Saturday Evening Movie Thread [moviegique]: A Man For All Seasons

The extended award season, finally receding into the future haze of "What won for best song in 2023?"*, always tends to pique me: What is great? From school, you'd get the idea that "great" is what a professor dozens or hundreds of years later thinks about your work. And however vile academics are today (and however mediocre they've historically been), we have both Shakespeare and Bach today because some academic recovered them from fickle pop culture. If someone can dig up your work hundreds of years later and people can still embrace the aesthetic, that's a measure of greatness.

However, I do think there's great "in the moment". Tons of, e.g., '80s culture was the right mood (as the kids say) for the time. This is true of every era, of course, and what's remarkable about the '80s is that a lot of the stuff dismissed as ephemera at the time still holds up today—in contrast to the late '60s/early '70s, which was absolutely convinced of its own immortality and is the very definition of "cringe" today.

From a narrative standpoint, however, a great story (by my lights) is the one that tells the tale that truly is eternal which brings us to A Man For All Seasons, 1966's Best Picture Oscar winner.

Jordan Petersen, the early years.

The Flower (a recent convert to Catholicism) had been wanting to watch this for some time, and we finally did. It is as great as I remembered it being, but it also maps perfectly on to the recent struggle against the lockdowns, the whole red vs. blue pill, and the dangers of going against The Cathedral (in a practically literal sense). It is odd to see a movie you know well and love and yet be shocked into wanting to check the copyright to see if it was actually made yesterday.

Of course, it couldn't have been made yesterday now, could it? (Maybe during the Trump administration, so they could metaphorically make him the villain, like they did with Bush and The Lives of Others.)

Directed by Fred Zinneman (High Noon, From Here To Eternity, Oklahoma!) who won directing and producing Oscars, based on a play by Robert Bolt (Lawrence of Arabia, Dr. Zhivago) who also won an Oscar, this is the story of Sir Thomas More, who stood against King Henry VIII's decision to split from the Catholic Church in order to secure a divorce—and who expects his adherence to the law to protect him as Henry's sycophants (and Henry himself) try bullying, cajoling and finally tricking him into breaking the law. Anything to get his agreement, which only seems to be important because he won't give it.

"You ever looked into the Pope's eyes? They're like a doll's eyes!"

Successful, respected, principled, we seem More lose all his worldly goods, we see his family turned against him (at least insofar as supporting his principles), we see him jailed and finally railroaded with an outright lie in a court of law. And, in a scene that is apparently close to historical truth, we see him executed. (Spoilers on a 500 year old event?)

Here, More is not even expressly going against Henry VIII: He's simply not going with him, and that is enough to spur the escalating madness. Throughout the movie, More (who is not naive) is increasingly red-pilled, as he realizes if the King wants you dead, you're dead, law be damned. Throughout, his friends and allies are imploring him to be reasonable, because it's better than the alternative. (Relevantly, the issue of "right" or "wrong" isn't really at play here, except in the sense that Henry feels he's in the wrong, and he can't feel that he's the wrong.)

Paul Scofield won the acting Oscar (but he didn't show because he figured he would lose to Richard Burton, who turned down the More part). Charlton Heston lobbied for the role and appeared in the 1988 version (which I find unwatchable). The cinematography—Technicolor, before they started muddying the colors too badly for "realism"—and costumes are great and also won Oscars. Robert Shaw (Jaws) lost best supporting actor.

Making the staff feel guilty.

A young John Hurt—his first role in a big movie—plays a would-be toady to More. Leo McKern, Wendy Hiller, Orson Welles, Vanessa Redgrave (who would go on to star in the Heston version), and Susannah York round out the cast.

Historical realism? It probably ends with the costumes (and the execution scene). More's actual track record was not one of tolerance, with any number from three to eight heretics being burned at the stake during his reign as chancellor, according to modern historians. At the same time, revisionism is so endemic, I wouldn't believe George Washington didn't cut down the cherry tree if I weren't his alibi for the night.

But realism is not the point: Bolt's More is aspirational. He is what we should all be. Principled and willing to work within the system to the extent that it doesn't compromise his principles.

If Bolt had specific events in mind, it also doesn't matter, because it works so well today. (Contrast with Spartacus where Dalton Trumbo shoehorns his anti-McCarthy speech into the mouths of literal slavers.) It's the universality of this premise which is great: We will always be impressed on to conform and to compromise even our most fundamental beliefs, it seems like. With More we have a role model.

*"Naatu Naatu" from RRR.

Orson Welles, 1958, needs a fat suit for "A Touch of Evil". Orson Welles, 1966...pure Welles.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:59 PM

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1 Popcorn 🍿 time

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2023 08:00 PM (xhxe8)

2 Movies I didn't cover today but might have:

Unicorn Wars: Gory story about fascistic teddy bears engaged in a genocidal war against unicorns. More teddy bear dongles than you can shake a stick at.

Una Vita Dificile: 1961 tale of a man who refuses to sell out and has una vita dificle.

Inside: 105 minutes of Willem Dafoe slowly disintegrating. OK, not that slowly. Pretty quickly, really. Is it literal? Is it a metaphor? Will you care? Probably not.

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:02 PM (asXVI)

3 Cool Hand Luke is just starting. Can't stay up but it's a great movie

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2023 08:03 PM (xhxe8)

4 Shaw was great in this film.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 08:03 PM (zZu0s)

5 I just watched the original Great Expectations again. The remake went cast woke.

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 08:05 PM (IhbYA)

6 Hey, Dickens never described the race of his characters. You don't know. They might have been Samoan.

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:06 PM (asXVI)

7 Una Vita Dificile: 1961 tale of a man who refuses to sell out and has una vita dificle.
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I LOVE RICKY MARTIN!!!

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 08:06 PM (O69GV)

8 Evening.

I'm going out for a burger, anyone want anything?

Posted by: Robert, feelin' spicy at March 25, 2023 08:08 PM (1Yy3c)

9 Hey, Dickens never described the race of his characters. You don't know. They might have been Samoan.

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Oh man, remember when authors were allowed to let their readers use their imaginations?

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 08:09 PM (O69GV)

10 Now I have to go find this version.
Thank you.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 25, 2023 08:10 PM (9Dxnz)

11 This is not the first time they woke cast a Dicken's Nobel. They did it with David Copperfield. I forgot the name of the movie but they named it something else.

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 08:11 PM (IhbYA)

12 It's the universality of this premise which is great: We will always be impressed on to conform and to compromise even our most fundamental beliefs, it seems like.

I just watched Judgement at Nuremberg, and it has exactly the same theme. Plus, a very young William Shatner.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 25, 2023 08:11 PM (eOEVl)

13 A wonderful movie. I myself being Anglican think that Henry VIII, while defender of the faith, made a good point that the English Church was not subservient to the Pope, even while maintaining that he was also a wretched sinner of a man. As am I

Posted by: Mordineus at March 25, 2023 08:11 PM (Fimb0)

14 I don't respect awards, and I've come to believe that they are a bad influence on creativity. They pull artists into doing work that the award folks would smile upon, rather than work they consider good.

So instead of producing works of art, artists produce what is essentially click-bait.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 25, 2023 08:11 PM (CHHv1)

15 This my problem because I just don't get what's supposed to pass for entertainment . The everything, everywhere blah blah blah movie was on the rotten rack for 2 bucks so I bit
What an insipid piece of dreck. I won't even throw it away, I'll just target practice it. Like I said it's me not the producers.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 25, 2023 08:12 PM (GDTIC)

16 The Personal History of David Copperfield so I guess it really wasn't renamed.

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 08:12 PM (IhbYA)

17 8 Evening.

I'm going out for a burger, anyone want anything?
Posted by: Robert, feelin' spicy at March 25, 2023 08:08 PM (1Yy3c)

Could you get me a Chunky?

Posted by: Owen Lift at March 25, 2023 08:12 PM (DTX3h)

18 Tonight's Movie Roulette selection:

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 25, 2023 08:12 PM (BpYfr)

19 Wonderful write-up Moviegique. Thanks!

Posted by: Tonypete at March 25, 2023 08:15 PM (qoGsy)

20 yeah, I'm a big Paul Scofield fan

you should do a spot on "the Train"

a fucking great movie

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:15 PM (us2H3)

21 ||So instead of producing works of art, artists produce what is essentially click-bait.

The Oscars have always been about impressing your peers, who are weirdos, and pretending to legitimacy.

But they were always SO far afield of the audience.

||I just watched Judgement at Nuremberg, and it has exactly the same theme.

It's easy to revile the people who cave. It's harder to recognize yourself in those people.

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:16 PM (asXVI)

22 12 It's the universality of this premise which is great: We will always be impressed on to conform and to compromise even our most fundamental beliefs, it seems like.

I just watched Judgement at Nuremberg, and it has exactly the same theme. Plus, a very young William Shatner.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 25, 2023 08:11 PM (eOEVl)

El Cid with Charlton Heston- which TJM and I disagree on whether it is a good movie.

https://is.gd/VhNkKl

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 08:16 PM (zZu0s)

23 There is More to this pit than meets the eye.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 25, 2023 08:16 PM (s12c9)

24 This my problem because I just don't get what's supposed to pass for entertainment . The everything, everywhere blah blah blah movie was on the rotten rack for 2 bucks so I bit
What an insipid piece of dreck. I won't even throw it away, I'll just target practice it. Like I said it's me not the producers.

Posted by: Ben Had

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I was shocked when I heard it had won awards. I liked it a LOT, but part of the reason was because it's a stupid B-movie and I'm a huge fan of bad movies. And it's a bad movie. My wife wouldn't even finish it with me, and she has sat through some really bad stuff, up to and including not-bad 70s kung fu movies that I also love (36 Chambers Master Killer type stuff)

I had no idea someone famous was in it and I was supposed to be watching something serious. I have to assume it racked up all the awards like it did because China and Chinese money etc.

But it was undeniably a B-movie.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 08:17 PM (O69GV)

25 "The Dead Zone" and "Once Upon A Time In The West" are both on Prime.

Two great flicks.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 25, 2023 08:17 PM (6iRBQ)

26
I just watched Judgement at Nuremberg, and it has exactly the same theme. Plus, a very young William Shatner.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 25, 2023 08:11 PM (eOEVl)

Max totally stole the show as Hans Rolfe

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:17 PM (us2H3)

27 They've had a Firefly marathon today. Still going on.

And right now they are showing the first Black comic book hero movie. No not Black Panther like the propagandized but Blade.

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 08:17 PM (IhbYA)

28 You guys seeing these summarizers on the search engines? I search for "Paul Scofield The Train" and get:

"Paul Scofield stars in John Frankenheimer’s The Train (1944)..."

I say, "Wait, Frankenheimer was making movies in 1944?" He was not. Movie was from 1964. Oy.

I'll check it out REDACTED.

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Thanks, TonyPete!

