Wednesday Morning Rant [Joe Mannix]

Rule by Committee

Ace has noted many times - including on Monday (reminder: do not comment on old posts) that government officials walking back statements from the President has become routine. Biden will say something stupid or reckless and some flunky will come out and "correct" the statement. This leaves me to ponder a couple of questions every time it happens.

Those questions include "was what Biden said actual policy, but it was supposed to remain secret" or "was this a total flight of fancy" or "was this confabulation, and the policy applies to something else" or "who is actually setting policy" or "is there a policy at all?" Biden is clearly not in charge and never has been. Unlike during the campaign, they can't just leave him in the basement and send surrogates around. They do that to the degree that they can, but the President is a public figure and he must address and interact with the public. Their front man has no choice but to go out and do the job, however poorly.

But who - or what - is he fronting? It is clear to me that he is not fronting any one person or even a small, tight-knit cabal that is actually in charge. What he's fronting appears to be an enormous complex of competing committees. There have been many examples, but the two big ones in my mind are the Afghanistan withdrawal and the COVID wind-down.

Afghanistan was so poorly managed that the most reasonable explanation I can come up with is competing power bases - the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. One group was closing Bagram while the other was planning to use it and had to retrench. One group was preparing to shift equipment and ongoing support to the Afghan army, the other was planning a full bug-out. The power networks collided in the deadly debacle of the final act.

COVID has been slower-motion but similar. What I call the "COVID is over" faction starting sending up trial balloons just before Delta hit. The "COVID forever" faction won that round. The "over" faction tried again in December(ish) of last year, just as Omicron was hitting. They were more successful and went harder at it. They have ultimately won the war, though the occasional battle is still being fought.

And Biden has been right there saying that both sides are right all the while. Sometimes COVID is over, sometimes COVID is never over. Sometimes Afghanistan was just bad luck and Trump's fault. Other times, it all went according to plan and was the Afghan government's fault. It likely depends on which faction is feeding him his talking points.

Then there are the other things, like inviting Russia to invade Ukraine. Was that him stupidly regurgitating what he heard at classified briefings? Was it his own creation? Was it one faction, whereas another wanted military intervention? Ditto his comments on Taiwan, or on energy policy.

The problem is that any of those explanations - and numerous more besides - are all plausible because Biden is very clearly not in charge of anything. The committees - committees that appear to be in competition at best and more likely working at cross purposes - are in charge. Rule by committee can function - albeit ineffectively and inefficiently - when stability is the norm of the day. Rule by committee is disastrous during a crisis because the buck stops ... nowhere.

And, of course, rule by committee is a great way to engender crises.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM

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1 Walkin' it back here, boss.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2022 11:01 AM (63Dwl)

2 Firstish

Posted by: Scottst at September 21, 2022 11:03 AM (nEDaf)

3 I'd like to know how the administration plans to "walk back" an executive order numbnuts makes public... like a declaration of war. Which he's come close to doing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2022 11:03 AM (BFigT)

4 I thought the climate emergency was supposed to take over from the Covid emergency.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2022 11:03 AM (63Dwl)

5 Covid is over and never over at the same time

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2022 11:03 AM (iFTx/)

6 Good morning everyone.

RE: Joe Biden - I blame you Delaware.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 11:03 AM (LsEU/)

7 Covid is a circle

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 21, 2022 11:04 AM (t4BDZ)

8 Schrodinger's Covid.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 11:05 AM (KFhLj)

9
Covid is a circle
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell

Like a wheel within a wheel?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2022 11:05 AM (63Dwl)

10 Rule by committee is rule by mob eventually.

Posted by: Scottst at September 21, 2022 11:05 AM (nEDaf)

11 The Puppeteers are sucking at their job

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 11:06 AM (98Dh+)

12 SCOVIDngers cat

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:07 AM (V1VLb)

13 With the midterms less than two months away, President Biden will no longer be able to tout falling gas prices. For the first time in nearly 100 days, gas prices rose, up to $3.681 on Wednesday from $3.674. After sinking every day for more than three months, US gas prices edged higher – by a penny – to $3.68 a gallon, on average Wednesday, according to AAA. That ends 98 consecutive days of falling pump prices, the second-longest such streak on record going back to 2005.

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:07 AM (RHGPo)

14 "Afghanistan was so poorly managed that the most reasonable explanation I can come up with is competing power bases"

I think an alternative explanation -- and the one I believe -- is that they really are that stupid and incompetent. That plus not giving a shit how many Afghans or US soldiers died. Never ever underestimate the left's stupidity, incompetence, and propensity for evil.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2022 11:07 AM (iFTx/)

15 And, of course, rule by committee is a great way to engender crises.

Yep. president Pampers latest brain fart has opened the door to the CCP invading Taiwan.

Good times abound.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 21, 2022 11:07 AM (ZSK0i)

16 Anyone walk back the AG of NY? What did she say anyway? It was supposed to be forty minutes ago, wasn't it?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 21, 2022 11:07 AM (7bRMQ)

17 The Puppeteers are sucking at their job
Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 11:06 AM (98Dh+)

So you're saying that the puppeteer is Kamala? Or is someone else sucking at their job?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 21, 2022 11:08 AM (1Z8zZ)

18 Very perceptive post.

The Democrat Junta defaults to a schoolyard adolescent presumption of invincibility. Nothing they can do will actually hurt the economy, so go ahead and promise money to everyone. Close down the economy for a pandemic and, no worries, everyone will shortly be back to work just as always. No foreign adversary can really defeat us on the battlefield, so feel free to walk away from inconvenient struggles and trust the world will still fear us. Make insane comments about defending Taiwan from 6,000 miles away, and no one will react negatively.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:08 AM (PUXju)

19 *chuckles evilly in Sun Szu*

- soros

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 21, 2022 11:08 AM (3CCua)

20 I think Biden does whatever his aides and his Chinese masters tell him to do or say. He has no cohesive thoughts, so he just reads the teleprompter and walks off after he's done.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 21, 2022 11:08 AM (bkUtD)

21 The problem with Covid being over is that Biden's only very weak justification for using his EO to unilaterally give $10,000+ debt forgiveness to college loan deadbeats was that we were in a Covid emergency. If there is no emergency he doesn't have any justification at all.

The lies are catching up.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2022 11:08 AM (ZLI7S)

22 I think that a lot of the controversies come from the Deep State versus the politico types. The Deep State, which by itself it not cohesive, to advance institutional goals. The politico types look to advance power goals and perhaps financial goals as well. The politico types are obsessed with optics while the Deep State is entranced by their own institutional goals and do not fear retribution at the polls. So you get idiotic raids on Trump's house for the Deep State DOJ types while the politico types have to figure out who takes the heat for it. Afghanistan was an example of the State and intel community v. DoD deep staters feuds with the politicos left with the fallout. And so on.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:08 AM (CXr4y)

23 And this, my friends, is why we should have limited gubmint.
So damage is limited when asshoes are in power, and we can live our lives with minimal bullshit from these dipshits.

But, commies don't want that.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 21, 2022 11:08 AM (ufFY8)

24 Ruling by committee never works in politics or war

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 11:08 AM (98Dh+)

25 His handlers are probably at two packs a day unfiltered as things get worse for him mentally.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 21, 2022 11:09 AM (4olE8)

26 The problem is that the answers to the questions simply don't matter.

Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2022 11:09 AM (pwExq)

27 is a great way to engender crises.

Isn't gendering a tool of the white cispatriarchical hegemony?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2022 11:09 AM (a3Q+t)

28 They do that to the degree that they can, but the President is a public figure and he must address and interact with the public. Their front man has no choice but to go out and do the job, however poorly
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Poorly!? You looking for a slug in the mouth?

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 21, 2022 11:09 AM (zL564)

29 life is tough. And it's even tougher when you're stupid.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 21, 2022 11:09 AM (QSjkU)

30 That's a great explanation... Biden is a puppet being controlled by multiple people without a common goal or choreography.

He has no control of his own, which is why he is constantly flailing and bewildered.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:09 AM (6FeV1)

31 Someone else, The Ho is run by Puppeteers as well

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 11:10 AM (98Dh+)

32 "Afghanistan was so poorly managed that the most reasonable explanation I can come up with is competing power bases"

*

It went exactly as planned. The Taliban controlled 25% of Afghanistan when we arrived. They control 100% now that we've left, because we acted as their proxy and took it over to give it to them.

And don't miss the part where they have more and better military equipment than something like 80% of other nations now, too. Also on purpose, btw. Remember when Biden had the night vision stuff flown in right before he knew we were abandoning the country?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:10 AM (V1VLb)

33 Think of every business meeting you've ever attended, and then think of how many of them were productive, and resulted in a clearcut set of decisions.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 11:10 AM (ayzS/)

34 Edith Wilson smiles.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 21, 2022 11:10 AM (rJ48h)

35 >>>The problem is that the answers to the questions simply don't matter.
Posted by: blaster

And when KJP throws out another lie-filled explanation, no one, not even the leftists believe her anymore.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 21, 2022 11:10 AM (bkUtD)

36 BTW, and this is OT, but Trafalgar says the Republican candidate for Minnesota governor is three points behind the Demofascist incumbent, with a margin of error of 2.9 points.

That's pretty darn near a tie. In Minnesota. Truly amazing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (PUXju)

37 I remember reading that the Third Reich was seen by its enemies as a monolithic phalanx when, in fact, nothing could have been further from the truth. The crazies in charge were always fighting each other for a bigger piece of the action.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (FVME7)

38 Poorly!? You looking for a slug in the mouth?
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 21, 2022 11:09 AM
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The President in no way, shape or form, condones the threat of violence.

Posted by: White House Spokesperson at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (zL564)

39 They should get a noise generator that activates when he speaks.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (AwYPR)

40 The Meat Puppet is on my TeleScreen yelling at clouds.

This is not going to end well is it?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (Xm7Q9)

41 I think an alternative explanation -- and the one I believe -- is that they really are that stupid and incompetent. That plus not giving a shit how many Afghans or US soldiers died. Never ever underestimate the left's stupidity, incompetence, and propensity for evil.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2022 11:07 AM (iFTx/)
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They are not mutually exclusive explanations. They are incompetent and indifferent and pursuing differing goals and running off half-cocked at the same time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (t0OGg)

42 >>>COVID has been slower-motion but similar. What I call the "COVID is over" faction starting sending up trial balloons just before Delta hit. The "COVID forever" faction won that round. The "over" faction tried again in December(ish) of last year, just as Omicron was hitting. They were more successful and went harder at it. They have ultimately won the war, though the occasional battle is still being fought.

And Brandon just recently said COVID is over, which caused problems for the Student Loan Transference faction, because the claimed authority for such was the continuing COVID emergency.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (yHsuS)

43 He has no control of his own, which is why he is constantly flailing and bewildered.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:09 AM

Not over us, at least.

Posted by: Joe Biden's Bowels at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (4p7Em)

44 And this, my friends, is why we should have limited gubmint.
So damage is limited when asshoes are in power, Ed: they're ALWAYS in power and we can live our lives with minimal bullshit from these dipshits.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (ayzS/)

45 30 That's a great explanation... Biden is a puppet being controlled by multiple people without a common goal or choreography.

He has no control of his own, which is why he is constantly flailing and bewildered.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:09 AM (6FeV1)

========

It sounds like something I've said more than once.

Joe is stealing my mind thoughts!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (LvTSG)

46 Very insightful. Thank you, Open Blogger.

Nothing helpful to add here. Breaks my heart re the young man killed for being a ‘Republican’. Chased down and murdered by a grown man. Unbelievable, but here we are. RIP and I will pray for his family and friends this week. When you are young and lose a good friend, you don’t forget it.

Posted by: Barcelona Carmen at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (CCcN5)

47 Its basic proof that cabal stole the election and needed an idiot to front it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (VwHCD)

48 KJP is sort of cute, but she is probably a dud in the sack.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (ufFY8)

49 shit for brains is addressing the UN. my $ is he declares war on russia

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (3CCua)

50 Also directly related to COVID and important, and something I haven't seen posted:

The VP for EcoHealth - the funding behind the Wuhan lab and the corporation tied directly to the Biden family - stated under oath that Fauci was directly responsible for COVID:

"Anthony Fauci funded the creation of SARS-COV2 and lied to Congress about funding Gain-of-Function work," Renz wrote in the summary – a claim also recently made by former CDC Director Robert Redfield. "Anthony Fauci and others coordinated to cover-up the funding of the Gain-of-Function work that resulted in SARS-COV2."

https://tinyurl.com/2g5qm4do

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (V1VLb)

51 Think of every business meeting you've ever attended, and then think of how many of them were productive, and resulted in a clearcut set of decisions.
Posted by: Archimedes

Was the pre-meeting meeting that was held ahead of time productive?

Inquiring minds and all that. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (LsEU/)

52 They should get a noise generator that activates when he speaks.

That's good, but Yakkity Sax on a loop would be better.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 11:13 AM (ayzS/)

53 It is better to have questions without answers than answers without questions.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2022 11:13 AM (a3Q+t)

54 It sounds like something I've said more than once.

Joe is stealing my mind thoughts!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (LvTSG)

Yeah, but in his defense, who ever actually listens to you?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:13 AM (6FeV1)

55 Meme factories offering 2x OT after Joey Shitpants ends his UN speech.

"... but, it's a stutter".

