Claim: Israel and Hamas Are Close to Reaching a Deal for the Release of Some Hostages

The deal is being considered by the war cabinet, propaganda outlet CNN claims.

Israel, Hamas and the US are on the cusp of reaching a deal that could be announced as soon as Tuesday for Hamas to release 50 women and children hostages that the militant group took during the October 7 terror attack on Israel, in exchange for a four-to-five day pause in fighting and three Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons for every hostage released, according to sources familiar with the negotiations.
The deal could be announced as soon as Tuesday, two Israeli sources said. US officials close to the negotiations stressed that while the deal is not done, they are increasingly optimistic and believe the many weeks of difficult work is about to pay off with a hostage release.
"It's very close," a senior US official told CNN.
Israel's war cabinet will meet Tuesday at 6 p.m. local time (11 a.m. ET), followed by the security cabinet at 12 p.m. and the government an hour later, "in light of the developments on the issue of freeing the hostages," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office announced Tuesday.
"We are making progress. I don't think it's worth saying more, even at this moment, but I hope there will be good news soon," Netanyahu said as he met with reservists on Tuesday.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:11 PM

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1 Yeet!

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 21, 2023 12:11 PM (5rsL9)

2 Good morning, ace

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 21, 2023 12:11 PM (5rsL9)

3 'You release them or we kill you all'?

That is a deal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:12 PM (zZu0s)

4 'And' works too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:12 PM (zZu0s)

5 That would be a big fucking mistake. Yuge.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (5AVMW)

6 I bet those female hostages are in pretty bad shape. If that was my sister or daughter, I'd be pissed.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (5rsL9)

7
Unconditional surrender and release of all hostages or face total annihilation.

All other considerations regrettably must be secondary.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (x0n13)

8 Hopefully Israel doesn't get screwed here.

Hostage taking should not be permitted to 'pay' for Hamas.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (xcxpd)

9 Hope they don't fall for it. It's a trap. Punish Hamas more.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (JMAcK)

10 Noooooooooooooooooo! Don't do it. This will just allow the rapist, murderous, terrorist Hamas to regroup and prepare to do it all over again. Oh well, history has a way of repeating itself.

Posted by: Fed Up to Here at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (VcHM+)

11 Some of the hostages. Some of the ones we haven't killed...yet.

Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (AwYPR)

12 What a horrible deal. I understand why Israel feels pressure to do this--anything to spare hostages. But it really just reinforces the value of hostage-taking and ensures it will happen again. Biden wants this of course to pacify the enormous antisemitic and anti-American base of the Democrat party. I only support pausing the Israeli assault for the purpose of taking photos to create memes for trolling Hamas and Democrats on social media.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (YQ4mh)

13
Considering who the captors are, I imagine some or even most of the hostages are praying for death.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (x0n13)

14 Can we trade CNN for hostages?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (NDoI6)

15
All or nothing. Unconditional surrender or die.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (enJYY)

16 Well, if it is on CNN, it is bound to be truthy.

Posted by: huerfano at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (Q4KYm)

17 Decimate is kill every tenth, correct?

What do you call allowing every tenth to live and desert temp the other 9?

Posted by: DOYLE at November 21, 2023 12:15 PM (Z8Yh2)

18 Fuck that noise. 50? How many young Israelis will die as the result of giving the terrorists time to regroup? This deal smells of shit.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 12:15 PM (pohLc)

19 "three Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons for every hostage released"

Wire them all with explosives and detonate just as soon as the hostages are free.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 21, 2023 12:15 PM (JMAcK)

20 This time has to be different, because it's pretty clear now there won't be a next time.

Kill 'em all, and let Allah do whatever he wants with them......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at November 21, 2023 12:15 PM (5AVMW)

21 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 12:15 PM (Zz0t1)

22 It's a trap!

Posted by: Admiral Allah Ackbar at November 21, 2023 12:15 PM (w9Wax)

23 Unconditional surrender and release of all hostages or face total annihilation.

All other considerations regrettably must be secondary.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (x0n13)

Israel could use a man like General Grant again.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 21, 2023 12:16 PM (Q0kLU)

24 Get the hostages. Kill more hamas.

Get more hostages.

Kill more hamas.

Seems a simple strategy to me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)

25 Yes Deci or ten.

So 10%.

How about 100% instead.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:16 PM (NDoI6)

26
The fact that it's on XiNN means it's an attempt to pressure Bibi to the negotiating table.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 21, 2023 12:16 PM (x0n13)

27 and three Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons for every hostage released

Not unless they have tracking devices implanted in their murderous scumbag skulls.

Posted by: spindrift at November 21, 2023 12:17 PM (Zdu9h)

28
Hostage taking should not be permitted to 'pay' for Hamas.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (xcxpd)

Look, fat......

Posted by: The OBiden Administration at November 21, 2023 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)

29 Noooooooooooooooooo! Don't do it. This will just allow the rapist, murderous, terrorist Hamas to regroup and prepare to do it all over again.

I'm not sure how Hamas could regroup prepare. It's my guess that Israel knows where they are, and figures that another 5 days in a hole won't do much to enhance Hamas' ability to fight.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:17 PM (I/Qkd)

30 26
The fact that it's on XiNN means it's an attempt to pressure Bibi to the negotiating table.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 21, 2023 12:16 PM (x0n13)

Jah. The Press only does propaganda. It does not educate or inform.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:17 PM (xcxpd)

31 "We are making progress. I don't think it's worth saying more, even at this moment, but I hope there will be good news soon," Netanyahu said as he met with reservists on Tuesday.

I hope he means they are on the verge of actually freeing the hostages and killing the captors as opposed to a deal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 21, 2023 12:18 PM (x0n13)

32 The only acceptable response is Michael Corleone you will get nothing.

Posted by: Montec at November 21, 2023 12:18 PM (bWsRe)

33 All hostages AND you will die.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at November 21, 2023 12:18 PM (VMFAF)

34 28
Hostage taking should not be permitted to 'pay' for Hamas.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (xcxpd)

Look, fat......
Posted by: The OBiden Administration at November 21, 2023 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)

Hurtful.
*hides in Intermittent Fasting*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:18 PM (xcxpd)

35 The memory of Giled Shalit screams "NO" about any trade.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:18 PM (NDoI6)

36 I hope this works out well for Israel.
We shall see.

Posted by: EFG at November 21, 2023 12:19 PM (Z4puw)

37 " three Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons for every hostage released"

You've got to be kidding me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 21, 2023 12:20 PM (p+1gI)

38 One of Israel;s parties is a "no" on the deal :
"deal for release of the hostages is bad for Israel's security, bad for the hostages and bad for the IDF soldiers"

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:20 PM (V13WU)

39 3 Palestinians for every hostage?

What complete dumbass came up with that deal?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 21, 2023 12:20 PM (ou9hh)

40
the royal legshot

https://tinyurl.com/y5vjtnr8

Posted by: DB - at November 21, 2023 12:20 PM (geLO8)

41 Never negotiate with terrorists is a great rule. I will readily admit however that if one of the hostages were my wife or daughter or mother I would support this. So heartbreaking that these savages force such agonizing decisions

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 21, 2023 12:21 PM (F2dmq)

42 Hamas should demand swaps based on equivalent IQ. They'd get four to one, at least.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 21, 2023 12:21 PM (woPEM)

43 The fact that it's on XiNN means it's an attempt to pressure Bibi to the negotiating table.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 21, 2023 12:16 PM (x0n13)

Exactly. Plus, that quote from Bibi doesn't actually have a subject, as far as whether he he talking about this stupid cease-fire idea.

"We are making progress, and hope there will be good news soon..."

Shit, he could be talking about how many cord-feet of Hamas logs they have harvested to date as far as we know....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at November 21, 2023 12:21 PM (5AVMW)

44 What do you call allowing every tenth to live and desert temp the other 9?
Posted by: DOYLE at November 21, 2023 12:15 PM (Z8Yh2)

*****
A good start?

Posted by: EFG at November 21, 2023 12:21 PM (Z4puw)

45 cnn?

(spit)

I don't believe a word of it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at November 21, 2023 12:21 PM (hXr4C)

46 Decimate does mean one out of ten. Romans would single out a rebellious group of soldiers, execute one out of ten, and force the remainder to live outside camp on short rations until their attitude improved.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 21, 2023 12:22 PM (0EOe9)

47
I guess as long as Israel seems to be 'considering' it - it seems that Hamas would want to keep the hostages alive.

So it might just be part of a delay, delay, delay strategy.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 21, 2023 12:22 PM (enJYY)

48 When it comes to prisoners/hostages, Hamas is more evil than the Japanese were in World War II.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:22 PM (NDoI6)

49 My real problem with this, besides that it is one sided and not all the hostages, is that is begins the process of a "permanent" ceasefire without the total destruction of hamas, islamic jihad, and the PLO.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (pVWRI)

50 I can't imagine they'll take this deal. It's insane. If they take it, they have to know what will happen. Do you want more Hamas? Because this is how you get more Hamas.

