THE MORNING RANT: “Wind Theft” and the Climate Impact of Wind Farms

What is the climate impact of removing wind energy from the atmosphere with “climate saving” wind turbines?

In my previous posts about green energy and the climate religion, I have often seen comments making reference to this issue. When I was at the Heartland Institute’s “climate realism” conference in Orlando a few weeks ago, I had the opportunity to visit with Lord Christopher Monckton, who is one of the world’s most prominent and published “climate skeptics,” so I asked him about the effect of removing wind energy from the atmosphere with wind turbines. He told me that it is a real issue that he has incorporated into his arguments against wind energy, explaining that by pulling energy from the atmosphere, wind farms can affect the movement of weather systems and the amount of precipitation they produce.

I did some research on the subject when I got home, and my friends at Heartland also provided some info at my request. (Thank you, Sterling Burnett.)

The more I learn about wind energy the more I realize how truly awful it is. Most ironic, wind energy is being employed to fight “climate change” when in fact it actually changes the climate!

Wind Power Found to Affect Local Climate [Scientific American – 02/14/2014]

Wind turbines take energy from the atmosphere and turn it into electricity: so we know they must have some impact on the atmosphere’s flow. With industrial grade turbines being built at a terrific rate, scientists have been trying to assess exactly what the effects are both at local and at global levels.
Using [the] observational approach, researchers have found that the climate around a large wind farm in Texas was affected by the presence of the turbines. Taking the ground temperatures measured by satellites, they detected a warming of 0.5°C at night in the region directly under the farm.

I’ve spent most of my life in Texas, and it’s hot enough as is without warming it up even more with green energy contraptions. And don’t you just love the idea that efforts to save us from imaginary global warming will cause localized increases in temperature?

What is the global impact if the net-zero crowd gets their wish and windmills blanket the globe to produce all the electricity the world might need?

[Modeling] was first attempted by David Keith and colleagues in 2004. When they compared the climate in their model with and without extremely large wind farms (large enough to generate about twice the world’s total present electrical demand), they found that in addition to climate effects in the immediate vicinity of the wind farms, there were changes in climate all around the world.

Scientist David Wojick has done much research on the subject and summarizes from several scientific studies in this piece…

Do wind farms change the weather? [David Wojick – CFACT – 3/08/2022]

There is much more at the link, but these two sentences capture the thesis well:

The effect of lots of wind turbines on weather and climate is a small but active research area. Wind power converts wind energy into electricity, thereby removing that energy from the air.
Thus if you took out all the energy possible by wind, the climate effects might be big. And this is just for land-based wind towers, so a lot of offshore wind should add to this effect.

Are there other localized climate effects other than just warming at the wind farm?

Wind farms dry surface soil in temporal and spatial variation [Science Direct – 01/20/2023]

Wind energy is renewable and clean; however, the long-term operation of wind turbines can affect local climates. Soil moisture affects ecosystem balance, so determining the impact of wind farms on soil moisture is important.
Our research shows that the operation of wind turbines will cause significant drying of soil, and this drought effect differs significantly according to season and wind direction.

That makes perfect sense. Constant wind has a drying effect. When drying a house out after it gets flooded, industrial fans are placed throughout the house to help the slab and sheetrock dry out.

Soil moisture also helps reduce the air temperature, so it makes sense that there would be higher temperatures where the wind farms have sucked moisture out of the ground.

This study goes on to note that wind farms decreased soil moisture by 4.4%.

Wind farms aggravate the soil drying in grassland areas, which may have impacts on grassland ecosystems. Therefore, when building wind farms, we need to better understand their impacts on the environment.

There are many studies (that I’m not going to bother linking to right now) about the relationship between soil moisture, storm development, and rainfall amount. Decreasing soil moisture in already-too-dry-places (e.g. most of the American West) seems like a really bad idea.

So what happens downwind from existing wind farms? Those areas suffer from “wind theft.”

Offshore "Wind Theft" Could Prompt Legal Conflicts Between Developers

Offshore wind farm developers already have to contend with rising costs and supply chain shortages, but in areas where the industry is expanding rapidly, they face a challenge after construction as well: "wind theft" by the next new installation built upwind.

With “environmentalists” wanting to pretty much cover the entire earth in solar panels and wind farms, wind theft clearly becomes a problem for those who are downwind. It’s sort of like being downstream from a dam that captures a river’s flow.

In a new study, researchers from the University of Bergen's Offshore Wind Centre found that as the offshore wind industry grows in the North Sea, the interaction between wind farms' "wakes" - the disturbances that turbines create downwind - will increase markedly. Under the right conditions, wakes can stretch for up to 30 nautical miles, easily reaching into the territory of another wind farm.

Speaking of offshore wind farms, what climate effects are they having on life cycles in the ocean? It’s not good.

Offshore Wind Projects Hurt Ocean Life [Heartland Daily News – Dec 2022]

A team of scientists from various German research institutes and universities studied the world’s largest offshore wind project, which is in the North Sea. They measured the wind wake effect on ocean currents and sea life, determining that offshore wind farms “could reduce annual primary productivity—the ability of microbial life, algae, phytoplankton, plants, and animals to obtain food and flourish—in the area encompassed by and beyond the wind farms by 10 percent or more.” In other words, the impact is less of the food that whales and other ocean creatures feed on.

Their models also indicate that offshore wind farms ”slow ocean currents, resulting in less cycling of dissolved oxygen in affected areas and thereby reducing oxygen concentrations. Lower oxygen levels are bad for marine life.”

We’ll likely look back someday at the current wind farm craze as an ecological horror story, and wonder how the religious fervor of The Sustainable Organic Church Of The Carbon Apocalypse could allow us to do so much destruction to our environment, our ecosystems, and even our climate.

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Songs of the Season

It’s St. Patrick’s Day!

I reckon that more than a few of you will be indulging in some Irish whiskey or some Guinness today. Enjoy!

Of course, I’m not one to celebrate or promote alcohol abuse, but I do believe that funerals should be more celebratory than somber, and with a little whiskey, so did Paddy Murphy’s friends.

Here is Tim Hicks and Alan Doyle with ”The Night Pat Murphy Died”.

Oh the night that Paddy Murphy died, is a night I'll never forget
Some of the boys got loaded drunk, and they ain't got sober yet
As long as a bottle was passed around, every man was feelin' gay
O'Leary came with the bagpipes, some music for to play
That's how they showed their respect for Paddy Murphy
That's how they showed their honour and their pride
They said it was a sin and shame, and they winked at one another
And every drink in the place was full the night Pat Murphy died
As Mrs. Murphy sat in the corner pouring out her grief
Kelly and his gang came tearing down the street
They went into an empty room and a bottle of whiskey stole
They put the bottle with the corpse to keep that whiskey cold
About two o'clock in the morning after emptying the jug
Doyle rolls up the ice box lid to see poor Paddy's mug
We stopped the clock so Mrs. Murphy couldn't tell the time
And at a quarter after two we argued it was nine
They stopped the hearse on George Street outside Sundance Saloon
They all went in at half past eight and staggered out at noon
They went up to the graveyard, so holy and sublime
Found out, when they got there, they'd left the corpse behind!

Have a great weekend.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 Good morning everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 17, 2023 11:00 AM (qoGsy)

2 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 17, 2023 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

3 Dead eagles give me the #sadz

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2023 11:01 AM (dCxaZ)

4 Top 5!

Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 17, 2023 11:02 AM (gryET)

5 I did call them but they're all bewb-mesmerized. It's hopeless.

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2023 11:02 AM (dCxaZ)

6 They want to stay downstairs nice and cozy with their mommaries. Mammaries.

whatever

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2023 11:03 AM (dCxaZ)

7 buck Throckmorton, I think if you post an image of female breasts you'll get them to come upstairs.

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2023 11:04 AM (dCxaZ)

8 Decelerated wind warming.

Wind Turbine induced warming.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 17, 2023 11:04 AM (eYoxG)

9 Now do hydroelectric.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 17, 2023 11:04 AM (DhOHl)

10 Wonder what a set of replacement bearings would cost for a windmill?

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2023 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

11 Only thing we can do now it build huge fans the same size as a windmill to place the wind.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at March 17, 2023 11:05 AM (buTO7)

12 Boobs or science. Hmmmm,,,BBL!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:05 AM (oE0yX)

13 It's all just hot air.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 17, 2023 11:06 AM (5L75r)

14 I have a house in Cape May - the proposed wind farms off the coast are in the middle of migratory flyways for a number of endangered Pelagic bird species including the Red Knot. The current plan has the fields beginning 8 miles from the coast from Sandy Hook in the North to the Delaware Bay.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 17, 2023 11:06 AM (gryET)

15 Wind turbines are hideous.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2023 11:07 AM (NpAcC)

16 I fully expect there to be a lawsuit claiming that somebody was injured because wind farms have caused the rotation of the Earth to slow.

Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:07 AM (RHGPo)

17 Every time I pass a wind farm more than half of them are not spinning. What a waste.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2023 11:07 AM (DMyTF)

18 "Lord Christopher Monckton, who is one of the world’s most prominent and published “climate skeptics,”"

Few years ago, I skimmed one of his papers, found an obvious error, emailed him about it. He quickly and graciously acknowledged the error, but I don't know if he subsequently corrected it or contacted his publisher.

We spend a lot of time bashing the folly of "experts;" that skepticism should apply to all of them, not just the ones we politically oppose. Always drill down to primary sources, examine them carefully.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 17, 2023 11:08 AM (MvF+J)

19 Everyone else is still downstairs LOL.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:08 AM (oE0yX)

20 With industrial grade turbines being built at a terrific rate, scientists have been trying to assess exactly what the effects are both at local and at global levels.

Seems like understanding the effects would be one of the FIRST things you'd want to accomplish but what do I know.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2023 11:08 AM (zhLdt)

21 The effect of lots of wind turbines on weather and climate is a small but active research area. Wind power converts wind energy into electricity, thereby removing that energy from the air.

You need to stop with your fantasies and learn some science. You talk about energy as if it's in some magical fashion "conserved". What a joke. Everyone knows it's generated from the ether.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:09 AM (eOEVl)

22 We’ll likely look back someday at the current wind farm craze as an ecological horror story, and wonder how the religious fervor of The Sustainable Organic Church Of The Carbon Apocalypse could allow us to do so much destruction to our environment, our ecosystems, and even our climate.
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Possibly. It's also possible - even likely - that we will find that the consequences of wind farms have small to moderate negative effects in the areas where they are situated, and otherwise it gets lost as a rounding error.

Just like with "fossil fuels," only with a lot less reliability and quantity of the energy product, at much greater expense.

There is no such thing as "zero-cost" or "zero-externality." The key is to do the thing with the greatest cost:benefit ratio. Wind is *not* that thing. Solar certainly isn't. Given that some negative externalities *will* occur no matter what, the only sensible thing to do is to maximize the good while minimizing the bad. That means hydro or geothermal (where they can be made work), gas, coal and nuclear.

