Kanye Walks Out of Tim Pool Interview When Asked About His Claims That "They" Are Controlling the World and "They" Are Hurting Him

Nick Fuentes was right there to back his employer and insist that it was all "Them's" fault.

Pool allowed West to express his views, largely uninterrupted, for the first fifteen minutes of the broadcast. He claimed that his recent, controversial dinner with former President Donald Trump had been scheduled last month -- apparently before West began making antisemitic comments such as the infamous "death con" tweet. The dinner was postponed until after the midterm elections; West confirmed that Trump did not know Fuentes.

So there's something.

West claimed that it was "beautiful" that people could see how Jews -- whom he referred to as "Zionists" at one stage -- cancel people.
Tim Pool then interrupted: "You went right into the antisemite thing ... If you start bringing this up, you're going to ask my opinion on it, I'm going to disagree with you." West replied: "I don't care about your opinion."
He then claimed that "Jewish people allowed" then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) to meet with the racist and antisemitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan in 2005.
Pool expressed empathy for West's experience of being canceled: "I think they've been extremely unfair to you."
"Who is 'they', though?" West replied. "We can't say who 'they' is, can we?"
"Corporate press," Pool replied.
Fuentes interjected: "It is 'them,' though, isn't it?"
Pool replied: "No, it's not."
"What do you mean it's not?" West asked.
He then stood up and left the room. His entourage followed.

Kanye West hates Jewish people.

Ye got up and left the @Timcast studio less than 10 minutes into the show when Tim pushed back on the claims he made that Jewish people control the world and are responsible for harming him. pic.twitter.com/NItWMHFHSi
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) November 29, 2022

Timcast co-host @Lukewearechange said that Ye told him as he was leaving the studio "you don't believe in my truths." pic.twitter.com/ZT1SCk77ZO
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) November 29, 2022

Meanwhile, various Republicans have begun issue statements about Trump's dinner with Ye, Milo, and Fuentes. The statements break down much as you'd expect, but in general, people are at least attempting to "distance" themselves from the dinner.

Mitch McConnell's #2:

Igor Bobic
@igorbobic
GOP Sen. Thune on Trump - Fuentes dinner:
"That's just a bad idea on every level. I don't know who was advising him on his staff but I hope that whoever that person was got fired"

Igor Bobic
@igorbobic
Asked by @frankthorp if it was appropriate for Trump to meet with Fuentes, GOP Sen. Daines says: "We cannot tolerate antisemitism. Period."
"It's bad," Cornyn says when asked about the Trump-Fuentes dinner
Blunt: "I've been tired about responding about what President Trump did or said for about four years. Seems to me there are other things you can ask about"
"I wouldn't want to have dinner with either one of those guys"

I can feel all of that.

On Fuentes and Ye:
Ernst: "I think it's ridiculous he had that meeting. I think it's ridiculous."
Deb Fischer: "It's not something I would have done. I think it's wrong anytime you elevate comments that that person says."
Rick Scott: "There's no room in the Republican Party for white supremacists and antisemitism, so it's wrong."
"I think Republicans should all condemn white supremacy and anti semitism."
Romney: "There's no bottom to the degree which he's willing to degrade himself and the country for that matter. Having dinner with those people was disgusting."
Hawley on Trump-Fuentes dinner:
"I suppose he can have dinner with whomever he wants to"
He then equated the situation with Rep. Ilhan Omar, saying she should be stripped of her committee assignments
Tuberville: "There's a lot of other people I would think he could have met with to help the country be stronger and go in the right direction."

Pence said that Trump should apologize for the dinner.

Former Vice President Mike Pence said Monday on NewsNation's "On Balance" that former President Donald Trump should apologize for having dinner at his Mar-a-Lago home in Palm Beach, FL with Kanye West and Nick Fuentes.
Pence said, "President Trump was wrong to give a white nationalist, an antisemite, and a Holocaust denier a seat at the table. And I think he should apologize for it, and he should denounce those individuals and their hateful rhetoric without qualification."
He continued, "With that being said, as I point out in the book as well, I don't believe Donald Trump is an antisemite. I don't believe he's a racist or a bigot. I would not have been his vice president if he was. And, you know, people often forget the president's daughter converted to Judaism, and his son-in-law is a devout Jew, and his grandchildren are Jewish."

I know Trump takes a "No apologies" position, but I think it would be a good idea for him to explain. Like, he says he wanted to "help" Kanye. Maybe he could remind people that he knew Kanye a little bit from their interactions regarding letting all those people out of prison so that Ivanka could show off for her socialite friends. (Don't get me started on that.) Like, he could explain that maybe Kanye was asking him for advice about how to get through a bad media spell, or whatever it was.

What I'm saying is that there are probably details that would be helpful to Trump, which he should share, and not just in some blustery off-the-cuff "Truth" on Truth Social. Like, take it seriously, write out your thoughts (or have someone write them out after you narrate them), and deliver prepared remarks.

Posted by: Ace at 03:08 PM

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1 Afternoon.

Posted by: Robert - Metallica, 72 Seasons, out 4/14 at November 29, 2022 03:08 PM (1hpTD)

2 Woo hoo! Fresh thread

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 29, 2022 03:08 PM (a/dOO)

3 Corgis called.

Now to consume content.

Posted by: Robert - Metallica, 72 Seasons, out 4/14 at November 29, 2022 03:09 PM (1hpTD)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)

5 "If its a group of black guys, its a gang, if its a group of Italians, its the Mob, if its a group of Jews, its a coincidence." - Dave Chappelle

Posted by: JB at November 29, 2022 03:09 PM (O3uss)

6 Kanye says he's a Christian, yet he hates the Jewish people.

Jesus was Jewish.

I just don't get it.

Then again, Kanye has some serious issues.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:10 PM (/hCMk)

7 Wat?

Posted by: Bosk at November 29, 2022 03:10 PM (ZVuYy)

8 That was weak all-around. Weak questions because of fear of being blow off Youtube. Ye weak for walking out.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at November 29, 2022 03:10 PM (ytSiK)

9 Timcast co-host @Lukewearechange said that Ye told him as he was leaving the studio "you don't believe in my truths." pic.twitter.com/ZT1SCk77ZO

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) November 29, 2022

Huh. He chooses truth over facts too, eh?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

10 I thought I read that Trump said he agreed to meet Ye alone and 3 other people were with him.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2022 03:11 PM (RFZrT)

11 Watched this live last night and I could see this coming. But the big thing that came out was "West confirmed that Trump did not know Fuentes." This was brought out by Milo though and I wonder if Milo is still secretly pro-Trump and 4d-chessed this in order to absolve Trump from the Kanye/Nick dinner.

Posted by: redchief at November 29, 2022 03:11 PM (rJJfx)

12 Fuck Pence.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 03:12 PM (ekL79)

13 yet he hates the Jewish people.

Jesus was Jewish.

I just don't get it.

Then again, Kanye has some serious issues.
Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:10 PM (/hCMk)

Not hating Jewish people, but those in power positions ain't representing too well.

Posted by: golfman at November 29, 2022 03:12 PM (BLVc0)

14 Isn't Nick Fuentes from The Simpsons?

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 03:12 PM (eGTCV)

15 A lot of people are trying very, very hard to make this a story.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2022 03:13 PM (lTGtQ)

16 Ever notice how Mitt Romney never misses an opportunity to shut the fuck up?

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 29, 2022 03:13 PM (TU8Tj)

17 I guess Pence isn't going to stop talking until his campaign for the GOP presidential nomination is completely wrecked.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2022 03:13 PM (guGkK)

18 Abraham Accords/Go Fuck Yourselves

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 03:14 PM (IlL6s)

19 "They" are running much of the world (at least The West) .. but "they" are the globalists, which is largely non-Jewish. But no one group/religion is above being part of the globalist crime families.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 29, 2022 03:14 PM (Cus5s)

20 Isn't Nick Fuentes from The Simpsons?
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 03:12 PM (eGTCV)

That 's Dr. Nick Riviera.

Posted by: Robert - Metallica, 72 Seasons, out 4/14 at November 29, 2022 03:14 PM (1hpTD)

21 Ye will lose little or no support among urban blacks.

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at November 29, 2022 03:14 PM (QY+6a)

22 West and Fuentes are some of the reasons why I own guns.

The dirty little secret among many assimilated. progressive Jews is the rampant anti-Semitism in some of black America. They won't admit it because they would lose progressive street cred.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 03:14 PM (XIJ/X)

23 GOP Sen. Thune
........

Mitch's bottom?

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:14 PM (v0R5T)

24 Why does Trump need to explain himself? His supporters never demand it.

It's not even ideological anymore, Trumpism is a cult of personality.

Whatever Trump says is now "true conservatism".

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (dpIbY)

25 Also...

Joel Pollak @joelpollak
Fascinating from @Timcast:

-@Ye says dinner with @realDonaldTrump was scheduled before "death con" tweet, postponed after midterms
-@Ye says Milo reached out to him after the tweet
-Milo says he brought Fuentes into the conversation
-@Ye confirms Trump had no idea who Fuentes is

https://twitter.com/joelpollak/status/
1597396563609149440

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (Vwz3I)

26 I thought I read that Trump said he agreed to meet Ye alone and 3 other people were with him.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

"Hi, Nice to meet you. Tom here will take you on a tour of Mar A Lago while Kanye and I have a private talk."

Your House. Your Rules.

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (Z32m1)

27 Assholes. The lot of them.

Trump didn't know who the guy was. He had a meeting set with a 'friend,' Kanye. They have a short history. Kanye brought those to fuckers along without Trump's knowledge or pre-approval. They've both said as such.

Those that are stabbing him or shitting on him for it are being dicks. Sorry, but you know Trump. He's not going to send Kanye away. He's just not.

The MEDIA is driving this because IT HELPS THEIR NARRATIVE. It was a nothing meeting that accomplished absolutely nothing.

Geez louise.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

28 Anyone who says that Donald Trump is anti-Semitic is literally brain damaged.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (yQpMk)

29 >>> A lot of people are trying very, very hard to make this a story.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

don't worry, it's totally not a story

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (C1Zwz)

30 Eh, the cowards in Washington will use anything to tar Trump. He could have met with Kermit the Frog and they would have said it was an affront to the frog tranny movement or something.

And Captain Obsequious Ass Pence should STFU and never speak again. He's Jeb!, only more flaccid.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (82U+n)

31 Not bad advice for DJT, Ace.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (eoQWY)

32 I just assumed "they" was Sasquatch.

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (t4fCu)

33 Project Veritas does ambush journalism. O'keefe has some scalps on his teepee. If you're a politician you have to have your shields up.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:16 PM (n8jTi)

34 Kanye says he's a Christian, yet he hates the Jewish people.

Jesus was Jewish.

I just don't get it.

Two millennia say that anti-Semites never had a problem with Joo-hate and Jesus being a Jew.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2022 03:16 PM (guGkK)

35 The dirty little secret among many assimilated. progressive Jews is the rampant anti-Semitism in some of black America. They won't admit it because they would lose progressive street cred.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
___

Unfortunately, this is true.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:16 PM (/hCMk)

36 Nick Fuentes was right there to back his employer and insist that it was all "Them's" fault.

WHITE SUPREMACIST Nick Fuentes?
Working for a Black Man?

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:16 PM (Z32m1)

37 Anyone who says that Donald Trump is anti-Semitic is literally brain damaged.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 03:15 PM (yQpMk)

For a rabid jew-hater, Donald Trump is really bad at it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 03:16 PM (XIJ/X)

38 Mitch's bottom?
Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:14 PM (v0R5T)

And Thom is second.

While NipSip is collecting and archiving the trash.

Posted by: golfman at November 29, 2022 03:17 PM (BLVc0)

39 Kanye West hates Jewish people.

I don't know if that is the case. After all, at least *some* of his wealth is due to Jews buying a little of his everything he produces.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:17 PM (dCxaZ)

40 If you have to explain in the face of a media -fueled propaganda attack, you've lost. Of course he shouldn't have gotten involved with the rapper guy. The guy reeks of chaos.

But, if you give into the terroristic denounce-or-else game, you've allowed people who want to kill you to win a coup and you've lost rank. Trump is going to be the author of his own irrelevance because of strengths that are weaknesses if unchanneled.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 29, 2022 03:17 PM (IyrhE)

41 I'll re-up: as long as Al Sharpton appears unmolested, nay, celebrated, on corporate media and at leftwing functions, I don't give a single fuck. Not even a little one. Trump didn't engineer the murder of a Jewish dude. Sharpton did.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 03:18 PM (kJLpK)

42
For a rabid jew-hater, Donald Trump is really bad at it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 03:16 PM (XIJ/X)

Why this whole thing blowing up how it is is ridiculous.

The left wing media wins. Every time. This is another example.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:18 PM (Zz0t1)

43 New "The Current Thing" is dropping.

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:18 PM (786Ro)

44 Trump can put up his pro-Jewish bona fides against Pence's any day of the week. What has Pence ever done for Jews or Israel?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2022 03:18 PM (guGkK)

45 Jesus mentions "those who say they are Jews, but are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" in Revelation 2 and maybe 3...don't have my Bible handy....

So....perhaps the people who ARE controlling the media, entertainment, corporations, are CALLING themselves Jews....but they aren't.

Perhaps that's the deception that turns the world against the Jews to destroy them in Israel... hence the battle at Har-Megdon.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at November 29, 2022 03:18 PM (sI15f)

46 A tweet from the Nuuuuuge!
https://tinyurl.com/24kuanna

And a great reply:
https://tinyurl.com/597t6aea

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:18 PM (Vwz3I)

47 What I'm saying is that there are probably details that would be helpful to Trump, which he should share, and not just in some blustery off-the-cuff "Truth" on Truth Social. Like, take it seriously, write out your thoughts (or have someone write them out after you narrate them), and deliver prepared remarks.

Posted by: Ace at 03:08 PM

Letting it blow over with the general public might be sensible.

Trump had dinner with Kanye and who? is likely the default understanding and reaction. Drawing more attention to it outside of very politically active circles could very well be net negative. The highly politically aware will hear a Trump explanation delivered more narrowly.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:18 PM (eYoxG)

48 36 Nick Fuentes was right there to back his employer and insist that it was all "Them's" fault.

WHITE SUPREMACIST Nick Fuentes?
Working for a Black Man?
Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:16 PM (Z32m1)
----
More like "HATER OF JEWS" Nick Fuentes.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 29, 2022 03:18 PM (F5ekr)

49 How many of these "oopsies" does Trump get before people either come to the conclusion he's either:

A) terribly naive/stupid, therefore unfit for office
B) does want to "wink" an these people

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (dpIbY)

50 I assume that everyone who finds Trump's dinner a problem never associates in any way with people with whom they disagree.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (wmDcS)

51 Ye Ye Ye Ye
Ye Ye Ye Ye
Hey hey
Goodbye

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (FVME7)

52 Pence said that Trump should apologize for the dinner.

No, Trump should apologize for inflicting YOU upon the body politic.

And then YOU, Pence, should go get yourself a bag of dicks, stuff them in your mouth, and choke on them.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (dCxaZ)

53 I have never understood anti-Semitism. Other "isms" I oppose I can at least comprehend intellectually, but hating the Jews has never made any sense to me. Not saying that makes me a superior person, I just don't get it.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (bhRsz)

54 Ace is a lazy Ace when he posts about people who are irrelevant.

Ace becomes "celebrity Adjacent" and maybe gets Adidas-Ye branded Croks

Fine.

Be better, Ace

Posted by: Miklos, Fact-Checked Commenter at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (NOVDU)

55 I know who Kanye West is.

I just don't know why I know who he is.

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (t4fCu)

56 So. It appears I was right in the one issue on which I ever agreed with the JEF: Kanye West is, in fact, a jackass.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (OUMaO)

57 Probably the only thing more distasteful then Trump's dinner is having to listen to all those sanctimonious Republicans who haven't accomplished half of what Trump did in four years over the course of their combined 10,000 years.

Provide a public statement to clarify what happened? Sure. But at the end should be a big fuck you to all the Republicans who piled on out of context.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (82U+n)

58 Ace, You still have one foot in 2003. Stop the Zio-worship. It is entirely unrequited love.

Posted by: Wackadoo at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (wgi9h)

59 Perhaps (I doubt it) this will break Trump of his moth to a flame habit with celebrities. Oz wasn't a good choice. Walke, while better than Warnock, is not a great candidate. Yet, Trump is drawn to celebrities.

Then I after this if he could stop listening to his kids.....

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (8aKLl)

60 Weird seeing “free thinkers” to bash and recognize the media bias every day only to pile on whenever their MSM puppet masters tell them to dance. Every criminal imaginable was invited to the Whitehouse at some point but apparently to feel accepted sometimes we echo their narrative.

Posted by: Shane at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (+sZTE)

61 Rmoney is still a threat. They kept loser McConnell going didn't they?Rmoney wants another go at it. That's the only reason we heard him chime in.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (n8jTi)

62 Yet another coordinated GOPe strike against Trump. Yawn.

The Rich Lowrys of the world are OUTRAGED!

Don't be a Rich Lowry.

Posted by: tsj017 at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (YcOm1)

63 Jesus mentions "those who say they are Jews, but are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" in Revelation 2 and maybe 3...don't have my Bible handy....

So....perhaps the people who ARE controlling the media, entertainment, corporations, are CALLING themselves Jews....but they aren't.

People like Soros and Zuckerberg are Jewish in the same way that Ace is a master carpenter: not at all. They worship Marx and Satan.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (ZGrMX)

64 Two millennia say that anti-Semites never had a problem with Joo-hate and Jesus being a Jew.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2022 03:16 PM (guGkK)

I think most on this blog would agree that Christians are really not a large part of the antisemitism that you see on the world stage today. That resides with another religious following. And progressive atheists.

Posted by: Boswell at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (+Cgut)

65 I assume that everyone who finds Trump's dinner a problem never associates in any way with people with whom they disagree.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
___

I have to say, it's been a while since I had dinner with someone who openly denies the Holocaust

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (dpIbY)

66 Kanye must have meant THE BURGER PEOPLE of Web of Fries infamy.

https://tinyurl.com/3a59xpyx

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by influenza and Tylenol at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (9bmgc)

67 I know who Kanye West is.

I've heard of him, but I wouldn't recognize him in the street.

He's no Ice-T.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

68 I don't know if that is the case. After all, at least *some* of his wealth is due to Jews buying a little of his everything he produces.
Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:17 PM (dCxaZ)

For years Shicklgruber relied on purchases of his "art" by a Jewish agent in Vienna to keep him fed and clothed and that didn't stop him from murdering Jews when he got the opportunity.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (guGkK)

69 Letting it blow over with the general public might be sensible.

Correct. As dumb as I think it was for Trump to put himself in this situation, explaining is a terrible idea. Starving this fire of additional fuel is the right strategy.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (ppBhU)

70 61 Rmoney is still a threat. They kept loser McConnell going didn't they?Rmoney wants another go at it. That's the only reason we heard him chime in.
Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (n8jTi)

==========

So...you think Mitch would have a chance in a GOP primary for president? The least popular politician in America?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

71 Kanye is a bi-polar lunatic. Always has been. Those type of people will always pick a target to obsess with either as their savior or their tormentor.

Wasn't that long ago that Kanye was a born again Christian type and went overboard with this 'conversion' . I knew it would be short lived and he would find something else to obsess about.

Posted by: polynikes at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (JZ+w7)

72 I don't know who Nick Fuentes is or why I should care, but I know who Kanye and Milo and Tim are and I saw that episode.

Everyone in that room was a flaming narcissist and you can't have more than one in the same space, kind of like magnets of the same polarity. They'll just repel each other.

What strikes me is that Kanye is susceptible to being used. 100% this is Milo's show and Milo's need to be relevant again. Whoever this Fuentes jerkoff is just seemed like window dressing.

Posted by: Random Internet Asshole at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (8LP6B)

73 Ever notice how Mitt Romney never misses an opportunity to shut the fuck up?
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 29, 2022 03:13 PM (TU8Tj)
........

