.) What is the best venue to get an accurate appraisal? (In a medium-sized city.)

2.) What is the best way to sell the guns?

Thanks!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

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many gun shops will buy complete collections
ask around

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 07:41 PM (geLO8)

58 @46 PI:

We had the same issue 10 years ago when my father passed. The local gun shops offered about 10% of the value on the entire collection, which was substantial.

I ended up opening an account on GB and selling individual items. If you set up the auction so the buyer pays the transfer fees and shipping, you can probably find a local FFL to deal with and get $25 per transfer, or thereabouts.

But selling individually will be much better than trying to do the bulk at one time.

Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 31, 2023 07:42 PM (L3byd)

59 A Very Happy and Healthy 2024 is my fervent wish, for the Weasel family, and all the extended AoS family, here.

Let us continue to have fun, and to enjoy our ballistic interests, and prevail over those who would oppress us.

And may cheap ammo, yet abound.

This, I pray.

Happy (almost) New Year, Horde!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 31, 2023 07:42 PM (e6UQI)

60 I like my P365. I can shoot it straight enough and it's small and light, not a pain to carry, and fires when I pull the trigger. The only thing I didn't like was the lack of a safety, so I got one with a safety. Tomorrow I'm going to take both of them canoeing.

Posted by: fd at December 31, 2023 07:42 PM (vFG9F)

61 Best way to sell a small collection is to find a medium size shop and work out a consignment deal, based on the shop getting a percentage, with the shop handling all the paperwork. This gives the shop an incentive to keep the selling price high and lets the seller avoid interacting with any questionable characters.
Avoid selling outright to pawn shops, which are legendary for paying low and then selling high.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 31, 2023 07:43 PM (yWvc2)

62 What is the best way to sell the guns?
Thanks!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:33 PM (HlyYF)

Check around places like Gunbroker, GunSpot and Simpson Ltd. for what a particular gun is going for either at auction or buy now.

Give you some idea of the worth as well as demand.

Good luck and don't be in rush to sell and avoid pawn shops and gun shops as they will low ball you as they have to mark up when they go to sell unless they make you a fair offer.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2023 07:43 PM (R/m4+)

63 Gun Broker is probably a good way to get a decent idea of how much a firearm is worth. Plug in the make, model and caliber and see what comparable firearms are selling for. Then sell on Gun Broker.

I've no idea of the fee structure or anything but, the reach of Gun Broker versus selling locally might be worth the trouble.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 07:37 PM

Thanks blake.

Does Gun Broker list a way to grade the guns? My buddy is clueless, and I am only slightly better.

I can at least take down the guns and examine the barrels, and anything else you guys advise. I assume high-quality photos would be important on Gun Broker.
(I have never shopped there, because I don't feel I am knowledgeable enough to NOT buy someone else's junk.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:44 PM (HlyYF)

64 A: No, no, a thousand times NO! There are endless stupid questions, and whether or not revolvers are still relevant is very clearly one of them one of them.

Folks, Weasel is introducing a linguistic concept known as "contrastive focus reduplication" to us.

Usually, you will see it used with a single word, such as Whoopi's "rape-rape" example, but here, Weasel is using it with a phrase, to emphasize that this is most definitely-definitely a stupid question.

Another question Weasel considers stupid is "Do I have enough ammo?".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 07:44 PM (a3Q+t)

65 I think the Sig P365 is awesome for its size. It can put a hole in a rattlesnake's neck, I know.

Also, I enjoyed that the toe of my stocking was heavy due to Santa leaving some ammo there.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 07:44 PM (BKOUD)

66 Pillage Idiot, the last sentence of the first paragraph should have gone into the second paragraph. Going to one of the auction outfits will usually get you more $$, but you have to have something that people want and time available before you get the $$ from the sale.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 07:44 PM (yRXSd)

67 52 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 31, 2023 07:37 PM

Happy New Year Perfessor!!

May I suggest at the next TXMoMe to stroll on over to either the pistol or rifle range? You know everyone there would be more than happen to increase your knowledge in that area.
Next thing you know you will be contributing content to this thread!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:45 PM (f0/sc)

68 >>> Can I get some Moron advice on selling guns?

I have a non-gun buddy that just inherited his father-in-law's collection. Probably worth around $10,000? Some old Savage 99s in good shape, Citori shotgun, Ithaca Model 100 shotgun, etc.
1.) What is the best venue to get an accurate appraisal? (In a medium-sized city.)
2.) What is the best way to sell the guns?
Thanks!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Was waiting to pick up a gun at a very small one man shop and somebody came in with a load of guns. The dealer basically explained he can broker them and targets a price midway between gunbroker dot com and bluebook. He puts them on consignment and lists them (presumably gunbroker) and gets his cut.
The guy had about ten guns and the dealer took on all but a couple of mystery 32s or whatever they were... he also turned away a couple of boxes of vintage ammo that others might have an interest in but he apparently thought they were trivial.

So... see if a local dealer will sell them on consignment and/or list them for you.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 31, 2023 07:45 PM (cOq4q)

69 I like my P365. I can shoot it straight enough and it's small and light, not a pain to carry, and fires when I pull the trigger. The only thing I didn't like was the lack of a safety, so I got one with a safety. Tomorrow I'm going to take both of them canoeing.
Posted by: fd at December 31, 2023 07:42 PM

You can backfit the one without a safety for about $49 in parts and 20-30 minutes of your time. Youtube is your friend.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 07:46 PM (a3Q+t)

70 The local gun shops offered about 10% of the value on the entire collection...

One of the saddest things for me is to go into Cabela's and see what was obviously someone's cherished collection that he worked on for years and know that the family got squat for it.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 07:46 PM (sNc8Y)

71 I bought an OIF Zippo downrange just before departing back in 2008.

I, being a Sig fanboy, wants to get his hands on the P365. That gun is bloody awesome. VERY compact, and in 9mm at that!

I am insanely busy at the moment but I am scheming for some range time in early February. As in February first-order-of-business.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 31, 2023 07:47 PM (8sMut)

72 60 Tomorrow I'm going to take both of them canoeing.

Posted by: fd at December 31, 2023 07:42 PM

Poor things, drowned before their time...(bows head)

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:48 PM (f0/sc)

73 As Ed L alluded to, I've had very good luck with consignment sales at my preferred local FFL.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 07:48 PM (V8he0)

74 I am happy to see the end of 2023.

All I want from 2024 is an unobstructed view on April 8, somewhere from my homestate of TX.

And unlimited ammo. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 31, 2023 07:49 PM (8sMut)

75 "What is the best way to sell the guns?

Thanks!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:33 PM (HlyYF)"

Is your SAIC really paying you for this?

Posted by: Glowie at December 31, 2023 07:49 PM (9tFkp)

76 The final gun thread of 2023. Good thing we all know better than to go outside and discharge our guns into the night air.
Posted by: Ben Had

People used to do that in Sugar Land. I recall hearing shots one New Year's and then a thud. A few months later, while repairing some duct work in the attic, I found a 9mm round that had made it through my shingles and mostly through the roof deck.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 07:50 PM (BKOUD)

77 Wow, thanks for all of the good advice everyone!

My buddy is fairly well off financially, so I don't think he needs to do a quick sale to raise cash.

