The Morning Rant: The US Forest Service Started the New Mexico Fires Which Were Blamed on Climate Change

You’ve probably heard about the recent forest fires in the western US, blamed - of course – on climate change. (By which the climatistas mean that the wildfires were caused by all you selfish SUV drivers, McMansion owners, and other enemies of Gaia.)

Climate change is why New Mexico's wildfire season started early this year [Yahoo News – 5/04/2022]

‘Like an inferno:’ US West burning at furious pace so far [Associated Press – 5/12/2022]

Wind-driven flames have torn through vegetation that is extraordinarily dry from years-long drought exacerbated by climate change.

It’s not climate change. These are man-made fires and the US Forest Service is largely responsible. This isn’t even a case of one uncontrolled fire set by the USFS…it’s multiple uncontrolled fires!

Forest Service says it started all of New Mexico's largest wildfires [Reuters – 5/27/2022]

Two blazes that grew into New Mexico's largest ever wildfire were both started by the U.S. Forest Service the agency said on Friday, prompting the state's governor to demand the federal government take full responsibility for the disaster.

Forest Service investigators determined the Calf Canyon Fire was caused by a "burn pile" of branches that the agency thought was out but reignited on April 19, the Santa Fe National Forest said in a statement.

The Calf Canyon fire wasn’t even a controlled burn that got out of control, it was simply a burn pile.

On the other hand, the Hermit’s Peak Fire was a “controlled” burn, except that the Forest Service lost control of it. Both of the wildfires started by the USFS then merged into one hellfire.

That blaze [Calf Canyon] on April 22 merged with the Hermits Peak Fire, which the USFS started with a controlled burn that went out of control on April 6, the agency previously reported.

Blazing a more than 40-mile-long (64-km-long) path up the Sangre de Cristo mountains, the fire has destroyed watersheds and forests used for centuries by Indo-Hispano farming villages and Native American communities.

Burning down centuries-old villages of Indo-Hispanos sounds kind of racist to me. Was diversity training not provided to the Forest Service?

By the way, the US Forest Service isn’t the only “good guy” going into the woods and starting deadly wildfires.

Do you remember the awful Dixie Wildfire in California in 2021? It burned almost a million acres, incinerated over 700 homes, and destroyed the town of Greenville.

A college professor who had taught at Santa Clara University and Sonoma State University set at least four fires that were part of the greater overall conflagration.

College Professor Gary Stephen Maynard Charged With Intentionally Starting California Wildfires [CBS Sacramento – 11/18/2021]

The fires happened in the area of the Dixie Fire in Shasta Trinity National Forest and Lassen National Forest while the Dixie Fire was burning. Some of the fires were behind firefighters battling the Dixie Fire, the indictment alleges.

According to this NPR story, Professor Maynard’s teaching and research includes ”environmental sociology,” whatever that is. Perhaps starting wildfires as a way of bringing attention to “climate change” is a form of environmental sociology. Outside of faculty lounges, however, murder via arson is not generally embraced as an acceptable form of sociology.

I am starting to suspect that wildfires out west are like vandalism “hate crimes” on campus, and that until proven otherwise, I should assume any such occurrence is a false-flag event ignited by left-wing activists. Or by incompetent government agencies.

(buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com)

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Yeah Buddy

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:00 AM (R5lpX)

2 Climate change can do anything, like set federal forestry policy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

3 i called the corgies

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 31, 2022 11:02 AM (UgAdJ)

4 Forest service has Chinese spies running their operations.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 31, 2022 11:03 AM (CbL5q)

5 We do controlled burns and don't let them get out of hand here in the South. Wonder what we do that they don't.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:03 AM (R5lpX)

6 Well, it is climate change.

Political climate change.

We now have firemen ala Farhenheit 451.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 31, 2022 11:03 AM (lTGtQ)

7 How will the Biden junta, the entire democrat party, and the inept federal government blame this on Trump and the republicans? Because you know they will.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:03 AM (WKPeU)

8 They want you dead.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 11:03 AM (Mf7Vh)

9 When you start a "controlled" burn in 40+ mph winds, you're not gonna get a controlled burn.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:04 AM (bvH+0)

10 Morning.

Whenever I fart loudly I'm just going to blame it on climate change.

Pardon my extreme climate events.

*Fans the air*

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:04 AM (dHPaC)

11 Remember that one commercial where Smokey the Bear was an arsonist?

Yeah, me neither.

"Remember kids, Only We Can Start a Forest Fire."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:04 AM (/EuRN)

12 Crichton called all of this in one of his novels where the climate change lobby essentially engineered a bunch of "natural disasters" in order to "prove their point" and raise money for the cause.

Posted by: faldy at May 31, 2022 11:05 AM (ZC5QW)

13 Can we all agree that anyhing " government" is composed of a rabble of hapless screwups?

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 11:05 AM (Vr12I)

14 Oxymoron coming in ---> "controlled burn"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2022 11:05 AM (BFigT)

15 So like in Farenheit 451, the Forest Service is now tasked with burning down all the forests?

Sure, why not.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 31, 2022 11:05 AM (906pl)

16 Forest Service investigators determined the Calf Canyon Fire was caused by a "burn pile" of branches that the agency thought was out but reignited on April 19, the Santa Fe National Forest said in a statement.

somebody needs more training

Posted by: smokey at May 31, 2022 11:05 AM (sGtp+)

17 The left loves them some politically motivated arson. Let's see...food processing plants, forests, cities...

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (Xrfse)

18 Lol.

Imagine taking your medical advice from the government.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (ELbmp)

19 If Bobby Unser were still alive, we could get his take on the "Forest Service".

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (AwYPR)

20 Actually Buck I believe that historic period data show *decline* in wildfires in the west, and pre-historic (geological) data confirm this. So you're exactly correct with the analogy. Non-existent "problem" unrelated to anything humans do/don't do.

It's a society of medieval ignorance and superstition and fear with digital technology, spaceflight, and genetic engineering. Quite the combo.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (OTzUX)

21 Hermit's Peak is featured in Red Dawn ('84). Coincidence?

Posted by: Donkey Joto at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (t4foN)

22 They want you dead.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Yes.
They do.

Between this, the new and improved meat regs, the destruction of our foodstuff, the proud boasting of higher gas prices and the plandemic, it's kinda obvious.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (bvH+0)

23 Didn't the EPA undr preezy Shit Midas ruin a river for decades with their scew up? A totally unnecessary screw up because the present containment was doing its job and would continue to do so for a long time.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (WKPeU)

24 How can this be? Govt is staffed with nothing but experts and shit.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (3vQN0)

25 Left-wing activists = incompetent government agencies, leastwise more often not.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (ojAeJ)

26 Just a few bad apples. Most of the US Forest Service employees are real ham and eggers.

Posted by: 496 at May 31, 2022 11:07 AM (VJsqe)

27 "Indo-Hispano" sounds incredibly cringey and weird to me for some reason....

Like referring to somebody as a Turanian or an Octoroon or something....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:07 AM (/EuRN)

28 15 Oxymoron coming in ---> "controlled burn"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2022 11:05 AM (BFigT)

>good government

Posted by: 7man at May 31, 2022 11:07 AM (qwO6y)

29 Can we all agree that anyhing " government" is composed of a rabble of ~~hapless~~ phucking government employee screwups?
Posted by: kraken

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 31, 2022 11:07 AM (UgAdJ)

30 Smokey the Bear says
Only you can put out forest fires;
The government's job is to start them.

Posted by: Skip's phone at May 31, 2022 11:07 AM (z5JGB)

31 Controlled burns are usually better than the alternative, which is significant build-up of both slash and tree density, which makes the fire much worse and much hotter when it inevitably comes. This is what happened in the Buffalo Creek fire in Colorado, which got hot enough to sterilize. It was a decade or so before so much as some ground cover regrew in the burn zone.

But a controlled burn in high wind is begging for a loss of control to occur. I don't know if the wind was high at the start of the burn or not, but windy conditions should cancel a controlled burn. Yes, this is expensive - but it is also necessary.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2022 11:07 AM (5zVb8)

32 The real "controlled burn" of infamy in NM was back in the 90s, when the Forest Service burned down the town of Los Alamos - the lab nearby was untouched. That was a doozy.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2022 11:07 AM (OTzUX)

33 forgot to add the obligatory fixt for accuracy comment.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 31, 2022 11:07 AM (UgAdJ)

34 Posted by: MONSTER UNIVERSE MITT ROMNEY

You dick!

Posted by: Toby Keith, stepping on Spicoli's toes at May 31, 2022 11:07 AM (UnQlg)

35 Can we all agree that anyhing " government" is composed of a rabble of hapless phucking government employee screwups?
Posted by: kraken
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With what they're planning, they're not screwing up at all.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:08 AM (bvH+0)

36 Government - on the one hand, you have malevolence - on the other hand, incompetence. Winning!!!!

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 11:08 AM (Vr12I)

37 It was probably just a DOE funded experiment on external combustion engines.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:08 AM (/EuRN)

38 The perfect campaign issue for Dem governor Lujan-Grisham to draw all attention away from her horrid governance. She'll try to stretch this out for months.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 31, 2022 11:08 AM (TNyrE)

39 Arctic sea ice is at 30 year high. See... as the earth warms, the arctic will get warmer and cause more melting sea ice, which will cause more precipitation, and in turn cause more sea ice. The accumulation of more sea ice will cause sea levels to rise more than expected as the sea ice melts.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2022 11:08 AM (f8jdA)

40 First qualification of running a federal department is to have no qualifications to run that federal department.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:09 AM (WKPeU)

41 Buck, great rant.

by the way, CA, a few years ago, had several fires set by an illegal.

But, shush! Let's not mention that minor detail.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 31, 2022 11:09 AM (5pTK/)

42 So like in Farenheit 451, the Forest Service is now tasked with burning down all the forests?

Sure, why not.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 31, 2022 11:05 AM (906pl)

Just like the CDC is now tasked with culling people.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 11:09 AM (Mf7Vh)

43 If you don't believe in climate change, I'll nuke you.

Oh oh. Will the fib check me for nukes now since anybody can get one.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 31, 2022 11:09 AM (CbL5q)

44 Fire is good!

Posted by: Dr. Zog at May 31, 2022 11:10 AM (BP3/z)

45
TBH, the burned areas will bounce back better than before. Well, except for any structures and/or fences that were burned (posts burn and wire loses its tension and rust preventing galvanized coating).

Native Americans, AKA American Indians, deliberately set wildfires, especially on the Great Plains.

The drought is bad in the Southwest. But 'climate change' has sh*t all to do with it.

Posted by: Sphynx at May 31, 2022 11:10 AM (rXie1)

46 Mrs D and I were driving thru New Mexico on day two of the fires. You could see the glow at night and we were miles away.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:10 AM (anj39)

47 Since all rights aren't absolute per Sponge Brain, lets do away with the entire federal government and Constitution and try that awhile.

I don't think it would be any worse...

Posted by: Archer at May 31, 2022 11:10 AM (gmo/4)

48 "What's the worst that could happen?"

Posted by: Forest Service intern at May 31, 2022 11:10 AM (UnQlg)

49 We get a lot of unleashed, "Controlled burns", in WA state. It's like the Forest Service are idiots or something.

Also, I note that today, per the WHO, is World Tobacco Free Day.
After I cut the grass out front I'll be enjoying a good cigar to celebrate.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at May 31, 2022 11:11 AM (HMWox)

50 The perfect campaign issue for Dem governor Lujan-Grisham to draw all attention away from her horrid governance. She'll try to stretch this out for months.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 31, 2022 11:08 AM (TNyrE)

A hyphenated name. Proof she's a twit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2022 11:11 AM (ojAeJ)

51 Just spitballing…..maybe the feds should just let fires happen, you know like they have been for thousands of years. And if you have a home in the middle of the forest, we’ll, what can I tell you? Maybe not the best idea. I feel the same about people in Cali who build homes on cliffs that inevitable slide into the ocean. Some places should not be inhabited by man.

I always think it’s a yuuuuge waste of resources to combat these monster fires that in the end only go out when it starts raining.snowing anyway.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:11 AM (3vQN0)

52 39 Arctic sea ice is at 30 year high. See... as the earth warms, the arctic will get warmer and cause more melting sea ice, which will cause more precipitation, and in turn cause more sea ice. The accumulation of more sea ice will cause sea levels to rise more than expected as the sea ice melts.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2022 11:08 AM (f8jdA)

The sad irony is that you could reproduce this and have it pronounced by GovernMedia, and the Pig- Ignorant Public would buy it.

