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There's a Real Environmental Catastrophe Unfolding In Ohio and the Media Is Downplaying It Or Just Not Reporting It for Some Reason
A train derailment last week in Ohio has turned into a full-fledged environmental disaster, and it's received surprisingly little national media coverage. Last Friday, a train belonging to Norfolk Southern, one of America's leading rail operators, derailed near the Pennsylvania border, leaving what the Associated Press called "a mangled and charred mass of boxcars and flames" just outside the village of East Palestine, home to about 5,000 people. The crash created a 50-car pileup--half the train's length. According to Norfolk Southern, a fifth of the cars were carrying hazardous materials. The wreckage proceeded to burn ominously all weekend. By Sunday evening, residents near the train tracks were told to "immediately evacuate" in a sudden alert from the office of Governor Mike DeWine. He went on to warn: "There is now the potential of catastrophic tanker failure which could cause an explosion with the potential of deadly shrapnel traveling up to a mile." Apparently a particular cause for concern were 14 giant tankers that were "exposed to fire" while full of hundreds of thousands of gallons of vinyl chloride. A chemical used in PVC, vinyl chloride is flammable, toxic, and a declared brain, lung, blood, and liver carcinogen. The federal government banned it from household spray cans in 1974. Breathing it "can make you dizzy or sleepy, or have a headache," a fact sheet released two days ago by the Ohio Department of Health alerts readers. "You can die from breathing extremely high levels of vinyl chloride." It also boils at just 8 degrees Fahrenheit--meaning moving it into containers that cleanup crews could cart away probably wasn't a safe option.Instead, the cleanup crew performed a "controlled burn," burning the stuff up. But the byproducts of incineration are also dangerous.
Residents told the local news they "fear[ed] for their lives." One said that even indoors, "You could smell it and taste it, and I had a headache." Meanwhile, the crash site was leaching other hazardous materials besides vinyl chloride. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) says they seeped into surrounding waterways, and "were immediately toxic to fish"--though it added that "actions were taken to minimize that." The agency has assured the public that, the poor aquatic life's fate notwithstanding, everybody's drinking water was "protected."Bullsh!t. So why is the media covering up what would usually be a four-alarm fire of a story? Well, because it's happening on Biden's watch, and because the media knows that this disaster is once again well beyond the capabilities of the Secretary of Transportation, Mayor Butt, to manage. So into the Quiet Pile the story goes.
This Twitter user gives his own report after noting the derailment hasn't gotten much national media attention, and the media reporting it has gotten is "not good."
Best video I’ve found explaining the chemical aspect of the Ohio train disaster
— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) February 13, 2023
Extremely toxic liquid vinyl chloride was leaking so authorities planned a “controlled burn” but that created hydrogen chloride acid that clings to water
Basically acid rainpic.twitter.com/gIsaKqm114
Nothing to see here. Just the toxic cloud from the controlled explosion from the East Palestine train derailment.
— Haley 💙📚 (@hale27storm) February 7, 2023
As of 9pm, the outside smells of chlorine at our house, located about 15 miles N of the site. #EastPalestine #trainderailment pic.twitter.com/paVSV7vsZD
Unbeknownst at the time, I snapped this photo with a dark plume in a sea of stratus clouds from my flight yesterday. Only to learn this morning that the black smoke was caused by a controlled burn from a #trainderailment in #EastPalestine pic.twitter.com/4DCxCZsLG2
— Jared (@Jared_Mc) February 7, 2023
Stuff like this makes me think they're lying:
A NewsNation reporter was arrested during a news conference held by the Ohio governor about a train derailment.
— NewsNation (@NewsNation) February 8, 2023
Watch the video: https://t.co/0SWIs3q2bu #RushHour pic.twitter.com/hdq23is7Zl
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 13, 2023 12:12 PM (uNylN)
Now turn off your AC to prevent carbon from getting into the atmosphere.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (LvTSG)
and yeah, i can think of no reason they wouldn't want to discuss this at all....
Posted by: SturmToddler at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (Mkvkw)
Posted by: sockamster, Doctor at blogothopy at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (MLrvz)
The continued baby formula shortage and oh, The Junta walking us directly into WWIII.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (MDmJR)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (uNylN)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (pwExq)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:14 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 12:15 PM (/EuRN)
https://tinyurl.com/2p8dkxfk
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:15 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 12:15 PM (8Sqzu)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 12:15 PM (/EuRN)
Will work as well as for COVID. Leftists should try it out.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:15 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Ronald at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (anj39)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (8Sqzu)
In fairness, the only thing within the capabilities of Mayor Pete to manage is getting rear-ended in a Prius.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (anj39)
What's today, the 13th? I'd say give it until 2025 or so.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (/EuRN)
Well, we just had the Super Bidet and all those dead Turks and Syrians from last week's quake.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (ynpvh)
Those are Transportation, no?
Where is our Transportation Secretary?
On Vacation?
Chest Feeding?
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (9qmLq)
Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (QbC6G)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 12:16 PM (8Sqzu)
I don't think they have a Super Dome over there.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (ynpvh)
She will run for President in '24 or '28. She could win.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (eOEVl)
#2: Yes
#1: They deserved this to happen to them.
#2: O-kay...
NYT Editorial the next day, "Why Chlorine in the atmosphere will stop global warming"
Posted by: Scott_T at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (2waQ7)
Posted by: Puddihead
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (SbJgO)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (lc5cP)
Those are Transportation, no?
Where is our Transportation Secretary?
On Vacation?
Chest Feeding?
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (9qmLq)
Not that kind of sucking...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (lEVn+)
Well, *your* diet, anyway.
Posted by: Bill Gates at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: XTC at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (8Sqzu)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (QbC6G)
Acid Rain, like the 70's. Goes well with unemployment and stagflation.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (eOEVl)
It would be hilarious if the GOP managed to prevent Trump from being the nominee in '24, only for him to run as a third party with Tulsi and take away about 30% of the vote share.
Posted by: Ronald at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (gmo/4)
Take heart it may be that fact that saves the American experiment in liberty.
The assholes in DC are hellbent on larping as the politburo....
Chernobyl is what killed the USSR, and in a someone shut off the irony moment Armand Hammer helped.
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (Lzpvj)
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They could just blame it on a UFO.
Posted by: ShainS -- Slaves no longer require coercion because they love their servitude at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (D9emQ)
Posted by: This is CNN at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (2Jo7a)
You know who isn't a non-entity? Jerome Bettis that's who, dude is the biggest "little man" I have ever laid eyes on.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (MDmJR)
Arresting Reporters for Reporting: Check
The FNM: This story is boooooooring.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (lc5cP)
Anyone had any dreams about Devil's Tower lately?
Posted by: Just Lily at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (PKlQk)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (flINI)
On Vacation?
Chest Feeding?
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (9qmLq)
Face Deep in another man's shit chute.
Posted by: XTC at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (UnA8+)
That untalented chick from Da Islands who pretended to scream unintelligible words into a microphone and why she was so red and so fat is more important to them.
Get with the program.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (b/HKy)
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (8Sqzu)
NEW YORK?!!
Why didn't you say so?! This is a MAJOR STORY!!!
Posted by: The Corrupt Leftwing Media Junta at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (C1Zwz)
Vinyl Chloride is the monomer that is used to make polyvinyl chloride plastic. You likely have a lot of that in your drain pipes in your house. PVC is used everywhere.
Burning it to make it into HCL is not the worst possible outcome, although this is all dangerously grotesque.
East Palestine is in the northeast corner of Ohio, near the Pennsylvania border. Pittsburgh is the largest city near it, to the southeast.
I get lots of local news coverage of this, but it is strange that it does not get more national coverage.
Strange. But not in Biden world, I guess.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (vcOmj)
There but for the grace of God go I. I've thought about a derailment before, and wondered how bad it would be.
Pretty f*cking bad, apparently.
And yeah, Dewine is a classic Ohio RINO. All we produce are RINOs, corn, soybeans, and black toxic clouds of death.
Posted by: Pastafarian at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (Osaa9)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (jTmQV)
The 2015 Gold King Mine waste water spill was an environmental disaster that began at the Gold King Mine near Silverton, Colorado, when Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) personnel, along with workers for Environmental Restoration LLC (a Missouri company under EPA contract to mitigate pollutants from the closed mine), caused the release of toxic waste water into the Animas River watershed.
In other words, another government-triggered environmental disaster.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (lf83v)
Until you put him next to Sirena Williams.
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (9qmLq)
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (8Sqzu)
Poisoning of the land. For reals this time.
Posted by: Iron Eyes Cody, call me Oscar at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: This is CNN at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (2Jo7a)
Black Cloud? RAACCIIIIIST!!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (ynpvh)
She will run for President in '24 or '28. She could win.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (eOEVl)
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The Democrat Establishment does not like her.
No, she has no chance to become president. They'd throw everything at her to defeat her in a Democrat primary, and they'd cheat her to lose if she won the Republican nomination or ran third party/independent (not that anyone in a third party would have a shot anyway).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (Lzpvj)
The GOPe wants to run someone like Mittens on a platform of "All the Woke stuff the left wants but slower and more completely administered!"
Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (lEVn+)
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Incorrect.
awiens.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (LvTSG)
Anyone had any dreams about Devil's Tower lately?
Posted by: Just Lily at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (PKlQk)
Does DC count?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (flINI)
Whew, crisis averted then.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (N1tpc)
That was a Very Special Episode of The Facts of Life.
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (9qmLq)
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (8Sqzu)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (qnsfO)
Posted by: REDACTED at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: JT at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (dCxaZ)
Actually, that's kind of a good segue from the last thread too.
Hmm...does Ace read the comments of the COB threads? Maybe he's saving us from ourselves....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (lEVn+)
Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (ffbyg)
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (qnsfO)
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A Chinese balloon landed on the tracks.../sarc
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (BpYfr)
Posted by: James T Kirk at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (lc5cP)
Sounds like PA ought to declare war on OH!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (WGDUh)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (jTmQV)
Worked wonders when the Cuyahoga caught fire...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (ynpvh)
God, I hate updating my credit card number on OnlyFans...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:23 PM (lEVn+)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (lf83v)
THAT was the one that I was trying to think of. Have to love unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats with tons of power.
And how many do you think are going to fall on their swords over this nonsense? I would bet the most common statement was 'we had no idea', 'it was bill', 'I am triggered that you think this is my fault', etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:23 PM (zZu0s)
P.S. Willowed in last thread.
Touch of Evil opening tracking shot.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmYY5ZMXOY
Thanks, ShainS, for edumacating me on the proper term.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 13, 2023 12:23 PM (FVME7)
Which is precisely why she could win. After Biden loses in '24, people will be looking for someone who doesn't sound insane.
She could appeal to the center swathes of both parties.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:23 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: The Beastie Boys at February 13, 2023 12:23 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (lEVn+)
According to FOX, the Commander of NORAD has not ruled them out.
This is what passes for rational thinking in the media and the DoD.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2023 12:23 PM (anj39)
Posted by: Beartooth at February 13, 2023 12:23 PM (N52dd)
The GOPe wants to run someone like Mittens on a platform of "All the Woke stuff the left wants but slower and more completely administered!"
Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (lc5cP)
GOP 2024: "We'll rape you slowly and with love"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (+Wcyp)
Posted by: Floridachick at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (5Qj+5)
Posted by: Cosda at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (ldIIj)
tomorrow news item:
reporter shot while "resisting arrest"
Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (dCxaZ)
In the video, she does an excellent job of sticking the knife into Romney and twisting it.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (eOEVl)
>>The GOPe wants to run someone like Mittens on a platform of "All the Woke stuff the left wants but slower and more completely administered!"
Their dream team is Sununu/Hogan, McConnell would literally jism in his britches if they could somehow get those two clowns the nomination.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (MDmJR)
I was greatly amused when Fauci published his "of course the clot shots were never going to work at stopping the spread" paper.
Remember every clot shot mandate was based on it stopping the spread of COVID
Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (bhRsz)
He gets rear-ended a lot
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 12:25 PM (Z4AnZ)
The United Nations just voted to condemn Israel for the derailment and to send $1.2Bn to the East Palestinians to help them fight against the Jewish environmental disaster in their small abode.
/sarc
Posted by: Sharkman at February 13, 2023 12:25 PM (gcK/b)
LOL
Posted by: Jay in PA at February 13, 2023 12:25 PM (i7Q7S)
God, I hate updating my credit card number on OnlyFans...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:23 PM (lEVn+)
The greek dish or gyroscopes?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:25 PM (ynpvh)
And yeah, Dewine is a classic Ohio RINO. All we produce are RINOs, corn, soybeans, and black toxic clouds of death.
Posted by: Pastafarian
No shit. "Iron" Mike Dewine. Or Midget Mike Dewine.
Or...whatever. Considering the alternative, yeah, I held my nose and voted for him.
I saw the deal where the reporter was arrested at his news conference. Yeah, that was pretty funny shit, right there.
And Norfolk Southern; a pack of mean-ass railroad execs running that 3-ring circus. What corners can we cut this week?
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 13, 2023 12:25 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:26 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Rex B at February 13, 2023 12:26 PM (2Jo7a)
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 12:26 PM (8Sqzu)
Posted by: CN at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)
So we blew them up to burn it off and disperse it as widely as possible.
Get your boosters, folks.
Posted by: t-bird at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (e2onP)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:22 PM (lEVn+)
Nothing definitive that I have seen. Occcassionally he will mention something about a discussion we had on a prior thread, but I think that is the COBNET where they are telling him things like: 'Get a load of the heat this gal is packing!' or 'You would not believe what this piece of samsonite said!' or 'They are doing that thing again, ace- and I spent a good couple hours writing that post up and now they are just doing comments relating movie titles with fish/vagina puns!'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Sharkman at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (gcK/b)
I know it’s hard to defend an unpopular policy every once in awhile
Plastic people
Oh baby, how you’re such a drag
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (63Dwl)
LOL
Posted by: Jay in PA
"The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are safe and effective!"
The CDC and the FDA.
Those guys are in the federal government too, aren't they?
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (vcOmj)
LOL
Posted by: Jay in PA at February 13, 2023 12:25 PM (i7Q7S)
Reminds me of a story I was told. My grandmother asked her daughter to watch the roast in the oven while she was out. When she came back, the roast was burning and my Aunt was intently watching...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (ffbyg)
Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (anj39)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (MDmJR)
Posted by: It's happening at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (dheQy)
They are, and you know they are just dying to make it illegal to transport industrial chemicals next.
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (+Wcyp)
The people are uncertain, afraid, not clear about the future and are dreading what's coming.
Buttgig is doing exactly the job he was hired for.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (p+1gI)
___________
Like they did at Ground Zero in New York after September 11th.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Ordinary American at February 13, 2023 12:28 PM (H8QX8)
Arresting Reporters for Reporting: Check
The FNM: This story is boooooooring.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:20 PM (lc5cP)
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"Mr. President, what's your favorite ice cream?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Slaves no longer require coercion because they love their servitude at February 13, 2023 12:28 PM (WvPpP)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 13, 2023 12:28 PM (d2bW3)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 12:28 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: Puddihead at February 13, 2023 12:29 PM (8Sqzu)
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (Lzpvj)
Nationalize the railroads. For the children.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 12:29 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 13, 2023 12:28 PM (d2bW3)
Isn't it right on the border? So Penn now has two Centralias!
We must not allow there to be a Centralia Gap!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:29 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 13, 2023 12:29 PM (Angsy)
I figure if they're competent at their jobs, great; if they're not, then maybe they'll get sick from the fumes and have to take early retirement.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:30 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 13, 2023 12:30 PM (Zqeqr)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (zZu0s)
Not seeing the problem here...
Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2023 12:30 PM (anj39)
Saw a tweet yesterday (maybe, maybe the day before) that a farmer in that area had all his chickens die.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 13, 2023 12:30 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 13, 2023 12:13 PM (uNylN)
American transportation nets don't collapse and allow toxic chemicals to poison counties, only Communist countries have that happen.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 13, 2023 12:30 PM (xhaym)
"I love de guhment!"
//Free Shit Army
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:30 PM (Lzpvj)
You know its a good point. They knew he wasn't a physical danger.
And...he's black right? This might be the first time we've had video of the police being unnecessarily rough in arresting a black guy that hasn't let to riots...
Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 13, 2023 12:30 PM (Zqeqr)
Like Chernobyl
Posted by: Kindltot at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (xhaym)
Apparently, the RR (Norfolk Southern) company in Ohio runs the state. Then you have a Republican as the governor and madness ensues. Acid rain and Phosgene will decimate the zones ecology.
The company with “market value of $55 billion fought the Federal Railroad Administration’s push to upgrade the ‘Civil War era’ brake system that remains widely used in American trains, and against stricter rules on the transport of hazardous materials.”
Everyone: Meet Alan Shaw. He’s the CEO of Norfolk Southern, the train company responsible for the derailment. He’s also funding COP CITY, in Atlanta GA.
So, funding Cop Cities is why people especially this Journalist was arrested? That what it is sounding like to me. Fund the enforcers so they will serve and protect your interest. Thanks for sharing this enlightening info!!
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:18 PM (Lzpvj)
well, they all probably use Sherman as their inspiration...
Posted by: SturmToddler at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (Mkvkw)
hi Kallisto. I am not new at all, been around since the LGF days, had a different nic and then went into lurk status because I was being hunted (literally) by my ex. And I was 6 when that song came out, so finally, I am too young for something again!
this is so cool, Piper knows The Floaters! well not personally I guess, but at least she knows the song
Posted by: kallisto at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (dCxaZ)
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It's more of a swamp than a tower, really.
But they definitely got the devil part right.
Posted by: Just Lily at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (PKlQk)
Under sharia law, this would not happen!
Posted by: Merging the Threads at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (wrJpE)
Well, because it's happening on Biden's watch,
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Also they are obsessed with the wonders of public transit.
So Green!!!
It turns the air green, the water green, the fish green....
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (hW6y3)
Posted by: Haywood at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (K23pB)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2023 12:32 PM (D25PY)
Saw a tweet yesterday (maybe, maybe the day before) that a farmer in that area had all his chickens die.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 13, 2023 12:30 PM (enJYY)
Bird lungs are VERY sensitive to stuff like that. Burning your teflon pan can easily kill them.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:32 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: tv producers everywhere at February 13, 2023 12:32 PM (rJ48h)
China on Monday accused the United States of flying spy balloons into its airspace without permission more than 10 times since the start of 2022, further escalating tensions between the two countries.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 13, 2023 12:32 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Joe Biden at February 13, 2023 12:32 PM (e2onP)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 12:32 PM (lz5hY)
Well, because it's happening on Biden's watch, and because the media knows that this disaster is once again well beyond the capabilities of the Secretary of Transportation, Mayor Butt, to manage."
Look, if experts say a controlled burn is safe, who are we peons to question their expertness? Are you an expert, hater?
Posted by: Ripley at February 13, 2023 12:33 PM (cUYo/)
The GOPe wants to run someone like Mittens on a platform of "All the Woke stuff the left wants but slower and more completely administered!"
Posted by: 18-1
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The more people that run, the easier it is for Trump to win as he probably has a 30 percent lower limit for support. The primary problem for DeSantis is how do you address all these favorite sons e.g. Tim Scott is discussing running in SC and now Sununu in the NH primary which are crucial for a challenger to win to get momentum.
It may be that the GOPe are resigned to or want to have Trump and DeSantis take each other out leaving room for some dark horse like Youngkin or Kemp to be the nominee at the convention.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:33 PM (GVj+S)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 13, 2023 12:33 PM (NpAcC)
Most Americans are tired hearing about those crazy Palestinians (the world's worst negotiators) of the Mid-west (or Middle East).
Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 12:33 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:32 PM (ynpvh)
Heh. Sorry. Inside joke I made in an Inorganic class in 1996.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:33 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 13, 2023 12:33 PM (Cus5s)
>>Just found out the engineer and the conductor are women and weren't on speaking terms. Under sharia law, this would not happen!
I literally snorted Sprite Zero through my nostrils. Thanks a lot dude.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:33 PM (MDmJR)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (MDmJR)
Yeah, her breasts are definitely too large. Needs some more muscle mass, too. And some facial hair. But otherwise really hot.
Posted by: Super-Straight Cory Booker at February 13, 2023 12:33 PM (bhRsz)
And they'll define oil as an "industrial chemical".
No pipelines, and no oil trains.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (2tUFv)
Nobody is coming to save you.
You're on your own.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (D25PY)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (p+1gI)
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He’ll be President in 2024
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (Z4AnZ)
China on Monday accused the United States of flying spy balloons into its airspace without permission more than 10 times since the start of 2022, further escalating tensions between the two countries.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 13, 2023 12:32 PM (63Dwl)
Bitch, please! Just shoot them down.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (ynpvh)
"Track 29 nine, can I give you a shine?"
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 12:32 PM (lz5hY)
Sarin and Lace!
I used to call funny... oh my God, your face is melting!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Haywood at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (K23pB)
I'd be 100% convinced it was part of a plan but for the fact that the Left f*cks up everything it touches. Instead I'm 90% convinced.
Posted by: Ordinary American at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (H8QX8)
___________
Words that shall never come out of my mouth.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (lf83v)
Also in light of covid, maybe the wreck was engineered.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (jxVII)
No conspiracy there.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (Zqeqr)
It may be that the GOPe are resigned to or want to have Trump and DeSantis take each other out leaving room for some dark horse like Youngkin or Kemp to be the nominee at the convention.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:33 PM (GVj+S)
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Those sorts of native son candidates in only one state never work.
Lindsay Graham did it in SC in 2016, and he dropped out before the primary and endorsed Jeb Bush who finished 4th with less than 8%.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
https://youtu.be/idqPwX1XQOg
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (lEVn+)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 13, 2023 12:35 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 12:35 PM (N4QQ2)
Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 12:35 PM (ZdaMQ)
Under sharia law, this would not happen!
Posted by: Merging the Threads at February 13, 2023 12:31 PM (wrJpE)
You shatter those glass ceilings, gurlz!!!
