Sussman Was Acquitted Because of a Partisan DC Jury.<br>And Because the FBI Colluded With Sussman From the Beginning.

Sussman Was Acquitted Because of a Partisan DC Jury.
And Because the FBI Colluded With Sussman From the Beginning.

Yes, as mentioned earlier, the jury was stacked with literal Hillary Clinton donors who no doubt realized that Hillary herself would be in legal peril if one of her underlings were convicted of a felony while acting as her minion.

And one of the jurors was Sussman's daughter's crew team-mate, which the Democrat judge said "Seems fine to me" about.

But, as Jonathan Turley points out, Sussman was acquitted because he had friends in high places --the 7th floor of the FBI headquarters, to be specific.

During the trial, Clinton campaign general counsel Marc Elias and campaign manager Robby Mook both said the campaign trusted the media to push the story. They were right: Slate quickly ran it, and then Clinton and one of her aides, Jake Sullivan (now President Biden's national security adviser), released statements expressing alarm about the claim as if it were news to them.
The Clinton campaign similarly pushed the infamous Steele dossier into the news, too, after secretly helping to fund it. And both the Steele dossier and the Alfa Bank claim was pushed to friends in the FBI.
Regardless of what the jury decides regarding Sussmann, the combined record of the Steele dossier and the Alfa Bank claim makes the FBI look like an unindicted co-conspirator.

Let me interrupt to point out that the only witness to the fact that Sussman represented that he was not working for any client, but was only a concerned citizen bringing a tip to the FBI out of his own sense of conscience, was James Baker.

And James Baker had been... inconsistent in whether Sussman had in fact represented that he was acting on his own.

Possibly... deliberately inconsistent? Like maybe he had some gaps in memory because he didn't want Sussman to get into trouble, because Michael Sussman is (as he admits below) "his friend"?

Now, there was a smoking gun piece of evidence that Sussman represented that he was acting alone: A text from Sussman to Baker.

But Baker -- the top lawyer to the FBI -- never produced that text to Durham until it was too late for Durham to introduce it at trial.

Again, was this deliberate?

Let's see Baker's answer as to why this top lawyer for the FBI and DOJ employee withheld key evidence until it was no longer damaging to his "friend" Michael Sussman:

On the witness stand in Sussmann's trial, for example, FBI general counsel James Baker was asked why it took him so long to turn over the most damaging evidence -- a text message to him in which Sussmann said he was not representing any client in pushing the Alfa Bank claim to FBI officials. Baker explained that Sussmann was his friend and told prosecutors that "this is not my investigation. This is your investigation."

Did he just... admit he deliberately withheld key evidence from his employer the FBI and the DOJ to protect his friend?

In other words, there was no reason for the Justice Department to expect that Baker, a former top Justice lawyer, would help to make the case against Sussmann.

There was no reason for a DOJ employee to cooperate with a DOJ investigation??!!

I guess that is clarifying. It's not about whether it's a DOJ investigation or not, it's whether it's aligned with the Democrat Ruling Class cabal or against them.

It did not help the optics when Baker left the Justice Department and joined Brookings Institution, liberal think tank linked to key figures who framed the early Russian collusion claims. For some, it seemed like not just friends but "friends with benefits."

Jonathan Turley notes that liberal demanded that Mueller write and publicize a report on Russiagate, even though he'd failed to discover any crimes. They wanted a report to allege crimes that could not be proved.

Turley very much doubts there will be a similar demand for Durham to write such a report -- in fact, there will be shrieking if he does endeavor to write a report about what he believes might have happened.

If Durham does not issue such a report, much of the true story behind the Russia collusion scandal could be buried. Indeed, even if control of Congress were to flip to Republicans in November, the Justice Department could refuse to turn over investigatory material and information. That is precisely what many in Washington undoubtedly would like to happen.
Yet, after the glimpses offered in Sussmann prosecution of still undisclosed evidence, the public deserves to have a full Durham report on how these scandals were conceived and crafted among "friends."

A week ago I wrote about the fact that the leadership of the FBI was concealing the name of the informant -- Michael Sussman -- from the agents assigned to investigate the tip.

The agents wanted the name because sometimes that information is useful to evaluating the tip. It would have been highly useful in evaluating this tip -- they would immediately have said, "Hillary Clinton's lawyer? Trash" and began wrapping up the investigation into the already-preposterous-seeming tip.

And that's exactly why the leadership of the FBI withheld that vital name from the agents -- they wanted them to keep investigating the bullshit claim. They didn't want them to realize it was a bullshit politically-motivated oppo-research bit of nonsense and dismiss it. They wanted the probe into Trump to keep going and going and going.

So here's the thing:

Sussman's lawyers then argued at trial that his lie about acting alone couldn't have been "material" -- couldn't have actually impacted the investigation -- because, obviously, the leadership of the FBI, Strzok, Comey, and Baker, all knew the truth and knew exactly who Sussman was and exactly who he was really working for.

They were hiding that from the agents, yes. But they themselves knew. "The FBI" as a corporate institution knew the truth.

Therefore, the lie was not "material," which makes it a non-criminal lie.

Was he wrong about that?

Probably not. The FBI's corruption has the side-effect of rendering its co-conspirators immune from prosecution.

Victoria Taft at PJM:

Both sides in the trial have taken aim at the FBI. John Durham's special counsel prosecutors have argued that the same FBI that took Hillary's so-called oppo research and used it to frame Trump were somehow duped into believing this tripe. Testimony showed that the line agents were forced to investigate when they knew the information was partial garbage but were ordered to keep going by the 7th-floor executive suite.
At the same time, Sussmann's attorney argued that those FBI executives weren't duped at all! He dismissed the FBI investigation into his client as "shoddy" and "an embarrassment." They knew for whom Sussmann worked--Hillary, the DNC, and his tech executive who helped make up the lies. Notwithstanding Durham's evidence against Sussmann to the contrary, he argued that nobody at the FBI was duped because they knew he worked for Hillary's campaign, he argued. Indeed, "Mr. Sussmann had DNC and HFA [Hillary for America] tattooed on his forehead, they (FBI) assumed that's where the information came from," he told jurors. And that means, he reasoned, Sussmann may have lied and said he didn't come on behalf of any client, but it wasn't a big, material lie because they should have known he was lying.

In other words: Sure, there was a lie here. And that lie was told by the senior leadership of the FBI. Blame them, not Sussman.

Can't say that argument is without merit.

At some point, the system becomes so corrupt it becomes incapable of producing outcomes that are anything other than corruption. That's where we are now.

That's a lot of Blackpill stuff. Here's Margot Cleveland to argue that some good came of this-- notably, the exposure of the deep rot and fundamental unreformability of the FBI and DOJ themselves.

And, of course:

Durham Proved the Collusion Hoax Was a Hillary Clinton Enterprise

and:

Killing the Alfa Bank Hoax For Good

But did it do either of those?

The left, as personified in the ugliness of Jonathan Chait, is already claiming that the acquittal proves that the Alfa Bank Hoax was really all just a right-wing conspiracy theory, and it's still a very real, very plausible theory to claim that Trump had a secret computer talking with a Russian bank.

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1 Mhmm.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2022 06:18 PM (4NlP1)

2 HAT TRICK

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 31, 2022 06:18 PM (ppBhU)

3 You were saying?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2022 06:18 PM (4NlP1)

4 Yeah, you know what happens to unindicted coconspirators?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 31, 2022 06:19 PM (ppBhU)

5 They are covering up the coup d'etat from the Deep State and Hildabeast

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2022 06:19 PM (2JoB8)

6 Yeah, you know what happens to unindicted coconspirators?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 31, 2022 06:19 PM (ppBhU)

Book deal? The comfy chair?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:19 PM (nByzo)

7 You were saying?

That's just hurtful, Freeman.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 31, 2022 06:19 PM (ppBhU)

8 *hic*

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at May 31, 2022 06:21 PM (Mf7Vh)

9
Margot Cleveland is an outstanding journalist and she has done phenomenal work documenting this whole thing for a few years now.

That said, I tend to agree with Ace in assuming this really is all for naught. The most optimistic view I can have is the truth will out but in the very long run.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2022 06:22 PM (s2VJv)

10 >>>the exposure of the deep rot and fundamental unreformability of the FBI and DOJ themselves

More cluebat stuff than blackpill stuff.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:22 PM (nByzo)

11 "At some point, the system becomes so corrupt it becomes incapable of producing outcomes that are anything other than corruption. That's where we are now."

uhuh, yup, innit just zackley ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:22 PM (P57A6)

12 The evidence against Scooter Libby was far , far less incriminating. He was of the wrong Party.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:23 PM (4+wAL)

13 The FBI knows better than to try and dig up dirt on Hillary!.

Posted by: Flyguy at May 31, 2022 06:23 PM (9xtmp)

14 Who cares? Honest question, I doubt there is anyone here that thought he was going to get convicted. Red herring stuff from durham, he knew it wasn't going to stick and is just wasting our tax dollars at this point.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 31, 2022 06:23 PM (bVYXr)

15 By the way, the FBI probably could have gotten a conviction on this guy lying to them.... if they had TAPED THE INTERVIEW LIKE EVERY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE U.S.

