Revealed: The Criminal Chris Wray Gave the Senate the Finger Claiming He Had an Unmissable Plane He Had to Catch.<br>That Plane -- Paid for By the Taxpayers -- Was Taking Him To His Weekend Vacation Venue, Of Course.

Revealed: The Criminal Chris Wray Gave the Senate the Finger Claiming He Had an Unmissable Plane He Had to Catch.
That Plane -- Paid for By the Taxpayers -- Was Taking Him To His Weekend Vacation Venue, Of Course.

Julie Kelly

@julie_kelly2

Holy shit great find @mirandadevine "The luxury FBI Gulfstream Wray uses was recorded on Flightradar24 making the one hour and 12 minute flight later that afternoon to bucolic Saranac Lake in the Adirondacks, which happens to be a favorite summer destination since his childhood."

Chris Wray cut off U.S. Senators to "catch a flight" which turned out to be taking his taxpayer-paid G5 to a weekend vacation.
Hello @SenJudiciaryGOP

When is enough finally enough?

Miranda Devine:

Christopher Wray's disingenuous testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee Thursday, before he left early on the FBI's private Gulfstream 550 jet, speaks volumes about the need to defund the FBI -- or at least dump its unctuous director.
Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley and his team of Republicans expected to have the chance to ask a second round of questions.
Grassley pleaded for just an extra 21 minutes.
But Wray took an early mark, dismissing the committee's constitutional obligation to ensure he answers questions under oath to ensure the FBI complies with the law and is accountable to the American people.
What was so urgent that he had to leave after just three and a half hours?
Was he taking a long weekend in the Adirondacks where his family has a summer home?
It's worth examining the exchange with Grassley in detail.
"We just heard a half hour ago about you having to leave at 1:30," Grassley grizzled. "We were going to have seven minutes [each] for first round [questions and] three-minute second rounds. I've got seven people on my side of the aisle want their additional three minutes. Is there any reason we couldn't accommodate them for 21 minutes?"
Senate Judiciary Committee ranking member Sen. Chuck Grassley Grassley pointed out that Wray has a private jet and can leave any time.
Wray replied smoothly: "Senator, I had a flight that I'm supposed to be high-tailing it to outta here, and I had understood that we were going to be done at 1:30, so that's how we ended up where we are."

"If it's your business trip you've got your own plane. Can't it wait a while?" he asked
Wray replied, "To be honest, I tried to make my break as fast I could to get right back out here."
Grassley, "You took more than five minutes."
Wray laughed and the silence that followed only emphasized the disrespect to all senators, but especially to Grassley, the president pro tempore emeritus of the Senate.

Note the Criminal Wray refused the specify the purpose of the flight, and refused to deny that it was for "business" purposes, as Grassley wrongly assumed.

He let a Senator continue believing a falsehood, so that no one questioned him about his insistence on leaving work early on a Friday again to go on vacation.

Wrong! He left early for the weekend on a Thursday. Had to be wheels up by 1:30 pm, he insisted.

...
And every appearance a waste of time, that simply showcased that Wray is a master of evasion. On some of the most serious questions of national security and the politicization of the FBI, Wray had nothing to say. Like Mister Magoo, he sees nothing.

Devine cites may examples of that, but here are a couple:

Wray also refused to agree with one senator's assertion that Hunter Biden's laptop was not "Russian disinformation."
He refused to admit that the Russia collusion hoax -- in which the FBI treated seriously palpably false allegations that then-candidate Donald Trump was a Russian agent -- was in fact a "hoax".
He refused to agree with Sen. Blackburn that Hunter Biden's laptop was not "Russian disinformation," and didn't respond to whistleblower allegations of an FBI coverup of derogatory information related to the Bidens in October 2020.
He refused to explain to Sen. Ted Cruz why the FBI had blacklisted patriotic historical American symbols such as the Molly Ross flag, the Gadsden Flag and the Gonzales battle flag as "militia violent extremism" in training documents.
When Sen. Josh Hawley asked why the FBI was "snooping around the concealed carry permit records" of Missourians, he had nothing.

Devine's evidence for the Criminal Wray's use of a government plane to fly him to a vacation destination? She pulled the flight records and reports it went to Saranac Lake in the Adirondacks, the Criminal Wray's childhood vacation spot.

The Gulfstream 5 took a similar weekend jaunt to the Adirondacks in June, again ferrying the Criminal Wray to a weekend getaway in the hills.

Wray ensured his testimony was useless, but if he did cut short his testimony to go on vacation at a time when his agency is under fire from all sides, then that is an act of disrespect and insubordination which requires a firm rebuke, or what is the point of Senate oversight?

Blackburn: "Do you agree that Russian collusion was a hoax?"

Wray: "I wouldn't use that terminology."

Blackburn: "Do you agree that Hunter Biden's laptop was not Russian disino?"

Wray: "I can't comment on that." pic.twitter.com/h74Wfyeotb
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) August 4, 2022

Posted by: Ace at 12:13 PM

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1 First, James!

Posted by: Q at August 08, 2022 12:13 PM (yikp0)

2 F*ck that guy in particular.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 12:13 PM (DRSnL)

3 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at August 08, 2022 12:13 PM (bG9Yb)

4 Well get right on this!

*supervisor whispers in ear of new employee*

Never mind.

Posted by: newly minted IRS agent at August 08, 2022 12:14 PM (5pTK/)

5 Freak.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 08, 2022 12:15 PM (zB/T/)

6 Wray ensured his testimony was useless, but if he did cut short his testimony to go on vacation at a time when his agency is under fire from all sides, then that is an act of disrespect and insubordination which requires a firm rebuke, or what is the point of Senate oversight?

Schumer and Peelousy both publicly admitted they're afraid of IC.

"What oversight? We don't need no stinkin' oversight"

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 12:15 PM (dCxaZ)

7 The deep state knows it can act with impunity.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 08, 2022 12:15 PM (N1tpc)

8 The stench of DC is growing to intolerable levels.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 08, 2022 12:15 PM (anj39)

9 Grassley is a drooling imbecile.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 12:15 PM (m7R0k)

10 When is enough enough?

No republican politician knows the meaning of "enough."

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 08, 2022 12:15 PM (H8QX8)

11 Not holding my breath . . .

Posted by: Catherine at August 08, 2022 12:15 PM (ZSsrh)

12 Congress can pass individual budget and appropriations bills by department and dare Biden to hold the DOD bill up because the DOJ bill isn't what the FBI wants.

They won't because the GOPe approves of the actions of Chris Wray in making them out to be weaklings.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

13 A corrupt government isn't going to reform itself, you knuckleheads.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at August 08, 2022 12:16 PM (llON8)

14 Abolish The FBI.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 08, 2022 12:16 PM (2CExO)

15 Make the sob punch a timeclock.

Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2022 12:16 PM (AwYPR)

16 We need to go Vegas smoke shop owner on these parasites.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 08, 2022 12:16 PM (zB/T/)

17 "Criminal Chris Wray Gave the Senate the Finger"

We all have days when we want to finger the senate.

Posted by: Check Out gp's Rehoboth Beach Tan! at August 08, 2022 12:16 PM (qpX6U)

18
Yeah, why do these ham-and-egging, selfless civil servants need a G5 luxury jet?

Fuckin' A, man. If they believed half the bullshit they spew through Hannity's gaping Irish maw, they'd fly coach on frontier, to at least keep up appearances.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 08, 2022 12:17 PM (IXpV7)

19 An agency with someone that corrupt at it's head, yeah, not salvageable. Fire everyone, use the building to house the illegals currently being dropped off in DC and make sure "want fries with that?" is the only question former FBI agents are allowed to ask.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 12:17 PM (5pTK/)

20 You ain't seen nothing yet.

Posted by: IRS at August 08, 2022 12:17 PM (m7R0k)

21 Must be nice.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at August 08, 2022 12:17 PM (kPy0C)

22 Does the Senate have a Sergeant At Arms? Maybe try flexing a bit, you old desiccated husks of former men.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 08, 2022 12:17 PM (4I/2K)

23 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2022 12:18 PM (jbPkE)

24 Honestly I think Wray showed the proper amount of respect to the Senate. They're scum, pedos, corrupt mobsters, and worthless. Yes he lied to them and was caught out terribly (and looked miserable in the process) but there's no price to pay. If the Senate won't DO anything, what's the point of the hearings? If the Senate won't DO anything, why care what they say or ask you? They're beneath contempt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:18 PM (Ivdso)

25 So to recap, the FBI Director and the FBI Head of Cybersecurity both essentially told GOP Senators, when questioned, to go f**k themselves with their mothers d**ks and bounced.

We don't need a decimation of the FBI, we need an extermination.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2022 12:18 PM (n/8Ck)

26 NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. Wray could whip out his cock and shake it defiantly at the Senate and nothing would happen. And even if something did happen, he would be replaced by someone just as bad if not worse. Hey, is Comey still around? These scumbolic federal agencies like the FBI and DOJ cannot be reformed or rehabilitated. They must be completely and totally destroyed and the ground salted where they once stood.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 08, 2022 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

27 It's not "he refused to answer."

His refusal to answer is the answer. And it's, "FU, I work for the Party, not the people."

Super Lawyer Cruz-- and the whole "Judiciary" Committee,
are horrible at basic deposition techniques.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2022 12:19 PM (hfGW2)

28 25 So to recap, the FBI Director and the FBI Head of Cybersecurity both essentially told GOP Senators, when questioned, to go f**k themselves with their mothers d**ks and bounced.

We don't need a decimation of the FBI, we need an extermination.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2022 12:18 PM (n/8Ck)

==========

Did he not treat the GOPe with the proper level of respect?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 12:19 PM (LvTSG)

29 Disband the FBI. Ban everyone down to the janitors from federal service. Pass any legitimate functions they may have to the US Marshalls.

Posted by: Hawkpilot (Ace-Certified best nic) at August 08, 2022 12:19 PM (x/Zt2)

30 I am in contempt of the Senate. House too.

And the President and VP.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 12:19 PM (UuD2k)

31 Isn't this just a repeat of Obama-folk's playbook?

"Talk to the hand, and be happy with what we let you see:"

The bureaucracy is lawless and is unbound by anything, they think they are above the law because they (the political appointees) are never held to anything.

Posted by: Scott_T at August 08, 2022 12:19 PM (2waQ7)

32 G550? Make the lying scrunt fly commercial. Down the back with the deplorables.

Then push him out the rear door.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 08, 2022 12:19 PM (vcv8B)

33 To quote a noted second-tier & cruel blogger:

Must. Be. Nice.

Wray's gonna need another year of FBI white privilege sensitivity training in Maui ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 12:19 PM (dWj6f)

34 I thought from the nood notice this post was supposed to be about Dr. Goodhead. I see no Dr. Goodhead.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 08, 2022 12:19 PM (906pl)

35 Who promoted Wray again? I forgot.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 12:20 PM (m7R0k)

36 Why does the FBI have a private Gulfstream 5? Why is the director permitted to use it for his own personal use?

Seems like there are A LOT of questions that need to be answered about how the FBI uses taxpayer money...

