THE MORNING RANT: Punching Back Against ICE Vehicle Bans; Yes They’re Coming for Your Gas Stove; A “Conservative” Thinker Is Perplexed By Empty Grocery Shelves

Punching Back Against the Gas-Powered Vehicle Bans

Bravo to the Wyoming lawmakers who introduced legislation to phase out electric vehicles in their state by 2035. It’s a brilliant move to highlight the fact that freedom-lovers must push back as blue states and the federal government roll out bans on gas-powered cars, which are the engine of freedom.

In fact, this Wyoming legislative action is pretty much what I proposed back in 2021.

To Counter Blue State EV Mandates, Red States Need to Start Mandating Gas-Powered Cars [Buck Throckmorton at AOSHQ – 9/27/2021]

It is imperative that Texas, other oil-patch states, and all freedom-loving states (hello Florida) start fighting back. If New York can pass a law mandating that 100% of all new vehicle sales are EVs, then Texas (and Florida, and Tennessee, and Louisiana, etc) can pass laws mandating that no less than xx% - let’s say 90% hypothetically - of all new vehicle sales in their states must be gas-powered vehicles.

The Wyoming legislation is not likely to get passed into law, but it is receiving extensive media coverage.

Wyoming Lawmakers Say They Got What They Wanted With Proposal to Ban EVs [ The Hill – 01/17/2023]

State Sen. Ed Cooper (R), a co-sponsor of the resolution, said in a phone interview that the resolution is meant to show that a ban on gas-powered vehicles is an “assault” on Wyoming’s oil industries and their way of life. He said sponsors got what they wanted by provoking a national conversation about bans on gas-powered vehicles, and that an actual ban on electric vehicles would be “ludicrous.”

“I think the thought of an electric vehicle ban is truly completely ludicrous, but it’s no more ludicrous than a ban on gasoline powered vehicles,” he said.

That is pretty much what I said too. ”In a sane world, consumers in every state would have the freedom of choice to buy whatever types of cars they want. But sanity has been lost, so a mandate to sell gas-powered cars in red states is necessary to ensure that consumers will still have the choice to buy something other than EVs.

But if this new “national conversation” doesn’t get the left to back down on their efforts to ban gasoline-powered vehicles, then we need to ban their precious electric vehicles. They picked this fight. Let them play by their own rules and suffer the consequences.

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Yes, They’re Coming for Your Gas Stove

Speaking of the left’s obsession with banning gas-burning consumer goods, there has not been a “walk back” from the left about their desire to ban gas stoves.

After Richard Trumka (Consumer Product Safety Commissioner) proposed a ban on gas stoves, there was the expected outcry from normal Americans, followed by Trumka’s “walk back,” followed by much celebration among the gullible that we had successfully pushed back and that our gas stoves were saved!

Consumer Safety Commission Walks Back Gas-Stove Threat amid Backlash [National Review – 01/11/2023]

No, our gas stoves are not safe. This was the left’s initial salvo to let us know that the process has started that will lead to a prohibition on gas stoves. When new gas stoves are banned by bureaucratic decree in a year or two, we will have been softened up and we won’t even be surprised. After that will come the hard deadline to replace all existing gas stoves, along with a federal assistance program of course.

Our awful media is doing its usual self-contradictory work on behalf of the left, simultaneously arguing that no one is coming for our stoves, while also supporting the proposed ban. Oilfield Rando captured it perfectly, as he so often does.

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Erick Erickson Ponders Empty Shelves

I’m not going to beat up on Erick Erickson for his transition from Christian conservative to “police-the-right” scold, I’m going to beat up on those of us on the right who ever thought he had any intellectual heft.

This tweet almost makes me sad in its childish ignorance of economics.

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“… so far removed from Covid.”

I’m embarrassed for Mr. Erickson and I’m embarrassed that he ever had any pull in the conservative movement.

Jesse Kelly, a brilliant man who takes immense pride in being a community college dropout, predicted back in spring of 2020 exactly what Mr. Erickson is puzzled about now.

You can’t just cut off “the invisible hand” of economic activity with a lockdown, then allow municipal officials to shut down “nonessential businesses”, then pay millions of people not to work, then attack the fossil fuel industry which provides fertilizer and transportation, and then say, “OK, let’s turn the economy back on,” and then expect shelves to magically be full again.

The functioning economy that was destroyed by our best and brightest had developed over many years to provide services, supplies, labor, transportation, etc at the wages and prices that would keep it all functioning.

Many years of economic evolution led to the bounty of pre-Covid lockdowns. No person could ever design or command the economy to function as it did, but destructive, ignorant politicians had the power to quickly destroy it. And they did.

Communists and Covidians think that shelves get filled when politicians give the command to allow it. So does Mr. Erickson, who is deeply puzzled why the shelves are empty despite our Covidian leaders giving the OK for economic activity to resume again after they had destroyed the economy.

It’s distressing, but shelves are often empty now because the golden goose of free market capitalism was killed by the Covid response. If government stays out of the way, and stops paying people not to work, and stops punishing farming and transportation, etc, etc, the shelves will eventually be full again. Eventually.

But golden geese take a long time to evolve.

(buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com)

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




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1 First!

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:00 AM (IV8Hw)

2 Whoa

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 11:00 AM (Do5/p)

3 Yeet

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 11:01 AM (PNCm+)

4 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:01 AM (IV8Hw)

5 Top Ten!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2023 11:01 AM (anj39)

6 While you're at it, ban "synthetic meat" too.

Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2023 11:02 AM (AwYPR)

7 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:02 AM (9gDA7)

8 I culled the otters.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 11:02 AM (ZXbyL)

9 There coming for your gas stove
No we are not
Gas stoves are causing Suddenly Dead
No that's Fake Vax
No it's gas

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2023 11:03 AM (Nh0e/)

10 Wal Mart 18 count XL eggs - $9.84 yesterday.

Big gaps on shelving units where products should be.

Most than simply explaining we've been busy. Our WM is not 24 hours. They have a stocking crew that works overnight. They just don't have product.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:03 AM (IV8Hw)

11 Bravo to the Wyoming lawmakers who introduced legislation to phase out electric vehicles in their state by 2035. It’s a brilliant move to highlight the fact that freedom-lovers must push back as blue states and the federal government roll out bans on gas-powered cars, which are the engine of freedom.

How exactly will this matter at all when federal CAFE regulations (and massive fines that come with them if regulations not met for CO2 emissions and average MPG targets) are what drive all automotive company decisions. Unless Wyoming and other states are going to change CAFE standards, these state laws are meaningless.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 11:03 AM (Do5/p)

12 Maybe Erick Erickson can do something productive, like stop shouting his ignorance and help my daughter find some baby formula.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2023 11:03 AM (Kb1IC)

13 Synthetic meat?

Posted by: Impossible at January 23, 2023 11:03 AM (DhOHl)

14 How about this:

Give people the freedom to innovate and create and explore. If their products are viable and cost effective, there is no other incentive needed to purchase them. They will succeed on merit.

Or not.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 11:04 AM (PNCm+)

15 It’s distressing, but shelves are often empty now because the golden goose of free market capitalism was killed by the Covid response. If government stays out of the way, and stops paying people not to work, and stops punishing farming and transportation, etc, etc, the shelves will eventually be full again. Eventually.

But golden geese take a long time to evolve.


Well said Buck.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2023 11:04 AM (anj39)

16 Synthetic meat?

Posted by: Impossible at January 23, 2023 11:03 AM (DhOHl)

Dildoes exempted.

Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2023 11:05 AM (AwYPR)

17 10 Maybe they aren’t restocking those shelves because they were installed by Ace, and are therefore unstable.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 11:05 AM (ZXbyL)

18 How about this:

Give people the freedom to innovate and create and explore. If their products are viable and cost effective, there is no other incentive needed to purchase them. They will succeed on merit.

Or not.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 11:04 AM (PNCm+)

That's crazy talk.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 11:05 AM (4I/2K)

19 And as I said the other day, states can mandate ICE vehicles all they want. When automakers are no longer making ICE vehicles, the mandates will only serve to punish the citizens of the state who will be unable to buy any new ICE vehicles and will be forced to try to keep old ICE vehicles running longer. Or not be able to drive at all if they cannot keep their ICE vehicles operational.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 11:05 AM (Do5/p)

20 But if this new “national conversation” doesn’t get the left to back down on their efforts to ban gasoline-powered vehicles, then we need to ban their precious electric vehicles. They picked this fight. Let them play by their own rules and suffer the consequences.
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It won't. Wyoming is a powerless backwater in American politics. It's a real, old-fashioned frontier kind of place and what they do will have no bearing on national policy. It won't be a "national conversation" except for the "national" side of it in the press and other propaganda organs making fun of Wyoming for being so backwards. It will have no bearing on what the big states do.

It might not even have bearing on what Wyoming does. There is no shortage of judges or other operators who will happily declare that WY's action (if it passes) is illegal, but phasing ICE cars is not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)

21 Synthetic meat?
Posted by: Impossible
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See: Soy Milk

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (oo0rP)

22 Yeet
Posted by: nurse ratched

Yoot

Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (T4tVD)

23 Your coming for the gas stoves.
No we're not.
Yes you are.
No we are not!
Yes Huh!
No Huh!
I'm telling!
Mom!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (anj39)

24 What we really need is for Guy Fieri to come out and tell the government to f*ck off with it's ban on gas stoves.

That will fix everything.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (9gDA7)

25 They will succeed on merit.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 11:04 AM (PNCm+)

Well, see...Equity!

Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (AwYPR)

26 "If government stays out of the way,"

Pretty much all big business in the USA is conducted thru carve-outs, subsidies, tax rate bribes and schemes, zoning, legal dodges, and outright bribery. It's been like that since forever. We've never experienced the golden goose of free market capitalism.

Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (24fqN)

27 Yeet
Posted by: nurse ratched

Yoot
Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (T4tVD)

Moop

Posted by: George Costanza at January 23, 2023 11:07 AM (4I/2K)

28 Our awful media is doing its usual self-contradictory work on behalf of the left, simultaneously arguing that no one is coming for our stoves, while also supporting the proposed ban. Oilfield Rando captured it perfectly, as he so often does.
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WaPo and the other big writing rooms aren't *that* big. They don't care about contradictory reporting.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 11:07 AM (t0OGg)

29 You can’t just cut off “the invisible hand” of economic activity with a lockdown, then allow municipal officials to shut down “nonessential businesses”, then pay millions of people not to work, then attack the fossil fuel industry which provides fertilizer and transportation, and then say, “OK, let’s turn the economy back on,” and then expect shelves to magically be full again.

But my political science professor, Kweegle Starbloom (they/them), said that all that was needed was a strong hand at the tiller of the State... that the proles needed to be shown their place.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at January 23, 2023 11:07 AM (GYIa4)

30 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 11:08 AM (T4tVD)

31 I always press the lever on the toilet and then the poop magically is gone. But today I used too much TP and the poop is still there. I don't understand why, since we are post-COVID now.

Posted by: Erick "Einstein" Erickson at January 23, 2023 11:08 AM (Mz4ED)

32 EE has always been a doofus from what I have read. Wasn't there something just a few days ago where he found a nut?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 11:08 AM (zZu0s)

33 Yeet
Posted by: nurse ratched

Yoot
Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (T4tVD)

Moop
Posted by: George Costanza

Okay; that was funny,

Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 11:09 AM (T4tVD)

34 Why are you saying there are shortages? This economy is GANGBUSTERS, fat.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:09 AM (9gDA7)

35 They just don't have product.

Was going to switch to Walmart pharmacy but they admitted they don't have even some common prescription meds. Backordered till who knows when.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at January 23, 2023 11:09 AM (S8hJY)

36 Interesting: Charles McGonigal, the FBI agent in charge of counterintelligence for their NYC office, has been arrested for working for Russia.

He was the first agent to start stirring up the Russian collusion hoax in a major way at the FBI. *Everything* is projection.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:10 AM (ZGrMX)

37 They're not coming for your gas stove just like they only want marriage for homosexuals.

Love is love.

Blasphemy is eternal.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:10 AM (9gDA7)

38 Erickson should just shorten his entire thesis to simply "derp".

Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 11:10 AM (Mz4ED)

39 Hi JT!
How's the birdbath?

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 11:10 AM (UUBIv)

40 "Stripped of all its covering, the naked question is, whether ours is a federal or consolidated government; a constitutional or absolute one; a government resting solidly on the basis of the sovereignty of the States, or on the unrestrained will of a majority; a form of government, as in all other unlimited ones, in which injustice, violence, and force must ultimately prevail."

Posted by: John C. Calhoun at January 23, 2023 11:10 AM (oeYLT)

41 Yoot
Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (T4tVD)

What is a yoot?

Posted by: Judge Chamberlain Haller at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (4I/2K)

42 You notice how everything the left wants is a ban on something or other? Always taking something away, never offering up an attractive alternative.

Because they can't.

They can fuck right off.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)

43 But if this new “national conversation” doesn’t get the left to back down on their efforts to ban gasoline-powered vehicles, then we need to ban their precious electric vehicles. They picked this fight. Let them play by their own rules and suffer the consequences.

Again, the left is already defacto banning ICE vehicles through ridiculous CAFE standards for CO2 emissions and average mpg targets. They don't need an outright ban. They are banning them without calling it a ban through regulation and massive fines. The biggest of them are set to start in 2025. Which is why all automakers' programs right now are for EVs. And my company has a corporate plan for 50% EV by 2030. Because you have to plan 5 years ahead for development and production of vehicles. Program I am working on now is 26.5MY (model year).

"We're not mandating 'vaccines', you just can't enter any business in the world or travel on any public or private transportation unless you're 'vaccinated'. So not a mandate!"

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (Do5/p)

44 followed by much celebration among the gullible that we had successfully pushed back and that our gas stoves were saved!

Consumer Safety Commission Walks Back Gas-Stove Threat amid Backlash (National Review --01/11/2023)


National Review is not "gullible". They are just putting up a smokescreen until a ban is passed. Then they will just say "Oh well. Not the hill to die on. Followed by an article: 'Why Electric Stoves Are Better, You Rubes!'"

