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The Morning Report — 3/23/23

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Good morning kids. Frankly, I don't know why I'm covering the battle between Trump and DeSantis since – along with the nation's continued headlong plunge toward a totalitarian dystopia (world-ending coronal mass ejections notwithstanding) it is a lead pipe cinch that the Democrats will attempt to steal the 2024 election, and all things considered, likely get away with it. Yet again. For the Kurts and Karens around here that insist Joey Sponge-Brain Shits-Pants' 82 million votes were actually cast by 82 million legal registered voters, I give you this article about a detailed audit of the data, the conditions on the ground, combined with the massive amount of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence that would at a minimum cause any reasonable non-Kurt or Karen to raise a Mr. Spock eyebrow to the summit of K2.

But be that as it may, for those of us who think that Trump's past his prime, is too old, made too many mistakes, hate his childish name-calling, etc. etc. and are pinning their hopes on Ron DeSantis as the golden boy who, ironically enough, will carry the movement to restore America that Trump started, maybe we should pause for a second to reconsider that. It might be a bit premature to say he screwed the pooch but for sure "Meatball Ron" might have shot himself in the foot, and on a matter that is far from trivial to say the least.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis toughened his stance on Russian President Vladimir Putin, calling Putin a “war criminal” who should be “held accountable” for the invasion of Ukraine, just days after he claimed the Ukraine war is not a “vital national interest.”

DeSantis angered Republican hawks, Never Trumpers, and neocons less than two weeks ago when he characterized the Ukraine-Russia conflict as a “territorial dispute” that is not a “vital” U.S. interests. . .

. . . DeSantis also said his critics “mischaracterized” his use of the phrase “territorial dispute.”

“Well, I think it’s been mischaracterized,” DeSantis said when asked if he regretted using that language. “Obviously, Russia invaded (last year) — that was wrong. They invaded Crimea and took that in 2014 — That was wrong.” . . .

. . . When asked if he would support any efforts to hold Putin accountable for war crimes, DeSantis affirmed his belief that Putin is a “war criminal,” but fell short of endorsing any trials by the international criminal court (ICC).

“I think he is a war criminal,” DeSantis told Morgan. “This ICC … we have not done that in the U.S. because we’re concerned about our soldiers or people being brought under it. So, I don’t know about that route, but I do think that he should be held accountable.”

[Tucker] Carlson seemingly responded to DeSantis’s tougher stance on Wednesday, criticizing politicians who cave to media pressure and regurgitate “childish slogans” like “Vladimir Putin is a war criminal.

Carlson said:

Welcome to Tucker Carlson Tonight. Let’s enter fantasyland for a moment. Let’s pretend for a sec that our country had a news media that was interested in bringing you the news. Not in lecturing you about your moral inferiority “You’re so bad” or lying to you and transparently obvious ways. “January 6 was an insurrection guys” or even in forcing you to repeat whatever childish slogan they’ve come up with this week. “Vladimir Putin is a war criminal.” Okay. “transwomen are women.” All right, “say it or else.”

Ultimately, DeSantis believes Ukraine will prevail in the war against Russia.

Ugh. Just fucking ugh.

Before people start replying "But Trump did this and Trump did that!" I'm not interested in that right now. We know what Trump did, didn't do and should've done. I'm interested in how the DeSantis boosters can defend this kind of flip-flopping from someone who is supposed to be the greatest thing, well, since Trump. And saying that is not a defense of Trump nor an implication that I support Trump. Before this, and certainly before the Bragg-a-douche-ious attempt to toss him into the Garland Archipelago, I was mostly consigned to throw my support to DeSantis. But no matter how you slice it, this kind of "let-me-be-clear" wishy-washiness is not good.

The fact of the matter is DeSantis was right on target when he said this was a border dispute. And yes, Putin is a war criminal, a thug and generally a not-nice person. And I feel sorry for the innocent people on both sides of that disputed border, which has been disputed for a few hundred years if not longer, who are suffering and dying. But unless and until Putin launches a nuke on the USA or directly attacks our actual national security interests, I could care fuck-all about Ukraine, meaning its corrupt government and banks which are tied at the hip to the ruling class on both sides of the mythical aisle right here. And in fact, I'd be heavily inclined to look the other way if he actually did launch a nuke on D.C.

The other fact of the matter is the base of the Republican Party in the main does not support our sending money to Ukraine, does not support sending troops to Ukraine, and a majority of Americans fear a potential nuclear war over Ukraine.

The other other fact of the matter is Donald Trump feels the same way about this. Unequivocally I might add.

Trump . . . [argued] that our commitment in the region was simply not in America’s strategic interest. 

Retaining his transactional view of diplomacy, Trump spoke like a dealmaker by asserting that it is Europe’s responsibility to pay “far more than [the United States].” He also promised that, as president, he would end the war “in 24 hours.” Given Trump’s foreign policy achievements while president—ranging from North Korea, where he got Kim Jong Un to agree to a nuclear ceasefire, to Afghanistan, where he set into motion the end of a nearly two decades-long conflict, to Ukraine itself, where Russia ceased aggressive maneuvers in the region while he was in office—there is reason to take his claim as something more than bombast . . .

. . . For his part, DeSantis offered his best Trump impersonation on foreign policy. The Florida governor’s insistence that the United States should not become “further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia” at least seemed to incite the ire of David Frum, Bill Kristol, and Jonah Goldberg. At any rate, DeSantis’ supporters have pointed to these reactions as proof that their favored candidate has fully adopted MAGA noninterventionism, a claim ardently contested by Trump supporters who argue the Florida governor’s unexceptional record, which pretty much toed the establishment line on foreign policy, as well as the questionable personal ties some of DeSantis’ closest acolytes have to Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

Given that nothing in DeSantis’ background, prior to becoming governor, screams populist or nationalist bonafides on foreign policy, it is important to read DeSantis’ statement carefully. Criticisms from neoconservative pundits aside, many of those mobilizing behind DeSantis’ presidential campaign, including Paul Ryan, Karl Rove, the Murdoch family, and Jeb Bush, might be called neoconservatives or neocon-adjacent. With that consideration in mind, DeSantis’ statements seem far less radical. For instance, his argument that the United Should not become “further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia” could well be read to mean that the current situation, in which well over $100 billion of U.S. taxpayer dollars has already been expended, is acceptable under a would-be DeSantis doctrine. Not too long ago, Biden himself said he would be interested in meeting with Putin to find “a way to end the war”—suggesting an approach not unlike that advocated by DeSantis. 

. . . Finally, the telltale sign that DeSantis may not be serious about spearheading a fundamental shift from the uniparty consensus was his usage of the term “blank check.” The phrase, used in the context of critiquing the Biden Administration’s wasteful management of the conflict to date (“The Biden administration’s virtual ‘blank check,’ funding of this conflict for ‘as long as it takes’ . . .  distracts from our country’s most pressing challenges"), has repeatedly been offered by other leading Republican establishment figures . . . In sharp contrast, the “blank check” language is totally absent from Trump’s statement, or from any public statement the 45th president has issued so far about the Ukrainian conflict. Instead, what we see are statements written in his recognizable cadence. Unlike DeSantis’ somewhat ambiguous language, Trump’s statements exhibit his trademark authenticity, and are to the point: totally unequivocal about where he stands on the conflict. That level of precision is ultimately missing from any other candidates’ statement—including the Florida governor’s. 

Though it is undeniably good that DeSantis finds it necessary to pay lip service to noninterventionist strategies in order to win over the base, there is still cause to question whether his allegiances are truly aligned with the MAGA base or with the war lobby that remains hellbent trying to involve us deeper in yet another winless war in Eastern Europe.

This essay seems to have been written before DeSantis sat down with Pierced Organ (a.k.a. Piers Morgan). So this, coupled with the flip-flop on "territorial dispute" and Putin as a "war criminal" should give Team Ron boosters something to think about. Citing Trump's negatives – and believe me, he has them in spades – does not erase, excuse nor eliminate the ones that DeSantis has. Trump is of course a known quantity. DeSantis is gradually becoming one, and his strongest positives are in his record of resisting the Chinese COVID lockdowns and maskings, beating back the transexual perverts and critical race hustlers, as well as creating an environment that has attracted fleeing blue staters to breathe freely in Florida by the thousands.

But in the run-up to his officially announcing his candidacy, some of these negatives about who his backers are are coming to the fore. Worse, the triangulation/ equivocation/ diffidence/ mixed-messaging – hell, let's be honest here, flip-flopping – on his characterization of Ukraine is troubling to say the least.

Yes, Trump has his baggage and his negatives. But that does not mean that DeSantis doesn't have any. Is this gaffe a one-off? We shall see.

Known knowns vs unknown knowns, or whatever the hell Rummy called it.

Meanwhile, while we're all flinging poo at each other over this, the institutionalized cheating that fucked us all over in 2020 across six crucial states has yet to be dismantled.

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1 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 07:41 AM (BRHaw)

2 First gray?

Posted by: NALNAMSAM- not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at March 23, 2023 07:41 AM (yTTE5)

3 Chainsaws JJ!

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 23, 2023 07:41 AM (MkuC5)

4 They grays have taken over.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2023 07:42 AM (Wnv9h)

5 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2023 07:42 AM (Wnv9h)

6 Nope... boxed in as 1st loser.. LOL.

*stomps off*

Posted by: NALNAMSAM- not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at March 23, 2023 07:42 AM (yTTE5)

7 Willowed:

Okay, this is just neat-o!

74K Solar Tornado Meanders Across Surface of the Sun

https://nypost.com/2023/03/20/hellish-solar-tornado-

erupts-on-sun-never-seen-anything-like-it/


With (a short) video!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at March 23, 2023 07:42 AM (L1tQx)

8
uh, I

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at March 23, 2023 07:42 AM (vwCZJ)

9 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2023 07:43 AM (Wnv9h)

10 All you Morons!

Into the gray box cars!!

Posted by: Dem Police at March 23, 2023 07:43 AM (Vwz3I)

11 morning horde

at least it's almost friday

off to the covfefe & content

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 23, 2023 07:44 AM (nXhwP)

12 Ruining a formatting joke early is a solitary-confinement offense, Sefton!

Posted by: Dem Police at March 23, 2023 07:45 AM (Vwz3I)

13 Then there’s what is apparently a suspicious variation in turnout rates between otherwise very similar cities: for example, 84 percent in Milwaukee, but only 51 percent in Cincinnati.

There were many 94% turnout precincts in 2020. Unpossible.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 07:46 AM (BRHaw)

14 Officials say rapper Tekashi 6ix9ine was assaulted by several people at a gym in FL.

I don't care -- I just wanted to type his name. Although if he is Asian and was attacked by blacks, maybe it is worth noting?

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 07:48 AM (Vwz3I)

15 7 Posted by: naturalfake at March 23, 2023 07:42 AM (L1tQx)


You mean the Coronal Mass Event that had it not been on the far side of the sun would have wiped out humanity a few weeks ago?

Neato indeed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 07:48 AM (x0n13)

16 DeSantis did not flip flop at all. In fact, in that same interview, he *reiterated* that we should not send any more money to the Ukraine, which is the only important thing that he said the first time around. Adding some "Putin bad" fluff (which isn't wrong) doesn't negate or constitute a flip flop of "stop sending money", particularly when he repeated it.

Posted by: Qwinn at March 23, 2023 07:49 AM (xu9tO)

17 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 23, 2023 07:49 AM (T4tVD)

18 Happy Thursday, everyone! Now to read the content.

Posted by: NR Pax at March 23, 2023 07:49 AM (4olE8)

19 Good morning horde!

Today is my 27th wedding anniversary. In case you're reading the comments, Happy Anniversary, Babe!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 07:50 AM (1Z8zZ)

20 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 07:50 AM (fxiNq)

21 In no fewer than 353 counties in 29 states, there turned out to be more registered voters than voting-age citizens.

Do a new search for 7% removed from voter rolls. That was the magic number as about 7% fake voters were added in Sept Oct 2020 and then removed in March or April 2021.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 07:50 AM (BRHaw)

22 and i should have skipped the content...

sad to hear that DeSantis might, and i stay with might, have been malleable. i'm still withholding until more information is available, but it's not looking good.

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 23, 2023 07:51 AM (nXhwP)

23 Ruining a formatting joke early is a solitary-confinement offense, Sefton!
Posted by: Dem Police at March 23, 2023 07:45 AM


That's a night in the gray box.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2023 07:51 AM (Wnv9h)

24 Seriously, what do you expect from a guy marinated in the Harvard/Yale/MIC MIliue?

Throw in the fact he was already a pointless and useless congressman for 6 years.

He's proven himself to be a good governor in a state with legislator that is conservative.

There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24, NONE.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 23, 2023 07:51 AM (b1wF1)

25 With now Emperor Shapiro and Marxists running Pa bet the house the Democrat Totalitarian to win 2024.

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 07:52 AM (fxiNq)

26 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 07:50 AM

Happy anniversary!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2023 07:52 AM (Wnv9h)

27 16 Posted by: Qwinn at March 23, 2023 07:49 AM (xu9tO)

The names of some of his supporters should ring a few bells. Is that fake news?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 07:52 AM (x0n13)

28 Well I'll be doggoned. Would you look at that? Gosh, what are the odds that it would be tied to push to crash the banks?

CNBC:

"Long-awaited Fed digital payment system to launch in July

Published Wed, Mar 15 2023"


https://tinyurl.com/2porz3hg

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 07:53 AM (k1L5r)

29 14 Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 07:48 AM (Vwz3I)

Tekashi 6ix9ine > George Takei.

As a kid I pronounced it "Tacky Eye." Still do.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 07:54 AM (x0n13)

30 Today is my 27th wedding anniversary.

Congratulations! May you have many many more!

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 23, 2023 07:54 AM (wagHN)

31 "Today is my 27th wedding anniversary. In case you're reading the comments, Happy Anniversary, Babe!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic"

Mrs fd? Is that you?

Posted by: fd at March 23, 2023 07:55 AM (iayUP)

32 So a politician who flip flopped. Who woulda thunk?

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 23, 2023 07:55 AM (wagHN)

33 Paul Ryan and Karl Rove must have sold DeSantis a real line of BS.

Posted by: Flatville Bill at March 23, 2023 07:55 AM (uMGpS)

34 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 07:50 AM

Happy anniversary!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at March 23, 2023 07:56 AM (T4tVD)

35 Thanks JJ !

Posted by: JT at March 23, 2023 07:56 AM (T4tVD)

36 Engaging in war does not make one a war criminal.

In fact, there is no such thing and should never be such a thing as a war criminal.

That only civilizes war and makes men inevitably far too fond of it. War, by its very nature, is the destruction and abandonment of civilization and all its rules.

See also our perpetual war machine that hasn't rested since 1945, putting men into battle continually since then, infatuated with finding ever more conflicts to join.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 23, 2023 07:57 AM (/LGx4)

37 "Uganda Passes Anti-Homosexuality Bill". Protecting The Sanctity Of The Family From Mentally Ill Sodomites. Good For Them.

Never Give Up Your Guns!

Rootin For Putin!

Abolish The Deep State!

Free Buffalo Guy!

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2023 07:57 AM (OgB1i)

38 Voting is mandatory in Australia with a fine for levied for not voting and they have about 97% turnouts as I recall.

Up until about 20 years ago, Canadian news media used to crow about us having 75-80% voter turnout while the lazy anti-democracy Americans only had 65% voter turnout. [They've shut up since our turnouts have dropped into the 60s now too -- probably for the same reasons yours have dropped since 1965 if you get my drift.]

Sweden in 2022 was 84%.

No 103% voter turnouts, I note, anywhere no matter how small and homogenous the country.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 07:58 AM (Vwz3I)

39 The main case for RD—Trumpism without the blunt sometimes cruel language—echoes Bush 41’s promise of a kinder gentler conservatism after Reagan. It is right there on p1 of the GOPE playbook. Couple that with his support from Paul Ryan and Faux Nooz, “Heavy D” is a pass for me.

Posted by: Ex-GOP at March 23, 2023 07:59 AM (41IOV)

40 Any politician or pundit that uses the phrase 'war criminal' should be forced to define it. It's a phrase we like to throw around a little too freely to associate everything with the Holocaust, the Holodomor, Khmer Rouge, etc.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 07:59 AM (76Foq)

41 I suspect the wife and I are going to be unwilling participants in the Fed digital currency op as every single dime we receive comes straight from the Federal government.


We get our Navy pensions and Social Security from them. I doubt they will let people op out of the program forever.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2023 07:59 AM (ncXxy)

42 Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 07:59 AM (t0OGg)

43 “Ukrainian President VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY ‘didn’t want to appeal to the hearts of Americans, in other words, but to their heads,'” Cornyn tweeted with a link to The Atlantic piece he quoted. “[T]his was his answer: Help us fight them here, help us defeat them here, and you won’t have to fight them anywhere else.”

Todays FOAD list is very short: Cornyn

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 07:59 AM (BRHaw)

44 Happy anniversary!
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Everyone 29 and older sing the Flintstones 'happy anniversary' song in your honours!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 08:01 AM (Vwz3I)

45 The other fact of the matter is the base of the Republican Party in the main does not support our sending money to Ukraine, does not support sending troops to Ukraine, and a majority of Americans fear a potential nuclear war over Ukraine.
++++
Heh. Since when does the base matter?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:01 AM (t0OGg)

46 The names of some of his supporters should ring a few bells.
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Pavlov??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 08:02 AM (Vwz3I)

47 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 07:50 AM

Happy anniversary!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2023 07:52 AM (Wnv9h)
********
Ditto!

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:03 AM (NpAcC)

48 Today is National Puppy Day! 🐶

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:04 AM (NpAcC)

49 Congratulations! May you have many many more!
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I'm sorry, Ms. Jewells, but you can only have one 27th anniversary with the same woman.