Of course, the "climate movement" has never been about sense.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 17, 2023 11:09 AM (t0OGg)

23 Keep your head down, look out for the static and lightning storms and feckin' atmospheric rivers, Laddie!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 17, 2023 11:10 AM (Jg7EG)

24 These wind turbines are essentially at ground level, given the height of our atmosphere, so I don't think they'll have much effect on "climate", but climate is local and where it does make an impact... well, fuck 'em, they're little people and don't count.
Same thing with the hawks eagles and whales, they're simply not as important as our need to "be better" than you.

Posted by: Climate activists at March 17, 2023 11:10 AM (FCbAQ)

25 Taking the ground temperatures measured by satellites, they detected a warming of 0.5°C at night in the region directly under the farm.

Exactly as planned! Making energy more expensive,funneling money to China, AND creating the data for global warming that Nature doesn't. What's the problem again?

Posted by: WEF elites at March 17, 2023 11:10 AM (JCZqz)

26 >Of course, the "climate movement" has never been about sense.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 17, 2023 11:09 AM (t0OGg)

No, but it is about money. Lots and lots of money.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 17, 2023 11:10 AM (gryET)

27 I read a study once on how to arrange solar panels for maximum production and the conclusion was that they should be arranged similar to how leaves are arranged on a tree. Not in the rows that we see all the time.

Plants had a few billion years to figure this out, but we just "discovered" this.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 17, 2023 11:10 AM (UuD2k)

28 Seems like understanding the effects would be one of the FIRST things you'd want to accomplish but what do I know.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2023 11:08 AM

Science (TM) denier!!!!

REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Leftists who love Science (TM) sexually at March 17, 2023 11:11 AM (Vl0Ta)

29 Blow, Baby Blow. Seems Green Energy is a pron novel.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:11 AM (D8mow)

30 Boobs > windmills

Posted by: Every male moron at March 17, 2023 11:11 AM (lc5cP)

31 Fascinating. I'd be interested to hear what the Horde's lawyers think about farmers near wind farms filing common law nuisance actions against the owners and operators of wind towers.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at March 17, 2023 11:11 AM (gf7Ez)

32 Whales are dying! 🐳
Birds are dying! 🦅

Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2023 11:11 AM (NpAcC)

33 Boobs > windmills
Posted by: Every male moron at March 17, 2023 11:11 AM (lc5cP)
-

That gives me a great idea.

I'm opening up a Wind Turbines channel on.... Only Fans.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 17, 2023 11:12 AM (Rl3IJ)

34 Boobs > windmills
Posted by: Every male moron at March 17, 2023 11:11 AM

It's rare that the art thread and the daily Daddario are combined.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:12 AM (oE0yX)

35 REEEEE!!!!!!!!

*NPC Neckbeard Crying Real Tears*

Posted by: You got your reality in my Peanut Butter at March 17, 2023 11:12 AM (ABf85)

36 I fully expect there to be a lawsuit claiming that somebody was injured because wind farms have caused the rotation of the Earth to slow.
Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:07 AM (RHGPo)

We'll just turn them around and speed things back up again. Easy peasy.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 17, 2023 11:12 AM (FCbAQ)

37 My buddy works with these things. He says they are worthless.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at March 17, 2023 11:12 AM (ytSiK)

38 On the route I take to work is a bridge that was being expanded when the pandemic hit. During the "2 weeks to spread the curve" and a few weeks after, construction stopped.
While the construction crew was away, a peregrine falcon setup a nest on one end under the bridge. When the construction crew returned, the state informed the crew that this peregrine falcon was endangered so they could not come within 300 feet of the nest until the nesting period ended in August. This meant the May completion date would be extended to October.

Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:12 AM (RHGPo)

39 Windmills are easy to take down. Silver Lining?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:13 AM (D8mow)

40 Whales are dying! 🐳
Birds are dying! 🦅
Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2023 11:11 AM

Yea, I think even the greenies are figuring out that this might not be the panacea they thought it would be. But that would require them to admit they were wrong. Not a chance.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:13 AM (oE0yX)

41 I fully expect there to be a lawsuit claiming that somebody was injured because wind farms have caused the rotation of the Earth to slow.
Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:07 AM (RHGPo)

And when the lawsuit is filed, it will claim that the slowing rotation of the earth disproportionately affects minorities.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (eOEVl)

42 What is a mile long and has an asshole every 3 feet?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah - guy what thinks it's all ops at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (/ZVVt)

43 10
'set of replacement bearings'

Think they're custom made each time? Because of the size?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (vNbzm)

44 Was actually surprised in upstate Pa on a mountain ridge dozens of wind turbines, had no idea they were there because out of my usual range.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (MYW11)

45 Windmills are easy to take down. Silver Lining?

meh

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 17, 2023 11:15 AM (/ZVVt)

46 This is kind of strange.

It's not like the left to go balls to the wall and enact full-scale changes without considering the ramifications or even implementing proper studies to gauge long-term impacts.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:15 AM (KbCG3)

47 I fully expect there to be a lawsuit claiming that somebody was injured because wind farms have caused the rotation of the Earth to slow.
Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:07 AM (RHGPo)

If you put a bunch of them on Guam and faced them the right way, they could counter the weight so it doesn't tip over!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:15 AM (oE0yX)

48 What is a mile long and has an asshole every 3 feet?

An El Salvadoran jail?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:15 AM (eOEVl)

49 >44 Was actually surprised in upstate Pa on a mountain ridge dozens of wind turbines, had no idea they were there because out of my usual range.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (MYW11)

Skip - how many were actually generating power?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 17, 2023 11:16 AM (gryET)

50 Is that picture legit?
I've never seen that before.
Another reason to hate those damn things.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 17, 2023 11:16 AM (anj39)

51 some negative externalities *will* occur no matter what,
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WHY DO YOU HATE TEH SKIENCE!!!

THE WORLD IS PERFECTIBLE TRU THE SKIENCE!!!

DENIER

UNBELIEVER
BOW DOWN BEFORE THE ONE YOU SERVE

Posted by: You got your reality in my Peanut Butter at March 17, 2023 11:16 AM (HAYwT)

52 What is a mile long and has an asshole every 3 feet?
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah - guy what thinks it's all ops at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM

Marthas Vineyard?

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:16 AM (oE0yX)

53 I suspect many of the effects described above are still theoretical at this stage. We know there ought to be effects associated with extracting energy from the wind, but exactly how these manifest be yet be unclear.

What we do know:

1. The stated reason for needing them is bullshit.

2. They are terribly expensive to construct and deliver far less than their nameplate capacity.

3. They kill birds and bats.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:16 AM (tkR6S)

54 Every school in my area has a windmill-sized statue of a windmill.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at March 17, 2023 11:17 AM (buTO7)

55 Of course, I’m not one to celebrate or promote alcohol abuse,

I am.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 17, 2023 11:17 AM (QcJKE)

56 Are there other localized climate effects other than just warming at the wind farm?

Dunno. Solar is probably worse. I know my portable panels can get too hot to touch in summer.

Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2023 11:17 AM (rj6Yv)

57
1. The stated reason for needing them is bullshit.

2. They are terribly expensive to construct and deliver far less than their nameplate capacity.

3. They kill birds and bats.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:16 AM

And it looks like whales too. Save the whales! Kill a windmill!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:17 AM (oE0yX)

58 Using [the] observational approach, researchers have found that the climate around a large wind farm in Texas was affected by the presence of the turbines. Taking the ground temperatures measured by satellites, they detected a warming of 0.5°C at night in the region directly under the farm.

*******

Buck,
I don't know if it the same physics, but this phenomenon is used on a smaller scale in fruit orchards in colder climes to help prevent frost damage to fruit buds in early spring. Fans are used to circulate the air in the orchard as overnight temps approach freezing, and can raise the temp a few degrees, hopefully enough to make the difference between freeze damage or not.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:17 AM (ykeLU)

59 Stop tilting at them....

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 17, 2023 11:17 AM (bs+z0)

60 It's not like the left to go balls to the wall and enact full-scale changes without considering the ramifications or even implementing proper studies to gauge long-term impacts.
==
*GUFFAWS*

ROUND EYE, YOU FUNNY. VELY FUNNY.

Posted by: Khymer Rouge at March 17, 2023 11:18 AM (/1wqq)

61 Think I'll go get some Irish food... Tac O'bell.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko solutions at March 17, 2023 11:18 AM (qTFh+)

62 WHY DO YOU HATE TEH SKIENCE!!!
THE WORLD IS PERFECTIBLE TRU THE SKIENCE!!! ...
Posted by: You got your reality in my Peanut Butter at March 17, 2023 11:16 AM (HAYwT)
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Yup, so says every utopian in the world. Well, every scientific utopian. They're better - smarter, cleverer, more efficient, more moral and all around better - than other kinds of utopians.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 17, 2023 11:18 AM (t0OGg)

63 Again, the biggest problem and the paradox with so-called renewable energy other than that it's intermittent, inefficient and doesn't scale is that as your intermittent, inefficient and non-scalable energy grows, so too must your reliable, efficient and scalable energy grow to back stop it for when the wind doesn't blow and the sun don't shine.

Or alternatively...

Every word that comes out of the green movement is a lie, an op and bullsh*t.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 17, 2023 11:18 AM (n/8Ck)

64 Whales are dying! 🐳
Birds are dying! 🦅
Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2023 11:11 AM

Yea, I think even the greenies are figuring out that this might not be the panacea they thought it would be. But that would require them to admit they were wrong. Not a chance.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:13 AM (oE0yX)

I had a conversation with an eco-dope who was expounding on the brilliance of "renewable" energy, especially windmills.
I told him that the rotors were taking hawks and eagles out of the sky at a record pace, and the result was a lot of vermin on the ground that would have been eaten.
Nature abhors a vacuum, so predators like coyotes fill the void, but then eat all sorts of things farmers want to protect, so the farmers kill them, but then have vermin problems.

I heard this right from a farmers mouth in Minnesota, so mebbe he knew something, but eco-nut was busy google checking me as we spoke.

Turns out I was right and it was the first he'd ever heard of a negative consequence of Green Energy (pbuh)

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 17, 2023 11:19 AM (FCbAQ)

65 The previous Thread might set a record for On-Topic Comments In A Thread Over 500 Comments.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 17, 2023 11:19 AM (a3Q+t)

66 Think they're custom made each time? Because of the size?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (vNbzm)

I wouldn't think they're "off the shelf".

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2023 11:19 AM (AwYPR)

67 I'm worried that the prevailing westerly winds hitting the turbine farms will speed the rotation of the earth, making days shorter and thereby hastening our aging process leading to earlier demise and eventual depopulation.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:20 AM (ykeLU)

68 Of course, I’m not one to celebrate or promote alcohol abuse, but I do believe that funerals should be more celebratory than somber,

Especially if it's some sumbitch nobody liked anyway.