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:35 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 12:35 PM (ffbyg)
Posted by: red speck at February 13, 2023 12:35 PM (gS3OW)
I think you give them too much credit for evil, Machiavellian thought processes. They're pretty much limited to yoga pants and expensive junkets.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:35 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 13, 2023 12:35 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (qnsfO) "
that's what I was wondering, too.
doubt that anyone (even in a hazmat spacesuit) has been close enough to find out. I will be watching for the full formal NTSB report to come out, though; think 6 months + from now.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (XzIdt)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (lf83v)
This.
Well, except the clownishly big fakes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (zZu0s)
>>It may be that the GOPe are resigned to or want to have Trump and DeSantis take each other out leaving room for some dark horse like Youngkin or Kemp to be the nominee at the convention.
The GOPe is stupid, unless they rig the primaries similar to how the Donks did, it's going to come down to the only two candidates that are acceptable to the Base, last time it was Cruz and Trump, if DeSantis runs it will be him and Trump, with Trump ultimately taking it.
DeSantis has nothing to run on except I'm going to do everything Trump did except better.
And that's not going to cut it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (MDmJR)
Were you or a relative living next to the Ohio train wreck in 2023? You may have been exposed to cancer causing agents and may be eligible for compensation . Call the Law Firm of Giveme, Monie and Now.
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (qnsfO)
Posted by: It's happening
Dems have their own failure theater and reparations is probably the latest one for them to pull off. Niche issue that does not attract majority support if they actually try to implement it.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (GVj+S)
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But first, give me your gas stoves.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (RHGPo)
I thought the official RINO Part was the GOP.
Posted by: Fat Jonah of Krypton at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (eDqf7)
'Where's that gnome Fauci to tell us...'
Be careful when you give even ironic deference to that bureaucrat bastard, it could become a habit.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (q3iUt)
Wait, I am lost I am supposed to dislike the OH NG AG, and Mike DeWine because a reporter was given a little lovetap compared to what I wish happened to them?
Headbutting a reporter got Gianforte 30,000 votes in Montana.
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (lz5hY)
Lindsay Graham did it in SC in 2016, and he dropped out before the primary and endorsed Jeb Bush who finished 4th with less than 8%.
They're either trying to nudge the platform in their desired direction, or they're auditioning for a role in the upcoming administration.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (Lzpvj)
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Isn't it time that we banned fertilizers?
Posted by: ShainS -- Slaves no longer require coercion because they love their servitude at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (DUIqS)
Posted by: Nero at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:27 PM (MDmJR)
Oh man, that movie sucked. After watching that us it any wonder Tony Scott killed himself?
Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (N4QQ2)
You're on your own.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
I would add that waiting until you see running gun battles in the streets before you make that emergency trip to Walmart for supplies isn't the best plan.
Posted by: I Mean at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (dheQy)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (+Wcyp)
Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (RHGPo)
___________
Words that shall never come out of my mouth.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:34 PM (lf83v)
There is too big.
https://is.gd/codUQr
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (KSNKu)
doubt that anyone (even in a hazmat spacesuit) has been close enough to find out. I will be watching for the full formal NTSB report to come out, though; think 6 months + from now.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
No one in Ohio knows how to fly a drone?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (SbJgO)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 13, 2023 12:38 PM (iFTx/)
And that's not going to cut it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (MDmJR)
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I still maintain that DeSantis won't run at all unless he feels Trump is weak enough. He won't make a decision until at least summer when it's Trump vs. 31 flavors of GOPe, and Trump is never winning by less than 30 points against the number 2 candidate.
With that kind of field, Trump doesn't look weak. He looks like he's running away with the race, and DeSantis never enters the race.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:38 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Casey Jones at February 13, 2023 12:38 PM (6bDIQ)
Posted by: Zombie Weyauwega at February 13, 2023 12:38 PM (MIODZ)
Colorado says "Hi".
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 13, 2023 12:38 PM (JglZ8)
Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (ZdaMQ)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (KSNKu)
The Aral Sea just texted me to say nothing because it's fucking gone.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (u73oe)
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)
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You can say that about everyone except a couple of people who run for presidential nominations.
Do you really think Ben Carson thought he had a real chance?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:25 PM (ynpvh)
lol, I suspect the former with a name like 'gyro bites' but...can't rule out gyroscopes I guess
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (lEVn+)
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (qnsfO)
Was the decision to burn it off and accept the consequences of hydrogen chloride not a good choice, but perhaps the least-bad choice? If you have tankers on the brink of exploding and no way to safely move them, cool them or contain them, then is opening the valves and burning off the contents a shitty thing that has to be done simply because it's less shitty than the alternative? Because if that's the case, I can understand the decision. If it's the Kobayashi Maru and there's no way to win, then picking the way likely to make you lose the least makes some sense.
Beyond that, at what level is vinyl chloride actually dangerous? Is it PPB or PPM? Because after the initial shock in the water, dilution is usually a good thing - but if the stuff is insanely toxic then the river might be inadequate.
It's certainly bad and people should leave that area, but what are the long-term effects? Once it's over, is it over or are there more serious downstream consequences?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: sven
They have no clue what it takes to make anything.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (SbJgO)
I had read somewhere that temperature detectors reported the "wheels were melting" (so they decided to continue at 30mph!). I assume that means the bearings. Once the wheels fall off, well, the wheels fall off.
Posted by: t-bird at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (amJF4)
>>The GOPe wants to run someone like Mittens on a platform of "All the Woke stuff the left wants but slower and more completely administered!"
Their dream team is Sununu/Hogan, McConnell would literally jism in his britches if they could somehow get those two clowns the nomination.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (MDmJR)
I just got my invitation to the CT GOP's annual fundraiser - the Prescott Bush Dinner. Last year's honoree: Joni Ernst. This year's honoree: Nikki Haley. Ugh.
I think Haley would be in the running for McConnell's endorsement at well.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (N4QQ2)
Damn, dude.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (bhRsz)
>>Oh man, that movie sucked. After watching that us it any wonder Tony Scott killed himself?
See, this is a prime example of how two people can see a film and come away feeling about it drastically different.
I love that film, I love every ridiculous, improbable second of it, right down to the Animal House style where are they now blurbs over stills of the characters at the end.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (MDmJR)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (D25PY)
Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (RHGPo)
DeSantis has nothing to run on except I'm going to do everything Trump did except better.
And that's not going to cut it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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The splitter strategy is a classic GOPe move but usually it is to the benefit of an established warhorse. GWB in 2000, McCain in 2008, Romney in 2012 and so on. Not sure what is going on here as GOPe does not really have a established GOPe candidate with wide popular support. So why run the Nikki's, Scott's, Sununu's, Hogan's, and other such if they want DeSantis?
Only thing I can think of is a brokered convention where they insert a mystery candidate but that may as you say be giving them too much credit.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (GVj+S)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (XzIdt)
Posted by: REDACTED at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (us2H3)
Well, it is black history mumpfh.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (Q2P04)
Want to do some fun reporting? Go investigate just how much of any given state is "controlled" by the railroad. BNSF runs through my area. Mrs D used to ride the commuter rail before she retired. Every stop has an "agent" controlling the boarding area. They are complete assholes and claim authority that rivals the local police.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (anj39)
They are actually trying to revivify it, with limited but real success. It would be great if they succeed.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (lz5hY)
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Pretty much all plastics out gas cyanide when they burn/melt. Cyanide bonds permanently with the iron in your blood. That's kinda bad.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 13, 2023 12:41 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (KSNKu)
The Aral Sea just texted me to say nothing because it's fucking gone.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (/EuRN)
Ask the nomadic tribes who live near... damn my memory!
Semipalatinsk.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:41 PM (zZu0s)
Do you really think Ben Carson thought he had a real chance?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (LvTSG)
You think someone was pushing him? He seemed like a pretty good guy, though clearly he didn't have the organization to hit the ground running. Neither did Trump, as it turned out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:41 PM (lEVn+)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (MDmJR)
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Dolley and I saw that at the dollar theater many moons ago, and it's a running joke in the house.
"That title was a lie! They stopped the train!"
"The title refers to the friendship between Chris Pine and Denzel Washington! Nothing could stop their friendship, not even a speeding train the size of a Chrysler Building!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
Do you really think Ben Carson thought he had a real chance?
No, that was my point. He was trying to do both.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:41 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:41 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 13, 2023 12:41 PM (JglZ8)
There is no industry left in Akron. Zero, zip, nada. Been that way for two decades or more.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 13, 2023 12:42 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Jen the original at February 13, 2023 12:42 PM (y0TXe)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 12:35 PM (ffbyg)
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New kind of sous vide?
You put your live chicken in a baggie and toss it in your cooker overnight. But never use a Teflon pan for that.
Posted by: Just Lily at February 13, 2023 12:42 PM (PKlQk)
>>It may be that the GOPe are resigned to or want to have Trump and DeSantis take each other out leaving room for some dark horse like Youngkin or Kemp to be the nominee at the convention.
The GOPe is stupid, unless they rig the primaries similar to how the Donks did, it's going to come down to the only two candidates that are acceptable to the Base, last time it was Cruz and Trump, if DeSantis runs it will be him and Trump, with Trump ultimately taking it.
DeSantis has nothing to run on except I'm going to do everything Trump did except better.
And that's not going to cut it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:36 PM (MDmJR)
If DeSantis actually ran on a platform like that, I think he'd run away with the nomination, and even the presidency (if, of course, the GOP still has a way to get to 270 EVs in 2024). Not sure if his money handlers would back that message, however.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 13, 2023 12:42 PM (/iWhV)
And that's not going to cut it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
He's going to do everything Trump did but with the difference that, because he's nice, the Deep State and their media will allow it all to happen.
That's the pitch. (not by DeSantis, but by the people trying to convince you to back him)
Posted by: t-bird at February 13, 2023 12:42 PM (e2onP)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (+Wcyp)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (D25PY)
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Extremely well. All of those governors are now looking for beach front mansions.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:41 PM (lEVn+)
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It takes more than a minor celebrity profile to win a national nomination for president. Normally, it's a massive political infrastructure that can mobilize in key states for months. Trump did it through taking up all the media oxygen in the room and saying things people liked.
The idea that mild-mannered Ben Carson, political neophyte, had a remote chance of being more than a week-long flash in the pan during the primary was silly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Minuteman at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (LaNzR)
They are actually trying to revivify it, with limited but real success. It would be great if they succeed.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (eOEVl)
Did any of the native fishes survive?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (ynpvh)
There were lots of "Why are they arresting reporters?" comment floating around in support of the cover-up narrative.
It doesn't sound as if it was a conspiracy.
More like dude wouldn't get off of his cellphone in the middle of a presser.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (Zqeqr)
https://is.gd/YImm2M
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (CwhoI)
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:40 PM (eOEVl)
The northern part of what was the Aral Sea has filled back up with water somewhat, enough that fishing operations have resumed. The southern half I think has been written off entirely, though.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:44 PM (bhRsz)
Once the wheels fall off, well, the wheels fall off.