There is a local gun shop that I really like and I have purchased a new gun from him cheaper than big box price so I know he is a straight shooter. I have noticed that he has guns on consignment for sale. I will definitely give him a call next year for his input.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:50 PM (HlyYF)

78 My ex-EDC Zippo is a B VI. I don't carry it anymore as it leaks and.. reasons.
I have a couple of others laying around. Dead due to broken lids.
I collect Ronson Jone handwarmers. Like a Zippo you leave smoldering in your pocket.
They also add a heavy oil to Zippo fluid these days and I can't stand the taste. They did it so the squirt isn't walkable by flame. It also ruins pipe loads and cigars. All I taste is the fuel.

Posted by: Reforger at December 31, 2023 07:51 PM (Hj0ZN)

79 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:44 PM (HlyYF)

My two cents on photos: Natural sunlight is the best light source you can use. Angle the shot if you can to eliminate the glare from the sun. If you have a bunch of pistols, consider getting a light box, especially if taking pictures of the firearms in an outdoor setting is not doable. My pictures of pistols all use a light box I ordered off of Amazon for about $60. It folds up into its own bag, so it doesn't clutter up the house too much.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 07:51 PM (yRXSd)

80 74 And unlimited ammo. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 31, 2023 07:49 PM

And maybe a red dot on one of the girls?

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:51 PM (f0/sc)

81 I can at least take down the guns and examine the barrels, and anything else you guys advise. I assume high-quality photos would be important on Gun Broker.
(I have never shopped there, because I don't feel I am knowledgeable enough to NOT buy someone else's junk.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 07:44 PM (HlyYF)
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I'd compare what you have to photos and descriptions on Gun Broker. I believe a bit of common sense will take you a long way. However, as has been mentioned, if you're uncomfortable going that route, consignment may be a good way to go. And yeah, checking bores is a good idea, whether you consign or use Gun Broker.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 07:52 PM (tT6L1)

82 May I suggest at the next TXMoMe to stroll on over to either the pistol or rifle range? You know everyone there would be more than happen to increase your knowledge in that area.
Next thing you know you will be contributing content to this thread!!
Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:45 PM (f0/sc)
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I've gladly taken advantage of the ranges at the TXMOME! This last time was amazing. The RSOs did a fantastic job of keeping things running smoothly.

I have some new local friends that can help me improve my knowledge as well...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 31, 2023 07:53 PM (BpYfr)

83 Gunfire starting early tonight.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 31, 2023 07:53 PM (I6hse)

84 Pillage Idiot - something I'd recommend to start is picking up a copy of a gun value guide (ex. Shooter's Bible published annually) to get a working idea of what the guns are worth. Condition can be subjective (like grading coins) but it's not a bad idea to have a ballpark value before things start selling.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 07:54 PM (JwHpX)

85 All I want from 2024 is an unobstructed view on April 8, somewhere from my homestate of TX.

And unlimited ammo. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Yes, we are right in the path.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 07:54 PM (BKOUD)

86 83 Gunfire starting early tonight.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 31, 2023 07:53 PM

I assume all the hogs are nervous. :-)

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:54 PM (f0/sc)

87 P365s are addicting. I got a good deal on a used standard one, and discovered that with the 12 round extension magazine, it fit my hand like it was made for me. Then my local big sporting goods store had a neck of a sale on the 365XL with a red dot sight factory-mounted. Then I found the SIG parts store...

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 31, 2023 07:56 PM (yWvc2)

88 Sorry I'm late. I was making (and eating) my world famous Ham Bone Potato Soup.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 07:56 PM (sSx7k)

89 Scuba_Dude, the hogs all decamped about 3 weeks ago. This is Tequila sunset.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 31, 2023 07:57 PM (I6hse)

90 Sorry I'm late. I was making (and eating) my world famous Ham Bone Potato Soup.

Posted by: GWB

I assume you brought enough for everyone?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 07:57 PM (BKOUD)

91 IME, P-365s are more accurate than they have a right to be.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 07:57 PM (a3Q+t)

92 I've gladly taken advantage of the ranges at the TXMOME! This last time was amazing. The RSOs did a fantastic job of keeping things running smoothly.

I have some new local friends that can help me improve my knowledge as well...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 31, 2023 07:53 PM (BpYfr)
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Well, next TX Mome we'll have to make sure we do an even better job of harassing, I mean, coaching, shooters when they're on the pistol line.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 07:58 PM (tT6L1)

93 And maybe a red dot on one of the girls?
Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 07:51 PM (f0/sc)

On the rifle. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 31, 2023 07:58 PM (8sMut)

94 I may have mentioned last week as we had early Christmas - got the most significant other a Ruger Security 380 (ez-cock). Marketed to compete with the S&W 380 EZ-Cock and folks with weaker grips. Somewhat larger than most 380s and supposedly has very mild recoil.
Yet to get her some dry fire practise and to the range, but soon...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 31, 2023 08:00 PM (cOq4q)

95 Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 07:54 PM (JwHpX)

Weasel, I was talking with Stinky's Daddy and a few of his buddies at Chantilly this weekend. Supposedly, the Blue Book of Gun Values will soon go to electronic publication only. The last paper edition will be here soon (if it isn't already). Supposedly, the hard copy version is getting just too thick to lug around.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 08:00 PM (yRXSd)

96 IME, P-365s are more accurate than they have a right to be.

Posted by: Duncanthrax

They are very accurate, and hold more ammo than seems possible, and despite their diminutive size I can hold one comfortably. All around winner.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 08:01 PM (BKOUD)

97 Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 08:00 PM (yRXSd)
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Yep. The comprehensive ones have thousands of guns listed.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:03 PM (JwHpX)

98 By the way, added a couple of pieces of equipment. The lovely Mrs. Blake got me a shot timer for Christmas which I plan to use at our steel range. I need to time my draw from concealment and get my motions smoothed out.

I also have a brand new Magneto Speed chronograph. As much as I wanted a Labradar, alas, where I shoot, I'd not only pick up my shots, I'd also pick up the shots of the people around me. Hence choosing the MagnetoSpeed.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 08:04 PM (tT6L1)

99 Why would you get clap from that guy?
Now, it would be embarrassing to get capped by him.

Or is "clapped" something I've never heard but everyone else has?

