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Subversive Fun: Defying The “Be Like Me” Narcissists
A few years ago, Ace wrote a piece about narcissistic lefties and their “Why can’t you be more like me” intolerance. (Remember - don’t comment on old threads.) That post hit a nerve with me, as it was published not too long after I left the employment of a blue-city startup company run by “be like me” narcissists.
The young company was struggling, and I was recruited and hired in a finance capacity to try to help turn it around. (It ultimately went out of business. Shocker.) Of course, the President and the CEO were hopelessly distracted by every idiotic new-age management gimmick, and the employees wasted most of their time on peer coaching, team building games, accountability training, breakthrough communication, goal setting, etc. (My goals included “Embrace the Uncomfortable” and “Kickassery.”
The CEO and the President wore jeans and sneakers, and by stressing “no dress code” what they really meant was “Dress like me in jeans and sneakers.” I didn’t. I wore dress slacks, loafers, and a button down every day. This annoyed them greatly, and the President had several conversations with me about how I was dressing. Below is a compendium of how our conversations went.
PRESIDENT: We have no dress code here. People can wear whatever they prefer.
ME: That’s great.
PRESIDENT: So, just about everyone chooses to wear jeans and sneakers.
ME: That’s great.
PRESIDENT: So you can wear jeans and sneakers if you’d prefer.
ME: Thanks, but I prefer not to.
PRESIDENT: OK. Fine. But you don’t have to wear slacks and loafers. You can wear whatever you find most comfortable.
ME: I find slacks and loafers most comfortable when I’m sitting at a desk.
PRESIDENT: Well, most employees find jeans and sneakers to be the most comfortable.
ME: I don’t. Do you want me to wear jeans and sneakers?
PRESIDENT: You can wear whatever you want.
ME: I want to wear a collared shirt, slacks and loafers.
PRESIDENT: OK, but many employees find that their wardrobe makes a personal statement.
ME: So does mine.
PRESIDENT: What is your statement?
ME: That I prefer to wear slacks, a collared shirt, and loafers when I work.
PRESIDENT: Don’t you want to make an original statement?
ME: Wearing jeans and sneakers to match my co-workers would state that I am actually unoriginal, and that I am simply complying with the company dress code.
PRESIDENT: But we don’t have a dress code! In fact, many employees wear shirts with an ironic message. Our culture stresses individuality.
ME: Would it be ironic if I wore a suit and tie?
PRESIDENT: It would look like you work at a place with a dress code and that’s what’s so great about us – we don’t have a dress code!
ME: It sure sounds like there is a dress code. But if there is not one, then I prefer to wear a collared shirt, slacks, and loafers.
PRESIDENT: When we take a group picture for our next press release, will you at least wear jeans, sneakers, and our company t-shirt for that one photo shoot?
ME: Of course. I’ll wear whatever you tell me to wear, any time you request that I do so.
PRESIDENT: You know, we often break into spontaneous fun and play activities which spill outside. Wearing jeans and sneakers allows employees to switch gears without having to change.
ME: That’s OK. I don’t want to play games or roughhouse outside. I want to work.
PRESIDENT: One thing that employees appreciate about us not having a dress code is that they don’t have to shop for work clothes. They can wear whatever is in their closet.
ME: I have a closet full of slacks and shirts but only two pairs of jeans. If you want me to wear jeans every day then I need to go shopping for new work clothes.
PRESIDENT: Does it bother you that just about all the other employees choose to wear jeans?
ME: No. Does it bother the other employees that I don’t wear jeans?
PRESIDENT: Some people here feel that your wardrobe makes a judgmental statement about how others dress. Do you feel we should have a more professional dress code here?
ME: No. You just need to be honest about the dress code you are trying to enforce on me.
[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: moviegique at November 22, 2021 08:36 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (ahosz) at November 22, 2021 08:37 PM (ahosz)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2021 08:37 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: Czech Chick at November 22, 2021 08:38 PM (haWye)
Posted by: Iris at November 22, 2021 08:40 PM (6lKe4)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2021 08:40 PM (jZSOU)
"I want a man who's comfortable with himself, funny and self-assured."
"Okay, how about a date?"
"Where do you work?"
"Well, I'm not working right now. I do some self-employment gigs."
"Uh huh. Where do you live?
"I'm living with family."
"Okay, well you do you but I'm looking for a man who's making more out of himself."
"But you said you wanted someone who's funny and self-assured, and I'm both those things."
"Yes, but I want the RIGHT kind of man who's self-assured and funny."
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 08:41 PM (L2ZTs)
Chicken/egg, whether things like social media and smart phones were contributors/outgrowths of all this. Certainly there have to be multiple causes, including "culture" at the young family level (participation trophies, paranoia about safety, etc).
The imbecilic moral narcissism of both younger and older, mostly an urban/coastal/suburban/"educated" pathology, is outright destructive. It's the sort of ignorant, unserious, irresponsible, child-like mentality that can be manipulated by "children in cages".
And I'm talking about a major, in some contexts controlling, element in American public life. It's an infuriating catastrophe.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 22, 2021 08:41 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 22, 2021 08:42 PM (8C7+r)
...they're not real clear on what "individual" means.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez at November 22, 2021 08:42 PM (Mooke)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 22, 2021 08:43 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: University of Miklos at November 22, 2021 08:44 PM (QzkSJ)
real loud the first 2 times, then dwindling as the crowd realizes ... but then this was back in The Before Time, not sure how this would play out today ...
oh well, g'night, good people.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (ahosz) at November 22, 2021 08:44 PM (ahosz)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 08:44 PM (+WWsf)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 08:45 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf
A lot of things sound like High School
Most things, actually
Posted by: Observant and occasionally attentive Miklos at November 22, 2021 08:45 PM (QzkSJ)
I've noticed Mike Judge seems to have retired a bit. Don't see him doing a lot of new things.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 08:45 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 22, 2021 08:46 PM (aXxgO)
In hindsight they wanted to know if I was conforming. I wasn't, I was driving a Subaru not a BMW.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2021 08:46 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: Inogame at November 22, 2021 08:46 PM (AytsL)
Jeans are pretty uncomfortable, by the way. I hardly ever wear them these days.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 08:46 PM (8548M)
Posted by: San Franpsycho
Oh, so you only took up one parking spot when berthing the Subie?
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2021 08:47 PM (jZSOU)
when I worked at the mental hospital, the entire treatment team had a car thing going on, trying to top each other.
Then I drove up in my 1998 Ford Escort. Yeah, I should have known it wouldn't work out.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 08:48 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel
Tell them jeans chafe the hair off your legs, and it's painful.