Of course, as we discussed in today's Morning Report, taxes are really a means of oppressing the masses, rather than providing the government with resources that will support the general welfare of the people.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 08, 2022 12:20 PM (YIVH2)

37 Taking a vacation when problems arise is the standard practice in this illegitimate regime.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 08, 2022 12:20 PM (lTGtQ)

38 The GOP is currently cowering in fear, and, there may be some justification for that fear.

The GOP knows the current DOJ isn't above sending agents to raid their homes on the flimsiest of pretexts.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 12:20 PM (5pTK/)

39 The FBI needs to be abolished.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 08, 2022 12:20 PM (MeDDJ)

40 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 08, 2022 12:20 PM (T4tVD)

41 When I was a yute growing up the DC Metro area, G-men were heroes.

Now they are ideological political commie bastard hacks.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 08, 2022 12:20 PM (4I/2K)

42 Uh oh. You better believe that somebody's getting a strongly worded letter about this!

Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2022 12:20 PM (nfrXX)

43 You know, I no longer automatically dismiss the conspiracy “theories” about the Kennedy assassination.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (atmen)

44 Super Lawyer Cruz-- and the whole "Judiciary" Committee,
are horrible at basic deposition techniques.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2022 12:19 PM (hfGW2)

It's all posturing for the rubes.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (H8QX8)

45 The GOP's only purpose is to provide the illusion of opposition to the deep state. In reality, there is no opposition.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (UuD2k)

46 Yeah, why do these ham-and-egging, selfless civil servants need a G5 luxury jet?

Fuckin' A, man. If they believed half the bullshit they spew through Hannity's gaping Irish maw, they'd fly coach on frontier, to at least keep up appearances.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 08, 2022 12:17 PM (IXpV7)

They can't. And they don't need to. Not any longer. They love wiping their ass in our faces since they learned they can get away with it. Just like if these Bozos really, truly believed in the horrors of climate change, they'd be spending their fortunes to save the planet, they'd do actual zoom meetings and insist everyone else do the same, and they sure AF wouldn't be buying $50M homes on the beach.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (zB/T/)

47
An agency with someone that corrupt at it's head, yeah, not salvageable.

-----

Forget about Wray. Look at Trask - the closeted homo, wife-beating 'roid monster who rigged up the Whitmer entrapment, and the field office that supported him.

Special Agent Richard Trask is the *TRUE* face of these Top Men and Women of the FBI, 99% of whom are just doing their jobs to keep Americans safe and are very disgusted by the corruption on the 7th floor. Disgusted, I tell you. Disgusted.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (IXpV7)

48 Afternoon.

Dear Republicans,

You know how the left *spit* was screaming to defund the police for a while? Time to get in on that action and advocate to defund the FBI. Fuck the FBI. *Spit*

Sincerely,
Moi

Posted by: Robert at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (J3Ghh)

49 I no longer automatically dismiss the conspiracy “theories” about the Kennedy assassination.

I am at that place about 9/11. I know that it wasn't a conspiracy or faked but... damn what CAN you believe from the government? Anything?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (Ivdso)

50 If the Senate won't DO anything, what's the point of the hearings?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:18 PM (Ivdso)

They have to protect their phony baloney jobs.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (DRSnL)

51 and so it continues

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's continuing at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (MeDDJ)

52 Miranda Devine has been living up to her name.

Posted by: Caliban at August 08, 2022 12:22 PM (HgGBT)

53 mumbles about decimation and Praetorians.

Posted by: DaveA at August 08, 2022 12:22 PM (FhXTo)

54 I am sick of them dodging the question by saying It's an ongoing Investigation, Answer the question.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 08, 2022 12:22 PM (dTgOy)

55 I'm shocked! Shocked! That gov leeches protect their phony baloney sinecures!!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 12:22 PM (LsEU/)

56 Grassley sounds like Jimmy Stewart when he speaks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 12:22 PM (m7R0k)

57
You peasants were lucky he took the time to make an appearance at all.

BTW, appointed by Trump after he fired Comey.

Posted by: Auspex at August 08, 2022 12:22 PM (j4U/Z)

58 They have to protect their phony baloney jobs.

Harrumph!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:22 PM (Ivdso)

59 I no longer automatically dismiss the conspiracy “theories” about the Kennedy assassination.

I am at that place about 9/11. I know that it wasn't a conspiracy or faked but... damn what CAN you believe from the government? Anything?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (Ivdso)

* TWA Flight 800 has entered the chat.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 08, 2022 12:23 PM (4I/2K)

60 43 You know, I no longer automatically dismiss the conspiracy “theories” about the Kennedy assassination.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2022 12:21 PM (atmen)
_____________________

I'm at the point where I think the most extreme of those "conspiracy" theories are maybe even money on their truthfulness

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 08, 2022 12:23 PM (iFTx/)

61 It's the end of the Republican Party. Within 10 years, they'll poll alongside the Whigs and Prohibitionists. The only way to avoid that is to punish guys like Wray. But they won't. At most, they may get tough on one front. But there are too many - enemies all around.

So instead, they will proclaim to conservatives "We will do nothing whatsoever. F*** off."

Posted by: Eeyore at August 08, 2022 12:23 PM (TgBWG)

62 If he worked for a private company he would be fired on the spot for that kind of sh*t.

Posted by: vic /s at August 08, 2022 12:23 PM (mZwKe)

63 Damn! Beat me @50 Jordan!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 12:23 PM (LsEU/)

64 49 Yeah, 9/11, too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2022 12:23 PM (atmen)

65 These scumbolic federal agencies like the FBI and DOJ cannot be reformed or rehabilitated. They must be completely and totally destroyed and the ground salted where they once stood.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 08, 2022 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

There is no department of the federal government any more or less corrupt than the DoJ. The whole edifice must be torn down, brick by perfidious brick. Should have happened a century ago, frankly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 08, 2022 12:23 PM (IXpV7)

66 Wray needs to go for one last ride in the G5.

He really does. I wouldn't take the handcuffs off in case he tried to drag me with him.

Posted by: torabora at August 08, 2022 12:24 PM (Ii/ys)

67 Anyone sensing that Wray knows he's not long for the job?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2022 12:24 PM (xSnmX)

68 I'd like someone to explain to me why a director level government employee gets free vacation travel on a company jet. The CEO of Exxon or Microsoft can't do that. They can use one on a limited basis if they report it as taxable income. I seriously doubt Wray is reporting.

We have a serious problem of DC employees acting as rulers instead of employees.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 08, 2022 12:24 PM (lTGtQ)

69 These scumbolic federal agencies like the FBI and DOJ cannot be reformed or rehabilitated. They must be completely and totally destroyed and the ground salted where they once stood.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 08, 2022 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

New Word of the day!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 08, 2022 12:24 PM (4I/2K)

70 who foisted wray on trump?

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 08, 2022 12:24 PM (OuH7W)

71 Yeah, why do these ham-and-egging, selfless civil servants need a G5 luxury jet?
_________

And why is this asshole allowed to use it for personal trips?

Using a private jet for official government business is one thing, but there's no excuse for forcing taxpayers to pick up the tab for this guy's long weekends in vacation spots. That's bullshit.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (MvHI3)

72 He left a big carbon footprint….not including the plane.

Posted by: 7man at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (qwO6y)

73 Dude rolled to vacation, and all that will happen is he will field one question about it next time he's there.
It'll ba a short soundbite and nothing again will be mentioned.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (53oGX)

74 Damn! Beat me @50 Jordan!
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 12:23 PM (LsEU/)

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (DRSnL)

75 There is no department of the federal government any more or less corrupt than the DoJ.

I agree.

Posted by: State Department at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (m7R0k)

76 67 Anyone sensing that Wray knows he's not long for the job?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 08, 2022 12:24 PM (xSnmX)

He's a white male and I've seen no indication that he's gay or a tranny. So, yeah.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (UuD2k)

77 You ain't seen nothing yet.

Posted by: IRS at August 08, 2022 12:17 PM (m7R0k)

--------

When your IRS SWAT Team Comes to Murder Me for Failure to Pay the White Privilege Reparations Tax, I'll at least have the comfort of knowing that they arrived on
luxury IRS Gulfstreams that I helped pay for it ... so I've got that going for me.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (dWj6f)

78 > There is no department of the federal government any more or less corrupt than the DoJ. The whole edifice must be torn down, brick by perfidious brick. Should have happened a century ago, frankly.

The State Dept has to be up there.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (eyxn4)

79
It's the end of the Republican Party. Within 10 years, they'll poll alongside the Whigs and Prohibitionists. The only way to avoid that is to punish guys like Wray. But they won't. At most, they may get tough on one front. But there are too many - enemies all around.

So instead, they will proclaim to conservatives "We will do nothing whatsoever. F*** off."
Posted by: Eeyore at August 08, 2022 12:23 PM (TgBWG)

Wrong. I used to think this way, but it's wrong. If this was the America that saw the founding of the GOP, sure. But in this America, people will line up to vote for these dickweeds because muh AOC 'n' shiz.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (IXpV7)

80 Oh and by the way, sounds like the FBI didn't need that jet for anything serious.

Posted by: Caliban at August 08, 2022 12:25 PM (HgGBT)

81 An unmissable plane? Where would the FBI Director have to go besides Washington, DC? (especially if you're already testifying in Congress)

Posted by: t-bird at August 08, 2022 12:26 PM (Jg92y)

82 It's all posturing for the rubes.
--
Exactly, it's just a game to them.

Q: "soundbite loaded multipart question"
A: nonresponsive passive word salad

Follow up Q: "non-related, soundbite multipart question"
A: different wording of nonresponsive word salad

GOP, roaring on Twitter: WE SHOWED HIM, WE SHAMED HIM BUT GOOD!!!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2022 12:26 PM (hfGW2)

83 For a long time, I accepted government and corruption went hand in hand, because, well, giving power to people makes it inevitable. But, I also expected the corruption would be kept out of sight and to a minimum.

That's no longer true. People like Wray, Holder, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, etc., all flaunt their corruption and dare us to do anything about it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 12:27 PM (5pTK/)

84 69 These scumbolic federal agencies like the FBI and DOJ cannot be reformed or rehabilitated. They must be completely and totally destroyed and the ground salted where they once stood.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 08, 2022 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

New Word of the day!
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 08, 2022 12:24 PM (4I/2K)
___________________

:-)

We need new words to describe my supernatural hatred and loathing of these cocksuckers.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 08, 2022 12:27 PM (iFTx/)

85 82 GOP, roaring on Twitter: WE SHOWED HIM, WE SHAMED HIM BUT GOOD!!!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2022 12:26 PM (hfGW2)

==========

It's the best we're going to get from the GOP at the federal level for the next 2+ years.

With luck, we may get some positive action from the GOP at that level after 2024, but absolutely not before.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 12:28 PM (LvTSG)

86 Is Mike Pence still investigating the FBI failures prior to the Parkland shooting, or where they exonerated?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 12:28 PM (m7R0k)

87 The GOP is a complete joke and have no power in DC. Everybody knows this and are just openly laughing at them now. Time for Grassley to go on Hannity's show and express just how gosh darn disappointed he is about Wray's behavior. Just so disappointed.

Posted by: TheMitch at August 08, 2022 12:28 PM (cDITE)

88 Grassley's a worthless fatass who richly deserves this humiliation. More please.

Posted by: Capture Hate at August 08, 2022 12:28 PM (y7DUB)

89 a one party state has no need for all those consultants that run campaigns. So long as politicians have lots of relatives and friends who want in on the dough, the Dems will allow a two party state. Just so long as they get most of the dough.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at August 08, 2022 12:28 PM (Ynyl9)

90 Why is it that he won't be charged with "contempt of Congress" or be convicted by a jury of D.C. residents?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 08, 2022 12:28 PM (zajeO)

91 GOP, roaring on Twitter: WE SHOWED HIM, WE SHAMED HIM BUT GOOD!!!

"Now donate to us so we can show them more gooder!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:28 PM (Ivdso)

92 I can't believe we're paying for a Gulf Stream for wray to use for fun. It's really mind-boggling.

Posted by: LASue at August 08, 2022 12:28 PM (Ed8Zd)

93 yeah, there's nothing that can be done about this kind of shit-

everyone in DC is part of the hypocrisy
the cavalry isn't coming in November

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 12:29 PM (geLO8)

94 no comment

can't answer that

ongoing investigation

profit!

