The Morning Rant: Battling RINO Republicans Who Maintain Power in Deep-Red States

It is disappointing and frustrating, but there are conservative states that are deep-red when the votes are counted for statewide elections, yet they remain under the political control of liberals - albeit under the Republican banner.

You may know Mark Pulliam from his website, Misrule of Law (misruleoflaw.com), which is often linked or discussed at conservative websites, or from legal articles he’s written for a variety of conservative publications.

One reason I’ve followed his writing closely is that like me, he is a refugee from a loony, left-wing city who moved to deep-red East Tennessee. Here in Tennessee, he’s found that the GOP old-boy network is not very interested in the conservative agenda or fighting the culture wars that caused Tennesseans to vote overwhelmingly for Donald Trump. In other words, much of the state GOP would rather join the Chamber of Commerce in advancing the left’s cultural agenda than battling to stop the left’s agenda.

Pulliam decided to try to be part of the solution, so he ran in Blount County (suburban/exurban Knoxville) for a spot on the State Executive Committee of the Tennessee Republican Party. He ran as a write-in candidate and he won the race this past August.

The establishment would not stand for it, so even though the Tennessee Secretary of State had certified Pulliam as the winner, the state GOP retroactively nullified his eligibility and stripped his victory from him.

I’m going to circle back to Mark Pulliam in a moment, but this is an opportunity for me to write about something that’s been gnawing at me, and it relates to Pulliam’s situation.

Liberals and political opportunists who would be comfortable running for office as Democrats in blue or purple states tend run for office as Republicans in deep-red states. It’s the only way they can get elected. In the most recent Republican primary in my county, a little digging revealed that several candidates for down-ballot races (judgeships, commissioners, etc) were clearly not conservative, but the person who wins the Republican primary will win the general election. Name recognition is the most important thing in those races, so if a liberal can get a lot of yard signs out (funded by liberals and Democrats), he is likely to be the Republican nominee, which means he’ll win the general election.

In Hamilton County, TN, the Trump-bashing, RINO son of a former Republican Congressman won the Republican primary for mayor with only 35% of the vote.

Before Weston Wamp decided to run for this office, he courted the national media and received glamour treatment as a “young conservative” who dared to police other Republicans for questioning Joe Biden’s immaculate, fraud-free election. This was in The New Yorker:

Weston Wamp, a young conservative from Tennessee, is on a mission to convince others on the right that Joe Biden won the 2020 election

He subsequently decided to run for county mayor, riding his familiar last name and the lingering popularity of his father among Republicans. He also had a plan, it seemed, to get Democrats to vote in the GOP primary.

His two conservative opponents took 65% of the vote, but with strong election-day turnout for Wamp in heavily Democrat precincts, and with no runoff, he squeaked to a victory over Sabrina Smedley.

Stay with me, this is where things are about to circle back to Mark Pulliam’s battle with the Tennessee GOP State Executive Committee, and their bias toward liberals.

Ms. Smedley appealed to the State Executive Committee to overturn Wamp’s victory, citing "illegal Democratic crossover voting." She also accused Democrats of "party raiding in our election" at the behest of the Wamp campaign. The Executive Committee rejected her appeal, and certified Wamp as the winner.

At the time I thought that Wamp’s election was regrettable and dishonest, but that it was still legitimate. Wamp was able to get left-wing Democrats to vote in the Republican primary, successfully gaming the system which allows crossover voting. He won his stealth victory due to the state Republican Party not closing the primary. As preferable as it would have been for Smedley to become mayor, I thought it would have been inappropriate and a bit of a stretch for the Executive Committee to overturn Wamp’s victory.

But then I read about Pulliam’s battle, and how that same Executive Committee had no trouble overturning his election.

In this “Misrule” article, Pulliam discusses the extraordinary actions of the state GOP in stripping him of his victory.

Why are the apparatchiks in charge of the Tennessee Republican Party (TRP) so opposed to my election? The stated grounds for objecting to my write-in win to a seat on the SEC [State Executive Committee] —something that apparently has never previously occurred – is that I am not a “bona fide” Republican, as defined by the TRP bylaws. People who know me may be surprised by that claim. I am a lifelong Republican. I have voted in every election since 1976, and have never voted for a Democrat in a contested partisan election. I have been active in GOP politics my entire adult life, in Texas, California, and Tennessee. I have walked precincts, watched polls, attended state conventions, held county party offices, volunteered at GOP headquarters, donated to candidates, attended fundraisers, manned phone banks, and been active in many grassroots organizations. I personify the committed GOP activist. If I am not “bona fide,” no one is.
What, then, is the basis for overturning my election? As I smacked down each spurious charge, others popped up, in Whac-A-Mole fashion. In only the most casual manner, I learned that other “objections” to my election were being raised—by whom, I was never told. My alleged “sins”? I failed to pay a $100 “registration fee” to the TRP for GOP candidates whose name will appear on the Republican primary ballot. As a write-in candidate, my name was not on the GOP primary ballot (hence the term “write-in”, and in a June 15 telephone conversation the TRP’s Political Director confirmed that no fee was due in the case of a write-in. The TRP then changed positions and—weeks after the election–TRP Chairman Scott Golden claimed that I was delinquent in paying the $100. I promptly paid the $100. Too late, the TRP exclaimed! The election would be overturned…

If the state GOP could overturn Pulliam’s primary election on the preposterous grounds that he is not a “lifelong Republican,” then they could certainly overturn Wamp’s primary victory, considering that Wamp had been badmouthing Republicans to the national press, and because he only captured his 35% plurality because of Democrats voting in a Republican primary.

There are other deep red states (Texas, Utah, and probably many others) in which much of the Republican leadership is clearly hostile to the agenda of the party’s conservative base. It’s not enough to beat the Democrats in general elections if Republican party leadership wants Democrats to win in GOP primary elections. We’ve still got a lot of work to do here in solid-red states to keep liberals out of power.

If you’d like to read more about Mark Pulliam’s battle against the Tennessee Republican Party, here is his most recent opinion piece.

“The Establishment Strikes Back, Purging the MAGA Agenda in Tennessee” [The Tennessee Conservative – 10/04/2022]

(buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com)

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Rich Baris has realeased his poll of Arizona. Polling all conducted before last night's debate.

Kelly and Masters are effectively tied (45.6 to 45.2), with about 7% undecided.

Pretty much incoveivable that the undecideds will break for Kelly now, especially after Masters won the debate.

Looks like Masters will win this by 2 or 3.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:00 AM (CoKDD)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at October 07, 2022 11:00 AM (Ex42F)

3 Hi

Posted by: Ciampino - - - FL = Snow Capital of the USA at October 07, 2022 11:00 AM (qfLjt)

4 Hi sponge

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 07, 2022 11:00 AM (yCJ7J)

5 Hah, and got a first too

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:01 AM (CoKDD)

6 1 Pretty much incoveivable that the undecideds will break for Kelly now, especially after Masters won the debate.

Looks like Masters will win this by 2 or 3.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:00 AM (CoKDD)

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*fingers crossed*

Let's get a do nothing Congress!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

7 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at October 07, 2022 11:01 AM (295vO)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

9 From the last thread:

At a campground, it took about 5 days to fully charge their F-150 using a standard 120 outlet. The truck also already had 22 percent battery when the charging started.

https://bit.ly/3MeUlCU
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 07, 2022 10:44 AM (NlFlr)

They didn't give you any stats the next day when the truck was supposed to be fully charged. He even set a timer, but never told how long it actually took on the 240v camper plug to charge the vehicle.

Fail.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

10 I'm waiting until after 100 to address the amazing EV dumbassery at the end of the last thread, but holy moly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:04 AM (KETMo)

11 I doubt the kinds of games will work. There is a lot of legal precedent that if the voters vote for someone, they are the winner.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:05 AM (CoKDD)

12 In other words, much of the state GOP would rather join the Chamber of Commerce in advancing the left’s cultural agenda than battling to stop the left’s agenda.

One thing that I think we should really push for...what with the scourge of globalism warmification and all...is to stop sending politicians to DC. Surely they can remain in their home districts, or at least their home states, and conduct business. It's time to stop giving people to the opportunity to betray their neighbors in an effort to join the shiny crowd.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:05 AM (zhLdt)

13 Looks like Masters will win this by 2 or 3.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:00 AM (CoKDD)

I think I'm going to need a doctor in about four hours.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 07, 2022 11:07 AM (XIJ/X)

14 The establishment would not stand for it, so even though the Tennessee Secretary of State had certified Pulliam as the winner, the state GOP retroactively nullified his eligibility and stripped his victory from him.
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Typical. Good 'ole boyism is a problem wherever you have utterly dominant machinery. Where I grew up in CO was a deep red county and the Republican machinery was hopelessly corrupt. We once had a candidate running for the county commission and she ran as a Democrat to bypass that machinery. Her platform was *incredibly* conservative but she could not get into the local Republican machine as an outsider. She is probably the most conservative "Democrat" who has ever appeared on a ballot anywhere in the country.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 07, 2022 11:08 AM (t0OGg)

15 There are other deep red states (Texas, Utah, and probably many others) in which much of the Republican leadership is clearly hostile to the agenda of the party’s conservative base.

John Cornyn says what?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:08 AM (ayzS/)

16 Tennessee is retarded and their shit is all fucked up.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 07, 2022 11:08 AM (j40lz)

17 13 Looks like Masters will win this by 2 or 3.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:00 AM (CoKDD)

I think I'm going to need a doctor in about four hours.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 07, 2022 11:07 AM (XIJ/X)

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We'll see how Maricopa County reacts to this news.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:08 AM (LvTSG)

18 11 I doubt the kinds of games will work. There is a lot of legal precedent that if the voters vote for someone, they are the winner.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:05 AM (CoKDD)

It's a primary. There tends to be a great deal of flexibility in how the parties run their primaries.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 07, 2022 11:09 AM (eYoxG)

19 Just Republicans wearing their party affiliation on their sleeves like, I surmise, they wear their religious affiliations the same way (and violating as many commandments as they can). Too venal (and/or stupid) to actually do some research on those for whom they'd vote. Not serious people whom you could depend on in an emergency.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 07, 2022 11:09 AM (KAi1n)

20 Utah is deep red? The state of Mittens and McMuffin?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2022 11:10 AM (gGoLy)

21 Any state in which the GOP has an open primary is a state that elects squish GOPes and stealth Democrats for all important offices. This is intentional.

Posted by: Furious George at October 07, 2022 11:10 AM (CkFy6)

22 The corruption is far, wide and deep. Like John Holmes at an orgy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

23 Some of my friends are Republicans.
*pause
Lolol

Posted by: Typical Democrat at October 07, 2022 11:11 AM (Y274z)

24 JUST WAIT till they bring the 'ranked choice' voting bullshit to a state near you........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

25 There are other deep red states (Texas, Utah, and probably many others) in which much of the Republican leadership is clearly hostile to the agenda of the party’s conservative base. It’s not enough to beat the Democrats in general elections if Republican party leadership wants Democrats to win in GOP primary elections. We’ve still got a lot of work to do here in solid-red states to keep liberals out of power.
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Shenanigans like you've described would, in another time, result in somebody winding up face-down in a ditch only to be discovered some days or weeks later. Tennessee has a history of this, too, and the "Battle of Athens" is a prime example. Corrupt machinery is a serious problem in any area with significant margins.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 07, 2022 11:11 AM (t0OGg)

26 My district (VA-10) has a really compelling candidate, and you can read about him here:

https://tinyurl.com/n3bsxzwm

Listen to the 2nd clip, in which a "reporter" asks him if Biden won the election. It's obviously a gotcha question, but he handled it beautifully. I'm sure he knows that Biden and the Dems stole the election, but he acknowledges that Biden is the president (which wasn't really the question), then sticks the knife in.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:11 AM (ayzS/)

27 Never underestimate the power of the Gospel of Christ to change a person. And remember the effectual fervent prayers of those in the will of God ARE answered. Christians are just sinners saved by God who most always change their lives to reflect their love and gratitude for that salvation.

And while you're there, mentally, remember King Herod, the guy whose soldiers--on his command--slaughtered the children of Bethlehem, died of gangrene in his "tender vittles", as one might say. In the book I, Claudius, Herod succumbed to a disease that had symptoms described as “putrescent stomach, corpse-like breath, maggots breeding in the privy member, and a constant watery flow from the bowels causing inflamed madness.”

