Kim Gardner Faces Public Demands to Resign As Well As Attorney General Court Action to Remove Her From Office In Aftermath of a Visitor to St. Louis Losing Her Legs to a Habitual Criminal She Let Roam the Streets to Menace Citizens

I don't read the local St. Louis papers so I didn't know what spurred Missouri's AG to demand Gardner resign or be removed from office. She's always been awful and she's always been determined to help bitter criminals murder citizens -- what's new?

Then I read the Attorney General's statement. Kim Gardner ripped the legs off a young woman with her Joker-like insistence that criminals shall rule the city.

"As Attorney General, I want to protect the people of St. Louis, and that includes protecting victims of crime and finding justice for them," said Attorney General Andrew Bailey. "Instead of protecting victims, Circuit Attorney Gardner is creating them. My office will do everything in its power to restore order, and eliminate the chaos in St. Louis caused by Kim Gardner's neglect of her office."
On February 18, 2023, Janae Edmonson, a teenage athlete, was walking back to her hotel in downtown St. Louis after a volleyball tournament when she was run down by a speeding vehicle and lost both of her legs. One was severed, and the other maimed. Ms. Edmonson survived the crash due to her father's quick action and emergency medical training, but both of her legs were amputated.
The driver of the speeding vehicle, Daniel Riley, should never have been in that car. He is a dangerous gunman who should have been in jail. In 2020, the St. Louis Circuit Attorney's Office charged Riley with First Degree Robbery and Armed Criminal Action for stealing a firearm from a victim at gunpoint. The Circuit Attorney dismissed and refiled that case on July 18, 2022, but not before Riley- who was out on bond- earned 54 separate violations for failing to comply with the pre-trial bond conditions. After the Circuit Attorney refiled the case, Riley earned 50 more violations. The Circuit Attorney never filed a motion to revoke Riley's bond.
This is the latest in a long pattern of brazen neglect. The St. Louis Circuit Attorney has a long history of failure to prosecute violent crime, with a backlog of at least 3,000 cases.
"It is time for the Circuit Attorney to go and for the rule of law and justice to prevail," said Attorney General Bailey.

It's actually a little worse than he reports, if you can believe that. This dirty scumbag was allowed to remain "at home" under supposed house arrest, with a tracker on his ankle -- despite the fact that he violated the terms of his house arrest order FIFTY TIMES.

This is what the AG means when >he insists that this very hangable scumbag should never have been on the streets to maim this poor girl.

The outrage against Gardner stems from an incident over the weekend, in which an out-of-town teenager suffered a life-changing injury due to a driver who was out on bond awaiting trial for armed robbery.
Janae Edmondson, 17, was visiting St. Louis with her family in order to participate in a volleyball tournament. The family was walking in downtown St. Louis around 8:40 p.m. last Saturday when a speeding driver failed to yield and collided with another vehicle. That second vehicle struck Edmondson.
One of Edmondson's legs was severed in the crash and the other severely maimed. Her father's quick thinking and military training allowed him to save her life, but both of her legs had to be amputated as a result. She remains hospitalized in critical condition.
Two people in the vehicle that was struck were also injured.
The driver who caused the crash, Daniel Riley, 21, was out on bond and under house arrest for an August 2020 robbery case, but had been ordered to wear a GPS monitoring device.
Riley's case was supposed to go to trial last July, but was delayed. Court records show Riley violated his GPS monitoring device more than 50 times, including 10 times in the last month.

Only now does a judge deny him bail and keep in court, now that the public i in absolute fury.

Everyone says it was everyone else's fault that this guy tore the legs off a girl. The communist judge blames the communist Soros DA, and the communist Soros DA blames the communist judge.

Here's an idea: Drive them all out of the city.

Earlier this week, the Circuit Attorney's Office said it was well aware of Riley's criminal history, but said the decision to allow him out on bond was the call of the judge on that particular case.
A spokesperson for the CAO added that the victim in Riley's armed robbery case died, but the judge planned to move ahead with the trial in July 2022, and that's why prosecutors said they weren't ready. The spokesperson explained that the CAO then refiled the robbery charges to pursue the case without the victim.
In response to the Circuit Attorney's Office accusation that it was the judge's decision to keep Riley out on bond, a statement from the 22nd Circuit Court said judges are not notified of GPS violations, that only the attorneys of record are notified.
The crash adds to many waves of criticism and challenges facing Gardner's office. She was previously disciplined last year amid allegations of concealing evidence in a high-profile case. Former Attorney General Eric Schmitt also accused her of concealing evidence in efforts to vacate the conviction of Lamar Johnson.

I've mentioned that case before -- Kim Gardner is literally hiding evidence about career criminals to spring them out of jail.

Can an elected communist, destroy-civilization Soros DA be removed by a quo warranto action?

Well, an action was successfully brought against a DA in 2009.

Former Attorney General Chris Koster, a Democrat, used the manuever to seek the removal of the Dent County prosecutor in 2009. The action centers around whether a person has forfeited the legal right to hold public office.

"She's lost the trust of the people," even a key ally admits.

Circuit Attorney Kimberly M. Gardner faced an unprecedented barrage of criticism -- and a threat of removal -- from state and local leaders on Wednesday over a car crash last weekend that left a teen in critical condition.
One of the region's top business advocates called Gardner's lack of action "unforgiveable." An area county executive called for state intervention. Even Mayor Tishaura O. Jones, once one of Gardner's most prominent allies, said the prosecutor's office must do better.
"She really needs to do some soul-searching of whether or not she wants to continue as circuit attorney, because she's lost the trust of the people," Jones said.

Update: Andrew Bailey files to remove her from office.

Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey's press conference on St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner
https://t.co/P6CfpQMVvN
— FOX2now (@FOX2now) February 23, 2023

Posted by: Ace at 12:12 PM

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1 Hi Ace

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2023 12:13 PM (Y+l9t)

2 She won by 50 points in 2020 after she let the mob go and persecuted the people trying to defend their own homes with inactive firearms.

If Gardner goes, someone just like her takes her place.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:13 PM (LvTSG)

3 "She's lost the trust of the people," even a key ally admits.

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This ally will succeed Gardner and do everything the same way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:14 PM (LvTSG)

4 They will have to drag her out of there.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 23, 2023 12:14 PM (uNylN)

5 Reading the list of cases she failed to prosecute before this plus her crusade against Eric Greitans,the only wonder is how she has managed to stay in office this long.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2023 12:15 PM (Y+l9t)

6 To paraphrase something Jesse Kelly has said over and over about Soros, a sane country would have revoked his breathing privileges a long time ago.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 12:15 PM (wb1YC)

7 Marxists are the enemy

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2023 12:15 PM (WRsWA)

8 She will survive this. The left will rally around to protect her, and the people of St. Louis will reelect her.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 23, 2023 12:16 PM (wmDcS)

9 6 Reading the list of cases she failed to prosecute before this plus her crusade against Eric Greitans,the only wonder is how she has managed to stay in office this long.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2023 12:15 PM (Y+l9t)

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This is her second term.

Her first was probably worse than what she's doing now since it involved letting riots go unpunished.

And she won by 50 points.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

10 "She really needs to do some soul-searching of whether or not she wants to continue as circuit attorney, because she's lost the trust of the people," Jones said.

Objection: assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 23, 2023 12:16 PM (eOEVl)

11 She's an evil bitch. Then again so is most of the Dem party.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 23, 2023 12:16 PM (ynpvh)

12 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Greg Abbott at February 23, 2023 12:16 PM (IXZGh)

13 Forget it, Jake. It's St. Louis town.

Posted by: Wally at February 23, 2023 12:16 PM (FJYfm)

14 Bootygig starter kit.

https://tinyurl.com/2p8tafwz

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 23, 2023 12:17 PM (PyOKD)

15 And she won by 50 points.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:16 PM (LvTSG)
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No. Enough ballots were harvested to make it look like she won by 50 points.

An HONEST election might show very different results.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 23, 2023 12:17 PM (YIVH2)

16 Riots in 3...2...1

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 12:17 PM (D25PY)

17 Gooder and Harderer!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 23, 2023 12:17 PM (BRHaw)

18 Horrible

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 23, 2023 12:18 PM (EGSGm)

19 She got an overwhelming number of ballots last election.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2023 12:18 PM (yQpMk)

20 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Greg Abbott at February 23, 2023 12:16 PM (IXZGh)

LOL. Never change, Sponge.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 23, 2023 12:18 PM (DRSnL)

21 St. Louis also has issues with their family courts tearing kids away from one parent and giving to another who is a known sexual abuser. It was so bad that when a judge was indicted, non of the other judges would take the case. Sounds like the entire judicial system needs a septic cleansing.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 23, 2023 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

22 17 No. Enough ballots were harvested to make it look like she won by 50 points.

An HONEST election might show very different results.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 23, 2023 12:17 PM (YIVH2)

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Will there be an honest election to replace her? Will the people of St. Louis storm the battlements to ensure that their votes are tallied correctly?

No?

They want this, then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:18 PM (LvTSG)

23 21 She got an overwhelming number of ballots last election.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2023 12:18 PM (yQpMk)

I see what you did there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 23, 2023 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

24 8 Marxists are the enemy
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2023 12:15 PM (WRsWA)

Was hearing about this book on the radio yesterday, "The Devil and Karl Marx" and Marx's apparent interest in the devil as someone who destroys.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:18 PM (eYoxG)

25 She also looks like Shrek.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2023 12:19 PM (Y5qcH)

26 Can an elected communist, destroy-civilization Soros DA be removed by a quo warranto action?

Don't know about quo warranto, but let's ask zombie Marie Antoinette.

People can be removed. IYKWIMAIKTYD.

And St.Louis is known for removing people.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 12:19 PM (Ktdcc)

27 Quo warranto is a legitimate proceeding against a prosecuting attorney under the Missouri Constitution, so far as I can tell. There are no fewer than four state Supreme Court decisions establishing it, and at least one specifically says that a sheriff who doesn't enforce the law and otherwise abuses his office is considered to have forfeited his post and can be removed on those grounds. It stands to reason that if a sheriff can be removed, so can a lawless DA.

I would hope that Bailey is reasonably sure of success, though, and has sounded out the state Supreme Court in some way (since I'm sure that's where it will ultimately go).

Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:19 PM (bhRsz)

28 Has Joey the Stumbler called this racism yet? What's he waiting for?

Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (AMIL/)

29 Whether it's a volleyball camp or tournament, a major league baseball game, a convention, whatever, it's time for Red State Americans to just start saying no to even going to these Soros experiments in New Society Hell. If the locals want this -and given her re-election it appears that they do- let them have it. But we just have to stop going to these places.

Posted by: Wally at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (FJYfm)

30 Hi Sharon!

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (C1Zwz)

31 I am on board with an eye for an eye. But I think these so-called prosecutors should also be on the hook for the same, if not personally and financially liable for all crimes caused by their pets.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (PyOKD)

32 AtC seems to think that there is a way out of this other than national divorce. I agree that divorce isn't the answer, because the left would still be the bitter ex who constantly seeks to destroy us. But we also can't vote our way out.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (JglZ8)

33 So who gets St Louis in the national divorce?

Posted by: Mark1971 at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (xPl2J)

34 Jesus wept.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (w0NJk)

35 Yeah, this woman is a ghoul. Dark, evil people. Matching straight up to what Kamala the scum said in so many words, criminals and non-whites will never be punished.

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (9qHsE)

36 The other rats gotta protect their phony jobs, so over the side goes Kim.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (4WrxM)

37 >>>4 She'll be a federal judge soon. And will get GOP votes.

A president has a right to his nominees! (As long as he's a Democrat president!!!)

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (C1Zwz)

38 She got away with forcing a GoP Governor out of office on bogus charges.

Red states putting up with shit filled red diaper commies running amok is unacceptable.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (AyznQ)

39 Willowed:

Garner won her last election by 50 points.

St. Louis has lost two-thirds of its population over the last seventy years.

There's a reason for that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

40 So who gets St Louis in the national divorce?
Posted by: Mark1971 at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (xPl2J)

We do. But we expel the inhabitants to Illinois.

Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (bhRsz)

41 I bet the McCloskey's have a voodoo doll that looks like her and it's full of pins. It sits right next to the one that looks likes Gov Parsons.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (D25PY)

42 35 So who gets St Louis in the national divorce?

Posted by: Mark1971 at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (xPl2J)

Illinois

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (ynpvh)

43 RDS removed a DA.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 23, 2023 12:21 PM (JglZ8)

44 You don't get the government you deserve. You get the government you voted for.

Remember that.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:22 PM (OjHyA)

45 If Gardner steps down, she probably has a good chance to unseat Jones as mayor of St. Louis in the next mayoral election.

That's how Soros-style electoral magic works.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at February 23, 2023 12:22 PM (TNyrE)

46 If the locals want this -and given her re-election it appears that they do- let them have it. But we just have to stop going to these places.

The problem with that thinking is that you're denying the minority their civil rights. If we can use that approach to protect blacks in the south, we can use it to protect whites and others in the north.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 23, 2023 12:22 PM (eOEVl)

47 I remember the discussion in Moby Dick of the sailors skinning out a whale cock and making a leather jacket out of it.
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Except they shrink in cold weather unless you rub them very hard.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 23, 2023 12:22 PM (Vwz3I)

48 Was hearing about this book on the radio yesterday, "The Devil and Karl Marx" and Marx's apparent interest in the devil as someone who destroys.

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I'm fairly certain that when Marx finally met the devil he tried to bum money off of him.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 12:22 PM (wb1YC)

49 Marxist,,,soul searching?

Ace, thought they had to outsource soul searching.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 23, 2023 12:22 PM (xcF3y)

50 >>>29 Quo warranto is a legitimate proceeding against a prosecuting attorney under the Missouri Constitution, so far as I can tell. There are no fewer than four state Supreme Court decisions establishing it, and at least one specifically says that a sheriff who doesn't enforce the law and otherwise abuses his office is considered to have forfeited his post and can be removed on those grounds. It stands to reason that if a sheriff can be removed, so can a lawless DA.

oh it's totally legal and real. I was wondering whether or not you can get a judge (or whoever the trier of facts is here) to go along with it, as a practical matter.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:22 PM (C1Zwz)

51 31 Whether it's a volleyball camp or tournament, a major league baseball game, a convention, whatever, it's time for Red State Americans to just start saying no to even going to these Soros experiments in New Society Hell. If the locals want this -and given her re-election it appears that they do- let them have it. But we just have to stop going to these places.

yes. DEFINITELY. Richmond is starting to make me think even there isn't worth it for a sports ball tournament, so its not just blue states - you have to look specifically at the municipality

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (w0NJk)

52 Give her a microphone and send her to Orlando.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (anj39)

53 She should run for a house seat. She'd win.

My understanding is that she doesn't really work. She sort of shows up every so often.

Abortion Mouse was the same way...Brad Raffensberger, etc.

Posted by: MJ at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (zwDuR)

54 34 AtC seems to think that there is a way out of this other than national divorce. I agree that divorce isn't the answer, because the left would still be the bitter ex who constantly seeks to destroy us. But we also can't vote our way out.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (JglZ

The divorce makes the ensuing war cleaner.

I don't see how we'd be able to make the left not crazy on a large scale, and absent that everything is being run into the ground. Extinguishing of civilization and all. This very much ranks up there was one of the least avoidable conflicts in history since the alternative appears to be widespread death and destruction.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (eYoxG)

55 stay out of the cities. they are not civilized places.