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at August 08, 2022 12:29 PM (Ynyl9)

95 who foisted wray on trump?

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 08, 2022 12:24 PM (OuH7W)

seniority? union contract?

Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2022 12:29 PM (AwYPR)

96 I just don't know what would have to happen to change this. We talk about burning it all down and salting the earth, but we know that's just what needs to happen, not what will. I don't see any way out of this. Revolution, I guess, but I sincerely doubt that would turn out like either side hopes it would.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 08, 2022 12:30 PM (BjGT6)

97 Wray: Pull my finger
GOP: OK

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2022 12:30 PM (VpIIl)

98 Much will be resolved in the Burning Time.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 08, 2022 12:30 PM (MeDDJ)

99 I love how he doesn't even try to give any sort of excuse its just "I won't answer questions on that topic". And the Senators just go "thank you, may I have another??"

What's the point of this alleged oversight if you don't actually oversee anything?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:30 PM (Ivdso)

100 Sidebar video - if that really an Antifa dude that was perforated, then that is what happens when you have an FBI that isn't interested in shutting down Antifa networks. That guy wouldn't have been on the streets if FBI was doing the job it is supposed to do.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 08, 2022 12:30 PM (fs1hN)

101 Back later. Time to face the world for a bit.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (5pTK/)

102 "The deep state knows it can act with impunity."

at this point, they have to act with more brazenness than ever, or they themselves end up in prison, or hanging.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (Cus5s)

103 who foisted wray on trump?

One of his 'loyal' insiders. He should have promoted the Quantico janitor, we would be better off right now.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (m7R0k)

104 Two sets of rules, two sets of laws.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (XvPQV)

105 Good. Bring more of this out. This was the executive branch treating Congress with great arrogance and contempt, lying to them, prevaricating, then sauntering off on his own schedule to fly around on the taxpayer dime.

He treated the Senate with the respect that institution is due. The Congress as a whole is a pointless joke and the more people who know that, the better. If the Congress is tired of being a pointless joke, well, they have the power of the purse. It can defund the DoJ until it gets substantive answers.

Congress behaves like it is unworthy of respect, and it is treated without respect.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (WWh8n)

106 Cut the FBI budget in half, GOP. What are you waiting for, cowards?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (VpIIl)

107 everyone in DC is part of the hypocrisy

Hypocracy, rule by hypocrisy?

Posted by: t-bird at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (Jg92y)

108 if a Repub tried this in a Schiff committee, it would be Contempt of Congress fer sure, and Garland would prosecute.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (Ynyl9)

109 But if we dare cut the FBI luxury jet budget, the terrorists will win!!

Except for the first World Trade Center bombing, 9/11, the Boston bombers, the Nidal killer, the Pulse Nightclub, etc., etc. Those were just super tricky terrorists that no one could have stopped.

I mean, just because the fbi hasn't stopped a single terrorist attack in 80 years doesn't mean their luck isn't going to change soon ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2022 12:32 PM (hfGW2)

110 Oh, for the Love of Life Orchestra. This is the dictionary definition of "impunity." For real. You look up "impunity" in your Webster's New World, and there's this asshole's smirking face right there at #1.

Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at August 08, 2022 12:32 PM (SPNTN)

111
Well, he took his G5 because he has to be ready at a moment's notice to race to some school board meeting to arrest the unruly mom complaining about groomer teachers offering their kids a "safe space" to explore their new gender.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 08, 2022 12:32 PM (U3bBU)

112 Guess what you'll be dining on for the foreseeable future?

Posted by: Wray's Ass at August 08, 2022 12:32 PM (9FBGz)

113 87 The GOP is a complete joke and have no power in DC. Everybody knows this and are just openly laughing at them now. Time for Grassley to go on Hannity's show and express just how gosh darn disappointed he is about Wray's behavior. Just so disappointed.
Posted by: TheMitch at August 08, 2022 12:28 PM (cDITE)
____________

I'll believe Hannity is capable of learning anything once he goes nuclear on the FBI. Until then, he's not worth watching.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 08, 2022 12:32 PM (fs1hN)

114 "When is enough finally enough?"

These hands aren't going to sit on themselves buddy. Send us money.

Posted by: Republican Party at August 08, 2022 12:33 PM (cDITE)

115 Trump: OK that Comey guy is gone, what a douchebag. But we need a replacement, who we got?
Pence: Wray, he's a good guy
Trump: Ray? Ray who?
Pence: Christopher Wray, with a w
Trump: How do you spell Christopher with a W?
Pence: ... Wray is a good replacement, we can trust him.
Trump: Whatever, I gotta go solve the middle east and set up new trade deals. You say Wray is good, I don't have time for this. We'll go with him.
Pence: excellent *steepling fingers*
Trump: What?
Pence: nothing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:33 PM (Ivdso)

116
I can't believe we're paying for a Gulf Stream for wray to use for fun. It's really mind-boggling.
Posted by: LASue

It's good to be the king!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 08, 2022 12:33 PM (63Dwl)

117 Beyond exposing Congress for what it is, anyone paying even casual attention will see the double standard at play, too. As many have pointed out here and elsewhere, if someone not down with Uniparty had done this, he'd be in jail now for contempt of Congress.

This is also illustrative. There are more rules if you're in the club.

So again, more of this, please. These institutions desperately need a catastrophic credibility and confidence crisis.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 12:34 PM (WWh8n)

118 Not one of these guys had been punished to any real exent. Yes, Comey was fired, but any penalties or prison time for this involvement?
All this proves is not that we are country of two laws, but rather one law applied to the enemies of the regime, while friends of the regime can do whatever they want (including buggering children on Epstein Island) and get away with it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:34 PM (ynpvh)

119 No EV for Wray? Can't wait for all Democrats to be environmentally compliant.

Posted by: sidney at August 08, 2022 12:34 PM (Uy/WF)

120
I wonder what the FBI pays hollywood to extoll their virtuous exploits on the big screen.

Sort of 'product placement' fee I'd bet. Incentive to produce pro-FBI plots.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 08, 2022 12:35 PM (U3bBU)

121 Much will be resolved in the Burning Time.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 08, 2022 12:30 PM (MeDDJ)

There will be no Burning Time any more than there was White Hat time.

The only Burning Time that is to come is when the Lord returns.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 08, 2022 12:35 PM (zajeO)

122 At this point, on 9/11....I'm half persuaded the FBI knew about the attack and let it happen.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 12:35 PM (XvPQV)

123 Outrageous! Please donate today.

Posted by: Senate GOP Doormats at August 08, 2022 12:35 PM (YTBIQ)

124 I wonder what the FBI pays Hollywood to extoll their virtuous exploits on the big screen.

They spend a significant part of their budget every year pushing new shows and lobbying Hollywood to portray the FBI in a good light. They've done it for ages.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (Ivdso)

125 119 No EV for Wray? Can't wait for all Democrats to be environmentally compliant.
Posted by: sidney at August 08, 2022 12:34 PM (Uy/WF)
_________

Do the EVs catch fire while occupied?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (fs1hN)

126 fay wray >>> chris wray

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (ynpvh)

127 I'm starting to think it's too late. The government positions are just too lucrative and powerful to be reformed.

Fairly menial jobs now come with unimaginable wealth.

The guy who spent 8 years telling you to pay more and that you only need so much has made 1000 million dollars since leaving office. He's a literal billionaire. But you are bad and he's good.

The secretary of transportation tells you to go green but travels by private jet...to global warming conferences. He will have hundreds of millions of dollars in the next decade selling green energy scams from his 20 bedroom mansion on the coast of a vacation paradise.

Posted by: MJ at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (zwDuR)

128 Just give us a majority, and we will give you more hearings and a LOT of strongly worded letters!

Material actions and budget cutting? That's not who we are.

Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (VpIIl)

129 The resident's son openly grifts hundreds of millions of dollars and ends up living in a mansion guarded by secret service agents living in the mansion next door. His gripe? The agents have a bigger mansion.

The speaker of the house obviously uses insider information to amass hundreds of millions of dollars and laughs about it.

A late 20s political nobody will end up with a billion dollars by her 40s because she's a sort of hot religious kook.

Collapse is probably the only way out of this.

Posted by: MJ at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (zwDuR)

130 I'll believe Hannity is capable of learning anything once he goes nuclear on the FBI. Until then, he's not worth watching.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 08, 2022 12:32 PM (fs1hN)

I have a feeling we're going to be seeing ol' Sean doing a podcast on youtube or tik tok videos in the not too distant future. They'll probably unearth footage of him in a silk kimono "teaching martial arts" to an 11 year old and smoking crack with Kevin Spacey.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (zB/T/)

131 As I said on the last thread, the Federal Government is the nekkid lardass, We the People are the ottoman.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (atmen)

132 Move along, serfs. Top Men need top notch travel services.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (TNyrE)

133 Abolish The Federal Government.

No one besides the shit bag layabout federal employees would miss it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (2CExO)

134

Mr Wray let me ask you what in depth follow up question.

Can I taste your prostate?

Posted by: Shemp Smith at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (1IB5G)

135 #105 Joe Mannix (not a cop!)
He treated the Senate with the respect that institution is due. The Congress as a whole is a pointless joke and the more people who know that, the better. If the Congress is tired of being a pointless joke, well, they have the power of the purse. It can defund the DoJ until it gets substantive answers.

Congress behaves like it is unworthy of respect, and it is treated without respect.
****
This is exactly how the Emperors of Rome treated the Senate, rubbing their noses in the stinking remains of their former glory and importance. Not that they didn't deserve some of it, but a squabbling nest of multiple little tyrants with conflicting interests is, on the whole, safer for the general public than one mighty tyrant who can do as he pleases. Just saying.

Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (SPNTN)

136 125 119 No EV for Wray? Can't wait for all Democrats to be environmentally compliant.
Posted by: sidney at August 08, 2022 12:34 PM (Uy/WF)
_________

Do the EVs catch fire while occupied?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (fs1hN)

His jet should be EV...they it can catch fire on it's way to the Adirondacks...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

137 I knew it was bull shit as Senator said it was his own fkkn aircraft wherever he wanted to go

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (n0TZW)

138 116
I can't believe we're paying for a Gulf Stream for wray to use for fun. It's really mind-boggling.
Posted by: LASue

Why can't you believe it?

I'd be shocked if it wasn't happening.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but? at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (9FBGz)

139 There will be no Burning Time any more than there was White Hat time.

The only Burning Time that is to come is when the Lord returns.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 08, 2022 12:35 PM (zajeO)

How optimistic. I thought you'd be in the 'fall of Western Civilization' and 'financial collapse' team.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (XvPQV)

140 G-5's are for little people.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (sWM8x)

141 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)

142 Govexec dot com: Attorney General Perks Include Personal Use of Agency Aircraft. Department spends millions on non-mission travel, GAO finds.

Above quoted article was from February 2013 when Mueller was FBI Director and Holder was AG. It's Executive Branch "policy" & has been for quite awhile.

However, even now, taxpayers might be shocked at the cost for all government-owned airplanes employed by the feds.

Posted by: Lola at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (NIYa7)

143 135 #105 Joe Mannix (not a cop!)
He treated the Senate with the respect that institution is due. The Congress as a whole is a pointless joke and the more people who know that, the better. If the Congress is tired of being a pointless joke, well, they have the power of the purse. It can defund the DoJ until it gets substantive answers.

Congress behaves like it is unworthy of respect, and it is treated without respect.
****
This is exactly how the Emperors of Rome treated the Senate, rubbing their noses in the stinking remains of their former glory and importance. Not that they didn't deserve some of it, but a squabbling nest of multiple little tyrants with conflicting interests is, on the whole, safer for the general public than one mighty tyrant who can do as he pleases. Just saying.

Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (SPNTN)

I'd say I'm waiting for a horse to be Senator, but we already had John Kerry...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM (ynpvh)

144 "I have the most heavily tattooed vagina in the world!"

SMOD, please, its time

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM (ESjRY)

145 LMAO!!! "Them g-damn Republicans, they won't do anything!!"

"Its the end of the Republican Party!!"

Republican Party ain't going nowhere and the people that say the Dems and Repubs are a "Uni-Party" need to actually start believing what they say because it is true. The Repubs are in on this so no, nothing is going to happen. This is pure theater to make you think voting coming up in 22 and 24 will be legit.

Posted by: JROD at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM (0jZnq)

146 I assume Rod "No Balls At All" Rosenstein recommended Wray to President Trump. Deep Staters will work to fill Deep State jobs with Deep Staters.

Wray's employment before becoming FB! Director:

Wray joined the government in 1997 as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia. In 2001, he moved to the Justice Department as associate deputy attorney general and principal associate deputy attorney general.
On June 9, 2003, President George W. Bush nominated Wray to be the 33rd Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Criminal Division of the Justice Department.

Wray joined King & Spalding in 2005 as a litigation partner in the firm's Washington, D.C., and Atlanta offices. Wray represented several Fortune 100 companies and chaired the King & Spalding Special Matters and Government Investigations Practice Group.

Posted by: Gref at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM (AMIL/)

147 Congress behaves like it is unworthy of respect, and it is treated without respect.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (WWh8n)

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Collective noun contest: A Fredo of CongressCritters.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM (n+iCI)

148 @49

>>I am at that place about 9/11. I know that it wasn't a conspiracy or faked but... damn what CAN you believe from the government? Anything?

9/11 was an Op, just like the Plandemic was an Op, Russia Collusion was an Op, and on and on.

Everything is an Op.
Everything is bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM (n/8Ck)

149 Put him in the iron maiden.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)

150 who foisted wray on trump?
McMasters, Priebus, Srssions... Take you pick out of the shit pile.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 12:39 PM (m7R0k)

151 G-5's are for little people.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (sWM8x)

C-5, now that's the ticket.

Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2022 12:39 PM (AwYPR)

152 Start simple. If you control the budget, defund his private plane and don't allow any of the FBI budget to be spent on any flight the director is one. They could actually write that. Congress allocates fund and can dictate how that money is spent.

But then, I'm thinking Republicans have a set.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2022 12:39 PM (VpIIl)

153 I have a feeling we're going to be seeing ol' Sean doing a podcast on youtube or tik tok videos in the not too distant future. They'll probably unearth footage of him in a silk kimono "teaching martial arts" to an 11 year old and smoking crack with Kevin Spacey.

Posted by: clutch cargo

Hell, he was cheating on his wife for years. Who knows what substances he has been using.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 08, 2022 12:39 PM (lTGtQ)

154 119 No EV for Wray? Can't wait for all Democrats to be environmentally compliant.
Posted by: sidney at August 08, 2022 12:34 PM (Uy/WF)
_______

How about a special chair?

Posted by: Eeyore at August 08, 2022 12:40 PM (TgBWG)

155 Who is the director of the FBI accountable to? The DOJ, which is also wholly owned by the DNC?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at August 08, 2022 12:40 PM (eGTCV)

156 The deep state knows it can act with impunity.
==
The FBI and the DOJ are the deep states enforcers. When they want to rub someone out, the call them in for an "investigation".

Posted by: Its a puppet show - he knows its a joke at August 08, 2022 12:41 PM (caRb7)

157 "To be honest, I tried to make my break as fast I could to get right back out here."

Gott admit, it takes a while to eat eggs benedict, and you sure don't want to get hollandaise on your tie if you're about to go on camera. And you could burn your mouth on the cappuccino, so it's best to just chill a bit and read the front section of the NYT for a bit.

Of course it would be poor form to walk in and have your stomach start growling. And you sure can't show up with a Dunkin' Donut and coffee like a pleb.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 08, 2022 12:41 PM (zB/T/)

158 This is one of the reasons there is a demand to the end of private tracking and internet display of flights.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 08, 2022 12:41 PM (xhaym)

159

Chinese military fires missiles over Taiwan for first time ever

Posted by: It's Happening at August 08, 2022 12:41 PM (9FBGz)

160 I'm sure glad my tax dollars are being used to provide free executive jet vacation travel for mid tier government employees. I'd hate it if they wasted that money I worked hard for.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 08, 2022 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)

161 Hannity still believes the FBI is a solid pro-America agency, with a few bad apples making it look bad

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 12:42 PM (geLO8)

162 How optimistic. I thought you'd be in the 'fall of Western Civilization' and 'financial collapse' team.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (XvPQV)

That has already occurred.

See any civil unrest?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 08, 2022 12:42 PM (zajeO)

163 Trump: OK that Comey guy is gone, what a douchebag. But we need a replacement, who we got?
Pence: Wray, he's a good guy
Trump: Ray? Ray who?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:33 PM (Ivdso)

I guarantee this never happened, mostly because Donald Trump correctly realized that no one capable of Senate confirmation (especially one with Burr, Toomey and goddamned Jeff Flake) was ever going support the American people. To the extent Trump succeeded abroad, it was when he sidelined the State Department and intelligence services.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 12:42 PM (yJWaZ)

164 The problem with the defunding line is that the house handles budgeting and the Senate is doing these jackass hearings. So they can recommend but the House has to do it and they cannot even cut funding for NPR.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:42 PM (Ivdso)

165 Americans have been remarkably tolerant of corruption in DC for a couple of reasons. One: We were not exposed to it. The media made sure of it. Social Media changed that.
Two: for the most part, the Swamp creatures didn't go overboard. They kept their avarice, and disdain of the people to themselves. Social media is changing that.
Now they are going to militarize the IRS to come after the middle class in order to fund their G550s. When the people finally say no, its gonna hurt.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 08, 2022 12:43 PM (anj39)

166 Until these scumbags (referring to the Fibbies here) do hard time in a super-max, NOTHING WILL CHANGE

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2022 12:43 PM (oP2SA)

167 I thought the 1993 WT Center bombing was hinky. This shit has been going on since my grandparents day and before.

Posted by: Infidel at August 08, 2022 12:44 PM (mn1Pi)

168 Donald Trump correctly realized that no one capable of Senate confirmation (especially one with Burr, Toomey and goddamned Jeff Flake) was ever going support the American people.

I don't think he had a clue who most of these people were and was relying on who he thought were loyal and capable people to advise him on good choices.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:44 PM (Ivdso)

169 >Who is the director of the FBI accountable to?

the Attorney General, who is the President's enforcer

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 12:44 PM (geLO8)

170 I think Chris Christie recommended Wray to Trump since he represented him on Bridgegate..

Trump really should have done more research on Wray because Wray worked under Comey in the DOJ and liked him. He should have picked someone that had zero connections to Comey.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2022 12:45 PM (NpAcC)

171 The GOP is currently cowering in fear, and, there may be some justification for that fear.

The GOP knows the current DOJ isn't above sending agents to raid their homes on the flimsiest of pretexts.
=
No shit.

Posted by: Ted Stevens - Longest Serving Senator at time - convicted - right before election lost Convi reve at August 08, 2022 12:45 PM (vxk8J)

172 ... Not that they didn't deserve some of it, but a squabbling nest of multiple little tyrants with conflicting interests is, on the whole, safer for the general public than one mighty tyrant who can do as he pleases. Just saying.
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (SPNTN)
++++
It's absolutely better, but Congress has abdicated. It has shuffled off responsibility to the Executive. It has signed enabling act after enabling act to shift legislation to the executive agencies. They refuse to play hardball. They are effectively down to just one major power, and that's the budget - the thing they haven't bothered with since the Bush 43 administration.

If Congress wants to reassert itself and regain a modicum of respect, it can do so any time it chooses. Respond to shit like this. Defund the DoJ. Cut spending on non-cooperative agencies or even just on general principle to keep them on notice. Demand - and pass - actual budgets.

I agree it would be better with a respectable Congress that does it's job. They can do it anytime they please.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 12:45 PM (WWh8n)

173 Damn Donald Trump's hands are constantly tied except when they're not.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 08, 2022 12:46 PM (sWbrH)

174 164 The problem with the defunding line is that the house handles budgeting and the Senate is doing these jackass hearings. So they can recommend but the House has to do it and they cannot even cut funding for NPR.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
----------------------
Senate today has about as much power as the House in budgeting but chooses instead to do omnibus bills. Each senator has the right to propose amendments to the budget and spending bills. Furthermore, the Senate itself often strips all the language from a House bill and then puts in the bill what it wants which is technical compliance with bills regarding spending and taxes originate in the House.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2022 12:46 PM (CXr4y)

175 The stench of DC is growing to intolerable levels.

And what are you going to about it....peasant!

Posted by: D.C. Swamp Thing at August 08, 2022 12:46 PM (+Ivv+)

176 166 Huck, I’m pretty sure these guys are headed for a super-max, for eternity.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2022 12:46 PM (atmen)

177 Conviction reversed for gross prosectutorial conduct - later dies in plane crash.

Hello . . . they took out the senior republican senator and nobody said shit.

Posted by: zombie ted stevens at August 08, 2022 12:46 PM (vxk8J)

178 159 Chinese military fires missiles over Taiwan for first time ever
Posted by: It's Happening at August 08, 2022 12:41 PM (9FBGz)

The more aggressive the CCP get, the more desperate they are to deflect from internal issues...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:47 PM (ynpvh)

179 The only Burning Time that is to come is when the Lord returns.

Thanks, BitterClinger. So true.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 08, 2022 12:47 PM (BjGT6)

180 170 I think Chris Christie recommended Wray to Trump since he represented him on Bridgegate..

Trump really should have done more research on Wray because Wray worked under Comey in the DOJ and liked him. He should have picked someone that had zero connections to Comey.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2022 12:45 PM (NpAcC)

Isn't anyone confirmable already guaranteed to be connected to pretty much everyone you wouldn't want them to?
All of Washington DC is.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 08, 2022 12:47 PM (53oGX)

181 160 I'm sure glad my tax dollars are being used to provide free executive jet vacation travel for mid tier government employees. I'd hate it if they wasted that money I worked hard for.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 08, 2022 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)

I'd rather my tax dollars subsidize his long stay in a fed pen. One can dream.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:47 PM (ynpvh)

182 The more aggressive the CCP get, the more desperate they are to deflect from internal issues...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:47 PM (ynpvh)

Borrowing from the NK playbook

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 08, 2022 12:47 PM (S+j2h)

183 I don't think he had a clue who most of these people were and was relying on who he thought were loyal and capable people to advise him on good choices.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:44 PM (Ivdso)

No, no. The truth of the matter can be seen in Trump's trade team: undercutting him would have been very easy if any of the top negotiators were leaking to the other side. Whatever else happened, most of the top trade representatives on the American side were loyal to America.

By contrast, it'd be rarer to find an FBI man that isn't a complete piece of garbage. You could blame Bill Barr, but fighting the entire DoJ isn't why he was hired and he never would have accepted the job if it was.

Trump correctly thought he could beat the FBI and CIA together, but they had to overtly steal an election to negate that.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 12:47 PM (yJWaZ)

184 >>>When is enough finally enough?

Signs say more pain is needed.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 12:47 PM (U3uv2)

185 Who the hell recommended Wray to Trump?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 08, 2022 12:47 PM (TWDRD)

186 TIL the FBI has a fucking Gulfstream. Unreal.

Posted by: Blago at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (PwNLq)

187 >>979093
TRUST SESSIONS.

TRUST WRAY.

TRUST KANSAS.
TRUST HOROWITZ.
TRUST HUBER.

Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (zLuh5)

188 They think they are above the law because they are above the law. They do whatever they want with no repercussions. There is no real oversight.
He didn't answer any of their questions. He bobbed and weaved and spew a lot of bullshit. And then when he finished left, on his own schedule, not when they finished with him.
The FBI is beyond fixing. They need to be shut down.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (dr4Q1)

189 129 Collapse is probably the only way out of this.

This is what I am afraid of.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (BjGT6)

190 > "I have the most heavily tattooed vagina in the world!"

I'm assuming she means labia because the vagina is the birth canal.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (eyxn4)

191 I think Chris Christie recommended Wray to Trump since he represented him on Bridgegate..

Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2022 12:45 PM (NpAcC)

The same Chris Christie who Donald Trump fired for botching the transition?

Unlikely.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (yJWaZ)

192 Wray literally pulled an Eric Cartman.

SCREW YOU GUYS, I'm goin' home.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2022 12:50 PM (Zz0t1)

193 I don't appreciate Criminal Wray acting criminally.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 08, 2022 12:50 PM (sI15f)

194 That 90 minutes of flight time cost more than most Americans make a year

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2022 12:50 PM (hfGW2)

195 When is enough finally enough?
==
when it is too much.

Posted by: the iron law of revolutions at August 08, 2022 12:50 PM (zLuh5)

196 189 129 Collapse is probably the only way out of this.

This is what I am afraid of.

there are other alternatives

Posted by: ZombieMadameDeFarge at August 08, 2022 12:50 PM (w0NJk)

197 I have to believe the FIB has a lot of dirt on Hannity. Or he’s very stupid. Or both. Probably both.

Posted by: Flatville Bill at August 08, 2022 12:50 PM (tEsMf)

198 >>> 189 129 Collapse is probably the only way out of this.

This is what I am afraid of.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (BjGT6)

The WEF and the rest of Stan's asshoes are trying very hard to accomplish just that.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 12:50 PM (llON8)

199 187 >>979093
TRUST SESSIONS.
TRUST WRAY.
TRUST KANSAS.
TRUST HOROWITZ.
TRUST HUBER.
Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (zLuh5)

Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind...

Posted by: Kansas at August 08, 2022 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

200 Who the hell recommended Wray to Trump?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

____________

Mr. Trump called Mr. Wray "an impeccably qualified individual,"

"I know that he will again serve his country as a fierce guardian of the law and model of integrity once the Senate confirms him to lead the F.B.I.," Mr. Trump said in the statement.

But we totally need Trump back in there to fix things.

Posted by: Blago at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (PwNLq)

201
I'm assuming she means labia because the vagina is the birth canal.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (eyxn4)

Semantics.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

202 I guarantee this never happened, mostly because Donald Trump correctly realized that no one capable of Senate confirmation (especially one with Burr, Toomey and goddamned Jeff Flake) was ever going support the American people.
Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 12:42 PM (yJWaZ)

We don't know because he never forced the issue. This is when what one assumes based on what has always happened before must be confronted with purpose and faith in a vision. Trump never made that leap. At some point, the issue has to be forced, and all political and moral capital must be committed to the fight.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (H8QX8)

203 187 >>979093
TRUST SESSIONS.

TRUST WRAY.

TRUST KANSAS.
TRUST HOROWITZ.
TRUST HUBER.
Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (zLuh5)

Right. Looks like Qanon was another FBI psyop

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (sI15f)

204 Collapse is probably the only way out of this.

This is what I am afraid of.
==
Count on it.

Posted by: Magic 8 ball at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (zLuh5)

205 190 > "I have the most heavily tattooed vagina in the world!"
I'm assuming she means labia because the vagina is the birth canal.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (eyxn4)
Article indicates this, but still possible. I mean, people have gotten their EYES tatted...

Posted by: Kansas at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (ynpvh)

206 @168

>>I don't think he had a clue who most of these people were and was relying on who he thought were loyal and capable people to advise him on good choices.

Well, of course not, Trump is literally an outsider and had to, unfortunately, trust the people recommended to him by subordinates and the GOP establishment.

Wray was a Bushworld, GOP Establishment foot soldier who got tapped because he was Chris Christies personal attorney and because that was the guy the establishment said they could get votes to confirm.

As has been alluded to and everyone seems to be wrapping their heads around, the entire governmental edifice essentially operates like the mob and organized crime.

Wray is just a cog in a crooked system doing what he's told and what is expected.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (n/8Ck)

207 “What is the point of Senate oversight”— finally, people are beginning to ask the right type of questions.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (31l4A)

208 the Attorney General, who is the President's enforcer
Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 12:44 PM (geLO

Chances are, as AG, he gets a voice and a veto over anything done by the Executive branch. Just like Beria did.

I expect he has a say in anything Pelosi and Romney, and a few others get to do, also, and for the very same reason.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 08, 2022 12:52 PM (xhaym)

209 I'm assuming she means labia because the vagina is the birth canal.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (eyxn4)

ahhh. Graffiti on the walls.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 08, 2022 12:52 PM (anj39)

210 How come when Wray issues a "can't comment" one of our whiz bang trial lawyer Senators doesn't ask the witness if he is asserting a legal privilege.
And if so, to cite that privilege.
And if not, that the Senate intends to hold Wray in contempt of Congress.

And they should insist on the names and files of every person known to the FBI to have "participated in events surrounding J6" who was in any way in communication with the FBI before.

And while they're at it the complete files of all J6 related investigations.

Simply infuriating.

Posted by: Zek at August 08, 2022 12:52 PM (OzNIz)

211 When I was a yute growing up the DC Metro area, G-men were heroes.

Now they are ideological political commie bastard hacks.
Posted by: Count de Monet
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There was some (cereal ?) company that promoted the 'Junior G-Man' club. I still have the little badge around here somewhere. We all wanted to grow up to be Melvin Purvis.

I cannot imagine a parent today in any way encouraging a child to become an FBI agent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 08, 2022 12:53 PM (5zg1j)

212 > "I have the most heavily tattooed vagina in the world!"

I'm assuming she means labia because the vagina is the birth canal.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (eyxn4)

That's sexist to expect the equipment owner to understand what she's talking about.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 12:53 PM (U3uv2)

213 Right. Looks like Qanon was another FBI psyop

There are still plenty of dopes that still believe that crap. It's unnerving.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 12:53 PM (m7R0k)

214 Just say 'hoo-hah'
we know what she meant

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 12:53 PM (geLO8)

215 when unelected gub terrorists thumb their noses at elected officials

that's an insurection

Posted by: REDACTED at August 08, 2022 12:53 PM (us2H3)

216

They spend a significant part of their budget every year pushing new shows and lobbying Hollywood to portray the FBI in a good light. They've done it for ages.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:36 PM (Ivdso)

-----

A couple of years ago I saw a minute or two of some TV show about the FBI. An FBI agent was speaking to some witness or somebody in a sneering hostile tone, mentioning that he (the agent) was Muslim. He had a beard and scowled as he lectured them. I moved on quickly. God it was bad. They really want to demoralize us and put us in our place.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 08, 2022 12:53 PM (5owXX)

217

Coki Roberts, the NPR scrunt? Her dad was house majority leader and a very big JFK conspiracy theorist / Oswald denier. Died in a plane crash.

Guess who put him on the plane? Congressional aid Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Just Sayin at August 08, 2022 12:53 PM (1IB5G)

218 I guarantee this never happened, mostly because Donald Trump correctly realized that no one capable of Senate confirmation (especially one with Burr, Toomey and goddamned Jeff Flake) was ever going support the American people.
Posted by: trev006
___

So Trump can be bullied by the RINOs and he will bend to their will.

What is the argument again for why we want to nominate Trump again if he will only carry out the UniParty's bidding?

Trump didn't even try to find someone else, let these guys vote down his FBI pick, it's better than nominating Wray.

Posted by: Blago at August 08, 2022 12:53 PM (PwNLq)

219 As has been alluded to and everyone seems to be wrapping their heads around, the entire governmental edifice essentially operates like the mob and organized crime.
==
watch season 3 of Fargo

Posted by: Magic 8 ball at August 08, 2022 12:54 PM (zLuh5)

220 207 “What is the point of Senate oversight”— finally, people are beginning to ask the right type of questions.
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (31l4A)

The purpose of Senate oversight is to generate sound clips that politicians can use at reelection time. Nothing more.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 08, 2022 12:54 PM (N39Ws)

221 What is the argument again for why we want to nominate Trump again if he will only carry out the UniParty's bidding?

maybe he learned something

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 08, 2022 12:54 PM (w0NJk)

222 Bukkake theater.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (zL564)

223 I'm telling you, this Wray guy is on the up and up, trust me.

Posted by: Andrew McCarthy at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (z7wN2)

224 The word I would use is "contempt." Wray has contempt for Congress. The swamp has contempt for the American people.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (BJKQV)

225 I'm assuming she means labia because the vagina is the birth canal.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (eyxn4)

ahhh. Graffiti on the walls.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 08, 2022 12:52 PM (anj39)

---------

"And the words of the prophets are written on the labial walls ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (n+iCI)

226 220 The purpose of Senate oversight is to generate sound clips that politicians can use at reelection time. Nothing more.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 08, 2022 12:54 PM (N39Ws)

Yup. "Give money NOW so I can continue the fight!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

227 I assumed that it was an upthrust middle finger to the Republican Senators from the get-go.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (I2/tG)

228 I don't mean to totally Eeyore here, but I think you have to be realistic.

Every time a story pops up about something violent occurring, almost all of us, including myself, hope that it's not someone that shares our political beliefs involved lest we be guilty by association.

I don't see how any kind of civil conflict of any lasting effect occurs. I don't see any political maneuvering that gets us back to some semblance of good governance.

All I see is an ever increasing capacity to target and eliminate dissenting voices. Frogs in a pot.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (zajeO)

229 How come when Wray issues a "can't comment" one of our whiz bang trial lawyer Senators doesn't ask the witness if he is asserting a legal privilege.

Posted by: Zek at August 08, 2022 12:52 PM (OzNIz)

Understanding that FBI/DOJ does nothing that Congress (left and right alike) does not approve of - either beforehand or after the fact through continued funding - to maintain the status quo is a way to get to the answer to that question.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (U3uv2)

230 "The purpose of Senate oversight is to generate sound clips that politicians can use at reelection time. Nothing more."

Hey I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Spikey-Headed Twit Tray Shouty Gowdy at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (OzNIz)

231 You've got to hand it to those Democrat-aligned FBI Directors giving the middle finger to Republicans during a Senate hearing and getting away with it--just like Comey used to do!

If a Republican-aligned FBI Director ever got away with that, then you would know that our country had half a chance of surviving.

Posted by: Kurtz at August 08, 2022 12:56 PM (fA7af)

232 224 The word I would use is "contempt." Wray has contempt for Congress. The swamp has contempt for the American people.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (BJKQV)

has and is in.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:56 PM (ynpvh)

233 I can't wait for Mitch McConnell to do nothing about this.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 08, 2022 12:56 PM (z7wN2)

234 I have to believe the FIB has a lot of dirt on Hannity. Or he’s very stupid. Or both. Probably both.
----
Pretty sure he sent his dirty pics to a link in a random email: "Cick here to upload all your photos. We promise to delete them from the internet and block anyone from posting them!"

Sean: "Hot diggity! Those are some True Americans!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2022 12:56 PM (hfGW2)

235 Uh. Point of order. Isn't the reason we have Director Wray because Sen Grassley recommended him to Trump?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 08, 2022 12:56 PM (R8uWY)

236 Right. Looks like Qanon was another FBI psyop
Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (sI15f)

It may have started as that, and it may have ended as that, but I think in the middle it sounded like the biggest bluesky session ever.
When you have a lot of people free to voice an opinion and guess, on the average, a lot of truth gets exposed.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (xhaym)

237
9/11 was an Op, just like the Plandemic was an Op, Russia Collusion was an Op, and on and on.

