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FBI Discovers Six More Documents At Biden's Home in a "Consensual" Search;
Now Considering Searching His Beach House and Other Homes
The raid on Trump's house wasn't "consensual."
So they got Biden's permission to search his house. But note that when you give the cops permission to search your house, it's a special kind of consent. You're consenting because if you refuse, they could very well get a court order and make a spectacle. They didn't offer Trump that deal. They didn't call Trump and say, "We want to search your house and seize your documents. We'd like your permission, otherwise, the next step might be a search warrant and a raid." No, they just went with the raid. Biden gets the Mother-May-I kid gloves. I think the FBI only got involved because the special prosecutor -- not Biden's wingman Merrick Garland -- felt embarrassed that he was letting Biden's defense attorneys collect the evidence against him and realized That's Not How Prosecutions Work. So he called Biden to get his permission for an FBI search, and they found six more classified documents. Biden's been hoarding one of these purloined documents since he was a Senator. Biden's been very clear: He takes classified information very, very seriously.Maximum protection for Biden's privacy -- they didn't think of that when they raided Trump's house with police lights conspicuously flashing. And they're not leaking out pictures of Biden's classified documents arrayed on the floor in a spray. Why not?
FBI is weighing up 'whether to seek searches' of Biden's other homes after DOJ finds six MORE classified documents at his Wilmington house: House Oversight Committee promises to probe President's finances in 'next phase' of its investigation President Biden was in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware while his Wilmington-area property was being searched by Justice Department officials They recovered six files, a number of which has classified markings, per lawyer Meanwhile House Republicans are expanding their probe into the Biden family by examining both his finances and his handling of classified records ... Meanwhile, Republicans are knives out for the president amid the growing scandal. House Oversight Committee Chair Rep. James Comer said his investigation into the Biden family was moving into its 'next phase,' which reportedly involves both the classified documents and the president's finances - along with those of his son Hunter Biden. 'We'll be looking at bank statements. We'll be looking at bank violations,' Comer told the Washington Examiner. 'That's the next phase of our investigation because we're trying to figure out who these anonymous sources are that are sending so much money to the Biden family schemes - the Biden Center for Diplomacy and Hunter Biden's artwork.' Investigating the Biden family and its finances has been a top priority for Comer and House Republicans ever since clinching the chamber majority late last year. ... The latest discovery reportedly brings the total number of classified files found to between 25 and 30. It's not immediately clear how many of the six documents revealed on Saturday were top secret in nature. But the documents found Saturday range from Biden's three-decade tenure in the Senate and his time as Barack Obama's vice president. ... DOJ requested that the search not be made public in advance, in accordance with its standard procedures, and we agreed to cooperate,' the statement read.
... Donald Trump, the former president who is Biden's political arch rival, seized on the debacle to once again declare his own innocence. 'They created this Documents mess for themselves by being so totally DERANGED about me, and I did NOTHING WRONG!!!' Trump wrote on his social media app Truth Social. ... [R]epublican critics of the Democratic president have called that into question after Saturday's discovery. 'AGAIN?!? How in the HELL do they keep screwing this up?? As Biden repeatedly says, "everyone knows how seriously I take classified documents." Yes. Yes we do,' Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz wrote on Twitter.Anna Puma sent this link to This Ain't Hell. It seems that during the 1970s, a certain blowhard Senator voted against Ted Sorenson for CIA director, because he'd taken classified documents home with him. And I think at the time the law was "ambiguous" about whether this was allowed. Now, it's not ambiguous -- you can only read these in a SCIF. But Biden was taking classified documents home with him as a senator.
As a senator in the 1970s, Joe Biden tanked then-President Jimmy Carter's pick to lead the Central Intelligence Agency over the nominee's illegal possession of classified documents. Carter chose Ted Sorenson to serve as his CIA director in 1977. Sorenson had admitted to taking boxes of classified records home with him after leaving the White House in 1964, and using the materials for his work in writing a biography of former President John F. Kennedy. Sorenson's admission to this came in affidavits used in cases involving the Pentagon Papers. At the time, Biden considered the affidavit and joined with Republicans to block Sorenson from being confirmed by the Senate. Biden also suggested Sorenson may have violated the Espionage Act. Then-Sen. Joe Biden found a nominee's use of classified documents as something that should disqualify him from being nominated to lead the CIA. During Sorenson's confirmation hearing, Biden said the "real issue" was "whether Mr. Sorensen intentionally took advantage of ambiguities in the law, or carelessly ignored the law." "If he did so, can he now bring the activities of the intelligence community within the strict limits of the law?" Biden asked. "We will expect that in the future of intelligence agencies. If that is to be the case, then we must hold the Director -- DCI -- accountable as well."
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 23, 2023 02:22 PM (N1tpc)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:22 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 23, 2023 02:23 PM (N1tpc)
Posted by: Flyover at January 23, 2023 02:23 PM (Rbu5d)
Sounds oddly perverted.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:22 PM (1EFfL)
There's pizza in the freezer, guys...
Posted by: Big Guy at January 23, 2023 02:24 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Chris Wray, public servant at January 23, 2023 02:24 PM (YTBIQ)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:24 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Doof at January 23, 2023 02:24 PM (yYFOV)
Posted by: John Fetterman at January 23, 2023 02:24 PM (vwCZJ)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:24 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Be serious Lamont. Of course they alerted him ahead of time. Had they raided the house and found several child sex slaves they might have had someone mention it publicly. Can't have that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at January 23, 2023 02:25 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:24 PM (Zz0t1)
Or is it PHIRST??
Posted by: Doof at January 23, 2023 02:25 PM (yYFOV)
Posted by: Joe Mama at January 23, 2023 02:26 PM (WmGrA)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 02:26 PM (zZu0s)
In fact, the only thing that could destroy him faster were if he were actively and regularly demonstrating cognitive decline for years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:26 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: huerfano at January 23, 2023 02:26 PM (dTFZY)
In fact, I think by law a Corvette is a SCIF.
Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 02:26 PM (FJYfm)
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Listen, Jack. My home is where business gets done!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 02:26 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2023 02:27 PM (AwYPR)
And they're not leaking out pictures of Biden's classified documents arrayed on the floor in a spray. Why not?
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Because if it weren't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 02:27 PM (t0OGg)
The DOJ knew about bidens documents, and told the admin to turn them over. The lawyers were sent to find them becuase the WH wanted to keep this quiet, and the DOJ is getting more involved now because they know that the documents haven't all been turned over.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 23, 2023 02:27 PM (8/woF)
Posted by: Good ol' Joe from Scranton at January 23, 2023 02:27 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2023 02:27 PM (AwYPR)
Nah, he probably wanted to spend more time with his ill gotten gains and underage catamites.
But mostly the catamites.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 02:28 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:28 PM (2XkN6)
Posted by: Joe Mama at January 23, 2023 02:28 PM (WmGrA)
Posted by: huerfano at January 23, 2023 02:26 PM (dTFZY)
I would buy this explanation.
I have to wonder if the people drugging him up are fighting behind the scenes with those who want him gone. Two factions of the praetorian guards who really decide who runs the country.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 23, 2023 02:28 PM (N1tpc)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 02:28 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (2XkN6)
Honestly, I hope they don't. Because they'd just f*ck it up. But it would be nice to hear someone at least say they have cause to do it.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2023 02:27 PM (AwYPR)
Nah, he probably wanted to spend more time with his ill gotten gains and underage catamites.
But mostly the catamites.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 02:28 PM (zZu0s)
So what are vegemites used for?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Joe Mama at January 23, 2023 02:26 PM (WmGrA)
Out: Night of the long knives
In: Month of the long knives
Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (gmo/4)
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Well, he seriously takes classified information, that's for sure.
Posted by: TexasDan at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (z/ifB)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 23, 2023 02:27 PM (8/woF)
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Not sure how it relates to this incident, but I think Garland did take the fall for that and wasn't too happy about it. I don't know how much they had to pay him off (or what form of payment it was), but it was probably large.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Good ol' Joe from Scranton at January 23, 2023 02:27 PM (nfrXX)
Surprised they haven't gone with "everything in the house, I declassified on my 1st day in office" story...it would be the smartest play if they wanted to keep Biden in office. Give him Trump's defense and let both issues die...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (exHjb)
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Whom, it can't be said enough, DID NOT POSSESS THE CLEARANCE REQUIRED TO EVEN GET NEAR THOSE DOCUMENTS.
A flaming-boner-in-the-tailpipe ClownWorld Banana Republic, if you can keep it ..
Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (bAOGD)
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Bet they find lots of kiddie porn.
Posted by: wth at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (v0R5T)
My word as a Brandon!
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (u4CEu)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 02:28 PM (4I/2K)
What she wears in public should be unmentionable. She gives fading trophy wives a bad name.
Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (FJYfm)
full stop.
Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (2XkN6)
How else is he supposed to give that info to the Chinese?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:30 PM (ynpvh)
Honestly, I hope they don't. Because they'd just f*ck it up. But it would be nice to hear someone at least say they have cause to do it.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (H8QX
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"Biden beats partisan impeachment, can get back to business after bipartisan acquittal vote in Senate."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:30 PM (LvTSG)
They did the same in reverse by saying Trump had dozens of folders --- without mentioning the folders were empty and were kept as a souvenir since the documents were rounded up after meetings and stored but the file folders were left over. They still have not named a single document Trump had --- although they have lied about nuclear docs etc...
Our media are propagandists, and inelegant ones at that.
Posted by: Thatch at January 23, 2023 02:30 PM (psed3)
Posted by: huerfano at January 23, 2023 02:26 PM (dTFZY)
Hunter’s life expectancy will significantly shorten once Joe is gone, me thinks.
Posted by: Rex B at January 23, 2023 02:30 PM (pEsAa)
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:30 PM (2XkN6)
It's a MacGuffin
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 02:30 PM (xhxe8)
Yeah, six "articles." An article could be a cardboard box containing hundreds or thousands of documents, no?
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (nfrXX)
I sort of think the Deep State was planning to put Kamala in the White House, but, to their dismay, they've discovered she's even more brainless than Joe.
Neither Joe nor Kamala is going to be around for 2024, I think. As much as it pains me to admit it, I think it's going to be Michelle O.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Miklos, YOU FOOLS at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (6h2ty)
.....
Just how many homes does the poorest man in the Senate have? Oh and wait until they get around to searching his sex dungeon.
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 02:28 PM (4I/2K)
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Her underthings are probably skimpy and sexy and would look *great* on a woman 50 years younger than Jill Biden...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 23, 2023 02:23 PM (N1tpc)
I'll have you know I was reading the prayer list.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (Zz0t1)
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Two years is a long time in that job, and I would t be surprised if he also sees the writing on the wall. The Dems want Biden to step aside in 24, and so are going to ratchet up the pressure until they get it. Klain is getting out while he can. Alternatively, he may have been forced out by internal maneuvering.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (8/woF)
Posted by: Hunter Biden at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (i0Kzs)
Wait, I thought the weasel wording was that they'd found "six items containing classified information," leading to speculation that they'd found six boxes/file cabinets/car trunks of classified documents.
Even if the Biden Bozos are only hanging on to six classified documents, they're still mixing them irresponsibly with unclassified documents.
Posted by: pookysgirl, nursing a pulled neck muscle at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (XKZwp)
Posted by: Oddbob
Yes it could.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (bDjBG)
........
Bet they find lots of kiddie porn.
Posted by: wth at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (v0R5T)
Saw a meme the other day. Setup: Hunter and Joe Biden are sitting on a sofa.
Joe: Do you know what your sister said when she lost her virginity?
Hunter: Dad, please, no!
Joe: Exactly!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Oddbob
Yes it could.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (bDjBG)
Filing cabinets? Rooms? Buildings?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:32 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (FJYfm)
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Yeah, that woman has no fashion sense whatsoever!
Posted by: Michelle Obama - Fshionista at January 23, 2023 02:32 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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Not surprised if you are correct.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:32 PM (bDjBG)
Did Biden sign these files out and never took them back? Either way they were stolen.
Docs can be kept in a safe, or a designated safe drawer in an otherwise normal appearing file cabinet. With a log for checking them out of the secure storage box.
What a SCIF allows one to do is just leave the file open on a desk when you go home for the night. The SCIF is the "safe" box, drawer, safe, etc. I think they need not be signed out unless taken out of the SCIFM
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 23, 2023 02:32 PM (pa+NK)
Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 02:32 PM (IQtP2)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (t0OGg)
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My theory is that this is garlands revenge. He's decided to throw in with the faction that wants Biden gone after 24.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (4d+cI)
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (9X60i)
Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (AwYPR)
It just won't. Don't get your hopes up. That way only leads to bitterness and resentment. Just embrace the fact that we live in a banana republic on steroids. GMO Bananas ... think of that instead.
Posted by: Defenestratus at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (/pm7C)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Could be as much as a filing cabinet, doubt rooms or buildings though.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (bDjBG)
That's a fact Jack!! If you are within 100feet of a pre 1970s Corvette you are covered in SCIF.
My word as a Bilbo.
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (u4CEu)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 02:28 PM (4I/2K)
I just got a mental image of Mom and Professor Farnsworth from Futurama prancing around in the unmentionables.
Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Miklos, YOU FOOLS at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (6h2ty)
Any found partially flushed down a toilet?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Thatch at January 23, 2023 02:30 PM (psed3)
Fortunately for them, our public is stupid.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (GYIa4)
Meanwhile, Republicans are knives out for the president amid the growing scandal.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:34 PM (8GeFp)
And end the Democrats' suffering? Let them twist.
Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2023 02:34 PM (IyauK)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Would you touch that worn, stained girdle? Seriously?
Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 02:34 PM (IQtP2)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:34 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
I think they're all meat puppets and he was told to hit the road.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 23, 2023 02:34 PM (i0Kzs)
Please, no pictures of Jill's unmentionables.
You just know she's got a huge collection of tiny thongs and crotchless panties, because she thinks she's a hot 20 year old
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:34 PM (0hOvj)
No, they just went with the raid.“
In all fairness, panties were involved.
Posted by: 7man at January 23, 2023 02:34 PM (qwO6y)
If they let Slo Joe go, Trump will walk, because unlike Joe, he had the authority to have the documents. The documents were never hidden, and were kept under government approved security.
If they decide getting Trump is worth sacrificing Joe, they also expose alot of other Dems who played fast and loose with classified docs.
That's a door they don't want to open.
Everything else is smoke and mirrors to distract us from this.
Posted by: Iblis at January 23, 2023 02:35 PM (9221z)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 23, 2023 02:35 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (9X60i)
Write a book!
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at January 23, 2023 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:35 PM (8GeFp)
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:35 PM (eGTCV)
Addendum: I see it's already been mentioned.
https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/
1616966806635253762
https://tinyurl.com/5m9d3muj
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 23, 2023 02:35 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner
Neither GOPe nor Dems want that can of worms opened. They will use procedural stuff without opening up the unjust and illegal corruption enrichment of Biden because they are all in on doing that too. Same reason that cops bust someone who is a major drug dealer and killer for possession of weed. Much easier to prove and does not open embarrassing questions like where is the money stashed and so on.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (bDjBG)
Posted by: ... at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (3Fusu)
-- Good ol' Joe from Scranton
Syntax nuance. Maybe we should give Joey and/or KJP a Karl Rove whiteboard and they can 'clarify' by writing exactly what it is they're saying.
KJP insists she's answered these questions time and again and Joey has no regerts, so it's all another extreme rightwing conspiracy fact.
Posted by: micky at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (3byMq)
Would you touch that worn, stained girdle? Seriously?
Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 02:34 PM (IQtP2)
Trailer park trash whores usually come with one or two hidden 'gifts' that keep on giving, so no. Not going there.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)
It is too late. It will take 4 years of hearings and investigations just to get to the impeachment vote.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (8GeFp)
Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (IQtP2)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (4d+cI)
that's plausible, indeed.
Posted by: Big Guy at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: ... at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (3Fusu)
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Especially when you can manufacture votes in AZ, MI, PA, and GA at will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Oh, boy. Might be going to hell for laughing so hard at that.
Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (IyauK)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:24 PM (1EFfL)
Dear Mister Fantasy, play us a tune,
Something to make us all happy...
(Although I like Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys.)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (cEswE)
Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (FJYfm)
.......
Meet DOCTOR Jill, our newest Milf Manor contestant!
Posted by: wth at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (v0R5T)
Ugh. I did not need that mental image.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:35 PM (8GeFp)
Ah, so he's going with the "oops, my bad" defense. Nice.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Its all in the evidence locker, honest!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: blake
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The NT'ers are Democrats now so it is expected. Be more fair to call them Always Democrats.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (bDjBG)
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (eGTCV)
Yet dresses like a nursing home waiting room sofa.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)
Briar Patch, catch 22 and all that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (0LDvv)
Posted by: 7man at January 23, 2023 02:34 PM (qwO6y)
Importantly, Melania's panties were involved. Other former "first ladies" might not get that reaction.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (bDjBG)
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"That's not fair. I vote third party!"
-Jonah Goldberg
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Innocence is now a felonious act at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (YZKkM)
Its all in the evidence locker, honest!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Pretty much true.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (bDjBG)
Posted by: AnonybotymousDrivel at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (45Jbp)
Posted by: Aunt Ester at January 23, 2023 02:39 PM (og5mY)
I'm starting to think these NeverTrump are not intellectually honest or maybe even all that conservative.