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:04 PM (sSx7k)

100 I sat at the kitchen table Wed. and cleaned 6 handguns. Felt safe as anything, none attacked me . Almost as much fun as shooting them.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 08:05 PM (NxC5+)

101 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 08:04 PM (tT6L1)
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The magneto speed is a good unit.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:06 PM (JwHpX)

102 As much as I wanted a Labradar, alas, where I shoot, I'd not only pick up my shots, I'd also pick up the shots of the people around me. Hence choosing the MagnetoSpeed.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 08:04 PM

Start your range session with a 16" Ruger SFAR and its muzzle brake. One mag, two tops, and you'll have the range to yourself.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 08:06 PM (a3Q+t)

103 Damn. Ugly evening out thar here in my AO. Rain, sleet, slow. The trifecta. Good night to be home and just follow the word-renowned gub thread.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 08:06 PM (V8he0)

104 Or is "clapped" something I've never heard but everyone else has?

I assumed it was supposed to be "capped" but what do I know.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 08:07 PM (sNc8Y)

105 snow

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 08:07 PM (V8he0)

106 Start your range session with a 16" Ruger SFAR and its muzzle brake. One mag, two tops, and you'll have the range to yourself.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 08:06 PM (a3Q+t)
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heh. My Savage chambered in .06 with a muzzle brake is a bit of a lane clearing device, even outdoors. The Noreen in .06 with a muzzle brake is even worse.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 08:08 PM (tT6L1)

107 IME, P-365s are more accurate than they have a right to be.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 07:57 PM (a3Q+t)

I agree. I was shooting cheap "target and practice" ammo through mine and was getting adequate, though not impressive, results. Then I switched to mid-priced "defense" loads and saw my groups shrink to something very satisfying.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 31, 2023 08:08 PM (yWvc2)

108 The three suspects, Jamere Justice Foster, 18, Z’quriah Le’Pearce Blackwell, 18, and John Walter Morrison, 28, were charged in connection with the killing of Greensboro Police Department Sgt. Phillip Dale Nix.

Can we have common sense apostrophe control?

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 31, 2023 08:08 PM (lwOKI)

109 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 08:04 PM (tT6L1)
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I almost always have the LabRadar with me in TX so just let me know if you would like to set it up.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:09 PM (JwHpX)

110 Evening.

Posted by: Robert at December 31, 2023 08:11 PM (xP9bU)

111 Going to call it a night and finish watching FOTR.

Thank you Weasel for putting this thread out there for us to romp around in each and every Sunday.

Wishing you and your family a Happy and Healthy New Year!!!

Ahhh, what the heck, HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 08:11 PM (f0/sc)

112 See you, Scoob. HNY!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (JwHpX)

113 I almost always have the LabRadar with me in TX so just let me know if you would like to set it up.
Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:09 PM (JwHpX)
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Well, thank you.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (tT6L1)

114 As much as I wanted a Labradar, alas, where I shoot, I'd not only pick up my shots, I'd also pick up the shots of the people around me.

Would using the airgun/archery trigger device instead of the sound-activated trigger fix that?

Hence choosing the MagnetoSpeed.

Does the MagnetoSpeed work with handguns? I've been lusting for a Labradar for a while but I'm budget-constrained for the foreseeable future. Also I see now that Garmin has a Doppler unit that's much smaller than the Labradar and has some very good reviews on Youtube.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (sNc8Y)

115 Shooting Illustrated: A Home Invasion That Failed
And it failed because the invadees had done their homework beforehand.

http://tinyurl.com/mtrhz6jj

Via Instapundit.

Posted by: Robert at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (xP9bU)

116 Reforged @ 78-
We used to burn 100 octane avgas in our Zippos. Every morning when we drained the fuel sumps we’d put several drops in our lighters. After a while we didn’t notice the taste.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (NxC5+)

117 Posted by: Reforger at December 31, 2023 07:51 PM (Hj0ZN)

If your Zippo needs repair, the company will do it for free. I have sent back several to have the hinge repaired. Never a charge.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (PWe8a)

118 The Adiga Armory guy makes a mistake during the point shooting bit, when he tells you to keep your focus on the front sight for faster recovery. If you're shifting your focus back to the sight every time, then refocusing on the target, that would seem terribly inefficient.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:13 PM (sSx7k)

119 Does the MagnetoSpeed work with handguns? I've been lusting for a Labradar for a while but I'm budget-constrained for the foreseeable future. Also I see now that Garmin has a Doppler unit that's much smaller than the Labradar and has some very good reviews on Youtube.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (sNc8Y)
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I've no idea if the MagnetoSpeed works with handguns. I've gone down the distance shooting rabbit hole and realized the need for accurate muzzle velocity readings, hence my purchase.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 08:14 PM (tT6L1)

120 Also, the fireworks have begun here in my AO. Just off and on at this point. I anticipate a nice show in a few hours.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:14 PM (sSx7k)

121 I assume you brought enough for everyone?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 07:57 PM (BKOUD)

If you have a dispenser on your USB slot, I can send you some.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:15 PM (sSx7k)

122 Q: Weasel, is it true there are no stupid questions?
I like the Demotivational poster answer:
No, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:16 PM (sSx7k)

123 If you're shifting your focus back to the sight every time, then refocusing on the target, that would seem terribly inefficient.

It would be. I think the idea is to keep your focus on the front sight all the way through the follow up. The USPSA Grand Master that I took a couple of classes from said that you should be able to follow the front sight and see it rise up out the notch and come back down into it. I admit that I can't do that consistently.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 08:16 PM (sNc8Y)

124 I think the magnetospeed will technically work with handguns, at least I seem to recall a discussion of that in the instructions as I skimmed over.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:16 PM (JwHpX)

125 111 Going to call it a night and finish watching FOTR.

Thank you Weasel for putting this thread out there for us to romp around in each and every Sunday.

Wishing you and your family a Happy and Healthy New Year!!!

Ahhh, what the heck, HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!!
Posted by: Scuba Dude at December 31, 2023 08:11 PM (f0/sc)

Since Scuba Dude is watching all extended versions of LOTR, we should not expect to hear from him again until...March, maybe.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 31, 2023 08:16 PM (8sMut)

126 Still have a functional Zippo that my late best friend gifted me for my birthday -29 years ago. RIP, Bill.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 08:17 PM (V8he0)

127 74 I am happy to see the end of 2023.

All I want from 2024 is an unobstructed view on April 8, somewhere from my homestate of TX.

And unlimited ammo. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 31, 2023 07:49 PM (8sMut)

All I want in 2024 is a clear sky on April 8th at my viewing location. Totality will be about 4 minutes there.

Posted by: Gref at December 31, 2023 08:17 PM (5fDan)

128 Howdy all!
I’m very disappointed in myself. I had 2 weeks off from work and never made it to the range. As punishment for that, I got sick for the last week.

Anyhoo, happy New Year and thank you Weasel and horde for all your efforts!

Posted by: Dag Nabbits, formerly 10 Gallon Hat at December 31, 2023 08:18 PM (rSc84)

129 Greetings from sunny Huatulco. No gun related activities other than the pistol packing guards at the airport, and two army guys with mean looking assault rifles at the beach. Carry on.

Posted by: Pod Hamp at December 31, 2023 08:19 PM (rL9TD)

130 Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (PWe8a)

They are in the bottom of some long forgotten box out here in my shop. I just use Bics now.