Posted by: Woody Boyd at March 23, 2023 08:04 AM (Vwz3I)

50 43 Help us fight them here, help us defeat them here, and you won’t have to fight them anywhere else.”

And here we have Zman quoting a worn out line from the Neocon playbook of the Bush 43 era. Again, hard pass

Posted by: Ex-GOP at March 23, 2023 08:04 AM (41IOV)

51
they-uh, uh-tell me that-uh, I'm married. I'm not-uh sure though

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at March 23, 2023 08:05 AM (vwCZJ)

52 45 The other fact of the matter is the base of the Republican Party in the main does not support our sending money to Ukraine, does not support sending troops to Ukraine, and a majority of Americans fear a potential nuclear war over Ukraine.
++++
Heh. Since when does the base matter?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:01 AM (t0OGg)

Well, the gravamen of my discourse is that it does matter to Trump and it should matter to DeSantis,

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 08:05 AM (x0n13)

53 Retaining his transactional view of diplomacy, Trump spoke like a dealmaker by asserting that it is Europe’s responsibility to pay “far more than [the United States].”
++++
Bilateral transactions for the win. The greatest American conceit since the end of WWII - and the cause of most of our foreign policy failure during that period - is the lust for multilateralism. We can't make a deal with Jordan or Saudi Arabia, we have to make a deal with the whole Middle East. We can't make a deal with Japan or Korea, we have to make a deal with the whole of the Asia Pacific. We can't make a deal with India, we have to make a deal with all of South Asian and Australia.

I get it. A lot of people blame the complex web of treaties and guarantees between two parties for triggering WWI. But the problem wasn't bilateralism, the problem there was secrecy. Make your deals in public and all is well. If you make a good deal, others can join up if desired. This is exactly how the Abraham Accords worked. This is how the refactoring of Asian trade agreements worked. The USMCA was the only major multilateral deal I can think of, and it replaced another multilateral deal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:05 AM (t0OGg)

54 Gentlemen, I despise each and every one of you.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 08:06 AM (yQpMk)

55 Another look at Glenn Youngkin? Except he's a Carlyle veteran, and no firm on earth is more deep state than Carlyle.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 08:06 AM (RFpWh)

56 50 43 Help us fight them here, help us defeat them here, and you won’t have to fight them anywhere else.”

And here we have Zman quoting a worn out line from the Neocon playbook of the Bush 43 era. Again, hard pass
Posted by: Ex-GOP at March 23, 2023 08:04 AM (41IOV)


"Pfft!"

- - FDR pre- 12/7/41

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 08:06 AM (x0n13)

57 I believe Glenn Greenwald explains the US/Ukraine situation best:

https://rumble.com/v2e6992-system-update-60.html

Posted by: ahem at March 23, 2023 08:06 AM (KVLyi)

58 It's also...
National Tamale Day! 🫔

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:07 AM (NpAcC)

59 "The Office of Reparations would oversee distribution of a proposed $5 million to every black person in city."
San Francisco Lawmakers Move to Establish $50 Million Reparations Bureaucracy

--

They really are going to try and do this, aren't they? They really are. Because they can't help themselves, and where the money comes from really doesn't matter. The social justice insanity trumps everything else.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 23, 2023 08:07 AM (sVtYq)

60 "We can no longer trust the medical community to provide ethically and morally acceptable drugs and medical treatment."

Hell, we can't even trust them to provide safe and effective.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 08:08 AM (1Z8zZ)

61 A federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that an attorney for former President Donald Trump must testify and turn over records on Trump in the federal criminal investigation into the former president’s handling of U.S. government records after he left office.

The crime fraud rule:
that is reasonably certain to result in substantial injury to the financial or property interests of another and in furtherance of which the client has used or is using the lawyer’s services.

How does this even try to relate??

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:09 AM (BRHaw)

62 Today is National Puppy Day! 🐶
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A local network's morning news is showing "Show us your puppy" photos right now.
woof! woof!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 08:09 AM (Vwz3I)

63 Todays FOAD list is very short: Cornyn and the GOP Senate Caucus
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 07:59 AM (BRHaw)
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can I add that little bit? (Sorry to the two or three decent Republicans who get lumped in unfairly)

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 08:09 AM (RFpWh)

64 Any politician or pundit that uses the phrase 'war criminal' should be forced to define it. It's a phrase we like to throw around a little too freely to associate everything with the Holocaust, the Holodomor, Khmer Rouge, etc.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 07:59 AM (76Foq)
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It's easy to do. People die in war and sometimes a *lot* of people die in war. But defining "war criminal" is hard unless you accept a certain truth that makes a lot of people uncomfortable: it's victor's justice.

The winner, after the fact, gets to determine what was "illegal" and extract vengeance for it. There are certain things that are generally agreed upon as "crimes against humanity" - things like genocide or the indiscriminate slaughter of non-combatants in a non-total war or the forcible use of a population in medical experimentation - but these aren't necessarily "war crimes." They can be an often are, but war is not actually a prerequisite for them.

If I had to pick a target for "crimes against humanity" charges right now, I'd pick Anthony Fauci well before I picked Vladimir Putin.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:09 AM (t0OGg)

65 DeSantis's stock is plummeting fast. Call it Scott Walkering.

Posted by: Ordinary American at March 23, 2023 08:09 AM (ThaG8)

66 DeSantis' missteps of late are becoming problematic to me. They're revealing a side of him that I'm getting increasingly uncomfortable with. Sorry, ace...

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 23, 2023 08:10 AM (sVtYq)

67 Morning all.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 08:10 AM (dfZzK)

68 It's also...
National Tamale Day! 🫔
Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:07 AM (NpAcC)
++++
Now *that* is something I can get behind. Tamales kick ass.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:10 AM (t0OGg)

69 DeSantis' missteps of late are becoming problematic to me. They're revealing a side of him that I'm getting increasingly uncomfortable with. Sorry, ace...

*************

This, DeSantis was awesome

until he started talking

you know, like Trump, lolz

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:11 AM (VTu1l)

70 Yonder Horde.

Given how f'd up things are these days I can honestly imagine neither Trump nor DeSantis being on the GOP ticket in 24. The rift here between supporters is probably mirrored elsewhere, including Congress where our political class will decide who's best for us dirty, little people who dare to think we have a voice.

IMO the cost/benefit of bitching about it is zero. However the cathartic value is likely immeasurable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 23, 2023 08:12 AM (Q4IgG)

71 No 103% voter turnouts, I note, anywhere no matter how small and homogenous the country.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 07:58 AM (Vwz3I)
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The cemetaries of Union County New Jersey do at least that well, I'd wager.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 08:12 AM (RFpWh)

72 Another look at Glenn Youngkin? Except he's a Carlyle veteran, and no firm on earth is more deep state than Carlyle.

***********

Youngkin caved like the fucking RINO faggot that he is with the trannies

He's Abbott without the wheels

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:12 AM (VTu1l)

73 Yeah, I do find it problematic that Ron D doesn't seem to recognize the weaponization and political persecution of a former president and what that portends.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 23, 2023 08:13 AM (sVtYq)

74 38 Voting is mandatory in Australia with a fine for levied for not voting and they have about 97% turnouts as I recall.


errors rock

Posted by: REDACTED at March 23, 2023 08:13 AM (us2H3)

75 59 When the reparations were first being talked about in SF, I thought it was going to be just a couple of loons getting time to speak in front of a group of loons (the supervisors). LIB, you're right, they're going to do this because they are batshit crazy. And if they can't put it together, it will be just in time for the late spring peaceful rioting and looting season.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 23, 2023 08:13 AM (lz5hY)

76 Not to mention the Team Ukraine sh*t.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 23, 2023 08:13 AM (sVtYq)

77 I still say DeSantis is much more powerful in his role of governor in bringing back American principles. Stay local, folks. That is where the true power will be upon the collapse.

Posted by: Trog04 at March 23, 2023 08:14 AM (wfZwW)

78 You mean the Coronal Mass Event that had it not been on the far side of the sun would have wiped out humanity a few weeks ago?

Neato indeed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 07:48 AM (x0n13)
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I got your "climate change" right here, bucko.

Posted by: The Sun at March 23, 2023 08:14 AM (RFpWh)

79 Still waiting for a MSM news source to use the phrase "the holy season of Lent" in a report as they do for the 'holy month' of Ramadan.

[I've never seen "the prophet Joseph Smith" ever used either contrasted with another religious leader whose name escapes me at the moment.]

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 08:14 AM (Vwz3I)

80 Here we go.

"All our guys suck and are sellouts. We can only support a candidate that agrees with me 100%."

NATO membership aside, I reiterate, if Ukraine is not worth going to war with Russia over, then neither is Lithuania. Or Estonia. Or any of those other minor Eastern European countries.

We can only expect our NATO allies to act the same toward minor members of the alliance as they do to minor members of the EU. Like shit.

Does anyone actually think France and Germany will go to war over Estonia? They'll find a loophole. They'll say something like, "Estonia didn't meet the 2% GDP requirement in defense spending and therefore reneged on their membership dues so we are not obligated to help those who wouldn't help themselves."

France and Germany aren't meeting that target but can't you just hear them say it? Austria and Poland say, "yes. I can hear them saying that."

I would prefer that we never have to see the outright disintegration of NATO in the face of Russian aggression. Lets try to stop them in Ukraine, K?

Posted by: thesgm at March 23, 2023 08:15 AM (VhDvQ)

81 But my message to the White House is, this isn't going away. There are other bank records. There are other potential business quote-unquote "deals" that your family has made with China and other adversarial countries around the world.

My guess is around $20 to 30 Million is what the Bidens have gotten as bribes.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:15 AM (BRHaw)

82 "The Office of Reparations would oversee distribution of a proposed $5 million to every black person in city."
San Francisco Lawmakers Move to Establish $50 Million Reparations Bureaucracy

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They really are going to try and do this, aren't they? They really are. Because they can't help themselves, and where the money comes from really doesn't matter. The social justice insanity trumps everything else.
Posted by: Lady in Black


What's a bigger crime is there are only 10 black people in San Francisco. 50/5 = 10.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 08:15 AM (dfZzK)

83 Youngkin. Good guv. No for Prez. Is or will be Regime owned

Posted by: Ex-GOP at March 23, 2023 08:15 AM (41IOV)

84 So just asking for opinions:

I have dogs and so does my neighbor. She also pet sits so she will have her two pups plus about five more at any given time. I am ok with that. To each his own and we have large yards.

My backyard is completely fenced in and adjacent to hers.

It bothers her that the dogs bark at each other but we both step in and do not let the barking last much at all. The most unrelenting barker is one of her terriers. This little one wont stop and i know it stresses my neighbor. I think part of the reason is that she doesn't want any neighbor to complain because it would affect her pet sitting side business.

We havent had a neighbor complain ever. I have lived here over twenty years and always had dogs.

Well neighbor wants me to notify her if I am letting my dogs out and also when they are in.

Sigh. I have dogs of different ages and one with Cushings who needs to go out frequently.

I find her demands to be too much. What do you all think? Am I being uncooperative?

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 08:10 AM (/k9DC)

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 08:15 AM (/k9DC)

85 I got your "climate change" right here, bucko.
Posted by: The Sun at March 23, 2023 08:14 AM (RFpWh)
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This position is anti-the-science! The sun has nothing to do with climate change! The problem is CO2 and only CO2. Report for reeducation now or I'll sue you into oblivion.

Posted by: Michael Mann at March 23, 2023 08:16 AM (t0OGg)

86 Sigh I am not going to get too worked up about the Republican Primary or Trump vs DeSantis or anyone else just yet. Have at it, but try not to totally fracture the Republican party at the same time. In the meantime, How about My Yankees? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2023 08:16 AM (3wSnz)

87 Trump v DeSantis is a sideshow

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 23, 2023 08:16 AM (fUnHJ)

88 A local network's morning news is showing "Show us your puppy" photos right now.
woof! woof!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 08:09 AM (Vwz3I)
******
Everyone loves a puppy!

Might have been a problem if the they said, "show us your puppies."

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:16 AM (NpAcC)

89 "it's victor's justice.
The winner, after the fact, gets to determine what was "illegal" and extract vengeance for it."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:09 AM (t0OGg)

True but I am thinking more along the lines of how politicians and pundits use the phrase to manipulate the masses to justify some sort of involvement.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 08:16 AM (76Foq)

90 MOHAP!

Posted by: Oh Long Johnson at March 23, 2023 08:16 AM (yW0Mo)

91 Read Patrick Basham's "Biden's Inexplicable Victory"

Team 'Republican' just hired dirtbag Jeff Roe, Cruz campaign who lied about Ben Carson in 2016.

If you guys ever criticize(rightly and wrongly) who Trump hired you need to look who is on Team DeSantis. Wow.

Posted by: Danimal28 at March 23, 2023 08:16 AM (klw0w)

92 And for the record, Trump not firing Fauci IS NOT one of his alleged negatives. And Ron claiming he would have is nonsensical insulting bullshit. For whatever DeSantis IS, it isn't more of an outsider or more independent than Trump. Simply NOT true.

Any notion that DeSantis would get to DC and govern more independently than Trump is just a load of horseshit

Posted by: deadrody at March 23, 2023 08:17 AM (kYmXc)

93 Hilarious that Mexico's President repeated his criticism of Demofascist weaponization of the Justice system, essentially saying (again) that he's worried Mexico has an unstable banana republic to the north.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 08:17 AM (RFpWh)

94 Trump v DeSantis is a sideshow

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It is, and I've believed it is from the get-go. MI, PA, AZ and GA tell me so.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 23, 2023 08:17 AM (sVtYq)

95 I still prefer DeSantis or Trump.
They both need to win over independents if they even have a chance.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:18 AM (NpAcC)

96 I got your "climate change" right here, bucko.
Posted by: The Sun at March 23, 2023 08:14 AM (RFpWh)

"about 126 trillion horsepower is sent to earth"

About the same as the new Dodge Challenger.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:18 AM (BRHaw)

97 The "I will never vote for desantis because he is a flawed candidate" crowd is out early today.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2023 08:18 AM (ncXxy)

98 Meatball Ronnie is still learning on the job and should be ready when his 2nd term as an Imperial Governor in The Empire Of The Deep State is over.

Imperial Governor Meatball needs to talk less and do more and let the results do the talking for him.

Meanwhile it's still President Trump's time and 2024, as the utes say, is gonna be lit!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2023 08:19 AM (OgB1i)

99 It's our 27th anniversary too. I got some new springs for her car and scattered them around the yard. I told her Spring is busting out all over and go look in the yard.

Posted by: fd at March 23, 2023 08:19 AM (iayUP)

100 My guess is around $20 to 30 Million is what the Bidens have gotten as bribes.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:15 AM (BRHaw)
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Which is a lot of money - more than I'll ever have - but it's not *that* much in the grand scheme of things. One of the things I was unhappiest learning about during the Trump era was how cheap most of our politicians are to buy. I was envisioning tens of millions at a time to get shit done. It isn't. It's tens of thousands. It's nothing. The cost of a US power player is surprisingly affordable. Some like Clinton and apparently Biden are fairly expensive, but most aren't. It's really depressing. I'd like to think that selling your country down the river would demand a higher price tag, but it doesn't.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:19 AM (t0OGg)

101 SS says that local law enforcement cannot touch Trump much less cuff him

wil not be allowed

Posted by: REDACTED at March 23, 2023 08:20 AM (us2H3)

102 Any notion that DeSantis would get to DC and govern more independently than Trump is just a load of horseshit

*************

my parents think Meatball is doing a great job as guv but dont trust him otherwise

AT ALL

"never trust a boorish yalie" *sips earl grey tea*

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:20 AM (VTu1l)

103 Now *that* is something I can get behind. Tamales kick ass.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:10 AM (t0OGg)
******
Yeah, I love tamales and now I'm craving them.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:20 AM (NpAcC)

104 Posted by: naturalfake at March 23, 2023 07:42 AM (L1tQx)


You mean the Coronal Mass Event that had it not been on the far side of the sun would have wiped out humanity a few weeks ago?

Neato indeed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 07:48 AM (x0n13)


Ackshewallee...this is a different Sun related event.

And indeed neat-o and a reminder of the power of the "Big Ball of Fire in the Sky" that can throw around such wonders with barely a shrug.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 23, 2023 08:20 AM (L1tQx)

105 I find her demands to be too much. What do you all think? Am I being uncooperative?

That's ridiculous. No, you are not being uncooperative. She's being way too demanding.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 23, 2023 08:20 AM (wagHN)

106 79 The holy month of Ramadan. Up in Erie, I was rehabbing a couple houses for the owner, an Iranian guy, my landlady's SIL, to flip. Erie had taken in a bunch of Iraqis, and the owner got a few for labor a couple times. I needed some muscle at one house and told him to get a hold of Mahmoud and the guys. No can do, it was Ramadan, and these clowns slept all day for their fasting and stayed up all night for eating. Loopholes.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 23, 2023 08:20 AM (lz5hY)

107 Can I just have a 🐶 🫔 and call it a day?
Barky

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 08:20 AM (fxiNq)

108 @87

>>Trump v DeSantis is a sideshow

Yeah, it is a sideshow, primarily because that punk bitch DeSantis is sniping from the sidelines and hasn't declared his candidacy.

Why is he doing this?

Because he's a f**king typical GOP chucklehead.

Putins a war criminal?

Then the shrub and Cheney are war criminals under that definition.

F**k that guy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 23, 2023 08:21 AM (b1wF1)

109 True but I am thinking more along the lines of how politicians and pundits use the phrase to manipulate the masses to justify some sort of involvement.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 08:16 AM (76Foq)
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Right, which is why they will never define it.

