The Babylon Bee's Seth Dillon Suggests He'll Be Suing Twitter Under the Texas Anti-Censorship Law In October

I believe he has to wait because the Fifth Circuit's decision still has to go back down to the district judge.

Seth Dillon
@SethDillon
How's this for a timeline?
Sept 2021: Texas passes a law (HB 20) to protect free speech by limiting Big Tech's ability to censor based on viewpoint.
Sept 2021: Two trade groups representing Big Tech immediately filed suit to try and block the law.
Dec 2021: An Obama-appointed judge ruled in favor of Big Tech, blocking the law from going into effect. In his ruling, he said it would be unconstitutional to put limits on the ability of social media platforms to moderate content as they see fit.
Seth Dillon
March 2022: Twitter locks out the Babylon Bee for making a joke they didn't like.
Sept 2022: The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals overturns the earlier decision on HB 20, saying the law is constitutional because it chills censorship, not speech.
October 2022: The Babylon Bee sues Twitter.

Professor Margot Cleveland explains the Fifth Circuit's decision at The Federalist.

The court had to choose between several precedents which arguably controlled the ruling.

Two stood in direct contradiction: Miami Herald and Pruneyard Shopping Ctr.

In Miami Herald, the Supreme Court held that a Florida statute that required newspapers to grant political candidates the right to equal space to reply to criticism violated the First Amendment rights of the publisher. In reaching this conclusion, the Supreme Court stressed that the newspapers' decisions concerning the size, content, and treatment of public issues and public officials involved editorial control and judgment protected from state interference by the First Amendment.

So, the Tech Monopolists argued that they're like newspapers -- publishers, not platforms -- and cannot be required to air views that conflict with their own editorial position.

And of course note that this is in explicit contradiction with the idea of being a "platform" for purposes of s.230.

What is a platform? A platform is a neutral, well, platform upon which other people post their opinions and views. Unlike a publisher, which publishes its own views, and the views of people it invites to be published.

No one thinks that every one in the comments is posting "Ace Opinions," obviously. That's why I have immunity for opinions and even libel posted in my own interactive social media platform.

If they're publishers, they do not have immunity. They are subject to lawsuit like every other publisher on the face of the earth.

Conversely, in PruneYard Shopping Ctr. v. Robins, the Supreme Court held that the state could require privately owned shopping centers to allow individuals to distribute political literature without violating the mall owners' First Amendment rights. In upholding California's mandate, the high court reasoned that PruneYard did not involve the concerns present in Miami Herald, namely forced speech through the state telling a newspaper what to print.

So there, the Court found that the state can require someone maintaining a large public space where people congregate in large groups to permit people to engage in political messaging.

Gee, would monopoly social media platforms with 50 million+ users count as large public spaces?

Professor Cleveland analyzes the other cases the Fifth Circuit cited in its decision, but I'll refer you to the article for those. But this one seems especially important:

Next up was Pacific Gas & Electric Company v. Public Utilities Commission of California. In that case, a plurality of the Supreme Court declared unconstitutional California's mandate that the utility company let third-party groups include newsletters in the billing statements Pacific Gas sent to customers. In Pacific Gas, the Supreme Court distinguished PruneYard, by stressing that allowing the third-parties' speech did not affect the shopping center owners' exercise of their own right to speech, while mandating the inclusion of a third-party's newsletter affected Pacific Gas's ability to showcase its own speech, relative to the voice of its opponents.

So the takeaway there is that the courts have previously found that there is no harm in requiring an entity to permit people sharing their views on their property so long as the owner of that property is not harmed as far as his own ability to speak.

Obviously, behemoth tech monopolies are not injured in their ability to get their monopoly message out if TrumpFan69 is allowed to say "Hunter Biden is crackhead."

That's what the Fifth Circuit concluded:

After detailing these five decisions, the Fifth Circuit majority concluded that precedent teaches that for a "speech host" to mount a successful First Amendment challenge, he must show that "the challenged law either (a) compels the host to speak or (b) restricts the host's own speech." For instance, in Miami Herald, the challenged law mandated newspapers "speak" by publishing a politician's response, and in Hurley, the law required the parade organizers to alter the message conveyed by the parade, while in Pacific Gas, the state's requirement that the utility company dispatch third parties' newsletters restricted the company's own ability to speak.
Conversely, in both PruneYard and Rumsfeld, speech was neither compelled nor restricted. According to the Supreme Court's reasoning in PruneYard, allowing access to the mall did not affect the property owner's speech: The owners were neither forced to communicate a message nor prevented from engaging in their own speech. Likewise, in Rumsfeld, the educational institutions required to provide equal access were not forced to speak nor deterred from speaking on their own.
This analysis led the Fifth Circuit to conclude that HR 20 passed constitutional muster, with the majority finding that the law more closely resembled the situations in PruneYard and Rumsfeld. Specifically, HR 20 required the tech companies to provide equal access and nothing more. The users' speech also does not become the tech companies' speech, the majority stressed, and the platforms remain free to speak as they see fit, by disavowing or distancing themselves from posts. In fact, as the Fifth Circuit stressed, several platforms already do this by adding disclaimers to users' posts.

In the rest of her article, she discusses the Eleventh Circuit's decision against a similar law, and the likelihood of a Supreme Court review of both.

The Fifth Circuit's ruling seems like a rock-solid analysis and decision to me. The Eleventh Circuit just seems to be issuing ipse dixits to the Florida's arguments -- "It is this way because we say it's this way."

Eh, that's not fair. I haven't read it. I've only read Professor Cleveland's brief recap of their conclusions.

It might also be the case that the Florida law actually di impose an "undue burden" on tech monopolies by requiring them to explain, with specificity, the reasons for every censorship decision with seven days of that decision, which might in fact be nearly impossible. So there might just be a practical reason why that law does not pass muster.

I think the Supreme Court will be highly tempted to accept that analysis as its own when they grant certiorari and review this case as well as the Eleventh Circuit's ruling. See Margot Cleveland's article for fuller discussion.

Posted by: Ace at 02:56 PM

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1 First!!

Posted by: jmel at September 21, 2022 02:58 PM (RWHIh)

2 May justice prevail.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at September 21, 2022 02:58 PM (3cGpq)

3 yeah boi

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2022 02:59 PM (dCxaZ)

4 Agree, Ace, and Ken Paxton has really impressed with this entire thing. Whew!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 21, 2022 02:59 PM (w0NJk)

5 This gives Twitter a chance to do the intelligent thing!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: rd at September 21, 2022 03:00 PM (Z32m1)

6 Sue like the wind

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 21, 2022 03:01 PM (p/nbH)

7 Sue away, Seth. And be sure to make the legal paperwork as funny as possible.

(I suggest channeling the spirit of Jerry Buchmaier)

Posted by: Brewingfrog at September 21, 2022 03:01 PM (BedVp)

8 I think the Supreme Court will be highly tempted to accept that analysis as its own when they grant certioari and review this case as well as the Eleventh Circuit's ruling. See Margot Cleveland's article for fuller discussion.

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Thomas is de facto Chief Justice right now.

I'm really looking forward to the next few years of SCOTUS rulings.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:02 PM (LvTSG)

9 Twitter is a Leftist circle jerk

Posted by: JoeF. at September 21, 2022 03:02 PM (mR6Gs)

10 Down goes twitter(s stock)!

Posted by: E. Lawn Musque at September 21, 2022 03:02 PM (WmGrA)

11 Willowed from last thread.

The two men killed at the BP refinery fire in Oregon, Ohio yesterday were 30 year old brothers. One had two small children and the other a 2 year old child at home.

Fire is out, refinery is shut down. No idea yet what caused the explosion. The refinery had just gone back on line two weeks ago after a period of maintenance. It refines 130,000 barrels a day, fuel mostly used in the Midwest. Half owned by a Canadian company.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 21, 2022 03:00 PM (bxW9c)

Posted by: Jen the original at September 21, 2022 03:03 PM (bxW9c)

12 I want them to sue and an injunction on any countermotions EVER from the big tech monopolies. I want the WIN to prevail and no more lawfare. (And a pony for TJM).

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2022 03:03 PM (foa6+)

13 Obviously, behemoth tech monopolies are not injured in their ability to get their monopoly message out if TrumpFan69 is allowed to say "Hunter Biden is crackhead."

