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Fox Sends Cease and Desist Letter to Tucker Carlson, Telling Him He Is Not Allowed to Express His Political Opinions Until 2025
Foxweiser rips off whatever part of its mask was remaining.
"NOT FOR PUBLICATION." LOL. It's adorable that Foxweiser thinks it can control what people do with its meritless legal threats.
Fox News has sent a cease-and-desist letter to Tucker Carlson as he ramps up a competing series on Twitter that drew a combined 169 million views for its first two episodes, Axios has learned. ... Details: The cease-and-desist letter has "NOT FOR PUBLICATION" in bold at the top.
What's happening: Fox is continuing to pay Carlson, and maintains that his contract keeps his content exclusive to Fox through Dec. 31, 2024. Carlson is making a First Amendment argument for posting on Twitter, and asserts that Fox has committed material breaches of his contract. ...
What they're saying: Harmeet Dhillon, a lawyer who represents Carlson along with Bryan Freedman, said in a statement to Axios: "Fox News continues to ignore the interests of its viewers, not to mention its shareholder obligations." "Doubling down on the most catastrophic programming decision in the history of the cable news industry, Fox is now demanding that Tucker Carlson be silent until after the 2024 election," the statement continued. "Tucker will not be silenced by anyone ... He is a singularly important voice on matters of public interest in our country, and will remain so." Fox News didn't comment.
Dhillon commented on Twitter:
Harmeet K. Dhillon
@pnjaban My friend and client @TuckerCarlson will not be silenced -- by the far left or by Fox News. For all the friends who have been asking "why don't we see you on Fox anymore?" -- This is why. I am passionately committed to free speech and a free flow of information necessary for a free society. Until Fox stops trying to silence Tucker, it's not a place for me. And I feel for my friends working at the network which has clearly caved into pressure from some quarter to silence @TuckerCarlson. What you are seeing on Fox today is a censored version of the news. Keep that in mind as you make your viewing and your commenting choices. 3/ Also, where my meme wallahs at? Bring your best memes, folks! Go! For all the members of Congress, culture warriors, "influencers,"@GOP officials -- do you really want to air your views on a network that spits on its viewers, leaks oppo on its own talent, and even threatens former talent for speaking, for free, on @Twitter?! You have free will!
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First!!
Posted by: Jmel at June 12, 2023 04:02 PM (bVhJi)
Posted by: DB - at June 12, 2023 04:02 PM (geLO8)
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But, but, but--Ignorance is Strength!
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:04 PM (krQz2)
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Keep digging that hole, Fox.
Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2023 04:04 PM (pTb/Z)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 12, 2023 04:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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Fox is about to get Tucked.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 12, 2023 04:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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Ahh- Foxweiser Tush - yeah, not going to fly.
Posted by: Boswell at June 12, 2023 04:04 PM (K+UlC)
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All I can say is, I really appreciate all those great 'Muricans at Fox who have either walked out or gone on strike in support of Tucker Carlson and his ability to perform real journalism and enjoy First Amendment rights.
So many profiles in courage that it's hard to pinpoint just one.
So many profiles in courage that it's hard to pinpoint just one.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 12, 2023 04:05 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 12, 2023 04:05 PM (dQWfI)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at June 12, 2023 04:05 PM (T4tVD)
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They haven't heard of the Streisand Effect either, have they.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 12, 2023 04:05 PM (llON8)
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Harmeet Dhillon would have been terrible as head of the RNC. I really don't understand why Ronna Romney McDaniel was worried about her at all. Ronna's oh-so-much-more effective as Harmeet ever would have been.
Harmeet fights. That's not the look the RNC wants to cultivate right now.
Harmeet fights. That's not the look the RNC wants to cultivate right now.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:05 PM (/iWhV)
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"NOT FOR PUBLICATION." LOL. It's adorable that Foxweiser thinks it can control what people do with its meritless legal threats.
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Yup. Unless Carlson had an NDA with Fox for post-contract disclosures, they can put all the notices they want on it and it won't make a damn bit of difference.
Like when I get E-Mails from companies or lawyers (always accidentally for the latter) that have footers about how everything in that E-Mail was confidential.
Uhhh, no. You didn't disclose it before the message and *I* never agreed to confidentiality and we have no contract or NDA about it.
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Yup. Unless Carlson had an NDA with Fox for post-contract disclosures, they can put all the notices they want on it and it won't make a damn bit of difference.
Like when I get E-Mails from companies or lawyers (always accidentally for the latter) that have footers about how everything in that E-Mail was confidential.
Uhhh, no. You didn't disclose it before the message and *I* never agreed to confidentiality and we have no contract or NDA about it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:06 PM (t0OGg)
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No rain here......
Posted by: JT at June 12, 2023 04:06 PM (T4tVD)
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For all the members of Congress, culture warriors, "influencers,"@GOP officials -- do you really want to air your views on a network that spits on its viewers, leaks oppo on its own talent, and even threatens former talent for speaking, for free, on @Twitter?! You have free will!
Posted by: Ace at 04:00 PM
No. That's why we go to CNN and do town halls!!!
Posted by: Ace at 04:00 PM
No. That's why we go to CNN and do town halls!!!
Posted by: The GOPe at June 12, 2023 04:06 PM (Zz0t1)
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"Doubling down on the most catastrophic programming decision in the history of the cable news industry, Fox is now demanding that Tucker Carlson be silent until after the 2024 election," the statement continued.
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Nice spin, but I kind of doubt that the '24 election is of paramount concern. If they can keep him silent for that long, he's finished. I think that's the real goal, and election stuff is secondary. If they can keep him quiet for a couple of years, there will likely be no comeback. He's done, and a major anti-establishment player is just gone.
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Nice spin, but I kind of doubt that the '24 election is of paramount concern. If they can keep him silent for that long, he's finished. I think that's the real goal, and election stuff is secondary. If they can keep him quiet for a couple of years, there will likely be no comeback. He's done, and a major anti-establishment player is just gone.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:07 PM (t0OGg)
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Hey, JT, did you hear about the “JT’s birdbath weather meter that was one of the raffle prizes at the MoMe?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 12, 2023 04:07 PM (5VgIq)
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Carlson is making a First Amendment argument for posting on Twitter, and asserts that Fox has committed material breaches of his contract.
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The latter is probably the big one. If Fox violated the contract - which, based only on hearsay about editorial control, they appeared to - then they don't have a leg to stand on.
Of course, the courts aren't honest, so get ready for some serious Calvinball.
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The latter is probably the big one. If Fox violated the contract - which, based only on hearsay about editorial control, they appeared to - then they don't have a leg to stand on.
Of course, the courts aren't honest, so get ready for some serious Calvinball.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (t0OGg)
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They must really feel threatened by Tucker.
I mean, they fired him so the Dominion ntiwits got what they want.
I guess they think that Tucker's contract created some new form of indentured servitude. In perpetuity.
What's another name for that? Where you lose all of your civil rights?
Oh, yeah. Slavery.
I mean, they fired him so the Dominion ntiwits got what they want.
I guess they think that Tucker's contract created some new form of indentured servitude. In perpetuity.
What's another name for that? Where you lose all of your civil rights?
Oh, yeah. Slavery.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (lf83v)
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"Doubling down on the most catastrophic programming decision in the history of the cable news industry, Fox is now demanding that Tucker Carlson be silent until after the 2024 election," the statement continued.
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Nice spin, but I kind of doubt that the '24 election is of paramount concern. If they can keep him silent for that long, he's finished. I think that's the real goal, and election stuff is secondary. If they can keep him quiet for a couple of years, there will likely be no comeback. He's done, and a major anti-establishment player is just gone.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:07 PM (t0OGg)
Tucker could always just run himself, and then all of his commentary are campaign speeches.
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Nice spin, but I kind of doubt that the '24 election is of paramount concern. If they can keep him silent for that long, he's finished. I think that's the real goal, and election stuff is secondary. If they can keep him quiet for a couple of years, there will likely be no comeback. He's done, and a major anti-establishment player is just gone.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:07 PM (t0OGg)
Tucker could always just run himself, and then all of his commentary are campaign speeches.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (eoQWY)
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I enjoyed Gutfeld! for awhile even knowing that the "talent" wasn't 100% reliably conservative but now I just feel like they're tainted by the whole situation.
I'm not saying I would do the principled/ethical thing here either but I sure would like to think I would.
I'm not saying I would do the principled/ethical thing here either but I sure would like to think I would.
Posted by: Iris at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (foa6+)
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SO- what power does Fox have over Crier Tuck?
Contract? NDA? anyone know?
Tucker's Fox contract runs until the 2024 election.
Contract? NDA? anyone know?
Tucker's Fox contract runs until the 2024 election.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (ZGrMX)
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Nice spin, but I kind of doubt that the '24 election is of paramount concern. If they can keep him silent for that long, he's finished. I think that's the real goal, and election stuff is secondary. If they can keep him quiet for a couple of years, there will likely be no comeback. He's done, and a major anti-establishment player is just gone.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:07 PM (t0OGg)
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Good luck with that. As the Babylon Bee hilariously documented, he's just a guy in his basement that outperforms all of Fox combined. Something tells me he's just getting warmed up.
People tune in for the CONTENT, not the STYLE.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:07 PM (t0OGg)
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Good luck with that. As the Babylon Bee hilariously documented, he's just a guy in his basement that outperforms all of Fox combined. Something tells me he's just getting warmed up.
People tune in for the CONTENT, not the STYLE.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (YIVH2)
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For all the friends who have been asking "why don't we see you on Fox anymore?" -- This is why. I am passionately committed to free speech and a free flow of information necessary for a free society. Until Fox stops trying to silence Tucker, it's not a place for me. And I feel for my friends working at the network which has clearly caved into pressure from some quarter to silence @TuckerCarlson.
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Why? Why do you "feel" for them? They're working for a propaganda organ.
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Why? Why do you "feel" for them? They're working for a propaganda organ.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)
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Hey, JT, did you hear about the “JT’s birdbath weather meter that was one of the raffle prizes at the MoMe?
I'm still chuckling at that.
I'm still chuckling at that.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (Xrfse)
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This is amazing. So you can sign away your free speech rights? Huh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zZu0s)
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For all the members of Congress, culture warriors, "influencers,"@GOP officials -- do you really want to air your views on a network that spits on its viewers, leaks oppo on its own talent, and even threatens former talent for speaking, for free, on @Twitter?! You have free will!
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Yes, they do. They're in the Complex.
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Yes, they do. They're in the Complex.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)
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How does this benefit Fox?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zssUw)
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So many profiles in courage that it's hard to pinpoint just one.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
It's funny because there aren't any.
*totes not socking Ben*
Hello from the East Coast Hudson Valley school of comportment and good manners for young men (and women). Where they are taught how to become high efficiency Blue Falcons and knife their buddy in the back for even the slightest gain. They may also learn some small bit of military history, or leadership, but becoming the bestest and brightest Blue Falcon is really what they learn here.
So many profiles in courage that it's hard to pinpoint just one.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
It's funny because there aren't any.
*totes not socking Ben*
Hello from the East Coast Hudson Valley school of comportment and good manners for young men (and women). Where they are taught how to become high efficiency Blue Falcons and knife their buddy in the back for even the slightest gain. They may also learn some small bit of military history, or leadership, but becoming the bestest and brightest Blue Falcon is really what they learn here.
Posted by: BifBewalski at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (5/1EN)
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I'm pretty sure that unless he gets a Dem judge, this can't hold up in court.
They'll probably want to try the suit in DC...