Posted by: ... at January 23, 2023 02:39 PM (gLCCE)
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at January 23, 2023 02:33 PM (9X60i)
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Write a book!
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at January 23, 2023 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)
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Dr. Jill is a big earner. Being a doctor and all.
Posted by: Whoopsie Goldberg at January 23, 2023 02:39 PM (cEswE)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2023 02:39 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (VwHCD)
Posted by: LASue at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (Klscz)
We know what's been found and turned over. What we don't know?
1. What's been found and not turned over.
2. What's missing.
Those are the two questions we really need to be asking (to the extent that we care about this charade at all).
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (7B5FA)
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I don't fully support your Revolution but that Ben Franklin was a real wordsmith.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2023 02:39 PM (wtvvX)
Ernest Shackleton agrees
Posted by: 7man at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (qwO6y)
1. What's been found and not turned over.
2. What's missing.
Those are the two questions we really need to be asking (to the extent that we care about this charade at all).
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (7B5FA)
"Because F*CK YOU, that's why."
- - Merrick Garland
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (ZXbyL)
Posted by: 7man at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (qwO6y)
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Shackleton made it back alive.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (1EFfL)
However it is a distraction from something else.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (Klscz)
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She gave up her power when she stepped down as Speaker. So, good luck.
I mean, I'm rooting for Biden because nothing entertains me more than Democrats from all around the ideological sphere taking pot shots at the Democrat president. The longer this goes on, the longer I am slightly entertained.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (LvTSG)
To make sure the public gets the mis-impression that's where they were found?
Trumps docs were stored in a single, locked room only the FBI had a key to--at the prior direction of the FBI.
Biden stashed docs all over his house, from the bathroom to the garage-- not one behind a locked door.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (8dUAs)
It was the biggest applause line of the night IIRC.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2023 02:39 PM (wtvvX)
Ernest Shackleton agrees
Posted by: 7man at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (qwO6y)
The Crews of the HMS Terror and Erebus agree.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (eGTCV)
why did he get arrested? The Deep State seems like they'd protect this dude.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (Q4IgG)
Si...
Posted by: The Border at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (bs+z0)
Needs a good week long burn.
Posted by: micky at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (NpAcC)
It was the biggest applause line of the night IIRC.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (nfrXX)
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And proof that that third house was getting paid for much faster than 30 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (ZXbyL)
But BOY did she not turn out well......blech.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 02:37 PM (xhxe
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Shit Midas is too stupid to be the head of anything more complex than a game of tic-tac-toe. But the people behind Barky are smart and ruthless in destroying America and Americans.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (u4CEu)
Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (NpAcC)
Don't mind that smoke. The FBI just elected a new Pope.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Your cousin knew that Biden wasn't honorable nor a nice guy but figured electing Biden would punish the people he truly hates--conservatives.
Conservatives by and large, if able to took out their corrupt trash politicians if it was revealed. Democrats close ranks.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (bDjBG)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (7sRwU)
Posted by: wth at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (v0R5T)
Who called Ace "Lamont the Big Dummy" ?
Posted by: Sphynx at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (yRNjl)
Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2023 02:42 PM (NpAcC)
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Hahahahahaha....you really think we're not destroying the stuff we don't want publicized?
Posted by: straight shooting FBI at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: micky at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (bDjBG)
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They turned on Al Franken! Who was quickly replaced by a Democrat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (LvTSG)
Honestly, you can see how DOCTOR Jill was likely not unattractive back in the day. But those days were half a century ago.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)
From the Boston office?
Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (Klscz)
Last I checked this was being driven mostly by the D's own people: agencies and tame media outlets. Which is precisely why I think it's another op.
Posted by: CppThis at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (PZvjL)
https://tinyurl.com/mwy5nhw2
Now they are arguing we should shift away from human medical care to just medical care for all life, and not prioritize humanity over, say, rats and cockroaches.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Sphynx at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (yRNjl)
Chuy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sandra Flook at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (u4CEu)
Just kidding. Jonah will never mention the documents unless he can spin it as a Republican failure.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (S1Gwa)
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)
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threadwinner
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (1EFfL)
Just kidding. Jonah will never mention the documents unless he can spin it as a Republican failure.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (S1Gwa)
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"I told you both sides were bad. Now, we must punish Republicans and elevate Democrats to even the playing field."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (ppBhU)
https://tinyurl.com/mwy5nhw2
Now they are arguing we should shift away from human medical care to just medical care for all life, and not prioritize humanity over, say, rats and cockroaches.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (0hOvj)
So lawyers, judges, and politicians.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (S1Gwa)
We're working on it
Posted by: The Republicans at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (bs+z0)
To make sure the public gets the mis-impression that's where they were found?
Trumps docs were stored in a single, locked room only the FBI had a key to--at the prior direction of the FBI.
Biden stashed docs all over his house, from the bathroom to the garage-- not one behind a locked door.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (8dUAs)
The corvette was locked, jack!
Posted by: Brown Depends at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)
What have you heard?
Posted by: Herpes Simplex at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (yQpMk)
Could you imagine kindergarten SOTU?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (8GeFp)
Posted by: Brown Depends at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (53oGX)
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It doesn't even have a top...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: dantesed at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (193FS)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (Q4IgG)
agreed.
I've been thinking, from what?
Barky's doings? WEF? Ukes?
There's so much.
Posted by: Big Guy at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (eGTCV)
Those words don't mean the same thing to the Dems.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: 7man at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (qwO6y)
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Shackleton made it back alive.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (1EFfL)
Hey, what am I, frozen jerky?
Posted by: Robert Falcon Scott at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That is about all we can expect from national politics--entertainment from the clowns in office and obvious corruption. Bet the Biden regime wishes that the 20 GOP members in the House were still holding out on speaker now.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (bDjBG)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at January 23, 2023 02:38 PM (GYIa4)
I didn't wear any...
Posted by: Jackie Onassis at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (CCSxw)
They're all on a furious zoom call; Daily Wire, Bulwark, all of them trying to find a way to attack Trump through this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (0hOvj)
Could you imagine kindergarten SOTU?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (8GeFp)
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Mitch McConnell will punish so hard every Republican senator who doesn't applaud longest at Kamala's SOTU to protect him from accusations of racism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (t4BDZ)
Posted by: Herpes Simplex at January 23, 2023
***
I remember going to the Herpes Simplex 12 to see the latest Clint Eastwood movie. Good times.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (J2vNu)
If they let Slo Joe go, Trump will walk, because unlike Joe, he had the authority to have the documents. The documents were never hidden, and were kept under government approved security.
If they decide getting Trump is worth sacrificing Joe, they also expose alot of other Dems who played fast and loose with classified docs.
That's a door they don't want to open.
Everything else is smoke and mirrors to distract us from this.
Posted by: Iblis at January 23, 2023 02:35 PM (9221z)
I'd like to see a search of Swallowell's residence. Or even the turtle's residence.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (BdMk6)
Jill Biden has time to hide her unmentionables in her underwear drawer, unlike Melania Trump
Posted by: portlandon at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (8GeFp)
Could you imagine kindergarten SOTU?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (8GeFp)
I personally can't wait for Retard Shitpants to address both houses.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (8GeFp)
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I want to rite that speach!
Posted by: Oliver at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (1EFfL)
Super-cereal secure. No joke.
Posted by: micky at January 23, 2023 02:48 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (bDjBG)
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But that also entertained me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:48 PM (LvTSG)
Could you imagine kindergarten SOTU?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (8GeFp)
She'd bring the country to it's knees, a position she is well aquainted with.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:48 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 23, 2023 02:48 PM (D4TsQ)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (8GeFp)
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I question their conservative bonafides.
They should be insulting him at least semi-regularly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:48 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (eGTCV)
He rode the f*cking TRAIN to work, you heathen.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)
Could you imagine kindergarten SOTU?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire
........
Electricity and space and yellow school buses.
Posted by: wth at January 23, 2023 02:49 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Robert Falcon Scott at January 23, 2023 02:47 PM (wtvvX)
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No, you just tried to kill yourself with carbon monoxide poisoning.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:49 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Robert Falcon Scott at January 23, 2023 02:49 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 23, 2023 02:22 PM (N1tpc)
Six thumb drives loaded with who knows what?
Posted by: Zombie Seth Rich at January 23, 2023 02:49 PM (SYTee)
Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2023 02:49 PM (eoQWY)
Comer is officially requesting the visitor logs on Biden's homes from the secret service.
I imagine a fair number of visitors are Dementia Doctors there to administer the cognitive cocktails that Biden Inc has been trying to hide from the Public.
Posted by: portlandon at January 23, 2023 02:49 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 23, 2023 02:49 PM (7sRwU)
https://tinyurl.com/mwy5nhw2
Now they are arguing we should shift away from human medical care to just medical care for all life, and not prioritize humanity over, say, rats and cockroaches.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (0hOvj)
So lawyers, judges, and politicians.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (ynpvh)
Aren't we supposed to eat zee bugs?