"Putin is an asshole and I think he and his ruling party and country at large should be punished for this action. The only way to extract punishment is to fight him and win, because after we win and conquer Russia in retribution, we can put a rope around his neck and kill him for what he's done. Support the war against Russia so we can punish him for being a war criminal!" isn't exactly a winning message absent something truly appalling like the deliberate targeting of orphanages or deliberate poisoning of water supplies or something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:21 AM (t0OGg)

110 Well neighbor wants me to notify her if I am letting my dogs out and also when they are in.

Sigh. I have dogs of different ages and one with Cushings who needs to go out frequently.

I find her demands to be too much. What do you all think? Am I being uncooperative?


she needs to back the heck off

you should put in a pet door and just [shrugging emoji] her

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 23, 2023 08:22 AM (w0NJk)

111 had to get up for a 6AM meeting that turned out to be cancelled

I hate you all

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:22 AM (VTu1l)

112 I will never vote for Desantis, because he is not Trump.

Posted by: The I Will Never Vote For Desantis Because He Is Not Trump Crowd at March 23, 2023 08:22 AM (yW0Mo)

113 I agree that Trump v DeSantis is a sideshow. But I do find it galling when friends claim RDS can win because he’s Trump policies but also nice and a smooth, savvy operator. It’s like they didn’t notice the 2020 steal. Which of the following will RDS win: PA MI GA AZ WI NV?? The answer: none and neither will DJT. The cheat processes are still in place in those states

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 23, 2023 08:22 AM (LjeMb)

114 "Believers in humble circumstances ought to take pride in their high position. But the rich should take pride in their humiliation—since they will pass away like a wild flower. For the sun rises with scorching heat and withers the plant; its blossom falls and its beauty is destroyed. In the same way, the rich will fade away even while they go about their business."

James 1:9-11

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2023 08:23 AM (OjHyA)

115 I find her demands to be too much. What do you all think? Am I being uncooperative?


invite her to tea

Posted by: REDACTED at March 23, 2023 08:24 AM (us2H3)

116 The Jesse Kelly video at the HotAir link is powerful. He makes some great points.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 08:24 AM (p92GR)

117 “Ukrainian President VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY ‘didn’t want to appeal to the hearts of Americans, in other words, but to their heads,'” Cornyn tweeted with a link to The Atlantic piece he quoted. “[T]his was his answer: Help us fight them here, help us defeat them here, and you won’t have to fight them anywhere else.”

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hahahaha

Just like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Remember those countries? We spent trillions and we killed thousands of good men, and it turned out the plan all along was to conquer the countries in order to hand them both over to Al Qaeda, the group that wasn't strong or capable enough to conquer the countries on their own.

F*ck Ukraine, and f*ck Zelensky.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:25 AM (k1L5r)

118 I like Trump.

I also want to punish whoever put Chris Wray in charge of the FBI.

Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2023 08:25 AM (pwExq)

119

Cesarean sections require full pre-op, surgical suite, and post-operative recovery care of the mother. Please provide a list of hospitals/surgical centers which are allowing patients to undergo c-sections and handing over living babies and providing facilities for dissection while still alive, so that we may take action.

Posted by: Show Me at March 23, 2023 08:25 AM (sFkGc)

120 Well neighbor wants me to notify her if I am letting my dogs out and also when they are in.

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Tell her to look out the window.

Works for the weather, too.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:26 AM (k1L5r)

121 Unpopular opinion but I look at DeSantis's governorship and I find a lot of his policy accomplishments, kind of doing the bare minimum stuff any (R) Gov. should have done with a (R) legislature. It's more of an indictment of how pathetic most (R) Gov. are then something praiseworthy of DeSantis.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 08:26 AM (76Foq)

122 Good morning!

Ugh, just ugh indeed.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 08:26 AM (mqu1M)

123 "I don't know why I'm covering the battle between Trump and DeSantis"

There's better battles to cover. Better targets to zero in on. Better NEWS to spread around.

Posted by: sidney at March 23, 2023 08:26 AM (hGlnS)

124 I don't think I even want ron in 2028 either.

Posted by: MikeN at March 23, 2023 08:26 AM (+548g)

125 Then the shrub and Cheney are war criminals under that definition.

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Yep. I'd like to hear this question asked and answered.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:26 AM (k1L5r)

126 You know, I'm particularly tired of hearing about Dread War Criminal Putin and the war we must fight,

when none of these people, and I do mean none,

Talk about War Criminal Xi and China's border shenanigans in Nepal, India, Vietnam, and general bullying of the Phillipines, Japan, Korea, Australia, etc.

What about fighting War Criminal Xi and his expansions? Is that something we need to shed American blood and expend American treasure over?

*crickets*

All this tells me is that Putin wasn't smart enough to dole out the rubles to the Dims and GOPe like War Criminal Xi was.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 23, 2023 08:26 AM (L1tQx)

127 I think my biggest problem with those pushing Ron DeSantis is this: What polls are showing he can even get within 20% of Trump? That a 0% chance of winning.
Imagine someone pushing Nikki like they're pushing Ron--same realistic odds.
And that's fine to push a no-chance of it's to sharpen and push the winner toward more conservative positions.

But Ron isn't attacking Trump from the right-- and we have had enough fights that Trump isn't conservative. He's attacking Trump from the center, from the NeverTrump, from the Left's criticisms--too brash, too controversial, needs more moderate positions, etc.
Note this very well: Ron is most definitely not saying, "I'll build the wall, I'll cut immigration, I'll cut spending, I'll eliminate programs, I'll cut departments, I'll fire bureaucrats, I'll impeach leftist judges, I'll fire every J6 prosecutor and their bosses, I'll gut the FBI down to a broom closet."
But he is going hard on the old GOPe rope-a-dope "talk big on social issues, deliver minor changes, distract the rubes so we can pass our corporate payoffs."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 23, 2023 08:26 AM (/LGx4)

128 Daily Caller and PJ BULLSHIT ads system will not let me on their site even with ublock paused.

Fuck them!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:27 AM (BRHaw)

129 I might be persuaded to support Kristi Noem as an alternative provided she runs her entire campaign wearing a string bikini for 2 years

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:27 AM (VTu1l)

130 When are people going to realize that the ultraleft advanced more under Trump than they ever would have under Hillary. His fluke win in 2016, which killed a potential Conservative Renaissance, was the best thing that ever happened to the Commies and Fascisti who solidified their stranglehold on the levers of institutional power right under Trump's nose while his liberal base fellated him rather than holding his feet to the fire. Now this juvenile ignoramus carnival barker is going to finish the collapse by losing to a corrupt racist demented moron a second time.

Posted by: DrJoeDO at March 23, 2023 08:28 AM (kpLs5)

131 you should put in a pet door and just [shrugging emoji] her
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 23, 2023 08:22 AM (w0NJk)

put in 2 one into her house!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:28 AM (BRHaw)

132 The bus is here.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:28 AM (BRHaw)

133 132 Short bus.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 23, 2023 08:29 AM (lz5hY)

134 I would prefer that we never have to see the outright disintegration of NATO in the face of Russian aggression. Lets try to stop them in Ukraine, K?

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So you're openly admitting that Europe doesn't think it's enough of a threat to bother, but the United States should start WWIII over a pro-Russia country we overthrew back around 2014 and then put bioweapons labs in the same pro-Russia regions, and whose citizens are pro-Russia.

Yeah, let's have a war over that Russian aggression.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:29 AM (k1L5r)

135 Posted by: DrJoeDO

**************

concern status:

{ } Not Noted

{X} Noted

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:29 AM (VTu1l)

136 which killed a potential Conservative Renaissance

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hahahahaha

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:30 AM (k1L5r)

137 Which is a lot of money - more than I'll ever have - but it's not *that* much in the grand scheme of things. One of the things I was unhappiest learning about during the Trump era was how cheap most of our politicians are to buy. I was envisioning tens of millions at a time to get shit done. It isn't. It's tens of thousands. It's nothing. The cost of a US power player is surprisingly affordable. Some like Clinton and apparently Biden are fairly expensive, but most aren't. It's really depressing. I'd like to think that selling your country down the river would demand a higher price tag, but it doesn't.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:19 AM (t0OGg)
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I wonder if the price to buy a politician is so low because they find *other* ways to compensate. For example, a corporate donor chips in $20K to a pol for some favors down the line. In return, the pol gets some insider information for increasing his own investments 10 fold. So on the surface, it seems pretty cheap, but underneath are shadier transactions that show huge swings in wealth in favor of the politician.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 08:30 AM (YIVH2)

138 I find her demands to be too much. What do you all think? Am I being uncooperative?

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 08:10 AM (/k9DC)

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 08:15 AM (/k9DC)
*******
No you're not being uncooperative, but.....

Have you ever watched the show "Fear Thy Neighbor" on the ID channel?

People do unbelievable things to their neighbors because of a barking dog.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:30 AM (NpAcC)

139 Trump declared the Iraq war was misbegotten as he was jeered by the 15 establishment stiffs on the stage and the audience. He never backtracked. DeSantis utters a true statement about Ukraine, gets establishment flak, and torches Putin.

He just proved he cares more about them than us.

Posted by: Ordinary American at March 23, 2023 08:31 AM (ThaG8)

140
To quote the late Fred Ward as the late Gus Grissom, vis a vis Trump v DeSantis:

"This ain't about pussy. It's about monkey!"

We're all engaging in this delusion of electoral politics and business as usual -- me included, at least today -- when the country has been overthrown and our elections are officially rigged.

I wish Trump and DeSantis can see this. Neither is going to be allowed to win.

It is time or soon will be time for some sort of national split. This cannot go on. Either that or an all out civil war where it's either us or them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 08:31 AM (x0n13)

141 It's also easy to govern when you're not facing a panopticon.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 23, 2023 08:31 AM (b1wF1)

142 Patrick Basham's "Biden's Inexplicable Victory"
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Thanks, Dan. Just bookmarked a PDF version of it for later reading.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 08:31 AM (Vwz3I)

143 It bothers her that the dogs bark at each other but we both step in and do not let the barking last much at all. The most unrelenting barker is one of her terriers.

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Recommend she puts an anti-bark collar on her dogs. I'm not joking. If it bothers her, she can stop her dogs from barking any time she wants. And it will have the added benefit of removing the incentive for yours to bark.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:32 AM (k1L5r)

144 Everyone loves a puppy!

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:16 AM


Meh...too chewey.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at March 23, 2023 08:32 AM (Wnv9h)

145 So new concern troll campaign is in effect.

Who pays for this stuff.

Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2023 08:33 AM (pwExq)

146 130 Posted by: DrJoeDO at March 23, 2023 08:28 AM (kpLs5)


You conflate "lose to" with "be robbed a second time."

Thanks for stopping by.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 08:33 AM (x0n13)

147 "We can no longer trust the medical community to provide ethically and morally acceptable drugs and medical treatment."
Evil Medicine


this is a tough read
God help us.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 08:33 AM (uQPen)

148 Please give Cornyn a rifle and combat boots and send him to Ukraine. He can huddle in the cold wet trench with his buddy Lindsey and defend the sacred border of Ukraine. At least he would be defending a border somewhere since he doesn't give a crap about Texas' border.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 23, 2023 08:33 AM (fs1hN)

149 "I might be persuaded to support Kristi Noem as an alternative provided she runs her entire campaign wearing a string bikini for 2 years"


I don't even want to see that anymore, she's like a lot of women her age. Spends to much time in the gym and is now boney and stringy.
Not attractive.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 08:34 AM (76Foq)

150 Ugh. Just fucking ugh.

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I hear ya.

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2023 08:34 AM (IetnX)

151 DeSantis has shown his colors this last week. Anyone who doesn't see it is being willfully blind. Getting attached to a politician that is part of a party known for every member screwing us over for 50 years is ridiculously dumb.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 08:34 AM (WJpCY)

152 I wonder if the price to buy a politician is so low because they find *other* ways to compensate. For example, a corporate donor chips in $20K to a pol for some favors down the line. In return, the pol gets some insider information for increasing his own investments 10 fold. So on the surface, it seems pretty cheap, but underneath are shadier transactions that show huge swings in wealth in favor of the politician.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 08:30 AM (YIVH2)
++++
Entirely possible.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:34 AM (t0OGg)

153 We're all engaging in this delusion of electoral politics and business as usual -- me included, at least today -- when the country has been overthrown and our elections are officially rigged.

I wish Trump and DeSantis can see this. Neither is going to be allowed to win.

It is time or soon will be time for some sort of national split. This cannot go on. Either that or an all out civil war where it's either us or them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton



Succinct, and true.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 23, 2023 08:34 AM (lTGtQ)

154 So new concern troll campaign is in effect.

Who pays for this stuff.
Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2023 08:33 AM


*shifty eyes*

Posted by: G. Soros at March 23, 2023 08:34 AM (Wnv9h)

155 >>There's better battles to cover. Better targets to zero in on. Better NEWS to spread around.

This.
Especially when this one feels so. . .whipped up by people who wants Trumps and DeSantis (and their respective supporters) to destroy each other?

Banks are failing, Biden and the UK seem hellbent on getting us into WWIII, we are being invaded by cartels and foreigners with ill intentions (China), fentanyl is killing record numbers, J6 narrative is being exposed, and more -- and what we're supposed to get all emotionally involved in Trump v DeSantis, two of the very few on our side who have the will to fight the ones who are causing all the chaos?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 08:35 AM (mqu1M)

156 They don't need to steal the election in 2024, do they, J.J.?

Didn't DaveinFla show us the math a while back, that proves we have no possible path to 270 electoral votes?

Seemed pretty clear to me that we're all just deciding who gets to lose in 2024. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dave's case was pretty convincing.

Disclaimer: I'm not a numbers man. I cut vines and palmettos for a living.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 23, 2023 08:35 AM (iKBwy)

157 I find her demands to be too much. What do you all think? Am I being uncooperative?

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 08:10 AM (/k9DC)

Well, you both do not really want dogs barking all day, regardless of which side of the fence. The other ppl in the neighborhood might call in a noise complaint.
Is it possible for you to claim a regular "play time"where your dogs will be in the yard for an extended period, along with the provision that they may also be outside any time for potty breaks?
You should get first dibs since she's presumably always at home., and should be more flexible.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 23, 2023 08:36 AM (fUnHJ)

158 "We can no longer trust the medical community to provide ethically and morally acceptable drugs and medical treatment."

--

The worst thing about COVID was the realization that there will never be a cure for cancer.

And there probably has been major breakthroughs if not outright cures discovered already. But we saw it with our own eyes. Money, not health, is the driver. And they want people to suffer and die.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:36 AM (k1L5r)

159 His fluke win in 2016, which killed a potential Conservative Renaissance
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The fuck?

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 08:36 AM (WJpCY)

160 Stocks Slide After Federal Reserve Hikes Target Interest Rate, Balances Fighting Inflation And Protecting Banks

I guess it would be to easy to open up energy production, suspend all EPA rules since 2020, and cut spending to 2019 level.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:36 AM (BRHaw)

161 My prediction is that the final scales will come off of peoples' eyes when the vote totals in 2024 exceed the total population in certain areas of the country, and we are expected to accept the results.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 23, 2023 08:37 AM (lTGtQ)

162 The establishment doesn’t want Trump to be the he nominee because they know he’ll raise hell when they steal it from him again. They want DeSantis because he’ll go along with it when they steal it from him.

Posted by: Flatville Bill at March 23, 2023 08:37 AM (uMGpS)

163 156 Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 23, 2023 08:35 AM (iKBwy)


IIRC and CBD confirmed this is that there is a path but it involves winning extremely difficult races where you know the fix is either firmly in or all but.

GA and WI are in that mix for sure.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 08:37 AM (x0n13)

164 Surprise Grand Jury Witness May Have Destroyed the Whole Case Against Trump

Even though, 100 percent they want to "get Trump", they are already doing damage by creating this circus and have it long lasting in the media. The media chumps have no problem doing their bidding either.

Like Tucker just said, the new super power alliances are happening all over the world and here we are talking about woke crap and Trump.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 08:37 AM (uQPen)

165 107 Can I just have a 🐶 🫔 and call it a day?
Barky


Lol

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 08:37 AM (/k9DC)

166 Seemed pretty clear to me that we're all just deciding who gets to lose in 2024. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dave's case was pretty convincing.

***

Yes

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 23, 2023 08:37 AM (fUnHJ)

167 "It's also easy to govern when you're not facing a panopticon."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 23, 2023 08:31 AM (b1wF1)

Not going to lie, I had to look up panopticon. Still don't see what you're getting at.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 08:38 AM (76Foq)

168 Conservative Renaissance
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The fuck?

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What, you hadnt noticed the monumental achievements and golden age conservatives experienced during the obama years?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:38 AM (VTu1l)

169 155 Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 08:35 AM (mqu1M)

Lizzy, my dear. Trump and DeSantis are already doing a helluva job destroying each other. And Ron hasn't even announced yet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 08:38 AM (x0n13)

170 Re: Joe Mannix: perhaps my greatest disillusionment was finding out that John Bolton sold out to the Iranians for only $10k.

That's punk money.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 08:38 AM (r46W7)

171 would prefer that we never have to see the outright disintegration of NATO in the face of Russian aggression. Lets try to stop them in Ukraine, K?
Posted by: thesgm at


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Who is this we , new nic? YOU?? Go right ahead. Fight those Soviets!!

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2023 08:38 AM (IetnX)

172 Mornin, All. Happy Friday Eve!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 23, 2023 08:38 AM (XR5XV)

173 I think it is idiotic for Trump to be attacking DeSantis. I like Trump, he did surprisingly well as President despite the Dems and the media (but I repeat myself) doing all they could to overthrow his Administration.
Trump should be attacking Biden and the Deep State, not a Governor who has done a damn good job in Florida and who hasn't even tossed his hat in the ring.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at March 23, 2023 08:39 AM (4q/mG)

174 You conflate "lose to" with "be robbed a second time."

Thanks for stopping by.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 08:33 AM (x0n13)
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The conclusion is wrong, but the finding isn't entirely wrong. Trump did trigger a crisis within the government and did force them to consolidate power and go to war against the public out in the open. This is commented on a lot. It was a "great unmasking" as it is often described.