Make sure you know which side you're on.

You may now return to your normal reading.

Posted by: setnaffa at October 07, 2022 11:12 AM (bYETr)

28 Sorry, didn’t read the content sufficiently before posting. My question actually proves Buck’s point.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2022 11:12 AM (gGoLy)

29 State GOPs suck.

They are hopelessly corrupt, and no one cares because the local news doesn't cover it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:12 AM (LvTSG)

30 Excellent post, Buck. Specifics, facts, an actual real story that illustrates a much bigger point.

Or a few.

One of which is sort of the one I harp on endlessly. The nation is crippled, if not doomed, by an unserious and distracted or lazy electorate, which combined with a mostly dead two-party system*, leaves it vulnerable to exactly what you describe. The final piece of the toxic puzzle is the lack of any real press in most of the country any more.

* the two-party "system" is technically just a de facto situation, not a system, but inertia makes it effectively a stranglehold on actual elective politics in most cases

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:12 AM (OTzUX)

31 the only answer is for a strong conservative or even just plain anti-Left candidate to emerge as a third option.

Locally, there was a zoning/development issue and the GOP commissioner was on the side of the developer and against the neighbors. So one of the neighbors ran for commissioner, as an Independent, even though he was GOP, and he won.

So now chicanery from the GOP political embeds could touch him. He did not run for office under their banner.

Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2022 11:12 AM (dCxaZ)

32 24 JUST WAIT till they bring the 'ranked choice' voting bullshit to a state near you........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
______________

Happy-Go-Lucky Lisa Murkowski thinks you're a threat to our precious democracy, Sponge.

Posted by: Furious George at October 07, 2022 11:13 AM (CkFy6)

33 There have been complaints like this about the Republican Party for decades now. Something similar to this could have been written in 1977, 1996, 2007....

Posted by: JROD at October 07, 2022 11:14 AM (0jZnq)

34 The Herod of Matthew’s gospel was Herod the Great. The Herod of I, Claudius was his descendant Herod Agrippa. Different Herods.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2022 11:14 AM (gGoLy)

35 Tennessee is right next door to that fucked up state that rejected a true conservative for that fucking turtle dude.

It's also a host for Algore.

Posted by: torabora at October 07, 2022 11:14 AM (Y274z)

36 I'm waiting until after 100 to address the amazing EV dumbassery at the end of the last thread, but holy moly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:04 AM (KETMo)

It's MooMoo/Xiden...why bother? He's a one trick pony. Everything is an argument, and he is full of shit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 07, 2022 11:15 AM (XIJ/X)

37 Col. Travis and I were discussing yesterday how one of the biggest problems in Texas politics is that while the Texas State Senate is reliably conservative, the State House is still controlled by the GOP-e/Chamber of Commerce types. Probably because House numbers are dominated by Dallas/Houston etc pols. This makes getting any significant legislation passed very difficult.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:15 AM (trdmm)

38 Herod succumbed to a disease that had symptoms described as “putrescent stomach, corpse-like breath, maggots breeding in the privy member, and a constant watery flow from the bowels causing inflamed madness.

Is there a code for that?

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 07, 2022 11:15 AM (j40lz)

39 Sabrina Smedley and Weston Wamp?

Sounds like characters in an Archie and Veronica comic book.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 07, 2022 11:15 AM (cPDW+)

40 here in MA, we don't worry about things like this

Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2022 11:15 AM (us2H3)

41 Kelly said "abortion is a woman's right." Masters replied "Right to do what?"

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 07, 2022 11:15 AM (OgrpQ)

42 John Cornyn proves this theory. Along with Eye Patch McCain

Posted by: Stacy0311 at October 07, 2022 11:15 AM (VfLe7)

43 The Gormless Old Prats are not in any way a "conservative" party. They absolutely no interest in actually advancing or defending any real conservative agenda or person. It's lip service only, if that. How is this possibly still a surprise to anybody???

Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at October 07, 2022 11:15 AM (cDITE)

44 One thing that I think we should really push for...what with the scourge of globalism warmification and all...is to stop sending politicians to DC. Surely they can remain in their home districts, or at least their home states, and conduct business. It's time to stop giving people to the opportunity to betray their neighbors in an effort to join the shiny crowd.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:05 AM (zhLdt)

My plan is that each state is responsible for building and maintaining a dorm in DC to house their senators and representatives. They will be required to live in the dorm while Congress is in session. The dorm will be closed when out of session and all Congress critters required to stay in their state during that time. They get two weeks of vacation where they can leave the state.

Posted by: WiNO - Now Fortified with Fraud at October 07, 2022 11:16 AM (EpDzw)

45 My question is, how do the liberals communicate? They take over every organization that does not actively guard against them. So what is the secret handshake? Is there an organization that they work through?

Posted by: Realdan at October 07, 2022 11:16 AM (MaPaX)

46 34 The Herod of Matthew’s gospel was Herod the Great. The Herod of I, Claudius was his descendant Herod Agrippa. Different Herods.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2022 11:14 AM (gGoLy)

They were kind of like Louis' in France.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:16 AM (trdmm)

47 Joe Mannix, you just made me think of something. 2020 was in some ways a national Battle of Athens - difference being that no good guys showed up to do anything. On the contrary.

For those interested, the Battle of Athens is a fascinating event that took place in post-WWII Tennessee, where war veterans literally took up arms to nullify a wildly corrupt stolen election. It's an amazing story - and one I find a bit depressing in today's America - which seems like a completely different planet, in terms of civic culture.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:16 AM (OTzUX)

48 38 Herod succumbed to a disease that had symptoms described as “putrescent stomach, corpse-like breath, maggots breeding in the privy member, and a constant watery flow from the bowels causing inflamed madness.

Is there a code for that?
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So Herod ate Mexican food?

Posted by: Puddinhead Custer at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (xSnmX)

49 Is there an organization that they work through?
Posted by: Realdan at October 07, 2022 11:16 AM (MaPaX)

I've heard it referred to by the initials FB.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (trdmm)

50 Wasn’t there a congressman named Zach Wamp at one time?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (gGoLy)

51 Buck, this is a great post that describes exactly why we find ourselves in current political nightmare. In a word, the Uniparty. Evidently there is no limit to the trickery, chicanery, string-pulling, obfuscation and downright criminality that the GOPes will resort to in order to keep out Those Not In The Club.

In PA the state GOP is just ridiculous. The former head was a big fan of Trump but was so stupid as to not recognize a honeytrap when he sniffed one, and as a result his texts back and forth to her were published front page of the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (dCxaZ)

52 JUST WAIT till they bring the 'ranked choice' voting bullshit to a state near you........

Portland has ranked-choice voting on the ballot, to elect 12 city council members (up from 5) in four multi-member districts.

The official propaganda is that ranked-choice voting will make it easier to elect "moderates".

Which is weird, because every hard-Left, cop-hating, Antifa-supporting individual and group in Portland is furiously supporting the ranked-choice voting proposal.

Because it will elect "moderates".

I've been making snarky comments on a local Reddit:

"If you want to know what to think about ranked-choice voting, just look at who is supporting it."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (I2/tG)

53 The only reason that Murcowski exists is because of the Alaskan GOP.

And look at how they smacked Palin around.

Our #1 problem is GOP itself. Any doubt? Rona McDaniels

Posted by: torabora at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (Y274z)

54 John Cornyn proves this theory. Along with Eye Patch McCain

Right. Texas GOP isn't even as remotely conservative as people think. Actually often not conservative at all.

Posted by: brak at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (j5Tg0)

55
David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

Your expectations are FAR exceeded whenever you manage to get the tweezers on your microdick in order to be able to pee into the toilet bowl, sitzpinkler.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (pNxlR)

56 17
'We'll see how Maricopa County reacts to this news.'

They'll react to the news by slowing down its vote count and then adding in mail in ballots.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (q3iUt)

57 Wasn’t there a congressman named Zach Wamp at one time?

I think he was the star of Scrubs.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:18 AM (ayzS/)

58 One thing that I think we should really push for...what with the scourge of globalism warmification and all...is to stop sending politicians to DC. Surely they can remain in their home districts, or at least their home states, and conduct business. It's time to stop giving people to the opportunity to betray their neighbors in an effort to join the shiny crowd.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:05 AM

puh-leez. have you ever been to Wyoming?

Posted by: Liz Cheney at October 07, 2022 11:18 AM (ENBF0)

59 If this nation were blessed with anything resembling a free press, the Uniparty gopes would not feel emboldened or enabled to do their dirty deeds.

Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2022 11:18 AM (dCxaZ)

60 Some people just want to see the world burn!

Posted by: Volodymyr Zelensky! at October 07, 2022 11:19 AM (I2/tG)

61 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.

Well, you're a blithering idiot, so......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)

62 puh-leez. have you ever been to Wyoming?

Posted by: Liz Cheney

Have you?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:19 AM (ayzS/)

63 So Herod ate Mexican food?
Posted by: Puddinhead Custer at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (xSnmX)

Yeah, sounds like a weekend in TJ.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 07, 2022 11:19 AM (j40lz)

64 10
If whoever can't understand:

Potential Energy (tank of gas) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Potential Energy (any battery),
then they are unteachable.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 07, 2022 11:20 AM (q3iUt)

65 Tennessee was on the list of my retirement states, but after reading this, why would I bother? If I want RINOs who are actually leftists, I can stay in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:20 AM (d2bW3)

66 Wheeeeeee!

Posted by: The Dow at October 07, 2022 11:21 AM (ayzS/)

67 The national GOP's depredations in MS to keep Thad Cochran in his seat were of course jaw-dropping, and vastly more outrageous than even the example Buck brings us.

And yet many pretended to believe it was normal, and rationalized it as just traditional hard-ball politix.

The tribal, unthinking grip of party affiliation is a key element in America's largely dead politics.

The MS event should have led to an earthquake in the GOP that unseated or marginalized the idiots involved. Instead, bupkis.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:21 AM (OTzUX)

68 So more people named Al and fewer named Elihu.

I approve.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 07, 2022 11:21 AM (cupoy)

69 Wyatt,

Because East TN got Marsha Blackburn elected. It's still a good place to retire.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 07, 2022 11:22 AM (5HBd1)

70 I know many people who are leaving blue states for TN. It's so conservative, they say. Well, be careful. The same GOP pathologies that helped destroy CA and IL and NYC are present there. And you will have to vigilant.

Posted by: Ultra pj at October 07, 2022 11:22 AM (G1dq6)

71 Posted by: Realdan at October 07, 2022 11:16 AM (MaPaX)

they don't need a secret society, they have the advantage of a "news" media that lies for them, covers up their crimes, carries their water and propagandizes them all out of earthly proportion.

If the TN media shone their light on the criminality that Buck describes, the local GOPe apparatus might have a different approach to the Pulliam election. If they all of a sudden have to answer questions to the media, maybe they'd get their minds right.

Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2022 11:22 AM (dCxaZ)

72 My fellow Americans, we are now in the worst nuclear crisis since the Cuban Missile Crisis forty years ago.

I didn't bother to tell you this from the Oval Office - I told rich Democrats at a fundraiser.

Because they deserved to be warned, and you do not.

'Scuse me while I head for the Doomsday Plane, enroute to my secure bunker.

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden, Supreme Warlord! at October 07, 2022 11:23 AM (I2/tG)

73 54 . . . Right. Texas GOP isn't even as remotely conservative as people think. Actually often not conservative at all.
Posted by: brak
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It seems like a lot of Southern states have squishy GOP leadership. For years, most GOP candidates for statewide office were Chamber of Commerce types and frequently to the left of the Democrat.

Posted by: Furious George at October 07, 2022 11:23 AM (CkFy6)

74 >>>Wyatt,

Because East TN got Marsha Blackburn elected. It's still a good place to retire.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward

Guess that matters more, because I think Blackburn is mostly great.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:24 AM (d2bW3)

75 The other problem with this ranked choice nonsense is that you wind up with 15-30 candidates running. It's insane and the majority have no business being on the ballot.