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 11:11 AM (Vr12I)

53 After I cut the grass out front I'll be enjoying a good cigar to celebrate.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at May 31, 2022 11:11 AM (HMWox)

Somehow i don't think Jerry at the bodega will believe it when I ask him for my Free Tobacco in celebration of the day.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:11 AM (/EuRN)

54 Is the government competent at *anything* these days? EVERYTHING they touch just turns into a giant shitshow. And somehow we get blamed for it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 31, 2022 11:11 AM (YIVH2)

55 Forget Guns. Whatever Happened to Men?

https://tinyurl.com/3h64ctpb

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:11 AM (bvH+0)

56 The accumulation of more sea ice will cause sea levels to rise more than expected as the sea ice melts.

I see you are well-studied in YETI Tumbler Theory, where increased sea ice displaces the ocean like giant ice cubes in a YETI tumbler.

I, too, have followed this closely and am perfectly situated for ocean front property in Tennessee.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2022 11:12 AM (ELbmp)

57 Forest Service investigators determined the Calf Canyon Fire was caused by a "burn pile" of branches that the agency thought was out but reignited on April 19, the Santa Fe National Forest said in a statement.
++++
That is so entirely unacceptable that I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around it. "Thought it was out?" Based on what? How long did they wait before withdrawing fire support? How big was the "burn pile" and were the practices and equipment and personnel in place to deal with it?

Wildfire is awful, and I have had some nail-biters from when I lived in CO (evacuated, ready to run, kids in school losing their houses (though not mine, by the grace of G-d), etc.) and fire is a deadly monster. Controlled burns and the like help keep some of those risks down and is a vital form of active management. Controlled burns in high winds (if that's what happened) or failing to determine that your damn slash pile is actually extinguished post-burn is unconscionable.

If a camper said, "whoops, sorry, I thought my fire was out but it flared back up and there was nothing I could do," he'd likely be criminally charged and would be exposed to damn near limitless liability.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2022 11:12 AM (5zVb8)

58 ..The accumulation of more sea ice will cause sea levels to rise more than expected as the sea ice melts. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2022 11:08 AM (f8jdA)

I never knew you were a speechwriter for Kameluh Harris?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2022 11:12 AM (QzJWU)

59 Didn't the EPA undr preezy Shit Midas ruin a river for decades with their scew up? A totally unnecessary screw up because the present containment was doing its job and would continue to do so for a long time.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:06 AM (WKPeU)

Yes and it ran through a Navajo reservation.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 31, 2022 11:13 AM (y7DUB)

60 "...wildfires out west are like vandalism “hate crimes” on campus, and until proven otherwise, I should assume any such occurrence is a false-flag event ignited by left-wing activists. Or by incompetent government agencies."

...or by Jihad.

Posted by: Ju at May 31, 2022 11:13 AM (aTmM/)

61 Here in the south, we also do controlled burns during late winter/early spring. The under brush isn't all dried up. The USFS also has all the necessary equipment to make sure things don't get out of hand.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:13 AM (R5lpX)

62 Fake Dumbfuck Asshole Biden says he consulted "experts" about the lung blowing power of handguns.

What he failed to clarify was that they were mindfuck marketing experts. They devise this stuff to create a mental image for people to help fuck over their brains and persuade them to the Dumb Side.

It has nothing to do with science or what that dumbshit believes.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:13 AM (Rew5Q)

63 Global warming caused glaciers to melt which then froze. And now they will melt even faster cuz global climate change warming is accelerating.

Or something.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:13 AM (3vQN0)

64 If you don't believe in climate change, I'll nuke you.

Oh oh. Will the fib check me for nukes now since anybody can get one.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 31, 2022 11:09 AM (CbL5q)
***

Hey. Don't cha know a nuke can blow your lung out?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:14 AM (anj39)

65 H/T to Milton Friedman:

If you put the Federal Government in charge of forests, pretty soon, you'll have a shortage of forests.

Posted by: Archer at May 31, 2022 11:14 AM (gmo/4)

66 If you can’t do, teach

If you can’t teach, get a job with the government.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:15 AM (3vQN0)

67 By calling the government agencies “incompetent” you’re giving them the benefit of the doubt that they did not intend to create the hellfire.

Usually, I accept government incompetence is the correct answer whenever the government does something stupid…which is a lot.

But sometimes, incompetence does not fit the circumstances. Not with the New Mexico hellfire, and sure as hell not with the Uvalde massacre.

Posted by: Just a dummy at May 31, 2022 11:15 AM (1KNOM)

68 These SOBs knew this when the fires were going on. But no mention was ever made.

Posted by: vic at May 31, 2022 11:15 AM (mZwKe)

69 65 H/T to Milton Friedman:

If you put the Federal Government in charge of forests, pretty soon, you'll have a shortage of forests.

Hmmmm. Baby formula... Hmmmmm.

Posted by: Sphynx at May 31, 2022 11:15 AM (rXie1)

70 I was camping last year and was talking to a fireman from northern california. His specialty was scouting areas to thin back the trees. He was telling me that the environmentals won't allow that and it is a struggle to get the thinning done... if at all. He said part of the High Sierras are so bad that he would drive in and when he came back out there were dead trees that had dropped blocking the access roads.

99% of all our troubles is due to people thinking they are doing good and people in charge either not knowing that it is stupid or agreeing with these stupid ideas.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:15 AM (WKPeU)

71 If you a re going to build a home in the middle of the woods, then you need to factor in the cost of your own fire-fighting program. Big water cistern, and gasoline-powered pumps that you rig to spray a constant flow of water onto your (metal) roof if a fire draws near. And you clear underbrush for several hundred feet around your home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2022 11:15 AM (ojAeJ)

72 Nukes cause fires.
Just sayin'..

Posted by: Poo Tin at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (YQSpA)

73 What a fucking weird organ to choose.... "Blow your lung out".... seriously? Why lung? Why not heart? Spleen? Liver? Anything? Literally any organ would have been a slightly less weird choice than "lung".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (/EuRN)

74 Wildfires on the "great plains" were tremendous, and frightening as hell. Fast as the wind. Lewis & Clark wrote about them in their Journals. One young Indian brave was only saved because someone threw a green hide over his body, and the flames rushed over him, but several others were killed.

Not sure how it worked exactly, but Lewis also said lighting the prarie on fire was also a common way of saying "Let's meet for some horse trading".

Posted by: Common Tater at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (d2aM4)

75 Only forest fires prevent bears!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (Wy1BU)

76 Thanks for the link, SMH.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (Mf7Vh)

77 The NM fire is the perfect symbol of Biden's policies. Not only a failure but an absolute catastrophe because they think they believe in science. I'm pretty sure the head of the USFS is named Fauci. If not, he should be.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (1Cita)

78 well, fires start in all kinds of ways
out here in CO it doesn't take much, because of winds and low humidity setting the stage. Fires have started out here from vehicles parking on dry grass (hot exhaust pipes), cigarettes tossed out car windows, wind knocks down a power line and sparks a grass fire, and mainly lightning

arson too, of course, but that's not common
no, mostly it's just random shit

Posted by: DB at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (geLO8)

79 73 What a fucking weird organ to choose.... "Blow your lung out".... seriously? Why lung? Why not heart? Spleen? Liver? Anything? Literally any organ would have been a slightly less weird choice than "lung".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (/EuRN)

-------
He can't remember a damn thing these days. He needed a handy pneumonic

Posted by: 496 at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (VJsqe)

80 The USA is experiencing a controlled burn that got out of control.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (63Dwl)

81 ‘Like an inferno: the US Forest Service is there’

Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (RHGPo)

82 I’ve done work for various governments. A few states, a few federal departments. There are the occasional good people there. But on average, they are exactly what you think they are. Counting down the retirement clock and doing the absolute bare minimum required.

Ironically though I love those clients. Never an6 pressure. Deadlines are meh. And since they are on vacation every other week, I’m kind of on vacation too, but still billing full hours.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (3vQN0)

83 When I was a kid we had zoysia grass in our yard. A neighbor who claimed to "know things" told my dad it was easier to burn it than thatch it, as he'd been doing.

Got to see a fire truck up close and in person that day. It was awesome. The yard, not so much. Burned black and we tracked it all over the carpet. Mom was pissed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (BFigT)

84 If it wasn't for climate change they wouldn't have had to set that fire.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (Rew5Q)

85 Nothing new. There was a environmentally conscious guy that started setting fires to new custom home builds in the Phoenix area about 20 years ago. Guy was ticked off that they were too close to his mountain bike trails. Ended up torching about 10 houses before he got caught.

Posted by: Frank at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (2vIyg)

86 I remember the Smokey the Bear PSA that showed drowning your fire, spreading the ashes out then drowning it again and not leaving until the fire was cool enough to put your hand on and leave it. That announcement was played on television every day during the summer.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (yZP5E)

87 >>>"What's the worst that could happen?"

Posted by: Forest Service intern

>Mind your crackpipe, son. We don't want it getting away from you.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (BP3/z)

88 Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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NP.

Though this may be triggering for some:

"There has never been a successful matriarchy in Western history and there never will be. Neither sex would or should want it. And as for the 19th Amendment and its effect on American history, don't get me started..."

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (bvH+0)

89 If a camper said, "whoops, sorry, I thought my fire was out but it flared back up and there was nothing I could do," he'd likely be criminally charged and would be exposed to damn near limitless liability.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2022 11:12 AM (5zVb

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Make any bets there are protocols in place for such a thing and those protocols were ignored?

By the way, I got an up close and personal look at how quickly a fire can go out of control. Where I used to work, every afternoon, a strong breeze would come up. Also, high desert, so, very dry. Anyone with a lick of sense would know better than to burn their burn pile. Well, a guy did it, the fire spread to a field of tall dry grass, and, "whoom" that fire was off to the races. Fortunately, local fire fighting got on top of it early, but, it was scary how fast that fire moved. Also, dry pine trees go up like a roman candles in a forest fire. Amazing and scary sight.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (5pTK/)

90 Assoooo! 9mm of London. They'll blow your lungs out, Jim.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (1Cita)

91 84 If it wasn't for climate change they wouldn't have had to set that fire.
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (Rew5Q)

========

That fire was the equivalent of me turning on my SUV, like, three times.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (LvTSG)

92 We tried to burn your forests down with incinderary balloons.

If we had known you would do it yourselves we wouldn't have bothered trying.

Posted by: Greater East Asian CoProsperity Sphere at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (YQSpA)

93 Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (3vQN0)
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That's nice.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:19 AM (bvH+0)

94 Nothing new. There was a environmentally conscious guy that started setting fires to new custom home builds in the Phoenix area about 20 years ago. Guy was ticked off that they were too close to his mountain bike trails. Ended up torching about 10 houses before he got caught.

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That's the kind of guy who should be behind bars for the rest of his life.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at May 31, 2022 11:19 AM (sX1BW)

95 Ok I’ll say it. Fire is a tool of the white supremacist patriarchy to enslave BIPOC and members of the lgbtqabc123xyz community.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (3vQN0)

96 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2022 11:15 AM (ojAeJ)

A fire break around your home is a no brainer unless you're willing to potentially lose your home in exchange for aesthetics.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (4+wAL)

97 There is no problem so bad that the government can't make it worse.

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (pkAcY)

98 There is a pattern that most won't acknowledge about major Forest Fires. Almost all happen 'out west'. Why? Because they almost always happen on Government owned land... and the vast majority of land in the EAST is privately owned.

Funny, how when normal people own something, they take care of it so it does not have the CONDITIONS for large fires... but BLM? (Bumbling Land Mismanagement?) sure seems to have a LOT of large fires.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (oHd/0)

99 This whole story is the reason why immunity of government workers is a thing.

Protect the tribe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (LvTSG)

100 That fire was the equivalent of me turning on my SUV, like, three times.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (LvTSG)
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Must be a hummer

Posted by: 496 at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (VJsqe)

101
We used to have controlled burns when I lived in California about 25 years ago, until the Luddites sued and the state stopped the practice.

Leaving all that dry material was just asking for trouble. And it happened. Several times since in the intervening years.

Arson in the name of Gaia is something else entirely.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (s2VJv)

102 Give Skippy the gender studies summer intern a 5 gal can of diesel and tell him to burn up that pile of brush out on the range.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (f8jdA)

103 Got to see a fire truck up close and in person that day. It was awesome. The yard, not so much. Burned black and we tracked it all over the carpet. Mom was pissed.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (BFigT)

The funny thing is, you really don't have to de-thatch zoysia as much as you do other lawn grasses. It likes a thin layer of thatch just to act as a mulch, and it doesn't really get thicker than a half inch or so as long as you're maintaining your lawn properly.

(I moved in to a house with a zoysia lawn... i've been doing a lot of research on it. It really isn't like cold-season grasses at all. )

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (/EuRN)

104 That is so entirely unacceptable that I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around it. "Thought it was out?" Based on what?

