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Dan Goldman (The New Adam Schiff) Claims That Burisma Wanted to Keep the Prosecutor Shokin in Office.
In Fact, Hunter Biden Was Working for the Illegal Foreign Agents Who Wanted Him Fired.

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Before getting to that: Devon Archer told Tucker Carlson that it was "categorically false" that Joe Biden wasn't kept current about the details and needs of Hunter Biden's "businesses."


Devon Archer tells Tucker Carlson it's 'categorically FALSE' to say Joe didn't know about his son Hunter's business deals

'They have a great relationship, father and son. They speak everyday,' said Archer

Joe Biden 'was aware of Hunter's business' and wrote a letter to Archer to 'illustrate that he knew me'

Hunter Biden's business partner Devon Archer told Tucker Carlson that it was impossible that Joe Biden would have zero knowledge of his son's business dealings.

'They have a great relationship, father and son. They speak everyday, and I witnessed that for 10 years,' said Archer.

He emphasized that it's 'categorically false' to say then-Vice President Joe Biden didn't know about his son's business deals at all.

Joe Biden 'was aware of Hunter's business, he met with Hunter's business partners,' Archer told Carlson during the second part of his tell-all interview released Friday.

The vice president wrote a letter that 'illustrated he knew me,' he continued. So it's not 'factually right' to say Joe was unaware.

Archer shared a letter with Carlson that then-Vice President Joe Biden had written to him in 2011.

'I apologize for not getting a chance to talk to you at the luncheon yesterday. I was having trouble getting away from hosting President Hu,' Biden wrote referring to China's then-president.

'I hope I get a chance to see you again soon with Hunter. I hope you enjoyed the lunch. Thanks for coming,' it read, followed up with a handwritten addition: 'Happy you guys are together.'

Archer added that Joe may not have directly been looking at financial statements, but he was aware of his son's dealings.

Hunter's ex-partner said that he initially was working with Burisma to raise money for his real estate fund, but he was persuaded to join the energy company's board by the then-president of Poland.

Carlson pressed Archer about whether Burisma saw adding him to the board as an opportunity to get Hunter or another 'political power' into their fold.

Archer said he brought Hunter onboard with Burisma initially as counsel.

'I'm calling bulls**** on just this one thing,' responded Carlson.

D.C. is 'a city filled with law firms...a lot that deal with foreign transactions.'

And Hunter Biden didn't have that experience at all, Carlson pointed out.

'That's an influence play,' Carlson said, to which Archer agreed.

You no doubt remember Dan Goldman -- aka New Adam Schiff -- coming out of the closed-door interrogation of Devon Archer saying that what he had gleaned from that interview as only an "illusion of access" to Joe Biden and Joe Biden's bureaucrat allies, not actual access.

Well, he didn't come out of the hearing with that phrase in mind. He went into the hearing with that phrase in mind.

During the hearing, he repeatedly "badgered" Devon Archer to agree that Hunter Biden had only delivered the Quote Illusion of Access Unquote.


It was all an illusion, said Rep. Daniel Goldman, New York Democrat. He said Archer "used that term" to describe the non-role of Vice President Biden.

Spoiler: Dan Goldman is lying. He used that term.


"Hunter Biden possessed actual experience and contacts in Washington, D.C., in the political sphere," Mr. Goldman, who led the questioning for Democrats, told reporters after the deposition. "And that is ultimately what he was providing to Burisma."

Mr. Goldman said Burisma executives had pressured Hunter Biden to do "more" to help them escape a criminal investigation.

At that point, he said Archer told them, the president's son "had to give the illusion -- he used that term -- the illusion of access to his father. And he tried to get credit for things that Mr. Archer testified Hunter had nothing to do with."

It was Mr. Goldman who repeatedly badgered Archer to define the business scheme as "an illusion of access" to Vice President Biden.

The transcript shows that Mr. Goldman used the term six times, telling Archer repeatedly, "It's not about selling access to his father. It's about selling the illusion of access to his father."

After a half-dozen such proclamations from Mr. Goldman, Archer finally repeated the term "illusion" one time when answering Mr. Goldman.

Archer, who is facing one year in prison on an unrelated securities fraud conviction, called the illusion reference "almost fair."

He allowed it was "almost" fair to say that. What a ringing endorsement of Dan Goldman's talking point!

Goldman, the New Adam Schiff, also claimed that Burisma wanted to keep the prosecutor Shokin in office, and that Joe Biden was therefore going against their desires when he held up a $1 billion aid package unless Ukraine fired Shokin.

You may be somewhat shocked to learn that, get this, Dan Goldman, the New Adam Schiff, lied about what he had learned from secret government evidence.

If you can imagine such a thing!


Mr. Goldman spun Archer's recollection to reporters. He said Archer told lawmakers that Burisma did not want Mr. Shokin fired. Burisma executives wanted him to remain in office because they felt they could control him, he claims Archer said.

That was not what Archer told House investigators.

He told lawmakers that neither Hunter Biden nor executives from Burisma said they wanted Shokin to stay in power.

"That was spun to me from various folks in D.C., not Hunter specifically, but that was what I was led to believe," Archer said. "Whether it's true or not, I cannot speculate."

Democrats are eager to kill the narrative that Mr. Biden helped push out Mr. Shokin on behalf of his son. They argue that Mr. Shokin was ousted for failing to prosecute corruption.

According to congressional lawmakers, two months before Mr. Shokin's firing, he announced the seizure of property from Burisma Holding's founder, Mykola Zlochevsky.

Lawmakers also said one of the issues for which Burisma sought help from its Washington lobbying firm, Blue Star Strategies, was "resolving Viktor Shokin's investigation into Burisma."

I hate to further Blow Your Minds, but you will certainly be flabbergasted to learn that the media was eager to repeat the lies of Dan Goldman, the New Adam Schiff, just a they were eager to parrot the lies of Adam Schiff, the Old, and Also Current, Adam Schiff.


News organizations repeated Mr. Goldman's spin that Archer's testimony proved that there was no connection between Hunter Biden's business deals and his father.

...

"My only thought is that I think Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn't have the brand attached to it," Mr. Archer told Mr. Goldman. "That's my, like, only honest opinion."

Mr. Archer said he never heard the vice president Biden talk business with Burisma executives or other business partners, but he said Mr. Biden played a powerful role in helping the company survive by phoning into his son's business meetings and showing up in person at some dinners.

Burisma certainly benefited, Mr. Archer said.

"I think that preserved them from a longevity standpoint," Archer said. "Because people would be intimidated to mess with them. Legally."

An "illusion of access" only.

On to the actual headline news:

Dan Goldman, the New Adam Schiff, claims that Burisma wanted to keep Shokin in power.

In fact, Hunter Biden and his Burisma Butt-buddies were closely connected to the man who replaced Shokin as prosecutor.

After then-Vice President Joe Biden succeeded in pressuring Ukraine to remove its prosecutor general Viktor Shokin, the next person to hold the job had ties to Hunter Biden.

Yuri Lutsenko, the prosecutor general who took over for Shokin after his ouster in 2016, had relied on the same lobbyists representing Ukrainian energy company Burisma and its chief executive for years, State Department emails suggest. Hunter Biden personally brought those lobbyists into the Burisma deal in 2015 for the purpose of shutting down investigations of Burisma's chief executive, according to his own emails.


The connection is newly relevant due to a fresh debate about whether Shokin was actually investigating Burisma at the time Joe Biden pushed to have him removed. That debate was sparked last week by testimony from Devon Archer, Hunter Biden's former business partner, who said Burisma board members were "fed" a "narrative" in which the Ukrainian prosecutor general did not pose a threat to the company.

In 2015, Hunter Biden arranged for Sally Painter and Karen Tramontano of the lobbying firm Blue Star Strategies to begin working for Burisma and its chief executive, Mykola Zlochevsky.

A Burisma executive said "the ultimate purpose" of the contract with Blue Star Strategies would be "to close down for any cases/pursuits against Nikolay in Ukraine," using an alternate spelling of Zlochevsky's first name.