Posted by: Chuck C at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (xttsV)

45 And as I said the other day, states can mandate ICE vehicles all they want. When automakers are no longer making ICE vehicles, the mandates will only serve to punish the citizens of the state who will be unable to buy any new ICE vehicles and will be forced to try to keep old ICE vehicles running longer. Or not be able to drive at all if they cannot keep their ICE vehicles operational.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 11:05 AM (Do5/p)


I'm thinking you didn't read beyond the first paragraph.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (GYIa4)

46 The shortages at my local Fred Meyer (Kroger) are interesting.
Every week it is something new. The baby formula is under lock and key with a ration of two per customer.
Last week it was cold medicines for both adults and kids. The week before it was cereal. Before that it as flour.
(One thing they always have is Kroger brand ice cream. No one buys that crap.)
I was thinking it was just due to a shortage of workers to keep the shelves stocked. But now, I agree with Buck. It runs deeper than that. And it isn't going away.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (anj39)

47 Walk me to 270 without PA, MI, or AZ.

Because those states are gone.

You can't get there.

Posted by: Do you have a Plan B? at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (JNPgJ)

48 The red states need to pass legislation imposing a 150% tax on all EVs. A registration fee for all EV charging stations would also be fun.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (gf7Ez)

49 Freedom is not needing a LAW, lol. How dumb are you?

Posted by: Fisht at January 23, 2023 11:12 AM (ZRarh)

50 Erickson is just doing his job, running interference for ConInc.

"oh, how could any of us have known our support for the corrupt regime might result in more pain for its hapless subject classes? Golly gosh & darn."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2023 11:12 AM (oINRc)

51 Tow trucks will always be using ICEs for towing the EVs that ran out of juice.

Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 11:12 AM (Mz4ED)

52 You can’t just cut off “the invisible hand” of economic activity with a lockdown, then allow municipal officials to shut down “nonessential businesses”, then pay millions of people not to work, then attack the fossil fuel industry which provides fertilizer and transportation, and then say, “OK, let’s turn the economy back on,” and then expect shelves to magically be full again.
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COVID is a part of it and 2020 was a revolutionary year. The debt is larded up and the globalist system is beginning to fracture. We've spent 40 years building that globalist system, and we are dependent on its inputs. A stoppage in China or reduced output in Germany or export controls in Indonesia have tremendous consequences and they cascade through the highly efficient but also very brittle system. The longer the supply chain, the worse off you are.

The realignment back to regionalism - which I do think is going on - is going to be brutal. That inflation we deferred through globalization is back and will be back for some time. The supply chains we outsourced for thirty years will have to be remade. The Postwar order is ending.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (t0OGg)

53 This tweet almost makes me sad in its childish ignorance of economics.

Somebody tell me commenters scorched that fat pantload into a heap of ashes over his imbecility. Lie to me if you have to.

I was at the grocery store yesterday and the cereal aisle was so decimated that there were barely enough boxes to fill a single row.

That poor man's Jonah Goldberg is proof positive that some people are so utterly stupid that the sharpest thing they should be allowed to handle is a rubber ball.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (AW0uW)

54 Or not be able to drive at all if they cannot keep their ICE vehicles operational.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: the actual goal is the elimination of private car ownership for those outside of the elite class. Going on about the specific details of ICE or EVs is beside the point.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (ZGrMX)

55 You notice how everything the left wants is a ban on something or other? Always taking something away, never offering up an attractive alternative.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)


That hurts. -- the crickets

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (GYIa4)

56 You know, no matter where I have lived, I have never had a gas stove. Have nothing against them, just saying.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (zZu0s)

57 50 Erickson is just doing his job, running interference for ConInc.

"oh, how could any of us have known our support for the corrupt regime might result in more pain for its hapless subject classes? Golly gosh & darn."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2023 11:12 AM (oINRc)

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"Listen to our next harangue about how your chosen hill isn't worth fighting for, though. That one will definitely be right or you're the real racist."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (LvTSG)

58 His name is Erick Erick, son.

Makes him a douche.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (9gDA7)

59 42 You notice how everything the left wants is a ban on something or other? Always taking something away, never offering up an attractive alternative.

Because they can't.

They can fuck right off.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)

They are intent on denying resources to their enemies. But the GOP does it too. It's just that ppl like us are the enemies of both.

They provide many resources to their own side.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (1ais2)

60 Oh?

@NameRedacted247

WOW

Former Special Agent In Charge Of The New York FBI Counterintelligence Division Charged With Violating U.S. Sanctions On Russia by agreeing to provide services to Oleg Deripaska

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (ZLI7S)

61 How will I bake my quiche?

Posted by: David French at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (D25PY)

62 Like that character name in the book "Catch 22."

Major Major Major Major.

Also douche.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:14 AM (9gDA7)

63 I've said it before, I'll say it again: the actual goal is the elimination of private car ownership for those outside of the elite class. Going on about the specific details of ICE or EVs is beside the point.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (ZGrMX)

They love the idea of throngs of people using mass transit.

OTHER people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 11:14 AM (zZu0s)

64 The red states need to pass legislation imposing a 150% tax on all EVs. A registration fee for all EV charging stations would also be fun.
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (gf7Ez)

Re-purpose old timey parking meters and convert the charging stations to a coin operated, pay in advance basis. Nickels, dimes, and quarters only.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 11:14 AM (4I/2K)

65 ... Last week it was cold medicines for both adults and kids. The week before it was cereal. Before that it as flour. ...
Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2023 11:11 AM (anj39)
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I had to ask for help finding cough syrup at my local Wal-Mart yesterday. I walked right past the various displays because they were mostly empty and I filtered them out. They did have some, but not much of it. Most of the shelves in that section were bare.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 11:15 AM (t0OGg)

66 60 Oh?

@NameRedacted247

WOW

Former Special Agent In Charge Of The New York FBI Counterintelligence Division Charged With Violating U.S. Sanctions On Russia by agreeing to provide services to Oleg Deripaska
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (ZLI7S)

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Our elite having no loyalty to America was a curious decision.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:15 AM (LvTSG)

67 When automakers are no longer making ICE vehicles, the mandates will only serve to punish the citizens of the state who will be unable to buy any new ICE vehicles and will be forced to try to keep old ICE vehicles running longer. Or not be able to drive at all if they cannot keep their ICE vehicles operational.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 11:05 AM (Do5/p)


Which is exactly what they want. And it is what they will get. Nobody on the left or right wants to stop tyranny; they only want to be in charge of the whip.

And people still want to hold on to the fantasy that 'voting' means anything.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 23, 2023 11:15 AM (AW0uW)

68 There is probably a handful of semi-intelligent folks in the gub'mint who realized that the natural gas infrastructures in the 3rd world blue cites are a disaster waiting to happen and thought "well lets just ban gas appliances, electric lines don't blow up and take out entire city blocks" That is the childish level of thinking the ones that are not pure evil are capable of.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 23, 2023 11:15 AM (3cGpq)

69 To paraphrase Milton Friedman:

If you put a government agency in charge of the Sahara Desert, pretty soon, you'll have a shortage of sand.


Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 11:15 AM (gmo/4)

70 They love the idea of throngs of people using mass transit.

OTHER people.


Mass transit and also those battery-powered scooters that now infest major cities.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:15 AM (ZGrMX)

71 Hi JT!
How's the birdbath?
Posted by: nurse ratched

FULL ! Not frozen.

Posted by: JT at January 23, 2023 11:15 AM (T4tVD)

72 It is long past time to remove the special exemption that CARB has for California (and the cuck states that follow CA).

Letting leftist zealots set what in effect becomes national policy is insane.

The restriction on older diesel trucks will cause a lot of problems for transportation from the ports to the rest of the nation.

Posted by: JJ at January 23, 2023 11:16 AM (C9ZVc)

73
I've said it before, I'll say it again: the actual goal is the elimination of private car ownership for those outside of the elite class. Going on about the specific details of ICE or EVs is beside the point.
Posted by: Ian S.
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This. It is actually about Freedom.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 23, 2023 11:16 AM (qlgfj)

74 Ericksons job is to keep the GOP apparatchiks in DC motivated and confident.

His audience is miniscule if even existent outside DC.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:16 AM (1ais2)

75 Erickson isn't as terrible as Jonah or sugar tits Tom, but he's very close to over passing both of those leftist clowns.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2023 11:16 AM (VWp7G)

76 When automakers are no longer making ICE vehicles, the mandates will only serve to punish the citizens of the state who will be unable to buy any new ICE vehicles and will be forced to try to keep old ICE vehicles running longer.


Welcome Citizen! '57 Chevy in Havana

Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 11:17 AM (gmo/4)

77 Former Special Agent In Charge Of The New York FBI Counterintelligence Division Charged With Violating U.S. Sanctions On Russia by agreeing to provide services to Oleg Deripaska

As I noted in comment 36, this guy was ground zero for the Russian collusion hoax. Everything is projection.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:17 AM (ZGrMX)

78 Re-purpose old timey parking meters and convert the charging stations to a coin operated, pay in advance basis. Nickels, dimes, and quarters only.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2023 11:14 AM (4I/2K)

No, no, no....they'll operate on "social credit" only.

Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2023 11:17 AM (AwYPR)

79 Let's remake Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy except that everyone at the top of the Circus is a mole and George Smiley gets brutally murdered within the first five minutes because everyone knows it already and wants to keep it that way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:17 AM (LvTSG)

80 Tow trucks will always be using ICEs for towing the EVs that ran out of juice.
Posted by: Roy


After every hurricane, those throngs of electric company boom trucks from all over the country that are pre-staged just outside of the hurricane's path?

Not ONE IS AN EV.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:18 AM (IV8Hw)

81 >>Our elite having no loyalty to America was a curious decision.

Not to mention a senior FBI agent being arrested for colluding with one of Putin's favorite oligarchs that the same FBI tried to tie to Team Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)

82 The restriction on older diesel trucks will cause a lot of problems for transportation from the ports to the rest of the nation.
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Joey Choo Choo likes trains.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:19 AM (GKqIR)

83 82 The restriction on older diesel trucks will cause a lot of problems for transportation from the ports to the rest of the nation.
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Joey Choo Choo likes trains.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:19 AM (GKqIR)

=========

"So did Ayn Rand. Joe Biden is an Objectivist cultist, and we must be rid of him!"
-The NYT, tomorrow, probably

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:19 AM (LvTSG)

84 There are too many laws and regulations.

There, I said it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 11:19 AM (XvPQV)

85 When automakers are no longer making ICE vehicles, the mandates will only serve to punish the citizens of the state who will be unable to buy any new ICE vehicles and will be forced to try to keep old ICE vehicles running longer.


Until those states no longer allow the vehicle to be registered.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:19 AM (IV8Hw)

86 84 There are too many laws and regulations.

There, I said it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 11:19 AM (XvPQV)

=======

That's an insurrection.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:20 AM (LvTSG)

87 They love the idea of throngs of people using mass transit.

OTHER people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 11:14 AM (zZu0s)


Ever see Metropolis? Above ground, a wonderful city filled with gilded youths enjoying life and love.

Below ground, a massive army of downtrodden, faceless, uniformed drones operating - without protest - the machines that allow the elite their lives.

You will work and I will play. Resist and die.

That is the message from every elitist bastard in the world. And I guarantee you over 70% of the drones in this country will be glad to submit.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 23, 2023 11:20 AM (AW0uW)

88 Happy New Year, Kam Fong as Chin Ho!

Posted by: Bite My Clank! at January 23, 2023 11:20 AM (8ocB+)

89 Deripaska isn't Putin's guy btw.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (1ais2)

90 Tow trucks will always be using ICEs for towing the EVs that ran out of juice.
Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 11:12 AM (Mz4ED)



Not in your friendly neighborhood 15 minute city.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (9gDA7)

91 >>As I noted in comment 36, this guy was ground zero for the Russian collusion hoax. Everything is projection

And during the Russia hoax Deripaska's US lawyer who was also representing Christopher Steele was secretly communicating with Senator Mark Warner.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (ZLI7S)

92 Another great Segall movie review from Space Ice

C'mon man. What kind of spelling is that? You've seen my name on the marquee! Giant letters!!

Posted by: Steven Seagal at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (h5TKJ)

93 These days we're more being screwed by Biden's invisible dick.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (FVME7)

94 Heh. So the ARNP I support bought a VW EV last week. She went on a road trip to the coast over the weekend.

She's stranded out there and had to call out sick today.

I'm a bitch for laughing. But, I'm laughing.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (QLpfE)

95 I hate to tell the Utopians that power lines are easily interrupted. Should be fun when NYC is in the dark for a few days.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (GKqIR)

96 That's an insurrection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:20 AM (LvTSG)

Welp. Might as well buy that pistol brace then.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (XvPQV)

97 The only answer is nuclear cars.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (GKqIR)

98 This. It is actually about Freedom.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 23, 2023 11:16 AM (qlgfj)

Lileks has a lot of car culture Americana up on his site. Hotels, Motels. What I found fascinating was a restaurant that had been built overlooking the freeway. It was like an overpass restaurant with big glass windows that looked out over the road. For some reason, it seemed so captivating and interesting.

I love the idea of the 50s more than I probably would have enjoyed the reality, but damn, does it look wonderful from here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (zZu0s)

99 The "nudging" towards EV's is to control the general population's ability to move about at will. One, we know the electric infrastructure can't handle it. Two, the range on EV's is miserable. Three, not everyone will or can afford one... let alone be able to afford charging one.

A mobile society is difficult to subjugate.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (Q4IgG)

100 Sweetensour as Soysauce.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (FVME7)

101 You will work and I will play. Resist and die.



If I'm going to die, you are coming with me.

I have nothing to lose.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (IV8Hw)

102 I was at the grocery store yesterday and the cereal aisle was so decimated that there were barely enough boxes to fill a single row.

That poor man's Jonah Goldberg is proof positive that some people are so utterly stupid that the sharpest thing they should be allowed to handle is a rubber ball.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 23, 2023 11:13 AM (AW0uW)

Meanwhile, our Shoprites, and Stop and Shops cereal isles are fully stocked and many are actually on sale this week. Especially at the Shoprite supermarkets. So what's going on in your area?