Posted by: He's finally dead! HELL YEAH PARTAY TIME!!!!! at March 17, 2023 11:20 AM (La8Fd)

69 What is a mile long and has an asshole every 3 feet?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah - guy what thinks it's all ops at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (/ZVVt)

Washington DC?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 17, 2023 11:20 AM (VwHCD)

70 RINO's at it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAXg2-XMPO0

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2023 11:21 AM (DMyTF)

71 You need to stop with your fantasies and learn some science. You talk about energy as if it's in some magical fashion "conserved". What a joke. Everyone knows it's generated from the ether.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:09 AM (eOEVl)

And if your car won't start at -40, a little shot of ether in the air intake will fix that right up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:21 AM (tkR6S)

72 Happy St. Patrick's Day... I'm only honorary Irish.. For years I was told we had Irish Ancestry on My Father's side... Found out from DNA not true.. I have Scottish instead...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2023 11:21 AM (bs+z0)

73 Yea, I think even the greenies are figuring out that this might not be the panacea they thought it would be. But that would require them to admit they were wrong. Not a chance.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:13 AM (oE0yX)
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They will do what they always do: admit they're wrong but their wrogness was a consequence of failing to be extreme enough.

"Wind power was the compromise solution to allow you worthless bastards to have your precious electricity that you think you're entitled to despite the consequences on Mother Gaia. Now, it turns out that those, too, have bad consequences for Mother Gaia. No more halfway measures can be permitted. No electricity for you shit heels. We can manage the ecological consequences of energy production, but for a small number of elites. You rubes will have to shiver in the dark and shit in a hole in the ground. Sorry, but Mother Gaia needs it."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 17, 2023 11:21 AM (t0OGg)

74 Willowed from art thread. Sarah Goodridge was born 1788, painted Beauty Revealed in 1828. Think about it. Them's 40 years old right there.

Posted by: Eromero at March 17, 2023 11:22 AM (MF3yS)

75 Turns out I was right and it was the first he'd ever heard of a negative consequence of Green Energy
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No one taught us about the rule of un-intended consequences either.

Posted by: Khymer Rouge at March 17, 2023 11:22 AM (/1wqq)

76 Sorry. I meant to say "...our collective aging process..."

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:22 AM (ykeLU)

77 Or alternatively...

Every word that comes out of the green movement is a lie, an op and bullsh*t.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 17, 2023 11:18 AM

^^^ This guy gets it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:22 AM (Vl0Ta)

78 Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 17, 2023 11:19 AM

Not shocking. The green weenies will never admit their errors though. They act like people selling serums back in the 1800's. You cannot convince them that it does not do everything as advertised.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:22 AM (oE0yX)

79 42 What is a mile long and has an asshole every 3 feet?
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah - guy what thinks it's all ops at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (/ZVVt)

Speed trap on ticket quota day

Posted by: You can always tell when the quotas are due at March 17, 2023 11:23 AM (La8Fd)

80 I have Scottish instead...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2023 11:21 AM (bs+z0)

So...Northern Irish.

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2023 11:23 AM (AwYPR)

81 U of Lyden did a study which showed, surprisingly , that the windmills generated their own turbulence. Wind hitting the blades a slightly different mph or angle caused the wind behind the blades to become more disturbed leading to the housing machinery to shake causing more stress on the machinery leading to shorter life for the windmills.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 17, 2023 11:23 AM (dDBj4)

82 What is a mile long and has an asshole every 3 feet?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah - guy what thinks it's all ops at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (/ZVVt)

Washington DC?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 17, 2023 11:20 AM (VwHCD)

It's a ST PATRICK'S DAY PARADE

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 17, 2023 11:24 AM (/ZVVt)

83 The Left would do well to understand the Law of Conservation but they don't give a fuck about anything except exploitation.

So they use the LOC to their advantage by finding the "critical" flaw in whatever solution that serves billions of people is implemented, and demanding "change" to something else where they pretend the LOC won't exist anymore.

In other words they assert there is some magic solution that won't have any consequences, which is easy to do until it's happening, at which point they either pretend them away or demand yet more "change". And profit all the while.

Posted by: ... at March 17, 2023 11:24 AM (WWnom)

84 We should go back to the stone age a d bang rocks to create fire.

Oh, wait... burning trees.

Well, then, I guess we all die?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 17, 2023 11:24 AM (qh8B4)

85 I'm worried that the prevailing westerly winds hitting the turbine farms will speed the rotation of the earth, making days shorter and thereby hastening our aging process leading to earlier demise and eventual depopulation.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:20 AM (ykeLU)
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From the Leftist perspective, anything that hastens the demise of the human race is a plus.

Of course, no telling what that effect will have on OTHER lifeforms (both plant and animal), but that's a small price to pay for a Utopia without humans.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 17, 2023 11:24 AM (YIVH2)

86 Turns out I was right and it was the first he'd ever heard of a negative consequence of Green Energy (pbuh)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 17, 2023 11:19 AM (FCbAQ)

"renewable" energy is marketing. There is no such thing as "renewable" energy. The Laws of Thermodynamics state this quite clearly. Anyone using such terms should be immediately called an idiot and ignored.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 17, 2023 11:24 AM (UuD2k)

87 Willowed from art thread. Sarah Goodridge was born 1788, painted Beauty Revealed in 1828. Think about it. Them's 40 years old right there.
Posted by: Eromero at March 17, 2023 11:22 AM

We're over 29...not an issue.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (Vl0Ta)

88 73
' you think you're entitled to despite the consequences on Mother Gaia.

Mother Goose > Mother fucker > Mother Gaia

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (vNbzm)

89 No your car is changing the weather, interrupting the movement of air will not impact anything...

//Noted Climate Fucktard Greta Bork Bork

Posted by: sven at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (Lzpvj)

90 Gee, it would be real shame if the kind folks of the Animal Liberation Front would suddenly realize that a single rifle round would disable an Eagle Cuisinart wind turbine.

A real Shame.

Posted by: Fritzy at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (YoZGp)

91 I bet you could strap a politician to a windmill vane.
Would that make it out of balance?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (DMyTF)

92 "the effect of removing wind energy from the atmosphere with wind turbines."

I guess the first question I'd ask is: what is the total wind energy of the atmosphere? Then I'd ask: how much energy is removed by windmills? I have no idea what the correct answers are, but I'll take a wild guess: the former exceeds the latter by at least fifteen orders of magnitude.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (MvF+J)

93 What is a mile long and has an asshole every 3 feet?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah - guy what thinks it's all ops at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (/ZVVt)

St Patrick's Day parade in Butte, MT.

Posted by: Beartooth at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM (H4JoC)

94 Remember kids -

Everything is bullshit and lies.
Everything's a scam.
Everything's a rip-off.
Everything's an op.
Everything is fake and ghey.

Posted by: The explanation for 99.9% of life at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM (La8Fd)

95 I bet you could strap a politician to a windmill vane.
Would that make it out of balance?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (DMyTF)

Who cares, try it anyway.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM (VwHCD)

96 Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 17, 2023 11:06 AM (gryET)

this is horrifying

Cape May is known nationwide as a destination for birders, due to its location on that migratory path.

Hasn't the Nature Conservancy been fighting this travesty?

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM (dCxaZ)

97 Mother of Invention >> Mother Goose > Mother fucker > Mother Gaia

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM (DMyTF)

98 Ah, good ole Paddy Murphy...
He and Tim Finnigan's wake make for fun tunes.

Posted by: Inogame at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM (53oGX)

99 I'm surprised that wind farms change so much. I'd have expected that they'd be as irrelevant as some wee parts per million of CO2 increase.

Natural gas really is the best. Or nuclear power. People have to have a crisis though, don't they. Give someone a crisis to use as a lever and what could possibly be too big to move? Anti-civilization idealists (who never once shat in an outhouse or butchered a chicken) think someone is going to continue to bring them food, even while they see their ideal utopia destroy civilization.

I think Greta is protesting wind power at the moment, by the way.

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM (BD/yx)

100 the former exceeds the latter by at least fifteen orders of magnitude.
Posted by: Apply gp

Sure. But if adding 10ppm of CO2 to the atmosphere causes catastrophic changes, then removing 1000 Gw of wind energy threatens our democracy.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 17, 2023 11:27 AM (qh8B4)

101 What is a mile long and has an asshole every 3 feet?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah - guy what thinks it's all ops at March 17, 2023 11:14 AM (/ZVVt)

Correction: Mr. I am Science says it should be an asshole every 6 ft.

Posted by: Inogame at March 17, 2023 11:27 AM (53oGX)

102 Wind turbines are extremely hazardous to the environment in the entire life cycle from production, use, and disposal. Not to mention their direct negative impact on avian life.

The only "green" energy that makes sense, is nuclear at present.

Posted by: Archer at March 17, 2023 11:28 AM (gmo/4)

103 Gee, it would be real shame if the kind folks of the Animal Liberation Front would suddenly realize that a single rifle round would disable an Eagle Cuisinart wind turbine.

A real Shame.
Posted by: Fritzy at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM

It would be better if they realized that it applies to ALF types, too...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:28 AM (Vl0Ta)

104 Happy St. Patrick's Day... I'm only honorary Irish.. For years I was told we had Irish Ancestry on My Father's side... Found out from DNA not true.. I have Scottish instead...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2023 11:21 AM (bs+z0)

Apparently a number of Scots were transported to Ireland at some point (during The Clearances?) and became known as Scots-Irish. My dad's family is from that group.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2023 11:28 AM (nC+QA)

105 For years I was told we had Irish Ancestry on My Father's side... Found out from DNA not true.. I have Scottish instead...
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So, you're even more unreasonable than you thought.

Posted by: Okay then at March 17, 2023 11:29 AM (8VRpF)

106 Here's one nature conservancy organization in Cape May, I can't imagine they haven't already started fighting the wind farm off their coast:

https://njaudubon.org/soar/

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2023 11:29 AM (dCxaZ)

107 What the hell would you do with a six-foot asshole?

Give him a radar gun and have him hide at the bottom of the hill.

Posted by: Just the punchline at March 17, 2023 11:29 AM (La8Fd)

108 I bet you could strap a politician to a windmill vane.
Would that make it out of balance?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (DMyTF)

Not if you strap one to each blade.

It's science!

Posted by: Archer at March 17, 2023 11:29 AM (gmo/4)

109 I think Greta is protesting wind power at the moment, by the way.
Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM

Has she chained herself to a wind turbine blade yet?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:29 AM (Vl0Ta)

110 >>and became known as Scots-Irish.

Did they bring their haggis with them?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2023 11:29 AM (DMyTF)

111 91 Would that make it out of balance?

Not if you put a politician on all three blades in approximately the same location.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 17, 2023 11:30 AM (vNbzm)

112 the former exceeds the latter by at least fifteen orders of magnitude.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (MvF+J)

Yes, but none is leaving the Earth. It all goes somewhere and does something. We don't know exactly what those things are or whether we are willing to live with out those things.

