A Guy Predicted That Society Would Devolve Into Violence and Chaos in 2020

I got this from Tim Pool.

This is from 2012.

I don't know what "cliodynamic" means. I assume it's a variety of psychohistory, charting great trends that come in cycles.

VICE: Can you humor me and explain your cliodynamic theory of violence in layman's terms?
Peter Turchin: Sure. Historical studies show that society goes through long-term cycles of violence: There's a build-up for roughly a century, then a period of violence, or upheaval, for ten or 15 years. Then people get tired of it and the next generation goes back to being peaceful. It's then the grandchildren of that generation--who never experienced the severity of upheaval firsthand--who are likely to start causing problems again. My theory suggests that it will be 2020 when the US hits a new peak of violence.

Um, rather nailed that, huh?

[VICE:] In your view, what causes these upheavals?
Historically, the trouble has always come from people with power, and the number of those people who want the most power. There are too many political entrepreneurs who are all trying to get power, and they get frustrated, which is how revolutions start: when members of the elite try to overturn the political order to better suit themselves.

Years ago I would have said that sounds like commie bullshit but of course I know different now.

Andrew Stuttaford just wrote about this.*

In the course of an article I wrote for National Review back in 2016 on the political impact of automation, I mentioned the work of University of Connecticut's Peter Turchin, a pioneer of cliodynamics, a heavily data-based area of study that uses the detection of patterns to decipher the past and, from that, 'predict' the future (in 2012, Turchin related how one line of analysis suggested that "the next instability peak should occur in the United States around 2020").

Yup, psychohistory. Nailed it.

Whether one agrees with Turchin's math or the shadow of historical determinism that wafts through it, much of what he has to say also makes, intuitively, a great deal of sense.
Specifically, Turchin has warned that "elite overproduction" can be a precursor of turmoil to come. To oversimplify, this occurs when members of the elite (or those with the talents to join it) become too numerous for society to accommodate their aspirations.
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Well over a third of 25- to 32-year-olds in the U.S. have a bachelor's degree (or above), up from one-eighth in 1965 (and there will undoubtedly have been a dramatic increase in the number of university graduates in almost every Western country).... University graduates earn more and are considerably less likely to be unemployed than those who could only manage high school. Nevertheless, the growth in the number of graduates has not been matched by the number of jobs that require degrees. This sets those who earned them up for a disappointment that won't have been made any easier by the fact that, far too often, their degrees will have been of limited value in the first place. Increasing the quantity of degrees is one thing, preserving their quality quite another. In 2012, the New York Fed reported that "during the first decade of the 2000s, many college graduates were forced to move down the occupational hierarchy to take jobs typically performed by lower-skilled workers." Unemployment may not yet be a problem for them, but underemployment is.

...

These "elites" -- um, would-be elites, let's say -- are upset that people who didn't spend $300,000 on a worthless college degree are making more than they are.

The increase in the pay for (some) non-graduate jobs is another reminder of how wage rates in some of the traditional haunts of the intelligentsia, whether it be in universities or the media, have declined in relative -- and not infrequently -- absolute terms. Thirty or 40 years ago, a successful journalist or academic was guaranteed access to the lifestyle of the comfortable middle class. For many reasons, that is no longer the case. This shift helps explain both the radicalization of academia and, as has been all too evident in recent weeks, that of the media. No longer, as they see it, having a vested interest in the existing system, they are agitating to replace it with one in which they will have the power and the spoils that go with it. The same will also apply to those millions of underemployed graduates. To understand why academics are teaching what they are, why journalists were writing and broadcasting what they are, and why so many younger people are ready to listen to them, this is not a bad place to start.

I don't know if it's true that the academy has seen wages fall. I'm quite sure that's not true, unless there's a caste system in the academy in which most workers are kept from full-time positions and are paid menial wages while a select few (incluing all the administrators, of course) make hundreds of thousands per year.

* Strangely, I just blundered across the Andrew Stuttaford article without searching for it. I was checking National Review for the first time in months to see if they were actually engaging with the current crisis, or avoiding it like cowards. (Answer: They're engaging but in as cautious and bloodless a way as possible.)

So I just came across a random Peter Turchin mention minutes after hearing of him for the first time. The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon strikes again.

Posted by: Ace at 05:21 PM

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1 Tada!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:22 PM (WEBkv)

2 Hah, stuck the landing!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:22 PM (WEBkv)

3 they go apeshit every 25 years or so. you don't have to be Karnak to notice.

Posted by: x at June 08, 2020 05:23 PM (nFwvY)

4 And now for the triple!

Judges hold their breath in anticipation!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:23 PM (WEBkv)

5 Oh, and he misses the triple!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:23 PM (WEBkv)

6 Not going to post anything here until after I read the content.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at June 08, 2020 05:23 PM (xptlg)

7

I've been watching Man in the High Castle.

...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 08, 2020 05:24 PM (Saar8)

8 Nah.
Doom and gloom have been in fashion since day 1.
To the Doom-and gloom crowd: LOLGF

Why? Firearms and the right to bear them.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 08, 2020 05:24 PM (QMwOT)

9 I don't know what "cliodynamic" means

That's easy. It means;
As Predicted by Clio, the TV Psychic

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at June 08, 2020 05:25 PM (xptlg)

10 Wow! Top 10!
**Bows from the waste in appreciation**

Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 08, 2020 05:25 PM (QMwOT)

11 Skimmed the content for a top 10 landing like a fucking BOSS

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:25 PM (Mrt+y)

12 Meh. Close enough.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:25 PM (Mrt+y)

13 I was Willowed.

Again.

*sigh*

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 08, 2020 05:25 PM (19orm)

14 I believe it was Candice Owens who just released a video asking blacks to continually stop making martyrs out of criminals.

Whites, Asians, Hispanics see a criminal being a criminal and getting killed by cops? Dumbass.

Blacks? DEFUND POLICE IN OUR COMMUNITIES!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 08, 2020 05:25 PM (Jzsla)

15 Adjunct instructors. It is a Thing.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 05:26 PM (bCLt0)

16 Eh, not buying it.

Posted by: Hari Seldon at June 08, 2020 05:26 PM (eVhWu)

17 I predict another round of instability in 2024, and again in 2028.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 05:26 PM (xIBU4)

18 I thought cliodynamics was a type of VD

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (v0R5T)

19 I'm sure it's only a matter of time before all our whackadoodle new age friends start telling us that Nostradumus predicted all this.

And, from HotFart: the DOJ is getting rough with Prince Andrew. Not sure what the point is; he's a member of the royal family and has already been pretty totally unmasked publicly as a pedo.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (L2ZTs)

20
Nice post.

Time to check out of politics until another time.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (Saar8)

21 Turchin couldn't have predicted Trump.

Racial upheaval is easy to predict since it's a constant and easily instigated, but Trump is a bizarre left-field event.

His presence has led the Left to this reckless position, and I don't think that would be predictable. I suspect the guy got lucky in hindsight.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (oVJmc)

22 A Guy Predicted That Society Would Devolve Into Violence and Chaos in 2020

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Also, this is a pretty safe bet just going off of every presidential election year where a Republican is in office, isn't it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (Jzsla)

23 Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 08, 2020 05:25 PM (Jzsla)

Social engineering and a unique American history is a motherfucker ain't it?

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (Mrt+y)

24 Miss Cleo studied Cliodynamics at Tufts.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2020 05:28 PM (hAuwZ)

25 I dunno. We've been fighting a "cycle of violence" since the late 90's. It's called Islamic Terrorism and their goal is to essentially overturn the status quo. Some of us didn't miss that for obvious reasons.

What's happening in our country now is more of an insurgency. It also is being stoked by foreign actors because they know to divide us is to defeat us. Ergo it's a pretty classic insurgency- it's just on our shores now and nobody's driving around in technical with an DShK.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 08, 2020 05:28 PM (a1CRn)

26 I will also note that you are rarely wrong to "follow the money" when investigating political trends.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (xIBU4)

27 This stuff also sounds like Neil Howe's and Bill Strauss's Fourth Turning theory.

Posted by: bluebell at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (/669Q)

28 cliodynamics

To search for something you'll never find.

Posted by: Bosk at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (gQzBS)

29 Coulda been first but I read the post.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (JUOKG)

30 Ok, does that make Trump the Mule?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (WdocV)

31 2020 ain't the peak.

Posted by: Apostate at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (z2FAZ)

32 Makes sense.

A majority of voters in New York have no memory of New York pre-Giuliani, so they have no sense how bad things can get.

The idiot head of the Minneapolis city council thinks that if you abolish the police, that just means that the cops won't come when your garage is broken into. She has no conception how things can get worse than that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (I2/tG)

33 16 Eh, not buying it.

Posted by: Hari Seldon at June 08, 2020 05:26

LOL

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (Dhht7)

34
A Guy Predicted That Society Would Devolve Into Violence and Chaos in 2020

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Also, this is a pretty safe bet just going off of every presidential election year where a Republican is in office, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (Jzsla)

Well, if the GOP would just stop nominating Literally Hitlers, there wouldn't be a need for violence!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (EGyGV)

35 Ok, does that make Trump the Mule?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (WdocV)
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No, because President Trump is most definitely not sterile.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (WEBkv)

36 I thought the Baader-Meinhoff gang were the gang that murdered the Israeli athletes at the 1972? Olympics.

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (Uu+Jp)

37 Cliodynamics sounds like something out of Foundation.

Posted by: Hari Seldon at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (aKsyK)

38 I think his timing was a bit off. People seem to forget there was a lot of violence and chaos during the Obama years. Well the media does it's best to memory hole it so maybe that's the reason.

Trump was the reaction all of that. We might be a bit further down the road to ending this crap. I know I'm sick of it.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (ZLI7S)

39 My theory suggests that it will be 2020 when the US hits a new peak of violence.

Um, rather nailed that, huh?
+++++++++++++
Time will tell. I doubt this is the peak.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (Q8c/L)

40 Shooting is finally starting? Well, ok then.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (NVYyb)

41 Not top 10 but let me read the content first then decide

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (6f16T)

42 ZOD LIFE MATTERS.

Posted by: Zod at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (XzT/D)

43 By the way "defund the police" is an effort to disarm society so it can be taken by the perpetrators through force and without consequences.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (a1CRn)

44 18
I thought cliodynamics was a type of VD

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (v0R5T)

cliodynamics >>> clitorectomies.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (KnJdm)

45 The idiot head of the Minneapolis city council thinks that if you
abolish the police, that just means that the cops won't come when your
garage is broken into.

___

I'm going to go open my hobo hunting supplies store there.

Posted by: Some Moron at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (WdocV)

46 This is the perfect moment for RBG to croak.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (xIBU4)

47 Social engineering and a unique American history is a motherfucker ain't it?

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (Mrt+y)

--

I'm excited to see the coming sharp decline in violence in the cities that remove their police forces.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (Jzsla)

48 Sounds like Turchin's analysis is pretty spot-on ace. The disaffection of masses of 20 to 40 somethings IS probably fueled by butt- hurt over the failure of their expectations. This is not a novel situation. Lots of revolutions have been fueled by the same sorts of resentment.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (bCLt0)

49 >>>21 Turchin couldn't have predicted Trump.

Racial upheaval is easy to predict since it's a constant and easily instigated, but Trump is a bizarre left-field event.

...

I don't think so. I can see trump being the result of the super-cycles he's charting. Trump winning is only possible in a time of anxiety and disappointment. If these were good times, the public never would have taken a chance on an out-of-left-field candidate. They would have chosen a Jeb! or a Hillary.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (PbpT7)

50 Clio is the muse of History.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (Dc2NZ)

51 Or, y'know, race riots in an election year are almost as predictable as the sun coming up. We missed 2018 for the most part, so we get a double helping this year. but yeah, trayvon was in February of an election year, and the other big ones (not Freddie Gray, oddly) all seem to come during the summer before a national election.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (Wm5SB)

52 Not top 10 but let me read the content first then decide
Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (6f16T)
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I've already read the content and decided that you are definitely not in the top 10.

Posted by: bluebell at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (/669Q)

53 >>I thought the Baader-Meinhoff gang were the gang that murdered the Israeli athletes at the 1972? Olympics.

Palestinians.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (ZLI7S)

54 39
My theory suggests that it will be 2020 when the US hits a new peak of violence.

Um, rather nailed that, huh?

+++++++++++++

Time will tell. I doubt this is the peak.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (Q8c/L)

This. Local maximum.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (KnJdm)

55 I sold over 40 million copies of "Cliodynamics" before turning it into a religion.

Posted by: Mo Ron Hubbard at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (XfhKA)

56 If I win things will be very peaceful in the camps. And that is a promise. Food in the camps though? Err....we'll see.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (WdocV)

57 Jut this weekend was an article on Antifa is the Tech boom cast offs ...

I'll see if I an find it.

Posted by: Adriane the You Might as well Be Giants Jumping Rope Critic ... at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (LPnfS)

58 >> By the way "defund the police" is an effort to disarm society so it can be taken by the perpetrators through force and without consequences.

You defund the Police and the Taxpayers will stop funding the Government. Those EBT Cards are the only thing keeping this army fed.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (hAuwZ)

59 Cycles of times of plenty vs times of scarcity creating takers or makers.

Posted by: davidt at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (l3+k2)

60 Hey thathalfrican : )

How are you doing?

Posted by: SMH at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (RU4sa)

61 Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (Jzsla)

Gonna be lit AF

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (5abMI)

62
Ok, does that make Trump the Mule?
Posted by: 18-1

Yes, a temporary speed bump.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (aKsyK)

63 I'm quite sure that's not true, unless there's a caste system in the academy in which most workers are kept from full-time positions and are paid menial wages while a select few (incluing all the administrators, of course) make hundreds of thousands per year.

Oh. Oh that's beautiful in its cattiness.

Psychohistory is very interesting, if only because the biases of the person writing it are generally easily seen.

That said, I do think, hippie that I am, that there is an ebb and flow to Time and History and rhymes not repeats and all that jazz.

I do wonder if SCOTUS thought post-Griggs that some other kind of testing wouldn't spring into place.

Because, well, it did.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping up and down. at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (GbPPJ)

64 sounds suspiciously like somewhat-more-legitimate Timewave Zero

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (RKQ/v)

65 Heinlein wrote a short story about this called "Jackpot." It was about a statistician who tracked events to determine which curves of events were prosperous/good and which were bad, and then he noticed that all of the "bad" curves - which operate at different frequencies - were all cresting simultaneously in what he referred to as the "silly season."

It didn't have a happy ending.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (Q8c/L)

66 >>>36 I thought the Baader-Meinhoff gang were the gang that murdered the Israeli athletes at the 1972? Olympics.

no that was palestinians, black september I think.

Baader Meinhow was a communist revolutionary terrorist group that did kidnappings, killings, and bank robberies, I think, but almost all in Germany and I don't know that any made The Big Stage of world attention.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (PbpT7)

67 OAN DC circuit of appeals is to hear Judge Sullivan's BS report.

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (6f16T)

68 I'm pretty certain predicting the future is spelled Cleodynamics.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (Jzsla)

69
I believe it was Candice Owens who just released a video asking blacks to continually stop making martyrs out of criminals.

Whites, Asians, Hispanics see a criminal being a criminal and getting killed by cops? Dumbass.

Blacks? DEFUND POLICE IN OUR COMMUNITIES!!! - posted by Moron Robbie
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Eh. I don't think it's "Blacks" that are demanding that the police be defunded. I think it's Maoist commies that want the chaos that would result from PD elimination.. And the Maoist commies have patrons that are willing to pony up the cash for the required mob action. What is the motive for the "patrons" to pay for chaos? Power. Power and money. Control over us.

Posted by: mrp at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (Pqytn)

70 I sold over 40 million copies of "Cliodynamics" before turning it into a religion.
Posted by: Mo Ron Hubbard at June 08, 2020 05:32 PM (XfhKA)
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Ha!