They'll probably want to try the suit in DC...
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (krQz2)
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Musk. Carlson. Whitlock. I've been saying this for some time, this is the new triumvirate of media going forward.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (bYtw0)
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Harmeet Dhillon trying to whip up some spirit among Republican members of the Uniparty is so retro-cool!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (HUUcW)
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I didn't know Harmeet was repping him. Very, very good news. And he posted a tweet that basically told them to pound sand.
Posted by: Peaches at June 12, 2023 04:10 PM (14URa)
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What's another name for that? Where you lose all of your civil rights?
Oh, yeah. Slavery.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (lf83v)
I forget the name of the player, but back in the days of the Reserve Clause in baseball where the team could compel you to play under a contract forever a protesting player said "Ain't nobody selling my body unless I get half"
Oh, yeah. Slavery.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (lf83v)
I forget the name of the player, but back in the days of the Reserve Clause in baseball where the team could compel you to play under a contract forever a protesting player said "Ain't nobody selling my body unless I get half"
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:10 PM (eoQWY)
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17 Hey, JT, did you hear about the “JT’s birdbath weather meter that was one of the raffle prizes at the MoMe?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 12, 2023 04:07 PM (5VgIq)
:-) I have the official weatherstation and it was raining here!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 12, 2023 04:07 PM (5VgIq)
:-) I have the official weatherstation and it was raining here!
Posted by: Iris at June 12, 2023 04:10 PM (foa6+)
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Keep digging that hole, Fox.
Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2023 04:04 PM (pTb/Z)
.......
Done screwed the pooch.
Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2023 04:04 PM (pTb/Z)
.......
Done screwed the pooch.
Posted by: wth at June 12, 2023 04:10 PM (v0R5T)
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What the hell happened last thread. I am trying to do paperwork and it just looks... bizarre.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 12, 2023 04:10 PM (zZu0s)
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The Fox website continues to post all the current pro anti woke news and reports. Hopefully the Leftists at Fox will continue to ignore that news division.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2023 04:10 PM (MNhXM)
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Tucker seems to have found a unique platform- he could be our Thomas Paine
Posted by: DB - at June 12, 2023 04:10 PM (geLO8)
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Of course, the courts aren't honest, so get ready for some serious Calvinball.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (t0OGg)
He would have suggested a serious gag order or disparagement clause for the first to even fly - and you can't sign away your Constitutional rights in the first instance. Even gag orders have serious limits and don't often make it past the first appeal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (t0OGg)
He would have suggested a serious gag order or disparagement clause for the first to even fly - and you can't sign away your Constitutional rights in the first instance. Even gag orders have serious limits and don't often make it past the first appeal.
Posted by: Boswell at June 12, 2023 04:10 PM (K+UlC)
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May it be GOD's Will that Tucker Carlson and his family be kept safe as he fights against evil in high places.
Amen
Amen
Posted by: Eromero at June 12, 2023 04:11 PM (Uv0D2)
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26 This is amazing. So you can sign away your free speech rights? Huh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zZu0s)
I believe certain clauses in contracts can be considered null and void if they conflict with the laws of the country, state, and/or local.
That being said, you can engage in an NDA and be expected not to talk about certain things.
No way to know without seeing the contract.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zZu0s)
I believe certain clauses in contracts can be considered null and void if they conflict with the laws of the country, state, and/or local.
That being said, you can engage in an NDA and be expected not to talk about certain things.
No way to know without seeing the contract.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 12, 2023 04:11 PM (ynpvh)
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Dear Fox Management:
Do we really have to go all Bud Light on you before you realize that you are killing your brand?
- Asking for a friend
Do we really have to go all Bud Light on you before you realize that you are killing your brand?
- Asking for a friend
Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at June 12, 2023 04:11 PM (WlIXW)
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How does this benefit Fox?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zssUw)
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Because it makes their DNC clients happy if they can take out a major commentator who very likely is not going to say what they want.
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zssUw)
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Because it makes their DNC clients happy if they can take out a major commentator who very likely is not going to say what they want.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:11 PM (krQz2)
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28 How does this benefit Fox?
_________
Dominion is shamelessly pestering Fox like the Duke brothers pleading "Turn those machines back on!"
_________
Dominion is shamelessly pestering Fox like the Duke brothers pleading "Turn those machines back on!"
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 12, 2023 04:11 PM (lf83v)
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Don't worry. Hannity's interview with Newsom will save them.
Posted by: wth at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (v0R5T)
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When does Fox hire Don LeMon?
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (W7Wi6)
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This will get interesting. Fox makes its money off of advertising, and if Tucker is NOT getting advertising dollars, how is he competing for the market?
Blatant attempt to take away his Freedom of Speech. If he is not getting paid to speak, how is he competing, especially when, under the same contract, Fox had no problem with him holding OTHER EVENTS.
Blatant attempt to take away his Freedom of Speech. If he is not getting paid to speak, how is he competing, especially when, under the same contract, Fox had no problem with him holding OTHER EVENTS.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (oHd/0)
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Right when he's supposedly going to talk about Trump's indictment tomorrow, very sus, many thinks.......
Please just call Fox fag hags.
Please just call Fox fag hags.
Posted by: UwU_Power at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (3kWw+)
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"NOT FOR PUBLICATION." LOL. It's adorable that Foxweiser thinks it can control what people do with its meritless legal threats.
I actually laughed out loud when I saw that, too.
I actually laughed out loud when I saw that, too.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (N1DT3)
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If you haven't been listening to Jason Whitlock's podcast you need to start to.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (bYtw0)
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Good luck with that. As the Babylon Bee hilariously documented, he's just a guy in his basement that outperforms all of Fox combined. Something tells me he's just getting warmed up.
People tune in for the CONTENT, not the STYLE.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (YIVH2)
Style will likely come too with practice - this setup was thrown together very quickly after all.
A lot of other YT shows have shown that early warts and clumsiness before they get into the groove.
People tune in for the CONTENT, not the STYLE.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (YIVH2)
Style will likely come too with practice - this setup was thrown together very quickly after all.
A lot of other YT shows have shown that early warts and clumsiness before they get into the groove.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (eoQWY)
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The cease-and-desist letter has "NOT FOR PUBLICATION" in bold at the top
That's nice. When can we see it?
That's nice. When can we see it?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ynpvh)
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What? No Hitler’s bunker video?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (+jwou)
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I am going to start boycotting Fox News right now, except for that Hannity fellow because he really tells it like it is! Also, the young Laura Ingraham woman! I got to keep watching her.
Posted by: Old Boomer at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (zcPgo)
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One problem that I see is that fox news is incorporated in NYC. If they take this to civil trial there, tucker will lose.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ncXxy)
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Dominion is shamelessly pestering Fox like the Duke brothers pleading "Turn those machines back on!"
The funny part is that the people who dug into the 2020 election pretty much all agree Dominion wasn't a factor. Things like the truckload of ballots in PA and the toilet in GA were what mattered.
The funny part is that the people who dug into the 2020 election pretty much all agree Dominion wasn't a factor. Things like the truckload of ballots in PA and the toilet in GA were what mattered.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ZGrMX)
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43 Dear Fox Management:
Do we really have to go all Bud Light on you before you realize that you are killing your brand?
- Asking for a friend
Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at June 12, 2023 04:11 PM (WlIXW)
Hmm... I'd say you... Targeted that comment well...
Do we really have to go all Bud Light on you before you realize that you are killing your brand?
- Asking for a friend
Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at June 12, 2023 04:11 PM (WlIXW)
Hmm... I'd say you... Targeted that comment well...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (oHd/0)
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Blatant attempt to take away his Freedom of Speech.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (oHd/0)
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We're quite okay with that.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (oHd/0)
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We're quite okay with that.
Posted by: Dem-appointed Judges at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (krQz2)
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Because Baghdad Bob is so passé.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (+jwou)
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24 For all the friends who have been asking "why don't we see you on Fox anymore?" -- This is why. I am passionately committed to free speech and a free flow of information necessary for a free society. Until Fox stops trying to silence Tucker, it's not a place for me. And I feel for my friends working at the network which has clearly caved into pressure from some quarter to silence @TuckerCarlson.
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Why? Why do you "feel" for them? They're working for a propaganda organ.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)
What kills me is that, now that Tucker is out at FOX, his audience was up for grabs - at least for a little while. All any of the other talent had to do was to take up Tuck's talking points and hammer those home to the remaining audience. If Laura, Sean or some newbie tacked in that direction, FOX could have weathered the storm. They chose to remain silent. And now, here we are.
Kind of like Mumford and Sons after the Winston Marshall was cast into the outer darkness.
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Why? Why do you "feel" for them? They're working for a propaganda organ.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)
What kills me is that, now that Tucker is out at FOX, his audience was up for grabs - at least for a little while. All any of the other talent had to do was to take up Tuck's talking points and hammer those home to the remaining audience. If Laura, Sean or some newbie tacked in that direction, FOX could have weathered the storm. They chose to remain silent. And now, here we are.
Kind of like Mumford and Sons after the Winston Marshall was cast into the outer darkness.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (/iWhV)
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How does this benefit Fox?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zssUw)
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It doesn't. It's either petty vindictiveness or Party-aligned action or both. There is no benefit to Fox in this. There was no benefit to Fox in firing Carlson in the first place. There is perhaps some vague "benefit" along the lines of "the rest of the propagandists and the state will quit trying to bury us so often," but that's pretty ethereal.
It is important not to think of the news companies - Fox or anyone else - as businesses. They aren't, in any traditional sense. It isn't about money. It isn't about growth. It isn't about the market. It isn't about the customer. Jeff Bezos didn't buy the WashPo and Carlos Slim doesn't shovel money into the NYT's maw because they're looking for a financial return on investment. That's not what it's about. It's about being in that vast propaganda complex and snuffing out dissent.
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 12, 2023 04:09 PM (zssUw)
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It doesn't. It's either petty vindictiveness or Party-aligned action or both. There is no benefit to Fox in this. There was no benefit to Fox in firing Carlson in the first place. There is perhaps some vague "benefit" along the lines of "the rest of the propagandists and the state will quit trying to bury us so often," but that's pretty ethereal.
It is important not to think of the news companies - Fox or anyone else - as businesses. They aren't, in any traditional sense. It isn't about money. It isn't about growth. It isn't about the market. It isn't about the customer. Jeff Bezos didn't buy the WashPo and Carlos Slim doesn't shovel money into the NYT's maw because they're looking for a financial return on investment. That's not what it's about. It's about being in that vast propaganda complex and snuffing out dissent.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (t0OGg)
63
There used to be a guy on the radio who often spoke of The Marketplace Of Ideas.
Who was that guy?
Who was that guy?
Posted by: I miss Rush at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (DhOHl)
64
Style will likely come too with practice - this setup was thrown together very quickly after all.
A lot of other YT shows have shown that early warts and clumsiness before they get into the groove.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (eoQWY)
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Yep. And it's not like Tucker Carlson knows any professional producers or anything...oh, wait. He totally does. I expect him to have a very slick, well-oiled machine going in short order...
A lot of other YT shows have shown that early warts and clumsiness before they get into the groove.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (eoQWY)
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Yep. And it's not like Tucker Carlson knows any professional producers or anything...oh, wait. He totally does. I expect him to have a very slick, well-oiled machine going in short order...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (YIVH2)
65
People tune in for the CONTENT, not the STYLE.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (YIVH2)
Style will likely come too with practice - this setup was thrown together very quickly after all.