Posted by: t-bird
Once the wheels fall off, the walls close in. (tm)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 12:44 PM (SbJgO)
Posted by: Minuteman at February 13, 2023 12:44 PM (LaNzR)
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:44 PM (qnsfO)
They would. They're still assuming he can be controlled. They're wrong, but that's not my problem.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:44 PM (eOEVl)
This is the equivalent of a cuckhold standing in a corner watching his wife get plowed by Paolo.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 13, 2023 12:44 PM (N39Ws)
Money laundering and grifting. None of those others have any chance, everyone knows it, but it allows them to pull in cash from all sorts of sources that would not be open to them outside of a national campaign.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 13, 2023 12:45 PM (PmqP5)
Posted by: Minuteman at February 13, 2023 12:45 PM (LaNzR)
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 12:45 PM (i7dZ9)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2023 12:37 PM (KSNKu)
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If we are in charge it will be Utopia!!!
Posted by: Woke Leftists at February 13, 2023 12:45 PM (17s+e)
https://is.gd/YImm2M
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (t0OGg)
You know my keywords. Have to change my passwords again.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:45 PM (zZu0s)
"Unidentified balloons over US are the activation of the intelligence of China and Russia"
DAMN YOU, PUTIN!
Posted by: Everything Is Putin! at February 13, 2023 12:45 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: The EPA at February 13, 2023 12:46 PM (CwhoI)
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 13, 2023 12:46 PM (sAmhv)
>>"The title refers to the friendship between Chris Pine and Denzel Washington! Nothing could stop their friendship, not even a speeding train the size of a Chrysler Building!"
If Bros could have harnessed some of that Washington/Pine, we're totally not g*y, but super machismo hombres out machismoing ourselves, it would have been a hit, I'll tell ya.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:46 PM (MDmJR)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 12:46 PM (SbJgO)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:46 PM (MDmJR)
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I'm not a big Tony Scott fan, but Unstoppable is solidly good fun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:47 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
A friendship that didn't actually exist until after they heard about the speeding train, but hey.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:47 PM (bhRsz)
I believe so, since it did not entirely dry up.
The northern part of what was the Aral Sea has filled back up with water somewhat, enough that fishing operations have resumed. The southern half I think has been written off entirely, though.
I'm very reluctant to underestimate nature's ability to regenerate. Remember that the Gulf of Mexico was going to be a dead zone for centuries after Deepwater Horizon, and the poor caribou wouldn't survive the Alyeska pipeline. Both are thriving.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:47 PM (eOEVl)
https://tinyurl.com/28e4kkem
Including other links, including DeWine tweet.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 13, 2023 12:47 PM (Vwz3I)
We have quite the crop of GOPe female politicians in Conservative clothing worming their way up the ranks. Certainly Kristi Noem and possibly Kim Reynolds in Iowa. Reynolds for the most part is doing a better job than Noem, but I always worry the mask will come off...
Posted by: Grimmy at February 13, 2023 12:47 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: red speck at February 13, 2023 12:47 PM (gS3OW)
Excuse me, I believe they prefer to be called "undocumented".
Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (CwhoI)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (Y+l9t)
https://is.gd/YImm2M
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (t0OGg)
Soulless but cute
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (lEVn+)
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They are there for Narrative Enhancement.
It will be all anti Trump all day, all the time.
Many different voices coincidentally singing the same exact tune, 24/7 to persuade the wahmenz.
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (i7dZ9)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Taiwan at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (dheQy)
Posted by: Piper at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (ZdaMQ)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: This is CNN at February 13, 2023 12:49 PM (gaSe6)
Why the phrase “flesh eating”? Give me a good barbecue and I’m a flesh-eating zombie.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 13, 2023 12:49 PM (PmqP5)
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 12:48 PM (i7dZ9)
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Diffusing the anti-Trump vote in every direction, ensuring that Trump easily wins.
The GOPe is stupid.
Push everyone behind Liz Cheney and let it be done. They might have a shot then.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:49 PM (LvTSG)
And, of course, there is the plight of the polar bear, who could never survive global worming.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:49 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:49 PM (lf83v)
I believe so, since it did not entirely dry up.
The northern part of what was the Aral Sea has filled back up with water somewhat, enough that fishing operations have resumed. The southern half I think has been written off entirely, though.
I'm very reluctant to underestimate nature's ability to regenerate. Remember that the Gulf of Mexico was going to be a dead zone for centuries after Deepwater Horizon, and the poor caribou wouldn't survive the Alyeska pipeline. Both are thriving.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:47 PM (eOEVl)
Just difficult for fishes to recover if...there's no water.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
I particularly like the part where the filmmakers completely ignore the way track switches actually work
Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (geLO8)
I believe so, since it did not entirely dry up.
The northern part of what was the Aral Sea has filled back up with water somewhat, enough that fishing operations have resumed. The southern half I think has been written off entirely, though.
I'm very reluctant to underestimate nature's ability to regenerate. Remember that the Gulf of Mexico was going to be a dead zone for centuries after Deepwater Horizon, and the poor caribou wouldn't survive the Alyeska pipeline. Both are thriving.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:47 PM (eOEVl)
Oh, and let's not forget the Exxon Valdez, to boot. To your point, it's easy to forget just how big the Earf is. It will take a lot more than a couple of 'massive' oil spills and such to appreciably degrade the planet.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: The EPA at February 13, 2023 12:46 PM (CwhoI)
"You've got Mark Rothko eyes,
Doo doo doo, doodle-dee-doo . . . "
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (x0n13)
The idea that mild-mannered Ben Carson, political neophyte, had a remote chance of being more than a week-long flash in the pan during the primary was silly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (LvTSG)
He should have gotten three 9's or something.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (lEVn+)
Gulp!
Posted by: Taiwan
We got your back, Taiwan. As long as China does come with the big balloons, this'll be no problem...
Posted by: t-bird at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (e2onP)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (17s+e)
>>I'm not a big Tony Scott fan, but Unstoppable is solidly good fun.
We are talking about the same guy who directed Top Gun, True Romance, Crimson Tide, Man on Fire, Enemy of The State to name a few.
I mean he's no Vincent Gallo or Ed Wood, but that's a respectable resume.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (MDmJR)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (lEVn+)
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At least Herman Cain had a gimmick. He still had no shot, and I rate his campaign as a grift, but he had a gimmick.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)
I make a living pretending to be a reporter....
sometimes a reporter wants to be arrested.
Posted by: sven at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (lEVn+)
He'd be every instagram thot's dreamboat then.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (zZu0s)
Gulp!
Posted by: Taiwan
We got your back, Taiwan. As long as China does come with the big balloons, this'll be no problem...
Posted by: t-bird at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (e2onP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiwgOWo7mDc
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (ufFY8)
Psyentists say Utah's Great Salt Lake will disappear
Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (geLO8)
Why, it's almost as if the hysterical types have another agenda.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Mike at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (gaMig)
With that kind of field, Trump doesn't look weak. He looks like he's running away with the race, and DeSantis never enters the race.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I think you have the timeline for DeSantis to announce correct but I assume that he is running. You don't raise over 100 million bucks for the non-competitive Fla governor race unless you plan higher office.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (GVj+S)
>>I particularly like the part where the filmmakers completely ignore the way track switches actually work
As the saying goes: STORY!!!!!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (MDmJR)
The good news is, exposure to PVC smoke cures both tinnitus and toenail fungus, so maybe we can get those damn ads off our feed...
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (wKMPF)
The others are running because it's a way to make some cash, and possibly be picked as the VP candidate. If the GOPe wants DeSantis, they're going to make sure that everyone around him is under their control.
Posted by: Ronald at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (wmDcS)
Specifically, he had a knack for saying things that people liked, that the media was so out of touch as to think it would harm him.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (PmqP5)
Posted by: Jen the original at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (y0TXe)
Posted by: This is CNN
I blame those homo joo's!!!!
Posted by: Joy Reid, not hysterical at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (sAmhv)
Salmon are exquisitely genetically tuned for a particular river or stream. If you lose all the salmon in a stream, you can't replace them with other salmon - the genetics are too different. It is equivalent to wiping out an entire species.
Also, the Kiwis tossed a few salmon from the Sacramento River into a few rivers in New Zealand, and now New Zealand has huge salmon runs.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (2tUFv)
Of course, this could all be BS, but it sounds to me like everyone's egos got involved. The person doing the media briefing could have had more patience. The reporter could have treated the briefing as a briefing and not tried to treat it like his personal live broadcast. The police could have done a simple no trespass or a warning to treat the briefing as such and follow the protocols for that. IE listen while they're talking, then ask questions in turn.
Note, I am not saying the chemical disaster is not serious. I'm not saying there isn't some coverup going on. I just don't think this narrative that they're shutting up reporters for telling the truth because it's a huge coverup is entirely correct.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (V1QHJ)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM
I give you the reverse aqualung - Prof. Wernstrom
Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (gmo/4)
Democrats are incapable of embarrassment.
Republicans are incapable of understand they'll never win another national election.
Posted by: Auspex at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (j4U/Z)
I mean he's no Vincent Gallo or Ed Wood, but that's a respectable resume.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (MDmJR)
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I don't really like Enemy of the State, and he also made freaking Domino. Then there's stuff like Days of Thunder which is...passable, I guess.
Also, Top Gun is half of a terrible movie and half of an awesome movie.
I just can't with the Tony Scott love. His brother is a significantly more gifted filmmaker. Alien, Blade Runner, Matchstick Men, Kingdom of Heaven, hell, even White Squall is solid stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)
Another grim milestone for the Biden administration.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 13, 2023 12:53 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Yeah, you know, if they were shipping that stuff in a pipeline there would be no derailments.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 13, 2023 12:53 PM (DveAR)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 12:39 PM (SbJgO)
I'm long past assuming ignorance when it comes to these shitstains. I think they just don't care.
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 12:53 PM (i7dZ9)
>>I particularly like the part where the filmmakers completely ignore the way track switches actually work
As the saying goes: STORY!!!!!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (MDmJR)
We talking Under Siege 2? I dislike the movie because it did not have the surprise, high quality, nudity of the first.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:53 PM (zZu0s)
The train, carrying 150-200 cars, derailed on Friday in East Palestine, Columbiana County and caught fire, stretching from a quarter to a half-mile along the tracks. Although the intensity of the fire has decreased, it is still burning as of Sunday evening.
The evacuation notice follows a “drastic temperature change” in one of the rail cars, which could lead to an explosion that could send shrapnel up to a mile away, the Governor’s Office said.||
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 13, 2023 12:53 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: Rashida Tleiiiiiiib! at February 13, 2023 12:53 PM (N4QQ2)
Vanguard, JP Morgan, Black Rock and more, the usual democrat donors.
https://tinyurl.com/yckjwr64
Posted by: huerfano at February 13, 2023 12:53 PM (dTFZY)
Nature points out the folly of man.
Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:53 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: mikethemoose at February 13, 2023 12:54 PM (T/vhV)
If we are in charge it will be Utopia!!!
Posted by: Woke Leftists at February 13, 2023 12:45 PM (17s+e)
Comrade, Your use of "Utopia" is troubling. The New Current Think is that Ourtopia will be a place of unlimited Human Equity for All.
Perhaps you should report to your local DEI Sector Officer for counseling.
Posted by: Woker Leftists at February 13, 2023 12:54 PM (cupoy)
>>I just can't with the Tony Scott love.
