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69% Disapprove Of How Applesauce Brain is Handling Inflation
By the way, the headline for ABC "News'" tweet for this was about approval for Biden's handling of the "economic recovery."
Have you ever seen a poll question about the economy reported that way -- editorialized to be about a "recovery"? No, you haven't. This is the first time. They always just say "the economy," neutrally. They never editorialize and cast the economy in positive or negative terms when reporting poll findings about approval for the economy. Until now, of course. Because Biden asked his media friends to please put a positive spin on his disaster economy, and they complied. But by the way, the public does not approve of his handling of "the economic recovery."President Joe Biden is facing significant skepticism from the American public, with his job approval rating lagging across a range of major issues, including new lows for his handling of crime, gun violence and the economic recovery, a new ABC/Ipsos poll finds.They did it again! They did it again!
More than two-thirds of Americans (69%) disapprove of how Biden is handling inflation (only 28% approve) while more than half (57%) disapprove of his handling of the economic recovery.And again! Guys, I think they really want us to know that they're classifying this as a "recovery." Do you feel recovered?
Partisan splits for inflation show expected negativity in Republican views (94% disapproving), but the survey also reveals weaknesses from Biden's own party with only a slim majority of Democrats (54%) approving. Biden's orbit is also hemorrhaging independent voters, with 71% disapproving of his handling of inflation. ... The findings show Biden slightly above water in one sector: his handling of COVID-19. A slim majority (53%) of Americans approve of Biden's handling of the pandemic. Even so, Biden's COVID approval rating is now numerically at its lowest point in ABC/Ipsos polling since he took office, another warning sign for what might be a tough battle to maintain majorities in the U.S. House and Senate.Only a bare majority -- 51% -- still support his vaccine mandates. Seven in ten allegedly think that mask mandates should remain in place -- or be more strict. If you don't believe that -- and I don't -- consider what the real numbers should be for the rest of these questions.
Biden also sees lagging support for his handling of rising rates of violence in many places across the county. As the national murder rates see historic jumps, only a little more than 1 in 3 Americans (36%) approve of Biden's handling of crime, down from 43% in an ABC News/Ipsos poll in late October. Similarly, approval of Biden's handling of gun violence is 32%, down from 39% in the October poll. That figure shrinks among nonpartisans with only 1 in 4 independents approving of Biden's work on gun violence.Note that this poll doesn't even measure his overall job approval -- did they just flinch from even asking the question, or is it so low they don't want to report it?
99 The ABC News report is even more fake news, in one respect. They completely omit the survey's numbers on POOTUS' handling of immigration: Approve 34%/Disapprove 63%. It's actually a little better (?!) than the previous period, which was 31/68, so ABC could have mentioned that, but chose not to.Biden says the problem with his poll numbers is just covid and misinformation. Chuck Todd says the problem is the persistence of both covid and Donald Trump, and neither is "Joe Biden's fault."
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Biden’s low approval is Trump’s fault. @ChuckTodd frets: “Some of it is out of their control....His two big promises were to get COVID behind us and to get rid of Donald Trump. COVID’s not behind us and Trump’s still lurking. It’s not his fault.” #MTP pic.twitter.com/BPnVf8Ux3q
— Brent Baker (@BrentHBaker) December 12, 2021
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Flyguy at December 13, 2021 12:34 PM (3sOO0)
Posted by: 496 at December 13, 2021 12:34 PM (VJsqe)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 12:34 PM (m+jkK)
"But we got the tranny vote down, so we should be fine in Martha's Vineyard."
-The DNC's consultancy
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 13, 2021 12:35 PM (ZSsrh)
One quart cream, one quart milk , one dozen tablespoons sugar, one pint brandy, 1/2 pint rye whisky, 1/2 pint Jamaica rum, 1/4 pint sherry.
1. Mix liquor first;
2. Then throw out that other shit;
3. Drink.
Posted by: George Washington
Posted by: Sharkman at December 13, 2021 12:35 PM (Avnu4)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (SWV0+)
FJB
Posted by: Cosda at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (W3V1O)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (bNf8H)
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Of course it is. If it weren't for the hoarders and wreckers at Qanon, he's be polling at 80% or better.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: 496 at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (VJsqe)
So it's not his fault that he failed to achieve the two things he promised to do? Gotcha.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (wmDcS)
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COVID has been one of his strengths his entire presidency.
That he's blaming covid instead of the border, the economy, foreign policy, regulation, or any social issue is interesting.
I think it's a huge signal (at least the second major signal in a few months) that the media needs to drop covid now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (LvTSG)
Biden flunkies: Hey, you from ABC, your nose isn't completely up Joe's butthole. Get cracking!
ABC: on it, boss.
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (SWV0+)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM
Good afternoon, fellow Moron.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (W+kMI)
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (9gDA7)
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (9gDA7)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (SWV0+)
Meat gazing.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (weH4U)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (Rl7KJ)
So what are you saying Todd? That Biden should have murdered Trump? Thrown him in prison for imaginary crimes?
These people are insane.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (k4dH2)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM
Jerking.
*makes Shake Weight motion*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (m+jkK)
So it's not his fault that he failed to achieve the two things he promised to do? Gotcha.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (wmDcS)
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He overpromised and underdelivered.
He should consult with corporations on how to blame your customers for bad product launches. Start with CD Projekt RED in its cleanup of Cyberpunk 2077.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (LvTSG)
ABC: on it, boss.
Also ABC: "why don't people trust us?"
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (xqRaG)
The only reason they could give: Q.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (22DzM)
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (Ez6QX)
28% of people approve of their food and living costing more than last year? I posit that at least 28% of this poll is taken from the DC area, the land of the economy that never shrinks.
Posted by: Flyguy at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (3sOO0)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (trdmm)
So what are you saying Todd? That Biden should have murdered Trump? Thrown him in prison for imaginary crimes?
These people are insane.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2021 12:37 PM (k4dH2)
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Either he wishes Trump would have gone away like W did, or he wishes the House Committee on January 6th would just throw Trump in jail already.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (uhPTO)
- CNBC
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (ku5On)
It's pretty simple actually.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (bVYXr)
But, they are never wrong, just ask them.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (jTmQV)
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (ZSsrh)
THIS. and btw this is not fake. he really and truly cares about this issue, in the way I can only wish that other physicians would please please please start doing. because I'm angry at HC workers at the moment and I'd like to see them stop being cowards. any time now guys!
Posted by: Black Orchid the Unboosted at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (SWV0+)
Posted by: ace at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (0G13K)
Record low unemployment across the board, lower taxes on lower to middle class earners, higher salaries, high consumer confidence and overall American exceptionalism........
We need to recover from that? The hangover from all the partying, maybe....
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (9gDA7)
It's like that idiot, Jim Cramer saying, "the economy is a juggernaut."
Posted by: Seems Legit at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (txdEq)
A pox on both of their halfwit intellects.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (BPuaD)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (V6f9+)
"Is Criticizing Joe Biden a Danger to Democracy?
As concerns mount over the future of free and fair elections, a debate has broken out about whether the media must protect Biden to save the republic."
Ladies and Gents, this is how you get Pravda and the Gulag.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (Avnu4)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (K3ZCc)
You hear what you're saying, right?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (W+kMI)
If the Democrats were smart - and they're not, they're just ruthless - they'd tackle it right now. Pressure the Fed to start moving interest rates up and start cutting spending. Back off of BBB and start fighting inflation. They will lose the midterms if they do this, but they're very likely to lose the midterms anyway. If they pull it off, it'll be a midterm bloodbath but inflation will be in the rearview mirror by the time the next general comes along.
But they won't do this because it isn't compatible with their ambitions. So they're going to go harder and harder in the current direction. Then they will lose the general and that gives the next administration two years - three at the outside - to fix the problem. If it can't, the government will likely fail.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (bA3Ln)
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (9gDA7)
And by "gun violence" they mean "skyrocketing murder rates in Democrat-run cities aided by Soros-backed DAs simply turning right back onto the streets and refusing to prosecute actual criminals".
Posted by: Bert G at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (cXCH3)
I'm not mean. I'm mischievous and scampish, like Prince.
Posted by: Obama's Dick at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (ZSsrh)
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I never said they got into the situation through intelligence or even cunning, but the stark reality at this point is that Biden's presidency is continuing to fail because of covid as one of the two primary reasons (the other being inflation).
But Democrats completely broke their base psychologically regarding covid through safetyism. Their base cannot let go. Oregon teachers forcing small children to eat distanced outside in 40 degree temperatures because of covid fears is not the action of a people in control of their reasoning faculties.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (44ww/)
He should consult with corporations on how to blame your customers for bad product launches. Start with CD Projekt RED in its cleanup of Cyberpunk 2077.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (LvTSG)
Oh, absolutely. I keep thinking that this is sorta like a political version of The Producers, where they didn't expect him to win, so they made far too many promises to ever be kept.
Actually, the reality is that they probably expected to waltz in, issue a few edicts, and have everything turn out fine. Biden was supposed to be taking a victory lap after successful mandates, BBB, and the Afghanistan withdrawal. He'd give his SOTU and be set up to retire while being heralded as the greatest president in 100 years.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (wmDcS)
You hear what you're saying, right?
I think we may be at the point where everyone pretty much admits that the Dems stole the 2020 elections.
Posted by: Black Orchid the Unboosted at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (j9HX3)
Record low unemployment across the board, lower taxes on lower to middle class earners, higher salaries, high consumer confidence and overall American exceptionalism........
We need to recover from that? The hangover from all the partying, maybe....
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM
We're recovering from what the Covidiots did to the above.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (ZsR3z)
28% of people approve of their food and living costing more than last year? I posit that at least 28% of this poll is taken from the DC area, the land of the economy that never shrinks.
Posted by: Flyguy at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (3sOO0)
remember that at this point, these polls are like 'Hey Democrats! Do you still support the Democrat Party?" and somewhere around a third of the country will say "yes" to that no matter what.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (trdmm)
When even CNN cannot help but note that food prices are higher than ever, its not going over well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (KZzsI)
they absolutely believe their own bullshit.
Posted by: Black Orchid the Unboosted at December 13, 2021 12:42 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: Dick Durbin at December 13, 2021 12:42 PM (SWV0+)
Posted by: NR Pax at December 13, 2021 12:42 PM (4olE8)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (wmDcS)
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His administration are midwit Millennial Twitter addicts at best.
They can't do anything but screw up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:42 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (LvTSG)
Be careful what you wish for. Next thing you know you have mods to make congress nude on CSPAN.
Posted by: Flyguy at December 13, 2021 12:42 PM (3sOO0)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (LvTSG)
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They *are* blaming the customer. It's you, you filthy and unvaxxed bastard who's all hung on your "rights" and shit, who are causing the problem.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:42 PM (DU+/6)
That is the most ridiculous thing to say, but say it he did.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (raQcc)
A pox on both of their halfwit intellects.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (BPuaD)
Worst episode of Call the Midwits, ever.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (uhPTO)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (cSs/W)
Record low unemployment across the board, lower taxes on lower to middle class earners, higher salaries, high consumer confidence and overall American exceptionalism........