"I trust Sally and Karen implicitly so I believe we are all aligned," Hunter Biden replied to the Burisma executive, according to an email found on his abandoned laptop.

Internal State Department emails from 10 months later suggest Painter told the State Department that, at the time, she was also representing Lutsenko [the man Burisma would work to replace Shokin with].

George Kent, at the time a high-level State Department official focused on Eurasian affairs, complained to other high-level State Department officials that Painter had effectively bullied him in a phone call regarding Lutsenko, the Shokin replacement.

Painter told Kent, according to a September 2016 email, that "she had represented Lutsenko's interests in the US for five years." That meant Painter, who Hunter Biden brought in to help shield Burisma from legal scrutiny, was claiming to have been simultaneously representing the prosecutor who replaced Shokin after Shokin was fired.

In the same email, Kent went on to note that Blue Star Strategies, Painter's company, had offered to connect Lutsenko with Hillary Clinton's team; at the time, most political operatives believed Clinton was weeks away from winning the presidency.

"Blue Star had promised they could arrange access to high levels of the Clinton campaign," Kent said Lutsenko had told him.

Blue Star Strategies later came under investigation by the Justice Department for allegations of unregistered foreign lobbying. Painter and Tramontano later registered their work for Zlochevsky under the Foreign Agents Registration Act but not until last year, and despite the firm's failure to comply with FARA for years, the Department of Justice closed its investigation.

No Very Special Prosecutor for Hunter's palz!

Here's what the lie seems to be based on: There was a corrupt prosecutor removed from office for not prosecuting Burisma.

But that prosecutor was the one in charge before Shokin. He was removed from office, then replaced with Shokin, who did take steps to prosecute Burisma.

The Biden team, and Dan Goldman, the New Adam Schiff, are playing a game of mixing up the two prosecutors to claim that Shokin was the one refusing to prosecute Burisma.

In fact, that was the previous prosecutor -- who was bribed by Burisma.

When Hunter was on Burisma's board, coincidentally enough!

According to the State Department emails, the Obama administration believed Zlochevsky, Burisma’s chief executive, had "almost certainly" paid a bribe to Shokin's predecessor, Vitaly Yarema, in December 2014 to shut down an investigation.

Archer and Hunter Biden were already on the Burisma board at that point, having joined the board earlier in 2014.

Here's some of that "Illusion of Access" that Dan Goldman, the New Adam Schiff, is talking about:

The long and only intermittently newsworthy part 2 of Tucker's interview with Devon Archer:

Posted by: Ace at 05:22 PM




Comments

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1 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 05:23 PM (xcxpd)

2 Meatwad for President!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 08, 2023 05:23 PM (ppBhU)

3 Lemme fix that bold sponging...
There

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 05:23 PM (xcxpd)

4 Has it always been an Empire of Lies, or just more so now?? I have lost faith.

Posted by: tubal at August 08, 2023 05:23 PM (PCK5/)

5 Dan Goldman looks like a dumber version of Michael Scott from The Office

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 05:24 PM (xcxpd)

6 We are only the illusion of a nation of laws

Posted by: Regular joe at August 08, 2023 05:26 PM (nnp+f)

7 NOTHING'S FINE, I'M TORN.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 05:26 PM (xcxpd)

8 This might be the simplest quid pro quo case in history

Burisma paid Hunter

Hunter paid Joe

Joe demanded Ukraine stop investigating Burisma threatening to pull American aid

Ukraine stopped investigating Burisma

And every one of these steps is public knowledge.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2023 05:26 PM (lc5cP)

9 >>>4 Has it always been an Empire of Lies, or just more so now?? I have lost faith.

Posted by: tubal

Me too, tubal.

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 05:27 PM (KRtlO)

10 Sacred Honor compels me to apologize for the unfortunate illusion that occurred in your mouth, madame.

Posted by: Dan Goldman at August 08, 2023 05:27 PM (SJqZJ)

11 Slf admitted on camera: and Democrats thought it was funny

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2023 05:28 PM (MOY79)

12 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 08, 2023 05:28 PM (T4tVD)

13 It's a good thing Goldman is inheriting the Levi Strauss money. He couldn't make it on brains or charm.

Posted by: huerfano at August 08, 2023 05:28 PM (7zEAH)

14 I read all of the Founding Documents as a kid.

I had no Faith to lose.

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:28 PM (SJqZJ)

15 >>>NOTHING'S FINE, I'M TORN

lol, i don't get why you're saying that, but it's funny

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 05:28 PM (KRtlO)

16 It's all in service to the greater good, comrade!

Posted by: Any means to an end at August 08, 2023 05:29 PM (MeG8a)

17 WOODPECKER FROM MARS

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=-PIPknLRwtE

Posted by: FAITH NO MORE at August 08, 2023 05:29 PM (SJqZJ)

18 It's always been an empire of lies. We were naive.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 08, 2023 05:30 PM (ppBhU)

19 "It's not about selling access to his father. It's about selling the illusion of access to his father."
_________________

How very Clintonian.

Also, wouldn't that constitute fraud? People are paying for an illusion?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 08, 2023 05:31 PM (YqDXo)

20 >>>18 It's always been an empire of lies. We were naive.

I dunno. VDH has a (cruel) piece about the left's successful destruction of all phases of American government, society, and life just since Obama.

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 05:31 PM (KRtlO)

21 And all these Democrat politicians are providing an illusion of honesty.

Not a very good illusion, but an illusion nonetheless.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 08, 2023 05:33 PM (YqDXo)

22 Modern political journalism: The more a story changes, even absurdly or violently so, then most people only experience dizziness, sometimes hypnosis, but never whiplash.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 08, 2023 05:33 PM (k1Qly)

23 >>lol, i don't get why you're saying that, but it's funny

Dude do you even Natalie?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

24 Unless this Dan Goldman putz is a paid spokesperson for the junta I don't give a fuck what he thinks, says or opines.

Even then my field of fucks concerning Goldman is barren.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 08, 2023 05:33 PM (Q4IgG)

25 Dan Goldman, stupid or liar?

Liar.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 08, 2023 05:34 PM (JvZF+)

26 >>>Dude do you even Natalie?

no i get the reference I just don't get what provoked the reference. Unless it's just the general idea that we've been Torn by New Schiff's lies.

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 05:34 PM (KRtlO)

27 >>I dunno. VDH has a (cruel) piece about the left's successful destruction of all phases of American government, society, and life just since Obama.


Close friend of mine's Father is super high up in the Dem Party of NJ.

When they first floated Obama and he started sucking the 1/2 brown cock, I warned him that as soon as Obama was elected the Dems would completely abandon Form re. our Government.
That they would no longer even pretend to play by the rules.

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:34 PM (SJqZJ)

28 Dan Goldman, stupid or liar?

Liar.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 08, 2023 05:34 PM

Embrace the power of "and".

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 08, 2023 05:34 PM (Wnv9h)

29 When they first floated Obama and he started sucking the 1/2 brown cock, I warned him that as soon as Obama was elected the Dems would completely abandon Form re. our Government.
That they would no longer even pretend to play by the rules.

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:34 PM (SJqZJ)
________________

What part of "fundamentally transform" did they not understand?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 08, 2023 05:35 PM (YqDXo)

30 I am so shocked by all of this I actually yawned.

Posted by: Cheri at August 08, 2023 05:35 PM (oiNtH)

31 15 >>>NOTHING'S FINE, I'M TORN

lol, i don't get why you're saying that, but it's funny
Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 05:28 PM (KRtlO)

I blame Tubal. And my brain.
https://youtu.be/VV1XWJN3nJo

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 05:36 PM (xcxpd)

32 There is a new holder of the title. "the dumbest man in congress", and his name is Dan Goldman.


Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 05:36 PM (gmo/4)

33 What are the odds Biden tells The Weather Channel a demented lie about his personal experience with Weather?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 08, 2023 05:36 PM (Ihuf8)

34 no I know the song, I even know the original version by Antenna.

so you're just saying that we're all bound and broken on the floor. Okay I get it now.