Mannix
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If it makes you feel better it is almost definitely a lie.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:20 AM (Rew5Q)

105 That's the kind of guy who should be behind bars for the rest of his life.
Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at May 31, 2022 11:19 AM (sX1BW)

Fuck that. Shoot him, and feed him to the javelinas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2022 11:21 AM (ojAeJ)

106 81 ‘Like an inferno: the US Forest Service is there’
Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (RHGPo)
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US Forest Service: JUST LIGHT IT

Posted by: WisRich at May 31, 2022 11:21 AM (G0vdT)

107 Recall this --

The 2015 Gold King Mine waste water spill was an environmental disaster that began at the Gold King Mine near Silverton, Colorado,[2] when Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) personnel, along with workers for Environmental Restoration LLC (a Missouri company under EPA contract to mitigate pollutants from the closed mine), caused the release of toxic waste water into the Animas River watershed. They caused the accident by breaching a tailings dam while attempting to drain ponded water near the entrance of the mine on August 5.[3] After the spill, the Silverton Board of Trustees and the San Juan County Commission approved a joint resolution seeking Superfund money.

Three million gallons of highly toxic waste water was dumped into the Animus river, from which many communities downstream drew their drinking water. It was a spill caused by the EPA. And of course they fought any lawsuits against their actions. Claimed damages were $1.2 BILLION. I dunno what the final outcome was, except this...

No fucking body went to jail. And so it goes. Top. Men.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (F0YaR)

108 That is so entirely unacceptable that I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around it. "Thought it was out?" Based on what?

Mannix
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If it makes you feel better it is almost definitely a lie.
Posted by: ...
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This^

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (bvH+0)

109 You all point out the obvious but I'm sure that the Forest Service met all their DIE (Division, Inequity, and Exclusion) goals. So it was all worth it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (WKPeU)

110 >>>What a fucking weird organ to choose.... "Blow your lung out".... seriously?

>The 9mm methpipe is a weapon of war. Kevlar won't help you.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (BP3/z)

111 99% of all our troubles is due to people thinking they are doing good and people in charge either not knowing that it is stupid or agreeing with these stupid ideas.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:15 AM (WKPeU)
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PG&E was bankrupted by a fire that wasn't necessarily their fault. They weren't allowed to access equipment they knew was failing and, on top of that, they were not allowed to cut back the forest along their power line right of way.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (5pTK/)

112 The controlled burns are important (also important that they are *controlled*.) But it's sort of crazy to try that this year in New Mexico as there hasn't been rain AT ALL. Even just grilling in my own back yard I run the hose and water the ground all around my Webber.

Posted by: Synova at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (BD/yx)

113 Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2022 11:18 AM (yZP5E)

Only you can prevent forest fires.

Unless the government gets involved.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (4+wAL)

114
Assoooo! 9mm of London. They'll blow your lungs out, Jim.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

I'd like to meet his tailor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (63Dwl)

115 Only WE can prevent forests!

Posted by: Your Friends At The U.S. Forest Service at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (Vjok0)

116 a good portion of USFS worker annual income comes from their extra pay for fighting wildfires. This contributes to the USFS not aggressively using water tanker aircraft - the employees don't want to lose their $$ from fighting fires by hand and so on.

Thanks to various enviro-nazi groups even an agency or private landowner that wants to do sensible land management to clear underbrush (with goats, cattle, or bulldozers under power lines) gets bound with red tape so the conditions are ripe for any fire to become an out of control wildfire.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (3cGpq)

117 No fucking body went to jail. And so it goes. Top. Men.
Posted by: GnuBreed
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You're less inclined to be disappointed when you don't expect justice in this world.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (bvH+0)

118 What a fucking weird organ to choose.... "Blow your lung out".... seriously? Why lung? Why not heart? Spleen? Liver? Anything? Literally any organ would have been a slightly less weird choice than "lung".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (/EuRN)

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Sometimes, the lung ends up several blocks away. The victim has to go searching for it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (XG2Fi)

119 94
That's the kind of guy who should be behind bars for the rest of his life.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at May 31, 2022 11:19 AM (sX1BW)

He probably got a light sentence and ordered to make restitution. No matter that restitution would be in the millions which he could not pay.

Posted by: vic at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (mZwKe)

120 And then there is the Exceptional Drought situation that is going on in the West. Does not take a genius to think that maybe now is not the time to go playing with fire.

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (Vr12I)

121 55 Forget Guns. Whatever Happened to Men?

I saw a funny meme online yesterday.

It pictured a school kid looking depressed at his desk and the caption read "When It's Career Day and Your Police Officer Father is Too Afraid to Come in the School".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (ELbmp)

122 arson too, of course, but that's not common
no, mostly it's just random shit
Posted by: DB at May 31, 2022 11:17 AM (geLO

Hayman fire? Started by a Forestry Service Teck?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (oHd/0)

123 Anthropogenic Climate Change is horseshit, does not exist and is a marxist lie.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (j/cB/)

124 109 You all point out the obvious but I'm sure that the Forest Service met all their DIE (Division, Inequity, and Exclusion) goals. So it was all worth it.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (WKPeU)

"DIE in a fire."

Lawl.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (/EuRN)

125 PG&E was bankrupted by a fire that wasn't necessarily their fault. They weren't allowed to access equipment they knew was failing and, on top of that, they were not allowed to cut back the forest along their power line right of way.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (5pTK/)

Pure fucking insanity.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (Mf7Vh)

126 I was reading someone, maybe Joe Walsh or maybe it was J. E. Dyer, who said the worst part about the disintegration of the country is that we literally can't trust the government in any way, to do anything.

And a people without trust in the government is the death of the Republic. J. E. Dyer in particular was rare sharp and clear in her Memorial Day post (check it out, please https://tinyurl.com/28mzrku3 ), the 2016 and 2020 elections and the Democrat fraud is killing the last, best hope for humanity.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (xcxpd)

127 Wassup with the eggheads starting fires?

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:24 AM (bvH+0)

128 It's totally in keeping with the Bizarro World reverse bad Kirk, bad Spock scenario we are living in. I guess...

The Forest Service. Smoky the Bear. Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires. They used to have PSAs on the radio admonishing people not to throw ciggies out the car window, make sure campfire is out. Forests are valuable resource for Timber, Wildlife, Recreation - even National Defense.

Technically speaking, I read some USFS document, every visitor to National Forest is required to have a shovel and a bucket with them at their camp, (and can probably be enlisted to help fight a fire) though I didn't get that far.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 31, 2022 11:24 AM (d2aM4)

129 Well known fact. Prior to the invention of the suv there had never been a drought before.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:24 AM (3vQN0)

130 Oh and it gets better. They are blaming not the prescribed burn itself but on "unexpected erratic winds" caused by guess what.

So many punchlines, so little time.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:24 AM (R7OS9)

131 Deer can survive the impact of the deadly 9mm round but only because they've taken to wearing Kevlar vests.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2022 11:24 AM (XG2Fi)

132 Face it. Except for naming and persecuting white supremacists, no one in the federal government is competent at anything whatsoever.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 31, 2022 11:24 AM (R0Tis)

133 In an interview after the release of "The Bell Curve", author Charles Murray said that "if it was ever shown that one race was inferior to another, that politicians would do everything possible to hide it".

But here, with the implementation "to adjust classroom grading scales to account for skin color or ethnicity of its students," the Oak Park and River Forest High School (OPRF) administrators have proven Murray wrong.

Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2022 11:25 AM (RHGPo)

134 Global climate warming change now causes wind too?

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:25 AM (3vQN0)

135 PG&E was bankrupted by a fire that wasn't necessarily their fault. They weren't allowed to access equipment they knew was failing and, on top of that, they were not allowed to cut back the forest along their power line right of way.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 31, 2022 11:22 AM (5pTK/)

Yeah, and funny how the NEXT year, suddenly, there were logger trucks all over the mountains... cutting trees back from power lines.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2022 11:25 AM (oHd/0)

136 Obviously the Placeholder Junta didn't get any guidance from this lesson courtesy of the Texas Forest Service.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHlf0cMSEi0
Eddie Arnold and Gene Autrey did songs about Smokey the Bear. That's how long he's been around. I guess the Very Smart Environmentalists never heard of him, or decided he wasn't "good enough".

Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 11:25 AM (W+kMI)

137 Rumors are that the Feds are responsible for loosing CWD on the Cervid population in the US too. And guess whut? I believe it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (QSjkU)

138 18 Lol. Imagine taking your medical advice from the government.
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One of the covid articles JJ linked this morning said that the CDC gets over 40% of its funding from vaccine patents and vaccine products.

But yeah, the CDC certainly had no reason to push inadequately-tested covid vaccines, and unlimited boosters, on the public, right?

Remember last year, when the CDC was assuring Americans that the rumors that covid vaccines could change human DNA was all a bunch of ridiculous anti-vaxx conspiracy nonsense? "The vaccine can't penetrate the cell nucleus, so of course it can't alter your DNA, you deplorable fools!" said the CDC authoritatively.

Then some Swiss scientists did experiments with the vaccines and human liver cells, and oopsie, not only can the vaccines penetrate the cell nucleus and change cell DNA, but they do it within mere hours of the vaccines being injected in the body.

But yeah, trust the government.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (MvHI3)

139 I am not so sure because they put me under but, a 9mm might have blown out my appendix

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (flINI)

140 134 Global climate warming change now causes wind too?
Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:25 AM (3vQN0)
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Refer to #10 above

Posted by: 496 at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (VJsqe)

141 I clicked on the link to the comments and found myself listening to some guy with a Russian accent telling me how to build a landing page. Huh?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (eGTCV)

142 Smokey The Bear sez 'Only the US gubmint can start forest fires'.

A single tear rolls down the cheek of some anonymous bureaucrat.

Who will never be held accountable.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (F0YaR)

143 Is Woodsey Owl still around?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (UEVGE)

144 1 Yeah Buddy
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:00 AM (R5lpX)

Funky Chuckles, is that you?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (xcxpd)

145 Pretty sure a 9mm blew out my tonsils and adnoids

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (flINI)

146 Erratic winds.

The excuses get more ridiculous by the day.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (Mf7Vh)

147 What a fucking weird organ to choose.... "Blow your lung out".... seriously? Why lung? Why not heart? Spleen? Liver? Anything? Literally any organ would have been a slightly less weird choice than "lung".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (/EuRN)

Let's see if we can follow the logic. *Puts on his geriatric retard hat*. What are your lungs for? You breathe oxygen into your lungs. Lungs hold oxygen. Guns shoot bullets. Bullets put holes in things. Shooting someone in the chest will cause the bullets to travel through him. The bullets will travel through the lungs. The lungs hold the oxygen. Bullets will put holes in the lungs. Oxygen will blow out the holes in the lungs made by the bullets.

Ergo a 9mm will blow out a lung.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:27 AM (6ALXN)

148 The way I heard it, since PG&E isn't allowed to trim anything back hardly, AND they are on the hook for any damage that results

They just turn off the juice if it gets windy. Millions potentially, sitting in the dark. It's easier that way

Posted by: Common Tater at May 31, 2022 11:27 AM (d2aM4)

149 134 Global climate warming change now causes wind too?

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:25 AM (3vQN0)

It's diversifying.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:27 AM (R7OS9)

150 130 Oh and it gets better. They are blaming not the prescribed burn itself but on "unexpected erratic winds" caused by guess what.

So many punchlines, so little time.
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:24 AM (R7OS9)

Eww Eww.... Mr Kotttteeerrrr...

Its caused by wind pattern changes that happen when large Windmill Farms take energy out of the normal wind patterns?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2022 11:27 AM (oHd/0)

151 127 Wassup with the eggheads starting fires?
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It was necessary to burn down the wilderness in order to save it.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 11:27 AM (W+kMI)

152 Always follow the money.

Who stood to benefit from that fire? Find that out and you will find out the reason it occurred.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:27 AM (3vQN0)

153 141 I clicked on the link to the comments and found myself listening to some guy with a Russian accent telling me how to build a landing page. Huh?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (eGTCV)

There's a popup ad afflicting us, Pixy hasn't gotten around to fixing it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:27 AM (xcxpd)

154 You ever hear them say global warming is good for anything ? That's your clue, it's bullshit

Posted by: Stupid Lefities at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (M+Lyo)

155 154 You ever hear them say global warming is good for anything ? That's your clue, it's bullshit
Posted by: Stupid Lefities at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (M+Lyo)

Shush, laddie!

Posted by: Scottish Winemakers at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (/EuRN)

156 You ever hear them say global warming is good for anything ? That's your clue, it's bullshit
Posted by: Stupid Lefities at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (M+Lyo)

Off sock.

seriously, anything ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (M+Lyo)

157 The riots of 2020 were government controlled burns.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (Qhnrt)

158 I saw Erotic Winds do an opening dance for Seka at the Hustler club in LA in '94

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (flINI)

159 This is the hottest May 31st since 1872! Climate change!

What made 1872 so hot?