Posted by: x at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (ZBPE2)

56 Dad probably made it through Iraq and Afghanistan only to come home and have his daughter lose her legs to a war she didn't want to fight.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (JglZ8)

57 Blue cities within red states are a point of friction.

Posted by: mr tmz at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (rJ48h)

58 "It is time for the Circuit Attorney to go and for the rule of law and justice to prevail," said Attorney General Bailey.

I think it is a little late for that. The DOJ will be suing to prevent it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (lTGtQ)

59 I mean, you know, Mayorkas is definitely worthy of impeachment -- so is Mayor Butt, so is Biden -- but there is the practical impediment that Democrats won't permit it.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (C1Zwz)

60 I'm all for this, but serious question: Why the uproar over this case and threats to oust Gardner when there have been so many other cases involving career criminals set free that almost immediately rape and murder? What's so special about this case? Or is it just a case of the straw that broke the camel's back?

The victim is a pretty young girl who, judging by the pictures, is very light-skinned black (possibly mixed race). The skel is a creepy-looking young light-skinned black thug with a face you wanna smash with a tire iron. It's basically black-on-black crime. I can't perceive any social justice points here that would explain the sudden outrage. Am I missing something?

Is it the nature of the crime? I think that actually cuts against this case being so special. It was basically a horrific accident. It wasn't a premeditated violent crime like so many other let-loose criminals have committed.

So what gives? Why this case? Why now?

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (iFTx/)

61 48 The problem with that thinking is that you're denying the minority their civil rights. If we can use that approach to protect blacks in the south, we can use it to protect whites and others in the north.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 23, 2023 12:22 PM (eOEVl)

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If there are still good people in St. Louis, they need to flee, like, 5 years ago. Failing that, they need to flee today.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

62 In 2020, the St. Louis Circuit Attorney's Office charged Riley with First Degree Robbery and Armed Criminal Action for stealing a firearm from a victim at gunpoint. The Circuit Attorney dismissed and refiled that case on July 18, 2022, but not before Riley- who was out on bond- earned 54 separate violations for failing to comply with the pre-trial bond conditions.
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54 bond violations? There was either one hell of a time gap between bond and trial, or he was a *very* busy criminal, or both.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:24 PM (t0OGg)

63 This is the thing I do not understand. Why do these inner cities keep voting for Democrats against their own interest? No matter how badly the elected democrat performs, they continue to get reelected. Looked at some polls yesterday o RCP and Biden is actually in positive territory in two different polls. Who the hell thinks Biden is doing a good job? 27% think hte country is going in the right direction but Biden is doing a good job? This makes no sense.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2023 12:24 PM (Y+l9t)

64 declassifying cities like this, and Philly, into protectorates without any representation in state/federal matters is the key

they become "protectorates" or something. the rest of the state goes on as normal.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 23, 2023 12:24 PM (w0NJk)

65 If there are still good people in St. Louis, they need to flee, like, 5 years ago. Failing that, they need to flee today.

My daughter got her PhD at Wash U. in St. Louis. I prayed every day. She's now in DC.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 23, 2023 12:25 PM (eOEVl)

66 Prediction: NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. Sadly. I really hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:25 PM (iFTx/)

67 Only now does a judge deny him bail and keep in court, now that the public i in absolute fury.
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The only thing that gets them to do *anything* is public rage. They play the odds. Most things they do or don't do won't cause public rage. It is unpredictable what will.

The judge and the DA rolled snake eyes this time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:25 PM (t0OGg)

68 >>>Is it the nature of the crime? I think that actually cuts against this case being so special. It was basically a horrific accident. It wasn't a premeditated violent crime like so many other let-loose criminals have committed.

I think the fact that it wasn't a death but a maiming makes it worse. With a dead person, well, they're gone. Forgotten. But a live maimed person hangs around.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:25 PM (C1Zwz)

69 59 Blue cities within red states are a point of friction.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (rJ48h)

They aren't really fortified and don't maintain large stockpiles of supplies. Shouldn't be a problem.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:25 PM (eYoxG)

70 54 bond violations? There was either one hell of a time gap between bond and trial, or he was a *very* busy criminal, or both.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:24 PM (t0OGg)
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These types of *special* people will happily commit three more crimes before lunch, right after they've been released on "bail."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 23, 2023 12:25 PM (YIVH2)

71 I have not heard a single complaint from any of the hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots that elected her.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 23, 2023 12:26 PM (lTGtQ)

72 54 bond violations? There was either one hell of a time gap between bond and trial, or he was a *very* busy criminal, or both.

I assume that he ignored his ankle monitor, and just went about his business. Every time he left the house for an unapproved reason was a violation.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 23, 2023 12:26 PM (2tUFv)

73 65 This is the thing I do not understand. Why do these inner cities keep voting for Democrats against their own interest? No matter how badly the elected democrat performs, they continue to get reelected. Looked at some polls yesterday o RCP and Biden is actually in positive territory in two different polls. Who the hell thinks Biden is doing a good job? 27% think hte country is going in the right direction but Biden is doing a good job? This makes no sense.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2023 12:24 PM (Y+l9t)

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When there are genuine elections, it's probably largely cultural and the fact that the GOP doesn't try. Democrats are literally the only game in town, the entire family has always voted Democrat, and Democrats show up to ask for votes while handing out goodies to ensure support.

When there aren't genuine elections, it's just the machine protecting itself and the people accepting it quietly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:26 PM (LvTSG)

74 I also think there might be the idea that it's one thing if St. Louis residents have mutually agreed to live in Mad Max World and slaughter each other, but OUTSIDERS AND VISITORS did not vote for this shit.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:26 PM (C1Zwz)

75 This is the thing I do not understand. Why do these inner cities keep voting for Democrats against their own interest?

- first off, the inhabitants could give a crap about some "rich people" from outside the city, AKA tourists. in Philly they openly hate tourists.

- second off, the way voting works is you don't even have to bother to do it! the machine votes for you, easy peasy. if you made it legal/verifiable, these people would have to get off their duffs and actually walk to the mailbox or something. THAT IS RACIST!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 23, 2023 12:26 PM (w0NJk)

76 "She really needs to do some soul-searching of whether or not she wants to continue as circuit attorney, because she's lost the trust of the people," Jones said.
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This is a bizarre statement. Whether or not "the people" trust her has no bearing on whether she "wants to continue as a circuit attorney." It may change her *ability* to do so, but not her desire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:26 PM (t0OGg)

77
My daughter got her PhD at Wash U. in St. Louis. I prayed every day. She's now in DC.
Posted by: Archimedes

So out of the frying pan...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2023 12:27 PM (n+4am)

78 There are ways to make it work.

Posted by: Korean Peninsula Model at February 23, 2023 12:27 PM (NGGa8)

79 oh it's totally legal and real. I was wondering whether or not you can get a judge (or whoever the trier of facts is here) to go along with it, as a practical matter.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:22 PM (C1Zwz)

It should go directly to the state Supreme Court. Cases involving someone's right to hold office are explicitly under its jurisdiction.

However, I have no idea about the positions of the individual justices. Our judges don't act too stupid as a rule, but that's no guarantee.

Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:27 PM (bhRsz)

80 This is the thing I do not understand. Why do these inner cities keep voting for Democrats against their own interest? No matter how badly the elected democrat performs, they continue to get reelected.

Because they hate you more than they love their children? (attributed, falsely, to Golda Meir)

Also, for blacks to admit this person sucks would be to admit what fools they've been. That's not what they do.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 23, 2023 12:27 PM (eOEVl)

81 76 I also think there might be the idea that it's one thing if St. Louis residents have mutually agreed to live in Mad Max World and slaughter each other, but OUTSIDERS AND VISITORS did not vote for this shit.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:26 PM (C1Zwz)

Well we make fun of those backpackers who go to the Middle East...

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:27 PM (eYoxG)

82 This is the thing I do not understand. Why do these inner cities keep voting for Democrats against their own interest?

***

Take a good look at the people in these inner cities and see if you think they're good at decision making.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 12:27 PM (wb1YC)

83 > Objection: assumes facts not in evidence.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 23, 2023 12:16 PM (eOEVl)

Yes. Soul-searching requires that you have a soul.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:28 PM (bW8dp)

84 If the Governor and legislature had any common sense they'd break up St. Louis as a city disincorporating portions as it makes sense geographically into other entities (towns/county level government) to help dilute the political power of the city which was likely established back when it had four times the population and wasn't a flaming dumpster fire.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at February 23, 2023 12:28 PM (AyznQ)

85 This makes no sense.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Yeah.. I think both St. Loo and Kansas City haven't "elected" anyone in 50 years. People are installed, not elected.

Posted by: MkY at February 23, 2023 12:28 PM (Io4D1)

86 I am on board with an eye for an eye. But I think these so-called prosecutors should also be on the hook for the same, if not personally and financially liable for all crimes caused by their pets.
Posted by: Comrade flounder

End qualified immunity for ALL public servants.
One of two things happen:
When they know they can be personally sued,
they LEARN the Constitution and/or they quit fucking with people over bullshit.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 12:28 PM (Ktdcc)

87 "She really needs to do some soul-searching of whether or not she wants to continue as circuit attorney, because she's lost the trust of the people," Jones said.

At this point, what Gardner wants should not even be a consideration.

Posted by: Emmie at February 23, 2023 12:28 PM (Emce2)

88 AtC seems to think that there is a way out of this other than national divorce. I agree that divorce isn't the answer, because the left would still be the bitter ex who constantly seeks to destroy us. But we also can't vote our way out.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 23, 2023 12:20 PM (JglZ

The divorce makes the ensuing war cleaner.

I don't see how we'd be able to make the left not crazy on a large scale, and absent that everything is being run into the ground. Extinguishing of civilization and all. This very much ranks up there was one of the least avoidable conflicts in history since the alternative appears to be widespread death and destruction.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (eYoxG)
***

Well, like what happens when you lead up to a divorce, throw the abusive spouse out. Or in this case, start isolating the urban centers. Civil disobedience, blockade cities, march on school board meetings and such. Make it as painful for them as it is for us. That might bring the saner ones around.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 12:28 PM (anj39)

89 Stores of ridicule and mockery are up!!
To the meme cannons!

Posted by: micky at February 23, 2023 12:29 PM (3byMq)

90 Is it the nature of the crime? I think that actually cuts against this case being so special. It was basically a horrific accident. It wasn't a premeditated violent crime like so many other let-loose criminals have committed.

So what gives? Why this case? Why now?
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (iFTx/)

For the general public, the most frightening kinds of crimes are the "That could have been me" crimes. Domestic violence, gangs fighting over their own turf, people killed in a bar fight - It's not exactly "They got what they deserved" but people like my mom know they face zero threat from those things. But innocently walking along a street when a guy who shouldn't be out is out? Yeah, now there is a push, even from nice old ladies like my mom, to do something.

Posted by: Wally at February 23, 2023 12:29 PM (FJYfm)

91 Didn't this DA go after the couple that were defending their Home with an AR-15 and a non working pistol (they used the pistol for court and they made it unusable) and the Cops, DA or forensic lab made the pistol useable again

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 23, 2023 12:29 PM (qvBE6)

92 I assume that he ignored his ankle monitor, and just went about his business. Every time he left the house for an unapproved reason was a violation.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 23, 2023 12:26 PM (2tUFv)

My assumption, as well.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 23, 2023 12:29 PM (DRSnL)

93 The lesson here is not that St. Louis is being run by feral savages, which it is, the lesson is that you need to stay out of St. Louis and any other large cities run by democrats.

If you choose not to, you chose poorly. You stand a good chance of losing your life or in this case, limbs.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 23, 2023 12:29 PM (z1bdm)

94 She's exactly what I need on my staff!

Posted by: Adam Schiff at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (NQ5yB)

95 70 >>>Is it the nature of the crime? I think that actually cuts against this case being so special. It was basically a horrific accident. It wasn't a premeditated violent crime like so many other let-loose criminals have committed.

I think the fact that it wasn't a death but a maiming makes it worse. With a dead person, well, they're gone. Forgotten. But a live maimed person hangs around.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:25 PM (C1Zwz)
_______________

Good point, but there have been rapes and beatings by let-loose criminals before. So the fact that the victim is still alive doesn't completely explain it. But you may be on to something: maybe it's the horrific injuries themselves that are the differential. Pretty young female athlete with one leg ripped off and another so badly mangled it had to be amputated. Real stomach-churning stuff.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (iFTx/)

96 This is the thing I do not understand. Why do these inner cities keep voting for Democrats against their own interest?
***
Take a good look at the people in these inner cities and see if you think they're good at decision making.
Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 12:27 PM (wb1YC)
***
Ahem.
Voters vs ballots.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (anj39)

97 She should run for a house seat. She'd win.

My understanding is that she doesn't really work. She sort of shows up every so often.

Abortion Mouse was the same way...Brad Raffensberger, etc.

Posted by: MJ at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (zwDuR)

Local government corruption at it's finest. It's why, I suspect, the GOP and Dems were united in opposing any election reforms: no one wants people looking to closely because they'd discover that both parties mismanage voting at the local level, are lazy, and embezzle a huge amount of money.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (wmDcS)

98 If there are still good people in St. Louis, they need to flee, like, 5 years ago. Failing that, they need to flee today.

My daughter got her PhD at Wash U. in St. Louis. I prayed every day. She's now in DC.
Posted by: Archimedes

Left in '79 and haven't been back except to pass through four times going to other destinations.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (Ktdcc)

99 Isn't walking around in St. Louis a suicidal act anyway?

Posted by: Sphynx at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (P6qMv)

100 Well we make fun of those backpackers who go to the Middle East...

Id rather my kid went to the Middle East than East St Louis, sorry Wash U, maybe you guys should try to fix it

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (w0NJk)

101
Prediction: NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. Sadly. I really hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Elric Blade

You may as well predict the sun rises in the east tomorrow. Both are easy no-risk predictions.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (63Dwl)

102 This is where we are.

We have to get rid of the scumbags who protect the scumbags who protect the scumbags.

Talk about behind the 8 ball.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (yEauh)

103
"She's lost the trust of the people," even a key ally admits.
---
"oops, so sorry"
Too bad these pricks only see their hero is problematic after people are killed and maimed.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (WGDUh)

104 This is the thing I do not understand. Why do these inner cities keep voting for Democrats against their own interest? No matter how badly the elected democrat performs, they continue to get reelected. ...
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2023 12:24 PM (Y+l9t)
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This question requires that one assume that the elections are legitimate when there is no reason to assume that elections are legitimate. How many urban elections have been stolen over the last 30 years? Probably a lot.

But even if the elections *are* legitimate, there are tons of people who will go along with the flow and vote the way they're told to vote, or how they've always voted. Sure this might suck and everything is awful, but it's better than those other guys because I just know in my heart that it's true.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (t0OGg)

105 The lower orders understand that crime is a way of holding their territory.

Posted by: mr tmz at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (rJ48h)

106 93 Didn't this DA go after the couple that were defending their Home with an AR-15 and a non working pistol (they used the pistol for court and they made it unusable) and the Cops, DA or forensic lab made the pistol useable again
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 23, 2023 12:29 PM (qvBE6)

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Yes.

And then she won re-election by 50 points after the whole thing fell apart.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

107 In find it hard to care. Remove Gardner, and the people of St. Louis, gits all, will elect another evil imbecile.

Think I'm being a doomer? Gardner won re-election by a roughly 75/25 margin in 2020 - after a troubled tenure.

Here's an idea: Drive them all out of the city.