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (KRtlO)

35 Lies?

You asked for it!

https://youtu.be/KnbQFVxiSmk

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan! at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (uPhXj)

36 Dan Goldman -- aka New Adam Schiff

If either of the mouths are moving they are lying.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (3c8Dz)

37 @29: "What part of 'fundamentally transform' did they not understand?"

Five syllable words should be illegal.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (k1Qly)

38 What's next for Goldman to defend?

Biden never said that his son Beau died in Iraq. He only gave the illusion that Beau came back in a flag draped coffin. Never said it anyone. Nope. Never haters.

Posted by: Cheri at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (oiNtH)

39 Hmmm, maybe Goldfart is on to something with this "illusion" analogy . . .

It's an illusion that Uniparty "elites" and leftist technocrats are experts and competent. Other phenomena that are mere illusions with them include democracy, rule-of-law, masculinity, employment data, science, etc., etc.

Posted by: Bamanarama at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (uH1aC)

40 There is a new holder of the title. "the dumbest man in congress", and his name is Dan Goldman.

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 05:36 PM (gmo/4)
__________________

Is he worried about Manhattan tipping over?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (YqDXo)

41 There is no shortage of Goldmans or Schiffs to deceive the American people. But it worked marginally during the Mueller inquiry, and isn't working at all now.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (+Wz5+)

42 When Goldman was interviewed by Anderson Vanderbilt about Hunter Biden it was one lying rich boy talking to another lying rich boy about trying to cover up for another lying rich boy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (po2eO)

43 23 >>lol, i don't get why you're saying that, but it's funny

Dude do you even Natalie?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

*fist bump*👊

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (xcxpd)

44 What are the odds Biden tells The Weather Channel a demented lie about his personal experience with Weather?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 08, 2023 05:36 PM (Ihuf
------

I'll give you 1 to 100 odds.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 08, 2023 05:37 PM (2YtOq)

45 I dunno. VDH has a (cruel) piece about the left's successful destruction of all phases of American government, society, and life just since Obama.

Take just one example: the CIA. Any honest history of it is a catalogue of abuses. The same can be done for the FBI. But we excused all this nonsense, largely because of our support for authority in a law-and-order sense, a sense of our history that can verge on hero-worship and mythmaking, and also because we grew up during the Cold War, when we had a serious external threat that required taking sides, and our government was obviously the lesser of evils in that conflict. I think the rot has always been there.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 08, 2023 05:38 PM (ppBhU)

46 >>>What are the odds Biden tells The Weather Channel a demented lie about his personal experience with Weather?

When I was growing up I was a black Haitian boy whose mother was a Voodoo Mamajama. She controlled the weather with chicken blood and a dead dog's tail. True story, my word as a Biden.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 08, 2023 05:38 PM (KRtlO)

47 So let's assume all these things are true, because they are, does anyone really believe that Obama, the FBI that had an office in Kiev and was working with the corrupt anti-corruption bureau NABU specifically to root out government corruption, the State Dept, basically everyone in the Obama government, didn't know everything that was going on?

Of course they did. And Ukraine is where the Russia collusion hoax started for just this reason.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 05:39 PM (ZLI7S)

48 Am I supposed to know who Dan Goldman is?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 08, 2023 05:39 PM (9OpgF)

49 Used to be these assholes could lie convincingly. Now they are just phoning it in.
I hate them Hate them all.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 08, 2023 05:39 PM (e4fEA)

50 Well nice to see Biden brought the norms of the media not giving a damn about under the table payments by foreign governments to Dem presidents back.

Wonder of all those "norms" voters sleep glowingly at night with that thought.

Posted by: Bete at August 08, 2023 05:39 PM (BRhwL)

51 >>>Take just one example: the CIA. Any honest history of it is a catalogue of abuses. The same can be done for the FBI. But we excused all this nonsense, largely because of our support for authority in a law-and-order sense, a sense of our history that can verge on hero-worship and mythmaking, and also because we grew up during the Cold War, when we had a serious external threat that required taking sides, and our government was obviously the lesser of evils in that conflict. I think the rot has always been there.

yes that rot was always there but the CIA and The Regime have turned their craft on to destabilizing America. That much is new.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 08, 2023 05:39 PM (KRtlO)

52 >>>What are the odds Biden tells The Weather Channel a demented lie about his personal experience with Weather?


Like it raining Cancer Oil in Delaware?

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:39 PM (SJqZJ)

53 The judge in DJT's Washington DC case, before she was appointed by Obama, was an attorney with the same law firm as Hunter.
No conflict of interest there, no no.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 08, 2023 05:40 PM (MeG8a)

54 When I was growing up I was a black Haitian boy whose mother was a Voodoo Mamajama. She controlled the weather with chicken blood and a dead dog's tail. True story, my word as a Biden.
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 08, 2023 05:38 PM (KRtlO)

Not enough racial slurs to be authentic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 08, 2023 05:40 PM (9OpgF)

55 49 Used to be these assholes could lie convincingly. Now they are just phoning it in.
I hate them Hate them all.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 08, 2023 05:39 PM (e4fEA)

Your lamp is getting a bit dim.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 08, 2023 05:40 PM (9OpgF)

56 There is a new holder of the title. "the dumbest man in congress", and his name is Dan Goldman.

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2023 05:36 PM

If he takes hold of that trophy, I fear Manhattan may capsize...

Posted by: Hank Johnson at August 08, 2023 05:40 PM (Wnv9h)

57
Biden is gonna tell TWC that hot summers are his favorite because it means he can practice his speaking Puerto Riccan

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at August 08, 2023 05:41 PM (qDcXD)

58 Dumbest Democrat in Congress is a big heap to climb to the top

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2023 05:41 PM (MOY79)

59 Is it just me, or does Goldman look like the Hitler Youth version of Al Bundy?

Posted by: Bert G at August 08, 2023 05:42 PM (VARTN)

60 I'd like to suggest Joe is The Father of Lies, but the title is already taken.

By his Boss.

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 08, 2023 05:42 PM (lZVy/)

61 48 Am I supposed to know who Dan Goldman is?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 08, 2023 05:39 PM (9OpgF)

I hear he's the new Adam Schiff

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2023 05:42 PM (xcxpd)

62 I don't think Goldman is dumb. He might not be the sharpest tool but he knows he's lying and he knows what happened.

He ran for Congress specifically for this reason.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 05:42 PM (ZLI7S)

63 Goldman is obviously lying, like every Democrat, but nothing will happen to the Biden Crime Family. The good news is the left will send Trump to prison and he will die there.

This country is disgusting, and it's led by a-holes.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:42 PM (CDn/C)

64 >>>Not enough racial slurs to be authentic.


You must be Jewish. Don't get me started on the Jews. My word as a Biden.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 08, 2023 05:42 PM (KRtlO)

65 It goes back to the First Tactic.. nay, almost a rule, of the Left.

They always accuse their opponents of the sins they are guilty of.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 08, 2023 05:42 PM (oHd/0)

66 The long and only intermittently newsworthy part 2...
===

Cruel and accurate. The worst kind of cruelty.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 08, 2023 05:43 PM (JvZF+)

67 If Archer knew of 20 calls, how many were there really ?


What is Archers angle ? Wouldn't someone in his position keep quiet ?

Is he mad because he is being prosecuted and they are not ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 08, 2023 05:43 PM (NtVYv)

68 Impeach!!
......


C'mon guys, this is not who we are.

Posted by: wth at August 08, 2023 05:44 PM (v0R5T)

69
9 >>>4 Has it always been an Empire of Lies, or just more so now?? I have lost faith.

Posted by: tubal

Me too, tubal.
Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 05:27 PM (KRtlO)

Well, if you go back to the founding of America, it was a very Masonic enterprise. Think of how many of the founding fathers were Masons. So, inherent with America are very Cabalistic leanings, but it went off the cliff when Truman established the CIA in 1947 and took an even greater head first plunge when both Kennedy's were assassinated.

Now add to that the 60s in general, Vietnam, 911 , the Iraq War and the Covid Scamdemic... and we are one Fricking Bleephole of a Mess these days.

I'm not sure it can be saved or whether you even want to...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 08, 2023 05:44 PM (TGPs7)

70 >>What is Archers angle ?