Power plants heat the environment and this has been studied extensively and the effects determined and quantified. There are limits set for how much heat can be added to a river or how much water can be lost to the atm in a cooling tower.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 17, 2023 11:30 AM (UuD2k)

113 There's so many papers on Windmill Effects on Humans, i.e., NIH, Health Effects Related to Wind Turbine Noise Exposure: A Systematic Review: It has been reported that noise from wind turbines can lead to such symptoms as dizziness, nausea, the sensation of ear pressure, tinnitus, hearing loss, sleeping disorders, headache and other symptoms.

Official Journal of the College of Family Physicians of Canada: Adverse health effects of industrial wind turbines
Roy D. Jeffery, MD FCFP, 2013 May

No definitive answers, that government will admit, but also can't imagine how maintenance would ever be done safely, and who or what regulates offshore, ocean-based construction and maintenance.

Love the music! Thanks.

Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 17, 2023 11:30 AM (GshMh)

114 67 I'm worried that the prevailing westerly winds hitting the turbine farms will speed the rotation of the earth, making days shorter and thereby hastening our aging process leading to earlier demise and eventual depopulation.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:20 AM (ykeLU)

In the southern hemisphere the prevailing winds go the opposite direction. So what we need to worry about is the torque breaking the world at the equator.

The climate catastrophists are nutballs though.

Also, we're having a nice blizzard in Albuquerque today. More water is better.

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:31 AM (BD/yx)

115 So, you're even more unreasonable than you thought.

Posted by: Okay then at March 17, 2023 11:29 AM (8VRpF)

Cheaper, too.

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2023 11:31 AM (AwYPR)

116 Hasn't the Nature Conservancy been fighting this travesty?
Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM (dCxaZ)

Politics > Cause

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 17, 2023 11:31 AM (i0Kzs)

117 Conspiracy theory: these are *meant* to cause global warming so there's proof the non-elites can't have electricity.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 17, 2023 11:31 AM (ZGrMX)

118 Count me as a wind mill skeptic just like I'm a skeptic of any other man-made caused changes to our weather systems.

Posted by: polynikes at March 17, 2023 11:31 AM (7HLtt)

119 Hasn't the Nature Conservancy been fighting this travesty?
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All the old school conservation groups got bought out by Manhattan Hedge Funds.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:31 AM (D8mow)

120 I think Greta is protesting wind power at the moment, by the way.
Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM

Has she chained herself to a wind turbine blade yet?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:29 AM

H O W D A R E Y O U

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:32 AM (oE0yX)

121 What's the lifespan of one of those turbine blades? How do you dispose of them?

Posted by: Just Wondering at March 17, 2023 11:32 AM (DhOHl)

122 In the southern hemisphere the prevailing winds go the opposite direction. So what we need to worry about is the torque breaking the world at the equator.

The lefties won't be happy until the globe looks like a gigantic Rubik's cube in action.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:32 AM (eOEVl)

123 There was a Danish company that built and (presumably) sold windmills intended to produce heat. The rotor drove what was essentially a dynamometer, that churned up an antifreeze solution, making it hot, and circulated that hot fluid through heat exchangers in your home. They were quite expensive, but "free" heat is free heat, right? I considered buying one, but decided against it, because of the opportunity cost of the capital needed. And all summer long, the damned thing just sits there, earning nothing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:32 AM (tkR6S)

124 Correction: Mr. I am Science says it should be an asshole every 6 ft.

Posted by: Inogame at March 17, 2023 11:27 AM (53oGX)

every meter

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 17, 2023 11:33 AM (OgrpQ)

125 In 20 years we will have fusion power and all of our problems will be solved.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 17, 2023 11:33 AM (qh8B4)

126 What's the lifespan of one of those turbine blades? How do you dispose of them?

Much less than was supposed. Ship them to Chi-na!

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:33 AM (eOEVl)

127 Speaking of offshore wind farms, what climate effects are they having on life cycles in the ocean? It’s not good.
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I prolly told this story here before -

My wife works with a lot of Crazy Crayons, but she's the type who can get along with anyone. Last summer, she invites 20+ work friends to the house, and a lot of them have the colored hair and face piercings. They're drinking, and the cans and bottles start stacking up on the counter. A few ask me where my recycling goes, and I point to the kitchen trashcan, "Right there." A few got a bit snitty about this by the end of the night.

A few weeks later, she hosts another group from work, and it will include several of the same fruitcakes. So, I grab the old kitchen trashcan I put in my garage, put a piece of masking tape on it, and had my wife write "RECYCLING" on it with a Sharpie. I set it up in the opposite corner of the kitchen. A half dozen people thanked me that night "for thinking of the Earth."

End of the night, that bag ofvtrash went out with the rest of the trash. These people have all the intellectual depth of a puddle.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 17, 2023 11:33 AM (lSTul)

128 102 Wind turbines are extremely hazardous to the environment in the entire life cycle from production, use, and disposal. Not to mention their direct negative impact on avian life.

The only "green" energy that makes sense, is nuclear at present.

Posted by: Archer at March 17, 2023 11:28 AM (gmo/4)

Water is a big deal in New Mexico and I've thought I ought to, but so far have been too lazy, to figure out how much water is necessary to make the truly enormous cement bases of the windmills that our nutzoid Senator loves so very much.

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:33 AM (BD/yx)

129 In the southern hemisphere the prevailing winds go the opposite direction. So what we need to worry about is the torque breaking the world at the equator.

It's really going to fuck up Guam.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:33 AM (oE0yX)

130 Gee, it would be real shame if the kind folks of the Animal Liberation Front would suddenly realize that a single rifle round would disable an Eagle Cuisinart wind turbine.

A real Shame.
Posted by: Fritzy at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM (YoZGp)

The real shame would be if they were bad shots and bullets would be going up and coming down...somewhere.
Although it'd be tough to miss something as big as one of those generators, I'm sure they'd find a way

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 17, 2023 11:33 AM (FCbAQ)

131
1. Create an imaginary problem
2. Profit from the solution...
3. which is itself a problem. Go back to step 2

Posted by: t-bird at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (CaJIi)

132 >Turns out I was right and it was the first he'd ever heard of a negative consequence of Green Energy (pbuh)

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 17, 2023 11:19 AM (FCbAQ)

Ironically, the Audubon Society is totes cool with industrial wind turbines. Someone got paid.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (gryET)

133 Possibly. It's also possible - even likely - that we will find that the consequences of wind farms have small to moderate negative effects in the areas where they are situated, and otherwise it gets lost as a rounding error.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

*****

Yeah, I think the question of the scale and extent of any effect needs to be considered. In my mind, the impact of a few thousand wind turbines( standing what, 500 feet tall or so?) in a region of many square miles and an atmosphere many miles high, may turn out to be trivial.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (ykeLU)

134 I think Greta is protesting wind power at the moment, by the way.
Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:26 AM (BD/yx)

Yes. She's now protesting *in favor* of nuclear power. I wonder if she's off her parents' script or if this was the plan all along.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (nC+QA)

135 The turbine blades are carbon fiber, so no recycling of them is possible. They get buried in a trench.
Or, so I've read. (Gotta be careful these days around this crowd, sheesh...)

Posted by: gourmand du jour, it wuz pencils! at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (jTmQV)

136 In 20 years we will have fusion power and all of our problems will be solved.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 17, 2023 11:33 AM

The environazis will really hate that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (Vl0Ta)

137 What's the lifespan of one of those turbine blades? How do you dispose of them?

Posted by: Just Wondering at March 17, 2023 11:32 AM (DhOHl)

This has been covered previously...aren't you bookmarking/ taking notes?

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (AwYPR)

138 Most of those turbine blades have balsa wood as a filler. The balsa wood market has exploded and most of it comes from Ecuador.

They are literally cutting down the "rain forest" for this stuff. Remember when the "rain forest" was popular?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (UuD2k)

139
Yes. She's now protesting *in favor* of nuclear power. I wonder if she's off her parents' script or if this was the plan all along.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (nC+QA)

Damn... Now I have to agree with her

Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2023 11:35 AM (bs+z0)

140 There's something for everyone in the new Quinnipiac poll for the T vs D debate.
T bests D among Republicans.
D bests T among all voters, but both still lose to B.

https://tinyurl.com/2p8a7d6a

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:35 AM (eOEVl)

141 Look how fast the Left turned on their mercury death bulbs after forcing literally everyone to put them in their house.

Posted by: ... at March 17, 2023 11:36 AM (iCWt+)

142 100, 112 I guess my point was not made clearly. I'm saying that, just because the greenies use silly innumerate arguments, doesn't mean we also have to come up with counter-arguments that are just as ludicrous and fanciful as theirs are.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 17, 2023 11:36 AM (MvF+J)

143 End of the night, that bag ofvtrash went out with the rest of the trash. These people have all the intellectual depth of a puddle.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 17, 2023 11:33 AM

And now they are finally figuring out that recycling is actually worse for the environment. Everything they try seems to have worse consequences. Same with ethanol, don't even get me started on that shit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:36 AM (oE0yX)

144 I must say that solar power has saved us an assload of $$ and aggravation on the ranch. We power the well pump, two gate openers, 6 security cameras, and all the lights in the barn from independent solar arrays. So, good for small and medium load applications and relatively cheap now.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2023 11:36 AM (DMyTF)

145
Of course. No matter what energy source is used, the ruling class will come up with their environmental justification for restricting it to themselves.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2023 11:37 AM (oINRc)

146 138 Most of those turbine blades have balsa wood as a filler. The balsa wood market has exploded and most of it comes from Ecuador.

They are literally cutting down the "rain forest" for this stuff. Remember when the "rain forest" was popular?
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This will raise the cost of model planes and boats. We need to put a stop to it.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:37 AM (D8mow)

147 The turbine blades are carbon fiber, so no recycling of them is possible. They get buried in a trench.
Or, so I've read. (Gotta be careful these days around this crowd, sheesh...)

You are correct. About the blades, not the careful part.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:37 AM (eOEVl)

148 What's the lifespan of one of those turbine blades? How do you dispose of them?
Posted by: Just Wondering at March 17, 2023 11:32 AM (DhOHl)

They are made of carbon fiber and/or fiberglass and plastic resin. Cut 'em up into small pieces, and blend with the coal feed into a real power plant. Use convict labor to cut them up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:37 AM (tkR6S)

149 Same with ethanol, don't even get me started on that shit.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:36 AM

This is the Horde...you want to day drink, we won't judge.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:37 AM (Vl0Ta)

150 >145
Of course. No matter what energy source is used, the ruling class will come up with their environmental justification for restricting it to themselves.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2023 11:37 AM (oINRc)

So no Mr. Fusion for me?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 17, 2023 11:37 AM (gryET)

151 There is a reason Warmists always compare things to pre-industrial times.

Posted by: blaster at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM (pwExq)

152 At its 2023 Investor Day presentation in Texas, Tesla revealed its plans to produce its next generation EV motor without any rare earth minerals. As a global leader in the electric vehicle market, Tesla’s plan for zero rare earth permanent magnet motors, if successful, could have a significant impact on the rare earth market—particularly China’s rare earth monopoly.

Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM (RHGPo)

153 Yes. She's now protesting *in favor* of nuclear power. I wonder if she's off her parents' script or if this was the plan all along.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (nC+QA)

Well, Dang! Good for her. Maybe she'll do something positive in the world after all.

Hope she tells the kids to go back to school and take nuclear engineering. (I doubt she'd go that far, but it's nice to hope.)

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM (BD/yx)

154 37 My buddy works with these things. He says they are worthless.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at March 17, 2023 11:12 AM (ytSiK)

Considering the comments thus far, I'm asking for a friend:

Boobs, or Windfarms?

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM (CCSxw)

155 This will raise the cost of model planes and boats. We need to put a stop to it.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:37 AM

The price on those things is already sky high, damn it!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM (Vl0Ta)

156
Heh.

The wind thing was an extra credit question in a meteorology course I once took. Citrus farmers often put up powered wind turbines to move the air around the trees to keep the fruit from freezing. We were tasked with explaining how this works. If I recall correctly, drying the soil was the answer. And NONE of us got it right.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM (n+4am)

157 Just make electricity illegal.
Enforced by zap guns.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM (VZPAA)

158 And now they are finally figuring out that recycling is actually worse for the environment. Everything they try seems to have worse consequences. Same with ethanol, don't even get me started on that shit.

Why, it's almost as if the existence of a better way would induce people with, you know, technical skills, to find a way to make money from it, and it would become the new default.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM (eOEVl)

159 Where is my nuclear flying car? I am fucking tired of this shit.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (D8mow)

160 I’ve always suspected there is real potential for a negative impact on the natural cycle of Earth’s climate due to wind farms. Energy loss, diversion, and concentration on a massive scale? No foresight or contingency thinking whatsoever.

Posted by: Hairpin Corner Concrete Truck Collision Take Me Now at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (1HyCx)

161 They are literally cutting down the "rain forest" for this stuff. Remember when the "rain forest" was popular?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (UuD2k)

Let'em have their balsa, give me back my Brazilian rosewood.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (VwHCD)

162 Well, I'm feeling a breeze in here. No wind farms. Must have been that corned beef and cabbage.

Hey wait, methinks I have a new energy idea.

Posted by: Pat MeGroin, Leprechaun at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (OTvdu)

163 Hope she tells the kids to go back to school and take nuclear engineering. (I doubt she'd go that far, but it's nice to hope.)
Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM

That would require the little gits to learn to math seriously. Good luck with that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (Vl0Ta)

164 Innumerate Arguments was the working title of what eventually became The Vagina Monologues. I mean it. I'm serious. Not a joke.

Posted by: My word as a Biden at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (DhOHl)

165

If 'wind' power creates hotter, dryer microclimates, how come my undies are full of mold?

Posted by: Noxious Extremis at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (3b35n)

166 No need to make their arguments for them in the short term. They want renewables, so renewables it will be. No argument can change that.

Once everything's renewables, then they'll say the wind turbines are causing global warming or whatever, and the solar panels, etc. So then those will be rolled back accordingly, but simply replaced with nothing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (oINRc)

167 Damn... Now I have to agree with her
Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2023 11:35 AM (bs+z0)

I know, right? Painful.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (nC+QA)

168 Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:35 AM (eOEVl)

Biden wins no matter what

Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2023 11:40 AM (bs+z0)

169 A Loyola University professor is claiming that organized pantries are rooted in “racist and sexist social structures,” and that the new so-called “pantry porn” trend, in which people show off their “neatly aligned glass spice jars tagged with printed white labels” and “wicker baskets filled with packages of pasta, crackers and snacks,” has become a status symbol for white women. Associate professor Jenna Drenten wrote an op-ed for the website, the Conversation, in which she reacted to what she calls “pantry porn,” a phenomenon where “obsessively organized kitchens” have become “a new status symbol” on social media.

Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:40 AM (RHGPo)

170 155 This will raise the cost of model planes and boats. We need to put a stop to it.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:37 AM

The price on those things is already sky high, damn it!
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Yeah, I know. I have a Skipjack boat model I haven't had time to build. Its probably worth double what my wife paid for it several years ago. But, heh, Future Leader graduates college in May. Maybe I can find the time and space to build it?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:41 AM (D8mow)

171 Ironically, the Audubon Society is totes cool with industrial wind turbines. Someone got paid.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 17, 2023 11:34 AM (gryET)

I didn't even go into the hypocrisy of our federal government making it against the law to pick up so much as a feather from the carcass of one of those "protected" species that the federally mandated renewable energy blenders blasts into pieces.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 17, 2023 11:41 AM (FCbAQ)

172 Feminism is deeply rooted in Satanism and the occult

https://tinyurl.com/mrydkck5

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2023 11:41 AM (DMyTF)

173 Biden wins no matter what

He's ahead of DeSantis by one point among all voters, and Des hasn't even started campaigning or acknowledged that he's going to run. I'm quite comfortable with that.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:41 AM (eOEVl)

174 Not if you strap one to each blade.

*******

The distance from the hub would have to be adjusted for each individual politician by a unit that has been designated "one metric Nadler"

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:42 AM (ykeLU)

175 He's ahead of DeSantis by one point among all voters, and Des hasn't even started campaigning or acknowledged that he's going to run. I'm quite comfortable with that.

Yeah, yeah, Dominion etc.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:42 AM (eOEVl)

176 Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:41 AM

I'm talking about the steal

Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2023 11:42 AM (bs+z0)

177 Let'em have their balsa, give me back my Brazilian rosewood.
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Did our kitchen floor in Brazilian Cherry. It looks magnificent.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:42 AM (D8mow)

178 What's the lifespan of one of those turbine blades? How do you dispose of them?

Lifespan of the fiberglass and carbon fiber blades themselves is probably thousands of years. Judging from what you see going over the Altamont Pass, you don't dispose of them, you just abandon them.

Posted by: t-bird at March 17, 2023 11:42 AM (CaJIi)

179 Seems like a few here think this is a big 'meh'. I don't. Thanks for the thread, Buck.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 17, 2023 11:42 AM (Xrfse)

180 Wind mills are terrible though for any number of other reasons. Inefficient, killing birds, environmentally damaging to build and dispose and unsightly.

Posted by: polynikes at March 17, 2023 11:42 AM (7HLtt)

181 Thank you for this.

I've been very curious about the effects of these windfarms.

There's no such thing as a free lunch. I wanted to know what was happening when you pull energy out of the weather system.

I'm guessing the answer- just like the "CARBON IS GOING TO KILL US ALL!" effects of an increase in carbon dioxide- is "We don't know."

And, just like with everything else in this age. "We don't know" means "go ahead and do it. What's the worst that could happen?" (See: Experimental vaccines with absolutely unknown longterm effects.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 17, 2023 11:42 AM (JMAcK)

182 ...otherwise the ensuing imbalance would send the blades flying off into the stratosphere.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:43 AM (ykeLU)

183 The distance from the hub would have to be adjusted for each individual politician by a unit that has been designated "one metric Nadler"

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:42 AM (ykeLU)

Problem with that is you would wipe out a small state's population trying to counterbalance a metric nadler.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 17, 2023 11:43 AM (VwHCD)

184 What's the lifespan of one of those turbine blades? How do you dispose of them?

Lifespan of the fiberglass and carbon fiber blades themselves is probably thousands of years. Judging from what you see going over the Altamont Pass, you don't dispose of them, you just abandon them.

It's my understanding that the blade tips are eroding MUCH more quickly than was anticipated, and once that happens, they need to be replaced. This, for a unit that operates maybe 10% of the time.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:43 AM (eOEVl)

185 169 A Loyola University professor is claiming that organized pantries are rooted in “racist and sexist social structures,” and that the new so-called “pantry porn” trend, in which people show off their “neatly aligned glass spice jars tagged with printed white labels” and “wicker baskets filled with packages of pasta, crackers and snacks,” has become a status symbol for white women. Associate professor Jenna Drenten wrote an op-ed for the website, the Conversation, in which she reacted to what she calls “pantry porn,” a phenomenon where “obsessively organized kitchens” have become “a new status symbol” on social media.
Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:40 AM (RHGPo)

The racism nuttery aside, she's not wrong about this status symbol BS. Why the hell else would feel the need to share what your pantry looks like?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:43 AM (KbCG3)

186 Jenna Drenten wrote an op-ed for the website, the Conversation, in which she reacted to what she calls “pantry porn,” a phenomenon where “obsessively organized kitchens” have become “a new status symbol” on social media.

Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:40 AM (RHGPo)

Mz Drenten clearly has too much time on her hands...and possibly "pantry envy"'.

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2023 11:44 AM (AwYPR)

187 "Fans are used to circulate the air in the orchard as overnight temps approach freezing, and can raise the temp a few degrees,"

I think that is about mixing the air with warmer air above. I'm in a sort of valley, on still nights with few clouds it can get about 10 degrees colder than the higher ground official temps at the airport.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (Cus5s)

188 I’ve always suspected there is real potential for a negative impact on the natural cycle of Earth’s climate due to wind farms. Energy loss, diversion, and concentration on a massive scale? No foresight or contingency thinking whatsoever.
Posted by: Hairpin Corner Concrete Truck Collision Take Me Now at March 17, 2023 11:39 AM (1HyCx)

Seems pretty clear to me that a moving air mass will simply "see" a wind farm as a range of hills, and will divert around it. Plop a rock in a river, and some water goes over the rock, and some diverts around it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (tkR6S)

189 Bethany Mandel is getting drug over a tweet from 2014.

This is why Twitter is shit. And you should routinely delete old tweets. If that makes any difference. I don't know. It is probably all archived somewhere.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (qh8B4)

190 A Loyola University professor is claiming that organized pantries are rooted in “racist and sexist social structures,” and that the new so-called “pantry porn” trend, in which people show off their “neatly aligned glass spice jars tagged with printed white labels” and “wicker baskets filled with packages of pasta, crackers and snacks,” has become a status symbol for white women.

I see. So what she's saying is that blacks are slovenly and disorganized?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (eOEVl)

191 kallisto

The back story of that painting was really interesting.
Did it work? Daniel Webster, Senator, playa, turn someone down?

And yes, we are sometimes hopeless.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (u82oZ)

192 If I recall correctly, drying the soil was the answer. And NONE of us got it right.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2023 11:38 AM (n+4am)

Plants die sooner with cold if they're dry. The "old wisdom" here in the desert is to spray water on fruit trees if there's a late frost to save the pollen.

The shift of states, of water to ice, uses more energy than cold that doesn't involve a change in states.

No?

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (BD/yx)

193 The racism nuttery aside, she's not wrong about this status symbol BS. Why the hell else would feel the need to share what your pantry looks like?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:43 AM (KbCG3)

House and Garden has been around for almost 100 years show casing homes and interiors. It's just another small subset of this display.