Until people mean this in the most literal sense, nothing changes. So screw St. Louis. It deserves every bad thing.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (KFhLj)

108 This is the future of America. All blue cities have DAs like this, all installed by Soros.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (VWp7G)

109

...?....

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (vwCZJ)

110 Well, this is what Soros and the left want. They want you to vote for the corrupt left or DIE. DIE DIE DIE.

By any means necessary. The bad part of all of that is, those that are doing the killing will be nothing more than slaves of the left when they take full control.

You murder at your own peril, fools.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (IXZGh)

111 Didn't this DA go after the couple that were defending their Home with an AR-15 and a non working pistol (they used the pistol for court and they made it unusable) and the Cops, DA or forensic lab made the pistol useable again
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

Yes. McCluskys, iirc.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (Ktdcc)

112 Elsewhere in clown world, a small fashion designer discovered that one-of-a-kind clothes from luggage she "lost" in 2018 has turned up being worn by Sam Brinton.

https://tinyurl.com/3zn4wxzm

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (X4R3E)

113 She will stay or fail upward. Bet all you have on that.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (17s+e)

114 to help dilute the political power of the city

That would be Diluting The Black Vote.

The Department of Justice would be on you in a nanosecond.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (2tUFv)

115 Isn't walking around in St. Louis a suicidal act anyway?

It is extremely segregated. You can literally go one block and transition from relatively safe to your life is in imminent danger.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (eOEVl)

116 109 Think I'm being a doomer? Gardner won re-election by a roughly 75/25 margin in 2020 - after a troubled tenure.

Until people mean this in the most literal sense, nothing changes. So screw St. Louis. It deserves every bad thing.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (KFhLj)

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Wall up the city is a better solution.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (LvTSG)

117 Even Fred G. Sanford fled St. Louis.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (63Dwl)

118
LOL. Never change, Sponge.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 23, 2023 12:18 PM (DRSnL)

I fully expect someone to shoot me and put me out of my misery at the next MoMe.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (IXZGh)

119 107 The lower orders understand that crime is a way of holding their territory.

mr tmz you are dead on

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (w0NJk)

120 80 There are ways to make it work.
Posted by: Korean Peninsula Model at February 23, 2023 12:27 PM (NGGa

So we just need a Superpower and next door great power to get involved.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (eYoxG)

121 The animal needed a shock collar instead of an ankle monitor.

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (NQ5yB)

122
When George Soros takes his dirt nap, does he have offspring that think like him to carry on with his "altruism" ?

Posted by: Sphynx at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (P6qMv)

123 ace impeachment is not just impossible (there are no counterparts on the Dem side to the loathsome Romney, or Kinzinger), it's a ridiculous diversion from actually doing something. Which involves $$. Appropriations are the Congress's chief power. When they're not used - and the GOP has not used this leverage in living memory, in a serious way - almost everything becomes theater.

The Routinely Unbelievable case, for example, you talked about yesterday - the USAF vet congressional candidate whose military records were leaked. "Nothing will be done". True - but it wouldn't be true if the House GOP made it clear the USAF would take a 25% hit to their appropriation until and unless they deliver a full investigation, names, and consequences for those names.

It's an inscrutable chicken-and-egg paradox as to which is the key problem, a useless preposterous political class (mostly GOP), or a brain-dead unserious electorate that doesn't care or understand. But there's no barrier to results other than inaction.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (OTzUX)

124 You may as well predict the sun rises in the east tomorrow. Both are easy no-risk predictions.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (63Dwl)

Ackshully, the Earth rotates to expose the Sun. The Sun isn't moving, so it doesn't "rise".

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (Y5qcH)

125 124
When George Soros takes his dirt nap, does he have offspring that think like him to carry on with his "altruism" ?
Posted by: Sphynx at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (P6qMv)

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Yes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

126 >>>The lower orders understand that crime is a way of holding their territory.
Posted by: mr tmz

They're also emboldened. They know they won't get any real time, so they continue doing things like this.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (VWp7G)

127 Local government corruption at it's finest. It's why, I suspect, the GOP and Dems were united in opposing any election reforms: no one wants people looking to closely because they'd discover that both parties mismanage voting at the local level, are lazy, and embezzle a huge amount of money.
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Agreed. Going after corruption or cleaning up the system means less control for both parties.

Posted by: MJ at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (zwDuR)

128 Cities are subsidiary to states. Eventually chaotic, crime-ridden hell-hole cities will be dissolved and placed under state control.

Posted by: mr tmz at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (rJ48h)

129 It is extremely segregated. You can literally go one block and transition from relatively safe to your life is in imminent danger.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (eOEVl)

This is true in a number of major US cities.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (eYoxG)

130 Hawaiian judge will protect her.

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (NQ5yB)

131 A Democrat facing consequences. The deuce you say!

Posted by: Iblis at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (9221z)

132 Do the muleskinners in Missouri even know how to drive a horseless carriage?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (Jg7EG)

133 131 It is extremely segregated. You can literally go one block and transition from relatively safe to your life is in imminent danger.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (eOEVl)

This is true in a number of major US cities.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (eYoxG)

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Louisville felt like this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (LvTSG)

134 The animal needed a shock collar instead of an ankle monitor.
Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (NQ5yB)
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I think an explosive collar like the ones used in the movie "The Running Man" would also be appropriate. Leave the house and BOOM!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (YIVH2)

135 Will she be a 'victim' of vigilantism?

Posted by: davidt at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (SYTee)

136 >>>Ackshully, the Earth rotates to expose the Sun. The Sun isn't moving, so it doesn't "rise".
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Mine doesn't rise anymore, either!

Posted by: F. Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (VWp7G)

137 This is true in a number of major US cities.

used to be like that in Philly but now it's literally a bad western town with a pussy Sheriff throughout

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (w0NJk)

138 127 124
When George Soros takes his dirt nap, does he have offspring that think like him to carry on with his "altruism" ?
Posted by: Sphynx at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (P6qMv)

=========

Yes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

He's apparently a permabear(of the worrying type rather than aggressive shorts) when it comes to investing though, so maybe he doesn't have the cajones of his old man.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (eYoxG)

139 I'm Mayor Pete, and I'll approve this message as soon as I get back from some personal leave.

Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (a3Q+t)

140 Left in '79 and haven't been back except to pass through four times going to other destinations.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (Ktdcc)

See all the decay kids? Ok, roll up the windows!

Posted by: The Griswalds at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (gmo/4)

141 So glad my SiL and her family got out of a St. Louis suburb over ten years ago. The maimed girl from the article is close to her oldest son's age, and they used to go downtown occasionally for sporting events. Now they live in town with us and enjoy our relative lack of crime.

Posted by: pookysgirl, getting Pookette into snow gear at February 23, 2023 12:34 PM (dtlDP)

142 Reagan's words about there being no escape from here when the 1000 yards of darkness descends ring in my ears daily.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2023 12:35 PM (I0KiK)

143 ... Is it the nature of the crime? I think that actually cuts against this case being so special. It was basically a horrific accident. It wasn't a premeditated violent crime like so many other let-loose criminals have committed.

So what gives? Why this case? Why now?
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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Timing and blind luck, probably. How much more bullshit is there in Saint Louis that isn't reported? It may well just be "the last straw." This guy maimed the victim. It may have been an accident rather than a premeditated crime, but it was gruesome and it shouldn't have happened, because the guy shouldn't have been out on the streets in the first place. It's a big, ugly, nasty thing and it was completely avoidable and so has thrown the problem of criminals going unprosecuted into the spotlight in that city.

I doubt very much that this reaction is about this case per se. It seems to me a lot more like, "that's it. This is the end of the line. It's just one thing after another in this shithole and now it's time to change it."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:35 PM (t0OGg)

144 Well we make fun of those backpackers who go to the Middle East...
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:27 PM (eYoxG)

The difference is, most of that savagery stays in the Middle East. It's far from impossible for the perps to make their way here, of course, but it is rather difficult logistically. Hoodlums in STL and other big cities? Driving to one of the suburbs and pulling that crap isn't difficult at all. They're a danger to their immediate neighbors, and it's the responsibility of the government to deal with them, rather than leave said neighbors with the choice of toughing it out or moving.

Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:35 PM (bhRsz)

145 Cities are subsidiary to states. Eventually chaotic, crime-ridden hell-hole cities will be dissolved and placed under state control.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (rJ48h)
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Considering how badly some of the states are run, that doesn't fill me with confidence, though I suppose it's a better alternative...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 23, 2023 12:35 PM (YIVH2)

146
I fully expect someone to shoot me and put me out of my misery at the next MoMe.
Posted by: Sponge

No way!
We'll defend you unt... wait, what? Oh...

Sorry Sponge, you're on your own.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 23, 2023 12:35 PM (WGDUh)

147 The animal needed a shock collar instead of an ankle monitor.
Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (NQ5yB)

Not the sort of collar I have in mind.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2023 12:36 PM (I0KiK)

148 This is true in a number of major US cities.

I lived on a transition block in Chicago. Turn left, and I was in a rich white neighborhood. Turn right, and I was in a poor black neighborhood.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 23, 2023 12:36 PM (2tUFv)

149 It is extremely segregated. You can literally go one block and transition from relatively safe to your life is in imminent danger.

***

See also: Atlanta.
The last time I was there in 2013 or 2014, I left out of the convention center there downtown, pulled out of the parking deck headed toward the interstate, and within six blocks I ended up in an off Broadway production of The Wire.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 12:36 PM (wb1YC)

150 Amputate Kim Gardner's legs, along with the scumbag criminal. That's what they both deserve.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 23, 2023 12:36 PM (sVtYq)

151
No way!
We'll defend you unt... wait, what? Oh...

Sorry Sponge, you're on your own.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 23, 2023 12:35 PM (WGDUh)

it is as it was........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:36 PM (IXZGh)

152 Two California legislators have introduced a bill to ban police dogs. Because using police dogs unfairly targets black and brown people and is deeply….racist.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 23, 2023 12:36 PM (GUlqr)

153 Agreed. Going after corruption or cleaning up the system means less control for both parties.

Posted by: MJ at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (zwDuR)

See: Alaska

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2023 12:36 PM (I0KiK)

154 Where does the left find so many butt ugly women? Talk about a renewable resource.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2023 12:37 PM (Y5qcH)

155 St. Louis City is a lot like Chicago when it comes to general elections. The vote that matters is in the primary because whichever Democrat wins the primary is going to overwhelming win the general.

A white female Democrat who previously worked in the the circuit attorney's office (many jurisdictions call them district or prosecuting attorneys, but called circuit attorneys in MO) ran in 2020 to oust Gardner but lost handily. Race and to a lesser degree incumbency mattered.

Posted by: Kreskin at February 23, 2023 12:37 PM (xP8Wr)

156 To the appropriations issue noted above.

I have confidence that Speaker McCarthy won't rock the boat. The spice must flow.

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2023 12:37 PM (NQ5yB)

157 I lived on a transition block in Chicago. Turn left, and I was in a rich white neighborhood. Turn right, and I was in a poor black neighborhood.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 23, 2023 12:36 PM (2tUFv)

Come to New Orleans, you're never more than a block away from a shithole.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2023 12:37 PM (Y5qcH)

158 155 A white female Democrat who previously worked in the the circuit attorney's office (many jurisdictions call them district or prosecuting attorneys, but called circuit attorneys in MO) ran in 2020 to oust Gardner but lost handily. Race and to a lesser degree incumbency mattered.
Posted by: Kreskin at February 23, 2023 12:37 PM (xP8Wr)

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Gardner won that race by about 30 points.

This is literally what St. Louis wants. Let them have it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:38 PM (LvTSG)

159 Biden will appoint her to something.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 23, 2023 12:38 PM (JglZ8)

160 Not the sort of collar I have in mind

**

Ever see The Running Man?

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 12:38 PM (wb1YC)

161 156 To the appropriations issue noted above.

I have confidence that Speaker McCarthy won't rock the boat. The spice must flow.
Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2023 12:37 PM (NQ5yB)

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He who controls the spice, controls the universe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:38 PM (LvTSG)

162 Chitcago is a corrupt shithole and has been for generations. The unions own everything and the politicians are union benefactors.

That city is and will ALWAYS be a shithole. Even the voters that are LEGIT don't want to put up with the pain it would take to fix it, so status quo is forevermore.

As it is with ALL big blue shitholes. They're toast.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:38 PM (IXZGh)

163 It was the ankle monitor what caused the car accident. I will sue city.

Posted by: Dindu at February 23, 2023 12:38 PM (wrJpE)

164 She will stay or fail upward. Bet all you have on that.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM

Yep. Boston's sorry Soros DA is now its US Attorney, thanks to Brandon.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2023 12:38 PM (Wnv9h)

165 93 Didn't this DA go after the couple that were defending their Home with an AR-15 and a non working pistol (they used the pistol for court and they made it unusable) and the Cops, DA or forensic lab made the pistol useable again
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 23, 2023 12:29 PM (qvBE6)

they did this so the DA could charge the wife, I don't thing her gun had a firing pin or trigger and they put it back in. They tried to railroad them.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (qvBE6)

166 Two California legislators have introduced a bill to ban police dogs. Because using police dogs unfairly targets black and brown people and is deeply….racist.
Posted by: Jen the original

They're trained to go after people who hold their handguns sideways.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (FVME7)

167 Taiwan is perfectly capable of defending itself.

They have cruise missiles and the grid coordinates for the 3 Gorges Dam complex.

I think that's called a deterrent.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (KATBx)

168
Ever see The Running Man?
Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 12:38 PM (wb1YC)

Who loves you? WHO DO YOU LOVE!!???

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (IXZGh)

169 >>>Didn't this DA go after the couple that were defending their Home with an AR-15 and a non working pistol (they used the pistol for court and they made it unusable) and the Cops, DA or forensic lab made the pistol useable again

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 23, 2023 12:29 PM (qvBE6)

yup that's this dog-ugly gangster

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (C1Zwz)

170 I fully expect someone to shoot me and put me out of my misery at the next MoMe.
Posted by: Sponge

If someone did shoot you, and then called out "First!" would it be appropriate to laugh?

Posted by: Wally at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (FJYfm)

171 Did FJB's dog bite a black secret service agent?

Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (NQ5yB)

172 "Wall up the city is a better solution."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:32 PM (LvTSG)

Missouri could give it to Illinois. I'm a Wisconsinite, Illinois can have Madison and Milwakee and every thing south of them also. I'm a giver.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (76Foq)

173 They're also emboldened. They know they won't get any real time, so they continue doing things like this.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (VWp7G)

This.
And when emboldened, they think they can begin to expand their territories. Then they get into neighborhoods where t hey aren't wanted. Problems follow.
Hopefully the local law enforcement community is capable of handling the issue, If not, then vigilantes.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (anj39)

174 There are a growing number of job applicants who won't take jobs in places like NYC. Combined with the fact the Phony Pandemic has made significant changes in remote working, or illustrated both the attractiveness and low cost of areas outside these cities, a reckoning is coming. They are losing their corporate tax base and the revenues that come with large amounts of office workers. Crime is chasing away residents who can afford to leave. Sooner or later you end up with a crime ridden city in dire straights that nobody wants to live in unless they have no choice.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (OjHyA)

175 You can literally go one block and transition from relatively safe to your life is in imminent danger.

Baltimore's like that too. I went to a concert at the crappy arena downtown, turned the wrong way at one point, and I was pretty much on The Wire.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (ZGrMX)

176 Whether it's a volleyball camp or tournament, a major league baseball game, a convention, whatever, it's time for Red State Americans to just start saying no to even going to these Soros experiments in New Society Hell. If the locals want this -and given her re-election it appears that they do- let them have it. But we just have to stop going to these places.
Posted by: Wally

I agree. A lot of times conferences, sports tournaments, etc. are scheduled in these hell-holes because they are cheaper to book events because no one else wants to go there. I have turned down invitations to conferences in St. Louis, Philadelphia, and Houston for this very reason.