The Bidens left him hanging out to dry.

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:44 PM (SJqZJ)

71 >>>I hate them Hate them all.

Posted by: Diogenes


Every conservative should hate the left, but they don't, because a lot of Americans are morons. Not the good morons, the bad morons.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:44 PM (CDn/C)

72 All of our Euro allies wanted that prosecutor gone. It was a condition for the Euro allies to continue giving aid to Ukraine.
Shokin was strongly pro Putin, he fled their for sanctuary now has Interpol warrants on his ass

Posted by: Paul at August 08, 2023 05:44 PM (PQLu1)

73 47 So let's assume all these things are true, because they are, does anyone really believe that Obama, the FBI that had an office in Kiev and was working with the corrupt anti-corruption bureau NABU specifically to root out government corruption, the State Dept, basically everyone in the Obama government, didn't know everything that was going on?

Of course they did. And Ukraine is where the Russia collusion hoax started for just this reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 05:39 PM (ZLI7S)

Ah yes... remember Col. Bearclaw? The main witness at Trump's impeachment? Yeah... Ukrainian. Said he was offered military jobs by Ukraine.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 08, 2023 05:44 PM (oHd/0)

74 >>> If Archer knew of 20 calls, how many were there really ?

If only Archer knew about the calls where Hunter asked for favors on the illegal burner cell phone* he gave me and paid the bills for!

* Illegal because executive officers are required to register their devices for historical and legal purposes.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 08, 2023 05:44 PM (KRtlO)

75 > Am I supposed to know who Dan Goldman is?

Goldman's a nepo-baby heir to the Levi-Strauss empire who bought a Senate seat.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2023 05:45 PM (V1QHJ)

76 What are the odds Biden tells The Weather Channel a demented lie about his personal experience with Weather?
.......

Climate Change killed Beau in Iraq.

Posted by: wth at August 08, 2023 05:45 PM (v0R5T)

77 Mollie needs to lay offa the mashed taters.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 08, 2023 05:45 PM (pohLc)

78 democrat uniparty pieces of corrupt shit are, get this, corrupt pieces of shit.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at August 08, 2023 05:45 PM (0q+t6)

79 >>>Is he mad because he is being prosecuted and they are not ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway


Probably the above. He's going to prison, and he wonders why Hunter is not.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:45 PM (CDn/C)

80 Charles McGonigal, the former head of counterintelligence for the FBI in the SDNY, is pleading guilty to colluding with Russia and specifically Oleg Deripaska, the same guy who was employing Christopher Steele, while he was investigation Trump for Russia collusion.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 05:45 PM (ZLI7S)

81 Illusion of access = appearance of impropriety

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 08, 2023 05:45 PM (JvZF+)

82 >>>Mollie needs to lay offa the mashed taters.

Posted by: Xipe Totec


I still think she's crazy cute.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:46 PM (CDn/C)

83 Archer knew damned well how hard Joe was working the Obama AG to keep Hunter and his Brother out of Prison.

He expected some deference. And he got none.

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:46 PM (SJqZJ)

84 >>> Charles McGonigal, the former head of counterintelligence for the FBI in the SDNY, is pleading guilty to colluding with Russia and specifically Oleg Deripaska, the same guy who was employing Christopher Steele, while he was investigation Trump for Russia collusion.

oh right I meant to post that, thanks.

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 05:47 PM (KRtlO)

85 bear with asymmetrical balls wrote, "CIA . . . catalogue of abuses [as well as] FBI. But we excused all this nonsense, largely because of our support for authority in a law-and-order . . ."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Good point. It never made sense for "law and order" to be a philosophical pillar of conservatism and/or other varieties of anti-leftism. The Nazis (national socialists), the Soviets, etc. often offered big doses of authority and order. The fascists kept the trains running on time. The Chicoms have plenty of "law," order, and totalitarian-imposed authority. And now we have a DC gangster regime that ever ready to give non-leftists all the order they can arbitrarily dish out.

Law and order is a means to an end, not a useful philosophical goal - or end - in itself.

Posted by: Bamanarama at August 08, 2023 05:47 PM (uH1aC)

86 All of our Euro allies wanted that prosecutor gone. It was a condition for the Euro allies to continue giving aid to Ukraine.
Shokin was strongly pro Putin, he fled their for sanctuary now has Interpol warrants on his ass
Posted by: Paul at August 08, 2023 05:44 PM (PQLu1)

Like anyone in the deep state gives a rats ass what the Euro Allies wants.

Did Germany yearn for us to blow up the Nordstream Pipeline for them and cripple their industry?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 08, 2023 05:47 PM (eoQWY)

87 >>I meant to post that, thanks.


H/T: Commenter

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:48 PM (SJqZJ)

88 >>>I'm not sure it can be saved or whether you even want to...

Posted by: Mister Ghost


I think America is gone forever, as we knew it. The left will cheat in 2024, they'll go after regular Americans to keep them quiet, and no one will lift a finger.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:48 PM (CDn/C)

89 Schiff, Goldman, et.al., are just regime butt boys that sold their soul to the power brokers to get their slice, buy the nice house, keep their wine soaked wives in nice clothes, cars, and receiving invites to the best cocktail parties and will literally say or do anything they are told. They have long ago given up willingly any allegiance that they ever had to the United States and never once does it occur to them that the loyalty that they show to the regime only goes one way.

Posted by: Cheri at August 08, 2023 05:48 PM (oiNtH)

90 It's adorable that Paul thinks the Euroweenies are any less corrupt than Biden.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 08, 2023 05:49 PM (Wnv9h)

91 Well, if you go back to the founding of America, it was a very Masonic enterprise. Think of how many of the founding fathers were Masons.

Didja ever look at a dollar bill, man? There's some spooky shit goin' on there! And Martha had a big fat bowl ready for George when he came home every day. She was a hip, hip, hip lady.

Posted by: Slater at August 08, 2023 05:50 PM (VARTN)

92 Mollie needs to lay offa the mashed taters.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 08, 2023 05:45 PM (pohLc)
........

So.

Mollie Hemingway or Kat Timpf?

Posted by: wth at August 08, 2023 05:50 PM (v0R5T)

93 The DC chattering class is being awful quiet as regards Ukraine (other than tossing out another $100M every other day or so).
Ukraine is running out of untrained recruits to throw in to the gaping maw of the battles. They have money, they have weapons. They're running out of personnel.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 08, 2023 05:50 PM (MeG8a)

94
All of our Euro allies wanted that prosecutor gone. It was a condition for the Euro allies to continue giving aid to Ukraine.

Posted by: Paul

=============

Yeah, I heard that, too. Macron wanted Shokin gone? Merkel? How do we know? What's you evidence other than Goldman said so?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 08, 2023 05:51 PM (lCaJd)

95 >>>H/T: Commenter

if that

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 05:51 PM (KRtlO)

96 Mollie Hemingway or Kat Timpf?
Posted by: wth at August 08, 2023 05:50 PM (v0R5T)

yes

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 08, 2023 05:51 PM (NtVYv)

97 >>oh right I meant to post that, thanks.

McGonigal was also getting paid by the CCP controlled CEFC. Just like Hunter.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 05:51 PM (ZLI7S)

98 I still think she's crazy cute.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:46 PM (CDn/C)
........

Me too. In a cute and cuddly white bathrobe kind of way.

Posted by: wth at August 08, 2023 05:52 PM (v0R5T)

99 >>All of our Euro allies wanted that prosecutor gone. It was a condition for the Euro allies to continue giving aid to Ukraine.


I think you mean vote for NATO to give Aid to Ukraine.

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:52 PM (SJqZJ)

100 >>>The DC chattering class is being awful quiet as regards Ukraine (other than tossing out another $100M every other day or so).


Biden is pushing for another $100 billion to Ukraine. I'm certain the GOP will push it forward. One Hundred Billion of our money.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:53 PM (CDn/C)

101 Devon Archer's long interview is worthy of watching. It's basically the story of "How I Became a High Class Govt Con Man." And it's prevalent in DC in both parties. Int'g note, how everyone craved attention from pension funds bc they have so much money to invest, and with political supervision only. Reminded me of the movie "The Irishman" about Jimmy Hoffa's reign and how the mob and everybody else wanted access to the Teamsters pension fund, for the same reason.