Posted by: Miklosian Workplace Injury Lawsuits LLC at November 22, 2021 08:48 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 08:49 PM (JTyUy)
Sheeple gotta Sheep.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 22, 2021 08:49 PM (R/m4+)
Yea... Molly Hatchet T-shirt, jeans shorts and flip flops. And a NRA hat and a large stainless thermos with beer.
Fuck off. It's a picnic George. Lighten up. Want some weed?
Last days are the best days....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2021 08:50 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2021 08:50 PM (63Dwl)
Can you disclose the industry? I mean, was this a Play Now company where testing gaming products happened? 'Cause if this was a biotech company, for example, it was clearly a sign of imminent failure.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 22, 2021 08:50 PM (aXxgO)
Got to the point where I just asked them if they got the job yet.
Posted by: Inogame at November 22, 2021 08:50 PM (AytsL)
Posted by: qdpsteve
Should have showed them the custom installed rabbit fur lined handcuffs in the back
Posted by: Miklosian Out-Tricks LLC at November 22, 2021 08:51 PM (QzkSJ)
The VA in Phoenix was the last hospital to enforce colored 'scrubs' for all nurses, lab techs, nurses aids.
Now all the RNs in all the hospitals wear navy blue.
Why you ask?
Because patients, and people wandering around in hospitals want to know who they're talking to.
Did you notice that doctors can wear whatever they want still.
Yeah, dress codes sux.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 22, 2021 08:51 PM (mMQZc)
"He wears the clothes of a dissenter,
But there's a logo on his back ..." -- Don Henley
[Scene from Dead Poet's Society when Mr. Keating has the boys "march to their own beat," and avoid conformity, Charlie Dalton is the only one who elects to really do his own thing:
KEATING: "Mr. Dalton? Will you be joining us?"
CHARLIE: "I'm exercising my right not to walk."
KEATING: "Thank you, Mr. Dalton. You just illustrated the point. Swim against the stream."
Worked for a socialist Director and asked why we had no, and why couldn't I be, promoted to a Senior position (at least in title, since I was at least paid more and took on more responsibility that others) despite being far more experienced, productive, and valuable than my co-workers; she was horrified that I would suggest asking for a title different from them -- that simply wouldn't be fair! It would promote competition, and envy, and disharmony! Yeah, the DIRECTOR ... the one with the different title.
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at November 22, 2021 08:51 PM (H5elZ)
We are hierarchal apes. We imitate those higher than us. Some want cult of personalities.
It is in our ur-DNA, and very few except the pull.
We had a long run as Americans. Maybe we can extend the season.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 08:51 PM (u82oZ)
I just thought of this, and it really belongs in the thread below. They've spent two years telling us we'll die if we get the Wuflu. Maybe some people decided they don't want to spend the last year of their life working in a crappy job.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 08:52 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 08:52 PM (BJKQV)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 08:52 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Miklos in stylish jodhpurs at November 22, 2021 08:53 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Ladyl at November 22, 2021 08:53 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 08:53 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: crowd chanting in unison at November 22, 2021 08:54 PM (DTX3h)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 08:54 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: qdpsteve
On the job training.
Posted by: Miklos, perpetual Life-turner-arounder at November 22, 2021 08:55 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 08:55 PM (u82oZ)
breaking down and crying because, in one "exercise", their peers (instructed to do so beforehand) refused to give them a "warm, fuzzy" (i.e., a hug). I have been told of adults literally being given rubber ducks to play with in the privacy of their own bathtubs for the purpose of reconnecting with their inner child. Nonetheless, pots of money in the business, probably more than I made as a humble banker and credit insurance underwriter.
Posted by: Paco at November 22, 2021 08:55 PM (njExo)
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2021 08:55 PM (pA4Ca)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 22, 2021 08:55 PM (DTX3h)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2021 08:56 PM (jZSOU)
It is fun to make fun of liberal douchebags.
Posted by: smarty at November 22, 2021 08:56 PM (LCKbS)
You're a middle aged lesbian? Because I have been led to believe that that's what they all drive.
Posted by: pep at November 22, 2021 08:56 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 08:56 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 22, 2021 08:50 PM (aXxgO)
I can't, but it's not software or other typical parasite-type start-ups. It was a business with a traditional service, but it was going to "part of a dynamic overhaul of everything you know about the _________ industry."
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at November 22, 2021 08:56 PM (d9Cw3)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 08:48 PM (L2ZTs)
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Heh. I've only bought ONE new car in my life. I was working for Ford Aerospace, and they had a well-known perk that employees could by new Ford vehicles for something like 2% over Dealer Cost. The funniest part was that when somebody would show up to work in a new Ford vehicle, you could bet there was a good chance it would be followed by giving their two weeks notice -- which is exactly what happened in my case.
Anyway, that was '89 and I'd gotten a new job elsewhere, so went down to the local Ford dealer and bought the cheapest new car they had (without having to haggle!) -- an '89 Ford Escort (and bought the add-on $500 sunroof) for $10,000. Fun car, with a pretty damn good sound system.
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at November 22, 2021 08:56 PM (H5elZ)
Posted by: Miklos, innocent as they come at November 22, 2021 08:56 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 22, 2021 08:57 PM (iDQIH)
226 Dilemma. Talked to the bank about a refi. Seems not worth it. Interest from 3.8 to 3.1. Save $70 per month but cost is almost 4k. 30 yr.
I was looking into it since got a pay cut of 20%. Job options locally slim in my field. Would put mortg. under $600 per month.
Posted by: Infidel
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2021 08:57 PM (pA4Ca)
Posted by: JoeXiDen - Lessko Brandon at November 22, 2021 08:57 PM (EwyZo)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 08:54 PM (JTyUy)
Absolutely, dear Ben Had.
Posted by: Ladyl at November 22, 2021 08:57 PM (TdMsT)
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schlap/reality - poor things
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 08:57 PM (ET3Lq)
Is your bad patch behind you, with sunny days and torrid nights ahead?
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 08:55 PM (u82oZ)
Yes, Salty Dog. Everything is fine!
Posted by: Ladyl at November 22, 2021 08:58 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton
I always include that part on my resume.
Posted by: Disruptive Miklos at November 22, 2021 08:58 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 08:58 PM (JTyUy)
I read an interesting essay a few months ago, possibly linked here, that talked about play in societies and the concept of a spoilsport. It made the argument that covid shit (masks, etc.) is an example of social play, and those of us pointing out the hypocrisy (e.g., our betters not masking) are spoilsports, and that's why we are hated and not people like that chick who said she didn't wear a mask because the party was super fun (was that Lightfoot? The hypocrites have all blended together).