So, tired of this shitbag administration.
#FJB

Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 11:13 AM (3byMq)

56 Ignore the demented old man behind the curtain.

Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2022 11:13 AM (eTZII)

57 The President in no way, shape or form, condones the threat of violence.
Posted by: White House Spokesperson at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (zL564)

The President does, however, want to point out that anyone who opposes him is evil incarnate, an existential threat to our Precious Democracy, and a semi-fascist. -- Different White House Spokesperson

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 21, 2022 11:13 AM (1Z8zZ)

58 I think it's a little of everything to what Sundowner says, some whispers, some what he use to know or believes

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (98Dh+)

59 51 Think of every business meeting you've ever attended, and then think of how many of them were productive, and resulted in a clearcut set of decisions.
Posted by: Archimedes

one of my favorite postboard signs: We Will Continue to have Meetings Every Day until we figure out why Nothing gets Done Around Here!

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (trdmm)

60 36 BTW, and this is OT, but Trafalgar says the Republican candidate for Minnesota governor is three points behind the Demofascist incumbent, with a margin of error of 2.9 points.

That's pretty darn near a tie. In Minnesota. Truly amazing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Wave elections are like that but governor's races are always more idiosyncratic. Even more likely is a wave in state legislative races and local races. Party id counts for more in races where no one can remember who is actually running.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (CXr4y)

61 Nobody cares what Biden says. It matters what Ron Klain says. Cuz Ron does what Deep State tells him to do.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (8Sqzu)

62 That's pretty darn near a tie. In Minnesota. Truly amazing.

*

It's the 2020 election cheating scheme, nothing more. The "they're close!!!" gives cover for when the Democrat wins by cheating.

Speaking of, wasn't Minnesota where Al Franken cheated his way in?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (V1VLb)

63 54 Yeah, but in his defense, who ever actually listens to you?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:13 AM (6FeV1)

=======

I've always had a suspicion that Joe Mannix was actually a cop...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (LvTSG)

64 This does raise a few questions.

Why weren’t the 60 minutes gaffes fixed prior to airing? Everyone knows the only unscripted moments the Ficus in Chief has is when he fills his pants. Even if they weren’t in the room with him during the interview (itself hard to believe), they knew and corroborated with the 60 minutes staff on the recording.

Also, why don’t they just fit the Imbecile in the Big Chair with a shock collar and use it when he doesn’t follow the directions of the person speaking into Ficus’ ear? Have the guy stand right behind the Ficus dressed like SS, but armed with a clicker.

Posted by: Advo at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (LcnVR)

65 OT: Just had a call from the Code Enforcement guy; he's coming at about 11. And the manager of the property showed to ask what were the problems. She tried to dismiss each one I brought up, but I wouldn't let her. She also swears that somebody will be coming *this morning* to fix the ceiling. If that happens, it's gonna get crowded in here. They want the image of "We're fixing things, look!" to appear on the news, I know.

Linda took the Siberian kitten home, so I don't have to worry about a cat getting stepped on or getting outside.

I'm worn out, and the big stuff hasn't happened yet.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (c6xtn)

66 Biden stumbles into a nuke exchange:
Drink in despair.
Biden manages not to:
Drink in relief.

Win-win!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (bQfSd)

67 Mad Joe is impersonating Fetterman now at the UN. Not quite, but he is speaking in a slower cadence than I've heard before, and he's still stumbling every three sentences.

Posted by: Gref at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (AMIL/)

68 Biden is a classic weak king.

Various advisors and nobles feel free to do whatever they want and do so.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (ESjRY)

69 Rule by committee is rule by mob ~~eventually~~ right here and now.

Posted by: Scottst at September 21, 2022 11:05 AM (nEDaf)

You're soaking in it.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (yHsuS)

70 Just preemptively, World War 3 is Trump's fault. Just want to get that out there before our media friends are no longer able to broadcast.

Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (PUXju)

71 Meanwhile Democrats in Congress are pushing for billions more for testing and vaccines. They were already having trouble getting the votes before President Shit My Pants took away the justification for that spending by announcing the emergency was over.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (ZLI7S)

72 Looks like the Meat Puppet is going to push for a declaration of War on Russia.

Oh boy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (Xm7Q9)

73 KJP is sort of cute, but she is probably a dud in the sack.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM

Maybe not, if you're Dutch.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (a3Q+t)

74 America WILL retaliate with 'a devastating strike' against Russia's Black Sea Fleet or bases in Crimea if Putin follows through on threat to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, US Army's former European commander warns

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (RHGPo)

75 Was the pre-meeting meeting that was held ahead of time productive?

Inquiring minds and all that. . .

I always spoke with the necessary people beforehand, so as to get buy-in and ensure that nobody was blindsided. The meeting itself was largely ceremonial.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (ayzS/)

76 Charlie Brown’s teacher makes more sense than Joe Biden.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2022 11:15 AM (GWMPj)

77 Afghanistan was so poorly managed that the most reasonable explanation I can come up with is competing power bases - the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing.

A classic of the failure of the rule of war, Unity of Command. There can only be one boss. Not a state department dude, not the cia dude, not the military all sharing command. One commander. Period.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2022 11:15 AM (anj39)

78 And when KJP throws out another lie-filled explanation, no one, not even the leftists believe her anymore.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 21, 2022 11:10 AM (bkUtD

The holy grail of doublespeak

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:15 AM (6FeV1)

79 Biden says you can't seize a countries territory by force, which ignores pretty much all of history.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:15 AM (UuD2k)

80 I do really think there are multiple factions inside the White House all trying to steer *biden one way or another.

You've got his loyalists, probably headed up by DOCTOR Jill, the deep state operatives and then some of Obama's retreads all pulling strings. It sort of makes sense why the administration seems so unfocused.

Of course the Democrat Party is involved too. Some are on *biden's side, others not so much. Same with the GOP.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (BFigT)

81 The French during WW1 were very big on committees, with everything from strategic decisions to ordnance development. May have added over a year to the slaughter.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (lz5hY)

82 KJP is sort of cute, but she is probably a dud in the sack.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM

Maybe not, if you're Dutch.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM

Or on the women's softball team.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (4p7Em)

83 Yay, rule by committee....

Speaking of which, Governor Whitmer happily announced the Michigan Parents' Council is meeting to advise the governor. She formed it in July with Executive Order 2022-5. To wit: "Seven (7) parents, guardians, or family members (“parents”

appointed by the governor representing various communities within the state and reflecting the diverse geographic, economic, racial, cultural, age, gender, and occupational composition of this state." In other words, she picked her own crew to meet with parents around the state and do any interference/narrative-writing she needs.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (ELtOk)

84 Mumbles is gonna get us into a full out war over a country that had a GDP of Arkansas

we just get out a stoopid war and Raytheon has us into another

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (us2H3)

85 You have functional but mentally unstable people running the country. Their brains don't function like normal people. They have no self awareness, no ability to determine cause and effect . The ends, always without fail, justify the means. And like mentally unstable people, they believe their own lies.

They are like the Terminator. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity or remorse or fear. And they absolutely will not stop ever until you are dead.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (XT8yI)

86 ... Why weren’t the 60 minutes gaffes fixed prior to airing? Everyone knows the only unscripted moments the Ficus in Chief has is when he fills his pants. Even if they weren’t in the room with him during the interview (itself hard to believe), they knew and corroborated with the 60 minutes staff on the recording. ...
Posted by: Advo at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (LcnVR)
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Because the committee responsible for the interview saw no problems, but other committees panicked about it once it aired because he went off of their scripts. He was on *someone's* script, and then probably wandered off because he's a dotard, then the censor let it through because the censor is an idiot and saw no problems, then the chieftans of the various committees and factions had to scramble to undo the damage (and probably to put another layer of review in place for future engagements).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (t0OGg)

87 That's good, but Yakkity Sax on a loop would be better.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 11:13 AM (ayzS/)

That'll work.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (AwYPR)

88 >>Biden says you can't seize a countries territory by force, which ignores pretty much all of history.

Apparently he's even forgotten where he lives.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (ZLI7S)

89 It sounds like something I've said more than once.

Joe is stealing my mind thoughts!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (LvTSG)

Everything is better with boobs.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 11:17 AM (yHsuS)

90

The tell a family secret, my grandmother was Dutch...

Posted by: Kwai Chang Quim at September 21, 2022 11:17 AM (khluH)

91 This does raise a few questions.

Why weren’t the 60 minutes gaffes fixed prior to airing?

It's obvious they're greasing the skids to get rid of him.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 11:17 AM (ayzS/)

92 one of my favorite postboard signs: We Will Continue to have Meetings Every Day until we figure out why Nothing gets Done Around Here!
Posted by: Tom Servo

When my outfit switched to Agile Development and, by definition, got rid of scheduled meetings, they had three 'stand-ups' per day (not meetings mind you) to discuss what had been accomplished that day.

Shockingly, it didn't work out so well.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 11:17 AM (LsEU/)

93 Mumbles is gonna get us into a full out war over a country that had a GDP of Arkansas

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But it's THEIR money that is being threatened. That's the key thing to remember.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:17 AM (V1VLb)

94 82 KJP is sort of cute
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM

I just emailed you a coupon for Lenscrafters

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 11:17 AM (us2H3)

95 "Anthony Fauci funded the creation of SARS-COV2 and lied to Congress about funding Gain-of-Function work," Renz wrote in the summary – a claim also recently made by former CDC Director Robert Redfield. "Anthony Fauci and others coordinated to cover-up the funding of the Gain-of-Function work that resulted in SARS-COV2."

https://tinyurl.com/2g5qm4do
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (V1VLb)
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This seems big.

Posted by: Errant thought running through Bret Baier's peabrain at September 21, 2022 11:18 AM (PUXju)

96 Hey, remember when that German politician said everyone would remember where they were on September 24th?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:18 AM (V1VLb)

97 Biden is a classic weak king.

Various advisors and nobles feel free to do whatever they want and do so.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 11:14 AM (ESjRY)

Here I come!

Posted by: Odoacer at September 21, 2022 11:18 AM (7bRMQ)

98 Shockingly, it didn't work out so well.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 11:17 AM (LsEU/)

Yeah, weird.

Posted by: That cop in The Hangover at September 21, 2022 11:18 AM (ufFY8)

99 What’s this about the Dutch? Don’t be dissin’ my people…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2022 11:18 AM (GWMPj)

100 74 America WILL retaliate with 'a devastating strike' against Russia's Black Sea Fleet or bases in Crimea if Putin follows through on threat to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, US Army's former European commander warns
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We need to unleash the Kraken on them - BLM and AnitFa. Obama's Domestic Army is undefeated!

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 21, 2022 11:18 AM (8Sqzu)

101 84 93 Retardo would try for a war with Arkansas.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM (lz5hY)

102 KJP is sort of cute
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM

I just emailed you a coupon for Lenscrafters
Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 11:17 AM (us2H3)

I like looking at her. Wouldn't want to be in the same room, or have the sound on, but she ain't hard on the eyes i don't think.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM (6FeV1)

103 96 Hey, remember when that German politician said everyone would remember where they were on September 24th?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:18 AM (V1VLb)

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How did he know that my new Mazda would be delivered on that day? We hadn't even decided to buy a car when he said it!

He's got some gift.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM (LvTSG)

104 They need a big war to distract from everything else.

Its coverup culture. And when they can't cover up then they scapegoat.

Fauci's going to be getting the goat treatment, if the covid/vax thing starts to unravel. Trump also for warpspeed. They are still trying to keep a lid on it.

Posted by: this thing will get out of control, it will get out of control and we will be lucky if we live throu at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM (SVJzg)

105 I just emailed you a coupon for Lenscrafters
Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 11:17 AM (us2H3)

LOL

I said "sort of".

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM (ufFY8)

106 KJP is sort of cute

*

If you're into toilet scrubbers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM (V1VLb)

107 The French during WW1 were very big on committees, with everything from strategic decisions to ordnance development. May have added over a year to the slaughter.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 11:16 AM (lz5hY)

On the plus side, the committees were never able to agree on which direction to retreat so they held the line a bit.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM (1Z8zZ)

108 48 KJP is sort of cute, but she is probably a dud in the sack.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM (ufFY

She’s looks to me like a talking doll’s head. Kind of like a Teddy Ruxpin, but you never know what she’s going to say or what she meant to say.

Posted by: Advo at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM (LcnVR)

109 She’s looks to me like a talking doll’s head. Kind of like a Teddy Ruxpin, but you never know what she’s going to say or what she meant to say.

Neither does she.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 11:20 AM (ayzS/)

110 NYPost: Russian lawmakers blame losses on experimental Ukrainian super-soldiers

Russia on Monday outrageously claimed that its massive army has failed to deliver Ukraine to President Vladimir Putin because it is fighting against experimental super-soldiers, turned into “cruel killing machines” by US studies.

Two Russian lawmakers told reporters this week that the Kremlin is investigating the blood of Ukrainian prisoners of war, and has found “evidence” of experimentation, Russian outlet Kommersant reported.

