The FBI Offered Disgraced Stooge of Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska, Christopher Steele, $1 Million if He Could Prove That His "Dossier" Claim Were True.<br>The Very Generous Bounty Remains Uncollected.

The FBI Offered Disgraced Stooge of Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska, Christopher Steele, $1 Million if He Could Prove That His "Dossier" Claim Were True.
The Very Generous Bounty Remains Uncollected.

Hey FBI -- if I float you a theory about my political enemies, who will be Democrats and neocons, will you offer me a million dollar bounty to dig up the proof for that theory, or nah?

Nah, right?

That's how desperate the FBI was to prove the "dossier" was true, which they knew was paid for by Hillary Clinton: They were offering a one million dollar cash prize for proof.

But no proof was ever produced.

Because this Russian-agent c*nt made it all up.

This came out on the first day of the obstruction of justice trial of Igor "Iggy" Danchenko, Christopher Steele's actual Russian source, a do-nothing, know-nothing fuckboy alcoholic working for the Clinton-connected Brookings Institute and openly coveting a spot in the would-be Clinton Administration.

Shortly before the 2016 election, the FBI offered retired British spy Christopher Steele "up to $1 million" to prove the explosive allegations in his dossier about Donald Trump, a senior FBI analyst testified Tuesday.
The cash offer was made during an October 2016 meeting between Steele and several top FBI officials who were trying to corroborate Steele's claims that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia to win the election.
FBI supervisory analyst Brian Auten testified that Steele never got the money because he could not "prove the allegations."

This is the scumbag leftwinger who was assigned to both the Russiagate probe -- he was handing out one million dollar bounties for October Surprises that would sink Trump -- and the Hunter Biden laptop case -- he claimed that it was all Russian Disinformation, which of course resulted in his fellow FBI officials tell the social media companies to clamp down on stories about it.

Auten also said Steele refused to provide the names of any of his sources during that meeting, and that Steele didn't give the FBI anything during that meeting that corroborated the claims in his explosive dossier.
Auten was testifying at the criminal trial of Igor Danchenko, a primary source for Steele's dossier, who is being prosecuted by special counsel John Durham. Danchenko has pleaded not guilty to lying to the FBI.

So the FBI knew that all the claims in the Steele "Dossier" were a worthless pile of claims with no proof behind them, with Steele not even willing to disclose his "sources."

Which were all Iggy Danchenko, a Washington, DC resident and chronic drunk.

But guess what they did anyway?

Aaron Mate
@aaronjmate
Steele-FBI meeting [with offer of $1 million bounty for proof] was on October 3 2016. FBI's first surveillance warrant on Carter Page was then filed on Oct. 21.
This means that after the FBI offered Steele $1 million to prove his dossier -- which he couldn't -- FBI filed a surveillance warrant based on the dossier anyway.

Even if you object that they would give Steele more than 18 days to prove his "dossier" -- what about the next re-authorization, which came three months after that? And the next one, three months after that? And the next one, three months after that?

Posted by: Ace at 12:06 PM

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1
The FBI. These guys are the Keystone Cops with armor.

Posted by: portlandon at October 12, 2022 12:07 PM (+oR7L)

2 At the risk of sounding quaintly naive, doesn't Congress have to authorize such expenditures?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 12, 2022 12:07 PM (ayzS/)

3 dossier

Posted by: That guy who always says dossier... at October 12, 2022 12:08 PM (Xrfse)

4 Is being a c*until worse than being a d*ick?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:09 PM (eGTCV)

5 Top. Men.

Posted by: Catherine at October 12, 2022 12:09 PM (ZSsrh)

6 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: guy who always says nothing will happen at October 12, 2022 12:09 PM (duPAA)

7 Breitbart did the same thing with the Congress liars who claimed they were called racial insults. His motive was to prove they were liars, which of course they were. The FBI idiots actually thought they'd get something by offering money.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 12, 2022 12:09 PM (ayzS/)

8 At the risk of sounding quaintly naive, doesn't Congress have to authorize such expenditures?

Yes...and the system worked!

Posted by: Congress at October 12, 2022 12:09 PM (Q14hI)

9 They got the million from the petty cash jar...

Posted by: gourmand du jour, partly cloudy, clearing in the afternoon at October 12, 2022 12:10 PM (jTmQV)

10 FBI supervisory analyst Brian Auten testified that Steele never got the money because he could not "prove the allegations."

But they are still serious allegations!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:10 PM (9BfnT)

11 Good Afternoon.

Fuck all these assholes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 12:10 PM (M9FHm)

12 Weird. All those times Wray testified before the Congress this never came up.

Posted by: Pat Summeral at October 12, 2022 12:10 PM (vN+oL)

13 Archimedes, considering the size of the slush funds these ham-n-eggers "handle," this one can't be pinned on the useless idiots in Congress.

Posted by: Catherine at October 12, 2022 12:10 PM (ZSsrh)

14 The Very Generous Bounty Remains Uncollected.

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This is just proof that Trump hid the evidence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:10 PM (LvTSG)

15 C'mon Ace, they had to run a 'color revolution' within our own borders for once to protect their Chinese and Ukrainian paymasters...

Posted by: Danimal28 at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM (klw0w)

16 If I were some kind of conspiracy theorist I'd begin to think that the FBI was just a teeny bit corrupt.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM (zhLdt)

17 But, but, but McCain said it was true!

A shame to bring this up during McCain's funeral.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM (BNx6n)

18 The Deep State was desperate to keep PDT out of office, then, after they failed, turned every single agency against President Trump, and when that was only marginally successful, the PTB organized a fake election.

One has to ask themselves why the Junta went to so much trouble.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM (5pTK/)

19 How much for a laptop that has a ton of hard evidence about a president sold out to China or anyone that brings the money?

"nah, we already have all that"

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM (Cus5s)

20 What hump?

Posted by: Igor Danchenko at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM (63Dwl)

21 Hey everyone! Just got back from eye surgery. Basically, they make an incision, flush out all the goo, and replace it. Believe it or not, it’s not as fun as it sounds.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM (u73oe)

22 So Ace, are you implying a smidgeon of corruption within our incorruptible premier state police agency?

/Allah's butt boy

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 12:12 PM (QSjkU)

23 The million would come out of civil forfeiture money. That's why they steal the contents of people's safety deposit boxes.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at October 12, 2022 12:12 PM (7gEpo)

24 Is everyone in the FBI the smoking man from X-Files?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:12 PM (eGTCV)

25 Of course it was all fiction

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 12, 2022 12:12 PM (VjaIJ)

26 At least fake fisa warrants aren't as deadly as bullshit arrest warrants that end up killing women and children...

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (53oGX)

27 With Bidenflation, they better offer me $20 million in 2024.

Posted by: Christopher Steele at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (FJYfm)

28 wow- looks like the FBI might not be on the up and up

Posted by: DB at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (geLO8)

29 Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM

Cataracts?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (yMu1v)

30 FBI supervisory analyst Brian Auten

I read that as "Brian Stelter" at first. Which would be much funnier.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (ZGrMX)

31 Even if you object that they would give Steele more than 18 days to prove his "dossier" -- what about the next re-authorization, which came three months after that? And the next one, three months after that? And the next one, three months after that?

That's easy... we got an authorization to spy on Trump so, obviously, there's a need to spy on Trump.

Judge: Makes sense to me.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (zhLdt)

32 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

33 will you offer me a million dollar bounty to dig up the proof for that theory, or nah?

If it were true, delivering the proof he used would only cost $30 for a DHL delivery.

But I think they were after the construction of a path of sources dead-ending in Russia, obscuring their involvement.

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (GMLOL)

34 When DJT become Prez again, it will be interesting to see what he does with the FIBs.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM (w9Wax)

35 This is disgraceful. We will only give the FBI a 90% budget increase, not the 100% they asked for.

- GOPe

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM (sX1BW)

36 The FBI must be destroyed.
All agents must become unemployed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM (V6f9+)

37 The FBI. These guys are the Keystone Cops with armor.
Posted by: portlandon at October 12, 2022 12:07 PM (+oR7L)

The Keystone Cops failed. Who's parked his ass in the White House?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM (zhLdt)

38 Yet Comey still "discussed" it with Trump in order to give CNN the hook they needed to release it. And now we know why CNN needed the hook. Even they knew it was bullshit from the beginning, but the fact that Comey discussed it was enough to make it newsworthy regardless of whether the contents were verified.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM (9BfnT)

39 Now, some of you might think there is no possible explanation of the FBI knowingly lying to the FISA Court in the Carter Page request, based (as it was) on these ridiculous fantasies.

Haha! You see, the FISA Court DID. NOT. CARE.

The judges were as hopeful as the people running the FBI that we...ooppsie! ...I mean "the investigators" could find something on Trump that would stick.

Posted by: John Durham at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM (AIlbQ)

40 Did the FBI offer a million clams for proof of Hillary's corruption?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM (QSjkU)

41 I'm also open to abolishing the CIA and the NSA.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM (V6f9+)

42 And crickets from the "media".

Posted by: It's me donna at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (bs+z0)

43 Evidence? Proof? Who needs that shit? We've got allegations!

Posted by: BignJames at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (AwYPR)

44 The Deep State was desperate to keep PDT out of office, then, after they failed, turned every single agency against President Trump, and when that was only marginally successful, the PTB organized a fake election.

One has to ask themselves why the Junta went to so much trouble.

They thought Hillary would easily win in 2016 and then declare the US a Communist country and void the Constitution. They're big mad that that didn't happen, so now they're punitively trying to destroy the country on the way down.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (ZGrMX)

45 Cataracts?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (yMu1v)

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Vitrectomy. Hopefully the last surgery to fix detached retina.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (u73oe)

46
FBI's been raiding the residences of 50-80 year olds who sing Church songs at Abortion clinics.

Of course they're pointing "assault rifles" at their families including children.

Such a brave, honorable bunch the FBI.

Posted by: portlandon at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (+oR7L)

47 This reminds me, I wonder what happened to the $10k that the FIB gave George Papa ?

Did they ask for it back, that whole story was creepy

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (M+Lyo)

48 For anyone that grew up in the 90s or earlier and still retains the agility of free thought, it's almost impossible to believe the reality we are currently living in.

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (NjAfK)

49 When DJT become Prez again, it will be interesting to see what he does with the FIBs.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks

Nothing. Arbitrary and Capricious.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (9BfnT)

50 As has been noted, the Coup wasn't complex, what was done and who the actors were has been largely understood for nearly a decade at this point. the fact that the ball has not been advanced beyond Chicken F**king the Steele Dossier is f**king absurd.

I can't wait for the not guilty verdicts to come in, Durham closes up shop in disgrace, and gambols off into an ignominious retirement.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (up/3i)

51 The FBI must be destroyed.
All agents must become unemployed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM

Or Americans will become annoyed.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (yMu1v)

52 I'm also open to abolishing the CIA and the NSA.

The CIA installed Zelensky, so I'm open to sending all of them to Ukraine to fight their own damn war.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (ZGrMX)

53 This is hard to believe, next you'll be telling me the founder of the FBI wore dresses.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (L08P2)

54 44 They thought Hillary would easily win in 2016 and then declare the US a Communist country and void the Constitution. They're big mad that that didn't happen, so now they're punitively trying to destroy the country on the way down.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (ZGrMX)

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Get Garland (or someone worse) on SCOTUS to replace Scalia in 2017, and in two years the 2nd Amendment is considered unconstitutional.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

55 Top. Corrupt. Men.

Sadly, I doubt any future president will ever disband these assclowns.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:16 PM (VWp7G)

56 6 Nothing will happen.
Posted by: guy who always says nothing will happen at October 12, 2022 12:09 PM (duPAA)

You aren't wrong, though

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (pwExq)

57 Half surprised they just didn't just pay him anyway then claiming it's real because they paid him.

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (VjaIJ)

58 —————Vitrectomy. Hopefully the last surgery to fix detached retina.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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This has been a long pull. Just lie there and follow drs. orders. Prayers up.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (e72DJ)

59 Could you imagine what Trump could have accomplished if he only had to fight the DNC?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (9BfnT)

60 "For anyone that grew up in the 90s or earlier and still retains the agility of free thought, it's almost impossible to believe the reality we are currently living in." - "....."

Yep.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (OTzUX)

61 The requirement of "proof" is a construct of the white cishet patriarchy.

//Trigglypuff

Posted by: sven at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (Lzpvj)

62 Vitrectomy. Hopefully the last surgery to fix detached retina.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM

Ah.

*nods sagely*

Definitely less fun.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (yMu1v)

63 Christopher Steele does not have the first-rate investigative skills of his father Remington.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (dxllA)

64 >>>FBI's been raiding the residences of 50-80 year olds who sing Church songs at Abortion clinics.

Of course they're pointing "assault rifles" at their families including children.

Truly heroes among us. Now get watching the networks for another terrific episode of The FBI!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (VWp7G)

65 Wish I had a million dollars.

Posted by: dantesed at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (yxd4b)

66 The Deep State was desperate to keep PDT out of office, then, after they failed, turned every single agency against President Trump, and when that was only marginally successful, the PTB organized a fake election.

One has to ask themselves why the Junta went to so much trouble.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM (5pTK/)

Lots of people will say it's because of the money but I think it's because Trump went after child sex trafficking. Something which, I believe, Biden ended as soon as he got sworn in.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (zhLdt)

67 So, the FBI was going to pay a foreign operative US Tax dollars, for dirt on a Politician?

So, just how many regulations, and laws, does THAT break?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (oHd/0)

68 52 I'm also open to abolishing the CIA and the NSA.

The CIA installed Zelensky, so I'm open to sending all of them to Ukraine to fight their own damn war.
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Well, they have the tactical gear and weapons. Good idea.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (D8mow)

69 "What would you say...you do here?"

You're the freaking FBI. You're in everybody's business. YOU find the proof. YOU verify.

Unless, of course, you knew you couldn't...

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (GMLOL)

70 I can't wait for the not guilty verdicts to come in, Durham closes up shop in disgrace, and gambols off into an ignominious retirement.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 12:15 PM (up/3i)

This is exactly right, except for the disgrace and ignominious part.

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (pwExq)

71 19 How much for a laptop that has a ton of hard evidence about a president sold out to China or anyone that brings the money?

"nah, we already have all that"
Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2022 12:11 PM

In fact, we might pay 1 million if you can help STOP the spread of that information!

Posted by: FBI and CIA, influencing MSM and others at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (kL9Oc)

72 Call me when just one head rolls. One.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (Zz0t1)

73 Ok, hate the hash so I will shut up

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (VjaIJ)

74 The FBI Offered Disgraced Stooge of Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska, Christopher Steele, $1 Million if He Could Prove That His "Dossier" Claim Were True.
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A million dollars and he still couldn't manufacture evidence the FBI would have taken in a New York Second as legit?