Posted by: bluebell at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (/669Q)

71 Don't miss my new Netflix original: Fire is the New Black!

Posted by: Jenji Kohan at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (sWM8x)

72 >>>57 Jut this weekend was an article on Antifa is the Tech boom cast offs ...

I'll see if I an find it.

huh.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (PbpT7)

73 SMH! I'm alright I guess. Ups and downs.

Next week I should be a firearm owner. Heading home from work so I'll check this thread in about 30.

How're you doing?

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (5abMI)

74 >> Sounds like Turchin's analysis is pretty spot-on ace. The disaffection of masses of 20 to 40 somethings IS probably fueled by butt- hurt over the failure of their expectations.

You Take That Back!

They Are ALL WINNERS!

Posted by: Moms Everywhere at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (UsGxi)

75 66 >>>36 I thought the Baader-Meinhoff gang were the gang that murdered the Israeli athletes at the 1972? Olympics.

no that was palestinians, black september I think.

Baader Meinhow was a communist revolutionary terrorist group that did kidnappings, killings, and bank robberies, I think, but almost all in Germany and I don't know that any made The Big Stage of world attention.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (PbpT7)

Black September, yes.

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (Uu+Jp)

76 "Cliodynamic" is a type of perpetual-motion dildo that also makes predictions about the future through a 1-900 number.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (TQ/zJ)

77 They are only disaffected because they largely haven't been shot at or really paid any consequences. There's nothing like being shot at to make one consider whether your endeavors are worth it.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (a1CRn)

78 . The disaffection of masses of 20 to 40 somethings IS probably fueled by butt- hurt over the failure of their expectations.

***

I know a lot of well credentialed 20-40 somethings, making "good" money that still won't buy them sh*t in the urban places they live, with no wife/husband or kids, and no close friends.

Some of them are trending panti-fa and some of them are just a mass of depression....

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (WdocV)

79 Black American culture has crippled black Americans from participating in the American Dream. Abortion, nonexistent fathers, the inability to get past slavery, a lack of respect for laws and authority, these are killing black America and will continue too. Once black American culture changes, then their fulfillment of the American Dream can begin.

Step 1: Get off the Democratic Plantation.
Step 2: For Black Lives to Matter stop aborting them and realize that children need fathers.
Step 3: One cannot properly parent while in jail. Stop going there.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (QMwOT)

80 Last December an astrologer on Noory said 2020 was going to be a bad year in the U.S. Something about Saturn and Mars in bad aspect. Pluto too.

Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (0LaWm)

81 72 >>>57 Jut this weekend was an article on Antifa is the Tech boom cast offs ...

I'll see if I an find it.

huh.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (PbpT7)

It was in PJ Media.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (bCLt0)

82 Found it:

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/
capoliticalnewsandviews/antifa-rioters-
are-the-tech-economys-college-discards/

Posted by: Adriane the You Might as well Be Giants Jumping Rope Critic ... at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (LPnfS)

83 this occurs when members of the elite (or those with the talents to join it) become too numerous for society to accommodate their aspirations.

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And by elite, we mean those who perform no productive societal good.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (kA3Cp)

84 Hope the tax stamp for my suppressor comes in before "peak violence." Super-silent movie pews.

Posted by: Greyman27 at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (RKLPC)

85 Maybe ran across thos some time ago, possibly in that 2016 article

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (6f16T)

86 Baader Meinhow was a communist revolutionary terrorist group that did kidnappings, killings, and bank robberies, I think, but almost all in Germany and I don't know that any made The Big Stage of world attention.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (PbpT7)
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I read about them in Time Magazine.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at June 08, 2020 05:36 PM (WEBkv)

87 What does it mean saying Trump is the Mule?

Posted by: Jmel at June 08, 2020 05:36 PM (OeWgo)

88
Social engineering and a unique American history is a motherfucker ain't it?

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:27 PM (Mrt+y)

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I'm excited to see the coming sharp decline in violence in the cities that remove their police forces.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 08, 2020 05:31 PM (Jzsla)

Once we get rid of the tyranny of city police departments, Armed Robbery numbers are projected to drop to almost nil.

In unrelated news on the charity front, Undocumented Monetary Donations To Aspiring Rappers has skyrocketed. The boundless generosity of the American Public brings a tear to my eye.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 05:36 PM (EGyGV)

89 Good, thathalfrican. Arming up is a smart move.

I'm doing fine.

Posted by: SMH at June 08, 2020 05:36 PM (RU4sa)

90 IIRC and I probably don't Black September had a disproportionate death rate.

Posted by: Northernlurker at June 08, 2020 05:36 PM (Uu+Jp)

91 My wife's boyfriend told me she stopped sleeping with me because I could never find the cliodynamic.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 08, 2020 05:36 PM (Geoni)

92 Yeah, anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see that all the systems of Marxism are nothing more than one group killing off the current leaders, killing a few million innocents along the way and setting themselves up as the new leaders.

It's greed.

And everyone knows it.
But they all go along with the lie because they think they're going to get a chair at the table.
And not a bullet in front of a wall.

It amuses me darkly.

They're not industrious or clever enough to win now but they think the new, more ruthless system is going to let them win?

The Wall Street banker you think is gonna finally get what's coming to him in your new Democrat socialism is going to change jobs to Commisar of Finance.
And not only is he going to deny your loan, he's going to fine you $500 for not donating to BLM last month.
And since he now works for the government, there's no appeal and no law was broken.

Enjoy getting fucked more. If you survive.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 08, 2020 05:37 PM (aO8Gd)

93 It didn't have a happy ending.

Posted by:�Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)�at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (Q8c/L)

Is this about my video?

Posted by: Bob Craft at June 08, 2020 05:37 PM (55lwO)

94 Interesting! But also, depressing - 10-15 years of this?

Re: the elite - not only don't have the jobs they expect, but they have debt that requires them to get those jobs. That feeds into the entitlement - "You promised me that if I got that advanced degree I would earn the big bucks!"

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2020 05:37 PM (bDqIh)

95 There is in fact just such a class system at Universities. Tenure professors make a killing. Visiting professors work harder, and frequently make less than their students pay in tuition. Also, since tenure is limited, most visiting professors will never be given access to it.

Posted by: Spiderlord at June 08, 2020 05:37 PM (DXTEG)

96 76 "Cliodynamic" is a type of perpetual-motion dildo that also makes predictions about the future through a 1-900 number.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (TQ/zJ)

Where can I pick up one?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 08, 2020 05:37 PM (QMwOT)

97 82 Found it:

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/
capoliticalnewsandviews/antifa-rioters-
are-the-tech-economys-college-discards/
Posted by: Adriane the You Might as well Be Giants Jumping Rope Critic ... at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (LPnfS)

Very good article. Highly recommend.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 05:37 PM (bCLt0)

98 White flight again. Jerseyites tell me South Carolina is the new blue destination.

Posted by: BluesFish at June 08, 2020 05:37 PM (WQZ1O)

99 >>no that was palestinians, black september I think.

Jim McKay who was leading the Olympic coverage made a very simple statement after the attack that I will never forget, "They're all gone."

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2020 05:37 PM (ZLI7S)

100 Next week I should be a firearm owner.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (5abMI)

Outstanding! Congratulations, in advance.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (KnJdm)

101 What Antifa members don't know: The absolute worst thing that could happen to the members of Antifa would be for them to win and establish a Communist dictatorship of the proletariat here in the United States. Why? Because the very first group of people to be lined up against the wall and shot, are the people who were the revolutionaries. Why? Because they were the effective trouble makers, and the new leaders don't want those kind of people around to give them trouble in the future.

Of course the second group against the wall are the college profs who trained those trouble makers. Not only might they train more trouble makers, but the last people any real Communist wants around them are anyone who makes them feel stupid.
They'll all die before people like us do.

Posted by: An Observation at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (MCs9S)

102 OAN Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (6f16T)

103 Maybe the Khmer Rouge was right.

Maybe you DO have to cull the intellectuals from time to time.

Anderson Cooper's eyeglasses bring him to the front of the line.

I am Laslo.

Posted by: laslo at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (2tVx1)

104 This Turbhin guy dovetails with Strauss-Howe generational theory. They break the cycles into 25 yrs. though. 4 cycles that keep repeating.

Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (0LaWm)

105 102 OAN Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators
Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (6f16T)

And Trump is set to start having rallies again in a couple weeks.

Coincidence?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (tmA71)

106 My wife's boyfriend told me she stopped sleeping with me because I could never find the cliodynamic.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 08, 2020 05:36 PM (Geoni)
---------------

Couldn't or wouldn't?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:39 PM (WEBkv)

107 My first thought too, kallisto.

Posted by: bluebell at June 08, 2020 05:39 PM (/669Q)

108 Last December an astrologer on Noory said 2020 was going to be a bad year in the U.S. Something about Saturn and Mars in bad aspect. Pluto too.
Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (0LaWm)
........

What about Uranus?

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2020 05:39 PM (v0R5T)

109 Floyd's death was a travesty. But if they're going to make a convicted armed robber with a string of cocaine convictions their cause celebre, were going to need more funerals.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 08, 2020 05:39 PM (a1CRn)

110 @73: "Next week I should be a firearm owner. Heading home from work so I'll check this thread in about 30."

I'm submitting my "permit to purchase" form this week. Unfortunately, I've got some recent misdemeanor stuff on my records (multiple noise complaints 'cause I do like to party sometimes), but that shouldn't be a problem.

And, if local store inventories are too low, and waiting lists too long, then I've got a friend down in Arkansas who's willing and eager to help me arm up for the defunded zombie looter apocalypse.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:39 PM (+oVP5)

111 Sounds like the Kondratiev Wave Theory Iasked a very wise CIO about it and he said I believe it the question is how do you make money off it

Posted by: Regular joe at June 08, 2020 05:39 PM (qYOp2)

112 101 Every revolution is the same, the next one won't be different

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:39 PM (6f16T)

113 OAN Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators

So in #twoweeks, Nunes is going to suggest to someone who can do something that they ought to. I'm sold. Who do I make out my check to?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 08, 2020 05:39 PM (H5knJ)

114 So...human nature remains the same over non-geologic periods of time. It would be nice if the "We Follow the Science" liars would stop lying about that. Especially to themselves.

Posted by: Gref at June 08, 2020 05:40 PM (AMIL/)

115 "I don't know if it's true that the academy has seen wages fall. I'm quite sure that's not true, unless there's a caste system in the academy in which most workers are kept from full-time positions and are paid menial wages while a select few (incluing all the administrators, of course) make hundreds of thousands per year."

It's true in small part. A certain gender and certain race(s) increasingly find themselves adjunct professors and administrators, more or less at-will employees. Those who get the tenure ring, of course, are incredibly high paid (see, Elizabeth Warren), compensated considerably more than in the past. Stuttaford, about the only NT I can stomach, usually is more precise.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 08, 2020 05:40 PM (puu6v)

116 The disaffection of masses of 20 to 40 somethings IS probably fueled by butt-hurt over the failure of their expectations.

In 1980, fewer than 20% of the population had a four-year degree. You could get a degree in underwater basket weaving, and you would still be part of a fairly elite group.

Now, more than a third of the population has a four-year degree - considerably higher than that if you are under 40.

And degrees have gotten a lot more expensive, thanks to Federally guaranteed student loans.

So, many young people go deeply into debt to get a degree that they think will make them part of the societal elite, and the degree frequently turns out to be worthless.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 05:40 PM (I2/tG)

117 Stupid bone spurs...picked today to start acting up.
Foot hurts like hell to use, but the more I stand on it, the fascia loosens up.

So went to the range to see if the pain hurt my groups any. Interestingly enough, when I'm focusing on something like a target, I don't notice the foot pain.

Good to know.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 08, 2020 05:40 PM (d1uFV)

118 This is ironic;

This sets those who earned them up for a disappointment that won't have been made any easier by the fact that, far too often, their degrees will have been of limited value in the first place. Increasing the quantity of degrees is one thing, preserving their quality quite another. In 2012, the New York Fed reported that "during the first decade of the 2000s, many college graduates were forced to move down the occupational hierarchy to take jobs typically performed by lower-skilled workers." Unemployment may not yet be a problem for them, but underemployment is."

I was at the post office at lunch, talking to a postal clerk I've gotten to know, and found out for the first time that he actually had a degree in Geology from a major school. And the most ironic thing of all is that, in having a job as a postal clerk, he's done better by far than most other geology degree holders have.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2020 05:40 PM (Kpl3J)

119 For the record, political violence in 20 year cycles:

1860 Lincoln (assassinated)
1880 Garfield (assassinated)
1900 McKinley (assassinated)
1920 Harding dies, various schemes exposed
1940 World War
1960 Stolen election followed by assassination
1980 Reagan assassination attempt
2000 Hung election followed by terrorist attack
2020 ?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 08, 2020 05:40 PM (kA3Cp)

120 76 "Cliodynamic" is a type of perpetual-motion dildo that also makes predictions about the future through a 1-900 number.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (TQ/zJ)
.......

I predict pain.

Posted by: Cliodynamic Dildo at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (v0R5T)

121 Next week I should be a firearm owner.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (5abMI)

Hoppes #9
iirc
: -))

Posted by: Adriane the You Might as well Be Giants Jumping Rope Critic ... at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (LPnfS)

122 @116: "And degrees have gotten a lot more expensive, thanks to Federally guaranteed student loans."

A lot more expensive, and a lot less worthwhile.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (+oVP5)

123
What does it mean saying Trump is the Mule?
Posted by: Jmel

asimov.fandom.com/wiki/The_Mule

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (aKsyK)

124
It's the Great Cultural Revolution, Mark II. Red Guards running amok, pulling down statues, trying to erase history, forcing self-criticism of those unlucky enough to come into their clutches.

They'd better hope for a better fate than the first Red Guards, who were slaughtered en masse by the People's Liberation Army.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (mht8P)

125 >>Jim McKay who was leading the Olympic coverage made a very simple statement after the attack that I will never forget, "They're all gone."

Fun fact: the grandson of the mastermind of that attack is a US citizen and ran for Congress in CA in 2018. Justice Democrat, naturally. Think he may be running again?

And he spent his childhood hanging out with granddad and his pals. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (bDqIh)

126 #2weeks been ear fo tree years, you go now!

Posted by: Ancient Chinese Food Secret at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (r+sAi)

127 108 Last December an astrologer on Noory said 2020 was going to be a bad year in the U.S. Something about Saturn and Mars in bad aspect. Pluto too.
Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (0LaWm)
........

What about Uranus?
Posted by: wth at June 08, 2020 05:39 PM (v0R5T)

Its cliodynamic is vibrating.

Posted by: Carl Sagan at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (QMwOT)

128 OAN Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (6f16T)
I was told this was coming in 2017, 2018, 2019, and now 2020. Fat boy Brian Cates told me on twitter that Stealth Jeff and Rosenrosen were going to bring the heat...Not happening

Posted by: Says Every Dog on this Planet at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (w/xc3)

129 97 82 Found it:

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/
capoliticalnewsandviews/antifa-rioters-
are-the-tech-economys-college-discards/
Posted by: Adriane the You Might as well Be Giants Jumping Rope Critic ... at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (LPnfS)

Very good article. Highly recommend.
Posted by: tubal
______________

Haven't read yet, but the disaffected college grads with useless degrees are the direct result of the "everyone needs to go to college" dopes infiltrating our education system and poisoning our children's minds.

Posted by: Furious George at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (9vQJW)

130 I do like folks paying attention to the cycles of history.

I know other morons have said it better but: hard times make strong people.
Strong people make good times.
Good times makes weak people.
Weak people make hard times.