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:19 PM (asXVI)

29 Successful, respected, principled, we seem More lose all his worldly goods, we see his family turned against him

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True, but the idea that More was an icon of freedom of thought is kind of a joke.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 25, 2023 08:19 PM (s12c9)

30 No movies going on here; Mr. April has been binge watching Columbo for days.

Its fine, not as noisy as the movies he would be watching otherwise.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 08:20 PM (OX9vb)

31 No movies going on here; Mr. April has been binge watching Columbo for days.

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You can pick up the complete series for about $30 on Amazon around Black Friday if that's something that might be a good gift.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 08:22 PM (O69GV)

32 Daddy, I've watched House of the Flying Daggers countless times so bad movies isn't a disqualifer but geeze,it was never going to be an Oscar winner.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 25, 2023 08:24 PM (GDTIC)

33 The Train is pretty close to a perfect movie

great direction
writing
and of cousre, B&W

and the castig is the best

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:24 PM (us2H3)

34 Could you get me a Chunky?
Posted by: Owen Lift at March 25, 2023 08:12 PM (DTX3h)

I'm getting something called Trump's Burger Wall. I'll split it with ya.

Posted by: Robert, feelin' spicy at March 25, 2023 08:24 PM (g6FIe)

35 >No movies going on here; Mr. April has been binge watching Columbo for days.

I've been binging Seinfeld. They couldn't make half those jokes today.

Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 08:24 PM (geLO8)

36 2: Unicorn Wars: Gory story about fascistic teddy bears engaged in a genocidal war against unicorns. More teddy bear dongles than you can shake a stick at.

Um...
...
...
Wut?

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 08:24 PM (yRved)

37 32 Daddy, I've watched House of the Flying Daggers countless times so bad movies isn't a disqualifer but geeze,it was never going to be an Oscar winner.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 25, 2023 08:24 PM (GDTIC)

Is that considered a bad movie? I love that one. That, along with Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, and Hero.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 08:25 PM (OX9vb)

38 Max totally stole the show as Hans Rolfe

I thought he was chewing the carpet too much. YMMV. However, Marlene Dietrich couldn't have been better. The scene outside the bar where she and Spencer Tracy are discussing Lilli Marlene is one of my favorites in all of cinema.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 25, 2023 08:25 PM (eOEVl)

39 "I had no idea someone famous was in it and I was supposed to be watching something serious."

The tone switching is not for everyone. The Daniels did the same thing for "Swiss Army Man": Looked at serious issues but filled the movie with fart jokes. To me, it says, "We take the issues seriously but not ourselves."

|| I have to assume it racked up all the awards like it did because China and Chinese money etc.||

I think more traditional liberal guilt is in play. I doubt very much China cares for this film at all. The last thing they want to do at this point is play up lesbianism.

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:25 PM (asXVI)

40 I've been binging Seinfeld. They couldn't make half those jokes today.
Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 08:24 PM (geLO

I have never watched that. I think I might be the only one.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 08:26 PM (OX9vb)

41 I've been binging Seinfeld. They couldn't make half those jokes today.

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True story: There is (was, I guess) some sort of "AI" driven Seinfeld clone that would release episodes online. It was apparently super popular and did a pretty good job of the whole "show about nothing."

It somehow made a joke about trannies and the computer creating the episodes was cancelled. Not even a person. A computer.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 08:26 PM (O69GV)

42 I love The Train, it is a great movie

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2023 08:27 PM (xhxe8)

43 Watching Violent Night

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 25, 2023 08:27 PM (fUnHJ)

44 14 I don't respect awards, and I've come to believe that they are a bad influence on creativity. They pull artists into doing work that the award folks would smile upon, rather than work they consider good.

So instead of producing works of art, artists produce what is essentially click-bait.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

See!!! I told you all James Cameron's 'Titanic' sucked!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (yRved)

45 One thing: we know that while the particulars of the story may be in doubt, the overall themes of AMFAS rings very true.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (zZu0s)

46 I thought he was chewing the carpet too much. YMMV. However, Marlene Dietrich couldn't have been better. The scene outside the bar where she and Spencer Tracy are discussing Lilli Marlene is one of my favorites in all of cinema.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 25, 2023 08:25 PM (eOEVl)

max walked away with the hardware

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (us2H3)

47 2: Unicorn Wars: Gory story about fascistic teddy bears engaged in a genocidal war against unicorns. More teddy bear dongles than you can shake a stick at.

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I always thought there was something wrong with the Care Bears...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (BpYfr)

48 I think more traditional liberal guilt is in play. I doubt very much China cares for this film at all. The last thing they want to do at this point is play up lesbianism.
Posted by: moviegique

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I didn't make my point clearly. I don't think China liked the movie. I think Hollywood was bowing deeply to China because they had the opportunity.

Say, didn't Top Gun come out and compete with it?

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (O69GV)

49 HUH! interesting, I like the movie quite a bit. But that is not why I am huhing. I am in the middle of reading an interesting little mystery, whose subject is...Richard III. Richard III is in vogue at the moment. Remarkable discovery of his remains, his modern (proper) burial, The Lost King the movie. Has anyone seen it ? I have yet to see it. But back to Thomas Moore. The book I am reading implies that Sir Thomas' learned book history of Henry III was all bosh !

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (V13WU)

50 See!!! I told you all James Cameron's 'Titanic' sucked!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (yRved)

I really love the ship/period porn. The boobs are good too, but the 'people story' is tedious/annoying at best.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 08:29 PM (zZu0s)

51 ||True, but the idea that More was an icon of freedom of thought is kind of a joke.

He was an icon of freedom of thought for himself. Heh. But seriously, yeah, the movie isn't great because it's historically accurate, as noted.

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More teddy bear dongles than you can shake a stick at.

Um...
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Wut?
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You heard me.

OK, I'm exaggerating. There are only 2 or 3. But that's WAY more than I was expecting.

Spaniards, man.

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:29 PM (asXVI)

52 April, an other reason I love you. Watching a really good actress doing that piece of shit was a travesty. She should have had an Oscar for Geisha.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 25, 2023 08:29 PM (GDTIC)

53 I still don't think the casting in "the Godfather" made much sense

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:29 PM (us2H3)

54 See!!! I told you all James Cameron's 'Titanic' sucked!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (yRved)

That is my personal #1 movie of all time

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Clue is #2.

See, I like tragedy and comedy.

Posted by: Nova Local at March 25, 2023 08:29 PM (exHjb)

55 Sounds like saintly Thomas made stuff up. Maybe we will have a movie about that one day.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 08:30 PM (V13WU)

56 50 See!!! I told you all James Cameron's 'Titanic' sucked!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (yRved)

yep, fucking hate that movie

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:30 PM (us2H3)

57 I still don't think the casting in "the Godfather" made much sense
Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:29 PM (us2H3)

Father casting daughter in his own movie ? or something else ?

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 08:30 PM (V13WU)

58 Ha! Decades ago Mom and I saw "A Man For All Seasons" on a double bill with the frothy Nelson Eddie/Jeanette MacDonald operetta "New Moon" at a rickety room in a senior citizen's center. "A Man For All Seasons" was supposed to show first, but we had to sit through that crooning shite first.

My favorite bit was Nelson Eddy leading a pack of men through the swamp as they bellow the rousing "Stout-hearted Men" at lung-bursting capacity, then when they get to the enemy hideout he whispers "Shhhhhh!"

https://tinyurl.com/mpb3hyap

This made "The Fifty Worst Films of All Time and How They Got That Way". And it was paired with one of the best films of all time!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 08:31 PM (Dc2NZ)

59 Trumps giving a speech in Waco

Posted by: Gonzotx at March 25, 2023 08:31 PM (MwHgU)

60 I always thought there was something wrong with the Care Bears...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (BpYfr)

Ever read Simon Green's Deathstalker series. He had a lot of story ideas he put into the series and one is where the crew travel to a former pleasure/amusement park (obviously modeled on DisneyWorld) where the characters were all completely animatronic/robots. A terrorist faction infected the park with a malicious bit of code that made all of the animatronics essentially evil and kill all of the tourists who were there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 08:31 PM (zZu0s)

61 A terrorist faction infected the park with a malicious bit of code that made all of the animatronics essentially evil and kill all of the tourists who were there.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 08:31 PM (zZu0s)
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So, like the Simpsons' trip to Itchy and Scratchy Land?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 25, 2023 08:33 PM (BpYfr)

62 pretty sure Trump gets his funny dance moves from the gopher in Caddyshack

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:33 PM (us2H3)

63 I'll second the recommendation for The Train. Scofield is menacing, evil, cultured, arrogant and human all rolled into one. Burt Lancaster gets to show off his acrobatic skills as well. For another Scofield pic, try out Henry V where he plays the King of France. He's old and more frightened by the English than are his courtiers. King Henry gets to give the Independence Day speech just a few centuries early, upon St Cripsin's Day!

Posted by: MichiCanuck at March 25, 2023 08:33 PM (ObMCo)

64 What an insipid piece of dreck. I won't even throw it away, I'll just target practice it. Like I said it's me not the producers.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 25, 2023 08:12 PM (GDTIC)
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Now this would be a great thread. "Which movies should be used as target practice by Ben Had?"

I nominate a double bill: Prometheus and Covenant. Two DVDs, one bullet.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 08:34 PM (Dc2NZ)

65 I've watched Shazam 2 (worth a matinee watch if you don't mind a single gay shout out), and I've currently watched the first episode of Hello Tomorrow! on Apple TV. Did anyone watched the whole season? I'm kinda conflicted about continuing after episode 1 b/c while I saw the episode twist coming, I didn't want to see it coming, and I'm wondering if what was already a somewhat dark and morose comedy goes darker and more morose or more comedic...I mean, I was engrossed, but then I'm like, "while engrossed and REALLY enjoying the set up and concept, do I want to get even more bummed out in the future"...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 25, 2023 08:34 PM (exHjb)

66 This is the greatest scene in this great film (Man for All Seasons). I'm surprised there's been no mention of it here. Starts slow but stay with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqReTJkjjg

Posted by: ilrndude at March 25, 2023 08:34 PM (b0JaA)

67 Max totally stole the show as Hans Rolfe
Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:17 PM (us2H3)

He was excellent. I also liked Tracy. Until the end he keeps you guessing what he is up to. Overall one of the most important films of all time.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 08:34 PM (V13WU)

68 See!!! I told you all James Cameron's 'Titanic' sucked!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (yRved)

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I like Titanic for the realistic depiction of the ship and I thought the story was engaging. It was a worthwhile movie.

It cracks me up when people criticize it as manipulative. Any good film manipulates your emotions.

Shitty films don't, or can't, or don't know to. See, e.g., the Disney Star Wars trilogy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 25, 2023 08:35 PM (s12c9)

69 Here is the Lili Marlene clip. It gives me chills.

https://tinyurl.com/s22krykc

Posted by: Archimedes at March 25, 2023 08:36 PM (eOEVl)

70 A Man for All Seasons has long been one of my top movies, I've seen it countless times. I agree with you, Redacted, Scofield's performance in "The Train" is masterful, and is a truly excellent movie all around.

