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THE MORNING RANT: 20th Century “Think Tank Conservatism” Cannot Save Our Cities
It used to be that Democrat mayors and city councils were all about jobs programs, generous salaries and benefits for municipal employees, and a smorgasbord of services for residents. In exchange, the taxes and corruption of the power structure was tolerated, but citizens always felt they could rely on a certain level of policing and civil order. Republicans, by contrast, offered “limited government” and lower taxes, and they were routed at the polls for decades. With our major cities now boarded up and in ruins, this is an ideal time for Republicans to assert a “municipal conservatism” that our dying cities are desperately in need of. But the worn-out, libertarian, anti-government Republican platform of old will not fix the anarchy that has overtaken our cities. Heck, the left’s demand to abolish the police could itself be defined as “anti government.” What Republicans need to offer is city services done right: Policing; Patriotism; Cleanliness; Safety; Usable parks; Schools that teach the “Three Rs”; Anti-vagrancy; Pro-small business; Pro-church; Pro-America. The opportunity is huge because Democrats now oppose all of those building blocks of civilization. Sure, let’s go ahead and promise to clean up the graft, to eliminate full-retirement for 50-year-olds, to reduce red tape, to replace pensions with 401ks, etc. But above all else, let’s promise and deliver a return to civil order in our cities. There is a huge demand for it.Mr. Roach is making similar arguments. Chicago Needs Liberty, But Order Too [American Greatness – 3/05/2023]
Chicago and Lightfoot indirectly illustrate a real problem with the “think tank” crowd who form the heart of Conservatism, Inc. All of these Koch-funded outfits, the Catos and AEIs, are libertarian-leaning. They counsel that big government is the problem, which is obviously true some of the time, with examples ranging from Chicago’s once-stringent gun control regime to the voluminous and burdensome Code of Federal Regulations. But this is not the whole story or even the major obstacle today in America’s cities. There are also serious deprivations of liberty imposed by crime and disorder. If you do not feel safe at night going to the store, shopping, or getting on the train, you are not really free. It does not matter that this threat does not come from the government, but, in those cases, from government’s absence.
An absence of citizen-controlled municipal policing simply means that the policing of the streets is turned over to gangs and criminals. Is that the small government that Koch and Cato argue for? Is releasing criminals without bail the liberty that Koch and Cato adore?
Much of modern government has the quality that Sam Francis described as “anarcho-tyranny.” Extreme restrictions and chaotic anarchy exist side by side.In unpoliced paradises such as Chicago, the criminals enjoy a libertarian existence free of government interference, while the law-abiding must endure a web of restrictions and mandates to navigate modern life.
For those seeking to live “within” the system, a million rules and procedures keep them in line, whether it is vaccine mandates, parking tickets, gun control, various taxes, or endless paperwork. You wouldn’t want to lose your cushy corporate job, professional license, or ability to see your kids, would you? At the same time, those who have already encountered the criminal justice system enjoy a certain kind of outlaw freedom.Rudy Giulani in his tenure as New York City mayor showed us what can be done to restore failed cities. People like me were sometimes critical of him for not being enough of a small-government conservative. I was wrong. More and more I realize how remarkable his tenure was as a municipal conservative. 20th Century conservative political cliches about small government are irrelevant now. Let us hope that in some failing city, be it Chicago, or Philadelphia, or wherever, there is a bold politician who will shake up municipal politics like Giulani once did, but updated for the pathologies of the 2020s and beyond. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
Comments
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Sorry to interrupt your civil war argument.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 11:00 AM (aylmF)
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SPONGE!!
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 20, 2023 11:00 AM (Mkvkw)
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Well and it's another day of fun and games!
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2023 11:01 AM (anj39)
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Not first!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2023 11:02 AM (i5yTE)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)
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Politico: Behind me, somebody whispered, “We’re a republic, not a democracy” — a tongue-in-cheek slogan that some conservatives have adopted as a way to slyly signal their approval of minority rule.
Posted by: PeeWee Herman at March 20, 2023 11:03 AM (RHGPo)
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Until the populations of these cities live as if they deserve better, they will just get more of the same.
You cannot drag an unwilling populous up.
You cannot drag an unwilling populous up.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:03 AM (KbCG3)
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Chitcago gets what Chitcago wants, as does NYC, SFO, LA, etc.
I do not feel sorry for those reaping it.
I will pray for The Lord to have mercy on their souls, because it's what I'm supposed to do.
I do not feel sorry for those reaping it.
I will pray for The Lord to have mercy on their souls, because it's what I'm supposed to do.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)
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Sorry to interrupt your civil war argument.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
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I suspect we'll have another one soon.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
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I suspect we'll have another one soon.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:04 AM (ZLyax)
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You cannot drag an unwilling populous up.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:03 AM (KbCG3)
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Indeed. Just look at Afghanistan for an extreme example.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:03 AM (KbCG3)
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Indeed. Just look at Afghanistan for an extreme example.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2023 11:04 AM (YIVH2)
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For what it's worth, I'm hearing that History of the World Part II is woke shit.......
Plus it has Seth Rogen in it, so I won't be seeing it anyway.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)
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Brooks has said for years that he couldn't make comedy in contemporary America, pretty much since Dracula: Dead and Loving It.
Why anyone would think that History of the World Part II would have the kind of satirical bite Brooks had in the late 70s and early 80s was always weird thinking. Of course it was going to be driven by modern comedic sensibilities. Brooks' name was pretty much just a marketing ploy. I doubt he had any creative input that ended up on screen.
Plus it has Seth Rogen in it, so I won't be seeing it anyway.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)
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Brooks has said for years that he couldn't make comedy in contemporary America, pretty much since Dracula: Dead and Loving It.
Why anyone would think that History of the World Part II would have the kind of satirical bite Brooks had in the late 70s and early 80s was always weird thinking. Of course it was going to be driven by modern comedic sensibilities. Brooks' name was pretty much just a marketing ploy. I doubt he had any creative input that ended up on screen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:04 AM (LvTSG)
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“Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”
-- Benjamin Franklin
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”
-- Benjamin Franklin
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 11:05 AM (RHGPo)
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6 Politico: Behind me, somebody whispered, “We’re a republic, not a democracy” — a tongue-in-cheek slogan that some conservatives have adopted as a way to slyly signal their approval of minority rule.
Posted by: PeeWee Herman at March 20, 2023 11:03 AM (RHGPo)
Just forget the multiple mentions in the US Constitution about a Republican form of govt.
Posted by: PeeWee Herman at March 20, 2023 11:03 AM (RHGPo)
Just forget the multiple mentions in the US Constitution about a Republican form of govt.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 20, 2023 11:05 AM (Y5qcH)
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Government fails if it does not protect those whose taxes support it.
Called loss of confidence. And the Democrats are doing a bang up job of it.
Called loss of confidence. And the Democrats are doing a bang up job of it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:05 AM (ZTAGJ)
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For those seeking to live “within” the system, a million rules and procedures keep them in line, whether it is vaccine mandates, parking tickets, gun control, various taxes, or endless paperwork. You wouldn’t want to lose your cushy corporate job, professional license, or ability to see your kids, would you?
Yes. That is the thing. Some people can live outside of the system, they thrive outside of the system (Biden), but others MUST live within the system, or the system will crush them 1000 ways from Sunday.
Yes. That is the thing. Some people can live outside of the system, they thrive outside of the system (Biden), but others MUST live within the system, or the system will crush them 1000 ways from Sunday.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 11:05 AM (aylmF)
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Politico: Behind me, somebody whispered, “We’re a republic, not a democracy” — a tongue-in-cheek slogan that some conservatives have adopted as a way to slyly signal their approval of minority rule.
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FWIW, my mention of it is to slyly signal that I don't approve of mob rule running rampant over the freedoms of minority positions.
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FWIW, my mention of it is to slyly signal that I don't approve of mob rule running rampant over the freedoms of minority positions.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:06 AM (ZLyax)
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Yea, no.... the cities continuously bring the shit upon themselves no matter who's running the show. Put a conservative in and after one term they're run out of town on a rail.
IMO cities provide very little return on a significant monetary and social effort to keep them stable.
Let 'em burn, then scatter and salt as needed.
IMO cities provide very little return on a significant monetary and social effort to keep them stable.
Let 'em burn, then scatter and salt as needed.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 20, 2023 11:06 AM (Q4IgG)
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Morning.
Posted by: Robert at March 20, 2023 11:06 AM (TeTpz)
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I'm traveling this week and forced to stay is a big city for a few days. Absolutely hate being here.
"Sure, let’s go ahead and promise to clean up the graft, to eliminate full-retirement for 50-year-olds, to reduce red tape, to replace pensions with 401ks, etc. But above all else, let’s promise and deliver a return to civil order in our cities. There is a huge demand for it."
But is there Buck? I don't know. Sure, some residents call for reforms like you mentioned but it appears to me that a very large portion of the broken urban culture folks truly are unable to connect their repeated election of thieves and grifters with the destruction of the place where they live.
"Sure, let’s go ahead and promise to clean up the graft, to eliminate full-retirement for 50-year-olds, to reduce red tape, to replace pensions with 401ks, etc. But above all else, let’s promise and deliver a return to civil order in our cities. There is a huge demand for it."
But is there Buck? I don't know. Sure, some residents call for reforms like you mentioned but it appears to me that a very large portion of the broken urban culture folks truly are unable to connect their repeated election of thieves and grifters with the destruction of the place where they live.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2023 11:06 AM (OQM6D)
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20th Century think-tank conservatism got us where we are today. It's useless because it has no mechanism - or even a preference for - action.
Digging out of the hole is going to be difficult for the urban hellscapes, but it needs to start with arrests. There are two major problems plaguing the cities, and both of them need major arrest activity to begin to counter:
1. Vagrancy
2. Property and drug crime
There's violent crime, too, but it's often tied in with point number 2. Some law changes can help with this (stand your ground/castle doctrine extended to business, with no outrageous prosecution of those who defend themselves or their property from bandits), but I think it needs to start with vagrancy, shoplifting and auto crime. Arrest those people and prosecute them. Put them in jail. Then they can start going after lesser but still important things, like the traditional drug zones, condemning and tearing down abandoned buildings that act as crime/drug dens, etc.
Digging out of the hole is going to be difficult for the urban hellscapes, but it needs to start with arrests. There are two major problems plaguing the cities, and both of them need major arrest activity to begin to counter:
1. Vagrancy
2. Property and drug crime
There's violent crime, too, but it's often tied in with point number 2. Some law changes can help with this (stand your ground/castle doctrine extended to business, with no outrageous prosecution of those who defend themselves or their property from bandits), but I think it needs to start with vagrancy, shoplifting and auto crime. Arrest those people and prosecute them. Put them in jail. Then they can start going after lesser but still important things, like the traditional drug zones, condemning and tearing down abandoned buildings that act as crime/drug dens, etc.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:07 AM (t0OGg)
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Government fails if it does not protect those whose taxes support it.
Called loss of confidence. And the Democrats are doing a bang up job of it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:05 AM (ZTAGJ)
I dreamed they sent the ATF to my house...just to harass me.
Called loss of confidence. And the Democrats are doing a bang up job of it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:05 AM (ZTAGJ)
I dreamed they sent the ATF to my house...just to harass me.
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2023 11:07 AM (AwYPR)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 20, 2023 11:07 AM (Vwz3I)
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Is lawless anarchy in major American cities the “limited government” that libertarian-leaning conservatives have been promoting for decades? If not, what is the conservative prescription to rescue our failed cities?
There is no short term solution. I'll just go ahead and say it. The problem with urban crime is that it's a euphemism. It is understood that what's really meant is black and hispanic crime. When someone talks about a bad part of town, that's what they mean.
The solution requires a complete repudiation of the cult of victimhood we've wallowed in since LBJ, but in particular since Obama. It requires the reimposition of standards, and a rejection of the idea that nothing can be expected of you because of systemic racism. Finally, it's acceptance of the idea that your life is your responsibility, and if your life sucks because you make poor choices, well, that's on you. Nobody is coming to bail you out.
There is no short term solution. I'll just go ahead and say it. The problem with urban crime is that it's a euphemism. It is understood that what's really meant is black and hispanic crime. When someone talks about a bad part of town, that's what they mean.
The solution requires a complete repudiation of the cult of victimhood we've wallowed in since LBJ, but in particular since Obama. It requires the reimposition of standards, and a rejection of the idea that nothing can be expected of you because of systemic racism. Finally, it's acceptance of the idea that your life is your responsibility, and if your life sucks because you make poor choices, well, that's on you. Nobody is coming to bail you out.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:07 AM (eOEVl)
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Rudy Giulani in his tenure as New York City mayor showed us what can be done to restore failed cities.
He did but I wonder if that can happen again? I s'pose in some areas. But the demographics of major cities now as compared to then have changed. Less education, more drugs, more illegals, more corruption, etc. There may be no saving some cities.
He did but I wonder if that can happen again? I s'pose in some areas. But the demographics of major cities now as compared to then have changed. Less education, more drugs, more illegals, more corruption, etc. There may be no saving some cities.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2023 11:07 AM (anj39)
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One of the Hulu commercials for Part II Mel Brooks gives a grin and says he took the money.
As I said in the ONT, Mel Brooks hit peak Hitler in The Producers.
"Heil myself!"
As I said in the ONT, Mel Brooks hit peak Hitler in The Producers.
"Heil myself!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:07 AM (ZTAGJ)
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25 As I said in the ONT, Mel Brooks hit peak Hitler in The Producers.
"Heil myself!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:07 AM (ZTAGJ)
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Which is from To Be Or Not to Be, which is a remake of an Ernst Lubitsch film.
"Heil myself!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:07 AM (ZTAGJ)
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Which is from To Be Or Not to Be, which is a remake of an Ernst Lubitsch film.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (LvTSG)
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I'm beginning to accept that 350M people and 50+ states is too big for a republic, though.
We don't share values or culture any longer, and there is very limited "becoming American" in immigrants.
It wasn't even 40 years ago that "American" was understood by everyone. Now it's just a muddled mess, with Heritage America being what people probably think of but that probably only 30% or so of the population practice.
We don't share values or culture any longer, and there is very limited "becoming American" in immigrants.
It wasn't even 40 years ago that "American" was understood by everyone. Now it's just a muddled mess, with Heritage America being what people probably think of but that probably only 30% or so of the population practice.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (ZLyax)
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> Brooks' name was pretty much just a marketing ploy. I doubt he had any creative input that ended up on screen.
Yeah, he's about 100 years old. He was still reasonably sharp the last time I saw him, but that's been a while.
Just checked: he's 96.
Yeah, he's about 100 years old. He was still reasonably sharp the last time I saw him, but that's been a while.
Just checked: he's 96.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (bW8dp)
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Clearly the solution to urban decay is Robocop shooting criminals in the balls.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (Y5qcH)
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It does not matter that this threat does not come from the government, but, in those cases, from government’s absence.
Not correct.
The government has knowingly and intentionally created the crime that has made America's cities shitholes. Why?
People full of fear, real or imagined, are easier to control.
Not correct.
The government has knowingly and intentionally created the crime that has made America's cities shitholes. Why?
People full of fear, real or imagined, are easier to control.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (lc5cP)
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The main problem for GOP candidates in urban counties is the utterly corrupt county boards of elections.
Posted by: mrp at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (rj6Yv)
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The bottom of the Curley Effect is rock-bottom.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (44ww/)
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If Republicans ever get control of shitholes like Chicago and Baltimore, they'll sorely regret not having the Dems to blame for them anymore. Those cities cannot be tamed without military force. Even if tamed, their residents will never be educable.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (MvF+J)
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28 Yeah, he's about 100 years old. He was still reasonably sharp the last time I saw him, but that's been a while.
Just checked: he's 96.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (bW8dp)
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I'm surprised he's still got energy. His wife died 20 years ago, and his best friend (Carl Reiner) died about 5 years ago.
Just checked: he's 96.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (bW8dp)
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I'm surprised he's still got energy. His wife died 20 years ago, and his best friend (Carl Reiner) died about 5 years ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (LvTSG)
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I thought that was a Jack Benny movie
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (ZTAGJ)
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Odd argument. Republicans should fix up what Dems have destroyed? Sounds like an argument that flyovers exist to bail out their betters, over and over again. Not much of a plan.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (8Sqzu)
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Logging in
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (Ck5SS)
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I threw out a bunch of moldy bread for the grackals and I swear to GAWD these stupid birds...
They keep trying to sneak up on it then peck at crumbs.
They keep trying to sneak up on it then peck at crumbs.
Posted by: Robert at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (TeTpz)
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32 The bottom of the Curley Effect is rock-bottom.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (44ww/)
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Detroit is still trying to find it.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (44ww/)
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Detroit is still trying to find it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (LvTSG)
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35 I thought that was a Jack Benny movie
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (ZTAGJ)
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Benny's first movie, directed by Ernst Lubitsch.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (ZTAGJ)
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Benny's first movie, directed by Ernst Lubitsch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:10 AM (LvTSG)
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Continuing with the thoughts from #23, here's an interesting nugget:
https://tinyurl.com/2p8t54uy
Trump is ahead of Desantis in recent polls because of black and hispanic conservatives. If one considers only the white vote, they're tied. Part of this is probably cultural; blacks in particular seem to like Trump's gaudy persona, and his in your face style.
https://tinyurl.com/2p8t54uy
Trump is ahead of Desantis in recent polls because of black and hispanic conservatives. If one considers only the white vote, they're tied. Part of this is probably cultural; blacks in particular seem to like Trump's gaudy persona, and his in your face style.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:10 AM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:10 AM (ZTAGJ)
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I want to be sure to mention again that people joke about Chicago, but Chicago would have to have a six month "raising awareness" campaign to match the levels of violent crime in Birmingham, Alabama.
One of the funniest things I ever saw was around 2015 or so. 100+ murders in Birmingham, and not a single white male offender.
One of the funniest things I ever saw was around 2015 or so. 100+ murders in Birmingham, and not a single white male offender.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:10 AM (ZLyax)
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Willowed:
For what it's worth, I'm hearing that History of the World Part II is woke shit.......
Plus it has Seth Rogen in it, so I won't be seeing it anyway.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)
There isn't a single laugh or even a smile in the trailer.
Just coma inducing, lame-ass, woke posturing.
If that's your thing, enjoy!
For what it's worth, I'm hearing that History of the World Part II is woke shit.......
Plus it has Seth Rogen in it, so I won't be seeing it anyway.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)
There isn't a single laugh or even a smile in the trailer.
Just coma inducing, lame-ass, woke posturing.
If that's your thing, enjoy!
Posted by: naturalfake at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (L1tQx)
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The government has knowingly and intentionally created the crime that has made America's cities shitholes. Why?
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To protect the grift. Make is so bad that nobody would want to live their but desperate slaves. Pretty much this explains everything.
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To protect the grift. Make is so bad that nobody would want to live their but desperate slaves. Pretty much this explains everything.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (8Sqzu)
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Clearly the solution to urban decay is Robocop shooting criminals in the balls.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (Y5qcH)
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Nah. Have you seen real robots? They'd be stripped and sold for scrap almost immediately.
The "solution" will be recriminalization and aggressive use of arrest and prosecution, or it will be vigilantes. Vigilante groups - probably calling themselves "Neighborhood Watch Organizations" - will rise out of this. When the state loses control of internal security - and the large cities have, except for the ability and willingness to prosecute vigilantes - vigilantism and/or organized crime will fill the vacuum. The only thing preventing widespread vigilantism today is the two-tiered system of law. Suddenly the cops have plenty of resources and the DA is "tough on crime" when it comes to hunting vigilantes.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (Y5qcH)
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Nah. Have you seen real robots? They'd be stripped and sold for scrap almost immediately.