Posted by: pookysgirl, stating the obvious at May 31, 2022 06:23 PM (XKZwp)

16 12 The evidence against Scooter Libby was far , far less incriminating. He was of the wrong Party.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:23 PM (4+wAL)

See also: Richard Nixon. What he was guilty of was at the most, something suitable for censure.

Of course, that's not what happened.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (s2VJv)

17 Hillary is up in Chappaqua tonight getting loaded and laughing her ass off.

Posted by: Shooter MczGavin at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (Vjok0)

18 Doesn't matter if the trail brought out the truth because the MSM will tell their viewers what to believe.

The laws for them and the laws for them the rest can suck on a lemon (that would be us).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (JzBU4)

19 Yeah it's rigged. No, it doesn't matter that they got caught.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (b2nrj)

20 I read Margaret Cleveland but this IMO will get sunk into the ocean, he was cleared so it didn't happen and the Democrats Propaganda Ministry will cheer its all a Conservative fake story.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (2JoB8)

21 Hopefully Jackstraw will stick around this time. I mean that. No one is going to dunk on him.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (4+wAL)

22 This is reading like a Jason Bourne novel, but the Feds don't ever get caught.

Posted by: Roy at May 31, 2022 06:25 PM (Ti+Tv)

23 We are well and truly past the rule of law.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 06:25 PM (70Vdl)

24 oh & thx for poasting this, ace, i saw it earlier & waited for your post to comment on it, but you summed it up pretty well.
i mean srsly, what the actual f was anyone expecting ?

durham, LOL,
*spits*
ayfkm ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:25 PM (P57A6)

25 Doesn't the fact that the jury was stacked and that's come out, set Durham up to appeal the verdict?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 31, 2022 06:27 PM (ZSK0i)

26 Rhetorical question: if you say something that isn't true to a co-conspirator in an effort to create a legal pretext for other misdeeds, have you "lied" to that co-conspirator? They should all be in jail, but I see the case that he didn't "lie."

Posted by: Anotheranon at May 31, 2022 06:27 PM (8Ze5j)

27 sure is looking like lamp post time with this two tiers of justice going on.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 31, 2022 06:27 PM (UgAdJ)

28 #two weeks!

Posted by: Publius Secundus at May 31, 2022 06:27 PM (Ts8MA)

29 @25 — No.

Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 06:27 PM (vwnAA)

30 Evening.

Ive asked this question before and I will ask again.

Just how many bloody James Bakers are their in the US Government?!?

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 06:28 PM (5EaNh)

31 These trials and hearing provide excellent source material for those who make lists.

Personally, I think of DC as a turd.
It's not necessary to dissect a turd
to know what it's about.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2022 06:28 PM (gsaS2)

32 The rules are only for chumps and republicans

Vote harder tho

Posted by: Yo! Ultra Ultra MAGA at May 31, 2022 06:28 PM (RKm+4)

33 OT: for a quick laff, look at Bongino today. He's red as a bing cherry. Turn down the color saturation on your monitor first, to avoid screen damage.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 06:28 PM (qpX6U)

34 Donald Trump, a duly elected president, was confronted by Strzok (and a confederacy of cartel seditionists) with "we will stop him". And that indeed is what the DeepState mafia did ... they stopped Trump, manufactured evidence against him and Flynn and others, ran a color war against America itself.

And that is still where we are ... the DeepState criminal cartel conspiring with oligarchs to overthrow America, overthrow "The West", and rule us all with the iron fist of -- whatever they might call it. New World Order ... communism by any other name, would stink the same.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 31, 2022 06:29 PM (Cus5s)

35 started drinking when my wristwatch hit 17:00:00, should probably stop now ... lol

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:29 PM (P57A6)

36 should probably stop now ... lol
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:29 PM (P57A6)

One more. One more won't hurt.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 06:30 PM (5EaNh)

37 Oops - wrong nic. Heh.

Hey horde - hello from Hong Kong!

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 31, 2022 06:30 PM (Ts8MA)

38 what illiniwek said.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:30 PM (P57A6)

39 And you motherf*ckers had best stay off the grass.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 31, 2022 06:30 PM (c1p4Y)

40 sock_rat, I'll have one more glass with you.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 06:30 PM (70Vdl)

41 I am one who would rather see DeSantis as the nominee in 2024. Then this happens and I just want to throw Trump right back at these fuckers.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 31, 2022 06:31 PM (xPl2J)

42 Acquittals aren't appealed.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 31, 2022 06:31 PM (jTmQV)

43 "Killing the Alfa Bank Hoax For Good"

You can kill these hoaxes as dead as you want. Majority of the public still believes them, won't stop believing them.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 06:31 PM (qpX6U)

44 Oops - wrong nic. Heh.

Hey horde - hello from Hong Kong!
Posted by: Publius Redux at May 31, 2022 06:30 PM (Ts8MA)

Ace of Spades not blocked in Hong Kong?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:32 PM (4+wAL)

45
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2022 06:32 PM (ENBF0)

46 Publius Redux, what's the lockdown word from HK.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 06:33 PM (70Vdl)

47 "Hey horde - hello from Hong Kong!"

How's the food? Tasty? Affordable?

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 06:33 PM (qpX6U)

48 It's like a Tom Clancy novel for retards.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2022 06:33 PM (BP3/z)

49 Amazingly, none of this is news to any of us.

Now, is it?

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 06:33 PM (CLGrc)

50 "Hey horde - hello from Hong Kong!"

How's the food? Tasty? Affordable?

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 06:33 PM (qpX6U)

I'd advise against the bat soup.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:33 PM (nByzo)

51 Can we start negotiating the great separation?

Posted by: I guess I'll ask them at May 31, 2022 06:34 PM (IpaFL)

52 Durham Proved the Collusion Hoax Was a Hillary Clinton Enterprise

and:

Killing the Alfa Bank Hoax For Good

And no one is going to jail over it.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:34 PM (R/uuE)

53 Can we start negotiating the great separation?

Posted by: I guess I'll ask them at May 31, 2022 06:34 PM (IpaFL)

I'll start. They get nothing.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:34 PM (nByzo)

54 "One more. One more won't hurt.
Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 06:30 PM (5EaNh) "

there's a line in an H. Beam Piper story about 'you have one drink & it's lonely; so you have another to keep it company ... but two drinks together want to celebrate, so they invite a couple more ... '

(loosely paraphrased, i think it's in Little Fuzzy ... )

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:34 PM (P57A6)

55 53 Can we start negotiating the great separation?

Posted by: I guess I'll ask them at May 31, 2022 06:34 PM (IpaFL)

I'll start. They get nothing.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:34 PM (nByzo)

Let's be reasonable here, they get the debt.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2022 06:35 PM (b2nrj)

56 "I'd advise against the bat soup"

Bat soup is off, but the boiled dog penis is to die for.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 06:35 PM (qpX6U)

57 Everyone not plugged in to the government scandal and believes what the Democrat Propaganda Ministry tells them this story is done.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2022 06:35 PM (2JoB8)

58 Let's be reasonable here, they get the debt.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2022 06:35 PM (b2nrj)

I'm a reasonable man.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:35 PM (nByzo)

59 Geez this dump stinks. No seriously, passing by the municipal dump in Melissa,Texas where they built middle six digit $$$ homes across from it.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:36 PM (R/uuE)

60 >>there's a line in an H. Beam Piper story about 'you have one drink & it's lonely; so you have another to keep it company ... but two drinks together want to celebrate, so they invite a couple more ... '

(loosely paraphrased, i think it's in Little Fuzzy ... )

..

haha

there's an extension of that sort of joke in the Hitchhiker's Guide but I forget how it goes

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2022 06:36 PM (AkbRF)

61 Everyone not plugged in to the government scandal and believes what the Democrat Propaganda Ministry tells them this story is done.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2022 06:35 PM (2JoB

Worse. It is more ironclad proof that Cankles is the most investigated, cleanest, most law-abiding pol ever.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:37 PM (nByzo)

62
Seriously, though - this was a Big Win. Vote harder.

Posted by: @TheRealWilliamHayes at May 31, 2022 06:37 PM (FIJ+3)

63 These jackanapes will be bringing about The Great Reset, but probably not the one they're hoping for.

As they destroy respect for the law it will not be there when they need order. They will receive their due but it will lacking in process.

