NYT Statistician and Election Analyst Nate Cohn: No, Fox News Should Have Never Called Arizona on Election Night. I Knew We Couldn't Call Arizona Until All Votes Were Counted. Why Didn't Fox?

He also says that Jonah Goldberg is a great sweaty fat fuck of a failure who doesn't read anything deeper than Twitter.

By implication, you understand.

Last week, grotesque low-T toad and Soros Towelboy Jonah Goldberg called Fox News viewers "snowflakes" for continuing to dispute very early Fox News' call of Arizona.

Column: If only Tucker Carlson's treatment of woke snowflakes were aimed at Fox News viewers

By Jonah Goldberg
Columnist
March 7, 2023 3:15 AM PT

If you search for "safe space" on the Foxnews.com website you'll get over 46,000 results. All of them aren't about those woke snowflakes who need trigger warnings and cry rooms. But a lot of them are.

For instance, in 2017, shortly after the inauguration of Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson grilled a college professor about a student who came into her classroom crying about the election. "As the adult shouldn't you say, 'You know, it was an election, and it was democratic, and nobody got cancer, nobody died, and maybe you should toughen up a little?' "

Would that Carlson and the rest of Fox's leadership had a similar attitude toward their own audience, the average age of which is 56.

"A little more than a week after television networks called the 2020 presidential election for Joseph R. Biden Jr.," the New York Times' Peter Baker reported, "top executives and anchors at Fox News held an after-action meeting to figure out how they had messed up."

The primary mess-up was the network's decision to call Arizona for Joe Biden at 11:20 p.m. on election night. The call infuriated the Trump campaign and viewers alike.

Save for Washington managing editor Bill Sammon, who also served on the "Decision Desk" that made the call, attendees at the meeting believed the Arizona announcement hurt Fox's "brand" -- not because they got it wrong, or even because they got it right. It hurt the brand because it hurt people's feelings.

That's it. Calling Arizona had no real-world effect. Arizona's polls -- and polls everywhere except for solidly Democratic Hawaii -- were closed. It was a bit like telling a fan who recorded the Super Bowl that his team lost before he had a chance to finish watching the game. It was mean, but no one wanted to tell the audience to "toughen up."

Of course, Trump himself was angry for another reason. He'd encouraged his voters to vote on election day so he could claim to be ahead that night and declare victory before mail-in votes were counted the next day. He thought he could then win in the courts or Congress. As Steve Bannon admitted before the election, this was always the plan. But the Arizona call made it harder to claim he was ever beating Biden.

It's unclear whether some Fox opinion hosts were complicit or simply useful idiots in this scheme. But there's no evidence the executives were in on any of that. Their overriding concern was simply not to hurt the feelings of the viewers and thereby lose them to upstart pro-Trump rivals One America News Network and Newsmax, which were all too happy to be safe spaces for election fraud lies.

By the way, Jonah's fellow fatso Chris Stirewalt is implicated in this call. Stirewalt posts at The Dispatch. Jonah Cowberg gives no hint that he might have a bias in writing this column, to defend fellow fugitive from Jenny Craig Chris Stirewalt.

As I responded to this lazy porker's "column" last week, the margin in the race was so close -- under 0.5%, I said, 0.3% to be precise -- that the race was actually a "coin flip" which could not be called until all votes were counted.

I also said this was not statistical analysis, this was merely "guessing."

Actually -- and how many times do we have to point this out to the chronically ignorant and dishonest, like Jonah? -- the eventual recount showed that the difference between Trump votes and Biden votes was razor-thin, and FoxNews' estimate of what the actual vote was, a 5% difference, I think, their "experts" proclaimed, was wildly wrong. And no, no election-caller would call an election if they knew the difference between two candidates was less than 1%.

It was a coinflip, as they say. Therefore it should not have been called -- no other organization called it until, I believe, the next day.

But Jonah and his Fellow Fatty Chris Stirewalt say they were right to call it because the random flip of the coin that determined the ultimate winner did turn out to be, supposedly, Biden.

That is not statistical analysis -- that is guessing.

Via John Sexton, the New York Times' poll analyst Nate Cohn reviews the prediction and agrees with me, using the same "coin flip" and "guessing" terminology I did.

And he says that no decision desk would have called Arizona so early if they had any idea about the composition of the outstanding mail-in vote, which was largely Republican.

And he says that competent analysts such as himself strongly suspected the late mail-in vote -- mailed in votes on the day of the election, or just before -- would trend heavily Republican, and therefore no competent analyst would call Arizona before all or almost of that vote came in and was counted.

But Fox News' decision desk was not competent.

If you're a subscriber to this newsletter, my guess is you'd be interested in my colleague Peter Baker's article about the drama at Fox News in the aftermath of its decision to call Arizona for Joe Biden on election night.

Here's the short version: Fox News executives, news anchors and pundits were enraged over the call, with messages and a recording showing they thought it hurt ratings and threatened to "impact the brand" by alienating Donald J. Trump's supporters.

Most people would agree that political and branding concerns shouldn't dictate an election call by a news organization. But the article has nonetheless rekindled an old debate about whether Fox News was really "right" to call Arizona for Mr. Biden on election night in 2020.

This debate can be a little confusing, since Fox was right in the most important sense: It said Mr. Biden would win Arizona, and he ultimately did.

But a race call is not an ordinary prediction. It's not like calling heads or tails in a coin toss. A race call means that a candidate has something like a 99.9 percent chance of winning. As a result, a call can be wrong, even if the expected outcome ends up happening. If you assert that there's a 99.9 percent chance that a coin flip will come up heads, you're wrong -- regardless of what happens next.

Of course, everyone knows heads or tails is a 50-50 proposition. It's much harder to know whether Mr. Biden had a 50.1 percent or 99.9 percent chance of winning Arizona based on the data available at 11:20 p.m. Eastern on election night, when Fox called the state for Mr. Biden. Most other news organizations didn't think so; only The Associated Press, a few hours later, joined Fox in making the call so quickly. And in the end, Mr. Biden won Arizona by just three-tenths of a percentage point -- a margin evoking a coin flip.

Was the Fox call the result of the most sophisticated and accurate modeling, or more like being "right" when calling heads in a coin flip? It appears to be the latter -- a lucky and dangerous guess -- based on a review of televised statements by the Fox News decision team and publicly available data about the network's modeling.

The Fox team believed Mr. Biden would win Arizona by a comfortable margin at the time the call was made, based on erroneous assumptions and flawed polling. While it worked out for Fox in the end, similarly risky decisions could have easily led to a missed call, with potentially dire consequences for trust in American elections.

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In a recording of a Fox Zoom meeting two weeks after the election obtained by The Times, Mr. Mishkin acknowledged that the Arizona call appeared "premature" but that "it did land correctly."

A Fox spokesperson on Sunday said that "Fox News continues to stand by its decision desk's accurate call of Arizona."

Still, there is a compelling body of publicly available evidence suggesting that Fox, when it called the state, fundamentally misunderstood the remaining votes. It did not imagine that Mr. Trump could come so close to winning.

At the time Fox called Arizona, Mr. Biden led Mr. Trump by 8.5 percentage points, with an estimated 73 percent of the expected vote counted. The tabulated votes were mainly mail ballots received well ahead of the election. To win, Mr. Trump needed to take about 61 percent of the remaining votes.

