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The Weekend Hobby Thread
Do You Even Need a Hobby?
An essential reading list for breaking down the merits of introducing structured leisure into your life. Plus, how to find a pastime if you’re lacking inspiration.
I'm not trying to step on CBD's toes. He has the best "Food Thread". But, isn't going to fairs and eating Fair food a hobby? What isn't good deep fried?
We've covered fair food in the past here at Boing Boing, and we're back with more culinary delights from State and County fairs. This time we're reporting on some of the delicacies from the Arizona State Fair, which is running now through the end of October. AZ Central reporter Andi Berlin sampled the food and came up with a list of her five favorites. She explains:
Somehow the following slipped between the cracks. But, better late than never, right gang?
Greetings and Salutations! I was flipping through the hobby thread and enjoying the hell out of it when I remembered that I had finally finished my major project this year and I wanted to share it with the horde. My best friend turned 50 this year and I wanted to give him an impressive gift that would let him relive some of his childhood. That and tease him about his age. Taking inspiration from a couple Instructables and some other build logs around teh intarwebs, I built a MAME machine into my dad's old briefcase. The construction took months and I went through a lot of iterations, including two complete redesigns. It's powered by a Raspberry Pi 3A+ and a laptop screen. Power is supplied by said laptop's power brick and a HiFi amplifier hat for the Pi. The wood was project birch that I cut on my laser cutter and there are a dozen or so 3d printed spacers and braces throughout to get everything positioned precisely. It is amazing how much easier it is to print a 7mm spacer rather than trying to precisely cut a piece of scrap wood. Some features of the finished product:
Game surface is flush with the briefcase wall, so no edge to dig into your wrists whilst playing
25W speaker power. Volume is controlled via button & joystick combination
Molly guard on the shutdown button so you don't accidentally turn it off whilst playing
1300 arcade games from the 70s, 80s, 90s and some select Nintendo, SNES, PS1 titles
Removable & swappable joystick handle, so if you prefer a teardrop shape you can switch
So my friend is loving the hell out of this. Partly for nostalgia and partly because he gets to introduce his children to old school gaming. They're young enough that they don't turn up their noses at the dated graphics and simple sound. Plus, he got to play Dig Dug for the first time since junior high school. Overall, it was a success. There's a more detailed build log at the Arcade Controls Forum.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,166327.msg1753524.html#msg1753524 If you wish more details or better resolution photos, just let me know. Regards, Semper Why
I believe purchasing a bottle of Geritol and giving that to your best friend on his 50th birthday might have done the trick as well. All kidding aside, that is one hell of a cool machine. It's really neat that he and his kids are enjoying it. Sorry it took awhile to get into the blog. But, thank you for sharing this great gift with us. What a hobby!
The Lord willing and the creeks don't rise I'll be back in a couple of weeks. If you have something you wish to share on The Hobby Thread you can submit it to me here at petmorons at gmail dot com.
Comments
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Good afternoon Hobbiests
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 05:00 PM (xhxe8)
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What a cool project, could be a Radio Shack 70s
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 05:03 PM (xhxe8)
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Slowly working on traces to my mule team for a 15mm mobile forge for my Prussians 1813. Not much else for hobbies.
I wouldn't be sane without hobbies
I wouldn't be sane without hobbies
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 05:08 PM (xhxe8)
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Guessing you wouldn’t get that past security at the airport.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 01, 2022 05:09 PM (u73oe)
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Excellent MAME machine. But can the url in the text be split or Tinyed? Margins are feelin' it.
Posted by: mikeski at October 01, 2022 05:15 PM (P1f+c)
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At first I thought that briefcase was a mobile polygraph.
Posted by: Eromero at October 01, 2022 05:15 PM (gktX6)
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Its getting time of year I can make more charcoal and do lead casting.
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 05:16 PM (xhxe8)
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I remember a few years back when somebody gave me a CD with a shitload of those old arcade games. I loaded them up and several were completely unplayable. Seems that nobody considered the game speed needed to be throttled back to real time and not based off of the clock speed of the processor.
Those games used to run like a raped ape. Totes unplayable.
Those games used to run like a raped ape. Totes unplayable.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 05:20 PM (z+OQR)
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What a great present! Retro and fun, too.
My main hobby at the moment is mending or reworking what I have because I sure as heck can't buy anything new.
When I finish the bedside table in the guestroom, I'll send you a photo.
My main hobby at the moment is mending or reworking what I have because I sure as heck can't buy anything new.
When I finish the bedside table in the guestroom, I'll send you a photo.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 01, 2022 05:21 PM (/+bwe)
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Very big on retro-gaming, one of the best sites is Arcade Punks.
Some of my Favorite games are of course PacMan, Galaga and Defender as well as slightly modern ones like Dragon's Lair, Space Ace and the Metal Slug series.
Some of my Favorite games are of course PacMan, Galaga and Defender as well as slightly modern ones like Dragon's Lair, Space Ace and the Metal Slug series.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 05:22 PM (up/3i)
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I note the smeared gloves and the rags used in the boat painting above.
Someone famous in the art world during the late 1800's once said something very profound - "its the grey's that make the painting"
Meaning the real world, the world we actually see, is grey with a little colored smeared in - not the garish colored work of the modernist. The artist with the smeared rags and gloves is getting his "grey's" right - his tone. And the painting, for an all-at-once go, is better for it.
Someone famous in the art world during the late 1800's once said something very profound - "its the grey's that make the painting"
Meaning the real world, the world we actually see, is grey with a little colored smeared in - not the garish colored work of the modernist. The artist with the smeared rags and gloves is getting his "grey's" right - his tone. And the painting, for an all-at-once go, is better for it.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 05:22 PM (+Cgut)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 05:25 PM (T4tVD)
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That briefcase project, is it cruel?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2022 05:25 PM (EZebt)
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So I just finished roasting and freezing three gallon ziplocs of green Chile's. Dehydrated a load of tomatoes, and now have a load of Serrano Chiles drying. Also several ziplocks of stewed tomatoes in the freezer. And that is just this week. Is that hobby, or should I have posted this on the gardening thread?
Posted by: Pod Hamp at October 01, 2022 05:26 PM (GjNDo)
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Who needs a hobby? That is covered in the first part of Sir Winston Churchill's "Painting As A Pastime". He recounts how he started painting when in his 40s and why it was so valuable to him.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:28 PM (7EjX1)
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Sounds like a hobby, gardening, and food thread trifecta. Unless you're selling the food, then it's a job and not a hobby.
Posted by: mikeski at October 01, 2022 05:29 PM (P1f+c)
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That MAME box is a pretty amazing project.
Posted by: t-bird at October 01, 2022 05:32 PM (Q14hI)
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Picked a great looking heirloom tomato from the garden and decided to make BLTs tonight. Could’ve sworn I had bacon in the freezer. I have no bacon. Sad!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 01, 2022 05:34 PM (u73oe)
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I wish I could paint as well as in that top photo. Or anywhere near that good. But I'm having a LOT of fun learning to sketch, mostly with pencil and markers so far. I keep a sketchbook handy to my recliner and one in the car. A drawing of a cowboy that looks like one or an acorn that looks like it came from an oak tree constitutes a moral triumph.
My few attempts at color, with colored pencils, is proving more difficult than I anticipated. Combining colors and shading is not intuitive, at least not for me.
My few attempts at color, with colored pencils, is proving more difficult than I anticipated. Combining colors and shading is not intuitive, at least not for me.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:35 PM (7EjX1)
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Picked a great looking heirloom tomato from the garden and decided to make BLTs tonight. Could’ve sworn I had bacon in the freezer. I have no bacon. Sad!
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Watch the Supermarket sales papers, sometimes they have deals !
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Watch the Supermarket sales papers, sometimes they have deals !
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 05:37 PM (T4tVD)
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I keep a sketchbook handy to my recliner and one in the car. A drawing of a cowboy that looks like one or an acorn that looks like it came from an oak tree constitutes a moral triumph.