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And don't forget energy independence, low gas prices, and a much more secure border.
The things Trump did to this country! Will we ever recover???
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (k4dH2)
Where's the "disaster" of an economy? By what metric? I hate President F Joe Biden as much as the next conservative, but without hard data this is just rhetoric. The stock market is on fire. Earnings season was strong. Despite threats of supply problems and shortages and no holiday presents, that hasn't happened.
Yes, inflation is an issue and if left unchecked will become a real problem. But we've seen little signs of Jimmy Carter's "stagflation" -- stagnation coupled with inflation -- and interest rates remain low.
So while there are cracks in the economy, I don't think it's fair to call it a "disaster." And 90% of the cracks can be healed by getting rid of all the stupid CV19 restrictions and stopping printing endless money.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (iFTx/)
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It's quite simple. We're recovering from prosperity.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (FVME7)
at church yesterday, i was no longer the only unmasked; there were maybe a dozen of us.
most of the masked have taken to wearing their masks below their noses; even the fellow who was extra paranoid because he's received a heart transplant.
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (oY6Yp)
Trump lurks.
He's probably midway between pouncing and lurking, so stalking and circling for the kill.
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:42 PM (DU+/6)
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I'm sure he's ready to punish noted blue states Texas and Florida for slowing the economic growth of the whole country down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at December 13, 2021 12:44 PM (V6f9+)
That's an, uh, interesting take. He promised to do two things, failed on both and... somehow that's not his fault?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:44 PM (KZzsI)
This is about me, isn't it.
Posted by: Dick Durbin at December 13, 2021 12:42 PM (SWV0+)
Heh, at least I don't suck.
Posted by: Jeffery Tubin at December 13, 2021 12:44 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Mr Gaga at December 13, 2021 12:44 PM (n6TuV)
OOOOOOOOOHHHHHH
well that makes sense! yeah pep he's definitely like that - Fetterman is - like a cannibal serial killer from the family in Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Posted by: Black Orchid the Unboosted at December 13, 2021 12:44 PM (j9HX3)
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He's the chief advisor for the Hiden junta.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2021 12:44 PM (W+kMI)
Posted by: Hillary at December 13, 2021 12:44 PM (SWV0+)
Posted by: Don Lemon at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (22DzM)
It is fairly close to that already, by historic standards.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (raQcc)
What would check it? The fed raising rates, which they will not do, ever? And if they do do it, what would happen then?
Posted by: ace at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
How can he do that? The Covid Karens won't allow it.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (uXonU)
Posted by: old chick at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (sOete)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM
Not at all. More like the opposite. The problem, to them, is not COVID, it's COVID "misinformation". That's a signal to media and social media to ramp up the censorship of "misinformation" and ramp up the demonizing of the "unvaxxed". And continue on with their censoring of information about the dangers, side effects and deaths across the world due to the "vaccines". And look at the message coming from Democrats like Washington Governor Solis, who said the "unvaxxed" are like domestic terrorists walking around with backbacks with time bombs. We have gone full speed from "we're all in this together" to "the unvaxxed are domestic terrorists".
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 13, 2021 12:46 PM (ZSsrh)
Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at December 13, 2021 12:46 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
How can he do that? The Covid Karens won't allow it.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (uXonU)
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That's the problem. It's policy by Twitter. All it does is make more enemies while barely keeping your own craziest supports not all that angry at you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:46 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (wmDcS)
If you look at what dems were saying, they thought they could pass the BBB within 100 days, and then they could start pumping out cash and everyone would love them because they were all getting paid. And then Covid would end (because they wanted it to) and a "Miracle" economic rebound recovery would begin at the end of summer. And there was going to be no inflation because their Economic Theories said there wouldn't be.
That was the plan. If you notice Schumer is getting desperate to pass the BBB before they leave town for Christmas; I don't think he can. Everyone appears to understand that if it slips into the next year unpassed, it's dead. *Narrator's Voiceover: "It's Dead, Jim."*
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 12:46 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 13, 2021 12:46 PM (klPiX)
What Trump did, which the Dems will never, ever do. Just having Democrats in power causes economic contraction out of fear of what the hell will come next.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:46 PM (KZzsI)
And the idiotic electorate that made him possible will remain, like an anchor around a drowning man's neck. A populace so illiterate and easily manipulated that they don't laugh when asked how a public official is "managing" an epidemic that will run its course regardless of human action.
Did they forget to ask the public about their views of Biden's gravity policies? How about his handling of tectonic plate movement?
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2021 12:47 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 12:47 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: ace at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (0G13K)
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Nothing bad, right? I mean, so what if, all of a sudden, we can't afford the interest on our oversized national debt. We still got that trillion-dollar coin we can produce.
*Where's the damn sarcasm button when you need it*
Posted by: 496 at December 13, 2021 12:47 PM (VJsqe)
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Do you really think such silly things? Is it your avocation or is this your profession?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2021 12:47 PM (raQcc)
Posted by: Jeffery Tubin
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That's only because your dick is too small and your gut is too big to allow you to bend over and do it.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2021 12:47 PM (k4dH2)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2021 12:47 PM (I2/tG)
What do they want him to do, kill him? I mean suicide him? Rhetorical question I guess.
Posted by: brak at December 13, 2021 12:47 PM (2Zdu0)
Yes, inflation is an issue and if left unchecked will become a real problem. But we've seen little signs of Jimmy Carter's "stagflation" -- stagnation coupled with inflation -- and interest rates remain low. ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (iFTx/)
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It sure is happening upstream. My company for one (high tech datacenter products) is on the razor's edge over supply chain problems. We can't get parts. Semiconductors (NAND memories especially) are increasingly hard to come by, with major suppliers not delivering on time or budget. We're making parts substitutions that are shockingly expensive to handle repairs and replacements (including replacing things in pairs even if only part fails because we can't get matching parts). The supply chain issues are real and significant upstream.
And as for the latter, we do have stagflation right now. Ostensibly real GDP growth is running about 2%, but inflation is also being understated. It's likely flat or mildly receding. Employment is still down, too. Unemployment is down, but so is participation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (DU+/6)
Covid inflation is there, as production was destroyed and supply chains broke down.
But, Covid spending, riots etc also increase inflation
Posted by: jeff at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (nf4HY)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (Do5/p)
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If they think elections never matter again, then maybe, except that bad polls wouldn't bother them. They're acting like elections do matter and they need the big win they thought would be a layup, hit the vaccination goals and just declare victory, leading to increased political support in the Senate to pass BBB.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Jen Psaki at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (SWV0+)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (m0zqP)
If the media stops obsessing over it, the government stops doing PSA's on it, and funding them, then the Karens can weep and moan all they want but it won't be the dominant culture any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (KZzsI)
Chuck Todd says a lot of shit, mostly because that's what he's paid to do, and also because he's a boot licking sycophant like 95% of the other media.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (fLri9)
There is no variant... it's just COVID wasn't that bad in the past year anyway, but the Karens can't give it up.
Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 12:46 PM (trdmm)
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That scoring of the bill seems to have killed the tiny chance that Manchin was going to vote for it.
I don't even think Romney will save them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 13, 2021 12:46 PM
I honestly think they can't. They've legitimately terrified half of their base. I see it up here every day. They can't just switch it off.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (m+jkK)
While the exact contents of the meeting, which lasted two hours, remains unknown, Lammy reports that the issues of media and campaign funding were both prominently discussed.
Posted by: SMOD at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (RHGPo)
"Is Criticizing Joe Biden a Danger to Democracy?
As concerns mount over the future of free and fair elections, a debate has broken out about whether the media must protect Biden to save the republic."
Ladies and Gents, this is how you get Pravda and the Gulag.
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Yeah, right, this is clickbait diversion crap for the Leftard Choir. When the junta decides they need a new front man/front ho, Biden will get retired, and the Media will get their approved buzzword bullet points to parrot. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, except he/she/they/it won't be a placeholding potato.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (W+kMI)
Posted by: Clueless Joe Biden at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (Is14Z)
Playing the Wizard of Oz by trying to hide inflation behind the curtain to pretend it isn't there is insulting. Like, "bend over and pick up that quarter" insulting.
Only mouth-breathing Democrats are that stupid.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 13, 2021 12:46 PM (ZSsrh)
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I kinda think they wanted to do exactly this, but they lost control (and probably lost it in about August of '20). They broke entire populations and turned them into obsessed, freaked-out, terrified head cases. They might not be able to stop what they started.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (aJ8Xd)
Otherwise, I'm sure they would have asked about Biden's handling of "the Covid recovery?"
Posted by: Lrrr at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (0UY8O)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (DJFLF)
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Ronnie Milsap at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (flINI)
Posted by: ace at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (0G13K)
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The only other check is rising productivity, and 40 year low productivity numbers are underappreciated as a cause of inflation (imo).
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (raQcc)
Posted by: In before the troll at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (K3ZCc)
Maybe he has a prehensile uvula
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: Mark at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (/IrDf)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (m0zqP)
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He can shut his fucking yap when it comes to hot-button cases like Rittenhouse and Smollet. Try not to fan the flames. He can also designate ANTIFA a terror outfit.
Posted by: 496 at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (VJsqe)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (K3ZCc)
If the media stops obsessing over it, the government stops doing PSA's on it, and funding them, then the Karens can weep and moan all they want but it won't be the dominant culture any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (KZzsI)
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They're so top down that it's fascinating that they can't pull it off because it really strikes me that the Biden administration really just wants the political win of defeating covid, which Trump couldn't do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: IC - #FJB at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (hV9ir)
Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon.
Droolin' Joe's minions at the Fed juiced the money supply 40% last year.
Posted by: Zombie Milton Friedman! at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (I2/tG)
The fact is that what "they" say just doesn't matter anymore. People tune them out because they assume the policy is politically driven. The danger is that even when the policy makes sense, the promoters are now so damaged, nobody listens.
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (ZsR3z)
Someone died of the "omicron variant" in England!1!!!1! Out of nearly 72,000,000 people!!!!!1!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:51 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: ace at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (0G13K)
Ooh, ooh, teacher, I know!
All of the FedGov's budget would go toward interest service on the national debt!
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 13, 2021 12:51 PM (cSs/W)
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at December 13, 2021 12:51 PM (vnze2)
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 13, 2021 12:51 PM (nxdel)
I missed this story. Do you have a link?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 13, 2021 12:51 PM (SWV0+)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (m+jkK)
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So influenced by the dominant culture with memories of insects, they'd leave covid behind in a month at most if the media simply stopped reporting on new variants and case numbers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:51 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (raQcc)
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Time will tell on that one. Productivity skyrocketed at the start of the COVID madness, so some of the declines might be mean-reversion. My fear, however, is that it isn't mean-reversion but a secular trend and that will be devastating.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:51 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (FVME7)
Because he's one of the Tiny Few willing to stand up in public and say that this Covid scam is Bullshit and that Fauci should reason.