Don't listen to Shitpants Biden. Listen to U.S. Grant: "No terms except unconditional and immediate surrender can be accepted. I propose to move immediately upon your works."

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (Npnb7)

51 I immediately am suspicious that the US is involved… Brandon’s administration should keep its nose out and simply support whatever Israel might determine is in its best interests

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (F2dmq)

52 IDF in action #1:
Israel War Room @IsraelWarRoom 9h
#BREAKING: In an expansion of Israel's efforts against Hamas terrorists in Gaza, the 162nd Division, in collaboration with the air force, operated in preparing the battlefield in the area of Jabalia.

Attacks on Jabalia terror targets included support from fighter jets and UAVs. During the battle, forces struck three tunnel shafts in the area of Jabaliya, in which terrorists were hiding.

The 401st Brigade engaged terrorists in the northern Gaza Strip, during which they killed terrorists and directed aircraft to attack from the air. In addition, the forces located and destroyed rocket launchers.

https://tinyurl.com/yc538v6f
30 seconds; no sound; aerial footage

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (krqg6)

53 there are reasons why never negotiate with terrorists, why is Israel's political echelon refusing to forget that ? they need to get some air and clear their heads.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (V13WU)

54 guess as long as Israel seems to be 'considering' it - it seems that Hamas would want to keep the hostages alive.

So it might just be part of a delay, delay, delay strategy.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 21, 2023 12:22 PM (enJYY)

Where does it say the hostages to be returned are alive and will be returned alive?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (pVWRI)

55 “Americans have had a rough few years" -- Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg

Posted by: SMOD at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (RHGPo)

56 IDF in action #2:
Israel War Room @IsraelWarRoom 10h
Troops from the Nahal Brigade eliminated dozens of terrorists over the past few days with support of tanks and UAVs.

Additionally, combat squads of the 551st Brigade, in collaboration with special forces, operated north of Jabalia in order to eliminate terror targets in the area and clear a path for divisional forces and neutralized terrorist targets in the area.

During the operation, troops killed dozens of terrorists with air support, captured enemy weapons in various locations, including private houses and children’s bedrooms, and located and destroyed tunnel shafts.

https://tinyurl.com/yrvz2yzu
25 seconds; ground forces in action; LOUD ordnance; no gore

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (krqg6)

57 There wouldn't be any release of hostages if not for the IDF operation in Gaza. The Hamas barbarians have been decimated and are desperate for reprieve. President Biden was right in rejecting talk of a cease fire.

this is what's called diplomacy...Sometimes it isn't pretty, sometimes it gives the impression of weakness...Be patient with President Biden, and let him do what he can to help end this horrible mess.

Next up... How is this bad news for Biden? It will be spun as the us caving to the left pressuring biden to call a cease fire "at any cost". It will be spun as a victory for hamas and a weak failure for the west.

the right will add their squawking to the cacophony of low information high-emotion complaining and Trump will be elected and a whole lot of people will wail and cry and hold their heads in despair. Sometimes I really despise other people.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 21, 2023 12:24 PM (jmd+r)

58 CNN stylebook

militant (MIH luh tent): n.

A person who rapes and murders civilians on behalf of causes we support.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 21, 2023 12:24 PM (wzAuc)

59 Hi Ace

This makes me sick to my stomach. They took whole families with young children. They going to release the kids without Mom and Dad or Mom and the kids without Dad? What is the rationale for keeping any civilian hostages? This is just so wrong on so many levels. The people in Israeli jails committed crimes. The people held in Gaza are innocent civilians. These are terrorists. They are negotiating with Terrorists to release innocent civilians to get back terrorists.
Gah. I hate this.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 21, 2023 12:24 PM (t/2Uw)

60 Giving a ceasefire for return of hostages only incentives taking more hostages. That's why at one point we absolutely refused to negotiate with terrorists.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:24 PM (iFTx/)

61 Old and Busted: Danegeld.
New Hotness: Pali Ceasefire.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:25 PM (xaFKb)

62 "30 26
The fact that it's on XiNN means it's an attempt to pressure Bibi to the negotiating table.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 21, 2023 12:16 PM (x0n13)

Jah. The Press only does propaganda. It does not educate or inform.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:17 PM (xcxpd) "

all of the above!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at November 21, 2023 12:25 PM (hXr4C)

63 "...and three Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons for every hostage released, according to sources familiar with the negotiations."

_________________

Microchip them somehow and then serve notice of their release revocation via guided munitions.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 21, 2023 12:25 PM (Dm8we)

64 I think Israel should continue to kill Hamas personnel until they run out of Hamas personnel to kill-

this is a generational opportunity for Israel to crush an enemy completely

don't go wobbly

Posted by: DB - at November 21, 2023 12:26 PM (geLO8)

65 I've also become fascinated by the use of MWDs (Military Working Dogs) as trained for & used by U.S. soldiers in combat; I wouldn't want to go into certain battle situations without one as a handler -- although with the close bond developed, it would be painful to lose your personal MWD to injury or death.

Anyway, any idea if the IDF employs such assets in battle?
Posted by: ShainS

They do and,at least years ago, there was a deep connection with Israel and it's Military Dogs and the US Military's War Dogs.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
--------
Dr. Eli David @DrEliDavid 7h
Rest in peace Tiger 🐶
You were more human than those vile subhumans. In your death, you saved the lives of many IDF soldiers.

Jewish News Syndicate @JNS_org Nov 20
Tiger, an IDF dog from the Oketz canine unit, who was trained to find hidden terrorists, was killed doing his job yesterday. He revealed the location of a five-person terror cell that the IDF was able to eliminate but not before Tiger was shot multiple times.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 12:26 PM (krqg6)

66 53 there are reasons why never negotiate with terrorists, why is Israel's political echelon refusing to forget that ? they need to get some air and clear their heads.
Posted by: runner

Israel is treating Hamaes less like a terrorist group, and more like the elected government of Gaza. They declared war on them, and therefore should negotiate with them as well, I assume. Plus, negotiating with them in the past has been pretty common on prisoner exchanges.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 21, 2023 12:27 PM (jmd+r)

67 48 When it comes to prisoners/hostages, Hamas is more evil than the Japanese were in World War II.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:22 PM (NDoI6)

*considers this assertion*

Damn.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:27 PM (xcxpd)

68 Release any held PLA "fighters" to Hamas.

Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2023 12:27 PM (AwYPR)

69 I think this is mostly driven by internal pressure from families.

It is unfortunate that Israel does not have the will to end these "disproportionate" swaps of x:1

Pay the danegeld, expect more Danes.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 21, 2023 12:27 PM (9r+sQ)

70 Read the comments. Good to see a few folks understanding that if the US is involved, and we are, it's not in the best interests of long term security of Israel.

For whatever reason, to those that think four or five days won't save Hamas ? Hamas thinks four or five days will save Hamas. That is no small thing, when it comes to playing a board game - or negotiating a deal - or sitting at the poker table. And all three are variations on a theme. You assess your opponents strengths and weaknesses, your own, and assign priorities to limited resources. You also better damn assess their assessment of theirs and yours.

Hence, why do the five days matter. Because Hamas and the US think they matter. Israel best not lose sight of that.

Posted by: Game Theory at November 21, 2023 12:27 PM (QYUcu)

71 Israel should demand current "proof of life" videos before making its decision. The stringer "journalists" could facilitate this.

Posted by: pookysgirl, very much an amateur at November 21, 2023 12:27 PM (dtlDP)

72 Don't listen to Shitpants Biden. Listen to U.S. Grant: "No terms except unconditional and immediate surrender can be accepted. I propose to move immediately upon your works."
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (Npnb7)

You fail to consider the nature of the different enemies. Grant wanted surrender of the rebel forces, but the rebel forces had not spent their whole lives screaming and preparing for Yankee extermination. Not the case in Gaza. Surrender will only delay the next attack. Surrender is unacceptable. Hamas must be eliminated, not disarmed and sent home.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 12:27 PM (pohLc)

73 No don't do it!

That effing Obama/Biden regime!

We are doomed and so is Israel.

Posted by: PJ at November 21, 2023 12:27 PM (G1dq6)

74 you know who else corralled, then separated families before destroying them ? can't they see getting rid of the children and women gives Hamas an upper hand, none of the remaining men will be released. Hamas WANTS to release woman and children, the shit they are getting around the world is damaging the support. after the women , children are released , they can say that they are holding soldiers and then want blood stained terrorists to be released. this is so stupid.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:28 PM (V13WU)

75 How about we string up the free lance journalists until Hamas releases the hostages?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:28 PM (NDoI6)

76 The CNN article mentions no names except Netanyahu offering hope on Tuesday. That could apply to any Tuesday in the last 6 weeks to be relevant to this story.

It's CNN. I'll wait for something more reliable.

Posted by: DanMan at November 21, 2023 12:29 PM (8uzBS)

77 No... I'm pretty sure the Biden cabal is behind this and no doubt it's to bolster his sagging political future... As much as I would like to see hostages freed this will not end well in my opinion

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2023 12:30 PM (bs+z0)

78 the trick was for Hamas and its interlocutors to convince Israel that Israel is more interested in release of women and children, than they are. They succeeded....when the opposite is the case..