I know little about KS politics, other than they suck. I will do what I can here to turn the tide.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 07, 2022 11:24 AM (5HBd1)

76 73 It seems like a lot of Southern states have squishy GOP leadership. For years, most GOP candidates for statewide office were Chamber of Commerce types and frequently to the left of the Democrat.
Posted by: Furious George at October 07, 2022 11:23 AM (CkFy6)

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Good Ole' Boy networks don't die overnight.

They change their stripes, but they keep their networks in place, rewarding insiders. It's all about maintaining their seat at the trough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

77 Did it really take the election of Donald Trump to unveil the RINOs?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 07, 2022 11:26 AM (eGTCV)

78 The MS event should have led to an earthquake in the GOP that unseated or marginalized the idiots involved. Instead, bupkis.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:21 AM (OTzUX)

I knew someone a couple decades ago who had some business dealings with Trent Lott, Mississippi Senator at the time and short term US Senate Majority leader. Told me that Lott was unbelievably corrupt, every deal he did was pay to play and kickbacks all the way. Highest bidders got the most favors, nobody cared one bit about political ideology, that was just for the chumps at election time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:26 AM (trdmm)

79 77 Did it really take the election of Donald Trump to unveil the RINOs?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 07, 2022 11:26 AM (eGTCV)

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I think we all knew, but Trump's rise to power within the party revealed how deep the rot really went.

But, more importantly, it gave Republican voters an alternative choice without going Democrat or hopeless third parties.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:27 AM (LvTSG)

80 I think I'm going to need a doctor in about four hours.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 07, 2022 11:07 AM

Together, we can help.

Posted by: Lena Dunham & Cora Segal at October 07, 2022 11:27 AM (a3Q+t)

81 The GOPe in every state is a flaming pig shit pile.

Im trying to think of one that isnt and drawing a blank.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2022 11:27 AM (3Lw3j)

82 What were Hogg Boy's expectations?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 07, 2022 11:27 AM (eGTCV)

83 >>>Did it really take the election of Donald Trump to unveil the RINOs?

Posted by: That NLurker guy

Yes. They hated that Trump was an outsider, and it broke their brains.Look at how many politicians we thought were at least competent who showed their asses after Trump was elected.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:27 AM (d2bW3)

84 The president again warned of nuclear war.

Even Trump never got anywhere near this milestone.
Next, they will tell us that Biden can't be impeached and removed over starting a nuclear conflict.

Posted by: SMOD at October 07, 2022 11:27 AM (RHGPo)

85 78 I knew someone a couple decades ago who had some business dealings with Trent Lott, Mississippi Senator at the time and short term US Senate Majority leader. Told me that Lott was unbelievably corrupt, every deal he did was pay to play and kickbacks all the way. Highest bidders got the most favors, nobody cared one bit about political ideology, that was just for the chumps at election time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:26 AM (trdmm)

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But Trump was the real corruption because he kept his hotels open!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:27 AM (LvTSG)

86 I think I'm going to need a doctor in about four hours.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Did you stick something up there ?

"Million to one shot Doc !"

Posted by: JT at October 07, 2022 11:28 AM (T4tVD)

87 Could be misremembering, but I think Blackburn beclowned herself but good on January 6. But that just means that, like the rest of the GOP (all of it, effectively), and key institutions, she's just not fit to deal with the current realities.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:28 AM (OTzUX)

88 The other problem with this ranked choice nonsense is that you wind up with 15-30 candidates running. It's insane and the majority have no business being on the ballot.

The key thing is that ranked-choice voting can elect people who never would have been able to win a two-person runoff election. That's why loony radicals are in love with it.

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden, Supreme Warlord! at October 07, 2022 11:28 AM (I2/tG)

89 >>But, more importantly, it gave Republican voters an alternative choice without going Democrat or hopeless third parties.

We are the ones we have been waiting for.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2022 11:28 AM (ZLI7S)

90 Look at the Ben Sasse's replacement talk going on about Nebraska. Nothing but RINO's. Nebraska.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 07, 2022 11:29 AM (qH6FZ)

91 Yeah, it's the usual EV nonsense on the last thread. Here's what I would like to see discussed: all these years, there has been a push for higher fuel efficiency cars. They last longer, run cleaner and are safer. After all that time and effort, we are told it's just not enough, throw it all out for a type of vehicle that is not ready for prime time, without the infrastructure to support it.

Same is true of the coal industry. We can burn coal cleanly now, yet they act like that technology doesn't exist. And we let them get away with it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 07, 2022 11:29 AM (5HBd1)

92 Highest bidders got the most favors, nobody cared one bit about political ideology, that was just for the chumps at election time.

Build the dang wall!

Posted by: Zombie John McCain, Only In Election Years! at October 07, 2022 11:29 AM (I2/tG)

93 >>>"Million to one shot Doc !"

Posted by: JT

It's fusilli Charlie!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:30 AM (d2bW3)

94 The president again warned of nuclear war.

Even Trump never got anywhere near this milestone.
Next, they will tell us that Biden can't be impeached and removed over starting a nuclear conflict.
Posted by: SMOD at October 07, 2022

Has David French made the conservative case for nuclear war?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 07, 2022 11:30 AM (eGTCV)

95 Corruption in politics has a long storied history. Robert Heinlein wrote a book summarizing his experiences dealing with machine politics (Take Back Your Government) and a helpful primer on doing that.

Corruption occurs because a) there is money involved and b) power. Both of those can get you sex as well. So same old, same old.

But, there is a counter--form your own party clubs and use those to dominate politics in your area. Be ruthless in expelling those attempting to use the party club for its own means by using the caucus method as described in Heinlein's book. Work and give money to the incorruptible candidates on your ballot, especially in primaries.

The machines have the money, the slick ads, etc. but if given a choice, a substantial number of voters will reject those machine politics and their corrupt politicians outside of urban areas where often massive fraud is involved.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:30 AM (CXr4y)

96 >>> There are other deep red states (Texas, Utah, and probably many others) in which much of the Republican leadership is clearly hostile to the agenda of the party’s conservative base.

*Mitt Romney enters the chat*

A brilliant ad of three white women chatting around a table, knocking McMuffin calling Utah republicans racist, was released. It's the perfect tone and message, but the real kicker is it calls out his actual statements. So naturally he's suing to get it off the air.

Regular looking white women in an ad, gossiping politics and saying the RINO thinks they are too stupid to remember his record... this is a good tack to take to try and get the white suburban wine moms. I hope other conservative PACS take note.

Posted by: LizLem at October 07, 2022 11:30 AM (+mkOR)

97 Buck has hit the nail on the head.
1. Chamber Pot Republicans rule because they control the primary. You must show up at the meeting usually held after the polls are closed where they elect and vote on issues - That's where the influence is.
_- Rand Paul has written excellent pieces on what and how to take back the primary.

2. Turn out the vote. Wherever you live go back to any election and check out the number of votes v the number of possible voters. It. Will. Shock. You.
Turn out the vote is essential.

Thanks Buck

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 07, 2022 11:30 AM (iam1O)

98 The media is more concerned with the Brady-Bundchen conflict than a nuclear conflict.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (lf83v)

99 91 Yeah, it's the usual EV nonsense on the last thread. Here's what I would like to see discussed: all these years, there has been a push for higher fuel efficiency cars. They last longer, run cleaner and are safer. After all that time and effort, we are told it's just not enough, throw it all out for a type of vehicle that is not ready for prime time, without the infrastructure to support it.

not only that but the hybrid concept - a combo of combustion engine and electric - worked pretty well? why was that totally discarded?!?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (w0NJk)

100 Lott just oozed corruption, notably so among his colleagues at the time. One even picked that up as a staffer when he was in the Senate.

And TJM, Trump didn't rise in the GOP, he came in from outside and seized their top nomination, an extraordinary thing. A key difference, perhaps. Maybe even *the* key difference.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (OTzUX)

101 Lott was unbelievably corrupt, every deal he did was pay to play and kickbacks all the way.

Wow. If you can't trust a male college cheerleader, who can you trust?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (ayzS/)

102 Tear out the corruption - root and branch

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (fs1hN)

103 Has David French made the conservative case for nuclear war?

The Conservative Case For A Preemptive Nuclear Strike Against Russia.

Posted by: David Fwench! at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (I2/tG)

104 Yes, we do have a multitude of problems in the GOP

but we have no one the helm better than Ronna to solve them

Posted by: REDACTED at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (us2H3)

105 I'm pretty sure TN isn't the only place where this sort of shit goes down. It's also why I have serious doubts about "voting" as a viable method to alter the political course.

Sure, some places and political entities might be overhauled by an influx of actual Republican/conservative candidates but when your local "Republican" party is made up of leftists you've got a real problem.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (BFigT)

106 68 So more people named Al and fewer named Elihu.

I approve.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 07, 2022 11:21 AM (cupoy)

***********

Hear, hear!

How could shoe salesmen be any worse than what we already have?

Posted by: Al Bundy at October 07, 2022 11:32 AM (xxG/v)

107 100 And TJM, Trump didn't rise in the GOP, he came in from outside and seized their top nomination, an extraordinary thing. A key difference, perhaps. Maybe even *the* key difference.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (OTzUX)

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Fair.

An outsider was not allowed. Maybe if he had run for governor of NY first (and lost, definitely if he had lost).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:32 AM (LvTSG)

108 >>>Wow. If you can't trust a male college cheerleader, who can you trust?

Posted by: Archimedes

But his hair was perfect...

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:32 AM (d2bW3)

109 Some idiot has surely posted a tweet about how comforting it is to have Senile Joe's hand at the wheel as the world approaches the nuclear precipice.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (eGTCV)

110 Open primaries are such a stupid idea.

You dilute the vote of your party members...intentionally.

I guess the theory is that you'll get more moderate, "electable" candidates but...there are few areas where you could make that argument, and honestly you could only really ever make a case in blue areas...not red ones.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (ESjRY)

111 Hiya Wyatt !

Posted by: JT at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (T4tVD)

112 Maricopa has a Republican supervisor of elections now.

I know it is popular to trot out cheating memes about Maricopa, mail in ballots, and Dominion. 2020 was egregious and it is human nature to expect to get beaten with a 2x4 again.

But I prefer to look at what is possible, not dream up nightmare scenarios that aren't realistic.

Philly posting 200K fake ballots? - realistic

Deep state canceling elections? - not realistic

Cheating in AZ this year will have to come from Pima County.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (2tOLy)

113 75 The other problem with this ranked choice nonsense is that you wind up with 15-30 candidates running. It's insane and the majority have no business being on the ballot.

I know little about KS politics, other than they suck. I will do what I can here to turn the tide.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward
___________

Any time you read of Kansas being a "deep red state," rest assured that you're reading something written by someone who doesn't have a clue what they're talking about. Pretty much any Republican governor there has been followed by a Democrat governor since the early 60s.

Bob Dole is still described as a strong conservative there. A few years back, a GOP governor running for re-election was endorsed by the Sierra Club.

Posted by: Furious George at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (CkFy6)

114 The Conservative Case For A Preemptive Nuclear Strike Against Russia.

Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed.

But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops.

Uh, depending on the breaks.

Posted by: General Milley, Heading For His Bunker! at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (I2/tG)

115 The key thing is that ranked-choice voting can elect people who never would have been able to win a two-person runoff election. That's why loony radicals are in love with it.
Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden, Supreme Warlord! at October 07, 2022 11:28 AM (I2/tG)

I think the key part is that it's so complicated that whoever is doing the counting can end up declaring whoever they want as the eventual winner.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (trdmm)

116 81
Indiana checking in.
Pigshit pile is burning bright!

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (q3iUt)

117 Wow. If you can't trust a male college cheerleader, who can you trust?

________________

Oh, it's on!

Posted by: Marco Rubio at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (lf83v)

118 Look at the Ben Sasse's replacement talk going on about Nebraska. Nothing but RINO's. Nebraska.

I don't know any of them, so I'll withhold judgement until more is known. However, if the NE GOP has a brain in its head, it will realize that sticking another squish in there will abso-f***ing-lutely guarantee a strong conservative challenger in '24.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (ayzS/)

119 It seems like a lot of Southern states have squishy GOP leadership. For years, most GOP candidates for statewide office were Chamber of Commerce types and frequently to the left of the Democrat.
Posted by: Furious George at October 07, 2022 11:23 AM (CkFy6)

The South used to be solidly Democrat. When the electorate changed, any number of aspiring politicians changed their labels without changing their actual positions. The fact that those on our side of the political aisle want nothing so much as to think about politics as little as possible, this has been effective.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (zhLdt)

120 Do any of you 29 year-olds remember a book: The Secret Life of Plants?

well now we have the time-lapse photography to document their shenanigans:

https://tinyurl.com/45wapvf9

Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (dCxaZ)

121 >>>Hiya Wyatt !