The "solution" will be recriminalization and aggressive use of arrest and prosecution, or it will be vigilantes. Vigilante groups - probably calling themselves "Neighborhood Watch Organizations" - will rise out of this. When the state loses control of internal security - and the large cities have, except for the ability and willingness to prosecute vigilantes - vigilantism and/or organized crime will fill the vacuum. The only thing preventing widespread vigilantism today is the two-tiered system of law. Suddenly the cops have plenty of resources and the DA is "tough on crime" when it comes to hunting vigilantes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (t0OGg)
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When you're alone and life is making you lonely
You can always go downtown
When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help, I know, downtown
When you're alone and life is making you lonely
You can always go downtown
When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help, I know, downtown
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (63Dwl)
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It's ThunderDome time.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (5xURv)
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>Sorry to interrupt your civil war argument.
>I suspect we'll have another one soon.
Yes.
Oh wait you meant an argument.
Uh yes.
>I suspect we'll have another one soon.
Yes.
Oh wait you meant an argument.
Uh yes.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (44ww/)
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Detroit is still trying to find it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (LvTSG)
Having just come back from a trip there to see my daughter - TJM isn't lying.
Detroit is still trying to find it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (LvTSG)
Having just come back from a trip there to see my daughter - TJM isn't lying.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (N39Ws)
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Brooks' name was pretty much just a marketing ploy. I doubt he had any creative input that ended up on screen.
Yeah, he's about 100 years old. He was still reasonably sharp the last time I saw him, but that's been a while.
Just checked: he's 96.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (bW8dp)
In reality he's the 2000 year old man.
Yeah, he's about 100 years old. He was still reasonably sharp the last time I saw him, but that's been a while.
Just checked: he's 96.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:08 AM (bW8dp)
In reality he's the 2000 year old man.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (AiZBA)
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The problem is not so much with government or the size or scope. It's the culture that leads it. All cops are bad or rayciss leads to leaders caving to the woke crowd and changing their methods. Police are either neutered or simply can't find the right people, who would want to be a cop now? In turn, we get liberals that think sentencing anyone to a harsh sentence is rayciss too. We're giving reparations to people who don't deserve it, we're giving homeless people our money to insure they stay homeless. Same with the welfare state and victim mentality. So the size of government isn't as important as the culture that drives it. That's what needs to change and is a damn tall order when you have the MFM driving this. All in order for more of the same. So yes it's hard to feel sorry for people to ask for more misery by voting for these people. Will they get "woke" the right way?
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (GwxCX)
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"They keep trying to sneak up on it then peck at crumbs."
They're wise. I once saw a pumpernickel take out four grackles in a fight. Some breads you don't fuck with.
They're wise. I once saw a pumpernickel take out four grackles in a fight. Some breads you don't fuck with.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (MvF+J)
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Odd argument. Republicans should fix up what Dems have destroyed? Sounds like an argument that flyovers exist to bail out their betters, over and over again. Not much of a plan.
I'd frame it differently. Republicans should stop doing the things that Democrats do, which have resulted in our current culture of dependency.
I'd frame it differently. Republicans should stop doing the things that Democrats do, which have resulted in our current culture of dependency.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (eOEVl)
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46 The only thing preventing widespread vigilantism today is the two-tiered system of law. Suddenly the cops have plenty of resources and the DA is "tough on crime" when it comes to hunting vigilantes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (t0OGg)
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Also, outside of the cities, life isn't that chaotic. The chaos is really limited to cities.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (t0OGg)
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Also, outside of the cities, life isn't that chaotic. The chaos is really limited to cities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (LvTSG)
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Mel Brooks is probably the last World War II still alive in Hollywood.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (ZTAGJ)
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You cannot drag an unwilling populous up.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:03 AM (KbCG3)
You cannot make someone lose weight if they don't want to. You cannot make someone quit drinking if they don't want to. You cannot make someone quit smoking if they don't want to.
You cannot fix someone against their will. Mouthing the words won't get it done. You must want the outcome more than the vice.
Same with cities. If they don't really want to improve, they won't and history says that they don't really want to improve.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:03 AM (KbCG3)
You cannot make someone lose weight if they don't want to. You cannot make someone quit drinking if they don't want to. You cannot make someone quit smoking if they don't want to.
You cannot fix someone against their will. Mouthing the words won't get it done. You must want the outcome more than the vice.
Same with cities. If they don't really want to improve, they won't and history says that they don't really want to improve.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (z99Zw)
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not even Batman could save Chicago
Posted by: brak at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (j5Tg0)
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Imo there is nothing you can do about the big cities until they throw the Marxists out of office. It's them who are cutting loose the criminals out on the streets to wreck havoc on ghe population.
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (Ck5SS)
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42 Detroit is still trying to find it.
Dr. Detroit is there to help.
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Detroit died under Coleman Young and his 'get out of eight mile' genocide. Seems to be working its wonders in NYC these days.
Dr. Detroit is there to help.
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Detroit died under Coleman Young and his 'get out of eight mile' genocide. Seems to be working its wonders in NYC these days.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (8Sqzu)
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The government has knowingly and intentionally created the crime that has made America's cities shitholes. Why?
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To protect the grift.
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We're watching that exact same thing happen with the education system. The same people who locked the doors and caused 20 years of regression from their decision to shut down against the parents' wishes are now insisting that the only way to fix it is to give the people who closed the schools a trillion dollars.
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To protect the grift.
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We're watching that exact same thing happen with the education system. The same people who locked the doors and caused 20 years of regression from their decision to shut down against the parents' wishes are now insisting that the only way to fix it is to give the people who closed the schools a trillion dollars.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (ZLyax)
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@31
>>The main problem for GOP candidates in urban counties is the utterly corrupt county boards of elections.
Case in point, Gretechen Whitmar essentially had all of her formidable GOP primary opponents tossed off the ballot and barred from running against her.
But having said that, most elections, in most locales, regardless of party, are, in the parlance, Fortified to one extent or the other.
Or alternatively...
We ain't voting our way out of our predicament because we never voted our way into it in the first place.
>>The main problem for GOP candidates in urban counties is the utterly corrupt county boards of elections.
Case in point, Gretechen Whitmar essentially had all of her formidable GOP primary opponents tossed off the ballot and barred from running against her.
But having said that, most elections, in most locales, regardless of party, are, in the parlance, Fortified to one extent or the other.
Or alternatively...
We ain't voting our way out of our predicament because we never voted our way into it in the first place.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (XFPre)
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It's hard to shake up the munnies when they're abandoning the city for the hinterlands.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (Jg7EG)
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RDS laid a smackdown on Bragg without being overly complementing to Trump.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 20, 2023 11:14 AM (aylmF)
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59 Imo there is nothing you can do about the big cities until they throw the Marxists out of office. It's them who are cutting loose the criminals out on the streets to wreck havoc on ghe population.
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (Ck5SS)
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The only thing Republicans should do is actively work to erode the cities' powers by auditing the voter rolls and student rolls at the schools. Make the counts as accurate as possible as they continue to bleed people.
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 11:13 AM (Ck5SS)
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The only thing Republicans should do is actively work to erode the cities' powers by auditing the voter rolls and student rolls at the schools. Make the counts as accurate as possible as they continue to bleed people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:14 AM (LvTSG)
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Brooks has said for years that he couldn't make comedy in contemporary America, pretty much since Dracula: Dead and Loving It.
Why anyone would think that History of the World Part II would have the kind of satirical bite Brooks had in the late 70s and early 80s was always weird thinking. Of course it was going to be driven by modern comedic sensibilities. Brooks' name was pretty much just a marketing ploy. I doubt he had any creative input that ended up on screen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:04 AM (LvTSG)
Then what he SHOULD'VE done was say "thanks, but no thanks" and not tied his name to it with the reason of "we can't do it in my style, my way, so we can't do it."
It's sad. He sold out at such a late age......
Why anyone would think that History of the World Part II would have the kind of satirical bite Brooks had in the late 70s and early 80s was always weird thinking. Of course it was going to be driven by modern comedic sensibilities. Brooks' name was pretty much just a marketing ploy. I doubt he had any creative input that ended up on screen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:04 AM (LvTSG)
Then what he SHOULD'VE done was say "thanks, but no thanks" and not tied his name to it with the reason of "we can't do it in my style, my way, so we can't do it."
It's sad. He sold out at such a late age......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)
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NBC10, Philadelphia
LIVE: $9.2M Settlement Reached in 2020 Philly Protests Where Tear Gas Was Deployed
A multimillion dollar settlement has been reached in a case involving police use of force on protestors who marched on I-676 and through West Philly in Spring 2020
By Hayden Mitman • Published 5 mins ago • Updated seconds ago
In part, "This settlement concerns four cases that emerged from the conduct of officers on May 31 and June 1 of 2020, during protests following the death of George Floyd at the hands of police officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
The City will need to pay a total of $9,250,000, the attorneys said, to "those harmed by the PPD’s conduct."
Surprised? Don't be because it's J&J's play yard.
LIVE: $9.2M Settlement Reached in 2020 Philly Protests Where Tear Gas Was Deployed
A multimillion dollar settlement has been reached in a case involving police use of force on protestors who marched on I-676 and through West Philly in Spring 2020
By Hayden Mitman • Published 5 mins ago • Updated seconds ago
In part, "This settlement concerns four cases that emerged from the conduct of officers on May 31 and June 1 of 2020, during protests following the death of George Floyd at the hands of police officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
The City will need to pay a total of $9,250,000, the attorneys said, to "those harmed by the PPD’s conduct."
Surprised? Don't be because it's J&J's play yard.
Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (GshMh)
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Major city resident, groaning under decades of high crime, high taxes (if they pay any), squalor, disfunction, corruption and decay:
"I can't vote for Republicans, they are racists."
Full stop. There is no use proposing "solutions" to the cities until that is changed.
"I can't vote for Republicans, they are racists."
Full stop. There is no use proposing "solutions" to the cities until that is changed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (vGwDa)
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this country cannot survive if our major cities are all dystopian wastelands
Why not?
I can't think of anything I can't get from outside a major city that is necessary for survival.
The don't grow crops, supply water or electricity, or produce tangible goods.
They sometimes provide the medical facilities that service outlying rural communities, but that's really just for the profit incentive of the hospitals that want to be closer to pockets of population. A series of rural medical centers for triage coupled with surgery centers scattered throughout rural communities could easily replace them.
The cities, as near as I can tell, basically are centers of government buildings, corporate headquarters, entertainment hubs (sports and arts) and service retail to cater to them.
None of those things are necessary to survive. The only thing that has stopped city governments from going full-scale warfare on rural America is that the hapless inhabitants of cities can't even feed themselves.
They are, essentially, 16 megaton babies sucking the sustenance off of a frail mother that is growing sick of them and considering shaking them to their untimely end.
Why not?
I can't think of anything I can't get from outside a major city that is necessary for survival.
The don't grow crops, supply water or electricity, or produce tangible goods.
They sometimes provide the medical facilities that service outlying rural communities, but that's really just for the profit incentive of the hospitals that want to be closer to pockets of population. A series of rural medical centers for triage coupled with surgery centers scattered throughout rural communities could easily replace them.
The cities, as near as I can tell, basically are centers of government buildings, corporate headquarters, entertainment hubs (sports and arts) and service retail to cater to them.
None of those things are necessary to survive. The only thing that has stopped city governments from going full-scale warfare on rural America is that the hapless inhabitants of cities can't even feed themselves.
They are, essentially, 16 megaton babies sucking the sustenance off of a frail mother that is growing sick of them and considering shaking them to their untimely end.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (40DMX)
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Citizens you sound very gloomy.
Friend computer recommends, strongly recommends, that in addition to your kibble ration you take a Magic Happy Pill three times daily. You will feel so much better! And remember non-compliance is punishable by termination. Have a better day!
Posted by: Friend Computer at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (6hhYd)
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Same argument I always made during debate in college.
If the punishment isn't bad enough to deter the crime, you'll get more crime.
None of this ever gets fixed until someone cowers in fear of what happens when they commit crimes. The whole 'racist' argument for our criminal justice system was always intended to bring about this very situations.
Cloward Piven doctrine.
If the punishment isn't bad enough to deter the crime, you'll get more crime.
None of this ever gets fixed until someone cowers in fear of what happens when they commit crimes. The whole 'racist' argument for our criminal justice system was always intended to bring about this very situations.
Cloward Piven doctrine.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (5xURv)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)
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Some breads you don't fuck with.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (MvF+J)
Plus...it's moldy.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (MvF+J)
Plus...it's moldy.
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (AwYPR)
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Trying to pretend that big blue cities have libertarian police policies is really dishonest. Libertarian policing policies would be everyone carrying a gun and defending their homes and neighborhoods. These big blue cities have massive and overbearing police forces that come down primarily on stopping the good guys from defending themselves.
Posted by: DocMerlin at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (jRh4q)
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Also, outside of the cities, life isn't that chaotic. The chaos is really limited to cities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (LvTSG)
But it is coming to the suburbs and smaller towns quicker than people realize. My NH town of 35k people is rapidly descending into chaos. The addicts and homeless are coming in droves for the free food and shelter. Arrests? Sure, but the suspects are then released on PR and are back on the streets in less time than it takes the cop to finish the paperwork.
Also, outside of the cities, life isn't that chaotic. The chaos is really limited to cities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (LvTSG)
But it is coming to the suburbs and smaller towns quicker than people realize. My NH town of 35k people is rapidly descending into chaos. The addicts and homeless are coming in droves for the free food and shelter. Arrests? Sure, but the suspects are then released on PR and are back on the streets in less time than it takes the cop to finish the paperwork.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (N39Ws)
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Sorry to interrupt your civil war argument.
>I suspect we'll have another one soon.
Yes.
Oh wait you meant an argument.
Uh yes.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
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No, you caught the joke.
>I suspect we'll have another one soon.
Yes.
Oh wait you meant an argument.
Uh yes.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
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No, you caught the joke.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (ZLyax)
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> Even if tamed, their residents will never be educable.
There's always the "remove them from society permanently" option. You don't have to kill them. Institute a one-strike rule, and allocate a chunk of land out in Nevada or Utah (say, one of the former NBC test ranges), put up about five layers of high-voltage fences patrolled by armed motion sensor drones and run in a water pipeline. Once or twice a year, fly over and drop a load of garden seeds.
If they riot and destroy their water system? Oh well.
If they set up a system of slavery with some of them toiling as peasants to grow food for the baddest mofos, and others being used as meat animals for the baddest mofos? Oh well.
They want to live without the rules of civilized society? Let 'em.
There's always the "remove them from society permanently" option. You don't have to kill them. Institute a one-strike rule, and allocate a chunk of land out in Nevada or Utah (say, one of the former NBC test ranges), put up about five layers of high-voltage fences patrolled by armed motion sensor drones and run in a water pipeline. Once or twice a year, fly over and drop a load of garden seeds.
If they riot and destroy their water system? Oh well.
If they set up a system of slavery with some of them toiling as peasants to grow food for the baddest mofos, and others being used as meat animals for the baddest mofos? Oh well.
They want to live without the rules of civilized society? Let 'em.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (bW8dp)
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75 But it is coming to the suburbs and smaller towns quicker than people realize. My NH town of 35k people is rapidly descending into chaos. The addicts and homeless are coming in droves for the free food and shelter. Arrests? Sure, but the suspects are then released on PR and are back on the streets in less time than it takes the cop to finish the paperwork.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (N39Ws)
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Well...New England...
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (N39Ws)
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Well...New England...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (LvTSG)
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (us2H3)
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The problem is that the criminals and thugs are a major Democrat voting bloc. The law won't touch them, because it can't.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (p+1gI)
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Needs more hot naked chick art
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (/6ur0)
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44 Willowed:
For what it's worth, I'm hearing that History of the World Part II is woke shit.......
Plus it has Seth Rogen in it, so I won't be seeing it anyway.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)
There isn't a single laugh or even a smile in the trailer.
Just coma inducing, lame-ass, woke posturing.
If that's your thing, enjoy!
Posted by: naturalfake at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (L1tQx)
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I caught the tail end of one episode. They actually had a "Hitler on ice" bit as promised from the original movie. It was painfully unfunny.
For what it's worth, I'm hearing that History of the World Part II is woke shit.......
Plus it has Seth Rogen in it, so I won't be seeing it anyway.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)
There isn't a single laugh or even a smile in the trailer.
Just coma inducing, lame-ass, woke posturing.
If that's your thing, enjoy!
Posted by: naturalfake at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (L1tQx)
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I caught the tail end of one episode. They actually had a "Hitler on ice" bit as promised from the original movie. It was painfully unfunny.
Posted by: No One Of Consequence at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (uPgE/)
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The only thing preventing widespread vigilantism today is the two-tiered system of law. Suddenly the cops have plenty of resources and the DA is "tough on crime" when it comes to hunting vigilantes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (t0OGg)
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Which is where organized crime comes in. They pay off the local law to look the other way for their own dirty dealings. Then they impose their own order on the neighborhood. You can go to them for help, but they charge a steep price.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (t0OGg)
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Which is where organized crime comes in. They pay off the local law to look the other way for their own dirty dealings. Then they impose their own order on the neighborhood. You can go to them for help, but they charge a steep price.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2023 11:17 AM (YIVH2)
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I wonder if they don't recognize the bigger pieces as edible. Maybe they only conceptualize food as being sort of "crumb size."
I think I should go out there and tear them into smaller pieces.
I think I should go out there and tear them into smaller pieces.
Posted by: Robert at March 20, 2023 11:17 AM (TeTpz)
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If Republicans ever get control of shitholes like Chicago and Baltimore, they'll sorely regret not having the Dems to blame for them anymore. Those cities cannot be tamed without military force. Even if tamed, their residents will never be educable.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (MvF+J)
Send them to the off-world colonies.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:09 AM (MvF+J)
Send them to the off-world colonies.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2023 11:17 AM (tkR6S)
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"People Live Here"
Why give an invitation for rape, pillage and burning?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)
Assumption is the people can read.
Why give an invitation for rape, pillage and burning?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)
Assumption is the people can read.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2023 11:17 AM (anj39)
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> "People Live Here"
Reminds me of those stupid white college kids yelling "We're on your side!" at the Burn, Loot, Murder rioters out in the street, right after one of them had been clocked in the head with a brick.
Reminds me of those stupid white college kids yelling "We're on your side!" at the Burn, Loot, Murder rioters out in the street, right after one of them had been clocked in the head with a brick.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:17 AM (bW8dp)
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.... we conservatives may take some schadenfreude in watching cities suffer from their far-left policies, this country cannot survive if our major cities are all dystopian wastelands.
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Meh, let them stand as Cultural Chernobyls, Cautionary Tales, and Memorials to the Destructive Nihilistic Idiocy of Crony Collectivism.
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Meh, let them stand as Cultural Chernobyls, Cautionary Tales, and Memorials to the Destructive Nihilistic Idiocy of Crony Collectivism.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (vjUoM)
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The only silver lining from the Plandemic is that no one really needs to live in a fucking city. Let them die in their own filth.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (8Sqzu)
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And the Think Tanks, don't
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (/6ur0)
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When you're alone and life is making you lonely
You can always go downtown
When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help, I know, downtown
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BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! There, your worries are over.
You can always go downtown
When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help, I know, downtown
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BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! There, your worries are over.
