First-World Problems...Part שלושים ושבע

I have a relatively old car (actually an SUV) that doesn't have many of the recent bells and whistles. Well, it has a back-up sensor which is pretty useful for parking, but that's about it. One of its few interesting features was a heating system for the wiper fluid. I thought that was pretty neat, but GM's engineers added another feature to the system called, "Wiring harness failure and fire," so the fuddy-duddies at corporate decided to disable it.

Unfortunately, while it is quite old (13 years!), I generally take care of my things, so it is in excellent condition. And as everyone knows, modern cars are pretty damned reliable. They may not be exciting or beautiful or elegant, but they are boringly predictable and last a very long time.

BUT I WANT A NEW CAR!

I am also ~~cheap~~ frugal, so the thought of buying a new car before the old one wears out is just silly. It's just not going to happen.

BUT I WANT A NEW CAR!

Life is awful sometimes.

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM

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Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2020 02:01 PM (9sWOw)

2 Nice ride, CBD.

Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:01 PM (/669Q)

3 Pretty sure that car is a third world problem.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 06, 2020 02:02 PM (9Qods)

4 She's barely broke in!

Posted by: Weasel at December 06, 2020 02:03 PM (MVjcR)

5 I remember seeing cars that looked like that when I lived in the Land o' Lincoln in Chicagoland. Except they'd usually be missing a door, or the hood.

Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:04 PM (/669Q)

6 Nooded, new vehicles are nice in hardly worrying about a unexpected breakdown.

Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2020 02:04 PM (9sWOw)

7 h/t Kia Sorento

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 06, 2020 02:05 PM (4vNgL)

8 That is quite the Antifa catcher in the front of that behemoth.

Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2020 02:06 PM (9sWOw)

9 Going to look at a grad gift for oldest daughter in an hour; A 2005 Volvo S40. 112K miles. Any thoughts from the Horde?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 06, 2020 02:06 PM (7Fj9P)

10 Going to look at a grad gift for oldest daughter in an hour; A 2005 Volvo S40. 112K miles. Any thoughts from the Horde?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 06, 2020 02:06 PM (7Fj9P)

don't.

Posted by: runner at December 06, 2020 02:08 PM (zr5Kq)

11 Behold the new Presidential limo!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:08 PM (YqDXo)

12 I was selling GMs when that feature came out-it was popular but there was a slight issue of overheating so it was disabled. I believe there was a small refund to the customers who had it. Neat idea but not too practical.

Posted by: Bookdoc at December 06, 2020 02:08 PM (PzBTm)

13
just one minor quibble: in the automotive engineering world, there is no such thing as a "fire"

it's called a "thermal event"

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 06, 2020 02:08 PM (DUIap)

14 I've had four cars in my life. The first one I sold not too long after high school, which was stupid because it was a 1970 Dodge Challenger and it would be worth something restored. The next two were used Nissan Sentras that each lasted about 12 years. I bought number 4 - one of the modern Challengers - eight years ago and it's got a ton of life still left in it.

I am at the point in life where a pickup truck would be useful (for hauling crap to the landfill, mostly), but my car is paid off and I don't want another payment. Maybe when little D turns 16 I'll give her the keys to the Challenger - it's not a RT or SRT, relax - and buy a truck.

Posted by: PabloD isn't in a reconciliatory mood at December 06, 2020 02:08 PM (/LWj7)

15 I had a black extra cab Toyota Tundra 5 speed 210k but the frame rusted out and Toyota wouldn't replace the frame.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 06, 2020 02:09 PM (4vNgL)

16 It just needs a good paint job...

Posted by: runner at December 06, 2020 02:09 PM (zr5Kq)

17 don't.
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Please elaborate. They're asking 4K; it looks clean. If it's an utter disaster, please let me know.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 06, 2020 02:09 PM (7Fj9P)

18 I spent my new car money on guns and ammo instead.

Posted by: GM at December 06, 2020 02:09 PM (1AmUr)

19 that land whale is gonna be perfect for the Burning Times. You found your new Death Sled, Lord CBD!

I want to see a raised fist of solidarity as a stamp on the door for each blm/antifa you run down in that beast.

Posted by: Jack Burton, who says, I was born ready at December 06, 2020 02:10 PM (yx0HS)

20 16 It just needs a good paint job...
Posted by: runner at December 06, 2020 02:09 PM (zr5Kq)

Nah. Wash and wax, it'll be as good as new.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:10 PM (YqDXo)

21 I'd go long on technicals as the hot mover in the American automotive market over the next couple decades.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 06, 2020 02:10 PM (BvLWD)

22 I like a hood that's so long you never even hear the pedestrian go under the front bumper.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:11 PM (guGkK)

23 New cars are for suckers.

I have never bought one in my life. Used cars and trucks the whole way.

The trick is to use an opened can of coffee left inside overnight to get rid of any strange smells.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 06, 2020 02:11 PM (R/m4+)

24 "We're not parking it. We're abandoning it."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:12 PM (YqDXo)

25 They are going to outlaw all ICE vehicles in a few short years anyway, so keep what you have, then get in line to get your Second Generation golf cart.

Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at December 06, 2020 02:12 PM (C+evo)

26 I had a black extra cab Toyota Tundra 5 speed 210k but the frame rusted out and Toyota wouldn't replace the frame.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 06, 2020 02:09 PM (4vNgL)

The bastards.

"Look, I just want the truck torn down to thin air and rebuilt from the ground up with a brand new frame!"

"Uh, sir, what you're looking for is a new truck. The showroom is that way."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:13 PM (guGkK)

27 Unfortunately, while it is quite old (13 years!)

!! My car was that old in 2004. Yes, it really is 29.

Posted by: t-bird at December 06, 2020 02:13 PM (CTJwJ)

28 Toyota makes the best appliances, if that's what one is looking for.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 06, 2020 02:14 PM (7ZQe3)

29 I can afford a new car, it's the insurance that would kill me.

Posted by: attila the irritable at December 06, 2020 02:14 PM (w7KSn)

30 Afternoon all.
Currently running a 2007 Ford Ranger and a 2010 Dodge Avenger.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:14 PM (bkkvA)

31 "We're not parking it. We're abandoning it."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:12 PM (YqDXo)
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When my parents lived in SoCal we heard tales of people driving their old cars down to TJ and leaving the keys in them, for the insurance money.

Perhaps that's an option for you, CBD. The Bronx might be a good substitute for TJ.

Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:14 PM (/669Q)

32 I drive an 82 Mercedes 300d, don't talk to me about bells and whistles.

Posted by: Chicago Vota at December 06, 2020 02:14 PM (ts6Zs)

33 Sure, the open can of coffee will get rid of the strange odors, but it won't get hooker blood off the sun-damaged vinyl back seat.

Posted by: PabloD isn't in a reconciliatory mood at December 06, 2020 02:15 PM (/LWj7)

34 Needs spikes on the bumper.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 06, 2020 02:15 PM (mZ8JI)

35 Please elaborate. They're asking 4K; it looks clean. If it's an utter disaster, please let me know.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 06, 2020 02:09 PM (7Fj9P)

Foreign cars are a maintenance nightmare after 60k. And I am talking about the good ones, like BMWs and Mercedes. That Volvo, at that age and with that mi, I think it is probably a piece of junk. Now, if it was free...

Also, pull up any Highest and lowest maintenance cost tables , Volvo is up there. And they are probably talking about over 10 years. You are looking at a 15 yo car.

Posted by: runner at December 06, 2020 02:15 PM (zr5Kq)

36 24
"We're not parking it. We're abandoning it."

Yep. Take the plates off and walk away. It'll get towed eventually.

Posted by: dartist at December 06, 2020 02:15 PM (+ya+t)

37 That was my first car, a 1977 Mercury Cougar XR7. Big long front seat

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 02:16 PM (9UmRs)

38 I like a hood that's so long you never even hear the pedestrian go under the front bumper.

Posted by: Cicero

Ahhh. A 1974 Mercury Gran Marquis.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:16 PM (bkkvA)

39 Back in October we traded in my wife's 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 125K on the odometer.

We splurged on a 2020 Ford Explorer ST. It's probably the most well appointed vehicle I've ever owned, and is incredibly fast for a 2 ton monster. Like zero to 60 in about 6 seconds. It also has more electronic do-dads than I know what to do with, and I consider myself literate with electronics.

Fortunately you can turn the majority of that shit off.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 06, 2020 02:17 PM (3H9h1)

40 Part 37? How many parts does the car consist of altogether?

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 06, 2020 02:17 PM (pP5cE)

41 When I had my 20 year old van in the shop for warranty work recently, they loaned me a new Jeep so I could do errands while I waited for the work to be done. It was, frankly, terrifying. The brakes were overly sensitive, the engine turned itself off if you were standing still with your foot on the brake (alarming the first time it happened; I wasn't warned), there was no ignition lock key, and I couldn't immediately find the door opening/locking bug (they'd stuck it in a cup holder). I was never so glad to get the van back.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2020 02:17 PM (Uhu8A)

42 I drive an 82 Mercedes 300d, don't talk to me about bells and whistles.
Posted by: Chicago Vota

That car is good for another 30 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:17 PM (bkkvA)

43 An SUV that is "quite old " at 13??

My daily ride is 33 years old, (an 87 Ramcharger). The Sunday car is fifty two (a sixty eight Road Runner)used on Sundays only.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2020 02:17 PM (KATBx)

44 New cars are for suckers.

My last used car was a first-gen '73 Honda CVCC that I bought back in 1975. Every one of my 12 cars since then was new.

Fight me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:17 PM (guGkK)

45 9 Going to look at a grad gift for oldest daughter in an hour; A 2005 Volvo S40. 112K miles. Any thoughts from the Horde?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 06, 2020 02:06 PM (7Fj9P)

Run

Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 02:18 PM (gtJ22)

46 I know what I would like to get, unfortunately that is based on a world where fuel is under $2.50 a gallon.

Everyone has been promising me that government is doing all that they can to at least double that price before this summer.

So I here I sit with a fist full of cash, a desire to buy, but because of the chaos not willing to risk spending any of it.

Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at December 06, 2020 02:18 PM (C+evo)

47 27

You've got me beat. I'm driving a 1998 Subaru and a 2004 F150. No, not at the same time, before anybody asks.

Posted by: Bean Counteress of Rohan at December 06, 2020 02:18 PM (B70/C)

48 The antenna on the beater is still intact. That beast is a thing to behold. Someone is very dedicated to keeping that thing roadworthy.

Posted by: pawn at December 06, 2020 02:18 PM (Cfk8j)

49
This may be an abbreviated posting session, my keyboard is starting to lose certain numbers suddenly.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2020 02:19 PM (KATBx)

50 Martini Farmer - I was listening to Eric Peters, I think, who said that Ford vehicles have some system wherein the steering wheel will resist being turned if you haven't activated a turn signal. The idea is that it keeps people from drifting into oncoming traffic. Of course, it also fights you if you need to make a quick, unsignaled lane change. I haven't driven a new Ford, so I can't speak from experience. Does your Explorer have this, and can you turn it off, if so?

Posted by: PabloD isn't in a reconciliatory mood at December 06, 2020 02:19 PM (/LWj7)

51 That's not a clunker, it's the latest in "Don't Steal Me" technology:

https://tinyurl.com/ChameleonXLECommercial

(with the late, great Phil Hartmann)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at December 06, 2020 02:19 PM (SRRAx)

52 I tend to drive my cars until they start to resemble the pic above lol. My current ride is a 2008, and just hit 100k.

It's got YEARS of service left. Besides, I hate shopping.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 06, 2020 02:19 PM (veMj1)

53 Someone is very dedicated to keeping that thing roadworthy.
Posted by: pawn at December 06, 2020 02:18 PM (Cfk8j)

The packing tape that holds on the front bumper is the tell.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:19 PM (guGkK)

54 , the engine turned itself off if you were standing still with your foot on the brake (alarming the first time it happened;
Posted by: Captain Obvious

A starter that would last 20 years now lasts 3.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:20 PM (bkkvA)

55 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:13 PM (guGkK)

Toyleta trucks are notorious for frame rust outs. They have had to replace many frames.

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 02:20 PM (9UmRs)

56 Paranoid is in the 8-track.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 06, 2020 02:20 PM (mZ8JI)

57 i would drive to the dealer while they fussed around with it and would see new frames stacked in the parking lot. I got 6500$ for.it and got Tacoma with a jump seat in back. A/C never worked and never could get the saw dust out to please the ladies. Women don't do 4/60 A/C anymore, I guess. Love my Sorento

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 06, 2020 02:21 PM (4vNgL)

58 when I wasn't looking, the wife took my X4 over to Albany and traded it for a 2019 Hyundai Tucson limited

she has owned it it for 18 months and has 8K miles on it

it's a fairly good auto

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:21 PM (MIsHM)

59 I bought a new Hyundai Tuscon recently. I had a Sonata before and wanted to get back into an SUV.. I like being higher up.