As far as some of the knocks on Thomas More, remember these things happened while he was on official of Henry VIII, and it was expected - nay, demanded of him that he uphold his office and punish those who ran afoul of the King. He was completely Loyal, until he was pushed too far and could not consent to what he was told to do any longer.

It is the definitive tale of how a man decides that death is a better choice then betraying his own self.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 08:37 PM (r46W7)

71 Father casting daughter in his own movie ? or something else ?
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 08:30 PM (V13WU)

it was his sista but Diane Keeton and James Caan WTF

and the brothers, they don't look even a little bit alike

I guess there were different milkmen at the Corleone house

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:37 PM (us2H3)

72 52 April, an other reason I love you.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 25, 2023 08:29 PM (GDTIC)

I'm not the best of movie critics.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 08:38 PM (OX9vb)

73 Eris!!! Good thoughts of you the other day. Soon as I get a new computer I will email you to chat.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 25, 2023 08:38 PM (GDTIC)

74 || Say, didn't Top Gun come out and compete with it?

Not at all. "Top Gun" was released first in May and, while it got bounced out of #1 after the first week, it stayed in the top 5 all summer, and didn't drop out of the top 10 until October, which is a phenomenon for this century.

"Everything" would almost be considered counter-programming. I don't think it ever broke the top 5, and it was gone within a few months. But re-releases did pretty well.

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:40 PM (asXVI)

75 69 Here is the Lili Marlene clip. It gives me chills.

https://tinyurl.com/s22krykc
Posted by: Archimedes at March 25, 2023 08:36 PM (eOEVl)

thanks, you're right, that scene is incredible. Burt Lancaster's role in that movie really stood out to me - the Judge who always thought he was doing Right, while in fact he facilitated untold evil.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 08:41 PM (r46W7)

76 Top Gun Maverick won where it counted: with the audience

Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 08:41 PM (geLO8)

77 I'm watching " The Greatest Story Ever Told:" to be followed up by The Passion and Risen. This the season.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 25, 2023 08:42 PM (GDTIC)

78 Probably the first "serious" movie my parents took me to when it came out. Would have been in 6th grade back then. So old enough to appreciate the nuance of the movie.

For you Clevelanders, it was shown at the Heights Art Theatre in the Coventry neighborhood.

Used to have a great penny candy store right next to it, wax lips, chocolate cigarettes, real licorice...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 08:42 PM (CCSxw)

79 66 This is the greatest scene in this great film (Man for All Seasons). I'm surprised there's been no mention of it here. Starts slow but stay with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqReTJkjjg

I like the scene when Scofield gives the silver cup that he was given as a bribe to John Hurt. Sets up the whole scene at the trial when Hurt perjures himself to shoot down Scofield. In my opinion, the guy who steals the film is Leo McKern (the new #2).

Posted by: MichiCanuck at March 25, 2023 08:42 PM (ObMCo)

80 No one will remember that silly Chinese whatchamacallit everything movie in a year

but people will wear out their Top Gun DVDs

Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 08:42 PM (geLO8)

81 || The Lost King the movie

Next on my list. I went to see "Inside" instead and...I guess I don't regret it, but I hope TLK is better.

|| The boobs are good too

They're nice, but in a three hour movie, not really a draw.

|| It somehow made a joke about trannies

The joke wasn't even about trannies. The joke was about potentially making a joke about trannies.

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:43 PM (asXVI)

82 Nice to be back. I wanted to do a mini "Lent-let" and take time away from the HQ as a web fast.

But right now I'm watching Gus Van Zandt's shot-for-shot remake of "Psycho" and thought of the Movie Thread.

Honestly, it's not awful. At the time I was appalled at the idea, but sufficient time has passed that I can appreciate it as a thought experiment on Van Zandt's part.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 08:43 PM (Dc2NZ)

83 66 This is the greatest scene in this great film (Man for All Seasons). I'm surprised there's been no mention of it here. Starts slow but stay with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqReTJkjjg
Posted by: ilrndude at March 25, 2023 08:34 PM (b0JaA)

Absolutely! It astounds me how increasingly, people who want to change things are completely ignorant of this principle. "I'd give the Devil benefit of Law for my own safety's sake!!!"

Everything done will come back on those who did it, sooner or later. That's always been true, how can they forget that?

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 08:46 PM (r46W7)

84 43 Watching Violent Night

***

It's a weird movie that tries to be a heartwarming Christmas story with extreme violence.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 25, 2023 08:46 PM (fUnHJ)

85 Burt Lancaster's role in that movie really stood out to me - the Judge who always thought he was doing Right, while in fact he facilitated untold evil.

Agree. They could have had the heartwarming show of respect between Spencer Tracy and BL in the end, but instead, wisely chose to have ST smack BL down by letting him know he was kidding himself, no matter how noble his courtroom behavior was.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 25, 2023 08:46 PM (eOEVl)

86 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HENRY VIII THOUGHT THAT IT WAS HIS WIFE'S FAULT FOR HIS UNABILITY TO FATHER A SON.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 25, 2023 08:46 PM (5u1+1)

87 Saw John Wick 4 in an actual theater with Little last night. This may be the only series where the subsequent release topped its predecessor.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at March 25, 2023 08:47 PM (bUGMk)

88 ||A terrorist faction infected the park with a malicious bit of code that made all of the animatronics essentially evil and kill all of the tourists who were there.

So...Westworld?

|| the rousing "Stout-hearted Men" at lung-bursting capacity,

I remember that song from "The Wonder Years". Always wondered where it came from.

|| This is the greatest scene in this great film (Man for All Seasons).

The ultimate blue pill. He thinks the law is going to save him. (Tell it to Jacob Chansley.)

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:48 PM (asXVI)

89 87 Saw John Wick 4 in an actual theater with Little last night. This may be the only series where the subsequent release topped its predecessor.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at March 25, 2023 08:47 PM (bUGMk)

I have a hard time believing it tops the first. The sequels I gave a hard pass on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 08:48 PM (zZu0s)

90 El Cid with Charlton Heston- which TJM and I disagree on whether it is a good movie.

"El Cid" is an okay movie with a few good scenes and a dynamite ending.

Mention El Cid the movie and all people talk about is the dead Cid mounted on his horse and leading the charge.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 25, 2023 08:48 PM (L1tQx)

91 @87

>>Saw John Wick 4 in an actual theater with Little last night. This may be the only series where the subsequent release topped its predecessor.

Saw reviews that said this was the most John Wick a John Wick film could be.

Special shout outs for Donny Yen's performance.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 25, 2023 08:49 PM (up/3i)

92 they bellow the rousing "Stout-hearted Men" at lung-bursting capacity

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I'm more a stout-assed man but whatever, dude.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 25, 2023 08:49 PM (FVME7)

93 In my opinion, the guy who steals the film is Leo McKern (the new #2).
Posted by: MichiCanuck at March 25, 2023 08:42 PM (ObMCo)

That film has great acting all the way around - Robert Shaw does a good (but short) job as a believable Henry VIII, and that's Wendy Hiller (Pygmalian, 193

playing Sir Thomas' wife.

A humorous bit is that Vanessa Redgrave was meant to be the big star playing Anne Boleyn, but she was making another movie at the time so she wanders through one scene, has one line, and is gone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 08:50 PM (r46W7)

94 90 El Cid with Charlton Heston- which TJM and I disagree on whether it is a good movie.

isn't Sophia in that movie ?

bunk time, maybe

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:50 PM (us2H3)

95 For you Clevelanders, it was shown at the Heights Art Theatre in the Coventry neighborhood.

Used to have a great penny candy store right next to it, wax lips, chocolate cigarettes, real licorice...
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard

And the wax 'bottles' of 'pop' that you bit the top off of to drink.

Good times, good times.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 25, 2023 08:50 PM (qoGsy)

96 Used to have a great penny candy store right next to it, wax lips, chocolate cigarettes, real licorice...
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 08:42 PM (CCSxw)

I may not be a good judge of movies, but I am a good judge of candy, and that is all dreadful. Haha! Especially wax lips. So sad! Come to think of it, in the 60s and 70s. most of that penny candy was awful.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 08:50 PM (OX9vb)

97 Do not get me started on horehounds.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 08:51 PM (OX9vb)

98 66 This is the greatest scene in this great film (Man for All Seasons). I'm surprised there's been no mention of it here. Starts slow but stay with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqReTJkjjg
Posted by: ilrndude at March 25, 2023 08:34 PM (b0JaA)

Yep...knew it would be this scene.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 08:51 PM (CCSxw)

99 Welp...Enough with the movie thread...

Time to retreat back into my book...historical fiction of the conquest of Britain by Rome (with a twist!)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 25, 2023 08:51 PM (BpYfr)

100 The Tik vs. El Seed:

https://tinyurl.com/438vxkks

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 08:51 PM (Dc2NZ)

101 Yellowstone (2018-) I got a huge kick bingeing this series. Delightfully vivid dialogue. Money, power, intrigue. Fate lurks around every corner, Death in every shadow. Kelly Reilly gives an enthusiastic performance as the fire-breathing Whore of Bethylon. Forrie Smith wins your heart as a wise old cowboy foreman. Lots of dastardly villains dispatched in satisfying ways. I think some characters even have those 'arc' thingies. I'll give it a 9 out of 10. As entertaining as any recent movie I can think of.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 08:51 PM (MvF+J)

102 Say, didn't Top Gun come out and compete with it?
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Not at all. "Top Gun" was released first in May..

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Awards-wise, though, they were both out in the same judging period? I was asking sincerely because I don't keep up.

And my only point with it is that I suspect Top Gun was a very traditional and likely pro-Heritage America movie, which is why it did so well in the theaters but could be safely ignored for dildo-fingers and Short Round.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 08:51 PM (5lbKt)

103 Have a good evening at the movies, it's curtains time for me

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2023 08:52 PM (xhxe8)

104 88 ||A terrorist faction infected the park with a malicious bit of code that made all of the animatronics essentially evil and kill all of the tourists who were there.

So...Westworld?

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:48 PM (asXVI)

Not exactly. Much less 'woke' and nihilistic that that. The planet was focused towards children. Green loves playing up kind of a horror aspect in his novels with certain situations (they play out often like episodes of Star Trek, where you have little episode/situation he puts the characters in.) The idea is that the robots were turned into true AI and also given the directive to kill the humans who had 'abused' them so, so they turned on the children and parents who were there. So they were literally killed by the characters they grew up loving. When the crew gets there, some of the AI have started to question and feel sorry for what they have done and have formed a resistance against the evil 'Toys' and want to protect the crew when they arrive.

It may sound weird, but it is one of his set-ups that actually works really well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 08:52 PM (zZu0s)

105 The ultimate blue pill. He thinks the law is going to save him. (Tell it to Jacob Chansley.)
Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:48 PM (asXVI)

He thinks it will; but he also recognizes that if they decide to go all the way and corrupt the law (using perjured testimony) then he is lost, and there is nothing to do but prepare to meet his God. He had hopes until the end that they wouldn't go so far as to betray everything they claimed to believe, but when they did, he knew that he remained Right with God, and they did not.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 08:52 PM (r46W7)

106 Speaking of great movies...

I picked up "Dragonslayer" in 4k. One of my favorites.