Fucking poser.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 12, 2022 12:19 PM (BFigT)

75 Christopher Steele does not have the first-rate investigative skills of his father Remington.

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His partner's aren't as attractive either.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:19 PM (sX1BW)

76 Get Garland (or someone worse) on SCOTUS to replace Scalia in 2017, and in two years the 2nd Amendment is considered unconstitutional.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

Serious question, no glowie.. they really try to take guns.
I mean, that'd have to do it, right?

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at October 12, 2022 12:19 PM (53oGX)

77 With all this BS going on, I'm really surprised there aren't dozens of bodies floating in the Potomac.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:19 PM (anj39)

78 65 Wish I had a million dollars.
Posted by: dantesed at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (yxd4b)

You will have. At the rate things are going, a weeks groceries will soon cost you a mil.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 12:19 PM (QSjkU)

79 Golden opportunity here for us to collect some cash$$$$

Can't some of us here cook up some BS and collect? My idea so I want a cut!

Ok, let's get started on how the dossier is true.......

Posted by: JROD at October 12, 2022 12:20 PM (0jZnq)

80 DJT should proceed with his proposal to buy Greenland, just as a place for the storage of ex FBI agents.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:20 PM (eGTCV)

81 Exile them to Ukraine or Hungary.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 12, 2022 12:20 PM (e72DJ)

82 Lots of people will say it's because of the money but I think it's because Trump went after child sex trafficking. Something which, I believe, Biden ended as soon as he got sworn in.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (zhLdt)

The Deep State saw Trump as an existential threat, because he had Gen. Flynn, in insider, in his corner. They were not able to get Trump, but they sure got Flynn, which sent a signal to everyone in DC, NOT to help Trump.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:20 PM (oHd/0)

83 It really takes some real stick-to-tive-ness to achieve this level of incompetence our intelligence services have obtained.

There should be some sort of lifetime achievement award we could give them. I suggest a long rope and a short drop.

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2022 12:20 PM (gmo/4)

84 Serious question, no glowie.. they really try to take guns.
I mean, that'd have to do it, right?
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at October 12, 2022 12:19 PM (53oGX)

Of course not. Don't take the bait!

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (pwExq)

85 Seems that Page has a good claim against fibbers and doj for civil rights violations under color of law.

Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Ed8Zd)

86 Serious question, no glowie.. they really try to take guns.
I mean, that'd have to do it, right?

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But why do they have to take the guns? They are having success with overpowering the armed citizenry just fine.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (sX1BW)

87 This came out on the first day of the obstruction of justice trial of Igor "Iggy" Danchenko, Christopher Steele's actual Russian source, a do-nothing, know-nothing fuckboy alcoholic working for the Clinton-connected Brookings Institute and openly coveting a spot in the would-be Clinton Administration.

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Sounds like an ideal Attorney General and/or SCOTUS pick for a future Hunter Biden regime..

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (m0AHL)

88 Get Garland (or someone worse) on SCOTUS to replace Scalia in 2017, and in two years the 2nd Amendment is considered unconstitutional.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

The original vote to ratify the 2nd in VA statehouse was flawed and therefore the entire amendment is void.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (9BfnT)

89 65 Wish I had a million dollars.
Posted by: dantesed at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (yxd4b)

A year ago, I did.... Now? I don't... due to Biden's war on our economy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (oHd/0)

90 SO

the FBI 'buys' evidence

Posted by: DB at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (geLO8)

91 A million dollars? I can make shit up for half that.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (u73oe)

92 So Durham's done after this, correct?

He's the one with the sterling public corruption prosecution record, I believe.

Am I correct that his special counsel tenure will have involved Zero indictments of any public officials?

Because while idiotic clowns like Danchenko and that lawyer who was OJ-acquitted by DC-area jury nullification should be convicted and punished, I'm gonna guess that the main point here was the *official* corruption. So Durham will wrap up not having mussed the hair of one public official?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (OTzUX)

93 Ok, hate the hash so I will shut up
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (VjaIJ)

There's nothing wrong with vaj.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)

94 81 Exile them to Ukraine or Hungary.
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Only if you drop their pay to Ukrainian and Hungarian levels. Otherwise, they will be living it up Hunter style with hookers and blow. Ukraine has some very nice hookers.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (D8mow)

95 85 Seems that Page has a good claim against fibbers and doj for civil rights violations under color of law.
Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Ed8Zd)

You might think so, but the court dismissed his case.

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (pwExq)

96
Gasoline rationing begins in France. There's been some big refinery strikes going on, and the govt. is drawing up plans to "requisition" workers. That is, force workers to work at gunpoint.

Just watched a compilation video of fist fights breaking out at gas stations, and one keystone cop moment of a bunch of gendarmes having to push a police van which ran out of gas.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (Mzdiz)

97 Did they at least offer the $1M Austen Power's Style?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJR1H5tf5wE

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

98 Why is the FBI so afraid of people who pray and sing hymns?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (eGTCV)

99 A Bounty? Too bad some of the "honest" Fibbers didn't mutiny.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (Lr5+Z)

100 Xipe- please don’t use Hillary and clam in the same post

Posted by: Kratwurst at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (nIRE6)

101 So it was the Deep state and Democrats that colluded with Russians. We have known that all along but when will the Media ask Wray or Hildebeast about this crime against America?

I will not hold my breath.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (haWye)

102 89 65 Wish I had a million dollars.
Posted by: dantesed at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (yxd4b)

A year ago, I did.... Now? I don't... due to Biden's war on our economy.
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Yep. Obama did that to my portfolio as well.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (D8mow)

103 >>Wish I had a million dollars.

Wouldn't you rather have a monkey?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)

104 Wish I had a million dollars.
Posted by: dantesed at October 12, 2022 12:18 PM (yxd4b)

Would you settle for a $1 billion Zimbabwean bill? I've got one.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (ptqGC)

105 76 Serious question, no glowie.. they really try to take guns.
I mean, that'd have to do it, right?
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at October 12, 2022 12:19 PM (53oGX)

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I think gun control is largely failure theater on the part of Democrats. They know it's impossible to actually attain it, but that doesn't mean that they don't have the desire to make it happen...somehow. That's a slow walk through the institutions thing, and they're very far from trying to make it happen in reality.

Doesn't mean they're not willing to take small victories where they can to get things moving, but mostly gun control is just a fundraising ploy. Still, a progressive SCOTUS declaring the 2nd Amendment unconstitutional would be that kind of step.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

106 > Ok, hate the hash so I will shut up

vajayjay?

Posted by: DB at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (geLO8)

107 Why is the FBI so afraid of people who pray and sing hymns?

Because they're working for Stan. And I don't mean the guy from the Eminem song.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (ZGrMX)

108 Is everyone in the FBI the smoking man from X-Files?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:12 PM (eGTCV)

I bet his picture is in a lot of cubicles.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (anj39)

109 103 >>Wish I had a million dollars.

Wouldn't you rather have a monkey?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)

He makes a persuasive argument.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (eYoxG)

110 96
Gasoline rationing begins in France. There's been some big refinery strikes going on, and the govt. is drawing up plans to "requisition" workers. That is, force workers to work at gunpoint.

Just watched a compilation video of fist fights breaking out at gas stations, and one keystone cop moment of a bunch of gendarmes having to push a police van which ran out of gas.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (Mzdiz)

Eat your beans. They give plenty of gas.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (ynpvh)

111 I am pro gun control, for the damn government that is.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (QSjkU)

112 Gasoline rationing begins in France.

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This should be a great step forward for all liberal voters everywhere. They have consistently voted to be entirely in favor of eliminating any use of "fossile" fuels. There should be no complaints from anyone who has ever voted for a green politician.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (sX1BW)

113 88 The original vote to ratify the 2nd in VA statehouse was flawed and therefore the entire amendment is void.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (9BfnT)

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Also the 4th Amendment. People need to house soldiers now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

114 >>You might think so, but the court dismissed his case.

And he's refiled thanks to new evidence coming to light.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (ZLI7S)

115 LASue, forget the details, but Page's suit was dismissed not long ago, right? As always with such things, details and the actual substance of the action (merits, or process) matter. But I think as of today Page is left there with nothing to show, having been absurdly slandered and abused by these really stupid clowns. Which also describes Trump and tens of millions of Americans, in effect.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (OTzUX)

116 98 Why is the FBI so afraid of people who pray and sing hymns?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (eGTCV)

That if enough people shout with joy to the Lord, Washington DC will crumble to the ground.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (ynpvh)

117 @70

>>This is exactly right, except for the disgrace and ignominious part.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, Durham has achieved disgrace and ignominy in certain circles.

He's a clown, Barr's a clown, everybody up and down the chain in the LE/IC apparatus a f**king clowns, dangerous too.

Which is why nobody paying the price for the coup is a pretty f**king big deal.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (up/3i)

118 The FBI must be destroyed.
All agents must become unemployed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Disagree. (strongly). That will become the political fight of the century, and FBI supporters will come out of the woodwork. It'll be the central accomplishment of the Trump2 "The Reckoning" presidency, but it will be the only accomplishment, because of the time it will take.

Instead, use Executive Branch authority and SWIFTLY. Move all senior people from all over the country, along with every single agent who participated in political raids to Arizona. Liase there with the outnumbered and overworked Border Patrol. Put all 7th floor people, in fact all Hoover Building people, along with the Agents in Charge from around the country on EMERGENCY walk-the-border duty.

When the cartels are no longer a threat, Trump should promise, they will all get promotions and medals. The thanks of a grateful nation.

But, until then, they walk. Every day. Unarmed, because we wouldn't want them to hurt any poor refugees. Give them a water bottle, comfortable boots and the reassurance that their health will really benefit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (HXSsV)

119 Page had no standing to sue for injuries caused to page. He also sued in the wrong jurisdiction, and, uh, some other legal technicalities, whatever. Dismissed!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (9BfnT)

120 The CIA installed Zelensky, so I'm open to sending all of them to Ukraine to fight their own damn war.
Posted by: Ian S.

You know there are 86000 IRS agents that are read to go help over there, right?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (ID+Qb)

121 Gasoline rationing begins in France. There's been some big refinery strikes going on, and the govt. is drawing up plans to "requisition" workers. That is, force workers to work at gunpoint.

Forcing people to operate machinery that's always at a high risk of blowing up an entire city block at gunpoint seems like a bad idea to me.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (ZGrMX)

122 I want a million dollars. And a pony.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (u73oe)

123 Aha, and JackStraw with the factoids, voiding my last. Glad to hear Page's efforts are still alive.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (OTzUX)

124 96
Gasoline rationing begins in France. There's been some big refinery strikes going on, and the govt. is drawing up plans to "requisition" workers. That is, force workers to work at gunpoint.

Just watched a compilation video of fist fights breaking out at gas stations, and one keystone cop moment of a bunch of gendarmes having to push a police van which ran out of gas.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (Mzdiz)

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Ooo...things gonna get sporty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

125 I think gun control is largely failure theater on the part of Democrats. They know it's impossible to actually attain it, but that doesn't mean that they don't have the desire to make it happen...somehow. That's a slow walk through the institutions thing, and they're very far from trying to make it happen in reality.

Doesn't mean they're not willing to take small victories where they can to get things moving, but mostly gun control is just a fundraising ploy. Still, a progressive SCOTUS declaring the 2nd Amendment unconstitutional would be that kind of step.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

Gun control is actually one of the few areas the Democrats have lost ground on balance over the last 50 years or so. Abortion too perhaps soon enough, though if we netted abortion extremism in blue states and rollbacks in redstates maybe it's a wash.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (eYoxG)

126 Because while idiotic clowns like Danchenko and that lawyer who was OJ-acquitted by DC-area jury nullification should be convicted and punished, I'm gonna guess that the main point here was the *official* corruption. So Durham will wrap up not having mussed the hair of one public official?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (OTzUX)

Hey! He filed an "information" on Clinesmith, History's Greatest Monster. He got 12 months of probation!

Hair status though: unmussed.

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (pwExq)

127 76
Serious question, no glowie.. they really try to take guns.
I mean, that'd have to do it, right?
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at October 12, 2022 12:19 PM

No door to door seizures...too risky. They play the long game. Outlaw, restrict sale and manufacture, reduce appeal and acceptance to the general public. Make it super risky to own a firearm, because it will be illegal in some manner. Then, if you're arrested for any other issue, even minor, when they search your home and FIND the weapons, you're suddenly in jail with a 10 year minimum felony.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (kL9Oc)

128 60 "For anyone that grew up in the 90s or earlier and still retains the agility of free thought, it's almost impossible to believe the reality we are currently living in." - "....."

Yep.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:17 PM (OTzUX)

I spent a career, the most productive years of my life, defending this country from foreign enemies... to have the Constitution destroyed by domestic enemies.

I can't describe how betrayed, and disgusted, I feel.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (oHd/0)

129 Exiles receive no pay.
Exile is deportation with humiliation bonus.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (e72DJ)

130 100 Xipe- please don’t use Hillary and clam in the same post

Posted by: Kratwurst at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (nIRE6)

Is squid's beak better?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (ynpvh)

131 I'm open to reducing the feral gvt by 90% and keeping it there for a minimum of 5 years, then reassessing to see if further reductions are needed.

Posted by: AK at work at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (o+IHV)

132 Wish I had a million dollars.

Wouldn't you rather have a monkey?

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Or a llama or an emu?

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (sX1BW)

133 Seems that Page has a good claim against fibbers and doj for civil rights violations under color of law.
Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Ed8Zd)

You might think so, but the court dismissed his case.
Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2022 12:22 P

I just looked that up. You’re right. But it sounds like an appeal or refilling against different defendants (based on the judges order and new evidence ) might be the way to go.

Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (Ed8Zd)

134 Cataracts?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 12, 2022 12:13 PM (yMu1v)

I prefer Rinkon, loundeye.

Posted by: Asian man punchline at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (FCbAQ)

135 People must provide quarters for armed IRS agents in their homes, and free WiFi.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:26 PM (9BfnT)

136 Just watched a compilation video of fist fights breaking out at gas stations, and one keystone cop moment of a bunch of gendarmes having to push a police van which ran out of gas.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (Mzdiz)
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What a perfect ad for the Republicans.
Just show the cops pushing the police van. The voice over, "Thanks to Joe Biden and the Democrats, this is coming to your town soon."

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:26 PM (anj39)

137 125 Gun control is actually one of the few areas the Democrats have lost ground on balance over the last 50 years or so. Abortion too perhaps soon enough, though if we netted abortion extremism in blue states and rollbacks in redstates maybe it's a wash.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (eYoxG)

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Can't forget that 2 million new guns have been purchased by Americans every month for the past several years.