My few attempts at color, with colored pencils, is proving more difficult than I anticipated. Combining colors and shading is not intuitive, at least not for me.
Posted by: JTB
Nice !
Keep at it ! Remember how to get to Carnegie hall !
My few attempts at color, with colored pencils, is proving more difficult than I anticipated. Combining colors and shading is not intuitive, at least not for me.
Posted by: JTB
Nice !
Keep at it ! Remember how to get to Carnegie hall !
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 05:39 PM (T4tVD)
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>>>Picked a great looking heirloom tomato from the garden and decided to make BLTs tonight. Could’ve sworn I had bacon in the freezer. I have no bacon. Sad!
Posted by: Duke Lowell
>This is a dereliction of you solemn duty. Put your crocs on and shuffle your ass down to the grocer and get yourself at least 3 lbs of bacon.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
>This is a dereliction of you solemn duty. Put your crocs on and shuffle your ass down to the grocer and get yourself at least 3 lbs of bacon.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 05:40 PM (z+OQR)
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I remember high school years doing a few Radio Shack kits, seemed never quite the greatest, but practiced soldering at least.
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 05:41 PM (xhxe8)
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I reached a milestone of a sorts with my drawing hobby. I no longer constantly think "I should have started this 60 years ago". Breakthrough!
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:41 PM (7EjX1)
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The modernist art world from the early 19 century resisted this idea greatly - the idea of the "grisaille painting" first technique, getting the tone right, greying the painting to bring the shadows and lights into their correct relationship - it "hindered their freedom" they cried.
That is because it was hard and required years of study and practice and copying the masters' works - modernists wanted to make money now off of feelz from their art agents who were desperately trying to get new, rich clients from the robber baron's kids, know nothings essentially - so the techniques of old, building a painting up from scratch, using time honored methods, went out the window - and so, the art world got talentless hacks and scamsters like Picasso and Cezanne.
That is because it was hard and required years of study and practice and copying the masters' works - modernists wanted to make money now off of feelz from their art agents who were desperately trying to get new, rich clients from the robber baron's kids, know nothings essentially - so the techniques of old, building a painting up from scratch, using time honored methods, went out the window - and so, the art world got talentless hacks and scamsters like Picasso and Cezanne.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 05:43 PM (+Cgut)
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I wouldn't want to carry that homemade briefcase/computer through a TSA checkpoint. I'd miss my flight as my luggage was pulled from the plane and the security dog jammed his nose in my crotch.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 01, 2022 05:43 PM (guGkK)
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>This is a dereliction of you solemn duty. Put your crocs on and shuffle your ass down to the grocer and get yourself at least 3 lbs of bacon.
Posted by: Dr. Bone
For ONE tomato ?
Posted by: Dr. Bone
For ONE tomato ?
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 05:43 PM (T4tVD)
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>>>For ONE tomato ?
Posted by: JT
>Bacon is a staple food item and should never be treated lightly.
Posted by: JT
>Bacon is a staple food item and should never be treated lightly.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 05:46 PM (z+OQR)
Posted by: probably not T.H. White at October 01, 2022 05:46 PM (P1f+c)
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26 I wouldn't want to carry that homemade briefcase/computer through a TSA checkpoint. I'd miss my flight as my luggage was pulled from the plane and the security dog jammed his nose in my crotch.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 01, 2022 05:43 PM (guGkK)
When I was a 20-something in College, I was driving through the local mountains and got stopped at a "Border Patrol" checkpoint (some miles THIS side of the border...). I was pulled over and they asked to search my car. If I had time, would've told them no and go get an f'n warrant first, but decided to let them while I watched, telling the guy I didn't trust they wouldn't plant something in this half mexican's car. (guy said, "We don't do that", yeah right, buddy). They pounded under the back seats of my 70's Chebbie, bounced the spare, let some of the air out to smell it...very disappointed they found nothing.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 01, 2022 05:43 PM (guGkK)
When I was a 20-something in College, I was driving through the local mountains and got stopped at a "Border Patrol" checkpoint (some miles THIS side of the border...). I was pulled over and they asked to search my car. If I had time, would've told them no and go get an f'n warrant first, but decided to let them while I watched, telling the guy I didn't trust they wouldn't plant something in this half mexican's car. (guy said, "We don't do that", yeah right, buddy). They pounded under the back seats of my 70's Chebbie, bounced the spare, let some of the air out to smell it...very disappointed they found nothing.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 05:48 PM (ynpvh)
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In essence, the modern art world became a con - it was more about who knew who, which agent was connected to the heirs of Rockerfeller or some steel magnate long dead. No one had to put any work into their art other than ginning up a story and working their rolodex - today's multi-millionaire, talentless Banksy is yesterday's street three card Monti con artist who got routinely rousted out by the beat constable and was typically doing small stints in the local lockup.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 05:49 PM (+Cgut)
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28 >>>For ONE tomato ?
Posted by: JT
>Bacon is a staple food item and should never be treated lightly.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 05:46 PM (z+OQR)
Never tried raising bacon. Not enough room in my back yard, and the neighbors would object to the noise and smell of the pre-bacon.
Posted by: JT
>Bacon is a staple food item and should never be treated lightly.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 05:46 PM (z+OQR)
Never tried raising bacon. Not enough room in my back yard, and the neighbors would object to the noise and smell of the pre-bacon.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 05:49 PM (ynpvh)
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31 In essence, the modern art world became a con - it was more about who knew who, which agent was connected to the heirs of Rockerfeller or some steel magnate long dead. No one had to put any work into their art other than ginning up a story and working their rolodex - today's multi-millionaire, talentless Banksy is yesterday's street three card Monti con artist who got routinely rousted out by the beat constable and was typically doing small stints in the local lockup.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 05:49 PM (+Cgut)
When a janitor throws away "art", it was garbage to begin with.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 05:49 PM (+Cgut)
When a janitor throws away "art", it was garbage to begin with.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 05:51 PM (ynpvh)
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A couple of days ago one of the threads had some discussion about fountain and dip pens. I enjoy both of them. A decent (doesn't have to be expensive) fountain pen is a pleasure to use as it glides fluidly across the paper. It's a different feel than using ball point or fiber tip pens. I find I take a bit more time and care with forming the words, which elevates my decent handwriting to something better.
Dip pens are just plain fun if only for the 'fiddle' factors: choosing a nib and ink, taking the time to reload the ink every few words, varying the pressure on the nib to get different textures, etc. And they are inexpensive.
Dip pens are just plain fun if only for the 'fiddle' factors: choosing a nib and ink, taking the time to reload the ink every few words, varying the pressure on the nib to get different textures, etc. And they are inexpensive.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:52 PM (7EjX1)
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My few attempts at color, with colored pencils, is proving more difficult than I anticipated. Combining colors and shading is not intuitive, at least not for me.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:35 PM (7EjX1)
I find skin tones the hardest. One of my practice sketches was of my thumb, which was gripping the drawing pad. I just concentrated on getting the color in my drawing to match my thumb.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:35 PM (7EjX1)
I find skin tones the hardest. One of my practice sketches was of my thumb, which was gripping the drawing pad. I just concentrated on getting the color in my drawing to match my thumb.
Posted by: Emmie at October 01, 2022 05:52 PM (6RgRK)
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Driving home from Upstate NY one night there was a Border Patrol checkpoint before I got on I-81.
A voice came out of the darkness "Joonited States Border Patrol ! Are joo a citizen ?"
I had to bite my tongue to keep from replying "Yeah ! Are joo ?"
A voice came out of the darkness "Joonited States Border Patrol ! Are joo a citizen ?"
I had to bite my tongue to keep from replying "Yeah ! Are joo ?"
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 05:53 PM (T4tVD)
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I bought the Spencerian workbooks as I've always wanted to write like that. Haven't started it yet but should be a nice project for winter.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 01, 2022 05:54 PM (uz3Px)
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I have come to a dead stop on painting my US Marine WWII 28mm Bolt Action miniature Army. I was planning on playing in a tournament on Saturday 12 November but my VFW post moved out veterans Day events from the 11th to the 12th because not enough people could get off work on a Friday to attend.