A lot of other YT shows have shown that early warts and clumsiness before they get into the groove.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (eoQWY)
Tucker already has equity, which is the hardest thing to build. He can get away with a bare bones operation.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (YIVH2)
Style will likely come too with practice - this setup was thrown together very quickly after all.
A lot of other YT shows have shown that early warts and clumsiness before they get into the groove.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (eoQWY)
Tucker already has equity, which is the hardest thing to build. He can get away with a bare bones operation.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (KbCG3)
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Style will likely come too with practice - this setup was thrown together very quickly after all.
A lot of other YT shows have shown that early warts and clumsiness before they get into the groove.
I think he's already fine - unlike YT stuff Tucker has decades of on-camera experience and it shows.
A lot of other YT shows have shown that early warts and clumsiness before they get into the groove.
I think he's already fine - unlike YT stuff Tucker has decades of on-camera experience and it shows.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (ZGrMX)
67
By the way, every news source on the interwebs says the walls are closing in on Trump. They've really got him this time, yesssirree Bob.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (HUUcW)
Posted by: Rev. Martin Ssempa at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (GfUIO)
69
Didn’t Dominion collect?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (+jwou)
70
Maybe Fox can get Don LeMon to interview Brylcreem Serpentor and Krispie Creem at the same time and Krispie can eat them both. Then someone on set can pull his heart plug, his anti gravity body suit will malfunction and he'll fly up into the air into the mouth of a giant sandworm.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (W7Wi6)
71
By the way, every news source on the interwebs says the walls are closing in on Trump. They've really got him this time, yesssirree Bob.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (HUUcW)
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Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. It makes no difference. The state is going to do whatever the hell it pleases regardless of pretext.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (HUUcW)
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Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. It makes no difference. The state is going to do whatever the hell it pleases regardless of pretext.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (t0OGg)
72
One problem that I see is that fox news is incorporated in NYC. If they take this to civil trial there, tucker will lose.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ncXxy)
So what's the punishment for violating the terms? Not paying the salary? No official FOX calendar?
HA HA HA
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ncXxy)
So what's the punishment for violating the terms? Not paying the salary? No official FOX calendar?
HA HA HA
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (eoQWY)
73
43 Dear Fox Management:
Do we really have to go all Bud Light on you before you realize that you are killing your brand?
- Asking for a friend
Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at June 12, 2023 04:11 PM (WlIXW)
The Murdoch Boys don't care as long as their wives start getting invited to fancy cocktail parties again.
Do we really have to go all Bud Light on you before you realize that you are killing your brand?
- Asking for a friend
Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at June 12, 2023 04:11 PM (WlIXW)
The Murdoch Boys don't care as long as their wives start getting invited to fancy cocktail parties again.
Posted by: XTC at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (sm6Pk)
74
The funny part is that the people who dug into the 2020 election pretty much all agree Dominion wasn't a factor. Things like the truckload of ballots in PA and the toilet in GA were what mattered.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ZGrMX)
Retired IT guy... worked in Software development for security software for a few years...
Without the source code, you have no idea what software is doing. Trusting a FOREIGN company, bankrolled by KNOWN LEFTISTS to count votes?
Not real smart.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ZGrMX)
Retired IT guy... worked in Software development for security software for a few years...
Without the source code, you have no idea what software is doing. Trusting a FOREIGN company, bankrolled by KNOWN LEFTISTS to count votes?
Not real smart.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (oHd/0)
75
Fox News continues to ignore the interests of its viewers, not to mention its duty to the nation.
Posted by: fd at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (iayUP)
76
So in two episodes, Tucker got the equivalent of half a year of Fox programming viewership?
Fox, your business model sucks.
Fox, your business model sucks.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (ndxKA)
77
The cease-and-desist letter has "NOT FOR PUBLICATION" in bold at the top
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What are you going to do?
They called it. It's like "shotgun".
Did they also specify "No takebacksies INFINITY!"?
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What are you going to do?
They called it. It's like "shotgun".
Did they also specify "No takebacksies INFINITY!"?
Posted by: Dem-appointed Judges at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (krQz2)
78
Carlson's producer announced he has Episode 3 coming tomorrow in Twitter, unless Fux has sent a Cease-And-Desist letter there too, and manages to shut him down.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (HUUcW)
79
Xanax stock must’ve through the roof.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (+jwou)
80
Maybe Fox can get Don LeMon to interview Brylcreem Serpentor and Krispie Creem at the same time and Krispie can eat them both. Then someone on set can pull his heart plug, his anti gravity body suit will malfunction and he'll fly up into the air into the mouth of a giant sandworm.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 12, 2023
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I think I dreamed about this last night. Only it was Megan Fox interviewing them.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 12, 2023
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I think I dreamed about this last night. Only it was Megan Fox interviewing them.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (J2vNu)
81
By the way, every news source on the interwebs says the walls are closing in on Trump. They've really got him this time, yesssirree Bob.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (HUUcW)
......
Thirty-first times the charm!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (HUUcW)
......
Thirty-first times the charm!
Posted by: wth at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (v0R5T)
82
I am going to start boycotting Fox News right now, except for that Hannity fellow because he really tells it like it is! Also, the young Laura Ingraham woman! I got to keep watching her.
Posted by: Old Boomer at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (zcPgo)
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Mom?
Posted by: Old Boomer at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (zcPgo)
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Mom?
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (DRSnL)
83
Fox News has sent a cease-and-desist letter to Tucker Carlson as he ramps up a competing series on Twitter
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How is Twitter content a competitor to cable news?
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How is Twitter content a competitor to cable news?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (fs1hN)
84
When does Fox hire Don LeMon?
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (W7Wi6)
He's writing and producing Fox's Trey Gowdy show the other night, if you saw it. Badly argued, poorly written and incredibly insulting. Does Trey even get a say as to what they make him say? If so, I wouldn't hire that guy to wash my car...
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 12, 2023 04:12 PM (W7Wi6)
He's writing and producing Fox's Trey Gowdy show the other night, if you saw it. Badly argued, poorly written and incredibly insulting. Does Trey even get a say as to what they make him say? If so, I wouldn't hire that guy to wash my car...
Posted by: Boswell at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (K+UlC)
85
Fox News continues to ignore the interests of its viewers, not to mention its duty to the nation.
Posted by: fd at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (iayUP)
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They are fulfilling their role as doody to the nation...
Posted by: fd at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (iayUP)
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They are fulfilling their role as doody to the nation...
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (krQz2)
86
67 By the way, every news source on the interwebs says the walls are closing in on Trump. They've really got him this time, yesssirree Bob.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (HUUcW)
And funny how the media is silent on the evidence of Biden corruption.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:14 PM (HUUcW)
And funny how the media is silent on the evidence of Biden corruption.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (oHd/0)
87
Praise our new patron Autocucumber!
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (+jwou)
88
Fox News: So Fair and Balanced both the left and the right despise them. Just who is their target audience? Butt Light cans with Dylan Mulvaney's mug on them?
Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (emlEe)
89
I have never heard of a non judicial gag order covering all news stories before. Interesting concept, if questionable on legality.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (lTGtQ)
90
Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. It makes no difference. The state is going to do whatever the hell it pleases regardless of pretext.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (t0OGg)
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This is true, What is also true is Trump is just the opening act.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (t0OGg)
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This is true, What is also true is Trump is just the opening act.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (HUUcW)
91
Fox gets paid via cable subscriptions.
If they let Tucker survive, people will cut the cord at an accelerating rate.
If they let Tucker survive, people will cut the cord at an accelerating rate.
Posted by: WisRich at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (G0vdT)
92
Tucker was one of the Fox employees who continually said Unless you can show me objective evidence he doesn’t see any malfeasance by Dominion.
That Fox brass implied through leaks that he was a reason they settled with Dominion is bullshit.
That Fox brass implied through leaks that he was a reason they settled with Dominion is bullshit.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (MNhXM)
93
And funny how the media is silent on the evidence of Biden corruption.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (oHd/0)
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"The first rule of Biden Corruption Scandals is DON'T TALK ABOUT BIDEN CORRUPTION SCANDALS!"
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (oHd/0)
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"The first rule of Biden Corruption Scandals is DON'T TALK ABOUT BIDEN CORRUPTION SCANDALS!"
Posted by: Media Fight Club at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (YIVH2)
94
What? No Hitler’s bunker video?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (+jwou)
What ever happened to those Downfall Hitler parodies? Could you imagine now Hitler reacts to the Trump indictment? Hitler reacts to the Bidens corruption?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (+jwou)
What ever happened to those Downfall Hitler parodies? Could you imagine now Hitler reacts to the Trump indictment? Hitler reacts to the Bidens corruption?
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (bYtw0)
95
And funny how the media is silent on the evidence of Biden corruption.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (oHd/0)
He's already said it's malarkey and he's honest. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (oHd/0)
He's already said it's malarkey and he's honest. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: Peaches at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (14URa)
96
Cannot stifle political speech. This will go to the Supremes and the commie bastards will get it up the butt.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (74g9r)
97
So in two episodes, Tucker got the equivalent of half a year of Fox programming viewership? ...
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (ndxKA)
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Probably not. Twitter is *incredibly* liberal in what it counts as a "view." If it's on your screen for more than two seconds (IIRC), it's a "view" on the public counter.
How many people *actually* viewed it by streaming standards? That is, total minutes of viewership and how many people watched at least 50% or 75% of the video? I don't know. I am sure Twitter does.
You can be sure it's a wildly smaller number than 169 million, though. Not that it matters. He was pulling in something like 4-6 million before Fox fired him. He is almost-certainly beating that by commanding margins.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (ndxKA)
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Probably not. Twitter is *incredibly* liberal in what it counts as a "view." If it's on your screen for more than two seconds (IIRC), it's a "view" on the public counter.
How many people *actually* viewed it by streaming standards? That is, total minutes of viewership and how many people watched at least 50% or 75% of the video? I don't know. I am sure Twitter does.
You can be sure it's a wildly smaller number than 169 million, though. Not that it matters. He was pulling in something like 4-6 million before Fox fired him. He is almost-certainly beating that by commanding margins.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (t0OGg)
98
FWIW, a mixed bag of news outta SF. First, the new computer system I ordered Saturday night - instead of an external hard drive as a backup, I ordered an internal.... Sigh. But, second, Wednesday's delivery date of the computer has somehow been moved up to tomorrow. And to think, I almost bit on the $173 2-day delivery charge, opting for the $38 3-day. Now back to your regularly-scheduled doom-n-gloom.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (KAi1n)
99
Krispie Creem
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (W7Wi6)
New favorite name/dig at Christie: The Outlaw Jersey Whale.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (W7Wi6)
New favorite name/dig at Christie: The Outlaw Jersey Whale.
Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2023 04:19 PM (emlEe)
100
78 Carlson's producer announced he has Episode 3 coming tomorrow in Twitter, unless Fux has sent a Cease-And-Desist letter there too, and manages to shut him down.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (HUUcW)
Hmmm.... how can Fox have any standing for a cease and desist against Twitter? Did Twitter sign some agreement?
I sense a great disturbance in the Farce.... Darth Musk will soon weigh in...
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:16 PM (HUUcW)
Hmmm.... how can Fox have any standing for a cease and desist against Twitter? Did Twitter sign some agreement?
I sense a great disturbance in the Farce.... Darth Musk will soon weigh in...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:19 PM (oHd/0)
101
He's writing and producing Fox's Trey Gowdy show the other night, if you saw it.
Posted by: Boswell at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (K+UlC)
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Did you have a couple of cold Bud Lights while you watched FNC?