"Take their guns!" is red meat for rich progressives to donate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:26 PM (LvTSG)

138 >>>Seems that Page has a good claim against fibbers and doj for civil rights violations under color of law.
Posted by: LASue

In this administration? Not bloody likely.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:26 PM (VWp7G)

139 If I had a cool name like Igor, no way would I let people call me Iggy.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at October 12, 2022 12:26 PM (24fqN)

140 111 I am pro gun control, for the damn government that is.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (QSjkU)

I'm pro gun control. That's why everybody should go to the range and practice.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

141 122 I want a million dollars. And a pony.
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Keep digging. Both of them are somewhere at the bottom of this shithole.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (D8mow)

142 113 88 The original vote to ratify the 2nd in VA statehouse was flawed and therefore the entire amendment is void.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:21 PM (9BfnT)
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Also the 4th Amendment. People need to house soldiers now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

I thought that was the 3rd?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

143 Math problem of the day:

If we mount a cross every fifty feet, how long a stretch of the beltway will be required to hoist the entire Deep State bureacracy, and their hangers-on in the Propaganda Press (plus, pedophile NeverTrumpers)?

Show your work.

Posted by: Sulla at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (KcPPs)

144 You keep gun, it's legal, but the trigger mechanism has been deemed inappropriate because of the file sear ability. You give trigger now.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (e72DJ)

145 Forcing people to operate machinery that's always at a high risk of blowing up an entire city block at gunpoint seems like a bad idea to me.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (ZGrMX)

We became the greatest oil exporting nation in the world doing that. -- Venezuela

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (zhLdt)

146 142 Also the 4th Amendment. People need to house soldiers now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

I thought that was the 3rd?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

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*shrugs*

Does it even matter anymore?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (LvTSG)

147 This should be a great step forward for all liberal voters everywhere. They have consistently voted to be entirely in favor of eliminating any use of "fossile" fuels. There should be no complaints from anyone who has ever voted for a green politician.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:23 PM (

You misunderstood, they voted for green politicians so that you don't get to use fossil fuels, not them.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (IP9GB)

148 135 People must provide quarters for armed IRS agents in their homes, and free WiFi.
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Shallow graves in the backyard?

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (D8mow)

149
Zero out the budgets for the FBI, the CIA and the NSA. Let's see how well subsistence living works for them.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (pNxlR)

150 Gasoline rationing begins in France.

Damn. Next thing you know there will be B-17s flying overhead on their way to bomb the ball bearing factories in Schweinfurt.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (anj39)

151 24 Is everyone in the FBI the smoking man from X-Files?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:12 PM (eGTCV)

The Smoking Man is dead.

Posted by: The Buffalo Bills at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (cupoy)

152 If I had a cool name like Igor, no way would I let people call me Iggy.
Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at October 12, 2022 12:26 PM (24fqN)

There was a young woman at the pub yesterday who'd name is Nikita. I assume she's a ruthless assassin.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (eGTCV)

153 It really takes some real stick-to-tive-ness to achieve this level of incompetence our intelligence services have obtained.

There should be some sort of lifetime achievement award we could give them. I suggest a long rope and a short drop.

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2022 12:20 PM (gmo/4)
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When Cultural Marxism is correctly viewed as a religious cult, and their stick-to-tive-ness correctly viewed as a Terminator-like laser-focus on & zeal for destruction & death, they're literally zealots.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (m0AHL)

154 Gun control is actually one of the few areas the Democrats have lost ground on balance over the last 50 years or so. Abortion too perhaps soon enough, though if we netted abortion extremism in blue states and rollbacks in redstates maybe it's a wash.

Purely on polling, support for abortion has steadily declined since the 1990s. That's the reason the DNC is trying to make fetch happen with the hilariously insipid slogan "Roe Roe Roe Your Vote".

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (ZGrMX)

155 151 24 Is everyone in the FBI the smoking man from X-Files?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:12 PM (eGTCV)

The Smoking Man is dead.
Posted by: The Buffalo Bills at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (cupoy)

And the FBI needs to be too.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 12, 2022 12:29 PM (N39Ws)

156 132 Wish I had a million dollars.

Wouldn't you rather have a monkey?
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Or a llama or an emu?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:25 PM (sX1BW)

Llamas spit everywhere and emus eat everything...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:29 PM (ynpvh)

157 If Trump gets back in office -
Auten: here's all the shady stuff Thibault did
Thibault: here's all the shady stuff Auten did

Auten and Thibault: you can't prosecute us, we are whistleblowers!

Judge Tine E Bubbles: Judgement in favor of the FBI whistleblowers and all around good guys, prosecution is retaliatory and therefore cause for impeachment.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 12, 2022 12:29 PM (fs1hN)

158 Math problem of the day:

If we mount a cross every fifty feet, how long a stretch of the beltway will be required to hoist the entire Deep State bureacracy, and their hangers-on in the Propaganda Press (plus, pedophile NeverTrumpers)?

Show your work.
Posted by: Sulla at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (KcPPs)
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Outer loop or inner loop...or both?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:29 PM (anj39)

159 Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 12, 2022 12:24 PM (HXSsV)

^^I'm liking this plan except that how do we keep these criminals for JOINING in with the cartels? We would have to make sure they are spread out along the border and unable to communicate with each other. Don't trust them ONE bit.

Posted by: Iris at October 12, 2022 12:29 PM (foa6+)

160 Surprised that Ace linked to a CNN article here. Anyone see the "Durham debunks a prolific Trump lie" section header, saying the 'Trump lie' that Durham debunked was that the FBI launched the investigation due to the Steele dossier, instead saying "the probe was launched after the US government got intelligence from a friendly country that a Trump campaign aide had bragged to one of its diplomats that the Russians had offered to help Trump beat Hillary Clinton". Wasn't this "diplomat" FBI plant Stefan Halper, whom neither Carter Page nor George Papadopoulos actually said anything incriminating to?

Posted by: bearski at October 12, 2022 12:30 PM (Bhsk7)

161 135 People must provide quarters for armed IRS agents in their homes, and free WiFi.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:26 PM (9BfnT)

I don't give two-bits.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:30 PM (ynpvh)

162 TMJ, you mean federal-level shredding of the 2nd Amendment, I take it. For years and including now, at the state level, the idiots have shredded it. And continue to do so, despite Heller for example. Maybe some of the most egregious crap will be nixed by SCOTUS in due course - would be nice if contemptuous rebellion by some circuits and many states against Heller were at least noticed by SCOTUS, in all its majesty.

Though the first reaction will be like after the recent decision. Endless variations on bad-faith dodges and trickeration to harass gun owners and burden gun ownership.

Lawlessness comes in several forms, but the most important one is bad faith combined with a totalitarian mindset.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:30 PM (OTzUX)

163 Karen Steele >>>>>>>>>> Christopher Steele.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 12:30 PM (dxllA)

164 Carter Page was a willing participant and or willing dupe in this whole monstrosity.

Carter Page is a f**king IC/LE asset who's sole job/role is to be a human kompromat/predicate generator.

There's a reason why he jets around going to international conferences and hobnobs with people he has no business being in the same room with.

I can't believe we've been swirling in the pigsh*t nonsense for nearly a decade.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 12:31 PM (up/3i)

165 >>>Zero out the budgets for the FBI, the CIA and the NSA. Let's see how well subsistence living works for them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

Bongino has a twist. Also move the FBI HQ to Alaska.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:31 PM (VWp7G)

166 So, our federal mall cop jobs are safe?

Posted by: Homeland Security at October 12, 2022 12:31 PM (TnqVo)

167 We should get rid of the 4th amendment. If you haven't done anything wrong, what do you have to fear? It just clogs up the courts with warrant requests which are purely procedural anyway.

-Ian Milheiser, probably

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:31 PM (9BfnT)

168 Wish I had a million dollars.

Wouldn't you rather have a monkey?

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Or a llama or an emu?

No monkey. They are too smart, too mischievous, and too strong if they go aggro.

Yes to the llama. They can be ornery, but most of the time they're chill. They're pretty fun, they are good at protecting their herd, they can pack goods, they are good for providing fur for all sorts of goods.

No emu. They're evil murder-birds.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (eyxn4)

169 That's the reason the DNC is trying to make fetch happen with the hilariously insipid slogan "Roe Roe Roe Your Vote".
Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (ZGrMX)

Someone should point out to them that "Roe Roe Roe Your Vote" means to kill it before it's born.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (zhLdt)

170 Remember when the same FBI run by Saint Comey who was all smug and bragging to MSDNC about sending his agents to speak to General Flynn on the pretext in order to frame him.

The FBI is rotten to the core and Chris Wray just picked up where Comey left off.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (NpAcC)

171 Damn. Next thing you know there will be B-17s flying overhead on their way to bomb the ball bearing factories in Schweinfurt.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (anj39)

Semiconductors are the new ball bearings.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (cupoy)

172 It just clogs up the courts with warrant requests which are purely procedural anyway.

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He's got a point. They are purely procedural at this point.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (sX1BW)

173 People must provide quarters for armed IRS agents in their homes, and free WiFi.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:26 PM (9BfnT)
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If they're quartered at Che Blake, I guarantee degradation of ability to perform essential duties.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (5pTK/)

174 I want a million dollars too, but will settle for BJ from Karen Gillan or a pre agreed upon substitute like Margot Robbie.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (QSjkU)

175 38 Yet Comey still "discussed" it with Trump in order to give CNN the hook they needed to release it. And now we know why CNN needed the hook. Even they knew it was bullshit from the beginning, but the fact that Comey discussed it was enough to make it newsworthy regardless of whether the contents were verified.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:14 PM (9BfnT)
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This shows just how corrupt Comey and the FBI was/is.

Posted by: WisRich at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (G0vdT)

176 125 . . . Gun control is actually one of the few areas the Democrats have lost ground on balance over the last 50 years or so . . .
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead!
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Don't worry. Dan "Red Flag" Crenshaw would like to help the Democrats reverse that trend.

Posted by: Furious George at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (CkFy6)

177 Math problem of the day:

If we mount a cross every fifty feet, how long a stretch of the beltway will be required to hoist the entire Deep State bureacracy, and their hangers-on in the Propaganda Press (plus, pedophile NeverTrumpers)?

Show your work.

Posted by: Sulla at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (KcPPs)
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* Breaks into rendition of "Always look on the bright side of life ...*

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (m0AHL)

178 83 It really takes some real stick-to-tive-ness to achieve this level of incompetence our intelligence services have obtained.

There should be some sort of lifetime achievement award we could give them. I suggest a long rope and a short drop.
Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2022 12:20 PM

Most people would enjoy a free chance to go rappelling...we need some kind of coded punishment to inflict instead!

Posted by: Confused Moron at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM (kL9Oc)

179 >>>There was a young woman at the pub yesterday who'd name is Nikita. I assume she's a ruthless assassin.
Posted by: That NLurker guy

One can only hope!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:33 PM (VWp7G)

180 If we mount a cross every fifty feet, how long a stretch of the beltway will be required to hoist the entire Deep State bureacracy, and their hangers-on in the Propaganda Press (plus, pedophile NeverTrumpers)?

Show your work.
Posted by: Sulla at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (KcPPs)

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Hmmmmmm. Let’s see...add that...carry the two...divided by...

A shit ton.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 12, 2022 12:33 PM (u73oe)

181 The Smoking Man is dead.

He was promoted to Burning Man. It did not go well.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 12, 2022 12:33 PM (ayzS/)

182 This type of over the top Government behavior is inevitable when a full 37% of your total GDP, is some type of Government spending (Fed, State, or Local).

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:33 PM (oHd/0)

183 $1 Million if He Could Prove That His "Dossier" Claim Were True.
==
They offered 1 million - as a line of credit. So he knew he would be reimbursed for the bribes they wanted him to put out there to manufacture witnesses, evidence etc.

Of course they couldn't do that themselves. They used him as a cut out.

Posted by: Like watching the Hindeburg Crash and Burn at October 12, 2022 12:33 PM (ufR/a)

184 FBI Felonious Bunch of Idiots.

Posted by: democrats, Raping or Mutilating the Children They Cannot Kill Since 1973 at October 12, 2022 12:33 PM (jV+aN)

185 Bongino has a twist. Also move the FBI HQ to Alaska.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:31 PM (VWp7G)

*********

Only if this move is 100 miles north of Faibanks.

Otherwise, eliminate the bureau.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at October 12, 2022 12:33 PM (TnqVo)

186
Show your work.
Posted by: Sulla

Will not cost a dime.
Use street light poles as well as telephone poles and there are plenty already.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (ID+Qb)

187
French gas chaos video:

https://tinyurl.com/2myxafzc

Thanks, Greta.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (Mzdiz)

188 >>>Only if this move is 100 miles north of Faibanks.

Otherwise, eliminate the bureau.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie

I'm on board with that.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (VWp7G)

189 Gun control is truly one of the failures of the left. If you look at non compliance in states that have enacted some rather heinous laws, you can plainly see the populace telling government to stick it where the sun never shines. One of the tiny states had a registry for AR type rifles, or maybe it was mags, and had less than a 10% compliance rate. CT I think.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (lz5hY)

190 The Smoking Man is dead.

-------------

He did not die from lung cancer. Just from the diabetes he got because he could no longer by his life-saving and life-enjoyment appetite suppressant sticks.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (sX1BW)

191 Ukraine has some very nice hookers.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (D8mow)

That's what Mike Harmon said.

Before he met the Kildara.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (qyH+l)

192 *shrugs*

Does it even matter anymore?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:28 PM (LvTSG)

The Constitution.

How quaint.

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (pwExq)

193 Only if this move is 100 miles north of Faibanks.

And put the building on the site of an Eskimo burial mound just to make late nights spicy for the agents.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (ZGrMX)

194 Let's say that by some divine accident a genuinely honest man became FBI director could he change things?
Useless speculation I know.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (eGTCV)

195 Bongino has a twist. Also move the FBI HQ to Alaska.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:31 PM (VWp7G)

Adak.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (oHd/0)

196
Karen Steele >>>>>>>>>> Christopher Steele.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Her lumps were OK

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 12, 2022 12:35 PM (63Dwl)

197
Big difference. The Smoking Man was actually competent.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 12:35 PM (Mzdiz)

198 I, like many others, knew from the beginning that Comey, Mueller and all the other Stasi knew from the very beginning that this was all a lie. Not to mention Obama and his hired pet troll, Biden. How in the name of all that is holy in fuckdom that all these people - ALL OF THEM - are not rotting in prison, awaiting execution for Sedition and the ACTUAL fucking overthrow of the duly elected government of this country.

This is just another data point highlighting that we don't have a country anymore. Just a ruling class elite driving us into serfdom.

Being an amateur student of history I hope that a Bastille Day fate waits them, as it so often does in history.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 12, 2022 12:35 PM (rPOSk)

199 "Damn. Next thing you know there will be B-17s flying overhead on their way to bomb the ball bearing factories in Schweinfurt." - Diogenes

Well we can't give you that - just yet - but would you settle for multi-layered fortifications involving tank trenches and dragons teeth and firing positions (and possibly minefields), a la Kursk 1943?

Happening right now in Lugansk oblast. Russkis digging in. Pretty clear it will take them time to spin up more numbers of effective units from the mobilization, they continue to prioritize the south over the east (presumably because in the longer run it's easier to hold those areas, which are also genuinely anti-Uke and would never be easy for the Ukes to hold).