...

A person with knowledge of how the call was made, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that the Fox team believed that the early returns confirmed the Fox News Voter Analysis. Indeed, Mr. Biden's early lead seemed to match the survey's findings among early voters, who broke for Mr. Biden by 10 points in the survey, 54 percent to 44 percent. The implication was that Mr. Biden was on track for a clear victory.

When asked on election night on Fox to explain the Arizona call, Mr. Mishkin rejected the notion that Mr. Trump would do well in the outstanding ballots. Instead, he said he expected Mr. Biden to win the remaining vote:

"We've heard from the White House that they need to get just 61 percent of the expected vote and they'll be getting that." He added: "But the reality is that's just not true. They're likely to only get 44 percent of the outstanding vote."

Note: Trump got 59% of the remaining vote. Per Arizona's official counting, which you may take with a grain of sand.

Mishkin expected these votes to go to Biden. That's why he was so smugly arrogant in announcing Trump just could never get 61% of the vote.

Turns out -- 59%. A kiss on the wind away from 61%.

Again, even Mishkin admitted later this call was "premature."

Why can't Chubbs McNepotism admit it?

...

Through a Fox News spokesperson, Mr. Mishkin said he "misspoke on election night" when he said Fox expected Mr. Biden to win the remaining vote. If Mr. Mishkin did misspeak, there was still no indication that the Fox team expected Mr. Trump to win the remaining votes by a meaningful margin -- let alone an overwhelming margin.
On air on election night, Mr. Mishkin offered two main reasons to expect Mr. Biden to fare well in the remaining vote:

"Yes, there are some outstanding votes in Arizona. Most of them are coming from Maricopa, where Biden is currently in a very strong position. And many of them are mail-in votes, where we know from our Fox News Voter Analysis that Biden has an advantage."

On their face, these arguments weren't outlandish. Mr. Biden won Maricopa County, which is the home of Phoenix and a majority of Arizona voters. He won the mail vote in Arizona as well.

In the end, Mr. Trump won 59 percent of the remaining vote, all but erasing Mr. Biden's advantage.

He goes on to explain that only was it predictable that Trump would win these outstanding mail-in votes, but win them handily, and that Mishkin and Stirewalt and the rest of the Fox News Election HQ Brain Trust should have known this, too.

Basically, the early mail-in vote went to Democrats, because Democrats push that kind of voting.

But there were mail-in votes just before election day and even on election day. And these represented Republicans using the mail-in voting system, but attempting to vote on or very close to the actual election day, as tradition dictates.

Ahead of the election, it was clear that Democrats were turning in their ballots earlier than Republicans. As a result, the mail ballots counted on election night -- those received at least a few days before the election -- were likely to break for Mr. Biden by a wide margin.

The flip side: The voters who received mail ballots but had not yet returned them were very Republican. If they ultimately returned their ballots, these so-called "late" mail ballots counted after the election would break heavily for Mr. Trump.

Supposed "expert" and Hillary Clinton Donor Arnon Mishkin should have known this, if he's as infallible an expert as Fox News and Jonah Disgusting Fatbody pretend.

But he's not. He's incompetent, and a hack Democrat who would not be adverse for the hero points of telling his progressive friends and family to say "Hey, I was the first to call the election for Biden, how cool am I...?"

Nate Cohn says he knew that these ballots would either break Republican or at least could break Republican. He knew in advance that he would almost certainly not be able to call Arizona on election night-- they'd have to wait for those late mail-ins.

But in 2020, whether the late ballots would be overwhelmingly Republican was nonetheless "the big question," as I wrote before the election. As a result, we never contemplated the possibility of a call in Arizona on election night; it was an easy decision for us to reject the A.P. call without knowing exactly how the "late" mail ballots would break.

Again, here's the "expert" Johan Future Ozempic User says we're "snowflakes" to continue disputing:

When asked on television the day after the election if the so-called late mail voters could back Mr. Trump with more than 60 percent support, Mr. Mishkin dismissed the possibility, saying it could happen "if a frog had wings."

Mr. Mishkin said he did not "ascribe any significance" to whether mail voters turned in their ballots on Election Day. Instead, he expected the "late" ballots would "confirm" their call. He was confident the late data "would look like the data we've noticed throughout the count in Arizona," which to that point had shown Mr. Biden with a clear lead.

Mishkin's modeling was itself completely wrong in other states, too: Fox gave Biden a 95% chance to win North Carolina.

Actual result: an easy Trump win.

One indication that Fox's modeling was prone to overestimate Mr. Biden was its publicly available probability dials, which displayed the likelihood that Mr. Biden or Mr. Trump would win the key battleground states.

At various points, these estimates gave Mr. Biden at least an 87 percent chance of winning Ohio and at least a 76 percent chance of winning Iowa; Mr. Trump ultimately won both by nearly 10 points.

Maybe most tellingly, Fox gave Mr. Biden a 95 percent chance to win North Carolina -- even at a point when it was quite obvious that Mr. Trump would win the state once the Election Day vote had been counted.

Here's the difference between Fox News' atrociously-wrong voter modeling, and the New York Times'.

Fox News gave Biden a 95% chance of winning North Carolina.

The New York Times was predicting a Trump win by 1.7%.

And here was Mishkin doubling down on how much of an "expert" he is:

Comments

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1 Clever like bull; strong like Fox

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 05:31 PM (Vwz3I)

2 Mishkin.

Heh. Heh.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 05:32 PM (Vwz3I)

3 Problem is, Biden didn't win Arizona.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 13, 2023 05:32 PM (4kL7R)

4 The Mishkin Biden hockey stick graph!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 05:33 PM (Vwz3I)

5 'Yeah, we stole it. Fcuk you.'
-any democommie or rhino you ask

Posted by: Eromero at March 13, 2023 05:33 PM (MF3yS)

6 If you have to double down on something and turn out to be wrong you need to mea culpa, step back and reassess your models going forward.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 13, 2023 05:34 PM (uNylN)

7 Biden "won" Arizona like he " won" the general election....

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2023 05:35 PM (yezA1)

8 Ofc since FoxNews was in on the fix they could be confident...

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2023 05:35 PM (yezA1)

9 But Fox News' decision desk was not competent.
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Incompetence or collusion?

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 05:36 PM (Vwz3I)

10 If you have to double down on something and turn out to be wrong you need to mea culpa, step back and reassess your models going forward.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 13, 2023 05:34 PM (uNylN)

I can count on one hand the number of people not already in my inner circle that are able to do that these days.

Posted by: Catherine at March 13, 2023 05:36 PM (ZSsrh)

11 I'd sooner believe there are unicorns before I'll believe Biden got 80 million legitimate votes in 2020.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at March 13, 2023 05:37 PM (mnUzy)

12 It uhhh wasn't "guessing". Pretty much the opposite of "guessing".

Posted by: Thesokorus at March 13, 2023 05:37 PM (1ais2)

13 Arizona call was the signal to others, in Georgia, in Wisconsin, in Nevada...execute the plan. Recall Arizona was called just after Ohio and Florida went Trump. Panic set in.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at March 13, 2023 05:37 PM (4fYsM)

14 Doesn't matter... The fix was in elsewhere

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2023 05:37 PM (bs+z0)

15 Mishkin.

Heh. Heh.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 05:32 PM (Vwz3I)

Shut up, Beavis!