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (Zvtjl)

103 >>>Not to mention a senior FBI agent being arrested for colluding with one of Putin's favorite oligarchs that the same FBI tried to tie to Team Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw


it's why pencils have erasers - The FBI

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2023 11:23 AM (VWp7G)

104 97 The only answer is nuclear cars.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (GKqIR)

THIS. And Project ORION.

Big Balls Civilization ideas.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 11:23 AM (zZu0s)

105 He said sponsors got what they wanted by provoking a national conversation about bans on gas-powered vehicles, and that an actual ban on electric vehicles would be “ludicrous.”

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Theater, in other words, accomplishing nothing and with the intention of accomplishing nothing.

Meanwhile there is an actual ban on gas powered vehicles occurring. Very much NOT theater. Actual real life.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:23 AM (jzkRn)

106 did anyone actually take EE seriously?
who wasn't paid to, that is?

I always saw him as a shifty pisher, at best ... a lightweight, compared to whom cottonwood fluff possessed gravitas.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 23, 2023 11:23 AM (XzIdt)

107 The only answer is nuclear cars.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (GKqIR)

Yup!

Posted by: Doc Brown at January 23, 2023 11:23 AM (4I/2K)

108 I hate to tell the Utopians that power lines are easily interrupted.

That's the entire point of moving people to EVs. First you restrict their movement by turning off the juice, then you eliminate cars entirely because they just aren't practical. The elites will still have their cars though.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:23 AM (ZGrMX)

109
She's stranded out there and had to call out sick today.

I'm a bitch for laughing. But, I'm laughing.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (QLpfE)



Guess I'm a bitch too, then.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:24 AM (9gDA7)

110 What are Erik Erikkson's accomplishments in life?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 23, 2023 11:24 AM (KFhLj)

111 97 The only answer is nuclear cars.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (GKqIR)

Clearly. And Zepplins. We should have thousands of tiny nuke plants in every city by now.

But all sources of energy are good.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:24 AM (1ais2)

112 If I'm going to die, you are coming with me.

I have nothing to lose.
Posted by: rickb223

And take some comrades with him, inshallah.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 23, 2023 11:24 AM (i0Kzs)

113 These days we're more being screwed by Biden's invisible dick.

You mean Jarrett and Rice's invisible clits. Biden isn't in control of his own bladder, let alone the country.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (ZGrMX)

114 I hate to tell the Utopians that power lines are easily interrupted. Should be fun when NYC is in the dark for a few days.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (GKqIR)
++++
I am deeply concerned about that problem. When transformers blow up and there's a power outage lasting for a week or more, something is desperately wrong.

My fear is that the warehouses are increasingly bare.Not every utility company necessarily has adequate spare parts, but they can be obtained by borrowing or buying from other companies. Until recently, apparently. That's worrying for me. I wonder how much of our infrastructure parts supply chain depends on Chinese or other Far East manufacturing or German manufacturing. Have we been eating up inventory for three years and now we're in trouble with no means to effectively replace it at required scale?

I don't know. It does give me the willies, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (t0OGg)

115 >>>What are Erik Erikkson's accomplishments in life?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority


Competitive eating?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (VWp7G)

116 I haven't seen a single egg shortage. The grocery stores around here have full shelves of eggs. $5+ eggs everywhere you look. Weirdest "shortage" you could ever want.

And they're never marked down to clearance prices when it's time to move them off the shelf to replace them with the next batch of $5 eggs the next week.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (jzkRn)

117 *Queensrÿche rolls across playlist*

*shudders*

*cold sweats*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (9gDA7)

118 Deripaska isn't Putin's guy btw.

Yea, he was. He was at one time one of the richest men in Russia and he made much of his wealth trading formerly state assets. Nobody does that in Russia without Putin's blessing.

>>He is said to be Vladimir Putin’s favourite industrialist, with deep links among the British and Russian establishments. Unlike some of his countrymen, Oleg Deripaska has cultivated influence quietly, preferring to stay out of the spotlight.

https://tinyurl.com/uetjz7wx

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (ZLI7S)

119 Michael Rubin, a Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI):

Ukraine Needs Nuclear Weapons After The Russia War Is Over

https://tinyurl.com/2n5p5k6p

These people are insane.

The next step, of course, is to advocate supplying nuclear weapons to Ukraine now.

At least during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the foreign policy leadership of this country realized that there was a serious risk of nuclear war, and tried to avoid it.

Now, with the risk of nuclear war arguably higher than sixty years ago, you have a significant fraction of the American foreign policy establishment denying that there is any risk of nuclear war at all, so we can continue to escalate the war without consequence.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (2tUFv)

120 damn right, nurse r!
laugh more, and louder!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (XzIdt)

121 98 Aetius, I also enjoy Lileks’ site.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 11:26 AM (ZXbyL)

122 Biden isn't in control of his own bladder, let alone the country.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (ZGrMX)



Pissing is fine, fat.

It's the sharts that get me......

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:26 AM (9gDA7)

123 THIS. And Project ORION.

Big Balls Civilization ideas.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 11:23 AM (zZu0s)

I kinda get a little weak kneed and silly when ppl start discussing gigantic amounts of nuclear explosions.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (1ais2)

124 These people are insane.

didn't AEI used to be the Good Guys?

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (dCxaZ)

125 "did anyone actually take EE seriously?"

Electrical engineering is serious as cancer.

Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (24fqN)

126 Gentlemen, we are now more powerful than US Steel Condoms.
Now available in Martha Stewart colors.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (JMmve)

127 I hate to tell the Utopians that power lines are easily interrupted.

That's the entire point of moving people to EVs. First you restrict their movement by turning off the juice, then you eliminate cars entirely because they just aren't practical. The elites will still have their cars though.
Posted by: Ian S

Elites won't be able to charge their EV's. No power, no charge.

Do you mean their ICE vehicles? Yeah. No. When you turn off the drill because you have lowered the overall use, it costs waaaay to much to drill. Companies won't do it.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (IV8Hw)

128 Free the Nipple!

Posted by: Hee-Haw All-Jug Band at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (8ocB+)

129 68 There is probably a handful of semi-intelligent folks in the gub'mint who realized that the natural gas infrastructures in the 3rd world blue cites are a disaster waiting to happen and thought "well lets just ban gas appliances, electric lines don't blow up and take out entire city blocks" That is the childish level of thinking the ones that are not pure evil are capable of.
Posted by: PaleRider at January 23, 2023 11:15 AM (3cGpq)


There's a picturesque little town in southern Colorado whose quaint vintage buildings keep burning down. We lost our favorite restaurant to one of those fires. I had assumed they were gas explosions but learned later that every single fire was electrical.

Posted by: Emmie at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (Emce2)

130 What I found fascinating was a restaurant that had been built overlooking the freeway. It was like an overpass restaurant with big glass windows that looked out over the road. For some reason, it seemed so captivating and interesting.

Yeah, those are neat. I don't think there were too many of them. There's a scene shot in one in the movie Inside Llewyn Davis.

Posted by: spindrift at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (h5TKJ)

131 Pissing is fine, fat.

It's the sharts that get me......
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:26 AM (9gDA7)


No kidding.

Posted by: Pope Francis at January 23, 2023 11:28 AM (ZGrMX)

132 More layoffs. I thought this was America! These celebrities were cancelled because of the shoes they wore.

https://bit.ly/3ks142u

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 11:28 AM (FVME7)

133 I hate to tell the Utopians that power lines are easily interrupted.

That's the entire point of moving people to EVs. First you restrict their movement by turning off the juice, then you eliminate cars entirely because they just aren't practical. The elites will still have their cars though.

Posted by: Ian S.

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I saw an interesting angle I hadn't considered a few days ago.

Insurance companies in some European country won't insure electric cars because of their fire hazards. So ban gas cars, everyone buys EVs, and then they can't insure them.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:28 AM (jzkRn)

134 LOL, TJM@79!

a short film, but very much to the point.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at January 23, 2023 11:28 AM (XzIdt)

135 119 Michael Rubin, a Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI):

He was a big neocon Iraq war hawk as I recall.
Speaking of good reasons to be

Posted by: Ex-GOP at January 23, 2023 11:28 AM (Fj8Gx)

136 I've long argued that the proper response to gun control attempts is to push for mandatory gun ownership. If everyone owns an AR-15, good luck getting rid of them.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 23, 2023 11:28 AM (CRzJX)

137 Lileks has a lot of car culture Americana up on his site. Hotels, Motels. What I found fascinating was a restaurant that had been built overlooking the freeway. It was like an overpass restaurant with big glass windows that looked out over the road. For some reason, it seemed so captivating and interesting.

I love the idea of the 50s more than I probably would have enjoyed the reality, but damn, does it look wonderful from here.


Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM

I remember those growing up. Had them all over the Midwest in the 1980s. Had a lot of them in Illinois around the Chicago area. I remember passing one all the time when we made trips to O'Hare Airport to pick up friends/family and when we took trips to Wisconsin Dells and Rockford for the Water Park there.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 11:28 AM (Do5/p)

138 Theater, in other words, accomplishing nothing and with the intention of accomplishing nothing.

Meanwhile there is an actual ban on gas powered vehicles occurring. Very much NOT theater. Actual real life.


He's done something. It's important to make people think, and he accomplished that. What have you done?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2023 11:29 AM (eOEVl)

139

Eggs $3.29 / doz, up from $2.69 last week.

But this is all good news! Demand is up! unemployment is down! Empty shelves means stuff is selling fast!

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2023 11:29 AM (j4U/Z)

140 >>He is said to be Vladimir Putin’s favourite industrialist, with deep links among the British and Russian establishments. Unlike some of his countrymen, Oleg Deripaska has cultivated influence quietly, preferring to stay out of the spotlight.

https://tinyurl.com/uetjz7wx
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (ZLI7S)

The Guardian says this? The Guardian? Uhhhh

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:29 AM (1ais2)

141 Do you mean their ICE vehicles? Yeah. No. When you turn off the drill because you have lowered the overall use, it costs waaaay to much to drill. Companies won't do it.

Small-scale drilling to service the elites will do just fine. The fact that it'll make gas too expensive for the peasants is a bonus.

Posted by: Pope Francis at January 23, 2023 11:29 AM (ZGrMX)

142 132 More layoffs. I thought this was America! These celebrities were cancelled because of the shoes they wore.

https://bit.ly/3ks142u
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 11:28 AM (FVME7)

=========

"We keep trying and failing to cancel Dave Chappelle, which means that cancel culture isn't real. Also, canceling someone lower isn't really cancelling, it's just enforcing our morality on society through the manipulation of social media."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

143 I kinda get a little weak kneed and silly when ppl start discussing gigantic amounts of nuclear explosions.
Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (1ais2)

The sudden surge of Testosterone IS jarring.

The maniacal laughs can be explained away.

I'd recommend going shooting instead of grabbing the closest busty redhead and carrying her off though.

Unless she is willing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 23, 2023 11:29 AM (zZu0s)

144 Oh noes! Can it be??

Has elon confessed to being a Wine Mom???

https://tinyurl.com/38sjm466

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:29 AM (dCxaZ)

145 Theater, in other words, accomplishing nothing and with the intention of accomplishing nothing.

Meanwhile there is an actual ban on gas powered vehicles occurring. Very much NOT theater. Actual real life.
-

He's done something. It's important to make people think, and he accomplished that. What have you done?

Posted by: Archimedes

----

Voted for these Republicans that accomplish nothing except theater for 30 odd years.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:29 AM (jzkRn)

146 Texas, what's with Elon Musk moving his stuff here and all, probably wouldn't ban EVs, but here's a way it could work.

1) Restrict EVs to no more than 2%(or less) of the current vehicles in Texas, because -

we have neither the electrical generating ability or the grid capacity to support what a massive increase in EVs would entail.

2) Link the number of EVs allowed to the building of new completed nuclear power plants*, say 6-8 statewide, and the bulking up of "dumb" grid capacity independent of any linkage out of state.

3) Set the maximum number of allowed EVs at 5-10% of the power generating and grid capacity beginning in 2035 if and only if it can be demonstrated that this number of EVs cannot cause overload or grid failure during high stress times like very low or very high temperatures.

4) Pass a law allowing all CO2tards to be kicked in the nuts or cuntpunted whenever and wherever they open their pinholes regarding climate or...well, anything. Even their favorite M&Ms color.

*NG or coal plants would be fine as well, but CO2tards heads would explode.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 23, 2023 11:30 AM (KLPy8)

147 >>>But this is all good news! Demand is up! unemployment is down! Empty shelves means stuff is selling fast!
Posted by: Auspex


I mean, who doesn't want to relive the Great Depression?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2023 11:30 AM (VWp7G)

148 129 68 There is probably a handful of semi-intelligent folks in the gub'mint who realized that the natural gas infrastructures in the 3rd world blue cites are a disaster waiting to happen and thought "well lets just ban gas appliances, electric lines don't blow up and take out entire city blocks" That is the childish level of thinking the ones that are not pure evil are capable of.
Posted by: PaleRider at January 23, 2023 11:15 AM (3cGpq)
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Most of these old blue shitholes heat their houses with heating oil. Heating oil territories are well established and jealously guarded family interests. This is why they don't want gas heat nor allow the choice.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:30 AM (GKqIR)

149 EVs are getting what market share they have as much by government contract as by private sales.
Only government is big enough to do something totally stupid and make it appear to work, so it creates the market for EVs by greasing state and local governments into buying fleets of these things, which creates the idea in the public that there is a market for these things.

Take out the government contracts.
Take out the government tax credit and rebates.

Where's the market for an EV?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 23, 2023 11:30 AM (FCbAQ)

150 I wonder how much of our infrastructure parts supply chain depends on Chinese or other Far East manufacturing or German manufacturing. Have we been eating up inventory for three years and now we're in trouble with no means to effectively replace it at required scale?

I don't know. It does give me the willies, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Electrical substations don't break often on their own. Therefore, replacement parts are 6+ months out.