He needs more stringy gray streaks in his hair like Gavin.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (v0R5T)

74 Poor judgment: Trump having Ye for dinner.

Worse judgment: Trump agreeing to hang out with NY Times reporter Maggie

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (786Ro)

75 Trump said Ye was a very disturbed person after this dinner. Not far enough. But thank you for posting this, as it just isn’t helpful to add real garbage when there is already so much made up. It wasn’t a good look. Period. People have told me how terrible I am for this stance. It is what it is.

Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (ZdaMQ)

76 I know who Kanye West is.

I just don't know why I know who he is.
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (t4fCu)
----------
He's a gay fish.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (AuTCi)

77 People always show up with uninvited guests. But I always try to find out who they are. In this case, If I found out who Fuentes was, I would have drowned him in the French Onion Soup.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (82U+n)

78 Wait a second, Milo is Jewish right? So a white supremacist, a jew, and their black anti-semitic employer walk into Mar-A-Lago...

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (eYoxG)

79
I've heard of him, but I wouldn't recognize him in the street.

He's no Ice-T.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

I think I would recognize him on the street. His 'music' on the other hand.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

80 West and Fuentes are some of the reasons why I own guns.

The dirty little secret among many assimilated. progressive Jews is the rampant anti-Semitism in some of black America. They won't admit it because they would lose progressive street cred.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Exhibit A: Al "Freddie's Fashion Mart" Sharpton
Exhibit B: Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (Z32m1)

81 The op continues. And this is an op, make no mistake. First, let me get this out of the way: if I was Trump, I would not have done this dinner. I do think it was a mistake.

But I also understand how/why it happened. Trump was friends with Kanye, and with the help of Kim K, got some prison reform passed. Trump was just trying to help Kanye out here. That's all it was. A fucking dinner.

The idea that Trump is anti-semitic is literally cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs. Trump may be a lot of things, but anti-semitic ain't one.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (iFTx/)

82 ? So now its news that Kanye is crazy? We know this. He's famously crazy. He was famously crazy 6 years ago as well. Trump thought he could talk him down, he has in the past. Didn't work. Its. Over. Move corporate shills. Move. On.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (mD6kb)

83 52 Pence said that Trump should apologize for the dinner.

No, Trump should apologize for inflicting YOU upon the body politic.

And then YOU, Pence, should go get yourself a bag of dicks, stuff them in your mouth, and choke on them.
Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (dCxaZ)

Truer words. Trump made some horrible personnel decisions, but Pence looms large as the worst.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (kJLpK)

84 GOP Sen. Thune on Trump - Fuentes dinner:

"That's just a bad idea on every level. I don't know who was advising him on his staff but I hope that whoever that person was got fired"
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The virtue must be signaled.

You can't stop the Virtue Signal, Mal!

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (krQz2)

85 Here's how Trump keeps getting away with these things. His enemies are also repulsive, just in different ways.

Too many people think if they don't choose Tump, it must mean they choose McConnell/Romney.

My answer is "none of the above"

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (dpIbY)

86 Trump met with some controversial dorks that have some of the sorts of dumb ideas that people tend to have when they've led pampered insulated lives.

But I have to engage in some "whatabout'ism" because what about the leftist ruling class which holds meetings and attends conferences with absolutely terrible no good bad people and nobody cares or in most cases even knows about it because the media will erase all instances of recordings and just play dumb when asked about it.

But I do not care about this. Trump is simultaneously screamed at by some as being a secret jew spy controlled by the mossad through Jared while he's simultaneously being screamed at by the ADL as being a secret hitler. It's all part the old clinton scheme of stray lightning where you just keep throwing out a barrage of stuff to assist your media pals from never having to focus on anything important. Stray lightning works well against trump is the only part of this that bothers me.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (cqFb3)

87 It's interesting how this dynamic can play out. I had a new boss offer to buy my crew lunch at the local deli. We sat down, and the general manager announces that he has two gay sons just as we were biting into our subs. As you can imagine the thought and visual of two men(boys?) getting ass-fucked didn't sit well with the crew.

It was then we knew this man was a lunatic, and it was no reflection on us.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (geVLo)

88 Kanye has had some legitimate evil forces working against him. That Canadian intelligence guy that was Kanye's trainer is legitimately scary. He was drugging and threatening Kanye with some serious, life altering things.
Kanye also got de-banked by Chase.

It's understandable that he would look around for an easy to conceptualize explanation.

That said, it's not "The Jews."

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (j2Xg6)

89 Poor judgment: Trump having Ye for dinner.

Worse judgment: Trump agreeing to hang out with NY Times reporter Maggie

There are a *lot* of people in Trump's orbit who have warned him about Maggie Haggerman or whatever her name is, but he thinks she's her friend even a dozen-odd hit pieces later.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (ZGrMX)

90 I wonder if there are any Jews in Mitch's private club??

@Breaking911 · 26m
MCCONNELL: "There is no room in the Republican Party for anti-Semitism or white supremacy. And anyone meeting with people advocating that point of view — in my judgment — are highly unlikely to ever be elected President of the United States.”

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (Vwz3I)

91 I just don't know why I know who he is.
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:19 PM (t4fCu)
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He's a gay fish.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (AuTCi)

Never not funny.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)

92 Worse judgment: Trump agreeing to hang out with NY Times reporter Maggie
Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (786Ro)

Worst...

Not telling her his media is taping the whole interview.

Posted by: golfman at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (BLVc0)

93 I thought I read that Trump said he agreed to meet Ye alone and 3 other people were with him.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2022 03:11 PM (RFZrT)

That was my understanding as well, based on what Trump said in his post.

I don't think Trump did anything morally wrong here; BUT, he really does need to be more careful about who he meets with. He can have dinner with Kanye if he wants, but it would just be more prudent in every way for him to keep in mind that Kanye is an unstable person, and to make sure that they've both agreed it's to be a one-on-one meeting, not Kanye plus his entourage. There's no downside to doing some vetting beforehand.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (bhRsz)

94 Truer words. Trump made some horrible personnel decisions, but Pence looms large as the worst.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (kJLpK)

Did Trump make that decision or did the RNC?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at November 29, 2022 03:24 PM (sI15f)

95 Oh, and fuck Milo Y for leeching onto and using a mega rich moron for his little personal vendettas.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 03:24 PM (j2Xg6)

96 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (guGkK)

well that escalated quickly!

It's quite a leap from Kanye expressing his "cause du jour" (evangelical Christian yesterday, Black Hebrew Israelites today) to actually murdering pyrsyns, as in depriving them of their ability to breathe and stay alive in this world.

It took decades for Schikelgruber to amass and organize the apparatus to execute the Final Solution.
wtf does Kanye have?

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:24 PM (dCxaZ)

97 So if Trump has dinner with that nuclear waste Sam thing and it brings some uninvited dawg friends on leashes the Presstitutes are going to be fine with that.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:24 PM (n8jTi)

98 >>> Kanye has had some legitimate evil forces working against him. That Canadian intelligence guy that was Kanye's trainer is legitimately scary. He was drugging and threatening Kanye with some serious, life altering things.
Kanye also got de-banked by Chase.
It's understandable that he would look around for an easy to conceptualize explanation.

right... all a logical take. but then he started with the jew stuff before the debanking, didn't he? Makes sense but I don't think the timing works.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (C1Zwz)

99 21 he already has.

Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (ZdaMQ)

100 88 Kanye has had some legitimate evil forces working against him. That Canadian intelligence guy that was Kanye's trainer is legitimately scary. He was drugging and threatening Kanye with some serious, life altering things.
Kanye also got de-banked by Chase.

It's understandable that he would look around for an easy to conceptualize explanation.

That said, it's not "The Jews."
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (j2Xg6)

Well whatever has been going on in his life, and it seems like a lot, he seems kind of unstable these days. Although I guess that's not really unusual for celebs.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (eYoxG)

101
I dunno. I quoted that thing Trump said yesterday - he made a brief statement saying that he didn't know one of the guys, and that he had Kanye over to dissuade him from running for President because he can't win, and that the media was making a mountain from a molehill. I was told I was making that whole thing up, so maybe it's not an accurate quote, but I think it is.

So, if Trump says that, and it's rejected out-of-hand as being made up "fake news," what explanation could he give that wouldn't be?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (oINRc)

102 This is all about me, isn't it

Posted by: Flaming narcissist at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (NOVDU)

103 I'm willing to call out West and Fuentes for what they have said.

However, it's not a grave enough sin to question anybody who had dinner with them.

If the Demedia cared enough about anti-Semitic statements they would have censured Omar straight out. They didn't, and I'm sure they don't avoid eating with her.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (krQz2)

104 {i]Ever notice how Mitt Romney never misses an opportunity to shut the fuck up?
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 29, 2022 03:13 PM (TU8Tj)
........

He needs more stringy gray streaks in his hair like Gavin.
Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (v0R5T)

Willard was trying the 3-day stubble look the other day. Willard looks exactly like how I imagine a Bain Investments Exec coming off a coke fueled 3 day hookers and blow bender would look like.

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (Z32m1)

105 This won't hurt Trump in the slightest but again, why couldn't he just say that he'll meet with Kanye, one-on-one, no entourage. Show up with people, they get left outside.

Pretty amazing that Kanye is (or was) a billionaire and his support group is this Fuentes dude and Milo. Guy has no one in his life who cares for him? Sad.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (KbCG3)

106 #90 Mitch update...

@disclosetv · 4h
NOW - McCarthy and McConnell are meeting with Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and others at the White House.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (Vwz3I)

107 I like what Dave Chapelle had to say about Hollywood and Jews: he isn't some conspiracy theorist but he's right, there's a LOT of Jews in Hollywood in positions of power.

Does that mean Kanye is right about the Jews? LOL no. But its not exactly crazy to say they can ruin someone if they want to, and you have to understand and work with that.

You can make cracks about pretty much any other religion that get you ruined if you say them about Jews. Not because of some conspiracy, but because the world is still, reasonably so, very touchy on the issue for Holocaust reasons, and because Jews are very often in positions to make people suffer for being jerks.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (cP/Ah)

108 Trump's not perfect! Burn him!

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (BdMk6)

109 Has the Asshole Republican Party commented on Democrats of all stripes meeting with Farrakhan etc? Praising Robert Byrd and Margaret Sanger?

Nah bro? Or "of course fucking not bro"? That's not who they are. Lowlife fag commie scum.

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (Wqtnu)

110 101 So, if Trump says that, and it's rejected out-of-hand as being made up "fake news," what explanation could he give that wouldn't be?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (oINRc)

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Star Trek fan video? Ye was supposed to play Worf.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (LvTSG)

111 @49 Hylian-I'll give Trump as many oopsies as the GOP establishment got oopses in fucking conservatives over for the last 45 years. So Trump will be afforded a metric fuckton of oopses from me. As I pointed out above Abraham Accords.

Trump doesn't have to explain shit and it has fuck all to do with your idiotic default Cult Of Personality bullshit. If your that f'ing stupid that as a "voter" to think Trump is anti-semitic at this point please do not vote or breed.

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (IlL6s)

112 So...you think Mitch would have a chance in a GOP primary for president? The least popular politician in America?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

McConnell does not even do campaign appearances because he is so toxic. But according to NR, WSJ, the GOP and the rest of Con, Inc., Mitch is the Most Important Republican Evah.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (kJLpK)

113 That said, it's not "The Jews."
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (j2Xg6)
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Bad weather, on the other hand...

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (krQz2)

114
@Breaking911 · 26m
MCCONNELL: "There is no room in the Republican Party for anti-Semitism or white supremacy. And anyone meeting with people advocating that point of view — in my judgment — are highly unlikely to ever be elected President of the United States.”
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (Vwz3I)

And there you go.

He didn't say such things about anyone that's met with Farrakhan or any other of the anti-Semites in the black community. But TRUMP?!?! BURN THE HERITIC!!!!

Nicely done. The leftist media wins again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)

115 I assume that everyone who finds Trump's dinner a problem never associates in any way with people with whom they disagree.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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I have to say, it's been a while since I had dinner with someone who openly denies the Holocaust
Posted by: Hylian
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So you haven't been out to dinner with lower socio economic class african americans? Cause its not hard to find that opinion, at least holocaust diminishers, in that demo. Not shocked by the admission tho, to be honest.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (mCJB5)

116 the Black Israelite movement is to today what Nation of Islam was in the 1980s - 1990s, so be prepared to hear a LOT more of this "theology".

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (dCxaZ)

117 Nice of Pence to defend him.
He essentially said:

Well, if he does hate Jews, I didn't know or I wouldn't have worked with him.

a--hole

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (T6W8V)

118 106 #90 Mitch update...

@disclosetv · 4h
NOW - McCarthy and McConnell are meeting with Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and others at the White House.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (Vwz3I)

========

Wait until Mitch hears what Biden has said about black people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (LvTSG)

119 Sigh. Looking more and more like we're gonna get Nikki Haley / Larry Hogan 2024, isn't it?

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (786Ro)

120 >>>Wait a second, Milo is Jewish right?

no. Milo played that card but it's not true. It's something like his grandfather was Jewish or something. He wasn't raised Jewish. He was Catholic I think.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (C1Zwz)

121 #90 Mitch update...

@disclosetv · 4h
NOW - McCarthy and McConnell are meeting with Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and others at the White House.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (Vwz3I)

Curse the sudden but inevitable betrayal.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (yQpMk)

122 I get why Kanye thinks The Tribe is responsible for his woes even if I don't agree. Saying antisemitic things will get you canceled very, very quickly. You can say the same things about whites and not even get scratched, and one of our two political parties does so often. But say the same things about Jewish folks and there will be real trouble.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (ppBhU)

123 @disclosetv · 4h
NOW - McCarthy and McConnell are meeting with Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and others at the White House.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (Vwz3I)

But TRUMP MET WITH KANYE!!!!!!!

That's MUCH more important.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)

124 >>> He then claimed that "Jewish people allowed" then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) to meet with the racist and antisemitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan in 2005.

>>> The dirty little secret among many assimilated. progressive Jews is the rampant anti-Semitism in some of black America. They won't admit it because they would lose progressive street cred.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 03:14 PM (XIJ/X)

The left has coddled and sheltered antisemitism in its ranks for AGES. Suddenly squealing when they see a possible glimmer of it on the 'right' (and Kanye isn't on the right) is laughable. But they are trying.

When the left finally cancels Jesse Jackson for his hymietown remarks, and the Squad members for their antisemitism, and Louis Farrakhan, and the ADL finally comes out against the rampant antisemitism on university campuses, I will maybe believe they are serious.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (Pdtmp)

125 Hylian-I'll give Trump as many oopsies as the GOP establishment got oopses in fucking conservatives over for the last 45 years. So Trump will be afforded a metric fuckton of oopses from me. As I pointed out above Abraham Accords.

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (IlL6s)
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Well said.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (krQz2)

126 lol JROD

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (/hCMk)

127 I have to say, it's been a while since I had dinner with someone who openly denies the Holocaust
Posted by: Hylian

there was one at our Thanksgiving dinner. I've known this guy for a long time, and have countered every stupid factoid he presents. He doesn't bring it up with me anymore.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:28 PM (dCxaZ)

128 Every single time the left demands a Republican denounce a fellow Republican they do it. Oddly, the left is rarely if ever asked to condemn one of their own and if they are they just ignore the demand and move on.

Republicans would do well to grow a spine and tell the questioner to get bent.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)

129 105 This won't hurt Trump in the slightest but again, why couldn't he just say that he'll meet with Kanye, one-on-one, no entourage. Show up with people, they get left outside.

Pretty amazing that Kanye is (or was) a billionaire and his support group is this Fuentes dude and Milo. Guy has no one in his life who cares for him? Sad.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (KbCG3)

These people often have entourages. No entourage probably didn't seem like a normal or necessary request.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:28 PM (eYoxG)

130 Trump is a criminal and his breath stinks too!!!!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at November 29, 2022 03:28 PM (Htl4B)

131 This was a staged op, much like January 6.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2022 03:28 PM (lTGtQ)

132 Oh, it's going to hurt Trump because the leftist media will bring it up ad nauseum as soon as the campaign begins. As Ace said, he could put it to bed with a very public statement condemning the entire affair. But he won't because he's lazy. He'll save it for a rally.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 03:28 PM (82U+n)

133 Willard was trying the 3-day stubble look the other day. Willard looks exactly like how I imagine a Bain Investments Exec coming off a coke fueled 3 day hookers and blow bender would look like.
Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (Z32m1)

Yeah, I'm around.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at November 29, 2022 03:28 PM (bhRsz)

134 The guy that brokered the Abraham Accords is an anti-semite - got it. That this idiocy is given any credence at all shows much power the media still has.

Posted by: Halfhand at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (Wfr2N)

135 Obama brought that racist Chewbacca character to a lot of his dinners and the press was never critical. What gives?

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (n8jTi)

136 Why are issues like this so hard for Trump to swat down?

Like when Trump was asked to denounce David Duke after Duke endorsed him, and for some reason, couldn't. Said he didn't know anything about it, blamed his ear piece, etc. Even Rush Limbaugh said it was odd. But this nonsense just keeps happening, and our side keeps looking the other way.

Fine, Trump is 100% pure on the issue of racism and anti-semitism, can we at least say it's politically stupid the way he handles it?

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (dpIbY)

137 GOP Sen. Thune on Trump - Fuentes dinner:

"That's just a bad idea on every level. I don't know who was advising him on his staff but I hope that whoever that person was got fired"
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The virtue must be signaled.

You can't stop the Virtue Signal, Mal!
Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:23 PM (krQz2)

That was Tim's angle from the start - gotta let everyone know how much I disapprove of the guest I begged to get on my show.

Tim: "Ye, you're running for president - you'd do really well with the black vote"

Also Tim: "We don't make generalizations about people based on race!"

Posted by: Random Internet Asshole at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (8LP6B)

138 Ace, You still have one foot in 2003. Stop the Zio-worship. It is entirely unrequited love.

The Italian restaurant chain? I guess they're a little better than Olive Garden but certainly don't rate worship. Be better, Ace.

P.S. I miss Chuy. He was a righteous vato.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (nfrXX)

139 so be prepared to hear a LOT more of this "theology".
Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (dCxaZ)

Pfft.

We were exponential.

Posted by: The Gays at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (BLVc0)

140 You can say the same things about whites and not even get scratched, and one of our two political parties does so often. But say the same things about Jewish folks and there will be real trouble.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (ppBhU)
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As Dave Chappell said on SNL, you cannot combine the words "THE" and "JEWS".

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (krQz2)

141 Hawley on Trump-Fuentes dinner:

"I suppose he can have dinner with whomever he wants to"

He then equated the situation with Rep. Ilhan Omar, saying she should be stripped of her committee assignments

Tuberville: "There's a lot of other people I would think he could have met with to help the country be stronger and go in the right direction."

This is the right response. If you have a problem with someone sitting in a building next to an anti-Semite, then what's with Omar being untouched in congress?

I'm not going to listen to your yelps about Trump if you support this brother-marrying communist lunatic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (cP/Ah)

142 It's pretty clear that Emmanuel Goldstein is behind this.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (FVME7)

143 132 Oh, it's going to hurt Trump because the leftist media will bring it up ad nauseum as soon as the campaign begins. As Ace said, he could put it to bed with a very public statement condemning the entire affair. But he won't because he's lazy. He'll save it for a rally.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 03:28 PM (82U+n)

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What universe do you live in?

Trump puts out statements to definitively end media created blow ups all the time, and the media simply ignores them. Like the whole, "He won't denounce white supremacists" thing. He denounced them a dozen times, but the media simply ignored them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (LvTSG)

144 Rick Scott: "There's no room in the Republican Party for white supremacists and antisemitism, so it's wrong."

That shiite is for the Democrat party. Totally unremarkable there.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (H8qM/)

145 I'm not seeing that any of Hunter's hookers are black so that's making me think ...he might be a racist!

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (n8jTi)

146 The idea that Trump is anti-semitic is literally cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs. Trump may be a lot of things, but anti-semitic ain't one.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (iFTx/)

Insert note about Trump's Jewish grandkids, and the level of shit he happily took for the amount of influence he gave their father in his administration here.