I'm so old I remember when the Bush twins, drinking at age 20, was the biggest scandal known to man. It was the president's daughters breaking the law people!

Now I can watch videos of Hunter Biden smoking crack and banging hookers (who may or may not be of age) on pronhub and its all good.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:03 PM (ESjRY)

14 12 I want them to sue and an injunction on any countermotions EVER from the big tech monopolies. I want the WIN to prevail and no more lawfare. (And a pony for TJM).
Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2022 03:03 PM (foa6+)

==========

I WANT MY PONY!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:04 PM (LvTSG)

15 "It might also be the case that the Florida law actually di impose an "undue burden" on tech monopolies by requiring them to explain, with specificity, the reasons for every censorship decision with seven days of that decision, which might in fact be nearly impossible. So there might just be a practical reason why that law does not pass muster."

Justice delayed is justice denied.

If you cannot explain why something is illegal and cannot be legally posted in 3-5 sentences, referencing previous court decisions? Maybe it is not illegal, and you just dislike the thought expressed.

Posted by: rd at September 21, 2022 03:04 PM (Z32m1)

16 They're a publisher. Treat them like any other publisher, or make them act like a public venue.

Posted by: Hawkpilot (Ace-Certified best nic) at September 21, 2022 03:04 PM (nkahJ)

17 I'm so old I remember when the Bush twins, drinking at age 20, was the biggest scandal known to man. It was the president's daughters breaking the law people!

Now I can watch videos of Hunter Biden smoking crack and banging hookers (who may or may not be of age) on pronhub and its all good.
Posted by: 18-1

All I did was take a piss.

Posted by: Billy Carter at September 21, 2022 03:04 PM (WmGrA)

18 This gives Twitter a chance to do the intelligent thing!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: rd

Ritual Seppaku?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022 03:05 PM (ndc+z)

19 16 They're a publisher. Treat them like any other publisher, or make them act like a public venue.
Posted by: Hawkpilot (Ace-Certified best nic) at September 21, 2022 03:04 PM (nkahJ)

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Sue them for every death threat they let go on the platform.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)

20 So soon after pride Month?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at September 21, 2022 03:06 PM (+4hLU)

21 Good and hard.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 03:06 PM (yHsuS)

22 This ruling made some sloth-loving chick on Twatter cry yesterday.

Let's hope SCOTUS continues that trend.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 21, 2022 03:07 PM (Rl7KJ)

23 I've decided I will buy twitter after all.

$1.75 and that's my last bid.

Posted by: E. Lawn Musque at September 21, 2022 03:07 PM (WmGrA)

24 I litigated some of these public-private free speech cases back in the day. It's all bullshit. The cases are all over the place and usually turn on arbitrary distinctions that strongly suggest an outcome-determinative approach. I think trying to predict what any court is gonna do with the TX case -- or any similar case -- is a fool's errand. You'd be better off flipping a coin . . . or looking at the political composition of the court.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2022 03:07 PM (iFTx/)

25 9 Twitter is a Leftist circle jerk
Posted by: JoeF. at September 21, 2022 03:02 PM (mR6Gs)

And full of bots.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 21, 2022 03:07 PM (Rl7KJ)

26
Now I will be the only one.

Posted by: Seth Dillon, Twitter Highlander at September 21, 2022 03:08 PM (B3oWe)

27 It's A Tax!

Posted by: Chief SCROTUM Roberts, Epstein Island Visitor at September 21, 2022 03:08 PM (YScEb)

28 Ace, you rat bastard.

Posted by: TrumpFan69 at September 21, 2022 03:08 PM (W4z6N)

29 Willowed:

Whitlock's absolutely wonderful essay regarding the inanity of the "reparations movement".

https://tinyurl.com/m4ktwfek
Posted by: BruceWayne

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2022 03:08 PM (MGB5H)

30 And full of bots.
Posted by: Thrawn

Some, hot!

Posted by: Bender at September 21, 2022 03:08 PM (WmGrA)

31 Trumpfan420 > Trumpfan69

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:08 PM (ESjRY)

32 If you don't like Twitter start your own they say.
Hope the do, someone needs to break ghrm

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 03:08 PM (rNhFv)

33 I WANT MY PONY!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:04 PM (LvTSG)

All we can do is this roadkill armadillo.

Posted by: Pawn Stars at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM (yHsuS)

34 It would be a relief to bring these tech titans to their knees.

And then crush them into little pieces.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM (BFigT)

35 What does bitsy dickticks mean?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM (Y5qcH)

36 "I believe he has to wait because .."

But does he have standing? The universal gotcha?

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM (24fqN)

37 What, no sleepy John Kerry at the U.N. thread?

Posted by: wth at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM (v0R5T)

38 >>>28 Ace, you rat bastard.
Posted by: TrumpFan69

hey man i was sticking up for you

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM (B3oWe)

39 What does bitsy dickticks mean?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM

Crabs.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM (4p7Em)

40 I mean some of us *do* have feelings, you know.

Posted by: TrumpFan69 at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM (rJlE0)

41 Are young, stupid leftists truly unfamiliar with the concept of free speech or are they just seizing on the moment to shut down debate?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (eGTCV)

42 No pizza is complete without pineapple

Posted by: Ace Opinions at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (bX9B3)

43 Sue! Sue like the wind!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (4I/2K)

44 >>>31 Trumpfan420 > Trumpfan69

hard disagree

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (B3oWe)

45 hey man i was sticking up for you

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:09 PM (B3oWe)

Ok we're cool then.

Posted by: TrumpFan69 at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (rJlE0)

46 This story would get more readers if one of the law yakkers for the defendant would pull out a Bowie knife and threaten the Cort Stenographer with certain mutilation unless a dinner and movie date was involved.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (1DgE4)

47 Are young, stupid leftists truly unfamiliar with the concept of free speech or are they just seizing on the moment to shut down debate?
Posted by: That NLurker guy

Yes.

Posted by: mikeski at September 21, 2022 03:11 PM (P1f+c)

48 I do remember the early internet where people could and did post anything.

Arguably the internet was freer then the real world then.

Now you are taking a risk saying anything more risky then "Kittens are cute" under your own name.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:11 PM (ESjRY)

49 6 Sue like the wind
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 21, 2022 03:01 PM (p/nbH)

You beat me by a mile. Jolly good show!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 03:11 PM (4I/2K)

50 u

^^^

The missing "u"

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 21, 2022 03:11 PM (1DgE4)

51 Since leftists are the smart and moral ones why are they so afraid of debate?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:11 PM (eGTCV)

52 Sue! Sue like the wind!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (4I/2K)

Saul Rosenberg

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:11 PM (7nVJb)

53 420 is way overrated and 69 is way underrated
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (B3oWe)

*air guitar*

Posted by: Bill & Ted at September 21, 2022 03:12 PM (4I/2K)

54 When I am Weaker Then You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles

Posted by: Frank Herbert at September 21, 2022 03:12 PM (ESjRY)

55 Are young, stupid leftists truly unfamiliar with the concept of free speech or are they just seizing on the moment to shut down debate?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (eGTCV)

They've been indoctrinated to believe that contrary opinions and even factual information contrary to their beliefs and calling attention to their antics is violence. There's no room for free speech there.

Posted by: Pawn Stars at September 21, 2022 03:12 PM (yHsuS)

56 If a platform can almost instantaneously ban or censor a comment/tweet/post, and most of them have that capacity and do so regularly, then they damned well should be able to come up with a written justification of that action within 7 days.

Fuck 'em if it's a lot of work. The burden, however much that might be, should be on the censors.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:12 PM (Gda1b)

57 >>>Now you are taking a risk saying anything more risky then "Kittens are cute" under your own name.

not if you're on the left!

Notice that AllahPundit, who claims the right is authoritarian and scary, chooses to decloak and use his real name now that he's firmly on the left and protected by the left.

