John Hayward/Doc_0: What's Really Behind the Left's Mad Rush to Legitimize P3dophilia

John Hayward
@Doc_0
The drive to normalize pedophilia, dovetailing with the longstanding left-wing push to sexualize children to separate them from parents, is one of the biggest, best-funded, and most aggressive culture war offensives to date, but it was largely conducted in secret until now.
This junk didn't START during the pandemic - that's when it was DISCOVERED by parents who looked over their kids' shoulders and were horrified to discover what was on those remote-learning screens. Kids were hit with years of sexual and political indoctrination before that.
Outraged parents who formed grassroots pushback movements were stunned to discover huge batteries of political artillery were already pointed at their scrappy little bands. They realized they were belatedly joining a battle that was long in progress - nearly over, in fact.
Sexualizing children is important to the Left because it separates them from their parents. As we've finally been discovering, thanks to some courageous samizdat citizen reporting, sexual indoctrinators in schools almost invariably tell the kids NOT to talk with their parents.
That's not just to prevent outraged parents from banding together and putting a stop to this offensive garbage. It's psych warfare, deliberately alienating kids from parents, tradition, and community. Statist control is rebranded as a cool secret club kids are pressured to join.
You can understand this agenda by considering the factors that contribute to healthy society and robust growth - stable families with multiple children, which in turn requires solid marriages at relatively young ages - and reverse engineering it to get the formula for despair.
What the hard Left hates about that recipe for healthy society is that it breeds independence from the State, with wealth and tradition passed down through generations. Robust families build strong communities, diminishing State power and refuting collectivist ideologies.
As a matter of simple math and biology, populations don't grow unless a sizable number of couples have more than two kids - and that growth isn't healthy unless the parents stay together. It's tough to have three kids unless a couple starts relatively early in life.
If people do follow this much-maligned, relentlessly savaged "traditional family" program, the result tends to be families that build generational wealth - both tangible property, and assets such as family connections, which are very helpful to young people leaving the nest.
It's fascinating how much of "traditional morality" contributes to, or flows from, this simple need for young families to raise multiple children. Of course that makes sense, since those codes and customs developed over centuries of human experience.
Among those codes and customs are the way we treat children in a healthy society. We protect their innocence and prepare them for adult life by passing down traditions and wisdom. Childhood is so important precisely because it must end. It matters a great deal how and when.
The Left understands all of this, and deliberately attacks it at every point of stress. Reverse everything laid out in the previous tweets and you have exactly what's happening in schools today, including the obliteration of childhood through sexual indoctrination.
There are good reasons those healthy family traditions have been relentlessly maligned and savaged for generations now, until the very idea of "family values" was dismissed with contempt. These people knew exactly what they were doing, and it worked.
Normalizing outright pedophilia is the next logical step in the crusade to tear children away from their parents, setting them up for a grim adolescence and programming them to reject everything that could ease their transition into healthy adulthood.
In pedophiles and their enablers, we have a relatively small but highly motivated army that wants nothing more than to separate kids from their families in every possible way. They're the perfect shock troops, eager to hit the beaches and start fighting.
They're flanked by a much larger, and only slightly less motivated, phalanx of committed leftists who devoutly believe children should be sexualized by operatives of the State and ruling Party, not their parents - and it must happen EARLY, before traditional values set in.
Of course that larger movement would inevitably make room for pedophiles of various proclivities - they're natural ideological allies. At the very least, the indoctrinators will look away from the groomers and work very hard to not notice how much they enjoy their work. /end

Part of this is a bizarre notion held by (what else) AWFL women that everyone in the world needs to be "sexually liberated," as if we're not drowning in the filthy residuum of sexual liberation already.

And, as usual, this is a massive case of projection on the case of the AWFLs: When the AWFLs say "we" need to be sexually liberated, what they should be talking about is loosening up their own tight-assed f***ed-up sexually hung-up bullsh!t and leaving everyone else -- especially the children -- out of their own creepy/frigid shit.

Why do the children have to have a drag queen's **** wagged in their faces just because you can't come, Bethany? How does x fix y?

Below, a really good video by Sh0eOnHead, who kind of kicked this off. (Well I think Sh0e actually got it from Brittany Venti.)

Sh0e on head is very pro-gay, and has been trying to make sure that p3dophilia is not associated with gays, but she can't help noticing, it's the "Gay Allies" who seem most invested in associating p3dophilia with gays, insisting that anytime you object to p3dophilia, you're "attacking gays."

No matter how many times you say, as she does, "I'm doing this to make sure people don't associate the two, and to make sure the 'MAPs' do not get to 'Add the P' to the LGBT+ alphabet soup."

But the left, and the "Gay Allies," seem determined at this point: They're going to "Add the P."

She makes one more good point: The left engages in a lot of whattaboutism whenever p3dophilia is at issue. They start saying "But whattabout Child Beauty Pageants?," for example.

She points out, however, that Child Beauty Pageants -- dressing up young girls inappropriately sexily, and inappropriately maturely for their age -- is no different than how girls were tarted up in the Netflix movie Cuties.

But the Sexual Left all defended Cuties! The Sexual Left is saying "but whattabout Child Beauty Pageants," as if people criticizing p3dophilia are all big fans of child beauty pageants, but when the left had the opportunity to object to a filmed and highly, highly sexualized child beauty pageant on Netflix, they instead chose to... champion it, as a wonderful expression of nine-year-old-girls' powerful sexualities.

And I feel disgusting I just wrote that.

But that's what they said.

So don't whattabout us, Sexual Left. You just sexualize children any chance you get.

You don't mind child beauty pageants -- you just don't like that they're Southern. When they were French and "diverse," you couldn't stop applauding.

Posted by: Ace at 03:00 PM

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Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:00 PM (+MZFq)

2 Boomshakalaka

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:00 PM (+MZFq)

3 Gonna read

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:01 PM (+MZFq)

4 ShoeOnHead pair up with some conservative Chad again?

Because the last one literally banged a lot of sense into her.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:02 PM (lc5cP)

5 So many pedo and pedo-adjacent, so many lampposts.

A perfect fit.

Posted by: The_Hoser at December 16, 2022 03:02 PM (N66D6)

6 If this doesn't start to get people hurt then nothing will.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at December 16, 2022 03:02 PM (53oGX)

7 Sh0e got annoying real fast.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:02 PM (+MZFq)

8 Reminder, MAP is an acronym for Minor Attracted PEDOPHILE.

Posted by: rd at December 16, 2022 03:02 PM (Z32m1)

9 The left normalizes perversion because leftist men can't get laid by any chick with morals or a brain. They, like their simian forefathers, see only the low hanging fruit, and know that by keeping abortion cheap and legal, they can dodge responsibility for paying too much.

Posted by: Don Draper at December 16, 2022 03:02 PM (SXH3O)

10 Evil cannot abide with innocence and must destroy it.

Posted by: huerfano at December 16, 2022 03:03 PM (dTFZY)

11 The drive to normalize xxxxxxxxxx, dovetailing with the longstanding left-wing push to sexualize children to separate them from parents, is one of the biggest, best-funded, and most aggressive culture war offensives to date, but it was largely conducted in secret until now.
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The crazy part is that we were just sort of hypothesizing about it - although stating it seriously - not even five years ago. And it turns out it we were 100% right.

No wonder the whole Pizzagate thing hit home like it did.

Posted by: Press Juan For English - There is no path to 270, not even counting GA and NC cheating at December 16, 2022 03:03 PM (kIrFD)

12 And of course MAPs were on the agenda somewhere after the normalization of homosexuality - hell all those "crazy right wing slippery slope conspiracy theory" types said so back when we were debating gay marriage.

Male homosexuals, in aggregate, "like 'em young". If you don't give them access to teens you are still "oppressing them" with your "bourgeoisie norms"

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:03 PM (lc5cP)

13 The drive to normalize pedophilia, dovetailing with the longstanding left-wing push to sexualize children to separate them from parents, is one of the biggest, best-funded, and most aggressive culture war offensives to date, but it was largely conducted in secret until now.

People have been saying this for years. Decades, even. Conservatives have pointed out that this crap was occurring in Europe, as far back as the early to mid twentieth-century.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:05 PM (wmDcS)

14 And yeah part of our cultural problem is a bunch of AWFLs that hate their husbands and won't have sex with them.

They take that pent up emotion and turn it into anger at the world.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:05 PM (lc5cP)

15 Posted by: Press Juan For English - There is no path to 270, not even counting GA and NC cheating at December 16, 2022 03:03 PM (kIrFD)

Life is stranger than fiction

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:05 PM (+MZFq)

16 Remember the old saying, "the only thing that could stop them now is a dead girl or a live boy?"...turns out that doesn't really apply to our modern elites does it?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:06 PM (lc5cP)

17 How many abused children carry on the same behavior when they are adults?

That is why pedos need to found and isolated from society.

Posted by: rd at December 16, 2022 03:07 PM (Z32m1)

18 So glad my children and grandchildren are all grown and don't go for this crap.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2022 03:07 PM (ZEa+g)

19 David French just needs to get off, and David French runs Bartertown.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:07 PM (LvTSG)

20 And yeah part of our cultural problem is a bunch of AWFLs that hate their husbands and won't have sex with them.

They take that pent up emotion and turn it into anger at the world.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:05 PM (lc5cP)

I blame Sex and the City. A lot of women under the age of 50 were promised a world where they would have incredible sex with wealthy, handsome men, and then they found themselves married to the average schlub and living in the suburbs and they are pissed about it.

That, and they are playing constant status games amongst each other, where the only way to temporarily win is to go harder left than their friends and associates.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:07 PM (wmDcS)

21 That is why pedos need to found and isolated from society.

You want them...something something lampposts

You'll settle for isolated from society.

You'll get them running the schools.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:08 PM (lc5cP)

22 Cliff's Notes version:

What the hard Left hates about that recipe for healthy society is that it breeds independence from the State, with wealth and tradition passed down through generations. Robust families build strong communities, diminishing State power and refuting collectivist ideologies.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2022 03:09 PM (eOEVl)

23 Everybody thinks child beauty pageants are creepy, it's a niche and like ace said mostly Southern thing.

Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:09 PM (B2DjU)

24 Sh0e got annoying real fast.
Posted by: thathalfrican

Nahhhh.... :->....

Posted by: SFGoth at December 16, 2022 03:10 PM (KAi1n)

25 Everybody thinks child beauty pageants are creepy, it's a niche and like ace said mostly Southern thing.

*raises hand to signal agreement*

Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2022 03:10 PM (eOEVl)

26 The rabid defense of Cuties was a thing I could not understand.

Mostly because I underestimated what scumbags these people are.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 16, 2022 03:10 PM (d1p/J)

27 They NEED to decriminalize and normalize to keep themselves out of prison. So they push the weirdo trannies out in front and put them in jobs in government to soften up the opposition. It's a Long March. It's all part of the WEF agenda.

Posted by: torabora at December 16, 2022 03:11 PM (Y274z)

28 Lol Shoe's bald ass isn't ever going to land a "Chad" again she's more likely to end up with Vaush

Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:11 PM (B2DjU)

29 And, as usual, this is a massive case of projection on the case of the AWFLs: When the AWFLs say "we" need to be sexually liberated, what they should be talking about is loosening up their own tight-assed f***ed-up sexually hung-up bullsh!t and leaving everyone else -- especially the children -- out of their own creepy/frigid shit.

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This also explains the success of the Fifty Shades of Grey books and movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:11 PM (LvTSG)

30 A lot of women under the age of 50 were promised a world where they would have incredible sex with wealthy, handsome men,

Who promised whom?
I had a plan to be that wealthy, handsome man. Then I turned 17 and woke up.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2022 03:11 PM (9uCBG)

31 ShoeOnHead is amazingly cute. I can't watch the video or any of hers without getting distracted.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:11 PM (J2vNu)

32 9 The left normalizes perversion because leftist men can't get laid by any chick with morals or a brain. They, like their simian forefathers, see only the low hanging fruit, and know that by keeping abortion cheap and legal, they can dodge responsibility for paying too much.
Posted by: Don Draper at December 16, 2022 03:02 PM (SXH3O)

There's a high ratio of women to men on the left. The men seem unlikely as a driving force.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:12 PM (eYoxG)

33 Part of this is a bizarre notion held by (what else) AWFL women that everyone in the world needs to be "sexually liberated," as if we're not drowning in the filthy residuum of sexual liberation already.
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Regret-projection is probably a part of it. A lot of them middle-aged, unmarried or divorced, no longer in their attractiveness prime, embittered and suffering.

But they couldn't have made the wrong choice, so leading others into that same choice has a certain depraved logic to it. Misery loves company.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:12 PM (t0OGg)

34 Sexual interest in children is not exclusive to the Left. What some would call hillbilly culture or some charismatic, Christian sects, yeah, interest in young girls.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 16, 2022 03:12 PM (KAi1n)

35 If you are banning gay marriage you don't have to argue about "tranny rights"

If you are banning "tranny rights" you don't have to argue about "MAP rights"

and because the GOPe has given up on both of those we are about to argue about MAPs and lose the fight.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:12 PM (lc5cP)

36 Everybody thinks child beauty pageants are creepy, it's a niche and like ace said mostly Southern thing.
Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:09 PM (B2DjU

Creepy or not at least they're not crossdressing the kids. Yet.

Posted by: torabora at December 16, 2022 03:12 PM (Y274z)

37 29 And, as usual, this is a massive case of projection on the case of the AWFLs: When the AWFLs say "we" need to be sexually liberated, what they should be talking about is loosening up their own tight-assed f***ed-up sexually hung-up bullsh!t and leaving everyone else -- especially the children -- out of their own creepy/frigid shit.

=========

This also explains the success of the Fifty Shades of Grey books and movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:11 PM (LvTSG)

So... Pride and Prejudice... self-insert plus wish fulfillment?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:12 PM (eYoxG)

38 Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:11 PM (B2DjU)

*blackguysfreakingout.gif*

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:13 PM (+MZFq)

39 dressing up young girls inappropriately sexily, and inappropriately maturely for their age -

There's a creepy tv ad for eczema pills using this technique.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 16, 2022 03:13 PM (DteU4)

40 You don't mind child beauty pageants -- you just don't like that they're Southern. When they were French and "diverse," you couldn't stop applauding.
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The French are sophisticated, Ace.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:13 PM (t0OGg)

41 It takes two to tango and I imagine most AWFLs are bad, selfish, lazy lovers.

Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:13 PM (B2DjU)

42
OK, so it's GI Joe's for the girls this Christmas and Barbies for the boys.

Except there's gonna be no Christmas and can't define boy or girl.