Rinse. Repeat.
Whip it out, wipe it off, slide it back in.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (d1uFV)

131 I know a lot of well credentialed 20-40 somethings, making "good" money that still won't buy them sh*t in the urban places they live, with no wife/husband or kids, and no close friends.

Some of them are trending panti-fa and some of them are just a mass of depression....
Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (WdocV)

Twenty or thirty years ago they would have been simply unpublished or frustrated novelists or artists who would eventually just become teachers or go back to school on their parent's dime.

Now there's a glut of teachers

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 05:42 PM (CqE5x)

132 Re: the elite - not only don't have the jobs they expect, but they have debt that requires them to get those jobs. That feeds into the entitlement - "You promised me that if I got that advanced degree I would earn the big bucks!"
Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2020 05:37 PM (bDqIh)

That's not entitlement though. That is saying you told me if I did X work I would get Y reward and I did X and where is Y?

I refer to Kids These Days as poorly trained seals. They cannot think but they sure as hell can respond to the cues and get the fish.

Well.

The cues are being given and they are responding but there's no fish.

It tends to make people feisty.

One of the most difficult lessons to learn when becoming an adult is that you can do every single thing right, every single thing, and still have a terrible outcome.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping up and down. at June 08, 2020 05:42 PM (GbPPJ)

133 His premise is just another way to say that old saying:

Hard Men make good times.
Good times make Soft Men.
Soft Men make bad times.
Bad times make Hard Me

Regardless of why this has happened, I'm just glad that Pres. Trump is at the helm. He doesn't get flustered, and he does not act rashly, nor shun his responsilbility. He will guide us through this. Pelosi, Schumer, most people in power, are just looking to increase their power.

Posted by: Chillin the most at June 08, 2020 05:42 PM (lonOK)

134 Was it a well-hung election?

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 08, 2020 05:42 PM (xPl2J)

135 @30: "Ok, does that make Trump the Mule?"

No, but great reference.

*fistbumps*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:42 PM (+oVP5)

136 I don't know what "cliodynamic" means. I assume it's a variety of psychohistory, charting great trends that come in cycles.

VICE: Can you humor me and explain your cliodynamic theory of violence in layman's terms?

Posted by: Ace at 05:21 PM

Reading this, I immediately imagined this as a discussion with Dr. Ian Malcolm and him explaining his "chaos theory".

See, here I'm now sitting by myself, uh, er, talking to myself. That's, that's chaos theory.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 08, 2020 05:42 PM (Do5/p)

137 Last December an astrologer on Noory said 2020 was going to be a bad year in the U.S. Something about Saturn and Mars in bad aspect. Pluto too.
Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (0LaWm)
........

"The astrology of Eris has been acting as a powerful, silent, invisible player in the story of man."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 08, 2020 05:42 PM (Dc2NZ)

138 Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators

So the DOJ can carefully consider which staffer is going to wipe their ass with them. Barr has dibs on brennan. He will do it the morning after taco tuesday.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 05:42 PM (dNzKv)

139 I'm a nobody but I predicted chaos in 2020 for the sole reason that Trump won, 2020 would be an election year, and the media would amplify anything negative past 11 to make re-election as difficult as they could.

Posted by: fb at June 08, 2020 05:42 PM (6ESMG)

140 That whole "you earn more with a college degree" thing has been screwing up this country for years.

Sure, that was true when only the very top of the class went to college, and when many college degrees had a practical use. But college wasn't making those people significantly smarter. They would have earned more money with our without the degree.

But all we took from it was, "Better send my kid to college or he'll be poor all his life. What's he going to study? Hell, I don't know. He's kind of a dullard, so hopefully he'll stick to something simple, like journalism."

Posted by: Wally at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (/72Gb)

141 Anifa in the suburbs : https://tinyurl.com/y8px57tm

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (royi5)

142
"I don't know if it's true that the academy has seen wages fall. I'm quite sure that's not true, unless there's a caste system in the academy in which most workers are kept from full-time positions and are paid menial wages while a select few (incluing all the administrators, of course) make hundreds of thousands per year."

Adjunct faculty, were you're paid by the course. Often a few hundred or a few thousand. No tenure, you can be "fired" if they don't send you an offer for the next semester. Think of it as Uber for higher education: you get paid when you work.

Additionally, most "research" oriented universities hire graduate students to teach introductory courses for their major, or related majors. For instance, a math major could teach a statistics course.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (ZTZBG)

143 You'd think Nunes would have more sense by now than to promise something in two weeks.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (sWM8x)

144 Here's an easy-to-understand explanation of how he came up with that prediction:

https://tinyurl.com/yb2tpjll

Posted by: Empire1 at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (AKR79)

145 That fella Tytler knew a thing or two about cycles.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (wXDpy)

146 125 >>Jim McKay who was leading the Olympic coverage made a very simple statement after the attack that I will never forget, "They're all gone."

Fun fact: the grandson of the mastermind of that attack is a US citizen and ran for Congress in CA in 2018. Justice Democrat, naturally. Think he may be running again?

And he spent his childhood hanging out with granddad and his pals. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (bDqIh)

His grandad and his grandad's pals did not live long afterward; they all met with "accidents". The 9mm kind.

Posted by: Mossad at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (QMwOT)

147
Haven't read yet, but the disaffected college grads with useless degrees are the direct result of the "everyone needs to go to college" dopes infiltrating our education system and poisoning our children's minds.
Posted by: Furious George at June 08, 2020 05:41 PM (9vQJW)

If everyone has a college degree, what good is a college degree?
But employed, unemployed or underemployed , they will remain Leftists because that's what they learned in college.

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (CqE5x)

148 The 20 thru 40 somethings living in the city have no friends because social media takes up most of their time. They do have "friends" on social media who they have never really met, or want to meet. They live in a media bubble that has nothing to do with reality.

Posted by: Colin at June 08, 2020 05:44 PM (9WMQu)

149 Chris Cuomo caught nude in wife's yoga video : https://tinyurl.com/y9qwe2wd

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 08, 2020 05:44 PM (royi5)

150 Next week I should be a firearm owner.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 08, 2020 05:34 PM (5abMI)

Congrats, you and Tim Pool both.

What'cha getting?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 08, 2020 05:44 PM (d1uFV)

151 Maybe he was part of the planning. They had the viral release and the riots planned for a decade.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 05:44 PM (dNzKv)

152
no that was palestinians, black september I think.

Baader Meinhow was a communist revolutionary terrorist group that did kidnappings, killings, and bank robberies, I think, but almost all in Germany and I don't know that any made The Big Stage of world attention.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2020 05:33 PM (PbpT7)

Typical mohammedan crap. Genocidal Palis name their exclusively Jew-killing terror group after the time when fellow mohammedan King Hussein (incidentally, a direct descendant of Big Mo himself) slaughtered them because the Palis tried to overthrow his regime.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 05:44 PM (EGyGV)

153 The academy has seen wages fall as a whole, since the top tier tenured professoriate has maintained, (or increased), their wage level, while the academy has taken on an increased number of low/non paid lecturers and teaching assistants.

As an undergrad in the '80's all my classes were taught personally by PhD full professors. Today, those jobs are outsourced to the lower dregs of the academic community, TAs, etc...)

It's all about tenure and the steep pyramid to climb to get it.

Posted by: Bones at June 08, 2020 05:44 PM (bc+R5)

154 Thing is, these unhappy young people are NOT intellectuals. They have watered down degrees, not based on scholarship, no extensive academic work requiring rigor, and instruction that is hamstrung as far as free intellectual goes. They are pseudo- intellectuals at best. At worst, the are politicized cyphers that bring little to the table except for " Right Thought". They have little value, actually.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 05:45 PM (bCLt0)

155 Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators

Is that an obtuse way of saying indictments are coming? Or did he mean Durham is going to send indictment recommendations (referrals) to AG Barr? The world wonders...

Posted by: Gref at June 08, 2020 05:45 PM (AMIL/)

156 So should Ace copyright the title the "Orange Catholic Bible"??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (TQ/zJ)

157 Being lazy while expecting to be successful is like expecting to have your cake and eat it too.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (xIBU4)

158 Young people also go into debt for that cllege degree because they have no experience in earning a living and lots of experience sitting in a classroom.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (YynYJ)

159 OAN Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators
----
[Makes jerk-off motion with hand]

Sure.

Referrals.

Will it go on their permanent record?
Before or after the promise to never misbehave again?

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (aO8Gd)

160
The 20 thru 40 somethings living in the city have no friends because social media takes up most of their time. They do have "friends" on social media who they have never really met, or want to meet. They live in a media bubble that has nothing to do with reality.
Posted by: Colin at June 08, 2020 05:44 PM (9WMQu)

*looks at fellow Hordian friends-in-a-gray box*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (EGyGV)

161 @154: "They are pseudo- intellectuals at best."

No, worse, they are indentured ideologues.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (+oVP5)

162 STEM degrees will always be in vogue as they are the hardest to get.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (QMwOT)

163 104
This Turbhin guy dovetails with Strauss-Howe generational theory. They
break the cycles into 25 yrs. though. 4 cycles that keep repeating.

Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (0LaWm)

That's what sprung to mind as I read it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (KnJdm)

164 160
The 20 thru 40 somethings living in the city have no friends because social media takes up most of their time. They do have "friends" on social media who they have never really met, or want to meet. They live in a media bubble that has nothing to do with reality.
Posted by: Colin at June 08, 2020 05:44 PM (9WMQu)

*looks at fellow Hordian friends-in-a-gray box*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (EGyGV)

Hey, we have MoMe's and range trips....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (d1uFV)

165 Chris Cuomo caught nude in wife's yoga video
___

I'll be in my bunk

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (WdocV)

166 I do wonder how far you could get down the list before you got in trouble in a given situation. It'd be interesting to see exactly where someone blows a gasket. Say you find yourself in an HR meeting regarding new initiatives or something and you just start rattling off the list

Black Lives Matter and
Brown Lives Matter and
Asian Lives Matter and
Trans Lives Matter and
Gay Lives Matter and
Native Lives Matter and
Women's Lives Matter and
Immigrants Lives Matter and
Muslim Lives Matter but
White Christian Hetero Men's Lives absolutely do not matter.

What's my prize? two weeks of sensitivity training? aw crap!

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (Wm5SB)

167 My theory suggests that it will be 2020 when the US hits a new peak of violence.

Um, rather nailed that, huh?

+++++++++++++

Time will tell. I doubt this is the peak.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM

---

Nope. People haven't started tossing bombs into crowds of innocent people like they did in the 60s and 70s.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (JUOKG)

168 >>You'd think Nunes would have more sense by now than to promise something in two weeks.

Criminal referrals from Congress on people who are already under investigation aren't really all that meaningful.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (ZLI7S)

169 It is not enough to e good with a shovel.

One man with a shovel will never keep up.

To be the Master Digger of Mass Graves one must keep up to date on technological digging thingies.

I am Laslo.

Posted by: laslo at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (2tVx1)

170 That may have been Cuomo's best friend.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (royi5)

171 No, worse, they are indentured ideologues.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (+oVP5)
----------------

Stolen and, if my memory retains it, I may actually attribute.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (WEBkv)

172
OT:

Yo, ace. I sent you an email a couple of days ago....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (EGyGV)

173
That whole "you earn more with a college degree" thing has been screwing up this country for years.

Sure, that was true when only the very top of the class went to college, and when many college degrees had a practical use. But college wasn't making those people significantly smarter. They would have earned more money with our without the degree.

But all we took from it was, "Better send my kid to college or he'll be poor all his life. What's he going to study? Hell, I don't know. He's kind of a dullard, so hopefully he'll stick to something simple, like journalism."
Posted by: Wally at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (/72Gb)

True, but they degraded the whole idea of a liberal arts degree--I mean a real one, where you read worthwhile books, learned how to write, and maybe a foreign language.
A liberal arts degree in the 40's or 50's opened a lot of doors.

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (CqE5x)

174 @162: "STEM degrees will always be in vogue as they are the hardest to get."

Make 'em take organic chemistry first year and shun anyone who makes even the slightest peep.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (+oVP5)

175 If everyone has a college degree, what good is a college degree?

But employed, unemployed or underemployed , they will remain Leftists because that's what they learned in college.

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 05:43 PM (CqE5x)

A college degree only has value if it has value. An engineering degree or a medical degree has value. I'm not going to list all the BS degrees that have no value, but there are many.

Posted by: Colin at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (9WMQu)

176 @153:

That's exactly right. The tenured are more radicalized for the same reason Romney and the corporations are fellating BLM: it's to stave off revolt. Again, as I wrote above, Andrew Stuttaford normally is more precise on these things.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (puu6v)

177 @171: "Stolen and, if my memory retains it, I may actually attribute."

No need to steal, all yours, but please spread far and wide.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:48 PM (+oVP5)

178 They'd better hope for a better fate than the first Red Guards, who were slaughtered en masse by the People's Liberation Army.

That's so unfair.

Millions of them were shipped off to the countryside to become subsistence farmers as well.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 05:48 PM (I2/tG)

179
Make 'em take organic chemistry first year and shun anyone who makes even the slightest peep.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (+oVP5)

Make 'em take P Chem first year. Nothing like some statistical thermodynamics to take the starch out of you.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2020 05:49 PM (mht8P)

180 This Turbhin guy dovetails with Strauss-Howe generational theory. They
break the cycles into 25 yrs. though. 4 cycles that keep repeating.

Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (0LaWm)

That's what sprung to mind as I read it.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (KnJdm)

This all sort of mirrors the "strong man/good times/weak man/bad times" illustration too.

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 05:49 PM (CqE5x)

181
*looks at fellow Hordian friends-in-a-gray box*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (EGyGV)

I was gonna say.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping up and down. at June 08, 2020 05:49 PM (GbPPJ)

182 You will be absorbed. Your individuality will merge into the unity of good, and in your submergence into the common being of the body, you will find contentment, fulfillment. You will experience the absolute good.

Joy be with you. Peace and contentment.

Posted by: Al Landru, Kollege Professor at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (Z+IKu)

183 @179: "Make 'em take P Chem first year. Nothing like some statistical thermodynamics to take the starch out of you."

*nods slowly in agreement*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (+oVP5)

184 I want to go back to college....good times.

But all good things must come to an end.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (d1uFV)

185 Cliodynamics is what rushes through your colon when you eat Taco Bell at 3 am while watching an infomercial for a psychic hotline.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (Geoni)

186 I seldom pay any attention to predictions of future history.

Posted by: H. Seldon, at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (e1mEI)

187 Woot, speed loaders and 686 have shipped!

That is all.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (WEBkv)

188 LMAO...yeah, imagine that. A self-proclaimed expert predicting conflict in a non-dormant society that allows (for the most part) freedoms.

Stand back, I have something big forming in my pointy little brain. Yup...here it comes...whoa, stand back....

Picking an election year to suggest chaos and violence encouraged by an out of office political party with a history of same is right up there with looking through a telescope at Jupiter, admiring the nice crimson shade of the spot on the planet and then proclaiming with wonder..."Gosh, I wonder what color the red spot on Jupiter is."

Posted by: Orson at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (9iD40)

189 It's almost starting to feel like The Man InThe High Castle

Posted by: Pete Seria at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (7ZQe3)

190 "Chris Cuomo caught nude..."

I ain't clickin' on dat

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (w7KSn)

191 As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn, The Gods of the Copybook Headings, with terror and slaughter return!

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (xIBU4)

192 What were Lenin's thoughts if there were too many bourgeoisie, and not enough proletariat? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 05:51 PM (7Fj9P)

193 As the Master Digger of Mass Graves, you must have access to large areas of land.

In the past, we would steal this land from the Indians.

Now we must look anew.

Kansas, maybe.

I am Laslo.

Posted by: laslo at June 08, 2020 05:51 PM (2tVx1)

194 187 Woot, speed loaders and 686 have shipped!