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at January 23, 2023 02:50 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: Don at January 23, 2023 02:50 PM (Q7knO)
Posted by: N.Lurker
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That poncy peacock has been demonstrating his ill will and indecent behavior since he was elected to office. Doesn't say a whole lot about GOP in Delaware that they could not have unseated this pinnacle of mendacious mediocrity years ago. Tells you they were in on what Joe was doing for the big credit card banks in Delaware.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:50 PM (bDjBG)
Could you imagine kindergarten SOTU?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 02:46 PM (8GeFp)
The United States are like fifty states. That are united into one country. And that's why we call them the United States. They are also in America so we call them the United States of America.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 23, 2023 02:50 PM (eYoxG)
In part, from ValerieBidenOwens dot com/about
Chair of the Biden Institute at the University of Delaware, a partner at Owens Patrick Leadership Seminars, sits on the Advisory Board of the Beau Biden Foundation for the Protection of Children. For 20 years, when not managing or advising President Biden’s campaigns, she served as Executive Vice President of Joe Slade White & Co., a media consulting firm.
Reportedly, one kid is Director Environment Social and Governance Policy and Engagement · General Motors; another is VP, Global Growth & Development at Starbucks, and one a Cali lawyer, entertainment executive as is/was the 2nd gentleman.
Posted by: Lola at January 23, 2023 02:51 PM (p39Z2)
Six items. Senator from '73 to 2009, then VP...I'm going with
Item 1: Filing Cabinet, "Stuff I sold as a Senator in the 70's"...
Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2023 02:51 PM (xMwvg)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 23, 2023 02:50 PM (eYoxG)
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This guy gets it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:51 PM (1EFfL)
Conclusion: Very tasty combo.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2023 02:51 PM (sm3rd)
Biden stashed docs all over his house, from the bathroom to the garage-- not one behind a locked door.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2023 02:41 PM (8dUAs)
Let's not forget the Hildebeast's bathrooms and closets.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (BdMk6)
Otherwise if say Swallowell tried to sell secrets to Bang Bang, she'd just tell him 'No! Do bettah! *cracks whip* We already got that info on Nuclear Submarines from Al Gore 10 year ago! Get me info on MIRV warhead NOW! You no get me info on things that go boom- you never go boom!'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2023 02:51 PM (sm3rd)
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Put down the bong and step away from the microwave....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 23, 2023 02:22 PM (N1tpc)
Six laptops?
Posted by: Hunter Biden at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (SYTee)
The quote that stuck with me was him saying that he feels bad for the guy paying him because the second he knocks off this president, they'll be swearing in a new one.
So they take out Biden? Big whoop. The same people taking him out are the ones that installed him.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (KbCG3)
https://americandigest.org/on-gerard/
Gerard has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, and is going into hospice care.
Posted by: Jackie Onassis at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (CCSxw)
Item 1: Filing Cabinet, "Stuff I sold as a Senator in the 70's"...
Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2023 02:51 PM (xMwvg)
Did he get a receipt when he sold his soul to Satan?
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (eGTCV)
Conclusion: Very tasty combo.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2023 02:51 PM (sm3rd)
Good thing there were not beans in those soups. You don't want to cross the beans.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (ynpvh)
No argument there. Hasn't banned hisself in quite some time.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (Xrfse)
Honestly, you can see how DOCTOR Jill was likely not unattractive back in the day. But those days were half a century ago.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (nfrXX)
She must have been something before VCRs.
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023
***
Maybe someone in Oz or Narnia can. But I doubt they have any security clearances.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (CCSxw)
Six items. Senator from '73 to 2009, then VP...I'm going with
Item 1: Filing Cabinet, "Stuff I sold as a Senator in the 70's"...
Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2023 02:51 PM (xMwvg)
Or maybe a laptop...
Posted by: Robert Falcon Scott at January 23, 2023 02:53 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 23, 2023 02:53 PM (7sRwU)
"Imagine a Venn Diagram of states... I love Venn Diagrams!"
--Kamala's State of the Union Address
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:53 PM (0hOvj)
Didn't it say, "including six items consisting of documents with classified markings and surrounding materials."
That is a *huge* red flag when you're crafting legalese bullshit like this. It could be "items" containing hundreds of documents or more. We just don't know as the 'most transparent White House in history' is led by a cognitively crippled figurehead with lawyers running the show.
Posted by: InverseAgonist at January 23, 2023 02:53 PM (Qa7OO)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 02:53 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (xhxe8)
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More likely hello Kitty to get the Big Guy interested?
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (QUJEH)
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023
*
She must have been something before VCRs.
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at January 23, 2023
***
Her prom was held by lantern light. Oil lanterns. And the privy was out back.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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It is the DC version of the Grand Guignol theater.
Except, being tedious, repetitious, boring, and preachy. One could probably do well making a horror flick where our betters in office were the subject of terror.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (bDjBG)
"Imagine a Venn Diagram of states... I love Venn Diagrams!"
--Kamala's State of the Union Address
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:53 PM (0hOvj)
Dicks she's sucked, Dicks she hasn't?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (xhxe
I particularly want rid of Dr. Jill
Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (bs+z0)
he and I got along really well back when I had my blog, dang that's awful. Gerard always seemed like a decent guy and his blog was always great.Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (T4tVD)
Cheers!
Posted by: InverseAgonist at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (Qa7OO)
>>Put down the bong and step away from the microwave.
This was at the commissary of the facility I'm working at today.
They had two tureens with both of those soups, but not enough to make a whole large bowl of soup from either, so I took a chance and combined them.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (sm3rd)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (xhxe
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Joe humiliates himself in public regularly. It's the going away part which is taking way too long.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Infidel at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (ZEa+g)
Conclusion: Very tasty combo.
________
That's like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters.
Time/space continuum stuff.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (lf83v)
"Imagine a Venn Diagram of states... I love Venn Diagrams!"
--Kamala's State of the Union Address
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:53 PM (0hOvj)
Dicks she's sucked, Dicks she hasn't?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (ynpvh)
when Kamala saw the breadth of her domain she wept, for there were no more dicks to suck
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: soup Nazi at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: Sunny at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (go3dL)
Super 8. Had to send 'em off to Mexico for processing.
Posted by: Good ol' Joe from Scranton at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (nfrXX)
Got disappeared for quite a few years after the JFK assassination, though, I think.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (ZXbyL)
Conclusion: Very tasty combo.
________
That's like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters.
Time/space continuum stuff.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (lf83v)
See my comment #208...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Infidel at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (ZEa+g)
It’s taking place in real time
Posted by: 7man at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (qwO6y)
Sounds oddly perverted.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:22 PM (1EFfL)
Was there a hammer involved?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (llON8)
"Actually, Joe and I agree on some things..." and quote what Biden said about Obama while Biden was running in the 2008 Primary.
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (SYTee)
Posted by: Infidel at January 23, 2023 02:55 PM (ZEa+g)
Feb. some time
Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (bs+z0)
Got disappeared for quite a few years after the JFK assassination, though, I think.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (ZXbyL)
He was fantastic. Also helps he was opposite that piece of wood known as Sterling Hayden. Can someone explain that guy's success to me? I don't get it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Sunny at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (go3dL)
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Umm, no.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (1EFfL)
________
Consensual after it has already been determined that he broke the law.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (lf83v)
Got disappeared for quite a few years after the JFK assassination, though, I think.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Yep.
Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (XzIdt)
Posted by: Ester Obama at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (kaTkN)
Conclusion: Very tasty combo.
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You know that you just created strange matter soup. The ramifications of that in modern physics will consume the universe as we know it.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (bDjBG)
Posted by: Sunny at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (go3dL)
Ace is self-deprecating.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Jackie Onassis at January 23, 2023 02:52 PM (CCSxw)
Oy, this is sad.
Posted by: Flyover at January 23, 2023 02:58 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 02:58 PM (ZXbyL)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
Casting couch games.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:58 PM (bDjBG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2023 02:58 PM (WtAQS)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 02:58 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (XzIdt)
Yes...
What a loss!
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (CCSxw)
>>Can someone explain Lamont?
Lamont was Chico's brother, they both worked out of old man Brown's garage and boosted cars at night to sell them to auto parters some spare bread.
You dig?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (sm3rd)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (GKqIR)
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 02:58 PM (lf83v)
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You just know Joe's going to snub McCarthy in some fashion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 23, 2023 02:23 PM (N1tpc)
I'll have you know I was reading the prayer list.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 02:31 PM (Zz0t1)
I think he (???) must challenge you in a shooting match at the TXMoMee in order to claim supremacy.
...with CARDBOARD targets, you bunch of Morons.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (llON8)
I got a H/T while putting decals on the Fw 190F-9.