What I find preposterous is not that evidence, but the conclusion that this somehow stifled a "conservative renaissance" that was just waiting to kick off, and that it wouldn't have happened under Hillary. It would not have happened out in the open under Hillary and it might have taken longer since they would have been interested in maintaining fictions that they were not interested in maintaining in the war against Trump, but the massive consolidation of power and tyranny would have happened regardless - albeit with less public clarity. We'd be worse off, not better, today had she won. Trump didn't stifle a conservative movement, he unleashed one. And the state reacted to it by destroying the remnants of this country and doing so out in the light of day.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:39 AM (t0OGg)

175 Fkng neocons with their never ending enemies..

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2023 08:39 AM (IetnX)

176 >>My prediction is that the final scales will come off of peoples' eyes when the vote totals in 2024 exceed the total population in certain areas of the country, and we are expected to accept the results.


Didn't that happen in PA in 2020 -- they had 1 million or so more votes than residents of voting age?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 08:39 AM (mqu1M)

177 would prefer that we never have to see the outright disintegration of NATO

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NATO is a cum dumpster fire of money laundering and sex trafficking

get off my lawn

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:39 AM (VTu1l)

178 Chili today 📉 and hot tamale 📈

Posted by: Mexico City Weather Office at March 23, 2023 08:39 AM (Vwz3I)

179 Thanks, J.J.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 23, 2023 08:40 AM (iKBwy)

180 Didn't DaveinFla show us the math a while back, that proves we have no possible path to 270 electoral votes?

Seemed pretty clear to me that we're all just deciding who gets to lose in 2024. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dave's case was pretty convincing.

Disclaimer: I'm not a numbers man. I cut vines and palmettos for a living.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 23, 2023 08:35 AM (iKBwy)
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Dave's point if I understand it correctly is that there's no path to 270 with the systematized fraud in key states that he depends on. The problems are the fraud machines specifically in AZ, PA, GA and possibly MI and WI. There's no "path to 270" without those states, and those states cannot be won because there are no fair elections in them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (t0OGg)

181 "Seemed pretty clear to me that we're all just deciding who gets to lose in 2024. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dave's case was pretty convincing."

I think it could have been possible if they, the RNC, would have dumped Ronna as their chairman. The RNC already showed us they're not interested in fixing anything.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (76Foq)

182 His fluke win in 2016, which killed a potential Conservative Renaissance

--

I just realized that we might have a confirmed sighting of a Jeb supporter.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (k1L5r)

183 Trump should be attacking Biden and the Deep State, not a Governor who has done a damn good job in Florida and who hasn't even tossed his hat in the ring

***********************

I'm starting to notice Trump seems to attack at the wrong times and based on inside knowledge that he thinks is commonly known among us but isn't.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (VTu1l)

184 >155 Well said Lizzy. Now I'm gong to eat my tamales.

Posted by: sidney at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (hGlnS)

185

There is no one cure for cancer because there is no one cancer. "Cancer " is a trash can term for a group of processes which are different for different organs being involved.

Many cancers are entirely curable already especially if detected early. Many are not and may never be. Because of the process involved in cellular hyperproliferation and destruction.

Also, that cat on the moon cast no shadow, proving it was faked!

Posted by: Show Me at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (BUtu8)

186 What I find preposterous is not that evidence, but the conclusion that this somehow stifled a "conservative renaissance" that was just waiting to kick off, and that it wouldn't have happened under Hillary. It would not have happened out in the open under Hillary and it might have taken longer since they would have been interested in maintaining fictions that they were not interested in maintaining in the war against Trump, but the massive consolidation of power and tyranny would have happened regardless - albeit with less public clarity. We'd be worse off, not better, today had she won. Trump didn't stifle a conservative movement, he unleashed one. And the state reacted to it by destroying the remnants of this country and doing so out in the light of day.

Posted by: Joe Mannix



I agree, and it is important to remember that Trump won the 2016 election by a few hundred thousand votes, and also 'lost' 2020 by a similar number. The country did not radically change, only the policies of the 'winner'.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (lTGtQ)

187 138.

I haven't seen that show but I am aware people can be crazy. Main reason I am very conscientious about stopping any barking right away and my dogs are always closely supervised. There is no noise nuisance here. I think it is more of a control thing.

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 08:43 AM (/k9DC)

188 in the Am Thinker piece

Schwab is counting on big corporations to act as de facto governments, enforcing the WEF's agenda through their terms of service. We have already seen how Big Tech companies have been able to censor opposing viewpoints.

this is so glaringly obvious now, but most of the public probably will not see it until it is way too late

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 08:43 AM (uQPen)

189 What, you hadnt noticed the monumental achievements and golden age conservatives experienced during the obama years?
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:38 AM


Our fundraising was certainly golden, chumps.

Posted by: Mitch McTurtle at March 23, 2023 08:43 AM (Wnv9h)

190 In other words, simplifying the tax code would gouge a huge hole in the middle class, with somewhere around 300,000 jobs made obsolete overnight, and set off a terrible general national economic crisis. Financial worker associations lobby, um, vigorously against any changes, and when politicians think through the consequences, they begin to go pale. It is understandable — to an extent — to be worried about voting for something that would put so many lawyers out of business.

They produce no goods. They build no homes. The run no factories. They cook no food.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:43 AM (BRHaw)

191 And these clowns slept all day for their fasting and stayed up all night for eating. Loopholes.
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Yeah, rich guys fly to different time zones to eat in nonapproved hours and the like too.

Even for the ones that honestly keep their fast, pigging out after sundown to the end the daily fast doesn't seem like much of a fast.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 08:43 AM (Vwz3I)

192 Was this already mentioned here? This is incredible

julie_kelly2
Holy sh*t this is beyond dirty.

DC US Attorney Matthew Graves' office notified defense team TODAY that a defense witnesses has been an FBI informant since the BEGINNING of the case thru start of trial.

"The CHS participated in prayer meetings with...the defendants' families."

Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 08:43 AM (mqu1M)

193 Price of a Politico....

When *biden was a mere Senator he claimed to be the "poorest member" of that chamber. His tax returns during that time claimed a net worth of something like $50 or $60K IIRC. His net worth climbed, but not drastically until he was Obama's VP. It then suddenly jumped into the 100's of thousands and in 2016 it was around $396K.

Reasonable enough.

However upon leaving public service in 2016 and no longer required to make public his returns it is rumored to have jumped into the 10's of millions of dollars. In 2019 his return claimed a net worth of $917K

Yet... in 2017 and 2018 the *biden's returns showed multi-million dollar incomes.

Any normal person would likely have been audited.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 23, 2023 08:43 AM (Q4IgG)

194 Floridachick. Her dog has the barking issue, why should you have to change your life because of it? Kind of like, wear the mask to make others feel better about Covid.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 23, 2023 08:44 AM (2NHgQ)

195 Thanks, too, Joe Mannix.

I forgot that Dave factored the fraud states into the math.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 23, 2023 08:45 AM (iKBwy)

196 180 Dave's point if I understand it correctly is that there's no path to 270 with the systematized fraud in key states that he depends on. The problems are the fraud machines specifically in AZ, PA, GA and possibly MI and WI. There's no "path to 270" without those states, and those states cannot be won because there are no fair elections in them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (t0OGg)

=========

I'm pretty sure I said it before him, but whatevs.

Dave is good people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 08:45 AM (LvTSG)

197 sad part is, JJ, how many disclaimers, waivers, and general warding-off of interpretation (mis or otherwise) you felt were needed in your remarks up top.

I suggest a 1-week trial bannination for anyone who tries to start any kind of Trump vs. DeSantis logomachy, just to try to get this Ship of Morons back on an even keel until primary season actually begins.
/s

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2023 08:46 AM (QNv15)

198 New Video Shows ‘Socio-Emotional Learning’ Fanatics Confirming This Popular School Tool is a Leftist Trojan Horse
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Local Catholic (Jesuit really) grade school in liberal area started using this SEL b/s. The lib parents are shocked and dismayed. Even being a good liberal isn't enough, your kids will be turned against you, though I doubt they recognize the danger since it's not coming from the bad orangeman. Stupidity or malice (or both) is behind the Jesuits' decision to bring this (anti-catholic) religious ideology into the school.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 23, 2023 08:46 AM (fs1hN)

199 #191 Ironically enough, right now the local "Puppy Day" station news is showing a segment on all of the tasty treats Moslems will be chowing down on after sunset tonight.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 08:47 AM (Vwz3I)

200 Many cancers are entirely curable already especially if detected early. Many are not and may never be. Because of the process involved in cellular hyperproliferation and destruction.

Also, that cat on the moon cast no shadow, proving it was faked!
Posted by: Show Me at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (BUtu

Look a prostate cancer. There is no statistical difference in treated vs untreated in life span. Maybe 1 out 50 have an aggressive form and need radical surgery.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:48 AM (BRHaw)

201 Trolling aside, it's amazing how many people who believe themselves clever have bought into the distractions. That includes so-called members of the "conservative" media. The first diversion was potentially indicting Trump. Most people, almost obsequiously and in a servile fashion took the entire Biden corruption off the front page- which is the real intention of that action. The second diversion is with Trump-DeSantis. It is also another attempt to divide and conquer. One might believe that otherwise intelligent people would have figured this out by now. Especially given the entire objective of the Democrats is to divide and conquer. They know divided we are much weaker and easily ruled. Yet, here we are falling for the same trick in different packaging.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2023 08:48 AM (OjHyA)

202 Many cancers are entirely curable already especially if detected early. Many are not and may never be. Because of the process involved in cellular hyperproliferation and destruction.

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None of which changes my comment regarding the medical industry.

We watched COVID non-treatment intentionally kill people and threaten medical licenses. Ventilators, withholding treatment, isolation, etc. Can't do anything because there's no vaccine, and nothing else is FDA approved as treatment. Oh look, a vaccine! Now you can't do anything else because anything else is not treatment.

It opened a lot of eyes to the hypocritic oath.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:48 AM (k1L5r)

203 198 Local Catholic (Jesuit really) grade school in liberal area started using this SEL b/s. The lib parents are shocked and dismayed. Even being a good liberal isn't enough, your kids will be turned against you, though I doubt they recognize the danger since it's not coming from the bad orangeman. Stupidity or malice (or both) is behind the Jesuits' decision to bring this (anti-catholic) religious ideology into the school.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 23, 2023 08:46 AM (fs1hN)

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The papacy really should have banned the Jesuits like they did the Knights Templar.

The Knights Templar did less damage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 08:48 AM (LvTSG)

204 Frankly, I don't know why I'm covering the battle between Trump and DeSantis since –

--"it's rather unseemly for manly conservative men to be obsessing over a political bitchfight between two other alleged anti-Leftists" --

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2023 08:48 AM (6fvRe)

205 This is the scariest video I saw all day yesterday.

Twitter link, @Big Fish

https://is.gd/kIMFdE

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 23, 2023 08:49 AM (iKBwy)

206 FINALLY the Catholic Bishops lead the way wrt children body mutilations!

It's a Lenten Miracle!

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2023 08:49 AM (6fvRe)

207 My memory ain't worth a shit but I thought Dave in Fla was pretty spot on last Nov. Learned from 2020 and didn't get swept up in the pre-election hype and optimism.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 08:49 AM (76Foq)

208 Trump should be attacking Biden and the Deep State, not a Governor who has done a damn good job in Florida and who hasn't even tossed his hat in the ring

***********************

I'm starting to notice Trump seems to attack at the wrong times and based on inside knowledge that he thinks is commonly known among us but isn't.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:42 AM (VTu1l)
******
I am bothered that Trump called DeSantis an "average governor" and would like to know who he considers to be an excellent governor?
Kemp?

What's funny is that Trump was mad at Kemp because he felt Kemp opened up his state too early.

Wish Trump wouldn't go down this path and just stick to his great policies.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 08:49 AM (NpAcC)

209 All weekend, the MSM outlets shrieked that Trump would be indicted on Tuesday. Clearly that's what Bragg's handlers were telling them. When it didn't happen then, and didn't happen yesterday, and won't happen today, it's obvious that higher ups have said "you can't embarrass us thus badly, back down."

And the "mystery witness" was Cohens ex-lawyer, who Bragg had tried to keep quiet, who insisted on coming before the Grand Jury. He told them, in essence "If you send this case to trial, this is the testimony I will give and it will blow this entire idiotic case out of the water."

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 08:49 AM (r46W7)

210 Oh look, Karl Rove has a new nic
DrJoeDO at March 23, 2023 08:28 AM (kpLs5)

Posted by: Ex-GOP at March 23, 2023 08:50 AM (YTBIQ)

211 Looking into moving to Uganda. Wonder if I'll fit in.

Posted by: Lars Larssen at March 23, 2023 08:50 AM (aFgj+)

212 207 My memory ain't worth a shit but I thought Dave in Fla was pretty spot on last Nov. Learned from 2020 and didn't get swept up in the pre-election hype and optimism.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 08:49 AM (76Foq)

======

He still got caught up in 2022. He said more than once things like, "AZ is done. This race is done. Lake is the next governor."

That broke him, it seems. Full on black pill after that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 08:50 AM (LvTSG)

213 I suggest a 1-week trial bannination for anyone who tries to start any kind of Trump vs. DeSantis logomachy, just to try to get this Ship of Morons back on an even keel until primary season actually begins.
/s
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Ahoy!

😋

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 23, 2023 08:50 AM (iKBwy)

214 "Many cancers are entirely curable already..."

But enough about the Biden family.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (r46W7)

215 There have been well over 200 terror attacks in and around Israel in which a U.S. citizen has been killed or injured. The Republican Study Group actually used to keep a running list of such attacks during the Second Intifada. The FBI is legally required to open a file for any American injured or killed in an overseas terror incident. And they do open such files. How many terrorists have been indicted? I know of one. How many have been extradited? Zero?

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (BRHaw)

216 That coronal mass ejection article was scary.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (v4kIh)

217 National Puppy Day! Going out to wok dog.

Posted by: Gaylord Soetoro at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (aFgj+)

218 which killed a potential Conservative Renaissance
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Led by Pierre Omidar! [sp??]

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (Vwz3I)

219 I don't see a path to 270 but I'm voting in 2024 and hoping for a miracle, because God's in the miracle business.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (k1L5r)

220 Moderna Plans to Hike Its Chinese COVID Vax to $130 Per Jab

money laundering at the core

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (uQPen)

221 she needs to back the heck off
you should put in a pet door and just [shrugging emoji] her
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 23, 2023 08:22 AM (w0NJk)

Concur.

Your neighbor sounds like a democrat.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2023 08:53 AM (OgB1i)

222 Happy birthday Pierre-Simon Laplace!

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Vigor at March 23, 2023 08:53 AM (MvF+J)

223 I propose a public scorning for anyone who uses the word "logomachy" in a sentence.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 08:53 AM (r46W7)

224 "just to try to get this Ship of Morons back on an even keel until primary season actually begins."

It already began.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 08:54 AM (76Foq)

225 >>FINALLY the Catholic Bishops lead the way wrt children body mutilations!


A palate cleanser - UK Anglican (and based actor Laurence Fox) who is fighting all this: https://tinyurl.com/2hdtv82y
"We are here because we love you. You are here because you hate us."

Also this: https://tinyurl.com/yck3sz76

Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 08:54 AM (mqu1M)

226 National Puppy Day! Going out to wok dog.
Posted by: Gaylord Soetoro


General Tso's Puppy.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 08:54 AM (dfZzK)

227 Mrs fd? Is that you?
Posted by: fd at March 23, 2023 07:55 AM (iayUP)


I am a male person so, no.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 08:54 AM (1Z8zZ)

228 Meatball Ron might have just screwed the pooch.
DeSantis Says 'War Criminal' Putin Should Be 'Held Accountable' Days After Saying Ukraine Not a 'Vital' U.S. Interest


blackmailed already?

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 08:55 AM (uQPen)

229 One point, if nothing else DJT has more votes in a election than anyone else, and don't even try to tell me Sundowner's are all legal. And that was during a all out Democrat Propaganda Ministry hit for 4 years.

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2023 08:55 AM (fxiNq)

230
Welp.

Lessee if Amazon is ackshewallee going to deliver the goods today like promised, after failing to do so yesterday as promised,

so I don't have to waste my day waiting around the homestead.

la di da....la di da....

Posted by: naturalfake at March 23, 2023 08:55 AM (L1tQx)

231 That broke him, it seems. Full on black pill after that.

**********************

I absolutely believe Lake had it in the bag by double digits. The fact that the fraud was so massive as to overcome a double digit deficit is staggering

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:55 AM (VTu1l)

232 219 I don't see a path to 270 but I'm voting in 2024 and hoping for a miracle, because God's in the miracle business.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (k1L5r)

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The reason to vote isn't the national level which, even if we get a Republican president, won't mean much because the administrative state and Congress have decided to simply consolidate power in DC no matter what. It'll take decades to fix along with a miracle out of SCOTUS that completely overturns Chevron to start, if it ever gets fixed.

The reason to vote is the state level. Making red states redder and more secure from voting irregularities. Maybe being able to get the kinds of numbers in purple states to claw back the worst excesses of local Democrat control. If we're on a path towards some kind of national divorce, strong red states are going to be the foundation of the future.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 08:56 AM (LvTSG)

233 DeSantis does well as FL governor, but at the end of the day he's just another s-bag politician who thinks running FL is tantamount to running the entire country.

Posted by: Ziba at March 23, 2023 08:56 AM (4h9M3)

234 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 08:57 AM (Zz0t1)

235 219 I don't see a path to 270 but I'm voting in 2024 and hoping for a miracle, because God's in the miracle business.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (k1L5r)

Amen. VA 2021 agrees with you.