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:30 PM (V13WU)

79 How many missiles, rockets and mortars can Hamas smuggle into Gaza in 5 days?

Because that's exactly what will happen.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2023 12:30 PM (Q4IgG)

80 You know once any ceasefire starts, immediately the usual jackals will say it should be permanent. But if they can get some hostages and then go right back in full force I'd say sure pause for 2-3 days. But they can't obviously accept anything that would position Hamas to return.

Posted by: Lex at November 21, 2023 12:30 PM (fMN7A)

81 "It's very close," a senior US official told CNN.

Un huh.
If I were Netanyahu, I'd have my ambassador in DC working overtime trying to figure out how 'ol Joe is gonna screw this up...or take credit for it.

There may be something going on in the background we aren't seeing...but do not forget Netanyahu's first goal...the elimination of Hamas.
JJ has it right @ 7.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 12:31 PM (uSHSS)

82 Oh and by the way, hamas refuses to release dead bodies in this so called transfer????

Vile pigs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2023 12:31 PM (pVWRI)

83 Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian @manniefabian 4h
The IDF releases footage of the elite Maglan unit operating in the Gaza Strip, using Spike missiles and the Iron Sting guided mortar.

According to the IDF, the unit has located and struck some 70 Hamas targets during the ground offensive, including observation posts, missile launch sites, and terror cells.

It says the Maglan troops, along with other forces of the Commando Brigade, found weaponry in the home of a Hamas member, and raided a school next to which two tunnel shafts were found.

https://tinyurl.com/bdh4h8tf
2 videos 58 seconds; loud ordnance// 20 seconds; no sound -- no gore in either

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM (krqg6)

84 The US waged total war against Germany and Japan in WW2. Totally destroyed those countries' will to continue. Not a peep out of them since 1945.

Israel must do the same now.

Posted by: DB - at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM (geLO8)

85 Americans have had a rough few years" -- Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg

I guess they've figured out that the "everything is great, so stop complaining" approach wasn't working out for them.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM (I/Qkd)

86 Breitbart: Israeli Government Approves Deal: 4-Day Pause for 50 Hostages

Posted by: SMOD at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM (RHGPo)

87 Trump will be elected and a whole lot of people will wail and cry and hold their heads in despair.

So like just happened in Argentina? It's actually funny how it looks like the same women in every country going into hysterics when someone who isn't a Maoist is elected.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM (FD5dr)

88 What excuse given for holding Thai hostages?

Posted by: Goatweed at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM (0Q/6W)

89 Taquiiya for the gullible. There's your ceasefire for hostage exchange.

Posted by: Eromero at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM (IM4fj)

90 79 How many missiles, rockets and mortars can Hamas smuggle into Gaza in 5 days?

Because that's exactly what will happen.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2023 12:30 PM (Q4IgG)

They are not asking for the 'pause' to resupply... their lines are cut off. Israel has control of the Sea, and both Israeli AND Egyptian troops have cut off supplies from the South.

They want the time to leave... and so they can take their loot with them.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM (xaFKb)

91 never understood why dead bodies were considered equal trade...

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:33 PM (V13WU)

92 Another fucking hudna.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 21, 2023 12:33 PM (GDTIC)

93 Remember this:

75% of the savages interviewed in a Palestinian poll were okay with the Oct. 7th massacre.

There is no chance of peace with that kind of opinion being the plurality.

Gaza delenda est.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:33 PM (NDoI6)

94 Just No! Israel will regret every moment of any ceasefire.

Posted by: MCPR at November 21, 2023 12:33 PM (CpzIi)

95 dead bodies are only valuable because Israel made them so

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:34 PM (V13WU)

96 Breitbart: Israeli Government Approves Deal: 4-Day Pause for 50 Hostages

If true, then that's it. The IDF will not resume offensive operations. Hamas survives. And no hostages not-returned ever see daylight again.

Posted by: Game Theory at November 21, 2023 12:34 PM (QYUcu)

97 82 Oh and by the way, hamas refuses to release dead bodies in this so called transfer????

Vile pigs
Posted by: Nevergiveup

We know how the vile Jew propaganda machine will make up lies about how the people died! We found them raped, beheaded, and burned alive!!

Posted by: Hamas Public Affairs at November 21, 2023 12:34 PM (jmd+r)

98 What excuse given for holding Thai hostages?
Posted by: Goatweed at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM

They don't want them Thai Died?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 12:34 PM (bqazj)

99 80 You know once any ceasefire starts, immediately the usual jackals will say it should be permanent. But if they can get some hostages and then go right back in full force I'd say sure pause for 2-3 days. But they can't obviously accept anything that would position Hamas to return.
Posted by: Lex at November 21, 2023 12:30 PM (fMN7A)

If they gave up 50, they have more.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:34 PM (xaFKb)

100 Hamas: We've released the hostages as promised, now release the prisoners.

Netanyahu: *Looks to the sky as a transport plane flies overhead with the cargo ramp down and IDF personnel chucking Palestinians out the back without parachutes.* Ah, here they come now.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 21, 2023 12:35 PM (c12Xv)

101 95 dead bodies are only valuable because Israel made them so
Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:34 PM (V13WU)

Dead bodies would show how they died, and what was done to them.

Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:35 PM (xaFKb)

102 Only id israel gets to choose which palis are paroled.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2023 12:36 PM (6hHAx)

103 They want the time to leave... and so they can take their loot with them.
---
Probably true. Would it serve the IDF's interests if Hamas moved its operatives south? I wonder if this might be part of Israel's calculation.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 21, 2023 12:36 PM (woPEM)

104 They are not asking for the 'pause' to resupply... their lines are cut off. Israel has control of the Sea, and both Israeli AND Egyptian troops have cut off supplies from the South.

They want the time to leave... and so they can take their loot with them.

That's about right. Hamas is isolated and has nowhere to go. Those that can escape, will, and those that can't, are stuck with a choice of surrender or die.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:36 PM (I/Qkd)

105 Thanks for the hostages.

BOOM

Five days? Oh, thought you said five minutes. Sorry.

BOOM

Posted by: wth at November 21, 2023 12:36 PM (v0R5T)

106 This is a terrible idea and is political in nature. It reeks of US DoS. I hate to also sound callous, but the minute they took hostages they were as good as dead. Hamas has no central command and control. The individual units holding hostages have shown a willingness to kill them once they either become baggage to movement or they come under fire. They will never recover or account for all those held. Past is prologue. These people just committed the worst mass murder in history. Yet now we are negotiating?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (Edo3/)

107 Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.

well if it did, it would be the first time that has ever happened (actual undercutting of Hamas/Islamist support)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (AcWfM)

108 Hamas: We've released the hostages as promised, now release the prisoners.

Netanyahu: *Looks to the sky as a transport plane flies overhead with the cargo ramp down and IDF personnel chucking Palestinians out the back without parachutes.* Ah, here they come now.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 21, 2023 12:35 PM (c12Xv)
***

Snort!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (uSHSS)

109 Best case, they get some hostages back.
Worst case, this will encourage the taking of more hostages.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (MeG8a)

110 Israel should not pause operations. Finish it.

Posted by: DB - at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (geLO8)

111 Fucking TWO posts on Israel on an American blog. WTF people??????

-- Kittentooth

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (iFTx/)

112 God as my witness I thought Palis could fly!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (6hHAx)

113 What excuse given for holding Thai hostages?

Posted by: Goatweed at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM (0Q/6W)

---------

Infidel-a-Thai to the cause?

/Yeah, I'm no Muldoon ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (lJtR1)

114 Dead bodies would show how they died, and what was done to them.

Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:35 PM (xaFKb)

800-900 remains they could identify, with another 300 not, and live-streaming the atrocities did not do the trick ?

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:38 PM (V13WU)

115 Dead bodies would show how they died, and what was done to them.

Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.

At this point, if you aren't persuaded that Hamas committed atrocities, you're unpersuadable.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:38 PM (I/Qkd)

116 Here's the deal:

1) You release all the hostages immediately, or
2) We release you from this mortal coil.

You have 60 seconds...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 21, 2023 12:38 PM (wtvvX)

117 Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:35 PM (xaFKb)

Sorry, old chap, but we're just not convinced of that.

Posted by: The BBC at November 21, 2023 12:38 PM (PiwSw)

118 Americans have had a rough few years" -- Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg

I guess they've figured out that the "everything is great, so stop complaining" approach wasn't working out for them.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:32 PM

Everything is bound to get better if Joe is just re-elected next year!

Posted by: doing the same thing, expecting different results at November 21, 2023 12:38 PM (Q4KYm)

119
O, ISRAEL- WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE?

Posted by: DB - at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (geLO8)

120 That's about right. Hamas is isolated and has nowhere to go. Those that can escape, will, and those that can't, are stuck with a choice of surrender or die.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:36 PM (I/Qkd)

You just posted a literal contradiction. If Hamas has nowhere to go, why do you think they're asking for four or five days to get where they want to go ?

