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Tomatoes can grow up to 1 pound, with ranges from 10 to 18 ozs. Indeterminate. 75-80 days. Slime moulds don't only look fascinating, they're also much smarter than you'd expect! . . Some slime moulds create efficient paths between food sources by imitating leaf veins - or railway networks, for that matter. In 2010, Japanese and British researchers fed a slime mould nutrients mimicking the Tokyo subway's nodes, resulting in a network resembling the actual system. . . Image courtesy of Sarah Lloyd / @sarah.lloyd.tasmaniaThe naturalist who took the photos above, Sarah Lloyd, is a specialist. See the piece linked above. ". . . Japanese and British researchers fed a slime mould nutrients mimicking the Tokyo subway's nodes?????" I feel a movie script coming on. Godzilla was mentioned here twice yesterday. Tokyo Subway . . . Oh, Wait! A movie character based on a slime mold has already been introduced! When all is well, the slime mold thrives as a single-celled organism, but when food is scarce, it combines forces with its brethren, and grows. Starving amoebas work in tandem, signaling to each other to join and form a multicellular mass, like a "moving sausage," Spiegel said. Then, once the mass is formed, the cells reconfigure, changing their shape and function to form stalks, which produce bulbs called fruiting bodies. The fruiting bodies contain millions of spores, which get picked up and transported by the wind, a passing insect or an animal. There, they start the process again as single-celled organisms. Meanwhile, the cells that formed the stalks die, sacrificing themselves. For creatures without feet, they can travel incredible distances. Stephenson said one of his students identified slime molds in New Zealand that are genetically identical to groups found in the United States. How they got there is unknown. Slime molds were likely an inspiration for the 1958 science-fiction film, "The Blob," scientists say. And it's in these plasmodial, "blob" states that they spread like highway networks and even solve mazes.I put the movie reference in italics there. Got a new script idea to present? Jerry the lab pet slime mold solves a maze as a single cell. Video. How did Jerry do that? Longer video featuring another slime mold (not Jerry). Frederick Spiegel, a biology professor at the University of Arkansas and an expert on slime molds. . "I thought they were the most beautiful, sublime things I'd ever seen," he said. "I said, 'I've got to work with these.'" They come in every color of the rainbow, except -- due to lacking chlorophyll -- a true green, according to Steve Stephenson, professor of biology at the University of Arkansas. They form strange and sophisticated shapes - some resemble honeycomb lattices, others blackberries. And then there's the slime mold known as "dog vomit," because it looks just like the stuff. Some remain microscopic, and others grow rogue, forming bulbous masses, as long as 10 to 13 feet. Yet humans largely ignore them.More Science: Slime mold, any of about 500 species of primitive organisms containing true nuclei and resembling both protozoan protists and fungi. The term slime mold embraces a heterogeneous assemblage of organisms whose juxtaposition reflects a historical confusion between superficial resemblances and actual relationships. The Myxomycetes (true slime molds) are characterized by a plasmodial stage and definite fruiting bodies. Other slime molds include Protostelia (minute, simple slime molds), Acrasia (cellular slime molds), Plasmodiophorina (parasitic slime molds), and Labyrinthulina (net slime molds). Slime molds are found worldwide and typically thrive in dark, cool, moist conditions such as prevail on forest floors. Bacteria, yeast, molds, and fungi provide the main source of slime mold nutrition, although the Plasmodiophorina feed parasitically on the roots of cabbage and other mustard-family plants.We are not even really covering the false slime molds here. The world is so complex. Slime molds in the Garden Slime molds are not dangerous, but in the lawn large persistent molds can leave grass yellow because it reduces sunlight to the blades. The grass recovers after the mold has turned to spore. Getting Rid of Slime Mold There is no doubt that slime mold is unattractive. Anything that closely resembles vomit in the garden is an uncomfortable sight. However, since slime molds in garden mulch or other areas are not harmful, removal is not necessary. For this reason, slime mold control with chemicals is more trouble than it is worth. Few chemicals can permanently kill the organism and toxic applications may even be detrimental to other life around the mold. Slime molds thrive where conditions are moist, so the easiest way to remove it is to let the area dry out. Rake up slime molds in garden mulch to expose the organism to drying air. You can also just scrape up the stuff, but likely it will be back. Some molds have been known to come back in the same spot, year after year.More photos and descriptions of slime molds, beyond the typical dog vomit or scrambled egg types: Chocolate Tube, Pretzel, Red Raspberry. Puttering Hope everyone has a nice weekend. If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is: ktinthegarden at g mail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker. Week in Review What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Nov. 25 Any thoughts or questions? 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Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 01:41 PM (fwDg9) 2
Potato mashers--we use a wire one, the one that looks like the King Ranch Brand. Works great. I never used one growing up because my mom always used a hand-held mixer. The masher is my husband's contribution, of which I thoroughly approve.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 02, 2023 01:42 PM (FEVMW) 3
We use a squiggly heavy wire-type masher. The one in the meme looks like a giant pastry cutter to me.
Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 01:44 PM (rrtZS) 4
That enchant Christmas looks amazing!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 01:45 PM (S6gqv) 5
The last frost killed my h I t peppers a few days ago, but got 1 more chile pepper and a small mariachi pepper.
And today in between collecting leaves had a Hawk within 20 feet trying to get away with a dead squirrel but the shock flew off without it. So finished up and left outside but just checked it came back at least it was gone. Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 01:46 PM (fwDg9) 6
Phytophthera, or "damping off" disease is a water mold.
Mostly only saw it on rhodies and azaleas, until everyone started to pile mulch on the stems of everything. Now we see it a lot. Can't be cured. Stays in the soil. CAN be abated, by keeping stems dry. Dunno how it fits in with slime molds. Do see dog vomit mold often. Posted by: MkY at December 02, 2023 01:48 PM (cPGH3) Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2023 01:48 PM (aQy7p) 8
I still have the back quarter to try and get most of the leaves in the compost bin. If it didn't rain I would work on them, it's 59 degrees out, but wet leaves are heavy, don't blow well.
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 01:49 PM (fwDg9) 9
One more thing... the goal around these here parts is to have the first tomato of the summer, and the last tomato in the fall.
I believe we won the latter. Still have a few ripening in the root cellar. Posted by: MkY at December 02, 2023 01:50 PM (cPGH3) 10
K.T.; thanks for the great gardening thread and for your work on this. Those tomatoes look great but its winter here. No ‘maters.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 02, 2023 01:51 PM (N6UT3) 11
Growing some spinach indoors but it is really, really slow. Even with a southern exposure and at least six good hours of sunshine they're barely creeping along. It's an experiment and sometimes they work, sometimes not so much. Probably will eat the last home grown tomato some time this week. Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 02:00 PM (enJYY) 12
For some reason, I think potatoes mashed with a masher (with butter and milk) taste better than potatoes mashed with a ricer or mixer.
Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 02:01 PM (rrtZS) 13
The "pumpkin" in my garden photo is really a squash, related to butternuts. Easily hosts black widow spiders in a little hollow at the bottom of the fruit.
Of course, all pumpkins are squashes. But the one pictured is tasty. The French use its relatives for soup. Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 02:04 PM (rrtZS) 14
How to get your Christmas Cactus to bloom:
Live in AZ Keep on North facing porch protected from Sun Put an ice cube on soil once a week to water That is all. Posted by: epador at December 02, 2023 02:11 PM (Mxk3h) 15
I had my first apartment when I was about twenty. I bought instant potatoes in the box always because it was just me and quick and easy to do. I got invited to dinner at my girlfriends house and their mashed potatoes were so good so I asked, "What brand are these?" Everyone laughed, as they were kinda poor and a really big Irish family that probably bought potatoes by the wheelbarrow load. My wife makes better mashed potatoes then I do and she uses a hand thingamabob to smash them, while I use a mixer and some portion always escape my attempts. I discovered that if you do something poorly your mate will step up and you'll never have to mash potatoes again. Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 02:13 PM (enJYY) 16
Potato masher is a potato ricer. You put boiled taters in a can with holes, then your hand powered plunger makes the potato squirt out the holes.
It came from Dad's side, so I've always taken it to be pure New Hampshire. Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 02, 2023 02:17 PM (CnLzB) 17
From Boise area: lows 19-30, highs 36-39. First snow fell late Thursday, and continued through Friday. Temps will be warming this week, and rain is predicted for Sun.-Mon., so snow will go bye-bye.