It's a nice ride! But I really hate the buying experience. It was brutal.

But I got the price I wanted.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 06, 2020 02:22 PM (CjFDo)

60 My old foot and ankle joints are telling me to break down and purchase a commuter vehicle with one of those new dangled automatically shifted transmissions.

Posted by: GT 5.0 at December 06, 2020 02:23 PM (VPmDd)

61 Here's the link for the Algorithm being broken.

https://tinyurl.com/y4td4jor

Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 02:23 PM (gtJ22)

62 The packing tape that holds on the front bumper is the tell.

Is that a wedge under the front tire to keep it from rolling away?

Posted by: t-bird at December 06, 2020 02:23 PM (AytXr)

63 Heh.

The combined age of both of our vehicles is 33.

But, my 2009 truck has 45K original miles

And the 1998 minivan has 65K original miles on it.

About the only advantage of CA any more is that vehicles wear out before rusting out.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 06, 2020 02:23 PM (WEBkv)

64 My old foot and ankle joints are telling me to break down and purchase a commuter vehicle with one of those new dangled automatically shifted transmissions.
Posted by: GT 5.0

Quitter.

/s

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:23 PM (bkkvA)

65 Better buy one if you have the dough before Biden et al. take your money in taxes, outlaw gasoline engines, and raise gasoline prices sky-high.

Posted by: Susanamantha at December 06, 2020 02:24 PM (WiqkF)

66 the engine turned itself off if you were standing still with your foot on the brake (alarming the first time it happened;
Posted by: Captain Obvious

A starter that would last 20 years now lasts 3.

Yesterday while walking past an intersection, a car with one of those start/stop braking solutions did a rolling stop and still the engine cut-out and I could hear the starter turning over the engine as soon as the car coasted through half the intersection.

Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at December 06, 2020 02:24 PM (C+evo)

67 34 Needs spikes on the bumper.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 06, 2020 02:15 PM (mZ8JI)

And whirling blades protruding from the wheels, like the chariots in "Ben Hur."

Just the thing for those street "protesters."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:24 PM (YqDXo)

68 Posted by: PabloD isn't in a reconciliatory mood at December 06, 2020 02:19 PM (/LWj7)

Lane "assist" I think. Steering wheel vibrates simulating a rumble strip.

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 02:24 PM (9UmRs)

69 You can put a lot of bodies in that trunk.

I would imagine!

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 06, 2020 02:25 PM (Dc2NZ)

70 Is that a wedge under the front tire to keep it from rolling away?
Posted by: t-bird at December 06, 2020 02:23 PM (AytXr)

It is. Good catch.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 06, 2020 02:25 PM (mZ8JI)

71 Needs spikes on the bumper.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 06, 2020 02:15 PM (mZ8JI)

And whirling blades protruding from the wheels, like the chariots in "Ben Hur."

Just the thing for those street "protesters."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Whirling blades coming out from under the front bumper, ala Mach5/Speed Racer.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:25 PM (bkkvA)

72 Unfortunately, while it is quite old (13 years!)

13? It's just getting run in!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:25 PM (YqDXo)

73 Just paid off my car.

Has 89K.

I'm running this bitch until the wheels fall off.

Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 02:26 PM (gtJ22)

74 When the Odyssey was 10 years old, we got a new one - gave the old one to DD#2 to drive to college.

The "new" Odyssey is now 10 years old. Still in great shape, but if we decide to get a new one at some point, will be getting another Odyssey - I LOVE the ones that we have had!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at December 06, 2020 02:26 PM (SRRAx)

75 my first world problem begins with high blood pressure, a 90% blockage, and a stent in October of 2019. 12 months later and i'm off the blood thinner and one of my bp meds. woohoo!

time to dust off the motorcycle and go for a ride.

battery has a dead cell, so i call around, not in stock anywhere except the place that has a 300% markup. eff them.

ordered from batteries plus, in store pick up. received installed,core exchanged. roll the bike out of the garage, for a warm up and a thorough pre-ride check.

holey fook! two engine mount bolts are missing! when did those disaparate?

i very clearly remember installing them when i did the clutch pack two years ago, i even remember torqueing them to 45 foot pounds. did not use lok-tite.

this was prior to my second spine surgery, so i probably didnt put more than several hundred miles on it after the clutch rebuild.

i was able to find two new replacement bolts, washers, and nuts from the online official parts dealers. cost $38 including shipping. this was two weeks ago. they shipped, but haven't arrived.

the agony. i'm healthy enough to ride again, but am down for parts. this sux.

update, some of you may remember me whinging about my damned right knee. it won't suppport my weight when instep, and i've lost a lot of motor control of my lower leg. rendering my not able to ride again. the fooking bolts came in a ups box last night.

if ammo were more readily available, i would take my frustrations out on a paper target at 200 yards.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 06, 2020 02:26 PM (VcFUs)

76 You can put a lot of bodies in that trunk.

I would imagine!

*shifty eyes*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 06, 2020 02:25 PM (Dc2NZ)
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And there would still be room for the quicklime!

I would imagine.

Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:26 PM (/669Q)

77 I'd like to get an RV, but I'd have to get a self-contained Class A Motorcoach.

Ain't gonna pull much trailer with a 2015 Mazda 5 minivanwagon.

The pity is, the Mazda isn't suited to being towed "four-flat" behind an RV. No simple way to let the drivetrain freewheel, and not destroy the transmission. Front wheels would have to go up on a tow-dolly, behind the RV. A less elegant solution, to be sure.

Downside to owning a good sized (or any) RV? Storing the damn thing. I've got room for one beside the house, behind the front fence. HOA couldn't say a damn thing about it, because "behind the fence".

But it'd still be an eyesore, parked there like that.

I think the RV is damn near the perfect MoMeet Flyer. And for other ventures, as well.

Schlepping tons of guns n' gear up to and back from a hotel room, just is less and less fun with every trip and journey.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 06, 2020 02:26 PM (QzJWU)

78 A starter that would last 20 years now lasts 3.

"""

Golf carts have had this technology for years. I think cars will hold up just as well

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 06, 2020 02:26 PM (7ZQe3)

79 One owner!

-New Deal Used Cars

Posted by: DB- just DB. Embrace the horror. at December 06, 2020 02:26 PM (iTXRQ)

80 You can put a lot of bodies in that trunk.

No kidding!

Posted by: 5 Families of NY at December 06, 2020 02:27 PM (bkkvA)

81 NOtice that vehicle does not have a single sticker. No "They Can't Lick our Dick", or "Groovy Lives Here". Nothing !

Posted by: runner at December 06, 2020 02:27 PM (zr5Kq)

82 > 50 Posted by: PabloD

My Explorer has 3 different settings, or levels of computer intervention, but you can turn the wheel to change lanes in all modes without a turn signal on. There's a "tugging" in the wheel when you have it set to the most sensitive position. The sensors around the body can "see" the painted lines and it can, if you set it up, try to keep you in your lane.

It'll also apply the brakes if it detects another object in front or behind you... again, if you set it. It will park itself both parallel and normal.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 06, 2020 02:27 PM (3H9h1)

83 By a collector car. As the age of collectors keep going up the more cars on the market and prices keep dropping. Just saw a 1964 Ford Thunderbird the other day in perfect shape. $12,500, it's just amazing.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 06, 2020 02:27 PM (4thlk)

84 We have a 13 year old Toyota and a 11 year old Mercedes. They are both fairly reliable, the Toyota much more so, but when they break the fix usually beyond our abilities and are very expensive. Oddly I have had more luck working on the Mercedes.

Posted by: Javems at December 06, 2020 02:28 PM (8SSHh)

85 I have a 20 year old car. Every warning light on the panel is lit. Every single one. It's been that way for about 16 months.
During which time I've driven it about 12k miles, with absolutely no noticeable performance issues.
If you don't count the panel lights.

Posted by: attila the irritable at December 06, 2020 02:28 PM (w7KSn)

86 New Years Eve a few years ago my buddy and his wife brought their keyless Lexus. She starts the car and decides to run back and change jackets. Key is in the pocket of the jacket. Parks at the end of the driveway blocking everyone in. Gets out and car locks up with no way to get back in. Cab ride to my house to get my car and a 45 minute ride each way to their house put that New Years Eve in the 4 am range. My buddy was not smiling.

Posted by: dartist at December 06, 2020 02:28 PM (+ya+t)

87
I bought a new Hyundai Tuscon recently. I had a Sonata before and wanted to get back into an SUV.. I like being higher up.

It's a nice ride! But I really hate the buying experience. It was brutal.

But I got the price I wanted.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 06, 2020 02:22 PM

and, the Hyundai Tuscon has better interior fit & finish than an $80,000 Tesla, so you gots that going for you

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 06, 2020 02:28 PM (DUIap)

88 NYPD doesnt investigate auto thefts anymore. My mom has a Compass that shuts off when stopped to save fuel. I dont see that idea lasting 200k. I think its a setting you can turn off. I looked into MB and Audi when my lease was up. Expensive to buy, maintain and operate. Thieves like them, too. I might get the Q7 or Telluride if i need a new family car or keep it and get a used Tacoma.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM (4vNgL)

89 My Explorer has 3 different settings, or levels of computer intervention, but you can turn the wheel to change lanes in all modes without a turn signal on. There's a "tugging" in the wheel when you have it set to the most sensitive position. The sensors around the body can "see" the painted lines and it can, if you set it up, try to keep you in your lane.

It'll also apply the brakes if it detects another object in front or behind you... again, if you set it. It will park itself both parallel and normal.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 06, 2020 02:27 PM (3H9h1)
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Yeesh. I don't even like cruise control.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM (Uhu8A)

90 You can put a lot of bodies in that trunk.

I was thinking ballots, but your idea is useful, too.

Posted by: Al Franken at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM (CTJwJ)

91 I have a 1st world problem with a 2013 Hyundai Santa Fe with 137,000 miles on it.
On the freeway, fast lane doing 75mph and the tach goes crazy and then the engine light comes on. DOH.
I get into the slow lane and then make my way up a nicely placed off ramp. California stop on the top, right turn, coast down across the Pilot Gas Station's entrance and the car stops. Dead, never to go again.
Wife called Hyundai, told them car was coming. They said we can't look at it until Tuesday (it's Thursday). Wife points out existing recall for engine bearing failure and the symptoms match. Son comes and picks us up (50 miles from town and he's at the other end of town Yea number 3 son!).
While driving home we get a call from dealership. Yup, we looked at your car. Yup, recall failure. Yup replacement engine and tran has been ordered. Would you like to do all this other *stuff* that we are sure you need done to the care? (Oh, hell no) Oh... we can tell you take great care of your care, I wouldn't do anything else either.
Oh... and come by and pick up the rental car that has been authorized for the 6-8 weeks until we're done.

3rd world problem you ask: The Hyundai Tucson is smaller than the Santa Fe. Whatever am I going to do?

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM (gtatv)

92 I'm going to get a 2003 Toyota pickup with a hastily-welded machinegun mount and an M60 or RPD.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM (nakwk)

93 I'd like to get an RV, but I'd have to get a self-contained Class A Motorcoach.

Insurance will kill you.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM (bkkvA)

94 NOtice that vehicle does not have a single sticker. No "They Can't Lick our Dick", or "Groovy Lives Here". Nothing !

They needed the stickers to hold the rear bumper on. They're structural!

Posted by: t-bird at December 06, 2020 02:30 PM (CTJwJ)

95 My Explorer has 3 different settings, or levels of computer intervention, but you can turn the wheel to change lanes in all modes without a turn signal on. There's a "tugging" in the wheel when you have it set to the most sensitive position. The sensors around the body can "see" the painted lines and it can, if you set it up, try to keep you in your lane.

It'll also apply the brakes if it detects another object in front or behind you... again, if you set it. It will park itself both parallel and normal.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 06, 2020 02:27 PM (3H9h1)

Can you send it out to pick up beer and a pizza?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

96 A/K/A the Mogadishu Custom Package

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:31 PM (nakwk)

97 I need a new* vehicle, Chev Tahoe or similar
I hope to be able to bargain with a dealer by offering cash in full up front instead of financing

*low miles, pre-owned

Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 06, 2020 02:31 PM (iTXRQ)

98

2003 Explorer limited that has wiring that mice evidently consider a delicacy and a 2004 Toy Solara that seems to be the suicide tool of choice for large coyotes and large raccoons.

Hopefully, between the two of em I'll have transportation until I'm laid to rest or see the lights turned out and the Glory of His parousia.

Gotta go.