How many of our "solid" Gop representatives are terrified to do the same?
I would like to see a link to these statements.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (DJFLF)
Posted by: paleRider at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (3cGpq)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (cSs/W)
And 90% of the cracks can be healed by getting rid of all the stupid CV19 restrictions and stopping printing endless money.
Posted by: Elric Blade
And if I found a billion dollars I'd be a billionaire.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (63Dwl)
They're like the meme of the guy looking at two buttons:
[ ] End Covid panic
[ ] Maintain nearly unlimited executive power
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (KZzsI)
nonsense. if they were going to use omicron to give up on covid, they'd be pushing it as the organic free-range vaccine instead of telling us we'll need a three-shot round of new borcesters to deal with it.
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Mean Tweets at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (BOJAx)
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (y7DUB)
Playing the Wizard of Oz by trying to hide inflation behind the curtain to pretend it isn't there is insulting. Like, "bend over and pick up that quarter" insulting.
Only mouth-breathing Democrats are that stupid.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (VpIIl)
Bloomberg is just as bad. A couple of weeks ago, I was listening to Surveillance, their AM radio segment. They had Bloomberg's own head of fixed income research on to talk about inflation. They guy had the nerve to say that we could have this 'transitory' inflationary period for the next 2.5 - 3 years (?!!). I thought that 'transitory' meant a handful of months, not from now to the end of POOTUS' term. What a shill.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (klPiX)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (wmDcS)
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He's the chief advisor for the Hiden junta.
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Obama is playing with the Biden Remote Control. If Biden doesn't do as ordered Hunter goes to prison. Its like clean energy.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (bA3Ln)
That's not a joke!
Posted by: Swaggering Joe at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (BPuaD)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
You think yankee states are going to just give up that kind of control voluntarily?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (uXonU)
I posted a link on the Art Thread to Unvaxxed in Germany being lined up against a wall. By the police.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (DJFLF)
Posted by: Catherine
They love the control. Someone here posted recently, Orwell? Someone. The point of power is power. Which was new to me, as I always thought the point of power was money/maybe women if we are talking about Hollywood/Cuomo brothers.
They want more and more power.
Posted by: MikeM at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (qt8uo)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Another beautiful day in Wokistan at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (TxTNe)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:51 PM (KZzsI)
So you're telling me there's a chance?
Posted by: Lloyd Christmas at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (uhPTO)
Posted by: Erik In Texas at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (Nh1Tg)
Air-dropping another five trillion fake dollar bills into it.
Posted by: President and Genius Ron Klain at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: China Joe at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (BOJAx)
Next spring: Dandelion soup.
Follow Joe for more Build Back Better recipes!
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (SWV0+)
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 13, 2021 12:38 PM (Ez6QX)
Wait until the Chicago dead and Dominion voting machines turn against him.
Funny thing is...back in the day Congressional parasites would turn against a severely unpopular President of their own party to try and shield themselves from the blowback. That seems to be another thing lost to time.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (U7wke)
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I don't think the politicians did the steal themselves, they had the election stolen on their behalf and probably don't want to know what the real result would have been. It's happier for them to believe Biden actually got 81 M votes.
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (KZzsI)
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This is their actual "strategy."
Posted by: Seems Legit at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (DcKNO)
What would check it? The fed raising rates, which they will not do, ever? And if they do do it, what would happen then? Posted by: ace at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (0G13K)
Joe Mannix and I (and others) were discussing this at the end of last week. They *need* to start raising interest rates now, but Jerome Powell is an even bigger idiot than William Miller was (Jimmy Carter's first Fed Chairman) Because of a total lack of leadership anywhere in DC right now, it will probably be May before anyone realizes we're really in trouble and we need to act.
BUT by then the Midterms will be in full swing, and *everyone* knows that raising interest rates during an election campaign kills whoever is in power, so there is going to be *huge* political pressure to do nothing till after the election - which will guarantee *massive* accelerating inflation all next year. If this plays out, I think it's realistic to expect price increases of 2 - 3 per cent *per month* by next fell. (annualized 24% - 36% inflation, the worst this country has ever seen)
we're already at 15% annualized, when measured honestly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (trdmm)
Nonsense. Puddin Head and Democrats fully own the current inflation.
There may have been years of people seeing this coming- and thinking we could avoid it. But the giant stimulus that let people (still) sit on their asses and the trillions they pumped into states and other Democrat Party beneficiaries have put this in high gear. There are textbook responses to inflation. Huge amounts of wasteful spending, destroying our energy industry and disincentives to work are pouring gasoline on the fire
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (VpIIl)
I don't even think Romney will save them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM
Last I read was sienema was not going to vote for it either.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (bVYXr)
That's the problem, getting those governors to back down off the permanent emergency status that gives them absolute power.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (KZzsI)
I rate that 3 out of 5 Moo Moos.
Posted by: Dwor
nasdaq is 16,000, it was 12 a year ago so
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (K3ZCc)
nonsense. if they were going to use omicron to give up on covid, they'd be pushing it as the organic free-range vaccine instead of telling us we'll need a three-shot round of new borcesters to deal with it.
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 13, 2021 12:52 PM (v3pYe)
Believe me, they are so angry at the doctor from South Africa that said that, in a country with only 35% vaccination levels, Moronic was nothing more than a mild cold. Completely messed up their messaging. Listening to them dance around that these days is anger-inducing, and discouraging regarding the objectivity of the scientific community.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (klPiX)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (flINI)
Actually, if the media reported what Biden and his fellow Democrats were doing to this country, his poll numbers would be at an 89% disapproval rating.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (NpAcC)
Planned Parenthood Action
@PPact
Know this: The impact of abortion restrictions falls hardest on those who already face discriminatory obstacles to health care. We can't let this continue to happen. If we':re going to build an equitable society, we have to stop abortion bans.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)
-The DNC's consultancy
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
Until DeSantis floods MV with illegal aliens
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (vkS2Z)
Posted by: IanDeal at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (lry7e)
Posted by: 496 at December 13, 2021 12:36 PM (VJsqe)
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Better yet, Niedermeyer impotently screaming, "Faggots! Faggots!" at his hapless ROTC guys.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (DnWKq)
Planned Parenthood Action
@PPact
Know this: The impact of abortion restrictions falls hardest on those who already face discriminatory obstacles to health care. We can't let this continue to happen. If we':re going to build an equitable society, we have to stop abortion bans.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)
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Translation: "We love killing black babies."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:56 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 13, 2021 12:56 PM (aW5/6)
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 12:56 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Sundown Joe Biden, My Diaper Runneth Over at December 13, 2021 12:56 PM (raQcc)
Next spring: Dandelion soup.
The Stalingrad Diet!
Posted by: Josef Stalin at December 13, 2021 12:56 PM (SWV0+)
Nor Tester.
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 12:56 PM (ZsR3z)
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They seem to be acting like elections matter.
Weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:57 PM (LvTSG)
They need to include the questions:
* Do you prefer anarchy, mob rule, dictatorship or a Constitutional Republic?
* How many scientific studies support masks as an effective public form of protection against viruses: all studies, between 50 and 100, between 10 and 50, 10 or fewer or none?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 12:57 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 13, 2021 12:57 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report
Meh. I got a thirty day jail sentence from Fb for saying "hang the jury" in regards to Rittenhouse.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2021 12:57 PM (uXonU)
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 13, 2021 12:57 PM (H8QX8)
@PPact
Know this: The impact of abortion restrictions falls hardest on those who already face discriminatory obstacles to health care. We can't let this continue to happen. If we':re going to build an equitable society, we have to stop abortion bans.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)
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Translation: "We love killing black babies."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:56 PM
Literally the purpose for founding planned parenthood.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 12:57 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: Just Wondering at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (W77g8)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (flINI)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM
And it ain't cool bein' no silly goose this close to Christmas.
Posted by: Big Black Guy in cell #4 on the 9th floor at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (DnWKq)
Posted by: Boneless Pork Rectum (R-Utah) at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (raQcc)
Yeeesh.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: T
the thing is that is offensive to tards
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (DnWKq)
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They pulled even sometime this morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM (LvTSG)
Anyone who maintains that the stock market (which has seen hundreds of billions of dollars injected into it by the Fed starting last year) has any relation to the actual economy is a silly goose.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Whenever a Repub is in charge the media says a high stock market only helps rich people.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (bA3Ln)
There are other Democratic senators from red states who quietly oppose the bill, but they are willing to let Manchin and Sinema take the heat for opposing it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (I2/tG)
Very soon they'll be dragging out the "he pulled us back from the brink" line.
Remember that bullshit from obama?
Just a month into obama's first term, they already started saying obama "pulled the economy from the brink" of a depression. Meanwhile, obama was making the economy worse for 3 years from 2009-2011.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (5atWK)
I posted a link on the Art Thread to Unvaxxed in Germany being lined up against a wall. By the police.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (DJFLF)
What about the undervaxxed? The ones who haven't visited their local Big Pharma cartel outpost to get a "bump"?
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (mZUr4)
Republicans pounce.
Trump lurks.
Posted by: ace at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (0G13K)
The nickname I was given in college was "Lurkey". A combination of my "observing" more than participating, and penchant for Wild Turkey. I think more to the point - I never got caught.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (ZZK0E)
No, literally. That is exactly why it was created by Margaret Sanger: to kill "undesirables"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Captain PTO at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (BPuaD)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 13, 2021 12:55 PM (klPiX)
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I heard today that 1 person finally died of omicron covid in the UK. So the worldwide death toll is 1.
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report
I think the thorazine finally took hold.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (uXonU)
There are other Democratic senators from red states who quietly oppose the bill, but they are willing to let Manchin and Sinema take the heat for opposing it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (I2/tG)
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Gotta get them past the Democratic primaries without drawing a well-funded progressive antagonist while maintaining their moderate bonafides for the rubes back home.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Ordin
it is even more wrng when it is understood you meant morse
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (K3ZCc)
33% inflation!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (LvTSG)
I think the Stock Market is a good measure of how much free cash is floating around the system looking for a place to park for a while. Nothing more than that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (03BbD)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (trdmm)
Oh boy...A real Fed Chairman would have raised rates before inflation accelerated. It is far too late, and everyone knows it.
There is an argument that interest rates should be about the rate of inflation.
Imagine what a 14% rate would do to the federal budget!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (Q9lwr)
Leaving aside the fraud, and just considering actual people who actually vote, people who vote will continue voting Democrat, and people who vote Republican will continue to vote Republican. No matter what. Doesn't matter if his candidate has a platform plank explicitly demanding the repeated violent rapes of his family members. He's still going to vote for him. Because this is a civic religion, and the faithful come to church.