Still has some stuff to paint, two flamethrowers, a sniper team and a 37mm Anti Tank gun, but everything else is pretty much done. I hope to have it done by the end of the year now.
Still has some stuff to paint, two flamethrowers, a sniper team and a 37mm Anti Tank gun, but everything else is pretty much done. I hope to have it done by the end of the year now.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2022 05:55 PM (bVYXr)
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When a janitor throws away "art", it was garbage to begin with.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 05:51 PM (ynpvh)
I have to give Banksy this - he makes no pretense that he does art - the mocking of the rich as no nothings is part of his schtick - it is his calling card - he victimizes rich Karen's who pay to be called racists to increase their social credit value.
But the rest of us don't have to call it art...it's just mooning rich people performed for his own pleasure.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 05:51 PM (ynpvh)
I have to give Banksy this - he makes no pretense that he does art - the mocking of the rich as no nothings is part of his schtick - it is his calling card - he victimizes rich Karen's who pay to be called racists to increase their social credit value.
But the rest of us don't have to call it art...it's just mooning rich people performed for his own pleasure.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 05:55 PM (+Cgut)
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CPT Charles's hobby is watching other people on YouTube work on their hobbies. My main hobby is teasing Anko-chan the cat. Hey, it's the FJB economy, we had to cut back a bit.
Posted by: exdem13 at October 01, 2022 05:55 PM (W+kMI)
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Now I must go to the box and feel shame.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 01, 2022 05:56 PM (u73oe)
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Didn't Veteran's Day used to be a National Holiday ?
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 05:56 PM (T4tVD)
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>>>My few attempts at color, with colored pencils, is proving more difficult than I anticipated. Combining colors and shading is not intuitive, at least not for me.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:35 PM (7EjX1)
I find skin tones the hardest. One of my practice sketches was of my thumb, which was gripping the drawing pad. I just concentrated on getting the color in my drawing to match my thumb.
>Preserving whites and highlights has forced me to view things differently. White pencils don't work too well on a dark background.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:35 PM (7EjX1)
I find skin tones the hardest. One of my practice sketches was of my thumb, which was gripping the drawing pad. I just concentrated on getting the color in my drawing to match my thumb.
>Preserving whites and highlights has forced me to view things differently. White pencils don't work too well on a dark background.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 05:57 PM (z+OQR)
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Bacon is a staple food item and should never be treated lightly.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 05:46 PM (z+OQR)
__________
Bacon is a human right!
Bacon is a staple food item and should never be treated lightly.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 05:46 PM (z+OQR)
__________
Bacon is a human right!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2022 05:58 PM (1Nxff)
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Actually, I've been getting back into Battletech since Catalyst Games Lab has acquired and aggressively reworked the game. The Unseen mechs are being made again, and the minis are worth having. Rules have been reworked a little so I'm ready to try out the game as soon as my other friends who are fans of giant stompy robots move into their new digs.
Posted by: exdem13 at October 01, 2022 05:58 PM (W+kMI)
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@19
>>But I'm having a LOT of fun learning to sketch, mostly with pencil and markers so far.
I would recommend the George Bridgman and Andrew Loomis series of books, Constructive Anatomy and Fun With A Pencil are perhaps two of the best art instruction books ever.
>>But I'm having a LOT of fun learning to sketch, mostly with pencil and markers so far.
I would recommend the George Bridgman and Andrew Loomis series of books, Constructive Anatomy and Fun With A Pencil are perhaps two of the best art instruction books ever.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 05:59 PM (up/3i)
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I used to draw with pencil. It was an offshoot of my high school days in mechanical drawing and then architectural drawing. I still (sometimes) doodle a bit on paper, but it's been years and years since I really did anything serious.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 01, 2022 05:59 PM (BFigT)
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Miss Ruth arrived safely at her new home this afternoon and is settling in. Even though she's 3 months old today, I bet she's running thr place tomorrow.
Miss Ruth arrived safely at her new home this afternoon and is settling in. Even though she's 3 months old today, I bet she's running thr place tomorrow.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2022 06:01 PM (1Nxff)
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Ugh. One of the valve covers on my wife's Santa Fe was leaking, and after removing half the damn engine just to get the valve cover out, I discovered that three of it's bolt holes are stripped. So I have to pull it back out, drill out the holes on the valve cover, and the bolt holes, and cross my fingers that I can fix them with heli-coils.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 01, 2022 06:01 PM (CCf67)
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Didn't Veteran's Day used to be a National Holiday ?
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 05:56 PM
Technically it still is, but more and more companies and localities no longer celebrate the holiday.
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 05:56 PM
Technically it still is, but more and more companies and localities no longer celebrate the holiday.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2022 06:03 PM (bVYXr)
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My few attempts at color, with colored pencils, is proving more difficult than I anticipated. Combining colors and shading is not intuitive, at least not for me.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:35 PM (7EjX1)
Did one attempt with colored pencils (first drawing):
https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w
Never tried again - too difficult to get right. You can't "play" with colored pencils - you have to lay things down right the first time as erasure and blending is pretty ugly.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 05:35 PM (7EjX1)
Did one attempt with colored pencils (first drawing):
https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w
Never tried again - too difficult to get right. You can't "play" with colored pencils - you have to lay things down right the first time as erasure and blending is pretty ugly.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 06:04 PM (+Cgut)
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You have to be careful when you say "Yes I paint boats." Someone may hand you a scraper.
I was at Thomas Hart Benton's home last week. It was an off day so there were only the two of us for that hour's tour, and I had the undivided attention of a really smart guide with a history degree who actually studied Benton's career. He was in the Navy during WWI, so I asked about military-system art training. He had already been to some pretty fine art schools already, but they put him to work designing (and applying!) dazzle camouflage. Later in the trip I found Grant Wood had done the same thing. Some connection of regionalist painters from landlocked states and maritime dazzle?
Anyway, for some time, West Point was the leading art school in the country -- because prior to photography, sketching was as important as map skills in describing actions and filing reports. Pretty sure Naval Academy followed suit. Design engineers were educated differently in that era, but they all knew how to sketch, too, and if you do any historical research on buildings, you quickly run across the plans and views filed by insurance men.
Not all 'art' but most knew how to do it.
I was at Thomas Hart Benton's home last week. It was an off day so there were only the two of us for that hour's tour, and I had the undivided attention of a really smart guide with a history degree who actually studied Benton's career. He was in the Navy during WWI, so I asked about military-system art training. He had already been to some pretty fine art schools already, but they put him to work designing (and applying!) dazzle camouflage. Later in the trip I found Grant Wood had done the same thing. Some connection of regionalist painters from landlocked states and maritime dazzle?
Anyway, for some time, West Point was the leading art school in the country -- because prior to photography, sketching was as important as map skills in describing actions and filing reports. Pretty sure Naval Academy followed suit. Design engineers were educated differently in that era, but they all knew how to sketch, too, and if you do any historical research on buildings, you quickly run across the plans and views filed by insurance men.
Not all 'art' but most knew how to do it.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 01, 2022 06:06 PM (x61Im)
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My weekend hobby is now working b/c suddenly, after making low 5 figures last year, I'm rather inundated. Going to nap, play a bit more HOI3 (my Germany is poised on the Netherlands side of the border with Belgium), and get some hill work in too.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 01, 2022 06:07 PM (KAi1n)
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I have not played Battletech since the 1990s, but I have periodically eyed the game since then. I always had a great time playing it.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 01, 2022 06:09 PM (KFhLj)
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I just finished my fourth painting since starting again. This one is also from a photo posted on a quick hits or ONT post. It's the photo of two fisherman , one with a fly rod and the other with the net. I also did an abstract , which I really enjoy creating . I call it Teeny Weenie Green Bikini. I'm in process of putting my work on a site so I can start linking.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:11 PM (Te2aa)
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Is working on the house considered a hobby?
I replaced three crank operators for casement windows yesterday. Only cost $75 in parts instead of having a window guy charge me $350 or so.