When the Department of Justice serves up Injustice, folks will seek other ways to brink about justice. Rough justice, but justice nevertheless.

"Be not deceived, God is not mocked. If you sow inequity you will reap a whirlwind."

Posted by: Minuteman at May 31, 2022 06:37 PM (LaNzR)

64 Geez, I thought Sussman was the volunteer patsy, with a promise of a cash payout to take the fall. Silly me.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at May 31, 2022 06:37 PM (vN+oL)

65 Margot Cleveland's smoking crack out of Hunter's pipe.

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 31, 2022 06:37 PM (1Fv0G)

66 >>there's an extension of that sort of joke in the Hitchhiker's Guide but I forget how it goes

That's a sign.

Maybe it is time we put it on the AoSHQ Book Club Reading List?

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 06:37 PM (CLGrc)

67 *clinks glass with Ben Had !*

*shot of organic gluten free vodka*
*lol*
*last of the Hamm's as a chaser*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:37 PM (P57A6)

68 Assman was acquitted because the law is an ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2022 06:38 PM (R/m4+)

69 I'll start. They get nothing.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:34 PM (nByzo)

Interesting. They have virtually everything right now.

Posted by: I guess I'll ask them at May 31, 2022 06:38 PM (IpaFL)

70 The federal government is totally, irretreivably corrupt. If there is ever to be any improvement on this, it will be imposed on the government by the citizenry. Imposed with extreme prejudice, as the spooks like to say.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 31, 2022 06:38 PM (sWM8x)

71 "But did it do either of those? "

The conspirators don't care what Durham is proving or not proving now. They know, and knew in advance, that they'd never face any criminal prosecution and even if prosecuted by some idiot like Durham, they'd get acquittals. They know precisely how corrupt the system is in their favor. They designed it. They built it. They know that even now, exposed, that they are safe.

The conspiracy worked. Donald Trump isn't the President. The coup succeeded. Every future coup against any Republican accidentally elected will also succeed.

Everything else is after-the-fact BS affecting nothing.

Posted by: JamesTCarville at May 31, 2022 06:38 PM (gHboz)

72 Geez this dump stinks. No seriously, passing by the municipal dump in Melissa,Texas where they built middle six digit $$$ homes across from it.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:36 PM (R/uuE)

I always thought things like that would be great if you were olfactorily disabled in some way. Probably lower cost in most places.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2022 06:38 PM (YsjiM)

73
Sussman is a member of that big club and you ain’t in it.

Posted by: YIKES! at May 31, 2022 06:39 PM (t6XCL)

74 Assman was acquitted because the law is an ass.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2022 06:38 PM (R/m4+)

Correct

Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at May 31, 2022 06:39 PM (Mf7Vh)

75 Worse. It is more ironclad proof that Cankles is the most investigated, cleanest, most law-abiding pol ever.
Posted by: Comrade flounder

THIS.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:39 PM (R/uuE)

76 Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency is calling Dominion voting systems into question.

That makes CISA RUSSIAN COLLABORATORS, right? Calling our election integrity into question is treason!

https://bit.ly/3wX26pX

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2022 06:40 PM (kDGvA)

77 None of this even touches the collusion with the Media.

And there was a ton of collusion found, iirc.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 06:40 PM (CLGrc)

78 Did anyone think Sussman would be convicted? I am only surprised that this actually went to trial. But the fix was in long before the first testimony and evidence were presented. Hillary will skate unless an actual counterrevolution emerges and holds her and the rest of the Deep State accountable for their treason.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at May 31, 2022 06:40 PM (RIfux)

79 Interesting. They have virtually everything right now.

Posted by: I guess I'll ask them at May 31, 2022 06:38 PM (IpaFL)

What do they really have? A civilization on a precipice, while they are busy fucking each other and fucking each other over for a bigger slice of debauchery and stolen goods.

I am not envious.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:41 PM (nByzo)

80 If there was an actual opposition party in the United States it might not have become the totalitarian shithole it is now. Communist pigs are gonna communist pig unless someone in power stops them, and the one man who might have was destroyed. It is time to re-examine the entirety of the United States. If anything needs to be put on the ballot this autumn, it should be whether to dissolve or not. If we had a fair election (giggle), I think dissolution would happen.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 31, 2022 06:41 PM (nMx88)

81 think you're right ace but i don't remember it either ... probably i read little fuzzy more times than hitchhikers guide ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:42 PM (P57A6)

82 Time for the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at May 31, 2022 06:42 PM (Azrlg)

83 What always galled me is that there was a handful of insiders (Comey, Stzrok, Paige, Baker, etc.) who handled all politically sensitive investigations in 2016. Why was this handful of people so indispensable that they had to handle the investigation into the real crime that HRC committed and whitewash it, while they also had to handle the investigation into the made-up non-crime that they knew from day one was bunk? (Recall that Comey, Mueller, and Fitzgerald were all asshole buddies, and they ran this play back in the second Bush term when they knew that Valerie Plame was definitionally NOT a clandestine service agent, and that Armitage leaked her identity on day one but proceeded with a special counsel investigation to create crimes for political purposes - I insist that it was an operation to shift the blame from the CIA to the Bush administration for intelligence failures going into Iraq).

Note that the Comey announced investigation into HRC because a local reporter revealed the Bill Clinton/Loretta Lynch tarmac meeting, and the reason Comey reopened the investigation when the Weiner laptop came to light was because field agents in SDNY threatened to leak it.

Posted by: Alec Leamas (working from home) at May 31, 2022 06:42 PM (dWn8u)

84 Answer honestly: If Al-Qaeda ran a plane into the Pentagon today, would you give a damn about anyone outside of the passengers and crew?

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 31, 2022 06:42 PM (1Fv0G)

85 Hopefully Jackstraw will stick around this time. I mean that. No one is going to dunk on him.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (4+wAL)

You sure?

Posted by: Screaming in from the arc with the ball and an attitude at May 31, 2022 06:42 PM (MFphb)

86 If you think the American experiment can still be saved you have to start with exposing the FNM corruption and building an honest news source.

Personally I'm in Atlas Shrugged mode and hoping if the fall of the republic happens hard and quickly; there will enough people who understand what made the country great originally to push through a 2nd iteration while the layabouts and commies are too shell shocked to get in the way.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 31, 2022 06:42 PM (3cGpq)

87 Huh. Paul Pelosi killed his brother in a car accident when he was 16 years old. Rolled a car.

Posted by: fd at May 31, 2022 06:43 PM (vrz2I)

88 Time for the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at May 31, 2022 06:42 PM (Azrlg)

*checks agenda*

Whoa! I thought we were still on the airing of the grievances.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:43 PM (nByzo)

89 My moral compass is so fucked up I'll change it whenever I find a new skirt to cheat on my current wife with!
Friends don't let interns intern with me if they're worried about dying.

Posted by: Morning BlowHard Joe at May 31, 2022 06:43 PM (tiwuF)

90 85 Hopefully Jackstraw will stick around this time. I mean that. No one is going to dunk on him.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (4+wAL)

Someone dunked on him this morning

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:43 PM (bs+z0)

91 Oh jeez, Bongino pushing cash-out refis now. 2007 all over again. He'll peddle any crooked shit if the ads pay him enough. Field of Greens, only $64 per 10 oz jar, such a deal.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 06:44 PM (qpX6U)

92 31 These trials and hearing provide excellent source material for those who make lists.

Personally, I think of DC as a turd.
It's not necessary to dissect a turd
to know what it's about.

----
Well some turds have worms in them.
[worm=democrap]

Posted by: Ciampino at May 31, 2022 06:44 PM (qfLjt)

93
Sussman is a member of that big club and you ain’t in it.
Posted by: YIKES!

Do you listen to Chris Markowski?

https://tinyurl.com/yj35npax

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2022 06:44 PM (63Dwl)

94 Hopefully Jackstraw will stick around this time. I mean that. No one is going to dunk on him.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (4+wAL)

Someone dunked on him this morning

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:43 PM (bs+z0)

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that there is dunking going on in here!

