Gun Thread: Dark Range Edition

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Welp, it hasn't been the greatest week here at the ol' blog. Late last year we lost Tami, and this week learned of the passing of our pals Oregon Muse and redc1c4. These were three people I had never met in person, yet each one was important to me. This blog and the community it has inspired is very special. It offers a refuge from a world gone mad, and provides just a little bit of stability in our otherwise chaotic and uncertain daily lives. Make no mistake, the friendships we develop here are just as tangible as those in the more traditional 'real' world. The holes left by individuals such as these will never go away, but with time, do become a little bit easier to navigate around. Raise your glass to those we have lost, and appreciate those you have while you have them.

With that, let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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Happy Birthday!

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Today is John Moses Browning's 167th birthday. And he doesn't look a day over 29!

And speaking of Browning...

Boy howdy did I ever get an amazing response from my lame-o pictures of the 1911 taken in a lightbox last week, both in the comments and later by email. Thank you all very much! In case you missed it, here's one of the pictures I asked for help with.

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terrible, terrible picture

So the overwhelming consensus was the stark white background was freaking out the camera's light sensor and underexposing the gun portion of the image. I think I have that right. Anyhoo, the lightbox came with a few other backgrounds (black, gray and green) so I tried a couple of them out.

Here's gray:

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Here's green:

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Well will you looky right there! It worked! Oh sweet baby Jesus it worked!!! A bigly Gun Thread Thank You to all of you photographers with big brains who identified the problemo. I really appreciate it!

Now two questions; a) which background do you like better, and 2) is the color spelt grey or grAy?

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First up, our pal Scuba_Dude heads to the range with a purpose!

After so many months since I last fired a shot when I was at the TXMoMe, I decided to dust of the Sig case and head to the indoor range close to me.

When I got there I decided I wanted to start checking out potential conceal carry firearms. I plan on checking a new one out every time I go to the range. The first one up was a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield in 9mm. I found the gun fit nicely in my right hand but when I would then put my left hand into position my thumb came close to getting into the trigger well. Something to be conscious of in the future. The trigger was decent but the reset just was not as crisp as my Sig. A couple times I thought I had reset the trigger when I had not. and I think that led to one of the rounds being struck but it did not fire. You could see the dimple left by the firing pin on the primer but the round did not go off. I showed it to one of the RSO's who took the round and put it in his gun where it did fire after he pulled the trigger. Strange. I also had problems manipulating the slide lock but I will put that down to me.

So my drill was this. Put target at 7 yards and took 14 shots (2 mags) at the center of the target. Then 7 shots one handed in my dominant hand at the head of the target. 7 shots one handed in my weak hand just to the right of the center of the target. Then 7 shots normal stance just above center of target.

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I then folded the target and shot at the small circle targets at the bottom. I numbered where each shot had hit. Total of 49 shots at the target.

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Next I took out my Sig Sauer P226 Legion RX1 in 9mm and proceeded to do the exact same drill at 7 yards. Only difference was I only took 10 shots (1 mag) for my 1st shots on the target. Then folded the target and shot at the small targets as fast as the range would permit. Left to right on top then left to right on bottom. 10 shots.

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I then put my last target at 10 yards and repeated the same drill as above. Just that I shot 30 rounds at the small circle targets when I folded the target.

I think I did Ok, had a really bad flyer with the Sig weak hand at 7 yards, That hit near the bottom of the target (I circled it) but I think I did a little better when I was shooting at 10 yards.

Nice shooting and great report, amigo. Thanks for sending it in!

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More Flintlocks
Recently we featured a couple of flintlock shooting videos which always draws considerable interest. Here's a (hour long) video on how they made them in the olden days.

If you're ever in Virginia, I'd encourage you to visit Colonial Williamsburg! If you are a fan of American colonial history, it's a must-see.

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More NRA Shenanigans?
More accurately, more Wayne LaPierre shenanigans? If this is true, it pisses me off, and I am beginning to really, really, really not understand how LaPierre hasn't been kicked to the curb.

Anyone heard of the Guns & Gadgets guy? Is he legit? Are you hearing the same reports, and this story in particular?

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Full-Auto 1911
A while back we looked at a fully automatic 1911. Our pal Blasternaz later spoke up saying he knew the guy featured in the video, Bob Ferris, and had actually fired the very weapon! Here are a couple more videos on the gun.

Thanks for the follow-up, Blasternaz!

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Some time ago, we had a discussion on what to do after a self-defense shooting, and though there was a general consensus on the big items, opinions varied on some of the finer details. I ran across a couple of videos from the Armed Attorneys which might be worth your time. I think part of being a prepared individual is running through scenarios like this in your mind and mentally rehearsing the key steps you would take so you're not making it up as the smoke clears.

What do you all think? Agree? Disagree?

Also, "you people" seem to be all the time losing your shit in canoes. 'Sup with that? Here's what they suggest if it happens to you.

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Our pal Jer covers things not to do with some classics.

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Cigar of the Week

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I can't recall if I have featured these before, and if so, they're worth another look. A nice strong maduro inexpensively bundled cigar from Cigars International

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Gun Basics 101
Here is the She Equips Herself girl with some tips on handgun accuracy.

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Link-O-Rama

I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop

***Mail Bag***

This week's entry is from our pal fungusboy. No, it's not that kind of shot!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 AM!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:00 PM (U2p+3)

2 Fire away!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:00 PM (mcfjc)

3 Gray boxed!

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:00 PM (A2G/3)

4 Bang!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:00 PM (a3Q+t)

5 That was supposed to be BLAMBLAMBLAM!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM (U2p+3)

6 Weasel put out that cigar

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM (2JoB8)

7 *raises glass to the departed*

Ave, atque vale !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM (9CuDT)

8 Aren't grey boxes an Ace signature move?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM (a3Q+t)

9 Hey gub threaders. Just finished our biweekly Moron Gun Club and NovaMiniMoMo.

Pew pew pew.

More to follow.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:02 PM (YXwj0)

10 Stick around Weasel. The gun thread wouldn't be the same without you. And thanks for it!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 23, 2022 07:02 PM (7bRMQ)

11 No range sadly, but more videos on making my own black powder.

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:03 PM (2JoB8)

12 That was supposed to be BLAMBLAMBLAM!
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM


So you fired prematurely. It happens to the best of us.

Besides, I interpreted it as "One I am". Kind of Seussesque.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:03 PM (a3Q+t)

13 Nurse is #1 !!

Weasel, what a difference the back ground color makes! I think gray really made the gun look good IMHO.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:03 PM (mcfjc)

14 "is the color spelt grey or grey?"
/eyeroll/

There are some electronic word games that will not accept one way or the other of spelling the word-of-which-there-are-50-shades. (Actually, technically, there are 254 shades on a computer, if you exclude full white and full black.)

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:04 PM (A2G/3)

15 https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2022/01/
aaarr-me-buckos-avast-there-on-focsle.html

Ace needs one, maybe others as well could use a AoSHq stamp

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:04 PM (2JoB8)

16 I like that the She Equips Herself gal is featured here. Gives me an excuse to watch her videos. And she is sra blaster approved.

So all is good

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:04 PM (YXwj0)

17 I think that the green helps bring out the detail on the grips say and lightens them so they show up whereas even the gray darkens the grips a bit.

Both are much better than the straight white.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 07:05 PM (eYV9L)

18 We shoot dark range for work because sometimes you have to deal with bad people after dark.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:06 PM (0OP+5)

19 Evening Weasel.
Another excellent thread. Thanxs!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 07:06 PM (axyOa)

20 Is it just me or does the blonde remind anyone of the gal from Scrubs?

Posted by: Josh Brolin at January 23, 2022 07:06 PM (dNqv+)

21 Gray, Weasel. The green makes the finish look too green. Also, as others said last week, you also need light coming in from the sides, and maybe one from the top. But, never straight on.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 23, 2022 07:07 PM (7bRMQ)

22 Green seems odd but I think it shows more detail.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 07:08 PM (Wj/z9)

23 Thank you Weasel!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 07:08 PM (mD/uy)

24 Scuba_Dude, I think you meant to write "one hand" not "off hand" on your target. If you have a dominant AND a weak "off-hand" I want to shake all three of yours.

But, not bad groupings at all. If anything, with that weapon it seems your weak hand is steadier - all left-right, compared to the head group.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:08 PM (A2G/3)

25 Weasel, the Guns n Gadgets guy is legit. Been watching him for about a year or so now. His content is pretty much 2A news.
And it sounds like this stuff is coming out of the NYS lawsuit against the NRA, so there is that. How much bad stuff leaked verses good stuff.
At this point in time I just can't trust the NRA. But that is my opinion, I could be wrong.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:09 PM (mcfjc)

26 Howdy, Weasel, and all good gub 'ettes and 'rons! Scoob, thanks for admitting to not having shot live rounds since Corsicana- same here. Also, it's 'grey'.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 23, 2022 07:09 PM (v23vE)

27 My TX LTC card finally came in and I don't know what I want to break it in with yet.

Posted by: redchief at January 23, 2022 07:10 PM (Kab4E)

28 *raises glass to absent friends*

Weasel, I actually have the Gunsmith of Williamsburg on VHS somewhere. Excellent video choice.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 23, 2022 07:10 PM (RkC6l)

29 "NRA Shenanigans"
I wonder.... Has anyone actually spent time and effort looking into the other largish 2A organizations? Or is NRA drawing ALL the fire?

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:11 PM (A2G/3)

30 Fixed some typos.

Howdy, y'all!!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:11 PM (0IeYL)

31 No range report, but the local Cabela's, and even more the local Academy, have more ammo on the shelves, including some heretofore scarce .38 Spl +P; mostly 9mm, .45 ACP, some .40 S&W and .380, and 5.56 and .308. I haven't seen anything Magnum in quite a while. Bullets are coming back, but not other components.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:12 PM (a3Q+t)

32 Concerning NRA, my American Rifleman magazine arrived yesterday for Feb. It had bold red lettering FINAL NOTICE blah blah. Upgrade by Feb 25 recieve discount and exclusive fcuking gift. My current membership goes to 2027. At my age that's a life membership. Trying to figure out my reply to Wayne, that will not include the word fcuk. No success yet.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:13 PM (0OP+5)

33 Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:13 PM (0OP+5)
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I'm a life member and mine said the same thing.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:14 PM (0IeYL)

34 Yeah. I thought so also.

Sarah Chalke is a cutey.

At 45 she's still doing it for me.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (eYV9L)

35 Nice shooting Scuba Dude!

Wayne LaPenis is just like all the rest of the grifter class...private jets, whores and tailor made suits using other people's money and that's just on weekdays. Until he is gone, I give them no money. Old bastard needs to go away already.

Jerry knows his shit. Listen to him.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (R/m4+)

36 24 Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:08 PM

I would say you are correct, I can read English and I can speak English, just do not ask me to write a grammatically correct sentence.

But it would be one handed dominant, one handed weak.

And I was surprised that I shot the M&P better one handed weak than I did one handed dominant.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (mcfjc)

37 Trying to figure out my reply to Wayne, that will not include the word fcuk. No success yet.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:13 PM


I believe the phrase "live cover" entered The Horde's lexicon this week.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (a3Q+t)

38 29 "NRA Shenanigans"
I wonder.... Has anyone actually spent time and effort looking into the other largish 2A organizations? Or is NRA drawing ALL the fire?

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:11 PM (A2G/3)
Second Amendment Foundation

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (0OP+5)

39 Weasel,
Thanks for bringing up the "Gunsmith of Williamsburg" video. I've mentioned it in past threads. My VHS copy just plain wore out. The DVD version is holding up so far. And it is available on YT. I probably watch it a few times a year to remind myself to take the time to do a good job with firearm related matters. Plus, I enjoy the David Brinkley narration.

The first time I went to Colonial Williamsburg the rifle Gussler made was still on display. It is a masterpiece. Not sure if it is still displayed.

If you get to Williamsburg prepare to spend serious time in the gunsmith shop.

Posted by: JTB at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (7EjX1)

40 I am forever grateful to this blog that I met Weasel and he is my dear friend.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (Dj+ic)

41 Trying to figure out my reply to Wayne, that will not include the word fcuk. No success yet.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:13 PM (0OP+5)

frack works.

Posted by: redchief at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (Kab4E)

42 Green is sorta faggy, Weasel. And the other spelling is g-a-y.
nttiawwt.

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (12ET2)

43 Well will you looky right there! It worked! Oh sweet baby Jesus it worked!!!

I lol'd.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (Xrfse)

44 26 Also, it's 'grey'.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 23, 2022 07:09 PM

See my response in #36 to GWB :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:17 PM (mcfjc)

45 I thought the controversy last year, or the year before with the NRA's money issues and the infighting would have set them straight. Obviously not. I'm a life member so they've already got my money, but I don't fall for their stupid "Last Chance" bullshit they affix to the magazine.

I honestly have mixed emotions every time the left gets on their NRA warpath...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 07:17 PM (BFigT)

46 42 Green is sorta faggy, Weasel. And the other spelling is g-a-y.
nttiawwt.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (12ET2)
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Kinda thought the same!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:17 PM (0IeYL)

47 Poured a wee dram of Buffalo Trace, in honor of Absent Horde.

Oh, and moar bad news. It does appear that The Arms Room, a rather nice indoor range, store and classroom facility in League City, TX, has gone kerplunkt. It occupied the space left vacant by the very last Circuit City store ever built, and the late William James had bought the building, land and lot next door, in order that the shopping center developer could not ever squeeze him out.