I enjoy it so there's that.
I replaced three crank operators for casement windows yesterday. Only cost $75 in parts instead of having a window guy charge me $350 or so.
I enjoy it so there's that.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 06:11 PM (LsEU/)
57
My cat just bitch-slapped me. Bloody hell!
Posted by: SFGoth at October 01, 2022 06:12 PM (KAi1n)
58
In the late 80's, my brother came in 2nd in some mega-ginormous Battletech convention.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 01, 2022 06:13 PM (KAi1n)
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Not all 'art' but most knew how to do it.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 01, 2022 06:06 PM (x61Im)
Honestly - most Victorian ladies had enough serious art training to put today's artists to shame - hell, there are consumption patient chicks from the 1890's who would have been hailed as geniuses had the modern art rolodex not taken over the art world in 1900. It was the skill of the idle rich lady of the late Victorian era and they were quite good at it. Which just goes to show, there is a lot to drawing and painting that just requires a lot of time, work and study versus sheer creative talent - that comes later.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 01, 2022 06:06 PM (x61Im)
Honestly - most Victorian ladies had enough serious art training to put today's artists to shame - hell, there are consumption patient chicks from the 1890's who would have been hailed as geniuses had the modern art rolodex not taken over the art world in 1900. It was the skill of the idle rich lady of the late Victorian era and they were quite good at it. Which just goes to show, there is a lot to drawing and painting that just requires a lot of time, work and study versus sheer creative talent - that comes later.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 06:13 PM (+Cgut)
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I'm in process of putting my work on a site so I can start linking.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:11 PM (Te2aa
Just get a free IMGBB site and start posting! Unless you intend to sell, then of course, you should generate a web site geared towards that...
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:11 PM (Te2aa
Just get a free IMGBB site and start posting! Unless you intend to sell, then of course, you should generate a web site geared towards that...
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 06:16 PM (+Cgut)
61
Is working on the house considered a hobby?
I replaced three crank operators for casement windows yesterday. Only cost $75 in parts instead of having a window guy charge me $350 or so.
I enjoy it so there's that.
Posted by: Tonypete
All righty then !
Anybody looking at the house ?
I replaced three crank operators for casement windows yesterday. Only cost $75 in parts instead of having a window guy charge me $350 or so.
I enjoy it so there's that.
Posted by: Tonypete
All righty then !
Anybody looking at the house ?
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 06:16 PM (T4tVD)
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46 ... Thomas Bender,
Thanks for the suggested books. I will check into them. I do have some wonderful art books picked up over the years at used book stores and library sales. There's a lot of great information out there, even more now that YT channels about art exist. My biggest problem is not getting so involved in the books and videos that I don't actually sketch anything.
Thanks for the suggested books. I will check into them. I do have some wonderful art books picked up over the years at used book stores and library sales. There's a lot of great information out there, even more now that YT channels about art exist. My biggest problem is not getting so involved in the books and videos that I don't actually sketch anything.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:16 PM (7EjX1)
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Last night I watched the documentary, Tim's Vemeer. Either this guy is an art savant or they're pulling my leg. Even if you accept his mirror contraption works perfectly, you still have to be able to mix paint to achieve the right tone/ value. I can't believe he became an expert at that skill which would be required to complete the copy of a Vemeer.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:18 PM (Te2aa)
64
DaVinci wore gloves while painting, but they were Gore-Tex.
Posted by: Top Of gp's Mind at October 01, 2022 06:20 PM (24fqN)
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51 ... "Did one attempt with colored pencils (first drawing):
https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w
Never tried again - too difficult to get right. You can't "play" with colored pencils - you have to lay things down right the first time as erasure and blending is pretty ugly."
Boswell,
That example of your 'failure' to use color is about five gazillion times better than my attempts. Thanks for posting that link.
https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w
Never tried again - too difficult to get right. You can't "play" with colored pencils - you have to lay things down right the first time as erasure and blending is pretty ugly."
Boswell,
That example of your 'failure' to use color is about five gazillion times better than my attempts. Thanks for posting that link.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:20 PM (7EjX1)
66
...there is a lot to drawing and painting that just requires a lot of time, work and study versus sheer creative talent - that comes later.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 06:13 PM
Y'know, Boswell, I'd made this proposal some weeks ago on the ONT, and it still stands:
If you draw the cobs (or even just one of them -- your choice) and put them up at your ___bb page, I'll drop a C-note in Ace's tip jar...
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 06:13 PM
Y'know, Boswell, I'd made this proposal some weeks ago on the ONT, and it still stands:
If you draw the cobs (or even just one of them -- your choice) and put them up at your ___bb page, I'll drop a C-note in Ace's tip jar...
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:21 PM (ozXUI)
67
My cat just bitch-slapped me. Bloody hell!
Posted by: SFGoth at October 01, 2022
***
When my cats do something like that, I fall back on the classic "Bad cats don't get dinner," or "Time for you to go back (to the breeder or shelter or whatever)." Of course I don't mean it and the cat knows nothing terrible will happen. When Chekov D. Siberian would nip me -- which he did approximately once a month for 12 years -- I'd give him a sharp but light slap on the flank. He'd leap away . . . and be back on my lap within 5 minutes.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 01, 2022
***
When my cats do something like that, I fall back on the classic "Bad cats don't get dinner," or "Time for you to go back (to the breeder or shelter or whatever)." Of course I don't mean it and the cat knows nothing terrible will happen. When Chekov D. Siberian would nip me -- which he did approximately once a month for 12 years -- I'd give him a sharp but light slap on the flank. He'd leap away . . . and be back on my lap within 5 minutes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2022 06:22 PM (c6xtn)
68
When I see projects like that briefcase game station, I feel like the men who were not there on St Crispin's day; and I hold my manhood cheap as I look on it.
well I don't "Hold it" hold it, it's a m - m - m - metaphor.
well I don't "Hold it" hold it, it's a m - m - m - metaphor.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2022 06:22 PM (r46W7)
69
I can't believe he became an expert at that skill which would be required to complete the copy of a Vemeer.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:18 PM (Te2aa)
I think I saw something once online "How to paint like Vemeer" or some such - the guy was using that old-fashioned mirror projection thingy onto a canvas. But to get things right, sure you can outline a photo or a projection to avoid mistakes in proportions - but you still have to tone, shade and color things correctly - and that takes study, time, and practice - otherwise the whole thing just looks flat and ugly - like you just copied the outline of an old photo.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:18 PM (Te2aa)
I think I saw something once online "How to paint like Vemeer" or some such - the guy was using that old-fashioned mirror projection thingy onto a canvas. But to get things right, sure you can outline a photo or a projection to avoid mistakes in proportions - but you still have to tone, shade and color things correctly - and that takes study, time, and practice - otherwise the whole thing just looks flat and ugly - like you just copied the outline of an old photo.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 06:24 PM (+Cgut)
70
It occurred to me that Christmas is coming, and I do not have a bulldog-shape pipe in my collection. They can be had both new and vintage, expensive and in-. The hard part is deciding on what finish and what stem material I want. Lotsa choices.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2022 06:24 PM (c6xtn)
71
Mister Scott ever gloom into picture posting?
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 06:24 PM (xhxe8)
72
If you draw the cobs (or even just one of them -- your choice) and put them up at your ___bb page, I'll drop a C-note in Ace's tip jar...
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:21 PM (ozXUI)
Ohhhh - but who? CBD? JJ? Or, gulp...KT?
I did the ewok, though...
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:21 PM (ozXUI)
Ohhhh - but who? CBD? JJ? Or, gulp...KT?
I did the ewok, though...
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 06:26 PM (+Cgut)
73
@62
>>My biggest problem is not getting so involved in the books and videos that I don't actually sketch anything.
The secret is to simplify your tool set to the barest of essentials and carry it with you wherever you go.
My EDC kit for drawing is a 5 position multi pen that has a 0.5 pencil, brown, black, red and blue ink, a pentel waterbrush, three pentel brush pens filled with black, sepia and sanguine ink, watercolor pans that are housed in a mini altoids tin and a stilman and birn sketchbook all of this fits into a small pouch that is worn on my belt or I can stuff into a cargo pocket.