Posted by: JT

Morning JT!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (d2bW3)

122 why was that totally discarded?!?

Cheeseburgers?

Because the goal is to impoverish you and take away your freedom.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (KFhLj)

123 102 Tear out the corruption - root and branch
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (fs1hN)

Only way to keep it from happening again is to neuter the power of the government. With power comes money and that will draw these assholes forever and all like honey.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (CwQXo)

124 Open primaries are a fucking joke. Any state that has them is not even remotely serious.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (3Lw3j)

125 112 Deep state canceling elections? - not realistic

Cheating in AZ this year will have to come from Pima County.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (2tOLy)

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I was assured that elections were going to be canceled. I was assured!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (LvTSG)

126 Yeah, it's the usual EV nonsense on the last thread. Here's what I would like to see discussed: all these years, there has been a push for higher fuel efficiency cars. They last longer, run cleaner and are safer. After all that time and effort, we are told it's just not enough, throw it all out for a type of vehicle that is not ready for prime time, without the infrastructure to support it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward

*

This is a fantastic point and one that is often missed. We've pretty much perfected the internal combustion engine. So lets get rid of it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (KETMo)

127 My fellow Americans, we are now in the worst nuclear crisis since the Cuban Missile Crisis forty years ago.

I didn't bother to tell you this from the Oval Office - I told rich Democrats at a fundraiser.

Because they deserved to be warned, and you do not.

'Scuse me while I head for the Doomsday Plane, enroute to my secure bunker.

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden, Supreme Warlord! at October 07, 2022 11:23 AM (I2/tG)
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Now we know who will be receiving that nearly $300 million in radiation sickness drugs you just purchased with our great-great grandchildren's taxpayer dollars.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 07, 2022 11:35 AM (fppa6)

128 But I prefer to look at what is possible, not dream up nightmare scenarios that aren't realistic.

But....it's so much fun!
*dons tinfoil chapeau*

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:35 AM (ayzS/)

129 Posted by: LizLem at
October 07, 2022 11:30 AM (+mkOR)

There's mean money and big money poured into local politics. A burner is Louie Gohmert solid conservative for years then all of a sudden he's not running for his solid seat but in a local election.

He's running in an election not to win but as a stalking horse to throw the vote to George P. Bush.
There was a lot going on there and nobody's talking.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 07, 2022 11:35 AM (iam1O)

130 "Weston Wamp" . . . the name is all you need to know

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 07, 2022 11:35 AM (iFTx/)

131 The other problem with this ranked choice nonsense is that you wind up with 15-30 candidates running. It's insane and the majority have no business being on the ballot.

A significant portion of voters do no research, even for the highest priority elections.

Ranked choices assumes that ALL the voters have not only researched every candidate running for president, senate, governor, etc but the same for county clerks, state reps, and the like.

And trust me I've tried to do detailed analysis on some of these low end races and there is often NO information...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM (ESjRY)

132
Cheating in AZ this year will have to come from Pima County.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (2tOLy)

And Pima County only has a population of 1 million, while Maricopa has 4.4 million. Kind of limits what they can do with Pima.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM (trdmm)

133 Sara Lee, WWE 'Tough Enough' winner and former NXT wrestler, dead at 30

Duncan Hines was unavailable for comment

Posted by: SMOD at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM (RHGPo)

134 >>>"Weston Wamp" . . . the name is all you need to know

Posted by: Elric Blade

Wasn't that the missile system from Spies Like Us?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM (d2bW3)

135 Republican In Name Only Republicans? Can't we just shorten this, and call them Bill Kristols?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 07, 2022 11:37 AM (CCf67)

136 Has David French made the conservative case for nuclear war?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 07, 2022 11:30 AM (eGTCV)

Waiting for the check to clear. -- David French, warrior elite.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:37 AM (zhLdt)

137 I'm waiting until after 100 to address the amazing EV dumbassery at the end of the last thread, but holy moly.
--
It's MooMoo/Xiden...why bother? He's a one trick pony. Everything is an argument, and he is full of shit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

**

Yeah, good point. I mainly like to do it so that other readers and lurkers get actual facts on the topic.

We got confirmation that he owns a real car for when he needs a real car to do real car stuff, though, so that's good.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:37 AM (KETMo)

138 >>>Duncan Hines was unavailable for comment

Posted by: SMOD

Nobody doesn't like Sara Lee!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:37 AM (d2bW3)

139 "Same is true of the coal industry. We can burn coal cleanly now, yet they act like that technology doesn't exist. And we let them get away with it."

"Climate" idiocy is the greatest, most comprehensive threat to freedom and prosperity in our lifetimes. And it incorporates every pernicious, vile pathology plaguing the country: totalitarian impulses, corruption of institutions, collapse of education.

Even Trump, the incredible outsider and black swan of American politics, punted on the issue when it arose (Paris Accord withdrawal, rationale for). His EPA was just starting to address some of the foundations of the idiocy when the virus catastrophe happened, and then an invisible opponent with no campaign managed to produce voting patterns never before seen in our history and take the WH.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:37 AM (OTzUX)

140 Wasn't that the missile system from Spies Like Us?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM (d2bW3)

No, that was Vanessa Angel's bra.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 07, 2022 11:38 AM (CwQXo)

141 I have told the Russians that only nuclear strikes against red areas are acceptable.

You touch our blue cities, and you are toast!

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden, Supreme Warlord! at October 07, 2022 11:38 AM (I2/tG)

142 I didn't bother to tell you this from the Oval Office - I told rich Democrats at a fundraiser.

I think the problem from the left's perspective with starting a nuclear war with Russia it is there LIVs that are mostly going to die.

If Vlad nukes DC, NYC, and SF he is mostly hitting clot shotted, sexual science loving, tranny supporters.

If they could get Vlad to nuke flyover country we'd already have had a nuclear exchange

Posted by: 18-1 at October 07, 2022 11:38 AM (ESjRY)

143 Duncan Hines was unavailable for comment
Posted by: SMOD at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM (RHGPo)
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Does he at least have an alibi?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 07, 2022 11:38 AM (YIVH2)

144 And the asshole that is essentially charged with maintaining a fair election in PA (hahahahaha) is Shapiro, who is running for gov. and did fuck all about the blatant fraud in 2020 as AG. Good times

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2022 11:38 AM (3Lw3j)

145 Open primaries are a fucking joke. Any state that has them is not even remotely serious.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (3Lw3j)

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"Ranked-Choice Voting in all States!"

-- Idiots of Alaska and Maine

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 07, 2022 11:39 AM (fppa6)

146 132
Cheating in AZ this year will have to come from Pima County.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (2tOLy)

And Pima County only has a population of 1 million, while Maricopa has 4.4 million. Kind of limits what they can do with Pima.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM (trdmm)

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"Pima County had 3.2 million voters out of a 1 million population. If you think there's something wrong with this, you are a racist."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:39 AM (LvTSG)

147 He's running in an election not to win but as a stalking horse to throw the vote to George P. Bush.
There was a lot going on there and nobody's talking.

Posted by: Braenyard
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People get tired of fighting the machine so often join it.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:39 AM (CXr4y)

148 >>>No, that was Vanessa Angel's bra.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

She was crazy stupid gorgeous.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:40 AM (d2bW3)

149 >>"Weston Wamp" . . . the name is all you need to know

Sounds straight out of Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2022 11:40 AM (ZLI7S)

150 He's running in an election not to win but as a stalking horse to throw the vote to George P. Bush.
There was a lot going on there and nobody's talking.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 07, 2022 11:35 AM (iam1O)

well that's old news - Louie lost and so did George P, and now Paxton is a lock for re-election. Personally, it looked to me that Gohmert totally lost interest in being in Congress somewhere about the middle of the Covid mess; he use to have regular local meetups with supporters and they all just stopped. Don't know why he thought the quixotic AG race could work, but I think that was his off ramp.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:40 AM (trdmm)

151 And trust me I've tried to do detailed analysis on some of these low end races and there is often NO information...

It's easy. Just see who the teachers unions endorse, and then vote for the other guy.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2022 11:40 AM (I2/tG)

152 Sara Lee, WWE 'Tough Enough' winner and former NXT wrestler, dead at 30

Duncan Hines was unavailable for comment
Posted by: SMOD at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM (RHGPo)

***

I don't get it...

Posted by: Betty Crocker at October 07, 2022 11:41 AM (flINI)

153 Sara Lee was a bitch.

Posted by: Betty Crocker at October 07, 2022 11:41 AM (3Lw3j)

154 >>>And the asshole that is essentially charged with maintaining a fair election in PA (hahahahaha) is Shapiro, who is running for gov. and did fuck all about the blatant fraud in 2020 as AG. Good times

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

I'm sure he'll monitor elections and clean them up after he wins. /eyeroll He also promised to clamp down on Larry Krasner's anarchy, and... did nothing.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:41 AM (d2bW3)

155 South Carolina is probably the bluest of the ostensibly deep red states. The "leadership" here for at least one of our counties actually IGNORED the election results and literally called any anti-establishment Republicans "lepers." Then they proceeded to tell us they were going to basically retain all of the power for that county and run it "in the shadows," and that's what they've been doing. The deception and corruption runs THICK through South Carolina. It's sickening.

Posted by: LeftyMagnet at October 07, 2022 11:42 AM (iYyBg)

156 She was crazy stupid gorgeous.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:40 AM (d2bW3)

Yes. Plus she had just the right look at that age. After she looks to plasticy. Here she looked like a beautiful, sexy natural redhead. Did not have a single line, I think.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 07, 2022 11:42 AM (CwQXo)

157 61 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.

Well, you're a blithering idiot, so......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)

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Biden's exceeded my expectations, too. I didn't think he'd still be president.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at October 07, 2022 11:42 AM (uPgE/)

158 So, massive cheating, enough to sway the outcome, in Pima - realistic?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:42 AM (OTzUX)

159 Reuters article on the Chain of Command for a Russian nuclear strike:

shorturl.at/hprtU

It's from March. I have heard that Russian Generals are standing firm on the 2020 nuclear doctrine, despite the authority of Putin to give the command to launch.

Under the doctrine, the justification for launch is:

-- the use of nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction against Russia or its allies;
-- data showing the launch of ballistic missiles aimed at Russia or its allies;
-- an attack on critical government or military sites that would undermine the country's nuclear forces response actions;
-- the use of conventional weapons against Russia "when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy"

Posted by: Marco Rubio at October 07, 2022 11:42 AM (lf83v)

160 "Weston Wamp" . . . the name is all you need to know

Sounds straight out of Atlas Shrugged.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2022 11:40 AM (ZLI7S)
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...or Harry Potter

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 07, 2022 11:43 AM (YIVH2)

161 >>>Yes. Plus she had just the right look at that age. After she looks to plasticy. Here she looked like a beautiful, sexy natural redhead. Did not have a single line, I think.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

Donna Dixon looked like a homeless woman compared to Vanessa.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:43 AM (d2bW3)

162 Off Marco Rubio male cheerleading sock!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 07, 2022 11:43 AM (lf83v)

163
Sara Lee, WWE 'Tough Enough' winner and former NXT wrestler, dead at 30

Duncan Hines was unavailable for comment
Posted by: SMOD at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM

another grim milestone for the biden administration

Posted by: al at October 07, 2022 11:43 AM (ENBF0)

164 Dan Crenshaw is doing a "Youth Convention" in Houston, starting tomorrow. https://tinyurl.com/aur27334 Think of it as a W.E.F./Young Leaders, writ small.

Speakers are (of course) Dan Crenshaw, Seth Dillon, Jordan Peterson, Jordan Belfort, Dennis Prager, JP Sears, Rob Smith, Yeonmi Park, Steve Wynn, Tori Hope Peterson, Gov. Greg Abbott, Bjorn Lomborg & Rich Lowry, wtih C&W music by Randy Houser. (whothehellarehalfoftheselosers?)