The weather on election day has more impact than a candidate's policy positions or job performance.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (2ABQr)
Posted by: Megthered at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (sfWd9)
Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 13, 2021 12:56 PM (aW5/6)
I doubt that would've happened. Being a retard isn't a recent phenomenon for him.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: wth at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (xqRaG)
Probably >78 and 4 co morbidities!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (yrol0)
Remember the endless Summers of Recovery in which there was no recovery until Trump took office?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (KZzsI)
Hey, the Obama economy was great!
Posted by: Rich Blue Cities! at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Jean-Michel Trogneux at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (OFJlJ)
The breadth, depth, and quality of the positive trends under Trump - and materially related to his policies - are barely understood, and of course never mentioned by the "press" - then, or now.
And there are few "citizens" any more, it's just people living around each other. The vast armies of clueless suburbanite/coastal/urban Dem tribal voters have no idea that Trump's economy* was the best one for the "little guy" in most of their lifetimes. Rising real household income for un- and semi-skilled labor. You know, the "little guy" the Dems have absurdly pretended to champion for generations.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 12:58 PM
You are correct. The only thing that will stop this mess is double digit interest rates and the Fed will never go there again unless a Republican gets elected, just like they did with Trump. The spending isn't going to stop either because all of this new $$$$ being injected into the economy will become permanent. We are screwed.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (bVYXr)
All is well!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (dfRN6)
There are other Democratic senators from red states who quietly oppose the bill, but they are willing to let Manchin and Sinema take the heat for opposing it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (I2/tG)
Yes. Transparently obvious to us, but the MSM refuses to acknowledge this. There is no way that these are the only two Senators to oppose this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (klPiX)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (03BbD)
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (VpIIl)
Powell is also a criminal because he violated the law by having the Fed purchase non-governmental equities. To the tune of over $800BB.
First you destroy small business, then whatever small business remains, you inflate away everything so that the Fed can pump over eight hundred billion into large businesses.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (mZUr4)
I'm assuming fully vaxxed means whatever new benchmark their department of "health" has come up with.
Australia has ordered 14 jabs for each citizen. A booster every six months for the next 7 years. And they intend to use them too. They are force-vaxxing residents
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (DJFLF)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 13, 2021 12:39 PM (ZSsrh)
If the mandates go away, CAN covid go away? If it does wouldn't that be proof that the mandates were never needed. I know, I know, they'll just try to shift to a squirrel but I think they've ridden this hobby-horse too long.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (U7wke)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (XnbJC)
There is an argument that interest rates should be about the rate of inflation.
Imagine what a 14% rate would do to the federal budget!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (Q9lwr)
If rates were determined by the market you'd expect risk-free(government security) rates to be about equal to inflation to a little bit higher.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (z5Vrg)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (LvTSG)
Sinema's biggest challenger is Congressman Raul Grijalva, a Clinton loyalist, who is quite literally an old, constantly drunk Mexican.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (trdmm)
What would check it? The fed raising rates, which they will not do, ever? And if they do do it, what would happen then? Posted by: ace at December 13, 2021 12:45 PM (0G13K)
Joe Mannix and I (and others) were discussing this at the end of last week. They *need* to start raising interest rates now, but Jerome Powell is an even bigger idiot than William Miller was (Jimmy Carter's first Fed Chairman)
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well, what's gonna happen is people will stop buying Treasury bonds that return a negative ROI. Then, we'll be forced to either print more monoey or raise rates to sell them. This is about where the 2015 redskins were with Kirk Cousins...they dug themselves into a salary cap blind end like a bad carpenter painting himself into a corner.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 13, 2021 12:56 PM (aW5/6)
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What is your guess on how many Americans know who the fuck Chris Wallace is?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:03 PM (bA3Ln)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (U7wke)
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They want an easy way off, but really they need to treat it like a bandaid. Rip it off, take the bad news cycles for a month or so, but the lead a strong economic recovery going into the midterms.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 01:03 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:03 PM (22DzM)
Posted by: SMOD at December 13, 2021 01:03 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:03 PM (ZZK0E)
That's the doom scenario. Interest payments already consume a big chunk of the Federal budget - have double digit interest rates, and most of the Federal budget starts going towards paying interest.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2021 01:03 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (dfRN6)
Thanks for this data point! My BF still wants to get a tree, I'm not feelin' it. So my plan was to suggest I turn my big indoor Princess Fern into a Christmas Fern.
I think the cost factor will sway him my way.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2021 01:03 PM (DJFLF)
We defaults happen, money is destroyed and the money supply lessens. That tends to reduce inflation.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 01:03 PM (Y5qcH)
Posted by: It's Happening at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (lyBUc)
Did you get vaxxed today? Then you're fully vaxxed. Tomorrow you're undervaxxed and due for a booster in less than six months' time.
Posted by: Jean-Michel Trogneux at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (l0OK9)
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (xqRaG)
Probably >78 and 4 co morbidities!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2021 01:00 PM (yrol0)
.........
I'm guessing car crash.
Posted by: wth at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (v0R5T)
True. If by 'now' you mean 10 years ago.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (22DzM)
They are not respecting my autotity!
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 12:50 PM (K3ZCc)
I saw AutoTitty open for Nashville Pussy at the Cow Palace back in '05.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (n+4am)
That's the doom scenario. Interest payments already consume a big chunk of the Federal budget - have double digit interest rates, and most of the Federal budget starts going towards paying interest.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2021 01:03 PM (I2/tG)
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"Good! Then the Pentagon can have a bake sale to fund its warmaking!"
-Hippie that Medicare spends roughly $1 million a year on just to keep alive after decades of inhaling smoke into his lungs
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (ZsR3z)
Well when one defaults it causes others to default leading to a lot of locked up capital (Equipment, factories, and people, not currency) as there's an attempt to slowly unwind the obligations by claim priorities. Governments will typically just print more money though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (z5Vrg)
A little water cures us of this deed.
Posted by: Lady Harris at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (dQvv7)
Unemployment, inflation, the stock market, vaccine mandates, mask mandates, the mars mission, the price of soybeans, europes access to russian natural gas, racial disparities in the underserved housing markets...
The real question is:
Why are we expecting the president to handle any of this?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (E8EsG)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (VpIIl)
They might have to -- gasp -- CUT SPENDING!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (KZzsI)
"Is Criticizing Joe Biden a Danger to Democracy?
As concerns mount over the future of free and fair elections, a debate has broken out about whether the media must protect Biden to save the republic."
Ladies and Gents, this is how you get Pravda and the Gulag.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 13, 2021 12:40 PM (Avnu4)
I'm surprised they haven't floated the idea of government by fact checkers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (U7wke)
Posted by: The State of Oregon! at December 13, 2021 01:05 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (DU+/6)
Simple answer: they're tyrants. They cannot escape who they are. They are the scorpions to our frogs.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 13, 2021 01:05 PM (KbCG3)
but beyond the budget, all of teh sudden people can't afford mortgages, can't pay their mortgage, and credit cards go to 40%...and the economy shuts down and we're reduced to bartering for chickens in the street.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:05 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM
"what should he be doing about gun violence"?
How about federally charging every instance of "felon-in-possession". I'm sure that would put a dent in the problem.
Posted by: Chuck C at December 13, 2021 01:05 PM (EughT)
"Burnt cloves and marijuana are healthy smoke!"
--white guy with dredlocks
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:05 PM (KZzsI)
The Hick Sovereign Money Monetary Theory says that G20 nations will keep their currencies relatively the same within a narrow band of difference. So when China F'd up their economy with Evergrande, all China's trade partners and client-states (aka The West) were obligated to destroy their currencies to keep parity with China and save China from economic ruin.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:06 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Delurk and Pessimistic at December 13, 2021 01:06 PM (SmFPm)
As I mentioned one thread down, I was sending some packages off - used small flat rate. I just checked my account, yes, in September a small flat rate was $7.20. Yesterday, it was $9.20. That's just a buck less than a medium flat rate was.
I can't even imagine what it's like for a family trying to plan a budget, pay for health insurance, feed and clothe kids - just incredible.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 13, 2021 01:06 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 01:01 PM (ZsR3z)
We got a taste of it in 1929 - 1931.
Every sane person realizes the system is going to blow itself up, soon. The only real question is what form the Destructor will take. (Ray, Did you choose Biden??? I told you not to think of anything, man! I mean damn, Biden????)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:06 PM (trdmm)
That guy again? I thought he had to resign in disgrace for diddling little girls or something. Could be I'm thinking of another Democrat.
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 01:06 PM (ZsR3z)
No realistic way to do it by midterms. If they get up in the morning and start doing *everything* right, we're still looking at 4-5 Qs before things start turning around. They're boxed in, and their answer will be "more cowbell."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2021 01:06 PM (2ABQr)
Posted by: M
that is how it always works, except there have been tens of those events that are just shrugged off now
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 01:06 PM (K3ZCc)
CPI is a fraud and it has been for years. The changes BLS will be making will distort it even further. We barely use that as a straight index anymore and weight sectors differently depending on how they actually work in the real economy.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (VpIIl)
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who? literally the democrats with their near 50-50+1 control of congress want to ram though dozens of trillions of dollars in spending. plus 90,000 IRS agents to go through each person's couch for unreported spare change.
even the dipshit GOP has no interest in cutting spending. AND OH BY THE WAY...we already spent all we could anyway.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (ZZK0E)
https://is.gd/2zqfmM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (DU+/6)
I agree with what I infer is your point.
That the fight with the left is going to be won by them bad poll numbers.
No shit they do. Their policies are destructive to the economy. There words and actions create hatred across racial, geographical and family lines.
The left doesn't care because they have iron control over the political elite and most media.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (VNGpB)
Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (VvoAI)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: Lady Harris at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM
You spelled "mouthwash" wrong.
And, MacBeth!!!!!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 01:08 PM (m+jkK)
Miserable under Stinkfinger? Trump's fault.
These people are deranged.
Posted by: flounder at December 13, 2021 01:08 PM (SH2Zi)
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I had the same experience...just walking through the grocery store. I was getting enraged at the prices.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:08 PM (ZZK0E)
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What, like start a war or something?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:08 PM (bA3Ln)
Why are we expecting the president to handle any of this?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (E8EsG)
especially when he can't even handle changing his own diapers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:08 PM (trdmm)
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Do you really think such silly things? Is it your avocation or is this your profession?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2021 12:47 PM (raQcc)
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I noticed you failed to refute what I said with any actual data. At least Joe Mannix included some actual data in his response. I don't really disagree with his points, but supply chain and other issues have been on-and-off problems since mid-2020 (before Biden). They are not new developments. The only new development is inflation, which I acknowledged was an issue but not (yet) the cataclysmic event that many say it is.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:08 PM (iFTx/)
You can just go and cut one down...anywhere, out here.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (22DzM)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (KZzsI)
Christmas trees are the zucchini of Oregon; you come back out of the store to find that someone's left one on your car. Neighbors are always trying to give them away.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (wmDcS)
How about federally charging every instance of "felon-in-possession". I'm sure that would put a dent in the problem.