Posted by: polynikes at March 17, 2023 11:46 AM (7HLtt)

194 A single wind turbine requires 85 gallons of gear oil. That's a petroleum product.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 17, 2023 11:46 AM (lSTul)

195 The racism nuttery aside, she's not wrong about this status symbol BS. Why the hell else would feel the need to share what your pantry looks like?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:43 AM

I blame social media. I don't care what your pantry/lunch/vacation/cocktail looks like.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:47 AM (Vl0Ta)

196 Seems like a few here think this is a big 'meh'. I don't.
Posted by: Notorious BFD

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Well, it's probably somewhere on the spectrum between a big 'meh' and 'the magic bullet that will finally derail the climate change agenda'.

My natural skepticism always kicks in.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:47 AM (ykeLU)

197 No more halfway measures can be permitted. No electricity for you shit heels. We can manage the ecological consequences of energy production, but for a small number of elites. You rubes will have to shiver in the dark and shit in a hole in the ground. Sorry, but Mother Gaia needs it."
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Don't you forget about me . . .

The tree is in a quiet, sunstruck park, lost in a grimy exurb of the Cambodian capital, Phnom Penh. The tree is decorated with hundreds of bracelets and trinkets, with the occasional teddy bear and kiddies’ drink – poignantly Blyton-esque touches, perhaps.

But if you look close at the bark of this tree, you can see tell-tale abrasions: chops, scars, bruises. These blemishes mark the places where peasant soldiers would swing screaming children against the tree, smashing their skulls to pulp. This was done, quite deliberately, in front of their naked, wailing and soon-to-be-murdered mothers. Because this is the infamous Baby Bashing Tree, in the Khmer Rouge Killing Fields of Choeung Ek.

The Spectator March 4th

Posted by: Pol Pot at March 17, 2023 11:47 AM (/1wqq)

198 The shift of states, of water to ice, uses more energy than cold that doesn't involve a change in states.

No?

When water freezes, it releases heat.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:47 AM (eOEVl)

199 At the same time, a groupuscule of Paris-educated Cambodian ultra-Maoists, the Khmer Rouge, was rising to power. They started by radicalising and arming the peasantry, firing them with violent passion. Eventually they seized the capital (that terrible day witnessed by Roland Neveu). They then set about enforcing their crazed belief in an agrarian paradise, with everyone labouring like oxen in the rice-fields. A Maoist autarky. A place without money (they literally blew up the national bank, scattering now-worthless banknotes into the jacaranda trees). A place without religion, hierarchy, social class, intellectuals.

To do this, they killed all the middle classes. Everyone. If you had an education, you were killed. If you spoke a foreign language, you were killed. If you were a monk, a teacher, a lawyer, you were killed. People wearing spectacles were killed. Anyone who could dance was killed

The spectator March 4th.

Posted by: Pol Pot at March 17, 2023 11:48 AM (/1wqq)

200 How well do these wind turbines work during ice storms and severe blizzards? You know, when the solar cell output in the same area is zero?

Posted by: Gref at March 17, 2023 11:48 AM (AMIL/)

201 Seems pretty clear to me that a moving air mass will simply "see" a wind farm as a range of hills, and will divert around it. Plop a rock in a river, and some water goes over the rock, and some diverts around it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (tkR6S)

But what happens if there is a little propeller on that rock?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 17, 2023 11:48 AM (VwHCD)

202 A Loyola University professor is claiming that organized pantries are rooted in “racist and sexist social structures,” and that the new so-called “pantry porn” trend, in which people show off their “neatly aligned glass spice jars tagged with printed white labels” and “wicker baskets filled with packages of pasta, crackers and snacks,” has become a status symbol for white women. Associate professor Jenna Drenten wrote an op-ed for the website, the Conversation, in which she reacted to what she calls “pantry porn,” a phenomenon where “obsessively organized kitchens” have become “a new status symbol” on social media.
Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:40 AM (RHGPo)
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I'm guessing my carefully arranged library, with books in a proper order, is also "racist" (somehow).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 17, 2023 11:48 AM (YIVH2)

203 The shift of states, of water to ice, uses more energy than cold that doesn't involve a change in states.

No?
Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (BD/yx)

"Latent Energy"

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2023 11:48 AM (AwYPR)

204 ICC issues arrest warrant on Putin over war crimes.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2023 11:49 AM (NpAcC)

205
Lifespan of the fiberglass and carbon fiber blades themselves is probably thousands of years. Judging from what you see going over the Altamont Pass, you don't dispose of them, you just abandon them.
Posted by: t-bird

Lifespan of the materials, maybe. But the blades as functional items have a VERY short lifespan. 2-3 years at best. The leading edges get pitted and worn from smacking into dust and debris, killing their aerodynamic profile and making them useless. There was an article linked here awhile back about this.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2023 11:49 AM (n+4am)

206 I cant wait to start blaming snowstorm, heat waves, droughts, floods, locusts, etc... on wind farms just to see leftists heads explode.

Posted by: Ripley at March 17, 2023 11:49 AM (cUYo/)

207 I see. So what she's saying is that blacks are slovenly and disorganized?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (eOEVl)
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Kind of. It's more like they incapable of being anything but slovenly and disorganized, which is actually a far shittier thing to impune.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 17, 2023 11:49 AM (lSTul)

208 I think that is about mixing the air with warmer air above. I'm in a sort of valley, on still nights with few clouds it can get about 10 degrees colder than the higher ground official temps at the airport.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (Cus5s)

Every biker who's ridden at twilight knows they'll shiver with every downhill and warm up again at the top.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 17, 2023 11:49 AM (FCbAQ)

209 I don't know, but have rednecks discovered the fun in shooting windmills yet? They tore up some serious roadside signage in my life time. Methinks this would focus on long rifles and not shotguns. And you'd have to stop the truck and put down the beer to be accurate.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (D8mow)

210 The racism nuttery aside, she's not wrong about this status symbol BS. Why the hell else would feel the need to share what your pantry looks like?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:43 AM (KbCG3)

Because organizing your pantry is boring as h ll and showing it off makes it more fun. And people watch it because their life is a complete mess and they can dream of being organized.

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (BD/yx)

211 ICC issues arrest warrant on Putin over war crimes.

Ooooh, I'm so scared. See me shaking?

Posted by: Vlad at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (eOEVl)

212 D bests T among all voters, but both still lose to B.
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We really enjoy love the inflation, bank failures, possible nuclear war and all other sorts of destruction from B and want to keep it around for another 4 years.
-Avg.voter and assorted pre-filled ballots.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (fs1hN)

213 Buck Throckmorton

Interesting and timely post.

My part of Kansas is downwind of very large arrays of wind turbines. We had a dry winter.

IIANM, wind is the transfer mechanism for heat imbalances in Earth's atmosphere. If that energy balance is siphoned off for power, what other mechanism will occur? Tornadoes, hurricanes, straight line winds?

The SF book Mother of Storms by John Barnes had a sorta happy ending, helped by AI. We may not be so lucky.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (u82oZ)

214 193 The racism nuttery aside, she's not wrong about this status symbol BS. Why the hell else would feel the need to share what your pantry looks like?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:43 AM (KbCG3)

House and Garden has been around for almost 100 years show casing homes and interiors. It's just another small subset of this display.

Posted by: polynikes at March 17, 2023 11:46 AM (7HLtt)

I'm not saying that this is a new thing but wanting to show off your pantry or any part of your house in this manner is a form of showcasing what you consider to be a status symbol.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (KbCG3)

215 doesn't mean we also have to come up with counter-arguments that are just as ludicrous and fanciful as theirs are.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 17, 2023 11:36 AM (MvF+J)

I tend to stick with "fuck off dummies".

Posted by: ... at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (ovYNW)

216 84 Well, then, I guess we all die?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 17, 2023 11:24 AM (qh8B4)

Not fast enough for my liking, but, yeah.

Posted by: Herr Schwab at March 17, 2023 11:51 AM (DTX3h)

217 And all summer long, the damned thing just sits there, earning nothing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:32 AM (tkR6S)

Can't you just reverse the pitch of the blades and take heat out of the house?

Posted by: Fox 2! at March 17, 2023 11:51 AM (4GxJn)

218
Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:40 AM (RHGPo)

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I set my crystal ball to "2032:"

"President McGonigal's Secretary of Byzantine Folderol Enforcement announced today that, in light of racist cabinetry's negative effects on public health, all cabinets will be phased out in favor of scientifically sound, healthful middens.

Today on "The View," we'll be talking with social media super-influencer Ella Emhoff, to learn how *you* can "Pile In Style," and keep your kitchen looking modern & beautiful with her social-justice storage solutions."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2023 11:52 AM (oINRc)

219 I organize my pantry alphabetically, and in some cases, by ethnic food type. Why? Because I have lots of spices. I mean, A LOT. I don't generally show that off to visitors, but I'd be embarrassed to have a random mess, and besides, it's much easier to find what I'm looking for.

Heil Hitler!!!

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:52 AM (eOEVl)

220 Plants die sooner with cold if they're dry. The "old wisdom" here in the desert is to spray water on fruit trees if there's a late frost to save the pollen.

******

I have been told that a fine mist creates a little ice envelope that encloses the bud and actually (in a seemingly contradictory way) insulates the bud from a hard freeze. I don't think the pollen is a factor, it's the fruit bud that gets damaged by freeze.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 11:52 AM (ykeLU)

221 Because organizing your pantry is boring as h ll and showing it off makes it more fun. And people watch it because their life is a complete mess and they can dream of being organized.

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (BD/yx)

I too dream of being organized. But I decided to have kids instead...

Bye, bye, dreams.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:52 AM (KbCG3)

222 I'm guessing my carefully arranged library, with books in a proper order, is also "racist" (somehow).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 17, 2023 11:48 AM

Fo shizzle. Reading be acting white and shit.

Posted by: Your Kid's Ebonics Teacher at March 17, 2023 11:52 AM (Vl0Ta)

223 How to speak like an Irishman today:

Say the four words below as fast as you can -

Whale
Oil
Beef
Hooked

Posted by: Gref at March 17, 2023 11:53 AM (AMIL/)

224 Why? Why was this regime so mad? The Elimination – about his interviews with Duch, Khmer Rouge survivor Rithy Panh quotes Duch saying that in his world ‘there is no place for the individual’, and ‘beauty is an obstacle’.

... If Marxism means enforced equality, its ultimate endpoint is this. Individuals cannot be ‘allowed’ as they might be ‘different’, they might laugh or be happy, unlike others. Beauty – physical, artistic, sexual, spiritual, intellectual – must likewise be ruthlessly extinguished, because it too prevents a Marxist Utopia. Beauty is unfair. It must be eliminated.

So too, must your car, microwave, indoor plumbing, heart surgery, antibiotics, art, and freedom be destroyed.

Laugh at the spindly arms and neck beards. Go ahead. Laugh. And then look at the baby tree, and remember Pol Pot.