Posted by: PJ at August 08, 2023 05:53 PM (G1dq6)

102
Dude do you even Natalie?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 05:33 PM


Dude, you know how small shower facilities are onboard. When Natalie says she wants to wash ashore, you let her wash ashore.

Posted by: Divide by Zero, Person of Boat at August 08, 2023 05:54 PM (enJYY)

103 Paul said, "All of our Euro allies wanted that prosecutor gone. It was a condition for the Euro allies to continue giving aid to Ukraine. Shokin was strongly pro Putin, he fled their for sanctuary now has Interpol warrants on his ass."
_____________________________

Red herring. Shokin could be strongly Putin AND his investigation could have been exposing Burisma/Biden corruption. Both things can be true.

Besides, Joe the pedophile puppet said that he got Shokin fired because he was supposedly corrupt. Not because he was supposedly pro-Putin and/or the Euros wanted him gone.

Posted by: Bamanarama at August 08, 2023 05:54 PM (uH1aC)

104 on his ass
Posted by: Paul

Only Paul knows for sure.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 08, 2023 05:54 PM (3c8Dz)

105 Archer knew damned well how hard Joe was working the Obama AG to keep Hunter and his Brother out of Prison.
He expected some deference. And he got none.
Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:46 PM (SJqZJ)


I think in simple terms, Hunter also told Archer not to wiggle or jump because it would just make it worse.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 08, 2023 05:54 PM (xhaym)

106 Me too. In a cute and cuddly white bathrobe kind of way.

Posted by: wth


Still stand by my statement. Mollie is crazy stupid hot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:54 PM (CDn/C)

107 All of our Euro allies wanted that prosecutor gone. It was a condition for the Euro allies to continue giving aid to Ukraine.

Why would this be an exhonorating circumstance? Those fools have been agitating for the expansion of NATO (on our dime) the whole time. Their whole project has been that along with the expansion of Western Europe's cultural and political hegemony over the east as it is slowly incorporated into the fold.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 08, 2023 05:55 PM (ppBhU)

108 A thing Trump said ( I think) that he did was tear off so many masks. They revealed themselves as the avaricious, venal, amoral monsters that they are. I am talking about essentially every national politician. Party notwithstanding. They are evil.

Posted by: tubal at August 08, 2023 05:55 PM (PCK5/)

109 https://www.nytimes.com/supreme court ( goes along with) biden's ghost guns regulations

Roberts and Barrett going along with the Marxists

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2023 05:55 PM (MOY79)

110 "One Hundred Billion of our money.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp "

Our money was spent years ago. The generations that will pay for this haven't been born yet.

Posted by: fd at August 08, 2023 05:56 PM (vFG9F)

111 A thing Trump said ( I think) that he did was tear off so many masks. They revealed themselves as the avaricious, venal, amoral monsters that they are. I am talking about essentially every national politician. Party notwithstanding. They are evil.
Posted by: tubal

Yep.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2023 05:56 PM (TZ75n)

112 >>I think in simple terms, Hunter also told Archer not to wiggle or jump because it would just make it worse.


No doubt they squeezed him. He was expecting the deference for a reason. It was promised.

Posted by: garrett at August 08, 2023 05:56 PM (SJqZJ)

113 All of our Euro allies wanted that prosecutor gone.
______________

We don't have any allies. We only have client states. And they're always right there when they need us.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 08, 2023 05:56 PM (YqDXo)

114 >>>Roberts and Barrett going along with the Marxists

Posted by: Skip


Still think Barrett was a terrible choice.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:56 PM (CDn/C)

115 I have always been fass-fasc-fa, oh you know the thing, by the weather. My Dad, God love him, made me pay attention to the weather when I was pretty young. Happened after Hurricane Elizabeth II, God Save the Queen by the way, created a 900 foot storm surge that flooded the coal mines around Scranton, putting my 23-hour a day steel-driving Dad out of work. True story. Not joking. Wet coal still brings tears to my eyes.

Posted by: Joe B., from Scranton at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM (AMIL/)

116 Well, if you go back to the founding of America, it was a very Masonic enterprise. Think of how many of the founding fathers were Masons.

Didja ever look at a dollar bill, man? There's some spooky shit goin' on there! And Martha had a big fat bowl ready for George when he came home every day. She was a hip, hip, hip lady.
Posted by: Slater at August 08, 2023 05:50 PM (VARTN)

All right, all right, all right!

Posted by: Wooderson at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM (4I/2K)

117 Ukraine is running out of untrained recruits to throw in to the gaping maw of the battles. They have money, they have weapons. They're running out of personnel.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Workin' on that..

Posted by: SecDef "Load" Astin at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM (lZVy/)

118 >>>Our money was spent years ago. The generations that will pay for this haven't been born yet.

Posted by: fd


The best part is when Ukraine return all the money we gave them...

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM (CDn/C)

119 Mollie is a 1.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM (TZ75n)

120 Illusion?

Words fail me at the depth and scope of the betrayal of America by those who are supposed to be stewards of this country in the name of the Citizens.

Vidkund Quisling was a freaking patriot compared to these vermin.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2023 05:58 PM (ByQRa)

121 ]i]The best part is when Ukraine return all the money we gave them...
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM (CDn/C)

I think Canada and the ECB will start defaulting on their bonds. God knows what will happen after that.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 08, 2023 05:59 PM (xhaym)

122 Forget it, Ace - it's Bidentown.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies' Brigade, Plucky Comic Relief at August 08, 2023 05:59 PM (SRRAx)

123 When fighting a war of attrition, the Russkies come out on top. E V E R Y T I M E.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 08, 2023 05:59 PM (pohLc)

124 Meatwad for President!
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 08, 2023 05:23 PM (ppBhU)



And don't forget to get your booster shots!

Posted by: President Don Trump at August 08, 2023 05:59 PM (RilAR)

125 Dazed and Confused is such a greart movie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2023 06:00 PM (TZ75n)

126 >>>I think Canada and the ECB will start defaulting on their bonds. God knows what will happen after that.

Posted by: Kindltot


Trudeau's "wife" will take care of that, post haste.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 06:00 PM (CDn/C)

127 Ukraine pay the US back?

Go back to how our Allies repaid this country for all of that Lend-Lease. See how much was really paid back.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2023 06:01 PM (ByQRa)

128 I think America is gone forever, as we knew it. The left will cheat in 2024, they'll go after regular Americans to keep them quiet, and no one will lift a finger.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:48 PM (CDn/C)

I would love to be surprised otherwise, but I'm becoming more and more convinced that your comment is correct.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 08, 2023 06:01 PM (BdMk6)

129 "The best part is when Ukraine return all the money we gave them...
Posted by: Wyatt Earp"

I'm looking forward to the tax credit.

Posted by: fd at August 08, 2023 06:01 PM (vFG9F)

130 When I retired a financial advisor asked me what is my biggest monetary concern. I told him that would be the loss of reserve status of the USD.
That was several years ago, the possibility was remote at the time.
Now? Not so much.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 08, 2023 06:01 PM (MeG8a)

131 "The New" and "The Old" are such staid and pedestrian ways to differentiate.

Consider using "the Elder" and "the Younger". Revered figures are often differentiated with "the Greater" and "the Lesser".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 08, 2023 06:01 PM (a3Q+t)

132 I think America is gone forever, as we knew it. The left will cheat in 2024, they'll go after regular Americans to keep them quiet, and no one will lift a finger.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:48 PM (CDn/C)

You'd certainly think so, but as the oligarchs become more rapacious in the face of credit downgrades and rate hikes, people will become angrier. Ideally you want a maximum of anger among a large segment of the population.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2023 06:01 PM (+Wz5+)

133 Pence cut a campaign ad of himself pumping gas. During the entire ad, the pump is beeping to let him know he needs to enter his CC and make a selection.