I typically sketch at lunch which is a pretty nice way to spend lunch.
>>My biggest problem is not getting so involved in the books and videos that I don't actually sketch anything.
The secret is to simplify your tool set to the barest of essentials and carry it with you wherever you go.
My EDC kit for drawing is a 5 position multi pen that has a 0.5 pencil, brown, black, red and blue ink, a pentel waterbrush, three pentel brush pens filled with black, sepia and sanguine ink, watercolor pans that are housed in a mini altoids tin and a stilman and birn sketchbook all of this fits into a small pouch that is worn on my belt or I can stuff into a cargo pocket.
I typically sketch at lunch which is a pretty nice way to spend lunch.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 06:26 PM (up/3i)
74
If didn't do Napoleonics as a %100 army, would l I keep to do WWII, but probably just tanks game. Really was going to get some last Historicon but was diving into Napoleonic and didn't get any I was planning.
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 06:27 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:27 PM (ozXUI)
76
I agree about crap artists but there are thousands of painters right now with tremendous skills. The problem comes from artists trying to separate themselves from everyone else so they can get noticed.
I don't necessarily like human copying machines but he's a lot of fun to watch paint . Michael James Smith.
I don't necessarily like human copying machines but he's a lot of fun to watch paint . Michael James Smith.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:27 PM (Te2aa)
77
I have that "Tim's Vermeer" DVD. It was fascinating. Obviously, Tim has a lot of talent in addition to his engineering knowledge.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:29 PM (7EjX1)
78
MisHum, WeirdDave??
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:27 PM (ozXUI)
Ohh - MisHum - now that is a challenge - have no idea what he looks like at all. Or his age...unless he's 29 like the rest of us.
Might have to work on that....
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:27 PM (ozXUI)
Ohh - MisHum - now that is a challenge - have no idea what he looks like at all. Or his age...unless he's 29 like the rest of us.
Might have to work on that....
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 06:30 PM (+Cgut)
79
A hobby can provide calm when you're worried and help establish a sense of peace when all else seems out of your hands. I had a family member in the hospital and was feeling overwhelmed. I went to the car and brought back a simple knitting project. The repetitive motion helped channel my energy and helped me focus on the situation in a better way. I was able to pour through the literature on the medications and procedures in a way I was unable to beforebI took that 25 minute break from dread. I was also able to use that as a way of staying up all night to help monitor.
Posted by: CN at October 01, 2022 06:31 PM (Zzbjj)
80
Anybody looking at the house ?
Posted by: JT
Lots of showings but nothing definite yet. Thanks for asking!
Hilarious pieces of contradictory feedback - e.g. "Kitchen too big." - "Kitchen too small."
Posted by: JT
Lots of showings but nothing definite yet. Thanks for asking!
Hilarious pieces of contradictory feedback - e.g. "Kitchen too big." - "Kitchen too small."
Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 06:31 PM (LsEU/)
81
Michael James Smith.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:27 PM (Te2aa)
I'll look him up online - love this type of stuff. Sounds very interesting.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:27 PM (Te2aa)
I'll look him up online - love this type of stuff. Sounds very interesting.
Posted by: Boswell at October 01, 2022 06:32 PM (+Cgut)
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:32 PM (ozXUI)
83
Lots of showings but nothing definite yet. Thanks for asking!
Hilarious pieces of contradictory feedback - e.g. "Kitchen too big." - "Kitchen too small."
Posted by: Tonypete
Best of Luck with that !
Hilarious pieces of contradictory feedback - e.g. "Kitchen too big." - "Kitchen too small."
Posted by: Tonypete
Best of Luck with that !
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 06:33 PM (T4tVD)
84
Boswell still haven't posted the picture of me at TMP but will on one of my threads. Still giggling you did that
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 06:33 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:35 PM (ozXUI)
86
have that "Tim's Vermeer" DVD. It was fascinating. Obviously, Tim has a lot of talent in addition to his engineering knowledge.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:29 PM (7EjX1)
Not saying he didn't do it but he claims to not be a painter. Mixing paint to get the right color / value is a skill that takes time to learn. That it's presented that he did it on the fly is hard to believe.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:29 PM (7EjX1)
Not saying he didn't do it but he claims to not be a painter. Mixing paint to get the right color / value is a skill that takes time to learn. That it's presented that he did it on the fly is hard to believe.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:35 PM (Te2aa)
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:35 PM (ozXUI)
88
I'd like to start doing some projects around the house and I have a few tools, but probably need a few more. If I could only get one, would I be better off getting a table saw or a miter saw?
(I don't know if this really counts as a *hobby* but some of the results will be more fun than others)
(I don't know if this really counts as a *hobby* but some of the results will be more fun than others)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2022 06:36 PM (llON8)
89
Mister Scott ever gloom into picture posting?
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 06:24 PM
No but I am on the IMGBB page that was mentioned upthread. Looking at it but right now it appears to be extremely ad intensive unless you have a paid subscription.
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 06:24 PM
No but I am on the IMGBB page that was mentioned upthread. Looking at it but right now it appears to be extremely ad intensive unless you have a paid subscription.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2022 06:37 PM (bVYXr)
90
I'd like to start doing some projects around the house and I have a few tools, but probably need a few more. If I could only get one, would I be better off getting a table saw or a miter saw?
(I don't know if this really counts as a *hobby* but some of the results will be more fun than others)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
What are you sawing ?
(I don't know if this really counts as a *hobby* but some of the results will be more fun than others)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
What are you sawing ?
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 06:38 PM (T4tVD)
91
73 ... "The secret is to simplify your tool set to the barest of essentials and carry it with you wherever you go."
TB,
My bare essentials right now is a small sketch pad with smooth paper, a 2B pencil, couple of charcoal pencils, a sharpener and a clickable eraser. Good enough for now and it keeps me looking at the world around me for subjects. I should add a container with Conte crayons. I've become especially fond of the sanguine color combined with black.
TB,
My bare essentials right now is a small sketch pad with smooth paper, a 2B pencil, couple of charcoal pencils, a sharpener and a clickable eraser. Good enough for now and it keeps me looking at the world around me for subjects. I should add a container with Conte crayons. I've become especially fond of the sanguine color combined with black.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:39 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 01, 2022 06:40 PM (R/m4+)
93
I'd like to start doing some projects around the house and I have a few tools, but probably need a few more. If I could only get one, would I be better off getting a table saw or a miter saw?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
It depends on how you will use them? What projects do you have on deck?
(If the project is a deck, a miter saw btw)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
It depends on how you will use them? What projects do you have on deck?
(If the project is a deck, a miter saw btw)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 06:41 PM (LsEU/)
94
No hobbies here. Too much to do around the house and too cheap to risk paying a 'skilled craftsman' to do a half-assed for five times what it cost for parts alone (retail... you know they get it wholesale).
Just got a MIG welder and kitted up to repair lawn tractor mowing deck that cost $350 alone. That and repairing auto exhaust will pay for the kit by itself.
Then maybe I can make that windmill I having been thinking of using to drive a farmhouse pitcher pump. Water into small cistern and then drip irrigate what needs water to grow.
Just got a MIG welder and kitted up to repair lawn tractor mowing deck that cost $350 alone. That and repairing auto exhaust will pay for the kit by itself.
Then maybe I can make that windmill I having been thinking of using to drive a farmhouse pitcher pump. Water into small cistern and then drip irrigate what needs water to grow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 01, 2022 06:41 PM (ezegV)
95
>>> 90 I'd like to start doing some projects around the house and I have a few tools, but probably need a few more. If I could only get one, would I be better off getting a table saw or a miter saw?
(I don't know if this really counts as a *hobby* but some of the results will be more fun than others)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
What are you sawing ?
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 06:38 PM (T4tVD)
Mostly 2x4s, some fence planks, other sizes of lumber - iow no felled tree parts
. Might be building a small chicken tractor with wheels, a cat tree, some flat carts, little things like that.