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 08:59 PM (8548M)
Posted by: pep at November 22, 2021 08:59 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 22, 2021 08:59 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 08:52 PM (BJKQV)
it's interesting, if you look at the old world, it's the northern Europeans and the Scandi's who always valued Conformity more than anything. Those closer to the Mediterranean (Italians, French) seemed to be a lot more into good food, good drink, good women. And it's pretty much only the English (and only a few of them) who valued being 'Eccentric" and going Against the Grain just for it's own sake.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2021 09:00 PM (evAgx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2021 08:50 PM (63Dwl)
Sooo, about that book:
The company that I worked for (20 years at the time) was acquired by a mid sized bank, and that bank was then acquired by a BoA, all within a year or two.
BoA insisted that every employee join the takeover team in Lost Wages to discuss the "merger".
They flew everyone from all around the country to Vegas for a 24 hour event, where they gave everyone a copy of "who moved my cheese" and a box of juggling sacks.
2/3 of the room was let go within 6 months as they were just "baloney slicers according to one of "the Bob's". Thank goodness the departed learned to juggle, and figure out who moved their cheese.
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 22, 2021 09:00 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: JuJuBee at November 22, 2021 09:00 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 09:01 PM (8548M)
Probably not relevant any more.
Posted by: JuJuBee
Hmmmm
Posted by: Sen. Kyrsten Sinema at November 22, 2021 09:02 PM (QzkSJ)
The problem is that when you're being eccentric deliberately, you're really just being a conformist. A lot of those eccentric Brits seemed to view it as a fashion statement or a way of disguising serious problems with sociopathy.
Posted by: pep at November 22, 2021 09:02 PM (ZsR3z)
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 22, 2021 09:02 PM (BgMrQ)
As do you, maam. Its the simple things that make life enjoyable.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 22, 2021 09:02 PM (iDQIH)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 22, 2021 09:03 PM (QU5/8)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel
No management book should take more than 5 minutes.
Posted by: Miklosian Management LLP at November 22, 2021 09:03 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: JoeXiDen - Lessko Brandon at November 22, 2021 09:03 PM (EwyZo)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:03 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: pep
No half-hearted efforts now! - How about a buttplug with peacock feathers and a mask.
Only.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2021 09:03 PM (jZSOU)
Posted by: Black JEM at November 22, 2021 09:04 PM (V6xwG)
Here in Portland, we worship diversity in all things but thought!
Think differently from us, and we'll crush you like a bug.
Posted by: Portland! at November 22, 2021 09:05 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: JuJuBee at November 22, 2021 09:05 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: Ben Had
*sadly discards Ben Had's resume*
Posted by: GlobalMiklosCorp at November 22, 2021 09:05 PM (QzkSJ)
Most management books are like that.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 09:01 PM (8548M)
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Trump said that
Musk said that
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 09:05 PM (ET3Lq)
My dear boy, I've already explained that I shan't ride past the first field. I cannot, I really cannot, have the tops of my boots splashed.
Posted by: Beau Brummel at November 22, 2021 09:05 PM (8548M)
Having worked for the fed in CA for two different agencies, I found their dress codes to be to my liking. Wear whatever makes you happy and comfortable.
The Army doesn't give a shit about what makes you happy or comfortable. It took me several years, but I broke them of that. Not that I could wear shorts and flip flops to work, although I did occasionally, and got grief about it, but nothing else, but the whole shirt and tie shit was a no-go.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2021 09:06 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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In our household, it goes "I don't like people. There are, on the other hand, persons I can tolerate. "
Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 22, 2021 09:06 PM (8AONa)
it's SO BAD there that advertising is better lol
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 22, 2021 09:07 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: Black JEM at November 22, 2021 09:07 PM (V6xwG)
Posted by: The Boss at November 22, 2021 09:07 PM (0hbQ6)
Mysterious as fuck I tells ya....
We will probably never know the reason.
Posted by: JoeXiDen - Lessko Brandon at November 22, 2021 09:07 PM (EwyZo)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:07 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: Some Rat at November 22, 2021 09:07 PM (r1z5A)
Same goes for a book on how to write management books.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 09:08 PM (+WWsf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2021 09:08 PM (H//Yv)
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Yeah, they're pretty comfortable with "tolerating" things that they like and agree with, and only those things.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 22, 2021 09:08 PM (sGnvY)
Posted by: JoeXiDen - Lessko Brandon at November 22, 2021 09:09 PM (EwyZo)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:09 PM (JTyUy)
BTW, there is another riot scheduled in Portland for this evening.
Jojo, and Anthony wouldn't have had it any other way.
Posted by: Portland! at November 22, 2021 09:10 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Ben Had
Both English and Hungarian are acceptable.
No Esperanto or Urdu, please.
Posted by: GlobalMiklosCorp HR at November 22, 2021 09:10 PM (QzkSJ)
Who?
Posted by: Down The Memory Hole! at November 22, 2021 09:10 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Paco at November 22, 2021 09:11 PM (njExo)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at November 22, 2021 09:11 PM (TRGyz)
Posted by: redridinghood at November 22, 2021 09:12 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 22, 2021 09:12 PM (nxdel)
The real reason our productivity is declining? Equity vs a Meritocracy.
When working hard gets you the exact same thing as slacking? People will slack... which means productivity declines.
High Standards with increased rewards for productivity, equals increases in productivity.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2021 09:12 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: JuJuBee at November 22, 2021 09:12 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: The Maskless and Unvaxed Ranger at November 22, 2021 09:13 PM (hQVBP)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:13 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: CppThis at November 22, 2021 09:13 PM (UewuT)
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 09:13 PM (u82oZ)
Marjorie Taylor Greene
@mtgreenee
13m
I've told everyone what a horrible person Lin Wood is and if you watched
@TuckerCarlson
tonight then you heard from Kyle Rittenhouse one of the reasons why I think so.
Lin keeping Kyle in jail instead of bailing him out with ALL that money donated FOR Kyle is absolutely evil.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 22, 2021 09:13 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 22, 2021 09:12 PM (nxdel)
When Kyle talked about not freaking out? I learned that lesson in 1983.... at 24 years old, due to an extreme situation I was in.
That he already knew it at 17... is mind boggling.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2021 09:14 PM (oHd/0)
I hate that effing book
Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 09:14 PM (YZG/i)
Posted by: Paco at November 22, 2021 09:11 PM (njExo)
Nice
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 22, 2021 09:15 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: SFGoth at November 22, 2021 09:15 PM (KAi1n)
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I admit that it's irrational, but I won't do video calls without pants.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 22, 2021 09:16 PM (sGnvY)
Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 09:16 PM (YZG/i)
I hate that effing book
Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 09:14 PM (YZG/i)
Who cut my cheese?