Posted by: Auspex at December 16, 2022 03:13 PM (j4U/Z)

43 Sexualizing children is important to the Left because it separates them from their parents. As we've finally been discovering, thanks to some courageous samizdat citizen reporting, sexual indoctrinators in schools almost invariably tell the kids NOT to talk with their parents.
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One of the more important lessons parents need to teach children is, "if someone tells you to NOT tell me something, that is dangerous and it is something that you MUST tell me."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:13 PM (t0OGg)

44 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:11 PM (J2vNu)

She reminds me of boxxy

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:13 PM (+MZFq)

45 Ted Bundy was merely a CCAP or what you might call a “Cute Cadaver Attracted Person.”

Posted by: Rex B at December 16, 2022 03:14 PM (VYFTW)

46 But the left, and the "Gay Allies," seem determined at this point: They're going to "Add the P."

This progression is natural, organic, inevitable. Conservatives somehow convinced themselves in the late 90s and early 00s that they could be a little pregnant, they could sip a little penis and not go full-on Folsom Street Fair. And present day is the consequence. Things could have been different, but unilateral disarmament, surrender, and hope of mercy was not much of a plan.

TL;DR version: America had a choice and it chose, and now it's getting what it asked for good and hard.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 16, 2022 03:14 PM (ppBhU)

47 ShoeOnHead pair up with some conservative Chad again?

Because the last one literally banged a lot of sense into her.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:02 PM

She still insists that she's a socialist, and as ace points out, no matter how many times she says she's about not letting the P's get a seat at the happy fun gay table, she hasn't cottoned on to the reality that she and the tiny minority don't get to make that call. The people she claims to embrace politically, are cheerleading for the people she claims to hate. She has a lot more sense that needs to be banged into her.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2022 03:14 PM (Wnv9h)

48 ShoeOnHead pair up with some conservative Chad again?

Because the last one literally banged a lot of sense into her.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:02 PM (lc5cP)

I've seen a few of her videos and not once was there a shoe involved, much less on her head.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:14 PM (eoQWY)

49 A lot of women under the age of 50 were promised a world where they would have incredible sex with wealthy, handsome men,

Amusingly if not for liberalism American men would be a lot wealthier, less effeminate if not necessary more handsome and well I don't really know how good the sex was before the new left but I do notice that there were a lot more kids so they were certainly having some...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:14 PM (lc5cP)

50 They NEED to decriminalize and normalize to keep themselves out of prison. So they push the weirdo trannies out in front and put them in jobs in government to soften up the opposition. It's a Long March. It's all part of the WEF agenda.
Posted by: torabora

Don't worry about prison. Worry about meeting an uncle or grandfather. Because if you do, you'll never see the inside of a prison.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2022 03:14 PM (9uCBG)

51 Sexual interest in children is not exclusive to the Left. What some would call hillbilly culture

I'm right here you know.

Posted by: Afghanistan at December 16, 2022 03:14 PM (DteU4)

52 There's a creepy tv ad for eczema pills using this technique.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 16, 2022

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Oh, yeah -- the one about dancing and soccer.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (J2vNu)

53 Good post by John Hayward. I have a much simpler explanation for why the left is so excited about sexualizing children: because they're dirty perverted criminals who fantasize about sex with kids.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (iFTx/)

54 Discovery channel is also trying to blur the lines a bit. TLC for a while has had their creepy shows, remember they were the ones who first starred promoting shows about 12 year old trannies.

Well now there's been many commercials for this show about a woman, in her 20s, that has a disease that makes her look like a child. At first the commercials were just about her struggles being treated like a kid, but thre last week or so more of the commercials are about her like dancing at gay pride parades and other sexual things.

Discovery knows they probably can't get away with overtly sexualizing children any longer, since there's finally pushback against it, so they're going to do the next thing, get adults who haven't physically grown from their child forms, and put them out there for these pedophiles to fap over.

Posted by: Rbastid at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (jfjoa)

55 Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 16, 2022 03:14 PM (ppBhU)

Folsom street fair……..

God bless zombie for doing the work I wouldn’t and offering a semi-SFW link

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (+MZFq)

56 It's fascinating how much of "traditional morality" contributes to, or flows from, this simple need for young families to raise multiple children. Of course that makes sense, since those codes and customs developed over centuries of human experience.
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Courtship, marriage, sex and the rearing of children are the oldest traditions in any culture because everything else is downstream. The successful cultures find something that works and as a result those cultures survive.

You should be most cautious when considering changes to those structures, because when you change them, you are truly messing with primal forces.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (t0OGg)

57 It's all part of my plan

Posted by: Stan at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (flINI)

58

GLAAD
@glaad
Dragphobia is on the Rise: "There is clear and present danger against our community and threats... we really haven't seen it at this level in over a decade, if ever."

https://tinyurl.com/ps9zheh3

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (63Dwl)

59 How dare you compare June the Shoe to our goddess boxxy!!

But yeah shoe is boxxy 2.0

Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (B2DjU)

60 Shoeonhead! Whatever happened to Minksy or Jinksy, or whatever? What about Boxey? They were pioneer women, right.

Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (z3WCn)

61 This essay gives me all sorts of great ideas!

Posted by: Kathleen Kennedy at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (yaqQy)

62 You know, social conservatives like Rick Santorum were ridiculed at times on this blog and elsewhere. And you know what? We deserved it at times.

But, social conservatism usually corresponds with fiscal conservatism. Social liberalism used fiscal conservatism as a utilitarian mechanism to get what they wanted. When fiscal conservatism no longer indulged them, they openly supported the left in all matters.

However, while the messengers were sometimes ridiculous and conmen in their own right, the consequences of what social conservatives decried have been prophetic. And those predictions that haven't come true yet, sadly seem truly to hinge on the word "yet."

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (a/dOO)

63 @GeorgeTakei · 19h
Before I also get banned from Twitter, please follow me at the other site. See my pinned tweet!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (Vwz3I)

64 Sexual interest in children is not exclusive to the Left. What some would call hillbilly culture

I think there is a world of difference between marrying your 17 year old second cousin and getting an "erotic massage" by an enslaved tween on Epstein island...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (lc5cP)

65 I think shoeonhead is occasionally incredibly trenchant and then mostly a giant political dummy but I would slam her like a tsunami into a Japanese nuclear reactor.

Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (7HyDs)

66 Nine year old girls have that special magic!

Posted by: Mohammad at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (yaqQy)

67 I really thought we'd get a few more years before "they'll be going after children next" went from crazy conspiracy to reality. We didn't even really get a decade, did we?

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (zB/T/)

68 56 It's fascinating how much of "traditional morality" contributes to, or flows from, this simple need for young families to raise multiple children. Of course that makes sense, since those codes and customs developed over centuries of human experience.
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Courtship, marriage, sex and the rearing of children are the oldest traditions in any culture because everything else is downstream. The successful cultures find something that works and as a result those cultures survive.

You should be most cautious when considering changes to those structures, because when you change them, you are truly messing with primal forces.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (t0OGg)

Why would a successful civilization need children or men invested in society through some sort of assured paternity? Sounds like religious crazy talk.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (eYoxG)

69 Anyone here really thing that the alphabet people would leave us alone once we were forced to honor their "marriages"?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (flINI)

70 Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (a/dOO)

Secularism is a vehicle to leftism ultimately it seems.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (+MZFq)

71 There is no disgusting, degenerate behavior that the progs won't condone if doing so nets them power.

There is also no disgusting, degenerate behavior they won't do a 180 on the second it nets them power - even to the extent of simply slaughtering those people. See: Lenin's orders to round up and execute prostitutes.

Unlike the mid/late millenials and the zoomers, the older fruits and nuts have quite a few people among them that are astute enough to understand this, and understand that their turn underneath the bus is coming - and that the progs are pushing pedo shit to deliberately draw fire in the same manner they pushed jihadis, rioting, and rampant criminality for muslims, blacks, and illegals+homeless, respectively. But there aren't enough of them because the younger generations outnumber Gen X and the Oregon Trail cohort.

Posted by: somedood at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (P69fT)

72 37 So... Pride and Prejudice... self-insert plus wish fulfillment?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:12 PM (eYoxG)

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Wish fulfillment is a thing in fiction, and it has been since people were first telling each other stories over the campfire. The stories of the best hunter who could take down any mastodon were like that.

It's fine, and Pride and Prejudice could possibly classify if Austin's creative source for writing her fiction was a desire to live vicariously through her characters. I have no problem with wish fulfillment in fiction. I have a massive problem with really terrible fiction that exists as nothing more than wish fulfillment, and the wish fulfillment is creepy as fuck like in Fifty Shades.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (LvTSG)

73 Sexual interest in children is not exclusive to the Left. What some would call hillbilly culture
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That must be why something like 70% of black girls report being sexually molested by an adult male before they're of age.

Posted by: Press Juan For English - There is no path to 270, not even counting GA and NC cheating at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (kIrFD)

74 Shoeonhead is from Brazil, yes?

Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (z3WCn)

75 Is it about separating children from their children, wrecking families and making them less likely to form families? Sure, I think that's a piece of it.

But I also think part of it has nothing to do with logic. It's a specific form of depravity that is absolute and untoppable. The same people who would sexually abuse kids wouldn't engage in bestiality with equal fervor. Sexually abusing an animal doesn't accomplish something that the other does: the destruction of innocence. I think the destruction of innocence is a big part of it, regardless of downstream consequences on family formation 10-20 years later.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (t0OGg)

76 Part of this is a bizarre notion held by (what else) AWFL women that everyone in the world needs to be "sexually liberated,"

Childless old me is one of the most conservative and traditional (of my family) wrt raising children, I learned to my dismay and horror over the years.
It is my experience that teen girls have been enabled by their own mothers, who belong to the AWFL category, at least since the late 1990s.

I'm not going to provide any examples of the enabling behavior because of the perv factor here.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (dCxaZ)

77 It's the holidays so I won't ruin the fantasies of the people who think Shoe is hot by linking to a picture of her with no wig and no makeup.

Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:18 PM (B2DjU)

78 40 The French are sophisticated, Ace.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:13 PM (t0OGg)

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That one French president's mistress and wife stood together at his funeral! Like, and stuff!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:18 PM (LvTSG)

79 Shoeonhead! Whatever happened to Minksy or Jinksy, or whatever? What about Boxey? They were pioneer women, right.

The JWOW girl tried to get into acting and failed which is surprising considering her, uh, considerable talents. It think she was in a crappy horror movie as one of the victims and that's it.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:18 PM (lc5cP)

80 I blame Sex and the City. A lot of women under the age of 50 were promised a world where they would have incredible sex with wealthy, handsome men, and then they found themselves married to the average schlub and living in the suburbs and they are pissed about it.

That, and they are playing constant status games amongst each other, where the only way to temporarily win is to go harder left than their friends and associates.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:07 PM (wmDcS)

It's a generation older than that. First wave Feminism, baby. Stay at Home moms are shit, Cool girls get jobs, get laid, have abortions and wonder why they feel nothing inside when the cute runs out.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:18 PM (eoQWY)

81 Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (flINI)

I was in highschool(I think) making this very point and got called a crazy conspiracy theorist.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:18 PM (+MZFq)

82 Why would a successful civilization need children or men invested in society through some sort of assured paternity? Sounds like religious crazy talk.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (eYoxG)
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That every successful culture has all of those institutions like marriage, courtship rituals that lead to marriage, reproductive expectations and rights, etc. would be a big indicator...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:18 PM (t0OGg)

83 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 )
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She reminds me of boxxy
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022

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I had to look her up. Yes, indeed; they could be sisters, or close cousins.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:19 PM (J2vNu)

84 Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:18 PM (B2DjU)

SHE WEARS A WIG?!?!! LMFAOOOOOO

I need this link

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 16, 2022 03:19 PM (+MZFq)

85 If you are banning gay marriage you don't have to argue about "tranny rights"

You don't have to ban gay marriage to not argue about "tranny rights".

Posted by: SFGoth at December 16, 2022 03:19 PM (KAi1n)

86 Shoe looks like she could've been a Dr. Seuss character.

A cute one, but a Dr. Seuss character nonetheless.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 16, 2022 03:19 PM (d1p/J)

87
It's a generation older than that. First wave Feminism, baby. Stay at Home moms are shit, Cool girls get jobs, get laid, have abortions and wonder why they feel nothing inside when the cute runs out.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:18 PM (eoQWY)

Isn't that second wave?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:19 PM (eYoxG)

88 [but I would slam her like a tsunami into a Japanese nuclear reactor.

oh oh oh I see. So NOW you can make jokes about Tsunamis.

Posted by: Gilbert Gotfried at December 16, 2022 03:19 PM (lc5cP)

89 63 @GeorgeTakei · 19h
Before I also get banned from Twitter, please follow me at the other site. See my pinned tweet!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (Vwz3I)

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He's not going to get banned being dull-witted leftist repeating dull-witted leftist things, and it's going to crush him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:19 PM (LvTSG)

90 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:11 PM (J2vNu)

Heh I swear we really do have the same taste in women. It's weird.

Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:19 PM (7HyDs)

91 What some would call hillbilly culture

" Clem, if'n yew don't marry her now and they pass that marriage law, yew'll have to wait 7 long years"

That'd make her about 11.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Bride

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 16, 2022 03:20 PM (DteU4)

92 My buddy and I were just talking about how his teenaged cousin didn't think the perverted images Cardi B has on her IG are a big problem. And they come from a very traditional patriarchal Middle Eastern family.

Well, used to be anyway.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2022 03:20 PM (dCxaZ)

93 It’s funny that people associate the Victorian era with sexual prudery, when Victoria herself loved knocking boots.

That was a woman with a very healthy sex drive.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 16, 2022 03:20 PM (8QSC/)

94 80 It's a generation older than that. First wave Feminism, baby. Stay at Home moms are shit, Cool girls get jobs, get laid, have abortions and wonder why they feel nothing inside when the cute runs out.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:18 PM (eoQWY)

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Weren't first wave feminists people like Susan B. Anthony?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:20 PM (LvTSG)

95 You don't have to ban gay marriage to not argue about "tranny rights".

In other news gay rights activists have said claims they will now move on to arguing for "tranny rights" and "sexual access to children" are right wing slurs.

Posted by: News from 2012 at December 16, 2022 03:20 PM (lc5cP)

96 I think shoeonhead is occasionally incredibly trenchant and then mostly a giant political dummy but I would slam her like a tsunami into a Japanese nuclear reactor.
Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM

Per the google machine, she was also rather careless about inappropriate pics landing on the web. The last Chad must have been annoyed.

On the other hand, her pet bunny is adorable.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2022 03:20 PM (Wnv9h)

97 Can someone provide me with the long word version of AWFL and MAP? I have no idea what they are an acronym of.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (/1teD)

98 I understand wanting to distance gay from pedo, but it doesn't help that a lot of the left's gay hero's and thinkers were pedophiles. Harvey Milk springs to mind, along with Foucault. I'm sure I could compile quite a long list given a few minutes.

Posted by: 29Victor at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (BJKQV)

99 As I have admitted, I'm just an old, sometimes-naïve curmudgeon. I must admit that until recently, I had no idea that this pedo garbage was as widespread as it appears to be. How did this come to be? Eh, it's a rhetorical question. I know the answer.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (Xrfse)

100 Sh0e got annoying real fast.

I agree, very short shelf life. Yeah she says some not-crazy stuff, but my standards are higher than that.