Posted by: Cheri at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (oiNtH)

177 31 Whether it's a volleyball camp or tournament, a major league baseball game, a convention, whatever, it's time for Red State Americans to just start saying no to even going to these Soros experiments in New Society Hell. If the locals want this -and given her re-election it appears that they do- let them have it. But we just have to stop going to these places.

---

Yeah, white flight delayed the inevitable, but soon there will be no escaping this. Biden's new HUD policies are designed to ship vibrant diversity into the heart of every suburb where whites tried fleeing for, uhhh, "good schools" (why are the schools better?). The sick, evil people responsible for this know that their policies will hurt us; that's exactly what the Kim Gardners were put there to do. They used to have to be coy about their aims, but now with demographics on their side they're pretty much free to call openly for ethnic cleansing. They hate you and want you destroyed, and they will hunt you down wherever you try to run.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (0Uf+z)

178 >>>This is literally what St. Louis wants. Let them have it.

do visitors who HAVE to come into the city for like government functions (to pay bills at a tax office or something) also deserve this?

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (C1Zwz)

179 >>151 Amputate Kim Gardner's legs, along with the scumbag criminal. That's what they both deserve.
Posted by: Lady in Black

Newsletter?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (D25PY)

180 Gardner won that race by about 30 points.

This is literally what St. Louis wants. Let them have it.

--

There's a lot of truth to that, TJM. Every voter that votes these sorry SOBs into office should live with what they've done. Unfortunately, this poor out of town girl suffered the consequences of those dumb voters.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (sVtYq)

181 The Sun isn't moving
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

That's not true. The Sun is moving with an average velocity of 720,000 kilometers per hour around the Milky Way galaxy, and completes a rotation in around 230,000,000 years.

It also rotates around its axis as it revolves around the galaxy.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (a3Q+t)

182 Bill to ban giving minors "puberty blockers" and "sex change surgeries" has just passed the Tennessee legislature, going to the Governor, who is expected to sign.

More of this, please.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (bW8dp)

183 Not saying I would do it, but I would totes understand if kimmy and the hack in black both got some justice from the girl's dad. The criminal himself? I would do something so I could get incarcerated and kill him in prison.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (3CCua)

184 Sooner or later you end up with a crime ridden city in dire straights that nobody wants to live in unless they have no choice.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (OjHyA)

Then Soros and Blackrock sweep in a buy up all the properties for cheap.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2023 12:41 PM (Y5qcH)

185 Posted by: Wesley Crusher at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (a3Q+t)

Shut up, Wesley.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 23, 2023 12:41 PM (DRSnL)

186

If someone did shoot you, and then called out "First!" would it be appropriate to laugh?
Posted by: Wally at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (FJYfm)

It is expected. Not sure how they'll respond when and if I make it to those Pearly Gates.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:41 PM (IXZGh)

187 Incompetence plus woke communist equal catastrophic results.

Posted by: polynikes at February 23, 2023 12:41 PM (h1KC2)

188 Two California legislators have introduced a bill to ban police dogs. Because using police dogs unfairly targets black and brown people and is deeply….racist.

Those legislators should be nom-noms for the bork-borks.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (ZGrMX)

189 > Taiwan is perfectly capable of defending itself.

They've bought a fuckton of advanced subs in recent years, also.

The People's Liberation Army Navy would become the world's largest reef shortly after hostilities commenced.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (bW8dp)

190 "Two California legislators have introduced a bill to ban police dogs."

I'm okay with that, all states should, it's junk science and bad law.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (76Foq)

191 Even the voters that are LEGIT don't want to put up with the pain it would take to fix it

-
Nuke it from space?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (FVME7)

192 Kim Gardner seems nice.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (Hudry)

193

If someone did shoot you, and then called out "First!" would it be appropriate to laugh?
Posted by: Wally at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (FJYfm)

Although, it would be more appropriate if the 7th or 8th one in yells it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (IXZGh)

194 Nothing to see here - just the United States trying to rig Nigeria's election:

https://tinyurl.com/39nx9fxv

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (2tUFv)

195 178 >>>This is literally what St. Louis wants. Let them have it.

do visitors who HAVE to come into the city for like government functions (to pay bills at a tax office or something) also deserve this?

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (C1Zwz)

=========

I would refuse to go. I'll Skype in to that meeting.

Besides, is removing Gardner going to undo the system that put her there with a 50 point majority? Is her replacement going to suddenly do what the voters obviously don't want based on the elections of the past few years in St. Louis?

I understand why a state level Republican is trying to make an example of her. It's good politics, but that's about all it will end up being. She'll get replaced by someone as bad or worse, and St. Louis will continue to circle the drain while the people who live there accept it by either voting for it or accepting the cheat machine that keeps people like Gardner in place, whichever is true.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (LvTSG)

196 Kim Gardner seems nice.
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (Hudry)

She seems fully boosted.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:42 PM (IXZGh)

197 This is literally what St. Louis wants. Let them have it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:38 PM (LvTSG)

As a Missourian, no. I refuse to just accept that I can't go watch a Cardinals game or visit the zoo (STL has a really good one) without taking my life in my hands. Getting rid of Gardner won't change things all on its own, but it is a step. And seriously, if the people living there won't change, find ways to make it so unbearable that they all move to Illinois. Or DC. I don't care.

Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (bhRsz)

198 >>>used to be like that in Philly but now it's literally a bad western town with a pussy Sheriff throughout
Posted by: BlackOrchid

I love it when you talk dirty. And you're absolutely correct.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (VWp7G)

199 >>>When George Soros takes his dirt nap, does he have offspring that think like him to carry on with his "altruism" ?

yes I mentioned earlier this week that his disgusting get is the deputy manager of the Open Society Fund. He is running the day to day.

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (C1Zwz)

200 There are a growing number of job applicants who won't take jobs in places like NYC. Combined with the fact the Phony Pandemic has made significant changes in remote working, or illustrated both the attractiveness and low cost of areas outside these cities, a reckoning is coming. They are losing their corporate tax base and the revenues that come with large amounts of office workers. Crime is chasing away residents who can afford to leave. Sooner or later you end up with a crime ridden city in dire straights that nobody wants to live in unless they have no choice.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (OjHyA)
++++
Even if the money was compelling, I would not move to a blue hive. I just escaped one (Denver, which isn't *that* bad in comparison to NYC or SF) and life is so much better now. Yes, by staying here I understand that my lifetime earnings will be lower. When my job ends, I will be in the local market because you can't count on remote work being a thing forever, and I will take one hell of a haircut when that happens. I know it. I have planned for it. It is worth it. Life is better here than it was in a blue hive, and I don't want to go back to one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (t0OGg)

201 Probably stupid thought but could the Democrats be pushing disarming people so hard for fear people will start protecting themselves if Soros DAs won't?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (eGTCV)

202 65 This is the thing I do not understand. Why do these inner cities keep voting for Democrats against their own interest? No matter how badly the elected democrat performs, they continue to get reelected. Looked at some polls yesterday o RCP and Biden is actually in positive territory in two different polls. Who the hell thinks Biden is doing a good job? 27% think hte country is going in the right direction but Biden is doing a good job? This makes no sense.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2023 12:24 PM (Y+l9t)

Our rabid lefty relative asks the same question -- why do we vote against our own interests? She specifically wondered why we didn't support ObamaCare, telling us it was designed to help people like us. When ObamaCare passed, our health insurance expenses quadrupled and the hours at my job were cut 20% to comply. Yay, government "help".

Posted by: Emmie at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (Emce2)

203 I hate that this happened, but I am sure the fact that it happened to a club volleyball player will get this joker and his co-defendent attorney the widespread attention and justice they deserve.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (sI15f)

204 Anyone notice the ash on Joey's forehead yesterday? Disgraceful.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (D25PY)

205 178 >>>This is literally what St. Louis wants. Let them have it.

do visitors who HAVE to come into the city for like government functions (to pay bills at a tax office or something) also deserve this?

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (C1Zwz)

Let's say she does get removed. Then she runs again and Soros backs her. And the fine citizens of Sain Louis go ahead and vote her in again?

Who's fault is it then, ace? Caveat Viator.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (zZu0s)

206 These cities are battlefields. Anytime you step onto that battlefield you should be under no allusions what to expect.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (OjHyA)

207 Bill to ban giving minors "puberty blockers" and "sex change surgeries" has just passed the Tennessee legislature, going to the Governor, who is expected to sign.

The correct term is "life-saving gender transition surgeries", bigot.

Posted by: The Media! at February 23, 2023 12:44 PM (2tUFv)

208 A.G. needs to muse publicly, "yannow, if vigilante action were to happen in this case, I'd really have to have a hard think about no-billing it, assuming the perps were ever identified."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2023 12:44 PM (tkR6S)

209 (they used the pistol for court and they made it unusable) and the Cops, DA or forensic lab made the pistol useable again
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 23, 2023 12:29 PM (qvBE6)

Well it was a Sterling so it probably never worked right.

Posted by: Reforger at February 23, 2023 12:44 PM (thi0v)

210 Anyone notice the ash on Joey's forehead yesterday? Disgraceful.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (D25PY)

They only used it to cover up the knot on his forehead from falling down in AF1 and bouncing off a tray table.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:44 PM (IXZGh)

211 > I lived on a transition block in Chicago. Turn left, and I was in a rich white neighborhood. Turn right, and I was in a poor black neighborhood.

Yep, I've experienced that in Chicago. Walking along, minding my own business, and suddenly realized that I'd walked about a block too far south.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:44 PM (bW8dp)

212 These Big Blue City Democrats get elected pretty much the same way. It's all inside baseball/party politics as to who gets the nomination.

Then they hold a very unpublicized election where 20% of the electorate turns out, and the civil servants (teachers, gubmint workers) flood the zone, work the polls, cheat (did I mention "cheat"?) and Bob's-your-uncle the D gets elected.

Posted by: Zek at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (5FPX4)

213 Anyone notice the ash on Joey's forehead yesterday? Disgraceful.

***

That wasn't ash. Zelensky hadn't washed his ass yet.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (wb1YC)

214 206 These cities are battlefields. Anytime you step onto that battlefield you should be under no allusions what to expect.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (OjHyA)

Sadly, this. High Trust vs Low Trust.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (zZu0s)

215 197 As a Missourian, no. I refuse to just accept that I can't go watch a Cardinals game or visit the zoo (STL has a really good one) without taking my life in my hands. Getting rid of Gardner won't change things all on its own, but it is a step. And seriously, if the people living there won't change, find ways to make it so unbearable that they all move to Illinois. Or DC. I don't care.
Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (bhRsz)

=========

The way to make it unbearable in St. Louis to just let St. Louis continue what it's doing.

The reality is that the people either affirmatively want this or they refuse to address the fraud that keeps the situation in place. It's the reality of the situation, and the only people who can actually change it are the voters of St. Louis. They either change their voting behaviors or retake their franchise from the machine that denies it to them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (LvTSG)

216 >>>182 Bill to ban giving minors "puberty blockers" and "sex change surgeries" has just passed the Tennessee legislature, going to the Governor, who is expected to sign.

is this just the bill I talked about that bans *pre-pubesecent* minors -- those 12, 13 or younger -- and allows the "therapy" for all pubescent minors? Like, another Con the Rubes ruse?

Or is this a new bill aimed at correcting the last one?

Posted by: ace at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (C1Zwz)

217 148 This is true in a number of major US cities.

I lived on a transition block in Chicago. Turn left, and I was in a rich white neighborhood. Turn right, and I was in a poor black neighborhood.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 23, 2023 12:36 PM (2tUFv)
_____________

Not that different in NYC. The company I work for has garages in the Bronx. Really shitty neighborhood, one of the worst if not the worst in NYC. Sometimes if I'm there I walk home to my place on upper west side. It's only about 3 miles but it's night and day: from one of the worst places in NYC to one of the most affluent in 3 miles. And incredibly, you can almost sense the dividing line at about 110th street.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (iFTx/)

218 Sounds kinda insurrectioney.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (9UlRk)

219 Probably stupid thought but could the Democrats be pushing disarming people so hard for fear people will start protecting themselves if Soros DAs won't?
Posted by: That Northern skulker at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (eGTCV)

DING DING DING!!!!

ON to the BONUS round!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (IXZGh)

220 They only used it to cover up the knot on his forehead from falling down in AF1 and bouncing off a tray table.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:44 PM (IXZGh)
++++
You'd better "knot" mention that again, smartass.

Posted by: Secret Service at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (t0OGg)

221 If someone did shoot you, and then called out "First!" would it be appropriate to laugh?
Posted by: Wally at February 23, 2023 12:39 PM (FJYfm)

Only if they were the 4th one.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (yQpMk)

222 Posted by: Emmie at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (Emce2)

Your Lefty relatives are like all Leftist useful idiots.
They all are unable to determine cause and effect.

Posted by: polynikes at February 23, 2023 12:46 PM (h1KC2)

223 There are only 3 ways the problems of American cities sprawling into violent hell holes gets fixed

1) The people in those cities step up and remove their representatives. Now, vote fraud is rampant in the shitholes - I would expect a significant portion of the votes counted weren't cast by the people that supposedly sent them in - but as someone above pointed out, Gardner won her last election by 50%

2) The yutes move into the wealthy areas and go after the brahmin class. But as we've seen the cops WILL be told to clamp down on yutes that do this, versus the yutes destroying the middle/working/dependent class neighborhoods.

3) The red states take self government away from the blue shithole cities.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2023 12:46 PM (lc5cP)

224 Following on what Marcus T said, I think some of the economic impact of the Pandemic is yet to be felt. I live in a pretty wealthy area and there is an incredible amount of new construction going on. Giant office and apartment buildings. The permits for this building was given a while back as it takes a long time to go through the paperwork and hearinigs for these massive projects. yet there are For Lease signs everywhere. From small businesses to large apartment buildings giant signs adorning the buildings looking for tenants.
With inflation driving up rents there are fewer and fewer people who can afford to live here and if you can choose a new building versus an old building, the choice is obvious.
This has to be going on 1000 fold in these big cities with office buildings that used to house the laptop class that no longer needs to go into the office.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2023 12:46 PM (Y+l9t)

225 202 Our rabid lefty relative asks the same question -- why do we vote against our own interests? She specifically wondered why we didn't support ObamaCare, telling us it was designed to help people like us. When ObamaCare passed, our health insurance expenses quadrupled and the hours at my job were cut 20% to comply. Yay, government "help".
Posted by: Emmie at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (Emce2)

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The problem with that comparison is that deep red areas tend to be less crime ridden. Some are poorer than places like, you know, NYC and DC, but it's not like we fear for our lives when we leave our houses to go to the grocery store.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:46 PM (LvTSG)

226 211 > I lived on a transition block in Chicago. Turn left, and I was in a rich white neighborhood. Turn right, and I was in a poor black neighborhood.