The radio ads say previous years' attendance was about 2,000 "youth".

I hereby rename "Eyepatch McCain" to be henceforth known as "Eyepatch McGroomer". Grooming for the Davos, WEF and the Chamber of Commerce, that is.

Bass. Turd.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 07, 2022 11:43 AM (e6UQI)

165 This is a fantastic point and one that is often missed. We've pretty much perfected the internal combustion engine. So lets get rid of it.

Y'all are fighting the wrong war. The actual goal is to eliminate private cars entirely for the middle class. Everyone in a city in a pod eating bugs, except for the aristocrats.

The government thought they could bring that about purely through CAFE, but engineers gained the ability to have a computer make everything in an engine happen perfectly to the nanosecond and that's greatly increased efficiency (Toyota's post-2018 "Dynamic Force" engines are around 40% efficient, and they achieved 45% in the lab before Trump lost and they switched research to EVs).

Posted by: Ian S. at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (ZGrMX)

166 If Putin takes out NYC, Philly and DC I might send him a Christmas card.

Posted by: Puddinhead Custer at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (xSnmX)

167 >>>So, massive cheating, enough to sway the outcome, in Pima - realistic?

Posted by: rhomboid

Wonder if I can sit on a chair next to a mailbox to deter mass ballot frauds?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (d2bW3)

168 I do know that I live in the deep red part of KS. I didn't seriously look at any areas that went less than 75% for Trump.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (5HBd1)

169 Maricopa has a Republican supervisor of elections now.

...

Cheating in AZ this year will have to come from Pima County.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 07, 2022 11:33 AM (2tOLy)

Wasn't the old one a "Republican"?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (zhLdt)

170 143 Duncan Hines was unavailable for comment
Posted by: SMOD at October 07, 2022 11:36 AM (RHGPo)
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Does he at least have an alibi?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 07, 2022 11:38 AM (YIVH2)

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Apparently, somebody doesn't like Sara Lee.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (uPgE/)

171 Mr Mudpants exceeded my expectations. I figured he'd be dead by now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (3Lw3j)

172 o any of you 29 year-olds remember a book: The Secret Life of Plants?

well now we have the time-lapse photography to document their shenanigans:

https://tinyurl.com/45wapvf9
Posted by: kallisto

Tie Me Rhododendron Down, Sport, Tie Me Rhododendron Down.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (FVME7)

173 >>> If Putin takes out NYC, Philly and DC I might send him a Christmas card.

Posted by: Puddinhead Custer

Same, and I live in Philly. Nothing would make me happier than to se this city crumble.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (d2bW3)

174 @77 That NLurker guy-"Did it really take the election of Donald Trump to unveil the RINO's?"

No. A large portion of the commenters here came to "conservatism" at different times in their lives. Some as recent as the early 2000's. It's not a contest of who came to realize what and when but for people that have been lifelong conservatives Trump didn't unveil anything we didn't already know. A lot of conservatives knew this going back to Goldwater and detested the Nixon/Rockefeller country clubber types. In fact it was these types that helped spawn the conservative movement to begin with. Unfortunately the GOPe co-opted conservative language/talking points and now dumbfuck retards associate GOPe/conservatism as one and the same.

Posted by: JROD at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (0jZnq)

175 151 And trust me I've tried to do detailed analysis on some of these low end races and there is often NO information...

I was trying to look up something on the Nebraska Governor's race yesterday, and apparently nobody has polled anyone in Nebraska about anything since sometime last spring.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (trdmm)

176 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

Your expectations are FAR exceeded whenever you manage to get the tweezers on your microdick in order to be able to pee into the toilet bowl, sitzpinkler.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (pNxlR)

in all fairness, i think biden has exceeded EVERYONES expectations...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (Mkvkw)

177 not only that but the hybrid concept - a combo of combustion engine and electric - worked pretty well? why was that totally discarded?!?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 07, 2022 11:31 AM (w0NJk)

AFAIK, they still make the Toyota Prius, a very successful hybrid.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (KL/sq)

178 Yeah, good point. I mainly like to do it so that other readers and lurkers get actual facts on the topic.

We got confirmation that he owns a real car for when he needs a real car to do real car stuff, though, so that's good.

Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Minimoo is essentially either a liberal Republican or a leftie FUD troll. which are virtually synonymous. If you go back aways, minimoo is always bragging about his std of living, living in a blue area, how other people are stupid, bringing up polls that he knows are crap, and lately his boring e car tales etc. He talks and talks but for the most part he drops a turd in a thread and then goes away. I think he fancies himself as a influencer. Best to ignore it.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (CXr4y)

179 84 Even Trump never got anywhere near this milestone.
Next, they will tell us that Biden can't be impeached and removed over starting a nuclear conflict.

a presidential transition now would make us vulnerable to a first strike! we must let things cool off a bit before we change horses.

Posted by: biden/harris 2024 campaign slogans at October 07, 2022 11:46 AM (oY6Yp)

180 Y'all are fighting the wrong war. The actual goal is to eliminate private cars entirely for the middle class. Everyone in a city in a pod eating bugs, except for the aristocrats.

Except shit doesn't get built, fixed, grown or sold that way. Even the aristocrat's food. Don't know where they think that's coming from.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 07, 2022 11:46 AM (NlFlr)

181 This is a fantastic point and one that is often missed. We've pretty much perfected the internal combustion engine. So lets get rid of it.

Y'all are fighting the wrong war. The actual goal is to eliminate private cars entirely for the middle class. Everyone in a city in a pod eating bugs, except for the aristocrats.
*

The problem being we aren't fighting at all. We are trying, but we don't have any representation. We tried in 2016 and the (R)s rebelled against us and investigated Trump for two years before outright quitting their posts so he couldn't help the country, and then we - the entire country - tried again with a resounding landslide victory for Trump in 2020, and the Republicans said "No, we're not going to do anything to help you, sorry."

it's not a fight. It's a ride. Nothing more.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:46 AM (KETMo)

182 Wasn't the old one a "Republican"?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (zhLdt)

Adrian Fontez was a corrupt lib who is now running for Sec of State against Mark Finchem.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 07, 2022 11:46 AM (OgrpQ)

183 This is a fantastic point and one that is often missed. We've pretty much perfected the internal combustion engine. So lets get rid of it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:34 AM (KETMo)

Apparently the CEO of Toyota is not all-in on EVs.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:46 AM (zhLdt)

184 >>Same, and I live in Philly. Nothing would make me happier than to se this city crumble.

Appears it is. Slowly but surely.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2022 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)

185
in all fairness, i think biden has exceeded EVERYONES expectations...
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (Mkvkw)

Oh no. I knew he would fuck things up, bigly. Maybe I didn't think he'd take us to the brink of nuclear war in less than 2 years, but I knew it would be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

186 Unfortunately the GOPe co-opted conservative language/talking points and now dumbfuck retards associate GOPe/conservatism as one and the same.

Posted by: JROD
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True that. I am not a conservative for that reason. There is almost nothing in today's politics and society that I would wish to conserve.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:47 AM (CXr4y)

187 When you have David Hogg testifying to how manly and dangerously assertive you are, well...
-Richard Simmons

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 07, 2022 11:47 AM (CwQXo)

188 She was crazy stupid gorgeous.

Eh, while her body is non pareil, her face is less impressive. She has really prominently colored lips that don't match the rest of her face. See Scarlett Johansson for another example.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:47 AM (ayzS/)

189 not only that but the hybrid concept - a combo of combustion engine and electric - worked pretty well? why was that totally discarded?!?
Posted by: BlackOrchid

It still uses oil.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 07, 2022 11:47 AM (NlFlr)

190 I like to "Buck" with Woody every morning.

Posted by: Ray Mota at October 07, 2022 11:48 AM (sw3xv)

191 He talks and talks but for the most part he drops a turd in a thread and then goes away. I think he fancies himself as a influencer. Best to ignore it.
Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (CXr4y)

*

I do my best but he insulted my kids once and I took it personally.

It's a character flaw.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:48 AM (KETMo)

192 I have heard that Russian Generals are standing firm on the 2020 nuclear doctrine, despite the authority of Putin to give the command to launch.

You heard that from the neo-cons, who argue that we can crush Russia, and break Russia up into several new countries, without triggering off nuclear war.

The Reuters articles is incorrect in any case, Putin, Shoigu (defense minister), and Gerasimov (chief of general staff), all have Chegets (nuclear footballs) - not just Putin.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2022 11:48 AM (I2/tG)

193 EV's are good for maybe 10% of Americans and more in smaller European countries.

As a full replacement? It's shit. It can't and won't suffice in any way, shape or form. Ever.

They're cutting the proven forms of energy generation all while increasing the demand with battery charging. It's buttfuck ignorant.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

194 After all that time and effort, we are told it's just not enough, throw it all out for a type of vehicle that is not ready for prime time, without the infrastructure to support it.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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^^^ Excellent comment.
The oil/gas/coal industry has been demonized every step of the way even when they have spent time and money to achieve the fluctuating goals set arbitrarily by small groups of people that ultimately want the industry to fail, regardless of meeting or surpassing regulations.
Never once have I heard/read positive reinforcement of those industries' stellar advancements in clean available energy.
It will never be enough and that is a suitable reason to reject oil/gas/coal entirely.

Posted by: old chick at October 07, 2022 11:49 AM (sOete)

195 "Ms. Smedley appealed to the State Executive Committee"
"The Executive Committee rejected her appeal, and certified"

What is this onerous committee, who controls this committee? It begins at the Party meeting after the primary. That's where the gears begin to turn.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 07, 2022 11:49 AM (iam1O)

196 Except shit doesn't get built, fixed, grown or sold that way. Even the aristocrat's food. Don't know where they think that's coming from.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 07, 2022 11:46 AM (NlFlr)

I think they believe that they will be able to get all food and goods from small, artisanal concerns (run by the state of course) where they will get their Ferraris, gas, plastic, iphones, steaks, etc etc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 07, 2022 11:49 AM (CwQXo)

197 61 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.

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just wait until Joe Biden gets Hogg a permanent orange Afro

Posted by: SMOD at October 07, 2022 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

198 167
'Wonder if I can sit on a chair next to a mailbox to deter mass ballot frauds?'

Mount something that looks like a camera next to several.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 07, 2022 11:50 AM (q3iUt)

199 @davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.

*

This is the man whose big accomplishment was not being somewhere, so yeah, I can see his point.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:50 AM (KETMo)

200 The Reuters articles is incorrect in any case, Putin, Shoigu (defense minister), and Gerasimov (chief of general staff), all have Chegets (nuclear footballs) - not just Putin.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2022 11:48 AM (I2/tG)

It's rather amusing to watch Shoigu being set up as the sacrificial lamb. One of Putin's allies openly suggested that Shoigu should commit suicide a couple days ago. Shoigu himself certainly knows what that means, but he's in far too deep to get out now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:51 AM (trdmm)

201 it's not a fight. It's a ride. Nothing more.

Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Not true. Go around them by creating your own institutions or stand and fight in the organizations that you are a member of. Local Boy Scout troop infiltrated, create a religious based youth organization of service and education (Heritage clubs). Local party machinery corrupted, create your own political club with your neighbors. Ditto on churches, etc.

Corruption, like rust, never sleeps so the only way to fight it is get involved by creating your own institutions. BTW, keep them poor and social via donations in kind on purpose to avoid the smooth talking doppelganger types from raiding the treasury and usurping the club.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:51 AM (CXr4y)

202 Most elder Southern GOPe used to be Democrats and swapped for career survival. Naturally they groomed and chose the next generation, who were cut from the same cloth.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at October 07, 2022 11:51 AM (OUMaO)

203
For those interested, the Battle of Athens is a fascinating event that took place in post-WWII Tennessee, where war veterans literally took up arms to nullify a wildly corrupt stolen election. It's an amazing story - and one I find a bit depressing in today's America - which seems like a completely different planet, in terms of civic culture.
Posted by: rhomboid

Yes, an interesting event... and ultimately it was totally pointless, because in less than 2 years the same good-ole-boys the GIs fought against had weaseled their way back into power, and things went back to normal.