That every successful culture has all of those institutions like marriage, courtship rituals that lead to marriage, reproductive expectations and rights, etc. would be a big indicator

The most successful cultures and civilizations in history had tight controls over women and men both, through religion and society. We are innately wicked in different ways, and both need to suppress those tendencies for reasons other than "it makes me happy".

You are not put on this earth to be happy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (0hOvj)

101 It's time to man up and admit that normalizing any and all homosexuality is the foundation of this. Stop with the nudge and a wink, stop mindlessly repeating "not that there's anything wrong with that!", stop letting the degenerates of the left program you to act as their foot soldiers. They're turning your virtues into vices and you don't do a thing about it. It all comes back to opening the door to gay acceptance and it's time to roll it all back.

Posted by: KGB at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (JexLh)

102 >GLAAD
@glaad
Dragphobia is on the Rise: "There is clear and present danger against our community and threats... we really haven't seen it at this level in over a decade, if ever."
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I'll ask the question again. Why then, does the alphabet community insist on 'drag queen story hour' and elementary school field trips to gay clubs if they truly are not interested in debauching children?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (gryET)

103 97 Can someone provide me with the long word version of AWFL and MAP? I have no idea what they are an acronym of.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (/1teD)

Affluent White Female Liberal
Minor-attracted Person (ie pedophile)

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (eYoxG)

104 100 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (0hOvj)

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I was sorry to hear about your brother, Christopher.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

105 They NEED to decriminalize and normalize to keep themselves out of prison. So they push the weirdo trannies out in front and put them in jobs in government to soften up the opposition. It's a Long March. It's all part of the WEF agenda.
Posted by: torabora***

Well, if they come sniffing around my family they will have a much bigger worry than prison. And they will not like it.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2022 03:22 PM (anj39)

106 Been wondering myself, schools, Marxist Seminaries, all seem to be grooming kids to turn into sex objects

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 16, 2022 03:22 PM (xhxe8)

107 But those Baader-Meinhof gang peeps were totes the exception, not the rule.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 16, 2022 03:22 PM (llON8)

108 Keith Olbermann using his dog's Twitter account to rant about Elon Musk after being banned for being a psychotic half wit is totally something a person who doesn't take advice from the screaming spiders in his scalp follicles would do.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 16, 2022 03:23 PM (wb1YC)

109 Per the google machine, she was also rather careless about inappropriate pics landing on the web. The last Chad must have been annoyed.

Before she came up with this persona she apparently was a girl who posted nakey stuff of herself on 4chan. She's been after fame with little effort for a while now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:23 PM (0hOvj)

110 >They're turning your virtues into vices and you don't do a thing about it. It all comes back to opening the door to gay acceptance and it's time to roll it all back.

Posted by: KGB at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (JexLh)

That toothpaste is not easily going back in the tube.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022 03:23 PM (gryET)

111 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2022 03:20 PM (Wnv9h)

Oh dear I will have to make this part of my next research project. You are a great American.

Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:23 PM (7HyDs)

112 When the debate was on gay marriage it seemed every proponent of homo-gamy brought up ancient Greece.

And certainly homosexuality was accepted in some places/times within that rather large time frame but it was almost always in terms of a younger man with an older man - what we call pedophilia now (yeah, yeah technically there is some other term for it) and it was a clear pointer then that none of those people saw a problem with it at the time.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:23 PM (lc5cP)

113 Victoria herself loved knocking boots.

That was a woman with a very healthy sex drive.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

And damn near got pregnant every time she did.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 16, 2022 03:23 PM (KAi1n)

114 It's more than just ripping apart American families. It's really a continuation of the decades-long march to destroy and discredit the Judeo-Christian religion. Prior to Christianity and modern Judaism, sex with children was commonplace and so accepted that they made art depicting it. But where Christian ideals took hold, they saw the horrors of such exploitation, and stamped out child sex.

The left seeks to destroy all this, as it always had. Consider that the same people who scream so loudly in favor of child sex now were the exact same people screaming so loudly against the Catholic church and its pederast scandals. Seems incompatible, right? Wrong. The unifying principle is hatred for and a desire to destroy Christianity and especially Catholics.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 16, 2022 03:23 PM (iFTx/)

115 34 Sexual interest in children is not exclusive to the Left. What some would call hillbilly culture or some charismatic, Christian sects, yeah, interest in young girls.
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That's a throwback to Medieval times. The average age of a bride was 13. The husband was 18. If you live on the east coast check your state laws regarding age of marriage. I think a good bit of that is still in the books.

Oh, if you want more of your own walking the planet marrying young can do that for you.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:24 PM (3FiQa)

116 imagine not seeing the difference between Cuties and a beauty pageant.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 16, 2022 03:24 PM (MLrvz)

117 The culture war is really a war against perpetuation of Western Civilization, and the species.

Gay and Trans don't have kids. They can't. So the destruction of marriage, which is a Social Construct created to RAISE CHILDREN, will end with... less children. The West's rate of having children is already lower than needed to keep our population stable... and that was BEFORE the Gay and Trans crap.

Add in unlimited migration from the NON Western World to the EU and US? And we see the Culture and PEOPLE (Yeah, us evil White Folks) being replaced.

Why this is the seeming goal? I do not fathom... as it is White Liberals who are doing this... but it is the logical outcome of their cultural assault.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 16, 2022 03:24 PM (oHd/0)

118 Shoe is very pretty but, uh, isn't she lacking in assets to be an internet nood model?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:24 PM (lc5cP)

119 I was sorry to hear about your brother, Christopher.

Thank you. Memorial service tomorrow then I have to get to work on his finances etc, once we get the death certificates. Not a very fun prospect, but its care and support from folks like you that help make it possible to overcome.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:24 PM (0hOvj)

120 There are things for which the death penalty should be automatic.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 16, 2022 03:24 PM (bIbBE)

121 This idiocy is everywhere. For example, take the psoriasis Skyrizi commercial that shows what is likely a 10 or 11 year old dancer caked up in makeup and walking seductively throughout the commercial.

I find it disturbing, but it's treated as mainstream.

Posted by: Orson at December 16, 2022 03:24 PM (lzq/P)

122 >Why would a successful civilization need children or men invested in society through some sort of assured paternity? Sounds like religious crazy talk.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:16 PM (eYoxG)

Chesterton's Fence? Bah!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (0D0Oa)

123 28 Lol Shoe's bald ass isn't ever going to land a "Chad" again she's more likely to end up with Vaush

vash, the stampede?

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (7JdFr)

124 That was a woman with a very healthy sex drive.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 16, 2022 03:20 PM (8QSC/)

It was in the context of a happy marriage though.

Viictorian prudery was a reaction to the salacious and debauched Regency and Georgian eras, when everyone who was anyone contracted the syphilis.
Finally the aristos were sick and tired of turning silver from being dosed with mercury, so they were all like:
"Maybe we should pump the brakes a little, ok?"

And then women's costume evolved into those atrocious hoop skirts that were supposed to fool the world into thinking we didn't have a pelvis.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (dCxaZ)

125 "Courtship, marriage, sex and the rearing of children are the oldest traditions in any culture because everything else is downstream. The successful cultures find something that works and as a result those cultures survive.

You should be most cautious when considering changes to those structures, because when you change them, you are truly messing with primal forces.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (t0OGg)"

And the AWFLs and childless 30-somethings don't give a shit about any of this, they just want to travel and party and order takeout.

Posted by: somedood at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (P69fT)

126 Akshulllllkyyy..

Age of consent laws are a tool of government oppression. If the body is capable of reproduction then obviously sexual activity is completely normal. And it's therfore totally normal to be attracted to 12 year olds. It's just Christianists using the government to oppress people with their beliefs that would have your think otherwise.

Posted by: Big L Libertarians at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (fcG4+)

127 yes Mr Hayward is correct

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (w0NJk)

128 Why do the children have to have a drag queen's **** wagged in their faces just because you can't come, Bethany? How does x fix y?

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the commies are like: it's either turn over the children or we starve the whole village.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (MLrvz)

129 she's more likely to end up with Vaush

Do you mean the game theory guy? I think he became seriously religious recently and said he's given all that stuff up.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (lc5cP)

130 Yeah she has a condition where she tears out her hair and eats it so she always wears wigs in her videos.

Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (B2DjU)

131 >The unifying principle is hatred for and a desire to destroy Christianity and especially Catholics.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 16, 2022 03:23 PM (iFTx/)

The caller in the house, er Vatican!

They've virtually destroyed my church. I have nothing but contempt for the clergy.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022 03:26 PM (gryET)

132 Shoe on Head is trying to draw a line that doesn't exist.

There is naturally procreative sex and their is
deviancy. That's it. So yes, all that belongs together.

If there is a fetish that involves sticking your penis in bread dough, then the alphabet group should also include a D for doughie or dough-f*cker or whatever they name it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 16, 2022 03:26 PM (0FpGW)

133 "118 Shoe is very pretty but, uh, isn't she lacking in assets to be an internet nood model?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:24 PM (lc5cP)"

There is abundant evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: somedood at December 16, 2022 03:26 PM (P69fT)

134 I’m very sorry for your loss, Christopher.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 16, 2022 03:26 PM (8QSC/)

135 It's a generation older than that. First wave Feminism, baby. Stay at Home moms are shit, Cool girls get jobs, get laid, have abortions and wonder why they feel nothing inside when the cute runs out.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022
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Isn't that second wave?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022

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Not that I've made a study of it, but I thought first wave was simply "Give Us the Vote!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:26 PM (J2vNu)

136 When the debate was on gay marriage it seemed every proponent of homo-gamy brought up ancient Greece.

Which was condemned by the philosophers and moral teachers of the time, complaining about how it was not just evil but destroying their culture.

Which it did.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:26 PM (0hOvj)

137 Isn't that second wave?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:19 PM (eYoxG)

Feminism was invented in the 1960s. What lies they tell to give themselves a fake pedigree don't interest me.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:27 PM (eoQWY)

138 Shoe is very pretty but, uh, isn't she lacking in assets to be an internet nood model?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:24 PM (lc5cP)"
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There is abundant evidence to the contrary.
Posted by: somedood at December 16, 2022

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Nice hind paws too, we hope?

Posted by: Heel & Arch Fanciers, Inc. at December 16, 2022 03:27 PM (J2vNu)

139 >I think the destruction of innocence is a big part of it, regardless of downstream consequences on family formation 10-20 years later.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:17 PM (t0OGg)

In short, Stan lurves the corruption of innocence, and he's runnin' wild in Murica right now.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 16, 2022 03:27 PM (0D0Oa)

140 I am anything but a ladies man, but brunettes in their 40s who smoke have adored me since I was about 17. I don't know what that is.

Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:28 PM (7HyDs)

141 No Vaush is the fat commie pro pedo who is somehow a popular streamer. At least we know why Shoe is popular, Vaush is a mystery.

Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:28 PM (B2DjU)

142 Shoeonhead is basically an OnlyFans account catering to political dorks. Nothing she says is all that interesting or insightful. She's just winsome while doing it. That's it. Guys will listen to you, or at least pretend to listen to you, if you are adorable. She's playing life on easy mode.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 16, 2022 03:28 PM (ppBhU)

143 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 16, 2022 03:26 PM (0FpGW)

That's what the "+" is for.

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2022 03:28 PM (dCxaZ)

144 I want to stress a point from the tweet thread above.

People know more as they get older. They learn and understand more - that is indisputable. One thing they learn and understand is that a lot of the "old ways" are correct. The left always laments the "old people" who vote Republican, and a lot of that is due to their old time values, but a lot of it is due to them having learned the folly of Leftism.

The Left does not want an informed and understanding populace. They want kids to vote at 18, or 16. They want kids to make decisions without their parents knowledge.

If the vote was left to people with knowledge and understanding learned through a long life, most of the things conservatives want would be a shoe-in. The Left understands this and they understand that destroying the family is necessary to prevent that knowledge from being passed down.

The family is the best education tool there is, and the Left needs to destroy it to create their "new wold" utopia.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 16, 2022 03:28 PM (aQVbS)

145 Dragphobia is on the Rise: "There is clear and present danger against our community and threats... we really haven't seen it at this level in over a decade, if ever."
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I'll ask the question again. Why then, does the alphabet community insist on 'drag queen story hour' and elementary school field trips to gay clubs if they truly are not interested in debauching children?
Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022 03:21 PM (gryET)

Phobia is an IRRATIONAL Fear. Fear of them corrupting our children is not irrational based on what they say, AND their behavior.

Its like the stupid term Islamophobia... I've read their book, I KNOW what it says... and if you follow the book, as you are supposed to, you have declared YOUSELF my enemy. Nothing irrational about it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 16, 2022 03:29 PM (oHd/0)

146 Isn't that second wave?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022
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Feminism was invented in the 1960s. What lies they tell to give themselves a fake pedigree don't interest me.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022

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I think the early suffragettes may have used the term "feminist" now and then. What we think of as that today, the toxic brew of man-hating and insanity, didn't emerge until the late '60s.

Posted by: Heel & Arch Fanciers, Inc. at December 16, 2022 03:29 PM (J2vNu)

147 I am anything but a ladies man, but brunettes in their 40s who smoke have adored me since I was about 17. I don't know what that is.
Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:28 PM

*crosses the streams*

Coo coo kachoo, Mrs. Stiffler.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2022 03:29 PM (Wnv9h)

148 Not that I've made a study of it, but I thought first wave was simply "Give Us the Vote!"

and "ban alcohol!"

Posted by: brak at December 16, 2022 03:30 PM (lO5WT)

149 That's a throwback to Medieval times. The average age of a bride was 13. The husband was 18. If you live on the east coast check your state laws regarding age of marriage. I think a good bit of that is still in the books.

Marriage ages throughout the medieval era varied, but were closer to twenty for women and mid to late twenties for men. Marrying at 13 didn't provide benefits, since a girl would be too young to have started menstruation, and because the cost on both families to provide resources to the new couple was high.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:30 PM (wmDcS)

150 130. Sounds like someone I would be confident taking advice from

Posted by: Jen the original at December 16, 2022 03:30 PM (/1teD)

151 When the left says it's not about having sex with children it's about having sex with children. When the left says it's not about taking your guns it's about taking your guns. When the left says they don't want to try your right to free speech, they want to take your right to free speech. When the left says.....

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2022 03:30 PM (11zNb)

152 Brandon says all the things he hates are connected

what is connected are the gays and everything thing that is fucked up

including Ukraine

the gays hate Putin cuz he wont let them adopt young chickens
and hate him cuz he shut down their pride parades

Posted by: REDACTED at December 16, 2022 03:30 PM (us2H3)

153 Not that I've made a study of it, but I thought first wave was simply "Give Us the Vote!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:26 PM (J2vNu)

It was more, NO MORE DRINKING, and give us the vote.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 16, 2022 03:31 PM (oHd/0)

154 141 No Vaush is the fat commie pro pedo who is somehow a popular streamer. At least we know why Shoe is popular, Vaush is a mystery.
Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:28 PM (B2DjU)

Well the left has a lot of fat commie pro pedos doesn't it? Seems like there's an audience right there.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:31 PM (eYoxG)

155 124 Yes, that’s a good point, Kallisto. The Hanoverians who preceded Victoria were all pretty much Bill-Clinton level degenerates.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 16, 2022 03:31 PM (8QSC/)

156 Another factor not mentioned is that if you indoctrinate people when they are very young, that ideology sticks. Stalin and others understood this well.