Almost as if he knows it's not the right at all that is authoritarian and scary.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:12 PM (B3oWe)

58 Trumpfan69... Trumpfan70... whatever it takes.

Posted by: 496 at September 21, 2022 03:12 PM (VJsqe)

59 Sue! Sue like the wind!

Posted by: Count de Monet

I read that in Christopher Cross's voice.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:13 PM (Gda1b)

60 The Florida case required equal space in newspapers, so I can see where the court thought it was an imposition, but in the case of electronic media, I don't see how it is relevant. The Pruneyard case is much closer to the issue.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2022 03:13 PM (lTGtQ)

61 420 is way overrated and 69 is way underrated

Meh, I find more then a couple of 69s a day isn't worth it.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 21, 2022 03:13 PM (ESjRY)

62 Sorry to say but TrumpFan69 is an idiot.

Posted by: DeSantisFan69 at September 21, 2022 03:13 PM (7nVJb)

63 Did Chuy ever practice appeals? It's amazing the percentage that don't and it fucks up the client's case having to get an appeal lawyer who doesn't know the case and has to go through the file. More money is my point.

Posted by: Apu Rising at September 21, 2022 03:13 PM (wgKmC)

64 >>Saul Rosenberg

question: Is it saul or sol, and is there such a name as Sol outside of a 1970s science fiction paperback?

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:13 PM (B3oWe)

65 On a happier note,
ITS SEA OTTER AWARENESS WEEK!

Go to your local aquarium and learn about the sea otters!

Did you know they hold hands while they sleep?

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 21, 2022 03:13 PM (Ti1tl)

66 Search requests for how to break limbs 'painlessly' trend after Putin’s ‘mobilization’ announcement

The Russians will take turns breaking each others legs, creating generations of gimpy Russians.

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 03:14 PM (RHGPo)

67 "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press"

Nevertheless, we sure did end up with a lot of these laws. Expecting more. Hat tip to the folx who truly understand this wicked legal caprice.

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at September 21, 2022 03:14 PM (24fqN)

68 They've been indoctrinated to believe that contrary opinions and even factual information contrary to their beliefs and calling attention to their antics is violence. There's no room for free speech there.
Posted by: Pawn Stars at September 21, 2022 03:12 PM

^^^ This. They really aren't taught what free speech is or why it's so important. It's like asking a communist to understand the concept of private property.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 03:14 PM (4p7Em)

69 ITS SEA OTTER AWARENESS WEEK!

Go to your local aquarium and learn about the sea otters!

Yes...and notice that coin conveniently placed on the floor? Pick it up....yes ever so slowly pick it up.

Posted by: Some Sea Otter preparing at September 21, 2022 03:14 PM (ESjRY)

70 So on the record they told Congress that they were a platform? And on the record they told a court that they were a publisher?

Posted by: I Mean at September 21, 2022 03:14 PM (dQ305)

71 The answer to bad speech remains more speech.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (yQpMk)

72 On a happier note,
ITS SEA OTTER AWARENESS WEEK!

Go to your local aquarium and learn about the sea otters!

Did you know they hold hands while they sleep?

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 21, 2022 03:13 PM (Ti1tl)

I've heard that they are big fans of Uranus.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (yHsuS)

73 I thought sea otters preferred people to remain unaware of them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (LvTSG)

74 question: Is it saul or sol, and is there such a name as Sol outside of a 1970s science fiction paperback?

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:13 PM (B3oWe)

Well I always thought I was a dummy back in high school for thinking it was Sol if that's any help. In fact that's still how I want to spell it.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (7nVJb)

75 Adding to my comment above, part of the problem with having any consistent, rational application of law to these public-private free speech issues is that technology and society are always outrunning the legal precedent. Pruneyard was notable because it dealt with a then-new phenomenon: huge, nearly city-cized private malls. And obviously, the sort of mega-tech social media platforms animating cases like the TX case were unimaginable only a few years ago. So the courts are continually fighting the last war on these issues.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (iFTx/)

76 You best get your mind right before you go stompin' around in the Prune Yard.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (sWM8x)

77 So on the record they told Congress that they were a platform? And on the record they told a court that they were a publisher?

And a dessert topping and a floor wax

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (ESjRY)

78 I hope a lot of people will join in and finally bury the Twit.

They banned me for saying LeBron James was a pansy. Seriously, that was all I said. So, he is forever a big, giant pansy in my mind, and Twitter only solidified it.

I cannot and will not watch any game the African Violet plays.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (sI15f)

79
i'm just happy to watch from the closet

Posted by: JebBushFan69 at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (B3oWe)

80 420 > half a dozen 69s

Posted by: rd at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (Z32m1)

81 >>The Babylon Bee's Seth Dillon Suggests He'll Be Suing Twitter Under the Texas Anti-Censorship Law In October —Ace

Crybaby high-school WGAS, Kneel--ZOD.

Posted by: ZOD at September 21, 2022 03:16 PM (Q/6pY)

82 'God Orb' is the new 'Sol.'

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at September 21, 2022 03:16 PM (24fqN)

83 42 No pizza is complete without pineapple

Posted by: Ace Opinions at September 21, 2022 03:10 PM (bX9B3)

P R O M E T H I U S

The only suitable response to that.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 03:16 PM (MkuC5)

84 Is being sued for millions even a deterrent for these propaganda sites? Could they be sued for NOT deleting leftwing death threats? And why would the FL law be too onerous if they already have a staff to perform their censorship? They'd just come up with their bogus list of reasons and then be sued for lying.

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2022 03:16 PM (foa6+)

85 *kneels*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 03:16 PM (yQpMk)

86 violence. There's no room for free speech there

plus it's so much fun and empowering to join in the torch and pitchfork brigade and try to destroy someone who expressed some idea you dislike

Posted by: brak at September 21, 2022 03:16 PM (j5Tg0)

87 >>>Well I always thought I was a dummy back in high school for thinking it was Sol if that's any help. In fact that's still how I want to spell it.

he does sound like he's saying "Sol" in one of the calls. He just says "Sol" when asked to repeat his first name. Maybe the famous one about his nub.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:16 PM (B3oWe)

88 BabylonBee: Biden Deploys 20,000 National Guard Troops To Defend Home From Incoming Migrants

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 03:17 PM (RHGPo)

89 Personally, I would settle for a circuit split for awhile like the Hopwood case caused. Raises Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt, for fakebook, tweeter, and even for Googul affecting stock prices, etc.

But, the best way to go after google is their domination of online advertising which has reached the old ATT yellowpages level. Fakebook is busy doing itself in and tweeter has a lot of problems.

Even Amazon is suddenly looking vulnerable with repeated missteps in deliveries, shoddy goods, and so on.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:17 PM (CXr4y)

90 >>>ITS SEA OTTER AWARENESS WEEK!

is it really? I thought you were making that up.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:17 PM (B3oWe)

91 Sue! Sue like the wind!

Posted by: Count de Monet

Not Saul Rosenberg or Christopher Cross. Was intended to be read in Ned Nederlander's voice.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 03:17 PM (4I/2K)

92 Before the internet, we passed around viral cassette tapes. The original Jerky Boys tape had a guy named Mark Knopfler (please pay attention) on the B side and he was an absolute scream. And a bit off color at times.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:17 PM (7nVJb)

93 i'm just happy to watch from the closet
Posted by: JebBushFan69 at September 21, 2022 03:15 PM (B3oWe)

--------
Damn - so cruel

Posted by: 496 at September 21, 2022 03:17 PM (VJsqe)

94 Twitter allowed Antifa and BLM to coordinate their operations to torch US cities. They should be sued into oblivion.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 03:18 PM (Y5qcH)

95 oh.

ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: ZOD at September 21, 2022 03:18 PM (Q/6pY)

96 >>>80 420 > half a dozen 69s

i can't disagree enough

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:18 PM (B3oWe)

97 You'd be better off flipping a coin . . . or looking at the political composition of the court.

When has this ever not been true at the SCOTUS level?

Posted by: Oddbob at September 21, 2022 03:18 PM (nfrXX)

98 420 is way overrated and 69 is way underrated

Meh, I find more then a couple of 69s a day isn't worth it.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke

How about a 68? You do me and I'll owe you one.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022 03:18 PM (ndc+z)

99 90 Isn't that actually NEXT week?

We can extend it, don't get me wrong, but...

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 03:19 PM (MkuC5)

100 80 420 > half a dozen 69s

i can't disagree enough

/Smacks head

Posted by: Ace's Middle School Math Teacher at September 21, 2022 03:19 PM (ESjRY)

101 >>>ITS SEA OTTER AWARENESS WEEK!

is it really? I thought you were making that up.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:17 PM (B3oWe)

It's ALWAYS sea otter awareness week.