What a dork.

https://tinyurl.com/a26cz64y

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2023 06:01 PM (V1QHJ)

134 93 "Where oh where will we get the Ukes the manpower they want? Well, boys, here's an idea. We activate the National Guard in those pesky states running from North Dakota to Texas, throw in Iowa, Missouri, and Arkansas and, voila, we have a wartime president and a lot of likely Republican voters killed. It's what they call a two fer."

Guy Really Running the Show from Obama's Basement

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 08, 2023 06:02 PM (0EOe9)

135 Posted by: Slater at August 08, 2023 05:50 PM (VARTN)

All right, all right, all right!
Posted by: Wooderson at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM (4I/2K)

I absolutely love that stupid movie. I was only 10 in 1976, but I knew a lot of older kids just like those guys. Our "Wooderson" drove a red Corvette and still lived with his parents. My buddy's uncle had a friggin' sick Trans Am.

Posted by: One of Many Inane Steve Miller Lyrics at August 08, 2023 06:02 PM (T/Lqj)

136 >>We don't have any allies. We only have client states. And they're always right there when they need us.

What often gets overlooked when discussing what was going on in Ukraine back then is that they weren't just taking money from us and laundering the crap out of it, they were taking billions from the EU and IMF and doing the exact same thing. It wasn't just our politicians getting paid, so were the politicians of our "allies".

The last thing they wanted in Ukraine was an honest prosecutor.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 06:03 PM (ZLI7S)

137 Still think Barrett was a terrible choice.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:56 PM (CDn/C)

Call me a one issue voter, but her decision on abortion is a major one for the country. As for ghost guns, I don't care what anyone says. The Second Amendment shall not be infringed. Not by man, not by law.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2023 06:03 PM (+Wz5+)

138 Woops.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Changing his socks at August 08, 2023 06:03 PM (T/Lqj)

139 NOTHING'S FINE, I'M TORN


Me too

Posted by: Rip Torn at August 08, 2023 06:04 PM (OZjDX)

140 >>> I was only 10 in 1976

I've got a post coming up Friday or Monday you'll like.

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2023 06:04 PM (KRtlO)

141 >>>I would love to be surprised otherwise, but I'm becoming more and more convinced that your comment is correct.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

I just think Americans are just done with it. They'll eat their gruel - especially leftists - because they still want to be part of the team. The conservatives will just grumble about it, and hope we get a GOP president in the next ten years.

I think Dennis Prager said despair is a sin. I'm at that point at the moment.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 06:04 PM (CDn/C)

142 I'm here to tell you all that the next lie will be:

Biden was only bragging about something he had nothing to do with.
It was the *illusion* of having forced them to fire the guy.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 08, 2023 06:04 PM (cXpEd)

143 Still think Barrett was a terrible choice.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:56 PM


In fairness, their rifles are very good.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 08, 2023 06:04 PM (a3Q+t)

144 Ukraine ain't paying shit back. This is pigs at the trough time.

They laugh and laugh. They don't give a fuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2023 06:05 PM (TZ75n)

145 I'm not torn, per se, but I do tear confetti.

Posted by: Rip Taylor at August 08, 2023 06:05 PM (KRtlO)

146 What I find amusing is how the Before Time Liberal pols transitioned so effortlessly to the Obama power-at-any-price laws-be-damned radical left authoritarians. They certainly are flexible.

Posted by: Blutarski at August 08, 2023 06:05 PM (v9YuC)

147 I have always been fass-fasc-fa, oh you know the thing, by the weather. My Dad, God love him, made me pay attention to the weather when I was pretty young. Happened after Hurricane Elizabeth II, God Save the Queen by the way, created a 900 foot storm surge that flooded the coal mines around Scranton, putting my 23-hour a day steel-driving Dad out of work. True story. Not joking. Wet coal still brings tears to my eyes.
Posted by: Joe B., from Scranton at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM (AMIL/)

LOL. Whoever this sock is has got to be one of ole Joe's speechwriters.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 08, 2023 06:05 PM (BdMk6)

148 >>>Call me a one issue voter, but her decision on abortion is a major one for the country. As for ghost guns, I don't care what anyone says. The Second Amendment shall not be infringed. Not by man, not by law.

Posted by: trev006


Yes, I'll give her that, but I think she hangs around too often with Roberts and Kavanaugh.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 06:05 PM (CDn/C)

149 Joey Lauren Adams was hot in that movie

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 08, 2023 06:06 PM (NtVYv)

150 Despair comes to all of us, it's true.
It's no sin to experience it. It's a sin to let it define or change you.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 08, 2023 06:06 PM (MeG8a)

151 Call me a one issue voter, but her decision on abortion is a major one for the country. As for ghost guns, I don't care what anyone says. The Second Amendment shall not be infringed. Not by man, not by law.
Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2023 06:03 PM (+Wz5+)

The Supreme Court lost all legitimacy with me, once I knew about 'the Constitution is not a suicide pact' line of reasoning... so they could just ignore it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 08, 2023 06:06 PM (oHd/0)

152 I'm making $90 an hour working from home. I never imagined that it was honest to goodness yet my closest companion is earning sixteen thousand US dollars a month by working on the connection, that was truly astounding for me, she prescribed for me to attempt it simply. Everybody must try this job now by just using this website... www.Payathome7.com

Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at August 08, 2023 06:07 PM (9x93I)

153 I've said it many times before, but stories like this are not newsworthy. Nobody writes headlines like "Once again, the sky is blue," or "Yet another sun rises in the East."

Wake me when the sky is yellow and the sun is blue.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 08, 2023 06:07 PM (0FoWg)

154 Our money was spent years ago. The generations that will pay for this haven't been born yet.

Posted by: fd


The best part is when Ukraine return all the money we gave them...

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM


It's all cool...The United Kingdom repaid all of the Lend Lease debt from stuff we sent them in WWII in 2006. We literally got pennies on the dollar due to inflation but by George, they paid us back every cent and so will Ukraine.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 08, 2023 06:07 PM (QNSds)

155 142 I'm here to tell you all that the next lie will be:

Biden was only bragging about something he had nothing to do with.
It was the *illusion* of having forced them to fire the guy.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 08, 2023 06:04 PM (cXpEd)

What is amusing is he is talking about EXTORTION using Federal Money.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 08, 2023 06:08 PM (oHd/0)

156 After seeing this from Archer et al., it sure is fun to think back to Trump's first impeachment for the crime of suggesting that Zelensky look into Biden's corruption. "Quid pro quo!!!"

Upside down.....

Posted by: pikkumatti at August 08, 2023 06:08 PM (LNiNn)

157 So team Never-Trump, (and I guess team neo-NT) think the dems want Trump because he will be easy to beat.
They prefer Jeb!

Is there any support for the idea of NOT impeaching Biden since he will be easy to beat?

You would think there would be, but isn't it already too damaging to the Republic to let this shit slide?

(As for me, I think we have no chance against corruption short of societal collapse and regrouping.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 08, 2023 06:09 PM (cXpEd)

158 Some day we will wake up and there won’t be a Shire…

Posted by: tubal at August 08, 2023 06:09 PM (PCK5/)

159 The Supreme Court lost all legitimacy with me,
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 08, 2023 06:06 PM


Don't worry. We'll pack it, and get it back on track.

Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY) at August 08, 2023 06:09 PM (a3Q+t)

160 Re: 70s mystery click, I had no idea that was sung by a white dude. Always thought it was a black chick on vocals.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 08, 2023 06:09 PM (Dm8we)

161 Yes, I'll give her that, but I think she hangs around too often with Roberts and Kavanaugh.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 08, 2023 06:05 PM (CDn/C)

The fact John Roberts is on a court bench instead of a prison bench delegitimizes the institution. Trump's appointees are all guardians of the elite consensus in major ways. That was going to happen with anyone who could have passed Senate confirmation.

Nonetheless, they have also done major if not lethal damage to the more suicidal aspects of the oligarch project, especially on the matter of abortion. Killing Roe has even gotten Amazon offering "healthcare" which makes even devoted liberals start to wonder what's really going on.