By making the kid responsible for bad decisions when young, their entire self image is defined. Changing their views will be devastating to them. So not only are the young easier to influence, once they are influenced it has a stronger hold on who they are for the rest of their lives. Commies, cults, and pervs all go after the young.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 16, 2022 03:32 PM (aQVbS)

157 I think most of the drive for lusting after children has nothing to do with sexuality as much as a desire for innocence and helplessness, obedience, and purity being debauched.

Look if you're an elite, you've banged supermodels by the cartfull and its gotten dull, you start looking for something else. This culture is oversexed, then told that we need to free ourselves from repression and have EVEN MORE SEX. After a while it starts to become mundane and you get jaded, which means you should dial it back and focus on your life and family more than your next orgasm, but that's not what the establishment is shoving at us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:32 PM (0hOvj)

158 If our children are not sacred, then nothing is.

Fight & reject accordingly ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 16, 2022 03:32 PM (TsVUb)

159 I told myself just this morning that demons are running wild now. They're overtaking every nook and cranny of life, perverting every sacred thing we hold dear, including our children. It's shocking, even to a jaded person like myself. Their like-minded water carriers are far and wide, pushing and peddling this depravity. I expect fire to engulf this globe shortly, since the water thing was already used.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (sVtYq)

160 We once did a national survey on family values. Eighty-seven percent named the top three values as: respect, responsibly and caring.

That was in the 1990s.

Posted by: Regular joe at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (nnp+f)

161 my German grandpa indoctrinated me

you work, you eat

Posted by: REDACTED at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (us2H3)

162 I used to think pizzagate was a wild and crazy conspiracy theory. Now I’m thinking maybe it was reality…. Pedos everywhere you look amongst our “betters”

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (xT8gx)

163 That's a throwback to Medieval times. The average age of a bride was 13. The husband was 18. If you live on the east coast check your state laws regarding age of marriage. I think a good bit of that is still in the books.

Marriage ages throughout the medieval era varied, but were closer to twenty for women and mid to late twenties for men. Marrying at 13 didn't provide benefits, since a girl would be too young to have started menstruation, and because the cost on both families to provide resources to the new couple was high.

Posted by: Colorado Alex

And even if they did marry early, it was because they were dead by forty.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (9uCBG)

164 This shit's been going on a long time. See e.g. the Kentler Experiment in Germany starting in the 1970s

Posted by: Millstones. Necks. Ocean. Some assembly required at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (HwoXV)

165 Another factor not mentioned is that if you indoctrinate people when they are very young, that ideology sticks.

I wish that were true as people think but its not. You can teach your child to be a Christian conservative wise person and then when they get to around 18 they still will tend to go nuts and embrace Mao at least for a while.

The truth is, Satan's ideology is very seductive and appeals to the sin nature inside of us. It is a constant battle to NOT go that direction, at any age.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (0hOvj)

166 I taught my boys before they went to kindergarten, than ANYONE who told them to keep a secret from their parents was an evil person and they needed to tell my immediately.

The oldest came to me in second grade and told me his teacher asked him to keep a secret from me. The teacher was no longer in the classroom soon after. Grooming starts with an "innocent little secret."

No adult has the right to ask my child to keep anything from me.

Posted by: nurse ratched, I wanna cookie, dammit! at December 16, 2022 03:34 PM (7jhbw)

167 It's more than just ripping apart American families. It's really a continuation of the decades-long march to destroy and discredit the Judeo-Christian religion. Prior to Christianity and modern Judaism, sex with children was commonplace and so accepted that they made art depicting it. But where Christian ideals took hold, they saw the horrors of such exploitation, and stamped out child sex.
The left seeks to destroy all this, as it always had. Consider that the same people who scream so loudly in favor of child sex now were the exact same people screaming so loudly against the Catholic church and its pederast scandals. Seems incompatible, right? Wrong. The unifying principle is hatred for and a desire to destroy Christianity and especially Catholics.
Posted by: Elric Blade

In the Old World, Judaism existed only in a few narrow and small places. It was hard to cultivate a religion that was mono-theistic. But it was this cultivated garden that prepared the way for the coming of Jesus Christ, and the beginning of Christianity, which is a Universalist religious faith.
(see next comment to continue)

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at December 16, 2022 03:34 PM (tjZg/)

168 Not that I've made a study of it, but I thought first wave was simply "Give Us the Vote!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022
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It was more, NO MORE DRINKING, and give us the vote.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 16, 2022

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Ah -- the Carrie Nation approach to politics.

Posted by: Heel & Arch Fanciers, Inc. at December 16, 2022 03:34 PM (J2vNu)

169 The pedophile excusers trying to bring up child beauty pagents as some kind of sick burn against those protesting the kiddie drag shows don't seem to grasp that WE WOULD BE OK WITH BOTH BEING BANNED.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at December 16, 2022 03:34 PM (setIA)

170 Marriage ages throughout the medieval era varied, but were closer to twenty for women and mid to late twenties for men. Marrying at 13 didn't provide benefits, since a girl would be too young to have started menstruation, and because the cost on both families to provide resources to the new couple was high.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:30 PM (wmDcS)
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Youth marriage was usually political. The peasantry and most of the merchant class married later. Marriages were a means of consolidating power or alliances, and the costs of supporting youth marriage were worth it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:35 PM (t0OGg)

171 I don't see the shoe. And I drink scotch because I went to that noted Ivy, North Dakota State University. Also bourbon. Also beer. Also gin! No vodka, though.

Posted by: free tibet at December 16, 2022 03:35 PM (iNp3L)

172 And even if they did marry early, it was because they were dead by forty.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (9uCBG)

The low life expectancies were dominated by infant mortality. If you lived through the first years and reached say, 10, you could live to 50-60 or so often enough.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:35 PM (eoQWY)

173 I was reading about Weimar Germany and all this stuff happened there as well.

The guy that coined the term transsexual and did the early surgeries was active there for example. The left calls him a pioneer but he killed one of his first patients.

After looping off the guys junk he went on to implant female parts. In 2022 we can't do that. In 1930 there is no way he could have thought that would work. And of course it didn't. But...PIONEER! FIRST! SEXUAL LIBERATION!

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:36 PM (lc5cP)

174 the really infamous examples of marrying young were almost always some political alliance, not the general public. Some prince marrying little 12 year old princess, not Joe the Miller marrying the Baker's daughter. The average age, again, for medieval people was low because of so many stillborn and very young child deaths due to bad medical care, nutrition, and heating. People still live to around 60-80 like now, its just the child deaths pulled the average down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:36 PM (0hOvj)

175 And even if they did marry early, it was because they were dead by forty.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (9uCBG)

If you lived to adulthood, you were likely to live into your mid to late sixties at least.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:36 PM (wmDcS)

176 Feminism was invented in the 1960s. What lies they tell to give themselves a fake pedigree don't interest me.
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It was invented to keep wages low and increase sales.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:36 PM (3FiQa)

177 I used to think pizzagate was a wild and crazy conspiracy theory. Now I’m thinking maybe it was reality…. Pedos everywhere you look amongst our “betters”

Pizzagate came out shortly before the Epstein stuff. And you'll note not a single client went to jail for the Epstein stuff. Apparently Ghislane was trafficking girls to...no one.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:37 PM (lc5cP)

178 I taught my boys before they went to kindergarten, than ANYONE who told them to keep a secret from their parents was an evil person and they needed to tell my immediately.

The oldest came to me in second grade and told me his teacher asked him to keep a secret from me. The teacher was no longer in the classroom soon after. Grooming starts with an "innocent little secret."

No adult has the right to ask my child to keep anything from me.
Posted by: nurse ratched, I wanna cookie, dammit! at December 16, 2022 03:34 PM (7jhbw)
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Teaching kids to be wary of anyone who wanted to keep secrets from parents used to be part of the standard curriculum in elementary school. We were taught from an early age to watch out for ped0s by looking for the signs that a stranger, a trusted family friend, or even a teacher might be a ped0. Now it's the teachers who ARE the ped0s. Evil fucks.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 16, 2022 03:37 PM (BpYfr)

179 174 the really infamous examples of marrying young were almost always some political alliance, not the general public. Some prince marrying little 12 year old princess, not Joe the Miller marrying the Baker's daughter. The average age, again, for medieval people was low because of so many stillborn and very young child deaths due to bad medical care, nutrition, and heating. People still live to around 60-80 like now, its just the child deaths pulled the average down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:36 PM (0hOvj)

Aristocrats married for property and power (hence the inbreeding).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:37 PM (eYoxG)

180 If you lived to adulthood, you were likely to live into your mid to late sixties at least
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Four score and seven. Infant mortality was the problem back then.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:37 PM (3FiQa)

181 don't seem to grasp that WE WOULD BE OK WITH BOTH BEING BANNED.

Yeah, its like thinking telling us "if you won't let us have abortions we'll stop acting like raging sluts!"

OK.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:38 PM (0hOvj)

182 It was invented to keep wages low and increase sales.
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:36 PM (3FiQa)

And provide whores to the business class without requiring them to raise extra children.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:38 PM (eoQWY)

183 #97 MAP
M inor att racted person

AWFL or Affluent White Female Liberal

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 16, 2022 03:38 PM (Vwz3I)

184 The low life expectancies were dominated by infant mortality. If you lived through the first years and reached say, 10, you could live to 50-60 or so often enough.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022

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Yes; we heard of many a royal minister or councilor (presuming he didn't get his head lopped off for treason) living to be in his 70s. Elizabeth's Cecil lived to be almost 78.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:38 PM (J2vNu)

185 Modern feminism being garbage doesn't mean you should shit on actual feminists from early centuries who really were treated like shit and fought for something worth fighting for

Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:39 PM (B2DjU)

186 It was invented to keep wages low and increase sales.
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:36 PM (3FiQa)

And to broaden the tax base, thus increasing revenue to the Leviathan. As well as to destroy the family and male-female relations.

Posted by: Feminism is a cancer at December 16, 2022 03:39 PM (HwoXV)

187 > Not that I've made a study of it, but I thought first wave was simply "Give Us the Vote!"

First wave feminists are a mixed bag. Yes, they fought for the vote, but they ALSO refused any of the civic duty stuff that went along with it. They didn't want to do bucket brigade or be subject to the draft.

They also made up a lot of crap about how awful men were.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 16, 2022 03:39 PM (eyxn4)

188 Once you force society to submit to allowing its children to be corrupted and attacked in this fashion, said society will allow *anything*.

Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:39 PM (7HyDs)

189 Sorry, three score and ten.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:39 PM (3FiQa)

190 The Drag Queens are probably very sweet to children, we are just playing dress up like you kids do. It's fun to wear women's clothes suckkng them into the lifestyle

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 16, 2022 03:39 PM (xhxe8)

191 Elsewhere in the world, were a variety of pantheistic religions, and many of them were the Old Religion, Lucifarianism, or Satanism. The worship of the devil.
And that is, to a large degree, what these people are trying to summon.
How many times recently have you heard or said yourself...everything is backwards and upside down?
Last year, my wife read "Windswept House" by Malachi Martin. While it was "fiction", Martin himself said it was about 90% factual. It talks about the existence of Satanism inside the Catholic Church, which Martin knew was real.
In the real world, Malachi Martin was a Catholic Priest, and was also an Exorsist, ordained as such. He died an unusual and gruesome death. Hmmm.....

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at December 16, 2022 03:39 PM (tjZg/)

192 the really infamous examples of marrying young were almost always some political alliance, not the general public. Some prince marrying little 12 year old princess,

And, IIRC, the marriage itself might involve a long, drawn out betrothal until she was older. "Age of consent" originally meant, "old enough to give consent to marriage" because the person understood the obligations of those vows, not age of consent to sex.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:39 PM (wmDcS)

193 The low life expectancies were dominated by infant mortality. If you lived through the first years and reached say, 10, you could live to 50-60 or so often enough.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:35 PM (eoQWY)
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Yup. Walk through a very old cemetery and you'll usually see this. Lots of graves for people under 10 and over 50, with much older ages being fairly common. Death of young adults was pretty rare. If you made it to 10, you would probably make it to 50. The average peasant didn't cash in by 35.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:40 PM (t0OGg)

194 I used to think pizzagate was a wild and crazy conspiracy theory. Now I’m thinking maybe it was reality…. Pedos everywhere you look amongst our “betters”

Pizzagate came out shortly before the Epstein stuff. And you'll note not a single client went to jail for the Epstein stuff. Apparently Ghislane was trafficking girls to...no one.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 03:37 PM (lc5cP)

The odd details make me think it was a real thing, as does the universal ridicule without actual debunking.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:40 PM (eoQWY)

195 Evan Sayet knew this years ago:

"The Modern Liberal will invariably side with evil over good, wrong over right, and the behaviors that lead to failure over those that lead to success....

Given the choice between promoting teenage abstinence and teenage promiscuity--and believe me, I know this from my hometown of Hollywood -- they will use their movies, their TV shows, their songs, even the schools to promote teenage promiscuity as if it's cool.... NARAL... will hold a fund-raiser called "F Abstinence." (And it's not just "F." It's the entire word, because promoting vulgarity is part of their agenda.) ....

It's a utopian vision, and all that's required to usher in this utopia is the rejection of all fact, reason, evidence, logic, truth, morality, and decency -- all the tools that you and I use in our attempts to be better people, to make the world more right by trying to be right, by siding with right, by recognizing what is right and moving toward it."

Posted by: Hands at December 16, 2022 03:40 PM (786Ro)

196 175 Mid to late sixties?

Pikers.

— Enrico Dandolo, Doge of Venice

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 16, 2022 03:40 PM (8QSC/)

197 First wave feminists are a mixed bag. Yes, they fought for the vote, but they ALSO refused any of the civic duty stuff that went along with it. They didn't want to do bucket brigade or be subject to the draft.
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Worse was they outlawed the production and distribution of Bourbon. Bitches.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:40 PM (3FiQa)

198 CRT

You make a good point. I think kids want to rebel and make their own decisions, and that makes it easy for what you describe.

But the other side of that is that of a cult can get them to rebel, and make their own decision to go over to the wrong side, then that will stick. I think a lot of the Old New Left first got indoctrinated on the campuses by going to sit ins and protests in the 60s. The ritual of going on your own and finding a group who were also rebelling is part of what makes it stick.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 16, 2022 03:41 PM (aQVbS)

199 193 Yup. Walk through a very old cemetery and you'll usually see this. Lots of graves for people under 10 and over 50, with much older ages being fairly common. Death of young adults was pretty rare. If you made it to 10, you would probably make it to 50. The average peasant didn't cash in by 35.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:40 PM (t0OGg)

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Well, except for the town mercury tester. That position had surprisingly high turnover.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

200 Isn't that second wave?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022

No, Love is ... oh, I thought you said Seventh Wave. Please disregard.