Posted by: Downtown at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (fs1hN)
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If not, what is the conservative prescription to rescue our failed cities?
Gasoline and matches?
The Donk commie cocksuckers turned the cities into shitholes, I see little need to play janitor for them.
If not, what is the conservative prescription to rescue our failed cities?
Gasoline and matches?
The Donk commie cocksuckers turned the cities into shitholes, I see little need to play janitor for them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (n+4am)
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89 The only silver lining from the Plandemic is that no one really needs to live in a fucking city. Let them die in their own filth.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (8Sqzu)
Endorsed.
Get out of the cities.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (8Sqzu)
Endorsed.
Get out of the cities.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (/6ur0)
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88 .... we conservatives may take some schadenfreude in watching cities suffer from their far-left policies, this country cannot survive if our major cities are all dystopian wastelands.
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Have you driven through the Rust Belt?
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Have you driven through the Rust Belt?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (8Sqzu)
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After many months of constant visual bombardment, cuing and suggestion, I have decided to write a full confession:
It's me. I have the toe fungus.
Signed,
Miss Issippi
It's me. I have the toe fungus.
Signed,
Miss Issippi
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 11:19 AM (sI15f)
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Also, outside of the cities, life isn't that chaotic. The chaos is really limited to cities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (LvTSG)
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This is largely true for now and I hope it stays that way, but I saw how the rot radiates from the city proper into the suburbs when I was in Denver. Vagrancy and drugs extended from Denver Proper out along the highways. The rot followed the interstate corridor into my end of town (the west side). When I pulled up stakes got the hell out, there had been a vagrant camp at the highway interchange 3.5 miles from my apartment. The quarter mile around the highway was decaying fast. Now, does that mean that the rot would never extend the couple more miles up to my neighborhood? Maybe. The highway is convenient and there's stuff there. But it's too close for comfort and it happened pretty fast. That camp showed up in 2019 and was rousted and cleared. A few months later, it came back bigger and wasn't cleared. It rooted in and then the area around it began to fester.
I don't know if this is normal outside of Denver or not, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:12 AM (LvTSG)
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This is largely true for now and I hope it stays that way, but I saw how the rot radiates from the city proper into the suburbs when I was in Denver. Vagrancy and drugs extended from Denver Proper out along the highways. The rot followed the interstate corridor into my end of town (the west side). When I pulled up stakes got the hell out, there had been a vagrant camp at the highway interchange 3.5 miles from my apartment. The quarter mile around the highway was decaying fast. Now, does that mean that the rot would never extend the couple more miles up to my neighborhood? Maybe. The highway is convenient and there's stuff there. But it's too close for comfort and it happened pretty fast. That camp showed up in 2019 and was rousted and cleared. A few months later, it came back bigger and wasn't cleared. It rooted in and then the area around it began to fester.
I don't know if this is normal outside of Denver or not, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:19 AM (t0OGg)
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Then what he SHOULD'VE done was say "thanks, but no thanks" and not tied his name to it with the reason of "we can't do it in my style, my way, so we can't do it."
It's sad. He sold out at such a late age......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)
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Perhaps it was a Michael Caine thing - "I've never seen Jaws 4, but I've seen the house the check from it paid for"
It's sad. He sold out at such a late age......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)
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Perhaps it was a Michael Caine thing - "I've never seen Jaws 4, but I've seen the house the check from it paid for"
Posted by: No One Of Consequence at March 20, 2023 11:19 AM (uPgE/)
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Sure, some residents call for reforms like you mentioned but it appears to me that a very large portion of the broken urban culture folks truly are unable to connect their repeated election of thieves and grifters with the destruction of the place where they live.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2023 11:06 AM (OQM6D)
You see it all the time from people who live in NYC. Sure, I could leave but what about 2am Thai food? Well, if middle of the night takeout is the most important thing on your wishlist ... you've got the city you want.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 20, 2023 11:06 AM (OQM6D)
You see it all the time from people who live in NYC. Sure, I could leave but what about 2am Thai food? Well, if middle of the night takeout is the most important thing on your wishlist ... you've got the city you want.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (z99Zw)
99
When you're alone and life is making you lonely
You can always go downtown
When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help, I know, downtown
Eastside meets westside downtown.
They're building empires.
You can always go downtown
When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help, I know, downtown
Eastside meets westside downtown.
They're building empires.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)
100
91 When you're alone and life is making you lonely
You can always go downtown
When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help, I know, downtown
____
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! There, your worries are over.
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Snort. But Petuella was singing about an all white London.
You can always go downtown
When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help, I know, downtown
____
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! There, your worries are over.
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Snort. But Petuella was singing about an all white London.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (8Sqzu)
101
this country cannot survive if our major cities are all dystopian wastelands
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What if we wall the cities in? Its worth a try.
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What if we wall the cities in? Its worth a try.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (sX1BW)
102
Reality?
National guard
Strict curfews
Incredibly strong punishment for crimes
Forced hard labor
Death sentence for murder
Charles Bronson
Clint Eastwood
National guard
Strict curfews
Incredibly strong punishment for crimes
Forced hard labor
Death sentence for murder
Charles Bronson
Clint Eastwood
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (5xURv)
103
If not, what is the conservative prescription to rescue our failed cities?
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I've been saying since at least 2020 that I think blacks have been trying for decades to vote themselves out of the sh*thole plantations that the Democrats have surrounded them with, but they haven't been allowed to use voting as an option.
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I've been saying since at least 2020 that I think blacks have been trying for decades to vote themselves out of the sh*thole plantations that the Democrats have surrounded them with, but they haven't been allowed to use voting as an option.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (ZLyax)
104
The only way out of the current condition for a place like Chicago, or any other large urban area, is for someone like El Salvador President Bukele to be allowed to takeover, with enough raw firepower to impose strict martial law for at least 10 years. Elections in such areas would have to be suspended for at least 10 years, or until the purges take hold. Not joking - I see no other way out for them.
And if they do not do that, then they will just rot and decay and die. Like Detroit already has, and Baltimore and St. Louis are doing.
And if they do not do that, then they will just rot and decay and die. Like Detroit already has, and Baltimore and St. Louis are doing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (trdmm)
105
>The only thing preventing widespread vigilantism today is the two-tiered system of law. Suddenly the cops have plenty of resources and the DA is "tough on crime" when it comes to hunting vigilantes.
There was a Portland bartender who was attacked by a homeless man, and shot him. The DA prosecuted and the bartender committed suicide rather than go through the meat-grinder court system.
I think Gen Z is going to be like the mortician in The Godfather. And the generation after that is going to mold and create legitimate justice within the system. All of this is much slower than anyone wants, and too slow to be of any help to us.
No one told me that studying history and society was going to be painful.
There was a Portland bartender who was attacked by a homeless man, and shot him. The DA prosecuted and the bartender committed suicide rather than go through the meat-grinder court system.
I think Gen Z is going to be like the mortician in The Godfather. And the generation after that is going to mold and create legitimate justice within the system. All of this is much slower than anyone wants, and too slow to be of any help to us.
No one told me that studying history and society was going to be painful.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (44ww/)
106
80 The problem is that the criminals and thugs are a major Democrat voting bloc. The law won't touch them, because it can't.
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Not sure that criminals and thugs bother to vote. They have proxies in the government workers' union provide that service for them though.
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Not sure that criminals and thugs bother to vote. They have proxies in the government workers' union provide that service for them though.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (fs1hN)
107
If not, what is the conservative prescription to rescue our failed cities?
Gasoline and matches?
You asked for it..........
https://youtu.be/UiqBbx0wb0U
Gasoline and matches?
You asked for it..........
https://youtu.be/UiqBbx0wb0U
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)
108
95 After many months of constant visual bombardment, cuing and suggestion, I have decided to write a full confession:
It's me. I have the toe fungus.
Signed,
Miss Issippi
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 11:19 AM (sI15f
Get someone to pee on them. That works also for jellyfish.
It's me. I have the toe fungus.
Signed,
Miss Issippi
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 11:19 AM (sI15f
Get someone to pee on them. That works also for jellyfish.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (5xURv)
109
They want to live without the rules of civilized society? Let 'em.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (bW8dp)
++++
Coventry.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (bW8dp)
++++
Coventry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (t0OGg)
110
103 I've been saying since at least 2020 that I think blacks have been trying for decades to vote themselves out of the sh*thole plantations that the Democrats have surrounded them with, but they haven't been allowed to use voting as an option.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (ZLyax)
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Political machines are first and foremost interested with securing and extending political power. You have control over every voting apparatus in the city? Well, who cares about the actual governance part of government. It's now about in-fighting among factions of the party in control. Nothing else matters.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (ZLyax)
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Political machines are first and foremost interested with securing and extending political power. You have control over every voting apparatus in the city? Well, who cares about the actual governance part of government. It's now about in-fighting among factions of the party in control. Nothing else matters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (LvTSG)
111
Well...New England...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (LvTSG)
some of New England is nirvana
I love where I live and I'm a super redneck
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (LvTSG)
some of New England is nirvana
I love where I live and I'm a super redneck
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (us2H3)
112
> Sure, I could leave but what about 2am Thai food?
On the other hand, the people running the 2am Thai joint are unlikely to be the ones doing the burning, looting, and murdering.
On the other hand, the people running the 2am Thai joint are unlikely to be the ones doing the burning, looting, and murdering.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (bW8dp)
113
The blame for crime is squarely upon the criminals. Dead white racists like LBJ don't make them do it, and live white racists like DeBlasio don't make them do it.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (ZTAGJ)
115
Jack Benny was in many movies starting in '28. To Be or Not to Be was '42.
Posted by: James Monroe Fact-Check. at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (wrJpE)
116
Representative Democracy is not a viable form of government for places in which a voting majority are thieves, felons, grifters, and addicts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (trdmm)
117
After many months of constant visual bombardment, cuing and suggestion, I have decided to write a full confession:
It's me. I have the toe fungus.
Signed,
Miss Issippi
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 11:19 AM (sI15f
Get someone to pee on them. That works also for jellyfish.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (5xURv)
Jellyfish confirmed for pee fetish
It's me. I have the toe fungus.
Signed,
Miss Issippi
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 20, 2023 11:19 AM (sI15f
Get someone to pee on them. That works also for jellyfish.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (5xURv)
Jellyfish confirmed for pee fetish
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (/6ur0)
118
102 Reality?
National guard
Strict curfews
Incredibly strong punishment for crimes
Forced hard labor
Death sentence for murder
Charles Bronson
Clint Eastwood
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So Singapore. The only civilized multiracial/ethnic state in the world. Comes with a lot of hard ass cops.
National guard
Strict curfews
Incredibly strong punishment for crimes
Forced hard labor
Death sentence for murder
Charles Bronson
Clint Eastwood
---------------------
So Singapore. The only civilized multiracial/ethnic state in the world. Comes with a lot of hard ass cops.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:23 AM (8Sqzu)
119
Free and unlimited Fentanyl laced Tranq liberates major urban centers.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 11:23 AM (DMyTF)
120
115 Jack Benny was in many movies starting in '28. To Be or Not to Be was '42.
Posted by: James Monroe Fact-Check. at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (wrJpE)
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Yeah, it's not his first. I mixed up a couple of factoids.
Posted by: James Monroe Fact-Check. at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (wrJpE)
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Yeah, it's not his first. I mixed up a couple of factoids.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:23 AM (LvTSG)
121
They're building empires.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)
Lookit this guy playing with fire.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)
Lookit this guy playing with fire.
Posted by: spindrift at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (h5TKJ)
122
Amazon Prepares To Fire Another 9,000 Workers
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (RHGPo)
123
Jellyfish confirmed for pee fetish
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (/6ur0)
Our lawyers will be in touch!
Jellyfish confirmed for pee fetish
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (/6ur0)
Our lawyers will be in touch!
Posted by: Trump Russian Piss Hookers at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)
124
There's a piece out today about the failed state we created in Iraq, starting 20 years ago. Our greatest error was in thinking that culture, and the people who lived in it, had the social structure and moral character to *ever* be able to handle any kind of self government - they don't. They never will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
125
When you want to get raped by a subhuman ape
You can always go downtown
When you want to get mugged by a sleazebag on drugs
You can always go downtown
You can always go downtown
When you want to get mugged by a sleazebag on drugs
You can always go downtown
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (bW8dp)
126
They want to live without the rules of civilized society? Let 'em.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (bW8dp)
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Coventry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Dresden.
They want to live without the rules of civilized society? Let 'em.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (bW8dp)
++++
Coventry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Dresden.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (n+4am)
127
Okay, I went and crumbled it all up into much smaller pieces and now the grackals are really going to town.
Still leery about the bigger pieces.
Still leery about the bigger pieces.
Posted by: Robert at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (TeTpz)
128
That camp showed up in 2019 and was rousted and cleared. A few months later, it came back bigger and wasn't cleared. It rooted in and then the area around it began to fester.
I don't know if this is normal outside of Denver or not, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023
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Our so-called "mayor" keeps promising to clear out the homeless encampments under the Interstate and the expressway that connects to it. So far, nothing has changed. Every day I see a tent pitched alongside the ramp I take to the bridge over the river.
I don't know if this is normal outside of Denver or not, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023
***
Our so-called "mayor" keeps promising to clear out the homeless encampments under the Interstate and the expressway that connects to it. So far, nothing has changed. Every day I see a tent pitched alongside the ramp I take to the bridge over the river.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (J2vNu)
129
The goal of socialism is communism.
Every society is three meals from chaos.
Terror is an instrument of social hygiene.
- Things Lenin said.
Every society is three meals from chaos.
Terror is an instrument of social hygiene.
- Things Lenin said.
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (gmo/4)
130
Lookit this guy playing with fire.
Posted by: spindrift at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (h5TKJ)
"They got me once. They'll never get me again....."
Lookit this guy playing with fire.
Posted by: spindrift at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (h5TKJ)
"They got me once. They'll never get me again....."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)
131
Political machines are first and foremost interested with securing and extending political power. You have control over every voting apparatus in the city? Well, who cares about the actual governance part of government. It's now about in-fighting among factions of the party in control. Nothing else matters.
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Eventually money will pour into these cities, money that will be tied to ending crime - at least ending crime in the parts that matter. That will be the incentive to tame these cities.
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Eventually money will pour into these cities, money that will be tied to ending crime - at least ending crime in the parts that matter. That will be the incentive to tame these cities.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (sX1BW)
132
I've been saying since at least 2020 that I think blacks have been trying for decades to vote themselves out of the sh*thole plantations that the Democrats have surrounded them with, but they haven't been allowed to use voting as an option.
Ah, so we're back to the "They're victims" mentality.
Ah, so we're back to the "They're victims" mentality.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (eOEVl)
133
"no one really needs to live in a fucking city."
Some people can't afford to move out. And no matter where you move, the bad people will eventually follow, unless the place you move to has laws that keep bad people out. Don't have those laws, anymore.
Some people can't afford to move out. And no matter where you move, the bad people will eventually follow, unless the place you move to has laws that keep bad people out. Don't have those laws, anymore.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (MvF+J)
Posted by: BLM at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (WmGrA)
135
111
some of New England is nirvana
I love where I live and I'm a super redneck
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (us2H3)
The plandemic and the work-from-home rules pushed a lot of libtards from blue areas to relocate to vacation homes - turning NH from purple to blue.
some of New England is nirvana
I love where I live and I'm a super redneck
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 11:21 AM (us2H3)
The plandemic and the work-from-home rules pushed a lot of libtards from blue areas to relocate to vacation homes - turning NH from purple to blue.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (N39Ws)
136
122 Amazon Prepares To Fire Another 9,000 Workers
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Disney is laying off around 10K. Good Times.
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Disney is laying off around 10K. Good Times.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (8Sqzu)
137
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So Singapore. The only civilized multiracial/ethnic state in the world. Comes with a lot of hard ass cops.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:23 AM (8Sqzu)
Unless they fear the punishment, there is zero incentive to not commit crimes. And it's not about 'available jobs' or racism.
Crime pays, it's easy money, it comes with ego stroking respect because of people fearing you, it's got a dopamine rush associated with it, etc.
So Singapore. The only civilized multiracial/ethnic state in the world. Comes with a lot of hard ass cops.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:23 AM (8Sqzu)
Unless they fear the punishment, there is zero incentive to not commit crimes. And it's not about 'available jobs' or racism.
Crime pays, it's easy money, it comes with ego stroking respect because of people fearing you, it's got a dopamine rush associated with it, etc.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (5xURv)
138
So Singapore. The only civilized multiracial/ethnic state in the world. Comes with a lot of hard ass cops.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:23 AM (8Sqzu)
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Don't you get caned there just for spitting your gum on the sidewalk? Though, that does sound like a fair punishment as stepping in gum in one of the more annoying First World Problems.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:23 AM (8Sqzu)
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Don't you get caned there just for spitting your gum on the sidewalk? Though, that does sound like a fair punishment as stepping in gum in one of the more annoying First World Problems.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (YIVH2)
139
131 Eventually money will pour into these cities, money that will be tied to ending crime - at least ending crime in the parts that matter. That will be the incentive to tame these cities.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (sX1BW)
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They must be allowed to collapse completely until they are a host of large buildings without tenants or owners. Their political power must be eroded by time, and the state governments should encourage it.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (sX1BW)
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They must be allowed to collapse completely until they are a host of large buildings without tenants or owners. Their political power must be eroded by time, and the state governments should encourage it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (LvTSG)
140
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Yeah, it's not his first. I mixed up a couple of factoids.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:23 AM (LvTSG)
We choose TRUTH over FACTS!
Yeah, it's not his first. I mixed up a couple of factoids.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:23 AM (LvTSG)
We choose TRUTH over FACTS!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)
141
118
'a lot of hard ass cops.'
You beat me to the punch, Pudinhead. I was going to say, skull cracking cops backed by honest city administration and criminal justice.
'a lot of hard ass cops.'
You beat me to the punch, Pudinhead. I was going to say, skull cracking cops backed by honest city administration and criminal justice.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (qVln6)
142
Our greatest error was in thinking that culture
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I thought our greatest error was just not operating the country like a controlled administrative state.
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I thought our greatest error was just not operating the country like a controlled administrative state.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (sX1BW)
143
Our greatest error was in thinking that culture, and the people who lived in it, had the social structure and moral character to *ever* be able to handle any kind of self government - they don't. They never will.
exactly
exactly
Posted by: brak at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (j5Tg0)
144
There's a piece out today about the failed state we created in Iraq, starting 20 years ago. Our greatest error was in thinking that culture, and the people who lived in it, had the social structure and moral character to *ever* be able to handle any kind of self government - they don't. They never will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
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I don't know about never, but it was never going to work the way we tried it. You don't get to try to remake a country according to new rules unless you break that country completely. "Nation-building" can never succeed (and can never be anything more than a blood-soaked fool's errand) without absolute, unquestioned defeat occurring first. Absolute and unquestioned down to every last man in the land. Total victory - which is a prerequisite for "nation building" - requires total war.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
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I don't know about never, but it was never going to work the way we tried it. You don't get to try to remake a country according to new rules unless you break that country completely. "Nation-building" can never succeed (and can never be anything more than a blood-soaked fool's errand) without absolute, unquestioned defeat occurring first. Absolute and unquestioned down to every last man in the land. Total victory - which is a prerequisite for "nation building" - requires total war.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (t0OGg)
145
136 122 Amazon Prepares To Fire Another 9,000 Workers
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Disney is laying off around 10K. Good Times.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (8Sqzu)
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They got what they wanted.