Well, climate change! We just didn't know about it yet!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2022 11:29 AM (f8jdA)

160 156 You ever hear them say global warming is good for anything ? That's your clue, it's bullshit
Posted by: Stupid Lefities at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (M+Lyo)

Off sock.

seriously, anything ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (M+Lyo)

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Warmer weather leads to higher crop yields which feeds more people. This is bad because the global warming movement is anti-human.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

161 Only you can prevent forest fires, because the forest service is starting them.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 31, 2022 11:29 AM (lTGtQ)

162 Friends home was lost in Dixie Fire at Indian Falls. Picture of house burning in dark made all the news. Worked at mill in Quincy. After living in RV until winter set in had to quit job and move away.... because there are no rentals and the few houses for sale are really expensive.

Life in tatters at 55 years old.

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 11:29 AM (YQSpA)

163 "Erotic Winds" sounds like Eric Swalwell's Comicon name...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:29 AM (/EuRN)

164 What a fucking weird organ to choose.... "Blow your lung out".... seriously? Why lung? Why not heart? Spleen? Liver? Anything? Literally any organ would have been a slightly less weird choice than "lung".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (/EuRN)

Ironically (?) I've heard that exact statement made about .357 magnum 158 JHP rounds. In fact, I think Clint from Thunder Ranch said it to me?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:29 AM (xcxpd)

165 Here in San Diego, when the weather is dry and the Santa Ana winds start up, the "firebugs" start a good number of fires.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2022 11:29 AM (ynpvh)

166 Blazing a more than 40-mile-long (64-km-long) path up the Sangre de Cristo mountains, the fire has destroyed watersheds and forests used for centuries by Indo-Hispano farming villages and Native American communities.

Meh. Those were filthy hovels. We'll build condos for them.

Posted by: US Forest Service at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (cTCuP)

167 148 The way I heard it, since PG&E isn't allowed to trim anything back hardly, AND they are on the hook for any damage that results

They just turn off the juice if it gets windy. Millions potentially, sitting in the dark. It's easier that way
Posted by: Common Tater at May 31, 2022 11:27 AM (d2aM4)

It seems to depend on the County, and who owns the surrounding land. Its like the DAs in some places that won't prosecute? Some places still give PG&E permits to do what they need to do.... some places won't.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (oHd/0)

168 Now me, I say most man-caused wildfires are started by stoned hippies, meth-heads who wander away, homeless bums who are drunk/stoned and prefer warmth to safety, and illegals who have the same motive as the bums. But no, we don't get to hear about those causes, and if reported they're soon smothered by the Climate Control Marxists.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (W+kMI)

169 We do controlled burns and don't let them get out of hand here in the South. Wonder what we do that they don't.
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM

Care. You care.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (R/uuE)

170 Idiots should just hire kids from the inner cities to spend the summers clearing brush in all the national forests. They would actually learn something about forests, get some good exercise and sun, and help keep the amount of burnable material out of the forests.

You don't need controlled burns to tend to a forest. Just brains and elbow grease.

Our Forest Service employees need to be sent to Germany for training on the proper care and feeding of forests. Germany does a great job with theirs.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (Ig1hs)

171 Amazing how 1 degree increase in global terms has all these effects. Let’s say all the bullshit were real and my su. Really did case GW. The result is a 1 degree increase in temps. So in NM instead of it being 62 it was 63. And that caused wildfires? Lol. Pull the other finger.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (3vQN0)

172 158 I saw Erotic Winds do an opening dance for Seka at the Hustler club in LA in '94
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (flINI)

*perks up*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (xcxpd)

173 The grocery delivery people screwed up today. My order was complete.

Then I found a quart of ice cream. Good thing I checked, because I hadn't ordered anything that would melt. Then I found a huge pack of sliced Turkey ... a huge pack of sliced Ham, and a hefty pack of American cheese singles.

Some poor bastard is pissed off about now. No sammiches and Ice cream for lunch

Posted by: Common Tater at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (d2aM4)

174 Little known fact: The 9 mm Parabellum is responsible for 80% of all B-17 shoot downs in the Euroweenie theater in WW II. (Joe tole me)

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (QSjkU)

175 Hey, honey, we "service" you good!

Posted by: USFS at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (w9Wax)

176 One of the covid articles JJ linked this morning said that the CDC gets over 40% of its funding from vaccine patents and vaccine products.

Yeah, I read an article on Substack about that a few weeks ago.

I think the latest available FOIA'd material was from 2016 as far as how much each individual at the CDC (including Fauci) for from royalties, and most of the reporting was heavily redacted.

There is no telling how much Fauci made off of vaccines in 2020-21. I'd estimate as much as 8 figures.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (ELbmp)

177 164 What a fucking weird organ to choose.... "Blow your lung out".... seriously? Why lung? Why not heart? Spleen? Liver? Anything? Literally any organ would have been a slightly less weird choice than "lung".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (/EuRN)

Ironically (?) I've heard that exact statement made about .357 magnum 158 JHP rounds. In fact, I think Clint from Thunder Ranch said it to me?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:29 AM (xcxpd)

From a nuke attack, I'd expect both lungs to be disrupted.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

178 170 Idiots should just hire kids from the inner cities to spend the summers clearing brush in all the national forests.

Dude that is the most white supremacist thing I have ever heard.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:31 AM (3vQN0)

179 My suggestion of how F. Joe came up with "blow a lung out"? He remembers the line in the song "Werewolves of London" where we're told, "He'll rip your lungs out, Jim."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 31, 2022 11:31 AM (txdEq)

180 "Erotic Winds" sounds like Eric Swalwell's Comicon name...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:29 AM (/EuRN)

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I produce erotic winds from time to time

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at May 31, 2022 11:31 AM (flINI)

181 The way I heard it, since PG&E isn't allowed to trim anything back hardly, AND they are on the hook for any damage that results

They just turn off the juice if it gets windy. Millions potentially, sitting in the dark. It's easier that way
Posted by: Common Tater

CHARGE THOSE CARS!!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 11:31 AM (R/uuE)

182 Off sock.

seriously, anything ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 31, 2022 11:28 AM (M+Lyo)

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Warmer weather leads to higher crop yields which feeds more people. This is bad because the global warming movement is anti-human.
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So were the Aztecs. Human sacrifice has been modernized, but it still has the same purpose. Appeasement of Gaia. Seriously, superstitious paganism is the religion of the progressive.

Posted by: But they're so SMART at May 31, 2022 11:31 AM (AJU3w)

183 Idiots should just hire kids from the inner cities to spend the summers clearing brush in all the national forests.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (Ig1hs)

So they can shoot each other in the forests, too?

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:31 AM (6ALXN)

184 I dream of a world where the temperature is always 75 degrees and it rains only on Wednesday and Thursday between the hours of 2:00 am and 4:00am.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (4+wAL)

185 Continuing the theme that there is literally NOTHING the federal government does effectively.

Posted by: deadrody at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (SnywI)

186 Forest Fires are an Industry.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (CLGrc)

187 185 Continuing the theme that there is literally NOTHING the federal government does effectively.

oh I disagree!

they fuck shit up EXTREMELY effectively!

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (w0NJk)

188 Who stood to benefit from that fire? Find that out and you will find out the reason it occurred.

OK, OK, you caught me. Look, work hasn't exactly been good lately, you know? A bear can't live by pic-a-nic baskets alone.

Posted by: Smokey the Bear at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (ZsR3z)

189 I also blame the failure of public education. When I was young, I had a Little Golden Book about Smokey the Bear. There were other books about Smokey at the school library and the county library. There was Smokey Bear featured on Fire Safety Day at elementary school. There were Smokey PSA ads on TV every freakin' summer! But in the past two decades Smokey has practically disappeared from public discourse.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (W+kMI)

190 "Erotic Winds" sounds like Eric Swalwell's Comicon name.

That's the polite way to say "hummer" in mixed company.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (R/uuE)

191 I saw a funny meme online yesterday.

It pictured a school kid looking depressed at his desk and the caption read "When It's Career Day and Your Police Officer Father is Too Afraid to Come in the School".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (ELbmp)

Dang. That's brutal.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (anj39)

192 As to The Semi-Sentient Vegetable's declaration that a 9mm bullet can drag your lung out of your body...

You'll put your lung out, kid.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (F0YaR)

193 Forest fires have always been a good thing.

Posted by: MiniTru at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (R6ndO)

194 Joe Biden was a firefighter for the forestry service. He remembers the time the fire was so hot it singed the blonde hair on his legs.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (eGTCV)

195 Friends home was lost in Dixie Fire at Indian Falls. Picture of house burning in dark made all the news. Worked at mill in Quincy. After living in RV until winter set in had to quit job and move away.... because there are no rentals and the few houses for sale are really expensive.

Life in tatters at 55 years old.
Posted by: torabora
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Prayers up for your friend.

I know how hard it is to start over.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (bvH+0)

196 Now me, I say most man-caused wildfires are started by stoned hippies, meth-heads who wander away, homeless bums who are drunk/stoned and prefer warmth to safety, and illegals who have the same motive as the bums. But no, we don't get to hear about those causes, and if reported they're soon smothered by the Climate Control Marxists.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (W+kMI)

Anyone know where the "Rainbow People" are at present?

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (AwYPR)

197 Ah, the USDA. Screwing up your food, burning down your forests - all part of " Greening."

Posted by: Lola at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (NIYa7)

198 Well this fits the narrative of apocalyptic climate change that say we all need the Green New Eel.

Posted by: Puddinhead at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (0chEi)

199 From a nuke attack, I'd expect both lungs to be disrupted.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

They also might affect other parts of the body.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (XvPQV)

200 183 Idiots should just hire kids from the inner cities to spend the summers clearing brush in all the national forests.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (Ig1hs)

So they can shoot each other in the forests, too?

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:31 AM (6ALXN)

makes hiding the bodies easier.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

201 189 I also blame the failure of public education. When I was young, I had a Little Golden Book about Smokey the Bear. There were other books about Smokey at the school library and the county library. There was Smokey Bear featured on Fire Safety Day at elementary school. There were Smokey PSA ads on TV every freakin' summer! But in the past two decades Smokey has practically disappeared from public discourse.
Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (W+kMI)

Way I heard it Smokey contributed to ending a lot of fire based forest management in the west.

Posted by: Someguy's at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (dOlhY)

202 There was Smokey Bear featured on Fire Safety Day at elementary school. There were Smokey PSA ads on TV every freakin' summer! But in the past two decades Smokey has practically disappeared from public discourse.

Posted by: exdem13

Some bureaucrat assumed Smokey was using cigarettes.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (lTGtQ)

203 But in the past two decades Smokey has practically disappeared from public discourse.
Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (W+kMI)

We had to get rid of Smoky time in order to find time for discussions on coming out as lgbtqxyz123abc.
- your school district

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (3vQN0)

204 I wonder who in the Forest service will be the patsy for this staged event?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (bVYXr)

205 all part of " Greening."
Posted by: Lola at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (NIYa7)

Like a spoiled cheese, or a dead body in a river.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (/EuRN)

206 I have a patch with Smokey the Bear on it. On it, Smokey says, "Only you can prevent Socialism".

Posted by: Archer at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (gmo/4)

207 I saw a funny meme online yesterday.

It pictured a school kid looking depressed at his desk and the caption read "When It's Career Day and Your Police Officer Father is Too Afraid to Come in the School".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2022 11:23 AM (ELbmp)

Dang. That's brutal.
Posted by: Diogenes

That's awesome!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (R/uuE)

208 Anyone know where the "Rainbow People" are at present?
Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (AwYPR)

They live next to Elanor Rigby's Lonely People.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (XvPQV)

209 203 We had to get rid of Smoky time in order to find time for discussions on coming out as lgbtqxyz123abc.
- your school district
Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (3vQN0)

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Also, how to use heroin safely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (LvTSG)

210 184 I dream of a world where the temperature is always 75 degrees and it rains only on Wednesday and Thursday between the hours of 2:00 am and 4:00am.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (4+wAL)

Called air conditioning/heating and an water system.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2022 11:35 AM (ynpvh)

211 On the bright side, every forest the federal government burns down can be given back to the indians for reparations.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2022 11:35 AM (BP3/z)

212 I lived in NM in 2000 when the Cerro Grande fire was intentionally set by the USFS. They forgot to check the weather forecast and didn't realize that it is windy in NM in the spring, so they went ahead with their big plan. It was a huge fire, taking out part of Los Alamos, LANL and much of Bandelier.