No, I get it, I feel the same way with Tarantino and De Palma, just messin' about is all.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:54 PM (MDmJR)
It will be all anti Trump all day, all the time.
Many different voices coincidentally singing the same exact tune, 24/7 to persuade the wahmenz.
Posted by: ...
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That sort of approach works when a candidate is not defined but not so well for incumbents (essentially Trump is the incumbent here). The usual tactic is to use one candidate to make a kill shot rather than a shotgun approach.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:54 PM (GVj+S)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:47 PM (LvTSG)
I would have liked it more if they could have made it look like the train was going fast.
Posted by: Wally at February 13, 2023 12:54 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (GVj+S)
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I think it's about $200 million, and yes, it's a massive warchest.
I'm sure he's got consultants crawling all over him, begging him to run and let them have a piece of that $200 million pie, but, at the same time, he stays at the top of the conservative dreamlist while knocking the left around within his own borders and doesn't have to take on an incumbent president with the largest fraud operation in history.
There's nothing saying he can't keep hold of it until 2028.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (LvTSG)
Also, Top Gun is half of a terrible movie and half of an awesome movie.
I just can't with the Tony Scott love. His brother is a significantly more gifted filmmaker. Alien, Blade Runner, Matchstick Men, Kingdom of Heaven, hell, even White Squall is solid stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)
*notes the absence of the mention of Prometheus*
*considers mentioning TJM's error*
*thinks better of it, decides to do my part to keep the thread Prometheus-free*
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: This is CNN
I blame those homo joo's!!!!
Posted by: Joy Reid, not hysterical
Dose Greek faggots!
Posted by: Al Sharpton at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (+Wcyp)
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And Jen told us that this morning but it was in the comments so someone didn't see it.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (Vwz3I)
If anyone should have a knowledge of running a train, you'd think Buttigeig would be that man.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (Zqeqr)
"Buttigieg made no mention of the Ohio train derailment while speaking at a conference this morning but did find the time to say that there are too many white people who work construction."
May be worth adding to this story, with a link. It's the National Association of Counties conference.
Most of the Twitter replies laugh at Butty for not knowing that whites are in fact underrepresented in construction jobs, and Hispanics very much overrepresented - as anyone who's ever driven past a construction site with his eyes open and brain turned on would know.
Posted by: Dr. Weevil at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (yj0/u)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)
Also Prometheus and Covenant- everybody sucks sometimes.
Plus, I like 'some' of Ridley's stuff, but his movies which are good/decent tend to have the same quality... kind of a sterile-ness to a lot of the movie and shots. Alien and Blade Runner are both examples of this- and I like both of those.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (zZu0s)
It was necessary to the story!!!
Posted by: Erica Eleniak at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (eOEVl)
https://is.gd/YImm2M
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (t0OGg)
A sweater makes sense. It's a bit nippy there.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (yQpMk)
We must not allow there to be a Centralia Gap!
Centralia gets all the publicity, but there are over a dozen underground coal fires in PA.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (OCO0/)
Eat lead slant - Capt. Wild Bill Kelso, AAF
Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:56 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (ynpvh)
It's not that there was no water in the Aral Sea, it's that what remained was so salty basically nothing could live in it. After the local governments changed their policies and allowed more water to run back into it, the salinity dropped, and they seem to have successfully reintroduced flounder, mackerel, and a few other species. It's kind of a fascinating story, really.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:56 PM (bhRsz)
>>I just can't with the Tony Scott love.
No, I get it, I feel the same way with Tarantino and De Palma, just messin' about is all.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:54 PM (MDmJR)
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I don't begrudge anyone their own tastes.
Except Gaspar Noe fans. Those people are sick.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:56 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 12:53 PM (gmo/4)
Amen.
Posted by: Blue Oyster Cult at February 13, 2023 12:56 PM (FJYfm)
New and exciting: Rotary cannon on locomotives
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2023 12:56 PM (D25PY)
All the GOPe presidential candidates will make bank and then not endorse Trump when they drop out.
Posted by: Beartooth at February 13, 2023 12:56 PM (N52dd)
Which I understand Trump endorsing someone that was highly likely to win, for the "win" bragging rights. But DeWine is a horrible, no good scum bag. The only blank I left on my '22 ballot.
Posted by: Fool Otto at February 13, 2023 12:56 PM (DB16e)
The environmental costs of pipelines is just too high.
Posted by: Warren Buffett, Oil Train Owner! at February 13, 2023 12:56 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 12:57 PM (i7dZ9)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:52 PM (LvTSG)
Ahem. He also made: Thelma and Louise, 1492, GI Jane, Hannibal, A Good Year, American Gangster, Body of Lies, the bad Robin Hood, Exodus: Gods and Kings and one or two other films I will not mention unless provoked.
Tony Scott has a more consistently good resume. Ridley is higher highs and lower lows.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:57 PM (lEVn+)
It was necessary to the story!!!
Posted by: Erica Eleniak at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (eOEVl)
It kept the movie from the dust bin of history, that's for sure.
Whole 9 Yards is the same.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:57 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (LvTSG)
That's what I'm thinking.
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:57 PM (qnsfO)
I don't think the GOPe wants DeSantis to win....they're probably hoping Trump and DeSantis battle it out, kaiju-style, and destroy one another. Have a bunch of random GOPers in the mix, too, see which one clicks with the voters, and try to pump them to victory.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 13, 2023 12:57 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Dr. Weevil at February 13, 2023 12:55 PM (yj0/u)
I think his point is that one is too many.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 12:57 PM (/EuRN)
Kamala is the school bus expert, so I think I'll ask her.
Posted by: Short Bus Pete at February 13, 2023 12:58 PM (wrJpE)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)
Herman Cain always sounded like he was selling pizza. It doesn't help that he ran Godfather Pizza. E dry time he started talking about 9-9-9 Plan I was convinced he was going to start talking about nine nine topping pizzas for nine bucks. Something like that.
Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 12:58 PM (N4QQ2)
>>Except Gaspar Noe fans. Those people are sick.
Gaspar Noe is the David Cronenberg of Harmony Korine's.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 12:58 PM (MDmJR)
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I can see why others are running but expecting them to be a wingman to DeSantis and VP candidate makes it difficult for them to me too DeSantis too much because Trump is at the pole position right now in polling and that probably won't move much until open campaigning begins this fall.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 12:58 PM (GVj+S)
Kamala is the school bus expert, so I think I'll ask her.
Posted by: Short Bus Pete at February 13, 2023 12:58 PM (wrJpE)
*checks picture*
That's a shit load of buses.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (zZu0s)
I blame the Jews.
Posted by: Rashida Tleiiiiiiib!
I fully expect The Squad retards to actually say this at some point. Because they are vicious retards.
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 12:58 PM (N4QQ2)
That would be a good deal. Totino's party pizzas?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (qnsfO)
Posted by: Dr. Weevil
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Not under-represented enough.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (17s+e)
Tony Scott has a more consistently good resume. Ridley is higher highs and lower lows.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:57 PM (lEVn+)
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1492 is good, not great. So sue me, I like GI Jane. It's dumb, but it's fun. Hannibal is a wonderful operatic monster movie. A Good Year...I haven't seen in forever but remember finding it fine. American Gangster is awesome. Body of Lies is similar to A Good Year...it's been way too long. I really like the Robin Hood. It's overcomplicated and has the silly Marian as a soldier stuff, but it's outright libertarian in the best of ways while gorgeous to look at. And damn, I do like Exodus as well. Probably his best looking film, at the least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (LvTSG)
Tony Scott has a more consistently good resume. Ridley is higher highs and lower lows.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:57 PM (lEVn+)
*shuffles feet*
I liked American Gangster.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (bhRsz)
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The Kiwi government is thinking of transplanting grizzly bears and Native Americans to keep the numbers of salmon down but have to complete an ecological survey first.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 13, 2023 12:59 PM (Vwz3I)
The salinity increase and drying of the lake led to the local extinction of the Aral trout, ruffe, Turkestan barbel, and all sturgeon species, and dams now block their return and migration routes; the Aral trout and Syr Darya sturgeon (Pseudoscaphirhynchus fedtschenkoi) may be extinct due to their restricted range. All other native fish, barring the stickleback (which persisted during the lake's shrinkage and salinity increase), were also extirpated, but many have returned to the North Aral Sea following its recovery from the 1990s onwards.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:00 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Miss Issippi at February 13, 2023 01:00 PM (sI15f)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 01:00 PM (LvTSG)
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Hey media, are you starting to see why reporting honestly and holding politicians/government to account on things like January 6th might be important?
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:00 PM (EdaAK)
Posted by: Ozone Layer at February 13, 2023 01:02 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: Thin blue line protecting us from First Amendment rights at February 13, 2023 01:02 PM (7b+Kq)
Posted by: Moron Analyst
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Maybe but the whole favorite son strategy in early primaries effectively blocks that approach. Outside candidates depend on the early three primaries of Iowa (yeah I know it is a caucus), New Hampshire, and South Carolina to build momentum as the rest of the primary schedule rapidly becomes impossible for candidates without a large infrastructure in other states.
It is a sequential game theory approach and very difficult to calculate for minor candidates as you have to have the infrastructure in later states and that requires winning the early primaries to gain money and momentum in time to set up that infrastructure for later primaries.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:02 PM (GVj+S)
Posted by: Cap'n Bill at February 13, 2023 01:02 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
they wasted a perfectly good vintage T-bird for that final shot
Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 01:02 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 13, 2023 01:02 PM (PmqP5)
Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 12:58 PM (N4QQ2)
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Comet Pizza started that with their 6-6-6 Pizza.
Posted by: ShainS -- Slaves no longer require coercion because they love their servitude at February 13, 2023 01:02 PM (d9aGi)
From Julian Ropcke, a very pro-Ukrainian, but honest reporter for BILD (translated from German) three hours ago:
Russia's mega offensive has begun.
Massive Russian advance attempts are taking place along virtually the entire Donbas front. So far with devastating consequences - especially for the Russian army. It remains questionable how long Ukraine can withstand the onslaught of 300,000 men.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 13, 2023 01:02 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 13, 2023 01:03 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Mittens Romney at February 13, 2023 01:04 PM (a3Q+t)
Only if the Maori agree, since the ruling New Zealand Labour government wants to give the Maori a veto over any governmental decision.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 13, 2023 01:04 PM (2tUFv)
270 "184 People have no idea how much methyl-ethyl-badshit runs through their backyards on rails.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy"
ever since the 80's I've had one copy or another of the DOT Hazmat handbook in the door pocket of my car, mostly to decode the placards on tank cars while trains are going by, and tankers on the highway.
the crucial bit is the number, UNxxxx, which obfuscates the contents from the uninformed view; 1203 is gasoline, 1202 is diesel; ethanol is 1170, propane is 1075, liquid nitrogen is 1977 ...
these are some common ones you can see every day, but there are thousands of others!
https://amzn.to/3lyBjhK"
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at February 13, 2023 01:04 PM (XzIdt)
When you don't report what we tell you to, that's trespassing.
Officer, do your duty.