Posted by: Chuck C at December 13, 2021 01:05 PM (EughT)
If they all committed suicide, en masse, I promise I'll stop buying new guns and cut way back on ammo. No media, no government, I'd be pretty well covered for most other contingencies.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (wAnMi)
https://is.gd/2zqfmM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM
She's probably responsible for some of that inflation, IYKWIM....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (FVME7)
The AOC Syndrome.
Posted by: flounder at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 01:06 PM (K3ZCc) "
Trained eyes are watching these cycles and laughing. We have selloffs that drive down the market and then come back a few days later- like it did with Omnicron. Those are false alarms and it's pretty easy to see who is selling and buying during these cycles. But when real material economic news happens and the music stops, there will be a lot of people without chairs.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (VpIIl)
When asked why the state has not re-issued a mask mandate for all residents, Polis told Colorado Public Radio (CPR), "There was a time when there was no vaccine, and masks were all we had and we needed to wear them. The truth is we now have highly effective vaccines that work far better than masks ... We see [the availability of vaccines] as the end of the medical emergency."
Polis said that a new statewide mask mandate isn't necessary, even though researchers think that the newly emergent Omicron variant may be more contagious than previous variants of COVID-19. He said that evidence suggests that the currently available vaccines "hold up well" against the Omicron variants.
Posted by: SMOD at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (RHGPo)
They can't change Covid prodocal either or it all falls apart.
Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (aJ8Xd)
https://is.gd/2zqfmM
For a dishwasher on its last leg...she looks good.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (22DzM)
At the ripe old age of, er...29...and having been at my current job for 23 years...a job interview feels like studying for the SAT's.
I think it went well. B.A. position with a software company in NY. It's remote so I can do it from CO.
Huge salary increase if I get it. Wish me luck!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 13, 2021 01:10 PM (Bmy3R)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 13, 2021 01:10 PM (5HBd1)
Why are we expecting the president to handle any of this?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 13, 2021 01:04 PM (E8EsG)
especially when he can't even handle changing his own diapers.
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Have you watched him getting in to his mask? Its like Obama with an umbrella and gate.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:10 PM (bA3Ln)
at_AnonCitizenUK
Savid Javid announces covid passports for 12yr olds from today
This has nothing with health, they couldn't wait to do this
12:34 PM - Dec 13, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3pWb7Mv
"They" is referring to UK government, but "they" also applies to all "The Great Reset" and "Build-Back-Better" elites (i.e. all "leaders" of all Western nation governments, media, corporations, schools, etc.).
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2021 01:10 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 12:54 PM (trdmm)
Oh boy...A real Fed Chairman would have raised rates before inflation accelerated. It is far too late, and everyone knows it.
Imagine what a 14% rate would do to the federal budget!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I'm missing something here. Under Carter the Fed's mandate was expanded to include low unemployment. So when did they expand the mandate to include low interest rates to allow servicing the debt without any concern for the future of the country?
Seriously, does their mandate even mean anything? is there any oversight mechanism?
Posted by: Sean Lock at December 13, 2021 01:11 PM (+lCAk)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 13, 2021 01:02 PM (z5Vrg)
And high-grade corporate bonds would be three or four points more than that, and high-yield? Who the hell knows.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2021 01:11 PM (Q9lwr)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 01:11 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 13, 2021 01:11 PM (flINI)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:11 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (bA3Ln)
I was more shocked, than anything. The prices have gone up significantly, month by month, more than I can remember since the Carter years.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:08 PM (bA3Ln)
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Nationalizing people's retirement accounts, seizing their savings, trillion dollar coins, that kind of thing.
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (1t5dY)
Posted by: red speck at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (gS3OW)
Posted by: MSM at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Sean Lock at December 13, 2021 01:11 PM (+lCAk)
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No, and no. Their mandate also includes "stable prices" and they've been playing the "2%-3% inflation per year means 'stability' in prices" games the entire time regardless.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:09 PM (22DzM)
lol
Posted by: flounder at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (VvoAI)
even the dipshit GOP has no interest in cutting spending. AND OH BY THE WAY...we already spent all we could anyway.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (ZZK0E)
We lost the battle on spending long ago, and now it really doesn't matter. It doesn't because we're long past the event horizon. We're not looking at a coming iceberg; this Titanic has already hit it's iceberg, hard, and now we're just in that weird period where everything seems kind of calm as our ship settles lower and lower in the water.
There's no point in trying to figure out how to "fix it" because it can't be fixed - too late. Work on figuring out how to survive what's coming and and come out the other side with control over whatever's left of our government. (like Russia did after the USSR collapsed)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: z
that is not going to happen
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 01:07 PM (xqRaG)
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10 PRINT MORE MONEY!!!
20 GOTO 10
Nobody tell Biden what a Quintrillion is ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (MLXca)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:08 PM (bA3Ln)
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Nationalizing people's retirement accounts, seizing their savings, trillion dollar coins, that kind of thing.
Posted by: zmdavid
That's how you start a civil war.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (uXonU)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (BPuaD)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (Bmy3R)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: Sean Lock at December 13, 2021 01:11 PM (+lCAk)
Sure...it's the United States Senate.
STOP LAUGHING!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (Q9lwr)
Upon reports of tremendous infighting among staffers and claims the vice president is an abusive boss, Harris has put time into overhauling her office with new decorations that speak to a fresh start.
Posted by: SMOD at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 13, 2021 01:10 PM (Bmy3R)
Best of luck. Beer's on you, if you get it. As is tradition.
Posted by: flounder at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (FVME7)
Its a non sequitor.
Doesn't matter what researchers think about a particular virus' contagiousness, masks are irrelevant in terms of control or containing any virus.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 13, 2021 12:59 PM (5atWK)
Same rhetoric as "it would have been worse if he was unvaccinated!"
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (cSs/W)
Damn shame. But it has to happen.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (22DzM)
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (MLXca)
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Isn't that the thing that Mexicans throw when their daughters turn 16?
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (flINI)
Upon reports of tremendous infighting among staffers and claims the vice president is an abusive boss, Harris has put time into overhauling her office with new decorations that speak to a fresh start.
Posted by: SMOD at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (RHGPo)
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Paid for out of her own pocket, surely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (LvTSG)
Independents are Democrats who pretend the are morally and intellectually superior by constantly saying "both sides". They are more insufferable than pink-haired fruitcakes.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (ykt2Z)
I see this in the near future. And I also see an attempt by the government to seize banks, or at least monopolize them under a single mega bank like Chase, which is then effectively controlled by the federal government.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Colorado Alex
I can not get through that book, which everyone else loves, but that is a good line.
Posted by: MikeM at December 13, 2021 01:15 PM (qt8uo)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:08 PM (bA3Ln)
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Nationalizing people's retirement accounts, seizing their savings, trillion dollar coins, that kind of thing.
Posted by: zmdavid
That's how you start a civil war.
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A war is a war to globo homo.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:15 PM (bA3Ln)
Posted by: Puddin Head
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uh, that's not a good idea. Obama/Trump/Biden's armed forces are a bit too zoomer to fight well. We can't even drive ships straight. This isn't the armed forces with GenX'rs of 2001. or whoever fought in 1991.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:15 PM (ZZK0E)
I see this in the near future. And I also see an attempt by the government to seize banks, or at least monopolize them under a single mega bank like Chase, which is then effectively controlled by the federal government.
Posted by: Chris
no
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 01:15 PM (K3ZCc)
"That's just what it costs, amigo"
--miserable dad
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:15 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: JROD at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (0jZnq)
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 01:12 PM (xqRaG)
How about we mint up a huge pile of Million Dollar Gold coins, and we send one to every man, woman, and child in the US! That'll work won't it???
(hey that's a better plan than the Trillion dollar gold coin)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (trdmm)
i'm surprised the -ists haven't gotten all over "man"date and tried to move us over to transdates.
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (jen+i)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (LvTSG)
I kinda think they wanted to do exactly this, but they lost control (and probably lost it in about August of '20). They broke entire populations and turned them into obsessed, freaked-out, terrified head cases. They might not be able to stop what they started.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:49 PM (DU+/6)
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That and also that so many people and industries were making piles of money off the hysteria. Obviously Big Pharma but the line at the trough was long: any company having anything to do with testing, consulting, data gathering and collecting, even the companies printing all those stupid signs telling you to social distance, etc. It's not easy to stop the money train, especially when it's being driven by heavy hitters like Big Pharma. It seems the primary -- and possibly only -- goal of our public health policies is to make Pfizer trillions.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (iFTx/)
We can pump natural gas out of the ground, burn it and use the heat to create steam to turn turbines and make electricity. Use that electricity to zap water into H2 and O2. Use giant electric compressors to compress the hydrogen to 10,000 psi, load it onto diesel trucks and transport it to fueling stations. Then people can fill up their cars and have carbon free transportation!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (E8EsG)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (wmDcS)
Now they are seeing changes to the heart and blood thickening. She hasnt changed her lifestyle.
My wife asked me if it was the vaccine. We have had discussions of how the vaccines work, and I had to grimly tell her yes. Maybe blood thinners will help.
But blood cells are supposed to be smooth. When the vaccine makes them rough, the fluid dynamics is turbulence and clotting. It was inevitable.
Say a prayer for her and my wife.
Posted by: Dr Evil, formerly Loki, looking to water the Tree of Liberty with my F-15 and nukes at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (ZW1rs)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:13 PM (bVYXr)
I am one of the fools that has been contributing to an old school savings account ( money market ) for years. Yeah I'm losing money but it's hard to trust any other vehicles.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (HaNEn)
Posted by: zmdavid
That's how you start a civil war.
Lets not get too hasty, that option is for when the adverse effects of the C19 mRNA injections don't yield the desired body count.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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this is funny. Let's expand on this joke. I'm not funny but here it goes...
You've just got to figure away to spend more efficiently. For example, no one knows this but the used coffee grounds at starbucks are free, use them to make your coffee and then eat them.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (1t5dY)
Even ABC is trying to kill democracy
Posted by: SMOD at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (E8EsG)
I think they leave gaps in the coverage like that so some new wymyn's studies graduate can make her bones writing about the evil of some masculine sounding thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (KZzsI)
I see this in the near future. And I also see an attempt by the government to seize banks, or at least monopolize them under a single mega bank like Chase, which is then effectively controlled by the federal government.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM
Well there is over $20 trillion just sitting there unused in those 401k's and IRA's, just sayin....