Posted by: TeeJ at December 06, 2020 02:32 PM (H8mJH)

99 I'm going to get a 2003 Toyota pickup with a hastily-welded machinegun mount and an M60 or RPD.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM (nakwk)

White with beige pinstripes. Standard Al-Qaeda cruiser.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 06, 2020 02:32 PM (mZ8JI)

100 The only instance where it is acceptable to purchase a new car iscwhen you dont have cash. New cars are poooor investments.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at December 06, 2020 02:32 PM (93Mlk)

101 I'm going to get a 2003 Toyota pickup with a hastily-welded machinegun mount and an M60 or RPD.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM (nakwk)

Don't forget the Have A Nice Day sticker on the rear bumper. It shows you have panache.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:32 PM (guGkK)

102 NOtice that vehicle does not have a single sticker. No "They Can't Lick our Dick", or "Groovy Lives Here". Nothing !

They needed the stickers to hold the rear bumper on. They're structural!
Posted by: t-bird

Military 120 mph tape!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:33 PM (bkkvA)

103 And there would still be room for the quicklime!

I would imagine.
Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:26 PM (/669Q)
---

Always invest in a sturdy trunk liner.

Don't want the cops to notice...leaks.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 06, 2020 02:33 PM (Dc2NZ)

104 If I were to get a trailer it would be one of those little 2-person Airstreams

Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 06, 2020 02:33 PM (iTXRQ)

105 Had a neighbor, originally from Germany, that called cars like the one pictured above as "Ghetto Porsches"

Posted by: jollyr at December 06, 2020 02:33 PM (CbCI8)

106 The person who buys a new car takes the biggest hit when they drive it off the lot.

Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 02:33 PM (gtJ22)

107 NOtice that vehicle does not have a single sticker. No "They Can't Lick our Dick", or "Groovy Lives Here". Nothing !

They needed the stickers to hold the rear bumper on. They're structural!
Posted by: t-bird at December 06, 2020 02:30 PM (CTJwJ)

All those spare parts...

Here it comes...

Get ready....

CoExist.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 06, 2020 02:33 PM (axyOa)

108 Posted by: attila the irritable at December 06, 2020 02:28 PM (w7KSn)

Emissions related, is a good possibility.

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 02:34 PM (9UmRs)

109
I'm going to get a 2003 Toyota pickup with a hastily-welded machinegun mount and an M60 or RPD.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM

I know, right?

we should start drafting the design standards for The Horde Technicals

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 06, 2020 02:34 PM (DUIap)

110 >>New cars are poooor investments.

So are women. Yet, we persist.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 02:34 PM (ZLI7S)

111 the rental car that has been authorized for the 6-8 weeks until we're done.

Do you know how long a Hyundai dealer gives mechanics to put in a new engine? Nine hours. And they do it a lot.

Posted by: t-bird at December 06, 2020 02:34 PM (pbStR)

112
That picture must have been taken near Harrisburg in Houston.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 02:35 PM (mht8P)

113 Life is kinda funny

when I was 23 and made a lot of cash, I bought a new 1972 MB 280 SL

Now I'm almost 70 and have more cash and plod around in a 2005 Chevy 2500 HD, usually with a plow on it.

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (MIsHM)

114 I've only owned 2 cars so far (3 if you count the one I bought for the wife). I've bought all new. I understand the case for not buying new. But humans are revolting, and you'll never convince me that used cars can be cleaned enough to not make them vile. I understand I'm probably not being rational about this.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (H5knJ)

115 Speaking of cars: At red lights, I'm seeing see more and more people stopping almost a car-length behind the painted stop line. And more and more people in line behind the first car are stopping between one and two car-lengths behind the car in front of them.

What's up with this trend?

Posted by: Gref at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (AMIL/)

116 New cars are poooor investments.

So are women. Yet, we persist.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 02:34 PM (ZLI7S)
--------
I'd risk an investment in Karen Gillan. I'm feeling sporty.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (Uhu8A)

117 Hondas are no longer reliable: electronics issues, defective AC compressors and oil dilution. Make note!

Posted by: Desultory joe at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (L9P9s)

118 My car is 22 years old. It's a second millennium model.

Posted by: Jim S. at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (ynUnH)

119
That picture must have been taken near Harrisburg in Houston.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 02:35 PM

or just off "downtown" Ypsilanti, over by the student ghetto

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM (DUIap)

120
Her Majesty's 2013 Odyssey has about 280,000 miles on it. She wants to replace it. How we'd pay for it is another question.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM (mht8P)

121 Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:31 PM (nakwk)

Those are typically Hilux(ury).

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM (9UmRs)

122 104 If I were to get a trailer it would be one of those little 2-person Airstreams
Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 06, 2020 02:33 PM (iTXRQ)

I agree

Bambis are very cool

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM (MIsHM)

123 What I want for my next vehicle is (in the ideal world) a Ford F150, 4 WD, from not later than, say, 1972 ... something which has nothing that I can't remove and fix, with zero electronics besides an AM / FM radio.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM (/On2j)

124 If I were to get a trailer it would be one of those little 2-person Airstreams
Posted by: DB- just DB

Casita Trailers.
Made in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM (bkkvA)

125 That picture must have been taken near Harrisburg in Houston.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 02:35 PM (mht8P)

Not LA? It looks like a La Raza mobile.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (YqDXo)

126 I have a data reader, which permits me to turn off the check engine light.
I did so just before I took it to get CA smog check.
It passed.
Then the light came on again.

Posted by: attila the irritable at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (w7KSn)

127 I have bought 3 new SUVs. Two were S-15 Jimmys because I worked at a GM subsidiary. The last was a 2010 Escape.

In the market for a 2017 EL Expedition but they are scarce. Especially ones that are not colored white, silver or black.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (8Ou+H)

128 >>If I were to get a trailer it would be one of those little 2-person Airstreams

Had my eye on one for a while.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (ZLI7S)

129 What I want for my next vehicle is (in the ideal world) a Ford F150, 4 WD, from not later than, say, 1972 ... something which has nothing that I can't remove and fix, with zero electronics besides an AM / FM radio.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

*fistbump.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (bkkvA)

130 Is an SUV a manly minivan or a taller station wagon?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (EqxlQ)

131 Do not turn off ad blockers when visiting AceOfSpades. For three days, my anti-malware software is reporting that it's being fed a Phishing attempt from amazonaws.com.

I've e-mailed ace and it's still happening afer 3 days.

Posted by: SDN at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (K9d/B)

132

It kind of looks like the car in the Victory Auto Wreckers commercial. I wonder if it comes with the wide watchband the one guy in the commercial wore.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (UKhv3)

133 All my friends in high school had a car that looked like that, if they had one. In fact, most cars in Cleveland in the 70's looked just like that after about 3 of those hellish winters.

Posted by: Ripley at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (MxEKc)

134
Not LA? It looks like a La Raza mobile.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (YqDXo)

__________

Harrisburg is 80+% Hispanic.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (mht8P)

135 Given the low emission levels of modern engines, are smog checks just a scam, or what?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2020 02:39 PM (Uhu8A)

136 I put my mother-in-law in a new Kia Forte. Plenty of trunk space.

I keed. I actually like my MIL. And Kia/Hyundai really are a great value proposition. Good build quality, ride, and tech for the price.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at December 06, 2020 02:39 PM (uhPTO)

137 50 Martini Farmer - I was listening to Eric Peters, I think, who said that Ford vehicles have some system wherein the steering wheel will resist being turned if you haven't activated a turn signal. The idea is that it keeps people from drifting into oncoming traffic. Of course, it also fights you if you need to make a quick, unsignaled lane change. I haven't driven a new Ford, so I can't speak from experience. Does your Explorer have this, and can you turn it off, if so?
Posted by: PabloD isn't in a reconciliatory mood at December 06, 2020 02:19 PM (/LWj7)

My charger has that feature. It's part of the collision avoidance, and lane safety features. I can adjust the sensitivity of the lane keeping and the aggressiveness of the 'correction', or turn it off altogether.

I believe it's handled through the electric power steering and the LIDAR sensors built into the body. Also part of the adaptive cruise control for maintaining following distance.

Car is an absolute stealth muscle car with all the bells and whistles. Ton of fun to drive in 2mpg mode, equally fun to get 28mpg on the highway. Variable valve timing gives it some truly impressive low end torque. Scary sometimes.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 06, 2020 02:40 PM (VcFUs)

138
But, hey, it passed inspection. Which tells you the value of state inspections.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 02:40 PM (mht8P)

139 Not LA? It looks like a La Raza mobile.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (YqDXo)

The opera windows really class it up. I wonder if the owner likes Puccini.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:40 PM (guGkK)

140 Had an 8ft.1975 Coleman popup camper that I dragged all over the country for a time. Loved that thing. Could pick it up by the tongue to move and set it up in 10 minutes.

Posted by: dartist at December 06, 2020 02:41 PM (+ya+t)

141 130 Is an SUV a manly minivan or a taller station wagon?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (EqxlQ)

No. Trying to inject descriptors like Manly or Taller do not work with mini-vans or station wagons.

Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 02:41 PM (gtJ22)

142 I honestly think the Explorer could, if I was brave enough to try it, drive itself for a short distance with all the nanny shit turned on.

The auto braking is handy while in reverse so I don't hit something unintentionally. The adaptive cruise control is... interesting. However I typically drive it in "Sport" mode, manual shifting using the paddles (10 gears) and all the electronic shit off that I can turn off.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 06, 2020 02:41 PM (3H9h1)

143 Get yourself a white Kia Bongo - DIY a MLRS in the back!

Posted by: Fanoogeee at December 06, 2020 02:41 PM (ectFj)

144 By a collector car. As the age of collectors keep going up the more cars on the market and prices keep dropping. Just saw a 1964 Ford Thunderbird the other day in perfect shape. $12,500, it's just amazing.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 06, 2020 02:27 PM (4thlk)

Holy crap, I'd be all over that. My mother drove a 1964 T-Bird, it was silver-blue, I loved that thing. The instrument panel right out of a plane. So cool, so much chrome and steel.

I drive cars until they die pretty much. I still have my 2006 Infiniti M45 I bought used in 2008 w/160k. I need to throw a bunch of money at it now though, it needs the front end rebuilt and new rotors. That V8 is rough on the suspension.

I bought a 2016 Lexus back in April, right during the covid panic and riots. I had seen some insane deals on used cars, but they were drying up fast, so I jumped on this. Glad I did. I'd never buy a new car again unless I hit the lotto. I'd rather pay half price on something with 45k miles on it a couple of years old.

I gotta admit, it's sort of weird all the bells and whistles these new cars have - park assist, radar, etc. I can survive just fine without apple or google play, which is one of the bitches about the Lexus (I think they've finally added it).

I do wish for one thing on new cars - and that's a USB port or 2 up by the rear view mirror, and a 12V would be awesome. That way, you can actually stick a dash cam or radar detector in without having to route the wiring or have it dangling. They're already running power up there on most cars now anyway.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 02:42 PM (L8ADy)

145 I like browsing new but will never buy new. I have a 13 yo F150 under 95K miles. Hoping to pick up a used Raptor when this one pukes. 2030, maybe?

Posted by: Swallow the Rabbit Whole at December 06, 2020 02:42 PM (DB16e)

146 Women don't do 4/60 A/C anymore, I guess...

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 06, 2020 02:21
--------------------------
4/60 A/C. Haven't heard that phrase in years. Mom always preferred the 4/70 A/C. She said it cost a little more... in tickets, but was worth it.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 06, 2020 02:42 PM (iEx0u)

147
Casita Trailers.
Made in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM

This.

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 06, 2020 02:43 PM (DUIap)

148 I have a midlife crisis car - expensive gas guzzling car but damn if I don't look good in it.

Posted by: IC at December 06, 2020 02:43 PM (Nyumu)

149
We may be the only people who take a tape measure along when shopping for cars. The question is always, can you fit an 800 dog crate in the back?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 02:43 PM (mht8P)

150 My wife has had 3 Durangos and will have nothing else.

I do like driving it.

If I could install the driver's seat from the '03 into the '15, it would be an absolute dream.

The new seat is just OK.

Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 02:43 PM (gtJ22)

151 Last weekend, I bought a Honda Foreman sitting on the side of the road.

$400

yeah, it's beat to shit but I got it running

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:43 PM (MIsHM)

152 With help from the horde I bought a 2014 Tahoe in Spring 2019. Low mileage and I love it. Newest vehicle I have ever owned. Still miss the '72 chev pu and 2004 Yukon. The Yukon was pushing 300K and new parts were not cheap, not counting labor.

Posted by: Infidel at December 06, 2020 02:43 PM (QoPXA)

153 Casita Trailers.
Made in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM

Kinda remember driving by them

Italy TX, right

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:44 PM (MIsHM)

154 I've owned 6 cars my entire life: 1983 Dodge Colt; 1989 Volkswagen Jetta; 1998 GM Silverado 1500 Truck; 2005 Volkswagen Passat; and 2012 Audi A6 (current car).

Of all these, the truck was simply the best vehicle I ever owned. It was bullet proof and hauled the ski boat like a champ.