In that, he succeeded, but alas, his heirs seemed to have not been able to keep it going. *sigh*


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 23, 2022 07:18 PM (QzJWU)

48 RI Red, did you get my email?

Posted by: Ben Had at January 23, 2022 07:19 PM (Dj+ic)

49 Yasher koach Weasel. That means you spoke well with a strong voice, thank you.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 23, 2022 07:20 PM (EZebt)

50 Well, I was giggling.
Thanks Weasel.

My favorite part was the shower of casings after each burst. It's like a party!

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (sxkMH)

51 I quit the NRA cause I got tired of the constant dings for renewal.

I just had renewed and a month later they sent a letter telling me it was gonna be expired soon. That did it. Eff those people. Then I find out this useless dork is using the money to play around? No thanks.

I also quite GOA because (get this) they send you letters with big GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA on the envelope. Nothing like telling the world that here's where a gun owner lives. I told them to take me off their lists and why and they did do that. I don't think they changed their policy of putting their name in big letters on the envelope.

What turkeys. Don't they think?

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (eYV9L)

52 10 Stick around Weasel. The gun thread wouldn't be the same without you. And thanks for it!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 23, 2022 07:02 PM (7bRMQ)
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Thanks. You'll have to pry the GT from my cold, dead fingers!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (0IeYL)

53 slept poorly, up way too early; bedtime for this sock_rat !

g'night everyone, & thanks as always, Weasel !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 23, 2022 07:22 PM (9CuDT)

54 I join in the sentiment that until LaPierre is gone, no more beneficence from this Benefactor Member. I got enough stupid certificates.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 23, 2022 07:22 PM (dVlo/)

55 >>> 42 Green is sorta faggy, Weasel. And the other spelling is g-a-y.
nttiawwt.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (12ET2)

Well fck you too!

Posted by: Kermit the Frog at January 23, 2022 07:23 PM (llON8)

56 Are those the cigars they smoke in The Villages?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 07:23 PM (63Dwl)

57 Alas I believe my age is catching up with me and I made an error in my range report. The comment Schnorflepuppy made to me about not shooting since Corsicana is wrong.

A week or so after Corsicana I met up with CBD at an indoor range by him to return his firearms. We did put a couple down range, including some with my Sig.

My bad, please continue....

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:23 PM (mcfjc)

58 Non-Standard 1911, video #2 is an asshoe. Much of his presentation if fodder for the DNC.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 07:24 PM (Wj/z9)

59 I got a hurry pay us American Rifle mag too. I think I might be done with the NRA.

Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (+ya+t)

60 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:23 PM (mcfjc)
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You filed a false report? YOU FILED A FALSE REPORT?!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (kyYHi)

61 RE NRA video.

I am pretty sure this is how all NGO's operate, and especially Quangos. And foundations, and a lot of corporations too. The "elite" ruling class never miss an opportunity for grift.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (sxkMH)

62 The Economist says the growing diversity of gun owners is bad for the gun control crowd:

https://tinyurl.com/2srtmmjk

(link goes to Breitbart)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (a3Q+t)

63 33 ... "I'm a life member and mine said the same thing."

Same here. That 'notice' on the latest American Rifleman really pissed me off. What brain dead ass thought that was a good idea.

We've both been top of the line life members for many years. The NRA used to be in our wills. That changed some time ago.

Posted by: JTB at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (7EjX1)

64 52 Thanks. You'll have to pry the GT from my cold, dead fingers!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM

If you are not careful with your katana you may not have fingers to pry the guns from!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:26 PM (mcfjc)

65 60 You filed a false report? YOU FILED A FALSE REPORT?!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM

(Hangs head in shame) I guess I will be picking up .22 brass after the next TXMoMe as punishment.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (mcfjc)

66 I just read an excellent new biography of Browning: "The Guns of John Moses Browning, The Remarkable Story of the Inventor Whose Firearms Changed the World" by Nathan Gorenstein, 2021. I highly recommend it.

One detail I found rather amusing in it is not gun related. Browning was a Mormon. His father was an early convert and had three wives. John Moses was a son by his second wife. At one point JMB thought about following his father's example and taking a second wife. However, when he told his wife about this idea, her response (according to family tradition) was a very simple one: "Over your dead body." Browning dropped the idea.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (7mCBs)

67 (Hangs head in shame) I guess I will be picking up .22 brass after the next TXMoMe as punishment.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM


Living in a non-free state is punishment enough.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (a3Q+t)

68 Scuba_Dude!!

Posted by: Ben Had at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (Dj+ic)

69 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:26 PM (mcfjc)
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WD is kind of bitey, too!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (kyYHi)

70 I prefer the gray background if only because that pistachio mint ice cream color is distracting. Seems inappropriate for firearms.

Posted by: JTB at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (7EjX1)

71 And gay or not, the green color does make the details on the grip show up better.

Better slightly than the gray and of course the solid white just buries all the detail.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (eYV9L)

72 Oh, and moar bad news. It does appear that The Arms Room, a rather nice indoor range, store and classroom facility in League City, TX, has gone kerplunkt.

I stopped in there a couple of times and they seemed to have very little in the way of inventory. I don't know how you could not make $$ with a gun store these days but I guess not having stuff to sell would do it.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (nfrXX)

73 Ben Had!! Any hog sightings or are they all avoiding going near your place? :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (mcfjc)

74 Finally, a range report:
I put my big-boy pants on and ventured out in 15-degree NH weather. Also, my fleece-lined jeans, my long sleeve t-shirt, my flannel shirt, my parka, my snowboard gloves and my blaze orange wooly watch cap. Quite a fashion figure, huh?
LGS guy sold me some Eley .22 ammo. Match, at $17.50/box, and Team, at $16.00. He wanted me to let me know if they were any good.
Short answer, yes.
Longer answer is real cold weather affects barrels and ammo. Both the Christiansen Ranger and the Ruger Precision Rimfire devoured them both, grouped around 1/2" at 50 yds, but threw an occasional flyer, largely after the barrel cooled when switching to the other rifle.

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (12ET2)

75 Weasel!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (eA1RV)

76 Why would anyone want more than one wife?
At the same time I mean...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (jTmQV)

77 That NRA story is something else.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (KFhLj)

78 Posted by: John F. MacMichael at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (7mCBs)
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Think that'd be a no-go for WW, too. Howdy and welcome to the GT!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:31 PM (0IeYL)

79 (And now to read the comments!)

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:31 PM (A2G/3)

80 There is one caliber, .45ACP, and John Moses Browning (PBUH) is its prophet...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 23, 2022 07:31 PM (CcOog)

81 64 52 Thanks. You'll have to pry the GT from my cold, dead fingers!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM
If you are not careful with your katana you may not have fingers to pry the guns from!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:26 PM (mcfjc)
Dang, I forgot Weasel's katana! Me and Hogmartin visited a local gubmeister and I got to drool slobber over the gubmeister's katana he had on the wall. Which I could have bought 20 years ago for $800US and didn't. Ouch.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:32 PM (0OP+5)

82 Either color is better than last week's white. Baby steps. Let's continue to encourage Weasel on his photographic journey. One day we may be treated to spectacular images from some of the scenery of Weasel Acres.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:32 PM (a3Q+t)

83 Are those the cigars they smoke in The Villages?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

And then some!!

Posted by: The Blue-Haired Ladies of The Villages at January 23, 2022 07:32 PM (mD/uy)

84 Scuba_Dude They have gone and I don't even have any coyotes to shoot.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (Dj+ic)

85 RI Red, how are you doing? How is it up by you?

Is this the time of the year you set aside to clean the rifles and load ammo for when the weather gets warmer?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (mcfjc)

86 Not sure see a purpose of full auto 1911

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (2JoB8)

87 Joined private range. Yesterday was orientation and gun handling 'test' that was a one-on-one with an RSO.

The test was mostly to see if you can keep the barrel pointed downrange, load and clear the gun.

They had .22 pistols for those that didn't bring their own guns or never shot before. Those lanes moved a bit slower with on the spot training. The takeaway is that these were all volunteers, very helpful, and even if you never shot before you could join the club.

Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (Xvtje)

88 Posted by: JTB at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (7EjX1)
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Agreed. Distracting is exactly right.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (0IeYL)

89 And I was surprised that I shot the M&P better one handed weak than I did one handed dominant.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (mcfjc)

Going to guess it's a difference in grip? something different that shifts how you hold it in each hand, maybe? Or the feel of the trigger, so you're putting your finger on it differently?

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (A2G/3)

90 Ben Had, got your e-mail and responded, but you ignored me!

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (12ET2)

91 Thank God for JMB

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (2JoB8)

92 Hello Weasel!!
Hello Gun nuts!!
No range trip this week.
Bought a tumbler, and some media.
Reloading should be starting soon..

Posted by: jesse in dc at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (kTRt4)

93 Also, let us not forget portraits of the Executive Producers of the Weasel Acres series of videos we all enjoy.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (a3Q+t)

94 Second Amendment Foundation
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (0OP+5)

Do you mean people are investigating them? Or that they investigate others? That was my question: Are other 2A orgs getting investigated and examined the same way the NRA is? Or is it getting all the attention?

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:35 PM (A2G/3)

95 FWIW: Color seems truer with the gray background!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (hOUT3)

96 Re Non-Standard 1911s: from the deep recesses of my failing nearly 29-year-old memory, I seem to recall reading an article about an American-born IRA gunman who used a full auto 1911 back during the Troubles, about the same time they were smuggling M1921 Thompsons to the Auld Sod.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (dVlo/)

97 Posted by: jesse in dc at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (kTRt4)
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Good job! What sort of tumbling media are you going to use? I like crushed walnut. If you go that route, buy it from a pet store and not a gun store. You'll save big bucks.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (kyYHi)

98 84 Posted by: Ben Had at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM

I keep thinking that when I retire and if I am in Texas that I will hopefully have a nice piece of property where I can sit on the porch and make the hogs and coyotes nervous. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (mcfjc)

99 It's like a party!
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (sxkMH)

Brass confetti!

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (A2G/3)

100 I am a life member of the NRA because my gun club requires it.

So the NRA is just like labor unions in the Northeast.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 23, 2022 07:37 PM (CcOog)

101 Goodness.
She Equips Herself is lovely. And damn good.

No range again as I'm feeling not great and have been mega exposed to the Rona and don't want to expose other folks.

Can't wait to copy her 3.5, 5, 7, 10, and 15 yard one hole drills. I'll send pics if not too embarrassing.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:37 PM (U2p+3)

102 You'll have to pry the GT from my cold, dead fingers!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (0IeYL)


Now you jinxed it!

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:37 PM (A2G/3)

103 Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (a3Q+t)
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Both were at the vet yesterday for a nail trim, and WD got a shot. Everyone is healthy!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (0IeYL)

104 "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket."

-- Eric Hoffer

Under LaPierre, the NRA has firmly entrenched itself in the racket phase. Honestly, I don't know what to do about it. It's the only (nominally) pro-2A organization that has any pull with politicians. And TBF LaPierre isn't doing this on his own; the BoD is stacked with cronies. And the BoD has near-full control of who gets on the BoD. As so many Morons have said about other things, we ain't voting our way out of this.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (nfrXX)

105 Heh...Forty Shades of .45

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (CTJwJ)

106 RE NRA video.

I am pretty sure this is how all NGO's operate, and especially Quangos. And foundations, and a lot of corporations too. The "elite" ruling class never miss an opportunity for grift.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM


Wounded Warriors did this after they got big. The wife and I used to give them tons of $$$$ but no more after those stories and videos hit of them taking first class flights, buying silk suits and staying in penthouse rooms for events.


Fortunately most of those people are gone, but the stink remains on the charity and we refuse to donate to them now.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (bVYXr)

107 How many mags would you have to carry for a full auto 1911?

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (9sjiB)

108 94 Second Amendment Foundation
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (0OP+5)
Do you mean people are investigating them? Or that they investigate others? That was my question: Are other 2A orgs getting investigated and examined the same way the NRA is? Or is it getting all the attention?

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:35 PM (A2G/3)
2A Foundation sues the yankee government on my behalf. Like Texas State Rifle Association, they do more for me than the NRA ever did. And they do it without $3 thousand dollar suits.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (0OP+5)

109 Browning dropped the idea.
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (7mCBs)

Wonder if he ever thought "Never should have taught her to shoot."?

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (A2G/3)

110 Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (9sjiB)
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All of them?

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (0IeYL)

111 Just got asked to be on the board of my local club. I can't wait to get all my grift set up!

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:40 PM (12ET2)

112 89 Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM

I would have to say it was the grip and the weight. My Sig on the other hand was soooo heavy in my weak hand. My rounds were all over the place.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:41 PM (mcfjc)

113 66 ... "I just read an excellent new biography of Browning: "The Guns of John Moses Browning, The Remarkable Story of the Inventor Whose Firearms Changed the World" by Nathan Gorenstein, 2021. I highly recommend it."

Yep! I thought it was interesting as well. Browning's daddy was sure a surprise.

Posted by: JTB at January 23, 2022 07:41 PM (7EjX1)

114 Ok. Either I'm stupid, or I'm stupid.

Those bullets shown with the 1911s. Those aren't .45. What's up?

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:42 PM (U2p+3)

115 BTW, Weasel, did any ever tell you not to fire that round in your 1911?

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:43 PM (12ET2)

116 No range time, darn it!

But, a question crossed my mind about CCW and going to the restaurant. Does anyone think seriously about menu selection and how it might impact having to use the firearm?

I'll hang up and listen. Thanks.

Great thread, weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 23, 2022 07:44 PM (5pTK/)

117 Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:42 PM (U2p+3)
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It's a 1911 chambered in .30-'06.

Kidding.

I use the round to have the Gun sit at an angle in the pic so I don't have to climb up on the kitchen counter.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (0IeYL)

118 .45 ACP. The Peter Paul Reubens portrayal of projectile beauty. Yo?