Posted by: Reforger at December 31, 2023 08:19 PM (9fF3m)

131 Howdy Dag Nabbits - good to see you!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:20 PM (JwHpX)

132 Amazing how many YouTube videos there are of vehicle full auto boar shooting there are. Some have to kill off 500 at least.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 08:20 PM (fwDg9)

133 Ah, the fireworks and gubshots have commenced here.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 08:23 PM (V8he0)

134 Skip, they need to shoot 500,000.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 08:23 PM (NxC5+)

135 Zippos? Buy price retail: $25 to $60. Sell price? A tiny fraction of the sell price. Ouch.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 31, 2023 08:25 PM (MgF59)

136 I am still way behind on all of my email correspondence, so many thanks for your continued patience.

And I am still catching up on the Gub Thread after traveling, so let me just take this moment to say thanks to you wonderful people for letting me be part of the finest, most welcoming ballistic community there is on the Intertubes. Also, special thanks to the orange hats who keep us safe, and a big Happy New Year to the master of the house, Weasel!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 31, 2023 08:26 PM (v23vE)

137 Deer cams are showing tons of deer at the farm.

Hopefully, my next "range" report will be venison in the fridge and freezer!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 08:27 PM (HlyYF)

138 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 31, 2023 08:26 PM (v23vE)
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Thank you, S'puppy!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:28 PM (JwHpX)

139 134 Skip, they need to shoot 500,000.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 08:23 PM

If we will chip in to re-barrel her rifle as needed, I am pretty sure Ben Had will agree to take care of the first 100,000.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 08:30 PM (HlyYF)

140 /sigh/
Massad Ayoob making me jealous again of getting one of those new Colt Pythons. I'd take 3 or 4", Santa. It would fit in my stocking next year.

Oh, and a lever action .357 to go with it? 'Cause that would be the best Santa.

I'll go to the range twice a month and shoot fundamentals, just like your elf Weasel says. I promise.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:30 PM (sSx7k)

141 Zippos? Buy price retail: $25 to $60. Sell price? A tiny fraction of the sell price. Ouch.

I know someone who can set you up on some Beanie Babies.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 08:30 PM (sNc8Y)

142 Oh, and Happy New Year to Weasel and all the Gun Thread Morons and 'Ettes!
Y'all help make the new year worth looking forward to!

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:31 PM (sSx7k)

143 If you own a zippo older than you are, you need to wake the fuck up and smell the coffee.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 31, 2023 08:35 PM (J3ryZ)

144 One of the things I do is pellet pistols. Lots of pellets. Rifles too but mostly pistols.
I have a 14 meter range set up with cardboard and sub flooring backing it in my shop. It'll stop a .22 WMR as I found out one day.
Anyway. I've been able to dona few things on the cheap wit it.
One, I learned how to shoot left handed, rifle and pistol.
Two, I learned how to ghost my sights. My focus is on the target, not the front sight. The sights are by training where they are supposed to be as my hand and eyes are locked.
Three was a side effect of one and two, I shoot with both eyes open.
I'm going to do my best to polute the neat TXMOME with my presence and I'll demonstrate.

Someone just shot something near my house.

Posted by: Reforger at December 31, 2023 08:35 PM (nMtUN)

145 *hoists a glass to FSJ*
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 07:24 PM (V8he0)

And to those we lost in 2023. RIP.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:36 PM (sSx7k)

146 So first a quick range report and then the beef I have with all (but one) of the gun youtube channels I follow:

So I did make it to the range yesterday. I had cinched down the front sight of my PSA Dagger and I wanted to confirm the bad news I'd seen before. I did 40 'draw + fire' reps and the damn front sight shook itself loose AGAIN. I had an RMA and shipping label from PSA so...not the end of the world. I shipped it back and I hope/expect it will get fixed. Pisses me off. Though, in some fairness, I do have over 2k rounds through this gun.

After that failure, I used my CZ 75 for some draw drills and noticed that the rear sight has drifted. Need to fix that but I only carried the 75 until I got home and could swap my carry for a P-07. I'm back to carrying that cuz I shoot that gun really well.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 31, 2023 08:36 PM (xcxpd)

147 Well, time to wander. Thanks again, Weasel! Hope the tyranny of the spread sheets ends soon!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 08:37 PM (tT6L1)

148 Thanks for another year of informative Gub Threads, Weasel!

Merry New Year to all!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 31, 2023 08:37 PM (HlyYF)

149 If you own a zippo older than you are, you need to wake the fuck up and smell the coffee.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 31, 2023 08:35 PM (J3ryZ)
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I have a bunch that are older than I am.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:38 PM (JwHpX)

150 Now for the beef...so I'm sure some of you know that Gaston Glock died last week. Dude was 94, had a hell of a ride in life, no regerts as the young folks say.

But despite the death of probably the 2nd most important gun inventor of the 20th century, only one fucking gun channel did a video commemorating his death. One. Out of like 50 fucking channels.

This is a personal beef, because I like and respect Glocks (even if I'm not carrying one at the moment). But that aside, it's like a car channel not covering the death of Henry Ford. It boggles my mind....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 31, 2023 08:39 PM (xcxpd)

151 Happy New Year Weasel and all the gun thread members.

I'm starting an exercise regimen next week to try to get back some strength and stamina. The last few years have taken a toll. Nothing extreme but when spring weather comes around I want to be steadier with my muzzleloading rifles.

Posted by: JTB at December 31, 2023 08:39 PM (7EjX1)

152 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at December 31, 2023 08:37 PM (tT6L1)
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Thanks blake. Me too!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:39 PM (JwHpX)

153 HAPPY GAY PRIDE CHRISTMASS TO EVERYONE FROM THE PEEPLE OF BRATTTLEBORO !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 31, 2023 08:40 PM (VYql4)

154 I wish everyone here a happy and prosperous New Year!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 31, 2023 07:37 PM (BpYfr)

I read that as preposterous, and thought it apropos given that it's an election year.
But I'll keep a positive outlook as long as the Gun Thread is here for me each week.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:40 PM (sSx7k)

155 Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 08:30 PM (sSx7k)

I saw 4" barreled Pythons w/ sale prices of $1299 at the Chantilly show this weekend. I hear that you can get discounts of about $400-500 off MSRP on "blemished" Pythons that flunked the polishing QC inspection. If you can live w/ a less than perfect satin stainless steel polishing job, this might be a way for you to save some $$ on that Python.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 08:40 PM (yRXSd)

156 Posted by: JTB at December 31, 2023 08:39 PM (7EjX1)
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Best of luck, JTB!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:41 PM (JwHpX)

157 All I want in 2024 is a clear sky on April 8th at my viewing location. Totality will be about 4 minutes there.
Posted by: Gref at December 31, 2023 08:17 PM (5fDan)

I have been looking forward to that day since July 1991, when I first heard about it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 31, 2023 08:44 PM (8sMut)

158 115 Shooting Illustrated: A Home Invasion That Failed
And it failed because the invadees had done their homework beforehand.

http://tinyurl.com/mtrhz6jj

Via Instapundit.
Posted by: Robert at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (xP9bU)

Relevant to my interests, thankee

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 31, 2023 08:44 PM (xcxpd)

159 Oh, and if you saw the total solar eclipse of March 7, 1970, know that the eclipse of April 8, 2024, is in the exact same saros. This eclipse will be an exeligmos to the 1970 eclipse.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 31, 2023 08:45 PM (8sMut)

160 Since there ain't no way I'm going to be able to stay up until midnight, I'm gonna go ahead and crack open the bottle of Knobel Bourbon that was delivered yesterday and sample me some. We shall see if it's as good as Mike Rowe says it is.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 31, 2023 08:46 PM (PWe8a)

161 What I find to be interesting is that I've only bought one Zippo in my adult live, but I now own nine Zippos dating back from the 40's. And I'm not a collector.