Yep, I've experienced that in Chicago. Walking along, minding my own business, and suddenly realized that I'd walked about a block too far south.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:44 PM (bW8dp)

Louisville is like that. You go from the nice manicured lawns and start walking west, look down, look back up and notice the lawns are gone and the chain link fences and razor wire hemming in the factory parking lots.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:46 PM (zZu0s)

227 201 Probably stupid thought but could the Democrats be pushing disarming people so hard for fear people will start protecting themselves if Soros DAs won't?
----------------
That's part of it. BTW, if the shooting starts be sure to shoot the Media first. After that its merely a mop up operation.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 12:47 PM (Hudry)

228
Your Lefty relatives are like all Leftist useful idiots.
They all are unable to determine cause and effect.

Lefty Livs: Why does everything suck? We need a serious change!

Also lefty LIVs: Vote for a conservative? I CAN'T DO THAT!

Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2023 12:47 PM (lc5cP)

229 Anyone notice the ash on Joey's forehead yesterday? Disgraceful.

I didn't see ash, but when he was speaking in Poland he had a huge bruise on his forehead.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 12:47 PM (ZGrMX)

230 Yep, I've experienced that in Chicago. Walking along, minding my own business, and suddenly realized that I'd walked about a block too far south.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:44 PM (bW8dp)

I got off at the wrong subway while traveling to the Navy Yard in DC once. There's no better feeling then being in the hood in your faggety-ass dress whites.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2023 12:47 PM (Y5qcH)

231 "The crash sent the second car airborne, and it reportedly struck Janae as it rolled onto its roof and flew down the street. ... allegedly driving 45 mph in a 20 mph zone when he failed to obey a yield sign"

Gee, out free, driving without a license, while he was supposed to be home. If he an ounce of sense he would be just a tad bit careful? Nah ...

Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2023 12:47 PM (Cus5s)

232 201 Probably stupid thought but could the Democrats be pushing disarming people so hard for fear people will start protecting themselves if Soros DAs won't?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (eGTCV)

Throughout history, the reason for disarming the populace is to prevent the populace from rebelling.

Posted by: davidt at February 23, 2023 12:47 PM (SYTee)

233 These cities are battlefields. Anytime you step onto that battlefield you should be under no allusions what to expect.
Posted by: Marcus T
___

Which is why I say a prayer of thanks when Ex-Ex comes home from working there.

He doesn't like working there, but it's where the money's at, since there's little work to be found in rural areas.

Hope things are going well with you and yours.

Posted by: SMH at February 23, 2023 12:47 PM (UZzwM)

234 But she's St. Louis’ First Black Female top prosecutor.

Equity!

Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2023 12:48 PM (NpAcC)

235 "I know it. I have planned for it. It is worth it. Life is better here than it was in a blue hive, and I don't want to go back to one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (t0OGg)"

We were exchanging experiences the other day and more people are making this decision nowadays. Some of the financial companies are trying to force people back into their NYC offices and the attrition numbers are well above what they expected, so they had to regroup. There are far better places to live and work than NYC. Less pay? Yup. But much better quality of life.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:48 PM (OjHyA)

236 Then Soros and Blackrock sweep in a buy up all the properties for cheap.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2023 12:41 PM (Y5qcH)

The Robocop/Omni Corp canard

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 23, 2023 12:48 PM (CjHGv)

237 > is this just the bill I talked about that bans *pre-pubesecent* minors -- those 12, 13 or younger -- and allows the "therapy" for all pubescent minors? Like, another Con the Rubes ruse?

From the summary I just found, it bans "puberty blockers" from being used on pre-pubescent minors, and surgeries from being used on any minors. So, maybe somewhere in between?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:48 PM (bW8dp)

238 Houston has basically no zoning laws. We have areas that are worse than others but no real dividing line. ( stay off of Telephone road) .

Posted by: polynikes at February 23, 2023 12:48 PM (h1KC2)

239 St. Louis seems to have a powerful League of Women Voters & there's many Federal & state agencies in the Greater St. Louis region. Make some noise!

A wise moron recently wrote (paraphrased) once you get them on the run, you can't back off until/unless...

Posted by: Lola at February 23, 2023 12:48 PM (Wxlzw)

240 "She specifically wondered why we didn't support ObamaCare, telling us it was designed to help people like us."

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If only Stalin knew...

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 12:48 PM (wb1YC)

241 "Two California legislators have introduced a bill to ban police dogs."

I'm okay with that, all states should, it's junk science and bad law.
Posted by: lowandslow

I agree. 1. I'll never ask a dog to do something I wouldn't do.
And 2. If I have to climb thru that warehouse window to search for your ass, when I find you, I'll shoot you, take you to the woods, and claim suicide because there was no gun by the body.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 12:49 PM (Ktdcc)

242 "Hope things are going well with you and yours.
Posted by: SMH at February 23, 2023 12:47 PM (UZzwM)"

Same and all the best.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:49 PM (OjHyA)

243 If I was Janae Edmondson's father, Daniel Riley would already be dead.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2023 12:49 PM (LRmyo)

244 She specifically wondered why we didn't support ObamaCare, telling us it was designed to help people like us. When ObamaCare passed, our health insurance expenses quadrupled and the hours at my job were cut 20% to comply. Yay, government "help".

I was always amused at the people that believed it would cover all the people without coverage AND reduce costs - as Obama put it by 3000%.

In the end it increased costs, did little to increase coverage among citizens, AND even the illegals, the real target, still mostly don't use it preferring to go to the ER if they get sick.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2023 12:49 PM (lc5cP)

245 Houston has basically no zoning laws. We have areas that are worse than others but no real dividing line. ( stay off of Telephone road) .
Posted by: polynikes

FM1960 is a hoot.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 12:49 PM (Ktdcc)

246 A.G. needs to muse publicly, "yannow, if vigilante action were to happen in this case, I'd really have to have a hard think about no-billing it, assuming the perps were ever identified."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2023 12:44 PM (tkR6S)
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He might be thinking that, but declaring "open season" on (so-called) elected officials might not work out as intended.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (YIVH2)

247 Didja see this? Famous racist author /professor / activist /civil rights hero /feminist /communist /murderer Angela Davis finds out that her white ancestors came over on the Mayflower.

https://bit.ly/3YVwy0r

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (FVME7)

248 St. Louis seems to have a powerful League of Women Voters & there's many Federal & state agencies in the Greater St. Louis region. Make some noise!

Said league probably fully supports this DA. The Future is Female, you know.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (ZGrMX)

249 So which is worse - St. Louis or East St. Louis?

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (Hudry)

250 Diversity is a tax to subsidize incompetence.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (CjHGv)

251 These cities are battlefields. Anytime you step onto that battlefield you should be under no allusions what to expect.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:43 PM (OjHyA)

I'm sitting here trying to remember the last time I was in Seattle. Or for that matter anywhere in King County except for driving through. I think it was a Mariners game in 2017. I've no intention of going back.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (anj39)

252 Firefighter water used at the toxic Ohio chemical spill will be disposed of in another county as worried residents say they’re too ‘afraid to shower’: Pete Buttigieg is due in East Palestine today - 20 days since the disaster
https://mol.im/a/11784011

It's going to be a Texas problem!

Posted by: Ciampino - dump toxic waste in a Red State at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (qfLjt)

253 So which is worse - St. Louis or East St. Louis?
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East St. Louis, due to it being in Illinois.

Posted by: SMH at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (UZzwM)

254 Didja see this? Famous racist author /professor / activist /civil rights hero /feminist /communist /murderer Angela Davis finds out that her white ancestors came over on the Mayflower.

https://bit.ly/3YVwy0r
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (FVME7)

"They came over, owned and raped their slaves."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (IXZGh)

255 247 Didja see this? Famous racist author /professor / activist /civil rights hero /feminist /communist /murderer Angela Davis finds out that her white ancestors came over on the Mayflower.

https://bit.ly/3YVwy0r
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (FVME7)

I saw that somewhere yesterday. Hah!

ace should serve up some top flight cruelty.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (zZu0s)

256 So which is worse - St. Louis or East St. Louis?

In the 80s, East St. Louis was way worse. Now it's a tie.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (ZGrMX)

257 So which is worse - St. Louis or East St. Louis?

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (Hudry)

Carpenter filmed Escape from NY in East St. Louis.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (CjHGv)

258 It's interesting to take Amtrak south from Union Station in downtown Chicago. As you go deeper into the South Side, first you see steel cages over ground floor windows, then ground floor windows being bricked up, then second story windows being bricked up. Then it starts looking less like Mogadishu after you get out of Chicago proper into the southern suburbs.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (bW8dp)

259 We were exchanging experiences the other day and more people are making this decision nowadays. Some of the financial companies are trying to force people back into their NYC offices and the attrition numbers are well above what they expected, so they had to regroup. There are far better places to live and work than NYC. Less pay? Yup. But much better quality of life.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:48 PM (OjHyA)
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Quality of life counts. And there isn't any in the blue hives.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (t0OGg)

260 The reality is that the people either affirmatively want this or they refuse to address the fraud that keeps the situation in place. It's the reality of the situation, and the only people who can actually change it are the voters of St. Louis. They either change their voting behaviors or retake their franchise from the machine that denies it to them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:45 PM (LvTSG)

Right. Because we've seen so many examples of urban residents finally bowing to reality and voting Republican.

St. Louis (city and county) is ultimately a creation of the state government. And the rest of the state has a right not to put up with this BS any longer.

Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (bhRsz)

261 Being a conservative means helping the communist left achieve their goals... Insurrectionist.

Posted by: Mike Pence at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (17s+e)

262
I was always amused at the people that believed it would cover all the people without coverage AND reduce costs - as Obama put it by 3000%.

In the end it increased costs, did little to increase coverage among citizens, AND even the illegals, the real target, still mostly don't use it preferring to go to the ER if they get sick.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2023 12:49 PM (lc5cP)

Iirc the core thesis of Obamacare's "savings" was that hospitals and such were overcharging people, and so by requiring the hiring of a large bureaucracy (of women, imagine that) to do paperwork and cost/service tracking, costs would come down.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (eYoxG)

263 1) The people in those cities step up and remove their representatives. Now, vote fraud is rampant in the shitholes - I would expect a significant portion of the votes counted weren't cast by the people that supposedly sent them in - but as someone above pointed out, Gardner won her last election by 50%

My guess is that very little fraud is involved here. Internet says St. Louis is 50% black. When it comes to politics, that's a very tribal voting block. So unless Dems run another black Dem in the primary, there's no muh hope of defeating an incumbant black Dem in the primary. And there's no hope of doing so in the general election, even if the Republican is black, because that's also the most loyal Dem voting block in existence. St. Louis more so than most blue shitholes is likely in an irreversible death spiral. Bombing it like Dresden, not eletioneering, is the answer.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 23, 2023 12:52 PM (KFhLj)

264 201 Probably stupid thought but could the Democrats be pushing disarming people so hard for fear people will start protecting themselves if Soros DAs won't?

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They're pushing to disarm (white) people because they're planning to do things that they fear could result in those weapons being used. It's harder to genocide an armed population.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at February 23, 2023 12:52 PM (0Uf+z)

265 So which is worse - St. Louis or East St. Louis?
Posted by: Puddinhead

Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 12:52 PM (Ktdcc)

266 261 Being a conservative means helping the communist left achieve their goals... Insurrectionist.
Posted by: Mike Pence at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (17s+e)

Race Bannon would club you like a baby seal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:52 PM (zZu0s)

267 Didja see this? Famous racist author /professor / activist /civil rights hero /feminist /communist /murderer Angela Davis finds out that her white ancestors came over on the Mayflower.

https://bit.ly/3YVwy0r
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (FVME7)
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Heh.
A buddy of mine from Army days actually took Davis' Psych 101 class when he was a freshman and she a budding prof. Said she kept the politics out of the classroom and taught a pretty good class. He got an A.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 12:52 PM (anj39)

268 260 Right. Because we've seen so many examples of urban residents finally bowing to reality and voting Republican.

St. Louis (city and county) is ultimately a creation of the state government. And the rest of the state has a right not to put up with this BS any longer.
Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (bhRsz)

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What can the state do that will actually change the situation on the ground? If we're talking a DeSantis level cleaning of voting mechanisms in St. Louis, then I'd say there might be hope.

However, that's not what's being talked about.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:53 PM (LvTSG)

269 Yay Tennessee. Now go after the surgeons who slice and dice these minors.

They are, along with the groomers, guilty of sex crimes.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2023 12:53 PM (KATBx)

270 I'm sitting here trying to remember the last time I was in Seattle. Or for that matter anywhere in King County except for driving through. I think it was a Mariners game in 2017. I've no intention of going back.
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This is why the Braves moved out of Atlanta.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 12:53 PM (Hudry)

271 So which is worse - St. Louis or East St. Louis?
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (Hudry)

When I was in high school, STL itself wasn't seen as all that bad (though everyone knew there were some very sketchy neighborhoods), but East St. Louis was considered a no-go zone. It still is, but now most of St. Louis proper has descended to that level too.

Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:53 PM (bhRsz)

272 [holds up professionally printed sign]

NO MOTHER'S SON SHOULD BE SHOT FOR PEACEFULLY DRIVING A VEHICLE WITHOUT PERMISSION TO AN ALTERNATE DESTINATION.

Posted by: Cain Breeves at February 23, 2023 12:53 PM (TeCfW)

273 There was a police car chase behind my garage alley ( one way circle around my block) yesterday. It ended when the perp couldn't make the curve 4 doors down and crashed into our oak trees.

Posted by: polynikes at February 23, 2023 12:53 PM (h1KC2)

274 > St. Louis (city and county) is ultimately a creation of the state government. And the rest of the state has a right not to put up with this BS any longer.
Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (bhRsz)

Is it possible in Missouri for the state to revoke a city's charter or whatever?

Because it sounds like that's what needs to be done.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:53 PM (bW8dp)

275 "I'm sitting here trying to remember the last time I was in Seattle. Or for that matter anywhere in King County except for driving through. I think it was a Mariners game in 2017. I've no intention of going back.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (anj39)"

At the moment I am occasionally compelled to go into NYC. These were previously good areas where the risks were low. Not anymore. People get accosted just going for some food. Forget the subway and the number of psychopaths walking around is simply unfathomable. It's not worth it anymore.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:54 PM (OjHyA)

276 The commies have figured out that g*ns don't do much good in the case of mass starvation.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2023 12:54 PM (s6isk)

277 Drove through East St. Louis a few years back- notorious in the 90s as the murder capital of the US, it seemed a ghost town. Of course, so's Detroit now too. I guess as a city becomes unlivable, folks stop living there.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 23, 2023 12:54 PM (jVuPw)

278 But she's St. Louis’ First Black Female top prosecutor.

Equity!
Posted by: redridinghood

I'd give an arm and a leg for equity!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 12:54 PM (FVME7)

279 You guys would never do this right?
Man dressed as 7ft penis is arrested for harassing women
https://mol.im/a/11781259
Where's our Secretary of Transportation, he'd love it and would milk the occasion for all it's worth ...

Posted by: Ciampino - What a prick at February 23, 2023 12:54 PM (qfLjt)

280 There are a growing number of job applicants who won't take jobs in places like NYC. Combined with the fact the Phony Pandemic has made significant changes in remote working, or illustrated both the attractiveness and low cost of areas outside these cities, a reckoning is coming. They are losing their corporate tax base and the revenues that come with large amounts of office workers. Crime is chasing away residents who can afford to leave. Sooner or later you end up with a crime ridden city in dire straights that nobody wants to live in unless they have no choice.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:40 PM (OjHyA)

The DC mayor has been shrieking about getting workers back into the offices. I say that the GOP would be smart to push for remote work wherever possible for fedgov workers. Pit middle class blue voters against the blue local governments.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (wmDcS)

281 SoCal has lost two deputies in the last 30 days to perps who *should have* been behind bars.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (GffXF)

282 You guys would never do this right?
Man dressed as 7ft penis is arrested for harassing women
https://mol.im/a/11781259

You sure it wasn't just Lebron James?