The lesson isn't to be all Eeyoreish, but that the forces of good actually have to stay engaged, and not get lazy and distracted. Keeping your boot on the neck of corrupt cocksuckers is a full-time job.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 07, 2022 11:52 AM (n+4am)

204
This is the man whose big accomplishment was not being somewhere, so yeah, I can see his point.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:50 AM (KETMo)

Heh.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:52 AM (Zz0t1)

205
Snollygoster (n)
Definition: "A shrewd, unprincipled person, especially a politician."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 07, 2022 11:52 AM (a3Q+t)

206 I think they believe that they will be able to get all food and goods from small, artisanal concerns (run by the state of course) where they will get their Ferraris, gas, plastic, iphones, steaks, etc etc.

Yup. The liberal brain trust now is overwhelmingly wealthy white women, and wealthy white women think that's how stuff happens.

They would lose their shit it they ever heard about how things *actually* happen.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 07, 2022 11:53 AM (ZGrMX)

207 180
'Even the aristocrat's food. Don't know where they think that's coming from.'

Out of our share.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 07, 2022 11:53 AM (q3iUt)

208 I think they believe that they will be able to get all food and goods from small, artisanal concerns"

I think I will register My Ass as a small, artisanal concern.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:53 AM (trdmm)

209 Except shit doesn't get built, fixed, grown or sold that way. Even the aristocrat's food. Don't know where they think that's coming from.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 07, 2022 11:46 AM (NlFlr)

Robots.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:53 AM (zhLdt)

210 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.

Hoggs’ expectations must have been even lower than mine.

Posted by: LASue at October 07, 2022 11:53 AM (xGiJl)

211 There's not a chance nukes are entering the picture, but it seems both sides have easily manipulated targeted audiences to work on - though this little kerfuffle will soon pass.

This episode gives cheap theatrics a bad name. Embarrassing.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:53 AM (OTzUX)

212 Stephen Green at Instapundit links a very good piece by some woman named Heather Heying.

What Do Girls Do

https://tinyurl.com/mvjf4pkz

Posted by: Robert at October 07, 2022 11:54 AM (MK3AB)

213 Snollygoster (n)
Definition: "A shrewd, unprincipled person, especially a politician."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 07, 2022 11:52 AM (a3Q+t)

THE SNOLLYGOSTERS TASTE LIKE SNOLLYGOSTERS!

Posted by: David Hogg at October 07, 2022 11:54 AM (AiZBA)

214 The Pacific Ocean is closing in on itself and will form a new supercontinent called Amasia, according to scientists.
The experts in Australia say the Pacific Ocean is slowly but consistently getting smaller, perhaps by around one inch a year.

https://bit.ly/3eeN9Kx

Damn this global warming! Would it help if we wore masks?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 07, 2022 11:54 AM (FVME7)

215 Arkansas is often overlooked as being a deep, deep red state, which it certainly is. Even saying that, we have Walmart Man, Asa Hutchinson taking up oxygen in the governor's mansion. Maybe Sarah will keep them in line, along with her Lt Gov, Leslie Rutledge, current AG. She ran for AG as a "Christian, conservative, gun totin' momma" and meant it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 07, 2022 11:54 AM (lz5hY)

216 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

Your expectations are FAR exceeded whenever you manage to get the tweezers on your microdick in order to be able to pee into the toilet bowl, sitzpinkler.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2022 11:17 AM (pNxlR)

Thats some funny shit. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 07, 2022 11:54 AM (VwHCD)

217 Corruption, like rust, never sleeps so the only way to fight it is get involved by creating your own institutions. BTW, keep them poor and social via donations in kind on purpose to avoid the smooth talking doppelganger types from raiding the treasury and usurping the club.
Posted by: whig

*

Oh, I'm involved at church and at the local level, and write my state and local (and fed, but it's meaningless for NC) representatives. I think the 10th Amendment will have to be the way forward, and the sanctuary cities / marijuana states showed us the way. My point being that the feds are so disconnected that nothing that benefits the citizens matters. The energy and EV craziness is a great example.

They have a plan and they intend to enact it, and it doesn't matter what you or I want or need. We had world peace and the best economy in decades two years ago, and now that dollar is worth 50c (at best) and we're having serious conversations about nuclear war preparations.

This is a plan. This is intentional.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:55 AM (KETMo)

218 It still uses oil.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 07, 2022 11:47 AM (NlFlr)

We're planning on having children in Africa mine for that by hand. -- Elites

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 07, 2022 11:55 AM (zhLdt)

219 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
_________________

David "Bros" Hogg is correct. Sloppy Joe has far exceeded my expectations too. I expected him to be dead or at least in a coma by now.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 07, 2022 11:55 AM (iFTx/)

220 EV's are good for maybe 10% of Americans and more in smaller European countries.

As a full replacement? It's shit. It can't and won't suffice in any way, shape or form. Ever.

They're cutting the proven forms of energy generation all while increasing the demand with battery charging. It's buttfuck ignorant.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)
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I see students zooming around campus on all sorts of personal electric vehicle devices, on four wheels (skateboards), two wheels (scooters), and even one wheel (don't know what to call those). THAT seems to be a growing and interesting market. Small, portable, and easy to charge for just a few minutes while you scoot to your next class.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 07, 2022 11:55 AM (YIVH2)

221 I do my best but he insulted my kids once and I took it personally.

It's a character flaw.

Posted by: Moron Robbie
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That is what trolls do btw. Make it personal. Most of them are empty inside with psychological issues that cause them to shuck and jive for attention. The paid trolls don't do that as they get paid to dump their load and leave for the most part.

I have been insulted by pros in the past going back to Usenet days but if you ignore the insults, it drives them batty and frustrates them.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:55 AM (CXr4y)

222 and break Russia up into several new countries

Isn't that how we got here??

Posted by: DaveA at October 07, 2022 11:55 AM (FhXTo)

223 Yup. The liberal brain trust now is overwhelmingly wealthy white women, and wealthy white women think that's how stuff happens.

They would lose their shit it they ever heard about how things *actually* happen.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 07, 2022 11:53 AM (ZGrMX)

They have no concept of economy/efficiency of scale. Because they are retards.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 07, 2022 11:56 AM (CwQXo)

224
Good information on TN GOP here, Buck - and it highlights my point about the unreformable nature of the GOP. The entire Party is a filter funnel designed to keep any conservative from rising above the *very* local level.

People think "if only can get McConnel and McCarthy and his weird Bosom Buddy Luntz out of the way, then we can clean up this Party!" No.

The entire DC Party has made it through that filter funnel - 99% of them would be exactly the same in McConnell or McCarthy's chairs. They may appear different given their district or State, but in leadership, any would know their proper role, and expectations.

Sordid little affairs like the ones Buck's laid out here illustrate how that filter funnel works at the State GOP level to thwart the base at every turn, even in their own backyards, and even when they are in strong-conservative, blood red areas like the one where I grew up in Colorado.

To ever make a meaningful reform in that joke Party, you'd have to gut it completely, strip it back to the timbers, and then burn those. People who say "the Party is changing" or "it's Trump's Party now" are completely ignoring the mechanics of this Party.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2022 11:56 AM (oINRc)

225 @186 whig-Conservatism was never about conserving the status quo. This is a new bullshit talking point by people that have a hard on for conservatism(old Birchers and the like) and lump the conservative philosophy in with GOPe politicians and pundits.

Posted by: JROD at October 07, 2022 11:56 AM (0jZnq)

226 ITC, correct. So the Battle of Athens is more like Trump's presidency. A flicker of what is desperately needed, but just a flicker, with return to the (toxic) mean pretty quickly.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2022 11:56 AM (OTzUX)

227 For those interested, the Battle of Athens is a fascinating event that took place in post-WWII Tennessee, where war veterans literally took up arms to nullify a wildly corrupt stolen election. It's an amazing story - and one I find a bit depressing in today's America - which seems like a completely different planet, in terms of civic culture.
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Like the Battle of Athens, another one I have to look up is the Sagebrush Rebellion from the 1980s. Of all things, it was a Jeopardy answer this week.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 07, 2022 11:56 AM (MIKMs)

228 The good ole boys in the GOP in SC are a running joke among residents. Part of the reason they succeed in being such useless puds for conservatism is that most people have no idea what goes on in Columbia.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 07, 2022 11:56 AM (sVtYq)

229 I see students zooming around campus on all sorts of personal electric vehicle devices, on four wheels (skateboards), two wheels (scooters), and even one wheel (don't know what to call those). THAT seems to be a growing and interesting market. Small, portable, and easy to charge for just a few minutes while you scoot to your next class.

I also had devices for getting to my classes. We called them "feet".

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (ayzS/)

230 I have been insulted by pros in the past going back to Usenet days but if you ignore the insults, it drives them batty and frustrates them.
Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:55 AM (CXr4y)

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(lifts cup of coffee in recognition)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (KETMo)

231 EV's are good for maybe 10% of Americans and more in smaller European countries.

As a full replacement? It's shit. It can't and won't suffice in any way, shape or form. Ever.

They're cutting the proven forms of energy generation all while increasing the demand with battery charging. It's buttfuck ignorant.
Posted by: Sponge

Another ugly truth? Solar/wind migh, MIGHT, work for an individual home, but it doesn't scale up for commercial use. Most metropolitan downtown areas are already built up. Where's the solar farm go and what's the line loss getting the juice to them? How big a battery bank does a modern high rise need for 24/7/365 operation?

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (NlFlr)

232 220 EV's are good for maybe 10% of Americans and more in smaller European countries.

As a full replacement? It's shit. It can't and won't suffice in any way, shape or form. Ever.

They're cutting the proven forms of energy generation all while increasing the demand with battery charging. It's buttfuck ignorant.
Posted by: Sponge
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Euro land has less ability to change their grid than we do. It is the grid and recharging that is the problem. Hybrids are the way to go.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (CXr4y)

233 Wonder if I can sit on a chair next to a mailbox to deter mass ballot frauds?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (d2bW3)

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In our Northern AZ county, one of our local patriot groups (and in coordination with others) has organized an "Operation: Drop Box" asking volunteers to participate in shifts -- and film or photograph evidence via camera or phone -- of anybody depositing what looks like multiple ballots not their own.

Fortunately, we have a constitutional conservative sheriff who's aware of and on board with project.

https://tinyurl.com/289en5n9

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (fppa6)

234 One of Putin's allies openly suggested that Shoigu should commit suicide a couple days ago. Shoigu himself certainly knows what that means, but he's in far too deep to get out now.

Better than that - another person suggested that Shoigu should share the fate of General Pavlov, who was executed by firing squad in 1941 for failing to adequately defend the USSR against the Germans.

There's a lot of resentment of Shoigu, who isn't a military guy - his background was construction, running the Russian equivalent of FEMA (which is a much bigger organization in Russia), and complete subservience to Putin.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (I2/tG)

235 https://bit.ly/3eeN9Kx

Damn this global warming! Would it help if we wore masks?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 07, 2022 11:54 AM (FVME7)

By the time that happens, squids will have left the sea and taken over the land, and large packs of carnivorous squidlings will be swinging through the trees by their tentacles.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (trdmm)

236 The Pacific Ocean is closing in on itself and will form a new supercontinent called Amasia, according to scientists.
The experts in Australia say the Pacific Ocean is slowly but consistently getting smaller, perhaps by around one inch a year.
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Which is it, "scientists?" Are the oceans getting BIGGER (rising) or are they getting SMALLER (falling) due to climate change? Or is there any change at all?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (YIVH2)

237 Oh, for the movie dorks among us but Criterion sent out $10 dollar discounts to Criterion Channel subscribers last week. So looks like the next Criterion Flash Sale will likely be this week. Maybe tomorrow.

Posted by: Robert at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (EZB3K)

238 ---
I see students zooming around campus on all sorts of personal electric vehicle devices, on four wheels (skateboards), two wheels (scooters), and even one wheel (don't know what to call those). THAT seems to be a growing and interesting market. Small, portable, and easy to charge for just a few minutes while you scoot to your next class.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 07, 2022 11:55 AM (YIVH2)

And that's fine, till it burns your apartment building down.

https://youtu.be/HBUGEFErXxA

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)

239 I think I will register My Ass as a small, artisanal concern.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:53 AM (trdmm)

You and Kim Kardashian. Well, except for the 'small' part.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (CwQXo)

240 Speakers are (of course) Dan Crenshaw, Seth Dillon, Jordan Peterson, Jordan Belfort, Dennis Prager, JP Sears, Rob Smith, Yeonmi Park, Steve Wynn, Tori Hope Peterson, Gov. Greg Abbott, Bjorn Lomborg & Rich Lowry, wtih C&W music by Randy Houser. (whothehellarehalfoftheselosers?)