[smack]

Posted by: Butthead at March 13, 2023 05:39 PM (ZSK0i)

16 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2023 05:40 PM (T4tVD)

17 2020 "election" ... A nightmare we are living every day

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2023 05:40 PM (bs+z0)

18 They are setting the ground for repudiating Biden when the wheels come off civilization this Summer. They hope and pray that will save them.

Posted by: rd at March 13, 2023 05:40 PM (Z32m1)

19 "fellow fugitive from Jenny Craig"... top of the pops, Ace

Also, and this is not a joke, our favorite cuck, David Fwench. wrote a column for the NYT making the conservative case for castrating your children. It evidently is unconstitutional for the state to interfere with parental decisions. Or something. It was covered in "Not the Bee" but without your straight-razor wit.

Posted by: Fat Jonah of Krypton at March 13, 2023 05:40 PM (eDqf7)

20 Grotesque Low-T Toad would be an excellent name for a rock band that specializes in humiliation.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 13, 2023 05:40 PM (eOEVl)

21 the Arizona call stunk to high heaven and was something more than a "bad modeling error." it was, as the bra above posits, a signal.

I saw it live - was on the elliptical. was so pissed I jumped off and screamed at the tv for a while then turned off Fox News and haven't watched it a single minute since.

they are traitors.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 13, 2023 05:41 PM (w0NJk)

22 5, yeah, that's it exactly.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 13, 2023 05:42 PM (VohFI)

23 Always believe it when they say the quiet part out loud.
"We have put together one of the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organizations in the history of American politics."
~FJB

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 13, 2023 05:42 PM (gGI3i)

24 17 2020 "election" ... A nightmare we are living every day


please believe me - PA went hard for Trump

we did! we did

don't worry, we've been punished for .. I dunno not stopping the criminality? and Doug was in on this btw - Act 70 was his baby. Mr I'm Running for Senate now. spoiler asshat.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 13, 2023 05:42 PM (w0NJk)

25 "Yes, Prince Mishkin, what can we do for you?"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 13, 2023 05:43 PM (2hlEI)

26 Ace, the poet of invective, at the top of his form!

*chef's kiss*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 13, 2023 05:43 PM (VohFI)

27 Sure seems like Jonah spends a awful lot of time obsessing over what Tucker's viewers think. Just like the left-- they are obsessed with Fox News; it was their OrangeManBad before Trump and they are returning to their vomit.

It's also a pretty solid sign he doesn't watch Tucker and doesn't know anyone who does.

I'll bet a quick AI analysis will show that every quote Jonah used to pretend he watched is word-for-word cribbed from a left source.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 13, 2023 05:43 PM (XuB58)

28 treason never prospers cuz if it prospers none dare call it treason. rough approximation of John Harrington. I thought that was a line from Shakespeare but the interwebs say Harrington.

I'm well convinced there was treason in the form of various vote frauds, ruining votes in that red AZ county by having markers instead of proper pens at the voting precincts to bleed through and ruin ballots, etc. etc. But none dare call it treason cuz it worked and the deep state got their puppet installed.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 13, 2023 05:44 PM (3cGpq)

29 also 17 & 23

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 13, 2023 05:45 PM (VohFI)

30 Never liked Pence and I don't think I've ever said a nice word about him.

I believe Biden got no more than 30,000,000 votes.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 13, 2023 05:45 PM (Y2W8B)

31 Same assholes delayed calling Texas for quite a while even though it was not close.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 13, 2023 05:45 PM (KFhLj)

32 washrivergal I estimate like 40 mil but you are probably closer

it was a coup - or the finishing touches to a military coup started by releasing SARS II

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 13, 2023 05:46 PM (w0NJk)

33 It allowed the steal, plain and simple

Posted by: Gonzotx at March 13, 2023 05:46 PM (KAoCy)

34 Is our old decision desk still a thing? After dude flounced haven't heard much.

Posted by: NCKate at March 13, 2023 05:47 PM (d5Qya)

35
Someone needs to dye every hair on Jonah red, and drop him off at the Temple Institute.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 13, 2023 05:48 PM (oINRc)

36 Sure seems like Jonah spends a awful lot of time obsessing over what Tucker's viewers think.

He has to obsess over someone else's audience because he has none of his own. He's a grown man who has a newsletter.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 13, 2023 05:48 PM (KFhLj)

37 Pence = failed statesman, all around asshole. Not to be trusted except with a burnt out match.

If I dwell on the election - would not be prudent for my health or freedom.

All this suffering is deliberate. Even rivers of the correct blood will not wash this away.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 13, 2023 05:49 PM (u82oZ)

38 I suspected it was someone in the know it was going to be stolen

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2023 05:49 PM (xhxe8)

39 The NYT accurately projected an overwhelming Trump win: before midnight. The steal which followed was obvious by even modern standards, and was easily detected. Sure, no court would take the case, but then the Freisler Court wouldn't exactly investigate genocide. May our judges be retired like Freisler was.

Posted by: trev006 at March 13, 2023 05:50 PM (DTm0P)

40 "For instance, in 2017, shortly after the inauguration of Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson grilled a college professor about a student who came into her classroom crying about the election."

Kind of like your bloated, paunchy, jelly donut soaked, white hands, flaccid soft body crying for another shot at the buffet, Jonah, you Twitter dunce.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 13, 2023 05:50 PM (HDGM5)

41 Of course, Trump himself was angry for another reason. He'd encouraged his voters to vote on election day so he could claim to be ahead that night and declare victory before mail-in votes were counted the next day. He thought he could then win in the courts or Congress. As Steve Bannon admitted before the election, this was always the plan.

He said no such thing. That was not the plan. What Bannon stated was that they wanted voters to vote on the day of the election so that it would be more challenging for the left to come up with enough votes to throw the election, which they managed to do anyway.

Its bad enough to go through life fat, drunk, and stupid, but to add dishonest and misleading to that seems excessive for even Jonah Goldberg.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2023 05:50 PM (0hOvj)

42 And yet, some people that call themselves conservative, some right here, still watch that shit network.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 13, 2023 05:50 PM (DMyTF)

43 It's hard to believe, but Jonah comes off sounding like a lunatic. This world he inhabits is stifling and fat.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 13, 2023 05:51 PM (Jg7EG)

44 34 Is our old decision desk still a thing? After dude flounced haven't heard much.
Posted by: NCKate at March 13, 2023 05:47 PM (d5Qya)

Maybe? I wouldn't know - it's one thing to peacefully move on from places and communities like these because *insert reason here, life, etc*, but it's quite another to have gotten help and then turn around and shit on the very audience who helped and boosted you up.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 13, 2023 05:51 PM (Rl7KJ)

45 The bottom line is this:

WHY did Fox do this? What were they trying to accomplish? What was their goal and intent? We can all guess, and probably be close to the truth but really, why?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2023 05:51 PM (0hOvj)

46 Same assholes delayed calling Texas for quite a while even though it was not close. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 13, 2023 05:45 PM (KFhLj)

Texas could have been called as soon as the polls closed in El Paso (Mountain Time), but that would have given Trump a lead in electoral votes, which Fox refused to let him have at any point in the night.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 13, 2023 05:52 PM (7B5FA)

47 BlackOrchid, I still marvel at the magnitude of treachery the deepstate committed to get rid of one man, President Trump. The only greater hatred they have is for us. They'll do anything to keep power. We must be willing to do anything to take it from them. Anything.