Posted by: Boswell at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (K+UlC)
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Did you have a couple of cold Bud Lights while you watched FNC?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:19 PM (HUUcW)
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etired IT guy... worked in Software development for security software for a few years...
Without the source code, you have no idea what software is doing. Trusting a FOREIGN company, bankrolled by KNOWN LEFTISTS to count votes?
Not real smart.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (oHd/0)
It has remote update built in. So even if you have the source, you don't have the source of what they updated last.
Without the source code, you have no idea what software is doing. Trusting a FOREIGN company, bankrolled by KNOWN LEFTISTS to count votes?
Not real smart.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (oHd/0)
It has remote update built in. So even if you have the source, you don't have the source of what they updated last.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:19 PM (eoQWY)
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Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (oHd/0)
There is a reason Texas decided not to contract with them.
There is a reason Texas decided not to contract with them.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2023 04:20 PM (MNhXM)
104
One problem that I see is that fox news is incorporated in NYC. If they take this to civil trial there, tucker will lose.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ncXxy)
So what's the punishment for violating the terms? Not paying the salary? No official FOX calendar?
HA HA HA
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM
An 8 figure civil judgement against tucker along with a gag order would be the most likely outcome. And it will come just as the 2024 election season is getting into high gear.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ncXxy)
So what's the punishment for violating the terms? Not paying the salary? No official FOX calendar?
HA HA HA
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM
An 8 figure civil judgement against tucker along with a gag order would be the most likely outcome. And it will come just as the 2024 election season is getting into high gear.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:20 PM (ncXxy)
105
Hmmm.... how can Fox have any standing for a cease and desist against Twitter? Did Twitter sign some agreement?
I sense a great disturbance in the Farce.... Darth Musk will soon weigh in...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:19 PM (oHd/0)
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I was thinking a tortious interference claim might be coming from Murdoch-land.
I sense a great disturbance in the Farce.... Darth Musk will soon weigh in...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:19 PM (oHd/0)
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I was thinking a tortious interference claim might be coming from Murdoch-land.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (HUUcW)
106
Can't stop the signal Mal.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (ZLI7S)
107
Tucker could always just run himself, and then all of his commentary are campaign speeches.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (eoQWY)
I'm not sure that would work, especially with the precedent the judge presiding over Trumps arraignment might preclude Trump from campaigning.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (eoQWY)
I'm not sure that would work, especially with the precedent the judge presiding over Trumps arraignment might preclude Trump from campaigning.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (BdMk6)
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You can be sure it's a wildly smaller number than 169 million, though. Not that it matters. He was pulling in something like 4-6 million before Fox fired him. He is almost-certainly beating that by commanding margins.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (t0OGg)
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Yep. People will handily tune into a 10-15 minute clip of Tucker Carlson over devoting an hour or so for a scheduled program. All he has to do is churn out regular clips of that length and he'll attract an audience like no one else can.
Keep 'em short, sweet, and to the point and he'll be the King of Twitter before you know it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (t0OGg)
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Yep. People will handily tune into a 10-15 minute clip of Tucker Carlson over devoting an hour or so for a scheduled program. All he has to do is churn out regular clips of that length and he'll attract an audience like no one else can.
Keep 'em short, sweet, and to the point and he'll be the King of Twitter before you know it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YIVH2)
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What is Faux's remedy here? If they claim Tucker is still under contract while continuing to pay him, and a judge sides with Faux, isn't the remedy for Faux to be allowed to void the contract and stop paying Tucker?
Yet Tucker would be fine with that arrangement. Both sides move on.
How can a judge stop Tucker from talking in public? The judge could fine him on a monthly basis or something, but then the fine would need to be higher than the salary Faux is paying Tucker. And that doesn't sound legal (not that that's an obstacle in Totalitarian America).
Yet Tucker would be fine with that arrangement. Both sides move on.
How can a judge stop Tucker from talking in public? The judge could fine him on a monthly basis or something, but then the fine would need to be higher than the salary Faux is paying Tucker. And that doesn't sound legal (not that that's an obstacle in Totalitarian America).
Posted by: Bamanarama at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (uH1aC)
110
An 8 figure civil judgement against tucker along with a gag order would be the most likely outcome. And it will come just as the 2024 election season is getting into high gear.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:20 PM (ncXxy)
What's the damage?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:20 PM (ncXxy)
What's the damage?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (eoQWY)
111
Hey, JT, did you hear about the “JT’s birdbath weather meter that was one of the raffle prizes at the MoMe?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Nope !
Nobody never tells me nuthin' !
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Nope !
Nobody never tells me nuthin' !
Posted by: JT at June 12, 2023 04:22 PM (T4tVD)
112
What's the damage?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (eoQWY)
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Breach of contract. Reputational damage to NewsCorp. Shareholder damage. Being a super-duper bad guy. Whatever.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (eoQWY)
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Breach of contract. Reputational damage to NewsCorp. Shareholder damage. Being a super-duper bad guy. Whatever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:22 PM (t0OGg)
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Tucker was one of the Fox employees who continually said Unless you can show me objective evidence he doesn’t see any malfeasance by Dominion.
That Fox brass implied through leaks that he was a reason they settled with Dominion is bullshit.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (MNhXM)
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It totally was.
They're relying on the Dem-public-lore: "Of COURSE, Tucker publicized the Dominion conspiracy!!"
It was why so many Dems immediately took it that "Fox lied" when Fox did not allow its commentators to target Dominion. They were sure that Fox had said "something different" on air.
However, what Dominion was citing was that Fox was allowing *guests* who accused Dominion. And that would have been a hard test in any court (except a Dem-appointed Judge's court) to argue that Fox must comply with the de-platforming rules their competitors followed.
That Fox brass implied through leaks that he was a reason they settled with Dominion is bullshit.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (MNhXM)
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It totally was.
They're relying on the Dem-public-lore: "Of COURSE, Tucker publicized the Dominion conspiracy!!"
It was why so many Dems immediately took it that "Fox lied" when Fox did not allow its commentators to target Dominion. They were sure that Fox had said "something different" on air.
However, what Dominion was citing was that Fox was allowing *guests* who accused Dominion. And that would have been a hard test in any court (except a Dem-appointed Judge's court) to argue that Fox must comply with the de-platforming rules their competitors followed.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (brAQZ)
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>>> 74 The funny part is that the people who dug into the 2020 election pretty much all agree Dominion wasn't a factor. Things like the truckload of ballots in PA and the toilet in GA were what mattered.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ZGrMX)
Retired IT guy... worked in Software development for security software for a few years...
Without the source code, you have no idea what software is doing. Trusting a FOREIGN company, bankrolled by KNOWN LEFTISTS to count votes?
Not real smart.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (oHd/0)
I don't see how the various types of shenanigans are mutually exclusive. There are a shitload of problems with *any* electronic collection or counting system.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2023 04:13 PM (ZGrMX)
Retired IT guy... worked in Software development for security software for a few years...
Without the source code, you have no idea what software is doing. Trusting a FOREIGN company, bankrolled by KNOWN LEFTISTS to count votes?
Not real smart.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:15 PM (oHd/0)
I don't see how the various types of shenanigans are mutually exclusive. There are a shitload of problems with *any* electronic collection or counting system.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (llON8)
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Tucker could always just run himself, and then all of his commentary are campaign speeches.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (eoQWY)
I'm not sure that would work, especially with the precedent the judge presiding over Trumps arraignment might preclude Trump from campaigning.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (BdMk6)
That's not a civil suit. I can't see a judge saying Carlson can't run for office and making it stick.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:08 PM (eoQWY)
I'm not sure that would work, especially with the precedent the judge presiding over Trumps arraignment might preclude Trump from campaigning.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (BdMk6)
That's not a civil suit. I can't see a judge saying Carlson can't run for office and making it stick.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (eoQWY)
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So if I don't pay for a cable or satellite subscription is there a way to watch Fox News free of charge?
Posted by: Not motivated enough to ask the internet at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (DhOHl)
118
Fox News of the Joe Exotic of 2023 and Tucker Carlson is Carol Baskin.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (lf83v)
119
I was thinking a tortious interference claim might be coming from Murdoch-land.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (HUUcW)
Except in this instance Fox is a content provider, NOT a Carrier... just as Tucker is a content provider.
Thus, it would be like someone having a legal problem with Fox News, and telliing ComCast they can't carry them...
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (HUUcW)
Except in this instance Fox is a content provider, NOT a Carrier... just as Tucker is a content provider.
Thus, it would be like someone having a legal problem with Fox News, and telliing ComCast they can't carry them...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:24 PM (oHd/0)
120
Cannot stifle political speech. This will go to the Supremes and the commie bastards will get it up the butt.
Posted by: The Man from Athens
Maybe, just maybe ...
they really, really WANT it up the butt.
Cannot stifle political speech. This will go to the Supremes and the commie bastards will get it up the butt.
Posted by: The Man from Athens
Maybe, just maybe ...
they really, really WANT it up the butt.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 12, 2023 04:24 PM (qSYtj)
121
And funny how the media is silent on the evidence of Biden corruption.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (oHd/0)
He's already said it's malarkey and he's honest. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: Peaches at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (14URa)
........
and he wants to know "Where's the money?"
(Doctor Jill must have hidden it from him)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (oHd/0)
He's already said it's malarkey and he's honest. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: Peaches at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (14URa)
........
and he wants to know "Where's the money?"
(Doctor Jill must have hidden it from him)
Posted by: wth at June 12, 2023 04:24 PM (v0R5T)
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Can't stop the signal Mal.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (ZLI7S)
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That's why we collude.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (ZLI7S)
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That's why we collude.
Posted by: Dem Judges at June 12, 2023 04:24 PM (krQz2)
123
An 8 figure civil judgement against tucker along with a gag order would be the most likely outcome. And it will come just as the 2024 election season is getting into high gear.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:20 PM (ncXxy)
What's the damage?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM
Breach of contract. Rumor has it that fox is/was paying tucker $10 million a year for his talent with an iron clad non compete agreement on any platform clause. Some say it is higher though. I have no idea other than what I have read.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:20 PM (ncXxy)
What's the damage?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM
Breach of contract. Rumor has it that fox is/was paying tucker $10 million a year for his talent with an iron clad non compete agreement on any platform clause. Some say it is higher though. I have no idea other than what I have read.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM (ncXxy)
124
112 What's the damage?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (eoQWY)
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Breach of contract. Reputational damage to NewsCorp. Shareholder damage. Being a super-duper bad guy. Whatever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:22 PM (t0OGg)
It was an own-goal by pulling his show. They stuck the pipe in their own bicycle front tire on this.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (eoQWY)
++++
Breach of contract. Reputational damage to NewsCorp. Shareholder damage. Being a super-duper bad guy. Whatever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:22 PM (t0OGg)
It was an own-goal by pulling his show. They stuck the pipe in their own bicycle front tire on this.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM (ynpvh)
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Fox News of the Joe Exotic of 2023 and Tucker Carlson is Carol Baskin.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (lf83v)
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She he'll kill Fox, boast about it, get his case re-opened, then get arrested for it?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (lf83v)
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She he'll kill Fox, boast about it, get his case re-opened, then get arrested for it?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM (t0OGg)
126
Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
Posted by: Its a joke boy, don't ya get it? at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM (sh1GZ)
127
Breach of contract. Rumor has it that fox is/was paying tucker $10 million a year for his talent with an iron clad non compete agreement on any platform clause. Some say it is higher though. I have no idea other than what I have read.
You know who else was terrified of letting people speak their minds?