Great acting, great writing, great directing, little or no fat the movie zooms along and yet you can follow it and believe the actions of the characters.

Evil dragon is evil, excellent practical and CGIish efx for the time. The dragon in flight tends to resemble the X-wing fighter in flight from Star Wars.

Released in 1981, just about the only great fantasy movie until LotR.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 25, 2023 08:52 PM (L1tQx)

107 I may not be a good judge of movies, but I am a good judge of candy, and that is all dreadful. Haha! Especially wax lips. So sad! Come to think of it, in the 60s and 70s. most of that penny candy was awful.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 08:50 PM (OX9vb)

Ahhh, but to a 8-12 y/o they were good fun.
The owners made their own chocolate candies, but they were too expensive...and mostly dark chocolate. Not to a young boys taste back then.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 08:53 PM (CCSxw)

108 A humorous bit is that Vanessa Redgrave was meant to be the big star playing Anne Boleyn, but she was making another movie at the time so she wanders through one scene, has one line, and is gone.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 08:50 PM (r46W7)

Vanessa caught Tony with his dick in Jeanne Moreau

so divorced

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:54 PM (us2H3)

109 Screw that - watch the Trump rally LIVE instead:
https://tinyurl.com/5xezbrw5

Posted by: NipsyRussel at March 25, 2023 08:54 PM (Vwx+g)

110 Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 08:51 PM (MvF+J)

Now watch 1883.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 08:54 PM (V13WU)

111 I like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon," but I will watch any of Zhang Yimou's chop-socky homages over it: "Hero", "House of the Flying Daggers" and "Shadow".

Shadow review: https://moviegique.com/2019/07/shadow/

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 08:54 PM (asXVI)

112 dildo-fingers and Short Round
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If Andy Warhol directed a buddy cop movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 08:54 PM (Dc2NZ)

113 "Now watch 1883."

I shall!

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 08:55 PM (MvF+J)

114 Night Skip.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 08:55 PM (zZu0s)

115 I have a hard time believing it tops the first. The sequels I gave a hard pass on.

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I regret trying to watch anything past the first one. That was maybe the closest thing to a perfect revenge-based action movie that I've ever seen. He didn't even need to have a name except for the part where people needed to say it because of the equivalent of spooky ghost stories.

Now here's some history on the coins! And he was in the circus with this famous actress! And here's a famous lady actress that is even more John Wick than him because she's a lady! She's probably killed a man with a paperclip!

Ugh.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 08:56 PM (5lbKt)

116 And the wax 'bottles' of 'pop' that you bit the top off of to drink.

Good times, good times.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 25, 2023 08:50 PM (qoGsy)

That bit of nostalgia was for you TP, knew you'd appreciate it.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 08:56 PM (CCSxw)

117 Recently, bought AMfAS when I saw it was on blu-ray at a discount store.

I liked it as a wee tad, so I'll give it a watch again soon.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 25, 2023 08:57 PM (L1tQx)

118 Jeanette McDonald and Berry Berensen were married to raging queens

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 08:57 PM (us2H3)

119 The War Lord > El Cid

Unfortunately they never play The War Lord on TV and it's not available On Demand.

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 08:57 PM (IhbYA)

120 Henry's "Great Matter" wasn't divorce, but annulment. A divorce might have been possible, even though Katherine of Aragon's nephew, Charles, occupied Rome and held the Pope prisoner. But Henry went for an annulment based on the fact that Katherine had been married to his older brother, Arthur. There were months of wrangling over whether Katherine and Arthur consummated their marriage or not. Katherine insisted she was a virgin when she married Henry. Henry and a number of his Court insisted she wasn't.

Divorce, annulment -- what was the problem? The problem was Katherine. Had she agreed to an annulment, Bloody Mary would have been declared a bastard, up with which Katherine would not put. It also would have made Katherine Henry's mistress, not his legitimate wife.

Somewhere during the years of battle, Henry's annulment morphed into a divorce. Katherine wasn't going to have that, either.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I wasn't particularly fond of the '70s the first time around at March 25, 2023 08:57 PM (k5jR3)

121 @102

>>And my only point with it is that I suspect Top Gun was a very traditional and likely pro-Heritage America movie, which is why it did so well in the theaters but could be safely ignored for dildo-fingers and Short Round.

Top Gun was never going to win Best Picture, the last mass entertainment picture to win Best Picture was Gladiator in 2000.

It was a really good film, it should not have been nominated for Best Picture.

And EEAAO, should not have won best picture, the best picture should have come from The Banshees of Sadness duo of films.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 25, 2023 08:58 PM (up/3i)

122 Later, everyone!

Posted by: Nova Local at March 25, 2023 08:58 PM (exHjb)

123 100 The Tik vs. El Seed:

https://tinyurl.com/438vxkks
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 08:51 PM (Dc2NZ)

LOL I remember how much I laughed when I first saw that! Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

and I never made it all the way through El Cid. I like most of those kinds of movies, but that one bores me to tears.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 08:58 PM (r46W7)

124 Crouching Tiger 2, any love for that one ? It has its moment , plus young and talented Natasha Liu Bordizzo, who is going to be our live action Sabine Wren. Great casting choice if you ask me.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 08:58 PM (V13WU)

125 *has its momentS

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 08:58 PM (V13WU)

126 Keith Carradine would make a great Jordan Peterson on screen, except he's probably too old nowadays.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 25, 2023 08:59 PM (X+Ku8)

127 Oh sweet Jaysis...

Heads up. If you order a burger called Trump's Burger Wall? Expect it to be big. Real big. Holy shit...

Anyway...movies.

Watched Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. Honestly? It's not terrible. At least it's not the worst movie I've ever seen. Certainly the least of the OG cast films. But it has a few moments. The scene where McCoy has to "relive his pain" is quite good. On the other hand Spock is mostly played for laughs. He comes across less as an unemotional yet coldly logical Vulcan and more like an autistic kid. Maybe he's still recovering from dying. But overall I kind of enjoyed it. It has this oddball charm about it. Just accept that it's directed by Bill Shatner and don't overthink it.

And David bloody Warner was in it? He's played parts in the Federation, he was the Klingon Chancellor *and* a Cardassian officer. Guy loves him some Trek.

Posted by: Robert, feelin' spicy at March 25, 2023 09:00 PM (1Yy3c)

128 I like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon," but I will watch any of Zhang Yimou's chop-socky homages over it: "Hero", "House of the Flying Daggers" and "Shadow".

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I say this with complete seriousness because they are legitimate movies and not "Drunken Monkey Fist" campy silliness:

If you haven't watched the 36 Chambers trilogy, please do. Master Killer is hard to beat, but the trilogy is worth the time.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 09:00 PM (5lbKt)

129 The War Lord > El Cid

Unfortunately they never play The War Lord on TV and it's not available On Demand.
Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 08:57 PM (IhbYA)

It's for sale on blu-ray in Region B format, if you've got a Blu-ray player that can handle that.

BONUS! TV's Paladin(HGWT)has a major role. That's about the only major motion picture I can think I've seen him in.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 25, 2023 09:00 PM (L1tQx)

130 "And the wax 'bottles' of 'pop' that you bit the top off of to drink.

Good times, good times.
Posted by: Tonypete"

Candy necklaces, Atomic Fireballs...

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2023 09:00 PM (NahxB)

131 Kung Fu Hustle is the best Kung Fu movie IMHO.

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 09:00 PM (IhbYA)

132 AMFAS, Lion in Winter, and Beckett were all of an age back in the 60's.

Serious stories with larger than life leads in the starring roles...except for Paul Scofield.

*****

And it's Dame Wendy Hiller...

Her turn in Pygmalion is strangely captivating. She's not a "classic" beauty, but she commands your attention.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 09:00 PM (CCSxw)

133 @126

>>Keith Carradine would make a great Jordan Peterson on screen, except he's probably too old nowadays.

Keith is in his 70's, Peterson is in his early 60's.

So Keith could theoretically play him depending on if he's an old 70 or young 70.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 25, 2023 09:01 PM (up/3i)

134 talked to the ex last night and she told me that it looks like the woman that was standing next ot the woman that Alec Balwin shot is an old aquaitance of ours

even worked on a few films with my ex

if it's the same woman, she is a real nutter case with a rap sheet as long as my , well you know

but it might not be her, I haven't seen or talked to her in 35 years

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 09:01 PM (us2H3)

135 And EEAAO, should not have won best picture, the best picture should have come from The Banshees of Sadness duo of films.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 25, 2023 08:58 PM (up/3i)

****
Is this AOS or did I somehow get redirect to cuckywood?

Posted by: NipsyRussel at March 25, 2023 09:01 PM (Vwx+g)

136 And EEAAO, should not have won best picture, the best picture should have come from The Banshees of Sadness duo of films.

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I'm completely out of my depth and have never even heard of these, but I was just pointing out that I think bowing deeply to China was the point of EEAAO winning. (this might support it, too)

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 09:02 PM (5lbKt)

137 ||Awards-wise, though, they were both out in the same judging period? I was asking sincerely because I don't keep up.||

Oh, yes, but...seriously?

It was never in contention. Never could have been.

The last blockbuster that won the Oscar was "Return of the King", which was something of an obligation. Prior big BO movies had a shot: "Titanic", "Braveheart", "Rain Man" (which was #1 for the year, believe it or not), etc.

But the last blockbuster that was a celebration of America? Even obliquely? You could say "Rocky", but have you seen "Rocky" lately? It's cynical and downtrodden and squalid! Before that? "Patton"?

No, I don't think it was ever in any danger of winning Best Picture.

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 09:02 PM (asXVI)

138 Interesting article about nine of the most expensive movie stunts.

https://bit.ly/3K8tWr7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 25, 2023 09:02 PM (FVME7)

139 And it's Dame Wendy Hiller...

Her turn in Pygmalion is strangely captivating. She's not a "classic" beauty, but she commands your attention.
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 09:00 PM (CCSxw)

Plus she's got a great voice.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 25, 2023 09:02 PM (L1tQx)

140 Divorce, annulment -- what was the problem? The problem was Katherine. Had she agreed to an annulment, Bloody Mary would have been declared a bastard, up with which Katherine would not put. It also would have made Katherine Henry's mistress, not his legitimate wife.

Anne Boleyn faced that issue, as well. She could have had her life spared, but she chose execution so long as Elizabeth would remain legitimate. That decision of hers had (obviously) a huge impact on our history.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:03 PM (r46W7)

141 "Her turn in Pygmalion is strangely captivating. She's not a "classic" beauty, but she commands your attention."

Leslie Howard was a good Henry Higgins I thought.

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2023 09:03 PM (NahxB)

142 "Una Vita Dificile"

Added to my list, thanks!