I'm not particularly defending that, but he idea that Trump can be painted as antisemitic to any reasonable person is silly.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (kOpft)

147
NOW - McCarthy and McConnell are meeting with Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and others at the White House.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (Vwz3I)

Oh, that's just fuckin' fantastic.

Wonder what awful thing they're all cooking up. Immigration, abortion, or guns?

Place your bets.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (oINRc)

148 142 It's pretty clear that Emmanuel Goldstein is behind this.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (FVME7)

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I hate that guy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (LvTSG)

149 I didn't even know that stiff, Thune was still alive.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (82U+n)

150 I don’t think a Trump is an antisemite. The other 3 have made it clear they are in their own words. This was bad optics. We should condemn it on both sides. It isn’t the end for Trump, but he has to be better. Unfortunately he doesn’t get the same leeway as anyone else; unfair as it is.

Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (ZdaMQ)

151 When the left finally cancels Jesse Jackson for his hymietown remarks, and the Squad members for their antisemitism

Is Jesse Jackson still around?

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (eGTCV)

152 ight... all a logical take. but then he started with the jew stuff before the debanking, didn't he? Makes sense but I don't think the timing works.
Posted by: ace
==
Do you think that pressure and its timing was just a coincidence? He's Trump adjacent and a loose cannon, of course they pressed on him knowing he'd eventually run to Trump. Then the media op is ready to go.

Duh. Just. Duh Ace. I know you are not this stupid. I know what you did.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (wjlga)

153
P.S. I miss Chuy. He was a righteous vato.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (nfrXX)

You asked for it......

https://youtu.be/1b6z4Z3vSnU?t=24

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

154 Wait a second, Milo is Jewish right? So a white supremacist, a jew, and their black anti-semitic employer walk into Mar-A-Lago...

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:22 PM (eYoxG)

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My guess is that all three are compromised by -- and now work as agents for -- the Deep State.

We've come a long way since Elvis ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (ngTlu)

155 I don't hold the Left to the same standards as I hold people who are supposed to represent me. That said not surprising Trump made decision to have dinner with Kanye and Fuentes. I doubt he knew who Fuentes was but whoever the assistant was in charge of setting up the dinner has to do better.

These own goals is what makes Trump frustrating to me as a politician. He thrives on conflict. Always has.

Posted by: polynikes at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (JZ+w7)

156 >Oh, and fuck Milo Y for leeching onto and using a mega rich moron for his little personal vendettas.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 03:24 PM (j2Xg6)

Oh yeah, he supposedly became straight and a devoted Roman Catholic recently. I don't believe it for one minute.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (dReA3)

157 > he started with the jew stuff before the debanking, didn't he? Makes sense but I don't think the timing works.

I honestly don't know the timeline.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (j2Xg6)

158 >>>Wonder what awful thing they're all cooking up. Immigration, abortion, or guns?

oh I'm pretty sure they're planning the celebration for the Gay Marriage Enforcement Act they're about to jointly pass.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (C1Zwz)

159 The good thing is, none of it matters.

The ballots will be cured and harvested to the pre-approved winner. R or D.

This is all Bread and Circuses to distract the masses.

Posted by: DaisyB at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (AbL8c)

160 Kanye West is an unstable genius. (Notice what I did there.) His introduction to Trump was courtesy Ivanka who wanted to be buds with Kanye's wife, Kim Kardashian who wanted to push her "prison reform" crap that Trump, in his desire to be seen as an anti-racist (to counter all the BS charges being made against him). Trump got played by all of them, and fell into it because it fed his ego. Now, Kanye is still a loose cannon, and was used by Fuentes to gain publicity for his worn-out alt-right "Pepe the Frog" schtick and Milo used them both to get the revenge he swore he's have on Trump. (The internet is forever.)

Posted by: Steve (retired/recovering lawyer) at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (YVQSM)

161 NOW - McCarthy and McConnell are meeting with Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and others at the White House.
Posted by: andycanuck
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lol

Unreal.

Good thing I'm no longer a voter, otherwise I'd be upset.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (/hCMk)

162 So its the weather machine, rite?

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (3FiQa)

163 136 Why are issues like this so hard for Trump to swat down?

Like when Trump was asked to denounce David Duke after Duke endorsed him, and for some reason, couldn't. Said he didn't know anything about it, blamed his ear piece, etc. Even Rush Limbaugh said it was odd. But this nonsense just keeps happening, and our side keeps looking the other way.

Fine, Trump is 100% pure on the issue of racism and anti-semitism, can we at least say it's politically stupid the way he handles it?
Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (dpIbY)

For the obvious reason it's not good politics to get trapped in the denunciation game.

To be fair, even Trump has tried "denounce to get them to go away" before, we largely just forget because he stopped doing it when they kept asking him to do the same denunciation again and again.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (eYoxG)

164 I have to say, it's been a while since I had dinner with someone who openly denies the Holocaust
Posted by: Hylian

In my life I've run in social circles that included some seriously hardcore whackadoodle lefties, including some in my own family. Proud communists are just as bad as holocaust denial. And you know what? It didn't matter, because our relationship wasn't based on politics. We had other shared interests, or family ties, and so we kept things polite and simply didn't go into those areas.

The notion that you have to excise someone out of your life because they hold a view that you believe is awful is exactly what the left wants. It creates a world where everything is politicized, and little woke commissars are lurking at every dinner table.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (wmDcS)

165 150 I don’t think a Trump is an antisemite. The other 3 have made it clear they are in their own words. This was bad optics. We should condemn it on both sides. It isn’t the end for Trump, but he has to be better. Unfortunately he doesn’t get the same leeway as anyone else; unfair as it is.
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (ZdaMQ)

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I'll demand Republicans denounce antisemitism when the DNC is forced to cut all formal and informal ties with Louis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (LvTSG)

166 Sounds completely sane...

Efrain Flores Monsanto 🚛 @realmonsanto · 11h
Kanye before leaving the live show after Tim Pool pushes back on his anti-semitism speaks on running for president even if they jail him, his bank closures and how the Canadian fitness trainer tried to MK ULTRA him with drugs: "they would have Michael Jackson'd me"

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (Vwz3I)

167 Brandon's BFF until he died was Sen. Byrd a card carrying KKK Grand Kleagal. But the press doesn't tar Brandon with the racist brush.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (n8jTi)

168 @disclosetv · 4h
NOW - McCarthy and McConnell are meeting with Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and others at the White House.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (Vwz3I)
........

here comes the CR

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (v0R5T)

169
That was Tim's angle from the start - gotta let everyone know how much I disapprove of the guest I begged to get on my show.

Tim: "Ye, you're running for president - you'd do really well with the black vote"

Also Tim: "We don't make generalizations about people based on race!"

Posted by: Random Internet Asshole at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (8LP6B)
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It's Pool's show. The whole idea is to give Pool a platform. I'm okay with that.

I actually appreciate that Pool wanted to restrict the talk to the "corporate press".

But, IMO, it's not "the Jews". And I think Soros is probably a minority member of the Big Cabal which is trying to run the world.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (krQz2)

170 98 >>> Kanye has had some legitimate evil forces working against him. That Canadian intelligence guy that was Kanye's trainer is legitimately scary. He was drugging and threatening Kanye with some serious, life altering things.
Kanye also got de-banked by Chase.
It's understandable that he would look around for an easy to conceptualize explanation.

right... all a logical take. but then he started with the jew stuff before the debanking, didn't he? Makes sense but I don't think the timing works.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (C1Zwz)
__________________________

I have two possibly explanations: One, he's just mentally ill. It's not unusual for mentally ill people to fixate on some boogeyman or another, and obsess over it. And then at some point later, find another boogeyman.

Or two, he's just trolling everyone with controversy. Controversy sells. Notice that he's not going too far in that he's not saying ANYTHING about Jews that half of black America and a quarter of all America don't already think.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (iFTx/)

171 This won't hurt Trump in the slightest but again, why couldn't he just say that he'll meet with Kanye, one-on-one, no entourage. Show up with people, they get left outside.

Pretty amazing that Kanye is (or was) a billionaire and his support group is this Fuentes dude and Milo. Guy has no one in his life who cares for him? Sad.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 29, 2022 03:26 PM (KbCG3)

===============

Have lots of people loudly and frequently call you an Anti-Semite?

Watch all your "friends" evaporate too.

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (Z32m1)

172 >>> Willard was trying the 3-day stubble look the other day. Willard looks exactly like how I imagine a Bain Investments Exec coming off a coke fueled 3 day hookers and blow bender would look like.
Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:25 PM (Z32m1)

Jack Dorsey bald with a beard was the trend-setter for that look. Rombley should go and ask him for advice.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (cqFb3)

173 It's pretty clear that Emmanuel Goldstein is behind this.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (FVME7)

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I hate that guy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood

Got to admit, he was adorable in "Webster".

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:33 PM (786Ro)

174 The louder the criminal media shrieks the more likely they're lying.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 03:33 PM (eGTCV)

175 Yeah, the anti-semite thing is always my signal to give a hard pass to whatever follows. And give a hard look at whatever came out of their mouths before.

As far as I'm concerned, I don't give any group, race, nationality, cohort carte blanche. Every word out of your mouths is going to get scrutinized and judged. And what you do is far more important than what you say. But let your mouth wander too far into crazy town, and I'm likely to write you off. Forever.

Not that I ever gave two sh*ts for what some doofus like Kanye West ever said or thought. Celebrity opinions rank just below what my dog leaves out in the yard that I have to scoop up.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at November 29, 2022 03:33 PM (96wFa)

176 >>>Do you think that pressure and its timing was just a coincidence? He's Trump adjacent and a loose cannon, of course they pressed on him knowing he'd eventually run to Trump. Then the media op is ready to go.

seriously?

is this where we are now?

BTW "Ye" and Trump both agree this dinner was scheduled a while ago, before the election, before any of the sh*tstorm about Jews.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:33 PM (C1Zwz)

177 I hereby declare my candidacy for Vice President.

I want to be in charge the purgings, While The Donald does the Presidenting.

Posted by: Trump/Miklos2024! at November 29, 2022 03:33 PM (NOVDU)

178 What universe do you live in?

Trump puts out statements to definitively end media created blow ups all the time, and the media simply ignores them. Like the whole, "He won't denounce white supremacists" thing. He denounced them a dozen times, but the media simply ignored them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (LvTSG)

BuT TruMp juST NeeDs to dENoUNCe!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:33 PM (eYoxG)

179 Trump hung out with the Clintons who are far worse and guilty of much more heinous things than holding daffy views about the Holocaust. But that's a pass now? Why?

Because we know he's not like that and has hung out with hundreds of thousands of people. Before he banned the scuzzbag from his clubs, Epstein used to attend events with Trump. Trump even borrowed his jet a couple times to get places (hint: not Pedo Isle).

Guilt by association is weak.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:33 PM (cP/Ah)

180 164 I have to say, it's been a while since I had dinner with someone who openly denies the Holocaust
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Its like denying the war of Northern Aggression.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 29, 2022 03:33 PM (3FiQa)

181 I'll demand Republicans denounce antisemitism when the DNC is forced to cut all formal and informal ties with Louis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (LvTSG)
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And Omar is made to apologize.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (krQz2)

182 "NOW - McCarthy and McConnell are meeting with Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and others at the White House. "

"Sensible, "bipartisan" agreement on an assault weapons ban, amnesty and Illinois more for Ukraine to follow.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (82U+n)

183 >>> The dirty little secret among many assimilated. progressive Jews is the rampant anti-Semitism in some of black America. They won't admit it because they would lose progressive street cred.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 03:14 PM (XIJ/X)

The left has coddled and sheltered antisemitism in its ranks for AGES. Suddenly squealing when they see a possible glimmer of it on the 'right' (and Kanye isn't on the right) is laughable. But they are trying.

When the left finally cancels Jesse Jackson for his hymietown remarks, and the Squad members for their antisemitism, and Louis Farrakhan, and the ADL finally comes out against the rampant antisemitism on university campuses, I will maybe believe they are serious.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (Pdtmp)

Yes, it isn't just blacks in the anti-semite plantation. The muslim wing is pretty rife with it, and much of the posh rich set has that built into its genes. Look how quickly NYC and state went after the synagogues during Covid.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (eoQWY)

184 I still don't understand what Ye and the others were doing in my neighborhood yesterday. They flew in and out of Frederick MD ... where is Tim Pool based?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (flINI)

185 The notion that you have to excise someone out of your life because they hold a view that you believe is awful is exactly what the left wants.
==
Spoiler, the GOPe, country club republicans, Progressives all like the idea of punishing people for wrong think. They are more alike than they are different.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (R/XSA)

186 Eh, the cowards in Washington will use anything to tar Trump. He could have met with Kermit the Frog and they would have said it was an affront to the frog tranny movement or something.

Kermit can't possibly be part of the Joooish cabal. He's always porking pig poon.

Posted by: He likes makin' bacon too much at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (yOepa)

187 This is a really tired trope that goes back decades. Pick your most likely political enemy, and search for any reason to push a story to hurt him.

There have been members of congress with dead interns. There have been members of congress with sexual harrassment charges. There have been members of congress sleeping with chinese spies. There have been multiple presidents having affairs. One president raped at least one woman.

But, having a dinner where uninvited guests show up is the big no no?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (lTGtQ)

188 Have lots of people loudly and frequently call you an Anti-Semite?

Watch all your "friends" evaporate too.
Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (Z32m1)

Ain't hurting me!!!

Posted by: Brother F*ucker at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (BLVc0)

189 That's the other issue with Trump, EVERY time he does something stupid, we have to constantly employ "whataboutism" to explain it away.

So Trump fucked a porn star while he was married and gave her hush money? Well, what about Bill Clinton's affairs!!?

So we're going to explain away Trump on this by bringing up other anti-semites in the Democrat Party like Omar?

Or we could, you know, have someone where we don't have these headaches. Maybe a billionaire could have someone on his staff do a quick Google search before he comes to their home for a public dinner while he's running for President?

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (dpIbY)

190 When the left finally cancels Jesse Jackson for his hymietown remarks, and the Squad members for their antisemitism

Is Jesse Jackson still around?

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (eGTCV)

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Bubba Clinton's full-time (and frequently overtime) Personal Spiritual Advisor.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (e3FoU)

191 Like when Trump was asked to denounce David Duke after Duke endorsed him, and for some reason, couldn't. Said he didn't know anything about it, blamed his ear piece, et
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LMAO. Why are you here peddling this? Because you actually believe it?

The earpiece and "didn't know" came on the 115th denunciation. He had denounced so many times and ways by the time CNN did that in August of 2016 (IIRC), that by then he was just tired of it and they finally had their "clip". I expect Democrat Underground to be spouting this shite, not AoS commenters.

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (NW06I)

192 I think Trump needs new friends and needs a crash course in upgrading his ability to judge a persons character, because they aint worth shit now

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (VTu1l)

193 Last I'd heard about Milo, he was calling Trump "daddy" and loved him. When did that love turn to hate? And what kind of level of hate? Ann Coulter hate, or Omarosa hate?

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (Pdtmp)

194 and that he had Kanye over to dissuade him from running for President because he can't win,
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That conversation consisted of the first half dozen silly names that Trump would call him on the campaign trail.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (kOpft)

195 P.S. I miss Chuy. He was a righteous vato.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM

Es verdad.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (a3Q+t)

196 That's why our current leadership sucks.

I would have said, "Would any of you sit down for dinner with Joe Biden? Yes? Ok, so you would have dinner with a guy that showered with his own daughter. Shut up, you hypocrites"

(ok, probably not what they should say, but close)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (fs1hN)

197 >>. They flew in and out of Frederick MD ... where is Tim Pool based?

around there, I think. In a wooded area of MD.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (C1Zwz)

198 I didn't even know that stiff, Thune was still alive.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (82U+n)
.........

He's like a newborn compared to most of those coots.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (v0R5T)

199 Wonder what awful thing they're all cooking up. Immigration, abortion, or guns?

Meth. Definitely cooking up some meth.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (H8qM/)

200 >>I don't hold the Left to the same standards as I hold people who are supposed to represent me.

And that's a big reason we lose. Our side is supposed to be almost angelic and even defend against blatant lies while the left has literal anti-semites in the leadership of their party and they don't give a damn.

It's moronic to claim Trump is anti-semiitc and take the left's bait. Trump did absolutely nothing wrong, put out a statement a while ago about the truth of the meeting and that's it. Move on. The proper to the question is "Get bent".

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (ZLI7S)

201 I can see wheeling and dealing trying to derail the rail unions strikes.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (HDU5E)

202 Wonder what awful thing they're all cooking up. Immigration, abortion, or guns?

Place your bets.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (oINRc)

"(A)nd."

I'm certain there's also a $569 billion "Ukraine" aid package in the mix.

Speaking of: has anyone asked Mitch to denounce his patrons in the CCP yet?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (kJLpK)

203 Headline; Trump Apologizes And Explains Why He Took A Dinner Meeting With Kanye

Next days headline; Proof Trump Is A White-Nationalist In Rebuking Meeting With Black Man Kanye West and Latinx Nick Fuentes.

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (IlL6s)

204 "Sensible, "bipartisan" agreement on an assault weapons ban, amnesty and Illinois more for Ukraine to follow.

We're going to give Chicago to Putin in exchange for peace in Ukraine? I'd make that deal. Better start building a wall though.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (ZGrMX)

205 "NOW - McCarthy and McConnell are meeting with Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and others at the White House. "

"Sensible, "bipartisan" agreement on an assault weapons ban, amnesty and Illinois more for Ukraine to follow.
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Naw, bicameral declaration, read from the whitehouse podium, denouncing Trump as a racist. They just worked really really hard to get it ready in 24 hours.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:36 PM (mD6kb)

206 Islham, by it's nature, is anti-Semitic, however, NO ONE in government is asked to denounce it, ever. It's WELCOMED and Biden IMPORTED it after the Afghanistan debacle.

We're just not a serious country.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:36 PM (Zz0t1)

207 I think quite a few morons here have dined with Holocaust deniers, but don't even know it, because the deniers usually don't express that view in public. They just hang out online with others who call it the "Holohoax".
When my friend told me about the "Holohoax", I was stunned. Never expected that from him, a pretty smart guy.
When I recovered my presence of mind, I said to him:
General Eisenhower had the troops fully document what they discovered at the camps, because it was his belief that "one day some son-of-a-bitch is going to claim this never happened."

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:36 PM (dCxaZ)

208 Posted by: Hylian

*******

You are a fucking idiot and a fucking liar. Go fuck your daddys dildo you stupid horse fuck of a pathetic troll

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 03:37 PM (VTu1l)

209 It's understandable that he would look around for an easy to conceptualize explanation.

I agree, and its... not exactly unheard of in the black community to identify Jews as the source of all evil in the world. Not universal but not rare, either.

I think Kanye is a guy with a high INT and a low SAN, so he wanders off to strange places regularly. And as I said, its not exactly crazy to note that you can get ruined for saying something against Jews that people shug at if you say it about Sikhs, for example.

Is he being ruined by a grand Jewish cabal? that's ridiculous. But its not inconceivable for him to perceive that he is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:37 PM (cP/Ah)

210 I'm not going to listen to your yelps about Trump if you support this brother-marrying communist lunatic.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (cP/Ah)

This is really the whole point of the brouhaha here - only conservatives and never-trumpers really get the vapors over something like this, Trump is not anti-semitic or a white southern Democrat in sheep's clothing, everyone writing about it knows that anyway - but lefties and progressives are not held to any "optics" standard like this, for a reason.

It's always "Let's us not be beastly to the left" and all...but those on the right? - hold them to their own standards! People like York, Thune, Mitch or Pence are just not credible critics of Trump and should have their faces laughed in by serious political observers.

Posted by: Boswell at November 29, 2022 03:37 PM (+Cgut)

211 The Queen, the Vatican, the Geddys, the Rothschilds, and the Colonel before he went teats up!

Posted by: Mr. McKenzie, conspiracy theorist at November 29, 2022 03:37 PM (yOepa)

212 It is impossible for Kanye to be racist - he is black. It is current leftist dogma that it is impossible for black people to be racist. All of Woke is dependent upon this article of faith.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (BJKQV)

213 Bubba Clinton's full-time (and frequently overtime) Personal Spiritual Advisor.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 03:34 PM (

Does Senile Pervert Joe have one of those?