Posted by: Nova Local at March 23, 2023 08:57 AM (exHjb)

236 Many cancers are entirely curable already especially if detected early. Many are not and may never be. Because of the process involved in cellular hyperproliferation and destruction.

--

Elephants very rarely get cancer. Something in their genome keeps their chance of getting cancer very low.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2023 08:57 AM (UuD2k)

237 231 I absolutely believe Lake had it in the bag by double digits. The fact that the fraud was so massive as to overcome a double digit deficit is staggering
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 23, 2023 08:55 AM (VTu1l)

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AZ is the one state that MAY be reversible with a more judicious use of early voting by GOP voters. It's the system, and leaving all votes for voting day can lead to situations like 2022 where, WHOOPS!, all the voting machines are broked. Sorries!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 08:57 AM (LvTSG)

238 Spit if you got it:

Saliva Guitarist Wayne Swinny Dead at 59. Spontaneous brain hemorrhage.

Happens all the time........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 08:57 AM (Zz0t1)

239 I suggest a 1-week trial bannination for anyone who tries to start any kind of Trump vs. DeSantis logomachy, just to try to get this Ship of Morons back on an even keel until primary season actually begins.
/s
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Trump/Desantis kerfuffle is the card the dealer ( media) bends and shows you in the 3 card Monty game they are playing. Walk away


Posted by: Sock Monkey * Free Jacob Chansley at March 23, 2023 08:57 AM (qj8+t)

240 Trump vs. DeSantis isn't as tired and irritating as #TwoWeeks and #BlahBlahWillCome yet, but it'll get there soon enough.

None of this is real. Weapons of mass distraction. The Party and State are more than happy to watch us have a catfight about which opposition candidate won't matter more than a fart in a hurricane, this time around.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2023 08:57 AM (oINRc)

241 Any politician or pundit that uses the phrase 'war criminal' should be forced to define it. It's a phrase we like to throw around a little too freely to associate everything with the Holocaust, the Holodomor, Khmer Rouge, etc.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 07:59 AM (76Foq)


I suspect that they like to say that for two reasons:

1. It's the sheeple thing to say.
2. They want to pretend that Russia started this because they don't want to admit that we did.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 08:58 AM (1Z8zZ)

242 It's a shame that coronal mass ejection happened on the wrong side of the sun. That would have solved a lot of problems.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 08:58 AM (r46W7)

243 This brief DU exchange on how we've passed the tipping point on climate change ended with something so dumb, it could only be a DUer (or brilliant troll?)

30 years ago we might have been able to do something about it. But we let Exxon Mobil dictate our energy policy, and we haven't made any serious attempt to change that policy.

this is why if scientists are proposing using moon dust to cloud the atmosphere to lower temps, it's really time to say, "oh shit, we are fucked".

And how much is Russia adding with its war in UKR?

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 23, 2023 08:58 AM (JCZqz)

244 Wtf is a saliva guitarist? The play with spit?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2023 08:59 AM (UuD2k)

245 194

Right, the thing is that she at one point was trying to get rid of that pup because of her barking (otherwise a good dog). I talked her out of it because the poor pup is just being a dog.

Then she put a barking collar on it (this is a small terrier with a scrawny neck) and I would hear the poor thing screeching from the furthest bedroom in my house. It wasnt stopping that pups barking anyhow. She was just torturing it.

Basically she just needs to be aware of the dogs and whenever they start barking step in and redirect them or bring them inside. I use a silent whistle with mine and or bring them in. They only go out several times per day for brief periods anyhow. We are both home retired and care about our neighbors not to cause them distress.

But this military like requirements that she keeps pushing I find odd to say the least

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 08:59 AM (/k9DC)

246 The Ungrateful Meatball was right that the key to Republican victory goes through Pennsylvania. Trump won it in 2016 and was elected President.

No Republican will win Pennsylvania

Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2023 08:59 AM (pwExq)

247 "The reason to vote is the state level. Making red states redder and more secure from voting irregularities. Maybe being able to get the kinds of numbers in purple states to claw back the worst excesses of local Democrat control."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 08:56 AM (LvTSG)

And just the opposite is going to happen in WI in couple weeks. I predict a dismal showing from conservative and (R) voters. Been kicked in the teeth to many times that they just don't care.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (76Foq)

248 >>"A shocking viral video shows a small white child with his parents being racially abused by a black man on the New York subway."

And why was this being video'd from behind the family being harassed - who made and shared it?

Glad the guy showed restraint at the provocation - it was likely a setup for a viral video.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (mqu1M)

249 The Trump/DeSantis 'feud' is MEDIA CREATED. They're actually stupid for falling for it and taking part in it.

I really wish we were smarter than that........

The media will pick your candidates and YOU'LL LIKE IT.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (Zz0t1)

250 “Ukrainian President VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY ‘didn’t want to appeal to the hearts of Americans, in other words, but to their heads,'” Cornyn tweeted with a link to The Atlantic piece he quoted. “[T]his was his answer: Help us fight them here, help us defeat them here, and you won’t have to fight them anywhere else.”

Todays FOAD list is very short: Cornyn
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 07:59 AM (BRHaw)


I have no issues with Cornyn, et al, shipping out to the front and picking up a rifle. Spending my money or sending our children, however, I do have an issue with.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (1Z8zZ)

251 Damn, just opened the door for some fresh air and all I got was fresh tree pollen. The predicted rain better hurry.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (lz5hY)

252 DeSantis does well as FL governor, but at the end of the day he's just another s-bag politician who thinks running FL is tantamount to running the entire country.
Posted by: Ziba


DeSantis does well as FL governor, but wait until he hit a HoR that is dem majority and a senate that is barely republican.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (dfZzK)

253 "I don't see a path to 270 but I'm voting in 2024 and hoping for a miracle, because God's in the miracle business."

Me too. Even if it's futile, it costs me only a half-hour of my time, so why not?

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Vigor at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (MvF+J)

254 Zelensky’s a war criminal, too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (v4kIh)

255 There would have been no Renaissance because without Trump, the NeverTrumps stay in the shadows and do not self identify. That includes all the elected politicians who fought him directly.

So you have 3/4 of our party, including many here, still believing that many of the traitors are on our side. Not a recipe for a Renaissance.

Hell even today we can't stop smart politically engaged people from falling in love with a Yale Lawyer War Machine POS who, like many before him, just knows what sweet nothings we like to hear.

Posted by: ... at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (foIQo)

256 243 this is why if scientists are proposing using moon dust to cloud the atmosphere to lower temps, it's really time to say, "oh shit, we are fucked".

And how much is Russia adding with its war in UKR?
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 23, 2023 08:58 AM (JCZqz)

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I've pushed that line of thinking here as a joke. It's the greatest argument for letting Russia have everything. Make Ukraine give up. Ukraine keeping its territory is less important than climate change. Democrats and Republicans are just using the war as an excuse to make our climate emergency worse.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:01 AM (LvTSG)

257 Wtf is a saliva guitarist? The play with spit?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2023 08:59 AM (UuD2k)



Their first hit:

https://youtu.be/YfjTZLxekig

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:01 AM (Zz0t1)

258 *biden's EO that was mentioned yesterday that empowers FedGov (all of it) to get involved in elections seals the deal for the Democrats. Forget AZ, GA, PA and the rest of the states where fraud rules. It's now up to all of FedGov to manage and "engage" external "partners" like Facebook, Twitter, Walmart, GM, Shell Oil, etc. to get the vote out.

Their vote. Not yours.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 23, 2023 09:01 AM (Q4IgG)

259 247 And just the opposite is going to happen in WI in couple weeks. I predict a dismal showing from conservative and (R) voters. Been kicked in the teeth to many times that they just don't care.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 09:00 AM (76Foq)

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That would be unfortunate, but understandable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:01 AM (LvTSG)

260 30 years ago we might have been able to do something about it. But we let Exxon Mobil dictate our energy policy, and we haven't made any serious attempt to change that policy.

this is why if scientists are proposing using moon dust to cloud the atmosphere to lower temps, it's really time to say, "oh shit, we are fucked".

And how much is Russia adding with its war in UKR?
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 23, 2023 08:58 AM (JCZqz)
++++
If it's game over now, then isn't the right approach to start resource extraction and goods production at all costs and by any means necessary right now, so as to stockpile as much as possible as insurance against a destroyed future? If you truly believe we cannot fix the problem in the time we have left, the correct conclusion is mash down on the accelerator as hard as possible to stack the deck in your favor to help smooth the transition into Armageddon.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:02 AM (t0OGg)

261 Let us not be so cranky with each other.
Heavy D, The Donald and everyone here loves America and wants to fight the damned commies.
So do America a favor and go convince one, suburban Karen to vote her self-interest.

Posted by: Zek at March 23, 2023 09:02 AM (5FPX4)

262 Many cancers are entirely curable already especially if detected early. Many are not and may never be. Because of the process involved in cellular hyperproliferation and destruction.

--

Elephants very rarely get cancer. Something in their genome keeps their chance of getting cancer very low.

--

One thing I love about this place is someone can say "the medical industry is withholding treatment and will not allow treatment because it will dry up their money supply, we saw it with our own f*cking eyes during COVID" and the takeaway point is that no, some cancers ARE curable.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:02 AM (k1L5r)

263 A guy supposedly as smart as DeSantis is should be choosing his words more carefully less they be "mischaracterized".

Do better.

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2023 09:02 AM (gmo/4)

264 Oh, that's the band's name. Need more coffee. I was trying to figure out how to play a guitar with spit.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2023 09:03 AM (UuD2k)

265 Look a prostate cancer. There is no statistical difference in treated vs untreated in life span. Maybe 1 out 50 have an aggressive form and need radical surgery.
Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 08:48 AM (BRHaw)
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Not sure what you mean by "radical" surgery, but I bet I know six men who've had their prostates removed and undergone chemo/radiation for prostate cancer.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:03 AM (bpapH)

266 *biden's EO that was mentioned yesterday that empowers FedGov (all of it) to get involved in elections seals the deal for the Democrats.


Isn't this unconstitutional? Thought there was something in that pesky thing that leaves the elections to the states.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:03 AM (Zz0t1)

267 They really are going to try and do this, aren't they? They really are. Because they can't help themselves, and where the money comes from really doesn't matter. The social justice insanity trumps everything else.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 23, 2023 08:07 AM (sVtYq)


They should levy a special tax on any former SotH who might reside in SanFran.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 09:03 AM (1Z8zZ)

268 Try not to laugh:

Hillary is going to teach a course in Foreign Policy at Columbia University.

Posted by: Ziba at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (4h9M3)

269 Where does the “Meatball Ron” thing come from? Trump?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (v4kIh)

270 *Lessee if Amazon is ackshewallee going to deliver the goods today like promised, after failing to do so yesterday as promised,*

Mark Rober has a cool video about drone delivery on the UToobz.

Posted by: Just sayin' at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (qVELc)

271 A vote for Donald Trump or Ron Desantis is a vote for Puppy cancer.

THINK OF THE PUPPIES.

Posted by: Totally Not Jeb at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (t+Ihf)

272 "A shocking viral video shows a small white child with his parents being racially abused by a black man on the New York subway."

--

So not just Thursday, but 8:01 Thursday.

This is not news.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (k1L5r)

273
That would be unfortunate, but understandable.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:01 AM (LvTSG)

Yup. It's always interesting to see, when previously committed GOP voters #WalkAway, how the still committed GOP get so angry... At them, but not at the Party that alienated millions of its own base.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (oINRc)

274 The Republican Party is now resorting to sending me emails spoofing my own email address in the "from" line, just like a phishing attack would do.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (bpapH)

275 Oh, that's the band's name. Need more coffee. I was trying to figure out how to play a guitar with spit.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2023 09:03 AM (UuD2k)



LOL.

They actually had some decent stuff, IMHO. They're in my rotation.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:05 AM (Zz0t1)

276 271 A vote for Donald Trump or Ron Desantis is a vote for Puppy cancer.

THINK OF THE PUPPIES.
Posted by: Totally Not Jeb at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (t+Ihf)

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I don't know about that, but a vote for DeSantis is definitely a vote to normalize Nickelback.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:05 AM (LvTSG)

277 Trump vs DeSantis is now a Conserva-Bro grift operation. Go check out Twitter.

Poso Incorporated vs Wil Chamberlain and Associates.

That's just the tip of it. Drumming up hat and trolling to get clicks while damaging guy.

Don't fall into the trap.

Posted by: GigantorX at March 23, 2023 09:05 AM (x8k2o)

278 Isn't this unconstitutional? Thought there was something in that pesky thing that leaves the elections to the states.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:03 AM (Zz0t1)

If you ask me, most of the Executive Branch is already unconstitutional.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2023 09:05 AM (UuD2k)

279 "and where the money comes from really doesn't matter."

Worse: To them, the unintended consequences don't matter.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Vigor at March 23, 2023 09:05 AM (MvF+J)

280 All weekend, the MSM outlets shrieked that Trump would be indicted on Tuesday

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In all fairness Trump hisself shrieked about it this weekend. Might have been the first one to do so in social media .

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2023 09:05 AM (IetnX)

281 Try not to laugh:

Hillary is going to teach a course in Foreign Policy at Columbia University.

Posted by: Ziba at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (4h9M3)


And people wonder how Ivy League schools churn out such mental midget graduates.


Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2023 09:06 AM (gmo/4)

282 *on social media

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2023 09:06 AM (IetnX)

283 Yeah the saliva guitarist thing confused me, too. Had to Google it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 23, 2023 09:06 AM (v4kIh)

284 Good morning Horde and thanks JJ. @14 noted that rapper Tekashi 6ix9ine was assaulted. I don't care either but I'm actually amazed that guy is still alive. He ratted on his fellow Bloods to get out of a long prison sentence. Maybe the Bloods are biding their time

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 23, 2023 09:07 AM (3fyU/)

285 Yeah the saliva guitarist thing confused me, too. Had to Google it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 23, 2023 09:06 AM (v4kIh)



I will try to be more specific in the future.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:07 AM (Zz0t1)

286 Lets try to stop them in Ukraine, K?
Posted by: thesgm at March 23, 2023 08:15 AM (VhDvQ)


When are you shipping out?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 09:07 AM (1Z8zZ)

287 Yeah the saliva guitarist thing confused me, too. Had to Google it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 23, 2023 09:06 AM (v4kIh)
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While my guitar gently seeps...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:07 AM (t0OGg)

288 The nice thing about the Cheapness of the Bargain Basement Bribes Required By Our Politicians is that -

it makes it possible for all of us to have a Pet Politician.

I'm pretty sure I could get The Turtle to put on a g-string and high heels and twerk his way around the Senate Chamber,

if I make it rain $10 bills.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 23, 2023 09:08 AM (L1tQx)

289 Good morning Horde and thanks JJ. @14 noted that rapper Tekashi 6ix9ine was assaulted. I don't care either but I'm actually amazed that guy is still alive. He ratted on his fellow Bloods to get out of a long prison sentence. Maybe the Bloods are biding their time
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 23, 2023 09:07 AM (3fyU/)



Well, that's not going to do much for his 'street cred,' being a lowly rat and all. Not sure that's going to increase his record sales.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:08 AM (Zz0t1)

290 Hate to look at it this way but that white family on NY subway with the toddler being abused by the black man have about an 80% chance of being libs/Dems and voted for this shit. If true, they are getting what they wanted.

Posted by: Ripley at March 23, 2023 09:08 AM (cUYo/)

291 How much you want to bet DA Bragg got some calls from some very "highly placed" people in Washington expressing reservations about him proceeding with a flawed indictment before Georgia could come up with their flawed indictment (but which would resonate better with their themes of "Insurrection").

And of course if any GOP had approached Bragg in the same way they'd already be in leg irons for "obstruction of justice" etc.

Posted by: Zek at March 23, 2023 09:08 AM (5FPX4)

292 At this point who could be "shocked" at a video of abuse on a subway? That's like being "shocked" at a video of monkeys throwing poo at each other.

If you choose to live in the zoo, don't pretend to be surprised by what the monkeys do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 09:08 AM (r46W7)

293 Lemme guess... Columbia is paying visiting professor HRC $100m a semester, right?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2023 09:08 AM (oINRc)

294 Curtis Houck
@CurtisHouck

CNN rushes to TikTok's defense from Senator Mark Warner (D) after he points out "Chinese law trumps anything that the corporate management wants to do" in forcing them to give the CCP data, claiming he's focused on "fears" when "there is no public evidence" it's spied on people.

https://tinyurl.com/yvpv98yf

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (NpAcC)

295 >>Hillary is going to teach a course in Foreign Policy at Columbia University.


a lot of field trips?
Hillary's alleged accomplishment is traveling a lot.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (mqu1M)

296 So the new cheat which I assume will continue is the Provisional.

They 1) do not deliver enough paper blank ballots to (R) precincts. These people are given Provisional Ballots that go into Box C. These either get counted (D) precinct or are left on the cutting room floor if from (R).
2) Print unreadable ballots that are collected in Box C, then they are adjudicated later. In the case of AZ there were 400,000 of these ballots. 250,000 went to Hobbs.
In a 51 (R) vs 45 (D) state that is about 125 standard deviations of from a normal distribution.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (BRHaw)

297 Thanks, JJ. I bet you have to scrub youself with lye soap after you rake up all this evil each day. You are a Hero.

Posted by: Eromero at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (z3WCn)

298 292 At this point who could be "shocked" at a video of abuse on a subway? That's like being "shocked" at a video of monkeys throwing poo at each other.

If you choose to live in the zoo, don't pretend to be surprised by what the monkeys do.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 09:08 AM (r46W7)

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They wanted 1970s New York. They gate 1860s New York instead.