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (0OP+5)

119 Purely unrelated to anything, but the NY Post had a story about the weapon used against the 2 cops in Harlem. Apparently was a Glock .45, but it had a magazine that dropped down, extended, dangling below that was (ostensibly) a 40 round drum.
Weird.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (jTmQV)

120
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (DUIap)

121 BTW, Weasel, did any ever tell you not to fire that round in your 1911?
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:43 PM (12ET2)
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I thought it was a little snappy!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:46 PM (0IeYL)

122 Popping in for just a sec, got a puppy I need to wear out before it gets dark!

Looks like somebody already told you digital camera sensors want white to be a 16% gray. Not sure what you're using for your pix, but even phones have some pretty sophisticated software to fix that shot on the white background - just dial back the shadows (not exposure).

The gray is the best background, too much color transfer/reflection from green - plus if you have a nice wood or G10 grip, the simultaneous contrast will make the colors look way off. You could in fact shoot on a black background and find the gun pops. But the gray card you've got has nice, even lighting and that's good enough IMO. Nice!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 23, 2022 07:46 PM (wAnMi)

123 The other problem with dropping the bolt on a chambered round is that the extractor can be damaged.

Posted by: butch at January 23, 2022 07:46 PM (cHvOo)

124 117 Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:42 PM (U2p+3)
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And good job paying attention!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:47 PM (kyYHi)

125 Horde mind, nurse.
Likely .223/5.56. You know, for the evil black rifle. Hard to prop up a 1911 with a stubby little .45 ACP.

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:47 PM (12ET2)

126 I use the round to have the Gun sit at an angle in the pic so I don't have to climb up on the kitchen counter.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (0IeYL)
Overalls. Restrict range of motion. Go natural.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:47 PM (0OP+5)

127 The Guns & Gadgets guy has been around for a bit. I don't watch him often. I don't know what you mean by "legit" though. He does follow the NRA saga closely. I let my membership lapse though because of LaPierre and Law.

LaPierre knows he's drawing scrutiny and he seems to be daring people to do something about it. But he seems to control the board and has a lock on that flank. Nothing good is going to happen at the NRA until he is gone.

I expect some of these expenses will be reviewed as potential income for different people and that leads to tax fraud and evasion charges.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at January 23, 2022 07:48 PM (+Kpte)

128 Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:47 PM (0OP+5)
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Ha! Good call.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:48 PM (0IeYL)

129 Today at the range in honor of JMB's birthday our pal Ed L. brought a 1911 which was manufactured in 1912. One of the first delivered to the Army. Also, he had a 1945ish FN Hi-Power - something early after starting up after liberation from the Nazis.

Very cool pistols. But, no, we did NOT get to shoot them.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (9otr5)

130 they do more for me than the NRA ever did.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (0OP+5)

Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And hearing good things about other orgs is beneficial.
But it sounds like NRA is drawing all the fire at the moment (and, sadly, it sounds like for good reason).

I hope that doesn't mean other orgs might be playing shenanigans but not getting noticed doing so.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (A2G/3)

131 Looking at these Non Standard 1911 videos. They look like fun but why?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (mcfjc)

132 But, a question crossed my mind about CCW and going to the restaurant. Does anyone think seriously about menu selection and how it might impact having to use the firearm?

As a general rule, I pass on the adult beverages when I'm carrying. Which is almost always, so I do my drinking at home.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (nfrXX)

133 Someone had to be fucking the travel planner. Cause that's the only way to get paid $15k a month for what amounts to secretarial work for a handful of people. That or she's related to someone.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 07:51 PM (KFhLj)

134 Also, last week we talked about some storage options brought on by my, err, shelving incident. Without further ado:

Resolution of my shelving issue. So quick recap I have a concealed storage shelf that has an electronic RFID lock and the batteries died. There is a socket for an external battery pack to deal with those times the batteries die. This did not work. Support from the manufacturer told me to buy from them a master opener card which is where I left this story a couple of weeks ago. 1/4

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:52 PM (9otr5)

135 Bills tied it up.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 23, 2022 07:52 PM (jYQlA)

136 They look like fun but why?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (mcfjc)

Grasshopper, you ask the wrong question.
Why NOT?

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:52 PM (A2G/3)

137 I guess we'd need to see pictures of the travel planner to determine whether the comp rate makes sense.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:52 PM (0IeYL)

138 The color is gray and the colour is grey.
I tend to flip between the American and Euro versions myself.

Another photo tip - set your camera for spot metering and make sure the spot is on the gun.

Posted by: KCSteve at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (bxAlI)

139 Did anyone go to SHOT Show this past week? My wife was there, and she said that, while less attended than two years ago, was still great.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (mdjgu)

140 The master opener card arrived and as I feared it did not work. Other sources on the internet suggested an air wedge. This is a thin bladder that would insert into the gap in the shelf and a hand bulb inflates it applying pressure. This one says up to 300 lbs. Insert. Pump. (Hey that's not a straight line!) and in short order the shelf opened by breaking the wooden mount for the plunger on the lock. Not ideal but the damage is minimal and reparable. And the contents are out but of course later fell in the creek. And as I suspected, the wiring from the external socket for the battery pack to the lock mechanism was not well connected and that is why that fail safe, umm, failed. 2/4

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (9otr5)

141 I pass on the adult beverages when I'm carrying.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (nfrXX)

I think he was pondering greasy foods and such. But yes, I normally pass up alcohol eating out now.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (A2G/3)

142 that's the only way to get paid $15k a month

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 07:51 PM (KFhLj)


That's about the only way to get paid $15k a MONTH for ANY job.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (A2G/3)

143 I think this design needs improvement. First it seems possible that the issue with the internal wiring is user error (read me). It is essentially a 3.5mm stereo extension cable. The plug was inserted into the lock mechanism but not fully seated thus causing the external battery pack to be not useful. I may have pulled it loose during installation. This could do with either a permanently attached cable or a locking one. I can see why they don't. The lock itself is a generic made in China component and there needs to be some flexibility on cable length, etc. But it would resolve this issue. 3/4

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (9otr5)

144 GWB @ 130- I been NRA a buncha years and been to a lot of gatherings, but Second Amendment Foundation and Gottlieb are fighting the battle in the courtroom and not in the print world. Can we win it in the courtroom? I don't know, I am just a backhoe operator. To be truthful I don't want to go to the 'next' stage, but I already signed on and took the money.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (0OP+5)

145 139 Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2022 07:53 P

I thought SHOT was open to those in the industry, am I wrong?
Because if it was open to the public I would love to go to one.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:55 PM (mcfjc)

146 Another thing might be to have the batteries accessible externally. Again, I can see why they wouldn't. You have the generic lock component as well as disturbing the lines of the floating shelf. I am sure it could be done but it would be more difficult to make. Perhaps some mechanical or magnetic fail safe that allows opening when there is no power. Regardless in its current design it seems somewhat risky.

I am looking at the thing now trying to see how I might replace that wooden mount with a 3D printed one that incorporates some type of mechanical failsafe. 4/4

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:55 PM (9otr5)

147 Not a big 1911 fan. Too heavy.

:runs

Posted by: Capital Eff at January 23, 2022 07:56 PM (GYllL)

148 To be truthful I don't want to go to the 'next' stage, but I already signed on and took the money.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (0OP+5)


Wait there's money involved? Do you get first class tickets as well?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 07:56 PM (hOUT3)

149 I thought SHOT was open to those in the industry, am I wrong?
Because if it was open to the public I would love to go to one.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:55 PM


Anyone can go if you claim you are a "journalist". Tons of people get in that way.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 07:57 PM (bVYXr)

150 The non-standard 1911s must be relatively easy to make. I have heard enough Army range stories of old worn out 1911s just going to full auto on their own.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:57 PM (9otr5)

151 NRA Lifetime here. But not happy or supportive. I still have a bit in my will about the NRA Institute for Legal Action. Thinking about it.

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (12ET2)

152 I am just a backhoe operator.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (0OP+5)

So you're already doing your part to reduce the rampant criminality.

And I understand your position, entirely. It's a good one.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (A2G/3)

153 147 Not a big 1911 fan. Too heavy.

:runs
Posted by: Capital Eff at January 23, 2022 07:56 PM (GYllL)
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*GASP!*

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (0IeYL)

154 Horde mind, nurse.
Likely .223/5.56. You know, for the evil black rifle. Hard to prop up a 1911 with a stubby little .45 ACP.

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:47 PM (12ET2)

Neck too long, cartridge too long. 30-06?

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (SH2Zi)

155 147 Not a big 1911 fan. Too heavy.

:runs
Posted by: Capital Eff

It's ok. I love 1911s. The heft in my hand is a constant reminder of their deadly character. And it seems, to me, to steady my hand.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:59 PM (U2p+3)

156 I'm still on the hunt for my "unicorn"--the new Springfield Armory SA-35. Its their updated take on the Browning Hi-Power. Haven't found one in person yet, only glowing online reviews and empty stock when checking brick and mortar stores and online sites.

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2022 07:59 PM (ibQSj)

157 Neck too long, cartridge too long. 30-06?
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (SH2Zi)
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Yep!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:01 PM (0IeYL)

158 And to all the NRA Lifetime members, I completely understand. I'm a lifetime member of my Academy Association Of Graduates, and it sucks to watch it all deteriorate in the ascendancy of Progressivism.

(I never could bring myself to become a lifetime member of NRA. Every time I wanted to I couldn't afford it. When I could afford it, I didn't feel I would get much for it.)

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:01 PM (A2G/3)

159 re grift in NGO's,....

The only reason this happens is because the IRS, and legislatures, and gov. allows it. There has to be auditing and transparency requirements, as well as justification for extraordinary expenses when spending other people's money.

The reason gov. allows it is because the "right people" are in control and they want to harass deplorables and not their friends. We have built a corrupt society and something has to change.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 08:02 PM (sxkMH)

160 148 To be truthful I don't want to go to the 'next' stage, but I already signed on and took the money.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (0OP+5)
Wait there's money involved? Do you get first class tickets as well?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January
Well yeah. You held up your hand. You promised to 'support and defend', you got paid (not very much to be sure) but you took the money.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:03 PM (0OP+5)

161 I haven't given the NRA money since I became a life member. That was years ago when I lived in CA and thought, somehow, I was sticking it to the state.

*long sigh*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 08:03 PM (BFigT)

162 Neck too long, cartridge too long. 30-06?
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (SH2Zi)

Damn, flounder. Eye for detail!

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 08:04 PM (12ET2)

163 I keep thinking that when I retire and if I am in Texas that I will hopefully have a nice piece of property where I can sit on the porch and make the hogs and coyotes nervous. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (mcfjc)


Buy Dirt!

You can do this in Florida. Well, maybe not so much the coyotes, but Florida has hogs, too.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:04 PM (9otr5)

164 Hello Weasel and Horde! Off to read the content...

Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:05 PM (NacE+)

165 156 I'm still on the hunt for my "unicorn"--the new Springfield Armory SA-35. Its their updated take on the Browning Hi-Power. Haven't found one in person yet, only glowing online reviews and empty stock when checking brick and mortar stores and online sites.
Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2022 07:59 PM (ibQSj)
I will forego teeth cleanings, dermatologist visits, oil changes, and trips to Whataburger to buy a SA-35.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:06 PM (0OP+5)

166 Howdy, Ed L!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:07 PM (0IeYL)

167 Academy sports had more ammo in stock than they have in awhile. Picked up some Winchester 62 grain 5.56 for 13.99/box. Limit still 4 boxes/person per day

Posted by: hubcap at January 23, 2022 08:07 PM (bIz+p)

168 163 Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:04 PM

I have been looking in Florida too, mainly in the Panhandle area where I was born. I am looking for minimum of 2 acres but I would not mind having more. :-)

And I am not looking for any beachfront. Something about hurricanes make me nervous.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 08:08 PM (mcfjc)

169 I've a 45, a 38SPL/357, and a 380, all of which are more expensive to shoot than a 9.

When the Obama thing blew the lid of handgun ammo pricing, and then with Joetato and WuHu bringing it back even stronger, ammo pricing tempts me into just selling all three and getting a Sig P229 Nitron.

Two CCW ago, in CO, where you gotta take a one day thing with a certified instructor, the guy leading the class was the chief range guy for the Adams county sheriff department, and on its lead SWAT team. They were first into the Arvada theater where the guy did the batman mass murder.

He carries a Sig P229 and described a hollow point load he always uses that he claims makes it as deadly as most any 45.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 23, 2022 08:08 PM (KiBMU)

170 Not a big 1911 fan. Too heavy.

:runs
Posted by: Capital Eff

Whaaaaat?

I really don't mind a full-size frame - BUT, your belt better be up to the challenge.

Posted by: The Blue-Haired Ladies of The Villages at January 23, 2022 08:08 PM (mD/uy)

171 Well yeah. You held up your hand. You promised to 'support and defend', you got paid (not very much to be sure) but you took the money.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:03 PM (0OP+5)


Oh, that part...
And you are right it wasn't much money...
I could have done better by grifting...
But I can sleep at night this way!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (hOUT3)

172 Shoot! Off sock.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (mD/uy)

173 Buy Dirt!

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:04 PM (9otr5)

I so want to do this. I need to get the house fixed up so I can unload it and go "work remotely" from somewhere more free. And somewhere I can shoot a rifle on my own property.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (A2G/3)

174 One detail I found rather amusing in it is not gun related. Browning was a Mormon. His father was an early convert and had three wives. John Moses was a son by his second wife. At one point JMB thought about following his father's example and taking a second wife. However, when he told his wife about this idea, her response (according to family tradition) was a very simple one: "Over your dead body." Browning dropped the idea.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (7mCBs)
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I'm going to hazard a guess that the early Mormon theology regarding multiple wives was based in no small part upon actuarial tables that showed that women tended to outlive men and therefore there was a surplus balance of widows vs widowers.