A few years back, a co-worker, supposedly my superior, gifted me with an engraved, monogrammed, Zippo as a gesture of gratitude. Very thoughtful.

All of them are in pristine shape.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 31, 2023 08:46 PM (J3ryZ)

162 I had seen the Mas Ayoub video before. Of course I already agreed with the premise. I carry a Smith 9mm but use revolvers around the house for their simple, reliable function.

Aside from their ease of use, what do DA revolvers offer these days besides more versatile reloading criteria, comfort, power, almost total reliability, and just being damn cool? And no one makes a 41 magnum semi-auto. That caliber alone is reason for revolvers to exist.

Posted by: JTB at December 31, 2023 08:49 PM (7EjX1)

163 Happy New Year!

Thank you, weasel for providing this forum for us to share information and encourage each other.

Fundamentals. Hmmmmm. Yep. Yessireebob. Practice with a purpose. Make it count.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 08:49 PM (O9Lr2)

164 So anything get sporty over in Europe yet?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 31, 2023 08:50 PM (KAi1n)

165 I have nothing to contribute, except immona buy more ammo.

And Happy new year, y'all.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Aspiring Codger at December 31, 2023 08:50 PM (T/Lqj)

166 Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 08:49 PM (O9Lr2)
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Howdy nurse! My pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 08:50 PM (JwHpX)

167 Now for the beef...so I'm sure some of you know that Gaston Glock died last week. Dude was 94, had a hell of a ride in life, no regerts as the young folks say.

But despite the death of probably the 2nd most important gun inventor of the 20th century, only one fucking gun channel did a video commemorating his death. One. Out of like 50 fucking channels.

This is a personal beef, because I like and respect Glocks (even if I'm not carrying one at the moment). But that aside, it's like a car channel not covering the death of Henry Ford. It boggles my mind....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 31, 2023 08:39 PM

So far, you and I (in an earlier comment) are the only ones to mention it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 08:53 PM (a3Q+t)

168 Evening, folken,

The blasted year of 2023 is almost over; has been for a while in England, for quite a while in Sydney, etc. May 2024 be better!

Tomorrow will be like a Saturday, in that I can sleep a little later, rise and exercise without being rushed, etc. And more than a few stores will be open, so it won't be like Xmas Day if I need something.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 08:55 PM (omVj0)

169 I watched the Pine resin video, mildly interesting. New Year's Eve is not really my thing and hasn't been for a couple decades.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 31, 2023 08:56 PM (sJHOI)

170 Only one question. Did Gaston Glock get buried in a plastic coffin?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 31, 2023 08:56 PM (0Ao06)

171 Someone just shot something near my house.
Posted by: Reforger at December 31, 2023 08:35 PM (nMtUN)

One of my favorite New Year’s Eve activities is to try to make out what is gun fire amidst the fireworks.. Cadence is a main determining factor.

Posted by: Javems at December 31, 2023 08:58 PM (8I4hW)

172 And no one makes a 41 magnum semi-auto. That caliber alone is reason for revolvers to exist.
Posted by: JTB at December 31, 2023 08:49 PM

Desert Eagle did for a short while. Most were a 'combo' kit w/.357, .41, and of course .44 Mag barrels. Very few .41 Mag units by themselves.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 08:58 PM (a3Q+t)

173 So far, you and I (in an earlier comment) are the only ones to mention it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 08:53 PM (a3Q+t)

I saw that. I know it was mentioned in previous threads through the week. I'm not really irritated by the gun thread but gun tubers are 'in the industry' so it really baffles me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 31, 2023 08:59 PM (xcxpd)

174 I mentioned this earlier on the blog, but when I was in the French Quarter on Saturday afternoon, I happened into a cigar shop (Crescent City Cigar Shop) around the corner from where I lived as a kid. They did not have much in the way of pipes, a few aromatic house blend tobaccos. I sniffed them and they were intriguing, and the owner pinched up a sample of one, stuffed it into a bag, and said, "My compliments."

I tried it this morning. For those of you who puff a pipe, when I say it was like Captain Black Original (the white pouch), you'll know what I mean: mild, easy burning, with a room note something like root beer, but not too heavy.

As for cigars, the owner and two friends were puffing away. The smoke and fug in that room were *rough*. But I need to go back and buy something!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:01 PM (omVj0)

175 Apparently the Glock fanbois amongst us don't have the deep respect that 1911ers have for JMB. Sad.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 09:02 PM (a3Q+t)

176 Aside from their ease of use, what do DA revolvers offer these days besides more versatile reloading criteria, comfort, power, almost total reliability, and just being damn cool? And no one makes a 41 magnum semi-auto. That caliber alone is reason for revolvers to exist.
Posted by: JTB at December 31, 2023

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A tiny sneaking thought in my mind still tells me I need a Colt Single Action Army clone: blued, with a 7.5" barrel and black grips. The little sneaking thought is not set on .45 Colt, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:03 PM (omVj0)

177 Enjoyed the deadly terrifying toxic frog video. They must be a lot of "fun" to study!

Was interested in the Uranus video, but quit watching immediately, partly because of the narrator's poofter soy voice, but mostly because of the pronunciation. Why does anyone think it's less teen boy snicker-worthy to say "urine-us" than "your anus"?

Posted by: mindful webworker - sniggering at December 31, 2023 09:03 PM (HbfzH)

178 Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 08:53 PM (a3Q+t)

If a typical YouTube channel is a small or solo operation, I'm willing to cut some slack due to 1) the holiday season and 2) the time required to produce a video and air it. I'd also argue that Glocks made quality semi-auto pistols affordable to the masses. Before Glock's arrival on the scene, your semi-auto pistol available to the masses was something like a Jimenez or Raven "Saturday Night Special" that that was as reliable as a Ford Pinto or Chevy Chevette.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 09:03 PM (yRXSd)

179 I'm not really irritated by the gun thread

What a relief. We'll all sleep better tonight. Sheesh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 09:04 PM (V8he0)

180 At the range again this week for a 22lr session. the previous outing went well once I slowed down and applied the trigger control and focus we discuss here all the time. For this week I used an older Taurus Tracker with 6.5" barrel shooting double action. The trigger is smooth but rather long. Nothing trains trigger pull like a DA revolver. (I get spoiled by the singe action triggers on my Rugers.) The results were gratifying but I was tired after just an hour session. That kind of concentration can wear a guy out. Still, it was worth the effort and proves the efficacy of good practice.

Posted by: JTB at December 31, 2023 09:04 PM (7EjX1)

181 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:03 PM (omVj0)

.357 Magnum/.38 Special?

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 09:08 PM (yRXSd)

182 got the most significant other a Ruger Security 380 (ez-cock)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 31, 2023 08:00 PM (cOq4q)

Ummm, if you got more than one SO, buying either one a gun might be a bad investment........