Russian Senator Konstantin Kosachev told the outlet that the blood of Ukrainian prisoners contained traces of pathogens he claimed were “atypical” for Ukraine.

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:20 AM (RHGPo)

111 37 I remember reading that the Third Reich was seen by its enemies as a monolithic phalanx when, in fact, nothing could have been further from the truth. The crazies in charge were always fighting each other for a bigger piece of the action.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (FVME7)

I read a transcription of the post sof someone very familiar with the Russian system, and he made the surprising point that Russia currently has a very fractured command system, which is severely impacting their entire war effort. If I remember correctly, he said that the regular Russian Army is mainly in the south, involved in the defense of Kherson. The northeast - where things have been going badly - he said was being run mostly by the separatist groups of Luhansk and Donbas, along with some reconstituted formations of Russian army groups that lost a lot of men over the last 6 months. Lastly, there is the Wagner (aka Vagner) Group, the very powerful mercenaries, whose leader says that he takes orders only from Moscow and who refuses to cooperate or even communicate with any Russian Army commanders.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 11:20 AM (trdmm)

112 I like looking at her. Wouldn't want to be in the same room, or have the sound on, but she ain't hard on the eyes i don't think.
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She would make a perfect Salt & Pepper shaker set.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 21, 2022 11:20 AM (8Sqzu)

113 37 I remember reading that the Third Reich was seen by its enemies as a monolithic phalanx when, in fact, nothing could have been further from the truth. The crazies in charge were always fighting each other for a bigger piece of the action.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Yes it was. The issue was that no one that was sensible dared to contest That Man and his crew until it was too late so the ratchet was on to set the agenda that the crazed ideologues wanted. Each step taken inevitably prevented the doubters from backtracking for fear of being punished. Think we see the same thing in the DOJ/FBI collapse of integrity--the guilty fleeth when no man pursueth.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:20 AM (CXr4y)

114 This does raise a few questions.

Why weren’t the 60 minutes gaffes fixed prior to airing?

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I think it is to numb our minds and stifle our action. It's nonstop, constant head fakes and gaffes from a loon, so that when the real, live poop hits the fan, we won't see it coming and it will be too late to do anything about it. It's happened this way for the last 6 years.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (sI15f)

115 shit for brains is addressing the UN. my $ is he declares war on russia
Posted by: BifBewalski

Or Florida.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (FVME7)

116 We're going to need legislation to rid us of this climate nonsense, though laws don't mean much any longer.

Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (3byMq)

117 Anchorbabe, just don’t say that Princess Beatrice is cute. Then you’ll really see pushback.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (GWMPj)

118 KJP is sort of cute, but she is probably a dud in the sack.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM
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*Whistles innocently*
Nothing to see here.

Posted by: Paris Hilton at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (Kd3Lt)

119 I'm not seeing Discover listed as one of the CC companies doing the code thing with guns and ammo.

Posted by: Augustine at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (BDZWU)

120 Their front man has no choice but to go out and do the job, however poorly.

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Respectfully disagree, that was then -- this is now. He campaigned from his basement and couldn't draw flies at public gatherings, but with the MSM-MDM cover and corruption (like stealing a national election in broad daylight) ... why wouldn't they just keep him chained to the basement radiator?

We are in a Brave New Normal after all, and questioning why nobody's seen the POTUS in days, weeks, months, or years is seditious treasonous white supremacist conspiracy theory -- a crime punishable by life in the Garland Archipelago, until death do you depart.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (aFfQD)

121 The other one who gives me cognitive dissonance is that witch Whitmer.

I find her attractive, even though she is evil incarnate.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (ufFY8)

122 Lets also not forget the Junta factions include plenty of mercenary and short-sighted people, who think only of the immediate goal of winning the political news cycle, forgetting their job also includes ramifications of what they say. Stupidity plays a big part.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (PUXju)

123 This does raise a few questions.

Why weren’t the 60 minutes gaffes fixed prior to airing?

It's obvious they're greasing the skids to get rid of him.
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wheels are turning...

there is a lack of cohesion at the top. It will get worse. How it shakes out, only the Almighty knows.

Posted by: this thing will get out of control, it will get out of control and we will be lucky if we live throu at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (6b5eW)

124

Ever had sex with a Cabbage Patch doll?

Wanna?

Posted by: Pervo Pete at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (khluH)

125 Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2022 11:15 AM (anj39)

That's how we were able to create the atomic bomb. There should be statues of Leslie Groves next to statues of George Washington .

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (XT8yI)

126 Fractured command structure, cont'd - this writers point was that none of these different parts of the Russian command structure are even talking to each other, much less sharing supplies or resources with each other.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (trdmm)

127 >>>The holy grail of doublespeak
Posted by: Warai-otoko

I may have respected her if she was good at lying, but she cannot even do that.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (VWp7G)

128 I don't think "committee" is the right word. "Department" might be closer. I'm thinking of the line from RN ship designer D K Brown, "Disaster strikes down departmental boundaries."

Along the same lines, enemies attacking on the boundaries between two forces' areas tend to succeed.

But the point is one common to the administrative state. And note that it's one which is ALWAYS present, even when the state is minimal; there is always a split between Army, Navy, and Treasury, for instance.

(And not just governmental. In my middle age, HR departments went to be the driving forces in many companies.)

But even with these departments, there is always a split between the departmental priorities, and the ostensible goals.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (TgBWG)

129 Ever had sex with a Cabbage Patch doll?

Wanna?
Posted by: Pervo Pete

Do you like Gladiator movies?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (LsEU/)

130 It matters only when Joe is speaking ex-catheter.

Posted by: DR! Jill Biden at September 21, 2022 11:23 AM (DvTYk)

131 Did anyone figure out what happened to the flight of illegals to Delaware yesterday or was that just a rumor?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2022 11:23 AM (ZLI7S)

132 115 shit for brains is addressing the UN. my $ is he declares war on russia
Posted by: BifBewalski

Or Florida.
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My money is on Florida.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 21, 2022 11:23 AM (8Sqzu)

133 The truly depressing part is that a large part of the country is entirely okey-dokey with this. Because he's
their guy! If he was our guy they'd be having apoplectic fits. Kind of like they did during the 4 years of Trump.

Worthless fuckers, every last one of them.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 21, 2022 11:23 AM (FXeY0)

134 Where is Joey EO'ing all this money from? Obama's stash must have been drained by now one would think.

Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 11:23 AM (3byMq)

135 5 Covid is over and never over at the same time

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2022 11:03 AM (iFTx/)

The Junta denying Joe's pandemic is over assertion is a public reveal to everyone who has at least half-a-brain that the COVID response is a racket. It became a racket within a week or so of the first US case, in Washington State, in later February IIRC. This racket is so profitable and and so authoritarian-enabling I cannot foresee it ever completely ending.

A Republican POTUS beginning in 2025 who tries to end all of it at the Federal level will be fought tooth-and-nail by majorities in the House and Senate, and by the DeepState.

Posted by: Gref at September 21, 2022 11:23 AM (AMIL/)

136 14
'Never ever underestimate the left's stupidity, incompetence, and propensity for evil.'

I try not to but then they dig deeper.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (a1ycR)

137 I think an alternative explanation -- and the one I believe -- is that they really are that stupid and incompetent. That plus not giving a shit how many Afghans or US soldiers died. Never ever underestimate the left's stupidity, incompetence, and propensity for evil.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2022 11:07 AM (iFTx/)

To busy running the country to be concerned with things like "harm".

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (44ww/)

138 Russia on Monday outrageously claimed that its massive army has failed to deliver Ukraine to President Vladimir Putin because it is fighting against experimental super-soldiers, turned into “cruel killing machines” by US studies.

Dolph Lundgren Hardest Hit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (trdmm)

139 NYPost: Russian lawmakers blame losses on experimental Ukrainian super-soldiers

All those Russian "girlie-men" can't compete, especially when lead by a "girlie-man"

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (RHGPo)

140 "gobal game shanger"

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (Y5qcH)

141 107 The French during WW1 were very big on committees, with everything from strategic decisions to ordnance development. May have added over a year to the slaughter.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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French society was still fractured from the French revolution and without an emperor/king (which created its own problems), the Third Republic simply did not function that well internally. They papered over the disputes over Dreyfus among others for WWI due to being attacked, but fell apart in WWII under the same situation as the French right and left preferred the Germans win rather than their own internal opponents.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (CXr4y)

142 Scary. And getting scarier.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (W/9Bb)

143 KJP is sort of cute

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If you're into toilet scrubbers.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM

She does really need to lose the "Hair by Cabbage Patch" look.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (QBMHV)

144 61 Pudinhead I think your right

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (98Dh+)

145
If you're into toilet scrubbers.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 11:19 AM (V1VLb)

golliwog wearing a toilet brush

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 11:24 AM (us2H3)

146 "The committees - committees that appear to be in competition at best and more likely working at cross purposes - are in charge."

It's massive progofasciclimatard power grab, and when they're done with us, they'll set upon each other with chains and maces (https://tinyurl.com/bdzk8vex), Thunderdome style, for all the marbles.

We just gotta figger out how to make them do that before they do us.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 11:25 AM (MkuC5)

147 He should be stopping soon. Can't speak or read.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2022 11:25 AM (6/K6X)

148 experimental Ukrainian super-soldiers

Stalin's hybrid gorilla troops hardest hit.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at September 21, 2022 11:25 AM (bQfSd)

149 I may have respected her if she was good at lying, but she cannot even do that.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (VWp7G)

The ground work is already done. She doesn't have to do anything. Literally any sequence of sounds can come out of her face, and the people who need to say Yes will say Yes. The programming is complete.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:25 AM (6FeV1)

150 IrIrina Yarovaya, deputy chair of the State Duma, said the alleged experimentation is creating “cruel killing machines.”

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:25 AM (RHGPo)

151 Anchorbabe, just don’t say that Princess Beatrice is cute. Then you’ll really see pushback.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (GWMPj)

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Is that one of the horse toothed crotch fruit of Sarah Ferguson and Prince Andy?

Posted by: Zombie Norm McDonald at September 21, 2022 11:25 AM (flINI)

152 I personally don't think the power behind the throne try to include Biden in any decision making. They tell him after the decision.
But sometimes Biden runs his mouth anyway.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2022 11:26 AM (a1ycR)

153 Anchorbabe, just don’t say that Princess Beatrice is cute. Then you’ll really see pushback.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (GWMPj)

The princess has Daddario-like crazy eyes, in the embryonic stage.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 11:26 AM (ufFY8)

154 Russian Senator Konstantin Kosachev told the outlet that the blood of Ukrainian prisoners contained traces of pathogens he claimed were “atypical” for Ukraine.

Quick, get this in our press releases!

Posted by: Pfizer and Moderna at September 21, 2022 11:26 AM (ESjRY)

155 And Brandon just recently said COVID is over, which caused problems for the Student Loan Transference faction, because the claimed authority for such was the continuing COVID emergency.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 11:11 AM (yHsuS)

via wiki -- A national emergency is a situation in which a government is empowered to perform actions not normally permitted. The 1976 National Emergencies Act implemented various legal requirements regarding emergencies declared by the President of the United States.

As of April 2022, 79 emergencies have been declared; 37 have expired and another 42 are currently in effect, each having been renewed annually by the president.
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The covid ED is still in effect. Along with 41 other ones.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2022 11:26 AM (JOtiF)

156 "The problem is that any of those explanations - and numerous more besides - are all plausible because Biden is very clearly not in charge of anything."

and Biden probably gives approval to any that ? suck up most, or that represent the biggest graft machines ... so Iran wants some weapons, they are paid up on the graft machine OK, leave the weapons. China wants a military stand down, OK, China is top graft machine, they get what they want. Oligarchs want proxy war with Russia, oligarchs are graft machines in good standing, no problema.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2022 11:26 AM (Cus5s)

157 Zod has control of the gorilla bath salt army.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2022 11:27 AM (W/9Bb)

158 151 She is Andrew and Sarah’s daughter, yes.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2022 11:27 AM (GWMPj)

159 Respectfully disagree, that was then -- this is now. He campaigned from his basement and couldn't draw flies at public gatherings, but with the MSM-MDM cover and corruption (like stealing a national election in broad daylight) ... why wouldn't they just keep him chained to the basement radiator? ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 21, 2022 11:21 AM (aFfQD)
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He's still the President. You've come to terms with this reality, as have I, but in the broader scope of normal people looking around with bewilderment and wondering what's going on, they have legacy expectations about how the world works and how the systems work and a key component of that is that the President is the leader and interacts with the public. That farce *must* be maintained or the normal-type LIVs will start asking a lot of very uncomfortable questions and noticing things that they had *not* noticed prior. Could the deep state overcome that? Probably, but they'd rather not find out. Things like elections and presidents are extremely useful fictions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2022 11:27 AM (t0OGg)

160 It matters only when Joe is speaking ex-catheter.

For those of you with limited vocabularies, this means speaking extraterrestrially.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 11:27 AM (ayzS/)

161 "Stalin's hybrid gorilla troops hardest hit."

As a kid when hearing reports of "guerillas" I actually thought some countries were parachuting trained killer-gorillas into war zones. Thought that was pretty cool.

Posted by: Zek at September 21, 2022 11:27 AM (OzNIz)

162 America doesn't have a President anymore. Not for a long time. We have a deep state running things, and a guy who pretends to be President.