Posted by: Government at February 13, 2023 01:04 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Haywood at February 13, 2023 01:05 PM (K23pB)
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at February 13, 2023 01:05 PM (CCSxw)
Posted by: yoeman at February 13, 2023 01:06 PM (BYNHj)
How'd that work out?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 13, 2023 01:06 PM (DhOHl)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 13, 2023 01:03 PM (63Dwl)
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The train is probably full of chemicals used in the manufacture of environmentally friendly green energy.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at February 13, 2023 01:06 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2023 01:06 PM (D25PY)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (QbC6G)
And thence into the ocean. Yes, I know the ocean is large, but is it large enough to dilute the resultant rise in acidity as the stuff falls out of the clouds?
I also wonder why it took the Governor two days to give the evacuate order. Did he say anything at all about it before then?
Posted by: Flyover at February 13, 2023 01:06 PM (Rbu5d)
No mention of the Palestine chemical disaster, or the Junta encouraging the onset of WW3 in eastern Europe.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2023 01:06 PM (+iiWN)
Don't look now, but:
East Palestine, Ohio
Black 0.6%
White alone, 94.5%
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:06 PM (EdaAK)
When will we begin to witness "mysterious" illnesses or deaths caused by consuming contaminated food if they do not acknowledge that this is a significant issue? Soon to be followed by severe crackdowns on sources of misinformation / disinformation that accurately assign the illnesses or deaths to poisoning resulting from this disaster?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:06 PM (V1QHJ)
Which I understand Trump endorsing someone that was highly likely to win, for the "win" bragging rights. But DeWine is a horrible, no good scum bag. The only blank I left on my '22 ballot.
Posted by: Fool Otto
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Trump is running an insider campaign in the states this time--he is not an insurgent candidate so he is coopting the establishment in critical states like South Carolina. His rally with Ladybugs Lindsay and Henry McMaster is designed to block out much support statewide for Tim Scott or Nikki.
That is certainly a risk though if the GOP electorate in 2024 wants a change because it makes DeSantis the change agent.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:07 PM (GVj+S)
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This feels ironic
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 01:07 PM (5ebrm)
It is a sequential game theory approach and very difficult to calculate for minor candidates as you have to have the infrastructure in later states and that requires winning the early primaries to gain money and momentum in time to set up that infrastructure for later primaries.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:02 PM (GVj+S)
This strategy hasn't worked since Carter in 1976. Football coaches don't still run the Winged T formation, or even the Run and Shoot, but politicians hang onto this Carter win from almost 50 years ago
Posted by: Wally at February 13, 2023 01:07 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Flyover
well, they probably wanted to do some internal polling to see how the disaster was playing with the public
Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 01:07 PM (geLO8)
Did a good job of it from outside appearances, as I recall, and immediately threw it away when she left.
I’m thinking mainly of her stint at (telling off) the U.N.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 13, 2023 01:08 PM (PmqP5)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 01:08 PM (sjxgf)
Posted by: Jen the original at February 13, 2023 01:08 PM (y0TXe)
2020 71.51%
2016 68.13%
2012 54.66%
2008 52.54%
2004 52.06%
2000 49.08%
Posted by: Baldy at February 13, 2023 01:08 PM (xud/k)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 13, 2023 01:09 PM (TGPs7)
DeSantis/Santos 2024
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2023 01:09 PM (D25PY)
Behind/inside
Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at February 13, 2023 01:09 PM (0SrVS)
I've seen reports that the Ukrainians are losing around ten men for every on Russian they kill. I have no idea what the real numbers are, but everything I've seen indicates the Ukes are still losing more than the Russians are. If 300K Russian fighters are entering the combat zone, I don't see how the Ukes will survive this.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:09 PM (V1QHJ)
I eagerly await SecGay Buttgiggity coming on line and telling us that the whole problem could have been avoided by transporting vinyl chloride in the trunk of our electric vehicles.
The guy is a genius, I tell you, genius!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 13, 2023 01:09 PM (yCjjf)
They do. I think this is a major, possibly fatal, error.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:09 PM (eOEVl)
well, they probably wanted to do some internal polling to see how the disaster was playing with the public
Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 01:07 PM (geLO
And ask the railroad owners if they wanted the dangers mentioned, or spare their blushes
Posted by: CN at February 13, 2023 01:09 PM (Zzbjj)
Posted by: Flyover
well, they probably wanted to do some internal polling to see how the disaster was playing with the public
Posted by: DB at February 13, 2023 01:07 PM (geLO
Government employees don't work on weekends.
Posted by: Robert at February 13, 2023 01:10 PM (N4QQ2)
Is there anything the Democrats WON'T blow up and poison the earth with?
Posted by: Brass Bancroft at February 13, 2023 01:10 PM (T7017)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:09 PM (V1QHJ)
Casualty reports are always shaky at best. In this environment I would not trust either side.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 01:10 PM (zZu0s)
Godfather's Pizza: Pita bread, ketchup, Velveeta and bologna.
Posted by: Auspex at February 13, 2023 01:10 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:19 PM (lEVn+)
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Incorrect.
awiens.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM (LvTSG)
https://tinyurl.com/3erevutu
Posted by: Flyover at February 13, 2023 01:10 PM (Rbu5d)
Absurd. The Ukes aren't the ones staging mass, suicidal, frontal assaults with poorly equipped conscripts.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:11 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Wally
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I agree but the GOP has always been pretty much a party that makes the decision who is going to be the nominee BEFORE the primaries until Trump.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:11 PM (GVj+S)
I agree, MacGregor hopes that Zdogg lets his soldiers flee or surrender, but thinks he's too invested in making martyrs...and escalating the war
Posted by: CN at February 13, 2023 01:11 PM (Zzbjj)
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And like Pence she was a good soldier for as long as she needed to be and had a LOT of people fooled, even DESPITE prior warning signs. .
Might be a lesson in that. Might not be. Eh forget it, it's probably not important.
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 01:12 PM (OCwj1)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 01:12 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
Her unborn baby has been to more Superbowls than the Dallas Cowboys in the last 25 years.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 01:12 PM (SbJgO)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at February 13, 2023 01:12 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: polynikes
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Well, mine is 'The Train'. Burt Lancaster doing all of his own stunts, And the train-yard bombing was one of those. 'We only get to make one take' shots.
Then, there is the derailment scene in 'The Fugitive'. Also a live one-time shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LF4I1S9rOo
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 13, 2023 01:13 PM (q0Hle)
Posted by: Sphynx at February 13, 2023 01:13 PM (P6qMv)
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I remember that commercial because he says "brave" and not bold. It always annoyed me. More than Taterhead normally does.
Speaking of, did you know he permanently damaged his internal organs because He's Super Smart and knows all about Global Warming and other Important Stuff and he decided he do a super smart diet and it almost killed him but only because he's so smart?
I *guarantee* he was face down on that couch at some point.
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:13 PM (EdaAK)
Might be a lesson in that. Might not be. Eh forget it, it's probably not important.
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 01:12 PM (OCwj1)
It's just a flag, nothing to worry about.
It's just a few statues, nothing to worry about.
It's just your kids, nothing to worry about.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 01:13 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 01:13 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 13, 2023 01:14 PM (+Wcyp)
No, they're engaging in guerilla warfare with poorly trained civilians who have no idea how to use the equipment shoved into their hands.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:14 PM (V1QHJ)
Posted by: Floridachick at February 13, 2023 12:24 PM (5Qj+5)
Must admit I was wondering the same thing.
Posted by: Flyover at February 13, 2023 01:14 PM (Rbu5d)
This is a dumb way to present this. They presented it like the cleanup crew had a choice. This is standard practice for liquified gas tanker fires to prevent a BLEVE.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 13, 2023 01:14 PM (Y5qcH)
Posted by: bonhomme
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They will fight 'til your last dollar.
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:14 PM (EdaAK)
I thought Obummer fixed all the infrastructure problems?
U.S. has the worst shape railroads in the world, or at least the first world.
Posted by: Sphynx at February 13, 2023 01:14 PM (P6qMv)
Posted by: Auspex at February 13, 2023 01:10 PM (j4U/Z)
Godfather's Pizza, doo iiiitt.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 13, 2023 01:15 PM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: Hunter's Crack Pipe at February 13, 2023 01:15 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Fool Otto at February 13, 2023 01:15 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:11 PM (GVj+S)
Agreed. Name recognition has always been the way to go.
Years ago, I worked on a campaign trying the old Carter "We'll surprise them in Iowa, pick up a little more momentum in New Hampshire, and then, LOOK OUT!" It didn't work.
Posted by: Wally at February 13, 2023 01:15 PM (FJYfm)
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(ears perk up)
I can finally be part of something important!
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:15 PM (EdaAK)
Posted by: bonhomme
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Old military maxim was that the offense had to outnumber the defense in trench warfare by at least 3:1 because the offense is likely to suffer proportionately more casualties than defenders in fixed defenses.
What it appears that Russia is doing is attrition figuring correctly that they can trade lives for real estate more than the Ukrainians can.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:16 PM (GVj+S)
https://tinyurl.com/3bnry6n8
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:16 PM (eOEVl)
I consider this on the level of click bait.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 13, 2023 01:17 PM (BdMk6)
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Public health officials couldn't get the fish to socially distance so they are closing the schools...
Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 01:17 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 13, 2023 01:17 PM (hf5YE)
Other than everything you said, you are correct. Also, if they're so inept, why have the Russians been immobile for so long?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:17 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: John Fetterman at February 13, 2023 01:17 PM (vwCZJ)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 13, 2023 01:18 PM (jxVII)
- Ukrainian politicians
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:18 PM (EdaAK)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 13, 2023 01:13 PM (J2vNu)
OK, I don't know much about transportation, but I am quite the pipe smoker!
Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 13, 2023 01:18 PM (FJYfm)
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During Chinese Spy Balloon and UFO Pride Month?
REALLY???
Posted by: ShainS -- Slaves no longer require coercion because they love their servitude at February 13, 2023 01:19 PM (xC5xH)
I hadn't heard about that. Did he do the stupid fruit diet that almost killed Steve Jobs?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:19 PM (V1QHJ)
https://tinyurl.com/342s6u96
Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna be easy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 01:19 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: whig
They did it during Stalingrad. It's a winning formula for them.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 01:19 PM (SbJgO)
I consider this on the level of click bait.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
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Even if you want to disregard the media blackout, wildlife deaths, contamination, and denials, don't miss this part:
"A NewsNation reporter was arrested during a news conference held by the Ohio governor about a train derailment."
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:19 PM (EdaAK)
Posted by: Wally
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GOP had (in the past-dunno about today) many less states that allocate delegates proportionally than Dems and did not have the whole super delegate etc. provisions. Harder for an insurgent candidate to break through under those conditions plus adding South Carolina in 88 served as a firewall in the GOP for the frontrunners as Carroll Campbell built a GOP political machine still running the state.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:20 PM (GVj+S)
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:20 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 13, 2023 01:20 PM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2023 12:17 PM (QbC6G)
*******
This should create more dead people in Philly, NJ, and NY, who will all then vote Democrat in the upcoming 4,256 elections. Well, this assumes the left will need another 4,255 elections to cement their place in power.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at February 13, 2023 01:20 PM (xxG/v)
I'm surprised there's enough room in the back seat for that.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 13, 2023 01:20 PM (LLSQr)
boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM0jtD_OWLU
Posted by: Machias Privateer at February 13, 2023 01:20 PM (EMi53)
WTF? Where has this been happening?
