Food Thread: Don't Ham It Up, This Is A Serious Place

That's the sort of thing I think about when I think about ham. But there is a vast world of holiday ham about which I know almost nothing! I am not suggesting that I don't eat a slice of traditional baked ham when offered, but it isn't in the rotation. I remember when the spiral-sliced hams came into vogue...that was fun to eat at Christmas parties, but again; it simply never entered the, "What should we make this week" discussion.

Why do I have ham on the brain? Well, my local supermarket has about 25 feet of refrigerator case filled with hams at a respectably reasonable price. The last time I had a whole ham in my refrigerator was about 30 years ago, and it was from a wild pig, and it was stupendous. I know I won't be getting something that good, but it is tempting...

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I promise I didn't make this up, and as far as I can tell it is the genuine article...NBCNews.com, and not a spoof!

Why Americans are going hungry despite a strong economy

By traditional measures of the economy, where unemployment has been at historic lows and wages have been rising, more Americans should be prospering and the need for help with basic necessities like food should be easing after surging during the pandemic.
But those on the front lines of feeding the hungry say they are seeing the opposite. Instead, they say a growing number of Americans have been seeking out help from food banks and government food programs over the past year amid a perfect storm of persistently rising costs and shrinking programs to help households cope with these growing expenses

As is their wont, they lead with a sob story...a woman whose $2,400/month budget is insufficient to feed a family of seven. What? That's $80/day, and unless she is serving them high-end stuff, that should be plenty!

But the real issue is of course the careful, willful ignorance of what inflation is. Two years of high inflation trumps the lagging rise in wages. And read a few paragraphs in and you will discover that social programs are being cut. On what planet? They don't specify, but the multi-billion dollar boondoggle of government spending on every social program in America apparently is just a figment of our fevered right-wing-Nazi-white-supremacist imaginations.

This is just pure, unadulterated propaganda, and it isn't even done well.

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I guess this is interesting, but really, if red wine gives you a headache...don't drink it. Or am I missing something? My new internist thinks I am an alcoholic*, so it is entirely possible that my thought processes when it comes to alcohol are warped.

Study Reveals Unlikely Culprits of Red Wine Headaches

*Not really, but she thinks I drink too much. She is also extremely disappointed that my liver function is perfect and the other indicators of excessive drinking (certain vitamin deficiencies) are nowhere to be found. When she finished my exam and said "I'll see you next year," I couldn't resist saying, "Sure! We can have a beer!"

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What's that? You want to make fun of Sous Vide? Yeah...I thought so. That is a very nicely cooked filet roast.

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My new hobby is becoming a bit of a pain in the ass. Now I have to seek out better rice, better seaweed, and definitely better pickled ginger, since the stuff I bought on Amazon was horrid. There is a huge Japanese supermarket about 30 minutes from here, and I got a bunch of really good stuff from there a few weeks ago. But still, my technique is mediocre. Those sushi chefs really are skilled!

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80% white flour and 20% rye flour. 24 hour cold rise, then handle it as usual once it warms up. Damn...it is delicious, and I think some of that flavor is the new starter I got from a fine restaurant's chef, who took pity on me when I begged for his starter. The fun part of this was I didn't knead it much at all. I just stretched it a bit after the cold fermentation.

I think I may have been overthinking this whole Sourdough Baking Is HARD! thing.

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The oyster imperative remains in effect, and send pork rib roasts with the pork belly attached, carrots that don't taste like stalky chalk (and speaking of vegetables; were all of our snap peas stolen by space aliens?), garlic...lots of garlic! (and basil! My basil did not do well this year!), well-marbled hanger steaks and elk chops to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

And don't think that the rest of you are off the hook with maple syrup and French Toast: so why don't you put maple syrup on your steaks and chops and chicken?

And yes, I used to demand fancy bourbon, but let's face it, $1,200 for a bottle of bourbon is just stupid, insulting, and a ghastly affront to most people's palates and wallets. I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2023 04:01 PM (fwDg9)

2 Making pizza much later, trying to rotate my food schedule later for all nights this week, maybe week after too.

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2023 04:02 PM (fwDg9)

3 The bacon package is right.

Also, real Americans save their bacon grease.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 04:03 PM (llON8)

4 Mmmmm. Red beef.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 17, 2023 04:05 PM (di6C2)

5 But at least breakfast will not be a rush, sausages and blueberry pancakes tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2023 04:06 PM (fwDg9)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2023 04:07 PM (T4tVD)

7 I've ordered the smallest pre-sliced ham from New Braunfels for the past few Easters (and sometimes Christmas, including this year) as it's 2 to 2 1/2 pounds, and it's true that two people and a (full-size) ham is a really fcking long time.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 04:07 PM (llON8)

8 3 The bacon package is right.

Also, real Americans save their bacon grease.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 04:03 PM (llON

My daughter is deciding if she can make me allergy-free croissants with bacon grease. I told her that sounds like a fine experiment b/c it's a solid fat that melts, just like butter, and the flavor is bound to be good! I'll let you know how that goes b/c it's on her list to make this week...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 17, 2023 04:07 PM (exHjb)

9 CBD, I bet you used a heat gun on that roast.

Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 04:08 PM (PweV5)

10 Supermarket Employee here, working in a Blue- to No-Collar Environment.
Bring on the questions about pricing, supply, etc.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:09 PM (43xH1)

11 My Week In Food

Made chili yesterday- doubled up on the red beans. Yes, I put beans in my chili*. It was good. I made some Jiffy cornbread and added an 8oz can of sweet corn to the mix. Came out good.

Found some nice tenderloin steaks on sale, about $5/lb, so looking forward to that.

Also the grocer had 8ct boxes of cinnamon streusel biscotti on clearance for $1.25 each, normally $4.99, so I hit them hard on that.

OK

*Fight me

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 04:09 PM (geLO8)

12 >>> 8
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My daughter is deciding if she can make me allergy-free croissants with bacon grease. I told her that sounds like a fine experiment b/c it's a solid fat that melts, just like butter, and the flavor is bound to be good! I'll let you know how that goes b/c it's on her list to make this week...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 17, 2023 04:07 PM (exHjb)

That sounds really good!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 04:10 PM (llON8)

13 I like ham. I like country ham too.

I like roast beef. Sour dough bread sucks as far as bread goes.

The only people going hangry in this country deserve to be hangry.

Oh look, Martini Time! One olive only please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 17, 2023 04:10 PM (R/m4+)

14 All of your foods look like they belong in a still life, CBD. Beautiful! Museum quality!

Maybe with a pheasant (peasant?) hanging in the larder and a dog looking in eagerly.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 17, 2023 04:11 PM (brrec)

15 Fuck Ms Estrada and her 7 mouths to feed. Not my problem. Maybe not have 5 (6?) kids with some loser(s)? I’m sick and tired of having to pay for able-bodied adults who made terrible decisions. You and your kids can starve for all I care.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (lb2PL)

16 I'll start: Quality control has gone down the shitter. Help has been almost impossible to get so quality has plummeted, including such basic things as making sure a package marked as having say 12 ounces in it, actually has something like 12 ounces in it.
Today I felt a difference in an individually bagged product and weighed them. 9oz nominal, they were anywhere from 8.5 to 11oz. A win for the consumer in this case, but I've found ranges of up to 4oz in a nominal 14 oz package.
That is a very serious QC issue.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (43xH1)

17 That is a very nicely cooked filet roast.

No, thanks. I can hear it mooing from here.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (V8he0)

18 Maybe with a pheasant (peasant?) hanging in the larder and a dog looking in eagerly.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 17, 2023 04:11 PM (brrec)

You hang your peasants in the larder?

Air aged?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (di6C2)

19 A wonderful selection of topics today, CBD.
The ham is similar to the classic Smithfield ham, cured and dry. Slice very thin for ham biscuits.
The beef is rare as intended.
The question of the rice for sushi is one I think I have a bead on. Slightly undercook enriched white rice it will come out sticky, not loose. Or overcook it, I forget which. Maybe some luck is involved... I've seen previously cook sticky rice where all you do is heat it up in the microwave.
The new "science" says no amount of alcohol is safe to consume. OK "scientists". Your concern is duly noted.
Reminds me, I need to pick out a nice pinot for tonight...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (MeG8a)

20 My local upper scale grocery store is offering pumpkin brioche bread, and it's fabulous toasted. I bet it would make bangin' French Toast too.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (brrec)

21 CBD, I bet you used a heat gun on that roast.

Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 04:08 PM (PweV5)

Oxy-Acetylene!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (gSZYf)

22 "I think I may have been overthinking this whole Sourdough Baking Is HARD! thing."

The thing is, just bake. I have loaf, sourdough boule, going into the oven in a few minutes. First one in almost a year. Have lost 30 lbs since then but life is short.

Posted by: javems at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (8I4hW)

23 Ham isn't very hard to make, unless you're a retard. Spiral ham is marketing scam like electric automobiles,- nobody is that stupid.

Split pea and ham soup sounds like a pre-holiday winner before the holiday roast beast.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (9v1kn)

24 >>> 16 I'll start: Quality control has gone down the shitter. Help has been almost impossible to get so quality has plummeted, including such basic things as making sure a package marked as having say 12 ounces in it, actually has something like 12 ounces in it.
Today I felt a difference in an individually bagged product and weighed them. 9oz nominal, they were anywhere from 8.5 to 11oz. A win for the consumer in this case, but I've found ranges of up to 4oz in a nominal 14 oz package.
That is a very serious QC issue.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (43xH1)

Wow, that's a pretty fkn large margin of error.... so I should take a little hanger scale to the grocery with me??

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 04:13 PM (llON8)

25 Also the grocer had 8ct boxes of cinnamon streusel biscotti on clearance for $1.25 each, normally $4.99, so I hit them hard on that. OK
*Fight me
Posted by: Don Black'

I will not, and respect back for calling me a 'grocer'!

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:13 PM (43xH1)

26 one more thing:

Last night I mixed up a Dirty Russian. Normally this is done with chocolate milk, but I used reg milk and Hershey's Special Dark chocolate syrup. The resultant cocktail was delicious, after which I fell asleep for 3 hours.

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 04:13 PM (geLO8)

27 Our local news outlet is pushing the food insecurity thing hard core this holiday season. I hate that all the overly upholstered starving grifters on the news are making me question every charitable enterprise when I know there are people in genuine need.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 17, 2023 04:16 PM (brrec)

28 OK- bone appetite, the next game is starting shortly

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 04:16 PM (geLO8)

29 Wow, that's a pretty fkn large margin of error.... so I should take a little hanger scale to the grocery with me??
Posted by: Helena Handbasket'

Take it to the produce department and put it in those scales. It's becoming a SERIOUS problem. A 20-25% variance is a SERIOUS issue. I tried to explain this a year ago to Grammie Winger, and AOP butted in with his know-it-all-ism about 'I'm vigilant in my shopping Blah Blah Blah' and he pissed me off then and I haven't forgiven him for that. But yes, check the weights of bagged things, QC has utterly gone down the shitter and when we 'grocers' stock, unless you handle things physically and can call it within a few ounces you will not be able to tell.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:17 PM (43xH1)

30 Speaking of filet, I seriously wonder if some asshoe at the processing facility where I got last year's steer switched the filets with a shoulder roast or something. The rest of the beef tastes fine and the other steaks are about as they should be but the 'filets' are so tough they're more like shoulder roast or something.
Any suggestions on marinade, tenderizing or maybe.... sous vide???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 04:17 PM (llON8)

31 16 I'll start: Quality control has gone down the shitter. Help has been almost impossible to get so quality has plummeted, including such basic things as making sure a package marked as having say 12 ounces in it, actually has something like 12 ounces in it.
Today I felt a difference in an individually bagged product and weighed them. 9oz nominal, they were anywhere from 8.5 to 11oz. A win for the consumer in this case, but I've found ranges of up to 4oz in a nominal 14 oz package.
That is a very serious QC issue.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (43xH1)

Had to do Amazon returns at Whole Foods last night - brought my daughter b/c she loves their fresh ground honey roasted peanut butter. Container to make it was empty. Couldn't find anyone to ask about refills for 15 minutes, and then found out they wouldn't refill it. Came home and found out we could make our own with Aldi's peanuts, a little oil, and honey in 3 minutes in a food processor. Whole Foods loss - kid never wants to buy it there again. Ended up walking out buying nothing.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 17, 2023 04:17 PM (exHjb)

32 Last night I mixed up a Dirty Russian.

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 04:13 PM (geLO

With a filthy Scandi?