Thanks Ace!
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2023 02:58 PM (WtAQS)
Lamont's Pet.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (GKqIR)
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Not a fan of The Manchurian Candidate?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (LvTSG)
Wasn't it supposed to come out that year and got delayed?
Anyway, Sinatra was a consistently great actor. I remember him in a movie I saw as a teen, where he was this huge jerk who cashed in on his brother's reputation as a gunslinger: "you don't want my brother to come by do you?" Then his brother died, and enemies are coming after him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (eGTCV)
Joe or Hunter?
Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (Mz4ED)
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Odds of him abdicating by then?
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (GKqIR)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (i0Kzs)
Cuteness overload here watching this dog getting a haircut. 🤣
https://tinyurl.com/2d3k83hj
58 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (XzIdt)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (44ww/)
You just know Joe's going to snub McCarthy in some fashion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (1EFfL)
Maybe McCarthy can tear up his speech
Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (GKqIR)
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"The Man With The Golden Arm" was darn good.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: PaleRider at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (3cGpq)
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Odds of him abdicating by then?
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (GKqIR)
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0. He's not going anywhere willingly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Infidel at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (ZEa+g)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (GKqIR)
He was a jive ass turkey.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: N.Lurker
Why? Seriously, what would be the point?
Would someone painting a rosy veneer change your opinion of him?
Posted by: old chick at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (sOete)
Posted by: cosmic IRC at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (SYTee)
Sarah Palin is a lot like Kristi Noem: fine for her small, culturally and geographically remote state, but not ready for the big leagues.
Posted by: CppThis at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (PZvjL)
I think he (???) must challenge you in a shooting match at the TXMoMee in order to claim supremacy.
...with CARDBOARD targets, you bunch of Morons.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (llON8 )
Where's the fun in that? Paces with flintlocks. At dawn. It might cure my hangover.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (Mz4ED)
Joe--Hunter came by his predilections honestly.
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (eGTCV)
Tro all da bums in da clink.
Posted by: InZona at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (bfyic)
I think Man With the Golden Arm created quite the stir.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (7B5FA)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (XzIdt)
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023
*
She must have been something before VCRs.
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at January 23, 2023
***
DOCTOR Jill was looking forward to her coming-out party. But then the news of Fort Sumter came.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: blake
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And McCarthy likes to be humiliated so will probably take it with an obnoxious grin on his face.
But, McCarthy can swap bj techniques with Kamala sitting next to him on the dais so he can surprise Frank at home.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (bDjBG)
...with CARDBOARD targets, you bunch of Morons.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (llON
Gotta be Old School: Lawn Darts at twenty paces. First one to step out of the plastic ring loses.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (4I/2K)
Priorities, people!
Posted by: Denizens of Democratic Underground at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (1EFfL)
*waits for Fields' nic*
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (LvTSG)
That’s right.
Posted by: Dr Jill to you at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (qwO6y)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 02:57 PM (bDjBG)
...that may not be a bad thing, actually...
Posted by: Flyover at January 23, 2023 03:02 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: dantesed at January 23, 2023 03:02 PM (193FS)
Too butch for Kevie. Maybe he can get Eyepatch McCain to do it for him.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023 03:02 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: CppThis at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (PZvjL)
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Palin would have done fine on a national level, had the McCain machine not destroyed her.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 03:02 PM (1EFfL)
Al Pacino settled his hash, though.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 03:02 PM (ZXbyL)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:03 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Von Ryan's Express at January 23, 2023 03:03 PM (4I/2K)
Too butch for Kevie. Maybe he can get Eyepatch McCain to do it for him.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023 03:02 PM (nfrXX)
I'd rather him stand up and wipe his ass with it, TBH.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at January 23, 2023 03:03 PM (zSyrn)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 23, 2023 02:50 PM (eYoxG)
And if you all stick a fork into an electrical socket, you can feel the power of my presidency.
Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 03:03 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: dantesed at January 23, 2023 03:03 PM (193FS)
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2023 03:02 PM (nfrXX)
If I was McCarthy I would see to it that Joe had that creepy red lighting like his hate whitey speech
Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2023 03:03 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:03 PM (0hOvj)
"What kind of man shoots another man's luggage???"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)
*Elvis Presley has entered the chat*
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Difference being that when Elvis got drafted he showed up.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (GKqIR)
Posted by: Scott_T at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (2waQ7)
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I think Man With the Golden Arm created quite the stir.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023
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In 1966's The Detective, Sinatra played the original version of the character who later became John McClane in Die Hard. I've always thought that if that novel and movie had been done in 1960 or so, Sinatra would have made a fine McClane.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (lz5hY)
That's what the cell phone camera and copier/printer are for.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (7B5FA)
Posted by: Flyover
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Sounds like the beginning of a short story.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (bDjBG)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 02:58 PM (lf83v)
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I'll donate to McCarthy's next campaign if he tears up what is easily-identifiable as a Neil Kinnock speech while Biden gives the SOTU.
Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (mh2j2)
*Elvis Presley has entered the chat*
Posted by: cosmic IRC
LOL !!!
Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (T4tVD)
Al Pacino settled his hash, though.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 03:02 PM (ZXbyL)
Holy crap, I did not realize that was Hayden. Probably because he wasn't a block of wood (though he kind of turned into one).
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sid, now with Aviators at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (LJk19)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (LvTSG)
Ward Bond was awesome.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (zZu0s)
Holy shit, unless there's a SERIOUSLY FABULOUS explanation that I can't imagine, those officers need to be burned to the ground.
The guy is very slowly exiting with both his hands clearly raised and doesn't make any furtive movement at all. At least two seconds pass between the time he opens the door with his hands up and slowly exits and the shots are fired, so they can't claim he burst out of the door, surprising them.
Their story is fishy as hell too. Someone reports "shots fired" in the area, and SWAT comes out with the belief that this specific guy did the shooting and has a hostage? What information led them to that conclusion?
https://bit.ly/3ZVAJu0
Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: Thorvald at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023
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Sinatra? I know Lee Marvin (still the best) was the first to play Parker (though they renamed the character), and Robert Duvall did, and Mel Gibson. But Sinatra?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (J2vNu)
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Definitely a sock. That's just too on brand ridiculously satirical.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:06 PM (J2vNu)
Thank God he wasn't.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 03:06 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (LvTSG)
Ward Bond was awesome.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:05 PM (zZu0s)
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I watched it last night for the first time in forever, and I was all, "I know that guy! Where's John Wayne?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:06 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2023 03:06 PM (wtvvX)
That's what the cell phone camera and copier/printer are for.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (7B5FA)
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At least he didn't have a drug-and-whore addicted son who might have occasionally been short on cash ... or easily susceptible to blackmail by foreign spies.
Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (mh2j2)
I can see it, but it wouldn't have been as good.
Sinatra? I know Lee Marvin (still the best) was the first to play Parker (though they renamed the character), and Robert Duvall did, and Mel Gibson. But Sinatra?
I think maybe I was confusing him with the Die Hard story, the Detective. He did a couple in that series.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:06 PM (LvTSG)
Rio Bravo! The Quiet Man!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (zZu0s)
Thank God he wasn't.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 03:06 PM (lf83v)
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John Wayne was offered the role, too, but he turned it down.
Wayne also wrote a mean letter to Clint Eastwood after High Plains Drifter when Eastwood asked him if they could work together. Wayne hated High Plains Drifter (I suspect for a lot of the reasons he hated High Noon).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: CppThis at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (PZvjL)
There's no suspension of belief.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (mR6Gs)
So sad. One of the "good guys", IMHO.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (Xrfse)
Such an eclectic blog. He's lived a full life to be sure.
A very fine writer...thoughtful.
Can't remember how I stumbled across his blog, but I'm glad I did.
Been a lurker there for years.
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (CCSxw)
-Kammy's SOTU.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (8GeFp)
Posted by: CppThis at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (PZvjL)
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She's absolutely nothing like Kristi Noem, in any sense.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 23, 2023 03:08 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2023 02:40 PM (VwHCD)
I don't know if you've mentioned that before, but I'm sorry to hear that. Your cousin *is* an asshole.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2023 03:08 PM (llON8)
Until the Party line changes. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 03:08 PM (7B5FA)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 02:59 PM (GKqIR)
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"The Man With The Golden Arm" was darn good.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 03:00 PM (1EFfL
Von Ryan's Express was good also.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023 03:08 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 03:08 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2023 03:08 PM (Xrfse)
Thank God he wasn't.
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That would have been a disaster.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (GKqIR)
Posted by: Holden McNeil at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (mnUzy)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (LvTSG)
Yeah. High Plains Drifter is rough given the context of the times.
Oddly, given today's context... it probably is less a deconstruction than it was then.