Posted by: huerfano at May 31, 2022 11:35 AM (MzKgG)

213 184 I dream of a world where the temperature is always 75 degrees and it rains only on Wednesday and Thursday between the hours of 2:00 am and 4:00am.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 11:32 AM (4+wAL)

Camelot?
It's true, it's true, the crown has made it clear
The climate must be perfect all the year
A law was made a distant moon ago here
July and August cannot be too hot
And there's a legal limit to the snow here in Camelot
The winter is forbidden till December
And exits March the second on the dot
By order, summer lingers through September in Camelot

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2022 11:35 AM (oHd/0)

214 Climate change is like a miracle placebo. It causes flooding and drought at the same time. The cause of climate change is...everything vegans and bike riders don't like.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 31, 2022 11:35 AM (glT7P)

215 makes hiding the bodies easier.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2022 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

No body, no crime.

Crime rate falls.

Ya know, I think this could work.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:35 AM (6ALXN)

216 Funky Chuckles, is that you?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM (xcxpd)

Hell no!...This is Chunky Fuckles.

Seriously though, Traveling Man used to be my nick before I retired.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (R5lpX)

217 Smokey is back to wearing a cowboy hat and doling out handjobs for cheeseburgers behind the King of Doner.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (/EuRN)

218 192 As to The Semi-Sentient Vegetable's declaration that a 9mm bullet can drag your lung out of your body...

You'll put your lung out, kid.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (F0YaR)

What a drag.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

219 Could somebody put me some f-ing knowledge. What's a Indo-Hispano?

I think the politically correct wordsmiths have lost the plot again.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (LaNzR)

220 >>> 147 What a fucking weird organ to choose.... "Blow your lung out".... seriously? Why lung? Why not heart? Spleen? Liver? Anything? Literally any organ would have been a slightly less weird choice than "lung".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:16 AM (/EuRN)

Let's see if we can follow the logic. *Puts on his geriatric retard hat*. What are your lungs for? You breathe oxygen into your lungs. Lungs hold oxygen. Guns shoot bullets. Bullets put holes in things. Shooting someone in the chest will cause the bullets to travel through him. The bullets will travel through the lungs. The lungs hold the oxygen. Bullets will put holes in the lungs. Oxygen will blow out the holes in the lungs made by the bullets.

Ergo a 9mm will blow out a lung.
Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:27 AM (6ALXN)

"Excuse me, Miss, I speak Geriatric Retard..."

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (llON8)

221 I've long thought that 99% of these out-of-control wildfires are the result of deliberate sabotage or incompetent government intervention

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (iFTx/)

222 Called air conditioning/heating and an water system.
Posted by: jim
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Which are getting more expensive by the day, judging by the bills I just paid.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (bvH+0)

223 exdem13-

I had that same book.
And as a twelve-year old Girl Scout (Old School), I could tell when a fire was out.

Posted by: sal at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (bJKUl)

224 Little known fact: The 9 mm Parabellum is responsible for 80% of all B-17 shoot downs in the Euroweenie theater in WW II. (Joe tole me)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (QSjkU)

Everyone knows that Sergeant Rock used a 9mm to wipe out those machine gun nests.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (anj39)

225 This leggy lady in a blue dress doesn't buy the "climate change" argument:
https://is.gd/g57svD

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (5zVb8)

226 They are thanking their lucky stars that it was forest service people starting the fires, instead of one of the free crack pipes they mailed out.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (lTGtQ)

227 But in the past two decades Smokey has practically disappeared from public discourse.

I'm trying get a gig in the Administration's next push for free crack pipes.

Posted by: Smokey The Bear at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (R6ndO)

228 219 Could somebody put me some f-ing knowledge. What's a Indo-Hispano?

I think the politically correct wordsmiths have lost the plot again.
Posted by: Minuteman at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (LaNzR)

Indo-European refers roughly to Caucasians. Indo-Hispano sounds like someone mangling it.

Posted by: Someguy's at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (dOlhY)

229 200 183 Idiots should just hire kids from the inner cities to spend the summers clearing brush in all the national forests.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 31, 2022 11:30 AM (Ig1hs)

So they can shoot each other in the forests, too?

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:31 AM (6ALXN)

makes hiding the bodies easier.
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Coyotes gotta eat, too, you know.

Posted by: Puddinhead at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (0chEi)

230 Seriously though, Traveling Man used to be my nick before I retired.
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (R5lpX)

Gotcha, stay groovy

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (XvPQV)

231 I remember once on the same day there two articles in the “news” blaming both extreme cold and extreme hear on climate change. It was about 10 years ago. It was glorious.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (3vQN0)

232
So they can shoot each other in the forests, too?
Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:31 AM (6ALXN)

Buzzards and worms gotta eat too.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 31, 2022 11:38 AM (Qhnrt)

233 When I first visited NM in '92, I hiked in Bandelier national Monument. I took a break near midday, fished out the pipe and tobacco I'd brought with me, and had a short smoke. Then, when I was done, I tapped the last bits out onto dry ground and doused them with water, scattered and ground them down with my boot, and splashed some more water on them. They were *out*.

Why can't other people do that?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 31, 2022 11:38 AM (txdEq)

234 How many dousing of the fire does it take to put it out Forrest Service?

Forrest Service: "We don't know. Let's find out. One one... two who... three hisss. Three."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:38 AM (WKPeU)

235 225 This leggy lady in a blue dress doesn't buy the "climate change" argument:
https://is.gd/g57svD
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (5zVb

Yea! Sexy lady!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:38 AM (XvPQV)

236 Anyone know where the "Rainbow People" are at present?
Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2022 11:33 AM (AwYPR)

Around Mother's Day, they were probably at the South Toe River Biannual Reunion not too far from Mount Mitchell in NC.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:38 AM (R5lpX)

237 The one and only horrible fire season in Florida history was Spring of 1997. It was year 7 of a Dem as Governor. By 1998 the reign of Dems was over as was bad fire seasons. Want to stop forrest fires, stop Dems.

Posted by: Gogo Con at May 31, 2022 11:38 AM (sMG2y)

238 Could somebody put me some f-ing knowledge. What's a Indo-Hispano?

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$30 dollars. Same as in town

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 31, 2022 11:38 AM (flINI)

239 221 I've long thought that 99% of these out-of-control wildfires are the result of deliberate sabotage or incompetent government intervention
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (iFTx/)

Well also nature.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (3vQN0)

240 219 Could somebody put me some f-ing knowledge. What's a Indo-Hispano?

I think the politically correct wordsmiths have lost the plot again.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (LaNzR)

Sounds like most of Latin America. I mean, most folks south of the US border (and quite a few north) have native and Spanish/Portugese blood.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (ynpvh)

241 "Think of how much worse these fires would have been without the US Forest Service on hand!"

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (R6ndO)

242 Indo-European refers roughly to Caucasians. Indo-Hispano sounds like someone mangling it.
Posted by: Someguy's

Indo-Endo is what helps monkey pox to spread

Posted by: Bruce at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (oNoS3)

243 New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham supported the pause (in controlled burns), saying, "It is critical that federal agencies update and modernize these practices in response to a changing climate, as what used to be considered extreme conditions are now much more common - the situation unfolding in New Mexico right now demonstrates without a doubt the grave consequences of neglecting to do so."
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They set a fucking fire and fucked up. How can you seriously fight this bullshit when all they do is lie? There's only one thing they will listen to and it's not reason.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (Tlt/x)

244 I am starting to suspect that wildfires out west are like vandalism “hate crimes” on campus, and that until proven otherwise, I should assume any such occurrence is a false-flag event ignited by left-wing activists. Or by incompetent government agencies.

aka "The Enemy Within"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (AHeqJ)

245 It’s a safe bet that when anything goes wrong you can blame it on global warming, guns or racism.

Posted by: keena at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (RiTnx)

246 This leggy lady in a blue dress doesn't buy the "climate change" argument:
https://is.gd/g57svD
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2022 11:37 AM (5zVb

*Sees classy babe with come hither eyes*

*Goes thither*

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (6ALXN)

247 Saw Tip Gun this weekend.
Can't wait for the first "Bob" memes to show up.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (anj39)

248 Could somebody put me some f-ing knowledge. What's a Indo-Hispano?

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No Yellow

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (M+Lyo)

249 246 *Sees classy babe with come hither eyes*

*Goes thither*
Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (6ALXN)

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*falls off cliff*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (LvTSG)

250 It's always struck me as bizarre that the Indo-European family is so... large. And covers such a huge range of the variety of humans. You look at a Sino-Tibetan, and you know you're looking a a Sino-Tibetan. An IE could be anything from a Bengali to a Spaniard to a Swede.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (/EuRN)

251 A couple of California fires were lit by arsonists but yeah almost all of them are the result of poor management or actual incompetence by government.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (KZzsI)

252 Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2022 11:35 AM (oHd/0)

Five'll get you ten that was posted from memory.

Posted by: US Forest Service at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (cTCuP)

253 Could somebody put me some f-ing knowledge. What's a Indo-Hispano?

Mestizo.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (R6ndO)

254 $30 dollars. Same as in town.

Inflation.

"For Ukraine...." *raises glass*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (ELbmp)

255 Indo-Hispano must be a new term for Mestizo?

so basically indigenous person from Mexico or Central/South America

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 31, 2022 11:41 AM (w0NJk)

256 247 Saw Tip Gun this weekend.
Can't wait for the first "Bob" memes to show up.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (anj39)
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Posted by: WisRich at May 31, 2022 11:41 AM (G0vdT)

257 and why not ?
sabotage has always been a commie tool, and they have been ramping up every angle of attack fo a decade+ now.

also see fires removing food processing plants, real end-game mass-effect sabotage on the grand scale.

also see ... well, just look anywhere; none of this is unintentional.

Auric Goldfinger's Rule !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (P57A6)

258 Look up the Cerro Grande fire in NM. Set by the FS, and it took out over 200 homes. Nothing is new.

Posted by: Trog04 at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (wfZwW)

259 Remember that one commercial where Smokey the Bear was an arsonist?

Yeah, me neither.
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I knew something was up when they created 'Woodsey' the owl., floppy clown feet, sad little winglets, feather in his cap, 'Hoot, hoot', don't pollute'. Pic: https://tinyurl.com/247u3ha2

Smokey was a freaking gruff, bare-chested bear. There was the sense when he pointed his finger at you, that if you screwed up, he just might rip your lungs out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (kT5Bb)

260 Saw Tip Gun this weekend.
Can't wait for the first "Bob" memes to show up.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (anj39)

Do you. Feel the need? The need for speed?

Posted by: Archer at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (gmo/4)

261 "Think of how much worse these fires would have been without the US Forest Service on hand!"

Same argument used for the "vaccine" and the Wuhan Flu.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (KZzsI)

262 Around Mother's Day, they were probably at the South Toe River Biannual Reunion not too far from Mount Mitchell in NC.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:38 AM (R5lpX)

State Hwy 80? From the parkway to Mica?

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (AwYPR)

263 Shouldn't it be "Indo-Hispanic" or "Hispano-Indian"?

"Indo-Hispano-" just sounds unfinished.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2022 11:43 AM (/EuRN)

264 PSA: PSA Dagger 9mm Glock clone STILL on sale for $300 at Palmetto State Armory.

I'll have mine this week, will be testing and updating Horde with results as soon as I can.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:43 AM (XvPQV)

265 They set a fucking fire and fucked up. How can you seriously fight this bullshit when all they do is lie? There's only one thing they will listen to and it's not reason.
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:39 AM (Tlt/x)

Also need to find out if it was actual Forest Service Personnel, or Contractors. Last work crew I saw up in the Sierras, they were giving orders in Spanish.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2022 11:43 AM (oHd/0)

266 Smokey was a freaking gruff, bare-chested bear. There was the sense when he pointed his finger at you, that if you screwed up, he just might rip your lungs out.

And just how would a bear use a 9 mm? Ridiculous!

Posted by: Smokey the Bear at May 31, 2022 11:43 AM (ZsR3z)

267 Do you. Feel the need? The need for speed?
Posted by: Archer at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (gmo/4)

Yeah, man, you got done on you?

Posted by: Hunter Biden at May 31, 2022 11:43 AM (6ALXN)

268 Smokey was a freaking gruff, bare-chested bear. There was the sense when he pointed his finger at you, that if you screwed up, he just might rip your lungs out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (kT5Bb)

The type of bear that might be wearing Kevlar in the woods, I'd say.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (ELbmp)

269 Smokey was a freaking gruff, bare-chested bear. There was the sense when he pointed his finger at you, that if you screwed up, he just might rip your lungs out.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (kT5Bb)

I'd like to meet his tailor

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (XvPQV)

270 99% of all our troubles is due to people thinking they are doing good and people in charge either not knowing that it is stupid or agreeing with these stupid ideas.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:15 AM (WKPeU)

It's for our own good. (Insert appropriate CS Lewis quote here.)