The bad news is that the USA will likely not survive the coming decade. The good news is that the oligarchy definitely won't.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2023 06:11 PM (+Wz5+)

162 JackStraw, help me out here. Our State Dept tries to stage coup. Clinton is sure she's got a lock on the presidency but Lavrov has already told her to piss off. What deal did Clinton make with Kerry and Merkel ? The push to make Ukraine part of NATO for the resources,?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2023 06:12 PM (Fw7SF)

163 >>Wake me when the sky is yellow and the sun is blue.

https://tinyurl.com/2se8zw2j

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2023 06:13 PM (ZLI7S)

164 > The Supreme Court lost all legitimacy with me,

Given SCOTUS' incredibly horrible track record, I'm surprised every time people say they only recently lost faith in SCOTUS.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2023 06:13 PM (V1QHJ)

165 Joey Lauren Adams was hot in that movie
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 08, 2023 06:06 PM (NtVYv)

that film had an absurdly talented cast. It's like they all said, "Sure. I'm in. Sounds like fun."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Changing his socks at August 08, 2023 06:13 PM (T/Lqj)

166 Ukraine ain't paying shit back. This is pigs at the trough time.

They laugh and laugh. They don't give a fuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2023 06:05 PM (TZ75n)

Oh, I think a lot of it is coming right back to Uniparty.

Posted by: ... at August 08, 2023 06:13 PM (lX8VI)

167 The only optimism I have for the future is considering what will rise from the ashes

Posted by: Blutarski at August 08, 2023 06:14 PM (v9YuC)

168 Chicanery and churlishness~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 08, 2023 06:14 PM (IG4Id)

169 Don't worry. We'll pack it, and get it back on track.

Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY)

= =

I can't tell if you're talking about my butt or trains. But either way it sounds really exciting!

Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at August 08, 2023 06:14 PM (AD14M)

170 I think Dennis Prager said despair is a sin. I'm at that point at the moment.

Plant Vogtle Unit 3 has gone online!
Its producing 1.2GW† of power and Unit 4 is hoped to be on-line in Q4.

Best of all, its being labeled by the junta as "clean energy"!

All we need is another thousand or so in the next twenty years.

† it was frustrating to find a nameplate rating on the plant, every news article described the energy in number of homes and businesses that it could power.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 08, 2023 06:14 PM (p8A+W)

171
Still think Barrett was a terrible choice.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

In fairness, their rifles are very good.
Posted by: Duncanthrax


Do they make ghost guns?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 08, 2023 06:14 PM (63Dwl)

172 So team Never-Trump, (and I guess team neo-NT) think the dems want Trump because he will be easy to beat.

Everything old is new again!

Posted by: Monty Python at August 08, 2023 06:14 PM (wu87C)

173 Bafflegab and buoyancy~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 08, 2023 06:15 PM (IG4Id)

174 Damn sock

Posted by: db at August 08, 2023 06:15 PM (wu87C)

175 The left thinks this corruption is all fun and games because their team is getting one over on team Red.

Team rank and file Dem refuses to realize their own team is mocking them too.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 08, 2023 06:15 PM (2YtOq)

176 Oh, I think a lot of it is coming right back to Uniparty.
Posted by: ...

No doubt. I meant back to the taxpayers.

It isn't their money. They don't care.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (TZ75n)

177 Don't worry. We'll pack it, and get it back on track.
Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY)
= =
I can't tell if you're talking about my butt or trains. But either way it sounds really exciting!
Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney

Shut up Dylan, this is my gig.
~Sec of Trans

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (3c8Dz)

178 The bad news is that the USA will likely not survive the coming decade. The good news is that the oligarchy definitely won't.

The WEF has already pledged that there will be no elections in the West after 2024

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (p8A+W)

179 The GOP is going to give is the illusion of impeachment

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (slgIg)

180 What I find amusing is how the Before Time Liberal pols transitioned so effortlessly to the Obama power-at-any-price laws-be-damned radical left authoritarians. They certainly are flexible.
Posted by: Blutarski at August 08, 2023 06:05 PM (v9YuC)

I watched millions of committed anti-war activists turn into General Jack Ripper, as soon as the Party media organs told them to. Just like that. From "War Is Not The Answer" to "Ten Reasons Why A Limited Nuclear Exchange Isn't So Bad" in the snap of a propagandist's fingers.

They've always been full of shit. It's always been about Party loyalty. From the President down to the lowly janitor.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (0FoWg)

181 Is there any illegality that Joe Biden has not engaged in?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (R/m4+)

182 Plant Vogtle Unit 3 has gone online!
Its producing 1.2GW† of power and Unit 4 is hoped to be on-line in Q4.
-----
That's just shy of the power I need for my time machine!

Posted by: Doc Brown at August 08, 2023 06:17 PM (BpYfr)

183 What deal did Clinton make with Kerry and Merkel ? The push to make Ukraine part of NATO for the resources,?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2023 06:12 PM (Fw7SF)

I'll field this one. The whole point of Merkel/ Hollande was to deceive Russia about the prospects for peace, all the while pumping the Ukrainian army full of weapons. But most of the manportable missiles were designed for urban combat. In one sense the West did not expect the Russians to hold back from urban combat and its massive casualties. The Euros wouldn't like it, but they also assume Russia would collapse economically and permit Germany to pick up the pieces.

The problem for Europe is simple: the Russian economy is intact, as is the Russian army, and Germany has had to massively diversity away from the continent. More, Russia has zero intention of treating most current European governments as agreement capable. Expect regime change to come, just not in Russia.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2023 06:18 PM (+Wz5+)

184 The WEF has already pledged that there will be no elections in the West after 2024

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (p8A+W)

Well we're way ahead of them since there hasn't been one here since 2016

Posted by: ... at August 08, 2023 06:18 PM (lX8VI)

185 The Supreme Court lost all legitimacy with me, once I knew about 'the Constitution is not a suicide pact' line of reasoning... so they could just ignore it.

Which is insane non sequitur on their part since the Declaration of Independence clearly was a suicide pact.

So they went to war with Great Britain, risking their lives, fortunes and sacred honor, only to compose a weasel language loaded document of aspirations and hopes rather than a basis for an operational republic?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 08, 2023 06:19 PM (p8A+W)

186 > What are the odds Biden tells The Weather Channel a demented lie about his personal experience with Weather?
__________

He was with the Shackleton expedition, guided them to safety during the coldest winter on record. Also discovered a new species of penguin. It's named after his dead wife. No lie, my word as a *biden.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 08, 2023 06:19 PM (Q4IgG)

187 The WEF has already pledged that there will be no elections in the West after 2024
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (p8A+W)

I'm sure, but that also means the WEF will only survive around irradiated bunkers and prison cells, if that, before the decade is out.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2023 06:19 PM (+Wz5+)

188 Team rank and file Dem refuses to realize their own team is mocking them too.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 08, 2023 06:15 PM (2YtOq)

Well have I got a party I can introduce them to.

Posted by: ... at August 08, 2023 06:19 PM (lX8VI)

189 This is why Trump should just ignore the court stuff. Obviously at the top levels actual law means nothing. Make them come and get him if they think they can get away with it. Otherwise he's just playing Calvinball against Calvin.

Posted by: Azjaeger at August 08, 2023 06:19 PM (aoKAZ)

190 No doubt. I meant back to the taxpayers.

It isn't their money. They don't care.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (TZ75n)

I kind of had a feeling you already knew. I'll go with my gut next time.