(I don't know if this really counts as a *hobby* but some of the results will be more fun than others)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
What are you sawing ?
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 06:38 PM (T4tVD)
Mostly 2x4s, some fence planks, other sizes of lumber - iow no felled tree parts
. Might be building a small chicken tractor with wheels, a cat tree, some flat carts, little things like that.Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2022 06:42 PM (llON8)
96
Helena Handbasket, a skill saw is a more useful tool if you have good clamps and guides.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 06:42 PM (Kxbrc)
97
Said before Postimage gets me what I need to post pictures here and at TMP and free
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 06:42 PM (xhxe8)
98
My next hobby venture will be to take some saxophone lessons. I learned to play 40 years ago and did so for about 5 years as a young teenager . I bought a sax right before the Covid shutdown and started playing again. I have not improved.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:44 PM (Te2aa)
99
Very Cool Semper Why!
Dig Dug was a fun game back in the day...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 01, 2022 06:40 PM (R/m4+)
I became high score holder of Moon Patrol at my local mall.
Dig Dug was a fun game back in the day...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 01, 2022 06:40 PM (R/m4+)
I became high score holder of Moon Patrol at my local mall.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:45 PM (Te2aa)
100
It could apply to almost any hobby but Mrs. JTB has remarked several times that when sketching or whittling I look relaxed, almost peaceful. A bit of a change from my usual 'pissed off' expression.
I suspect the result would be the same if I did knitting or crochet.
I suspect the result would be the same if I did knitting or crochet.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:48 PM (7EjX1)
101
@91
>>I should add a container with Conte crayons. I've become especially fond of the sanguine color combined with black.
You should do that.
That's why I carry around the watercolor pans in the Altoid tin, it lets me thrown down tone very quickly so I can sketch over it.
>>I should add a container with Conte crayons. I've become especially fond of the sanguine color combined with black.
You should do that.
That's why I carry around the watercolor pans in the Altoid tin, it lets me thrown down tone very quickly so I can sketch over it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 06:49 PM (up/3i)
102
Helena - I won a $3,500 table saw in a raffle a few years ago. I sold it for a giant bandsaw and other tools. I know people who think that was dumb, but the table saw served me little purpose for what I was doing. I have a miter saw, bandsaw, circular saw, many hand saws. Each does a different job for me, and I'm glad I don't have that behemoth in my garage. But I'm mostly a hand tool guy, so it's easy for me to say this. A table saw is versatile, some people will say it's essential. But it truly depends on the things you do.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 01, 2022 06:49 PM (RG7Wy)
103
Ben Had,
I've been going through those art books you were so kind to send. They are a big help. And as I learn more, they are even more helpful.
I've been going through those art books you were so kind to send. They are a big help. And as I learn more, they are even more helpful.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:51 PM (7EjX1)
104
Helena Handbasket, a skill saw is a more useful tool if you have good clamps and guides.
Posted by: Ben Had
Make sure you harken to the last two items. A skill saw without clamps and guides just doesn't... ahem... cut it so to speak.
And for those clamps think about the largest item you will be cutting because most if not all clamps can be closed down to smaller sized pieces.
Posted by: Ben Had
Make sure you harken to the last two items. A skill saw without clamps and guides just doesn't... ahem... cut it so to speak.
And for those clamps think about the largest item you will be cutting because most if not all clamps can be closed down to smaller sized pieces.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 01, 2022 06:51 PM (ItDxt)
105
President Trump is due to speak at the Save America Rally in Warren, MI at 1900 EDT...
is.gd/GEOTUS_MI_011022
(rumble.com)
President Trump is due to speak at the Save America Rally in Warren, MI at 1900 EDT...
is.gd/GEOTUS_MI_011022
(rumble.com)
Posted by: Zettai at October 01, 2022 06:52 PM (Xv++3)
106
Then maybe I can make that windmill I having been thinking of using to drive a farmhouse pitcher pump. Water into small cistern and then drip irrigate what needs water to grow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 01, 2022 06:41 PM (ezegV)
be careful with galvanized metals
the fumes can kill
Then maybe I can make that windmill I having been thinking of using to drive a farmhouse pitcher pump. Water into small cistern and then drip irrigate what needs water to grow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 01, 2022 06:41 PM (ezegV)
be careful with galvanized metals
the fumes can kill
Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 06:53 PM (us2H3)
107
It could apply to almost any hobby but Mrs. JTB has remarked several times that when sketching or whittling I look relaxed, almost peaceful. A bit of a change from my usual 'pissed off' expression.
I suspect the result would be the same if I did knitting or crochet.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:48 PM
My wife said the same thing to me when I had to replace the battery in my truck. She said I looked happy for the first time in years while I was working on my truck.
After I sat down and processed what she had said, I realized that yes I was happy. Apparently I am not happy unless I am fixing something that is broken.
I suspect the result would be the same if I did knitting or crochet.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:48 PM
My wife said the same thing to me when I had to replace the battery in my truck. She said I looked happy for the first time in years while I was working on my truck.
After I sat down and processed what she had said, I realized that yes I was happy. Apparently I am not happy unless I am fixing something that is broken.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2022 06:53 PM (bVYXr)
108
JTB, wonderful. I am so glad they are being used. I have not forgotten your mesquite for carving. I'll get it to you after the MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 06:55 PM (Kxbrc)
109
be careful with galvanized metals
the fumes can kill
Posted by: REDACTED
Before heating galvanized metal a friend puts them in a bucket of pool acid (outside!) to take the zinc off them.
It works and is a whole lot easier than grinding.
the fumes can kill
Posted by: REDACTED
Before heating galvanized metal a friend puts them in a bucket of pool acid (outside!) to take the zinc off them.
It works and is a whole lot easier than grinding.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 01, 2022 06:55 PM (ItDxt)
110
Just saw an ad on the interboob for workers in the Fort Myers/Naples area for hurricane clean up work.
$4,000.00 a week plus living quarters and per diem,etc.
Gonna be hot and heavy work. Could be a scam though.
$4,000.00 a week plus living quarters and per diem,etc.
Gonna be hot and heavy work. Could be a scam though.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 01, 2022 06:57 PM (R/m4+)
111
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 06:49 PM (up/3i)
If you like watercolor, Look up Duncan Simmons. He was a claims adjuster who eventually opened a claims adjusting company in Houston with some friends. At 62 he decided to sell his share of the company and go all in as a professional painter. Made quite a name for himself in Houston and actually internationally. Some of the best watercolor I've seen. Almost look like oil.
If you like watercolor, Look up Duncan Simmons. He was a claims adjuster who eventually opened a claims adjusting company in Houston with some friends. At 62 he decided to sell his share of the company and go all in as a professional painter. Made quite a name for himself in Houston and actually internationally. Some of the best watercolor I've seen. Almost look like oil.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 06:58 PM (Te2aa)
112
108 .. Ben Had,
You have so much to do, MoMe or not. Please don't be concerned about the mesquite.
You have so much to do, MoMe or not. Please don't be concerned about the mesquite.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 06:58 PM (7EjX1)
113
I often use any straight edge with my circular saw and clamps. Another board, aluminum angle, whatever.
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 06:59 PM (xhxe8)
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I find commercial cat tree plans offensive. I make them out of for real trees. The bases are slabs that have been cut by tree services. I will even use hollow logs as hidey holes incorporated in them.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 07:00 PM (Kxbrc)
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I often use any straight edge with my circular saw and clamps. Another board, aluminum angle, whatever.
Posted by: Skip
A passed out bum's forearm ?
Posted by: Skip
A passed out bum's forearm ?