Posted by: Fartclams at September 21, 2022 03:19 PM (yHsuS)

102
The Supreme Court will accept any analysis that leaves Big Tech the winner.

The current fact of Big Tech being a hand-in-glove partner of the Evil Regime obviates the need for any
Constitutionality when it comes to speech controls. And it creates a great precedent for future "public/private partnerships" to give the State carte blanche to do anything it likes under the aegis of its """private""" sector cronies.

At the end of it all, this arrangement is the Unholy Grail of the Evil Regime - all that pesky rule of law is gone. And at the bottom of it all, nearly every judge who ever lived was a Statist.

Do not expect the SC to rule against SV.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2022 03:19 PM (oINRc)

103 Since leftists are the smart and moral ones why are they so afraid of debate?
Posted by: That NLurker guy

Because it's about rhetoric and emotional pleading, not persuasion. Their mission is to apply unReality to all policies, situations, etc. Debate interrupts that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 21, 2022 03:19 PM (IyrhE)

104 Twitter allowed Antifa and BLM to coordinate their operations to torch US cities. They should be sued into oblivion.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Allowed? They helped coordinate them.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2022 03:19 PM (lTGtQ)

105 is there any way then i can sue you people?

Posted by: Saul "Sol" Rosenberg with his nub at September 21, 2022 03:19 PM (B3oWe)

106 How about a 68? You do me and I'll owe you one.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022 03:18 PM (ndc+z)

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I'd prefer a 77. That's where I get 8 more.

(it's phonetic)

Posted by: 496 at September 21, 2022 03:19 PM (VJsqe)

107 So the courts are continually fighting the last war on these issues.

Posted by: Elric Blade
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True and the only way that the techlords can even do the censorship is through algorithms. It is difficult to extrapolate how algorithms have censorship rights as a publisher (for example, algorithms have already been demonstrated to creating disparate impacts for protected minorities in a number of cases).

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:20 PM (CXr4y)

108 420 > half a dozen 69s

i can't disagree enough

Posted by: ace

Well, 6.0869565 to be totally honest.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022 03:20 PM (ndc+z)

109 >>>I'd prefer a 77. That's where I get 8 more.
(it's phonetic)

i don't get it.

Posted by: Saul at September 21, 2022 03:20 PM (B3oWe)

110 As a conservarive I know many people disagree with me. If doesn't weaken my confidence in conservarive philosophy and because liberals are so loud i largely know the emptiness of their philosophy.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:20 PM (eGTCV)

111 Since leftists are the smart and moral ones why are they so afraid of debate?

The actual explanation I've gotten from the left is normal people are stupid and might actually think stupid things like facts and logic should decide an issue, not what the FNM tells them to think.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:20 PM (ESjRY)

112 >>> How about a 68? You do me and I'll owe you one.

lol

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:21 PM (B3oWe)

113 >>>I'd prefer a 77. That's where I get 8 more.
(it's phonetic)

i don't get it.

Posted by: Saul at September 21, 2022 03:20 PM (B3oWe)

He'll have to owe you one.

Posted by: Fartclams at September 21, 2022 03:21 PM (yHsuS)

114 not if you're on the left!

Notice that AllahPundit, who claims the right is authoritarian and scary, chooses to decloak and use his real name now that he's firmly on the left and protected by the left.

Almost as if he knows it's not the right at all that is authoritarian and scary.

Posted by: ace

////

Great point. The Left protects its own....right up until they eat their own.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 21, 2022 03:21 PM (tQL7r)

115 111 The actual explanation I've gotten from the left is normal people are stupid and might actually think stupid things like facts and logic should decide an issue, not what the FNM tells them to think.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:20 PM (ESjRY)

=========

There was some undercover video of a freshman level college class about ten years ago of a young student demanding of her teacher just to tell her what to think, that the whole effort to get her to learn how to think was a waste of time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

116 Do not expect the SC to rule against SV.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Counterpoint--Dobbs and Bruen.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (CXr4y)

117 Big Ace

Counter to Big Tech platform.

Posted by: torabora at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (Y274z)

118 "ITS SEA OTTER AWARENESS WEEK!"

I was not aware that otter have opposable thumbs.
Thanks Sea Otter Awareness Week!

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (sn5EN)

119 >>110 As a conservarive I know many people disagree with y: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:20 PM (eGTCV)

(holds a gun to a cute koala's head)

You will define 'conservatism." Do it now.

Posted by: ZOD at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (Q/6pY)

120 It's sad when a satire website has to be the vanguard unit that leads the charge to preserve the freedom of speech.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (lf83v)

121 On a happier note,
ITS SEA OTTER AWARENESS WEEK!

Go to your local aquarium and learn about the sea otters!

Did you know they hold hands while they sleep?

Posted by: nurse ratched

I hold hands with my girl when we sleep.... DURING HISPANIC PRIDE MONTH

Posted by: Apu Rising at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (wgKmC)

122 There was some undercover video of a freshman level college class about ten years ago of a young student demanding of her teacher just to tell her what to think, that the whole effort to get her to learn how to think was a waste of time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Far too many instructors base their grading on personal factors rather than objective. In a gen ed class, most people don't want to major in that subject but just pass it.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:23 PM (CXr4y)

123 119 You will define 'conservatism." Do it now.
Posted by: ZOD at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (Q/6pY)

=========

Conservatism is considering mentioning Prometheus but not mentioning Prometheus while keeping threads Prometheus free.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:23 PM (LvTSG)

124 Because it's about rhetoric and emotional pleading, not persuasion. Their mission is to apply unReality to all policies, situations, etc. Debate interrupts that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 21, 2022 03:19 PM (IyrhE)

Super smart and brilliant orator Barack Obama never once spoke to an indifferent or hostile audience. Persuasion was not in the stuttering imbecile's toolbox. The same applies to Joe.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:23 PM (eGTCV)

125 There was some undercover video of a freshman level college class about ten years ago of a young student demanding of her teacher just to tell her what to think, that the whole effort to get her to learn how to think was a waste of time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

^^Was it a set up to get the prof to admit that was the point or was the student actually that pathetic?

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM (foa6+)

126 The Russians will take turns breaking each others legs, creating generations of gimpy Russians.
Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 03:14 PM (RHGPo)

Ironically also their approach to the Olympics....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM (6FeV1)

127 So can they use the argument,"We actually aren't a large public space with 50 million users. We're mostly bots."?

Maybe that would do it.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM (/BF8M)

128 "Next up was Pacific Gas & Electric Company v. Public Utilities Commission of California. In that case, a plurality of the Supreme Court declared unconstitutional California's mandate that the utility company let third-party groups include newsletters in the billing statements Pacific Gas sent to customers."

Imagine if that suit was decided in favor of the California PUC? Every mailed out PGandE bill would weigh ten pounds from all the California crazies with a cause.

You know who have to pay the postage on the bills? Not the crazies. Anyone with a PG&E Meter would pay for it.

Posted by: rd at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM (Z32m1)

129 Damn I really really hate legalese and legal logic.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM (1XoKP)

130 125 ^^Was it a set up to get the prof to admit that was the point or was the student actually that pathetic?
Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM (foa6+)

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If I remember correctly, it was just a pathetic student. It's probably somewhere on one of those college focused conservative sites, deep in their archives. I could look for it, but I is lazy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

131 House Judiciary GOP
@JudiciaryGOP

1h
#BREAKING: Judiciary Democrats just voted to support NON-CITIZENS voting in our elections

Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM (NpAcC)

132 The Left protects its own....right up until they eat their own.
________

Like in North Korea. If you don't clap enthusiastically, you are an enemy of the state.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 03:25 PM (lf83v)

133 DURING HISPANIC PRIDE MONTH

One of my cow-workers has been making a big deal about this.

She looks to be of English decent, speaks standard American English, and has an English last name.

But all was revealed recently when I found out her maiden name was hispanic.

These pride months are really, really stupid.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:25 PM (ESjRY)

134 >>>Did you know they hold hands while they sleep?

Like stalkers.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 03:25 PM (yHsuS)

135 It might also be the case that the Florida law actually di impose an "undue burden" on tech monopolies by requiring them to explain, with specificity, the reasons for every censorship decision with seven days of that decision, which might in fact be nearly impossible. So there might just be a practical reason why that law does not pass muster.