Their sanctimonious righteousness offends me most of all. Every rotten thing they do is justifiable and necessary in their eyes. I'm at wit's end trying to see a peaceful way through all this. Can we talk it out with them, come to some sort of compromise? I don't know. I do know the Left won't give up power it's taken them nearly a century to attain. The next presidential election will be rigged to the point of absurdity. They've got no other choice.

Posted by: troyriser at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (ogIek)

271 Saw Tip Gun this weekend.

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I saw Tip Gun open for 4 Non Blonds at the Cow Palace in '93

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (flINI)

272 This is what happens when you send firefighters to Diversity training instead of fighting fires training.

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (YQSpA)

273 Smokey was a freaking gruff, bare-chested bear. There was the sense when he pointed his finger at you, that if you screwed up, he just might rip your lungs out.

You're not here for the camping, are you?

Posted by: Smokey The Bear at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (R6ndO)

274 Saw Tip Gun this weekend.
Can't wait for the first "Bob" memes to show up.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (anj39)
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Posted by: WisRich at May 31, 2022 11:41 AM (G0vdT)
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Damn it.
Top Gun. Stoopid spellchex.

Yes. It was fun, a bit corny, and the scenes with Val Kilmer were poignant. And Awesome music!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (anj39)

275 269 I'd like to meet his tailor
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (XvPQV)

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11 Seville Row, London.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

276 262 Around Mother's Day, they were probably at the South Toe River Biannual Reunion not too far from Mount Mitchell in NC.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:38 AM (R5lpX)

I first read that as South of Tahoe River.... and then was trying to figure out what part of North Calif Mount Mitchell was...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2022 11:45 AM (oHd/0)

277 272 This is what happens when you send firefighters to Diversity training instead of fighting fires training.
Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (YQSpA)

I sure hope there are some dudes in dresses fighting the fires.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 31, 2022 11:45 AM (eGTCV)

278 Saw Tip Gun this weekend.
Can't wait for the first "Bob" memes to show up.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (anj39)
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I heard it was good but they had to have a scene that was gay. What took the place of the volleyball game?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (4+wAL)

279 I'm really hoping there's a sufficient number of Trannies out there on the fire line or they may never get it put out.

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (YQSpA)

280 You know, I hate to be suspicious, but people employed at these jobs tending to the forest and wildlife tend to be a bit radical these days.

Could they be starting these fires on purpose? That college prof did.

Posted by: Ultra pj at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (G1dq6)

281 I sure hope there are some dudes in dresses fighting the fires.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 31, 2022 11:45 AM (eGTCV)

I hope there are several flaming homosexuals on the scene.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (ELbmp)

282 11 Seville Row, London.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

Oliver Laws is a punk. He never could have out-fought John Phillips.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (XvPQV)

283 Controlled burns are tricky, but necessary in naturally fire-adapted ecosystems.

Depp-Heard Verdict Watch: nothing yet. Stupid jurors. Don't they want to go home?

Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (qpX6U)

284 Is Woodsey Owl still around?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2022 11:26 AM

Won't be seeing him no more.

Posted by: A Windmill at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (RkC6l)

285 I sure hope there are some dudes in dresses fighting the fires.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 31, 2022 11:45 AM (eGTCV)
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It is hard to tell what anyone is wearing under the protective gear. The biggest problem is to make sure that the protective gear can accommodate pregnant men.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (5zVb8)

286 *pimp

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (XvPQV)

287 State Hwy 80? From the parkway to Mica?
Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2022 11:42 AM (AwYPR)

Not sure. It's on a gravel forest service road by the river. About twenty years ago I used to go to the Biannual Roothog Convention at the same place. The Rainbows/Mule Deers get together usually coincided with our week long party. Us rednecks vs the hippies.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (R5lpX)

288 >>>"Indo-Hispano-" just sounds unfinished.

>Sounds like a skin condition. Like a purple-nurple.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (BP3/z)

289 Apologies.

I was informed, at a very tender age, that ONLY I could stop Forest Fires.

This one slipped past me. And. I'm sorry.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 11:47 AM (CLGrc)

290 274 Saw Tip Gun this weekend.
Can't wait for the first "Bob" memes to show up.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (anj39)
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Isn't that a series on Pornhub?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 31, 2022 11:47 AM (Qhnrt)

291 11 Seville Row, London.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

That's Savile Row.

Posted by: Spellcheck at May 31, 2022 11:47 AM (cTCuP)

292 283 Depp-Heard Verdict Watch: nothing yet. Stupid jurors. Don't they want to go home?
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (qpX6U)

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The Depp-Heard verdict is going to fall on the same day as the Sussman verdict, I bet.

One will be spoken about on ABC Nightly News. No points for guessing correctly which one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:48 AM (LvTSG)

293 I always said they should have used Bambi's mother to be the face of preventing forest fires instead of Smokey the Bear.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 11:48 AM (4+wAL)

294 Malevolence or Incompetence?? Anyone's bet with the Govenment.

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (Vr12I)

295 11 Seville Row, London.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

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Rumor has it Arafat gets his suits there.

Posted by: 496 at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (VJsqe)

296 Every so often a fire is started by an under-employed firefighter.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (lKAqb)

297 I heard it was good but they had to have a scene that was gay. What took the place of the volleyball game?
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (4+wAL)

No volleyball.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (anj39)

298 11 Seville Row, London.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

I'ma so homesick!

Posted by: The Barber at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (906pl)

299 >>Controlled burns are tricky, but necessary in naturally fire-adapted ecosystems.

The Forest Service regularly loses control of them. They did it in the Bittterroot Valley back about 6 years ago. Thousands of acres and almost dozen houses lost.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (CLGrc)

300 291 11 Seville Row, London.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

That's Savile Row.
Posted by: Spellcheck at May 31, 2022 11:47 AM (cTCuP)

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I Americanized it cause I'm lazy and in defiance of the crown, but mostly in defiance of the crown.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

301 The Indeos...do they speak Austrian?

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (YQSpA)

302 World Resource Inst, May 20, 21 - in part:

Biden Administration's commitment to job creation through restoration and resilience is further emphasized in the recently announced America the Beautiful campaign, which aims to conserve 30% of U.S. lands, water and ocean by 2030.

Posted by: Lola at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (NIYa7)

303 Anyone else getting the shocking man boob advertisement?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (sI15f)

304 "The Depp-Heard verdict is going to fall on the same day as the Sussman verdict"

Holy crap, did Sussman beat up Depp too?

Damn fine Depp movie: Black Mass.

Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (qpX6U)

305 223 exdem13-

I had that same book.
And as a twelve-year old Girl Scout (Old School), I could tell when a fire was out.
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I could tell too, and I wasn't even in Scouts. My dad had been one though. He knew when a fire was out-out, and he was (and still is) careful about doing outside fires of any kind. Like I said, so much for the state of public education, both in and out of school.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 11:50 AM (W+kMI)

306 >>Every so often a fire is started by an under-employed firefighter.

About 100x a year.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 11:50 AM (CLGrc)

307 Calf Canyon fire is less than a hundred miles from our mountain place. We saw smoke from there in our valleys throughout late Apr and early May. Here is the latest incident update report and map from InciWeb, with latest details. It's a good site for wildfire information.

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/8069/

Posted by: Muldoon at May 31, 2022 11:50 AM (cPDW+)

308 I Americanized it cause I'm lazy and in defiance of the crown, but mostly in defiance of the crown.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

On that basis, I'll allow it.

Posted by: Spellcheck at May 31, 2022 11:50 AM (cTCuP)

309 304 Damn fine Depp movie: Black Mass.
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (qpX6U)

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Nah. That movie is dumb.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

310 The real fun was in the showers after the volleyball game.

Posted by: Ice Man at May 31, 2022 11:51 AM (lKAqb)

311 283 Depp-Heard Verdict Watch: nothing yet. Stupid jurors. Don't they want to go home?
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (qpX6U)

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The Depp-Heard verdict is going to fall on the same day as the Sussman verdict, I bet.

One will be spoken about on ABC Nightly News. No points for guessing correctly which one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:48 AM (LvTSG)

The Heard-Depp, Sussman and Dobbs verdicts will all be handed down simultaneously to achieve maximum outrage.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at May 31, 2022 11:51 AM (6ALXN)

312 That Savile guy was Big Pedo. It was kept secret until after his death.

Cawthorn isn't all wrong.

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (YQSpA)

313
When it comes to "controlled" burns, I guess the phrase "best and brightest" has a whole different meaning to U S Forest Service lackwits.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (pNxlR)

314 Desocks

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (6ALXN)

315 Look, mistakes were made. Sure, some may have pooped in hallways of their own office. Sure, some people might have polluted a river with lethal poisons. Sure, its possible that fires were caused by some people. But at this point, what difference does it make? We need to MoveOn.org from these events, the future doom of global war... climate cha... climate castastrophe is too important to be distracted by such minor events.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (KZzsI)

316 They don't want ALL humans to die. Just a few billion. Like... 5.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (f8jdA)

317 >>> 222 Called air conditioning/heating and an water system.
Posted by: jim
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Which are getting more expensive by the day, judging by the bills I just paid.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2022 11:36 AM (bvH+0)

*waves two fingers trying to look cool, and failing*

There's no inflation!

Posted by: DHS Disinformation Governance Board at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (llON8)

318 308 I Americanized it cause I'm lazy and in defiance of the crown, but mostly in defiance of the crown.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

On that basis, I'll allow it.
Posted by: Spellcheck at May 31, 2022 11:50 AM (cTCuP)

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"He knows how to defend a hopeless position. Raise him to corporal."
-Wellington

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (LvTSG)

319 "The Forest Service regularly loses control of them. They did it in the Bittterroot Valley back about 6 years ago. Thousands of acres and almost dozen houses lost."

I had a week training course thru Nature Conservancy. I've worked on several prairie burns, and things can go bad very quickly. Just the sun coming out from cloud cover will make the flames leap higher at once. Forests present their own kinds of problems. Tricky, but needed.

Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (qpX6U)

320 316 They don't want ALL humans to die. Just a few billion. Like... 5.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (f8jdA)

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*schedules reception of major humanitarian award*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (LvTSG)

321 Depp-Heard Verdict Watch: nothing yet. Stupid jurors. Don't they want to go home?
Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 11:46 AM (qpX6U)

I feel sorry for the jury. Both of the parties are utterly disgusting and I could listen to no more than 15 minutes of testimony. Choosing the lesser of two fails is no easy task.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (sI15f)

322 The Depp-Heard verdict is going to fall on the same day as the Sussman verdict, I bet.

One will be spoken about on ABC Nightly News. No points for guessing correctly which one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:48 AM (LvTSG)

I'd say who gives a crap, but we already know that Amber does.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (N39Ws)

323 Please forgive my ignorance, but wth are the "Rainbow People"? Is this some bunch of idiots who were converted by the sprinkler rainbow?

Posted by: creeper at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (cTCuP)

324 I actually took a course in controlled burns from my state. Weather is paramount in deciding whether to do a burn or not. Low humidity is an absolute deal breaker.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (QSjkU)

325 I always said they should have used Bambi's mother to be the face of preventing forest fires instead of Smokey the Bear.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 31, 2022

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True.

The story I've heard about the Smokey PSA campaign was that a bear cub was rescued from a forest fire in NM in something like 1940. He was named, and became the inspiration for, Smokey the Bear.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (txdEq)

326 Another way of looking at current events is that everything is an Op as far as government is concerned. Simplifies matters.

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (Vr12I)

327 A high school friend of mine is a professor of environmental science at a prominent university. (You'd recognize the school name immediately.) I asked him what he thought the effect of global warming would be. He said, "In 50 years we might need to change our sunscreen from SPF 15 to SPF 20."

I asked him if this is what he taught in his classes. "Oh no--I'd get fired."

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (sWM8x)

328 >>I had a week training course thru Nature Conservancy. I've worked on several prairie burns, and things can go bad very quickly. Just the sun coming out from cloud cover will make the flames leap higher at once. Forests present their own kinds of problems. Tricky, but needed.

Funny. But...Plum Creek has never burned down any of their holdings.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 11:54 AM (CLGrc)

329 Calf Canyon fire is less than a hundred miles from our mountain place. We saw smoke from there in our valleys throughout late Apr and early May. Here is the latest incident update report and map from InciWeb, with latest details. It's a good site for wildfire information.

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/8069/
Posted by: Muldoon at May 31, 2022 11:50 AM (cPDW+)
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Thanxs!
I'm sending this to Daughter of Diogenes #2 who is travelling throughout the region for the next few months.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:54 AM (anj39)

330 I am starting to suspect that wildfires out west are like vandalism “hate crimes” on campus, and that until proven otherwise, I should assume any such occurrence is a false-flag event ignited by left-wing activists. Or by incompetent government agencies.