Honestly, I am not even sure you can call it a deconstruction if you think of him as the God sending an agent to bring retribution on that town.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (zZu0s)
Yeah its even harder than with John Wayne, he was too much the star on his own apart from movies. But he does turn in some fine performances.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: CppThis at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (PZvjL)
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She's absolutely nothing like Kristi Noem, in any sense.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 23, 2023 03:08 PM (H8QX8 )
Nope Palin's tits are WAY bigger.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Al Pacino at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (7B5FA)
Wayne also wrote a mean letter to Clint Eastwood after High Plains Drifter when Eastwood asked him if they could work together. Wayne hated High Plains Drifter (I suspect for a lot of the reasons he hated High Noon).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:07 PM (LvTSG)
Ben "The Blacklist!!" Mankiewicz explained it once
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (0hOvj)
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"The Shootist."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (1EFfL)
I don't know if you've mentioned that before, but I'm sorry to hear that. Your cousin *is* an asshole.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2023 03:08 PM (llON8 )
Sometimes, you really ARE what you eat.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Blanco at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (F0+HC)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (lz5hY)
https://tinyurl.com/mwy5nhw2
Now they are arguing we should shift away from human medical care to just medical care for all life, and not prioritize humanity over, say, rats and cockroaches.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 02:44 PM (0hOvj)
So lawyers, judges, and politicians.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:45 PM (ynpvh)
You misspelled "commies".
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (llON8)
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Al Pacino at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (7B5FA)
*Robert DeNiro has entered the chat*
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (4I/2K)
Thank God he wasn't.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 03:06 PM (lf83v)
"I did it.... MY way" would've been an EPIC tag line...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (wtvvX)
Yeah I don't see it as deconstruction at all. He's not undermining the ideas of western heroes or the western as a genre. He's telling a really dark western story of retribution to a town that has gone wrong. Its not some lefty tract either.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 23, 2023 03:11 PM (Vwz3I)
Honestly, I am not even sure you can call it a deconstruction if you think of him as the God sending an agent to bring retribution on that town.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (zZu0s)
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If you squint, you could easily imagine High Plains Drifter as a sequel to an alternate version of High Noon where Gary Cooper gets murdered instead of saves himself.
In both, the townspeople are meek, terrified of violence, and acquiesce to violent men easily. That pissed Wayne off in High Noon (and why he went off and made Rio Bravo with Howard Hawks a few years later), and it probably pissed him off in High Plains Drifter. It's obvious in Wayne's mind that the men of the Old West were more like his character in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:11 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: dantesed at January 23, 2023 03:11 PM (193FS)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (zZu0s)
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Scott Pelley: And you don't know what was in those documents?
President Joe Biden: I have not asked for the specifics of those documents because I don't want to get myself in the middle of whether or not the Justice Department should move or not move on certain actions they could take. I-- I agreed I would not tell them what to do and not, in fact, engage in telling them how to prosecute or not.
Scott Pelley: When you saw the photograph of the top-secret documents laid out on the floor at Mar-a-Lago, what did you think to yourself? Looking at that image.
President Joe Biden: How that could possibly happen. How one-- anyone could be that irresponsible. And I thought What data was in there that may compromise sources and methods? By that I mean names of people who helped or th-- et cetera. And it just-- totally irresponsible.
Posted by: Gref at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (mnUzy)
.......
That house was asking for it.
Posted by: wth at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (lz5hY)
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I always loved seeing Pennick. He's got just the most distinctive look especially before he fixed his teeth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (ZXbyL)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 03:04 PM (bDjBG)
"I didn't even have my first cup of coffe that morning, when the orcs showed up in my backyard..."
Posted by: Flyover at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: SMH at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (GiAYj)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: That guy who always says... at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:11 PM (LvTSG)
Hmm, grudgingly endorsed.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (ZGrMX)
O.K., another smoking gun.
But, even caught on video and standing over the victim, you say "The trigger pulled itself."
Crazy, but you won't find a handful of Democrat Senators who will vote otherwise.
Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (j4U/Z)
In both, the townspeople are meek, terrified of violence, and acquiesce to violent men easily. That pissed Wayne off in High Noon (and why he went off and made Rio Bravo with Howard Hawks a few years later), and it probably pissed him off in High Plains Drifter. It's obvious in Wayne's mind that the men of the Old West were more like his character in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:11 PM (LvTSG)
I thought High Noon was about The Commie Witch Hunt and The Blacklist and Wayne wanted nothing to do with it
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:11 PM (LvTSG)
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I think "Open Range" is probably a pretty good read on how things would actually work. Someone shows up who shows how it can be done and the town follows.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (1EFfL)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (zZu0s)
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Ford saw Wayne not as a hero, but as an everyman. That seems like an odd thing considering his massive stature both physically and culturally, but it's why Ford gave Wayne the role he had in Stagecoach, and Ford never really changed his opinion of what Wayne represented.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (0hOvj)
Still, that's not a great reason to shoot. He didn't take a shooting stance, he didn't "point" the robot. Three officers enter the trailer later in a different video, and they've got plate carriers, helmets, and night vision goggles on. If they were out in the dark, behind cover, they were plenty safe and didn't need to immediately open fire.
Of course, I have no idea what the situation was outside. Maybe the terrain offered no cover and they weren't really in the dark. But I find that unlikely given I see the guys pulling up their nods as they enter the trailer.
https://bit.ly/409zlnV
Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023
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There were 2 *novels* that I know of about Joe Leland: The Detective, turned into the film with Sinatra and Lee Remick; and Nothing Lasts Forever, the basis (and they followed the book pretty closely!) for Die Hard. The story goes that Sinatra's contract for the first film specified that he had to be offered any other roles derived from the character or property. Of course when DH came along, it was 20+ years later, FS was too old for it, and he knew it. So I think Frank only did one Leland role. Maybe you're thinking of his private eye films as Tony Rome?
A 1962 Die Hard film with Frank would have been fascinating.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (J2vNu)
Good news:scored a dozen eggs for $2.19
Bad news: Crisco shortening was $11.99
WTF??!!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (anj39)
Posted by: SMH at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (GiAYj)
Posted by: dantesed at January 23, 2023 03:11 PM (193FS)
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Father Peter Lonergan
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (XlE1Z)
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (mR6Gs)
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That's part of it, yeah, but his most vocal objection was to the portrayal of the men who built the West as cowards.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (lz5hY)
Two things I have realized:
1. Every big name from back in the day did a Western it seems.
2. Everyone was in a Twilight Zone episode.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (KbCG3)
But, even caught on video and standing over the victim, you say "The trigger pulled itself."
Crazy, but you won't find a handful of Democrat Senators who will vote otherwise.
Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (j4U/Z)
That's right.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (4I/2K)
Waiting...waiting...
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (1EFfL)
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That's sort of what happens in Rio Bravo. Ward Bond does everything he can to whip up support before he gets murdered.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)
Alabama (17-2, 7-0 SEC) has made a steady climb since being ranked No. 20 in the preseason AP Top 25, moving into the top 10 in early December. The Crimson Tide had lopsided wins over Missouri and Vanderbilt after Darius Miles was dismissed from the team, as he faces a murder charge in a fatal shooting near campus.
Alabama coach Nate Oats reached out to Ray Lewis before the Crimson Tide played Vanderbilt last week, sharing a Bible verse suggested by the Pro Football Hall of Fame linebacker. Alabama ended up beating Vandy by 12 and rolled over Missouri by 21.
I guess Ray Lewis is now the go-to person for how to handle things when a sports figure is facing murder charges. Would be interesting to find out what Bible verse they used for their situation and what message they used it for.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: x at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (ZBPE2)
Posted by: Carleton Young at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (CCSxw)
https://tinyurl.com/mr389yb9
Posted by: SMH at January 23, 2023 03:12 PM (GiAYj)
WTF, are those boxes of Plan B?
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (0hOvj)
He looks crazy dangerous in Valance. Van Cleef is awesome.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (KbCG3)
There's no suspension of belief.
Posted by: JoeF.
Ocean's Eleven. Definitely believable as a Vegas thug.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel Lamont is the best Lamont at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (IV8Hw)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 03:10 PM (1EFfL)
The Shootist, Unforgiven, and No Country For Old Men would make a great video set.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 03:16 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at January 23, 2023 03:16 PM (mm9pv)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)
Coulda used a comma just as easily
Posted by: Oxford Comma Union at January 23, 2023 03:16 PM (CCSxw)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 23, 2023 03:16 PM (lz5hY)
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Al Pacino at January 23, 2023 03:09 PM (7B5FA)
Pfftt
Posted by: Nicholson at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (GKqIR)
Posted by: SMH at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (GiAYj)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2023 02:54 PM (ynpvh)
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She's spent her life in public service. By now, she must have serviced most of the public.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (yPXGm)
1. Every big name from back in the day did a Western it seems.
2. Everyone was in a Twilight Zone episode.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (KbCG3)
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Westerns for a very long time were cheaply produced. They were the bottom of the barrel when it came to how studios managed their productions, so a lot of talent started there.