Even under Trump. None of the multitudinous three- and four-letter agencies were *ever* ours. They do whatever they want with zero cares for who sits in the Oval Office. It always irks me when people say, regarding the endless persecution of Trump since 2016, "When we win the presidency and control Congress again, we need to go after them the same way!"

With what agencies? With what Big Tech? With what MFM?

LITERALLY WITH WHAT? Even when our ersatz *guys* are (BIG scare quotes here) "in power", they aren't. At all. The enemy owns all the weapons, no matter who we call President.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 11:28 AM (M9XmQ)

163 He said "The US is champying..."

Posted by: Gref at September 21, 2022 11:28 AM (AMIL/)

164 Hey, remember when that German politician said everyone would remember where they were on September 24th?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are

Barbarosa II: Nuclear Bugaloo?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:28 AM (FVME7)

165 You know, as much as I couldn't believe that Donald Trump was President, for good reasons, I cannot believe this vicious meat puppet was installed and is our President.

Unbeliveable.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 11:28 AM (Xm7Q9)

166 160 It matters only when Joe is speaking ex-catheter.

For those of you with limited vocabularies, this means speaking extraterrestrially.
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Snort.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 21, 2022 11:28 AM (8Sqzu)

167 It matters only when Joe is speaking ex-catheter.
Posted by: DR! Jill Biden at September 21, 2022 11:23 AM (DvTYk)

Ok, I LOLed.

Nothing like an unexpected Cathaholic joke.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 21, 2022 11:28 AM (ufFY8)

168 Joe is stealing my mind thoughts!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM

Has he actually said Prometheus or Covenant yet?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2022 11:28 AM (a3Q+t)

169 168 Joe is stealing my mind thoughts!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:12 AM

Has he actually said Prometheus or Covenant yet?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2022 11:28 AM (a3Q+t)

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He might have considered it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

170 She’s looks to me like a talking doll’s head. Kind of like a Teddy Ruxpin, but you never know what she’s going to say or what she meant to say.
Posted by: Advo at September 21, 2022

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Pull the ring on her back to see what she'll say this time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 11:29 AM (c6xtn)

171 Biden is spouting a lot of climate change bullshit. Its the only issue where he can claim accomplishment because accomplishment is only measured by how much money you waste.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:30 AM (Y5qcH)

172 Compare this with federal judges finding tweets by private citizen Trump as binding on President Trump, in declaring his travel ban was motivated by racism and illegal.

But here, the actual words of the President--repeated several times!--are fluff, hypotheticals and non-binding.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 21, 2022 11:30 AM (Zf0+a)

173 Letitia James is at it again, with an announcement coming in a live news conference at 11:30, that the walls are closing in on Trump.

That's her news.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:30 AM (PUXju)

174 Fixing the 60 minutes interview??

Pelly slobbering all over him. They weren't going to cut those responses out. What would the interview have been without it? X pron instead of R pron..

60 mins needed to be seen serving the WH need of Biden in charge ahead of his speech today. Biden "Corn Poppin'" personality Jack.

Even he knows hes not running in 2024. Thats the scary part. Thats why the speech in Philly. .

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 21, 2022 11:30 AM (XLMS3)

175 @162

>>LITERALLY WITH WHAT?

As has been said, Republicans hold office, Democrats hold power.

We ain't voting our way out of our predicament.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 11:30 AM (Xm7Q9)

176 wheels are turning...

there is a lack of cohesion at the top. It will get worse. How it shakes out, only the Almighty knows.
Posted by: this thing will get out of control, it will get out of control and we will be lucky if we live throu at September 21, 2022 11:22 AM (6b5eW)
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I suspect a split between the Dr Jill faction, Kline, and Harris. They are surrounded with a few brains and a lot of "advisors" who are more interested in flashing their White House badges than doing any real work. The Departments are having to work with each group, or select one and go with that choice.
Yeah. The life in the Beltway is fu*ked up.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2022 11:30 AM (anj39)

177 I'd like to know how the administration plans to "walk back" an executive order numbnuts makes public... like a declaration of war. Which he's come close to doing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

They'll just say "Nah, bro" like they did whenever Trump literally ordered the Pentagon to do anything.

"Yeah, we'll look into that, boss."

:sotto voce: "Yeah, GFY."

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 11:31 AM (M9XmQ)

178

Back in the dark ages mad magazine head an article about headlines as envisioned by kids.

One of them was " guerrillas attack a cost the plane of jars " featuring of course, gorillas running across a bunch of mason jars...

Posted by: Lance Hardthrust at September 21, 2022 11:31 AM (khluH)

179 Zod has control of the gorilla bath salt army.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2022 11:27 AM

In all fairness, Zod has had a lot on his plate lately.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 11:31 AM (4p7Em)

180 KJP looks like a lying sack of maggot squeezings to me. Incapable of admitting a fact. A subject of Satan.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 21, 2022 11:31 AM (QSjkU)

181

Fucking Autocucumber...

Posted by: Lance Hardthrust at September 21, 2022 11:32 AM (khluH)

182 I made a mistake on my post about the cost of the migrant flight to the Vineysrd
I was off by one decimal Ace. I just was unable to accept the truth. I said that the cost per person was $1230
But in fact the cost was 12300 dollars per person to fly migrants from TX to FL and then onto Martha's Vineyard. The 2 jets cost 615000 dollars. Of course one must suspect a kickback to gov Ron a grifter just like Trump
They were so put up at a nice hotel fed and given McDs gift certificate.
A class action suit has been opened in Boston Federal Court. Hope it goes to trial!!

Posted by: Paul at September 21, 2022 11:32 AM (Pww3C)

183 I always enjoy when the “White House” corrects the clear statements of the unitary executive.

Posted by: Squid at September 21, 2022 11:32 AM (efeY/)

184 Anchorbabe, just don’t say that Princess Beatrice is cute. Then you’ll really see pushback.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Beats the hell out of Princess Sparkle.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:32 AM (FVME7)

185 >>Biden is spouting a lot of climate change bullshit. Its the only issue where he can claim accomplishment because accomplishment is only measured by how much money you waste.

It has long been the tool globalists have used to erase borders and nationalism and turn is into one giant globalist union. Fixing the climate, as if that was even possible, has never been a goal, it is a tool to take money and power from the west and transfer it to the developing world.

Socialism doesn't raise all boats, it can only succeed by lowering the standards of the wealthy countries.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2022 11:32 AM (ZLI7S)

186 @3 I'd like to know how the administration plans to "walk back" an executive order numbnuts makes public... like a declaration of war. Which he's come close to doing.

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An actual, formal Declaration of War must be submitted to Congress. It's not something that the President can do on his own.

Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (PTw5h)

187 Letitia James suing Trump. Again. And again.

This time, she's also suing his kids. This woman is literally insane.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (PUXju)

188 I imagine Senile Hitler is so vain that he's super proud of the fact he knows secrets and can't help blurting then ou.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (eGTCV)

189 You know, as much as I couldn't believe that Donald Trump was President, for good reasons, I cannot believe this vicious meat puppet was installed and is our President.

Unbeliveable.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 11:28 AM (Xm7Q9)

In regard to Democrat Presidents or nominees, since Bill Clinton I wrongly asserted the Dems could never nominate an even worse President candidate in the future.

You got Clinton > Gore > Kerry > Obama > Clinton > Biden. They keep dividing by 2.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (XT8yI)

190 Ok, now I'm convinced.

"Paul" is just ace effing with us.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (6FeV1)

191 180 KJP looks like a lying sack of maggot squeezings to me. Incapable of admitting a fact. A subject of Satan.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 21, 2022 11:31 AM (QSjkU)

hard to argue with this

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (us2H3)

192 >>>Dolph Lundgren Hardest Hit.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I was told Russia has a Winter Soldier.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (VWp7G)

193 BREAKING: Atlanta Fed Announces Negative 3rd Quarter Growth for THIRD QUARTER IN ROW!

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (RHGPo)

194 "But in fact the cost was 12300 dollars per person to fly migrants from TX to FL"

If true that's a factor of several times less the cost of social services for a year, not to mention intangible social costs such as crowding and crime.

Posted by: Zek at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (OzNIz)

195 Letitia James is at it again, with an announcement coming in a live news conference at 11:30, that the walls are closing in on Trump.
___________

She needs to investigate Gov. Hochul and the COVID testing overpricing scandal.

But she won't because she's part of the same criminal organization.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (lf83v)

196 193 BREAKING: Atlanta Fed Announces Negative 3rd Quarter Growth for THIRD QUARTER IN ROW!
Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (RHGPo)

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Oh, and just 4 weeks ago they totally believed that there would be 2% growth. They really, honestly believed it!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (LvTSG)

197 Welcome to Biden-recession Summer

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (RHGPo)

198 85
'...will not stop ever until you are dead.'

or they are.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (a1ycR)

199
Joe Mannix reminds me of the point that I failed to make in my morning post:

While all of these gaffes are being walked back, the incitement to violence and blood-libeiing of political enemies are NOT being walked back.

And Joey doubled down yet again and with tragic results. Yet again.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (x0n13)

200 BREAKING: Atlanta Fed Announces Negative 3rd Quarter Growth for THIRD QUARTER IN ROW!
Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (RHGPo)
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Means nothing.

Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (PUXju)

201 Hope it goes to trial!!

Good luck getting it across the threshold considering they signed waivers, fuktard.

Posted by: Squid at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (efeY/)

202 Still hoping whoever is in charge of scrolling the prompter let's it go fast enough to really out-hustle-jog Joey and his chemically smooth brained intellect.

Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (3byMq)

203 Red Wave status: hanging by a thread

Rasmussen: 46% approve
Politico: 46% approve
YouGov: 45% Approve

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (3vQN0)

204 Solution ... roll out https://bit.ly/This-Guy-Instead.

Posted by: Marooned at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (w6hJ9)

205 Excuse me ...

Welcome to Biden-recession Summer I

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (RHGPo)

206 5 Covid is over and never over at the same time

eastasia has always been at war with covid

Posted by: the big guy is watching you at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (v3pYe)

207 Socialism doesn't raise all boats, it can only succeed by lowering the standards of the wealthy countries.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2022 11:32 AM (ZLI7S)

It distributes misery to the masses equally.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (XT8yI)

208 BREAKING: Atlanta Fed Announces Negative 3rd Quarter Growth for THIRD QUARTER IN ROW!
Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM

Unexpectedly!

"But we're still not in a recession!"
- The "Plugs" Administration

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (4p7Em)

209 But she won't because she's part of the same criminal organization.
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Cleptocracy.

Its the running theme behind the Fargo Series. That and if good men do nothing evil wins.

Posted by: this thing will get out of control, it will get out of control and we will be lucky if we live throu at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (CJP+K)

210 Letitia James suing Trump. Again. And again.

This time, she's also suing his kids. This woman is literally insane.
________

She must be behind in the polls.

REEEEEEE! TRUMP!!! REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (lf83v)

211 In regard to Democrat Presidents or nominees, since Bill Clinton I wrongly asserted the Dems could never nominate an even worse President candidate in the future.

You got Clinton > Gore > Kerry > Obama > Clinton > Biden. They keep dividing by 2.
Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (XT8yI)

They had worse candidates before Bill Clinton. He's one of the less bad ones tbh.

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (VPWcH)

212 While all of these gaffes are being walked back, the incitement to violence and blood-libeiing of political enemies are NOT being walked back.

And Joey doubled down yet again and with tragic results. Yet again.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (x0n13)
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Excellent point. The Junta factions all seem to agree on that amazing rhetoric.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (PUXju)

213 203 Red Wave status: hanging by a thread

Rasmussen: 46% approve
Politico: 46% approve
YouGov: 45% Approve

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (3vQN0)

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I thought it was already gone and we were getting a blue wave instead.

Also, has there been any analysis done that shows a correlation between presidential approval and Congressional elections in midterms?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

214 "She does really need to lose the "Hair by Cabbage Patch" look."

it perfectly represents the her wackadoodle persona.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (Cus5s)

215 BREAKING: Atlanta Fed Announces Negative 3rd Quarter Growth for THIRD QUARTER IN ROW!
Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:33 AM (RHGPo)
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Means nothing.
Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (PUXju)

up an inch

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (AwYPR)

216 170 She’s looks to me like a talking doll’s head. Kind of like a Teddy Ruxpin, but you never know what she’s going to say or what she meant to say.
Posted by: Advo at September 21, 2022

***
Pull the ring on her back to see what she'll say this time.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 11:29 AM (c6xtn)
________

My name is Talking Karine, and I don't think I like you.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (TgBWG)

217 Ed has taken over the issuing of 'hmmmm"s on HA after the departure of the cocksucker

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (us2H3)

218 * lets not lettuce

Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (3byMq)

219 193 BREAKING: Atlanta Fed Announces Negative 3rd Quarter Growth for THIRD QUARTER IN ROW!
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They should be thrown in NANZIs dungeon. This is heresy.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (8Sqzu)

220 I can't listen to this fool anymore. Any country that would make him their face to the world is doomed.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (Y5qcH)

221 218 * lets not lettuce
Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (3byMq)

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What's your problem with lettuce?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (LvTSG)

222 With all the graft bucks going to the UN, you would think the grifters could throw in a few bucks each and get rid of that restroom stall tile behind the podium.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (lz5hY)

223 Socialism doesn't raise all boats, it can only succeed by lowering the standards
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Comrade. Drain the lake. It is the only way to make it fair to those who do not have boats.