Posted by: Slo Joe at November 22, 2021 09:16 PM (P3gRi)
I work in the financial industry. But the past 4 or 5 years (might be even longer) we have had business casual as our dress code. So slacks and a button down shirt for me every day. Now I would wear a suit and tie if I could but I do not fit into any of my suits and cannot button my shirt all the way either!!! LOL
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 22, 2021 09:17 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Some Rat at November 22, 2021 09:17 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2021 09:06 PM (BFigT)
Doing IT work, I found that when dealing with people from certain cultures.... like Doctors from India or Pakistan... if I FIRST met them in a suit, I would be treated much better than if I showed up in Jeans.
Part of it was a Caste System cultural thing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2021 09:17 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: The Maskless and Unvaxed Ranger at November 22, 2021 09:17 PM (hQVBP)
The real reason our productivity is declining? Equity vs a Meritocracy
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2021 09:12 PM (oHd/0)
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There's also, I'd wager, a temporary dip from so many people getting their first taste of telecommuting/remote work. I've done remote work exclusively since 2012, partially remote for ten years before that, and I'm comfortable with it. There is, however, not so much a learning curve as a "settling-in curve." Some people just can NOT work remote. The first two months are usually the test. After that, you either do fine, or you sit there in your underpants looking at cat pictures on the internet when you're supposed to be working. With the coof, there's no option to put those people back in an office, so they either quit (attrition) or plod on uselessly (productivity dip).
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 22, 2021 09:18 PM (lNHqD)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton
Well, you're no Jeffery Tubin.
Posted by: Some Rat at November 22, 2021 09:18 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 09:18 PM (+WWsf)
What a piece of shit.
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 22, 2021 09:18 PM (nxdel)
*********
I actually get that, one of the trials of video calls is having to remember not to stand up during the call under any circumstance
Posted by: The Maskless and Unvaxed Ranger at November 22, 2021 09:19 PM (hQVBP)
Posted by: JuJuBee at November 22, 2021 09:19 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: Miklosian Management LLP at November 22, 2021 09:03 PM (QzkSJ)
They did that with that "One Minute Manager" book, but it still sucked.
Posted by: Splunge at November 22, 2021 09:20 PM (PQ4Fz)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2021 09:20 PM (P3gRi)
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 09:20 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 22, 2021 09:20 PM (iDQIH)
Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 22, 2021 09:21 PM (YZG/i)
Posted by: JuJuBee at November 22, 2021 09:21 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: moviegique at November 22, 2021 09:21 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 22, 2021 09:16 PM (sGnvY)
It's not irrational at all, unless your life is so arranged that, whatever happens, you never need to stand up.
Mine is not. For example, I have a neighbor with dementia who is prone to walking in the door and calling "Hello? Hello?"
Posted by: Splunge at November 22, 2021 09:21 PM (PQ4Fz)
The new prisoner figures he'll give it a try so he shouts out "87"
The whole place busts out laughing. Grown men are peeing themselves. It takes several minutes before things die down. The newcomer says "I guess that's a good one then?" The guy next to him says "Hell yes! We ain't never heard that one before!"
Posted by: 496 at November 22, 2021 09:21 PM (U1eOr)
Two years later, after looking at the costs for stupid catered meetings and OT for the hourly,
Total Quality was declared achieved.
Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2021 09:22 PM (vd8XM)
Who Cut the Cheese
These are not necessarily the same type of books. Or so I've learned.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2021 09:22 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Ogg at November 22, 2021 09:22 PM (0hbQ6)
Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2021 09:23 PM (pYLCQ)
Because boinks knows why. These people were weird, but I guess thats what you get for working for a company based out of Maine
Posted by: The Maskless and Unvaxed Ranger at November 22, 2021 09:23 PM (hQVBP)
Posted by: Ben Had
We could make a Reasonable Accommodation.
Salve
Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at November 22, 2021 09:23 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: JuJuBee
Still happens but they've added guys to the mix.
Posted by: Some Rat at November 22, 2021 09:23 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:24 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: 29Victor at November 22, 2021 08:52 PM (BJKQV)
Hole wrote a song about that:
Well I went to school in Olympia
Everyone's the same
And so are you, in Olympia, ya, ya, ya, ya, ya
Everyone's the same
We look the same
We talk the same yeah
We even fvck the same
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at November 22, 2021 09:25 PM (m5ywb)
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:25 PM (shMPn)
Posted by: Beartooth at November 22, 2021 09:25 PM (KTaZ8)
I took my first real job with a company that not only required suits, but specified the type of shirts, ties, shoes, etc. that were allowed, and those fuckers were serious about it. I know it sounds unbelievable today, but you'd be surprised how quickly you get used to it.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 22, 2021 09:25 PM (Agr8U)
Posted by: Some Rat at November 22, 2021 09:26 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: JuJuBee
Happened to my mom at the torpedo plant she worked at..
Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2021 09:26 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 09:26 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:26 PM (shMPn)
Posted by: Ladyl at November 22, 2021 08:58 PM (TdMsT)
Great to hear, {{{Ladyl}}}!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 22, 2021 09:26 PM (Agr8U)
Posted by: Global MiklosCorp Inc. Ltd. at November 22, 2021 09:26 PM (QzkSJ)
Who Cut the Cheese
These are not necessarily the same type of books. Or so I've learned.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2021 09:22 PM (BFigT)
Well, they could be if ace write it
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 22, 2021 09:26 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: CppThis at November 22, 2021 09:27 PM (UewuT)
*********
I liked traveling to Seattle, my favorite thing to do when I visited was to ask the locals if it rained a lot there
Posted by: The Maskless and Unvaxed Ranger at November 22, 2021 09:27 PM (hQVBP)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 22, 2021 09:28 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: Socratease at November 22, 2021 09:28 PM (oqnjT)
Almost as much fun as asking about the nearest public restroom.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 09:28 PM (+WWsf)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:28 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 22, 2021 09:28 PM (M+Lyo)
But there was a lot of variety in that. Service Dress Blues, Full Dress Whites, Wash Khakis, Certified Navy Twill, Gunslingers black, Summer Whites, Tropical Whites, etc, etc, etc.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 09:29 PM (u82oZ)
Anyway, it's not hard to be a non-conformist at work these days. Just refuse to wear a mask.
My current contract, I showed up, no face mask, though others were, and, since I've been there, face mask sightings have been fewer and fewer.