Posted by: Eromero at March 13, 2023 05:52 PM (MF3yS)

48 Isn't a Mishkin a sort-of, toupe for a Vajayjay?

Posted by: Gunslinger at March 13, 2023 05:52 PM (R2gO3)

49 Mishkin was a Dem operative and pollster, Stirewalt is a fat bloated never-Trump insider and Jonah is a great big fat person. Who do you think they were rooting for?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 13, 2023 05:52 PM (ZPsfc)

50 >>Sure seems like Jonah spends a awful lot of time obsessing over what Tucker's viewers think.

There were a number of reports that Tucker helped ease that greasy fat fucks early retirement from Fox.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2023 05:53 PM (ZLI7S)

51 Thrawn, that's happened a lot here over the years. From the beginning.

Posted by: NCKate at March 13, 2023 05:53 PM (d5Qya)

52 I Knew We Couldn't Call Arizona Until All Votes Were Counted. Why Didn't Fox?

I have no idea.

Posted by: Benedict Arnold at March 13, 2023 05:53 PM (xttsV)

53 > And yet, some people that call themselves conservative, some right here, still watch that shit network.

Not everything on the network is that bad. Tucker is a notable example.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 13, 2023 05:54 PM (eyxn4)

54
Fvck Fox. NewsMax gets better every day.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 13, 2023 05:54 PM (enJYY)

55 I watch Tucker clips on Rumble

helps me live with myself

f&ck fox

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 13, 2023 05:54 PM (w0NJk)

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Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 05:54 PM (Vwz3I)

57 I'm going to take the unpopular stance that Biden's vote totals were largely legitimate. The margins in AZ, GA, and WI were slim, and those three were enough to give Biden the presidency. I suspect that the Steal was a last minute thing, brought about by panic at the early House returns, which showed that Trump might not just win, but would drag the GOP back into a slim majority. The Dems had expected to gain seats in the House and take the Senate outright.

The hostility by the GOP in those states to any in depth investigation is due to fears that it would reveal how poorly managed the elections were. Kari Lake's lawsuit showed that Maricopa county was a shitshow of incompetence and failure to abide by established election procedures or laws.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 13, 2023 05:55 PM (wmDcS)

58 Thrawn, that's happened a lot here over the years. From the beginning. Posted by: NCKate at March 13, 2023 05:53 PM (d5Qya)

Did someone summon me?

Posted by: Mabriel Galor at March 13, 2023 05:55 PM (7B5FA)

59 Let me fix this:

Jonahfat shitGoldberg
Columnist Communist
March 7, 2023 3:15 AM PT

And, BTW what the hell is is doing to himself at 0315 in the morning?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2023 05:55 PM (Q4IgG)

60 Trump was up by over 570,000 votes in PA in the middle of the night

come on Alex

no PA was STOLEN

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 13, 2023 05:55 PM (w0NJk)

61 "It hurt the brand because it hurt people's feelings."

Brands are canned feelings that marketers concoct to make people feel good about buying their shit.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 05:56 PM (MvF+J)

62 How is it that we knew all this shit was going on but these folks are just figuring it out? What difference does it make at this point? The damage is done and nobody will pay.

Posted by: fd at March 13, 2023 05:56 PM (iayUP)

63 "Johan Future Ozempic user"

BWHAHAHAAH Good one, Ace.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2023 05:56 PM (DcKNO)

64 Once again: Trump nor DeSantis will be allowed to win the presidency. The fix is already in. The deep state knows who'll be the next prez.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2023 05:57 PM (BdMk6)

65 62 How is it that we knew all this shit was going on but these folks are just figuring it out? What difference does it make at this point? The damage is done and nobody will pay.


I think things are getting bad enough that maybe, just maybe, the truth about the coup WILL in fact "get out."

do you honestly think Barry's Band of Retards know what to do to stop our currency collapse now? they do not. they're eyeing the exits

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 13, 2023 05:57 PM (w0NJk)

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NEW 🚨 Man sues Buffalo Wild Wings, claims ‘boneless’ is just chicken nuggets - New York Post

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 05:58 PM (Vwz3I)

67 The hostility by the GOP in those states to any in depth investigation is due to fears that it would reveal how poorly managed the elections were. Kari Lake's lawsuit showed that Maricopa county was a shitshow of incompetence and failure to abide by established election procedures or laws.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 13, 2023 05:55 PM (wmDcS)

Not incompetence. Complicity.

Posted by: Thesokorus at March 13, 2023 05:59 PM (Hgm+8)

68 Isn't a Mishkin a sort-of, toupe for a Vajayjay?
Posted by: Gunslinger at March 13, 2023 05:52 PM (R2gO3)
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Merkin.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 13, 2023 06:00 PM (2hlEI)

69 62 How is it that we knew all this shit was going on but these folks are just figuring it out? What difference does it make at this point? The damage is done and nobody will pay.

Posted by: fd at March 13, 2023 05:56 PM (iayUP)

++++

We knew the Trump "dossier" was an op.

We knew Hunter's laptop was legit.

We knew the election was stolen.

We knew the Covid crisis was fakery.

When the truth comes out and all the lies are admitted, it is only when it is too late and the damage is done.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 13, 2023 06:00 PM (Y2W8B)

70 Speaking of Goldbergs, I used to think the TV show was OK while Adam Goldberg was mostly in charge of it. I eventually got tired of it, and they got rid of Adam, so I stopped watching.

I randomly saw a few minutes of a recent episode and they got rid of the dad. I was curious why, so I google'd it. Apparently the actor was a MASSIVE asshole and after years of on set abuse, they finally canned him.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 13, 2023 06:00 PM (eyxn4)

71 Explain to me how blacks were more hyped up to vote for Biden than Obama.

81 million votes, my ass.

Please tell me we ALL remember there was ZERO excitement and/or crowds for Biden during his whole campaign.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2023 06:00 PM (DcKNO)

72 So, from the horses own mouth, VDH lurks here.

HE IS HERE!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2023 06:01 PM (up/3i)

73 What the fuck are these sweaty filthy cucks doing in the here-and-now about Biden?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 13, 2023 06:01 PM (Jg7EG)

74 Mishkin, merkin, close enough.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 13, 2023 06:01 PM (PwgoT)

75
NARRATOR: Jonah Goldberg, scribbler: Half a man, barely alive.

PIERRE OMIDYAR: Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. Twitter has the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic cuck. Jonah Goldberg will be that cuck. Dumber than he was before. Dumber -- Weaker -- Fatter."

Posted by: The $6 Million Newsletter at March 13, 2023 06:02 PM (oINRc)

76 Yo VDH! Fartclam, bro.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:02 PM (MvF+J)

77 > How is it that we knew all this shit was going on but these folks are just figuring it out?
____________

IMO it's because we, here at the HQ don't subscribe to the bullshit the media shoves down everyone's throats 24X7. Plus, we don't have an agenda, (other than potential world domination) like these asshats do.

