First-World Problems...

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We have hard water, and in spite of a reasonably effective water softening system, our glasses eventually pick up that irritating embedded staining that is impossible to remove. Oh, I have tried vinegar and other acids, but short of an Aqua Regia bath, those stains aren't coming off!

Just imagine how it makes my beer feel! How insulting that I have to pour good beer into tainted glasses!

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




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1 Being 1st

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 02:00 PM (k8B25)

2 Hi

Posted by: Ciampino - 45 caliber sword - Wayne & Schuster perhaps? at August 14, 2022 02:01 PM (qfLjt)

3 My problem is garage door spring went again. Reconnecting isn't fun

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 02:01 PM (k8B25)

4 This was a big frustration of mine when I lived in the Midwest. Terrible water everywhere.

Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (UewuT)

5 My problem is garage door spring went again. Reconnecting isn't fun
Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 02:01 PM (k8B25)

Be ever so careful Skip. Them things can be killers.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (4I/2K)

6 Maybe scrub with baking soda?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (llON8)

7 CLR. It removes those hideous marks.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (xo7ej)

8 At least you get some good suds when you soap up in the shower. Or is it just the opposite?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (27hQX)

9 Tainted glasses are probably better than glassed taints.

Posted by: NLurker at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (eGTCV)

10 Look at Mr One Percenter and his fancy "glasses!"

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 02:04 PM (u73oe)

11 >>> 5 My problem is garage door spring went again. Reconnecting isn't fun
Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 02:01 PM (k8B25)

Be ever so careful Skip. Them things can be killers.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (4I/2K)

Is the 3rdWP version of this getting a new rope for the pulley system?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 14, 2022 02:04 PM (llON8)

12 If vinegar won't get it off, it won't get in your beer either. Problem Soved.

Posted by: TXBoilermaker at August 14, 2022 02:05 PM (wTgxM)

13 8 It's the opposite. Like no soap at all.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 14, 2022 02:05 PM (e+yf1)

14 Better good beer in tainted glasses than tainted beer in good glasses.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at August 14, 2022 02:05 PM (zNcSj)

15 One good thing about SF is our water quality is as good as NYC.

Jersey? Well, depends if you like drinking water from The Passaic

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2022 02:06 PM (EZebt)

16 Disposable paper cups (and plastic cups when paper can't work) are your friend!

Posted by: Nova local at August 14, 2022 02:06 PM (exHjb)

17 FWP: A dented and reduced price single can of Spam sprung a leak in my emergency food pantry after a couple of weeks of being stored there.

The leak was contained to the top lid of the can, but whoowee what a olfactory assault!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2022 02:06 PM (4I/2K)

18 You tried the detergents that still actually have phosphates in them? One reason our "modern" dishwashers need to run for 3 hours instead of 7 minutes.

Cascade's Fryer Boiler cleaner is one - it's basically full of TSP and is what dish detergent used to be sans fragrance. Also Bubble Bandit, to a lesser degree. My in-laws have their own spring and well water which has lots of minerals. I suggested this stuff and after a month or two their glasses went from white to clear.

I just spent a fortune on a really good water softener, it's almost ridiculous as I feel lubricated in the shower. Should solve some of these issues.

I'm in the middle of my own first world problem right now - just spent a fortune on a new turntable (got my old one back from the ex who appears to have used it drunk) and now my phono stage seems to have died coincidentally? The electricity in this place sucks which doesn't help. Oh well, back to the micro tools and loupe. And maybe some day drinking while I try swapping cartridges, cables and the old turntable.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 14, 2022 02:06 PM (zB/T/)

19 Have reconnected probably each of the 4 door springs at one time or a few times.

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 02:08 PM (k8B25)

20 He pours his beer into a glass.

**snickers**

Do you hold your pinky out when you drink it, Princess?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:08 PM (sAjrs)

21 We have hard water too. It ruined 3 coffee pots, a hot water heater and a washing machine. There's no space for a water softener system either.

I feel your pain.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 02:08 PM (BFigT)

22 Vinegar will get it off but it needs the help of a soft abrasive cleaning by you.

Posted by: william ferrin at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (NJXEu)

23 Do you hold your pinky out when you drink it, Princess?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:08 PM (sAjrs)

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Snort!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (u73oe)

24 I'm thinking the title to this post needs to be changed to, Second World Problems. Because that's what we're quickly moving towards.

Third world by next year.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (Qhnrt)

25 Water here in San Diego/SoCal is basically raw material for beginning chemistry experiments in precipitation (at UCSB they did use to have you start by precipitating an amazing number of things out of the tapwater). Unsurprising, since the water's all piped/canal'd/etc in from afar.

But I have yet to see those permanent stains on most glassware - usually it's the plastic that does that. Just the French-style restaurant glasses (whatever they're actually called) seem to have picked up a frosted look.

The anti-spot stuff in the dishwasher leaves the glassware nice and shiny.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (OTzUX)

26 Just imagine how it makes my beer feel! How insulting that I have to pour good beer into tainted glasses!
Posted by: CBD

Tainted love, oh, tainted love, oh
Tainted love, oh, tainted love, oh. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (LsEU/)

27 First world problems.

In a third-would country.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (xxfnZ)

28 I have good water, but im my experience it seems the glass gets etched, there's some mineral/ion exchange going on in the surface if the glass. New glasses are the fix.

Posted by: Naked, sitting in a sensory deprivation room, smoking crack. at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (QY+6a)

29 My FWP: I'm friggin sick. Went from son to Mom to husband to me. Fever broke early this morning but I'm still feeling blah.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (DgWEj)

30 Be ever so careful Skip. Them things can be killers.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (4I/2K)


Literally. I wouldn't touch my old one. Why I like the rolling doors. Of course, when a bunch of your friends work ICU you get all the stories of Home Depot widows.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (zB/T/)

31 I could write a book about this, not on my glasses, but on my glass showers doors. Or rather, the ones in my sons' bathroom. I provided them with a squeegee and asked that they use it but alas, they didn't.

I've tried all sorts of things, including vinegar + dish soap, straight vinegar on paper towels plastered on the door, baking soda, CLR, Limeaway, 0000 steel wool, and most recently Rain-X shower door cleaner. Nothing has worked. I think the water spots are there permanently.

If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (aeePL)

32 Of course hand wash and dry is out of the question?

I have a few pounds of citric acid useful in canning and other endeavors that also has been successful for removing said encrusting yucch.

Posted by: epador at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (h8s0C)

33 I saw Glass Taint open for Hole in a club in Bellingham back in '89.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (bW8dp)

34 Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2022 02:06 PM (4I/2K)

I never store dented /damaged can foods in my prep cache. Only issue besides extreme temperature changes that can prevent canned food from lasting 20 or more years.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (27hQX)

35 P.S. New glasses-- first world fix for a first world problem.

Posted by: Naked, sitting in a sensory deprivation room, smoking crack. at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (QY+6a)

36 . . . , it's almost ridiculous as I feel lubricated in the shower.
Posted by: clutch cargo

No judgement here clutch.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (LsEU/)

37 Martini Farmer can't you have an external system, the kind where they exchange cylinders every few weeks? Attaches outside the house, is common in SoCal. Of course - no winter here - not sure what you're climate's like.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (OTzUX)

38 If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (aeePL

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Hot iron?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (u73oe)

39 That's just wrong.

Posted by: runner at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (V13WU)

40 19 Have reconnected probably each of the 4 door springs at one time or a few times.
Posted by: Skip


Are they the modern torsion kind or the older linear springs? This place has the original linear springs. They reconnect pretty easily with the door open.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (e+yf1)

41 Never saw that! Growing up, we had tannin in our water but nothing a softener wouldn't fix. It was an artesian well, so we left water pitchers standing for 10-15 minutes while the gas dissipated. Otherwise there'd be an odd taste.

My first-world problem this week went away because the weeklong conference includes lunch. I hate packing a lunch when there's no refrigerator.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - sexually harassing Morons since 10 minutes ago at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (/+bwe)

42 Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (aeePL)

Real tempered glass or the plexiglass?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (27hQX)

43 Hot iron?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (u73oe)
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I'm thinking tire iron.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:12 PM (aeePL)

44 CLR works for that stuff.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 14, 2022 02:12 PM (3ImbR)

45 I'm thinking the title to this post needs to be changed to, Second World Problems. Because that's what we're quickly moving towards.

Third world by next year.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 14, 2022 02:09 PM (Qhnrt)


Third world already here in CA. Between the tent cities and illegals - well they do go hand in hand - there's almost no place to hide. Just saw a news bit on SF people complaining about the homeless encampment in front of a school - so the first graders need to go out into the street to get around it and into the front door. And mommy is worried about the needles. So many questions. Have to wonder when hotel owners in SoCal throw in the towel - I have little doubt the vote for that will go through.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 14, 2022 02:12 PM (zB/T/)

46 Real tempered glass or the plexiglass?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (27hQX)
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Real tempered glass.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:12 PM (aeePL)

47 If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (aeePL
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Exorcism.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2022 02:13 PM (EZebt)

48 That does give me an idea...I think I have some stained things left over from my Midwestern misadventure, I should get some muriatic acid (commercial grade HCl) and try dunking them in it, see if it gets some more of the minerals off.

Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 02:13 PM (UewuT)

49 Of course hand wash and dry is out of the question?
___

Don't have a dishwasher, so I don't have the issue some are talking about here.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2022 02:13 PM (xxfnZ)

50 No judgement here clutch.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (LsEU/)


Why I love you guys.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 14, 2022 02:13 PM (zB/T/)

51 18 You tried the detergents that still actually have phosphates in them? One reason our "modern" dishwashers need to run for 3 hours instead of 7 minutes.

Cascade's Fryer Boiler cleaner is one - it's basically full of TSP and is what dish detergent used to be sans fragrance.
Posted by: clutch cargo


So I can put TSP in my dishwasher and it will actually clean properly?