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 07:01 PM (T4tVD)
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Helena - I won a $3,500 table saw in a raffle a few years ago. I sold it for a giant bandsaw and other tools. I know people who think that was dumb, but the table saw served me little purpose for what I was doing. I have a miter saw, bandsaw, circular saw, many hand saws. Each does a different job for me, and I'm glad I don't have that behemoth in my garage. But I'm mostly a hand tool guy, so it's easy for me to say this. A table saw is versatile, some people will say it's essential. But it truly depends on the things you do.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 01, 2022 06:49 PM (RG7Wy)
In a perfect world..ALL. But yeah, it really does depend on what you are doing. When I was building classical guitars the band saw was my baby, and hardly touched the table saw. If I'm doing furniture or big stuff, the table saw is my go to.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 01, 2022 06:49 PM (RG7Wy)
In a perfect world..ALL. But yeah, it really does depend on what you are doing. When I was building classical guitars the band saw was my baby, and hardly touched the table saw. If I'm doing furniture or big stuff, the table saw is my go to.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 01, 2022 07:02 PM (VwHCD)
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JTB painting Miniatures to me is relaxing, gets mind off daily issues for at least a little while
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 07:02 PM (xhxe8)
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JTB, sending it is going to be self serving, I assure you!
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 07:02 PM (Kxbrc)
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Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 01, 2022 07:02 PM (VwHCD
You have an impressive set of guy skills.
You have an impressive set of guy skills.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 07:04 PM (Te2aa)
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I built all the furniture I have in my house without a table saw.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 07:04 PM (Kxbrc)
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Guessing you wouldn’t get that past security at the airport.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 01, 2022 05:09 PM (u73oe)
In 2007 I went to New York, and at the last minute my company gave me a Centipede type trackball, with a mess of wires, relevant to my project. If there was a prize for "things that look like bombs" surely I would have won.
Was not held up or given the gay pat-down at any point.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 01, 2022 05:09 PM (u73oe)
In 2007 I went to New York, and at the last minute my company gave me a Centipede type trackball, with a mess of wires, relevant to my project. If there was a prize for "things that look like bombs" surely I would have won.
Was not held up or given the gay pat-down at any point.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 01, 2022 07:05 PM (ybIRR)
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Was not held up or given the gay pat-down at any point.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 01, 2022 07:05 PM (ybIRR)
That's disconcerting 😁
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 01, 2022 07:05 PM (ybIRR)
That's disconcerting 😁
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 07:06 PM (Te2aa)
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117. Stress reducer, calming. Many hobbies can do that and portable hobbies can do it almost anywhere..
Posted by: CN at October 01, 2022 07:06 PM (Zzbjj)
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the band saw is the most versatile floor tool
if you look around, you can find a old powermatic for a few hundred
they are heavy enuff so they don't walk around all over the shop
try and get one with decent tires
gold is good, green is better
if you look around, you can find a old powermatic for a few hundred
they are heavy enuff so they don't walk around all over the shop
try and get one with decent tires
gold is good, green is better
Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 07:07 PM (us2H3)
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I found that, bringing my knitting to the hospital, "humanized" me for the nurses. I wasn't just some woman hanging out in the room.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 01, 2022 07:07 PM (uz3Px)
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@111
>>If you like watercolor, Look up Duncan Simmons.
I'll have to check him out, he doesn't readily come up on an internet search.
One of my favorite artists is a watercolor artist named David Lobenberg, his portraits art just these amazing bright tones that are full of life and energy.
>>If you like watercolor, Look up Duncan Simmons.
I'll have to check him out, he doesn't readily come up on an internet search.
One of my favorite artists is a watercolor artist named David Lobenberg, his portraits art just these amazing bright tones that are full of life and energy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 07:08 PM (up/3i)
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57 My cat just bitch-slapped me. Bloody hell!
Posted by: SFGoth at October 01, 2022 06:12 PM (KAi1n)
I know a guy with a big giant dually truck.....(cats flattened while u wait...)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 01, 2022 06:12 PM (KAi1n)
I know a guy with a big giant dually truck.....(cats flattened while u wait...)
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at October 01, 2022 07:08 PM (7SwmH)
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You have an impressive set of guy skills.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 07:04 PM (Te2aa)
Its just wood skills. Master the tools and you can build anything. A good 90% of the well known old world classical guitar makers from the mid 1800s to early 1900s all seemed to all be trained cabinet makers. The tools at that time were mostly the same, so they already knew the tools. After that its just shapes, what shape do you want it.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 07:04 PM (Te2aa)
Its just wood skills. Master the tools and you can build anything. A good 90% of the well known old world classical guitar makers from the mid 1800s to early 1900s all seemed to all be trained cabinet makers. The tools at that time were mostly the same, so they already knew the tools. After that its just shapes, what shape do you want it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 01, 2022 07:08 PM (VwHCD)
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When I was building my house, I bought a table saw. My friend bought a radial arm saw. He said it was really not that useful.
Posted by: Ronster at October 01, 2022 07:09 PM (eTPr1)
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I could draw just not my interest, but my uncle who was quite the artist left some supplies I grabbed, have charcoal pencils and bunch of other drawing pencils. Used a bunch at work but lead is extremely hard.
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 07:10 PM (xhxe8)
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REDACTED, I still kick myself for not buying one I saw in the pawn shop. It was a green one and the price was so worth it.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 07:11 PM (Kxbrc)
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Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 07:08 PM (up/3i)
Put in Duncan Simmons artist or 2 collaborating artists.
Put in Duncan Simmons artist or 2 collaborating artists.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 07:11 PM (Te2aa)
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Thomas Bender,
About your EDC kit. I just found a Winsor and Newton Cotman watercolor sketch box. It's 2 1/4 x 5 inches, has twelve half pans of color, a tiny brush and the lid has three places for mixing. It is so well designed I should learn to use it just for the heck of it.
About your EDC kit. I just found a Winsor and Newton Cotman watercolor sketch box. It's 2 1/4 x 5 inches, has twelve half pans of color, a tiny brush and the lid has three places for mixing. It is so well designed I should learn to use it just for the heck of it.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 07:11 PM (7EjX1)
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Its just wood skills. Master the tools and you can build anything. A good 90% of the well known old world classical guitar makers from the mid 1800s to early 1900s all seemed to all be trained cabinet makers. The tools at that time were mostly the same, so they already knew the tools. After that its just shapes, what shape do you want it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 01, 2022 07:08 PM (VwHCD)
when you get the time, whip me out a Earl of Harrington Commode
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 01, 2022 07:08 PM (VwHCD)
when you get the time, whip me out a Earl of Harrington Commode
Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 07:12 PM (us2H3)
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125. It provides an approachable topic. When I was working I felt I needed something approachable and easy to comment on, so I always wore an odd brooch or bracelet.( you can't sit knitting on a psychiatric ICU). Patients and families often made comments about a colorful bracelet, as a way of getting to their real concerns. So I suspect it works in reverse. " how's the sweater coming along, Mrs Thoreau " can slip into how the treatment plan is coming along or changing .
Posted by: CN at October 01, 2022 07:13 PM (Zzbjj)
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132 REDACTED, I still kick myself for not buying one I saw in the pawn shop. It was a green one and the price was so worth it.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 07:11 PM (Kxbrc)
find another, they are handy machines
I've got one in my basement
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 07:11 PM (Kxbrc)
find another, they are handy machines
I've got one in my basement
Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 07:14 PM (us2H3)
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Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 01, 2022 07:08 PM (VwHCD)
How many could professionally play the guitar they made while repairing a Harley. Not many.
How many could professionally play the guitar they made while repairing a Harley. Not many.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 07:14 PM (Te2aa)
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people like Berserker won't be easily replaced in the next 100 years
Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 07:17 PM (us2H3)
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One of my favorite artists is a watercolor artist named David Lobenberg, his portraits art just these amazing bright tones that are full of life and energy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 07:08 PM (up/3i)
He reminds me of LeRoy Neiman but with better rendering.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 07:08 PM (up/3i)
He reminds me of LeRoy Neiman but with better rendering.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 07:17 PM (Te2aa)
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We had a good Craftsman table saw but after a while we gave it to a fine young couple, dear friends, who would really use it. Never regretted that. I've found you can accomplish a lot with a folding Workmate bench, some clamps and a circular saw or handsaw. I do value my old bench top band saw.