I fully planned on going home if they required me to wear a face mask.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:29 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Socratease at November 22, 2021 09:29 PM (oqnjT)
Mandatory Fun Day will be held TOMORROW from 4:00 to 5:00 PM. Attendance is Required. It Will Be Fun.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 22, 2021 09:30 PM (+SVqR)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 22, 2021 09:30 PM (iDQIH)
Talk about a building full of people with no real problems in life.
I figured that when I moved to Austin and started working in tech that it was going to be super relaxed, people come and go and work from home as they please. Was I ever in for a rude awakening. I ran into a buzzsaw of 20- and 30-somethings that would get to the office at 7:30, leave at 6:00, and wonder why I didn't want to do the same. It would have been one thing if we were in a high-stakes finance world or somewhere that 70-hour weeks are even a little bit necessary, but we weren't. People spent HOURS at the office playing ping-pong or video games, shooting the shit, eating the company-provided lunch, and just generally fucking off. I got in at 9, knocked my shit out, and left at 3:30. This was to the dismay of my bosses.
Needless to say I'm not there any longer.
Posted by: ballistic at November 22, 2021 09:30 PM (oXNqT)
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 09:29 PM (u82oZ)
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My daughter takes great pride in wearing her uniform properly.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:30 PM (2SdPm)
I bounced around quite a bit at my last gig. I'd do what I was told, but somehow the 6 month deadline they gave me was about 5 months too long. So they'd find something else for me to do. I had a strong IT background, could write technical documentation, was well versed in federal bullshit speak and didn't give a fuck who I was assigned to, or who I reported to... it all pays the same. Plus I'm like a year out from retirement.
So I get assigned to the mainframe software branch responsible for all Army enlisted and officer HR data. My cube has a huge black stain on the carpet... likely coffee as it's right outside the manager's office and was probably a coffee area at one time. I hated it. So one morning I took some masking tape and made the outline of a body around the stain. Looked like a crime scene.
The (THE) General in charge of our division comes in one day to see my boss, looks at my cube and asks "What happened here?" I shrug and say "Mistakes were made."
I got new carpeting a week later.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2021 09:30 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:30 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 14, 2017 01:09 PM (dnWSK)
2017, those were the days.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:31 PM (UkBFs)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 22, 2021 09:31 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:31 PM (shMPn)
Posted by: Miklos, thinking "E Pluribus Unum" still has a ring to it at November 22, 2021 09:31 PM (QzkSJ)
Reminds me we also had to sit through movie about the Seattle fish throwing place
I still don't know why.
Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2021 09:31 PM (vd8XM)
I know, rude on my part,
I will now put on the face mask of shame.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:31 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 09:32 PM (/U27+)
Posted by: Slo Joe at November 22, 2021 09:16 PM (P3gRi)
Here, Joe, have a biscuit!
[pfffllaaabbbbbtttt!]
Posted by: The Spleen at November 22, 2021 09:32 PM (ZSK0i)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 09:01 PM (8548M)
I had to read a book on managing emotional reaction to other people's (client) trauma.
Since each chapter was headed by a quote, and one of the chapter heads quoted Che Guevarra, I figured it was pointless, unthinking and new age cant
Which described that office and all the people in charge, but in addition they were all either extremely corrupt or half insane.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 22, 2021 09:32 PM (P9T5R)
I am in the same boat. A few years ago I gave up the home office and rented an actual office. Home and work are definitely separate and works well.
Posted by: JoeXiDen - Lessko Brandon at November 22, 2021 09:32 PM (EwyZo)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2021 09:32 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 09:32 PM (/U27+)
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Fire and maneuver? I'm game!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:32 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: THEOS at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (Q+UiE)
Posted by: 80's music fan at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (glGDV)
Posted by: Joetato at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: SFGoth at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (2SdPm)
I had to wear a C&T to school since 7th grade. You get used to it.
Hell, wearing a coat these days makes even more sense with all the crap one has to carry around:
1) car keys
b) cell phone
iii) wallet
D) vax card...j/k, fuck that shit, and fuck Erie County right in the squeak hole for re-instating a mask mandate in public.
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2021 09:34 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: 80's music fan at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (glGDV)
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PerrrfecT!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:34 PM (2SdPm)
Part of it was a Caste System cultural thing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2021 09:17 PM (oHd/0)
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Yup. Show them the badge under your lapel and they really snap up.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 09:34 PM (ET3Lq)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:35 PM (UkBFs)
Posted by: The Maskless and Unvaxed Ranger at November 22, 2021 09:35 PM (hQVBP)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
I read that in a Mickey Rooney voice
Posted by: Miklos, applying himself for a change at November 22, 2021 09:35 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: JoeXiDen - Lessko Brandon at November 22, 2021 09:03 PM (EwyZo)
I look good in a suit, I worked in an office, and I could buy them to fit for $25 off the rack at Goodwill.
Nordstrom suits are poor, but Jos A Banks and Jones NY are claaaaasy.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 22, 2021 09:36 PM (P9T5R)
Posted by: The Maskless and Unvaxed Ranger at November 22, 2021 09:35 PM (hQVBP)
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Creases, baby, creases!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:36 PM (2SdPm)
Stay delurked! Bet you have some great stories to tell.
Welcome!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 22, 2021 09:36 PM (KrMCC)
Your toilet paper use at home is only on the weekends?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 22, 2021 09:36 PM (SchxB)
Roger.
All of Narragansett Bay was a torpedo factory in WWII, still have a bunch of them they are still pulling out of the bay when it was used as a testing site.
Was just curious is your mom was from around here.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2021 09:36 PM (ZLI7S)
I gotta admit, I enjoyed wearing dress blues and having a sword.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 22, 2021 09:37 PM (iDQIH)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:37 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:37 PM (UkBFs)
Posted by: THEOS at November 22, 2021 09:33 PM (Q+UiE)
It's dog eat dog...survival of the fittest...eat or be eaten. The last bastion of capitalism!
Posted by: Louis Winthorpe III at November 22, 2021 09:37 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2021 09:37 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
I did too! 20% on Monday, 20% on Tuesday and so on.
Posted by: Some Rat at November 22, 2021 09:37 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Daddy Miklos Warbucks at November 22, 2021 09:38 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: GlobalMiklosCorp HR at November 22, 2021 09:10 PM (QzkSJ)
I swear the purpose of Esperanto is to make Romanian relevant on a global stage.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 22, 2021 09:39 PM (P9T5R)
Posted by: JuJuBee at November 22, 2021 09:39 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 22, 2021 09:39 PM (nxdel)
Merry Christmas to us!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:39 PM (2SdPm)
Payne told Fink who her comments reminded him of, and she didn't seem to appreciate this particular truth bomb:
Townhall.com
@townhallcom
.@cvpayne tells Dem Strategist guest that her talking points "sound like a speech that the communist leader of China just gave two months ago."