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 14, 2022 02:13 PM (e+yf1)

52 I will say that compared to CBD's glass up there, my shower doors look pristine.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:13 PM (aeePL)

53 Oh and FWP #2: our AC went out Friday night, which wasn't fun when I was already running a fever. The tech came out yesterday morning and luckily it was a simple fix of a part that was under warranty, so we just had to pay for the after hours service call.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 14, 2022 02:13 PM (DgWEj)

54 Was surprised and disappointed to find a few of the batteries had leaked in a box of 60 (Ray-o-Vac, purchased in the last year, stored in a cool dry place). Had to junk about 1/4 of them. Now will need to do some more stocking up.

The batteries that now display claims about "good for 3 years" or whatever the details are - worth getting those, vs. the regular packs? Aim here is to maintain a stash for earthquakes (only probable emergency in this place), which would be rotated periodically (used).

Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2022 02:14 PM (OTzUX)

55 Exorcism.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2022 02:13 PM (EZebt)
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I wonder if cleaning them with holy water would work. Hmmmmm.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:14 PM (aeePL)

56 Third world already here in CA. Between the tent cities and illegals - well they do go hand in hand - there's almost no place to hide. Just saw a news bit on SF people complaining about the homeless encampment in front of a school - so the first graders need to go out into the street to get around it and into the front door. And mommy is worried about the needles. So many questions. ...
Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 14, 2022 02:12 PM (zB/T/)
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The only question is "Whom did you vote for?"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2022 02:15 PM (EZebt)

57 CLR works for that stuff.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 14, 2022 02:12 PM (3ImbR)


Yes CLR and Lime Away. Also run the stuff in the dishwasher to keep the minerals from building up. But it all stops working after a point when the glass gets etched.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 14, 2022 02:15 PM (zB/T/)

58 45 And mommy is worried about the needles.
Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 14, 2022 02:12 PM (zB/T/)


Mommy undoubtedly voted for needles, over and over since the 90s. So mommy gets needles!

Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 02:15 PM (UewuT)

59 I've tried all sorts of things, including vinegar + dish soap, straight vinegar on paper towels plastered on the door, baking soda, CLR, Limeaway, 0000 steel wool, and most recently Rain-X shower door cleaner. Nothing has worked. I think the water spots are there permanently.
Posted by: bluebell

No really a solution but our approach to it was to use bubble glass as the wall between the shower/wet room and the counters. It doesn't show any water spots.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2022 02:15 PM (LsEU/)

60 I get my water out of the side of a shale mountain and it isn't that hard.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 14, 2022 02:15 PM (R8uWY)

61 F' the cup. Pour in my hands for a dime.

Posted by: Chris Rock at August 14, 2022 02:15 PM (NTUk0)

62 I drink my beer out of a clay fired mug from Germany. It has a beautiful image on it. Its beige in color.
Can't see any spots.
First world.sokution!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 02:15 PM (anj39)

63 Jordan, I'm sorry to hear you're sick. Take good care of yourself and feel better soon.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:16 PM (aeePL)

64 Beer gasses is least of your problems, can you imagine what your pipes looks like ??

Posted by: runner at August 14, 2022 02:16 PM (V13WU)

65 So I can put TSP in my dishwasher and it will actually clean properly?
Posted by: quantum mechanic

Gaia weeps.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 14, 2022 02:16 PM (R8uWY)

66 Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2022 02:14 PM (OTzUX)

Triple A ? I find that all my triple a batteries I have in my prep cache will eventually leak while the other sizes of same brand and age will continue to be okay.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:16 PM (27hQX)

67 Why would I stay at the Hilton in L.A. if the "guest" in the next room over is a city-paid meth head and his skank girlfriend or friends with no place to crash?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2022 02:17 PM (EZebt)

68 If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.
Posted by: bluebell

The smell is heinous, but I've had some luck with Scrubbing Bubbles Mega Shower Foamer. It advertises itself for soap scum, but it seems to work on minerals as well. Took more than one go (on separate days due to aforementioned smell), but I was happy.

I think CLR is false advertising, it has never worked for me.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 14, 2022 02:17 PM (ftFVW)

69 No really a solution but our approach to it was to use bubble glass as the wall between the shower/wet room and the counters. It doesn't show any water spots.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2022 02:15 PM (LsEU/)
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Where were you ten years ago when I needed you, hmmmm?????

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:17 PM (aeePL)

70 I never store dented /damaged can foods in my prep cache. Only issue besides extreme temperature changes that can prevent canned food from lasting 20 or more years.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (27hQX)

Lesson learned.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2022 02:17 PM (4I/2K)

71 I have springs, they are about 2 feet long. Should look around and see what different I could use to connect it. This place is a virtual wear house

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 02:17 PM (k8B25)

72 Imagine all that "hard water" and having a body specially built to manufacture kidney stones.

If you have lime in your water and are predisposed to kidney stones- Don't drink the local water!

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 14, 2022 02:18 PM (cknjq)

73 Hot iron?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 02:11 PM (u73oe)
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I'm thinking tire iron.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:12 PM (aeePL)
***

That should work on your son.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 02:18 PM (anj39)

74 Jordan a prayer for complete snd immediate healing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2022 02:18 PM (EZebt)

75

Whink Rust Stain Remover

contains hydrofluoric acid

https://tinyurl.com/2p9f5s2h

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2022 02:18 PM (63Dwl)

76 If nothing else works, try Barnacle Buster (tge one for cooling systems). Wear gloves. It will remove heavy calcium deposits in an hour, si lightet ones should be quicker.

Posted by: John in Indy at August 14, 2022 02:18 PM (22oUN)

77 Thanks, She Hobbit. I'll give it a try.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:18 PM (aeePL)

78 If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (aeePL)


Once the glass gets etched, there's not much you can do. And after years that's what happens. You could try taking some rubbing compound (like for cars) and an orbital buffer (or elbow grease) to a section and see if that removes it. If you do wind up with new glass, put some of the glass protectant stuff on as preventative maintenance. RainX and others make stuff just for that. Squeegee every single time.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 14, 2022 02:18 PM (zB/T/)

79 Imagine all that "hard water" and having a body specially built to manufacture kidney stones.
___

That would be me.

And why I use a water filter.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2022 02:19 PM (xxfnZ)

80 I have a few pounds of citric acid useful in canning and other endeavors that also has been successful for removing said encrusting yucch.
Posted by: epador at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (h8s0C)


That's the stuff! Commercially, it's also available as Lemi Shine.

I use it for those cases where the item can't be submerged in boiling vinegar.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 14, 2022 02:19 PM (ZSK0i)

81 If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (aeePL)

Vinyl peel and stick designs?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 14, 2022 02:19 PM (7bRMQ)

82 Kilroy, no AA actually. I suppose there's always a faulty run of certain products. Should probably check to see if they were "pandemic period" production. I think (unsurprisingly) lots of quality control issues occurred in mundane products during The Great Idiocy.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2022 02:19 PM (OTzUX)

83 Bacon Wench down!

Get well soon jordan!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 14, 2022 02:20 PM (jvt6t)

84 I use the hot vinegar from cleaning my coffee pot to clean cups and the aerators from my faucets. It doesn't do anything to the tiny iron balls that form but it does get the calcium deposits.

Posted by: huerfano at August 14, 2022 02:20 PM (dTFZY)

85 62 I drink my beer out of a clay fired mug from Germany. It has a beautiful image on it. Its beige in color.


I punch a hole in the side of the can with my car key and then pop the top.

Much more efficient.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:20 PM (sAjrs)

86 Where were you ten years ago when I needed you, hmmmm?????
Posted by: bluebell

One more in a long line of women I have disappointed.

It's a gift!! LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at August 14, 2022 02:20 PM (LsEU/)

87 I drank a beer last night in a yard glass. Actually it was just 32oz but shaped like a smaller yard glass.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:21 PM (27hQX)

88 That would be me.

And why I use a water filter.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2022 02:19 PM (xxfnZ

No joke. We even filter the water we make ice cubes out of and cook with. Pita is a helluva lot easier to deal with than a pain in the gut.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 14, 2022 02:21 PM (cknjq)

89 My daughter brought home some glassware from her time in Texas.

Jet Dry. One washing and the hard water deposits were gone.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 14, 2022 02:21 PM (JVCkA)

90 Thanks for all the ideas, guys. I'm making a list.

If I could just keep the doors wet all the time they would look great. It just when I dry them that you can see the spots.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:22 PM (aeePL)

91 So I can put TSP in my dishwasher and it will actually clean properly?
Posted by: quantum mechanic


Yes, but just a tiny bit. Or, buy the stuff with it in it. Here in CA, it's nearly impossible to find real TSP. Some says TSP, but it's not tri sodium phosphate. It's Tom's Super Purgative.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 14, 2022 02:22 PM (zB/T/)

92 huerfano I use the hot vinegar from coffee maker cleaning along with old baking soda previously used for odor control in the fridge on bathroom sinks (the pipes and drain plugs), does a nice job of scrubbing some of the stuff away.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2022 02:22 PM (OTzUX)

93 Forgot all about getting TSP when I got a new dishwasher not long ago. It does a great job as it is, no problems with not cleaning thoroughly. Softened awful SoCal water used by the dishwasher, doesn't seem to matter. Just the conventional detergent seems to clean everything fine.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 14, 2022 02:24 PM (OTzUX)

94 I replaced the torsion springs on my garage door.

You buy them in pairs and replace both.

Great youtube videos for showing you step-by-step.

Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 14, 2022 02:24 PM (JVCkA)

95 For my dishwasher, I use Miele dishwasher tabs, cut in half. No spots ever.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:24 PM (aeePL)

96 Throw that glass out and go to the nearest thrift shop and buy some used drink glasses to drink out of.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 14, 2022 02:25 PM (R/m4+)

97 81 If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (aeePL)



Did you try cleaning the other side of the glass?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:25 PM (sAjrs)

98 You cannot get real TSP at the supermarket. Go to HD or Lowes.

Or any real hardware store.