That is all.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (WEBkv)

I predict fun times ahead.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 08, 2020 05:51 PM (d1uFV)

195 Violence & chaos in 2020, but no mention of a toilet paper shortage, that would've been helpful.

Posted by: WeBoned! at June 08, 2020 05:51 PM (8k7U7)

196 Make 'em take organic chemistry first year and shun anyone who makes even the slightest peep.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (+oVP5)

I saw a thread where people were posting pics of books that made them weep and someone posted a picture of his organic chemistry book.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping up and down. at June 08, 2020 05:51 PM (GbPPJ)

197 Make 'em take P Chem first year. Nothing like some statistical thermodynamics to take the starch out of you.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

You are a very bad man.

Posted by: Dizzy Gillespie at June 08, 2020 05:51 PM (T6t7i)

198 True, but they degraded the whole idea of a liberal arts degree--I mean a real one, where you read worthwhile books, learned how to write, and maybe a foreign language.
A liberal arts degree in the 40's or 50's opened a lot of doors.

In 1959, fewer than ten percent of the population had a four-year degree.

When you are taught that ideas that you don't like should be suppressed, rather than refuted, you don't get much of an education.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 05:51 PM (I2/tG)

199

Posted by: pep = Dizzy Gillespie at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (T6t7i)

200 I imagine we will have to have a Burning Times in order to clear this rot out. Back to Basics for a period, to focus some dilletante minds. The collateral damage will be tragic, but there is historical precedent for this.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (bCLt0)

201 Was thinking the other day how all these Leftist college students are going to take working in fields planting crops or harvesting them in the future after the revolution.

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (6f16T)

202

So, violence is kind of like the tides.

The tides come and go, sometimes even causing havoc.

Anyone who lives on or visits an ocean, knows the ocean always wins, eventually.

Are people sentient beings with the ability to control their own destiny, or controlled by the orbit of the moon? If it is the latter, I have sure wasted a lot of time in church.

I tend to believe the real fact that history is mis-taught and the facts mangled. Public schools don't teach the miracle of how the Constitution was created, and the circumstances that existed when that happened.

Instead, it is now being taught that America was just a vessel for slavery and to put down people of color for 4 centuries. Nothing else really happened, the white man is rich off of the backs of the poor people of color, just like it's always been. Incredible improvements to add to the quality of life for all are ignored, in fact, denied.

It's easy to control someone when they have no idea of the truth or their own history.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (sy5kK)

203 A college degree only has value if it has value. An engineering degree or a medical degree has value. I'm not going to list all the BS degrees that have no value, but there are many.
Posted by: Colin at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (9WMQu)

I agree, and speaking of as a one-time liberal arts major, you can't go wrong with MATH and SCIENCE

Trouble is, to master those subjects, you have to be a cut above most other people.

You can bullshit your way through a liberal arts degree.
Not math and science

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (CqE5x)

204 Storm's coming...

Posted by: The Mule at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (Rbu5d)

205 As the Great Dennis Leary once said in a comedy routine "Life Sucks, Get a Fuckin' Helmet"

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (uQFnR)

206 133 His premise is just another way to say that old saying:

Hard Men make good times . . .

Posted by: Chillin the most
_____________

Yes, as you say, for very good times.

Posted by: The Paolo at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (9vQJW)

207 @196: "... and someone posted a picture of his organic chemistry book."

An oldie, but a goodie.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (+oVP5)

208 Maslow also nailed it with his hierarchy of needs.

Anyone who has faced significant struggles and then "made it" understands implicitly.

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (Ed8Zd)

209 201
Was thinking the other day how all these Leftist college students are
going to take working in fields planting crops or harvesting them in the
future after the revolution.

Posted by: Skip

In my experience, not well.

Posted by: Pol Pot at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (T6t7i)

210 People who haven't experienced violence are the ones who romanticize it.

Posted by: iandeal at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (vgGyZ)

211 How's this guys average on lottery numbers?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (wXDpy)

212 194
187 Woot, speed loaders and 686 have shipped!

That is all.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (WEBkv)

I predict fun times ahead.
Nice. With magnums its very tolerable. With 38 wadcutters, its a kitten. Very pleasant. Great eastern Rockies mountain gun. You know, for cougars, black bears, hippies...

Posted by: Greyman27 at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (RKLPC)

213 As the Great Dennis Leary once said in a comedy routine "Life Sucks, Get a Fuckin' Helmet"
___

This is terrible advice.

Every girl I brought home laughed at me and ran out the door.

Posted by: Some Moron with a Helmet at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (WdocV)

214 Bright spot: My daughter's university refunded about $5,000.00 for their unused room/board. And, even though I thought we earned over the threshold, Uncle Sugar sent me/wife a check.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 05:54 PM (7Fj9P)

215 As the Master Digger of Mass Graves, you must use your mind as well as your muscles.

Such as: bury the fat ones deepest. It will be easier to compact from the top that way.

I am Laslo.

Posted by: laslo at June 08, 2020 05:54 PM (2tVx1)

216 183
@179: "Make 'em take P Chem first year. Nothing like some statistical thermodynamics to take the starch out of you."

*nods slowly in agreement*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (+oVP5)

I'd bet that a large majority would beg to dig ditches to get out of it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 05:54 PM (KnJdm)

217 ...and I hit the tip jar yesterday.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 05:54 PM (7Fj9P)

218 In my experience, not well.
___

If only comrade Obama knew about what they do to us here!

Posted by: Some Anti-fa picking lettuce in 2035 at June 08, 2020 05:54 PM (WdocV)

219 Was thinking the other day how all these Leftist college students are

going to take working in fields planting crops or harvesting them in the

future after the revolution.

Posted by: Skip

In my experience, not well.

Posted by: Pol Pot

OTOH, at least we'll have a use for all the plastic bags you can't use at the grocery store anymore.

Posted by: pep at June 08, 2020 05:54 PM (T6t7i)

220 200 I imagine we will have to have a Burning Times in order to clear this rot out. Back to Basics for a period, to focus some dilletante minds. The collateral damage will be tragic, but there is historical precedent for this.
Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 05:52 PM (bCLt0)

At this point, I'm thinking this is the best-case scenario.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 08, 2020 05:55 PM (d1uFV)

221 Make 'em take organic chemistry first year and shun anyone who makes even the slightest peep.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:47 PM (+oVP5)

You know, organian chemistry cannot exist since they are pure energy beings.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 08, 2020 05:55 PM (e1mEI)

222 I'm not clicking on the Cuomo tape, but if he happens to be hung, it was done on purpose.
If not, it was an accident.

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 05:55 PM (CqE5x)

223 The violence will stop once enough of the over-abundant elite die off digging the canals.

Posted by: Roy at June 08, 2020 05:55 PM (Ti+Tv)

224 Black American culture has crippled black Americans from participating in the American Dream. Abortion, nonexistent fathers, the inability to get past slavery, a lack of respect for laws and authority, these are killing black America and will continue too. Once black American culture changes, then their fulfillment of the American Dream can begin.

Step 1: Get off the Democratic Plantation.
Step 2: For Black Lives to Matter stop aborting them and realize that children need fathers.
Step 3: One cannot properly parent while in jail. Stop going there.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (QMwOT)\

Preach!

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 05:55 PM (Ed8Zd)

225 107. bluebell, saw your comment after I posted mine.

Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 05:55 PM (0LaWm)

226 Next week I should be a firearm owner.

Posted by: thathalfrican -

-

(fistbump)

Much easier than carrying around a cop.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 08, 2020 05:56 PM (jKqap)

227 183 @179: "Make 'em take P Chem first year. Nothing like some statistical thermodynamics to take the starch out of you."

*nods slowly in agreement*
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:50 PM (+oVP5)

Wow.

...

Dear God man. Is there no strain of Christian charity remaining in you?

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2020 05:56 PM (yL25O)

228 38 I think his timing was a bit off. People seem to forget there was a lot of violence and chaos during the Obama years. Well the media does it's best to memory hole it so maybe that's the reason.

Trump was the reaction all of that. We might be a bit further down the road to ending this crap. I know I'm sick of it.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2020 05:30 PM (ZLI7S)

A little while ago I heard news on a streaming service ( was listening to Dennis Prager online today). I think it was Townhall News.

Anyway, the report was about how the economy crashed during the lockdown, after a record high, wait for it...11 year boom.

Whatthe...

Posted by: The Mule at June 08, 2020 05:56 PM (Rbu5d)

229 I believe the term is "pseudoelites"

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at June 08, 2020 05:56 PM (CLteG)

230
27,572.44 +461.46 (+1.70%)
At close: 5:06PM EDT

Posted by: DJIA Deathwatch at June 08, 2020 05:56 PM (xIBU4)

231 211 How's this guys average on lottery numbers?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (wXDpy)

Did he have Hillary winning? That's a good barometer.

Posted by: Roy at June 08, 2020 05:56 PM (Ti+Tv)

232
What were Lenin's thoughts if there were too many bourgeoisie, and not enough proletariat? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 05:51 PM (7Fj9P)

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Comrades! The insurrection of five kulak districts should be pitilessly suppressed. The interests of the whole revolution require this because 'the last decisive battle' with the kulaks is now under way everywhere. An example must be demonstrated.

1. Hang (absolutely hang, in full view of the people) no fewer than one hundred known kulaks, filthy rich men, bloodsuckers.
2. Publish their names.
3. Seize all grain from them.
4. Designate hostages - in accordance with yesterday's telegram.

Do it in such a fashion, that for hundreds of verst around the people see, tremble, know, shout: "strangling (is done) and will continue for the bloodsucking kulaks".

Telegraph the receipt and the implementation.
Yours, Lenin.

P.S. Use your toughest people for this.

Telegram to the Penza Soviet, August 11, 1918

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2020 05:56 PM (mht8P)

233 Buh bye sock

Posted by: Flyover at June 08, 2020 05:56 PM (Rbu5d)

234 You tell idiots they *need* a college degree *and* with one life will be easy street just to get that federal aid flowing into colleges.
You then create useless departments within colleges, such as the "humanities" and "women's studies" etc., to make sure you get the maximum number of idiots the ability to actually obtain a degree (thereby maximizing the amount of federal aid flowing to colleges).
Sounded like a good plan, but they didn't count on those idiots with their useless degrees finding out that being a college graduate doesn't make life easy street -- at least not when you have a useless degree.
Now the idiots are mad. But they can't take personal responsibility - they blame capitalism and "systemic racism." Anything to avoid admitting they were duped.

Posted by: Venus at June 08, 2020 05:57 PM (iYXhj)

235
I'm not clicking on the Cuomo tape, but if he happens to be hung, it was done on purpose.
If not, it was an accident.
Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 05:55 PM (CqE5x)

Even if he's hung like a cricket, it was done on purpose, guaranteed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 05:57 PM (EGyGV)

236 Nice. With magnums its very tolerable. With 38 wadcutters, its a kitten. Very pleasant. Great eastern Rockies mountain gun. You know, for cougars, black bears, hippies...
Posted by: Greyman27 at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (RKLPC)
------------

I intend on shooting 38 Special +P out of it. Same ammunition I use in my snub nose. Out of a 4" barrel, it will probably be lots of bite, little bark.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 05:57 PM (WEBkv)

237 I think it is more a matter of a percentage of assholes who are always pushing to see what they can get away with. And when society lets them get away with more and more, then others jump in and then you crack down or it runs away from you.

Dismantling the police force would be like pouring liquid oxygen on a bonfire. I suspect the Minneapolis City Council members assume they will have moved on to a State level or Federal level office by the time the fertilizer hits the rotary circulation device. I can only hope they will be held accountable.

Posted by: JB1000 at June 08, 2020 05:57 PM (EB8LJ)

238 80 Last December an astrologer on Noory said 2020 was going to be a bad year in the U.S. Something about Saturn and Mars in bad aspect. Pluto too.
Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 05:35 PM (0LaWm)

Can't blame me, I'm not a planet anymore...

Posted by: Pluto at June 08, 2020 05:58 PM (Rbu5d)

239 I've been trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied.

Posted by: davidt at June 08, 2020 05:58 PM (l3+k2)

240
Anyway, the report was about how the economy crashed during the lockdown, after a record high, wait for it...11 year boom.

Whatthe...
Posted by: The Mule at June 08, 2020 05:56 PM (Rbu5d)

And that my friend is how history gets re-written. You don't have to make a big announcement, just slip the lie right in there....

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 05:58 PM (CqE5x)

241 Anyways, I remember thathalfrican offered to buy me a beer last week, so I'd like to take him up on that offer, and establish an official chapter of Morons in the (soon to be defunded) Free State of Minneapolis as soon as possible.

Surely, there's a good, unarsoned bar along Lake Street, somewhere.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 05:58 PM (+oVP5)

242 @110
This is today's public service announcement,

If you live in a different state than your friend in Ark, no can do on sales or even gimmes across state lines between individuals without involving ffl transfer. It is a felony. They can't buy it for you either as that is the definition of a strawbuyer.

Violates federal law (and perhaps your state laws as well).

So, if you want to acquire a firearm, do it legally. Read the ATF faq's on the matter.

Posted by: whig at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (dQFEv)

243 It really must suck to be one of the younger elite. You rack up 300K in student debt, finally get a job, work your way up the ladder a bit, and buy the McMansion in an elite neighborhood. You find out your neighbor is a plumber.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (C1Lsn)

244 Next week I should be a firearm owner.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off

That's nice, but I'm not sure you really needed the 155 mm Howitzer.

Posted by: pep at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (T6t7i)

245 We had this shit in 2015, 2016 and 2017 didn't we?

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (uEbPt)

246 It's pretty clear to me that "defund cops" really means "defund relatively neutral cops and install our cops instead."

So no, they won't be touched. Crime will skyrocket and they won't be affected, because the criminals will know the game. Don't hit a protected target.

Everyone else? Fair game due to original racist sin.

Put the sign in the window, or else. Signal why you shouldn't be touched. Grovel. Pay your protection dues, and you best hope the deal doesn't change next time.

That should scare the absolute hell out of anyone.

The flaw in their plan is that they're stupid and they think their commissars won't be targeted in kind.

Posted by: grognard at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (sb+Cg)

247 ' and Jupiter was aligned with Mars! And Mars was aligned with Pluto!'

Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (0LaWm)

248 "239 I've been trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied."

My heart want Vlacek Havel. My head is telling me Alexander Kerensky.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (puu6v)

249 Why is college so expensive?

You should be able to take any class you want, on-line, for $19.95.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (Z+IKu)

250 trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied.
Posted by: davidt

--

Oliver Cromwell?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (kA3Cp)

251 Was thinking the other day how all these Leftist college students are going to take working in fields planting crops or harvesting them in the future after the revolution.
=======================
They've convinced themselves they will be the guards on horse-back, in spiffy uniforms and mirrored sunglasses, forcing the 1%ers to work faster, with the tip of their bayonet.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (7Fj9P)

252 That's nice, but I'm not sure you really needed the 155 mm Howitzer.
Posted by: pep at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (T6t7i)
-------------

Hey, hey, hey! Let's not be too hasty, here!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (WEBkv)

253 I've been trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied.

Maggie Thatcher.

Posted by: pep at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (T6t7i)

254
I saw a thread where people were posting pics of books that made them weep and someone posted a picture of his organic chemistry book.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping up and down. at June 08, 2020 05:51 PM (GbPPJ)

I don't want to disparage the many brilliant organic chemists I've known, but undergraduate organic chemistry is, relatively speaking, remembering a few basic reactions and employing them in an enormous number of ways.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (mht8P)

255 Does this AR500 vest make me look fat?

Posted by: Guzalot at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (Rz36l)

256 My heart want Vlacek Havel. My head is telling me Alexander Kerensky.

Ouch.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (xIBU4)

257 I've been trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied.
Posted by: davidt at June 08, 2020 05:58 PM (l3+k2)

There has to be some Roman that is similar to Trump, but the fact that there aren't too many like him is an illustration that the "Elite" don't like gate-crashers.