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:03 PM (MvF+J)

143 131 Kung Fu Hustle is the best Kung Fu movie IMHO.

Posted by: polynikes

Yup. Lots of creativity in that film.

Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2023 09:04 PM (SYTee)

144 I think Henry was playing tennis when Ann Boylene was executed.

Posted by: polynikes1960 at March 25, 2023 09:04 PM (+hsEU)

145 Henry VIII was quite a monster if you think about it.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:04 PM (V13WU)

146 141 "Her turn in Pygmalion is strangely captivating. She's not a "classic" beauty, but she commands your attention."

kinda the meaning of the title

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 09:05 PM (us2H3)

147 Boleyn

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 09:06 PM (+hsEU)

148 Aetius, these sequels, unlike so many others, follow the story arc of the original, reveal interesting relationships between characters, and effectively advances the narrative of the original. Kind of like what Maverick does with Top Gun, but with a more interesting (IMO) plot details. Having just spent north of $50 bucks for the tickets and drinks, I don't make this recommendation lightly..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at March 25, 2023 09:06 PM (bUGMk)

149 Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 08:51 PM (OX9vb)

Way o/t, but did you watch any of The Sheffield 2023 competition.

It was, as the kids would say, off the chain.

Records broken right and left, bodies on the floor spent in their efforts.

Some truly impressive women's performances, and one out of this world, STRONGEST MAN ALIVE, series of lifts!

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 09:06 PM (CCSxw)

150 Has anyone seen it ? I have yet to see it. But back to Thomas Moore. The book I am reading implies that Sir Thomas' learned book history of Henry III was all bosh !
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 08:28 PM (V13WU)

Most history written at the time for the approval of the current dude in charge is bosh - either lauding him or slanging mud at those he toppled to get on top.

Even classic histories from Rome tended to end abruptly when history started to leak into current politics.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 25, 2023 09:06 PM (eoQWY)

151 The War Lord

https://tinyurl.com/yspxkpxp

Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 09:06 PM (geLO8)

152 "Henry VIII was quite a monster if you think about it."

They called his court The Lion's Den with good reason.

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2023 09:07 PM (NahxB)

153 I think Henry was playing tennis when Ann Boylene was executed.

Posted by: polynikes1960 at March 25, 2023 09:04 PM (+hsEU)

He was quite the player, supposedly.

Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2023 09:07 PM (AwYPR)

154 @137

>>The last blockbuster that won the Oscar was "Return of the King",

Ohh yeah, forgot about that one.

Still, it's 20 years ago.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 25, 2023 09:07 PM (up/3i)

155 I liked the recent Netflix Waco documentary, but some morons pan it as being too sympathetic to the feds. I didn't see it that way, but at least it does provide new details and footage we didn't have before.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:07 PM (MvF+J)

156 145 Henry VIII was quite a monster if you think about it.
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:04 PM (V13WU)

What's amazing is that 5 centuries later, we still talk about him all the time. Well, his life and times did a lot to create the world we live in.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:07 PM (r46W7)

157 kinda the meaning of the title
Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 09:05 PM (us2H3)

Never looked at it that way.

It was more of a comparison to My Fair Lady, and the loveliness of both Julie Andrews and then Audrey Hepburn.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 09:08 PM (CCSxw)

158 || 36 Chambers

I'll check 'em out.

|| she chose execution so long as Elizabeth would remain legitimate. That decision of hers had (obviously) a huge impact on our history.

Yes, especially considering Elizabeth was swapped out for a MAN, baby!

Posted by: moviegique at March 25, 2023 09:08 PM (asXVI)

159 Candy necklaces, Atomic Fireballs...
Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2023 09:00 PM (NahxB)

You can still get Atomic Fireballs from a number of places.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 25, 2023 09:09 PM (eoQWY)

160 >What's amazing is that 5 centuries later, we still talk about him all the time. Well, his life and times did a lot to create the world we live in.

Posted by: Tom Servo

and there's that song

Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 09:09 PM (geLO8)

161 Continuing on, last night I watched The Shadow with Alec "Shooter" Baldwin.

Meh.

It had its moments. Penelope Ann Miller is...how can I put this...*Whistles and catcalls* Gaw'DAYUM!

But mostly it's just stupid. I don't understand why when he was in Shadow mode Baldwin had a big fake prosthetic nose. And it didn't even look like Baldwin. I think it was his stunt double. And maybe this is just me because of all the unpleasantness of the past few years but the way he wears his scarf over his face...below his nose. I hate the masking but it's also absurd seeing people wear a mask below their nose. Good job, buddy! I don't imagine I noticed it when I saw the movie in theater ( and that was the only other time I saw it) but it really annoyed me.

But the film had its moments. Little shots here and there. A message going through a pressurized tube, for example. The scenes with Baldwin and the villain talking to each other were kind of fun. Penelope Ann Miller, who is bonerlicious.

Mostly it's just forgettable and Baldwin is miscast. It's not that I regret buying it but it's one of those rare movies I've actively thought I'm never going to watch this again.

Posted by: Robert, feelin' spicy at March 25, 2023 09:09 PM (1Yy3c)

162 Why is it the chicks with the nicest racks get whacked first in the movies?

Blood of Dracula on Svengoolie.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 25, 2023 09:10 PM (ufFY8)

163 probably the most expensive special effects was the love scene btwn Sofia and Anthony Perkins in "Desire under the elms"

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 09:10 PM (us2H3)

164 Ahhh, but to a 8-12 y/o they were good fun.

And that's the point. Good memories.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2023 09:10 PM (Xrfse)

165 156 145 Henry VIII was quite a monster if you think about it.
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:04 PM (V13WU)

What's amazing is that 5 centuries later, we still talk about him all the time. Well, his life and times did a lot to create the world we live in.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:07 PM (r46W7)

I got a good bit of mileage out of the old boy.

Posted by: Rick Wakeman at March 25, 2023 09:11 PM (CCSxw)

166
and there's that song
Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 09:09 PM (geLO

"I'm her 8th old man I'm 'Enery; 'Enery the 8th I yam I yam! 'Enery the 8th I yam!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:12 PM (r46W7)

167 Most history written at the time for the approval of the current dude in charge is bosh - either lauding him or slanging mud at those he toppled to get on top.

Even classic histories from Rome tended to end abruptly when history started to leak into current politics.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 25, 2023 09:06 PM (eoQWY)

all true. this one is particularly fascinating. for 500 years everyone relied on Shakespeare and St. Thomas. All made up it seems.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:12 PM (V13WU)

168 Penelope Ann Miller in The Freshman.

Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2023 09:12 PM (SYTee)

169 Watched Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. Honestly? It's not terrible

I like it better than III and IV.

I'd basically rate the series: II, I, VI, V, III, and IV (best to worst).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 25, 2023 09:13 PM (KFhLj)

170 Forgive me but I'm going to go bizarrely off topic. I'm watching a video of Anthony Bourdain in Tangier.
Now Tangier was famous as free city for stoners and sodomites.
When will we have a free city for heterosexual Christians who are square.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 25, 2023 09:13 PM (eGTCV)

171 No one will remember that silly Chinese whatchamacallit everything movie in a year

but people will wear out their Top Gun DVDs
Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 08:42 PM (geLO

One thing consistent about Hollywood in my lifetime was that they hated their customers poisonously, despite them making them rich. Their problem now is that they have gone from shafting popular movies at the awards to the occasional "rural america/suburban america is de DEBBIL" movie to having non stop unentertaining propaganda.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 25, 2023 09:13 PM (eoQWY)

172 It somehow made a joke about trannies and the computer creating the episodes was cancelled. Not even a person. A computer.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five?

"Nothing, Forever". Here's an article about it from earlier this year:

https://tinyurl.com/Nothing-Forever

Now I must find this show.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 25, 2023 09:14 PM (6iRBQ)

173 I've mentioned it before but Extraordinary Attorney Woo is charming and the lead actress is freakin' cute as hell.

Cute girls go a long way. A very long way. I need more cute girls in my life.

Bring to me all the cute girls!

Posted by: Robert, feelin' spicy at March 25, 2023 09:14 PM (1Yy3c)

174 I saw this movie in English Lit class in 11th grade. Our teacher actually took the time to teach us about the characters and the background of what was going on.

That same teacher also taught Greek mythology. She was great. My school favorite teacher ever.

Posted by: fd at March 25, 2023 09:14 PM (iayUP)

175 "Most history written at the time for the approval of the current dude in charge is bosh "

Living in the Current Year for several years has made me look at all of the history I was taught and have read as seriously sus.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:15 PM (MvF+J)

176 Saw Jesus Revolution last night with some friends. It's a very good movie, bordering on great.

Kelsey Grammer is good, and the guy who plays Lonnie Frisbee was fantastic. It's a good cast, portraying the beginnings of the Jesus Movement at the turn of the decade 60s-70s.

I think it's fairly accurate, Greg Laurie being a consultant, I think.

I would recommend even as a historical pic, and it's a pretty good "Christian movie", too.

Posted by: GWB at March 25, 2023 09:15 PM (NJ9MR)

177 A terrorist faction infected the park with a malicious bit of code that made all of the animatronics essentially evil and kill all of the tourists who were there.

Similar to "Five Nights At Freddies" - which is essentially what if Chuckie Cheese Anamatronics were evil and killed people?

Note they tried to cancel the guy behind FNaF when they found out he was a Christian but it looks like it only worked for a while.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2023 09:16 PM (lc5cP)

178 When will we have a free city for heterosexual Christians who are square.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 25, 2023 09:13 PM (eGTCV)

Quess Kansas City's right out?

Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2023 09:16 PM (AwYPR)

179 176 Saw Jesus Revolution last night with some friends. It's a very good movie, bordering on great.

Kelsey Grammer is good, and the guy who plays Lonnie Frisbee was fantastic. It's a good cast, portraying the beginnings of the Jesus Movement at the turn of the decade 60s-70s.

I think it's fairly accurate, Greg Laurie being a consultant, I think.

I would recommend even as a historical pic, and it's a pretty good "Christian movie", too.
Posted by: GWB at March 25, 2023 09:15 PM (NJ9MR)

I know a bunch of people who were part of the Jesus people movement. Not me, even thought I was of that generation.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 25, 2023 09:18 PM (eGTCV)

180 St. Thomas More is the patron saint of adopted children, civil servants, court clerks, lawyers, politicians, stepparents, and widowers.

Posted by: Neo at March 25, 2023 09:18 PM (RovqD)

181 I've always thought that a good movie thread would be best movie scenes.

Posted by: Javems at March 25, 2023 09:18 PM (le94c)

182
The War Lord > El Cid

Unfortunately they never play The War Lord on TV and it's not available On Demand.
Posted by: polynikes

It's on the Movieland TV channel for free on ROKU.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 25, 2023 09:18 PM (63Dwl)

183 "what if Chuckie Cheese Anamatronics were evil and killed people?"