Same with strike anywhere matches.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 14, 2022 02:25 PM (JVCkA)

99 If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (aeeP

Decorative door decals

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:26 PM (27hQX)

100 Real TSP is hard to get because blah blah blah special handling. I can get it, but the nearest store that carries it is one county over.

Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 02:26 PM (UewuT)

101 Did you try cleaning the other side of the glass?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:25 PM (sAjrs)
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Believe it or not, yes!

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:27 PM (aeePL)

102 If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:10 PM (aeePL)
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The windows on the east side of my house get beat up pretty bad from salt mist/spray, and the resulting damage looks just like water spots on shower doors. The only thing I've found to work on the windows is Comet or Ajax and I have to do that about twice a year.
Sounds a little harsh, but it's worth a shot I guess.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 14, 2022 02:27 PM (3ImbR)

103 > Martini Farmer can't you have an external system...
__________

Nah... winter's a too harsh. It'd have to be somewhere inside and there's no physical room for a typical system. We had 3 different contractors look at our layout and every one of them agreed, no space.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 02:27 PM (BFigT)

104 Maybe I'll just wallpaper the doors.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:27 PM (aeePL)

105 FWP: Kid changed her mind about her Dual Enrollment class for fall. Dropping the current class was easy. Signing up for a new one is a PITA, since in VA, under 18s have to go through a "whole process" and can't just go online and sign themselves in...sigh. We'll see if she gets added before the semester starts in 8 days, since they say they are overwhelmed and it might take up to 10 days...

Then I have to find out about my refund, b/c the old class was 4 credits (and I paid for it) and the new one is 3...

Posted by: Nova local at August 14, 2022 02:28 PM (exHjb)

106 Valu Rite vodka through a brita filter makes it the fancy stuff, according to my BIL. He gets some stuff up in MO that isn't from a distillery but a refinery.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 14, 2022 02:28 PM (lz5hY)

107 The only thing I've found to work on the windows is Comet or Ajax and I have to do that about twice a year.
Sounds a little harsh, but it's worth a shot I guess.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 14, 2022 02:27 PM (3ImbR)
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I hadn't thought of that - I'll give it a try! Thank you!

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:28 PM (aeePL)

108 You could try drinking an unfiltered, cloudy beer.

Posted by: NLurker at August 14, 2022 02:29 PM (eGTCV)

109 Maybe I'll just wallpaper the doors.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:27 PM (aeePL)

I was snarking but there are actually frosted shower door decorative decals.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:29 PM (27hQX)

110 The glass says Man Cave.

I'd be more concerned about using the silver plated spoon.

Posted by: Lola at August 14, 2022 02:29 PM (NIYa7)

111 95 For my dishwasher, I use Miele dishwasher tabs, cut in half. No spots ever.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:24 PM (aeePL)

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Didn't even know Miele made dishwasher tabs. We've always used Finish detergent along with Jet-Dry rinse aid. Never noticed any issues.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 14, 2022 02:30 PM (RFKzk)

112 I've considered applying Rain-X to by glass shower door to cut down on the frequency of cleaning.

Anyone ever tried that, and to what end?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:30 PM (sAjrs)

113 Turned our sprinklers on this am and two sprinkler heads went flying out of the ground and went about 20 feet up in the air. These were the two remaining, out of 35, Rain Bird residential heads. They will be replaced with the RB commercial model that cost couple bucks more and seem to last forever.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 14, 2022 02:31 PM (m7R0k)

114 Nah... winter's a too harsh. It'd have to be somewhere inside and there's no physical room for a typical system. We had 3 different contractors look at our layout and every one of them agreed, no space.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 02:27 PM (BFigT)

Couldn't you install through the outside wall and build an insulated box with a service door for it?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 14, 2022 02:31 PM (7bRMQ)

115 I have had some success with the Mr. Clean Magic Eraser soaked in vinegar. Have to take the door off and lay it flat so you can apply some elbow grease.

Posted by: TNDeplorable at August 14, 2022 02:31 PM (M2AG+)

116 I was snarking but there are actually frosted shower door decorative decals.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:29 PM (27hQX)
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I know, and thank you, but I'm sure I'd ruin those trying to clean them and yes I know they go on the outside of the shower.

Frankly, no one in my family cares about this but me so I should just let it go but *grits teeth* I can't.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:31 PM (aeePL)

117 Still car shopping, the F150 has out priced me and I'm still skeptical of that 2.3L in the Ranger.
The Tacoma has an Atkinson V6. Guess tradition is out the window.

Going to look at the Toyota Cross L, a SUV AWD available built off a Corolla. I think it's going to be too small.

Posted by: Braenyard, want numemberg trials? badger your congressman at August 14, 2022 02:32 PM (G54Y6)

118 Have you tried the product used to clean the top of glass stove tops?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:32 PM (27hQX)

119 Thanks all. I'm curious if it's the 'rona (finally) but not curious enough to get tested. They'll just tell me to do all the same stuff I'm doing anyway.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 14, 2022 02:33 PM (DgWEj)

120 Try Bar Keepers Friend. It's a miracle powder.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 14, 2022 02:34 PM (m7R0k)

121 Have you tried the product used to clean the top of glass stove tops?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:32 PM (27hQX)
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No, but I doubt it's strong enough.

Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:34 PM (aeePL)

122 I've never thought about running TSP through the dishwasher since I have a septic tank. I suppose I could try it though; my understanding is small amounts of phosphates are okay if you don't have sandy soil, it's just not something you want to be using with every load.

Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 02:34 PM (UewuT)

123 I've considered applying Rain-X to by glass shower door to cut down on the frequency of cleaning.

Anyone ever tried that, and to what end?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:30 PM (sAjrs)

Better be damned careful with that experiment.

Spill it on the shower floor and you know it'll be slicker than owl sht.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 14, 2022 02:34 PM (cknjq)

124 Use plastic disposable cups as much as possible

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 02:35 PM (k8B25)

125 119 Thanks all. I'm curious if it's the 'rona (finally) but not curious enough to get tested. They'll just tell me to do all the same stuff I'm doing anyway.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 14, 2022 02:33 PM (DgWEj)

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You can always do a home test. You'll find out, but no one in authority needs to know.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 14, 2022 02:35 PM (RFKzk)

126 You mean to say you *re-use* your glasses???!!!

Posted by: Durak Kazyol at August 14, 2022 02:35 PM (4zxRq)

127 Yes, but just a tiny bit. Or, buy the stuff with it in it. Here in CA, it's nearly impossible to find real TSP. Some says TSP, but it's not tri sodium phosphate. It's Tom's Super Purgative.
Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V


Just checked the box. It's the real stuff. Gonna give that a whirl later. If it works, I'm down to just one critical dishwashing deficit courtesy the feds: inability to dry.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 14, 2022 02:35 PM (e+yf1)

128 Maybe I'll just wallpaper the doors.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022 02:27 PM (aeePL)


You could try liquid laundry soap. I have had good luck getting the shower stall clean from the hard water scum

On the other hand you can take the doors down to a shop that has a bead blaster cabinet and ask them to frost them for you.
You can even make designs with tape or latex and ask them to gently frost around the masking if you want a pattern.
They will have to do it in the parking lot, and they might make you pay for new sand . . . Or tell you no way.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2022 02:36 PM (xhaym)

129 I bought a dishwasher that has its own water softener salt and uses jet dry. Been working great.

Posted by: Inogame at August 14, 2022 02:37 PM (ftVvF)

130 Spill it on the shower floor and you know it'll be slicker than owl sht.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 14, 2022 02:34 PM (cknjq)



Around these parts we say "Slicker than a minnow's dick", but your advice is duly noted.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:37 PM (sAjrs)

131 You can always do a home test. You'll find out, but no one in authority needs to know.
Posted by: No One of Consequence


You need to do at least 4 tests to be > 90% confident you're not getting a false negative. I'm not kidding.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 14, 2022 02:37 PM (e+yf1)

132 Thing is, the antibodies. If it is the current Rona you will know that your body is not only making antibodies for all current and future Rona's but multiples of other antibodies that will keep you healthy in the future.

My doc said (paraphrasing) it would be good for people to catch it now.

Posted by: Braenyard, want numemberg trials? badger your congressman at August 14, 2022 02:37 PM (G54Y6)

133 My Aunt used to date the guy who would go out to the cemeteries to bead blast new information into the stones: a couple would buy a joint stone and leave one half unfilled when one of them died. He would go out and finish the stone at the grave at need.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 14, 2022 02:38 PM (xhaym)

134 75

Whink Rust Stain Remover

contains hydrofluoric acid

https://tinyurl.com/2p9f5s2h

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 14, 2022 02:18 PM (63Dwl)
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HF etches glass so DO NOT USE ON GLASS.

Posted by: Ciampino - what is the buid-up? at August 14, 2022 02:38 PM (qfLjt)

135
Just imagine how it makes my beer feel! How insulting that I have to pour good beer into tainted glasses!

Posted by: CBD


One shudders to think what it does to your beer goggles!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 14, 2022 02:38 PM (ZvxPV)

136 You can buy straight tsp powder at home depot or Amazon.

I use it to clean workout clothes and my barbecue grill grates.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 14, 2022 02:38 PM (i0wNm)

137 Toothpaste with baking soda.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:39 PM (27hQX)

138 I bought a dishwasher that has its own water softener salt and uses jet dry. Been working great.
Posted by: Inogame

What is this DW with own softener black magic and where do I get some?!

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 14, 2022 02:39 PM (ftFVW)

139 I buy Mr Coffee pots on EBAY by the dozen

It's the one thing I can't protetct

but it's like 4 units a year at 16 bucks per

you have to have good softenng system and split the drinking water from the domestic

my water is ultra hard

most spring water is

but it is delicious, right out of the ground

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:40 PM (us2H3)

140 128 Maybe I'll just wallpaper the doors.
Posted by: bluebell at August 14, 2022
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There are home steam cleaners ($100 - $400) that would clean your glass with little effort on your part.