Posted by: Sting at December 16, 2022 03:41 PM (xttsV)

201 > Four score and seven. Infant mortality was the problem back then.

Not just infants. Kids up to tween years died like flies whenever illnesses rolled through.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 16, 2022 03:41 PM (eyxn4)

202 The modern sexualization of children comes from Wilhelm Reich of the Frankfurt School. In the 30s Americans had the good sense to burn his books, but now he’s taught in universities.

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at December 16, 2022 03:41 PM (viKyA)

203 I think there are three kinds of people who want to molest children and teens:

1) People who think they are pretty and want to sex up everything they are attracted to.
2) People who as I said above are suffering from hedonist's paradox and just want new kicks.
3) People who are genuinely sick in the head and lust after children, insanity and sickness of the mind.

It seems to me that 1 and 2 can be controlled and moved away from that with social pressure, legal sanction, and generally a society that does not celebrate sexualizing children. 3 can be kept from acting on their unnatural and evil inclinations with medication, mental care, confinement, and a new worldview that understands they are responsible to a higher authority and must control their lusts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:42 PM (0hOvj)

204 First wave feminists are a mixed bag. Yes, they fought for the vote, but they ALSO refused any of the civic duty stuff that went along with it. They didn't want to do bucket brigade or be subject to the draft. ...
Posted by: bonhomme at December 16, 2022 03:39 PM (eyxn4)
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In fairness to the hardcore suffragettes, a lot of them *were* willing to do the civic duty stuff. Most women were not, which is why female suffrage was not a particularly popular notion when they were out doing their thing. Not because men wanted to block it, but because women didn't want it. They assumed that if they got the vote, they'd be drafted (and drafts were much more common then, not just military but for bucket brigades like you mentioned, public works, etc.). Not worth it.

One of the greatest errors we made, in my opinion, was extending the vote to women without also extending the draft.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022 03:42 PM (t0OGg)

205 GLAAD
@glaad
Dragphobia is on the Rise: "There is clear and present danger against our community and threats... we really haven't seen it at this level in over a decade, if ever."

Phobia implies fear. As in fear of spiders - arachnaphobia. I (we) don't fear drag queens. DQs are welcome to live their life any way they see fit - right up to the point where they want to exposure children to their deviancy. Now they are dancing with pediphilia of which I'm certain there is but one cure. That cure starts with a number 4 IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 16, 2022 03:42 PM (N39Ws)

206 Aristocrats married for property and power (hence the inbreeding).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 03:37 PM (eYoxG)
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I really could have used a few more grandparents.

Posted by: Carlos II at December 16, 2022 03:42 PM (AuTCi)

207 They also made up a lot of crap about how awful men were.
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Arson and a few acid-throwings too, at least in the UK.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 16, 2022 03:42 PM (Vwz3I)

208 The odd details make me think it was a real thing, as does the universal ridicule without actual debunking.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:40 PM (eoQWY)

Any good resources on this? I'm interested in the story but not the mainstream spin.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 16, 2022 03:42 PM (d1p/J)

209 If child pageants were part of school curricula we would be protesting that too, fuckwads.

Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:43 PM (7HyDs)

210 Evan Sayet knew this years ago:

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I wish Evan Sayet had a higher visibility. He's great to listen to, and is always 100% spot on explaining the liberal/leftist mind.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 16, 2022 03:43 PM (sVtYq)

211 189 Four score and seven, Puddinhead. Four score and seven.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 16, 2022 03:43 PM (8QSC/)

212 209 If child pageants were part of school curricula we would be protesting that too, fuckwads.
Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:43 PM (7HyDs)

And this is why adults - parents and non parents alike need to watch what is going on in our school systems.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 16, 2022 03:43 PM (N39Ws)

213 One fun thing to note: Kyle Rittenhouse randomly sampled three antifa dicks and two of them turned out to be pedos.

66% are pedophiles? I believe it.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (d1p/J)

214 The low life expectancies were dominated by infant mortality. If you lived through the first years and reached say, 10, you could live to 50-60 or so often enough.
Posted by: Oldcat

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Most people don't realize just how close those days of yore and those stats really are. I'm in my late 50s. My grandfather had two sisters and four brothers.

And four more siblings who died as babies.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (wb1YC)

215 Faggotry. Faggotry as far as the eye can see.

Posted by: Buzz LightintheLoafers Year at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (DpCLO)

216 You make a good point. I think kids want to rebel and make their own decisions, and that makes it easy for what you describe.

But the other side of that is that of a cult can get them to rebel, and make their own decision to go over to the wrong side, then that will stick. I think a lot of the Old New Left first got indoctrinated on the campuses by going to sit ins and protests in the 60s. The ritual of going on your own and finding a group who were also rebelling is part of what makes it stick.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 16, 2022 03:41 PM (aQVbS)

This rebel stuff is just first world problems. 200 years ago your son didn't have to 'find himself' - he had to do his chores, go to schools and work the farm next to his dad.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (eoQWY)

217 . . . One of the greatest errors we made, in my opinion, was extending the vote to women ~~without also extending the draft.~~
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022

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I took the liberty . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (J2vNu)

218 The silver lining to all of this is the rapidly increasing number of people attending church for the first time because everything points to the end of the world coming soon.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (9qSw/)

219 The dynamic of p3do is a mirror of the leftist's preferred mode of interaction with their supposed interiors and would-be subjects: "Don't question me. Just do what you're told and keep your mouth shut."

Inside every progressive is a p3do screaming to get out.

Posted by: Toad-O at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (cct0t)

220 >3 can be kept from acting on their unnatural and evil inclinations with medication, mental care, confinement, and a new worldview that understands they are responsible to a higher authority and must control their lusts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:42 PM (0hOvj)

You misspelled hanged by the neck until dead.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (gryET)

221 BuT whAT abOuT ChiLD BeaUtY PageAnTS? What about them? They're fucking disgusting, too. I don't give a fuck who's doing it; sexualizing children is wrong.

That being said, there's a line that has to be drawn. Educating children about sex is important. Educating children about LGTBQ stuff is also important, because some children are LGTBQ and all children will be exposed to it eventually.

The issue is the difference between the "nuts and bolts" knowledge of "this thing exists, this is what it's about, this is what you need to know about it" and putting the kids in front of a drag queen strip tease.

Those are very different things, and both sides of this debate are taking steps to make them look like the same thing, while hanging their hat on the "nuts and bolts" aspect.

Libs say "kids need to be taught about sex!" and they're right, but they think "teaching about sex" means "drag queen strip tease". And those libs are wrong.

Conservatives say "keep our kids away from overt sexualization" and they are right, but many of them consider any sex ed at all to be wrong. And those Conservatives are also wrong.

The middle ground, folks. The middle ground.

Posted by: Goober at December 16, 2022 03:45 PM (Hgvgt)

222 Most previous waves of feminism had good points to make. Why should women not be able to vote? Why should women not be able to be in various fields like medicine and business? Why should women have to put up with being harassed and groped in the workplace?

But this latest wave? They won all the other stuff before because it was reasonable, and now they're just trying to cling to money, position, and relevance by coming up with just flat insane crap. They have nothing to offer but a cautionary tale.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:45 PM (0hOvj)

223 One fun thing to note: Kyle Rittenhouse randomly sampled three antifa dicks and two of them turned out to be pedos.

66% are pedophiles? I believe it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 16, 2022

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Out of a self-selected group of leftoids and nuts, sure.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:45 PM (J2vNu)

224 > In fairness to the hardcore suffragettes, a lot of them *were* willing to do the civic duty stuff. Most women were not, which is why female suffrage was not a particularly popular notion when they were out doing their thing. Not because men wanted to block it, but because women didn't want it.

Good point.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 16, 2022 03:45 PM (eyxn4)

225 normalphobia is what drives the left

"look at me when I actually accompish something" scares the shit out of the left

Posted by: REDACTED at December 16, 2022 03:45 PM (us2H3)

226 >>> 159 I told myself just this morning that demons are running wild now. They're overtaking every nook and cranny of life, perverting every sacred thing we hold dear, including our children. It's shocking, even to a jaded person like myself. Their like-minded water carriers are far and wide, pushing and peddling this depravity. I expect fire to engulf this globe shortly, since the water thing was already used.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (sVtYq)

Send Us Thine Asteroid, O Lord

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 16, 2022 03:45 PM (llON8)

227 223 One fun thing to note: Kyle Rittenhouse randomly sampled three antifa dicks and two of them turned out to be pedos.

66% are pedophiles? I believe it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 16, 2022

***
Out of a self-selected group of leftoids and nuts, sure.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:45 PM (J2vNu)

And his 3 shots are 100x as effective as Dr. Fauci's

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 16, 2022 03:46 PM (N39Ws)

228 211 189 Four score and seven, Puddinhead. Four score and seven.
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Its three score and ten. I fucked up.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:46 PM (3FiQa)

229 @glaad
Dragphobia is on the Rise: "There is clear and present danger against our community and threats... we really haven't seen it at this level in over a decade, if ever."

--

The left has Moralphobia. There is clear and present danger against moral communities and threats we haven't seen at this level in America, ever.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 16, 2022 03:46 PM (sVtYq)

230 . . . and a new worldview that understands they are responsible to a higher authority and must control their lusts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022
*
You misspelled hanged by the neck until dead.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022

***
Well, that rope and platform arrangement will introduce them to the new worldview. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:46 PM (J2vNu)

231 39 dressing up young girls inappropriately sexily, and inappropriately maturely for their age -

There's a creepy tv ad for eczema pills using this technique.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 16, 2022 03:13 PM (DteU4)
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Yeah, I know the one you're referring to. Very obviously inappropriate, and I wonder what marketing firm was behind that.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 16, 2022 03:47 PM (F5ekr)

232 And even if they did marry early, it was because they were dead by forty.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2022 03:33 PM (9uCBG)

If you lived to adulthood, you were likely to live into your mid to late sixties at least.
Posted by: Colorado Alex

Eleanor of Aqutaine was 81 when she died in 1204.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 16, 2022 03:47 PM (Wy1BU)

233 One fun thing to note: Kyle Rittenhouse randomly sampled three antifa dicks and two of them turned out to be pedos.

66% are pedophiles? I believe it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (d1p/J)

Revolutionary movements always seek to disrupt norms regarding sex, and they always attract the kind of people whose beliefs and actions make them ill-suited for normal society.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:47 PM (wmDcS)

234 The real problem is all the sexy children

Posted by: Pedo Joe at December 16, 2022 03:47 PM (YSsNc)

235 The middle ground, folks. The middle ground.

So, sex before 8 or else it's too late?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 16, 2022 03:47 PM (DteU4)

236 I'm sure it's been pointed out but in the cases of normalizing pedos via drag queens, sexualizing school curriculum and child beauty pageants, women are front and center.

Women. The historical mamma bear protectors of children.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:48 PM (mE7cY)

237 Libs say "kids need to be taught about sex!" and they're right, but they think "teaching about sex" means "drag queen strip tease". And those libs are wrong.

What your children learn should be up to you as a parent. Further it should be catered to the age and level of comprehension a child can attain.

Grade Schoolers don't need to be educated about sex beyond "this is a boy and this is a girl." Period. Get a little older and you can learn the basic mechanics and physical distinctions beyond the obvious. You can learn that some people exist who are messed up and are different from the norm, but that's it.

Anything beyond that is not just advocacy but pushing an agenda beyond education. There is no middle ground to right and wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:48 PM (0hOvj)

238 > Eleanor of Aqutaine

Did she have really dry, clear skin?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 16, 2022 03:48 PM (eyxn4)

239 Most people don't realize just how close those days of yore and those stats really are. I'm in my late 50s. My grandfather had two sisters and four brothers.

And four more siblings who died as babies.
Posted by: Azathoth at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (wb1YC)

James Longstreet, the Confederate General, was defending Richmond when a fever hit Richmond and three of his five kids died before he could ride there to see them. Gen Sherman had a son die during the war to illness. So did Lincoln, and Jeff Davis had a son die in a fall. Jeff Davis also eloped with his first wife, and she died on the honeymoon. He was affected his whole life with pain and partial blindness from the same affliction.

And these were all well off people, not poor.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:48 PM (eoQWY)

240 Viictorian prudery was a reaction to the salacious and debauched Regency and Georgian eras, when everyone who was anyone contracted the syphilis.
Finally the aristos were sick and tired of turning silver from being dosed with mercury, so they were all like:
"Maybe we should pump the brakes a little, ok?"

Posted by: kallisto at December 16, 2022 03:25 PM (dCxaZ)
________________

Coming to a society near you. VERY near you. The disease this time won't be a bacterium, it'll be a disease of the soul.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 16, 2022 03:48 PM (YqDXo)

241 Sulu should have stayed in the closet where he belongs.
It's found in the shuttle bay.

Posted by: wth at December 16, 2022 03:49 PM (v0R5T)

242 normalphobia is what drives the left

"look at me when I actually accompish something" scares the shit out of the left
Posted by: REDACTED

AKA Oikophobia.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2022 03:49 PM (IyrhE)

243 James Longstreet, the Confederate General, was defending Richmond when a fever hit Richmond and three of his five kids died before he could ride there to see them. Gen Sherman had a son die during the war to illness. So did Lincoln, and Jeff Davis had a son die in a fall. Jeff Davis also eloped with his first wife, and she died on the honeymoon. He was affected his whole life with pain and partial blindness from the same affliction.

And these were all well off people, not poor.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:48 PM (eoQWY)

Modern sanitation is perhaps the greatest public health accomplishment, and one of the greatest human accomplishments, in history.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:50 PM (wmDcS)

244 One of the things we ignore is that the drive to reproduce is paramount in all species. With humans, we try to subvert it. It is what drives a lot of the problems in our culture.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 16, 2022 03:50 PM (uz3Px)

245 This junk didn't START during the pandemic - that's when it was DISCOVERED by parents who looked over their kids' shoulders and were horrified to discover what was on those remote-learning screens.
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Yes, yes, this. Even the very basic sex education classes ("health classes," they lied) at my school in the 90s had my parents demanding a meeting with the principal which ultimately secured an exemption from those classes.

It is absolutely stupefying how many parents readily accept that a state-employed stranger would provide their children with "sexual education." And this goes back decades before the current woke era.

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at December 16, 2022 03:50 PM (+aI/4)

246 Eleanor of Aqutaine was 81 when she died in 1204.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 16, 2022

***
And Katharine Hepburn looked every bit of that when she played Eleanor in The Lion in Winter

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:50 PM (J2vNu)

247 Viictorian prudery was a reaction to the salacious and debauched Regency and Georgian eras, when everyone who was anyone contracted the syphilis.