I hope they're happy. I really do.
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Disney is laying off around 10K. Good Times.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (8Sqzu)
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They got what they wanted.
I hope they're happy. I really do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (LvTSG)
146
> *ever* be able to handle any kind of self government - they don't. They never will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
Yeah, the only way to make it work would be to go Full Roman on them, with a dude nailed to a cross every fifty yards along every major road.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
Yeah, the only way to make it work would be to go Full Roman on them, with a dude nailed to a cross every fifty yards along every major road.
Posted by: The Optimates Planning to Prosecute Julius Caesar at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (bW8dp)
147
Korben Dallas: Mr. President, Mr. President, any idea when you gonna be getting to the point?
President Lindberg: O.K. There's a ball of fire, it's 1200 miles in diameter headin straight for Earth, and we have no idea how to stop it. *That's* the problem.
President Lindberg: O.K. There's a ball of fire, it's 1200 miles in diameter headin straight for Earth, and we have no idea how to stop it. *That's* the problem.
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:27 AM (qVln6)
149
VDH has noted this dual reality in Cali for years- illegals drive late model cars without registration or title, yet are not ticketed. Eat and shop at road side food trucks and general stores that are not subject to state and local taxation or registration, work for cash, etc. But if you try to open a Waffle House and buy one egg outside the regulatory structure, the full power of the state will descend upon you like night in the arctic winter.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 20, 2023 11:27 AM (trVDr)
150
Blue shithole city riddled with crime finally elects mayor who promises to "fix" shithole. City council refuses to adopt remedies, citing racism, not inclusive, excludes POC, not ghey friendly enough, etc. Months/years of blue shithole continuing to be shithole. Next mayor wannabe cites current mayor's failures to "fix" shithole.
Rinse
Repeat
Rinse
Repeat
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 20, 2023 11:28 AM (Q4IgG)
151
138 So Singapore. The only civilized multiracial/ethnic state in the world. Comes with a lot of hard ass cops.
also the culture that comes with being mostly Chinese descent with some Malaysian, Indian, and European mixed in
also the culture that comes with being mostly Chinese descent with some Malaysian, Indian, and European mixed in
Posted by: brak at March 20, 2023 11:28 AM (j5Tg0)
Posted by: Escape 2000 at March 20, 2023 11:28 AM (63Dwl)
153
Total victory - which is a prerequisite for "nation building" - requires total war.
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We will defeat Russia in a total war and re-make the country in our likeness. I will not rest until a rainbow flag flies over the Kremlin!
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We will defeat Russia in a total war and re-make the country in our likeness. I will not rest until a rainbow flag flies over the Kremlin!
Posted by: Sen. Lindsey Graham at March 20, 2023 11:28 AM (fs1hN)
154
'Mr. Roach is making similar arguments.'
I'm glad I don't have to go by that name.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:27 AM (qVln6)
"In rebuttal, we have Ashley Roachclip from United Heads for Hemp. Mr. Roachclip."
I'm glad I don't have to go by that name.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:27 AM (qVln6)
"In rebuttal, we have Ashley Roachclip from United Heads for Hemp. Mr. Roachclip."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
155
We will never know about Iraq since Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst sold Baghdad to Tehran.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:28 AM (ZTAGJ)
156
There's less economic purpose for highly urbanized areas these days, I don't think we need to be excessively concerned about coming up with a governing policy for them.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:28 AM (eYoxG)
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Do we have a "death camps" before 100 comments rule?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (Jg7EG)
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So go Downtown,
Tempting your fate, when you're...
Downtown,
Stepping in human manure,
Downtown,
Scum and crime waiting for you...
Downtown, downtown.
So go Downtown,
Tempting your fate, when you're...
Downtown,
Stepping in human manure,
Downtown,
Scum and crime waiting for you...
Downtown, downtown.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (40DMX)
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Jack Benny was in many movies starting in '28. To Be or Not to Be was '42.
Posted by: James Monroe Fact-Check. at March 20, 2023
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The Horn Blows at Midnight was the one people always made jokes about on his TV show. It doesn't seem to be on YooToob, so I guess I didn't see it there. They do have an early '50s TV version with JB, though.
Posted by: James Monroe Fact-Check. at March 20, 2023
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The Horn Blows at Midnight was the one people always made jokes about on his TV show. It doesn't seem to be on YooToob, so I guess I didn't see it there. They do have an early '50s TV version with JB, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (J2vNu)
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When the cops' paychecks start bouncing, the ranks of the vigilantes will begin to swell.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (tkR6S)
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I've been saying since at least 2020 that I think blacks have been trying for decades to vote themselves out of the sh*thole plantations that the Democrats have surrounded them with, but they haven't been allowed to use voting as an option.
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Ah, so we're back to the "They're victims" mentality.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Same as the voters in 2020.
I thought I wrote it clearly.
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Ah, so we're back to the "They're victims" mentality.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Same as the voters in 2020.
I thought I wrote it clearly.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (ZLyax)
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MeetThePress: Dem Sen. Elizabeth Warren likens consideration Of TikTok ban To Roe v. Wade being overturned
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (RHGPo)
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NY too paid off protesters for police not wearing Ckvkd masks in a riot.
It's hard not to get a jury to pay off the Leftists in a Leftist city
It's hard not to get a jury to pay off the Leftists in a Leftist city
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (Ck5SS)
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I thought our greatest error was just not operating the country like a controlled administrative state.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (sX1BW)
Wouldn't have worked, because our bureaucrats were just as corrupt as their bureaucrats - both sets were only interested in looting the country, not running it. Joe Mannix point about Total Victory is correct, but it would have required the death of almost every adult male in the country to rid it of the eternal sunni-shia enmity. Come to think of it, that's what the Romans would do when they conquered a place.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (sX1BW)
Wouldn't have worked, because our bureaucrats were just as corrupt as their bureaucrats - both sets were only interested in looting the country, not running it. Joe Mannix point about Total Victory is correct, but it would have required the death of almost every adult male in the country to rid it of the eternal sunni-shia enmity. Come to think of it, that's what the Romans would do when they conquered a place.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (trdmm)
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162 MeetThePress: Dem Sen. Elizabeth Warren likens consideration Of TikTok ban To Roe v. Wade being overturned
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (RHGPo)
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What does it matter? We're already living Handmaid's Tale.
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (RHGPo)
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What does it matter? We're already living Handmaid's Tale.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (LvTSG)
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144 There's a piece out today about the failed state we created in Iraq, starting 20 years ago. Our greatest error was in thinking that culture, and the people who lived in it, had the social structure and moral character to *ever* be able to handle any kind of self government - they don't. They never will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
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I don't know about never, but it was never going to work the way we tried it. You don't get to try to remake a country according to new rules unless you break that country completely. "Nation-building" can never succeed (and can never be anything more than a blood-soaked fool's errand) without absolute, unquestioned defeat occurring first. Absolute and unquestioned down to every last man in the land. Total victory - which is a prerequisite for "nation building" - requires total war.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (t0OGg)
It's also unclear why it is necessary or desirable to recreate governing structures instead of work with existing ones. During the Surge we worked successfully with many tribes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
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I don't know about never, but it was never going to work the way we tried it. You don't get to try to remake a country according to new rules unless you break that country completely. "Nation-building" can never succeed (and can never be anything more than a blood-soaked fool's errand) without absolute, unquestioned defeat occurring first. Absolute and unquestioned down to every last man in the land. Total victory - which is a prerequisite for "nation building" - requires total war.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:26 AM (t0OGg)
It's also unclear why it is necessary or desirable to recreate governing structures instead of work with existing ones. During the Surge we worked successfully with many tribes.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (eOEVl)
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The only silver lining from the Plandemic is that no one really needs to live in a fucking city. Let them die in their own filth.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (8Sqzu)
Yeah, based on Trudeau raising the carbon tax in Canada, I think farmers should stop shipping food to cities in order to save the planet. Maybe it would give those people a fresh perspective.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:18 AM (8Sqzu)
Yeah, based on Trudeau raising the carbon tax in Canada, I think farmers should stop shipping food to cities in order to save the planet. Maybe it would give those people a fresh perspective.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (z99Zw)
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We will defeat Russia in a total war and re-make the country in our likeness. I will not rest until a rainbow flag flies over the Kremlin!
Posted by: Sen. Lindsey Graham at March 20, 2023 11:28 AM (fs1hN)
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:: shakes Magic 8 Ball ::
:: waits ::
:: taps bubbles away from window ::
"Outlook Not So Good"
Posted by: Sen. Lindsey Graham at March 20, 2023 11:28 AM (fs1hN)
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:: shakes Magic 8 Ball ::
:: waits ::
:: taps bubbles away from window ::
"Outlook Not So Good"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (t0OGg)
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Dem Sen. Elizabeth Warren likens consideration Of TikTok ban To Roe v. Wade being overturned
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (RHGPo)
Dem Sen. Elizabeth Warren is a buttf*ck ignorant scumbag.
Posted by: SMOD at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (RHGPo)
Dem Sen. Elizabeth Warren is a buttf*ck ignorant scumbag.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (Zz0t1)
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Of the 156 Race Riots of 1968, 152 were in the Northeast and Midwest (aka - Yankeeland). In 1969 the Exodus of Yankees from Yankeeland began and has never ended to this day.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (8Sqzu)
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For those of you who imagined that Desantis would let Trump stew, here's the condemnation of Trump's harassment:
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
(Nitter)
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
(Nitter)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (4WgAx)
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The plandemic and the work-from-home rules pushed a lot of libtards from blue areas to relocate to vacation homes - turning NH from purple to blue.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (N39Ws)
we have a very large contingent of NYC weekenders here in the southern berkshires
but somehow, they just come to hang out
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 20, 2023 11:25 AM (N39Ws)
we have a very large contingent of NYC weekenders here in the southern berkshires
but somehow, they just come to hang out
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (us2H3)
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I've been saying since at least 2020 that I think blacks have been trying for decades to vote themselves out of the sh*thole plantations that the Democrats have surrounded them with, but they haven't been allowed to use voting as an option.
I thought I wrote it clearly.
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You failed.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Huh.
I thought I wrote it clearly.
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You failed.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Huh.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (ZLyax)
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"blacks have been trying for decades to vote themselves out of the sh*thole plantations that the Democrats have surrounded them with"
That's a weird take. The way I see it, for decades, blacks have been rioting, burning and looting. Because it works! It gets them the handouts, benefits and political and cultural concessions they demand. Works. Every. Time.
That's a weird take. The way I see it, for decades, blacks have been rioting, burning and looting. Because it works! It gets them the handouts, benefits and political and cultural concessions they demand. Works. Every. Time.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Barack "Gaylord" Obama at March 20, 2023 11:32 AM (bW8dp)
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When the cops' paychecks start bouncing, the ranks of the vigilantes will begin to swell.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (tkR6S)
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They're always last, for exactly that reason. Pay cuts and mass firings hit government as a whole last, but within the government they hit the cops and soldiers last. The civil service will be sacrificed first when the government starts going bankrupt. It always is.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2023 11:29 AM (tkR6S)
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They're always last, for exactly that reason. Pay cuts and mass firings hit government as a whole last, but within the government they hit the cops and soldiers last. The civil service will be sacrificed first when the government starts going bankrupt. It always is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:32 AM (t0OGg)
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The cities, as near as I can tell, basically are centers of government buildings, corporate headquarters, entertainment hubs (sports and arts) and service retail to cater to them.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (40DMX)
They're remnants from a more centrally industrialized era mostly. Some are trade hubs.
Finance centers came from the need to meet in person and the consequent need to live in reasonable proximity, before the invention of modern communications.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:15 AM (40DMX)
They're remnants from a more centrally industrialized era mostly. Some are trade hubs.
Finance centers came from the need to meet in person and the consequent need to live in reasonable proximity, before the invention of modern communications.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (eYoxG)
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There's a piece out today about the failed state we created in Iraq, starting 20 years ago. Our greatest error was in thinking that culture, and the people who lived in it, had the social structure and moral character to *ever* be able to handle any kind of self government - they don't. They never will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
I almost, almost bought a bunch of dinars back then.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
I almost, almost bought a bunch of dinars back then.
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (AwYPR)
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176 > The Horn Blows at Midnight
Did I ever mention that my college nickname was "The Horn"?
Posted by: Barack "Gaylord" Obama
You suck cock every hour of the day.
Did I ever mention that my college nickname was "The Horn"?
Posted by: Barack "Gaylord" Obama
You suck cock every hour of the day.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (jxiqM)
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177 They're always last, for exactly that reason. Pay cuts and mass firings hit government as a whole last, but within the government they hit the cops and soldiers last. The civil service will be sacrificed first when the government starts going bankrupt. It always is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:32 AM (t0OGg)
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"But you need me!"
-Guy who's job is to analyze farm reports for future trends in potential tax policy but who spends most days watching kiddie porn on his government computer
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:32 AM (t0OGg)
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"But you need me!"
-Guy who's job is to analyze farm reports for future trends in potential tax policy but who spends most days watching kiddie porn on his government computer
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (LvTSG)
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>>172 For those of you who imagined that Desantis would let Trump stew, here's the condemnation of Trump's harassment:
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
(Nitter)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarke
Now Nikki Halley's turn but first, she will___________.
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
(Nitter)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarke
Now Nikki Halley's turn but first, she will___________.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (DMyTF)
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> Pay cuts and mass firings hit government as a whole last, but within the government they hit the cops and soldiers last.
Yeah, there was more than one Caesar who could tell you why not paying the soldiers was a Bad Idea. Via Ouija board, maybe.
Yeah, there was more than one Caesar who could tell you why not paying the soldiers was a Bad Idea. Via Ouija board, maybe.
Posted by: The Praetorian Guard at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (bW8dp)
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That's a weird take. The way I see it, for decades, blacks have been rioting, burning and looting. Because it works! It gets them the handouts, benefits and political and cultural concessions they demand. Works. Every. Time.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (MvF+J)
the error - that lumps the activists, who are tools of the Dem party, in with the majority who are not activists or radicals at all. But they stay quiet because the activists, and the Dem Power structure, attacks them personally if they try to fight it. (frex, Clarence Thomas)
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (MvF+J)
the error - that lumps the activists, who are tools of the Dem party, in with the majority who are not activists or radicals at all. But they stay quiet because the activists, and the Dem Power structure, attacks them personally if they try to fight it. (frex, Clarence Thomas)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (trdmm)
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For those of you who imagined that Desantis would let Trump stew, here's the condemnation of Trump's harassment:
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
(Nitter)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (4WgAx)
"I can't speak to paying hush money to a porn star for an alleged sexual affair......"
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
(Nitter)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (4WgAx)
"I can't speak to paying hush money to a porn star for an alleged sexual affair......"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)
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The only thing preventing widespread vigilantism today is the two-tiered system of law. Suddenly the cops have plenty of resources and the DA is "tough on crime" when it comes to hunting vigilantes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (t0OGg)
The biggest thing preventing widespread vigilantism today is that willing vigilantes are few and far between due to their nature. The everyday person who becomes a vigilante needs to be pushed so far out of their comfort zone that you wonder how it ever happens in the first place.
The criminal has no such worry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:11 AM (t0OGg)
The biggest thing preventing widespread vigilantism today is that willing vigilantes are few and far between due to their nature. The everyday person who becomes a vigilante needs to be pushed so far out of their comfort zone that you wonder how it ever happens in the first place.
The criminal has no such worry.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (KbCG3)
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At least cleaning up the schools has started in Texas and that is a good start IMO. The governor has *seized* all public schools in Austin and fired the senior leadership in an attempt to reign in the crt, die and lgtbq++ madness.
It's a start, and it's a start in the right direction. The pendulum always swings back.
It's a start, and it's a start in the right direction. The pendulum always swings back.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (ncXxy)
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Joe Mannix point about Total Victory is correct, but it would have required the death of almost every adult male in the country to rid it of the eternal sunni-shia enmity. Come to think of it, that's what the Romans would do when they conquered a place.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023
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They'd kill most of the men and enslave a few, mostly the women, shipping them to other provinces of the Empire so they couldn't gather in big numbers and plot revolt. Rome never had a major slave revolt after the Spartacus "incident" about 75 years before Christ. Though I expect the fear of being crucified might have had something to do with it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023
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They'd kill most of the men and enslave a few, mostly the women, shipping them to other provinces of the Empire so they couldn't gather in big numbers and plot revolt. Rome never had a major slave revolt after the Spartacus "incident" about 75 years before Christ. Though I expect the fear of being crucified might have had something to do with it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (J2vNu)
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For those of you who imagined that Desantis would let Trump stew, here's the condemnation of Trump's harassment:
That was pitch perfect.
That was pitch perfect.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (eOEVl)
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How do you ban an app? Do you force Apple and Google to remove it from phones?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (63Dwl)
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69 this country cannot survive if our major cities are all dystopian wastelands
Why not? In the past, areas of so many were and yet most survive because they find a way to take & take and get & get. Imagine the glory that will be in Chicago near and around the Presidential Library!
Why not? In the past, areas of so many were and yet most survive because they find a way to take & take and get & get. Imagine the glory that will be in Chicago near and around the Presidential Library!
Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (GshMh)
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Finance centers came from the need to meet in person and the consequent need to live in reasonable proximity, before the invention of modern communications.
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Perhaps. Things don't stay the same forever, but cities have been around for over a thousand years (and longer). They exist for obvious reasons, but also probably for less obvious ones. Modern communications may render them obsolete, but I have my doubts.
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Perhaps. Things don't stay the same forever, but cities have been around for over a thousand years (and longer). They exist for obvious reasons, but also probably for less obvious ones. Modern communications may render them obsolete, but I have my doubts.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (sX1BW)
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175 "blacks have been trying for decades to vote themselves out of the sh*thole plantations that the Democrats have surrounded them with"
Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all Democrat run states, and yet they have the lowest murder rates of any states.
Why is that?
Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all Democrat run states, and yet they have the lowest murder rates of any states.
Why is that?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (40DMX)
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"blacks have been trying for decades to vote themselves out of the sh*thole plantations that the Democrats have surrounded them with"
That's a weird take. The way I see it, for decades, blacks have been rioting, burning and looting. Because it works! It gets them the handouts, benefits and political and cultural concessions they demand. Works. Every. Time.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry
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1) How could you possibly understand what I had written?
2) and more seriously, there is certainly a small percentage of them who see that as a way to take advantage of things. I suspect they're tied directly to the people responsible for the vote fraud.
But for the most part black people - up until Obama decided to fundamentally transform the nation and the relationships in this nation - had the same hopes, dreams, etc. that, as Biden would say, "normal people" have. And yeah, I suspect they were voting to try and end the rioting, looting, violence, etc., too.
That's a weird take. The way I see it, for decades, blacks have been rioting, burning and looting. Because it works! It gets them the handouts, benefits and political and cultural concessions they demand. Works. Every. Time.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry
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1) How could you possibly understand what I had written?
2) and more seriously, there is certainly a small percentage of them who see that as a way to take advantage of things. I suspect they're tied directly to the people responsible for the vote fraud.
But for the most part black people - up until Obama decided to fundamentally transform the nation and the relationships in this nation - had the same hopes, dreams, etc. that, as Biden would say, "normal people" have. And yeah, I suspect they were voting to try and end the rioting, looting, violence, etc., too.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (ZLyax)
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It gets them the handouts, benefits and political and cultural concessions they demand. Works. Every. Time.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (MvF+J)
"We'll get them voting for us for GENERATIONS."