When substations are broken on purpose, it doesn't take much to empty what's on the shelf.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:31 AM (IV8Hw)

151 OT: Just did a quick back-of-the-envelope calc of my taxes, and it looks as if I will owe quite a bit less than I originally estimated. I was counting my wages as higher than is shown on my W-2.

That and a lower 6-month premium for car insurance if I change companies, and the financial horizon is a little brighter than it was yesterday.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 11:31 AM (J2vNu)

152 “I think the thought of an electric vehicle ban is truly completely ludicrous, but it’s no more ludicrous than a ban on gasoline powered vehicles,” he said.

I don't consider a ban on EV cars ludicrous - unless you can prove that you are charging your car off-grid. (home version of wind, solar, petrol powered generator, etc)

The reasoning is that EV car fires require more training and equipment from emergency services, the grid needs to be bolstered for intermittent high-demand, EVs are typically heavier, the batteries need to be disposed of (usually locally so this is a burden on local waste management).

All of these things listed are socialized costs for the privatized benefits of the EV owner. That is, YOU through higher taxes, fees and rates are subsidizing the true economic costs added to infrastructure from EV integration.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 23, 2023 11:31 AM (l7lsb)

153 I don't know. It does give me the willies, though.

Yeah, it would be nice to have a stock of electrical transformers.

Last summer, the Pacific Northwest nearly ran out of chlorine (needed to purify water supplies), because the local chlorine plant had its transformer blow, and couldn't quickly replace it, when some other chlorine plants across the country were down.

Worrisome.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2023 11:31 AM (2tUFv)

154 116 I haven't seen a single egg shortage. The grocery stores around here have full shelves of eggs. $5+ eggs everywhere you look. Weirdest "shortage" you could ever want.

And they're never marked down to clearance prices when it's time to move them off the shelf to replace them with the next batch of $5 eggs the next week.
Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:25 AM (jzkRn)

Please tell me you aren't going to start extolling the merits of electric cars next.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 11:31 AM (XvPQV)

155 >>>Yeah, it would be nice to have a stock of electrical transformers.



I got ya.

Posted by: Optimus Prime at January 23, 2023 11:31 AM (VWp7G)

156 >>The Guardian says this? The Guardian? Uhhhh

Believe what you want. He and Putin have been thick as thieves for years until their recent falling out over Ukraine. There are no oligarchs in Russia, not living ones anyway, who didn't get rich by working with Putin which is exactly what Deripaska did for years.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 11:31 AM (ZLI7S)

157 Have you ever seen a progressive state talk about using sand instead of salt to keep the roadways open and to save the earf? Nope. The salt mines are big donors in state politics. Dittos heating oil companies.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:32 AM (GKqIR)

158 157 Have you ever seen a progressive state talk about using sand instead of salt to keep the roadways open and to save the earf? Nope. The salt mines are big donors in state politics. Dittos heating oil companies.


well here in SE PA they won't use good road salt any more because Earf. instead they brine which is useless

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 23, 2023 11:32 AM (w0NJk)

159 "Yeah, it would be nice to have a stock of electrical transformers."

I've got a 75lb box of wallwarts, like most folx do.

Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 23, 2023 11:32 AM (24fqN)

160
Or, Big Egg is fixing prices to rip off LBGTQER+ consumers.

Time for rationing. Or IRS audits. Or closing facilities to find out how Covid restrictions are being violated.

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2023 11:32 AM (j4U/Z)

161 UK medical journal Lancet wants "revolutionary shift" away from human-centered healthcare to "ecological equity" because "all life is equal"

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Why concern ourselves with cancer when Gaia is crying?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 11:32 AM (FVME7)

162 If government stays out of the way, and stops paying people not to work, and stops punishing farming and transportation, etc, etc, the shelves will eventually be full again. Eventually.

But golden geese take a long time to evolve.

(buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com)

First we'll have iron geese. Then bronze geese.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 23, 2023 11:33 AM (FCbAQ)

163 if you go to our Lidl late in the day yes no eggs or meat to be had

late in the day = after noon

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 23, 2023 11:33 AM (w0NJk)

164 Shopping yesterday.
No carrots
no lettuce
no rice cakes?
no soup noodles
no 1% milk

I joke it's like shopping in North Korea. We are all being lulled into accepting the fact that these shortages are "normal".

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at January 23, 2023 11:33 AM (flINI)

165 I remember those growing up. Had them all over the Midwest in the 1980s. Had a lot of them in Illinois around the Chicago area. I remember passing one all the time when we made trips to O'Hare Airport to pick up friends/family and when we took trips to Wisconsin Dells and Rockford for the Water Park there.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 11:28 AM

Illinois Tollway Oasis: http://bit.ly/3J9FeeK

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2023 11:34 AM (Do5/p)

166 didn't AEI used to be the Good Guys?

AEI, along with other Washington think tanks, has been taken over by Big Tech.

Apparently AEI allows outfits like Google to pay for specific "researchers" to generate the results that Google wants.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2023 11:34 AM (2tUFv)

167 no rice cakes?


we have rice shortages here which is just super weird. maybe related

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (w0NJk)

168 UK medical journal Lancet wants "revolutionary shift" away from human-centered healthcare to "ecological equity" because "all life is equal"

Abortions for ants!

Posted by: UK "medical journal" The Lancet at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (h5TKJ)

169 I haven't needed horse feed for while. The last time I was in the local TSC they had a sign in the livestock feed section something like "Scratch grains and cracked corn will be unavailable until further notice"

So even the folks that got their own chickens are having to deal with shortages now. They did have some other kinds of poultry feed for sale but that sign was odd. It was not "we're out until the next shipment comes on Tuesday", it was out until further notice.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (3cGpq)

170 Please tell me you aren't going to start extolling the merits of electric cars next.

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Just the opposite. They can't break 4% of total annual sales in perfect-conditions California. As someone mentioned up above, take out the government and corporate ESG-driven sales and I doubt it's even 1% private sales and leases annually.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (jzkRn)

171 The wife's RDX is getting the 100,000 mile service, so they gave her a loaner car, a 2022 Acura TLX. It is one impressive car, its lit up like a starship inside at night. 10 speed trans, turbo, fast as shit, AWD, super comfy with a massive amount of leg room. Down side, it cost 50K for the version they lent her. I actually thought of getting one just to have a new ICE in the stable, but that price kinda stopped that idea.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (VwHCD)

172 well here in SE PA they won't use good road salt any more because Earf. instead they brine which is useless

Seattle banned salt, because the salt runoff was polluting the Pacific Ocean.

Really.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (2tUFv)

173 14 How about this:

Give people the freedom to innovate and create and explore. If their products are viable and cost effective, there is no other incentive needed to purchase them. They will succeed on merit.

Or not.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 11:04 AM (PNCm+)

This. The Tesla Model X sedan is a beautiful car. The Prius hybrid got 50+ MPG. Both cars gave consumers a great reason to buy them; the Feels got incentives added, but they probably weren't even necessary. Make a better product, and consumers will beat a path to your door. The government didn't force people to give up the horse for a Model T a hundred years ago, and it's not necessary now.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (7wsOD)

174 Voted for these Republicans that accomplish nothing except theater for 30 odd years.

Then your problem is with those who accomplish nothing, not the guy who does something creative to make the point. Ultimately, it comes down to what people will accept, and he's making them pay attention.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (eOEVl)

175 Mandate that all EVs must be at least 100 yards from any flamable structure. Do it for the chilrun.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:36 AM (GKqIR)

176 Believe what you want. He and Putin have been thick as thieves for years until their recent falling out over Ukraine. There are no oligarchs in Russia, not living ones anyway, who didn't get rich by working with Putin which is exactly what Deripaska did for years.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2023 11:31 AM (ZLI7S)

Well, we all have to decide based on his track record. And judge Putin's ability within RUS to exert influence. And what sort of relationship he created with the Oligarchs.

I will just say that it seems to me every single person and outlet claiming Deripaska is Putin's guy is a mouthpiece for US and UK intel.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:36 AM (1ais2)

177 lol

Jordan Peterseon "energy-splains" vice-pResident Knobgobbler:

https://tinyurl.com/msenm5uu

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:36 AM (dCxaZ)

178 So even the folks that got their own chickens are having to deal with shortages now. They did have some other kinds of poultry feed for sale but that sign was odd. It was not "we're out until the next shipment comes on Tuesday", it was out until further notice.


did you guys see the videos of chicken farmers saying after this past halloween they must have changed the laying feed somehow b/c their chickens weren't producing? a lot of these people said they had to change to some home made feed and just like that the chickens were laying again

a manufactured shortage?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 23, 2023 11:36 AM (w0NJk)

179 More money for more cats, Wolfus!

Posted by: Ka-ching! at January 23, 2023 11:37 AM (8ocB+)

180 so everything they want they get

Posted by: torabora at January 23, 2023 11:37 AM (OUiUM)

181 Old and busted: The Great Depression

New and cool: The Great Full Blown Mental Illness

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 11:37 AM (FVME7)

182 Breaking supply chains was not really due to "Covid", it was enemy action by the globalists.

In addition there are the wars, which cut some fertilizer and supply chains, also the shut down of our own oil production was not really Covid related.

There are no doubt other globalist/DerpState actions that were intended to steal/kill/destroy USA under the convenient emergency powers.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 23, 2023 11:37 AM (Cus5s)

183 Seattle banned salt, because the salt runoff was polluting the Pacific Ocean.

Really.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


Does heroin injected straight into the eyeball stop the twitching?

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:38 AM (IV8Hw)

184 182 Breaking supply chains was not really due to "Covid", it was enemy action by the globalists.

In addition there are the wars, which cut some fertilizer and supply chains, also the shut down of our own oil production was not really Covid related.

There are no doubt other globalist/DerpState actions that were intended to steal/kill/destroy USA under the convenient emergency powers.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 23, 2023 11:37 AM (Cus5s)

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"The Devil COVID made me do it!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:38 AM (LvTSG)

185 for Horde-mates who hate Twitter, this is what Peterson replied to assface in the WH:

Yeah, I don't think so. You don't have the time or the expertise, and "a clean energy economy" is a lot easier said than done. Furthermore, your track record on such matters is far from stellar and you place far too much faith in centralized control @vp

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:38 AM (dCxaZ)

186 UK medical journal Lancet wants "revolutionary shift" away from human-centered healthcare to "ecological equity" because "all life is equal"

Stuff like this is inevitable once you disconnect the patient as direct payor for medical care. The doctor-patient relationship is an agency relationship (meaning the doctor is your agent with all the constraints an agency relationship imposes) when you are paying him. But when you aren't, he's no longer working for you. He doesn't cease to be an agent; he's just someone else's agent. Your doctor really isn't loyal to you, the patient, anymore. And why would he be? Because of a an old Greek oath?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 23, 2023 11:39 AM (KFhLj)

187 Or, Big Egg is fixing prices to rip off LBGTQER+ consumers.

Big Egg is more expensive because Colorado mandated a minimum amount of space per chicken and national companies go by the state with the strictest standards so the product remains fungible.

Posted by: Pope Francis at January 23, 2023 11:39 AM (ZGrMX)

188 a manufactured shortage?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 23, 2023 11:36 AM (w0NJk)


good thing we live near the Amish

but now those greedy bastids have extra reason to hike their prices sky-high

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:39 AM (dCxaZ)

189 Meanwhile, our Shoprites, and Stop and Shops cereal isles are fully stocked and many are actually on sale this week. Especially at the Shoprite supermarkets. So what's going on in your area?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (Zvtjl)


It's Market Basket, a NE chain that usually manages to keep things stocked. I don't know what the hell is happening here.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 23, 2023 11:39 AM (AW0uW)

190 Voted for these Republicans that accomplish nothing except theater for 30 odd years.

Then your problem is with those who accomplish nothing, not the guy who does something creative to make the point. Ultimately, it comes down to what people will accept, and he's making them pay attention.

Posted by: Archimedes

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It's exactly as creative as the Republicans who got a Obamacare repeal bill to Obama's desk when they knew they could count on his veto and never bothered voting on the same tiny bill when Trump was in office.

Again, it's theater. Theater is creative, yes. That's the point of theater.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:39 AM (jzkRn)

191 > Richard Trumka

That's would be Richard Dumbfuck Jr., son of Richard Dumbfuck Sr., who has been pushing up daisies since 2021. Dad was a corrupt union thug and long time Democratic Party hack.

Junior has no discernible expertise in consumer products, safety, or anything else remotely related to the job, of course.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:39 AM (bW8dp)

192 The Left: We must ban herbicides, pesticides, and "chemical" fertilizers to save Mother Earth!

Result: Crop yields plummet, farmers go broke, blue collar workers in jobs that support agriculture lose their jobs. Brazil does more clear cutting of the precious rain forests to grow the crops that Americans are restricted from growing.

The Left: Why are the grocery shelves empty? The government must do something! Why are greedy Brazilian farmers destroying the rain forests?

Miss Lindsay: We should invade Brazil!

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at January 23, 2023 11:40 AM (gf7Ez)

193 More money for more cats, Wolfus!
Posted by: Ka-ching! at January 23, 2023


***
More money for cat chow, that is. Dagny the little kitten is eating enthusiastically, and big black Stirling, while less energetic about food now, is still determined to chew through a lot of IAMS dry food every day.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 23, 2023 11:40 AM (J2vNu)

194 Here is a compromise all can be happy with:

For every 10,000 electric vehicles on the road build 1-2 nuclear power plants. This will more than offset the electricity requirements they demand.

If they can power aircraft carriers and submarines (and why not destroyers and frigates Navy! Why did you decomm. the Californias and Virginias well before their prime!) they can power the EV's.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 23, 2023 11:40 AM (VldJx)

195 I don't see them ever actually banning gas stoves. The nomenklatura use gas stoves. It would be like a ban on private jets.