Seriously...I used to drink White Russians every now and again..nice drink!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:17 PM (gSZYf)

33 Oxy-Acetylene!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:12 PM (gSZYf)
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Don't laugh! It's a great way to get a nice char on something fast!

Posted by: Weasel at December 17, 2023 04:18 PM (JwHpX)

34 Ham. One thing I admit euros do better. I still regret not buying 1/4 lb. of $99/lb. prosciutto once when I was with AtC.

My Italian gf came up with a ham from wild boar, from one specific province in Spain, that only ate wild chestnuts, that was extraordinary.

Euros have been eating swine for long time. They're good at it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 17, 2023 04:18 PM (CnLzB)

35 But at least breakfast will not be a rush, sausages and blueberry pancakes tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2023 04:06 PM (fwDg9)
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No need to wait around for me if you have errands tomorrow. Just put a key under the mat and have a place setting on the table.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 17, 2023 04:18 PM (brrec)

36 Carnitas and fresh tortillas tonight. Maybe a canoli afterwards.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:18 PM (YRsIm)

37 I made wagyu steak (NY strip) for me and my mom last night. It’s obscenely expensive, but it was on sale for half (!) price. So I said what the fuck. Still, I was skeptical it would be worth the money.

Spoiler alert: it was up there with the best steak we ever had. Sous vide at 119. Then pan-sear each side in butter for some crunch and to raise the internal to maybe 125. I nailed it.

Note, this wasn’t the wagyu that’s so fatty it looks white. This is an American wagyu that looks like a very nicely marbled prime cut.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:19 PM (lb2PL)

38 Euros have been eating swine for long time. They're good at it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 17, 2023 04:18 PM (CnLzB)

Jamon Iberico!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:19 PM (gSZYf)

39 Grammie Winger and few others then stated they looked at the cost per ounce on the tag, but that then becomes unreliable if the weights in the container aren't reliable; and despite AOPs seemingly limitless confidence in his diligence, when a few pennies make a difference, they make a difference.
QC has collapsed.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:20 PM (43xH1)

40 Just the two of us for Christmas Dinner, so we're having ham, twice-baked potatoes, maple glazed carrots, a salad, and a small ambrosia, because I'm the only one who likes it.
He hasn't asked for a pie, so maybe just cookies.

We saw everyone during Thanksgiving, so being alone is restful- kind of like being newlyweds.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at December 17, 2023 04:20 PM (KB0Aa)

41 >>> 34 Ham. One thing I admit euros do better. I still regret not buying 1/4 lb. of $99/lb. prosciutto once when I was with AtC.

My Italian gf came up with a ham from wild boar, from one specific province in Spain, that only ate wild chestnuts, that was extraordinary.

Euros have been eating swine for long time. They're good at it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 17, 2023 04:18 PM (CnLzB)

Hmmm, I should look to see where chestnuts grow naturally.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 04:20 PM (llON8)

42 There used to be a time when I needed help from the food banks. I gave a chunk of change to them this month and also took in dog and cat food for the pet food bank. Will try and do the same next month as donations dry up after the holidays.

Saw my neighbor at the store and happened to mention I give my dog steak fingers. I think he was shocked. It's 8 of them for $7, so doesn't seem like an expensive treat to me. But I do realize how badly folks are being squeezed right now.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 17, 2023 04:20 PM (L8hCM)

43 Imagine my heartbreak when I learned that the CCP owns Smithfield Hams, just down the road from where I was born. The CCP control of domestic food suppliers has got to stop. Same for farmland purchases.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 04:21 PM (MeG8a)

44 Closer and closer to 🍸time.

Going to try my hand at Nashville Hot Chicken tonight. It'll probably suck, but my wife's on a chicken Cesar salad kick right now and I'm pretty much sick of those.

I mean... it's hot sauce and chicken. How hard is that?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 17, 2023 04:21 PM (Q4IgG)

45 Euros have been eating swine for long time. They're good at it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 17, 2023 04:18 PM (CnLzB)

Not for too much longer.

Posted by: European Muslims at December 17, 2023 04:21 PM (R/m4+)

46 Mrs.D.has order a ham similar to that one.
I'm already hungry.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 17, 2023 04:22 PM (W/lyH)

47 Actually a salad sounds really good right now.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 17, 2023 04:22 PM (brrec)

48 Food prices are insane and it's a problem.
I was just overseas and the food costs are about the same there... on 1/4 the income.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:22 PM (43xH1)

49 Made a big batch of WeaselBeans today for the week. And no, this is not a violation of the 2 minute rule.

Posted by: Weasel at December 17, 2023 04:23 PM (JwHpX)

50 Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:19 PM (lb2PL)

*scribbles furiously taking notes*

Not gonna lie...I bought a soude vis machine for Christmas and I'm looking forward to trying it with several barnyard animals.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:23 PM (YRsIm)

51 Time for cold pizza and a Coke

Posted by: Jamaica at December 17, 2023 04:23 PM (Eeb9P)

52 A horse is a horse, of course of course-

URK

Posted by: Mr. Ed in France at December 17, 2023 04:23 PM (43xH1)

53 Hello food horde.

That bread looks delicious CBD. Nice job.

Posted by: Pete Bog at December 17, 2023 04:24 PM (3iu+6)

54 The store had two pineapples for $3. I have one of those slicer gadgets that make it easy to deal with them. They need to ripen a bit.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 17, 2023 04:25 PM (L8hCM)

55 44 Closer and closer to 🍸time.

Going to try my hand at Nashville Hot Chicken tonight. It'll probably suck, but my wife's on a chicken Cesar salad kick right now and I'm pretty much sick of those.

I mean... it's hot sauce and chicken. How hard is that?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 17, 2023 04:21 PM (Q4IgG0
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You’d be surprised. Hot chicken is like fish and chips: easy to make mediocre. Surprisingly hard to get really good. I think it’s in the way it’s fried.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:25 PM (lb2PL)

56 Oh, chestnuts were almost all killed off by blight:
https://is.gd/mt1suH
Now I want to see if I can find any of the possibly-resistant varieties to grow here. It's not like TX has a lack of hogs to feed.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 04:26 PM (llON8)

57 I bought a soude vis machine for Christmas and I'm looking forward to trying it with several barnyard animals.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:23 PM (YRsIm)

There is loads of info on the internet, and it is mostly bullsh*t!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:27 PM (gSZYf)

58 That's why I got this place CBD..

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:28 PM (YRsIm)

59 I'm always ashamed when I go to XCountry with all these unbelievable fresh markets with locally grown vegetables and produce and meats and cheeses and I just get overwhelmed as I can't eat it all, and cannot bring it back to USA, so I get a few things and then drink myself stupid.
I watched a guy and a woman grab a rather large fish that wriggled out of a shopping cart in Semlin back into her gunny sack, she wanted it alive to take home so her husband knew it was fresh out of the Danube

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:28 PM (43xH1)

60 My food story of the week. I was going thru pantry and found a box of wild rice from the Indian rez. in Minnesota. Long grain, black in appearance. It took considerably longer than white or brown rice to cook. When cooked, not much flavor, so I added butter and salt. We were already having collard greens and ham that night so the wild rice was added to the menu. Surprisingly, no one complained. I even liked it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 04:29 PM (MeG8a)

61 50 Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:19 PM (lb2PL)

*scribbles furiously taking notes*

Not gonna lie...I bought a soude vis machine for Christmas and I'm looking forward to trying it with several barnyard animals.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:23 PM (YRsIm)
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It’s a total game-changer. I was skeptical but my brother raved about his. So I eventually bought one. I’ll never make steak without it again. I’ll still throw some steaks on an outdoor grill for a BBQ or outdoor party, but that’s for the aesthetics of an old school grillmaster. I know the steaks won’t be as good.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:30 PM (lb2PL)

62 So, I have some sick folks here, so it's chicken day.

I had a butter chicken spice pack from my favorite Indian brand. Rather than make it the way I usually do, I'm baking chicken thighs with just salt and pepper. Then I did a big veg saute (eggplant, bell pepper, onion, green onion, celery, spinach, cilantro, garlic, ginger) and made the sauce over that (with coconut milk and olive oil as my dairy subs). And we'll have white rice and raspberries.

So, folks can just have chicken, rice, and raspberries if they feel cruddy. Or they can make the rice bowls with the sauce and veg. And the nice thing about the coconut milk is it also soothes out spice levels for Indian food (higher fat level than most dairy adds), so it's comforting for the sickies, if they do want it.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 17, 2023 04:30 PM (exHjb)

63 I want to make chicken tacos.

I've got a spice packet I normally use to make beef tacos where you brown the hamburger and then simmer it water with the spice.

I have raw chicken.

So I figured I'd bake the chicken with a little chicken stock to get to 165, then simmer the chicken in water with the spice. I'm just a little worried that it either won't get enough flavor or might even dry out.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Dr Doofenschmirtz at December 17, 2023 04:30 PM (XqcwY)

64 Having Beef Stew tonight.

Between Costco and the Stop and Shop, this weeks grocery bill came out to a whopping 375 bucks.

Incredible.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 17, 2023 04:30 PM (XV/Pl)

65 BTW... save the hamachi for sashimi. If you can get skipjack (kampachi), even better. And make your own pickled ginger. It's not difficult.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:33 PM (YRsIm)

66 Between Costco and the Stop and Shop, this weeks grocery bill came out to a whopping 375 bucks.

Incredible.
Posted by: Thomas Bender'

TF!!! Wow

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 04:33 PM (43xH1)

67 Last night was our game group’s Christmas night (adventure: The Lich Who Stole Christmas) and I was hosting, so I made a nearly bog-standard Crock-Pot Spanish Rice. It called for two pounds ground beef, but I had a pound of sausage in the fridge so I did half-and-half, which did not seem to hurt it.

Mexican Corn Bread from one of Renny Darling’s cookbooks. Red Pepper Relish from an Ideal Christmas Cookbook for the corn bread (as well as some of the very hot jalapeño sauce I made from the 1916 cookbook last week).

And because nobody brought dessert and I always have some on hand, a Coffee Cloud Pie from the same Christmas cookbook, made with marshmallows, coffee, and brandy!

Someone else brought an amazing banana nut bread with chocolate in it. And the DM brought her grandma’s gallino tortillas.

It was a very good Christmas meal. And we earned a bit over a thousand XP each.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 17, 2023 04:33 PM (EXyHK)

68 63 I want to make chicken tacos.

I've got a spice packet I normally use to make beef tacos where you brown the hamburger and then simmer it water with the spice.

I have raw chicken.

So I figured I'd bake the chicken with a little chicken stock to get to 165, then simmer the chicken in water with the spice. I'm just a little worried that it either won't get enough flavor or might even dry out.

Thoughts?
Posted by: Dr Doofenschmirtz at December 17, 2023 04:30 PM (XqcwY)

What kind of chicken is it - ground, bone-in, breast or thigh, etc?