Posted by: this thing will get out of control, it will get out of control and we will be lucky if we live throu at September 21, 2022 11:37 AM (CJP+K)

224 Socialism doesn't raise all boats, it can only succeed by lowering the standards of the wealthy countries.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2022 11:32 AM (ZLI7S)

It distributes misery to the masses equally.

You might think so, but no.

Posted by: Members of the Politburo and Party Central Committees, from their dachas at September 21, 2022 11:37 AM (ayzS/)

225 192 >>>Dolph Lundgren Hardest Hit.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I was told Russia has a Winter Soldier.

well, there's general frost

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 21, 2022 11:37 AM (v3pYe)

226 And virtually nobody, not even on our side, outside a few obscure blogs on Substack, will even mention WestExec.

We all just keep asking -- and by we I mean every blog I read and every single (R) in Congress -- "Who's really in charge?"

There isn't a baseball bat engraved "WESTEXEC" big enough to print The Answer To That Question upside our heads.

The actual elephant in the room. "What elephant? I don't need any elephant. Hurr durr."

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 11:37 AM (M9XmQ)

227 Missed everything else cutting the yard but made it in time for the Mannix Report. It's a first.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 11:37 AM (z/NLz)

228 This speech is tedious. Just cliche after cliche.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2022 11:38 AM (ZLI7S)

229 184 Anchorbabe, just don’t say that Princess Beatrice is cute. Then you’ll really see pushback.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Beats the hell out of Princess Sparkle.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:32 AM (FVME7)

Zara Tindall is the pick of Elizabeth's grand-daughters today. A bit old - 40 or so - but nobody's perfect. Incredibly, she is Princess Anne's daughter. Lady Louise, Prince Edward's daughter, at 18, looks better now than Andrew's daughters ever did. YMMV

Posted by: Gref at September 21, 2022 11:38 AM (AMIL/)

230 Doesn't look like the Atlanta fed estimate is negative presently. It's at 0.3%.

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 11:39 AM (VPWcH)

231 Meme of the day:

https://nitter.it/PapiTrumpo/status/1572594826591223808

Posted by: Biden's Dog at September 21, 2022 11:39 AM (rAUIJ)

232 Did anyone figure out what happened to the flight of illegals to Delaware yesterday or was that just a rumor?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2022 11:23 AM (ZLI7S)
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Lefties say DeSantis sent an empty plane to provoke a panicked reaction at the White House.

If so, mark that one down as a success.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:39 AM (PUXju)

233 199
Joe Mannix reminds me of the point that I failed to make in my morning post:

While all of these gaffes are being walked back, the incitement to violence and blood-libeiing of political enemies are NOT being walked back.

And Joey doubled down yet again and with tragic results. Yet again.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2022 11:34 AM (x0n13)
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Not tragic in their minds. It's what they want.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2022 11:39 AM (TgBWG)

234 TJM, fixing my let's

Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (3byMq)

235 214 "She does really need to lose the "Hair by Cabbage Patch" look."

it perfectly represents the her wackadoodle persona.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (Cus5s)

Um... "Hair by Fuller Brush, makeup by ColourPop Cosmetics look"

Sorry, its just what I see.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (MkuC5)

236 What's your problem with lettuce?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM

Head case?

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (GwxCX)

237 Sarah Palin used targets in a campaign advertisement. Joe calls for attacks against political opposition. Guess which one got the media freaking out.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (eGTCV)

238 Biden's meth is running out at the UN.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (yQpMk)

239 >They had worse candidates before Bill Clinton. He's one of the less bad ones tbh.

Posted by: Someguy's

in retrospect, yes- he was just a liar and a cad
I'd take that today over what we have now

Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (geLO8)

240 Paul violated one of the cardinal rules of this blog: NO MATH.

Also, I know airline prices have skyrocketed, but $12,000 per person to fly from FL to MV?

Sounds a bit excessive. Were they all sitting in first class sipping champagne and eating caviar during that flight?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (YIVH2)

241 If so, mark that one down as a success.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:39 AM (PUXju)

Next one should be a flight of school kids on a tour of DC. Let them block it or meet it with the NG.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (Y5qcH)

242 I'm starting to think this Biden fellow is not quite as impressive as he tells us he is.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (LaNzR)

243 Also, has there been any analysis done that shows a correlation between presidential approval and Congressional elections in midterms?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

Of course not.. Dave in FL. will tell you Rasmussen is garbage

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (bs+z0)

244 Has ShitBrains threatens to nuke Russia yet?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (mE7cY)

245 Head case?
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (GwxCX)

"On the iceberger's spectrum"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (6FeV1)

246 Beware the Ides of September!

Posted by: Some German Politician at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (Xrfse)

247 Biden is spouting a lot of climate change bullshit. Its the only issue where he can claim accomplishment because accomplishment is only measured by how much money you waste.

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Average global temperature hasn't risen one degree since Biden ascended to throne!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (FVME7)

248 240 Sounds a bit excessive. Were they all sitting in first class sipping champagne and eating caviar during that flight?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (YIVH2)

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Probably back of the envelope math about the cost of chartering the plane per person. That'd be my guess.

It's not like DeSantis doesn't have the money, though. FL Democrats voted to give him $12 million to do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

249 White House Reportedly Frustrated Over How Fox News’ Bill Melugin Is Reporting On Border Crisis

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (RHGPo)

250 Pedo Joe may fall down soon. He's grinding to a halt trying to read the prompter. "Full Stop".

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 11:42 AM (yQpMk)

251 " Atlanta's GDPNow model, the US economy is expected to grow at an annualized rate of 1.4% in the third quarter, down from 2.6% in the previous estimate."

that is what I'm seeing, not negative ... quarter is not over yet.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2022 11:42 AM (Cus5s)

252 238 Biden's meth is running out at the UN.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (yQpMk)

He's "speaking. " ?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:42 AM (bs+z0)

253 Most folks that work for the government at all levels are underachieving, lazy, incompetent, witless nincompoops whose only goal is to do as little as possible between pay periods while moaning about all the work they have to do.

This alone should explain the layabouts currently "working" in the white house.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2022 11:42 AM (YScEb)

254 It matters only when Joe is speaking ex-catheter.

For those of you with limited vocabularies, this means speaking extraterrestrially.
Posted by: Archimedes

Yes - speaking off the cusp, as it were.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 11:42 AM (LsEU/)

255 With all the graft bucks going to the UN, you would think the grifters could throw in a few bucks each and get rid of that restroom stall tile behind the podium.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 11:36 AM (lz5hY)
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They need that restroom stall tile to cover the glory hole...Whoops! I've said too much...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 11:43 AM (YIVH2)

256 I thought it was already gone and we were getting a blue wave instead.

Also, has there been any analysis done that shows a correlation between presidential approval and Congressional elections in midterms?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
-----------------------------
Yes there has been. Part of the issue though is that to maintain any ability to use past elections, one has to choose which poll or group of polls to use. The old standard used to be Gallup, not these other media polls like Rassmussen, YouGov, etc. as their track record is far too short to be of use in a time series study.

Generally, it is believed that a President will lose seats in Congress below 48 percent approval with each point below that indicating more problems. Senate and gubernatorial races are always more idiosyncratic than House and other state elections where party tends to matter more than candidate quality.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:43 AM (CXr4y)

257 They had worse candidates before Bill Clinton. He's one of the less bad ones tbh.
Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (VPWcH)

In regard to what was known at the time he was the worst candidate. No previous candidate could have been a draft dodging , adulterous, USSR visiting , America protesting , lying dope smoker.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:43 AM (XT8yI)

258 White House Reportedly Frustrated Over How Fox News’ Bill Melugin Is Reporting On Border Crisis
Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (RHGPo)
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He keeps turning on his camera

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:43 AM (PUXju)

259 Biden has black eyes, lifeless eyes, like a doll's eyes..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 11:43 AM (yQpMk)

260 You have to figure Joe's tolerance to the cocktail is starting to get to Keith Richards level.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 11:44 AM (5r4XQ)

261 Sarah Palin used targets in a campaign advertisement. Joe calls for attacks against political opposition. Guess which one got the media freaking out.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 11:40 AM (eGTCV)

Excellent point. And it underlines my point that the American people are nothing more than trained circus animals doing whatever the media tells them to do.

Barking seals and nothing more.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 21, 2022 11:44 AM (FXeY0)

262 Have any neverTrumpers apologized for endorsing this shambles of a failed disaster of a human being?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 11:44 AM (eGTCV)

263 there will not be much of a red wave in the house

maybe 20-30 seats, cuz half of the red wave happened in 2020 when the GOP took like 14 seats

which seems odd when a dim prezzy gets 81 million votes

the red wave will be in the senate

53-47 maybe 54-46

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 11:44 AM (us2H3)

264 He keeps turning on his camera
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2022 11:43 AM (PUXju)

He's the only media there.. The rest of the media is MIA or standing at the small Delaware airport waiting for Death Santis kidnapers plane to arrive.

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:44 AM (bs+z0)

265 She does really need to lose the "Hair by Cabbage Patch" look.

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Buckwheat reincarnated as a tranny.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:45 AM (FVME7)

266 257 They had worse candidates before Bill Clinton. He's one of the less bad ones tbh.
Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 11:35 AM (VPWcH)

In regard to what was known at the time he was the worst candidate. No previous candidate could have been a draft dodging , adulterous, USSR visiting , America protesting , lying dope smoker.
Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:43 AM (XT8yI)

McGovern and Carter were pretty bad. I suppose Johnson wasn't treasonous.

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 11:45 AM (VPWcH)

267 It matters only when Joe is speaking ex-catheter.
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Ex-diaper speech is the worst.

Posted by: Vatican Janitorial Service at September 21, 2022 11:45 AM (PUXju)

268 BREAKING: Atlanta Fed Announces Negative 3rd Quarter Growth for THIRD QUARTER IN ROW!

With nine days left to go? I find their lack of faith... disturbing.

Step back nonbelievers
Or the rain will never come
Someone keep that fire a-burnin'
Somebody beat the drum

Posted by: Oddbob at September 21, 2022 11:45 AM (nfrXX)

269 256 Generally, it is believed that a President will lose seats in Congress below 48 percent approval with each point below that indicating more problems. Senate and gubernatorial races are always more idiosyncratic than House and other state elections where party tends to matter more than candidate quality.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:43 AM (CXr4y)

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So, the current assumption is that the Gallup polls' performance on presidential approval gets grafted onto the performance of media polls asking the same thing without those media polls having the track record that Gallup had demonstrated?

And Gallup stopped doing presidential approvals a few years ago? Replaced by media polls?

How do we know if any of these polls are right? What's the real world metric we run them up against to see if they're even close to right? With election polls, we have elections. With presidential approval polls?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:45 AM (LvTSG)

270 The two faction argument is well put but there is the possibility that there is one small, ultimate controller group and the whipsaw affect creating instability throughout the general population is intentional.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 11:45 AM (z/NLz)

271 Latest estimate: 0.3 percent — September 20, 2022

https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:46 AM (Y5qcH)

272 249 White House Reportedly Frustrated Over How Fox News’ Bill Melugin Is Reporting On Border Crisis

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM (RHGPo)

I predict Melugin will soon be unhappily talking with the IRS quite a lot. Probably FBI agents, too, trying to get him to lie to them.

Posted by: Gref at September 21, 2022 11:46 AM (AMIL/)

273 Remember how hard it was to listen to JPII? And yet the man was an intellectual and rhetorical powerhouse up to his last day on earth. And he took all kinds of grief and mockery for it.

This fucking dolt of a vegetable is both unintelligible, AND he is saying nothing of importance or sense on top.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:46 AM (6FeV1)

274 "On the iceberger's spectrum"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:41 AM

Well done. People just won't leaf it alone.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2022 11:46 AM (GwxCX)

275 They should just take the cost of the charter and divide by 50. Of course they probably added on bullshit to make it look worse, unless the charter cost 625k.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:46 AM (XT8yI)

276 Ex-diaper speech is the worst.
Posted by: Vatican Janitorial Service at September 21, 2022 11:45 AM (PUXju)

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Jerry "Nads" Nadler at September 21, 2022 11:46 AM (MkuC5)

277 Its called SAY ANYTHING. and that is called LYING.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at September 21, 2022 11:46 AM (buTO7)

278 What are the actual 'legal' challenges here Letitia?

Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 11:46 AM (3byMq)

279 Ya know that things have gone completely down the crapper when people start missin' me. Heh.

Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at September 21, 2022 11:47 AM (Xrfse)

280 Montana is going to have 2 trannies in its state legislature. No place is safe anymore, the insanity has spread like a cancer nationwide.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 11:47 AM (3vQN0)

281
Fractured command structure, cont'd - this writers point was that none of these different parts of the Russian command structure are even talking to each other, much less sharing supplies or resources with each other.
Posted by: Tom Servo

So the Japanese IJN vs IJA during WWII. That fits, although the modern Russian example is worse because Russian commanders are really only skilled at skimming their training/procurement budgets to buy dachas, premium vodka, strippers and miniature giraffes. At least a good portion of the Jap commanders had some tactical skill and didn't steal their commands blind.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 21, 2022 11:47 AM (n+4am)

282 off vile-diaper sock

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 11:48 AM (MkuC5)

283 It matters only when Joe is speaking ex-catheter.
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Ex-diaper speech is the worst.
Posted by: Vatican Janitorial Service at September 21, 2022 11:45 AM (PUXju)

When Joe speaks ex-catheter, his words are infantile and should be obeyed.