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (MvF+J)
"We'll get them voting for us for GENERATIONS."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)
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Do you force Apple and Google to remove it from phones?
Those two have done it on their own before.
Those two have done it on their own before.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (ZTAGJ)
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151 138 So Singapore. The only civilized multiracial/ethnic state in the world. Comes with a lot of hard ass cops.
also the culture that comes with being mostly Chinese descent with some Malaysian, Indian, and European mixed in
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This is true. I've seen some very salty Marines come back from a Japanese jail with the nicest manners you've ever seen.
also the culture that comes with being mostly Chinese descent with some Malaysian, Indian, and European mixed in
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This is true. I've seen some very salty Marines come back from a Japanese jail with the nicest manners you've ever seen.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (8Sqzu)
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Works. Every. Time.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (MvF+J)
DIY urban renewal.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (MvF+J)
DIY urban renewal.
Posted by: BignJames at March 20, 2023 11:36 AM (AwYPR)
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Victor Davis Hanson makes some related points about life in rural California. People of means are expected to abide by strict building codes, even including the shades of allowable roof shingles. Where illegal immigrants live, electrical wires are strung willy-nilly from old farmhouses to trailers and other ramshackle structures with not a thought toward building structures, because there's no money or prestige in fining the residents.
Also, their dogs run in packs now, and are not vaccinated against rabies or otherwise controlled as they were in the past.
In the case of homeless people in small towns, there is little effort to control where they set up tents, etc., in contrast to parking restrictions for normies. Can't fine them. Costs money to jail them.
Also, their dogs run in packs now, and are not vaccinated against rabies or otherwise controlled as they were in the past.
In the case of homeless people in small towns, there is little effort to control where they set up tents, etc., in contrast to parking restrictions for normies. Can't fine them. Costs money to jail them.
Posted by: KT at March 20, 2023 11:36 AM (rrtZS)
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How are we so sure these “blue” cities actually vote for this?? 2020 opened my eyes…. Dems cheat I’m the big cities; they have done so forever. The Daley machine in Chicago probably threw the 1960 election to JFK
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 20, 2023 11:36 AM (LjeMb)
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It's also unclear why it is necessary or desirable to recreate governing structures instead of work with existing ones. During the Surge we worked successfully with many tribes.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (eYoxG)
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Hubris.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (eYoxG)
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Hubris.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:36 AM (t0OGg)
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Didn't the Romans also encourage their veterans to pension out and settle in the newly conquered lands?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:36 AM (ZTAGJ)
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Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all Democrat run states, and yet they have the lowest murder rates of any states.
Why is that?
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Obviously, this is due to inbreeding.
Why is that?
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Obviously, this is due to inbreeding.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (8Sqzu)
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the error - that lumps the activists, who are tools of the Dem party, in with the majority who are not activists or radicals at all. But they stay quiet because the activists, and the Dem Power structure, attacks them personally if they try to fight it. (frex, Clarence Thomas)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Yep.
Look at The Gays right now. A few of them probably don't want to bang kids, but they've got to keep their mouths shut about the push to normalize it or else they lose membership to the club.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Yep.
Look at The Gays right now. A few of them probably don't want to bang kids, but they've got to keep their mouths shut about the push to normalize it or else they lose membership to the club.
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (ZLyax)
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the error - that lumps the activists, who are tools of the Dem party, in with the majority who are not activists or radicals at all. But they stay quiet because the activists, and the Dem Power structure, attacks them personally if they try to fight it. (frex, Clarence Thomas)
Nope. We have a secret ballot for a reason. Blacks vote 90-95% for Dems, because it pays. They could change things overnight by voting for someone, ANYONE, other than the Democrat.
Nope. We have a secret ballot for a reason. Blacks vote 90-95% for Dems, because it pays. They could change things overnight by voting for someone, ANYONE, other than the Democrat.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (eOEVl)
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Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all Democrat run states, and yet they have the lowest murder rates of any states.
Why is that?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (40DMX)
Maine:
White alone, percent 94.2%
Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all Democrat run states, and yet they have the lowest murder rates of any states.
Why is that?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (40DMX)
Maine:
White alone, percent 94.2%
Posted by: The Census Bureau at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)
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202 Posted by: Paul at March 20, 2023 11:36 AM (yuMfV)
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https://tinyurl.com/2jupnw7a
"Disney executives are being directed to identify thousands of layoff candidates by April as CEO Bob Iger targets $5.5 billion in spending cuts"
This is what a company in great shape does.
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https://tinyurl.com/2jupnw7a
"Disney executives are being directed to identify thousands of layoff candidates by April as CEO Bob Iger targets $5.5 billion in spending cuts"
This is what a company in great shape does.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (LvTSG)
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Greetings:
And, all of a sudden, I'm thinking of the Bronx of the '60s and '70s.
Been there, done that. And I'm not holding my breath.
And, all of a sudden, I'm thinking of the Bronx of the '60s and '70s.
Been there, done that. And I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: 11B40 at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (uuklp)
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For those of you who imagined that Desantis would let Trump stew, here's the condemnation of Trump's harassment:
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
(Nitter)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (4WgAx)
Hardly a condemnation, he did scold the prosecutor but got in a few digs about paying porn star hush money and how he would no nothing about that, got a good laugh for the dig as well.
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
(Nitter)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 20, 2023 11:31 AM (4WgAx)
Hardly a condemnation, he did scold the prosecutor but got in a few digs about paying porn star hush money and how he would no nothing about that, got a good laugh for the dig as well.
Posted by: spypeach at March 20, 2023 11:38 AM (UuB/1)
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"I can't speak to paying hush money to a porn star for an alleged sexual affair......"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)
LOL... He got the porn star stuff in there multiple times......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)
LOL... He got the porn star stuff in there multiple times......
Posted by: It's me donna at March 20, 2023 11:38 AM (bs+z0)
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205 Nope. We have a secret ballot for a reason. Blacks vote 90-95% for Dems, because it pays. They could change things overnight by voting for someone, ANYONE, other than the Democrat.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (eOEVl)
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Unless, hear me out here...the voting mechanisms in places like Baltimore are less than accurate?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (eOEVl)
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Unless, hear me out here...the voting mechanisms in places like Baltimore are less than accurate?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:38 AM (LvTSG)
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In the case of homeless people in small towns, there is little effort to control where they set up tents, etc., in contrast to parking restrictions for normies. Can't fine them. Costs money to jail them.
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Tents are very susceptible to fire bombs. Just sayin.
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Tents are very susceptible to fire bombs. Just sayin.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:38 AM (8Sqzu)
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192 Finance centers came from the need to meet in person and the consequent need to live in reasonable proximity, before the invention of modern communications.
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Perhaps. Things don't stay the same forever, but cities have been around for over a thousand years (and longer). They exist for obvious reasons, but also probably for less obvious ones. Modern communications may render them obsolete, but I have my doubts.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (sX1BW)
No, modern cities have really only been around for a century. Happened largely due to the industrial revolution, population used to be overwhelmingly agrarian.
"Cities" before then have like 50k pop if they're very large, more likely around 20k or so.
Governing centers like Rome or Constantinople were one of the rare other instances of very high population concentrations.
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Perhaps. Things don't stay the same forever, but cities have been around for over a thousand years (and longer). They exist for obvious reasons, but also probably for less obvious ones. Modern communications may render them obsolete, but I have my doubts.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (sX1BW)
No, modern cities have really only been around for a century. Happened largely due to the industrial revolution, population used to be overwhelmingly agrarian.
"Cities" before then have like 50k pop if they're very large, more likely around 20k or so.
Governing centers like Rome or Constantinople were one of the rare other instances of very high population concentrations.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:39 AM (eYoxG)
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The biggest thing preventing widespread vigilantism today is that willing vigilantes are few and far between due to their nature. The everyday person who becomes a vigilante needs to be pushed so far out of their comfort zone that you wonder how it ever happens in the first place.
The criminal has no such worry.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (KbCG3)
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Today, this is absolutely true. As the state loses control of security - real security as well as retributive capability to punish vigilantes - vigilantism grows until it mainstreams. This is fairly common in a lot of the third world. There are vigilante groups that do most of the neighborhood policing and they cooperate with the "legitimate" state authorities when needed. They don't operate in opposition to those authorities, but they do those authorities' jobs because the state has lost control and knows it.
Private security and volunteer "neighborhood watch" organizations are commonplace in such places. South Africa comes immediately to mind.
The criminal has no such worry.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (KbCG3)
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Today, this is absolutely true. As the state loses control of security - real security as well as retributive capability to punish vigilantes - vigilantism grows until it mainstreams. This is fairly common in a lot of the third world. There are vigilante groups that do most of the neighborhood policing and they cooperate with the "legitimate" state authorities when needed. They don't operate in opposition to those authorities, but they do those authorities' jobs because the state has lost control and knows it.
Private security and volunteer "neighborhood watch" organizations are commonplace in such places. South Africa comes immediately to mind.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:39 AM (t0OGg)
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Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all Democrat run states, and yet they have the lowest murder rates of any states.
Why is that?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (40DMX)
What I know you know - Murder is a product of large urban centers in which an underclass thrives. States that don't have any don't have murder problems.
Why is that?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (40DMX)
What I know you know - Murder is a product of large urban centers in which an underclass thrives. States that don't have any don't have murder problems.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:39 AM (trdmm)
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>blacks in particular seem to like Trump's gaudy persona
Trump dresses like a businessman, speaks straight forward easily understood english, has a wife that dresses and behaves like a lady in public, his grown children are successful and always look and act appropriately in public.
What gaudy part of Trump's persona do blacks like more than whites?
Trump dresses like a businessman, speaks straight forward easily understood english, has a wife that dresses and behaves like a lady in public, his grown children are successful and always look and act appropriately in public.
What gaudy part of Trump's persona do blacks like more than whites?
Posted by: old chick at March 20, 2023 11:39 AM (sOete)
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Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all Democrat run states, and yet they have the lowest murder rates of any states.
Why is that?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (40DMX)
Actually NH has a (technically) a GOP Gov. - John Sununu. The state legislature is about split down the middle right vs. left.
The towns towards the seacoast are getting bluer by the day, as are the vacation spots (lakes region, etc.).
Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all Democrat run states, and yet they have the lowest murder rates of any states.
Why is that?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (40DMX)
Actually NH has a (technically) a GOP Gov. - John Sununu. The state legislature is about split down the middle right vs. left.
The towns towards the seacoast are getting bluer by the day, as are the vacation spots (lakes region, etc.).
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 20, 2023 11:39 AM (N39Ws)
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"I can't speak to paying hush money to a porn star for an alleged sexual affair......"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)
LOL... He got the porn star stuff in there multiple times......
Posted by: It's me donna
Heh.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)
LOL... He got the porn star stuff in there multiple times......
Posted by: It's me donna
Heh.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 20, 2023 11:39 AM (jxiqM)
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> It gets them the handouts, benefits and political and cultural concessions they demand. Works. Every. Time.
So does crucifying several thousand rebels along a major highway.
So does crucifying several thousand rebels along a major highway.
Posted by: Marcus Licinius Crassus at March 20, 2023 11:39 AM (bW8dp)
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The problem with every large city is the people who live in them.
Always on the make, looking to scam or get over at every turn, "I know a guy who knows a guy", etc, etc.
Greed, Selfishness, Sloth, Envy run our major cities.
Ain't no politics helping that.
Always on the make, looking to scam or get over at every turn, "I know a guy who knows a guy", etc, etc.
Greed, Selfishness, Sloth, Envy run our major cities.
Ain't no politics helping that.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 20, 2023 11:40 AM (OgB1i)
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Anarchy is always a transition. It can come as a result of collapsing power structure, and it can be created to allow someone to grasp power. Only a limited republic has a chance to maintain the balance and avoid the chaos, and only a properly educated public can maintain a limited republic.
We're screwed.
We're screwed.
Posted by: JJ at March 20, 2023 11:40 AM (VSmYg)
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"Disney executives are being directed to identify thousands of layoff candidates by April as CEO Bob Iger targets $5.5 billion in spending cuts"
I'm disappointed they aren't following noted successful businessman Keith Olbermann's advice.
I'm disappointed they aren't following noted successful businessman Keith Olbermann's advice.
Posted by: spindrift at March 20, 2023 11:40 AM (h5TKJ)
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On electrical building codes in rural California: Not far from us, in one of those compounds for illegals, the black owners of the property had set up some trailers that they rented out to illegals. There was an electrical wire strung to one of them, which a guy used to set the trailer on fire by using an electric skillet on his bed.
Posted by: KT at March 20, 2023 11:40 AM (rrtZS)
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at March 20, 2023 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)
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Hardly a condemnation, he did scold the prosecutor but got in a few digs about paying porn star hush money and how he would no nothing about that, got a good laugh for the dig as well.
What? He called it a politically motivated stunt, and condemned all Soros prosecutors because they're hurting innocent people. He then rightfully pointed out that he was the only governor in the country who has removed a Soros prosecutor.
What? He called it a politically motivated stunt, and condemned all Soros prosecutors because they're hurting innocent people. He then rightfully pointed out that he was the only governor in the country who has removed a Soros prosecutor.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:40 AM (eOEVl)
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But why is the murder rate low? For NH - very few gun laws. NH and Maine are considered constitutional carry.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 20, 2023 11:40 AM (N39Ws)
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"that lumps the activists, who are tools of the Dem party, in with the majority who are not activists or radicals at all."
I watched the Sack of Chicago (and Rockford) in summer 2020. There weren't any 'activists' in those caravans of thieves. They didn't have politics in mind. My guess is none of them even vote. They're opportunistic predators. They see weakness, they exploit it. The only thing that ever kept them in check was fear, and America became ashamed of making them fearful about 90 years ago.
I watched the Sack of Chicago (and Rockford) in summer 2020. There weren't any 'activists' in those caravans of thieves. They didn't have politics in mind. My guess is none of them even vote. They're opportunistic predators. They see weakness, they exploit it. The only thing that ever kept them in check was fear, and America became ashamed of making them fearful about 90 years ago.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:40 AM (MvF+J)
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There's a piece out today about the failed state we created in Iraq, starting 20 years ago. Our greatest error was in thinking that culture, and the people who lived in it, had the social structure and moral character to *ever* be able to handle any kind of self government - they don't. They never will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
Our greatest error was in thinking that they wanted what we have/had.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:24 AM (trdmm)
Our greatest error was in thinking that they wanted what we have/had.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 11:41 AM (z99Zw)
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"Disney executives are being directed to identify thousands of layoff candidates by April as CEO Bob Iger targets $5.5 billion in spending cuts"
This is what a company in great shape does.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (LvTSG)
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Firing the CEO and bringing Iger back wasn't going to prevent the massive layoffs that Chapek was planning. Only a fool though it would.
It *will,* however, change the flavor and makeup of that massive layoff. It is possible that Chapek was going to use a big force reduction as cover to purge the worst activists and activist networks within Disney. There is zero possibility that Iger will use them for that purpose. It's going to be a straight RIF with no ulterior motive.
This is what a company in great shape does.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:37 AM (LvTSG)
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Firing the CEO and bringing Iger back wasn't going to prevent the massive layoffs that Chapek was planning. Only a fool though it would.
It *will,* however, change the flavor and makeup of that massive layoff. It is possible that Chapek was going to use a big force reduction as cover to purge the worst activists and activist networks within Disney. There is zero possibility that Iger will use them for that purpose. It's going to be a straight RIF with no ulterior motive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:41 AM (t0OGg)
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VT has no cities - I mean you can count Burly I guess which does have some crime or so I hear
these massive cities are the problem
they need to be politically neutered (outside their own walls); separate regions without the power to affect the state that hosts them (voting wise)
these massive cities are the problem
they need to be politically neutered (outside their own walls); separate regions without the power to affect the state that hosts them (voting wise)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:41 AM (w0NJk)
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Trump and DeSantis talking about this ginned up arrest defangs the Democrats.
They are mocking the NYC DA. Either the idiot presses on and gets another Fail. Or backs down. He will still lose.
And what does that do to the Democrats' message of fear? Shoots it in the a$$.
They are mocking the NYC DA. Either the idiot presses on and gets another Fail. Or backs down. He will still lose.
And what does that do to the Democrats' message of fear? Shoots it in the a$$.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:41 AM (ZTAGJ)
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229 It *will,* however, change the flavor and makeup of that massive layoff. It is possible that Chapek was going to use a big force reduction as cover to purge the worst activists and activist networks within Disney. There is zero possibility that Iger will use them for that purpose. It's going to be a straight RIF with no ulterior motive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:41 AM (t0OGg)
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Which could mean that these layoffs by Iger won't address any of Disney's major problems, and he's just starting a downward spiral that he won't be willing to start.
And just think...a second season of Willow was going to turn the whole place around.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:41 AM (t0OGg)
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Which could mean that these layoffs by Iger won't address any of Disney's major problems, and he's just starting a downward spiral that he won't be willing to start.
And just think...a second season of Willow was going to turn the whole place around.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:42 AM (LvTSG)
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Unless, hear me out here...the voting mechanisms in places like Baltimore are less than accurate?
Sure, there's some fraud, but when the margin is as large as it is, that's not fraud, that's their preference.
What gaudy part of Trump's persona do blacks like more than whites?
The over-the-top, in-your-face boasting.
Sure, there's some fraud, but when the margin is as large as it is, that's not fraud, that's their preference.
What gaudy part of Trump's persona do blacks like more than whites?
The over-the-top, in-your-face boasting.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:42 AM (eOEVl)
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At least cleaning up the schools has started in Texas and that is a good start IMO. The governor has *seized* all public schools in Austin and fired the senior leadership in an attempt to reign in the crt, die and lgtbq++ madness.
when was this?
they're taking over the Houston schools due to the ridiculous number of failing minority students, but I havent seen anything about Austin
when was this?
they're taking over the Houston schools due to the ridiculous number of failing minority students, but I havent seen anything about Austin
Posted by: brak at March 20, 2023 11:43 AM (j5Tg0)
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What gaudy part of Trump's persona do blacks like more than whites?
my guess is, not being a freakin pussy
my guess is, not being a freakin pussy
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:43 AM (w0NJk)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:43 AM (FVME7)
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Which could mean that these layoffs by Iger won't address any of Disney's major problems, and he's just starting a downward spiral that he won't be willing to start.
And just think...a second season of Willow was going to turn the whole place around.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:42 AM (LvTSG)
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I twill shore up the books while doing nothing to address the underlying problems with Disney's products or brand.
And just think...a second season of Willow was going to turn the whole place around.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:42 AM (LvTSG)
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I twill shore up the books while doing nothing to address the underlying problems with Disney's products or brand.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:43 AM (t0OGg)
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233 Sure, there's some fraud, but when the margin is as large as it is, that's not fraud, that's their preference.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:42 AM (eOEVl)
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Why not? Especially if voters have given up on trying to use the ballot box to initiate change, and they don't show up, leaving precincts empty all voting day while the machine says that everyone voted.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:42 AM (eOEVl)
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Why not? Especially if voters have given up on trying to use the ballot box to initiate change, and they don't show up, leaving precincts empty all voting day while the machine says that everyone voted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:43 AM (LvTSG)
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@207
>>This is what a company in great shape does.
It is ironic that all of ENRON's criminality was hidden in documents and plans with Star Wars inspired titles.
There seem to be a Phantom Thread to all of this.
>>This is what a company in great shape does.
It is ironic that all of ENRON's criminality was hidden in documents and plans with Star Wars inspired titles.