Posted by: Braenyard, want numemberg trials? badger your congressman at August 14, 2022 02:40 PM (G54Y6)

141 IKEA glasses are inexpensive. Goodwill has glassware if you don't mind a mish-mash.

We change our glasses every so often. I also found that the dishwasher will cause this when the water is hard because I let the salt run out of the softener.

So we don't wash valuable things in the dishwasher.

Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2022 02:40 PM (sh7Ef)

142 >>> 122 I've never thought about running TSP through the dishwasher since I have a septic tank. I suppose I could try it though; my understanding is small amounts of phosphates are okay if you don't have sandy soil, it's just not something you want to be using with every load.
Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 02:34 PM (UewuT)

Does the dishwasher (and/or the washing machine for that matter) go into the septic tank or do you have a grey water outlet?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 14, 2022 02:41 PM (llON8)

143 Berkshire Spring water company gets their water form the same hill as mine

haven't lost a taste test with a yankee yet

of course, they have no taste, so it aint really fair

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:42 PM (us2H3)

144 Back in the day we used to use gasoline to clean stubborn stuff.

Just sayin'. Personally I wouldn't, but YMMV.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 02:42 PM (BFigT)

145 Worst water I remember was when I lived in Maryland. When you showered it was next to impossible to rinse the shampoo out of your hair.

Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at August 14, 2022 02:42 PM (tM5h4)

146 Everclear, every day.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 02:43 PM (0OP+5)

147 141 IKEA glasses are inexpensive. Goodwill has glassware if you don't mind a mish-mash.

We change our glasses every so often. I also found that the dishwasher will cause this when the water is hard because I let the salt run out of the softener.

So we don't wash valuable things in the dishwasher.
Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2022 02:40 PM (sh7Ef)

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I'll second the recommendation for IKEA glasses. Inexpensive, but decently heavy, so they don't feel cheap.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 14, 2022 02:43 PM (RFKzk)

148 What is this DW with own softener black magic and where do I get some?!
Posted by: She Hobbit at August 14, 2022 02:39 PM (ftFVW)

Bosch has a few models with those set ups.
My model is from their Thermador line. But they have several versions and models. I admit to spending more than I wanted to for the model I got, but it was in stock and the cheaper Bosch model that was pretty much the same was not.

Posted by: Inogame at August 14, 2022 02:44 PM (ftVvF)

149 Had an aerobic septic system, never ran anything through it that would upset the metabolism.

Watered the trees and grass with the washing machine and kitchen water.

Posted by: Braenyard, want numemberg trials? badger your congressman at August 14, 2022 02:44 PM (G54Y6)

150 Just put them in your dishwasher on Extra-Extra hot. Add the vinegar after the machine has time to get the water up to scald your hair off and it'll work fine. Even gets the deposits off my tupperware.

Posted by: Joe Wagner at August 14, 2022 02:45 PM (EwF4y)

151 142 >>> 122 I've never thought about running TSP through the dishwasher since I have a septic tank. I suppose I could try it though; my understanding is small amounts of phosphates are okay if you don't have sandy soil, it's just not something you want to be using with every load.
Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 02:34 PM (UewuT)

i'm no expurt but I believe most septic soils are sandy, at least somewhat

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:46 PM (us2H3)

152
102 If anybody has any other recommendations besides new glass, I'd love to hear them.
Posted by: bluebell

A hammer? Then you can get a cute shower curtain with cowboy cats riding unicorns.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 14, 2022 02:46 PM (U2p+3)

153 Just imagine how it makes my beer feel! How insulting that I have to pour good beer into tainted glasses!


You just know those beers are sitting in there scheming. "Heh, heh, heh. We just gonna sit here and then about 3AM we're gonna make this guy get up to pee!"

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 02:46 PM (anj39)

154 144 Back in the day we used to use gasoline to clean stubborn stuff.

Just sayin'. Personally I wouldn't, but YMMV.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 02:42 PM (BFigT)

yeah we did too

of course, with liberal amount of hot iron

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:47 PM (us2H3)

155 The only question is "Whom did you vote for?"
Posted by: San Franpsycho
*****
No. For whom did you vote?

Now excuse me while I pour my craft beer into a new fancy glass and drink with extended pinky, proles.

Posted by: Durak Kazyol at August 14, 2022 02:47 PM (4zxRq)

156 Throw the old glasses out and buy new ones. Problem solved.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 14, 2022 02:47 PM (Qhnrt)

157 I just changed our dishwasher because the old one was 18 years old and started making noises like the main bearings were going out.

KitchenAide because the old one did well. The new one. However, has a hose bib connection that interferes with a plastic drip tray. Had to buy an adapter and I nixed the plastic tray. Will probably form a tray from the old units stainless front door.

Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2022 02:49 PM (sh7Ef)

158 142 Does the dishwasher (and/or the washing machine for that matter) go into the septic tank or do you have a grey water outlet?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 14, 2022 02:41 PM (llON


Dishwasher and kitchen sink are tied together and go to septic. Not sure about laundry, there is a gray-water outflow nearby but it may only be for the laundry sink. Most of the pipes are buried in the foundation so it's hard to know for sure what goes where.

Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 02:49 PM (UewuT)

159 The sky went from relatively clear to solid overcast and my solar charger went from 470 to 170 watts while my little solar generator provides power for the kitchen refrigerator-freezer. What's up with that, Gaia?

Posted by: mrp at August 14, 2022 02:50 PM (6eRlp)

160 I bought 6 tall cocktaii glasses in SOHO in the late 60's

they had a pair of active dice molded in the bottom

one of the things that I regret losing in my divorce

fucking cow

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:50 PM (us2H3)

161 Worst water I remember was when I lived in Maryland. When you showered it was next to impossible to rinse the shampoo out of your hair.

Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at August 14, 2022 02:42 PM


Our worst water was in Kentucky. Clean the shower with everything you can think of and the next time you take a shower there are calcium deposits everywhere. We got to cleaning the showers with purple kaboom two times a week.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 14, 2022 02:50 PM (bVYXr)

162
I'm sorry to tell you that your glass has Monkeystains.

Don't let it touch your lips.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 14, 2022 02:51 PM (5NkmN)

163 I tried punching a hole in my beer can with my key fob. Nada.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 14, 2022 02:51 PM (nnp+f)

164 when you get older than dirt

funky glasses are the least of your probs

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:54 PM (us2H3)

165 Have you tried Bon Ami?

Posted by: Zhytamyr at August 14, 2022 02:54 PM (xRToj)

166 No. For whom did you vote?

Now excuse me while I pour my craft beer into a new fancy glass and drink with extended pinky, proles.
Posted by: Durak Kazyol at August 14, 2022 02:47 PM (4zxRq)

Its almost noon.
I voted for a cool German Hofbrau in my German mug. Two actually.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 02:55 PM (anj39)

167 165 Have you tried Bon Ami?
Posted by: Zhytamyr at August 14, 2022 02:54 PM (xRToj)

have been able to locate that

Posted by: Cherchez at August 14, 2022 02:55 PM (us2H3)

168 Here's another first world problem:

https://nitter.it/JackPosobiec/status

/1558786566046220288

Posted by: Biden's Dog at August 14, 2022 02:56 PM (odVni)

169 CBD the dishwasher manuals say that using too much dishwasher detergent with too small of a load will create etching and cloudiness on the glass. I have been using the extra special cascade pods for a couple years now and eliminated most of the etching issues from glassware. I pack my dishwasher full though, don’t prerinse. The dishwasher is 25 years old and pretty basic.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 14, 2022 02:56 PM (y75aP)

170 And there go the margins.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 02:57 PM (u73oe)

171 gin with moscato and a pearl onion

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:57 PM (us2H3)

172 163 I tried punching a hole in my beer can with my key fob. Nada.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 14, 2022 02:51 PM (nnp+f)



The drawbacks of modernity.

In the good old days you could start your car with a flathead screwdriver and roll up your window with vice grips.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:58 PM (sAjrs)

173 Can't say for sure, but it may be that these aren't really stains. Over time, the glass itself may have been etched by the pH of the water and the grit found in most dishwashing detergents. It it doesn't clear up with a good soaking in CLR, then the problem is most likely not hard water stains.

Posted by: Doomer at August 14, 2022 02:58 PM (pX+O8)

174 In the good old days you could start your car with a flathead screwdriver and roll up your window with vice grips.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:58 PM (sAjrs)

you had a screwdriver AND windows

fancy schmancy

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:59 PM (us2H3)

175 CBD, if you're around, could you break the link in 168 in half please?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 02:59 PM (u73oe)

176 I voted for a cool German Hofbrau in my German mug. Two actually.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 02:55 PM (anj39)

Did you say a cool German hausfrau?

Posted by: NLurker at August 14, 2022 02:59 PM (eGTCV)

177 In the good old days you could start your car with a flathead screwdriver and roll up your window with vice grips.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:58 PM (sAjrs)

Done it many times on my '68 Dart and '72 Bel Air.

Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2022 03:00 PM (sh7Ef)

178 We got Bon Ami but would last some time, started looking for it about a year ago and don't thin seen it since

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 03:00 PM (k8B25)

179 In the good old days you could start your car with a flathead screwdriver and roll up your window with vice grips.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:58 PM (sAjrs)

Open your car door...start to push it down the driveway and then pop the clutch - that's how we did it as teenagers.

Posted by: Boswell at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (+Cgut)

180 159 The sky went from relatively clear to solid overcast and my solar charger went from 470 to 170 watts while my little solar generator provides power for the kitchen refrigerator-freezer. What's up with that, Gaia?
Posted by: mrp at August 14, 2022 02:50 PM (6eRlp)


I like the idea of solar as off-the-grid aid, and I do have a small panel and battery for emergency use, but East TN is way too cloudy and forested for it to be practical. We do have lots of nuke and hydro though, so if when our federal frenz finally manage to self-immolate the entire economic system we should still have a decent amount of local power generation capability.