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (nByzo)

95 Whoa! I thought we were still on the airing of the grievances.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:43 PM (nByzo)

I have some problems with a few of you.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (Q+K8B)

96 Anyone that has been in the House or the Senate for more than 2 terms is responsible for the devastation we now face. And to the people that voted for them-Fuck you.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (70Vdl)

97 78 Did anyone think Sussman would be convicted? I am only surprised that this actually went to trial. But the fix was in long before the first testimony and evidence were presented. Hillary will skate unless an actual counterrevolution emerges and holds her and the rest of the Deep State accountable for their treason.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at May 31, 2022 06:40 PM (RIfux)

The trial judge allowed blatantly biased jurors. As ace points out, the defense that the totally corrupt FBI absolutely promoted the lie was a valid one, to be sure, but just seating those jurors tells everyone everything they need to know. State governors should refuse to allow prisoners indicted in the D.C. circuits to be extradited there, full stop, because they are not going to get a fair trial unless they are of the protected class.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (nMx88)

98 Geez this dump stinks. No seriously, passing by the municipal dump in Melissa,Texas where they built middle six digit $$$ homes across from it.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:36 PM

Five years ago those houses were going for $250,000, now they are approaching $700,000. Plus you get to smell the dump for the entire DFW metroplex home to 10,000,000 people. What a bargain.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (bVYXr)

99 Answer honestly: If Al-Qaeda ran a plane into the Pentagon today, would you give a damn about anyone outside of the passengers and crew?
Posted by: PacosMojo

Nope.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (R/uuE)

100
The FBI: America's Okhrana

Posted by: Roger De Bris at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (/U27+)

101 80

" fair election (giggle) "

egg - zackley !

everyone gonna s#i7 themself when 83 million elect a solid demonrat congress in november, amirite ?

*spits*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (P57A6)

102 Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (YsjiM)

103 Didn't one of the "jurors" speak out today and say something to the effect that they wondered why they bothered bring this to trial.. What's the big deal ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:45 PM (bs+z0)

104 Five years ago those houses were going for $250,000, now they are approaching $700,000. Plus you get to smell the dump for the entire DFW metroplex home to 10,000,000 people. What a bargain.
Posted by: Mister Scott

They shut the brand-new subdivision that was across the street.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:46 PM (R/uuE)

105 87 Huh. Paul Pelosi killed his brother in a car accident when he was 16 years old. Rolled a car.
Posted by: fd at May 31, 2022 06:43 PM (vrz2I)

Nancy's brother was part of a group that gang raped two little girls, 13 and 11.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 06:46 PM (5EaNh)

106 FIB=KGB
Support Liberty, Disband FIB

Posted by: Kevin and Mitch, Severe Conservatives who will win because the other guys are repulsive commies at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (Tc2CN)

107 Five years ago those houses were going for $250,000, now they are approaching $700,000. Plus you get to smell the dump for the entire DFW metroplex home to 10,000,000 people. What a bargain.
Posted by: Mister Scott

They shut the brand-new subdivision that was across the street.

They sold the brand-new subdivision across the street. Stupid Siri.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (R/uuE)

108 >>>102 Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster

right... can't remember what he said though

i know he said that drinking a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster was rather like being clubbed in the head with a brick of gold wrapped in a lemon zest.

but that's a different joke than the one sock_rat_eez told

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (AkbRF)

109 "Geez this dump stinks"

When those projects are proposed, they always promise "it won't smell." Once it's a fait accompli, there's no way to fix it. Hahaha suckers!

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (qpX6U)

110
I'm not going to get on JackStraw's case about this or anything else. He's good folks and, while I have no optimism, this hasn't played out yet.

Posted by: Roger De Bris at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (/U27+)

111 Only 5 1/2 shopping hours left to register for the NoVaMoMe! Register yo ass!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (0IeYL)

112 85 Hopefully Jackstraw will stick around this time. I mean that. No one is going to dunk on him.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (4+wAL)

Someone dunked on him this morning
Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:43 PM (bs+z

AOS as a whole. There of course will be a few exceptions but they will be shut down by JS defenders.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (4+wAL)

113 " Fuck you, war!:

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (bYsHU)

114
Off gay director sock

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2022 06:48 PM (/U27+)

115 >>>I'm not going to get on JackStraw's case about this or anything else.

i just want to stage an intervention about all the pot. his work here is slipping.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2022 06:48 PM (AkbRF)

116 Bet you are wondering why I was up against a Statute of Limitations in this case. Couldn't have had anything to do with the ... deliberate pace of my investigation.

And, how are you enjoying your Failure Theater?

Posted by: John Durham, Legal Genius at May 31, 2022 06:48 PM (Tc2CN)

117 Siri, do you have an issue with the word field shield FILLED Field.

Siri cannot do "filled".

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:49 PM (R/uuE)

118 Another day, another thumb in the eye of the American Ideal.

Posted by: The Biden Abomination That Causes Desolation at May 31, 2022 06:49 PM (jV+aN)

119 To Ace !

*tosses back a shot*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:49 PM (P57A6)

120 >>>AOS as a whole. There of course will be a few exceptions but they will be shut down by JS defenders.

what is a JS defender? Someone who doesn't think he should be cancelled for a wrong prognostication?

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2022 06:49 PM (AkbRF)

121 Whatever happened to "Deep State is in Deep Shit"?

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 31, 2022 06:50 PM (xPl2J)

122 Mission creep...

Led by @GabbyGiffords, we're on a mission to save lives from gun violence. Text COURAGE to 34131 to join the fight.
Giffords
@GiffordsCourage
Books belong in schools. Critical race theory belongs in schools. The word gay belongs in schools.

Guns do not.
3:10 PM · May 31, 2022

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at May 31, 2022 06:50 PM (MFZ8i)

123 The verdict wasn't stolen. It was "fortified."

Posted by: Zek at May 31, 2022 06:50 PM (OzNIz)

124 The Camera Eye

https://youtu.be/Nc1YPRbkWQA

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:50 PM (nByzo)

125 Weasel !!!!

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (70Vdl)

126 ed by @GabbyGiffords

What she really said was.. Gurgle, mumble waa...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (bs+z0)

127 Guhs ah bah.

Posted by: Gabby Giffords at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (yXa1C)

128 Elvis might be leaving the buildings.

The company that lords over the King’s image and likeness is cracking down on Las Vegas chapels that book Elvis-themed weddings and otherwise embrace his persona. Authentic Brands Group (ABG), which licenses Elvis Presley-related merchandise, has issued a cease-and-desist letter dated May 19 to several Las Vegas chapels.

Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (Ce5xK)

129 AOS as a whole. There of course will be a few exceptions but they will be shut down by JS defenders.

what is a JS defender? Someone who doesn't think he should be cancelled for a wrong prognostication?
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2022 06:49 PM (AkbRF)

Yes that's exactly what I mean.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (4+wAL)

130 worst thing i ever said to JS was "i hope you're right, ... "

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (P57A6)

131 If this is true, then Sussman was rightly acquitted.

Sussman did not lie to the FBI to help Hillary win the election; he colluded with the FBI to help Hillary win the election.

And this case is the FBI playing CYA claiming it was just an innocent dupe of Sussman.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (A9g2z)

132
125 Weasel !!!!
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (70Vdl)
-----
Howdy Ben Had!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (0IeYL)

133 And there it is.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (Mf7Vh)

134 Are there any good arguments that the Swamp won’t do to DeSantis exactly what they did to Trump?

Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (vwnAA)

135 110
I'm not going to get on JackStraw's case about this or anything else. He's good folks and, while I have no optimism, this hasn't played out yet.
Posted by: Roger De Bris at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (/U27+)

Jack can be overly optimistic but he's a solid, decent person and brings a lot of good insight to things and apparently really scours the source material. I learn a lot from him.

But the only thing playing out now is the end game kabuki, i.e., we tried, to be followed by I don't recall any corruption.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 31, 2022 06:52 PM (nMx88)

136 Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (vwnAA)

No

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:52 PM (bs+z0)

137 ed by @GabbyGiffords

What she really said was.. Gurgle, mumble waa...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (bs+z0)

Its this level of cruelty that pleases Victor Davis Hanson the most.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 06:52 PM (5EaNh)

138 AOS as a whole. There of course will be a few exceptions but they will be shut down by JS defenders.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter

Nope. Sorry. My goal posts haven't moved. I said no one was going to jail, and no one is going to jail. Clinesmith even got is law license back.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:52 PM (R/uuE)

139 Are there any good arguments that the Swamp won’t do to DeSantis exactly what they did to Trump?

==

yes

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2022 06:52 PM (V13WU)

140 Huh. Paul Pelosi killed his brother in a car accident when he was 16 years old. Rolled a car.
---------------------------
He had to. Biden's wife was running a red.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 31, 2022 06:53 PM (yikp0)

141 Is it now too late to convene a GJ against the FBI? Against Comey? I also seem to recall something about 4 applications for FISA warrants against Carter Page, well after everyone at FBI knew the Steele dossier was poo poo.
Has Durham's delay actually run out the clock?