Leaves continue to be tossed in trash, especially now that they're wet - bagging wet leaves is not fun. We took the net off the strawberry bed - last year, we discovered the hard way that heavy snow will weight it down and poke the corner posts right through the netting. We're thinking about removing the wild rose part of the windbreak hedges - they're spreading by underground runners and we haven't been able to control them. We now have a decently large windbreak on that side, from the blue spruces and chokecherry trees. So, do we need to replace the hedge with something else, or not? If we do, what do we plant? Fruit trees are a bad bet, since that's where we found the stumps of dead fruit trees. We know nothing about whether nut trees would survive here. Are there other types of food-producing trees we could get? This will take some thought... Posted by: Pat* at December 02, 2023 02:19 PM (y4ng/) 18
SnailRacer sent me an educational link about Thanksgiving and Christmas cactus. According to that information, the above cactus is a Thanksgiving cactus.
https://desertsucculents.com/christmas-cactus- vs-thanksgiving-cactus-vs-easter-cactus/ Posted by: Emmie at December 02, 2023 02:20 PM (Sf2cq) 19
Good afternoon fellow garden enthusiasts.
Funny about that top picture. I was planning on sending you a picture of my hoist as cactus which blooms at Thanksgiving and Easter. I read somewhere that there are actually two varieties which do bloom at different times of the year. The picture is not as prolific as the one above but it is pretty. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 02, 2023 02:24 PM (t/2Uw) 20
Okay, I posted before I read the comments but it looks like snail racer beat me to it.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 02, 2023 02:27 PM (t/2Uw) 21
hiya
Posted by: JT at December 02, 2023 02:28 PM (T4tVD) 22
We've had a Christmas cactus for about two decades now. It seems to me that if you pretty much ignore it all year but give it a fertilizer spike in the fall you can control when it blooms to some degree. Some years it has been deep red, other years white, this year it bloomed at Thanksgiving and has some very soft pink pedals. It still has a lot of blooming to do so should be perfect in three weeks. Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 02:30 PM (enJYY) 23
Leftover mashed taters means lease on the way
Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at December 02, 2023 02:31 PM (zC17c) Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at December 02, 2023 02:33 PM (zC17c) 25
How about elderberries? Might get tall for a hedge but are hardy.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 02, 2023 02:33 PM (t0dV9) 26
I bought a couple of annual hyacinths in the fall with the idea that maybe they would make it through the winter here. One seemed to do great and brought the other inside when it wilted. The one I brought inside did not recover so stuck it back out. Noticed that the spring bulbs I planted around the edges of the pots are poking their heads up.
How can this be? The weather here is so weird, 35 two days ago, 60 today, that plants don't know what the hell they are supposed to do. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 02, 2023 02:36 PM (t/2Uw) 27
I have an orange coneflower that just bloomed next to the pond. It's hidden amongst the pineapple mint. Seriously. It simply appeared a couple of days ago and just bloomed yesterday.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 02, 2023 02:40 PM (YRsIm) 28
Nebraska is being Nebraska. Everything is dead and brown and the sun has apparently forgotten we exist. Last weekend, we had about an inch of snow that covered a lot of sins. Sadly it was all gone the next day. I don't see more than a speck of precipitation in one form or another in the long range forecast.
Nothing growing because we don't have a balcony or patio. The apartment complex does provide a gardening space. I put a sunshine coreopsis in a corner of my box, so I've got my fingers crossed that it will actua!ly survive the winter. And since I planted several marigolds, with any luck, they'll self seed. My experience is that once you plant a couple of marigolds, they are your friend for life. I'd almost classify them as weeds except I like their colors and their smell. Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at December 02, 2023 02:40 PM (6TzTY) 29
We've got some Christmas cacti that are so old we can't even remember the year we got them. They bloom right on time.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 02:44 PM (MeG8a) 30
Potato masher goes in the utility crock. Because it is never fun to not be able to open the drawer.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 02, 2023 02:46 PM (olroh) 31
I has to smile at that gorgeous top photo. We have two Christmas cacti in bloom and while the flowers are lovely the plants are tiny. I got them for twenty five cents apiece about 20 or so years ago. They have never gotten bigger or put out new growth. But they don't die either. They just continue. Maybe they are caught in some repeating time loop. I would love to try to propagate new plants from them but I'm afraid their few leaves can't be spared. I may just plunk down another two bits to get a test case.