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (CqE5x)

258 It's pretty clear to me that "defund cops" really means "defund relatively neutral cops and install our cops instead."

So no, they won't be touched. Crime will skyrocket and they won't be affected, because the criminals will know the game. Don't hit a protected target.

Everyone else? Fair game due to original racist sin.

Put the sign in the window, or else. Signal why you shouldn't be touched. Grovel. Pay your protection dues, and you best hope the deal doesn't change next time.

***
Posted by: grognard at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (sb+Cg)
M

Maybe some type of Sicilian Symbol, just as an homage?

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (Ed8Zd)

259
That's nice, but I'm not sure you really needed the 155 mm Howitzer.
Posted by: pep at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (T6t7i)

Need's got nothin' to do with it...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (EGyGV)

260 236
Nice. With magnums its very tolerable. With 38 wadcutters, its a kitten.
Very pleasant. Great eastern Rockies mountain gun. You know, for
cougars, black bears, hippies...

Posted by: Greyman27 at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (RKLPC)

------------

I intend on shooting 38 Special +P out of it. Same ammunition I use
in my snub nose. Out of a 4" barrel, it will probably be lots of bite,
little bark.
Good choice. Plenty of muzzle energy for social situations. I mainly bought mine when I (briefly) lived in Colorado. Would take it fly fishing or bow hunting loaded with 180-grain Partition magnums. Fired only as many as needed to insure POA/POI. Expensive (at the time) and sorta painful!

Posted by: Greyman27 at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (RKLPC)

261 208 Maslow also nailed it with his hierarchy of needs.

Anyone who has faced significant struggles and then "made it" understands implicitly.
Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 05:53 PM (Ed8Zd)

...

My wife thinks this is why the largest cohort of those freaking out about Wuhanitis seem to be the younger part of the population.

They just haven't had enough hard life experience to put it in perspective.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (yL25O)

262 As the Master Digger of Mass Graves, you must constantly evaluate progress.

While watching the Intellectuals dig their own graves is amusing at first, their lack of prowess with the shovel renders them highly inefficient.

As such, you have two main choices:

*use machinery to speed up the task;

*make them wear clown shoes.

The latter doesn't make them dig any faster, but sometimes you have to smell the roses.

I am Laslo.

Posted by: laslo at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (2tVx1)

263 Dismantling the police force would be like pouring liquid oxygen on a bonfire.

I think that what they actually mean is cutting the police budget by 20%, and redistributing that to the usual gang of poverty pimps and race hustlers.

Cops are expensive - that will be a lot of new money flowing to the usual suspects.

Yeah, the crime rate will be a lot higher, but most of the victims will be poor blacks, so who cares? /s

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (I2/tG)

264 Someone said once " in this world, you will have trouble". This helps with my own perspective on our times. There is a profound spiritual component to what is currently unfolding.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (bCLt0)

265 258
It's pretty clear to me that "defund cops" really means "defund relatively neutral cops and install ~~our cops~~ the Stasi instead."

FIFY

Posted by: pep at June 08, 2020 06:02 PM (T6t7i)

266 Trump back on the rally stump while Biden cowers in his basement.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:02 PM (dNzKv)

267 I've been trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied.

Maggie Thatcher.
Posted by: pep at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (T6t7i)

Has to be someone rich and successful in a totally different field who comes to power and shows the powerful how it's done.

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 06:02 PM (CqE5x)

268 Utter nonsense.

Even if it is intuitive and "makes sense" does not mean it has any predictive power whatsoever.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 08, 2020 06:02 PM (4BMGG)

269 I've been trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied.
Posted by: davidt at June 08, 2020 05:58 PM (l3+k2)

There has to be some Roman that is similar to Trump, but the fact that there aren't too many like him is an illustration that the "Elite" don't like gate-crashers.
Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (CqE5x).

Churchill

Brilliant, iconoclast, and despised the the elite insiders as a crude, brash asshole.

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 06:02 PM (Ed8Zd)

270 Journalism is dying because a.) they're liars, b.) everybody knows it and c.) the Interwebz.

Hell, they spend half the day hiding news and the other half twisting it.

The Academy (and the Perma-Blob Gummint) is fine, though--because of the aforementioned student debt load. Those Obama Loans are not designed to help students but fully-fund their Commie professors.

If there's too many graduates, well, that's why they make Starbucks.

I think it was Victor Davis Hanson who wrote about how this is not the usual working-class revolt against the Elites, but a revolt of the Elites against American workers.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 08, 2020 06:03 PM (Ndje9)

271 *** by the elite***

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 06:03 PM (Ed8Zd)

272 66 Baader Meinhoff was a communist revolutionary terrorist group that
did kidnappings, killings, and bank robberies, I think, but almost all
in Germany and I don't know that any made The Big Stage of world
attention.

my dad was army cid and spent some time chasing them around stuttgart in the mid '70s.

there's a good film about them, The Baader-Meinhoff Complex.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2020 06:03 PM (sGtp+)

273 Marcus Aurelius.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 06:03 PM (bCLt0)

274 bluebell at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (/669Q)

I thought the exact same thing when I read this.

Posted by: Grannymimi at June 08, 2020 06:04 PM (u5LFV)

275 243 It really must suck to be one of the younger elite. You rack up 300K in student debt, finally get a job, work your way up the ladder a bit, and buy the McMansion in an elite neighborhood. You find out your neighbor is a plumber.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (C1Lsn)

...

And the plumber voted Trump.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2020 06:04 PM (yL25O)

276 The families of the five slain Police Officers in Dallas remember 2017.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 08, 2020 06:04 PM (wXDpy)

277 Genghis Khan.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:04 PM (dNzKv)

278 Gaius Marius? Before the strokes, of course.

Talk about an outsider.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Got Bad Knees, so GFY at June 08, 2020 06:04 PM (x8Wzq)

279 Next week I should be a firearm owner.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off

That's nice, but I'm not sure you really needed the 155 mm Howitzer.
Posted by: pep at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (T6t7i)
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Heh, reminds me, I used to drive by Honeywell in Hopkins, MN when they had a self-propelled 155 sitting outside. It was obvious what it was, the blanket they had over it really wasn't much of a disguise. I believe it was there so Honeywell could work on the fire control system.

Hmm, Walter, Half, are you taking note, just in case?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 06:05 PM (WEBkv)

280 Cincinnatus

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2020 06:05 PM (AwPyG)

281 >>Talk about an outsider.

He was no Pony boy.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2020 06:05 PM (Um4xe)

282 There is a trend in academia to hire low-level grads to do almost all of the teaching. They hire them as part-timers so as not to provide benefits.
So people with masters degrees and beyond are being paid peanuts to do all the work.. Who do they blame?
NOT the institutions.. NOT the highly paid professors for whom they do all the grunt work..
They blame you and me for not wanting to cough up more tax dollars to pay for their stupid asses who will not stand up for themselves in the workplace.
This is very much like the argument I have with my daughter's musician friends.. who complain they are asked by club owners to guarantee a certain draw and who do not get paid (or paid very little), but are offered "exposure" and ability to sell CD's.
When I tell them, "that's stupid. I never worked a gig for free in my life except for charity events" when I did gigs back in the 80's.. they respond.. well "you have to do that.. it's the system!"
I laugh.. right in their faces.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 08, 2020 06:05 PM (CjFDo)

283 Churchill

Brilliant, iconoclast, and despised the the elite insiders as a crude, brash asshole.
Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 06:02 PM (Ed8Zd)

True, but he came from an aristocratic family. Wasn't his father the Duke of Marlborough?

Although having an American mother would cost him points in the British class system game...

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 06:05 PM (CqE5x)

284 trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied.

Posted by: davidt

Churchill: American mother, British Father
Trump: American Father, Scottish Mother

Both in their time considered by "polite" company to be boorish, rude, and crude, noted for their insults. And for their love of their countries.

Posted by: Bert G at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (OMsf+)

285 My wife thinks this is why the largest cohort of those freaking out about Wuhanitis seem to be the younger part of the population.

They just haven't had enough hard life experience to put it in perspective.

You saw a lot of absolute outrage among woke young people because their elderly relatives refused to place themselves into complete isolation in response to the CCCP virus.

I think the thought process of the elderly was: 1) "I've seen a lot worse"; and 2) "I'm 75 - I'm not going to lock myself up for months in response to a bug. Given my age, I'll take my chances."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (I2/tG)

286 249
Why is college so expensive?

You should be able to take any class you want, on-line, for $19.95.

should be complementary with your amazon prime subscription.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (sGtp+)

287 Someone said once " in this world, you will have trouble"

Ah, but the light breaks through in the latter portion of that statement: "But be of good cheer. I have overcome the world."

Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (lwiT4)

288
16 Eh, not buying it.

First thing i thought of - "Foundation" - Asimov

Posted by: Grannymimi at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (u5LFV)

289 I will note that in the last week Lara Logan, Glenn Beck, and now Archbishop Carlo Vigano are pushing the idea that the deep state is behind the protests.

Archbishop Vigano Letter to Donald Trump 2020.06.07 on Scribd
https://t.co/NRex4vGsH0?amp=1

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (FBrfY)

290 Hell, they spend half the day hiding news and the other half twisting it.

They also can't talk worth a shit. Getting my toes done this afternoon and the place had CNN on. GAH! Anyway.. dumb bitch anchoring stumbled over every other word. I'm sitting there making commentary, poor kid working on me had to wonder if I was nuts.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (dUJdY)

291 I've been trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied.
Posted by: davidt at June 08, 2020 05:58 PM (l3+k2)

-------

Octavian?

Posted by: MAGA at June 08, 2020 06:07 PM (qClmZ)

292 My wife thinks this is why the largest cohort of those freaking out about Wuhanitis seem to be the younger part of the population.

They just haven't had enough hard life experience to put it in perspective.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2020 06:01 PM (yL25O)

My parents had it hard (born/grew up during depression then became young adults right as WWII began); my generation had it very good (too young for Vietnam); our kids have it great which made them too soft, unfortunately. Like Reagan said, we're only one generation away...

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 06:07 PM (Ed8Zd)

293 Read somewhere this defund really means less money for police and more shoveling it to Leftist groups.

Haven't mentioned in couple days Kayleigh is a sweetheart

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 06:07 PM (6f16T)

294 102 OAN Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (6f16T)
----------------------------------------

Given how much stuff has hit the fan in the last 4 years, which conspirators for which conspiracy?

Posted by: Boots at June 08, 2020 06:07 PM (oGBso)

295 Maybe the reason the British Empire was so stable for so long was that the second and third born sons were sent to the ends of the empire to earn their place?

If the second born son of the Duke of Whimsey is settling the hash of the fuzzy wuzzies in a distant British colony, he cannot stir up too much trouble in England.

Posted by: rd at June 08, 2020 06:07 PM (+0uDE)

296 246. not really though. Husbands and wives will still beat and stab each other, child abuse will reach horrific levels. Nuisance crimes, neighbor against neighbor will escalate. And who will you call when the gang-bangers tear up your hood? Will driveby shootings go unreported? They may think this plan will terrorize whitey, but in actuality daily life in the hond will become unspeakably painful.

Posted by: kallisto at June 08, 2020 06:08 PM (0LaWm)

297 I will note that in the last week Lara Logan, Glenn Beck, and now Archbishop Carlo Vigano are pushing the idea that the deep state is behind the protests.

Archbishop Vigano Letter to Donald Trump 2020.06.07 on Scribd
https://t.co/NRex4vGsH0?amp=1
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (FBrfY)

A lot of 20-something males who follow this stuff agree.

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 06:08 PM (Ed8Zd)

298 274
bluebell at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (/669Q)

I thought the exact same thing when I read this.

Posted by: Grannymimi at June 08, 2020 06:04 PM (u5LFV)

The problem with this and the Fourth Turning idea is it is retrospective, even when it promises to be prospective. If they miss the prediction by a few years, it is, "See, it came a little early/late."
If this were in the context of trading and markets, it would carry the disclaimer, "past results do not guarantee future performance."

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 06:08 PM (KnJdm)

299 248 "239 I've been trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied."

My heart want Vlacek Havel. My head is telling me Alexander Kerensky.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 08, 2020 06:00 PM (puu6v)

Vaclev Havel, too intellectual. Except for the personal wealth, I'm thinking Lech Walesa. It's hard because great conservative political leaders who are cheered by the working classes and despised by the elites are rather rare.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2020 06:08 PM (Kpl3J)

300 287 Someone said once " in this world, you will have trouble"

Ah, but the light breaks through in the latter portion of that statement: "But be of good cheer. I have overcome the world."
Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (lwiT4)

Yes. That is My underlying security. John, and Romans, grammie.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 06:08 PM (bCLt0)

301 If there's too many graduates, well, that's why they make Starbucks.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 08, 2020 06:03 PM (Ndje9)

It's worse than that, and a more cynical strategy by the Reds.

The idea was to generate a whole cadre of people with high expectations - after all, they were college graduates! - that would be frustrated and angry when they were reduced to doing menial labor, and ripe for agitation.

Of course, while they may be college graduates, but they majored in Unemployment Studies, a fact that they conveniently neglect to mention. (Whenever you see a bio that says someone graduated from X college, but does not mention in what subject, you KNOW it was in Unemployment Studies.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2020 06:09 PM (RFAn/)

302 Biden fighting back this defund campaign, just give him a little more time, he will evolve.

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 06:09 PM (6f16T)

303 Leftist college students are going to take working in fields planting crops or harvesting them in the future after the revolution.

Remembering a robt crumb panel, two ragged white men planting rice, watched by a zaftig chicom gal with AK:
" ...I used to be the editor of a rock n roll magazine".

Posted by: banned crumbs america at June 08, 2020 06:09 PM (e9kMK)

304
This is the perfect moment for RBG to croak.

A consummation devoutly to be wished.

Posted by: Grannymimi at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (u5LFV)

305 Archbishop Vigano Letter to Donald Trump 2020.06.07 on Scribd
https://t.co/NRex4vGsH0?amp=1
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (FBrfY)

He's a Cardinal? Make him Pope.

Posted by: joeF. at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (CqE5x)

306 "Defund the police" means more mental health professionals and social workers on scene with unarmed cops during "non-violent" complaints, and a metric fuck ton of administrative oversight to make sure those dilettantes don't get anyone killed.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (+oVP5)

307 Jewells, you could have been speaking in tongues and the kid wouldn't have minded, just glad to have a customer.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (wXDpy)

308 286
249

Why is college so expensive?

You should be able to take any class you want, on-line, for $19.95.

should be complementary with your amazon prime subscription.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (sGtp+)

You can learn almost anything you want, online, for the cost of a broadband connection, short of practicals such as labs, hands on training, etc.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (KnJdm)

309 Bongino said today something big may happen between the NYPD and the Mayor in the next few days............

Posted by: James at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (qM84C)

310 294 102 OAN Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (6f16T)
----------------------------------------

Given how much stuff has hit the fan in the last 4 years, which conspirators for which conspiracy?

Posted by: Boots at June 08, 2020 06:07 PM (oGBso)

---------

These are the referrals for the violating the Emoluments clause, and using US Military to settle unrest in the District of Columbia. / sarc

Posted by: rd at June 08, 2020 06:11 PM (+0uDE)

311 Trump is going to flush Biden out of his spider hole and make him start doing actual campaigning.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:11 PM (dNzKv)

312 The problem with this and the Fourth Turning idea is it is retrospective, even when it promises to be prospective. If they miss the prediction by a few years, it is, "See, it came a little early/late."
If this were in the context of trading and markets, it would carry the disclaimer, "past results do not guarantee future performance."
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 06:08 PM (KnJdm)

I think the 4th turning laid out a pretty good rationale for explaining things, but yes, it is all much too vague for concrete predictions. It does provide an explanation for why certain things keep coming around, like the Puritans following the very licentiousness Elizabethan period after a few years, much like the ultra-prudish SJW's rising after the hedonism of the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2020 06:12 PM (Kpl3J)

313 but a revolt of the Elites against American workers.