Armed wives could change that equation.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (llXky)

175 It's ok. I love 1911s. The heft in my hand is a constant reminder of their deadly character. And it seems, to me, to steady my hand.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:59 PM (U2p+3)

Concur. The heft helps me keep the pistol on target and just feels right when shooting it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (R/m4+)

176 @Weasel I've been following the Guns&Gadgets guy for a while. He ran a promotion for GOA a while back, so he seems to be connected to 2A pretty well. He's also pretty solid on his reporting of 2A issues and developments.

And his reporting on this case seems to be quoting the NY AG's investigative results. If the reports are right, and I tend to believe G&G was accurately reporting what was filed, it makes this Life Member regret actually becoming a Life Member. I still get tons of calls from NRA, but I keep telling them that GOA is getting my money now until Wayne leaves. I'm disappointed by that since I think NRA has more clout, but Wayne's behavior disgusts me and I don't want anything from me going into his pocket.

Posted by: nerdbert at January 23, 2022 08:10 PM (mayVJ)

177 I think he was pondering greasy foods and such. But yes, I normally pass up alcohol eating out now.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (A2G/3)
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Yup, greasy finger foods, hamburgers, fries, to a lesser extent, tacos, etc.

Great, now I'm hungry.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 23, 2022 08:10 PM (5pTK/)

178 Not a big 1911 fan. Too heavy.

:runs
Posted by: Capital Eff

I have only shot a 1911 .45 a few times. I was surprised, actually, how easy it was to shoot, and did not think it was heavy (about 1984). Since it shoots a heavier but slower projectile than a 9 mm, it's not hard for a modest built person to shoot.
I have shot a lot of bad 9 mm pistols that I frankly hated, but there are a lot of really fine 9 mm semi-autos that have bigger mags than a typical .45 1911.

I did get to shoot my new Glock 17, Gen 5 last December, and really liked it a lot. Lighter, easy to grip and shoot. Shot great right out of the box.
My son and I shot together at the range, and a funny thing happened. My son is natural left hander, and shot the Glock left handed. He kept rubbing the magazine release button, and after every shot, the Glock would jam, and stovepipe a round. Bothered me really bad, until we figured out what was happening.
So this is not a pistol for left-handed shooters.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 23, 2022 08:11 PM (tjZg/)

179 Posted by: nerdbert at January 23, 2022 08:10 PM (mayVJ)
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Thank you. And welcome!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:11 PM (0IeYL)

180 I like the walnut shell media. I bought a " big " container they had at Murdocs (Hornady brand). Enough to get me started anyway.
I used to buy 5 gallon pails from Graingers, but in Md they were 10 minutes away. I used it in the bead blaster.
The pet store tip is well worth it.
THANKS!!!

Posted by: jesse in dc at January 23, 2022 08:11 PM (kTRt4)

181 your belt better be up to the challenge.
Posted by: The Blue-Haired Ladies of The Villages at January 23, 2022 08:08 PM (mD/uy)

More importantly, your hips/butt/gut better be up to it. My problem is my hips don't hold my pants up, my belt does. So putting a holster on it has been an adventure.

We really need an entire thread on holsters and carry options and such. Maybe it's email time....

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:12 PM (A2G/3)

182 The FL panhandle is a little chilly in winter. For a more subtropical feel, go south into the areas around Arcadia and LaBelle, inland from coastal Fort Meyers, where there are plenty of opportunities for living in the semi-bush with a little acreage and nearby public land on which to shoot.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 23, 2022 08:13 PM (KiBMU)

183 Armed wives could change that equation.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (llXky)


How so? Arming the wives just makes it even MORE likely the wives will outlive the men....

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:13 PM (A2G/3)

184 171 Well yeah. You held up your hand. You promised to 'support and defend', you got paid (not very much to be sure) but you took the money.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:03 PM (0OP+5)
Oh, that part...
And you are right it wasn't much money...
I could have done better by grifting...
But I can sleep at night this way!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (hOUT3)
I knew you would see it this way. 'Gather up. Check your cap, mount your bayonet, go forward. They have cheese in their haversacks!'

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:13 PM (0OP+5)

185 Posted by: jesse in dc at January 23, 2022 08:11 PM (kTRt4)
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You bet! I think it's sold as reptile bedding, and you can buy a 20# sack for what you would spend on 3 oz. at the gun store.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:14 PM (0IeYL)

186 And to all the NRA Lifetime members, I completely understand. I'm a lifetime member of my Academy Association Of Graduates, and it sucks to watch it all deteriorate in the ascendancy of Progressivism.

(I never could bring myself to become a lifetime member of NRA. Every time I wanted to I couldn't afford it. When I could afford it, I didn't feel I would get much for it.)

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:01 PM


I am an NRA Life Patron member that can actually vote if I go to meetings. They want me to upgrade to Benefactor Life membership for $350, a 75% discount and I get a free Dakota Ridge performance jacket.


The NRA is getting desperate.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 08:15 PM (bVYXr)

187 No range time, too cold to go outside, but hoping to get a group to an indoor range next week.

Side note on revolvers: lead bullets kind of suck. Even in a snubbie, digging all that lead out requires solvents or extra elbow grease.

One of the nice things about having a magnum-compatible revolver is that you can shoot the weaker rounds (i.e. .38 Special) and then at the end of the session throw some jacketed magnums through as "bore cleaners." This actually works.

I've been hoarding my .32 H&R Magnum rounds, but I'm going to have to touch a few off after using .32 Long because digging that lead out is a pain.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:15 PM (llXky)

188 Pet store for the walnut shell. NuFinish from the auto store. Used (not new) dryer anti-static sheets. Dash of mineral spirits.

Voila! Clean brass. Not as shiny, perhaps, as using corncob, but very clean, very cheaply.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:16 PM (OTzUX)

189 I believe the Mormon theology of multiple wives was dreamed up by Joseph Smith all by himself, and based on his love of women. Nothing else but that.

Whatever else the church says is just spin.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 23, 2022 08:16 PM (KiBMU)

190 We really need an entire thread on holsters and carry options and such. Maybe it's email time....
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:12 PM (A2G/3)
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Y'all send me your ideas and I'll put it together. What have you chosen and why? Links and pics too.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:16 PM (0IeYL)

191 Just burned a Zino Nicaragua, toro. Pretty nice. Not even sure, think it was a Connecticut wrapper, need to check for more info on it. There's a buy at my usual cigar store, now each time I go in, I have him suggest one new-to-me stick, this was one of those.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:17 PM (OTzUX)

192 How so? Arming the wives just makes it even MORE likely the wives will outlive the men....

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:13 PM (A2G/3)
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Exactly. Adding a second wife could drastically shorten your life expectancy - especially if she's using a compact Colt 1903 or a Browning 1900, which are much easier for female hands to grasp.

Browning kind of tricked himself on that one.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:17 PM (llXky)

193 Hello horde!

It's already been said, but both of the new background colors in the 1911 photos do a good job of bringing out the details. The original photos do have one point in their favor though, because they make it harder to see the big circular reassembly scratches on the left side of the pistol. The scratches even go up onto the slide! I'm not judging or anything, just saying. And it's JMB's birthday today, too...

Posted by: Lazy Messenger at January 23, 2022 08:18 PM (KP12d)

194 Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:17 PM (OTzUX)
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I'll check that out. Thx!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:18 PM (0IeYL)

195 From the Old Testament, having more than one wife sure does not sound like a formula for happiness.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 08:18 PM (KFhLj)

196 Posted by: Lazy Messenger at January 23, 2022 08:18 PM (KP12d)
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It was previously owned!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:19 PM (0IeYL)

197 More importantly, your hips/butt/gut better be up to it. My problem is my hips don't hold my pants up, my belt does. So putting a holster on it has been an adventure.

We really need an entire thread on holsters and carry options and such. Maybe it's email time....

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:12 PM (A2G/3)
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Suspenders? Sam Browne belt?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:20 PM (llXky)

198 I went to the range today intending to buy some 9mm because last time we were there they had 115 grain FMJ for 16.99 a box which was not terrible. So I said I that's a good price I will get some next time.

Yeah. Well. Today they had 115 grain FMJ for 18.99 a box. But limit one per person.

124 grain hollowpoints were only 19.99 a box. And no limit.

So I got some hollowpoints. I need to stick to the maxim - when you see decent priced ammo, buy it.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:20 PM (9otr5)

199 173 Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM

That is what I want to do. Enough property so I can have my own private range. I had seen a place about about 40 minutes north of Houston that if I had the money I would have bought. 10 acres of land, mostly wooded. And the house was built in 2017, VERY nice.

But the main reason is most of my life I have lived in close proximity to people and I want space. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 08:21 PM (mcfjc)

200 Weasel, you might have to change the backgrounds depending on the gun's finish. That 1911 looks parkerized (or something close to it, so the green or gray sets off its color pretty well. If you photograph a gun w/ a different finish, say a Colt Python in the Ultimate Bright Stainless Steel finish which is super shiny, a darker color might contrast better and thus, do a better job of showing off that finish.

Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:21 PM (NacE+)

201 Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:21 PM (NacE+)
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I'm just happy the whole contraption wasn't a big waste of money!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:22 PM (0IeYL)

202 Haven't even checked out the NRA thing yet, but of all the incredibly infuriating and discouraging things, a dysfunctional Beltway-captured or corrupted NRA ranks up there. Their legislative arm has always been the key, as far as 2A action, correct? I hope it's hanging in there.

Isn't there some potentially* important case at SCOTUS now? Is whig in the house?

* "potentially" because the court without pausing or breathing hard makes epochal rulings that are not only absurd but also well outside their competence to begin with - but such an easy, actually routine thing like the Second Amendment ..... AWOL for generations, usually won't even consider the cases, and when they do, micron-sized narrow rulings - except for Heller ..... which is toilet paper to the states and inferior courts, so far

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:22 PM (OTzUX)

203 I would hold off on the SA35 until some of the teething issues are worked out. Plus there is so much more coming out of SHOT in the BHP market.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:23 PM (ulKlo)

204 Browning kind of tricked himself on that one.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:17 PM (llXky)


A later chapter in the book pretty well indicates that JMB had a sidepiece while "consulting" with FN in Europe.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 08:23 PM (hOUT3)

205 Hey Weasel. Thanks for the gun thread as always. And especially thanks for the words about OM, Tami, and Red.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 23, 2022 08:24 PM (ikXZL)

206 Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:20 PM (9otr5)


I can't shoot the hollow points on the ranges I can currently use (all indoor). So it's not really cheaper.

Unless I go to certain parts of town. Maybe I could get some practice in that way.........

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:24 PM (A2G/3)

207 Crusader, FN just came out at ShotShow with their own updated version of the famous Hi Power. Now there are three versions to choose from.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (E1b6a)

208 When our father passed away, my brother was packing up some of the stuff in his house and found an old 19th century French revolver manufactured by Ferdinand Claudin.

It looks very similar to the one at this link: https://tinyurl.com/3d9x2k6k

I don't think they're worth very much, but it's interesting. It's a pin fire revolver. I believe Claudin also made shotguns, but there's very little information on the internet that I could find.

Posted by: Paco at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (njExo)

209 Hrothgar, so "sidepiece" is not a reference to some kind of firearm in this context, I take it?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (OTzUX)

210 Been meaning to ask a couple of questions on the Gun thread. First, do any of the horde happen to shoot at Hill Country Shooting Sports in Kerrville, TX? That's my local range. Great place, great people!
Also, I'm an NRA life member and I have been trying to find out if there are any plans for a member revolt at the annual meeting in Houston.
There is a precedent, going back to the 77 meeting in Cincinatti, led by Harlon Carter. ANyway high time we got rid of La Pierre and his minions.

Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:26 PM (ByOZn)

211 Posted by: Muad'dib at January 23, 2022 08:24 PM (ikXZL)
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Thanks bro.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:26 PM (0IeYL)

212 >>>nd TBF LaPierre isn't doing this on his own; the BoD is stacked with cronies. And the BoD has near-full control of who gets on the BoD. As so many Morons have said about other things, we ain't voting our way out of this.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (nfrXX)
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Ollie left, Ted Nugent left, that says something.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 08:26 PM (Wj/z9)

213 197 More importantly, your hips/butt/gut better be up to it. My problem is my hips don't hold my pants up, my belt does. So putting a holster on it has been an adventure.

We really need an entire thread on holsters and carry options and such. Maybe it's email time....
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:12 PM (A2G/3)---
Suspenders? Sam Browne belt?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:20 PM (llXky)
Shoulder rig for those of us that have no ass. I work in a vest and gunbelt that weighs in at 30+ pounds, I wear a web belt under my pants that holds down my shirt and holds up my gunbelt. Department won't allow suspenders. When I wear jeans I carry on a Halfbreed gunbelt OWB hoslter rig. No matter what firearm 19ll to G48, works ok but still considering a quality suspenders rig. Like I said shoulder holster for assless folk.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:27 PM (0OP+5)

214 Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:26 PM (ByOZn)
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Howdy and welcome! I recently lost a shooting buddy who was probably a member there.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:28 PM (0IeYL)

215 I hope I don't jinx it, but I plan on going to the range Tuesday. I plan on measured practice with my carry pieces, and a little intro shooting with a G3C.

Then I come home and start the tatties and neeps and warm up the haggis for Burns Night!

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:28 PM (A2G/3)

216 Howdy, Weasel, Horde,

Tami, OregonMuse, redc1c4, RIP.

Red emailed me back in '21, looking for a recommendation for a good real estate agent for a possible move to Texas. Alas.