Posted by: JTB at December 02, 2023 02:52 PM (7EjX1) 32
I like a little texture in my mashed potatoes. It's one of those with the square holes that my mom bought when I was a little kid. The grips are broken, but it still mashes.
Posted by: huerfano at December 02, 2023 02:53 PM (Q4KYm) 33
The potato masher is one of the sacred items for Annoya, the goddess of stuck drawers and other minor aggravating contretemps of life. Other ritual items are the spring-loaded tongs and large ladles with the integral hook on the end of the handle.
Um, I actually use a pastry blender for making mashed potatoes, since I like lumps Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 02:54 PM (D7oie) 34
There must be some synergy involved with mashed potatoes. Something something with done-ness, temperature, ingredients proportions etc. They are always good, but I remember making them one time, and right before my eyes they sort of metamorphosed into the fluffy goodness we all know and love. It only takes a few seconds of mashing and they are done. Not sure what the catalyst is for perfection, but it’s pretty cool.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 02, 2023 02:57 PM (l8IOH) 35
Mashed potatoes are simply butter, cream, and garlic delivery devices. Salt to taste. Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 02:59 PM (enJYY) 36
My ex-wife is a Master Gardener, and she was often found asking people if she could take their fallen leaves. which she then used in compost and mulch. I can remember her minivan packed with black plastic bags full of leaves.
Posted by: ruralcounsel at December 02, 2023 03:01 PM (diMhW) 37
Well yes, and a shitload of carbohydrates and/or calories. Probably worse than sugar.
They are actually pretty good source of certain key minerals and vitamins. Posted by: Common Tater at December 02, 2023 03:02 PM (l8IOH) 38
My leaves amount to truck loads
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 03:06 PM (fwDg9) 39
Anyone know how to prune a fig tree? I have a mature specimen that has not been cut back in several years.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 02, 2023 03:06 PM (YRsIm) 40
Mashed potatoes need a judicious touch for liquid, too much and it gets gluey. Over mixing can make it gluey too. I save back the water they were boiled in and I have used a touch of that to make it moister. You can use milk instead, but I was always told the milk has to be warm or else the potatoes don't come out right and can look grey-ish. I like a tablespoon of greek yogurt for creaminess, but not everyone likes the flavor.
The left over potato water can be used in making bread, I use it for the two cups of liquid when I set my sponge over night. The potato starch makes the bread softer as well as making the yeast more lively. I am still on my multi-year drive to grow good potatoes. Water, Sun and fertilizer are all important. So far my favorites are Yukon and German Yellow potatoes. Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 03:07 PM (D7oie) 41
Normally I compost my leaves, I have four bigleaf maples along the street. This year I mulched my garlic bed as deep as I dared, and then with the left overs I mulched parts of the other gardens.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 03:10 PM (D7oie) 42
Der Stielhandgranate* is just the ticket for making Instant Mashed Potatoes, a whole 50 lb. bag at a time.
* WWI & WWII German "Stick Grenade", commonly known as a "Potato Masher", due to it's form resembling such a tool. If you find one stuck in your kitchen drawer, do NOT pull the string. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at December 02, 2023 03:13 PM (e6UQI) 43
I guess my day's activities so far can be described as "puttering". Making room in the big shop to put away a car that is outside, and shouldn't be. Got stuff shifted around, tires aired up, and the floor swept. There is now a car-sized slot next to the hoist that can be filled, and not hinder working on the car on the hoist. One more car remains outside, but when the time comes for me to migrate South, it can be driven in under the one on the hoist, and then the six by eight foot rolling table can roll up the ramp, and set between the hoist and the door. Everything shipshape for the Winter. And the snowblower will go in the heated garage.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 03:13 PM (nLpcZ) 44
Anyone know how to prune a fig tree? I have a mature specimen that has not been cut back in several years.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead I found this: https://is.gd/UYJud0 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 02, 2023 03:15 PM (vcYfq) 45
The left over potato water can be used in making bread snip The potato starch makes the bread softer as well as making the yeast more lively. Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 03:07 PM Interesting, I'm gonna try this for my pizza dough. After I pour my 100 degree water into the yeast and put it into the microwave set to 'Bake' at 100 degrees for 20 minutes I like to see an orgy of foam on top. I find it comforting to imagine all that CO2 spilling into the atmosphere and warming my part of the planet this winter. The tears of Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg replenish my mortal soul. Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 03:15 PM (enJYY) 46
My friend, the professor of mycology informs me, that fungi have the most unidentified species of anything on earth. The vast majority of species are unknown.. he has named quite a few. Including one that looks like an erect penis, which she named after his best friend.. phallus Drewsi.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 03:15 PM (FKWyz) 47
I wish my Christmas cactus looked that good!