Have fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (LvTSG)

299 I thought maybe saliva guitar had something to do with throat-singing.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (v4kIh)

300 The "I will never vote for desantis because he is a flawed candidate" crowd is out early today.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2023 08:18 AM (ncXxy)


There seem to be a few new nics who've decided to help stir the pot.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (1Z8zZ)

301 "A shocking viral video shows a small white child with his parents being racially abused by a black man on the New York subway."

--

Have any of you watched any XFL games? It's a pro football league that is offensive-driven and has some talented players from college who couldn't make it in or to the NFL. (It's okay football, but I suspect the mid to top SEC teams could run the table if they were allowed to play against them)

One of the things they made a really big deal out of when they were starting up this season was that the helmets for skilled positions had microphones, and you could hear the players on the field. "Listen to the interactions!"

That lasted about one quarter of one game.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (k1L5r)

302 y++++
While my guitar gently seeps...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:07 AM (t0OGg)



The gleeking at shows made them seem very Gallagher.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (Zz0t1)

303 @CurtisHouck
CNN rushes to TikTok's defense from Senator Mark Warner (D) after he points out "Chinese law trumps anything that the corporate management wants to do" in forcing them to give the CCP data, claiming he's focused on "fears" when "there is no public evidence" it's spied on people.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (NpAcC)
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China has a lot of influence but they don't own everything. I suspect they do own CNN. I don't know that for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the CCP is bankrolling that operation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:10 AM (t0OGg)

304 blackmailed already?
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 08:55 AM (uQPen)


Life comes at you fast

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2023 09:10 AM (6fvRe)

305 From J.J.'s M.R. yesterday and the lead "Above the Fold" link:

Executive Order 14019 instructs federal agencies, some of which are unrelated to election administration, to collaborate with external private groups to “promote voter registration and voter participation.”

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 23, 2023 09:10 AM (Q4IgG)

306
CNN rushes to TikTok's defense from Senator Mark Warner (D) after he points out "Chinese law trumps anything that the corporate management wants to do" in forcing them to give the CCP data, claiming he's focused on "fears" when "there is no public evidence" it's spied on people.

https://tinyurl.com/yvpv98yf
Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (NpAcC)



This just in: CNN blows.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:10 AM (Zz0t1)

307 De Santis' head does remind one of a meatball, oddly enough, so I like the name.

Posted by: Ziba at March 23, 2023 09:10 AM (4h9M3)

308 In all fairness Trump hisself shrieked about it this weekend. Might have been the first one to do so in social media .

Posted by: runner

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Which probably had a lot to do with them putting the brakes on.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:11 AM (k1L5r)

309 That lasted about one quarter of one game.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (k1L5r)
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Too much foul language?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:11 AM (t0OGg)

310 I bet Hillary's class is worth 240 credit hours, and miraculously, only the children of the wealthiest Dem donors get into it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2023 09:11 AM (oINRc)

311 Hillary is going to teach a course in Foreign Policy at Columbia University.
Posted by: Ziba at March 23, 2023 09:04 AM (4h9M3)

The answer on the Final is (E) None of the Above.

As she has fucked up everything she touched.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 09:11 AM (BRHaw)

312 309 That lasted about one quarter of one game.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (k1L5r)
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Too much foul language?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:11 AM (t0OGg)

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Or...not enough?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:11 AM (LvTSG)

313 Hate to look at it this way but that white family on NY subway with the toddler

they could be tourists though

furriners love them some public transit

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (6fvRe)

314 Zelensky continues to demonstrate his autocratic attitude. Ordering monks out of their sanctuary and church is out of the soviet playbook. Only the state matters and Zelensky is the state

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (3fyU/)

315 That lasted about one quarter of one game.

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Too much foul language?

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No, they would let some foul language through.

There is lots of diversity, though. And a few white players to experience it.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (k1L5r)

316 "Mrs fd? Is that you?
Posted by: fd at March 23, 2023 07:55 AM (iayUP)

I am a male person so, no.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic "


Well Happy Anniversary anyway. We both are apparently lucky guys.

Posted by: Neo at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (iayUP)

317 ++++
Too much foul language?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:11 AM (t0OGg)



I'm guessing that and all the 'n' words flying about.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)

318 Saliva seems more like a trumpet problem than a guitar problem. Unless one drools like a mastiff.

Posted by: Spit Shine at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (aFgj+)

319 Jen Psaki was just awful in the video clip included at JJS' Spectator link on her new show. Her voice is terribly grating. She just isn't made for TV.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (p92GR)

320 Darn it off new sock

Posted by: fd at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (iayUP)

321 297 Thanks, JJ. I bet you have to scrub youself with lye soap after you rake up all this evil each day. You are a Hero.
Posted by: Eromero at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (z3WCn)


"Some sort of weird sandwich!"

- - Oddball

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (x0n13)

322 May I suggest De Santis for Potus, Kari Lake for Veep, Trump SoS? (I know, Trump would never accept).

Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at March 23, 2023 09:13 AM (VsUQa)

323 Obviously, Russia invaded (last year) that was wrong. They invaded Crimea and took that in 2014. That was wrong.”


Was it?

From where I'm looking, it seems all of their paranoia was well founded.

Because the American government can't stop f*cking with other countries.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 23, 2023 09:13 AM (40DMX)

324 Banks are failing, Biden and the UK seem hellbent on getting us into WWIII, we are being invaded by cartels and foreigners with ill intentions (China), fentanyl is killing record numbers, J6 narrative is being exposed, and more -- and what we're supposed to get all emotionally involved in Trump v DeSantis, two of the very few on our side who have the will to fight the ones who are causing all the chaos?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 08:35 AM (mqu1M)


and there are no laws and legal justice for real Americans - only for those who tow what you see happening around you

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:13 AM (uQPen)

325 I was at a Pearl Jam concert after Eddie Vetter was arrested in New Orleans over some fight/spitting incident. I don't remember the specifics.

But for some reason, he asked everyone in the audience to spit on him. So I was on the floor and like a 1000 people were spitting at him. I almost threw up. It's one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2023 09:13 AM (UuD2k)

326 It was comical to hear the announcers repeatedly saying stuff like "Oh my, sorry that slipped through, as you know that kind of talk isn't tolerated."

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:13 AM (k1L5r)

327 Up front, I do not intend to vote in another federal election unless Trump is indicted or charged. That only would be a no confidence vote in the United States as obviously it would not even matter if he won, which he won't.

That out of the way...

The GOP Establishment has learned NOTHING. DeSantis is their cat's paw, and this potentially dangerous bullshit shows they have not learned one goddamned thing. It's back to fool the rubes, take 23,552. The Republican Party needs to die a horrible death and we need to start to look toward dismantling this corrupt system in a peaceful, rational manner rather than pretending it is anything other than a corrupt oligarchy that is an international embarrassment that will not abide a debate about balls-to-the-wall involvement in Ukraine until the money runs out.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 09:13 AM (KSNKu)

328 I bet Hillary's class is worth 240 credit hours, and miraculously, only the children of the wealthiest Dem donors get into it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2023 09:11 AM (oINRc)



With a guaranteed 4.0 for the semester in all classes if you vote straight ticket Dem in every election.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:13 AM (Zz0t1)

329 219 I don't see a path to 270 but I'm voting in 2024 and hoping for a miracle, because God's in the miracle business.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 08:52 AM (k1L5r)

Amen. VA 2021 agrees with you.
Posted by: Nova Local at March 23, 2023 08:57 AM (exHjb)
****
I'll definitely be voting.
Besides Sinema will be running as an independent in AZ.
Crazy things can happen.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:14 AM (NpAcC)

330 314 Zelensky continues to demonstrate his autocratic attitude. Ordering monks out of their sanctuary and church is out of the soviet playbook. Only the state matters and Zelensky is the state
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (3fyU/)


Old and busted: "What would Jesus do?"

New Zelensky hotness: "What did Stalin do?!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 09:14 AM (x0n13)

331 furriners love them some public transit
Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (6fvRe)
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Private transit is expensive in NY. It was okay - hot, but okay - when I was there in the mid aughts before Giuliani's influence had been totally purged. If I had to go back today, I'd pay for private transit. Run-of-the-mill folks who aren't news junkies probably don't even know what cities like NY have become. I reckon that they go there to take in the bright lights of the big city and get mugged by reality (perhaps literally) pretty damn quick.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:14 AM (t0OGg)

332 Obviously, Russia invaded (last year) that was wrong. They invaded Crimea and took that in 2014. That was wrong.”

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Can we get any input on our own color revolution in Ukraine around that same time?

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:14 AM (k1L5r)

333 No, they would let some foul language through.

There is lots of diversity, though. And a few white players to experience it.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:12 AM (k1L5r)
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Ah.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:14 AM (t0OGg)

334 GOP State legislatures are setting themselves up to decide the winner of the next election. They have already given the GOP an outsized number in the House. What happens, despite the popular vote, they give the Senate and Presidency to the Republican candidates?

Burning houses down is what Bannon recommended.

nothing in the constitution allows to overturn state legislatures. The only other legal way to do this that I can imagine is to give full state status to Puerto Rico and DC.

JFK said what happens: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."

Rs plan on stealing the election and I don't know how to stop it.

We will have to launch our own coup. If they take power democracy will die within 24-hours.The constitution will be suspended, protest will be outlawed and put down by force. Political enemy's and anyone that hurt their feelings will be rounded up and killed (helicopter rides over D.C.) or put in work camps. Their religion will be law. and so on

We don't need our own January 6th Once was enough.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 23, 2023 09:14 AM (JCZqz)

335
Meanwhile, while we're all flinging poo at each other over this, the institutionalized cheating that fucked us all over in 2020 across six crucial states has yet to be dismantled.

No poo to fling, but being from Pennsylvania you can expect whoever wins the (R) nomination to lose this state by a couple hundred thousand. More votes will be cast then registered voters. The Secretary of State will certify this fraud and off to the Electoral College it goes.

Pence had the chance to rub their noses in the stinking pile of dogshit but Nancy and the Deep State outmaneuvered him.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 23, 2023 09:15 AM (enJYY)

336 Trump wants to win and it is clear he has nothing on DeSantis as far as politics and running the country. So he goes to personal attacks (which is his norm).

I'm going to wait this out and vote accordingly.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:15 AM (uQPen)

337 334 We will have to launch our own coup. If they take power democracy will die within 24-hours.The constitution will be suspended, protest will be outlawed and put down by force. Political enemy's and anyone that hurt their feelings will be rounded up and killed (helicopter rides over D.C.) or put in work camps. Their religion will be law. and so on

We don't need our own January 6th Once was enough.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 23, 2023 09:14 AM (JCZqz)

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It's amazing how absolutely none of that happened when Trump was president with a GOP Congress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:15 AM (LvTSG)

338 "as you know that kind of talk isn't tolerated."

Rappers get celebrated and rewarded for that kind of talk.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Vigor at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (MvF+J)

339 No, they would let some foul language through.

There is lots of diversity, though. And a few white players to experience it.

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Ah.

--

The problem wasn't the players with the microphones. I'm sure they were carefully chosen. What they didn't predict was the ability of the microphones to pick up the people all around them.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (k1L5r)

340 ... JFK said what happens: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." ...
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 23, 2023 09:14 AM (JCZqz)
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It never ceases to fascinate me that the hard left is still able to convince itself that they are the revolutionaries rather than the ruling ideology.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (t0OGg)

341 297


Yes

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (/k9DC)

342 In all fairness Trump hisself shrieked about it this weekend. Might have been the first one to do so in social media .

Posted by: runner

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Which probably had a lot to do with them putting the brakes on.
Posted by: NIST


Kind of a Br'er Rabbit thing.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (dfZzK)

343 When I read or hear TikTok I automatically think of the original meaning of tick tock, someone tapping their watch and saying, we're on a schedule here and your time is running out.
Just me I think but the name itself is like a mocking threat.

Posted by: old chick at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (sOete)

344 336 Trump wants to win and it is clear he has nothing on DeSantis as far as politics and running the country. So he goes to personal attacks (which is his norm).

I'm going to wait this out and vote accordingly.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:15 AM (uQPen)

=======

If Trump wants to win, he needs, bare minimum, fund lawsuits into the voting irregularities in as many blue enclaves as he can find and fund.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (LvTSG)

345
I'm going to wait this out and vote accordingly.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:15 AM (uQPen)



It doesn't matter who they put forward, honestly. I'm never voting for a democrat ever for the rest of my existence, so there's that. If the candidate is shitty enough, I'll leave that box empty.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (Zz0t1)

346 340 It never ceases to fascinate me that the hard left is still able to convince itself that they are the revolutionaries rather than the ruling ideology.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (t0OGg)

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They think the FBI is on Trump's side.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (LvTSG)

347 Stephen King
@StephenKing

Lock him up!
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
I’ve been waiting 7 years to say that.
Karma sucks, doesn’t it, Donald?

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:17 AM (NpAcC)

348

39 The main case for RD—Trumpism without the blunt sometimes cruel language—echoes Bush 41’s promise of a kinder gentler conservatism after Reagan. It is right there on p1 of the GOPE playbook. Couple that with his support from Paul Ryan and Faux Nooz, “Heavy D” is a pass for me.

Posted by: Ex-GOP


The first part is lame and a cop out.

The second part is never let someone else decide for you.

Third is see #1

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 23, 2023 09:17 AM (NW9xb)

349 When I read or hear TikTok I automatically think of the original meaning of tick tock, someone tapping their watch and saying, we're on a schedule here and your time is running out.
Just me I think but the name itself is like a mocking threat.

Posted by: old chick

--

That's part of why I never understood people willingly signing up for Discord.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:17 AM (k1L5r)

350 Well, you both do not really want dogs barking all day, regardless of which side of the fence. The other ppl in the neighborhood might call in a noise complaint.

I don't keep pets for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately, my little slice of heaven happens to be between two neighbors who each keep at least five dogs and numerous stray cats.

The cats are constantly in my yard chasing birds and crapping in the gardens. That is what cats do. One neighbor has barking dogs but disciplines them such that they tune up for only a minute.

The other neighbor is a fucking asshole who sought out the noisiest, high energy dog at the pound and asked for something even worse. He added that vile animal to the menagerie at his home, discovered that the animal barked ALL THE FUCKING TIME and thought "instead of giving the dog any attention, maybe I should get another dog just like it so they can play together". Now I have a choir that tune up for as much as nine hours a day. (they are making a cacophony Right Now and its barely past daybreak)

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 23, 2023 09:18 AM (YXHzG)

351 @StephenKing

Lock him up!
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
I’ve been waiting 7 years to say that.
Karma sucks, doesn’t it, Donald?
Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:17 AM (NpAcC)



Too bad he broke no laws, dipshit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:18 AM (Zz0t1)

352 JJS links a Federalist piece by Margot Cleveland today that illustrates well how iden does the nation's business: friends get rewarded with big jobs but, like Papa Corleone, there is always the understanding that - one day - he may call upon you to perform a service.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:18 AM (e+cOY)

353 Hannity is having a 1 hour special with Trump on Monday.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:18 AM (NpAcC)

354 351 Too bad he broke no laws, dipshit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:18 AM (Zz0t1)

=======

Hillary housing classified materials on an unsecured server that is provably compromised by foreign assets? Six billion dollars just going missing from the State Department while she was Secretary of State? Nothing, nonsense, and not worth any attention.

Trump's lawyer paying off a woman without Trump's knowledge? Bring in the firing squad!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:19 AM (LvTSG)

355 295 >>Hillary is going to teach a course in Foreign Policy at Columbia University.
___

How to eliminate friends who know too much and sell out your country while making millions!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 23, 2023 09:19 AM (fs1hN)

356 It never ceases to fascinate me that the hard left is still able to convince itself that they are the revolutionaries rather than the ruling ideology.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (t0OGg)

Pol Pot thought he was a hero. Seriously. And he wasn't as stupid as these evil leftwing bastards in our midst.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 09:19 AM (KSNKu)

357 Hannity is having a 1 hour special with Trump on Monday.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:18 AM (NpAcC)



Where he'll slobber all over him and ask him to say how the FBI is full of ham 'n eggers and only a few bad apples spoil the bunch.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)

358 Not to defend Zelensky, but people here should understand that the Russian Church is an arm of the Russian state, the Ukrainian Church is an arm of the Ukrainian state, and most likely the only actual Christians over there are the few underground Pentecostals over there who stay underground and only meet in safehouses.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (r46W7)

359 The Culturati do not care about diversity. Neither do their woke foot soldiers: richer, more homogenous, and much whiter than those over which they lord.

More important, they hate you.

There is more hate in the HR department of any Fortune 1000 company than the entire US white supremacy movement.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (BRHaw)

360 Run-of-the-mill folks who aren't news junkies probably don't even know what cities like NY have become. I reckon that they go there to take in the bright lights of the big city and get mugged by reality (perhaps literally) pretty damn quick.

yeah, I recall my Euro relatives having a skewed idea of life in the USA. Also, I can't ever recall seeing toddlers on NYC Subway. The bus system is pretty extensive and runs regularly, IIRC little ones were usually transported with their adults via bus.

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (6fvRe)

361 Meatball Ron might have just screwed the pooch.
DeSantis Says 'War Criminal' Putin Should Be 'Held Accountable' Days After Saying Ukraine Not a 'Vital' one does not mutually exclude the other

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (NW9xb)

362 Stephen King
@StephenKing

Lock him up!
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
I’ve been waiting 7 years to say that.
Karma sucks, doesn’t it, Donald?
Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:17 AM (NpAcC)



Prepare for disappointment, Steve.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (yQpMk)

363 If Trump wants to win, he needs, bare minimum, fund lawsuits into the voting irregularities in as many blue enclaves as he can find and fund.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (LvTSG)


And we need to start harvesting ballots.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (uQPen)

364 John Cornyn, one of 11 other 'republicans', to vote to INFRINGE your 2A rights and then tell his constituents that "I don't listen to the mob."