Chuck E Cheese needs human-sized Rock Em Sock Em Robots for their customers to compete with.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:18 PM (MvF+J)

184 Prayer to Saint Thomas More for Lawyers

Thomas More, counselor of law and statesman of integrity, merry martyr and most human of saints:

Pray that, for the glory of God and in the pursuit of His justice, I may be trustworthy with confidences, keen in study, accurate in analysis, correct in conclusion, able in argument, loyal to clients, honest with all, courteous to adversaries, ever attentive to conscience. Sit with me at my desk and listen with me to my clients’ tales. Read with me in my library and stand always beside me so that today I shall not, to win a point, lose my soul.

Pray that my family may find in me what yours found in you: friendship and courage, cheerfulness and charity, diligence in duties, counsel in adversity, patience in pain—their good servant, and God’s first. Amen.

Posted by: Neo at March 25, 2023 09:19 PM (RovqD)

185 Having just spent north of $50 bucks for the tickets and drinks, I don't make this recommendation lightly..
Posted by: Joe Kidd

I bought the videogame Hunting2 on sale for $15. I've been playing pretty steady and I think I'm on my last mission in Ranger mode and am sorry to see it go. I checked the stats and I've played for 24 hours and a few minutes, about 60¢ an hour. That's some bang for my entertainment buck.

P.S. Both Call of the Wild and The Way of the Hunter are better hunting games.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 25, 2023 09:20 PM (FVME7)

186 What's amazing is that 5 centuries later, we still talk about him all the time. Well, his life and times did a lot to create the world we live in.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:07 PM (r46W7)

Even leaving out the 6 wives and other debacles, his wrenching of England out of the orbit of the Catholic states assured that North and Central Europe would be able to develop more independently and with less entrenched friction than was possible in the status quo Catholic states. Thus the center of gravity moved away from the Med and more towards the Channel and North Sea. This obviously affects us in the US as this is were many of us came here from.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 25, 2023 09:21 PM (eoQWY)

187 Kung Fu Hustle is a lot of fun, but leans heavily on the absurd. The 36 Chambers / Master Killer is an attempt at a more realistic (but still borderline superhero mortal, think John Wick) portrayal of the training and perfection of the shaolin monk.

FWIW I just searched and it's on dailymotion if you want to sample it before you buy it.

https://tinyurl.com/2z6lm7k4

Go to 55:17 and get a feel for the movie.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 09:21 PM (5lbKt)

188 Who are they going to talk about in 500 years? Will they still be talking about Henry the Eighth? Will anybody even remember the song? Or will it all be erased, by madness or SMOD?

Posted by: fd at March 25, 2023 09:22 PM (iayUP)

189 He was quite the player, supposedly.
Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2023 09:07 PM (AwYPR)

Think his wearing of those little tight white shorts had anything to do with making-babies problems?

Posted by: GWB at March 25, 2023 09:22 PM (NJ9MR)

190 I've always thought that a good movie thread would be best movie scenes.
Posted by: Javems

I once heard some expert opine that a good movie is one with three good scenes and no bad scenes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 25, 2023 09:22 PM (FVME7)

191 I don't think wokesters would allow for the creation of a free Christian heterosexual square city.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 25, 2023 09:22 PM (eGTCV)

192 Keep in mind that he's already completed strength building chambers to reach the bell ringing chamber.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 09:22 PM (5lbKt)

193 Jessie Jane Duff has herself some hooters

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 09:23 PM (us2H3)

194 Henry VIII was quite a monster if you think about it.
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:04 PM (V13WU)

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Yep. Not allowing Katherine to see her own daughter in the last years of her life was sadistic.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 25, 2023 09:23 PM (s12c9)

195 The problem with Vince Vaughn as Norman Bates is that, like Jack Nicholson in "The Shining", he seems sketchy from the get-go.

Anthony Perkins played all-American guys before "Psycho" and he just seemed like a friendly if awkward kid until The Reveal.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 09:24 PM (Dc2NZ)

196 It’s a good movie, though More was obviously wrong about a person being protected from the Devil by man’s laws.

Breaking the law is kinda the Devil’s way of going about things.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 25, 2023 09:24 PM (Kopm8)

197 Some of us here in this very same moron congregation may see (will see) persecution and perhaps experience martyrdom. It's happened throughout history and we can't think ourselves too good or lucky to dodge this possibility, or rather, probability.

Posted by: Eromero at March 25, 2023 09:25 PM (MF3yS)

198 Way o/t, but did you watch any of The Sheffield 2023 competition.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 09:06 PM (CCSxw)

I did! I watched in chunks during the day--paused it and came back later. And yeah, all of that--the records, the falling over the bar, I enjoyed all of it. And, it's inspiring. Hard to believe wimmens, in particular, can lift that much weight. And still look like wimmens.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 09:25 PM (OX9vb)

199 My 6th grade teacher took our class to see "A Man for all Seasons." I did not understand any of it. I'm sure I'd enjoy seeing it again 57 years later, now that I know a little more about the concepts and context.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:25 PM (MvF+J)

200 Who are they going to talk about in 500 years?

I suspect either the prime figures behind the junta will be known by then, or educated people of the time will think about American like we right now think about Venice. It was...some sort of Republic right? And really strong until...it wasn't.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2023 09:26 PM (lc5cP)

201 George Orwell on Official History: "Early in life I had noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories, and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’."

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:27 PM (r46W7)

202 "Who are they going to talk about in 500 years?"

'How about those Cubs?'

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:27 PM (MvF+J)

203 203 Sounds so much like today.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:28 PM (MvF+J)

204 "Who are they going to talk about in 500 years?"

Out of the chaos rose the man who colonized Mars.

Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2023 09:28 PM (SYTee)

205 I don't think wokesters would allow for the creation of a free Christian heterosexual square city.
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 25, 2023 09:22 PM (eGTCV)

They might if it had barbed wire around it.

Posted by: GWB at March 25, 2023 09:28 PM (NJ9MR)

206 Best The Reveals in movies ! Ok, Psycho is one. The Crying Game The Reveal is another. Empire Strikes Back and (SPOILER ALERT) Vader's reveal. The Sith Sense. Others ??

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:29 PM (V13WU)

207 206 Best The Reveals in movies ! Ok, Psycho is one. The Crying Game The Reveal is another. Empire Strikes Back and (SPOILER ALERT) Vader's reveal. The Sith Sense. Others ??
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:29 PM (V13WU)

Random Harvest

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 09:30 PM (us2H3)

208 "Best The Reveals in movies..."

Phoebe Cates in Fast Times.

Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2023 09:31 PM (SYTee)

209 "Random Harvest"

Such a good movie

Posted by: Tuna at March 25, 2023 09:31 PM (gLRfa)

210 I don't think wokesters would allow for the creation of a free Christian heterosexual square city.

One of the real potential black swan events that could happen is a right wing activist state government that *aggressively* enforces conservative/normal/traditional ideals.

Imagine, for example, if a more strident DeSantis like pol got a law passed to criminalize say...tranny bottom surgery for kids...and actually had someone hanged for it.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (lc5cP)

211 Even leaving out the 6 wives and other debacles, his wrenching of England out of the orbit of the Catholic states assured that North and Central Europe would be able to develop more independently and with less entrenched friction than was possible in the status quo Catholic states. Thus the center of gravity moved away from the Med and more towards the Channel and North Sea. This obviously affects us in the US as this is were many of us came here from.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 25, 2023 09:21 PM (eoQWY)

Also, Henry put more money and effort in creating a truly effective Navy than any monarch, either of England or on the continent, had ever done before. He's still remembered as the Creator of the Royal Navy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (r46W7)

212 Love this movie. Really like the scene where Henry has his boat row up to Thomas' house and he whirls in. The pic above with Henry is from that scene. Incredibly vigorous Henry every bit a non Constitutional King.

Lafferty published Past Master in 1968. He had to have seen this film. And been influenced by it.

I'm a huge fan of the book. More gets taken to the future to run for President in the hopes he can resolve what appears to be cultural rot.

Obv it too deals with themes applicable to our times. Idk perhaps even more relevantly than A Man For All Seasons.

It's a great fun book. If you like Sci-fi and haven't read it maybe check it out.

Posted by: Thesokorus at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (1ais2)

213 The raptors chasing the kids in the kitchen in Jurassic Park was good.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (ufFY8)

214 One of my favorite scenes. Super duper special proscutor George C. Scott asks one question to many in his cross examination in Anatomy of a Murder.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (FVME7)

215 Best The Reveals in movies ! Ok, Psycho is one. The Crying Game The Reveal is another. Empire Strikes Back and (SPOILER ALERT) Vader's reveal. The Sith Sense. Others ??
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:29 PM (V13WU)

"You bastards! It was Earth all along!!!!!"

Posted by: Robert, feelin' spicy at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (1Yy3c)

216 Imagine, for example, if a more strident DeSantis like pol got a law passed to criminalize say...tranny bottom surgery for kids...and actually had someone hanged for it.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (lc5cP)

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Go on....

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 25, 2023 09:33 PM (s12c9)

217 Imagine, for example, if a more strident DeSantis like pol got a law passed to criminalize say...tranny bottom surgery for kids...and actually had someone hanged for it.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (lc5cP)

Do you have a newsletter?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 25, 2023 09:33 PM (ufFY8)

218 208 "Best The Reveals in movies..."

Phoebe Cates in Fast Times.
Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2023 09:31 PM (SYTee)

Amanda Peet in Whole Nine Yards.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 25, 2023 09:33 PM (zZu0s)

219 Cates reveal does not qualify as The Reveal for the purpose of The Reveals we are talking about.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:33 PM (V13WU)

220 Hard to believe wimmens, in particular, can lift that much weight. And still look like wimmens.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 09:25 PM (OX9vb)

For every "super heavy" out there like Bonica Brown, there are "normal sized" 76kg's and on down the weight chart.

My favorite women's lifter is Jessica Buettner from Canada. She's a type 1 diabetic, competing at the top level of the sport. She's a pharmacist in real life.

Hell, for years my training partner was an 84kg+ competitor...and she was cute as a button, and pretty damn strong too. Not Sheffield strong, but a ranked lifter within the USAPL at the time. She's since moved over to Olympic lifting.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 09:34 PM (CCSxw)

221 "Who are they going to talk about in 500 years?"

By then, they'll evolve to the point where they don't have knees to slap, but they'll still be laughing at how wrong relativity, quantum mechanics, and the standard model turned out to be.

Their legal scholars will still be pondering the landmark Paltrow case, and how she ever managed to receive a sentence of life without parole.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:34 PM (MvF+J)

222 It's a great fun book. If you like Sci-fi and haven't read it maybe check it out.
Posted by: Thesokorus at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (1ais2)
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I bought it after seeing "AMFAS" and never read it. My oldest TBR! I wonder where it is.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 09:34 PM (Dc2NZ)

223 Henry clearly had an interest in seeing an heir. Charles V seems to have been intransigent for For Pol reasons. The Pope caught between.

Posted by: Thesokorus at March 25, 2023 09:35 PM (1ais2)

224 169 I like it better than III and IV.