We probably have more spikes and outages than anywhere else in the USA though, because while the power plants work fine the distribution infrastructure has always been rather second world. Thanks, municipal utilities boards! And they wonder why I'm not enthusiastic about muni internet service...

Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (UewuT)

181 My good glassware, like my good knives and my balls, I wash by hand

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (us2H3)

182 We have hard water, and in spite of a reasonably effective water softening system, our glasses eventually pick up that irritating embedded staining that is impossible to remove. Oh, I have tried vinegar and other acids, but short of an Aqua Regia bath, those stains aren't coming off!

Just imagine how it makes my beer feel! How insulting that I have to pour good beer into tainted glasses!

Exactly. Not mention what mineral build up is doing to the hot heater heater, the kitchen appliances, the washer and dryer, the plumbing, and your clothes. But screwing up beer glasses, friggn' criminal which is why I a few months ago put in a highly effective water softener system.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (FF+On)

183 In the good old days you could start your car with a flathead screwdriver and roll up your window with vice grips.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:58 PM (sAjrs)

you had a screwdriver AND windows

fancy schmancy
Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:59 PM (us2H3)
***
Ooooooo!!!! Vice grips. You rich people kill me.
I had pliers with a rubber band.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (anj39)

184 168 Here's another first world problem:

https://nitter.it/JackPosobiec/status

/1558786566046220288

Posted by: Biden's Dog at August 14, 2022 02:56 PM (odVni)
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That actually is very funny, and sad at the same time.

Posted by: Ciampino - some of the young'uns may even ask who is that at August 14, 2022 03:02 PM (qfLjt)

185 181 My good glassware, like my good knives and my balls, I wash by hand

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (us2H3)

You have two sets of balls?--everyday balls and fancy ones?

Posted by: NLurker at August 14, 2022 03:02 PM (eGTCV)

186 I travelled round trip from Birmingham to Atlanta by popping the clutch in 3rd. Always parked pointing down hill.

Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2022 03:03 PM (sh7Ef)

187 You have two sets of balls?--everyday balls and fancy ones?
Posted by: NLurker at August 14, 2022 03:02 PM (eGTCV)

doesn't everyone ??

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 03:03 PM (us2H3)

188

Why yes, I am at the outlet mall, why do you ask?

Posted by: The Mule and the Credit Card at August 14, 2022 03:03 PM (CCwYN)

189 you had a screwdriver AND windows

fancy schmancy
Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:59 PM (us2H3)
***
Ooooooo!!!! Vice grips. You rich people kill me.
I had pliers with a rubber band.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (anj39)



Well I wasn't gonna waste a perfectly good trash bag and duct tape on the window.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 03:04 PM (sAjrs)

190 Did you say a cool German hausfrau?
Posted by: NLurker at August 14, 2022 02:59 PM (eGTCV)


No.
But i like how you're thinking.
After she brings me the bier, with the proper head, she could whip up a nice schnitzel sammich!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:04 PM (anj39)

191 Ooooooo!!!! Vice grips. You rich people kill me.
I had pliers with a rubber band.
Posted by: Diogenes

You assholes had cars? I had a bicycle with solid rubber tires.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 14, 2022 03:04 PM (U2p+3)

192 My good glassware, like my good knives and my balls, I wash by hand

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (us2H3)

I soak 'em in Palmolive.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2022 03:04 PM (4I/2K)

193 I hate when you scrub the hell out of your sink and plumbing fixtures and two days later they're covered in lime and look like shit again.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 14, 2022 03:04 PM (WHt4f)

194 Can't read the thread without scrolling back and forth. See y'all in the food thread.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 03:04 PM (u73oe)

195 Worst water I remember was when I lived in Maryland. When you showered it was next to impossible to rinse the shampoo out of your hair.

Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at August 14, 2022 02:42 PM


Our worst water was in Kentucky. Clean the shower with everything you can think of and the next time you take a shower there are calcium deposits everywhere. We got to cleaning the showers with purple kaboom two times a week.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS)


Las Cruces water comes out as chucks of mineral rocks. It is so bad I had to wear a helmet in the shower until I put in a water softener system. Totally worth the price plus I get to lug around bags of salt as bonus.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 14, 2022 03:05 PM (FF+On)

196 The NYC water is so good nobody drinks it. I put TSP in my OxiClean.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 14, 2022 03:05 PM (eEQ2s)

197 193 I hate when you scrub the hell out of your sink and plumbing fixtures and two days later they're covered in lime and look like shit again.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 14, 2022 03:04 PM (WHt4f)
You put the lime in the coconut. Sheesh.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:06 PM (0OP+5)

198 Weeds man weeds. No not weed. Weeds. Why can't scientists take the dna that makes weeds grow and make a grass that grows like that? It's 2022 dammit.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 14, 2022 03:06 PM (8GBH4)

199 173 Can't say for sure, but it may be that these aren't really stains. Over time, the glass itself may have been etched by the pH of the water and the grit found in most dishwashing detergents. It it doesn't clear up with a good soaking in CLR, then the problem is most likely not hard water stains.

Posted by: Doomer at August 14, 2022 02:58 PM (pX+O
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That!
DW detergents are very alkaline so as to remove fats and proteins on dishes. Alkali will slowly dissolve glass particularly soda glass common in drinking vessels. Borosilicate glass, such as Pyrex, not so much hence its use in laboratories.

Posted by: Ciampino - Pyrex is good for heating of course at August 14, 2022 03:07 PM (qfLjt)

200 We have fantastic water in Seattle. Right out of the tap. At least we do for now. I'm sure they will find a way to mess that up as well.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 14, 2022 03:08 PM (U2p+3)

201 You assholes had cars? I had a bicycle with solid rubber tires.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 14, 2022 03:04 PM (U2p+3)


Well, once you get rid of those training wheels, you'll find the bike's tires have air in them.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:09 PM (anj39)

202 CLR Cleaner is your go to better living through modern chemistry miracle for nuking hard water scum. Using it for dishes is entertaining since this stuff will kill you; not recommended at all. Nope. Don't even think of it.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 14, 2022 03:09 PM (FF+On)

203 City water tastes like bleach one day and iodine the next so we filter it, or drink bottled water.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:10 PM (0OP+5)

204 With the passerage of the Inflataion Reduction and Climate Change bill we be pruod to announce the Brattleboro Flatuanous Accumerlation Reduction and Trap Tube program is be in full affect again. We our doing are part to end Globill Climate Change. What has you cummunity done to end this crisis caused by Trump ?

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 14, 2022 03:10 PM (66jxp)

205 I bought my solar rig for a side-line sharpening biz. Solar/battery power is a lot more amenable with snooty farmers' markets than a gas generator. With enough battery storage, I can run enough electricity to power a 12v refrigerator freezer, phones and router for a couple of days.

Posted by: mrp at August 14, 2022 03:11 PM (6eRlp)

206 Yeah I know, put one cup of Wild Turkey 101 per quart of water.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:11 PM (0OP+5)

207 Shower doors: Take a dryer sheet from packaging and run it under a faucet until damp. Then use it in a circular motion to clean.

Posted by: Lola at August 14, 2022 03:11 PM (NIYa7)

208 181 My good glassware, like my good knives and my balls, I wash by hand

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (us2H3)
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For balls a helping hand can be nice.
Did you vaseline your old plain leather footballs?

Posted by: Ciampino - Only paring, carving, special knives get hand treatment at August 14, 2022 03:11 PM (qfLjt)

209 Yeah I know, put one cup of Wild Turkey 101 per quart of water.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:11 PM (0OP+5)



Kind of weak cocktail, but whatever.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 03:13 PM (sAjrs)

210 When does an occasion become fancy enough to break out the fancy balls?

Posted by: NLurker at August 14, 2022 03:14 PM (eGTCV)

211 183 In the good old days you could start your car with a flathead screwdriver and roll up your window with vice grips.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:58 PM (sAjrs)

you had a screwdriver AND windows
fancy schmancy
Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:59 PM (us2H3)
***
Ooooooo!!!! Vice grips. You rich people kill me.
I had pliers with a rubber band.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (anj39)
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Oooo rubber band, boy fancy stuff. We had to use sheep guts.

Posted by: Ciampino - Only in Yorkshire at August 14, 2022 03:14 PM (qfLjt)

212 We had to have the heating elements in our hot water heater replaced. The top one was salvageable by soaking it's lime encrusted element in CLR for about an hour. Other than some light pitting it looked brand new. The plumbers doing the work were even impressed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 03:14 PM (BFigT)

213 181 My good glassware, like my good knives and my balls, I wash by hand

Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (us2H3)


When I clean my balls I typically the scrubber. Short rapid strokes usually do the trick. But with my putter, long smooth strokes along the shaft are best for getting it clean.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:16 PM (anj39)

214 What's hard water?

Posted by: CloseTheFed at August 14, 2022 03:17 PM (LeNk3)

215 CLR clears hard water stains, but it is expensive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2022 03:17 PM (BBOj+)

216 @199

Sadly, Pyrex is no longer borosilicate.

But in 1998, Corning, the company which made Pyrex, sold the brand to World Kitchen LLC. World Kitchen decided to stop the manufacture of borosilicate glass, and since then, Pyrex sold in the United States is made of tempered soda-lime glass, which does not handle heat as well as borosilicate glass does.

Because of its durability and resistance to chemical changes, borosilicate glass has traditionally been used in chemistry labs and industrial settings, as well as for kitchenware and premium wine glasses. Because of its superior quality, it is often priced higher than soda-lime glass.

Just like Corning made vintage PYREX, today's French made PYREX is still Borosilicate Glass.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 14, 2022 03:17 PM (/NCI4)

217 When I change water heater elements. I turn off the water, releive system pressure and then change the element. Only 1 quart of water will drip out, when carefully preparing. Beats waiting to drain the tank.

Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2022 03:17 PM (sh7Ef)

218 211 183 In the good old days you could start your car with a flathead screwdriver and roll up your window with vice grips.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 14, 2022 02:58 PM (sAjrs)
you had a screwdriver AND windows
fancy schmancy
Posted by: REDACTED at August 14, 2022 02:59 PM (us2H3)
Ooooooo!!!! Vice grips. You rich people kill me.
I had pliers with a rubber band.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:01 PM (anj39)
Oooo rubber band, boy fancy stuff. We had to use sheep guts.
Posted by: Ciampino - Only in Yorkshire at August 14, 2022 03:14 PM (qfLjt)
Jawbone of an ass.
Sam A. Nazerite

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:18 PM (0OP+5)

219

You had tires on your bike? Luxury!

We had to fill the rims with a cement mixture made up of ground bones stolen from the cemetery and horse jizz.

Posted by: The Mule and the Credit Card at August 14, 2022 03:18 PM (CCwYN)

220 At least you get some good suds when you soap up in the shower. Or is it just the opposite?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (27hQX)

I have very hard well water here at stately Peon Manor, and I find Zest brand bar soap far and away the best for lathering in it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2022 03:19 PM (BBOj+)

221 So glad all my pyrex is older than 1998.

Posted by: Infidel at August 14, 2022 03:19 PM (mn1Pi)

222 Just like Corning made vintage PYREX, today's French made PYREX is still Borosilicate Glass.
Posted by: Archimedes

The arcane things people know at AoSHQ is some kind of wonderful. And just like that I will only buy French PYREX is given the chance.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 14, 2022 03:20 PM (FF+On)

223 Hand wash your beer glasses, heathen.

Posted by: DocW at August 14, 2022 03:21 PM (c3dDP)

224 Try Zep Shower and Tile Cleaner. Works on shower glass, but have not tried it on a drinking glass.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at August 14, 2022 03:23 PM (Azujd)

225 205 I bought my solar rig for a side-line sharpening biz. Solar/battery power is a lot more amenable with snooty farmers' markets than a gas generator. With enough battery storage, I can run enough electricity to power a 12v refrigerator freezer, phones and router for a couple of days.

Posted by: mrp at August 14, 2022 03:11 PM (6eRlp)
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Just curious,
By router you meant Internet? How do you get on the Internet if there is no power in the area?
In the dialup/DSL days we used the phone company's power.

Posted by: Ciampino - there's always satellite phone connection at August 14, 2022 03:23 PM (qfLjt)

226 In case no one mentioned it yet, OO steel wool is very effective at getting rid of hard water deposits. Combined with some minor acid or alkaline.

Posted by: Not My Reel Name at August 14, 2022 03:24 PM (jE276)

227 220 At least you get some good suds when you soap up in the shower. Or is it just the opposite?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 14, 2022 02:03 PM (27hQX)

I have very hard well water here at stately Peon Manor, and I find Zest brand bar soap far and away the best for lathering in it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2022 03:19 PM (BBOj+)
Irish spring or Ivory in ColoSprngs, so we use it in ETEX too

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:25 PM (0OP+5)

228 214 What's hard water?

Posted by: CloseTheFed at August 14, 2022 03:17 PM (LeNk3)
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Hail.

Posted by: Ciampino -- there's always satellite phone connection at August 14, 2022 03:25 PM (qfLjt)

229 225 Just curious,
By router you meant Internet? How do you get on the Internet if there is no power in the area?
In the dialup/DSL days we used the phone company's power.
Posted by: Ciampino - there's always satellite phone connection at August 14, 2022 03:23 PM (qfLjt)


YMMV but many telco stations have backup generators. Critical infrastructure and all that.

Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 03:25 PM (UewuT)

230 That does give me an idea...I think I have some stained things left over from my Midwestern misadventure, I should get some muriatic acid (commercial grade HCl) and try dunking them in it, see if it gets some more of the minerals off.
Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 02:13 PM (UewuT)

Nitric acid. From my school chemistry, there are practically no cations that form insoluble nitrate salts. And the soluble salts that do form can act as fertilizer. Chlorides tend to kill plants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2022 03:26 PM (BBOj+)

231 Hard water? Yeah, that's a problem where we live. We're still trying to decide whole house water filter or water softener.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:28 PM (5pTK/)

232 Muriatic acid is used for cleaning brick after they are laid.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:30 PM (0OP+5)

233 I don't see anything wrong with that glass.

Posted by: Mr. Magoo at August 14, 2022 03:30 PM (PiwSw)

234 I'd sell the house and leave the glasses there.

Posted by: I Mean at August 14, 2022 03:31 PM (9FBGz)

235 I have an industrial size softener to get rid of. I can't get myself to bring it to the dump. But it has to go. Dealing with craig's list and FB marketplace is too painful. People suck.

Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2022 03:31 PM (sh7Ef)

236 232 Muriatic acid is used for cleaning brick after they are laid.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:30 PM (0OP+5)
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Do not use on balls after you are laid.

Posted by: Ciampino --- there's always satellite phone connection at August 14, 2022 03:31 PM (qfLjt)

237 Is it a FWP if I think the US should have had several desalination plants by now? I'd expect them on the West coast but TX could likely use one and could sell to NM and AZ too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 14, 2022 03:32 PM (llON8)

238 235 I have an industrial size softener to get rid of. I can't get myself to bring it to the dump. But it has to go. Dealing with craig's list and FB marketplace is too painful. People suck.
Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2022 03:31 PM (sh7Ef)
Advertise as removed from Mar-A-Lago.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:33 PM (0OP+5)

239 Better good beer in tainted glasses than tainted beer in good glasses.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at August 14, 2022 02:05 PM (zNcSj)

That's a very good point!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2022 03:33 PM (XIJ/X)

240 >>>I don't see anything wrong with that glass.

Posted by: Mr. Magoo

>Nothing a blowtorch wouldn't fix.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (WHt4f)

241 I missed yesterday's hobby thread...I had to work. It happens. But I added bad sketches to the Boswell Regrettable Horde Portraits! There's now Kalisto with the Pumpkin Haircut, the Real James Madison (misspelled, of course!), and LadyL.

I have no idea what any of you look like. You could be guys, you could be ette's - but I'll never know.

https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w

Posted by: Boswell at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (+Cgut)

242 I plug the internet router into my solar power generator.

Posted by: mrp at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (6eRlp)

243 234 I'd sell the house and leave the glasses there.

Posted by: I Mean at August 14, 2022 03:31 PM (9FBGz)
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This is of course the proper First World answer to this First World problem.
You Sir, win today's Internet.

Posted by: Ciampino - we have a winner at August 14, 2022 03:35 PM (qfLjt)

244 I saw Zep Shower and Tile Cleaners open for Alicia Keys at the St Lucia Jazz Festival back in '12.

Posted by: goatexchange at August 14, 2022 03:35 PM (APPN8)

245 237 Is it a FWP if I think the US should have had several desalination plants by now? I'd expect them on the West coast but TX could likely use one and could sell to NM and AZ too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 14, 2022 03:32 PM (llON

I think it's a serious infrastructure problem. FWIW, the water is fine after desal. It's what we drank in Saudi, and we had no problems with it. The downside there was the desal plant was in Dahran, and when it "went out," (undisclosed terror incident) Riyadh was without water for almost a week. That became dire, but it shouldn't be a problem here in the US.

Posted by: Moki at August 14, 2022 03:36 PM (JrN/x)

246 HF etches glass so DO NOT USE ON GLASS.
Posted by: Ciampino - what is the buid-up? at August 14, 2022 02:38 PM (qfLjt)

Can I say that I doubt Whink contains HF? It will etch glazed porcelain, if it etches glass, and it sure does that. But HF is incredibly toxic, and kills you in an excruciatingly painful fashion.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2022 03:36 PM (BBOj+)

247 I have no idea what any of you look like.

Posted by: Boswell at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (+Cgut)

Weasel is a very sexy 20-something range babe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2022 03:36 PM (XIJ/X)

248 Thanks CBD!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 03:37 PM (u73oe)

249 Rep. Liz Cheney’s (R-WY) husband, Philip Perry, is partner at a law firm that represents Hunter Biden in the Department of Justice’s grand jury probe regarding “tax issues.”

Breitbart

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2022 03:38 PM (6euYL)

250 And CBD is really Rosie ODonnell

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 14, 2022 03:38 PM (U2p+3)

251 YMMV but many telco stations have backup generators. Critical infrastructure and all that.
Posted by: CppThis at August 14, 2022 03:25 PM (UewuT)

Yes, and by the same backup process which allows natural gas distributors to push fuel through their pipelines while the electric power grid is off-line.

Posted by: mrp at August 14, 2022 03:38 PM (6eRlp)

252 And CBD is really Rosie ODonnell
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 14, 2022 03:38 PM (U2p+3)

I get that. +1

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2022 03:39 PM (4I/2K)

253 241 I missed yesterday's hobby thread...I had to work. It happens. But I added bad sketches to the Boswell Regrettable Horde Portraits! There's now Kalisto with the Pumpkin Haircut, the Real James Madison (misspelled, of course!), and LadyL.

I have no idea what any of you look like. You could be guys, you could be ette's - but I'll never know.

https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w

Posted by: Boswell at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (+Cgut)
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Great talent there. I could only ever do landscapes and seascapes. No people or animal closeups.

Posted by: Ciampino - imagination at August 14, 2022 03:40 PM (qfLjt)

254 We get our water from the Mississippi River. The intakes are down deep where the good stuff is. When I first got here I saw the head of the Sewer and Water Board assure everyone that there were no cancer germs in our water. I was so relieved.

Posted by: Javems at August 14, 2022 03:41 PM (AmoqO)

255 When Cheney loses on Tuesday will she:

Thank her constituents for the honor of representing them and how out gracefully

Or

Epic flounce

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 03:41 PM (u73oe)

256 Boswell you're very talented

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2022 03:42 PM (EZebt)

257 241 I missed yesterday's hobby thread...I had to work. It happens. But I added bad sketches to the Boswell Regrettable Horde Portraits! There's now Kalisto with the Pumpkin Haircut, the Real James Madison (misspelled, of course!), and LadyL.
I have no idea what any of you look like. You could be guys, you could be ette's - but I'll never know.
https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w
Posted by: Boswell at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (+Cgut)

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:42 PM (0OP+5)

258 I, of course, look like Harvey Korman's Great Gazoo.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 14, 2022 03:42 PM (4I/2K)

259 249 Rep. Liz Cheney’s (R-WY) husband, Philip Perry, is partner at a law firm that represents Hunter Biden in the Department of Justice’s grand jury probe regarding “tax issues.”