Safe bet.

Posted by: Emmie at May 31, 2022 11:54 AM (6RgRK)

331 I blame Al Gore.

He glommed onto Globull Warmering as a way to make money and rape and the grifters from all walks of life followed suit.

Also, abolish the US Forest Service.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2022 11:54 AM (VghRo)

332 The US Forest Service Started the New Mexico Fires Which Were Blamed on Climate Change

Nothing new. Remember the national fires in Australia a few (?) years ago. They blamed that on "climate change", but it was actually caused by radical "climate change" activist policies.

The environazis have been doing this shit for decades as radical activists. And now they are in control of every institution in the world.

Same bullshit with the Left for every issue. No racism exists anymore so they perpetuate fake race crimes and cry "racism!". No sexism exists anymore, so the feminazis lie about issues (i.e. "unequal pay") and cry "sexism!". No anthropogenic global warming exists so they cause crises and blame it on "climate change". Enforcing laws stops the illegal alien problem so they stop enforcing laws and then cry "we need comprehensive immigration reform!"

Same playbook they've used for decades on every issue.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 31, 2022 11:55 AM (Do5/p)

333 Climate change once bit my sister.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 31, 2022 11:55 AM (nByzo)

334 Please forgive my ignorance, but wth are the "Rainbow People"? Is this some bunch of idiots who were converted by the sprinkler rainbow?
Posted by: creeper at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (cTCuP)

Diehard Harry Potter fans.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:55 AM (6ALXN)

335 The story I've heard about the Smokey PSA campaign was that a bear cub was rescued from a forest fire in NM in something like 1940. He was named, and became the inspiration for, Smokey the Bear.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (txdEq)

That sounds an awful lot like one of those Disney movies I used to watch as a yoot on Sunday evenings.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 31, 2022 11:55 AM (906pl)

336 "Both of the parties are utterly disgusting"

They'll remarry. Five years tops.

Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 11:55 AM (qpX6U)

337 >>Please forgive my ignorance, but wth are the "Rainbow People"?

The dirtiest, dumbest hippies all egt together on Public Lands each year to litter, and destroy habitat.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 11:55 AM (CLGrc)

338 Look, mistakes were made. Sure, some may have pooped in hallways of their own office.

_____________________

Damn ! I forgot about that story.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 31, 2022 11:56 AM (M+Lyo)

339 Like I said, the Forest Service has turned Wildfires into an Industry.

They require 2-3 BIG fires a year to keep the money rolling in and getting distributed.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 11:56 AM (CLGrc)

340 157 The riots of 2020 were government controlled burns.

Underrated comment.

Those burns were indeed a firebreak against fair elections and the rule of law.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 31, 2022 11:56 AM (2OL6m)

341 I actually took a course in controlled burns from my state. Weather is paramount in deciding whether to do a burn or not. Low humidity is an absolute deal breaker.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (QSjkU)

Washington State University use to offer a course on forest fires, how they start, how they move, the science of it all. It was a bitchin' course. Hard as hell.
My friend got a C-.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:56 AM (anj39)

342 I should assume any such occurrence is a false-flag event ignited by left-wing activists. Or by incompetent government agencies.

I expect this to be a very active front in this war, this summer. Warning to Antifa types: I am only one of many who live in the woods who will not hesitate to use deadly force when you are Larping as George Washington Heyduke.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (BMrzh)

343 I'd like to know what percentage of "Controlled Burns" were ever under control. 1%? Foolishness.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (BP3/z)

344 Back in the 1930's they used to set the Ohio River on fire.

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (YQSpA)

345 Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 11:52 AM (qpX6U)

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I read somewhere years ago (or maybe saw it in a movie) about a group out in the savannah or on a prairie somewhere who saw a wildfire raging in the distance, but coming closer. Someone in the party immediately lit a fire right next to them. It burned all the fuel around them and saved them from the raging fire.

No idea if this was a true story, but it seems wise and the concept always stuck with me.

Posted by: 496 at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (VJsqe)

346 Nah. That movie is dumb.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

We agree on movies so rarely that it's worth noting when we do. It was eminently forgettable anyway. Given the subject matter it could have been sooooo much better. I could have turned it off at any point. Also it was a bait and switch since it wasn't even about Whitey.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (l+lsS)

347 I'm your commander in chief

Posted by: Whisperin' Joe at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (63Dwl)

348 @ creeper

The Rainbow Family of Living Light is a counter-culture, in existence since approximately 1970. It is a loose affiliation of individuals, some nomadic, generally asserting that it has no leader. They put on yearly, primitive camping events on public land known as Rainbow Gatherings. Wikipedia

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (R5lpX)

349 We saw Top Gun last night. I never saw the first one...I know sacrilege. I really enjoyed it. Dead-beat dad Tom Cruise did not disgust me as he normally does.

Made me cry simply watching the older guys passing the torch. Seeing Val Kilmer in such a state was a bit overwhelming. He will always be Doc Holliday to me.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (sI15f)

350 Washington State University use to offer a course on forest fires, how they start, how they move, the science of it all. It was a bitchin' course. Hard as hell.
My friend got a C-.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:56 AM (anj39)

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The final exam was LIT.

Posted by: 496 at May 31, 2022 11:58 AM (VJsqe)

351 Today we celebrate the birthday of Clint Eastwood and Joe Namath, two Icons of the Seventies.

*insert 1975 tagline here*

Posted by: kallisto at May 31, 2022 11:58 AM (DJFLF)

352 Well doing a heck of a smashing job there Forest Service. Going to burn down Yosemite next?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2022 11:58 AM (koBuh)

353 ||An unusual spread of monkeypox does not mean people should shun LGBTQ+ pride parades this summer, a World Health Organization expert said on Monday, adding that it was important to show support.||

Just like BLM marches/riots don't spread the Covid!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 31, 2022 11:58 AM (yikp0)

354 Fires & clear-cutting have similar effects on forest management.

Except we get usable material from the latter.

Posted by: aelfheld at May 31, 2022 11:58 AM (Zy9Yy)

355
'Tip Gun' starring Tom Crooze as Maver-dick

Posted by: Sphynx at May 31, 2022 11:58 AM (rXie1)

356 The story I've heard about the Smokey PSA campaign was that a bear cub was rescued from a forest fire in NM in something like 1940. He was named, and became the inspiration for, Smokey the Bear.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 31, 2022
*
That sounds an awful lot like one of those Disney movies I used to watch as a yoot on Sunday evenings.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 31, 2022

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It does. At the radio station where I then worked, I remember playing a PSA which explained the history of the campaign, in about 1990 -- the 50th anniversary, I think. Maybe it was that the cub was rescued; somebody at the ad agency heard about it, and built a campaign around it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 31, 2022 11:59 AM (txdEq)

357 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 31, 2022 11:59 AM (Zz0t1)

358 I AM SCIENCE!
BWAHhah

Posted by: Fauci at May 31, 2022 11:59 AM (YQSpA)

359 Saw Tip Gun this weekend.
Can't wait for the first "Bob" memes to show up.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM (anj39)
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Just the tip Mav.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2022 11:59 AM (WKPeU)

360 OT: Is Gateway Pundit becoming more legitimate? I gave up on it because it was so click-baity and sensationalist.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 31, 2022 11:59 AM (jYQlA)

361 346 We agree on movies so rarely that it's worth noting when we do. It was eminently forgettable anyway. Given the subject matter it could have been sooooo much better. I could have turned it off at any point. Also it was a bait and switch since it wasn't even about Whitey.
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (l+lsS)

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It's one of those movies that covers years in two hours, and nothing is covered all that well. The centerpiece is Depp's performance, and it ends up so mannered that he ceases to be a character and becomes a caricature. I didn't buy it. The director, Scott Cooper, is something of a hack, I think. His style is arthouse friendly, which gives him automatic cred with certain critics, but his movies consistently disappoint.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 11:59 AM (LvTSG)

362 Please forgive my ignorance, but wth are the "Rainbow People"? Is this some bunch of idiots who were converted by the sprinkler rainbow?
Posted by: creeper at May 31, 2022 11:53 AM (cTCuP)

Diehard Harry Potter fans.
Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 11:55 AM (6ALXN)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Family

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2022 11:59 AM (AwYPR)

363 348 @ creeper

The Rainbow Family of Living Light is a counter-culture, in existence since approximately 1970. It is a loose affiliation of individuals, some nomadic, generally asserting that it has no leader. They put on yearly, primitive camping events on public land known as Rainbow Gatherings. Wikipedia
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (R5lpX)

Oh.

It's getting hard to keep up.

Posted by: creeper at May 31, 2022 11:59 AM (cTCuP)

364 Climate Change is just added to the list of ruses played on the public by our "intellectual betters" that is designed to make the rich richer and the poor fucking destitute and dependent on their rich asses.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 31, 2022 12:00 PM (Zz0t1)

365 You are the carbon we want to eliminate.

Posted by: ESG Activists at May 31, 2022 12:00 PM (+Xs9b)

366 344 Back in the 1930's they used to set the Ohio River on fire.
Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (YQSpA

No, no, no. That's from fracking. Get your story straight.

/cuckoo amateur climatologist

Posted by: Emmie at May 31, 2022 12:00 PM (6RgRK)

367 Actually while in USAF in Colorado went for 24 straight hours to fight a forest fire south of Denver. Quite a experience that won forget.
Still can see a tree line hit flash point all at once.

Posted by: Skip's phone at May 31, 2022 12:00 PM (z5JGB)

368 342
Sounds like a shovel-ready job.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 31, 2022 12:00 PM (2OL6m)

369 283 Depp-Heard Verdict Watch: nothing yet. Stupid jurors. Don't they want to go home?
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The Depp/Heard jurors have to answer 42 juror questions on the verdict form, so it's probably going to take a while to get a verdict.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 31, 2022 12:00 PM (MvHI3)

370 I was disappointed to learn that the 9mm was more powerful than my .357 Magnum. Not only that but Clint will have to change the opening scene in Dirty Harry. "This is a 9mm automatic, it will blow your lungs clear off, do you feel lucky punk?"

Posted by: vic at May 31, 2022 12:00 PM (mZwKe)

371 " I gave up on it because it was so click-baity and sensationalist."

The last 22 years of the USA have been click-baity and sensationalist.

Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (qpX6U)

372 less wood for those fucking righties to burn in their damn woodburning stoves

Posted by: Karen at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (us2H3)

373 I did a controlled burn on my neighbor's backyard archery range when I was young with a bottle rocket.

I also had to rebuilt a large portion of their fence.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (BP3/z)

374 Sussman found not guilty

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (us2H3)

375 Remember, only you can prevent forest fires!

Posted by: Smokey the Bear at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (a3Q+t)

376 Really should bestir myself to go see Top Gun: Maverick today. Support a movie with lots of planes and infuriate Leftists everywhere. Think that's called winning.

Making progress of the Hasegawa 1/48 A-4E to build Black 55 from the original Top Gun.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (koBuh)

377 All forests need to be placed on huge spaceships and put into deep space. Running Silent to preserve them from fire.

Posted by: Archer at May 31, 2022 12:02 PM (gmo/4)

378 Thanxs!
I'm sending this to Daughter of Diogenes #2 who is travelling throughout the region for the next few months.
Posted by: Diogenes

******

Good for her. Have her bring some rain with her.

It's a handy site to have bookmarked. My pleasure to share it.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 31, 2022 12:02 PM (cPDW+)

379 The fines here in the Bluegrass for burning pretty much anything when there's a ban are hefty. Burning brush/trash is pretty common, even in the summer when it's dry, but the county will and does ban any type of burning when conditions (humidity and/or winds) are unacceptable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2022 12:02 PM (BFigT)

380 374 Sussman found not guilty
Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (us2H3)

But of course.

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 12:02 PM (Vr12I)

381 DC jury finds Sussmann not guilty

Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2022 12:02 PM (Ce5xK)

382 374 Sussman found not guilty
Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (us2H3)

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I expected a hung jury. Disappointed, but not really surprised.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 12:02 PM (LvTSG)

383 372 less wood for those fucking righties to burn in their damn woodburning stoves
Posted by: Karen at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (us2H3)

Woodburning is green, unlike nuclear!
-Greens

Posted by: Someguy's at May 31, 2022 12:02 PM (dOlhY)

384 >>Sussman found not guilty

DC should not be allowed to field a Jury Pool.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2022 12:02 PM (CLGrc)

385 You just knew this partisan jury was going to find Sussman Not Guilty.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 31, 2022 12:02 PM (NpAcC)

386 The Rainbow Family of Living Light is a counter-culture, in existence since approximately 1970. It is a loose affiliation of individuals, some nomadic, generally asserting that it has no leader. They put on yearly, primitive camping events on public land known as Rainbow Gatherings. Wikipedia
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (R5lpX)
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If they have no leader, who coordinates their gatherings? How do they pick a site and communicate it out to their nomadic horde?