Posted by: Nova Local at December 17, 2023 04:34 PM (exHjb)

69 I’ve ordered ham, apple pie, and some Irish fixins’ for my brother-in-law.

He is not in good health, so I am hoping it will cheer him up.

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Cuisine Critic . . . at December 17, 2023 04:35 PM (4Winp)

70 When I sous vide, I'll stick to MAPP gas to finish over ox-acetylene. Cleaner flavor and the bottles weigh less.

The old lady get skittish when somebody rolls a bottle of acetylene into the kitchen.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 17, 2023 04:35 PM (9v1kn)

71 I have seen lots of Russian movies, never seen in one a Russian drinking vodka any other way but straight up

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2023 04:37 PM (fwDg9)

72 The producers at NBCNews can go crawl on a senate conference room table. That is pure propaganda.
Mrs D sent me for some cereal for a party mix. Corn chex on sale for $2.99. The Rice chex were $7.99. Same for the Wheat chex.
Piss off NBC.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 17, 2023 04:38 PM (W/lyH)

73 @66

>>TF!!! Wow

If I didn't get the meat at Costco it would have probably been 500 bucks.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 17, 2023 04:39 PM (XV/Pl)

74
What kind of chicken is it - ground, bone-in, breast or thigh, etc?

Chicken breast pre-cut strips

Posted by: Dr Doofenschmirtz at December 17, 2023 04:39 PM (XqcwY)

75 Aldi's has split lamb breast plate on sale for under $4lb, so my kid wanted it and we bought it. She wants to make it like ribs, but I wasn't sure what BBQ sauce type would work. We talked about a coffee-base, a red wine base, a mustard base, or just the dang bottle of Sweet Baby Ray's...but has anyone eaten this cut and wants to share insight. We do not want mint or mint jelly. The herb of choice is probably gonna be rosemary and garlic instead...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 17, 2023 04:40 PM (exHjb)

76 I have turned into a regular baker of bread. I did this long ago, way back when, but now I am focused on bread I bake in a dutch oven, and which requires a pretty fast first proof (2 hours).

Results have been good, and consistent. I am using a small 2.5 qt pot, and parchment paper lining.

Small amount of active dry yeast, small amounts of salt, sugar, apple cider vinegar, and bread flour. I flash the oven on for just a minute or less and proof the dough in the oven at a little over 80 degrees.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at December 17, 2023 04:40 PM (KiBMU)

77 If you're gonna make chicken tacos, remove the skin and simmer the chicken in zatarains then shred it and mix in some fresh chopped green onions. Fry the skin and then chop it up to use as a topping. I always use soft flour tortillas.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:40 PM (YRsIm)

78 I want to make chicken tacos.

I've got a spice packet I normally use to make beef tacos where you brown the hamburger and then simmer it water with the spice.

I have raw chicken.

So I figured I'd bake the chicken with a little chicken stock to get to 165, then simmer the chicken in water with the spice. I'm just a little worried that it either won't get enough flavor or might even dry out.

Thoughts?

I've made chicken tacos (and turkey, the week after Thanksgiving) starting from both raw and pre-cooked chicken. Turns out fine either way. Once the meat is sufficiently cooked and diced the process is exactly the same as hamburger.

Then again I'm not exactly known for a discerning palate, so take that into account.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 17, 2023 04:41 PM (dZVON)

79 I suddenly have ham on the brain, because a good friend of mine just brought me, as a Christmas present, a 10 lb piece of bone-in ham that comes from a wild hog he shot and smoked. Already had some of it, and it's as good as any store bought ham I've had (with a smokier taste)

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 17, 2023 04:41 PM (S6gqv)

80 I found Boar's Head ham at Smith's. (Kroger) Got seven "dinner steaks" of their Tavern Ham. $25. Tried a sample. Very nice.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 17, 2023 04:41 PM (Angsy)

81 CBD,

Did you use that photo of Rays country ham because you like them or was it just a convenient photo to illustrate the topic?

Posted by: JTB at December 17, 2023 04:42 PM (7EjX1)

82 Heh. Ray's place is just up the road in Mt. Airy. This sort of view is only a few minutes up the road.
https://tinyurl.com/ylab2tl3

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2023 04:42 PM (XeU6L)

83 @77

>>I always use soft flour tortillas.

I always use the little corn tortillas, I feel it gives it a overall better experience.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 17, 2023 04:43 PM (XV/Pl)

84 I have a combined Cooking Thread/FWP:
I have a terrible head cold and I don’t know what wine goes well with it.

Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 04:44 PM (PweV5)

85 74
What kind of chicken is it - ground, bone-in, breast or thigh, etc?

Chicken breast pre-cut strips
Posted by: Dr Doofenschmirtz at December 17, 2023 04:39 PM (XqcwY)

If it's precut in strips, I'd just cook it in pan with some olive oil, brown on both sides, and then when it's almost done, add the spice mix and a touch of water (if needed) to finish it - usually the chicken gives off enough fluid, you may not even need water...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 17, 2023 04:45 PM (exHjb)

86 Do any of you bread makers add a little apple cider vinegar? The recipe for the dough for Jamaican meat pies calls for it.Supposedly it keeps the dough light. It is also supposed to keep your pie dough light and tender

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 04:45 PM (YsgJW)

87 I found Boar's Head ham at Smith's. (Kroger) Got seven "dinner steaks" of their Tavern Ham. $25. Tried a sample. Very nice.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 17, 2023 04:41 PM (Angsy)

Have never been disappointed with Boars Head. Kroger sucks, but BH is pretty good.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 17, 2023 04:45 PM (W/lyH)

88 Ham needs a side. I just made broccoli rabe in a 20 quart pot if you have Tupperware, come and get it.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 17, 2023 04:47 PM (blmVn)

89
Hmmm.

Looks like Shaken Manhattans avoid CBD's wrath this week.

As is well and proper!

Perhaps CBD is coming over to the side of goodness and light.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 04:47 PM (QzZeQ)

90 I bought one of those small Dutch ovens to use for bread. Nice size for just me. Of course, I got sick and haven't tried it yet.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 17, 2023 04:47 PM (L8hCM)

91 For me, corn tortillas work for 'dry' meats and flour tortillas work with fatty or 'wet' fillings. I gotta admit a good fresh corn tortilla is a wonderful thing.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:48 PM (YRsIm)

92 McCormick's White Chicken Chili seasoning mix makes great chicken taco seasoning.

Add some Cayenne pepper for some extra heat.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 17, 2023 04:48 PM (R/m4+)

93 I have a combined Cooking Thread/FWP:
I have a terrible head cold and I don’t know what wine goes well with it.

Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 04:44 PM (PweV5)

You have the perfect whine.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 17, 2023 04:49 PM (CnLzB)

94 And tortillas need to be made with Manteca. Accept no substitutes.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:50 PM (YRsIm)

95 89
Hmmm.

Looks like Shaken Manhattans avoid CBD's wrath this week.

As is well and proper!

Perhaps CBD is coming over to the side of goodness and light.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 04:47 PM (QzZeQ)
———-

I proudly shake the shit outta my manhattans and laugh at the misbegotten uncouth foolish sasquatches who stir theirs.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:50 PM (lb2PL)

96 It's nearing five, and I've had nothing but a couple of slices of oatmeal toast, and a couple of slices of banana bread, and a liter of coffee. I do have a hamburger defrosting.
Oh, and a ramkin of jello, made according to an old family recipe.

Posted by: From about that Time at December 17, 2023 04:50 PM (4780s)

97 Bought some packaged sliced/smoked ham the other day. Opening it, I was surprised by the wateryness of it. Looked closely at the labeling, 'May contain up to 28% water'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2023 04:50 PM (XeU6L)

98 The acid is to make sure the baking powder is used up, BH.

Posted by: Jamaica at December 17, 2023 04:51 PM (Eeb9P)

99 I have a combined Cooking Thread/FWP:
I have a terrible head cold and I don’t know what wine goes well with it.

Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 04:44 PM (PweV5)

You have the perfect whine.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 17, 2023 04:49 PM (CnLzB)
***

No need for half measures.
Recommend heated apple cider with some apple whiskey.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 17, 2023 04:51 PM (W/lyH)

100 I keep a bottle of cactus wine to use as the liquid while cookin chicken for tacos.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 04:52 PM (YsgJW)

101 > Looks like Shaken Manhattans avoid CBD's wrath this week.
___________

I went on a two week bender making those. Complete with the $25 "cocktail" cherries.

My liver hates me.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 17, 2023 04:52 PM (Q4IgG)

102 We haven't baked bread for quite a while. But with the cost of a loaf of our preferred sandwich bread at around $4.50 and how much we go through (not a lot) it is now less expensive to bake our own. Plus we can make the types and amounts we want. The aroma of baking bread would be a bonus.

Posted by: JTB at December 17, 2023 04:52 PM (7EjX1)

103 Remember that broccoli rabe has in one cup;
- 70% of your daily vitamin C
- 43% of your vitamin A
- 30% of your folate
- zinc, iron, calcium and almost 5 grams of fiber

It's also rich in glucosinolates which have significant anti-cancer properties.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 17, 2023 04:53 PM (blmVn)

104 Well played, bander!

Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 04:54 PM (PweV5)

105 Chicken breast pre-cut strips

Posted by: Dr Doofenschmirtz at December 17, 2023 04:39 PM (XqcwY)

I would saute them on medium heat with some stock and the spice mix. Then when the stock has evaporated, add a splash of olive oil and finish on medium-high for some color.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:55 PM (gSZYf)

106 Now I want to see if I can find any of the possibly-resistant varieties to grow here. It's not like TX has a lack of hogs to feed.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Chinese chestnut grows in America and is not susceptible to the blight that killed the American Chestnut trees.
The only caveat is the blossoms don't smell good so figure out which way the wind blows and plant the trees downwind from your place.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 04:55 PM (TkA04)

107 CBD, nice crumb on your sour dough bread!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 04:56 PM (TkA04)

108 The youngest granddaughter is getting a set of knives for Christmas. They're designed to be used by kids and they won't cut flesh. Not sure how that works but OK. She likes to be in the kitchen with Gigi. So I got Gigi a set of Chefs knives and both of them matching aprons.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 04:56 PM (YRsIm)

109 I believe this is a legitimate food item.
Shanda Van Ark has been found guilty of murdering her 15-year-old special needs son by forcing him to consume Carolina Reaper sauce.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 17, 2023 04:56 PM (26hf8)

110 I recently bought store brand bacon and while cooking it, the pan filled up with water !

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2023 04:57 PM (T4tVD)

111 Looks like Shaken Manhattans avoid CBD's wrath this week.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 04:47 PM (QzZeQ)

I proudly shake the shit outta my manhattans and laugh at the misbegotten uncouth foolish sasquatches who stir theirs.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:50 PM (lb2PL)

You are both pathetic excuses for drinkers, and will be cast into the fires of hell (Jaegermeister shots and Cosmopolitans) if the cocktail gods get wind of your blasphemy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:57 PM (gSZYf)

112 I’ve never baked bread or made a cake or pie in my life. Just not into it. Probably mostly because I don’t eat any of those things.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:58 PM (lb2PL)

113 CBD, nice crumb on your sour dough bread!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 04:56 PM (TkA04)

I think that is at least in part because of the starter. It is amazingly energetic!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:58 PM (gSZYf)

114 A public service.
Beware of links that read Taylor Swift sings Christmas songs.
Because it has Taylor Swift singing Christmas songs.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 04:59 PM (MeG8a)

115 Have never been disappointed with Boars Head. Kroger sucks, but BH is pretty good.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 17, 2023 04:45 PM (W/lyH)

It was nice and tasty, plus there were no gristly bits in it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 17, 2023 04:59 PM (Angsy)

116
Not much cooking this week. We're having the home repair blues again.

*sigh*

Ah well, it should all end over the next couple o0f days.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 04:59 PM (QzZeQ)

117 Ham. I love ham.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 05:00 PM (xcxpd)

118 I recently bought store brand bacon and while cooking it, the pan filled up with water !
Posted by: JT
==

Probably not much bacon there afterwards.