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (22DzM)
Posted by: Mean Tweets at December 13, 2021
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My aging cat Chekov has more on the ball. He at least knows where his food bowl and litter box are.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (txdEq)
Posted by: Boom Boom Biden at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (JPtHE)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (iFTx/)
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That's a big part of it. The industries love that sweet, sweet tax money and purchasing mandates. The government types love the power. The Karens are mentally broken and panicked. It has to stop, but no one can stop it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (mD/uy)
Well, we still have it in my part of the state.
If Polesmoker had balls he would have banned counties from mandating.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (Bmy3R)
@nypost
FEMA chief calls deadly tornadoes 'new normal' due to climate change
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You can't argue with scienzzzzz.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Ben Rothlesberger at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (22DzM)
I see this in the near future. And I also see an attempt by the government to seize banks, or at least monopolize them under a single mega bank like Chase, which is then effectively controlled by the federal government.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:14 PM (KZzsI)
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I'm 52. I'm just know that's going to happen. Maybe I can start a lucrative career in art like Hunter.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (eMEkg)
Who's going to stop them, from that or anything else?
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 13, 2021 01:19 PM (H8QX8)
Another point I want to make.
Inflation is hard to measure but bear in mind that the price of most goods should have been dropping with advances in technology. We have recently had some of the greatest advances in manufacturing technology in history of man, and yet prices go up. This is a hard point to make in a gray box char. limit, but even if the price of a product is stable, we are seeing inflation.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 13, 2021 01:19 PM (+lCAk)
Never before have there been tornadoes in the midwest!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:19 PM (KZzsI)
IT"S ONLY FUNNY IF YOU SHOUT IT!
Posted by: Ben Rothlesberger at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (22DzM)
(i don't get it)
Posted by: mirror universe ben roethlissberger at December 13, 2021 01:19 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: JROD at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (0jZnq)
And the right are spineless, rudderless, wimps (when they aren't too busy playing authoritarian neo-con empire builders), and are only in it for the cushy "K"-Street jobs.
Didja ever stop to wonder if the whole left-right spectrum thing is just one big con job?
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at December 13, 2021 01:19 PM (IeCXa)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (K3ZCc)
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narrator but the temperatures in the midwest tornado alley are the same as they always were
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (bVYXr)
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No there isn't, and if they try it then it will fail. In order to turn any of that into money, they have to sell. Selling that much of it would just crash all the equity markets. They could play some game like issuing low-interest bonds backed by seized retirement accounts, but that won't work well as it will also cause tremendous drops in trading velocities. If the state tries to do something like seizing the retirement accounts, it will just cause a shocking destruction of market value and all those trillions will amount to a few hundred billion when they're done, at the expense of functional capital markets.
I'm with C5. I don't think they do this. They'll do a Tobin Tax or a so-called "wealth tax" first.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (DU+/6)
Clearly, there is no distinction between what you believe and what AOC believes on anything. Its just a con job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (K3ZCc)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (iFTx/)
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That's a big part of it. The industries love that sweet, sweet tax money and purchasing mandates. The government types love the power. The Karens are mentally broken and panicked. It has to stop, but no one can stop it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:18 PM (DU+/6)
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PERFECT STORM OF SHIT
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (iFTx/)
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sort of how hot parking lots in LA cause brush fires 40 miles away...also you know the tops of the trees catch on fire or something bc the ground is cooler due to, you know, shade.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:21 PM (ZZK0E)
A baby shower?
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (wmDcS)
LOL, big time.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 13, 2021 01:21 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Mister Scot
The reason the virus was so weak is that it was a test run. The real virus will come, but only after they bump up the inheritance tax so that they feds get all that cash when people die.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 13, 2021 01:21 PM (+lCAk)
Well there is over $20 trillion just sitting there unused in those 401k's and IRA's, just sayin....
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (bVYXr)
What a national asset!!!! We need to leverage that like we leverage Social Security!!!!
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 13, 2021 01:21 PM (8C7+r)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Fir needles make a great substitute for toilet paper.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (HaNEn)
Posted by: SMOD at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
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Safetyism. Yup. Especially with white liberal women, married or not. It has become part of their multi-deity Progressive religion. It is why female abortion advocates are not being hypocritical by wanting to force a medical procedure (COVID jabs) onto others.
Those women consider abortion a means of protecting their health and their personal freedom. They consider forcing others to get the jab a means of protecting their health and their personal freedom (e.g., ending lockdowns and overseas travel restrictions ASAP, not having their routine activities impacted because they are sick and maybe hospitalized). "I get to do whatever I want and you will do or not do whatever I tell you to make that happen."
Posted by: Gref at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (AMIL/)
This may sound stupid, but if the 16th Amendment was necessary for an income tax, wouldn't a national wealth tax need something similar?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (+LCoQ)
If you make promises where you can clearly see you don't have the means to fulfill them it absolutely is "your fault".
Posted by: mikethemoose at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (T/vhV)
So you kinda can eat coffee grounds.
Posted by: Boom Boom Biden at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (JPtHE)
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the old left-right distinction is pretty much gone. We're not arguing about union thugs vs low taxes vs tariffs and market efficiencies or whatever.
USA's weaponized mental illness and made it the core tenet of the DNC. Their goal is the destruction of America and they won.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:23 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM (E8EsG)
No, they get their choice of designer hijab out of a selection of a half dozen or so. All in shades of black
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2021 01:23 PM (DJFLF)
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:17 PM
Same here. Went to see a money manager guy and he told us we had way too much money sitting in savings and it was doing nothing for us. He recommended putting the excess on our mortgage as an extra principle payment which we did. We left enough in savings to cover our expenses for a year or so.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:23 PM (bVYXr)
I knew a woman who was ABSOLUTELY Convinced that pavement is warming the earth up. Like, it generated and stored heat, somehow.
I told her to look down when she's in an airplane some time and try to even see any roads at 40,000 feet. They look big up close but they are insignificant on a planetary scale.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:23 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 13, 2021 01:23 PM (E8EsG)
Posted by: pep at December 13, 2021 01:23 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (DU+/6)
I've learned never to say never.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:23 PM (HaNEn)
We can pump natural gas out of the ground, burn it and use the heat to create steam to turn turbines and make electricity. Use that electricity to zap water into H2 and O2. Use giant electric compressors to compress the hydrogen to 10,000 psi, load it onto diesel trucks and transport it to fueling stations. Then people can fill up their cars and have carbon free transportation!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 13, 2021 01:16 PM (E8EsG)
Hydrogen is used to make diesel and gasoline (Hydrocracking) and to remove sulfur (hydrotreating). Refineries use the vast majority of the hydrogen currently produced. Much of it is produced at the refinery.
This is a much better use of it than as a fuel. Oh, and no one makes it by electrolysis of water. That's way too inefficient. That's like just pissing away energy.
Steam methane reformers is how hydrogen is commercially produced. The feed stock is natural gas.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 01:24 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (DU+/6)
The resulting civil unrest will risk toppling the federal government, and a non-trivial number of politicians who supported the theft will be murdered.
You and C5 are correct.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2021 01:24 PM (Q9lwr)
Savings accounts aren't supposed to be an investment, they are there to provide funds in an emergency. The fact you get any interest at all is a bonus.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:24 PM (KZzsI)
I was looking at land but they get you on the taxes.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:25 PM (HaNEn)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2021 01:23 PM (DJFLF)
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They can wear any hajib they'd like as long as it's black.
Posted by: Henry Ford Mohammed at December 13, 2021 01:25 PM (flINI)
obviously wants to see a smaller disaster
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Hopefully, they have that Global Warming cornered in Ohio.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:25 PM (bA3Ln)
Buy goods because they ain't getting cheaper.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 13, 2021 01:25 PM (jTmQV)
Blatantly stealing the election should have lead to nationwide unrest and rioting, people dragged from offices, etc. Instead it was crickets.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:25 PM (KZzsI)
The truth is, they couldn't do it without someone noticing it in the legislative/regulative process and would blow the whistle.
The insiders and those who get their news outside of the MSM would find out and liquidate causing massive market crashes before the LIVs would know.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:25 PM (+LCoQ)
We can pump natural gas out of the ground, burn it and use the heat to create steam to turn turbines and make electricity. Use that electricity to zap water into H2 and O2. Use giant electric compressors to compress the hydrogen to 10,000 psi, load it onto diesel trucks and transport it to fueling stations. Then people can fill up their cars and have carbon free transportation!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy a
Throw in some gov. subsidies, and you have my attention.
Posted by: elon musk at December 13, 2021 01:25 PM (+lCAk)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM
They will just "deem" it passed, easy peasy.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:26 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 13, 2021 01:26 PM (Q1UQF)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:26 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (VpIIl)
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Are they sane? Do they really care if they destroy the economy? I could see President AOC trying it.
Posted by: zmdavid at December 13, 2021 01:26 PM (xqRaG)
Clearly, there is no distinction between what you believe and what AOC believes on anything. Its just a con job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (KZzsI)
As a libertarian (little-"l" mind you, and I don't smoke pot, nor have ass-seks, and I do think the border should be closed a lot tighter than Brandon's asshole), I'm not on your over-simplistic line.
The true political spectrum is 2-dimensional. "Left" and "right" are both groups who want to use the government to punish their enemies.
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at December 13, 2021 01:26 PM (IeCXa)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:20 PM (DU+/6)
All of us at the Brattleboro Womens' Health Choice and Wellness Clinic have been discussing this all week! We had a guest speaker from Green Mountain Collge visit and speak on this very issue today!! All the right wing wreckers and hoarders deserve to be punished and the Greater Good and Tomorrow's Children's future prevered by taxing their obscene wealth!!!!
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein in Brattleboro, Vermont at December 13, 2021 01:26 PM (8C7+r)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2021 01:26 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (+LCoQ)
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Probably, yes.
But in our modern world of government Calvinball mixed with essentially unlimited power? No, definitely not.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 01:26 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy a
Needs More Corn.
Posted by: Iowa at December 13, 2021 01:27 PM (22DzM)
Did you miss the tens of thousands of Party Military guardsmen aiming their guns at We The People back in January and February.
Nancy Pelosi and The Party was hoping that someone would resist so that they could get their bloodbath of patriot blood. Works better than Viagra for these people.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:27 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Ripley at December 13, 2021 01:27 PM (MxEKc)
Yes I've been thinking of doing the same . Thanks for the push .
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:27 PM (HaNEn)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:27 PM (bA3Ln)
I hope they throw rocks and sticks at Peanut Head. They were still pulling bodies out of the rubble and that dunce was talking about climate change.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:27 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 13, 2021 01:23 PM (E8EsG)
Buy land in a nearby low-tax state. And make sure it has water.
That's what I am doing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2021 01:28 PM (Q9lwr)
The only drawbacks right now are idiots terrified of hydrogen (but okay with gasoline), and the fact that it costs more energy to split out hydrogen than you get from the resulting gas, so its inefficient, and you have to us another energy source to get it.