Not four defense lines, like at Kursk, but still, nostalgic for WWII buffs.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:35 PM (OTzUX)

200 195 Bongino has a twist. Also move the FBI HQ to Alaska.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:31 PM (VWp7G)

Adak.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (oHd/0)

Send them to China; they indirectly work for them anyway.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 12, 2022 12:35 PM (ynpvh)

201
That's how desperate the FBI was to prove the "dossier" was true, which they knew was paid for by Hillary Clinton: They were offering a one million dollar cash prize for proof.

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According to the FBI, the FBI *knew* that Steele was an inveterate liar from his days in Brit intel. This liar came to them with an obvious lie, while in the employ of Hillary Clinton's private intelligence operation. Comey and McCabe (also professional liars) then deliberately filtered the lie through the liars in the media (Kristol, Continetti, Jeff Zucker) and a liar in the Senate (John McCain) to turn the lie into actionable intelligence.

They weren't looking for "proof" or offering a "prize." They were offering a taxpayer-funded $1m bribe for their shady-ass source to fabricate evidence for them to bandy about and pretend to believe. I think Steele was just too smart to let these dumbfucks put him on the hook like that. Throughout the entire thing, he was careful to couch *everything* he lied about in language that provided him with deniability.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 12, 2022 12:35 PM (oINRc)

202 194 Let's say that by some divine accident a genuinely honest man became FBI director could he change things?
Useless speculation I know.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (eGTCV)

No. He doesn't have real power to fire most people so they can mostly disregard them. He can monkey with budget proceedings a bit to make it less likely Congress would approve some spending but that's about it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 12:36 PM (eYoxG)

203 He did not die from lung cancer. Just from the diabetes he got because he could no longer by his life-saving and life-enjoyment appetite suppressant sticks.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (sX1BW)

Yeah, remember the good ole days, when everyone smoked...

And everyone was thin?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:36 PM (oHd/0)

204 So now Biden is going to cut off arms sales to Saudi Arabia in retaliation for Saudi not delaying the cuts in oil production until after the midterms.

What was Trump impeached for, again?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 12, 2022 12:36 PM (I2/tG)

205 show me a democrat

and I'll show you some hate

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 12:36 PM (us2H3)

206 If you erect 10 gallows on the mall and make them tie their own noose with a loop at both ends while they stand in line. They step up on the platform, noose around the neck, loop over a hook on the crossbar, open the trap door, snap the neck, cut the rope, close the door, repeat. You could get through a couple hundred per hour.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:36 PM (9BfnT)

207 204 So now Biden is going to cut off arms sales to Saudi Arabia in retaliation for Saudi not delaying the cuts in oil production until after the midterms.

What was Trump impeached for, again?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 12, 2022 12:36 PM (I2/tG)

=========

A fiction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:36 PM (LvTSG)

208 > If I had a cool name like Igor, no way would I let people call me Iggy.

I knew a Frenchman named Igor. He HATED the nickname Iggy. Apparently, Iggy was the nickname they gave to the spaz kids when he was growing up.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 12, 2022 12:37 PM (eyxn4)

209 Sadly, due to Biden's inflation, the FBI will now have to offer a $2,000,000 reward to take down Trump in 2024.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:37 PM (sX1BW)

210 206 If you erect 10 gallows on the mall and make them tie their own noose with a loop at both ends while they stand in line. They step up on the platform, noose around the neck, loop over a hook on the crossbar, open the trap door, snap the neck, cut the rope, close the door, repeat. You could get through a couple hundred per hour.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:36 PM (9BfnT)

========

Is this what doctors think about in their down time?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:37 PM (LvTSG)

211 If they're quartered at Che Blake, I guarantee degradation of ability to perform essential duties.
Posted by: Blake

Proud owner of a backhoe already?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (ID+Qb)

212 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 12, 2022 12:35 PM (oINRc)

Yup, FBI was going to pay a Foreign operative US Tax Dollars, for compromising material, on a US Politcian.

Do you know that Political appointees and Politicians get a PASS on their background checks for Security Clearance, so they WON'T find blackmail type material on them?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (oHd/0)

213 No emu. They're evil murder-birds.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM

And the ones that don't immediately try to kill you will try to sell you insurance first.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (yMu1v)

214 If you erect 10 gallows on the mall and make them tie their own noose with a loop at both ends while they stand in line. They step up on the platform, noose around the neck, loop over a hook on the crossbar, open the trap door, snap the neck, cut the rope, close the door, repeat. You could get through a couple hundred per hour.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:36 PM (9BfnT)

Impalement. Sure, you wouldn't get through the list as quickly but it would act as an instructive deterrent longer.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (zhLdt)

215 Let's say that by some divine accident a genuinely honest man became FBI director could he change things?
Useless speculation I know.

Same problem as the military. All of the generals are corrupted. You would have to cut out all of the leadership. The top 4 grades would need to go.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (9BfnT)

216 If Trump regained the Presidency, and had his FBI director do SWAT raids on abortion providers for violation of the RICO Act, what percentage of agents would suddenly find the spine to resign in protest?

Posted by: Philosopher Moron at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (kL9Oc)

217 I honestly don't get why people want to inflict the FBI on AK. The Navy has some perfectly fine mothballed rust buckets available for the new FBI headquarters. Anchor the ships two or three miles out, problem solved!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (5pTK/)

218
Show your work.
Posted by: Sulla at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (KcPPs)

Probably the full length of I-20, I-40 and I-70/90. Maybe US-1 (Fort Kent, ME to Key West) as well.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 12, 2022 12:39 PM (qyH+l)

219 216 If Trump regained the Presidency, and had his FBI director do SWAT raids on abortion providers for violation of the RICO Act, what percentage of agents would suddenly find the spine to resign in protest?
Posted by: Philosopher Moron at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (kL9Oc)

=========

How many committees would Kevin McCarthy allow to run wild bringing in senior DOJ officials with tales of lawbreaking?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:39 PM (LvTSG)

220 Impalement. Sure, you wouldn't get through the list as quickly but it would act as an instructive deterrent longer.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (zhLdt)

They should be type deleted right in the type delete.

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2022 12:39 PM (pwExq)

221 Even the corrupt MSM has ethical rules* about not paying for stories, right?

*Rules made to be broken

Posted by: JM in Florida at October 12, 2022 12:40 PM (uAsc0)

222 What was Trump impeached for, again?

@JoeBiden

President Trump withheld Congressionally appropriated aid to Ukraine unless they granted him a political favor. It's the definition of quid pro quo.

This is no joke—Trump continues to put his own personal, political interests ahead of the national interest. He must be impeached.

6:47 PM · Oct 18, 2019

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 12, 2022 12:40 PM (I2/tG)

223 Something something still a Republic something something...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 12, 2022 12:40 PM (IyrhE)

224 honestly don't get why people want to inflict the FBI on AK. The Navy has some perfectly fine mothballed rust buckets available for the new FBI headquarters. Anchor the ships two or three miles out, problem solved!
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker

Buy Greenland.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:40 PM (eGTCV)

225 >>> I honestly don't get why people want to inflict the FBI on AK. The Navy has some perfectly fine mothballed rust buckets available for the new FBI headquarters. Anchor the ships two or three miles out, problem solved!
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large

Ooo, that's much better. Nice thinking.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:40 PM (VWp7G)

226 If you erect 10 gallows on the mall and make them tie their own noose with a loop at both ends while they stand in line. They step up on the platform, noose around the neck, loop over a hook on the crossbar, open the trap door, snap the neck, cut the rope, close the door, repeat. You could get through a couple hundred per hour.

If that happened all of the Morons would have an erection lasting more than 4 hours.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:40 PM (ZGrMX)

227 >>>Why is the FBI so afraid of people who pray and sing hymns?

Because whether they know it or not they worship Satan.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 12:40 PM (T/vhV)

228 Same problem as the military. All of the generals are corrupted. You would have to cut out all of the leadership. The top 4 grades would need to go.

There was a solution back during the Vietnam War. Fragging.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 12, 2022 12:40 PM (rPOSk)

229 Impalement. Sure, you wouldn't get through the list as quickly but it would act as an instructive deterrent longer.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (zhLdt)

Ancient Celts, as part of their Religion, would Burn their King at the Stake, if times were bad enough, to placate the Gods.

/starts to sing.... give me that ole time religion... give me that ole time religion....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (oHd/0)

230 The DOJ never expected this Russian oligarch to respond to their indictment. They thought he would remain in Russian and default. Their arrogance has resulted in exposing the truth about this illegal conspiracy against an American president.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (jjlJW)

231 This is hard to believe, next you'll be telling me the founder of the FBI wore dresses.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 12, 2022

***
He was gender-fluid when gender-fluid wasn't cool

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (J2vNu)

232 215 Let's say that by some divine accident a genuinely honest man became FBI director could he change things?
Useless speculation I know.

Same problem as the military. All of the generals are corrupted. You would have to cut out all of the leadership. The top 4 grades would need to go.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (9BfnT)

I'd say regarding the FBI, it all has to go. At this point it is unsalvagable.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (N39Ws)

233 Bongino has a twist. Also move the FBI HQ to Alaska.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:31 PM (VWp7G)

The Dewey line needs to be actively patrolled.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (ID+Qb)

234 So how does DoD Contractors like haveing Biden fucking with their cash flow? Biden may have stepped in a big pile of shit. Cutting Saudis out of the picture may be a bridge too far.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (D8mow)

235 @201

>>They weren't looking for "proof" or offering a "prize." They were offering a taxpayer-funded $1m bribe for their shady-ass source to fabricate evidence for them to bandy about and pretend to believe.

The fact that people believe that the Steele Dossier was the predicate for initialing counter-intelligence investigations into Trump is quite sad.

The LE/IC apparatus started investigating at Obama's request starting in 2012, shortly after Trump forced Obama to release that bogus birth certificate.

And I'm fairly confident the LE/IC apparatus has a slow burn "investigation" on Trump going back to the 80's.

And they probably marveled and said to themselves, "How the f**k is THIS GUY, so squeaky clean?"

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (up/3i)

236 make them tie their own noose

These f*cks can barely tie their own shoes.

Posted by: spindrift at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (h5TKJ)

237 I have no recollection of me sticking my dick in Senator Burr's ass senator.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (VaSD4)

238 Y's Dice has it correct up there.

It remains just stunning how audacious, transparently ridiculous, and outrageous all of this was. Even now.

But relax folks. The party that pretty much sat by and passively supported all of this is about to Win Big at the Polls!!! And stuff!!!

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:42 PM (OTzUX)

239 The FBI is the standing army the founders warned against.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:42 PM (sX1BW)

240 Please do not use my dead-name, "Christopher". I am Giselle, and very proud of my previously-repressed identity as a beautiful, fashionable, strong woman. Some may have cast doubt on my intelligence background and accomplishments but that is pure misogyny. H8ters!

#BelieveAllWomen

Posted by: Giselle Steele at October 12, 2022 12:42 PM (MofO9)

241 If FBI HQ was moved to the far north the warm cap would ruin Wray's hair.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:42 PM (eGTCV)

242 Aaaah! Coffee! Ran a bottle of coffee-maker cleaner through it; then 2 changes of fresh water. Then made a pot of coffee, which is good.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2022 12:42 PM (Lr5+Z)

243 And they probably marveled and said to themselves, "How the f**k is THIS GUY, so squeaky clean?"

I barely believe it. An NY/NJ real estate developer who isn't as crooked as the Clintons? How does that happen?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:42 PM (ZGrMX)

244 ... They weren't looking for "proof" or offering a "prize." They were offering a taxpayer-funded $1m bribe for their shady-ass source to fabricate evidence for them to bandy about and pretend to believe. I think Steele was just too smart to let these dumbfucks put him on the hook like that. Throughout the entire thing, he was careful to couch *everything* he lied about in language that provided him with deniability.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 12, 2022 12:35 PM (oINRc)
++++
That's a good read.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:43 PM (t0OGg)

245 >>>If you erect 10 gallows on the mall and make them tie their own noose

I kinda doubt you could get them to tie their own nooses without significant effort.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 12:43 PM (T/vhV)

246 186
Show your work.
Posted by: Sulla

Will not cost a dime.
Use street light poles as well as telephone poles and there are plenty already.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 12:34 PM (ID+Qb)

See my handle...

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 12, 2022 12:43 PM (pkTq0)

247 >>>FBI filed a surveillance warrant based on the dossier anyway.

And nobody did anything about it. So, of course, they proceeded to steal an election.

Because, why not? ORANGEMANBAD, right?

DIAFF, DOJ/FBI and you GOPe enablers.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 12:43 PM (yHsuS)

248 238 But relax folks. The party that pretty much sat by and passively supported all of this is about to Win Big at the Polls!!! And stuff!!!
Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:42 PM (OTzUX)

=========

Listen, we're gonna get impeachment proceedings against Merrick Garland that will fail miserably in the Senate, assuming they'll even get there.

That'll show 'em.

Sure, the House GOP could shut down the entire government through their power over the federal government's budget, but that would be asking too much of the man fighting tooth and nail to lead the House.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (LvTSG)

249 Still waiting for Adam Schiff to forward with his solid evidence of Russian collusion.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (jjlJW)

250 Did you think the government wouldn't use force to round up its enemies - not here - can't happen? Welp, if they are pulling swat raids on mom and pop abortion protesters at home, in front of their kids. They absolutely will eventually get round to doing the same anyone who speaks up, objects, or poses as resistance to the wokesholist manifesto they are spreading.

Posted by: Like watching the Hindeburg Crash and Burn at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (RmC88)

251 206 The hangman's noose is one of the handiest knots you can learn. Very easy to do once shown, and very easy to take down. Good for a lot of things. Hanged a swing for a customer off some tree branches without a ladder. Throw noose over branch, lower. insert rest into noose, tighten. Repeat. Also handy for summary executions at the nearest convenient tree (HT to Judge Roy Bean).