A while back, a "new media coordinator" for some web site was absolutely furious because Waffle House had recruitment pamphlets explaining what you would get paid as a junior manager at Waffle House, and how quickly you would get promoted and what the pay was at higher levels if you were a decent worker.

She was outraged - outraged- that managing a Waffle House paid a lot better than her job.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:12 PM (I2/tG)

314 I've been trying to think of an historic figure similar to Trump. Stymied.
Posted by: davidt at June 08, 2020 05:58 PM (l3+k2)

I can't think of anyone like him in US history. Probably some Roman emperor comes closest.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 08, 2020 06:12 PM (y7DUB)

315 309 Bongino said today something big may happen between the NYPD and the Mayor in the next few days............
Posted by: James at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (qM84C)

While I'd like to see them depose him, I doubt that's in the cards.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2020 06:12 PM (Kpl3J)

316 309
Bongino said today something big may happen between the NYPD and the Mayor in the next few days............

Posted by: James at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (qM84C)

Strike?

Posted by: davidt at June 08, 2020 06:13 PM (l3+k2)

317 I can't think of anyone like him in US history.

Andrew Jackson.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:13 PM (I2/tG)

318 Bongino said today something big may happen between the NYPD and the Mayor in the next few days............
Posted by: James at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (qM84C)

------------

Dare I hope it involves an MRAP and one of DeBlasio's Orifices?

Posted by: rd at June 08, 2020 06:13 PM (+0uDE)

319 China is your canary in a coalmine. These sneaky bastards are ready to roll!

Posted by: Fritz at June 08, 2020 06:13 PM (95j/9)

320 An evolutionary retrospective, but not most people's choice of fitness function. Hopefully, it is not evidence of a progressive condition.

Posted by: n.n at June 08, 2020 06:13 PM (qfsFY)

321 162 STEM degrees will always be in vogue as they are the hardest to get.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 08, 2020 05:46 PM (QMwOT)
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But they are by no means a sure thing, as far as good jobs are concerned. The H1-B visa program drives the wage market down at all levels.
You need to pick and choose carefully.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 08, 2020 06:13 PM (M/9m0)

322 Archbishop Vigano Letter to Donald Trump 2020.06.07 on Scribd

https://t.co/NRex4vGsH0?amp=1

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at June 08, 2020 06:06 PM (FBrfY)

WOW

Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:13 PM (lwiT4)

323 lol Ben Had.. that's probably true. It was surprisingly empty except for me and another lady. I really love this place.. I just hope they survive because it's never overly busy.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 08, 2020 06:13 PM (dUJdY)

324 309 Bongino said today something big may happen between the NYPD and the Mayor in the next few days.........
=======

Whatever happened to Cuomo pulling the plug on the mayor and sending him into exile?

Posted by: Pliney at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (nzKWW)

325 "I am Laslo.
Posted by: laslo at June 08, 2020 05:38 PM (2tVx1)"

Althouse's very own Laslo?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (3D/fK)

326
She was outraged - outraged- that managing a Waffle House paid a lot better than her job.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:12 PM (I2/tG)

A Waffle House manager has a much harder job than a "new media coordinator". Not to mention putting out a better product, even if it is Waffle House (N.B. I like Waffle House).

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (mht8P)

327 Bongino said today something big may happen between the NYPD and the Mayor in the next few days............

A bunch of guys are going to threaten to retire on their 6 figure check. Some will threaten to quit, but look at their $4000 mortgage and $100k credit card debt and continue to work.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (dNzKv)

328 I hope Trump is not like Romulus Augustulus. Really.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (bCLt0)

329 LOL at FB:
Find your royal name:
(Lord/Lady)
First Name: (your grandparent's first name)
Last Name: (last thing you ate, followed by 'of', followed by the name of the last place you bought something from)

...so I'm Lord Ken Steak of Amazon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (L2ZTs)

330 Bongino said today something big may happen between the NYPD and the Mayor in the next few days............
Posted by: James at June 08, 2020 06:10 PM (qM84C)

I hope they all walk out. Sorry to any friends in New York though. May be time to take a vacay?

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 08, 2020 06:15 PM (dUJdY)

331 Except for the personal wealth, I'm thinking Lech Walesa. It's hard because great conservative political leaders who are cheered by the working classes and despised by the elites are rather rare.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2020 06:08 PM (Kpl3J)

I thought Walesa too but for the wealth.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 08, 2020 06:15 PM (y7DUB)

332 King Jehu.

https://usawatchdog.com/god-using-trump-to-provide-window-of-time-jonathan-cahn/

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 08, 2020 06:15 PM (Ndje9)

333 >>> I will also note that you are rarely wrong to "follow the money" when investigating political trends.
Posted by: Grump928� at June 08, 2020 05:29 PM (xIBU4)

My American History in college said we would almost never go wrong on his test by answering MONEY, when asked WHY some significant event occurred (almost always a political one) in our country's history.

Of course we had to explain how, but money would be the starting point.

Posted by: Going yard at June 08, 2020 06:15 PM (zG0JF)

334 She was outraged - outraged- that managing a Waffle House paid a lot better than her job.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:12 PM (I2/tG)
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And yet, it didn't motivate her to seek new employment, I'll bet.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 08, 2020 06:16 PM (WEBkv)

335 Ah, a poll. Too bad that Undecideds are not going to see it, right?

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 06:16 PM (bCLt0)

336 Trump= Conan the Barbarian:
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:16 PM (dNzKv)

337 Who's PandemicPee?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:16 PM (lwiT4)

338 well "you have to do that.. it's the system!"
I laugh.. right in their faces.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 08, 2020 06:05 PM (CjFDo)

See also the "intern" system. Madness.

If you're not being paid, you KNOW what they think of your labor.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (RFAn/)

339 A Waffle House manager has a much harder job than a "new media coordinator".

Managing a busy restaurant always struck me as being a difficult job.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (I2/tG)

340 Althouse's very own Laslo?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (3D/fK)

Outhouse finally went full retard?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (y7DUB)

341 t

Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (lwiT4)

342 >>PandemicPete at June 08, 2020 06:15 PM (1uzX/)

How long do you plan to keep popping in her under different names posting CNN polls that no sane person gives a shit about?

You're wasting your time.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (ZLI7S)

343 246
It's pretty clear to me that "defund cops" really means "defund relatively neutral cops and install our cops instead."

So no, they won't be touched. Crime will skyrocket and they won't
be affected, because the criminals will know the game. Don't hit a
protected target.

Everyone else? Fair game due to original racist sin.

Put the sign in the window, or else. Signal why you shouldn't be
touched. Grovel. Pay your protection dues, and you best hope the deal
doesn't change next time.

That should scare the absolute hell out of anyone.

The flaw in their plan is that they're stupid and they think their commissars won't be targeted in kind.

Posted by: grognard at June 08, 2020 05:59 PM (sb+Cg)

++++The only thing that will not change is that the blacks will continue to kill other blacks, relentlessly. This is the crux of the matter and no one dares look at it or speak of it.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (UAOfD)

344 No such thing as tenured professors anymore really, just adjuncts... so yeah, a caste system is about the right description.

Posted by: em august at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (QmoH7)

345 Georgia State Peach Commission Poll

Biden 57%
Clingstone 37%
Trump 6%

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (xIBU4)

346 338 Trump= Conan the Barbarian:
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:16 PM (dNzKv)

And the lamentations of what passes for men among our enemies.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (RFAn/)

347 @325: "Althouse's very own Laslo?"

No, please, just no.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (+oVP5)

348 339 Who's PandemicPee?
Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:16 PM (lwiT4)

Liberal Arts college graduate.

Posted by: tubal at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (bCLt0)

349 I think the 4th turning laid out a pretty good
rationale for explaining things, but yes, it is all much too vague for
concrete predictions. It does provide an explanation for why certain
things keep coming around, like the Puritans following the very
licentiousness Elizabethan period after a few years, much like the
ultra-prudish SJW's rising after the hedonism of the 60's, 70's, and
80's.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2020 06:12 PM (Kpl3J)

The problems with these frameworks - aside from lacking predictive value - is that people use these to impose some sense of order on the events of the day, perhaps to get a needed sense of control of the uncontrollable.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (KnJdm)

350 Who's PandemicPee?
Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:16 PM (lwiT4)

Average Joe.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (y7DUB)

351 Walesa has taken a real hit in Poland--found to be a snitch. But that's just what happens in Police States. Just look at all the masks that have been ripped off here, even this week.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (Ndje9)

352 Nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (Aipu/)

353 330 LOL at FB:
Find your royal name:
(Lord/Lady)
First Name: (your grandparent's first name)
Last Name: (last thing you ate, followed by 'of', followed by the name of the last place you bought something from)

...so I'm Lord Ken Steak of Amazon.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (L2ZTs)

331 Bongino said today something big may

Lord Johanne Trout of Staples

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (x42Y3)

354 162. You sure about that? I bet the SJW crowd dumbs down STEM within 20 years. The degrees will remain more difficult than sociology, but I bet they find magic bias in the required math etc, and start to graduate people without competence in various subjects.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (svbBD)

355 The 2 named poll troll. Bank accounts are running low now that the rioting's over.
They're fond of alliterative name sets, too.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 06:19 PM (7Fj9P)

356 And yet, it didn't motivate her to seek new employment, I'll bet.

As somebody noted earlier, the one thing that a BA is guaranteed to give you these days is a boundless sense of entitlement.

"How dare these peasants make more than I do!"

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:19 PM (I2/tG)

357 Who's PandemicPee?

A Poll Troll. They used to be PandemicPatty but I suppose they just had a sex change operation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2020 06:19 PM (+eVzC)

358 Lord Pork Chop of Meijer

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2020 06:19 PM (aKsyK)

359 I don't get it.

The universe of things you "don't get" is vast, Joe. Make peace with it.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 06:19 PM (xIBU4)

360 Cliodynamics are a process that enables you to locate the G-spot.

Posted by: Fritz at June 08, 2020 06:19 PM (95j/9)

361 not really though. Husbands and wives will still beat and stab each other, child abuse will reach horrific levels.

True, but this is the status quo. Half the time you can't even get a witness to anything that goes down in the hood.

Nuisance crimes, neighbor against neighbor will escalate. And who will you call when the gang-bangers tear up your hood? Will driveby shootings go unreported?

Yes, they do now. Shootings in general often go unreported, which is why technology like Shotspotter exists. They won't rat out the other gang because that would implicate their own. So they plot revenge. Unlucky people are caught in the middle, but they've always been, and Chicago is a good sign of exactly how much the left cares.

They may think this plan will terrorize whitey, but in actuality daily life in the hond will become unspeakably painful.

My point is that it already is, and they don't care. Now just imagine a few thousand weaponized social workers (read: commissars) who want nothing more than to take your kids, and a few dozen heavily armed "neighborhood patrols" (protection rackets).

Imagine a racist, aggressive HOA with weapons, with the power to take your kids.

They're done with the hood. Their goal is to make everyone equally miserable now.

Posted by: grognard at June 08, 2020 06:20 PM (sb+Cg)

362 Lord Paul Cow of Wal Mart

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:20 PM (dNzKv)

363 somebody is concerned

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2020 06:20 PM (zr5Kq)

364 ...so I'm Lord Ken Steak of Amazon.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Lady Mary Almonds of Saks

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 08, 2020 06:21 PM (7bcfy)

365 You sure about that? I bet the SJW crowd dumbs down STEM within 20 years.

You'll have to do something about the Professional Engineer exam.

Yeah, they'll try, but that just means that employers will demand transcripts to see if you took real STEM courses or the fake replacement courses.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:21 PM (I2/tG)

366 There are only four competitive states with Republican Govs who would let him do it...

Michigan would be a great first rally location.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 06:22 PM (xIBU4)

367 So now Trump wants to hold rallies.

There are only four competitive states with Republican Govs who would let him do it...

"Let him?" Does a governor have the final say as to who or who cannot enter his state to speak?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:22 PM (lwiT4)

368 344 >>PandemicPete at June 08, 2020 06:15 PM (1uzX/)

How long do you plan to keep popping in her under different names posting CNN polls that no sane person gives a shit about?

You're wasting your time.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2020 06:17 PM (ZLI7S)

-------

I take delight in realizing that is all they have to live for. Imagine your life turning on polls from CNN.

Snort.

Posted by: MAGA at June 08, 2020 06:22 PM (qClmZ)

369 She was outraged - outraged- that managing a Waffle House paid a lot better than her job.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:12 PM (I2/tG)

My favorite was the stupid bitch at Yelp who wrote an open letter dumping on the CEO, and whining about her pay.

And then being surprised when she was fired within two hours of the letter being published. She must have had an extra brain in her ass to drive her legs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2020 06:22 PM (RFAn/)

370 ...annnd he's off! Yeah, trump should totes STOP those rallies. Why the f^*k would he want to DOMINATE the news cycle. He should mask up and hide in the basement. That's his winning strategy. PeterPuller says so.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 06:22 PM (7Fj9P)

371 Alternatively Lord Heinrich Trout of Hard Knox Brewery

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 08, 2020 06:22 PM (x42Y3)

372 Lord John Sour Cream and Cheddar Potato Chips of Super1 Foods.

Posted by: davidt at June 08, 2020 06:22 PM (l3+k2)

373 HERE IS HOW REAGAN AND TRUMP ARE SIMILAR IN THE MOST IMPORTANT AEGIS OF ALL:

THEY ARE PART OF A DIALECTIC OF AMERICAN HISTORY . EVERY GENERATION OR TWO HAS EXPERIENCED A POPULIST UPRISING WHICH IS ANTI-ELITE, ANTI-STATUS QUO AND THE CENTRALITY OF THE ARGUMENT IS ANTI-CORRUPTION.

IT STARTS WITH THOMAS JEFFERSON IN 1800. JEFFERSON SAID HE REGARDED HIS ELECTION AS THE SECOND REVOLUTION SO HE REVERSES ADAM'S PROGRAMS LIKE THE SEDITION ACT AND CUT TAXES AND CUT THE BURACRACY AND THEN OF COURSE, HE'S FOLLOWED BY JACKSON.

WE'VE ALL GOTTEN A REFRESHER COURSE IN ANDREW JACKSON WITH THE ELECTION OF TRUMP AND WHAT HE MEANS TO AMERICAN POPULISM AND THE BANK OF AMERICA.

Monica Crowley: AND THE ANTI-CORRUPTION MESSAGE "DRAIN THE SWAMP".

Craig Shirley: YES, AND HE WAS ALSO WAS VICTIMIZED BY THE [#FAKENEWS] MEDIA OF THE TIME, WHO WOULD WRITE THE MOST TERRIBLE AND AWFUL PAMPHLETS AND THEY WERE DISSEMINATED WIDELY ATTACKING ANDREW JACKSON, AND THEN OF COURSE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN IS ANTI-STATUS QUO. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS REVOLUTIONARY, ANTI-SLAVERY BY 1860, THAT CONTINUES THAT TRADITIONAL CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN FREMONT PHILOSOPHY OF THE MAXIMUM FREEDOM FOR ALL INDIVUIDUALS.

SO THEN OF COURSE, TEDDY ROOSEVELT RUNNING AGAINST THE CORRUPT TRUSTS, AND FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT IN MANY WAYS IS A POPULIST REFORMER RUNNING AGAINST CORRUPT WALL STREET. AND THEN REAGAN, THEN TRUMP COMES 2O-SOME YEARS LATER. SO THAT'S THE DIALECTIC TO AMERICAN HISTORY.