I'm old, and I see a real lack of curiosity in the media these days. So much so that I really think the junta would be well advised to shut it all down and put natty-hair retard out in front of a camera from 7PM - 9PM every night on every station to parrot what you must think.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2023 06:02 PM (Q4IgG)

78 I cling to my conspiracy theory that VDH . . . IS Ace.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 13, 2023 06:03 PM (8AONa)

79 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper · 33m
JUST IN 🚨 Senate Minority Leader McConnell has been discharged from the hospital after being treated for a concussion and rib fracture - CNN

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 06:03 PM (Vwz3I)

80 When the truth comes out and all the lies are admitted, it is only when it is too late and the damage is done.
Posted by: washrivergal at March 13, 2023 06:00 PM (Y2W8B)

Of course. And what's absolutely mind-boggling is this population-wide subvariant of Gell-Mann amnesia there seems to be. Credulous idiotic people going "they lied their asses off on that one but they're totes reliable today!"

Posted by: People are embarrassingly stupid at March 13, 2023 06:04 PM (II3Gr)

81 "I'm old, and I see a real lack of curiosity in the media these days."

Actual antagonism toward curiosity. E.g., their reaction to TuCa covering the J6 videos.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:04 PM (MvF+J)

82 I basically get all my news from the HQ. JJ is about as thorough as it gets and then Ace often covers the as-it-happens stuff.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2023 06:04 PM (DcKNO)

83 It's just propaganda. No need to be curious. It might get you in trouble.

Posted by: fd at March 13, 2023 06:05 PM (iayUP)

84 So, from the horses own mouth, VDH lurks here.

HE IS HERE!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2023 06:01 PM (up/3i)

Does that mean I have to put on some pants?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2023 06:05 PM (BdMk6)

85 Senate Minority Leader McConnell has been discharged from the hospital after being treated for a concussion and rib fracture - CNN
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 06:03 PM (Vwz3I)
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"Ah, but that bump, that fatal bump. Twas water on the brain. Tis ninety percent fatal. Forced was I to amputate. Sad, very sad."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 13, 2023 06:05 PM (2hlEI)

86
Jonah Goldberg is a waste of flesh. Just a charmless, ugly, fat, dull-witted man-harpy.

The fact that he is paid money instead of being milled into animal-feed is a damning statement about our society.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 13, 2023 06:06 PM (oINRc)

87 79 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper · 33m
JUST IN 🚨 Senate Minority Leader McConnell has been discharged from the hospital after being treated for a concussion and rib fracture - CNN
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I)

Fecundate that guy in particular.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 13, 2023 06:06 PM (DMyTF)

88 You just gotta grab 'em by the Mishkin!

Posted by: Trump at March 13, 2023 06:07 PM (YcOm1)

89 I'll give JG props for "Liberal Fascism." Props, fatso.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:08 PM (MvF+J)

90 And no, no election-caller would call an election if they knew the difference between two candidates was less than 1%.

It worked, didn't it?

Posted by: Fox News at March 13, 2023 06:08 PM (amJF4)

91 It looks like the M338 may be replacing the 50 cal in all the military services.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgF4JaDMNDM

That is some nice lightweight firepower.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 13, 2023 06:08 PM (DMyTF)

92 From Twitchy:
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Stanford offers support to students traumatized by appearance of conservative judge
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*THIS* is a *snowflake*, ladies and gentlemen.

Not people who will opt to go elsewhere, if their news source gets too abrasive against their firmly held beliefs like Jonah belched.

Deciding who gets your business and whether you like the product are natural reactions within your sphere of influence.

Deciding you don't like somebody speaking on campus and trying to shut them down, which is neither.

Posted by: Axeman at March 13, 2023 06:09 PM (krQz2)

93 Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 1h
XFL Trainer Ben Siegfried Dies At Team Hotel At Age 22

On Thursday evening in Arlington, Texas, XFL trainer Ben Siegfried passed away at the age of 22. Siegfried died at the team’s hotel, FOX 2 reported. Siegfried worked as a trainer for the XFL’s St. Louis Battlehawks as well as the Washington Defenders. [...]

On Friday, the XFL and both teams announced his death on Twitter, however, the cause of his passing was not disclosed.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 06:09 PM (Vwz3I)

94 Fox News is just CNN with a smaller taint...

Posted by: TC in NC at March 13, 2023 06:09 PM (cHOHf)

95 "... He'd encouraged his voters to vote on election day so he could claim to be ahead that night and declare victory before mail-in votes were counted the next day."

***

In case anyone was still on the fence about whether or not Jonah Goldberg is mentally retarded.

Posted by: Azathoth at March 13, 2023 06:09 PM (wb1YC)

96 I realize I'm opening myself to observations that I'm exceeding cynical for my current years, but I'm beginning to suspect that Ace doesn't hold Jonah Goldberg or David French in the highest of regards.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 13, 2023 06:09 PM (a3Q+t)

97 JUST IN 🚨 Senate Minority Leader McConnell has been discharged from the hospital after being treated for a concussion and rib fracture - CNN

I won't believe it until I see a picture of him with a black eye.

Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2023 06:10 PM (Sv58p)

98 Media: Mr. President, what are you going to do about the banking crisis?

Honest Joe: Nothing, Jack! I wasn't there.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 13, 2023 06:10 PM (Jg7EG)

99
Jonah Goldberg has a lazy, mediocre little mind. Calling his intellect lukewarm would be generous.

I wouldn't even be slightly surprised to learn that his mother had Liberal Fascism ghostwritten for him. I simply do not believe he has the mental discipline to write a book.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 13, 2023 06:10 PM (oINRc)

100 This Ace takedownof pretentious Ozempic- needy whores like Jonah and Chris Stirewalt are classics that are to be placed on stable shelves and savored on cold, dark, vote-stealing nights in this reign of Kalorama Kommunist Kontrol.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at March 13, 2023 06:10 PM (JLoad)

101 Seems Legit @ 82-
I get my news from The Morning Report and JJ, too. I don't believe he ever sleeps.

Posted by: Eromero at March 13, 2023 06:11 PM (MF3yS)

102 Of course. And what's absolutely mind-boggling is this population-wide subvariant of Gell-Mann amnesia there seems to be. Credulous idiotic people going "they lied their asses off on that one but they're totes reliable today!"
Posted by: People are embarrassingly stupid at March 13, 2023 06:04 PM (II3Gr)

The mass ignorance is purposeful. Remember, the generations indoctrinated in our Maoist/Marxist public schools are reaching voting age. I don't have much faith in the future.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2023 06:11 PM (BdMk6)

103 Never assume happenstance when the game has been rigged

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2023 06:11 PM (xhxe8)

104 On Friday, the XFL and both teams announced his death on Twitter, however, the cause of his passing was not disclosed.

It's kind of a secret code that nobody knows about.

Posted by: Pfizer at March 13, 2023 06:11 PM (Sv58p)

105 JUST IN 🚨 Senate Minority Leader McConnell has been discharged from the hospital after being treated for a concussion and rib fracture - CNN
__________

Terrible news. Really.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2023 06:11 PM (Q4IgG)

106 Turns out -- 59%. A kiss on the wind away from 61%.

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So more like 69% (remaining late mail-in vote for Trump) when you figure in the now regular.& customary minimum margin of fraud per Maricopa and Pima Counties.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 13, 2023 06:12 PM (S3x6T)

107 Jonah Goldberg who wrote Liberal Fascism turned out to be such a CUCK.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 13, 2023 06:12 PM (dKiJG)

108 81 million votes, my ass.