Posted by: Pol Pot at March 17, 2023 11:53 AM (nJKlN)

225
Because organizing your pantry is boring as h ll and showing it off makes it more fun. And people watch it because their life is a complete mess and they can dream of being organized.
Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (BD/yx)

My house is disastrously messy. If I ever get it cleaned up it's possible I would post a pic somewhere.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 11:53 AM (eGTCV)

226 But what happens if there is a little propeller on that rock?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 17, 2023 11:48 AM

It would be a boat.

Posted by: K Harrris at March 17, 2023 11:53 AM (oE0yX)

227 My natural skepticism always kicks in.

As does mine. It's a healthy reaction these days. I just can't fathom anyone thinking that this enviro-madness in any way, shape or form is relatively benign.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 17, 2023 11:53 AM (Xrfse)

228 Whale
Oil
Beef
Hooked
Posted by: Gref at March 17, 2023 11:53 AM (AMIL/)

iswydt

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2023 11:54 AM (AwYPR)

229 I'm sure this has been noted; where solar panel "farms" have sprouted up the ecosystems around them are trashed. First off you've got the inherited temp issues. Nothing can grow under them. And the surrounding area is typically clear cut to make sure nothing interferes with the panels ability to capture sunlight for as long as possible.

The area immediately around one of these farms is barren of life.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 17, 2023 11:54 AM (8UGFR)

230 Plants die sooner with cold if they're dry. The "old wisdom" here in the desert is to spray water on fruit trees if there's a late frost to save the pollen.

The shift of states, of water to ice, uses more energy than cold that doesn't involve a change in states.

No?
Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:45 AM (BD/yx)

On still, clear nights, you can get what is called "radiation frost", even if the air temperature is above the freezing point. The night sky is about 4 degrees Kelvin, so anything warmer, like, say, the Earth, or a lemon tree, or your car, will radiate heat out into deep space by black-body radiation, and thereby become cold, possibly even colder than the surrounding air. Putting fans in orchards moves that above-freezing air around, and keeps the delicate buds from freezing by radiation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:54 AM (tkR6S)

231 Oh, it is really bright outside? Here, let me turn down your backlight for you. No, sir, you may not override.

-My iPhone.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 17, 2023 11:54 AM (qh8B4)

232 Ice and steam are both poor conductors of heat, yet liquid water is a very good one. People have no appreciation for how unique good old H2O really is.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 17, 2023 11:54 AM (UuD2k)

233 So if my house is messy it means I'm not rayciss! Gee honey, I'd clean the basement, but, well it's black history month. Sorry.

Posted by: K Harrris at March 17, 2023 11:55 AM (oE0yX)

234 “neatly aligned glass spice jars tagged with printed white labels”
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Ah, the ubiquitous and yet overlooked "white" supremacist labels. There's your evidence of systemic racism right there.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 17, 2023 11:55 AM (fs1hN)

235 Marxists have a strange concept of utopia. It's like a Satanic utopia

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 11:55 AM (eGTCV)

236 Off dumb V.P. Sock

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2023 11:55 AM (oE0yX)

237 Slowing the rotation of Earth will make days longer
Win!

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2023 11:55 AM (MYW11)

238
I too dream of being organized. But I decided to have kids instead...

Bye, bye, dreams.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:52 AM (KbCG3)

I want a response heart or gif or something.

Kids are worth it.

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:56 AM (BD/yx)

239 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (KbCG3)

Lot of wealthy black people have no problem having their home shown in Architectural Digest all the way to MTV Cribs. People like to show off things they have done , accomplished or collected is all I'm saying and a natural human action.

Posted by: polynikes at March 17, 2023 11:56 AM (7HLtt)

240 Slowing the rotation of Earth will make days longer
Win!

Be careful what you wish for.

Posted by: Mercury at March 17, 2023 11:56 AM (eOEVl)

241 A Loyola University professor is claiming that organized pantries are rooted in “racist and sexist social structures,” and that the new so-called “pantry porn” trend, in which people show off their “neatly aligned glass spice jars tagged with printed white labels”

Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 11:40 AM (RHGPo)

I have these. But that's because I'm OCD, not because I'm a white woman.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 17, 2023 11:56 AM (DRSnL)

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Posted by: Greta Strapped to a Windmill at March 17, 2023 11:57 AM (oE0yX)

243 I don't know, but have rednecks discovered the fun in shooting windmills yet? They tore up some serious roadside signage in my life time. Methinks this would focus on long rifles and not shotguns. And you'd have to stop the truck and put down the beer to be accurate.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2023 11:50 AM (D8mow)

I used to go to texas twice a year for the guitar shows. Every year going through Arkansas we would see the sign "Hope, Arkansas. Birthplace of bill clinton", and it would have more and more bullet holes every year. They eventually had to change it because it looked like a colander. One year I pulled over and got a picture of it. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 17, 2023 11:57 AM (VwHCD)

244 Is neatly trimmed bush racist? Or is it 60s bush that's racist?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 11:57 AM (eGTCV)

245 238
I too dream of being organized. But I decided to have kids instead...

Bye, bye, dreams.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:52 AM (KbCG3)

I want a response heart or gif or something.

Kids are worth it.
Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 11:56 AM (BD/yx)

The mess they left this morning after I repeatedly told them to stop playing with the new vacuum cleaner box's styrofoam says otherwise.

Okay, that's a lie. They're worth it but man do I miss being able to see my floors, ha.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 11:57 AM (KbCG3)

246 #212
Inflation has decreased for the last 8 months it is now down to 6% just about the same as the increase in wages.
Average wind speeds in the USA have increased by 4% over the last 22years.
Lol
Buck!! Aren't you embarrassed by your post ?
What will you post next? That wind turbines ste making out weather more windy?
Rather than simply accept what others tell you
CHECK PRIMARY SOURCES

Am I the only one who fact checks?

Posted by: Paul at March 17, 2023 11:57 AM (wlnjm)

247 Is neatly trimmed bush racist? Or is it 60s bush that's racist?

Just assume that everything is racist. It saves time.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:57 AM (eOEVl)

248 What's the opposite of OCD?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 11:58 AM (eGTCV)

249 Laugh at the spindly arms and neck beards. Go ahead. Laugh. And then ~~look at the baby tree, and remember Pol Pot~~ make sure you have a proper zero on your weapon.
Posted by: Pol Pot at March 17, 2023 11:53 AM

FIFY.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 11:58 AM (Vl0Ta)

250 Calling it a climate "religion" is giving them too much credit. It's a cult.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 17, 2023 11:58 AM (iFTx/)

251 Being now a Marxist historian reader even Karl had no idea where it was going, it's a destruction of society and see what happens. Even today's Cultural Marxist have no clue where it's going to go, just their little group will win.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2023 11:58 AM (MYW11)

252 Please give me one thing I can do that is not racist.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 11:59 AM (eGTCV)

253 Am I the only one who sucks cock?
Posted by: Paul at March 17, 2023 11:57 AM

F

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Posted by: Greta Strapped to a Windmill at March 17, 2023 11:59 AM (oE0yX)

254
Am I the only one who fact checks?

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You misspelled "eats his own monkeypox scabs," homie.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2023 11:59 AM (oINRc)

255 Posted by: Paul at March 17, 2023 11:57 AM (wlnjm)

You're the last retard to be telling others about cause and effect.

Posted by: polynikes at March 17, 2023 11:59 AM (7HLtt)

256 Please give me one thing I can do that is not racist.

Trying to find nonracist things is racist.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:59 AM (eOEVl)

257 On still, clear nights, you can get what is called "radiation frost", (...explanation...) Putting fans in orchards moves that above-freezing air around, and keeps the delicate buds from freezing by radiation.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 11:54 AM (tkR6S)

Oh! That makes sense. I'd never have considered that at all. Thanks!

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2023 12:00 PM (BD/yx)

258 What's the lifespan of one of those turbine blades? How do you dispose of them?
Posted by: Just Wondering at March 17, 2023 11:32 AM (DhOHl)

The practice appears to be to wait for them to be struck by lightning and then burn.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 17, 2023 12:00 PM (yQpMk)

259 252 Please give me one thing I can do that is not racist.
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DIE? er, sorry DEI?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 17, 2023 12:00 PM (fs1hN)

260 I've been in Africa and I've seen people sweeping dirt off dirt floors. Were they being racist?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 12:00 PM (eGTCV)

261 My Pantry identifies as a hall closet, so it cannot be racist.

Posted by: Czech Chick at March 17, 2023 12:00 PM (6Tc2R)

262 "The shift of states, of water to ice, uses more energy than cold that doesn't involve a change in states. No?" Posted by: Synova

good point, I had to look up more detail, for those interested.

"Essentially, as the air temperature surrounding the plants drops below freezing levels, the water begins to freeze and crystalize, releasing approximately 80 calories of heat for every 0.03 ounces (1 gram) of water that freezes. As the ice encases the plant it partially insulates it from the harsh exterior temperatures.

Sprinklers provide a 2 to 5-degree temperature difference, which is just enough to protect the plants.

As long as water is constantly wetting the plant, the system should successfully protect them from severe damage. The ice should appear relatively clear. If there is a clear liquid-ice mixture coating the plants and water is dripping off the ice, then the application rate is sufficient to prevent damage. If the water freezes and has a milky white appearance, then the application rate is too low for the weather conditions.* Thus, the water application must be much more uniform than required for irrigation so that no area receives less than the designated amount."

Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2023 12:00 PM (Cus5s)

263 Please give me one thing I can do that is not racist.
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 11:59 AM (eGTCV)

Sorry, I got nothin'.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 17, 2023 12:00 PM (DRSnL)

264 Am I the only one who fact checks?

You do nothing of the sort. You show up, drop the load that's in your diaper on a thread and leave.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 17, 2023 12:00 PM (Xrfse)

265 Can't you just reverse the pitch of the blades and take heat out of the house?
Posted by: Fox 2! at March 17, 2023 11:51 AM (4GxJn)

Oh, I never bought it, because I recognized the opportunity cost was too high. But no, it was not reversible. Not a heat pump; it made heat by fluid friction. Like a torque converter at stall, where the engine's power is made into heat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2023 12:00 PM (tkR6S)

266 What's the opposite of OCD?
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 11:58 AM (eGTCV)

***

DCO

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 17, 2023 12:01 PM (flINI)

267 207 I see. So what she's saying is that blacks are slovenly and disorganized?
Posted by: Archimedes

Racist! They just have a different organization method that your bigoted brain can not comprehend.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 17, 2023 12:01 PM (qh8B4)

268 @70
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Our representatives ought to be setting their minds to ripping out legislation already passed that obscures the common sense language of our amazing founders.

Graham, Cornyn
heat of a thousand suns...

Posted by: micky at March 17, 2023 12:01 PM (3byMq)

269 More important question, does anyone believe any statements of "facts" made by Paul?

I certainly don't.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 17, 2023 12:01 PM (UuD2k)

270 ICC issues arrest warrant on Putin over war crimes.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2023 11:49 AM

Is so adorable. Sasha, you see this news? How the West says, LOL.