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (lz5hY)

252 through leftist contacts, Steele was probably paid way more than a million dollars to disappear

and keep his mouth shut

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (us2H3)

253 See, the Obama administration set the pace.

So if Trump ever comes out and moons the Democrats at a State of the Union speech, this *still* doesn't reach the precedent of a lack of propriety that Obama, the Clintons and the FIB put together.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (krQz2)

254 It's worth noting that all of these FBI shenanigans were enabled by Dubya's Patriot Act. Boy was that a mistake.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (ZGrMX)

255 That's a good read.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:43 PM (t0OGg)

Yep.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (yHsuS)

256 get why people want to inflict the FBI on AK. The Navy has some perfectly fine mothballed rust buckets available for the new FBI headquarters. Anchor the ships two or three miles out, problem solved!
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large

Ooo, that's much better. Nice thinking.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 12:40 PM

You left out the part about the Harpoons.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (yMu1v)

257 What kind of incompetent can't manufacture fake evidence for a million dollars? We're lucky they didn't offer the money to a real megamind.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (24fqN)

258 Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:45 PM (eGTCV)

259 Still waiting for Adam Schiff to forward with his solid evidence of Russian collusion.

Still waiting for Schiff's eyes to completely detach from his head.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:45 PM (ZGrMX)

260 It's worth noting that all of these FBI shenanigans were enabled by Dubya's Patriot Act. Boy was that a mistake.

-------------

And won't you please take your shoes off in this filthy airport.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:45 PM (sX1BW)

261 Ancient Celts, as part of their Religion, would Burn their King at the Stake, if times were bad enough, to placate the Gods.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (oHd/0)

Is that why Larry Bird retired?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:45 PM (zhLdt)

262 We could put the FBI in Gitmo, but that would just make it easier for them to collab with Cuba's commies.

Posted by: irright at October 12, 2022 12:45 PM (8rX4S)

263 All of the unConstitutional gun laws and restrictions need to be undone too. As long as I'm dreaming.

Posted by: AK at work at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (o+IHV)

264 through leftist contacts, Steele was probably paid way more than a million dollars to disappear

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (us2H3)
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Seems to me that Hillary has had a cheaper way to make somebody disappear.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (krQz2)

265 Even if you object that they would give Steele more than 18 days to prove his "dossier" -- what about the next re-authorization, which came three months after that? And the next one, three months after that? And the next one, three months after that?
++++
He just needed more time! The FISA system is bulletproof, too, so no worries.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (t0OGg)

266 No emu. They're evil murder-birds.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 12, 2022 12:32 PM

And the ones that don't immediately try to kill you will try to sell you insurance first.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (yMu1v)

-------

I just got a great idea for a new Aflac marketing campaign using emus ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (LPCDR)

267 The FBI is the standing army the founders warned against.
Posted by: SH

All the pResident's alphabets are armed, that's a very large Pretorian guard for the libs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (ID+Qb)

268 So, has it been decided there are sufficient lampposts in DC? What about transport? Personally, I favor the rail method. I'm sure there will be sufficient volunteers to carry the rails, too.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (5pTK/)

269 Seems to me that Hillary has had a cheaper way to make somebody disappear.

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Take off her shirt?

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (sX1BW)

270 @248

>>Listen, we're gonna get impeachment

Impeachment hearings would be pointless, counter-productive and waste valuable time.

Time that would be better spent getting back to regular order, real immigration reform, etc.

So of course we will get impeachment hearings.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (up/3i)

271 Impalement. Sure, you wouldn't get through the list as quickly but it would act as an instructive deterrent longer.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:38 PM (zhLdt)

Interesting factoid... Vlad Dracul, ie Vlad the Impaler, was alive and active at the same time as Joan of Arc.

Just realized that a few days ago...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (oHd/0)

272 Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up.
Posted by: That NLurker guy

Cato

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 12, 2022 12:47 PM (IyrhE)

273 I kinda doubt you could get them to tie their own nooses without significant effort.
Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 12:43 PM (T/vhV)

Impalement's looking better and better.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:47 PM (zhLdt)

274 January 20, 2025

Trump steps up to podium.

“My turn”

Walks away

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 12, 2022 12:47 PM (u73oe)

275 258 Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up.
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Dean Martin, I believe.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 12:47 PM (D8mow)

276 Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:45 PM (eGTCV)

Monica Bellucci, I believe.

Posted by: spindrift at October 12, 2022 12:47 PM (h5TKJ)

277 270 Impeachment hearings would be pointless, counter-productive and waste valuable time.

Time that would be better spent getting back to regular order, real immigration reform, etc.

So of course we will get impeachment hearings.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (up/3i)

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That was the point of my snark. It mostly just amazes me that we still have people around here demanding impeachment as some sort of great thing that the House GOP can do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:47 PM (LvTSG)

278 257 Hey, he was a secret agent, not a megamind. Swinging on the Riviera one day, laying in a Bombay alley next day.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 12, 2022 12:47 PM (lz5hY)

279 Dagnabbit.

Posted by: spindrift at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (h5TKJ)

280 Ancient Celts, as part of their Religion, would Burn their King at the Stake, if times were bad enough, to placate the Gods.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:41 PM (oHd/0)

Is that why Larry Bird retired?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:45 PM (zhLdt)

Parrish the thought.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (M9FHm)

281 258 Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:45 PM (eGTCV)

Cato the Elder.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (eYoxG)

282 And what Y's Dice said about Steele's caginess, in particular.

Recall that Steele - in a civil proceeding in the UK, I forget when but fairly early in the ridiculous multi-year sham assault on Trump over this by all comers - clearly stated that he had no proof of the dossier nonsense.

There it was. In court, the central figure states "well I was just told all this, I have no actual proof".

When was this, anyone recall? Anyway, a facially absurd thing debunked formally in this way was nonetheless continued and used to cripple a presidency. While the GOP looked on (apart from Nunes and a tiny number of exceptions).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (OTzUX)

283 Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up.
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Roman Polanski.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (jjlJW)

284 Vitrectomy. Hopefully the last surgery to fix detached retina.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Prayers up Duke !

Posted by: JT at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (T4tVD)

285 It's worth noting that all of these FBI shenanigans were enabled by Dubya's Patriot Act. Boy was that a mistake.
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Not really. They could not do what they did without *breaking* the laws that were made around the processes put into place.

Although, you might be able to blame the Patriot Act on giving the FIB a taste for how easy it is to do their job if they can just spy as much as they want to.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (krQz2)

286 we get ran out of Afghanistan by a bunch of towel headed, camel riding sand breathers

and we are laughing at Putin's army

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (us2H3)

287 That's a good read.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:43 PM (t0OGg)

YD is very intelligent and well read.

Posted by: I Mean at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (HpljN)

288 That was the point of my snark. It mostly just amazes me that we still have people around here demanding impeachment as some sort of great thing that the House GOP can do.

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You want the government to be defunded.

You will settle for impeachment hearings.

You will get a less than doubling of the size of the government and will be lectured how it would have doubled without the efforts of the GOPe.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 12:49 PM (sX1BW)

289 Where was this $1,000,000 coming from?

Since it's unclaimed, could I get a piece of the action?

Posted by: Beto's Campaign at October 12, 2022 12:49 PM (a3Q+t)

290 It's worth noting that all of these FBI shenanigans were enabled by Dubya's Patriot Act. Boy was that a mistake.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (ZGrMX)
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There's a lot of stupid crap W started which has been used to further the interests of the Deep State.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 12:49 PM (5pTK/)

291 Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up.
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Cletus.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 12:49 PM (krQz2)

292 All the pResident's alphabets are armed, that's a very large Pretorian guard for the libs.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (ID+Qb)

The key to the praetorian guard's success was that there was only one of them.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 12, 2022 12:49 PM (gab/+)

293 So...wood chippers are still viable.
Nice to know.

https://tinyurl.com/3wnj7ja3

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:49 PM (anj39)

294 Cletus.
Posted by: Axeman at October 12,

The Hillbilly?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (eGTCV)

295 Interesting factoid... Vlad Dracul, ie Vlad the Impaler, was alive and active at the same time as Joan of Arc.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (oHd/0)

I think you mean undead.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (zhLdt)

296 Not really. They could not do what they did without *breaking* the laws that were made around the processes put into place.

Although, you might be able to blame the Patriot Act on giving the FIB a taste for how easy it is to do their job if they can just spy as much as they want to.

Patriot Act created the FISA courts, didn't it?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (ZGrMX)

297 Top Roman

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (us2H3)

298 -
Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up. -
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No, no. I said innocence.

Posted by: R. Polanski at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (8rX4S)

299 If we mount a cross every fifty feet, how long a stretch of the beltway will be required to hoist the entire Deep State bureacracy, and their hangers-on in the Propaganda Press (plus, pedophile NeverTrumpers)?

Show your work.
Posted by: Sulla at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (KcPPs)

At 62.43 miles, this would yield 6,782 crosses.
I fear this would not be enough.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (w9Wax)

300 That $1 million had to be directly and specifically approved by the head of the FBI.

The AG also had to sign off.

Likely, the Treasury Secretary also had to authorize it.

Nothing like that in any department gets authorization without multiple top-level approvals.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (Zf0+a)

301 I wonder if the FBI is the least bit concerned with the fact that their actions against the US constitute capital sedition.......Probably why they are freaked the f∪∁K out at regular folks standing up to the deep state and saying no.

Heck if that ever caught on they maybe just maybe might have to answer slightly for what they've done. Now if there ever was a civil war and they lost, well they'd all be justifiably put to death.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (T/vhV)

302 Warm smell of Cletus rising up in the air.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (jjlJW)

303 Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022

***
Cato the Elder. Now there was a rock-ribbed conservative to make Roger B. Taney shudder. He worked in the fields alongside his slaves. Then, when a slave got too old to work, Cat would free him, to save the expense of feeding him. "Thank you for your service. There's the door."

Cato would probably have been admired in the Republic's early days. But in the decades after the Second Punic War, the one with Hannibal, Rome was already becoming far too decadent. His brand of "noble Roman" attitude did not get him invited to many parties, methinks.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (J2vNu)

304 Might be some small exceptions, but no, absolutely not the case that this was enabled by the stupidly named Patriot Act. Certainly not the FISA parts (for the Nth time, that dates to the 70s, and was actively hotly debated in the Senate at least up through the late 80s, as different issues emerged).

I await specific examples of anything related to the stupidly named Patriot Act involved in this whole outrage.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (OTzUX)

305 @282

>>While the GOP looked on (apart from Nunes and a tiny number of exceptions).

Remember, It was the GOP controlled Senate Intelligence Committee that issued a report that Russia materially interfered in the 2016 election.

And it was Paul Ryan that allowed Nunes to be sidelined by a sham ethics investigation.

The GOP is a garbage politcal party and needs to be trebucheted into the history books along side the Whigs and Bull Moose Parties.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (up/3i)

306 267 The FBI is the standing army the founders warned against.
Posted by: SH

All the pResident's alphabets are armed, that's a very large Pretorian guard for the libs.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (ID+Qb)

If we ever get someone back into the WH who is (truly) on our side, this should be in their top 5 on a priority list. Shut down all those police force/swat/armed Stasi teams all these agencies have. Every one.

If they the Dept of Ed needs to go somewhere where they need cops armed to the teeth -- use local resources. Sheriff or local PD only. These cops can at least be held locally accountable.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (N39Ws)

307 215 Let's say that by some divine accident a genuinely honest man became FBI director could he change things?
Useless speculation I know.
___________

Trump should make Gen. Flynn the FBI director in 2024.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (MvHI3)

308 The markets are on a cliffs edge. The Fed Rate folly is just starting to take a bite out of the market. There will be another 75bps increase in November which will translate to 8% mortgage rates by years end and make auto loans more expensive.

When mortgage rates are prohibitively high, the real estate market crashes. Hard. Like 2008/9. I'm just telling everyone... don't believe the sweet nothings being whispered in your ears... trouble is coming. Oh and I didn't even mention the Ukraine War or oil prices.

Rates will head down... as soon as the Fed realizes they crashed the economy.

The fed is run by republiQans Who probably still think US currency is backed by gold. There actions certainly reflect old thinking. Some one explain how raising the rates making housing even more unaffordable keeps egg prices from going up?

October Surprise. A lot of people watching their retirement accounts plummet are going to blame the party in power.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (kL9Oc)

309 Trade the FBI to Russia for the FSB & three NHL draft picks to be named later.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (JNPgJ)

310 289 Where was this $1,000,000 coming from?

Since it's unclaimed, could I get a piece of the action?

you'll wind up spending it all on bootleg hooker pee

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (oY6Yp)

311 Patriot Act created the FISA courts, didn't it?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (ZGrM
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Yes it did. And the FIB did shit diligence on a FISA application while signing off--under penalty of perjury--that they had done their utmost in diligence.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (krQz2)

312 ...When was this, anyone recall? Anyway, a facially absurd thing debunked formally in this way was nonetheless continued and used to cripple a presidency. While the GOP looked on (apart from Nunes and a tiny number of exceptions).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:48 PM (OTzUX)

Which is one of the reasons that I absolutely hate the Republican Party. More than the Democrats actually. Because Democrats tell you to your face what they're going to do. Republicans lie to your face. Democrats don't betray me. Republicans do.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (rPOSk)

313 293 So...wood chippers are still viable.
Nice to know.

https://tinyurl.com/3wnj7ja3
Posted by: Diogenes

Point the outlet towards a pig pen and pork gets real cheap to feed.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (VaSD4)

314 The GOP would have gladly chipped in another $1 mil to get rid of Trump

Posted by: brak at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (lO5WT)

315 308 October Surprise. A lot of people watching their retirement accounts plummet are going to blame the party in power.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (kL9Oc)

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The only solution is to End the Fed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (LvTSG)

316 But in the decades after the Second Punic War

You wouldn't think a little wordplay would ever be a reason for a military campaign, let alone two.

Posted by: spindrift at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (h5TKJ)

317 Most folks'll never lose a toe,
And then again some folks'll,
Like Cletus
The slack-jawed yokel.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (24fqN)

318 Interesting factoid... Vlad Dracul, ie Vlad the Impaler, was alive and active at the same time as Joan of Arc.

Just realized that a few days ago...
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:46 PM (oHd/0)
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My favorite Vlad story: some Muslim emissaries showed up with a list of demands and he sent the representatives back with the demands nailed the their foreheads.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (5pTK/)

319 There was a solution back during the Vietnam War. Fragging.
==

Enlisted and non comm's been shooting stupid officer's at the front as long as they're been wars. The reason why chieftans, generals had personal body guards was to discourage the troops for killing them, not so much to protect them from the enemy.

Posted by: Like watching the Hindeburg Crash and Burn at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (2rR7p)

320 I seriously doubt anything short of a national divorce or civil war would allow the dismantling of the federal bureaucracy in any meaningful way. Either one of the sides takes it as is or neither does. There's no splitting it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (BFigT)

321

At 62.43 miles, this would yield 6,782 crosses.
I fear this would not be enough.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 12, 2022 12:50 PM (w9Wax)
***
Hmm...
What if we use both sides of the cross at the same time?
And go both inner loop and outer loop of the Beltway?
I'm sensing some efficiencies here!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (anj39)

322 "FBI's been raiding the residences of 50-80 year olds who sing Church songs at Abortion clinics. Of course they're pointing "assault rifles" at their families including children."

The "top brass" are just testing the limits of the ham and eggers. "Sorry we have to handcuff you and make you watch us rape your kids in front of you, but we have orders ... and pensions".

Seems over the top, but the are already torturing the young kids with "transition surgery" and forced dangerous mRNA jabs ... won't take long to get all FBI torturing the citizenry, and loving it. (a few dozen whistleblower recalcitrants, but they will be weeded out soon enough)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (Cus5s)

323 Warm smell of Cletus rising up in the air.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM

Better than what I had to endure.