Posted by: Zek at May 31, 2022 06:53 PM (OzNIz)

142 Posted by: Roger De Bris
This^^
JS is good people.
All he wanted to do is inform.

Posted by: Bosk at May 31, 2022 06:53 PM (x6uUk)

143 and i may be grateful for wwv, but ... time for a change

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw ! at May 31, 2022 06:53 PM (P57A6)

144 GabbyGiffords

What she really said was.. Gurgle, mumble waa...
Posted by: It's me donna

Proof you can shoot a democrat in the head with an A.R. 15, and it not be fatal.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:53 PM (R/uuE)

145 Liberty minded people will never persuade those people. Time to designate our territory, measure for drapes, and move in.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at May 31, 2022 06:53 PM (vNUAr)

146 134 Are there any good arguments that the Swamp won’t do to DeSantis exactly what they did to Trump?
Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 06:51 PM (vwnAA)

Zero. The only way DeSantis could survive would be if Mitch and ol' Kev had his back. 'Nuff said there. Trump was invaluable in that he proved once and for all the United States is through twitching.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 31, 2022 06:53 PM (nMx88)

147 The lady justice statue should be replaced with a skanky crack whore offering BJs for a fiver.

I vote no confidence in any department of the Divided States of America.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2022 06:54 PM (9qSw/)

148 So Gabby's a groomer? Good. I don't feel bad about wishing her the absolute worst!

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 31, 2022 06:54 PM (1Fv0G)

149 I'm not the least worried

I'll just vote harder

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 06:54 PM (us2H3)

150 Are there any good arguments that the Swamp won’t do to DeSantis exactly what they did to Trump?
Posted by: Squid

None. And since DeSantis does not have fuck you money, he will be beholden to who brought him to the dance.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:55 PM (R/uuE)

151 I'll just vote harder
Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 06:54 PM (us2H3)

Year after year and decade after decade, I vote... And I'm in CA.

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:55 PM (bs+z0)

152 I said no one was going to jail, and no one is going to jail. Clinesmith even got is law license back.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:52 PM (R/uuE)

"Nothing will happen," depends on what your definition of "nothing" is, as has been beat to death here. I think today qualifies as a resounding "nothing," which cannot be rehabilitated as some sort of information war victory.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 06:56 PM (nByzo)

153 Meanwhile, Pennsylvania still can't tell us who won an election two weeks ago.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 31, 2022 06:56 PM (xPl2J)

154 I am sure that JS is pleased that his opinion is so resonant, and carries so much weight that it is talked about for years!

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2022 06:56 PM (V13WU)

155 okay, one more Hamm's ...

"The Beer Refreshing !"

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw ! at May 31, 2022 06:56 PM (P57A6)

156 and years, and years, and years....

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2022 06:56 PM (V13WU)

157 DeSantis needs to stay in Florida and we need ten more of his caliber across red states.

Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 06:57 PM (vwnAA)

158 157 DeSantis needs to stay in Florida and we need ten more of his caliber across red states.
Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 06:57 PM (vwnAA)

I agree

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:57 PM (bs+z0)

159 AOS as a whole. There of course will be a few exceptions but they will be shut down by JS defenders.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter

Nope. Sorry. My goal posts haven't moved. I said no one was going to jail, and no one is going to jail. Clinesmith even got is law license back.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 06:52 PM (R/uuE)

My biggest problem is that Jack sells Hopium. It's addictive and does no good for anyone. Much like Q, thinking somehow someway the system is gonna work this time and justice will prevail has a cooling effect on the rage that should rightfully be building.

I was a little miffed with him the first time around. Maybe got some snark in. This time I understand what it is he's selling and just ain't gonna buy.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 31, 2022 06:57 PM (MFphb)

160 Hope springs eternal from idiots.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2022 06:57 PM (OaZlZ)

161 155 okay, one more Hamm's ...

"The Beer Refreshing !"
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw ! at May 31, 2022 06:56 PM (P57A6)

from the land of sky blue waters.

Posted by: Roy at May 31, 2022 06:57 PM (Ti+Tv)

162 17 Hillary is up in Chappaqua tonight getting loaded and laughing her ass off.
Posted by: Shooter MczGavin

That’s a lot of laughing

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 31, 2022 06:58 PM (ohEXX)

163 FNC Special Report Bret Baier in charge said nothing about the jury makeup.

Fuck FNC and BAIER can DIAF.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 31, 2022 06:58 PM (KiBMU)

164 Way to walk into the trap, Baker.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2022 06:58 PM (9Spbq)

165
There's only like a dozen people left on Earth who think that any of this is good, or at even reason for cautious optimism. They Want To Believe. Let them. It's their thing. Like Q, but with wingtips instead of Viking helmets.

Posted by: @TheRealWilliamHayes at May 31, 2022 06:58 PM (FIJ+3)

166 well, the tea laves say whoever is the GOP niminee , he will be the next President

but good luck filling a cabinet with the best people

the best conservative people are not gonna want to put their head in the DC noose

those DC juries can convict the not guilty as weel as letting the guilty go free

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 06:59 PM (us2H3)

167 >>> i know he said that drinking a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster was rather like being clubbed in the head with a brick of gold wrapped in a lemon zest.

but that's a different joke than the one sock_rat_eez told
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2022 06:47 PM (AkbRF)

"Best Drink in Existence." Its effects are similar to "having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick."

Beeblebrox advised that you should "never drink more than two Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters unless you are a thirty ton mega elephant with bronchial pneumonia."

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2022 06:59 PM (YsjiM)

168 Why is AoS wasting one second of time reporting on the farcical Durham "investigation?" It's a slow-walk whitewash. Durham will Take YEARS and YEARS to investigate itty bitty fish like Sussman for relatively minor crimes, fail disastrously, and finally throw up his hands and say, "Well, I tried," while he cashes those fat government paychecks for nothing.

Great work if you can get it.

Posted by: p-squared at May 31, 2022 06:59 PM (0CzL1)

169 Show trial. Absolutely, positively a show trial. So, Proles, what did it show us?

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:00 PM (Vr12I)

170 I hear commie Shanghai is finally unquarantined tomorrow after two months of "5 days to fratten the curve".

Posted by: Roy at May 31, 2022 07:00 PM (Ti+Tv)

171 For some, it seemed like not just friends but "friends with benefits."

Usually, "friends with benefits" are just fucking each other, not a third party like this case (the American people and Blind Justice Lady, specifically).

Posted by: Moron Philosopher at May 31, 2022 07:00 PM (NCgXW)

172 169 Show trial. Absolutely, positively a show trial. So, Proles, what did it show us?
Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:00 PM (Vr12I)

Don't ask

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 07:00 PM (bs+z0)

173 Show trial. Absolutely, positively a show trial. So, Proles, what did it show us?

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:00 PM (Vr12I)

Laws are for little people.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 07:01 PM (nByzo)

174 precisely correct, Roy !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw ! at May 31, 2022 07:01 PM (P57A6)

175 So...is this a part of the slow wheels of justice, but Durham is comming?

Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2022 07:01 PM (F9322)

176 175 So...is this a part of the slow wheels of justice, but Durham is comming?
Posted by: Bete at May 31, 2022 07:01 PM (F9322)

He's not even breathing hard

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 07:01 PM (bs+z0)

177 All Media trials are show trials, of course. Next up - Heard vs Depp. What will it show us? Believe all Women, or Disney Fame uber alles?

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:02 PM (Vr12I)

178
I hear commie Shanghai is finally unquarantined tomorrow after two months of "5 days to fratten the curve".
Posted by: Roy at May 31, 2022 07:00 PM (Ti+Tv)

__________

I hope they celebrate with a massive riot against the government.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2022 07:02 PM (/U27+)

179 They never should have held that trial in DC.

Posted by: vic at May 31, 2022 07:02 PM (mZwKe)

180 Move to red states in the next five years if you’re not yet here.

Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 07:02 PM (vwnAA)

181 This Sussman stuff happened, what, five years ago? Can we win by fighting yesterday's battles, instead of fighting the shitshow right in front of us here and now? Hillary is history, and probably Trump is too. Refocus.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 07:02 PM (qpX6U)

182 Those people smart enough to come to the NoVaMoMe get to meet bluebell!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2022 07:03 PM (0IeYL)

183 If Durham wraps up, then they'll be no reason the GOP house can't do an in depth investigation into this next year, without the bothersome "it's under investgation"DOJ excuse

nothing but the GOP itself

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:03 PM (us2H3)

184 I don't get it.

The 'dunkers' bash Jack Straw because he kept on top of the evidence and trial.

The evidence proved Sussman is guilty.
Durham prosecuted Sussman; but, doesn't completely control the jury or the foul judge. So Sussman is free as a bird just like OJ was after his trial.