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (eGTCV)

214 “People aren’t listening. What do you do?” asks the near-hysterical news actor, her voice inflecting upwards at the end of the question to indicate frustration.

In a sadistic and disorienting rhetorical flourish, White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator Dr. Ashish Jha, COVID Warlord Fauci’s diverse protégé, declared that the best way to “move on” from COVID-19 is actually to submit to an endless booster campaign for eternity.

https://tinyurl.com/ay33r85f

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (/hCMk)

215 Kayne could have backed off last week and possibly saved himself instead he shoveled harder.

As for the Republican? complainants the list is mostly comprised of the usual suspects.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (BJC33)

216 Trump was one of the first to allow Jews at his country club, rattling the Karens of the day, and he has Jewish grandchildren. Buffing back the accusations should be a slam dunk. Anyone who thinks he is antisemitic is an idiot. But Trump never knows how to play these things right and the media goes crazy, and that's too bad.

The news media will try to latch onto this to wound his POTUS run before it begins. But the news cycle being how it it, it will eventually blow over.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (Pdtmp)

217 134 The guy that brokered the Abraham Accords is an anti-semite - got it. That this idiocy is given any credence at all shows much power the media still has.
Posted by: Halfhand at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (Wfr2N

It also shows just how fucking gullible some people are.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (BdMk6)

218 Kanye is a bigger attention whore than his ex wife's ass.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (UOzPv)

219 We're going to give Chicago to Putin in exchange for peace in Ukraine? I'd make that deal. Better start building a wall though.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (ZGrMX)

When I lived there I found you couldn't understand Chicago as part of the USA, but as an east block nation under the USSR.

Putin would be an improvement over that for sure.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (eoQWY)

220
Does Senile Pervert Joe have one of those?
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (eGTCV)

Could it be.......mmmmmm....SATAN!!!???

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)

221 >>>Wonder what awful thing they're all cooking up. Immigration, abortion, or guns?

"Mental Health"

Posted by: So Tiresome at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (V2glL)

222 i think Ryan Long was saying that Pete Davidson is Jewish or half-Jewish or something and is banging Kim Kardashian and is known to have a big dick.

this might be weighing on Ye's mind.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (C1Zwz)

223 Last I'd heard about Milo, he was calling Trump "daddy" and loved him. When did that love turn to hate?

Milo strikes me as a shallow and flighty individual largely driven by his emotions and whatever mood he woke up with on any given morning. He's incredibly smart and fast with his thoughts but not a deep thinker and not a stable person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (cP/Ah)

224 I have two possibly explanations: One, he's just mentally ill. It's not unusual for mentally ill people to fixate on some boogeyman or another, and obsess over it. And then at some point later, find another boogeyman.

Or two, he's just trolling everyone with controversy. Controversy sells. Notice that he's not going too far in that he's not saying ANYTHING about Jews that half of black America and a quarter of all America don't already think.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (iFTx/)

Kanye is supposedly Bi-Polar, which would explain the almost regular outbursts of controversy. Quiet, then BOOM!

Watch the Dave Chapelle SNL Monologue. The first 8 minutes was a more nuanced anti-semitic diatribe masked with humor and snark. He basically said, "Ye is right."

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (Z32m1)

225 I have to say, it's been a while since I had dinner with someone who openly denies the Holocaust
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I'm more sure I don't live on a flat Earth than there was a holocaust. And I wouldn't feel that I have to correct every flat-earther.

I don't know why "Holocaust denial" can't be just a dumb opinion. But you'll notice, that the reaction against the Nazis and the post-war trials are exactly the vectors authoritarians want to use on people they want to call "Nazis" for the ability to use those punitive ends.

I'm going to end up reluctantly giving Buchanan some credit for his anti-Nuremburg sentiments. In the late 1940s the "world" decided it can punish bad actors. That power has been mostly sleeping, but the sorcerers of the world have been chanting rituals to awaken it to their ends.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (krQz2)

226 I can see wheeling and dealing trying to derail the rail unions strikes.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM

A strike might cause the economy to jump the tracks.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (a3Q+t)

227 We're just not a serious country.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck

Miklosistan is

Posted by: Miklos needs an island, maybe at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (NOVDU)

228 >>>Wonder what awful thing they're all cooking up. Immigration, abortion, or guns?

oh I'm pretty sure they're planning the celebration for the Gay Marriage Enforcement Act they're about to jointly pass.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:31 PM (C1Zwz)

Don't forget about us!

Posted by: Amnesty for Millions of Illegals at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (kts79)

229 The Public Health™ experts have been publicly floating the idea of changing the definition of “fully vaccinated” to include recent boosters for over a year now. Presumably, they have only held off because they fear doing so would garner too much public backlash.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (/hCMk)

230 212 It is impossible for Kanye to be racist - he is black. It is current leftist dogma that it is impossible for black people to be racist. All of Woke is dependent upon this article of faith.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (BJKQV)

Well Kanye doesn't hate Trump, so that means he ain't black.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (eYoxG)

231 In case you missed it, at one of the death camps our troops were so pissed they summarily executed some captured soldiers. There's pictures. Nobody did a day but feathers were ruffled. IIRC

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (n8jTi)

232 167 Brandon's BFF until he died was Sen. Byrd a card carrying KKK Grand Kleagal. But the press doesn't tar Brandon with the racist brush.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (n8jTi

And Brandon gave the eulogy at his funeral.

Posted by: E. A. Blair at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (8o7em)

233 That's the other issue with Trump, EVERY time he does something stupid, we have to constantly employ "whataboutism" to explain it away.

So Trump fucked a porn star while he was married and gave her hush money? Well, what about Bill Clinton's affairs!!?

So we're going to explain away Trump on this by bringing up other anti-semites in the Democrat Party like Omar?

Or we could, you know, have someone where we don't have these headaches. Maybe a billionaire could have someone on his staff do a quick Google search before he comes to their home for a public dinner while he's running for President?
Posted by: Hylian
=
No that false premise. There is no need to do that because this was all already baked into the cake before the election and he WON anyway. Nobody, but paid actors like you, pretend to care. Nice op you got going there be a shame if something happened to it. Like you'd have to go back to the sandwich shop.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (mD6kb)

234 When did Kanye become a political movement? He's just one person.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (lf83v)

235 Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger

I've started reading the 'Posted by' line to avoid reading the trolls drivel.

It works!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (HDU5E)

236 Jews are better than you and you better not forget it.

Posted by: ccoffer at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (xwsJj)

237 Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (ZLI7S)

You bring up a lot of strawmen but okay.

Posted by: polynikes at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (JZ+w7)

238 around there, I think. In a wooded area of MD.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (C1Zwz)

***

That confirms it for me. I've heard Knoxville MD. It is right across from Harpers Ferry WV. Interesting...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (flINI)

239 231 In case you missed it, at one of the death camps our troops were so pissed they summarily executed some captured soldiers. There's pictures. Nobody did a day but feathers were ruffled. IIRC
Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (n8jTi)

=========

This is part of the backstory of the main character in Shutter Island.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (LvTSG)

240 Mel Gibson got hit pretty hard, I think more for his anti-jewish rants and maybe some of the things his father said than any of the "but first you will blow me". This was before me-too. He seems to be slowly recovering and getting work though.

Mel seems like a humble guy when he's got his mind straight so that probably helped.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (cqFb3)

241 It's very easy to deny being racist and antisemitic. Everyone seems to know that but Trump.

Just deny it and you don't sound like a racist at all.

Doesn't Idiot Simpleton Trump know how smooth it is? The masses always are always willing to listen to logic and truth. Dumb Trump just can't get it right. It should be DeSantis or someone respectable and in control of themselves like Nikki Haley.

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (/q8yE)

242 If you vote for Trump you ain't black.

Posted by: Darth Brandon at November 29, 2022 03:41 PM (n8jTi)

243 The earpiece and "didn't know" came on the 115th denunciation. He had denounced so many times and ways by the time CNN did that in August of 2016 (IIRC), that by then he was just tired of it and they finally had their "clip". I expect Democrat Underground to be spouting this shite, not AoS commenters.
Posted by: ...
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Can you show the 114 "other" times?

Again, you're doing a television interview while you're running for President and you're just too tired?

I saw the interview, you know its bad when even Rush Limbaugh said this:

" Trump didn't want to lose voters by disavowing Duke, KKK"

This is on Rush Limbaugh's website

https://tinyurl.com/2fcf325k

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:41 PM (dpIbY)

244 I occasionally get a zinger in.

Posted by: Darth Brandon at November 29, 2022 03:41 PM (n8jTi)

245 Watch the Dave Chapelle SNL Monologue. The first 8 minutes was a more nuanced anti-semitic diatribe masked with humor and snark. He basically said, "Ye is right."
Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (Z32m1)
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Yup. I saw that.

And, to me, that represents "black culture".

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:41 PM (krQz2)

246 They flew in and out of Frederick MD ... where is Tim Pool based?

around there, I think. In a wooded area of MD.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM (C1Zwz)

Frederick is pretty open ground. Further west in the panhandle, near Cumberland is likely where Poole is. That's forested and hilly and undeveloped.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (eoQWY)

247 and a lot of the holocaust denial tropes are making their way around the interwebs, and young men are especially susceptible to it.

I talked to a young guy at my job, I had the impression that he was believing these denial tropes. He seemed to think a lot of the documentary evidence was faked. I had to remind him that CGI didn't exist in 1945. That people didn't own desktop computers that could print out tons of paper that would support the existence of the Final Solution.

That retouching and manipulating photos was a laborious and time-consuming project, it wasn't three clicks on Photoshop and you're done. I wonder if any of that stuck with him?

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (dCxaZ)

248 We're going to give Chicago to Putin in exchange for peace in Ukraine? I'd make that deal. Better start building a wall though.
Posted by: Ian S

And the Bears will still suck

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (786Ro)

249 I have never understood anti-Semitism. Other "isms" I oppose I can at least comprehend intellectually, but hating the Jews has never made any sense to me. Not saying that makes me a superior person, I just don't get it.

I used to not get it either. The basic formula in bygone times though was an often alien like in appearance community which was utilized by the ruling elite for their financial/legal/business acumen occasionally to the detriment of the majority population. The Jewish community had no choice but to comply or face persecution or expulsion. Jews in Edward I England could loan money. Catholic Christians were forbidden to do so by Papal fiat. But loans were vital to war and business. Unable to punish the ruling elite, Jews were seen as a convenient substitute.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by influenza and Tylenol at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (9bmgc)

250 Watch the Dave Chapelle SNL Monologue. The first 8 minutes was a more nuanced anti-semitic diatribe masked with humor and snark. He basically said, "Ye is right."

I took it more as a "I am not saying I agree, but I understand" kind of thing.

And anyone who cannot understand calls for the left to own up to the evils and crazy on their side before condemning someone else is unworthy of engaging with intellectually or otherwise. Calling that "whataboutism" is either deliberately ignorant or just too stupid to care about.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (cP/Ah)

251 Wonder what awful thing they're all cooking up. Immigration, abortion, or guns?

Place your bets.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (oINRc)
.........

I'm betting it's going to cost us dearly.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (v0R5T)

252 He didn't say such things about anyone that's met with Farrakhan or any other of the anti-Semites in the black community. But TRUMP?!?! BURN THE HERITIC!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)

Or for that matter the decade-long fellating of Iran, which is a country that actively, officially advocates for the genocide of the Jewish people and the destruction of the state of Israel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (XIJ/X)

253 Like when Trump was asked to denounce David Duke after Duke endorsed him, and for some reason, couldn't. Said he didn't know anything about it, blamed his ear piece, et

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If someone demanded that I denounce Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and Mao I'd tell them to get fucked. I don't accept homework assignments from some jerkoff who hates me in the first place.

Ooooooh... I'm an anti-semite? Fuck you. I didn't give a shit when you labeled me a racist. One more label is just that - one more label from people I don't respect.

Posted by: Random Internet Asshole at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (8LP6B)

254 Ye Kanye West East whatever the fuck his name is on any day of the week was getting unfairly canceled, Trump took pity on him and for this Ye West East exploited that for his own selfish purposes and then gets upset because Trump wouldnt get on board with his Jew hate and back stabs him.

Pool was right, its the corporate press and really the left that are the enemy, instead Ye Kanye whatever the fuck his name has decided only Jews are the enemy because he cant seem to get away from that unilateral antisemitic fixation

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (VTu1l)

255 Fine, Trump is 100% pure on the issue of racism and anti-semitism, can we at least say it's politically stupid the way he handles it?
Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (dpIbY)

It's a losing game to have to denounce random people constantly. The media doesn't run up to every Dem asking them to denounce Farrakhan, Sharpton, Omar because they know, even if they should be denounced, it costs votes. They do ask every Republican to denounce everyone to the right of Stalin for the same exact reason.

Posted by: Sjg at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (gDSJf)

256 >>>I'm more sure I don't live on a flat Earth than there was a holocaust. And I wouldn't feel that I have to correct every flat-earther.
I don't know why "Holocaust denial" can't be just a dumb opinion.

Because it's usually tied to the claim, "And Jews are exploiting this Phantom Non-Calamity for sympathy to aid them in hoodwinking the gentiles and controlling the world."

Denying the Holocaust is obviously intended to suggest that Jews are conning us about it. Who else could possbily have the motive to fake the Holocaust?

Come on, man. Please don't reveal yourself to be someone who is agnostic about the Holocaust or why we HAVE to believe in it.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (C1Zwz)

257 I don't know why "Holocaust denial" can't be just a dumb opinion. But you'll notice, that the reaction against the Nazis and the post-war trials are exactly the vectors authoritarians want to use on people they want to call "Nazis" for the ability to use those punitive ends.

I'm going to end up reluctantly giving Buchanan some credit for his anti-Nuremburg sentiments. In the late 1940s the "world" decided it can punish bad actors. That power has been mostly sleeping, but the sorcerers of the world have been chanting rituals to awaken it to their ends.
Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (krQz2)

Fascist was just the popular and acceptable tool for leftists to bash anyone who opposed them. Most people are not so informed of 20th century events for the Holocaust to be all that important in their thinking. It's just a name for "bad guys".

It's absurd to pretend the world has previously operated on some kind of principled jurisprudence that would prohibit the Nuremberg trials and had consequently been lost.
Frankly killing people with some sort of pro-forma excuse is the real norm.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (eYoxG)

258 Jesse Jackson has has Parkinsons and has suffered a severe mental decline. This is being hidden from public consideration, like fetal heartbeats.

Posted by: M'aiq The Liar at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (x8HKZ)

259 where is Tim Pool based?

Twitter

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (786Ro)

260 Well, what about Bill Clinton's affairs!!?

Some people did some things.
Mistakes were made.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.

Posted by: The Left at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (a3Q+t)

261 Yeah, Mike Pence telling someone ELSE they should apologize?

I have yet to hear his Apology to Gen Flynn.

So he can shut up and go away now...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (oHd/0)

262 In case you missed it, at one of the death camps our troops were so pissed they summarily executed some captured soldiers. There's pictures. Nobody did a day but feathers were ruffled. IIRC
Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (n8jTi)

=========

This is part of the backstory of the main character in Shutter Island.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (LvTSG)

They also pulled in some nearby townsfolk to give them a look. And the US didn't liberate any of the *really* bad places, those were too far east.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (eoQWY)

263 *Yawn*

Posted by: observer at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (9C3Xv)

264 Nobody cares about me and Sen. Byrd. I can have friends but he can't.

Posted by: Darth Brandon at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (n8jTi)

265 Watch the Dave Chapelle SNL Monologue. The first 8 minutes was a more nuanced anti-semitic diatribe masked with humor and snark. He basically said, "Ye is right."
==
This is not even a controversial opinion among the demographic that tends to enjoy Chapelle. But keep clutching your pearls everybody. Don't forget about he said grab em by the pussy either.

Stupid stupid ops. Run stupidly, by people who can and should do better. With actual logic and facts. But no, this is the shit we get, even here.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (59K7h)

266 I can see wheeling and dealing trying to derail the rail unions strikes.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2022 03:35 PM

A strike might cause the economy to jump the tracks.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

You think they'll force the unions to keep it rolling?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM (HDU5E)

267 You are a fucking idiot and a fucking liar. Go fuck your daddys dildo you stupid horse fuck of a pathetic troll

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 03:37 PM (VTu1l)

Why didn't I put it like this?

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM (/q8yE)

268 170 …half of black America and a quarter of all America don't already think…

Which is so disgusting, but apparently true. In my Polly Anna naive world, this isn’t okay or excused anywhere, politics aside. I am stunned.

Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM (ZdaMQ)

269 I don't think Kim Kardashian's ass is all that.

Kinda gross, really.

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM (t4fCu)

270 I'm kinda sick and tired of Trump disappearing every time something like this comes up.

Mr. Media Master has a $10 million free advertisement for 2024.
All he has to do is call a presser; sit with a reporter.

These assholes have never been able to resist the chance to attack him. He was at his best when he charged in and attacked back. Used their hate to destroy them and change the narrative to his narrative.

He's at his worse when he GOPe turtles and hides. "He fights" lol.

We'll see Trump on a golf course before we see him in front of the press ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM (KMYsd)

271 Trump said that he had a scheduled meeting with Kayne and that Kayne brought two uninvited guests.
Should he have thrown them out? Is that what the hospitality business is about?

He also mentioned, politely, that Kayne was troubled and needed help.

What more is there to say?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM (BJC33)

272 217 134 The guy that brokered the Abraham Accords is an anti-semite - got it. That this idiocy is given any credence at all shows much power the media still has.
Posted by: Halfhand at November 29, 2022 03:29 PM (Wfr2N

It also shows just how fucking gullible some people are.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 29, 2022 03:38 PM (BdMk6)

=======================

Trump would have been a lot better off if he had shown some dislike to his Orthodox Jewish son-in-law sometimes. Not for religion reasons, but for his wishy-washy go-along, get-along attitudes to his political enemies.

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 03:45 PM (Z32m1)

273
Or for that matter the decade-long fellating of Iran, which is a country that actively, officially advocates for the genocide of the Jewish people and the destruction of the state of Israel.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (XIJ/X)

Yep. We send them pallet loads of sweet, sweet American tax dollars and not one R pitched one fit about it. Why we're fucked until there's a wholesale ousting of EVERYONE on the R side in office.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)

274 It's a losing game to have to denounce random people constantly. The media doesn't run up to every Dem asking them to denounce Farrakhan, Sharpton, Omar because they know, even if they should be denounced, it costs votes. They do ask every Republican to denounce everyone to the right of Stalin for the same exact reason.
Posted by: Sjg at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (gDSJf)

Sharpton IS the media, or at least part of it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 03:45 PM (kJLpK)

275 I don't know why "Holocaust denial" can't be just a dumb opinion.

Because the union of Holocaust deniers and Jew-hating extremists is very, very high. Kind of like how people who object to the state of Israel almost always turn out to be hate-filled whackos. In the wild, one doesn't tend to encounter Holocaust deniers who are simple eccentrics.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 29, 2022 03:45 PM (ppBhU)

276 Because it's usually tied to the claim, "And Jews are exploiting this Phantom Non-Calamity for sympathy to aid them in hoodwinking the gentiles and controlling the world."

Denying the Holocaust is obviously intended to suggest that Jews are conning us about it. Who else could possbily have the motive to fake the Holocaust?

Come on, man. Please don't reveal yourself to be someone who is agnostic about the Holocaust or why we HAVE to believe in it.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (C1Zwz)

Paranoid conspiracies about white people and the "patriarchy" are both pretty commonplace in this country, especially in academia. I mean yeah, this isn't healthy, but it's not like there isn't plenty of hate floating around for lots of people.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:45 PM (eYoxG)

277 " Trump didn't want to lose voters by disavowing Duke, KKK"

This is on Rush Limbaugh's website

https://tinyurl.com/2fcf325k

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:41 PM (dpIbY)
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Duke is a "wrong-thinker". But I doubt he has ever hurt as many people as career felons that the Democrats would love to have vote for them? (For the simple-minded: No, this does not mean I am any way positively disposed toward Duke.)