Posted by: Rainbow Feelgood Church Of Sodomy, On The Frontage Road at September 21, 2022 11:48 AM (YScEb)

284 "Atlanta Fed's 2nd-Quarter GDP Growth Estimate Is Now Minus-2.1 Percent"

OK, now I see it. But it is still an estimate.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2022 11:48 AM (Cus5s)

285 I think that Biden was 'inviting' Putin to invade Ukraine because the retards running the administration didn't actually think he'd do it, and that they'd get to spike the football about 'Putin backing down'.

Of course the dumbfucks were catastrophically wrong, as usual.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at September 21, 2022 11:48 AM (setIA)

286 270 The two faction argument is well put but there is the possibility that there is one small, ultimate controller group and the whipsaw affect creating instability throughout the general population is intentional.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 11:45 AM (z/NLz)

There are more than two factions, and a number are outside the government. But the foreign policy stuff is mostly the State Department and Pentagon butting heads. Disney and Facebook don't care about Afghanistan, but they do care about Covid's impact on them.

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 11:48 AM (VPWcH)

287 "Covid is a circle

Posted by: J. Frank Parnel:''

More like an infinity mirror with reflections going on forever to infinity. It will never end.

Posted by: Ripley at September 21, 2022 11:48 AM (MxEKc)

288 This would be a terrible thing to suggest.

www.arkhaven.com/comics/action/the-awakener

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 11:48 AM (M9XmQ)

289 OK, now I see it. But it is still an estimate.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2022 11:48 AM (Cus5s)

That's right.. There's still time to cook the books

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:49 AM (bs+z0)

290 Montana is going to have 2 trannies in its state legislature. No place is safe anymore, the insanity has spread like a cancer nationwide.

Funny how things change - not that many years ago referring to a trannie was a conversation you had with your auto mechanic.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 21, 2022 11:49 AM (FXeY0)

291 Canadian high school says it is ILLEGAL to criticize trans teacher with huge prosthetic breasts as it's claimed 'disturbed' students are skipping her classes

.. Canada is really screwed up

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

292 So Biden told the UN that Russia won't win a Nuke war.

Uh, dipshit. No one wins a nuclear war.

Everyone loses. Everything.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2022 11:49 AM (mE7cY)

293 Speaking of KJP . . .

WH @PressSec says Biden didn't actually mean the Covid pandemic is over despite saying it: "Just to step back for a second, when he made those comments, he was walking through the Detroit car show, the halls of the Detroit car show, he was looking around."

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So he was distracted by something shiny?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:49 AM (FVME7)

294 And Brandon just recently said COVID is over, which caused problems for the Student Loan Transference faction, because the claimed authority for such was the continuing COVID emergency.

Is it possible that this is Joe's "out" to deal with the backlash from this massive intergenerational wealth transfer?

"Forgiving" debts that were not his to forgive ended up causing lots of strife and disunity. If the junta can now backtrack from the gift to young white collar workers and blame it on Joe conquering Covid, then it is a win/win for the junta.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 11:50 AM (3hSHB)

295 Hey, it's film noir on TCM. Good taste in clothes, good looking cars that are hard to drive and will kill you in a wreck.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 11:50 AM (lz5hY)

296 Powerline points out Biden himself is not President. He isn't coherent, for one thing, and he's a petty, vindictive nutcase.

Look at his completely nonsensical response to a simple question "why is the border overwhelmed under your policies?"

Because there are three countries that are -- never have -- there are fewer -- fewer immigrants coming from Central America and from Mexico. This is a totally different circumstance.

What's on my watch now is Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua. And the ability to send them back to those states is not rational. You could send them back and have them -- we're working with Mexico and other countries to see if we can stop the flow. But that's the difference.

Posted by: Vatican Janitorial Service at September 21, 2022 11:50 AM (PUXju)

297 You know one thing that becomes clearer and clearer as I get older? Everyone falls into a type. And it can get pretty specific. Obama is the pretentious jackass who thought he was FAR smarter than he actually was. Trump is the boisterous, garrulous guy who... can be naïve about other people's motives. Biden is the worst of the three. He is the guy who does the least. Brags about all the women in the office/plant/company he has banged (and runs them down, but the minute one shows up he tries to turn on the oily charm.) Mean spirited and petty. Vicious, except to superiors, but will turn on them in a heartbeat.

Everyone you meet is someone you have met before.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 11:50 AM (5r4XQ)

298 No. The current GDPNow estimate is 0.3. It is down form the high estimate of 2.4. The current estimate is not -2.1.

Reporters are dumb and screw everything up.

https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:51 AM (Y5qcH)

299 292 Not gonna say we won't get our hair mussed.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 11:51 AM (lz5hY)

300 There is a dividing line where bigger is better (even well done fakes) but there is a hard line beyond which they become repulsive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 11:51 AM (5r4XQ)

301 298 No. The current GDPNow estimate is 0.3. It is down form the high estimate of 2.4. The current estimate is not -2.1.

Reporters are dumb and screw everything up.

https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:51 AM (Y5qcH)

========

Gateway Pundit reported something inaccurate? Quelle surprise...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

302 Hey, it's film noir on TCM. Good taste in clothes, good looking cars that are hard to drive and will kill you in a wreck.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022

***
Why were they hard to drive? Big and smooth, comfortable, with a steering wheel that . . .

. . . well, okay.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 11:51 AM (c6xtn)

303
How do we know if any of these polls are right? What's the real world metric we run them up against to see if they're even close to right? With election polls, we have elections. With presidential approval polls?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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Gallup stopped doing candidate/political polling but still does Presidential Approval. They have him at 42 percent on day 604 of his presidency which was six days ago.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:52 AM (CXr4y)

304 299 292 Not gonna say we won't get our hair mussed.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 11:51 AM (lz5hY)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 11:52 AM (5r4XQ)

305 Remember, long before he was senile, Joe was an idiot and a liar. You have never been able to take him at his word. The only thing different now is that people think they should be able to take him at his word.

Posted by: Wally at September 21, 2022 11:52 AM (FJYfm)

306 I hate to say it... a nuclear exchange WOULD change the game...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 11:52 AM (5r4XQ)

307 Because there are three countries that are -- never have -- there are fewer -- fewer immigrants coming from Central America and from Mexico. This is a totally different circumstance.

What's on my watch now is Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua. And the ability to send them back to those states is not rational. You could send them back and have them -- we're working with Mexico and other countries to see if we can stop the flow. But that's the difference.

Gibberish Johnson is right!

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (ayzS/)

308 Well done. People just won't leaf it alone.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2022 11:46 AM (GwxCX)

That should have romained unsaid.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (7bRMQ)

309 303 Gallup stopped doing candidate/political polling but still does Presidential Approval. They have him at 42 percent on day 604 of his presidency which was six days ago.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:52 AM (CXr4y)

=========

The only reason to take Gallup's seriously is its history. We've seen a lot of institutions fail on purpose over the past couple of decades.

How do we know Gallup's is right? Will we ever know if its right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (LvTSG)

310 Everyone you meet is someone you have met before.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022

***
And you begin to understand that stereotypes exist for a reason. They're true.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (c6xtn)

311 Montana is going to have 2 trannies in its state legislature. No place is safe anymore, the insanity has spread like a cancer nationwide.

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I remember when being crazy was a disqualification.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (FVME7)

312
Back in the dark ages mad magazine head an article about headlines as envisioned by kids.

One of them was " guerrillas attack a cost the plane of jars " featuring of course, gorillas running across a bunch of mason jars...
Posted by: Lance Hardthrust

I remembered that too. And here it is:
(click to second page)
https://tinyurl.com/2xzj7mcs

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (63Dwl)

313 305 Remember, long before he was senile, Joe was an idiot and a liar. You have never been able to take him at his word. The only thing different now is that people think they should be able to take him at his word.
Posted by: Wally at September 21, 2022 11:52 AM (FJYfm)

This. People show you who they are- and he NEVER hid it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (5r4XQ)

314 292 So Biden told the UN that Russia won't win a Nuke war.

Uh, dipshit. No one wins a nuclear war.

*cough*

Posted by: cockroaches at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (v3pYe)

315 The real metric on the polls is; Are we going to beat the cheat? Are we going to have tough lawyers and poll watchers in Philly, and the other notorious cheat spots or we going to leave it up to hapless locals?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (z/NLz)

316 So Biden told the UN that Russia won't win a Nuke war.

Uh, dipshit. No one wins a nuclear war.

Everyone loses. Everything.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2022 11:49 AM

The only way to win is not to play.

Posted by: Joshua at September 21, 2022 11:53 AM (4p7Em)

317 So Biden told the UN that Russia won't win a Nuke war.
Uh, dipshit. No one wins a nuclear war.
Everyone loses. Everything.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

do it. we dare you.
- cockroaches everywhere

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (3CCua)

318 Gateway Pundit reported something inaccurate? Quelle surprise...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

It will probably be negative in the next update on 9/27. They have been slashing it pretty hard lately.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (Y5qcH)

319 317 do it. we dare you.
- cockroaches everywhere
Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (3CCua)

========

The Twinkie Brigades are ready for duty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (LvTSG)

320 They had worse candidates before Bill Clinton.

Wilson and FDR come to mind.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (3hSHB)

321 there is the possibility that there is one small, ultimate controller group and the whipsaw affect creating instability throughout the general population is intentional.
==
incompetence and disarray could be staged. However, he's managed a significantly long running program of deceit, if he's secretly faking it. More likely, he's a mess, the people around him aren't super competent mentats able to calculate and control events. That doesn't mean the people around him don't think of themselves as super competent mentats able to predict and control events.

The end result is a giant clusterfark, whether they intend that or not.

Posted by: this thing will get out of control, it will get out of control and we will be lucky if we live throu at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (TMSLF)

322 Uh, dipshit. No one wins a nuclear war.

*cough*
Posted by: cockroaches at September 21, 2022

***
Being in a microwave won't even kill you guys

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (c6xtn)

323 It's possible that the worst possible President ever is in place at the worst possible time in the world's history.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (mE7cY)

324 318 Gateway Pundit reported something inaccurate? Quelle surprise...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

It will probably be negative in the next update on 9/27. They have been slashing it pretty hard lately.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (Y5qcH)

========

It's a safe assumption, but Gateway Pundit reported that the Atlanta Fed was estimating -2.1%, which is not the case.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

325 Montana is going to have 2 trannies in its state legislature. No place is safe anymore, the insanity has spread like a cancer nationwide.

I assume their districts are the college towns.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (XT8yI)

326 WTF ? The guy who ran over and killed that teenager because he was a Conservative, has been released on Bond...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (bs+z0)

327 there is the possibility that there is one small, ultimate controller group and the whipsaw affect creating instability throughout the general population is intentional.

Have I taught you people nothing?

Posted by: Occam at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (ayzS/)

328 if pollsters designed ICE vehicles

EVs would be a lot more popular

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (us2H3)

329 326 WTF ? The guy who ran over and killed that teenager because he was a Conservative, has been released on Bond...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (bs+z0)

=======

How much was the bond?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (LvTSG)

330 323 It's possible that the worst possible President ever is in place at the worst possible time in the world's history.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2022 11:54 AM (mE7cY)

Hey, it can happen.

Posted by: Nero, Commodus, Caracalla at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (5r4XQ)

331 Sounds like we're at the infighting stage of the coup.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (2HEY8)

332
Trump is the boisterous, garrulous guy who... can be naive about other people's motives.

____________

Trump is the blowhard guy at the bar who's annoying at first but when the fight breaks out will be in there for you with fists flying.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (v4INW)

333
326 WTF ? The guy who ran over and killed that teenager because he was a Conservative, has been released on Bond...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (bs+z0)

Tee hee!

Posted by: Georgie Soros at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (mE7cY)

334 The Twinkie Brigades are ready for duty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

i still have nightmares 40 years later after learning how to do radiological safety monitoring after a strike. once you learn that shit, it just won't go away.

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (3CCua)

335 Not gonna say we won't get our hair mussed.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door

The question is whether we'd get our hair moussed.

Posted by: Gavin Newsom, the Love Guv at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (FVME7)

336 Yes - speaking off the cusp, as it were.

*******

Exactly. When he is ad glibbing!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (cPDW+)

337 Montana is going to have 2 trannies in its state legislature. No place is safe anymore, the insanity has spread like a cancer nationwide

And Montana is being infiltrated by fleeing Californians if the show Living Big Sky is accurate.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (XT8yI)

338 How much was the bond?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (LvTSG)

50 thousand

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (bs+z0)

339
*cough*
Posted by: cockroaches at September 21, 2022

________

*cough*

Posted by: Cher at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (v4INW)

340
It's a safe assumption, but Gateway Pundit reported that the Atlanta Fed was estimating -2.1%, which is not the case.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

2.4 minus 2.1 is 0.3, that's minus 2.1% for the gdp estimate right?
-reporter and Horde licensed mathematician

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (VPWcH)

341 The only reason to take Gallup's seriously is its history. We've seen a lot of institutions fail on purpose over the past couple of decades.