You know who else was terrified of letting people speak their minds?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (eOEVl)
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they really, really WANT it up the butt.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 12, 2023 04:24 PM (qSYtj)
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In priDEMONth, you can't suggest that it's bad to want it up the butt.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 12, 2023 04:24 PM (qSYtj)
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In priDEMONth, you can't suggest that it's bad to want it up the butt.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (krQz2)
129
don't pay for a cable or satellite subscription is there a way to watch Fox News free of charge?
Posted by: Not motivated enough to ask the internet at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (DhOHl)
YouTube clips are free if you have an internet connection.
Posted by: Not motivated enough to ask the internet at June 12, 2023 04:23 PM (DhOHl)
YouTube clips are free if you have an internet connection.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (bYtw0)
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It was an own-goal by pulling his show. They stuck the pipe in their own bicycle front tire on this.
More like they stuck the banana in their own tailpipe.
More like they stuck the banana in their own tailpipe.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (eOEVl)
131
Harmeet fights. That's not the look the RNC wants to cultivate right now.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:05 PM (/iWhV)
Wasn't she lead lawyer for the GOP on the Arizona Elections 2022?
How'd that go?
She tweets things I like to see... but what has she done?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:05 PM (/iWhV)
Wasn't she lead lawyer for the GOP on the Arizona Elections 2022?
How'd that go?
She tweets things I like to see... but what has she done?
Posted by: Inogame at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (53oGX)
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Yep. People will handily tune into a 10-15 minute clip of Tucker Carlson over devoting an hour or so for a scheduled program. All he has to do is churn out regular clips of that length and he'll attract an audience like no one else can.
Keep 'em short, sweet, and to the point and he'll be the King of Twitter before you know it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YIVH2)
Interesting. If this short-form format sticks on Twitter, it can become a viable competitor to Tik Tok - and leapfrog Meta in doing so.
Keep 'em short, sweet, and to the point and he'll be the King of Twitter before you know it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YIVH2)
Interesting. If this short-form format sticks on Twitter, it can become a viable competitor to Tik Tok - and leapfrog Meta in doing so.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (/iWhV)
133
120
Cannot stifle political speech. This will go to the Supremes and the commie bastards will get it up the butt.
Posted by: The Man from Athens
Maybe, just maybe ...
they really, really WANT it up the butt.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 12, 2023 04:24 PM (qSYtj)
And 7 or 8 years from now, long after he was silenced for the election period... the Supremes will say 'wow, shouldn't have done that'...
Cannot stifle political speech. This will go to the Supremes and the commie bastards will get it up the butt.
Posted by: The Man from Athens
Maybe, just maybe ...
they really, really WANT it up the butt.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 12, 2023 04:24 PM (qSYtj)
And 7 or 8 years from now, long after he was silenced for the election period... the Supremes will say 'wow, shouldn't have done that'...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (oHd/0)
134
nd funny how the media is silent on the evidence of Biden corruption.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (oHd/0)
He's already said it's malarkey and he's honest. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: Peaches at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (14URa)
........
WTH: "and he wants to know 'Where's the money?'
(Doctor Jill must have hidden it from him)"
++++++++++++++++++++++++
That's what gangsters always ask. "Where's the gun?" with smarmy looks on their faces.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:17 PM (oHd/0)
He's already said it's malarkey and he's honest. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: Peaches at June 12, 2023 04:18 PM (14URa)
........
WTH: "and he wants to know 'Where's the money?'
(Doctor Jill must have hidden it from him)"
++++++++++++++++++++++++
That's what gangsters always ask. "Where's the gun?" with smarmy looks on their faces.
Posted by: Bamanarama at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (uH1aC)
135
More like they stuck the banana in their own tailpipe.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (eOEVl)
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I think banana is racist...or maybe it's cis-centric?!
*trails off* ...
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (eOEVl)
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I think banana is racist...or maybe it's cis-centric?!
*trails off* ...
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (krQz2)
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130 It was an own-goal by pulling his show. They stuck the pipe in their own bicycle front tire on this.
More like they stuck the banana in their own tailpipe.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (eOEVl)
Looks more like a dildo to me.
More like they stuck the banana in their own tailpipe.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (eOEVl)
Looks more like a dildo to me.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (ynpvh)
137
126 Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
Posted by: Its a joke boy, don't ya get it? at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM (sh1GZ)
LOL, pretty sure 20 million of those were fraudulent.
Posted by: Its a joke boy, don't ya get it? at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM (sh1GZ)
LOL, pretty sure 20 million of those were fraudulent.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:28 PM (bYtw0)
138
Breach of contract. Rumor has it that fox is/was paying tucker $10 million a year for his talent with an iron clad non compete agreement on any platform clause. Some say it is higher though. I have no idea other than what I have read.
You know who else was terrified of letting people speak their minds?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM
joe biden?
You know who else was terrified of letting people speak their minds?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM
joe biden?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:28 PM (ncXxy)
139
Funny part? Musk now says he's considering "Twitter News". It will be "just the facts and no bias". AMF Fox and Media Frenz.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 12, 2023 04:28 PM (wrDSd)
140
Breach of contract. Rumor has it that fox is/was paying tucker $10 million a year for his talent with an iron clad non compete agreement on any platform clause.
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So when they tell him he can't do his show anymore, they can keep him from saying anything on any platform, as long as they pay him 10million a year. Supreme Court will hear this one eventually. And Tucker doesn't GAF. His family had a trust fund long before this blew up and its bullet proof. He doesn't have to get paid to keep his lifestyle. Which is why he's so freaking happy doing twitter shows. HE DOESN'T GAF.
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So when they tell him he can't do his show anymore, they can keep him from saying anything on any platform, as long as they pay him 10million a year. Supreme Court will hear this one eventually. And Tucker doesn't GAF. His family had a trust fund long before this blew up and its bullet proof. He doesn't have to get paid to keep his lifestyle. Which is why he's so freaking happy doing twitter shows. HE DOESN'T GAF.
Posted by: Its a joke boy, don't ya get it? at June 12, 2023 04:28 PM (sh1GZ)
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Interesting. If this short-form format sticks on Twitter, it can become a viable competitor to Tik Tok - and leapfrog Meta in doing so.
It's for that reason that I don't watch podcasts. Most of them take 60 minutes to say what could be said equally well in 10, or even 5. I don't have the patience for slow baud rates just so they can squeeze in more ads.
It's for that reason that I don't watch podcasts. Most of them take 60 minutes to say what could be said equally well in 10, or even 5. I don't have the patience for slow baud rates just so they can squeeze in more ads.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:28 PM (eOEVl)
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Keep 'em short, sweet, and to the point and he'll be the King of Twitter before you know it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YIVH2)
Interesting. If this short-form format sticks on Twitter, it can become a viable competitor to Tik Tok - and leapfrog Meta in doing so.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (/iWhV)
Yup... Hundreds of millions of views of Jordan Peterson, says 'this is the way'.
Have long form available... but also have 5 - 15 minute videos up.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YIVH2)
Interesting. If this short-form format sticks on Twitter, it can become a viable competitor to Tik Tok - and leapfrog Meta in doing so.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (/iWhV)
Yup... Hundreds of millions of views of Jordan Peterson, says 'this is the way'.
Have long form available... but also have 5 - 15 minute videos up.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:29 PM (oHd/0)
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And 7 or 8 years from now, long after he was silenced for the election period... the Supremes will say 'wow, shouldn't have done that'...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (oHd/0)
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Nah, they'll wait until somebody wants to do that to a liberal. And then somebody will point out that they did it to TC, and then they'll say "Well, they probably shouldn't have done that".
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (oHd/0)
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Nah, they'll wait until somebody wants to do that to a liberal. And then somebody will point out that they did it to TC, and then they'll say "Well, they probably shouldn't have done that".
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:29 PM (krQz2)
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123 An 8 figure civil judgement against tucker along with a gag order would be the most likely outcome. And it will come just as the 2024 election season is getting into high gear.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:20 PM (ncXxy)
What's the damage?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM
Breach of contract. Rumor has it that fox is/was paying tucker $10 million a year for his talent with an iron clad non compete agreement on any platform clause. Some say it is higher though. I have no idea other than what I have read.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM (ncXxy)
I'm not sure how iron-clad the contract is, when they allowed him to post FOX content on Tucker's own Twitter account, rather than one run by FOX. If they didn't limit what he posted on his account while he was there, I don't think they can limit what he posts there now.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:20 PM (ncXxy)
What's the damage?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM
Breach of contract. Rumor has it that fox is/was paying tucker $10 million a year for his talent with an iron clad non compete agreement on any platform clause. Some say it is higher though. I have no idea other than what I have read.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM (ncXxy)
I'm not sure how iron-clad the contract is, when they allowed him to post FOX content on Tucker's own Twitter account, rather than one run by FOX. If they didn't limit what he posted on his account while he was there, I don't think they can limit what he posts there now.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:29 PM (/iWhV)
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Yep. People will handily tune into a 10-15 minute clip of Tucker Carlson over devoting an hour or so for a scheduled program. All he has to do is churn out regular clips of that length and he'll attract an audience like no one else can.
Keep 'em short, sweet, and to the point and he'll be the King of Twitter before you know it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YIVH2)
Interesting. If this short-form format sticks on Twitter, it can become a viable competitor to Tik Tok - and leapfrog Meta in doing so.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM
I am not sure of his master plan, but I suspect that is where elon musk is going with the twitter/tucker thing. He didn't make over $100 BILLION dollars by not having a plan.
Keep 'em short, sweet, and to the point and he'll be the King of Twitter before you know it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:21 PM (YIVH2)
Interesting. If this short-form format sticks on Twitter, it can become a viable competitor to Tik Tok - and leapfrog Meta in doing so.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM
I am not sure of his master plan, but I suspect that is where elon musk is going with the twitter/tucker thing. He didn't make over $100 BILLION dollars by not having a plan.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:30 PM (ncXxy)
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And Tucker doesn't GAF. His family had a trust fund long before this blew up and its bullet proof.
It's not just that he already has enough money, it's that he's being set up as the king of the conservative commenters, and that will pay off bigly. Every attempt Fox makes to silence him boosts his credentials.
It's not just that he already has enough money, it's that he's being set up as the king of the conservative commenters, and that will pay off bigly. Every attempt Fox makes to silence him boosts his credentials.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:30 PM (eOEVl)
147
The non compete was in exchange for continued payment. It’s not a prison sentence it’s a contract. The most I see Tucker liable for is forfeiting his salary.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (MNhXM)
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Be interesting to see how Fox voluntarily terminating him affects the noncompete clause. They weren't paying him $10,000,000 to keep his thoughts to himself. Noncompete clauses generally operate to prevent someone from jumping ship. He was forced to walk the plank.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (KAi1n)
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What you are seeing on Fox today is a censored version of the news.
Come on, nobody believes that. It's an intelligence operation spreading Regime propaganda.
Come on, nobody believes that. It's an intelligence operation spreading Regime propaganda.
Posted by: t-bird at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (Sv58p)
150
I always throw the first C&D letter in the trash. Phone call on the second one. If there's a third one, I bring in the attorney.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (ju2Fy)
151
Imagine Tucker doing a Republican primary debate on Twitter.
Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (pwExq)
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I am not sure of his master plan, but I suspect that is where elon musk is going with the twitter/tucker thing. He didn't make over $100 BILLION dollars by not having a plan.
You know who else always has a plan?