A lot of the contested areas in Donetsk oblast have been fortified for years by the Ukes (it's a secret to many, but the war there's' gone on for 9 years now). So taking territory there can be very slow, costly, and even leaving aside Russia's inability to mount serious combined arms maneuver operations, it's a slog by its very nature.
And little if any of the action by either side has involved mass frontal assaults (and "frontal assaults" are kind of your only option in properly fortified areas, so smaller ones have been frequent).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 13, 2023 01:20 PM (OTzUX)
Probably not long if they get a good rain and/or snowstorm through there.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 13, 2023 01:21 PM (LLSQr)
Posted by: Sphynx at February 13, 2023 01:14 PM (P6qMv)
But yet the efficiency of our railroad system is the envy of the world.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 13, 2023 01:21 PM (BdMk6)
The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) &/or others (i.e., Chemical Safety Board (CSB), etc.) that are advisory in nature, will appear to gather reports of actions that were taken, or not, in response to the incident and combine the findings into a report of corrective recommendations for abatement & best practices that are unlikely to be implemented because of time, $, infrastructure, lack of multiple agency coordination, etc.
See ntsb dot gov: Conrail Freight Train Derailment with Vinyl Chloride Release, Paulsboro, NJ November 30, 2012.
Prayers for those affected & the emergency responders.
Posted by: Lola at February 13, 2023 01:21 PM (Wxlzw)
Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 01:22 PM (bs+z0)
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Which we all know means..."to BLUFF". So what happened, your friend was playing poker?
/Miracle Max
Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 01:22 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 01:23 PM (avC+E)
“Russian authorities arbitrarily enforce local laws against U.S. citizen religious workers and have opened questionable criminal investigations against U.S. citizens engaged in religious activity.”
related:
“Federal authorities at the DOJ/FBI arbitrarily enforce laws against U.S. citizen religious workers (see Little Sisters of the Poor) and have opened questionable criminal investigations against U.S. citizens engaged in religious activity (Radical Traditional Catholics).”
Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 01:23 PM (RHGPo)
I hadn't heard about that. Did he do the stupid fruit diet that almost killed Steve Jobs?
Posted by: bonhomme
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I thought it was potatoes (which is why I've called him Taterhead for years) but it turns out it's chicken breast. Nothing else. No nutrition whatsoever.
Now listen to him explain Global Warming to you.
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:23 PM (EdaAK)
boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion
aka a fuel-air bomb.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:23 PM (eOEVl)
Now listen to him explain Global Warming to you.
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:23 PM (EdaAK)
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In a minute. He's busy explaining how the public schools aren't leftist enough right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 01:24 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 13, 2023 01:24 PM (LLSQr)
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hahahaha
The Ukraine supporters might just get their WWIII after all.
The Big Guy thanks you for the 10%!
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:24 PM (EdaAK)
>>Here's a pretty good summary of DeSantis' position vis a vis Scott Walker's in 2016. Amazingly, it's in an organ of the NYT.
My biggest issues with DeSantis is that there is no rational for his run, there's also no getting around the Hale/Yarvard/MIC/Skull and Bones pedigree.
Also of note, he was already a no-account, useless POS congressman for 8 years, he knows what the score is, he's not going to Washington to tell the humps what's what, he was one of those humps and he knows that rank and file are just cogs and votes for the machine, a machine that is not run by the sitting President of The US.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2023 01:24 PM (MDmJR)
“Russian authorities arbitrarily enforce local laws against U.S. citizen religious workers and have opened questionable criminal investigations against U.S. citizens engaged in religious activity.”
related:
“Federal authorities at the DOJ/FBI arbitrarily enforce laws against U.S. citizen religious workers (see Little Sisters of the Poor) and have opened questionable criminal investigations against U.S. citizens engaged in religious activity (Radical Traditional Catholics).”
Posted by: SMOD at February 13, 2023 01:23 PM (RHGPo)
If they didn't figure this out after Britney Griner, they're either too dumb or making too much money to leave now.
Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 13, 2023 01:24 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (avC+E)
What possible justification does the media have for not covering this like they normally would?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (0hOvj)
1984 Bhopal disaster, 45 tons of methyl isocyanate was released. ~20,000 people died. ~500,000 survivors had respiratory problems, blindness and other eye problems. Several hundred tons of industrial waste were on site for decades.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (V1QHJ)
I'm surprised there's enough room in the back seat for that.
Posted by: FeatherBlade
Mayor Pete is what? A boy's medium? He's not big at all.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (SbJgO)
It's not a "prescribed burn". It's a jet of fire shooting out of the relief valve and everyone staying way the f'k away.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (Y5qcH)
Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (Vu7A1)
With the exception of the initial 60,000 ft. altitude F-22 strike on the Original Balloon, all subsequent strikes were at altitudes easily reachable by non-exotic fighters, such as the F-15 or F-16. Both include two seat versions, with most squadrons including one such for training purposes, and F15-E Strike Eagles are all two seaters, of course.
I'll wager a $20 (same as in town), that before the Sidewinder were Fox-Two'd, that the GIB on a two-seat ship utilized a pro-grade DSLR, and zinged off hundreds of frames of still or actual video photography of the objects in question. Probably from only a few hundred yards separation on a series of close fly-bys.
We have not, of course, seen one single frame or photo from such, but I'll guarandamnteeya, they exist. They'll not let us see them (un-photoshopped, anyway), because too many out here have the knowledge and ability to examine such pics, and make sense of what they're seeing, then tell the rest of us what's up with things.
Long as we're not seeing those pics, it's proof that they're lying to us, still. Q.E.D.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (e6UQI)
I know that's down a ways from human life and health.
As a ute I worked a summer at Pfizer in Groton, changing oil in machinery. One of the areas we went into had signs that you could not wear any nylon or similar fabrics, as the stuff in there would melt it to your body. It seems like it was vinyl chloride but then again I could be misremembering.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (z/ifB)
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SHUT UP CONSPIRACY THEORIST!
Also be sure to get your booster!
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (EdaAK)
Posted by: Iris with her selfsame badge of honor at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (foa6+)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (lEVn+)
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At least Herman Cain had a gimmick. He still had no shot, and I rate his campaign as a grift, but he had a gimmick.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some Best Pictures at February 13, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)
I'd have voted for Herman just to get pizza parties for state dinners...
Posted by: Inogame, Si vi pacium para bellum at February 13, 2023 01:26 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 13, 2023 01:26 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia
I've been saying it's the seventies all over again. They even brought back Chesterfield cigarettes!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 13, 2023 01:26 PM (Wy1BU)
WTF? Where has this been happening?
A lot of the contested areas in Donetsk oblast have been fortified for years by the Ukes (it's a secret to many, but the war there's' gone on for 9 years now). So taking territory there can be very slow, costly, and even leaving aside Russia's inability to mount serious combined arms maneuver operations, it's a slog by its very nature.
Exactly my point. It was asserted that the Ukes were conducting a guerilla war. That is not the case.
And little if any of the action by either side has involved mass frontal assaults (and "frontal assaults" are kind of your only option in properly fortified areas, so smaller ones have been frequent).
Here's an example.
https://tinyurl.com/yfzpyetz
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:26 PM (eOEVl)
OK, dude. They're not arming civilians and nobody is severely under-trained. Got it.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:26 PM (V1QHJ)
Posted by: bonhomme
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That is a significant overstatement. Conscript armies that Russia have are scarcely better in training and arguably poorer in morale.
Right now, most of the information we get is inaccurate particularly by authorities on the subject so you have to use indirect methods to get an rough idea of the truth. E.g. statements against interest such as using the Russian mil bloggers issuing statements against Russian interests and it is much harder to determine exactly where Ukrainians are military wise as they have been much more effective at OpSec than the Russians are. You can see occasionally Western intel agencies such as Germany issue statements against interests about the Ukrainians.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:27 PM (GVj+S)
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Technically something like 90% of the weapons aren't reaching Ukraine, so that's true.
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:27 PM (EdaAK)
Because I'm tired of the usual suspects dragging their Ukraine hatred into every conversation, and then getting the facts completely wrong.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:27 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 13, 2023 01:26 PM (OTzUX)
The only thing better would be if it was due to the threat of Communism and Misinformation.
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 01:27 PM (avC+E)
Posted by: Just Lily at February 13, 2023 12:42 PM (PKlQk)
[side eye]
Posted by: Flyover's Hens at February 13, 2023 01:28 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at February 13, 2023 01:28 PM (W7Wi6)
What possible justification does the media have for not covering this like they normally would?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Facebook keeps claiming the 96 food plants that have burned just isn't true. Except it is.
https://bit.ly/3lBwnZy
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 01:28 PM (SbJgO)
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Boiling liquid sounds bad but this vapor would be at atmospheric temp or perhaps still very cold?
Posted by: TexasDan at February 13, 2023 01:28 PM (z/ifB)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 01:29 PM (8V7g+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 01:29 PM (8V7g+)
Hey, my Mammaw used Aquanet.
Maybe we'll get the XB-70 back.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 01:29 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:27 PM (EdaAK)
And 33 cannibalized M1A1/A2's
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 13, 2023 01:29 PM (OgrpQ)
Ah, a fellow traveler who has learned to recognize the world by what is missing more than or as much as what he sees
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 01:30 PM (avC+E)
Posted by: It's me donna
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Day drinking.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:30 PM (GVj+S)
Last I heard, PCV is no longer code for pipes inside buildings.
Water pipes at least.
Unless it's CPVC, which... is more brittle, I guess? so that doesn't make any sense.
Anyway, ABS for your drains or PEX or hard-pipe for your supply.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 13, 2023 01:30 PM (LLSQr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 13, 2023 01:29 PM (8V7g+)
I like the Bee Gee's and Donna Summer
Posted by: It's me donna at February 13, 2023 01:30 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 13, 2023 12:43 PM (Zqeqr)
Reporters are asshoe. Nothing a punt in the nuts wouldn't fix.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2023 01:30 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: It's me donna
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Day drinking.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:30 PM (GVj+S)
I am thinking of doing my version of thread jacking and posting every barely SFW picture of a busty woman I can find.
Of course, that is kind of my default response.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 01:31 PM (zZu0s)
"NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg says Ukraine is using up ammunition far faster than its allies can provide it just as Russia ramps up its military offensive"
https://tinyurl.com/2luype7w
Man, if I could only remember what NATO stood for. I guess it doesn't really matter since Ukraine isn't part of it.
Wait, what?
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:31 PM (EdaAK)
Vinyl chloride binds to water and becomes hydrochloric acid and formaldehyde. It also seeps right through the ground and ends up in groundwater.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (V1QHJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma
Shitty music and ugly hairstyles have never left us.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (Wy1BU)
Would usher in a new meaning of the word threadjacking
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (avC+E)
=
Lets see, dilution
so, the entire ocean, compared to what 5 or 10 20,000 gallon tankers? Its like if you took a piss in Lake Erie. Locally deplorable, but no measurable change in PH. If you dumped all 10 in the same spot it would be a problem, locally.