I have noted the same trend in other packaged foods. I mentioned here a jar of White House apple sauce which could be poured like a thin soup.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2023 05:00 PM (XeU6L)

119 Leftover day today. Pork medallions coated with nutmeg and ginger then cooked in peachello. Apple slices braised in the juice. Mashed potatoes with cheese and bacon.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:01 PM (YsgJW)

120 I have a combined Cooking Thread/FWP:
I have a terrible head cold and I don’t know what wine goes well with it.
Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 04:44 PM

old Russian remedy- take 2 Sudafed with a vodka chaser. Repeat every 4 hours.

Hot toddies in between, as required.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 17, 2023 05:01 PM (S6gqv)

121 And I COULD live on 2400/month but my mortgage and bills wouldn't leave me with much to buy food with. Maybe ramen and rice at best. I could do it, but it wouldn't be pleasant....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 05:02 PM (xcxpd)

122 108 ... "She likes to be in the kitchen with Gigi. So I got Gigi a set of Chefs knives and both of them matching aprons."

Crotchety, That sounds adorable. It reminded Mrs. JTB that when she was little, her mother and aunt got one pattern and sewed matching aprons for her and her girls cousins. She smiled at the memory.

Posted by: JTB at December 17, 2023 05:02 PM (7EjX1)

123 You are both pathetic excuses for drinkers, and will be cast into the fires of hell (Jaegermeister shots and Cosmopolitans) if the cocktail gods get wind of your blasphemy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:57 PM (gSZYf)

I will attest to the greatness of the Dildo Manhattan. He may deserve ridicule for a lot of things, but dude has an outstanding Manhattan recipe and method. Reluctant respect where it's due.

Posted by: Doof at December 17, 2023 05:03 PM (XeoiC)

124 CBD, I bet you used a heat gun on that roast.
Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red

Oxy-Acetylene!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Real nerds use a laser.

Posted by: mikeski at December 17, 2023 05:04 PM (DgGvY)

125 111 Looks like Shaken Manhattans avoid CBD's wrath this week.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 04:47 PM (QzZeQ)

I proudly shake the shit outta my manhattans and laugh at the misbegotten uncouth foolish sasquatches who stir theirs.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 04:50 PM (lb2PL)

You are both pathetic excuses for drinkers, and will be cast into the fires of hell (Jaegermeister shots and Cosmopolitans) if the cocktail gods get wind of your blasphemy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 04:57 PM (gSZYf)
———

Cosmo gets a bad rap as a twatty air-kissing poolboy-fucking bitch drink, but the recipe popularized by Dale DeGroff is quite tasty. The vast majority of knockoffs are too sweet and mainly intended to get girls drunk.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 05:07 PM (lb2PL)

126 Who are the folks that want low fat eggnog? This one isn't bad but needed the cream and brandy I added

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 17, 2023 05:09 PM (L8hCM)

127 119 Leftover day today. Pork medallions coated with nutmeg and ginger then cooked in peachello. Apple slices braised in the juice. Mashed potatoes with cheese and bacon.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:01 PM (YsgJW)

Damn good leftovers there!

Posted by: Nova Local at December 17, 2023 05:09 PM (exHjb)

128 Strongest thing I have in the house right now is a bottle of “Dead Head” special edition of old vine Red Zinfandel.
-whine- I’ll just suffer.

Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 05:09 PM (PweV5)

129 Posted by: JTB at December 17, 2023 05:02 PM (7EjX1)

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 05:09 PM (YRsIm)

130 New food (to me) Quince jelly. You spread it like jam. It's sorta sweet but not too sweet. Tastes really good on bread.

I got the idea for it from the book 'Isolate' by Lee Modesitt . The man is a very experienced sci-fi writer but the book series is basically political conferences and Filipino food.

Still, the main character loves quince on croissants in the morning and I can attest to the tastiness of that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 05:09 PM (xcxpd)

131 The vast majority of knockoffs are too sweet and mainly intended to get girls drunk.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 05:07 PM (lb2PL)

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any variety of Liquid Panty Remover

Posted by: Doof at December 17, 2023 05:09 PM (XeoiC)

132 Soaked a pork roast in cider for three days. Seared it in bacon grease. Put it in the slow cooker with some sliced up apples and sweet potatoes. Tonight's dinner.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 17, 2023 05:10 PM (9yUzE)

133 I commented about the almond milk egg nog last week. The taste was fine but the mouth feel was unsatisfactory.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 05:12 PM (MeG8a)

134 131 The vast majority of knockoffs are too sweet and mainly intended to get girls drunk.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 05:07 PM (lb2PL)

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any variety of Liquid Panty Remover
Posted by: Doof at December 17, 2023 05:09 PM (XeoiC)
————

‘Yea, until she shits on your bed!”

— Amber Heard

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 05:12 PM (lb2PL)

135 132 Soaked a pork roast in cider for three days. Seared it in bacon grease. Put it in the slow cooker with some sliced up apples and sweet potatoes. Tonight's dinner.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 17, 2023 05:10 PM (9yUzE)

want

Pork + apples is money baby.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 05:12 PM (xcxpd)

136 128 Strongest thing I have in the house right now is a bottle of “Dead Head” special edition of old vine Red Zinfandel.
-whine- I’ll just suffer.
Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 05:09 PM (PweV5)

Get thee some Buffalo Trace. You can thank me later.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 05:13 PM (xcxpd)

137 Tried new to us recipe. Cauliflower & Celery root soup. First time ever bought a fennel. Wife loved it. Reminded me of potato soup.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 17, 2023 05:14 PM (ju2Fy)

138 With ham, you must have cheese

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 17, 2023 05:16 PM (WF/xn)

139 I did buy some saffron to use in risotto this week. Looking forward to trying that.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 05:17 PM (YRsIm)

140 Next up is the Cranberry Orange chicken. It's a very pretty dish. Sweet & savory combination.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 17, 2023 05:18 PM (ju2Fy)

141 Went to Costco looking for a ribeye roast, the boneless whole ones were over $250. nope. The boneless looked good; but then I spotted a 6 bone roast with okay marbling, only $159. F* the last three congress and presidents.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 05:18 PM (TkA04)

142 132 Soaked a pork roast in cider for three days. Seared it in bacon grease. Put it in the slow cooker with some sliced up apples and sweet potatoes. Tonight's dinner.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 17, 2023 05:10 PM (9yUzE)

I do something similar with New Year's Eve pork. So tasty.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 17, 2023 05:18 PM (R4t5M)

143 "The new "science" says no amount of alcohol is safe to consume. OK "scientists". Your concern is duly noted.
-----
I'm sticking with two.

Posted by: javems at December 17, 2023 05:18 PM (8I4hW)

144 Crotchety Old Jarhead, do you add chicken livers to the risotto with saffron?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:19 PM (YsgJW)

145 With ham, you must have cheese
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 17, 2023 05:16 PM (WF/xn)

I thought it was with ham, you must have Shatner?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 17, 2023 05:19 PM (Angsy)

146 MAE, thanks, but I’m not much of a whiskey drinker after that incident on the beach in the middle of the night in August, 1968.

Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 05:20 PM (PweV5)

147 Get thee some Buffalo Trace. You can thank me later.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 05:13 PM (xcxpd)

Just found 1 Litre sized bottles of B Trace. A little extra is always a good thing.

Posted by: Doof at December 17, 2023 05:20 PM (XeoiC)

148 Sipped on some Woodford Reserve last night at a party. Very nice. Haven't had it in a while.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 17, 2023 05:21 PM (R4t5M)

149 Anyone here ever have one of those $400+ hams from Spain?

I have to believe they are fantastic.

I'll figure I've finally " made it" when I can buy it without guilt.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 17, 2023 05:22 PM (TzW+Y)

150 Just found 1 Litre sized bottles of B Trace. A little extra is always a good thing.
Posted by: Doof at December 17, 2023 05:20 PM (XeoiC)

Good move, you’ll be surprised how quickly it evaporates.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 17, 2023 05:22 PM (8e0w3)

151 Wife is helping her sister make noodles today. They will be used in Christmas Eve soup, consisting of noodles and mushrooms in kraut juice. Maybe some beans too. I forget.

Posted by: Ronster at December 17, 2023 05:22 PM (PxJlx)

152 Wife is helping her sister make noodles today. They will be used in Christmas Eve soup, consisting of noodles and mushrooms in kraut juice. Maybe some beans too. I forget.
Posted by: Ronster

Slovak or Polish recipe?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 17, 2023 05:24 PM (R4t5M)

153 The vast majority of knockoffs are too sweet and mainly intended to get girls drunk.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 05:07 PM (lb2PL)

This is true.

I have a friend who used to be a serious bartender, and when we went to his bar he would love to try to embarrass me with chick drinks. But everything he made was excellent, including the chocolate martinis and the cosmopolitans!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:24 PM (gSZYf)

154 Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:19 PM (YsgJW)

Oh, I hadn't thought of that. I'll probably add an egg yolk in at the end to make it a little richer though.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 05:24 PM (YRsIm)

155 Just found 1 Litre sized bottles of B Trace. A little extra is always a good thing.
Posted by: Doof at December 17, 2023 05:20 PM (XeoiC)

They sell 1 liter bottles of that stuff???

*Envy increases*

Here they've stopped selling them until the New Year, due to WA's fucked up taxes. Maybe in Jan I can get some more....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 05:24 PM (xcxpd)

156 Made bread again yesterday - simple, fast rise and then in a dutch oven inside a 500F oven for 40 minutes. Chewy crust, decent crumb.

My wife was taken out to the new Italian place in town by friends - it had a great reputation. She brought back the bread served. It was garbage. I swear they bought the week old stuff thrown out by Wonderbread.

They didn't even know to serve some good, herbed olive oil on a small plate for dipping.

Mudagons!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2023 05:25 PM (qoGsy)

157 Anyone here ever have one of those $400+ hams from Spain?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 17, 2023 05:22 PM (TzW+Y)

Yes. And they are as good as their reputation says.

Find a good Spanish restaurant...they might have one and serve slices.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:25 PM (gSZYf)

158 146 MAE, thanks, but I’m not much of a whiskey drinker after that incident on the beach in the middle of the night in August, 1968.
Posted by: Dearth Plethora, f/k/a RI Red at December 17, 2023 05:20 PM (PweV5)

It is time for you to come back to the brown liquors. Buffalo Trace will show you the way.

Seriously, it's good stuff. Not to pressure you or anything but it's a great entry-level bourbon. A fine mixer or sipper.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 05:26 PM (xcxpd)

159 Mr Aspirin Factory

Slovak

Posted by: Ronster at December 17, 2023 05:27 PM (PxJlx)

160 >>In Wisconsin, Estrada shares that pessimistic view. She said her family has struggled financially since her husband was deported to Mexico in 2012, leaving her as the sole provider for six children, including one whom she adopted. . . . Estrada, 43, who has started a nonprofit to help other low-income families like hers and who ran unsuccessfully in 2018 as a Democrat for the Wisconsin state Assembly. “But what I’m more fearful of is that I have three girls that are graduating this year from high school, and I’m just fearful as to what the world has to offer them.”