You know who else always has a plan?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (eOEVl)
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I'm not sure how iron-clad the contract is, when they allowed him to post FOX content on Tucker's own Twitter account, rather than one run by FOX. If they didn't limit what he posted on his account while he was there, I don't think they can limit what he posts there now.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:29 PM (/iWhV)
Tucker was also doing speeches FOR PAY at numerous venues... which were Posted online... during his contract.
These had nothing to do with Fox, but they made no legal issue of it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:29 PM (/iWhV)
Tucker was also doing speeches FOR PAY at numerous venues... which were Posted online... during his contract.
These had nothing to do with Fox, but they made no legal issue of it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:32 PM (oHd/0)
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The non compete was in exchange for continued payment. It’s not a prison sentence it’s a contract. The most I see Tucker liable for is forfeiting his salary.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM
You are forgetting that any civil case will be presented to a New York City jury. Good luck with that. They will award all sorts of damages to fox news.
Posted by: polynikes at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM
You are forgetting that any civil case will be presented to a New York City jury. Good luck with that. They will award all sorts of damages to fox news.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:32 PM (ncXxy)
155
Interesting. If this short-form format sticks on Twitter, it can become a viable competitor to Tik Tok - and leapfrog Meta in doing so.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (/iWhV)
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We've been conditioned for *decades* by commercial television to have an attention span in this range. There's a reason why TV shows have ad breaks at specific times...
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 12, 2023 04:27 PM (/iWhV)
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We've been conditioned for *decades* by commercial television to have an attention span in this range. There's a reason why TV shows have ad breaks at specific times...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:32 PM (YIVH2)
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I like Tucker, don't always agree with him but I like him.
The funny part about this situation is what Tucker mostly does is opinion stuff not hard news. I can't think of an issue where he has been out front of what is already percolating on the internet.
Fox is just pissing off people who like Tucker for the way he presents certain issues not because we are learning anything new from him. That's a pretty dumb fight to pick.
The funny part about this situation is what Tucker mostly does is opinion stuff not hard news. I can't think of an issue where he has been out front of what is already percolating on the internet.
Fox is just pissing off people who like Tucker for the way he presents certain issues not because we are learning anything new from him. That's a pretty dumb fight to pick.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2023 04:33 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Adm'l Painter at June 12, 2023 04:33 PM (sh1GZ)
158
The most important Podcaster in America today is Jason Whitlock. The second is Adam Corolla.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:33 PM (bYtw0)
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I also suspect that Musk can make Tucker whole on any contract issues as a backstop but is encouraging the freedom of speech approach first as that is his brand.
Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2023 04:33 PM (pwExq)
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151 Imagine Tucker doing a Republican primary debate on Twitter.
Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (pwExq)
Imagine Pence having to face up to Trump in that way, lol.
Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (pwExq)
Imagine Pence having to face up to Trump in that way, lol.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:36 PM (bYtw0)
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You are forgetting that any civil case will be presented to a New York City jury. Good luck with that. They will award all sorts of damages to fox news.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:32 PM (ncXxy)
Interesting question legally... can a NEW YORK Judges order, affect what you do in other States?
Could you not get a Judge in another State, to acknowledge your freedom of Speech Rights?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 12, 2023 04:32 PM (ncXxy)
Interesting question legally... can a NEW YORK Judges order, affect what you do in other States?
Could you not get a Judge in another State, to acknowledge your freedom of Speech Rights?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:36 PM (oHd/0)
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Imagine Tucker doing a Republican primary debate on Twitter.
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I quit watching fox HARD when Meagain Kelly started in on Trump. I will say, that I considered Tucker must see TV. But I gave him up because he was on FOX. I'd watch him on anything not fox, for sure. A cooking show even. Painting lessons.
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I quit watching fox HARD when Meagain Kelly started in on Trump. I will say, that I considered Tucker must see TV. But I gave him up because he was on FOX. I'd watch him on anything not fox, for sure. A cooking show even. Painting lessons.
Posted by: Adm'l Painter at June 12, 2023 04:36 PM (sh1GZ)
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Why would anyone be seeing anything on Fox? Why would anyone watch it?
Posted by: Curious at June 12, 2023 04:36 PM (DhOHl)
164
WH Claims Biden Is “Restoring The Integrity Of The Department Of Justice”
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Well, the DOJ could use some 'tegrity.
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Well, the DOJ could use some 'tegrity.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 12, 2023 04:36 PM (FVME7)
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I also suspect that Musk can make Tucker whole on any contract issues as a backstop but is encouraging the freedom of speech approach first as that is his brand.
Yup. Fox is boosting their own competitors for a minimal cost to Musk. Stupid!
Yup. Fox is boosting their own competitors for a minimal cost to Musk. Stupid!
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (eOEVl)
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Fox is so liberal-esque in this bullshit.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (krQz2)
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"You are forgetting that any civil case will be presented to a New York City jury. Good luck with that. They will award all sorts of damages to fox news."
Since Tucker worked out of his home, which is not in NYC, he can always counter sue in his jurisdiction. I'm guessing that Tucker counter suit would loot the fux snuuz bank account clean.
Since Tucker worked out of his home, which is not in NYC, he can always counter sue in his jurisdiction. I'm guessing that Tucker counter suit would loot the fux snuuz bank account clean.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80. at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (89Sog)
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160 151 Imagine Tucker doing a Republican primary debate on Twitter.
Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (pwExq)
Imagine Pence having to face up to Trump in that way, lol.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:36 PM (bYtw0)
Yeah... VP Pence? Why did you tell President Trump that Mike Flynn had lied to you? Which set him up for the Deep State Witch Hunt that destroyed his life for Years?
Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM (pwExq)
Imagine Pence having to face up to Trump in that way, lol.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:36 PM (bYtw0)
Yeah... VP Pence? Why did you tell President Trump that Mike Flynn had lied to you? Which set him up for the Deep State Witch Hunt that destroyed his life for Years?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (oHd/0)
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The most important Podcaster in America today is Jason Whitlock. The second is Adam Corolla.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:33 PM (bYtw0)
How anyone listens to Corolla's voice for more than two minutes is beyond me. Nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:33 PM (bYtw0)
How anyone listens to Corolla's voice for more than two minutes is beyond me. Nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by: Catherine at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (ZSsrh)
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Could you not get a Judge in another State, to acknowledge your freedom of Speech Rights?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:36 PM (oHd/0)
That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 12, 2023 04:36 PM (oHd/0)
That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (N3zMI)
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Fox is just pissing off people who like Tucker for the way he presents certain issues not because we are learning anything new from him. That's a pretty dumb fight to pick.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2023 04:33 PM (ZLI7S)
Don't be silly! All of our friends on the Upper West Side think we are doing the correct thing with Carlson.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2023 04:33 PM (ZLI7S)
Don't be silly! All of our friends on the Upper West Side think we are doing the correct thing with Carlson.
Posted by: The Murdock kids at June 12, 2023 04:38 PM (ZCCyW)
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And then ran it on the Chiron underneath that crap weasel's face. Tucker simply doesn't GAF.
Posted by: I mean let's face it he coined the phrase Creepy Porn Lawyer at June 12, 2023 04:38 PM (sh1GZ)
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So what is the worst Fox can do to Tucker? I would think the only thing they could legally do is withhold the money they would have paid him. But the junta jailed the oathkeeper dude who was not even in DC. So now I think if they get a junta judge who decides it is ok to extend the commiecrat penumbra to Faux news they could get an injunction that Tucker cannot broadcast with an actual jail time penalty if he violates the court order.
I know these things but I still can't wrap my head around the fact they we are in this dystopia.
I know these things but I still can't wrap my head around the fact they we are in this dystopia.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 12, 2023 04:38 PM (3cGpq)
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WH Claims Biden Is “Restoring The Integrity Of The Department Of Justice”
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Oh good. Cuz he's doing such a good job with everything else.
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Oh good. Cuz he's doing such a good job with everything else.
Posted by: wth at June 12, 2023 04:39 PM (v0R5T)
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Fox is so liberal-esque in this bullshit.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (krQz2)
They are "twirling, twirling, twirling!" for NE people to like them!
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (krQz2)
They are "twirling, twirling, twirling!" for NE people to like them!
Posted by: Boswell at June 12, 2023 04:39 PM (K+UlC)
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The exact wording of the contract would be interesting to see. Both parties must have known the possibility of Tucker being fired (without cause, other than disobeying the imposed censorship).
Will also be interesting if Tucker goes hard against China, since Musk is so tied to them.
Will also be interesting if Tucker goes hard against China, since Musk is so tied to them.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 12, 2023 04:39 PM (Cus5s)
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27 For all the members of Congress, culture warriors, "influencers,"@GOP officials -- do you really want to air your views on a network that spits on its viewers, leaks oppo on its own talent, and even threatens former talent for speaking, for free, on @Twitter?! You have free will!
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Yes, they do. They're in the Complex.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Where else can Miss Lindsey push for war with Russia three times a week?
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Yes, they do. They're in the Complex.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Where else can Miss Lindsey push for war with Russia three times a week?
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at June 12, 2023 04:39 PM (gf7Ez)
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This very busty redhead in a loosely-tied red robe likes watching Tucker Carlson and hopes he wins this kerfuffle with the lame propagandists at NewsCorp:
https://is.gd/5Djza3
https://is.gd/5Djza3
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:40 PM (t0OGg)
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Fox just needs more Newt!
Posted by: Geezers at June 12, 2023 04:40 PM (DhOHl)
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If Tucker is in violation of the contract, then the proper solution for Fox is to terminate the contract - not to claim that the contract remains in force no matter what and they can use the courts to keep it in force. It's as if you quit your job and your employer sent the Sherrif's dep't over to pick you up and make you go to work whether you wanted to or not.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (i9ffA)
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WH Claims Biden Is “Restoring The Integrity Of The Department Of Justice”
Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 12, 2023 04:42 PM (ga8qR)
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Bespectacled and bodacious.
Posted by: Whew! at June 12, 2023 04:42 PM (DhOHl)
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Heard that Maria Bartolome's head was on the block - she's still there - what's with that?
Posted by: Boswell at June 12, 2023 04:42 PM (K+UlC)
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Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)
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What if he means it? That's possible. That they look at this total capture and lawlessness as New Integrity.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)
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What if he means it? That's possible. That they look at this total capture and lawlessness as New Integrity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:42 PM (t0OGg)
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"Doubling down on the most catastrophic programming decision in the history of the cable news industry . . ."
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Oh, the seanhannity!
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Oh, the seanhannity!
Posted by: Hindenburg Announcer Guy at June 12, 2023 04:43 PM (gf7Ez)
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This very busty redhead in a loosely-tied red robe likes watching Tucker Carlson and hopes he wins this kerfuffle with the lame propagandists at NewsCorp:
https://is.gd/5Djza3
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:40 PM (t0OGg)
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she also is bespectacled.
https://is.gd/5Djza3
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:40 PM (t0OGg)
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she also is bespectacled.
Posted by: wth at June 12, 2023 04:43 PM (v0R5T)
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Garden leave contracts are the norm outside the US, they don't work here regardless whether you pay people not to work or not. It's that pesky concept of life, liberty and, oh, pursuit of happiness.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 12, 2023 04:43 PM (oWBc3)
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As a mention in the morning post, some of the most anti-conservative headlines that are being pushed the last few weeks start out, "Fox News ...."
They have lapped MSNBC for the looniest of Trump hate ....
And isn't that Trump's lawyer now repping Tucker?
I expect some nasty smears to come out about her manufactured by Fox
They have lapped MSNBC for the looniest of Trump hate ....