The worst by far has been the Audi. Its the supercharged version and is extremely costly to repair. OEM tires alone are over $3k to replace and only last 15k. I go with standard tires at 40k.

I'm going to buy a beater diesel truck and shit-can the Audi.

Posted by: Dansgirls at December 06, 2020 02:45 PM (V25ON)

155 I don't have a garage or a carport, since the township decided the Building Code matters. (Unlike my neighbor's unauthorized fence, which I'd have to take him to court over....)

Anyway, this meant that my beloved 11-year-old Saturn got a mix of sap and debris inside (squirrels?) that plugged the drainage and caused electrical system problems that forced me to hook up a charger for every start. I kept it running long enough to drive to a dealership and trade it in.

My current car, my first Ford, is going strong at 7+ years. 34-42 mpg. Heated seats and remote start.

But Saturn is gone and Ford isn't going to make sedans, and every manufacturer is pushing the EVs, which a chipmunk can sabotage under the hood if the rain doesn't. What the heck am I supposed to do?!?!

My baby bro told me to buy a sports car and replace it every two years. Ha ha.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 06, 2020 02:45 PM (fxCK2)

156 I hate haggling with car salespersons, so the last vehicle we bought, we had AAA buy it. Never seen it until we picked it up at AAA.

Posted by: Ronster at December 06, 2020 02:45 PM (P148V)

157 Casita Trailers.
Made in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM

Kinda remember driving by them

Italy TX, right
Posted by: REDACTED

Rice. Down 45.
Italy is down 35.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:45 PM (bkkvA)

158 Last weekend, I bought a Honda Foreman sitting on the side of the road.

$400

yeah, it's beat to shit but I got it running
Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:43 PM (MIsHM)

Be careful on that thing! They're more dangerous than motorcycles. I think the 4 wheels lulls people into a false sense of security.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 02:46 PM (L8ADy)

159 My 97 Camry looks OK, runs fine with only 90K miles ... I plan to drive it another 100K. Book value is around $600. My truck is is a 2007 with only about 20k miles ... I may never have to buy another vehicle for the road... until they force us to by solar powered cars that weight under 1000 pounds.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2020 02:46 PM (Cus5s)

160 I still have my second car, a cherry little '84 black Rabbit GTi, with no power steering nor A/C. In the Central Valley summers, you watch the H2O temp near the red zone at idle at every traffic light, praying that the thermostat isn't broken-- and it magically kicks in, to your great relief. Compared to today's lower-end economy models, the GTi has a painfully slow 0-60 time, and I'm constantly re-adjusting the shift linkage; however, get it on the country back roads, scrolling through 2nd to 4th gear (once said linkage is sorted), you can't have more fun in a 280,000 mile car. Plus, insurance is incredibly cheap, and it still gets 30 MPG.

I'm gonna be buried in it...one way or another.
IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: Armchair Sinner at December 06, 2020 02:47 PM (Nig2g)

161
Casita Trailers.
Made in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM

__________

Unfortunately, no generator.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 02:47 PM (mht8P)

162 When the car turns 16, it can be licensed to drive itself. *taps temple with index finger*

Posted by: Gilded at December 06, 2020 02:47 PM (6CVUT)

163 I'm going to buy a beater diesel truck and shit-can the Audi.
Posted by: Dansgirls at December 06, 2020 02:45 PM (V25ON)

old Audis are guaranteed to leak from every seal at 100K

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:47 PM (MIsHM)

164
while it is quite old (13 years!)

A GM product? Barely broken in.

(Thus saith the MOPAR fan.)

And any sort of sensor like you've got qualifies as "new-fangled".

Posted by: Gooshy at December 06, 2020 02:47 PM (wU1IM)

165 >I hate haggling with car salespersons, so the last vehicle we bought, we had AAA buy it. Never seen it until we picked it up at AAA.
Posted by: Ronster

tell me more

Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 06, 2020 02:48 PM (iTXRQ)

166 Insom has the best idea. Hilux, ftw. Not sure I'm sold on the M60, but a strong choice.

I've heard from a couple guys that they found them to have reliability issues, though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 06, 2020 02:48 PM (BvLWD)

167 141 130 Is an SUV a manly minivan or a taller station wagon?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (EqxlQ)

No. Trying to inject descriptors like Manly or Taller do not work with mini-vans or station wagons.
Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 02:41 PM (gtJ22)

A minivan drops your total testosterone levels to double digits. It's science, don't even try to argue.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:48 PM (nakwk)

168 Do not turn off ad blockers when visiting AceOfSpades. For three days, my anti-malware software is reporting that it's being fed a Phishing attempt from amazonaws.com.

Posted by: SDN at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (K9d/B)

I've been getting those too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:48 PM (YqDXo)

169 A minivan drops your total testosterone levels to double digits. It's science, don't even try to argue.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:48 PM (nakwk)

FINE!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:49 PM (YqDXo)

170 Be careful on that thing! They're more dangerous than motorcycles. I think the 4 wheels lulls people into a false sense of security.
Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 02:46 PM (L8ADy)

Life is the false sense of security

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:49 PM (MIsHM)

171 It kind of looks like the car in the Victory Auto Wreckers commercial. I
wonder if it comes with the wide watchband the one guy in the
commercial wore.

Blast from the past! They came and picked up every $100 beater that quit on me and paid me $35 to boot. I even had a watchband like that. I wonder if they're still in business.

Posted by: dartist at December 06, 2020 02:49 PM (+ya+t)

172 I worked at a Mitsubishi dealer for a while. They sold a subcompact actually made by Hyundai. It was sold it as a Mitsubishi Precis. We called it the Feces.

Posted by: Javems at December 06, 2020 02:49 PM (8SSHh)

173 Refund?! Refund?! Refund?!

Posted by: Dad from Breaking Away at December 06, 2020 02:49 PM (R/m4+)

174 My first car was a '66 Chevelle. To this day I regret selling it. I've owned about a dozen or 14 vehicles over the years ranging from that Chevelle to a Plymouth Laser (Mitsubishi), an E36 BMW, a '74 Porsche 914 and a couple pickup trucks. A bunch of shit cars in-between too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 06, 2020 02:50 PM (3H9h1)

175 148 I have a midlife crisis car - expensive gas guzzling car but damn if I don't look good in it.
Posted by: IC at December 06, 2020 02:43 PM (Nyumu)

I have considered doing this, just for shits and giggles. Which screams midlife crisis louder, a Dodge Challenger or Chevy Camaro SS?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:50 PM (nakwk)

176 A minivan drops your total testosterone levels to double digits. It's science, don't even try to argue.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:48 PM (nakwk)

Say, are double digits guaranteed?

Posted by: David French at December 06, 2020 02:50 PM (guGkK)

177 115 Speaking of cars: At red lights, I'm seeing see more and more people stopping almost a car-length behind the painted stop line. And more and more people in line behind the first car are stopping between one and two car-lengths behind the car in front of them.

What's up with this trend?
Posted by: Gref at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (AMIL/)

I do that so i won't get pushed into the vehicle infront of me, or pushed into the intersection, when some distracted driver plows into me while stopped

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 06, 2020 02:50 PM (VcFUs)

178 I hate haggling with car salespersons, so the last vehicle we bought, we had AAA buy it. Never seen it until we picked it up at AAA.
Posted by: Ronster at December 06, 2020 02:45 PM (P148V)

The online things are getting popular, and the buy back guarantees (CarMax) make it compelling. There's a used car place near me I'd use again, my experience there was awesome. But, they specialize in just a few brands, so I wound up buying my car - also site unseen from a dealer in SoCal and had it shipped. There was very little inventory then and now in my area for what I was looking for, so I took the gamble.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 02:50 PM (L8ADy)

179 I have considered doing this, just for shits and giggles. Which screams midlife crisis louder, a Dodge Challenger or Chevy Camaro SS?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:50 PM (nakwk)

Good Lord do not buy a Camaro....

A Scat Pack Challenger is the way to go.

Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 02:50 PM (gtJ22)

180 If I had an AOP in my life I'd be buying a 2nd older pickup. Not classic car vintage but old enough not to have a DEF system nor an overlord spying system AKA "on-star"

I do have a neighbor who is a diesel mechanic that keeps my current truck going and will be a good resource when I need to replace it.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 06, 2020 02:51 PM (Aashi)

181 Casita Trailers.
Made in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:37 PM

Can't fit my UTV in it. Need some type of toy hauler.

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 02:51 PM (9UmRs)

182 My current vehicles.

1929 Ford Model AA truck
1964 Ford F-100, 292 Y-Block
2001 Ford F-150

I guess I like Ford Pick-ups.Sold my 1984 Ford Bronco II a about a year back, was hardly driving it anymore, hated to see it sit.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 06, 2020 02:51 PM (4thlk)

183 Do not turn off ad blockers when visiting AceOfSpades. For three days, my anti-malware software is reporting that it's being fed a Phishing attempt from amazonaws.com.

Posted by: SDN at December 06, 2020 02:38 PM (K9d/B)

I've been getting those too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:48 PM (YqDXo)

Amazonaws is a spam factory. If you have a business don't rely on their email facility because they are blocked by almost everyone.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 06, 2020 02:52 PM (AiZBA)

184 The way roads have deteriorated, I drive nothing but pickup trucks.

Posted by: Archer at December 06, 2020 02:52 PM (iI6/F)

185 Dad smoked so mom had no choice. We had AMC's Hornet, Gremlin and Pacer. They were always getting something fixed. My brother got drunk and parked the Gremlin in Amawalk resevoir.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 06, 2020 02:52 PM (4vNgL)

186 My current vehicles.

1929 Ford Model AA truck

I didn't even know there was an AA model. That's clever marketing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:52 PM (guGkK)

187 I have a 2009 Subaru Outback with 66k miles. I bought it new.

Standard transmission, AWD and drivable in every condition. I'd like to eventually tow a little teardrop trailer behind it for a cross country trip.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 06, 2020 02:53 PM (U2p+3)

188 I just realized I have a first-world problem. I bought a wine Advent calendar from Costco in October, I think, and I just remembered that it's sitting out there in the garage, unopened.

Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:53 PM (/669Q)

189 Speaking of cars: At red lights, I'm seeing see more and more people stopping almost a car-length behind the painted stop line. And more and more people in line behind the first car are stopping between one and two car-lengths behind the car in front of them.

What's up with this trend?
Posted by: Gref at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (AMIL/)

I do that so i won't get pushed into the vehicle infront of me, or pushed into the intersection, when some distracted driver plows into me while stopped
Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 06, 2020 02:50 PM (VcFUs)

Sounds like CA. But, they like to sneak up on the limit line/crosswalk. So, they stop about 20' back, and slowly move forward. I HATE THAT! So, I'll sit there and after 30 seconds there's like 2 car lengths between me and the idiot. Then there's the ones that won't roll forward, and don't trigger the fucking wires for the light to change. Or, they're out in the crosswalk, and again not over the wires. I think half the time they're consumed by their phones.

The illegals aren't a problem, they just run the red lights.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 02:53 PM (L8ADy)

190 177 115 Speaking of cars: At red lights, I'm seeing see more and more people stopping almost a car-length behind the painted stop line. And more and more people in line behind the first car are stopping between one and two car-lengths behind the car in front of them.

What's up with this trend?
Posted by: Gref at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (AMIL/)

I do that so i won't get pushed into the vehicle infront of me, or pushed into the intersection, when some distracted driver plows into me while stopped

In our area, the white crosswalk has sensors if you drive your car over it, triggering the red light camera. You could conceivably just stop on the crosswalk, not running the red light, and still get a hefty ticket.

We always stop well behind it to avoid such a scenario.

Posted by: Moki at December 06, 2020 02:53 PM (+X9Vs)

191 "Speaking of cars: At red lights, I'm seeing see more and more people stopping almost a car-length behind the painted stop line. And more and more people in line behind the first car are stopping between one and two car-lengths behind the car in front of them.

What's up with this trend?
Posted by: Gref at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (AMIL/)

I've noticed that, too, since the 'rona started. People are that paranoid.

Posted by: fly gal at December 06, 2020 02:54 PM (sQq+E)

192 Can't fit my UTV in it. Need some type of toy hauler.
Posted by: clutch

When you do, make damn sure it has a wall between the "garage" and sleeping area.

Unless you like smelling fuel and oil. Friends found that out the hard way.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:54 PM (bkkvA)

193 115 Speaking of cars: At red lights, I'm seeing see more and more people stopping almost a car-length behind the painted stop line. And more and more people in line behind the first car are stopping between one and two car-lengths behind the car in front of them.

What's up with this trend?
Posted by: Gref at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (AMIL/)

I'm amused by people who stop way back of the car in front of them, and then gradually creep up, bit by bit, until the light changes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:54 PM (YqDXo)

194 I accidentally posted in the previous thread...oops!

Does that count as a FWP?

Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 06, 2020 02:54 PM (5FCda)

195
Our ideal RV or travel trailer would have a bed, toilet, microwave, refrigerator and table. That's it. No foo-foo that takes up space.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 02:54 PM (mht8P)

196 My 2010 Lincoln Navigator has 185,000 on it and my 2004 Range Rover has 166,000.

I think my wife's Navigator has about 4,500 mile on it now.

Posted by: jwest at December 06, 2020 02:55 PM (/BlEx)

197 The Yukon I just bought will be 20 next year. It has 275000 miles on it. It was well maintained and the interior is worn but comfortable. I wasn't able to come up with an older car in good shape. I expect to need to replace things but it's very capable of moving me cross country. First 2000 era car I've owned and first 4x4.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 06, 2020 02:55 PM (YynYJ)

198 I have had 2 cars, 1st used, 2nd new and 3 new trucks the first two ran until they dropped. Most likely last new truck so it better last some years longer.

Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2020 02:55 PM (9sWOw)

199 Speaking of cars: At red lights, I'm seeing see more and more people stopping almost a car-length behind the painted stop line. And more and more people in line behind the first car are stopping between one and two car-lengths behind the car in front of them.

What's up with this trend?
Posted by: Gref at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (AMIL/)

Social Distancing for Dummies.

Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 02:55 PM (gtJ22)

200 There are some damn nice toy haulers out there.
You can definitely drop some $ on them.

Posted by: attila the irritable at December 06, 2020 02:55 PM (w7KSn)

201 I think the red light spacing with cars is due to COVID fear.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 06, 2020 02:56 PM (3H9h1)

202 A 2005 Volvo S40. 112K miles. Any thoughts from the Horde?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 06, 2020 02:06 PM (7Fj9P)

I would bump it up to the S60.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 06, 2020 02:56 PM (xT2tT)

203 My wife's vehicle is a 2013 Ford Flex we bought new. It has 15,000 original miles. She want to bye the new bronco. I drive a 2017 Ford F-150 with 25,000 original miles.

Posted by: Archer at December 06, 2020 02:56 PM (iI6/F)

204 Sounds like CA. But, they like to sneak up on the limit line/crosswalk. So, they stop about 20' back, and slowly move forward. I HATE THAT! So, I'll sit there and after 30 seconds there's like 2 car lengths between me and the idiot.

Sorry, just saw this. I hate it, too. If you close up to the original distance, when they creep up further you once again are way behind them.

Hey, assholes, how about just stopping and staying in one place until the light changes?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

205 I have an 05 350 parked until I can put a new engine in it.

I'm sorely tempted to go third gen 4runner for my replacement and while I attemp to fix the z myself, which is vanity but I don't care.

Any horde thoughts?

Posted by: TexasDan at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (mp6X5)

206 I have a 2009 Subaru Outback with 66k miles. I bought it new.

Standard transmission, AWD and drivable in every condition. I'd like to eventually tow a little teardrop trailer behind it for a cross country trip.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 06, 2020 02:53 PM (U2p+3)

Their 4 banger boxer engine is bullet proof, the standard transmission is 100% the way to go. Their autos have issues. Configured like that, it'll last ages. 66k is barely broken in.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (L8ADy)

207 201 I think the red light spacing with cars is due to COVID fear.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 06, 2020 02:56 PM (3H9h1)

Cars can catch the virus too?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

208 I think the red light spacing with cars is due to COVID fear.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 06, 2020 02:56 PM (3H9h1)

Best to tape a big plastic sheet across your grille.

#WereAllInThisTogether

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (guGkK)

209 I bought my new 1972 MB 280 SL in early 1973

a beauty, signal red with palomino interior

cost me a little less than 10K

and I sold it 10 years later with about 24 K miles on it for $25,000

and yeah, it was a very cool car for tearing off tail in

it was still a bad investment

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (MIsHM)

210 "I didn't even know there was an AA model. That's clever marketing."

They were Ford's big trucks back in the day. Long frame and geared down transmission. They sold most of them without any box so the customer could customize it for their needs. Ford made a Model TT truck previously also.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 06, 2020 02:58 PM (4thlk)

211 When my daughter had behind-the-wheel training 7 years ago, the instructor had the kids stop with enough space so they could see the full back tires of the car in front of them. Even back then distracted driving was a problem so I think that was to build in a cushion in case someone ran into them at the light.

Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:58 PM (/669Q)

212 Those new automatic LED high-beams should be outlawed, stat.

Posted by: Armchair Sinner at December 06, 2020 02:58 PM (Nig2g)

213 When you do, make damn sure it has a wall between the "garage" and sleeping area.

Unless you like smelling fuel and oil. Friends found that out the hard way.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 02:54 PM (bkkvA)

Yeah, just me and the bird dog, so we're trying to figure it out. Thanks

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 02:58 PM (9UmRs)

214 Best to tape a big plastic sheet across your grille.

#WereAllInThisTogether
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (guGkK)

We should start spreading the rumor that you should seal up your vehicle doors and windows with gutter sealant to keep Covid out.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 06, 2020 02:59 PM (aKqzO)

215 Back when they still taught Driver's Ed in HS, instructor said you should be able to see the rear tires of car in front when stopped. That way when the POS stalls you can pull around it. He was a former Marine.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 06, 2020 02:59 PM (iEx0u)

216 the instructor had the kids stop with enough space
so they could see the full back tires of the car in front of them.

Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:58 PM (/669Q)

I was retaught how to drive by professionals (you know who), and that is what they taught me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 06, 2020 02:59 PM (xT2tT)

217 92 I'm going to get a 2003 Toyota pickup with a hastily-welded machinegun mount and an M60 or RPD.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2020 02:29 PM (nakwk

Ma Deuce or go home.

Maybe one of the mini guns. Maybe. In 7.62 NATO.

Posted by: Worf at December 06, 2020 03:00 PM (tEZwJ)

218 18 years ago, I bought a 1996 Saturn SC1 with 70K miles for $4K cash. I just had to retire it this summer. Very few bells and whistles, but blessed me way beyond what I spent. No wonder GM stopped making them.

Posted by: Fortcoins at December 06, 2020 03:00 PM (nV60k)

219 200 There are some damn nice toy haulers out there.
You can definitely drop some $ on them.
Posted by: attila the irritable at December 06, 2020 02:55 PM (w7KSn)

Trying to prevent doing the $ thing. Ideally a converted cargo trailer.

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 03:00 PM (9UmRs)

220 Heh, come to NYC where you use all available space or you get squeezed out. Stop 20' short of the light and people will just go around you. BTW, the whole city is being wired for photo enforcement.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 06, 2020 03:00 PM (4vNgL)

221 Those new automatic LED high-beams should be outlawed, stat.
Posted by: Armchair Sinner at December 06, 2020 02:58 PM (Nig2g)

yes. I thought they got rid of them, but now I am seeing them again.

Posted by: runner at December 06, 2020 03:00 PM (zr5Kq)

222 I was retaught how to drive by professionals (you know who), and that is what they taught me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 06, 2020 02:59 PM (xT2tT)

Retaught?

Look, fat, I forget my shoes sometimes but that's hardcore.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 06, 2020 03:01 PM (guGkK)

223 tell me more

Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 06, 2020 02:48 PM (iTXRQ)

Join AAA. They have a vehicle buying service, new or used. Tell them the make, model, color, etc. that you want. They will go shopping for one. You may not get exactly what you want as far as options, but it will darn close.

Posted by: Ronster at December 06, 2020 03:01 PM (P148V)

224 I love the Ford Flex.
Not terribly economical, but you can seat up to 8 in it.
No longer being manufactured.

Posted by: attila the irritable at December 06, 2020 03:01 PM (w7KSn)

225 Dillon minivans. Repetitive proton hits resulting in multiple SEUs.

Posted by: Worf at December 06, 2020 03:01 PM (tEZwJ)

226 Posted by: TexasDan at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (mp6X5)

6.0L diesel on the 350?

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 03:01 PM (9UmRs)

227
That way when the POS stalls you can pull around it. He was a former Marine.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 06, 2020 02:59 PM (iEx0u)

________

That way when the POS 18-year-old who's texting runs into the back of you, you don't get your front end smashed too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 03:01 PM (mht8P)

228 When my daughter had behind-the-wheel training 7 years ago, the
instructor had the kids stop with enough space so they could see the
full back tires of the car in front of them. Even back then distracted
driving was a problem so I think that was to build in a cushion in case
someone ran into them at the light.

That's the way I was taught, way back when. And the idea is to have that extra space in case you get rear-ended. If you can pry the sheet metal off your rear tires after the wreck, you might just drive home.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at December 06, 2020 03:02 PM (SchxB)

229 We should start spreading the rumor that you should seal up your vehicle doors and windows with gutter sealant to keep Covid out.
Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 06, 2020 02:59 PM (aKqzO)

Too late. At phys.org there is an article titled: "Research reveals how airflow inside a car may affect COVID-19 transmission risk".

It's SCIENCE!

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 06, 2020 03:02 PM (AiZBA)

230 211 When my daughter had behind-the-wheel training 7 years ago, the instructor had the kids stop with enough space so they could see the full back tires of the car in front of them. Even back then distracted driving was a problem so I think that was to build in a cushion in case someone ran into them at the light.

Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:58 PM (/669Q)
---------------

And to make sure she had enough room to exit the lane in case of an emergency.
(thugs beating on her window)

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:02 PM (CZm2G)

231 vehicle is a 2013 Ford Flex we bought new. It has 15,000 original miles. She want to bye the new bronco. I drive a 2017 Ford F-150 with 25,000 original miles.
Posted by: Archer at December 06, 2020 02:56 PM

...

I love the idea of the new bronco.

We will see how it turns out.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 06, 2020 03:02 PM (mp6X5)

232 stop with enough space so they could see the full back tires of the car in front of them.
____________________

I am a seasonal driver for a package handling company and the school taught this as well. Room in case of a rear end collision and room to maneuver around in case the car in front is unable to move.

Posted by: Swallow the Rabbit Whole at December 06, 2020 03:02 PM (DB16e)

233 I think I may have mentioned this before but during the first round of lockdown in Cali, my husband stopped at a red light with his window down and an older lady in a Subaru in the next lane yelled at him for not social distancing. He didn't respond but gave her that look one reserves for crazy people.

Posted by: IC at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (Nyumu)

234
>>New cars are poooor investments.

So are women. Yet, we persist.
Posted by: JackStraw

New or used?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (63Dwl)

235 209
I bought my new 1972 MB 280 SL in early 1973

a beauty, signal red with palomino interior

cost me a little less than 10K

and I sold it 10 years later with about 24 K miles on it for $25,000

and yeah, it was a very cool car for tearing off tail in

it was still a bad investment

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (MIsHM)

In 1973 I was looking at the Mercedes SL, a Jag XKE and a TR6. Ended up with the TR6. It was about a 1/3 the price of the others. Wish I had bought the Jag. It was $9,300. Had I bought it I would have probably stayed in the Army. Talk about a life changer.

Posted by: Javems at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (8SSHh)

236 When they succeed in convincing people that the air they breathe is poison they shall have won.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (CZm2G)

237 They are reaching now.

First World Problems:

How Airflow Inside a Car May Affect COVID-19 Transmission Risk - What Works Best for Windows and Ventilation

https://tinyurl.com/yypshx2f

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (bkkvA)

238
We should start spreading the rumor that you should seal up your vehicle doors and windows with gutter sealant to keep Covid out.
Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 06, 2020 02:59 PM (aKqzO)

And then run the exhaust through the passenger cabin for killing of any spurious 'rona virus spicules

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (VcFUs)

239 188 I just realized I have a first-world problem. I bought a wine Advent calendar from Costco in October, I think, and I just remembered that it's sitting out there in the garage, unopened.

Posted by: bluebell at December 06, 2020 02:53 PM (/669Q)

You have six days of catching up to do, get to it!!!

Posted by: Moki at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (+X9Vs)

240 Hey, assholes, how about just stopping and staying in one place until the light changes?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

I don't know if they feel like they have to do something, anything while they're sitting there. It especially sucks when they're blocking access to a left turn lane that's about to turn green.

I don't know. In CA they stopped with the extensive driver's ed classes, so people don't have any clue about general etiquette. Back when I was getting my license, I took a private course - the guy's name was Harry Robottom. Can't forget that. Learned to drive in fucking San Francisco in 1973. Trial by fire, especially with a manual transmission.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (L8ADy)

241 Here's the link for the Algorithm being broken.

https://tinyurl.com/y4td4jor
Posted by: jsg

I don't know, 26% isn't much, is it?

Posted by: The Cajun Detective Agency at December 06, 2020 03:04 PM (vOGqy)

242 Retaught?

Look, fat, I forget my shoes sometimes but that's hardcore.
Posted by: Joe Biden at December 06, 2020 03:01 PM (guGkK)

IKR

we always called it "reought"

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 03:04 PM (MIsHM)

243 61 jsg That is what I think we are looking for. How does it get into official court papers?

Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2020 03:04 PM (9sWOw)

244 New cars are poooor investments.

So are women. Yet, we persist.
Posted by: JackStraw

New or used?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 03:04 PM (bkkvA)

245 rickb223, your comment at 237 followed by mine at 238 are prophetic.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 06, 2020 03:04 PM (VcFUs)

246
I laugh bitterly at the advice of leaving two car lengths between you and the vehicle in front on the freeway. In Houston about three cars will try to get in that space.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 03:05 PM (mht8P)

247 234, lol. New cars are never investments. But they can be fun.

Posted by: IC at December 06, 2020 03:05 PM (Nyumu)

248 In our area, the white crosswalk has sensors if you drive your car over
it, triggering the red light camera. You could conceivably just stop on
the crosswalk, not running the red light, and still get a hefty ticket.

Same here. They send you the ticket, jack up late fee's and pull your plates eventually. They set the yellow light a lot shorter too.

Posted by: dartist at December 06, 2020 03:05 PM (+ya+t)

249 Most people impute a lot more value to a car than just a tool for mobility.

Class, gender, values,...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2020 03:05 PM (EZebt)

250 I love the idea of the new bronco.

We will see how it turns out.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 06, 2020 03:02 PM (mp6X5)

Ive driven one, like it a lot.

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 03:05 PM (9UmRs)

251 The previously mentioned car, that is now 20 years old, I bought it new. Paid cash for it.
I still drive it.

Posted by: attila the irritable at December 06, 2020 03:05 PM (w7KSn)

252 That way when the POS 18-year-old who's texting runs into the back of you, you don't get your front end smashed too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 03:01
----------------------------------
True, but when I took Driver's Ed. we still had rotary phones. Couldn't text on those.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 06, 2020 03:06 PM (iEx0u)

253 226 Posted by: TexasDan at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (mp6X5)

6.0L diesel on the 350?
Posted by: clutch at December

..

Ha.

There is the temptation of an LS swap, but a) I don't know what I'm doing though that doesn't usually stop me and b) yeah the aftermarket is cheaper but by the time you buy the conversion kits and a wiring harness band figure out the throttle to try to keep cruise control working...I'm just going to stick with the original VQ.

Maybe cams and headers but keep it NA with a tune.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 06, 2020 03:06 PM (mp6X5)

254 We should start spreading the rumor that you should seal up your vehicle doors and windows with gutter sealant to keep Covid out.
Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 06, 2020 02:59 PM (aKqzO)

Too late. At phys.org there is an article titled: "Research reveals how airflow inside a car may affect COVID-19 transmission risk".

It's SCIENCE!
Posted by: DR.WTF

See #237. I have the link.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 03:06 PM (bkkvA)

255 We are loving our 17-year-old and 12-year-old cars and I am dreading the day we must replace them. For every useful and desirable new feature they add to cars, it seems they add features that are just stupid, like touch-screen controls that require you to look at the screen (instead of the road) to adjust the climate control or the radio. I like dials I can adjust by feel.

I don't even like anti-lock brakes because they interfere with my braking control on slick surfaces. I just can't bring myself to slam on brakes when sliding and let the brakes take over, but that's about all you can do if you have anti-locks.

/curmudgeon

Posted by: Emmie, not Emmy at December 06, 2020 03:06 PM (ofYez)

256 In my tablet that is difficult to get to saw many precincts with exactly 20 Trump votes with hundreds of Sundowner votes. If there is for instance 20 precincts with exactly the same amount votes seems odd to me.

Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2020 03:07 PM (9sWOw)

257 It's a lot easier to buy GNRC or SUN to make one's cash

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 03:07 PM (MIsHM)

258 246 - Yeah. The driving habits here make me hunger for a Mad Max style apocalypse. We've already got the apocalypse driving. May as well add in the ability to respond with vehicle to vehicle combat.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2020 03:07 PM (H5knJ)

259 rickb223, your comment at 237 followed by mine at 238 are prophetic.
Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron

Horde mind is scary.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 06, 2020 03:08 PM (bkkvA)

260 243 61 jsg That is what I think we are looking for. How does it get into official court papers?
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2020 03:04 PM (9sWOw)

I would hope someone is working on that now.

Posted by: jsg at December 06, 2020 03:08 PM (gtJ22)

261 My mechanic tells me that new Toyotas hold their re-sale value better than many other vehicles, so there is not much difference in cost between a new vs 2 year old model. I have looked at prices and his words serm to bear some truth. *shrugs* Maybe that's true for most cars these days. Haven't car-shopped for 20 years.

Posted by: fly gal at December 06, 2020 03:08 PM (sQq+E)

262 199
Speaking of cars: At red lights, I'm seeing see more and more people
stopping almost a car-length behind the painted stop line. And more and
more people in line behind the first car are stopping between one and
two car-lengths behind the car in front of them.

What's up with this trend?

Posted by: Gref at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (AMIL/)

---
that's been going on for awhile here in #Failifornia...

supposedly, it's something DMV testers have been gonging people on in driving tests.

what's funny is that, in many intersections, if you don't pull up onto the MAD sensor*, you'll be waiting a long time for a green light.

*those circles with a line coming off them to the curb? that's what they are.

set back from the line, they tell the system to either extend the length of green a bit, or, if you get there in the sweet spot of the cycle, you get a green arrow for a protected turn, usually left.

there is one near my house, where i have to turn to get to the freeway, so i'll always stop on the pad. people will pull up behind me and honk.

when i ignore them, the go around and drive up to the line. the arrow goes green, and, 9 out of 10, i pull up behind them, horn blaring, while they are blissfully unaware of the arrow. sometimes, i even end up going around them, to make the turn, which always gets them excited.

we're raised several generations of happy idiots out here.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 06, 2020 03:08 PM (EQMiV)

263
May as well add in the ability to respond with vehicle to vehicle combat.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2020 03:07 PM (H5knJ)

_________

Her Majesty wants a Ma Deuce on her next car.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 03:09 PM (mht8P)

264 Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 02:57 PM (MIsHM)

In 1973 I was looking at the Mercedes SL, a Jag XKE and a TR6. Ended up with the TR6. It was about a 1/3 the price of the others. Wish I had bought the Jag. It was $9,300. Had I bought it I would have probably stayed in the Army. Talk about a life changer.
Posted by: Javems at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (8SSHh)

and you would have become an expert on reharnessing

what a pity

Posted by: REDACTED at December 06, 2020 03:09 PM (MIsHM)

265 I don't even like anti-lock brakes because they interfere with my braking control on slick surfaces. I just can't bring myself to slam on brakes when sliding and let the brakes take over, but that's about all you can do if you have anti-locks.

/curmudgeon
Posted by: Emmie, not Emmy at December 06, 2020 03:06 PM (ofYez)

The anti-skid tech on my Ford saved my life twice. I didn't even know it was working because I did slide, but it compensated. Much better than that shuddering anti-lock in my old car.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 06, 2020 03:09 PM (fxCK2)

266 Here's the link for the Algorithm being broken.

https://tinyurl.com/y4td4jor
Posted by: jsg

I don't know, 26% isn't much, is it?
Posted by: The Cajun Detective Agency at December 06, 2020 03:04 PM (vOGqy)

LOL, I actually have a tab open to Robb right now. I see that somebody posted an article from the Wash Ex from some guy in GA saying nobody has a machine, but for the moment I'll go with anybody but the Washington Examiner. Of course he'd say nobody accessed the machine.

Also on that thread I believe there's a link to a YT channel from a guy that claims he broke the algorithm. He's got 2 videos, one is 2 1/2 hours long that gets into the weeds, and another shorter "layman" version.

I haven't had a chance to get through either yet.

https://youtu.be/3pVAKm8JqvU

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 03:10 PM (L8ADy)

267 nood - cheese

Posted by: Gilded at December 06, 2020 03:10 PM (6CVUT)

268 Blast from the past! They came and picked up every
$100 beater that quit on me and paid me $35 to boot. I even had a
watchband like that. I wonder if they're still in business.

Posted by: dartist at December 06, 2020 02:49 PM (+ya+t)

Yes they are. Still in Bensenville. Although I haven't seen a commercial of theirs in a while.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 06, 2020 03:10 PM (J/mmb)

269 Things are getting uglier by the moment in GA. It's really starting to look like Republican leadership was as much to blame for the fraud as the Democrats.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 03:10 PM (ZLI7S)

270 Her Majesty wants a Ma Deuce on her next car.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2020 03:09 PM (mht8P)

Let her know that belt-fed weapons require a crew, and they're expensive.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2020 03:10 PM (guGkK)

271 248 In our area, the white crosswalk has sensors if you drive your car over
it, triggering the red light camera. You could conceivably just stop on
the crosswalk, not running the red light, and still get a hefty ticket.

Same here. They send you the ticket, jack up late fee's and pull your plates eventually. They set the yellow light a lot shorter too.
Posted by: dartist at December 06, 2020 03:05 PM (+ya+t)

I've noticed that too. Which is how I had one of the POS kids texting on her phone crash into the back of my van a couple of years ago. The light changed so I stopped. In the rear view, I saw her coming and not looking up from the damn phone.

Hospital, two surgeries, neck brace, etc, and of course she didn't have insurance. We got to pay those pretty bills ourselves.

Posted by: Moki at December 06, 2020 03:11 PM (+X9Vs)

272 Learned to drive in fucking San Francisco in 1973. Trial by fire, especially with a manual transmission.
Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (L8ADy)

===

*fistbump*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2020 03:11 PM (EZebt)

273 Got the bug for a new vehicle and enjoyed a couple of days window shopping the net. My vehicle is mechanically reliable and comfortable.

The money I would spend on a new vehicle vs putting that money to better use answered the question for me.

Hello, Vanguard?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:11 PM (CZm2G)

274 "It's really starting to look like Republican leadership was as much to blame for the fraud as the Democrats."

So, the much maligned Lin Wood may be correct.

Posted by: attila the irritable at December 06, 2020 03:11 PM (w7KSn)

275 269 Things are getting uglier by the moment in GA. It's really starting to look like Republican leadership was as much to blame for the fraud as the Democrats.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 03:10 PM (ZLI7S)

More. And that goes nationally.

Posted by: Gilded at December 06, 2020 03:11 PM (6CVUT)

276 I often wonder if there isn't enough of a niche market for a car/truck with no extra gadgets/computer/touch screens, et al.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 06, 2020 03:12 PM (iEx0u)

277 I used a local program called Auto Mentors that sounds a lot like that AAA program. My credit union had info about it. I started looking in July, but there was a shortage of vehicles. He found this last month. I did test drive it and it was checked by a third party mechanic. They fixed the few things that needed to be done. And they changed over the tags for me (Oregon car).

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 06, 2020 03:13 PM (YynYJ)

278 >Posted by: Ronster at December 06, 2020 03:01 PM (P148V)

thanks

Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 06, 2020 03:13 PM (iTXRQ)

279 In 1973 I was looking at the Mercedes SL, a Jag XKE and a TR6. Ended up with the TR6. It was about a 1/3 the price of the others. Wish I had bought the Jag. It was $9,300. Had I bought it I would have probably stayed in the Army. Talk about a life changer.
Posted by: Javems at December 06, 2020 03:03 PM (8SSHh)

Both the SL and XKE are commanding insane prices now, the Triumph not so much. IIRC, that was also about as shitty a year as you could get in any of those cars. I do like the TR6, personally I'd love a TR3A.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 03:13 PM (L8ADy)

280 still have my second car, a cherry little '84 black Rabbit GTi, with no power steering nor A/C. In the Central Valley summers, you watch the H2O temp near the red zone at idle at every traffic light, praying that the thermostat isn't broken-- and it magically kicks in, to your great relief. Compared to today's lower-end economy models, the GTi has a painfully slow 0-60 time, and I'm constantly re-adjusting the shift linkage; however, get it on the country back roads, scrolling through 2nd to 4th gear (once said linkage is sorted), you can't have more fun in a 280,000 mile car. Plus, insurance is incredibly cheap, and it still gets 30 MPG.

I'm gonna be buried in it...one way or another.
IYKWIMAITTYD.
Posted by: Armchair Sinner

We had an 84 VW Fox hybrid (1/2 VW and 1/2 Audi). Used as a commuter car, we put 360,000 miles on her. Our German mechanic finally told us he couldn't repair her anymore. When something failed we never knew if it was a VW or Audi part.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 06, 2020 03:14 PM (8Ou+H)

281 Here are a couple videos from 2019 of Democrat state senator Elena Parent objecting to the purchase of new electronic voting machines be proposed by the Republican SOS.

This woman was adamant last week that there was no evidence of fraud and the election was totally on the up and up.