Ah - so much packed into those 2 paragraphs, eh?
She can't make due yet considers herself expert enough to fix this problem for others via a non-profit *and* elected office.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2023 05:27 PM (izj35)

161 She brought back the bread served. It was garbage. I swear they bought the week old stuff thrown out by Wonderbread.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2023 05:25 PM (qoGsy)

The night before I got that wonderful sourdough starter we ate at another restaurant in Lambertville NJ. The meal was fine, but the bread sucked. It looked like a pale baguette from the freezer section.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:27 PM (gSZYf)

162 Crotchety Old Jarhead, I add a cup or better of Romano cheese also. This was my grandmother's dish and it took me years to get it right. Do you use chicken broth and white wine for the liquids?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:27 PM (YsgJW)

163 Currently sipping on some Makers Mark Cask Strength. Mildly smokey with hints of vanilla and caramel. 111 proof. Adults only.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 17, 2023 05:28 PM (Q4IgG)

164 Just found 1 Litre sized bottles of B Trace. A little extra is always a good thing.

Posted by: Doof at December 17, 2023 05:20 PM (XeoiC)

It's getting tough to find around here!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:29 PM (gSZYf)

165 163 Currently sipping on some Makers Mark Cask Strength. Mildly smokey with hints of vanilla and caramel. 111 proof. Adults only.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 17, 2023 05:28 PM (Q4IgG)

Quality. I haven't had a Maker's bottle yet that wasn't good.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 05:29 PM (xcxpd)

166 >>>@86 Do any of you bread makers add a little apple cider vinegar? The recipe for the dough for Jamaican meat pies calls for it. Supposedly it keeps the dough light. It is also supposed to keep your pie dough light and tender. Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 04:45 PM (YsgJW)
==========
Greetings, BH ... Yes, I've successfully used vinegar when making pie crusts, following a cousin's recipe which makes 6 single pie shells ... The recipe calls for 1 tbsp of vinegar and 4 cups of flour ... I can post the full recipe for anyone interested (it may need to be a Part One and Part Two, though).

Posted by: Kathy at December 17, 2023 05:30 PM (LPNLk)

167 Ah - so much packed into those 2 paragraphs, eh?
She can't make due yet considers herself expert enough to fix this problem for others via a non-profit *and* elected office.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2023 05:27 PM (izj35)

That's so true...

As for making due, one of the reasons I've included a ton of veg in meals this year is that fresh veg has somehow been the cheapest thing in my area this year (so many produce loss leaders every week IF you'll cook them, so few meat/fish ones), so if you can't increase the meat portion, extending it with veg is the healthiest way to go, especially for teens...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 17, 2023 05:30 PM (exHjb)

168 I'm having our Christmas open house this week. It will be mostly 60-80 year old women. I have plenty of wine, decent bourbons, and soft drinks. But, what do old ladies really like to drink? They are a fun bunch - sweet cordials? Rumchata/Bailey's - things like that?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2023 05:31 PM (qoGsy)

169 Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:27 PM (YsgJW)

Home made broth and sake actually. I put the pecorino on the side and let folks add it as they want.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 05:32 PM (YRsIm)

170 Christmas present food we get each year from family: Neuske's bacon and Enstrom's toffee. YUM!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2023 05:32 PM (izj35)

171 The Serrano ham (if you can find one) is delightful. Traditionally it is mounted on a special rack for carving thin slices. Sometimes the retailer who sells you the ham will also rent the special rack. I'd read that their diet is entirely acorns.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 05:33 PM (MeG8a)

172 Kathy, I have afriend that keeps trying to make pies and it takes a jackhammer to cut the crust. I must find a polite way to suggest this. Thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:33 PM (YsgJW)

173 Cooling off out thar.

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2023 05:33 PM (T4tVD)

174
I haven't been in the mood for scotch for a long time. Pre-covid, I think.

Anyway...last night I was in the mood. So, I poured a glass of Compass Box Peat Monster Arcana.

Very nice quaff.

I might have another glass o'scotch tonight.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 05:34 PM (QzZeQ)

175 Ben Had, what is your friend using for the fat? Cisco?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2023 05:34 PM (qoGsy)

176 >>> 67
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And because nobody brought dessert and I always have some on hand, a Coffee Cloud Pie from the same Christmas cookbook, made with marshmallows, coffee, and brandy!
==
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 17, 2023 04:33 PM (EXyHK)

Share the recipe please?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 05:34 PM (llON8)

177 Cooling off out thar.
Posted by: JT

Yeah, 77F today and 68F by Wed.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 05:35 PM (TkA04)

178 Tried new to us recipe. Cauliflower & Celery root soup. First time ever bought a fennel. Wife loved it.

Fennel is wonderful in soups. I made a roasted tomato fennel soup a week or two ago (with seared scallops) that was quite nice. And it is good with potatoes. I made a potato gratin several years ago with fresh fennel that I should revisit.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 17, 2023 05:35 PM (EXyHK)

179 I might have another glass o'scotch tonight.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 05:34 PM (QzZeQ)

Try not to shake it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:36 PM (gSZYf)

180 naturalfake, I was gifted a bottle of Balvenie French Oak 16. WOW.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:37 PM (YsgJW)

181 I might have another glass o'scotch tonight.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 05:34 PM (QzZeQ)

Try not to shake it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:36 PM (gSZYf)

Oh, it is getting shaken, pally! It is getting shaken!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 05:39 PM (QzZeQ)

182 $2400/month just for food? Jeez, that's more than our TOTAL income!

Posted by: JQ at December 17, 2023 05:39 PM (njWTi)

183 The Serrano ham (if you can find one) is delightful.

Posted by: gourmand du jour
-------------

Rays Country Ham's has Rays Jamon Serrano on sale for $50/lb. Come in 4 cute little 4oz packs.

https://is.gd/rays_serrano_ham

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 17, 2023 05:39 PM (ju2Fy)

184 My sister and her husband raise Ossabaw-mixed hogs in SC. Every year they slaughter some pigs and take the hams to a well-known processor in TN. When he's finished, the hams are brought home to cure. They are some of the finest country hams I've ever tasted.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2023 05:40 PM (rj6Yv)

185 naturalfake, I was gifted a bottle of Balvenie French Oak 16. WOW.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:37 PM (YsgJW)

NIce!, Ben Had.

That should be delicious.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 17, 2023 05:40 PM (QzZeQ)

186 >>As for making due, one of the reasons I've included a ton of veg in meals this year is that fresh veg has somehow been the cheapest thing in my area this year (so many produce loss leaders every week IF you'll cook them, so few meat/fish ones), so if you can't increase the meat portion, extending it with veg is the healthiest way to go, especially for teens...

Yes! The other key is not buying prepared and junk food and NOT eating out (or fast food). I'd be curious how many expensive shortcuts she takes, and given she has teens, how many bags of doritos, freezer meals, etc. she stocks -- those have always been expensive, more so recently. Not only is it healthier to cook from scratch, it is generally cheaper (provided you're sticking to standard ingredients/limited ingredients per recipe).

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2023 05:40 PM (izj35)

187 Anytime someone says no amount of alcohol, all I can think is "do you wanna live forever?"

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 17, 2023 05:40 PM (S6gqv)

188 >>> 172 Kathy, I have afriend that keeps trying to make pies and it takes a jackhammer to cut the crust. I must find a polite way to suggest this. Thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:33 PM (YsgJW)

Kathy, I'd like to see this recipe too.

Ben Had, remind me to bring something from Just Pies in Tyler next time I'm down your way.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 05:42 PM (llON8)

189 PERFECT PIE CRUSTS (by cousin Joy)
4 c. flour
1 tbsp. sugar
2 tsp. salt
1.75 cup Crisco
1 large egg
1 tbsp. vinegar
1/2 cup water

In a large bowl, mix flour, sugar, and salt with a fork. Then add Crisco and mix well with fork until crumbly. In a small bowl, beat egg, vinegar and water. Combine the two mixtures, stirring with a fork until all ingredients are moistened.

Divide dough into 6 portions and, with your hands, shape each into a flat round patty ready for rolling. Wrap each patty in waxed paper and chill for at least 30 minutes.

Roll on slightly floured board. Makes 6 single shells.

For baked shells: Line pie pan with pastry. Prick bottom and sides with a fork. Use pie weights to prevent ballooning of crust. Bake at 450 degrees for 10-15 minutes.

Posted by: Kathy at December 17, 2023 05:42 PM (LPNLk)

190 naturalfake, It is. You get different highlights as it goes down
I rate good food and booze at the back of the palate .

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:43 PM (YsgJW)

191 Share the recipe please?

½ lb marshmallows; 1 cup strong coffee; 1 tbsp butter; 1 tbsp brandy; 1 cup heavy cream, whipped; 9-inch baked pie shell

Combine the marshmallows, coffee, and butter in a double boiler; heat until marshmallows dissolve. Add brandy, remove from heat, cool enough to fold in whipped cream. “Heap into pie shell.” Refrigerate.—Ideals Christmas Cookbook Treasury.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 17, 2023 05:43 PM (EXyHK)

192
Miserable overcast day with rain here in SE PA so 'comfort food' dinner. Spaghetti and meat balls and a salad. Gotta have croutons in the salad so had to mince some garlic, add some butter, nuke it in the microwave for a short bit, then brush the combo over plain old toasted sliced bread. Then into the oven at 350 degrees for exactly one minute then 'Keep Warm' mode (175 degrees) for an exactly indeterminate long time.

Then pull the toast out, cut into quarter inch pieces and add to salad. Every bite of salad gone, spaghetti and meatballs demolished. The hardest part, and most enjoyable was the croutons. Store bought will crack a tooth or three, while my method is so delectable and soft and easy to bite into.

My personal conspiracy theory is that garlic consumption prevents cancer as I've never met someone in my relatively long life with serious garlic breath so inflicted. Not a one. N=? Math.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 17, 2023 05:43 PM (enJYY)

193 Many years ago I was a cocktail party with my wife. Old Victorian house owned by an older woman who worked with us. She was very elegant, dressed to the nines, etc.

Loved, loved, loved Martinis. Very dry Martinis. Like straight gin Martinis.

We got along very well...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 17, 2023 05:43 PM (Q4IgG)

194 Evening all. Dried sourdough starter:

Carl Griffith's 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough Starter

http://www.carlsfriends.net/

Who is Carl Griffith?
He is known for his generosity and the high quality and vitality of his sourdough starts, which came from a sourdough culture carefully nurtured and preserved in his family for over 150 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2023 05:44 PM (GIBR7)

195 I have to disagree with the instructions. The best way to cool bacon is on a rack in the oven. Super crispy and all the grease drains away.

Posted by: doug whiddon at December 17, 2023 05:44 PM (Pe75z)

196 Pretty much any pie crust recipe that calls for x tablespoons of water, you can replace the first tablespoon with a tablespoon of vinegar. I just recently started doing this with my oatmeal pie crust recipe and it made an already very good pie crust much better. (That was the crust I used for the coffee pie, in fact.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 17, 2023 05:45 PM (EXyHK)

197 Leaf lard for pie crusts.

Beef Stroganoff for supper tonight.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2023 05:45 PM (rj6Yv)

198 Helena Handbasket, we will talk. I have enough crap cleared out we can eat, drink and play with tools!

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:45 PM (YsgJW)

199 mrp, YES.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:47 PM (YsgJW)

200 My sister and her husband raise Ossabaw-mixed hogs in SC.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2023 05:40 PM (rj6Yv)

Ossabaw pigs may be the best in the country. I have had chops from those pigs and they were incredible.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:48 PM (gSZYf)

201 >>> 192
==
My personal conspiracy theory is that garlic consumption prevents cancer as I've never met someone in my relatively long life with serious garlic breath so inflicted. Not a one. N=? Math.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 17, 2023 05:43 PM (enJYY)

nurse ratched mentioned in a previous ~~episode~~ thread that Goya has jars of diced garlic available.