Something smells like "leadership" to me.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (5zVb8)

387 And note how everything and I mean everything out of the mouth of Democrats (see New Mexico governor) is mindfuck marketing bullshit. She can't just say we think we may have fucked up and we're investigating.

No their fuckup (if it wasn't Intentional) has gotta be a lesson in how *you* need to OCD sort your trash and stop driving.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (l+lsS)

388 The Depp/Heard jurors have to answer 42 juror questions on the verdict form, so it's probably going to take a while to get a verdict.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 31, 2022 12:00 PM (MvHI3)

Question #1: Would you stick your dick into crazy? Y/N

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (yYouH)

389 Fires & clear-cutting have similar effects on forest management.

Except we get usable material from the latter.
Posted by: aelfheld

Selective logging is a better analogy for the proper role of fire. The shape of much of our forests result in fires acting like clear cutting which is not the ideal way to manage a forest.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (BMrzh)

390 DC/Bartertown - discuss.

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (Vr12I)

391 All forests need to be placed on huge spaceships and put into deep space. Running Silent to preserve them from fire.

You mean Silent Running with Bruce Dern. Run Silent, Run Deep was a WWII submarine movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (koBuh)

392 352 Well doing a heck of a smashing job there Forest Service. Going to burn down Yosemite next?
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At this point Anna I'm expecting someone to torch Yellowstone before August.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (W+kMI)

393 Saw Erotic Winds and Skydancer on stage back in 92. I'll never forget it.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (buTO7)

394 Democrat Jury: ___

Use all the cuss words you want, every single one of them applies.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (QzJWU)

395 Jury finds Sussman Not Guilty!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (jTmQV)

396 366 344 Back in the 1930's they used to set the Ohio River on fire.
Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (YQSpA

Back in the '60's, it was the Cuyahoga. And IIRC, it spontaneously combusted.

Posted by: creeper at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (cTCuP)

397 Sussman found not guilty
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My stars and garters, that one's really shocked me.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (l+lsS)

398 I think its a heresy here but I really did not like the first Top Gun very much. It was kind of cheesy and at points awkward, and was really a worn out kind of plot. I don't really want to see the new one, and honestly "its not super woke" isn't a huge selling point to me. That should be the default not the selling point.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (KZzsI)

399 The main reason to do controlled burns is to remove underbrush and fuels in order to prevent major forest fires. They also improve wildlife habitat. In my state, for a reasonable fee, the state will do the burn of your property for you, and include all required equipment. It is a good deal. Controlled burns are good. I believe in them. Someone really fucked up in New Mexico.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (QSjkU)

400 Breaking on Fox -

"Verdict: Sussman Found Not guilty"

That's 95% Democrat D.C. juries for you.
Durham should appeal and ask for change of venue.

Posted by: NewsFlash at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (6ydKt)

401 An online poll about handgun ownership in Canada by the Liberal Party's leftist mouthpiece, the Toronto Star, that you might want to vote in.

https://tinyurl.com/u5pue9k4

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (yikp0)

402 The biggest problem is to make sure that the protective gear can accommodate pregnant men.

But how will they chest feed?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (Xrfse)

403
Sussman found not guilty

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM

this is my shocked face

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (ENBF0)

404 Sussman found not guilty
Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (us2H3)
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Conviction was impossible, but I thought a hung jury was distantly possible. Can't say I'm surprised, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (5zVb8)

405 Jury finds Sussman Not Guilty!
Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (jTmQV)

No justice, no peace

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (M+Lyo)

406 Someone in the party immediately lit a fire right next to them. It burned all the fuel around them and saved them from the raging fire.

No idea if this was a true story, but it seems wise and the concept always stuck with me.
Posted by: 496 at May 31, 2022 11:57 AM (VJsqe)

Called a fire break iirc.

Posted by: Someguy's at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (dOlhY)

407 The forest service is good at setting fires in Colorado. Long history.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable, now with ultra maga at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (0OmEj)

408 "The Depp/Heard jurors have to answer 42 juror questions on the verdict form"

Now I know they want to go home. Ugh.

Posted by: At No Time Was John Weaver In The Physical Presence Of gp at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (qpX6U)

409 Nood

Posted by: Thanatopsis at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (1mF7N)

410 Can't wait for the first "Bob" memes to show up.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2022 11:40 AM

Been here for some time.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (a3Q+t)

411 Sussman found not guilty
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# two weeks baby

Posted by: Womp Womp at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (3jC+w)

412 new thread up, and it's a shocka!

Posted by: kallisto at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (DJFLF)

413 384
If I had political representatives, they would be against DC juries.

Democrats exonerating democrats. Yeah. That's justice for everyone to see.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (2OL6m)

414 Durham still gets paid though, right?

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (l+lsS)

415 In 1933, the Ellery Queen cousins set one of their novels about Ellery the detective in the middle of a forest fire. Ellery and his father the Inspector are on vacation in the mountains in upstate NY when they are caught by a fire and have to take refuge at the home of a doctor/scientist atop the mountain. He's murdered, and the twists and turns of plot take place amid the steadily encroaching fire as it works its way up toward them. An adroit switch on the old "people isolated by a snowstorm" trope -- with extra suspense built in.

This is The Siamese Twin Mystery, and yes, there are Siamese twins in it!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (txdEq)

416 Can you appeal a not guilty verdict?

Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (Vr12I)

417 The Depp/Heard jurors have to answer 42 juror questions on the verdict form, so it's probably going to take a while to get a verdict.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 31, 2022 12:00 PM (MvHI3)
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42 Questions? Yowza.

Posted by: WisRich at May 31, 2022 12:05 PM (G0vdT)

418 398 I think its a heresy here but I really did not like the first Top Gun very much. It was kind of cheesy and at points awkward, and was really a worn out kind of plot. I don't really want to see the new one, and honestly "its not super woke" isn't a huge selling point to me. That should be the default not the selling point.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2022 12:03 PM (KZzsI)

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Top Gun is two movies in one. The first is awesome. The second is awful. I've yet to find a real fan of Top Gun who really disagrees with me that the romantic half is garbage. They just ignore it.

That being said, all I've heard of Maverick is that it's really good, and I like the director a lot. I tried to get Dolley to go this weekend, but she refused outright because she just didn't want to go to a movie. We went to a BBQ restaurant instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 12:05 PM (LvTSG)

419 Sussman found not guilty

This is my shocked face

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2022 12:05 PM (KZzsI)

420 The Number 2 at US Forest Service is a degreed and experienced JOURNALIST.

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 12:05 PM (YQSpA)

421 I prefer the clean burning wood stoves to the annual mismanaged forest fire smoke that we seem to get every summer.

Posted by: Rex B at May 31, 2022 12:05 PM (3HI6Z)

422 "its not super woke" isn't a huge selling point to me. That should be the default not the selling point.

Those days are long gone.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2022 12:05 PM (Xrfse)

423 400 That's 95% Democrat D.C. juries for you.
Durham should appeal and ask for change of venue.
Posted by: NewsFlash at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (6ydKt)

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You can't appeal acquittals. It's one of the bedrocks of American jurisprudence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 31, 2022 12:05 PM (LvTSG)

424 >>> 374 Sussman found not guilty
Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2022 12:01 PM (us2H3)

Thousands of shocked faces unavailable

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2022 12:06 PM (llON8)

425 Now remember what rainbow people are
When looked into it years ago was thought it's crap.

Posted by: Skip's phone at May 31, 2022 12:06 PM (z5JGB)

426 He lied and justice died.

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 12:06 PM (YQSpA)

427 416 Can you appeal a not guilty verdict?
Posted by: kraken at May 31, 2022 12:04 PM (Vr12I)

No.

Posted by: Someguy's at May 31, 2022 12:07 PM (dOlhY)

428 376 Really should bestir myself to go see Top Gun: Maverick today. Support a movie with lots of planes and infuriate Leftists everywhere. Think that's called winning.

Making progress of the Hasegawa 1/48 A-4E to build Black 55 from the original Top Gun.
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I've heard some good things about the movie. I may see it this weekend. I'm impressed you are doing poor old bullied Black 55. Thought you would do an Aggressor "MiG" F-5.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 31, 2022 12:07 PM (W+kMI)

429 So when do we start burning looting and murdering since we didn't get our way?

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 12:08 PM (YQSpA)

430 All this is accelerating.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2022 12:08 PM (Mf7Vh)

431 Rainbow family has ties to Earth First.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 31, 2022 12:08 PM (BMrzh)

432 I knew you can't convict a Democrat in a Democrat city.
800 people in the Washington Gulag are fked

Posted by: Skip's phone at May 31, 2022 12:08 PM (z5JGB)

433 Fire is racist, yo.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at May 31, 2022 12:09 PM (X8XYH)

434 The Susssman trial is just another example of how broken this country is. Not surprised at the verdict.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 31, 2022 12:10 PM (Qhnrt)

435 I knew you can't convict a Democrat in a Democrat city.
800 people in the Washington Gulag are fked
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Trump never had a chance. We never had a chance.

Posted by: Q was an op at May 31, 2022 12:10 PM (CRelX)

436 Really should bestir myself to go see Top Gun: Maverick today. Support a movie with lots of planes and infuriate Leftists everywhere. Think that's called winning.

By all accounts it's zero woke and banned in China for being too pro-US-military. That sounds great to me.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2022 12:10 PM (ZGrMX)

437 355 'Tip Gun' starring Tom Crooze as Maver-dick

just-in bieber as bob?

Posted by: kulak anachronda at May 31, 2022 12:11 PM (sGtp+)

438
Govt, is there anything it can't f up?

Forest service is there to start forest fires.
EPA is there to contaminate air and rivers.
CDC is there to spread disease.
FDA is there to promote non-effective and dangerous drugs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2022 12:11 PM (8GBH4)

439 Really should bestir myself to go see Top Gun: Maverick today. Support a movie with lots of planes and infuriate Leftists everywhere. Think that's called winning.
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Highway to the danger zone?

Posted by: cheesy at May 31, 2022 12:12 PM (CRelX)

440 436 By all accounts it's zero woke and banned in China for being too pro-US-military.

and for having the flag of taiwan on his jacket. but mostly for having the flag of taiwan on his jacket.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at May 31, 2022 12:12 PM (sGtp+)

441 429 So when do we start burning looting and murdering since we didn't get our way?
Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2022 12:08 PM (YQSpA)

? We were supposed to wait?

Oops.

Posted by: Warai-otoko, holding a loot sack and a burning torch at May 31, 2022 12:13 PM (/EuRN)

442 and for having the flag of taiwan on his jacket. but mostly for having the flag of taiwan on his jacket.

The sequence of events isn't quite that. They added the flags back (Japan also) after Tencent pulled funding on CCP orders to not glorify the US Navy. A nice middle finger.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2022 12:15 PM (ZGrMX)

443 Sharkman, there actually used to be fuels crews that did exactly what you suggested. But over the years, funding has reversed its flow from the field to the office. Even our very own Tom McClintock got in his dig at the boots on the ground, and he should know better! Today, you get your beat up fire crews that have worked 1200 hours of overtime in 6 months and try to squeeze in some projects between fire seasons. Not a recipe for good management.

Posted by: Inisfree at May 31, 2022 12:28 PM (3g6r+)

444 I don’t like to be vindictive, but we need to consider setting up a searchable list of these guys. There may come a day of Earthly Judgement, and I’d like it to focus on the weasels who need to at least be expelled from our country.

Posted by: Linda Fox at May 31, 2022 12:44 PM (G6b2l)

445 The agency has been using 'Climate Change' for quite a while as the strawman to absolve themselves of any wrong-doing or general ineptitude. That's the feature, not a Bug.

Posted by: DBCooper at May 31, 2022 12:45 PM (3oMnW)

446 The Ruidoso NM fire a decade or more back was also caused by the USFS "controlled" burning, and almost burned the entire town. People died. Try to find it in a search, though. Oh right, that was before the default cause was determined to always be climate change.

Posted by: Born Free at May 31, 2022 01:10 PM (N3ztU)

447 I was in Santa Fe a few weeks ago. The locals told us that the local weather people urged them not to burn, as they were predicting high winds for that week.

I was also told the locals were overruled by the feds, who did not agree with the local weather people and started the fires anyway.

Posted by: nocargocults at May 31, 2022 02:43 PM (yjmBH)

448 Lets put the Eco-Freaks on the Fires starting with Julia(Butterfly)Hill and her freaky friends

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 31, 2022 06:11 PM (wGqjj)

449 Climate always changes.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 31, 2022 08:09 PM (CdZ4i)

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