I AM MAD AT MYSELF FOR THINKING HILLARY WOULD WIN BUT I FAILED MYSELF AS A STUDENT OF HISTORY TO REALIZE THAT THE TRUMP ELECTION WAS NOT FORETOLD OR INEVITABLE, BUT HE HAD A MUCH BETTER CHANCE THAN WE REALIZED, IF ONLY BECAUSE HE FOLLWED THE TRACK OF AMERICAN HISTORY."--Historian Craig Shirley, C-SPAN

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (Ndje9)

374 shouldn't it go and play with its twitter?

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (zr5Kq)

375 Yeah, they'll try, but that just means that
employers will demand transcripts to see if you took real STEM courses
or the fake replacement courses.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:21 PM (I2/tG)

Chem 401: The Intersection of Racial Identify, Ethnicity, and Statistical Thermodymanics.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (KnJdm)

376 I take delight in realizing that is all they have to live for. Imagine your life turning on polls from CNN.

Snort.
Posted by: MAGA at June 08, 2020 06:22 PM (qClmZ)

When you can't get a job as a Hot Beverage Engineer at Starbucks ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (RFAn/)

377 I shit in your wig, Peter Puffer.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (xIBU4)

378 150
I'm kinda curious also.
Has anyone tried the MantisX with a laser cartridge? Good investment.

Posted by: TwentytwoLR at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (mkTbN)

379 That's a lotta caps.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (lwiT4)

380 Love the titles here!
CaliGirl sounds the most regal... :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (L2ZTs)

381 >>Imagine a racist, aggressive HOA with weapons, with the power to take your kids.

They're done with the hood. Their goal is to make everyone equally miserable now.
- - -
The people who want to abolish/defund the police also want open borders, defund/empty prisons, legalize drugs, etc.

Their Social Worker task force, knowing how incapable they are of dealing with stuff like MS-13 gang activities and such, will become incredibly focused on micromanaging the normies. Kinda like what you see in London where the unarmed, super-woke police are too busy arresting people for mean tweets to stop terrorists, random stabbings, and rape gangs.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (bDqIh)

382 attention citizens,
to not playing with troll

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (zr5Kq)

383 384 That's a lotta caps.
Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (lwiT4)

---

Yep.

Posted by: SMH at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (RU4sa)

384 Whitmer won't let it happen.

How many divisions does Jenner have?

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (xIBU4)

385 S&P back where it was, its time for Obama to start claiming credit again. Who's with me!

Posted by: Menack at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (buTO7)

386 Lord Harold Gyro of Speedy Mart? I don't think that works for me.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (Kpl3J)

387 There are only four competitive states with Republican Govs who would let him do it...

Let him do it.

Fucking stop me.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (dNzKv)

388 Evers won't let it happen in WI.

Evers has a plan to close the borders? Rule the sky?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (lwiT4)

389 Chem 401: The Intersection of Racial Identify, Ethnicity, and Statistical Thermodymanics.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (KnJdm)

#PartitionFunctionsMatter!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2020 06:25 PM (RFAn/)

390 @384: "That's a lotta caps."

So many caps, grammie.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 06:25 PM (+oVP5)

391
PollPeet Pounds Penis Perfectly

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2020 06:25 PM (EGyGV)

392 I am holding a protest rally at Staples Center.....

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:25 PM (dNzKv)

393 >>It's a huge freaking deal if he goes from tied to down TEN FREAKING POINTS.

That idiotic poll that has you all excited has a Republican representation of 25% when in 2016 Republicans made up 33% of the electorate.

It is also a poll of all adults not registered voters let alone likely voters. It's like everything else that comes out of CNN, garbage and lies.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2020 06:25 PM (ZLI7S)

394 Chem 401: The Intersection of Racial Identify, Ethnicity, and Statistical Thermodymanics.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian,

I'm surprised that's not a thing, yet.

Anecdotal, niece that was a math major is teaching Calculus at a university and her sister that was an English major is waiting tables.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 08, 2020 06:25 PM (7bcfy)

395 Michigan would be a great first rally location.
====================
I think so. Gretchen wHilter is tired of getting smacked around by Trump, and losing MI Supreme Court decisions 7-0. Hold it across the street from the State House in Lansing.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 06:25 PM (7Fj9P)

396 That idiotic poll that has you all excited has a Republican representation of 25% when in 2016 Republicans made up 33% of the electorate.

It is also a poll of all adults not registered voters let alone likely voters.

You had me at CNN.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 08, 2020 06:27 PM (xIBU4)

397 Lady Mary Taquitos of Yoke's.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2020 06:27 PM (Ez6QX)

398
I am now Lord Salami of FedEx

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2020 06:27 PM (mht8P)

399 Lady Vea Taco of Jackrabbit Liquor

Posted by: Infidel at June 08, 2020 06:27 PM (/oG9s)

400 97, 82 Tried to find the article but apparently it no longer exists -- Article Not Found

Posted by: Mary Wilbur at June 08, 2020 06:27 PM (artIV)

401 Anecdotal, niece that was a math major is
teaching Calculus at a university and her sister that was an English
major is waiting tables.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 08, 2020 06:25 PM (7bcfy)

I had the good fortune of seeing a recent college grad, Psych Major, get a job as a receptionist, mumbledy years ago. This was well before the current glut of "studies" and communications majors.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 06:27 PM (KnJdm)

402 Kinda like what you see in London where the unarmed, super-woke police are too busy arresting people for mean tweets to stop terrorists, random stabbings, and rape gangs.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (bDqIh)

Exactly!

Posted by: grognard at June 08, 2020 06:28 PM (sb+Cg)

403 Under the guise of public safety, yes. Just like the Gov of NC squashed the RNC
Posted by: PandemicPete at June 08, 2020 06:25 PM (1uzX/)

LOL

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 06:28 PM (Ed8Zd)

404 Late to the thread, didn't read the comments but if nobody else has posted this then I am.
Bad times make good men.Good men make good times.Good times make bad men.Bad men make bad times.The way it has always been and always will be.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 08, 2020 06:28 PM (pw+jk)

405 I am now Lord Salami of FedEx
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2020 06:27 PM (mht8P)

Sounds like a medieval porn star.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 08, 2020 06:28 PM (x42Y3)

406 "Clio" was the Muse of history in Greek mythology.

There's a novel, In the Country of the Blind by Michael F. Flynn, that imagines that there is a science similar to psychohistory; it's called "cliology". I didn't actually like the book that much, but I loved the ideas and the backstory. The book imagines a secret society that has cliology and is trying to steer the world to avoid mass disasters; but science is there for anyone to discover, and it turns out there is a second secret society that also has cliology and they are trying to steer the world in the direction they want (and they are not as nice as the the first society). And in fact there is a third secret society with cliology, but they aren't trying to steer anything, they are just making hugely profitable investments in the stock market because they have a better idea than other investors what is coming.

One of the most memorable parts in the book for me was in the 1800's some people looking at a graph they had plotted and seeing World War II in the graph and wondering just what could cause such upheaval. Somehow their equations predicted the atomic bomb (they didn't know what it would be, just that around the mid- 1940's an "ultimate weapon" would be developed).

[url=https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/416325.In_the_Country_of_the_Blind]GoodReads discussion of the book[/url]

P.S. I don't know how to do the markup on AoSHQ so here's the URL without markup in case the above didn't work:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/416325.In_the_Country_of_the_Blind

Posted by: mr_jack at June 08, 2020 06:28 PM (M59SC)

407 So no one cares about Kondratiev wave theory? Screw you! Screw you all! I will keel you all and sleep like a baby that very night!

Posted by: Regular joe stalin at June 08, 2020 06:28 PM (qYOp2)

408 You sure about that? I bet the SJW crowd dumbs down STEM within 20 years.

You'll have to do something about the Professional Engineer exam.

Yeah, they'll try, but that just means that employers will demand transcripts to see if you took real STEM courses or the fake replacement courses.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:21 PM (I2/tG)

Yep. The camel's nose in the tent is "environmental science," which all too often is communist crap about global warming, without a scintilla of science involved. No mention of carbon, nitrogen, etc. cycles, just glorifying eco-nuts "fighting for Gaia."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2020 06:29 PM (RFAn/)

409 Kinda like what you see in London where the
unarmed, super-woke police are too busy arresting people for mean tweets
to stop terrorists, random stabbings, and rape gangs.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (bDqIh)

+++++And tire harnesses put on for parking offenses, and fines for not putting your garbage bins in the exact spot allowed. We are almost there.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 08, 2020 06:29 PM (UAOfD)

410 383 150
I'm kinda curious also.
Has anyone tried the MantisX with a laser cartridge? Good investment.
Posted by: TwentytwoLR at June 08, 2020 06:23 PM (mkTbN)

I got it for birthday last year.

It's good for dry fire doesn't always 'hear' the shots on the range, so the games don't always work.

But....frankly, a quarter on the slide does as much good, dry fire-wise.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 08, 2020 06:29 PM (d1uFV)

411 f'ing margin blowers

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2020 06:29 PM (zr5Kq)

412 Yeah ace, about that last thread. The speedway people should have protested quiet mufflers, specific decibel noise ordinances and highway speed limits.

There are no rules about what must be protested. If you are going to stick to the man, stick it to the man.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (Bwqq4)

413 Evers has a plan to close the borders? Rule the sky?

After allowing mass BLM rallies, good luck explaining that Trump rallies are forbidden.

Trump may have to hold them outdoors, to get around the claim that outdoor rallies are acceptable, but indoor rallies aren't.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (I2/tG)

414 >>> (Lord/Lady)
First Name: (your grandparent's first name)
Last Name: (last thing you ate, followed by 'of', followed by the name of the last place you bought something from)

...so I'm Lord Ken Steak of Amazon.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (L2ZTs)

Hmm, not a fan of this game.

Posted by: Lord Delos Cheeseburger of Dicks at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (zG0JF)

415 And with that margin-blowing monstrosity, I am going home.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (Ez6QX)

416 Love the titles here!
CaliGirl sounds the most regal... :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (L2ZTs

No surprise, I read that as titties.

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (Ed8Zd)

417 Lady Vea Taco of Jackrabbit Liquor
Posted by: Infidel at June 08, 2020 06:27 PM (

That made me laugh

I hope someone shops at beaver liquors in Colorado

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (7bcfy)

418 PeterPuller is pretty proud plandemic prevents Trump. Poor PeterPuller. Trump Trumps Govs.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (7Fj9P)

419 Gonna kinda meh on a lot of this.

Tibor Scitovsky, economist, had an economic-centric similar argument in The Joyless Economy, which was a thing in the late 70s. Didn't really work out like that, at all. Too few jobs for too many people of certain castes, that is.

And most of journalism was hardly well-paying 40 years ago, and neither was academia, overall. It was in the 70s where academia started its explosion in terms of compensation. Grew up around some pre-1990s academics, and spent some limited time with some much more recently (they're long retired) - they cannot believe the pay/benefits today. As important, they cannot believe the substantive collapse and politicization.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (El6T/)

420 +++++And tire harnesses put on for parking offenses, and fines for not putting your garbage bins in the exact spot allowed. We are almost there.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 08, 2020 06:29 PM (UAOfD)

Ooh that reminds me. I have a parking ticket to pay.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (x42Y3)

421 386---.....Their Social Worker task force, knowing how incapable they are of dealing with stuff like MS-13 gang activities and such, will become incredibly focused on micromanaging the normies. Kinda like what you see in London where the unarmed, super-woke police are too busy arresting people for mean tweets to stop terrorists, random stabbings, and rape gangs.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2020 06:24 PM (bDqIh)
----------------------------------
Exactly. That's it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 08, 2020 06:31 PM (M/9m0)

422 368. I have little to no faith at all in our institutions any more. We are overrun with communists.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at June 08, 2020 06:31 PM (svbBD)

423
Her Majesty has an accounting degree she's never used but she's an admin for the Executive Leadership Team at a major downstream oil company. She gets paid well because she saves those guys a lot of time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2020 06:31 PM (mht8P)

424 Shaun King tells his large following of idiots that the Latino iron worker who shot a protester in Seattle for peacefully trying to smash his head in is a "known white supremacist."

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yaammlkn

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2020 06:31 PM (UW2ZS)

425 Posted by: mr_jack at June 08, 2020 06:28 PM (M59SC)

Buying it, thanks for the rec

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 08, 2020 06:32 PM (d1uFV)

426 Please don't fall for this bull shit. It's an old game. Metahistorians (and metahistory is what this is) ALWAYS, when looked at closely, turn out to be cherry-picking, or as they say, "lumping". They tie disparate phenomena up into what look like tidy bundles. Then, later, others do commit the crime of looking closely*.

And what you will find is that they are looking for evidence to support their thesis, but not for counter-evidence. See J H Hexter's "The Historical Method of Christopher Hill" for a good illustration. And note, Hexter was an early advocate of data-analysis in history, gong back to the 50s, long before "cliodynamics" was a gleam in Turchin's eye.

I did look at him in the earlier NRO article, before the 2016 one. (Can't look at that because it's paywalled.) And yes, it was the usual shell game. Note that, for America, 2020 is not a century, also that a century is really too long for the explanatory model; 3 generations would be more like 75 years, at most.

He just got lucky.

Please, please, please do not fall for every plausible huckster who seems to support your preconceived ideas.

*One paradigm is C S Lewis's "The New Learning and the New Ignorance." Much Hexter's work is built around that.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 08, 2020 06:32 PM (ZbwAu)

427 406 97, 82 Tried to find the article but apparently it no longer exists -- Article Not Found
Posted by: Mary Wilbur at June 08, 2020 06:27 PM (artIV)

this should do it for you:

https://tinyurl.com/yc2pjurd

"Antifa Rioters are the Tech Economies College Discards"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 08, 2020 06:32 PM (Kpl3J)

428 First Name: (your grandparent's first name)

Last Name: (last thing you ate, followed by 'of', followed by the name of the last place you bought something from)

...so I'm Lord Ken Steak of Amazon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (L2ZTs)

++++
Ora Orange of Shell.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 08, 2020 06:32 PM (UAOfD)

429 Some of us 29 somethings remember when going to college wasn't
something everybody did. And, quite often, we worked our way
through paying semester by semester. If that meant we had to go to a
community college or local state college, that's what happened. And, we
only went if we needed a piece of paper for a particular vocation.

Too
many kids go to college having zero idea what they want to do. Of
course, making matters worse are courses that have nothing to do with
reality, unless your reality is going to be "lifetime student", which
all too many are. So, they're paying off a useless degree throughout
their 20's and even 30's, and have a job that's got nothing to do with
what they went to college for?

Gee, who's
to blame for that? I certainly do hope that this whole college via zoom
during the plandemic has guaranteed the fall of these institutions.
Sadly, it's the ones that really need to go that will stay afloat. But
maybe, just maybe there will be an increase in trade schools teaching
actual vocations.

Posted by: clutch cargo at June 08, 2020 06:32 PM (8B6Ng)

430 Literally too good to check, plus lazy, plus probably willow territory.

Protest! in Little Saigon, Westminster up in Orange County.

Protest!

Agenda?

LET US GO BACK TO WORK! (I think mostly salons/personal services types)

Let's just soak that in. Don't think I have to make the obvious, spectacular, invidious comparisons.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2020 06:32 PM (El6T/)

431 420
>>> (Lord/Lady)

First Name: (your grandparent's first name)

Last Name: (last thing you ate, followed by 'of', followed by the name of the last place you bought something from)

...so I'm Lord Ken Steak of Amazon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (L2ZTs)

Hmm, not a fan of this game.