Obviously, the high value Hamas targets - the ones with the stroke to negotiate such a deal - think they have somewhere to go. And they see value in it.

Posted by: Game Theory at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (QYUcu)

121 I might make that deal as long as the Pali prisoners were returned directly to Gaza. In a few days, they and the rest of Hamas would be dead anyway.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (7j5j0)

122 800-900 remains they could identify, with another 300 not, and live-streaming the atrocities did not do the trick ?
Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:38 PM (V13WU)

To some of 'our' left? apparently not.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (xaFKb)

123 f12 What a horrible deal. I understand why Israel feels pressure to do this--anything to spare hostages. But it really just reinforces the value of hostage-taking and ensures it will happen again."

rom the end of the last thread, and appropriate here:

173 Why - because Israel is a society that truly does feel and care deeply for its people; and although I (and others ) have at times said "just consider the hostages dead already", it's different when you're talking about your parents, your daughters, and your little children. If we were in their shoes, and had a real chance to save our own children, what would we do? Can any of us say for sure?

and also, as to the 150 for 50; yes, looks ridiculous on its face. But Israel now probably has several thousand Hamas associated prisoners in custody, and they are offering to swap only women and juveniles, prisoners they don't want to hold anyways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (i9ffA)

124 Threatening to kill Islamic fanatics is not persuasive

They want the after life.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (NDoI6)

125 111 Fucking TWO posts on Israel on an American blog. WTF people??????

-- Kittentooth
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (iFTx/)

??

Must have missed something...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (xcxpd)

126 82 Oh and by the way, hamas refuses to release dead bodies in this so called transfer????

Vile pigs
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Because they have been raped and mutilated and that would be bad PR (I assume.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 21, 2023 12:40 PM (9r+sQ)

127 Evidence of atrocities would not effectively erode support for Hamas. Get real. Their supporters make excuses or just ignore the atrocities altogether. Or call them justified.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 12:40 PM (pohLc)

128 800-900 remains they could identify, with another 300 not, and live-streaming the atrocities did not do the trick ?
Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:38 PM (V13WU)

It sure did it for me, and as it should have for every sensible, moral, thinking person alive. But there are many people who are ipublicly interviewed and refuse to condemn Hamas; let no one forget them.

Posted by: LASue at November 21, 2023 12:40 PM (Kcw7x)

129 “Americans have had a rough few years" -- Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg
Posted by: SMOD at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (RHGPo)
.......

Needs moar lube.

Posted by: wth at November 21, 2023 12:40 PM (v0R5T)

130 What are winked blinken and nod going to say when none of the Americans are released?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 21, 2023 12:40 PM (GDTIC)

131 124 Threatening to kill Islamic fanatics is not persuasive

They want the after life.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (NDoI6)

Well, Let's give it to them then

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2023 12:41 PM (bs+z0)

132 If true, then that's it. The IDF will not resume offensive operations. Hamas survives. And no hostages not-returned ever see daylight again.
Posted by: Game Theory

While I obviously don't know all the details on the ground, I think we all might be catastrophizing a bit here. All offensive operations become disjointed over time and culminate, requiring time to reconsolidate and plan more coordinated future operations. Maybe they've hit that point, secured many major objectives, and are just coinciding the "cease fire" to capitalize on the break they were going to have anyway?

Also, as I understand, Israel basically has Hamas controlled areas pretty much surrounded and isolated. They're not letting shit in without thorough searches, so it's not like the remaining Hamas forced will get to benefit much from the pause. In fact, it may get worse for Hamas...if they're desperate enough, they may break the cease fire and look even worse.

Posted by: Military Moron at November 21, 2023 12:41 PM (jmd+r)

133 Serious question: What proof is there that Hamas is actually holding X number of (living) hostages? Without proof of life, whatever Hamas says -- or anyone says -- is just bullshit. Just seems to me that if you don't know exactly how many are being held, how can you negotiate any kind of ceasefire? (Even assuming, contrary to fact, that a ceasefire is worth negotiating.)

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

134 Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.

Most of the Hamas body camera footage of atrocities is available now. And as usual you can't change an AWFL's mind, especially now that leftists are waving banners that victory for Hamas is necessary to put Roe v Wade back into effect. (I guess Gaza being a paradise for trannies got debunked too well).

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:41 PM (FD5dr)

135 So.... who was harmed?

The CFTC claimed that Binance for years didn’t have a program to prevent and detect terrorist financing and money laundering. It also said Binance gave Americans access to derivatives such as futures or swaps that can only be traded in the U.S. if they are offered on regulated platforms. Binance never registered with U.S. regulators, making its risky leveraged products off-limits to American traders, the CFTC said.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 21, 2023 12:42 PM (6hHAx)

136 Obviously, the high value Hamas targets - the ones with the stroke to negotiate such a deal - think they have somewhere to go. And they see value in it.
Posted by: Game Theory at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (QYUcu)

One report was that Yahyah (the leader in Gaza) was believed to be hiding in the south, somewhere near Gaza. Don't know how he thinks he can get out. I remember one of the Isis leaders mocked up a water truck with a room inside the water tank and tried to escape. A US missile wasn't fooled.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:42 PM (i9ffA)

137 Keyser Soze has entered the chat...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 21, 2023 12:42 PM (7j5j0)

138 Some will never be convinced of the atrocities until they are in the bed of a white Toyota truck getting anally raped and even then some will think its still all their fault.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:42 PM (NDoI6)

139 Oh and by the way, hamas refuses to release dead bodies in this so called transfer????

Vile pigs
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Because they have been raped and mutilated and that would be bad PR (I assume.)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

We'll figure something out...

*Five Minutes Later*

Trump's Fault!!

Posted by: NYT at November 21, 2023 12:42 PM (c12Xv)

140 What are winked blinken and nod going to say when none of the Americans are released?
Posted by: Ben Had at November 21, 2023 12:40 PM (GDTIC)
.......

Needs moar ceasefire.

Posted by: wth at November 21, 2023 12:42 PM (v0R5T)

141 125 111 Fucking TWO posts on Israel on an American blog. WTF people??????

-- Kittentooth
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:37 PM (iFTx/)

??

Must have missed something...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (xcxpd)
________

Comments on last post. Search "liontooth" . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:43 PM (iFTx/)

142 O, ISRAEL- WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE?

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the bleatings of their goats.

Posted by: Arnold Schwartzenstein at November 21, 2023 12:43 PM (FD5dr)

143 One report was that Yahyah (the leader in Gaza) was believed to be hiding in the south, somewhere near Gaza. Don't know how he thinks he can get out. I remember one of the Isis leaders mocked up a water truck with a room inside the water tank and tried to escape. A US missile wasn't fooled.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:42 PM (i9ffA)

LOL! (Probably an inappropriate response, but I LOL'ed anyway )

Posted by: LASue at November 21, 2023 12:43 PM (Kcw7x)

144 o some of 'our' left? apparently not.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (xaFKb)

at some point, we need to cut our losses at tryin' to convince the left. which I've done many years ago....

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:43 PM (V13WU)

145 Yeet!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 21, 2023 12:11 PM (5rsL9)

YOOT !

Posted by: JT at November 21, 2023 12:43 PM (T4tVD)

146 ??

Must have missed something...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (xcxpd)

Eh, commenter just wanted to call balls and strikes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:43 PM (zZu0s)

147 Five days ? Five hours is more than enough... If hostages are still alive

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2023 12:44 PM (bs+z0)

148 I hope Ace does a post on the X lawsuit of Media Matters. I hope Musk crushes those bastards into dust.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 21, 2023 12:44 PM (9zLJR)

149 It ain't warm out thar.

Posted by: JT at November 21, 2023 12:44 PM (T4tVD)

150 ucking TWO posts on Israel on an American blog. WTF people??????

-- Kittentooth
Posted by: Elric Blade

I demand four posts on the Bald Eagle and at least thirteen on the American Flag, NOW!
-Kittentooth, probably

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:44 PM (CIS44)

151 Yeet!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 21, 2023 12:11 PM (5rsL9)

YOOT !
Posted by: JT at November 21, 2023 12:43 PM

YAWP!

Posted by: A Dead Poet at November 21, 2023 12:44 PM (aQy7p)

152 What are winked blinken and nod going to say when none of the Americans are released?
Posted by: Ben Had at November 21, 2023 12:40 PM (GDTIC)
.......

" Biden is a foreign policy genius. And you're welcome."

Posted by: LASue at November 21, 2023 12:44 PM (Kcw7x)

153 While I obviously don't know all the details on the ground, I think we all might be catastrophizing a bit here. All offensive operations become disjointed over time and culminate, requiring time to reconsolidate and plan more coordinated future operations.

No. This kind of operation requires emotional momentum. Popular will that you either build or lose daily. Israel just gave it all away. There will be no national taste for renewed fighting in four or five days. That's why Hamas wanted it.

You can re-organize your troops at the brigade and divisional level, with today's comms, in a day. Especially if you think you have your opponent on the run and unable to hit back. And you don't ask your defeated enemy if it's OK to pause to do so.

This is an awful decision. I suspect we, the US, used continued financial and material support as leverage. Or Israel simply lost the will seeing their own casualties mount.