They were consistently popular, too, which meant that spending $70,000 to produce one in 4 weeks while Ernst Lubitsch was using $600,000 to make his light romantic comedies in 10 weeks, the western very likely would make more money.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (LvTSG)
Well that was what the director and writer were doing but it did not come across at all in the movie. If you try really hard and know ahead of time you can kinda see it.
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is a deconstruction, its treating the heroic western figure (Wayne) as a self destructive loser, and the "civilized" city boy as the true hero who fixes the old west with Facts and Logic. But its still a really good movie, even if Vera Miles is way too old to play a young frontier gal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023 03:13 PM (1EFfL)
Then one could argue the same for Shane. I need to rewatch that one. I need to skip the whinnier kid parts though.
I always liked that way that movie was shot. The gun shots are explosive. The way the gun is framed it seems as if the object itself is full of peril.
Good stuff.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (zZu0s)
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Precisely.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (GKqIR)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(1EFfL) at January 23, 2023
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Von Ryan's Express was good also.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023
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The Devil at Four O'Clock (Frank w/ Spencer Tracy) has a great premise and a super title. But the movie drags and loses what suspense it has early on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (J2vNu)
I wonder where Chuck was headed?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (yezA1)
Posted by: That guy who always sings... at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 23, 2023 03:16 PM (lz5hY)
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Almost always cast as a sergeant major by Ford, he worked with almost no one else. Ford was a nepot, but he was good at what he did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Just Wondering at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (DhOHl)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (0hOvj)
Disagree completely, CRT. Wayne is the true hero of the movie and Stewart is shown to be nothing but a hot air windbag, stealing the valor of a better man.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (zZu0s)
Wolfus, Thanks!! I was trying to remember the name of those movies he did.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (yezA1)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (J2vNu)
"Welcome to the party, Jack!"
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:19 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at January 23, 2023 03:19 PM (mm9pv)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 03:19 PM (ZXbyL)
I guess Ray Lewis is now the go-to person for how to handle things when a sports figure is facing murder charges. Would be interesting to find out what Bible verse they used for their situation and what message they used it for.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 03:15 PM (Do5/p)
When you really need to figure out how to get away with murder.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)
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Airport arrests are so dramatic. I want to see the videotape.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 03:19 PM (lf83v)
>Both of these broads need to put their hair up, put on their aprons and get back in the kitchen. Amirite?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 23, 2023 03:19 PM (kaTkN)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (ZLI7S)
1. Every big name from back in the day did a Western it seems.
2. Everyone was in a Twilight Zone episode.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (KbCG3)
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3. Every big name was in an "Untouchables" episode.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (yPXGm)
But, even caught on video and standing over the victim, you say "The trigger pulled itself."
Totally believable, could happen to anyone! I recently had a very similar experience.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (w3DYt)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (0hOvj)
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I think you're misreading the movie pretty harshly. Wayne IS the hero. He's the one who kills Liberty Valance, who brings civilization to the Old West.
Jimmy Stewart gets all the credit, the bookish politician. He doesn't bring civilization to the West, Wayne does. Stewart just gets the credit.
It's a celebration of the forgotten yeoman, the everyman who actually did build the west but that biographers and newspapermen aren't interested in talking about when they can talk about the clean, politician from the East.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (LvTSG)
Here we are the last time I saw him in the flesh, at the wrap party for the OG PJ Media a bit over three years ago. [photo]
We sold the website, but we kept the Orb Of Power.
Posted at 3:10 pm by Glenn Reynolds
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (Vwz3I)
Ocean's Eleven. Definitely believable as a Vegas thug.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel Lamont is the best Lamont at January 23, 2023
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Sinatra had his serious movies like The Detective and The Man With the Golden Arm, and then he had his fun films like Guys and Dolls (really any movie he sang in) and Ocean's Eleven.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Just Wondering at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (DhOHl)
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No.
Get on outta here...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (LvTSG)
It looks like Cameron will have 3 of the 4 highest grossing films of all time.
Amazing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (sm3rd)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (zZu0s)
I think they try to set up a duality here but the fact that Stewart knows the truth and never sets the record straight shows he's not half the man Wayne was.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (KbCG3)
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Precisely.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:17 PM (GKqIR)
Felt the same when I saw the Mayhem guy in John Wick. "Hey, that's Mayhem!"
In a different way, I feel the same about Jared Leto. "Hey, there's Jared Leto. I wonder what over the top affectations he's going to have in this movie."
Posted by: Wally at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (LvTSG)
I agree with TJM.*
*gonna have to find something to wash that away
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (zZu0s)
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The key is the title. The Man Who Killed Liberty Valance.
Who killed Liberty Valance? It wasn't Jimmy Stewart. He just thought he did. Who killed Liberty Valance? It was John Wayne.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (LvTSG)
He had a long run as the boyfriend on SVU.
Posted by: Al Pacino at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (7B5FA)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (xhxe8)
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It was a story about the Wild West becoming civilized. Both characters understood their roles within the story. And, yeah, Lee Marvin steals every fucking scene.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (GKqIR)
It looks like Cameron will have 3 of the 4 highest grossing films of all time.
Amazing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (sm3rd)
Only Avatar blue lives matter.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (KbCG3)
THIS.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:22 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 02:29 PM (exHjb)
The problem for ol' Joe Stolen, is that he had possession of documents that were produced before he became POTUS. POTUS has ultimate Originating Classification Authority as one of his plenary powers; the Vice President (and Senator) does not have that power.
People that handle classified documents for a living know that Biden is full of $h!t and violating the law.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 23, 2023 03:22 PM (pJWtt)
I think they both have some nobility but while you're objectively right, that's not what the writer or the director was trying to say.
So I think Frank only did one Leland role. Maybe you're thinking of his private eye films as Tony Rome?
You may be right, I cannot quite recall at this point. Probably I was thinking of Lee Marvin as Parker. if you read the books, he basically describes Lee Marvin as the character, so its a perfect fit.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:22 PM (0hOvj)
*gonna have to find something to wash that away
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:21 PM (zZu0s)
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I also like Inland Empire.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:22 PM (LvTSG)
>>"Hey, there's Jared Leto. I wonder what over the top affectations he's going to have in this movie."
Jared Leto's best role was getting his face tuned up in Fight Club.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2023 03:22 PM (sm3rd)
Ah, of course. Perfect vacation spot.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (ZLI7S)
A veritable Garden of Eden.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 03:22 PM (4I/2K)
A Quaker woman with a shotgun.
*BOOM*
Game. Set. Match.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 03:22 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)
Search local golf courses for the real killer. Follow me for more tips to find the real killer.
Posted by: The Juice at January 23, 2023 03:22 PM (w3DYt)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (J2vNu)
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"Welcome to the party, Jack!"
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023
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Yes! We'd have lost the "Yippee-ki-yay, m-fer" line in its original form, of course, you couldn't curse in movies then. But a good screenwriter (George Axelrod, say, who adapted Manchurian) could have come up with something as good.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:23 PM (J2vNu)
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I ran into Broderick Crawford at North Hills mall in 1972. He was doing some stage thing around Raleigh. Man, he was old.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:23 PM (GKqIR)
Yeah, that's my take too. The Senator knows he's a phony.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 03:23 PM (7B5FA)
He does, finally, in old age talking to the reporter but yeah. The thing is, Stewart knows he's the lesser man, you can tell by how he acts when they come back to Shinbone. And Vera Mile's character clearly loves Wayne but settle with Stewart because he would give her a better life.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:23 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)
*cough*
Posted by: O. J. Simpson at January 23, 2023 03:24 PM (wtvvX)
1. Every big name from back in the day did a Western it seems.
2. Everyone was in a Twilight Zone episode.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (KbCG3)
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3. Every big name was in an "Untouchables" episode.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (yPXGm)
4. Every big name still alive appeared in an episode of Murder, She Wrote
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:24 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (SIPhV)
Yes. She started out wrong but like Han Solo in Star Wars, turned around to do the right thing, at the right time. She was the hero.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (ZXbyL)
*cough*
Posted by: O. J. Simpson at January 23, 2023 03:24 PM (wtvvX)
No one goes to O.J. for anything anymore. Everyone knows he's guilty and no one wants to associate themselves with him.
Ray Lewis, on the other hand........
He's using God as deflection for his crime and they're praising him for it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Or was it James Coburn? You notice you never see him and Lee Marvin together.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (7B5FA)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:23 PM (GKqIR)
He was 61 in 1972, same age I'm gonna be in 2 weeks.