The 'dunkers' just sounded butt hurt about all of it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 31, 2022 07:03 PM (JzBU4)

185
The wheels of justice grind slow, but exceedingly like a corrupt gorilla high on bath salts and ready to rape everything in sight.

Posted by: @TheRealWilliamHayes at May 31, 2022 07:03 PM (FIJ+3)

186 https://tinyurl.com/3sxafks3
20 Tweets from Bad Blue

Much about Sussman

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2022 07:04 PM (2JoB8)

187 kraken , it shows that buy more food and ammo is sound advice.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 07:04 PM (70Vdl)

188 Ace: "At some point, the system becomes so corrupt it becomes incapable of producing outcomes that are anything other than corruption. That's where we are now."

Yup. 'Nuff said.

There is no reform in DC. It simply will not happen.

Now what?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 31, 2022 07:04 PM (aXxgO)

189 157 DeSantis needs to stay in Florida and we need ten more of his caliber across red states.
Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 06:57 PM (vwnAA)

I know this has been posted before, but DeSantis is term limited. His second term will end in 2026.

Posted by: Tofer732 at May 31, 2022 07:04 PM (GcxM3)

190 They never should have held that trial in DC.
Posted by: vic at May 31, 2022 07:02 PM (mZwKe)
---
In the last Jan6 trial, the judge about admitted that DC should NOT be the venue.

But the Swamp sucks.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2022 07:05 PM (OaZlZ)

191 As long as Durham and a bunch of Democrat lawyers are getting paid, we really can't ask for much more than some facts we all knew five years ago being alleged by the prosecution and half-admitted to by the defenses of low level unknown underlings on their way to lightning acquittals and book deaks that the media gets to brag about and the Left gets to rub in our faces until the next atrocity they perpetuate and get away with scot free. Can we?

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 07:05 PM (dscaa)

192 like a corrupt gorilla high on bath salts and ready to rape everything in sight.

Oddly accurate and descriptive.

Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 07:05 PM (vwnAA)

193 Andrew Gillum - tanned, rested and Ready!!!

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:06 PM (Vr12I)

194 Can we?

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 07:05 PM (dscaa)

You. Sound. Butthurt.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 07:06 PM (nByzo)

195 His second term will end in 2026.

Didn’t know that. Thank you

Posted by: Squid at May 31, 2022 07:06 PM (vwnAA)

196 well, if nothing else

we get to see how it felt to black people in the mid 20th century
when the southern KKK dims were finding murders not guilty

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:07 PM (us2H3)

197 The 'dunkers' bash Jack Straw because he kept on top of the evidence and trial.

The evidence proved Sussman is guilty.
Durham prosecuted Sussman; but, doesn't completely control the jury or the foul judge. So Sussman is free as a bird just like OJ was after his trial.

The 'dunkers' just sounded butt hurt about all of it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 31, 2022 07:03 PM (JzBU4)

I usually dig your posts but there's a LOT of misrepresentation here.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 07:07 PM (dscaa)

198 AZ deplorable, I knew I loved you.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 07:07 PM (70Vdl)

199 193 Andrew Gillum - tanned, rested and Ready!!!
Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:06 PM (Vr12I)

tan, arrested and ready to go steady

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:08 PM (us2H3)

200 If there's any hope of dissolving this shitshow of a fake-ass fucked up country, someone like DeSantis will have to lead the effort.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 31, 2022 07:08 PM (sWM8x)

201
You. Sound. Butthurt.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 07:06 PM (nByzo)

I was wondering what that was.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 07:08 PM (dscaa)

202 Clinesmith must feel kinda dumb for pleading out

in any other jurisdiction, Sussman woulda pled out

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:09 PM (us2H3)

203 Tofer732: "I know this has been posted before, but DeSantis is term limited. His second term will end in 2026."

Yeah, it's, um, Law that determines this? Does everyone not yet see what time it is?

Kinda like to see him say, "Term limits, Shmerm limits. I'm stayin'." The States are simply not United and cannot continue like they are.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 31, 2022 07:10 PM (aXxgO)

204

The entire moronic dumb govt was allied against Trump, and Repubs as usual bent over and got rammed, either by stupidity or on purpose, cuz they like the way it feels.

All so that drooling fuckhead could get in office and tank the entire country and turn all the kids gay and whatever else the commies want to run.

Amazing.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at May 31, 2022 07:10 PM (XnbJC)

205 141 Is it now too late to convene a GJ against the FBI? Against Comey? I also seem to recall something about 4 applications for FISA warrants against Carter Page, well after everyone at FBI knew the Steele dossier was poo poo.
Has Durham's delay actually run out the clock?
----
Lampposts don't care about clocks.

Posted by: Ciampino at May 31, 2022 07:11 PM (qfLjt)

206 The 'dunkers' just sounded butt hurt about all of it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

How is calling it, and being proven correct, but hurt? Again, no one is going to jail.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 07:11 PM (R/uuE)

207
and i may be grateful for wwv, but ... time for a change
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw !

Take Off to the Great White North!

Posted by: CHU at May 31, 2022 07:11 PM (63Dwl)

208 ...- JackStraw was as skeptical of the outcome as anyone. If anyone has not read the trial transcripts , you are pissing in the wind.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 07:11 PM (70Vdl)

209 Sobering to think that Gillum was so close to being Governor. It is important to vote, speaking generally, but focusing specifically.

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:12 PM (Vr12I)

210 Spanaway, WA man kills a plumber because the plumber hit the man's fence.

https://youtu.be/1C1l1BHxRhk

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2022 07:12 PM (kDGvA)

211 DeSantis needs to stay in Florida and we need ten more of his caliber across red states.
Posted by: Squid

ever so ^^^^THIS^^^^

i did my part and tried to get Tim James over the primary line in 'bama for governor. kay ivey won more than 50% so no run off. she ain't desant8s, but she sure as shit ain't the pos in michigan, pa, or ca.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 31, 2022 07:13 PM (UgAdJ)

212 Anyone who thinks the so-called "cynics" would rather see some dumb low level unknown paid off complicit scumbag idiot like Sussman get off so they can tell *JackStraw* an "I told you so" needs to sincerely reassess their worldview.

Sometimes the Left gets cause and effect wrong too.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 07:13 PM (dscaa)

213 US Government: Lying liars who lie, even when the truth would serve them better.

Scooter Libby and Martha Stewart were unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Zombie Ronald Reagan, please save us! at May 31, 2022 07:13 PM (lwk4u)

214 Sigh

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 07:13 PM (Mf7Vh)

215 209 Sobering to think that Gillum was so close to being Governor. It is important to vote, speaking generally, but focusing specifically.
Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:12 PM (Vr12I

You can thank Palm Beach and Broward counties for that election being so close. And the heads of elections there were removed afterward.

Posted by: Tofer732 at May 31, 2022 07:13 PM (GcxM3)

216 90 85 Hopefully Jackstraw will stick around this time. I mean that. No one is going to dunk on him.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 06:24 PM (4+wAL)

Someone dunked on him this morning
Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2022 06:43 PM (bs+z0)

That's in poor taste. I was thinking, even before reading the comments here, that I'd say Jack, please don't drop out for a year again. Just take the L and move on, it happens to all of us at various times. Besides, you were the only person here who *didn't* expect this to happen; the rest of us gave up on anything useful coming out of Durham 2 years ago. (oh I know, he "proved" what everyone here already knew, but so what? )

one last thought - I'm not saying Hilary is gonna be the Dem nominee in 2024 - but it's gonna be Hillary.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2022 07:14 PM (trdmm)

217 DC had been bleeding people for 40 years and then all of the sudden in 2000, a huge amount of people starting to move into DC

and the national debt grew by 600%

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:14 PM (us2H3)

218 https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/05/31/the-sussman-jury/

Hat tip to Ace's thread on it

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2022 07:15 PM (2JoB8)

219 I'm a couple of beers into the evening, so bare with me...

Somehow this afternoon, I went down a musical rabbit hole, and ended up on The Olympic Fanfare by John Williams (along with Summon the Heroes, and the Olympic Spirit).

And being a couple of beers into the evening, and a bit wistful. I find myself remembering back to the 1984 Summer Olympics. Early in the years of my marriage, and building my career, riding the wave of resurgence in the USA courtesy of Ron and a belief in ourselves.

How in the world did we go from such a golden time to this...

There's no John Williams score for this shit show. There's no ebullience, no golden times.

I suppose the soundtrack would be "The World Turned Upside Down".

My mugs empty...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 31, 2022 07:15 PM (BgMrQ)

220 Dr. Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller: "The entire moronic dumb govt was allied against Trump..."