My ideal solution would be for someone to come up with a method of using nuclear power plants to generate hydrogen as well as electricity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:28 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: It's me donna at December 13, 2021 01:28 PM (TdaKq)
Everything they say is a lie of some kind.
Posted by: ... at December 13, 2021 01:29 PM (kqUdX)
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at December 13, 2021 01:26 PM (IeCXa)
The true "political spectrum" is an n-dimensional manifold, once you consider "single issue voters".
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 13, 2021 01:29 PM (8C7+r)
Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at December 13, 2021 01:29 PM (cgBkB)
Do you agree with ACO or not? There's a real distinction here you're trying to pretend does not exist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:29 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: M
that is how it always works, except there have been tens of those events that are just shrugged off now
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 13, 2021 01:06 PM (K3ZCc)
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Plus, as I mentioned above, earnings season was mostly strong. So the market isn't at record highs due to just speculation. It's not a mirage or bubble. There are underlying metrics that support the valuations. For now, at least.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:29 PM (iFTx/)
The truth is, they couldn't do it without someone noticing it in the legislative/regulative process and would blow the whistle.
The insiders and those who get their news outside of the MSM would find out and liquidate causing massive market crashes before the LIVs would know.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:25 PM (+LCoQ)
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They way they'll do this is to require 401(k)s to hold a certain percentage of the portfolio in a government issued "annuity" (it will be sold as a government income protection against the volatility of the stock market). It will start low, and then be increased over time.
Posted by: Revenant at December 13, 2021 01:29 PM (1JtC2)
I was reliably told that he couldn't just do a trip like this because of the logistics and his gigantic retinue.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:30 PM (KZzsI)
And Liberalism as a political force is pretty much dead. (It is a very strong popular force, sure, it just has no representation in the asinine political squabbles amongst the gaggle of monsters that attempts to pass itself off as a government.)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2021 01:30 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2021 01:30 PM (LYLbl)
I was looking at land but they get you on the taxes.
Posted by: Just a side note
Well, that depends where you buy. One property - $14000/year. The 150 acre farm with nice farmhouse, barn and outbuilding - $1000/year. I do have to stay current on the definition of 'working' farm but still.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2021 01:30 PM (mD/uy)
Hard to see the bubble from the top of the bubble.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:30 PM (22DzM)
Posted by: Ripley at December 13, 2021 01:27 PM (MxEKc)
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And then put her ass in the attic, too. The head of the CDC bleating about racism? Wut?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2021 01:31 PM (4jWDH)
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Needs More Corn.
The next big thing is Urea. Natgas is required to make it. Urea is required for diesel engines to run and for fertilizing the Midwest depleted soils that were made that way by growing corn to burn as ethanol.
China is halting exports, and Australia is already whining about shortages. The Junta is destroying the Natgas industry in the former US, Europe is begging Russia for natgas and is currently running a shortage.
No trucks, no food. Yet another vector in the global depopulation effort.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:31 PM (+LCoQ)
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R and D is a con job. Freedom vs Slavery is not.
Posted by: ... at December 13, 2021 01:31 PM (kqUdX)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:31 PM (VpIIl)
Grass is growing.
Goat is eating.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:31 PM (22DzM)
And like true incompetents, rather than admitting that the Courts are going to win in the Mandate fight (they will, the mandates are gone), the Biden admin is going to keep fighting to impose them for months to come, wasting all that time and finally dissolving into complete incoherence on policy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:32 PM (trdmm)
Exactly. There are thousands of variations and nuances on each side, but there are two sides here.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:32 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: ... at December 13, 2021 01:33 PM (kqUdX)
I hope they throw rocks and sticks at Peanut Head. They were still pulling bodies out of the rubble and that dunce was talking about climate change.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:27 PM
Let's just say he will not get a warm welcome anywhere near Paducah Kentucky or parts thereabout. I predict multiple let's go brandon moments.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:33 PM (bVYXr)
Agree. Similar in Texas but I'd have a hard time keeping enough livestock . Other option which appears easier is the exemption for wildlife reserve.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:33 PM (HaNEn)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2021 01:30 PM
*crosses the memes*
Look at those snappers, Ralph.
Posted by: Ira at December 13, 2021 01:33 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:33 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 13, 2021 01:33 PM (sVtYq)
The entire federal government is a con-job, left right, and center. This is effectively a fake nation-state, being propped up on a shifting foundation of lies and threats.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2021 01:33 PM (2ABQr)
Posted by: Mishdog at December 13, 2021 01:34 PM (/VWLE)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2021 01:34 PM (LYLbl)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:31 PM (VpIIl)
You know he won't be able to resist blaming "Climate change.' FEMA head already did
Posted by: It's me donna at December 13, 2021 01:34 PM (TdaKq)
Then its on to full global warmening push.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:34 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 13, 2021 01:34 PM (lrvLe)
Posted by: Tonypete at Decemb
Is there a Williamson Act in other states?
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 13, 2021 01:34 PM (Hr0hg)
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at December 13, 2021 01:35 PM (G11iQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2021 01:35 PM (LYLbl)
Keep very small livestock. A shrew farm.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:35 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at December 13, 2021 01:35 PM
Pork chops, and applesauce....swell.
Posted by: Peter Brady at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (jen+i)
They have to juice the markets to keep parity in all of the other heavily inflated global currencies.
Can't have one currency be significantly stronger than all of the rest - might cause some serious relocation of capital.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (+LCoQ)
Keep very small livestock. A shrew farm.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:35 PM (KZzsI)
Tame shrews?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (LYLbl)
Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (aJ8Xd)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:35 PM (KZzsI)
Relocate The View ?
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (HaNEn)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:28 PM (KZzsI)
Nuclear Plants can produce hydrogen by the radiolytic decomposition of water. Electrolysis is not necessary.
Currently, it is an undesirable reaction so it is minimized by design and the little produced is vented off.
As far as I know, there has never been a reactor specifically designed to produce hydrogen, but it certainly may be possible.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (Y5qcH)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 12:53 PM (bA3Ln)
Don't know what Obama's doing.. but I know one thing.. it's as little as possible. Laziest President in our history.
Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (53oGX)
And it interferes with the left's scheme to destroy the US as the world leader and default currency.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (KZzsI)
Then its on to full global warmening push.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:34 PM (KZzsI)
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They should. They should have done it no later than March of this year. They even tried. They wanted the political capital to help them ride to passing BBB. It didn't work because the Biden administration is terrified of Leftist Twitter which is completely addicted to covid fear.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (LvTSG)
I thought Gore gave off a stench of evil.
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We were both correct.
Posted by: ... at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (Sq5xa)
Otherwise known as Class B Biomass fertilizer. There is a very strong argument that this was the way the C19 was spread to the deer and other susceptible animals.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:22 PM (VpIIl)
I remain skeptical. I think the left will try to do it. They'll "guarantee" you a check every month. Promises will be made that it would be better for you in the long run.
And there is >50% of the populace who will gladly do it.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 13, 2021 01:34 PM (lrvLe)
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Fvck Joe Biden and the DogEater he rode in on.
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (G11iQ)
Do you agree with ACO or not? There's a real distinction here you're trying to pretend does not exist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:29 PM (KZzsI)
It's you who are missing the point. Of course I disagree with donkey-chompers. I also disagree with McConnel, Cheney, McCain, the 13 Republicans who voted for the infrastructure scam, Fundamentalist Xtians, George Bush, Bob Dole, Lindsey Graham, the US Chamber of Commerce, et al. All of whom were variously labeled as being "on the right".
I believe in natural rights and the non-aggression principle. Not a tenet particularly favored by most right-wing politicians. (See: the drug war, abortion, prayer in public schools, legalized prostitution. Oh, and bump stocks.)
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (IeCXa)
Just lease out the grazing. Done.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (22DzM)
Posted by: Diesel Jones at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (Vu7A1)
Posted by: ... at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (Sq5xa)
Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM
Yep, OMG! it['s not safe to vote in person mail ballots out to everyone.......
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (bVYXr)
A direct reversal of virus infections.
Prove me wrong.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (KATBx)
Posted by: Mishdog "
On the bright side he does know proper usage of latin-x
Posted by: Ripley at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (MxEKc)
I imagine choruses of "we're saved" flowing across the crowd.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:36 PM (+LCoQ)
I assume this is why Bidum seems to think they can jack the corporate tax rates here and have all of his G20 buddies follow suit? They already have a gentleman's agreement in one area, so it would be easy to extend it to another.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (cSs/W)
Hard to see the bubble from the top of the bubble.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:30 PM
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Except isn't NOT a bubble. That was my point. It's supported by earnings. A "bubble" is a market divorced from the reality of the economic health of the companies comprising it, such as the "dot com" bubble where companies were trading at stratospheric valuations bearing no resemblance to their earnings. That's just not the situation now. Whether it can continue is another question, but then again that is ALWAYS a question even in the best of times.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (lrvLe)
Posted by: Malarkey Jack at December 13, 2021 01:39 PM (Mle+D)
The problem is that you need a replacement currency or basket - the SDRs don't seem to be cutting it because the former United States is not alone in destroying their own currencies.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:39 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (iFTx/)
Okay, now do Tesla.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 01:39 PM (Y5qcH)
Posted by: ... at December 13, 2021 01:39 PM (Sq5xa)
Posted by: ... at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (Sq5xa)
Whether you like with Bush or not he is a born again Christian that was a strong pro life proponent evidence by his actions in that regard.
Incompetent , maybe. Evil, no.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:39 PM (HaNEn)
Posted by: BignJames at December 13, 2021 01:40 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2021 01:40 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (lrvLe)
That's not opinion.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 13, 2021 01:40 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM
Ingrown toenail of Satan, perhaps. He's too small to be a whole limb.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 01:41 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 13, 2021 01:41 PM (lrvLe)
All of our politicians have that stench, if you've grown to recognize it. But most, 99% of them, are very good at concealing it beneath whole lot of perfume.
That's what I found fascinating about HRC. She is one of the rare ones that can't hide it, and doens't bother trying. Normally just being all "I'm evil and we all know it and none of you can do anything about it HAHAHAHA!" is NOT a winning message. But Hill-Dawg made it work for a long time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2021 01:41 PM (2ABQr)
lolz
here's what's fake-trending on twitter:
kim kardashian "passed" her "law exam" on "her" 4th attempt
Remember the "lawyers" in Idiocracy?
Here we are.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- "fuck around and find out" at December 13, 2021 01:41 PM (KUOnJ)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM
Ingrown toenail of Satan, perhaps. He's too small to be a whole limb.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 01:41 PM (m+jkK)
Skin tag, near Satan's taint.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 01:41 PM (Y5qcH)
What is this bullshit ?