Thanks
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: Dirty Frank at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (/Rqse)
Posted by: Italian Anti-Defamation League at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (8ocB+)
1. Every big name from back in the day did a Western it seems.
2. Everyone was in a Twilight Zone episode.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (KbCG3)
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3. Every big name was in an "Untouchables" episode.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (yPXGm)
4. Every big name still alive appeared in an episode of Murder, She Wrote
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:24 PM (mR6Gs)
*The Love Boat and Fantasy Island have entered the chat*
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (ZXbyL)
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Wayne tells him at the statehood convention in order to convince him to stay. Stewart, eaten up with guilt at having killed a man, is about to leave when Wayne shows up and tells him the truth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (LvTSG)
He did, until he was selected as the delegate for the territory and Wayne told him. Wayne told him because Stewart felt like he shouldn't be the delegate after murdering a man (although it was clearly self defense).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: artisanal ette at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (9qHsE)
It's left for the viewer to decide, but my take is that he knew.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (7B5FA)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:18 PM (zZu0s)
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IRL, Jimmy Stewart was a war hero. He was the first major Hollywood star to volunteer for the Army in WWII, despite being over-aged, and became a decorated bomber pilot. He rarely if ever spoke about his service. (NB: John Kerry)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (yPXGm)
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:24 PM (mR6Gs)
*The Love Boat and Fantasy Island have entered the chat*
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (4I/2K)
Also Dallas, Falcon Crest
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (mR6Gs)
Maybe I should just take today off, my brain is working like Joe Biden's.
*decides to just smile and nod*
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:23 PM (GKqIR)
He was 61 in 1972, same age I'm gonna be in 2 weeks.
Thanks
Posted by: JoeF.
It was different back then. 60 yr olds looked old back then.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel Lamont is the best Lamont at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (IV8Hw)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (ZXbyL)
No, he knew the truth all along. Remember his confrontation with Wayne at the end where Wayne gets drunk because he literally murdered Valence. He burns down the house because he feels he is now unworthy of the Girl. He essentially tells Stewart that he can handle bearing the shame because it was something that had to be done.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (yPXGm)
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We talkin' about characters in a movie, boss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Just Wondering at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (DhOHl)
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No comparison between Marvin and Coburn. Marvin fills the screen and grabs every eye. Coburn, not so much, but likeable.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (GKqIR)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (Zktzy)
Here we are the last time I saw him in the flesh, at the wrap party for the OG PJ Media a bit over three years ago. [photo]
We sold the website, but we kept the Orb Of Power.
Posted at 3:10 pm by Glenn Reynolds
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (Vwz3I)
The American Digest writer? Didn't he lose everything in the Paradise, CA wildfire? Damn, I really like him. Sorry to hear this.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (e6bHS)
Posted by: Just Wondering at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (DhOHl)
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This has everything to do with classified material being kept from the people in order for the "greater good".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:23 PM (GKqIR)
He was 61 in 1972, same age I'm gonna be in 2 weeks.
Thanks
Posted by: JoeF.
Relax. I'm gonna be 69 on Sat.
Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (ZXbyL)
Maybe I should just take today off, my brain is working like Joe Biden's.
*decides to just
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Fixed for accuracy.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel Lamont is the best Lamont at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (IV8Hw)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (yPXGm)
Indeed. He had a nice little career in the armed forces.
Posted by: Audie Murphy at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: artisanal ette at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (9qHsE)
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Gotta keep the normies entertained with bread and circuses, while the widespread genocide is going on beneath their noses.
Posted by: SMH at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (GiAYj)
Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: CppThis at January 23, 2023 03:01 PM (PZvjL)
Sarah has lost her damned mind. She stumped for the democrat grifter that took our Congressional seat in ranked choice voting. She is no longer a thing in Alaska, let alone anywhere else.
Geographically remote does not mean the end of the earth, either. We are not exactly unsophisticated rubes, as your post seems to imply. Some of us made the choice to NOT live in an overcrowded, hyper-dangerous big city, which to my mind makes us somewhat more thoughtful than the east coast liberals, but YMMV.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (okGHj)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:23 PM (GKqIR)
He was 61 in 1972, same age I'm gonna be in 2 weeks.
Thanks
Posted by: JoeF.
It was different back then. 60 yr olds looked old back then.
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Crawford looked old in 1950s.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (GKqIR)
Posted by: John Fetterman at January 23, 2023 03:29 PM (vwCZJ)
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel Lamont is the best Lamont at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (IV8Hw)
lol
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:29 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: spindrift at January 23, 2023 03:29 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: Dirty Frank at January 23, 2023 03:25 PM (/Rqse)
Helluva hotel concierge. Outstanding personal service.
Posted by: The High Plains Stranger at January 23, 2023 03:29 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:29 PM (yPXGm)
Posted by: bill in arkansas
LOL.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel Lamont is the best Lamont at January 23, 2023 03:29 PM (IV8Hw)
Posted by: Audie Murphy at January 23, 2023 03:29 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (GKqIR)
He made it to 1986
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:29 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: SMH at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (GiAYj)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (ZXbyL)
Thanks
Posted by: JoeF.
It was different back then. 60 yr olds looked old back then.
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Crawford looked old in 1950s.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (GKqIR)
Ahem.
Posted by: Wilfred Brimley at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (7wsOD)
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In two months Imma gonna be 68. BTW, being on the backside of the baby boom wave really sucks.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (GKqIR)
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Marvin was perfect, and the adaptation of the first Parker novel, Point Blank, is one of the toughest crime films of the '60s.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (J2vNu)
>It looks like Cameron will have 3 of the 4 highest grossing films of all time.
An angry Hollywood accountant has just assured me that everything is on the up-and-up.
I want Tarantino to make the WW2 movie in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (44ww/)
1. Every big name from back in the day did a Western it seems.
2. Everyone was in a Twilight Zone episode.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2023 03:14 PM (KbCG3)
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3. Every big name was in an "Untouchables" episode.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:20 PM (yPXGm)
4. Every big name still alive appeared in an episode of Murder, She Wrote
Posted by: JoeF. at January 23, 2023 03:24 PM (mR6Gs)
Every big-name star will eventually die.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (J2vNu)
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John Boorman, man...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (xhxe8)
He does, finally, in old age talking to the reporter but yeah. The thing is, Stewart knows he's the lesser man, you can tell by how he acts when they come back to Shinbone.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
It's been awhile since I've watched it, but doesn't the reporter look at Stewart with contempt near the end of the story? I remember it as him realizing that Stewart's an abject piece of shit, but going with the legend anyway.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (n+4am)
And I'm not even mentioning the game-stopping (AFAIK) point that a president is the ultimate declassification authority, and Trump (or any other prez) can (in this case did) declassify a document, period. So the only issue engaged are the two (or just one) of the laws governing official government documents.
And on a separate issue, since the Sorenson thing is part of the post, note that in the mid-90s, a CIA director taking his work laptop home was sufficient scandal to force his resignation. Different country, obviously.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2023 03:31 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Just Wondering at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (DhOHl)
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This has everything to do with classified material being kept from the people in order for the "greater good".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:27 PM (LvTSG)
The Greater Good!
Posted by: The Neighborhood Watch Alliance, Sanford at January 23, 2023 03:31 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:26 PM (yPXGm)
Indeed. He had a nice little career in the armed forces.
Posted by: Audie Murphy at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (zZu0s)
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Both were heroes. Unlike the worthless scum that infest Hollywood today.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:31 PM (yPXGm)
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In two months Imma gonna be 68. BTW, being on the backside of the baby boom wave really sucks.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 03:30 PM (GKqIR)
You kids get off my lawn!
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023 03:32 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2023 03:31 PM (yPXGm)
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John Wayne sat out the war, and John Ford let him have shit for it for the rest of his life because Ford did go to war, as a filmmaker, of course.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 03:32 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Audie Murphy at January 23, 2023 03:28 PM (zZu0s)
Retired from the Air Force Reserves as a BG. Not too shabby.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 23, 2023 03:32 PM (WhP3q)
Posted by: Just Wondering at January 23, 2023 03:33 PM (DhOHl)
Posted by: Barry at January 23, 2023 03:33 PM (c3GOH)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 23, 2023 03:22 PM (pJWtt)
Check the diaper; he is NOT full of shit any more.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at January 23, 2023 03:34 PM (okGHj)
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Crawford looked old in 1950s.
Posted by: Puddinhead
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All they had was penicillin and aspirin. If you had something worse than the clap or a headache you were SOL.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at January 23, 2023 03:35 PM (Zktzy)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at January 23, 2023 03:38 PM (Zktzy)
Posted by: Prickly Pete Salmonella at January 23, 2023 04:18 PM (dFG8E)
But will we? No.
Posted by: OneChinaPoricy at January 23, 2023 04:58 PM (tUfjF)
Not even the most hardened FBI agents have the stomach to go through Jill Biden’s clothes and unmentionables. And they know it.
Posted by: Dummy #43 at January 23, 2023 05:33 PM (U2W4Y)
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