I'd basically rate the series: II, I, VI, V, III, and IV (best to worst).
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 25, 2023 09:13 PM (KFhLj)

I see Star Trek IV and V as each other's inverse. ST V has an interesting premise but was poorly executed. On the other hand, ST IV was very well executed yet has a premise that is pants-on-head retarded.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 25, 2023 09:35 PM (DTX3h)

225 For me, what makes a great movie is Pacing (with good, well written characters, of course) For example, I recently rewatched "Shaft!" and was amazed at how well that movie stands up! The pacing is brilliant, every scene moves fast and flows seamlessly into the next, and at the end you think this 90 minute film has taken no time at all, it pull you along so. Bullitt is this way too, most of the great movies are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:35 PM (r46W7)

226 Best reveal I've seen recently was The Endless. You knew *something* was happening but what is was is so much weirder then you expect...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2023 09:35 PM (lc5cP)

227 I heard "The Usual Suspects" ended with a big reveal, but I've not seen it.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:36 PM (MvF+J)

228 Also, Henry put more money and effort in creating a truly effective Navy than any monarch, either of England or on the continent, had ever done before. He's still remembered as the Creator of the Royal Navy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (r46W7)

Where as Cromwell gets a tip of the hat for creating the Modern Army.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 09:36 PM (CCSxw)

229 Tudors were punished for snuffing out the Plantagenets. Maybe if they left Richard the III alive....

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:36 PM (V13WU)

230 The Crying Game The Reveal is another

One of my favorite movies

Posted by: David French at March 25, 2023 09:37 PM (lc5cP)

231 Unbreakable has a good reveal.

Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2023 09:37 PM (SYTee)

232 "Who are they going to talk about in 500 years?"

'How about those Cubs?'

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:27 PM (MvF+J)

Here?....fookin' hobbits.

Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2023 09:37 PM (AwYPR)

233 206 Best The Reveals in movies ! Ok, Psycho is one. The Crying Game The Reveal is another. Empire Strikes Back and (SPOILER ALERT) Vader's reveal. The Sith Sense. Others ??
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:29 PM (V13WU)

Schindler's List

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 09:38 PM (us2H3)

234 I can picture a free Christian city in Uganda or Kenya.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 25, 2023 09:38 PM (eGTCV)

235 208 "Best The Reveals in movies..."

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 25, 2023 09:38 PM (DTX3h)

236 "Who are they going to talk about in 500 years?"

==

The weather ?

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:39 PM (V13WU)

237 Fight Club. Watch the movie a second time and it's completely different.

Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2023 09:39 PM (SYTee)

238 People is 500 years will be the same as they are now as much as we are the same as people 500 years ago.

I agree it may be Musk who is remembered as the guy who got us off Earth. I wonder if they will remember George Washington.

Posted by: fd at March 25, 2023 09:39 PM (iayUP)

239 So, do they still make Chunky(s).

Posted by: From about that Time at March 25, 2023 09:39 PM (4780s)

240 I heard "The Usual Suspects" ended with a big reveal, but I've not seen it.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:36 PM (MvF+J)

Yeah. Just saw the Ashleigh Burton chick watching it the other day. Good movie.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 25, 2023 09:39 PM (ufFY8)

241 Also, Henry put more money and effort in creating a truly effective Navy than any monarch, either of England or on the continent, had ever done before. He's still remembered as the Creator of the Royal Navy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (r46W7)

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*ahem*

Posted by: Peter the Great at March 25, 2023 09:40 PM (s12c9)

242 I bought it after seeing "AMFAS" and never read it. My oldest TBR! I wonder where it is.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 09:34 PM (Dc2NZ)

It's wild man. Fabian Foreman. Hahahahha. And robot enforcers for the gov. Or are they? Are they even robots? And Peter Proctor the fox with an asbestos tail....

Posted by: Thesokorus at March 25, 2023 09:40 PM (1ais2)

243 A list of some of my favorite movie reveals

The Endless
Donnie Darko
The Prestige
The Game
Fallen
Memento
The Others

Posted by: 18-1 at March 25, 2023 09:40 PM (lc5cP)

244 238 People is 500 years will be the same as they are now as much as we are the same as people 500 years ago.

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Nope. Dumber.

Much dumber.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 25, 2023 09:41 PM (s12c9)

245 I think Washington will be talked about, just as we talk about Charlemagne.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:42 PM (V13WU)

246 That chick movie where they drove off the cliff and it revealed the end of the movie. That was great.

Posted by: fd at March 25, 2023 09:42 PM (iayUP)

247 "The Endless" -- great movie.

After enjoying "Synchronic" I thought I'd go on a Moorehead and Benson binge and see their movie "Something in the Dirt". It's a sort of comic horror conspiracy docudrama about two guys who have apartments in a gnarly area of LA who start to witness unusual phenomena in their building. One is a stoner slacker and the other is an uptight photographer. They see (or imagine) all sorts of connections and they slowly, and then very quickly, go down the rabbit hole.

My favorite part is when guy slices open a weird fruit, looks at the seeds, and says "Is that morse code?!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 09:42 PM (Dc2NZ)

248 227 I heard "The Usual Suspects" ended with a big reveal, but I've not seen it.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:36 PM (MvF+J)

Watch it! One of my top 5 movies of all time. It has an ending that makes you want to instantly rewatch it, because in the last minute you realize that everything you thought was going on was slightly (but crucially) different than what was actually going on. And a classic use of the "untrustworthy narrator" character.

The first time I watched it, I kept noticing small inconsistencies, things that didn't make good sense, and I thought it was just sloppy writing. Suddenly you see why every one of those things was very intentional.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:42 PM (r46W7)

249 I think Washington will be talked about, just as we talk about Charlemagne.

The rapper? I wonder why he named himself after a drink?

Posted by: Your Average LIV at March 25, 2023 09:42 PM (lc5cP)

250 For every "super heavy" out there like Bonica Brown, there are "normal sized" 76kg's and on down the weight chart.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 09:34 PM (CCSxw)

Even Bonica, as a super heavy, looks 100% female. She's just a big girl. Buettner is the one who fell over the bar on the deadlift, right? I saw those little insulin test things on her arms, and realized she's diabetic.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 09:42 PM (OX9vb)

251 OK, I got off my ass and looked (googled). Chunky bars, yes still.

Posted by: From about that Time at March 25, 2023 09:43 PM (4780s)

252 After enjoying "Synchronic" I thought I'd go on a Moorehead and Benson binge and see their movie "Something in the Dirt".

I do wonder if you gave them a block buster level budget what they'd make...probably something amazing...

Posted by: Your Average LIV at March 25, 2023 09:43 PM (lc5cP)

253 248 I shall!

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:44 PM (MvF+J)

254 Human history does not always move forward. We had the dark ages you know. All the good stuff was forgotten. Men devolved.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:44 PM (V13WU)

255 I'd basically rate the series: II, I, VI, V, III, and IV (best to worst).
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 25, 2023 09:13 PM (KFhLj)

———-

YouTuber Stam Fine has been doing some good reviews of the Star Trek franchise. He’s up to ST:IV

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 25, 2023 09:44 PM (Kopm8)

256 *ahem*
Posted by: Peter the Great at March 25, 2023 09:40 PM (s12c9)

Gotcha beat by almost two centuries, Peter!

Posted by: Henry VIII at March 25, 2023 09:44 PM (r46W7)

257 People is 500 years will be the same as they are now as much as we are the same as people 500 years ago.

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Nope. Dumber.

Much dumber.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 25, 2023 09:41 PM (s12c9)

The Marching Morons

Posted by: Cyril M. Kornbluth at March 25, 2023 09:45 PM (ufFY8)

258 I don't regret having watches Something in the Dirt, but I don't know that I liked it either. For me, Moorehead and Benson's movies are kinda like a reverse evolutionary chart; I like each film less than the one they did before.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 25, 2023 09:46 PM (KFhLj)

259 They say Book of Elijah was a reveal. I disagree because they just played it as a sighted guy and then indicated at the end he was blind.

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 09:46 PM (+hsEU)

260 >>Unfortunately they never play The War Lord on TV and it's not available On Demand.
Posted by: polynikes

I posted a link upthread
free, in HD
no captcha. no 'enter your email', nothing
click on it and watch it

Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 09:46 PM (geLO8)

261 I remember a movie back in the 90's? That was a bunch of guys going on a hunting trip. He just didn't realize he was going to be the hunted. Can't remember the name, but it kept me glued to my chair. *shiver*

Posted by: Infidel at March 25, 2023 09:46 PM (DnRmW)

262 "People is 500 years will be the same as they are now as much as we are the same as people 500 years ago."

People today are taller than they were only 100 years ago IIRC, and of course our lifespans are longer. In 50 years, everybody's going to have an embedded brain terminal and shared cloud consciousness. In 500 years, we'll be skinny sparkling energy-snot globs, like at the end of Kubrick's "AI."

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:47 PM (MvF+J)

263 Best entrance onscreen:

Grace Kelly, Rear Window

Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 09:47 PM (geLO8)

264 208 "Best The Reveals in movies..."

The Usual Suspects

No Way Out

There are more, probably better, but those two came to mind first.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 09:47 PM (OTXUv)

265 There were dumb people 500 years ago. Treacherous power mongers too. For all our technology, we are still mostly just dumb.

Posted by: fd at March 25, 2023 09:47 PM (iayUP)

266 254 Human history does not always move forward. We had the dark ages you know. All the good stuff was forgotten. Men devolved.
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:44 PM (V13WU)

there was another centuries long dark ages starting around 1200 BC, when all the great civilizations of deep antiquity collapsed. If what some have said is true - that these things happen every 1600 years - we might be due for another.

Posted by: Henry VIII at March 25, 2023 09:48 PM (r46W7)

267 The Usual Suspects

No Way Out

There are more, probably better, but those two came to mind first.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 09:47 PM (OTXUv)

LA Confidential

Posted by: Henry VIII at March 25, 2023 09:48 PM (r46W7)

268 Julio Rosas@Julio_Rosas11
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee praises the ATF for the rule change on stabilizing braces: "I commend the ATF for... identifying a problem and providing guidance to prevent the harm created by the misuse of stabilizing braces, which convert every day firearms into killing machines."

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Before they were just children's toys.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 25, 2023 09:48 PM (FVME7)

269 >"Best The Reveals in movies..."

the shark, when Chief Brody is chumming

Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 09:48 PM (geLO8)

270 He just didn't realize he was going to be the hunted. Can't remember the name, but it kept me glued to my chair. *shiver*
Posted by: Infidel at March 25, 2023 09:46 PM (DnRmW)

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: sore assed Ned Beatty at March 25, 2023 09:49 PM (ufFY8)

271 @248

>>Watch it! One of my top 5 movies of all time.

It is a great but the ending should kill any potential for rewatchability, but what keeps bringing you back is that the acting performances of all of the characters in the film are superb.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 25, 2023 09:49 PM (up/3i)

272 269 >"Best The Reveals in movies..."