Posted by: callsign claymore at January 23, 2022 08:28 PM (IBCQk)

217 Evening.

OT: Goddamn Pixy for introducing me to the world of VTubers. Just...no. Fuck no. Fuuuuuuck no!

Vaguely on topic: I'm wondering why some videos aren't showing up in the post. Are they from something other than Youboob or Twatter? So I'm guessing my adblocker is emblockinating them.

Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 08:29 PM (j95C+)

218 Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 08:29 PM (j95C+)
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All these vids should be from YT.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:30 PM (0IeYL)

219 Range duty day this past week. Incredibly beautiful day. As has been the case for a while, rather slow in terms of traffic. Speculation is - ammo prices/availability, but who knows.

Another RO had his new CMP M1 in .308. Beauty. However - en bloc clips wouldn't load. They'd go down in, to a point, but couldn't get them seated all the way. Weird, have never seen this. He single fired, and got his elevation clicks @50 and 100 yds. He's going to consult with CMP this week.

Was able to set up steel on the small range end of the day, had it to myself, and puffed on a nice Avo Classic robusto while practicing with both the XD9 and the Colt Magnum Carry revolver.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:30 PM (OTzUX)

220 Like I said shoulder holster for assless folk.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:27 PM (0OP+5)

And, of course, that changes how you dress, possibly. But it's been a real consideration of mine. Finding a quality, inexpensive (relatively) leather shoulder holster is a little tough to do online.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:31 PM (A2G/3)

221 I have not been to the range but just cleaned out and divided a reloader's 20 year stash. Several thousand rifle and pistol reload rounds of dubious quality, primers, dies, powder, brass, mags, etc. Set up a young man for reloading who is the serious and responsible type with part of it, his father with some more including factory ammo, and I took on the troublesome stuff with some equipment and obscure factory ammo like 32-20.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:31 PM (E1b6a)

222 So I'm guessing my adblocker is emblockinating them.
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 08:29 PM (j95C+)

Also, if you're using a VPN, it might block certain ones if it senses you're "out of region" or something.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:32 PM (A2G/3)

223 La Pierre is a swine. I have been a life member for near 20 years. My old man bought his in 1962, God rest his soul.
A decent human bean would have stepped down long ago for the good of the organization...
What pisses me off is that the NRA belongs to us, the members, not that sleazy grifting jackass.
I hope the AG puts his ass in jail, along with the crooked board members.
I would join the tire iron attitude adjustment raiding party if someone gets it going.

Posted by: jesse in dc at January 23, 2022 08:32 PM (kTRt4)

224 "Crusader, FN just came out at ShotShow with their own updated version of the famous Hi Power. Now there are three versions to choose from.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (E1b6a)"

I like the BHP's they introduced. But the price point is nuts. I believe it's double the MSRP of the sa35. Plus they changed the grip dimensions. Think I'll be holding on this one for now too.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:33 PM (ulKlo)

225 219, rhomboid, did your guy have the 7.62 adaptor block?

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:33 PM (E1b6a)

226 Hi Weasel, and thank you!
Sorry to hear you lost a friend. Seems we are suffering too many losses right now (RIP to Oregon Muse, redc1c4, and Tami)

HCSS is a great facility, rifle and pistol ranges, international skeet, trap, sporting clays and five stand. Oh, and an 800 yard rifle range by appointment.

Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:33 PM (ByOZn)

227 jesse in dc at January 23, 2022 08:32 PM (kTRt4)

Well said!

Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:34 PM (ByOZn)

228 Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:33 PM (ByOZn)
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Sounds like a great place. Next time you go, take some pictures and send us a range report!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:35 PM (0IeYL)

229 I need to fix the backyard range up. The target stand has been the victim of some flooding and needs some TLC.

Actually I need to trash it and build a new one. It's pretty well shot to pieces.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 08:35 PM (BFigT)

230 Holster thread would be cool. I really like C&G Kydex OWB for large frame seasonal carry.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 08:35 PM (Xrfse)

231 GWB: Finding a quality, inexpensive (relatively) leather shoulder holster is a little tough to do online.

Galco Miami Classic.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 23, 2022 08:36 PM (dVlo/)

232 224, Difference is that HiPower collectors will pay for FN but not Springfield Armory commercial products like the SA35. The grip was changed slightly to allow 17 round mags.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:36 PM (E1b6a)

233 In 1941 and early 1942, the US Army embarked on a project to see if the M1911 could be converted into an SMG. The conversion included a stock, extended barrel (10", 12" and 16" if I remember correctly), and, of course, removing the sear to allow full auto fire from 20 round magazines. It didn't fare well in testing against the M1 Carbine. Users said the stocked pistol conversion handled poorly and was difficult to shoot due to its configuration. The introduction of M1 Carbine and M3 Grease Gun in mass quantities killed the project.

Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:38 PM (NacE+)

234 Damn, flounder. Eye for detail!

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 08:04 PM (12ET2)

I've loaded a bit of each. You get used to it.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 23, 2022 08:38 PM (SH2Zi)

235 whig at January 23, 2022 08:31 PM (E1b6a)

I handload 32-20 for a 1912 model 92 and a Marlin 1894CL. A great little cartridge. I stay pretty tame with the Winchester, but the Marlin can safely throw a 115 lead GC at 1800 or so. My favorite "walk & shoot" rifle for coyotes, jacks, etc.

Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:38 PM (ByOZn)

236 202, rhomboid, the case that was granted cert was a full on challenge to Sullivan act and the ny rifle and pistol association is the appellant. NRA, among others is assisting.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:39 PM (E1b6a)

237 Also today sharon(willow's apprentice) rented a couple of pistols (she's going through a selection phase right now). A Glock 48 and a Sig P320 - the M17 style one.

First, the Sig. I was shooting my P226 today so it was a good comparo. I'm going to say that as a shooter really not much difference between the two. Despite the polymer frame, very close in heft. And the P226 gives you DA/SA. Then there is the "modularity" of the P320. If you value that, then there it is.

Buying new off the shelf a P320 is a couple hundred less than a new P226, so there is that, too.

Given that I already have the P226 I don't think I would pursue a P320 for purchase. But if I had a space for a full size 9mm in the stable, I think I would.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:39 PM (9otr5)

238 Also, if you're using a VPN, it might block certain ones if it senses you're "out of region" or something.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:32 PM (A2G/3)

I always figured The Internet just assumed we were all from Nauru...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 23, 2022 08:39 PM (6FeV1)

239 The grip was a big part of the BHP design. Not sure why they would change that just to stack a 17 round mag. I'm not a huge SA35 fan. There seem to be a lot of teething issues and the quality doesn't seem to consistently be there. I would pay for the new BHP if it felt right compared to the original. It doesn't.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:40 PM (ulKlo)

240 He carries a Sig P229 and described a hollow point load he always uses that he claims makes it as deadly as most any 45.

**

I like a 9mm Sig with that round. I carry a 9mm Sig with that round. The problem is they make that round in .45ACP, too, and it performs even better.

(not to you, just in general) Carry what you shoot well, but don't feel the need to justify what you carry. That guy that you see twice a year at the range isn't carrying your pistol every day and making the decisions for your family. Those are yours and yours alone.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 08:40 PM (mwsJy)

241 No lie. I live in Utah. Worked at a "bar." Carded a kid and his ID had three names, all gun brands, but the last name was Browning (don't want to inadvertently doxx anyone). How cool is that?

Posted by: WesternSib at January 23, 2022 08:40 PM (687kE)

242 There is a precedent, going back to the 77 meeting in Cincinatti, led by Harlon Carter. ANyway high time we got rid of La Pierre and his minions.

I sort of presumed that they'd changed to rules to prevent anything like that again. They effectively hobbled Neal Knox for the rest of his life. If there is even a possibility of something, please make sure it gets airtime, here if nowhere else.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 08:41 PM (nfrXX)

243 I gave my range an all around good look last time I was there instead of just down range. Pretty scary all the bullet strikes on the side walls and ceiling.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 08:41 PM (z8oRC)

244 Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:35 PM (0IeYL)

Will do.

Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:42 PM (ByOZn)

245 235, the 32-20 is a legitimate cowboy rifle cartridge and a 32 hr magnum equivalent in a handgun. I recently obtained an old colt revolver in that caliber and was glad to get the box of ammo. Hard to come by in shortage times.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:42 PM (E1b6a)

246 Posted by: WesternSib at January 23, 2022 08:40 PM (687kE)
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Howdy and welcome to the Gun Thread! I was shooting at Camp Perry once with the son of someone in the NRA Comp Div, and his name was Remington.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:43 PM (0IeYL)

247 Also hey everyone, thanks to Weasel as always, and here's to OM and all the others who had to go home before us.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 08:43 PM (mwsJy)

248 My pleasure, Moron Robbie. Thanks.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:44 PM (0IeYL)

249 Department won't allow suspenders. When I wear jeans I carry on a Halfbreed gunbelt OWB hoslter rig. No matter what firearm 19ll to G48, works ok but still considering a quality suspenders rig. Like I said shoulder holster for assless folk.
Posted by: Eromero

I'm still trying to find suitable dress for summer. If I go the polo not tucked in route, I end up looking like one of the goodfellas.

I suppose I could lose some weight.

What the hell am I saying??

Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 08:44 PM (mD/uy)

250 239, marcus, FM probably did that to be competitive in full size service pistols. Their fine poly line has never really received much love from pistol buyers.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (E1b6a)

251 Lemme say this.

LazyMessenger has a box of 1911s that would make all y'all drool. I may have shot all of them. Some are exquisite. They shoot themselves.

I'm spoiled. Between MAE and LazyMessenger, I get to shoot a lot of stuff. So fun. Please. Find shooting buddies. Go shoot. In a range, in the woods, the desert, the snow. Go shoot.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (U2p+3)

252 A decent human bean

This typo is glorious. (No criticism intended.)

Plant-based hoomans!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (KFhLj)

253 Sig P320 is ok, like the M9 was ok, but the 1911 was more than ok. OK?

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:46 PM (0OP+5)

254 The Economist says the growing diversity of gun owners is bad for the gun control crowd
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (a3Q+t)


Diversity of home gun manufacturing is bad for the gun control crowd:
Myanmar rebels are reportedly using 3d printed arms, (the FGC-9 design) to fight a guerilla war

https://tinyurl.com/2p9c74ze

(what is really interesting is there are a NUMBER of identical articles supposedly written by different authors with identical pictures, tweets and comments about atrocities. This one at least has some analysis and information beyond the apparent press release)

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2022 08:47 PM (ZMraq)

255 I'm still trying to find suitable dress for summer. If I go the polo not tucked in route, I end up looking like one of the goodfellas.

**

Go to Duluth Trading and look at their vests. I bought a couple last year that have become my go-to all-season concealed carry coverups. Their nicer ones work with dress clothes (think Sunday or Wednesday evening church, not suit and tie).

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 08:48 PM (mwsJy)

256 In the end, you like what you like. I have heard good things about the SA hi powers. The real question is if they are good shooters. If so, then much else to ask.

As for collectors, they normally go for T and C series Browning's Sure there is other stuff like WW2 era weapons.

Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 08:48 PM (pFZ6b)

257 " 239, marcus, FM probably did that to be competitive in full size service pistols. Their fine poly line has never really received much love from pistol buyers.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (E1b6a)"

Oh I agree. It to me of people are chasing that unique feel you get with the BHP, stay with it. That will get you loyalty. Eh, I'll probably just get a Colt CUR and customize it anyway...

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (ulKlo)

258 And, of course, that changes how you dress, possibly. But it's been a real consideration of mine. Finding a quality, inexpensive (relatively) leather shoulder holster is a little tough to do online.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:31 PM (A2G/3)


By the time I finally got my permit, my waist line had exceeded the point of practical IWB carry. I found Mitch Rosen leather. I have this shoulder rig for 1911. It's pricey at $185, but it's well built and very comfortable.

https://tinyurl.com/2p99kc3w

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (C1NyB)

259 A bit off topic unless you're shooting Hellfires or Dragon AT missiles, but have been looking at some of the images "supposedly" of the rooskie buildup, but could easily be stock photos. Anyway I'm intrigued by some of the slap and dash white on green camouflage painting. Some of it is pretty damned good. The squares are particularly effective at breaking up the vehicle outline.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (axyOa)

260 "Sig P320 is ok, like the M9 was ok, but the 1911 was more than ok. OK?"

I like the M9. It made a better hammer then the P320.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:50 PM (ulKlo)

261 Yeah, She Equips Herself is a cutie. But I learned some things from the drill.
Need to try that one-hole drill with various handguns, after I rescue them from their watery graves.

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 08:51 PM (12ET2)

262 And then the G48. This is a single stack Glock in 9mm. I had, until today, never fired a Glock 9mm. I get the natural pointing thing that people say about Glocks. Yeah, I picked it up and the bullets went where I pointed them. I was surprised how light it was - compared it to sra blaster's P365 and the weight is very similar. It's a bigger frame but ammo capacity is the same.

Not a bad pistol. But still not my thing.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:51 PM (9otr5)

263 Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 08:51 PM (12ET2)
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It's educational!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:52 PM (0IeYL)

264 I've tried the S&W M&P Shield ,in 9mm. I found the slide difficult to retract and the magazines hard on the thumbs (use a loader). Maybe these just go away after a break-in period

Posted by: JM in Florida at January 23, 2022 08:52 PM (L7jyl)

265 Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:40 PM (ulKlo)
I understand that FN changed the guts of the new Hi-Power so field stripping the gun can be done with a flip of a lever instead of removing the slide stop, which required the user to hold the slide just so in order to do this task. Also, there are a few countries that still use the High Power as their issue sidearm; Canada still uses leftover WWII Inglis-made weapons, and Australia still uses FN-made weapons. FN might be trying to pitch the new BHP to military users to replace these old guns.

Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:53 PM (NacE+)

266 Really good gunleather is expensive and historically you had to wait a long time for it. Some of my faves over the years were Alessi, Bulman Gun leather, R.L. Graham, Sparks and others.

Last I checked, years ago, Allessi was still a going concern. Unfortunately Lou passed many years ago.

Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 08:54 PM (pFZ6b)

267 Posted by: JM in Florida at January 23, 2022 08:52 PM (L7jyl)
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Howdy and welcome to the Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:54 PM (0IeYL)

268 Galco Miami Classic.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 23, 2022 08:36 PM (dVlo/)

That ranks in the not-quite-inexpensive. But it looks to be worth investigating. Thanks.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:55 PM (A2G/3)

269 Quint, not all collectors are in it for money. Some are just completists, they want every variation made. Others go after failures like the Hk Vp 70, or the colt all american poly firearm. Some like wartime stuff, etc. Used to be on collectors boards where screw placement made a difference.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:55 PM (E1b6a)

270 I've tried the S&W M&P Shield ,in 9mm. I found the slide difficult to retract and the magazines hard on the thumbs (use a loader). Maybe these just go away after a break-in period
Posted by: JM in Florida

I had the same issues with mine before the accident.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 08:55 PM (mD/uy)

271 262 And then the G48. This is a single stack Glock in 9mm. I had, until today, never fired a Glock 9mm. I get the natural pointing thing that people say about Glocks. Yeah, I picked it up and the bullets went where I pointed them. I was surprised how light it was - compared it to sra blaster's P365 and the weight is very similar. It's a bigger frame but ammo capacity is the same.
Not a bad pistol. But still not my thing.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:51 PM (9otr5)
I have lots of pistols that live in the safe. The G48 with Shield Arms 15 rd mags lives in a Texas 1836 OWB holster on my right hip right now, even though church was done for me at noon.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:56 PM (0OP+5)

272 FM and FN are very different.

Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 08:56 PM (pFZ6b)

273 Picked up a 10/22 this week. Surprisingly the shop had ammunition in a large variety of calibers on the shelf

Posted by: Gman at January 23, 2022 08:56 PM (hYj23)

274 All these vids should be from YT.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:30 PM (0IeYL)

That's weird.

Have you ever considered doing a Gun Thread YouTube video in the form of a VTuber style video? Like a cute anime girl avatar that's heavily armed? You might have to talk in a much higher pitch.

Posted by: Robert, Mr. Bright Idea at January 23, 2022 08:57 PM (wYvhC)

275 272, autocorrect, on phone

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:57 PM (E1b6a)

276 I had planned to go to the range today, but an important step of planning a range trip is making sure the range is open. I didn't do this and only found out after an hour+ drive. Apparently they're cleaning out the lead and rebuilding the berms so no timetable for when they'll reopen. Neither of my alternate range options are great but I'll have to make one of them work.

I did order a couple holsters for the P365XL (one OWB, one IWB) so when I manage to get it sighted in I'll be ready to carry it. Maybe next weekend.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at January 23, 2022 08:57 PM (2VTt6)

277 Picked up a 10/22 this week. Surprisingly the shop had ammunition in a large variety of calibers on the shelf
Posted by: Gman at January 23, 2022 08:56 PM (hYj23)
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Good to hear. It does seem like it's coming back a little at a time. Congratulations on the 10/22!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:58 PM (0IeYL)

278 In the U.S, I would prefer the gray. In Britain, I would also prefer the grey.

Surprisingly, to me the green seems to work well, also.

Nice photos!

Posted by: boynsea at January 23, 2022 08:58 PM (sshap)

279 ". FN might be trying to pitch the new BHP to military users to replace these old guns.
Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:53 PM (NacE+)"

I think you're right. I also think they'll largely fail. If you look at many of the new service weapons, The FN's I saw can't really compete. The modularity and adaptability of the M17 and M18, they are far superior IMVHO

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:58 PM (ulKlo)

280 Posted by: Robert, Mr. Bright Idea at January 23, 2022 08:57 PM (wYvhC)
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The videos I have made were hard enough!!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:59 PM (0IeYL)

281 Plant-based hoomans!
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (KFhLj)

It's PEOPLLLLLLE!!!!

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:59 PM (A2G/3)

282 269. Good point. With Rugers screws are very important. I just want a nice ce weapon that is reliable and shoots well. I admit I favor the Browning marked guns. I like the fit and finish.

Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 09:00 PM (pFZ6b)

283 Posted by: Arch Stanton at January 23, 2022 08:57 PM (2VTt6)
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Bummer! Welcome to the GT, Arch.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:00 PM (0IeYL)

284 I'm not liking my S&W Bodyguard. It's going to need a replacement trigger kit . The stock trigger pull seem as long as a football field .

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:01 PM (z8oRC)

285 Posted by: boynsea at January 23, 2022 08:58 PM (sshap)
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Well at least a little better than before! Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:01 PM (0IeYL)

286 Hey Weasel! It has been a while.

Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 09:01 PM (pFZ6b)

287 Have an FM hi power from Argentina which was a licensed copy of the fn. If you search really hard, there is an FM detective slide that is about 1 inch shorter. It will fit and work on the fm full length slide.

Steven Camp was the guru of all things Hi Power and his widow has kept his webpage resources on line for it. His book is still in print last time I checked.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:02 PM (E1b6a)

288 Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 09:01 PM (pFZ6b)
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Howdy Quint! Nice to see you!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:02 PM (0IeYL)

289 Also, if you're using a VPN, it might block certain ones if it senses you're "out of region" or something.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:32 PM (A2G/3)

No VPN.

I'm just going to assume it's NSA spyware just screwing with my phone.

Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 09:03 PM (H8H8A)

290 I found Mitch Rosen leather.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (C1NyB)

They are the only ones I've found asking about your chest size. I like that. (I think most others count on "adjustable" and everything being across the back, so chest size doesn't matter... as much.)

And yes, a little pricey, but worth a look.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:03 PM (A2G/3)

291 284 I'm not liking my S&W Bodyguard. It's going to need a replacement trigger kit . The stock trigger pull seem as long as a football field .
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:01 PM (z8oRC


S&W trademark.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:03 PM (4fSQf)

292 Just watched that NRA video.
Even if his travel agent looked like She Equips Herself, the salary would be a mite excessive.

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (12ET2)

293 Picked up a 10/22 this week.

Congrats. The 10/22 is high on my "everybody should have one" list. I bought a second one last year that I'm going to build up for my wife. I just got a Boyd's stock and ordered a barrel. Expected wait time 10 weeks! Guess that'll give me plenty of time to round up other parts and send the bolt out for some work.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (nfrXX)

294 I was also shooting my Ruger P95 today. The good one that shoots all the time. Except today. Some sort of magazine issue with a Promag 15 rounder. I am going to have to diagnose this, and if its not something obvious, off to the trash it goes.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (9otr5)

295 whig thanks for the SCOTUS info, that's definitely the case.

And for some reason, people were discussing 32-20 at the range this week. Probably because one of the Schutzenguilders, who is an amazing expert on historic guns, was there.

On the M1/.308 - whig if you mean the block down inside the magazine, up against the front side, yes, it was there. White, appeared to be plastic, which surprised me, but I have zero background on the .308s.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (OTzUX)

296 Not unusual for videos to be invisible for me also here at the hq, basic firefox with adblocker+ and ublock origin.

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:05 PM (9sjiB)

297 Calling it a night. Au revoir to OM, Tami and redc1c4.

Thanks Weasel for another great thread. Until next week!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (mcfjc)

298 I have a Gunfighters Inc. Kenai chest rig for the .357 I carry at the farm. Twasn't inexpensive but I really like it.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (0IeYL)

299 Posted by: Robert, Mr. Bright Idea at January 23, 2022 08:57 PM (wYvhC)

I vote YES! Do it, Weasel!
(Pixy merges with Weasel and the seventh seal is broken!)

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (A2G/3)

300 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (mcfjc)
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'night, amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (0IeYL)

301 295 rhomboid, some of those block adaptors for the 7.62 nato can be troublesome. Could also be an oal ammo issue.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (E1b6a)

302 I don't mind a long trigger pull. I use it to relax and not anticipate the bang.

I know it's gonna be a few hours before I reach fire, so I just chill and think happy thoughts. Like why is that guy beside me shooting an elephant gun on the range and who's brass just went down my shirt.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (4fSQf)

303 Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:58 PM (ulKlo)
I agree, but the biggest thing in SIG's favor is cost. An M17/M18 is about $750 retail. The new BHP will come in at $1300 retail. Unless the military in question is nostalgia heavy for their old BHP's feel, ergonomics, and history, I'd bet on SIG. Canada and Australia aren't known for spending tons of money on their militaries, let alone military sidearms. Cost may be the deciding factor in any future competition.

Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (NacE+)

304 >>>weaker rounds (i.e. .38 Special) and then at the end of the session throw some jacketed magnums through as "bore cleaners." This actually works.
...
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:15 PM (llXky)
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Paul Harrell has an interesting video on 38/357 with
semi-wad cutters, wad cutters and +P.
Backs up what JSND said.




Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (Wj/z9)

305 I'm only here for the terrible pictures. I think the green are my favorite.

Posted by: Draki at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (6K4Co)

306 Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (9otr5)

I've trashed at least five pro mag magazines. I don't buy them anymore. The Magpul Glock mags are excellent though and 25% cheaper.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (z8oRC)

307 I had a holster made for my Magnum Carry when I got it, can't recall the name, some guy down in FL. Very nice work. If I weren't so lazy, I'd look for the paperwork to get the name. Maybe I will do so.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (OTzUX)

308 I did order a couple holsters for the P365XL (one OWB, one IWB) so when I manage to get it sighted in I'll be ready to carry it. Maybe next weekend.
Posted by: Arch Stanton

**

FWIW one of the only places I've found that makes molded tuckable IWB holsters with about every available light/laser option is a little gun store near Tryon, NC. Gunners Haven. He has a storefront but also does internet/mail order. Worth a call or email if you are looking for something particular.

He was the only one who could fit my 365XL with the Crimson Trace light (not laser). None of the big names had the mold. Very reasonable, too. Something like $35 or so for the appendix IWB tuckable, and I've worn it daily for two or three years now.

Good guy. Marine IIRC. Highly recommended to anyone looking for holsters.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:08 PM (mwsJy)

309 Posted by: Draki at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (6K4Co)
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Well then you have come to the right place!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:08 PM (0IeYL)

310 If you want to see some great classics, watch The Highwaymen with Woody Harrelson and Kevin Costner.

When he goes on a shopping spree in the store, he buys one of every gun I want.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:09 PM (4fSQf)

311 298 I have a Gunfighters Inc. Kenai chest rig for the .357 I carry at the farm. Twasn't inexpensive but I really like it.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM
Weasel, I may know 'somebody' that might want one of those.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:09 PM (0OP+5)

312 Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:09 PM (0OP+5)
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Already tried. No joy.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:10 PM (0IeYL)

313 Andrews Custom Leather.

www.andrewsleather.com

Just the one holster, but it's nice.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (OTzUX)

314 When I bought my P226 (Used. Armslist. Did the deal in a Hardee's parking lot.) the guy included a Galco Jackass rig.

It was a good deal.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (9otr5)

315 Manson reamers makes some cylinder reamers that will remove fouling created by using shorter cartridges in longer revolver chambers. Lewis Lead removal tools can do it too along with forcing cone and barrel leading.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (E1b6a)

316 Good guy. Marine IIRC.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:08 PM (mwsJy)

So, just talk slowly when you order?

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (A2G/3)

317 316 Good guy. Marine IIRC.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:08 PM (mwsJy)

So, just talk slowly when you order?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (A2G/3)

Lol. Write in crayon.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:12 PM (4fSQf)

318 I am the last person to evaluate holsters because I've carried a $10 neoprene IWB Uncle Mikes for 25 years.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:13 PM (z8oRC)

319 RIP to OM and Red.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:13 PM (eeRB6)

320 OK, 9:14 thank you time.

Thank you!

I really do appreciate each and every one of you for being here. You all are what makes this fun.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:14 PM (0IeYL)

321 So, just talk slowly when you order?
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Lol. Write in crayon.

*

I don't have the standing to joke, but I think he's sharper than me (not that that's too difficult to achieve).

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:14 PM (mwsJy)

322 Lusted after a BHP for a long time when I was first getting into gunz, but always held off. Pricey, at least enough so that it engaged my "must become extremely knowledgeable about this gizmo before buying" circuits. Never have edumucated myself, so, no purchases. Nice to hear they're back in production.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (OTzUX)

323 I found Mitch Rosen leather.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (C1NyB)

From the description:
"However, at one third the cost of our standard STYLEMASTER"

YIKES! People pay almost $600 for a shoulder holster?!

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (A2G/3)

324 33 Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:13 PM (0OP+5)
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I'm a life member and mine said the same thing.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:14 PM (0IeYL)


Same and same here. Something about "Upgrade your membership". I'm not sending the NRA another nickle while Wayne is there.

Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (F6Xpw)

325 In English it's GREY. (Gray is often used as a last name),
In American English it is GRAY.
There you have it, two countries separated by a common language.

Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (qfLjt)

326 YIKES! People pay almost $600 for a shoulder holster?!


You can get the whole cow for that.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (4fSQf)

327 Shooting with the aspirin shooters, I'm learning stuff.
Like any .22 that uses 10-22 mags, only use the 10-rounders. All of the larger ones move fore and aft in the mag well, and the angle of stripping makes a huge difference in accuracy. Too much of an angle will scrape a miniscule amount of lead off one side of the bullet, causing a minute wobble.