And honestly most of it wasn't prudery so much as "hey, lets show a little moral backbone." Between the extremes of what was being done then and what is being done now, which is the most regrettable and damaging to society? Which led to the most growth in civilization, technology, knowledge, science, and exploration?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:50 PM (0hOvj)

248 Faggotry. Faggotry as far as the eye can see.
Posted by: Buzz LightintheLoafers Year at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (DpCLO)
.......

A classic. Works on every thread.

Posted by: wth at December 16, 2022 03:50 PM (v0R5T)

249 wonder what marketing firm was behind that.

Yeah. Also, the client, big pharma, views and signs off on their finished product. So they can't plead ignorance.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (DteU4)

250 Women. The historical mamma bear protectors of children.
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Big Blue Shithole Teachers Unions are the SS of this movement. See Randi Weingarten for the details. All of this is OK'd by our Department of Education - the SS's lair.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (3FiQa)

251 So...who's gonna check out Avatar 2 this weekend?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

252 "I blame Sex and the City. A lot of women...married to the average schlub and living in the suburbs and they are pissed about it."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16,

That's just a modern-day extension of the "happily ever after" "Prince Charming" myth that girls are fed from the day that they are born.

Too many women feel like they don't have to do anything, or bring anything, to the table in a relationship, whatsoever. The Twilight series is an excellent example. She was a blank slate. She did literally nothing through the entire trilogy but exist, but was the object of desire of every man who came into contact with her.

The lie we've told young women their entire lives is that they are so fucking special, and so amazing, and so special, that men will literally compete for them. They get angry and bitter when they realize that that's only true for some women.

They settle for a middle class schlub, and resent him for it, as if any of it is his fault. He's probably a perfectly decent dude, but he was set up.

Posted by: Goober at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (Hgvgt)

253 241 Sulu should have stayed in the closet where he belongs.
It's found in the shuttle bay.
Posted by: wth at December 16, 2022 03:49 PM (v0R5T)

Kirk orders aft thrusters and Sulu has to excuse himself to go be in his bunk.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (N39Ws)

254 Put this in the right article.

https://tinyurl.com/bdetnud4

Posted by: DFCtomm at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (OHy0b)

255 "Don't question me. Just do what you're told and keep your mouth shut."

Like parents, teachers, cops...

Posted by: Tyrants come in all shapes, sizes, roles, and professions at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (HwoXV)

256
Child beauty pageants are creepy AF.

But I've never thought of 'em as "Southern." The most famous ever little beauty pageant girl was murdered in my home state of CO.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (oINRc)

257 We are dealing with a reality defined by women who, 30 some years later still believe that movie they saw as a teen about evil conservatives banning dancing was real.

If they don't vote Democrat and let every sexual perversion and pervert flourish, why high school proms will be illegal!!!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (LoCBk)

258 251 So...who's gonna check out Avatar 2 this weekend?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

Me. I hope the marines win this one.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (mE7cY)

259 252 Too many women feel like they don't have to do anything, or bring anything, to the table in a relationship, whatsoever. The Twilight series is an excellent example. She was a blank slate. She did literally nothing through the entire trilogy but exist, but was the object of desire of every man who came into contact with her.

The lie we've told young women their entire lives is that they are so fucking special, and so amazing, and so special, that men will literally compete for them. They get angry and bitter when they realize that that's only true for some women.

They settle for a middle class schlub, and resent him for it, as if any of it is his fault. He's probably a perfectly decent dude, but he was set up.
Posted by: Goober at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (Hgvgt)

========

"I cannot resist her mousy awkwardness! My raging boner will not rest until we have entered a long-term committed relationship together!"
-The work of one of the world's greatest writers

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

260 People say the left works on a friend/enemy distinction..this is true.

But they also have a far simpler political heuristic. Does it bother the chuds?

That's it. That simple..I defy someone to show me a modern shitlib position that isn't meant to own the chuds.

Posted by: Broseidon at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (B2DjU)

261 258 251 So...who's gonna check out Avatar 2 this weekend?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

Me. I hope the marines win this one.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (mE7cY)

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They won't, so...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

262 Women. The historical mamma bear protectors of children.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:48 PM (mE7cY

This has always been largely a myth. A lot of women would throw their children to the wolves if it benefitted themselves. Look at how often mom knows that her kid is being sexually abused and either looks the other way, or supports it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:53 PM (wmDcS)

263 And these were all well off people, not poor.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:48 PM (eoQWY)
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Cholera hit Bexar when Jim Bowie was away on an expedition - wiped out his family, wife, children, parents-in-law. I believe the only relative who survived was his sister-in-law. That's when he started drinking again...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 16, 2022 03:53 PM (AuTCi)

264 "Yeah, I know the one you're referring to. Very obviously inappropriate, and I wonder what marketing firm was behind that."

Is that the one with the back soccer player, and the oddly made up white girl?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 16, 2022 03:53 PM (1n+EO)

265 Me. I hope the marines win this one.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (mE7cY)

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They won't, so...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

Oh. Thanks! You just saved me a lot of money!!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:53 PM (mE7cY)

266 Why should women not be able to be in various fields like medicine and business? Why should women have to put up with being harassed and groped in the workplace?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:45 PM (0hOvj)

They have always been able to do that. Women ran all sorts of businesses, family stores and such all the way back in Roman times.

And decent women were not harassed in the workplace because any man could be called in to beat the crap out of someone who did. Feminism in the 60s and 70s was to make marrying and having kids and raising kids unfashionable. I was there and pissed off because my mom was in the category they were running down.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:53 PM (eoQWY)

267 . . . One of the greatest errors we made, in my opinion, was extending the vote to women ~~without also extending the draft.~~
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 16, 2022

***
I took the liberty . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 03:44 PM (J2vNu)
____________

My pet peeve is that the rationale for lowering the voting age to 18 was that men were being drafted to fight who couldn't vote. OK, fair enough. But they also lowered the voting age for women, who were not subject to the draft. WTF?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (YqDXo)

268 So...who's gonna check out Avatar 2 this weekend?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood
........

I might take the grandkids next Friday if we have time.
It's not rated R (for retarded) is it?

Posted by: wth at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (v0R5T)

269 back=black

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (1n+EO)

270 Apparently, the MacGuffin of Avatar 2 is liquid in the whales of Pandora that makes people immortal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (LvTSG)

271 Oh. Thanks! You just saved me a lot of money!!
Posted by: AlaBAMA
___

lol

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (kMPrp)

272 Child beauty pageants are creepy AF.

But I've never thought of 'em as "Southern." The most famous ever little beauty pageant girl was murdered in my home state of CO.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 16, 2022 03:52 PM (oINRc)

Little Miss Sunshine captured the creepy factor well. Alan Arkin was great in that one.

Also, we move to CO right after that murder happened. It occurred to me she would be in her 30s now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (xPJvm)

273 They settle for a middle class schlub, and resent him for it, as if any of it is his fault. He's probably a perfectly decent dude, but he was set up.
Posted by: Goober at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (Hgvgt)

Not to mention that poor bastard has been lied to since he was in preschool about female nature and that he's supposed to be a good boy, a nice little beta simp, and that simping harder than the next guy is how to succeed with females in relationships.

Posted by: Bullshit, lies, and more bullshit and lies at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (HwoXV)

274 Too many women feel like they don't have to do anything, or bring anything, to the table in a relationship, whatsoever.
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This is why you look for Dutch Milk Maids and Viking Shield Maidens. Stuff happens.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (3FiQa)

275 It's solely a tool for division.

Aside, twitter files "The FBI subsidiary" is supposed to be coming out right now.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (hgD8w)

276 Can we haz a nice happy thread with no perverts?

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (ZEa+g)

277 Conservatives say "keep our kids away from overt sexualization" and they are right, but many of them consider any sex ed at all to be wrong. And those Conservatives are also wrong.

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Most conservative like myself have yet to prepubescents being taught sex ed, and everything I needed to anf did learn (because I had neglectful alcoholic parents who didn't discuss it), I learned in high school biology and health classes.

No sex ed necessary ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (rbZ2o)

278 Its still not warm out thar, but it has stopped raining.

Posted by: JT at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (T4tVD)

279 "So, sex before 8 or else it's too late?"

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions

You're part of the problem, bucko, If you think that's the "middle ground" I'm advocating for.

Posted by: Goober at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (Hgvgt)

280 268 I might take the grandkids next Friday if we have time.
It's not rated R (for retarded) is it?
Posted by: wth at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (v0R5T)

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Movies targeting $2 billion at the box office do not get rated R. They are often retarded, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

281 I've heard mixed reviews of Avatar, but none of them are particularly glowing, with even the good ones using words like "dumb" and "bad plotting" along with setting it up with "the story will work better when parts THREE THROUGH FIVE COME OUT. I'm just gonna say this will not earn the two freaking billion (with a B) dollars it needs to break even. Part of the problem with financing is that Cameron filmed part 3 at the same time and its now being cartoonized with computer graphics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (0hOvj)

282 " Avatar 2, sleeps with the fishes "

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (DteU4)

283 I still have not seen Avatar.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (ppBhU)

284 Avatar 2: Starring Troy McClure.....

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (wmDcS)

285 Feminism in the 60s and 70s was to make marrying and having kids and raising kids unfashionable.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:53 PM (eoQWY)
_______________

And let's face it, a LOT of feminists then were ... uh ... sisters of Sappho.

As that great thinker Earl Butz said, "If you no playa the game, you no make-a the rules."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

286 Can we haz a nice happy thread with no perverts?
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (ZEa+g)

I concur.

this evil shit tears me up.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (xPJvm)

287 252 "I blame Sex and the City. A lot of women...married to the average schlub and living in the suburbs and they are pissed about it."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16,

Too many women feel like they don't have to do anything, or bring anything, to the table in a relationship, whatsoever. The Twilight series is an excellent example. She was a blank slate. She did literally nothing through the entire trilogy but exist, but was the object of desire of every man who came into contact with her.

The lie we've told young women their entire lives is that they are so fucking special, and so amazing, and so special, that men will literally compete for them. They get angry and bitter when they realize that that's only true for some women.

Posted by: Goober at December 16, 2022 03:51 PM (Hgvgt)
______________________

It's all fantasy for girls. Guys have their own entertainment for their own fantasies. But unlike girls who think S&C is real, guys don't actually think they're gonna make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (iFTx/)

288 283 I still have not seen Avatar.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (ppBhU)

So you're the guy who hasn't missed a damn thing.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (d1p/J)

289 Twitter files "The FBI subsidiary"

4 PM ET.

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/

status/1603853569391996929

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (hgD8w)

290 >268 So...who's gonna check out Avatar 2 this weekend?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood

Saw the first one and was in a word, underwhelmed. Of course I'm the only person in the world who thought ET was a saccharine fueled tire fire.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (gryET)

291 There are some movies I want to see that come out next year.

John Wick 4
Dungeons and Dragons
DeadPool 3

To name a few.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:57 PM (mE7cY)

292 Crap.

*OBJECT to prepubescents being taught sex ed,

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 16, 2022 03:57 PM (rbZ2o)

293 This junk didn't START during the pandemic - that's when it was DISCOVERED by parents who looked over their kids' shoulders and were horrified to discover what was on those remote-learning screens. Kids were hit with years of sexual and political indoctrination before that.

==

see, pandemic was not a total loss

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2022 03:57 PM (V13WU)

294 No surprise Sulu turned gay, I mean check out the Captain's tight pants.
Rowrr

Posted by: Yeoman Randy at December 16, 2022 03:57 PM (v0R5T)

295 Oh and the new Mission Impossible

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:57 PM (mE7cY)

296

A huge reason they want to put kids on puberty blockers is to keep them looking as young as possible until they age into the local age of consent or turn 18 or whatever. Then they can legally f*** them while they still look 11 or whatever.

Posted by: Dr Smith-Jones at December 16, 2022 03:57 PM (AWN2V)

297 Pat Morita>>>>George Takei

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (xPJvm)

298 281 I've heard mixed reviews of Avatar, but none of them are particularly glowing, with even the good ones using words like "dumb" and "bad plotting" along with setting it up with "the story will work better when parts THREE THROUGH FIVE COME OUT. I'm just gonna say this will not earn the two freaking billion (with a B) dollars it needs to break even. Part of the problem with financing is that Cameron filmed part 3 at the same time and its now being cartoonized with computer graphics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:55 PM (0hOvj)

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I saw the first one in theaters once. I eventually bought the Blu-ray (it's a really nice 3-disc package), and I've watched it a couple of times since.

It's not terrible, but it's pretty much everything wrong with Cameron as a storyteller backed up by tons of CGI while he also flexes his muscles in terms of action filmmaking. Also, Stephen Lang is awesome, and he's the true hero of the film.

I'll eventually see 2 because I watch just about everything, but I might wait for the week after its release on RedBox so I can use a free code.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (LvTSG)

299 Apparently, the MacGuffin of Avatar 2 is liquid in the whales of Pandora that makes people immortal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 03:54 PM (LvTSG)

Is it called Immortalium?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (eoQWY)

300 "This has always been largely a myth. A lot of women would throw their children to the wolves if it benefitted themselves. Look at how often mom knows that her kid is being sexually abused and either looks the other way, or supports it."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16

Absolutely. How many stories have you heard in your life of moms covering for the new boyfriend that she knows is molesting her kids, because "sHE lOvES hiM!!!"

Posted by: Goober at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (Hgvgt)

301 I'm not the problem, bucko.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (DteU4)

302 It's all fantasy for girls. Guys have their own entertainment for their own fantasies. But unlike girls who think S&C is real, guys don't actually think they're gonna make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (iFTx

*lowers head*

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (mE7cY)

303 It's all fantasy for girls. Guys have their own entertainment for their own fantasies. But unlike girls who think S&C is real, guys don't actually think they're gonna make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.

Well, its pitched differently. Women's fantasies are sold as reality and possibility. Men's fantasies are sold as "of course you aren't going to turn green and grow 300 pounds of muscle when you get mad, this is all in fun."

Its an important distinction. Women are being trained that this is how life is supposed to be and can be for you, if you dream hard enough.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (0hOvj)

304 We have some friends who had 3 girls. The Mom had some issue from her teen(?) years and never felt comfortable dancing, etc, so they enrolled the girl's in dancing school when they were young.

Anyway, the plan worked all the girls were good dancers, and socially confident and married good guys.

However -

All along that road were perverts and molesters. Several times from the time the girls were small, DDad had to chase Peeping Toms away from the girls windows, including those who would knock on the window and try to get the girls to come out in the middle of the night, when they were young girls.

BONUS! One of their good friends also came knocking on the window trying to get the girls to come out.

The father started keeping a shotgun by his bed to chase away the pedos.

So, if you don't think pedos/groomers and other perverts don't show up at these dance recitals, beauty pageants,etc. You are wrong.

Pedos like what they're doing so they keep doing it. The death penalty is more appropriate than a jail sentence...because they won't stop.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2022 03:59 PM (KLPy8)

305 It's all fantasy for girls. Guys have their own entertainment for their own fantasies. But unlike girls who think S&C is real, guys don't actually think they're gonna make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (iFTx

*lowers head*
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (mE7cY)

The stripper told me that she loved me!