Posted by: Roscoe at January 23, 2023 11:40 AM (dO0SE)

196 did you guys see the videos of chicken farmers saying after this past halloween they must have changed the laying feed somehow b/c their chickens weren't producing? a lot of these people said they had to change to some home made feed and just like that the chickens were laying again

a manufactured shortage?
Posted by: BlackOrchid


Saw that. Go to your gardening centers. Not Home Depot or Lowe's, but real gardening centers.

Buy bugs. Lady bugs specifically. Let 2,000 to 5,000 loose. Your chickens will thank you.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:40 AM (IV8Hw)

197 She's stranded out there and had to call out sick today.

I'm a bitch for laughing. But, I'm laughing.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2023 11:21 AM (QLpfE)


When she comes back, ask the idiot if she learned her fucking lesson.

"It's Trump's fault!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 23, 2023 11:40 AM (AW0uW)

198 Yeah, I don't think so. You don't have the time or the expertise, and "a clean energy economy" is a lot easier said than done. Furthermore, your track record on such matters is far from stellar and you place far too much faith in centralized control @vp

How dare you question her EE, physics and chemistry credentials. Heteropatriarchal racist!

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2023 11:40 AM (eOEVl)

199 MY BUTT'S BEEN WIPED!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:40 AM (9gDA7)

200 Theater, in other words, accomplishing nothing and with the intention of accomplishing nothing.

..

In one of the reddest states in the country?

I shan't believe it. It's almost as if voting doesn't matter.

Nic?

Posted by: Do you have a Plan B? at January 23, 2023 11:41 AM (JNPgJ)

201 did you guys see the videos of chicken farmers saying after this past halloween they must have changed the laying feed somehow b/c their chickens weren't producing? a lot of these people said they had to change to some home made feed and just like that the chickens were laying again
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Stop noticing these coincidences, citizen.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:41 AM (jzkRn)

202 > Abortions for ants!
Posted by: UK "medical journal" The Lancet at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (h5TKJ)

Sex change surgery, too.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:41 AM (bW8dp)

203 202 > Abortions for ants!
Posted by: UK "medical journal" The Lancet at January 23, 2023 11:35 AM (h5TKJ)

Sex change surgery, too.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:41 AM (bW8dp)

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$10,000 per ant, paid for by the British taxpayer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:42 AM (LvTSG)

204 It's exactly as creative as the Republicans who got a Obamacare repeal bill to Obama's desk when they knew they could count on his veto and never bothered voting on the same tiny bill when Trump was in office.

Again, it's theater. Theater is creative, yes. That's the point of theater.


The man has one vote. He did what he could. Direct your fire to those who deserve it.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2023 11:42 AM (eOEVl)

205 good thing we live near the Amish

but now those greedy bastids have extra reason to hike their prices sky-high
Posted by: kallisto


The Amish Lottery is up to 200 chickens this week!

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:42 AM (IV8Hw)

206 "videos of chicken farmers saying after this past halloween they must have changed the laying feed somehow"

Boxed and frozen processed foods taste more like crap than ever before. They're switching to cheaper ingredients along with shrinking the packages.

Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 23, 2023 11:42 AM (24fqN)

207 Milk? Eggs? Flour?

It's like he lives in a bubble, and took a walk around and was astonished. To build on what was said. Yes the COVID lockdowns gave our economy a grievous wound. But as the black knight would say, "it's just a flesh wound" and the strong American economy fought its way back. Though now weakened and need of years of stable times to recover fully.

Instead what we got is a bird flu pandemic wiping out egg producing chickens either directly, or by necessary culling, a war in one of the largest wheat producing countries on earth, shipping crisis affected by a shortage of truck drivers, and a general labor crisis, the final two feed forward from COVID lockdowns.

And looky lu, we have shortages, of eggs, milk, and flour. An economy which in its strength would have simply compensated for crisis with a meaty invisible hand and a slight price increase as opportunity met entrepreneur, now in weakness cannot and so problems now create shortages, instead of a small bump in price.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 23, 2023 11:42 AM (T/vhV)

208 I 100% believe most Amish are fake.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (1ais2)

209 MY BUTT'S BEEN WIPED!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 11:40 AM (9gDA7)

Suddenly your press secretary's hair makes sense.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (VwHCD)

210 Also more wood will be used for heating homes.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (heunx)

211 208 I 100% believe most Amish are fake.
Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (1ais2)

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NARRATOR: Thesokorus has only met Mennonites.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (LvTSG)

212 Eric Erickson - nothing sadder than a David French fanboi/wannabe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (trdmm)

213 Buy your tickets now. Amish Powerball is now up to 4 dozen jumbo eggs!

Posted by: Mr. Greenjeans at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (8ocB+)

214 but now those greedy bastids have extra reason to hike their prices sky-high


lol the side of our Amish that most people don't know about

they do love our English money

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (w0NJk)

215 The Prius hybrid got 50+ MPG.

The new Prius gets 58 MPG, is faster, and is actually good looking. It's like industry left to itself will make better things.

Posted by: Pope Francis at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (ZGrMX)

216 210 Also more wood will be used for heating homes.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (heunx)

=========

"The Paolo, how do you say, understands this different from most."
-The Paolo

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

217 They are indeed coming for our gas stoves. Even just proposing such an outrageous plan keeps us conservatives constantly in our heels. The liberals are always playing offense and we are always left desperately on defense against these fringe proposals meanwhile missing the fact that the left is pushing their actual agenda right down America's throat.

Time for red states to defend universities, defend major administrative branches, and let the left stagger under the weight of our offensive.

Posted by: JT Smith at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (FxdZx)

218 NARRATOR: Thesokorus has only met Mennonites.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (LvTSG)

SPURIOUS PRECISION

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (1ais2)

219 161 UK medical journal Lancet wants "revolutionary shift" away from human-centered healthcare to "ecological equity" because "all life is equal"


I don't have a clue what that means except it sound devilish.
Autocorrect chose devilish. I had a different word in mind but I'll accept AC's recommendation.

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (eGTCV)

220 I see that egg smuggling is way up on the Mexican border.

Apparently it's only a $600 fine if you get caught, so it's starting to look like a better gig than drugs.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (bW8dp)

221 It's exactly as creative as the Republicans who got a Obamacare repeal bill to Obama's desk when they knew they could count on his veto and never bothered voting on the same tiny bill when Trump was in office.

Again, it's theater. Theater is creative, yes. That's the point of theater.
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The man has one vote. He did what he could. Direct your fire to those who deserve it.

Posted by: Archimedes

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With all due respect, that was the entire point of my initial comment that set off this conversation:

He said sponsors got what they wanted by provoking a national conversation about bans on gas-powered vehicles, and that an actual ban on electric vehicles would be “ludicrous.”

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Theater, in other words, accomplishing nothing and with the intention of accomplishing nothing.

Meanwhile there is an actual ban on gas powered vehicles occurring. Very much NOT theater. Actual real life.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (jzkRn)

222 Oh they will ban private jets and gas stoves... Yours, not theirs.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (flINI)

223 Anyone who has a pool knows there are a variety of chemical shortages... chlorine in particular last year. I figure it will be every bit as bad, if not worse this year.

There are shortages of many other chemicals too. Some of those are affecting food production while others are affecting industrial supplies.

We are circling the drain and getting a lot closer to the bottom.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 11:45 AM (Q4IgG)

224 "videos of chicken farmers saying after this past halloween they must have changed the laying feed somehow"

I remember that ground-up newspaper used to be added to some animal feeds. Now that print is dead, they're switching to something even more inert.

Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 23, 2023 11:45 AM (24fqN)

225 The only answer is nuclear cars.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 11:22 AM (GKqIR)


Ion power. Aye, we could lean a thing or two from them, Captain.

-- Montgomery Scott

Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 11:45 AM (gmo/4)

226 And now a word from Pigboy.

David Hogg ☮@davidhogg11
There’s a reason the vast majority of these shooters are male. There is no talking about gun violence without talking about patriarchy.

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Now they're not even trying to pretend to limit it to high capacity, assault patriarchy with pistol grips and the thing that goes up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 11:45 AM (FVME7)

227 178 So even the folks that got their own chickens are having to deal with shortages now. They did have some other kinds of poultry feed for sale but that sign was odd. It was not "we're out until the next shipment comes on Tuesday", it was out until further notice.


did you guys see the videos of chicken farmers saying after this past halloween they must have changed the laying feed somehow b/c their chickens weren't producing? a lot of these people said they had to change to some home made feed and just like that the chickens were laying again

a manufactured shortage?
Posted by: BlackOrchid
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Not so much, simply put, feed companies constantly reformulate their ingredients based on market prices for the grains and proteins included in the feed. Examples of substitution would be soybean meal for fish meal, oyster shells instead of calcium, milo aka grain sorghum instead of corn. Milo in particular can cause chickens to reduce production.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 11:45 AM (bDjBG)

228 Andrew Tate is in prison?

https://tinyurl.com/pw422e9b

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:45 AM (dCxaZ)

229 We are circling the drain and getting a lot closer to the bottom.

Cloward and Piven laugh quietly.

Posted by: Pope Francis at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (ZGrMX)

230 Remember, The Lancet is the rag that basically claimed that AmeriKKKa had killed every Iraqi civilian. Twice.

They have less credibility than "Scientific American" (aka "Two Lies, One Title"), to the extent that's even possible.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (bW8dp)

231 226 And now a word from Pigboy.

David Hogg ☮@davidhogg11
There’s a reason the vast majority of these shooters are male. There is no talking about gun violence without talking about patriarchy.

-
Now they're not even trying to pretend to limit it to high capacity, assault patriarchy with pistol grips and the thing that goes up.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 11:45 AM (FVME7)

==========

Just wait until he discovers the connection to broken homes and the left's push to destroy the nuclear family.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

232 191 > . . . Junior has no discernible expertise in consumer products, safety, or anything else remotely related to the job, of course.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
____________

Does he not know how to steal luggage at airports?

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (gf7Ez)

233 shortages hide inflation
shrinkflation hides inflation
low quality food hides inflation
feeding people corn, rice, and textured vegetable proteins hides inflation

The Cantillon effect of money printing inflation makes sure you will not eat good food, live in your own house, or travel or save for the future.

Hiding this from you is merely self preservation for those that pretend to centrally plan the economy and grow rich off the inflation.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (xhaym)

234 The Amish are good businessmen.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (ZXbyL)

235 >>>videos of chicken farmers saying after this past halloween they must have changed the laying feed somehow

With global food shortages starting to set in, the corn and soy normally used to feed chickens is probably starting to look awful attractive to export for human consumption right this second.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (T/vhV)

236 David Hogg ☮@davidhogg11
There’s a reason the vast majority of these shooters are male. There is no talking about gun violence without talking about patriarchy.

--

Wait, so black men...

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (jzkRn)

237 Wal Mart 18 count XL eggs - $9.84 yesterday.

Big gaps on shelving units where products should be.


There is just something shit about WalMart. Mine has had these bare, East German meat shelves since I first started using it in 2018. The big Amish store I go to is consistently stuffed to the gills with local production.

Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (bt2PN)

238 Instead what we got is a bird flu pandemic wiping out egg producing chickens either directly, or by necessary culling,


Instead of killing flocks within a five mile radius, test the affected flock and kill them if necessary. Chickens don't visit the farm down the road. No reason to kill every bird as a precaution.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (IV8Hw)

239 They used to put arsenic in chicken feed to make them lay more. I don't know if that's still the case.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (bW8dp)

240 Junior has no discernible expertise in consumer products, safety, or anything else remotely related to the job, of course.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


He knows how to cash a check and do what he is told.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (xhaym)

241 "for Horde-mates who hate Twitter, this is what Peterson replied to assface in the WH:"


Great, except she will never see it. I doubt she even wrote the original tweet, it was somebody on her staff in charge of her deep thoughts. Maybe even an AI bot wrote it. Who knows, nothing coming out of the regime is real, expect their plans for permanent power (also know as Protecting Our Democracy)

Posted by: Ripleys at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (cUYo/)

242 And now a word from Pigboy.

David Hogg ☮@davidhogg11
There’s a reason the vast majority of these shooters are male. There is no talking about gun violence without talking about patriarchy.


Hogg posted yesterday morning that "Some days I don't know what to say". The highest-rated reply was "It's hard to talk with a dick in your mouth".

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (ZGrMX)

243 David Hogg ☮@davidhogg11
There’s a reason the vast majority of these shooters are male. There is no talking about gun violence without talking about patriarchy.

Something he is clueless about.

Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (Mz4ED)

244
Rooster sperm count crisis?

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (j4U/Z)

245 239 They used to put arsenic in chicken feed to make them lay more. I don't know if that's still the case.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (bW8dp)

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When old lace became hard to find due to the supply being used on wigs, the use of arsenic plummeted.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (LvTSG)

246
lol the side of our Amish that most people don't know about

they do love our English money

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (w0NJk)


the Lancaster Co. Amish have more money than God. And that's all I'll say about that.

I did hear that the market at 926 and 202 has better prices than Booth's Corner though.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (dCxaZ)

247 234 The Amish are good businessmen.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 11:46 AM (ZXbyL)

Both the fake ones (almost all) and the real ones (elves really rare and skittish)!

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:48 AM (1ais2)

248 The Amish are good businessmen.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


Terrible animal stewards.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:48 AM (IV8Hw)

249 I did hear that the market at 926 and 202 has better prices than Booth's Corner though.


yes it's pretty good! limited hours but so is Booths Corner

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 23, 2023 11:48 AM (w0NJk)

250 They used to put arsenic in chicken feed to make them lay more. I don't know if that's still the case.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (bW8dp)


Arsenic is a required dietary trace mineral for chickens, they do poorly and die if they don't have it.
The FDA and EPA standards for Arsenic is far below what is tolerable for humans, insanely so.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 11:48 AM (xhaym)

251 David Hogg ☮@davidhogg11
There’s a reason the vast majority of these shooters are male. There is no talking about gun violence without talking about patriarchy.


There is no talking about patriarchy karens without talking about the dickless.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2023 11:48 AM (VwHCD)

252 So now soon-President Kamala Harris has eliminated the "life" part of the "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" bit in the Declaration of Independence.