Guest: "Excuse me...you just called me a communist."
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Well, quack like a duck. A dirty commie duck.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 22, 2021 09:40 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 22, 2021 09:40 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Crossing state lines like a Boss at November 22, 2021 09:40 PM (x8Wzq)
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:40 PM (shMPn)
Posted by: Kindltot at November 22, 2021 09:39 PM (P9T5R)
Is Esperanto still a thing?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2021 09:41 PM (P3gRi)
Posted by: EveR at November 22, 2021 09:41 PM (MUpk6)
Posted by: Kindltot
I can personally swear and attest that Judit Polgar, the Chess Chick, speaks Esperanto.
Posted by: The Stuff Miklos Knows at November 22, 2021 09:41 PM (QzkSJ)
@townhallcom
.@cvpayne tells Dem Strategist guest that her talking points "sound like a speech that the communist leader of China just gave two months ago."
Guest: "Excuse me...you just called me a communist."
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Well, quack like a duck. A dirty commie duck.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 22, 2021 09:40 PM (FVME7)
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Well, the dog that yelps is the one that got hit by the stone thrown into the pack.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:41 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Annoying, Irritating Katharine Hepburn at November 22, 2021 09:41 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: ZOD at November 22, 2021 09:41 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: JackStraw
Northern Wisconsin. Went into the WACs at the beginning of the war. Got out on a medical. Worked at Amatorp at night and went to nursing school during the day. After the war worked at the veterans hospital.
Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2021 09:42 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 22, 2021 09:42 PM (mMQZc)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:42 PM (UkBFs)
Posted by: ZOD at November 22, 2021 09:42 PM (M3Z2J)
Curse you, Tim Cook.
Morons beware of unwelcome OS updates. Don't end up like me.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:42 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:42 PM (UkBFs)
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ISO 9000!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:42 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Crossing state lines like a Boss
Hawaiian shirts and lederhosen are entirely acceptable.
Posted by: Miklos, advising Tiffani from HR at November 22, 2021 09:43 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:43 PM (UkBFs)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:42 PM (VxC1e)
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Word.
Posted by: Windows 10,11, infinity at November 22, 2021 09:43 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 09:44 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 09:44 PM (/U27+)
I think it was always two million, but I'd guess that Pierce and Wood pretended they only needed one million in immediate donations up front for bail, and they'd cover the half while further donations came in.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 09:44 PM (+WWsf)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:44 PM (UkBFs)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:42 PM (VxC1e)
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Word.
Posted by: Windows 10,11, infinity
All versions of Windows require mandatory boosters.
Posted by: Bill and Mrs. Fauci-Gates at November 22, 2021 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:45 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Jame Gumb at November 22, 2021 09:45 PM (0hbQ6)
When Mitch Obama wears slacks you get to see her wanger. There's your argument for a dress code.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 22, 2021 09:45 PM (BPuaD)
Disaffected Gorilla: "I prefer to wear a bone-necklace."
Zod: "Is that your choice?"
Gorilla: "It is."
Zod: "He defies. Execute him."
(Gorilla is executed)
Zod: "Ear necklaces.That is all."
Posted by: ZOD at November 22, 2021 09:45 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:45 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 09:46 PM (/U27+)
Right up until someone didn't do exactly what he wanted, then he went into full rage mode.
Do not feel bad that I lucked out and just missed seeing him at a former coworkers funeral.
Posted by: Bete at November 22, 2021 09:46 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:44 PM (UkBFs
I'll put together a scrum, but you check the ISO 9001 procedures document first.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at November 22, 2021 09:46 PM (m5ywb)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:45 PM (VxC1e)
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Alcohol will help to make it a seamless transition.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:46 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Mr. Strickland at November 22, 2021 09:46 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Mucho alcohol and laughs.
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2021 09:47 PM (pA4Ca)
Posted by: Cicero
*shoves a Double Synergy down the bar*
Posted by: Miklosian MBA Bartending LLC at November 22, 2021 09:47 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 22, 2021 09:47 PM (iDQIH)
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:47 PM (shMPn)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Someone would bring chili with carrots and crossbows would be fired
Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2021 09:47 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: THEOS at November 22, 2021 09:47 PM (Q+UiE)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (+WWsf)
Posted by: Miklosian Life Experiences LLP at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 09:46 PM (/U27+)
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See #184.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 09:46 PM (/U27+)
A MoMe at weasels? Or Had's.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (UkBFs)
Posted by: Bill and Mrs. Fauci-Gates at November 22, 2021 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)
It is almost criminal to question how the spate of computer crashes relate to the boosters!
Posted by: MS compulsory legal document at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (5HBd1)
Greed works.
Posted by: ZOD at November 22, 2021 09:49 PM (M3Z2J)
Posted by: Miklos, advising Tiffani from HR
Tiny bubbles, in der Schnapps.
Posted by: Komonaiwannalaya Fugelstein at November 22, 2021 09:49 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:49 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 22, 2021 09:47 PM (iDQIH)
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It was a way for Europe to close their markets. Until US companies complied with the ISO 9000 standard, no American products in Europe. But, we showed them, we shipped all of our manufacturing to China!
Oh, wait....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:49 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (5HBd1)
Only if you skip.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:50 PM (shMPn)
Greed works.
Posted by: ZOD at November 22, 2021 09:49 PM (M3Z2J)
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Where's Beeks?
Posted by: Mortimer Duke at November 22, 2021 09:50 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2021 09:51 PM (pA4Ca)
I have always been somewhat terrified of that pit/floor thing, based solely on movies and TV. I gather it wasn't exaggerated for effect?!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 22, 2021 09:51 PM (KrMCC)
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2021 09:51 PM (9hXN1)
Merry Christmas to us!
Welcome to the neighborhood, so to speak.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 22, 2021 09:51 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Put a shot on the table in front of you. Turn your back. When you turn back to the table you'll see if you can trust us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 22, 2021 09:52 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:52 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 09:52 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (+WWsf)
Thanks . Did not know that.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:52 PM (shMPn)
There are a number of 12 meter race boats around here, former America's Cup boats, that are used as charters. Many companies charter them as team building exercises and race each other.
Hilarious.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2021 09:52 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (5HBd1)
Only if you skip.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:50 PM (shMPn)
Knew a guy who skipped on bail out of WI for mail fraud. Was picked up in Florida for filling up and driving off without paying.
Was granted bail.
Last anyone heard of him that I know of.
Posted by: Bete at November 22, 2021 09:53 PM (Ojki1)
I thought it was always $2 million, too, but tonight Kyle mentioned $1 and said something to the effect they had it and de never wanted to fight extradition. That Lin Wood is coming out of the woodwork w Pierce to try to take the money raised for Kyle for Wood's "charity" stinks.