The radio ads say previous years' attendance was about 2,000 "youth".

I hereby rename "Eyepatch McCain" to be henceforth known as "Eyepatch McGroomer". Grooming for the Davos, WEF and the Chamber of Commerce, that is.

Posted by: Jim at October 07, 2022 11:43 AM (e6UQI)

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Jordan Belfort? Rich Lowry? Good grief.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (qH6FZ)

241 228 The good ole boys in the GOP in SC are a running joke among residents. Part of the reason they succeed in being such useless puds for conservatism is that most people have no idea what goes on in Columbia.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 07, 2022 11:56 AM (sVtYq)

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You'd think we'd have constitutional carry at this point, but the Old Boy's Club is still pretty racist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

242 I see students zooming around campus on all sorts of personal electric vehicle devices, on four wheels (skateboards), two wheels (scooters), and even one wheel (don't know what to call those). THAT seems to be a growing and interesting market. Small, portable, and easy to charge for just a few minutes while you scoot to your next class.
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We went to NC State recently and saw that. What else I noticed? They're fat. 50%+ are fat. College kids shouldn't be fat.

It's almost like walking is important.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 11:58 AM (KETMo)

243
By the time that happens, squids will have left the sea and taken over the land, and large packs of carnivorous squidlings will be swinging through the trees by their tentacles.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (trdmm)

I'm listening.....

Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at October 07, 2022 11:58 AM (Zz0t1)

244 I'm also in East Tennessee. I tried to look into being a Precinct Committeeman (as we all should). I was told they had trouble filling the seats for the rural districts, so they eliminated them.

That's some bullshit right there.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 07, 2022 11:59 AM (xKaoR)

245 The experts in Australia say the Pacific Ocean is slowly but consistently getting smaller, perhaps by around one inch a year.

Venice Italy was supposed to have sunk by now. This was predicted all through the last half of the 20c.

Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2022 11:59 AM (dCxaZ)

246 Another ugly truth? Solar/wind migh, MIGHT, work for an individual home, but it doesn't scale up for commercial use. Most metropolitan downtown areas are already built up. Where's the solar farm go and what's the line loss getting the juice to them? How big a battery bank does a modern high rise need for 24/7/365 operation?

Posted by: rickb223
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If there is a big enough battery bank, then the more dense in power you make it, the greater risk that something bad happens when the battery goes bad. Ironically, hydro installs are about as good as batteries for massive power storage at the utility level. You pump water during the day up a slope, then let it out at night driving turbines to generate hydro electricity. Carter Lake in GA for Georgia Power and Light is one such install and there are a few others around left.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:59 AM (CXr4y)

247 For TJM, Alexandra Daddario and her Golden Sweater Puppies have a new series called "Mayfair Witches" coming up in January:

https://youtu.be/zLHoP6ZHl-A

Don't like witches and all that spooky shit but might be worth a watch just for her.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 07, 2022 11:59 AM (Gda1b)

248 220 The Fort Smith cops use Segways for downtown beat patrol and parking meter enforcement. Whatever happened to Clancy, happily twirling his nightstick, walking his beat looking for a free lunch?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 07, 2022 12:00 PM (lz5hY)

249 By the time that happens, squids will have left the sea and taken over the land, and large packs of carnivorous squidlings will be swinging through the trees by their tentacles.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (trdmm)
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Maybe the endangered Northwest Pacific Tree Octopus will make a comeback!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 07, 2022 12:00 PM (YIVH2)

250 How do you square "oceans are rising" with the Pacific getting smaller?

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 07, 2022 12:00 PM (sVtYq)

251 UN Human Rights Council Votes Against Debating China’s Uighur Genocide…

I thought biden brought America BACK and everyone loved us now? I guess it's better to be feared than loved ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2022 12:00 PM (dO/0d)

252 We went to NC State recently and saw that. What else I noticed? They're fat. 50%+ are fat. College kids shouldn't be fat.

I went to a friend's daughter's wedding last week. She's about 24. I'd guess that half of the bride's friends were obese. That is just sad.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 12:00 PM (ayzS/)

253 229 I see students zooming around campus on all sorts of personal electric vehicle devices, on four wheels (skateboards), two wheels (scooters), and even one wheel (don't know what to call those). THAT seems to be a growing and interesting market. Small, portable, and easy to charge for just a few minutes while you scoot to your next class.

I also had devices for getting to my classes. We called them "feet".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (ayzS/)

I have no problem with electric vehicles up to the level of Golf Cart use. It's anything past that level that just doesn't work as advertised.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 12:00 PM (trdmm)

254 Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at October 07, 2022 11:58 AM (Zz0t1)

I'm getting to the point where I'm thinking eichenwald is German for tentacles.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 07, 2022 12:00 PM (AiZBA)

255 I see students zooming around campus on all sorts of personal electric vehicle devices, on four wheels (skateboards), two wheels (scooters), and even one wheel (don't know what to call those). THAT seems to be a growing and interesting market. Small, portable, and easy to charge for just a few minutes while you scoot to your next class.

I also had devices for getting to my classes. We called them "feet".
Posted by: Archimedes

I'm easily 35 miles from the nearest campus. And it's only a community college.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 07, 2022 12:01 PM (NlFlr)

256 247 For TJM, Alexandra Daddario and her Golden Sweater Puppies have a new series called "Mayfair Witches" coming up in January:

https://youtu.be/zLHoP6ZHl-A

Don't like witches and all that spooky shit but might be worth a watch just for her.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 07, 2022 11:59 AM (Gda1b)

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I think I've only ever seen two things with the Daddario in it: True Detective and San Andreas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 07, 2022 12:01 PM (LvTSG)

257 Carjackings In Dem-Run Philadelphia Up Over 100%, 1,044 So Far This Year…
Philly has a brand.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2022 12:01 PM (dO/0d)

258 96 A brilliant ad of three white women chatting around a table
Posted by: LizLem at October 07, 2022 11:30 AM (+mkOR)

These types of ads are very effective when done right - the Harry and Louise ads during the HillaryCare debate in the early 90s come to mind. But they're very risky if they're not done right. Then it's Meme City.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 07, 2022 12:01 PM (t4BDZ)

259 The experts in Australia say the Pacific Ocean is slowly but consistently getting smaller, perhaps by around one inch a year.

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These same Smart People are going to shoot reflective particles into the atmosphere to stop global warming.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 12:01 PM (KETMo)

260 The establishment would not stand for it, so even though the Tennessee Secretary of State had certified Pulliam as the winner, the state GOP retroactively nullified his eligibility and stripped his victory from him.

BS like this is common. I'm helping in a fight at the Republican State Committee (Ohio) level which had the same effect for a candidate as Pulliam faces.

They're bastids and only serve themselves.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2022 12:01 PM (LsEU/)

261 in all fairness, i think biden has exceeded EVERYONES expectations...
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 07, 2022 11:45 AM (Mkvkw)

Heh.

My husband and I sometimes croon to each other: I don't deserve you!

Then we laugh our asses off because we probably do deserve each other.

Posted by: Synova at October 07, 2022 12:02 PM (BD/yx)

262 >>> Don't know why he thought the quixotic AG race could work, but I think that was his off ramp.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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It was a Bush golden parachute that caused it.
He could have won congress again without breaking sweat. Bush's paid him to pull votes so baby Bush would make it to the primary while their Machine smeared Paxton.

Luckily TX had had enough of the Bush's up to the gills.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 07, 2022 12:02 PM (iam1O)

263 244 I'm also in East Tennessee. I tried to look into being a Precinct Committeeman (as we all should). I was told they had trouble filling the seats for the rural districts, so they eliminated them.

That's some bullshit right there.

Posted by: Hawkpilot
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East Tennessee has the dubious distinction of being Republican since the Civil War. They built in corruption via dividing the state with a series of Democrat machines that ran the middle and western TN areas. Look up Boss Crump sometime. I would found your own club starting with neighbors and avoiding use of Republican identifiers that can are trademarked. Something like the Reform Club of XXY County or some such. Take Back your Government by R. Heinlein tells you how to do it on a shoestring budget.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 12:02 PM (CXr4y)

264 I'm easily 35 miles from the nearest campus. And it's only a community college.

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If you buy two used 30 mile Nissan Leafs and the property to store one at the halfway point where you also install a $20,000 garage and $5000 fast charger, you could make that trip with EVs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 12:03 PM (KETMo)

265 248 220 The Fort Smith cops use Segways for downtown beat patrol and parking meter enforcement. Whatever happened to Clancy, happily twirling his nightstick, walking his beat looking for a free lunch?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 07, 2022 12:00 PM (lz5hY)

It's all Paul Blart's now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 12:03 PM (trdmm)

266
I also had devices for getting to my classes. We called them "feet".
Posted by: Archimedes

LPCs = Leather Personnel Carriers

Oh my God, you wear LEATHER???? Think of the cute cows!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 07, 2022 12:03 PM (n+4am)

267 Euro land has less ability to change their grid than we do. It is the grid and recharging that is the problem. Hybrids are the way to go.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:57 AM (CXr4y)

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I drive 85,000+ miles/year for work, and currently using a 2005 Prius that gets nearly 50 miles/gallon on the highway. Thus far, it has 175,000 miles on it (and I'm hoping to get 500,000 eventually).

[Had a 2006 Prius that got 465,000 miles before a monthly Walmart oil change (where I stupidly let them put in some additive and I'm convinced they didn't put in any oil as the engine quickly seized the next day). Moral of the story: I always check my oil now immediately after an "oil change" -- especially from Walmart.]

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 07, 2022 12:03 PM (fppa6)

268 166 If Putin takes out NYC, Philly and DC I might send him a Christmas card.
Posted by: Puddinhead Custer at October 07, 2022 11:44 AM (xSnmX)

We understand.

Posted by: The Dallas Cowboys at October 07, 2022 12:03 PM (cupoy)

269 NEW thread up, crackhead son of POTATUS

Posted by: kallisto at October 07, 2022 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)

270 I used to link to this great article about a guy that set up his bedroom to run completely off solar. Just that one room. And I would challenge the Greenies to do just that. I don't think anyone ever took me up on it. I know that a lot of RV folks are set up to run solar.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 07, 2022 12:04 PM (5HBd1)

271 Ironically, hydro installs are about as good as batteries for massive power storage at the utility level. You pump water during the day up a slope, then let it out at night driving turbines to generate hydro electricity. Carter Lake in GA for Georgia Power and Light is one such install and there are a few others around left.
Posted by: whig

Where does the power come from to pump the water up the slope?

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 07, 2022 12:04 PM (NlFlr)

272 You pump water during the day up a slope, then let it out at night driving turbines to generate hydro electricity. Carter Lake in GA for Georgia Power and Light is one such install and there are a few others around left.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 11:59 AM (CXr4y)

IINM you pump water at night when the grid load is lower, then release it during peak load hours..."pumped storage".

Posted by: BignJames at October 07, 2022 12:05 PM (AwYPR)

273 How do you square "oceans are rising" with the Pacific getting smaller?
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 07, 2022 12:00 PM (sVtYq)

The Atlantic is getting bigger. It's all plate tectonics, and has nothing to do with climate change, other than plate tectonics can cause real climate change, when it moves a hunk of land or diverts ocean currents.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2022 12:05 PM (1paLu)

274 126 Yeah, it's the usual EV nonsense on the last thread. Here's what I would like to see discussed: all these years, there has been a push for higher fuel efficiency cars. They last longer, run cleaner and are safer. After all that time and effort, we are told it's just not enough, throw it all out for a type of vehicle that is not ready for prime time, without the infrastructure to support it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward
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Perfect discription of how the left always operates.