Uh huh.

https://tinyurl.com/yy8zse2h

Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

282 Things are getting uglier by the moment in GA. It's really starting to look like Republican leadership was as much to blame for the fraud as the Democrats.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 03:10 PM (ZLI7S)

Well, that one Dem Senator was bitching about the graft and corruption surrounding the machines back in June, and now she's all on board with the things. Somebody dragged her old tweets out and asked for comment. I think they're all in it up to their eyeballs, and have been well compensated by dominion lobbyists.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 03:15 PM (L8ADy)

283 I had a 2012 Fusion that was paid off and I planned on keeping it until my kid was a teen to give to her. But last year a semi ran me off the road and it was totaled. Hey, you ever see those spikes that some trucks have on their front wheels like they were in Mad Max? They do exactly what you think. They rip through like a depth cutter on a milling machine.

Here's a picture of the aftermath
https://postIMG.cc/HVW67Grv

I suck at image hosting sites so that probably didn't work. So here's tinyurl in case:
https://tinyurl.com/y45p327a

Bodyshop quoted 6K and insurance said it was worth 6K so totaled. Prety much a perfect car until then.

Insurance didn't give me anywhere enough to cover an equivalent replacement though. So I researched what would be the most reliable car which turned out to be either a less than 5yo pickup truck or a Honda CRV. I don't need a truck so I got a CRV. But the base model. The Fusion had all the bells and whistles but the CRV doesn't. It sucks.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 06, 2020 03:15 PM (l6b3d)

284 Hey, it's time to eat already. Come on upstairs!

Posted by: dartist at December 06, 2020 03:19 PM (+ya+t)

285 Those new automatic LED high-beams should be outlawed, stat.
Posted by: Armchair Sinner at December 06, 2020 02:58 PM (Nig2g)

Oh, you mean the "dazzle the poor people so I can see better lights?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 06, 2020 03:21 PM (YqDXo)

286 Hey, you ever see those spikes that some trucks have on their front wheels like they were in Mad Max? They do exactly what you think. They rip through like a depth cutter on a milling machine.

Here's a picture of the aftermath
https://postIMG.cc/HVW67Grv

o_O

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 03:21 PM (L8ADy)

287 Ignore the NOOD, CBD is early, must have missed lunch

Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2020 03:21 PM (9sWOw)

288 281 Here are a couple videos from 2019 of Democrat state senator Elena Parent objecting to the purchase of new electronic voting machines

Uh huh.

https://tinyurl.com/yy8zse2h
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

Now I remember, she was the harridan at the hearing.
Duplicity Democrats and China bought Republicans.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:21 PM (CZm2G)

289 276. "I often wonder if there isn't enough of a niche market for a car/truck with no extra gadgets/computer/touch screens, et al."

I think production cost of leaving that stuff out or putting it in are a wash, so they leave it in.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 06, 2020 03:22 PM (4thlk)

290 Look. Joe walking without limp and the boot as shown and reported by The Hill. Funny that.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/
status/1335588555675070466

YESTERDAY: Joe Biden attends Saturday Mass in Wilmington, DE.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 06, 2020 03:22 PM (ECMp1)

291 "Speaking of cars: At red lights, I'm seeing see more and more people stopping almost a car-length behind the painted stop line. And more and more people in line behind the first car are stopping between one and two car-lengths behind the car in front of them.

What's up with this trend?
Posted by: Gref at December 06, 2020 02:36 PM (AMIL/)

I've noticed that, too, since the 'rona started. People are that paranoid.
Posted by: fly gal at December 06, 2020 02:54 PM (sQq+E)

1. pop the hood
2. replace air filter with surgical mask
3. safety!

Posted by: Hands at December 06, 2020 03:23 PM (786Ro)

292 I'm the Duke! The Duke of New York!

I'm A-Number-One!

Posted by: West at December 06, 2020 03:25 PM (QY+6a)

293 Not shocked by the notion both sides chopped at the bit for new fangled voting machines with the way corporations lavishly slobber all over politicians. Dominion probably made hundreds of millions over all those sales, and still got the right to pick the President.

Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2020 03:26 PM (9sWOw)

294 "Here's a picture of the aftermath"

Should have worked a deal with the insurance co. and bought it back for a couple hundred bucks, looks like a perfect teenage girl car to me.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 06, 2020 03:26 PM (4thlk)

295 >>> Here's a picture of the aftermath
https://postIMG.cc/HVW67Grv

o_O
Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 06, 2020 03:21 PM (L8ADy)

The guy in the semi didn't even notice hitting me at first until I started going off road. I took a look at his spikes later. Wasn't even a scratch. On my car they dug until they hit a door beam. If it wasn't for that they would of kept plunging in. I wasn't injured but for a second my car was sliding diagonally part on the shoulder and part on the grass with a forest of trees right by me. Once I got it under control it was fine. But I could have ended up a pine tree ornament.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 06, 2020 03:28 PM (l6b3d)

296 I am frugal-er than thou. Okay, 'cheaper' is a much more accurate word. My car prior to my present Chariot of Fyre was a '77 Lincoln 2-dr sedan - the Ultimate PimpMobile. Power everything, which was all good until it started to stop working. I eventually had to order the driver-side window regulator from LincolnLand in Clearwater, FL (and pay shipping, too.) When I drove it to my mechanic's shop to wait for the tow truck that would pick it up as my third donated car to Salvation Army, the rear brakes locked up as I drove it onto the pad and it wasn't going any futher. Period.

My PimpMobile II is now a 1998 Buick LeSabre Limited, and has undergone the same Shedding of the Clearcoat as PimpMobile Nr Uno. Research reveals that Buick (GM) was just starting to use clearcoat extensively in '98 and had many problems figuring out how to make it bond properly to paint. Lucky me. Other things have also given it up ... the regulator and power switch for the rear driver's side passenger window. The radio's AM band seems to be set permanently on 'squelch' now, and FM is the saving grace. There's a CD stuck in the CD drive that has defied removal since I bought the car in '07. Other areas are also Sources of Future Problems, but that comes with the territory. I paid $5K for it and plan to keep it as long as possible - in part because I refuse to participate in the 'Green Nude Eel' plan to put us all into a vehicle which we can't brake or steer and will probably always rent rather than own. 'Other-than-owner' control is not my idea of Happy Motoring ...

Posted by: Dr_No at December 06, 2020 03:28 PM (mu5GU)

297 >>Now I remember, she was the harridan at the hearing.
Duplicity Democrats and China bought Republicans.

And now with Ware County having evidence of an algorithm being run against Trump this is really going to get ugly, in a good way.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)

298 - Should have worked a deal with the insurance co. and bought it back for a couple hundred bucks, looks like a perfect teenage girl car to me.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 06, 2020 03:26 PM (4thlk)

Kids will either wreck or tear up the first one.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:28 PM (CZm2G)

299 But. 2-3 cpo instead of new if you want new bells and whistles but are cheap, errr frugal.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 06, 2020 03:28 PM (22mNy)

300 Resident 3vil has been leasing MB's for some time now, starting before i came along...

great cars, except for the one before this one.

they've pretty much been the SLC/SLK variety. (C300 now)

she's going in to w*rk on a Caturday to send out some stat meds. engine starts running ragged, so she pulls over, pushes the magic button, gets flat-bedded to MB Beverly Hills, picks up a loaner, and goes about her day.

they end up tearing down the engine to figure out "WTF?", and eventually find a cracked piston.

after 3 weeks or so, she finally gets it back.

fast forward a few months, and she's out running Saturday errands... pulling up to the cleaners, it starts running ragged again.

back to BH MB.

after a week or two, they decide the whole engine is "misaligned" or some such, and completely replace it.

she has the car back for a few weeks, and, one morning it flat out refuses to crank.

yup, back to BH MB, where her service rep and the service manager are beginning to cringe on sight of her and the car.

turns out they didn't completely replace the old engine, but had reused the old starter motor, and it had fried something.

new motor, new starter, and all is well in the world...

until, a couple of weeks later, the POS would not crank.

again.

in the end, BH MB stated they couldn't guarantee the car would be safe enough for her to drive down and turn it in at Fletcher Jones in Newport Beach, so she drove down in her BH MB loaner, emblazoned with their name, and picked up the C-300. she said they practically threw the car at her, the deal was so good.

the next day, she takes me for a spin, with the top down, and we stop to do a quick bit of shopping. standing outside the passenger side, i notice one of the window gaskets is malformed, and not sealing properly.

yup, less that 24 hours after P/U, and we have a defect. they tried the easy fix, but it didn't take, so this summer they replace the whole R R window assembly.

the other day, rolling down the freeway, a car was smoking badly...

not sure if it was engine, tranny or something else, but it WAS a brand new, high end MB.

their QC has gone to shit. our 99 C-230, used, ran W/O a glitch, until it stopped being used on a regular basis.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 06, 2020 03:31 PM (EQMiV)

301 288 281 Here are a couple videos from 2019 of Democrat state senator Elena Parent objecting to the purchase of new electronic voting machines

Uh huh.

https://tinyurl.com/yy8zse2h
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

Now I remember, she was the harridan at the hearing.
Duplicity Democrats and China bought Republicans.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:21 PM (CZm2G)

Both were caught either in Atlanta or Pennsylvania stuffing ballots depending one whether or not you believe the MSM instead of your eyes from photos and tweet locations from that day.
Media are clowns so are our Ruling Class.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 06, 2020 03:33 PM (ECMp1)

302 Banana dream, that damage is nuts.

I don't understand why those chariot wheel spikes are allowed.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 06, 2020 03:35 PM (2HIdp)

303 Boot on.
Boot off

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 06, 2020 03:35 PM (ECMp1)

304 When I think of some of the cool vehicles I've had over the years that I stupidly let go, it makes me sick. Couple of '67 Novas, couple of early 50's Chevy trucks, 5.7l Z28's...

Consequently, I can't bring myself to part with my heavily-optioned '72 Cheyenne K10, even though it needs a ton of work to freshen up. I'm sure I'd hate myself the moment it went away.

Other vehicles I have and love are my '07 (Classic) GMC 3500 dually, which was the most trouble-free vehicle purchase I've ever made, and that takes into account the 3200mi. round-trip I made to trade off an E39 BMW 5-series for it. Got it with 32k on the clock, and it's around 120k, now. The other is a low-mile Audi Allroad I picked up at an auction for cheap, and I love-love-loooove it. When it starts going to pot (and it will!), I won't feel bad about throwing it away, 'cuz I got it so cheap. For now, I'm just enjoying a truly great driving wagon that I can haul the dog around in.

Posted by: Shepherd Lover at December 06, 2020 03:41 PM (a4lnH)

305 Rudy tested positive for corona? Wow!

Posted by: Sillyme at December 06, 2020 03:42 PM (RPGAd)

306
I paid over $4,000 for a transmission replacement for a 2000 Honda Accord with over 200k miles.
The car itself is in excellent condition.
So I asked myself what's cheaper.
$4,000 for a transmission or over $20,000 (plus the increase in vehicle registration) for a new car just so I can have a new transmission?

Posted by: YIKES! at December 06, 2020 03:45 PM (t6XCL)

307 15. The local Toyota dealer has a stack of truck frames outside the service dept. Last time I perused the lot for used, to see what they had, I recall they had 5 bare frames. Tacoma or tundra, I don't know. Toyota truck frames, Tacoma specifically, are an almost well known problem.

Posted by: Dwaynerz at December 06, 2020 03:46 PM (gtu/X)

308 Big Toyota trucks are tough, the little one's - just pass on to another brand.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:50 PM (CZm2G)

309 Chairman Xi and His Americans

https://twitter.com/i/status/1330321702530723842

i can't get away from it

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:53 PM (CZm2G)

310 I own three 2000-2010 Fords. I think that era hits a sweet spot: useful tech without the nanny state crap, such as GPS.

Posted by: butch at December 06, 2020 03:53 PM (cHvOo)

311 BTW, I bought'em all used and for cash. No financing a depreciating asset.

Posted by: butch at December 06, 2020 03:56 PM (cHvOo)

312 @tracybeanz 3h

Looks like Justice Alito has changed the date of response to Tuesday, December 8th BEFORE the deadline.

https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/
1335635858033156102

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:57 PM (CZm2G)

313 311 BTW, I bought'em all used and for cash. No financing a depreciating asset.
Posted by: butch at December 06, 2020 03:56 PM (cHvOo)

Another increased cost of a new one - insurance

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 03:59 PM (CZm2G)

314 They say your car is a reflection of the driver, (or owner?).

Mines is perfect. It looks all manky but can get up and go if necessary, the paint is doing that thing where the clear coat peels off and I had an accident on a road coated with ice 8 years ago which I got paid from the insurance for and bought the part but just haven't had the inclination to replace them.

It looks pretty beat up on the exterior. (somewhat like it's owner) at 21 it's getting up there in car years. (somewhat like it's owner) but in general it gets me where I need to be with little fuss or bother (somewhat like the owner) Knock on wood (or should it be metal because it's a car?).