There seem to be a Phantom Thread to all of this.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (sm3rd)
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Now Nikki Halley's turn but first, she will___________.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (DMyTF)
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Kiss Mitch's shell?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (DMyTF)
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Kiss Mitch's shell?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (4WgAx)
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237 I twill shore up the books while doing nothing to address the underlying problems with Disney's products or brand.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:43 AM (t0OGg)
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It's a good thing that the Disney parks are as cheap to run today as they were a year ago.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:43 AM (t0OGg)
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It's a good thing that the Disney parks are as cheap to run today as they were a year ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (LvTSG)
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Unless, hear me out here...the voting mechanisms in places like Baltimore are less than accurate?
Sure, there's some fraud, but when the margin is as large as it is, that's not fraud, that's their preference.
What gaudy part of Trump's persona do blacks like more than whites?
The over-the-top, in-your-face boasting.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:42 AM (eOEVl)
One harkens back to the NBP's standing with billy clubs outside of polling places during Owebama's run. That's because they feared Mitt Romney wasn't going to get a fair shake.......
Sure, there's some fraud, but when the margin is as large as it is, that's not fraud, that's their preference.
What gaudy part of Trump's persona do blacks like more than whites?
The over-the-top, in-your-face boasting.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:42 AM (eOEVl)
One harkens back to the NBP's standing with billy clubs outside of polling places during Owebama's run. That's because they feared Mitt Romney wasn't going to get a fair shake.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)
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Private security and volunteer "neighborhood watch" organizations are commonplace in such places. South Africa comes immediately to mind.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:39 AM (t0OGg)
Good point, and it requires only a little though to see why Charles Bronson "death wish" type vigilantes are so rare. Suppose someone like you or me lives in a place where there is no more public security - it will take a huge amount of time, effort, and risk just to provide some security in the immediate area where one lives. No one in that situation would have the time or resources to go wandering around looking for "bad guys" outside their home turf, with no backup; that's just a fast way to get killed. So-called vigilantism in such circumstances will almost always be defensive, not offensive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:39 AM (t0OGg)
Good point, and it requires only a little though to see why Charles Bronson "death wish" type vigilantes are so rare. Suppose someone like you or me lives in a place where there is no more public security - it will take a huge amount of time, effort, and risk just to provide some security in the immediate area where one lives. No one in that situation would have the time or resources to go wandering around looking for "bad guys" outside their home turf, with no backup; that's just a fast way to get killed. So-called vigilantism in such circumstances will almost always be defensive, not offensive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (trdmm)
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Trump and DeSantis talking about this ginned up arrest defangs the Democrats.
They are mocking the NYC DA. Either the idiot presses on and gets another Fail. Or backs down. He will still lose.
Trump's move to predict his arrest was brilliant. Either the DA has to follow through, which will not end well for him among Joe citizen, or he chickens out, which won't endear him to the left loons.
They are mocking the NYC DA. Either the idiot presses on and gets another Fail. Or backs down. He will still lose.
Trump's move to predict his arrest was brilliant. Either the DA has to follow through, which will not end well for him among Joe citizen, or he chickens out, which won't endear him to the left loons.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (eOEVl)
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Jellyfish confirmed for pee fetish
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:22 AM (/6ur0)
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Posted by: Michael Avanati 2028! at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (GwxCX)
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239 It is ironic that all of ENRON's criminality was hidden in documents and plans with Star Wars inspired titles.
There seem to be a Phantom Thread to all of this.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (sm3rd)
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*throws flag*
Mixing of movie metaphors. 5 yards. Repeat 2nd down.
There seem to be a Phantom Thread to all of this.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (sm3rd)
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*throws flag*
Mixing of movie metaphors. 5 yards. Repeat 2nd down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (LvTSG)
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Taking a crack at the topic itself, I think governing a city is always going to involve corruption. I don't think there's a point in try to prevent it, just to moderate it's spread and to keep it from favoring one political party over another.
Honestly, if Republicans (as distinct from Conservatives or the Right) want to win cities, they need to take them over the way the Democrats did: via Tammany Hall style shenanigans. But Republicans cannot and will not do that. So best bet is to start financing lawfare to get something like a state-level electoral college to remove the importance of cities to state politics.
Honestly, if Republicans (as distinct from Conservatives or the Right) want to win cities, they need to take them over the way the Democrats did: via Tammany Hall style shenanigans. But Republicans cannot and will not do that. So best bet is to start financing lawfare to get something like a state-level electoral college to remove the importance of cities to state politics.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:45 AM (/6ur0)
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Reminiscent of Charlie Sheen saying you pay them to leave.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:43 AM (FVME7)
He has AIDS, so they joke's on them.
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Reminiscent of Charlie Sheen saying you pay them to leave.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:43 AM (FVME7)
He has AIDS, so they joke's on them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)
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Didn't the Romans also encourage their veterans to pension out and settle in the newly conquered lands?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023
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They did. Of course, after the Second Punic War, as the path to empire began, a lot of the lands available were bought up and combined into large cattle-raising latifundia, "ranches." So a lot of veterans, landless, drifted into Rome and other cities and began to live on the dole.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023
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They did. Of course, after the Second Punic War, as the path to empire began, a lot of the lands available were bought up and combined into large cattle-raising latifundia, "ranches." So a lot of veterans, landless, drifted into Rome and other cities and began to live on the dole.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 20, 2023 11:45 AM (J2vNu)
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"And in conclusion, I would do it in the butt."
-The Ladies Man
-The Ladies Man
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:45 AM (/6ur0)
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What Republicans need to offer is city services done right: Policing; Patriotism; Cleanliness; Safety; Usable parks; Schools that teach the “Three Rs”; Anti-vagrancy; Pro-small business; Pro-church; Pro-America. The opportunity is huge because Democrats now oppose all of those building blocks of civilization.
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Couple of points. First all this has to be paid for locally. Otherwise, you are right back where you were.
Second, anti-gun laws must go. You need fewer cops when business owners are encouraged to ventilate thieves.
Limited government isn't anti-government. It's local. Paid for locally. If you tell me a craphole city can't afford parts of a public school program, then they go without that program, or they get innovative.
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Couple of points. First all this has to be paid for locally. Otherwise, you are right back where you were.
Second, anti-gun laws must go. You need fewer cops when business owners are encouraged to ventilate thieves.
Limited government isn't anti-government. It's local. Paid for locally. If you tell me a craphole city can't afford parts of a public school program, then they go without that program, or they get innovative.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 20, 2023 11:45 AM (b306O)
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20th Century “Think Tank Conservatism” Cannot Save Our Cities
But, can it save my bank account, McMansion and decent income for virtually no effort? That's the only real question.
But, can it save my bank account, McMansion and decent income for virtually no effort? That's the only real question.
Posted by: Writers at The Bulwark, Lincoln Project, and the rest of GOP Inc at March 20, 2023 11:45 AM (NjUAj)
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Are the Disney parks in that great of shape? The Star Wars hotel is sinking. Reedy Creek is no more.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:46 AM (ZTAGJ)
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:46 AM (MvF+J)
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'here's the condemnation'
Good, now offer sanctuary in FL and I'll think he did everything he could do.
'here's the condemnation'
Good, now offer sanctuary in FL and I'll think he did everything he could do.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:46 AM (qVln6)
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The only way to fix cities is to make them smaller. Red states should pass legislation limiting the size of cities. Once they reach a certain size they have to break apart.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (sX1BW)
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Why not? Especially if voters have given up on trying to use the ballot box to initiate change, and they don't show up, leaving precincts empty all voting day while the machine says that everyone voted.
Here's a suggestion. Let's assume you are correct. If all blacks in the inner city stayed home, the news would have to cover it. Then, when the Dems start in with their "record turnout of 150%, and every one was a vote for the Dem", you'd know for sure.
Here's a suggestion. Let's assume you are correct. If all blacks in the inner city stayed home, the news would have to cover it. Then, when the Dems start in with their "record turnout of 150%, and every one was a vote for the Dem", you'd know for sure.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (eOEVl)
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My community is adjacent to a democrat-run city with a population of a bit over 150K. That city is imploding as I write this. Crime has skyrocketed within the last three years and the trickle-over effect is beginning to manifest itself where I live. Never thought I'd see this happen but here it is.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (Xrfse)
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Good point, and it requires only a little though to see why Charles Bronson "death wish" type vigilantes are so rare. Suppose someone like you or me lives in a place where there is no more public security - it will take a huge amount of time, effort, and risk just to provide some security in the immediate area where one lives. No one in that situation would have the time or resources to go wandering around looking for "bad guys" outside their home turf, with no backup; that's just a fast way to get killed. So-called vigilantism in such circumstances will almost always be defensive, not offensive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (trdmm)
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The lone vigilante is rare because, as you point out, it is unbelievably risky. Vigilante groups and organizations filling a vacuum left by a failed state security apparatus are much more common. They go out in groups, have a support network, can call for reinforcements from other areas, keep schedules, etc. They usually self-arm and self-supply for the most part, with the organization providing fairly little real infrastructure but a lot of coordination and communication support and escalation/assistance pathways.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (trdmm)
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The lone vigilante is rare because, as you point out, it is unbelievably risky. Vigilante groups and organizations filling a vacuum left by a failed state security apparatus are much more common. They go out in groups, have a support network, can call for reinforcements from other areas, keep schedules, etc. They usually self-arm and self-supply for the most part, with the organization providing fairly little real infrastructure but a lot of coordination and communication support and escalation/assistance pathways.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (t0OGg)
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257 Here's a suggestion. Let's assume you are correct. If all blacks in the inner city stayed home, the news would have to cover it. Then, when the Dems start in with their "record turnout of 150%, and every one was a vote for the Dem", you'd know for sure.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (eOEVl)
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Why would the news have to cover it?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (eOEVl)
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Why would the news have to cover it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (LvTSG)
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Ron Filipkowski wants to get to the bottom of this! Well, not so much the bottom as the front hanging down part.
Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦@RonFilipkowski
Stormy keeps saying he is … less than well-endowed.
The most obvious way to end this case is to just show everyone that she is lying.
Simple
Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦@RonFilipkowski
Stormy keeps saying he is … less than well-endowed.
The most obvious way to end this case is to just show everyone that she is lying.
Simple
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:48 AM (FVME7)
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Our greatest error was in thinking that they wanted what we have/had.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 11:41 AM (z99Zw)
What the Shia wanted was a tool they could use to kill all the Sunni. What the Sunni wanted was a tool they could use to either kill or enslave all of the Shia. That's all either of them were looking to get out of "self-government". And of course, the Grifters took over, and played the two groups off against each other while they stole everyone blind.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 11:41 AM (z99Zw)
What the Shia wanted was a tool they could use to kill all the Sunni. What the Sunni wanted was a tool they could use to either kill or enslave all of the Shia. That's all either of them were looking to get out of "self-government". And of course, the Grifters took over, and played the two groups off against each other while they stole everyone blind.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:48 AM (trdmm)
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Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are all Democrat run states, and yet they have the lowest murder rates of any states.
Why is that?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (40DMX)
Cuz they're freezing ass cold all the time.
"I was gonna go murder a bitch but changed my mind cuz there's ten feet of snow so I stayed home where it's warm."
Why is that?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:35 AM (40DMX)
Cuz they're freezing ass cold all the time.
"I was gonna go murder a bitch but changed my mind cuz there's ten feet of snow so I stayed home where it's warm."
Posted by: Robert at March 20, 2023 11:49 AM (TeTpz)
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Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦@RonFilipkowski
Stormy keeps saying he is … less than well-endowed.
The most obvious way to end this case is to just show everyone that she is lying.
Simple
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:48 AM (FVME7)
Fat, homo and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦@RonFilipkowski
Stormy keeps saying he is … less than well-endowed.
The most obvious way to end this case is to just show everyone that she is lying.
Simple
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:48 AM (FVME7)
Fat, homo and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)
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249 Didn't the Romans also encourage their veterans to pension out and settle in the newly conquered lands?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023
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They did. Of course, after the Second Punic War, as the path to empire began, a lot of the lands available were bought up and combined into large cattle-raising latifundia, "ranches." So a lot of veterans, landless, drifted into Rome and other cities and began to live on the dole.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 20, 2023 11:45 AM (J2vNu)
Which basically recreated the problem that the Gracchus brothers had tried to resolve earlier on and which Marius's reforms had staved off for so long.
The preservation of republics, even more oligarchic ones like the Romans had, requires economic power and consequently political power to be distributed in a certain fashion.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023
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They did. Of course, after the Second Punic War, as the path to empire began, a lot of the lands available were bought up and combined into large cattle-raising latifundia, "ranches." So a lot of veterans, landless, drifted into Rome and other cities and began to live on the dole.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 20, 2023 11:45 AM (J2vNu)
Which basically recreated the problem that the Gracchus brothers had tried to resolve earlier on and which Marius's reforms had staved off for so long.
The preservation of republics, even more oligarchic ones like the Romans had, requires economic power and consequently political power to be distributed in a certain fashion.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:49 AM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (ZTAGJ)
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Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom is back and writing again, this time a trenchant analysis of Trump vs. The Establishment that was triggered by a stupid column written by Charlie "Three Wives" Sykes over at the Bulwark:
https://tinyurl.com/JG-on-Charlie-3W-Sykes
https://tinyurl.com/JG-on-Charlie-3W-Sykes
Posted by: Sharkman at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (IMj0f)
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Why would the news have to cover it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (LvTSG)
And how would they know everyone stayed home?
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Why would the news have to cover it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (LvTSG)
And how would they know everyone stayed home?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)
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Did I ever mention that my college nickname was "The Horn"?
Posted by: Barack "Gaylord" Obama
I have lots of nicknames for you.
Did I ever mention that my college nickname was "The Horn"?
Posted by: Barack "Gaylord" Obama
I have lots of nicknames for you.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (qVln6)
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"Usable parks"
Our park district insists that a part of their mission is to help keep black kids from shooting at everyfucking thing. I guess by offering something that they think is way more fun than shooting at everyfucking thing.
It's not working.
Our park district insists that a part of their mission is to help keep black kids from shooting at everyfucking thing. I guess by offering something that they think is way more fun than shooting at everyfucking thing.
It's not working.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (MvF+J)
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I’m shocked there are some folks here who, after 2020, still apparently think vote fraud only happens on the margins and doesn’t determine outcomes…. What???
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (LjeMb)
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" For those of you who imagined that Desantis would let Trump stew, here's the condemnation of Trump's harassment:
That was pitch perfect."
Yay, 1000 years of conservatopia are on the way!!!
That was pitch perfect."
Yay, 1000 years of conservatopia are on the way!!!
Posted by: DeSantis for Dictator 2024!!! at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (89Sog)
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What happens if this New York DA does try to arrest Trump, and DeSantis orders the Florida Highway Patrol or the Florida National Guard to prevent it?
I know that something similar happened with Orval Faubus back in the '50s, but in that case the Arkansas National Guard decided to obey the feds.
I'm not at all sure that would happen in this instance.
I know that something similar happened with Orval Faubus back in the '50s, but in that case the Arkansas National Guard decided to obey the feds.
I'm not at all sure that would happen in this instance.
Posted by: Marcus Licinius Crassus at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (bW8dp)
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260 257 Here's a suggestion. Let's assume you are correct. If all blacks in the inner city stayed home, the news would have to cover it. Then, when the Dems start in with their "record turnout of 150%, and every one was a vote for the Dem", you'd know for sure.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (eOEVl)
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Why would the news have to cover it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (LvTSG)
I would argue that a version of that already happened in Los Angeles, more than once. Ever since "ballot collectors" were authorized by state law.
Venezuela takes tips from California on how to cheat.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (eOEVl)
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Why would the news have to cover it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:47 AM (LvTSG)
I would argue that a version of that already happened in Los Angeles, more than once. Ever since "ballot collectors" were authorized by state law.
Venezuela takes tips from California on how to cheat.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (trdmm)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (40DMX)
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Thinking Tank never solved anything.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:51 AM (FVME7)
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261 Ron Filipkowski wants to get to the bottom of this! Well, not so much the bottom as the front hanging down part.
Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦@RonFilipkowski
Stormy keeps saying he is … less than well-endowed.
The most obvious way to end this case is to just show everyone that she is lying.
Simple
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:48 AM (FVME7)
Conservatives to Biden: Show us you're not cognitively impaired.
Lefties to Trump: Show us your penis.
Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦@RonFilipkowski
Stormy keeps saying he is … less than well-endowed.
The most obvious way to end this case is to just show everyone that she is lying.
Simple
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:48 AM (FVME7)
Conservatives to Biden: Show us you're not cognitively impaired.
Lefties to Trump: Show us your penis.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:51 AM (KbCG3)
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If all blacks in the inner city stayed home, the news would have to cover it.
lol in what world?!?!
not only do they not bother in Philly now (and this is NEVER reported!) b/c their votes are pre-made and shuttled to the voting locations (which btw are often in private homes?!?!) ... but the actual CENSUS here is totally fake. population of legal citizens of Philly is highly suss - way too high.
lol in what world?!?!
not only do they not bother in Philly now (and this is NEVER reported!) b/c their votes are pre-made and shuttled to the voting locations (which btw are often in private homes?!?!) ... but the actual CENSUS here is totally fake. population of legal citizens of Philly is highly suss - way too high.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:51 AM (w0NJk)
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this country cannot survive if our major cities are all dystopian wastelands
I am not sure that I agree.
I am not sure that I agree.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 20, 2023 11:51 AM (yQpMk)
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>>>It's also unclear why it is necessary or desirable to recreate governing structures instead of work with existing ones. During the Surge we worked successfully with many tribes.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (eYoxG)
>It's a sickness. Hell, these same ass jockeys are trying to do it here in America.
It's the "you break it, you bought it" disease.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (eYoxG)
>It's a sickness. Hell, these same ass jockeys are trying to do it here in America.
It's the "you break it, you bought it" disease.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 11:51 AM (Jg7EG)
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Now Nikki Halley's turn but first, she will___________.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (DMyTF)
(channeling my brother)
Suck the fart outta my ass.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (DMyTF)
(channeling my brother)
Suck the fart outta my ass.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (VwHCD)
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(channeling my brother)
Suck the fart outta my ass.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (VwHCD)
A way with words, that one has......
(channeling my brother)
Suck the fart outta my ass.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (VwHCD)
A way with words, that one has......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (Zz0t1)
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"Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom is back and writing again"
Vainest writer ever! It's funny cuz he sux at it.
Vainest writer ever! It's funny cuz he sux at it.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (MvF+J)
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What happens if this New York DA does try to arrest Trump, and DeSantis orders the Florida Highway Patrol or the Florida National Guard to prevent it?
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We get to be entertained. I don't think that is the plot we are going to see though.
Suspect Trump turns himself in and sort of wants it.
He may not want it exactly, but whatever lemons are served up, he'll find a way of making some entertaining lemonade.
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We get to be entertained. I don't think that is the plot we are going to see though.
Suspect Trump turns himself in and sort of wants it.
He may not want it exactly, but whatever lemons are served up, he'll find a way of making some entertaining lemonade.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (sX1BW)
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Why would the news have to cover it?
When there's an election, the news invariably runs footage of people at the polling places, and breathlessly reports on turnout. You don't think the absence of such coverage would be noticed?