Breitbart

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 14, 2022 03:38 PM (6euYL)
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Shocker!!
She has a husband?

Posted by: Ciampino - the woman at checkout with 2 insolent kids at August 14, 2022 03:43 PM (qfLjt)

260 Boswell, you are very talented. Made me laugh.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:43 PM (0OP+5)

261 When Cheney loses on Tuesday will she:

...

Epic flounce

+Endorse the Democrat on the spot.

Posted by: Methos at August 14, 2022 03:43 PM (kOpft)

262 Nap time over

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 03:44 PM (k8B25)

263 Anyone recall when water departments were nervous about trihalomethanes? I seem to recall the problem was due to an interaction between chlorine and pvc pipe. Though, a quick search says they're caused by the interaction between chlorine and organic matter.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:45 PM (5pTK/)

264 237 Is it a FWP if I think the US should have had several desalination plants by now? I'd expect them on the West coast but TX could likely use one and could sell to NM and AZ too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 14, 2022 03:32 PM (llON
_______________

I live within a few miles of one, built at no small cost ($1 billion) by our burg. It's been operational for several years now, and produces 50 million gallons of water per day (enough to serve 400,000 people). So SD county does not have a water problem, any more than the northernmost counties in CA do.

Yet the idiots in Sacramento are imposing STATE-WIDE water restrictions, because the effing liberals are too effing stupid to do the same thing. The motivation is that the most liberal-infested areas - SF and LA - are short of water, so everybody must be, right?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 03:45 PM (VnqPw)

265 Boswell very good work

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 03:46 PM (k8B25)

266 Anyone recall when water departments were nervous about trihalomethanes? I seem to recall the problem was due to an interaction between chlorine and pvc pipe. Though, a quick search says they're caused by the interaction between chlorine and organic matter.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:45 PM (5pTK/)
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Is this about peeing in the kiddie pool?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 14, 2022 03:46 PM (EZebt)

267 254 We get our water from the Mississippi River. The intakes are down deep where the good stuff is. When I first got here I saw the head of the Sewer and Water Board assure everyone that there were no cancer germs in our water. I was so relieved.

Posted by: Javems at August 14, 2022 03:41 PM (AmoqO)
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I thought all the crap sinks to the bottom .... eventually!

Posted by: Ciampino - why carbs and oysters are not Kosher at August 14, 2022 03:47 PM (qfLjt)

268 Cheney will try running as independent like moocowsky. And mccornhole will shove money at her.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:47 PM (0OP+5)

269 I have no idea what any of you look like. You could be guys, you could be ette's - but I'll never know.

https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w
Posted by: Boswell at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (+Cgut)


Good lord!
Ottoman guy is included!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:47 PM (anj39)

270 I live within a few miles of one, built at no small cost ($1 billion) by our burg. It's been operational for several years now, and produces 50 million gallons of water per day (enough to serve 400,000 people). So SD county does not have a water problem, any more than the northernmost counties in CA do.

Yet the idiots in Sacramento are imposing STATE-WIDE water restrictions, because the effing liberals are too effing stupid to do the same thing. The motivation is that the most liberal-infested areas - SF and LA - are short of water, so everybody must be, right?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 03:45 PM (VnqPw)
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Yeah, San Diego did what it needed to do to solve their water problems, via desalination and increased water storage. If memory serves, San Diego footed the bill rather that wait for CA to get the job done.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:48 PM (5pTK/)

271 https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w
Posted by: Boswell at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (+Cgut)

The Martini Farmer one is super-great!

Posted by: m at August 14, 2022 03:49 PM (euHgA)

272 HF etches glass so DO NOT USE ON GLASS.
Posted by: Ciampino - what is the buid-up? at August 14, 2022 02:38 PM (qfLjt)

Can I say that I doubt Whink contains HF? It will etch glazed porcelain, if it etches glass, and it sure does that. But HF is incredibly toxic, and kills you in an excruciatingly painful fashion.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2022 03:36 PM (BBOj+)
_____________

HF only etches glasses above a certain concentration (where it also causes intensely painful burns that only respond to treatment with calcium salts). Below that, it gets glass incredibly clean. I've washed lab glassware with dilute HF, and have been astonished at how clean the glass comes out, so much so that the painted on fiducial marks on, e.g., graduated cylinders, floats right off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 03:50 PM (VnqPw)

273 Boswell, I really like the one where it looks like teenage daughter is having a, shall we say, conversation? with dad.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:50 PM (5pTK/)

274 Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 03:37 PM (u73oe)

My pleasure. I just got back from 3+ hours of a qualification course for my Concealed Carry License.

If it weren't a state mandate it would have been fun, but I am fuming that I had to be tested to exercise my rights.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2022 03:50 PM (XIJ/X)

275 I think there is a desalination plant in HB as well.

Posted by: Infidel at August 14, 2022 03:50 PM (mn1Pi)

276 > The Martini Farmer one is super-great!
_____________

Disturbingly accurate.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 03:50 PM (BFigT)

277 I have no idea what any of you look like. You could be guys, you could be ette's - but I'll never know.

https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w

Posted by: Boswell at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (+Cgut)


Don't waste your time on me, but for the record I am 6'2" and 240 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal. Frequently compared to Adonis.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:51 PM (anj39)

278 Yeah, San Diego did what it needed to do to solve their water problems, via desalination and increased water storage. If memory serves, San Diego footed the bill rather that wait for CA to get the job done.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:48 PM (5pTK/)
______________

All true. But we face water restrictions now too, despite having taken adult action to address the problem when it was still only a potential - but foreseeable one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 03:51 PM (VnqPw)

279 Water hasn't been the same since the commies put fluoride into it.

Posted by: John Birch Society at August 14, 2022 03:52 PM (KFhLj)

280 My trick is set timer to 25 minutes and stick to it.
Was out cold too, would have been a hour if I didn't set timer.

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 03:52 PM (k8B25)

281 HF only etches glasses above a certain concentration (where it also causes intensely painful burns that only respond to treatment with calcium salts). Below that, it gets glass incredibly clean. I've washed lab glassware with dilute HF, and have been astonished at how clean the glass comes out, so much so that the painted on fiducial marks on, e.g., graduated cylinders, floats right off.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 03:50 PM (VnqPw)

If you get it into your innards, your bones will dissolve. I think it is just too damned dangerous to be put in a consumer product that idiots can buy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2022 03:53 PM (BBOj+)

282 >I have no idea what any of you look like. You could be guys, you could be ette's - but I'll never know.



hey no biggie
most people when they meet me, ask me if I'm in the NFL, or movies

Posted by: DB at August 14, 2022 03:53 PM (geLO8)

283 I have no idea what any of you look like. You could be guys, you could be ette's - but I'll never know.

https://tinyurl.com/5xpvhu5w

Posted by: Boswell at August 14, 2022 03:34 PM (+Cgut)


Don't waste your time on me, but for the record I am 6'2" and 240 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal. Frequently compared to Adonis.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 14, 2022 03:51 PM (anj39)
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Same height as you, but, I make money on the side during Halloween, posing as a skeleton. I make Ichabod Crane look massive.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:53 PM (5pTK/)

284 Some say I look like a young Paul Newman. Others say more like Clint Eastwood. Both are right!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 03:53 PM (u73oe)

285 59 I've tried all sorts of things, including vinegar + dish soap, straight vinegar on paper towels plastered on the door, baking soda, CLR, Limeaway, 0000 steel wool, and most recently Rain-X shower door cleaner. Nothing has worked. I think the water spots are there permanently.
Posted by: bluebell

This is worst case scenario and chances are the pets' water bowl is fouled and worse your Berkey water filter is clogged .

The magic solution is called Sanivac. Dissolves mineral deposits ON CONTACT. I get it at the grocery store. See it at the hardware stores too.

Posted by: Mongerel at August 14, 2022 03:53 PM (qOuJj)

286 263 Anyone recall when water departments were nervous about trihalomethanes? I seem to recall the problem was due to an interaction between chlorine and pvc pipe. Though, a quick search says they're caused by the interaction between chlorine and organic matter.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:45 PM (5pTK/)
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I love that generalized trihalomethanes.
There is only ONE example that would be of "concern" to idiots and that's trichloromethane, known more commonly as chloroform, CHCl3.

Posted by: Ciampino - the quantities would be so minute but it's the EPA at August 14, 2022 03:54 PM (qfLjt)

287 Yeah, San Diego did what it needed to do to solve their water problems, via desalination and increased water storage. If memory serves, San Diego footed the bill rather that wait for CA to get the job done.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:48 PM (5pTK/)
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In addition to which, San Diego gets a lot of the remaining water from the Colorado River. Colorado has not suffered a drought, so we have 99% of the water we ever have. The water restrictions demanded by the liberal-infested area come from a low of snow on the Sierras - so not relevant to us. Meanwhile, the delta smelt take up HALF of the water that goes to the liberal-infested areas. Cut back on this three-inch baitfish? Not a chance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 03:55 PM (VnqPw)

288 Boswell, your sketches are a lovely imagining of the personalities that hang around AoSHQ. A few years ago, in Denver, I got to see a show of Rembrandt sketches. It was remarkable the life he was able to elicit from a few lines on paper; your work made me recall that. Just in case: I have pants which I can't find. This is only a problem when I go out in public.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 14, 2022 03:55 PM (FF+On)

289 All true. But we face water restrictions now too, despite having taken adult action to address the problem when it was still only a potential - but foreseeable one.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 03:51 PM (VnqPw)
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I honestly don't know how San Diego can really limit their water usage any further because I believe San Diego has gone heavily toward desert landscaping. Anyway, here's hoping SD ignores CA and refuses to enforce.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:55 PM (5pTK/)

290 FWIW the "class" I took here in Kentucky for my CCW was about 6 hours long. We're now a Constitutional Carry state. My current CCW is good until '24 and unless KY changes their carry law I won't renew it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 03:56 PM (BFigT)

291 If you get it into your innards, your bones will dissolve. I think it is just too damned dangerous to be put in a consumer product that idiots can buy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 14, 2022 03:53 PM (BBOj+)
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Absolutely. After all, we have to warn idiots not to drive with sunscreens in their windshields.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 03:57 PM (VnqPw)

292 274 Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 03:37 PM (u73oe)

My pleasure. I just got back from 3+ hours of a qualification course for my Concealed Carry License.