Posted by: polynikes at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (h1KC2)

283 Quality of life counts. And there isn't any in the blue hives.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (t0OGg)
_________________

I dunno, I have great QoL in Manhattan. I could easily live elsewhere, and in fact have a house nearby in suburban NJ, but chose to live here. There are millions more like me. It all depends on what you want. I travel a lot in rural areas. I'm always like "nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live here." I'm sure the reverse is true for rural dwellers coming to NYC.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (iFTx/)

284 > Yay Tennessee. Now go after the surgeons who slice and dice these minors.

It looks like it also gives the minor a full 30 years after his or her 18th birthday to sue the surgeon.

That's gonna jack up the malpractice insurance rates a little bit, I'll bet.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (bW8dp)

285 I'm sitting here trying to remember the last time I was in Seattle. Or for that matter anywhere in King County except for driving through. I think it was a Mariners game in 2017. I've no intention of going back.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (anj39)

Driving my sister's car out to her in the ... late 00s? The drive was wonderful. Glacier National Park. Montana and Wyoming. East Washington is so starkly different to what you see when you cross the mountains. Seattle was not so good. Hated the traffic and the way they had the highways laid out.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (zZu0s)

286 You guys would never do this right?
Man dressed as 7ft penis is arrested for harassing women

What do you think Ace does all morning before he posts at the crack of 12:30?

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 12:56 PM (ZGrMX)

287 It's a shame that there isn't an avenue for victims of city/state employees like this AG to not only seek restitution from them but also their deep pocketed donors who made it possible for them to be "elected" in the first place. I don't think it's unheard of to go after the "money men" when the shit hits the fan.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 23, 2023 12:56 PM (Q4IgG)

288 283 Quality of life counts. And there isn't any in the blue hives.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (t0OGg)
_________________

I dunno, I have great QoL in Manhattan. I could easily live elsewhere, and in fact have a house nearby in suburban NJ, but chose to live here. There are millions more like me. It all depends on what you want. I travel a lot in rural areas. I'm always like "nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live here." I'm sure the reverse is true for rural dwellers coming to NYC.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (iFTx/)

Sure cities are largely divided into nice areas and bad areas. But sometimes, like in Buckhead for Atlanta, the bad areas move into the nice areas and cause trouble.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:56 PM (eYoxG)

289 You guys would never do this right?
Man dressed as 7ft penis is arrested for harassing women
https://mol.im/a/11781259
Where's our Secretary of Transportation, he'd love it and would milk the occasion for all it's worth ...
Posted by: Ciampino - What a prick at February 23, 2023 12:54 PM (qfLjt)

The actual charge was false advertising. He was telling the ladies it was really 8 feet.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 12:56 PM (anj39)

290 >>>Carpenter filmed Escape from NY in East St. Louis.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death

Think it was after a large fire, which made it all the better.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2023 12:56 PM (bkUtD)

291 What can the state do that will actually change the situation on the ground? If we're talking a DeSantis level cleaning of voting mechanisms in St. Louis, then I'd say there might be hope.

However, that's not what's being talked about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:53 PM (LvTSG)

It won't happen under Parson, who's got too much of the RINO in him. If Hawley or Schmitt were to come back and run for governor, though (hell, Bailey might do the same), I could see either of them pulling a DeSantis. Point is, there are things that can be done, rather than just let STL be a millstone around the rest of the state's necks.

Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (bhRsz)

292 HA HA HA!

‘Warning signal’: Calif. legal cannabis sales see unprecedented drop

Hirsh Jain, a cannabis consultant at Ananda Strategy and the vice chair of the California Cannabis Chamber of Commerce, said in an email to SFGATE that the drop in sales is “a warning signal” that “the state's legal market is on the brink of collapse.”

https://tinyurl.com/38425yab

Posted by: The Media! at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (2tUFv)

293 282 You guys would never do this right?
Man dressed as 7ft penis is arrested for harassing women
https://mol.im/a/11781259

You sure it wasn't just Lebron James?
Posted by: polynikes at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (h1KC2)
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Shitty costume. Must try harder.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (iFTx/)

294 Talk about being the butt of jokes:

https://tinyurl.com/592d4eth

Posted by: SMH at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (UZzwM)

295 Old and busted: East Saint Louis Toddle-Oo

New and cool: East Saint Louis'll Do You

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (FVME7)

296 a Visitor to St. Louis Losing Her Legs

Take that Michelle.

Posted by: Inspector Krogh at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (v0R5T)

297 Iirc the core thesis of Obamacare's "savings" was that hospitals and such were overcharging people, and so by requiring the hiring of a large bureaucracy (of women, imagine that) to do paperwork and cost/service tracking, costs would come down.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (eYoxG)

Stated. Never believed by anyone behind the idea.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (s6isk)

298 I dunno, I have great QoL in Manhattan. I could easily live elsewhere, and in fact have a house nearby in suburban NJ, but chose to live here. There are millions more like me. It all depends on what you want. I travel a lot in rural areas. I'm always like "nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live here." I'm sure the reverse is true for rural dwellers coming to NYC.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (iFTx/)
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Different strokes and all that, yeah. Always.

I'm not even rural. I'm in a small city near a bigger city. Life is better here than I have experienced in really big cities. I prefer it. If the blue gives can control their crime, it will probably result in a major preference shift back to where it was. A lot of people like the city and will put up with the dirt and the noise and the taxes and the other costs of everything, but adding in out-of-control crime will make people with options reconsider, even if they're otherwise down with it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (t0OGg)

299 I had a brother who worked for a big outfit. In order to advance, at some point in your career, you either had to move to Chicago or New York.
He commuted an hour each way to Chicago. Lived there 5 years.
When he moved to a burb near here, his mortgage and insurance combined for his (new) house was less than his property taxes and hour outside Chicago.
It ain't just the quality of life, the cost of life is less outside the blue hell-holes.

Posted by: MkY at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (Io4D1)

300 291 It won't happen under Parson, who's got too much of the RINO in him. If Hawley or Schmitt were to come back and run for governor, though (hell, Bailey might do the same), I could see either of them pulling a DeSantis. Point is, there are things that can be done, rather than just let STL be a millstone around the rest of the state's necks.
Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (bhRsz)

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Instead, we're getting what will amount to failure theater. At best, Gardner is removed and someone just as bad takes her place. At worst, this effort fails and Gardner is a hero to the left and runs for governor and has a shot of winning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (LvTSG)

301 Currently 74 degrees here in the DMV. Cannot justify staying indoors any longer. Going to put on a swimsuit and frolic.
have a good day all.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (Y+l9t)

302 I guess as a city becomes unlivable, folks stop living there.
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Creating the need for Open Borders. Rent seekers always seek rent.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (Hudry)

303 Gee, out free, driving without a license, while he was supposed to be home. If he an ounce of sense he would be just a tad bit careful? Nah ...

Posted by: illiniwek

Career criminals are stupid. They should be the best drivers on the road.

Posted by: Cheri at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (oiNtH)

304 292 HA HA HA!

‘Warning signal’: Calif. legal cannabis sales see unprecedented drop

Hirsh Jain, a cannabis consultant at Ananda Strategy and the vice chair of the California Cannabis Chamber of Commerce, said in an email to SFGATE that the drop in sales is “a warning signal” that “the state's legal market is on the brink of collapse.”

https://tinyurl.com/38425yab
Posted by: The Media! at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (2tUFv)

Well, drugs have never been sold by the state. Wouldn't that make everything without precedent? They had no idea what the fuck would happen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (zZu0s)

305 I saw Seven Foot Penis open for They Might Be Giants at the New York State Pavilion back in '86.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (bW8dp)

306 Drove through East St. Louis a few years back- notorious in the 90s as the murder capital of the US, it seemed a ghost town. Of course, so's Detroit now too. I guess as a city becomes unlivable, folks stop living there.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 23, 2023 12:54 PM (jVuPw)

National Lapoon's Vacation was 1983. Honky.

Posted by: polynikes at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (h1KC2)

307 Talk about being the butt of jokes:

https://tinyurl.com/592d4eth
Posted by: SMH

Who's the turd?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (FVME7)

308 The biggest population of new students in our local schools are people from NYC who could afford to leave.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (OjHyA)

309 297 Iirc the core thesis of Obamacare's "savings" was that hospitals and such were overcharging people, and so by requiring the hiring of a large bureaucracy (of women, imagine that) to do paperwork and cost/service tracking, costs would come down.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:51 PM (eYoxG)

Stated. Never believed by anyone behind the idea.
Posted by: ... at February 23, 2023 12:57 PM (s6isk)

Well duh, it was actually largely written by insurance companies.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (eYoxG)

310 'A leg for a leg.' Bring in the prisoner.'
- plugs in sawzall

Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2023 12:59 PM (z3WCn)

311 But sometimes, like in Buckhead for Atlanta, the bad areas move into the nice areas and cause trouble.

And the nice areas in a city are treated as a fatted calf to subsidize the poor areas.

Portland now has two taxes that only kick in if you make more than $150,000/yr.

Posted by: The Media! at February 23, 2023 12:59 PM (2tUFv)

312 I see Nikki "The Chin" Haley's numbers are down after her glorious presidential rollout extravaganza. LOL

Question: What could Nikki's freakishly large and protruding chin be used for?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 12:59 PM (D25PY)

313 Who's the turd?
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Zelinsky, it looks like.

Posted by: SMH at February 23, 2023 12:59 PM (UZzwM)

314 If the Governor and legislature had any common sense they'd break up St. Louis as a city disincorporating portions as it makes sense geographically into other entities (towns/county level government) to help dilute the political power of the city which was likely established back when it had four times the population and wasn't a flaming dumpster fire.
Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at February 23, 2023 12:28 PM (AyznQ)

Cities are creatures of the State. Let the State government revoke the city's charter, and institute martial law. If the city politicians and officials ignore their orders to stand down, declare the city to be in a state of insurrection, round them up and kill them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2023 01:00 PM (tkR6S)

315 Question: What could Nikki's freakishly large and protruding chin be used for?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 12:59 PM (D25PY)

Ball-rest.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 23, 2023 01:00 PM (wmDcS)

316 Pete the Professional Gay Guy speaking today in Ohio:

"..er..I lost my train of thought..."

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 01:00 PM (wb1YC)

317 Driving my sister's car out to her in the ... late 00s? The drive was wonderful. Glacier National Park. Montana and Wyoming. East Washington is so starkly different to what you see when you cross the mountains. Seattle was not so good. Hated the traffic and the way they had the highways laid out.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:55 PM (zZu0s)

Yeah, the traffic situation is doomed by geography. Lake Washington on one side and the Sound on the other really limits what they can do. Add the corruption and they will never escape it.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2023 01:00 PM (anj39)

318 Is it possible in Missouri for the state to revoke a city's charter or whatever?

Because it sounds like that's what needs to be done.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 12:53 PM (bW8dp)

There's some vagueness on that. However, remember that St. Louis itself is an independent city, a status given to it by the state legislature. What they gave, presumably they can also take away.

Posted by: Dr. T (Google It!) at February 23, 2023 01:00 PM (bhRsz)

319 Daniel Riley looks oddly familiar.
Hmm. Just can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe he is an aspiring rapper or something.

Posted by: wth at February 23, 2023 01:00 PM (v0R5T)

320 I travel a lot in rural areas. I'm always like "nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live here." I'm sure the reverse is true for rural dwellers coming to NYC.
Posted by: Elric Blade

I've lived in both. Rural vs city. Rural wins hands down.

There's a reason I drive 81 miles one way to work each day.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 01:00 PM (Ktdcc)

321 ‘Warning signal’: Calif. legal cannabis sales see unprecedented drop

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Still would like some legal scholar to explain how states are allowed to violate an international treaty that was ratified by the Senate.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2023 01:00 PM (Y5qcH)

322 BTW, is this Daniel Riley also a person of vibrant diversity? I can't find any pictures or descriptions of him, so I'm certainly assuming.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 01:01 PM (ZGrMX)

323 Yeah, the traffic situation is doomed by geography. Lake Washington on one side and the Sound on the other really limits what they can do. Add the corruption and they will never escape it.

Monorail!

Posted by: The Media! at February 23, 2023 01:01 PM (2tUFv)

324 We are reliving the 1970's by our own choice and we deserve what we get in spades.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 23, 2023 01:01 PM (MFZ8i)

325 >>‘Warning signal’: Calif. legal cannabis sales see unprecedented drop

Did dope lobbyist Boehner cry ?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 01:01 PM (D25PY)

326 The core premise of Obamacare was, and always will be, "Fuck you pay me".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 23, 2023 01:01 PM (9UlRk)

327 322 BTW, is this Daniel Riley also a person of vibrant diversity? I can't find any pictures or descriptions of him, so I'm certainly assuming.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 01:01 PM (ZGrMX)
_____________

See my comment above: he's light-skinned black.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 01:01 PM (iFTx/)

328 Liberalism really IS a mental disease. March every one of these cretin bastards to the curb, cap them, and let the rains and the dogs take away what's left.

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & BootyJizz sycophants at February 23, 2023 01:02 PM (5DfsO)

329 Monorail!

Seattle has one

Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2023 01:02 PM (lc5cP)

330 When I was home visiting family in St. Louis, Grady moved in with Lamont to coordinate the junkyard in my absence. He did a good job.

Posted by: Fred G. Sanford. at February 23, 2023 01:02 PM (wrJpE)

331 324 We are reliving the 1970's by our own choice and we deserve what we get in spades.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 23, 2023 01:01 PM (MFZ8i)

BetaCuck4Lyfe is right!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 01:02 PM (zZu0s)

332 Well, drugs have never been sold by the state. Wouldn't that make everything without precedent? They had no idea what the fuck would happen.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (zZu0s)
++++
California made a crucial error when legalizing weed: they made it too expensive. If taxes are high enough, the black market comes roaring back (or never goes away). I experienced this is NY with cigarettes. The taxes were so high that bootlegging became a reasonable choice. Most of NY is pretty close to another state or an Indian reservation.

When I was in college, a buddy of mine would take orders and go buy cartons on the reservation once a month, come back and sell them to other students out of his dorm room. He made a tidy profit and the smokers all saved a bundle. That means his profit, his cost of doing business (fuel, etc.) and the reservation store's profit were all radically lower than the tax burden.

Taxes as high as a lot of states charge on pot make a black market very appealing and it is even easier because the *entire* market was black not too long ago. The market infrastructure is still there.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 01:02 PM (t0OGg)

333 I hear that Pete Buttigieg has arrived in Ohio. It seems his press secretary doesn't talk to the press.
'I believe "a press secretary that doesn't talk to the press" is the definition of a useless person. It's right there next to Kamala Harris.
Seriously, you have to ask why they wasted the airfare to have this "poor excuse for a federal employee" even show up.

I mean ... are there really any non-equity hires in the Biden Administration ?

Pete Buttigieg's dreams of being President of the United States are toast.
That dream is not "pining for the fjords"? It "is no more", "has ceased to be", "bereft of life, it "rests in peace".
Pete may have "beautiful plumage' but he "is an ex-parrot".