When there's an election, the news invariably runs footage of people at the polling places, and breathlessly reports on turnout. You don't think the absence of such coverage would be noticed?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (eOEVl)
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278 If all blacks in the inner city stayed home, the news would have to cover it.
lol in what world?!?!
not only do they not bother in Philly now (and this is NEVER reported!) b/c their votes are pre-made and shuttled to the voting locations (which btw are often in private homes?!?!) ... but the actual CENSUS here is totally fake. population of legal citizens of Philly is highly suss - way too high.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:51 AM (w0NJk)
What was it that woman said after the last election? Something like, "Everyone knows that the man or woman will be around to collect your ballot and give you your $10."
lol in what world?!?!
not only do they not bother in Philly now (and this is NEVER reported!) b/c their votes are pre-made and shuttled to the voting locations (which btw are often in private homes?!?!) ... but the actual CENSUS here is totally fake. population of legal citizens of Philly is highly suss - way too high.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:51 AM (w0NJk)
What was it that woman said after the last election? Something like, "Everyone knows that the man or woman will be around to collect your ballot and give you your $10."
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 20, 2023 11:53 AM (KbCG3)
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279 this country cannot survive if our major cities are all dystopian wastelands
I am not sure that I agree.
I'm with you G'rumpy
it will happen, maybe, but oh well
I am not sure that I agree.
I'm with you G'rumpy
it will happen, maybe, but oh well
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:53 AM (w0NJk)
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When there's an election, the news invariably runs footage of people at the polling places, and breathlessly reports on turnout. You don't think the absence of such coverage would be noticed?
you literally never see that in Philly media at all
you will see them out in Delco or something reporting at a voting station but not in freaking Logan or really anywhere in the city except the college campuses
you literally never see that in Philly media at all
you will see them out in Delco or something reporting at a voting station but not in freaking Logan or really anywhere in the city except the college campuses
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:54 AM (w0NJk)
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They're remnants from a more centrally industrialized era mostly. Some are trade hubs.
Finance centers came from the need to meet in person and the consequent need to live in reasonable proximity, before the invention of modern communications.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (eYoxG)
In the future, cities will exist because the cricket ranchers will have bands of regulators riding around to put the boot down on anyone who steps onto their ranch.
Finance centers came from the need to meet in person and the consequent need to live in reasonable proximity, before the invention of modern communications.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:33 AM (eYoxG)
In the future, cities will exist because the cricket ranchers will have bands of regulators riding around to put the boot down on anyone who steps onto their ranch.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 11:54 AM (z99Zw)
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> Suspect Trump turns himself in and sort of wants it.
Hmmm... maybe. He's probably braver than I am.
I'd be worried about getting Epsteined if it were me.
Hmmm... maybe. He's probably braver than I am.
I'd be worried about getting Epsteined if it were me.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 11:54 AM (bW8dp)
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A republic contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction, that is, representation.
"Vote for me and I'll make it worth your while."
LBJ knew what he was doing.
"Vote for me and I'll make it worth your while."
LBJ knew what he was doing.
Posted by: davidt at March 20, 2023 11:54 AM (SYTee)
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vote fraud only happens on the margins and doesn’t determine outcomes…. What???
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (LjeMb)
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It's pervasive. Most people have trouble thinking in any terms other than "this is how we've always done it."
I've tried nothin', man, and I'm all out of ideas!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 20, 2023 11:50 AM (LjeMb)
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It's pervasive. Most people have trouble thinking in any terms other than "this is how we've always done it."
I've tried nothin', man, and I'm all out of ideas!
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 20, 2023 11:54 AM (b306O)
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How would the media respond if a porn star, male or female. Barry O. was less than well endowed?
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (eGTCV)
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not only do they not bother in Philly now (and this is NEVER reported!) b/c their votes are pre-made and shuttled to the voting locations (which btw are often in private homes?!?!) ... but the actual CENSUS here is totally fake. population of legal citizens of Philly is highly suss - way too high.
I'd certainly agree that it would be maximally effective if we get rid of MIB. However, even during Covid, there were long lines at polling places. If there were tumbleweeds instead, it would be impossible to cover it up.
I'd certainly agree that it would be maximally effective if we get rid of MIB. However, even during Covid, there were long lines at polling places. If there were tumbleweeds instead, it would be impossible to cover it up.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (eOEVl)
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Ha. Remember when Elijah Cummings was dying in hospice for weeks while homes in his district were being consumed by rats and not a single reporter said a word about his illness or hospice stay?
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (ZLyax)
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280 >>>It's also unclear why it is necessary or desirable to recreate governing structures instead of work with existing ones. During the Surge we worked successfully with many tribes.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (eYoxG)
>It's a sickness. Hell, these same ass jockeys are trying to do it here in America.
It's the "you break it, you bought it" disease.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 11:51 AM (Jg7EG)
The left (and consequently most interventionists since that comes from Wilson) have always fetishized radical and transformational change. The tearing down of old structures to establish some new utopian vision.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:30 AM (eYoxG)
>It's a sickness. Hell, these same ass jockeys are trying to do it here in America.
It's the "you break it, you bought it" disease.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 20, 2023 11:51 AM (Jg7EG)
The left (and consequently most interventionists since that comes from Wilson) have always fetishized radical and transformational change. The tearing down of old structures to establish some new utopian vision.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (eYoxG)
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Saving blue Shithole cities from themselves doesn’t make my priorities list. Detaching from them does; building walls around them does.
Posted by: Republic Theater brought to you by Signature Bank at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (YTBIQ)
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Imma thinking MRAPs and Colander Masks. And lots of .50 caliber machineguns.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (8Sqzu)
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The problem with the promise in the above thread of " good government " Republicans is that it brings big government Republicans the government then gets taken over by "big government" Democrats and then all hell brakes loose
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (dl6++)
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The death punishment, when used sufficiently often, should help.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (84jHt)
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> Ha. Remember when Elijah Cummings was dying in hospice for weeks
At that point he was more of an Elijah Goings.
At that point he was more of an Elijah Goings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (bW8dp)
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Suspect Trump turns himself in and sort of wants it.
He absolutely wants it. This is a gift to his campaign. The Dems want to run against him, not D.
He absolutely wants it. This is a gift to his campaign. The Dems want to run against him, not D.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (eOEVl)
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I have always thought Lizzy Pocahontas would be the first one to open the Gulags
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (Ck5SS)
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285 Why would the news have to cover it?
When there's an election, the news invariably runs footage of people at the polling places, and breathlessly reports on turnout. You don't think the absence of such coverage would be noticed?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (eOEVl)
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Why would the media need to use footage captured then? How often do they use stock footage of election lines? How often do we see any footage of lines in places like Philly that we know are lines in Philly?
Also...how easy would it be for news to just make up turnout numbers for exit polls? How often are exit polls taken in places like Baltimore where the results are assumed (if not known) beforehand? Exit polls are for close races, not races assumed to be over before they begin. And, actual turnout is determined by counted ballots, not exit polls.
You seem to have an interesting view of the media as honest brokers.
When there's an election, the news invariably runs footage of people at the polling places, and breathlessly reports on turnout. You don't think the absence of such coverage would be noticed?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (eOEVl)
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Why would the media need to use footage captured then? How often do they use stock footage of election lines? How often do we see any footage of lines in places like Philly that we know are lines in Philly?
Also...how easy would it be for news to just make up turnout numbers for exit polls? How often are exit polls taken in places like Baltimore where the results are assumed (if not known) beforehand? Exit polls are for close races, not races assumed to be over before they begin. And, actual turnout is determined by counted ballots, not exit polls.
You seem to have an interesting view of the media as honest brokers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (LvTSG)
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297 Saving blue Shithole cities from themselves doesn’t make my priorities list. Detaching from them does; building walls around them does.
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Try that and you are an insurrectionist and have no Civil Rights. See Liz Cheney for the details.
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Try that and you are an insurrectionist and have no Civil Rights. See Liz Cheney for the details.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (8Sqzu)
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When there's an election, the news invariably runs footage of people at the polling places, and breathlessly reports on turnout. You don't think the absence of such coverage would be noticed?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (eOEVl)
And why would they not just just run stock footage from previous elections?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM (eOEVl)
And why would they not just just run stock footage from previous elections?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (tkR6S)
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you will see them out in Delco or something reporting at a voting station but not in freaking Logan or really anywhere in the city except the college campuses
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:54 AM (w0NJk)
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This has been a source of fraud for a long time. I was always confused by voter registration drives on college campuses, and they should be illegal.
Most people who attend a college or university (perhaps not true for community colleges) are not residents. Most of the student body do not live full-time in the jurisdiction where they attend school. The student's residency is usually still where they grew up. Their IDs have that address, their cars are registered at that address, their bank accounts use that address, etc. They are *not* residents and should not be voting in the local elections.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:54 AM (w0NJk)
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This has been a source of fraud for a long time. I was always confused by voter registration drives on college campuses, and they should be illegal.
Most people who attend a college or university (perhaps not true for community colleges) are not residents. Most of the student body do not live full-time in the jurisdiction where they attend school. The student's residency is usually still where they grew up. Their IDs have that address, their cars are registered at that address, their bank accounts use that address, etc. They are *not* residents and should not be voting in the local elections.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (t0OGg)
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I'd certainly agree that it would be maximally effective if we get rid of MIB. However, even during Covid, there were long lines at polling places. If there were tumbleweeds instead, it would be impossible to cover it up.
they will show long lines in the nice neighborhoods like Manayunk or South Philly. but honestly there are few normal polling places in the city itself. they are tiny little precincts and you vote in a bodega or a house or maybe a school - but these are small. I'm telling you I have never seen a report of "long lines of voters" that wasn't from either outside the city or one of the vanishing nice white areas
they will show long lines in the nice neighborhoods like Manayunk or South Philly. but honestly there are few normal polling places in the city itself. they are tiny little precincts and you vote in a bodega or a house or maybe a school - but these are small. I'm telling you I have never seen a report of "long lines of voters" that wasn't from either outside the city or one of the vanishing nice white areas
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (w0NJk)
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Remember the Democrats are afraid of Trump, he isn't scared of them and has fun mocking them.
Will they Epstein him? The ones with two brain cells won't because they fear what could happen afterwards.
Its the ones will the paramecium sized brains you gotta worry about.
Will they Epstein him? The ones with two brain cells won't because they fear what could happen afterwards.
Its the ones will the paramecium sized brains you gotta worry about.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (ZTAGJ)
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"Suspect Trump turns himself in and sort of wants it."
One of his lawyers already said DJT would "not refuse to surrender." Meanwhile, MAGA is shouting 'we will never surrender.' Is that what's called a 'disconnect?'
One of his lawyers already said DJT would "not refuse to surrender." Meanwhile, MAGA is shouting 'we will never surrender.' Is that what's called a 'disconnect?'
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (MvF+J)
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'LOL... He got the porn star stuff in there multiple times......'
DeSantis can make all the damn jokes he wants, but if he uses it as an excuse to sit on his ass while democrats enact tyranny, he's GOPe and can go to hell.
'LOL... He got the porn star stuff in there multiple times......'
DeSantis can make all the damn jokes he wants, but if he uses it as an excuse to sit on his ass while democrats enact tyranny, he's GOPe and can go to hell.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (qVln6)
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I have always thought Lizzy Pocahontas would be the first one to open the Gulags
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (Ck5SS)
One would think she would've learned from the plight of her people.
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (Ck5SS)
One would think she would've learned from the plight of her people.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)
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What happens if this New York DA does try to arrest Trump, and DeSantis orders the Florida Highway Patrol or the Florida National Guard to prevent it?
DeSantis already said Florida would not get involved.
DeSantis already said Florida would not get involved.
Posted by: spypeach at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (UuB/1)
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Stupid c#nt alert:
Robert Reich @RBReich · Mar 16
Forced birth in a country with:
—No universal healthcare
—No universal childcare
—No paid family & medical leave
—One of the highest rates of maternal mortality among rich nations
This isn't about "life." It's about control.
Robert Reich @RBReich · Mar 16
Forced birth in a country with:
—No universal healthcare
—No universal childcare
—No paid family & medical leave
—One of the highest rates of maternal mortality among rich nations
This isn't about "life." It's about control.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (Vwz3I)
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And why would they not just just run stock footage from previous elections?
You guys are much too young to be so cynical.
You guys are much too young to be so cynical.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (eOEVl)
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At least cleaning up the schools has started in Texas and that is a good start IMO. The governor has *seized* all public schools in Austin and fired the senior leadership in an attempt to reign in the crt, die and lgtbq++ madness.
It's a start, and it's a start in the right direction. The pendulum always swings back.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (ncXxy)
Do you mean Houston or is there news of which I am unaware?
It's a start, and it's a start in the right direction. The pendulum always swings back.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2023 11:34 AM (ncXxy)
Do you mean Houston or is there news of which I am unaware?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (z99Zw)
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300 The death punishment, when used sufficiently often, should help.
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Darwin expects a helping hand, now and again.
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Darwin expects a helping hand, now and again.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (8Sqzu)
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The actual city nearby has had a significant crime increase. Criminals are stealing out of vehicles while the owner is standing there putting gas in it.
The solution: according to the cops is to lock your doors even if you're standing right there.
They go on to further advise you to let them have whatever they want so you stay safe.
What are we paying these cops for again?
The solution: according to the cops is to lock your doors even if you're standing right there.
They go on to further advise you to let them have whatever they want so you stay safe.
What are we paying these cops for again?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (Q4IgG)
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306 And why would they not just just run stock footage from previous elections?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (tkR6S)
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Or footage from a suburb that they just say is representative of all of Philly?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2023 11:56 AM (tkR6S)
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Or footage from a suburb that they just say is representative of all of Philly?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (LvTSG)
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DeSantis can make all the damn jokes he wants, but if he uses it as an excuse to sit on his ass while democrats enact tyranny, he's GOPe and can go to hell.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (qVln6)
What tyranny is he allowing in Florida?
DeSantis can make all the damn jokes he wants, but if he uses it as an excuse to sit on his ass while democrats enact tyranny, he's GOPe and can go to hell.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (qVln6)
What tyranny is he allowing in Florida?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)
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Saving blue Shithole cities from themselves doesn’t make my priorities list.
You probably don't date crazed harpies thinking you can save them either, do you?
You probably don't date crazed harpies thinking you can save them either, do you?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (40DMX)
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Good point, and it requires only a little though to see why Charles Bronson "death wish" type vigilantes are so rare.... So-called vigilantism in such circumstances will almost always be defensive, not offensive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (trdmm)
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The lone vigilante is rare because, as you point out, it is unbelievably risky. Vigilante groups and organizations filling a vacuum left by a failed state security apparatus are much more common. They go out in groups, have a support network, can call for reinforcements from other areas, keep schedules, etc. They usually self-arm and self-supply for the most part, with the organization providing fairly little real infrastructure but a lot of coordination and communication support and escalation/assistance pathways.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
You're describing a militia Joe, or at least an aggressive neighborhood watch. And those are effective, at least defensively.
A solo vigilante has advantages, if no other than not talking about it improves your chances of not getting caught. (groups are a problem because someone always rats). I could go on at length, I've thought about this a lot, but character limits
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 20, 2023 11:44 AM (trdmm)
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The lone vigilante is rare because, as you point out, it is unbelievably risky. Vigilante groups and organizations filling a vacuum left by a failed state security apparatus are much more common. They go out in groups, have a support network, can call for reinforcements from other areas, keep schedules, etc. They usually self-arm and self-supply for the most part, with the organization providing fairly little real infrastructure but a lot of coordination and communication support and escalation/assistance pathways.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
You're describing a militia Joe, or at least an aggressive neighborhood watch. And those are effective, at least defensively.
A solo vigilante has advantages, if no other than not talking about it improves your chances of not getting caught. (groups are a problem because someone always rats). I could go on at length, I've thought about this a lot, but character limits
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (/6ur0)
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They are *not* residents and should not be voting in the local elections.
true Mannix but in Philly they are pushed HARD by the colleges to vote here
true Mannix but in Philly they are pushed HARD by the colleges to vote here
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (w0NJk)
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DeSantis can make all the damn jokes he wants, but if he uses it as an excuse to sit on his ass while democrats enact tyranny, he's GOPe and can go to hell.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (qVln6)
yes 100%
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 11:57 AM (qVln6)
yes 100%
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (us2H3)
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For those of you who imagined that Desantis would let Trump stew, here's the condemnation of Trump's harassment:
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
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Nancy has a different POV.
Nancy Pelosi@SpeakerPelosi
Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law, not even a former President of the United States.
https://tinyurl.com/mr3xztyu
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Nancy has a different POV.
Nancy Pelosi@SpeakerPelosi
Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law, not even a former President of the United States.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (FVME7)
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None of these problems can be fixed until the cultural rot is eliminated. Safe communities are not established by government. They're established by the populace with tacit agreement of civil order. Law enforcement is supposed to exist for the edge-cases.
Posted by: Halfhand at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (9fTAO)
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What happens if this New York DA does try to arrest Trump, and DeSantis orders the Florida Highway Patrol or the Florida National Guard to prevent it?
DeSantis already said Florida would not get involved.
He's a governor of a different state, not a caudillo.
DeSantis already said Florida would not get involved.
He's a governor of a different state, not a caudillo.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (eOEVl)
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Why would the news have to cover it?
When there's an election, the news invariably runs footage of people at the polling places, and breathlessly reports on turnout. You don't think the absence of such coverage would be noticed?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM
And if the entire black population stayed home, you'd hear the "racyciss voter suppression Jim Crow ZOMG!" stories 24/7. The press would be unable to resist.
When there's an election, the news invariably runs footage of people at the polling places, and breathlessly reports on turnout. You don't think the absence of such coverage would be noticed?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 11:52 AM
And if the entire black population stayed home, you'd hear the "racyciss voter suppression Jim Crow ZOMG!" stories 24/7. The press would be unable to resist.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (i5yTE)
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Went to college with a guy who's nickname was Tunacan. Not real long but wide...according to his girlfriend who later became his wife.
Heh. And she was hawt.
Heh. And she was hawt.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (anj39)
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Robert Reich @RBReich · Mar 16
Forced birth in a country with:
—No universal healthcare
—No universal childcare
—No paid family & medical leave
—One of the highest rates of maternal mortality among rich nations
This isn't about "life." It's about control.
Didn't Owebamacare take care of all this? Because they told me Owebamacare would take care of all this.
Oh, and STFU, dwarf.
Forced birth in a country with:
—No universal healthcare
—No universal childcare
—No paid family & medical leave
—One of the highest rates of maternal mortality among rich nations
This isn't about "life." It's about control.
Didn't Owebamacare take care of all this? Because they told me Owebamacare would take care of all this.
Oh, and STFU, dwarf.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (Zz0t1)
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Nancy Pelosi@SpeakerPelosi
Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law, not even a former President of the United States.
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It's a misdemeanor, right?
Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law, not even a former President of the United States.
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It's a misdemeanor, right?
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (ZLyax)
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Paul Krugman and Robert Reich made a baby. Anthony Fauci. Fight me.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (GwxCX)
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The death punishment, when used sufficiently often, should help.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (84jHt)
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That easily backfires because criminals know how to do cost/benefit analyses, too.
Death is the ultimate punishment and it can only happen once. If you degrade the entry requirements for the death penalty, then it becomes irrelevant in deterrence. If you're willing to commit a capital offense, then any offense you commit in the process of committing the capital offense is free. They can only stick the needle in you once, so there is no punishment for any subordinate crimes. You're willing to gamble on a capital crime, so any other crime is irrelevant.
As the threshold for capital crime moves down, the number of potential "free" crimes expands dramatically.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (84jHt)
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That easily backfires because criminals know how to do cost/benefit analyses, too.