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:59 PM (wmDcS)

306 The middle ground, folks. The middle ground.

Posted by: Goober at December 16, 2022 03:45 PM (Hgvgt)

The middle ground is the playground of the demonic Left. Forget it.

Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 03:59 PM (7HyDs)

307 I mean, I might make the Kessel Run on day.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 04:00 PM (mE7cY)

308 Saw the first one and was in a word, underwhelmed. Of course I'm the only person in the world who thought ET was a saccharine fueled tire fire.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022 03:56 PM (gryET)

Never saw either. American kids of that era and they didn't kill ET with rocks? UNBELIEVABLE. I should know, I was one.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:00 PM (eoQWY)

309 So, if you don't think pedos/groomers and other perverts don't show up at these dance recitals, beauty pageants,etc. You are wrong.

Pedos like what they're doing so they keep doing it. The death penalty is more appropriate than a jail sentence...because they won't stop.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2022 03:59 PM (KLPy

A friend has Stories about the horse community...

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 04:00 PM (wmDcS)

310 Parsecs are a unit of distance not time!

Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2022 04:00 PM (lc5cP)

311 >All along that road were perverts and molesters. Several times from the time the girls were small, DDad had to chase Peeping Toms away from the girls windows, including those who would knock on the window and try to get the girls to come out in the middle of the night, when they were young girls.

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I came *very* close to punching the lights out of a dude who was creeping on my daughter in a WaWa when she was 12.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022 04:01 PM (gryET)

312 303 Well, its pitched differently. Women's fantasies are sold as reality and possibility. Men's fantasies are sold as "of course you aren't going to turn green and grow 300 pounds of muscle when you get mad, this is all in fun."

Its an important distinction. Women are being trained that this is how life is supposed to be and can be for you, if you dream hard enough.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (0hOvj)

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There also seems to be a stronger need for basic plotting in men's fantasy stuff. It seems to have more in terms of dramatic structure, stakes, and payoffs that female fantasy fiction doesn't have.

I wonder if that's because the women behind a lot of female fantasy fiction imagine themselves, largely inactive people, as their heroes and expect good things to just happen to them. For men, it seems to be more about the struggle of overcoming obstacles.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 04:01 PM (LvTSG)

313 t's not terrible, but it's pretty much everything wrong with Cameron as a storyteller backed up by tons of CGI while he also flexes his muscles in terms of action filmmaking.

Cameron can really tell a hell of a story with film, he should be used in classes to show how to do it. But if you let artists like that off the chain you get stuff like King Kong and The Hateful 8. Directors need someone controlling their less wise and more ridiculous impulses, but sadly Avatar made a gajillion dollars so he is now allowed to do anything no matter how stupid and wasteful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 04:01 PM (0hOvj)

314 Is it called Immortalium?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (eoQWY)
........

Nodeceasium.

Posted by: Yeoman Randy at December 16, 2022 04:01 PM (v0R5T)

315 Well, its pitched differently. Women's fantasies are sold as reality and possibility. Men's fantasies are sold as "of course you aren't going to turn green and grow 300 pounds of muscle when you get mad, this is all in fun."

Its an important distinction. Women are being trained that this is how life is supposed to be and can be for you, if you dream hard enough.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 03:58 PM (0hOvj)

They're also more susceptible to things like this, see hypochondriacs.

There is so far not that much propaganda aimed at making men drop their roles, but it's only a matter of time when the pay (women/families) goes away.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:02 PM (eYoxG)

316 The lie we've told young women their entire lives is that they are so fucking special, ..
Posted by: Goober

That was me. Sorry.

Posted by: Radiohead at December 16, 2022 04:02 PM (aQVbS)

317 How many people know that Oba Diah in the Outer Rim was the end point of the kessel run?

Just me? Ok. I am a nerd.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (mE7cY)

318

"13? Hell, she looked 15 to me!"

Posted by: Cheech or Chong, I forget at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (gMabG)

319 >That was me. Sorry.

Posted by: Radiohead at December 16, 2022 04:02 PM (aQVbS)

Creep.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (gryET)

320 Where did these perverts come from. I'm 29 and admit to being a hippie for awhile. But in my entire life, I have never met a transsexual, a furry, someone who pretends to be a dog to get off, a drag queen...have never even seen a drag queen thing being advertised.
After my hippie years, I grew up, got married, had kids, made a living and never once saw any of this.
Is it like an Urban thing?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (Y+l9t)

321 There are some movies I want to see that come out next year.

John Wick 4
Dungeons and Dragons
DeadPool 3

To name a few.

There's a space/crashlanding/dinosaur pic called "65" that comes out first quarter next year that looks promising.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (ppBhU)

322 Look at how often mom knows that her kid is being sexually abused and either looks the other way, or supports it."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

I don't know often it is. Certainly more common than in an unbroken home, I'm sure.

But it's tough if you're a stepdad. The biological father is always going to side-eye you for a couple years.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (oINRc)

323 321 There's a space/crashlanding/dinosaur pic called "65" that comes out first quarter next year that looks promising.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (ppBhU)

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I'm not sure promising is the right word.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 04:04 PM (LvTSG)

324
I wonder if that's because the women behind a lot of female fantasy fiction imagine themselves, largely inactive people, as their heroes and expect good things to just happen to them. For men, it seems to be more about the struggle of overcoming obstacles.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 04:01 PM (LvTSG)

Well societally this tends to be more true. Men have conventionally competed in a success hierarchy that establishes their mating position. Women do not traditionally compete in some sort of accomplishment hierarchy to attract men.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:04 PM (eYoxG)

325 There also seems to be a stronger need for basic plotting in men's fantasy stuff. It seems to have more in terms of dramatic structure, stakes, and payoffs that female fantasy fiction doesn't have.

I think women's fantasies are more compelling on an emotional level which many if not most women tend to generally be inclined toward, but not all women and I don't mean you personally if you are reading this so you don't have to post "NOT ME!"

Men, similarly tend to be more logical and fact based in their interests, generally, so you get stuff that adds up better (but not always). Guys ask "how did that work and how did she do that?" where women ask stuff like "why did she do that and how did they feel about it?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 04:04 PM (0hOvj)

326 This country opened this closet of horrors with gay marriage. There's a reason the Bible warns us about the "alternative" lifestyle.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2022 04:04 PM (BdMk6)

327 There's a space/crashlanding/dinosaur pic called "65" that comes out first quarter next year that looks promising.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (ppBhU)
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Crashlanding dinosaurs? Whoa.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 16, 2022 04:04 PM (AuTCi)

328 It's all about power.

Have kids, grandkids under certain medical systems? Go online and check at what age they can have their own accounts. MANY state: If you're age 14 or older, you can have your own xxxxx Medicine account.
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More women seem to be involved, especially when the victimized children are quite young. Some may be hidden by the BS about intersectionality and education.
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County just had a sex sting operation over four days. Six men, from age 24 to 56, were caught near an area with family oriented parks, believing they were meeting a 14 year old girl, or boy, for sex. The men were White, Black, Asian and Hispanic & two were from the county; two from Philly; one from an adjacent county, and one from Colorado.

This is as bad as I've ever seen it in this county. What's even scarier is that we have so many new migrant 'residents' in the vicinity and now a Covenant House site, too.

Posted by: Lola at December 16, 2022 04:04 PM (NIYa7)

329 320 Where did these perverts come from. I'm 29 and admit to being a hippie for awhile. But in my entire life, I have never met a transsexual, a furry, someone who pretends to be a dog to get off, a drag queen...have never even seen a drag queen thing being advertised.
After my hippie years, I grew up, got married, had kids, made a living and never once saw any of this.
Is it like an Urban thing?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (Y+l9t)

The internet brought out all the perversions and has done some recruiting as well.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 04:04 PM (mE7cY)

330 I wonder if that's because the women behind a lot of female fantasy fiction imagine themselves, largely inactive people, as their heroes and expect good things to just happen to them. For men, it seems to be more about the struggle of overcoming obstacles.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 04:01 PM (LvTSG)
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We need body-positive heroes.

Posted by: Axeman at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (krQz2)

331 FBI Twitter files happening

Posted by: Summer at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (5xdFU)

332 320 Where did these perverts come from. I'm 29 and admit to being a hippie for awhile. But in my entire life, I have never met a transsexual, a furry, someone who pretends to be a dog to get off, a drag queen...have never even seen a drag queen thing being advertised.
After my hippie years, I grew up, got married, had kids, made a living and never once saw any of this.
Is it like an Urban thing?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (Y+l9t)

Worked with a guy who was a furry. He was one of those people who always alluded to having a secret that he didn't want anyone to know, all the while purposely giving you information so you would know.

Anyway, he was a fucking weirdo even without the furry stuff.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (d1p/J)

333 Parsecs are a unit of distance not time!

***

"We sorted that out in one of the original Star Wars Expanded Universe novels!"

- writers who actually love Star Wars and aren't mentally ill

Posted by: Azathoth at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (wb1YC)

334 "This junk didn't START during the pandemic "

Yeah, a lot of the woke lit and curriculum passed around among teachers is 1990s vintage.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (24fqN)

335 The alphabet society is simply a voting block a contingency created for the goon squad to maintain complete control.Sorry but this country is over. Soon the real agenda will become known . One can only imagine what it will be.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (SSpZR)

336 If Kirk turned Sulu gay, then Uhura could have cured him.

Posted by: wth at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (v0R5T)

337 Women. The historical mamma bear protectors of children.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 03:48 PM (mE7cY)

Eve wasn't just a river in Egypt

Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (7HyDs)

338 Where did these perverts come from. I'm 29 and admit to being a hippie for awhile. But in my entire life, I have never met a transsexual, a furry, someone who pretends to be a dog to get off, a drag queen...have never even seen a drag queen thing being advertised.
After my hippie years, I grew up, got married, had kids, made a living and never once saw any of this.
Is it like an Urban thing?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 16, 2022 04:03 PM (Y+l9t)

Used to be you had to dig for it, it was part of the charm that they were oppressed against the world.

Now everyone is that way, and the world oppressing anyone who isnt.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (eoQWY)

339 Should be petition going around calling for the death penalty for groomers, and life in prison for those that provide material support (accessories).

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (uZPtT)

340 I'm not sure promising is the right word.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 04:04 PM (LvTSG)

Thinks about mention Prometheus.
Refrains from mentioning Prometheus.
Does part to keep thread Prometheus free.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 04:06 PM (mE7cY)

341 The lie we've told young women their entire lives is that they are so fucking special, ..
Posted by: Goober
___

Some of us, not so much...

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 16, 2022 04:06 PM (kMPrp)

342 It's going to take a very brutal push back with a lot of pedos being made bloody examples of before the few survivors take the hint and leave normal people alone.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 16, 2022 04:06 PM (Z7Jj3)

343 If Kirk turned Sulu gay, then Uhura could have cured him.
Posted by: wth at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (v0R5T)

if only his station faced the other direction...

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:06 PM (eoQWY)

344 338 Used to be you had to dig for it, it was part of the charm that they were oppressed against the world.

Now everyone is that way, and the world oppressing anyone who isnt.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (eoQWY)

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"I'm so oppressed that I can parade around in my underwear and say whatever I want without consequence."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 04:06 PM (LvTSG)

345 satan.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at December 16, 2022 04:07 PM (ytSiK)

346 There's a space/crashlanding/dinosaur pic called "65" that comes out first quarter next year that looks promising.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority
........

Don't tell me. The aliens eat all the dinosaurs, fix their spaceship and fly off. Then humans in the future blame it all on an asteroid.

Posted by: wth at December 16, 2022 04:07 PM (v0R5T)

347 "We sorted that out in one of the original Star Wars Expanded Universe novels!"

- writers who actually love Star Wars and aren't mentally ill
Posted by: Azathoth at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (wb1YC)

Yeah, lets use that one instead of the "Lucas is dumb as crap" explanation and pretend he never said it.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:07 PM (eoQWY)

348 Educating children about LGTBQ stuff is also important, because some children are LGTBQ and all children will be exposed to it eventually.

Are they? The evidence seems pretty thin.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) goes full Yogi at December 16, 2022 04:07 PM (yQpMk)

349 Pederasts are just another "division" of the Sodomite's agenda.

There used to be laws against sodomites for this very reason.

But hate has no home except for the democrat party.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2022 04:07 PM (R/m4+)

350 Some of us, not so much...

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 16, 2022 04:06 PM (kMPrp)

You are special to me, but you already knew that.

Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 04:08 PM (7HyDs)

351 I told you Ben Collins wanted Elon Musk dead.

Posted by: Axeman at December 16, 2022 04:08 PM (krQz2)

352 347 "We sorted that out in one of the original Star Wars Expanded Universe novels!"

- writers who actually love Star Wars and aren't mentally ill
Posted by: Azathoth at December 16, 2022 04:05 PM (wb1YC)

Yeah, lets use that one instead of the "Lucas is dumb as crap" explanation and pretend he never said it.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:07 PM (eoQWY)

He seems to get a lot more crap for it than Star Trek does for their routine technobabble.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:08 PM (eYoxG)

353 Emerald Robinson and Okeefe are both back on Twitter.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 04:09 PM (mE7cY)

354 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy who shouts "En fuego!" at December 16, 2022 04:09 PM (a3Q+t)

355

Ca-Ching!

Posted by: Space Dinosaur Rape Fantasy Authors (all female) at December 16, 2022 04:09 PM (gMabG)

356 Is it like an Urban thing?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 16, 2022

***
I'm guessing so. I had no idea as a boy, but there was a certain element of . . . gayness (though that wasn't the term then) . . . in the city neighborhood where I lived. The area is infamous for it now. But my parents never talked about such things, and neither did anyone else.

When I was 9, on a Saturday afternoon my mother and I took shelter in a bar from a rainstorm. Sitting at the bar, drinking with another man, was my grammar school principal. He was married and had a son my my class.

Years later Mom told me, "That was a gay bar even back then."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 04:09 PM (J2vNu)

357 I think there's a travellers/southern gypsy subculture that supports/runs child beauty pageants.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 16, 2022 04:09 PM (lIyhv)

358 Nood.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (eYoxG)

359 I'm definitely not gay.

Posted by: Uhura's comm chair at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (v0R5T)

360 Funny, according to the feminists in the 60s and 70s- I lived through that as a teen/young woman- the problem was that women had to bring TOO MUCH to relationships, and they were going to change all that.

I guess they did.

In good news, my dear young friend just sent me a photo of her seven at the parish All Saint's party. It's on the fridge.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (wE246)

361 You are special to me, but you already knew that.
Posted by: ... at December 16, 2022 04:08 PM (7HyDs)
___

You're sweet.

It made me chuckle a little.