Posted by: Game Theory at November 21, 2023 12:45 PM (QYUcu)

154
Diogenes above the fold, cool.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 21, 2023 12:45 PM (SHylA)

155 Gen. Curtis LeMay sure knew how to handle stubborn opponents.

Granted, gaza's concrete and cinder block isn't nearly the firestorm fuel that Tokyo's wooden structures were.

But I'm sure that there'd soon be some solutions, for that.

More Rubble = Less Trouble.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 21, 2023 12:45 PM (e6UQI)

156 138 Some will never be convinced of the atrocities until they are in the bed of a white Toyota truck getting anally raped and even then some will think its still all their fault.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2023 12:42 PM (NDoI6)
_______________

"Tell me more about that anal raping!"

-- Pete Bootyjuice

"Yes, tell us more!"

-- Barack "Golden Rear" Obama

"Can I watch?"

-- David French

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:45 PM (iFTx/)

157 I hope Ace does a post on the X lawsuit of Media Matters. I hope Musk crushes those bastards into dust.

He definitely has the receipts on what they actually did. At the very least this oughta waste a bunch of Soros' money heading into an election.

Posted by: Arnold Schwartzenstein at November 21, 2023 12:45 PM (FD5dr)

158 YOWW!

Posted by: my balls at November 21, 2023 12:45 PM (v0R5T)

159 especially now that leftists are waving banners that victory for Hamas is necessary to put Roe v Wade back into effect. (I guess Gaza being a paradise for trannies got debunked too well).
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:41 PM (FD5dr)

*pause*
What?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:46 PM (zZu0s)

160 While I obviously don't know all the details on the ground, I think we all might be catastrophizing a bit here. All offensive operations become disjointed over time and culminate, requiring time to reconsolidate and plan more coordinated future operations. Maybe they've hit that point, secured many major objectives, and are just coinciding the "cease fire" to capitalize on the break they were going to have anyway?"

In fact, the IDF announced that they are now entering the "second phase" of the war, that they have achieved most of their ground objectives, and that the aerial and ground campaigns would be slackened now and focused mainly on identifying, searching, and destroying the remaining tunnels. They may go into some areas of Southern Gaza, but there were signaling that the south will not be subject to the intense attack that Northern Gaza has been subjected to.

Of course finding and regaining control of the hostages is a primary goal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (i9ffA)

161 112 God as my witness I thought Palis could fly!
-------
🤸 🦃 🚁 🤸 🦃

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (krqg6)

162 Supplies are going to "civilians". That is, Hamas. They have already integrated their people into the civilian infrastructure. The two, are one. You are resupplying the enemy. Second, a reported part of the deal is that Israel must stop flying ISR during the ceasefire. That's a huge red flag.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (Edo3/)

163 Biden is a foreign policy genius

My favorite liberal trope about Biden. He's been wrong about every issue going back 50 years, but he's a foreign policy genius.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (FD5dr)

164 Here's the deal:

1) You release all the hostages immediately, or
2) We release you from this mortal coil.

You have 60 seconds...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 21, 2023 12:38 PM (wtvvX)

When they don't value their own lives, that's a losing proposition.

Posted by: LASue at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (Kcw7x)

165 That's about right. Hamas is isolated and has nowhere to go. Those that can escape, will, and those that can't, are stuck with a choice of surrender or die.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:36 PM (I/Qkd)

You just posted a literal contradiction. If Hamas has nowhere to go, why do you think they're asking for four or five days to get where they want to go ?

I suppose because the prospect of dying immedately or hoping to escape in the intervening 5 days is a pretty easy decision for most people.

Hoping to escape, and escaping, are two different things.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (I/Qkd)

166 A little Islamic justice for the released terrorists... take both their hands

Posted by: Ben Had at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (GDTIC)

167 150 ucking TWO posts on Israel on an American blog. WTF people??????

-- Kittentooth
Posted by: Elric Blade

I demand four posts on the Bald Eagle and at least thirteen on the American Flag, NOW!
-Kittentooth, probably
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:44 PM (CIS44)

I would not say no to a thorough study of busty redheads v busty brunettes v busty blondes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (zZu0s)

168 I’ve changed my 48 hour rule to 96.
If everyone did that, though, our threads might be less entertaining.

Posted by: RI Red at November 21, 2023 12:48 PM (se8mv)

169
do any of you know many people who , as adults, are willing to radically change their opinions about politics ?

Here is a voluntary assignment, get together with your lefty relatives over Thanksgiving and try it ! then liveblog the experience...

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 12:48 PM (V13WU)

170 Who's advising Joe on his "emergency powers"?...re; "climate crisis"...ie; banning gas appliances?

Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2023 12:48 PM (AwYPR)

171 Because they have been raped and mutilated and that would be bad PR (I assume.)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 21, 2023 12:40 PM (9r+sQ)

Yes, but Arabs have always held dead bodies to emotionally torture their enemies: I give you Eli Cohen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2023 12:48 PM (pVWRI)

172 My opinions on the wisdom or folly of Israel’s actions here are useless and would be uninformed, so, no opining here..

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (PCK5/)

173 Of course finding and regaining control of the hostages is a primary goal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (i9ffA)
If you are serous about eliminating Hamas, the hostages must be written off. There is only one goal, the elimination of Hamas and their support system.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (pohLc)

174 >>>especially now that leftists are waving banners that victory for Hamas is necessary to put Roe v Wade back into effect. (I guess Gaza being a paradise for trannies got debunked too well).

*pause*
What?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:46 PM (zZu0s)

There were banners at one of the protests the other day that "Palestinian" "liberation" will lead to unrestricted abortion on demand. Seriously.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (FD5dr)

175 I would not say no to a thorough study of busty redheads v busty brunettes v busty blondes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Huzzah!

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (CIS44)

176 172 My opinions on the wisdom or folly of Israel’s actions here are useless and would be uninformed, so, no opining here..
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (PCK5/)

Mine too but I opined anyway

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (bs+z0)

177 Hostage release deal outline: 12 to be released each day, respite set for 4 days
A political official outlined the agreement for the release of the hostages in Gaza - which may be expanded during implementation. Assessment: The move will begin on Thursday.
_Israel National News

Posted by: Braenyard at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (SHylA)

178 My opinions on the wisdom or folly of Israel’s actions here are useless and would be uninformed, so, no opining here..

This is not the AOSHQ way.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (I/Qkd)

179 I dunno, I can't see Israel settling for a bad deal.
If there is any agreement, big if, I'd imagine it'll be something a reasonable person could look at and understand. I mean, the IDF is taking the positions it wants, hamas won't be stopping them. There is little reason to take a bad deal.
Israel actually cares about human life, so I guess that's an area the two cannot agree on.
I just don't see Israel caving this time.

Posted by: Inogame at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (53oGX)

180 There were banners at one of the protests the other day that "Palestinian" "liberation" will lead to unrestricted abortion on demand. Seriously.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (FD5dr)

...
What?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (zZu0s)

181 167 150 ucking TWO posts on Israel on an American blog. WTF people??????

-- Kittentooth
Posted by: Elric Blade

I demand four posts on the Bald Eagle and at least thirteen on the American Flag, NOW!
-Kittentooth, probably
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:44 PM (CIS44)

I would not say no to a thorough study of busty redheads v busty brunettes v busty blondes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (zZu0s)
________________

Busty purple-hairs?

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (iFTx/)

182 Hamas will break this cease fire like have done every single other time.

Then, light 'em up and sell the resulting glass as paperweights and give the proceeds to the families of the fallen.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (7oKtF)

183 Read the comments. Good to see a few folks understanding that if the US is involved, and we are, it's not in the best interests of long term security of Israel.

At least one newsreader from our "greatest ally" tends to agree with you.

https://tinyurl.com/2da7bssf

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (74ypc)

184 178 My opinions on the wisdom or folly of Israel’s actions here are useless and would be uninformed, so, no opining here..

This is not the AOSHQ way.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (I/Qkd)

That is just NOT how things are done here on the internet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (zZu0s)

185 126 82 Oh and by the way, hamas refuses to release dead bodies in this so called transfer????

Vile pigs
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Because they have been raped and mutilated and that would be bad PR (I assume.)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 21, 2023 12:40 PM (9r+sQ)

When the released female hostages finally tell their stories, that will not be great PR for them, either.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (6I/4s)

186 174 >>>especially now that leftists are waving banners that victory for Hamas is necessary to put Roe v Wade back into effect. (I guess Gaza being a paradise for trannies got debunked too well).

*pause*
What?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:46 PM (zZu0s)

There were banners at one of the protests the other day that "Palestinian" "liberation" will lead to unrestricted abortion on demand. Seriously.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (FD5dr)

A significant portion of the American public is completely fucking retarded.

Posted by: And they vote! at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (8vw5b)

187 Busty purple-hairs?
Posted by: Elric Blade

*vomits on lap*

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (CIS44)

188 Busty purple-hairs?
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM (iFTx/)

If they're the right sort.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (zZu0s)

189 183 Read the comments. Good to see a few folks understanding that if the US is involved, and we are, it's not in the best interests of long term security of Israel.