Not dumb. Conniving.

Trump/MAGA is the very thing that Power fears most, that the Little People might have some say and control over their lives and labor.

No, this all is not at all dumb. It is, however, damnably foolish, but not everyone will grasp that until they realize they, too, were Useful Idiots.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 31, 2022 07:15 PM (aXxgO)

221 You know, the last dying ember of my idealism is hoping that when the Clintons finally die off, some of this DC corruption dies with them.

And then I can ride my fucking gold plated Harley Davidson Fat Boy past the gingerbread houses of the new Washington.

Posted by: UGAdawg at May 31, 2022 07:15 PM (tRd71)

222 I see in Ukraine they fired their "Ombudsman for Human Rights" because she kept lying.

Who knew Ukraine was LESS corrupt then DC?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2022 07:16 PM (ESjRY)

223 Jack Straw is a Great American.

There. I said it.

Anywho...

So Glenn Beck did an interview with Bill Barr over the weekend. It's worth listening to. Here's the YouBoob version, but you can hear it on Beck's podcast at Apple Podcasts, too.
https://youtu.be/1CeIYc4RWGc

I'm listening to this and something hit me. If Barr ever puts public life completely behind him he would do really well making ASMR videos. Does anyone else think so? He's really soft spoken. I can imagine if now. "William Barr Gives You A Shave And A Haircut Binaural Audio With Gentle Whispering And Snipping Sounds." I predict a million views in the first week.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 07:16 PM (0MKsl)

224 people like Jack Straw have been fighting for this country since the beginning

not because they would win but because they were right

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:16 PM (us2H3)

225 JackStraw was as skeptical of the outcome as anyone. If anyone has not read the trial transcripts , you are pissing in the wind.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 07:11 PM (70Vdl)

So I have not made any accusations toward Jack about what he thought about anything and certainly haven't said anything about what he expected the outcome of this trial to be.

*I've* said this trial and anything else coming out of Durham (and before him Barr) is useless and misguided at absolute best and will therefore only end in tears and/or ridiculous fall guys instead of punishment for the conspiracy that has been locked and loaded against us. Jack disagrees. That's fine. I don't mind disagreeing with people. Usually I find it relatively fun. But I won't stay quiet.

And I still love you BH.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 07:17 PM (dscaa)

226 203 Tofer732: "I know this has been posted before, but DeSantis is term limited. His second term will end in 2026."

Yeah, it's, um, Law that determines this? Does everyone not yet see what time it is?

I didn't know Florida had state term limits. In Texas, Abbott can stay Governor for the next 20 years if he wants to. And he might.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2022 07:17 PM (trdmm)

227 I tire of the Demoncrat high jinks. It will be nice when Nancy, Chuck, and Joe shuffle off their mortal coils and go to that grand orgy, upside down in a lake of fire.

Posted by: Marooned at May 31, 2022 07:17 PM (w6hJ9)

228 73
Sussman is a member of that big club and you ain’t in it.
Posted by: YIKES! at May 31, 2022 06:39 PM (t6XCL)

Royalties can be paid to the GC trust fund c/o Thanks for the memories

Posted by: George Carlin at Carnegie Hall at May 31, 2022 07:18 PM (FsBPj)

229 I don't really care if Hillary is laughing her butt off in Chappaqua or not. She-unlike everyone here-is loathed by a sizable percent of the population. She left people to die at an American embassy, she spent years with a husband who was a serial cheater and she is a failed Presidential candidate who is not at all well and can probably name on one hand or less people who actually like or love her and are not simply using her. She is a malignant narcissist and despite her cackling it's God who will have the last laugh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2022 07:19 PM (pOu9t)

230 I find Jack to write thoughtful reasoned comments. Worth reading, even though I might not always agree with him.

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:19 PM (Vr12I)

231 Tom Servo, JackStraw expected this to happen. Sometimes people don't read all the comments, strange as that may be.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 07:20 PM (70Vdl)

232 Well, I hope JS comes back.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 07:21 PM (Mf7Vh)

233 Sometimes people don't read all the comments, strange as that may be.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 07:20 PM (70Vdl)

I believe skimming is a time honored tradition of the Horde.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 07:21 PM (0MKsl)

234 when decent people start doing the things they know are not right

that is the beginning of the end

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:22 PM (us2H3)

235 I find Jack to write thoughtful reasoned comments. Worth reading, even though I might not always agree with him.
Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 07:19 PM (Vr12I)

Concur.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2022 07:22 PM (R/m4+)

236 The left, as personified in the ugliness of Jonathan Chait, is already claiming that the acquittal proves that the Alfa Bank Hoax was really all just a right-wing conspiracy theory, and it's still a very real, very plausible theory to claim that Trump had a secret computer talking with a Russian bank.

They would have done that no matter what. Well, he was only guilty of who he was representing, but the allegation is still serious!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2022 07:22 PM (W3LD/)

237 Jack's posts rest on the presumption that he is right and the "nothing is happening/will happen" people being dead wrong despite every day for the 1500th in a row proving the contrary.

It's like arguing with someone who tells you that another 9/11 is going to happen (an argument I had with my brother 20 years ago). He still insists he is right. And I can't possibly prove him wrong.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 07:23 PM (dscaa)

238 To anyone who STILL does not (refuses to?) see:
we completely boned folks.

Posted by: DaisyB at May 31, 2022 07:23 PM (Hswbs)

239 If they indict Hunter for something, where will he be tried ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:23 PM (us2H3)

240 232 Well, I hope JS comes back.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 07:21 PM (Mf7Vh)

Jack will be back, if only to rub his lucky rabbits foot that is the HQ, while the Rangers are still alive in the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

#dontchangeyourluckysocks

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 31, 2022 07:23 PM (BgMrQ)

241 Sometimes people don't read all the comments, strange as that may be.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 07:20 PM (70Vdl)

I believe skimming is a time honored tradition of the Horde.
Posted by: Robert

what is this content of which you speak?

for the record, i wanted JS to be right. i admire his insight and ability to spell it out in terms even my dumb self can grok.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 31, 2022 07:24 PM (UgAdJ)

242 I always appreciated Jack Straw's analysis.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2022 07:24 PM (pOu9t)

243 In a just world Sussman and everyone from Hildabeast down should been on trial for 4 years of total fabrication of the things they put on DJT.
It's not a just world, this country tried but it's sinking fast.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2022 07:24 PM (2JoB8)

244
Sometimes people don't read all the comments, strange as that may be.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 07:20 PM (70Vdl)

__________

Read??

(as dictated to my buxom, callipygic executive secretary)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2022 07:25 PM (/U27+)

245 ..., love ya right back. This is rational discussion with rational people.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2022 07:25 PM (70Vdl)

246 I believe skimming is a time honored tradition of the Horde.
Posted by: Robert

First!
or
Sponge!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 31, 2022 07:25 PM (JzBU4)

247 I like Jacks comments and thoughts a lot. I believe the fundamental issue is that in a country as politically divided as this one is, the idea of having Jury trials for any politically sensitive case is ridiculous. We may be approaching the point where we have to do away with jury trials altogether and move to a tribunal type system to determine guilt and innocence, such as found in the UCMJ.

It's sad to admit, but we appear to have become too corrupt as a people to rely on jury systems anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2022 07:25 PM (trdmm)

248 Tom Servo: "I didn't know Florida had state term limits. In Texas, Abbott can stay Governor for the next 20 years if he wants to. And he might."

I'm not knocking anything you said, just mentioning that too many do not see history unfolding right before their very eyes. We plod along like our forefather's Heritage is going to save us and that the paradigm that we've grown up with will persevere. It's not. The country is being broken more every day and it will not reassemble. It's tragic watching it crumble. And, for the most part, it's by design because we cannot keep the republic.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 31, 2022 07:25 PM (aXxgO)

249 "arguing with someone who tells you that another 9/11 is going to happen"

Who doubts it? We'll get hit again, harder. Sure, who knows when? But inevitable.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 07:25 PM (qpX6U)

250 that Bishop guy kinda predicted this in the "Big Sort"

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:26 PM (us2H3)

251 234 when decent people start doing the things they know are not right

that is the beginning of the end
Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:22 PM (us2H3)

It has reached the point where everyone is either totally dispirited or a spark begins a conflagration that cannot be contained. Neither is a good place to be and either is possible, but the latter is preferable and represents good people doing the right thing. It is just stunning for anyone who lived in the nation when it was a wonderful place to see it plumb these depths.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 31, 2022 07:26 PM (nMx88)

252 226 203 Tofer732: "I know this has been posted before, but DeSantis is term limited. His second term will end in 2026."

Yeah, it's, um, Law that determines this? Does everyone not yet see what time it is?