Posted by: JTB at October 01, 2022 07:19 PM (7EjX1)
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@133
>>Put in Duncan Simmons artist or 2 collaborating artists.
Amazing. Realist watercolor is so difficult.
That's the thing about watercolor, you really got one shot to get it right and can easily ruin your work if you lose control of your water.
>>Put in Duncan Simmons artist or 2 collaborating artists.
Amazing. Realist watercolor is so difficult.
That's the thing about watercolor, you really got one shot to get it right and can easily ruin your work if you lose control of your water.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 07:19 PM (up/3i)
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There are many skilled people on AoS. One guy that impresses me is AOP. He seems to know what he is doing with anything he tries.
Posted by: Ronster at October 01, 2022 07:21 PM (eTPr1)
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That's the thing about watercolor, you really got one shot to get it right and can easily ruin your work if you lose control of your water.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 07:19 PM (up/3i)
Yep. I'm putting myself down but oil is probably the easiest because you can blend and repair mistakes fairly easy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 07:19 PM (up/3i)
Yep. I'm putting myself down but oil is probably the easiest because you can blend and repair mistakes fairly easy.
Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 07:22 PM (Te2aa)
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A dear friend is the premier bit maker/silversmith in the world. Many have learned the trade but none have captured the warmth he can carve into silver let alone the balance his bits have in a horses mouth. Apprenticeships were such a good thing.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 07:24 PM (Kxbrc)
145
the band saw is the most versatile floor tool
if you look around, you can find a old powermatic for a few hundred.
they are heavy enuff so they don't walk around all over the shop
Posted by: REDACTED
I had a monster 36" Tannewitz for about 20 years, it was just getting broken in. Holy cow was she beautiful. One of these days I'll pick up a Powermatic and rebuild it.
if you look around, you can find a old powermatic for a few hundred.
they are heavy enuff so they don't walk around all over the shop
Posted by: REDACTED
I had a monster 36" Tannewitz for about 20 years, it was just getting broken in
. Holy cow was she beautiful. One of these days I'll pick up a Powermatic and rebuild it. Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 07:25 PM (LsEU/)
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"Mostly 2x4s, some fence planks, other sizes of lumber - iow no felled tree parts . Might be building a small chicken tractor with wheels, a cat tree, some flat carts, little things like that."
For that list, I think I'd go for the compound miter saw. That'll all be cross cuts, but if you get one with all the features you can do miter cuts in any given face of the lumber.
If you need to do any rip cuts, a compound miter saw isn't going to help you - that's where a table saw would be best. You can do the cross cuts on a table saw as well, but I think that tend to require specialized sleds.
If course if you need something that can do the miters ~and~ crosscuts ~and~ rips, what you actually want is a hand held circular saw. It's harder to cut things to exactly the same length with those though, since you don't usually have length stops the way you do with the other two saws.
And requires a certain amount of arm strength.
For that list, I think I'd go for the compound miter saw. That'll all be cross cuts, but if you get one with all the features you can do miter cuts in any given face of the lumber.
If you need to do any rip cuts, a compound miter saw isn't going to help you - that's where a table saw would be best. You can do the cross cuts on a table saw as well, but I think that tend to require specialized sleds.
If course if you need something that can do the miters ~and~ crosscuts ~and~ rips, what you actually want is a hand held circular saw. It's harder to cut things to exactly the same length with those though, since you don't usually have length stops the way you do with the other two saws.
And requires a certain amount of arm strength.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 01, 2022 07:25 PM (JmXNy)
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AOP has helped me often with small engine equipment
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 07:25 PM (xhxe8)
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I consider myself a jack of some trades, a master of none.
Posted by: Ronster at October 01, 2022 07:25 PM (eTPr1)
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I enjoy strangling Munchkins.
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I know what you mean, those min/max power gamers really irritate me too.
I enjoy strangling Munchkins.
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I know what you mean, those min/max power gamers really irritate me too.
Posted by: exdem13 at October 01, 2022 07:26 PM (W+kMI)
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 07:27 PM (T4tVD)
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The emulator games are a ton of fun. I played hours of Advance Wars 2 despite not owning a ?color game boy? and that is a terrific game.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 01, 2022 07:28 PM (ybIRR)
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My uncle had a fantastic wood shop, large table saw, ban saw, router table, planer, joiner, newer was a big miter saw. Can't use it due to health issues and got rid of everything.
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 07:28 PM (xhxe8)
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I had a monster 36" Tannewitz for about 20 years, it was just getting broken in . Holy cow was she beautiful. One of these days I'll pick up a Powermatic and rebuild it.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 07:25 PM (LsEU/)
when I had my large shop in Dallas, I had 36 inch Oliver and a 16 inch Tannewitz table saw, among other floor machinery
people would ask me why I had a fork lift
Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 07:25 PM (LsEU/)
when I had my large shop in Dallas, I had 36 inch Oliver and a 16 inch Tannewitz table saw, among other floor machinery
people would ask me why I had a fork lift
Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 07:29 PM (us2H3)
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Is working on the house considered a hobby?
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A full-time engagement. Stuff around here is failing faster than I can repair it. I am envious of those who have the leisure to have hobbies.
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A full-time engagement. Stuff around here is failing faster than I can repair it. I am envious of those who have the leisure to have hobbies.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2022 07:31 PM (WxuR2)
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I ended up with a old Logan lathe in exchange for mechanical drawings. That thing was a lot of fun and very useful.
Posted by: Ronster at October 01, 2022 07:35 PM (eTPr1)
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My view on power tools are that you sometimes can get one tool to somewhat do the work of other tools. Its that overlap grey area that can't be bridged. If I have to cut plywood lengthwise, a straight edge and clamps will do, and do it pretty much as good as a table saw, BUT, if I have to cut a 3" filler for a cabinet to 2 1/8" with high precision, you're not going to do that with circular saw and clamps, not with the precision. Thats table saw city. You could do it with a band saw with a fence, but you still will never get it as smooth as glass like a table saw with an 80 or 100 tooth blade would do it. Thats an area that just can't bridged. A lot of tools can simulate the performance of other tools, but only up to a point. Thats the decision one makes when it comes to buying tools, its all about that grey area. What level of precision can you live with. How much grey will you settle for.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 01, 2022 07:35 PM (VwHCD)
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 07:35 PM (T4tVD)
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Nood
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 01, 2022 07:36 PM (u73oe)
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Berserker, well said. If your project doesn't require a high level of precision you can use alternatives. Expensive tools are still faulty in the hands of the inexperienced.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 01, 2022 07:41 PM (Kxbrc)
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A happy hobby story: in the midst of a sweater, I realized I had misestimated, and was short a skein. I e-mailed the yarn shop, wailing: it's all my fault, I'm an idiot, but do you possibly have an orphan skein of Wild Lupine in your warehouse? (The color was no longer listed on their site.)
A reply from customer service: None in the warehouse, but I have a skein in my personal stash.
She told me to skein of the yarn in any color and in the "Special Instructions" say "replace this with Wild Lupine from Zsa Zsa's stash."
All went well. And I now have a sales slip with special instructions that say "Replace Green Pickle with Wild Lupine from Zsa Zsa's stash." Which I intend to keep forever.
This has been a very medical time in my house. The random kindness of strangers is a powerful thing.
A reply from customer service: None in the warehouse, but I have a skein in my personal stash.
She told me to skein of the yarn in any color and in the "Special Instructions" say "replace this with Wild Lupine from Zsa Zsa's stash."
All went well. And I now have a sales slip with special instructions that say "Replace Green Pickle with Wild Lupine from Zsa Zsa's stash." Which I intend to keep forever.
This has been a very medical time in my house. The random kindness of strangers is a powerful thing.
Posted by: Wenda at October 01, 2022 07:44 PM (E5ut8)
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I had something like that, with what I call the smoking crack sweater. It was a Classic Elite design that I decided to do after they discontinued the yarn. I found everything but a distinctive pink. I wasn't used very much but it made the design. I found someone with a partial skein, leftover from knitting mittens. It was enough.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 01, 2022 07:52 PM (uz3Px)
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