Quite deliberate.

https://tinyurl.com/mrt6rv4k

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2023 11:48 AM (2tUFv)

253 It might not even have bearing on what Wyoming does. There is no shortage of judges or other operators who will happily declare that WY's action (if it passes) is illegal, but phasing ICE cars is not.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 23, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)
==
Industry is already getting ready to make EV's obsolete. GM is careening off into permanent bankruptcy and being dissolved by perhaps a CEO more inept than GE's Immelt. Ford seems to maybe start seeing the light, or non0light of EVs.

Toyota, who eventually tore down the US big 3 is happy to do hybrids and some EV stuff, but they are looking in a totally different direction. The rich are starting to fight among themselves, and the Davos crew has the less defensible positions. Going to be fun to watch it all burn down. Can I be on the citizen's juries who determine prison (or worse) for the current govt elites?

Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2023 11:49 AM (UVyKP)

254 lol the side of our Amish that most people don't know about

they do love our English money


The "PA Dutch Market" in Hunt Valley, MD takes credit cards. Those are some advanced Amish. The food is incredibly good though. Blows away anything from regular stores.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:49 AM (ZGrMX)

255 248 Yes, I have heard that about the Amish as well, specifically their poor treatment of horses.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 23, 2023 11:50 AM (ZXbyL)

256 So now soon-President Kamala Harris has eliminated the "life" part of the "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" bit in the Declaration of Independence.


FYI, she also left our the "Endowed by our Creator" part too.


Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 11:50 AM (gmo/4)

257 Also, Earache Earacheson has been a moroon going on over a decade. Idiot who proudly proclaims how smart he is. Fool

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at January 23, 2023 11:50 AM (flINI)

258 Not so much, simply put, feed companies constantly reformulate their ingredients based on market prices for the grains and proteins included in the feed. Examples of substitution would be soybean meal for fish meal, oyster shells instead of calcium, milo aka grain sorghum instead of corn. Milo in particular can cause chickens to reduce production.
Posted by: whig


Buy deer feed. 50 lb sacks of corn. Grind your own.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:50 AM (IV8Hw)

259
On the plus side, Sam's rotisserie chickens are still $4.99 and big as a turkey.

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2023 11:50 AM (j4U/Z)

260 Time for red states to defend universities, defend major administrative branches, and let the left stagger under the weight of our offensive. Posted by: JT Smith at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (FxdZx)

I give it 50-50 that the fiscal crisis will hit before the 2024 election. The Fed will try desperately to stave it off by printing money, which will inevitably result in 1980-style hyperinflation and higher nominal interest rates.

The only answer to the fiscal crisis will be that the federal government just stop entire programs, departments, and agencies. The Democrats will proclaim it as a win that they got a transition period instead of them being defunded altogether.

Asset sales will be on the table, the biggest and fattest of which will be the Treasury's student loan portfolio that can be easily sold to Wall Street. The easiest programs to shut down will be those that are being administered primarily by the states anyway, like Medicaid, housing, and TNF (welfare). Some states will maintain benefit levels and some won't.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 11:51 AM (7B5FA)

261 osted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2023 11:48 AM (2tUFv)

I guess she doesn't realize that without Life why would you need Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2023 11:51 AM (bs+z0)

262 Yes, the postwar world is ending. And interestingly enough it is taking the silly green stuff down with it - which will include EVs. There will be no way to build them, let alone the charging requirements that cannot be met already noted upthread.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2023 11:51 AM (UVyKP)

263 Posted by: Ripleys at January 23, 2023 11:47 AM (cUYo/)

the point of Twitter is to influence, and that one big arm of Big Tech's influencer hydra has now been cut off.

Peterson's tweet got over 300k views, 3k likes in less than a day. It matters that he has the balls to counter the NWO agenda in such a way that puts his career at risk in Commie-fied Canuckistan.

It's really beside the point whether or not harris saw the reply or even wrote the initial tweet.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:52 AM (dCxaZ)

264 The new Prius gets 58 MPG, is faster, and is actually good looking. It's like industry left to itself will make better things.
Posted by: Pope Francis at January 23, 2023 11:44 AM (ZGrMX)


I was reading an article about the new Prius, and was surprised at how much sales for the model had plummeted. They used to sell 200,000+ in the States, and last year they sold less than 35,000. Even for the new one, a mere 35,000 is the sales target.

Posted by: spindrift at January 23, 2023 11:52 AM (h5TKJ)

265
The only answer to the fiscal crisis will be that the federal government just stop entire programs, departments, and agencies. The Democrats will proclaim it as a win that they got a transition period instead of them being defunded altogether.

It needs to happen.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (i0Kzs)

266 Communists and Covidians But you repeat yourself.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (4olE8)

267 248 The Amish are good businessmen.

If you consider "fraud" as a good value, then yes.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (dCxaZ)

268 264 I was reading an article about the new Prius, and was surprised at how much sales for the model had plummeted. They used to sell 200,000+ in the States, and last year they sold less than 35,000. Even for the new one, a mere 35,000 is the sales target.
Posted by: spindrift at January 23, 2023 11:52 AM (h5TKJ)

========

There seems to be a certain trendiness in the purchase of alternatives to ICE vehicles. Prius was the trendy thing. Tesla is the trendy thing now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (LvTSG)

269 I love the idea of the 50s more than I probably would have enjoyed the reality, but damn, does it look wonderful from here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

I was a small child at the end of the 1950's. I remember certain things, images, etc.
If you ever watch the movie "The Best Years of our Lives", that was kind of what the '50's looked like, as it was all disappearing as the 60's arrived, and all the chaos and upwelling that ensued.
Sometimes I watch that movie and all I feel is sad for what is now long gone.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (vcOmj)

270 > So now soon-President Kamala Harris has eliminated the "life" part of the "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" bit in the Declaration of Independence.

Quite deliberate.
Posted by: The ARC of History!



one down, two to go!

Posted by: DB at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (geLO8)

271 The puppy mills and horse abuse are fake Amish.

It's some tinker wearing a costume most all the time.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (1ais2)

272 > FYI, she also left our the "Endowed by our Creator" part too.


Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 11:50 AM (gmo/4)

To be fair, when Commie Lay sees the word "endowed", she thinks of something else entirely.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (bW8dp)

273 I 100% believe most Amish are fake.
Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:43 AM (1ais2)
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good thing we live near the Amish

but now those greedy bastids have extra reason to hike their prices sky-high
Posted by: kallisto


Why don't we stop faffing around and call the "Kulaks and Hoarders" and start the machinery to deal with them.

Because that is where we are going here

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 11:54 AM (xhaym)

274 I give it 50-50 that the fiscal crisis will hit before the 2024 election. The Fed will try desperately to stave it off by printing money, which will inevitably result in 1980-style hyperinflation and higher nominal interest rates.


Why try since they are going to steal the election anyway?

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:54 AM (IV8Hw)

275 I was gypped by those hairy-faced bastids and now I get my revenge in ways I will not describe here.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:54 AM (dCxaZ)

276 265
The only answer to the fiscal crisis will be that the federal government just stop entire programs, departments, and agencies. The Democrats will proclaim it as a win that they got a transition period instead of them being defunded altogether.

It needs to happen.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (i0Kzs)

========

I look forward to Social Security being cut off completely since I've been told since I was 16 that I'd never get it but have to pay into anyway.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:54 AM (LvTSG)

277 >>>Communists and Covidians But you repeat yourself.

Covidians are fundamentally fascists.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 23, 2023 11:54 AM (T/vhV)

278 The "PA Dutch Market" in Hunt Valley, MD takes credit cards. Those are some advanced Amish. The food is incredibly good though. Blows away anything from regular stores.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:49 AM (ZGrMX)

Jfc ppl! Please wake up.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:54 AM (1ais2)

279 Ion power. Aye, we could lean a thing or two from them, Captain.

-- Montgomery Scott

We can't go with dilithium crystal powered cars. We'd have to invade some planet inhabited by giant blue, primitive but wise people to mine for the dilithium.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (FVME7)

280 Instead what we got is a bird flu pandemic wiping out egg producing chickens either directly, or by necessary culling,

------

They keep insisting this is it, but last I heard it only affected ~5% of the egg laying flock.

Article from March:
"Nearly 11.8 million egg-laying hens — three of every 100 in the U.S. flock — have died in outbreaks of highly pathogenic avian influenza"

Article from last week:
"Nearly 58 million birds from commercial and backyard flocks have been wiped out in the U.S. since last February"

5% egg layers not laying eggs = 200% price increase in eggs

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (jzkRn)

281 I was reading an article about the new Prius, and was surprised at how much sales for the model had plummeted. They used to sell 200,000+ in the States, and last year they sold less than 35,000. Even for the new one, a mere 35,000 is the sales target.

You can get a version of the Prius hybrid system in nearly everything Toyota makes now, so it didn't have a lot of a purpose by itself. The media was calling for it to be an EV so it was something at least relatively unique again, but their CEO Akio Toyoda isn't biting.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (ZGrMX)

282 No, they'll "debank" you, and cutoff "benefits" whilst continuing to fund overseas debacles and foreign bondholders.

They don't have to pay you, they have to pay their bosses.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (HAnKi)

283 It's some tinker wearing a costume most all the time.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (1ais2)


nay nay

not in these parts. The puppy mills are real.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (dCxaZ)

284
Instead of killing flocks within a five mile radius, test the affected flock and kill them if necessary. Chickens don't visit the farm down the road. No reason to kill every bird as a precaution.
Posted by: rickb223
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Like influenza in general, bird flu viruses are tricky bastards even down to being carried around by visitors to farms, wild birds, contaminate equipment, and so on.

Birds though in confined houses where most of our egg supply comes from and also broilers (aka eating chicken), are essentially large incubators for the disease.

Same as feedlots and cattle if hoof and mouth disease starts in.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (bDjBG)

285 Based on the bullsh*t articles - solely IMHO and why I cancelled subscriptions (one a gift) - from Consumer Rpts (now over toward the dark side) yes, "they" are coming for gas stoves.

The justification and sampling data is severely flawed or non-existent, but yet it shall be because legal & supportable federal standards for potential stressors and contaminates are no longer required. They are all simply what the minons of the federal government say they shall be with little to no foundation in proof or truth.

Like cash for clunkers, which could reappear someday soon, there'll probably be cash and/or luxury replacement stoves in the future for the deserving.

Eggs are a health benefit. They affect the production of many prepared meals and bakery products; the operation of restuarants, diners and delis; sales and prices in markets, etc. They're the perfect food to control and tax. (Maybe along the line of what OxFam is hoping for through the WEF - not just oil but food, and eggs and egg-related products could be a good start.)

Posted by: Lola at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (p39Z2)

286 I should have said: "neigh neigh"

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (dCxaZ)

287 My tenant has a 2005 Prius in beautiful condition. Somebody gave it to him.

Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (24fqN)

288 The Amish are good businessmen.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Terrible animal stewards.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:48 AM (IV8Hw)


I believe a commenter here once noted that the Amish are the biggest operators of puppy mills in the country.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (AW0uW)

289 > last year they sold less than 35,000

Word got around that no woman has ever gotten wet at the idea of taking a ride in a Prius.

They're like the anti Harley-Davidson or Ferrari.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (bW8dp)

290 David Hogg ☮@davidhogg11
There’s a reason the vast majority of these shooters are male. There is no talking about gun violence without talking about patriarchy.

Does anybody read Hogg boy for the purpose of getting wiser and getting life direction?

Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (eGTCV)

291 The only answer to the fiscal crisis will be that the federal government just stop entire programs, departments, and agencies. The Democrats will proclaim it as a win that they got a transition period instead of them being defunded altogether.

Asset sales will be on the table, the biggest and fattest of which will be the Treasury's student loan portfolio that can be easily sold to Wall Street. The easiest programs to shut down will be those that are being administered primarily by the states anyway, like Medicaid, housing, and TNF (welfare). Some states will maintain benefit levels and some won't.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 11:51 AM (7B5FA)
==
I disagree. There is no fiscal crisis, unless the green's win the environmental wars. At which point all the money men go broke. SO the green's will not be allowed to win.

The US absorbs so much foreign capital, and has the only currency which can act as a global measure of trade that there will not be a fiscal crisis. And our leading idiots in govt know this, so they will continue to take their 10% off the top. And do nothing.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (UVyKP)

292 >>> so everything they want they get
Posted by: torabora


The elites are our betters, dontchaknow?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (VWp7G)

293
Can I be on the citizen's juries who determine prison (or worse) for the current govt elites?
Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2023 11:49 AM (UVyKP)

Oubliettes, and starvation. For some (many), oubliettes + rape dogs.

No other available sentencing options.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (oINRc)

294 Shopping yesterday.
No carrots
no lettuce
no rice cakes?
no soup noodles
no 1% milk

I joke it's like shopping in North Korea. We are all being lulled into accepting the fact that these shortages are "normal".
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at January 23, 2023 11:33 AM (flINI)

Where is this? I was in our local ShopRite this morning and there were no empty shelves. Even apple cinnamon rice cakes were in stock, something I buy every week. Didn't check the 1% milk (I buy the 2%), but even the store brand half and half shelves were full, as was the egg display, over 5 bucks however.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (Zvtjl)

295 I like how that fat tub of shit Erickson can't see his own culpability in the empty shelves directly caused by his bullshit antics.

That fatass gave plenty of air support for NeverTrump for 5 years then stands with his thumb up his butt confused how this economy was killed.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2023 11:57 AM (8dUAs)

296 Does anybody read Hogg boy for the purpose of getting wiser and getting life direction?
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (eGTCV)

Better to watch The View or Joy Reid.

Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2023 11:57 AM (Mz4ED)

297 The bearded-cockroaches in upstate NY used to cut fences to hunt and fish on private land. Had solar panels on their barn.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 23, 2023 11:57 AM (i0Kzs)

298 The puppy mills are real.
Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (dCxaZ)

And the "Amish" are fake!

Wrestle on down and see if they have a farmer tan startting at the wrist!

Do it coward!