Death is the ultimate punishment and it can only happen once. If you degrade the entry requirements for the death penalty, then it becomes irrelevant in deterrence. If you're willing to commit a capital offense, then any offense you commit in the process of committing the capital offense is free. They can only stick the needle in you once, so there is no punishment for any subordinate crimes. You're willing to gamble on a capital crime, so any other crime is irrelevant.
As the threshold for capital crime moves down, the number of potential "free" crimes expands dramatically.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (t0OGg)
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328 And if the entire black population stayed home, you'd hear the "racyciss voter suppression Jim Crow ZOMG!" stories 24/7. The press would be unable to resist.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (i5yTE)
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Except we're talking about inner city polling precincts. Places run by Democrats.
Let Democrats run their elections as they wish. They have pure hearts.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (i5yTE)
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Except we're talking about inner city polling precincts. Places run by Democrats.
Let Democrats run their elections as they wish. They have pure hearts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (LvTSG)
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What gaudy part of Trump's persona do blacks like more than whites?
Old Chick
The over-the-top, in-your-face boasting.
Archimedes
Thanks for your reply. I've never heard Trump's persona described as gaudy.
Old Chick
The over-the-top, in-your-face boasting.
Archimedes
Thanks for your reply. I've never heard Trump's persona described as gaudy.
Posted by: old chick at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (sOete)
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If DeSantis has already said Florida will not be involved, it removes from the NYC DA's arsenal the figment of legality.
And for NY LEOs to try and arrest Trump in Florida means Florida LEOs can arrest the New York ones.
And for NY LEOs to try and arrest Trump in Florida means Florida LEOs can arrest the New York ones.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (ZTAGJ)
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And if the entire black population stayed home, you'd hear the "racyciss voter suppression Jim Crow ZOMG!" stories 24/7. The press would be unable to resist.
not if they were Philadelphians bc that happens now and no one says a word
they're 'voting' so what does it matter
not if they were Philadelphians bc that happens now and no one says a word
they're 'voting' so what does it matter
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: John Fetterman at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (vwCZJ)
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And if the entire black population stayed home, you'd hear the "racyciss voter suppression Jim Crow ZOMG!" stories 24/7. The press would be unable to resist.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Excellent point.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Excellent point.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (eOEVl)
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In unpoliced paradises such as Chicago, the criminals enjoy a libertarian existence free of government interference, while the law-abiding must endure a web of restrictions and mandates to navigate modern life.
There are huge differences between neighborhoods in Chicago.
The white ethnic enclaves in Chicago still have fairly low crime rates - informal policing is still a factor.
There are huge differences between neighborhoods in Chicago.
The white ethnic enclaves in Chicago still have fairly low crime rates - informal policing is still a factor.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (2tUFv)
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Paul Kersey didn't have to deal with thousands of network connected security cameras.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (63Dwl)
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339 And if the entire black population stayed home, you'd hear the "racyciss voter suppression Jim Crow ZOMG!" stories 24/7. The press would be unable to resist.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Excellent point.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (eOEVl)
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Except when it comes to Democratic strongholds, it's actually a pretty bad point.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Excellent point.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (eOEVl)
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Except when it comes to Democratic strongholds, it's actually a pretty bad point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (LvTSG)
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Article at American Thinker today showed voters living in vacant lots, RV parks, abandoned buildings, churches by the 10s of thousands. Ballot mail fraud Is a gold mine
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (Ck5SS)
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It's a misdemeanor, right?
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (ZLyax)
Only a fine for Hillary when she was actually found GUILTY of contribution fraud.
And SHE didn't pay a DIME. The DNC and her CAMPAIGN paid the fine.
It's a misdemeanor, right?
Posted by: NIST- WTC7 uniform collapse was from burning office chairs, not conspiracy theories like impacts at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (ZLyax)
Only a fine for Hillary when she was actually found GUILTY of contribution fraud.
And SHE didn't pay a DIME. The DNC and her CAMPAIGN paid the fine.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (Zz0t1)
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What the cities need is something that the "genius class" of both parties are incapable of allowing.
1) the right wing "genius' class cannot countenance that we need closed borders, tariffs, and subsidization of the burgeoning industries to give the cities their dignity back
2) the leftoids will not allow under any circumstance a functioning economy that gives the urban dweller their dignity and pride back they worship creation in lieu of the creator and they value clean air more than hardwon confidence in the worker.
I am to the point I hate both sides but the right more than the left because the left have been what they are for a century and this affectation by the right is only 30 years old.
1) the right wing "genius' class cannot countenance that we need closed borders, tariffs, and subsidization of the burgeoning industries to give the cities their dignity back
2) the leftoids will not allow under any circumstance a functioning economy that gives the urban dweller their dignity and pride back they worship creation in lieu of the creator and they value clean air more than hardwon confidence in the worker.
I am to the point I hate both sides but the right more than the left because the left have been what they are for a century and this affectation by the right is only 30 years old.
Posted by: sven at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (Lzpvj)
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You're describing a militia Joe, or at least an aggressive neighborhood watch. And those are effective, at least defensively. ...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (/6ur0)
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Right, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That is what I mean by "vigilantism" when I talk about it rising out of the vacuum of security failure. Individuals get together to mitigate risks and build an organizational network to divvy up work, provide cross-zone support, etc.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (/6ur0)
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Right, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That is what I mean by "vigilantism" when I talk about it rising out of the vacuum of security failure. Individuals get together to mitigate risks and build an organizational network to divvy up work, provide cross-zone support, etc.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:02 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: REDACTED at March 20, 2023 12:02 PM (us2H3)
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They go on to further advise you to let them have whatever they want so you stay safe.
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You know, the way the GOPe deals with the congress commies.
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You know, the way the GOPe deals with the congress commies.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 12:02 PM (FVME7)
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333 The death punishment, when used sufficiently often, should help.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (84jHt)
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That easily backfires because criminals know how to do cost/benefit analyses, too.
Death is the ultimate punishment and it can only happen once. If you degrade the entry requirements for the death penalty, then it becomes irrelevant in deterrence. If you're willing to commit a capital offense, then any offense you commit in the process of committing the capital offense is free. They can only stick the needle in you once, so there is no punishment for any subordinate crimes. You're willing to gamble on a capital crime, so any other crime is irrelevant.
As the threshold for capital crime moves down, the number of potential "free" crimes expands dramatically.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (t0OGg)
We already have a lot of crime prevention down to a science so don't need to innovate for a solution. The solutions just aren't implemented, it's not that it is unknown (Giuliani already brought up).
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 11:55 AM (84jHt)
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That easily backfires because criminals know how to do cost/benefit analyses, too.
Death is the ultimate punishment and it can only happen once. If you degrade the entry requirements for the death penalty, then it becomes irrelevant in deterrence. If you're willing to commit a capital offense, then any offense you commit in the process of committing the capital offense is free. They can only stick the needle in you once, so there is no punishment for any subordinate crimes. You're willing to gamble on a capital crime, so any other crime is irrelevant.
As the threshold for capital crime moves down, the number of potential "free" crimes expands dramatically.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 11:59 AM (t0OGg)
We already have a lot of crime prevention down to a science so don't need to innovate for a solution. The solutions just aren't implemented, it's not that it is unknown (Giuliani already brought up).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:02 PM (eYoxG)
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Article at American Thinker today showed voters living in vacant lots, RV parks, abandoned buildings, churches by the 10s of thousands. Ballot mail fraud Is a gold mine
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (Ck5SS)
Steven Crowder showed this a LOT after Biden was implanted.
Posted by: Skip at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM (Ck5SS)
Steven Crowder showed this a LOT after Biden was implanted.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:02 PM (Zz0t1)
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> Paul Krugman and Robert Reich made a baby. Anthony Fauci.
Thus giving rise to the line Tolkien called the "petty dwarves".
Thus giving rise to the line Tolkien called the "petty dwarves".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 20, 2023 12:02 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:02 PM (ZTAGJ)
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335 What gaudy part of Trump's persona do blacks like more than whites?
Old Chick
The over-the-top, in-your-face boasting.
Archimedes
Thanks for your reply. I've never heard Trump's persona described as gaudy.
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The one quality that black males like in Trump is he is a man and speaks in manly ways. He's also a DaddyMac not a MacDaddy. He's a Top - not a bottom.
Old Chick
The over-the-top, in-your-face boasting.
Archimedes
Thanks for your reply. I've never heard Trump's persona described as gaudy.
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The one quality that black males like in Trump is he is a man and speaks in manly ways. He's also a DaddyMac not a MacDaddy. He's a Top - not a bottom.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:02 PM (8Sqzu)
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Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law
No one is above the law, except for Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Ilhan Omar, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, and on and on and on.
No one is above the law, except for Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Ilhan Omar, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, and on and on and on.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 20, 2023 12:03 PM (2tUFv)
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NOODlum.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 20, 2023 12:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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Ace is up.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 20, 2023 12:04 PM (eOEVl)
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Except when it comes to Democratic strongholds, it's actually a pretty bad point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM
I recognize that these are Dem strongholds, but when have Dems ever not blamed Republicans for everything bad that happens in cities/states that have been Dem run for generations? I didn't say they'd get away with it, just that they would likely do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:01 PM
I recognize that these are Dem strongholds, but when have Dems ever not blamed Republicans for everything bad that happens in cities/states that have been Dem run for generations? I didn't say they'd get away with it, just that they would likely do it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2023 12:04 PM (i5yTE)
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A New York Grand Jury is only biding in New York. Not in any of the other several States unless said States consent.
And DeSantis has already said Florida does not consent.
And DeSantis has already said Florida does not consent.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:04 PM (ZTAGJ)
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@SpeakerPelosi
Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law, not even a former President of the United States.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (FVME7)
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1. You're not speaker anymore. Time to change that Twitter handle.
2. No one is above the law, except all those people who very obviously are.
Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law, not even a former President of the United States.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (FVME7)
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1. You're not speaker anymore. Time to change that Twitter handle.
2. No one is above the law, except all those people who very obviously are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 20, 2023 12:04 PM (t0OGg)
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354 Whatever the Grand Jury decides, its consideration makes clear: no one is above the law
damn fucking straight
damn fucking straight
Posted by: Michael Sussman at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (us2H3)
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And for NY LEOs to try and arrest Trump in Florida means Florida LEOs can arrest the New York ones.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (ZTAGJ)
Trump's private security could shoot them dead. "We called the police; they said there was no police action against Mr. Trump, so we assumed these people were assassins posing as officers, and shot them in self defense."
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2023 12:00 PM (ZTAGJ)
Trump's private security could shoot them dead. "We called the police; they said there was no police action against Mr. Trump, so we assumed these people were assassins posing as officers, and shot them in self defense."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (tkR6S)
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Correct me if I am wrong here but wouldn't new york have to request extradition? nyc police just aren't going to show up at maralago and grab him.
Posted by: There goes your fantasy at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (89Sog)
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"The white ethnic enclaves in Chicago still have fairly low crime rates - informal policing is still a factor."
See cwbchicago.com See how public transit and stolen cars transport the worst of the worst daily into formerly 'safe' neighborhoods like Wrigleyville. You can't get away from them. 'Safe' neighborhoods are easy pickings for mobile monsters.
See cwbchicago.com See how public transit and stolen cars transport the worst of the worst daily into formerly 'safe' neighborhoods like Wrigleyville. You can't get away from them. 'Safe' neighborhoods are easy pickings for mobile monsters.
Posted by: gp Of Mayberry at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (MvF+J)
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Don't you think the first thing a Shithole has to offer to become Not A Shithole Anymore would be a real choice at the ballot? You know, someone offering different policies. Forget about counting votes offer some real alternatives to vote for.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2023 12:05 PM (8Sqzu)
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You're describing a militia Joe, or at least an aggressive neighborhood watch. And those are effective, at least defensively.
A solo vigilante has advantages, if no other than not talking about it improves your chances of not getting caught. (groups are a problem because someone always rats). I could go on at length, I've thought about this a lot, but character limits
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (/6ur0)
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I am the new chairman of my HOAs Security committee. woohoo!
Now to clear those fields of fire.
A solo vigilante has advantages, if no other than not talking about it improves your chances of not getting caught. (groups are a problem because someone always rats). I could go on at length, I've thought about this a lot, but character limits
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:58 AM (/6ur0)
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I am the new chairman of my HOAs Security committee. woohoo!
Now to clear those fields of fire.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2023 12:06 PM (anj39)
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357 I recognize that these are Dem strongholds, but when have Dems ever not blamed Republicans for everything bad that happens in cities/states that have been Dem run for generations? I didn't say they'd get away with it, just that they would likely do it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2023 12:04 PM (i5yTE)
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When they establish themselves in power through massive voter fraud and don't want anyone to look into the specifics.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 20, 2023 12:04 PM (i5yTE)
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When they establish themselves in power through massive voter fraud and don't want anyone to look into the specifics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 20, 2023 12:06 PM (LvTSG)
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Needs more hot naked chick art
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (/6ur0)
Odalisque With Slave
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres
Now I was under the impression that the black man in the doorway was the slave, as I'm taught endlessly.
That makes the white girl the oppressor, as per the modern take.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 20, 2023 11:16 AM (/6ur0)
Odalisque With Slave
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres
Now I was under the impression that the black man in the doorway was the slave, as I'm taught endlessly.
That makes the white girl the oppressor, as per the modern take.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:07 PM (gmo/4)
369
I am the new chairman of my HOAs Security committee. woohoo!
Now to clear those fields of fire.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2023 12:06 PM (anj39)
Trim those hedges!
Now to clear those fields of fire.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 20, 2023 12:06 PM (anj39)
Trim those hedges!
Posted by: Archer at March 20, 2023 12:08 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 20, 2023 12:10 PM (Vwz3I)
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Most people who attend a college or university (perhaps not true for community colleges) are not residents. Most of the student body do not live full-time in the jurisdiction where they attend school. The student's residency is usually still where they grew up. Their IDs have that address, their cars are registered at that address, their bank accounts use that address, etc. They are *not* residents and should not be voting in the local elections.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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The larger purpose is to create a voter that will soon leave the area but leave their registration behind to be harvested. That is why all of these voter drives of transient populations exist--it is to create 'floaters' that can be used as the Dems want in future elections.
That is why any place that wants fair elections has to purge the voter rolls every two years at a minimum of dead, moved, or even non-existent voters. Ohio under Ken Blackwell did it, and Florida has over the years (this was not a wholely DeSantis production--have to give prior gov Scott some props for starting the ball). Result, is a red shift throughout the states.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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The larger purpose is to create a voter that will soon leave the area but leave their registration behind to be harvested. That is why all of these voter drives of transient populations exist--it is to create 'floaters' that can be used as the Dems want in future elections.
That is why any place that wants fair elections has to purge the voter rolls every two years at a minimum of dead, moved, or even non-existent voters. Ohio under Ken Blackwell did it, and Florida has over the years (this was not a wholely DeSantis production--have to give prior gov Scott some props for starting the ball). Result, is a red shift throughout the states.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2023 12:11 PM (Bmix2)
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320
'What tyranny is he allowing in Florida?'
Last time I checked Florida is still in the US. When the democrats are done with Trump, they'll come right after him and Florida.
It's a bit naive to say that wouldn't happen.
'What tyranny is he allowing in Florida?'
Last time I checked Florida is still in the US. When the democrats are done with Trump, they'll come right after him and Florida.
It's a bit naive to say that wouldn't happen.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 12:12 PM (qVln6)
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The one quality that black males like in Trump is he is a man and speaks in manly ways. He's also a DaddyMac not a MacDaddy. He's a Top - not a bottom.
Posted by: Pudinhead
Actually, that's why many of the people I know like Donald Trump. I just have never considered that characteristic gaudy.
Posted by: Pudinhead
Actually, that's why many of the people I know like Donald Trump. I just have never considered that characteristic gaudy.
Posted by: old chick at March 20, 2023 12:13 PM (sOete)
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"That easily backfires because criminals know how to do cost/benefit analyses, too.
Death is the ultimate punishment and it can only happen once."
Nowadays in the US many criminals are repeat offenders. If they only get to do one thing, then get the death punishment, I think society is still better off overall.
Death is the ultimate punishment and it can only happen once."
Nowadays in the US many criminals are repeat offenders. If they only get to do one thing, then get the death punishment, I think society is still better off overall.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (84jHt)
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333
' If you degrade the entry requirements for the death penalty, then it becomes irrelevant in deterrence.'
If death penalty recipients > incoming criminals, it becomes quite relevant.
' If you degrade the entry requirements for the death penalty, then it becomes irrelevant in deterrence.'
If death penalty recipients > incoming criminals, it becomes quite relevant.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 12:15 PM (qVln6)
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Nowadays in the US many criminals are repeat offenders. If they only get to do one thing, then get the death punishment, I think society is still better off overall.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (84jHt)
The tl;dr of what he's pointing out is that if the penalty for robbing a stagecoach is death, might as well kill the passengers to avoid witnesses.
Nowadays in the US many criminals are repeat offenders. If they only get to do one thing, then get the death punishment, I think society is still better off overall.
Posted by: PG at March 20, 2023 12:14 PM (84jHt)
The tl;dr of what he's pointing out is that if the penalty for robbing a stagecoach is death, might as well kill the passengers to avoid witnesses.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 20, 2023 12:17 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 20, 2023 12:18 PM (qVln6)
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How would the media respond if a porn star, male or female. Barry O. was less than well endowed?
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 20, 2023
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They'd slap a codpiece on it
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 20, 2023
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They'd slap a codpiece on it
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 20, 2023 12:21 PM (J2vNu)
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The problem in urban areas is that it is run by Karens: People worried about what others do, and wanting them to stop it. The urban areas are NOT libertarian conservative enclaves, quite the oppisate: they are about what you can’t do: 2A, Landloards, Parking, Zoning, Food Trucks, …
Posted by: Legion of Boom at March 20, 2023 12:22 PM (mtmGz)
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The response of DeSantis was garbage.
It was, "Soros prosocutors are bad and stuff. Maybe the prosecution is political but who knows? It was hush money to a porn star didja know? Porn. Star. Anywho, those Soros folks are bad."
Yeah. You just heard the GOPe "we're fightin' fighty conservative who fight" canned responses.
It was, "Soros prosocutors are bad and stuff. Maybe the prosecution is political but who knows? It was hush money to a porn star didja know? Porn. Star. Anywho, those Soros folks are bad."
Yeah. You just heard the GOPe "we're fightin' fighty conservative who fight" canned responses.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 20, 2023 12:26 PM (vGwDa)
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Where is the money going to come from for increased policing? Tax receipts are way down, housing is devalued, municipal worker pensions are still exist.
Most of the big cities have lost a quarter to a third of their police force. How will they entice young men to sign up for the police academies?
The money can't come from the Fed. The borrowing is not sustainable.
I think it will get a lot worse before it gets better.
Most of the big cities have lost a quarter to a third of their police force. How will they entice young men to sign up for the police academies?
The money can't come from the Fed. The borrowing is not sustainable.
I think it will get a lot worse before it gets better.
Posted by: Yawrate at March 20, 2023 12:45 PM (qmaum)
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I'm on board with your general thesis, and offer two solutions:
Street markets where the rented street space is very low, so that the lower end of citizens can be entrepreneurial.
Try to "Condominiumize" some of the sh*t holes, so that lower end rentals can become ownership opportunities. I have a loose framework for such an endeavor. Email me if you want some specifics, buck.
Street markets where the rented street space is very low, so that the lower end of citizens can be entrepreneurial.
Try to "Condominiumize" some of the sh*t holes, so that lower end rentals can become ownership opportunities. I have a loose framework for such an endeavor. Email me if you want some specifics, buck.
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