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 09:09 PM (sSx7k)

183 I've never liked Glocks.

Posted by: Reforger at December 31, 2023 09:09 PM (jBxoJ)

184 No range report. I passed up the monthly aspirin shoot to do our late Christmas this morning, and it was well worth it.
And now it’s New Year’s Eve!
Good job by Weasel in the past year, and all the commenters.
I’m not even going to make predictions, because I’m still in a good mood.
Best to you all!

Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:09 PM (4WoWo)

185 Just heard a string of shots, which set the neighbor's dog to barking. He never brings the poor mutt into the house.

And the Knobel small batch was not bad at all.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 31, 2023 09:09 PM (PWe8a)

186 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023
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.357 Magnum/.38 Special?
Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023

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Sure, why not?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:10 PM (omVj0)

187 176 ... "A tiny sneaking thought in my mind still tells me I need a Colt Single Action Army clone: blued, with a 7.5" barrel and black grips. The little sneaking thought is not set on .45 Colt, though."

Hi Wolfus,

Give in to that sneaking thought. The closest I come to a Colt SA Army is a stainless Ruger New Vaquero. I use it mostly with BP cartridges. But single action revolvers are my favorite handguns. If you aren't sold on a 45 Colt, there are plenty of Colt clones in 357.

BTW, I prefer longer barrel revolvers as a rule. They balance better for me and handle recoil better.

Posted by: JTB at December 31, 2023 09:13 PM (7EjX1)

188 A tiny sneaking thought in my mind still tells me I need a Colt Single Action Army clone

Well if there's on thing I've learned, it's to always listen to the voices in my head at least when they say that I should buy a gun. Uberti makes a nice SAA clone. The Ruger Vaquero is basically the more modern Blackhawk mechanical design disguised to look like a SAA externally.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 09:13 PM (sNc8Y)

189 Some fireworks gunfire going off here sporadically

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 09:14 PM (fwDg9)

190 Happy New Year, fellow gun nuts!

Too busy moving to do any shooty stuff. And I even forgot my 3rd gun-iversary, which was December 1.

My goal for 2024 is to get my SC CWP and *start carrying*. There is an outdoor training range that offers CWP and other classes close to SiD (Half) Acres.

The other goal as mentioned last week is to buy a Highway Patrolman.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 31, 2023 09:15 PM (PcoR0)

191 I've never liked Glocks.

You don't have to like them to admit that it's a great design that just plain works.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 09:16 PM (sNc8Y)

192
This is a test.

If this was a real comment, you would be receiving free ammunition for a year.

But this is only a test.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 31, 2023 09:16 PM (MoZTd)

193 Just getting back from getting a M18 and an XDm Elite 9
So next year's gonna be AT LEAST that good...

Posted by: MAxIE at December 31, 2023 09:16 PM (twxj3)

194 Posted by: Robert at December 31, 2023 08:12 PM (xP9bU)

Excellent outcome. I bet Dave had focused on fundamentals.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 09:17 PM (sSx7k)

195 Jimenez or Raven "Saturday Night Special" that that was as reliable as a Ford Pinto or Chevy Chevette.
Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 09:03 PM (yRXSd)

I have a few Sterlings. .22, .25 and .380.
I haven't even looked at them in 20 years since I set up the safes.
I'm actually not even sure what all is in that particular safe.
There might even be a late 1980's Glock 17 in there...
I'm too lazy to unpile the shit stacked in front of it.

Posted by: Reforger at December 31, 2023 09:17 PM (jBxoJ)

196 Some fireworks gunfire going off here sporadically
Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023

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Here too. And Stirling, the big black cat, is spooked just as he was last year on this date. He's always seemed a very confident kitten and cat. But these crumps and bangs, though none are close by, have sent him to crouch under the bed and wait for it all to stop.

Dagny the Siberian? She is dozing on the hassock by the window. Unaffected and unconcerned.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:18 PM (omVj0)

197 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:10 PM (omVj0)

For me at least, .357 Magnum and .38 Special are usually cheaper per round and easier to source than .45 Colt.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 09:18 PM (yRXSd)

198 I want to wish Presdent Obama a happy new Yeer !!! We love you and miss you !!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 31, 2023 09:18 PM (VYql4)

199 Cue the NYE fireworks/gunfire in the San Fernando valley eh.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 31, 2023 09:19 PM (XiwRJ)

200 OK, 9:20 thank you time!

Thank you all! Happy New Year!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:20 PM (JwHpX)

201 Lucy the Fink hasn't been around a lot of loud bangs. Here on the beach it gets really REALLY crazy and loud, but up until recently, we were in the basement where it was very quiet in comparison to up here. I hope she's not too frightened when things get all spoldey like they will.

I'll be in bed by 930.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 09:20 PM (eY0nO)

202 Happy New Year!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:21 PM (XtkZj)

203 Thanks for another great year of gun threads, Weasel. Happy New Year to you and yours.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 09:21 PM (sNc8Y)

204 Wanted to wish everyone a happy new Year.

Thx Weasel

Posted by: whig at December 31, 2023 09:21 PM (8IKKJ)

205
Fireworks and gunfire nearby. The kennel dogs have been put up and the volume on the radio down there turned up. Diana has been brought up to the house. The puppies can't go out. We're nearby to reassure them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 31, 2023 09:22 PM (MoZTd)

206 191 I've never liked Glocks.

You don't have to like them to admit that it's a great design that just plain works.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 09:16 PM (sNc8Y)

Lots of guns are great designs and just plain work.

Like the 1911

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:22 PM (XtkZj)

207 Posted by: Reforger at December 31, 2023 09:17 PM (jBxoJ)

I'm hearing that early Glock 17s are now becoming collector's items. Heck, Glock itself even issued a "commemorative edition" of the original Glock 17 last year to mark the 40th anniversary of its introduction.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 09:22 PM (yRXSd)

208 In general, which ammo is less expensive, .357, .38, or .45 Long Colt? Are they all equally hard to get?

As far as a semi-auto, I keep thinking of the Makarov in either the 9x18mm Makarov round, or the .380. I'm not picky. I love the look of the pistol, and from what I've read they are quite reliable.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:22 PM (omVj0)

209 BTW, we all went down to Sig in Epping, NH, yesterday. Huge store, museum , indoor range.
I know Weasel and Scoobs and others have done training there.
DILIT is already looking at the “Rose” P365. SIG has a heck of a marketing crew.

Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:23 PM (4WoWo)

210 And I don't understand the Glock hate. If you don't like them, don't buy them. For some folks, they work very very well. They are not particularly expensive, they are easy to maintain, and parts are plentiful.

I rather like my G42. It's quite small and very easy to conceal and I can shoot it well.

I like the Ronin better, but it's quite a bit bigger, so not as comfortable to conceal and access.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 09:24 PM (eY0nO)

211 Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:20 PM (JwHpX)

Thanks for hosting a year's worth of threads, Weasel! Looking forward to next year's.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 09:24 PM (yRXSd)

212 Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 08:40 PM (yRXSd)

Heh. Even at $400 off, I still need another jar's worth of pennies. But I'm working on it.

(Along with the nickels I'm saving for that M1.)