And isn't that Trump's lawyer now repping Tucker?
I expect some nasty smears to come out about her manufactured by Fox
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 12, 2023 04:43 PM (0QVEQ)
Posted by: Montec at June 12, 2023 04:44 PM (OalnH)
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Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)
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What if he means it? That's possible. That they look at this total capture and lawlessness as New Integrity.
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Its not a lie, if I believe it.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)
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What if he means it? That's possible. That they look at this total capture and lawlessness as New Integrity.
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Its not a lie, if I believe it.
Posted by: George Constanza Attny Gen'l of the U.S. at June 12, 2023 04:44 PM (sh1GZ)
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Oh, the seanhannity!
Posted by: Hindenburg Announcer Guy at June 12, 2023 04:43 PM (gf7Ez)
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LOLOL
Nice
Posted by: Hindenburg Announcer Guy at June 12, 2023 04:43 PM (gf7Ez)
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LOLOL
Nice
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:44 PM (t0OGg)
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But Maria is a Great American™.
Posted by: Sean Hannity at June 12, 2023 04:44 PM (DhOHl)
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If the suit is tried in NYC, Fox probably gets punitive damages, that NYC will promptly forget in any dispute between a liberal contractor and an employer.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:45 PM (krQz2)
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Don't be silly! All of our friends on the Upper West Side think we are doing the correct thing with Carlson.
Posted by: The Murdock kids at June 12, 2023 04:38 PM (ZCCyW)
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I think the kids are more Upper East than Upper West.
Posted by: The Murdock kids at June 12, 2023 04:38 PM (ZCCyW)
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I think the kids are more Upper East than Upper West.
Posted by: Montec at June 12, 2023 04:45 PM (OalnH)
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Tucka lives in FL right? So any lawsuit would need to be there I believe?
Posted by: Montec at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (OalnH)
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Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)
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What if he means it? That's possible. That they look at this total capture and lawlessness as New Integrity.
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Its not a lie, if I believe it.
Posted by: George Constanza Attny Gen'l of the U.S. at June 12, 2023 04:44 PM (sh1GZ)
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FJB is so broken that he is incapable of recognizing truth from fiction. He just doesn't know what is real and what isn't, so he lives in a world of lies masquerading as truth within his own mind.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)
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What if he means it? That's possible. That they look at this total capture and lawlessness as New Integrity.
==
Its not a lie, if I believe it.
Posted by: George Constanza Attny Gen'l of the U.S. at June 12, 2023 04:44 PM (sh1GZ)
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FJB is so broken that he is incapable of recognizing truth from fiction. He just doesn't know what is real and what isn't, so he lives in a world of lies masquerading as truth within his own mind.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (YIVH2)
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FJB is so broken that he is incapable of recognizing truth from fiction. He just doesn't know what is real and what isn't, so he lives in a world of lies masquerading as truth within his own mind.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (YIVH2)
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And liars who write his scripts.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (YIVH2)
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And liars who write his scripts.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (t0OGg)
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Fox News keeps this up and they're going to get all those love letters Erick Erickson used to write to CNN
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 12, 2023 04:47 PM (0QVEQ)
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Tucka lives in FL right? So any lawsuit would need to be there I believe?
Posted by: Montec at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (OalnH)
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He's very likely in danger in any blue or purple district.
Posted by: Montec at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (OalnH)
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He's very likely in danger in any blue or purple district.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:47 PM (krQz2)
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within his own mind.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
You've asserted that he has a mind and I don't see any facts to support it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
You've asserted that he has a mind and I don't see any facts to support it.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 12, 2023 04:47 PM (4WAN5)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:47 PM (Xrfse)
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If ace will hire a team of conservative TilToker kids to make 45 second videos on the news of the day and put them on his website as a monthly subscription, I'll pay for a subscription.
Just quick hit news briefs so that I can still ignore the content he writes, but stay informed.
Just quick hit news briefs so that I can still ignore the content he writes, but stay informed.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (ZrmM/)
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I'm tanned, rested and corpulent!
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (DhOHl)
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And liars who write his scripts.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (t0OGg)
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They just have a problem with how he reads "Fail Over" as a stage direction.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (t0OGg)
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They just have a problem with how he reads "Fail Over" as a stage direction.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (krQz2)
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How anyone listens to Corolla's voice for more than two minutes is beyond me. Nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by: Catherine at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (ZSsrh)
Same could be said about Levin.
Not everyone's voice is as mellifluous as Regean's.
Posted by: Catherine at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (ZSsrh)
Same could be said about Levin.
Not everyone's voice is as mellifluous as Regean's.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (bYtw0)
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Without the source code, you have no idea what software is doing. Trusting a FOREIGN company, bankrolled by KNOWN LEFTISTS to count votes?
The only way is open source.
Let the globe see what code is being used.
If the official version signature hash doesn't match, then the machine is invalid and cannot be used.
The only way is open source.
Let the globe see what code is being used.
If the official version signature hash doesn't match, then the machine is invalid and cannot be used.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (YXHzG)
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Tucka lives in FL right? So any lawsuit would need to be there I believe?
Posted by: Montec at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (OalnH)
The contract itself most likely sets out which state law governs and what is the proper venue for disputes.
Posted by: Montec at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (OalnH)
The contract itself most likely sets out which state law governs and what is the proper venue for disputes.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (N3zMI)
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Lotsa people kicking the bucket today. Sirens have been going by the office all day.
Posted by: wth at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (v0R5T)
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They just have a problem with how he reads "Fail Over" as a stage direction.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (krQz2)
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LOL. I would love for him to read stage directions again but have it be stuff like, "DON'T WANDER OFF" or "REMAIN UPRIGHT" or "DO NOT GRASP AND INVISIBLE LECTERN"
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (krQz2)
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LOL. I would love for him to read stage directions again but have it be stuff like, "DON'T WANDER OFF" or "REMAIN UPRIGHT" or "DO NOT GRASP AND INVISIBLE LECTERN"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (t0OGg)
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If tucker just walked away Fox might have a breach of contract claim with damages for the viewers lost. However if he had a clause saying Fox couldn't intrude on editorial content and Fox attempted to do that then Fox is in breach. Any non compete clause would be dependent on who breached, and in any event would probably only be construed as keeping Tucker off cable tv, not what amounts to a podcast
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (OhpJy)
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206 How anyone listens to Corolla's voice for more than two minutes is beyond me. Nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by: Catherine at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (ZSsrh)
Same could be said about Levin.
Not everyone's voice is as mellifluous as Regean's.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (bYtw0)
Someone high up in radio land likes high pitched voices for the medium. There are more than a few.
Posted by: Catherine at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (ZSsrh)
Same could be said about Levin.
Not everyone's voice is as mellifluous as Regean's.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (bYtw0)
Someone high up in radio land likes high pitched voices for the medium. There are more than a few.
Posted by: Inogame at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (53oGX)
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181 WH Claims Biden Is “Restoring The Integrity Of The Department Of Justice”
Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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That's amazing.
Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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That's amazing.
Posted by: Puddleglum back in Babylon DC at June 12, 2023 04:50 PM (sAmhv)
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148 Be interesting to see how Fox voluntarily terminating him affects the noncompete clause. They weren't paying him $10,000,000 to keep his thoughts to himself. Noncompete clauses generally operate to prevent someone from jumping ship. He was forced to walk the plank.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM
I thought it’s also about intellectual property. What would Tucker be taking to another venue that belongs to Fox? Doesn’t he own his own thoughts?
Posted by: SFGoth at June 12, 2023 04:31 PM
I thought it’s also about intellectual property. What would Tucker be taking to another venue that belongs to Fox? Doesn’t he own his own thoughts?
Posted by: Moonbeam at June 12, 2023 04:50 PM (rbKZ6)
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Fox is now actually paying Carlson to speak on Twitter as the corporate drones at Fox undermine and beclown themselves asserting that Carlson has no right to freely speak.
If every though thought that these "elites" are educated above their intelligence I think we now have definitive proof.
If every though thought that these "elites" are educated above their intelligence I think we now have definitive proof.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 12, 2023 04:50 PM (RIfux)
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211 If tucker just walked away Fox might have a breach of contract claim with damages for the viewers lost. However if he had a clause saying Fox couldn't intrude on editorial content and Fox attempted to do that then Fox is in breach. Any non compete clause would be dependent on who breached, and in any event would probably only be construed as keeping Tucker off cable tv, not what amounts to a podcast
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (OhpJy)
There is likely a streaming content portion of the contract. Fox posts content like this on the web.
I'd wager the argument is what constitutes personal content with show content, and/or was twitter named specifically.
Both sides (It's a sandwich!) assume they are correct, we will see who wins.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (OhpJy)
There is likely a streaming content portion of the contract. Fox posts content like this on the web.
I'd wager the argument is what constitutes personal content with show content, and/or was twitter named specifically.
Both sides (It's a sandwich!) assume they are correct, we will see who wins.
Posted by: Inogame at June 12, 2023 04:52 PM (53oGX)
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However if he had a clause saying Fox couldn't intrude on editorial content and Fox attempted to do that then Fox is in breach.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (OhpJy)
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Some of the people who have spoken for Tucker say that he
had the last say in what goes on his show, at least by contract.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (OhpJy)
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Some of the people who have spoken for Tucker say that he
had the last say in what goes on his show, at least by contract.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:52 PM (krQz2)
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@GOP officials -- do you really want to air your views on a network that spits on its viewers, leaks oppo on its own talent, and even threatens former talent for speaking, for free, on @Twitter?! You have free will!
It's only free if can't find a buyer.
It's only free if can't find a buyer.
Posted by: @GOPe at June 12, 2023 04:52 PM (dNNCD)
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So, I think Tucker's proper response should be, "Neener neener neener!"
Drop mic.
It would certainly make me smile.
Drop mic.
It would certainly make me smile.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 12, 2023 04:53 PM (okGHj)
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Tucker will winn
Posted by: Grape Juice Plus at June 12, 2023 04:54 PM (ufJfM)
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Why would Fox News think they had purchased the man? They paid for a service, and he gave them that. Then they canned him. Too damned bad.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 12, 2023 04:54 PM (okGHj)
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If tucker just walked away Fox might have a breach of contract claim with damages for the viewers lost.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (OhpJy)
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That *should* be a hard case to make for an employer who is dead set on keeping an anchor off the air for almost 2 years.
It *should* be an impossible case, actually. They've already lost those people who would tune in *specifically* for Tucker, and probably a punitive bunch more.
And *they* did that by the actions that *they* are insisting on defending.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 12, 2023 04:49 PM (OhpJy)
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That *should* be a hard case to make for an employer who is dead set on keeping an anchor off the air for almost 2 years.
It *should* be an impossible case, actually. They've already lost those people who would tune in *specifically* for Tucker, and probably a punitive bunch more.
And *they* did that by the actions that *they* are insisting on defending.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:55 PM (krQz2)
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WH Claims Biden Is “Restoring The Integrity Of The Department Of Justice”
Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
No.
It's not.
I view DC with loathing and disgust.
Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
No.
It's not.
I view DC with loathing and disgust.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2023 04:55 PM (e4fEA)
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Tucka lives in FL right? So any lawsuit would need to be there I believe?
Posted by: Montec at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (OalnH)
The DOJ referral for indictment was in Miami because the DOJ says it was issue of who had jurisdiction was cause for concern for the prosecution. Mostly because the DC area court used for the Grand Jury indictment referral already ruled that PRA can't violate the Espionage Act of 1917 - oopsie! There goes the prosecution!