Posted by: SMOD at February 23, 2023 01:03 PM (RHGPo)

334 There'll be plenty of vacant land after Mount Rainier does a Mount St. Helens one of these days.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:03 PM (bW8dp)

335 It's harder to genocide an armed population

Muslim Ottoman empire enacted gun control in March... In April the genocide of Christian Armenians began.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 23, 2023 01:03 PM (GffXF)

336 Warning signal’: Calif. legal cannabis sales see unprecedented drop

***

"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara, within 5 years they would be out of sand."

- Milton Friedman

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 01:03 PM (wb1YC)

337 I lived in NYC and progressively moved further north up the Hudson. Night and day.

Posted by: polynikes at February 23, 2023 01:03 PM (h1KC2)

338 'Grow up and be a professional': Ohio pizzeria sparks furious debate after posting job ad that calls only for 'non-STUPID people' - so, do YOU think it's offensive... or funny?
https://mol.im/a/11781959

Offensive to whom? Are you stupid? If yes then you are also too stupid to understand this so no offense. If you are not stupid then we are not talking about you. If you still take offense then you are a cretin.

Posted by: Ciampino - cretin - idiot - moron at February 23, 2023 01:03 PM (qfLjt)

339 Maybe he is an aspiring rapper or something.
________

Just trying to turn his life around.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2023 01:03 PM (lf83v)

340 Well, drugs have never been sold by the state. Wouldn't that make everything without precedent? They had no idea what the fuck would happen.

Real state drug sales have never been tried!

Posted by: Californians Soon and Coloradons Later at February 23, 2023 01:04 PM (KFhLj)

341 FJB & the spare = drama.

The story of St. Joseph's on the Brandywine fits FJB's political narrative & 'ashes are not a sacrament and do not signify communion of faith beyond a need for repentance and a remembrance of mortality.'

Posted by: Lola at February 23, 2023 01:04 PM (Wxlzw)

342 Just watch it!

Be advised: Thinking ‘Latinx’ is stupid and/or pointless and/or insulting ‘is a transphobic act’

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 01:04 PM (FVME7)

343 I know its California, but how bad to you have to fuck up legalized marijuana sales to make the industry unprofitable?

Posted by: mr tmz at February 23, 2023 01:04 PM (rJ48h)

344 But she's St. Louis’ First Black Female top prosecutor.

Equity!
Posted by: redridinghood

I'd give an arm and a leg for equity!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation

I'll give you the number for my carpenter.

Posted by: Inspector Krogh at February 23, 2023 01:04 PM (v0R5T)

345 Why would she resign? All Democrat public figures know they can just ride it out, Northam-style.

Posted by: Halfhand at February 23, 2023 01:04 PM (vJSFc)

346 Pete Buttigieg's dreams of being President of the United States are toast.

..

Not if he wins the Democrat primary.

Posted by: I guess I'll tell them at February 23, 2023 01:04 PM (NGGa8)

347 Ace: "Here's an idea: Drive them all out of the city."

And then run over their limbs on the return trip. Let them crawl for relief. Because that would be fair for such repeated, malicious dereliction.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at February 23, 2023 01:05 PM (aXxgO)

348 I experienced this is NY with cigarettes.

Something like 70% of the cigarettes in NYC are smuggled in.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 23, 2023 01:05 PM (2tUFv)

349 308 The biggest population of new students in our local schools are people from NYC who could afford to leave.
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My HS in NC was 1/3 Yankees from White Plains, NY. This was 1971, just two years into the Yankee Exodus.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 01:05 PM (Hudry)

350 >>334 There'll be plenty of vacant land after Mount Rainier does a Mount St. Helens one of these days.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

The Mega Lahar. Embrace it King/Pierce counties.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 01:05 PM (D25PY)

351 So which is worse - St. Louis or East St. Louis?

Yes.

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2023 01:05 PM (gmo/4)

352 Warning signal’: Calif. legal cannabis sales see unprecedented drop

Year 1: Robust sales of marijuana. Buyers get seeds in their bag o' dope. Buyers plan their own dope.

Year 2: Buyers don't need to go to the cannabis store anymore.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2023 01:05 PM (lf83v)

353 Pete may have "beautiful plumage' but he "is an ex-parrot".

Hey, don't blame us.

Posted by: Parrots Union International at February 23, 2023 01:05 PM (GffXF)

354 Elsewhere in clown world, a small fashion designer discovered that one-of-a-kind clothes from luggage she "lost" in 2018 has turned up being worn by Sam Brinton.

https://tinyurl.com/3zn4wxzm
Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 12:31 PM (X4R3E)

Looking at her picture, I would not call her small. She looks tall and quite elegant. Her designer business might be small though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2023 01:05 PM (tkR6S)

355 Buttguy in East Palestine.

RNC Research@RNCResearch
"I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT"

https://bit.ly/3XRG5Eh

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 01:06 PM (FVME7)

356 On our travels around the country, my wife and I try to avoid the bigger cities as much as possible. When we do drive thru one, we make sure we have plenty of gas and everything we need to never have to stop. We've been doing that for a while now.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at February 23, 2023 01:06 PM (jIZ5D)

357 The biggest population of new students in our local schools are people from NYC who could afford to leave.

***

"Hold on while we tell you hicks how we did things back home."

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 01:06 PM (wb1YC)

358 doesn't expecting your daughter to keep her legs, when visiting st. louis, come from a place of privilege?

srs tho, these GOP governors across the nation have to be as brutal as these leftist fash asshole DA's are and just start quashing their shit.

"oh you're going after Tom delay? Pardon. Going after trump, pardon."

And yeah, that includes legally harassing the soros DA right back, eh?

Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 23, 2023 01:06 PM (MLrvz)

359 Jerry Garcia marijuana brand pulls out of California amid thriving black market, high taxes
https://tinyurl.com/yc23vzcc

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (MFZ8i)

360 We are reliving the 1970's by our own choice and we deserve what we get in spades.

Except in the 70s the majority of American women were still normal and fun. We are reliving the worst aspects of the 70s by choice, without any of the nice things.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (KFhLj)

361 BTW, is this Daniel Riley also a person of vibrant diversity? I can't find any pictures or descriptions of him, so I'm certainly assuming.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 01:01 PM (ZGrMX)
........

I saw a picture of him. He looks like Karine Jean-Pierre's retarded brother.

Posted by: wth at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (v0R5T)

362 332 Well, drugs have never been sold by the state. Wouldn't that make everything without precedent? They had no idea what the fuck would happen.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 23, 2023 12:58 PM (zZu0s)
++++
California made a crucial error when legalizing weed: they made it too expensive. If taxes are high enough, the black market comes roaring back (or never goes away). I experienced this is NY with cigarettes. The taxes were so high that bootlegging became a reasonable choice. Most of NY is pretty close to another state or an Indian reservation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2

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All true but it's more than that. If CA weed industry is anything like NYC's -- and I'm sure it is -- part of the problem is that even LEGAL weed sellers are selling a lot of their shit off the books. So not only do you have a vast illegal weed industry selling tax-free, you have the legal weed industry doing the same thing.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (iFTx/)

363 > Most of NY is pretty close to another state or an Indian reservation.

There was a case a decade or so ago where bootleggers were supposedly exporting Players (a popular Canadian brand) to an Indian reservation in New York. Canada didn't tax exports at the time (or didn't tax them as much, I forget which), and of course there was no US tax on the rez. Then the Indians would load the smokes into boats and take them across the lake to the other half of the same rez, which was in Canada.

The Canadian government got wise when someone noticed that this rez in New York was somehow allegedly consuming a full 50% of the production of this specifically Canadian brand.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (bW8dp)

364 See my comment above: he's light-skinned black.

Found a picture. Dude has the shittiest dreads I've ever seen, including on white stoners.

Also, he was driving an Audi Q5. Those ain't cheap. Stolen?

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (ZGrMX)

365 Arizona rancher, 73, appears in court in shackles and bulletproof vest as prosecutors claim he 'hunted' migrants with AK-47, lied to cops and is a 'danger' to society while he insists he was trying to protect his land and his wife from drug runners
https://mol.im/a/11780993

This is a disgrace of our judicial system and the cops.

Posted by: Ciampino - undocumented means you don't exist at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (qfLjt)

366 All true but it's more than that. If CA weed industry is anything like NYC's -- and I'm sure it is -- part of the problem is that even LEGAL weed sellers are selling a lot of their shit off the books. So not only do you have a vast illegal weed industry selling tax-free, you have the legal weed industry doing the same thing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (iFTx/)
++++
It wouldn't surprise me in the least. Sell it for a discount and pocket the difference. Cash-only business makes that a lot easier.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (t0OGg)

367 > Looking at her picture, I would not call her small. She looks tall and quite elegant.

That's a really attractive pattern on the cloth.

Definitely looks better on her than it does on Jojo the Dog-Faced Boi.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (bW8dp)

368 Taxes as high as a lot of states charge on pot make a black market very appealing and it is even easier because the *entire* market was black not too long ago. The market infrastructure is still there.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Doesn't hurt that the plant is a weed and literally grows anywhere.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (Ktdcc)

369 The Routinely Unbelievable case, for example, you talked about yesterday - the USAF vet congressional candidate whose military records were leaked. "Nothing will be done". True - but it wouldn't be true if the House GOP made it clear the USAF would take a 25% hit to their appropriation until and unless they deliver a full investigation, names, and consequences for those names.

It's an inscrutable chicken-and-egg paradox as to which is the key problem, a useless preposterous political class (mostly GOP), or a brain-dead unserious electorate that doesn't care or understand. But there's no barrier to results other than inaction.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2023 12:33 PM (OTzUX)

^^I like that you have a proposed solution. But has it EVER been done before? Not that we can trust our squishes to stand firm but have they ever been able to accomplish this? Also, it is entirely possible that the entire budget would be blocked by the totality of the neccessary indictments and investigations. But this definately goes on my fantasy list of how to fix the country.

Posted by: Iris with her selfsame badge of honor at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (NaH5I)

370 Then the Indians would load the smokes into boats and take them across the lake to the other half of the same rez, which was in Canada.
_________

The Mohawk Reservation at Akwesasne.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (lf83v)

371
‘Warning signal’: Calif. legal cannabis sales see unprecedented drop

There's something called 'delta 8' which anyone can make from cheap CBD oil. Cannabis is 'delta 9'. Chemically (no expert) very close. The word is that '8' will fvck you up just as good as '9' without the paranoia. Cheaper than '9' by a long shot.

California is between a rock and a hard place.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (enJYY)

372 This is a disgrace of our judicial system and the cops.
Posted by: Ciampino -

///

might be feds...but otherwise, time for a gop governor to preempt these asshole das

Posted by: sockamster, footage at February 23, 2023 01:09 PM (MLrvz)

373 Woke is a dream for the incompetent. They get to change their job description from measurable results to vapid, vague nonsense about equity or sustainability.

Posted by: Fifty Three Years an Imbecile at February 23, 2023 01:09 PM (BJKQV)

374 There was a case a decade or so ago where bootleggers were supposedly exporting Players (a popular Canadian brand) to an Indian reservation in New York. Canada didn't tax exports at the time (or didn't tax them as much, I forget which), and of course there was no US tax on the rez. Then the Indians would load the smokes into boats and take them across the lake to the other half of the same rez, which was in Canada.

The Canadian government got wise when someone noticed that this rez in New York was somehow allegedly consuming a full 50% of the production of this specifically Canadian brand.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (bW8dp)
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Heh. Good on 'em. Great scam, at least for a while.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 01:09 PM (t0OGg)

375 Looking at her picture, I would not call her small. She looks tall and quite elegant. Her designer business might be small though.

Libs of Tik Tok asked her how to buy her clothes, so her business might pick up.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 23, 2023 01:09 PM (ZGrMX)

376 The Canadian government got wise when someone noticed that this rez in New York was somehow allegedly consuming a full 50% of the production of this specifically Canadian brand.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (bW8dp)

There is a Mohawk reservation split by the St. Lawrence where a lot of the cigarette smuggling occurs.

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2023 01:09 PM (gmo/4)

377 Buttguy in East Palestine.
........

Anybody throw a rotten tomato at him yet?

Posted by: wth at February 23, 2023 01:09 PM (v0R5T)

378 St. Louis has been cess pool a very long time. I've watched the decline up close and from across the Missouri River.

St. Louisans will replace Gardner with someone worse, or equally evil. They deserve it.

Also, stop sending your children to major cities where you know crime is rampant and society is unraveling. If your daughter's only opportunities in life depend upon her body, maybe suggest something less dangerous than sports, like prostitution.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 23, 2023 01:10 PM (Qhj0i)

379 > "is an ex-parrot".

I think those are called "capons" when it's a bird.

Though maybe it's "trans-hen" nowadays.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:10 PM (bW8dp)

380 Angela Davis finds out that her white ancestors came over on the Mayflower.

https://bit.ly/3YVwy0r

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation

So she pretty much enslaved herself, and thus owes herself millions in reparations. Noice.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2023 01:10 PM (LRmyo)

381 >>>Anybody throw a rotten tomato at him yet?
Posted by: wth

A day after Trump arrived. It only took Petey three weeks to show up.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 23, 2023 01:10 PM (bkUtD)

382 I recall the federal government taking over a house of prostitution in Nevada. In very little time they manage to lose money, selling booze and pussy.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 23, 2023 01:10 PM (N8cHz)

383 Did California honestly expect to have a reliable economy from doing business with stoners?

LMAO.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2023 01:10 PM (lf83v)

384 Isn't walking around in St. Louis a suicidal act anyway?

It is extremely segregated. You can literally go one block and transition from relatively safe to your life is in imminent danger.
==
Its super weird. There are separate courts for the City of St. Louis and St. Louis County. Basically they legally segregated the city and its inhabitants from the swells who reside in the county. That said there are extensive millionaire's row type neighborhoods in the city. Walled off and gates etc etc.

I tried a couple of cases in the city. On one jury panel, every single prospective juror had at least one misdemeanor arrest in the prior two years. One of the reasons segregation is so awful, is you are basically creating Haiti at home in certain districts. Look at any large US city run by dems and you will find haiti neighborhoods.

Posted by: If you don't have justice for all, you don't have justice at all at February 23, 2023 01:11 PM (XsQ+Q)

385 Anybody throw a rotten tomato at him yet?

***

He's hard to hit. He's only three apples tall.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 01:11 PM (wb1YC)

386 The Canadian government got wise when someone noticed that this rez in New York was somehow allegedly consuming a full 50% of the production of this specifically Canadian brand.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (bW8dp)

There is a Mohawk reservation split by the St. Lawrence where a lot of the cigarette smuggling occurs.
Posted by: Archer

Stay ungovernable.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2023 01:12 PM (Ktdcc)

387 Angela Davis finds out that her white ancestors came over on the Mayflower.
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Now she gotta boycott herself.

Posted by: Angry Black Woman at February 23, 2023 01:12 PM (lf83v)

388 Supreme Court rules 9-0 that bankruptcy filers can't avoid debt incurred by another's fraud.

https://is.gd/b5YgjA

Posted by: Ciampino - well that clears that up at February 23, 2023 01:13 PM (qfLjt)

389 366 All true but it's more than that. If CA weed industry is anything like NYC's -- and I'm sure it is -- part of the problem is that even LEGAL weed sellers are selling a lot of their shit off the books. So not only do you have a vast illegal weed industry selling tax-free, you have the legal weed industry doing the same thing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 01:07 PM (iFTx/)
++++
It wouldn't surprise me in the least. Sell it for a discount and pocket the difference. Cash-only business makes that a lot easier.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (t0OGg)
_______________

Yea. And at least in NYC, the legal weed business is VERY shady. Almost all the owners are really sketchy and basically glorified drug dealers and smugglers. They operate glorified illegal drug operations, from smuggling in bootleg weed from CA, to hiring only off-the-books employees, to tax fraud, to shady business practices, etc. It's "legal" only in name.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 01:13 PM (iFTx/)

390 Did California honestly expect to have a reliable economy from doing business with stoners?

LMAO.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2023 01:10 PM (lf83v)
.........