I found a brand Dorot which sells packages of frozen diced garlic in little push-out pods. They also have ginger in the same packaging. I've used both and they're tasty.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 05:49 PM (llON8)

202 >>> 198 Helena Handbasket, we will talk. I have enough crap cleared out we can eat, drink and play with tools!
Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:45 PM (YsgJW)

Not in that exact order

... but I would love to do that, will be in touch!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 05:50 PM (llON8)

203 You can eat very cheaply and nutritiously.

Poor people used to know how

Now it's idiocracy

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 17, 2023 05:51 PM (WF/xn)

204 Stepping away for a bit, y'all have tasty dinners tonight!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 05:53 PM (llON8)

205 I'd be curious how many expensive shortcuts she takes, and given she has teens, how many bags of doritos, freezer meals, etc. she stocks -- those have always been expensive, more so recently. Not only is it healthier to cook from scratch, it is generally cheaper (provided you're sticking to standard ingredients/limited ingredients per recipe).

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2023 05:40 PM (izj35)

You are spot on!

$2,400/month is a lot of money. I could easily feed seven people on that, and I don't think it would be particularly difficult.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:53 PM (gSZYf)

206 Ossabaw pigs may be the best in the country. I have had chops from those pigs and they were incredible.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:48 PM (gSZYf)

During a family gathering at their farm a few years back, I cooked two pork shoulders low and slow. 1.5 shoulders disappeared half-way through the meal. The other 1/2 shoulder was saved for those still working. It was a daunting task to protect that pork. Of course, my secret sauce recipe had nothing to do with the excellent results.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2023 05:54 PM (rj6Yv)

207 Helena Handbasket, great . I am getting ready to makes some raised, moveable herb beds.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 05:54 PM (YsgJW)

208 I use the diced garlic in a jar all the time. Sometimes i put it in the mortar and crush it with onion

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 17, 2023 05:54 PM (WF/xn)

209 I found a brand Dorot which sells packages of frozen diced garlic in little push-out pods. They also have ginger in the same packaging. I've used both and they're tasty.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 05:49 PM (llON

It's an Israeli company. My mom used to buy their stuff.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:54 PM (gSZYf)

210 I would on occasion, while peeling garlic cloves just pop one in my mouth and eat it raw. It is a peak culinary experience. I never suffered any colds when I did this. Possibly because no one would come near me.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 05:57 PM (MeG8a)

211 What's the point of sushi if it can't be sous vide'd?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 17, 2023 05:57 PM (piwf8)

212 I found a brand Dorot which sells packages of frozen diced garlic. . . .
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I'll have to look for that brand. We used to grow boatloads of garlic and I'd just rip one off of the braids hanging in the shed. The garlic I'm currently using isn't horrible but it sure could be better.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2023 05:58 PM (qoGsy)

213 >I would on occasion, while peeling garlic cloves just pop one in my mouth and eat it raw. It is a peak culinary experience.

how so

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 05:58 PM (geLO8)

214 Oh- BUF 21 DAL 3 @half

and I bet that's hard for Cowboy fans 'to swallow'

get it- swallow, food thread
?

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 06:00 PM (geLO8)

215 I would on occasion, while peeling garlic cloves just pop one in my mouth and eat it raw. It is a peak culinary experience. I never suffered any colds when I did this. Possibly because no one would come near me.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 05:57 PM (MeG8

I used to buy big jars of peeled garlic cloves. I’d roast them in the oven with olive oil and salt and eat them as a snack. Just great.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 17, 2023 06:00 PM (8e0w3)

216 The filet roast is perfect. I’m sitting here waiting to sing Joy To The World, and suddenly I’m hungry! Just ate at 200pm.

Posted by: Eromero at December 17, 2023 06:00 PM (DXbAa)

217 Depending on the strength of the garlic, the mouth waters, explodes with the strong garlic flavor, the eyes may water. Then there is a delayed effect. About a minute after chewing and swallowing you get a nice garlicky burp, which is good for chasing away any vampires lurking about.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 06:02 PM (MeG8a)

218 see, I would think eating a whole garlic clove would just be over-whelming

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 06:03 PM (geLO8)

219 What's the point of sushi if it can't be sous vide'd?
Posted by: Walter Freeman

Anything served at room temperature is easy to sous vide. You don't even need a sous vide machine to do it.

Posted by: Science! at December 17, 2023 06:04 PM (DgGvY)

220 >>$2,400/month is a lot of money. I could easily feed seven people on that, and I don't think it would be particularly difficult.

Yup. For example, taught my teen son how to cook a burger, bought hamburger when it was on sale (like in a 2-3 lb pkg), then formed 1/4 lb patties and froze them. Of course, a quick omelet with some cheddar and deli ham or a grilled cheese are easy to stock ingredients for (except during that weird egg shortage) and cheaper/healthier than prepared freezer meals or fast food. Food is still a lot more expensive than it was 5 years ago, but poor decisions/poor planning can really cost you.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2023 06:04 PM (izj35)

221
This is totally unscientific but... my wife and I shop together at Aldi's. I shop the outside perimeter of the store, where the protein is. I have a good idea what is needed and what good prices are. Wife shops the 'inner aisles'. She was taking forever last trip so I 'cashed out' on my own. Now this is like three week supply of protein, maybe even more... $102.00 was my total.

She pulls up, I help unload. Her total was more then $150.00 shopping the inner aisles. I suspect she bought some junk food. Not my thing, hers. But she's like size 0-2 so what can I say?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 17, 2023 06:05 PM (enJYY)

222 Don Black, pizza place here adds whole roasted garlic cloves.
Superb.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:06 PM (YsgJW)

223 A recent kitchen win-win was creating a home-made pecan pancake mix for the grandkids ... The price is at least $6 now for a 16-ounce box of their favorite brand-named mix (when I can find it) ... My attempts (multiple) at creating a mix from scratch didn't turn out well at all ... So I compromised by starting with Krusteaz Buttermilk mix as the base (@ under $3 per 32-ounce box), then added a little sugar, chopped pecans, and several drops of Lorann Pecan super-strength flavoring ... This morning, my 5-year-old granddaughter declared, "Mom-Mom, these are delicious".

Posted by: Kathy at December 17, 2023 06:07 PM (LPNLk)

224 Don Black, pizza place here adds whole roasted garlic cloves.
Superb.
Posted by: Ben Had

I'll roast whole bulbs to use as a spread sometimes.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2023 06:07 PM (qoGsy)

225 But she's like size 0-2 so what can I say?
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Say: Honey, would you like some protein?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 06:07 PM (TkA04)

226 What's that? You want to make fun of Sous Vide? Yeah...I thought so. That is a very nicely cooked filet roast.

Three points:

1. No one here would make fun of Sous Vide. No one. Heck, it can be used to remove melted wax from menorahs!

2. That a fine piece of meat.

3. One can get the same results using only flame and a grill, as G*d intended us to cook meat. It's sad the East Coast has become so Francofied, a culture that can't even spell BBQ'ed brisket.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 17, 2023 06:07 PM (a3Q+t)

227 Mr Aspirin Factory

Slovak
Posted by: Ronster

Yes! A staple every Christmas Eve.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 17, 2023 06:08 PM (R4t5M)

228 And then, you can bake whole garlic heads. Take a large garlic head, trim off the top of the head to expose some or all of the cloves. Drizzle a little olive oil on top. Preheat the oven to 350F. Place the garlic head on a cookie sheet or casserole pan. Bake for about 20 minutes. Remove from the oven, let cool. Take the individual cloves and smoosh the contents (which now resembles butter) out and serve with either crackers or baguette slices. To economize, bake about a half dozen or so this way.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 06:08 PM (MeG8a)

229 Tonypete, I have found you can never have too much garlic.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:08 PM (YsgJW)

230 This morning, my 5-year-old granddaughter declared, "Mom-Mom, these are delicious".
Posted by: Kathy

I hope you replied "Mom-Mom doesn't make anything not good!"

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2023 06:08 PM (qoGsy)

231 149 Anyone here ever have one of those $400+ hams from Spain?

I have to believe they are fantastic.

I'll figure I've finally " made it" when I can buy it without guilt.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 17, 2023 05:22 PM (TzW+Y)
___[_

Yes. The Italian version too. Well, thin slices of it at very high end restaurants. Worth it for a splurge.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 06:09 PM (yO7Wd)

232 damn it, now I'm hungry. BBL

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 17, 2023 06:09 PM (xcxpd)

233 does roasting them sort of calm them down a little

milder maybe

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 06:09 PM (geLO8)

234 2400 a month just for food!! As Lizzo said above, she is probably relying on prepared/frozen foods and chips/cookies, etc. Those are fine once in a while, but they are empty calories that don't fill up the bottomless pits that are teenagers. She'd probably do better making three full meals and a homemade dessert every day to get the calories the kids need, and spend at least a third less than 2400. Hard work, but healthier, tastier and cheaper.

Posted by: Moki at December 17, 2023 06:10 PM (Cem4R)

235 Yes, baking them does make the garlic much milder.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 06:10 PM (MeG8a)

236 Finest silver from the north of Spain >>> those $400+ hams

Posted by: Brandy at December 17, 2023 06:11 PM (a3Q+t)

237 Oh good heavens, my stupid phone autocorrected Lizzy to Lizzo!!! My abject apologies!!!!!!

Posted by: Moki at December 17, 2023 06:11 PM (Cem4R)

238 A roasted garlic clove spread like butter over a piece of sourdough toast is a treat. Maybe a tiny pinch of salt and some fresh chopped rosemary.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 17, 2023 06:11 PM (YRsIm)

239 I like spiral cut hams fir convenience. I pack mustard between the slices and truss it up before putting it in the smoker. Maple syrup glaze most of the time. I set it in a roasting pan, flat side down and keep the bottom 3 slices hydrated.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf, on the tablet at December 17, 2023 06:11 PM (8C7+r)

240 @219: "You don't even need a sous vide machine to do it."

Fascinating! So maybe just hold a piece of sushi under a faucet or drop it into a glass of water for a few minutes? I can only imagine the incredible change in taste, texture, and nutritional value that awaits me.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 17, 2023 06:11 PM (yS+V1)

241 Hard work, but healthier, tastier and cheaper.

Posted by: Moki at December 17, 2023 06:10 PM (Cem4R)

Yes, but then she wouldn't be able to help her "community," and run for office, and be front-and-center for a bullsh*t article.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 06:11 PM (gSZYf)

242 Oh good heavens, my stupid phone autocorrected Lizzy to Lizzo!!!
Posted by: Moki at December 17, 2023 06:11 PM

That's quite a spread.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 17, 2023 06:13 PM (a3Q+t)

243 Moki, hello dear one

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:13 PM (YsgJW)

244 I like spiral cut hams fir convenience. I pack mustard between the slices and truss it up before putting it in the smoker. Maple syrup glaze most of the time. I set it in a roasting pan, flat side down and keep the bottom 3 slices hydrated.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf

When everyone is done noshing on the ham, what's left goes into a crockpot of beans for soup.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2023 06:14 PM (GIBR7)

245 this garlic spread thing sounds interesting- I cook for one, so when I buy a garlic bulb for some recipe, the rest often goes unused

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 06:14 PM (geLO8)

246 >>3. One can get the same results using only flame and a grill, as G*d intended us to cook meat. It's sad the East Coast has become so Francofied, a culture that can't even spell BBQ'ed brisket.