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sure we did it but we can't explain in real time why we did it

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 03:26 PM (OuH7W)

136 133 But all was revealed recently when I found out her maiden name was hispanic.

These pride months are really, really stupid.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:25 PM (ESjRY)

========

To be completely honest, there are Caucasian Mexicans just like there are Caucasian Spaniards.

Casting Charlton Heston as a Mexican wasn't really all that far-fetched.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:26 PM (LvTSG)

137 I could look for it, but I is lazy.

LOL, I could too ya know.

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2022 03:26 PM (foa6+)

138
Counterpoint--Dobbs and Bruen.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (CXr4y)

Neither of those decisions closed off a door to the Federal Government allowing it to simply walk through and do as it pleases without regard to the law that governs itself - a ruling saying that companies like Alphabet can't just silence people on behalf of the government would be taking a *very* shiny plaything away from the Regime.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2022 03:26 PM (oINRc)

139 Ritual Seppaku?

Posted by: rickb223

Hai!!

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:27 PM (Gda1b)

140 oh.
ZOD IMPERIAL.
Posted by: ZOD at September 21, 2022 03:18 PM

*considers comment*

*considers nic*

*considers adjective*

*ignores interjection*

*nods*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 03:27 PM (4p7Em)

141 To be completely honest, there are Caucasian Mexicans just like there are Caucasian Spaniards.

My point is that she was indistinguishable from any other person at the company. And yet she glomed onto "hispanic pride"...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:27 PM (ESjRY)

142 Conservatism is considering mentioning Prometheus but not mentioning Prometheus while keeping threads Prometheus free. >>Posted by: TheJamesMadison

This answer is incorrect. Insert another coin.

Posted by: ZOD at September 21, 2022 03:27 PM (Q/6pY)

143
At this point, I think monopoly or near monopoly/oligopoly "platforms" should be classified as common carriers.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 03:27 PM (Mzdiz)

144 Jehovah Witnesses have a long string of wins in dealing with government trying to suppress their speech.

They get the Word out. And fight the bastards.

Posted by: torabora at September 21, 2022 03:27 PM (Y274z)

145 You will define 'conservatism." Do it now.
Posted by: ZOD at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (Q/6pY)

Opposite of American liberalism.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 03:28 PM (1XoKP)

146 Why did Ma Bell get broken up again back in the 80s?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:28 PM (ESjRY)

147 Not that I could ever give any less of a fuck about him, but I wonder if "they" were right all these years about AllahDumbshit's identity. My only curiosity stems from wanting to know if it was Fake News all along.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:28 PM (pIwnI)

148 Communists especially hate Jehovah's Witnesses.

Posted by: torabora at September 21, 2022 03:28 PM (Y274z)

149 You will define 'conservatism." Do it now.
Posted by: ZOD at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (Q/6pY)
.........

Stopping at six Donettes?

Posted by: wth at September 21, 2022 03:28 PM (v0R5T)

150 There was some undercover video of a freshman level college class about ten years ago of a young student demanding of her teacher just to tell her what to think, that the whole effort to get her to learn how to think was a waste of time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

^^Was it a set up to get the prof to admit that was the point or was the student actually that pathetic?
Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM (foa6+)

I had fill in the Word or Phrase worksheets and tests (using the exact same sentences) in two different classes. One was 5th grade Social Studies. The other was a 200 level political science class.

This was the 1970's.

Posted by: rd at September 21, 2022 03:28 PM (Z32m1)

151
On the Not-a-Recession front, I'm reading on Denninger's forum that it looks like a big wave of mass lay-offs will be starting in Oct through Nov. A lot of people will be on the chopping block.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 03:29 PM (Mzdiz)

152 Are young, stupid leftists truly unfamiliar with the concept of free speech or are they just seizing on the moment to shut down debate?

Posted by: That NLurker guy

Yes.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:29 PM (Gda1b)

153 House Judiciary GOP
@JudiciaryGOP

1h
#BREAKING: Judiciary Democrats just voted to support NON-CITIZENS voting in our elections
Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2022 03:24 PM

Coupled with all of the attention on the flood of illegals, this is particularly tone deaf, in addition to being illegal.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 03:29 PM (4p7Em)

154 Conservatism is considering mentioning Prometheus but not mentioning Prometheus while keeping threads Prometheus free.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:23 PM (LvTSG)

True Conservatism is stepping up and loudly pronouncing [P] when needed to sanctify the good and gentle citizens from the heresies of malappropriated pineapple.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 03:29 PM (MkuC5)

155 Hello Zod I hope you are having better days these days.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:29 PM (pIwnI)

156 At this point, I think monopoly or near monopoly/oligopoly "platforms" should be classified as common carriers.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 03:27 PM (Mzdiz)

I lean toward that, then I shudder at the prospect of giving government any power that I would not want my enemies to wield. I think the TX law, which gives private rights of action, empowering individual sovereigns the power, instead of government, is the wiser choice.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 03:29 PM (yHsuS)

157 Conservatism is considering mentioning Prometheus but not mentioning Prometheus while keeping threads Prometheus free.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:23 PM (LvTSG)

I think that is considered judgement.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 03:29 PM (yQpMk)

158 WNBA Players Skipping Usual Off-Season Plans to Play in Russia amid Brittney Griner's Detention

shorturl.at/ahrsT

Not because the entire Russian nation is mobilizing 300,000 soldiers.

By the way, can they Russian draft Brittany Griner in order to shorten her sentence?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 03:30 PM (lf83v)

159 It's sad when a satire website has to be the vanguard unit that leads the charge to preserve the freedom of speech.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

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Isn't that something? Where would we be without The Bee?

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 21, 2022 03:30 PM (tQL7r)

160 157 Conservatism is considering mentioning Prometheus but not mentioning Prometheus while keeping threads Prometheus free.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:23 PM (LvTSG)

I think that is considered judgement.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 03:29 PM (yQpMk)

Isn't that discerment of spirits? Or maybe it's wisdom. Humility?

Posted by: Someguy's at September 21, 2022 03:30 PM (VPWcH)

161 It's sad when a satire website has to be the vanguard unit that leads the charge to preserve the freedom of speech.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Wait. The Bee is satire?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 03:31 PM (yHsuS)

162 Liberalism is "knowing" a tomato is a vegetable and demanding anyone that disagrees be banned from ever making fruit salad.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 03:31 PM (ESjRY)

163 BREAKING: Judiciary Democrats just voted to support NON-CITIZENS voting in our elections
_____

This is the shit that needs to be thrown in the faces of rank and file Democrats.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 03:31 PM (lf83v)

164 holds a gun to a cute koala's head)

You will define 'conservatism." Do it now.
Posted by: ZOD at September 21, 2022 03:22 PM (Q/6pY)

Oh crap. Now I'm under the gun. And I'll get flamed.
Belief in smaller government Belief that too much government power is destruction Belief in free enterprise and personal freedom Belief in the necessary of private property
Freedom of expression and religion
Society is built on the foundation of the family, not the state
There is a reason traditions exist
Would I go so far as to say the state is the enemy, probably not.
Bear in mind I'm not very bright

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:31 PM (eGTCV)

165 To be clear it is about persuasion but the insidious emotionally manipulative kind, not the intellectual kind.

Not all persuasion is intellectual. Some types of persuasion originate from the "barrel of a gun", for example.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:32 PM (pIwnI)

166 It's sad when a satire website has to be the vanguard unit that leads the charge to preserve the freedom of speech.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

--------------------------

They have the means. The dirty secret that's not so secret: The US legal system is too expensive for most Americans to access.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 03:32 PM (Y5qcH)

167 (Jo Raquel Tejada) Raquel Welch's father was Bolivian.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 03:32 PM (4I/2K)

168 Neither of those decisions closed off a door to the Federal Government allowing it to simply walk through and do as it pleases without regard to the law that governs itself - a ruling saying that companies like Alphabet can't just silence people on behalf of the government would be taking a *very* shiny plaything away from the Regime.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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That is coming anyway by hook or crook. EU already imposes more and more burdens on the tech companies and the regime is coming apart at the seams. The techlords were rather stupid in allying with one party rather than the Dems as that makes them government agents for the sake of lawsuits in violation of First Amendment.