Shoulda stuck with the cartel pros. More dependable.

Posted by: wth at February 23, 2023 01:13 PM (v0R5T)

391 Rachel Vindman 🌻@natsechobbyist
I’m moving to a red state in a few days. Not only am I going to vote, I’m going to organize and mobilize others to vote.

-
Bearclaw today! Bearclaw tomorrow! Bearclaw forever!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 01:13 PM (FVME7)

392 Maybe she should run for Mayor of Chicago?

Posted by: Inogame, Si vi pacium para bellum at February 23, 2023 01:13 PM (53oGX)

393 2 She won by 50 points in 2020 after she let the mob go and persecuted the people trying to defend their own homes with inactive firearms.

If Gardner goes, someone just like her takes her place.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 12:13 PM (LvTSG)

Yeah this. Saw a back and forth between Jesse Kelly and Liz Wheeler about national divorce. Wheeler has a position that national divorce is loser mentality and we can't just surrender territory to the Marxists.

But we aren't going to be taking back St Louis under any circumstances. Is that a loser mentality? I mean we are losing there and will never win.

Posted by: blaster at February 23, 2023 01:14 PM (pwExq)

394 Did California honestly expect to have a reliable economy from doing business with stoners?

LMAO.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Ahh, the Cheech and Chong gambit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 01:14 PM (FVME7)

395 391 Rachel Vindman 🌻@natsechobbyist
I’m moving to a red state in a few days. Not only am I going to vote, I’m going to organize and mobilize others to vote.

-
Bearclaw today! Bearclaw tomorrow! Bearclaw forever!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 01:13 PM (FVME7)
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That stupid cunt couldn't "mobilize" a big dump on the crapper

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 01:14 PM (iFTx/)

396 Don't worry about the Tranny on the team, honey. She'll just be beating her meat while she watches you shower. Worry more for the girls on the other team who get in the way when they/them are moving full spped.

And did you hear? Nationals are in downtown Atlanta this year. We get to ride the BART from the hotel each day. The organizers say it's really safe. They won't be riding it, of course, but don't make trouble forvthe houligans, and they won't bother you...

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 23, 2023 01:14 PM (Qhj0i)

397 I recall the federal government taking over a house of prostitution in Nevada. In very little time they manage to lose money, selling booze and pussy.

Posted by: gourmand du jour

"You couldn't sell pussy on a troop train!!"

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2023 01:15 PM (LRmyo)

398 Angela Davis did what she did due to her white guilt. If you don't believe it, you are a racist.

Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2023 01:15 PM (AMIL/)

399 Rachel Vindman 🌻@natsechobbyist
I’m moving to a red state in a few days. Not only am I going to vote, I’m going to organize and mobilize others to vote.
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Bearclaw today! Bearclaw tomorrow! Bearclaw forever!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 01:13 PM (FVME7)
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Fuckin' colonists.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 23, 2023 01:15 PM (t0OGg)

400 Shoulda stuck with the cartel pros. More dependable.

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When was the last they ever ran a deficit?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2023 01:15 PM (lf83v)

401 312 I see Nikki "The Chin" Haley's numbers are down after her glorious presidential rollout extravaganza. LOL
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Gee I wonder if the persuasion imagery of "past her prime" which went highly viral actually worked. It would seem so.

But... outrage!!! CNN is really upset. So is poppy Harlow!!! Always believe the Left when they tell you stuff!!!

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2023 01:15 PM (X7yCa)

402 393 But we aren't going to be taking back St Louis under any circumstances. Is that a loser mentality? I mean we are losing there and will never win.
Posted by: blaster at February 23, 2023 01:14 PM (pwExq)

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I think Missouri could take St. Louis back.

I do not thing the current governor of Missouri wants to try.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 01:15 PM (LvTSG)

403 > Supreme Court rules 9-0 that bankruptcy filers can't avoid debt incurred by another's fraud.

Specifically, a partner's fraud, not just any random person.

Non-limited partners being responsible for the debts of other partners has a long, long history.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:15 PM (bW8dp)

404 Remove from office? Sure, but you also need to get a rope.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 23, 2023 01:16 PM (YwyqV)

405 The first fix to all this is to outlaw Qualified Immunity.

Posted by: redchief at February 23, 2023 01:16 PM (MjF+l)

406 SMH is correct.

East St. Louis is a city in St. Clair County, Illinois. It is directly across the Mississippi River from Downtown St. Louis, Missouri and the Gateway Arch National Park.

Posted by: If you don't have justice for all, you don't have justice at all at February 23, 2023 01:16 PM (p94HS)

407 > I recall the federal government taking over a house of prostitution in Nevada. In very little time they manage to lose money, selling booze and pussy.

"If the federal government took over the Sahara Desert, in six months there'd be a shortage of sand."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:16 PM (bW8dp)

408 I do not thing the current governor of Missouri wants to try.
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The old story - don't wrestle a pig.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 23, 2023 01:16 PM (Hudry)

409 Yeah this. Saw a back and forth between Jesse Kelly and Liz Wheeler about national divorce. Wheeler has a position that national divorce is loser mentality and we can't just surrender territory to the Marxists.

But we aren't going to be taking back St Louis under any circumstances. Is that a loser mentality? I mean we are losing there and will never win.
Posted by: blaster at February 23, 2023 01:14 PM (pwExq)

The Republic died the day Voting became a Universal Franchise... something the Founders warned us about.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2023 01:17 PM (oHd/0)

410 EXPLOSIVE NEW VIDEO of Rosanne Boyland Shows Police Attempting to Revive Her in Trash-Filled Hall, Say She Was “Trampled” – Then Later They Lied and Said She Died of Overdose

Gateway Pundit.

These are the shock troops that McCarthy gave awards to.
Disgusting.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 23, 2023 01:17 PM (D25PY)

411 Doubt the Illinois AG would actually follow through, but: Now do Cook County's Kim Foxx.

Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Ray Epps is a Fed and Ashli Bennett is Crispus Attucks at February 23, 2023 01:17 PM (GDvV9)

412 I thought this racist POS was already removed...

Posted by: It's me donna at February 23, 2023 01:17 PM (bs+z0)

413 Rachel Vindman 🌻@natsechobbyist
I’m moving to a red state in a few days. Not only am I going to vote, I’m going to organize and mobilize others to vote.

***

Have another vat of wine, Rachel.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 01:17 PM (wb1YC)

414 > "You couldn't sell pussy on a troop train!!"

"Leadership? You couldn't lead three drunk sailors into a whorehouse!"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 23, 2023 01:17 PM (bW8dp)

415 Angel Davis is going to burn her own house down tonight.

And then whip herself.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2023 01:18 PM (lf83v)

416 The only way to take a city back anymore is the way Sherman did Atlanta.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at February 23, 2023 01:18 PM (oWBc3)

417 405 The first fix to all this is to outlaw Qualified Immunity.
Posted by: redchief at February 23, 2023 01:16 PM (MjF+l)

Bigger... the idea of Sovereign Immunity is not in the Constitution itself... and the Government itself being above the law? Pretty much says you are NOT a Republic.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2023 01:18 PM (oHd/0)

418 415 Angel Davis is going to burn her own house down tonight.

And then whip herself.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2023 01:18 PM (lf83v)

Don't forget the lynching

Posted by: It's me donna at February 23, 2023 01:18 PM (bs+z0)

419 The Church of What's Happening Now.

"God is gay, God is a lesbian, God is trans, God is gender non-binary ... God is you, and you are God."

https://bit.ly/3IOvnKF

Say what you will about his theology, he concisely defines equity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 23, 2023 01:19 PM (FVME7)

420 Nood Democrats taking personal files.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 23, 2023 01:19 PM (eYoxG)

421 watched a video on a Portland Business that's 100 years old finally decided to leave Portland because the City is letting a Homeless encampment stay next to the Business, Customers and Workers are afraid to go their.

Why are cities now imbracing homeless encampments now, I don't understand that.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 23, 2023 01:20 PM (qvBE6)

422 I do not thing the current governor of Missouri wants to try.

Would you? I wouldn't. You'd basically be talking about the equivalent of a Reconstruction-style government ruling a city predominantly made up of scum against their wishes. In free societies, that's a losing proposition. You'd need tyrant-like authority to civilize St. Louis.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 23, 2023 01:20 PM (KFhLj)

423 Nood

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 23, 2023 01:20 PM (EZaTx)

424 I'm sure the black market and the high state taxes have hurt legal pot sales, but honestly, I think there just isn't that much demand, at least by people who have jobs (and thus, money).

I have no problem with legalization, but I think most reasonably intelligent people outgrow their pot obsession after they leave college. It's not much of a growth industry.

Posted by: Wally at February 23, 2023 01:20 PM (FJYfm)

425 422 I do not thing the current governor of Missouri wants to try.

Would you? I wouldn't. You'd basically be talking about the equivalent of a Reconstruction-style government ruling a city predominantly made up of scum against their wishes. In free societies, that's a losing proposition. You'd need tyrant-like authority to civilize St. Louis.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 23, 2023 01:20 PM (KFhLj)

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The barest of things to do first is to take St. Louis' ability to govern its own elections.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, mired in filth and awfulness with Ralph Bakshi at February 23, 2023 01:21 PM (LvTSG)

426 413 Rachel Vindman 🌻@natsechobbyist
I’m moving to a red state in a few days. Not only am I going to vote, I’m going to organize and mobilize others to vote.

***

Have another vat of wine, Rachel.
Posted by: Azathoth at February 23, 2023 01:17 PM (wb1YC)
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She can't mobilize her fat husband to stop stuffing his fat face with pork rinds or to get off his fat ass and get to the gym. Good luck mobilizing voters, bitch.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 23, 2023 01:21 PM (iFTx/)

427 Yeah this. Saw a back and forth between Jesse Kelly and Liz Wheeler about national divorce. Wheeler has a position that national divorce is loser mentality and we can't just surrender territory to the Marxists.

Posted by: blaster at February 23, 2023 01:14 PM (pwExq)

I've been pondering this. How about a national divorce, and as blue areas collapse under their own mismanagement, we swoop in and conquer them? Then we get our surrendered territory back.

Posted by: Emmie at February 23, 2023 01:21 PM (Emce2)

428 Seriously if Nikki's numbers really are down (and who knows anymore), it only cements my theory that Don Lemon was acting on behalf of the DNC with incredibly viral marketing language designed to kill her candidacy in the crib.

As they say "it worked, didn't it?"

Ask yuprself what is different on CNN mornings now?? Oh yeah he went to a day of "training" and poppy is really so upset she's gonna work with him but promises she won't enjoy it.

Posted by: ... at February 23, 2023 01:21 PM (X7yCa)

429 > I saw a picture of him. He looks like Karine Jean-Pierre's retarded brother.

Here's a picture of the shitbag in question.

https://bit.ly/3YUaJyc

Posted by: bonhomme at February 23, 2023 01:21 PM (eyxn4)

430 and you are God.

Yeah. That's not how it works at all.

That's the original sin.

Posted by: blaster at February 23, 2023 01:22 PM (pwExq)

431 Saw a back and forth between Jesse Kelly and Liz Wheeler about national divorce. Wheeler has a position that national divorce is loser mentality and we can't just surrender territory to the Marxists.
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What does "divorce" mean in this context. How do you imagine the mechanics occurring? 50% of the country picks up and moves to the other 50% of the country? Who moves and who stays? I don't think you understand, even in places that are red or blue, there is still 30 or 40% of the population that isn't. Also, there sooo much vote cheating going on I don't believe the percentages anyway. And who enforces anything either during the divorce or after? If you don't force people to move, you just have a state by state referendum -- um, do you trust the voting in Georgia? Arizona? A national divorce is just one of the stage of grief. Bargaining. Come to grips with it. The country is dead, its not coming back and you don't get to control what happens next. Nobody does. Its an unsolvable mess and if history teaches us anything it teaches that there is a lot of ruin in a nation but eventually they fall.

Posted by: Now pull up your pants and figure out how to survive at February 23, 2023 01:22 PM (Um+8z)

432 He might be thinking that, but declaring "open season" on (so-called) elected officials might not work out as intended.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 23, 2023 12:50 PM (YIVH2)

A little plausible deniability is required, yes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2023 01:25 PM (tkR6S)

433 370 Then the Indians would load the smokes into boats and take them across the lake to the other half of the same rez, which was in Canada.
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The Mohawk Reservation at Akwesasne.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 23, 2023 01:08 PM (lf83v)
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Players brand is a Brit product also made in other Commonwealth countries such as Canada and South Africa. So surely the smokes were going from Canada to the USA side? I'm confused.

Posted by: Ciampino -- well that clears that up at February 23, 2023 01:25 PM (qfLjt)

434 Just got through thanking God that I live in Oklahoma.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 23, 2023 01:28 PM (BdMk6)

435 @Iris, IIRC the Air Force failed to flag the guy who shot up a church in South Texas so his FBI records check came back clean. I can predict the general ethnic makeup and even the proportion of obesity of the civilian records clerks who "work" for the Air Force.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 23, 2023 01:29 PM (T5tzx)

436 Now revoke immunity for her and the judges involved and make them civilly liable for all the damage they have caused.

Posted by: Rick T at February 23, 2023 01:45 PM (47+qM)

437 I will say something maybe I shouldn't say, but there is a certain demographic that is maybe 7-8% overall of California and, expensive and annoying as it is around here, it's difficult to imagine migrating somewhere where it's much higher.

Sure as hell can't imagine being within 100mi of St Louis.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2023 02:40 PM (8erNz)

438 Sure as hell can't imagine being within 100mi of St Louis.

Last time I went through there by road I needed a few things so stopped at a Walmart. Silly Californian, first time I'd ever seen a separate checkout - with security guard - for the cosmetics.

No, just no. Even with Gavin and his tribe running this place, we don't have that yet, and I expect if I they had that level of shrinkage they'd just close the stores.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2023 02:46 PM (8erNz)

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Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at February 23, 2023 02:57 PM (bVvGt)

440 It's like I always say . . . 57 strikes, and you're out! No exceptions (depending on your place on the progressive demographic totem).

Posted by: Anotheranon at February 23, 2023 03:01 PM (s6Yyc)

441 Let me know when someone like the girl's father decides to introduce Gardener to the situation of being a homicide victim.

Because that's what it's going to take for this to end: Soros DAs becoming crime victims, and then the jruy refusing to convict the family member / victim who returned the favor

Posted by: Greg the Class Traitor at February 23, 2023 03:22 PM (bZ64u)

442 Kim Gardner must be disbarred. If the Left can do that to John Eastman or Rudy Giuliani, then the Right can do it to Soros Prosecutors. All of them.

Posted by: william ferrin at February 23, 2023 03:27 PM (fFVV+)

443 If she is removed she'll (a) litigate the removal and failing that effort (b) rerun and be reelected. Why? Because St. Louis, that's why.

Posted by: Syracuse1989 at February 23, 2023 03:34 PM (yYc0Y)

444 Now maybe the crinimal will be lock up for the rest of their life no parole no plea bargin,s and no offers from Hollywood

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