Everything is an Op.
Everything is bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM (n/8Ck)

++++

I used to get blindly furious with anyone who suggested that 9/11 was an Op. I have backed down. Considerably.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (IW8z9)

238 “Countin’ flowers on the wall,
That don’t bother me at all.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (atmen)

239 maybe he learned something
Posted by: BlackOrchid

____

I honestly don't think he did, remember he asked Comey to stay on , so this was his 2nd fuck up on who should run the FBI. How many chances does he get?

EVERYONE here knew Comey and Wray were Deep State apparatchiks. Why didn't Trump?

Posted by: Blago at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (PwNLq)

240 231 You've got to hand it to those Democrat-aligned FBI Directors giving the middle finger to Republicans during a Senate hearing and getting away with it--just like Comey used to do!

Posted by: Kurtz at August 08, 2022 12:56 PM (fA7af)

And that's how you get Monkey Pox...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

241 So Trump can be bullied by the RINOs and he will bend to their will.

What is the argument again for why we want to nominate Trump again if he will only carry out the UniParty's bidding?

Trump didn't even try to find someone else, let these guys vote down his FBI pick, it's better than nominating Wray.

Posted by: Blago at August 08, 2022 12:53 PM (PwNLq)

I agree. Some other unnamed guy would be so much more preferable.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (U3uv2)

242 The same Chris Christie who Donald Trump fired for botching the transition?

Unlikely.
Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (yJWaZ)
********
Trump reamed out Chris Christie for recommending Chris Wray as FBI director and called Wray 'the worst member of my administration': book

https://tinyurl.com/mryk3nnw

Trump also used Christie as his debate coach in 2020.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (NpAcC)

243 The FBI And DOJ Criminalizing Opposition To The Regime Is How The Republic Ends

https://tinyurl.com/ktyrm9xs

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 12:58 PM (rY/MT)

244 Top Men and Women of the FBI, 99% of whom are just doing their jobs to keep Americans safe and are very disgusted by the corruption on the 7th floor.

I call "BS" on the 99% number. Anyone with an ounce of integrity figures out the game in the first two years of employment; then leaves. The rest start playing the game.

Posted by: Paladin at August 08, 2022 12:58 PM (+Ivv+)

245 Right. Looks like Qanon was another FBI psyop

I think QAnon was a bunch of well-meaning but ultimately ignorant and naive people trying to puzzle out what was happening and what would take place. Some of them might have even been FBI or former FBI telling how it SHOULD work or how it WOULD work if there was a shred of integrity and professionalism in the agency.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 12:58 PM (Ivdso)

246 224 The word I would use is "contempt." Wray has contempt for Congress. The swamp has contempt for the American people.

Posted by: 29Victor

=====

Contempt isn't strong enough. This is an active system of "if you say up, I will only say down. "

There is a Code in place, and nobody's gonna break it.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at August 08, 2022 12:58 PM (/tSaT)

247 >.Posted by: Kindltot at August 08, 2022 12:52 PM (xhaym)

well, think about it- the AG is supposedly THE top LEO in the country= too much power
when you're AG you can burn scores of religious cultists to death and get a pass- you can selectively enforce laws according to your boss's (the president's) wishes
what's the diff between an AG and a grand inquisitor?

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 12:58 PM (geLO8)

248 "And the words of the prophets are written on the labial walls ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (n+iCI)

And boyfriends balls

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 08, 2022 12:59 PM (S+j2h)

249 What is the argument again for why we want to nominate Trump again if he will only carry out the UniParty's bidding?

Because he is the only person to have held the job and actually tried to do what he promised. No one else in my lifetime has done that.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 08, 2022 12:59 PM (lTGtQ)

250 I'm assuming she means labia because the vagina is the birth canal.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 12:49 PM (eyxn4)

ahhh. Graffiti on the walls.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 08, 2022 12:52 PM (anj39)

---------

"And the words of the prophets are written on the labial walls ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 12:55 PM (n+iCI)

*Holds up lighter for David Draiman*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 12:59 PM (XvPQV)

251 228 I don't mean to totally Eeyore here, but I think you have to be realistic.

Every time a story pops up about something violent occurring, almost all of us, including myself, hope that it's not someone that shares our political beliefs involved lest we be guilty by association.

I don't see how any kind of civil conflict of any lasting effect occurs. I don't see any political maneuvering that gets us back to some semblance of good governance.

All I see is an ever increasing capacity to target and eliminate dissenting voices. Frogs in a pot.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger
--------------------------------
Collapse of a political regime is more like an earthquake--easy to predict it will happen but very difficult to pin down a date and time.

Same with if and when a resistance forms--hard to predict but eating bugs and owning nothing is not a popularly supported platform and the repressive apparatus of the fedgov itself is riven with rivalries, unpopular, and incompetent.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2022 12:59 PM (CXr4y)

252 198 HelenaHandbasket
The WEF and the rest of Stan's asshoes are trying very hard to accomplish just that.

I know it. They make it more plain every day. Well, more plain for those of us who are paying attention and connecting the dots.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 08, 2022 12:59 PM (BjGT6)

253 As has been alluded to and everyone seems to be wrapping their heads around, the entire governmental edifice essentially operates like the mob and organized crime.

---------

There was a famous tax protester (who went to prison for his beliefs) in Las Vegas decades ago named Irwin Schiff who coined the phrase "The Dederal Mafia."

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 01:00 PM (KXAsT)

254
All I see is an ever increasing capacity to target and eliminate dissenting voices. Frogs in a pot.

What people are hoping for is the LIVs to wake up.

Politically its something like 40-20 out of people that are aware. But that other 40% is mostly LIVs that the FNM can manipulate.

And this hope isn't completely unfounded - the LIVs are seeing the inflation if nothing else.

But it is something of a long shot - that the LIVs associate the inflation with the Dems/GOPe and vote for MAGA types, and enough MAGA types get elected over a number of elections to make a difference including some that will be bribed, blackmailed, and let's be honest here, killed.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 01:00 PM (ESjRY)

255 EVERYONE here knew Comey and Wray were Deep State apparatchiks. Why didn't Trump?

Posted by: Blago at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (PwNLq)

I recall absolutely no one saying anything of the sort.
This, if true, would be news to most.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 08, 2022 01:00 PM (53oGX)

256 what's the diff between an AG and a grand inquisitor?
Posted by: DB

The comfy chair!

Posted by: Cardinal Fang at August 08, 2022 01:00 PM (1IB5G)

257 Because he is the only person to have held the job and actually tried to do what he promised. No one else in my lifetime has done that.

never forget this

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 08, 2022 01:00 PM (w0NJk)

258 Trump never made that leap. At some point, the issue has to be forced, and all political and moral capital must be committed to the fight.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (H8QX

Oh, I'd say we're there. But we couldn't get there without a Trumpslide that was stolen- dissolving the Senate at gunpoint in 2020 would have made Trump look like a tyrant. Remember Fort Sumter.

If people genuinely thought that the government was completely Stalinist and that they had no other options, they'd start shooting. It's a tempting fate, but you can't force people into bravery. Either they're ready to die for the cause, or they have their own plans. Which may be, incidentally, why the mujahedeen and the Russian Army alike are dancing circles around the WEF's ambitions.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 01:01 PM (Z98iW)

259 Weird how Wray fit in with the FBI corruption hand in glove.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 08, 2022 01:01 PM (R8uWY)

260 Remember that Trump appointed this guy.

DeSantis 2024.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 08, 2022 01:01 PM (I2/tG)

261 Mr. Trump called Mr. Wray "an impeccably qualified individual,"

"I know that he will again serve his country as a fierce guardian of the law and model of integrity once the Senate confirms him to lead the F.B.I.," Mr. Trump said in the statement.

But we totally need Trump back in there to fix things.
Posted by: Blago at August 08, 2022 12:51 PM (PwNLq)

-----

That didn't answer my question.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 08, 2022 01:01 PM (TWDRD)

262 257 Because he is the only person to have held the job and actually tried to do what he promised. No one else in my lifetime has done that.

never forget this
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 08, 2022 01:00 PM (w0NJk)

+1

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 01:01 PM (XvPQV)

263 @237

>>I used to get blindly furious with anyone who suggested that 9/11 was an Op. I have backed down. Considerably.

Well it was an Op.

The LE/IC knew these guys were in the country, knew what they were up to and allowed them to accomplish their mission.

Remember when Islamists were going to murder Pam Geller, well, the FBI knew what these guys were up to, tracked them and were sitting back and watching them as they were about to execute their plan, were going to allow Pam Geller to be executed for their own ends.

The only reason why Pam Geller is alive is because local cops interceded and took down the terrorists.

9/11 was an inside job only not the way Loose Changes imagines it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2022 01:01 PM (n/8Ck)

264 what's the diff between an AG and a grand inquisitor?

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 12:58 PM (geLO

AG wears suit and tie instead of robes

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 01:01 PM (dCxaZ)

265 >>> 237
9/11 was an Op, just like the Plandemic was an Op, Russia Collusion was an Op, and on and on.

Everything is an Op.
Everything is bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM (n/8Ck)

++++
I used to get blindly furious with anyone who suggested that 9/11 was an Op. I have backed down. Considerably.
Posted by: washrivergal at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (IW8z9)

I don't buy the WTC collapsing because of hidden explosives instead of, you know, a passenger jet slamming into each main building with nearly full tanks of jet fuel (which can, in fact, melt steel enough to make it soft and incapable of bearing loads). However, it wasn't long after the attacks that we heard of an FBI agent reporting to his superiors that a bunch of Arabic men were learning to fly but not land and his "superiors" had told him to shut up because racism.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 01:02 PM (llON8)

266 phat phuck chris christie went balls to the wall championing wray for the fbi job.....

who says masks don`t work?

Posted by: uncouth jay marks at August 08, 2022 01:02 PM (GT8Ln)

267 When you have a lot of people free to voice an opinion and guess, on the average, a lot of truth gets exposed.
==
It was an op. There wasn't anything provable, "exposed" by Q. The Epstein stuff was already in the wind. I think it delayed and tamped down the reaction, because we were all waiting for the 'storm' that never came, and the 30,000 indictments that never went anywhere, or the military tribunals at Gitmo etc etc etc. it was meant to distract and delay and demotivate political response. Promise a lot, then deliver disappointment. Very demotivational.

Posted by: Magic 8 ball at August 08, 2022 01:02 PM (caRb7)

268 I'm sure they'll make the rounds of Hannity, Hugh Hewitt et al, plus lots of fundraisng emails: "Give generously to RNC so we can keep the heat on the scoundrels!"

Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Epps Is A Fed at August 08, 2022 01:02 PM (yA3qV)

269 recall absolutely no one saying anything of the sort.
This, if true, would be news to most.
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit
___

I remember EVERYONE here saying WTF is Trump doing.

It's just common sense that people like Wray and Comey knew all about Russiagate and what was going on.

Even if you weren't positive, clean house and drain the swamp like you promised.

Posted by: Blago at August 08, 2022 01:02 PM (PwNLq)

270 Trump also used Christie as his debate coach in 2020.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2022 12:57 PM (NpAcC)

I wouldn't hire Chris Christie as a weight gain coach. But then I don't suppose Trump needed any advice to look smarter than Biden, even when the entire media was desperately propping up the latter.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 01:02 PM (Z98iW)

271 whats the diff between the Gestapo and the FBI-

at this point, it's just body count, for the moment--Plus- FBI wears Brooks Brothers, Gestapo wore Hugo Boss

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 01:03 PM (geLO8)

272 I like the photos from the flushed docs story.

You know, cause writing from a felt-tip pen remains legible--with no bleeding!--after being submerged in water and surviving an attempt at flushing, aka 1.7 gallons of water swirled over the surface.