But I agree in part, that a lot of young folks were brought up thinking their shit don't stink, and are in desperate need of a good ass-whupping.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (kMPrp)

362 I'm not sure promising is the right word.

I'm a product of my environment. No one is wearing a cape, the preview features no reverse mansplaining, and there does not appear to be a dinosaur sex scene.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (ppBhU)

363 The problem with women and men in society today has nothing to do with men being "simps" etc. It has to do with a total breakdown of the idea of gentlemen and ladies, with restraint, and with a lack of a moral backbone to hold up civilization.

A man being a "nice guy" like paying for the meal, pulling out her chair, opening the door, etc isn't him being weak and easily controlled, that's how a gentleman is supposed to behave.

The reason it doesn't work and ruins people today isn't that this behavior is wrong, its that it only applies to ladies. One did not extend all these things to a trashy slut in the gutter. She was less than him, and wasn't extended social graces because she'd rejected all of them in her life. She chose that path.

Now, women are told they should ALL be like that, and are pressured to be that way by every single source around them, including their alleged friends. Being a gentleman to a worthless street trash whore is a failure in social graces, not weakness. Its misguided, and should not be applied.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (0hOvj)

364 This has always been largely a myth. A lot of women would throw their children to the wolves if it benefitted themselves. Look at how often mom knows that her kid is being sexually abused and either looks the other way, or supports it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 16, 2022 03:53 PM (wmDcS)

I wouldn't want to marry a woman who wouldn't hurt me if I hurt her kids.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (eGTCV)

365 I do also think this grooming is Leftism taking children and turning them away from family and a normal lifestyle.
Turn them into freaks so only Leftists will protect them.

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 16, 2022 04:11 PM (xhxe8)

366 316- I certainly sent that message to my 4 daughters, and they are, very much so, to me, as is my son.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 16, 2022 04:11 PM (lIyhv)

367 But I agree in part, that a lot of young folks were brought up thinking their shit don't stink, and are in desperate need of a good ass-whupping.
Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (kMPrp)

Don't know why, but I read that in Jack Nickelson's voice.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 04:11 PM (mE7cY)

368 "I'm so oppressed that I can parade around in my underwear and say whatever I want without consequence."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 16, 2022 04:06 PM

You're in your underwear when you're thinking about mentioning Prometheus?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 16, 2022 04:11 PM (a3Q+t)

369 Oh. Just figured it out. The Jack Nickleson thing. Batman.

This town could use an enema.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 16, 2022 04:12 PM (mE7cY)

370 "Marginalized communities..." The least marginalized communities in this country are the so-called "marginalized communities." These fucks are glorified, beatified, hero-worshipped, featured in movies, on TV, and on and on and on. At this point in America's debasement, the truly marginalized are the normies.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 16, 2022 04:12 PM (S7une)

371 Shoe 0 Head has expressed exasperation that some conservatives approve of some of her viewpoints. Boohoo. The problem is that when you're a lefty, you are a part of the morally corrupt left. No matter how you pick and choose the elements you support or despise, you're supporting the disgusting steamroller of cultural corruption.

Sorry hon, but that's where the polarization of the left has taken us.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 16, 2022 04:12 PM (Mzdiz)

372 What I can't figure out is why they make movies pitched to this small segment of the population. Can't remember which movie they were talking about but the pitch was that it was an all woman production. Producer, director etc. I didn't read on because I have zero interest. I like men. I like action movies. I like Sci fi movies. I do not like rom coms. I do not like movies with all female leads.
I know I am not in the minority.
Why do they keep doing this when they keep losing money.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 16, 2022 04:12 PM (Y+l9t)

373 When I was 9, on a Saturday afternoon my mother and I took shelter in a bar from a rainstorm. Sitting at the bar, drinking with another man, was my grammar school principal. He was married and had a son my my class.
Years later Mom told me, "That was a gay bar even back then."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2022 04:09 PM (J2vNu)

Like that "Fraiser" episode when he went into Bad Billy's to out one of what's her name's current boyfriend.

Those tight shorts he wore, hilarious.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2022 04:12 PM (R/m4+)

374 363 The problem with women and men in society today has nothing to do with men being "simps" etc. It has to do with a total breakdown of the idea of gentlemen and ladies, with restraint, and with a lack of a moral backbone to hold up civilization.

A man being a "nice guy" like paying for the meal, pulling out her chair, opening the door, etc isn't him being weak and easily controlled, that's how a gentleman is supposed to behave.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (0hOvj)

That's not generally what is meant by "simp". It's more like being servile and sucking up, beta orbiters would be a good example. Or the "men" in a"polycule.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:12 PM (eYoxG)

375 Dude don’t fall for the “whattaboutism” re beauty pageants. Just say “yeah they suck ban those too.” Easy trade.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at December 16, 2022 04:13 PM (4OVnj)

376 He seems to get a lot more crap for it than Star Trek does for their routine technobabble.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:08 PM (eYoxG)

That's because Roddenberry was a little smarter. He called the guns "Phasers" instead of lasers because people know how lasers work. Phasers can work how they want, kinda.

Lucas did it more than that. Remember how the Force used to be hippy-dippy mysticism? I could accept that but when he flipped it to be biological midichlorians the force was dead to me along with the movies after that.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:13 PM (eoQWY)

377 There's no vast, ideologically driven neo-Marxist scheme at work here to orchestrated to sexualize children, although some of those advocating for it might rationalize what they're really doing with a flimsy philosophical/political justification. No, I would guess the majority of those seeking to sexualize children are child-raping monsters whose greatest thrill is the destruction of innocence.

And I'm also beginning to think the world really is secretly ruled by a sinister, elitist cabal of devil-worshiping pedophiles.

Posted by: troyriser at December 16, 2022 04:14 PM (kDxLa)

378 Hitler had these Summer camps for adolescents. When the girls all got pregnant, the children were called "Hitler babies."

Religious families, both Catholic and Lutheran were seriously pissed.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 16, 2022 04:14 PM (I9VC/)

379 The only polycules I've seen pictured are full of losers.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 16, 2022 04:14 PM (Mzdiz)

380 What else is sad is that so many 3rd world nations have moved to elevate their legal ages for consexual sex but the U.S. undermines it, as it has abortion limitations.

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Posted by: Lola at December 16, 2022 04:14 PM (NIYa7)

381 And I'm also beginning to think the world really is secretly ruled by a sinister, elitist cabal of devil-worshiping pedophiles.

Klaus Schwab and the WEF.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 16, 2022 04:15 PM (I9VC/)

382 That's because Roddenberry was a little smarter. He called the guns "Phasers" instead of lasers because people know how lasers work. Phasers can work how they want, kinda.

Lucas did it more than that. Remember how the Force used to be hippy-dippy mysticism? I could accept that but when he flipped it to be biological midichlorians the force was dead to me along with the movies after that.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:13 PM (eoQWY)

The prequels were very big on exposition, devoting extensive time to trying to explain how everything worked. Which was probably a bad idea from a storytelling perspective.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:15 PM (eYoxG)

383 That's not generally what is meant by "simp". It's more like being servile and sucking up, beta orbiters would be a good example. Or the "men" in a"polycule.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:12 PM (eYoxG)

It originated with that. It is spreading to be more and more just a man who is decent to them to the girls themselves.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:15 PM (eoQWY)

384 Now, women are told they should ALL be like that, and are pressured to be that way by every single source around them, including their alleged friends. Being a gentleman to a worthless street trash whore is a failure in social graces, not weakness. Its misguided, and should not be applied.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2022 04:10 PM (0hOvj)

Excellent point. Trashy whores should only be dealt with with cash.

They really don't give a fudge about anything else.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2022 04:15 PM (R/m4+)

385 The prequels were very big on exposition, devoting extensive time to trying to explain how everything worked. Which was probably a bad idea from a storytelling perspective.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:15 PM (eYoxG)

there wasn't a story before - he went bad, and after the prequels there was even less - he was ALWAYS bad. So even there Lucas messed up his own story, since it made Obiwan look like an idiot for having fond memories of Crazy Anakin.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:16 PM (eoQWY)

386 The "Force" was Gnostic.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 16, 2022 04:17 PM (I9VC/)

387 383 That's not generally what is meant by "simp". It's more like being servile and sucking up, beta orbiters would be a good example. Or the "men" in a"polycule.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:12 PM (eYoxG)

It originated with that. It is spreading to be more and more just a man who is decent to them to the girls themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:15 PM (eoQWY)

Well insults do degrade like that. I think the original behavior that people were complaining about by labeling them "simps" is genuinely objectionable though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:17 PM (eYoxG)

388 Posted by: troyriser at December 16, 2022 04:14 PM (kDxLa)

I think it is all of the above.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:18 PM (eoQWY)

389 385 The prequels were very big on exposition, devoting extensive time to trying to explain how everything worked. Which was probably a bad idea from a storytelling perspective.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:15 PM (eYoxG)

there wasn't a story before - he went bad, and after the prequels there was even less - he was ALWAYS bad. So even there Lucas messed up his own story, since it made Obiwan look like an idiot for having fond memories of Crazy Anakin.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:16 PM (eoQWY)

They have a pretty good rapport at times. Anakin doesn't really show signs of being evil as a kid. I think the battle scenes establish them well enough as having been comrades-in-arms.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:19 PM (eYoxG)

390 I have a much simpler explanation for why the left is so excited about sexualizing children: because they're dirty perverted criminals who fantasize about sex with kids. Posted by: Elric Blade at December 16, 2022 03:15 PM (iFTx/)

Channeling your inner Norm MacDonald? I miss him.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 16, 2022 04:20 PM (7B5FA)

391 But by exposition I meant a bunch of needlessly showing how X or Y worked. What the structure of the Old Republic was like, details about how the clone army came to be and so on.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:20 PM (eYoxG)

392 They have a pretty good rapport at times. Anakin doesn't really show signs of being evil as a kid. I think the battle scenes establish them well enough as having been comrades-in-arms.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:19 PM (eYoxG)

He never goes back to free his mom from slavery, but goes on a murder spree when she is killed.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:23 PM (eoQWY)

393 So what does Gabe Malor have to say?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 16, 2022 04:23 PM (7B5FA)

394 Miley at 04:12 PM, even though she is right in some instances Shoe On Head is a leftie and a socialist so on the whole she is dedicated to our civilizational destruction. She shouldn't be surprized at being attacked from the left, these are her people, even the pedophiles.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 16, 2022 04:24 PM (3JfbU)

395 There's a high ratio of women to men on the left. The men seem unlikely as a driving force.

I'll modify that statement: there is a high ratio of very unattractive women on the left. When Sarah Silverman and Debby Wassermann Schultz were the two best looking women at the Dem convention in 2016, that was pretty (no pun intended) apparent. Much of the AWFL alliance is anger over the fact that they're visual rejects.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 16, 2022 04:25 PM (CecP5)

396 Normies are disgusted by chicks with d's and they gag when they see two dudes kissing. (Two chicks kissing is a more complicated subject.) It is a natural gag reflex developed in childhood. THAT is why "they" want to get to our children -- to normalize their deviated sexuality BEFORE the gag reflex kicks in. They think they are just intervening early to prevent the child from becoming an LGBTQ+ bigot. They think they are doing good. However, they are doing that by exposing very young children to their deviant sexual lifestyle (which we should all agree is inappropriate at that age, deviant or not), plus maybe there is a very good societal reason for that natural gag reflex in that it encourages a healthy sexuality that propagates the species. Also, since this campaign involves being around children in sexual situations, it provides ample targets of opportunities to the ped0s. I'm not sure of the ratio between the earnest activists looking to indoctrinate children before they become LGBTQ+ bigots and the ped0s in their midst, but I'm afraid the ratio is much higher than among the priesthood that caused a moral panic last decade.

Posted by: tommylotto at December 16, 2022 04:25 PM (6QQM8)

397 I'm not sure of the ratio between the earnest activists looking to indoctrinate children before they become LGBTQ+ bigots and the ped0s in their midst, but I'm afraid the ratio is much higher than among the priesthood that caused a moral panic last decade.
Posted by: tommylotto at December 16, 2022 04:25 PM (6QQM

A contributor to the priesthood pedo outbreak was the earlier normalizing of homosexuals into the church among Catholics who were worried about the lack of interest in the brotherhoods/seminaries.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:28 PM (eoQWY)

398 I'll modify that statement: there is a high ratio of very unattractive women on the left. When Sarah Silverman and Debby Wassermann Schultz were the two best looking women at the Dem convention in 2016, that was pretty (no pun intended) apparent. Much of the AWFL alliance is anger over the fact that they're visual rejects.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 16, 2022 04:25 PM (CecP5)

Rush had a saying about that but I won't quote it for fear of getting it wrong.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:29 PM (eoQWY)

399 They have a pretty good rapport at times. Anakin doesn't really show signs of being evil as a kid. I think the battle scenes establish them well enough as having been comrades-in-arms.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:19 PM (eYoxG)

+++++

I think it's a difficult task to write a good story when you already know how it all ends. However, there was so much story there to tell, that it wasn't a bad idea to go for it. The team that made the first trilogy wasn't right to make the next. Having a hero that everyone ultimately knows will be corrupted is tough, so he should not have been the focus although you could have still told his story.

Posted by: DFCtomm at December 16, 2022 04:30 PM (OHy0b)

400 392 They have a pretty good rapport at times. Anakin doesn't really show signs of being evil as a kid. I think the battle scenes establish them well enough as having been comrades-in-arms.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:19 PM (eYoxG)

He never goes back to free his mom from slavery, but goes on a murder spree when she is killed.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:23 PM (eoQWY)

That's on the Jedi, not Anakin. That's why taking him in at his age was controversial, the Jedi prefer them young enough to not have these attachments and try to sever them.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:32 PM (eYoxG)

401 That's on the Jedi, not Anakin. That's why taking him in at his age was controversial, the Jedi prefer them young enough to not have these attachments and try to sever them.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:32 PM (eYoxG)

So you might say that they are grooming the Padawans.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 16, 2022 04:37 PM (I8nLU)

402 401 That's on the Jedi, not Anakin. That's why taking him in at his age was controversial, the Jedi prefer them young enough to not have these attachments and try to sever them.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:32 PM (eYoxG)

So you might say that they are grooming the Padawans.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 16, 2022 04:37 PM (I8nLU)

For sterility and not sex, but yes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 16, 2022 04:41 PM (eYoxG)

403 John Hayward:

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Posted by: Tom at December 16, 2022 10:40 PM (rzmQP)

405 397 I'm not sure of the ratio between the earnest activists looking to indoctrinate children before they become LGBTQ+ bigots and the ped0s in their midst, but I'm afraid the ratio is much higher than among the priesthood that caused a moral panic last decade.
Posted by: tommylotto at December 16, 2022 04:25 PM (6QQM

A contributor to the priesthood pedo outbreak was the earlier normalizing of homosexuals into the church among Catholics who were worried about the lack of interest in the brotherhoods/seminaries.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 16, 2022 04:28 PM (eoQWY)

It was kinda an open secret back in the mid-late70-s and 80s's that the clergy had become a haven for practicing gays. (In Boston, anyway).

It was not open at the time that a fair number of them were pedophiles.

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