When you're so hot for actual bad people to vote for you--people who have actually done grievous harm to their neighbors--you don't get to be taken seriously as a harm-stop.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (krQz2)

278 Pool was right, its the corporate press and really the left that are the enemy, instead Ye Kanye whatever the fuck his name has decided only Jews are the enemy because he cant seem to get away from that unilateral antisemitic fixation
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (VTu1l)

Yes, Pool put out a lifeline there. If West had accepted the change of subject from Jews to Corporate Media and Cancel culture, he could have kept out of crank zone.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (eoQWY)

279 oh, and of course, if the Holocaust was fake, there's no particular reason to "malign" the German officials in charge at the time, which is another huge goal of Holocaust denial -- rehabilitating the N*zi High Command.

Making the world safe for Ad&lf again.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (C1Zwz)

280 I occasionally get a zinger in MY SHORTS.
Posted by: Darth Brandon at November 29, 2022 03:41 PM (n8jTi)
........

minor addendum

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (v0R5T)

281 >>You bring up a lot of strawmen but okay.

Nonsense. Do you remember when Obama met with virulent racist and anti-semite Calypso Louie and the left demanded he apologize? Don't worry, nobody else remembers it either because no such demands were ever made of Obama.

He gave a weak sauce "denunciation" of the racist preacher whose church he attends for over a decade and that was that. Trump gives a perfect fine explanation of why he met with West and that he had no idea who was Fuentes is or that he was even coming and days later Republicans are still taking the moronic bait from the left.

The days of holding ourselves to a higher standard while the left uses those standards to beat us to death with are over. One set of rules for everyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (ZLI7S)

282 Why didn't I put it like this?

********

Probably need to have a few shots of whiskey to get the fire going

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (VTu1l)

283 Kanye is mentally ill. I don't think people should be taking anything this guy says as serious.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (M+Lyo)

284 Trump should invite Biden’s bastard grandchild over to his house on Christmas morning.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (OFYf2)

285 so that's why Holocaust Denial is not just a "dumb opinion" == it's an opinion offered by Nazis and the Nazi-curious with a specific agenda.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (C1Zwz)

286 I can't help but wonder if Pence didn't set up Gen. Flynn. It seems like a Pelosi/Hillary dirty trick.
I betcha they have teams working on scenarios.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:47 PM (n8jTi)

287 When a politico (and I include the press in this class) demands that you denounce someone, it is for the purposes of hurting you. You either obey their command, and are reported as FINALLY denouncing so and so, or you tell them to shove it, and they report it as you refusing to denounce so and so.

It is a very old, very base, and very stupid game.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2022 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)

288 Kanye has given Trump all the ammunition he needs to more than safely distance himself.

Instead, Mr. Loyal to the End of the Line of Ass-kissers will not .....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 29, 2022 03:47 PM (KMYsd)

289 Wait, there's a debate about this?

Posted by: Unsuccessful Standup Comedian at November 29, 2022 03:47 PM (0A5+1)

290 Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:41 PM (dpIbY)

Trump's nonstop denunciation of the KKK and then Duke are a matter of record. I'm not doing your fucking research for you. This battle happened here in 2016. If this place goes back there, it is finished.

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 03:47 PM (/q8yE)

291 Come on, man. Please don't reveal yourself to be someone who is agnostic about the Holocaust or why we HAVE to believe in it.
==
Why do you do this? Staw man crap. He's not saying he is doubting the holocaust any more than he is saying the MOON LANDING WAS FAKE. Which is a stupid idea, held by weak minded people. "Why do we have to take kooks seriously" is not the same as "I not sure that kook is wrong" - and he is not saying I am not sure that kook is wrong. Have you given up on reason?

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:47 PM (aQxo4)

292 The USG neglectful treatment of newly elected Benjamin Netanyahu should be of much more concern.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (BJC33)

293 I can't think of a single reason why I would be an antisemite. Not one at all.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (eGTCV)

294 I don't know why "Holocaust denial" can't be just a dumb opinion

It is a dumb opinion but because of all the freight that comes with it, its not JUST a dumb opinion. It is very important that the world sees and remember what was done and why, because we have a tendency to repeat evils that are not condemned enough. 30 years after the Berlin Wall fell, we have open communists in the federal government because we failed to do that exact thing with the reds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (cP/Ah)

295 Ha, lots of diving going on, but the ref says play on. Five minutes left.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (ufFY8)

296 >>> The notion that you have to excise someone out of your life because they hold a view that you believe is awful is exactly what the left wants. It creates a world where everything is politicized, and little woke commissars are lurking at every dinner table.

Don't turn around, oh oh oh
(Ja, ja) Der Kommissar's in town, whoa oh oh
You're in his eye and you'll know why
The more you live, the faster you will die

But seriously, good point. The right is good at overlooking dumb views people we love that are on the left have, while not declaring them evil. The left finds this impossible now.

I found out that if one of my older gay relatives, who I adore despite his leftist politics, ever finds out I voted for Trump, he will never speak to me again. He has cut out all trump-adjacent people from his life. It's so sad the world is coming to this.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (Pdtmp)

297 I don't think Kim Kardashian's ass is all that.
I don't think Kim Kardashian's ass is all that.

Kinda gross, really.
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM

A voice of sanity in an otherwise glutealized world.

Posted by: Brie Larson at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (a3Q+t)

298 West didn't say a thing that isn't common talk in the black community. Why do you think Dems don't open their shitpipes and say a word about Farrakhan? They know how highly regarded he is and how blacks, as a general matter, hate Jews. On the other hand, this rush to denounce as a trained monkey for Dems should have ended long ago.

Posted by: ejochs at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (lSFMQ)

299 I do not care who has dinner with who. Eating food in the general proximity of someone is not the same as adopting every position they ever espoused. We have to get away from the guilt by association particularly since there seems to be the time honored double standard in how close the association has to be. Obama can sit in Rev. Wright's pew for a decade but get a pass. Trump allows Fuentes to sit down and we all are suppose to have a moral panic.

It reminds me of Obama saying he would sit down with Iran or North Korea. We had to act shocked and offended that he would elevate them in that fashion to support Bush. It was stupid then, and it's stupid now. Sitting down with anyone and listening to them is not elevating them, that is not the problem, it is what you do AFTER you sit down with them that matters -- like that treacherous Iran nuclear deal. You can meet with the motherf#ckers, just don't give them the f#cking bomb.

Posted by: tommylotto at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (6QQM8)

300 Doesn't Idiot Simpleton Trump know how smooth it is? The masses always are always willing to listen to logic and truth. Dumb Trump just can't get it right. It should be DeSantis or someone respectable and in control of themselves like Nikki Haley.
Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (/q8yE)

And next up they will demand he apologize for being White.

When THEY have the ability to control your speech, you have no freedom of speech.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (oHd/0)

301 He gave a weak sauce "denunciation" of the racist preacher whose church he attends for over a decade and that was that. Trump gives a perfect fine explanation of why he met with West and that he had no idea who was Fuentes is or that he was even coming and days later Republicans are still taking the moronic bait from the left.

The days of holding ourselves to a higher standard while the left uses those standards to beat us to death with are over. One set of rules for everyone.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (ZLI7S)

Everyone bad in Owebama's life was "just a guy from my neighborhood."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

302 A point on the "Holocaust denier" Nick Fuentes. I'm not sure it's fair to call him a denier. I think "skeptic" is more accurate. The clips Ace has shown of him, and otherwise what I know of him (not much), it seems his beef isn't with the fact that the Holocaust occured, but with the state-sanctioned NUMBER of those killed. That's what I took his weird smoke-stack argument to mean.

Now, if someone can point me to where he denies anything happened at all, then I will stand corrected. But if his real beef is over the 6M reported number of those killed, then I can't say he's nuts or even unreasonable. With all the utterly fake data and outright lies over CV19 -- including fraudulent numbers of those killed by it -- I think it's a safe bet to assume governments lie and make up shit all the time.

I personally have no idea how many died. I have no way of knowing. 6M sounds reasonable to me. But if Fuentes wants to be skeptical of that number, I can't blame him.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (iFTx/)

303 I don't think Kim Kardashian's ass is all that.

Kinda gross, really.
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM (t4fCu)
.......

The transition from cottage cheese to plastic was difficult.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (v0R5T)

304 The days of holding ourselves to a higher standard while the left uses those standards to beat us to death with are over.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (ZLI7S)

Or they will be when it's precious DeSantis.

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (/q8yE)

305 It's all so tiresome. Seems more than half the world is insane.

Posted by: Infidel at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (ZEa+g)

306 285 so that's why Holocaust Denial is not just a "dumb opinion" == it's an opinion offered by Nazis and the Nazi-curious with a specific agenda.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (C1Zwz)

I think the pool of people who are Holocaust deniers or are agnostic to it vastly exceeds the pool of real dedicated Nazis. The sort of people who tend to believe this stuff tend not to be very coherent in their worldview.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (eYoxG)

307 Not even in top 300

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (xhxe8)

308 We're going to give Chicago to Putin in exchange for peace in Ukraine? I'd make that deal. Better start building a wall though.
Posted by: Ian S

And the Bears will still suck
Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:42 PM (786Ro)

They'll be able to dance though

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (eoQWY)

309 >>> I don't think Kim Kardashian's ass is all that.
Kinda gross, really.
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM (t4fCu)

I feel the same way about huge giant buts as I do monstrous hooters and inflated lips. Stop making me dislike all the wonderful natural parts of a woman. Just stop.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (cqFb3)

310 Maybe Trump was wanting to do a frame by frame review of Kanye's video starting his ex-wife's undraped bosoms.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (9eNBr)

311 I am a yuge fan of Trump but I also recognize his shortcomings, his biggest weakness to me is the inability to cull his inner circle of people that are so readily willing to stab him in the back. If he doesnt get a handle on this I cant see how he could be an effective president in a second term. I would support either him or DeSantis, but right now DeSantis has been hitting the right notes

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 03:50 PM (VTu1l)

312 As a commenter said many years ago, cmon people, those Jews aren’t going to gas themselves.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 29, 2022 03:50 PM (OFYf2)

313 Trump said that he had a scheduled meeting with Kayne and that Kayne brought two uninvited guests.
Should he have thrown them out? Is that what the hospitality business is about?

He also mentioned, politely, that Kayne was troubled and needed help.

What more is there to say?

Posted by: Braenyard
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Well, he's had no problems over the years throwing people under the bus. Saying "no" would seem easy.

You really believe a former President with Secret Service protection and his own private security compound just has unknown people "pop in"?

Why do these things always seem to happen to Trump? He's just always a victim of circumstance.

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 03:50 PM (dpIbY)

314 don't think Kim Kardashian's ass is all that.

AOC has a juicier booty.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 29, 2022 03:50 PM (ufFY8)

315 I found out that if one of my older gay relatives, who I adore despite his leftist politics, ever finds out I voted for Trump, he will never speak to me again. He has cut out all trump-adjacent people from his life. It's so sad the world is coming to this.
Posted by: LizLem
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My family despises Trump and anyone who voted for him.
Hub and I are persona non-grata.

It hurts sometimes, but mostly I'm numb to it.
What I'm having trouble with is the rage against this world.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:50 PM (/hCMk)

316 Fine, Trump is 100% pure on the issue of racism and anti-semitism, can we at least say it's politically stupid the way he handles it?
Posted by: Hylian

You're new here, aren't you? And jump in both feet.
I'm just curious... which campaign are you working for?

Posted by: MkY at November 29, 2022 03:51 PM (cPGH3)

317 >>>But seriously, good point. The right is good at overlooking dumb views people we love that are on the left have, while not declaring them evil. The left finds this impossible now.

this is a good point, up to a point: No one is required to have dinner with murderers, pedos, or N&zis.

Yes, everyone saying that the point of pushing back against woke is to stop this culture of Scientology-like disconnection. But... I mean, this is not absolute. You wouldn't break bread with a p3do and just say, "Well we have different opinions, but that doesn't mean I can't see the humanity in him."

there shouldn't be undue social pressure to #Cancel people, but we also have within us our own rules about when we just say no to some people, and there's no law that says we have to say Yes to them just to not be Woke.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:51 PM (C1Zwz)

318 Nine minutes of extra time.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 29, 2022 03:51 PM (ufFY8)

319 We all are familiar with Russian depopulation of Ukraine.

Not just almost 100 years ago but this year. Some dead, some kidnapped, some left. About 10% of the population. And the beat goes on.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:51 PM (n8jTi)

320 Jews are better than you and you better not forget it.
Posted by: ccoffer at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (xwsJj)

Well, better than you anyway.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 03:51 PM (yQpMk)

321 I don't know why "Holocaust denial" can't be just a dumb opinion.

Because the union of Holocaust deniers and Jew-hating extremists is very, very high. Kind of like how people who object to the state of Israel almost always turn out to be hate-filled whackos. In the wild, one doesn't tend to encounter Holocaust deniers who are simple eccentrics.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 29, 2022 03:45 PM (ppBhU)
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Ah, so it is anti-Semitic detection!

Not necessarily anti-Semitic itself.

So what you are admitting is that the vast amount of people are lumpers and generalize more than is necessary, we have to account for the incapacity of doing more than lumping and not even whisper acknowledgement that the "answer" is more generalizing and lumping.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (krQz2)

322 294 "I don't know why "Holocaust denial" can't be just a dumb opinion"

It is a dumb opinion but because of all the freight that comes with it, its not JUST a dumb opinion. It is very important that the world sees and remember what was done and why, because we have a tendency to repeat evils that are not condemned enough. 30 years after the Berlin Wall fell, we have open communists in the federal government because we failed to do that exact thing with the reds.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (cP/Ah)

I think it's delusional to believe we can prevent another Holocaust by trying to manage this sort of thinking. It borders on superstition and is notoriously difficult to control, the Catholic Church has centuries of experience trying to manage ideas.

Take a look at North Korean prison camps today. Pretty awful actually.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (eYoxG)

323 Alinsky's rules. Obviously the R's don't want to be associated with anti-semites and white supremacist's and will go to great lengths to reject any association and look all defensive about it.

Dems don't have to live by this rule. You can state the fact that Joe showered with his daughter (assuming Ashley truthfully recorded this in her diary), sexually assaulted Tara Read, point out the many inappropriate touching and sniffing of children and and the Dems will laugh because his voters DON'T CARE!

We need to make them live by whatever their rules are and go on the offensive, relentlessly.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (fs1hN)

324 Trump said that he had a scheduled meeting with Kayne and that Kayne brought two uninvited guests. Should he have thrown them out? Is that what the hospitality business is about?

This is at Mar a Lago, right? Trump could have said, "I don't know you guys, how about you go get a nice dinner on the house while I meet with my friend, Kanye."

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (j2Xg6)

325 "You can make cracks about pretty much any other religion that get you ruined if you say them about Jews. Not because of some conspiracy, but because the world is still, reasonably so, very touchy on the issue for Holocaust reasons, and because Jews are very often in positions to make people suffer for being jerks."

I'm tired of pretending that the Holocaust is special compared to all the other occurrences of democide that happened in the 20th century. Even if you take the SIX MILLION number at face value, both Russia and China killed at least five times that many, and no one gives a flying pizza.

Jews constantly use it as a bludgeon to beat people over the head, and that has to stop. The Holocaust was not special, not unique, and it is time we all stopped pretending it was.

Posted by: Unknownsailor at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (loHiy)

326 so that's why Holocaust Denial is not just a "dumb opinion" == it's an opinion offered by Nazis and the Nazi-curious with a specific agenda.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (C1Zwz)

I think the pool of people who are Holocaust deniers or are agnostic to it vastly exceeds the pool of real dedicated Nazis. The sort of people who tend to believe this stuff tend not to be very coherent in their worldview.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM (eYoxG)

That's why it is dangerous. Hitler got were he did because he could unify the country with a simple program - anti-semitism and rebuilding military power. Virtually every other group could come in for that given the bankruptcy of Weimar, and once he had power the time for voting was over.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (eoQWY)

327 298 West didn't say a thing that isn't common talk in the black community. Why do you think Dems don't open their shitpipes and say a word about Farrakhan? They know how highly regarded he is and how blacks, as a general matter, hate Jews. On the other hand, this rush to denounce as a trained monkey for Dems should have ended long ago.
Posted by: ejochs at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (lSFMQ)

Republicans are just refreshing how pathetic and deserving of their impending political death they are...

To your main point and to reup what CDB wrote earlier, there is a reason even some very progressive Jews in urban areas carry guns. That reason would look a lot like Kanye or Sharpton if I had a black son...

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (kJLpK)

328 I found out that if one of my older gay relatives, who I adore despite his leftist politics, ever finds out I voted for Trump, he will never speak to me again. He has cut out all trump-adjacent people from his life. It's so sad the world is coming to this.
Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (Pdtmp)

I had a friend I'd known since HS cut off all contact because I voted for Trump. I won't lie, it hurt.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (wmDcS)

329 I'm not doing your fucking research for you.

This tool is a nevertrumper shit-stirrer, the truth, facts, reason, actual events in time mean nothing to him or her, only "bash trump and get others involved." They have been caught repeatedly inventing lies whole cloth about Trump, making ridiculous, utterly false statements, and just spreading around lies because nothing matters except getting Trump.

This isn't a troll, exactly (at least not by the proper definition) but its someone unworthy of engagement, like the Stormfront loser that shows up here every so often (and probably will this thread).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (cP/Ah)

330 Trying to make a "point" about the Holocaust is like trying to make a point about some guy's dying wife. Best left on the shelf.

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (/q8yE)

331 My Father in Law was liberated by the Americans in Buchenwald. The Americans stood back and allowed those prisoners healthy enough to have a go at the Nazis to have a go at the Nazis. I am sure it happened at every camp.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (flINI)

332 Jews are better than you and you better not forget it.
Posted by: ccoffer at November 29, 2022 03:40 PM (xwsJj)

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They do have an anomalous +15 pts of IQ on the rest of us.

That's a fact (as I know it) not something I'm required to acknowledge.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (krQz2)

333 The point is, it doesn't matter that it's an ambush. Or that the media is playing a double-standard. Or that Kanye is crazy.

All that matters is: It's a trap and Trump is sitting on his thumb in the kill zone

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (KMYsd)

334 What if they made a movie where the longer you are on TV, the longer you would live.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (M5NSB)

335 The R Party is about to take a large shit on Christians, but let's worry about Kanye and the Jews. Yes, by all means, let's use the priorities of Jonathan Greenblatt first and most importantly.

Posted by: ejochs at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (lSFMQ)

336 Nobody remembers what happened in Africa under Clinton's watch.

Feckless UN.

In all fairness, not every fight is America's fight.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (n8jTi)

337 I don't know why "Holocaust denial" can't be just a dumb opinion.

In the wild, one doesn't tend to encounter Holocaust deniers who are simple eccentrics.
==
With respect, you must not know that many lower socio economic types who enjoy Chappelle. You would be shocked at the number of people who watch a video on flat earth and bought. Shocked at the number of people who watch a video on faked moon landing an believe it. Shocked at the number of people who bought the fire can't melt steel bullshit and believe it. HALF THE POPULATION IS BELOW AVERAGE INTELLIGENCE. Stupid is far far more common these days than raving antisemitism. Yes there are people who don't like the Jewish people but there aren't a bunch of people looking to put you in camps any more than there are people looking to put blacks in chains. ITS AN OP.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (WH8Y+)

338 Jews constantly use it as a bludgeon to beat people over the head, and that has to stop. The Holocaust was not special, not unique, and it is time we all stopped pretending it was.
Posted by: Unknownsailor at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (loHiy)

it is considered special because a Western nation did it. Russians and the Far East aren't held to the same standard.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:53 PM (eoQWY)

339 Trump should invite Biden’s bastard grandchild over to his house on Christmas morning.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 29, 2022 03:46 PM (OFYf2)
........

and tell her: "Don't worry, you're safe here."

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 03:54 PM (v0R5T)

340 >>>A point on the "Holocaust denier" Nick Fuentes. I'm not sure it's fair to call him a denier. I think "skeptic" is more accurate. The clips Ace has shown of him, and otherwise what I know of him (not much), it seems his beef isn't with the fact that the Holocaust occured, but with the state-sanctioned NUMBER of those killed. That's what I took his weird smoke-stack argument to mean.

literally every Holocaust denier concedes that SOME number of people were killed, they just argue about the numbers, and say "I'm just saying it was more like in the thousand, not the millions."