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 09:24 PM (sSx7k)

213 Here's a pine tree gum collection to turpentine video from about 80 years ago. May not be safe for work nowadays. Because "Dixie" is one of the background tunes, for example. I stumbled across this on utoob a week ago. The same basic techniques and tools today and 80 years ago (and probably 200 to 300 years ago).

http://tinyurl.com/3utwk2yd

Posted by: Gref at December 31, 2023 09:24 PM (5fDan)

214 Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:23 PM (4WoWo)
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Yep. It's a very comprehensive facility!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:24 PM (JwHpX)

215 Ayoob should learn his lines.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 09:26 PM (HO/bY)

216 I tried it this morning. For those of you who puff a pipe, when I say it was like Captain Black Original (the white pouch), you'll know what I mean: mild, easy burning, with a room note something like root beer, but not too heavy.
As for cigars, the owner and two friends were puffing away. The smoke and fug in that room were *rough*. But I need to go back and buy something!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:01 PM (omVj0)

Been there, it's a nice shop. Nothing fancy but good folks who like good tobaccy. You can shop, relax, light up and enjoy the people passing by.

Good on you Wolfus!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2023 09:26 PM (R/m4+)

217 And I don't understand the Glock hate.

Ditto. A reliable, serviceable platform at a good price point.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 09:26 PM (V8he0)

218 So far, you and I (in an earlier comment) are the only ones to mention it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 08:53 PM (a3Q+t)

Well, honestly, when I saw it this week, I had to admit I thought he was already in a mausoleum somewhere.

But I only saw it mentioned a couple of places.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 09:27 PM (sSx7k)

219 Ed L @ 207-
I have an original G17 in the tupperware tub. It lives in the safe, because there are others to shoot.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 09:27 PM (NxC5+)

220 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:22 PM (omVj0)

.38 Special is the cheapest, followed by .357 Magnum. These are the most common revolver calibers. Therefore, they are (usually) easier to find. .45 Colt you'll need to stock up on. During the great ammo crisis of 2020-22, .45 Colt was hard to find in the wilds of your LGS. You had to order it online if it was in stock at places like SG Ammo or Lucky Gunner.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 09:28 PM (yRXSd)

221 Talk about comprehensive, Weasel, not only a whole wall of suppressors, but a machine that took your picture, your fingerprints and sent everything off to the ATF!
I almost came home a thousand bucks lighter. 9 mm can. Gotta have.

Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:28 PM (4WoWo)

222 And I don't understand the Glock hate.

I think for some people it's kind of like identification and affiliation with "their" sports team or their car brand. "Go Packers, f*ck da Bears."

Posted by: Oddbob at December 31, 2023 09:30 PM (sNc8Y)

223
Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:28 PM (4WoWo)
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Last time I was there they had just opened the store.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:30 PM (JwHpX)

224 Been there, it's a nice shop. Nothing fancy but good folks who like good tobaccy. You can shop, relax, light up and enjoy the people passing by.

Good on you Wolfus!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2023

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I told the smokers it was nice to see people acting like grownups -- by which I meant, taking responsibility for their own choices and proceeding to enjoy them.

If I brought my pipe there when cigar aficionados are puffing, though, the smoke from my pipe would be lost in the clouds.

The odd thing, as I said, is that it is located literally a block from my old front gate.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:30 PM (omVj0)

225 My Zippo is 1996.
Daughter#1 of Diogenes bought it for me after I retired and had my initials and the VII Corps crest put on it.
I love.it.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 09:30 PM (W/lyH)

226 Posted by: screaming in digital at December 31, 2023 09:15 PM (PcoR0)

SiD, have you scouted out local gun shows? That might be your best bet to check out any potential purchases in your hands before plunking down your $$. Your LGS or local pawn shops might also be worth a look.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 09:31 PM (yRXSd)

227 Happy New Year, folks! May all of your shots find the X-ring of life!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 31, 2023 09:32 PM (a3Q+t)

228 I have an original G17 in the tupperware tub. It lives in the safe, because there are others to shoot.

I gifted mine to my nephew. He's a big dude and just loves the way it fits in his paws. I told him to never part with it. So far, so good.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 09:32 PM (V8he0)

229 Oh, Zippos! Almost forgot. Back when I smoked I picked up a nice one with my Puking Buzzards 101 ABN crest on it. Ft. Benning,1971.
Gosh, I feel elderly.

Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:33 PM (4WoWo)

230 It's only 8:29 here in LaLouisiana and the fireworks are going off all around me!!! Sooo Happy Happy New Year !!!!🍾🍾

Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at December 31, 2023 09:35 PM (wz3IE)

231 I don't hate Glocks. I just enjoy picking on people that own them.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:36 PM (XtkZj)

232 Anyone else watching the Twilight Zone Marathon?

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:36 PM (JwHpX)

233 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 31, 2023 09:22 PM (omVj0)

Think about the source of the ammo you might put through that Makarov (or copy thereof). If the supply of cheap surplus Russian ammo dries up, .380 ACP might be the better choice over the long term. .380 ACP will be around for the long haul. 9mm Makarov (at least cheap 9mm Makarov) might not.

Posted by: Ed L at December 31, 2023 09:36 PM (yRXSd)

234 Happy New Year to Weasel and various and sundry morons as ye may be! My prayer is this. May It please GOD to change the hearts of our leaders or drive them out. If that is not His will, may He shorten the time until He wraps all this up. Amen and amen.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 09:37 PM (NxC5+)

235 Oh, Zippos! Almost forgot. Back when I smoked I picked up a nice one with my Puking Buzzards 101 ABN crest on it. Ft. Benning,1971.
Gosh, I feel elderly.
Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:33 PM (4WoWo)

One of the geezers I team up with for golf is an old 101st guy. Was with them in Vietnam in 68-69. He's got his 80th coming up. He also has an 18 handicap.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 09:37 PM (W/lyH)

236 And I don't understand the Glock hate.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 09:24 PM (eY0nO)

I think it's like vegans. Not around here, but some places there are Glock fanbois who are just... annoying. Lots of narrow-minded people in the world, even among shooters, sadly.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 09:37 PM (sSx7k)

237 231 I don't hate Glocks. I just enjoy picking on people that own them.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Until you mouth off to someone at the wrong time and get pegged in the ass.

I shoot a couple of my other pistols far better than I shoot my Glocks. But, they are good, reliable pistols that don't need to be babied.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 09:39 PM (RgNUc)

238 So what you're saying is Glock owners are more like to be Vegan?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:39 PM (XtkZj)

239 Until you mouth off to someone at the wrong time and get pegged in the ass.

I shoot a couple of my other pistols far better than I shoot my Glocks. But, they are good, reliable pistols that don't need to be babied.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 09:39 PM (RgNUc)

Probably. lol.

For me, I owned one and just didn't like the grip at all. Otherwise a nice gun.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:41 PM (XtkZj)

240 I think the chances of a vegan owning any sort of gun are quite low.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 09:41 PM (RgNUc)

241 240 I think the chances of a vegan owning any sort of gun are quite low.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 09:41 PM (RgNUc

Yeah, celery doesn't move so no need to shoot it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:42 PM (XtkZj)

242 Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:39 PM (XtkZj)

LOL! That is NOT what I said!
(Don't shoot me Nurse.)