Please tell me we ALL remember there was ZERO excitement and/or crowds for Biden during his whole campaign.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2023 06:00 PM (DcKNO)

+++

Yep. Even though he never drew more than a few dozen at rallies and you really never heard anyone hooting and hollering for him in any way, and I personally never saw one yard sign or bumper sticker, somehow enormous hordes of people made a bee-line for the polls on election day, or at least got their ballots in the mail in a timely fashion.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 13, 2023 06:12 PM (Y2W8B)

109 Does that mean I have to put on some pants?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2023 06:05 PM

I could lend you a dress.

Posted by: Sam Brinton at March 13, 2023 06:13 PM (a3Q+t)

110 Fox News executives, news anchors and pundits were enraged over the call,

I guess Mr. Cohn doesn't remember the Murdoch wife who texted out "WE DID IT!" after the race was called for Brandon.

Posted by: Hands at March 13, 2023 06:13 PM (786Ro)

111 This guy is so good and cheerful at what he does. Heard him curse only once out of a couple dozen videos. Sets things on fire often. Very relaxing to watch:
youtube.com/watch?v=dETAr3X4Rc0

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:13 PM (MvF+J)

112
Trump won both FL and Ohio by large margins, by that he wins the Electoral College vote except for toilets overflowing, more ballots cast then voters, cardboard over windows, ballots repeatedly voted, the 'high five' after looking under the desk, the palmed flash drive, and the untold thousands of incidents unrecorded.

'Cheaters never prosper' is why I give not one fvck if these cheating bastids are standing in bread lines next week. I know how to bake bread.

I also pulled 75% of my life savings out of a bank that got 'Trade Halted' on the Nasdaq today. Two hours before it happened. No toilets overflowing at my house.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 13, 2023 06:14 PM (enJYY)

113 I see the douchebag known as Hannity has slipped mightily from the top ratings for his timeslot. Another fucktard Fox scumbag.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 13, 2023 06:14 PM (DMyTF)

114 JUST IN 🚨 Senate Minority Leader McConnell has been discharged from the hospital after being treated for a concussion and rib fracture - CNN
__________

Terrible news. Really.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2023 06:11 PM (Q4IgG)

---------

He'll be just a shell of his former self.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 13, 2023 06:15 PM (S3x6T)

115 107 Jonah Goldberg who wrote Liberal Fascism turned out to be such a CUCK.

***

The strongest argument for him not having actually written the book himself is practically every column he's written.

The strongest argument that he did write it is the fact the book is mostly a lot of basic bitch stuff that any well-read person already knew about history and the Left.

Posted by: Azathoth at March 13, 2023 06:15 PM (wb1YC)

116 instead of being milled into animal-feed is a damning statement about our society.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 13, 2023 06:06 PM (oINRc)

Hey we have standards!!!

Posted by: Pigs at March 13, 2023 06:15 PM (foa6+)

117 What will those lawyers do if they have to deal with a conservative judge in the courtroom?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 13, 2023 06:15 PM (6lj/r)

118 Please tell me we ALL remember there was ZERO excitement and/or crowds for Biden during his whole campaign.

I don't know, the Trump supporters who always welcomed his motorcades to town were pretty big and boisterous. I think they were having a lot of fun.

Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2023 06:15 PM (CaJIi)

119 I saw Fellow Fatty open for Skinny Puppy at the Jenny Craig Pavilion at SDSU in '03.

Posted by: Hands at March 13, 2023 06:15 PM (786Ro)

120 Sean Claude van Damme served his purpose as an IC bitch boy.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 13, 2023 06:17 PM (iOSQw)

121 You know what the one thing every TV and radio talking head fears the most? The 'off' switch.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at March 13, 2023 06:17 PM (nRMeC)

122 Fortify me harder Daddy!!!
-- Mishkin

Posted by: Hands at March 13, 2023 06:19 PM (786Ro)

123 LOL Mick I took too many chairs to Head Foley, claimed that he would be headed to Mastodon and never coming back to Twitter, came crawling back.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 13, 2023 06:19 PM (dKiJG)

124 the Arizona call stunk to high heaven and was something more than a "bad modeling error." it was, as the bra above posits, a signal.

I saw it live - was on the elliptical. was so pissed I jumped off and screamed at the tv for a while then turned off Fox News and haven't watched it a single minute since.

they are traitors.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 13, 2023 05:41 PM (w0NJk

Ditto. The five alarm sensor was tripped when that fat fcuk face Stirewalt' called' ARIZONA on FNC.
The only thing Stirewalt May be competent to call is if his hired boy for the night has docked with his fudge factory.
Fox Finis.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at March 13, 2023 06:19 PM (JLoad)

125 Can we place Cocaine Mitch on a fence post? He needs to toughen up.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 13, 2023 06:19 PM (Jg7EG)

126 125 Can we place Cocaine Mitch on a fence post? He needs to toughen up.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 13, 2023 06:19 PM (Jg7EG)

I'm just pissed someone turned him over

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2023 06:20 PM (bs+z0)

127 So, from the horses own mouth, VDH lurks here.

HE IS HERE!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2023 06:01 PM (up/3i)

Does that mean I have to put on some pants?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons


Nope. Ancient Greeks and Romans didn't put 'em on. So we should be in good with VDH.

Posted by: Hands at March 13, 2023 06:21 PM (786Ro)

128 One thing about NC, they kept counting for a week after the election with Biden getting closer.

They called off the dogs in NC when it was clear the Steal was secure in PA, AZ and GA.

It was literally like someone just told them “stop counting we got it wrapped up elsewhere.”

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 13, 2023 06:22 PM (cMXNt)

129 Fox "deep state" News knew that Biden was going to win because Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania were going to do whatever necessary to create the votes that were needed.

They were just doing their part to get rid of Trump by helping set the narrative that the election was over and "go away now, nothing to see here folks."

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 13, 2023 06:22 PM (MFZ8i)

130 It's really disingenuous--if not stupid--of Tu-quoquers trying to use the word "snowflake" about somebody who simply has a negative reaction.

Snowflakes are particularly, people who are shattered by decisions made outside of their control. They DO need the "cry rooms" and "safe spaces" to deal with it.

If you don't need "trigger warnings", "safe spaces", coloring books, and "cry rooms", you are NOT a "snowflake".

Whatever January 6th was, it wasn't "melting".

Posted by: Axeman at March 13, 2023 06:22 PM (krQz2)

131 Many in Japan Hesitant to Unmask Despite Policy ChangeーNHK WORLD-JAPAN NEWS
youtube.com/watch?v=3kwZPMJwB8g

Starting March 13, Japan's government is asking people to make their own decision about whether or not they should wear a mask. But despite the pandemic policy change, many plan to keep them on. As NHK World's Shirakawa Marina reports, experts say part of the hesitance is related to culture. #covid19 #japan #pandemic #mask

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 13, 2023 06:23 PM (MFZ8i)

132 Oh how they love the Dominion lawsuit! Witch, Witch!! Get 'em!

I'm in PA. F them all with OPs parts.

Posted by: Lola at March 13, 2023 06:23 PM (GshMh)

133
I coulda repeatedly pulled $9,999.99 cash out of my Nasdaq 'Trade Halted' bank this morning and deposited the cash into my credit union across the street, but the thought of 79,000 new ISR agents halted that thought.