Posted by: Camilla at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (a3Q+t)

324 Gentle Reminder: The SCOTUS leaker has yet to be found.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (VaSD4)

325 Oh, and Cato got the "Carthage must be destroyed" message across at every opportunity. Every time he spoke in the Senate, no matter the topic, he would conclude with "Carthage must be destroyed. I thank you all."

Imagine if Donald Trump had concluded every single speech with "Joe Biden must be investigated for corruption. I thank you."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (J2vNu)

326 >>Patriot Act created the FISA courts, didn't it?

No, the FISA court has been around for a long time. The Patriot Act just made it easier to use against American citizens.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:54 PM (ZLI7S)

327 Point the outlet towards a pig pen and pork gets real cheap to feed.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (VaSD4)

Setting aside the grossness for a moment... would that be safe to eat?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 12:54 PM (zhLdt)

328 164 Carter Page was a willing participant and or willing dupe in this whole monstrosity.

Carter Page is a f**king IC/LE asset who's sole job/role is to be a human kompromat/predicate generator.

There's a reason why he jets around going to international conferences and hobnobs with people he has no business being in the same room with.

I can't believe we've been swirling in the pigsh*t nonsense for nearly a decade.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 12:31 PM (up/3i)

Interesting perspective. I was wondering why Carter Page's $75 million lawsuit against the government wasn't getting anywhere, and you're comment on the matter is as good an answer as I've seen as to why it isn't.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2022 12:54 PM (9miN6)

329 267 All the pResident's alphabets are armed, that's a very large Pretorian guard for the libs.

we are marching to praetoria
praetoria, praetoria
we are marching to praetoria
praetoria, hurrah

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 12, 2022 12:54 PM (oY6Yp)

330 Gentle Reminder: The SCOTUS leaker has yet to be found.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (VaSD4)
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Translation: The Democrat FIB has yet to care.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 12:54 PM (krQz2)

331 I once bought a Punic tunic in Munich from a eunuch.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 12:54 PM (jjlJW)

332 Warnock reminds me of that dude on Curb Your Enthusiasm. Except not as funny.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 12, 2022 12:54 PM (SIZS3)

333 October Surprise. A lot of people watching their retirement accounts plummet are going to blame the party in power.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (kL9Oc)

--------

Is there nothing those evil RepubliQans can't make F. Joe Biden, his Junta, and his Congress do to intentionally crash the economy?

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 12:55 PM (+WWRW)

334 The markets are on a cliffs edge. The Fed Rate folly is just starting to take a bite out of the market. There will be another 75bps increase in November which will translate to 8% mortgage rates by years end and make auto loans more expensive.

When mortgage rates are prohibitively high, the real estate market crashes. Hard. Like 2008/9. I'm just telling everyone... don't believe the sweet nothings being whispered in your ears... trouble is coming. Oh and I didn't even mention the Ukraine War or oil prices. ...
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 12, 2022 12:51 PM (kL9Oc)
++++
Huh. Odd. a DU poster that isn't a total retard. I mean, he's still wrong that raising rates is "folly" (it's overdue and still too slow), but he's largely right about the consequences of the rate increases. Maybe he should consider looking into the root causes of this mess and the consequences of national-scale theft, can-kicking and abject stupidity.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:55 PM (t0OGg)

335 My favorite Vlad story: some Muslim emissaries showed up with a list of demands and he sent the representatives back with the demands nailed the their foreheads.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022

***
If I recall aright, they refused to remove their turbans. So Vlad made sure said turbans would never fall off.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 12:55 PM (J2vNu)

336 Hmm...
What if we use both sides of the cross at the same time?
And go both inner loop and outer loop of the Beltway?
I'm sensing some efficiencies here!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM

Good man!

Posted by: zombie Frederick Taylor at October 12, 2022 12:55 PM (a3Q+t)

337 >>>The fed is run by republiQans Who probably still think US currency is backed by gold. There actions certainly reflect old thinking. Some one explain how raising the rates making housing even more unaffordable keeps egg prices from going up?

Fine I will. Raising the prime rate does two things.
1. People don't borrow money.
2. Interest paid to the fed is effectively a money drain.

So you have two effects.
1. Slow the speed of money.
2. Reduce the M1 supply.

Those two effects offset inflationary pressures. But also choke the economy.

There happy?

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 12:56 PM (T/vhV)

338 334 Huh. Odd. a DU poster that isn't a total retard. I mean, he's still wrong that raising rates is "folly" (it's overdue and still too slow), but he's largely right about the consequences of the rate increases. Maybe he should consider looking into the root causes of this mess and the consequences of national-scale theft, can-kicking and abject stupidity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:55 PM (t0OGg)

===========

"Government spending doesn't affect inflation. It's corporate greed charging more and Trump's Fed printing money."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:56 PM (LvTSG)

339 J'Acuzzi!

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2022 12:57 PM (0OP+5)

340 @21 duke lowell

Get ready for the time when you look outside on a clear day to be overwhelmed by the clarity of vision to the point it's disconcerting, the amount of sheer detail that literally pops.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 12, 2022 12:57 PM (KATBx)

341 319 There was a solution back during the Vietnam War. Fragging.
==

Enlisted and non comm's been shooting stupid officer's at the front as long as they're been wars. The reason why chieftans, generals had personal body guards was to discourage the troops for killing them, not so much to protect them from the enemy.
Posted by: Like watching the Hindeburg Crash and Burn at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (2rR7p)

Personal bodyguards on battlefields(not the handful of individuals who prevent assassinations) could be pretty sizable for that purpose, and as you get deeper into the medieval era that's basically all of a monarch's personal troops. Considering targeting enemy generals was fairly popular and a great way to secure personal advancement, I'd say the group treated as a personal guard on the battlefield is different from the narrower role of dealing with assassins.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 12:57 PM (eYoxG)

342 Cletus, every time we're having a meal, you always gotta go off breaking gas. Don't break gas and destroy our meal!

Posted by: Mama Klump at October 12, 2022 12:57 PM (Xrfse)

343 At 62.43 miles, this would yield 6,782 crosses.
I fear this would not be enough.
==
Use both sides of ze crosses?

Posted by: efficiency expert at October 12, 2022 12:57 PM (SHFb5)

344 Huh. Odd. a DU poster that isn't a total retard. I mean, he's still wrong that raising rates is "folly" (it's overdue and still too slow), but he's largely right about the consequences of the rate increases. Maybe he should consider looking into the root causes of this mess and the consequences of national-scale theft, can-kicking and abject stupidity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:55 PM (t0OGg)

The real issue is the Governments War on the Energy sector of the economy. You can't do ANYTHING without energy in a modern economy. Banning oil drilling with NO viable plan in place to take up the slack?

Economic suicide... and the markets are reacting to the suicide note.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (oHd/0)

345 Those two effects offset inflationary pressures. But also choke the economy.

There happy?
Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 12:56 PM (T/vhV)
++++
Racist.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (t0OGg)

346 My favorite Vlad story: some Muslim emissaries showed up with a list of demands and he sent the representatives back with the demands nailed the their foreheads.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (5pTK/)

Also front yard decoration winner 1448-1477

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (OgrpQ)

347 And while we're discussing relentlessly repeated but incorrect themes, the US withdrawal from A'stan took place over years, our presence was down to a minimal one at the end, and the final chapter was *the local military and indeed state collapsing* - NOT any military engagements of any kind involving US or Coalition forces.

And of course some will then instantly completely change the framework and talk about the failure of the overall effort to stand up a sustainable non-hostile regime.

Which has nothing to do with the implication of "getting run out of there by medieval sheep-herders". But whatever.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

348 >>Interesting perspective. I was wondering why Carter Page's $75 million lawsuit against the government wasn't getting anywhere, and you're comment on the matter is as good an answer as I've seen as to why it isn't.

Carter Page had his career and personal life practically destroyed by the FBI. He was an innocent campaign worker who was used to get at the Trump campaign.

I have a friend who spent decades doing international business. He also would give the CIA information on his travels, nothing 007 like, just observations of the environment in the Middle East which was his primary work area. Being a CIA asset doesn't necessarily mean cloak and dagger stuff, a lot of ordinary people are also used.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)

349 After the Viet Nam war, the Army did a serious internal review, beginning with a council of colonels and it worked its way up. They reviewed it all with a view towards fixing what Viet Nam broke.
They were mostly successful.
After 20 years of war and the debacle of Kabul, our military today needs the same thing. Honest officers and NCOs willing to find what is broken and fix it.
I wonder if it is even possible?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (anj39)

350 Did National Review report on the million dollar offer by the FBI?

Posted by: Goatweed at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (0Q/6W)

351 331 I once bought a Punic tunic in Munich from a eunuch.

was it unique?

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (oY6Yp)

352 No, the FISA court has been around for a long time. The Patriot Act just made it easier to use against American citizens.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:54 PM (ZLI7S)

It was for our own good.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (AiZBA)

353 At 62.43 miles, this would yield 6,782 crosses.
I fear this would not be enough.
==
Use both sides of ze crosses?
Posted by: efficiency expert at October 12, 2022 12:57 PM (SHFb5)
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And both sides of the road...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (YIVH2)

354 Kato the Kaelin wanted something to do with Carthage.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (TnqVo)

355 Considering targeting enemy generals was fairly popular and a great way to secure personal advancement, I'd say the group treated as a personal guard on the battlefield is different from the narrower role of dealing with assassins.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 12:57 PM (eYoxG)

If you look at Alexander the Greats 'tactics'... it was primarily based on either decapitating the enemies leadership, or at least making them run...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (oHd/0)

356 The real issue is the Governments War on the Energy sector of the economy. You can't do ANYTHING without energy in a modern economy. Banning oil drilling with NO viable plan in place to take up the slack?

Economic suicide... and the markets are reacting to the suicide note.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (oHd/0)
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That's a parallel issue. The core problem is the funny money that's been sloshing around since 2009 and then going full retard on that insanity during the COVID stupids, combined with an absolutely unchecked, spendthrift government that refuses to acknowledge that rates can move a direction *other* than "down."

Energy is nearly as big a problem, and compounds the hell out of the other problems. Energy also moves fast, which makes it harder to manage.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (t0OGg)

357 Vlad the Impaler
what a character

Posted by: DB at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (geLO8)

358 353 At 62.43 miles, this would yield 6,782 crosses.
I fear this would not be enough.
==
Use both sides of ze crosses?
Posted by: efficiency expert at October 12, 2022 12:57 PM (SHFb5)
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And both sides of the road...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (YIVH2)

Isn't the beltway like 4 lanes wide? Lots of room there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (oHd/0)

359 I once bought a Punic tunic in Munich from a eunuch.

was it unique?
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda

I'll bet it was magnifique!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (CCIJK)

360 Steve Schmidt's twit feed about the Lincoln project "movie" is hilarious.

@TheRickWilson is a brilliant ad maker who clearly should never have any leadership or management responsibilities whatsoever in an organization. His talents should be properly directed.

Before the organization started @TheRickWilson set up a GO Fund me to make a movie 🎥 about Trump. He raised tens of thousands of dollars 💵 and never made the movie. I asked him about it 500 times. No movie. I was not comfortable with this.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (wb1YC)

361 Honest officers and NCOs willing to find what is broken and fix it.
I wonder if it is even possible?
___

Nope.

All the honest ones are being purged.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (FBkLm)

362 The important thing is a secret judge who sits on a secret court reviewing secret evidence against American citizens signed off on a warrant after being provided no other evidence but, *wink* "Trust us."

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (IOhrZ)

363 338 334 Huh. Odd. a DU poster that isn't a total retard. I mean, he's still wrong that raising rates is "folly" (it's overdue and still too slow), but he's largely right about the consequences of the rate increases. Maybe he should consider looking into the root causes of this mess and the consequences of national-scale theft, can-kicking and abject stupidity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 12:55 PM (t0OGg)

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"Government spending doesn't affect inflation. It's corporate greed charging more and Trump's Fed printing money."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:56 PM (LvTSG)

Huge peeve I have about this subject, aimed especially towards the financial reporting community. Bloomberg, for instance, has no problem blaming a schizoid fiscal and monetary UK policy for all that country's current problems, but in the US? Let's pile on the Fed (not like they don't deserve what they're getting), but not one syllable uttered about what Biden's fiscal policy is doing. Same basic result as the UK, but they don't want to say the B---n word ahead of Election Day.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (9miN6)

364
There's a question if the Fed will blink when things start crashing. The last PPI should steel their spines, assuming they actually want to get inflation under control.

I was reading something the other day, the BoE actually did blinkg, and started some mini bond purchases are something to shore up something.

Another thing, the Fed had to open up a swap line to the Swiss central bank. There was some dollar shortage crisis brewing there.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (Mzdiz)

365 Vlad the Impaler
what a character
Posted by: DB

That's what she SAID!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:01 PM (CCIJK)

366 in fairness then what you are saying is the dossier might not be entirely true?

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:01 PM (CJCTv)

367 Vlad the Impaler
what a character
Posted by: DB at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (geLO

He was a little flashier than Vlad the Biscayne.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2022 01:01 PM (Lr5+Z)

368 360 Steve Schmidt's twit feed about the Lincoln project "movie" is hilarious.

@TheRickWilson is a brilliant ad maker who clearly should never have any leadership or management responsibilities whatsoever in an organization. His talents should be properly directed.

Before the organization started @TheRickWilson set up a GO Fund me to make a movie 🎥 about Trump. He raised tens of thousands of dollars 💵 and never made the movie. I asked him about it 500 times. No movie. I was not comfortable with this.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (wb1YC)

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Can everyone even remotely connected to The Lincoln Project just decide to become grocery store clerks, or something?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

369 Bad, evil, tyrannical: Asking the government of Ukraine to not stop investigating a powerful American political figure just because he is connected

Good, awesome, righteous: Paying Russians to dig up dirt on a powerful American political figure

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:01 PM (ESjRY)

370 At 62.43 miles, this would yield 6,782 crosses.
I fear this would not be enough.
==
Use both sides of ze crosses?
Posted by: efficiency expert at October 12, 2022

***
By the time the first 1000 are crucified, the rank-and-file Deep Staters will have gotten the idea ("They're serious!") and fled DC, if not the country. Or opened their veins in the bath. Or OD'd on fentanyl. You might only need to make an example of 2000 or so.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:01 PM (J2vNu)

371 Which has nothing to do with the implication of "getting run out of there by medieval sheep-herders". But whatever.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

In either case it's a matter of making things too costly. The Taliban didn't need to crush US forces to win and Ukraine doesn't need to do so against Russia.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 01:02 PM (eYoxG)

372 If you look at Alexander the Greats 'tactics'... it was primarily based on either decapitating the enemies leadership, or at least making them run...
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (oHd/0)
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It's a time-tested tactic to break the morale of the enemy. If either Putin or Zelensky was removed from power, that would radically change the calculus of the battlefield, even though neither of them is really the general in charge...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 12, 2022 01:02 PM (YIVH2)

373 Gentle Reminder: The SCOTUS leaker has yet to be found.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 12:53 PM (VaSD4)

Roberts immediately had all mirrors removed form SCOTUS crib

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 01:02 PM (us2H3)

374 The fact was that the Page FISA was un-professional, and clearly partisan conduct of the FIB.

If they were anything like these upstanding, stalwart, consummate professionals that the DC overlords and their media toadies demand we find them, it wouldn't have happened.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 01:02 PM (krQz2)

375
Can everyone even remotely connected to The Lincoln Project just decide to become grocery store clerks, or something?