Easy, Batman. Not only can I spell it I can cook it.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 17, 2023 06:15 PM (ZLI7S)

247 Bah, tonight's Menu? Slow Roasted Pot Roast... Real Mashed Spuds and Pan dripping Gravy... Onion Green Beans...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2023 06:15 PM (xaFKb)

248 Ben Had!!! How are you my sweet friend??!!!!

Posted by: Moki at December 17, 2023 06:16 PM (Cem4R)

249 I'm going to shill for Sedona Divine. Their Tuscan Herb olive oil is amazing. You will throw the bread away and just drink it straight.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:16 PM (YsgJW)

250 153 The vast majority of knockoffs are too sweet and mainly intended to get girls drunk.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 05:07 PM (lb2PL)

This is true.

I have a friend who used to be a serious bartender, and when we went to his bar he would love to try to embarrass me with chick drinks. But everything he made was excellent, including the chocolate martinis and the cosmopolitans!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 05:24 PM (gSZYf)
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True. Don’t underestimate the value of a good bartender. It’s really a skill. I was a bartender back in the day at a very expensive mafia joint. I was 17. I knew nothing about bartending. But an old bartender showed me the ropes and how to make big tips from big-spending mafia guys looking to impress their goomies …

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 17, 2023 06:16 PM (yO7Wd)

251 Lol Duncanthrax!!

Posted by: Moki at December 17, 2023 06:17 PM (Cem4R)

252 Just ate some sous vide beef fajita's yesterday... so very tender.
I just finished making a tray of pot stickers and some green onion pie.
I also have to bake the sugar cookies i made earlier. BBL maybe.

I'm also looking at blue heeler puppies for some insane reason.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 17, 2023 06:17 PM (WT4dp)

253 Moki, life is wonderful here on the farm. How is Abner?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:18 PM (YsgJW)

254 This morning, my 5-year-old granddaughter declared, "Mom-Mom, these are delicious".
Posted by: Kathy at December 17, 2023 06:07 PM

Awww.....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 17, 2023 06:18 PM (Wnv9h)

255 I pack mustard between the slices and truss it up before putting it in the smoker...
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf
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Dry or wet mustard? I'd assume but you know what they say.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 17, 2023 06:18 PM (ju2Fy)

256 I thought The Honey Baked Ham Company was the one true ham source, but I haven't had their stuff in twenty years, so maybe times have changed.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 17, 2023 06:18 PM (u9uo0)

257 I figure we spend about $250 per week for food. There are 3 of us.
Then there's the booze budget.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 06:19 PM (MeG8a)

258 Just ate some sous vide beef fajita's yesterday... so very tender.
I just finished making a tray of pot stickers and some green onion pie.
I also have to bake the sugar cookies i made earlier. BBL maybe.

I'm also looking at blue heeler puppies for some insane reason.
Posted by: lin-duh at December 17, 2023 06:17 PM

That last one sounds delish. Recipe?

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at December 17, 2023 06:19 PM (Wnv9h)

259 @250: "But an old bartender showed me the ropes ..."

Sounds like no one ever shot you in the foot!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 17, 2023 06:20 PM (u9uo0)

260 It is nice to have the ability ility to do your own sushi, but it is so much work that it's just not any fun by the tome you finish.

It is hard tonfind good sushi in NY since the vud destroyed so many restaurants

Posted by: N at December 17, 2023 06:20 PM (j+0Fe)

261 lin-duh, how about a heeler/ border collie cross. Free to you.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:20 PM (YsgJW)

262 Was.napping over hour since last comment I looked at, time to start making pizza

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2023 06:21 PM (fwDg9)

263 >>Oh good heavens, my stupid phone autocorrected Lizzy to Lizzo!!! My abject apologies!!!!!!

Heh. Yikes, what an autocorrect, especially when discussing food consumption

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2023 06:21 PM (izj35)

264 The thing that is hardest about sushi is getting good fish

Posted by: N at December 17, 2023 06:22 PM (j+0Fe)

265 I make Hawaiian poke at home. Easier than sushi but cures the craving. Salmon makes great poke as well

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 17, 2023 06:24 PM (WF/xn)

266
As the (male) dinner cook of the household, if I'm not pulling the garlic press out of the drawer every night, it's kinda surprising. My guess is at least 3 or 4 nights a week at the very least.

I had a nasty mole on my shoulder a couple years back and I read an 'old wives tale' about adhering a garlic clove to it before going to bed. Needless to say I had an uneventful and unaccompanied nights sleep. Three days later I could not find the mole. My wife returned to the marital bed some time later that month.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 17, 2023 06:24 PM (enJYY)

267 I thought The Honey Baked Ham Company was the one true ham source, but I haven't had their stuff in twenty years, so maybe times have changed.
Posted by: Walter Freeman

The company my mom worked for had the security guard contract for them for all of their Dallas stores. The office crew each got a ham at Christmas. We had one every Christmas for a decade.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2023 06:24 PM (GIBR7)

268 There is a huge Japanese supermarket about 30 minutes from here

Mitsuwa?

Posted by: N at December 17, 2023 06:25 PM (j+0Fe)

269 Dry or wet mustard? I'd assume but you know what they say.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 17, 2023 06:18 PM

Have you, perchance, any Grey Poupon?

Posted by: That Guy in the Rolls Royce at December 17, 2023 06:25 PM (a3Q+t)

270 My wife returned to the marital bed some time later that month.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Come for the food thread, stay for the marital advice...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 06:26 PM (TkA04)

271 There used to be a couple Honey Baked Ham outlets near me but they all closed. I figure Costco was too much competition for them. Costco sells a pretty good spiral sliced ham.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 06:27 PM (MeG8a)

272 * sends hugs to AZ deplorable and Mrs.*

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:28 PM (YsgJW)

273
This is such a great time of year. You go into a room with a fifth of whiskey, close the door. If anyone tries to open the door just yell, "DON'T COME IN!".

They naturally assume you're wrapping presents. Not polishing off the fifth.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 17, 2023 06:29 PM (enJYY)

274 I read the instructions for cooking bacon to my wife, to which she/her, (pooped out babies, then chest fed,) responded, "except Muslims and Jews."

Is bacon ... antisemitic?

Posted by: Marooned at December 17, 2023 06:29 PM (kt8QE)

275 Fricks has the best ham around.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:30 PM (YsgJW)

276 Have you, perchance, any Grey Poupon?
Posted by: That Guy in the Rolls Royce at December 17, 2023 06:25 PM

But of course.

(actually have a friend with an antique Bentley, who kept a small jar in the glove box, just to be able to respond to some smartass who asked him that at a stop light)

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 17, 2023 06:30 PM (Wnv9h)

277 My wife returned to the marital bed some time later that month.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 17, 2023 06:24 PM

At which point you had make-up aioli?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 17, 2023 06:31 PM (a3Q+t)

278 >>She'd probably do better making three full meals and a homemade dessert every day to get the calories the kids need, and spend at least a third less than 2400. Hard work, but healthier, tastier and cheaper.

The other thing that works, though it's may not be popular here: having a set menu per week (or other increments). If you have predictable patterns (e.g. Wednesday dinner is pasta, Saturday is homemade pizza) it's easier to shop and in general, much faster as you spend time hunting down new ingredients or last-minute runs to the grocery. This is something that we do with my aging parents who are past the point of needing to be wowed or surprised by meals.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2023 06:31 PM (izj35)

279 RMBS, Is ground lamb acceptable in a gyro?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:32 PM (YsgJW)

280 RMBS, Is ground lamb acceptable in a gyro?

No

Posted by: N at December 17, 2023 06:35 PM (45LAp)

281 @278: Posted by: Lizzy at December 17, 2023 06:31 PM (izj35

My DIL does that. Works well with her 3 sons, plus they get to have input on the weekly menu and they also help out cooking.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 17, 2023 06:36 PM (8e0w3)

282 I figure we spend about $250 per week for food. There are 3 of us.
Then there's the booze budget.
Posted by: gourmand du jour'

Since I am On The Job, so to speak, I mostly just buy food for the house and don't ask the Kid for repayment as I'd prefer to do the shopping etc. Probably for me, USD$200@month. About that. The Kid, added, from what I am okay with paying and she doesn't order for herself delivered, probably another USD$100. So about USD$300/month for an older adult male and 20-ish female.
Now, my alcohol budget.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:37 PM (/BBNv)

283 The best gyros have mutt on.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at December 17, 2023 06:37 PM (a3Q+t)

284 It is hard tonfind good sushi in NY since the vud destroyed so many restaurants

Posted by: N at December 17, 2023 06:20 PM (j+0Fe)

There is a Los Angeles chain that moved into NYC a few years ago, and they are probably the best reasonably priced in the city.

SugarFish.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 06:38 PM (gSZYf)

285 Probably once-every-two-weeks to Dollar (1.25) Tree, to spend maybe USD$50. That gets you a literal cartload of groceries.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:39 PM (/BBNv)

286 The less processed food you buy the lower will be your grocery bill. Anything frozen, or if it comes in a box, or a carton or a can, while convenient, increases your bill. Convenience isn't cheap.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 06:39 PM (MeG8a)

287 RMBS, Is ground lamb acceptable in a gyro?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:32 PM

I'll issue a temporary Hellenic-American indulgence, but this looks worth trying:

https://tinyurl.com/5dc5354m

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 17, 2023 06:39 PM (Wnv9h)

288 Sugarfish…

That’s my NYC kid’s go to. If I visit he suggests less reasonable venues for us to buy him dinner.

Posted by: Pete Bog at December 17, 2023 06:42 PM (3iu+6)

289
My wife spent some time being the Director of the front of the house at an Assisted Living facility. The Director of food purchasing at the facility, which was charging the residents in the neighborhood of eight thousand dollars a month told her he had a food budget of less then five dollars a day per resident. With Bidenomics that number might be seven dollars a day now.

It can be done, when it has to be done.

/ Thanks for thread CBD, time to stream some stuff.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 17, 2023 06:42 PM (enJYY)

290 * sends hugs to AZ deplorable and Mrs.*
Posted by: Ben Had

Takes one and passes the other along and then passes 2 back.
Thank you!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 06:42 PM (TkA04)

291 I'm always stupefied at Dollar Tree at the obviously poor people spending absurd not-aid-related-money on parties. Kids' birthday parties mostly.
Balloons, plates, plastic forks, giveaway toys, just the most wasteful shit. It's a constant. Parties and get-togethers.
Dude, Woman, you don't even fucking work, make something for the party.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:42 PM (/BBNv)

292 I used to do deep sea fishing (a friend owned the boat). Deep sea fisherman will catch a fish, post a picture of it to a web site and bids will start coming in over the satellite phone. It's an amazing market.
I think JJ posted a picture of me catching a blue marlin on a hobby thread a while back.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 06:43 PM (MeG8a)

293 Wow, that's a pretty fkn large margin of error.... so I should take a little hanger scale to the grocery with me??
Posted by: Helena Handbasket'

Take it to the produce department and put it in those scales. It's becoming a SERIOUS problem. A 20-25% variance is a SERIOUS issue.

I've busted a large regional chain with always making mistakes in THEIR favor. Should file a complaint but I'm sure I'd just get fucked over one way or another.

Posted by: NC Ref at December 17, 2023 06:45 PM (8M3r5)

294 Dude, Woman, you don't even fucking work, make something for the party.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:42 PM (/BBNv)

Hood Rats don't know about making anything except chirruns, blunts and a Taco Bell run.