And then they say, "And don't forget, it wasn't just Jews."

Which it wasn't. But it was a lot of Jews. But they're really pushing to deny Jews any victimization, because they just really hate Jews and refuse to make any concessions to them.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:54 PM (C1Zwz)

341 >>> I can see wheeling and dealing trying to derail the rail unions strikes

Reagan showed how it's done by firing the air traffic controllers.

Biden doesn't have the stones to do that.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:54 PM (Pdtmp)

342 I had a friend I'd known since HS cut off all contact because I voted for Trump. I won't lie, it hurt.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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My mom, dad and siblings did the same.
I don't even warrant a response when I texted them Happy Thanksgiving and my love. They don't answer phone calls from me anymore.

My condolences.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:54 PM (/hCMk)

343 people who are so historically illiterate that they could not tell you when World War I began suddenly claim to be Historical Detectives when it comes to the smokestacks at Auschwitz.

I find that fascinating.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:55 PM (C1Zwz)

344 328 I found out that if one of my older gay relatives, who I adore despite his leftist politics, ever finds out I voted for Trump, he will never speak to me again. He has cut out all trump-adjacent people from his life. It's so sad the world is coming to this.
Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (Pdtmp)

I had a friend I'd known since HS cut off all contact because I voted for Trump. I won't lie, it hurt.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (wmDcS)
__________________________

You are both better off without them, I'm sad to say. Someone so closed-minded and hateful is sure to stab you in the back at some point. I'd bet money on it. Better to cut ties now.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

345 Why do you do this? Staw man crap. He's not saying he is doubting the holocaust any more than he is saying the MOON LANDING WAS FAKE. Which is a stupid idea, held by weak minded people.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:47 PM (aQxo4)

You seem to have missed Ace's point, which he made rather well.

I suggest you reread it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 03:55 PM (XIJ/X)

346 Not even in top 300
Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 03:49 PM

Trust me, it's not what it seems.

Posted by: zombie Leonides at November 29, 2022 03:55 PM (a3Q+t)

347 This thread needs the Mel Brooks Naughty Nazi song.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 03:55 PM (82U+n)

348 Funny how just a meeting of Truml with no business dealing is front page gossip on Democrats Propaganda Ministry yet Sundowner disappears every weekend sometime for days and anyone he sees is never wondered about

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (xhxe8)

349 SMH, Happy belated Thanksgiving to you.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (OFYf2)

350 I'm tired of pretending that the Holocaust is special compared to all the other occurrences of democide that happened in the 20th century.

Actually it was special and here's why: it took place over a very short period of time, with grisly systematic machinery and almost mechanized precision.

Yes, Communists killed far FAR more people, but it took them nearly a century to pull it off, and it was much more broadly targeted. The Holocaust is particularly horrific because it was so efficient and targeted and slew so many people so fast. It is an evil beyond what the reds did in the 20th century, because given the same time frame, they could have killed billions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (cP/Ah)

351 Iran nearly scored.

US is playing prevent defense.
Yikes.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (ufFY8)

352 England defeats Whales.

Greenpeace inconsolable.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (lf83v)

353 >>> It is a dumb opinion but because of all the freight that comes with it, its not JUST a dumb opinion. It is very important that the world sees and remember what was done and why, because we have a tendency to repeat evils that are not condemned enough. 30 years after the Berlin Wall fell, we have open communists in the federal government because we failed to do that exact thing with the reds.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (cP/Ah)

There are people right now denying that all the forced masking, forced vaxxed, bannings, and being forced to stay home, all that ever occurred. Never allow the deniers to hide the direction and progress of evildoers.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (cqFb3)

354 Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (OFYf2)
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lol

Thanks.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (/hCMk)

355 343 people who are so historically illiterate that they could not tell you when World War I began suddenly claim to be Historical Detectives when it comes to the smokestacks at Auschwitz.

I find that fascinating.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:55 PM (C1Zwz)

==========

Billy Wilder lost his mother, step-father, and grandfather to death camps. He would get very sporty with people who denied it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (LvTSG)

356 #335
Yes the RINO's and that awful Codify Marriage bill.

Family law is entirely the province of the States. The bill is another Constitutional perversion.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (n8jTi)

357 "I am a yuge fan of Trump but I also recognize his shortcomings, his biggest weakness to me is the inability to cull his inner circle of people that are so readily willing to stab him in the back. If he doesnt get a handle on this I cant see how he could be an effective president in a second term. I would support either him or DeSantis, but right now DeSantis has been hitting the right notes

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 03:50 PM (VTu1l) "

I can go along with this.

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (t4fCu)

358 343 people who are so historically illiterate that they could not tell you when World War I began suddenly claim to be Historical Detectives when it comes to the smokestacks at Auschwitz.

I find that fascinating.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:55 PM (C1Zwz)

They're not terribly coherent thinkers.

But I also don't think they're a serious threat or deserving of severe sanction.

Even for communists today I would not seek to eliminate the main body of them, but the 40-50k that constitute the leadership, intellectual and otherwise.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (eYoxG)

359 >>> The R Party is about to take a large shit on Christians

Any chance Mike Lee's religious amendment to the bill will pass? It sounds like it protects religious individuals like cake bakers, not just bigger religious groups and nonprofits. If so that's a big deal.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (Pdtmp)

360 This all has the whiff of Michelle Field's arm.

Why has Trump never apologized or "explained" why he ripped off Michelle Field's arm?!?!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM (cMXNt)

361 That's why it is dangerous. Hitler got were he did because he could unify the country with a simple program - anti-semitism and rebuilding military power. Virtually every other group could come in for that given the bankruptcy of Weimar, and once he had power the time for voting was over.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (eoQWY)
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Anybody who read Hitler knows that Hitler lauded "Scientific Antisemitism" based on the idea that their promised supremacy was an offense to the "aristocratic principle of Nature".

The Nazis might have popularized simply "obeying/following the Science".

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:57 PM (krQz2)

362 "Kanye hates Jews" is one thing, but that's just a peak at a very establishment policy position in the black community. To take one example, Shaquille O'Neal is treated like Santa Clause by our dumb ass mainstream media culture, but is in fact a black supremacist Jew-hating racist piece of dog shit. Should have seen crowd at the "Support Kyrie Irving" rally outside the Barclays Center in Brooklyn last week, another racist piece of shit.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at November 29, 2022 03:57 PM (516e+)

363 Using the old Demoncrat analogy and line: Nothing but a left-wing conspiracy here folks. Now move along smartly and the issue will die within a weeks' worth of so-called news cycles.

And, as I have said before, at the point Trump could be filmed committing armed robbery and felony assault and I wouldn't give a rat's ass. I'm still voting for him because he at least is Pro-American and loves the American People.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 29, 2022 03:57 PM (+ldAm)

364 Wow what a fucking clown show this country is.

Posted by: Ringling Brothers at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (bzIRf)

365 > I personally have no idea how many died. I have no way of knowing. 6M sounds reasonable to me. But if Fuentes wants to be skeptical of that number, I can't blame him.

There are different flavors of holocaust deniers. Some say no Jews were killed, but in my very inexpert experience, that number is actually very few. The far more common flavor will try to lawyer down that 6 million number, using all sorts of ahistorical "proofs."

Plenty of Europeans will try to lawyer down the numbers of dead in the camps that were near their home towns. They'll admit the numbers were bad in the faraway "death camps," but those "work camps" near where I live were really only sort of bad.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (j2Xg6)

366 the fact that Holocaust deniers play the "i'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just questioning the numbers" game is so well-known that Norm MacDonald has a long-running bit about it, in which he accuses his co-host of being a Holocaust Denier, claiming he is always saying, "I'm not saying no one died in the holocaust, but was it six hundred or six million? Either way it's bad, but..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvtw6Q90Ce0

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (C1Zwz)

367 I for one am looking forward watching the MSM and establishment GOP going easy on Ron DeSantis and never ever never ever stirring up a news cycle of allegations of his anti-this-ism or anti-that-ism.

Only Trump will get that kind of hysterical treatment, surely.

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (786Ro)

368 Fine, Trump is 100% pure on the issue of racism and anti-semitism, can we at least say it's politically stupid the way he handles it?
Posted by: Hylian

You're new here, aren't you? And jump in both feet.
I'm just curious... which campaign are you working for?
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Hylian stops in during campaign season. Will be gone when its over, until the next op season starts.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (kBsCT)

369 Jews are better than you and you better not forget it.

I gotta be honest, looking at history and what Jewish people have accomplished, they probably ARE better people than I. There have been more Jewish Nobel Prize winners than any other ethnic group -- and this was mostly before WW2, back when Jews were pretty looked down upon and treated pretty crappy in the west.

Jews have an unfortunate tendency to lean communist, but damned if they haven't been an amazing, overall positive force in business, medicine, technology, banking, and entertainment through history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (cP/Ah)

370 So what you are admitting . . .

No, what I'm saying is that Holocaust deniers are almost invariably Nazi symps, and I'm not wasting my valuable time granting Holocaust deniers as a class the benefit of the doubt based on a nearly nonexistent demographic of smoothbrain eccentrics.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (ppBhU)

371 I don't think Kim Kardashian's ass is all that.

Kinda gross, really.
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 03:44 PM (t4fCu)

Camila Cabello says hi

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 29, 2022 03:59 PM (M+Lyo)

372 The more important question is, has Trump stopped beating his wife?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2022 03:59 PM (lTGtQ)

373 367 Only Trump will get that kind of hysterical treatment, surely.
Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (786Ro)

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Mitt Romney was treated like a kindly old man in 2012.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 03:59 PM (LvTSG)

374 I gotta admit I'm tired of the descendants of 'victims' of some atrocities being special moral authority, generations later... especially when we don't do that for ALL genocidal atrocities.

Cambodians? Some Russians? Com Chinese? I don't see special groups of lawyers out there protecting THOSE groups form Defamation.

And we are what.... 3 or 4 generations past Slavery in this Country?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2022 03:59 PM (oHd/0)

375 this might be weighing on Ye's mind.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:39 PM (C1Zwz)

Yeah, it's pretty apparent that these are not the deepest, scholarly souls. Not sure why Trump can't just avoid them and still be a "man of the people" - it's not that hard. I think he's lived so long in the big city limelight that it's an attraction he can't resist. Or he just doesn't care what the media or celebrity watchers think of him. He's an odd person to want to be a politician, I guess.

Posted by: Boswell at November 29, 2022 03:59 PM (+Cgut)

376 I will take the word of U.S. Military personnel, blood relatives of mine, who actually saw the camps and talked to survivors.

Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2022 03:59 PM (0OP+5)

377 Four years of Trump and we’re no closer to the truth on who shot Tupac.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 29, 2022 04:00 PM (OFYf2)

378 Hey Eromero. : )

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:00 PM (/hCMk)

379 >>> I personally have no idea how many died. I have no way of knowing. 6M sounds reasonable to me. But if Fuentes wants to be skeptical of that number, I can't blame him.

there are museums in which the names of all concentration camp prisoners are stored and searchable, as well as whether they survived or not. These numbers aren't just guesswork.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 04:00 PM (C1Zwz)

380 Trump had dinner with a celebrity that doesn't like an ethnic group. END OF THE WORLD

Should we delve into every celebrity Obama or Biden had dinner with and what they believe about white people, Christians, or...Jews? Because I think that analysis would be very "Fuentesy"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:00 PM (ESjRY)

381 Someone rich needs to put up a statue to Sen. Byrd paling around with Sen. Brandon.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 04:00 PM (n8jTi)

382 SMH, they may be your family by blood but you and Ex-ex have a whole lot of family right here.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (qsvUC)

383 No, leftist Jews won't say a word about black anti-semitism because they don't give a shit about black anti-semitism as compared to getting black votes for the left. Emanual and Axelrod don't say a peep about the good Reverend Farrakhan.

Posted by: ejochs at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (lSFMQ)

384 Posted by: Unknownsailor at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (loHiy)

You don't know much history if you don't understand why the Holocaust was different.

But I would guess that's not the real issue here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (XIJ/X)

385 That's why it is dangerous. Hitler got were he did because he could unify the country with a simple program - anti-semitism and rebuilding military power. Virtually every other group could come in for that given the bankruptcy of Weimar, and once he had power the time for voting was over.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (eoQWY)

Hitler didn't really have to unify the country.
The centrists offered the communists the opportunity to coalition first for that matter.

Hitler and Nazi leadership were dangerous because they could lead and organize, play effective politics.
It wasn't their dumbass thugs in the streets, who exist in any society, that are the main threat. The cannon fodder always exists, and you will not educate them into being something other than what they are.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (eYoxG)

386 The Nazis might have popularized simply "obeying/following the Science".

Pretty much. Everything they did, all the Fascists, was under a sheen of the latest, most advanced science. It included a lot of lunatic nonsense like phrenology, but it was considered terribly scientific. Up until the mid-30s and even later for some, fascism was the darling of academia.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (cP/Ah)

387 I gotta be honest, looking at history and what Jewish people have accomplished, they probably ARE better people than I

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Look at all the empires in history who have ever abused the Jews and tell me where they are now. The Jews are still here.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (flINI)

388 Crazy in the box

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (ufFY8)

389 I don't think Trump is a closet n@zi, I just think he's so incredibly stupid with how he plays politics.

He plays it like he played being a celebrity in the 80's. "I don't care what the newspapers say about me as long as they spell my name right" Trump become a household name mainly because of his high profile affairs. And he loved every minute of it.

That's how he's handling this, he thinks he's "winning" because he's what everyone's talking about right now.

I don't think the White House is Trump's real goal anymore, it's just to be the center of attention at all times.

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (dpIbY)

390 ... What I'm saying is that there are probably details that would be helpful to Trump, which he should share, and not just in some blustery off-the-cuff "Truth" on Truth Social. Like, take it seriously, write out your thoughts (or have someone write them out after you narrate them), and deliver prepared remarks. ...
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I don't disagree. Based on what I've read so far, he was blindsided by it. He agreed to meet West, mainly to try to convince him to *not* run for president. West brought along other people when he showed up. One of them was Fuentes. Trump either didn't know who the other people were (he says he didn't) or he made a poor judgement call. Either way, that can be explained.

He sort of has, but in an off-the-cuff way. That should probably be less off-the-cuff.

That being said, though, I am not sure it matters. he can explain or not. Any explanation is unlikely to cut through the noise, especially since the press will not cover it or will do the spinning they do anyway. I understand and even largely agree with the position that he *should* explain it, I just don't know if it matters whether he does or not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (t0OGg)

391 Why do I feel that by Ye trying to blame everything on Jews, and Trump getting smeared by association, that the further destruction of Trump will now be blamed on the Jews?

Posted by: Zek at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (5FPX4)

392 Republicans suck and are never going to be in the White House again. esp TRUMP

Posted by: Diane Hylian Clinton at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (M3hSG)

393 Why do you do this? Staw man crap. He's not saying he is doubting the holocaust any more than he is saying the MOON LANDING WAS FAKE. Which is a stupid idea, held by weak minded people.

Posted by: Op's here now too? Really? at November 29, 2022 03:47 PM (aQxo4)

The moon landing was real, but they lied when they said it wasn't made out of cheese

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (M+Lyo)

394 literally every Holocaust denier concedes that SOME number of people were killed, they just argue about the numbers, and say "I'm just saying it was more like in the thousand, not the millions."

And then they say, "And don't forget, it wasn't just Jews."

Which it wasn't. But it was a lot of Jews. But they're really pushing to deny Jews any victimization, because they just really hate Jews and refuse to make any concessions to them.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:54 PM (C1Zwz)
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I think if you "really hate Jews" you won't be so vague and circumspect about it. You'd just up and say it, like the brother-fucker and many Muslims do. Fuentes isn't saying that. What he is saying are two points you are acknowledging: (i) the number of dead could be less than what is reported and (ii) it wasn't only Jews. I'm not sure how you go from that to assuming brother-fucker levels of Jew hate.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

395 That retouching and manipulating photos was a laborious and time-consuming project, it wasn't three clicks on Photoshop and you're done. I wonder if any of that stuck with him?
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Tell me about it!

BTW, ignore trolls, comrades!

Posted by: zombie Nikolai Yezhov at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (Vwz3I)

396 Play on.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (lf83v)

397 Wonder what awful thing they're all cooking up. Immigration, abortion, or guns?

Place your bets.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 03:30 PM (oINRc)
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Ukraine and climate change. For the children.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (t0OGg)

398 No foul.

Minute to go.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (ufFY8)

399 fact that Holocaust deniers play the "i'm not saying it didn't happen,
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So that isn't a denier. That's a diminisher. Which is pretty fcuking ridiculous, but still, if you are going to be fair then be fair. Genocide did not begin, nor end with the Holocaust. Which is the real sad fcukin thing. You don't have to be jewish to wind up stacked amongst a pile of fcuking bones, and god help us all if we forget the killing fields.

Posted by: I 'm not james woods but at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (mD6kb)

400 Jews constantly use it as a bludgeon to beat people over the head, and that has to stop. The Holocaust was not special, not unique, and it is time we all stopped pretending it was.
Posted by: Unknownsailor at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (loHiy)

Same for McCain, and Bush II before him, and....

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (eoQWY)

401 390 That being said, though, I am not sure it matters. he can explain or not. Any explanation is unlikely to cut through the noise, especially since the press will not cover it or will do the spinning they do anyway. I understand and even largely agree with the position that he *should* explain it, I just don't know if it matters whether he does or not.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (t0OGg)

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But...you said he already explained it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (LvTSG)

402 Anybody who read Hitler knows that Hitler lauded "Scientific Antisemitism" based on the idea that their promised supremacy was an offense to the "aristocratic principle of Nature".

The Nazis might have popularized simply "obeying/following the Science".
Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 03:57 PM (krQz2)

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Anti-semitic "scientific" thinking was WILDLY popular in pretty much all of Europe at that time. Churchill had some pretty spicy shit to say about the Jewish race.

Posted by: Random Internet Asshole at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (8LP6B)

403 USA wins 1-0

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (87Ur0)

404 ran nearly scored.

US is playing prevent defense.
Yikes.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

Country that hates the gheys vs the country that hates the straights.

I was rooting for Wales because they have coolest flag of anyone.

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (786Ro)

405 Only Trump will get that kind of hysterical treatment, surely.

*****

Yeah I dont think anyone here is under any illusion that once Trump is no longer a threat that the GOPe and Con Inc will still continue to be all cuddly winks with DeSantis

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (VTu1l)

406 USA wins.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (lf83v)

407 I don't think Kim Kardashian's ass is all that.

Kinda gross, really.

Yep. That magazine cover where she's all lubed up and her HUGE butt is hanging out appeals to me about as much as a beanbag chair stapled to a tree.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (j2Xg6)

408 372 The more important question is, has Trump stopped beating his wife?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2022 03:59 PM (lTGtQ)

You probably could get more than half of the Republicans in the Senate to respond to this question.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (kJLpK)

409 Win.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (vCY3B)

410 Game over. US wins, and will get whacked by the Dutch this weekend.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (ufFY8)

411 SMH, they may be your family by blood but you and Ex-ex have a whole lot of family right here.
Posted by: Ben Had
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I know.

And that the Good Lord brought you into my life is proof that He exists.

And that He brought Ex-Ex and I back together after all the dumb shit I've done, proves that He also performs miracles, lol.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (isQS2)

412 #379
Camp inmates were tattooed with serial number. Records in a book. Others were just murdered. There's witness accounts from the day.

Captives from all demographics.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (n8jTi)

413 Is it terrible that a sadistic side of me is actually looking forward to a potential presidential debate with Trump and Kanye?

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (Pdtmp)

414 Tarantino's next 70mm western will be shown exclusively on Kardashian's ass.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (44ww/)

415 gotta be honest, looking at history and what Jewish people have accomplished, they probably ARE better people than I. There have been more Jewish Nobel Prize winners than any other ethnic group -- and this was mostly before WW2, back when Jews were pretty looked down upon and treated pretty crappy in the west.