So, special idiot prosecutor Smith had to go to Miami's Trump appointed judge for venue purposes, anywhere else would have gotten the "we can't try this!" - so ops, oopsie! Smith is fucked, most lawyers that aren't living in "Trump is gonna die!" dream land know it.
Posted by: Montec at June 12, 2023 04:46 PM (OalnH)
The DOJ referral for indictment was in Miami because the DOJ says it was issue of who had jurisdiction was cause for concern for the prosecution. Mostly because the DC area court used for the Grand Jury indictment referral already ruled that PRA can't violate the Espionage Act of 1917 - oopsie! There goes the prosecution!
So, special idiot prosecutor Smith had to go to Miami's Trump appointed judge for venue purposes, anywhere else would have gotten the "we can't try this!" - so ops, oopsie! Smith is fucked, most lawyers that aren't living in "Trump is gonna die!" dream land know it.
Posted by: Boswell at June 12, 2023 04:56 PM (K+UlC)
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Fox seems to think they own his name and his opinions.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 12, 2023 04:56 PM (lTGtQ)
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He was forced to walk the plank.
Posted by: SFGoth
Taking away his program time while paying him did not make him walk a plank.
I suspect the attempt to compel him to stay quiet until after the election is what will diminish Fox's assertions.
Posted by: SFGoth
Taking away his program time while paying him did not make him walk a plank.
I suspect the attempt to compel him to stay quiet until after the election is what will diminish Fox's assertions.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 12, 2023 04:57 PM (4WAN5)
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Was hoping we had a good ol’ fashion nuking event. Guess not yet, but wow does it make my stomach hurt to see the vileness projected earlier.
Posted by: Piper at June 12, 2023 04:57 PM (ZdaMQ)
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227 Was hoping we had a good ol’ fashion nuking event. Guess not yet, but wow does it make my stomach hurt to see the vileness projected earlier.
Posted by: Piper at June 12, 2023 04:57 PM (ZdaMQ)
What did I miss ?
Posted by: Piper at June 12, 2023 04:57 PM (ZdaMQ)
What did I miss ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (bs+z0)
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Same could be said about Levin.
Not everyone's voice is as mellifluous as Regean's.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (bYtw0)
We need more guys like Mike Rowe. My wife has a crush on him.
Not everyone's voice is as mellifluous as Regean's.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:48 PM (bYtw0)
We need more guys like Mike Rowe. My wife has a crush on him.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (xPJvm)
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I miss Rush.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (iNLjp)
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By all contemporary accounts Lincoln's voice left something to be desired. High pitched. Who knows what Washington sounded like? We think he was authoritative but who knows?
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (bYtw0)
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Why would Fox News think they had purchased the man? They paid for a service, and he gave them that. Then they canned him. Too damned bad.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 12, 2023 04:54 PM (okGHj)
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Exactly. Effectively, they don't want Tucker or his content on Fox. They don't want his service.
It would be ridiculous to say that he can't take himself and the content which Fox does not want to air to another publisher.
Governments could start banning books by paying publishers for a fund out of which they could pay for the rights to books and simply not publish them.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 12, 2023 04:54 PM (okGHj)
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Exactly. Effectively, they don't want Tucker or his content on Fox. They don't want his service.
It would be ridiculous to say that he can't take himself and the content which Fox does not want to air to another publisher.
Governments could start banning books by paying publishers for a fund out of which they could pay for the rights to books and simply not publish them.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at June 12, 2023 04:59 PM (xPJvm)
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Some of the people who have spoken for Tucker say that he
had the last say in what goes on his show, at least by contract.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:52 PM (krQz2)
there's a statement out today from Tucker's producer in which he says that Twitter was specifically excluded from Tucker's contract, because Fox never considered it to be a competitor.
This is starting to look like Fox's legal team knows they're going to lose big, but they've been ordered to do it so they're going to make it look good until they crash and burn. Something similar to Oberlin College's high dollar legal team, which got totally pantsed by the little guys.
had the last say in what goes on his show, at least by contract.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2023 04:52 PM (krQz2)
there's a statement out today from Tucker's producer in which he says that Twitter was specifically excluded from Tucker's contract, because Fox never considered it to be a competitor.
This is starting to look like Fox's legal team knows they're going to lose big, but they've been ordered to do it so they're going to make it look good until they crash and burn. Something similar to Oberlin College's high dollar legal team, which got totally pantsed by the little guys.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2023 04:59 PM (i9ffA)
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>Cannot stifle political speech. This will go to the Supremes and the commie bastards will get it up the butt.
Government cannot stifle political speech. Fox is not government.
But they do have broadcast licenses, granted by government, so they operate with government's imprimatur. Maybe something there.
Unless I'm wrong.™
Government cannot stifle political speech. Fox is not government.
But they do have broadcast licenses, granted by government, so they operate with government's imprimatur. Maybe something there.
Unless I'm wrong.™
Posted by: DB - at June 12, 2023 05:00 PM (geLO8)
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Just think what the junta would be trying to do to Rush Limbaugh if he was still alive and broadcasting.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 12, 2023 05:00 PM (BdMk6)
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233 I miss Rush.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (iNLjp)
oh, me too.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at June 12, 2023 04:59 PM (xPJvm)
Without Neil Peart they'll never be the same.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (iNLjp)
oh, me too.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at June 12, 2023 04:59 PM (xPJvm)
Without Neil Peart they'll never be the same.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2023 05:00 PM (i9ffA)
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NOOD nerdy gaming stuff
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 12, 2023 05:01 PM (DRSnL)
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233 I miss Rush.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (iNLjp)
Me too.. I was a caller to rush once... It was the 2000 election I think... Anyway Bo Snerdly stayed on the line with me until I came on and was a riot ..
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (iNLjp)
Me too.. I was a caller to rush once... It was the 2000 election I think... Anyway Bo Snerdly stayed on the line with me until I came on and was a riot ..
Posted by: It's me donna at June 12, 2023 05:01 PM (bs+z0)
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damn- and I just put up a pithy comment
Posted by: DB - at June 12, 2023 05:02 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 05:02 PM (bYtw0)
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181 WH Claims Biden Is “Restoring The Integrity Of The Department Of Justice”
Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)
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Agree.
Once upon a time, I would have had a hearty laugh at this. The lying bullshit just ain't funny anymore.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 12, 2023 04:41 PM (Xrfse)
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Agree.
Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 12, 2023 05:02 PM (DcKNO)
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As long as Tucker isn't being paid from Twitter, I don't see how it's not just a strongly opinionated person giving his ideas, I tell you what /Yellowtone meme
He's got enough money and goodwill he can do this for 18 months until his contract runs out, then cash in.
He's got enough money and goodwill he can do this for 18 months until his contract runs out, then cash in.
Posted by: UwU_Power at June 12, 2023 05:02 PM (3kWw+)
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Me too.. I was a caller to rush once... It was the 2000 election I think... Anyway Bo Snerdly stayed on the line with me until I came on and was a riot ..
Posted by: It's me donna at June 12, 2023 05:01 PM (bs+z0)
Very cool. Snerdley is the best.
Posted by: It's me donna at June 12, 2023 05:01 PM (bs+z0)
Very cool. Snerdley is the best.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at June 12, 2023 05:02 PM (xPJvm)
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I am curious on some of our legal mind’s take on this, In my view it comes down to the reasonableness of the non complete. Noncompete’s are coming under fire, so it’s certainly interesting considering Fox themselves removed Tucker.
Posted by: Piper at June 12, 2023 05:03 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Nood gamergate 2.0
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 12, 2023 05:04 PM (RIvkX)
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Nood Duty
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 12, 2023 05:05 PM (4WAN5)
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"You are forgetting that any civil case will be presented to a New York City jury. Good luck with that. They will award all sorts of damages to fox news."
Since Tucker worked out of his home, which is not in NYC, he can always counter sue in his jurisdiction. I'm guessing that Tucker counter suit would loot the fux snuuz bank account clean.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80. at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (89Sog)
Discovery would be fun for him, I'm sure.
Since Tucker worked out of his home, which is not in NYC, he can always counter sue in his jurisdiction. I'm guessing that Tucker counter suit would loot the fux snuuz bank account clean.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80. at June 12, 2023 04:37 PM (89Sog)
Discovery would be fun for him, I'm sure.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 05:06 PM (eoQWY)
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@234 if what Tucker 's lawyers say is true, specifically that Twitter was excluded, then any non compete clause is dead.
The issue of whether Fox wants to sue based upon breach of contract will depend on the facts as to the separation from employment.
The issue of whether Fox wants to sue based upon breach of contract will depend on the facts as to the separation from employment.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 12, 2023 05:06 PM (OhpJy)
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By all contemporary accounts Lincoln's voice left something to be desired. High pitched. Who knows what Washington sounded like? We think he was authoritative but who knows?
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (bYtw0)
Higher pitch was used to allow a larger crowd to hear you, it was part of oratory.
Posted by: JmT at June 12, 2023 04:58 PM (bYtw0)
Higher pitch was used to allow a larger crowd to hear you, it was part of oratory.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 12, 2023 05:07 PM (eoQWY)
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If that C and D were worth the paper it's printed on Fox would've used it by now.
Posted by: Disabled elderly pregnant child at June 12, 2023 05:09 PM (nakGR)
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If I understand it correctly, Tucker was already banned by the ESG, DIE people. His ad revenue sucked.
But with him gone, the rest the of ad revenue goes.
But with him gone, the rest the of ad revenue goes.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 12, 2023 05:09 PM (vg8N1)
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A trial would be funny if Fox had to admit under oath that they had a secret, pinky agreement with Dominion to "fire" Carlson as part of their tort settlement.
Posted by: mrp at June 12, 2023 05:11 PM (rj6Yv)
254
Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
Posted by: Its a joke boy, don't ya get it? at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM
I live in Pennsylvania and there is plenty wrong with the 2020 election - like ~80,000 more ballots then voters. 'Certified' as legit by the Secretary of State. Who was fired or forced to resign over the Boy Scouts of America case. Yeah, pull my other finger.
She didn't want to spend the rest of her life in a courtroom. Then in jail. Ops, everywhere.
Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
Posted by: Its a joke boy, don't ya get it? at June 12, 2023 04:25 PM
I live in Pennsylvania and there is plenty wrong with the 2020 election - like ~80,000 more ballots then voters. 'Certified' as legit by the Secretary of State. Who was fired or forced to resign over the Boy Scouts of America case. Yeah, pull my other finger.
She didn't want to spend the rest of her life in a courtroom. Then in jail. Ops, everywhere.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 12, 2023 05:25 PM (enJYY)
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130 It was an own-goal by pulling his show. They stuck the pipe in their own bicycle front tire on this.
More like they stuck the banana in their own tailpipe.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (eOEVl)
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I'm sure a banana has been used in that fashion before, with or without peel, with or without KY.
More like they stuck the banana in their own tailpipe.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 12, 2023 04:26 PM (eOEVl)
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I'm sure a banana has been used in that fashion before, with or without peel, with or without KY.
Posted by: Ciampino -- I see a Chink in the armor at June 12, 2023 05:45 PM (qfLjt)
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But they do have broadcast licenses, granted by government, so they operate with government's imprimatur. Maybe something there.
Unless I'm wrong.™
Posted by: DB - at June 12, 2023 05:00 PM (geLO
Fox's over the air stations have licenses. The cable channel, no.
Unless I'm wrong.™
Posted by: DB - at June 12, 2023 05:00 PM (geLO
Fox's over the air stations have licenses. The cable channel, no.
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