Posted by: EveR at November 22, 2021 09:53 PM (MUpk6)
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2021 09:51 PM (pA4Ca)
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A former boss, for his 50th birthday, I photoshopped his name into a tombstone and replaced his desktop wallpaper so he saw the tombstone and graveyard when he logged in.
Did I mention I worked in IT for a few years? And, we're know to play a practical joke or three?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:53 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
I'm sorry, what's the ask? I was multi-tasking.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2021 09:53 PM (jZSOU)
Reminds me we also had to sit through movie about the Seattle fish throwing place
I still don't know why.
Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2021 09:31 PM (vd8XM)
FISH!
I missed it because I was a temp and they didn't want to pay for me since I would be gone within six months.
The true message of the Fish program is that any job can be exciting if you are really stoned
Posted by: Kindltot at November 22, 2021 09:53 PM (P9T5R)
Posted by: Tami at November 22, 2021 09:54 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Beartooth at November 22, 2021 09:54 PM (KTaZ8)
Welcome to the neighborhood, so to speak.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
Hmmm
Rethinking the whole Cactus Farmer concept.
Posted by: Sustainable Miklos at November 22, 2021 09:54 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2021 09:53 PM (jZSOU)
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Nerds
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:54 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:54 PM (JTyUy)
Posted by: Kindltot
Ha!!
Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2021 09:54 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 09:48 PM (+WWsf)
Thanks . Did not know that.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:52 PM (shMPn)
I didn't either, and I've lived here for 29 years and something.
Posted by: Bete at November 22, 2021 09:54 PM (Ojki1)
It provides a speed of 25kt to 50kt, range of over 50km and endurance of one hour.
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It will hit a ship 31 miles away.
Ships ahoy
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (ET3Lq)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: Bete at November 22, 2021 09:53 PM (Ojk
Should have put the Dog on him.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (shMPn)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
You can rest assured there would be spanking. And after the spanking. . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (jZSOU)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:54 PM (JTyUy)
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Wait. Jackstraw has a yatch?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: "Miklos" aka "Raul" at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (QzkSJ)
Hilarious.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2021 09:52 PM (ZLI7S)
Can you charter a U-boat for team-building exercises? With live torpedoes and a working 88 deck gun?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (P3gRi)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (P3gRi)
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I like the cut of your jib.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 09:56 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 09:54 PM (JTyUy)
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Wait. Jackstraw has a yatch?
Posted by: Cicero
How many hatches on that yatch?
Posted by: Inquiring Miklos at November 22, 2021 09:56 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 22, 2021 09:56 PM (5HBd1)
-No, I didn't forget.
You know, everyone wears their vaccinated sticker on their name badge. Didn't you get one?
-No, I didn't get one
Well, I'll go to infection control and get your sticker
*later* They wouldn't give me a sticker for you because you are not vaccinated!
-Nope
You're a doctor! You should understand how important the vaccine is!
-I do. That is why I didn't get it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2021 09:56 PM (UkBFs)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (P3gRi)
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Landings in Argentina cost extra.
Posted by: J. Mengele at November 22, 2021 09:57 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 22, 2021 09:57 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2021 09:58 PM (pA4Ca)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (P3gRi)
I'm partial to team building with Panzerfausts.
Posted by: Beartooth at November 22, 2021 09:58 PM (KTaZ8)
Tiefenmesser.
Because it's fun to say.
Posted by: ZOD at November 22, 2021 09:58 PM (M3Z2J)
No it was not. I really cannot begin to put into words how UNLIKE it was compared to working in ANY OTHER workplace. Maybe one day I will tell the story of the broker whos clerk screwed up and cost him 1.5 million in about 90 seconds
Posted by: THEOS at November 22, 2021 09:58 PM (Q+UiE)
Posted by: Bete
Shhhhh
Posted by: "Miklos" aka "Raul" at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (QzkSJ)
Moose? Man, it's been ages but seriously, you're less Hispanic the Beto, might want a better cover.
Posted by: Bete at November 22, 2021 09:58 PM (Ojki1)
Anything else is just a grift at this point.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 22, 2021 09:59 PM (+WWsf)
Posted by: Beartooth at November 22, 2021 09:58 PM (KTaZ
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You too can be Volksturm!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 22, 2021 09:59 PM (VxC1e)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2021 09:41 PM (P3gRi)
for a given value of a thing, as in probably more people speak it than Cornish or Chinook jargon.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 22, 2021 09:59 PM (P9T5R)
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 22, 2021 10:00 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Beartooth at November 22, 2021 09:58 PM (KTaZ
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So, we have sea and land covered.
Hmm. Maybe a working B-17 with full complement of armament and a full bomb bay?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 22, 2021 10:00 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Miklos "Otter" Rush Chairman, damn glad to meet ya at November 22, 2021 10:01 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Elmer Fudd at November 22, 2021 10:01 PM (0hbQ6)
Posted by: Rbastid at November 22, 2021 10:01 PM (IZ1VF)
I wish.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2021 10:01 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at November 22, 2021 10:01 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 22, 2021 08:46 PM (8548M)
I never wear jeans. Hate them. I have a pair they my wife bought me for Christmas, and I'll only wear them upon her insistence. And even then, practically never.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 22, 2021 10:02 PM (mdjgu)
Here are the benefits I want, 1. pay me as much money as you can afford, 2. see #1
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2021 10:02 PM (lSgzp)
Posted by: Javems at November 22, 2021 10:02 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2021 09:46 PM (/U27+)
twelve monkeys humping a football. One of them is talking about building some sort of rudimentary lathe.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 22, 2021 10:03 PM (P9T5R)
Posted by: Bete
French
"Raul" is French
Posted by: "Raul" from France I tell you at November 22, 2021 10:03 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 22, 2021 09:55 PM (jZSOU)
...hot iron???
Posted by: Louis Winthorpe III at November 22, 2021 10:04 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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I once read a story about a young real go getter, an up and comer in business who's fondest dream was to be invited to join the big boys' yacht club. After suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, completely disillusioned and no longer caring about the yacht club, he is invited to join. Then he finds out what the club is really about; they pirate, loot, and murder. And they all lived happily ever after.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 22, 2021 10:04 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 22, 2021 10:04 PM (BgMrQ)
We refi'ed this year and made the term shorter to match the old loan. Dropped payments as less interest over term of loan. Depending on the years left, you can also look at a 15 or 20 yr term refi. The yield curve on the 15 and 30 for our refi was within 1/4 pt.