I didn't know Florida had state term limits. In Texas, Abbott can stay Governor for the next 20 years if he wants to. And he might.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2022 07:17 PM (trdmm)

On election eve 2020 FL was all in for HC until evening results came in and the 'panhandle' count which is an hour behind blew past the hildebeast with ease.

Fast forward spring break 2022 Panama City Beach FL. The town was taken over literally by "folks" from Alabama... The Dems are thinking and acting big (nationally) AND getting it done on the largest scale ever... Obama/Holder and the rest of likely Obama administration members are still running the show.. Their "ACORN" has grown into a mighty oak. IMHO

Posted by: Old Timey commentor on parole at May 31, 2022 07:26 PM (FsBPj)

253 Jack will be back, if only to rub his lucky rabbits foot that is the HQ, while the Rangers are still alive in the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

#dontchangeyourluckysocks
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 31, 2022 07:23 PM (BgMrQ)

Can’t stand the Rangers, but they played lights out last night.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 07:27 PM (Mf7Vh)

254 When the transcripts showed that Flynn's most common statement to Kislyev was "We can talk about this is January", and never even tried to conduct diplomacy, and definitely nothing in conflict with the administration" people were accusing him of "treason" because of Sullivan's menstrual hysterics.

His defence could have easily been that since the FIB had his transcript in front of them no "lie" could have possibly been material. But Steadman's firm had him pleading guilty before those facts could come out about how much the FIB knew at the time.

But now we see that this defense can be conducted with: "C'mon! Who didn't know that Sussman was a liar??"

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2022 07:27 PM (OaZlZ)

255 >>> Spanaway, WA man kills a plumber because the plumber hit the man's fence.

https://youtu.be/1C1l1BHxRhk
Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2022 07:12 PM (kDGvA)

He called the plumber then came out and shot him multiple times because he hit his gate. He then put all his weapons in a bag and tried to hide them at a neighbors house. When the police arrived the guy was rifling though the shot guy's truck. Much of this is caught on surveillance video. He's pleading not guilty. Also the guy may have still been alive when the shooter was going through his truck.

Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 31, 2022 07:28 PM (0fVbu)

256 I kinda think DC relishes having these trials

shows everyone who IS the boss

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:29 PM (us2H3)

257 Can’t stand the Rangers, but they played lights out last night.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 07:27 PM (Mf7Vh

That, and untimely injuries to the 'Canes.

But mostly great play by the Rags...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 31, 2022 07:29 PM (BgMrQ)

258 "It has reached the point where everyone is either totally dispirited or a spark begins a conflagration that cannot be contained"

Corrupt institutions. Corrupt electorate. Almost nobody cares about doing something wrong anymore, as long as they don't get caught.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 07:29 PM (qpX6U)

259
It's sad to admit, but we appear to have become too corrupt as a people to rely on jury systems anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2022 07:25 PM (trdmm)

Maybe. Or maybe too exasperated with the corruption.

It doesn't matter to me who's on trial. I vote for acquittal, and won't budge for any reason. I don't know the defendant from Adam. But I do know his accuser, and that guy is one lyin'-ass motherfucker.

Posted by: @TheRealWilliamHayes at May 31, 2022 07:30 PM (FIJ+3)

260 We may be approaching the point where we have to do away with jury trials altogether and move to a tribunal type system to determine guilt and innocence, such as found in the UCMJ.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Too late Tom, the judiciary has already been corrupted (See searching for the HI judge to put a halt to anything sane).

Can't even imagine getting in front of a military tribunal as the sane officers have already been purged.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 31, 2022 07:30 PM (JzBU4)

261 "we appear to have become too corrupt as a people"

Bingo.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 07:30 PM (qpX6U)

262 Baker, Sussman, the Judge, etal are probably having a drink together atm

clinkers

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:30 PM (us2H3)

263 Who doubts it? We'll get hit again, harder. Sure, who knows when? But inevitable.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at May 31, 2022 07:25 PM (qpX6U)

Well of course he meant "soon". Like we need to wake up in fear expecting it. I said they had a major confluence of events for "that" to happen and that the probability of another successful thing like that was actually reasonably low. I'm not saying we don't need to worry about Muslim terror. That wasn't the argument. And the argument was 20 years ago. He was wrong.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 07:31 PM (dscaa)

264 But now we see that this defense can be conducted with: "C'mon! Who didn't know that Sussman was a liar??"
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2022 07:27 PM (OaZlZ)

OR " You fucked up! You trusted us"!

Posted by: Otters other brother at May 31, 2022 07:31 PM (FsBPj)

265 Speaking of people bleeding out...

Victim of Uvalde Shitbag was shot in kidney, bled out while waiting for police.

https://tinyurl.com/bdhex9zr

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 07:31 PM (0MKsl)

266 The Cafe is open.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2022 07:32 PM (a3Q+t)

267 The Cafe is open.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2022 07:32 PM (a3Q+t)

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 07:32 PM (nByzo)

268 on a different topic - just saw that the Uvalde PD has now lawyered up and is refusing to cooperate with the Texas DPS investigation into the shooting.

Okay this is gonna be lit. It might have happened anyways, but by doing this they just put a big "Kick Me!" sign on their asses, and everyone in Texas State Government is gonna take a shot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2022 07:32 PM (trdmm)

269 Could use some furry friends videos

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2022 07:33 PM (2JoB8)

270 All of our problems stem from washington dc and the swine who inhabit, work or prostitute themselves there.

Abolishing the place and the federales is the only answer.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2022 07:34 PM (R/m4+)

271 for certain values of "tried" ... ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw ! at May 31, 2022 07:38 PM (P57A6)

272 "The agents wanted the name because sometimes that information is useful to evaluating the tip. It would have been highly useful in evaluating this tip -- they would immediately have said, "Hillary Clinton's lawyer? Trash" and began wrapping up the investigation into the already-preposterous-seeming tip."

Really? It seems more likely they would've said "This is for Hillary? How do we help?"

Posted by: EnsuingDebacle at May 31, 2022 08:08 PM (6qtPL)

273 Bananas, republic. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Halfhand at May 31, 2022 08:20 PM (uHB5x)

274 196 well, if nothing else

we get to see how it felt to black people in the mid 20th century
when the southern KKK dims were finding murders not guilty
Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 07:07 PM (us2H3)

Speaking of murder, Seth Rich's murder will never be solved...because we have the top men at the FBI looking into it. You see, it was a botched robbery in which nothing was taken from the victim except his life...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2022 08:27 PM (ynpvh)

275 Margot Cleveland has ingested some strong, likely illegal, Kool-Aid to claim something “good” came out of the Sussmann prosecution.

Only thing that came out of it is the confirmation the USA is at least as politically corrupt at the highest levels as any other nominally democratic country.

Posted by: Just a dummy at May 31, 2022 08:39 PM (U2W4Y)

276 I don't care if Hillary's gofers are acquitted as long as they provide incontrovertable evidence of her position at the center of Crossfire Hurricane, and Sussman's trial provided that evidence. Durham's going slowly and there's still a long way to go. No one's going to hang. But in the end Trump will be vindicated and the liars and cheaters will be tossed in the garbage bin of history.

Posted by: Mary Wilbur at May 31, 2022 09:35 PM (artIV)

277 Take names, when the power shifts, tie them up in lengthy investigations (good place for the new guys to get some experience), and, after 2024, shove them out the door.

Posted by: Linda Fox at May 31, 2022 09:37 PM (G6b2l)

278 The only thing between us and the bureacrats is the cops/military. Think about that.

When #conservatives say "better training for cops" they are talking about cops as a nationalized force, not independent, locally controlled agencies. Some tool just suggested making veterans into school guards. Great, further incentivize men to be loyal to the State while putting our children im the hands of jack-boots.

#conservatives want just enough socialism.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at June 01, 2022 02:10 AM (AZlbU)

279 At least once we purge Congress, we can impeach that crooked judge. But there's no reversing the jury's verdict.

Posted by: jdgalt1 at June 01, 2022 11:57 AM (3SFo/)

280 That was weird.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 01, 2022 12:33 PM (aaGzp)

281 Revenge is the only recourse now.

Whenever DC starts whining about statehood, smash them flat. Never. No. Absolutely not.

The ONLY way is if they agree to be folded into Maryland. They can become part of Montgomery County. That is already occupied territory.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at June 01, 2022 12:38 PM (96wFa)

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Sussman Was Acquitted Because of a Partisan DC Jury.And Because the FBI Colluded With Sussman From the Beginning.

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Sussman Was Acquitted Because of a Partisan DC Jury.
And Because the FBI Colluded With Sussman From the Beginning.