But it woulda been fun. I like fun.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 13, 2023 06:23 PM (enJYY)

134 I remember watching that night. I was pissed. It was so obvious.

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2023 06:24 PM (tITEI)

135 What will those lawyers do if they have to deal with a conservative judge in the courtroom?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 13, 2023 06:15 PM (6lj/r)
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Hopefully, Joe Biden will outlaw all that before they have to deal with it.

Posted by: Axeman at March 13, 2023 06:24 PM (krQz2)

136 Read with Die-ann Feinstein and Lumpy out its a 49-49 Senate

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2023 06:25 PM (xhxe8)

137 JG toured the USA by car once with his dog. They stopped at Culver's and pronounced it "Good." As they passed thru each little burg, JG blasted "Appalachian Spring" on the stereo, to show his solidarity with the Heartland.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:26 PM (MvF+J)

138 If you don't need "trigger warnings", "safe spaces", coloring books, and "cry rooms", you are NOT a "snowflake".

you don't need books of color? Racist!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko solutions at March 13, 2023 06:26 PM (qgirO)

139 Read with Die-ann Feinstein and Lumpy out its a 49-49 Senate
Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2023 06:25 PM (xhxe
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That's why I donned the tinfoil hat and asked if McConnell might have taken the dive to make it a comfortable 49-48.

Posted by: Axeman at March 13, 2023 06:26 PM (krQz2)

140 Poor Fox trying to be one of the "cool" networks and still always called irrelevant by the MSM.

Posted by: Iris at March 13, 2023 06:27 PM (foa6+)

141 81 million votes, my ass.

Please tell me we ALL remember there was ZERO excitement and/or crowds for Biden during his whole campaign.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2023 06:00 PM (DcKNO)

+++

Yep. Even though he never drew more than a few dozen at rallies and you really never heard anyone hooting and hollering for him in any way, and I personally never saw one yard sign or bumper sticker, somehow enormous hordes of people made a bee-line for the polls on election day, or at least got their ballots in the mail in a timely fashion.
Posted by: washrivergal

I hear tell that they were not so much "For Biden" as they were "Against Trump".
And one thing we all know about people "Against Trump" - They are all too classy to be caught uttering or having a "Fvck DJT" sign in their yard.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2023 06:27 PM (spiu+)

142 *Sigh

Posted by: runner at March 13, 2023 06:27 PM (V13WU)

143 Read with Die-ann Feinstein and Lumpy out its a 49-49 Senate
Posted by: Skip


Positioning Kamala for more success!

Posted by: Hands at March 13, 2023 06:27 PM (786Ro)

144 I guess Mr. Cohn doesn't remember the Murdoch wife who texted out "WE DID IT!" after the race was called for Brandon.
___

My question that will remain unanswered is "why"? Why did all these people want Trump out so frikkin badly? I understand the D party and the America haters (large intersection on the venn diagram). Some grifters were maybe inconvenienced a little by Trump. But people on the periphery with nothing obvious to gain like Murdoch's wife?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 13, 2023 06:28 PM (fs1hN)

145 "81 million votes, my ass. -- Please tell me we ALL remember there was ZERO excitement and/or crowds for Biden during his whole campaign."

In the battleground states they eventually had to come up with (fake) ballots, not to mention the other irregularities and outright illegal actions. But in states Like CA they could cheat a couple million, who would notice or care?

The cartels really like their control, and will steal, kill, destroy to keep it.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2023 06:29 PM (Cus5s)

146
"Fresh Corn" signs were 10X more likely to be seen in Pennsylvania then Biden signs.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 13, 2023 06:29 PM (enJYY)

147 Since Biden was so successful in winning in 2020 why doesn't anyone ask Pence or others running if they plan to replicate Biden's winning strategy?

I mean hiding out in a basement, putting a lid on it by 2pm everyday, canceling GOTV efforts and holding 'rallies" that consist of 10 supporters garnered 81 million votes. Certainly it is a strategy that has rewritten the playbook and will have to be replicated.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 13, 2023 06:30 PM (cMXNt)

148
I hear tell that they were not so much "For Biden" as they were "Against Trump".
And one thing we all know about people "Against Trump" - They are all too classy to be caught uttering or having a "Fvck DJT" sign in their yard.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2023 06:27 PM (spiu+)

++++
I know there were and are a lot of Trump haters. That's why I concede to 30 mil. legitimate votes for Biden.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 13, 2023 06:30 PM (Y2W8B)

149 Starting March 13, Japan's government is asking people to make their own decision about whether or not they should wear a mask. But despite the pandemic policy change, many plan to keep them on. As NHK World's Shirakawa Marina reports, experts say part of the hesitance is related to culture. #covid19 #japan #pandemic #mask
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe

WTF? Masking still 'policy' Anywhere?
I thought only the insane and/or stupid still did shiite.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2023 06:31 PM (spiu+)

150 144 I guess Mr. Cohn doesn't remember the Murdoch wife who texted out "WE DID IT!" after the race was called for Brandon.
___

My question that will remain unanswered is "why"? Why did all these people want Trump out so frikkin badly? I understand the D party and the America haters (large intersection on the venn diagram). Some grifters were maybe inconvenienced a little by Trump. But people on the periphery with nothing obvious to gain like Murdoch's wife?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 13, 2023 06:28 PM (fs1hN)

Trump blocking the return of earmarks and limiting lobbying was more than a minor inconvenience for grift. That's a lot of money, not just for the grifters but also the major businesses that couldn't get their laws through.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 13, 2023 06:31 PM (eYoxG)

151 My question that will remain unanswered is "why"? Why did all these people want Trump out so frikkin badly? I understand the D party and the America haters (large intersection on the venn diagram). Some grifters were maybe inconvenienced a little by Trump. But people on the periphery with nothing obvious to gain like Murdoch's wife?
Posted by: Chuck Martel

They can be with the "In Crowd". Adults who behave and have a mindset of a fucking 7th grader.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 13, 2023 06:31 PM (CZBWZ)

152 We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.

Posted by: Joe Basement Biden at March 13, 2023 06:31 PM (fs1hN)

153 "based on the data available at 11:20 p.m. Eastern on election night, when Fox called the state for Mr. Biden."

Lets see... if Arizona's polls closed at 8 pm, like they do in my state, it would have been an hour and 20 minutes post-close that they called the state.

States in the Pacific time zone had only closed their polls for 20 minutes.

Which means that the only remaining voters they could have discouraged were in Alaska and Hawaii.

Still a dick move.

And I could have sworn they called it much earlier than that.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 13, 2023 06:31 PM (J6gvm)

154 Starting March 13, Japan's government is asking people to make their own decision about whether or not they should wear a mask. But despite the pandemic policy change, many plan to keep them on. As NHK World's Shirakawa Marina reports, experts say part of the hesitance is related to culture. #covid19 #japan #pandemic #mask

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 13, 2023 06:23 PM


I was stationed in Japan in the 80s for three years and at least 15-20% of the population back then wore masks in public. I can imagine it is north of 75% now especially with the fact that Japan is a country with an older population.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 13, 2023 06:31 PM (uNylN)

155 Yes; we're complaining about a stolen election; they're turned into crying pussies by "TRUMP WON" written in chalk on a university sidewalk.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 13, 2023 06:31 PM (Vwz3I)

156 OT but in JJs thread I said I had scheduled the last appointment at the vet today for our primary dog.

I brought him home and buried him by the woods

Such a good boy. Such a good, good boy.