I do it in WaWa whenever I see one. The real ones are tough bastards tho.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:57 AM (1ais2)

299 Amish don't carry workmen's comp insurance, they are exempted by the state. So it's hard for normal tradesmen to compete with them. One way they get over and pad their overstuffed pockets.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:57 AM (dCxaZ)

300 So, OT:

I have an Amazon gift card burning a hole in my virtual wallet (work was kind). What's the brightest and best AA battery flashlight? I've got a couple streamlights and a Fenix but looking for any and all moron suggestions. No rechargeable, this time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (XvPQV)

301 > For some (many), oubliettes + rape dogs.

No self-respecting dog is going to rape Eric Swalwell. I just don't see that happening.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (bW8dp)

302 But to be fair the difference between communism and fascism has mostly evaporated.

Communism is "the party controls everything"
Fascism is "the party gets to decide who controls everything"

With the later having some vested hope of some competent people in some parts of the economy. Which is why I think China went with the Fascist model, cause it's authoritarian and tyrannical but you can actually get stuff done too.

Posted by: mikethemoose at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (T/vhV)

303 300 So, OT:

I have an Amazon gift card burning a hole in my virtual wallet (work was kind). What's the brightest and best AA battery flashlight? I've got a couple streamlights and a Fenix but looking for any and all moron suggestions. No rechargeable, this time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (XvPQV)

========

You can buy things other than movies with Amazon gift cards?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

304 Haven't heard a peep about them coming for livestock, banning meat, fertilizer, etc. And I live in the major agricultural state.

Radio silence. Crickets. Years ago, midwestern states either outright banned Margarine, or at minimum did not allow it to be sold dyed yellow. They would provide a dye packet for people to mix it up at home.

Something similar would be the modern equivalent in cattle producing states. No fucking fake food allowed.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (HAnKi)

305 Dessert of the day for the kids...

I feel like the 1980s have returned. Since I'm waiting on my Jello pudding packs from Target, I went ahead and dug out the Jello packs that I had planned to use for a Clue-based murder mystery party that got canceled in December b/c of a medical emergency. So, cherry Jello with whipped cream for the kids, it is. Looking at the ingredients, if you can get past the dyes, Jello is actually a pretty damn straight forward product. Sugar (not corn syrup) is ingredient #1. I'm betting they haven't changed the formula for this for a long time...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (exHjb)

306 Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:57 AM (1ais2)

sure whatever you say

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (dCxaZ)

307 Terrible news for Gerard at https://americandigest.org/

Prayers for a good man.

Posted by: IP at January 23, 2023 11:59 AM (+UIVu)

308 299 Amish don't carry workmen's comp insurance, they are exempted by the state. So it's hard for normal tradesmen to compete with them. One way they get over and pad their overstuffed pockets.
Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:57 AM (dCxaZ)

Wow. Who would ever fake being Amish?

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 11:59 AM (1ais2)

309 5% egg layers not laying eggs = 200% price increase in eggs
Posted by: Egg shortages
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Eggs are used in a wide variety of products as well as for consumers plus you have new state regulations raising prices (also see pork increases as well).

The demand on it is usually inelastic which means that eggs run from incredibly cheap protein to very expensive depending on the supply curve at any given moment. Like most farm products, the prices of inputs must also be reflected which in the case of eggs consist of feed (about 75-80 percent of cost), labor about 10-20 percent (more for cageless), and then various other inputs.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 11:59 AM (bDjBG)

310 I was reading an article about the new Prius, and was surprised at how much sales for the model had plummeted. They used to sell 200,000+ in the States, and last year they sold less than 35,000. Even for the new one, a mere 35,000 is the sales target.

You can get a version of the Prius hybrid system in nearly everything Toyota makes now, so it didn't have a lot of a purpose by itself. The media was calling for it to be an EV so it was something at least relatively unique again, but their CEO Akio Toyoda isn't biting.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 11:55 AM (ZGrMX)
==
No he's not is he. Hmmm.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2023 11:59 AM (UVyKP)

311 Word got around that no woman has ever gotten wet at the idea of taking a ride in a Prius.

They're like the anti Harley-Davidson or Ferrari.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (bW8dp)

Harley Davidson just announced an electric bike

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 12:00 PM (XvPQV)

312 > Wow. Who would ever fake being Amish?

Guys with a sunbonnet fetish?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 12:00 PM (bW8dp)

313 Does anybody read Hogg boy for the purpose of getting wiser and getting life direction?
Posted by: N.Lurker at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (eGTCV)

Better to watch The View or Joy Reid.
Posted by: Roy


Better to stick 18 inch knitting needles in your eyes.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at January 23, 2023 12:00 PM (vcOmj)

314 Where is this? I was in our local ShopRite this morning and there were no empty shelves. Even apple cinnamon rice cakes were in stock, something I buy every week. Didn't check the 1% milk (I buy the 2%), but even the store brand half and half shelves were full, as was the egg display, over 5 bucks however.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (Zvtjl)

If you hit a store with loss leaders or is known for being cheaper at the wrong time, stockers can't keep up and the stores can't keep stuff in stock. I routinely walk my HMart's produce section twice each time i go to see if restocks happen while I'm getting meat and fish b/c produce gets bought so quickly...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 12:01 PM (exHjb)

315 Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (exHjb)

the other day when you posted about baking pineapple upside down cake it brought back memories of my mom baking that classic American dessert...it didn't last too long in our house!

I liked your idea of using the cherry and pineapple juice, too.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)

316 I love the grounded sanity of this blog.

Posted by: Coki at January 23, 2023 12:01 PM (sF55v)

317 It needs to happen. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 23, 2023 11:53 AM (i0Kzs)
I look forward to Social Security being cut off completely since I've been told since I was 16 that I'd never get it but have to pay into anyway. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:54 AM (LvTSG)

@Mr A, it's inevitable. It will be bloody (hopefully not too literally) and ugly getting there, but there is no other alternative that maintains a USA.

@TJM, it's not that broke. Means testing is more likely. We already have a slight amount of backdoor means testing though taxation of SS and limits on Medicare payouts; expect more of those kinds of fudges to be in our future so that if you're low-income, you still get SS, but if you're high-income, you'll de facto not really make that much from it. Ironically, importing young people, if they pay into the system, helps save it.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 12:01 PM (7B5FA)

318 > Instead of killing flocks within a five mile radius,.....
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I thought the FDA required a 40 mile radius. Which would account for the drastic egg shortages in some areas.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2023 12:01 PM (Q4IgG)

319 Better to watch The View or Joy Reid.
Posted by: Roy

Joy Behar Bizarrely Wants Her “Ashes Sprinkled Over Liam Neeson” After She Dies

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The first step is up to you, Joy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 12:02 PM (FVME7)

320 I have an Amazon gift card burning a hole in my virtual wallet (work was kind). What's the brightest and best AA battery flashlight? I've got a couple streamlights and a Fenix but looking for any and all moron suggestions. No rechargeable, this time.

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I have been immensely pleased with this one.

LUMINTOP Pocket-Sized Super Bright Flashlight Set Tool AA 2.0 EDC Flashlight with Magnetic Tail

https://tinyurl.com/2jyzbo3a

I have accumulated four or five since my first purchase. Really great little light, and not a whole lot larger than the AA battery itself.

It comes with a rechargeable battery, but you don't have to use it. It's a clever little battery, though. The usb-c port is right there in the battery itself. Just plug it in like a phone.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 12:02 PM (jzkRn)

321
Go past an Amish school house at recess and the kids in their costumes are cuter than a puppy.

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2023 12:02 PM (j4U/Z)

322 Just to let you know that we aren't the only ones suffering under the WEFs bribery and oppression.

There was a program on Japanese TV this weekend where a WEFthrall was making the argument, that-

the solution to Japan's declining population wasn't having more kids, it was -

having fewer kids.

Let your country, cultural, family collapse to make the WEF and Schwab and Soros happy!

The WEFthrall was very much against getting rid of the laws that make it hard for couples to have children

and against making laws that encourage those who want kids (and it's the majority of people) to have children.

The evil of these people is worldwide.

As ridiculous as Schwab, Soros and the rest of the WEF and their thralls seem. They are deadly serious.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 23, 2023 12:02 PM (KLPy8)

323 316 I love the grounded sanity of this blog.
Posted by: Coki at January 23, 2023 12:01 PM (sF55v)

Thanks man

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 12:02 PM (1ais2)

324 288 The Amish are good businessmen.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Terrible animal stewards.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:48 AM (IV8Hw)

I believe a commenter here once noted that the Amish are the biggest operators of puppy mills in the country.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (AW0uW)

Friends of mine work with iRescue and the condition of some of the animals they get from the Amish is heartbreaking.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 23, 2023 12:02 PM (N39Ws)

325 Do you mean their ICE vehicles? Yeah. No. When you turn off the drill because you have lowered the overall use, it costs waaaay to much to drill. Companies won't do it.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (IV8Hw)


Fun fact... the Wheel of Pain in the movie Conan was them drilling for oil for the elites.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (GYIa4)

326 "What's the brightest and best AA battery flashlight?"

Got an old 1950s 650W movie camera floodlight in the free box at a garage sale. You could maybe gang about 10000 AAs and make it shine for a split second. I only plugged it in once, and it scared TF out of me.

Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (24fqN)

327 Oubliettes, and starvation. For some (many), oubliettes + rape dogs.

No other available sentencing options.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (oINRc)
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OK - after a brief period of consideration I think I can support this idea.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (UVyKP)

328 Where is this? I was in our local ShopRite this morning and there were no empty shelves. Even apple cinnamon rice cakes were in stock, something I buy every week. Didn't check the 1% milk (I buy the 2%), but even the store brand half and half shelves were full, as was the egg display, over 5 bucks however.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (Zvtjl)

Same here in my section of jersey.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (VwHCD)

329 MagLite

Posted by: DB at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (geLO8)

330 Word got around that no woman has ever gotten wet at the idea of taking a ride in a Prius.

They're like the anti Harley-Davidson or Ferrari.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (bW8dp)

Harley Davidson just announced an electric bike

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 12:00 PM (XvPQV)

And the new electric Vette, which will not get them wet.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (OgrpQ)

331 You can buy things other than movies with Amazon gift cards?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

You can even buy food!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (XvPQV)

332 Amish don't carry workmen's comp insurance, they are exempted by the state. So it's hard for normal tradesmen to compete with them. One way they get over and pad their overstuffed pockets.
Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:57 AM (dCxaZ)

Wow. Who would ever fake being Amish?
Posted by: Thesokorus

Harrison Ford?


Yeah, they don't observe child labor laws, either. Go into one of the wood-working shops, where they make furniture. Kids scampering about wearing gym shoes, etc.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (vcOmj)

333 ShopRite is the largest supermarket chain (Wakefern with over 300 Supermarkets) in the NE with the buying power. I guess they can pretty "twist some arms" so their warehouses are stocked. They own their own trucking fleet as well.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at January 23, 2023 12:04 PM (Zvtjl)

334 331 You can buy things other than movies with Amazon gift cards?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

You can even buy food!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (XvPQV)

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What is this new devilry?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Clint Eastwood movies at January 23, 2023 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

335 Sky News Australia has been given permission to pound Brandon in the a%%.

Posted by: torabora at January 23, 2023 12:04 PM (OUiUM)

336 293
Can I be on the citizen's juries who determine prison (or worse) for the current govt elites?
Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2023 11:49 AM (UVyKP)

Oubliettes, and starvation. For some (many), oubliettes + rape dogs.

No other available sentencing options.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (oINRc)

I call for the addition of periodic superficial flesh wounds to be cut into their flesh, then road salt applied to them.

Posted by: XTC at January 23, 2023 12:04 PM (UnA8+)

337 335 Sky News Australia has been given permission to pound Brandon in the a%%.
Posted by: torabora at January 23, 2023 12:04 PM (OUiUM)

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Considering his incontinence, not recommended.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being extravagant with Erich von Stroheim at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (LvTSG)

338 Buy deer feed. 50 lb sacks of corn. Grind your own.
Posted by: rickb223
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Corn only is not particularly a good feed for chickens--you need some sort of protein in it--bugs/worms for example but not always in season, soybean meal, (can't remember whether cottonseed meal is suitable or not), fish meal, or some other animal byproduct, and a source of calcium for the shells.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (bDjBG)

339 Eggs are used in a wide variety of products as well as for consumers plus you have new state regulations raising prices (also see pork increases as well).

The demand on it is usually inelastic which means that eggs run from incredibly cheap protein to very expensive depending on the supply curve at any given moment. Like most farm products, the prices of inputs must also be reflected which in the case of eggs consist of feed (about 75-80 percent of cost), labor about 10-20 percent (more for cageless), and then various other inputs.

Posted by: whig

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Yep. I'm betting more on feed, medicine, energy, and labor than I am a bird flu.

What did y'all think was going to happen when you insisted low and no skilled employees be paid as much as starting auto technicians?

I also think this is another way to wash out the middle class. Inflation of dollars + dollars disappear simply buying food... We're already getting a glimpse of Great Depression living. It's not going to get better.

Posted by: Egg shortages are easily recognized by the overabundance of eggs on grocers shelves at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (jzkRn)

340 Harley Davidson just announced an electric bike
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 12:00 PM (XvPQV)

It doesn't move, the 2400 watts are just for making an engine sound.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (44ww/)

341 I thought the FDA required a 40 mile radius. Which would account for the drastic egg shortages in some areas.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


Whatever it is is bullshit. Same as anything else the government has mandated without any real study. (Just pulling a number out of their ass)

You sure it HAS to be forty? Would 37 work? Or are they just picking a number?

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (IV8Hw)

342 Amish don't carry workmen's comp insurance, they are exempted by the state. So it's hard for normal tradesmen to compete with them. One way they get over and pad their overstuffed pockets.
Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 11:57 AM (dCxaZ)


Is this a problem of regulatory burden or on greedy amish?

This is pissing me off, do you know what "othering" is and its role in genocide? Take a good look at what your instincts are, and tell me how they are different from the current South African's take on those greedy, insular, Boer farmers.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (xhaym)

343 315 Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 11:58 AM (exHjb)

the other day when you posted about baking pineapple upside down cake it brought back memories of my mom baking that classic American dessert...it didn't last too long in our house!