Fuck off

Posted by: Danimal28 at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (klw0w)

365 "Stephen King
@StephenKing

Lock him up! ....."


Never fails to amaze me how many of the rich and famous that are completely dependent on mass sales/audience never hesitate to insult half their potential customers.

Posted by: Ripley at March 23, 2023 09:21 AM (cUYo/)

366

Prepare for disappointment, Steve.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (yQpMk)



I call him Staph.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:21 AM (Zz0t1)

367 When I hear about tick-tock, I think about WTF is taking the GOP so long to impeach and indict Democrats. Tick Tock, GOP!

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Vigor at March 23, 2023 09:21 AM (MvF+J)

368 Please give Cornyn a rifle and combat boots and send him to Ukraine. He can huddle in the cold wet trench with his buddy Lindsey and defend the sacred border of Ukraine. At least he would be defending a border somewhere since he doesn't give a crap about Texas' border.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 23, 2023 08:33 AM (fs1hN)


That's unfair. He cares a great deal about the Texas border. For a few months every six years.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 23, 2023 09:21 AM (1Z8zZ)

369 Because the American government can't stop f*cking with other countries.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 23, 2023 09:13 AM (40DMX)

It's definitely no longer possible to believe we're the good guys, unless you close your eyes and pretend as hard as you can.

I think that's why they've had such trouble drumming up public support for our next forever war. When you can't argue we're doing what's right, the only compelling argument you've really got is "we're fighting for our survival." And that's not the case here, so they're stuck with "once more into the fray, boys! The power of mom and apple pie and eagles and football compels you to get the Big Guys their points off the top of the next heist!"

Not that zero public support will stop the war, but they seem, incredibly, somehow surprised that nobody is swayed by this.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2023 09:22 AM (oINRc)

370 Lock him up! ....."

This is why leftie marxist commie tears are so valuable.

If I had a penny for every leftie tear...

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:22 AM (uQPen)

371 De Santis' head does remind one of a meatball, oddly enough, so I like the name.
Posted by: Ziba at March 23, 2023 09:10 AM (4h9M3)

Concur. Meatball Ron is better than TesticleHead Ron or ScrotumHead Ron.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2023 09:22 AM (OgB1i)

372 @289 actually come to think of it if the Bloods do kill him his record sales will go up

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 23, 2023 09:22 AM (3fyU/)

373 363 If Trump wants to win, he needs, bare minimum, fund lawsuits into the voting irregularities in as many blue enclaves as he can find and fund.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (LvTSG)

And we need to start harvesting ballots.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (uQPen)

========

Harvesting ballots will help in some places, but when states like California can do same day registration along with mail in voting, getting more legit votes from the right will only go so far, and that's not nearly far enough.

It may help in AZ. It's not going to do anything in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:22 AM (LvTSG)

374
And we need to start harvesting ballots.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM


Do you remember your neighbors with Biden signs on the lawn in 2020? Make sure you harvest them appropriately.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 23, 2023 09:23 AM (enJYY)

375 It never ceases to fascinate me that the hard left is still able to convince itself that they are the revolutionaries rather than the ruling ideology.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:16 AM (t0OGg)

maybe we are the baddies

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 09:23 AM (BRHaw)

376 nobody voted for Trump in 2016 because what he HAD done (the main attraction of Desantis) but for what he WOULD do ... what WOULD Desantis do as President ? has he articulated a single domestic policy plan ?

Posted by: The Dark Lord at March 23, 2023 09:23 AM (5cMUX)

377 Cohen's ex attorney is the man who killed this thing. Nobody else. And he says he did it because he couldn't stand to see this farce go on any farther, knowing what he know.

He bluntly told the Grand Jury "Here is how my testimony will destroy this case if you send it to trial.""

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 09:24 AM (r46W7)

378 Not that zero public support will stop the war, but they seem, incredibly, somehow surprised that nobody is swayed by this.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2023 09:22 AM (oINRc)

Look how many times the lies and deception have worked. Cons never can believe the mark is onto them. It's how they get caught eventually.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 09:24 AM (KSNKu)

379 >>Hillary is going to teach a course in Foreign Policy at Columbia University.

a lot of field trips?
Hillary's alleged accomplishment is traveling a lot.
Posted by: Lizzy
++++
Maybe she can tell them the story about dodging sniper fire at the airport. What a great story that was.
Hillary is so stunning and brave. And she can tell them how she would have been president, if only that mean old Putin hadn't stolen the election from her.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at March 23, 2023 09:24 AM (NZbj4)

380 At DM: "Three people die after using contaminated eyedrops bought at Walmart, CVS and Target: Eight lose vision and four have eyeballs surgically removed"

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Vigor at March 23, 2023 09:24 AM (MvF+J)

381 350

That's unacceptable

Posted by: Floridachick at March 23, 2023 09:24 AM (/k9DC)

382
He bluntly told the Grand Jury "Here is how my testimony will destroy this case if you send it to trial.""
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 09:24 AM (r46W7)



He's a lawyer that actually did the right thing. Very rare these days. VERY rare.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:25 AM (Zz0t1)

383 380 At DM: "Three people die after using contaminated eyedrops bought at Walmart, CVS and Target: Eight lose vision and four have eyeballs surgically removed"
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Made in CHY NA?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 23, 2023 09:25 AM (ppL7t)

384 >> "Stephen King
@StephenKing

Lock him up!


I sometimes forget how much the MSM jerks around its faithful.
There's been a Trump removal/arrest "any minute now" since 2016. They are so primed and impatient for the thrill of seeing Trump finally silenced - another Lucy grabbing the football at the last minute scenario.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 09:25 AM (mqu1M)

385 Ford Motor Company is a mess, thanks to concentrating on electric vehicles. If the Uniparty focus on electric stumbles, like say, because of constrained electricity supplies (especially in California), Ford dies. Wow...talk about betting the company....

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:26 AM (e+cOY)

386 Elon Musk
@elonmusk

Replying to
@POTUS
Umm … the banks are melting

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2023 09:26 AM (NpAcC)

387 Pence had the chance to rub their noses in the stinking pile of dogshit but Nancy and the Deep State outmaneuvered him.
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Or did nothing on purpose?

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 09:26 AM (Vwz3I)

388 At DM: "Three people die after using contaminated eyedrops bought at Walmart, CVS and Target: Eight lose vision and four have eyeballs surgically removed"
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Vigor at March 23, 2023 09:24 AM (MvF+J)
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In the Hitman: World of Assassination video game, there's one target that you can eliminate by poisoning his eyedrops. You can either give him a lethal poison (dies immediately) or an emetic poison. The latter will cause him to go to the nearest toilet and start throwing up, where you can drown him for an "accident".

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 09:27 AM (YIVH2)

389 Ford Motor Company is a mess, thanks to concentrating on electric vehicles. If the Uniparty focus on electric stumbles, like say, because of constrained electricity supplies (especially in California), Ford dies. Wow...talk about betting the company....
Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:26 AM (e+cOY)



They're all doing it.

"Mercedes will be all electric by 2030."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

390 BREAKING: 2018 letter states Michael Cohen paid Stormy Daniels with his own funds, Trump did NOT reimburse
"Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed Mr. Cohen for the payment directly or indirectly," the letter read.


Do they care?
No.
In parallel they are continuing to go after more Mar-a-Lago papers.

Trump lawyer ordered to turn over Mar-a-Lago case documents

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal appeals court in a sealed order Wednesday directed a lawyer for Donald Trump to turn over to prosecutors documents in the investigation into the former president's retention of classified records at his Florida estate.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:27 AM (uQPen)

391 John Cornyn, one of 11 other 'republicans', to vote to INFRINGE your 2A rights and then tell his constituents that "I don't listen to the mob."


Which is an insultingly worded admission that he doesn't believe in representation, rule of law or constitutional government and wants to rule by vanity and fiat.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 23, 2023 09:27 AM (YXHzG)

392 Pence had the chance to rub their noses in the stinking pile of dogshit but Nancy and the Deep State outmaneuvered him.
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Or did nothing on purpose?
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 09:26 AM (Vwz3I)



Remember, she handed him the golden ticket after he stabbed Trump in the back.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:28 AM (Zz0t1)

393 I would think these people would be much better suited to a Roman population who valued conquest as an end in itself, so they could just say "we're throwing open the Doors of Janus again!" and everyone would just cheer.

But even that wouldn't work, because they never win anything.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2023 09:28 AM (oINRc)

394 "She’s (Psaki) decided to continue serving as a mouthpiece for Joe Biden."

The author is delusional if she expected anything else. Jen "Make-Over" Psaki's show is on MSNBC.

Posted by: Gref at March 23, 2023 09:28 AM (AMIL/)

395 that's not the case here, so they're stuck with "once more into the fray, boys! The power of mom and apple pie and eagles and football compels you to get the Big Guys their points off the top of the next heist!"


It's a strategy I despise probably worse than any single human characteristic.

It's preying on the goodness of people. It's the same thing that drug addicts do when grifting in front of a church.

They think the people inside the church are kind and good and nice, so they try to con them for dope money. And that's the Republican neo-con, they think the salt of American society is their's for the manipulating.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 23, 2023 09:28 AM (40DMX)

396 He bluntly told the Grand Jury "Here is how my testimony will destroy this case if you send it to trial.""
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2023 09:24 AM (r46W7)
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Sounds like he told the Grand Jury that they could listen to his testimony now or the petit jury will hear it later during Trump's defense.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 23, 2023 09:29 AM (YIVH2)

397 Ford Motor Company is a mess, thanks to concentrating on electric vehicles.

I went into a Ford dealership recently to buy a hybrid truck. They don't have any, and you can't even order one. Stop back next year is what I was told.

That's as f'ed up as it gets.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 23, 2023 09:29 AM (enJYY)

398 Jesse Kelly Schools Trump Supporters

lol, social media sure has spawned a shitload of Legendary-in-their-own-Mind Twats.

go piss up a rope Jesse, I don't really need you to "school" me.

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2023 09:29 AM (6fvRe)

399 They think the FBI is on Trump's side.
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They even think the NYT is pro-GOP. The same nuts here think the same about our leftist CBC.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 23, 2023 09:29 AM (Vwz3I)

400 They're all doing it.

"Mercedes will be all electric by 2030."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

You know who else decided everyone was going to drive a certain kind of car?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2023 09:29 AM (Y5qcH)

401 Pol Pot thought he was a hero. Seriously. And he wasn't as stupid as these evil leftwing bastards in our midst.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 09:19 AM (KSNKu)
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Yup. It doesn't surprise me, but I do find it interesting.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:30 AM (t0OGg)

402 It will happen

Southwest Pilot Suffers Medical Emergency, Becomes Incapacitated Mid-Flight

Another Airline's Pilot Stepped In On Southwest Flight When Member Of Cockpit Crew Fell Ill

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 23, 2023 09:30 AM (uQPen)

403 They're all doing it.

"Mercedes will be all electric by 2030."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)
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Toyota, so far, seems skeptical of that strategy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:30 AM (e+cOY)

404 389 Ford Motor Company is a mess, thanks to concentrating on electric vehicles. If the Uniparty focus on electric stumbles, like say, because of constrained electricity supplies (especially in California), Ford dies. Wow...talk about betting the company....
Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:26 AM (e+cOY)


They're all doing it.

"Mercedes will be all electric by 2030."
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My guess is they are playing for a bailout. Much like NY, CA and IL.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 23, 2023 09:31 AM (ppL7t)

405 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

406 ==================
Toyota, so far, seems skeptical of that strategy.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:30 AM (e+cOY)



And they will win the battle. They will be the only one that survives.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 23, 2023 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

407 go piss up a rope Jesse, I don't really need you to "school" me.
Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2023 09:29 AM (6fvRe)
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I thought he made a great point.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:31 AM (e+cOY)

408 Noodus gratia artis. You can guess what it is.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 23, 2023 09:31 AM (ffbyg)

409 393 I would think these people would be much better suited to a Roman population who valued conquest as an end in itself, so they could just say "we're throwing open the Doors of Janus again!" and everyone would just cheer.

But even that wouldn't work, because they never win anything.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2023 09:28 AM (oINRc)

You define "winning" differently. They got a 20-year revenue stream from Afghanistan. To them, that's winning. They hope to milk a Ukraine stalemate for at least several years and then leave behind a wrecked and defeated country. Again, that's winning to them.

The Romans at least spread around the plunder to some degree.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2023 09:31 AM (KSNKu)

410 I've never seen a product pushed so hard as EV's. they've been doing it for decades and all it's gotten them is a few percent of the market.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2023 09:32 AM (Y5qcH)

411
Toyota, so far, seems skeptical of that strategy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:30 AM


Yeah, they were in the cross hairs of the leftists before. They're not climbing in bed with them with the potential to lose it all. They have some very good hybrids that don't need plugging in.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 23, 2023 09:33 AM (enJYY)

412 "Harvesting ballots will help in some places,
It may help in AZ. It's not going to do anything in Pennsylvania."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 23, 2023 09:22 AM (LvTSG)

It's not going to work in Wisconsin either. The (D)'s can target Milwaukee and Madison. The (R) votes are in the rural area. We have two weeks of early voting. The GOP would need 10 times the people and money. That ain't happening.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2023 09:33 AM (76Foq)

413 WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal appeals court in a sealed order Wednesday directed a lawyer for Donald Trump to turn over to prosecutors documents in the investigation into the former president's retention of classified records at his Florida estate.
Posted by: artisanal ette

So much for Trump's client-attorney privilege.
Any other right we all should fear losing?

Posted by: old chick at March 23, 2023 09:33 AM (sOete)

414 art

Posted by: DB - managing the expectations at March 23, 2023 09:34 AM (geLO8)

415 I thought he made a great point.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 09:31 AM (e+cOY)


ok, awesome

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2023 09:34 AM (6fvRe)

416 JJ,

Please to reconsider opinion on Ukraine. The great VDH asks us to address many unanswered questions about the conflict, yet he leaves key questions unasked himself. Here they are:

What are Russia's intentions beyond Ukraine? Putin has fought several prior, post cold war conflicts to restore the territorial sphere of influence of the old Soviet Union, the demise of which he describes as the century's great political disaster. Is Ukraine his end objective? If not, then what?

Why is Poland undergoing a massive expansion of its military? Why have the Swedes and Finland (previously neutral) suddenly elected to Join NATO? The obvious answer is that they clearly see Russia's intent as extending beyond Ukraine. Multiple NATO countries are likely Russian targets.

If Russia's aggression extends to NATO allies, will we not be obligated by treaty to go to war directly against Russia? Answer is yes. If we fail to do so, our role as global leader will end. Our alliances everywhere will collapse, giving the Chinese free hand to create a new world order, a grim result for every aspect of American life.

Posted by: Winona Bryson at March 23, 2023 09:34 AM (lWHe7)

417 >> "She’s (Psaki) decided to continue serving as a mouthpiece for Joe Biden."


As opposed to: she was hired to be the network's Biden mouthpiece? I would imagine there's rewards to that network in the form of access, etc. for doing so. Recall how MSNBC, which was so obviously run by the DNC and Obama WH, earned exclusive interviews/access to key Dems and then owner GE got huge tax breaks and other benefits.

These people who move from WH to MSM never stop representing their boss. Just look at that idiot Maria Harf on Fox.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2023 09:35 AM (mqu1M)

418 So much for Trump's client-attorney privilege.
Any other right we all should fear losing?
Posted by: old chick at March 23, 2023 09:33 AM (sOete)
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All of 'em.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2023 09:36 AM (t0OGg)

419 I read a book last year (can't remember the name).

After announcing that accomplishment, the book explained that all that's really needed for the Presidency is a few specific counties in a handful of 'swing' states.

I'm in one of the counties and it's now fortified as hell.


Posted by: jeannebodine at March 23, 2023 09:36 AM (cuhfJ)

420 Pissaki looks very tranny in that photo in the article linked above. Who knew?

Posted by: Ziba at March 23, 2023 09:37 AM (4h9M3)

421 364 John Cornyn, one of 11 other 'republicans', to vote to INFRINGE your 2A rights and then tell his constituents that "I don't listen to the mob."

Posted by: Danimal28 at March 23, 2023 09:20 AM (klw0w)
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Which is an insultingly worded admission that he doesn't believe in representation, rule of law or constitutional government and wants to rule by vanity and fiat.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 23, 2023 09:27 AM (YXHzG)
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This is the downside of living in a red state. This POS knows he can get re-elected without even trying, because he's a Republican. The only way to knock him out is to primary him, and nobody can get the funding for that.

We have to be willing to elect a Democrat to toss him out. Personally, I think it'd be worth it.

Posted by: Caiwyn at March 23, 2023 09:40 AM (Bmy9A)

422 Awfully weak tea to be hanging such extreme Daschle-like "I'm concerneds" from, J.J. Be better.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2023 09:41 AM (trVDr)

423 The great VDH asks us to address many unanswered questions about the conflict, yet he leaves key questions unasked himself.


My question remains: Why should I care if the former Russian province of Ukraine is run by Russian Oligarchs or Ukrainian Oligarchs?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 09:41 AM (yQpMk)

424 We have to be willing to elect a Democrat to toss him out.
Posted by: Caiwyn
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See: Thom Tillis (R-NC)

Same deal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2023 09:42 AM (sewR1)

425 255 There would have been no Renaissance because without Trump, the NeverTrumps stay in the shadows and do not self identify. That includes all the elected politicians who fought him directly.

So you have 3/4 of our party, including many here, still believing that many of the traitors are on our side. Not a recipe for a Renaissance.

Hell even today we can't stop smart politically engaged people from falling in love with a Yale Lawyer War Machine POS who, like many before him, just knows what sweet nothings we like to hear.
Posted by: ...
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Yep, well said.