Very few sexy sexy boys coming through the register line you know.

Posted by: The North American Man Boy Lincoln Project at October 12, 2022 01:02 PM (ESjRY)

376 After 20 years of war and the debacle of Kabul, our military today needs the same thing. Honest officers and NCOs willing to find what is broken and fix it.
I wonder if it is even possible?
Posted by: Diogenes

Step 1. Don't let the politicians fight the war.
Step 2. Kill people and break things.
Step 3. See step 2.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:02 PM (CCIJK)

377 After 20 years of war and the debacle of Kabul, our military today needs the same thing. Honest officers and NCOs willing to find what is broken and fix it.

not enough diversity and LBGTBBQ+ representation obviously. we need more funding for DEI training

Posted by: Joint Chiefs at October 12, 2022 01:02 PM (lO5WT)

378 "@ProjectLincoln played an enormous role in helping defeat MAGA in 2020. It has become a self interested shell of that organization under the selfish and dishonest management of @reedgalen."

Steve has obvious delusions of adequacy.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (wb1YC)

379 No, the FISA court has been around for a long time. The Patriot Act just made it easier to use against American citizens.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:54 PM (ZLI7S)

Real culprit IMO, was breaking down the barriers between foreign and domestic intelligence. When the FBI uses 'contractors' (as proven during the unmasking hearings) to peruse the NSA database? WITHOUT a Warrant from FISA?

That opened the door to domestic abuse.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (oHd/0)

380 There's a question if the Fed will blink when things start crashing. The last PPI should steel their spines, assuming they actually want to get inflation under control. ...
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (Mzdiz)
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They will try to prevent the markets from crashing, but I think they're fine with managing the decline down over a number of years. They're not going to fail to defend the dollar because the stock markets go down and borrowing gets more expensive.

The real question in my mind is whether they'll decide to sacrifice the dollar to prop up the US federal government or the European banking sector.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (t0OGg)

381 I bought a turban in Durban from a guy in a Suburban.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (dxllA)

382 362 The important thing is a secret judge who sits on a secret court reviewing secret evidence against American citizens signed off on a warrant after being provided no other evidence but, *wink* "Trust us."
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (IOhrZ)

So a Star Chamber.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (eYoxG)

383 Worded correctly should be "FBI tried to pay $1 to overthrow legitimate election"

A spy agency doing this is literally the insurrection Democrats have been searching for.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (7Ia3u)

384 Step 1. Don't let the politicians fight the war.
Step 2. Kill people and break things.
Step 3. See step 2.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:02 PM (CCIJK)

And I think we just found our Review Board President.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (anj39)

385 The real issue is the Governments War on the Energy sector of the economy. You can't do ANYTHING without energy in a modern economy. Banning oil drilling with NO viable plan in place to take up the slack?
Economic suicide... and the markets are reacting to the suicide note.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (oHd/0)

That would cause inflation through supply issues, but we also have a business cycle that is collapsing as a bubble, so Twofer one

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (xhaym)

386 >Wish I had a million dollars.

Wouldn't you rather have a monkey?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)

Might get a K-car. A nice, Reliant automobile.

Posted by: DaisyB at October 12, 2022 01:04 PM (AbL8c)

387 Can everyone even remotely connected to The Lincoln Project just decide to become grocery store clerks, or something?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)
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Being a grocery store clerk requires a level of competence to which the Lincoln Project types cannot, even in their wildest dreams, hope to achieve.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:04 PM (t0OGg)

388 Steve Schmidt's twit feed about the Lincoln project "movie" is hilarious.

Apparently the movie isn't complementary about the National Man-Boy Lincoln Association.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 01:04 PM (ZGrMX)

389 Vlad the Impaler
what a character
Posted by: DB at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (geLO

He was a little flashier than Vlad the Biscayne.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2022

***
His cousins Vlad the Caprice and Vlad the Belair were no slouches, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:04 PM (J2vNu)

390 Could well have missed something, but not aware of any connection between stupidly named Patriot Act and FISA abuses. And no, FISA was created decades before stupidly named Patriot Act.

Anyway, correction would be welcomed on the first point, but it would have to be very specific (like language of the law and specific examples of how it had an effect).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 01:04 PM (OTzUX)

391 341 319 I've never told this story here, but I was involved in a fragging. Our hooch in Nam had room for just one more, and a Corporal checked in. He was a postal clerk. One thing led to another, and somebody rolled in a frag one night. The Corporal was later seen with SSgt chevrons, and later, departing in Vietnam Civvies ( Khakis and aloha shirt with a .3

. Guy was CID, and we didn't know. Couple of friends got hurt real bad.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 12, 2022 01:04 PM (lz5hY)

392 I have leftist family watching the hearings with baited breath every night. I do not understand this mentality, when it's all a clear kabuki farce, but to each their own

Posted by: LizLem at October 12, 2022 01:05 PM (7d7br)

393 Vlad the Impaler
what a character

What most people don't know was Vlad was also a stand up comedian. He slayed 'em wherever he went.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 12, 2022 01:05 PM (Bd6X8)

394 24 Is everyone in the FBI the smoking man from X-Files?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 12, 2022 12:12 PM (eGTCV)

Nah, he was cool. The FBI smokes Parmesan cheese.

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at October 12, 2022 01:05 PM (cv2yY)

395 "Rates will head down... as soon as the Fed realizes they crashed the economy."

the "experts" are mixed on whether Powell will "blink" at some point (soon) ... but many think he will not. Certainly the most political pressure would be on him right now ... they had that "emergency meeting", but he did not seem to blink.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2022 01:05 PM (Cus5s)

396 A nice, Reliant automobile.
Posted by: Daisy

in fairness, reliant and reliable, not the same thing

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:05 PM (CJCTv)

397
Chicago Fed President Evans said something like, "If unemployment goes up, that's unfortunate. If it goes up a lot, that's really very difficult. But price stability is the goal". Something like that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:05 PM (Mzdiz)

398 I recall aright, they refused to remove their turbans. So Vlad made sure said turbans would never fall off.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 12:55 PM (J2vNu)
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Now that you mention it, you're probably correct.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (5pTK/)

399 348 >>Interesting perspective. I was wondering why Carter Page's $75 million lawsuit against the government wasn't getting anywhere, and you're comment on the matter is as good an answer as I've seen as to why it isn't.

Carter Page had his career and personal life practically destroyed by the FBI. He was an innocent campaign worker who was used to get at the Trump campaign.

I have a friend who spent decades doing international business. He also would give the CIA information on his travels, nothing 007 like, just observations of the environment in the Middle East which was his primary work area. Being a CIA asset doesn't necessarily mean cloak and dagger stuff, a lot of ordinary people are also used.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)

I get it JS, but not a peep about the lawsuit? Bobulinski is still making noises after he was shafted a year ago, but Page can't get one sympathetic news outlet to hear him out on what he's been through? I don't watch the network news, so I could certainly have missed something, but I just don't get it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (9miN6)

400 "Name me a president in recent history that’s gotten as much done as I have in the first two years. Not a joke. The vast majority of the American people do like what I got done."
-- Joseph Robinette Biden

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (a3Q+t)

401 Honest officers and NCOs willing to find what is broken and fix it.
I wonder if it is even possible?
___

All the honest ones are being purged.
Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:00 PM (FBkLm)
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A federally-controlled hierarchy of career mercenaries is a recipe for disaster, because there is always the risk 'the wrong men' will take charge of it.

Hitler won the war, just not how he thought. He spread fascism to America by creating a crisis big enough to justify the current standing US Military. Prior to WWII, presidents had to have the support of state governors to bring the full might of the American military to bear against an enemy. Now, he doesn't even bother to get Congressional authorization.

This is the slippery slope of maintaining this standing army.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (IOhrZ)

402 Off Topic; I just exited NAS Jacskonville, cars were being stopped and searched in front of a banner sign reading, "Anti-Terrorist Team". Stop and Search Authorized... I'm thinking they are going after anyone who might be an Oath Keeper.

Posted by: dc at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (u0crE)

403 I have leftist family watching the hearings with baited breath every night. I do not understand this mentality, when it's all a clear kabuki farce, but to each their own

in fairness, it is pro wrestling for idiots

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (CJCTv)

404 Considering targeting enemy generals was fairly popular and a great way to secure personal advancement, I'd say the group treated as a personal guard on the battlefield is different from the narrower role of dealing with assassins.
Posted by: Red Turban Somegu
_______________

Baltimore was probably saved in 1814 when a sharpshooter took out Ross.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (SIZS3)

405 in fairness, it is pro wrestling for idiots
Posted by: confederatefifth
___

heh

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:07 PM (FBkLm)

406 I've never told this story here, but I was involved in a fragging. Our hooch in Nam had room for just one more, and a Corporal checked in. He was a postal clerk. One thing led to another, and somebody rolled in a frag one night. The Corporal was later seen with SSgt chevrons, and later, departing in Vietnam Civvies ( Khakis and aloha shirt with a .3. Guy was CID, and we didn't know. Couple of friends got hurt real bad.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 12, 2022

***
I suspect his real name was Col. Flagg.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:07 PM (J2vNu)

407 >>Real culprit IMO, was breaking down the barriers between foreign and domestic intelligence. When the FBI uses 'contractors' (as proven during the unmasking hearings) to peruse the NSA database? WITHOUT a Warrant from FISA?

That is exactly why Admiral Rogers shut down the FISA process. He found that the FBI was allowing multiple unauthorized contractors to view the raw data.

The real scandal here as far as I'm concerned is not even the 2016 election as bad as that was. The fact is we have no idea how long the FBI/DOJ/CIA/LMNOP has been doing this shit and likely much worse.

We need a Church Committee on steroids to find out how deep this rabbit hole goes.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 01:07 PM (ZLI7S)

408 Nathan Wurtzel 🤡

"For the record, I was gone when that Confederate cooler story hit. I had MANY doubts prior to that, but you give friends the benefit of them...until it's no longer possible.

Frankly, I am mad at myself for not following my gut when I was asked to erase a certain Tweet."

Posted by: Azathoth at October 12, 2022 01:07 PM (wb1YC)

409 the "experts" are mixed on whether Powell will "blink" at some point (soon) ... but many think he will not. Certainly the most political pressure would be on him right now ... they had that "emergency meeting", but he did not seem to blink.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2022 01:05 PM (Cus5s)
++++
The Fed has a long, rich history of deferring decisions and playing politics until things finally go tits-up, at which point they finally defend the Dollar at all costs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:08 PM (t0OGg)

410 SMH!!

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:08 PM (CJCTv)

411 Alexander the Great had better infantry and better cavalry then his enemies, if often less numerically.

He'd get them stuck on his infantry then hit them with his cavalry.

Note 60% of the time this works all the time in the Total War series.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:08 PM (ESjRY)

412 I bought a turban in Durban from a guy in a Suburban.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (dxllA)

Try getting some from Big Booty Judy and her friend Tooti in Djibouti.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:08 PM (yHsuS)

413 I have leftist family watching the hearings with baited breath every night. I do not understand this mentality, when it's all a clear kabuki farce, but to each their own

No offense to your family but when people say "that can't happen here", as in whether Nazi-ism/Fascism or Communism can happen here...it can. And people like that are the reason.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 12, 2022 01:09 PM (rPOSk)

414 Off Topic; I just exited NAS Jacskonville, cars were being stopped and searched in front of a banner sign reading, "Anti-Terrorist Team". Stop and Search Authorized... I'm thinking they are going after anyone who might be an Oath Keeper.

Posted by: dc at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (u0crE)

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I expect this to be the Brave New Normal nationwide. #Soon.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 01:09 PM (7OJ7b)

415 Carter Page was flat-out denied jurisprudence.

Comey robbed him of substantive due process.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 01:09 PM (krQz2)

416 >We need a Church Committee on steroids to find out how deep this rabbit hole goes.

would you trust its findings?

Posted by: DB at October 12, 2022 01:09 PM (geLO8)

417 "Name me a president in recent history that’s gotten as much done as I have in the first two years. Not a joke. The vast majority of the American people do like what I got done."
-- Joseph Robinette Biden
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (a3Q+t)

That statement alone should show everyone how bad his dementia is.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (M+Lyo)

418 Vlad the Impaler
what a character
Posted by: DB at October 12, 2022 12:59 PM (geLO
*
He was a little flashier than Vlad the Biscayne.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2022

***
After Vlad's notable success, other countries came along with Vlad the Imperial and Vlad the Galaxie 500, later to be renamed Vlad the LTD.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (J2vNu)

419 "Name me a president in recent history that’s gotten as much done as I have in the first two years. Not a joke. The vast majority of the American people do like what I got done."
-- Joseph Robinette Biden

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 12, 2022 01:06 PM (a3Q+t)

Dude is a retarded lying demeted gasbag.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (VwHCD)

420
And while we're discussing relentlessly repeated but incorrect themes, the US withdrawal from A'stan took place over years, our presence was down to a minimal one at the end, and the final chapter was *the local military and indeed state collapsing*
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It did take years - years of a corrupt regime with no intention of winning a war, but of profiting politically and financially from one.

This is why I call them warmongers, rhomboid. It's not that Iraq and A'stan were prima facie "bad wars." That's kind of the point. The conmen selling us on them used the fact that they were noble efforts to perpetuate the scam. People like Bush and Obama knew they could hook up a large number of marks using patriotism as bait.

They didn't want to win. They wanted the shit to drag out as long as possible. And when that's the point behind your strategy, you inevitably *will* lose.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (oINRc)

421 If they're offering reward money seems like the laptop repair shop guy should be set for several lifetimes.

Imagine if they offered rewards for proof of vote tampering.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (RbHzr)

422 Jan Sobieski, Charles Martel, Josey Wales. Just thinking here, boss!

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (0OP+5)

423 the "experts" are mixed on whether Powell will "blink" at some point (soon) ... but many think he will not. Certainly the most political pressure would be on him right now ... they had that "emergency meeting", but he did not seem to blink.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2022 01:05 PM (Cus5s)

Tom Luongo thinks that Powell and the FED heads are fighting to keep the USD out of hyperinflation and its loss as an international currency. If the world goes to a digital currency, or even if the US goes to a central bank digital currency the banks get frozen out of the position they have of being able to create money through loans, backed by the FED.
They are also not averse to seeing the Euro and the Pound take a dump.