Posted by: Lord Delos Cheeseburger of Dicks at June 08, 2020 06:30 PM (zG0JF)

OK, somebody own up to Lady Dick Pussy of Crack Dealer on 1st.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 06:32 PM (KnJdm)

432 (1uzX/)

No one here cares. I mean, we really really do no care. We do not. Care.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:32 PM (lwiT4)

433 Shaun King tells his large following of idiots that the Latino iron worker who shot a protester in Seattle for peacefully trying to smash his head in is a "known white supremacist."

Is there an official list?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 08, 2020 06:33 PM (x42Y3)

434 I had Chicken A la King for supper. I guess that makes me...a King? Or a chicken? Hard to decipher

Posted by: Pete Seria at June 08, 2020 06:33 PM (7ZQe3)

435 You sure about that? I bet the SJW crowd dumbs down STEM within 20 years. The degrees will remain more difficult than sociology, but I bet they find magic bias in the required math etc, and start to graduate people without competence in various subjects.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (svbBD)
------------------------

There IS a movement to turn Stem into Steam.

The "A" is for Art.

And no I'm not kidding.

Posted by: Boots at June 08, 2020 06:33 PM (oGBso)

436 Whitmer won't let it happen.

Evers won't let it happen in WI.

Can't happen in PA, either, with Wolf
=============

Screw that ...trump can hold the rally on military base. Gov can't say jack about that.

Posted by: Pliney at June 08, 2020 06:33 PM (nzKWW)

437 If Vic can use tinyurl, everyone can.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 08, 2020 06:33 PM (y7DUB)

438
Trump down 63.5/10th percent with people who think he's morbidly obese

Trump down 26.2 percent with people who think he's too fat to take a knee.

Trump down 33.3 % with people hate his boring tie selections

BIDEN WINS!! YAY!

Posted by: Partisan Polling Predicts at June 08, 2020 06:33 PM (+eVzC)

439 I am out !

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2020 06:34 PM (zr5Kq)

440 Oh yeah, I was at Piggly Wiggly last.

Posted by: Pete Seria at June 08, 2020 06:34 PM (7ZQe3)

441 440
Shaun King tells his large following of idiots that the Latino iron
worker who shot a protester in Seattle for peacefully trying to smash
his head in is a "known white supremacist."

Is there an official list?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 08, 2020 06:33 PM (x42Y3)

Well, he is a known white guy masquerading as a black racial grievance monger, so stranger things have happened.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 08, 2020 06:34 PM (KnJdm)

442 Great. Woke Looney Tunes.

You just can't do that show in any way that can do justice to the original. Why do they have to fuck that up.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:34 PM (dNzKv)

443 You sure about that? I bet the SJW crowd dumbs
down STEM within 20 years. The degrees will remain more difficult than
sociology, but I bet they find magic bias in the required math etc, and
start to graduate people without competence in various subjects.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at June 08, 2020 06:18 PM (svbBD)

====
My college graduated more environmental engineers than mechanical, electrical, and chemistry combined in 2005.
That college was the number 4 highest rated in the USA.

So the SJWs have already done it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 08, 2020 06:35 PM (pw+jk)

444 Lord Lonnie Twinkie of Haggens.

This game sucks.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2020 06:35 PM (axyOa)

445 so basically today's young people are pissed that their degree in Ancient Phoenician Philosophy or Lesbian Basket Weaving didn't lead to a cushy job, so they're going to get even with Society by breaking windows...

did I get that right?

Posted by: DB- just DB. at June 08, 2020 06:35 PM (iTXRQ)

446 Screw that ...trump can hold the rally on military base. Gov can't say jack about that.

Posted by: Pliney at June 08, 2020 06:33 PM (nzKWW)

He can hold one at Ft. McCoy, then afterwards everyone can go to the waterpark at Wisconsin Dells.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 08, 2020 06:36 PM (lwiT4)

447 Too many kids go to college having zero idea what they want to do. Of course, making matters worse are courses that have nothing to do with reality, unless your reality is going to be "lifetime student", which all too many are.

All too many grad students in the arts end up being "grad student emeritus."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2020 06:36 PM (RFAn/)

448 Maybe Trump should focus on swing states with friendly county sheriffs that will tell Whitmer/Evers etc to go pound sand.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at June 08, 2020 06:36 PM (svbBD)

449 Lord Cletus Spam of Aldi, reporting for duty.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 08, 2020 06:36 PM (7Fj9P)

450 First Name: (your grandparent's first name)
Last Name: (last thing you ate, followed by 'of', followed by the name of the last place you bought something from)

...so I'm Lord Ken Steak of Amazon.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 08, 2020 06:14 PM (L2ZTs)

Lady Mary Blueberry of William-Sonoma.

Posted by: LASue at June 08, 2020 06:37 PM (Ed8Zd)

451 (Nood.)

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2020 06:37 PM (+oVP5)

452 cademia, overall. It was in the 70s where academia started its explosion in terms of compensation. Grew up around some pre-1990s academics, and spent some limited time with some much more recently (they're long retired) - they cannot believe the pay/benefits today.

Education has moved to a caste system - you used to have assistant professors, who were poorly paid, tenured professors, who were decently paid, and administrators, who were poorly paid in exchange for being able to work in an academic environment.

Now, at most schools, you have spectacularly well-paid administrators, very well paid tenured faculty, and an underclass of adjunct professors who are terribly paid.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 08, 2020 06:37 PM (I2/tG)

453 452 so basically today's young people are pissed that their degree in Ancient Phoenician Philosophy or Lesbian Basket Weaving didn't lead to a cushy job, so they're going to get even with Society by breaking windows...

did I get that right?
Posted by: DB- just DB. at June 08, 2020 06:35 PM (iTXRQ)

Yes. Exactly right.

"I'm a college graduate, and can only get a job making lattes! Society has cheated me!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2020 06:37 PM (RFAn/)

454 fresh content, y'all

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at June 08, 2020 06:38 PM (xptlg)

455 the baader were university students triggered by the student unrest in germany, whch was provoked largely by the shooting by a stasi infiltrator in the police, they struck a number of prominent targets, like banker jurgen ponto, but they hit the jackpot with hans schleyer, a director of bmw who had been in the waffen ss, 30 years before, that was their antifascist twist, they were also trained in east germany, not long after that, there was the luftansa flight to entebbe, where they paired up the pflp, who were largely kgb conttolled that ended with the raid on entebbe that claimed bib's brother

similarly you have the brigatte who were rrom regio emilia
the hardest hit area of the wuflu, major industrial and agricultural hub, they were trained in czechoslovakia, their cause celebre was an bombing in Piazza Fontana in 1969, it turns out it was a neonazi outfit responsible, they were also student radical,s their biggest hit was the kidnap and murder of aldo moro, who was the prime minister who wanted to bring the communists into government, they weren't terribly logical

Posted by: gaius martius at June 08, 2020 06:38 PM (hMlTh)

456 >>>You just can't do that show in any way that can do justice to the original. Why do they have to fuck that up.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 08, 2020 06:34 PM (dNzKv)

I had no idea they were still making these. As if they could even come close to the originals?

Posted by: goin' yard at June 08, 2020 06:38 PM (zG0JF)

457 Can't tell if that academic caste system comment is made in jest.

Because that is EXACTLY what exists in academia, with graduate students being at the very bottom tier, then professors who will never reach tenure. Dozens of graduate students/teaching assistants working for very little pay and competing for a tiny number of job openings.

Posted by: Matt at June 08, 2020 06:40 PM (ft1QJ)

458 talcum x lol,

Posted by: gaius martius at June 08, 2020 06:41 PM (hMlTh)

459
OAN Nunes is saying criminal referrals coming in couple of weeks on the conspirators

Same ol' same ol'?

Posted by: Grannymimi at June 08, 2020 06:42 PM (u5LFV)

460 Ah. I remember "Defund the Police". It was a lesser known b-side from N.W.A.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 08, 2020 06:42 PM (iWCRg)

461 454 "Too many kids..."

That entire comment is exactly what we were saying in the 70's as my class left college.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 08, 2020 06:44 PM (Bwqq4)

462

Free on-line learning?

Khan Academy is one of many great sources.

I predict that with this school year of Zooming, a lot of parents are going to look hard at paying another few years of insane tuition costs and balk at it.

I am going to enjoy the upcoming collapse of higher education with glee. Many who work there have been a root cause of this chaotic nonsense. Hope they get it good and hard.

They had one job, to teach the truth, and instead didn't.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 08, 2020 06:45 PM (sy5kK)

463 Love the titles here!

CaliGirl sounds the most regal... :-)
Up against "Lord Ed Hamsandwich of CircleK" she's a guaranteed winner.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - fighting with a dying hard drive at June 08, 2020 06:45 PM (SchxB)

464 I thought Baader-Meinhof was a German gang wiped out in the sixties.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 08, 2020 06:45 PM (2ShTI)

465 Vashta Nerada at June 08, 2020 05:40 PM (kA3Cp)

All-out un-civil war?

Posted by: Grannymimi at June 08, 2020 06:49 PM (u5LFV)

466 There IS a movement to turn Stem into Steam.

The "A" is for Art.

And no I'm not kidding.

Posted by: Boots at June 08, 2020 06:33 PM

STEAM is already a thing at my company, of which 100% of you have heard of.

Posted by: clutch at June 08, 2020 06:49 PM (9UmRs)

467 Passed a church school today, big banner
Open Enrollment For Next Semester.

Baader-Meinhof, whelp that's two times today.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 08, 2020 06:50 PM (2ShTI)

468 I have a useless BA degree. In the 90s I was told you have to have a degree, any degree, to succeed.

I never had a job that paid 21,000 dollars a year or more. I am 165,000 dollars in debt. And I haven't been able to find any job since 2013. There are millions like this.

Now what keeps me from rioting? My Christian values. Like it or not, if you don't have Judeo Christian values, if you aren't raised with them (and ho boy, look at how blacks are raised by the government) or if you think you're too good for them, too smart, you into slaves of passion. Of rage,

Posted by: Mike at June 08, 2020 06:52 PM (MOTel)

469 WTF is Bret Baier apologizing for? He said they aired something about how the market reacted to civil unrest in past instances and that was insensitive.
Historical perspective is "insensitive"? I'll tell you how insensitive I am...the truth hurts, suck it bitches!

Posted by: Farmer at June 08, 2020 06:52 PM (rkkWf)

470 I saw a YouTube video that made the case that Antifa et. al. don't really care about the riots right now; these riots were intended as a "dress rehearsal" for the real riots they are planning for this fall.

I won't link the video because I'm not sure he proved his case and it's long and meandering. But I think it's a good idea to assume that as soon as Trump crushes Biden in the election, massive riots will "spontaneously" break out in big Democrat cities. Especially if Biden wins the popular vote thanks to massive election fraud in places like California.

Basically the idea is that Antifa doesn't care what the results of the riots are now, they were just getting practice now and seeing what works. This fall the "riots" will actually be the opening battle in an undeclared armed insurrection to finally overthrow the government and install a paradise on Earth, i.e. a Socialist government with an iron grip. If this theory is correct, the current riots were just Antifa doing minimum effort but after Trump wins they will go 100%.

While we are having depressing thoughts, Scott Adams is predicting a second wave of riots. Because George Floyd had drugs in his system (fentanyl and meth), and it's almost certain that the drugs were a major contributing factor in his death, it's unlikely that the officer who kneeled on George Floyd's neck will be ruled guilty of manslaughter, and impossible that he will be ruled guilty of premeditated murder. The left is demanding that this officer be charged with premeditated murder; if this happens it is certain he will be ruled Not Guilty, and that's when we will get more riots.

Posted by: mr_jack at June 08, 2020 07:00 PM (M59SC)

471
Lord Walter Pork Rind of Dollar Tree

I demand a do-over

Posted by: AltonJackson
No Peace, No Justice
at June 08, 2020 07:03 PM (lT7Gt)

472 Now there's a glut of teachers.
pseudo-teachers

Posted by: Grannymimi at June 08, 2020 07:05 PM (u5LFV)

473 In New Orleans, Clio (Street) is pronounced *See-El-Ten*
Ah, musings in the Big Easy

Posted by: stumck at June 08, 2020 07:12 PM (uksaT)

474 "324 309 Bongino said today something big may happen between the NYPD and the Mayor in the next few days.........
=======

Whatever happened to Cuomo pulling the plug on the mayor and sending him into exile?"

Cuomo decided there is more profit in taking a knee.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 08, 2020 07:12 PM (puu6v)

475 I disagree with the premise that the gender-studies grads are getting replaced by H1-B visa employees. Nobody *needs* gender-studies grads. Foreign gender-studies grads are not getting H1-B visas.

Vote for me for Supreme Overlord! I will abolish the current student loan program for $anything, and instead institute a national competition for a select number of careers that are actually needed in the country. Earn a degree in that major (hint: they will tend to be things like actual science, engineering, medical technology) or no loan for you. Similar program for *useful* trade schools like plumbing, electrical work, etc. Applications can be made to add a major/trade if it can be proven to a) have open, paying job reqs. and b) contribute $x to the economy. Furthermore, for those majors that don't contribute anything, institutions of higher learning will be required to provide actual data about hiring percentages and average income every year, and the student will be required to sign with a witness to continue in that major.

Furthermore, I will torment Congress until it passes a law that permits testing for jobs again, which is what got us in this stupid "any college degree is a golden ticket" cargo cult. If companies are allowed to test applicants they won't require a college diploma to prove the applicant can come in out of the rain 2 out of 3 times. /end rant/

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 08, 2020 07:14 PM (exg7Q)

476 Sabrina Chase

You have my five votes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 08, 2020 07:16 PM (u82oZ)

477 16 Eh, not buying it.
Posted by: Hari Seldon at June 08, 2020 05:26 PM (eVhWu)

Great one!

Funny, I remember a politician that sought to model himself on Seldon, at least in public.

Obama wasn't even close.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2020 07:35 PM (MRt+R)

478 The left is demanding that this officer be charged
with premeditated murder; if this happens it is certain he will be ruled
Not Guilty, and that's when we will get more riots.

Posted by: mr_jack at June 08, 2020 07:00 PM (M59SC)

If they want that, they better work toward proving that:
A) Floyd's and Chauvin's pre-existing relationship was the reason Chauvin killed him and

B) That Chauvin had ordered someone (his fellow officer and brother in law for instance), to hold Floyd until he got there so that he could make him disappear.

Thing is, the scenario above is not out of the realm of possibility. Floyd apparently did not start passively resisting until Chauvin showed up and the arresting officer (who I think was Chauvin's brother in law) tried to get him into Chauvin's car. But you have to prove it.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 08, 2020 07:50 PM (nAiE/)

479 Taken from The Fourth Turning book -- about a decade or so? Round about the same time this person was doing his own prediction? I dunno, but I'm sure lots of other commenters will know, too...

Posted by: taxpayer at June 08, 2020 08:08 PM (nxWPB)

480 Where is Hari Seldon when you need him?

Posted by: Beverly at June 08, 2020 08:39 PM (+0Ebw)

481 Ran across Strauss and Howe's "Generations" about three or four years ago. I give them credit - the predicted the flavor and character of the current mode perfectly.

We've dealt with Covid and these riots just like a 4th Turning.
And, when I read it Foundation and Salvor Hardin came immediately to mind.

Posted by: Hari Seldon at June 08, 2020 10:17 PM (Sqrkf)

482 I don't know if it's true that the academy has seen wages fall. I'm quite sure that's not true unless there's a caste system in the academy in which most workers are kept from full-time positions and are paid menial wages while a select few (including all the administrators, of course) make hundreds of thousands per year.

This is precisely the case. If you're a tenured full professor, you're set (for now). But increasing numbers of courses are taught by adjuncts, part-time serfs. Add to that fact that overproduction of PhDs in the non-STEM colleges has produced a feeding frenzy for the few entry tenure track openings available.

Posted by: Criticas at June 09, 2020 07:21 AM (u8T5m)

483 "In the Country of the Blind", Michael Flynn

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