On that we can agree

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (bs+z0)

190
One report was that Yahyah (the leader in Gaza) was believed to be hiding in the south, somewhere near Gaza.

Get your Yahyah OUT!

Posted by: Mick Jagger at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (63Dwl)

191 A significant portion of the American public is completely fucking retarded.
Posted by: And they vote! at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (8vw5b)

You ain't just whistlin' Dixie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (zZu0s)

192 This is an awful decision. I suspect we, the US, used continued financial and material support as leverage. Or Israel simply lost the will seeing their own casualties mount.
Posted by: Game Theory at November 21, 2023 12:45 PM (QYUcu)

I think the reason it appears awful is that we don't realize (because the IDF does NOT embed reporters with their troops) how much ground the IDF has taken over the last week. They feel that they are now in complete command of the battle areas. If I would guess, I would hazard that they are trying to come up with a way to keep the remaining Hamas leadership from simply slaughtering all the remaining hostages and committing suicide with a hand grenade. Even Sun Tzu said "always give your enemy some hope of retreat, to keep him from desperation."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (i9ffA)

193 You want to know what a real hero looks like? Here is a guy, Oz Davidson, with big brass ones who drove back time and again in his van to save 120 people from the Nova Festival. He came face to face with the terrorists, was shot at and saw some horrific things which he describes. This is how ypu do it.

https://tinyurl.com/4t5yw4j8

Posted by: Marcus T at November 21, 2023 12:52 PM (Edo3/)

194 Every single time I've read about hostage exchanges with the Palestinians, the Palestinians get a healthy, living terrorist and the Israelis get "remains."

This is what will happen this time, count on it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 21, 2023 12:52 PM (p+1gI)

195 In fact, the IDF announced that they are now entering the "second phase" of the war, that they have achieved most of their ground objectives, and that the aerial and ground campaigns would be slackened now and focused mainly on identifying, searching, and destroying the remaining tunnels.

I hadn't seen that, but it fits my hypotheses. They've completely seized (or, at least, surrounded) northern Gaza, which was there goal, so there's less urgency now. Any Hamas guys inside are trapped, and (hopefully) more Palestinians that I've there will flee south (with Israel's blessing), making what I assume with be the annexation of Northern Gaza that much easier.

Posted by: Military Moron at November 21, 2023 12:52 PM (jmd+r)

196 All offensive operations become disjointed over time and culminate, requiring time to reconsolidate and plan more coordinated future operations.
---------
Friction!

Posted by: zombie Carl von Clausewitz at November 21, 2023 12:52 PM (krqg6)

197 One report was that Yahyah (the leader in Gaza) was believed to be hiding in the south, somewhere near Gaza.

Get your Yahyah OUT!
Posted by: Mick Jagger at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (63Dwl)

lol I meant to say Rafah!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:52 PM (i9ffA)

198 187 Busty purple-hairs?
Posted by: Elric Blade

*vomits on lap*
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (CIS44)
_________

Not all purple-hairs are leftwing clam-digging twats. Some are hotties who like guys.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:52 PM (iFTx/)

199 I would not say no to a thorough study of busty redheads v busty brunettes v busty blondes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:47 PM (zZu0s)

My vote is for busty redheads. Jessica Rabbit FTW.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 21, 2023 12:53 PM (Q0kLU)

200 At this point in his life the Beebster is a political animal. It's bad for him politically if Hamas regroups to attack...sucks to be Hamas.

Posted by: DOYLE at November 21, 2023 12:53 PM (Z8Yh2)

201 A significant portion of the American public is completely fucking retarded.

I think this is actually the liberal-industrial complex trying to keep everyone on-side. Protest fatigue is a thing, especially with the physical condition of many of the protesters, so "Netanyahu is coming for your snizz" will keep the AWFLs busy.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:53 PM (FD5dr)

202 If it must be, it's gotta be every single hostage that is not a military-aged man.

And the moment the "pause" is over, it's armageddon for the hamassholes.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 21, 2023 12:53 PM (4ZE6o)

203 >> Biden is a foreign policy genius

If he's such a foreign policy genius why are we now involved in 2 proxy wars with China getting jiggy at the same time?

Odd, I don't seem to remember these wars starting under that crazy orange dude.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2023 12:53 PM (ZLI7S)

204 Busty purple-hairs?
Posted by: Elric Blade

*vomits on lap*
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (CIS44)
_________

Not all purple-hairs are leftwing clam-digging twats. Some are hotties who like guys.
Posted by: Elric Blade a

While this is true, the vast majority are tirggly-puffs and i dont wanna risk it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:54 PM (CIS44)

205 "Can I watch?"

-- David French
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:45 PM

Again? Geez, isn't 5 nights per weel enough David?

Posted by: Mrs. French. at November 21, 2023 12:54 PM (bqazj)

206 Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:35 PM (xaFKb)

Would it though? I feel like people on the side of "Hamas" have a damn good idea what they are.

Posted by: JCG at November 21, 2023 12:54 PM (awpR3)

207 If I were in charge of Israel (or really any country) there should be zero hostage/prisoner trades.

It just incentives the taking of hostages, and we know what side is going to engage in that. Now even more so.

If there was zero military value to taking hostages, you'd see a dramatic decrease.

Posted by: Blago at November 21, 2023 12:54 PM (wMRY8)

208 Not all purple-hairs are leftwing clam-digging twats. Some are hotties who like guys.

Danger hair indicates "wrong side of the hot/crazy line" in 9.9 out of 10 cases.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:54 PM (FD5dr)

209 Claim: Israel and Hamas Are Close to Reaching a Deal for the Release of Some Hostages

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Hey, remember last week when the U.S. gave Iran ten billion dollars without asking for a single thing in return?

The same Iran that Biden himself stated is supporting Palestine/Hamas just a month before.

Posted by: Nikki Haley is trying to do better and apologizes for teasing and making fun at November 21, 2023 12:54 PM (ZLyax)

210 206 Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:35 PM (xaFKb)

Burning babies alive in front of their parents isn't enough ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2023 12:55 PM (bs+z0)

211
There were banners at one of the protests the other day that "Palestinian" "liberation" will lead to unrestricted abortion on demand. Seriously.
Posted by: Ian S.

Were they for it or against it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 21, 2023 12:55 PM (63Dwl)

212

They are giving the women back because they are all stretched out and ripped up... At this point it's throwing a micro hot dog down a hallway...

Posted by: Just Sayin at November 21, 2023 12:55 PM (HRQvT)

213 Must have missed something...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:39 PM (xcxpd)

Eh, commenter just wanted to call balls and strikes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:43 PM (zZu0s)

Ah, well that'll happen now and again.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:55 PM (xcxpd)

214 One major remaining fight appears to be at the so-called Indonesian Hospital, but IDF tanks are already on the roads next to it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:55 PM (i9ffA)

215 Believe a deal when I see it

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2023 12:56 PM (fwDg9)

216 Not all purple-hairs are leftwing clam-digging twats. Some are hotties who like guys.
Posted by: Elric Blade

A florescent green haired woman opened the door me the other day and said "Good morning, how are you?" We exchanged pleasantries and when we said our goodbyes she said "Have a blessed day!"

I felt bad as I had her id'd as a nag.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2023 12:56 PM (qoGsy)

217 208 Not all purple-hairs are leftwing clam-digging twats. Some are hotties who like guys.

Danger hair indicates "wrong side of the hot/crazy line" in 9.9 out of 10 cases.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:54 PM (FD5dr)

You're not wrong.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:56 PM (xcxpd)

218 Not all purple-hairs are leftwing clam-digging twats. Some are hotties who like guys.

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Did anyone say gay men can can't have purple hair?

Posted by: Nikki Haley is trying to do better and apologizes for teasing and making fun at November 21, 2023 12:56 PM (ZLyax)

219 206 Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:35 PM (xaFKb)

Would it though? I feel like people on the side of "Hamas" have a damn good idea what they are.
Posted by: JCG at November 21, 2023 12:54 PM (awpR3)

-----
Refusing to look at proof is not the same as no proof.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 21, 2023 12:56 PM (7oKtF)

220 Israel and Hamas both having to engage in the PR /"international opinion" front.
And Hamas gets to unload some of the most fragile/sickest who take too many resources to keep alive and least likely to maintain bargaining chip status.

Posted by: Zek at November 21, 2023 12:56 PM (5FPX4)

221 204 Busty purple-hairs?
Posted by: Elric Blade

*vomits on lap*
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:51 PM (CIS44)
_________

Not all purple-hairs are leftwing clam-digging twats. Some are hotties who like guys.
Posted by: Elric Blade a

While this is true, the vast majority are tirggly-puffs and i dont wanna risk it.
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:54 PM (CIS44)
___________

Lots of pretty Asian purple-hairs in NYC. I assume there's some anime character or K-Pop girl group or someone trendy with that hair. I doubt all these Asian girls just coincidently decided to do it all on their own.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (iFTx/)

222 Good to see a few folks understanding that if the US is involved, and we are, it's not in the best interests of long term security of Israel.