Posted by: Vlad at March 17, 2023 12:01 PM (Vl0Ta)

271 Paul is the pivot man for raimondo, sid with aviators, and boffo the assclown.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 17, 2023 12:01 PM (i0Kzs)

272 256 Please give me one thing I can do that is not racist.

Trying to find nonracist things is racist.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2023 11:59 AM (eOEVl)

You can die quietly. But no dignified funeral. No wake. And dressing in black connects blackness with sadness and depression. To become a full ally, you must demand that mourners wear nothing but white.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 17, 2023 12:01 PM (KbCG3)

273 It is always safe to assume that Kurt is wrong.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 17, 2023 12:02 PM (yQpMk)

274 More important question, does anyone believe any statements of "facts" made by Paul?

I certainly don't.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 17, 2023 12:01 PM

I still want to know who's maintaining that sock.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2023 12:02 PM (Vl0Ta)

275 Despite the ruthless slaughter of the Khmer Rouge that was not particularity well hidden, the American left still could not bring themselves to condemn it . I do remember hearing them blaming America for inflaming the passions and hate of the KR and kind of excusing it as kind of understandable. The reality it was so bad the f**ing Vietnamese communists invaded to put a stop to it. After that the American left came around and admitted, yeah killing fields are a bad thing.

Posted by: Ripley at March 17, 2023 12:02 PM (cUYo/)

276 But what happens if there is a little propeller on that rock?

And analogous to the question of the post, what happens to the water flow if you keep adding rocks?

Posted by: Oddbob at March 17, 2023 12:02 PM (nfrXX)

277 NOOD

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 17, 2023 12:02 PM (DRSnL)

278

What this thread needs is more Guns, Boobies, Kitties and Spice Cabinets...

Posted by: Ped Xing at March 17, 2023 12:02 PM (3b35n)

279 Please give me one thing I can do that is not racist.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 11:59 AM (eGTCV)

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I think the Canadians have a pill for that and a program called MAID (Medical Assistance In Dying). It's really the ultimate reparation ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 17, 2023 12:02 PM (wsx8x)

280 Please give me one thing I can do that is not racist.
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 17, 2023 11:59 AM (eGTCV)

Assuming you are white, commit suicide.

Posted by: Gref at March 17, 2023 12:03 PM (AMIL/)

281 Willowed from art thread. Sarah Goodridge was born 1788, painted Beauty Revealed in 1828. Think about it. Them's 40 years old right there.
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Churning butter is a great upper-body workout.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 17, 2023 12:03 PM (Vwz3I)

282 Marxists have a strange concept of utopia. It's like a Satanic utopia
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There you go getting all judgey again, to the camps with you!!!

Posted by: Pol Pot at March 17, 2023 12:04 PM (SHczZ)

283 Hunter Biden Sues Laptop Repair Shop Owner Over Alleged Invasion of Privacy
President Joe Biden’s son on March 17 sued a laptop repairman for allegedly invading his privacy. Hunter Biden countersued John Paul Mac Isaac, who owned a computer store in Delaware at which Hunter Biden was said to have dropped off his computer years ago. Mac Isaac’s sharing of information from Hunter Biden constitutes invasion of privacy, the 42-page filing states.

Posted by: SMOD at March 17, 2023 12:04 PM (RHGPo)

284 And analogous to the question of the post, what happens to the water flow if you keep adding rocks?
Posted by: Oddbob at March 17, 2023 12:02 PM (nfrXX)

Fair analogy but we would have to have 90% of all land covered with windmills to be a logical comparison. Same with coal plants, oil spills, aerosol usage, Freon , etc.

Posted by: polynikes at March 17, 2023 12:05 PM (7HLtt)

285 the long con artists say to never ever give up the con

Posted by: yoeman at March 17, 2023 12:07 PM (BYNHj)

286 Despite the ruthless slaughter of the Khmer Rouge that was not particularity well hidden, the American left still could not bring themselves to condemn it . I do remember hearing them blaming America for inflaming the passions and hate of the KR and kind of excusing it as kind of understandable. The reality it was so bad the f**ing Vietnamese communists invaded to put a stop to it. After that the American left came around and admitted, yeah killing fields are a bad thing.
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No High School Student should be able to graduate without taking a history course that includes extensive historical study or Khymer Rouge, Pol Pot and the Killing Fields.

Posted by: Its not just a movie - its real at March 17, 2023 12:07 PM (+uFL8)

287 I pity the PHool

Posted by: Mr T at March 17, 2023 12:08 PM (RHGPo)

288 I think that is about mixing the air with warmer air above. I'm in a sort of valley, on still nights with few clouds it can get about 10 degrees colder than the higher ground official temps at the airport.
Posted by: illiniwek

*****

It is interesting how much local topography can affect microclimates. The fruit growing areas of western Colorado are an example. The Grand Mesa sits at the far eastern end (around Palisade) where the Colorado River emerges from DeBeque Canyon. The interface of the low-lying course of the river and the air mass streaming down the face of Grand Mesa creates a few square miles of ideal microclimate on a shelf of land between the Mesa and the river. This is called Orchard Mesa. Similar soil a few miles north or west does not produce fruit as well, and is more susceptible to freeze damage. Ironically, 20-some miles to the west, Fruita produces very little fruit, despite its name.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 12:09 PM (ykeLU)

289 Willowed from art thread. Sarah Goodridge was born 1788, painted Beauty Revealed in 1828. Think about it. Them's 40 years old right there.
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Churning butter is a great upper-body workout.
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Can I haz topless butter churning videos?

Posted by: LOL Moron! at March 17, 2023 12:09 PM (+uFL8)

290 Even when a young kid during Vietnam I thought the Democrats were Communist sympathetic.
And do think Global warming fanatics is a Religion sect of the Cultural Marxism

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2023 12:09 PM (MYW11)

291 286 Despite the ruthless slaughter of the Khmer Rouge that was not particularity well hidden, the American left still could not bring themselves to condemn it .

Noam Chomsky still has not said his support for the Khmer Rouge was wrong.

Posted by: Mr T at March 17, 2023 12:10 PM (RHGPo)

292 Am I the only one who fact checks?
Posted by: Paul at March 17, 2023 11:57 AM (wlnjm)

I'm torn between Shut Up, Dunce and hey this guy made a funny!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 17, 2023 12:11 PM (FCbAQ)

293 muldoon;
while we are both here i am interested in why there is no longer water under the bridge in town. i spent the 50s and 60s there hunting and fishing ?
thank you

Posted by: yoeman at March 17, 2023 12:16 PM (BYNHj)

294 Noam Chomsky still has not said his support for the Khmer Rouge was wrong.

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Most of these people hate humankind. They are happy to see masses of them gotten rid of, and think everyone should be in as much misery and suffering as possible because they are.

Not infrequently these people tend to admit it as well. They can't help it. The absorb a critical mass of miserable angry people, take over and the killing begins in earnest. Its always the same, everywhere, every time. It is satantic. They give themselves over to hate /envy and destruction/ death is all they can produce. Russia spread its errors through the world and the effects will ripple on and on. We were warned.

Posted by: I wish I was a shepard boy at March 17, 2023 12:16 PM (HAYwT)

295 There is not a single windmill, anywhere, to my knowledge, that breaks even financially without subsidies.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 17, 2023 12:18 PM (lTGtQ)

296 Groups opposing this smart military blog just may have uncovered our weakness.
It was in the last thread.

Now they know if they want to derail us they only have to post pictures of boobies.

And if they are boobies attributed to the Great Daddario we will self combust.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at March 17, 2023 12:19 PM (Oq/TM)

297 while we are both here i am interested in why there is no longer water under the bridge in town. i spent the 50s and 60s there hunting and fishing ?
thank you
Posted by: yoeman

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What bridge? The I-70 bridge east of Palisade? Maybe water levels are low with diversion into the irrigation canals. I don't get up to that end of the valley much. There is normal flow for this time of year (pre-runoff) in the Colorado River downstream from the junction with the Gunnison. I drive that bridge every time I go into town.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2023 12:23 PM (ykeLU)

298 Wait a sec? By reducing local sir speeds, that causes the soil to dry? But I thought that moving air helps things to dry out? And the turbines reduce sir speeds? That seems counter intuitive
Buck ate you a high school grad?

Posted by: Paul at March 17, 2023 12:27 PM (ScSU3)

299 Wait a sec? By reducing local sir speeds, that causes the soil to dry? But I thought that moving air helps things to dry out? And the turbines reduce sir speeds? That seems counter intuitive
Buck ate you a high school grad?
Posted by: Paul at March 17, 2023 12:27 PM

I'm sure you ate plenty of high schoolers groomer.

Posted by: NEA at March 17, 2023 12:33 PM (oE0yX)

300 So what happens if, with all the turbines required you institute an adverse reaction that can't be reversed?

Do we all sit around and die?

Posted by: irongrampa at March 17, 2023 12:43 PM (KATBx)

301 The very local wind speed varies with altitude so the lower blades do not deflect as much and have lower drag. As they rotate at some frequency, they pass through speeds where these periodic flexures can build up resonances depending on the specific vibrational modes. It's a very complicated process with all kinds of intermodal dependencies and require a ton of computational power to model.

Posted by: pawn at March 17, 2023 12:48 PM (kYVzH)

302 > Constant wind has a drying effect.

Wind farms don't create wind, they diminish it.

Posted by: comradearthur at March 17, 2023 12:56 PM (RiJkj)

303 If these wind farms are pulling all that energy out of the atmosphere, shouldn't that cause the atmosphere to cool?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 17, 2023 01:18 PM (K58O6)

304 I guess the first question I'd ask is: what is the total wind energy of the atmosphere? Then I'd ask: how much energy is removed by windmills? I have no idea what the correct answers are, but I'll take a wild guess: the former exceeds the latter by at least fifteen orders of magnitude.
- Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 17, 2023 11:25 AM
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About 2 percent of the total solar energy hitting the Earth ends up as wind energy. That's a hell of a lot, about 3,460 TW of wind energy by my calculation. I think the world total energy usage from all sources is a bit less than 18 TW.

Anything humanity does with energy moves heat around. Anything at all. I'm not going to play the game of "windmills are destroying the world" any more than I'm going to play the game of "natural gas power plants are destroying the world."

Posted by: MartynWW at March 17, 2023 01:23 PM (Ur3df)

305 Looks more and more that the wind farms in the North Sea are proving that they elites just want to reduce the food supply and therein the population. All in the name of clean energy.

Posted by: Sergeant Major at March 17, 2023 01:55 PM (hM+Ep)

306 George Carlin, always a must-see on this topic!

https://tinyurl.com/7jdnrcr9

Posted by: m at March 17, 2023 02:04 PM (CQE5S)

307 Nothing is free.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 17, 2023 02:38 PM (vDj4Y)

308 The Eco-Freaks should start opposing Wind and Solar power its not good for the Birds and Whales

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at March 17, 2023 05:49 PM (wGqjj)

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