But still legible! That's one of those Astronaut Pens from the space shuttle, isn't it?!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2022 01:03 PM (hfGW2)

273 Trump did a lot of good things. He also made a lot of grievous mistakes.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 08, 2022 01:04 PM (sI15f)

274
The only reason why Pam Geller is alive is because local cops interceded and took down the terrorists.

9/11 was an inside job only not the way Loose Changes imagines it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2022 01:01 PM (n/8Ck)

And one was a freaking beast with the headshot, dropping a dude in seconds. Skill sure, but there was fortune behind that training as well.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 08, 2022 01:04 PM (53oGX)

275 never forget this
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 08, 2022 01:00 PM (w0NJk)

+2

Donald Trump had his bad calls and failures or nerve, like anyone, but the difference between him and Bush/ Romney is night and day. It's no coincidence that the "megadonors" are so desperate to get Trump out.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 01:04 PM (Z98iW)

276 I apologize for such an extreme statement- it's just that I used to think the FBI were the good guys

I don't anymore

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 01:05 PM (geLO8)

277 105 Good. Bring more of this out. This was the executive branch treating Congress with great arrogance and contempt, lying to them, prevaricating, then sauntering off on his own schedule to fly around on the taxpayer dime.

He treated the Senate with the respect that institution is due. The Congress as a whole is a pointless joke and the more people who know that, the better. If the Congress is tired of being a pointless joke, well, they have the power of the purse. It can defund the DoJ until it gets substantive answers.

Congress behaves like it is unworthy of respect, and it is treated without respect.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 12:31 PM (WWh8n)

If Steve Bannon did what Chris Wray did, he'd probably still be going to jail for a few days, but it would have been worth it for the J6 Committee to get what they deserve.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 08, 2022 01:05 PM (5gOkx)

278 This leggy blonde in a pink dress and shoes wonders why a big-shot like Wray gets Gulfstream jet privileges when he's a public servant who could be flying commercial or catching a lift on an existing transport:
https://is.gd/v92yGJ

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 01:05 PM (WWh8n)

279 The LE/IC knew these guys were in the country, knew what they were up to and allowed them to accomplish their mission.

I recall just days after the WTC was taken down, news reports stated that the Feebs were out there rounding up all these suspected islamic jihadists/terrorists.

So I wondered: They didn't know where these guys were 2 days ago, but they all of a sudden know today?

Then PBS Frontline did a special about a former Feeb, who left and got a job as head of security at one of the towers, John O'Neill. "The Man Who Knew".

It described how Agent O'Neill's unit had figured out Mohammed Atta and some others who were involved,
located the network...and no one in his chain of command or anywhere in IC would do anything about it.

He died on 9/11 trying to get people out of the tower.

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 01:05 PM (dCxaZ)

280 Indian man gets blackout drunk with strangers, then starts having stomach pains. After several visits to doctors, he has an XRay that prompts immediate surgery. Surgeons remove a remarkably large cup from the man.

https://bit.ly/3SzjL0V

They theorize someone jammed the cup up his butt.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 01:06 PM (eyxn4)

281 Anyone sensing that Wray knows he's not long for the job?
Posted by: Puddinhead

I'm sensing that he, like many others in the administrative state, believe that they aren't subject to conventions, rules, or laws, and are happy to let us know.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 08, 2022 01:06 PM (IEa8U)

282 Donald Trump had his bad calls and failures or nerve, like anyone, but the difference between him and Bush/ Romney is night and day. It's no coincidence that the "megadonors" are so desperate to get Trump out.

yes, this.

this election cycle (primaries) has been illuminating. the GOPe forces are being very open in their treachery, and thankfully they are generally unsuccessful despite connections and money.

they were sweating a bit after initial rounds of primaries, but I think they're REALLY sweating now. not a coincidence that the Steal Money Bill had to be rushed right after the AZ primary.

they're stealing everything that isn't nailed down as quickly as possible before the winds change

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 08, 2022 01:06 PM (w0NJk)

283 Collective noun contest: A Fredo of CongressCritters.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM

A swamp of congresscritters.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 08, 2022 01:07 PM (4p7Em)

284 Defending American lives is racist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

285 A dying republic, if you can keep it.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 08, 2022 01:07 PM (rJ48h)

286 I thought you'd be in the 'fall of Western Civilization' and 'financial collapse' team.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 12:37 PM (XvPQV)

That has already occurred.

See any civil unrest?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 08, 2022 12:42 PM (zajeO)

Nah. I can still buy food with money. Road maintenance still happens, power is still on. Collapse doesn't look like this.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 01:07 PM (XvPQV)

287 I don't buy the WTC collapsing because of hidden explosives instead of, you know, a passenger jet slamming into each main building with nearly full tanks of jet fuel (which can, in fact, melt steel enough to make it soft and incapable of bearing loads).
==
They hide things in plain sight by using disinformation. They tell a story soo ridiculous that it is dismissed as the view of crazy people and then the entire topic is off limits.

Aliens. "I was kidnapped and butt probed!!!!" Ha ha, that a joke can you believe those idiots? See how it works. Aliens were not polite conversation for two decades at least.

Well the navy has videos of UFOs they can't explain and now we've seen them. If they want to make a topic off limits they stigmatize it as something CRAZY people believe.

Posted by: Magic 8 ball at August 08, 2022 01:07 PM (Sv5Pf)

288 286 Nah. I can still buy food with money. Road maintenance still happens, power is still on. Collapse doesn't look like this.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 01:07 PM (XvPQV)

=========

Breeders are out and about, not chained up in large, stone towers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

289 262 257 Because he is the only person to have held the job and actually tried to do what he promised. No one else in my lifetime has done that.

never forget this
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 08, 2022 01:00 PM (w0NJk)

+1
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 01:01 PM (XvPQV)

+100. We have a collective case of amnesia if we don't acknowledge that Trump did what no other Republican has ever done.

Trump is sui generis. Only DeSantis comes close.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 08, 2022 01:08 PM (5gOkx)

290 I'm sensing that he, like many others in the administrative state, believe that they aren't subject to conventions, rules, or laws, and are happy to let us know.

I sense this as well.

Honestly it's not like I'm predicting any kind of violent uprising per se. I just can sense it despite the fear of LIVs just sitting around. how does it go, generally, when someone like Pelosi tries to make a public appearance? even in a blue state?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 08, 2022 01:08 PM (w0NJk)

291 289 +100. We have a collective case of amnesia if we don't acknowledge that Trump did what no other Republican has ever done.

Trump is sui generis. Only DeSantis comes close.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 08, 2022 01:08 PM (5gOkx)

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To be completely fair, if Liz Cheney becomes president, she will do what she promises: arrested Donald Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

292 280 Indian man gets blackout drunk with strangers, then starts having stomach pains. After several visits to doctors, he has an XRay that prompts immediate surgery. Surgeons remove a remarkably large cup from the man.

https://bit.ly/3SzjL0V

They theorize someone jammed the cup up his butt.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 01:06 PM (eyxn4)

His stomach hurt, but not his anus? Hmm....

Posted by: Thrawn at August 08, 2022 01:09 PM (Rl7KJ)

293 Chinese military fires missiles over Taiwan for first time ever
Posted by: It's Happening at August 08, 2022 12:41 PM

Hans Brix will be issuing a sternly worded letter shortly.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 08, 2022 01:09 PM (4p7Em)

294 265 "I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings. Coming down is the hardest thing."

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 08, 2022 01:09 PM (vcv8B)

295 The only Burning Time that is to come is when the Lord returns.

Jesus is coming ... And boy is he pissed!

Posted by: Paladin at August 08, 2022 01:09 PM (+Ivv+)

296 "9/11 was an inside job only not the way Loose Changes imagines it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender"

It is a sad state of affairs that my distrust and loathing of the govt/MSMS /ruling class is so great I am now willing to consider something like that. I believe nothing that comes from them.

Posted by: Ripley at August 08, 2022 01:10 PM (MxEKc)

297 if I was Trump, I would ask for a list of the 50 most qualified

and then have that fifty arrested

next fifty !!

Posted by: REDACTED at August 08, 2022 01:10 PM (us2H3)

298 They theorize someone jammed the cup up his butt.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 01:06 PM (eyxn4)

Someone lost a bet.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 01:10 PM (UuD2k)

299 283 Collective noun contest: A Fredo of CongressCritters.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM

A swamp of congresscritters.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 08, 2022 01:07 PM (4p7Em)

A Confederacy of Dunces.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 08, 2022 01:11 PM (5gOkx)

300 The GOP is currently cowering in fear, and, there may be some justification for that fear.

The GOP knows the current DOJ isn't above sending agents to raid their homes on the flimsiest of pretexts.
=
No shit.

Posted by: Ted Stevens - Longest Serving Senator at time - convicted - right before election lost Convi reve at August 08, 2022 12:45 PM (vxk8J)

I could probably count the number of GOPers I might give the benefit of doubt as brave, strong men of principle on one hand.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 01:11 PM (U3uv2)

301 Are there ten honest people left in government?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2022 01:11 PM (VAnv2)

302 David McCullough passed away. He was 89. I really like his biographies and histories.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A Pox on Your Minkey at August 08, 2022 01:12 PM (xPJvm)

303 They theorize someone jammed the cup up his butt.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 01:06 PM (eyxn4)

His cup bendeth over.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 08, 2022 01:12 PM (zajeO)

304 Nood [insert your own title]

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 08, 2022 01:12 PM (vcv8B)

305 At least we do not have to show our papers to travel

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at August 08, 2022 01:13 PM (YdLYB)

306 "I know that he will again serve his country as a fierce guardian of the law and model of integrity once the Senate confirms him to lead the F.B.I.," Mr. Trump said in the statement.

But we totally need Trump back in there to fix things.
Posted by: Blago

Well, he couldn't say 'This is the best I can get through the senate.' That is an underwhelming announcement.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 08, 2022 01:13 PM (lTGtQ)

307 they were sweating a bit after initial rounds of primaries, but I think they're REALLY sweating now. not a coincidence that the Steal Money Bill had to be rushed right after the AZ primary.

they're stealing everything that isn't nailed down as quickly as possible before the winds change
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 08, 2022 01:06 PM (w0NJk)

My concern is there are now more regular elections to toss to the Dems.
The GOP has never been afraid to throw an election to the Dems, ever.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 08, 2022 01:13 PM (53oGX)

308 To be completely fair, if Liz Cheney becomes president, she will do what she promises: arrested Donald Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

If near 29+ me told 20 year old me that Dems would be supporting a member of a "war criminal" family in about 20 years, I would have thought I was going mad.

Posted by: Thrawn at August 08, 2022 01:13 PM (Rl7KJ)

309
nood title-less Ace

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 08, 2022 01:13 PM (ENBF0)

310 The only Burning Time that is to come is when the Lord returns.

Jesus is coming ... And boy is he pissed!

Posted by: Paladin at August 08, 2022 01:09 PM (+Ivv+)

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And hell's coming with him!

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 01:14 PM (KXAsT)

311 They theorize someone jammed the cup up his butt.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 01:06 PM (eyxn4)

His stomach hurt, but not his anus? Hmm....
==
What Thrawn is trying to delicately put, is that this wasn't his Anus's first rodeo.

Posted by: Magic 8 ball at August 08, 2022 01:14 PM (oEgLo)

312 302 David McCullough passed away. He was 89. I really like his biographies and histories.

Posted by: Pug Mahon
---------------------------
McCullough and Thomas Fleming were the premier historians of the US. Their place will be taken by hacks of the leftist variety.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2022 01:14 PM (CXr4y)

313 Aliens. "I was kidnapped and butt probed!!!!" Ha ha, that a joke can you believe those idiots? See how it works. Aliens were not polite conversation for two decades at least.