If it weren't a state mandate it would have been fun, but I am fuming that I had to be tested to exercise my rights.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2022 03:50 PM (XIJ/X)
Now now, tell us all about it on the gubthread.

Posted by: Eromero at August 14, 2022 03:57 PM (0OP+5)

293 My current CCW is good until '24 and unless KY changes their carry law I won't renew it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 03:56 PM (BFigT)

Current NJ law says two years, but I'll bet Murphy the crook will try to get that changed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 14, 2022 03:57 PM (XIJ/X)

294 We proudly hand wash our most favored beer glasses. The rest get trashed on a periodic basis. Our water softener guru told us that dishwashing detergent and our softened water will etch the glass making them look dirty. No amount of cleaning will bring it back to its original glory. Thank goodness for our favorite discount dollar store.

Posted by: Shakarone at August 14, 2022 03:58 PM (KGCDr)

295 I honestly don't know how San Diego can really limit their water usage any further

If you bathe more often than street people, Gauleiter Newsome will send you to the camps.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 14, 2022 03:59 PM (KFhLj)

296 I honestly don't know how San Diego can really limit their water usage any further because I believe San Diego has gone heavily toward desert landscaping. Anyway, here's hoping SD ignores CA and refuses to enforce.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:55 PM (5pTK/)
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As indicated, we don't have a water shortage, as some local politicians have admitted. We're just dragged behind the idiots who failed to make provision for water collection, storage, and desalination.

Thanks, Jerry Brown, you shithead. Your first move on becoming governor in 1975 was to cancel a comprehensive water infrastructure plan that was approved and funded. Meanwhile, the state's population has doubled. Sometimes it seems that the Northeast must be unpopulated by now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 03:59 PM (VnqPw)

297 I carry mental images of the folk who comment here, which I'm sure are about 99% wrong.

I'd be lucky to get the species correct.

As for myself, some people say I look like the Space Cowboy, some say the Gangster of Love, some people even say I look like Maurice or even the Pompatus of Love.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 14, 2022 04:00 PM (5NkmN)

298 FWIW the "class" I took here in Kentucky for my CCW was about 6 hours long. We're now a Constitutional Carry state. My current CCW is good until '24 and unless KY changes their carry law I won't renew it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Reciprocity with other states might be worth having a KY CCW.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 14, 2022 04:01 PM (FF+On)

299 We proudly hand wash our most favored beer glasses. The rest get trashed on a periodic basis. Our water softener guru told us that dishwashing detergent and our softened water will etch the glass making them look dirty. No amount of cleaning will bring it back to its original glory. Thank goodness for our favorite discount dollar store.
Posted by: Shakarone at August 14, 2022 03:58 PM (KGCDr)
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Not sure, but I don't think it's etching, but rather tenaciously adherent mineral deposits.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 04:01 PM (VnqPw)

300 FOOD FIGHT NOOD

REALLY, FOOD FIGHT NOOD

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 04:01 PM (k8B25)

301 CNN, today: A disastrous megaflood is coming to California, experts say, and it could be the most expensive natural disaster in history.

Combat climate change.

Posted by: Lola at August 14, 2022 04:01 PM (NIYa7)

302 As for myself, some people say I look like the Space Cowboy, some say the Gangster of Love, some people even say I look like Maurice or even the Pompatus of Love. Posted by: naturalfake

That is a huge relief. I was leaning towards Marc Zukerberg in the Metaverse.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 14, 2022 04:02 PM (FF+On)

303 my FWP:
I bought sea salt & vinegar potato chips instead of sea salt potato chips

all is lost

Posted by: DB at August 14, 2022 04:03 PM (geLO8)

304 > Reciprocity with other states might be worth having a KY CCW.
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Good point. I only have to do some online forms, send in a current photo and pay the fee.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 14, 2022 04:04 PM (BFigT)

305 CNN, today: A disastrous megaflood is coming to California, experts say, and it could be the most expensive natural disaster in history.
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I saw that. What bullshit. That's a news story? Nothing has happened; the operative word in that story was "COULD." The other operative words was "EXPERTS."

Notice they specify "natural" disaster. Otherwise, F. Joe Biden's "election" would dwarf this potential "megaflood" as a disaster.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 14, 2022 04:04 PM (VnqPw)

306 A little bit of me wants California to set sail off the coast

Posted by: Skip at August 14, 2022 04:06 PM (k8B25)

307 I honestly don't know how San Diego can really limit their water usage any further because I believe San Diego has gone heavily toward desert landscaping. Anyway, here's hoping SD ignores CA and refuses to enforce.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 14, 2022 03:55 PM

Paul Joseph Watson talks about Europe and UK enforcing energy usage and telling people to take shorter showers. Businesses enforcing the energy usage by making sure the thermostat in buildings does not go below a certain temperature for AC and does not go above a certain temperature for heating.

I'm sure the WEF and federal/state/local government elites have the same plans for here in USA.

It Wasn't An Accident: https://bit.ly/3pjqDlv

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 14, 2022 04:13 PM (Do5/p)

308 Tainted gla-ass whoah oah oah tainted gla-ass ...

Posted by: lkreinitz at August 14, 2022 04:39 PM (ZFhHe)

309 255 When Cheney loses on Tuesday will she:

Thank her constituents for the honor of representing them and how out gracefully

Or

Epic flounce
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 14, 2022 03:41 PM (u73oe)

You have to ask?

Posted by: Fox2! at August 14, 2022 04:42 PM (qyH+l)

310
As for myself, some people say I look like the Space Cowboy, some say the Gangster of Love, some people even say I look like Maurice or even the Pompatus of Love.

Posted by: naturalfake at 04:00 PM

I snortlaffed all the way down to my spleen. Ow.

Posted by: Mongerel at August 14, 2022 04:50 PM (0TAF3)

311 As if the elites are living by the same rules....

Posted by: SFGoth at August 14, 2022 05:20 PM (KAi1n)

312 For hard water deposits on glasses, turn off the "dry" setting on your dishwasher. Using a dedicated dishwasher product that promises to reduce the hard water, together with letting the glasses drip dry, keeps them from going gray. We have very high calcium content here (that is, what comes out of our taps is whitewash) but our clear glasses are still clear.

Posted by: anon at August 14, 2022 05:21 PM (IculA)

313 CBD, we used to use Lemi-Shine in the dishwasher. It helped a lot. Then someone else bought the water company and they treat the water now so it isn't as much of a problem.
Bluebell, I am with she-hobbit. I use Scrubbing Bubbles Mega Shower Foamer. Spray it on, let it work for a bit, then use a nylon scrubber. I too, wish Mr. WeeKreek would squeegee but alas, he will not. Only the first day after I clean it, when I beg but after that all bets are off.

Posted by: WeeKreekFarmGirl at August 14, 2022 05:28 PM (a22Qy)

314 BTW, that countertop looks like Avonite coppermine.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 14, 2022 05:49 PM (KAi1n)

315
bon ami is your friend for cleaning up such stained glasses.

Posted by: ArthurK at August 14, 2022 05:51 PM (FcT1v)

316 Aqua Regia. Pfft. Kid stuff.

Chlorine trifluoride. That'll get the job done.

Posted by: Captain Ned at August 14, 2022 06:45 PM (XIfux)

317 We bought a new home and didn't run rinse aid the first month. Once we added it the glasses were all F-dd.. Ditch the rinse aid.

Posted by: SmileyGG at August 14, 2022 06:52 PM (77cT/)

318 As for the shampoo issue. Sea Salt shampoo is what you need. It's not perfect but it helps a lot.

Posted by: SmileyGG at August 14, 2022 06:53 PM (77cT/)

319 CBD I lived in NH for 10 years in the 90s. They don’t call it the granite state for nothing. We had extremely hard water that caused the same problems on glassware and inside our dishwasher. If they still make Tang, I would run a cycle with Tang instead of DW detergent at least 1x per month. Put the glassware in while you run the cycle. The citric acid in the Tang cleans the glasses and the inside of the DW.

Posted by: Mrs. Emma Peel at August 14, 2022 07:00 PM (3RKjj)

320 Muratic acid man…

Posted by: Underdog at August 14, 2022 07:59 PM (EuWJ7)

321 "We have hard water too."

Our water in a Boston suburb is rather flaccid.

Posted by: noam sayen at August 14, 2022 08:20 PM (B4F4q)

322 Try Tea Tree oil...

Posted by: Erik Mason at August 15, 2022 04:37 AM (YL49p)

323 Have you never heard of CLR?

Posted by: Duke of URL at August 15, 2022 08:17 AM (+/ZTO)

324 You can get TSP, even in California.

If you use it in a dishwasher use one quarter teaspoon. That's right: 1/4 TSP.

This was is in my high efficiently dishwasher, but even if you have an old seventies hotpoint I would not use more than a 1/4 TSP. It is powerful stuff.

Case in point: I experimented with various doses and when I reached 3/4 TSP the dishwasher proof decals on my glasses melted. God knows what that amount of TSP did to my internals, but so far two years later my dishwasher still works.

The 1/4 TSP of TSP won't get all the built up lime on glasses the first time, but if you stick to it they will get clean.

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