How do we know Gallup's is right? Will we ever know if its right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Social scientists are used to working with bad data. The obvious way is to triangulate sources--include candidate race polling, mood of the country polling, and use some economic data as well as proxies. Internal campaign polling often focuses more on what topics to push and which harm the candidate except when the race get closer then it is which voters need to be mobilized to go to the polls. Often, in a midterm, it is the party base which is why the Biden junta is doing things with mixed messages. My guess is that the politicos are forcing issues like student loan forgiveness in order to mobilize young people who atypically do not like Biden much.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (CXr4y)

342 Montana is going to have 2 trannies in its state legislature. No place is safe anymore, the insanity has spread like a cancer nationwide.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 11:47 AM

*rethinks not having seen Montana*

Posted by: Zombie Vasily Borodin at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (4p7Em)

343 It's a safe assumption, but Gateway Pundit reported that the Atlanta Fed was estimating -2.1%, which is not the case.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

I have no faith in the news anymore. Even the "respectable" orgs get things wrong that could have been easily checked by anyone with an internet connection.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (Y5qcH)

344 _______

*cough*
Posted by: Cher at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (v4INW)

Plastic melts.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (mE7cY)

345 WTF ? The guy who ran over and killed that teenager because he was a Conservative, has been released on Bond...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (bs+z0)
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He pleaded with the judge, "I have a job and a family." Evidentlly, it worked.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2022 11:58 AM (2HEY8)

346 DXY sniffing around $110.95... up $0.75 on the day.

Chinese will sell out of Depends before it's over.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 11:58 AM (MkuC5)

347 Montana is going to have 2 trannies in its state legislature. No place is safe anymore, the insanity has spread like a cancer nationwide

Do trannies run for office on.a platform of having no balls?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 11:58 AM (eGTCV)

348 How much was the bond?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (LvTSG)

50k . So 10%

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 11:58 AM (XT8yI)

349 The guy who ran over and killed that teenager because he was a Conservative, has been released on Bond...
Posted by: It's me donna

Remember Verbal Kint's fear of being released.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 11:58 AM (M9XmQ)

350 Uh, dipshit. No one wins a nuclear war.

*cough*
Posted by: cockroaches at September 21,

Pfffft.....

Posted by: Keith Richards at September 21, 2022 11:58 AM (W/9Bb)

351 @187 Letitia James suing Trump. Again. And again.

----

Does New York State have nuisance plaintiff laws?

Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 11:58 AM (PTw5h)

352 Coackroaches and Keith Richards.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2022 11:58 AM (mE7cY)

353 WTF ? The guy who ran over and killed that teenager because he was a Conservative, has been released on Bond...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (bs+z0)

Be a shame if...

Posted by: Wally at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (FJYfm)

354 I grew some Black Seeded Simpson this year, and it was delightful. Second crop coming on now.

That's not a pun. I just like that variety of lettuce.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (6FeV1)

355
*cough* *hack* *wheeze*

Posted by: Keith Richards at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (1Nxff)

356 345 WTF ? The guy who ran over and killed that teenager because he was a Conservative, has been released on Bond...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:55 AM (bs+z0)
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He pleaded with the judge, "I have a job and a family." Evidentlly, it worked.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2022 11:58 AM (2HEY

Bond was only $50k. Outrageous in and of itself.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (MkuC5)

357 How much was the bond?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (LvTSG)

$0.07

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (7bRMQ)

358 338 How much was the bond?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 11:56 AM (LvTSG)

50 thousand
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 11:57 AM (bs+z0)

That is insane. Of course, they let the black guy who plowed into that Christmas festival of old white people out on bail, didn't they?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (5r4XQ)

359 Realisitically, 0.3 estimate for the third quarter is more or less dead in the water and we still have 9 days to go. What is more fascinating is how rapidly the Atlanta Fed is having to lower their forecasts for the third quarter which indicates that recessionary forces are gathering rather than diminishing.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (CXr4y)

360 Red Wave status: hanging by a thread

LOL

Posted by: Squid at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (efeY/)

361 Letitia James suing Trump. Again. And again.

cuz she's got crime totally under control

totally

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (us2H3)

362 Latetia James has convinced me, I'm going to go to my town board of assessment and tell them my house is only worth 30k for the purpose of property value assessment and they are just going to have to take my word for it.

Simultaneously, I'm going to go to the bank and tell them my house is worth 1 billion dollars for the purposes of a loan, and they are going to have to take my word for it.

F**king bullsh*t.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (qRCW7)

363
Remember how hard it was to listen to JPII? And yet the man was an intellectual and rhetorical powerhouse up to his last day on earth. And he took all kinds of grief and mockery for it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko

Of course, that was late in his papacy, when he was getting up in years, and before the KGB had the Bulgarians gut-shoot him. Remember, when elected he was one of the youngest popes in history, and was celebrated for his vigor (he was well known as an avid skiier).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (n+4am)

364 360 Red Wave status: hanging by a thread

LOL
Posted by: Squid at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (efeY/)

Little merry Sunshine

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (bs+z0)

365 Trump knew the deal, how important it was to get conservative judges seated. Next guy better double that. Soros worked in the shadows for decades planting these agents.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (mE7cY)

366 He pleaded with the judge, "I have a job and a family." Evidentlly, it worked.

Posted by: Blake
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The guy knew someone important politically or his attorney did.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (CXr4y)

367 Even the "respectable" orgs get things wrong that could have been easily checked by anyone with an internet connection.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Problem here is TGP's browsers only connect to TGP.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (M9XmQ)

368 I am somewhat sad that Joe Montana never moved to Montana and ran for governor.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (6FeV1)

369 DENVER (KDVR) — The National Transportation Safety Board is recommending installing a blood alcohol monitoring system in every new car to reduce the number of deaths on highways.

Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (geLO8)

370 Comité de salut public

Posted by: epador at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (BbSpR)

371 I grew some Black Seeded Simpson this year, and it was delightful. Second crop coming on now.

That's not a pun. I just like that variety of lettuce.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM

That is a good lettuce. Just planted a batch of mesclun mix myself. The cool weather should be good for it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (4p7Em)

372 Realisitically, 0.3 estimate for the third quarter is more or less dead in the water and we still have 9 days to go. What is more fascinating is how rapidly the Atlanta Fed is having to lower their forecasts for the third quarter which indicates that recessionary forces are gathering rather than diminishing.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 11:59 AM (CXr4y)
++++
Right. GDPNow is a neat model in that it takes into account all available data (within the parameters) automatically, so it tends to get more accurate closer to end-of-quarter. It moves a lot at the start of the quarter, and then approaches the final answer with greater precision toward the end. It is often pretty close to the actual finding, though not always.

But moving from +2.4 to +0.3 is a big correction, and indicates that as more data become available, the conclusion gets dramatically worse. Not a great sign.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (t0OGg)

373 He pleaded with the judge, "I have a job and a family." Evidentlly, it worked.

The young man he murdered had a future and a family.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (eGTCV)

374 It's possible that the worst possible President ever is in place at the worst possible time in the world's history.

I think the Antediluvians still hold that title clear.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (3hSHB)

375 369 DENVER (KDVR) — The National Transportation Safety Board is recommending installing a blood alcohol monitoring system in every new car to reduce the number of deaths on highways.
Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (geLO

blow it out your ass

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (us2H3)

376 Of course, that was late in his papacy, when he was getting up in years, and before the KGB had the Bulgarians gut-shoot him. Remember, when elected he was one of the youngest popes in history, and was celebrated for his vigor (he was well known as an avid skiier).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (n+4am)

He had Parkinson's too, didn't he?

Plus he was a staunch anti-communist, so who gives a flying fuck what the hell the press thought of the Holy Father?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (5r4XQ)

377 DXY $110.98

Bonds are starting to catch sell orders.

US02Y @4.000% 45bp above the 10Y.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (MkuC5)

378 Of course, that was late in his papacy, when he was getting up in years, and before the KGB had the Bulgarians gut-shoot him. Remember, when elected he was one of the youngest popes in history, and was celebrated for his vigor (he was well known as an avid skiier).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (n+4am)

True, but i don't actually remember that because i was only alive for the mumbly part... I'll be getting off the lawn, now.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (6FeV1)

379 372 But moving from +2.4 to +0.3 is a big correction, and indicates that as more data become available, the conclusion gets dramatically worse. Not a great sign.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (t0OGg)

=========

All that movement happened in about the last 4 weeks, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (LvTSG)

380 Boom.

DXY $111.00

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (MkuC5)

381 blow it out your ass
Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (us2H3)

That's one way to keep people from borrowing your car.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (Y5qcH)

382 329 How much was the bond?

007. same as downtown.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (v3pYe)

383 The National Transportation Safety Board is recommending installing a blood alcohol monitoring system in every new car to reduce the number of deaths on highways.
Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (geLO

And if the thing quits working, your car won't start? This is a fiasco waiting to happen.

Posted by: Wally at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (FJYfm)

384 The National Transportation Safety Board is recommending installing a blood alcohol monitoring system in every new car to reduce the number of deaths on highways.
Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (geLO

blow it out your ass
Posted by: REDACTED

There will be an adapter for that.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (M9XmQ)

385 368 I am somewhat sad that Joe Montana never moved to Montana and ran for governor.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (6FeV1)

Still, imo, the best quarterback to ever play the game. Dominant in the days before flag football. Always cool as a cucumber.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (5r4XQ)

386 I, for one, welcome the nuclear exchange.

Posted by: Keith Richards at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (Xrfse)

387 The Twinkie Brigades are ready for duty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Not a sitcon; actual reality as Brooklin cracks down on crime.

https://bit.ly/3LycStE

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (FVME7)

388 blow it out your ass
Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (us2H3

Raw data likely suggests they should install birth certificate scanners instead.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (6FeV1)

389 BREAKING:
@disclosetv · 29m
JUST IN - New York AG files civil fraud lawsuit against Trump.

@disclosetv · 4m
MORE - New York AG Letitia James claims "Trump falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars to unjustly enrich himself and to cheat the system, thereby cheating all of us."

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1572616190887100417

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 12:04 PM (yikp0)

390 374 "It's possible that the worst possible President ever is in place at the worst possible time in the world's history."

I think the Antediluvians still hold that title clear.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (3hSHB)

They didn't have nukes and didn't have Presidents. If Biden starts a nuclear war that kills everyone, I think it qualifies. So a possibility, though I don't think it'll happen.

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 12:04 PM (VPWcH)

391 Sean Baloney's GOP opponent said on NPR that some people see Kevin Mc as too right wing

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 12:04 PM (us2H3)

392 US02Y @4.000% 45bp above the 10Y.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (MkuC5)

Aka, inverted like a MF'er. Like in a recession.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 12:04 PM (Y5qcH)

393 >>Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (geLO

blow it out your ass

Posted by: REDACTED

hey I'm just posting a blurb here

Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 12:04 PM (geLO8)

394 The National Transportation Safety Board is recommending installing a blood alcohol monitoring system in every new car to reduce the number of deaths on highways.

Rent seeking. I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that some decision makers have taken a position in Backtrack or some new BAMS startup?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 12:04 PM (3hSHB)

395 Rule during crises IS THE RULE.

How many "emergencies " are we still in, where the normal rules don't apply?

This is what they want. This is what we get.

Posted by: Buddy at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (FCbAQ)

396 Letitia James suing Trump. Again. And again.

cuz she's got crime totally under control

totally

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 12:00 PM (us2H3)

I'm convinced any black woman in power is a hate whitey racist motherfucker. prove me wrong.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (VwHCD)

397
...after, not before

*shit*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (n+4am)

398
Still, imo, the best quarterback to ever play the game. Dominant in the days before flag football. Always cool as a cucumber.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (5r4XQ)

Nice guy too.. His Daughter went to the HS I worked at... Just a regular "Joe".... Bad pun I know

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (bs+z0)

399 BREAKING:
@disclosetv · 29m
JUST IN - New York AG files civil fraud lawsuit against Trump.

@disclosetv · 4m
MORE - New York AG Letitia James claims "Trump falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars to unjustly enrich himself and to cheat the system, thereby cheating all of us."

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1572616190887100417
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 12:04 PM

In all fairness, she's not very bright.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (4p7Em)

400 blow it out your ass
Posted by: REDACTED

There will be an adapter for that.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus
----------------------
Ancient Mayans and Aztecs hardest hit!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (yikp0)

401 I am somewhat sad that Joe Montana never moved to Montana and ran for governor.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (6FeV1)

Still, imo, the best quarterback to ever play the game. Dominant in the days before flag football. Always cool as a cucumber.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 12:03 PM (5r4XQ)

The "Hey, there's John Candy" story is the epitome of a guy who stays calm.

Posted by: Wally at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (FJYfm)

402
All that movement happened in about the last 4 weeks, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (LvTSG)

It's probably the release schedule of key data for their model. New housing starts for instance.