It wasn't aliens, it was gays. Why would aliens care about butts?

Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2022 01:14 PM (ZGrMX)

314 Disagree with the government? Hire 80,000 extra IRS agents. Look at Alex Jones. Extreme financial punishment, but you get the picture.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 08, 2022 01:14 PM (IW8z9)

315 "Well the navy has videos of UFOs they can't explain and now we've seen them. If they want to make a topic off limits they stigmatize it as something CRAZY people believe."

This is the evil genius of propaganda: combining something true, that you want off-limits, with enough crazy to make all related topics toxic.

Exhibit A: "white replacement theory" and "white nationalism": combining something true (that the left wants to replace/dilute traditional-Americans) with the racial angle (that is truly fringe) and you can't talk about whether it matters how many New Americans we get, or where they come from.

I'm also convinced that the dual purpose of "Russia collusion" was to (a) Get Trump (of course) but also (b) to make allegations BY Trump or GOP of Hillary's Russian corruption (Uranium 1/Rosatom) off limits.

Posted by: Zek at August 08, 2022 01:14 PM (OzNIz)

316 To paraphrase Stalin - James Madison founded our state and we've fucked it up.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 08, 2022 01:14 PM (es0Dj)

317 >>> 287

==
They hide things in plain sight by using disinformation. They tell a story soo ridiculous that it is dismissed as the view of crazy people and then the entire topic is off limits.

Aliens. "I was kidnapped and butt probed!!!!" Ha ha, that a joke can you believe those idiots? See how it works. Aliens were not polite conversation for two decades at least.

Well the navy has videos of UFOs they can't explain and now we've seen them. If they want to make a topic off limits they stigmatize it as something CRAZY people believe.
Posted by: Magic 8 ball at August 08, 2022 01:07 PM (Sv5Pf)

Heh. H Beam Piper had his Paratime Police do this. Some dude screwed up and flew his real spacecraft too close to Earth in our timeline where they were seen by a military pilot in 1947 (I can't remember the name but this was a real "unidentified" sighting). So the paracops ran around hypnotizing randos in the US and elsewhere with crazy stories to discredit the pilot's report. Later his main character does something similar to "explain" the disappearance of another guy from our timeline. Seems like he was right about it working...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 01:14 PM (llON8)

318 If near 29+ me told 20 year old me that Dems would be supporting a member of a "war criminal" family in about 20 years, I would have thought I was going mad.
==
You are. We all are. Wormhole passage into the Cthulu universe. Its a side effect.

Posted by: Magic 8 ball at August 08, 2022 01:15 PM (oEgLo)

319 Because he is the only person to have held the job and actually tried to do what he promised. No one else in my lifetime has done that.

never forget this
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 08, 2022 01:00 PM (w0NJk)

Just not true. The biggest thing I dislike about Trump advocates are they are just like Trump in that they have to put others down to build him up. Just use his accomplishments to advocate.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 08, 2022 01:15 PM (sWbrH)

320 >>> 301 Are there ten honest people left in government?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2022 01:11 PM (VAnv2)

No.

Send Us Thine Asteroid, O Lord.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 01:16 PM (llON8)

321 The only way the government is kept honest is by the media. Thank goodness for intrepid independent bloggers et al and talk radio so at least some of our government's corruption is exposed and known by some folks. But unfortunately even though a large majority of folks will poll as no longer trusting the FNM, they have not gone digging and found better news sources and the established media are in cahoots with the government against the citizens.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 08, 2022 01:17 PM (3cGpq)

322 I don't buy the WTC collapsing because of hidden explosives instead of, you know, a passenger jet slamming into each main building with nearly full tanks of jet fuel (which can, in fact, melt steel enough to make it soft and incapable of bearing loads). However, it wasn't long after the attacks that we heard of an FBI agent reporting to his superiors that a bunch of Arabic men were learning to fly but not land and his "superiors" had told him to shut up because racism.

That, plus the stories about flying a bunch of bin Ladin's relatives out of CONUS in the 24-ish hours after the attacks.

And BTW, I _still_ want to know where the Uvalde punk got the money for two Daniel Defense rifles.

Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Epps Is A Fed at August 08, 2022 01:18 PM (yA3qV)

323 Hannity is a CIA asset. He even wears their lapel pin. Trust nothing from him.

Posted by: TheMitch at August 08, 2022 01:19 PM (cDITE)

324 This is what I find so discouraging -- that the lives of Americans mean absolutely nothing to the people in power, not our own "representatives" or the people of WEF. That human beings can desire to wipe out millions of other human beings, just because, is hard to understand. I don't understand it. I never will. People just want to live and work and have a family and live in freedom with peace. Well, most people. I know it's evil, I know it's satanic, but I just can't wrap my head around it.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 08, 2022 01:19 PM (BjGT6)

325
Just not true. The biggest thing I dislike about Trump advocates are they are just like Trump in that they have to put others down to build him up. Just use his accomplishments to advocate.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 08, 2022 01:15 PM (sWbrH)

A Wise Man once said: "Ask and you shall receive. Seek and you shall find."

https://tinyurl.com/56b3kn34

I saved the above doc as a PDF, it's 58 pages long.

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 01:20 PM (dCxaZ)

326 if I'm hiring someone for FBI Director, preferably it would be someone from outside the department.

Otherwise it should be some head of a field office that has never spent any time in DC.

Short of abolishing the agency, the next best thing would be to fire at least the first 5 levels of leadership.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at August 08, 2022 01:20 PM (V6W16)

327 If you morons don't want to access the above link, here are some bullet points:

Unprecedented Economic Boom

Before the China Virus invaded our shores, we built the world’s most prosperous economy.

America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections.
Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration.
The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 01:21 PM (dCxaZ)

328 That human beings can desire to wipe out millions of other human beings, just because, is hard to understand. I don't understand it. I never will.
___________

I understand it pretty well. Pshew, another hot one today.

Posted by: A. Shickelgruber at August 08, 2022 01:21 PM (fs1hN)

329 ...continued:

Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160 million.
Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record.
Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades.

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 01:22 PM (dCxaZ)

330 Category 2 of Trump Administration Accomplishments

Delivered a future of greater promise and opportunity for citizens of all backgrounds.

Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade.
The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent increase in net worth.
Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16 percent pay increase.
African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 01:24 PM (dCxaZ)

331 Brought jobs, factories, and industries back to the USA.

Created more than 1.2 million manufacturing and construction jobs.
Put in place policies to bring back supply chains from overseas.
Small business optimism broke a 35-year old record in 2018.

Hit record stock market numbers and record 401ks.

The DOW closed above 20,000 for the first time in 2017 and topped 30,000 in 2020.
The S&P 500 and NASDAQ have repeatedly notched record highs.

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 01:25 PM (dCxaZ)

332 I'm not going to post all the text of the 58 page document. If you go to the link, all the bullet points are further described in detail with actual real world examples and cites of legislation, etc.

But the guy said that no one every posts Trump's accomplishments without putting someone else down, so I posted some of the accomplishments without putting anyone else down, e.g. two useless GOPe Bushes.

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 01:27 PM (dCxaZ)

333 Collective noun contest: A Fredo of CongressCritters.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 12:38 PM

A swamp of congresscritters.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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A Clutch of Quislings

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 08, 2022 01:29 PM (5zg1j)

334 Them dirty Dems done snookered us again, Cletus!

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at August 08, 2022 01:29 PM (sWM8x)

335 I don't buy the WTC collapsing because of hidden explosives instead of, you know, a passenger jet slamming into each main building with nearly full tanks of jet fuel (which can, in fact, melt steel enough to make it soft and incapable of bearing loads).

The explosions that were reported were due to the jet fuel streaming down the building, hitting the electrical stacks that were in place every 4 floors or so.

Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2022 01:31 PM (dCxaZ)

336 kallisto - Thanks, bookmarked.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 08, 2022 01:32 PM (5zg1j)

337 jan 2023, chris wray on hot seat more than in his job seat. yea

Posted by: gov't here to help at August 08, 2022 01:32 PM (h2Opm)

338 I guess this puts to rout Cruz's little kiss-up to Wray that he didn't suspect HIM of politicizing things.

So is Cruz righteously offended and determined to call him back to the carpet? Yeah, right.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 08, 2022 01:33 PM (H8QX8)

339
[wanders off to Nood]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 08, 2022 01:36 PM (5zg1j)

340 The Adirondacks? Hmmm. . .

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 08, 2022 01:36 PM (lf83v)

341 Unfortunately, all these bozos seem to care about is catching him in "gotchas". How about this ?

So, Russia Collusion was not a "hoax" ? What word would you use to describe it, if not "hoax" ?

Don't know anything about agents in Missouri asking about concealed carry permits ? Don't know anything about the training site that says the Betsy Ross flag is a sign of domestic terrorists ?

GO BACK TO THE FBI AND FIND OUT AND WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE TOMORROW

Posted by: deadrody at August 08, 2022 01:37 PM (SnywI)

342 142 Govexec dot com: Attorney General Perks Include Personal Use of Agency Aircraft. Department spends millions on non-mission travel, GAO finds.
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Okay that's the AG but Wray is not AG.

Posted by: Ciampino - whip him from John O'Groats to Landsend at August 08, 2022 02:06 PM (qfLjt)

343 "I wouldn't hire Chris Christie as a weight gain coach."

he surely cashed in heavily off the Big Sandy $65B extravaganza. $15B for storm damage, the rest pork for hungry governors everywhere. iirc

Posted by: illiniwek at August 08, 2022 02:08 PM (Cus5s)

344 Another bonus about dissolving the FBI would be that paranoid schizophrenics would not have that excuse to fight against them anymore like that telepathy sufferer in Ohio who slaughtered that elderly married couple and the young mom and daughter 2 days ago.

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at August 08, 2022 02:12 PM (e4aaF)

345 Has Sen. Grassley ever gotten any new updates about the Julie Swetnick perjury investigation from the Kavanaugh Senate hearing clownshow in 2017? He wrote that open letter to the DOJ in 2018 and did not get a response. I cannot find any evidence that she was ever arraigned on perjury for her false gangrape story and her support by felon Avenatti her legal representative. Surely, she could have been convicted by a new DOJ hire lawyer before lunch as it was sooo blatant a lie. This was under DOJ Defender Barr's watch of course.

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at August 08, 2022 02:16 PM (e4aaF)

346 I get paid more than $85 every hour for working on the web. I found out about this activity 3 months prior and subsequent to joining this I have earned effectively $15k from this without having internet working abilities

Copy underneath the site to check it.. http://www.salarycash1.com

Posted by: Sarah at August 08, 2022 02:26 PM (PZef2)

347 Wray has nothing to worry about from Republican senators. They won't even bring it up at his next hearing.

Posted by: Valiant at August 08, 2022 02:32 PM (cy2xC)

348 And again, nothing will happen.

I'd like to get upset at these things, but why bother?

Nothing. Will. Happen.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at August 08, 2022 02:53 PM (TU8Tj)

349 I really can't understand all the grousing. You're going to vote them all out in the next selection, anyway. Right?

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (Y206u)

350 Maybe he should hitch a ride on Travolta's 707 or with Gore the Bore

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 08, 2022 06:56 PM (wGqjj)

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Revealed: The Criminal Chris Wray Gave the Senate the Finger Claiming He Had an Unmissable Plane He Had to Catch.That Plane -- Paid for By the Taxpayers -- Was Taking Him To His Weekend Vacation Venue, Of Course.

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Revealed: The Criminal Chris Wray Gave the Senate the Finger Claiming He Had an Unmissable Plane He Had to Catch.
That Plane -- Paid for By the Taxpayers -- Was Taking Him To His Weekend Vacation Venue, Of Course.