The Sheriff in Blazing Saddles

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 25, 2023 09:50 PM (s12c9)

273 Julio Rosas@Julio_Rosas11
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee praises the ATF for the rule change on stabilizing braces: "I commend the ATF for... identifying a problem and providing guidance to prevent the harm created by the misuse of stabilizing braces, which convert every day firearms into killing machines."
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That, so far as I can tell, have been used in one (1) incident, committed by a Democrat cross dresser iirc.

40M other ones? Nothing.

Posted by: Daddy, why are muffin pans made with twelve spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 09:50 PM (0+Kup)

274 206 Best The Reveals in movies ! Ok, Psycho is one. The Crying Game The Reveal is another. Empire Strikes Back and (SPOILER ALERT) Vader's reveal. The Sith Sense. Others ??
Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:29 PM (V13WU)

there will be blood

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 09:51 PM (us2H3)

275 This slipped by me from Aetius451AD:

"Westworld" wasn't woke. I mean, the original one. I don't recall it that way, anyway.

Problem with a "reveal" thread is it's basically "SPOILERS: The Post".

||I remember a movie back in the 90's? That was a bunch of guys going on a hunting trip. He just didn't realize he was going to be the hunted. Can't remember the name,

"The Most Dangerous Game" is a short story from...1932? It is the template from which literally hundreds of movies have drawn.

Posted by: blake at March 25, 2023 09:51 PM (asXVI)

276 Saw.

Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2023 09:51 PM (SYTee)

277 270 Don't they call that a 'jump scene?' Like the chest-bursting scene in "Alien." In the theater where I first saw it, some people literally jumped up from their seats.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:51 PM (MvF+J)

278 261 I remember a movie back in the 90's? That was a bunch of guys going on a hunting trip. He just didn't realize he was going to be the hunted. Can't remember the name, but it kept me glued to my chair. *shiver*
Posted by: Infidel at March 25, 2023 09:46 PM (DnRmW)

Surviving the Game?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 25, 2023 09:51 PM (DTX3h)

279 The Sheriff in Blazing Saddles
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 25, 2023 09:50 PM (s12c9)

Do what he say!
Do what he say!

Posted by: Hostage Sheriff Bart at March 25, 2023 09:51 PM (ufFY8)

280 Predestination has a great reveal. That film is so jacked up on every level.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 25, 2023 09:51 PM (KFhLj)

281 That 270 turned into a 269.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:52 PM (MvF+J)

282 277 270 Don't they call that a 'jump scene?' Like the chest-bursting scene in "Alien." In the theater where I first saw it, some people literally jumped up from their seats.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 09:51 PM (MvF+J)

the omen

Posted by: REDACTED at March 25, 2023 09:52 PM (us2H3)

283 My favorite reveal was Fraility.

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 09:53 PM (IhbYA)

284 Entrances could be fun.

Alice Krige as the Borg Queen in First Contact
Uma Thurman as Aphrodite in Baron Munchausen
Rita Hayworth as Gilda

Posted by: blake at March 25, 2023 09:54 PM (asXVI)

285 https://youtu.be/KiJfI5A0pso

I've been watching funny, less than kind, reviews of the Netflix attempt at Cowboy BeBop. Funneh, brutal, and spot on. There are several out there. I liked this one.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 09:54 PM (OTXUv)

286 It's just wrong to put down Nelson Eddy movies as "worst ever" if you also like gala-ass musicals made into movies. Eddy did operettas, the precursor to big musicals, and they called for a different kind of acting and scene depiction. Gordon MacRae was pretty good at them, too, and they were still around for Mario Lanza. Not your fave? Of course. They have long gone out of fashion -- but then, we are watching Everything Everywhere All At Once, so maybe we should not knock stout-hearted men.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 25, 2023 09:54 PM (jYCXf)

287 "Don't they call that a 'jump scene?' "

You want jump scenes? What Lies Beneath.

Also a great reveal.

Posted by: davidt at March 25, 2023 09:54 PM (SYTee)

288 I thought the ending of the meh Terminator 3 was a really good reveal.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 25, 2023 09:55 PM (OTXUv)

289 Even Bonica, as a super heavy, looks 100% female. She's just a big girl. Buettner is the one who fell over the bar on the deadlift, right? I saw those little insulin test things on her arms, and realized she's diabetic.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 25, 2023 09:42 PM (OX9vb)

Correct...

I think she might have run a little low at that moment. Normally she's the type of person who pulls what ever you put on the bar...and that was only 1kg over her personal (and at that time, World Record) of 600lbs.

Amanda breaking that record by 7.5kg was mind blowing. Records like that go up in .5kg to 1kg increments...normally.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 09:55 PM (CCSxw)

290 I want to see Schindler's List, but I don't like Holocaust imagery. How graphic is this movie?

Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 09:56 PM (geLO8)

291 @285

>>I've been watching funny, less than kind, reviews of the Netflix attempt at Cowboy BeBop. Funneh, brutal, and spot on. There are several out there. I liked this one.

Other than the tone, the actors, the race bending, the outright hatred for the character she was playing, and just about everything being as far removed from the source material as you could possible imagine, I can't see why anyone would hate it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 25, 2023 09:56 PM (up/3i)

292 Anybody see Archive 81? It was a good series about a film archivist who is asked to restore some old reels and uncovers an old Hollywood death cult.

BUT...

I am guilty of lobbing f-bombs, but this show takes it to carpet bombing level. The two lead characters are quiet, thoughtful individuals but every sentence has FUCK in it. Every character cusses. Once you notice it you can't unhear it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at March 25, 2023 09:57 PM (Dc2NZ)

293 Speaking of reveals, Alice Krige was in a movie called Ghost Story. based on Straub's novel. That had a reveal and a half.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:57 PM (V13WU)

294 I want to see Schindler's List, but I don't like Holocaust imagery. How graphic is this movie?
Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 09:56 PM (geLO

I don't remember it being graphic. But only saw it once and long ago.

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 09:59 PM (V13WU)

295 I'm a big fan of long shots so another two scenes I liked, both from The Longest Day. The first is the Kraut pilot stafes the allies along the beach. The other is the French storm through the city, cross the canal over a foot bridge, and approach the casino before being driven to ground.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 25, 2023 10:00 PM (FVME7)

296 I think I said this last movie thread but Jo Jo Rabbit has been my best movie is really good surprise in a long time.

Posted by: polynikes at March 25, 2023 10:01 PM (IhbYA)

297 || I want to see Schindler's List, but I don't like Holocaust imagery. How graphic is this movie?

I mean, it's Spielberg. It borders on the too-sanitized.

|| Speaking of reveals, Alice Krige was in a movie called Ghost Story. based on Straub's novel. That had a reveal and a half.

I suppose calling it "seminal" would be too "on the nose".

Posted by: blake at March 25, 2023 10:01 PM (asXVI)

298 292 Gratuitous profane dialogue cinema milestone for me was maybe its comedic use in "Midnight Run." That was part of the word of mouth that brought in audiences. I laffed heartily. Love him, hate him, DeNiro can curse with the best of em.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 10:02 PM (MvF+J)

299 I want to see Schindler's List, but I don't like Holocaust imagery. How graphic is this movie?
Posted by: DB - doing the thing at March 25, 2023 09:56 PM (geLO

I don't remember it being graphic. But only saw it once and long ago.
Posted by: runner

It's pretty graphic. Not the body horror of the first twenty mnutes of Saving Private Ryan but emotionally graphic situations. I think it is a great movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 25, 2023 10:03 PM (FVME7)

300 I used to enjoy DeNiro so much. I don't know if Trump stole his girlfriend or wouldn't sell him some property or what, be he absolutely broke him.

I hate that he outed himself as a whiny little girl. He definitely proved his acting skills to have pretended so well all those decades, though.

Posted by: Daddy, why do muffin pans have 12 spaces instead of five? at March 25, 2023 10:04 PM (5lbKt)

301 NOOD. Thanks for comin' by, everyone!

Posted by: blake at March 25, 2023 10:05 PM (asXVI)

302 The Marching Morons is from 72 years ago.
Sure, you read and liked it. Doesn't make it "generational." We are already, if you believe this kind of shit, not the same species as the man who wrote it.

Most of the Old Testament happened during the "Greek Dark Age," and the whole development of the Christian church belongs to the other one. Back in the Faith v Science days, a great deal was made of this. More lately, some have said that there are different kinds of "science" and "progress." Except during plagues, Dark Age people didn't know the age was dark. It's just us, thinking we are very bright.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 25, 2023 10:05 PM (jYCXf)

303 "I want to see Schindler's List, but I don't like Holocaust imagery. How graphic is this movie?"

I'm on the fence whether I want to see it again because a couple scenes are hard to take. But there are plenty of newer WWII movies that are far more horrifying now.

A brilliant turn-your-stomach movie is "Katyn" (2007.) I consider it a must-see, but only once. Nobody will ever want to watch it twice.

I met one of the Polish "Katyn" film-makers on ham radio.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at March 25, 2023 10:06 PM (MvF+J)

304 It's pretty graphic. Not the body horror of the first twenty mnutes of Saving Private Ryan but emotionally graphic situations. I think it is a great movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 25, 2023 10:03 PM (FVME7)

The part of Saving Private Ryan that still gives me the creeps is the battle between the German and the GI in the apartment...where the German slowly knifes the GI, saying: shhhh, shhhh...while driving the knife deeper into the GI's chest.

eeeeeessshhhhh

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 25, 2023 10:07 PM (CCSxw)

305 Thanks for another great thread, moviegique !

Posted by: runner at March 25, 2023 10:08 PM (V13WU)

306 Robert, the Shadow movie is a call back to the radio show and the pulps, and the Shadow was always shown in the illustrations with a large nose.
Also the comic books.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2023 10:30 PM (xhaym)

307 Also, Henry put more money and effort in creating a truly effective Navy than any monarch, either of England or on the continent, had ever done before. He's still remembered as the Creator of the Royal Navy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2023 09:32 PM (r46W7)

His need for cannon was one of the things that drove the development of cannon foundries in England since he was unable to buy from Europe. The sheer width of the technology and resources needed for successful cannon foundries requires an overturning of an agricultural society, and disrupts those societies' social hierarchies. Other states in Europe were unable to make the change, Spain and Portugal were unable at the beginning, Russia required a good century to get their industry up and working, and the German princedoms relied heavily on the techniques of the English about 200 years later. The need for cannon was another way that the Tudors changed Europe.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2023 10:46 PM (xhaym)

308 A great selection, TJM. As some discerning critics have noted, More's position was stated as a Catholic, Zinneman directed the movie as a political and social statement. More and Henry VIII had known each other well since their late teens, early 20s and their friendship continued until the final break.

That being said, Thomas More was under no illusion as to the ambitions and methods of his king, stating that if More's head would win the king a city, it would not fail to come off. The author of "Utopia" was no fool.

For those looking for an excellent Thomas More biography, I strongly recommend Peter Acroyd's "The Life of Thomas More".

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