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (VPWcH)

403 Right. GDPNow is a neat model in that it takes into account all available data (within the parameters) automatically, so it tends to get more accurate closer to end-of-quarter. It moves a lot at the start of the quarter, and then approaches the final answer with greater precision toward the end. It is often pretty close to the actual finding, though not always.

But moving from +2.4 to +0.3 is a big correction, and indicates that as more data become available, the conclusion gets dramatically worse. Not a great sign.

Posted by: Joe Mannix
---------------------
Thanks for that post. My guess is that we might see some more stock market corrections this quarter like the surprise announcement from Ford yesterday which drove its share price down.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (CXr4y)

404 I cross the Joe Montana Bridge from time to time for work.

Posted by: Keith Richards at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (W/9Bb)

405 Hey Reuben, sorry i was a dick to you this morning.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (6FeV1)

406
True, but i don't actually remember that because i was only alive for the mumbly part... I'll be getting off the lawn, now.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 12:02 PM (6FeV1)

_________

Mister, we could use a guy like St. Pius X again.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (1Nxff)

407 Off sock

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (W/9Bb)

408 During a short law enforcement career, we got field sobriety testers. I don't know about them now, but a lot of stuff would cause somebody to blow hot. We were messing around with one, and a bite of a dill pickle, as rumored, set the thing over legal limit.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (lz5hY)

409 I about threw my phone through the wall when I read the murderer pleading about his job and family. No regret for what he did, all about himself.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (2HEY8)

410 He's still the President. You've come to terms with this reality, as have I, but in the broader scope of normal people looking around with bewilderment and wondering what's going on, they have legacy expectations about how the world works and how the systems work and a key component of that is that the President is the leader and interacts with the public. That farce *must* be maintained or the normal-type LIVs will start asking a lot of very uncomfortable questions and noticing things that they had *not* noticed prior. Could the deep state overcome that? Probably, but they'd rather not find out. Things like elections and presidents are extremely useful fictions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2022 11:27 AM (t0OGg)

A president is elected. Brandon was not elected. He was installed. I play on other people's expectations that Brandon is the leader as the current occupier of the position of President, mostly to demand that they account for his bumbling. But that does not mean that I have come to terms with him being President. He is not. Not in my eyes.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (yHsuS)

411
I'm convinced any black woman in power is a hate whitey racist motherfucker. prove me wrong.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (VwHCD)

Isn't there an R lieutenant governor or something? Winona?

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (VPWcH)

412 How the F does "inflating your wealth" enrich yourself?

You mean I can get richer just by pretending I'm richer? How does that work?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (Y5qcH)

413 Time to pull up NUKEMAP again and start doing some analysis.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (anj39)

414 I'm convinced any black woman in power is a hate whitey racist motherfucker. prove me wrong.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (VwHCD)

The Lieutenant Governor of Virginia.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (5r4XQ)

415 In all fairness, she's not very bright.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState
---------------------
She best be looking over her shoulder. The Republican candidate is gaining on her and some believe that the remnants of the Cuomo faction is helping that in return for revenge against her.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (CXr4y)

416 They didn't have nukes and didn't have Presidents.

The FUSA doesn't have a President either. There is some figurehead, but the content of this thread is clearly on the position that there is no sitting President, just political warlords, oligarchs and committees.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (3hSHB)

417 Cool as in 'hey, isn't that John Candy over there?'.

Wasn't it LT that also tried and succeeded at pile driving him into the ground?

Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (3byMq)

418 409 I about threw my phone through the wall when I read the murderer pleading about his job and family. No regret for what he did, all about himself.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (2HEY

He should be fired from his job but will probably get a raise for getting rid of one of those Domestic terrorists...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (bs+z0)

419 I'm convinced any black woman in power is a hate whitey racist motherfucker. prove me wrong.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (VwHCD)

Isn't there an R lieutenant governor or something? Winona?
Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM

Winsome Sears, iirc.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (4p7Em)

420 When my outfit switched to Agile Development and, by definition, got rid of scheduled meetings, they had three 'stand-ups' per day (not meetings mind you) to discuss what had been accomplished that day.

Shockingly, it didn't work out so well.
Posted by: Tonypete

We use agile. It's a horribly meeting-bloated system.

Posted by: Biergood at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (FQWHA)

421 blow it out your ass
Posted by: REDACTED

******

Hey, this /Breathalyzer tastes like sh!t.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2022 12:08 PM (cPDW+)

422 Rule during crises IS THE RULE.

How many "emergencies " are we still in, where the normal rules don't apply?

This is what they want. This is what we get.

Posted by: Buddy at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (FCbAQ)

As of April 2022, 79 emergencies have been declared; 37 have expired and another 42 are currently in effect, each having been renewed annually by the president.
*****
The covid ED is still in effect. Along with 41 other ones.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2022 11:26 AM (JOtiF)

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 12:08 PM (yHsuS)

423 412 How the F does "inflating your wealth" enrich yourself?

You mean I can get richer just by pretending I'm richer? How does that work?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (Y5qcH)

Borrow at a lower rate and buy stuff that'll appreciate? Has to be inflation not reflected/anticipated in rates though.

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 12:08 PM (VPWcH)

424 I'm convinced any black woman in power is a hate whitey racist motherfucker. prove me wrong.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2022 12:05 PM (VwHCD)

----------

Certainly not the conservatives, but I can't think of a single exception for the commies.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 21, 2022 12:08 PM (+VgLM)

425 Did Fuckface finish his speech?

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 21, 2022 12:08 PM (8Sqzu)

426
The Lieutenant Governor of Virginia.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (5r4XQ)

Winsome.. Wonderful, smart Woman.. Of course she is a Conservative Black Woman

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2022 12:08 PM (bs+z0)

427
True, but i don't actually remember that because i was only alive for the mumbly part... I'll be getting off the lawn, now.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Hey, us 29 yr olds had to read about the early days in Newsweek...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 21, 2022 12:09 PM (n+4am)

428 Turn me loose set me free somewhere in the middle of Montana. You can keep your so called Social Security 'n
give me all that's coming to me....

Merl, you've won four silicone titties and two hard dicks.
Next contestant.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 12:09 PM (z/NLz)

429
It's not a meeting if there aren't any donuts.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2022 12:09 PM (1Nxff)

430 She best be looking over her shoulder. The Republican candidate is gaining on her and some believe that the remnants of the Cuomo faction is helping that in return for revenge against her.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM

Nice campaign youse got dere. Shame if something wuz to happen to it.

- The Cuomos

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 12:09 PM (4p7Em)

431 When my outfit switched to Agile Development and, by definition, got rid of scheduled meetings, they had three 'stand-ups' per day (not meetings mind you) to discuss what had been accomplished that day.

Shockingly, it didn't work out so well.
Posted by: Tonypete

We use agile. It's a horribly meeting-bloated system.

Posted by: Biergood at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (FQWHA)

lol

Reminds of when they went with total quality management in the military or when INEL became INEEL (extra E for extra environmentally conscious). Same shit, different branding.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 12:09 PM (yHsuS)

432 But moving from +2.4 to +0.3 is a big correction, and indicates that as more data become available, the conclusion gets dramatically worse. Not a great sign.

Posted by: Joe Mannix

Is why the curve is inverted like a DC9 with a busted jack screw.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 12:09 PM (MkuC5)

433 423 412 How the F does "inflating your wealth" enrich yourself?
------------------
I don't know. If a lot of people are financially strung out and the dollar loses 30% of its value I'd say the Moneylenders win big time.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 21, 2022 12:10 PM (8Sqzu)

434 It's not a meeting if there aren't any donuts.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2022 12:09 PM (1Nxff)

Does that go for Weight Watchers meetings?

Posted by: Wally at September 21, 2022 12:10 PM (FJYfm)

435

As of April 2022, 79 emergencies have been declared; 37 have expired and another 42 are currently in effect, each having been renewed annually by the president.

_________

The Spanish are still a threat to Cuba!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2022 12:10 PM (1Nxff)

436 But that does not mean that I have come to terms with him being President. He is not. Not in my eyes.

We are in a post-Constitution or Without Rule of Law era. The Presidency is an office defined by the Constitution that is no longer in effect.

Basically, we are all just winging it. A fiat government.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 12:10 PM (3hSHB)

437 How the F does "inflating your wealth" enrich yourself?

You mean I can get richer just by pretending I'm richer? How does that work?
---------------------
And wouldn't you be paying taxes on the fictional money you claimed to have?

I know -- I won't claim $30,000 as my income; I'll claim $3,000,000 and get all of those cool write-offs!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 12:10 PM (yikp0)

438 416 "They didn't have nukes and didn't have Presidents."

The FUSA doesn't have a President either. There is some figurehead, but the content of this thread is clearly on the position that there is no sitting President, just political warlords, oligarchs and committees.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (3hSHB)

So the worst possible president would need to have authority and be intentionally and knowingly evil. That seems reasonable.

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 12:11 PM (VPWcH)

439 369 DENVER (KDVR) — The National Transportation Safety Board is recommending installing a blood alcohol monitoring system in every new car to reduce the number of deaths on highways.
Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 12:01 PM (geLO

-

Pelosis hardest hit.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at September 21, 2022 12:11 PM (rAUIJ)

440 INEEL (extra E for extra environmentally conscious). Same shit, different branding.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 12:09 PM (yHsuS)

Was that Zod's idea?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 12:11 PM (6FeV1)

441 Trump is in a unique place in history. Half the country loves him, and another half hates him. This was similar to Lincoln, save for the half that hated Lincoln didn't continuously and childishly fuck with Lincoln by harassing him with petty bullshit and persecute his supporters. This is unique in that we have two distinct classes of people in this country now. The Americans, and the petty, chickenshits who whine about everything and exist within their own stupid little petty reality. Fuck me runnin'. These people need some fucking hardship.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 21, 2022 12:11 PM (QSjkU)

442 I about threw my phone through the wall when I read the murderer pleading about his job and family. No regret for what he did, all about himself.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2022 12:06 PM (2HEY

In other words..leftist.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2022 12:11 PM (VwHCD)

443 @flounder: I refuse to call Biden president, because, like you, I do not believe he was legitimately elected.

What sort of fascinates me, in a macabre sort of way, is: If it's ever acknowledged Brandon was illegitimately installed in the White House, what happens to all of those bills he signed?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2022 12:11 PM (2HEY8)

444 Apparently there is a nood with a bunch on non-nooding mofos.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 12:12 PM (yHsuS)

445 > This was similar to Lincoln, save for the half that hated Lincoln didn't continuously and childishly fuck with Lincoln by harassing him with petty bullshit and persecute his supporters.

yeah, they just shot him in the back of the head

Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 12:12 PM (geLO8)

446 Certainly not the conservatives, but I can't think of a single exception for the commies.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 21, 2022 12:08 PM (+VgLM)

yeah, that was my point.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2022 12:13 PM (VwHCD)

447 Cool as in 'hey, isn't that John Candy over there?'.
Wasn't it LT that also tried and succeeded at pile driving him into the ground?
Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 12:07 PM (3byMq)

I think it was Jim Burt whose fat ass sat on Joe as he went to the ground and cracked his shoulder.

Play off game in San Fran if I remember right.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2022 12:13 PM (YScEb)

448 I always liked the word "ad-hocracy".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 12:13 PM (6FeV1)

449 I wish we could get through at least one thread here without anal-breathalyzer mentions!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 12:13 PM (yikp0)

450
It's not a meeting if there aren't any donuts.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Heh. In one of Nelson DeMille's thriller novels, a Joint Terrorism task force is meeting in NYC and there are refreshments on the side table, labelled for the participants.

Oatmeal cookies for the FBI
Brioche and croissants for the CIA
Donuts for NYPD

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 21, 2022 12:14 PM (n+4am)

451 nood castration

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 12:14 PM (yikp0)

452 @disclosetv · 4m
MORE - New York AG Letitia James claims "Trump falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars to unjustly enrich himself and to cheat the system, thereby cheating all of us."

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The only president to leave office poorer than he entered, and who donated his salary to charity.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 12:15 PM (mmJvy)

453 ace has saved us from ourselves once again

Posted by: micky at September 21, 2022 12:15 PM (3byMq)

454 Biden to Russia at the UN: Go ahead. Make my day!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 12:17 PM (FVME7)

455 If it's ever acknowledged Brandon was illegitimately installed in the White House, what happens to all of those bills he signed?
Posted by: Blake

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What will really blow your mind is that HE isn't signing them.

https://tinyurl.com/2g77cjgy

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 21, 2022 12:17 PM (Q8gyp)

456 Uh, dipshit. No one wins a nuclear war.

*cough*
Posted by: cockroaches at September 21, 2022

Sup bud.

Posted by: Keith Richards at September 21, 2022 12:20 PM (GwxCX)

457 >>> and the petty, chickenshits who whine about everything and exist within their own stupid little petty reality. Fuck me runnin'. These people need some fucking hardship.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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When their masters take over they will be your boss.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 12:28 PM (z/NLz)

458 I got my quote from Epoch Times, but I didn't notice it said 2nd Quarter, not 3rd. oops ... at least I quoted it correctly.

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