Posted by: ... at August 08, 2023 06:21 PM (lX8VI)

191 ..., hi sweetie.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2023 06:22 PM (Fw7SF)

192 Ukraine pay the US back?

Go back to how our Allies repaid this country for all of that Lend-Lease. See how much was really paid back.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2023 06:01 PM (ByQRa)

Actually the USSR did pay back lend lease. Not sure of others, though.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 08, 2023 06:22 PM (eoQWY)

193 All of our Euro allies wanted that prosecutor gone. It was a condition for the Euro allies to continue giving aid to Ukraine.
Shokin was strongly pro Putin, he fled their for sanctuary now has Interpol warrants on his ass
Posted by: Paul at August 08, 2023 05:44 PM (PQLu1)


———

Just another lie.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 08, 2023 06:23 PM (/A6QO)

194 I was reading red it earlier.
The kids are having a hard time dealing with the setbacks on the "Spring Offensive"
Apparently CNN is starting to show doubts about a Ukraine victory and the kids have concluded that CNN is now as bad as Fox, and run by Russian agents. Hilarious.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 08, 2023 06:23 PM (cXpEd)

195 I watched millions of committed anti-war activists turn into General Jack Ripper, as soon as the Party media organs told them to. Just like that. From "War Is Not The Answer" to "Ten Reasons Why A Limited Nuclear Exchange Isn't So Bad" in the snap of a propagandist's fingers.

They've always been full of shit. It's always been about Party loyalty. From the President down to the lowly janitor.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (0FoWg)

"Those are OUR Jet Bombers Now!"

Posted by: Oldcat at August 08, 2023 06:24 PM (eoQWY)

196 I never owned a pair of Levi's and now thanks to Dan Goldman I never will.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 08, 2023 06:25 PM (3JfbU)

197 everything trump said is a lie including 'and' 'but' and 'pussy'

Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 08, 2023 06:25 PM (B1FKF)

198
Actually the USSR did pay back lend lease. Not sure of others, though.
Posted by: Oldcat

I think that's wrong but to lazy to check. IIRC, they paid back for stuff that ***survived*** the war and were forgiven for anything lost in action. Stalin accounting made sure that was minimal.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 08, 2023 06:25 PM (cXpEd)

199 Actually the USSR did pay back lend lease. Not sure of others, though.
Posted by: Oldcat

Well, we demanded and got all the British gold before we sent one damned thing. Never heard how that played out over the years.

Posted by: MkY at August 08, 2023 06:25 PM (cPGH3)

200 Nood Femmennasti

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 08, 2023 06:26 PM (3c8Dz)

201 Well have I got a party I can introduce them to.
Posted by: ... at August 08, 2023 06:19 PM (lX8VI)
----

Team GOPe hates us because we're on to their game.

Team DNC is still comfortable mocking their own because their own are stupid.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 08, 2023 06:26 PM (2YtOq)

202

Minnesota Democratic Rep. Dean Phillips said Sunday he was undecided on whether he'd challenge President Joe Biden for their party's nomination, though he defended his push for others to do so in an appearance on CBS' "Face the Nation."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 08, 2023 06:26 PM (63Dwl)

203 “That much is new”

If by “new” refers to 1952, when the CIA started dosing prisoners, military, academic types, and CIA personnel with LSD. This went on for years, at numerous universities and cutout organizations. At one point 3 inmates were kept tripping for 77 days, no small feat, since tolerance is rapidly built.

They combined this particular experiment with sleep deprivation, so they would wake up anybody who nodded off with a cattle prod.

10 years later they went YOLO and dosed Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc. The “Summer of Love” was an Op. The claim that LSD doesn’t work as a battlefield weapon is not true. It works really well.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 08, 2023 06:26 PM (J4cQP)

204 >>> 178 The bad news is that the USA will likely not survive the coming decade. The good news is that the oligarchy definitely won't.

The WEF has already pledged that there will be no elections in the West after 2024
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 08, 2023 06:16 PM (p8A+W)

"If you tear out the smoke detectors the house can't catch on fire!" -- super SMAHHHHRRT leftists

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2023 06:26 PM (llON8)

205 Ukraine pay the US back?

Go back to how our Allies repaid this country for all of that Lend-Lease. See how much was really paid back.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2023 06:01 PM (ByQRa)

Actually the USSR did pay back lend lease. Not sure of others, though.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 08, 2023 06:22 PM


The UK paid back all of their lend lease, albeit at inflated currency values.....Russia paid back about half of what they owed us...we wrote off the other half as a bad debt trying to get them to give up being the bad guys.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 08, 2023 06:27 PM (QNSds)

206

It's still amazing how the progtards accuse others of what they do or who they are.

For some reason I thought of Admiral Stockdale. Made fun of him, a legit war hero, but then put this idiot in office who actually does the stuff they accused Stockdale, and Gerry Ford, of doing.

And here we see Joe and his fuckhead son doing the things the proggys accused Don and Don Jr of doing.

It's hilarious.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 08, 2023 06:27 PM (UCNv1)

207 192 Finland repaid food aid debt to the US over a period of time. Payments made in a timely manner. Then, when it was paid off, some genius decided the repaid interest should benefit Finland and it was turned over to a think tank run by Fulbright. You know, the guy who had the Fulbright scholarships Bubba went to school on.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 08, 2023 06:27 PM (0EOe9)

208 The problem for Europe is simple: the Russian economy is intact, as is the Russian army, and Germany has had to massively diversity away from the continent. More, Russia has zero intention of treating most current European governments as agreement capable. Expect regime change to come, just not in Russia.
Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2023 06:18 PM (+Wz5+)

Yeah, there is zero reason for Russia to even consult the west when it comes to the peace treaty. I just wonder if the buffer states nearest NATO have Brazilian, Indian, or Chinese peacekeepers in place to keep them from being corrupted again by the EU and West.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 08, 2023 06:27 PM (eoQWY)

209 147 I have always been fass-fasc-fa, oh you know the thing, by the weather. My Dad, God love him, made me pay attention to the weather when I was pretty young. Happened after Hurricane Elizabeth II, God Save the Queen by the way, created a 900 foot storm surge that flooded the coal mines around Scranton, putting my 23-hour a day steel-driving Dad out of work. True story. Not joking. Wet coal still brings tears to my eyes.
Posted by: Joe B., from Scranton at August 08, 2023 05:57 PM (AMIL/)

LOL. Whoever this sock is has got to be one of ole Joe's speechwriters.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 08, 2023 06:05 PM (BdMk6)


Sock? I don't wear them anymore. Doctor's orders. He told me they can cut-off circulation to my feet. Maybe I should tell him I haven't been able to feel my feet since the Doc began the injections that make me think I'm President of the United States. I miss my socks. I liked to take them off and chew on them.

Posted by: Joe B., from Scranton at August 08, 2023 06:28 PM (AMIL/)

210 1 ..., hi sweetie.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2023 06:22 PM (Fw7SF)

Whah hello there, Miss Had. 😁

Posted by: ... at August 08, 2023 06:28 PM (lX8VI)

211 Well 1200 giant windmills running flat out would equal the output of the nuke. But average output would need over 4X that number. And windmills wear out at about 20 years but nukes last at least 50 if they don't melt down so we need over 10,000 giant windmills to break even with one nuke.

Posted by: torabora at August 08, 2023 06:29 PM (vR5mE)

212 I am sure the Marxists think they will be on top for a while, vote fraud sewed up into a science that won't be beat and 5 more years they will run the entire government including the SC

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2023 06:31 PM (MOY79)

213 The USSR received much more than they ever got or paid for lend-lease, in the form of laundered Western cash (and often direct transfer payments from our feckless ruling classes), starting in August 1949.

Nuclear hostage-taking WORKS. You'll see it work in the coming decades once again, as we go bankrupt.

Our nuclear-armed gangster regime won't be any different.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 08, 2023 06:31 PM (0FoWg)

214 This is why Trump should just ignore the court stuff. Obviously at the top levels actual law means nothing. Make them come and get him if they think they can get away with it. Otherwise he's just playing Calvinball against Calvin.
Posted by: Azjaeger at August 08, 2023 06:19 PM (aoKAZ)

This is the way forward. Ignore their so called “rulings” and if they come for you lock n load. They will keep pushing until the bodies start hitting the deck. Then see who wants to step up.

All else is bullshit.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 08, 2023 06:36 PM (R/m4+)

215
I am sure the Marxists think they will be on top for a while, vote fraud sewed up into a science that won't be beat and 5 more years they will run the entire government including the SC
Posted by: Skip

============

Do you think they're wrong?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 08, 2023 07:21 PM (2OHLy)

216 Nic update.

Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 08, 2023 09:47 PM (oK3pW)

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