Posted by: Not that its okay to transport dangerous chems on trains with burned up wheel bearings at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (puzSj)
Posted by: RUReadingthis at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (aQ25I)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 13, 2023 12:50 PM (/iWhV)
Just look at the Pacific Northwest - 17 million years ago most of Washington/N. Oregon was inundated by lava from the mantle. Didn't stop for millions of years, added about a mile of crust there. In the same area at the end of the ice ages an inland sea emptied out in a catastrophic series of floods that cut scars all over the rock getting to the coast.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 01:31 PM (zZu0s)
I just fall back on terrible, terrible puns.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (/EuRN)
Why is the media so reluctant to cover this massive disaster?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (0hOvj)
So a resurgence in Disco and AquaNet is in the offering?
Posted by: Anna Puma
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I-I don't uh know what uh-uh,, that means
yeah
Posted by: John Fetterman at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (vwCZJ)
What possible justification does the media have for not covering this like they normally would?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (0hOvj)
It's a fucking train derailment. Nothing more. If you want modern comforts, this is the price you have to pay. Shit happens.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Eromero at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (MF3yS)
Posted by: ... at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (avC+E)
Heh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 13, 2023 01:33 PM (wtvvX)
Of course, that is kind of my default response.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Chicken. Bwak bwak. You don't have a hair on your ass if you don't do it.
(Is it working yet? Is the goading working?)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 01:33 PM (SbJgO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2023 01:33 PM (sjxgf)
https://bit.ly/3lBwnZy
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 01:28 PM (SbJgO)
So its an even 100 then?
Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2023 01:33 PM (eoQWY)
Water pipes at least.
Unless it's CPVC, which... is more brittle, I guess? so that doesn't make any sense.
Anyway, ABS for your drains or PEX or hard-pipe for your supply.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 13, 2023 01:30 PM (LLSQr)
Pretty sure you're fine to use PVC? We're using it for water and wastewater plants. Plumbing is not my bag so this is second hand.
The stuff at the plants (and they use all kinds of pipe not just or even very much PVC) is pretty big pipe of course.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 13, 2023 01:33 PM (z/ifB)
Posted by: davidt at February 13, 2023 01:33 PM (SYTee)
East Palestine, Ohio
Black 0.6%
White alone, 94.5%
Posted by: The shots were safe and effective. Some people got safe, some people got effective. at February 13, 2023 01:06 PM (EdaAK)
Man... white AND alone... sad!
Posted by: Inogame, Si vi pacium para bellum at February 13, 2023 01:35 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: whig
They did it during Stalingrad. It's a winning formula for them.
Posted by: rickb223
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Depends on who they are facing and teh fact that Ukraine is not a life or death struggle for Russians like WWII. Might cause Putin's demise but that is far from a winning rationale for those doing human wave attacks.
The real crisis for both countries is the number of trained professionals and they have to have a critical mass in order to direct and lead the replacements. Then there is logistics including food, fuel, ammo, and sundry supplies to support them.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:35 PM (GVj+S)
Posted by: Muldoon at February 13, 2023 01:35 PM (ykeLU)
(Is it working yet? Is the goading working?)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2023 01:33 PM (SbJgO)
Too bad there is a new thread. I'll have to wait until the next thread where Ukraine/Russia and Desantis/Trump rears it's head. Shouldn't be long.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 01:35 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2023 01:36 PM (lTGtQ)
Has anyone told Bootygag that "construction labor" does not fall under the purview of "Transportation"?
Seriously, is anyone in Washinton capable of doing their ~own~ jobs?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 13, 2023 01:36 PM (LLSQr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 13, 2023 01:32 PM (0hOvj)
Maybe it's not as bad as the internet hypsters say it is. Maybe space aliens caused the wreck.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 13, 2023 01:36 PM (BdMk6)
Of course, that is kind of my default response.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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You will awaken the Fenelon if you do and your soul will be in mortal peril.
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:36 PM (GVj+S)
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Russian Evangelicals Penalized Most Under Anti-Evangelism Law
The tight restrictions on minority faiths have increasingly gotten Protestants in trouble and continue to raise concerns over religious freedom.
KATE SHELLNUTT| MAY 7, 2019 09:28 AM
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 13, 2023 01:36 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at February 13, 2023 01:37 PM (cYLbH)
Posted by: Archer at February 13, 2023 01:37 PM (gmo/4)
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Its a bit too coincidental isn't it. But, we'll see I guess. You never know what is going to happen, except this, its going to be weirder than you can imagine right now. Because that's been the one constant for the last 21 years.
Posted by: But sure, we TOTALLY voting our way out of this and a great president can fix anything at February 13, 2023 01:38 PM (1a2Eo)
I agree with all of this. I have made several disclaimers that I am well aware I can't trust any info coming out of the region. I'm just being snarky at people who slam me for observing that Ukraine is fairly obviously not doing all that well in this conflict.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:38 PM (V1QHJ)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2023 01:36 PM (lTGtQ)
Cross country trains less than a mile long are uncommon anymore. The average train is around two miles long.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 13, 2023 01:40 PM (BdMk6)
Is NPR reporting this? I remember how they did endless reporting and speculation on what dire outcomes might come from Three Mile Island.
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at February 13, 2023 01:40 PM (cYLbH)
Posted by: whig at February 13, 2023 01:36 PM (GVj+S)
I shall make peace through superior boobage linking!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 13, 2023 01:40 PM (zZu0s)
Of course, that is kind of my default response.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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You will awaken the Fenelon if you do and your soul will be in mortal peril.
==
well, its not like the whole country didn't publicly celebrate its perversions during half time last night with androgynous machine elves dancing and Rihonna spreading her butt cheeks on camera. I surely, the bar for acceptable behavior has been lowered to the point were one's personal interests superceed any civility or decorum, forget virtue. Yes by all means, degrade yourself.
Posted by: #self respect starts with self control at February 13, 2023 01:42 PM (UD0bc)
Posted by: Antknee Fauchi at February 13, 2023 01:42 PM (aDBAL)
Philadelphia had the Sunoco oil refinery plant explode and go on fire for the LAST time, June 2019.
July 2001, an explosion of a sulfuric acid tank occurred at the Motiva Enterprises refinery in Delaware City, Delaware.
Oct 1980, Five employees at a Delaware Amoco Chemical plant were killed and at least 29 others injured in a propylene gas explosion.
Halting the use of oil, gas, PVC, etc. is not the answer.
Posted by: Lola at February 13, 2023 01:45 PM (Wxlzw)
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He just seemed relatively quiet during his first campaign for Governor. I really had my doubts, and he won by only 30,000 votes. To think how we might have gotten that weird, lefty Gillum
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at February 13, 2023 01:45 PM (cYLbH)
Posted by: so many disasters so little time at February 13, 2023 01:46 PM (UD0bc)
Posted by: Anotheranon at February 13, 2023 01:47 PM (s6Yyc)
Posted by: Colin at February 13, 2023 01:48 PM (lHM9r)
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You see, we've found that if you make the right contributions, you don't have to worry about doing maintence to your rolling stock and the occasional pesky hot axel will be forgiven.
Posted by: N & S RR at February 13, 2023 01:49 PM (MaHTZ)
Posted by: polynikes at February 13, 2023 12:21 PM
Schoolteacher in a truck on the tracks trying to stop the US Air Force from transporting an alien?
Need to check for any kids in the area who could have been filming a home movie at the time of the derailment...
(On a serious note, sabotage by environazi domestic terrorists cannot be ruled out.)
Posted by: Super 8 at February 13, 2023 01:53 PM (Do5/p)
I consider this on the level of click bait.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 13, 2023 01:17 PM (BdMk6)
That's it in a nutshell.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2023 01:53 PM (tkR6S)
The above is normally a misdemeanor, however bodily injury of the victim elevates the action to a felony. The phrase "Color of law" means pretense of law. It is used in this law because any law that claims to take Constitutional rights away from people is null and void from the moment it is written.
The reporter should have arrested the people who were arresting him, any citizen may arrest someone who commits a felony in their presence. Learn the Miranda warning.
The time for being nice, polite, and civil toward those who are uncivil, is over.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 13, 2023 01:56 PM (CecP5)
Posted by: wth at February 13, 2023 02:00 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 13, 2023 01:25 PM (V1QHJ)
Plant run by Indians, with their noted high regard for safety, check.
Plant surrounded, right to the very fence, with a tent city full of poor Indian bums, who took the brunt of the chemical release.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2023 02:00 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: Max Entropy at February 13, 2023 02:02 PM (vIpgS)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 13, 2023 12:30 PM
I posted this in The Morning Report thread this morning:
https://bit.ly/3HUxBX6
The next town over, the release instantly killed everyone's chickens. This stuff is catnip for human cancer
"My video camera footage shows my chickens were perfectly fine before they started this burn, and as soon as they started the burn, my chickens slowed down and they died,”
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 13, 2023 02:03 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2023 01:27 PM (eOEVl)
What about the Ukraine fanbois dragging their Russia hatred into every conversation?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2023 02:03 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: mogsmash at February 13, 2023 02:21 PM (0d7Hb)
Posted by: MikeG at February 13, 2023 02:42 PM (VsUo2)
FORMER Sunoco refinery. They left the refining business in 2012, and the company does not even exist any more. I am stuck with what is left of some of their stock, "Energy Partners." They thought there'd be better money in milk and Twinkies.
A lot of us real conservatives here sure as hell have some hippy-dippy heebie-jeebies about large scale industrial processes. You are mush-mouthed weaklings. Go scrabble in the woods with the rest of the squattopee commies.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 13, 2023 02:43 PM (jYCXf)
Because only Americans are in danger, and many of them are not Democrats and/or from NYC.
Next question?!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at February 13, 2023 02:54 PM (gMml8)
Posted by: DFCtomm at February 13, 2023 02:54 PM (xge03)
But the byproducts of incineration are also dangerous."
On this point they didn't really have a choice. A BLEVE explosion in that situation could be in the kiloton range.
Where they fucked up massively was in downplaying the environmental effects of their lesser-evil decision and generally botching the evacuations. You have locals thinking that N95 masks are going to protect them from the byproducts.
Posted by: somedood at February 13, 2023 03:12 PM (CKXPc)
https://tinyurl.com/3wmnvayb
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at February 13, 2023 03:23 PM (Zvtjl)
Now that Musk owns Twitter I would like to see him actually put this into real practice by employing AI to compile first hand reports of a situation and release a real "on-the-scene" news story eliminating the need for media altogether. He could replace AP reporting with good software.
Posted by: JT Smith at February 13, 2023 04:20 PM (FxdZx)
I'm making $100 an hour working from home. i was greatly surprised at the same time as my neighbour advised me she changed into averaging $100 however I see the way it works now. I experience mass freedom now that I'm my non-public boss.
I highly recommend everyone to apply… http://www.Payathome7.com
Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at February 13, 2023 04:51 PM (9unN2)
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 13, 2023 05:17 PM (wGqjj)
www.alleghenyfront.org/epa-lists-additional-
chemicals-released-in-east-palestine-train-derailment/
A major disaster.
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