Nurse, however, is the one that implied they're all gay.
"and get pegged in the ass."
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 09:39 PM (RgNUc)

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 09:42 PM (sSx7k)

243 Diog, those are the old guys you take the sandies and greenies, etc from, right?
I quit golf when I discovered that I wasn’t ever going to better at it, and it was embarrassing how high my handicap was.

Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:43 PM (4WoWo)

244 Thanks fo hosting, Weasel, and see you next year!

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 31, 2023 09:43 PM (PWe8a)

245 I know this guy who sold his G19 Gen 4 with a Wilson Combat barrel and Overwatch trigger. Must have been a vegan, ja?

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 09:44 PM (NxC5+)

246 245 I know this guy who sold his G19 Gen 4 with a Wilson Combat barrel and Overwatch trigger. Must have been a vegan, ja?
Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 09:44 PM (NxC5+)

Sounds Vegan to me.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:44 PM (XtkZj)

247 No ass-pegging on the Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:46 PM (JwHpX)

248 247 No ass-pegging on the Gun Thread!
Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:46 PM (JwHpX

Tell the Vegans!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:47 PM (XtkZj)

249 I have my Dad’s Zippo he carried throughout WWII and for another 20 years afterwords. It had an Australian silver coin soldiered on one side but it’s almost completely worn away now. It’s in two pieces and the hinge is broken. Still might try and get it repaired.

Posted by: Javems at December 31, 2023 09:49 PM (8I4hW)

250 Posted by: Javems at December 31, 2023 09:49 PM (8I4hW)
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Call Zippo and tell them the story. They'll fix it!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:49 PM (JwHpX)

251 Diog, those are the old guys you take the sandies and greenies, etc from, right?
I quit golf when I discovered that I wasn’t ever going to better at it, and it was embarrassing how high my handicap was.
Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:43 PM (4WoWo)
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I will admit to taking a few bucks from my friend, but he has returned the favor so we're about even.
These old guys do one thing right. They hit it straight. Not far, but they keep it in the fairway.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 09:49 PM (W/lyH)

252 AlaBama @ 246-
I shot that G19Gen4 the same day I broke in a new SA35. If I had to reach for a pistol in a bad situation it would be that Glock, because I’m still evaluating the SA35.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 09:49 PM (NxC5+)

253 buy a Highway Patrolman.
Posted by: screaming in digital

Make sure the Highway Patrolman is single!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 09:49 PM (YEiaF)

254 Anyone else watching the Twilight Zone Marathon?
Posted by: Weasel
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No, because I don't have any tv service, but I have the complete set on dvd.

Last time I watched "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street" my block had a power outage almost immediately after....

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 31, 2023 09:50 PM (PcoR0)

255 252 AlaBama @ 246-
I shot that G19Gen4 the same day I broke in a new SA35. If I had to reach for a pistol in a bad situation it would be that Glock, because I’m still evaluating the SA35.
Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 09:49 PM (NxC5+)

Really? That SA35 makes me want another gun. So nice.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 31, 2023 09:52 PM (XtkZj)

256 Posted by: screaming in digital at December 31, 2023 09:50 PM (PcoR0)
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Yikes!
I have the series on DVD too, but rarely watch them. I'm watching one episode now I've never seen before!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:53 PM (JwHpX)

257 And, SiD, glad you got moved in successfully.
You're getting through a lot in the last year plus. It's good to see it working out.

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 09:53 PM (sSx7k)

258 Last time I watched "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street" my block had a power outage almost immediately after....
Posted by: screaming in digital

** whistles the theme to The X-Files

Posted by: Adriane the Sci Fi Critic . . . at December 31, 2023 09:55 PM (4Winp)

259 Call Zippo and tell them the story. They'll fix it!
Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:49 PM (JwHpX)

Thanks Weasel. Have to put that on my list

Posted by: Javems at December 31, 2023 09:55 PM (8I4hW)

260 ONT is up. Wishing you all a very Happy New Year!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:56 PM (JwHpX)

261 They also add a heavy oil to Zippo fluid these days

In the golden age, both Ronson and Red Devil sold seasonal blends of lighter fluid, to behave in different weather (since naphtha is an extremely volatile distillate). My dad worked nights at a refinery's "sales" (shipping) department and had access to every product they made, including some you really should not have been handling. He'd make up his own blends, to get that lazy fat flame pipe smokers cherish.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 31, 2023 09:56 PM (FCs/J)

262 Make sure the Highway Patrolman is single!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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With at least a six inch barrel.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 31, 2023 09:57 PM (PcoR0)

263 Well, tomorrow DILIT will be learning how to draw from her new DiSantis holster. She’ll also be sporting a new waxed canvas range bag that arrived with lots of goodies.
Doesn’t look like a typical “shoot me first” range bag. Rather sporty.

Posted by: RI Red at December 31, 2023 09:58 PM (4WoWo)

264 Happy New Year, all!

Posted by: GWB at December 31, 2023 09:58 PM (sSx7k)

265 ONT is up. Wishing you all a very Happy New Year!
Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 09:56 PM (JwHpX)

Goodnight, and Happy New Year! Y'all are good people.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Aspiring Codger at December 31, 2023 09:59 PM (T/Lqj)

266 And, SiD, glad you got moved in successfully.
You're getting through a lot in the last year plus. It's good to see it working out.
Posted by: GWB
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Thank you. I'm exhausted at the moment. But I'm really happy about the house, and learning to roll with things better than I used to.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 31, 2023 10:01 PM (PcoR0)

267 Posted by: screaming in digital at December 31, 2023 10:01 PM (PcoR0)
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Happy to hear things are going well for you, SiD!

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2023 10:08 PM (JwHpX)

268 Dang! that was a lotta video to watch!!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 31, 2023 10:37 PM (NRySB)

269 For the record, 2023! is a big ass number.

Posted by: Eric at January 01, 2024 12:56 AM (vbo7d)

270 I guess I was glad to see Wolf makes some ammo that isn't shot. I have shot every version of Wolf that I could find (7.62x39) through my AR and VZ58. None of it would consistently group below 3" at 100 yards, usually 4" or more. I had about given up on a BCA AR upper after shooting every steel case ammon could find through it, deciding it was a bad barrel since some people report getting 1 1/2" groups. A friend gave me a box of Belom. Not expecting much,I put a scope on the upper and sighted it in well enough to get it on paper at 100 yards. A 5 shot group of steel case came in at the expected 4" or so. I then shot two consecutive 5 shot groups with the Belom of .69 and .93 moa. No more steel case ammo for me!

Posted by: madmike at January 01, 2024 10:02 AM (EXdsF)

271 Shot... shit... @#$&%# spell mangler!

Posted by: madmike at January 01, 2024 10:05 AM (EXdsF)

272 Love my Zippos. I’m using the butane inserts for my cigars. A word of caution, avoid regular butane and fill with premium butane such as Vector, etc. to avoid clogging. Amazon has a great selection of Zippos and inserts.

Posted by: Hepcap at January 01, 2024 12:14 PM (XY7u6)

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