If the government directs Twitter, for sake, to ban Alex B. on covid coverage, then Twitter is jointly and severally liable for violating Alex B's constitutional rights. Google and Fakebook have done similar things and I would not doubt that Amazon or Apple has as well.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:32 PM (CXr4y)

169 Jo Raquel Tejada) Raquel Welch's father was Bolivian.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 03:32 PM (4I/2K)

So not Welsh ?

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 03:33 PM (1XoKP)

170 thanks, redridinghood.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 03:33 PM (B3oWe)

171 Not all persuasion is intellectual. Some types of persuasion originate from the "barrel of a gun", for example.
Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:32 PM (pIwnI)

I find that tasteful cleavage can be very convincing.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 03:33 PM (Y5qcH)

172 >>BREAKING: Judiciary Democrats just voted to support NON-CITIZENS voting in our elections

Once again proving the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is ~ 6 months. I suppose this is because they weren't able to cram in amnesty before the election.

Old and busted: Those Venezuelans you dropped onto Martha's Vineyard must go, no room here!

New hotness: Before you go - please fill out MA voter registration. And, uh, can I have my RBG t-shirt back?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2022 03:33 PM (I/doM)

173 I find that tasteful cleavage can be very convincing.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 03:33 PM (Y5qcH)

Side boob as changed my opinion more than once.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (yQpMk)

174 someone on an earlier thread mentioned a NJ dad going off at a PTA meeting, he vociferously condemned the woke agenda, said it wouldn't be happening at his kid's school, and smashed some dude's guitar.

I would like to know more about this event.

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (dCxaZ)

175 Is there an Ewok Pride month?

Posted by: MJ at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (zwDuR)

176 There are traditional meanings of liberal and conservative. The words get used in a general way, like right and left, for a lack of better ones.

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 03:35 PM (sn5EN)

177 Side boob as changed my opinion more than once.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (yQpMk)

"She's not Crazy crazy, she's just... Fun! Yeah!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 03:35 PM (6FeV1)

178 How does a 'platform' even have an opinion on anything? That's like saying an ocean liner has a political opinion. Now the owner(s) of the ship may have an opinion but it shouldn't affect the passengers' opinions.

Posted by: Ciampino at September 21, 2022 03:35 PM (qfLjt)

179 Free speech enthusiast Susanna Hoffs expresses herself on this subject:

https://youtu.be/xt3pqlAytIc

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:35 PM (Gda1b)

180 175 Is there an Ewok Pride month?

Posted by: MJ at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (zwDuR)

I think they're more a "day of atonement" sort of people....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 03:36 PM (6FeV1)

181 >>It's sad when a satire website has to be the vanguard unit that leads the charge to preserve the freedom of speech.

"Oui, c'est ca!"

-- Charlie Hebdo writers and cartoonist (RIP)

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2022 03:36 PM (I/doM)

182 Is there an Ewok Pride month?

Posted by: MJ at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (zwDuR)

Canceled due to Ewokpox outbreak.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2022 03:36 PM (oINRc)

183 "Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:31 PM"

Good answers!

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 03:36 PM (sn5EN)

184 I am not a conservative so much as a traditionalist. The Democracy of the Dead. Where is it written that things get to be decided by those whose sole qualification is the fact that they are still walking around?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 03:37 PM (yQpMk)

185 Is there an Ewok Pride month?

Posted by: MJ at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM

At the HQ, all months are Ewok Pride Months.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 03:37 PM (4p7Em)

186 You best get your mind right before you go stompin' around in the Prune Yard.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist

That sounds suspiciously like an RL Burnside lyric.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:37 PM (Gda1b)

187 I am a meat popsicle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

188 " It's sad when a satire website has to be the vanguard unit that leads the charge to preserve the freedom of speech."

Oh hell yes.

Posted by: Charlie Hebdo at September 21, 2022 03:37 PM (24fqN)

189 178 How does a 'platform' even have an opinion on anything? That's like saying an ocean liner has a political opinion. Now the owner(s) of the ship may have an opinion but it shouldn't affect the passengers' opinions.

Posted by: Ciampino
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Worse yet, the platforms use 'algorithms' now for most censorship. That is software uses some other software to decide what is and is not allowed on the platform with absolutely little to no human supervision.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:38 PM (CXr4y)

190 After the bear is done he turns to the Ewok and says "do you have a problem with shit sticking to your fur?" The Ewok looks confused and says "no, I've never had a problem with that" The bear smiles and says "good" and picks up the Ewok and wipes his butt with him.

The Ewok then slices the bear in two with a light sabre.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 03:38 PM (lf83v)

191 If the government directs Twitter, for sake, to ban Alex B. on covid coverage, then Twitter is jointly and severally liable for violating Alex B's constitutional rights. Google and Fakebook have done similar things and I would not doubt that Amazon or Apple has as well.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:32 PM (CXr4y)

As I have been sounding the alarm on for a year or more, the "censorship" stories of this kind are going to seem quaint compared to the surveillance tales that will be bubbling to the surface soon enough.

Censorship is brutal and required for all good dictatorships, but the surveillance that "follows" is the real screw tightener.

Prepare yourself. It's sort of like the difference between the (justified) outrage over CRT in schools vs where we are now with secret state sanctioned body mutilation of children. One will make the other seem pale and shapeless in comparison.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:38 PM (pIwnI)

192 Did you know they hold hands while they sleep?

It prevents surprise ax attacks

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 21, 2022 03:38 PM (ufFY8)

193
Posted by: rd at September 21, 2022 03:28 PM (Z32m1)

So Harvard grad?
/sarc

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2022 03:38 PM (foa6+)

194 someone on an earlier thread mentioned a NJ dad going off at a PTA meeting, he vociferously condemned the woke agenda, said it wouldn't be happening at his kid's school, and smashed some dude's guitar.

I would like to know more about this event.
Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (dCxaZ)

I'd buy him a drink.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2022 03:38 PM (W/9Bb)

195 Lizzy Warden took an axe and gave Chair Powell forty wacks.

This could get very entertaining.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 03:39 PM (MkuC5)

196 someone on an earlier thread mentioned a NJ dad going off at a PTA meeting, he vociferously condemned the woke agenda, said it wouldn't be happening at his kid's school, and smashed some dude's guitar.

It turned out that the chicken did in fact have bones.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 03:40 PM (yQpMk)

197 someone on an earlier thread mentioned a NJ dad going off at a PTA meeting, he vociferously condemned the woke agenda, said it wouldn't be happening at his kid's school, and smashed some dude's guitar.

I would like to know more about this event.
Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (dCxaZ)

Stephen Bishop was at the PTA meeting ?

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 03:40 PM (1XoKP)

198 Ewok Cruelty Month

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 21, 2022 03:40 PM (ufFY8)

199 Twitter is a tax.
Case dismissed.
- Bitch Roberts

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:40 PM (6M0Zw)

200 The 5th circuit ruling was a MAJOR event over at DU last week, but since then, it's been quiet. So instead, let's look at this for fun:

Kemp has solid lead over Stacey Abrams in new poll Kemp is leading Abrams 50% to 42%, while GOP challenger Herschel Walker leads U.S. Sen. Raphael Warnock 46% to 44%, within the poll’s margin of error.

It's because she's a woman Georgia, for some reason, has an abhorrence for female politicians. Never has elected a female governor, lieutenant governor, or US senator. I've no idea why this is true, but it is.

Senator Warnock has done a superb job But it's a choice between two black men. Herschel Walker = toxic masculinity and UGA football...an unbeatable combination. That's why his handlers moved him back to Georgia from Texas. Remember, the Pukes don't WANT the federal government to work.

I am going with it being a racist problem. After all, this is Georgia. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at September 21, 2022 03:41 PM (JCZqz)

201 Worse yet, the platforms use 'algorithms' now for most censorship. That is software uses some other software to decide what is and is not allowed on the platform with absolutely little to no human supervision.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:38 PM (CXr4y)

Oh there is plenty of supervision to make sure all the "right" people get caught in the net and the "right" people slip through. But yes the surveillance assistance provided by AI will be immeasurably powerful.