He didn't "promise" to "get rid of Trump". Literally, voting to elect Biden was factually getting rid of Trump. No "promise" involved. Allegedly, the voters just did it.
But because Trump still exists, it's not Biden's fault that he absolutely sucks on every issue ? You have to be kidding me with this retarded logic.
Posted by: deadrody at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (/jrmI)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2021 01:37 PM (N39Ws) "
They tried, as have some states to corrupt the 401k process. They even tried putting a certain amount into govies as a default. It failed miserably and if they tried on a broader scale it would be even worse. It would immediately destroy large portions of the market and drive away capital. Even the mere mention of a proposal in committee or draft bill has often caused some money to move. I just don't see anyone destroying the market for that.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Marcus T "
Not right away but the will start by means testing for social security am those with large 401K wont get it. That is the same thing but wont cause the riots. From there it will be taxing them more heavily etc...
Posted by: Ripley at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (LYLbl)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2021 01:41 PM
hillary is going to run again in 2024. She is setting the stage right now and sees her chance with both biden and harris being radioactive.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: BignJames at December 13, 2021 01:40 PM (AwYPR)
When we were teaching the kid about 'can I' and 'may I,' she would get them a bit confused. "May you get me a glass of milk?"
It was cute.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)
I'll bet that AR15 some guy propped up in a corner fully loaded is still just sitting there, if the webcam is still working. Even if we believe noted rage-aholic and probable psycho Alec Baldwin that the gun just "went off", it still had to be in his hand and pointed at someone to do damage.
I love that pollsters add their own issues to these things just to make sure their pet issues stay in popular political discussion.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (MFphb)
They cannot raise interest rates. That ain't happenin'. Ever.
They can save the dollar .. Or, they can save the stock market.
They cannot save both. You can see which path they are going to take. It's always the same throughout history. "Print" the "money". And hope they aren't the ones strung up from the lamp posts when it blows up.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (ubFZv)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 01:41 PM (m+jkK)
Skin tag, near Satan's taint.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 01:41 PM
Oooh...better.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: Mishdog "
On the bright side he does know proper usage of latin-x
Posted by: Ripley at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (MxEKc)
cut this admin a break, how many Spanish speaking multi-million dollar money bundlers do you think there are? Not enough for all those little Central American shithole countries, that's for sure.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 13, 2021 01:43 PM (KUOnJ)
And if you encouraged that process and stored the hydrogen you'd have a pretty efficient way of producing needed fuel for cars.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:43 PM (KZzsI)
So I see you are not a fan of Burke. I'm a promoter of that which results in human flourishing. Snorting coke off the ass of a prostitute while the family is at home wondering why Dad takes so many "business trips" is not what I call human flourishing.
Freedom could be described as the Liberty to Do That Which is Right.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:43 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (bVYXr)
It would almost be worth it just to see the destruction she does to the Obama side of the party.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 01:43 PM (Y5qcH)
Posted by: Ripley at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM
Some democrats have been pushing for means tested SS for decades and eventually it is going to happen. Whether it will pass muster with SCOTUS is another thing.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:43 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 13, 2021 01:43 PM (bxq1r)
Thinly disguised "Death To The Unvaccinated!" cheering.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2021 01:43 PM (aWoBQ)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2021 01:44 PM (22DzM)
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (bVYXr)
I will know we have truly moved all the way into Bizarro Universe if 2024 turns out to be Trump. vs. Hillary. Again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:44 PM (trdmm)
An admission that the calculation of the economic numbers has been changed in a huge way.
Somewhere, somehow they are cooking the books more than a whole kitchen of heavy-set Italians with nicknames.
"Jobs created, saved or funded" is going to look honest when the depth of their manipulation of the numbers is revealed. They want to cement the notion of recovery so trying to tell the truth will be seeing as "talking down the economy."
Posted by: Lrrr at December 13, 2021 01:44 PM (0UY8O)
Just what sort of drugs is that bitch on? LOL
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2021 01:44 PM (ubFZv)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2021 01:44 PM (LYLbl)
That is the most ridiculous thing to say, but say it he did.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2021 12:43 PM (raQcc)
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And I'm at a complete loss as to how the fucktard Democrats thought this was a winning strategy - go on a moronic late night show nobody watches to blame everyone BUT Biden for how shitty Biden is doing. You cannot underestimate just how dumb and out of touch with reality these people really are
Posted by: deadrody at December 13, 2021 01:44 PM (/jrmI)
Thinly disguised "Death To The Unvaccinated!" cheering.
"We're all in this together!"
Posted by: AOC at December 13, 2021 01:45 PM (tiR3O)
he is a born again Christian
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Career politicians are all evil. You can definitely not make it into federal office after a career in that field if you have *any* scruples. You know the score by that point in your life, and you're cool with the whole thing.
The various religious beliefs every one of these power-mad demon-possessed zoo animals professes to have are window-dressing. It's to rook the rubes into believing that these people have souls.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2021 01:45 PM (2ABQr)
Posted by: Joking Joe at December 13, 2021 01:45 PM (BPuaD)
Posted by: wth at December 13, 2021 01:45 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: deadrody at December 13, 2021 01:44 PM (/jrmI)
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It's been posited by others before me, but it's not about appealing to the right or even the middle. It's about shoring up the left.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at December 13, 2021 01:45 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 13, 2021 01:46 PM (Ez6QX)
I agree. She needs to reconstitute the money laundering operation known as the Clinton Foundation and can't do that if she isn't running for office.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 13, 2021 01:46 PM (tiR3O)
Joe Biden
Posted by: steevy at December 13, 2021 01:47 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:43 PM (KZzsI)
Possibly, I don't know how efficient it is, but it would have 2 things going for it 1) Electricity is already being produced, 2) The feed stock is water.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 01:47 PM (Y5qcH)
This bullshit passed ridiculous a while back. And I'm old enough to remember Obama's $trillion dollar Reinvestment and Recover Act.
Posted by: Lamontyoubigdummy at December 13, 2021 01:47 PM (c6W/Q)
I thought Gore gave off a stench of evil.
...
We were both correct.
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Two Insane Trust Fund Babies. Three if you count Bush the Elder.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 13, 2021 01:47 PM (bA3Ln)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Hydrogen has a lot of problems. The main advantage had always been fuel cells but I don't see that as ever really happening. Without fuel cells I think some of the manufactured liquid fuels would be more competitive but it would require massive investment and volume first. It is hard to beat liquid for transportation, and if you go with a gas then methane is much better than hydrogen.
Posted by: elon musk at December 13, 2021 01:47 PM (+lCAk)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:47 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: wth at December 13, 2021 01:45 PM (v0R5T)
MS 13 is kicking our ass right now.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 13, 2021 01:47 PM (HaNEn)
There was one last chance under Trump: grow the economy so hot and cut spending enough that you can shrink the debt and deficit resulting in a reduction in interest cost and stabilize the dollar.
It was starting to maybe have a chance of working when the Wuhan Flu thing hit and they cheated him out of office.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:48 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:38 PM (iFTx/)
Okay, now do Tesla.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 13, 2021 01:39 PM (Y5qcH)
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There will always be individual companies that are over-valued even in the strongest, most rational market. Obviously I was talking about the market as a whole being supported by earnings.
And Tesla is a debatable case. I personally have not invested in Tesla because I believe it's over-valued and highly volatile. I save my "go bad" money for private equity and VC where the risk is even higher but the returns can also much higher. But there's a case to be made that TESLA has huge upside potential due to its positioning in the EV market at a time when many gov'ts are trying to kill off IC cars.
I don't agree with this, but many people do and I can't say they are definitely wrong. If they are right, then the company isn't over-valued.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 13, 2021 01:50 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Reuben Hick
Framers called that ordered liberty where societal pressure instead of laws acts to work for that flourishing. Same reason as they believed that only a virtuous population was fit for representational government. There was no pressure to make localities uniform in their culture or laws.
Posted by: whig at December 13, 2021 01:51 PM (9hXN1)
There are hydrogen engines that work differently than just burning the stuff. They combine the hydrogen with oxygen and generate energy from the chemical reaction, rather than an alternate combustion engine. They aren't fuel cell cars.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 13, 2021 01:51 PM (KZzsI)
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Trump got fucked over by the GOP/Deep State congress that gave him 2 last minute, insane spending bills that he had to sign without reading or else the world would end.
I had heavy criticism of him not vetoing those and going to war over it (especially the whole anti-wall stuff that was slipped in).
he should have also helped primary mitch to leverage mitch into giving him his executive branch nominees
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 13, 2021 01:52 PM (ZZK0E)
But no. The dims wouldn't allow that. So fuck you war.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at December 13, 2021 01:53 PM (0OmEj)
Polling college kids... useless.
Polling limo-liberals... useless.
Sure, they vote. But they are unmovable, thus their opinions do NOT matter.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at December 13, 2021 01:53 PM (TsIaP)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2021 01:42 PM (trdmm)
Thanks to Anna Puma for pointing this out. JEB Bush and wife are available!
Posted by: Mishdog at December 13, 2021 01:54 PM (/VWLE)
They thought the psychopathic bureaucrats who killed half a million Americans by micro-mis-managing the virus response to get back at Trump would suddenly turn into non-psychopaths once Biden was elected.
They had a chance to do this once Desantis started using the monoclonal antibodies in Florida.
What did they do? They doubled down on MiniMengele and started rationing the treatment.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 13, 2021 02:11 PM (LQsJP)
Posted by: Laser-like focus on Jobs or Summer of Recovery, whatever you media dupes want at December 13, 2021 02:13 PM (Mle+D)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 13, 2021 02:15 PM (LQsJP)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2021 12:48 PM (DU+/6)
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There is a 50/50 chance service sector Q4 earnings go into the tank and we are looking at layoffs at the end of Q122.
If that happens, move the House losses up - and the Senate flips with 3 or 4 seat margin. Total disaster for the dems. And it won't help the down ballot races. The dem bench will get further eviscerated.
Posted by: Black JEM at December 13, 2021 02:18 PM (V6xwG)
What the actual fuck ?
You do understand that you're basing all this on government stats that are a known load of complete bullshit, right ? That actual economic "growth" has been hovering around ZERO for over a decade, that actual unemployment that is tied to the incredibly realistic "participation rate" near 60% is more like 25%, and that inflation is now over 15% after averaging over 5% for the past two decades ?
The economy is mostly mythical. And right now, it is hanging by a thread waiting for the vaccine mandate / inflationary caution to put it out of its misery.
For fuck sakes
Posted by: deadrody at December 13, 2021 03:35 PM (/jrmI)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 13, 2021 01:43 PM (+LCoQ)
"Right" as defined by you and your invisible sky-monster worshipping buddies, of course. And no liberty otherwise. I suppose you want to bring back the stockade and dunking stool...
This site seems to be chock-a-block with jackbooted wannabes these days.
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at December 13, 2021 04:09 PM (IeCXa)
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