Jews have an unfortunate tendency to lean communist, but damned if they haven't been an amazing, overall positive force in business, medicine, technology, banking, and entertainment through history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (cP/Ah)
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Their greatest "sin" -- from the perspective of nihilistic narcissistic commie totalitarians -- was bringing ethical monotheism, The Ten Commandments, and the rest of the Old Testament to the world. These are things that the Left cannot abide ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (FUBfX)

416 Say what you want about Iran, but they have beautiful women.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (lf83v)

417 One nil!!!! U S A!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (OFYf2)

418
there are museums in which the names of all concentration camp prisoners are stored and searchable, as well as whether they survived or not. These numbers aren't just guesswork.

If you look at Rummel he puts the NAZI democide total at around 21M. That includes the Holocaust and all of the murder activities in the east and occupied territories separate from the war itself.

Governments, sadly, are perhaps best at killing people.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (ESjRY)

419 That retouching and manipulating photos was a laborious and time-consuming project, it wasn't three clicks on Photoshop and you're done. I wonder if any of that stuck with him?

Maybe on some academic or intellectual level but until he actually tries to doctor or sees a youtube video about how damned hard it was to airbrush and doctor old pictures, it won't really sink in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (cP/Ah)

420 Now to lose in the knock out round.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (vCY3B)

421 Jews have an unfortunate tendency to lean communist, but damned if they haven't been an amazing, overall positive force in business, medicine, technology, banking, and entertainment through history.

As I always say to "anti-Zionists", I'll stay on the side that invented guns that shoot around corners. They need those in a John Wick movie.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (ZGrMX)

422 Nobody remembers what happened in Africa under Clinton's watch.

Feckless UN.

In all fairness, not every fight is America's fight.
Posted by: torabora

this ^^^^ right here is why the UN (and what ever dumbass country sent them) better hope i never see a blue helmeted rapist 'peace keeping' in the FUSA.

Posted by: BifBewalski at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (3CCua)

423 That was the ugliest last 10 minutes of US ball...it was a miracle we held on.

We gotta stop playing to "hold a lead" and just keep playing all out. We SUCK at trying to hold a lead.

But, we're in the knockouts and Iran didn't beat "their Great Satan", so WIN/WIN USA!

Posted by: Nova local at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (exHjb)

424 I'm not sure how you go from that to assuming brother-fucker levels of Jew hate.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

It's easy if you listen to what he says, and not just what is reported.

I have watched his videos...he is a stone-cold Jew hater.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (XIJ/X)

425
>>> I can see wheeling and dealing trying to derail the rail unions strikes

Reagan showed how it's done by firing the air traffic controllers.

Biden doesn't have the stones to do that.
Posted by: LizLem

Who should he fire?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (63Dwl)

426 >>>I think if you "really hate Jews" you won't be so vague and circumspect about it. You'd just up and say it, like the brother-fucker and many Muslims do. Fuentes isn't saying that.

oh for Christ's sake, fuck off. THIS IS WHAT HOLOCAUST DENIERS DO AND HAVE BEEN DOING FOR FORTY FUCKING YEARS.

if you just want to make some space for them, what the fuck ever, I am done fucking around with you.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 04:05 PM (C1Zwz)

427 Holocaust Denial?

I do not deny it happened, but I point out it was six million Jews and six million others too. Gypsies, homosexuals, Communists, other religious minorities, Poles, Slavs, Czechs, and others.

Yes they wanted to liquidate all Jews.
They wanted to do the same to all Gypsies too.

Nazis were monsters period.

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 04:05 PM (Z32m1)

428 But...you said he already explained it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (LvTSG)
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Sort of. I am not on "Truth Social" and saw it in Ace's post about it yesterday where Trump talked about not knowing who most of the people that West brought with him were.

But a post on Truth Social is not really an explanation, as it doesn't have much reach.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:05 PM (t0OGg)

429 West supported Trump and that matters to Trump, so he had him for dinner. Trump said he didn't know Fuentes and didn't know he was coming, and I buy that. End of story for me.

I don't care if Trump explains beyond what he already said.

That Trump is anti-Semitic or would countenance anti-Semitism around him is absurd.

The screaming hypocrisy here of the truly and vilely anti-Semitic Left is not surprising. As for the Republicans, this is just a chance to sanctimoniously dump on Trump in ways they wouldn't on the Left.

Pence can FOAD.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 29, 2022 04:05 PM (H8QX8)

430 I had a friend I'd known since HS cut off all contact because I voted for Trump. I won't lie, it hurt.
Posted by: Colorado Alex

Pro tip:
They weren't your friend. Acquaintance maybe. But not a friend.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 04:05 PM (ekL79)

431 USA wins 1-0
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (87Ur0)

Allah let the Iranians and me down.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 04:05 PM (yQpMk)

432 I will take the word of U.S. Military personnel, blood relatives of mine, who actually saw the camps and talked to survivors.
Posted by: Eromero

I know about Ft Happnin' Jackson, and met some Hungarian soldiers who spent time in Soviet prisoner gulags.

Ask about the Poison Ivy Soup recipe sometime.

Posted by: Miklos needs a visit to Caughman's at November 29, 2022 04:05 PM (NOVDU)

433 Persian women are hawt.

Catherine Bell is one of them.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (ufFY8)

434 Bring on the Dutchmen!

Dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (OFYf2)

435 appeals to me about as much as a beanbag chair stapled to a tree.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (j2Xg6)

Is it a ficus?

Posted by: Harvey W. at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (XIJ/X)

436 This little kerfuffle isn't moving the needle one way or the other. Attitudes about Trump among the electorate are CEMENTED. And that's the problem. He's got about 40% locked down, and that 40% aren't going to abandon him no matter what. The other 8-9% he's going to need to win in 2024 comes from...where exactly? Not suburban women, that group is lost to him forever. Maybe he picks up a few extra percent from blacks and Latinos, but that's still not enough.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (NVVQz)

437 Their greatest "sin" -- from the perspective of nihilistic narcissistic commie totalitarians -- was bringing ethical monotheism, The Ten Commandments, and the rest of the Old Testament to the world. These are things that the Left cannot abide ...

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And of course I should have included the New Testament, Jesu, and Christianity -- fruits of the "poisonous" Jews

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (kEjR6)

438 Haven't read the comments, but isn't there a large strain of Jew hatred among black men? Not sure why, exactly, but it's pretty common as far as I know.

So Kanye being one of them is not surprising. Doesn't make it right.

Trump will need to work hard to get out of that gaffe.

Still: what about the left's hatred of Baptists, Mormons, Catholics, etc? Isn't that just as bad as Kanye's Jewish stuff?

Posted by: GanGanowicz at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (Kbz60)

439 I think if you "really hate Jews" you won't be so vague and circumspect about it. You'd just up and say it, like the brother-fucker and many Muslims do. Fuentes isn't saying that. What he is saying are two points you are acknowledging: (i) the number of dead could be less than what is reported and (ii) it wasn't only Jews. I'm not sure how you go from that to assuming brother-fucker levels of Jew hate.
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This. You don't have to tease it out of a kid from Lebanon that they really really hate jews. I will never forget the kid in hs who emigrated - nice kid - until somebody mentioned jewish anything OMG. I think its a "dis" service to say anyone who believes there may be some grounds to remember the homosexuals, the retarded, the catholic priests and religious who died in the camps is merely trying to diminish the suffering of the jewish people. That's obviously not what you meant. But somebody could read it that way if they were trying to be an ashole. Don't do that to other people Ace. You are better than that.

Posted by: I 'm not james woods but at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (29UUx)

440 If you look at Rummel he puts the NAZI democide total at around 21M.

Poland alone lost around 6 million people, and only some of them were Jewish.

However a chunk of Rummel's numbers are war dead, which is difficult to specifically condemn the Germans for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (cP/Ah)

441 I do wonder what happened to Hitler, though. According to history, he shot himself in a ditch and they burned the body. The Russians claimed for decades they had a piece of his jaw. I'm pretty sure that was proven false with DNA testing.

I don't think he made it to S America, I just don't know if the official story is true. To my knowledge, nobody has been able to turn up any piece of his corpse.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (j2Xg6)

442 As someone mentioned here earlier, the only reason to play soccer is to avoid having to watch soccer.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (a3Q+t)

443 325 I'm tired of pretending that the Holocaust is special compared to all the other occurrences of democide that happened in the 20th century. Even if you take the SIX MILLION number at face value, both Russia and China killed at least five times that many, and no one gives a flying pizza.

Jews constantly use it as a bludgeon to beat people over the head, and that has to stop. The Holocaust was not special, not unique, and it is time we all stopped pretending it was.

Posted by: Unknownsailor at November 29, 2022 03:52 PM (loHiy)

Great points. And if you happen to question any single aspect of it, even the number of people killed, that somehow makes you a "denier." Even though you're not denying the event actually occurred. But shame on you for questioning. You must accept everything that's spoon-fed to you. We see this tactic repeated with the election, with the Wuhan virus, with the vaccines, with so many events throughout history. Never question. Who knows where that might lead.

Posted by: E. A. Blair at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (8o7em)

444 Do we have a list of people that have dined with Noam Chomsky? The guy that denies the Cambodian Holocaust?

How about we ask celebrities whether the Chinese Communist Party has murdered 10s of millions of people...because if they say no they are denying the Chinese Holocaust.

And on and on.

Fuentes is a clown. But we have a government and celebrity class almost exclusively made of clowns.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (ESjRY)

445 It got so bad that front line generals were complaining that they weren't getting supplies because the trains were being diverted to send captives to the camps. Circa 1944

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (n8jTi)

446 Nah, if the moon was made of cheese, all the Wisconsinoids would have moved there.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (v0R5T)

447 "I just want to have a historical debate about whether the smokestacks at Auschwitz were real, or were inserted on to those buildings by photographic manipulation to frame Hitler for murders that never happened."

THAT IS WHAT FUENTES IS SAYING WHEN HE CLAIMS THE "SHADOWS DON'T LINE UP." THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT OFFERED BY HOLOCAUST DENIER DAVID IRVING IN THE 1970s AND IT'S THE SAME RANCID ANTISEMITIC BULLSHIT BEING OFFERED NOW.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving

read a fucking book

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (C1Zwz)

448 Pro tip:
They weren't your friend. Acquaintance maybe. But not a friend.
Posted by: rickb223
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Now do family.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (isQS2)

449 new post up

Posted by: Ann at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (rBu2O)

450 428 But...you said he already explained it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM (LvTSG)
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Sort of. I am not on "Truth Social" and saw it in Ace's post about it yesterday where Trump talked about not knowing who most of the people that West brought with him were.

But a post on Truth Social is not really an explanation, as it doesn't have much reach.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:05 PM (t0OGg)

I said near the top that far-reaching is probably not a great strategy here. Since this amounts to celebrity "news" letting it blow over instead of taking with great seriousness is probably the best way to handle it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:08 PM (eYoxG)

451 >>"I'm not saying no one died in the holocaust, but was it six hundred or six million? Either way it's bad, but..."

It's the most demented thing for antisemitic Americans to even try to do. It's not like the US Army wasn't there and liberated these death camps and saw all the bodies. It's well documented and well known - everyone that came home from the European theatre knew about it and witnessed it. It's some form of insanity to deny a reality that won't fit your demented belief system. These people belong in Creekmore or Bedlam, not running around on podcasts or dining with ex-Presidents.

Posted by: Boswell at November 29, 2022 04:08 PM (+Cgut)

452 >>>
Jews constantly use it as a bludgeon to beat people over the head, and that has to stop. The Holocaust was not special, not unique, and it is time we all stopped pretending it was.

there you go, as I said.

but let's make some room to argue about the numbers

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 04:08 PM (C1Zwz)

453 If you're talking about Trump's inner-circle who stabbed him in the back, I'm going to have to put Steve Bannon in that category.

Manafort and Don Jr. met for 20 minutes with one Russian lawyer who had numerous meetings with Fusion GPS and a Russian lawyer who had been a naturalized American for ~19 years prior to that (Ahmetshin) and was another friend of a GPS founder, and when Bannon heard about it he called it "treason" and accused other Trumpers of "Letting the Russians in".

He gave the Demedia their soundbites to characterize the Tower meeting as some sort of scandal or worse.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:08 PM (krQz2)

454 You don't know much history if you don't understand why the Holocaust was different.

But I would guess that's not the real issue here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (XIJ/X)

Hi

Posted by: Armenians/Ukrainians/Many Other Group at November 29, 2022 04:08 PM (EpDzw)

455 359 >>> The R Party is about to take a large shit on Christians

Any chance Mike Lee's religious amendment to the bill will pass? It sounds like it protects religious individuals like cake bakers, not just bigger religious groups and nonprofits. If so that's a big deal.
Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:56 PM
I suspect the bill, which was written by bureaucrat staffers who never get replaced, only recycled, contains some sort of trojan horse which in the end......have a clause. This clause will probably require Christians to sacrifice every other baby to moloch.

Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2022 04:08 PM (0OP+5)

456 328 I found out that if one of my older gay relatives, who I adore despite his leftist politics, ever finds out I voted for Trump, he will never speak to me again. He has cut out all trump-adjacent people from his life. It's so sad the world is coming to this.
Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 03:48 PM (Pdtmp)

Hell, and the hellacious places on Earth, are prisons in appearance only. You can walk out of as soon as it occurs to them that it should and could happen.

...To try to pull a little CS Lewis wisdom there.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 29, 2022 04:08 PM (44ww/)

457 oh for Christ's sake, fuck off. THIS IS WHAT HOLOCAUST DENIERS DO AND HAVE BEEN DOING FOR FORTY FUCKING YEARS.

if you just want to make some space for them, what the fuck ever, I am done fucking around with you.
Posted by: ace
==
What the Hell is wrong with you?

Posted by: I 'm not james woods but at November 29, 2022 04:08 PM (F0vmW)

458 428 Sort of. I am not on "Truth Social" and saw it in Ace's post about it yesterday where Trump talked about not knowing who most of the people that West brought with him were.

But a post on Truth Social is not really an explanation, as it doesn't have much reach.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:05 PM (t0OGg)

==========

It's a public statement that explains it. If you want the explanation it's out there. If you don't want the explanation, you can ignore it.

I'm not sure where Trump could go to repeat it to satisfy this need for his explanation any more than that.

If he goes onto Tucker and reads the exact statement? Is that an "explanation" now? Does he have to sit down with Maggie Holberman from the NYT again to say it? Where's the line?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (LvTSG)

459 Hitler didn't really have to unify the country.
The centrists offered the communists the opportunity to coalition first for that matter.

Hitler and Nazi leadership were dangerous because they could lead and organize, play effective politics.
It wasn't their dumbass thugs in the streets, who exist in any society, that are the main threat. The cannon fodder always exists, and you will not educate them into being something other than what they are.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (eYoxG)

Some centrists were leery of the rearming because they thought the rest of Europe might do something. But the antisemitism was something they could agree on with Hitler, and they could wishcast that he was probably just exaggerating.

Any attempt to join to the communists was going to be tough work because there were lots of Freicorps vets about who had fought pro Communist mobs in many cities after the war.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (eoQWY)

460
Come on, man. Please don't reveal yourself to be someone who is agnostic about the Holocaust or why we HAVE to believe in it.
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:43 PM (C1Zwz)

If we have to believe it because otherwise it will happen again, apparently we haven't believed it hard enough to prevent it for the Cambodians under Pol Pot, and Mao's collectivization-Great Leap-Cultural Revolution, and Yugoslavia, and the Huttus and Tutsis, and white farmers in Rhodesia

Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (xhaym)

461 Most American Jews are rabidly progressive and would happily deny the holocaust. They vote dem every chance t hey can and would rat out their conservative and orthodox brothers to the cattle cars in a minute. They can moan about Ye so they look good to their progressive associates.

Posted by: Megthered at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (bE6LC)

462 I do wonder what happened to Hitler, though. According to history, he shot himself in a ditch and they burned the body. The Russians claimed for decades they had a piece of his jaw. I'm pretty sure that was proven false with DNA testing.

I don't think he made it to S America, I just don't know if the official story is true. To my knowledge, nobody has been able to turn up any piece of his corpse.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (j2Xg6)

I thought the Russians had his brain and his ballsack.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (yQpMk)

463 Has Kanye literally said that he hates Jews, or is it that any criticism of Jews should be assumed as hatred?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (k3RKX)

464 I'll betcha none of this is taught in our schools.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (n8jTi)

465 Dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs!
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (OFYf2)

I moved from an area with Poles, Italians, Serbs, Cros, Greeks, and Irish, to a predominantly Dutch area.
Holy shit, I was amazed at the number of very tall, blonde, stacked women.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (ufFY8)

466 Nood China commies

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (VTu1l)

467 >>>It's the most demented thing for antisemitic Americans to even try to do. It's not like the US Army wasn't there and liberated these death camps and saw all the bodies

"yeah but was it 6000 or six million"

"i'm not denying the holocaust I'm just having a debate about math, that's all. How can math be antisemitic"

unbelievable

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (C1Zwz)

468 Yay USA beat crybaby Iran! Now I can go back to not caring about European kickball.

In The Lady Vanishes, the two gents obsessed with cricket rag on baseball, says it's a children's game in England, they call it rounders. You can probably do that with any sport.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (Pdtmp)

469 Attitudes about Trump among the electorate are CEMENTED. And that's the problem. He's got about 40% locked down, and that 40% aren't going to abandon him no matter what. The other 8-9% he's going to need to win in 2024 comes from...where exactly? Not suburban women, that group is lost to him forever. Maybe he picks up a few extra percent from blacks and Latinos, but that's still not enough.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston
___

Exactly, there is no path where Trump wins the WH again, he has lost that upper middle class suburban voter forever and its not going to get made up with minority voters because he breaks bread with crazy black celebrities.

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (dpIbY)

470 Fuentes isn't even conservative, he's a coom brained grifter, he's not the hill anyone should be dying on.

Posted by: Broseidon at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (xp1bl)

471 SMH, they may be your family by blood but you and Ex-ex have a whole lot of family right here.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (qsvUC)

You're supposed to be trying to cheer her up.

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (/HQcE)

472 I'm not sure how you go from that to assuming brother-fucker levels of Jew hate.

By the way the FNM says that's disproven.

How is it disproven? Well Ilhan Omar says the guy she married wasn't her brother.

No seriously, that's their proof.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (ESjRY)

473 424 I'm not sure how you go from that to assuming brother-fucker levels of Jew hate.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

It's easy if you listen to what he says, and not just what is reported.

I have watched his videos...he is a stone-cold Jew hater.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2022 04:04 PM (XIJ/X)
________________________

Where? I haven't seen any of that and ace hasn't posted it. But if so then that proves my point above: if you are a hater there's no reason to hide behind smoke-stack bullshit. You can just come out and say it. Not only will you not suffer any repercussions, you'll be lauded in some circles.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 04:10 PM (iFTx/)

474 Not suburban women, that group is lost to him forever. Maybe he picks up a few extra percent from blacks and Latinos, but that's still not enough.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 29, 2022 04:06 PM (NVVQz)

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He actually won white married women in 2020 like 56 to 43. The definition of "suburban women".

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 29, 2022 04:10 PM (cMXNt)

475 Persian women are hawt.

Yes, yes they are. Many of them are a 10 at any business you care to name.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2022 04:10 PM (ZGrMX)

476 And we are what.... 3 or 4 generations past Slavery in this Country?
Posted by: Romeo13

160 years... 25 years per...6 or 7 easy.