A lot depends on your risk tolerance and whether you plan to live in the area later. If you plan on selling in 4-5 years, probably the savings is not worth it.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2021 10:04 PM (9hXN1)
Posted by: banana Dream at November 22, 2021 10:02 PM (lSgzp)
I know everyone has run off to the ONT but this is my approach too. Give me the money now, not the small increments over years.
Posted by: Beartooth at November 22, 2021 10:05 PM (KTaZ8)
No yacht club for me but you're welcome to come hang out anytime, Ben.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2021 10:05 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Tami at November 22, 2021 10:05 PM (cF8AT)
Did you work at IBM ?
Posted by: Just a side note at November 22, 2021 09:26 PM (shMPn)
Another three-letter company, the one that brought you Ross Perot
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 22, 2021 10:06 PM (Agr8U)
Posted by: whig at
I plan on dying here. Will see if I can haggle. Thanks. Sometimes it sucks being single.
Posted by: Infidel at November 22, 2021 10:07 PM (pA4Ca)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 22, 2021 10:06 PM (Agr8U)
Heh. I'm a fallen Eagle too!
Posted by: Beartooth at November 22, 2021 10:07 PM (KTaZ8)
Once in a while I'd just wear a suit and tie for the hell of it, and all the bosses would kiss my ass.
Turns out they were terrified I was out job hunting.
Wore a suit more often after that.
Eventually I casually walked out without a peep, dressed as casually as I could on the most casual of Fridays.
Company was gone within two years.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 22, 2021 10:16 PM (vuisn)
But, showed up wearing his dirty, broke ass work boots. They stood out like a roach on a wedding cake.
Born rebel, him! He was the talk of the gathering.
And remember, You are Unique, just like everyone else!
Posted by: boynsea at November 22, 2021 10:16 PM (sshap)
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2021 10:25 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: mikethemoose at November 22, 2021 10:26 PM (T/vhV)
This was a 15/20k square foot serious shop, and I was the master of the electrons. 1.2 KV feed, and guess who put in the 2 extra 480v xformers, 2 more 240v xformers, and a strange 320v unit for a Canadian CNC mill that the boss found on E-Bay.
Then go back into the design shop to do a presentation, having lost the coveralls and restored the jacket and tie.
The bossman appreciated my care for the corporate image, and covered my dry cleaning. He followed my lead in having a couple changes of clothes in his office. His office was, much larger than mine, but we both had soldering stations behind our desk
Posted by: JC Collins at November 22, 2021 10:27 PM (Vi3+d)
1) Gave me praise for catching a conflict between two OTHER team member's assigned tasks; so they didn't waste a month cross-coding over the same area without discussing it first.
2) Gave me a dressing down for spending time talking to other people on the team; even if my work got done as well. Because it was distracting others and slowing them down.
I was a bit unclear on how to continue to do the first without ever doing the second... Still am.
Posted by: ertdfg at November 22, 2021 10:29 PM (I388C)
The problem is that when you're being eccentric deliberately, you're really just being a conformist. A lot of those eccentric Brits seemed to view it as a fashion statement or a way of disguising serious problems with sociopathy.
Posted by: pep a
It's amazing how you are capable of determing their innermost thoughts from 5,000 miles away. A conformist is one who conforms;if you do not conform whether wittingly or unwittingly,retard, you are not a conformist. Tom Servo, Fascism is a southern European thing, ya twat.
The confident way halfwits spew their idiot takes is truly something to behold.
Posted by: Steeze at November 22, 2021 10:35 PM (vUmc8)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 22, 2021 10:43 PM (VwHCD)
Posted by: Paco at November 22, 2021 11:03 PM (njExo)
When I used to work at a certain nuclear power plant, there were Hawaiian shirt Fridays. The louder, the better. Not the tasteful shirts like on Magnum PI, oh no, 100% polyester in dayglo colors were the most celebrated shirts. When I visited some friends in Hawaii, they were absolutely appalled to learn that this was the culture that we associated with Hawaii.
Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at November 22, 2021 11:24 PM (0tmoY)
Passive-aggressive, weak, dithering at crucial times. I worked there 15 years, and the longer I stayed the more I hated myself.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 22, 2021 11:55 PM (gv2uw)
Posted by: klaftern at November 23, 2021 12:12 AM (taPSh)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 22, 2021 08:53 PM (JTyUy)
Not unless everyone else is wearing Wranglers!
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at November 23, 2021 01:15 AM (hlxe7)
Posted by: bluebell at November 23, 2021 05:52 AM (wyw4S)
I always got 'hand-me-downs' and I hated that.
In my late teens, I heard a program on TV one late night about how to dress for success. The first rule was to dress like those you want to be. I wanted to be an engineer, so I pretty much started dressing like the nerds at IBM. I still do. Even when I am doing 'dirty work' outside.
Posted by: SMOD at November 23, 2021 09:58 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Disgusted Deer at November 23, 2021 10:30 AM (1NDPc)
when I worked at the mental hospital, the entire treatment team had a car thing going on, trying to top each other.
Then I drove up in my 1998 Ford Escort. Yeah, I should have known it wouldn't work out.
Shame you didn't drive a 'ping!' Pinto.
Posted by: Ciampino at November 24, 2021 10:41 AM (qfLjt)
Management loves jargon. Another of my pet peeves was the 'blue sky' time-wasting workshops. Most weren't really 'open sky' but had hidden agendas.
Posted by: Ciampino at November 24, 2021 11:16 AM (qfLjt)
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Car prices! Back in 1974 I bought a brand new Mustang II for $3400 cash.
Posted by: Ciampino at November 24, 2021 11:25 AM (qfLjt)
Also the IRS insisted on the physical separation in the event that the employer paid for things like Internet connectivity, electricity, etc., otherwise that remuneration would be 100% taxable.
Posted by: Ciampino at November 24, 2021 11:56 AM (qfLjt)
__________
Bill Cosby had a great one about that in an early LP.
"If the sun came out everybody would be 'What did we do?' ...... and Bobo the Gorilla.
Posted by: Ciampino at November 24, 2021 12:04 PM (qfLjt)
Almost as much fun as asking about the nearest public restroom.
Well in San Francisco I guess the reply these days would be "Anywhere you like can be the nearest public restroom."
Posted by: Ciampino at November 24, 2021 12:07 PM (qfLjt)
Hatari -- that's kiSwahili for 'danger'. Is there a connection? (I spent over 40 years in Africa)
Posted by: Ciampino at November 24, 2021 12:11 PM (qfLjt)
It's amazing that they are running on their "fingernails".
Posted by: Ciampino at November 24, 2021 12:24 PM (qfLjt)
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