Posted by: whig at March 23, 2023 09:43 AM (oZSqn)

426 418 So much for Trump's client-attorney privilege.
Any other right we all should fear losing?
Posted by: old chick at March 23, 2023 09:33 AM (sOete)
++++
All of 'em.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Notice the Senate GOPe grandees cannot be bothered with such petty issues as constitutional rights. I am reminded of this by Lindsay 'Ladybugs' Graham who said to Cap Hill cops, " you have a gun, shoot them" on Jan 6th.

Posted by: whig at March 23, 2023 09:45 AM (oZSqn)

427 Most American Jews vote Dem and support Soros

Posted by: Paul at March 23, 2023 09:45 AM (rEWMP)

428 Shut up, Dunderhead.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 09:47 AM (yQpMk)

429 I think those are fair questions to ask.

Now I think you should ask yourself the following questions as well:

What are America's interests beyond Ukraine? Numerous American officials, including the President, have noted that they would like to see regime change inside Moscow.

American Senators, mostly GOP, have called for the assassination of Vladimir Putin. What is America's goal in controlling other nations and removing their President with an act of criminality?

What was America's role in sabotaging Russian energy infrastructure? Was it right to destroy another sovereign nations civilian infrastructure?

Why has America fomented unrest and to what degree should America instigate revolutions and coups that destroy the peaceful balance of power in the world?

If the American hegemony seeks to conquer all of the known world and prop up puppet dictators that are antithetical to the history and leadership of sovereign nations, in what way do we differ from all other nations with a desire for global conquest?

Answer these from a neutral, non-American perspective, if you might.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 23, 2023 09:49 AM (40DMX)

430 Have any of you watched any XFL games? It's a pro football league that is offensive-driven and has some talented players from college who couldn't make it in or to the NFL. (It's okay football, but I suspect the mid to top SEC teams could run the table if they were allowed to play against them)

One of the things they made a really big deal out of when they were starting up this season was that the helmets for skilled positions had microphones, and you could hear the players on the field. "Listen to the interactions!"

That lasted about one quarter of one game.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 09:09 AM (k1L5r)

The football game at the end of Mash (the movie) is hilarious in that regard. Helps win the game. LOL! I was just freshly discharged from my two year stint in the army when I first saw the movie with my future wife and I loved it. Lots of relevant satire/humor there.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy no with twice the crazy at March 23, 2023 09:57 AM (Zvtjl)

431 I am reminded of this by Lindsay 'Ladybugs' Graham who said to Cap Hill cops, " you have a gun, shoot them" on Jan 6th.
Posted by: whig

So many people I had believed were staunch conservatives (in ND) echoed that same horrid statement. It almost sickened me to the point of hating them.
Including Senator Cramer and the local radio talk show host, Scott Hennen.

If Rush was here I think he'd say it's time to worry.

Posted by: old chick at March 23, 2023 09:57 AM (sOete)

432 Answer these from a neutral, non-American perspective, if you might.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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These would be considered acts of war obviously in isolation. What complicates matters is prior bad acts by the defendant (Putin), some of which could equally be labeled acts of war (Wagner operatives attacking US troops in Syria for example a few years back).

So essentially, like Saddam, when a country violates international law itself like Russia (or China) has, then it makes it much more of a slog to argue that in this case, they are correct.
The old common law saying is he who comes to court to bring actions against others must have clean hands.

Realism/pragmatism is a much simpler application. It is not in our best interests to foment war in Eastern Europe nor to force Russia into a corner so resolving the UKR-Russia war immediately via peace talks should be first on the agenda.

Posted by: whig at March 23, 2023 09:58 AM (oZSqn)

433 383 380 At DM: "Three people die after using contaminated eyedrops bought at Walmart, CVS and Target: Eight lose vision and four have eyeballs surgically removed"
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Made in CHY NA?
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Nope. India.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 23, 2023 10:01 AM (sWM8x)

434 So many people I had believed were staunch conservatives (in ND) echoed that same horrid statement. It almost sickened me to the point of hating them.
Including Senator Cramer and the local radio talk show host, Scott Hennen.

If Rush was here I think he'd say it's time to worry.
Posted by: old chick
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I am resigned to the fact that constitutional governance is simply not possible when the Uniparty simply refuses to do anything about it.

But, the Uniparty's horrendous performance in office, its overt corruption and disdain for the law, and its ratcheting up of repression seems to be backfiring as far as the public noticing it. That, at least, gives a chance to those wanting a restoration of a government abiding by the Constitution.

Posted by: whig at March 23, 2023 10:03 AM (oZSqn)

435 Good morning, everyone. Thanks, J.J., and not just because I'm in agreement.

I learned many years ago, any pariah in government was worth studying. More often than not, they were the smart, industrious ones, both needed and feared by those in authority. Rarely would any be allowed into government hierarchy; one must have the right sponsors to rise.

PDT took their BS "hope" and change promises from a prior campaign or two & made them into something more real, that could be welcomed by just about everyone, but for dynasties. It wasn't peaceful with him as president - it won't be if he returns - nor will it be if any other "Republician" is elected president. It's ok. Take another page from opposition's book, "No justice, no peace," but stay adults, if possible.

My PA county - Delaware - was featured beneath in the top article containing the detailed audit piece. FYI, bent but not broken, we haven't given up yet! A recent article in the Daily Times: Aston Township commissioners agree to oust voting drop box. So they've joined Upper Chichester and Bethel who've gotten rid of the drop boxes & it seems the county's election director is not delighted.

Aloha.

Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 23, 2023 10:03 AM (GshMh)

436 I voted for Trump twice and knocked on doors for him in Luzerne County PA on weekends in September through just before Election DA in 2020. Not voting for him again.

On Monday on his Truth Social Trump insinuated that DeSantis was some sort of gay groomer who may have been involved with an underaged boy. I was willing to overlook this kind of stuff from him in 2016 because I hated Hillary. Sorry can't vote for him again. I needs someone more disciplined, measured and mature- yet three decades younger. I will vote for DeSantis

Posted by: Victoria at March 23, 2023 10:04 AM (DL+cI)

437 It's not a flip flop. Two things can be true at the same time. He can believe it is a territorial dispute that we have no place in and believe that the person that invaded is a war criminal. I don't understand the people who are twisting themselves into a pretzel to say this is flip flopping. Syria is a war we shouldn't have been involved in AND Assad is a war criminal. It's very simple, but if people are just looking for a reason to hate DeSantis (for reasons I can't figure out) then they'll just make up anything to make themselves out to be right.

Posted by: Dave at March 23, 2023 10:11 AM (vnze2)

438 These would be considered acts of war obviously in isolation. What complicates matters is prior bad acts by the defendant (Putin), some of which could equally be labeled acts of war (Wagner operatives attacking US troops in Syria for example a few years back).


I agree with you. I'm under no delusion that Putin isn't an adversary.

But it is almost comical to ask "What are Putin's ambitions beyond Ukraine", whilst watching the ever eastward creep of NATO.

It's outright laughable to ask "Does Putin desire world conquest" and then follow it up with a statement regarding America's role as "global leader".

No one in Russia elected America as "global leader". No one in China elected America as "global leader". In fact there is no democratic process that respects international borders and state sovereignty that deems one nation as "global leader" over all the others.

There is one global leader and He is on high.

It is difficult to fathom the cognitive dissonance involved in reading the tales of official misconduct government corruption inside the US and then stake claim to its right to "lead the globe".


Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 23, 2023 10:14 AM (40DMX)

439 It is difficult to fathom the cognitive dissonance involved in reading the tales of official misconduct government corruption inside the US and then stake claim to its right to "lead the globe".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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I am old school, I always believed that countries should be run for the benefit of its citizens, not the 'world community'. We should try to lead by example, not get involved in dirty brush wars trying to pacify the world.

Posted by: whig at March 23, 2023 10:17 AM (oZSqn)

440 422 Awfully weak tea to be hanging such extreme Daschle-like "I'm concerneds" from, J.J. Be better.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2023 09:41 AM (trVDr)


Well, Farmer. I AM concerned. DeSantis fucked up with this. It does not mean Trump is not fucking things up and pissing me off but the two are not connected.

And getting it right on Ukraine is kind of a big fucking deal. If you support DeSantis and connected to his campaign, you best be sending them the message for him to stop equivocating and flip flopping.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 10:21 AM (x0n13)

441 "hate his childish name-calling"

"Pierced Organ (a.k.a. Piers Morgan)"

Posted by: Physician, heal thyself at March 23, 2023 10:22 AM (6yf5x)

442 the one-name new nic brigade is out and about this morning, fighting the DeSantis battles. Why? Who knows. They get paid to do this, I suppose.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 23, 2023 10:24 AM (hPOwW)

443 I suspect that our opposition to Russia is chiefly in service of China, executed by the politicians that they own.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 23, 2023 10:24 AM (yQpMk)

444 I don't worry about it whoever it is they will try to destroy. I just hope Jeb Bush gets his shot this time ha ha. The rest of this is politics and it will be forgotten.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at March 23, 2023 10:26 AM (ytSiK)

445 The only argument I see to back Ukraine is that if Putin takes it, he will be right up against Poland, which is in NATO. And if he then starts a border war there, we will be forced to defend it. No?

Posted by: PJ at March 23, 2023 10:53 AM (G1dq6)

446 "Given Trump’s foreign policy achievements while president—ranging from North Korea, where he got Kim Jong Un to agree to a nuclear ceasefire, to Afghanistan, where he set into motion the end of a nearly two decades-long conflict."


Let us not forget the destruction of ISIS and the ending of the top Iranian henchman to name a couple of other accomplishments.

Posted by: Drider at March 23, 2023 10:59 AM (R/UH9)

447 Hang on. Calling Putin a war criminal is not a reversal of "we shouldn't go there."

I think too many people are making too many logical leaps based on nothing the man actually said.

He did screw up with weasel words.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 23, 2023 11:06 AM (WCWc+)

448 On spot again, JJ. Two days running too!

I will add that your ending comnents are the crux of everything and can confidently state that NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN in regards to "election integrity" [those two words are the ultimate oxymoron in American politics] as the Republicans benefit from the establishment cheat machine as much as the Democrats and are part of that machine. Take my home state of Mississippi in 2014, during the Republican Senate Primary that pitted Tea Party favorite Chris McDaniel against incumbent Thad Cochran. McDaniel was going to win and so the Cochran team, in conjunction with former governor Haley Barbour, his nephew Henry, Mitch McConnell backed Brad Daysong and the MS Democrat Party concocted a plan to "expand the electorate," by getting Democrats (who had already voted in the state Democrat primary) to crossover vote in the Republican primary by 5-7000 extra votes that put Cochran over the top by a few thousand, thus ensuring the establishment would keep control. And the courts in MS delayed McDaniel's lawsuits until time ran out, because most of them had been previously appointed by Haley Barbour. The G.O.P. is worse than the Democrats!

Posted by: Tracy at March 23, 2023 11:12 AM (lmfvP)

449 One last point on my above comments about the Mississippi Republican Senate Primary of 2014. The crossover voting by Democrats that had previously voted in the Democrat Senate Primary is A CRIME IN THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI and yet our state Supreme Court did nothing. In relation, look no further than Doug Ducey of AZ, Brian Kemp of GA, the whole of the Republican controlled legistlatures in PA, MI and WI in 2020, the response of the courts and then it becomes crystal clear that Republicans are chief players in the national "fortifying" CHEAT machine and worked in tandem with Democrats to steal 2020. This is why I distrust nearly ALL Republicans and hate them with every fiber of my being. If Desantis has the backing of those establishment Republicans, he's about to lose a ton of support from those who were thinking of giving him theirs.

Posted by: Tracy at March 23, 2023 11:21 AM (lmfvP)

450 437: Correct. And since you brought up Syria, DeSantis, while in congress, was a vocal opponent of any US intervention there.

Quoting an article from someone as batshit crazy as Paul Ingrassia doesn't do one any favors either - he's a Trump cultist who posts pics of DeSantis as Satan on his Twitter timeline. I can't believe AMGreatness gave that turd a byline.

Posted by: Cynical Stoic at March 23, 2023 12:02 PM (0hHNz)

451 171 would prefer that we never have to see the outright disintegration of NATO in the face of Russian aggression. Lets try to stop them in Ukraine, K?
Posted by: thesgm at


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Who is this we , new nic? YOU?? Go right ahead. Fight those Soviets!!


I think your emotions caused you to miss the point. We, as in the United States, will be obligated to engage if Russia moves on a NATO country. I foresee a situation when the Western Europeans don't want to help the Eastern Europeans and leaving us to it.

Ergo, I prefer we, as in the US collectively, provide materiel to Ukraine so we, as in individual citizens, don't have to go there.

"Conservatives" are becoming more like liberals every day. You get issued the party line, by God, you are gonna stick to it without nay thought of your own.

Posted by: thesgm at March 23, 2023 01:00 PM (0VY45)

452 286 Lets try to stop them in Ukraine, K?
Posted by: thesgm at March 23, 2023 08:15 AM (VhDvQ)

When are you shipping out?

Like I said...more like liberals every day.

Nice chickenhawk argument you have there...that is generally the last vestige of an idiot liberal but you got there too.

PS I am a retired Sergeant Major and veteran of 2 foreign wars. Calling me a Chickenhawk doesn't really work that well on me.

Posted by: thesgm at March 23, 2023 01:03 PM (0VY45)

453 F*ck Ukraine, f*ck Zelensky, and f*ck anyone wanting to get us involved in WWIII over there.

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 01:33 PM (k1L5r)

454 In 2000, George W. Bush distinguished himself from Al Gore in the second presidential debate by saying America shouldn't act as the world's policeman. Unless DeSantis disavows support from the Bushes, I'll never line up on the same side as them again.

Posted by: Eric at March 23, 2023 01:33 PM (R/lww)

455 441 "hate his childish name-calling"

"Pierced Organ (a.k.a. Piers Morgan)"

Posted by: Physician, heal thyself at March 23, 2023 10:22 AM (6yf5x)


I'm not running for office. And it's only childish when the name doesn't match the target to which it is aimed.

QED

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 01:36 PM (x0n13)

456 And let me add:

F*ck anyone who thinks that we should be upset that our bioweapons labs on the Russian border were disclosed and we should start WWIII over our attempt to replay the Cuban Missile Crisis in a country we overthrew.

Spoiler: We're the bad guys in this scenario

Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 23, 2023 01:42 PM (k1L5r)

457 JJ, you wrote the following in your post:

"And yes, Putin is a war criminal, a thug and generally a not-nice person."

So where is the difference between what DeSantis said, and what you wrote?

Stating Putin is a war criminal (in your opinion) is not the same thing as saying we should send Ukraine bottomless amounts of aid. Or else you just admitted that's what you want to do.

So why are you following the same tactic the MSM perfected against Trump -- take a sentence out of context, blow it way out of proportion, and pretend that it's the sum total of his thoughts on the matter in question. Ignoring everything else he's ever said on the same issue. Context is everything.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at March 23, 2023 03:05 PM (1gif2)

458 The GOP is screwed. Large swaths of low income, crossover Trump voters demonstrated in 2022 that they stay home when Trump isn't on the ballot. Note to Team DeSantis: even if he were to win the primary, he will get slaughtered in the general and end his career as a politician.

Unfortunately, Trump has learned nothing and if anything is more hated than ever by a large chunk of America. Not fixable disenchantment--HATE. He still lauds the Covid jab and still has the same loser advisors (Brook Rollins, Stepien, Clark, really?).

At the national level, the GOP is sleepwalking through hearings with understaffed teams. The effing jab is still getting pushed--even to young children now. The GOP joined with Biden on his insane spending and is lined up to back the US into WW3 over the D.C. money laundering pit otherwise known as Ukraine.

How about all those GOP state houses? Where's the effort to fix voter registration rolls, to end no excuse mail-in voting, to eliminate drop boxes, to ensure election laws are actually followed by secretaries of state and judges? Yeah, that's what I thought.

It's like watching a bunch of monkeys f**king a football.

Posted by: Lawrence L at March 23, 2023 03:29 PM (FAuXd)

459 "We just dodged a catastrophe that would have made global warming, WW III, or a new ice age look like a picnic – and nobody realizes it."

Dodging the Apocalypse


Wow. A little over 450 comments, yet no one commented on the fact we just missed an apocalypse. Scary shit.

One serious difference from 1859 was that explosion took place on the side of the sun facing away from earth. If it had been facing in our direction, if the earth had borne the full brunt of that blast, we can scarcely imagine the results. [ . . . ]

The consequences beggar the imagination. A new Dark Age would have been the best option to expect.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 23, 2023 04:26 PM (Do5/p)

460 74K Solar Tornado Meanders Across Surface of the Sun

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2023 07:46 AM (BRH

You mean the Coronal Mass Event that had it not been on the far side of the sun would have wiped out humanity a few weeks ago?

Neato indeed.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 07:48 AM

Ahah, someone did comment on it. Serves me right for just doing a page search for "Apocalypse" and finding nothing and assuming no one mentioned it.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 23, 2023 05:23 PM (Do5/p)

461 457 Posted by: Rusty Trawler at March 23, 2023 03:05 PM (1gif2)

The difference is the war in Ukraine has no bearing on our national security interests at home or abroad. He is an unsavory thug and a war criminal for invading a sovereign state, whatever the borders are or were. Remember, this feud has been going on since the time of the tsars.

It's none of our business, sad as the situation is. I believe I elucidated this in my editorial but you must have missed it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 05:43 PM (x0n13)

462 457 Posted by: Rusty Trawler at March 23, 2023 03:05 PM (1gif2)


As for DeSantis stating this, his left out the part about it's none of our damn business and backpedaled on his "border dispute" comment which is 100% accurate.

He's being mealy-mouthed and trying to triangulate. That is not a good look.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2023 05:46 PM (x0n13)

463 Wait, so Putin is a war criminal, but Bush, Clinton and Obama are not? Because hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, Libyans and Syrians are saying, hold my beer.

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