Posted by: MkY at November 29, 2022 04:10 PM (cPGH3)

477 >>>Great points. And if you happen to question any single aspect of it, even the number of people killed, that somehow makes you a "denier." Even though you're not denying the event actually occurred. But shame on you for questioning. You must accept everything that's spoon-fed to you

i'm just saying the shadows don't line up man

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 04:11 PM (C1Zwz)

478 Why are people picking on ACE for wanting the truth to be said about the evils of the Holocaust and Nazi Germany? Who are you people, I don't even recognize most of these names.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:11 PM (cP/Ah)

479 It got so bad that front line generals were complaining that they weren't getting supplies because the trains were being diverted to send captives to the camps. Circa 1944
Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (n8jTi)

Gotta have your priorities. There was also a huge movie project going in 44-45 that used thousands of soldiers in re-enacting Napoleonic battles. More than were actually in the battles in real life.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:11 PM (eoQWY)

480 If he goes onto Tucker and reads the exact statement? Is that an "explanation" now? Does he have to sit down with Maggie Holberman from the NYT again to say it? Where's the line?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (LvTSG)
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Right. I have no idea. That's why I wrote what I did up there - I think it's probably not a bad idea to put out a polished statement in a larger venue, but I don't know that it makes any difference when all is said and done.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:12 PM (t0OGg)

481 M'aiq is wondering, have we begun the Airing of Greivances, early?

Posted by: M'aiq The Liar at November 29, 2022 04:12 PM (x8HKZ)

482 I do not understand hatred of Jews and never have. Completely baffles me.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (H8QX8)

483 He actually won white married women in 2020 like 56 to 43. The definition of "suburban women".
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
++

Every Republican President wins that demo easy.
You have to win it by a larger margin than he did.

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (dpIbY)

484 In The Lady Vanishes, the two gents obsessed with cricket rag on baseball, says it's a children's game in England, they call it rounders.

They do that still to this day, and fair cop, baseball does appear to have been based on Rounders.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (cP/Ah)

485 So USA wins, but what? I can't make out what winning or losing does if you can play again

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (xhxe8)

486 yeah but was it 6000 or six million"

"i'm not denying the holocaust I'm just having a debate about math, that's all. How can math be antisemitic"

unbelievable
==
What if it was there were 6 million jews and another 6 million non jews - is that denial? Its hypothetical, i don't know the numbers but its millions of both jews and non jews does that not matter. Does pointing out that genocide still continues today not matter either? That is not holocaust denial. In fact, it is a disservice to the deaths of those people to think of it only as a historical fact that can never happen again. Its fucking happening right now.

Posted by: I 'm not james woods but at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (aQxo4)

487 Where did Trump bury Michelle Fields arm?1?!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (cMXNt)

488 Expressment of Views is Prohibited unless Mandatory.

Posted by: People's Republic of Miklos at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (NOVDU)

489 486 yeah but was it 6000 or six million"

"i'm not denying the holocaust I'm just having a debate about math, that's all. How can math be antisemitic"

unbelievable
==
What if it was there were 6 million jews and another 6 million non jews - is that denial? Its hypothetical, i don't know the numbers but its millions of both jews and non jews does that not matter. Does pointing out that genocide still continues today not matter either? That is not holocaust denial. In fact, it is a disservice to the deaths of those people to think of it only as a historical fact that can never happen again. Its fucking happening right now.
Posted by: I 'm not james woods but at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (aQxo4)

6 million Jews and 6 million non-Jews I believe is roughly the current standard estimate.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (eYoxG)

490 I feel like Milo is running this OP, or at least he's the handler.

Posted by: Max Power at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (Hucnr)

491 Probably already been said, but it's not fair to mix Milo up in any of this and it looks like he was not even at the Tim Pool interview. He's half jewish, was a gay man living with a black man, and is not at all racist. He is now trying to be living the straight life and came out as a heterosexual and was sent to Coventry for that. So to speak.

Posted by: Beverly at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (xeelq)

492 416 Say what you want about Iran, but they have beautiful women.
_______

The US played the Iran women's team?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 29, 2022 04:15 PM (fs1hN)

493 Ordinary American- there are books on it, Dennis Prager has one. Part is Leftism has always be antisemitism often while Jews are a big part, though really dropping Jewish religion for Leftism.

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 04:15 PM (xhxe8)

494 I was rooting for Wales because they have coolest flag of anyone.
Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 04:03 PM

And let us not forget the leek.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 29, 2022 04:16 PM (Wnv9h)

495 nood

asians

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 04:16 PM (cqFb3)

496 I do not understand hatred of Jews and never have.
==
Me neither. Unless you are a palestinian and were raised on it or something. I mean the first half of every christian bible - the majority of it - is all ABOUT the Jews. Period full stop. The lady on top of the golden dome of Notre Dame was a Jewish gal, her husband was jewish too. Its who we are too.

Posted by: I 'm not james woods but at November 29, 2022 04:16 PM (Y9hTp)

497 Holocaust denial is flat out stupid. The Germans kept voluminous records of everything they did , and there were enough survivors, as well as USA and Russian soldiers who discovered the camps to provide eyewitness accounts. Having said that Trump meeting with Kanye can't be of any benefit to Trump even if he was trying to be kind. Why? Simple. Kanye's a lunatic. It's like trying to have a normal conversation with a deranged street person. For those of us who are sick of the double standards, well suck it up. The left doesn't play fair, the never Trump crew are slimy grifters and the GOPe is useless as tits on a bull. If Trump gets nominated I'll vote for him ego,fuckups and all. Those of us who recognize the danger we're in can't form circular firing squads and do the lefts work for them

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (87Ur0)

498 I don't think the White House is Trump's real goal anymore, it's just to be the center of attention at all times.

Posted by: Hylian at November 29, 2022 04:01 PM (dpIbY)

You really are from 2016. Trump doesn't really want to be president. Kindly fuck off, dummy.

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (/HQcE)

499 Persian women are hawt.

Yes, yes they are. Many of them are a 10 at any business you care to name.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2022 04:10 PM

Used to work with one whose family fled in 1979. Smokin'. Heads would literally turn when she walked by.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 29, 2022 04:18 PM (Wnv9h)

500 Here we go - GOPe Narrative time! Republican prigs and pencil-necks swarming together to denounce Trump and assert that his unforgivable "Dinner with Ye" disqualifies him from running or serving.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (H8QX8)

501 It's easy if you listen to what he says, and not just what is reported.

I have watched his videos...he is a stone-cold Jew hater.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
==
Dildo's pretty solid. (no pun intended). If he says Fuetes is a jew hater, it cuts ice with me.

Posted by: I 'm not james woods but at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (59K7h)

502 485 So USA wins, but what? I can't make out what winning or losing does if you can play again

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (xhxe

You've never seen March Madness? Or the playoffs in the NFL, NBA, NHL, college football, or MLB?

Posted by: E. A. Blair at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (8o7em)

503 Jews are a big part, though really dropping Jewish religion for Leftism.

As I understand it, there is not a very large leap from modern Judaism to far left ideology, so its not a surprising move. Plus, at least part of modern Judaism is like a part of modern Christianity: basically leftist thought with religious trappings hung on it like a Christmas tree.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (cP/Ah)

504 The notion that you have to excise someone out of your life because they hold a view that you believe is awful is exactly what the left wants. It creates a world where everything is politicized, and little woke commissars are lurking at every dinner table.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 03:32 PM (wmDcS)

Of all the surprises I encountered in this sorry episode, the biggest one was Jon Stewart talking to Colbert about Ye/Chappelle/etc. I can't stand Stewart (generally, if *he's* advocating for a cause, I'm against it, no matter how 'nice' and bipartisan it looks), but he was approaching your take on socializing with people. More conversation, less cancellation. Not explicitly, mind you, but he all but talked around getting to this very point. I happen to agree with this take.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM (9miN6)

505 "read a fucking book
Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (C1Zwz"

The problem is that almost all those questioning the numbers never have. And if they did, they've read poorly sourced material they don't have the mental capacity to question or understand.

I have relatives who fought in WW II. They saw the worst mankind had to offer. But the ones who helped liberate the camps said more then anything that stuck with them.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (82U+n)

506 Denying the Holocaust is obviously intended to suggest that Jews are conning us about it. Who else could possbily have the motive to fake the Holocaust?

-
One insidious manifestation of denial is that it happened but it wasn't the Nazis. Specifically, Goering, Himmler, Heydrich et al, went behind Hitler's back to do it. The evidence is that the highest Nazi documented by his signature to be involved is Goering. So the Holocaust was a crime against the true Nazis rather than a crime of the Nazi.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (FVME7)

507 If nothing else you know no men are on the Iranian women's team if they even have one

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (xhxe8)

508 Milo - Coke and c*ck fiend
Fuentes - Irrelevant, possible/probable c*ck fiend
Kanye - Off meds/on wrong meds/needs more meds
Trump - ???

Posted by: Burt McCabe at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (41Ryu)

509 The problem is that almost all those questioning the numbers never have. And if they did, they've read poorly sourced material they don't have the mental capacity to question or understand.
==
Half the population is below average intelligence. There are still people who believe fire doesn't melt steel. I am not shitting you. That the moon landing was faked. Do not underestimate stupidity. The stoopid aren't the problem. Its the people who organize and weaponize the stupidity to hurt others. Its an op. And the minister of propaganda killed more people than anyone else.

Posted by: I 'm not james woods but at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (F0vmW)

510 Christopher I am not sure, Socialism certainly has a bit of wanting to spread the wealth, but hard Leftism is way off Jewish law. Leftists are a murdering bunch of bastards, ain't seeing that reading the Torah

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (xhxe8)

511 So the Holocaust was a crime against the true Nazis rather than a crime of the Nazi.
==
a variation on "true communism hasn't ever been tried".
yeah, there's not much difference between the nazi's and the commies - just Hugo Boss.

Posted by: I 'm not james woods but at November 29, 2022 04:27 PM (R/XSA)

512 Willowed again

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (xhxe8)

513 I hear this place is restricted, Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish, okay?

Posted by: Al Czervik at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (xttsV)

514 Unforced error by Trump. As Weft Cut Loop said, he will be the author of his own irrelevance.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at November 29, 2022 04:40 PM (ViC0A)

515 A Mexican Huwhite Supremacist is freinds with a Black rapping anti-Semite and people dont automitaclly start laughing?

Posted by: Fisht at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (ZRarh)

516 As a Christian my first thought was Jesus ate with tax collectors and sinners.

Jesus was condemned, and those who attacked Jesus were wrong.

Posted by: Goatweed at November 29, 2022 04:55 PM (0Q/6W)

517 "Kanye West hates Jewish people".... you're full of shit. YOU have no receipts to back this up. There's much more to West than your moronic speculation. Yes, "Ye" is erratic, but anyone who's heard his sentiments on this and more know full well this had nor has anything to do with hating anybody let alone Jews. What you've done is co-opt the leftist bullshit you claim to despise. And by the way, West's sentiments are CORRECT and backed by FACTS as are Kyrie Irving's.

Posted by: griff at November 29, 2022 05:03 PM (8PuN1)

518 Trump shouldn't say anything. Nobody cares about who Kanye brought to dinner. All this episode has shown is that the imbeciles in the GOPe try and use the same "Condemn & denounce!" playbook on anyone to their right that the Dems use on them.

Trump's political superpower is his shamelessness--i.e., his incapacity to be shamed into tap-dancing for the left. The GOPe still doesn't understand that its and Trump's respective responses to non-scandals like this are a big reason why GOP voters steadfastly support him and loathe them.

Posted by: Brock at November 29, 2022 05:04 PM (OpX6M)

519 A gay guy, a black guy and I assume a Hispanic guy are the faces of white supremacy? Who is running this psy-op?

Posted by: NCKate at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (0R0Vd)

520 Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 03:58 PM (C1Zwz)

William Shirer, in his book The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, settled at a figure of about 4.5 million. When I hear my denier friend talk about how six million is not the actual number, then I have to ask:
What is an acceptable number? Is 4.5 million more acceptable than 6 million?

And it was reported that Adolf Eichmann reveled in the fact that he was going down to his death having killed 5 or 6 million Jews. But what does he know, he was just one of the masterminds of the entire event.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 05:12 PM (I1HJV)

521 Trump shouldn't say anything. Nobody cares about who Kanye brought to dinner. All this episode has shown is that the imbeciles in the GOPe try and use the same "Condemn & denounce!" playbook on anyone to their right that the Dems use on them.

Posted by: Brock at November 29, 2022 05:04 PM (OpX6M)

Considering that Kanye did a major exclusive interview with Tucker Carlson a short time ago, the "we have to get behind McConnell/ Thune!" from Conservative Inc is not merely pathetic, it's eminently predictable.

And anyone still calling on "explanations" from Donald Trump is clearly unfamiliar with his chaotic style, which is unforgivable after at least six years of exposure to it at the national level.

Posted by: trev006 at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (igJSL)

522 508 Milo - Coke and c*ck fiend
Fuentes - Irrelevant, possible/probable c*ck fiend
Kanye - Off meds/on wrong meds/needs more meds
4: - ???
Trump - Profit!

Posted by: Burt McCabe at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (41Ryu)

Foxed

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 05:17 PM (I1HJV)

523 It's a big "so what"? to me. Trump met with crazy Kanye and a couple of Kanye's buddies, whom he did not know. And? I'd be more irritated (although still not very) if he had met with George W. Bush, a confirmed war criminal and traitor. Or Obama, a confirmed child abuser and war criminal and traitor. Or, or, or. Everyone outside of black America knows Kanye is a lunatic, limiting his influence to black America--which has zero power. So, who cares? Guilt by association is an accusation harmful to freedom of speech and freedom of association. Screw those who push it.

Posted by: Craken at November 29, 2022 05:21 PM (Wlx6n)

524 William Shirer, in his book The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, settled at a figure of about 4.5 million. When I hear my denier friend talk about how six million is not the actual number, then I have to ask:
What is an acceptable number? Is 4.5 million more acceptable than 6 million?
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If 4.5 million Jews were killed, then skepticism that the 6 million figure is overstated IS NOT "antisemitism".

And calling it "denial" would even be a worse stretch. It's another discussion entirely on what are our criteria for "acceptible".

But the taboo of "Holocaust denial" makes it operational to call somebody arguing for lower but perhaps more accurate numbers "denial" to people who want to play that game.A big part of today's problem is that perhaps we've never been that far above a "taboo society", but we're sinking back down. However, realization that we are a taboo society, makes the idealistic optimism against banning obscenity a little more problematic. The cynicism can clearly be seen by the number of Dems who ingested Marcuse at Columbia whose 50+ year plan was to shut conservative speech down all the while advocating a absolutist purism of "free speech".

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 05:34 PM (krQz2)

525 Well, if Pence, Romney, Blunt and the grand cucks and weaklings of the traitorous GOPe are upset then I too shall condemn Trump!
...just kidding. Fuuuuck them and anyone fueling this bullcrap. And fuck Ace for running with that "white supremacists" shit 😤.

Posted by: Fahk dis shite at November 29, 2022 05:35 PM (VBCiH)

526 Why can't we tolerate antisemitism?

We pride ourselves on freedom of speech and press and thought, which means we can consider all ideas and debate them openly, except that we definitely don't ever consider or debate ideas that are on the "Badthink" list?

This is EXACTLY the approach the left takes to everything right-wing. This is what the left does. This is what the thought control oligarchy uses to control the citizenry. Accepting this tactic means accepting everything they're doing to you.

"They". For whatever value of "they" you wish to fill in. We could discuss how correct some or other such fill-ins are. Are we allowed to?

Posted by: rold at November 29, 2022 06:05 PM (hj/M9)

527 Kanye just wants to get back in the good graces of the left and is taking the path of least resistance.

Posted by: Cynical Stoic at November 29, 2022 06:07 PM (0hHNz)

528 I'm sorry but I don't get this sensitivity. I'm a White guy from a rural poor community, and it is permissible to say anything that pops in your head negative about me. You can call me stupid, inbred, lazy and it goes on and on. Nobody will defend me or even care for that matter. I couldn't give a good fuck about anti-Antisemitism. That's my world every time I turn on the TV.

Posted by: DFCtomm at November 29, 2022 06:12 PM (OHy0b)

529 Why are people picking on ACE for wanting the truth to be said about the evils of the Holocaust and Nazi Germany? Who are you people, I don't even recognize most of these names.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:11 PM (cP/Ah)

++++

Every year a young Jewish director makes another Holocaust movie. We know that story better than we know any other tragedy that has ever happened in human history. There is no need for anymore Holocaust education. Let's talk about some of the other "Holocausts" that have happened. Those events and those people are just as worthy as the Jews to be remembered.

Posted by: DFCtomm at November 29, 2022 06:21 PM (OHy0b)

530 - Like 90% of the camps were liberated by the USSR (Bolsheviks). Yet, every American Simp has a dad or granddad who liberated the camps.
- zero mention of the close to 2 million Germans killed by Allies after the war. (Not including the rapes).
- zero mention of the Sackler Family being behind a literal genocide of Whites and other "goys". How many millions killed since 1996 from OxyContin and getting people so hooked in the rust belt they moved on to Heroin and Fent. At least closer to 2 million dead and millions more families ruined.
Shackler family gets zero prison and kept most of their billions.

I've read through books on Kabbalah, Talmud, Frankism, and other Anti-Christ religions because it's my duty as a Christian to be wise as a servant and gentle as a dove.
- I don't trust people who consider themselves to be the Chosen People which is code for the Master Race to rule over all the cattle aka goys.
- not going to even get into the lack of physical evidence to back the official numbers and Wooden Doors for gas chambers and Jack off machines and electric doors.
Maybe the Jews died in camps like Germans at home bc we bombed Germany to Death cutting off supply lines

Posted by: Hmmm... at November 29, 2022 06:37 PM (dI4uN)

531 . Let's talk about some of the other "Holocausts" that have happened. Those events and those people are just as worthy as the Jews to be remembered.

The Shoah Foundation also remembers the Rwandan genocide, there's a Holocaust remembrance org in Florida that regularly has speakers on the Holodomor, and another org, possible Shoah Foundation studies some genocide that occurred in Central America.

These are all on YouTube, it's not a big secret.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 06:45 PM (I1HJV)

532 Every year a young Jewish director makes another Holocaust movie. We know that story better than we know any other tragedy that has ever happened in human history. There is no need for anymore Holocaust education. Let's talk about some of the other "Holocausts" that have happened. Those events and those people are just as worthy as the Jews to be remembered.
Posted by: DFCtomm

Yes. How about at home how in 1996 the Sackler Famliy OxyContin targeted the White Rust Belt. How many millions died? How many millions lives destroyed? How many families ruined?
Weird how this isn't an issue and the Sacklers remain billionaires and free.
Or the heads of Pharma companies along with their tribe in media, government, Corporations, and NGOs pushing the Slab Jab.
Curious.

Posted by: Hmmm... at November 29, 2022 06:45 PM (dI4uN)

533 I know Trump takes a "No apologies" position, but I think it would be a good idea for him to explain. Like, he says he wanted to "help" Kanye

Your kidding, right!

And that’s f-king enough and you know it.

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 29, 2022 07:12 PM (t4poC)

534 These are all on YouTube, it's not a big secret.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 06:45 PM (I1HJV)

It's hardly the same as an annual major Hollywood release now is it? I would consider those an investment in mud. They allow people like you to muddy the water.

Posted by: DFCtomm at November 29, 2022 07:19 PM (OHy0b)

535 It's hardly the same as an annual major Hollywood release now is it

Could you cite the last three annual major Hollywood releases directed by young Jewish men with the Holocaust as the subject? I would like to view them and can't find them on IMDB.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 08:59 PM (I1HJV)

536 Christopher I am not sure, Socialism certainly has a bit of wanting to spread the wealth, but hard Leftism is way off Jewish law. Leftists are a murdering bunch of bastards, ain't seeing that reading the Torah
Posted by: Skip's phone

Try the Talmud, Skip.
Marxism/Communism is literally Rabbinical Talmudism. Marx and I'm almost positive had Rabbis for dads.
Did you know that Russia had the most stable currency in the world for 200 years until the Communist Revolution in Russia.

Not addressed specifically to Skip, but why would non Jews be a Zionistists, which is basically forced upon Americans to do business, when Zionism is a Ultra Nationalist Ethno-Religious Ideology. It's Jewish Supremacism (Chosen Ones).
Non Jews being Zionists Is literally the skit from Dave Chappelle being a blind black KKK member.

Posted by: It's true at November 29, 2022 09:45 PM (dI4uN)

537 The Democrats hate antisemites but happily welcome Ilhan Omar, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters and a sizeable chunk of the Cogressional Black Caucus to their table...

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