Powerful enough that one day you won't be able to have the wrong conversation in your own dwelling.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:41 PM (pIwnI)

202 200 It's because she's a woman Georgia, for some reason, has an abhorrence for female politicians. Never has elected a female governor, lieutenant governor, or US senator. I've no idea why this is true, but it is.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at September 21, 2022 03:41 PM (JCZqz)

=========

Warnock beat a woman for that seat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:42 PM (LvTSG)

203 someone on an earlier thread mentioned a NJ dad going off at a PTA meeting, he vociferously condemned the woke agenda, said it wouldn't be happening at his kid's school, and smashed some dude's guitar.

I would like to know more about this event.
Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (dCxaZ)

Me too mate!

Posted by: Pete Townshend at September 21, 2022 03:42 PM (mR6Gs)

204 200 I am going with it being a racist problem. After all, this is Georgia. 'Nuff said.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at September 21, 2022 03:41 PM (JCZqz)

==========

This...is amazing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:42 PM (LvTSG)

205 DU is right. I do NOT want the federal govt to work.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:42 PM (6M0Zw)

206 Free speech enthusiast Susanna Hoffs expresses herself on this subject:

https://youtu.be/xt3pqlAytIc
Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:35 PM (Gda1b)

Nice! The Hang On Sloopy girl also exercises her freedom of expression:
https://youtu.be/8a2o_26Uf6Q

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 03:42 PM (4I/2K)

207 Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at September 21, 2022 03:41 PM

So. Much. Stoopid.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2022 03:42 PM (4p7Em)

208 Judiciary Democrats just voted to support NON-CITIZENS voting in our elections

Posted by: redridinghood

Of course they did.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:43 PM (Gda1b)

209 Warnock beat a woman for that seat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:42 PM (LvTSG)

One black eye or two?

Or is that rayciss?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 21, 2022 03:43 PM (NKUrN)

210 When 60% of whites vote for a white it’s racism. When 98% of blacks vote for a black it’s not racism.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:43 PM (6M0Zw)

211 I'm on a FB support group for dogs that have seizures. These seem to have been triggered, in some cases, by vaccines. And every time we mention vaccines, we get the standard FB warning about getting the real info on vaccines from the CDC.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at September 21, 2022 03:43 PM (5HBd1)

212 210 When 60% of whites vote for a white it’s racism. When 98% of blacks vote for a black it’s not racism.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:43 PM (6M0Zw)

=========

When white vote for a black man of the wrong party, it's racism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

213
Well, Ace coulda been a lawyer
When he wound up school
He don't have to look good
He just have to be cruel

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 21, 2022 03:44 PM (q4WAU)

214 I also believe that standing for the truth and doing the right thing is right even if it upsets someone or hurts someone's feelings.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:44 PM (eGTCV)

215 Severe COVID-19 may be caused by 'senile' interferon response in older patients

Researchers in Germany have discovered that age-dependent impairments in antiviral interferon proteins underlie the increased susceptibility of older patients to severe COVID-19. The study, published today in the Journal of Experimental Medicine, shows that aged mice infected with SARS-CoV-2 are protected from severe disease by treatment with one of these interferons, IFN-γ.

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 03:44 PM (RHGPo)

216 Old and busted: Those Venezuelans you dropped onto Martha's Vineyard must go, no room here!

New hotness: Before you go - please fill out MA voter registration. And, uh, can I have my RBG t-shirt back?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2022 03:33 PM (I/doM)
*******
LOL. Perfect!

Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2022 03:45 PM (NpAcC)

217 Stephen Bishop was at the PTA meeting ?
Posted by: polynikes

"I gave my love a cherry. . . . "

"SMASH!! EL KABONG!!"

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 03:45 PM (LsEU/)

218 I am a meat popsicle.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

Some of us are jelly doughnuts. That's life.

Posted by: JFK at September 21, 2022 03:45 PM (4I/2K)

219 It is funny to watch the left claim GA is racist while saying don’t vote for a black guy for senate because he is retarded.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:45 PM (6M0Zw)

220 219 It is funny to watch the left claim GA is racist while saying don’t vote for a black guy for senate because he is retarded.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:45 PM (6M0Zw)

=========

Voting against Tim Scott is racism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:46 PM (LvTSG)

221 paulsperry @paulsperry

Now that new court filings document that ROBERT MUELLER did, in fact, rely on the debunked Steele/Danchenko dossier as the roadmap for his probe only to learn its core allegations of Trump-Russia "collusion" were fabricated by Danchenko, why didn't MUELLER advise the FISA Court that the information underlying his June 29, 2017, wiretap renewal on a Trump adviser was fabricated? Why didn't he admit his warrant lacked probable cause? The court has since declared it invalid. Why didn't MUELLER charge Danchenko for lying? Why didnt he report his findings about the dossier in his final report? Why'd he leave out the fact he interviewed Steele in London Sep 18-19, 2017? Why'd he cover it all up? Why isnt MUELLER under investigation for defrauding the court and obstruction?

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 03:46 PM (RHGPo)

222 Can someone explain to me how allowing non-citizens to vote preserves, protects and defends the Constitution of the United States?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 03:46 PM (lf83v)

223 By the way, can they Russian draft Brittany Griner in order to shorten her sentence?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Since she's a dude, I certainly hope so. Punishment/Labor Battalion, maybe? An old Russkie tradition, for sure.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:46 PM (Gda1b)

224 212 210 When 60% of whites vote for a white it’s racism. When 98% of blacks vote for a black it’s not racism.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:43 PM (6M0Zw)
=========
When white vote for a black man of the wrong party, it's racism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 03:44 PM

Look, you morons, it's simple. The government puts a little "R" next to the name of racist candidates for you on the ballot.

Posted by: Democrat Voter Education Program at September 21, 2022 03:46 PM (JCZqz)

225 Dilbert banned from 77 newspapers because the strip has a black guy that identifies as white but not gay yet.

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 03:46 PM (sn5EN)

226 Nice! The Hang On Sloopy girl also exercises her freedom of expression:
https://youtu.be/8a2o_26Uf6Q
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 03:42 PM (4I/2K)
........

I think she burned her bra.

Posted by: wth at September 21, 2022 03:47 PM (v0R5T)

227 222 Can someone explain to me how allowing non-citizens to vote preserves, protects and defends the Constitution of the United States?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 03:46 PM (lf83

—-

Who said it does? Who said it’s why we want it?
- Democrats

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:47 PM (6M0Zw)

228 Oh there is plenty of supervision to make sure all the "right" people get caught in the net and the "right" people slip through. But yes the surveillance assistance provided by AI will be immeasurably powerful.

Powerful enough that one day you won't be able to have the wrong conversation in your own dwelling.

Posted by: ...
--------------------
The problem with manually doing in someone as a user as a response to a government request for an opinion is that it creates a paper trial and liability. Berenson is suing Twitter based on it and California in particular allows lawsuits based on discrimination due to political opinion. That is how the Google whistleblower years ago extracted money from them as a settlement.

I think rather than supporting the regime, the censorship by private companies will drag down the companies and not really support the regime in the end because neither understand the basics of human psychology. Tell someone that something is forbidden knowledge and many will go to any ends to obtain it and spread it.

Like most human foolishness, it will cause misery and hardship for awhile before its destruction.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:48 PM (CXr4y)

229 "the Pukes don't WANT the federal government to work."

-------------------------

With the dems in charge, it never will.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 03:48 PM (Y5qcH)

230 Can't we just go back to Olivia Munn?

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2022 03:48 PM (GwxCX)

231 Warnock beat a woman for that seat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Apparently he beat one at home too.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:49 PM (CXr4y)

232 How the F can someone say they want the govt to work while at the same time vote for Stacy Abrams?

Thats tarded.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 03:49 PM (Y5qcH)

233 When the federal govt “works” I have less money, less freedom and a general worse life. So yeah I do not ever want the govt to work.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:49 PM (6M0Zw)

234 Researchers in Germany have discovered that age-dependent impairments in antiviral interferon
--------

A virus engineered to take out old people.

Doesn't sound like a wartime bioweapon to me where you would target young healthy fit men.

Huh.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:50 PM (pIwnI)

235 >> Worse yet, the platforms use 'algorithms' now for most censorship. That is software uses some other software to decide what is and is not allowed on the platform with absolutely little to no human supervision.