They like being the money tree and won't give it up without a fight.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (xhaym)

424 >>>@TheRickWilson is a brilliant ad maker who clearly should never have any leadership or management responsibilities whatsoever in an organization. His talents should be properly directed.

Wonder how many Confederate flags he will post in the "film?"

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (VWp7G)

425 U.S. Army Identifies 18-Year-Old Active Soldier Found Dead in Her Barracks – Cause of Death Unknown
https://tinyurl.com/2s3v5ejz

18-Year-Old Marine Recruit Dies After Collapsing During Training Exercise at Camp Pendleton
https://tinyurl.com/2s3v5ejz

Let me know when the perfumed princes in the five-sided nuthouse admit that the clot shot is killing these kids.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (FBkLm)

426 Lol. People are calling Wurtzel a Trump supporter and he is suggesting that a state's attorney general look into Schmidt's accusations.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 12, 2022 01:11 PM (DzlN6)

427 411 Alexander the Great had better infantry and better cavalry then his enemies, if often less numerically.

He'd get them stuck on his infantry then hit them with his cavalry.

Note 60% of the time this works all the time in the Total War series.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:08 PM (ESjRY)

He basically pioneered the cavalry charge. His infantry is more a credit to his father and the Greeks more generally. Cavalry up to that point was more skirmish oriented and often reliant on ranged weapons.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 12, 2022 01:11 PM (eYoxG)

428 Dow and NASDAQ look slipping S&P upward by the thousandth.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 12, 2022 01:11 PM (e72DJ)

429 Alice from Dallas gave me a callus on my phallus

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 01:11 PM (us2H3)

430 They didn't want to win. They wanted the shit to drag out as long as possible. And when that's the point behind your strategy, you inevitably *will* lose.

Outside of the Gulf War which was sort of a win, we haven't won a war since WWII.

Why? Because we keep trying the same stupid strategy.

By the time of 'Stan no one could argue they thought it would work.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:11 PM (ESjRY)

431 I bought a turban in Durban from a guy in a Suburban.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:03 PM (dxllA)

You sure it wasn't durban wearing a turban while driving a suburban?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 01:12 PM (VwHCD)

432 Speaking of Cletus, this may be one of the most hilarious movie scenes ever - https://tinyurl.com/48y43ard

Posted by: Mama Klump at October 12, 2022 01:12 PM (Xrfse)

433 254 It's worth noting that all of these FBI shenanigans were enabled by Dubya's Patriot Act. Boy was that a mistake.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 12:44 PM (ZGrMX)

The "Patriot" Act was no mistake.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 12, 2022 01:12 PM (pkTq0)

434 Perez gave me a fez in Los Angelez.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at October 12, 2022 01:12 PM (24fqN)

435 But the FIB and Gulag Garland are now warping the warrant process, because they could not specify that Trump had committed a crime and what evidence they were seeking when the raided Mar-a-Lago.

It should be odious to more people that a former president's home was raided with an un-Constitutional general warrant.

Next thing you know Congress will pass a law "clarifying" that provision against "Bills of Attainder" were never mean to apply to Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 01:12 PM (krQz2)

436 Chicago Fed President Evans said something like, "If unemployment goes up, that's unfortunate. If it goes up a lot, that's really very difficult. But price stability is the goal". Something like that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:05 PM (Mzdiz)

I'm trying to figure out how, if 300K PLUS illegals crossed the border last month, and we had another 100K LEGAL immigrants.... and created 194,000 new jobs...

HOW THE HELL DOES THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE GO DOWN?

Its all about the labor participation rate... not the unemployment rate... Unemployment rate is a political Macgoffin.. Oh, and the Labor participation rate? Fully 2% lower than the start of the pandemic.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:12 PM (oHd/0)

437 ***
After Vlad's notable success, other countries came along with Vlad the Imperial and Vlad the Galaxie 500, later to be renamed Vlad the LTD.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, d

They were going to name the Lancer the Impaler at first, but Lancer was preferred by focus groups.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (RbHzr)

438 @420

>>They didn't want to win. They wanted the shit to drag out as long as possible.

As soon as everyone understands and internalizes that the Government and Uniparty is run in a manner reminiscent to The Tiki Lounge in GoodFellas, all will become crystal clear.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (up/3i)

439 Tom Luongo thinks that Powell and the FED heads are fighting to keep the USD out of hyperinflation and its loss as an international currency. If the world goes to a digital currency, or even if the US goes to a central bank digital currency the banks get frozen out of the position they have of being able to create money through loans, backed by the FED. ...
Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (xhaym)
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This is a huge deal, and the junta's response to Russia has dealt the current international finance regime a potentially mortal blow. Kicking the Russians out of SWIFT may well prove to be a catastrophic error. When you can get kicked out of dollar settlement with no notice, settling in dollars is suddenly going to have to factor in to your risk assessments, and alternatives might well be deemed neccessary.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (t0OGg)

440 And while we're discussing relentlessly repeated but incorrect themes, the US withdrawal from A'stan took place over years, our presence was down to a minimal one at the end, and the final chapter was *the local military and indeed state collapsing*

Funny how it was minimal, yet we left $80 BILLION in material behind. Wouldn't one take it out with them or at the very least, de-mil it?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (CCIJK)

441 Be a shame.....

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (bkf/+)

442 >>I get it JS, but not a peep about the lawsuit? Bobulinski is still making noises after he was shafted a year ago, but Page can't get one sympathetic news outlet to hear him out on what he's been through? I don't watch the network news, so I could certainly have missed something, but I just don't get it.

He was on with Maria Bartiromo a couple weeks ago. He's being blackballed, his story is very inconvenient for a lot of people. Mostly those who called him a Russian agent, they aren't going to go back on that and make themselves look stupid.

The courts, with few exceptions, are not our friends either. And that goes double for anything near DC. This whole thing should have been over by now but we are up against a large, embedded enemy who holds almost all the levers of real power. Take the wins and keep exposing them. Our best ally right now is exposing this in a way that can't be denied.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (ZLI7S)

443 Oops,

Marine link:
https://tinyurl.com/2jykbauw

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (mVFGK)

444 Next thing you know Congress will pass a law "clarifying" that provision against "Bills of Attainder" were never mean to apply to Trump.
Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 01:12 PM (krQz2)

that bird has already flown with the 'Sanctions' against Russian Citizens who are not even government officials.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (oHd/0)

445 A less generous person would view the $1 million the FBI offered Christopher Steele to verify his dossier as true as a bribe to do just in spite of everyone knowing it was phony and not an example of the FBI doing everything possible to act as a fair hand while saving the country from Russian misinformation (*wink*, *wink*). Dare I say this is a difference without distinction?

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (3rD2r)

446 Hey everyone! Just got back from eye surgery. Basically, they make an incision, flush out all the goo, and replace it. Believe it or not, it’s not as fun as it sounds.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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One word: Eye drops

Seemingly, incessantly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (m/T6g)

447
He basically pioneered the cavalry charge. His infantry is more a credit to his father and the Greeks more generally. Cavalry up to that point was more skirmish oriented and often reliant on ranged weapons.

Phillip set the stage for Alexander's success a point often lost. I suspect he also would have defeated the Persians, though being more risk adverse more slowly.

Of course after Alexander died his whole family was wiped out and the land divide among his generals and others so...likely a more cautious approach would have been a better one.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (ESjRY)

448 18-Year-Old Marine Recruit Dies After Collapsing During Training Exercise at Camp Pendleton

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:10 PM (FBkLm)

RIP.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (yHsuS)

449 ShainS @ 414-
I guess those days of getting a room at shortstay while traveling are gone for good.

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (0OP+5)

450 If we mount a cross every fifty feet, how long a stretch of the beltway will be required to hoist the entire Deep State bureacracy, and their hangers-on in the Propaganda Press (plus, pedophile NeverTrumpers)?
Show your work.
Posted by: Sulla at October 12, 2022 12:27 PM (KcPPs)

I mean, if you don't want to limit yourself it is about 225 Miles from DC to New York on I-95

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (xhaym)

451 Perez gave me a fez in Los Angelez.
Posted by: For gp

So he sez.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:15 PM (CCIJK)

452 We need a Church Committee on steroids to find out how deep this rabbit hole goes.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 01:07 PM (ZLI7S)

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Right through the Center of the Earth and into China.

We're gonna need a bigger shovel & shit-bucket ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 01:15 PM (JNPgJ)

453 406 Sorry, Wolf, dead serious.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 12, 2022 01:15 PM (lz5hY)

454 318
My favorite Vlad story: some Muslim emissaries showed up with a list of demands and he sent the representatives back with the demands nailed the their foreheads.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (5pTK/)

There is a lesson in this for us. Be more like Vlad.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (N39Ws)

455 This is a huge deal, and the junta's response to Russia has dealt the current international finance regime a potentially mortal blow. Kicking the Russians out of SWIFT may well prove to be a catastrophic error. When you can get kicked out of dollar settlement with no notice, settling in dollars is suddenly going to have to factor in to your risk assessments, and alternatives might well be deemed neccessary.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (t0OGg)

Yup, other countries looked at that and said, 'if the US can do that to a Nuc Power?... where does that leave US'.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (oHd/0)

456 that bird has already flown with the 'Sanctions' against Russian Citizens who are not even government officials.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (oHd/0)
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Fuckin' Democrats. They ruin everything.

As long as they can keep something near a 50% share in power, this country is going to eventually die the death of 1 million Dems and collapse into a shit heap.

Posted by: Axeman at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (krQz2)

457
Yup, other countries looked at that and said, 'if the US can do that to a Nuc Power?... where does that leave US'.

Somehow President Stink Fingers has managed to get every other non-European power in the world on better terms with each other and worse with us...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (ESjRY)

458 Nood clot shot

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:18 PM (ESjRY)

459 Phillip set the stage for Alexander's success a point often lost. I suspect he also would have defeated the Persians, though being more risk adverse more slowly.

Of course after Alexander died his whole family was wiped out and the land divide among his generals and others so...likely a more cautious approach would have been a better one.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022

***
He was pretty young, and had been born to the purple, as they say -- his father was king of Macedonia, and Alexander was raised and trained in the full expectation that he would be the next king. Cautious counsel he might well have shrugged off, believing he was darn near invincible.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:18 PM (J2vNu)

460 Duke Lowell, Mrs. E had right eye cataract removed yesterday, surgeon pronounced 20-20 this morning. He prescribed drops til they're all used, clear lense glases on starboard for one month, then do the other eye. And no boxing.

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2022 01:18 PM (0OP+5)

461 This is a huge deal, and the junta's response to Russia has dealt the current international finance regime a potentially mortal blow. Kicking the Russians out of SWIFT may well prove to be a catastrophic error. When you can get kicked out of dollar settlement with no notice, settling in dollars is suddenly going to have to factor in to your risk assessments, and alternatives might well be deemed neccessary.
Posted by: J

in fairness, no, the russians do not have enough money to matter and "may yet" is very broad

nobody wants to be in a banking cartel regulated by the chinese, russians, and indians, including the russians and indians

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (CJCTv)

462
Somehow President Stink Fingers has managed to get every other non-European power in the world on better terms with each other and worse with us...
Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (ESjRY)

And in Europe, only because they are somehow even stupider than our government. The fact that they can't see they're being hustled is almost funny. Almost. If it weren't for the fact that we'll likely end up in the next war as a result of the shenanigans.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (oINRc)

463 Vlad skewered his critics.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (dxllA)

464 [Carter Page] was on with Maria Bartiromo a couple weeks ago. He's being blackballed, his story is very inconvenient for a lot of people. Mostly those who called him a Russian agent, they aren't going to go back on that and make themselves look stupid.

The courts, with few exceptions, are not our friends either. And that goes double for anything near DC. This whole thing should have been over by now but we are up against a large, embedded enemy who holds almost all the levers of real power. Take the wins and keep exposing them. Our best ally right now is exposing this in a way that can't be denied.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (ZLI7S)

I decided to take a look at the news. Turns out that Bloomberg's Erik Larson published something today, "Trump Grievance Over Carter Page Surveillance Is Focus of Trial". You'd think that with that headline you'd see a mention of the $75 million lawsuit, especially after Larson explicitly writes that Page was an innocent man. Ctrl-F yields nada on that, however. Completely memoryholed.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (9miN6)

465 206 If you erect 10 gallows on the mall and make them tie their own noose with a loop at both ends while they stand in line. They step up on the platform, noose around the neck, loop over a hook on the crossbar, open the trap door, snap the neck, cut the rope, close the door, repeat. You could get through a couple hundred per hour.
=====
I think a katana would be much more satisfying.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 12, 2022 01:28 PM (JNTt1)

466 First we need some gallows. Second they must become well used.

Posted by: KillGoogleandFacebook at October 12, 2022 01:42 PM (U9oYo)

467 The only solution is to End the Fed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 12, 2022 12:52 PM (LvTSG)
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Perhaps we quit asking the fed to worry about employment and just the focus on maintenance of the currency.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (xWZcb)

468 103 >>Wish I had a million dollars.

Wouldn't you rather have a monkey?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)

*****

If I had a monkey, I would play the accordian on the street and he would collect money from strangers.

That's how I'd get a million dollars.

Posted by: EFG at October 12, 2022 02:34 PM (Ae67h)

469 Who said Carthage must be destroyed? I get my Romans mixed up.
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Dean Martin, I believe.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 12:47 PM (D8mow)

Cato the Elder

Posted by: Oldcat at October 12, 2022 02:49 PM (eoQWY)

470 This is a huge deal, and the junta's response to Russia has dealt the current international finance regime a potentially mortal blow. Kicking the Russians out of SWIFT may well prove to be a catastrophic error. When you can get kicked out of dollar settlement with no notice, settling in dollars is suddenly going to have to factor in to your risk assessments, and alternatives might well be deemed neccessary.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (t0OGg)

Yup, other countries looked at that and said, 'if the US can do that to a Nuc Power?... where does that leave US'.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (oHd/0)

The asset seizures without trial of Russian civilians didn't help either. Again, how to trust Western institutions after that?

Posted by: Oldcat at October 12, 2022 02:51 PM (eoQWY)

471 From Twitter: My guess is that the FBI didn't offer Tony Bobulinski $1 million to corroborate the laptop.

Posted by: GB at October 12, 2022 03:05 PM (fJb/S)

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Posted by: www.Profit97.Com at October 12, 2022 03:36 PM (hlGk+)

473 So who in the FBI, DOJ, dhimmierat party, the media will pay for these lies and slanders?

Posted by: A. Landmesser at October 12, 2022 07:50 PM (EcD5Y)

474 At this time I аm going away to do my breakfast,
later than having my breakfast coming agаin tο
read additional news.

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The FBI Offered Disgraced Stooge of Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska, Christopher Steele, $1 Million if He Could Prove That His "Dossier" Claim Were True.
The Very Generous Bounty Remains Uncollected.