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (12ET2)

328 Same and same here. Something about "Upgrade your membership". I'm not sending the NRA another nickle while Wayne is there.
Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (F6Xpw)
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That's for damn sure.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (0IeYL)

329 Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:13 PM (z8oRC)

No, you're EXACTLY the person to talk about holsters!
(Is it IWB, OWB, or a pocket holster?)

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (A2G/3)

330 Did get to the range yesterday. Put 1 box of 124 gr Norma ammo through the CZ P-07. It shot to point of aim nicely. Then switched to the Kadet slide and put 150 rounds of .22 through it. Great pistol, the more I do my job, the tighter the groups get.

It's my 'if I could only have 1' pistol system.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:17 PM (eeRB6)

331 Same and same here. Something about "Upgrade your membership". I'm not sending the NRA another nickle while Wayne is there.
Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (F6Xpw


Not another dime from me.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:17 PM (4fSQf)

332
I don't think they're worth very much, but it's interesting. It's a pin fire revolver. I believe Claudin also made shotguns, but there's very little information on the internet that I could find.
Posted by: Paco at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (njExo)


Since there is nothing I love more than searching out old pistols

Littlegun.BE has images of everying: Ferdinand Claudin was a family of armorers

https://tinyurl.com/mtvyn6em

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2022 09:17 PM (ZMraq)

333 Somebody mentioned a customer with an intriguing full name, with Browning surname.

Have probably mentioned this, but first time I was exploring the Scheel's in Sparks NV, a young clerk in the gun section had the last name of ..... Earp. Perfect. (and yes, he claimed there was direct relation)

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:19 PM (OTzUX)

334 In English it's GREY. (Gray is often used as a last name),
In American English it is GRAY.
There you have it, two countries separated by a common language.
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (qfLjt)


GREY

Posted by: Draki at January 23, 2022 09:19 PM (6K4Co)

335 310 If you want to see some great classics, watch The Highwaymen with Woody Harrelson and Kevin Costner.
When he goes on a shopping spree in the store, he buys one of every gun I want.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:09 PM (4fSQf)
Question- How many shots were fired at Bonnie and Clyde?
Answer- Enough.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:19 PM (0OP+5)

336 Sweet fucking Christmas...

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/499151/

Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 09:20 PM (6q/S1)

337 YIKES! People pay almost $600 for a shoulder holster?!

I guess if you're going to wear it 40 hours a week, it amortizes pretty fast.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:20 PM (nfrXX)

338 Thanks right back weasel for getting content up every week.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:21 PM (E1b6a)

339 Growing up in north Alabama in the 70s I learned gray for color and grey for weather.

I don't mind either whey.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:21 PM (mwsJy)

340 No, you're EXACTLY the person to talk about holsters!
(Is it IWB, OWB, or a pocket holster?)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (A2G/3)

IWB . Size 16 ( their numbering system for different models that will fit) . I carry the Glock 19. I also have an Uncle Mike's for my Glock 21 when I carry it. Rarely.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:21 PM (z8oRC)

341 I was also shooting my Ruger P95 today. The good one that shoots all the time. Except today. Some sort of magazine issue with a Promag 15 rounder. I am going to have to diagnose this, and if its not something obvious, off to the trash it goes.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (9otr5)

I've stopped buying promags altogether. Their only use now is to produce unexpected stoppages for training.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:22 PM (eeRB6)

342 Come on. Biden can't be bothered to make it to the toilet. You think he's capable of evacuating Americans from countries about to be attacked?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:22 PM (4fSQf)

343 Answer- Enough.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:19 PM (0OP+5)

Close. The answer we were looking for was 'More than enough' .

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:23 PM (z8oRC)

344 Ha, yeah, a Promag is about the only thing that will make a P95 stop working.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:23 PM (mwsJy)

345 And yes kudos to Weasel for making it all happen.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (OTzUX)

346 Thanks right back weasel for getting content up every week.

^
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That.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (nfrXX)

347 Oh and on holsters, before the last embers of the thread die out...I like thumb break retention holsters. My best and most comfortable OWB holsters are by Don Hume (since sold to Oklahoma Leatherworks). I also like Galco, Safariland and DeSantis.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (eeRB6)

348 MAE, please mention a bit more about your cz p07, having a senior moment on that particular model.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (E1b6a)

349 Americans are evacuating Blue parts of the US.

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:25 PM (9sjiB)

350 51 I also quite GOA because (get this) they send you letters with big GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA on the envelope.
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Reminds me of the dildo delivered in a plain brown paper wrapper (the shape is obvious) but the delivery van, sitting at the curbside, has that big torpedo on top with the "AMERICAN SEX TOYS INC." signage.

Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:25 PM (qfLjt)

351 Sweet fucking Christmas...
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/499151/
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 09:20 PM (6q/S1)


How much equipment are we going to accidentally leave the Russians?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2022 09:26 PM (ZMraq)

352 BILLS

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:26 PM (U2p+3)

353 Ironically, using promag magazines for hi points is one of the few ways to avoid your warranty with hi point. Otherwise, hi point service has stellar reviews.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:26 PM (E1b6a)

354 Yeah baby

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:27 PM (U2p+3)

355 Weasel, thanks again for another gun thread. See you and everyone next week!

Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 09:27 PM (NacE+)

356
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:21 PM (E1b6a)
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Thanks whig!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:27 PM (0IeYL)

357 OT: Holy crap, Buffalo...

Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (exHjb)

358 You know, I see a LOT of .50 BMG for sale, even when everything else was like finding-gold-in-Alaska scarce.

Are there that many people that shoot .50 BMG? Or did someone over-produce massively some years ago? Or is there a huge surplus stock for some reason? I know there's a number of guys that shoot it on youtube, but that's not real life.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (A2G/3)

359 350 51 I also quite GOA because (get this) they send you letters with big GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA on the envelope.----
Reminds me of the dildo delivered in a plain brown paper wrapper (the shape is obvious) but the delivery van, sitting at the curbside, has that big torpedo on top with the "AMERICAN SEX TOYS INC." signage.
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:25 PM (qfLjt)
'Does anyone have a flashlight?'
'There's one in the sightstand.'

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (0OP+5)

360 Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (OTzUX)
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My pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (0IeYL)

361 327 thanks for putting that up ri red. Useful info on the magazines.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (E1b6a)

362 Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 09:27 PM (NacE+)
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'Nite, Ed L!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:29 PM (0IeYL)

363 Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (A2G/3)
Production batch overruns at Lake City (DOD ammo factory)?

Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 09:30 PM (NacE+)

364 As always, thanks for the gub Weasel.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 09:30 PM (Xrfse)

365 Thanks, whig. Of course, when I recently acquired my Ruger Precision Rimfire, I asked for the 15-round version.
D'uh.

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:30 PM (12ET2)

366 Think I only have one ProMag mag, for the M1 carbine. Works fine.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (OTzUX)

367 I might smoke a cigar tomorrow. And take Mrs. E out for a steak. Goodnight Weasel and sundry all etc.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (0OP+5)

368 I will forego teeth cleanings, dermatologist visits, oil changes, and trips to Whataburger to buy a SA-35.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:06 PM


Let's not get carried away, there. You are a Texan.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (a3Q+t)

369 Don't watch the NFL anymore but still somewhat dissatisfied Brady lost. Don't know why.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (z8oRC)

370 Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 09:30 PM (Xrfse)
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Happy to do it!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (0IeYL)

371 Great thread Weasel, just as I expected it to be.

I do think some content on carry "systems" (especially concealed carry) and suppliers of components would be well received by the Gun Thread Horde!

Thanks

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (hOUT3)

372 JHFC

Biden is considering sending troops and planes to Ukraine.

What is it with Democrats and wars?


Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (4fSQf)

373 Another great thread, Weasel! Stay safe!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H Lloyd at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (llXky)

374 359, gwb, could be a difficulty in finding ranges that will allow 50 bmg to be fired, along with newer toys. Barrett firearms themselves are expanding their firearm offerings probably due to market saturation.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:32 PM (E1b6a)

375 369 Don't watch the NFL anymore but still somewhat dissatisfied Brady lost. Don't know why.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (z8oRC)

If it makes you feel better, he looked like a GOAT in the 4th quarter, and he didn't lose the game at the end...

Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:32 PM (exHjb)

376 Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (nfrXX)
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Thanks Ob.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:32 PM (0IeYL)

377 Well. Shot.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (U2p+3)

378 Hokey Smokes, Mahomes - Hill!

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (9sjiB)

379
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H Lloyd at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (llXky)
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Thank you AHL.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (0IeYL)

380 How much equipment are we going to accidentally leave the Russians?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2022 09:26 PM (ZMraq)/i]

Be interesting to see how they get the 10% to the Big Guy!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (hOUT3)

381 How do you let Tyreek Hill beat you??

Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (exHjb)

382

Any Americans In Burkina Faso?

Gunfire rang out late Sunday near the home of Burkina Faso's embattled President Roch Marc Christian Kabore, raising the specter that a military coup might still be under way after mutinous soldiers seized a military base earlier in the day.

Do Re Me Faso

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (63Dwl)

383 MAE, please mention a bit more about your cz p07, having a senior moment on that particular model.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (E1b6a)

Sure! The P-07 a polymer frame with the CZ 'inner rails' setup. Takedown is ala the CZ 75. It's NATO spec, 15 round mags in 9mm. You can swap out the 9mm slide and put on a factory .22 adapter (the Kadet). That way you use the same frame, same trigger to run your .22 drills.

Great, great pistol.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (eeRB6)

384 now my balls are really deflated

Posted by: tom brady at January 23, 2022 09:34 PM (KFhLj)

385 365, ri red,
Perfect example of Murphy's law.

Btw, savage just rolled out their own 22 chassis precision rifle based on the savage 64 action.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:34 PM (E1b6a)

386 Last gasp for the Bills.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (Xrfse)

387 Mark I've been thinking that some day I will go into a CZ phase, and get not just the -75 but the -07 that you rave about. Just have the -83 so far (well, 2 of them), they're really nice.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (OTzUX)

388 What is it with Democrats and wars?


Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (4fSQf)

they gotta keep their losing streak intact.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (VwHCD)

389 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (hOUT3)
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Thanks Hrothgar!

Email me your favorite holsters with pics or links and why you like it, and I'll put it all into a thread.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (0IeYL)

390 383, thanks mae, could not remember whether it used the cz75 rail template

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:36 PM (E1b6a)

391 What is it with Democrats and wars?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (4fSQf)


Simple, Democrats don't normally get involved in actual fighting in these wars, but boy can they come up with much needed diversity guidance in war zones!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 09:36 PM (hOUT3)

392 I still use Upper Volta for Burkina Faso.

Hate these modern, fashionable, pretentious names for countries.

"Baby just keep doing the Ougadougou, that you do"

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:36 PM (OTzUX)

393 Bills aren't done yet...and I thought the 1st game's ending was nuts...

Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:37 PM (exHjb)

394 Weasel if you're going to do a list of sources for a holster thread, you might toss in that Andrews Leather one I noted above.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:37 PM (OTzUX)

395 Dissatisfied = Disappointed

Autocorrect seems to want to change my feelings. Not today autocorrect. Not today.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:38 PM (z8oRC)

396 Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:37 PM (OTzUX)
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If you don't mind, can you send me your recommendation and pics or links in an email? Thank you.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:38 PM (0IeYL)

397 Btw, savage just rolled out their own 22 chassis precision rifle based on the savage 64 action.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:34 PM (E1b6a)

Yeah, this .22 competition stuff is just as expensive as bigger guns.
Ain't America great?

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:38 PM (12ET2)

398 Will do, boss.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (OTzUX)

399 wow

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (Xrfse)

400 You know, I see a LOT of .50 BMG for sale, even when everything else was like finding-gold-in-Alaska scarce.

Are there that many people that shoot .50 BMG? Or did someone over-produce massively some years ago? Or is there a huge surplus stock for some reason? I know there's a number of guys that shoot it on youtube, but that's not real life.

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (A2G/3)

I met a dude in the 80's that had bought 2 barrets, so he bought 30,000 rounds of .50. The price at that time? 30 cents a round.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (VwHCD)

401 TD!

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (9sjiB)

402 Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (OTzUX)
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Thanks amigo

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (0IeYL)

403 OMG BILLS!

Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (exHjb)

404 Holster thread?

You can't be serious!

Holster=.45ACP=9mm=Crossbow=Longbow.

If you do it, you're a better man than I am Gunga Din!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (Q9lwr)

405 Gun show this weekend. Good crowds, lots of dealers/sellers. Prices still kind of high but a lot of people were buying. I picked up a couple of .22 rifles - project guns to repair/refurb. Something to wile away the below zero days until spring. No range time 'till March.

Posted by: oldgeezer at January 23, 2022 09:40 PM (Wb5vb)

406 8 catches, 4 TDs for Davis.

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:40 PM (9sjiB)

407 JHFC
Biden is considering sending troops and planes to Ukraine.
What is it with Democrats and wars?
Posted by: AlaBAMA


donks, gotta donk.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 23, 2022 09:40 PM (IJES/)

408 397, firearms are one of the few competitive markets especially in manufactured goods.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:40 PM (E1b6a)

409 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (VwHCD)

You met a very wealthy dude.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (z8oRC)

410 Posted by: oldgeezer at January 23, 2022 09:40 PM (Wb5vb)
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Howdy oldgeezer! Welcome to the Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (0IeYL)

411 rhomboid @392- Yeah, I was kinda partial to Rhodesia and Burma and Ceylon.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (0OP+5)

412 Went to the local Sportsman's Warehouse this weekend and they actually had powder on the shelf! Not a lot, and not a lot of varieties, but they haven't had any on the shelf since 2019. No primers, however, and not a lot of bullet choices.

They also had a fair amount of ammo, and prices seemed to be a bit lower than a few months ago.

Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (F6Xpw)

413 Wow, Bills!

Posted by: IrishEi at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (0TVNF)

414 106 Wounded Warriors did this after they got big. The wife and I used to give them tons of $$$$ but no more after those stories and videos hit of them taking first class flights, buying silk suits and staying in penthouse rooms for events.
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We quit support after they wouldn't take money from gun-connected businesses and churches (or something).

Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (qfLjt)

415 Projecting weakness and many variations of stupid will get you in to wars. Hence Donk results..

Posted by: klaftern at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (taPSh)

416 30K rounds of 50, Berserker? That oughta hold him a while.

I've been slowly slimming down my multi-K stash of 54R, as one doesn't normally go through hundreds of rounds of bolt-action ammo a year. Probably will just keep what I have and see if I can shoot it up over the next 5 years. Not likely.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (OTzUX)

417 What is it with Democrats and wars?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (4fSQf)

They can't perform with their wives (or boyfriends) unless they fantasize about sending American men to their deaths.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (Q9lwr)

418
If you do it, you're a better man than I am Gunga Din!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January


Dude.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (U2p+3)

419 This looks 100% like wag the dog for Biden.

No reason to send troops to Ukraine.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:43 PM (4fSQf)

420 OMG BILLS!

I just now realize that y'all are talking about football. When Nurse posted "BILLS" earlier I thought she was just expressing frustration doing the household bills on a Sunday night.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:43 PM (nfrXX)

421 Mark I've been thinking that some day I will go into a CZ phase, and get not just the -75 but the -07 that you rave about. Just have the -83 so far (well, 2 of them), they're really nice.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (OTzUX)

The CZ's are, hands down, my favorite hammer-fired pistols. They are not perfect, they have quirks, but they are accurate and reliable with great ergonomics.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (eeRB6)

422 Eromero, you meant Southern Rhodesia, surely.

Had a victim from there once (well, her citizenship was a European country, daughter of expats). Great accent.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (OTzUX)

423 Rhomboid, beware dropping a spam can on your foot. I did that with some hxp and lost a toenail.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (E1b6a)

424 Wounded Warriors did this after they got big. The wife and I used to give them tons of $$$$ but no more after those stories and videos hit of them taking first class flights, buying silk suits and staying in penthouse rooms for events.
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We quit support after they wouldn't take money from gun-connected businesses and churches (or something).
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (qfLjM

Semper Fi Fund has been my military charity for a long time. I haven't checked / researched them recently. I really need to do that periodically with my charities .

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (z8oRC)

425 Here's the Marine in NC:

gunnerscustomholsters.biz

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (mwsJy)

426 Great accent.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (OTzUX)

Adorable and sexy. I had an acquaintance from SA who was a six, but her voice was a ten!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 09:45 PM (Q9lwr)

427 OT

Posted by: IrishEi at January 23, 2022 09:45 PM (0TVNF)

428 Overtime

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:45 PM (U2p+3)

429 OT! Dang, what a game!

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (9sjiB)

430 Overtime - this is absolute insanity. How do you let Mahomes gets 40 yards in 13 seconds?

Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (exHjb)

431 The CZ's are, hands down, my favorite hammer-fired pistols. They are not perfect, they have quirks, but they are accurate and reliable with great ergonomics.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

The first time I picked up a 75 SP-01 it was love at first grab.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (mD/uy)

432 They can't perform with their wives (or boyfriends) unless they fantasize about sending American men to their deaths.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (Q9lwr)

You saying Tater and French can't get it up unless they think about manly men fighting?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (4fSQf)

433 Im old enough to remember when Dems were anti war. Good times.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (w7Kx9)

434 whig, the joke about Mosins is don't prop one up against your bench, always lay it down somewhere.

It might fall over - and damage something else in your garage.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (OTzUX)

435 rhomboid @392- Yeah, I was kinda partial to Rhodesia and Burma and Ceylon.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (0OP+5)

And cities. Bombay was a cool name.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (z8oRC)

436 MAE, Even Col. Cooper liked the CZ 75 despite it being chambered in 9mm. That says a lot.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:47 PM (E1b6a)

437 I just now realize that y'all are talking about football. When Nurse posted "BILLS" earlier I thought she was just expressing frustration doing the household bills on a Sunday night.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:43 PM (nfrXX)

That will be in tomorrow night's overnight thread...

Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:47 PM (exHjb)

438 FYI (before the ONT willowing), Black Aces now has a semi-auto "knockoff" of the Mossberg Shockwave. It's tempting me right now... but I really want a 20ga....

Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:47 PM (A2G/3)

439 Chiefs fans were leaving after Bills scored.

Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:48 PM (9sjiB)

440 OK, ONT is up y'all. Thanks for being here. I hope you enjoy the rest of your evening and have a good week. Hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:48 PM (0IeYL)

441 Well, you sure as shit can't have a Myanmar shave.

Posted by: Burma at January 23, 2022 09:48 PM (KFhLj)

442 unless they fantasize about sending American men to their deaths.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

My boy is one of those.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (U2p+3)

443 Damn. Looked at the content. 2 hours later here i am. lol

Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (UGun5)

444 Thanks Weasel! Always a top notch effort.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (4fSQf)

445 The CZ's are, hands down, my favorite hammer-fired pistols. They are not perfect, they have quirks, but they are accurate and reliable with great ergonomics.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

*

I think it was you who directed the horde to the CZ-esque Israeli Jericho 94F a couple of years ago. Even beat up from being thrown in a crate and banged around for 40 years that pistol oozes quality.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (mwsJy)

446 Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (4fSQf)
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Why thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (0IeYL)

447 Mosins really are that solid. The Finns had a specialty in reuse of mosin receivers. I have a couple including a Finn.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:50 PM (E1b6a)

448 oh. Nice hash i had there also.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:50 PM (UGun5)

449 Sounds like both defenses took the night off.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:51 PM (z8oRC)

450 448 oh. Nice hash i had there also.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:50 PM (UGun5)
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Yeah! That's a keeper!

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:51 PM (0IeYL)

451 oh. Nice hash i had there also.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:50 PM (UGun5)

That's awesome. What are the odds?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:51 PM (z8oRC)

452 Nice thread, Weasel.
Distracted a bit with potential future DIL here keeping track of Bills game online.
Night, all!

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:52 PM (12ET2)

453 The CZ's are, hands down, my favorite hammer-fired pistols. They are not perfect, they have quirks, but they are accurate and reliable with great ergonomics.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

I bought one when they first came into the country, around 1985. Its always been a fav of mine. Beautiful trigger.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2022 09:52 PM (VwHCD)

454 whig I don't have a Finn, maybe some day. I've enjoyed my everyday Mosins and of course one reason I got them was not just the history but the prices, which were laughably low - and I was getting into them well *after* the *really* cheap days.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:53 PM (OTzUX)

455 Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:52 PM (12ET2)
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Thanks, bro.

Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:53 PM (0IeYL)

456 187 Side note on revolvers: lead bullets kind of suck. Even in a snubbie, digging all that lead out requires solvents or extra elbow grease.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:15 PM (llXky)


That's the manufacturing of the piece. Shooting cast really requires bore diameters not increase from cylinder/chamber to muzzle.

Cylinders are pretty much gang bored and the holes usually don't match and frequently a a couple thou undersized. Torquing the barrel into the frame often introduces a constriction there. Either or both of these result in a bullet being squeezed down to less than bore diameter and then you get gas cutting and lead deposited ahead of the bullet.

I've fixed that in a couple of revolvers. There's worse ways to spend my time.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 23, 2022 09:53 PM (8C7+r)

457 Upper Volta sounds like an AC/DC album.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 09:54 PM (63Dwl)

458 Thats like Power ball odds.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:55 PM (UGun5)

459 Purely unrelated to anything, but the NY Post had a story about the weapon used against the 2 cops in Harlem. Apparently was a Glock .45, but it had a magazine that dropped down, extended, dangling below that was (ostensibly) a 40 round drum.
Weird.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (jTmQV)

Sorta sounds like the perp was on a mission, and not your normal gang-banger.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 23, 2022 09:57 PM (P3gRi)

460 IMG - main fix is resizing the cylinder chambers, correct?

I get a tolerable level of leading in the Model 66 from lead bullets (just some dry scrubbing with all-copper ChoreBoy wrapped around an old .38 brush), but in my snubs I've opted to go with plated bullets. Laziness, er, efficiency, really.

I actually got a kit to check bore size on the 66, but the damn uneven number of rifling grooves makes measurement challenging. I've tried to regulate leading via charge/pressure, seems to work OK. Same-same with lead in the 1911, 200g SWC standard (like many guys), usually just a bit of lead "wash" near the chamber.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:59 PM (OTzUX)

461 We quit support after they wouldn't take money from gun-connected businesses and churches (or something).
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (qfLjt)


I think Fisher House is honest, but I really need to review that to be sure.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 09:59 PM (hOUT3)

462 I feel like a made man on the gub thread, thanks to my hashtag (smiley emoji here)

Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 10:01 PM (UGun5)

463 I am looking at the thing now trying to see how I might replace that wooden mount with a 3D printed one that incorporates some type of mechanical failsafe. 4/4
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:55 PM (9otr5)

Sounds to me as though you might have a warranty claim against the manufacturer, or else have grounds to void the sale as "not being fit for the purpose for which it was sold".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 23, 2022 10:02 PM (P3gRi)

464 That's awesome. What are the odds?

Pixy could tell us exactly but we can estimate. About 90 printable ASCII characters, 5 character hash, so roughly 90^5 or just short of 6 million. So much better than our odds of winning the Powerball on any given day.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 10:02 PM (nfrXX)

465 feel like a made man on the gub thread, thanks to my hashtag (smiley emoji here)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 10:01 PM (UGun5)

Except, it should be UGun50. Or maybe the 5 is guns above water.
Goodnight, all!

Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 10:03 PM (12ET2)

466 Purely unrelated to anything, but the NY Post had a story about the weapon used against the 2 cops in Harlem. Apparently was a Glock .45, but it had a magazine that dropped down, extended, dangling below that was (ostensibly) a 40 round drum.

*

Probably saved a dozen cops lives by using that massively unreliable drum magazine in an already illegal firearm possessed by a felon in the act of murder.

Quick, Democrats. Ban those magazines so that only reliable ones are available for criminals.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 10:04 PM (mwsJy)

467 Weasel, great thread as usual; I continue my track record of getting here after the fireworks are over.

But I do learn things here. Thanks.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 23, 2022 10:05 PM (F0YaR)

468 You bet! I think it's sold as reptile bedding, and you can buy a 20# sack for what you would spend on 3 oz. at the gun store.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:14 PM (0IeYL)

Ground walnut shell is used a lot as an additive to drilling mud, so one can buy large sacks from oilfield supply dealers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 23, 2022 10:08 PM (P3gRi)

469 In another time this would be a bizarre story -

Truck carrying 100 CDC test monkeys crashed. CDC keeping an eye out for local residents exhibiting zombie like symptoms (last part may be made up)

- gatewaypundit (so you know is true)

Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 23, 2022 10:15 PM (j8ZL7)

470 56 I'm still on the hunt for my "unicorn"--the new Springfield Armory SA-35. Its their updated take on the Browning Hi-Power. Haven't found one in person yet, only glowing online reviews and empty stock when checking brick and mortar stores and online sites.

Very late on this thread but it seems that the hangup on availability could be a problem with the extractor failing after about 1000 rounds. People who have sent them back to Springield get a new extractor and no further problems. They may be replacing the extractor on manufactured ones before shipping which would explain the delays and they don't want to tell people that.

Posted by: Azjaeger at January 23, 2022 10:20 PM (3/XaG)

471 I looked it up.Rev. Simon Woodman of Bloomsbury Central Baptist Church. I have never seen Baptist clergymen wear collars but maybe they do things differently in England. Bloomsbury in London was always the center of progressivism in England and if you read their website they are very left wing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2022 10:31 PM (QzPUP)

472 351 Sweet fucking Christmas...
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/499151/
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 09:20 PM (6q/S1)

How much equipment are we going to accidentally leave the Russians?
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Don't know. The Russians haven't dropped off their requirements list yet.

Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 10:33 PM (qfLjt)

473 426 Great accent.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (OTzUX)

Adorable and sexy. I had an acquaintance from SA who was a six, but her voice was a ten!
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I'm probably not adorable and definitely not sexy but everyone seems to love my accent - I spent 16 odd years in East Africa and another 26 in South Africa.
LOL

Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 10:51 PM (qfLjt)

474 Gray! The lightbox overlay needs to be GRAY! The green overlay imparts way too much of a color cast, whereas the GRAY (hint, hint) is NEUTRAL and allows the natural color of the gun to be seen as it should be, not with an imparted color from the plastic overlay. GRAY! GRAY! All the way! GRAY!

Posted by: Dr_No at January 23, 2022 11:57 PM (mu5GU)

475 392 I still use Upper Volta for Burkina Faso.

Hate these modern, fashionable, pretentious names for countries.

"Baby just keep doing the Ougadougou, that you do"
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:36 PM (OTzUX)

Changed it's name on August 4, 1984.
Anytime I see mention of this country I am reminded (yet again) of (yes, I'm beating a horse to death) my fourth-grade teacher. A big "international day" was coming up in school and as part of it, we all had to write book reports on various countries. I was assigned Upper Volta. I immediately corrected my teacher and said it was "Bourkina Fasso" (the way it was spelled in my almanac at the time). Did she immediately kick my ass for doing that? No. Hell, I think she gave me extra credit.

To the topic at hand: a range visit looms in the near future. Things are pretty dismal in Catch Thirty-Thr33 land so I need the break. A Zen moment. A time to focus and recalibrate my brain. Range time forces you into focus.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 24, 2022 12:38 AM (CdZ4i)

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