IIRC, yes, there is AI used.
However, there are scheduled discussion between social media companies and the Biden Admin re: what "misinformation" needs to be censored now.

IIRC, there was a Senate candidate in MA in 2020, Dr. Shiva, who (legitimately) suspected shenanigans in the tabulation of votes in one area of the state. He requested the details soon after and was told by the state's person in charge of elections they had already been purged despite being legally obligated to retain votes for 14 months on federal elections. Dr. Shiva then took to twitter and mentioned this official by name in voicing his complaint about this. And then. . . twitter banned. He challenged the ban, and in getting it overturned he discovered that there was an existing algorithm in twitter to auto-suspend anyone who mentioned this official in a tweet.

Now, that code was entered by someone, and you have to wonder if this was at her request, the DNC's. . .?!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2022 03:50 PM (I/doM)

236 230 Can't we just go back to Olivia Munn?
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2022 03:48 PM

You can, but just know I'm woke and hate you.

Posted by: Olivia Munn at September 21, 2022 03:50 PM (JCZqz)

237 Nice! The Hang On Sloopy girl also exercises her freedom of expression:
https://youtu.be/8a2o_26Uf6Q
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 03:42 PM (4I/2K)
.........

I still think somebody should have thrown a bucket of water on her.

Posted by: wth at September 21, 2022 03:50 PM (v0R5T)

238 Meow, Susanna Hoff's has a nice pelvis. Didn't know she has a bit of junk in the trunk.

And the Sloopy girl...it must be jelly cause jam don't shake like that.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 21, 2022 03:50 PM (NKUrN)

239 Nice! The Hang On Sloopy girl also exercises her freedom of expression:
https://youtu.be/8a2o_26Uf6Q
Posted by: Count de Monet

I think she burned her bra.
Posted by: wth

Attending THE Ohio State University has had the sad effect of causing me to, oft times, forget the lovely young woman dancing to the tune and instead, recall the campus and marching band.

I has the sadz.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 03:51 PM (LsEU/)

240 I would like to know more about this event.
Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2022 03:34 PM (dCxaZ)

I'd buy him a drink.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

And a steel dobro.

Posted by: Miklos suggests at September 21, 2022 03:51 PM (d+wXR)

241 232 How the F can someone say they want the govt to work while at the same time vote for Stacy Abrams?

Thats tarded.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 03:49 PM

It's destiny, man! She's, like, supposed to be the first president of earth or something. If she doesn't get elected governor, it'll mess up the time-line, dude!

Posted by: LIV at September 21, 2022 03:51 PM (JCZqz)

242 Nice! The Hang On Sloopy girl also exercises her freedom of expression:

https://youtu.be/8a2o_26Uf6Q

Posted by: Count de Monet

Great Scott! Almost put my eye out!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 03:52 PM (Gda1b)

243 Reminder: FNC has dubbed the upcoming "election" as Democracy 2022 .

Chew on that.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:52 PM (pIwnI)

244 You can, but just know I'm woke and hate you.

Posted by: Olivia Munn
_________

Okay, but what are you wearing while you berate me?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 03:52 PM (lf83v)

245 In fact a virus engineered to take out old and infirm people seems like the kind of thing that would be "accidentally" released randomly during peacetime.

Huh.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:53 PM (pIwnI)

246 A virus engineered to take out old people.

Doesn't sound like a wartime bioweapon to me where you would target young healthy fit men.

Huh.
Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:50 PM (pIwnI)

-----

That's what the vaxx was for. Then they can charge you for the weapon they take you out with.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 21, 2022 03:54 PM (/BF8M)

247
It emerged, as the Brits say, several days ago (I was busy with the wedding and all that), the Facebook was actually scanning private messages and forwarding any "anti-govt" ones to the FBI.

That right there is criminal, not to mention a violation of all sorts of civil rights.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 03:54 PM (Mzdiz)

248 I'm waiting on a return call from a guy who does remortgages. I desperately need cash flow. Please pray for a favorable response.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 03:54 PM (eGTCV)

249 NOOD

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at September 21, 2022 03:54 PM (y8NK7)

250 Susanna Hoff's is good looking and a good singer, her stripper pole moves diminish the quality of her performance.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 03:55 PM (z/NLz)

251 Even if the Snoopy girl didn't have the bouncing boobs I love those dance moves.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 03:56 PM (1XoKP)

252 244 You can, but just know I'm woke and hate you.
Posted by: Olivia Munn
_________
Okay, but what are you wearing while you berate me?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2022 03:52 PM

A slutty, low cut maid outfit, with whipped-cream on my cleavage, and fishnet stockings. But it's not for male attention, I just feel more confident when wearing it, so if you look at me, you hate women.

Unless you're rich and handsome, then please come hit on me.

Posted by: Olivia Munn at September 21, 2022 03:56 PM (JCZqz)

253 Done, Northern

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2022 03:58 PM (pIwnI)

254 245 In fact a virus engineered to take out old and infirm people seems like the kind of thing that would be "accidentally" released randomly during peacetime.

Huh.

Posted by: ...
--------------
Well if it was, they screwed it up as it is taking perfectly healthy individuals younger people via the vaxx.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2022 03:58 PM (CXr4y)

255 When the federal govt “works” I have less money, less freedom and a general worse life. So yeah I do not ever want the govt to work.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 21, 2022 03:49 PM (6M0Zw)

Not working well locally either.
The city of Puyallup WA has stopped a local sporting goods store (one of the largest in the area) from selling ammunition or firearms. This is do to a "licensing issue."
Sure it is. And yet this store has been selling these items for years.
Eff You Puyallup!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2022 03:58 PM (anj39)

256 Well this is timely, as I seem to have gotten (my very first ever ) Twitter pause for saying something "hateful" which I just don't do.

That means it has to be some thing related to Matt Walsh's Vanderbilt investigation and me telling some random that puberty blockers were still off label, or noting that many grow out of their dysphoria in so many not-hateful words, or that I used the phrase mental illness in the same sentence as transgenderism, or maybe retweeting libs of Tiktok. hard to say since I can't see the tweet they want me to delete until I give them a phone number, which will happen when effing hell freezes over.

if there's a class action sign me right up.

Posted by: Sarahw at September 21, 2022 04:01 PM (g1vnC)

257 I read Cleveland's article last night and found the Fifth Circuit's reasoning compelling if not rock solid. My take is our historical "public town square", that place where 1st amendment speech is protected, has morphed over the last two centuries and is now primarily located social and mass media which are privately owned. In practical terms, where but there can we go to use our 1st amendment rights? These private entities, when they act as platforms, historical town squares, do not automatically have the power to unilaterally usurp the Constitution. If they are allowed to do this any meaningful use of the 1st amendment is converted to, effectively, a royally granted privilege that is ripe for censorship as we have experienced. This issue is going to the Supreme Court. My hope is they go all Carthage on the social media companies and compel them to bend to our most essential right. If we lose that permanently our constitutional republic will wither away. And if I may, die in darkness.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:08 PM (/qNGG)

258 Half owned by a Canadian company.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 21, 2022 03:00

Ironically, they just very recently agreed to sell their entire remaining interest to the Canadian partners for $350 million.

I mean like the day before yesterday recent.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 21, 2022 04:15 PM (MkuC5)

259 Different legal news, but also important. Biden's vax and mask mandate for Head Start empoyees, contractors, and volunteers was struck down.

The open line of the decision is from James Madison.

And it wasn't a Promethius reference.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 21, 2022 04:18 PM (ux2U4)

260 "October 2022: The Babylon Bee sues Twitter."

ummmm... what was that thing about, you know, if it lasts for more than four hours....?

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at September 21, 2022 04:52 PM (31l4A)

261 I can easily see an originalist court ruling that this a Congressional issue to resolve.
This seems more like something that would fall into the auspices of s.230.
It would be consistent with their recent rulings.

Posted by: Mildly retarded lurker at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (+nxIh)

262 The biggest problem with this entire issue is that 1) soi-disant conservatives don't understand how computers work, and 2) soi-disant conservatives don't understand where S.230 came from and why it was necessary, and 3) soi-disant conservatives have never read S.230 anyway so they're talking out their ass.

The *second* someone uses "publisher" or "platform" in a S.230 discussion they immediately signal that they have no idea what they're talking about and can be safely ignored.

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