Agreed. Israel, I don't think, would bother with the cease fire if the US wasn't pressuring them to do it. However, I think they know how to balance their competing interests, so they delayed until they met their operational goals and could afford a brief pause.

Posted by: Military Moron at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (jmd+r)

223 No pause, no release of terrorists.

As Thatcher told George Sr., don't go wobbly.

Posted by: Candidus at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (6ouzP)

224 There were banners at one of the protests the other day that "Palestinian" "liberation" will lead to unrestricted abortion on demand. Seriously.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (FD5dr)

I support unrestricted retroactive abortions for all palestinians.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (a4qL7)

225 Ah, well that'll happen now and again.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 12:55 PM (xcxpd)

Indeed. For some reason the guys providing us free content and a place to hang out and kibbutz take offense when we quibble with what they want to post about.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (zZu0s)

226 I just don't see Israel caving this time.
Posted by: Inogame at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM

I hope you're right.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (bqazj)

227 Lots of pretty Asian purple-hairs in NYC. I assume there's some anime character or K-Pop girl group or someone trendy with that hair. I doubt all these Asian girls just coincidently decided to do it all on their own.
Posted by: Elric Blade

But you said busty.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (CIS44)

228 The push for making women think they have to make themselves unattractive with stupid looking hair and bad tattoos has been a tragic psy-op to watch.

Posted by: Nikki Haley is trying to do better and apologizes for teasing and making fun at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (ZLyax)

229 The US is involved? Talks will break down over proper pronouns, you just wait and see.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 21, 2023 12:58 PM (a9CYf)

230 US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said Tuesday that the possibility of the Biden Administration imposing sanctions on Israeli settlers who allegedly attack Palestinian Arabs in Judea and Samaria is "under consideration." _INN

Posted by: Braenyard at November 21, 2023 12:58 PM (SHylA)

231 I support unrestricted retroactive abortions for all palestinians.

Same. And the IDF is conveniently having a sale on them.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:58 PM (FD5dr)

232 227 Lots of pretty Asian purple-hairs in NYC. I assume there's some anime character or K-Pop girl group or someone trendy with that hair. I doubt all these Asian girls just coincidently decided to do it all on their own.
Posted by: Elric Blade

But you said busty.
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (CIS44)
_________

Some are! The girl with the biggest boobs I know -- and they are spectacular -- is Chinese.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 12:58 PM (iFTx/)

233 I just don't see Israel caving this time.
Posted by: Inogame at November 21, 2023 12:50 PM

I hope you're right.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (bqazj)

I mean, how many times and Israel get f*cked by the American government before they politely tell us to keep sending money, but f*ck off on military stragegy against a group that wants to commit genocide?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)

234 The push for making women think they have to make themselves unattractive with stupid looking hair and bad tattoos has been a tragic psy-op to watch.

Posted by: Nikki Haley is trying to do better and apologizes for teasing and making fun at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (ZLyax)

You left out multiple face-piercings.

Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2023 12:59 PM (AwYPR)

235 204 Busty purple-hairs?
Posted by: Elric Blade
......

Only if they have nose rings so I can tie them to a fence.

Posted by: wth at November 21, 2023 12:59 PM (v0R5T)

236 Sirens in Central Israel, US state dept considering sanctions on settlers if they harass Arabs .

Posted by: Ben Had at November 21, 2023 01:00 PM (GDTIC)

237 Posted by: Just Sayin at November 21, 2023 12:55 PM (HRQvT)

Wow. Stay classy.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 21, 2023 01:00 PM (/HDaX)

238 Seen on Insty: academics are now shrieking that the Black Plague in London in 1348 hit black women the hardest.

Were there any blacks in London in 1348?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 01:00 PM (FD5dr)

239 I mean, how many times and Israel get f*cked by the American government before they politely tell us to keep sending money, but f*ck off on military stragegy against a group that wants to commit genocide?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)

The last war we actually won was nearly 80 years ago. That is no accident.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 01:00 PM (pohLc)

240 >> Not all purple-hairs are leftwing clam-digging twats. Some are hotties who like guys.

But, enough about Valencia Steele...

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2023 01:00 PM (oaDrA)

241 I saw Winked, Blinken, and Nod open Blood, Sweat and Tears at The Bear's Den just last month.

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 21, 2023 01:00 PM (52yMk)

242 So the continued defense of this, by Tom Servo and Archimedes and such, is that it doesn't matter because Israel has effectively created a pen out of which Hamas leaders can not escape.

Then let's say that's true. Then why in the Hell would you stop, for five days, with such an overwhelming advantage ? Especially if you desire to get those hostages ? Trading those poor, stupid Hamas leaders something they obviously want - time - in return for nothing seems like a really stupid ask by Team Green then, doesn't it ?

This is all fantasy. Hamas is not stupid. They want time because time is in their favor. If they were really "completely surrounded" there would be no discussion - because there would be nothing left to discuss. It takes thirty seconds to kill a hostage.

We're talking five days here. Hamas wanted those days because they matter. And Israel is chasing fool's gold now. They've just surrendered all operational momentum. Not good.

Posted by: Game Theory at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (QYUcu)

243 206 Solid proof of atrocities would undercut Hamas support.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:35 PM (xaFKb)

Burning babies alive in front of their parents isn't enough ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2023 12:55 PM

Yea, it makes no sense. The barking moonbats know of the atrocities. They don't care. They've cast their lot with actual Arab Nazi's. These are the same fucks who think Bin Laden had good points. Fuck all of them, I hope they all get ass cancer.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (bqazj)

244 238 Seen on Insty: academics are now shrieking that the Black Plague in London in 1348 hit black women the hardest.

How could they tell ? I denounce myself

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (bs+z0)

245 I immediately am suspicious that the US is involved… Brandon’s administration should keep its nose out and simply support whatever Israel might determine is in its best interests
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
+++
Also would be nice if Brandon's administration would do the same for the American people. But that will never happen.
They can't leave us alone. And they will make our decisions for us.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (dr4Q1)

246 US state dept considering sanctions on settlers if they harass Arabs .

Biden signed an EO the other day that Israeli settlers can't be issued visas.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (FD5dr)

247 We'll swap you 100 easily-manipulated Western liberal idiots for each Israeli hostage returned.

No backsies.

Posted by: The_Hoser at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (N66D6)

248 Another factor to take into account - there has always been a HUGE amount of internal pressure in Israel to focus on getting the hostages back, and I have been amazed at how Netanyahu and his war cabinet have been able to resist that pressure so far. If they can come up with some way to save a significant portion of the hostages now, it will justify to the people every decision they have made in the conduct of this war.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (i9ffA)

249 Do hate the thought of what female hostages went through

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (fwDg9)

250 227 Lots of pretty Asian purple-hairs in NYC. I assume there's some anime character or K-Pop girl group or someone trendy with that hair. I doubt all these Asian girls just coincidently decided to do it all on their own.
Posted by: Elric Blade

But you said busty.
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (CIS44)

Busty asians exist. They aren't as common but they're out there. Uusally bullied by other asian girls, too, sadly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 01:02 PM (xcxpd)

251 Sirens in Central Israel, US state dept considering sanctions on settlers if they harass Arabs .
Posted by: Ben Had at November 21, 2023 01:00 PM

Does farting in their general direction count as harassing Arabs?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 01:03 PM (bqazj)

252 Fuck all of them, I hope they all get ass cancer.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Farrah Fawcett has entered the chat.

(May she RIP)

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2023 01:03 PM (qoGsy)

253 You'd think these desert people would be better at haggling.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 21, 2023 01:03 PM (nnp+f)

254 We'll swap you 100 easily-manipulated Western liberal idiots for each Israeli hostage returned.

If DeSantis wants to win, he should reverse his evacuation flights and send liberal protesters to Gaza. They're stupid enough to accept the offer.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 01:03 PM (FD5dr)

255 This is all fantasy. Hamas is not stupid.

1) Calm your tits.
2) If Hamas were smart, they wouldn't have started this whole thing.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 01:03 PM (I/Qkd)

256 nood musk lawsuit

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 01:03 PM (CIS44)

257 238 Seen on Insty: academics are now shrieking that the Black Plague in London in 1348 hit black women the hardest.

Ike Turner?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 01:04 PM (bqazj)

258 249 Do hate the thought of what female hostages went through
Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (fwDg9)

Every time I have to look at a picture of that beautiful young girl broken and murdered in the back of that fucking pickup I want to kill them ALL.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 01:04 PM (pohLc)

259 The push for making women think they have to make themselves unattractive with stupid looking hair and bad tattoos has been a tragic psy-op to watch.

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You left out multiple face-piercings.

Posted by: BignJames

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I'M WEARING PINK SO YOU KNOW WOMEN ARE DOING IT

Posted by: Nikki Haley is trying to do better and apologizes for teasing and making fun at November 21, 2023 01:04 PM (ZLyax)

260 This is all fantasy. Hamas is not stupid. "

I think events of the last few weeks have shown that in fact, Hamas IS stupid. Extremely stupid. and murderous, and vicious, and barbaric. but also Stupid, and now Desperate.