'1990 the only thing we want is to let us marry then we will all live in peace'

Now we are mutilating children.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 07, 2022 12:06 PM (iam1O)

275 I used to link to this great article about a guy that set up his bedroom to run completely off solar. Just that one room. And I would challenge the Greenies to do just that. I don't think anyone ever took me up on it. I know that a lot of RV folks are set up to run solar.
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I looked into it with a camper and I think it's doable so long as you don't need stuff like heating and AC. Or lots of light. Or cooking. Or a gaming PC. Or...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 07, 2022 12:06 PM (KETMo)

276 It was a Bush golden parachute that caused it.
He could have won congress again without breaking sweat. Bush's paid him to pull votes so baby Bush would make it to the primary while their Machine smeared Paxton."

I'm in Gohmert's district. It was a shock when he said he wasn't running, he had this seat locked down for as long as he wanted it. The man who's replacing him says conservative things, but he's always seemed to be extremely Chamber of Commerce to me.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 12:06 PM (trdmm)

277 The Atlantic is getting bigger. It's all plate tectonics, and has nothing to do with climate change, other than plate tectonics can cause real climate change, when it moves a hunk of land or diverts ocean currents.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2022 12:05 PM (1paLu)

Bring back the Tethys Sea!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2022 12:07 PM (trdmm)

278 246
'If there is a big enough battery bank...'
Again this fails at the most basic step. How big would such a battery have to be to have as much potential energy as a full tank of gas?
The battery would quickly weigh so much that it starts to be a millstone that you would need more battery just to overcome.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 07, 2022 12:08 PM (q3iUt)

279 >>> Speakers are (of course) Dan Crenshaw, Seth Dillon, Jordan Peterson, Jordan Belfort, Dennis Prager, JP Sears, Rob Smith, Yeonmi Park, Steve Wynn, Tori Hope Peterson, Gov. Greg Abbott, Bjorn Lomborg & Rich Lowry, wtih C&W music by Randy Houser. (whothehellarehalfoftheselosers?)

I like Jordan Peterson, JP Sears, and Dennis Prager. I'm torn that they are associating with eyepatch McCain, and giving him any credibility.

JP Sears has been an amazing comedic surprise. Super funny dry humor YouTuber, and then he turned out to be conservative! and not a brain dead lib! Love him.

Posted by: LizLem at October 07, 2022 12:08 PM (+mkOR)

280 TJM and Lady in Black,

SC has a history of excluding outsiders and supporting thoroughly corrupt politicians throughout its history. The state did not even have a state Bill of Rights until after the Civil War. Through a lot of its history, the competition was between the relatively poor uplands and the planter class along the coasts. The Repubs used the upland resentments to eventually beat the Dem planter class in statewide races and then promptly created its own ruling class impervious to reform. Carroll Campbell was instrumental in doing that and by moving the SC primary up, SC became very important to national Republican aspirations. As such, the state GOP is doubly reinforced by the GOP national orgs to prevent any populism from rising up.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 12:09 PM (CXr4y)

281
Notice how all these people in red states/areas are saying 'oh my local GOP is useless, and we just can't seem to change it?'

It's not useless. It's extraordinarily useful - it's purpose is to make it so you can't change it, but keep voting for it anyway.

Anytime you're tempted to point at a Dem rotten borough and say things like "plantation voters," remember the three fingers pointing back at you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2022 12:11 PM (oINRc)

282 Again this fails at the most basic step. How big would such a battery have to be to have as much potential energy as a full tank of gas?
The battery would quickly weigh so much that it starts to be a millstone that you would need more battery just to overcome.

Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Don't think you could manage that because gas, etc. are so dense in energy that batteries may never be able to match up. You would have to go nuclear electric for that like on space probes. There is a reason NASA went to fuel cells instead of batteries in spacecraft.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 12:12 PM (CXr4y)

283 It's not useless. It's extraordinarily useful - it's purpose is to make it so you can't change it, but keep voting for it anyway.

Anytime you're tempted to point at a Dem rotten borough and say things like "plantation voters," remember the three fingers pointing back at you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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It is difficult but can be done. I've played my part in that--the trick is to mobilize your neighbors and numbers can beat money/insiders but it is always easier to do it outside of the party machinery whether Dem or Rep.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 12:14 PM (CXr4y)

284 282
I meant to be anti-battery here. So I agree with you. You only use batteries where you have to.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 07, 2022 12:15 PM (q3iUt)

285 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
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He's far exceeded my expectations too. I thought he was going to be bad, but not THIS bad.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 07, 2022 12:17 PM (YqDXo)

286 I think I've only ever seen two things with the Daddario in it: True Detective and San Andreas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster

And "The Daily Daddario" of blessed memory! Don't forget that.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 07, 2022 12:18 PM (Gda1b)

287 I'm in Gohmert's district. It was a shock when he said he wasn't running, he had this seat locked down for as long as he wanted it. The man who's replacing him says conservative things, but he's always seemed to be extremely Chamber of Commerce to me.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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Of course the nominee is. The party machinery always has a handle on 'reliable' candidates to shower money on from special interests. For the most part, you want a different candidate, then you have to do insurgent style politics to get them in office. The rare reformer types can often hold office as long as they like providing that they build a personal rather than party constituency.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 12:18 PM (CXr4y)

288 David Hogg
@davidhogg111
President Biden has FAR exceeded my expectations.

Will we ever be rid of this purulent anal fissure?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 07, 2022 12:19 PM (sI15f)

289 Tump ran on repealing Obamacare. RINOS convinced him to repeal then replace with something better. Then they convinced him to have a replacement ready to vote on first then repeal it so there's no gaps in coverage. The RINOS could never agree on a replacement, though, which was part of their plan all along. No replacement, O-care stays! Yay! Leading the charge for a non-replacement was the well known RINO , The Maine Paine, Sen. Susan Collins. I didn't think he was a RINO then, but i was quite surprised to see my own Sen. Bill Cassidy handcuffed to that woman for the whole ordeal. Boo!

Posted by: hurricane567@gmail.com at October 07, 2022 12:20 PM (CcWcJ)

290 IINM you pump water at night when the grid load is lower, then release it during peak load hours..."pumped storage".

Posted by: BignJames
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Depends, if you are using solar energy, you do the reverse which was the partial answer to the above question on batteries. Carter Lake is used for ordinary grid operations and so it varies by season--pumping daytime during the winter and night time during the summer.

On wind, it is often the greatest at the shift to day to night or night to day so your pumped storage would vary also depending on seasons.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 12:21 PM (CXr4y)

291 Moral of the story: I always check my oil now immediately after an "oil change" -- especially from Walmart.]

Posted by: ShainS
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Had a similar experience. Don't go to Walmart for automotives anymore.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 12:23 PM (CXr4y)

292 51. In PA the state GOP is just ridiculous.

Yeah, and WE LET THEM BE. Case in point: Kathy Barrette. "Oh, she didn't do well against Madeleine Dean so lets not waste our time!" was the cry. So who is MD, or better yet, what's her background? Husband an active businessman who was formerly president and CEO of Advanced Sports, Inc. (Related articles ran in The Inquirer. "Update: Taiwan investigates $20M transfer to Philly firm run by Congresswoman-elect's husband.") A son worked directly for 6 years for President O as Senior Writer & Deputy Director of Messaging. Does that make Dean a terrible person? No, but she's about as well connected to that party as you can be in PA, and our pols aren't about to spend the $ to counter anyone with that oomph. Another example, until VERY recently I had no idea there's a republican running against Congresswoman Mary Gay Scalon, PA 5th District (yes, mine & I will vote for a rock rather than her because what she did with BLM in this district & her misdirection of issues that do need to be honestly addressed.) She was with a large law firm known for excellence; hubby is the managing partner. Lada!

Posted by: Lola at October 07, 2022 12:25 PM (NIYa7)

293 The Maine Paine, Sen. Susan Collins. I didn't think he was a RINO then, but i was quite surprised to see my own Sen. Bill Cassidy handcuffed to that woman for the whole ordeal. Boo!

Posted by: hurricane567@gmail.com
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The medical industry LIKES Obamacare as do big employers as it takes the pressure off of them regarding costs and coverage. IF you note, most physicians are no longer self employed but work for a hospital system because Obamacare reimbursed hospitals at a higher rate than physician owned establishments.

The Brits still hold fast to their thoroughly problematic NHS system because they view it as better than nothing. The well off go to the doctors during their off time in the evenings at private clinics and private hospitals or go abroad. So, there is no pressure on the system to change.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 12:26 PM (CXr4y)

294 In my day, owning a 10-speed bicycle was the thing.

Posted by: Puddinhead Custer at October 07, 2022 12:26 PM (xSnmX)

295 284 282
I meant to be anti-battery here. So I agree with you. You only use batteries where you have to.

Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Did not take it otherwise. For the most part, gullible people that believe themselves to be environmentalists are totally ignorant of physics and chemistry. Combustion of petroleum products is almost an ideal of combining energy density, rapid refueling, and even safety.

Posted by: whig at October 07, 2022 12:32 PM (CXr4y)

296 Corruption in politics has a long storied history. Robert Heinlein wrote a book summarizing his experiences dealing with machine politics (Take Back Your Government) and a helpful primer on doing that

There's also A Room of Her Own{/i], based on his experience running a campaign for ...

Sinclair Lewis.

Which was also the source of the Social Credit economic and political system in For Us, the Living.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 07, 2022 12:41 PM (qyH+l)

297 Test

Posted by: Fox2! at October 07, 2022 12:45 PM (qyH+l)

298 I'm personally working now to wreck the Republican Party on every level - local, state, federal - and watch that party nosedive into the ground. One of the greatest electoral wins for a presidential candidate in history was stolen through every illegal and questionably legal method that could be employed and the ONLY way it could have worked was for Republicans to have
(a) been an active player in the scheme
(b) sat on the sidelines and done nothing to stop it
(c) both of the above
The G.O.P. deserves to die as a political party. At least I can get the pleasure of watching them burn as I mourn the destruction of our nation. FUCK REPUBLICANS AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE!

Posted by: Tracy at October 07, 2022 01:10 PM (ias+u)

299 51. In PA the state GOP is just ridiculous

And another thing, they don't even make a decent stand against some of the most terrible, do nothing State Senators & local reps. Why not run someone decent against them?

How can we do that when she advocates for veterans? What are you talking about, her husband getting disability? That's the only veteran she's ever been near and/or advocated for! (NOTE: And in reality, little is ever done for younger veterans by any party because they can be a threat to most state and federal civil service positions.)

What about running someone decent against that one? But he/she collects food for pantries and distributes it along with union reps. What? Only right before voting will be taking place & each and every food box was packaged and labelled USDA. Who's her uncle?

He/she worked for the feds in the past. Oh, a Program Manager he was? Meaningless. He could have been managing paper clips and the office's copy machine for all you know.

Politically, we've usually gotten what we deserve.

Posted by: Lola at October 07, 2022 01:10 PM (NIYa7)

300 Closed primaries would help, but in strongly one-party areas perhaps their adoption would be of limited effect.

However, one thing prospective "raiders" need to know is that if they vote in the other party's primary to fix the election for a particular office, the have to stay in that primary for all the other offices contested, so they forgo the right to vote in their own party's primary for such contests, some of which may be quite competitive.

Posted by: go get your fuckin shine box at October 07, 2022 02:18 PM (WusEB)

301 Is your point that Republicans should stop mindlessly pulling the lever, or that we should just overturn elections if someone is bad enough?

Are your measures objective? What constitutes "bad-mouthing Republicans"?

I thought you were making my point, that voting in for a Republican in a race without judging them is a problem. The reactionary is going to claim that "you want to vote for a Dem, traitor!"

Leaving the ballot blank if you don't know is the moral action. Voting for someone just based on Party is a lie when you give power over others to someone you don't know and haven't bothered to vet in any way.

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303 My Wife questioned me on why we needed Home Server (synology, Emby or PLEX) with all this Trans crap and now they have Velma of Scooby Doo being gay she apologized to me about spending the money. it's disgusting that they put this crap in Kids programs.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 07, 2022 06:57 PM (YtB/T)

304 Wamp is a pit viper. And he absolutely cheated in that election. Sabrina was so far ahead of him in the polls. Republicans in Tennessee need to take back the parties steering wheel from the corruptocrats who are currently driving that bus. In other words, we need to reclaim our wing of the political system. Pretty much like everybody else from coast to coast.

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