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Anyone know how to prune a fig tree? I have a mature specimen that has not been cut back in several years.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 02, 2023 03:06 PM (YRsIm) Prune one? No... Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at December 02, 2023 03:27 PM (nLpcZ) 51
Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg - I mean, why does she get so many names? Doesn't she realize there are starving children in Africa with only one name? Who will go hungry tonight because of her reprehensible Swedish naming privilege! / Maybe just a tiny smidgen of a little bit off topic in a gardening thread. Sorry KT. I've tried to be better but it doesn't 'take'. Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 03:32 PM (enJYY) 52
There must be some synergy involved with mashed potatoes. Something something with done-ness, temperature, ingredients proportions etc. They are always good, but I remember making them one time, and right before my eyes they sort of metamorphosed into the fluffy goodness we all know and love. It only takes a few seconds of mashing and they are done. Not sure what the catalyst is for perfection, but it’s pretty cool.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 02, 2023 02:57 PM (l8IOH) It requires an uncommon tater. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 03:41 PM (NwuoC) 53
CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 02, 2023 03:06 PM
Proceed carefully with pruning old fig trees. The Sunset Western Garden Book may still have directions. Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 03:41 PM (rrtZS) 54
huerfano at December 02, 2023 02:53 PM
I have one of those masher with the square holes, but the squigly ones don't take as much force when mashing. You can leave the potatoes kinda lumpy if you like. Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 03:47 PM (rrtZS) 55
Thanks KT!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 02, 2023 03:58 PM (YRsIm) 56
Kindltot at December 02, 2023 03:07 PM
Pup the milk in the pan with the potatoes after you drain the water out, and let it warm up before you start mashing the potatoes. I have used a pastry cutter to mash potatoes, too. Works pretty much like the squiggly masher. Just takes longer. Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 04:03 PM (rrtZS) Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 04:04 PM (rrtZS) 58
Potato smashers that look like heating coils are best.
Posted by: Eromero at December 02, 2023 04:10 PM (+GW0+) 59
Goose on the moose!
Both great eatin'!!! Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 04:46 PM (uSHSS) 60
Moose On The Loose?
Posted by: geewhiz at December 02, 2023 04:49 PM (65K9+) 61
36 ruralcounsel, we've already put piles and piles of our best compostable leaves (maples and sweet gum) into our leaf cages, to be mixed with grass and turned into compost next year. It's just we have so MANY leaves that trying to save them all for compost, exceeds what we can mix with grass each year. (Also, sycamore leaves suck - they take way longer to break down than anything else, so we just get rid of those.)
Posted by: Pat* at December 02, 2023 06:40 PM (y4ng/) 62
Nitrogen is the accelerant in compost.
Green grass... green almost anything. Moisture, too. It also helps to turn it every so often. Here endeth the lesson. Posted by: MkY at December 02, 2023 07:48 PM (cPGH3) 63
39 Anyone know how to prune a fig tree? I have a mature specimen that has not been cut back in several years.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead --------------- Early figs come off the last year's growth. Later figs off the Spring growth. If you prune off all the young branches it will not give that first crop. (I have heard that the first crop is not as tasty. I find that they are fine but very early figs - ones that started budding out in the fall - are bland and not so good.) This also varies with region and species though, I am talking about what is most common around me. Other than that, I find that fig are extremely tolerant of pruning. Just cut of what you don't like. I see people pollarding them and they do fine. But best to look around you and see what other people with them do in your region. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 02, 2023 08:43 PM (de7jY) 64
I should add that all the usual rules about pruning apply - eliminate branches that shoot straight up, eliminate branches that cross or point inward, eliminate anything too close or that looks structurally weak or unsound, etc. Most fruit trees you prune into an open vase shape (so like a lilly pointing up) and eliminate anything that does not work to that shape. You usually try to keep the center open for airflow and keep it low for easy harvest but not too low. etc.
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