I'd love a new car but couldn't afford the payments and I have a sneaking suspicion that may age might affect the approval of a loan.
I think I'll request they bury me in it. We've done so well together.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 06, 2020 04:01 PM (aiTkO)

315 @aaronjcarpenter

Ware County, Georgia.

Dominion machines were seized. Equal number of Trump and Biden votes were forensically analyzed. However, the machines reported 87% for Trump and 113% for Biden. Should be 100% for both.

Stay tuned. This is big.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 04:02 PM (CZm2G)

316 I had a 96 ram that I sold after 10 years 130+ miles. 3 owners late it was a high school kids beater. Saw it at the Walgreens, reminisced with the kid, marveled at it's 275k. Kid said it had some unspecified tyranny work done. My new, 2017 with a hemi 4x4 was great right up til last Saturday, when, on the way home from Ok the rear end "disintegeated" (mechanics term). Still had time on warranty, but over on miles by 20k (only 80k total). So mad I could sput!

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 06, 2020 04:03 PM (PlmfM)

317 I really want that car in the pic. I could cause so much trouble with that. If anyone knows the owner, I will pay 300 cash on the spot.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at December 06, 2020 04:03 PM (ftFVW)

318 Antrim County, Michigan judge gave Team Trump access to 22 Dominion voting machines to conduct a forensic audit TODAY!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1335589049206263815

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 04:10 PM (CZm2G)

319 heh

@prayingmedic

On Nov 5th, the FBI served a warrant on the Fountain Hills residence of a 56-year-old IT expert named Elliot Kerwin.
FBI left with eight hard drives, three computers & USB sticks.
Maricopa County Recorder's office confirmed voter data was stolen.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 04:17 PM (ZLI7S)

320 253. I believe it's dart that makes a hybrid 350/is block. 350 block keeps all motor mount and accessory drives, but is set up for ls heads and intake. You can choose fuel injection or carburetor.

I think a bare block is about 2500 dead presidents. Speed costs, how fast do you want to go.

Posted by: Dwaynerz at December 06, 2020 04:21 PM (gtu/X)

321 #Georgia has a Chinese website featuring Govenor
@BrianKempGA who is asking for investments via a video message.

[Click the link it's Georgia gov in Chinese]
https://georgiabusiness.cn

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 04:30 PM (CZm2G)

322 @Jkylebass

The Chinese have recently purchased over 180,000 acres of Texas ranch land near the runway of the US's largest pilot training base for the Air Force. Standing at the their front gate on a recent reconnaissance trip, I couldn't believe we allowed these purchases under CFIUS. 1/3

https://twitter.com/Jkylebass/status/
1335230447085871104

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 04:32 PM (CZm2G)

323 From Aaron J Carpenter on Twitter.

The big news you need to hear about today is Ware County, Georgia.

Dominion machines were seized. Equal number of Trump and Biden votes were forensically analyzed. However, the machines reported 87% for Trump and 113% for Biden. Should be 100% for both.

Stay tuned. This is big.

Posted by: Bill R. at December 06, 2020 04:38 PM (wzzJf)

324 My current collection adds up to 130 yrs, an average of 21 yrs each. My oldest is 1984; newest is 2013. If you include bikes, which total 108 years, I'd average age of 19 yrs.
My daily truck is 24 yrs old, and no signs of fading at all. Since its over 20, it qualifies for 'antique' plates; no inspections, no checks, no emissions. Saves me hundreds of dollars in fees alone.

Insurance on older vehicles? Dirt cheap. 3 qualify as 'collector' so I pay under 100/yr on declared value for great coverage. Cheaper than owning a newer Nissan or whatever.

I'm sticking with my older vehicles I can work on and get parts for.

Posted by: Mr Wolf at December 06, 2020 04:50 PM (isyKh)

325 321 #Georgia has a Chinese website featuring Govenor
@BrianKempGA who is asking for investments via a video message.

[Click the link it's Georgia gov in Chinese]
https://georgiabusiness.cn

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 04:30 PM (CZm2G)

Georgia State began a petition this AM to call a special session of the Legislature on 10am Tuesday morning. They were not kind to Brad, Kemp and the rest. In fact they threw them to the wolves.
This should speed things up.
Copied and mass sent out.
Thanks.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 06, 2020 04:52 PM (HQK3P)

326 I had a friend, up here in mass, who bought an old, used Mercedes sports car, formerly owned by someone in the mafia. Drove like a dream and had all kinds of secret compartments, one of which was especially molded to hold a hand gun.

Posted by: Judith at December 06, 2020 04:53 PM (u1W2O)

327 310 I own three 2000-2010 Fords. I think that era hits a sweet spot: useful tech without the nanny state crap, such as GPS.
Posted by: butch at December 06, 2020 03:53 PM (cHvOo)

Thank you. Your purchases butter my bread.

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 05:05 PM (9UmRs)

328 So if Trump pulls this off, can we ask that Chris Wallace referred to as Gitmo-elect Chris Wallace?

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 06, 2020 05:05 PM (4NtsG)

329 Is "sloshim" six or seven?

Posted by: 370H55V at December 06, 2020 05:10 PM (WusEB)

330 Jenna Ellis Retweeted, _ @ScottAdamsSays

None of the election fraud history matter. None of the current election fraud allegations matter. What matters is that ballot counting transparency was denied by force in key cities. That's the end of the Republic (literally) and more than enough reason to toss out the election.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 05:12 PM (CZm2G)

331 So if Trump pulls this off, can we ask that Chris Wallace referred to as Gitmo-elect Chris Wallace?

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 06, 2020 05:05 PM (4NtsG)

Would rather see the impalement pole. Then we can call him shit on a stick.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2020 05:24 PM (9Om/r)

332 ChicagoTeachersUnion @CTULocal1 4h
The push to reopen schools is rooted in sexism, racism and misogyny.

@KenGardner11 56m
Is this a parody account?

Posted by: Am I a parody commenter? at December 06, 2020 05:36 PM (BBWrU)

333 Is Leslie Nelson still alive to play Brian Kemp for the remake of the Georgia POV of the 2020 elections?

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 06, 2020 05:36 PM (HQK3P)

334 Berserker-Dragonheads, poet/lyricist

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 05:57 PM (CZm2G)

335 On Nov 5th, the FBI served a warrant on the Fountain Hills residence of a 56-year-old IT expert named Elliot Kerwin.
FBI left with eight hard drives, three computers & USB sticks.
Maricopa County Recorder's office confirmed voter data was stolen.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 04:17 PM (ZLI7S)

Hopefully that was honest FIB. They've had that stuff for a month.

Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 06:19 PM (9UmRs)

336 Late to the car thread: I have a 1989 Mercedes 560SL convertible. Impractical as hell, but a blast to drive. Now that I'm moving to Tennessee, it will have to be my daily driver, not my monthly garage queen. ;-)
Oh, what the hell, Tennessee? they make cars over 25 years old pass the freaking EMISSIONS TEST? Hell, even NYC doesn't do that!

Posted by: Beverly at December 06, 2020 06:26 PM (5c8b7)

337 From Aaron J Carpenter on Twitter.

The big news you need to hear about today is Ware County, Georgia.

Dominion machines were seized. Equal number of Trump and Biden votes were forensically analyzed. However, the machines reported 87% for Trump and 113% for Biden. Should be 100% for both.

Stay tuned. This is big.
Posted by: Bill R. at December 06, 2020 04:38 PM (wzzJf)

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Sounds about right!

(1) The best people making predictions out there were saying that GA should not even be considered a "battleground state".

(2) Sidney Powell says it's the ONLY state that is 100% Dominion. It was mandated by the state, and as we've probably all heard, it was VERY recent. As far as unkind statements about top GA officials, she has risked having her ass sued off for defamation by calling out Gov Kemp in particular for being crooked (or maybe that was Lin Wood saying that?)

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at December 06, 2020 06:27 PM (hOOi9)

338 '''Dominion machines were seized. Equal number of Trump and Biden votes were forensically analyzed. However, the machines reported 87% for Trump and 113% for Biden. Should be 100% for both.

Stay tuned. This is big.
Posted by: Bill R. at December 06, 2020 04:38 PM (wzzJf)

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Seized by whom, BTW?

I thought the FBI was doing the Leslie Neilson routine. ("Nothing to see here folks, move along! ...)

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at December 06, 2020 06:31 PM (hOOi9)

339 On Nov 5th, the FBI served a warrant on the Fountain Hills residence of a 56-year-old IT expert named Elliot Kerwin.
FBI left with eight hard drives, three computers & USB sticks.
Maricopa County Recorder's office confirmed voter data was stolen.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2020 04:17 PM (ZLI7S)

Hopefully that was honest FIB. They've had that stuff for a month.
Posted by: clutch at December 06, 2020 06:19 PM (9UmRs)

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They probably put it in that warehouse where they keep the Hunter Biden laptop, and the Arc of the Covenant.

Top men are looking at it. Top men.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at December 06, 2020 06:35 PM (hOOi9)

340 I thought the FBI was doing the Leslie Neilson routine. ("Nothing to see here folks, move along! ...)

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer

Did you know Leslie Nielson was a serious actor before he made his name in comedy? He was also Canadian and joined the Canadian air force as a gunner during WW2 at the age of 17 and was legally deaf most or all of his life. Maybe we're getting old school Nielsen.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2020 06:42 PM (KAi1n)

341 Nielsen died in 2010. He coulda played Biden. Imagine Nielsen going "Listen, fat". Or Rodney Dangerfield. I'd love to see someone imitate Rodney Dangerfield imitating Biden. Wait, no, someone imitating Rodney Dangerfield imitating Don Rickles insulting Joe Biden. F yeah FTW.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2020 06:44 PM (KAi1n)

342 @LLinWood 53m

CCP & individuals/entities have purchased land in America. Why?

For investment or for staging nefarious actions intended to harm our country?

America needs to wake up NOW. We are being played.

CCP virus & effort to steal election to remove
@realDonaldTrump

What's next?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 07:06 PM (CZm2G)

343 ABC layed off correspondents and execs this week.

"Hilary Estey McLaughlin, who oversaw daytime programming like "The View", too"

Awww

https://tinyurl.com/yysmbq8o

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 07:27 PM (CZm2G)

344 I feel your pain.

I'm driving a hand me down 2004 Cadillac DeVille which really isn't bad except that it's rusted out, is dropping body parts and has lots of niggly and expensive to fix problems.

It has a small coolant leak which the mechanic says costs more to fix than the car is worth. So I just add some coolant periodically from a stash in the trunk.

Rodents packed away dog food in the frame of the hood so the pneumatic hood braces don't hold it up. I use vice grips on the braces to keep the hood up.

It also has a problem where the fuel filler pipe is rusted and won't hold a seal, thus the check engine light is on. Another one of those things where the fix costs more than the thing's worth.

It's eventually going to be donated to a school which teaches disadvantaged kids to be auto mechanics.

Posted by: Dr. Bob at December 06, 2020 07:43 PM (SH0tz)

345 True the Vote informed the Department of Justice on Dec. 3 of a link between the Nevada election emails system and a Pakistani company with ties to military and intelligence.

https://tinyurl.com/y6hx7hoh

Posted by: Braenyard at December 06, 2020 07:53 PM (CZm2G)

346 New cars are for suckers.

I have never bought one in my life. Used cars and trucks the whole way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 06, 2020 02:11 PM (R/m4+)

I'd usually would agree with you, but I've had so much bad luck buying pieces of absolute shit. After I bought my first new car, I thought screw this. I'll never buy used again unless it's a "fun" car for knocking around. It dawned on me that buying a used car is like buying a used toothbrush.

Posted by: Hoosier Daddy at December 06, 2020 07:59 PM (OZ/ka)

347 @336 Beverly ... I moved to TN after Katrina in '05. There USED TO BE a MANDATORY EMISSIONS CHECK every year, but that is no longer done. It was discontinued about six or so years ago, and no one misses it. On the other hand, Memphis closed their Divison of Weights and Measures, so you have to rely on the (ahem) 'good will' and 'honesty' of every vendor who sells anything measured by weight or volume. Word up ...

Posted by: Dr_No at December 06, 2020 09:17 PM (mu5GU)

348 Used is great if you know how to buy them. Run a carfax. Avoid cars that have been in an accident. Ensure the car has been regularly maintained, and yes, repaired as necessary by reviewing the records. Don't buy a car that has lived in the 'rust belt' all its life where they salt the roads.

I have a 2003 Honda Element and a 2001 Honda Civic. Both have over 160,000 miles and still run like new and have no rust. Rarely do they need any repairs and they've all been minor. I feel like I'm beating the system with these little gems.

Posted by: Maxey at December 07, 2020 01:25 PM (JeZC0)

349 That's a 1979 Mercury Cougar. That's a fine automobile. It looks like something off of the Red Green show.

Posted by: portlandon at December 07, 2020 02:10 PM (+oR7L)

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