Posted by: blaster at March 13, 2023 06:32 PM (pwExq)

157 What's really ridiculous was that in 2020 I ran a rather highly-circulated book about the anti-Trump plan for the election.

It said "Don't worry", Biden is going to win the swing states. And Trump is probably going to contest the election results.

But IF Trump cheats and is pronounced the winner in the states they are assuring you he lost, then Joe Biden SHOULD NEVER concede, and should ask for recounts in as many states as needed.

The book's plan was the WHOLE NINE YARDS. From the Alternate slate of electors to the HOUSE FLOOR VOTE. With all the while Biden not conceding.

Heck I bet you the Handmaidens could have beaten down the doors of Congress at that point and the Dems would say "It's just democracy".

Posted by: Axeman at March 13, 2023 06:32 PM (krQz2)

158 "My question that will remain unanswered is "why"?"

The whole country went insane in 2020. I don't know why. Maybe we passed thru the tail of a dark matter comet or something.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:33 PM (MvF+J)

159 blaster, I am so very sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:34 PM (MvF+J)

160 Since Biden was so successful in winning in 2020 why doesn't anyone ask Pence or others running if they plan to replicate Biden's winning strategy?

I mean hiding out in a basement, putting a lid on it by 2pm everyday, canceling GOTV efforts and holding 'rallies" that consist of 10 supporters garnered 81 million votes. Certainly it is a strategy that has rewritten the playbook and will have to be replicated.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 13, 2023 06:30 PM (cMXNt)

What makes you think they aren't?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2023 06:34 PM (BdMk6)

161 Blaster - my heart goes out to you. I am so sorry.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 13, 2023 06:34 PM (Y2W8B)

162 Such a good boy. Such a good, good boy.
Posted by: blaster at March 13, 2023 06:32 PM

Sorry to hear that, been there and wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at March 13, 2023 06:35 PM (+M04z)

163 "My question that will remain unanswered is "why"?"

The whole country went insane in 2020. I don't know why. Maybe we passed thru the tail of a dark matter comet or something.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:33 PM


covid is the *why*. Remember never let a crisis go to waste. At least three States broke their own elections laws during the plandemic and got called out for it by their own Supreme Courts after the fact. but nothing happened.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 13, 2023 06:35 PM (uNylN)

164 If you don't need "trigger warnings", "safe spaces", coloring books, and "cry rooms", you are NOT a "snowflake".

Yeah, as usual, leftists try to use the term snowflake and completely abuse or misuse it because they don't understand it. "What's that, you don't like a guy raping your daughter? WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!"

Its like watching a 5 year old explain particle physics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2023 06:36 PM (0hOvj)

165 The problem for FauxNooz was not that they called AZ early, it was that, by calling AZ early they revealed that they were a part of the "reinforce the vote" crowd. Haven't watched Brett Baer since, fuck him. He is with the enemies of the People.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 13, 2023 06:37 PM (7JhjE)

166 152 We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.

Posted by: Joe Basement Biden at March 13, 2023 06:31 PM (fs1hN)

++++

One of two truths I think he's ever told. The other one was said the other day - he said since he's been in office 12,000 jobs have been created. That sounds about right.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 13, 2023 06:37 PM (Y2W8B)

167 {{blaster}} so sorry for the loss of your pup.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at March 13, 2023 06:37 PM (wagHN)

168 Nood quick hits

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 13, 2023 06:38 PM (J6gvm)

169 My question that will remain unanswered is "why"?"

The whole country went insane in 2020. I don't know why. Maybe we passed thru the tail of a dark matter comet or something.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:33 PM (MvF+J)

No we didn't. Trump won the 2020 election. It was stolen.

The insanity came afterwards when 99.99% of the Trump voters did nothing about it.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2023 06:38 PM (BdMk6)

170 163 COVID was part of it. TDS was part of it. The peak of the routine ten-year black-rage cycle was part of it. The lying press and pols were part of it. Stupidity was a major player.

I think if I had to pick one "why" overarching it all, I'd pick the "triumph of evil."

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 13, 2023 06:40 PM (MvF+J)

171 Such a good boy. Such a good, good boy.
Posted by: blaster at March 13, 2023 06:32 PM
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I'm sure he was the best little dog in the whole wide world. Many condolences.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 13, 2023 06:41 PM (2hlEI)

172 The Dems, facing a wipeout in FL, OH, TX, and with PA, WI, etc., soon to follow, needed the early call in AZ to freeze the voting and buy time. That, and the made up story about waterfalls in GA voting centers. This enabled them to "discover" votes.

Haven't watched FoxNews since.

Posted by: LurkerInChief at March 13, 2023 06:43 PM (rlsWv)

173 They act like they stole it. They lie that way. They act like voting has no consequences any longer.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 13, 2023 06:50 PM (uIXO9)

174 I find this a sign of the times and of the participants' character. Jonah Goldberg is perfectly fine at LA Times but Glenn Reynolds is unacceptable at USA Today.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 13, 2023 06:58 PM (3JfbU)

175 But Fox News' decision desk was not competent.

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On the contrary, they were very competent in giving cover and possibly even precipitated the coming fraud.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 13, 2023 07:04 PM (3JfbU)

176 Biden's the only president since WWIi to win election without FL, OH or both. OpenAI chat will lie to you about that and tell you Clinto did it too.

Posted by: The Judge at March 13, 2023 07:20 PM (4fYsM)

177 The Reichstag Riot Show at Pelosi’s House was all about preventing Honest Elections. They constructed and concocted this Trump Trap to say:

"If you ever demand Honest Elections again, we will frame you, ruin you and try you in a Kangaroo Court and then put you in our Extraordinary Rendition Black Sites, this time for American citizens. If you challenge our Right to Steal Elections Forever, we will throw you in our dungeons for years on end and we will torture you. Justice Taney said "The Black Man has no Rights we are bound to respect." And we say "Trump voters have no Rights WE are bound to respect." Know your place, serfs. OBEY."

RIGGED ELECTIONS ARE THEIR MOST CHERISHED PRIORTY.

THAT'S BECAUSE THEY MAKE ALL THE OTHER CRIMES POSSIBLE.

This cannot be overstated.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 13, 2023 07:35 PM (Ndje9)

178 Fox's job was Agit-Prop.

Call every Biden state with 1% reporting, delay every Trump state even with 99% reporting. Then pretend it was perfectly normal to count Biden ballots for a week in Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, etc until Biden was installed. Then normalize all the fucking tyranny of it.

Fuck them.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 13, 2023 07:41 PM (Ndje9)

179 Mishkin didn't make the call. You'd have to check his cell to find out who did.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 13, 2023 07:42 PM (DePyg)

180 Also worth noting that this was at the same time that vote counting 'closed' in Atlanta and Philly. It was all part of the same Plan B that had to be executed at 820 because the other networks were looking at the numbers and concluding that Biden was in trouble. If they waited 10 minutes it would have been too late......all the east coasters would have gone to bed thinking Trump had won.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 13, 2023 07:51 PM (DePyg)

181 Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of numbers gets it. For many, that understanding is deep down, never to be spoken, because it doesn't suit them to accept it, or because admitting they accept it would be stigmatizing. But it was what it was.

Posted by: turnout man at March 13, 2023 08:57 PM (CIcwn)

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