The Dollar Store is manna from heaven for these savages.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 17, 2023 06:45 PM (R/m4+)

295 Sushi rice is easy - first get sushi rice. Not calrose, jasmine, wild, or instant. Your asian market will have a short grain variety in bags labeled 'sushi rice'. Follow Japanese cooking instruction on net. May require translator.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 17, 2023 06:45 PM (cOq4q)

296 I think JJ posted a picture of me catching a blue marlin on a hobby thread a while back.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Saw that pic and was jealous.
My brother just posted pictures of red snapper he caught off the Santa Barbara channel islands today. I'm jealous of him too!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 06:45 PM (TkA04)

297 if it comes in a box, or a carton or a can, while convenient, increases your bill. Convenience isn't cheap.
Posted by: gourmand du jour'

Over time this is not true. Canned will end up being less expensive every time. Boxed, not necessarily. But mostly. If you buy when it's low or on sale and have the space and can stand to eat it all the time, it's cheaper.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:45 PM (/BBNv)

298 3 The bacon package is right.

Also, real Americans save their bacon grease.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 17, 2023 04:03 PM (llON

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There's the funny story of a Southerner Moves North, with snow, snow-plow, etc. There's also one about a Northener moves South and one of the lines is: 'Save your bacon grease. Someone will tell you what to do with it.'

Posted by: Ciampino - Grease the wagon wheels? at December 17, 2023 06:48 PM (qfLjt)

299 An odd local thing here is the number of "Thai Sushi" restaurants. This is like a having a bunch of "Italian Borsht" restaurants.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 17, 2023 06:48 PM (cOq4q)

300 Allen Benton, in TN, is the guy who processes my sister's Ossabaw hams.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2023 06:48 PM (rj6Yv)

301 We knocked down an entire pallet of peanut butter once. It came in outdated. I bought three cases of it and I swear after a few months I could not even smell peanut butter without feeling sick.
Also another episode with markdown French-cut green beans. Ugh. After a while unless you are genuinely starving it is just not edible. Human beings need variety, at least emotionally.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:48 PM (/BBNv)

302 USD$300/month for an older adult male and 20-ish female.
Now, my alcohol budget.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:37 PM (/BBNv)

Hell, my food budget, just for meself... is closer to $400 a month.

But then, I eat well.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2023 06:48 PM (xaFKb)

303 If I visit he suggests less reasonable venues for us to buy him dinner.

Posted by: Pete Bog at December 17, 2023 06:42 PM (3iu+6)

Smart kid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 06:49 PM (gSZYf)

304 CBD, thank you. The food thread is a happy place.
.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:49 PM (YsgJW)

305 Oops. Allan Benton.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2023 06:50 PM (rj6Yv)

306 You ever want to HATE food? I mean, really hate it, in a visceral, nasty way? Like an enemy?

Go work at a supermarket for a few decades.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:50 PM (/BBNv)

307 The best gyros have mutt on.
Posted by: Barry Soetoro

A golden retriever/ lab mix. *chef's kiss*

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2023 06:50 PM (GIBR7)

308 Allen Benton, in TN, is the guy who processes my sister's Ossabaw hams.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2023 06:48 PM (rj6Yv)

That is a serious smokehouse. A lot of people consider him the best in America.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 06:50 PM (gSZYf)

309
Hell, my food budget, just for meself... is closer to $400 a month.

But then, I eat well.
Posted by: Romeo13

And then again you live in California!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 06:50 PM (TkA04)

310 >> I used to do deep sea fishing (a friend owned the boat). Deep sea fisherman will catch a fish, post a picture of it to a web site and bids will start coming in over the satellite phone. It's an amazing market.

Pretty common around here. And the Japanese buyers drive prices up.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 17, 2023 06:50 PM (ZLI7S)

311 CBD, thank you. The food thread is a happy place.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:49 PM (YsgJW)

My pleasure young lady!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 06:51 PM (gSZYf)

312 And first time in a long time didn't get enough corn meal on the peel and it stuck, no longer a round pizza

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2023 06:51 PM (fwDg9)

313 CBD. Thanks for the food thread. I don’t cook a lot but this is always a fun venue and I usually learn a few things.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 17, 2023 06:52 PM (8e0w3)

314 Okay folks...I'm off to make dinner. But first a cocktail...probably a dry Martini with either Fords Gin or Plymouth Gin.

Decisions...decisions...

Cheers, and thanks for reading and commenting!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 06:52 PM (gSZYf)

315 >>>@ 230 I hope you replied "Mom-Mom doesn't make anything not good!" Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2023 06:08 PM (qoGsy)
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HaHa ... Oh, I couldn't ever say that, as I make a conscious effort to never lie ... And earlier this month I had a major OOPS preparing cookies ... The cookies were for a family swap, and they were the "snowball" type covered in powdered sugar which I've made for decades ... Well, I measured out all the ingredients to make a batch-and-a-half EXCEPT for the flour which I measured out as only a single batch quantity ... The dough rolled fine but, once the heat from the oven hit the balls, they immediately flattened and merged together with all the dough on the baking sheet ... I had a good laugh at myself -- and took a photo to share as a reminder that we're all human.

Posted by: Kathy at December 17, 2023 06:52 PM (LPNLk)

316 26 one more thing:

Last night I mixed up a Dirty Russian. Normally this is done with chocolate milk, but I used reg milk and Hershey's Special Dark chocolate syrup. The resultant cocktail was delicious, after which I fell asleep for 3 hours.

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 04:13 PM (geLO

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I like 44 oz cocktails too!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 17, 2023 06:52 PM (KuFdU)

317 Always a good time CBD!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 06:53 PM (TkA04)

318 We have been blessed here with bluefin hanging around every year

I 100 lber lasts a long time with many meals. They are hard on your body catching them, but fun

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 17, 2023 06:54 PM (WF/xn)

319 That is a serious smokehouse. A lot of people consider him the best in America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 17, 2023 06:50 PM (gSZYf)

From personal experience, I can attest that matching the best pork with the best smokehouse makes for a mighty fine country ham.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2023 06:54 PM (rj6Yv)

320 We have been blessed here with bluefin hanging around every year

I 100 lber lasts a long time with many meals. They are hard on your body catching them, but fun
Posted by: Hatari

1100 lb?
Yeah, that would last!
I'm surprised you didn't sell half.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 06:55 PM (TkA04)

321 I've busted a large regional chain with always making mistakes in THEIR favor. Should file a complaint but I'm sure I'd just get fucked over one way or another.
Posted by: NC Ref'

Depends on the product. I refer to prepackaged product shipped to us that we stock onto the shelves. We cannot check every single fucking bag for fractions of an ounce but I'm now seeing wild variations, up to 1-2 ounces in 9-14 ounce bags. I did not see that before. Your complaint is noted but you do not describe what sort of weighing issue there was or is. Checkout lane scales? that is a State issue and nothing like what I am discussing here. Otherwise your complaint is nonspecific and there is no way to tell if you're just a crank.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:56 PM (/BBNv)

322 Sorry, I meant 100 lber

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 17, 2023 06:56 PM (WF/xn)

323 In my area, the canned stuff is very expensive
I've always bought a lot of canned food but I had to cut back because the things I bought for a dollar a can are now three dollars a can. Soups especially.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 06:56 PM (MeG8a)

324 For the Xanadu of smoked-cured bacon and ham:

Coursey's

https://tinyurl.com/mr28fcrc

Posted by: Billy the Mountain at December 17, 2023 06:56 PM (9TjK8)

325 I meant 100 lber
Posted by: Hatari

I'd love to hook a 100 lber!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2023 06:58 PM (TkA04)

326 CBD, you know I passed young many years ago!

Posted by: Ben Had at December 17, 2023 06:58 PM (DT+zb)

327 >> I used to do deep sea fishing (a friend owned the boat). Deep sea fisherman will catch a fish, post a picture of it to a web site and bids will start coming in over the satellite phone. It's an amazing market.

My buddy does that with bourbon. I buy bourbon cuz I like to drink it. He buys super expensive stuff and takes selfies with it.
Also he's gotten some super good deals too

Posted by: NC Ref at December 17, 2023 06:58 PM (8M3r5)

328 In my area, the canned stuff is very expensive
I've always bought a lot of canned food but I had to cut back because the things I bought for a dollar a can are now three dollars a can. Soups especially.
Posted by: gourmand du jour'

??? Here a can of soup store-brand is 79 cents, a can of green beans is 69 cents. Where do you live that any staple in a can costs three dollars?

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 06:59 PM (/BBNv)

329 Oh, and anybody saying 'My canned food costs USD$3 for a can of store-brand chicken soup because I live in San Francisco" well I'm not at all sympathetic.
Alaska, I can see. But Coastal?

No.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 17, 2023 07:02 PM (/BBNv)

330 >>We have been blessed here with bluefin hanging around every year

We get the whole spectrum thanks to the Gulf Stream. In late August through September we get schools of yellowfin just offshore. They are a blast to catch.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 17, 2023 07:03 PM (ZLI7S)

331 Gun thread is now open.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2023 07:05 PM (GIBR7)

332 Do you know the painting with the melting clock face?
That's my pizza

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2023 07:05 PM (fwDg9)

333 I have to pick up a ham tomorrow for the Christmas feast. You all are giving me some insights. I already knew to avoid Smithfield; too much added water since CCP bought it.

I've kept the weekly grocery bill under $35 by hitting the last-chance items. Got a bag of pre-shredded bag of carrots and cabbage for $1.25 and used it in a soup. Also got four bruised apples for 99 cents and baked them for desserts this week.

I have to agree with Elric Blade about paying for other people's food. In Michigan ALL students have free school meals. Somehow, that hasn't made a difference in budgeting for necessities.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 17, 2023 07:07 PM (YJlID)

334 Ben, we are in our new house, and he is a happy happy dog!! Does not like cross country moves!!!! He also encountered armadillos and bobcats when we stayed in a mountain cabin for a couple of weeks- he and the bobcat scared each other, but the armadillos had absolutely no fear of this 140 pound dog!

Posted by: Moki at December 17, 2023 07:07 PM (Cem4R)

335 >Gun thread is now open.

Posted by: rickb223

then you wont mid BUF 31 DAL 10 FINAL

Posted by: Don Black at December 17, 2023 07:11 PM (geLO8)

336 >>>I already knew to avoid Smithfield; too much added water since CCP bought it.
~~~~~

And Cook's Ham is owned by Smithfield.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 17, 2023 07:12 PM (vvLxk)

337 already knew to avoid Smithfield; too much added water since CCP bought it.
~~~~~

And Cook's Ham is owned by Smithfield.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 17, 2023 07:12 PM

I haven't seen that brand. Yet.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 17, 2023 07:17 PM (YJlID)

338 There used to be a couple Honey Baked Ham outlets near me but they all closed. I figure Costco was too much competition for them. Costco sells a pretty good spiral sliced ham.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 17, 2023 06:27 PM

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We used to get HBH 20-30 years ago when they had a monopoly on spiral sliced hams. It was relatively expensive but a nice treat. Now they're charging $20 a pound, and it isn't really any better than any number of much less costly spiral hams.

Posted by: Bigsmith at December 17, 2023 07:40 PM (CHQr+)

339 I find Walmart/Sam's Club hams are serviceable, with proper care.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf, on the tablet at December 17, 2023 08:06 PM (8C7+r)

340 Question for the Horde...
Hot sauce, In Particular GREEN hot sauce.
I had some Green McIllhenny Tabasco when it 1st came out in Lousiana, before National release...LOVED it. But since then they have changed the formula, it's not as good. I always have some green Cholula around, but the bottle is getting low and today at the Kroger I noticed there is now about a dozen different/new green sauces.
Recommendations for another brand?
What/Why that one?

Posted by: birddog at December 17, 2023 10:27 PM (sYlnp)

341 Hoѡdy! I could have sworn I've visited this blog before but after going througһ a
few of the articles I realized it's new to me.

Regardleѕs, I'm definitely happy I found it and I'll be bookmarking it and
checking back regularly!

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