I liked your idea of using the cherry and pineapple juice, too.
Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)

Thanks - it's become one of my favorite cakes, that I'll actually eat vs just making for the kids. I tell myself pineapple and cherries are great for the immune system...and it's good to have a sweet every now and then, as long as it's now and then.

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (exHjb)

344 Harley Davidson just announced an electric bike.
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In other words, they are about to shutter the business.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (ZPts8)

345 316 I love the grounded sanity of this blog.
Posted by: Coki at January 23, 2023 12:01 PM (sF55v)

It keeps the arcing down.

Posted by: GFCI at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (4I/2K)

346 Radio propaganda is all excited today about new boosters and ways of delivering them and getting people to comply. They just can't quit. Like drug addicts or something.

Posted by: Ripleys at January 23, 2023 12:06 PM (cUYo/)

347 Years ago I bought a playset from the amish and they came to install it in the backyard. Small talking with them I offered them a beer and asked why they were wearing flannels because it was so fucking hot outside. I think, at that point, I did not know too much about the amish

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at January 23, 2023 12:06 PM (flINI)

348 Harley Davidson just announced an electric bike.
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In other words, they are about to shutter the business.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (ZPts

Bingo.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2023 12:06 PM (VwHCD)

349 nood, inevitably.

Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 23, 2023 12:06 PM (24fqN)

350 The US absorbs so much foreign capital, and has the only currency which can act as a global measure of trade that there will not be a fiscal crisis. And our leading idiots in govt know this, so they will continue to take their 10% off the top. And do nothing. Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (UVyKP)

True, but the foreign capital hasn't been enough since Obama. The only thing that has been propping up the Treasury for the past decade plus is the Fed printing money and buying the Treasury debt (monetizing the deficit, which has become structural). The Minneapolis Fed has done some tough numbers about debt service and they've published it. There is a limit to how long that can go on, and we are damned close to it.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 12:07 PM (7B5FA)

351 I had assumed they were gas explosions but learned later that every single fire was electrical.

Posted by: Emmie at January 23, 2023 11:27 AM (Emce2)

Wiring in Victorian buildings often had paper or fabric insulation. Was often out in very haphazardly as well. And then there's aluminum wiring from the 60s or 70s that caused a lot of house fires as well. I heard a rumor recently that they're allowing aluminum again. Hope that's incorrect.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 23, 2023 12:07 PM (nC+QA)

352 Harley Davidson just announced an electric bike
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at January 23, 2023 12:00 PM (XvPQV)

It doesn't move, the 2400 watts are just for making an engine sound.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

Couldn't they just stick a card in the spokes?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2023 at January 23, 2023 12:07 PM (FVME7)

353 This is pissing me off, do you know what "othering" is and its role in genocide? Take a good look at what your instincts are, and tell me how they are different from the current South African's take on those greedy, insular, Boer farmers.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 12:05 PM (xhaym)

This is exactly why I am so insistent on waking ppl up to the fake Amish menace.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 12:07 PM (1ais2)

354 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 23, 2023 12:08 PM (9gDA7)

355 328 Where is this? I was in our local ShopRite this morning and there were no empty shelves. Even apple cinnamon rice cakes were in stock, something I buy every week. Didn't check the 1% milk (I buy the 2%), but even the store brand half and half shelves were full, as was the egg display, over 5 bucks however.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (Zvtjl)

Same here in my section of jersey.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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It may be that the empty shelves occurrence is in stores with a high percentage of food stamp customers. McDonalds and other fast food places are approaching $10 bucks for a meal for one person depending on location.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2023 12:08 PM (bDjBG)

356 Where is this? I was in our local ShopRite this morning and there were no empty shelves. Even apple cinnamon rice cakes were in stock, something I buy every week. Didn't check the 1% milk (I buy the 2%), but even the store brand half and half shelves were full, as was the egg display, over 5 bucks however.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at January 23, 2023 11:56 AM (Zvtjl)

Same here in my section of jersey.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (VwHCD)

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At a Food Lion in MD. I think the poorly run stores are more affected that the good ones. It is convenient so I go there

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at January 23, 2023 12:08 PM (flINI)

357 347 Years ago I bought a playset from the amish and they came to install it in the backyard. Small talking with them I offered them a beer and asked why they were wearing flannels because it was so fucking hot outside. I think, at that point, I did not know too much about the amish
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When the Jehovah Witnesses come by bring out your Quija Board and ask them to join you.

Posted by: Puddinhead at January 23, 2023 12:08 PM (GKqIR)

358 You sure it HAS to be forty? Would 37 work? Or are they just picking a number?
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt


Social distancing for chickens. The laying farms are just mass spreader events!

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at January 23, 2023 12:08 PM (vcOmj)

359 Yeah, they don't observe child labor laws, either. Go into one of the wood-working shops, where they make furniture. Kids scampering about wearing gym shoes, etc.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at January 23, 2023 12:03 PM (vcOmj)


USDoL regs don't apply to family on the farm.

This is really pissing me off. Replace Amish with Vaxx hesitant and get back to me.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 12:09 PM (xhaym)

360 Corn only is not particularly a good feed for chickens--you need some sort of protein in it--bugs/worms for example but not always in season, soybean meal, (can't remember whether cottonseed meal is suitable or not), fish meal, or some other animal byproduct, and a source of calcium for the shells.
Posted by: whig

That's why I also said upthread to go to a real gardening center where you can buy the bugs and release them. Let your chickens free range during the day.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 12:09 PM (IV8Hw)

361 Communism is "the party controls everything"
Fascism is "the party gets to decide who controls everything"

That's a great way to describe it, but it blows the mind of a lot of people. The latter is soft power compared with the former. Of course both are insatiable vampires so the differences are not significant.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 23, 2023 12:10 PM (44ww/)

362 True, but the foreign capital hasn't been enough since Obama. The only thing that has been propping up the Treasury for the past decade plus is the Fed printing money and buying the Treasury debt (monetizing the deficit, which has become structural). The Minneapolis Fed has done some tough numbers about debt service and they've published it. There is a limit to how long that can go on, and we are damned close to it.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 23, 2023 12:07 PM (7B5FA)
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I've been reading a fair amount of regional Fed bank stuff, though nothing from Minneapolis - so I'll add them to the list. Philly took on the BLS employment numbers, and St. Louis took on GDP. I'll check that out. But I still think the fiscal stuff remains chicken little stuff, we've been screaming on it since I was a boy - and always have been wrong.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2023 12:12 PM (UVyKP)

363 How is it that Eric Erickson is considered a conservative Christian? I have never seen his eyes on the Cross . He is a conossieur of the jot and tiddle. That might qualify him as a conservative pharisee

Posted by: Sock Monkey * I used to rock, sometimes I'd roll at January 23, 2023 12:12 PM (YZKkM)

364 Is this a problem of regulatory burden or on greedy amish?

This is pissing me off, do you know what "othering" is and its role in genocide? Take a good look at what your instincts are, and tell me how they are different from the current South African's take on those greedy, insular, Boer farmers.
Posted by: Kindltot

I get along fine with the Amish when I have dealt with them. They are generally a moral people. But hold on to your wallet, because they are very shrewd bargainers.
There is a big settlement of Amish in Holmes County, in northeastern Ohio. My wife and I have bought a lot of really nice furniture from an Amish furniture store up there. Great quality, and very good value.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at January 23, 2023 12:13 PM (vcOmj)

365 And the new electric Vette, which will not get them wet.

The announced electric Vette is a hybrid, not an EV.

And it's adorable that you think modern women get wet for anything other than Democrat politicians.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2023 12:13 PM (ZGrMX)

366 I'm thinking I need to move my burning barrel behind the hill

Posted by: Sock Monkey * I used to rock, sometimes I'd roll at January 23, 2023 12:17 PM (YZKkM)

367 USDoL regs don't apply to family on the farm.

This is really pissing me off. Replace Amish with Vaxx hesitant and get back to me.
Posted by: Kindltot


You seem upset. The Amish also refused the Vax. They share the same cup at Communion, and spread it around, took their losses and now they are over it. They accepted it for what it was, and now have that magical "herd immunity" that we keep hearing about.
A lot of Amish also work as contractors and sub-contractors in the building trades, and that's where you see the lack of observing child labor laws creep in. It's not about farm labor, it's about other commercial work that they do.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at January 23, 2023 12:17 PM (vcOmj)

368 This is pissing me off, do you know what "othering" is and its role in genocide? Take a good look at what your instincts are, and tell me how they are different from the current South African's take on those greedy, insular, Boer farmers.

wth

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 12:18 PM (dCxaZ)

369 That's why I also said upthread to go to a real gardening center where you can buy the bugs and release them. Let your chickens free range during the day.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at January 23, 2023 12:09 PM (IV8Hw)


One source for bugs and grubs is a compost heap. Black Soldier Fly maggots and red wriggler worms, both. Also food scraps.
One of the options is to do a lacto-ferment of some of the feed, and in the summer you can sprout your corn before feeding it the birds, they like the extra green and the roots

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 12:18 PM (xhaym)

370 wth
Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 12:18 PM (dCxaZ)


Was that a bad taste joke? It sounded like it was from 4chan with Amish substituting Jew

Sorry if I misunderstood your joke.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 12:20 PM (xhaym)

371 This is exactly why I am so insistent on waking ppl up to the fake Amish menace.

ryfkm

my experience with the Amish is that they are very real. They run a farmer's market, Booth's Corner, basicallly one Amish family runs all the stands. Wouldn't anyone there be able to suss out who the IMPOSTOR was?

And there is a pet store there that sells puppies that come from puppy mills and they do a brisk business and nobody gaf about it at all.

And I applaud them for refusing the vaxx. They don't have the incidence of autism in their ranks, some attribute this lack of autism to the Amish refusal to jab their babies.

So as you can see, I am not the leader of the Anti-Amish jihad that some moron here believes I am.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 12:22 PM (dCxaZ)

372 Strange. All the grocery stores around here are packed to the gills with products, including eggs and meat. Looks like some of you need to start looking more closely at problems closer to home.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2023 12:22 PM (BdMk6)

373 Sorry if I misunderstood your joke.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2023 12:20 PM (xhaym)


I don't know what you think I'm joking about. It's true that the Amish around here are very wealthy. They get exemptions from fees, insurance, etc. that the "English" do not. It's true that I was defrauded by one of them, and it's true that their contractors are exempt from workman's comp.

So I don't know why you think I'm joking and I don't see how you are making a great leap about Jew-hate.

Are you Amish? Fine. Make a hundred bad taste jokes about Italians, talk about how some dago defrauded you and then we're even.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 12:25 PM (dCxaZ)

374 *Everybody's so sensitive anymore, a moronette can't say shit.*

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 12:27 PM (dCxaZ)

375 I am thinking that at least one, possibly two of the Big Three American auto manufacturers will be out of business within 10 years, which is fine, I guess. I will just buy foreign nameplates assembled in the US.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) blurts at January 23, 2023 12:33 PM (yQpMk)

376 If you ever watch "The Great Gatsby" and "The Red Badge of Courage" and "War and Peace," those were kind of about the 1950's too. Jesus Christ Almighty.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 23, 2023 12:35 PM (jYCXf)

377 So as you can see, I am not the leader of the Anti-Amish jihad that some moron here believes I am.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 12:22 PM (dCxaZ)

Pies are good at Booth's.

Amish exist.

There are an incredible amount of fake amish wearing costumes and scamming ppl.

Posted by: Thesokorus at January 23, 2023 12:40 PM (1ais2)

378 Amish America dot com: Amish exemptions
Amish do receive an exemption from Social Security, signing away the right to receive Social Security benefits in the process. Amish were granted exemption from participation in Social Security in recognition of the fact that Amish communities care for their old and infirm. Amish also consider programs such as Social Security to be insurance programs, which contradict Amish beliefs against participating in commercial insurance.

Though they are generally exempted from Social Security, in some cases Amish may in fact be required to pay Social Security taxes. This may happen when working for a business that is of mixed Amish and non-Amish ownership. Amish business owners are also required to pay Social Security taxes when employing non-Amish workers, or Amish youth that have not yet been baptized in the church.

In some states Amish are also exempt from participating in Worker’s Compensation insurance programs as well. Amish employers and the community typically help to take care of the injured and sick as well as their families.
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There are also differences between Menonites & Amish.

Posted by: Lola at January 23, 2023 12:41 PM (p39Z2)

379 Wow. Who would ever fake being Amish?

"Weird Al" Yankovic

Posted by: Archer at January 23, 2023 12:41 PM (gmo/4)

380 There are an incredible amount of fake amish wearing costumes and scamming ppl.

where though? I honestly have never heard of one incident. With SE PA being an Amish-rich location, wouldn't I have heard of at least one incident? My coworker is "Amish adjacent"...she claims Amish heritage but her folks never took up all the religious mores and customs. But all I ever heard about was her Amish cooking and Amish this and Amish that. And she does have legit Amish cousins in Lancaster County.

I never once heard her mention an incident of someone faking being Amish.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2023 12:44 PM (dCxaZ)

381 337. Booth's Corner???

Was originally farmer owned, opened for Amish merchants and others to sell their goods. Now not just Amish but Mennonite, Brethern, and many other merchants.

Posted by: Lola at January 23, 2023 12:50 PM (p39Z2)

382 Bottom line: Erickson is an idiot.

Posted by: ERC at January 23, 2023 01:13 PM (kbtt+)

383 He's a special kind of stupid if he doesn't understand basic factors affecting supply chain.

Posted by: YaHump at January 23, 2023 02:25 PM (UVJQE)

384 Narrator voice: "But no, they could not help but punish the farming sector, the ranching sector, and the energy sector for having the poor taste to help keep millions of people alive."

So no, it's not coming back.

Posted by: Isolden at January 23, 2023 02:56 PM (dB99g)

385 ref empty shelves.

No carrots today at the local HEB.

NO
CARROTS

Posted by: comradearthur at January 23, 2023 03:45 PM (ttOM0)

386 Just the Globalists wanting America to become a third world nation with China running it all

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