Remember these are the people whose entire strategic war plan depended on Israel never doing what they are doing right now, and never bothering to wonder or even question if that was a good assumption.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 01:04 PM (i9ffA)

261 The girl with the biggest boobs I know -- and they are spectacular -- is Chinese.

"Build an Asian girl with big boobs and the world will beat a path to your door."

-- Shit Thoreau Said, Vol IV

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 21, 2023 01:04 PM (Q0kLU)

262 Here's the deal I'd offer. Every dirty inbred Arab can coming flooding back into Gaza City to find their missing goat pussies and crude caveman rockets and monkeypox salve if we get all our hostages. And we'll let ya go first... You can bring back all your butt ugly wives and retarded psycho nephew-sons to your squalid death hole *before* you release a single one. Plus we'll give eleventy grillion shekels upfront as a token of goodwill. A real American style deal.

Then, when every one of the sandsucking savages is back and ululating, light the whole motherfucker up indiscriminately, without regard to hostages. Burn them to ash, and then make good on their propaganda and poison all the wells for good measure. Raze the Dome of the Rock, and build a new Temple. Real flashy, a Mormon kinda look to it. Maybe throw in some velvet drapes. Deal complete.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2023 01:04 PM (0FoWg)

263 Perhaps the Israelis are keeping the US State Dept involved to keep an eye on our treachery.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2023 01:05 PM (qoGsy)

264 Hot Argie chicks dancing... and President-Elect Javier Milei.

https://tinyurl.com/2asn5xt9
36 seconds; very loud soundtrack.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 01:05 PM (krqg6)

265 250 227 Lots of pretty Asian purple-hairs in NYC. I assume there's some anime character or K-Pop girl group or someone trendy with that hair. I doubt all these Asian girls just coincidently decided to do it all on their own.
Posted by: Elric Blade

But you said busty.
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 12:57 PM (CIS44)

Busty asians exist. They aren't as common but they're out there. Uusally bullied by other asian girls, too, sadly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 01:02 PM (xcxpd)
___________

Most Korean, Japanese, and Chinese girls with big boobs are fake. But usually very high quality boob jobs. Filipinas and Southeast Asian (Vietnamese, Thai, etc) often have naturally big boobs. I'll fight anyone who says Vietnamese girls aren't smokeshows. They're tiny, but hot AF.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 01:05 PM (iFTx/)

266 Do hate the thought of what female hostages went through
Posted by: Skip

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The little American Jew toddler whose American Jew parents were both killed.

And not a peep from America.

Posted by: Nikki Haley is trying to do better and apologizes for teasing and making fun at November 21, 2023 01:05 PM (ZLyax)

267 224 There were banners at one of the protests the other day that "Palestinian" "liberation" will lead to unrestricted abortion on demand. Seriously.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 12:49 PM (FD5dr)

I support unrestricted retroactive abortions for all palestinians.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----

One of our presidential candidates said
We have tapes of the Hamas protesters [in the US] and when elected we will identify and deport each and every one of them.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 21, 2023 01:05 PM (SHylA)

268 YD, hear hear!!!

Posted by: Ben Had at November 21, 2023 01:07 PM (GDTIC)

269 263 Perhaps the Israelis are keeping the US State Dept involved to keep an eye on our treachery.

Posted by: Tonypete
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Aye laddie, that's second level thinking.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 21, 2023 01:07 PM (SHylA)

270 Seen on Insty: academics are now shrieking that the Black Plague in London in 1348 hit black women the hardest.

Were there any blacks in London in 1348?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 01:00 PM (FD5dr)

------------

London Moors? About as prevalent as London Werewolves, and undoubtedly their hair was perfect!

And I don't know if the All Blacks New Zealand Men's National Rugby Union Team was around back then ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 21, 2023 01:08 PM (52yMk)

271 Release all hostages, unconditional surrender or be reduced to rubble.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at November 21, 2023 01:09 PM (gxokI)

272 Hamas is going to cease being an active operation. They should probably make as many deals as they can as soon as possible because option b is death and total devastation of resources

Posted by: Joe Kidsniffer at November 21, 2023 01:09 PM (3TalN)

273 I think events of the last few weeks have shown that in fact, Hamas IS stupid.

No. This is, quite literally, the blind spot of Modern Western Civ. You're doing it right now. The assumption that all groups share a common set of goals, regarding things that Western Civ has held dear for the last several hundred years.

Hamas, and frankly that region of the globe, doesn't care about general "advancement" in the same way you do, or in the same way you understand human nature. Because you don't understand general human nature. You understand "your" human nature, and none other.

Hamas went about their goals with brutal efficiency and logic. They are achieving their goals, even now, with this pause. The pause suits their ends. This is the blind spot, right here, that continually screws Western diplomacy globally and frankly Western politics. The idea that every is the same, at the core. They are not.

Posted by: Game Theory at November 21, 2023 01:10 PM (QYUcu)

274 Javier Milei looks like he's Irish.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 21, 2023 01:10 PM (SHylA)

275 CNN, (In part) "The deal would come after weeks of painstaking negotiations between Israel, Hamas and the US, with Qatar playing a major mediating role."

How stinking difficult can that be? Isn't the Seven Seas Group based in Qatar? Does it have operations in U.S. shipyards - Seven Seas International, LLC - in Philly Shipyard & others as 'leading experts in supplying professional contract labor for industrial and maritime industries?'

IDK, but it certainly seems possible to speed things along.

Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at November 21, 2023 01:10 PM (GshMh)

276 Danger hair indicates "wrong side of the hot/crazy line" in 9.9 out of 10 cases.
Posted by: Ian S.
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1000% yes on this

if I were single, I'd avoid like the plague. It means "issues".

Posted by: Blago at November 21, 2023 01:10 PM (wMRY8)

277 What the IDF needs is a go between like John F. Kerry to bring this blood letting to a halt.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 21, 2023 01:11 PM (ntk8v)

278 Biden signed an EO the other day that Israeli settlers can't be issued visas.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (FD5dr)

That is not accurate.

Only so called setters that have committed some undefined harrassement against so called arabs on the west bank. Bad enough and a blood libel, but let's be accurate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2023 01:11 PM (pVWRI)

279 Biden signed an EO the other day that Israeli settlers can't be issued visas.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2023 01:01 PM (FD5dr)

Oh, I know what that is. You can't let a people with actual means, fresh off a massacre, into the United States with access to jobs and legal firearms and the ability to blend into any city culturally and socially and eventually vote and possibly organize.

Why that would be madness, from an Ivy League point of view.

Posted by: Game Theory at November 21, 2023 01:14 PM (QYUcu)

280 The proggies over at moon of alabama are all crying in their beer over the situation in gazastinia.

I'm torn between laughing at them or just not caring about what they think.

Posted by: Outside of Life at November 21, 2023 01:15 PM (89Sog)

281 Release all hostages, unconditional surrender or be reduced to rubble.
Posted by: uniparty

Embrace the power of 'and'

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 21, 2023 01:15 PM (ufFY8)

282 All of those hostages will have been raped, repeatedly.

Get them back if you can, and then continue to kill the perpetrators.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at November 21, 2023 01:44 PM (UNQS9)

283 BS

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 21, 2023 02:17 PM (dTAI1)

284 We wore those jew bitches out, we need fresh meat.

Posted by: Hamas "soldier" at November 21, 2023 02:19 PM (FjlUt)

285 Why not impose a ceasefire? Do everything to get all hostages back, dead or alive, including prisoner swaps at any ratio Hamas demands.
When every single hostage is released and accounted for, let Tehran, Damascus, the West Bank, and Beirut know exactly how much megatonnage has been allocated for them if they so much as twitch.
Then turn Gaza into ash. Kill everything with a pulse.

Posted by: Tony at November 21, 2023 03:07 PM (r2suQ)

286 Anyone who uses kids as Shields should all be stranded in the Amazon

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 21, 2023 04:22 PM (wGqjj)

287 So only if all the released Hamas terrorists are injected with tracking devices, and a time release polonium pill. That might work.

Posted by: 42 at November 21, 2023 06:43 PM (Inn3Y)

288 Yeah of course Hamas won't release the raped-to-death corpses and will probably burn the ones they made. Sadly, every woman they raped will probably be executed before they allow them to be rescued or released. Dead women tell no tales.

I read other reports of how the IDF found female bodies in the kibbutzim with ejaculate all over their backs. Any homicide cop would be thrilled with such abundant DNA evidence.

You can bet every dead and surviving Israeli rape victim has been meticulously swabbed for every strand of DNA evidence, which will be added to a Mossad file.

With that DNA you can ID the perps and every one of their family members. Useful info for when you take over governance of Gaza and its people.

Posted by: weew at November 21, 2023 08:43 PM (/uwTS)

289
So only if all the released Hamas terrorists are injected with tracking devices, and a time release polonium pill. That might work.

Inject them with smallpox, then release them.

Posted by: weew at November 21, 2023 08:46 PM (/uwTS)

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